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We're gonna be discussing the idea of the

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What an illusion of choice does, it establishes

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the baseline assumptions that nobody questions.

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This is part of the fifth generation warfare

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that we've talked about. Voting for the lesser

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of two evils, definitely an emotional, psychological trap

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that people are in. You're cheerleading for an

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insane ideology

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because you think you're winning. The role we

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have is media. How do we help everybody

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understand this is theater, and you need to

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get back into the real world? If you're

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opposed to the agenda, you should oppose it

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regardless of who's selling it to you.

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Welcome to the Independent Media Alliance. We're here

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again today to discuss quite a few different

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things, but we're gonna start with discussing kind

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of the recent steps, continual steps in the

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direction of the building control grid and, you

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know, what else is happening that's distracting us

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from that and and the different kind of

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moving parts that are all coming together in

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front of us. Catherine, Steve, and Charlie here

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joining today. Let's, let's kick it off. Anybody

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wanna say hello? Let's kick it off with

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Catherine giving us her, updated points on where

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you know, what we what we talked about

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last time on the steps and then following

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up today into what steps have happened since

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then. And, go ahead and kick us off,

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Catherine. How are you?

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we've been collecting a collection of the

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what the current administration is doing to build

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the control grid. And it's definitely accelerating, and

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it's accelerating with,

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the big beautiful bill, which was filled

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with money and and provision for the surveillance

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grid in The United States,

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you know, very much sold to you under

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the guise of immigration. But,

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when you integrate it into

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what's happening, it's

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an enormous

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lift to the sort of the building of

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the control grid. Derek,

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did a great article that is one that

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we've linked from the collection.

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And one of the reasons we're updating this

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collection every week is literally there's so much

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happening. I even I can't keep it all,

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and go through the list. It's quite remarkable.

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Brian, I'd love to discuss today is I've

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you know, as we've been watching what's been

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rolling out in The Middle East, we're watching

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a lot of control and surveillance

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technology used in The Middle East, including, you

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know, to engineer the killbox.

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that implements

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all the way from surveillance

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participation through the financial and legal system all

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the way up into the kill box. And

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it's very much an integrated system using integrated

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but but it it was such that,

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Jeremy Nell of Germ Warfare does our cartoons

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and he made a cartoon,

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that sort of reminded me sometime how I

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feel. I told you earlier, when I I

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keep walking through airports listening to Christy Noem

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it we went from the construction workers or

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lizard people to AI as your best friend,

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like, for all of the propaganda on the

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walls, and it was just, I mean, wildly

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dystopian.

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of of events, many of which are important

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and because a change is accelerating.

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meantime, you're watching that digital control grid sneak

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looking at here is the a person sitting

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at the bar fixated on the screen next

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to him that says digital control grid, and

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then 99%

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of the rest of the bar is crowded

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on one side looking at a screen packed

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with wars, Trump, politics, you know, and that's

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the general entendance that we're being distracted. And

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know, it doesn't mean that wars and different

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things are irrelevant. Clearly, they are very relevant,

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but that's why usually the best manipulations involve

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the truth, you know, and they're using that

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to drive us away from the obvious.

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currently where the control grid is and and

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where that's going? Well, I it's piggybacking on

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what Catherine said about the airport, I used

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to think that the worst part of the

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airport experience was that you would be force

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fed CNN while you were waiting for your

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flight. But, apparently, now you get Christy Noem

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on top of that chilling for real ID.

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I mean, we've just we watched this,

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expand rapidly over the last couple of years.

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the the COVID lockdowns

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got to sit by themselves and get comfortable

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with the idea

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of isolated,

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digitally provided life

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and, all of your groceries, your meals came

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all of your information came through your device.

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touch grass. You weren't allowed to go, you

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know,

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they they were ticketing people for being on

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or surfing, you know, stuff like that. Like,

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if you're by yourself in the middle of

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the ocean, you're gonna give the fish COVID,

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really? Is that what you're concerned about? Like,

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no. This is a that there's an obvious

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agenda being played out. And now that you've

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softened the populace up, dumbed them down, and

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have them desperate

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for some sort of connection, you can hand

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them all of the AI chatbots,

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which gets them really used to the idea

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of governance being done in the exact same

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manner.

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that's involved in this is manifesting in people

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trying to marry their chatbot

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or people trying to,

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you know, seriously think about uploading their consciousness

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in some way, shape, or form, which is

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preposterous. That's the way you upload your consciousness

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is when you go to heaven. Like, that's

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the plain and simple.

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wheels fall off of government is part of

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iteration of government is so deeply flawed with

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human beings because human

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beings bring their own prejudices

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and desires and wants into it that maybe

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we should consider the concept of a government

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run by, say, computers that could be

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programmed to be fair and balanced and and

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his show? Right. I can't believe I'm saying

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it, but we need AI government. That's what

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he said on his show to the largest

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podcast on the incident

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world. That's a real bad idea.

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say it, and it feels like maybe we're

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walked into it that Mhmm. You know, you

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throw your hands up and go, anything's gotta

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be better than what we've currently got. Sounds

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like US sanctions. Auction out here.

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That's the logic of the US government. Right?

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They push you in a place where you're

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vulnerable, where you're, you know, almost where you'll

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accept even though you know it's a problem,

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what they're presenting because it feels better than

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what you're currently living in, you know. But

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let me ask you guys a question. In

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in a sense of like the COVID nineteen

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time frame, you know, there's a lot of

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theories around what that was, what they tried

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to accomplish. But Steve made this an excellent

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point that I think we've all considered, you

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or in whole that what that was was

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just a primus for this massive shift into

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the digital control grid and the future. You

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a lot of ways. What do you think?

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the going direct reset.

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So Debbie Lerman just I don't know if

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you've seen her new book. It's called The

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Deep State Goes Viral. And she does a

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very good job

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of proving what Sasha Latypovic and Catherine Watt

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have already proved, which is it was a

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military intelligence operation.

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detail. And what you see is,

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you know, this was a group of people

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who were basically authorized and promoted by the

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military and intelligence community,

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and they couldn't care less what the scientists

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or doctors said. That had nothing

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that that bore no relevance to what they

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political result, it was very successful

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at producing enormous

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political and economic centralization,

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move of assets off of Main Street into

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Wall Street, and it was very successful if

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you look at it as a part of

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the going direct reset. And we know the

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going direct reset was voted on in August

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or or or reviewed by the central bankers

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in August 2019.

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The Fed comes back, starts intervening in the

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in the repo market. And then by March,

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you have the, you know, the the the

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COVID nineteen operation basically implementing many of the

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things that you wanted to do.

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the ongoing,

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you know, I call it a financial coup.

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blown coup, but it's just part of the

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coup. And this the thing that Charlie was

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describing

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of,

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of getting you to want certain kinds of

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changes in government.

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I mean, literally, what we've seen

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since the beginning of the latest administration is

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you have a group of people, go to

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Washington, steal all the data you need for

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social credit system, and then leave.

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of privatizing government, whether you're moving the functions

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corporate contractors or you're just stealing the data

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and doing it all privately.

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You know, the people who got the data

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because xAI,

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you know, do Doge moves it out,

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xAI then does a deal with Palantir, and

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then Palantir gets huge contracts from

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from the US government, another huge round.

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Alright. And BlackRock

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funds XAI. And, you know, you can that

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which is becoming a point that is, like,

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suddenly coming out, but it's been around for

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a long time. It's publicly discussed. You know,

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you can see all the or or even

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more so before that that XAI was a

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DARPA program just like total information awareness became

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Palantir. And you can just see this kind

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of the pieces being set in front of

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us. But, yeah, I I think this is

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It kind of it all It's There's a

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lot of moving parts, but it does seem

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like the answer is yes. That this was

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all kind of a way to prime us

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for what they knew we would largely not

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be okay with or rather force us into

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it as you're highlighting in financial ways. But

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I think it's pretty clear that this was

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something that was trying to prime us for

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what's coming next, you know. So can I

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can I ask you something about the, the

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genius bill, Catherine, and what your thoughts are

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on that? Sure. And what conversation around what

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that is and whether it means what people

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think it does. So you mentioned that in

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your in your list about the digital part

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of it.

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So I think the stablecoins

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So I've read the Genius Act, but,

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I haven't seen the final thing that passed,

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but I'm assuming there's not a big difference.

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It still has to go to the house

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for the state. It's called the stable act

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in the house, and they still have to

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be reconciled and then signed in in the

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fall. But I'm assuming that will happen by

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fall. And what

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what you're seeing with the stablecoins

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is there is a plan underway

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to basically

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market through the mobile payment systems

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to every country in the world where you

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can get in on the mobile payment systems,

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which presumably is not every country,

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to get people off their local currency and

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into the dollar.

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And, it's much more subtle. You won't see

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it in the Genius Act, but I believe

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part of this

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push will be to unleash an amazing amount

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of credit, including farm credit for farmers,

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all around the world to get them that's

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part of getting them off the local currency

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and onto stablecoins.

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What this will do if it works is

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will create a huge new market for treasuries

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because stablecoins are fully collateralized. So presumably, a

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lot of the money is gonna go into

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either bank deposits or,

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treasury bills,

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but

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is also gonna unleash, you know, I don't

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my guess, and this is a guess,

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this brings a whole new meaning to the

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to the expression helicopter.

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And the potential for

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a dramatic inflationary impact that's gonna rock the

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world of the American people and people all

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around the world is extraordinary.

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And and, you know, it will certainly rock

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the American people. If you look at a

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country where they get off the local currency

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and get onto the American currency,

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you know, it will really rock them. One

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of the big questions, and I don't know

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the answer, is the is the new FedNow

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system

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designed to work with stablecoins? Because if it

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and if it is, we know they've been

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negotiating with Ripple and Charlie, you may know

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that one of you guys may know this.

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If it's designed to work with the FedNow

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system,

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you're literally seeing the Fed,

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is gonna sort of

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basically be

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running a much bigger part of the market

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share of the global currency market.

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It it's quite extraordinary.

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Now has anybody seen the perfectly dreadful movie

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g 20?

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No. I don't think so. Like people who

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are far too intelligent

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and far too busy to to ever go

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see a movie called g 20. But let

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me tell you, it's, we recommended on a

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movie of the week. Here's the story line.

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The story line Viola Davis plays the, The

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US president, and she's a former marine.

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And her big platform to to promote to

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the g twenty

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is, she wants to

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launch stable coin around the world and make

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credit available to all the farmers, thus bringing

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democracy.

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Okay? Interesting. And everybody's skeptical of this plan.

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They see it as self serving, America promoting

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the dollar.

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She goes to the g twenty meeting in

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South Africa, and I would like to point

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that the g twenty meeting this year is

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in November in South Africa.

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She goes to South Africa. Another crypto group

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are terrorists who are trying to shut down

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the g 20, you know, adopting the Stablecoin

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plan. So you you have the pump and

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dumpers on one side versus the Stablecoin people

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on the other.

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Needless to say, the president wins the day

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and and g twenty realizes Stablecoin.

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They wanna support her in the Stablecoin plan.

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Right. There he goes. There it is.

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Now it's so funny because

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it is in in my opinion, before I

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saw the movie, I I happened to watch

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this because I I came upon it on

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a on a long, long, very long flight.

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But,

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I was stunned because this is the plan.

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I mean, this is what I was saying

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was the plan until I saw the movie,

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and I went, oh my god. Somebody started

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two or three years ago making this to

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help market the plan.

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Right?

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And that's always unbelievable. Yeah. So the predictive

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programming of it. But, I mean, just the

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cartoonish nature of that where they're dressed and

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the gun, like, it's just so it's just

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so Yeah. It's perfect where we are in

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the country. Wrote about I wrote about 10

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jokes immediately. I did. I did. I can't

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say any of them, but I wrote 10.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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Well, you know, and it's funny. You look

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back, you can see these different movies that

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prime you for these things. You know? Like,

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the exact kind of, like you know? There's

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so many and I think the whole point

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of it, as always, is that they put

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it out like this. So when it starts

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to actually become to be clear, then people

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go, oh, you got that from that movie.

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You know? Like, it's dismissible. Like, oh, that's

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just that thing you saw on x files

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or whatever. It's like, oh, well, you know?

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So did I did I did I did

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I ever tell you about the Soprano TV

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show story?

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I don't think so. Okay. So so from

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from from many years, I'm trying to warn

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people about the mortgage fraud and trying to

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warn them about the kind of fraud that's

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going on at HUD,

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including the basic fact pattern fraud that's like

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the base of all mortgage fraud. And in

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fact, it's the fraud that destroyed my neighborhood

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when I was a kid or destroyed the

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housing values of my neighborhood. Anyway,

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so I had this wonderful roommate from college

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who,

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because I was dealing with so much physical

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harassment, she came to Washington and and was

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my roommate at my house for a while

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just to help protect me.

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Anyway, so so she leaves and I I

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give up on Washington. I move out. I

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leave Washington.

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And then a couple years later, I'm living

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in Tennessee. I'm driving down the highway, and

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I get a phone call from her.

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And she says, Fitz, have you seen the

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new Soprano TV show about HUD fraud?

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And they had done a series of four

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HUD frauds, and and and they were very

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good, and they really sort of nailed the

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fact pattern. It was very you know, whoever

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wrote the script really knew what they were

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doing. And, anyway, so I said, yes. I've

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seen it. And she says, well, I guess

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what you've been saying is true.

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I said, wait a minute.

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I'm the I'm the former assistant secretary of

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housing. I'm the former lead financial adviser at

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the Department of Housing and Urban Development. But

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you didn't believe me until it was on

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the Soprano TV show. And she said, that's

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right.

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So that's when I saw version of that.

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So I said, in America,

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fact is fiction and fiction is fact. And

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that's why when I saw g 20, I

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said, oh, maybe my theory,

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you know, is is really

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the plan.

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That's just terrifying. You know? I mean, that's

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a So, Steve, I I'm dying to see

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your 10 jokes. You can put them in

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the chat. We don't Well, when when when

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you come on my show

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and we do, you know, we we do

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yeah. In front in front of the I'm

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just you know, I'm trying to be respectful

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to everyone who may be listening

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and wanna ruffle any feathers.

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Ryan is very distinguished, so he's gonna have

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a more distinguished audience. I have significantly less

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distinguished. Yeah. That's true. He's undeniable.

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Yeah.

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Well, then it's a perfect time to talk

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about Epstein.

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Yeah. Most definitely. Well, before we go into

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Epstein, though, I wanted to there's one point

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that I wanted to show that I thought

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was interesting that we could discuss that goes

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in the the like, not just the many

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obvious

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clear developments in the direction of this, but

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the the normalization of it through, like, Maha

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and stuff. And one of them was this

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interesting development. Right? The the wearable point from

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RFK Jr, which I think overlaps, you know,

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all these are moving parts to sort of

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the control dynamic, the social credit part of

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it. But not just that he put said

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that this was the next kind of, you

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know, the focal point. But then I saw

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it was interesting that that, Tucker Carlson,

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you can see in the in his show,

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it says, brought to you by levels, which

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levels is about wearables. And it you get

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seed funding from Anderson and Horowitz and, you

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know, Twitter people. Interesting point and all that.

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I saw just thought it was interesting to

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start that conversation about the wearable point, the

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direction of the so, you know, the the

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tech and where it goes So AI. So

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this

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this thing that you, you know, that, this

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tweet

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is of an article by Josh Stumman. Here's

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what happened. So

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Kennedy in the in testimony

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says his vision for America is in four

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years, everybody's wearing wearables, which means,

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you know,

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really moving it, making sure everybody gets into

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00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:19,259
the surveillance system.

538
00:19:20,375 --> 00:19:22,875
And and and so there's a huge pushback,

539
00:19:22,934 --> 00:19:24,554
one of which was me,

540
00:19:24,934 --> 00:19:26,855
who said that he was the Judas goat

541
00:19:26,855 --> 00:19:28,875
leading everybody into the control grid.

