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Welcome to the daily wrap up.
Tuesday, 07/15/2025.
Thank you for joining me today. So I
had this day all planned out. I was
ready. I had a lining up everything for
the daily wrap up, which I was plenty
of things to talk about today. And because
I'm just somehow incapable of keeping my calendar
in order, I I, yet again, made a
mistake in regard to the day I was
gonna have Charlie on to talk about talk
about what the hell is going on in
the world. And, of course, I've been looking
forward to this as always because I really
enjoy our back and forth. So I kinda
merged them together today. So we're gonna get
into off the kind of off the bat,
like, something he may think is important, what
he sees going on in the world, and
we're gonna kinda go over some of the
different things I had lined up, and then
we'll just have a good conversation about it
today. So as always, Charlie, I'm looking forward
to it. How are you, my friend?
I'm I'm good. I'm I'm
our schedules are a are a fluid thing,
much like the gender of some of the
listeners, unfortunately.
So
we Well, thank you. Gotta do what we
gotta do. I I'm I'm glad you had
me on. There's so much happening here, like,
these days. It feels like every day it's
like the remember the movie The Jerk? There's
a scene in there. Like, first day felt
like eight days, and then the second day
felt like that's every day is it's like
Groundhog Day. And and it seems like, you
know, where we were a week ago is
almost irrelevant
to compared to where we are today. So
I'm glad I'm glad we were able to
coordinate and and get to the bottom of
things. And by design, clearly. I mean, not
literally everything. I mean, it's certainly possible, but,
the the way this is kinda constructed is
just, you know, you're just getting berated. You
you you can't possibly focus on all the
different things that they're jamming in front of
you, and it just people tend to check
out. And I get it. You know? You
don't you you don't especially when it's almost
like you're it's kind of slave,
flavored with,
like, the obviousness of how it's being used
to manipulate you, if that makes sense. Like,
so it's like you you know, but see,
just get go, okay. I'm not even gonna
look. Like, I'm tired of being manipulated. And
I think the Epstein thing is kind of
a good example of that right now, which
we're definitely gonna get into today.
But, I wanted as we did last time
and that again, to the point if that's
kind of the title of the work, you
know, we're gonna continue to connect and talk
about just what the hell is going on
and the ideas like that. Just trying to
make sense of the chaos of the new
cycle. But let's start with whatever is on
your mind right now, you know, of the
last I mean, I look back actually. I'm
surprised. We didn't we didn't the last one
we did, I think, was on I don't
think we did it last month, did we?
And I've I've planned to do every month.
They're just the same point. There's so much
going on. I didn't think about it. So
over the last month and a half plus,
you know, what is on your mind? What's
pressing today? What do you wanna get into
first?
Well, I'm I'm
you know, there's part of me that's that's
glad
that
the that the the MAGA right
attached themselves
so so tightly to Trump and under the
guise of of he's going to expose the
Epstein files. And and then it comes out,
and then he doesn't. And I'm glad that
that's happening. I'm glad that the that his
base is getting a taste of what the
rest of us have have been witnessing for
a long, long time, which is he'll say
one thing and do another.
So it's and and that's frustrating
in in general, but it's especially annoying when
it comes to things as
as important as getting to the bottom of
child sexual exploitation
by the people that he works with or
the people who work
for him in some respects. And so
you could be willing to maybe excuse
some of Trump's behavior and just call it
politics. Right? And I think maybe a segment
of his his base is
is kind of, you know, willing to accept
that it might not go exactly according to
plan.
But when you turn your back on exposing
what's going on to children,
then you lose,
a certain segment of of of the base.
And I'm glad that this is happening. Welcome
to the party. What took you so long?
I mean, I I I suppose you get
points for for waking up to it, but
this is how Donald Trump has behaved his
entire life.
And and it's important now that, you know,
whatever gets you to the party, I'm glad
you're here.
But this guy can't be trusted. Oh, and
here's just the most current example of why
he can't be trusted, and it has to
do with something extremely important, and that is,
the Jeffrey Epstein file. Now I know that
that
in our world of,
we weren't really sitting around waiting for a
file. I'd never thought I was gonna get
an Excel spreadsheet with an itemized list of
all the people that were there according to
I I mean,
as far as I'm concerned, these lists exist
in a in sort of a haphazard way
in in books and articles and podcasts that
we've been doing over the last, you know,
ten years or so.
So I'm,
I guess,
I'm happy that people are
frustrated
with Trump Mhmm.
Because
for so long, there's been a segment that's
just willing to excuse all this. And it
seems that we finally found
a line in the sand for some people,
and that is when you, are dismissive about
what's happening to children. And and so
I'm
I'm I'm glad we're talking about it. There's
so
more about Epstein to talk about than just
this. But for what it's worth, I'm glad
that this is the, entry point into the
conversation.
Definitely. And and what's interesting is the the
you know, this is why I can't help
but go back to, like, how these people
people they're committing political suicide, career suicide. Like,
what they're doing to a massive part of
the base, they they just can't understand. Why
would they do this? And that's why my
mind goes to well, there's plenty of things
you could fill in to make that make
sense. And one of them is obviously from
some kind of outside influence. Maybe they're black
men, but the pressure, you know, we can't
assume any of that. But when you look
at all of this, but what I was
getting to is why they would choose to
maybe this wasn't, like, by design, but this
would be rolled out in the way it
was a lot when when the the Republicans
are the ones that would be kind of
stuck with it, when they're the ones that
have been more than anybody and rightly so
in many ways, calling out the issue of
pedophilia, the issue of the overlap with politics.
And then this is I mean, that that
to me is clumsy. I mean, there's no
way you can think that was mapped out
that way unless they're just I mean, unless
it's for some larger thing that we're not
seeing yet. You know? And so it's just
interesting to point that out that of all
the people. And then that's actually why I
use the picture I did today too, that
it's interesting
even before all this that with, like, with
Diddy
and how he owned part of Twitter. And
that never really became a story despite the
fact that if it was anybody on the
other side, you know, you know the same
thing. It's just interesting. Right? And so I'm
with you on this. I think that it's
an important moment to see how many people
are just like, you know and I I
don't think that it was that they were
this entire time completely devoid of concern. That
they've always been like, damn it. This is
crazy. MRNA shots are bad, but come all
was worse. Right? Or whatever in their mind.
Right. Now this is the step too far.
And so that's this is the line we're
seeing for this. Okay. I can't let this
be the case. This is too much for
me. And and it's I mean, do what
what to what degree do you think that's
happening? Because everyone's kind of
it's hard to really read it. That is
it do you think this is like a
breaking of this movement, or do you think
there's just a part of it breaking off?
How do you read it?
Well, it I always go back to this
very bizarre,
television interview I saw on C SPAN with
Tom DeLay, the former house
minority leader, I think,
back in 2015, and and then he did
it again in 2016.
And he said, I just got out of
a meeting at the justice with the justice
department
talking about how they're gonna normalize 12 perversions,
including bestiality and pedophilia.
And and and the interviewer is going, I'm
sorry. What? You said he said, yeah. I
was in this meeting. They talked about how
they're gonna roll it out. Now
when you hear that in 2015, you go,
oh, get out of here. You know? Like,
maybe, maybe not. Right? But fast forward a
decade. And now take a look back and
and and look at what Tom DeLay was
talking about. And understand that he didn't say
I had this meeting with some
guy in some committee. He said the justice
department.
So when the justice department is in charge
of normalizing
12 perversions, including pedophilia,
then we've got a problem that goes beyond
red team, blue team. We have a a
deep state that is
infested with pedophiles.
And, of course,
it's not a surprise to us. You want
to control people.
That's the best way to have never ending
control over them. I mean, it's one thing
to catch a guy who's cheating on his
wife or is a closeted homosexual, and you
can get the goods on him for only
so long, right, before he gets a divorce
or comes out of the closet, and then
then then that's that's it.
But there's no expiration date on the on
the sexual abuse of children. This is a
a card you can play forever. And so
it's it's and and and listening to Tom
DeLay talk about this, and he was kind
of throwing his hands up. He did it
in two different occasions. I watched two different
interviews with him talking about it. So it
wasn't anything that he was clearly been out
of shape about this, and I think rightly
so.
But when
when you when you understand that,
the idea that
Trump's gonna get to the bottom of the
Epstein files, the red team is gonna do
or maybe the red team isn't gonna do
it. Oh, that's terrible. They're all a bunch
of pedos. He's like, woah. Woah. Woah. Woah.
Hang on a sec. It's both teams, and
it is the common thread
that runs through
the control structure and in inside of politics.
And and you may be a bad guy
who's got the they've got the goods on
you, or you may be a good guy
who would love to blow the whistle,
but you can't because you saw what happened
to Madison Cawthorn or you saw what happened
to any host of people who've come forward
and said, you know, these parties we go
to are crazy at night. And then next
thing you know, you're primaried or you're thrown
off a boat somewhere or or whatever.
So it it's been
a component that runs through American well, international
politics really, but America specific since we're talking
about it. This this
blackmail entrapment operations. Mhmm. And and Epstein is
now the the retail face of it, but
it's been happening for so long that it's
become, in fact, normalized
by these people. They they get into this,
and then you you, you come out of
politics and they they say, what was that
like? And you go, it's it's it's dirtier
than you can possibly imagine, and then they
leave it at that. And and this is
what we're talking about. You wanna control somebody?
