1 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,640 Welcome to the last American vagabond. Joining me 2 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,599 today is Robert Inlakesh here to discuss what's 3 00:00:29,599 --> 00:00:30,879 going on in the world to get caught 4 00:00:30,879 --> 00:00:33,119 up, just, you know, all these different perspectives 5 00:00:33,119 --> 00:00:35,359 on the many different fields of war, the 6 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:37,600 many different propaganda tactics, the many different things 7 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:39,405 going on in foreign policy, and, you know, 8 00:00:39,405 --> 00:00:40,765 just to kinda get caught up on what 9 00:00:40,765 --> 00:00:42,604 he sees in the world today because, you 10 00:00:42,604 --> 00:00:44,045 know, very few people out there are as 11 00:00:44,045 --> 00:00:45,804 immersed in these topics as Robert is. So 12 00:00:45,804 --> 00:00:47,244 let's start off today, Robert. How are you, 13 00:00:47,244 --> 00:00:48,704 by the way? How are you doing today? 14 00:00:48,765 --> 00:00:50,604 Yeah. I'm doing as well as I possibly 15 00:00:50,604 --> 00:00:53,004 can be, and, thanks for having me back. 16 00:00:53,004 --> 00:00:54,780 Yeah. My pleasure, brother. So let's start with 17 00:00:54,780 --> 00:00:56,059 whatever it is that's going on. There's so 18 00:00:56,059 --> 00:00:57,820 many different topics, obviously. I've got plenty of 19 00:00:57,820 --> 00:00:59,659 stuff lined up. But, you know, what what 20 00:00:59,659 --> 00:01:01,259 today what's the one thing that, you know, 21 00:01:01,259 --> 00:01:02,460 if I ask you is the most pressing 22 00:01:02,460 --> 00:01:03,659 on your mind, what is it right now 23 00:01:03,659 --> 00:01:05,280 to you that that jumps to the forefront? 24 00:01:05,884 --> 00:01:08,125 It would definitely be what's happening in Gaza 25 00:01:08,125 --> 00:01:09,424 with the ongoing genocide, 26 00:01:10,444 --> 00:01:13,804 and the escalation of air strikes and perhaps 27 00:01:13,804 --> 00:01:14,944 the Gaza humanitarian 28 00:01:15,965 --> 00:01:17,424 foundation, which is, 29 00:01:18,219 --> 00:01:19,040 a privatized 30 00:01:19,340 --> 00:01:22,319 aid project, which was spearheaded by the Israelis 31 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:25,200 using American privatized con companies 32 00:01:25,980 --> 00:01:27,040 and also collaborating 33 00:01:27,900 --> 00:01:30,079 with ISIS linked gangs 34 00:01:30,644 --> 00:01:33,204 that were previously used to loot aid and 35 00:01:33,204 --> 00:01:35,864 now continue to loot aid, but also, 36 00:01:36,885 --> 00:01:39,444 attack people and are used to, 37 00:01:39,844 --> 00:01:40,344 secure, 38 00:01:41,045 --> 00:01:41,784 a transfers 39 00:01:42,165 --> 00:01:42,905 they claim. 40 00:01:43,590 --> 00:01:44,890 And now they're, you know, 41 00:01:45,270 --> 00:01:47,049 advertising this ISIS linked 42 00:01:47,989 --> 00:01:50,170 group of gangsters, criminals, and, 43 00:01:50,790 --> 00:01:51,290 thugs 44 00:01:51,829 --> 00:01:54,969 as a grassroots resistance to Hamas, 45 00:01:55,349 --> 00:01:56,415 the Gaza Strip. 46 00:01:57,055 --> 00:02:00,254 So that situation and specifically looking at, what's 47 00:02:00,254 --> 00:02:03,314 happening with the aid distribution sites and Israel 48 00:02:04,254 --> 00:02:06,194 now having killed 600 49 00:02:06,334 --> 00:02:06,834 Palestinians 50 00:02:07,295 --> 00:02:08,995 as they were seeking aid, 51 00:02:09,455 --> 00:02:11,955 essentially luring them into a death trap, 52 00:02:12,569 --> 00:02:15,050 offering them scraps of food, and then shooting 53 00:02:15,050 --> 00:02:17,069 them when they try and get those, 54 00:02:17,610 --> 00:02:19,870 scraps of food that they're offering. 55 00:02:20,489 --> 00:02:22,669 That would probably be the most pressing thing, 56 00:02:23,289 --> 00:02:24,110 right now. 57 00:02:24,435 --> 00:02:26,355 But as you know, there's a a range 58 00:02:26,355 --> 00:02:29,155 of different developments in the region. Yeah. In 59 00:02:29,155 --> 00:02:31,474 any moment, one of them could explode and 60 00:02:31,474 --> 00:02:33,155 become the big news story. But I I 61 00:02:33,155 --> 00:02:35,895 think, you know, the Gaza story has, 62 00:02:36,275 --> 00:02:36,775 faded, 63 00:02:37,409 --> 00:02:39,750 especially the issue of the Gaza Humanitarian 64 00:02:40,129 --> 00:02:40,629 Foundation, 65 00:02:42,289 --> 00:02:43,349 so called Humanitarian 66 00:02:43,650 --> 00:02:45,650 Foundation. The way that they name these things 67 00:02:45,650 --> 00:02:46,050 is, 68 00:02:46,770 --> 00:02:47,270 sadistic, 69 00:02:47,889 --> 00:02:48,709 in my opinion. 70 00:02:50,175 --> 00:02:52,944 So, yeah, that that sort of faded from 71 00:02:52,944 --> 00:02:55,294 the headlines even when we're talking about Gaza. 72 00:02:55,294 --> 00:02:57,074 There's a lot of discussion of the bombings, 73 00:02:57,455 --> 00:03:00,495 but not as much, focus on these, aid 74 00:03:00,495 --> 00:03:02,334 sites, which Trump, by the way, has just 75 00:03:02,334 --> 00:03:04,814 pledged that he'll give $30,000,000 76 00:03:04,814 --> 00:03:05,474 to fund, 77 00:03:06,060 --> 00:03:08,719 which is essentially an assembly line, 78 00:03:10,219 --> 00:03:10,960 mass murder, 79 00:03:11,580 --> 00:03:14,699 project where you get people to herd towards 80 00:03:14,699 --> 00:03:17,360 an area, herd them like cattle towards slaughter. 81 00:03:18,485 --> 00:03:20,724 Yeah. And that'd be references to Squid Game, 82 00:03:20,965 --> 00:03:22,645 you know, Hunger Games. I mean, all these 83 00:03:22,645 --> 00:03:24,724 different analogy or, you know, comparisons that I 84 00:03:24,724 --> 00:03:26,965 think are very clearly apt. It's obvious what's 85 00:03:26,965 --> 00:03:28,485 been going on. We were covering this in 86 00:03:28,485 --> 00:03:29,844 the beginning as I'm sure you were about 87 00:03:29,844 --> 00:03:31,284 the very first day and sort of your 88 00:03:31,365 --> 00:03:33,544 like your coverage of Serena Boucle and others. 89 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,120 The story morphs in in the first forty 90 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:37,560 eight hours, in the first you know, every 91 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,080 day to day, the story changes from, no, 92 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,360 we shot above them. Oh, no. It was 93 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:41,960 them or they shot first. And until, you 94 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:43,400 know, it just drifts away. And and then 95 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,159 the next day, the day after the day 96 00:03:45,159 --> 00:03:47,414 after that, multiple reports have continued shooting. It 97 00:03:47,414 --> 00:03:48,935 just drifted away. Right? So they they have 98 00:03:48,935 --> 00:03:51,094 been executing people in these lines. It's just 99 00:03:51,094 --> 00:03:53,574 grotesque. Doctors' testimony about it. So I want 100 00:03:53,655 --> 00:03:55,495 before we get into that, and I want 101 00:03:55,495 --> 00:03:57,495 more we hear more about the, you know, 102 00:03:57,495 --> 00:03:59,254 what just the whole dynamic and how you 103 00:03:59,254 --> 00:04:01,319 see this going forward. But you mentioned ISIS 104 00:04:01,319 --> 00:04:02,680 linked groups. So let's talk about that first. 105 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,699 Give us give people listening more insight on 106 00:04:05,319 --> 00:04:08,039 the GHF, the the Gaza Health Foundation, the 107 00:04:08,039 --> 00:04:08,620 the ridiculous 108 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 fake, you know, whatever. Give us insight of 109 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 that group, the Mossad overlap, you know, the 110 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,479 manipulation that it is, and the ISIS linked 111 00:04:15,479 --> 00:04:17,665 groups. And, you know, anywhere you wanna go 112 00:04:17,665 --> 00:04:19,504 around that because as you you clearly indicated 113 00:04:19,504 --> 00:04:21,425 there, this is not a new dynamic. You 114 00:04:21,425 --> 00:04:23,345 know, the new rebels fighting the, you know, 115 00:04:23,345 --> 00:04:24,785 like, the new moderate rebels kind of a 116 00:04:24,785 --> 00:04:27,264 game. So talk about the foundation and then 117 00:04:27,264 --> 00:04:28,625 really give us some deep background on the 118 00:04:28,625 --> 00:04:30,305 ISIS linked group. I wanna hear more about 119 00:04:30,305 --> 00:04:30,805 that. 120 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,040 Well, I I think addressing the ISIS linked 121 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,520 gangs and then, putting that together with what's 122 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,319 happening with the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is, where 123 00:04:39,319 --> 00:04:41,020 this conversation should start, 124 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:42,060 because 125 00:04:42,520 --> 00:04:43,660 these gangsters, 126 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:45,964 sure, led by 127 00:04:46,384 --> 00:04:46,884 a 128 00:04:47,305 --> 00:04:47,805 criminal 129 00:04:48,185 --> 00:04:50,204 named Yasser Abu Sheba, 130 00:04:51,464 --> 00:04:53,805 are were essentially used by the Israelis 131 00:04:54,264 --> 00:04:58,504 after Israel invaded Rafah in sovereign Gaza last 132 00:04:58,504 --> 00:04:59,004 year. 133 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:01,419 They essentially 134 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,639 created a safe zone for them, which is 135 00:05:03,639 --> 00:05:06,060 a kill zone for anyone else, including, 136 00:05:06,439 --> 00:05:08,839 you know, emergency workers if there's a bombing 137 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:10,540 in the area and they want to inspect, 138 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:13,259 and they wanna come close to this area, 139 00:05:13,479 --> 00:05:15,259 which is, in the East, 140 00:05:15,754 --> 00:05:17,774 Eastern portion of Southern Gaza. 141 00:05:18,394 --> 00:05:20,714 They set up these gangsters there, and the 142 00:05:20,714 --> 00:05:22,714 only way that the aid trucks could go 143 00:05:22,714 --> 00:05:25,274 in was through this territory. And what the 144 00:05:25,274 --> 00:05:27,834 Israelis would do is they coordinated with these 145 00:05:27,834 --> 00:05:29,514 gangs, and they were a few 100. They 146 00:05:29,514 --> 00:05:31,230 numbered a few 100 at the time, these 147 00:05:31,230 --> 00:05:34,290 gang members, who were primarily from, 148 00:05:35,149 --> 00:05:36,290 a number of Bedouin, 149 00:05:37,870 --> 00:05:38,370 tribes 150 00:05:39,069 --> 00:05:43,089 that exist in Gaza, but also their, family 151 00:05:43,149 --> 00:05:43,649 links 152 00:05:44,745 --> 00:05:45,964 expand into 153 00:05:46,425 --> 00:05:49,084 what's now considered Israeli territory, 154 00:05:50,185 --> 00:05:51,725 in the Nakab or Negev, 155 00:05:52,105 --> 00:05:53,564 desert area. Beresaba, 156 00:05:54,264 --> 00:05:57,144 is a major city there, and into the 157 00:05:57,144 --> 00:05:57,644 Egyptian 158 00:05:58,024 --> 00:05:58,524 Sinai. 159 00:05:59,029 --> 00:05:59,689 And so 160 00:06:00,310 --> 00:06:03,509 these groups and it's not by any means 161 00:06:03,509 --> 00:06:05,910 to say that the entire Bedouin families are 162 00:06:05,910 --> 00:06:08,150 like this. In fact, they've, the families have 163 00:06:08,150 --> 00:06:09,129 officially condemned 164 00:06:09,509 --> 00:06:12,150 these militants at this point, but they drew 165 00:06:12,150 --> 00:06:13,210 from these, 166 00:06:15,125 --> 00:06:15,704 these families 167 00:06:17,125 --> 00:06:19,224 and specifically focused on 168 00:06:20,485 --> 00:06:20,985 recruiting 169 00:06:21,604 --> 00:06:22,104 criminals 170 00:06:22,485 --> 00:06:24,264 who had escaped from 171 00:06:24,564 --> 00:06:26,264 jails in the Gaza Strip, 172 00:06:27,310 --> 00:06:30,189 police stations that were bombed. The entrances were 173 00:06:30,189 --> 00:06:33,229 bombed by the Israelis at the beginning of 174 00:06:33,229 --> 00:06:35,089 the genocide in 2023. 175 00:06:35,229 --> 00:06:38,449 And these individuals who, like Yasser Abu Shebaab, 176 00:06:39,024 --> 00:06:42,384 guilty of trafficking drugs. There's others. There's one 177 00:06:42,384 --> 00:06:44,084 guy whose name is Shadi Asufi. 178 00:06:44,545 --> 00:06:46,245 He was a convicted murderer, 179 00:06:46,944 --> 00:06:48,785 who had fled to the Sinai at one 180 00:06:48,785 --> 00:06:49,915 point to try and evade, 181 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:53,480 the law in the Gaza Strip and be 182 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:55,800 arrested. He was set to be executed before 183 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,779 Israel bombed, 184 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,060 the prison and allowed him to exit. 185 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,199 Set set to be executed by who? Who 186 00:07:02,199 --> 00:07:04,360 was the one saying that? By by Gaza? 187 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,120 The hell by Gaza authorities or by from 188 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,245 Israeli authorities? The Gaza authorities. So the authorities, 189 00:07:09,305 --> 00:07:10,665 Hamas, obviously, were, 190 00:07:11,105 --> 00:07:11,545 the, 191 00:07:11,944 --> 00:07:13,084 government in Gaza. 192 00:07:13,464 --> 00:07:15,464 And so they had a police force, of 193 00:07:15,464 --> 00:07:17,084 course, and a security apparatus. 194 00:07:17,384 --> 00:07:19,305 And so they would do things like, for 195 00:07:19,305 --> 00:07:22,879 instance, crackdown on, the smuggling of drugs across 196 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:24,100 the, Egyptian 197 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,060 border. 198 00:07:25,439 --> 00:07:26,800 And it was these groups, 199 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:29,860 that we now see today, these thugs 200 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,100 that we see today who 201 00:07:32,705 --> 00:07:34,245 were involved in facilitating 202 00:07:34,545 --> 00:07:37,125 the transfer of drugs into the Gaza Strip, 203 00:07:37,665 --> 00:07:40,384 and long known many of them as well 204 00:07:40,384 --> 00:07:41,205 to be collaborators 205 00:07:41,665 --> 00:07:44,085 with the Israelis and and to have spied, 206 00:07:44,705 --> 00:07:45,205 and 207 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:46,490 committed murder, 208 00:07:47,349 --> 00:07:50,470 you know, trafficking, all sorts of these, these 209 00:07:50,470 --> 00:07:52,949 crimes. So these are criminals, essentially. These are 210 00:07:52,949 --> 00:07:53,449 outlaws. 211 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:57,509 Israel then used these outlaws when the time, 212 00:07:57,669 --> 00:07:59,985 the an opportune time came for them, which 213 00:07:59,985 --> 00:08:02,404 was when they invaded Rafa. Because 214 00:08:02,705 --> 00:08:03,205 before, 215 00:08:03,985 --> 00:08:06,404 what happened in this the Gaza Strip is, 216 00:08:06,705 --> 00:08:08,645 they had tried to use collaborators 217 00:08:09,425 --> 00:08:11,685 in order to steal the aid, 218 00:08:12,384 --> 00:08:13,365 to sow chaos, 219 00:08:14,610 --> 00:08:16,550 to attack and even replace, 220 00:08:16,930 --> 00:08:19,750 that's what their aim was, to replace the, 221 00:08:20,129 --> 00:08:23,250 internal security force, which obviously is linked to 222 00:08:23,250 --> 00:08:23,750 Hamas, 223 00:08:25,009 --> 00:08:27,375 with these fucks. But they didn't get away 224 00:08:27,375 --> 00:08:28,435 with it until 225 00:08:28,894 --> 00:08:32,595 Rafah was invaded, and Israel got full control 226 00:08:33,375 --> 00:08:36,735 over the Egyptian Gaza border area. And so 227 00:08:36,735 --> 00:08:39,534 then, like I was explaining before, the aid 228 00:08:39,534 --> 00:08:40,674 had to come in 229 00:08:41,379 --> 00:08:43,799 specifically under Israeli supervision. 230 00:08:45,220 --> 00:08:47,779 There was no policeman there. The Hamas police 231 00:08:47,779 --> 00:08:50,259 couldn't get near this area to try and 232 00:08:50,259 --> 00:08:51,320 secure the aid, 233 00:08:51,860 --> 00:08:53,779 or they would be killed. They were taken 234 00:08:53,779 --> 00:08:54,919 out in air strikes. 235 00:08:55,485 --> 00:08:57,024 And so when the, 236 00:08:57,485 --> 00:08:58,865 the international organizations, 237 00:08:59,245 --> 00:09:01,884 the humanitarian organizations would bring in food aid, 238 00:09:01,884 --> 00:09:03,485 they would bring in fuel or whatever they 239 00:09:03,485 --> 00:09:06,205 would bring in the small quantities which were 240 00:09:06,205 --> 00:09:07,105 allowed in. 241 00:09:07,419 --> 00:09:09,419 And this is something that not all of 242 00:09:09,419 --> 00:09:12,080 them could say outright. They couldn't admit it, 243 00:09:12,700 --> 00:09:14,779 because, of course, you can't admit to every 244 00:09:14,779 --> 00:09:16,639 single time you take aid into Gaza, 245 00:09:17,100 --> 00:09:19,660 you have to pay a bribe. Right. But 246 00:09:19,660 --> 00:09:21,440 they were forced to pay bribes 247 00:09:22,125 --> 00:09:23,105 to Abu Shabaab 248 00:09:23,965 --> 00:09:26,065 who runs this ISIS linked, 249 00:09:27,485 --> 00:09:27,985 gang 250 00:09:28,445 --> 00:09:30,865 that operates under full Israeli supervision. 251 00:09:31,245 --> 00:09:34,465 Now we've seen they have Israeli tactical vests, 252 00:09:34,769 --> 00:09:37,029 Israeli military helmets, Israeli, 253 00:09:38,290 --> 00:09:40,470 weapons that were supplied to them. 254 00:09:41,410 --> 00:09:44,129 They these humanitarian organizations had to send their 255 00:09:44,129 --> 00:09:46,450 trucks for theirs. So they would either pay 256 00:09:46,450 --> 00:09:47,029 the bribe 257 00:09:47,384 --> 00:09:48,764 or they would be ambushed, 258 00:09:49,144 --> 00:09:50,845 and the food would be taken, 259 00:09:51,625 --> 00:09:54,024 and essentially brought to these warehouses, which the 260 00:09:54,024 --> 00:09:56,585 Israelis have full view and knowledge of. And 261 00:09:56,585 --> 00:09:59,629 then what Abu Shebaab's men would do is 262 00:09:59,629 --> 00:10:01,710 that they would take this food aid, and 263 00:10:01,710 --> 00:10:03,950 they would drip feed it into different areas 264 00:10:03,950 --> 00:10:05,970 in Gaza onto the black market. 