542
00:19:29,255 --> 00:19:31,974
And then Charles Eisenstein, who's wonderful, who used

543
00:19:31,974 --> 00:19:33,595
to be his chief speech writer,

544
00:19:34,250 --> 00:19:36,329
came out with the defense of what of

545
00:19:36,329 --> 00:19:37,470
what Bobby said,

546
00:19:37,849 --> 00:19:40,730
at which point Josh Stahman wrote the piece

547
00:19:40,730 --> 00:19:42,970
that you're pointing to in that tweet, which

548
00:19:42,970 --> 00:19:45,529
is excellent. It's a substack, and he talks

549
00:19:45,529 --> 00:19:46,029
about

550
00:19:46,625 --> 00:19:50,625
why wearables is part of moving into the

551
00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,105
Internet of bodies and how dangerous it is.

552
00:19:53,105 --> 00:19:53,605
Mhmm.

553
00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:56,065
And he does an excellent job. It's very

554
00:19:56,065 --> 00:19:58,085
well done, and it's very detailed.

555
00:19:58,559 --> 00:20:00,960
And it helps you really see the control

556
00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:01,779
grid and why

557
00:20:02,079 --> 00:20:03,380
wearables are so dangerous.

558
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,220
Just your opinion.

559
00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:07,359
Any of you, all of you? Do you

560
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,039
think R. F. King Junior is aware of

561
00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:11,085
what this where this is going? Not whether

562
00:20:11,085 --> 00:20:12,845
he's blackmailed or something behind it, but just

563
00:20:12,845 --> 00:20:14,785
that he's aware. Yeah? I agree.

564
00:20:15,325 --> 00:20:17,404
I mean, it's absolutely know where it's going.

565
00:20:17,484 --> 00:20:18,544
Spent too much time.

566
00:20:19,005 --> 00:20:19,505
Right.

567
00:20:22,444 --> 00:20:23,804
It's true. You know? Yeah. Like

568
00:20:25,809 --> 00:20:27,570
No. I mean, dumb guy like, the dumb

569
00:20:27,570 --> 00:20:29,169
guy logic of that, like, you know what

570
00:20:29,169 --> 00:20:30,630
I mean? Like, that applies

571
00:20:31,170 --> 00:20:34,369
on so many levels, including the Epstein thing,

572
00:20:34,369 --> 00:20:36,849
which we're, you know, gonna get into. But,

573
00:20:36,849 --> 00:20:39,009
yeah, if I'm aware of it, if I'm

574
00:20:39,009 --> 00:20:39,830
sitting here

575
00:20:40,304 --> 00:20:41,605
in Mill Valley

576
00:20:42,144 --> 00:20:43,125
behind a computer

577
00:20:43,664 --> 00:20:45,904
and I'm aware of it, the people who

578
00:20:45,904 --> 00:20:48,404
have had access to all of the information

579
00:20:48,625 --> 00:20:50,384
that, you know, we only glean from through

580
00:20:50,384 --> 00:20:51,605
what we can get publicly,

581
00:20:52,940 --> 00:20:55,019
They they know. They know, and they're lying,

582
00:20:55,019 --> 00:20:56,720
and they're lying because it benefits

583
00:20:57,099 --> 00:20:58,619
them. Yeah. Or he's paid not to know

584
00:20:58,619 --> 00:21:00,539
or, you know, something along those lines. Yeah.

585
00:21:00,539 --> 00:21:02,140
Yeah. Again, the the the weather you know?

586
00:21:02,140 --> 00:21:04,380
Again, blackmail is is something that's certainly possible,

587
00:21:04,380 --> 00:21:05,819
but I think it's irrelevant to whether or

588
00:21:05,819 --> 00:21:07,180
not we're going that direction, which is the

589
00:21:07,180 --> 00:21:09,535
point. You know? Because it's clear. Right. But

590
00:21:09,535 --> 00:21:12,495
here's the thing. What what Bobby did was

591
00:21:12,495 --> 00:21:14,095
he wanted to go in because he wants

592
00:21:14,255 --> 00:21:15,855
you know, there's an inside game where you

593
00:21:15,855 --> 00:21:18,095
try and move the machinery from inside, and

594
00:21:18,095 --> 00:21:19,775
there is an outside game. We play an

595
00:21:19,775 --> 00:21:21,615
outside game. We don't wanna play an inside

596
00:21:21,615 --> 00:21:23,795
game. Bobby's trying to play an inside game.

597
00:21:24,250 --> 00:21:26,829
And the problem is, you know, we've seen

598
00:21:27,369 --> 00:21:28,970
he he tried to choose a really good

599
00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:30,109
person for FDA.

600
00:21:30,410 --> 00:21:32,429
That nomination had to get pulled.

601
00:21:32,809 --> 00:21:35,529
So so he's getting blocked and stopped, and

602
00:21:35,529 --> 00:21:37,470
and it's impossible to tell,

603
00:21:38,009 --> 00:21:38,669
you know,

604
00:21:40,954 --> 00:21:43,515
exactly why he's doing the compromise he's doing.

605
00:21:43,515 --> 00:21:45,434
But if you look at the last sort

606
00:21:45,434 --> 00:21:47,375
of series of four or five compromises,

607
00:21:48,075 --> 00:21:50,174
they've been very difficult.

608
00:21:50,794 --> 00:21:51,194
And,

609
00:21:51,595 --> 00:21:54,539
and and so and part of the danger

610
00:21:54,539 --> 00:21:57,519
is the administration has made it clear. They

611
00:21:57,660 --> 00:21:59,039
want mRNA technology.

612
00:21:59,819 --> 00:22:02,960
Right. The reality is also very clear. MRNA

613
00:22:03,179 --> 00:22:03,679
technology

614
00:22:04,460 --> 00:22:07,355
kills people. We just published an interview with

615
00:22:07,355 --> 00:22:08,335
Susanna Humphreys.

616
00:22:08,714 --> 00:22:10,634
It's one of the top sort of people

617
00:22:10,634 --> 00:22:12,335
writing about the history of vaccines,

618
00:22:12,714 --> 00:22:15,034
and it's all about the mysterious ingredients in

619
00:22:15,034 --> 00:22:17,855
mRNA technology. I mean, you have nanoparticles

620
00:22:18,315 --> 00:22:19,214
in this stuff.

621
00:22:19,690 --> 00:22:22,250
They come together in your body. They aggregate,

622
00:22:22,250 --> 00:22:24,090
and they create things that look like circuit

623
00:22:24,090 --> 00:22:26,349
boards. I mean, the whole thing is

624
00:22:26,650 --> 00:22:29,049
in complete violation of informed consent because you've

625
00:22:29,049 --> 00:22:30,269
got secret ingredients

626
00:22:30,730 --> 00:22:32,190
that are clearly not natural.

627
00:22:32,554 --> 00:22:33,994
And if you look at the number of

628
00:22:33,994 --> 00:22:35,375
people who are dying,

629
00:22:36,634 --> 00:22:39,294
with circulation problems, blood clots,

630
00:22:39,914 --> 00:22:41,454
heart attacks, strokes,

631
00:22:41,914 --> 00:22:44,015
I mean, this stuff is a killer. And

632
00:22:44,315 --> 00:22:47,029
literally, we have thousands of of children every

633
00:22:47,029 --> 00:22:49,190
day still taking this even though it serves

634
00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:51,049
no medical purpose. Right.

635
00:22:51,429 --> 00:22:54,710
So so this administration, whether it's HHS and

636
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:57,429
and various people or the president who within

637
00:22:57,429 --> 00:22:58,730
three days of the inauguration

638
00:22:59,464 --> 00:23:01,805
came out with a huge Stargate initiative,

639
00:23:02,585 --> 00:23:04,684
you know, promoting mRNA vaccines.

640
00:23:05,224 --> 00:23:07,065
You know? And and the president keeps trying

641
00:23:07,065 --> 00:23:08,904
to say he accomplished great things with the

642
00:23:08,904 --> 00:23:12,025
mRNA vaccines during the pandemic, and he's, you

643
00:23:12,025 --> 00:23:14,105
know, he's literally getting booed off the stage

644
00:23:14,105 --> 00:23:14,640
for it.

645
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,099
So so they as a political matter,

646
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,220
they are absolutely committed

647
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:23,619
to poisoning Americans.

648
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:26,480
And think about that in in in compare

649
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,320
in contrast to the fact that they must

650
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,299
know how unpopular

651
00:23:29,714 --> 00:23:31,954
unpopular that is with their core base of

652
00:23:31,954 --> 00:23:33,794
support. So, I mean, every time I think

653
00:23:33,794 --> 00:23:34,694
of that overlap,

654
00:23:34,994 --> 00:23:36,755
I, you know, I go, okay. Why then?

655
00:23:36,755 --> 00:23:38,035
You know? Is how were they you know,

656
00:23:38,035 --> 00:23:39,394
is that because of a foreign country? Is

657
00:23:39,394 --> 00:23:40,994
that because of some internal lobby? I mean,

658
00:23:40,994 --> 00:23:42,515
or is it just that they don't care?

659
00:23:42,515 --> 00:23:44,294
It just it's such an obvious contradiction.

660
00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:47,850
Right. But the American government does not have

661
00:23:48,470 --> 00:23:49,529
financial sovereignty,

662
00:23:49,990 --> 00:23:52,090
and it does not have information sovereignty.

663
00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:55,750
And and if you look at, you know,

664
00:23:55,750 --> 00:23:57,590
how many people in the government and in

665
00:23:57,590 --> 00:23:59,450
the Congress have dual citizenship

666
00:24:00,345 --> 00:24:01,964
and are loyal elsewhere.

667
00:24:02,505 --> 00:24:04,424
Right. I mean, we're talking about a government

668
00:24:04,424 --> 00:24:06,664
that doesn't have sovereignty. So the question always

669
00:24:06,664 --> 00:24:08,204
is is who's giving the orders

670
00:24:08,585 --> 00:24:10,424
and what do they want, and why are

671
00:24:10,424 --> 00:24:11,944
they do it? Is this just a way

672
00:24:11,944 --> 00:24:14,099
to build the Internet of bodies? Are we

673
00:24:14,179 --> 00:24:16,500
looking at a full blown bioweapon that's a

674
00:24:16,500 --> 00:24:17,799
depopulation plan?

675
00:24:18,099 --> 00:24:19,000
That's the question.

676
00:24:19,619 --> 00:24:21,460
Yeah. I mean and it just to add

677
00:24:21,460 --> 00:24:21,619
to

678
00:24:22,419 --> 00:24:23,400
go ahead. Go ahead.

679
00:24:24,179 --> 00:24:25,559
Well, two months ago,

680
00:24:26,419 --> 00:24:28,259
Rasmussen did a poll and I think said

681
00:24:28,259 --> 00:24:30,545
fifty percent or more of the people polled

682
00:24:30,545 --> 00:24:32,224
knew somebody had been killed by the COVID

683
00:24:32,224 --> 00:24:32,724
shot.

684
00:24:33,424 --> 00:24:34,704
I've heard so much more than that, I

685
00:24:34,704 --> 00:24:35,204
imagine.

686
00:24:36,224 --> 00:24:36,724
Well,

687
00:24:37,265 --> 00:24:39,204
if just, you know, because I spend

688
00:24:39,664 --> 00:24:41,904
basically five months a year, two and a

689
00:24:41,904 --> 00:24:43,410
half in the fall, two and a half

690
00:24:43,410 --> 00:24:45,350
in the spring driving around America.

691
00:24:45,890 --> 00:24:47,890
And what I will tell you is everywhere

692
00:24:47,890 --> 00:24:48,549
you go,

693
00:24:48,930 --> 00:24:52,070
people have stories of earlier sudden deaths

694
00:24:52,610 --> 00:24:53,590
and it's everywhere

695
00:24:54,210 --> 00:24:57,009
and, and everybody's experiencing it. Now, some people

696
00:24:57,009 --> 00:24:59,105
don't want to face what's causing it,

697
00:24:59,404 --> 00:25:01,005
but there are a lot more people who

698
00:25:01,005 --> 00:25:01,825
faced it.

699
00:25:02,204 --> 00:25:03,025
Yep. And,

700
00:25:03,805 --> 00:25:06,845
they know. And and here's the thing, you

701
00:25:06,845 --> 00:25:09,125
don't have to persuade every anybody what caused

702
00:25:09,125 --> 00:25:11,424
it because ultimately, the deaths will persuade

703
00:25:12,049 --> 00:25:14,289
everyone who's willing to listen to something other

704
00:25:14,289 --> 00:25:15,029
than entrainment.

705
00:25:16,289 --> 00:25:18,049
I and I still argue. I think that's

706
00:25:18,049 --> 00:25:20,049
a vast majority of people today. Like, I

707
00:25:20,049 --> 00:25:21,410
think that that she was dropped. I think

708
00:25:21,410 --> 00:25:23,009
we're and they're just trying to maintain the

709
00:25:23,009 --> 00:25:24,690
narrative just like they are with Israel and

710
00:25:24,690 --> 00:25:25,924
a lot of other things. I I don't

711
00:25:25,924 --> 00:25:26,924
know if you guys agree with that, but

712
00:25:26,924 --> 00:25:28,884
I think mo even on the left, you

713
00:25:29,044 --> 00:25:30,644
what was the last number we heard from?

714
00:25:30,644 --> 00:25:31,444
I think it was,

715
00:25:32,085 --> 00:25:34,724
McCarrie, that it was something like 11%, like,

716
00:25:34,724 --> 00:25:36,565
a really no low number of the first

717
00:25:36,565 --> 00:25:37,065
responders

718
00:25:37,365 --> 00:25:39,044
are taking any of these shots right now.

719
00:25:39,044 --> 00:25:40,644
So, I mean, even left and right, people

720
00:25:40,644 --> 00:25:42,460
are like, no way. The the evidence is

721
00:25:42,460 --> 00:25:44,140
out, and I think that's profound. It shows

722
00:25:44,140 --> 00:25:46,000
you the the fracturing of the whole control.

723
00:25:49,980 --> 00:25:52,059
Well, but No. I mean, I as as

724
00:25:52,059 --> 00:25:52,779
we're realize

725
00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:54,559
you go.

726
00:25:55,265 --> 00:25:57,024
Okay. I I just I I agree with

727
00:25:57,024 --> 00:25:58,384
that, it says. I mean, we talk about

728
00:25:58,384 --> 00:26:00,065
it all the time, Ryan, but there's,

729
00:26:01,184 --> 00:26:03,744
the thing that that gets me is that

730
00:26:03,744 --> 00:26:06,644
there's such a a wide net cast in

731
00:26:06,704 --> 00:26:09,684
the mainstream alternative media apparatus

732
00:26:10,399 --> 00:26:12,799
that serves as, you know, this sort of,

733
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:13,299
like,

734
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,220
catchall for anybody trying to escape,

735
00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:18,500
you know,

736
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:19,619
just completely

737
00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:22,339
manufactured media and get into reality.

738
00:26:22,799 --> 00:26:24,880
And, we were talking about it on Union

739
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,015
of the Wanted last night where, you know,

740
00:26:27,015 --> 00:26:29,115
you get this period of about

741
00:26:30,055 --> 00:26:31,434
eighteen to twenty months

742
00:26:31,894 --> 00:26:34,375
after someone comes into office and before the

743
00:26:34,375 --> 00:26:34,875
midterms

744
00:26:35,335 --> 00:26:35,835
where

745
00:26:36,455 --> 00:26:39,095
reality sinks in in disillusion with government and

746
00:26:39,095 --> 00:26:41,150
the speed of the, various, you know, okay.

747
00:26:41,150 --> 00:26:43,170
Well, it is a uni party after all,

748
00:26:43,390 --> 00:26:46,289
sinks in and people start to migrate towards

749
00:26:46,430 --> 00:26:46,930
us.

750
00:26:47,869 --> 00:26:48,349
And,

751
00:26:48,670 --> 00:26:49,730
that's when that

752
00:26:50,109 --> 00:26:51,410
dragnet gets activated

753
00:26:51,869 --> 00:26:53,809
where you can try and, you know,

754
00:26:54,695 --> 00:26:57,414
mainline the hopium to the masses in terms

755
00:26:57,414 --> 00:26:59,674
of, okay. Well, it's five d chess because

756
00:26:59,974 --> 00:27:01,815
Trump has the Epstein list now, and he's

757
00:27:01,815 --> 00:27:03,575
gonna use it against the deep state. That's

758
00:27:03,575 --> 00:27:05,275
what Alex Jones was telling people.