You get them to vote your way one
way or another on some some bill that
you're proposing. Well, the best way to do
that is to make sure that you've got,
never ending
set of blackmail files without an expiration date,
and then you use that to just
to legislate that that way instead. And and,
clearly, there's one obvious culprit out there that
is well, well known for its sexual blackmail
and and all sorts of blackmail. And it's
kind of the point that I'm getting at,
and we'll talk about this in a second,
actually, just to start this category off. This
this is right to me when you brought
it up. This is it's this is the
point of Israel and the overlap of this
conversation, it's not hypothetical. There you can see
many reports over the years saying it's become
a safe haven for pedophiles. You can see
the reports of the IDF where I think
it was 2017, they said one in six
girls in women in the IDF are being
abused, and then he jumped to twenty twenty
and it's now one in three. You know,
it's like, there's a very obvious problem going
on. This is brand new. I just covered
this. It gets very little attention. Survivors testify.
Members of Knesset participated in sadistic,
sexual rituals involving minors. And this is this
is large. There there were members of Knesset
that stood up and called this a watershed
moment. They had many people testifying. You know,
she it's a it's a very big problem.
And it's not just Israel, but I think
it's worth noting the obvious
infiltration,
you know, what we're seeing in the world
today. But before we get into all that,
the point with Tucker and and Segar, I
think is how you say his name, right,
from, breaking points. That point that he made,
which I you know, I'm glad the point
is getting a lot of reach. I just,
it's always so frustrating for the, you know,
the people that I don't think are
I mean, I guess, it's not even relevant
to bring it out every time, but just
the Johnny come lately point to where people
are sort of, like, into this at the
last moment when it's already become you know,
and then then that that kind of guides
into the next manipulation.
I I hope they're honest, Tucker included. I
just question it. But the point of they're
signaling
to those people that we have your back,
essentially, to kind of paraphrase it. Right? Did
you see that point? Yep.
No. I didn't see that point, but I
know what you're talking about with regard to
the timing of it. It's it's it's,
you know, when in retrospect,
people will ask the question, were you covering
this? And the answer will be, yes. I
was covering it. And then the follow-up question
has to be, when were you covering it?
If you're Tucker Carlson and you're covering vaccines
in 2025,
I'm not impressed. If you're covering it in
2021,
now we're talking. Right? So so when when
are when were we talking about the Epstein
situation? When it was front page news or
in some somebody who who parachutes into the
conversation at the last minute and and and
wants to get into the you know, I
I know about
the Epstein. Well, where were you when it
was,
you know, as Sam Tripley calls it, they're
safe dangerous and then there's dangerous dangerous. Right?
When were where were you when it was
dangerous dangerous to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and
to do all of this? And I know
it's not necessarily a contest to see who
is here first. And then it's but I
think it see it. But if that's true.
It it it but it it it it
plays into
it takes a while to really understand
the depths of this
network. And if you're just figuring out about
Jeffrey Epstein now,
good. I'm glad. I mean, I'm glad you're
I'm glad you're at the party now and
you're understanding that there are control
structures set up like this. And once you
understand, you know, get a good grip on
Epstein, then just expand that out and find
you know, and realize that that it's happening
a a variety of places.
But you need to that need that information
needs to percolate for a while, you know,
for you to to understand the connections and
where this comes from and how long it's
been going on and where the players really
go. That's why I owe
I I, you know, I sort of half
jokingly say, like, if you want the Epstein
list,
go read Whitney's one nation under blackmail volume
two. And if you do that, it's not
a list per se, but it's an it's
an explanation of the organizational
structure surrounding that that system. And you can
say, well, these people were involved and it's
not an itemized list of every single person
who went to the island,
but it gives you an idea of how
the control structures work. Oh, and by the
way, if you think the island was all
that he was up to or, you know,
just wait until you hear about everything else
that he he had,
that he'd been doing for forty years too.
Again, this isn't something where a guy just
got busted. He went on a, you know,
a five year bender where he was pimping
out children and got no. No. No. This
was going on for four decades. He was
involved in all kinds of things, and it
wasn't just trafficking. It was Ponzi schemes and
financial crimes and you name it. So so,
you know, so so I guess for for
people that are just kind of easing into
the Epstein,
topic,
like, it's a perfect topic to get into
because it it it is a it is
a
spiderweb of rabbit holes, man. I mean, you
go down one and it connects to a
bunch of other things. You think you're dealing
with just
Israel or sexual blackmail, and then you pop
up on the other side in transhumanism
in New Mexico. And you go, how do
these connect? You go, well, do they connect?
Because once you understand who this guy was
working with in that in that network, then
you see that there's a much bigger play
here and that the the sexual blackmail entrapment,
though great for headlines and definitely gets your
attention and is disgusting and
worthy of examination.
It's just the tip of the iceberg when
it comes to this guy. Right. And it's
also, like, in in the context of the
control mechanism, it is it is one of
the most important points to how they control
the rest of that in a lot of
ways. And the cover up of those stories,
right, and influencing
politics in certain areas that get them what
they need in those, you know, this and
they just again, not always the same group
person, but the the the hierarchy, the powers
around these things. And so so the the
other point though in case that was lost
other than the Tucker point was that what
he said on that interview was basically his
opinion and that Tucker the way they responded
about it was interesting. It's worth watching, but
that it is
Trump's
administration by doing what they're doing or signaling
to the other Epstein's, the Israel governments of
the world that we have your back. Right?
That we everyone knows we're lying. They all
they all know we know. Right? The whole
thing. It's very public. Everyone knows Tucker's call.
They're all talking about it. Like, we all
know this isn't true. And it's about saying
and, like, that line in the sand showing
the people that we're on the side of
you, not the American people or anybody else,
and that we're willing to stand this line
as long as you keep us in power.
It's a very important thing to think about.
But, again, nothing new if you've been watching
any of the work we're talking about about
how this all works. So let let's look
at this, first part, and we'll go through
some of the Epstein parts since I do
agree this is it it and, again, it's
not even just the individual
moving part that we're seeing like you're saying,
Charlie. It's it this is a huge story
for so many other reasons than just what's
in front of you. But this is so
interesting just as a almost almost entertaining in
a way, to be honest, as it wasn't
so alarming and terrifying
that Trump has now effectively shifted this into
it was a Democrat hoax and is not
backing down. This is the second time he
said that. And so now we'll play this
clip and we can look at that and
talk about it as well as the, I
mean, I don't know if the better word
than embarrassing for the Charlie Kirks and Tim
Pools out there who are trying to act
like, you know, let's move forward. And, like,
despite all of their statements before, it's it
is wild. So let's watch this, and we
can comment on it. No. No. She's,
she's given us
just a very quick briefing.
And in terms of the credibility of the
different things that they've seen,
and I would say that, you know, these
files were made up by Comey.
They were made up by Obama. They were
made up by but the Biden inform you
know, we and we went through years of
that
with the Russia
Russia Russia hoax,
with all of the different things that we
had to go through. We've gone through years
of it. But she's handled it very well,
and it's gonna be up to her. Whatever
she thinks is credible, she should release. Yeah.
Your
thoughts.
You can just see the wheels turning. Right?
We've got this very fake thing, Russiagate,
and
Komi and Clapper and all the usual characters
were involved in it. And we know it's
fake, and it was fake, and they were
they were doing it. Now all we have
to do is take this Epstein file and
then just move it and put it on
the same pile as the rest of this
other stuff. See, it's all fake just like
the rest of their things. This is how
this is how the mainstream media lies to
us, on on the on the daily. It's
90%
truth, 10% lies. Right? And then good luck
to you. You get to figure out what's
what and where where the lies are. There
it's it's it's blended in
with all the other information
in some sort of
I described this in in in my one
of my books is,
the way that that with the Smithmont Modernization
Act of 2012, it legalized
the,
it legalized disinformation
to be used. And and I think of
it like a peanut butter
manufacturing
facility. You know? Like, the the EPA tells,
like, you know, you you can you can
acceptably have this amount of bugs in your
in your peanut butter. Right? It's a, you
know, a cricket and a half per jar,
whatever the math works out to. So you
have to figure out where the disinformation crickets
are in your peanut butter. You know, it's
all blended in there somehow, and there's a
certain allowable amount of nonsense that can go
into there. And and then you watch it,
you turn on your TV, you think they're
gonna tell you the truth, and it's your
job to figure out where the lies are
and where the truth is. So when Trump
gives that statement talking about Comey, talking about
Russiagate, Russia, Russia, Russia, they did all that.
That's all truth. Right? That that that's what
they were doing. But then he takes the
Epstein thing and just adds it to that
pile, which isn't true. And next thing you
know, he's he's he's stashed it away and
said, no. It's no different from the rest
of this where, you know, it's time to
move on. And and I don't even know
necessarily, Ryan, if that messaging is for you
and me because
clearly it's laughable and we we roll our
eyes whenever we see something like that. It's
Marshall. But
but but for a segment of the population
and for the the the the social media
influencers out there, the word has gone out.
You know?
We're charting a course forward. We're not living
in the past of Epstein. That was last
week, man. We're we're working on every
on other things. By the way, that's all
Democrats doing that. It's not. It's like both
same people screaming for the last two years
that he would you know, this was coming.
It's coming. It's coming. And now it's like,
Epstein still? You know, it's a fairly weird,
jarring shift.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, and what's And I'm I'm glad these
people
that were saying for the last two years,
he's gonna release the file. He's gonna release
and then the binders come out and everybody
parades outside of the White House and takes
their pictures with it. Good. Good. Good. I
I want you all to look as clownish
as possible. You should have to own this
forever. If you went out there and said,
once Trump gets in office again, then he'll
release the Epstein files again,
then then you're a sucker. And and you
deserve the humiliation that comes along with believing
that Donald Trump is going to say is
gonna do what he says he's gonna do,
especially
when what he says he's going to do
is damage the empire
that he is now,
and has always been a part of. This
these are his people. There's no benefit to
selling them out to the general public,
while everybody was on the Epstein list when
you can now instead
leverage them yourself. You become Jeffrey Epstein.