265 00:10:06,269 --> 00:10:08,509 And what happened because of that and because 266 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:11,649 the humanitarian organizations really didn't have a choice, 267 00:10:11,764 --> 00:10:13,524 they had to pay the bribes. They had 268 00:10:13,524 --> 00:10:16,004 to just accept that bunches of their aid 269 00:10:16,004 --> 00:10:17,845 and sometimes the entire aid truck would be 270 00:10:17,845 --> 00:10:18,825 looted and taken 271 00:10:19,205 --> 00:10:21,144 away. They essentially, 272 00:10:21,764 --> 00:10:22,264 unfortunately, 273 00:10:22,884 --> 00:10:23,384 accepted, 274 00:10:24,164 --> 00:10:25,465 the situation where 275 00:10:25,940 --> 00:10:27,960 the prices were hyped up at the markets 276 00:10:28,019 --> 00:10:30,899 for food in Gaza. So only if you 277 00:10:30,899 --> 00:10:33,139 were wealthy enough would you be able to 278 00:10:33,139 --> 00:10:35,860 buy food to feed your family from these 279 00:10:35,860 --> 00:10:38,339 markets, and the aid that came in was 280 00:10:38,339 --> 00:10:40,384 not enough for the people as we saw 281 00:10:40,384 --> 00:10:42,644 over a large period of time now, 282 00:10:43,264 --> 00:10:46,784 especially children, the elderly, vulnerable people, people with 283 00:10:46,784 --> 00:10:47,284 preexisting, 284 00:10:48,304 --> 00:10:50,404 medical conditions have died of starvation, 285 00:10:51,105 --> 00:10:51,605 malnutrition. 286 00:10:52,065 --> 00:10:53,424 Many people have different, 287 00:10:54,550 --> 00:10:55,290 chronic illnesses 288 00:10:55,750 --> 00:10:57,509 that have come on because of the conditions 289 00:10:57,509 --> 00:10:59,930 that they're living under. And then what happened 290 00:11:00,070 --> 00:11:01,050 after the ceasefire, 291 00:11:01,670 --> 00:11:03,850 came in earlier this year and Israel violated 292 00:11:03,910 --> 00:11:05,050 it is they transformed 293 00:11:05,509 --> 00:11:06,970 this criminal militia 294 00:11:07,605 --> 00:11:08,105 into 295 00:11:08,565 --> 00:11:10,264 a grassroots resistance 296 00:11:11,044 --> 00:11:14,164 against Hamas, they're saying. And then this militia 297 00:11:14,164 --> 00:11:18,404 force now carries out operations against Hamas for 298 00:11:18,404 --> 00:11:19,225 the Israelis, 299 00:11:20,399 --> 00:11:21,860 and also what it does 300 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:24,799 aside from looting aid continuing to do that, 301 00:11:24,799 --> 00:11:27,440 and there are definitely cases documented cases where 302 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:28,339 they've done this, 303 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,740 they also are collaborating, 304 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,580 and they are the force 305 00:11:32,894 --> 00:11:34,894 that is supposed to be, at least on 306 00:11:34,894 --> 00:11:36,754 paper, securing aid, 307 00:11:37,375 --> 00:11:37,875 transfers, 308 00:11:38,495 --> 00:11:39,955 with the Gaza Humanitarian 309 00:11:40,335 --> 00:11:43,555 Foundation. Mhmm. So all of this is interlinked, 310 00:11:44,254 --> 00:11:46,850 and we haven't even gotten into the ISIS 311 00:11:46,850 --> 00:11:48,709 links to these groups because these, 312 00:11:49,250 --> 00:11:52,389 you know, many of these, militants, these criminals, 313 00:11:53,250 --> 00:11:56,529 were either formerly members of, Da'esh, the black 314 00:11:56,529 --> 00:11:58,629 branch of Da'esh, which, or ISIS, 315 00:11:58,995 --> 00:12:01,634 which emerged in the Gaza Strip in 02/2015, 316 00:12:01,634 --> 00:12:03,975 which Hamas cracked down on and destroyed 317 00:12:04,434 --> 00:12:06,674 that very same year. It tried to come 318 00:12:06,674 --> 00:12:09,315 back in waves after that. Hamas had to 319 00:12:09,315 --> 00:12:10,934 confront it. In 2018, 320 00:12:11,154 --> 00:12:12,774 ISIS declared war on Hamas, 321 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:15,279 because it was cracking down on these groups. 322 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:18,259 But they were also part of different Salafist 323 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,100 groups linked to Al Qaeda. 324 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:23,620 These these thugs and these criminals, 325 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:26,179 who who operate in the same networks, 326 00:12:27,875 --> 00:12:29,574 going all the way back into, 327 00:12:30,194 --> 00:12:31,414 the late two thousands. 328 00:12:31,875 --> 00:12:33,574 So we're talking about 329 00:12:33,954 --> 00:12:35,414 people who have been hardened, 330 00:12:35,794 --> 00:12:36,294 salafist 331 00:12:36,754 --> 00:12:37,254 militants, 332 00:12:38,194 --> 00:12:40,615 combined with your common thieves 333 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:42,720 and criminals and murderers 334 00:12:43,179 --> 00:12:44,480 who have essentially 335 00:12:45,820 --> 00:12:48,139 collaborated with the Israelis and been armed by 336 00:12:48,139 --> 00:12:48,799 the Israelis 337 00:12:49,179 --> 00:12:52,159 as a so called grassroots resistance to Hamas, 338 00:12:52,539 --> 00:12:54,620 which nobody in Gaza accepts, by the way. 339 00:12:54,620 --> 00:12:55,279 But, unfortunately, 340 00:12:55,955 --> 00:12:57,634 they have to accept that they exist and 341 00:12:57,634 --> 00:12:59,075 that the aid is coming in that way 342 00:12:59,075 --> 00:13:01,875 because they don't have anything to eat. Before 343 00:13:01,875 --> 00:13:03,394 we go on to those other many other 344 00:13:03,394 --> 00:13:05,315 points that we're gonna flesh out, the point 345 00:13:05,315 --> 00:13:06,835 about right there where you highlighted about the 346 00:13:06,835 --> 00:13:09,970 emergence of of that ISIS element in Gaza, 347 00:13:10,029 --> 00:13:11,950 what's your opinion on that? We've talked in 348 00:13:11,950 --> 00:13:13,549 the past, you and I, about the the 349 00:13:13,549 --> 00:13:14,049 obvious 350 00:13:14,589 --> 00:13:16,990 general sentiment of the, you know, ISIS, Al 351 00:13:16,990 --> 00:13:19,570 Qaeda being essentially proxy elements of these powers. 352 00:13:19,629 --> 00:13:21,950 That's not it's a very nuanced conversation. There's 353 00:13:21,950 --> 00:13:23,470 many moving parts to it as you point 354 00:13:23,470 --> 00:13:25,695 out. But so in your opinion right there, 355 00:13:25,695 --> 00:13:28,495 is that an organic thing that that was 356 00:13:28,495 --> 00:13:30,095 then pushed back? I mean, it's obvious to 357 00:13:30,095 --> 00:13:31,695 show that that ISIS and Hamas are not 358 00:13:31,695 --> 00:13:33,154 the same thing, and that many overlapping 359 00:13:33,535 --> 00:13:35,934 examples throughout the year show you that ISIS 360 00:13:35,934 --> 00:13:37,695 is very close to the Israeli US kind 361 00:13:37,695 --> 00:13:39,295 of establishment. But in that moment, is that 362 00:13:39,295 --> 00:13:40,629 an organic thing, or do you think that's 363 00:13:40,629 --> 00:13:43,129 something they created and kept trying to institute 364 00:13:43,429 --> 00:13:45,450 in that location? What's your opinion on that? 365 00:13:46,149 --> 00:13:48,149 My opinion, I don't have proof that the 366 00:13:48,149 --> 00:13:49,450 Israelis set up, 367 00:13:49,990 --> 00:13:53,289 the Gaza wing of ISIS in 02/2015, 368 00:13:53,834 --> 00:13:55,595 but my guess would be that they were 369 00:13:55,595 --> 00:13:56,735 implicated in it. 370 00:13:57,595 --> 00:13:58,574 I don't see 371 00:13:59,115 --> 00:14:02,475 how these groups were operating otherwise. Mhmm. 372 00:14:02,875 --> 00:14:03,375 And 373 00:14:03,754 --> 00:14:06,394 especially even the declaration of war against Hamas 374 00:14:06,394 --> 00:14:07,454 and how antithetical 375 00:14:07,834 --> 00:14:08,495 they were, 376 00:14:09,570 --> 00:14:11,509 Even in in 02/2015, 377 00:14:12,769 --> 00:14:13,269 ISIS 378 00:14:13,970 --> 00:14:16,850 fought to capture the Yarmouk refugee camp in 379 00:14:16,850 --> 00:14:19,929 Syria. And so Hamas, which had sided with 380 00:14:19,929 --> 00:14:22,610 the Syrian opposition, by the way, fought against 381 00:14:22,610 --> 00:14:23,110 ISIS. 382 00:14:24,284 --> 00:14:26,524 And one of their top commanders was captured 383 00:14:26,524 --> 00:14:28,865 by ISIS. Hamas and the other opposition 384 00:14:29,245 --> 00:14:29,745 groups 385 00:14:30,365 --> 00:14:31,105 were defeated 386 00:14:31,565 --> 00:14:33,264 by ISIS in in this battle, 387 00:14:33,804 --> 00:14:36,625 and Hamas commander was beheaded by ISIS. 388 00:14:37,379 --> 00:14:39,220 That was the same year that ISIS then 389 00:14:39,220 --> 00:14:41,480 coincidentally just popped up in Gaza. 390 00:14:42,259 --> 00:14:44,120 Now that they've had this battle with, 391 00:14:44,660 --> 00:14:47,620 Hamas, Hamas obviously cracked down on them, but 392 00:14:47,620 --> 00:14:50,340 we've seen that these Salafist elements and these 393 00:14:50,340 --> 00:14:51,720 Al Qaeda linked elements, 394 00:14:52,514 --> 00:14:55,414 were active in Gaza, were committing suicide bombings, 395 00:14:55,634 --> 00:14:56,134 kidnappings 396 00:14:56,514 --> 00:14:57,254 of journalists, 397 00:14:58,434 --> 00:15:01,095 and activists as well, the murder of activists, 398 00:15:01,714 --> 00:15:02,855 in the Gaza Strip. 399 00:15:03,714 --> 00:15:05,954 For a very long time, there were massive 400 00:15:05,954 --> 00:15:06,454 clashes 401 00:15:06,834 --> 00:15:07,815 between Hamas, 402 00:15:08,490 --> 00:15:09,710 their security forces, 403 00:15:10,169 --> 00:15:10,649 and, 404 00:15:11,210 --> 00:15:12,509 Al Qaeda cells. 405 00:15:13,769 --> 00:15:15,929 Throughout the history of the Hamas rule of 406 00:15:15,929 --> 00:15:18,090 the Gaza Strip, they constantly had to crack 407 00:15:18,090 --> 00:15:20,029 down on them. They had to arrest, 408 00:15:20,490 --> 00:15:22,110 the ringleaders in these, 409 00:15:22,745 --> 00:15:23,804 terrorist cells, 410 00:15:24,904 --> 00:15:25,384 and, 411 00:15:25,945 --> 00:15:27,865 they fought, you know, gun battles in the 412 00:15:27,865 --> 00:15:29,644 streets with, these militants. 413 00:15:30,345 --> 00:15:32,424 So, you know, there's a long history of 414 00:15:32,424 --> 00:15:34,264 that in the Gaza Strip. Not only that, 415 00:15:34,264 --> 00:15:36,524 but another thing which is, I suppose, 416 00:15:36,904 --> 00:15:39,519 anecdote on the side, which supports the notion 417 00:15:39,519 --> 00:15:42,559 of Israeli involvement with these groups, is that 418 00:15:42,559 --> 00:15:45,059 there were many times where Hamas arrested, 419 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,059 members of these Salafist groups for firing rockets 420 00:15:51,664 --> 00:15:54,384 at Israel, these sort of bottle rockets that 421 00:15:54,384 --> 00:15:56,625 they'd fire over, which would then invite an 422 00:15:56,625 --> 00:15:59,584 Israeli response. Right. So there were these times 423 00:15:59,584 --> 00:16:00,884 where randomly 424 00:16:01,424 --> 00:16:03,524 and when nothing was happening seemingly, 425 00:16:04,169 --> 00:16:06,169 there would be one or two rockets fired 426 00:16:06,169 --> 00:16:07,850 over, and they would just land in open 427 00:16:07,850 --> 00:16:09,769 areas, and they wouldn't pose a threat to 428 00:16:09,769 --> 00:16:12,350 anyone. And then suddenly, that invited an Israeli 429 00:16:12,970 --> 00:16:15,049 attack on the Gaza Strip, and and these 430 00:16:15,049 --> 00:16:16,125 groups did that. 431 00:16:16,845 --> 00:16:18,764 These are the groups that participated in that 432 00:16:18,764 --> 00:16:19,745 and and Hamas, 433 00:16:20,125 --> 00:16:23,085 their policemen arrested these people for it. The 434 00:16:23,085 --> 00:16:25,404 implication clearly being at least not saying proof, 435 00:16:25,404 --> 00:16:27,105 but the implication being that possibly 436 00:16:27,404 --> 00:16:29,085 if they're working on behalf of this element, 437 00:16:29,085 --> 00:16:30,950 which there's ties you can prove that that 438 00:16:30,950 --> 00:16:33,029 was done for the interest of the desire 439 00:16:33,029 --> 00:16:34,789 to launch that attack for whatever reason. As 440 00:16:34,789 --> 00:16:36,789 we were very clearly seeing today as it's 441 00:16:36,789 --> 00:16:38,789 coming out for what, the the fifteenth time 442 00:16:38,789 --> 00:16:41,029 over the years where Israeli media and Israeli 443 00:16:41,029 --> 00:16:43,795 people are highlighting that Netanyahu's once again can, 444 00:16:43,795 --> 00:16:45,475 you know, conducting war to keep himself out 445 00:16:45,475 --> 00:16:47,075 of jail. You know? And so that's one 446 00:16:47,075 --> 00:16:49,554 very easily proven and obvious potential point there, 447 00:16:49,554 --> 00:16:51,394 but that's just fascinating to see how many 448 00:16:51,394 --> 00:16:53,394 different ways this interconnects and how long this 449 00:16:53,394 --> 00:16:54,375 has been going on. 450 00:16:54,675 --> 00:16:56,595 Do do so in regard to the ISIS 451 00:16:56,595 --> 00:16:57,815 links and the GHF 452 00:16:58,329 --> 00:17:00,250 connected back to Israel and United States as 453 00:17:00,250 --> 00:17:02,089 well, for oh, first, the ISIS links in 454 00:17:02,089 --> 00:17:04,089 general. So that's important. So regardless of being 455 00:17:04,089 --> 00:17:04,910 ISIS connected, 456 00:17:05,450 --> 00:17:07,529 these groups are what we just described. Right? 457 00:17:07,529 --> 00:17:09,529 It's interesting. But then being what makes it 458 00:17:09,529 --> 00:17:11,474 all the more insulting is to prove that, 459 00:17:11,554 --> 00:17:12,914 you know, the very group they're always trying 460 00:17:12,914 --> 00:17:14,355 to highlight is what they're fighting around the 461 00:17:14,355 --> 00:17:16,355 world is, in fact, doing their dirty work 462 00:17:16,355 --> 00:17:17,794 right on the ground, which is not new. 463 00:17:17,794 --> 00:17:19,154 So go into what that is and if 464 00:17:19,154 --> 00:17:20,515 you have any other examples of why it's 465 00:17:20,515 --> 00:17:22,054 not new, I'd love to hear that too. 466 00:17:22,275 --> 00:17:24,134 No. It's definitely not new. Like, 467 00:17:24,914 --> 00:17:27,230 evidently, we know in the case of Syria, 468 00:17:27,369 --> 00:17:29,150 the Israelis were backing 469 00:17:29,609 --> 00:17:32,890 at least a dozen Syrian opposition groups since 470 00:17:32,890 --> 00:17:34,029 02/2013. 471 00:17:34,089 --> 00:17:35,150 One of them being, 472 00:17:35,529 --> 00:17:37,390 Nusra Front, which was, 473 00:17:37,849 --> 00:17:38,349 commanded 474 00:17:38,804 --> 00:17:39,304 by, 475 00:17:40,004 --> 00:17:42,404 Abu Mohammed al Shulani, who's now known as 476 00:17:42,404 --> 00:17:45,224 Ahmed al Sharra. He's the Syrian president now, 477 00:17:46,085 --> 00:17:48,644 who turned his organization. He changed the name 478 00:17:48,644 --> 00:17:49,384 from Nusra 479 00:17:49,924 --> 00:17:50,424 to, 480 00:17:51,044 --> 00:17:52,585 Hayat Tahri e Sham, 481 00:17:53,799 --> 00:17:55,980 which now runs Syria today. 482 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:59,240 But it's interesting because at the same time 483 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:00,840 in 2013 484 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,480 when these groups started getting funded, many of 485 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,375 them were collaborating, including Nosfera, by the way. 486 00:18:06,375 --> 00:18:08,714 At the same time that Nusra was collaborating 487 00:18:09,575 --> 00:18:12,474 and working together with ISIS in Syria, 488 00:18:12,855 --> 00:18:14,394 the Israelis were simultaneously 489 00:18:14,775 --> 00:18:16,634 providing funding and weapons 490 00:18:17,015 --> 00:18:19,255 over to the group. So and and that's 491 00:18:19,255 --> 00:18:21,869 now the guy who is running Syria, who 492 00:18:21,869 --> 00:18:24,289 headed that organization, and it's no surprise, 493 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:28,029 to anyone that he's now moving towards a 494 00:18:28,029 --> 00:18:29,329 normalization agreement, 495 00:18:29,869 --> 00:18:31,490 with, the Israelis. 496 00:18:32,109 --> 00:18:33,569 But, you know, the Syria element 497 00:18:33,869 --> 00:18:34,750 to this obviously, 498 00:18:35,765 --> 00:18:38,265 proves the point. It's the the strongest, 499 00:18:38,884 --> 00:18:39,625 you know, 500 00:18:40,005 --> 00:18:40,825 proof here. 501 00:18:41,205 --> 00:18:41,865 But also 502 00:18:42,245 --> 00:18:44,805 in the Gaza Strip now, these people, many 503 00:18:44,805 --> 00:18:46,745 of these militants who are, you know, 504 00:18:47,365 --> 00:18:47,865 hardened 505 00:18:48,245 --> 00:18:48,745 salafists, 506 00:18:49,789 --> 00:18:50,929 who were either, 507 00:18:51,470 --> 00:18:51,970 loyal 508 00:18:52,429 --> 00:18:54,990 to, ISIS or Al Qaeda movements in the 509 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:57,970 past are now openly collaborating with the Israelis 510 00:18:58,109 --> 00:18:59,329 to overthrow Hamas. 511 00:18:59,869 --> 00:19:02,450 And then, of course, they it's funny because, 512 00:19:02,829 --> 00:19:05,154 Yasser Abu Shabab, the sort of ringleader, 513 00:19:05,535 --> 00:19:07,855 he was interviewed on no other than the 514 00:19:07,855 --> 00:19:09,315 Israeli army radio 515 00:19:10,734 --> 00:19:13,054 to which he told the army radio that 516 00:19:13,054 --> 00:19:15,554 all the claims that we're collaborating with Israel 517 00:19:16,309 --> 00:19:17,690 is just propaganda, 518 00:19:18,230 --> 00:19:19,130 Hamas propaganda, 519 00:19:19,509 --> 00:19:21,210 while he's speaking to Israeli 520 00:19:21,589 --> 00:19:22,490 army radio 521 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:23,609 from a territory 522 00:19:24,150 --> 00:19:25,609 controlled by the Israelis 523 00:19:25,990 --> 00:19:27,929 where they provide him with air support. 524 00:19:28,710 --> 00:19:30,490 So, I mean, at this point, 525 00:19:31,275 --> 00:19:32,975 those links are crystal clear. 526 00:19:33,674 --> 00:19:36,235 We have lots of historical examples of Hamas 527 00:19:36,235 --> 00:19:38,875 fighting against some Qaeda and against ISIS, of 528 00:19:38,875 --> 00:19:39,375 course. 