Welcome to the last American Vagabond. Joining me
again today is Derrick Rose to discuss just
whatever the hell is going on in the
world today. We haven't talked in a minute.
There's so much, you know, really some very
clear developments and stuff that we've been covering
pretty extensively that we just wanted to connect
on. I wanted to get his thoughts on
certain things like Palantir, detachment two zero one,
possibly the war is going on, but just
to connect in general to kinda just touch
base and see, you know, how he's perceiving
some of the different events, what's going on
in Iran, foreign policy. So, Derek, how are
you today? I'm doing great, brother. Thanks for
having me back.
Yep. Always a pleasure, my friend. So I
think what's a good place to start in
general is, obviously, the Palantir conversation is an
interesting development. You know? We there's it's not
it's not I mean, obviously, part of it
is sort of like, you know, we tried
to warn everybody kind of a moment, but
at the same time, it's not so much
about, you know it it's about highlighting that
it's a story that has clearly developed, you
know, in a lot of ways like a
lot of us were highlighting, but then the
way it's been dealt with, I find really
revealing. And I just wanna your thoughts on
that, like, what the way that you know?
Because this this became, like, a legitimate mainstream
story. Like, exactly what we were trying to
highlight, what you've been highlighting for a long
time, and not just the abstract, like, technocracy
discussion, but specifically how Palantir played a role,
Peter Thiel, the connection to Trump's administration.
And, you know, the the we talked about
the black pill purity test point before the
selection, how people responded to that. But then
this worked its way into, like, legitimate, like,
on the front page kind of conversation and
then the way the mainstream alternative media responded
to it. So, you you know, what are
your kind of feelings about that? And start
where you're wanting that. You can talk about
Palantir, but I wanna get into how you
feel about the way people responded to it
becoming
so obvious.
Yeah. It's been interesting to see that for
one, And, of course, the the main way
that everybody or a lot of people, especially
in the kind of mainstream world, were learning
about it was from The New York Times
report
about the Gotham program that local police are
using as well as,
the sort of Trump executive order, which I
know we both reported on, individually,
which was meant to
create less separation between federal agencies.
And I've been kind of
couching that development in the terms of this
is part of the post September
report that said, well, we need to make
sure these agencies can communicate with each other
because according to the official version of events,
the reason the nine eleven attacks happen is
because, well, the FBI had some information, the
CIA had some information, but legally, they're not
allowed to speak and communicate. So we need
to tear down those walls and make sure
that we can have more, you know, streamlined
conversation.
And so Trump's executive order,
was about that. It was about separating these
organizations, these government agencies, which are kind of
siloed in their own,
areas and making it more streamlined, making so
that the data could come, you know, across
different agencies. And that's the role that Palantir
is helping with. So that was kinda like
the mainstream version of events. Obviously, they didn't
really put it in the deeper context. But
still, even that, that got a lot of
headlines. And the first reaction that I saw,
particularly from MAGA,
was to deny it. You know? Oh, this
is New York Times. This is just coming
from some anonymous sources or what you know,
they did whatever they could just sort of
downplay it. And to me, it's like and
I'm sure you and others, it's like, well,
this is what we've been saying, and and
there's so much more. So that was interesting,
but not surprising to see MAGA trying to
just kinda deflect and say, no. No. No.
This isn't you know, this is just mainstream
garbage or it's just left wing, propaganda. In
fact, they actually talk about
window.
Yeah. Exactly. And I Here again, you know,
it became it became obvious that you couldn't
deny it, that this was Mhmm. A fact.
Right? So then the goalpost kinda switched. And
you see I talked about this in my
show last night. Like, Alex Jones and for
wars,
did a, you know, whole thing trying to
say, well,
two things. One thing, I saw them in
general trying to downplay the role that Palantir
plays and just be like, well, we've all
known about Palantir. I don't know why people
are making a big deal.
But I also saw on m four wars,
they they put out an article. One one
of the few articles they they wrote about
Bilderberg this year, obviously, Peter Thiel and Alex
Karp, steering committee members of the Bilderberg group
as well as cofounders of Palantir.
That conversation's pretty much been, you know, devoid
and and just absent and, MAGA and kind
of the right leaning so called independent media,
including Infowars.
And I've seen them, particularly Alex Jones, trying
to say that the peep the only people
who are really upset about this are the
left leaning mainstream media and,
George Soros
and the big tech companies that are mad
that they're not getting the contracts that Palantir
is getting. So he just tried to totally
downplay. Like, this is just some jealous companies
and leftist. This isn't anything real to worry
about.