Agnanimous, we could've I could've released all this
information on you, Bob, and
it ruined your career, and they would've put
you in jail, and you lost your higher
level banking job. But I didn't. I kept
it quiet. Now you owe me one.
Right. You know? So, like, imagine that times
a million.
That's the Donald Trump in charge or his
administration
in some way controlling this
in the flow of of Epstein files and
making a determination that they don't go out
to the public. Oh, if you if if
you're the guy who was on tape and
he just spared you, congratulations.
You you now work for his administration in
some way, shape, or form. So it's disgusting,
but I think it I think these people
that were cheerleading this and that were were
saying, oh, this time it's different. I think
they should have to stand in humiliation and
own this because you were wrong again when
you said that Donald Trump was gonna come
in here and save the day. He's not
that type of person. He's never coming to
save the day. You're just,
an ideological zealot, and you've been had again.
Yep. Definitely. I mean, the question is why
didn't Donald Trump release this in his first
administration?
Right? Are we gonna believe somehow didn't he
had all this in front of him and
and, you know, and just didn't do that
and and then allowed them to alter it?
Like, you know, it's just there there are
pieces that just don't make sense, you know,
or or the idea of that, you know,
where I interestingly, how this has evolved with
his,
truth truth social post he put out, which
is kinda where this started.
He didn't really say hoax. Right? But that's
what the clarification was. What I think is
interesting is how after they put the feelers
out and you watch the Benny Johnson's and
Alex Jones and Kurt, all of them kind
of rush into it, It develops in the
social media field. Right? And so what's interesting
is now he comes back out and just
goes hooks.
You wonder if that was really what he
was doing or he just does his usual
kind of, like, here's three different things right
down the middle. Like, how do you guys
read that? Are you mad at me? You
know, how does this work? And clearly I
mean, he got ratioed on True Social, which
is pretty insane to me. You know? And
so he clearly goes like, woah. Okay. And
then now now they're circling the wagons and
those same people are just like, you know,
moving forward. But I just think it's interesting
to, you know, wonder whether that was really
the plan to begin with because how can
you actually argue this is a hoax for
a thousand different reasons? And so that goes
back to the original point that it's marching
orders for me. Like, he is going, this
is how we're gonna move past this. Not
that we'll win. They'll all know you're lying,
but this is how we're gonna stick together.
We'll just call it a hoax and move
forward. Right? That's what and, you know, they
they it's interesting how the left will read
this, and there's so many different moving parts
to this. But let let's go over the,
different comments on this
and then what people have said because this
is just really fascinating to me. Like, so
Glenn Greenwald calls us out and says, what
is what is in the Epstein document that
is causing Trump now to insist over and
over that they're all forged and fake documents
fabricated by Comey, Obama, Hillary, and Biden?
This is this is you, which, by the
way, we noticed this account lately just exploded
because they're just highlighting all the Republicans getting
caught lying about this stuff. But there's, D'Souza
saying, you know, breaking in twenty twenty five
February. New con comfirm new confirmed US attorney
general, Pam Bond, who's calling for the Epstein
client list to be released to the public.
This is what Americans want, expose the evil.
Then it says, it's time to move on
for Epstein. And, you know, like, you just
can't patch that up. Like, you look like
a complete dishonest person, which you are. Here's
Charlie Kirk. You probably saw this one. We
mentioned it. Right? Saying that no Trump told
me, and so let's let me move on.
Here here's what he said. I'm done talking
about Epstein for the time being. I'm I'm
gonna trust my friends, the administration. I'm gonna
trust my friends in the government to do
what needs to be done, solve it, balls
in their hands. I've said plenty this last
weekend. So if you guys wanna see my
commentary on it, that's fine.
Trust my friends
in the gut. Trust I at first, we
we joke on this this morning and wake
up, like, you know, kind of like a
like
a groupie or something. You know? Like, he
just wants to decide, my friend, they're all
my friends. I know them. I know them.
They were friends. You know? That's how it
feels. But also just this idea that you're
gonna trust people in the power. Like, that's
nobody takes that seriously other than sycophants and
followers. You know? It's very strange. One more
thing and then comment, and this is what
he said after this. The Keith Woods called
about saying, doesn't that seem like the the
doesn't seem like the best messaging for conservatives
about Epstein? And he says, wrong. Not what
I said, even though it is. Also, keep
up with the news. Things are happening.
So going comment, this is them going, look
over there. There's you're you're old news. This
is what we're talking about, the the different,
the auto pen bombshell. That's what they're actually
pointing at. But go ahead. What are your
thoughts on that? Yeah. The the irony of
Charlie Kirk deciding that he's he's done talking
about Epstein. Were you ever talking about Epstein?
Were you were you because I never heard
any anything,
about that. I never amazed.
Oh, okay. Yeah. So he's he he must
be exhausted. He's ready to move on to
to the to the next thing. Yeah. I
I'm gonna go ahead and just trust my
government is the is is what is, like,
the last thing that goes through people's minds
as they're put up against the wall and
executed by the government. This has been going
on forever. The idea that people are going
to just blindly trust the government is,
is insane.
But, again,
I actually
like this.
Yeah. I want these people to self emulate
on camera. I want this to happen because
the Benny Johnson's and the Charlie Kirks of
the world,
they can never do there's
not not enough people, but some of the
people who followed them are gonna go get
out of here. Like, I you're done. You
know? How many people has
Tim Pool lost from his audience? Half?
I mean, it it it People can't
oh, you come out of a meeting with
Benjamin Netanyahu, and then anything you tell me
about that topic moving forward from that moment
until the day I die, I'm not interested
in because you're stained by that. Charlie Kirk
is stained by this. Hey. Aren't you the
guy that said it's time to move on
and and not worry about the Epstein fellas?
How would you feel if your kid if
your daughter was, you know, was a victim
of of the one well, how would you
feel if your kid bought the little Sofia
doll that Jeffrey Epstein and Ben Gertzel created?
Same thing as we have both anything. Right?
We're Charlie in there. You know, how what
if it was your kid that was hurt
by the vaccine, which is a fair point.
Right? Just the the pop the hypocrisy of
the thing they care about versus what they
care about. I always think it's interesting. But
There's no there's no anchoring
in any sort of,
belief system.
Because if there if there was, you would
be against child trafficking whether it was the
Democrats or the Republicans doing it. And if
you ever turn that into a team sport,
that's more of a indictment on the person
than it is anything else. It's like, well,
if you're willing to overlook
the Epstein files
simply because your guy told you to overlook
it, then you have to be honest with
yourself and say that you're not much of
a of a man. You're not much of
a human being at this point. You're just
playing team sports and hoping that that that
they throw you a bone if you're Charlie
Kirk or Benny Johnson. Well, I enjoy whatever
this is that you have now while you
have it because it's going away. Your credibility
is done.
It's embarrassing.
Bit one of the deviation points too is
that, remember, like, the way that this kind
of spun into the conversation was because of
mostly,
Tucker's speech at Turning Point. Right? But the
reason that started is because Charlie Kirk invited
him. Him and Megyn Kelly had that whole
talk on stage, and and so now Charlie
Kirk is being framed by, like, the loomers
as the one who's you know, you're a
traitor because you had Dave Smith and Tucker
Carlson give a different opinion than you scream
at everybody. But it's interesting that the argument
is not that Charlie Kirk is this is
kind of the same point to make about
Tucker and the rest. I don't think he's
waking up to this. It's been there the
whole time. He recognizes, like, I think a
lot of them do, that they're they'll become
immediately irrelevant if they don't start talking about
the obvious thing that everybody sees. So they
try to edge into it, but if their
audience is captured and they scream at them,
you know, the question is how many of
that do you think of bots?
Tim pulled the rest of it. I mean,
I I really don't want I can't I
can't I don't wanna believe that that many
people are that willing to ignore,
you know, the facts or that they don't
care. You know? So what do you think?
Estimation. What do you think is going on?
You know, that many bad people, dumb people,
bots?
Well, there are bots. We know that. The
the question is how how much of this
is bot related.
And and then maybe the follow-up question is
how many
human beings have you interacted with that might
as well be bots? You know, their their
their level of thinking is bot like.
They move in a herd. They're not very
anchored in any beliefs. They're,
sort of they they sort of go with,
wherever the predominant
mass is taking them.
I think there are a lot of very
uninformed people out there. I think there are
people that that rightly
believe that the Democratic Party is unhinged psychopaths.
And so they're looking so they're thinking, well,
the opposite party must be the opposite of
that, which is, of course, a a miscalculation.
So I think that there are a lot
of people that are seeing what's wrong with
our world and and want somebody to come
and fix it, but they haven't really figured
out the game. That that
these guys are characters and that there's this
is a bit scripted and and not quite
as organic as they'd like to believe. And
that if a character does come out of
the blue to save you,
you should be very suspicious of that, especially
if he's with the government as Donald Trump
is. So I think that there are some
people that are going to be ideologically
aligned with Donald Trump no matter what he
does. As he said, I could shoot somebody
in the middle of the street and they'd
still vote for me. So there's that segment.
I think there's a segment of of people
that just want somebody to fix this, and
they're gonna get disenchanted with, Donald Trump. And
within the next two or three years, they'll
be begging for, somebody from the Democratic side
to come save them. Right? Because they they
won't figure this out. And then they'll be
us.
We're infuriated with both sides because we understand
the game a little bit better. We've we've
started looking into the game before, you know,
some of the newer people that have come
to this party.
And and we can see it all laid
out right in front of us. We can
understand
the majority of the moves that are being
made.