529 00:19:39,914 --> 00:19:42,555 But now they're the Israelis, you know, they 530 00:19:42,555 --> 00:19:44,130 let the cat out of the bag. And 531 00:19:44,130 --> 00:19:44,630 even 532 00:19:45,089 --> 00:19:46,710 Netanyahu, he was forced to admit, 533 00:19:47,009 --> 00:19:48,930 because of Victor Lieberman and others in the 534 00:19:48,930 --> 00:19:50,849 Knesset brought up the fact that why are 535 00:19:50,849 --> 00:19:52,769 we funding ISIS? Maybe this could have blowback. 536 00:19:52,769 --> 00:19:54,769 That was their point of view. Like, this 537 00:19:54,769 --> 00:19:57,474 could, at some point, backfire on us. And, 538 00:19:57,714 --> 00:19:59,634 so he admitted, no. No. There's nothing wrong 539 00:19:59,634 --> 00:20:01,654 with funding these people. Like 540 00:20:01,954 --> 00:20:04,454 like, this is a strategy against Hamas. 541 00:20:05,154 --> 00:20:07,714 So they've openly admitted it at this point. 542 00:20:07,714 --> 00:20:09,954 So it's it's not even something that we 543 00:20:09,954 --> 00:20:12,299 have to debate right now whether it's happening. 544 00:20:12,299 --> 00:20:14,700 We can talk about past examples. You know, 545 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:15,920 in 02/2015, 546 00:20:16,860 --> 00:20:19,900 was the rise of ISIS in Gaza financed 547 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:21,340 by the Israelis or something like that, which 548 00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:23,180 we don't have proof for. We can just 549 00:20:23,180 --> 00:20:23,680 speculate. 550 00:20:24,059 --> 00:20:25,900 But now it's it's out in the open. 551 00:20:25,900 --> 00:20:28,815 These are hardened militant, some of them, and 552 00:20:28,815 --> 00:20:29,315 criminals, 553 00:20:29,775 --> 00:20:31,634 and that's really what they are. They're collaborators 554 00:20:31,775 --> 00:20:34,414 and criminals more than they are ideologically committed 555 00:20:34,414 --> 00:20:36,815 to anything. But, of course, if you allow 556 00:20:36,815 --> 00:20:38,654 these people to take over, which they're not 557 00:20:38,654 --> 00:20:41,039 powerful enough to do. But if you were 558 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:43,059 allowed to allow these people to take over, 559 00:20:44,079 --> 00:20:46,559 they would rain terror on the people of 560 00:20:46,559 --> 00:20:47,700 the Gaza Strip, 561 00:20:48,159 --> 00:20:50,399 and the Israelis are completely fine with that. 562 00:20:50,399 --> 00:20:52,159 And they're already doing that as you've recovered 563 00:20:52,159 --> 00:20:53,859 many times. Right? Ethnic cleansing, 564 00:20:54,184 --> 00:20:55,704 the I mean, all the white massacres. I 565 00:20:55,704 --> 00:20:57,144 mean, it's it's been going on since the 566 00:20:57,144 --> 00:20:58,744 beginning. And that's the most cartoonish part of 567 00:20:58,744 --> 00:21:00,664 all this is that, like you described, Jelani 568 00:21:00,664 --> 00:21:02,025 or whatever, you know, what is he calling 569 00:21:02,025 --> 00:21:03,304 himself now? Or that is that his new 570 00:21:03,304 --> 00:21:06,204 name? Yeah. Yeah. But the so, basically, now 571 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,039 it's the the group that was moments ago, 572 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,720 you know, we had a $10,000,000 bounty on 573 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:11,079 his head. The group they claim they're fighting, 574 00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:12,759 you know, and just on a dime becomes 575 00:21:12,759 --> 00:21:13,799 the man in the suit, and Trump's there 576 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:15,000 making a picture next to him. You know, 577 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,839 it's just so silly. And and and the 578 00:21:16,839 --> 00:21:19,480 ongoing claims and, you know, the Israel sweeps 579 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,825 in and starts building bases and has names 580 00:21:21,825 --> 00:21:23,664 for settlements. You know, it's just it's it's 581 00:21:23,664 --> 00:21:25,684 it's insulting to our intelligence to not be 582 00:21:25,904 --> 00:21:27,744 obvious about what that is. You know? But 583 00:21:27,744 --> 00:21:29,825 but what's interesting is it it's not even 584 00:21:30,384 --> 00:21:32,065 as you said, there are precedents around them 585 00:21:32,065 --> 00:21:33,984 doing that in general or rather specifically with 586 00:21:33,984 --> 00:21:35,809 these groups. But it's also in general, you 587 00:21:35,809 --> 00:21:37,090 can see that they've done this before as 588 00:21:37,090 --> 00:21:39,650 we've discussed many times. The you know? And, 589 00:21:39,650 --> 00:21:41,809 again, to be fair, very nuanced situation. It's 590 00:21:41,809 --> 00:21:43,090 not as simple as to say they just 591 00:21:43,090 --> 00:21:45,170 control them, but Israel has been shown to 592 00:21:45,170 --> 00:21:46,710 get money in the hands of Hamas 593 00:21:47,065 --> 00:21:48,744 many times in order to to keep them 594 00:21:48,744 --> 00:21:50,664 divided and keep the or rather keep the 595 00:21:50,664 --> 00:21:53,065 Palestinian people divided. So even in that context, 596 00:21:53,065 --> 00:21:54,265 you can see me. I think the point 597 00:21:54,265 --> 00:21:56,505 is they'll throw money at whoever for whatever 598 00:21:56,505 --> 00:21:58,105 reason as long as it suits their interest. 599 00:21:58,105 --> 00:22:00,285 And that's there's nobody that is, you know, 600 00:22:00,569 --> 00:22:02,009 unsavory enough for them is the kind of 601 00:22:02,009 --> 00:22:03,289 point, and they'll put money in the hands 602 00:22:03,289 --> 00:22:05,210 of anybody to achieve the ends. And it 603 00:22:05,210 --> 00:22:06,649 it turns around and then point those very 604 00:22:06,649 --> 00:22:08,169 people as the boogeyman they need to save 605 00:22:08,169 --> 00:22:09,529 you from. You know, this is I mean, 606 00:22:09,529 --> 00:22:12,345 it that's that's textbook US policy as well 607 00:22:12,825 --> 00:22:14,904 right in front of us. Yeah. We we've 608 00:22:14,904 --> 00:22:16,184 discussed the the Hamas, 609 00:22:16,585 --> 00:22:18,585 situation, which I think is rather different to 610 00:22:18,585 --> 00:22:19,724 this because Hamas, 611 00:22:20,184 --> 00:22:21,865 when we're talking about the money going to 612 00:22:21,865 --> 00:22:24,424 Hamas, we're talking about Qatari money, which was 613 00:22:24,424 --> 00:22:26,549 before going to Hamas, but they just changed 614 00:22:26,549 --> 00:22:28,309 the method of it and, obviously, it came 615 00:22:28,309 --> 00:22:28,970 in suitcases, 616 00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:32,390 for a period of time. And, this happened 617 00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:34,789 not just with Netanyahu, but with Yair Lapid 618 00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:36,890 and, Naftali Bennett as well. 619 00:22:37,269 --> 00:22:38,569 Those funds came through. 620 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:39,884 But, 621 00:22:40,845 --> 00:22:43,244 they obviously, in that situation, they didn't have 622 00:22:43,244 --> 00:22:45,325 a a solution for Gaza. This is something 623 00:22:45,325 --> 00:22:47,404 that I think everyone can agree upon. They 624 00:22:47,404 --> 00:22:50,204 didn't have a solution for Gaza. So they 625 00:22:50,204 --> 00:22:51,345 understood that 626 00:22:51,805 --> 00:22:55,240 if they just let the situation deteriorate to 627 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,919 a point of collapse in the Gaza Strip 628 00:22:56,919 --> 00:22:57,419 before, 629 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:00,539 and block all money coming in, 630 00:23:00,919 --> 00:23:03,000 and no salaries could be paid in the 631 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,159 Gaza Strip, then it would disintegrate into a 632 00:23:05,159 --> 00:23:07,419 situation of chaos, and it would, 633 00:23:08,134 --> 00:23:11,014 beget war, and it would cause a problem 634 00:23:11,014 --> 00:23:13,414 and a nuisance for the Israelis. The Israelis 635 00:23:13,414 --> 00:23:16,134 wanted to sideline the Gaza issue, and so 636 00:23:16,134 --> 00:23:17,974 they allowed this money to come in to 637 00:23:17,974 --> 00:23:20,375 allow salaries to be paid, and the likes. 638 00:23:20,375 --> 00:23:22,075 And and that's why the the funds, 639 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:24,779 had come in. And another element of it, 640 00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:26,559 of course, is definitely keeping, 641 00:23:26,940 --> 00:23:29,900 the Palestinian people divided, but that is more 642 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:32,059 like, more so what they did on the 643 00:23:32,059 --> 00:23:35,839 Palestinian authority side. The Palestinian authority are essentially 644 00:23:36,059 --> 00:23:37,200 a a full collaborator 645 00:23:37,579 --> 00:23:38,079 force, 646 00:23:38,825 --> 00:23:39,884 with the Israelis. 647 00:23:40,505 --> 00:23:42,924 They do their bidding at every single turn, 648 00:23:43,545 --> 00:23:44,025 and, 649 00:23:44,505 --> 00:23:47,384 they crack down on grassroots resistance in the 650 00:23:47,384 --> 00:23:50,424 West Bank. And even when Hamas in 2017 651 00:23:50,424 --> 00:23:52,279 tried to sign an agreement to bring the 652 00:23:52,279 --> 00:23:54,619 Palestinian authorities by all of their flaws 653 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:55,740 into, 654 00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:58,599 control of the Gaza Strip. They wanted them 655 00:23:58,599 --> 00:24:00,140 to take over the civil administration. 656 00:24:00,759 --> 00:24:03,160 Israel and The United States collapsed it. So 657 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,220 they could have actually, 658 00:24:05,799 --> 00:24:06,299 achieved 659 00:24:06,944 --> 00:24:09,345 this so called old taking Hamas out of 660 00:24:09,345 --> 00:24:12,325 power. That could have been achieved in 02/2017, 661 00:24:12,464 --> 00:24:14,644 but they refused to do so. So, 662 00:24:15,345 --> 00:24:18,224 it's another point against them. But you're correct 663 00:24:18,224 --> 00:24:20,565 that they'll throw money at anything and anyone, 664 00:24:21,470 --> 00:24:24,289 in order to try and serve, their aims 665 00:24:24,430 --> 00:24:26,190 in the short term, and then they turn 666 00:24:26,190 --> 00:24:28,609 around and and and cry victim 667 00:24:29,150 --> 00:24:31,630 when suddenly things don't go their way. And 668 00:24:31,630 --> 00:24:33,470 even the this could be the case in 669 00:24:33,470 --> 00:24:35,954 Syria. Many of those groups that received funding 670 00:24:35,954 --> 00:24:37,494 and were operating in Idlib, 671 00:24:38,194 --> 00:24:40,434 you know, tomorrow, there could be a revolution 672 00:24:40,434 --> 00:24:42,355 in Syria, and some of those groups could 673 00:24:42,355 --> 00:24:44,914 take over. If that happens, now you might 674 00:24:44,914 --> 00:24:46,294 have a government in Damascus, 675 00:24:46,674 --> 00:24:47,085 which is, 676 00:24:48,599 --> 00:24:50,920 adversarial to the Israelis. I'm not saying that's 677 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:51,740 going to happen, 678 00:24:52,039 --> 00:24:54,039 but there are certainly lots of groups there 679 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:55,339 that are still adversarial, 680 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:57,819 to Israel. 681 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:58,619 So, 682 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:00,599 you know, and then they'll cry victim, but 683 00:25:00,599 --> 00:25:03,434 it's like, well, you endorsed this. You endorsed 684 00:25:03,434 --> 00:25:05,434 this whole experiment, and then you were trying 685 00:25:05,434 --> 00:25:06,095 to normalize 686 00:25:06,634 --> 00:25:07,775 with one of your 687 00:25:08,235 --> 00:25:08,735 allies, 688 00:25:09,355 --> 00:25:12,894 Ahmed al Sharra, who you funded since 2013 689 00:25:13,115 --> 00:25:15,434 despite knowing that he was a commander of 690 00:25:15,434 --> 00:25:17,679 ISIS and the the group he was commanding 691 00:25:17,679 --> 00:25:20,159 was Al Qaeda in Syria, and it still 692 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,799 is Al Qaeda in Syria. The only difference 693 00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:25,700 is the leadership of this Al Qaeda group 694 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,819 is controlled by foreign intelligence agencies. 695 00:25:29,679 --> 00:25:31,619 Ahmed al Sharra or Jholani 696 00:25:32,295 --> 00:25:34,375 has always been an asset of the MI 697 00:25:34,375 --> 00:25:34,875 six. 698 00:25:35,575 --> 00:25:38,134 And the others are different assets for other 699 00:25:38,134 --> 00:25:38,634 intelligence 700 00:25:39,335 --> 00:25:39,835 agencies. 701 00:25:40,855 --> 00:25:43,674 But underneath that, the militants that are parts 702 00:25:43,735 --> 00:25:44,715 of these groups 703 00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:47,500 actually do adhere to the Al Qaeda 704 00:25:47,980 --> 00:25:48,720 Right. Salafist, 705 00:25:49,580 --> 00:25:50,080 mentality, 706 00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:51,920 and 707 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:53,680 they do hate Israel. 708 00:25:54,059 --> 00:25:56,940 So at any moment, that project could collapse, 709 00:25:56,940 --> 00:25:58,779 and then suddenly you've got all these people 710 00:25:58,779 --> 00:26:00,714 who want to attack you. And then they'll 711 00:26:00,714 --> 00:26:02,875 cry victim. Which they could still use, though. 712 00:26:02,875 --> 00:26:04,234 I think that's the mindset is that even 713 00:26:04,234 --> 00:26:05,914 if it spins out of control, it kind 714 00:26:05,914 --> 00:26:07,835 of makes their point real. You know what 715 00:26:07,835 --> 00:26:09,674 I mean? Like, it's self fulfilling prophecy. You 716 00:26:09,674 --> 00:26:11,274 know, it's so fast in the picture you 717 00:26:11,274 --> 00:26:12,875 paint there is I mean, you have to 718 00:26:12,875 --> 00:26:14,794 realize what you can prove these at these 719 00:26:14,794 --> 00:26:16,529 assets at the top, which is what they 720 00:26:16,529 --> 00:26:18,369 are. You know? It they and I think 721 00:26:18,369 --> 00:26:20,930 even was it Mohammed bin Salman that essentially 722 00:26:20,930 --> 00:26:22,369 admitted that at one point where he said 723 00:26:22,369 --> 00:26:24,289 that you know, pointing out that, yes, they 724 00:26:24,289 --> 00:26:24,789 essentially 725 00:26:25,090 --> 00:26:26,690 are behind a lot of these groups, but 726 00:26:26,690 --> 00:26:28,529 some of the people like, two things that 727 00:26:28,529 --> 00:26:30,930 the leadership don't necessarily believe, like you just 728 00:26:30,930 --> 00:26:33,045 said, in the ideology. It's more of a 729 00:26:33,045 --> 00:26:35,204 tool of manipulation, but it also it kind 730 00:26:35,204 --> 00:26:36,484 of said in so many words that they've 731 00:26:36,484 --> 00:26:38,325 lost control of some of these groups. Like, 732 00:26:38,325 --> 00:26:39,684 it just I forget what year that was, 733 00:26:39,684 --> 00:26:40,964 but I remember them he was there was 734 00:26:40,964 --> 00:26:42,404 a time where he was really speaking out 735 00:26:42,404 --> 00:26:44,005 a lot, like, I think it was around 736 00:26:44,005 --> 00:26:45,285 the Yemen point or it does not to 737 00:26:45,285 --> 00:26:47,339 get into I'm forgetting exact mindset, but the 738 00:26:47,339 --> 00:26:49,420 point that he said that publicly shows you 739 00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:50,480 that, you know, 740 00:26:50,779 --> 00:26:52,779 maybe that he's distancing himself from the loss 741 00:26:52,779 --> 00:26:54,700 of that control. But, really, the idea that 742 00:26:54,700 --> 00:26:57,339 ultimately they are out there trying just throwing 743 00:26:57,339 --> 00:26:59,695 things into the situation, not caring that what 744 00:26:59,695 --> 00:27:01,134 they're doing, like you said, could spin out 745 00:27:01,134 --> 00:27:02,575 and hurt the very people on the ground 746 00:27:02,575 --> 00:27:04,654 that they always profess to care about. You 747 00:27:04,654 --> 00:27:06,494 know? But that that picture is so clear. 748 00:27:06,494 --> 00:27:08,914 We're talking about leaders, you know, CIA, Mossad, 749 00:27:08,975 --> 00:27:11,455 MI six, like, leadership moments that are guiding 750 00:27:11,455 --> 00:27:13,349 all this chaos. How can we ever stand 751 00:27:13,349 --> 00:27:14,789 back and pretend like those are the people 752 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:16,950 trying to give us liberty and freedom and 753 00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:18,549 democracy? You know, it's it's so insulting to 754 00:27:18,549 --> 00:27:20,230 our intelligence, but it's a good picture you 755 00:27:20,230 --> 00:27:22,470 painted there. But let let go ahead. Go 756 00:27:22,470 --> 00:27:24,390 ahead. No. No. I I I I just 757 00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:26,710 said, like, this is the the the issue 758 00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:29,154 here is that every single time they pull 759 00:27:29,154 --> 00:27:30,134 off all these operations 760 00:27:30,674 --> 00:27:32,755 or they might assassinate leaders in a certain 761 00:27:32,755 --> 00:27:35,634 group or commit terrorist attacks somewhere using the 762 00:27:35,634 --> 00:27:36,134 Mossad 763 00:27:37,075 --> 00:27:39,875 or, you know, overthrow our government, and then 764 00:27:39,875 --> 00:27:40,375 suddenly 765 00:27:40,755 --> 00:27:42,455 after that government is overthrown 766 00:27:42,914 --> 00:27:43,414 or 767 00:27:43,730 --> 00:27:45,430 they assassinated a leader 768 00:27:45,890 --> 00:27:48,369 and suddenly a group or a country has 769 00:27:48,369 --> 00:27:52,070 become more hostile towards them or resistance forms, 770 00:27:52,690 --> 00:27:55,089 suddenly then they're crying victim. And and just 771 00:27:55,089 --> 00:27:55,990 as a small, 772 00:27:57,089 --> 00:27:57,589 point, 773 00:27:58,565 --> 00:28:00,964 to to take note of everybody, you know, 774 00:28:00,964 --> 00:28:03,545 talking about Hezbollah terrorist, Hezbollah, Hezbollah. 