759
00:27:06,390 --> 00:27:08,070
Or, you know, okay. Well, this might not

760
00:27:08,070 --> 00:27:09,589
look good, but, you know, let's not lose

761
00:27:09,589 --> 00:27:11,349
hope patriots and that kind of thing about

762
00:27:11,349 --> 00:27:14,309
it. And, yeah, it's the that is a

763
00:27:14,309 --> 00:27:17,109
a frustrating element to it. Ryan, you mentioned

764
00:27:17,109 --> 00:27:19,750
the the COVID era about whether or not

765
00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:22,445
this stuff was intentional or or, you know

766
00:27:23,705 --> 00:27:25,644
can you imagine the sort of psychological

767
00:27:25,945 --> 00:27:27,244
profiles they developed

768
00:27:27,705 --> 00:27:28,765
during COVID?

769
00:27:29,464 --> 00:27:32,424
All the information that they were watching for

770
00:27:32,424 --> 00:27:34,559
in advance, they knew this was coming and

771
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:36,900
and and how they could measure and quantify

772
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:38,099
that and build

773
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,559
digital voodoo dolls of each one of us

774
00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,119
and know just where to put that pin

775
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,259
to make us dance

776
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,559
and who will take the shots, who won't

777
00:27:46,559 --> 00:27:48,819
take the the shots. If nothing else,

778
00:27:49,174 --> 00:27:49,674
it's

779
00:27:50,054 --> 00:27:51,275
it's game footage

780
00:27:51,815 --> 00:27:53,755
that they can review and study

781
00:27:54,375 --> 00:27:55,755
in advance of the next

782
00:27:56,694 --> 00:27:57,194
operation

783
00:27:57,575 --> 00:27:59,674
that the military runs on us.

784
00:27:59,974 --> 00:28:00,474
And

785
00:28:01,575 --> 00:28:02,875
I think I fear,

786
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,319
that they learn from their mistakes because there

787
00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:08,099
were a lot of mistakes during COVID.

788
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:10,339
And and and, obviously, things happened,

789
00:28:11,039 --> 00:28:13,700
but I think in retrospect, they

790
00:28:15,519 --> 00:28:17,859
they they would do some things differently.

791
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,015
But now, boy, after after running through that

792
00:28:21,015 --> 00:28:21,515
recently,

793
00:28:22,054 --> 00:28:24,554
understanding how we'll behave, you know, like,

794
00:28:25,095 --> 00:28:27,194
how the rats in the maze will run

795
00:28:27,894 --> 00:28:30,294
depending on which sort of additive we put

796
00:28:30,294 --> 00:28:31,835
in there. Or maybe it's Bill de Blasio

797
00:28:31,894 --> 00:28:33,690
offering a cheeseburger to get you off the

798
00:28:33,690 --> 00:28:35,690
fence to take that jab. You know? I

799
00:28:35,690 --> 00:28:36,190
mean,

800
00:28:36,690 --> 00:28:37,190
like,

801
00:28:37,690 --> 00:28:39,630
the it it got to preposterous

802
00:28:40,009 --> 00:28:42,429
levels, and you start thinking, like, is

803
00:28:43,210 --> 00:28:44,269
this is this real?

804
00:28:44,890 --> 00:28:45,929
Is this are they are they is this

805
00:28:45,929 --> 00:28:48,190
messaging for me, or is this messaging for

806
00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:51,214
for stupid people that are, you know, getting

807
00:28:51,214 --> 00:28:53,134
lottery tickets to take jabs and things like

808
00:28:53,134 --> 00:28:55,055
that? And and I just wonder about that

809
00:28:55,055 --> 00:28:56,835
in the in the after you know, in

810
00:28:57,295 --> 00:28:59,454
now that the haze of war is kind

811
00:28:59,454 --> 00:29:01,394
of over and looking back on that, like,

812
00:29:01,694 --> 00:29:03,875
how much data did they gather on

813
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:06,490
the way we react and how we respond

814
00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:07,109
to,

815
00:29:07,910 --> 00:29:10,569
stimulants or fears that they inject?

816
00:29:11,109 --> 00:29:12,950
Yeah. I I think they learn their lessons

817
00:29:12,950 --> 00:29:14,150
like you said. And I think it's more

818
00:29:14,150 --> 00:29:15,670
than just the one, you know, how we

819
00:29:15,670 --> 00:29:17,109
respond. I think it's all the things we're

820
00:29:17,109 --> 00:29:18,869
discussing. It's like, you know, getting us prepared

821
00:29:18,869 --> 00:29:21,054
for the next step, watching how we respond,

822
00:29:21,054 --> 00:29:22,494
seeing if we all jump at toilet paper

823
00:29:22,494 --> 00:29:23,934
if they decide to make that the point.

824
00:29:23,934 --> 00:29:25,214
You know, it's like it's clear. And I

825
00:29:25,214 --> 00:29:26,494
think today we're seeing that in a lot

826
00:29:26,494 --> 00:29:28,335
of ways and to segue into the Epstein

827
00:29:28,335 --> 00:29:30,255
point, you know, I think it's clear that

828
00:29:30,255 --> 00:29:32,255
with anything right now, we're like like, a

829
00:29:32,255 --> 00:29:33,869
good point is on the side are things

830
00:29:33,869 --> 00:29:35,390
like we saw with Twitter, like the fog

831
00:29:35,390 --> 00:29:37,230
and the drones, despite there being things to

832
00:29:37,230 --> 00:29:39,070
discuss in there, that they just go, if

833
00:29:39,070 --> 00:29:40,990
we just poke this in there, can we

834
00:29:40,990 --> 00:29:43,150
just, like, overtake the entire conversation for two

835
00:29:43,150 --> 00:29:44,750
days? Can we control what they say and

836
00:29:44,750 --> 00:29:46,190
think? And and I think they know that's

837
00:29:46,190 --> 00:29:48,269
the case with a certain crowd at certain

838
00:29:48,269 --> 00:29:50,565
times. And so Epstein has another interesting overlap

839
00:29:50,565 --> 00:29:51,924
to that. You know? And one more thing,

840
00:29:51,924 --> 00:29:54,345
let's not forget with these shots, the MMR

841
00:29:54,404 --> 00:29:56,805
weird shift, you know, or the self amplifying

842
00:29:56,805 --> 00:29:58,565
COVID shot they support or, you know, any

843
00:29:58,565 --> 00:30:00,565
number of things, the platform for bird flu,

844
00:30:00,565 --> 00:30:02,005
you know, all these weird things that should

845
00:30:02,005 --> 00:30:03,609
get so much more attention, but because I

846
00:30:03,609 --> 00:30:05,930
think this mechanism we're discussing, it just falls

847
00:30:05,930 --> 00:30:07,609
on its face. You know? So so let's

848
00:30:07,609 --> 00:30:08,589
talk about Epstein

849
00:30:09,289 --> 00:30:10,190
and the weird

850
00:30:10,490 --> 00:30:12,329
response to it. Well, actually, before we even

851
00:30:12,329 --> 00:30:13,289
get into that, let me what are your

852
00:30:13,289 --> 00:30:14,569
guys' thoughts on on the way it's going

853
00:30:14,569 --> 00:30:16,195
first before we get into the kind of

854
00:30:16,195 --> 00:30:18,195
overlap what people are saying? Steve, you mentioned

855
00:30:18,195 --> 00:30:19,634
Jones and you know, anybody wanna start. Go

856
00:30:19,634 --> 00:30:20,455
ahead. Jump in.

857
00:30:21,634 --> 00:30:24,134
I was I was still remembering the the,

858
00:30:24,994 --> 00:30:28,035
program with the the shots for shots. Remember

859
00:30:28,035 --> 00:30:30,134
that where they were offering people at bars,

860
00:30:30,830 --> 00:30:32,349
a beer and a shot if they would

861
00:30:32,349 --> 00:30:33,170
take the jab?

862
00:30:33,549 --> 00:30:35,250
Which is so dangerous. It's ridiculous.

863
00:30:36,109 --> 00:30:37,630
It was a thousand per hour. The thing

864
00:30:37,630 --> 00:30:40,430
that they actually wrote into Illinois law. State

865
00:30:40,430 --> 00:30:43,549
law. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was job job.

866
00:30:43,549 --> 00:30:44,875
I was I was back there for a

867
00:30:44,875 --> 00:30:46,474
moment. Right. I apologize. Come get drunk and

868
00:30:46,474 --> 00:30:47,595
get a shot at a bar because that

869
00:30:47,595 --> 00:30:49,355
sounds or an actual shot in your arm.

870
00:30:49,355 --> 00:30:50,755
It's just a What could possibly go wrong?

871
00:30:50,875 --> 00:30:52,394
On a side door. Put an ankle in

872
00:30:52,394 --> 00:30:54,714
you. What could possibly go wrong? My brother

873
00:30:54,714 --> 00:30:56,634
literally knew somebody at the bar he went

874
00:30:56,634 --> 00:30:58,794
to where where he lives that was a

875
00:30:58,794 --> 00:31:01,289
purse was a nurse who snuck shots out

876
00:31:01,289 --> 00:31:02,809
of her out of the hospital and had

877
00:31:02,809 --> 00:31:04,250
him in her purse and was trying to

878
00:31:04,250 --> 00:31:06,009
coerce people in the bar to get these

879
00:31:06,009 --> 00:31:07,929
shots. Swear to god. And I this this

880
00:31:07,929 --> 00:31:09,210
is a real story. I mean, you know,

881
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:10,730
question it because you don't know my brother

882
00:31:10,730 --> 00:31:12,490
and it's my third you know, I'm telling

883
00:31:12,490 --> 00:31:14,465
the story, but that's insane. And we know

884
00:31:14,465 --> 00:31:16,305
the level this got to with these nurses

885
00:31:16,305 --> 00:31:18,384
and people that got so riled up with

886
00:31:18,384 --> 00:31:20,565
they thought, you know, righteous, you know, indignation

887
00:31:20,705 --> 00:31:21,904
that they were out there doing stuff like

888
00:31:21,904 --> 00:31:23,985
that, which is just violation of everything they

889
00:31:23,985 --> 00:31:25,205
believe in. It's weird.

890
00:31:25,509 --> 00:31:26,009
Yeah.

891
00:31:27,109 --> 00:31:28,470
But on that note, so let let's if

892
00:31:28,470 --> 00:31:29,990
you guys wanna talk about Epstein, I think

893
00:31:29,990 --> 00:31:31,669
it's relevant to all this. You know? Go

894
00:31:31,669 --> 00:31:33,609
ahead, Charlie. Well, I hope,

895
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:36,789
look. I mean, I I know that there's

896
00:31:36,789 --> 00:31:39,190
a segment of society that's very disappointed that

897
00:31:39,190 --> 00:31:39,929
there's no,

898
00:31:40,264 --> 00:31:41,565
Epstein file dump.

899
00:31:41,944 --> 00:31:42,424
And,

900
00:31:42,984 --> 00:31:45,625
it I just hope that the people that

901
00:31:45,625 --> 00:31:46,125
are

902
00:31:46,825 --> 00:31:47,325
fixating

903
00:31:47,625 --> 00:31:50,505
on the trafficking component realize that that's a

904
00:31:50,505 --> 00:31:53,130
small part of what he was up to.

905
00:31:53,289 --> 00:31:55,150
Right. And then if you think that's interesting,

906
00:31:55,210 --> 00:31:57,210
and it is, and gross, and all those

907
00:31:57,210 --> 00:31:57,710
things,

908
00:31:58,490 --> 00:32:00,650
wait until you hear about everything else he

909
00:32:00,650 --> 00:32:03,230
was doing. And and so if that becomes,

910
00:32:04,809 --> 00:32:06,430
if nothing else, then

911
00:32:07,605 --> 00:32:09,464
it becomes the entry point

912
00:32:09,765 --> 00:32:11,065
for people to understand

913
00:32:11,765 --> 00:32:13,845
about the eugenics side of things that he

914
00:32:13,845 --> 00:32:16,424
was dealing with, the Martin Nowak at Harvard,

915
00:32:16,484 --> 00:32:17,625
financing evolutionary

916
00:32:17,924 --> 00:32:18,984
dynamics, and

917
00:32:19,700 --> 00:32:22,920
population game theory, and all that weird stuff.

918
00:32:23,380 --> 00:32:26,579
And, of course, selling arms and Southern Air

919
00:32:26,579 --> 00:32:28,839
Transport and Les Wexner. And I mean,

920
00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:31,619
like, I I sort of described this last

921
00:32:31,619 --> 00:32:34,134
night, Steve, on on our union show was

922
00:32:34,274 --> 00:32:36,375
if you want the Epstein list, go buy,

923
00:32:36,674 --> 00:32:39,394
One Nation Under Blackmail volume two. That's it.

924
00:32:39,394 --> 00:32:40,694
That's that's essentially

925
00:32:40,994 --> 00:32:43,234
you want the Epstein files? It's that. Like,

926
00:32:43,234 --> 00:32:45,634
go read that, and you'll know all the

927
00:32:45,634 --> 00:32:47,815
players that are sort of in that orbit.

928
00:32:48,179 --> 00:32:50,259
And then from there, hopefully, that will lead

929
00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:53,460
you to ask further questions. So I'm taking

930
00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:55,079
this as a net positive

931
00:32:55,619 --> 00:32:57,879
as long as people recognize that

932
00:32:58,259 --> 00:33:00,755
the trafficking was only a part of what

933
00:33:00,755 --> 00:33:03,315
Epstein was doing and that if you are

934
00:33:03,315 --> 00:33:05,875
interested in learning more about that, that'll take

935
00:33:05,875 --> 00:33:06,774
you into some

936
00:33:07,154 --> 00:33:07,554
some,

937
00:33:08,194 --> 00:33:08,694
some

938
00:33:09,315 --> 00:33:10,694
very dangerous areas.

939
00:33:10,994 --> 00:33:13,875
Eugenics, transhumanism, you know, the Harvard overlap. Right?

940
00:33:13,875 --> 00:33:15,075
I actually think in a way what we're

941
00:33:15,075 --> 00:33:16,853
seeing today with we can play it from

942
00:33:16,853 --> 00:33:18,571
Trump acting like, are you still talking about

943
00:33:18,571 --> 00:33:20,505
Epstein? They still they're trying to put this

944
00:33:20,505 --> 00:33:22,223
to bed, I think, before we overlap with

945
00:33:22,223 --> 00:33:23,941
the very work they were doing and where

946
00:33:23,941 --> 00:33:25,659
this goes. Like, even, like, the Liber Langer

947
00:33:25,659 --> 00:33:27,377
overlap with the nanotech stuff. Like, I think

948
00:33:27,377 --> 00:33:29,310
there's a all of this is coming from

949
00:33:29,310 --> 00:33:30,835
the same realm. I'm I'm interested in what

950
00:33:30,835 --> 00:33:32,355
you think, Catherine, on where this is and

951
00:33:32,355 --> 00:33:33,015
how it relates.

952
00:33:34,434 --> 00:33:36,134
Well, I wanted to find

953
00:33:37,315 --> 00:33:38,914
a video for you. I don't know if

954
00:33:38,914 --> 00:33:40,674
you if you're willing to pay a video

955
00:33:40,674 --> 00:33:43,075
on this. Yeah. But I'm gonna go find

956
00:33:43,075 --> 00:33:45,059
it. I don't know if you saw it.

957
00:33:45,059 --> 00:33:46,599
Larry, Lawrence Wilkerson

958
00:33:47,299 --> 00:33:50,119
gave an interview recently where he talked about

959
00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:52,679
the people at the Pentagon complaining.

960
00:33:53,299 --> 00:33:55,079
So so let's go back on the timeline.