I think it's an evolution for people. I
think a lot of the people that are
that are watching these right leaning, Turning Point
USA things, I think that I think a
large percentage of them want things to be
better, and they think that this is how
it's going to be better. What they're what
they haven't understood is that in order for
things to get better, you have to remove
your attention from the system, not add more
to,
of it to the system. Because
if you're trying to change the system from
inside,
it's it has protection mechanisms that just don't
allow that. You have to build a better
mouse trap outside and then suck people off
that way, which might actually wind up taking
us into a conversation
about Elon Musk's America First third party that
he's talking about. And speaking of,
of sort of a Pied Piper strategy to
peel people away from the establishment and funnel
them into a new,
cul de sac, we have this America first
idea, this concept of America first, which,
I read an a great article by Alexander
Dugan today,
talking about that. And he was saying, you
know,
this MAGA component
is really always kind of was a third
party if you think about it because the
Democrats are one way and the Republicans are
sort of a different version of this, but
the MAGA people really are
nationalists that want what's best
for their country. And that really isn't represented
by the red team or the blue team.
And in fact, Elon Musk
has a real opportunity.
Might not be the best one, but it
but it's a it's an interesting opportunity to
start this third party. Of course, you and
I both know it'll eventually lead into AI
governance. It'll be like, oh, these human being
politicians are so easily compromised with Epstein stuff
and money and whatnot.
We need a better form of government, maybe
a government that isn't biased in that way.
And let me introduce you to,
Grok five, now running your local government.
You know? So I I don't think of
this as as being a a solution. Let
me be clear that the Elon Musk's third
party, I don't see it as as a
solution.
I see it as an as a continuation
of
this play that we're watching. Right? Because, like,
this guy's mad at this guy and then
they fight, and then Trump and Musk are
best friends, and we we all saw that
immediately. Like, they're gonna fight. Like, they're gonna
break up. No way these two hotheads are
they're so volatile. And then and then Elon
leaves and says, you know, orange man is
bad after all. Well, let me do this.
I'll start this third party, and it definitely
won't be controlled by Peter Thiel and all
those guys. Right? Wink, wink. But we'll we'll
make it more it'll be fair, and it'll
be this. And he does have money, and
he does have a long track record of
getting things done. But I I do find
it interesting that the guy who has made
a living off of government contracts is going
to introduce the third party to the government
and then break down bring down the government
that he himself is dependent on. So I'm
always a bit,
you know, I'm always keeping that in the
back of my mind that Elon is the
biggest government contractor in the world right now.
So I don't know. Let's talk about the
third party point a little more. Let let
let's go through rest of these Epstein points,
and I wanna talk about the third party
point before we overlap it with where I
think it's really about, like, you know, I'm
very skeptical as I think we all should
be with anything even politically related, especially
the third party shoe that we wait for
to drop for a long time. You know?
The the ploy knowing we want that kind
of thing. But I think, you know, I
get the sense, I'll jump ahead briefly, that
it's, you know, even Doge.
I was thinking about this today. What what
I think we really saw there was that
Elon, it's a AI is what they're all
about right now. Like, that is a huge
you know, one of the major elements of
everything that's happening. And I think they clearly
needed all the information, you know, like the
the unfettered access, both Israel, Palantir, Elon Musk,
everything they're doing, they were given open, unfettered
access to everything about you out there watching
everything in this country. Right? And so now
he got what he wanted.
So he doesn't need this anymore. Right? He
dropped this. I'm out of here. Moves over
here. Let's pretend we broke up or maybe
it's real. I don't think they like each
other. And now we're starting this in, you
know, Texas Star City, whatever it's called, the
a x a I, even it's all kind
of exploding.
And, you know, we're now we're still over
here digging through, you know, look at 2020,
Auto Pen, Doge. You know, we're, like, distracted
while this whole thing is building around us.
So let let's come back to that. Let
me just rattle these off really quickly so
we can see the rest of these. This
funny DC Drano.
This is Trump going, I've always suspected Adam
Schiff was a scam artist, but, yeah, they're
all liars. But this is now a whole
new scandal. Look over here at the Democrat
cheating. You know? Woah. President Trump just called
on Adam Schiff. He's a felon. You know,
these are them going, woah. Like, in my
opinion, stop talking about what we're all doing.
You know, Schiff for prison. See, here's Tim
Pool. No one's above the law. Can you
imagine saying that right now? What's going on?
No. It's just wild. Here's Tim pulling a
Barnum statement. Seriously. Moly. Tim says, this is
what I find most hilarious. It's almost like
he's trying to play this is what they
do. Like, am I kind of trolling? But
this is what they're actually pushing. Right? He
says,
absolutely insane that Democrats actually voted to have
the US government publish child porn. Now that
even Grok will tell you, that's not what
they're saying. They're talking about them. We want
the Epstein files. And now the Republicans are
going, we can't do that. That's child porn
stuff. And so there's Tim Poole outraged
about releasing the Epstein files, and that's how
he's trying to frame that. And here's what's
funny. This is you. Tim Poole, February.
Pam body get Pam body said the FC
list is on her desk, release the list,
expose the criminals. And now I can't believe
they voted to do that.
Right. Did you, you know, you wanna comment
that real quick since that's just absurdly funny?
This idea that the list is going to
be full unredacted
videos of all these people involved in child
pornography, nobody is asking for that. And as
far as I know, nobody was
expecting that or pushing for it. We just
wanted to know who
all the people were that are on the
videos, not that we need to see the
videos themselves. So this idea, like, oh, we
can't release that. That's that would be that'd
be illegal for us to release it. We're
not asking you to do it. Strip all
the names of the people, you know, that
you're watching in these videos. Give us those
names. Right? Or, you know, have a trusted
partner who's, you know, go in there and,
you know, watch it
himself and and make the list. But, this
idea that they were gonna, like,
release all of this information, it's like, no.
That is
not in any way, shape, or form what
the American people were waiting for. We weren't
waiting for child porn to be shown to
us on video. It's not about that. But,
of course, they conflate the two things. And
and and
and what these mainstream alternative media people are
doing
is,
it well, it's embarrassing, frankly, but but
it's not
it's not, surprising
to try and control the narrative and to
move on. And and, hey, listen. We've got
Adam Schiff right where we want him.
Didn't we have this conversation in 2016
and 2017 and 2018, 2039.
And I'm like, this isn't new. Adam Schiff's
been a bad guy forever.
This isn't some sort of breaking headline or
anything like this. I just don't
it's just a distraction. And I think they
understand how how the
the mainstream media news cycle works that you've
got forty eight, seventy two hours. You just
have to wait it out. I don't know.
The cycle's probably
less on social media because everything is
amplified.
But,
they'll just write it out. You know, next
week
or next month, there'll be a new thing,
and then we'll we'll be on to the
to the next topic. Right? And Epstein will
be sort of forgotten and trashed, and some
some,
group, you know, segment of the population will
say, oh, yeah. You know, they'll they'll live
the rest of their lives thinking, yeah. That
was some democratic
hopes that they put. Yeah. That was you
know, and they'll never have the intellectual curiosity
to dig into it and find out if
they were lied to. And and and, frankly,
it's never gonna matter for them or for
their lives. They're just gonna live their lives
believing nonsense, which is fine. But for us,
it's important that we get it right and
that we hammer on people like,
Tim Pool and Charlie Kirks of the world
that are trying to like, if you're trying
to clean up the mess
of the Republican
party who's deeply involved in child pornography,
then you are a bad guy too. You're
not allowed to be anywhere near it and
helping out. It just you're
it's it's weird to me that the Republicans
didn't say, hey, look, you know,
I want the list too, but this is
unacceptable. Right? There's been no breaking away from
that. It's been it's everybody is in unison
on this. The the there there's no there's
no outliers. The Republicans, I think oh, I
now this is off the top what I
saw circulating today, so keep that in mind.
But the the headline circulating were that the
the Republicans were essentially the ones that blocked
this. Right? Which is obvious when you think
about it. But the I just don't know
who and how in what ways and the
different breakdowns. But what's fat what's crazy about
this is just that, you know,
it's obviously not
I mean, you could read every read for
yourself out there. They they were not going
we want the child porn released. Right? They're
saying release the list. So he's just in
a very dishonest way framing that as that's
what they wanted. Why? Because he knows that
the the intellectual lightweights out there are gonna
go, oh, the Democrats are pedophile, so it
all lines up. You know? Just ignore the
obvious thing that they just turned into the
they just shifted direction. You know? It's just
really embarrassing. And it'd be but there must
be something driving that. Here's Eagle Guntherman.
It's sickening the lengths Democrats will go to
protect pedophiles. Here he is eight hours ago.
FYI, the rules house committee just,
votes seven to five to block an amendment
pushing for full vote on the release of
the Epstein files. You know, it's it's and
the point is they're all in line with
where this is going. Here's five times August.
Charlie Kirk says Fauci was pardoned in the
dead of night by AutoPen.
The, you you know, the same Fauci that
Trump gave a medal to. We're gonna care
about that. The use of AutoPen was approved
by White House aids, which, again, nobody has
proven or verified that this is anything other
than Biden using an AutoPen. I wouldn't surprise
me if somebody else was using it for
him. But the the insinuation of the assumption
is that somebody else did because he was
out of his mind, which is true. But
they don't have that proof. It it it'll
never end the in the court dynamic will
never come. They're just using this to distract
is my opinion. You know? The auto pinpoint
and,
five times August says, if you think our
government is going to do something about Fauci's
crimes after telling you to forget about Epstein,
I've got a bridge to sell you. Here's
Alex Jones saying, I can't believe what Trump
world is doing to itself.
He's guys, this guy is the worst of
it all. He just very clearly trying to,
like, ride this wave as if he's the
one like, he's independent of it all. You
know, it's just so crazy. And this is
something I thought you'd think is interesting. We
can talk about this in the last part.