And and to point out that he made
the clear point that which is just flatly
incorrect, that it was they were angry because
they were using it just to to
hold the government accountable
despite the fact that it was exactly the
opposite of this pile of information was personal
data.
And even if it was, which I'm sure
it's all of the data, that's not how
it's being applied. It's not some guard dog,
you know, watchdog against what the government's doing.
So, to argue it was just the left
thing, and that was probably the most embarrassing
of all the kind of side steps because
it was just simply incorrect. And then that
went away as well. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. And then not only that, but
it's such a trip to what? Not surprising,
like I said, I'm not surprised anymore by
the people I see who, in my mind,
are selling out principle and selling out what
they claim to believe in the past. But,
yeah, to try to downplay it and say,
well, it's not as bad as people claim.
Or the other thing you're saying, there's also
q and on types out there saying,
this is actually a trap that has been
set for the deep state. And Palantir is
not being used to spy on the people,
but it's used to spy on the government.
And they're slowly gathering up all the data
they need, and then soon, the tribunals and
all that same old stuff people are still
trying to bring back. How long have that
been now? We're we're going on like Yeah.
Twenty years. How old is that too big?
Crazy.
And then, of course, there's the part of
me there's the part of me that's like,
okay. Well, more people are talking about Palantir.
You and I and Whitney and James and
others have been talking about this for for
years now. And, okay, it's probably a positive
development that Palantir is trending that, you know,
I was getting invited to go on Jimmy
Dore's show to talk about Palantir and some
other big platforms that are finally ready to
talk about it and almost to the point
of, like, saturation where it's, like, it's everywhere.
And that sometimes naturally brings up skepticism. I've
seen some people in in the in the
online chatter saying,
you know, we should be skeptical of why
they're allowing us to talk about this now.
Could it be a distraction for something else?
Or is it just that Palantir is kinda
being offered up and sort of sacrificed? Well,
they know about Palantir, so let's just throw
them out there, and then, you know, some
other company is gonna become more important. Obviously,
we don't know any of those things just
yet. It'll time might, you know, make that
more clear to us.
But even though we are seeing lots of
people talk about Palantir where they weren't before,
I still think that the company and the
role they're playing
is absolutely something we should be paying attention
to because the articles I wrote for TLAB
before the election,
including,
election twenty twenty four, Zionist technocrats versus Zionist
technocrats,
I pointed out and showed all these things
and showed how there was pretty pretty clear
that Peter Thiel was gonna have a major
influence and Palantir would have a major influence,
not only because of JD Vance but because
of Trump's history with Peter
Thiel. And then, of course, as soon as
the picks started to come in, I wrote
the article, Meet the Peter Thiel acolytes in
Trump's second administration. Yeah. There's the one prior
to the election that I took a lot
of flack for and people wanted to ignore.
And then that one, meet the Peter Thiel
acolytes, and that was I think I identified
eight to 10 of those. And then the
one after that, meet welcome to the Palantir
world order, we found up to, like, 15
to 20 people who were all related to,
Palantir, Peter Thiel, you know, worked for his
companies or worked for Palantir directly and working
with Doge and and all this sort of
thing. So none of this is surprising. In
fact, this is what's been most disappointing to
me is, okay, it's being talked about in
the mainstream. Great. We expect the mainstream to
do a shallow job, and that's what they
did. But the independent media,
the alleged independent media, it's like, okay, I'm
glad more people are talking about it. And,
thankfully, some people are ready to have the
deeper discussion. But the folks like Alex Jones
and others in the MAGA
media are doing their best to just downplay
it. So I actually did a search. I
went to, Infowars yesterday and searched Bilderberg 2025,
searched Peter Thiel, just kinda to see what
has been the most recent reporting,
from Alex Jones. Again, this is the guy
who used to hold protests at the Bilderberg
group and go bullhorn them, and rightfully so,
and call out this stuff. And now there's
literally no articles on his,
on his website that draw that connection, that
distinction.