961
00:33:55,299 --> 00:33:55,799
Epstein

962
00:33:56,384 --> 00:33:58,865
is introduced by Bob Rubin, then the national

963
00:33:58,865 --> 00:34:00,085
economic adviser

964
00:34:00,865 --> 00:34:02,625
to he's taken to the White House for

965
00:34:02,625 --> 00:34:04,545
the first time. Rubin, of course, then becomes

966
00:34:04,545 --> 00:34:07,424
secretary of treasury. When Rubin becomes secretary of

967
00:34:07,424 --> 00:34:07,924
treasury,

968
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:11,539
twenty one trillion dollars starts to go missing

969
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:13,779
from the US treasury. We get huge

970
00:34:14,319 --> 00:34:17,059
this huge bulge of missing money. Meantime,

971
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,239
between the time according to Whitney, between the

972
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:20,739
time,

973
00:34:22,735 --> 00:34:24,894
Epstein is first introduced to the White House

974
00:34:24,894 --> 00:34:27,074
to the time that the Clinton administration

975
00:34:27,855 --> 00:34:29,614
ends. I think he was at the White

976
00:34:29,614 --> 00:34:32,114
House some fantastic amount of time, something

977
00:34:32,494 --> 00:34:35,855
something between fifteen and twenty, but constant visitor

978
00:34:35,855 --> 00:34:38,140
at the White House. Then we know Bill

979
00:34:38,140 --> 00:34:39,519
Clinton gets on a plane,

980
00:34:40,059 --> 00:34:43,099
you know, as money's disappearing from DOD and

981
00:34:43,099 --> 00:34:45,440
HUD in in enormous amounts.

982
00:34:45,820 --> 00:34:47,679
He gets on a plane with the Clintons

983
00:34:47,820 --> 00:34:49,519
and starts flying around the world,

984
00:34:50,025 --> 00:34:52,744
And and countries around the world magically find

985
00:34:52,744 --> 00:34:54,905
hundreds of millions of dollars to donate back

986
00:34:54,905 --> 00:34:56,125
to the Clinton Foundation.

987
00:34:56,585 --> 00:34:59,065
It's quite remarkable. So I I believe Epstein

988
00:34:59,065 --> 00:35:01,164
was primarily a money laundering operation.

989
00:35:01,625 --> 00:35:04,105
You know, he was the swift system for

990
00:35:04,105 --> 00:35:04,605
the

991
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,559
money disappearing from the federal government among other

992
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,280
things. But anyway, so Wilkerson gets on, and

993
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,519
I'm gonna find the link for you. And

994
00:35:12,519 --> 00:35:14,839
he describes in the early two thousands as

995
00:35:14,839 --> 00:35:16,839
this money is going missing and things are

996
00:35:16,839 --> 00:35:17,339
happening.

997
00:35:17,744 --> 00:35:20,545
He said, Musad took over the Pentagon. They

998
00:35:20,545 --> 00:35:22,464
didn't even need an ID to get in.

999
00:35:22,464 --> 00:35:25,204
At one point, Rumsfeld complained to my boss,

1000
00:35:25,264 --> 00:35:26,164
meaning pal,

1001
00:35:26,545 --> 00:35:27,764
you know, that literally,

1002
00:35:29,105 --> 00:35:31,744
Musad was more powerful than Rumsfeld at the

1003
00:35:31,744 --> 00:35:32,244
Pentagon.

1004
00:35:32,769 --> 00:35:34,610
Have you seen that clip? I have that

1005
00:35:34,610 --> 00:35:35,809
clip. Go ahead. Keep talking. I'm gonna bring

1006
00:35:35,809 --> 00:35:37,750
it up right now. Okay. Okay.

1007
00:35:38,050 --> 00:35:40,230
And, but it shows you

1008
00:35:40,610 --> 00:35:43,989
because you have this triad between British intelligence,

1009
00:35:44,130 --> 00:35:46,150
Israeli intelligence, and US intelligence.

1010
00:35:46,755 --> 00:35:49,335
And in my experience, they're very much operating

1011
00:35:49,394 --> 00:35:49,894
together.

1012
00:35:50,755 --> 00:35:53,635
And I'm just assuming that Epstein was part

1013
00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:54,694
of that operation

1014
00:35:55,795 --> 00:35:58,755
and part of that operation to literally engineer

1015
00:35:58,755 --> 00:35:59,894
a financial co.

1016
00:36:02,059 --> 00:36:03,920
And and if you look at how deep

1017
00:36:04,380 --> 00:36:05,840
if you look at how deep

1018
00:36:06,460 --> 00:36:07,519
those relationships

1019
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:09,900
go and their connection so so I'll give

1020
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,920
you an example because the Trump administration,

1021
00:36:12,940 --> 00:36:15,340
you know, I sometimes I say, Trump and

1022
00:36:15,340 --> 00:36:18,304
his administration have an Epstein file the size

1023
00:36:18,304 --> 00:36:19,844
of the Encyclopedia Britannica.

1024
00:36:20,784 --> 00:36:23,984
Les Wexner bought a house for Epstein on

1025
00:36:23,984 --> 00:36:25,284
East 70 First Street.

1026
00:36:25,824 --> 00:36:26,324
Then

1027
00:36:26,625 --> 00:36:28,644
he bought a bigger house next door,

1028
00:36:29,199 --> 00:36:31,599
moved Epstein to the bigger house, and then

1029
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:33,460
he sold the house to Howard Lutnick,

1030
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,539
the current secretary of commerce,

1031
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,460
and I think for some ridiculous, like, $10.

1032
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,559
And then Lutnick took out a $4,000,000

1033
00:36:42,559 --> 00:36:44,594
mortgage, so he got $4,000,000

1034
00:36:44,594 --> 00:36:46,375
of capital on the deal. And

1035
00:36:47,715 --> 00:36:49,394
you tell me whether you think there was

1036
00:36:49,394 --> 00:36:51,635
a connection, you know, through the basement or

1037
00:36:51,635 --> 00:36:53,954
in the garden between the two houses. You

1038
00:36:53,954 --> 00:36:56,195
tell me. But if you're running a major

1039
00:36:56,195 --> 00:36:58,275
money laundering operation, there's a reason you would

1040
00:36:58,275 --> 00:37:00,659
want one of the 24 primary dealers in

1041
00:37:00,659 --> 00:37:02,679
the treasury market next door. Right?

1042
00:37:03,139 --> 00:37:03,639
Okay.

1043
00:37:03,940 --> 00:37:06,900
Do you really think that that that

1044
00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:09,719
you know, if you release the the Epstein

1045
00:37:09,859 --> 00:37:12,179
file, that's part of the discussion you're gonna

1046
00:37:12,179 --> 00:37:13,239
have. Now we know

1047
00:37:13,594 --> 00:37:15,835
JPMorgan Chase, Deutsche Bank, a lot of the

1048
00:37:15,835 --> 00:37:16,574
big banks

1049
00:37:16,875 --> 00:37:18,094
had huge settlements.

1050
00:37:18,714 --> 00:37:20,795
I mean, they have paid out millions and

1051
00:37:20,795 --> 00:37:22,795
millions of dollars on their settlements on the

1052
00:37:22,795 --> 00:37:23,694
Epstein case.

1053
00:37:24,074 --> 00:37:26,074
That's why when people say there's nothing there,

1054
00:37:26,074 --> 00:37:28,019
if there's nothing there, why are the most

1055
00:37:28,019 --> 00:37:30,340
powerful banks in the world paying out, you

1056
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:33,140
know, millions of dollars to settle these cases

1057
00:37:33,140 --> 00:37:34,280
and take them dark?

1058
00:37:34,579 --> 00:37:36,980
Why did the why did the attorney general

1059
00:37:36,980 --> 00:37:38,679
for the, you know, for the

1060
00:37:39,059 --> 00:37:41,300
what was the island that sued JPMorgan Chase?

1061
00:37:41,300 --> 00:37:43,224
It was the Virgin Islands. You know, why

1062
00:37:43,224 --> 00:37:45,224
did they get fired for bringing a lawsuit

1063
00:37:45,224 --> 00:37:47,964
against JPMorgan about their financing of,

1064
00:37:48,905 --> 00:37:50,844
you know, the Epstein network? So

1065
00:37:52,344 --> 00:37:55,164
I I just think we're we're looking at

1066
00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:56,750
an operation

1067
00:37:57,369 --> 00:37:58,750
that was very successful.

1068
00:37:59,610 --> 00:38:00,349
It worked.

1069
00:38:01,530 --> 00:38:04,750
It it's intertwined very much with this administration

1070
00:38:05,050 --> 00:38:06,510
and many people in Washington,

1071
00:38:07,130 --> 00:38:09,150
and it's at the core of the intelligence

1072
00:38:09,369 --> 00:38:10,590
agency's power.

1073
00:38:11,255 --> 00:38:11,695
Why,

1074
00:38:12,135 --> 00:38:14,135
you know, those files are worth a fortune

1075
00:38:14,135 --> 00:38:16,775
in terms of blackmailing people and operating control.

1076
00:38:16,775 --> 00:38:18,155
Why would you give them up?

1077
00:38:18,614 --> 00:38:20,695
Information is the most valuable thing as you

1078
00:38:20,775 --> 00:38:22,614
as, you know, argued in the world. But,

1079
00:38:22,614 --> 00:38:24,295
you know, the the go ahead. Go ahead,

1080
00:38:24,295 --> 00:38:24,780
Charlie.

1081
00:38:25,340 --> 00:38:27,500
No. You wouldn't give them up. You never

1082
00:38:27,500 --> 00:38:29,440
would. That's why I thought it was unrealistic

1083
00:38:29,579 --> 00:38:31,500
for people to think they're gonna you know,

1084
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:33,579
we have if you wanna know who's in

1085
00:38:33,579 --> 00:38:35,820
his orbit, you can you can find out

1086
00:38:35,820 --> 00:38:37,500
who's in his orbit. There's there there's a

1087
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,315
lot of but if you want

1088
00:38:39,875 --> 00:38:40,534
the goods,

1089
00:38:41,074 --> 00:38:42,214
the tapes themselves,

1090
00:38:42,514 --> 00:38:44,275
why would they give them up? That's worth

1091
00:38:44,275 --> 00:38:46,114
so much you know, I don't need to

1092
00:38:46,114 --> 00:38:48,594
blackmail you if I control the the guy

1093
00:38:48,594 --> 00:38:50,594
who is blackmailing you. That's all I need

1094
00:38:50,594 --> 00:38:52,295
to do. Right? So when he goes away,

1095
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:54,739
they just take over his franchise, and they've

1096
00:38:54,739 --> 00:38:56,900
got all the they've got the info there.

1097
00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:58,280
So now I mean,

1098
00:38:59,300 --> 00:39:00,199
what's the difference

1099
00:39:00,820 --> 00:39:03,219
between Epstein's version of organized crime and the

1100
00:39:03,219 --> 00:39:05,460
FBI? To me, there there it's just a

1101
00:39:05,460 --> 00:39:08,414
different brand, but it's still organized crime. Well,

1102
00:39:08,414 --> 00:39:10,094
to your point, Charlie, about the network, you

1103
00:39:10,094 --> 00:39:12,015
know, it just you know, obviously, we were

1104
00:39:12,015 --> 00:39:14,255
talking about much larger things these connected to.

1105
00:39:14,255 --> 00:39:15,855
But even just the point about the network

1106
00:39:15,855 --> 00:39:18,655
itself, that isn't even about the actual trafficking.

1107
00:39:18,655 --> 00:39:20,735
It's about that being used to influence and

1108
00:39:20,735 --> 00:39:22,494
control. Right? To be able to blackmail people

1109
00:39:22,494 --> 00:39:24,549
in powerful positions to get them to do

1110
00:39:24,549 --> 00:39:26,549
what they ultimately want. And so, Catherine, let's

1111
00:39:26,549 --> 00:39:27,989
go back to that video really quickly since

1112
00:39:27,989 --> 00:39:29,989
it's such a very important point to highlight

1113
00:39:29,989 --> 00:39:32,650
Wilkerson saying this about the Pentagon. And interestingly,

1114
00:39:33,030 --> 00:39:34,869
how right now and, actually, before we play

1115
00:39:34,869 --> 00:39:36,630
this, let's start for people that maybe didn't

1116
00:39:36,630 --> 00:39:37,989
see it because we're all talking about this

1117
00:39:37,989 --> 00:39:39,405
as if people knew the report, but it

1118
00:39:39,405 --> 00:39:40,465
came out them claiming

1119
00:39:40,765 --> 00:39:42,844
that there was no blackmail, that there was

1120
00:39:42,844 --> 00:39:44,445
no client list, that there, you know, that

1121
00:39:44,525 --> 00:39:45,885
what was the other part? There was a,

1122
00:39:46,605 --> 00:39:48,684
they're basically just dispelling the entire story. And

1123
00:39:48,684 --> 00:39:50,940
that that he he took his own life.

1124
00:39:51,179 --> 00:39:52,619
You're right. Exactly. That he sued that he

1125
00:39:52,619 --> 00:39:54,380
killed himself, that there was no client list,

1126
00:39:54,380 --> 00:39:56,059
and there's no blackmail. Put it all to

1127
00:39:56,059 --> 00:39:57,420
bed, and now Trump's going like, what are

1128
00:39:57,420 --> 00:39:59,099
we all talking about this for? So here's

1129
00:39:59,099 --> 00:40:00,780
the here's why. And I think the covering

1130
00:40:00,780 --> 00:40:02,780
up of the blackmail part is because of

1131
00:40:02,780 --> 00:40:05,304
this, in my opinion. One of many points.

1132
00:40:05,364 --> 00:40:07,464
It's unquestionable that the Epstein

1133
00:40:07,844 --> 00:40:08,344
business

1134
00:40:09,444 --> 00:40:11,204
was heavily influenced, let me put it that

1135
00:40:11,204 --> 00:40:12,344
way, by Mossad.

1136
00:40:14,085 --> 00:40:17,125
And so that's somehow emblematic on these huge

1137
00:40:17,125 --> 00:40:18,264
geopolitical issues.

1138
00:40:19,070 --> 00:40:20,849
Yes. I I watched Mossad

1139
00:40:21,389 --> 00:40:22,610
take over the Pentagon

1140
00:40:23,150 --> 00:40:24,769
in 02/2002.

1141
00:40:25,230 --> 00:40:26,929
The Pentagon was infiltrated

1142
00:40:27,389 --> 00:40:28,210
by Mossad.

1143
00:40:28,590 --> 00:40:30,690
They did not need any identification

1144
00:40:31,150 --> 00:40:32,909
to get through the river entrance to the

1145
00:40:32,909 --> 00:40:35,905
building. They went upstairs to Douglas Fife, the

1146
00:40:35,905 --> 00:40:36,405
undersecretary

1147
00:40:36,704 --> 00:40:37,284
of defenses

1148
00:40:37,664 --> 00:40:38,405
for policy,

1149
00:40:38,704 --> 00:40:40,784
the third most powerful man in the defense

1150
00:40:40,784 --> 00:40:41,284
department.

1151
00:40:41,585 --> 00:40:43,905
Occasionally, they went to the second most powerful

1152
00:40:43,905 --> 00:40:46,885
man, Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of defense,

1153
00:40:47,230 --> 00:40:49,309
and they had run of the Pentagon. Donald

1154
00:40:49,309 --> 00:40:51,390
Rumsfeld, the secretary of defense, said to my

1155
00:40:51,390 --> 00:40:53,710
boss one time, hell, I don't run my

1156
00:40:53,710 --> 00:40:54,210
building.

1157
00:40:54,510 --> 00:40:55,489
Mossad does.

1158
00:41:00,195 --> 00:41:02,275
So I bring up the fact that the

1159
00:41:02,275 --> 00:41:04,755
latest report is two congressmen, one from New

1160
00:41:04,755 --> 00:41:06,135
York and one from New Jersey,

1161
00:41:06,594 --> 00:41:08,994
is now suggesting that we give Israel stealth

1162
00:41:08,994 --> 00:41:10,934
bombers and bunker buster bombs.