Jeffrey Epstein's accomplished, Ghislaine Maxwell, is now claiming
she's ready to reveal the truth, whatever that
really means, about the list. And what's interesting
is that that I was reading through this
yesterday that what they're now arguing, Trump claiming
it's a hoax,
suddenly adds new light to her case, doesn't
it? Because now she's going, oh, her lawyers
are going, oh, well, if there's no list,
if it's a hoax, you can't charge her
with trafficking because there was no clients. And
so she's going, perfect. We're gonna come back
to this court unless Trump does you know,
works with the that's kind of what's happening
right now. And so they're trying to block
her from being able to go back to
court. I bet you they're working behind the
scenes. Go ahead and comment. This is this
is just really interesting development,
if you want to. I'd be very careful
if the,
cameras in my cell turned off if I
were her. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Right.
She's
a she's a she's a cog in a
much bigger machine.
You know? This is this is,
this this is something that we've been discussing
for
years,
this network. And
as they said, you know, Jeffrey Epstein didn't
traffic
children to nobody. Right? There had to have
been a client with well, it's like, well,
what are we talking here? Are we talking
about,
videos? Are we talking about how many people
who was on the airplane? Who was showing
up for fun with physics at the island?
I mean,
just because you were there
doesn't necessarily
mean that
the worst
potential you know, the worst possible situation happened.
I mean, I'd I'd I'd read into some
of the events that were going on there
with with regard to the scientists. And and,
you know, the scientists the scientific component of
of what was happening in Jeffrey Epstein's island
was
was was definitely bizarre, and and and his
his interest in physics
was a was a huge
curveball that I think a lot of people
that dug into this didn't really understand. I
mean, they could get the child trafficking and
the Ponzi schemes, but how does physics work
into this whole thing?
But, you know, the the
the
the role of of the Maxwell family
well Right. I mean, like, I've got a
stack of of documents on them. It's and
and by the way, it's not limited to
Ghislaine. Right? There's there's other sisters,
Isabelle and Christine, and then they were up
to no good,
as well. So this this I I can
see it now. I can I can see
this now?
By the time the mainstream media gets done
with their makeover campaign,
we're gonna have Ghislaine Maxwell as the victim
in all of this, where she was just
under the thumb of Epstein. She was put
in prison by the dirty deep state. They
wanted to keep her silent about a list
that didn't exist, and now we've gotta free
her because she's being held there. She's a
damsel in distress
who didn't have anything to do with it,
was just along for the ride, you know,
maybe
based on her childhood with Robert Maxwell, didn't
have the greatest of influences and found herself.
No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No.
No. She's a dirty operator as well, and
this whole
situation was very real. But I but I
can almost
I can almost see
the media trying to and and then the
social media influencers as well, trying to whitewash
her reputation and bring her back as some
sort of victim in this whole thing. And
and and to come out and and she's
gonna, you know,
give us the list, and she's gonna make
sure that the deep state is held accountable
and blah blah blah blah. It'll go on
and then then you'll never hear it again.
Yeah. It makes sense. I mean and and
maybe that's all because she now has some
leverage because they're seemingly incompetent, didn't think through
the statements in front of the media. You
know, like, there there's there's a lot of
moving parts. Here's Jack Posobiec, and this is,
today
trying to this is where it's now turning.
And now what's funny is there was all
these floating claims that Bongino and Cash Bridge
had already stepped down, and that seemed to
be a bunch of grifters online who were
misunderstanding an Atlantic parody that went out or,
like, a satire. But either way, it's they
seem to still be there and even Bondi.
And I don't Trump's clearly backed her, but
it says Trump says Bondi should release the
files.
So this is an interesting kind of, you
know,
he's still backing her. Right? But you can
tell this is what he does with Rubio
too. He's kinda like, it's up to them.
It's their fault. It's their responsibility, which is
just insane. You know? Here is Dershowitz coming
out now at the same time and saying
judges are suppressing the information.
So, you know, ever it's like these things
don't add up together. I just think that
this this, as always, has the hallmarks of
what I'm being become accustomed to in Israeli
propaganda.
A lie over here, a lie over there.
Here's three at the same time. Which one
do you like? Right? Keep throwing out adaptations
to the lie until you finally just ignore
it or keep it. You know, that's what
we keep seeing in all of this. Here
is, this is from, today. Man who served
time in in same cell as Epstein said
there's no way he was able to kill
himself, which, again, we already know all of
this. We've already parsed through all this. We've
broken these things down. That that's why we
know largely that they're lying. Here's Guntherman, and
this is to kind of, you know, push
into their direction. President Trump said the auto
pen scandal was, quote, the biggest scandals we've
had in ten fifty to a hundred years.
That feels
like obvious. Don't look don't look here. Lastly,
I at the same point, I just said
the only people now pushing this are blind
followers and opportunists. Remember who they are. Also,
be skeptical of those who suddenly see the
light when it's been obvious for a long
time. Hope they changed, but question it until
they prove out over a very long period
of time. Now he says many of them
will support Palantir
Vance in 02/2028
and still believe voting is the solution, kind
of what we're saying. Right? This is his
opinion. They'll claim Vance, learn from his lessons
from Trump and moved on. This is a
thought to carry off this, you know, that
it's easy to see how this perpetuates as
long as they just give you something that
seems to make sense, you know, and people
will jump on it. So it's just very,
very alarming where this all goes. Any last
thoughts on Epstein before we talk about the
overlap to this, that the, AI point that
I thought was interesting? No. Let's jump into
AI. Let's do it. Okay. How much time
do you have to date, by the way?
As much as you need. Awesome. Yeah. Are
you you know, we'll we'll probably go that
much longer, but just because sensors k. A
lot to get into. Let's talk about this.
This this is just to start it off,
this is, Thomas Thomas Massey pointed this out.
And,
it seems the wrong one.
He he said they blocked consideration of my
amendments, the Clarity Act, which would have prohibited
central bank digital currencies as well. And this
is Margaret Taylor Greene pointing out the Genius
Act, saying the house has voted on this,
which lays the groundwork for CBDCs. And so
the point is that there's clearly effort right
now to allow this groundwork through multiple either
bills or stopping ones trying to prevent it
to allow the direction of sort of this
CBDC stable coin aspect. I just included that
today, but it's definitely in the same wheelhouse
as the AI conversation. It's all these moving
parts to the the building technocracy.
And I thought this interesting is that Elon
Musk
has this place in Texas.
And there we've been this all relates to
the AI water point, which we'll we'll stop
on and talk about, that Elon Musk has
built this this everyone should watch this. Actually,
it's really interesting. This is a video about
the town, and I believe it's Minnesota. And
we're talking about is how Elon Musk has
created this massive sprawling thing and with no
really oversight. He rushed this through. Nobody knew
what was happening. And now it seems as
if they're not only as the title says,
the they we went to the town, Elon
Musk is poisoning. And you can see that
not only is it what's happening around it
and same thing we'll talk about when it
comes to these other locations.
This is, I believe, Texas as well. Their
water tap ran dry when Meta built next
door.
The point is that they are using these
turbines to massively increase this energy, which is
causing all sorts of really terrible side effects.
And, you know, and to me, it all
comes back to the same point that there's
an end game here. They're rushing through to
get this done. At the same time, when
they're flirting with no AI regulation,
you know, all these different parts. Like, this
is what's going on right now, guys, and
it's like it doesn't just involve one group.
I think it involves all the people we're
talking about. So I think it's really alarming
when you realize
that this just overlap with the weather manipulation.
I don't know if you looked into the
Rainmaker guy who, out just all on. He's
kind of like this another Palantir,
Lucky Palmer look alike type. Palmer mullet guy.
Yeah. And so he runs Rainmaker, and he
admitted more than once. I even showed his
interview with Sean Ryan where he said on
July 2, they had weather c cloud cloud
seeded. They do it in Texas. They do
it in Tennessee. They do it all over
the place, which is real. They admit to
it, but he claims it has no effect
on what happened. I just went through that
to see think it was interesting and then
stumbled into the larger conversation, which is
weather manipulation for artificial intelligence or rather, you
know, possibly creating more rainfall because it becomes
very obvious
that this is a major problem. Like, sustainability
like, the idea that it's impossible that this
will be sustainable unless we rapidly increase the
amount of fresh water that we have. And
so just to read this and then we'll
talk about it. My point on this was
just whether or not that's happening, you know,
increasing rainfall because we seem to have record
rainfall and floods happening all over the country
right now.
A megawatt is equal to 1,000,000 watts. This
is the article describing the amount of, you
know, the energy in general. What is the
rate at which energy is used and produced?
For example, a 100 watt light bulb use
a 100 watt hours, whereas one megawatt could
light two sixty watt light bulbs nonstop for
a year or run two fridges for a
whole year. In 2021, The United States used
11,595
gallons of water
per megawatt hour for cooling plant just power
plants according to US Energy Information. Now Sam
Altman,
cofounder and CEO of OpenAI,
claimed in a recent blog post, which they
dispute in this article,
with they they say without providing evidence that
each chat GPT same con same point for
Croc Croc, by the way, if not even
worse based on some other factors.
One,
the evidence they provide the evidence that each
chat GPT prompt a person enters
uses
point three four megawatts
or what he describes as, quote, roughly one
fifteenth a teaspoon of water. And this is
pretty much roundly dispute disputed by people that
have been doing this research. Studies were in
this linked right here to this study from
2023,
different results. A 2023
study conducted by University of California,
that basically found that chat GPT to write
one one hundred word
email consume 17 ounces of water.