775 00:28:04,404 --> 00:28:06,164 And a lot of people don't know this, 776 00:28:06,164 --> 00:28:07,224 but when the Israelis 777 00:28:07,525 --> 00:28:10,085 entered into South Lebanon in 1982, 778 00:28:10,085 --> 00:28:12,565 the Shia pro population, which is what brought 779 00:28:12,565 --> 00:28:13,305 us Hezbollah, 780 00:28:13,730 --> 00:28:15,970 That's where the Lebanese resistance comes from is 781 00:28:15,970 --> 00:28:16,789 from the Shia. 782 00:28:17,809 --> 00:28:18,549 At that time, 783 00:28:19,009 --> 00:28:21,170 there were and then there is video footage 784 00:28:21,170 --> 00:28:22,930 of this. They were throwing rice at the 785 00:28:22,930 --> 00:28:24,690 feet of the Israeli soldiers. Many of them 786 00:28:24,690 --> 00:28:26,849 actually supported, not all of them, of course, 787 00:28:26,849 --> 00:28:29,505 but many Shia in the South actually supported 788 00:28:29,505 --> 00:28:31,825 the Israelis coming in. You know why? Because 789 00:28:31,825 --> 00:28:33,664 they, at that time, as, you know, they 790 00:28:33,664 --> 00:28:36,305 weren't, politicized in the way that they are, 791 00:28:36,705 --> 00:28:38,244 today. They believed 792 00:28:38,865 --> 00:28:41,184 that the PLO had a state within a 793 00:28:41,184 --> 00:28:43,190 state in their country, and they saw some 794 00:28:43,190 --> 00:28:44,730 of the activities of the PLO. 795 00:28:45,269 --> 00:28:47,109 And, you know, that was not to their 796 00:28:47,109 --> 00:28:48,650 benefit. You know, they were actually, 797 00:28:49,349 --> 00:28:51,349 being undermined because of the PLO in some 798 00:28:51,349 --> 00:28:54,070 ways. And so that created this anger, and 799 00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:55,750 a lot of the propaganda got through to 800 00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:57,805 these people, and they actually celebrated. But what 801 00:28:57,805 --> 00:28:59,965 happened when the Israelis actually came into South 802 00:28:59,965 --> 00:29:03,325 Lebanon? Well, they bombed civilian areas. They committed 803 00:29:03,325 --> 00:29:06,445 massacres against, civilians on the ground. And then 804 00:29:06,445 --> 00:29:07,565 after 1982, 805 00:29:07,565 --> 00:29:10,769 when the Palestinian resistance left to North Africa, 806 00:29:10,769 --> 00:29:11,430 to Tunisia, 807 00:29:12,130 --> 00:29:15,029 the Israelis used their Falange militia, the Lebanese, 808 00:29:15,570 --> 00:29:16,630 Christian militia 809 00:29:17,009 --> 00:29:19,269 to commit the Sabahran Shatila massacre 810 00:29:19,970 --> 00:29:23,570 and, then commit, subsequent massacres against Palestinian refugees, 811 00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:26,884 but also against Lebanese Shia as well. Right. 812 00:29:27,345 --> 00:29:29,745 And they occupied the South Of Lebanon, and 813 00:29:29,745 --> 00:29:32,245 that is what birthed in 1985 814 00:29:32,465 --> 00:29:32,965 Hezbollah 815 00:29:33,585 --> 00:29:34,404 from a population 816 00:29:34,945 --> 00:29:37,365 that prior to that was not actually 817 00:29:37,904 --> 00:29:38,404 active, 818 00:29:39,470 --> 00:29:41,309 in in the struggle. There was the ML 819 00:29:41,309 --> 00:29:43,890 movement, but the ML movement was not as, 820 00:29:44,590 --> 00:29:46,509 hard line at that point. It actually had 821 00:29:46,509 --> 00:29:48,750 a lot of problems with, the PLO. It 822 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:50,269 it will it would take a bit of 823 00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:50,990 time to get into that, 824 00:29:52,304 --> 00:29:54,884 that equation there. But, you know, in general, 825 00:29:55,024 --> 00:29:57,105 they did not have a population in South 826 00:29:57,105 --> 00:29:59,924 Lebanon like it is today. Mhmm. They created 827 00:29:59,984 --> 00:30:01,605 that by killing them, 828 00:30:01,984 --> 00:30:05,049 by subjugating them, by occupying them. And then 829 00:30:05,049 --> 00:30:07,210 they turn around and they go, why do 830 00:30:07,210 --> 00:30:08,490 these people hate us, and why are they 831 00:30:08,490 --> 00:30:10,809 firing ballistic missiles at us? But it's like, 832 00:30:10,809 --> 00:30:13,529 well, because you committed massacres against them. And 833 00:30:13,529 --> 00:30:15,930 even today, they say, well, the pager attack 834 00:30:15,930 --> 00:30:16,990 was so specific. 835 00:30:17,345 --> 00:30:18,865 The majority of the people injured in the 836 00:30:18,865 --> 00:30:21,825 pager attack were not Hezbollah militants. Right. The 837 00:30:21,825 --> 00:30:24,325 majority of people entered in the pager attacks, 838 00:30:24,464 --> 00:30:27,184 even if they were, family members or or 839 00:30:27,184 --> 00:30:29,664 part of the party, were civilians in a 840 00:30:29,664 --> 00:30:30,724 civilian capacity 841 00:30:31,220 --> 00:30:33,619 in civilian areas. Women and children were killed 842 00:30:33,619 --> 00:30:36,019 in the attacks, but they praise how wonderful 843 00:30:36,019 --> 00:30:38,500 this pager attack is. No. When you do 844 00:30:38,500 --> 00:30:39,559 something like that, 845 00:30:40,259 --> 00:30:42,900 you turn an entire population against you. You 846 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:44,980 make you radicalize them against you, and you 847 00:30:44,980 --> 00:30:47,345 make them want to resist. So they praise 848 00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:50,005 it in the so called objective western media. 849 00:30:50,225 --> 00:30:53,025 They praise terrorist attacks like this, and then 850 00:30:53,025 --> 00:30:54,404 they turn around and cry victim. 851 00:30:54,865 --> 00:30:56,384 Right. Well, I mean, it's this is this 852 00:30:56,384 --> 00:30:58,545 is textbook terrorism. I mean, we've and anybody 853 00:30:58,545 --> 00:31:00,625 honest can see that. It wasn't over 70% 854 00:31:00,625 --> 00:31:02,069 of them were men and children. I mean, 855 00:31:02,069 --> 00:31:03,509 have you seen some of these lineups of 856 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:04,890 of just, you know, the 857 00:31:05,509 --> 00:31:07,509 most gruesome examples of them? Like, I saw 858 00:31:07,509 --> 00:31:08,710 a picture. I think it was, like, seven 859 00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:10,549 or eight children and women and KL standing 860 00:31:10,549 --> 00:31:12,390 there with, like, missing eyes, an arm missing, 861 00:31:12,390 --> 00:31:13,909 you know, like, horrible things. You know? And 862 00:31:13,909 --> 00:31:15,349 and that they claim that they let it 863 00:31:15,349 --> 00:31:16,924 sit there for ten years. I think the 864 00:31:16,924 --> 00:31:18,924 evidence shows it was about five, but just 865 00:31:18,924 --> 00:31:20,924 floated around the community. I mean, the side 866 00:31:20,924 --> 00:31:23,105 point is obviously the concern of the infiltration 867 00:31:23,244 --> 00:31:24,605 of that kind of field in The US 868 00:31:24,605 --> 00:31:26,605 or anywhere else and whether that's something that's 869 00:31:26,605 --> 00:31:28,204 going on today. You know, Samson option kind 870 00:31:28,204 --> 00:31:29,805 of stuff. We know where that mindset is. 871 00:31:29,805 --> 00:31:32,200 You know, that's really terrifying. You know? But 872 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,960 the the the overlap to that, the the 873 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,200 ongoing violation of everything they're doing, I mean, 874 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,839 it's just so it's so obvious that what 875 00:31:38,839 --> 00:31:40,140 they're doing is 876 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,240 everything they've always claimed they're fighting and how 877 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:44,759 frustrating it is to see all these corporate 878 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:46,734 media entities like that go after it, praise 879 00:31:46,734 --> 00:31:48,095 it. You know, it just shows you how 880 00:31:48,095 --> 00:31:49,615 compromised all this is. And that's a a 881 00:31:49,654 --> 00:31:50,734 I mean, unless you wanna get into it, 882 00:31:50,734 --> 00:31:52,255 it's a conversation from the day that deserves 883 00:31:52,255 --> 00:31:54,755 its own discussion about the comp the potential 884 00:31:54,894 --> 00:31:57,934 level of infiltration, how compromised governments are. I 885 00:31:57,934 --> 00:31:59,099 mean, I just think that's 886 00:31:59,819 --> 00:32:01,339 one of the conversations of the day. Like, 887 00:32:01,339 --> 00:32:02,960 we really need to start understanding 888 00:32:03,339 --> 00:32:05,339 how much and how obvious it is that 889 00:32:05,339 --> 00:32:07,740 Zionism has infiltrated a lot of these governments 890 00:32:07,740 --> 00:32:08,859 in the world. If you have comments on 891 00:32:08,859 --> 00:32:10,539 that, go ahead, but it's a deep conversation. 892 00:32:10,539 --> 00:32:12,875 You know? It's a deep conversation, but there 893 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:15,535 is absolutely no doubt Yeah. At this point. 894 00:32:15,674 --> 00:32:17,375 I mean, what we're seeing, 895 00:32:17,994 --> 00:32:20,394 from not just in The United States, but 896 00:32:20,394 --> 00:32:22,654 in Germany and in The United Kingdom, 897 00:32:23,595 --> 00:32:24,894 of these regimes 898 00:32:25,669 --> 00:32:27,690 and their stances. I mean, in The UK, 899 00:32:28,150 --> 00:32:28,890 they're designating 900 00:32:29,349 --> 00:32:32,650 Palestine action, which basically goes to weapons factories, 901 00:32:32,789 --> 00:32:33,289 which 902 00:32:33,589 --> 00:32:35,509 provide the weapons to the Israelis to commit 903 00:32:35,509 --> 00:32:37,750 the genocide, and spray them with red paint 904 00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:39,714 or might knock out a few windows and 905 00:32:39,714 --> 00:32:41,394 stop the people from coming to work that 906 00:32:41,394 --> 00:32:44,034 day. They're designating them a terrorist organization in 907 00:32:44,034 --> 00:32:45,394 The UK. There's gonna be a vote, I 908 00:32:45,394 --> 00:32:47,315 believe, on Wednesday about it in the in 909 00:32:47,315 --> 00:32:49,815 the British parliament. And if that goes through, 910 00:32:49,875 --> 00:32:51,254 they're they're designating 911 00:32:52,089 --> 00:32:54,889 antiwar activists, most of whom came from the 912 00:32:54,889 --> 00:32:58,089 climate movement as well. Like, that's these are 913 00:32:58,089 --> 00:33:00,349 the kinds of people that they're calling terrorists 914 00:33:00,730 --> 00:33:03,129 Mhmm. In the West because of the Zionist 915 00:33:03,129 --> 00:33:05,544 lobby. And then there's no way of getting 916 00:33:05,544 --> 00:33:08,984 around it. These governments are completely they completely 917 00:33:08,984 --> 00:33:09,484 capitulate. 918 00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:11,804 And and I'll add percent capitulate 919 00:33:12,184 --> 00:33:14,505 to that pressure, and there's nobody that stands 920 00:33:14,505 --> 00:33:16,664 up. And that's because the political system is 921 00:33:16,664 --> 00:33:17,164 broken 922 00:33:17,599 --> 00:33:20,160 and money for their campaigns and, you know, 923 00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:23,759 getting reelected or gifts or being accepted in 924 00:33:23,759 --> 00:33:26,500 certain circles is more important to these politicians 925 00:33:27,119 --> 00:33:29,519 than their their own constituents. They don't care. 926 00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,440 They don't care if that means killing children 927 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,900 in a foreign country and sending, 928 00:33:33,625 --> 00:33:37,164 weapons components like Britain sends f 35 components, 929 00:33:37,785 --> 00:33:39,464 still in Germany and The US are the 930 00:33:39,464 --> 00:33:41,785 biggest suppliers of arms to the Israelis. It 931 00:33:41,785 --> 00:33:43,944 doesn't matter if if they're committing genocide with 932 00:33:43,944 --> 00:33:45,325 their weapons. They don't care. 933 00:33:46,349 --> 00:33:48,109 Yeah. It it I I do believe, though, 934 00:33:48,109 --> 00:33:49,730 as I as I think we've talked before, 935 00:33:50,190 --> 00:33:52,670 that moment by moment, people are rapidly waking 936 00:33:52,670 --> 00:33:54,269 up to this. And I think that is 937 00:33:54,269 --> 00:33:56,269 a very clear reason why they're becoming more 938 00:33:56,269 --> 00:33:58,029 desperate by the moment. And I think that's 939 00:33:58,029 --> 00:34:00,375 why this seems to escalate even against what 940 00:34:00,375 --> 00:34:02,795 would be classic kind of, you know, justification 941 00:34:02,934 --> 00:34:04,454 for a little bit of restraint for whether 942 00:34:04,454 --> 00:34:05,974 or not they're belligerent. You know? Like, they 943 00:34:05,974 --> 00:34:07,815 recognize that people start to see it. For 944 00:34:07,815 --> 00:34:09,574 whatever reason, they seem to be pushing harder. 945 00:34:09,574 --> 00:34:11,275 You know? I think they sense the 946 00:34:11,574 --> 00:34:13,494 they're on a knife's edge. You know? So 947 00:34:13,494 --> 00:34:15,389 on that very kind of note, what do 948 00:34:15,389 --> 00:34:16,769 you think about the potential 949 00:34:17,469 --> 00:34:19,389 you know? I mean, I it's like I 950 00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:20,510 always feel like I don't even wanna give 951 00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:22,109 it credence the idea of a ceasefire in 952 00:34:22,109 --> 00:34:24,269 Gaza because of how obviously they've continued to 953 00:34:24,269 --> 00:34:26,269 lie about it and how obviously they never 954 00:34:26,269 --> 00:34:27,549 seem to you know? They're lying to us 955 00:34:27,549 --> 00:34:29,454 about what they wanna achieve. But just since 956 00:34:29,454 --> 00:34:31,454 it's it is popping back up on the 957 00:34:31,454 --> 00:34:33,695 point of a potential ceasefire in Gaza and 958 00:34:33,695 --> 00:34:35,454 Trump claiming he wants that again. You know, 959 00:34:35,454 --> 00:34:37,375 what's your what's your sentiment on that, on 960 00:34:37,375 --> 00:34:38,574 where that might go or where it is 961 00:34:38,574 --> 00:34:41,315 right now? Well, I'm always hesitant to, 962 00:34:42,255 --> 00:34:44,570 get excited about anything like this. By the 963 00:34:44,570 --> 00:34:46,809 way, that's wrong wrong, article I had up 964 00:34:46,809 --> 00:34:48,090 on the screen. So go ahead. I'll bring 965 00:34:48,090 --> 00:34:48,969 up the other one in a second. Go 966 00:34:48,969 --> 00:34:50,889 ahead. Well, that links into it because they're 967 00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:52,170 saying that Donald Trump, 968 00:34:52,489 --> 00:34:54,570 he wants to try and push for the 969 00:34:54,570 --> 00:34:57,230 Israelis to drop the corruption trial against Netanyahu 970 00:34:57,369 --> 00:34:58,510 as part and parcel 971 00:34:58,974 --> 00:35:01,875 of achieving achieving a ceasefire and a prisoner 972 00:35:01,934 --> 00:35:04,815 swap Oh, okay. With Gaza. So it is 973 00:35:04,815 --> 00:35:07,394 actually relevant, that article that you pulled up. 974 00:35:08,335 --> 00:35:08,835 Look. 975 00:35:09,614 --> 00:35:11,635 At at this point, you know, we've had 976 00:35:11,859 --> 00:35:14,179 twenty one months of these sorts of claims 977 00:35:14,179 --> 00:35:16,019 coming out about, oh, there'll be a ceasefire 978 00:35:16,019 --> 00:35:17,940 at this time in two weeks and, you 979 00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:18,440 know, 980 00:35:18,739 --> 00:35:21,719 at Christmas, you know, on Easter or whatever, 981 00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:25,239 Ramadan ceasefire or whatever it will be. 982 00:35:25,755 --> 00:35:27,994 We've been experiencing this, and we've gone been 983 00:35:27,994 --> 00:35:29,934 going through this time and time again, 984 00:35:30,474 --> 00:35:31,934 for twenty one months. And 985 00:35:32,315 --> 00:35:33,755 what I would say about it now as 986 00:35:33,755 --> 00:35:35,994 it stands is that the Israeli cabinet had 987 00:35:35,994 --> 00:35:36,494 a, 988 00:35:36,795 --> 00:35:37,934 mini meeting yesterday, 989 00:35:38,714 --> 00:35:41,250 and members of the cabinet were informed that 990 00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:43,349 there had been no progress on the 991 00:35:43,650 --> 00:35:45,969 ceasefire. None. They hadn't made any progress because 992 00:35:45,969 --> 00:35:48,710 the Israelis will not they will not cede 993 00:35:49,010 --> 00:35:52,025 to the key point that Hamas holds, which 994 00:35:52,025 --> 00:35:54,045 is that they want a a full 995 00:35:54,425 --> 00:35:54,925 comprehensive 996 00:35:55,385 --> 00:35:55,885 ceasefire, 997 00:35:56,265 --> 00:35:57,244 which is lasting. 998 00:35:57,864 --> 00:35:59,704 They want a lasting ceasefire. They don't want 999 00:35:59,704 --> 00:36:01,465 a a ceasefire for twenty days or something 1000 00:36:01,465 --> 00:36:03,144 like that. They want the ceasefire to hold. 1001 00:36:03,144 --> 00:36:05,224 And by the way, Hamas have already said, 1002 00:36:05,224 --> 00:36:07,244 we will cede power in Gaza. 1003 00:36:07,889 --> 00:36:10,130 We will cede power. They've said this. This 1004 00:36:10,130 --> 00:36:11,750 has been their position 1005 00:36:12,449 --> 00:36:12,949 for 1006 00:36:13,329 --> 00:36:15,190 the best part of at least, 1007 00:36:15,650 --> 00:36:17,730 six, seven months now that they've been open 1008 00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:18,469 about this, 1009 00:36:19,409 --> 00:36:20,230 perhaps longer. 1010 00:36:20,954 --> 00:36:23,434 They've said, we will hand over the Gaza 1011 00:36:23,434 --> 00:36:25,614 Strip to a interim administrative 1012 00:36:25,914 --> 00:36:29,775 body, which is formed of experts and people 1013 00:36:29,994 --> 00:36:30,735 and local, 1014 00:36:31,114 --> 00:36:31,614 leaders 1015 00:36:31,994 --> 00:36:32,894 in the society 1016 00:36:33,434 --> 00:36:34,655 to govern Gaza. 1017 00:36:35,049 --> 00:36:36,969 We don't want to have a Hamas rule 1018 00:36:36,969 --> 00:36:40,029 in Gaza. They've openly said it multiple times. 