1163
00:41:12,989 --> 00:41:15,309
Man. Despite the fact that we've claimed we've

1164
00:41:15,309 --> 00:41:18,510
destroyed all nuclear capacity there. Right. Which we

1165
00:41:18,510 --> 00:41:20,110
always knew was what narrative or not or

1166
00:41:20,110 --> 00:41:21,389
even that even if that was the case,

1167
00:41:21,389 --> 00:41:22,989
they still weren't gonna stop because it's not

1168
00:41:22,989 --> 00:41:24,829
really about that. But to add to that

1169
00:41:24,829 --> 00:41:26,269
point as well, that ever this is a

1170
00:41:26,269 --> 00:41:27,954
part that we all know that's now newly

1171
00:41:27,954 --> 00:41:29,394
making the rounds through certain peep you know,

1172
00:41:29,394 --> 00:41:31,554
certain circles, but that this is a a

1173
00:41:31,635 --> 00:41:33,234
an old, you know, that he and now

1174
00:41:33,234 --> 00:41:34,514
she read directly from it because it's not

1175
00:41:34,514 --> 00:41:36,034
just that statement that is the main part

1176
00:41:36,034 --> 00:41:37,815
of it. It was this part

1177
00:41:39,875 --> 00:41:40,855
where he says,

1178
00:41:41,769 --> 00:41:44,009
he'd been, basically, he cut the non prosecution

1179
00:41:44,009 --> 00:41:45,769
deal with one of Epstein's lawyers, and he

1180
00:41:45,769 --> 00:41:47,529
had been told to back off that Epstein

1181
00:41:47,529 --> 00:41:49,690
was above his pay grade. I was told

1182
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:52,089
Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it

1183
00:41:52,089 --> 00:41:54,089
alone. He told interviewers, and I think one

1184
00:41:54,089 --> 00:41:55,864
of the most important parts is they told

1185
00:41:55,944 --> 00:41:57,784
he said this to the Trump transition team

1186
00:41:57,784 --> 00:41:59,545
who they write who evidently thought that was

1187
00:41:59,545 --> 00:42:00,905
a sufficient answer and went ahead and brought

1188
00:42:00,905 --> 00:42:02,025
him on the team. You know? So it's

1189
00:42:02,025 --> 00:42:04,764
like just insane. I think that speaks volumes.

1190
00:42:07,065 --> 00:42:09,065
And then, what I think will overlap with

1191
00:42:09,065 --> 00:42:10,505
this, but I also think is relevant is

1192
00:42:10,505 --> 00:42:12,449
the the the point Charlie's making and others

1193
00:42:12,449 --> 00:42:14,210
about the bigger aspect of this is let's

1194
00:42:14,210 --> 00:42:16,210
not forget this this is from 2023.

1195
00:42:16,210 --> 00:42:18,849
Epstein's calendar contained multiple meetings with Peter Thiel,

1196
00:42:18,849 --> 00:42:20,050
and then the new one from New York

1197
00:42:20,050 --> 00:42:22,210
Times, Epstein invested with Peter Thiel and his

1198
00:42:22,210 --> 00:42:23,429
estate is reaping millions.

1199
00:42:23,835 --> 00:42:25,434
Interestingly, on that side note about the the

1200
00:42:25,434 --> 00:42:27,994
ep the estate still, you know there's still

1201
00:42:27,994 --> 00:42:29,355
things that seem to be moving around all

1202
00:42:29,355 --> 00:42:31,034
this that no one wants to acknowledge. Anyway,

1203
00:42:31,034 --> 00:42:32,234
anyway, what do you guys think about all

1204
00:42:32,234 --> 00:42:33,215
that? Any direction?

1205
00:42:35,514 --> 00:42:37,440
I mean, the it's not it's not a

1206
00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:38,980
surprise. The whole transhumanist

1207
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,159
component and the whole, yeah, of the, you

1208
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:43,139
know, of Epstein,

1209
00:42:43,519 --> 00:42:45,380
whether or not that's an international

1210
00:42:45,679 --> 00:42:48,019
operation or if that was just something that

1211
00:42:48,159 --> 00:42:50,319
he, you know, personally wanted to be a

1212
00:42:50,319 --> 00:42:52,000
part of and the various people that he

1213
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,545
funded throughout is It's not just Peter Thiel.

1214
00:42:54,545 --> 00:42:56,944
It's like Steven Pinker and the Kurtzweig. You

1215
00:42:56,944 --> 00:42:58,244
know? All those guys

1216
00:42:58,625 --> 00:43:00,005
re received this money.

1217
00:43:02,464 --> 00:43:04,324
It's it speaks to

1218
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:06,900
what a a larger

1219
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,679
agenda is, I think, for the, you know,

1220
00:43:09,679 --> 00:43:12,320
tech billionaire and the billionaire elite class. Like,

1221
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:13,140
the the

1222
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:17,795
desire to become, you know, extra human or

1223
00:43:17,795 --> 00:43:18,295
superhuman

1224
00:43:18,595 --> 00:43:21,015
or something like that. And then the narcissism

1225
00:43:21,235 --> 00:43:22,614
that allows you to think

1226
00:43:22,994 --> 00:43:24,215
my lineage

1227
00:43:24,835 --> 00:43:27,335
should rule the world, so I need to

1228
00:43:27,555 --> 00:43:28,055
effectively

1229
00:43:28,355 --> 00:43:30,070
clone me. You know?

1230
00:43:30,929 --> 00:43:32,769
We still don't know what was at Zorro

1231
00:43:32,769 --> 00:43:34,949
Ranch, and we still don't know whose fingerprints

1232
00:43:35,409 --> 00:43:37,590
are all over, you know, whatever

1233
00:43:38,449 --> 00:43:40,769
alleged, you know, breeding programs and things like

1234
00:43:40,769 --> 00:43:43,644
that are. But I guarantee you, there's a

1235
00:43:43,644 --> 00:43:45,184
very short straight line

1236
00:43:45,644 --> 00:43:47,885
to the people that were involved in Epstein's

1237
00:43:47,885 --> 00:43:49,585
let's all live forever projects.

1238
00:43:50,684 --> 00:43:53,164
Yeah. Yeah. I I that's the the the

1239
00:43:53,164 --> 00:43:54,525
point you made there in case people don't

1240
00:43:54,525 --> 00:43:55,804
know is the idea of him like, what

1241
00:43:55,804 --> 00:43:57,719
was the side the mindset of, like, spreading

1242
00:43:57,719 --> 00:43:59,559
a seed across the world? You know, the

1243
00:43:59,559 --> 00:44:01,639
idea of, like, you know, what what was

1244
00:44:01,639 --> 00:44:02,760
it? Go ahead. You know, I don't I

1245
00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,579
He was so convinced of his own genius

1246
00:44:06,039 --> 00:44:09,480
and and acumen that he quite literally wanted

1247
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,260
to be the dominant genetic,

1248
00:44:11,784 --> 00:44:13,164
you know, progenitor

1249
00:44:13,625 --> 00:44:14,445
for future,

1250
00:44:15,625 --> 00:44:16,844
for the future of humanity.

1251
00:44:17,304 --> 00:44:18,125
That's creepy.

1252
00:44:18,905 --> 00:44:21,065
Not a megalomaniac at all. But so so

1253
00:44:21,144 --> 00:44:22,125
oh, go ahead, Catherine.

1254
00:44:22,905 --> 00:44:25,110
I gotta say goodbye. I've gotta sign off,

1255
00:44:25,269 --> 00:44:26,950
but it's been a pleasure to be with

1256
00:44:26,950 --> 00:44:28,090
you guys. And,

1257
00:44:29,110 --> 00:44:30,630
you know, we have to keep our state

1258
00:44:30,630 --> 00:44:32,550
of amusement, and you guys really helped me

1259
00:44:32,550 --> 00:44:34,550
do that. So thank you, Maureen. Thank you,

1260
00:44:34,550 --> 00:44:36,950
Charlie. Thank you, Steve. And I do wanna

1261
00:44:36,950 --> 00:44:39,014
see those 10 jokes. It's okay. Yeah. Yeah.

1262
00:44:39,014 --> 00:44:40,855
No. We'll we'll connect. I I need to

1263
00:44:40,855 --> 00:44:42,155
get you on the show anyway.

1264
00:44:43,014 --> 00:44:45,994
I would love to. Thanks, Ryan. Bye. Awesome.

1265
00:44:46,214 --> 00:44:48,135
Great talking to you, Catherine. Well, let let's

1266
00:44:48,135 --> 00:44:49,734
let's keep going on that same direction. I

1267
00:44:49,734 --> 00:44:50,694
mean, let's get into the,

1268
00:44:51,369 --> 00:44:53,130
you know, let's let's make let's let's get

1269
00:44:53,130 --> 00:44:54,809
into the the absurdity of all this if

1270
00:44:54,809 --> 00:44:56,170
you guys want to since we talked about

1271
00:44:56,170 --> 00:44:57,690
it. Like, the I this one more than

1272
00:44:57,690 --> 00:44:59,449
anything, I think, or a couple of these

1273
00:44:59,449 --> 00:45:00,889
that we talked about, I'm trying to find

1274
00:45:00,889 --> 00:45:02,170
the ones. Like, here's the one I mentioned

1275
00:45:02,170 --> 00:45:03,929
since I brought it up already. Of of

1276
00:45:03,929 --> 00:45:05,994
of Trump saying, you know, are we still

1277
00:45:05,994 --> 00:45:07,835
talking about Epstein? The guy has been talked

1278
00:45:07,835 --> 00:45:09,855
about for years. Like, what crazy.

1279
00:45:10,155 --> 00:45:11,594
What a weird thing to say. Like, I

1280
00:45:11,594 --> 00:45:13,114
mean, here here's my point is that I

1281
00:45:13,195 --> 00:45:14,554
as I said actually, I did comment that

1282
00:45:14,554 --> 00:45:16,394
I said your it's your base asking that

1283
00:45:16,394 --> 00:45:18,315
question. Once again, showing the reality of the

1284
00:45:18,315 --> 00:45:20,610
two party illusion and the shrieking sycophants who

1285
00:45:20,610 --> 00:45:23,090
now parrot this statement despite moments ago telling

1286
00:45:23,090 --> 00:45:24,369
you Trump would expose it all and it

1287
00:45:24,369 --> 00:45:26,210
was paramount are showing us the reality of

1288
00:45:26,210 --> 00:45:28,610
TeamSport politics. But, you know, they must know

1289
00:45:28,610 --> 00:45:30,289
that. So that's goes back to that point

1290
00:45:30,289 --> 00:45:33,170
of, like, why? What is driving their actions?

1291
00:45:33,170 --> 00:45:34,690
And not to go to the same question.

1292
00:45:34,690 --> 00:45:36,204
I just think it's worth pointing out that

1293
00:45:36,204 --> 00:45:37,644
I think something else is driving their actions.

1294
00:45:37,644 --> 00:45:39,005
What do you guys think? It's the black

1295
00:45:39,005 --> 00:45:41,244
hole we talked about before, Ryan. Right? It's

1296
00:45:41,244 --> 00:45:42,764
how do you measure the black hole by

1297
00:45:42,764 --> 00:45:45,005
its effects on other on things around it.

1298
00:45:45,005 --> 00:45:47,085
Good point. Why is Trump behaving in this

1299
00:45:47,085 --> 00:45:49,025
very peculiar way? Yeah.

1300
00:45:49,369 --> 00:45:51,309
I wonder what sort of unseen

1301
00:45:51,610 --> 00:45:52,750
influence is

1302
00:45:53,210 --> 00:45:53,710
warping

1303
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:55,690
the words that come out of his mouth

1304
00:45:55,690 --> 00:45:57,289
or or, you know, putting him in an

1305
00:45:57,289 --> 00:45:57,789
unusual

1306
00:45:58,170 --> 00:45:59,929
situation. But, it's,

1307
00:46:00,410 --> 00:46:02,505
I think we know what's what's been going

1308
00:46:02,505 --> 00:46:04,025
on with with a lot of this. I

1309
00:46:04,025 --> 00:46:04,525
mean,

1310
00:46:04,984 --> 00:46:06,444
he belongs to intelligence.

1311
00:46:06,744 --> 00:46:08,444
Okay. Yes. Which one?

1312
00:46:08,824 --> 00:46:11,484
Mhmm. You know, that's really maybe the follow-up

1313
00:46:11,545 --> 00:46:14,105
question for Alex Acosta is is

1314
00:46:15,699 --> 00:46:16,440
are we

1315
00:46:16,739 --> 00:46:17,559
talking just

1316
00:46:18,739 --> 00:46:19,800
ours or

1317
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:20,920
foreign

1318
00:46:21,539 --> 00:46:23,320
multiple foreign? I mean,

1319
00:46:24,019 --> 00:46:25,719
Bob Maxwell was a multiple

1320
00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:29,699
foreign agent as well. Right? So it there's

1321
00:46:29,699 --> 00:46:32,914
there's a kind of a semi family tree,

1322
00:46:33,135 --> 00:46:34,035
family shrub,

1323
00:46:35,055 --> 00:46:37,715
from the Maxwells and Epstein, and,

1324
00:46:38,094 --> 00:46:40,335
you know, why wouldn't he be a dual

1325
00:46:40,335 --> 00:46:40,835
agent?

1326
00:46:41,695 --> 00:46:43,695
I don't you know, I'm working for three

1327
00:46:43,695 --> 00:46:46,699
intelligence agencies as as Robert Maxwell was. I'm

1328
00:46:46,699 --> 00:46:48,699
of the mind, though, that you can't be

1329
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:50,880
that they're only,

1330
00:46:51,900 --> 00:46:53,739
There's only one? Yeah. What's the word I'm

1331
00:46:53,739 --> 00:46:55,339
looking for? That they only are honor like,

1332
00:46:55,339 --> 00:46:57,259
they only, hold true to one of them.

1333
00:46:57,259 --> 00:46:58,859
Like, I because how can you how can

1334
00:46:58,859 --> 00:47:00,059
you not? You know, that you have because

1335
00:47:00,059 --> 00:47:01,179
at the end of the day, it's really

1336
00:47:01,179 --> 00:47:03,775
about sacrificing other relationships for the interest of

1337
00:47:03,775 --> 00:47:05,695
that goal. You know? So that's When you

1338
00:47:05,855 --> 00:47:08,175
Well, MI six didn't give Robert Maxwell a

1339
00:47:08,175 --> 00:47:08,994
state funeral.

1340
00:47:09,454 --> 00:47:09,954
Right?

1341
00:47:11,055 --> 00:47:11,555
Interesting.

1342
00:47:12,335 --> 00:47:14,974
You know, the his state funeral was in

1343
00:47:14,974 --> 00:47:17,789
a different country. Right. Yeah. Maybe that's how

1344
00:47:17,789 --> 00:47:18,849
they measure it,

1345
00:47:19,150 --> 00:47:21,070
by where you're treated as a hero in

1346
00:47:21,070 --> 00:47:21,890
in the afterlife.

1347
00:47:22,349 --> 00:47:24,450
Yeah. Tony Blinken stepfather

1348
00:47:24,829 --> 00:47:25,730
didn't eulogize

1349
00:47:26,269 --> 00:47:28,769
Robert Maxwell at the Rose Garden.

1350
00:47:29,385 --> 00:47:30,844
Yeah. That's it. Right.

1351
00:47:31,224 --> 00:47:32,505
Trying to find the other ones here. The

1352
00:47:32,505 --> 00:47:34,265
one about this was just to Alex Jones

1353
00:47:34,265 --> 00:47:36,425
keeps doing this. The Epstein Jail cell security

1354
00:47:36,425 --> 00:47:38,105
footage is missing a full minute. Is this

1355
00:47:38,105 --> 00:47:39,724
a setup to make Trump look guilty?

1356
00:47:40,344 --> 00:47:42,585
I just can't effing believe that this they're

1357
00:47:42,585 --> 00:47:44,265
doing this right now. Or the other one,

1358
00:47:44,265 --> 00:47:46,329
which was what, that, oh, that they think

1359
00:47:46,329 --> 00:47:47,849
that he has the list now and it's

1360
00:47:47,849 --> 00:47:49,469
a trap to set up the deep state.