One email. But be taking the the information
from this other study and saying they used
11,595
gallons per megawatt
hour for a power plant And knowing that's
happening more, I mean, somewhere in there I
mean, even if it's point three five or
or roughly one fifth of a teaspoon in
regard to how much they're using, that still
presents an interesting problem. But the amount of
water and, again, the larger point if you
look into this is this is coming out
left and right, is that the amount of
water they're consuming to do one thing is,
like, with, like, gallons. If not, somewhere with
that range just to go, hey, Grok. Answer
this question for me. And so
that in general becomes insane to me. And
the other resources we're talking about, like, the
quartz stand from, you know, spruce pines, different
things. They're, like, overtaking small towns for what
they're using. I just think this is a
a setup to fail, if not just to
create another scarcity resource that we're will be
controlled by. I know I'm a conspiracy theorist.
Right? But what are your thoughts on that?
That's where I was that's where my mind
goes with this. No. We all understand the
energy,
usages
of AI. We under we we hear Meta
talking about firing up third three Mile Island
again and, like, let's let's have some nuclear
energy facilities to produce, you know, to
to power these AI data centers. I think
we understand that.
The water side of things is a little
trickier because I don't think that most people
associate those two things together. Why what do
we need water for? What are we spraying
it down with a hose or what's happening?
And so
my mind immediately goes to, oh,
it uses this new thing that we've created,
uses a disproportionate
amount of water,
which is,
you know, a tangible resource that you could
measure and, you know, another one of those
measurables like carbon dioxide and whatnot
that eventually will become scarce, regulated, controlled by
Nestle Corporation,
who's
obviously talked about this, talked about it at
Bilderberg.
Bush family owning that massive freshwater
ranch in South America,
and there's going to be water wars. I
mean, we haven't got to that part of
the play yet, of course, but
we will eventually get there. And I can
envision a scenario in which The United States
has a variety of
of problems happening simultaneously with regard to AI.
First, we have a power generation,
gap
because
somebody in California decided that they were gonna
reimagine the whole power grid there and and
and and never upgrade it, you know, over
fifty years and try to run electric cars
and all those things and destroy that. So
we definitely need power generation, but where are
we gonna get that? Are we gonna keep
burning coal? Are we gonna do do, you
know, the the nuclear thing? And then on
top of that okay. So we don't just
have a power generation. Now we have a
water problem too.
So and in California, as somebody who lived
in California for over thirty years, there's always
I mean Right. Freshwater lakes, yeah, oceans
running down the whole left side of your
state, but no water available.
And we've always had a water issue. In
fact,
had to buy it from the rockies and
have it,
sent in on a hundred year lease. And
so there's always been big problems with the
water system in California,
and,
and and this would exacerbate it. I mean,
the last thing in the world we need
is something like
AI sis power generation systems using water in
the same way that fracking is using water,
which is Right. Just use it as a
lubricant, and then it gets completely,
contaminated and poisonous, and then you can't use
it ever again after that. So we we
have to think these things through, but, of
course, I believe they've thought them through. And
that maybe the scarcity
component to this is a is a feature,
not a bug.
That's where my my mind goes with it
as well. At least the you know, what
we've seen of them in the past. But
for for thank you for important to kind
of explain that for those that may not
know or haven't seen my coverage on it.
The basic point as you were highlighting is
that it's both for, like,
generation, like, using the water to power, which
is the smaller part of it. But I
guess the largest part is the, like, kind
of the cooling aspect. Like, you but and
what's weird about it, and this is also
important to hear, it has to be fresh
water, which is, like, the entire problem with
that, you know, and that they use this
to cool this down and it evaporate. Like,
they did uses a lot of water. And
so it is a really crazy kind of
development in all of this, and I think
I mean, it's it's clear that this is
whether or not it's by design,
they don't care.
I I think that's always the case is
it's not about what we want or they'll
they'll deal with our like, look at my
point was, like, look at Flint, for example.
Maybe this has been going on a lot
longer than we think. And all and we've
been watching these moves take place, and they're
like, we don't care if you get hurt
by it. Yeah. We'll deal with the the
stuff that you know, fall out, but there's
a much bigger play happening here. You know?
It really does concern me where this goes.
And here here is,
again, the the
other article from from, let me make sure
it was what place it was.
Oh, it's Newton County, Georgia. So, yeah, it's
happening all over the country. And this is
I I was at playing a video about
this actually. Their water taps are running dry.
There there's all this contamination.
This is happening pretty much around the country
right now. Here's an interesting discussion from Texas.
And I plan on doing a lot more
deep dive on this, but but I was
going through this
today. It so in Texas, here there's two
things to think about, actually.
We saw the AI point. Right? And, technically,
still, that could come back into play despite
them already removing it from the the bill.
Arguably, it can still find its way back
in. I don't think it has officially happened
yet, but the idea is they removed the
ten year moratorium. Right?
Is it it really just jumps back to
states. It's kind of the ultimate point. Right?
So which is what I would have wanted.
States rights, it matters. But so that ultimately
means that in Texas, for example, if we're
talking about Elon Musk in Texas, then they
now have the ability to try to regulate
that. And I imagine he's much more immersed
in this. So when the AI side of
it is one thing, just whether or not
they're gonna regulate that. But I do think
these overlap. It's in the same conversation. But
in the water side of it, I found
some interesting water legislation.
This is from 2025.
It's from May. Here's what it says.
Relating to creating the Central Texas Water Alliance,
which I'll be looking more into. Providing authority
to issue bonds,
granting the power of eminent domain, providing authority
to impose fees.
Yeah. That doesn't sound like it's related at
all. Right? I mean, that's that's just, like,
exactly what I'd worry about. Go ahead.
Yeah. That's a big problem, the eminent domain.
See, it's one thing if you own your
land.
You may own your land depending on where
you live, and there's somebody I spent 25
years in real estate, but
you you can own your land and there
could be water under your land. But if
you don't also own the water rights Yep.
Then you don't own it. And so that
can be a situation where,
it's not just that Bill Gates is buying
up farmland, he's also buying aquifers. He's buying
the the underground water, places, you know, pieces
of land that have not just water, but
water rights to it. And you do it
legally in in that you know, you if
you do it through the system that they
created,
where you have to have rights to the
water in your ground, which sounds crazy to
anybody who is a free sovereign person that
that the state needs to get involved
or fining you for collecting rainwater,
on your property like they do in Oregon.
You know? I was gonna write that down
in the chamber. You're done. Like, San Francisco
is the same thing. How you could be
charged for a crime for collecting rainwater? Israel
says Gaza can't do it because they own
the water. There's a lot of overlap to
this. Yeah. So so if we just take
all of our
all of our negative thoughts that we have
about how they do this stuff and then
just say, you know, that precious clean amazing
life giving water,
they'll do it to that as well
because
they're on the that that's the next step
in this. Yeah. They wanna run control the
oil control the oil. You control the transportation.
You know? Control the food. You control the
people like Kissinger says. Control the water and
you control life and death. And and that
is unfortunately the direction that that,
that they want to to take us. And
by the way, in a world in which
the robots are running things and AI is
managing
all of these systems,
human beings aren't going to be as necessary
as they currently are. And therefore, what do
they need all this water for, Ryan? You
know? Yeah. That's just useless drinkers.
Yeah. You're right. And it makes you very
expendable, much more than you are now. Imagine
that. Right? I mean, that's if they don't
care about you now, imagine they no longer
need your labor. Right? I mean, this is
I mean, this stuff stuff like this sounds
so crazy to some people. It's all about
history, guys. Look. Right? This is not new.
Like, the the the power structures, the the
the the the dying empires. You know, there's
all sorts of things like the it we're
we have been here before in history. It's
important to understand how these things work, and
it's not new. You know? And here here's
another alarming part that overlaps what we're saying
before is AI, rather the direction of AI
for this country has now completely immersed itself
with Israel. Israel signed an agreement with The
US to cooperate in all things artificial intelligence.
And so as as they were saying, don't
forget, they just signed a policy to consolidate
all of the data on all Americans, and
now Israel will have access to that. No
problem there. You know? I just there's so
many moving parts to where this goes. The
Pentagon's now gonna claim they're saying you're gonna
start using XAI,
which is just that DARPA program that became
Elon's toy that now became a, you know,
social engineering tool, which is involved with the
AI direction, which now Israel is immersed with.
I mean, Israel is completely immersed in Twitter,
and now XAI is Twitter. And now the
Department of Defense is gonna be I mean,
you just these things are not made up,
guys. And we have everyone watching the show
knows. We've talked about all these. We have
the receipts.
This is an overtaking of our country, not
just so jarringly switch topics, but my god.
I'm just so alarmed with how clear all
of this is.
Yeah. And the x app, the everything app
on your phone, that's social media and eventually
will be your money,
just know
whose whose group is partnered with Israel on
on all of this stuff. I mean, if
you think that that if you think, oh,
I don't want WeChat. It'll be like Chinese
dystopia. We I want the American version of
it. Well, the American version of it comes
with Israeli fingerprints all over it as well.
So whatever you think you're you're getting away
from with the Chinese group, you're walking right
into. If it's American, it might as well
just have an Israeli flag wrapped around it.
So all of your data I mean,
shoot pick your poison. Who do you want
to know the intimate details of your life?
The Chinese or the Israelis? Because somebody's gonna
know it because that's the way this is
set up,
to to move forward. I I personally am
am not interested in either one of those
groups
being involved in this, but
but my opinion really apparently doesn't matter any
longer. The opinion of the American people
doesn't matter. If it did, Donald Trump would
have been having meetings saying, we got a
real PR nightmare on our hand with this
Epstein stuff. You know, we gotta figure out
the right thing to say. They come right
out and say, it's all fake. It doesn't
exist. That's not the right thing to say.