1019 00:36:40,569 --> 00:36:42,889 Israel does not care about that, and Israel 1020 00:36:42,889 --> 00:36:45,690 says even after, you know, defeating Hamas, they 1021 00:36:45,690 --> 00:36:48,704 wanna keep going. That they repeatedly said this. 1022 00:36:48,864 --> 00:36:50,164 So now we're hearing, 1023 00:36:50,704 --> 00:36:53,184 this talk. In my opinion, when we hear 1024 00:36:53,184 --> 00:36:54,565 these kinds of, 1025 00:36:55,905 --> 00:36:56,405 announcements, 1026 00:36:56,945 --> 00:37:00,325 it's normally to do with the Israeli domestic 1027 00:37:00,465 --> 00:37:03,125 audience. Because after Iran struck 1028 00:37:03,690 --> 00:37:04,349 the Israelis, 1029 00:37:04,730 --> 00:37:07,150 the appetite for the war in Gaza decreased. 1030 00:37:07,530 --> 00:37:10,030 It's weird because the, support for Netanyahu 1031 00:37:10,409 --> 00:37:12,409 increased because they believed a lot of his 1032 00:37:12,409 --> 00:37:14,809 claims, but the appetite for the war in 1033 00:37:14,809 --> 00:37:18,074 Gaza decreased because the people actually, you know, 1034 00:37:18,155 --> 00:37:19,994 got hit by a country that has the 1035 00:37:19,994 --> 00:37:23,214 ability to properly defend itself once. And so 1036 00:37:23,755 --> 00:37:27,195 the the Israeli population overwhelmingly wants a ceasefire 1037 00:37:27,195 --> 00:37:29,214 and a prisoner exchange. Now it's, 1038 00:37:30,234 --> 00:37:33,090 the vast majority of Israelis want it now, 1039 00:37:33,809 --> 00:37:35,010 because they wanna wrap it up. And the 1040 00:37:35,010 --> 00:37:36,849 reason for that is very clear. They they 1041 00:37:36,849 --> 00:37:38,769 say it openly. We're losing too much soldiers 1042 00:37:38,769 --> 00:37:39,430 in Gaza. 1043 00:37:39,809 --> 00:37:41,489 Our soldiers are being killed in a more 1044 00:37:41,489 --> 00:37:43,250 rapid rate now. We don't know what we're 1045 00:37:43,250 --> 00:37:45,809 doing. Our military operation is not working, and 1046 00:37:45,809 --> 00:37:48,005 we wanna get back to normal life. And 1047 00:37:48,005 --> 00:37:48,505 so 1048 00:37:48,965 --> 00:37:51,305 because that pressure is there, Netanyahu, 1049 00:37:52,244 --> 00:37:54,485 he knows that, well, I need to give 1050 00:37:54,485 --> 00:37:56,905 the people something to, you know, feed on 1051 00:37:57,045 --> 00:37:58,585 to sort of cool down, 1052 00:37:59,445 --> 00:38:01,285 you know, their sentiments and and try and 1053 00:38:01,285 --> 00:38:03,224 stop some of these protests again, 1054 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,039 within the Israeli society because he knows if 1055 00:38:06,039 --> 00:38:07,260 he goes to a ceasefire 1056 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,360 and he doesn't achieve anything in Gaza, he's 1057 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,619 lost the war per his own 1058 00:38:13,079 --> 00:38:15,019 announcements before his own people. 1059 00:38:15,494 --> 00:38:17,654 There is a question about, okay, his real 1060 00:38:17,654 --> 00:38:19,734 aim was a genocide, which we all know 1061 00:38:19,734 --> 00:38:21,894 that his real aim was, okay, we're not 1062 00:38:21,894 --> 00:38:23,574 going to crush Hamas. We're going to crush 1063 00:38:23,574 --> 00:38:26,214 the Gaza people. And then by extension, what 1064 00:38:26,214 --> 00:38:28,320 that would mean is basically that, you know, 1065 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,200 once we ethnically cleanse Gaza, well well, Hamas 1066 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,079 cannot exist then anyway. Right? That was his 1067 00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:34,900 real strategy 1068 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,200 reading in between the lines and even reading 1069 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,380 their own statements. They they say it openly. 1070 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:40,260 But, 1071 00:38:41,304 --> 00:38:44,105 his stated goals were crushing Hamas and returning 1072 00:38:44,105 --> 00:38:45,945 the captives by force, which he's not been 1073 00:38:45,945 --> 00:38:48,045 able to do. And so his coalition 1074 00:38:48,905 --> 00:38:49,724 could collapse 1075 00:38:50,265 --> 00:38:51,085 in on itself. 1076 00:38:51,704 --> 00:38:53,224 And that's not just a bad thing if 1077 00:38:53,224 --> 00:38:55,630 it goes to instant elections and he loses 1078 00:38:55,630 --> 00:38:57,409 here because he can't actually, 1079 00:38:58,349 --> 00:39:00,590 have a vote of, no confidence against him 1080 00:39:00,590 --> 00:39:02,289 now for about five months, 1081 00:39:02,670 --> 00:39:05,389 because the last one failed. But even next 1082 00:39:05,389 --> 00:39:05,889 year, 1083 00:39:06,510 --> 00:39:07,409 come the elections, 1084 00:39:08,414 --> 00:39:10,494 if he loses his coalition partners, he's done 1085 00:39:10,494 --> 00:39:12,755 as a politician, and then that corruption trial 1086 00:39:12,894 --> 00:39:14,815 could come in and put him in jail, 1087 00:39:14,815 --> 00:39:17,215 and he knows that. Right. And, also, you 1088 00:39:17,215 --> 00:39:19,155 know, what is Israel after this? 1089 00:39:19,535 --> 00:39:21,074 I I don't think it's the 1090 00:39:21,410 --> 00:39:24,849 the same entity that existed before October 7. 1091 00:39:24,849 --> 00:39:27,730 I think Israel no longer exists. It's trying 1092 00:39:27,730 --> 00:39:30,050 to redefine itself. It's trying to expand its 1093 00:39:30,050 --> 00:39:32,610 territory. It's trying to achieve victories where there 1094 00:39:32,610 --> 00:39:34,630 is no victory to be achieved, 1095 00:39:35,735 --> 00:39:37,815 and and there is no Israel anymore. I 1096 00:39:37,815 --> 00:39:39,914 don't think an Israel exists anymore. 1097 00:39:40,215 --> 00:39:41,515 There is a 1098 00:39:41,974 --> 00:39:43,195 genocidal entity, 1099 00:39:44,055 --> 00:39:46,295 which is trying to redefine its vision and 1100 00:39:46,295 --> 00:39:46,795 redefine 1101 00:39:47,175 --> 00:39:48,875 what it is. Right. 1102 00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:50,599 And it's very divided 1103 00:39:50,900 --> 00:39:53,380 as well. The the the Israeli society can't 1104 00:39:53,380 --> 00:39:55,779 even figure out what Israel is anymore or 1105 00:39:55,779 --> 00:39:57,400 even what order should be. 1106 00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:00,119 So, you know, 1107 00:40:00,500 --> 00:40:01,960 all of this talk about ceasefire, 1108 00:40:02,565 --> 00:40:03,464 it is possible, 1109 00:40:03,764 --> 00:40:04,744 and I would say 1110 00:40:05,045 --> 00:40:06,025 the the largest 1111 00:40:06,724 --> 00:40:08,025 if it's going to happen, 1112 00:40:08,324 --> 00:40:09,224 in my opinion, 1113 00:40:09,605 --> 00:40:11,605 and I may be wrong. I've gotten things 1114 00:40:11,605 --> 00:40:14,005 wrong before. I've gotten quite a few things 1115 00:40:14,005 --> 00:40:14,505 wrong. 1116 00:40:16,170 --> 00:40:18,250 I believe that it would be to clear 1117 00:40:18,250 --> 00:40:20,409 the Gaza front out of the situation, to 1118 00:40:20,409 --> 00:40:22,489 take Gaza out of the situation so that 1119 00:40:22,489 --> 00:40:23,869 they can focus on Iran. 1120 00:40:24,170 --> 00:40:26,109 Mhmm. That would be my guess, 1121 00:40:26,969 --> 00:40:28,815 if there is a ceasefire that is, 1122 00:40:29,295 --> 00:40:31,135 reached. It would be purely so that they 1123 00:40:31,135 --> 00:40:32,275 can focus on 1124 00:40:32,574 --> 00:40:34,755 Iran and take Gaza out because Gaza 1125 00:40:35,054 --> 00:40:36,574 in the case that there's an all out 1126 00:40:36,574 --> 00:40:37,554 regional war, 1127 00:40:38,014 --> 00:40:40,275 Gaza could pose an enormous threat. 1128 00:40:40,989 --> 00:40:43,950 They could. Especially, the Israeli military is focused 1129 00:40:43,950 --> 00:40:46,210 up up north with the Hezbollah attack. 1130 00:40:47,070 --> 00:40:49,150 It could pose an enormous threat, and I 1131 00:40:49,150 --> 00:40:50,450 think they understand this. 1132 00:40:50,989 --> 00:40:52,349 Yeah. So this is interesting. So in a 1133 00:40:52,349 --> 00:40:54,110 backward way, this could ultimately end up being 1134 00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:55,905 a positive from Gaza's perspective that this could 1135 00:40:55,905 --> 00:40:57,344 drive them to want to take it for 1136 00:40:57,344 --> 00:41:00,304 strategic reasons, which would whatever causes it, at 1137 00:41:00,304 --> 00:41:02,304 least a stopping for the moment would be 1138 00:41:02,304 --> 00:41:04,144 good in Gaza. Right? So, I mean, just 1139 00:41:04,144 --> 00:41:06,304 on a quick side note, prediction. Mark my 1140 00:41:06,304 --> 00:41:07,905 words, everyone listening. I'm willing to bet you 1141 00:41:07,905 --> 00:41:10,199 if that happens, here's what will follow. The 1142 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,420 Q community is gonna warp this into Trump 1143 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:16,199 deliberately tricked Netanyahu into bombing Iran, therefore getting 1144 00:41:16,199 --> 00:41:18,199 his attention over there to cause the ceasefire 1145 00:41:18,199 --> 00:41:20,280 because he's the peace president. Watch. I'm willing 1146 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:21,639 to bet you anything that's what happens even 1147 00:41:21,639 --> 00:41:22,380 though that's 1148 00:41:22,724 --> 00:41:25,204 absurdly ridiculous when you consider all the facts 1149 00:41:25,204 --> 00:41:26,805 on the table. Before we go into the 1150 00:41:26,805 --> 00:41:28,724 next part of it, though, there's a weird 1151 00:41:28,724 --> 00:41:30,805 element to this in the ceasefire conversation that 1152 00:41:30,805 --> 00:41:32,644 sort of lingered, and I wanted your thoughts 1153 00:41:32,644 --> 00:41:34,085 on this because I haven't seen it covered 1154 00:41:34,085 --> 00:41:35,605 that much. Now there was a point put 1155 00:41:35,605 --> 00:41:37,030 out, and I did confirm this with the 1156 00:41:37,030 --> 00:41:38,789 actual back and forth, like, the the the 1157 00:41:38,789 --> 00:41:40,789 back and forth of the potential ceasefire points 1158 00:41:40,789 --> 00:41:43,030 going around through the different mediators, which was 1159 00:41:43,030 --> 00:41:43,530 that, 1160 00:41:43,909 --> 00:41:44,889 I think, twice, 1161 00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:47,190 they put forward, like you just said, the 1162 00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:48,730 idea that they would remove themselves 1163 00:41:49,045 --> 00:41:51,605 from the conversation, which met what Israel pretends 1164 00:41:51,605 --> 00:41:53,385 at least that it actually wanted to accomplish 1165 00:41:53,525 --> 00:41:55,204 when we know it's nothing more than that. 1166 00:41:55,204 --> 00:41:57,304 But twice, it seems that the Israeli 1167 00:41:57,764 --> 00:41:58,664 US team 1168 00:41:59,204 --> 00:42:01,980 denied that and then reinserted the language that 1169 00:42:02,059 --> 00:42:03,700 kept them in or changed it to where 1170 00:42:03,700 --> 00:42:05,019 it kept them in as opposed to remove 1171 00:42:05,019 --> 00:42:06,380 now. So would you have thoughts on that? 1172 00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:08,059 Is that even valid? Because I'd heard that 1173 00:42:08,059 --> 00:42:09,500 that would explain a lot, like, that at 1174 00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:10,539 the end of the day when it comes 1175 00:42:10,539 --> 00:42:12,059 to the real point that they're trying to 1176 00:42:12,059 --> 00:42:14,300 make sure Hamas sticks around because it's the 1177 00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:15,900 justification for their endpoint. What do you think 1178 00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:17,340 about that? And is there any evidence to 1179 00:42:17,340 --> 00:42:18,635 that? Well, Hamas 1180 00:42:18,934 --> 00:42:21,574 have said and they actually have said this 1181 00:42:21,574 --> 00:42:23,574 for a long time, and Hamas have not 1182 00:42:23,574 --> 00:42:25,355 wanted to govern independently. 1183 00:42:25,655 --> 00:42:26,875 This is something for, 1184 00:42:27,894 --> 00:42:29,670 years that Hamas has wanted 1185 00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:32,869 to form a unity government. You might remember 1186 00:42:32,869 --> 00:42:34,569 that in 02/2014, there was a rather big 1187 00:42:35,190 --> 00:42:37,030 attack on the Gaza Strip, which lasted, I 1188 00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:38,389 believe, fifty one days. 1189 00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:42,489 And that started because Hamas 1190 00:42:42,949 --> 00:42:44,889 had attempted to sign 1191 00:42:45,545 --> 00:42:48,364 a unity agreement with the Palestinian Authority. 1192 00:42:48,905 --> 00:42:51,885 Hamas has time and time again tried 1193 00:42:52,345 --> 00:42:55,485 to step down and allow others to govern, 1194 00:42:56,105 --> 00:42:57,724 but it won't do that. 1195 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,880 It will it refuses to do that if 1196 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,820 that means sacrificing the weapons 1197 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,140 that protect people, that 1198 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:05,940 prevent 1199 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:07,760 there being an all out, 1200 00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,059 ethnic cleansing. 1201 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,180 Mhmm. As horrible as what we've seen happen, 1202 00:43:13,194 --> 00:43:15,675 you know, unfold before our very eyes, the 1203 00:43:15,675 --> 00:43:17,614 Palestinians still have the ability 1204 00:43:18,074 --> 00:43:19,214 to fight the Israelis. 1205 00:43:19,914 --> 00:43:22,234 It's not, you know, an army against an 1206 00:43:22,234 --> 00:43:25,289 army. You know? These are guerrilla fighters against, 1207 00:43:25,369 --> 00:43:27,949 you know, one of the best equipped militaries, 1208 00:43:28,329 --> 00:43:30,250 armies on the planet, which doesn't actually fight, 1209 00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:32,730 by the way. It it it it's never 1210 00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:35,530 actually tried to engage the Palestinian fighters. If 1211 00:43:35,530 --> 00:43:37,369 it did so, then its casualties would be 1212 00:43:37,369 --> 00:43:39,284 in the tens of thousands, I assure you. 1213 00:43:39,684 --> 00:43:41,924 And they know that because in 02/2014, 1214 00:43:41,924 --> 00:43:43,704 they went in on the ground against Hamas, 1215 00:43:43,764 --> 00:43:45,464 and they got their asses kicked. 1216 00:43:46,164 --> 00:43:48,105 And and that's why they haven't gone 1217 00:43:48,565 --> 00:43:50,405 and tried to seek out Hamas. What they've 1218 00:43:50,405 --> 00:43:53,684 done essentially is they've hit themselves in armored 1219 00:43:53,684 --> 00:43:56,219 vehicles and in tanks. They've not even put 1220 00:43:56,219 --> 00:43:57,760 infantry next to those tanks, 1221 00:43:58,380 --> 00:44:00,059 and they just hope that, well, if if 1222 00:44:00,059 --> 00:44:02,219 an RPG hits the tank in an ambush 1223 00:44:02,219 --> 00:44:03,820 or there's an IED that goes off, there's 1224 00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:05,739 some injuries we can, like, quickly, you know, 1225 00:44:05,739 --> 00:44:06,719 evacuate them. 1226 00:44:07,099 --> 00:44:09,099 And they haven't fought them directly. The only 1227 00:44:09,099 --> 00:44:10,400 footage you can find 1228 00:44:10,784 --> 00:44:11,284 of, 1229 00:44:11,585 --> 00:44:13,744 you know, indirect combat where there's, 1230 00:44:14,065 --> 00:44:14,565 you 1231 00:44:14,944 --> 00:44:17,424 know, one force going after the other is 1232 00:44:17,424 --> 00:44:20,804 Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad, the PFLP, the DFLP, 1233 00:44:20,944 --> 00:44:22,405 Fatah, who are the other groups 1234 00:44:23,150 --> 00:44:26,110 directly engaging the Israeli military. Mhmm. They never 1235 00:44:26,110 --> 00:44:28,210 engaged them. There have been a handful 1236 00:44:28,989 --> 00:44:30,530 of special forces operations. 1237 00:44:31,789 --> 00:44:33,630 Most of them failed. I think only one 1238 00:44:33,630 --> 00:44:34,690 of them succeeded 1239 00:44:35,885 --> 00:44:36,385 against, 1240 00:44:36,844 --> 00:44:39,085 the Palestinian groups. Other than that, they've just 1241 00:44:39,085 --> 00:44:42,204 sat in fortified areas and hid inside buildings, 1242 00:44:42,204 --> 00:44:43,984 and they've been ambushed by the Palestinians. 1243 00:44:44,844 --> 00:44:46,945 And that isn't in of itself a deterrent 1244 00:44:47,324 --> 00:44:49,105 because if you look in the West Bank, 1245 00:44:49,619 --> 00:44:51,380 whatever Israel wants to do in the West 1246 00:44:51,380 --> 00:44:53,779 Bank, it does. It does anything it likes 1247 00:44:53,779 --> 00:44:55,460 to do in the West Bank, and no 1248 00:44:55,460 --> 00:44:57,539 one holds them back because the Palestinian Authority 1249 00:44:57,539 --> 00:45:00,420 collaborate with them. So Hamas will not allow 1250 00:45:00,420 --> 00:45:01,799 their weapons to 1251 00:45:02,179 --> 00:45:03,480 them to drop their weapons, 1252 00:45:04,105 --> 00:45:06,265 and they will not allow an agreement which 1253 00:45:06,265 --> 00:45:08,265 will put a foreign entity in control of 1254 00:45:08,265 --> 00:45:09,325 the Gaza Strip. 1255 00:45:09,864 --> 00:45:11,625 They want a full ceasefire, and they want 1256 00:45:11,625 --> 00:45:13,305 the people of Gaza to run, and they 1257 00:45:13,305 --> 00:45:15,224 want the people of Gaza to still maintain 1258 00:45:15,224 --> 00:45:15,885 a capacity 1259 00:45:16,425 --> 00:45:17,565 even if it's not Hamas 1260 00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:20,980 being, the banner anymore, and they say we're 1261 00:45:20,980 --> 00:45:22,119 no longer Hamas, 1262 00:45:22,820 --> 00:45:24,440 for them to possess a capability 1263 00:45:24,739 --> 00:45:25,719 of self defense. 