I'll give them credit. They put Dan Dix's
confrontation of Peter Thiel on their website, but
still, they had this kind of editor's note
on there that I mentioned that said, Alex
Jones has been calling out the surveillance state
for a long time and just did the
whole downplaying. Only George Soros and Google and
other companies are worried about just, you know,
did their best to kind of, like if
anybody started to think, well, wait. Isn't Peter
Thiel part of the Bilderberg group? And I
thought Alex Jones was against that. You know,
just trying to sort of circumvent anybody who
might question that narrative that it's not as
big a deal as people, are making it
out to be. So it's been disappointing that
people don't wanna go as deep as they
should.
Yeah. I agree. I also I I think
I've seen this, and this is not unique
to him or any, you know, one group,
but it's very common these days where, you
know, you'll make a lot of other suggestive
points or rather most of your coverage very
clearly drives people toward a certain mindset, but
then a tweet will go out about, you
know, this might be a false flag. Even
though everything else you've been saying points the
other direction, you know, then that gets pointed
to as I knew it. We were right.
You know? And it's like that's that's a
very common tactic. And it and it only
works on people that already choose to believe
in you regardless of the outcome, precedent, what
actually is being proven. And so that's what
I see that as, you know, as sort
of a way to get people to think
that's really what the you know, push it
to look at Dan Dix doing this. That
means we're on that side even though you've
done everything else you could to downplay that,
to hide that connection, to make Palantir a
leftist thing that's not actually doing what it's
doing. You know? That that's really important to
consider. Just trying to save
face. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Or I
think it's more about trying to cement this
ongoing narrative that somehow you're the one fighting
these things while you're really doing the best
job of cementing them, allowing people to ignore
the real problem. And I think that's the
biggest issue is people are it's the identity
politics, the woke left and right. It's the
cultural identity stuff. You know, it's it's everywhere.
I just wanna add to that just briefly.
I mean, obviously, it's relating to Palantir as
we're discussing here, but just in the kind
of broader terms of people who prior to
the election and I won't name all the
names I could name, but I will name
a couple names like Dave Smith, Luke Rakowski,
with Clint Russell over at Liberty Lockdown. There's
a few other people who have sizable platforms
and, you know, claim to be libertarian
or kind of beyond the left right paradigm
to some extent.
They're not willing to go on every topic,
but to some extent. Right? But prior to
the election, sure, they didn't necessarily I mean,
some of them did wholeheartedly endorse Trump and
said, you know, hey. It's gonna be better
than Kamala. Others sort of gritted their teeth
and said, yeah. I don't like him because
of this and that, but he's still the
better option. And others were even more subtle
where they didn't necessarily fully on endorse Trump,
but they definitely did a lot of airtime
dedicated to how stupid the Democrats are and
how, you know, dumb the left is. And
then kind of highlighting, well, Trump seems to
say the opposite, which to me is over
even more maybe nefarious because it's more subtle,
and the listener is just being shown these
very still kind of binary,
perspective of it. Now a lot of those
folks are like, hey. Well, of course, Trump's
a bad guy. You know, Iran war. This
is all bad news and technocracy and all
the things I know we're gonna get into
further today.
It's like now they're ready to report on
that. And I see some people saying, Derek,
you know, get off your high horse or
quit stroking your ego. Because, you know, there's
some some level of just to be real,
like, on a human level of like, Yeah,
I told you so. We told you so.
And that doesn't give me any kind of
like, Oh, I'm patting myself on the back.
I can fact, I would love to be
wrong. I would love to be like sitting
here and be like, Dang. We're wrong. Then
they were they were right. Like, Trump is
actually
fighting the deep state and you know, maybe
I misunderstood. I misread the tea leaves or
whatever. But Doctor. Because we want positive outcomes,
outcomes, Derek. That's why. We we want a
positive outcome. We don't want to be right.
We know if we that's we'd rather be
wrong and have the right thing happen than
the other way around.
Exactly. So it's not even it's like, of
course, a part of me is like, alright.
Feels good that my analysis and, you know,
all of us, it's like, was accurate, and
that's one thing. But I think in a
bigger picture, it's not just about stroking our
egos or anything like that. It's for me,
what matters is that, like you said, we
genuinely do care about the future of humanity.
I care about the principles that I hold,
the principles of individual liberty, and it saddens
me and angers me to watch people,
who are influencers or, you know, claim to
be journalists
who use the influence that they have and
then whether willingly or just ignorantly because they
don't wanna listen to us because we're just
black pill, we're just negative, we're just doomers
when we were trying to say, look, both
sides are being funded by the same people.
Don't expect different results from Trump or Harris.
People didn't wanna hear it. And so it's
a little bit frustrating now after the fact
for everybody to be jumping on the bandwagon.