That wasn't workshopped through, oh, you know, Hill
and Knowlton to come out and tell you
this is exactly the best thing to say.
So we're in a
I'll tell you what, Ryan. I'm I'm what
makes me the most nervous about this
is that
it seems that that that there used to
be you know, administrations
worried about the perception management component of this.
Like, how is the general public gonna feel
if we do x, y, and z? We're
gonna do it anyway, but how are they
gonna feel, and how can we manipulate this?
And with the Trump administration,
it's like they just don't even care. It's
like they don't care about the optics of
it. They're just we're gonna do it anyway.
It's gonna be bad from a PR standpoint,
mister mister president. You're gonna have to deal
with this. They don't care. It's like or
either that, either they don't care or they're
not sophisticated
enough to think a couple steps ahead and
realize what this is gonna you know, the
ramifications, like you said,
of Ghislaine Maxwell's case now looks you know,
her her lawyers are going, oh, no clients,
you say.
Let's get the judge back in chambers. Let's
let's let's have a conversation because, apparently, we've
got somebody who's been locked up for a
crime that didn't happen.
So this is,
I mean, I don't know if it's better
to be ruled by sophisticated
psychopaths or this bumbling group of, morons inside
the Trump administration that can't get the messaging
right. It's all
it's all bad either way, I suppose. But,
hey. But at least it's not Kamala.
Right.
You know, or or you could add or
they're not in control. I mean, you know,
I mean, it's hard not to this I
was saying earlier is that, you know, there
are people that can't get past that point
that, you know, I don't understand why they're
doing this. This is hurting their career, and
and they just can't move on beyond which
is, like, basically, a hang up to where
there must be an excuse. I'm not gonna
look further until I that that that makes
them think maybe Democrats are tricking me. You
know, it's like they can't get past. Maybe
it's just that they're not the ones making
these decisions. Maybe it's that they're not acting
for your interests. I don't that's my opinion,
but they can't prove that, but consider those
possibilities. Because I don't think there's anything that
makes more sense there. Not that I know
for sure, but if you look at what's
happening and you and like we keep saying,
you know, why would he come out and
do that? Why would he knowing that his
base this this was built on the idea
that this was gonna happen and doesn't come
out and just go, oh, well, here's why
it's not gonna happen. Comes out and goes,
it's fake. And anyone says otherwise, you're dumb.
Why would you talk about Epstein? You know,
it's like that's a that's a, like, a
come to Jesus moment. People are like, okay.
This is terrifying. You know?
Somebody else is controlling this or he's not
our person. And so I still go back
to that's because there's other things that are
truly dictating this policy. And it's not just
Trump or this administration. It's been going on
a long time. I think it juxtapose or,
you know, kind of intertwines with the outcome
that the technocratic, you know, the build back
better, all the things that are happening while
they're pointing back at 2020. You know? Like,
I think that's where it kinda comes together
right now. And so Yeah.
Okay. Go ahead. And we talked about this
couple months ago. The invisible influence, the black
hole that is exerting its its its forces
on
people and making them behave in an unusual
manner. And you just go,
well, I mean, an explanation would be that
an external force that is in the shadows
is doing is making this person dance because
they they sure are dancing, and they never
danced before. And now they're enthusiastically
dancing like their life depends on it. So
I wonder why that is. The answer is,
well, because somebody has has
the answer is that there's somebody above them.
That's it. Who it is and what there's
just there's if you think that you've reached
the final boss, you haven't. This is a
there are layers above
these people, obviously. We know that. But but
for people that are scratching their heads going,
why is he doing why is he operating
against his own self interest? Because he's controlled.
And and this is this is the part
in the in the movie where he gets
controlled, and he has to do things that
are
incompatible with reality,
completely
goes against his,
his, you know, when he was running for
president, the the sales pitch he was giving,
how he's gonna, you know, open the Epstein
files and
and
simultaneously, boy, it's neutered
a a a whole bunch of,
mainstream alternative media people, which is great. They've
been stained by this, which they should be.
And, I think that in the aftermath of
of the of the Epstein debacle,
he'll do what he always does too. Right?
He'll he'll fire Pam Bondi or Cash Patel
or Bongino or all three of them and
say, they were the problem. I was trying
to give it to you, but these guys
were the bad guys. You know?
Yeah. So,
expect expect more frustration, I would assume.
Yeah. I agree. And it's worth pointing out
again,
like, you know, these cases was missed when
we talked about it briefly a moment ago.
Right? So if we're being told so Trump
up until now, right before 2024,
I'm gonna release the files. Right? He had
said this. That's why it became a thing.
So think about the timing. If Trump was
saying that 2024
so he was the president before that. So
that means that he knew what was there
to some degree and was telling you, I'm
going to release them. So now to jump
to it's fake, like, there's just not somebody
stupid enough to fall for that. You're either
onto the team and you're willing to lie
about it or you're you know, think about
the that just doesn't work together. If he
if he was telling you he was gonna
release the thing and now says it's fake,
then that means he lied to 2024 maybe
or he lied from four. He's lying at
some point. You know, it's like that's the
the really hard thing for multiple to get
past. Let me play this clip about the
the AI connection to what we were just
going through, which I do think is a
really alarming kind of glimpse into this. Because
even the Epstein thing, by the way, like
and then let's actually touch on some of
the things that you thought added to the
the technological part with Epstein. But the, the
the the future,
rather the immediate reality that they're building around
us, you know, it that that is it's
not the only story. Clearly, there's a lot
of things. The genocide in Gaza is happening,
and we have to keep talking about it.
But I just don't want people to miss
that this is I think what this that's
their, like, their long bet. You know, this
is where this is going. And so if
we're getting pulled into these old stories, which
are probably still relevant too, you could you
could decide for yourself. But make sure you're
not ignoring this larger story where it goes
because this is where I think we're driving.
I think we all know that.
In the long term, the plan is to
pretty much lock up humanity in smart cities,
which is kind of a superset of a
fifteen minute city.
They've sold all the state and local governments
and countries
that smart cities are about sustainability
and the good of the city. But in
reality, the language from the UN and WEF
and their white papers is all inverted.
So
air monitoring is really about limiting mobility and
no car ownership.
Right? Surveillance
controlled via LED grid is why the smart
lighting is there.
Water management is about water rationing. Noise pollution
is about speech surveillance.
Traffic monitoring is about limiting mobility.
And then of course, energy
conservation is all about
rationing heat, electricity, and gasoline.
Another concept
one should be familiar with is called geofencing,
and that's think of it as an invisible
fence around you,
where you cannot go beyond a certain point.
And that will be related to your face
recognition, digital identity, and access control. Your smart
contracts,
Softbrick can turn off your digital currency beyond
a certain point from your house. Our world
has been turned into a digital panopticon.
That means you can be monitored,
analyzed,
managed, and monetized.
Man oh, man.
And I know some people still think this
is just an, you know, an impossibility. It's
it's I think this is the point that
we're trying to make today in in amongst
others is this is happening regardless of which
color you vote for. Like, this is rolling
out either way rapidly as that's the distractionary
point. And I'll I'll include this article from
Derek that I think overlaps with the exact
point. And let's not forget that I think
it was start Space Force and and SpaceX
just entered into a deal with this low
Earth orbit new mesh thing they're doing. Israel
just use a SpaceX rocket to launch their
own, which I think is all part of
the same dot the their low earth orbit
dynamic. This is more spying, more surveillance, more
control, and the same thing I just highlighted.
Also, geofencing.
Fantastic. And here is what Derek was talking
about way ahead of this story, by the
way, 2024,
the NRO, which is this NROs involved with
that same thing. It is the same thing.
I just wanted to show you this again,
thinking about what they just showed you and
how they need the satellite. Well, this again
is,
SpaceX and the star Starlink
rather the satellites
just from 2019,
just do it really rapidly
all the way to basically right now under
2024.
I mean, that terrifies me just in and
of itself, Like, makes me suffocate. It feels
suffocated with, you know, the reality that there's
that many, you know, that that that's the
world that's being built around us. That's what
I'm trying to highlight. So you can go
ahead and comment on that if you like,
and then let's talk about some of those
overlaps with Epstein and the deeper technocratic stuff.
Well, the digital prison is
is one of these
topics that will get you
heavily banned. I had a lot of Freeland
on. We start talking about the space fence
on one of my episodes. I got and
this was couple years ago, and I put
it up on YouTube because I had a
YouTube channel back then. Four hours. It only
took them four hours before the video was
I got a strike. It was thrown off.
I mean, it was kicked off, and it's
it's like, boy, space
I mean, of all the things we could
be talking about, I get it that YouTube
is sensitive. I always find it interesting to
find to to figure out where their pressure
points are.
And and the space fence was one that
and I talked to someone else. I said,
I had a a lot of Freeland on.
We're talking about this. Said, oh, I could've
told you. Don't have her on. They'll get
you immediately. I'm like, well, I'll talk to
her. I wanna talk to her again. I'm
just curious as to why they so if
you're talking about those
topics,
it can be inconvenient
for them. And and I,
you know and and it's not just,
oh, boy. Well, it's this it's the science
and the blending of science and technology.
We've we've always had this this
evolution of, right, as humans. We're we're trying
to get better and better and better and
and hoping that the science and the technology
gets better.
And if it's in the hands of
the common people, fine. Great. But the but
my fear is this evolution of technology and
whose hands it's in, who's financing it, who
ultimately controls it.
And this takes you into,
you know, the I think we learned during
COVID, it's just as easy to buy a
scientist as it is a politician. Right? What
we saw with Fauci or anybody connected to
the the FDA or CDC, you can you
can so
scientists are for sale.