1361
00:47:49,530 --> 00:47:51,289
Yeah. I mean, of course, we should consider

1362
00:47:51,289 --> 00:47:53,630
these things. They're certainly possible. But it's like,

1363
00:47:53,769 --> 00:47:55,530
fuck. You know, how many times they can

1364
00:47:55,530 --> 00:47:57,769
drive this without any evidence just about, you

1365
00:47:57,769 --> 00:47:59,715
know, flailing into, like, what we can make,

1366
00:47:59,875 --> 00:48:02,114
you know, conversation about to make this not

1367
00:48:02,114 --> 00:48:04,035
feel like what it obviously is. It's just

1368
00:48:04,035 --> 00:48:04,535
wild.

1369
00:48:06,275 --> 00:48:08,454
The the it any any

1370
00:48:08,835 --> 00:48:09,655
answer except

1371
00:48:10,114 --> 00:48:11,894
the undue influence of Israel

1372
00:48:12,250 --> 00:48:14,829
is what they're going with. They're it's like

1373
00:48:15,130 --> 00:48:15,630
it's

1374
00:48:16,329 --> 00:48:18,430
they're betting on, like, the field.

1375
00:48:18,890 --> 00:48:20,410
Like, what do you what do you think

1376
00:48:20,410 --> 00:48:23,210
the answer is? Literally anything other than Israel

1377
00:48:23,210 --> 00:48:24,795
is involved. Yeah. Right.

1378
00:48:25,894 --> 00:48:27,574
So the the thing that drives me nuts

1379
00:48:27,574 --> 00:48:29,355
is that you had Pam Bondi

1380
00:48:29,815 --> 00:48:30,875
out there saying,

1381
00:48:31,335 --> 00:48:31,835
well,

1382
00:48:32,454 --> 00:48:33,434
you know, there's

1383
00:48:34,534 --> 00:48:36,375
horrible things being done to children on these

1384
00:48:36,375 --> 00:48:37,974
tapes where it's not it's not as if

1385
00:48:37,974 --> 00:48:39,969
we could show them to you anyway. Okay.

1386
00:48:39,969 --> 00:48:42,130
Well, then who was doing them? Because maybe

1387
00:48:42,130 --> 00:48:44,369
you should go arrest them. Right. You know?

1388
00:48:44,369 --> 00:48:45,829
Wouldn't that be step one?

1389
00:48:46,530 --> 00:48:47,969
Or or the clip that we're all talking

1390
00:48:47,969 --> 00:48:49,489
about, which now they're trying to wiggle out

1391
00:48:49,489 --> 00:48:51,090
of, which is right here. Saw your appearance

1392
00:48:51,090 --> 00:48:52,849
at CPAC with Ben and and with By

1393
00:48:52,849 --> 00:48:54,144
the way, does she not look like like

1394
00:48:54,144 --> 00:48:55,905
a woman joker? Am I crazy? Like, the

1395
00:48:55,905 --> 00:48:58,625
way with the without makeup on? I'm sorry.

1396
00:48:58,625 --> 00:49:00,224
I had to say that. CPAC with Bannon

1397
00:49:00,224 --> 00:49:02,144
and with Ted Cruz. And one of the

1398
00:49:02,144 --> 00:49:04,305
things that you've alluded to, and this is

1399
00:49:04,305 --> 00:49:06,960
something Donald Trump has talked about, the DOJ

1400
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,679
may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's

1401
00:49:09,679 --> 00:49:11,619
clients. Yes. Will that really happen?

1402
00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,159
It's sitting on my desk right now to

1403
00:49:14,159 --> 00:49:14,639
review.

1404
00:49:15,199 --> 00:49:16,960
That's been a direct So, of course, you

1405
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,880
could argue that she just meant in broad

1406
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:20,480
the whole thing, but it was a pretty

1407
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,425
specific question. You know? And so now they're

1408
00:49:22,425 --> 00:49:23,704
trying to wiggle out of that and saying

1409
00:49:23,704 --> 00:49:25,144
no. But to your point, Steve, I think

1410
00:49:25,144 --> 00:49:27,065
is the is the most important. This, in

1411
00:49:27,065 --> 00:49:28,744
conjunction with the claim of all the video

1412
00:49:28,744 --> 00:49:30,344
and all the things they were seeing, you

1413
00:49:30,344 --> 00:49:32,265
know, you can't make the point today is

1414
00:49:32,265 --> 00:49:34,445
it's not like we're trying to downplay simply

1415
00:49:34,750 --> 00:49:37,309
having, you know, distributing child porn. That's horrible

1416
00:49:37,309 --> 00:49:38,750
that you go to prison. But they're the

1417
00:49:38,750 --> 00:49:40,670
ones making the claim of trafficking. They're the

1418
00:49:40,670 --> 00:49:42,610
ones making the claims that require

1419
00:49:42,989 --> 00:49:44,750
to to charge that there's some kind of

1420
00:49:44,750 --> 00:49:45,250
transaction.

1421
00:49:45,550 --> 00:49:47,390
So they keep making all these allegations, but

1422
00:49:47,390 --> 00:49:49,265
they're not arresting anybody. And most of the

1423
00:49:49,265 --> 00:49:51,184
Republicans I'm seeing are the ones going, you

1424
00:49:51,184 --> 00:49:52,785
know, it's not even about that really. It's

1425
00:49:52,785 --> 00:49:54,224
about where are the Democrats who told us

1426
00:49:54,224 --> 00:49:56,625
to be arrested. And so everyone's calling this

1427
00:49:56,625 --> 00:49:59,204
out. They're also confirming that there's lists.

1428
00:49:59,985 --> 00:50:01,800
Yes. Yes. Well, I put I mean, it's

1429
00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:04,039
not us saying that there's a list. It's

1430
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:05,960
them saying that there's a list. So it's

1431
00:50:05,960 --> 00:50:07,880
like they're like, well, why don't you guys

1432
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:09,579
get off the list thing? It's like, well,

1433
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,880
you're the one that brought it up in

1434
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:13,880
the in the beginning saying that the list

1435
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:15,795
is on on the desk. So what are

1436
00:50:15,795 --> 00:50:17,474
we talking about? Like, if you were if

1437
00:50:17,474 --> 00:50:19,014
you misspoke, say you misspoke.

1438
00:50:19,394 --> 00:50:21,315
And before that, though, talking about how it

1439
00:50:21,315 --> 00:50:23,574
was all of them, Bondi, Cash, Bongino,

1440
00:50:23,954 --> 00:50:25,234
all of them telling you that this is

1441
00:50:25,234 --> 00:50:27,074
the Democrats. It's all about the Democrats. We

1442
00:50:27,074 --> 00:50:28,739
have a lit they're going down. You know?

1443
00:50:28,739 --> 00:50:30,260
I just watched a clip of Cash in

1444
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:32,500
an interview before this. Went point blank. You

1445
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:34,260
know? No. I know. The FDA has it,

1446
00:50:34,260 --> 00:50:35,860
and they know and, like, talking about the

1447
00:50:35,860 --> 00:50:37,860
actual client list. You know? So they've dug

1448
00:50:37,860 --> 00:50:40,019
themselves such an embarrassing hole. I don't know

1449
00:50:40,019 --> 00:50:41,394
why they thought. Like, this is where I

1450
00:50:41,394 --> 00:50:42,755
go back to that same mindset. You know?

1451
00:50:42,755 --> 00:50:44,114
Like, why would they have done this if

1452
00:50:44,114 --> 00:50:45,474
they knew they would come to a point

1453
00:50:45,474 --> 00:50:47,074
to where I don't I feel like this

1454
00:50:47,074 --> 00:50:48,514
country is being sabotaged. And a lot of

1455
00:50:48,514 --> 00:50:49,335
people fire

1456
00:50:49,714 --> 00:50:51,954
them, don't they? Like, doesn't Trump have to

1457
00:50:51,954 --> 00:50:54,594
get rid like, dump them and just, you

1458
00:50:54,594 --> 00:50:56,079
you know? And then they're gonna join the

1459
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:56,900
America party.

1460
00:50:57,839 --> 00:50:58,339
Hooray.

1461
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,320
But it it feels like they're being set

1462
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,019
up to just be thrown overboard.

1463
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,880
It does. It does. The excuse that Pam

1464
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:09,155
Bondi gave for the missing minute too is,

1465
00:51:09,155 --> 00:51:10,914
well, it's an old system, and when it

1466
00:51:10,914 --> 00:51:12,755
resets to do the loop thing, it does

1467
00:51:12,755 --> 00:51:14,434
that every time. And what do you want

1468
00:51:14,434 --> 00:51:15,954
from me? I don't I don't know. It's

1469
00:51:15,954 --> 00:51:17,094
not like you could have

1470
00:51:17,474 --> 00:51:17,974
updated

1471
00:51:19,155 --> 00:51:20,934
the system in the Manhattan

1472
00:51:21,420 --> 00:51:23,659
correction center. They don't have any money. They're

1473
00:51:23,659 --> 00:51:26,219
barely scraping by. Or the cameras that they

1474
00:51:26,219 --> 00:51:28,139
swore were not working until suddenly now they

1475
00:51:28,139 --> 00:51:29,500
are, but we haven't. You know, it's like

1476
00:51:29,500 --> 00:51:31,260
just this takes a special kind of willful

1477
00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:33,980
ignorance to not acknowledge how obviously this thing's

1478
00:51:33,980 --> 00:51:36,335
riddled with holes. You know? But the the,

1479
00:51:36,775 --> 00:51:36,934
the,

1480
00:51:38,135 --> 00:51:39,974
internal aspect too. Did you see that about

1481
00:51:39,974 --> 00:51:42,535
the the the the bottle on the bed

1482
00:51:42,535 --> 00:51:44,695
and all these different like, there's just no

1483
00:51:44,695 --> 00:51:46,855
way you could logically make this case or

1484
00:51:46,855 --> 00:51:48,535
the autopsy with the Hyatt point and how

1485
00:51:48,535 --> 00:51:50,460
it's not possible with the amount of blah

1486
00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:51,659
blah blah blah blah. You know? And they're

1487
00:51:51,659 --> 00:51:53,260
just out here just really trying to force

1488
00:51:53,260 --> 00:51:55,199
this in in an embarrassing way. You know?

1489
00:51:56,940 --> 00:51:58,860
Because they have somebody you know, they have

1490
00:51:58,860 --> 00:51:59,599
such a

1491
00:52:03,065 --> 00:52:04,364
entrenched media apparatus

1492
00:52:04,905 --> 00:52:07,464
that's paid to support them. I'm not talking

1493
00:52:07,464 --> 00:52:09,324
about the people that are, like, Fairweather

1494
00:52:09,784 --> 00:52:12,025
or anything like that. But, like, there's a

1495
00:52:12,025 --> 00:52:13,324
full on multiple

1496
00:52:14,150 --> 00:52:15,210
Trump propaganda

1497
00:52:15,829 --> 00:52:18,650
arms. He's got his own social media network.

1498
00:52:18,950 --> 00:52:20,550
Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, it's

1499
00:52:20,550 --> 00:52:21,450
the the

1500
00:52:21,989 --> 00:52:25,190
amount of money that's being put into getting

1501
00:52:25,190 --> 00:52:27,050
a, you know, ever decreasing

1502
00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:28,650
percentage of the population

1503
00:52:29,255 --> 00:52:32,235
to buy into this nonsense is incredible.

1504
00:52:33,414 --> 00:52:35,494
Yeah. It's wild. But I again, diminishing number.

1505
00:52:35,494 --> 00:52:36,695
I think we can all see that right

1506
00:52:36,695 --> 00:52:38,295
now. But why why don't we unless you

1507
00:52:38,295 --> 00:52:39,574
guys have any more thoughts on just the

1508
00:52:39,574 --> 00:52:42,480
general social commentary of what this is, what

1509
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,920
what is how does this connect for you

1510
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,519
guys? Was it which which was kind of

1511
00:52:45,519 --> 00:52:47,119
the arc of this, you know, Epstein, all

1512
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:49,440
this, to control grid. You know? What what

1513
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,800
I think we all can sense is the

1514
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,559
real story around a lot of this, whether

1515
00:52:52,559 --> 00:52:54,579
it's Israel's involvement, Assad, Zionism,

1516
00:52:54,965 --> 00:52:57,224
technocracy through it all, you know, the AI,

1517
00:52:57,284 --> 00:52:58,724
the all of this stuff. Like, how do

1518
00:52:58,724 --> 00:52:59,864
you feel all this connecting,

1519
00:53:00,164 --> 00:53:01,844
you know, with where this goes? Because they're

1520
00:53:01,844 --> 00:53:03,525
kinda arching back to the AI grid and

1521
00:53:03,525 --> 00:53:04,264
everything else.

1522
00:53:04,644 --> 00:53:06,344
It it it proves

1523
00:53:06,644 --> 00:53:07,304
for people

1524
00:53:08,109 --> 00:53:10,510
who are still trying to fight this red

1525
00:53:10,510 --> 00:53:11,969
team versus blue team

1526
00:53:12,429 --> 00:53:14,929
nonsense that, like, once again,

1527
00:53:15,230 --> 00:53:18,030
you've fallen for it. Yeah. Like, can you

1528
00:53:18,030 --> 00:53:20,510
at least admit that you all you MAGA

1529
00:53:20,510 --> 00:53:21,757
people who thought it was gonna be this

1530
00:53:21,757 --> 00:53:21,777
time, it's gonna be different and you gave

1531
00:53:21,777 --> 00:53:22,449
all the excuses. You've been had, again,

1532
00:53:23,344 --> 00:53:25,824
different and you gave all the excuses. You've

1533
00:53:25,824 --> 00:53:28,784
been had. Again, like admit that this is

1534
00:53:29,105 --> 00:53:31,744
that that's what's going on here. As long

1535
00:53:31,744 --> 00:53:33,125
as you continue to,

1536
00:53:33,984 --> 00:53:36,164
cheerlead for for, you know, or or

1537
00:53:37,449 --> 00:53:40,329
make excuses for your guy because he's on

1538
00:53:40,329 --> 00:53:43,309
your team, you're forever going to be,

1539
00:53:44,010 --> 00:53:46,090
you're you're forever going to be ruled by

1540
00:53:46,090 --> 00:53:48,890
these people. Mhmm. So at first, I I

1541
00:53:48,890 --> 00:53:51,655
just want people to to have a sort

1542
00:53:51,655 --> 00:53:54,214
of honest assessment that they were wrong, and

1543
00:53:54,214 --> 00:53:56,135
it's fine. You got I mean, we all

1544
00:53:56,135 --> 00:53:58,214
get it wrong. But if you thought Trump

1545
00:53:58,214 --> 00:53:59,734
was coming in and it was gonna be

1546
00:53:59,734 --> 00:54:01,434
different in in this time,

1547
00:54:01,734 --> 00:54:03,655
he's gonna he's fighting for us because they

1548
00:54:03,655 --> 00:54:04,875
tried to kill him and

1549
00:54:05,429 --> 00:54:08,150
all this. You've been had. Just admit it.

1550
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:10,469
It sucks to it sucks to to admit

1551
00:54:10,469 --> 00:54:13,030
it, but if you do, then you'll start

1552
00:54:13,030 --> 00:54:15,269
the process of actually seeing what's going on

1553
00:54:15,269 --> 00:54:17,750
here. And that these these two teams, they

1554
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:20,494
work together. It does not matter who is

1555
00:54:20,494 --> 00:54:21,555
in the White House.

1556
00:54:21,934 --> 00:54:24,035
This is far more important

1557
00:54:24,335 --> 00:54:26,275
than who occupies that

1558
00:54:26,655 --> 00:54:29,055
space of real estate. This is a much

1559
00:54:29,055 --> 00:54:31,394
bigger agenda, and it rolls on regardless.

1560
00:54:31,934 --> 00:54:32,675
In fact,

1561
00:54:33,614 --> 00:54:34,595
Trump has been

1562
00:54:35,670 --> 00:54:38,710
installed in there specifically to get all these

1563
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:41,989
right leaning MAGA people to embrace this digital

1564
00:54:41,989 --> 00:54:42,489
technocracy.