And and now they're sort of also, I
think, trying to rewrite a little bit of
history and act
like they were always, you know, calling this
stuff out, and they've always been about this.
And I didn't endorse Trump. Yeah. But you
sure spent a lot of time focused on
the other side and how dumb they are
and kind of subtly making this allude this
appearance that, well, this side's all dumb. And,
Hey, Trump did something good over here. And
completely ignoring all the warning signs. Doctor. It's
the same thing they call out in the
left in COVID nineteen. You know, partisanship has
a really difficult time with self reflection, I've
noticed. You know, like recognizing the same fault,
the same hypocrisy in themselves that they point
out on the other side. I think that's
part of the design, you know, and that's
it's a block. I mean, my biggest issue
with that general discussion is people that I've
talked to that I know
at least,
you know, wax intellectual about the two party
illusion, right, will talk about and acknowledge
the very clear deception, and then every day,
they play into it. And I don't mean
just, like, you know, theorizing. I mean, like,
playing into the illusory
the the false binary. You know? And that's
that's what gives me the most frustration. You
know? It's like, you know better, man. But,
you know Like, people who are now like,
well, now that we see what Trump's doing,
I'm gonna vote a full democrat. That'll show
the system. You know? I'm gonna go and
vote vote on the democrats in the midterm.
Do you did you take that seriously? We
don't have to get into who it was
unless you want to. But did you take
that seriously, or did you think that that
was sort of a like a joke? I
couldn't read it. I wasn't sure which way
because it felt real. And I was like,
that's a crazy thing to say right now.
I thought it was real. I know we're
talking about the same person, and we don't
need to get into, you know because and
I wanna say this. Like, there's some people
who I do think deserve to be called
out. That's why I mentioned Luke and Dave
and some of these other people. And that's,
of course, each to us. Each each selective
on our own preferences.
There's other people who maybe I give a
little bit of benefit of doubt or in
private conversations, I might say, yeah. So and
so is maybe kind of lost their way.
But this particular person is a journalist, is
a is a, you know, somebody who is
exactly what you were just describing, just called
out the left and the right, and then
kind of maybe joking, but it didn't seem
like a joke saying, well, I'm gonna, you
know, show them by voting straight Democrat in
the midterms and teach them a lesson or
something like that.
And to me, I'm just like, Oh, my
God. This is we're going to do the
same thing again in four years, aren't we?
We're going to watch the same thing happen
again. There's going to be some new
populist hero that will emerge on the left
or the right and promise to fix everything
bad that Trump did, and it's just gonna
keep going back and forth. That is definitely
one of the more frustrating things, whether or
not that particular person
was,
joking or being sarcastic.
There are people who will think that way.
There are absolute people who will think that
the best now maybe they won't go vote
full on Democrat because
and and even in that case, I don't
know what's better. I mean, what do you
think about this man? Because some people are
like, well, yeah, Trump did some bad things,
but,
I'm still gonna vote for Republicans in the
next thing. And and then that's obviously not
very principled. There doesn't make much sense. But
then to think
voting for the other side full on is
somehow gonna, you know, achieve your ends, like,
it just neither one of them seem to
be thinking too deeply about the outcomes.
Well, this is why Dave you know, like,
the last selection product, we it's more important
than ever to argue, you know, or at
least hope the you know, to give people
the tools to consider
why another path might be the right path.
And there's many we could talk about. We've
talked about many times. You know, and that's
why that's becoming more popular, and I think
why the whole system is feeling desperate and
vulnerable because people are finally asking these questions.
And just to put a point down it
since we branched it, we went we went
over it, we're talking about Kim Iverson. Correct?
That's the person we're referring to in that
tweet. And I I think she my gut
tells me that she was kind of joking,
but that's the point is I couldn't tell.
And the reason I thought it was so
relevant you know, because I do I do
also agree she does good work, and I
don't agree with everything, but she calls out,
but she you know, it's objective, like a
Glenn Greenwald who has clearly shown himself to
stand with principles when it comes to the
left right paradigm,
criticize everything else. We all will too. There's
plenty of things to question. But what's interesting
is what
this came out with, Jimmy Dore the last
time.
And like I said then, even if you
do even if they really mean that or
if you really mean that, the point is
there's there is a level of logic to
it. I disagree with it. But that like,
for example, Jimmy said, at the time, out
of all your arguments, this is the one
that I said, okay. Well, at least there's
some logic to it, that he's gonna vote,
for Republican, for Trump, because why is he
gonna reward the party that committed the genocide?