1264 00:45:26,739 --> 00:45:27,480 And so 1265 00:45:28,099 --> 00:45:30,484 that that's the major issue there is that 1266 00:45:30,484 --> 00:45:31,144 the Israelis 1267 00:45:31,445 --> 00:45:33,844 do not want to allow Hamas to step 1268 00:45:33,844 --> 00:45:36,164 aside and allow Gaza to govern its own 1269 00:45:36,164 --> 00:45:38,324 affairs and then those police forces and those 1270 00:45:38,324 --> 00:45:40,565 resistance fighters to go, okay. Now we're part 1271 00:45:40,565 --> 00:45:41,385 of the Gaza, 1272 00:45:42,005 --> 00:45:42,505 administration 1273 00:45:42,965 --> 00:45:44,905 because they're still gonna have their weapons. 1274 00:45:45,219 --> 00:45:47,460 Right. They're still going to maintain a capacity 1275 00:45:47,460 --> 00:45:48,360 to defend themselves, 1276 00:45:48,660 --> 00:45:51,219 and they can govern themselves. And they know 1277 00:45:51,219 --> 00:45:53,780 what's gonna happen when they gover Gaza governs 1278 00:45:53,780 --> 00:45:56,500 themselves. They will rebuild their territory. And if 1279 00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:58,260 Israel tries to attack them again, they will 1280 00:45:58,260 --> 00:45:59,000 defend themselves. 1281 00:45:59,335 --> 00:46:00,614 And they don't want that. They want a 1282 00:46:00,614 --> 00:46:03,655 defenseless people who are expelled from the land 1283 00:46:03,655 --> 00:46:06,474 or they're completely subdued, and they are incapable 1284 00:46:06,695 --> 00:46:08,375 of standing up for their rights. They want 1285 00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:10,074 them there in a cage in a concentration 1286 00:46:10,295 --> 00:46:10,795 camp, 1287 00:46:11,190 --> 00:46:12,789 and they don't have a solution for them. 1288 00:46:12,789 --> 00:46:15,030 Their only solutions are either to expel the 1289 00:46:15,030 --> 00:46:18,089 entire population or exterminate them all. Right. So 1290 00:46:18,309 --> 00:46:20,469 that is the problem that the Israelis have, 1291 00:46:20,469 --> 00:46:21,449 but they can't, 1292 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:24,309 expel them all because if they expel them 1293 00:46:24,309 --> 00:46:26,005 all, then that creates that destabilizes 1294 00:46:26,385 --> 00:46:27,364 Egypt and Jordan. 1295 00:46:27,664 --> 00:46:29,905 So then suddenly, now you've opened up two 1296 00:46:29,905 --> 00:46:31,824 more fronts against yourself. Right. 1297 00:46:32,305 --> 00:46:34,324 So the Israelis are just genocidal 1298 00:46:34,785 --> 00:46:38,324 maniacs with the country's population, which overwhelmingly 1299 00:46:38,785 --> 00:46:40,885 agrees with this genocidal mania. 1300 00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:42,460 And 1301 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,219 this is what they're carrying out. 1302 00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:47,000 And there's no other way to describe it. 1303 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:48,679 Yeah. And and what's interesting is you can 1304 00:46:48,679 --> 00:46:51,159 point this out. So exactly the point you 1305 00:46:51,159 --> 00:46:53,239 made, which I think the evidence speaks for 1306 00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:55,639 itself. The intention was a genocide. I think 1307 00:46:55,639 --> 00:46:57,614 that's self evident at this point. And so 1308 00:46:57,614 --> 00:47:00,175 if your intention was always genocide, then then 1309 00:47:00,175 --> 00:47:02,094 even from a strategic standpoint, why would you 1310 00:47:02,094 --> 00:47:03,614 send in all those troops? Why wouldn't you 1311 00:47:03,614 --> 00:47:05,695 just or, you know, infantry. Why would you 1312 00:47:05,695 --> 00:47:07,454 just bomb them into submit you're like, well, 1313 00:47:07,454 --> 00:47:09,215 it's the submission is a different point. They're 1314 00:47:09,215 --> 00:47:10,489 not clearly, they're not even doing that. But, 1315 00:47:10,489 --> 00:47:12,329 you know, just bomb them relentlessly until you 1316 00:47:12,329 --> 00:47:13,609 kill them all. I mean, that it you 1317 00:47:13,609 --> 00:47:16,030 know, the my point is it explains itself. 1318 00:47:16,170 --> 00:47:18,329 You can see why they chose. Your point 1319 00:47:18,329 --> 00:47:20,250 is also obviously there. They know they can't 1320 00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,170 succeed in in any right. But my point 1321 00:47:22,170 --> 00:47:23,530 would be that there might be points where 1322 00:47:23,530 --> 00:47:25,049 you might do that. The reason they seem 1323 00:47:25,049 --> 00:47:27,005 not to is because they're not only sacrificing 1324 00:47:27,224 --> 00:47:28,585 their own people in that way. As you 1325 00:47:28,585 --> 00:47:30,105 can see, endless videos of, 1326 00:47:30,585 --> 00:47:31,404 hidden Palestinian, 1327 00:47:31,784 --> 00:47:33,625 you know, military elements running up and putting 1328 00:47:33,625 --> 00:47:35,304 bombs in the tanks, running away because as 1329 00:47:35,304 --> 00:47:36,505 you said, there's no one there to protect 1330 00:47:36,505 --> 00:47:37,784 them. You know? And it's it's just they're 1331 00:47:37,784 --> 00:47:39,704 willing to sacrifice those people because they know 1332 00:47:39,704 --> 00:47:40,579 it's just about 1333 00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,039 mass execution, at least as my opinion, but 1334 00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:45,039 I think the evidence speaks for itself. Well, 1335 00:47:45,039 --> 00:47:47,360 there's the genocide there, and then there is 1336 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,119 the performance that has to be put on 1337 00:47:49,119 --> 00:47:50,340 for the psychopathic, 1338 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:52,820 ill 1339 00:47:53,815 --> 00:47:54,795 Israeli population. 1340 00:47:55,494 --> 00:47:57,994 They're they are. They're they're they're a nation, 1341 00:47:58,934 --> 00:47:59,755 that are 1342 00:48:00,855 --> 00:48:01,355 sadistic 1343 00:48:02,135 --> 00:48:05,195 and support overwhelmingly according to all the polls, 1344 00:48:05,809 --> 00:48:06,309 genocide. 1345 00:48:06,610 --> 00:48:10,070 Yep. Overwhelmingly, they support genocide. So this really 1346 00:48:11,170 --> 00:48:13,969 quickly. The majority clearly does. That's proven time 1347 00:48:13,969 --> 00:48:15,409 and time again, but I do think it's 1348 00:48:15,409 --> 00:48:17,250 always valid to point out that there's not 1349 00:48:17,250 --> 00:48:19,090 an insignificant amount of people that do stand 1350 00:48:19,090 --> 00:48:20,289 up and push back on this stuff, but 1351 00:48:20,289 --> 00:48:22,505 it's definitely minor in compared. And I just 1352 00:48:22,585 --> 00:48:24,184 unless they're lying about it, which is possible. 1353 00:48:24,184 --> 00:48:25,704 I just I do see, you know, groups 1354 00:48:25,704 --> 00:48:27,465 of orthodox Jewish communities or people that are 1355 00:48:27,465 --> 00:48:30,025 saying Zionism is doesn't represent us. They're being 1356 00:48:30,025 --> 00:48:31,785 genocided. You know? And it's it's just large 1357 00:48:31,785 --> 00:48:33,945 groups, but it's definitely a small minority. I 1358 00:48:33,945 --> 00:48:35,465 just think that's important to point out. Jewish 1359 00:48:35,465 --> 00:48:37,969 Jewish people are different because then you're looking 1360 00:48:37,969 --> 00:48:40,050 at other countries. I meant I meant just 1361 00:48:40,050 --> 00:48:41,569 in Israel, though. But but you're you're right. 1362 00:48:41,569 --> 00:48:43,889 Go ahead. Are the Israeli Jewish population, like, 1363 00:48:43,889 --> 00:48:44,550 the ultraorthodox 1364 00:48:45,010 --> 00:48:46,389 are another question. 1365 00:48:47,329 --> 00:48:47,989 You know, 1366 00:48:48,530 --> 00:48:50,355 they're they don't actively participate 1367 00:48:51,554 --> 00:48:53,600 in the Israeli military in their views. They 1368 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,155 don't really care about a modern nation state 1369 00:48:55,155 --> 00:48:55,715 per se. 1370 00:48:56,914 --> 00:48:58,914 And there are elements of them that have, 1371 00:48:58,914 --> 00:49:00,994 you know, come out and their groups that 1372 00:49:00,994 --> 00:49:02,054 protest against 1373 00:49:02,434 --> 00:49:03,734 the Israelis treatment 1374 00:49:04,359 --> 00:49:06,199 of Palestinians. It's not the majority, by the 1375 00:49:06,199 --> 00:49:08,139 way. Right. But it is a portion. 1376 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,480 And then there's, you know, some people that 1377 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,400 are more to the left. There's a very 1378 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,179 small portion of these people. 1379 00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,880 It's a very, very, very, very, very small 1380 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,920 portion of the Israeli, 1381 00:49:19,894 --> 00:49:22,155 population, but they do exist, of course. 1382 00:49:23,255 --> 00:49:25,014 Of course, then you have Jewish people in 1383 00:49:25,014 --> 00:49:27,175 other countries, which, you know, are standing up, 1384 00:49:27,414 --> 00:49:28,775 you know, in all of the protests, and 1385 00:49:28,775 --> 00:49:30,875 we see the actions of Jewish people, 1386 00:49:31,375 --> 00:49:33,734 in The UK or in Germany or in 1387 00:49:33,734 --> 00:49:36,319 France or The United States, Canada, etcetera. 1388 00:49:37,019 --> 00:49:38,079 That's another question. 1389 00:49:38,779 --> 00:49:40,719 But in terms of the Israeli 1390 00:49:41,260 --> 00:49:43,119 majority of the Israeli Jewish society, 1391 00:49:43,420 --> 00:49:44,639 all the polls demonstrate. 1392 00:49:45,579 --> 00:49:47,199 They not only do they not, 1393 00:49:47,539 --> 00:49:49,905 do they support genocide killing everyone in the 1394 00:49:49,905 --> 00:49:51,664 city that they capture when it comes to 1395 00:49:51,664 --> 00:49:53,844 Gaza. Mhmm. They also overwhelmingly 1396 00:49:54,304 --> 00:49:57,344 support not caring about civilian life when they're 1397 00:49:57,344 --> 00:49:59,684 bombing Iran. They did polls on this recently. 1398 00:50:00,144 --> 00:50:01,585 I think a 73% 1399 00:50:01,585 --> 00:50:03,744 of the Israeli Jewish population said they don't 1400 00:50:04,144 --> 00:50:05,445 basically, they don't care, 1401 00:50:06,019 --> 00:50:07,619 and they don't think there should be much 1402 00:50:07,619 --> 00:50:08,119 consideration 1403 00:50:08,820 --> 00:50:09,719 for civilians 1404 00:50:10,260 --> 00:50:11,480 when bombing Iran. 1405 00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:14,179 That is the population they're dealing with. And 1406 00:50:14,179 --> 00:50:17,139 so the Israeli media and the Israeli political 1407 00:50:17,139 --> 00:50:17,639 leadership 1408 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:19,559 have to deal with this psychotic 1409 00:50:20,019 --> 00:50:20,519 population, 1410 00:50:21,315 --> 00:50:23,255 which are quite frankly 1411 00:50:23,635 --> 00:50:24,135 genocidal, 1412 00:50:24,914 --> 00:50:27,014 the vast majority of them. 1413 00:50:27,474 --> 00:50:29,734 And they have to convince them, you're winning. 1414 00:50:29,954 --> 00:50:30,775 You're the heroes. 1415 00:50:31,074 --> 00:50:33,494 Right. Also, you're victims at the same time, 1416 00:50:33,635 --> 00:50:34,295 and Netanyahu's 1417 00:50:34,594 --> 00:50:36,355 doing this. And then he's gonna try to 1418 00:50:36,514 --> 00:50:38,410 and there's gotta be this big theater. And 1419 00:50:38,410 --> 00:50:40,430 that's why the army's in there, like, operation 1420 00:50:40,489 --> 00:50:43,289 Gideon's chariots too, which just started around, like, 1421 00:50:43,289 --> 00:50:44,730 I think a month ago now. I can't 1422 00:50:44,730 --> 00:50:45,230 remember. 1423 00:50:45,849 --> 00:50:47,449 Was supposed to be phase two of the 1424 00:50:47,449 --> 00:50:49,690 war, and I remember writing articles when it 1425 00:50:49,690 --> 00:50:51,554 just started. And I said this will be 1426 00:50:51,554 --> 00:50:53,394 exactly more of the same of what we 1427 00:50:53,394 --> 00:50:55,474 saw in the first phase so called of 1428 00:50:55,474 --> 00:50:57,875 the war. There will be nothing different. The 1429 00:50:57,875 --> 00:50:59,954 Israeli military I I laid it out step 1430 00:50:59,954 --> 00:51:02,275 by step Mhmm. And exactly what I said 1431 00:51:02,275 --> 00:51:02,775 happened. 1432 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,679 And and now this operation Gideon's chariots, its 1433 00:51:06,679 --> 00:51:08,059 wheels have fallen off, 1434 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,920 and it and it's achieved absolutely nothing. And 1435 00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:13,159 they haven't done all these big operations, and 1436 00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:15,159 we're gonna go in and smash Hamas and 1437 00:51:15,159 --> 00:51:17,000 Khan Yunus and then Deir El Barak, and, 1438 00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:18,199 oh, we're gonna do this and this and 1439 00:51:18,199 --> 00:51:20,934 this, and we're gonna achieve victory over the 1440 00:51:20,934 --> 00:51:21,434 telangi 1441 00:51:21,815 --> 00:51:22,715 and all of this. 1442 00:51:23,494 --> 00:51:24,875 They haven't achieved that. 1443 00:51:25,894 --> 00:51:27,894 And, obviously, they haven't achieved that. And now 1444 00:51:27,894 --> 00:51:30,054 the Israeli public go, oh, well, we're getting 1445 00:51:30,054 --> 00:51:32,054 killed. Our soldiers are being killed. It's like, 1446 00:51:32,054 --> 00:51:34,460 yeah. Well, you're going and and running incursions 1447 00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:36,940 into areas where armed groups are. Mhmm. 1448 00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:39,659 And these armed groups are people who've lost 1449 00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,760 sometimes their entire families, and you're like, oh, 1450 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,920 our poor soldiers are being killed. So now 1451 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:46,219 there has to be a performance. 1452 00:51:46,944 --> 00:51:47,684 And Netanyahu 1453 00:51:47,984 --> 00:51:49,664 has to put on a performance for his 1454 00:51:49,664 --> 00:51:50,885 psychotic population 1455 00:51:51,264 --> 00:51:52,005 who are 1456 00:51:52,464 --> 00:51:52,964 so 1457 00:51:53,344 --> 00:51:53,844 insane 1458 00:51:54,304 --> 00:51:56,304 that it's like, well, when we lose seven 1459 00:51:56,304 --> 00:51:58,224 soldiers, it's the end of the world, but 1460 00:51:58,224 --> 00:52:01,125 it's okay that we massacre 50 children today. 1461 00:52:01,550 --> 00:52:03,710 It's okay that we starve to deaf children 1462 00:52:03,710 --> 00:52:04,210 today. 1463 00:52:04,750 --> 00:52:07,389 It's okay that we tested new chemical munitions 1464 00:52:07,389 --> 00:52:09,789 on them today. It's okay that we lured 1465 00:52:09,789 --> 00:52:11,250 people into an aid point, 1466 00:52:11,869 --> 00:52:13,630 after starving them and then shot them in 1467 00:52:13,630 --> 00:52:15,570 the head today. But how dare 1468 00:52:15,994 --> 00:52:18,394 our 19 year old sergeants, which is another 1469 00:52:18,394 --> 00:52:19,614 thing of their participation 1470 00:52:19,994 --> 00:52:22,335 trophy army. It's not a real army. 1471 00:52:22,954 --> 00:52:25,275 19 year old sergeants. Oh, no. Six of 1472 00:52:25,275 --> 00:52:27,515 our 19 year old sergeants, which were placed 1473 00:52:27,515 --> 00:52:30,494 in one armored personnel carrier were killed today. 1474 00:52:30,619 --> 00:52:32,400 Oh my god. We need a ceasefire. 1475 00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:34,000 Oh, we're suffering. 1476 00:52:34,460 --> 00:52:35,519 Oh, it's so horrible. 1477 00:52:36,219 --> 00:52:38,719 And then here comes the performance by Netanyahu 1478 00:52:39,739 --> 00:52:41,500 to to, you know, make them feel good 1479 00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:43,820 about themselves just like when they, they kept 1480 00:52:43,820 --> 00:52:45,199 delaying Gideon's chariot. 1481 00:52:45,515 --> 00:52:48,795 And the performance came. These statements by Iel 1482 00:52:48,795 --> 00:52:51,195 Zamir, the, chief of staff of the Israeli 1483 00:52:51,195 --> 00:52:53,994 military, we will launch a crushing blow against 1484 00:52:53,994 --> 00:52:54,494 Hamas, 1485 00:52:54,795 --> 00:52:56,555 and we are going to destroy them, and 1486 00:52:56,555 --> 00:52:57,914 we're gonna do this, and we're gonna do 1487 00:52:57,914 --> 00:53:00,349 that. All these statements about we have new 1488 00:53:00,349 --> 00:53:02,349 weapons, and The US have given us this, 1489 00:53:02,349 --> 00:53:04,190 and and then they go in and nothing 1490 00:53:04,190 --> 00:53:06,750 happens. It's just more bombing of civilian areas, 1491 00:53:06,750 --> 00:53:08,190 and then their troops go in and do 1492 00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:10,530 exactly what they did before and get killed. 1493 00:53:10,974 --> 00:53:12,434 It it's just it's 1494 00:53:12,974 --> 00:53:13,375 it's, 1495 00:53:13,855 --> 00:53:15,375 I don't know. It's you can't make this 1496 00:53:15,375 --> 00:53:16,514 stuff up. It's just 1497 00:53:16,815 --> 00:53:18,835 so psychotic and covering it. 1498 00:53:19,295 --> 00:53:20,194 It quite frankly, 1499 00:53:20,894 --> 00:53:22,335 it gives you a headache. It gives you 1500 00:53:22,335 --> 00:53:24,494 a headache trying to because even as I'm 1501 00:53:24,494 --> 00:53:25,795 explaining it to you, 1502 00:53:26,460 --> 00:53:26,960 I 1503 00:53:27,420 --> 00:53:28,239 can't can't 1504 00:53:28,539 --> 00:53:31,440 contain myself, but to use words like psychotic 1505 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:32,239 and sadistic 1506 00:53:32,619 --> 00:53:34,239 because it's so insane. 1507 00:53:34,619 --> 00:53:36,699 It is. I mean, it's it's compelling. Remain 1508 00:53:36,699 --> 00:53:37,199 objective. 1509 00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:38,639 It's just insane. 1510 00:53:39,005 --> 00:53:40,285 It is. And and it's you know what 1511 00:53:40,285 --> 00:53:41,644 it is, Robert, at least in my opinion, 1512 00:53:41,644 --> 00:53:43,965 is that it's it's obvious. It's it's when 1513 00:53:43,965 --> 00:53:46,045 you're looking at something that is self evident. 