1565
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:44,789
Right. That had it been delivered to them

1566
00:54:44,789 --> 00:54:47,289
by the Harris administration, they would have rightly

1567
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:49,784
been opposed to. But because it's their guy

1568
00:54:49,784 --> 00:54:52,204
and their ideas and, you know,

1569
00:54:54,264 --> 00:54:56,025
they're willing to look the other way or

1570
00:54:56,025 --> 00:54:58,264
accept it or not do any research or

1571
00:54:58,264 --> 00:54:58,764
whatever.

1572
00:54:59,144 --> 00:55:00,984
Like, you have to treat both of these

1573
00:55:00,984 --> 00:55:01,965
parties the same.

1574
00:55:03,230 --> 00:55:05,089
Start from a place of distrust.

1575
00:55:05,469 --> 00:55:06,909
Yes. And then if they earn some of

1576
00:55:06,909 --> 00:55:09,549
your respect over the years by doing things

1577
00:55:09,549 --> 00:55:10,929
the right way, Ron Paul,

1578
00:55:12,589 --> 00:55:14,829
then you you, you know, you say, well,

1579
00:55:14,829 --> 00:55:16,784
respect is earned. But the the idea that

1580
00:55:16,864 --> 00:55:19,125
of just blindly trusting your guy

1581
00:55:20,065 --> 00:55:22,085
Yep. In the White House is

1582
00:55:22,385 --> 00:55:25,764
is delusional thinking, and you'll get poor results

1583
00:55:26,144 --> 00:55:28,464
every single time. And I I think that

1584
00:55:28,464 --> 00:55:30,385
that connection of the Epstein point is because

1585
00:55:30,385 --> 00:55:31,984
they're like, we're highlighting. There's a lot of

1586
00:55:31,984 --> 00:55:34,280
moving parts beneath that isn't just that Epstein's

1587
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:35,640
just one part of it. Right? But it

1588
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,400
it gives you the window into this massive

1589
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,239
thing that I do think connects with all

1590
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:40,440
the things that are coming. And so this

1591
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,199
is about trying to put this important connection

1592
00:55:42,199 --> 00:55:44,360
to bed before. That's what I would argue.

1593
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:45,900
And and to your point, Charlie,

1594
00:55:46,284 --> 00:55:49,244
you know, it's it's okay that people it's

1595
00:55:49,244 --> 00:55:50,684
not it's not we don't harp for it.

1596
00:55:50,684 --> 00:55:52,364
We don't want it, but it's okay that

1597
00:55:52,364 --> 00:55:54,045
people that you were fooled. That I we've

1598
00:55:54,045 --> 00:55:55,724
all been fooled. I was fooled. You know,

1599
00:55:55,724 --> 00:55:56,925
we all have a moment where you come

1600
00:55:56,925 --> 00:55:58,525
past that the point is not to sit

1601
00:55:58,525 --> 00:55:59,885
there, like, from our side either and be

1602
00:55:59,885 --> 00:56:01,405
like, you all suck and you were wrong,

1603
00:56:01,405 --> 00:56:03,039
but let's let's be okay. We did it.

1604
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:04,880
We made a mistake. Let's come together and

1605
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,239
finally you know, that's what a lot of

1606
00:56:06,239 --> 00:56:07,519
us have been doing over the years in

1607
00:56:07,519 --> 00:56:09,440
different moments, like, even before the selection. And

1608
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:10,799
we got all screamed at, you know. But

1609
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:12,559
it's like the point is is to try

1610
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:14,319
to find the reality, the unity that we

1611
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:15,599
are all on the same side fighting the

1612
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:17,835
power structure, not ourselves, You know? That's the

1613
00:56:17,835 --> 00:56:19,275
kind of message I think to take from

1614
00:56:19,275 --> 00:56:21,195
this is don't start because what what happens

1615
00:56:21,195 --> 00:56:22,494
a lot, I think, is that then

1616
00:56:22,954 --> 00:56:24,795
the one the the newest element of the

1617
00:56:24,795 --> 00:56:26,715
of the manipulation is to have these bots

1618
00:56:26,715 --> 00:56:28,074
go after them all. Be like, you're all

1619
00:56:28,074 --> 00:56:30,635
more representing people who are on the other

1620
00:56:30,635 --> 00:56:32,140
side. So then they get, like, this dug

1621
00:56:32,140 --> 00:56:33,900
in feeling, like, even though we're wrong, I

1622
00:56:33,900 --> 00:56:35,340
hate that side. You know, it's like it

1623
00:56:35,340 --> 00:56:38,300
enshrines division. Let's move past that. Yeah. Well

1624
00:56:38,460 --> 00:56:40,860
and and even in the naming, you the

1625
00:56:40,860 --> 00:56:41,360
the

1626
00:56:42,059 --> 00:56:42,559
Biden's

1627
00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:45,284
build back better. What what did the Republican

1628
00:56:45,585 --> 00:56:46,324
base say?

1629
00:56:46,704 --> 00:56:49,025
Boo. That's terrible. What about that? No. Big

1630
00:56:49,025 --> 00:56:49,925
beautiful bill?

1631
00:56:50,224 --> 00:56:52,085
Yeah. Same thing, dude.

1632
00:56:52,385 --> 00:56:55,765
Literally, that's the BBB for me. Right. Exactly.

1633
00:56:56,144 --> 00:56:58,210
That's what I'm saying is that it's it

1634
00:56:58,210 --> 00:56:59,030
gets rebranded,

1635
00:57:00,369 --> 00:57:00,869
resold,

1636
00:57:03,010 --> 00:57:03,510
marketed

1637
00:57:05,090 --> 00:57:06,390
to his you know,

1638
00:57:07,329 --> 00:57:09,329
to just a new audience, but it's the

1639
00:57:09,329 --> 00:57:11,010
same it's the same stuff. It's just with

1640
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:12,550
a a new rapper on it.

1641
00:57:12,849 --> 00:57:14,775
Yep. I don't know. Yeah. No. I mean,

1642
00:57:14,775 --> 00:57:16,214
I agree, man. And I think this is

1643
00:57:16,214 --> 00:57:19,255
right like, really starting to res to resonate

1644
00:57:19,255 --> 00:57:21,175
with people. I think people are truly starting

1645
00:57:21,175 --> 00:57:22,934
to to call this out and see it.

1646
00:57:22,934 --> 00:57:24,614
I hope so. I mean, yeah. I mean,

1647
00:57:24,614 --> 00:57:25,974
I think we can see that, though. Like,

1648
00:57:25,974 --> 00:57:28,394
that's my point about the many different fracturing

1649
00:57:28,614 --> 00:57:30,590
of the current, you know, the current got

1650
00:57:30,670 --> 00:57:32,910
you know, lead you know, part of the

1651
00:57:32,910 --> 00:57:34,750
paradigm because it you know, we've it's it

1652
00:57:34,750 --> 00:57:36,510
depends on who's currently in the power structure.

1653
00:57:36,510 --> 00:57:37,630
But, you know, when the left is in

1654
00:57:37,630 --> 00:57:38,829
COVID and, you know, they had their own

1655
00:57:38,829 --> 00:57:40,510
moments. But right now, for crying out loud,

1656
00:57:40,510 --> 00:57:42,625
like, with with the whole which we should

1657
00:57:42,625 --> 00:57:44,385
wonder whether it's building the America party, but

1658
00:57:44,385 --> 00:57:46,305
the whole Trump and Elon split, the Iran

1659
00:57:46,305 --> 00:57:48,465
thing, you know, this recent Epstein thing. I

1660
00:57:48,465 --> 00:57:50,724
mean, we all see it. Twitter is, like,

1661
00:57:50,945 --> 00:57:52,864
awash with this right now of those trying

1662
00:57:52,864 --> 00:57:53,985
to make it all make sense and do

1663
00:57:53,985 --> 00:57:55,664
their tap dance and everybody else going, like,

1664
00:57:55,664 --> 00:57:56,960
what the fuck is happening? And so it

1665
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,480
really shows you that this is breaking through.

1666
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:00,239
You know? And that's what it doesn't mean

1667
00:58:00,239 --> 00:58:01,760
we're gonna succeed from it. Right? Like, they

1668
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:03,119
could wrap you back into the next lie,

1669
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:04,480
but it is one of those moments of

1670
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,239
clarity. Like, I think I saw this at

1671
00:58:06,239 --> 00:58:08,400
the beginning of the Israel genocide, you know,

1672
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:09,760
where people kind of woke up from this

1673
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:11,359
haze. We're like, what the fuck is this?

1674
00:58:11,359 --> 00:58:13,244
What? Oh, I'm cussing like it's the morning

1675
00:58:13,244 --> 00:58:14,304
show, Steve. I'm forgetting.

1676
00:58:16,444 --> 00:58:18,444
I I wasn't good to say anything. I

1677
00:58:18,444 --> 00:58:20,784
was just making notes in my head of

1678
00:58:20,925 --> 00:58:23,085
the the right Christian f bomb tracker. Right.

1679
00:58:23,085 --> 00:58:24,045
When you're when I see you in the

1680
00:58:24,045 --> 00:58:25,324
in the stream, I'm feeling like we're on

1681
00:58:25,324 --> 00:58:26,609
the morning show, so I apologize for cuffing.

1682
00:58:26,609 --> 00:58:27,889
I don't usually do it on the IMA

1683
00:58:27,889 --> 00:58:29,510
or team up. But, anyway, go

1684
00:58:29,889 --> 00:58:30,389
ahead.

1685
00:58:31,329 --> 00:58:34,549
So the I mean, okay. So we're we're

1686
00:58:35,409 --> 00:58:36,309
we're watching

1687
00:58:37,409 --> 00:58:38,710
the controlled demolition

1688
00:58:39,329 --> 00:58:39,829
of

1689
00:58:40,514 --> 00:58:43,094
the political system, I think, with

1690
00:58:43,554 --> 00:58:46,295
AI as the replacement government in the background.

1691
00:58:46,434 --> 00:58:47,894
And this to me

1692
00:58:48,275 --> 00:58:50,855
this to me reminds me a lot of

1693
00:58:50,994 --> 00:58:51,734
the exposure

1694
00:58:52,034 --> 00:58:53,014
of Joe Biden

1695
00:58:54,039 --> 00:58:57,559
as, you know, a a brain addled kid

1696
00:58:57,559 --> 00:58:58,699
sniffing incompetent

1697
00:58:59,639 --> 00:59:00,139
who

1698
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,839
in no way, shape, or form is leading

1699
00:59:02,839 --> 00:59:05,880
the country as the elected president. You know?

1700
00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:08,219
Like, there were multiple mask off moments

1701
00:59:08,655 --> 00:59:11,135
for for Biden regarding that within the first

1702
00:59:11,135 --> 00:59:12,275
six to ten months,

1703
00:59:12,815 --> 00:59:13,875
of his administration.

1704
00:59:14,735 --> 00:59:15,875
With the Trump administration,

1705
00:59:16,494 --> 00:59:18,914
it seems to be like the same brutal

1706
00:59:19,054 --> 00:59:19,554
reveal,

1707
00:59:19,934 --> 00:59:21,554
but in a different way

1708
00:59:21,950 --> 00:59:24,829
to the MAGA base. Whereas, you know, the

1709
00:59:24,829 --> 00:59:27,630
the Democrats, you know, were making every excuse

1710
00:59:27,630 --> 00:59:29,550
under the sun of why this was the

1711
00:59:29,550 --> 00:59:31,550
sharpest Biden ever, and he's on it, and

1712
00:59:31,550 --> 00:59:33,410
he you know, all this. Now

1713
00:59:34,030 --> 00:59:36,050
that it's Trump, and he's doing

1714
00:59:36,545 --> 00:59:38,945
everything that we said was gonna happen that

1715
00:59:38,945 --> 00:59:41,045
we all got called crazy for.

1716
00:59:41,664 --> 00:59:44,244
It's making every excuse for, oh, well, there's

1717
00:59:44,385 --> 00:59:46,144
five d chess with the deep state, and

1718
00:59:46,144 --> 00:59:49,119
the PayPal mafia is in there because they're

1719
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:51,940
the good transhumanist billionaires, not the bad transhumanist

1720
00:59:52,239 --> 00:59:52,739
billionaires.

1721
00:59:53,039 --> 00:59:55,039
You know? It's and so it's weird how

1722
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:56,739
that inversion is played out.

1723
00:59:57,039 --> 00:59:59,519
But to me, it looks like the exact

1724
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:00,260
same reveal.

1725
01:00:01,175 --> 01:00:02,534
I agree. And it's a good way to

1726
01:00:02,534 --> 01:00:03,655
look at it because what it shows you

1727
01:00:03,655 --> 01:00:05,835
is that it's not unique to the caricature

1728
01:00:05,894 --> 01:00:07,094
they're putting in front of you. It's just

1729
01:00:07,094 --> 01:00:08,855
that and you could argue that you pick

1730
01:00:08,855 --> 01:00:10,775
people who can be used. Biden because he's

1731
01:00:10,775 --> 01:00:12,695
senile Trump because his hubris will run his

1732
01:00:12,695 --> 01:00:14,614
decision making process, and you could present him

1733
01:00:14,614 --> 01:00:16,135
with false choices and he thinks he's in

1734
01:00:16,135 --> 01:00:17,550
charge or maybe not. You know? But you

1735
01:00:17,550 --> 01:00:18,829
could look at it like that and see

1736
01:00:18,829 --> 01:00:20,590
that the mindset is, you know, get people

1737
01:00:20,590 --> 01:00:22,349
in position that we can simply snow and

1738
01:00:22,349 --> 01:00:24,750
use for the larger agenda. It makes sense

1739
01:00:24,750 --> 01:00:26,910
to me. It really does. You registered something

1740
01:00:26,910 --> 01:00:28,030
with me. And if you guys wanna end

1741
01:00:28,110 --> 01:00:30,125
let's end on the topic of the, you

1742
01:00:30,125 --> 01:00:32,605
know, the America party, which I do think

1743
01:00:32,605 --> 01:00:34,045
is really interesting. I was gonna talk about

1744
01:00:34,045 --> 01:00:35,324
it in my show yesterday, but I didn't

1745
01:00:35,324 --> 01:00:37,585
get to it. Like, the the weird split

1746
01:00:37,804 --> 01:00:39,484
and almost the kind of, like, we all

1747
01:00:39,484 --> 01:00:41,484
expect at this moment. The the third party

1748
01:00:41,484 --> 01:00:43,005
shoe. How long have we been waiting for

1749
01:00:43,005 --> 01:00:44,864
that to drop? Not the real, you know,

1750
01:00:45,039 --> 01:00:47,119
finally rise a third party fighting from grassroots,

1751
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:48,559
but, like, when they would take that and

1752
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,000
use it against us is what my point

1753
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:52,079
is. And so suddenly, we start seeing this.

1754
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:55,039
Elon, who's been cheerleading for the Republicans that

1755
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:56,239
are gonna save the world. Now we're like,

1756
01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:58,099
it's all a one party system. It's like,

1757
01:00:58,375 --> 01:01:00,055
how do you take someone seriously like that?

1758
01:01:00,055 --> 01:01:01,655
You know? Or or all these different things.

1759
01:01:01,655 --> 01:01:02,934
And what you brought up, Steve, that I

1760
01:01:02,934 --> 01:01:04,474
think is fascinating to think about,

1761
01:01:04,775 --> 01:01:07,094
he's been pushing the AI through Doge. He

1762
01:01:07,094 --> 01:01:07,914
has xAI.

1763
01:01:08,215 --> 01:01:10,235
He's roll now he's rolling the America party.

1764
01:01:10,295 --> 01:01:12,055
How long until that shoe drops and Elon

1765
01:01:12,055 --> 01:01:13,515
literally promotes it as

1766
01:01:13,849 --> 01:01:16,010
AI government? Like, that's an interesting way to

1767
01:01:16,010 --> 01:01:17,449
come around to that, and I let's that's

1768
01:01:17,449 --> 01:01:18,730
an we'll see if that happens. Okay. What

1769
01:01:18,730 --> 01:01:20,090
do you guys think about that? And just

1770
01:01:20,090 --> 01:01:21,469
the America party in general?

1771
01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:23,710
It feels like

1772
01:01:24,010 --> 01:01:26,030
that's a logical progression

1773
01:01:26,409 --> 01:01:27,070
for him.