Because Trump, at that time, hadn't technically been
part of the genocide. Right? So he is
now, obviously. But so he that made sense
to me. Even though I disagree, I know
it's a trap, I still said, okay. At
least the logic is there. Everyone else, like,
she's gonna be worse is just frustrating. So
now it it's I almost felt like that
was her making a joke of that. Right?
Where now I'm just gonna vote the other
way. That I hope so. Her past record,
that's what I took from it. But, you
know, we should since we talked about the
NFL report, just point that out. Yeah. And
just in case this clip makes its way
to Kim, like, of course, I'm super grateful
for the things you've done for having me
on your show. And I know, Ryan, you've,
you've interviewed with her as well.
You know, so it's not I'm not trying
to just shit on
on on you, Kim, or or her or
her work or anything like that. But I
do think that is a big part of
the problem. And I know that when I've
spoken with her and other people, and I
get to the point of saying, like, look,
politics isn't gonna save us, you know, and
I have my own theories and ideas, and
I'm not claiming those are the only way
towards,
freedom. But I definitely feel like at this
point, you know, I'm a 40 year old
adult. I've watched this happen since I was
18. The first time I ever voted, I
voted for John Kerry. The only time I
ever voted because I was anti war against
George Bush. This is twenty two years ago.
Twenty years ago, you know, and, it didn't
take but one time of doing that to
realize like, oh my god, this is just
back and forth, back and forth. Right? So
when we see people who are clearly intelligent
and clearly informed and and,
you know, spend a lot of time doing
this work that we do as well. It's
just hard for me to to see how
people can keep playing in that trap. And
I understand what you're saying as well that,
okay, it makes some sense and some logic
within the two party paradigm of, like, well,
if this party is doing bad, I'm gonna,
you know, punish them by voting for the
other side. But I think that's also just
the fundamental flaws that like we're still playing
within their context of the predator classes game.
You know, it's like I've said this before.
They know how to handle us if we
protest,
if you march, if you rally, if you
go out and try to be violent. They
know how to handle that. They'll round you
up, they'll lock you up, they'll shut you
down, whatever. They know how to handle voting.
They'll just rig the elections as I think
most elections are actuals actually selections.
They'll continue to prop up puppets in front
of you. But what they don't know how
to handle is us removing our consent and
saying, alright. Well, then I'm not gonna play
anymore. And, you know, I did a video
about this after the election too that once
again,
the largest,
demographic across The United States was nonvoters. It
was Right. Even with, you know, them saying
this is a historic election and,
you know, more people did vote maybe than
previous years. But still, in the broader context,
that's not really much. There's still the vast
majority of the country who is not voting.
And that doesn't mean they're all kind of
on the same page as you or I
are on. But there at least, there there
may be some levels of apathy or they're
just dissatisfied with the choices, things like that.
That does give me some hope that maybe
more people could recognize that politics isn't the
answer. And then, well, how do we actually
take care of ourselves? That's a whole another
conversation that we've had before.
But to me, it's just like we if
we continue to see journalists and influencers and
podcast hosts and talking heads on the internet,
just keep pushing their audience in that direction.
I mean, this is why I've been calling
for some level of accountability,
not
in that sense of like, let's, you know,
let's round them all up and put them
to death or put them in, you know,
cast them out of society or something like
that. But, yes, I think it is important
to know
who was shilling for Trump and ignoring the
evidence that you and I and Whitney and
others could clearly see and sending their massive
audiences of hundreds of thousands or millions of
people to go vote for Trump. And Ian
Carroll, of course, is one of these people.
Him and I have gone back and forth
over that. And I told him these things
would happen before the election and here we
are. Now, he's like, Palantir, this and that.
It's like, come on, bro. I mean, did
you you got this you knew this ahead
of time. And I'm not gonna fault people
totally for wanting to believe or wanting to
have some level of hope, but we've said
before on this, show and on different Independent
Media Alliance panels that it's actually not. It's
a white pill to accept that politicians aren't
gonna come save you. It's not a black
pill. It's not doomer to just to kind
of step up and be an adult about
the situation and say, look, we can't trust
these people. I have to take care of
myself. Now, how do I step into that
space as an empowered person instead of being
like, Well, okay. They're not coming to save
us so I guess everything screwed.