1514 00:53:46,045 --> 00:53:47,885 You know? It's and they're just making up 1515 00:53:47,885 --> 00:53:49,644 a narrative around why it's not that, and 1516 00:53:49,644 --> 00:53:51,940 then that alone is frustrating. You know? But 1517 00:53:51,940 --> 00:53:54,260 then that you get these massive influential groups 1518 00:53:54,260 --> 00:53:56,660 of people who you clearly know they know 1519 00:53:56,660 --> 00:53:58,340 that's not true, that don't care, and then 1520 00:53:58,340 --> 00:54:00,579 drive you know, create these narrative stories around 1521 00:54:00,579 --> 00:54:02,820 the lie, and that becomes this massive thing. 1522 00:54:02,820 --> 00:54:05,140 You it's it's, like, exhausting that we even 1523 00:54:05,140 --> 00:54:06,384 have to why do we even have to 1524 00:54:06,384 --> 00:54:08,545 step into that ridiculous conversation? Like, I get 1525 00:54:08,545 --> 00:54:09,764 it. It's it's overwhelmingly 1526 00:54:10,065 --> 00:54:11,744 frustrating. But, you know, I think what's 1527 00:54:12,625 --> 00:54:15,025 the the whole thing is that, clearly, we 1528 00:54:15,025 --> 00:54:17,025 all can see based on the evidence what's 1529 00:54:17,025 --> 00:54:19,505 actually taking place. We we should stop, you 1530 00:54:19,505 --> 00:54:20,324 know, even 1531 00:54:21,260 --> 00:54:23,500 giving these people time about the arguments. The 1532 00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:25,339 problem is that they have influence. They've got 1533 00:54:25,339 --> 00:54:27,659 funding. They've got resources. You know? And, clearly, 1534 00:54:27,659 --> 00:54:29,019 they do have an effect on some people. 1535 00:54:29,019 --> 00:54:30,219 Back to my point, though, is I think 1536 00:54:30,219 --> 00:54:32,460 that most people are seeing this because of 1537 00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:34,300 work like yours, because of the efforts that 1538 00:54:34,300 --> 00:54:35,900 we're continuing to put forward. And I think 1539 00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:38,035 there's something, you know, powerful there. You know? 1540 00:54:38,035 --> 00:54:39,795 But it's only gonna get crazier. They're only 1541 00:54:39,795 --> 00:54:42,775 gonna get more absurd and more forceful and 1542 00:54:42,835 --> 00:54:45,235 scream more racism, you know, as this continues 1543 00:54:45,235 --> 00:54:46,594 on. So I think that the point is 1544 00:54:46,594 --> 00:54:47,954 to keep doing what we're doing and keep 1545 00:54:47,954 --> 00:54:50,190 highlighting this. I know you have a short 1546 00:54:50,190 --> 00:54:52,110 limited time. We're on up against the hour 1547 00:54:52,110 --> 00:54:53,869 here. You wanna talk about Iran before we 1548 00:54:53,869 --> 00:54:55,550 go today a little bit more about the 1549 00:54:55,550 --> 00:54:56,829 same kind of stuff we talked about, but 1550 00:54:56,829 --> 00:54:58,429 we've been touching on a little bit. You 1551 00:54:58,429 --> 00:55:00,429 know, give me your, you know, five minute 1552 00:55:00,429 --> 00:55:02,429 overview of what's happening there and, you know, 1553 00:55:02,429 --> 00:55:05,085 the the the same thing, the the ceasefire 1554 00:55:05,085 --> 00:55:07,324 claims, whether the the validity of the bombings, 1555 00:55:07,324 --> 00:55:08,925 you know, whatever you think is most important 1556 00:55:08,925 --> 00:55:10,684 to encapsulate before we have to run out 1557 00:55:10,684 --> 00:55:12,285 of time here. I think there's a few 1558 00:55:12,285 --> 00:55:14,925 things to to note there with, the attack 1559 00:55:14,925 --> 00:55:16,224 on Iran. Obviously, 1560 00:55:17,005 --> 00:55:17,824 there is the international law and 1561 00:55:19,550 --> 00:55:20,050 disintegration 1562 00:55:20,349 --> 00:55:22,349 of the United Nations and its charter on 1563 00:55:22,349 --> 00:55:24,610 one hand, and then there's what actually happened. 1564 00:55:25,309 --> 00:55:27,070 Perhaps I'll start with what happens and we 1565 00:55:27,070 --> 00:55:28,530 can, you know, summarize, 1566 00:55:29,150 --> 00:55:29,890 the implications 1567 00:55:30,269 --> 00:55:33,010 on the international post World War two system. 1568 00:55:33,974 --> 00:55:36,715 When the Israelis launched their surprise attack, which 1569 00:55:36,775 --> 00:55:38,295 is what it was, it was not a 1570 00:55:38,295 --> 00:55:41,015 preemptive attack because there's no evidence that there 1571 00:55:41,015 --> 00:55:42,315 was anything to preempt, 1572 00:55:43,175 --> 00:55:44,875 and it was in the midst of negotiations. 1573 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:47,260 When they launched their attack, 1574 00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,960 I believe that the biggest mistake they made 1575 00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,760 was they went after residential areas because they 1576 00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:55,960 invited the largest possible Iranian response in the 1577 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,119 first round. But what Israel did is it 1578 00:55:58,119 --> 00:55:59,639 thought, well, we can go after it. If 1579 00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:01,105 you read all the fintechs and what they 1580 00:56:01,105 --> 00:56:02,945 were saying, oh, Iran is so weak. And 1581 00:56:02,945 --> 00:56:05,105 if Israel does x y zed, then the 1582 00:56:05,105 --> 00:56:06,625 Iranians will be put on the back foot, 1583 00:56:06,625 --> 00:56:08,805 and we can close this quickly, etcetera, etcetera. 1584 00:56:09,105 --> 00:56:12,085 The Israelis went in, and they assassinated essentially 1585 00:56:12,144 --> 00:56:12,644 30 1586 00:56:13,340 --> 00:56:14,960 generals, IRGC generals, 1587 00:56:15,820 --> 00:56:17,519 and I think seven scientists. 1588 00:56:19,019 --> 00:56:21,179 And they took down residential buildings to do 1589 00:56:21,179 --> 00:56:24,699 this. They believe that Iran, like Hezbollah, would 1590 00:56:24,699 --> 00:56:27,039 be sort of knocked off balance by this 1591 00:56:27,184 --> 00:56:29,284 and wouldn't be able to mount a considerable, 1592 00:56:30,304 --> 00:56:32,484 retaliation. Hezbollah, in their case, 1593 00:56:33,344 --> 00:56:33,844 the, 1594 00:56:35,025 --> 00:56:35,525 strikes 1595 00:56:36,065 --> 00:56:38,945 that, eliminated its leadership, its senior leadership, and 1596 00:56:38,945 --> 00:56:40,244 some of its middle command, 1597 00:56:41,579 --> 00:56:43,260 it ended up putting it on the back 1598 00:56:43,260 --> 00:56:46,220 foot. Hezbollah was still capable of surviving and 1599 00:56:46,220 --> 00:56:48,059 and fighting on the ground and repelling an 1600 00:56:48,059 --> 00:56:49,039 Israeli incursion, 1601 00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:53,099 but Hezbollah was seriously damaged. There's no question 1602 00:56:53,099 --> 00:56:54,695 about it in that fighting. 1603 00:56:55,315 --> 00:56:56,215 It was a blow. 1604 00:56:57,394 --> 00:56:59,875 Now it's recovering, but it's different. You know, 1605 00:56:59,875 --> 00:57:02,035 like, the Israelis could go in and attack 1606 00:57:02,035 --> 00:57:04,135 them in a way that nobody thought possible. 1607 00:57:04,195 --> 00:57:06,914 The Iranians, they completely miscalculated. They thought that 1608 00:57:06,914 --> 00:57:09,360 this blow was going to be, you know, 1609 00:57:09,659 --> 00:57:12,300 essentially, a knockdown blow, and the Iranians weren't 1610 00:57:12,300 --> 00:57:14,480 going to be able to find their, footing. 1611 00:57:14,780 --> 00:57:16,940 And even I spoke to, a range of 1612 00:57:16,940 --> 00:57:17,440 contacts, 1613 00:57:18,059 --> 00:57:21,019 military contacts, some analysts, and then some ex, 1614 00:57:21,820 --> 00:57:23,199 US military contacts. 1615 00:57:23,804 --> 00:57:25,505 And they all told me the same thing. 1616 00:57:25,885 --> 00:57:28,125 They said between two to five days, it's 1617 00:57:28,125 --> 00:57:29,964 gonna take Iran to just get back on 1618 00:57:29,964 --> 00:57:33,025 its feet. Don't expect any retaliation anytime soon, 1619 00:57:33,085 --> 00:57:34,545 you know, all of this stuff. 1620 00:57:35,420 --> 00:57:37,739 Iran's air defenses were taken offline for the 1621 00:57:37,739 --> 00:57:39,500 first portion of that attack because of the 1622 00:57:39,500 --> 00:57:42,140 fact that the Israelis have this vast network 1623 00:57:42,140 --> 00:57:43,360 of, collaborators 1624 00:57:44,300 --> 00:57:46,619 on the ground inside of Iran, thousands of 1625 00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:47,119 them, 1626 00:57:47,420 --> 00:57:49,214 that had worked. You know? And most of 1627 00:57:49,214 --> 00:57:51,054 the attacks in the end were actually carried 1628 00:57:51,054 --> 00:57:52,894 out by Mossad agents and not by the 1629 00:57:52,894 --> 00:57:55,134 Israelis themselves. That really quickly that you brought 1630 00:57:55,134 --> 00:57:56,414 up in the past, by the way. You've 1631 00:57:56,414 --> 00:57:58,574 mentioned this discussion about the in the them 1632 00:57:58,574 --> 00:58:01,054 using these sleeper elements inside of Iran. So 1633 00:58:01,054 --> 00:58:03,230 I just wanna point that out. Yeah. Yeah. 1634 00:58:03,230 --> 00:58:04,670 And this is something that I believe they 1635 00:58:04,670 --> 00:58:06,670 were going to, to do in the event 1636 00:58:06,670 --> 00:58:08,829 of attack. Something I didn't anticipate is how 1637 00:58:08,829 --> 00:58:11,469 brazenly they went after civilian areas. Mhmm. And 1638 00:58:11,469 --> 00:58:13,949 those images on the first day of, like, 1639 00:58:13,949 --> 00:58:16,510 a dead toddler covered in ashes on the 1640 00:58:16,510 --> 00:58:19,015 street and, you know, a woman a mother 1641 00:58:19,015 --> 00:58:21,114 trapped under the rubble with her children, 1642 00:58:22,215 --> 00:58:25,094 that radicalized the Iranian population. And in fact, 1643 00:58:25,094 --> 00:58:27,494 you know, the Israelis and their puppet, Shah, 1644 00:58:27,494 --> 00:58:28,635 the son of the Shah, 1645 00:58:29,335 --> 00:58:29,835 this, 1646 00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:31,180 you know, monumental, 1647 00:58:32,519 --> 00:58:33,019 loser, 1648 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,480 to be honest with you, came out giving 1649 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:40,360 multiple speeches calling for an Iranian revolution, and 1650 00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:42,619 the the the regime is collapsing. 1651 00:58:42,994 --> 00:58:45,474 It's collapsing. Each day, it was collapsing even 1652 00:58:45,474 --> 00:58:47,414 more than it collapsed the previous day, 1653 00:58:47,954 --> 00:58:50,035 and nobody in Iran even came out for 1654 00:58:50,035 --> 00:58:50,934 a single protest 1655 00:58:51,235 --> 00:58:54,434 in favor of, this scumbag who by the 1656 00:58:54,434 --> 00:58:56,375 way, even his father, 1657 00:58:56,989 --> 00:58:59,170 somebody that is that openly a collaborator, 1658 00:58:59,949 --> 00:59:01,630 even his father probably would have put him 1659 00:59:01,630 --> 00:59:03,889 in one of his infamous torture centers, 1660 00:59:04,510 --> 00:59:06,589 for behaving in the way that he has 1661 00:59:06,589 --> 00:59:07,089 behaved 1662 00:59:07,469 --> 00:59:09,010 as a as a side note. 1663 00:59:10,034 --> 00:59:12,755 But they they tried this, but the Iranian 1664 00:59:12,755 --> 00:59:14,614 people stood behind their government 1665 00:59:14,914 --> 00:59:16,934 because of the way that they were attacked, 1666 00:59:16,994 --> 00:59:19,954 even people that hate their government with a 1667 00:59:19,954 --> 00:59:21,734 passion. Many of them flipped 1668 00:59:22,114 --> 00:59:24,214 because of the way that their civilian population 1669 00:59:24,355 --> 00:59:25,014 was attacked. 1670 00:59:25,369 --> 00:59:27,309 Iran, to everyone's surprise, 1671 00:59:27,610 --> 00:59:29,289 got back on its feet, got its air 1672 00:59:29,289 --> 00:59:32,329 defenses back online, replaced its generals, and launched 1673 00:59:32,329 --> 00:59:35,449 a devastating missile attack in the central in 1674 00:59:35,449 --> 00:59:38,489 Central Tel Aviv, which I was shocked watching 1675 00:59:38,489 --> 00:59:39,949 it live on the Mayadeen, 1676 00:59:40,625 --> 00:59:41,525 TV myself. 1677 00:59:42,304 --> 00:59:44,545 Within fifteen hours, they did all of this. 1678 00:59:44,545 --> 00:59:46,385 Mhmm. And the Israelis, I think, were taken 1679 00:59:46,385 --> 00:59:48,625 back. It was just missile wave after missile 1680 00:59:48,625 --> 00:59:50,724 wave after missile wave. And suddenly, 1681 00:59:51,105 --> 00:59:53,105 the streets of Tel Aviv looked like the 1682 00:59:53,105 --> 00:59:55,510 streets of Gaza. And Netanyahu came out. We're 1683 00:59:55,510 --> 00:59:56,789 not gonna allow this to be a war 1684 00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:58,230 of attrition. We're not gonna allow this to 1685 00:59:58,230 --> 00:59:59,909 be a war of attrition. The United States 1686 00:59:59,909 --> 01:00:00,650 gets involved 1687 01:00:01,190 --> 01:00:03,829 very quickly, and then they've wound this down. 1688 01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:06,170 In my opinion, this is not the end. 1689 01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:07,994 This is not the end at all. 1690 01:00:08,555 --> 01:00:11,215 This will definitely flare up again. The ceasefire 1691 01:00:11,434 --> 01:00:11,934 agreement, 1692 01:00:12,394 --> 01:00:14,394 it wasn't an agreement. It was just both 1693 01:00:14,394 --> 01:00:16,175 sides just decided to stop 1694 01:00:16,474 --> 01:00:18,015 because I'm not saying so. 1695 01:00:18,315 --> 01:00:20,974 Mhmm. There's no actual written agreement. 1696 01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:22,800 Got three things I wanna ask you then 1697 01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,059 before we go really quickly. So the the 1698 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,579 what's your thought on the ceasefire? 1699 01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,519 From from my research, it seems that the 1700 01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:31,360 statement was made by Trump, and he either 1701 01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,280 was under the impression that somehow that was 1702 01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:35,119 given to the Iranians or he didn't care 1703 01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:36,795 that it wasn't, and then nobody even knew 1704 01:00:36,795 --> 01:00:37,914 about it, but they all kind of just 1705 01:00:37,914 --> 01:00:39,835 agreed, like you're saying? Is that kinda what 1706 01:00:39,835 --> 01:00:40,335 happened? 1707 01:00:40,714 --> 01:00:42,635 That's that's the impression that I've been given 1708 01:00:42,635 --> 01:00:43,695 as well. Oh, interesting. 1709 01:00:44,315 --> 01:00:45,914 It's just a weird thing to happen. It's 1710 01:00:45,914 --> 01:00:47,034 just, you know, what do you think about 1711 01:00:47,034 --> 01:00:48,474 Trump? Do you think but I find it 1712 01:00:48,474 --> 01:00:50,315 a weird way he he did that. Like, 1713 01:00:50,315 --> 01:00:52,099 that to me gives me the feeling that 1714 01:00:52,099 --> 01:00:53,460 he is being played in some way. What 1715 01:00:53,460 --> 01:00:54,340 do you do why do you think about 1716 01:00:54,340 --> 01:00:56,260 that? I feel like it it it is 1717 01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:58,260 that. I think the Israelis are the ones 1718 01:00:58,260 --> 01:00:58,660 that, 1719 01:00:59,219 --> 01:01:01,380 organize this because they wanted a ceasefire very 1720 01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:03,640 desperately. You could see that their air defenses 1721 01:01:03,700 --> 01:01:04,440 were collapsing, 1722 01:01:04,864 --> 01:01:07,105 that Iran only had to fight fire five 1723 01:01:07,105 --> 01:01:09,025 missiles to hit the targets that they wanted 1724 01:01:09,025 --> 01:01:11,505 to, towards the latter end of the twelve 1725 01:01:11,505 --> 01:01:12,005 days. 1726 01:01:12,625 --> 01:01:14,545 At the start, Iran had to fire, like, 1727 01:01:14,545 --> 01:01:16,464 200 missiles, you know, to hit all of 1728 01:01:16,464 --> 01:01:18,140 their targets. You know? In one batch, I 1729 01:01:18,140 --> 01:01:20,880 think they fired 50 and another a 150 1730 01:01:20,940 --> 01:01:22,780 on the first day. You know? And and 1731 01:01:22,780 --> 01:01:24,059 lots of them got caught by the air 1732 01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:26,400 defenses. But after a while of just pounding 1733 01:01:26,460 --> 01:01:28,000 away, those air defense systems 1734 01:01:28,539 --> 01:01:29,440 were essentially 1735 01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:31,920 null and void for smaller attacks. 1736 01:01:32,220 --> 01:01:34,545 Mhmm. So the Israelis wanted to end it. 1737 01:01:34,684 --> 01:01:36,045 And I think they just used Trump to 1738 01:01:36,045 --> 01:01:37,724 end it because they wanted to get out 1739 01:01:37,724 --> 01:01:39,585 of it. I think they wanted to experiment 1740 01:01:39,724 --> 01:01:41,565 to see what would happen if The US 1741 01:01:41,565 --> 01:01:43,184 attacked the nuclear facilities. 1742 01:01:43,565 --> 01:01:45,680 Evidently, I think at this point, and I 1743 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:47,760 could be wrong, some new information could come 1744 01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:48,739 out which completely, 1745 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:50,660 debunks this. 1746 01:01:51,039 --> 01:01:52,720 But I think the whole idea of the 1747 01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,280 obliteration of the nuclear sites is utter nonsense. 1748 01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:58,239 I don't think there the Natanz facility seems 1749 01:01:58,239 --> 01:02:00,400 to have been very badly damaged before Doh, 1750 01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,214 I don't think so. Some of the above 1751 01:02:02,214 --> 01:02:05,094 ground facilities were definitely taken out, but it's 1752 01:02:05,094 --> 01:02:08,614 something Iran can recover from. So satellite imagery 1753 01:02:08,614 --> 01:02:10,054 that show that. I mean, they're they've been 1754 01:02:10,054 --> 01:02:11,655 caught, as far as I'm concerned, lying about 1755 01:02:11,655 --> 01:02:14,315 the the the totality of it. Yeah. Exactly. 