And Jeffrey Epstein bought one. A guy named
Martin Nowak,
doctorate in biochemistry
and mathematics
from the University of Vienna.
He's on record saying, Epstein has changed my
life. Because of him, I feel I can
do anything.
And Epstein floated this guy $30,000,000
at Harvard then visited
him 40 times. And, like, what what was
he
what was he working on? Well,
he wrote a book on natural selection of
cooperation
and a desire for
we're working on evolutionary game theory, population dynamics,
and and and things like that. He
he
he became in 02/2003, he became a professor
of math mathematics and biology at Harvard and
then became the director of this what's known
as the program for evolutionary dynamics, and this
was funded by Epstein. And so you can
you go, yeah. I get it. He runs
blackmail entrapment operations to catch politicians. What is
he doing with evolutionary game theory? Yeah. Why
and I you know, why why is he
so focused on
on whether or not,
you know, exploring the equations of life.
In in Martin Nowak's book in 02/2006, he
writes about evolution with regard to infinite populations
and how AIDS and infectious viruses can play
a role and impact populations.
Oh, really? You don't say. So you're interested
in how
viruses
play roles in population structure and how when
you insert
variables,
what you what that does to the overall
population. And if and Jeffrey Epstein is financed,
it'd be one thing if, like, some
altruistic scientific group with you know, was like,
I'm interested in learning more about this. It
might be something fascinating to to get to
the bottom of and and really see what
happens here. We don't like we do this
and people do that.
But when it's Jeffrey
Epstein
financing this,
you have to go, what is this really
about? Yep. This is about eugenics. This is
about depopulation. This is about a much heavier
thing. So that's why I'm saying, like,
if if the sexual blackmail entrapment brought you
to the party,
brace yourself because it gets so much weirder
than this when it comes to this guy.
And and and don't even get me started
on the,
you know, on on all the
little Sofia robot that he was building with
Ben Gertzel. I mean, this is this is
the dystopian hellscape.
Right. Well, I mean and it's it the
thing that comes to my mind is whether
or not you know? So Epstein was part
of something larger. Like, it it's very clear.
And and not just the intelligent aspect. You
know, there's something a bigger and I again,
also just one part of that network. Right?
Not you know, that's the important thing to
think about. But
the the money aspect of it was probably
just I mean, you could think of it
like he is a vessel
to do all of these things. Right? So
you wonder whether there was money passing through
him, which is easy to do in the
financial world, but the way that they operate,
that just ended up in the hands of
people that needed it. It was he was
just the middle man in a way. You
know? However you look at it, the point
is that they're all involved in these. If
you look at the the body of work
and the the direction it's going in, you
know, they they wanna control life. I mean,
that's what it really comes down to. And
I always point out Charles Lieber, which I've
never I mean, there are connections that you
could make, but it's you know, the point
is
it's more important to highlight, you know, what
Epstein was doing and, you know, the connections
they're in. But Charles Lieber was at Harvard,
and so I think it's important to think
about the idea of the, you know, was
it the virus size robot dynamic he was
working on? He was the lead in nanotechnology.
And right before the COVID dynamic, you know,
there's always different moving parts, and maybe they
don't even overlapped or aware of that. But
the point is that these are all pieces
to where I think this control structure is
going. You know? And the eugenics part of
it is terrifying to me because clearly they
have a a opinion who is you know,
it it's a supremacist perspective. That's what eugenics
is. And so these people are guiding a
lot of our policy, and it's I'm talking
about in particular, like, the US government, which
they overlap before was where even the Nazis
brought that up to. You know? Israel is
very much in the same mindset. So it
just concerns me where this goes and how
they see that as they're making situations that
make our resources by that. You know? Yeah.
And if we wanna make just a a
a direct connection between these guys,
we've got, Epstein's
partner, Ben Goertzel, who was the head of,
he's from OpenCog Foundation, and he was the
guy they were building the little Sofia robot
with. This is a robot that is is
not the Sofia,
robot that we saw in Saudi Arabia, the
the six foot tall robot. This is a
small 18 inch plush doll
that's loaded with,
cameras in the eyes and,
microphones and geotagged and all that stuff, and
it's reporting all this information back. But it's
for emotional support with little girls, right, from
eight ages eight and up. Jeffrey Epstein financing
Ben Goertzel to do this. Ben Goertzel runs
he's the he's
the director of research for
the Machine Intelligence
Research Institute.
And you go, oh, okay. He's the director
of research. Well, who's on on the advisory
board of that? Peter Thiel.
Peter Thiel. So the guy that Epstein is
financing to make little Sofia robot dolls for
children
is the head of technology for a foundation
that whose board member is Peter Thiel. So
these guys are all
connected in in one way or another. I
mean, it you don't have to go to
six degrees of separation with these guys. It's
one degree or maybe two at most.
But, but
but even Thiel is linked up in into
all of this. So what that guy was
talking about, a digital Panopticon,
he's correct. This is
this is what's happening and,
being you know, the the prison is being
built around us while the vast majority of
people
enthusiastically cheerlead it, I suppose.
Yeah. And and the point, Duarte, again, is
that that's why
the the effort by the the main coverage
is kind of making Epstein kind of the
end all be all. Right? He was the
one doing it. He's in control. He's responsible,
which is not the case. I mean, whether
he clearly had a lot of influence and
power, but that's the same point. Is it
so who is driving this? Right? Where is
this coming to? You know? That's the teal
aspect. That's the higher level that we don't
that is what the actual deep state is
in my opinion. The shadow government, the the
unelected power structure that's never moving, never elected,
never leaving, you know, that they have influence
over all of this. And I think we've
long since been under that rule. You know?
And so today, they're just trying to kind
of build out this new variation to get
you looking in a different direction as they
kind of cement in that control going forward
is what we've been talking about. You know?
So it is it is I mean, that
really just comes up. You know? There's a
lot of other topics we could get into,
but it really does come down to all
driving in this direction for a lot of
different parts. And I do think though to
end on a slightly positive note, there's a
lot of people out there even involved in
other parts of the world. Not to say
that any government we should be listening to
or trusting, but that there are parts in
the world that I still think want control
over their people, like any government does, but
it doesn't want that same doesn't want that
outcome. Sort of like we saw with the
split during, like, the you know, there are
people even in our government that sort of,
I don't think, wanted the kind of world
that was being built, but they still wanna
control over our lives. And so you get
those kind of deviations. But I'm saying, like,
from there are people that seem to wanna
stand up and stop this. And I think
we need to start leaning into that, start
calling this stuff out, and
very much take advantage of the moment right
now where people are finally starting to ask
these questions. You know, shows like this will
only help. So thanks for being here, brother.
Yeah.
Yeah. Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.
It it kind of reminds me of the
Solzhenitsyn
quote about, like, you know, you should have
been shooting these guys when they were coming
to get you a long time ago. You
know, he's talking about the the people creeping
down into your, into the basements. You should
have been beating them over the heads. You
know, there should have been eight of you
down there with clubs beating those guys. Because
if you don't,
while they're building this digital prison system,
they will eventually get it finished or at
least finish to the point where where enough
people are under under the thumb.
And,
it'll be a different world. So it it
I think it's important for us
to dig into these topics and recognize them,
not necessarily
obsessed with them to the point where we
ruin our own lives. Right? Like,
understand the magnitude of it, but don't become
overwhelmed by it.
And,
and talk to people who we can reach,
you know, that not everybody is reachable. But
the people who you think you can
you can get,
ask them some questions. Hey. What do you
make of this stuff? What do you make
of this digital prison that's being built? What
about what do you make of the this,
this, or this? And and hand a story
over to them. Go grab a story off
activist post and say, hey. Here you go.
I've I've I've I read this today. What
do you make of this? And get your
friends to start thinking.
Yes. Because
we're talking about it because we're interested in
it.
So many people out there aren't talking about
it. They might be interested in it, but
they don't know to be interested in it
because they don't even know what's happening. Because
it's not the sort of thing that gets,
you know, advertised by the,
you know, by the mainstream media. Hey. Look
at what we're doing. We're building a control
grid to, keep you guys,
under our thumb forever, and it's almost done.
Well, that that conversation isn't gonna happen until
it's too late. But so it's up to
us. We do have a responsibility.
We play a role in this to have
the conversations and talk about it and work
it out and move ourselves out of the
way of this to the extent that we
can. And I always appreciate you having me
on to,
to to go as deep as we can
go.
Absolutely. And we look forward to one coming
up next month, guys. And I'll end with
the point that you kind of on the
point that came to my mind about what
you were saying about kind of doing you
know, leaning in too much or becoming obsessive.
You know, it it's something that I've I've
I've struggle with with all that's going on
and how, you know, the this is what
I care about is balance in all things.
You know? I have it written on my
wall. It's like, you know, you gotta take
time to get the hell outside and to
put your feet on the ground and to
find
something outside of just obsessing over, which again,
there's important moments to I maybe obsess is
the wrong word, but, you know, to just
take all your time and put it into
this. I you know, we and, again, I
struggle with this. Like, I am forcing myself
to try to break away, but balance in
all things, it's the it's one of the
most important things in life in my opinion.
So, yes, it's important, but make sure that
you're not losing yourself to it. Because that's
why I talk about people that, you know,
who but it's it's it's almost like a
a a good fault. You know, you care
too much. But then I've worked with people
over the years that, you know, came out
hot. You know, they wanted to change the
world, and, you know, six months later, they
just I can't do this anymore. You know,
I get it. It's hard, but that's the
idea. So balance in all things, guys. Take
that with you today and get outside. So
thank you, Charlie, and I'll be seeing you
next week or next next month, brother.
Thanks, Ray.
Everybody out there question everything. Come to your
own conclusions.
Stay vigilant.