1774
01:01:27,594 --> 01:01:28,094
Right?

1775
01:01:29,114 --> 01:01:30,894
The, it's a one nation

1776
01:01:31,355 --> 01:01:32,175
under Neuralink.

1777
01:01:32,954 --> 01:01:33,454
Ugh.

1778
01:01:33,994 --> 01:01:34,494
Yuck.

1779
01:01:35,434 --> 01:01:37,195
That's a terrible thought. What do you think?

1780
01:01:37,195 --> 01:01:39,535
With SpaceX and Starlink for all.

1781
01:01:42,410 --> 01:01:43,230
That's terrible.

1782
01:01:43,530 --> 01:01:44,329
Well, I mean, what do you guys think

1783
01:01:44,329 --> 01:01:45,769
about the America party part of it, though?

1784
01:01:45,769 --> 01:01:47,050
You know? Do you feel like there's some

1785
01:01:47,050 --> 01:01:48,969
genuine nature to that? Like, that Elon might

1786
01:01:48,969 --> 01:01:50,650
genuinely have woken up to the problem, and

1787
01:01:50,650 --> 01:01:52,190
we should hope for that. Right?

1788
01:01:53,369 --> 01:01:56,269
Anything that throws any kind of monkey wrench

1789
01:01:57,305 --> 01:01:59,565
into their plans, I'm in favor of.

1790
01:01:59,865 --> 01:02:02,345
But when it comes from Elon who's getting

1791
01:02:02,345 --> 01:02:05,065
government contracts, it's it's really tough for me

1792
01:02:05,065 --> 01:02:07,305
to to think of it as as an

1793
01:02:07,305 --> 01:02:08,525
authentic movement,

1794
01:02:09,385 --> 01:02:12,130
ditch ditch your government contracts then. You know?

1795
01:02:12,130 --> 01:02:14,389
Like, let's let's see what you got,

1796
01:02:14,849 --> 01:02:16,929
which, of course, won't happen. They need each

1797
01:02:16,929 --> 01:02:19,170
other. So it feels a bit like pro

1798
01:02:19,170 --> 01:02:21,409
wrestling to me. Yeah. Like, the the, you

1799
01:02:21,409 --> 01:02:22,949
know, we're gonna form the new,

1800
01:02:23,329 --> 01:02:24,230
you know, a new

1801
01:02:24,530 --> 01:02:27,030
team, and we're gonna come get Hulk Hogan

1802
01:02:27,924 --> 01:02:29,924
and the rest of those guys. I mean,

1803
01:02:29,924 --> 01:02:32,005
it just I don't know, man. When I

1804
01:02:32,005 --> 01:02:33,944
see Elon involved in it,

1805
01:02:35,125 --> 01:02:36,184
look, I do

1806
01:02:36,964 --> 01:02:38,905
believe that there is authentic

1807
01:02:39,284 --> 01:02:41,909
frustration with the system. There there is, obviously.

1808
01:02:42,069 --> 01:02:44,409
That that's real. There's a real resentment

1809
01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:46,250
towards the way things work.

1810
01:02:46,949 --> 01:02:49,849
But that's the sis the system is as

1811
01:02:49,909 --> 01:02:51,510
they say in Barnum World, you know, the

1812
01:02:51,510 --> 01:02:53,829
system is doing exactly as it was designed

1813
01:02:53,829 --> 01:02:56,394
to do. That's the thing is that you

1814
01:02:56,394 --> 01:02:57,694
can't fix

1815
01:02:57,994 --> 01:02:58,734
this system.

1816
01:02:59,114 --> 01:03:01,914
The system is not fixable. It is running

1817
01:03:01,914 --> 01:03:04,394
by design. You need to build a different

1818
01:03:04,394 --> 01:03:06,875
system and then lure people away. And Elon

1819
01:03:06,875 --> 01:03:08,980
Musk of all people should know that. Being

1820
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:10,920
somebody who who likes to kind of

1821
01:03:11,380 --> 01:03:13,460
reimagine, I don't know, the car industry and

1822
01:03:13,460 --> 01:03:15,800
not, you know and do things quite differently.

1823
01:03:16,340 --> 01:03:18,680
He he needs to build it first

1824
01:03:19,219 --> 01:03:19,880
and then

1825
01:03:20,420 --> 01:03:22,579
draw people into his way of thinking. And

1826
01:03:22,579 --> 01:03:23,079
maybe

1827
01:03:23,484 --> 01:03:24,304
maybe that's

1828
01:03:24,605 --> 01:03:26,945
his plan. Maybe this is all just theater.

1829
01:03:27,565 --> 01:03:28,364
I'm I'm,

1830
01:03:29,724 --> 01:03:31,804
I'm not voting for any of these people

1831
01:03:31,804 --> 01:03:33,724
anyway, so it doesn't matter to me. Yeah.

1832
01:03:33,724 --> 01:03:34,224
Yeah.

1833
01:03:34,925 --> 01:03:37,025
What do you think, Steve? I mean,

1834
01:03:38,429 --> 01:03:38,929
the

1835
01:03:39,869 --> 01:03:40,369
okay.

1836
01:03:41,949 --> 01:03:42,449
The

1837
01:03:43,869 --> 01:03:45,170
one business entity

1838
01:03:45,789 --> 01:03:46,769
that represents

1839
01:03:47,150 --> 01:03:49,789
the new face of government who, according to

1840
01:03:49,789 --> 01:03:52,849
Alex Jones, is the second most important person

1841
01:03:52,909 --> 01:03:53,925
in Space Force

1842
01:03:54,724 --> 01:03:55,385
who has

1843
01:03:55,844 --> 01:03:59,304
not just the Starlink contracts, but the StarShield

1844
01:03:59,844 --> 01:04:00,344
contracts

1845
01:04:01,045 --> 01:04:02,105
and the SpaceX

1846
01:04:02,405 --> 01:04:02,905
program

1847
01:04:03,204 --> 01:04:05,625
and the Boring Company and

1848
01:04:06,085 --> 01:04:06,744
the Neuralink

1849
01:04:07,045 --> 01:04:07,545
technology.

1850
01:04:07,925 --> 01:04:08,744
That guy

1851
01:04:09,429 --> 01:04:10,809
is so frustrated

1852
01:04:11,590 --> 01:04:12,090
with

1853
01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:13,849
the overall system

1854
01:04:14,150 --> 01:04:15,769
that in order to

1855
01:04:17,110 --> 01:04:17,929
save it,

1856
01:04:18,230 --> 01:04:21,190
he's going to form his own political party.

1857
01:04:21,190 --> 01:04:22,170
Because once

1858
01:04:22,954 --> 01:04:25,355
one or two people from that party get

1859
01:04:25,355 --> 01:04:26,255
into DC,

1860
01:04:26,795 --> 01:04:28,335
they're going to fundamentally

1861
01:04:28,635 --> 01:04:30,335
change the system from

1862
01:04:30,795 --> 01:04:33,594
the inside out. That's correct. That's correct. And

1863
01:04:33,594 --> 01:04:36,394
this you know, the it it really is.

1864
01:04:36,394 --> 01:04:36,875
It's like,

1865
01:04:38,750 --> 01:04:41,789
remember when Hulk Hogan and Macho Man Randy

1866
01:04:41,789 --> 01:04:43,409
Savage were tag team partners,

1867
01:04:44,190 --> 01:04:46,510
and, you know, they would they would, you

1868
01:04:46,510 --> 01:04:49,309
know, just run rough shot over the rest

1869
01:04:49,309 --> 01:04:50,210
of of WWE,

1870
01:04:50,750 --> 01:04:52,269
but then there would be that moment when

1871
01:04:52,269 --> 01:04:53,894
they fought and then they broke up and

1872
01:04:53,894 --> 01:04:55,655
then they had different tag team. Like, this

1873
01:04:55,655 --> 01:04:57,575
is exactly what that feels like to me.

1874
01:04:57,575 --> 01:04:59,575
I'm I'm gonna fully agree with the Charlie

1875
01:04:59,575 --> 01:05:01,594
on the pro wrestling element of it.

1876
01:05:01,974 --> 01:05:03,195
Oh, yeah.

1877
01:05:05,340 --> 01:05:08,700
We're gonna go into Washington here, and what

1878
01:05:08,700 --> 01:05:10,480
we're gonna do is we're gonna kick out

1879
01:05:10,619 --> 01:05:13,920
the swamp. We're gonna drain that swamp here.

1880
01:05:14,140 --> 01:05:16,140
Yeah. The and, yeah, man. I'm people are

1881
01:05:16,140 --> 01:05:18,320
gonna fall. I am a real

1882
01:05:18,780 --> 01:05:19,280
American.

1883
01:05:19,644 --> 01:05:21,724
Gonna use AI to drain the swamp, though.

1884
01:05:21,724 --> 01:05:23,885
See that? This is how it's different this

1885
01:05:23,885 --> 01:05:26,545
time Mhmm. Because it's gonna be

1886
01:05:26,845 --> 01:05:29,644
AI government. Don't you see? And they were

1887
01:05:29,644 --> 01:05:30,625
the white hats.

1888
01:05:30,925 --> 01:05:32,605
The white hats have to you have to

1889
01:05:32,605 --> 01:05:34,650
have the good brain chips before you get

1890
01:05:34,650 --> 01:05:36,250
the bad brain chip. I mean, we all

1891
01:05:36,250 --> 01:05:38,650
know how it plays out. This is this

1892
01:05:38,650 --> 01:05:39,449
is the

1893
01:05:40,650 --> 01:05:43,230
this this is how you incrementally move

1894
01:05:43,769 --> 01:05:44,989
society towards

1895
01:05:45,929 --> 01:05:46,429
technocracy.

1896
01:05:47,434 --> 01:05:49,675
Yep. I mean, I think the obvious point

1897
01:05:49,675 --> 01:05:51,755
is about, you know, whether you ignore whether

1898
01:05:51,755 --> 01:05:53,034
you don't agree you know, maybe you don't

1899
01:05:53,034 --> 01:05:54,235
agree with all the points you're making about

1900
01:05:54,235 --> 01:05:55,675
where this seems to be going. Consider it.

1901
01:05:55,675 --> 01:05:57,755
But even aside from that, you know, you

1902
01:05:57,914 --> 01:06:00,630
you're taking a a a system that Trump

1903
01:06:00,630 --> 01:06:03,670
and Elon and everybody else's conversation has spent

1904
01:06:03,670 --> 01:06:06,230
years criticizing left and right, not not just

1905
01:06:06,230 --> 01:06:07,989
because you need a new party, but telling

1906
01:06:07,989 --> 01:06:09,190
you that it doesn't work. You know, they've

1907
01:06:09,190 --> 01:06:11,029
broken this. They're cheating there. They're lying. They're

1908
01:06:11,029 --> 01:06:12,710
telling you the deep state's controlling everything, and

1909
01:06:12,710 --> 01:06:14,329
now he wants to start a new party

1910
01:06:14,549 --> 01:06:16,304
through that? How do you explain that? How

1911
01:06:16,304 --> 01:06:17,905
do you make sense of working through a

1912
01:06:17,905 --> 01:06:20,304
controlled deep state democrat run pedophile system, but

1913
01:06:20,304 --> 01:06:21,505
we're gonna do it the right way? It's

1914
01:06:21,505 --> 01:06:23,684
like, I just it's it's just so inherently

1915
01:06:23,744 --> 01:06:26,144
stupid when you think about the facts, but

1916
01:06:26,144 --> 01:06:28,029
people will want it. You know? And I

1917
01:06:28,150 --> 01:06:29,989
we all right ahead of files in there

1918
01:06:29,989 --> 01:06:30,650
this time.

1919
01:06:30,949 --> 01:06:31,449
Exactly.

1920
01:06:31,750 --> 01:06:33,210
That's the missing component.

1921
01:06:33,750 --> 01:06:35,030
And but we all get it, though. Right?

1922
01:06:35,030 --> 01:06:37,510
We understand why people want an answer. They

1923
01:06:37,510 --> 01:06:39,269
want a savior. They want because we are

1924
01:06:39,269 --> 01:06:41,670
living through a very ridiculous and dark time

1925
01:06:41,670 --> 01:06:44,304
by I think by design, but we're trying

1926
01:06:44,304 --> 01:06:45,905
to call attention to the facts. And if,

1927
01:06:45,905 --> 01:06:46,945
you know, if we if you want the

1928
01:06:46,945 --> 01:06:48,545
head in the sand, snowy vision, you know,

1929
01:06:48,545 --> 01:06:50,144
you can find that every day out there.

1930
01:06:50,144 --> 01:06:52,224
But the truth is important because we're trying

1931
01:06:52,224 --> 01:06:53,744
to change it for the better, not just

1932
01:06:53,744 --> 01:06:55,265
pretend we live in what we want. You

1933
01:06:55,265 --> 01:06:57,250
know? So, but and I and I'll end

1934
01:06:57,250 --> 01:07:00,049
my personal point. I do again think that

1935
01:07:00,049 --> 01:07:02,049
the vast majority of Americans from an American

1936
01:07:02,049 --> 01:07:04,529
perspective are willing and ready to start asking

1937
01:07:04,529 --> 01:07:06,769
and talking about these questions. It's just about

1938
01:07:06,769 --> 01:07:08,289
trying to get you know, it's like with

1939
01:07:08,289 --> 01:07:10,789
COVID-nineteen where we're in that limbo moment where

1940
01:07:10,954 --> 01:07:12,074
we were trying to say, look. You're not

1941
01:07:12,074 --> 01:07:13,594
alone. You're not the crazy person in the

1942
01:07:13,594 --> 01:07:15,275
corner like the media is telling you. If

1943
01:07:15,275 --> 01:07:17,355
you look around, everyone's feeling like that right

1944
01:07:17,355 --> 01:07:19,755
now. We need that breakthrough watershed moment right

1945
01:07:19,755 --> 01:07:21,114
now. That's what I would argue, and that's

1946
01:07:21,114 --> 01:07:22,795
hard to make. It really is. But I'll

1947
01:07:22,795 --> 01:07:24,074
leave it with that if you guys wanna

1948
01:07:24,074 --> 01:07:25,534
have any comments to end with.

1949
01:07:26,869 --> 01:07:29,690
No. These are just these are, always fascinating,

1950
01:07:29,829 --> 01:07:31,989
and, you know, thanks as always to to

1951
01:07:31,989 --> 01:07:32,969
Catherine for,

1952
01:07:33,989 --> 01:07:36,890
coming in and giving her time. Yeah. Yeah.

1953
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:40,425
I agree. It we've gotta have the talk

1954
01:07:40,585 --> 01:07:43,085
about it, you know, so that we know

1955
01:07:44,105 --> 01:07:46,105
what's out there and so that we can

1956
01:07:46,105 --> 01:07:46,925
plan accordingly

1957
01:07:47,304 --> 01:07:49,405
and and and do what we can to

1958
01:07:49,545 --> 01:07:50,285
gum up

1959
01:07:50,744 --> 01:07:53,785
the system or, as James Corbett says, salt

1960
01:07:53,785 --> 01:07:54,525
your information.

1961
01:07:55,139 --> 01:07:56,839
You know? Yeah. Yeah. Give them more.

1962
01:07:57,219 --> 01:07:57,719
Absolutely.

1963
01:07:58,099 --> 01:07:59,460
Well, you know, I think it's important to

1964
01:07:59,460 --> 01:08:01,059
keep having this conversation. You know, we will

1965
01:08:01,059 --> 01:08:02,739
be having more. There's plenty more to come,

1966
01:08:02,739 --> 01:08:04,179
and I'm looking forward to the next one,

1967
01:08:04,179 --> 01:08:05,719
guys. So we'll leave it there for today.

1968
01:08:06,019 --> 01:08:08,385
And I'll end it as anything else?

1969
01:08:08,784 --> 01:08:11,125
Nope. Thanks for thanks for having us.

1970
01:08:11,505 --> 01:08:13,925
And as always, everybody out there question everything.

1971
01:08:14,065 --> 01:08:15,284
Come to your own conclusions.

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01:08:15,585 --> 01:08:16,405
Stay vigilant.