1756 01:02:14,375 --> 01:02:15,114 And and, 1757 01:02:15,420 --> 01:02:17,179 essentially, what they've done is they've actually, you 1758 01:02:17,179 --> 01:02:19,260 know, forced Iran into a position where now 1759 01:02:19,260 --> 01:02:21,579 it will be more it will accelerate its 1760 01:02:21,579 --> 01:02:23,760 pace at least in terms of enrichment, 1761 01:02:24,139 --> 01:02:26,059 if not actually getting a nuclear weapon. I 1762 01:02:26,059 --> 01:02:27,659 think that's what Israel wanted from it, to 1763 01:02:27,659 --> 01:02:28,239 be honest. 1764 01:02:28,684 --> 01:02:30,125 Maybe that that that could have been the 1765 01:02:30,125 --> 01:02:32,684 case. I think that, like, they they they're 1766 01:02:32,844 --> 01:02:34,144 part of this was experimental. 1767 01:02:34,764 --> 01:02:37,164 Part of this was they, you know, they 1768 01:02:37,164 --> 01:02:39,405 tried a certain attack and it failed. Mhmm. 1769 01:02:39,485 --> 01:02:41,485 Their missions failed. All of their missions failed. 1770 01:02:41,485 --> 01:02:43,599 They didn't achieve anything, but they still are 1771 01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,519 fixated on regime change, and they are going 1772 01:02:45,519 --> 01:02:48,239 to continue to pursue regime change. And we 1773 01:02:48,239 --> 01:02:49,940 would be naive to think otherwise. 1774 01:02:51,199 --> 01:02:53,119 And, I don't think it's a real you 1775 01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:55,280 know, I I I cannot see it being 1776 01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:56,340 a lasting ceasefire, 1777 01:02:56,675 --> 01:02:59,234 whether it disintegrates in a few days, in 1778 01:02:59,234 --> 01:03:00,775 a few months, or in a year. 1779 01:03:01,954 --> 01:03:03,155 You know, at the end of the day, 1780 01:03:03,155 --> 01:03:05,394 this is not a real agreement. It's just 1781 01:03:05,394 --> 01:03:06,994 not. And I don't think this can hold 1782 01:03:06,994 --> 01:03:09,155 for long personally. I think that soon you're 1783 01:03:09,155 --> 01:03:11,960 gonna seal, see more air strikes in Tehran 1784 01:03:12,099 --> 01:03:14,119 and more missile strikes in Tel Aviv, 1785 01:03:14,820 --> 01:03:16,579 and and that's going to be the way 1786 01:03:16,579 --> 01:03:17,480 that this goes. 1787 01:03:18,179 --> 01:03:20,099 But one thing I I would say, and 1788 01:03:20,099 --> 01:03:22,659 and I wanted to note this before we 1789 01:03:22,659 --> 01:03:25,525 end, is that this has been the complete 1790 01:03:25,525 --> 01:03:28,805 disintegration of the international order post post World 1791 01:03:28,805 --> 01:03:30,184 War two in the United Nations. 1792 01:03:30,644 --> 01:03:32,425 You you and the viewers 1793 01:03:32,724 --> 01:03:34,724 of this program will probably remember that in 1794 01:03:34,724 --> 01:03:35,945 02/2003, 1795 01:03:36,325 --> 01:03:38,744 the secretary general of the United Nations, 1796 01:03:39,130 --> 01:03:39,630 Kofi 1797 01:03:40,250 --> 01:03:42,650 Annan, came out and accused The United States 1798 01:03:42,650 --> 01:03:45,309 of violating the UN Charter for attacking Iraq. 1799 01:03:45,690 --> 01:03:46,909 Now at that time, 1800 01:03:47,210 --> 01:03:48,829 the UN Security Council 1801 01:03:49,210 --> 01:03:50,510 had previously voted 1802 01:03:50,809 --> 01:03:51,690 on a, 1803 01:03:52,170 --> 01:03:52,670 resolution 1804 01:03:53,050 --> 01:03:56,945 condemning condemning Iraq, but The United States failed 1805 01:03:56,945 --> 01:03:58,324 to get the second resolution, 1806 01:03:58,785 --> 01:04:01,265 which authorized the use of, 1807 01:04:01,744 --> 01:04:05,204 of force against Iraq. Therefore, it was illegal. 1808 01:04:05,585 --> 01:04:07,824 And the secretary general of the United Nations 1809 01:04:07,824 --> 01:04:09,840 said that The United States violated 1810 01:04:10,219 --> 01:04:12,699 the UN charter. There was at least some 1811 01:04:12,699 --> 01:04:15,099 opposition. The protests in the street against the 1812 01:04:15,099 --> 01:04:17,340 Iraq War were some of the biggest anti 1813 01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:20,320 war protests in human history. Right. This time, 1814 01:04:20,555 --> 01:04:23,835 there was no, you know, years of, weapons 1815 01:04:23,835 --> 01:04:26,235 of mass destruction and chemical weapons that we 1816 01:04:26,235 --> 01:04:28,715 gave to them, but, hey. Let's ignore the 1817 01:04:28,715 --> 01:04:30,095 fact that we gave them the weapons. 1818 01:04:31,355 --> 01:04:34,500 And there's this propaganda campaign didn't exist. The 1819 01:04:34,500 --> 01:04:36,500 public opposition, there were maybe a few 100 1820 01:04:36,500 --> 01:04:39,239 people protesting in Washington DC when it happened. 1821 01:04:39,460 --> 01:04:41,239 The United States and Israel 1822 01:04:41,539 --> 01:04:42,360 both attacked 1823 01:04:42,820 --> 01:04:46,039 Iran, a sovereign country, violating the UN Charter, 1824 01:04:46,099 --> 01:04:47,000 both of them. 1825 01:04:47,474 --> 01:04:51,394 And what did Antonio Guterres say? He expressed 1826 01:04:51,394 --> 01:04:51,894 concern, 1827 01:04:52,355 --> 01:04:53,315 and he urged, 1828 01:04:54,515 --> 01:04:55,175 de escalation, 1829 01:04:55,715 --> 01:04:58,934 and he condemned all sides equally. His statement 1830 01:04:58,994 --> 01:05:00,295 against Iran's retaliatory 1831 01:05:00,914 --> 01:05:02,454 strike against the 1832 01:05:04,010 --> 01:05:04,909 US CENTCOM, 1833 01:05:05,530 --> 01:05:06,429 in Al Ubaid, 1834 01:05:07,130 --> 01:05:08,250 airport in, 1835 01:05:09,289 --> 01:05:10,750 airbase in in Qatar, 1836 01:05:11,210 --> 01:05:13,469 was more strong than the Israeli 1837 01:05:14,170 --> 01:05:17,244 attack and The US attack on Iran. The 1838 01:05:17,244 --> 01:05:17,744 IAEA 1839 01:05:18,284 --> 01:05:20,764 had it basically has been captured at this 1840 01:05:20,764 --> 01:05:23,244 point by the Israelis and the Americans Right. 1841 01:05:23,284 --> 01:05:25,585 And it does their bidding. The whole international 1842 01:05:25,885 --> 01:05:29,025 order is gone. There's no there's no grassroots 1843 01:05:29,820 --> 01:05:31,360 anti war movement anymore. 1844 01:05:31,820 --> 01:05:33,900 The the United Nations is null and void. 1845 01:05:33,900 --> 01:05:36,539 Its charter is null and void. International law 1846 01:05:36,539 --> 01:05:39,099 doesn't matter anymore. None of these countries stood 1847 01:05:39,099 --> 01:05:40,940 up and went, wait. This is a violation 1848 01:05:40,940 --> 01:05:43,599 of the UN charter. Oh, wait. International law. 1849 01:05:43,900 --> 01:05:45,360 We're in the law of the jungle. 1850 01:05:45,714 --> 01:05:47,954 Right. That's that's where we're at. And this 1851 01:05:47,954 --> 01:05:49,795 is the result of what happened in Gaza 1852 01:05:49,795 --> 01:05:50,694 where we normalize, 1853 01:05:51,635 --> 01:05:54,514 slaughtering hundreds of people, civilians every single day, 1854 01:05:54,514 --> 01:05:56,534 and and nobody stands up against it. 1855 01:05:57,074 --> 01:05:59,815 We normalize genocide. We normalize mass starvation 1856 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,639 and all the human rights reports and all 1857 01:06:02,639 --> 01:06:05,380 of the UN reports and the ICJ ruling, 1858 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:06,980 preliminary ruling 1859 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:08,659 and the ICC warrants. 1860 01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:10,900 You know, the wrong statute is dead. 1861 01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:12,659 The ICC is dead. 1862 01:06:13,025 --> 01:06:15,105 The all the organs of the United Nations 1863 01:06:15,105 --> 01:06:17,025 are essentially null and void and dead. The 1864 01:06:17,025 --> 01:06:20,224 only influence that these, you know, international bodies 1865 01:06:20,224 --> 01:06:22,625 have is on public opinion. That's it. Right. 1866 01:06:22,625 --> 01:06:24,625 They don't have an influence on anything else. 1867 01:06:24,625 --> 01:06:26,239 So what Israel and The United States have 1868 01:06:26,239 --> 01:06:28,000 done is put the final nails in the 1869 01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,719 coffin of international law and the post World 1870 01:06:30,719 --> 01:06:32,739 War two order, which was created 1871 01:06:33,359 --> 01:06:33,859 to 1872 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:36,019 stop in ideally, 1873 01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,184 to stop the sort of atrocities 1874 01:06:38,804 --> 01:06:40,804 that we saw during the second World War 1875 01:06:40,804 --> 01:06:43,204 committed by all sides, but especially by the 1876 01:06:43,204 --> 01:06:43,704 Nazis. 1877 01:06:44,324 --> 01:06:46,425 So, essentially, what Israel has done, 1878 01:06:47,045 --> 01:06:48,344 Israel has removed 1879 01:06:49,045 --> 01:06:50,264 all of the safeguards 1880 01:06:50,644 --> 01:06:52,264 put to put together 1881 01:06:53,340 --> 01:06:54,079 by the 1882 01:06:54,460 --> 01:06:56,480 world to prevent the resurgence 1883 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:58,480 of Nazi 1884 01:06:58,860 --> 01:06:59,680 war crimes. 1885 01:07:00,220 --> 01:07:01,680 That's what Israel has done. 1886 01:07:02,780 --> 01:07:04,320 That's what Israel has done. 1887 01:07:04,619 --> 01:07:07,119 And that that's just the truth. Yeah. 1888 01:07:07,635 --> 01:07:09,255 It is. I mean, it's it's so 1889 01:07:10,034 --> 01:07:10,534 obvious 1890 01:07:10,835 --> 01:07:12,434 that this has been something that's been building 1891 01:07:12,434 --> 01:07:13,635 for a long time. And to your point 1892 01:07:13,635 --> 01:07:14,534 about the propaganda, 1893 01:07:14,835 --> 01:07:16,195 I mean, I think it has sort of 1894 01:07:16,195 --> 01:07:17,795 been there. We saw a really obvious ramp 1895 01:07:17,795 --> 01:07:19,815 up and, like, a focal point of propaganda 1896 01:07:19,875 --> 01:07:22,195 around WMDs. But as you cover, as we 1897 01:07:22,195 --> 01:07:24,960 know, the the the building of propaganda around 1898 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:26,640 going after Iran has been going on for 1899 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,480 decades. You know? And so this is interesting 1900 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,559 to see this sort of begin, if you 1901 01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:31,680 wanna say that. I mean, I think I 1902 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,119 do think this is the beginning of where 1903 01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:34,719 this goes in this kind of final part 1904 01:07:34,719 --> 01:07:36,079 of what they're trying to achieve. But I 1905 01:07:36,079 --> 01:07:38,079 think what you've highlighted today and the information, 1906 01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:39,574 I mean, this, it does give me hope 1907 01:07:39,574 --> 01:07:41,094 again that that, you know, you see this. 1908 01:07:41,094 --> 01:07:42,694 And I do I do think a lot 1909 01:07:42,694 --> 01:07:44,694 of other people see these things, many people 1910 01:07:44,694 --> 01:07:46,295 for the very first time. And I do 1911 01:07:46,295 --> 01:07:47,974 think that that is a hopeful moment. And 1912 01:07:47,974 --> 01:07:49,275 even the point about, like, 1913 01:07:49,574 --> 01:07:53,194 the international apparatus, the different mechanisms only essentially, 1914 01:07:53,655 --> 01:07:54,300 you know, 1915 01:07:54,619 --> 01:07:56,780 influencing public opinion. I mean, what that shows 1916 01:07:56,780 --> 01:07:59,420 me is everyone out there listening, the world, 1917 01:07:59,420 --> 01:08:01,519 you know, the the it requires 1918 01:08:02,059 --> 01:08:02,880 your involvement. 1919 01:08:03,260 --> 01:08:04,860 Right? This is where we need to step 1920 01:08:04,860 --> 01:08:06,619 in as the individuals and do whatever we 1921 01:08:06,619 --> 01:08:08,619 think in our personal lives and our inner 1922 01:08:08,619 --> 01:08:11,085 circles to try to point these things out, 1923 01:08:11,085 --> 01:08:13,244 call out these truths, and see this, you 1924 01:08:13,244 --> 01:08:15,405 know, something start to begin in that direction 1925 01:08:15,405 --> 01:08:17,405 because that's why that's the reality. Because if 1926 01:08:17,405 --> 01:08:20,284 we're not pushing our local power structures to 1927 01:08:20,284 --> 01:08:21,484 do what we want or, you know, the 1928 01:08:21,484 --> 01:08:23,725 the different ways we at least pretend represent 1929 01:08:23,725 --> 01:08:25,739 the government's work. And we have lost. We 1930 01:08:25,739 --> 01:08:27,420 are we are failing our duty from that 1931 01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:29,180 perspective as well. But I think that what 1932 01:08:29,340 --> 01:08:31,420 one bigger thing we can see is, you 1933 01:08:31,420 --> 01:08:33,579 know, a lot larger thing happening behind all 1934 01:08:33,579 --> 01:08:35,420 of this. I think you very clearly highlighted 1935 01:08:35,420 --> 01:08:37,425 all the manipulations through these things, but I 1936 01:08:37,425 --> 01:08:40,005 think there's a bigger dynamic happening. Like, that 1937 01:08:40,145 --> 01:08:42,225 all of this are are different moving parts 1938 01:08:42,225 --> 01:08:44,064 to something larger toward the end. And I 1939 01:08:44,064 --> 01:08:45,425 think an example of that to end, and 1940 01:08:45,425 --> 01:08:46,864 free feel free to comment on this on 1941 01:08:46,864 --> 01:08:48,545 the way out, is the the foreknowledge of 1942 01:08:48,545 --> 01:08:50,064 all this. You know, the warning of Iran 1943 01:08:50,064 --> 01:08:52,050 that appeared to be there, which we've seen 1944 01:08:52,050 --> 01:08:53,729 in the past. Right? The back channels around 1945 01:08:53,729 --> 01:08:55,409 bombing the Iraq base in in The US, 1946 01:08:55,409 --> 01:08:57,510 but, you know, that that was discussed beforehand. 1947 01:08:57,569 --> 01:08:58,929 You know, in this case, I think it's 1948 01:08:58,929 --> 01:09:00,689 been clearly shown that there was foreknowledge. You 1949 01:09:00,689 --> 01:09:02,609 know, if somebody had warned the b two 1950 01:09:02,609 --> 01:09:04,545 bombers were publicly discussed, so it's not like 1951 01:09:04,545 --> 01:09:06,465 Iran didn't see it coming. You know? And 1952 01:09:06,465 --> 01:09:09,024 then the the in reverse where Iran I 1953 01:09:09,024 --> 01:09:10,704 mean, Trump pulled people away from Iraq. The 1954 01:09:10,704 --> 01:09:12,704 Qatar base was basically removed in regard to 1955 01:09:12,704 --> 01:09:15,104 people and important assets, and then they bombed. 1956 01:09:15,104 --> 01:09:16,545 Right? And so, clearly, it was meant to 1957 01:09:16,545 --> 01:09:18,710 be so to me, that's sort of a 1958 01:09:18,710 --> 01:09:20,550 coordination. And not not to say necessarily all 1959 01:09:20,550 --> 01:09:21,590 of them are on the same side, which 1960 01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:23,909 we shouldn't care. We should consider that. Like 1961 01:09:23,909 --> 01:09:26,229 in the COVID nineteen dynamic where we saw 1962 01:09:26,229 --> 01:09:28,010 them all kind of lockstep in the agenda. 1963 01:09:28,070 --> 01:09:29,750 My simple point is that we make sure 1964 01:09:29,750 --> 01:09:31,510 we're all out there seeing the parts we 1965 01:09:31,510 --> 01:09:33,694 we discussed today, but also where else it 1966 01:09:33,694 --> 01:09:35,694 could be going. The bigger moving parts of 1967 01:09:35,694 --> 01:09:38,655 sort of the globalist, Zionist, technocratic kind of 1968 01:09:38,655 --> 01:09:40,414 awakening that we're seeing are really just the 1969 01:09:40,414 --> 01:09:42,255 mask coming off and where that might be 1970 01:09:42,255 --> 01:09:44,335 going. You know? So what you know, the 1971 01:09:44,335 --> 01:09:47,000 the possible endgame to what all this might 1972 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:48,680 lead to. You know? But thank you again 1973 01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:50,680 for joining us and and updating us because 1974 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:51,800 it really you have such a wealth of 1975 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:53,720 knowledge on this, Robert. And, I think it's 1976 01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:55,479 important people to check out your work, whether 1977 01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:57,479 that's on Last American Vagabond or Mint Press 1978 01:09:57,479 --> 01:09:59,375 News, wherever it may be today. And I 1979 01:09:59,375 --> 01:10:00,494 will say to on the way out, then 1980 01:10:00,494 --> 01:10:01,854 I'll let you say anything you'd like to 1981 01:10:01,854 --> 01:10:03,534 on the way out as well, that more 1982 01:10:03,534 --> 01:10:05,454 will be coming through TLAB from Robert. So 1983 01:10:05,454 --> 01:10:06,975 look forward to that. So thanks for being 1984 01:10:06,975 --> 01:10:08,494 here again, brother. Anything else you wanna leave 1985 01:10:08,494 --> 01:10:09,395 us with? Go ahead. 1986 01:10:09,695 --> 01:10:11,850 No. I'd just say, yeah, we have to 1987 01:10:12,010 --> 01:10:13,770 wait and watch how things develop. 1988 01:10:14,170 --> 01:10:16,750 It's very hard to predict things precisely, but, 1989 01:10:17,530 --> 01:10:20,270 yeah, you know, we might be surprised by, 1990 01:10:20,970 --> 01:10:23,229 the public and their reactions in the future. 1991 01:10:23,689 --> 01:10:25,369 But right now, you know, I think, 1992 01:10:26,494 --> 01:10:28,994 there has been a a lack of reaction 1993 01:10:29,055 --> 01:10:30,755 to this, which has been quite shocking. 1994 01:10:31,055 --> 01:10:33,314 But, thank you for having me on, and, 1995 01:10:33,935 --> 01:10:35,875 as always, it's been a pleasure. 1996 01:10:36,255 --> 01:10:37,935 Thanks, brother. And we'll we'll be talking again 1997 01:10:37,935 --> 01:10:40,194 soon. So everybody out there, as always, question 1998 01:10:40,414 --> 01:10:42,140 everything. Come to your own 1999 01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:43,500 conclusions. Stay vigilant.