That's the actual black pill. The people who
bought into that, that like, Well, if Trump's
not a hero, if QAnon's a cya, well
then, we're just you know, I heard this
before the election. Alright, Derek. I hear what
you're saying. Okay. Bilderberg Group, Palantir, Peter Thiel,
but I'm still gonna try with Trump. Because
if Trump isn't a hero and if he
doesn't win, it's gonna be full on communism.
It's gonna be full on totalitarianism.
So people put all their hope in, like,
this one person or this one movement.
And if that's not true, then everything's lost.
But in fact, no, nothing it's it it
yes, we have to accept that, but that
doesn't mean all is lost. It means that
the power is back in your hands. And
instead of outsourcing your freedom, you're in fight
for sovereignty, you have to take personal responsibility.
And I think that's scary for a lot
of people too.
Yeah. Most definitely. I mean, self responsibility is,
like, the most important tenant of any, you
know, whatever you wanna call it. This in
this self, you know, representative government or whatever
we feel we exist in, it's absolutely important
that we do that. You know? Because clearly,
they will
power structures will manufacture
situations as we all acknowledge, at least in
part of the other side or however you
wanna look at it. We all acknowledge it
exists
to create circumstances that drive you into the
places they need you to be. Now some
point in some part of the world, maybe
they think they're doing it for the right
reasons. It doesn't change the reality of what
we're discussing, you know, and that we have
to start con considering how that could be
played out or how they could be played
without knowing it. You know, it's just it
is self responsibility, but this whole system, it's
like it's creating this learned helplessness where, you
know, well, yeah, it like, maybe that'll be
in the future, but right now, it's just
so bad that we have to versus, you
know, one versus the other. You know, it's
engineered helplessness, and we and it's so obvious.
And I think Doctor. I'll get to that
self ownership later, Derek. At some point, I'll
do that. But right now, this is the
only way to fix things. So, I'll put
that offer in the future. Yeah. Maybe one
day, I'll get to that. But
this is what we have to do now.
And I just wanted to add to what
you're saying that I think it, again, I'll
try to empathize with people. If we got
psyops on top of psyops on top of
psyops here. Right? And I get that it's
difficult, and I'm not claiming to fully understand
or know, a 100%. But what I have
come to the conclusion, I think what you
were just pointing out and we're seeing it
in so many other areas, immigration and things
like this, is I believe that the predator
class, they put two or more
choices in front of us, and none of
them are good. You know? So just to
use immigration like, people think it's, like, the
the dichotomy of the binary is, like, well,
here's a bad choice, and the other one
must be good or slightly better. But may
a lot of people haven't considered what if
all the choices were placed there on purpose
and none of them are good for us?
And none of them are actually good, but
they want to make you choose one where
they're gonna win either way. So the immigration
thing, we know that immigration has been weaponized.
And for years, even before Biden, but definitely
during Biden's administration,
it was allowed to kinda get uncontrolled. I
also think at the same time, there's a
lot of right wing propaganda that has told
people Chinese agents have been sleeping in Iranian
sleeper cells, and they're eating your dogs and
your you know, all kinds of stuff that
has later been proven to be false, but
people believed it and bought into it. But,
yes, immigration has been weaponized. And so that
grows and festers. And then the people, of
course, are like, well, we gotta do something.
And then the options they're being presented with
is elect Trump, and we're gonna have the
largest deportation operation ever. We're gonna militarize the
border. We're gonna ignore due process. We're gonna
do whatever. And labeling everybody gang members, I
think we can see why that's a dangerous
direction.
Or
do nothing and just allow this immigration
policy or lack of policy
to just continue to fester and, you know,
see where that goes. Right? So neither choice
is really ideal. You don't have to be
some open border, you know, radical leftist to
see that, you know you know, the the
the current situation we're dealing with Trump is
not a good good idea. And you also
don't have to be some hard right conservative
to see that there is a problem with
immigration. Right? And so but what what's not
on the table is common sense solutions. Like,
hey. How about we end the warfare state,
end the welfare state, and actually fix the
immigration system so that people could get in
in a timely manner, and you could bring
in good people into the country who are
just trying to live their lives and contribute.
Right? That's not what's on the table. It's
this one extreme of do nothing and let
immigration just flow
endlessly forever and take ice and and they're
not gonna do their jobs or empower ice
to become the Stasi and, you know, get
full on,
you know, early stages of fascism. Like, that's
what I mean is, like, I think that
the psyops are at that point that we
shouldn't assume that the choices being placed in
front of us are going to benefit us
either way.
And I don't know what the the choice
is or how you how we approach that
best, but I do think the best thing
I can come up with is to not
fall for the psyops, to not allow yourself
to be emotionally manipulated,
to fall for Trump and the authoritarianism,
or to the idea which sometimes the left
is like you know, they're kind of unreasonable,
and they're just like, no. We just need
to, you know, let everybody in, and everything's
fine. And they kind of have this very
naive view of what that actually looks like
and how that turns out, would really neither
of those choices are are benefiting us. Well,
it's it's the way you described it. It's
exactly and, I mean, I think it's obviously
by design, but it doesn't have to be
for those that don't wanna think that people
collude and conspire to control your life. But,
clearly, it's leading to a point to where
we have choices that are not in the
interest of Americans in any way, and they'll
admit that. It's the same thing with the
last selection process where it's like, well, we
all agree, but she he's just better. She's
worse. It's not about the good option. And
so we're in a place where we're watching
this and, you know, you get but you
get the screamers out there like we saw
before that will act like, you know, you
gotta be an adult in the room. You
know, you have to admit that this is
the only way we can do it, and
that tricks a lot of people, a lot
of good intention people into thinking they're not
smart enough to grasp the political dynamic. And
so they fall into these choices, which they'll
admit are not what I want, but as
you said, well, the next time, we'll be
able to do it. You know? But by
the time you get there, there's been 37
other psyops that create the same kind of
hair on fire we have to choose right
now between these two things. You know? It's
it's it's like that red button meme. That's
that's everything in our life right now. It's
always down to these two fake choices. And
I but I think Exactly.
I think there's a sense that right now,
though. I really do. And I think that's
why to get to the next part of
this, the
the technocratic
you know, really, that's what we seem to
obviously see in all this. But just the
whatever you wanna call it, the control structure
that's being built is being built in my
mind to make that no longer possible, like,
where our choice their concern over what we
see seems to no longer be relevant. You
know? And so let's let's get into the
whole, you know, using all of what we're
talking about to drive us not so subtly
into, like, the technocratic control structure. You'd mentioned
the,
you know, the silo of information with Palantir,
and that's very clear. If people haven't seen
that, watch both of our work on this
or read it about the, you know, removing
of the silos, using Doge and Palantir to
scrape all this information,
jamming it into basically one location, no concern
for privacy or security. I'm convinced that Israel
and their intelligence has complete access to this.
And using immigration, right, that rolls over into,
just including the same thing, the great Palantir
reset, to what you discussed. Detachment two zero
one, I just got I just discussed it
as well. I call it technocracy in uniform.
So let's talk about that. I really think
this is a
I mean, I'm it's actually I never would
have predicted that's the step that obvious to
just put the CTOs of these companies, Matt
Meta, Palantir,
OpenAI
into the military as lieutenant colonels no less.
So what what give us your thoughts on
that. What does that mean? How how alarming
is that?
I'm glad to see that you were covering
it as well, man, because I saw somebody
had shared with me the announcement, and it
was interesting.
I was reflecting on this the other day,
actually. How many things happened that week? If
if you think about the Bilderberg group was
going on the same week that Trump was
preparing for his military parade that Saturday. And
on the day before, the Friday is when
that picture that you were showing there when
they were sworn in, the heads of these
different companies.
And then, of course, right after that, Israel
starts bombing Iran. I tend to think that
some of these decisions, maybe detachment two zero
one was kind of already in the process,
obviously, because they swore them in on that
Friday.
But I do think some of the bigger,
geopolitical decisions may have been made there at
the Bilderberg Group. And it's also interesting as
I note in my short article there over
at the consciousresistance.com
that, you know, of course, Palantir is represented
through Karp and Teal at the Bilderberg Group,
but there are also,
officials from Microsoft and OpenAI who've been there.
Yeah, man. It's just to me, it's just
that the further merging of these different institutions.
We've already been talking about it with government
and technocracy and things like Doge and the
influence of the efficiency movement and Curtis Yarvin
and all this kind of stuff. But we
hadn't yet seen the military get involved, and
that's what I think makes this unique is
Yeah. As you said, like, taking these four
executives,
giving them a lieutenant colonel position in the
army reserve, which is typically reserved for people
who are in their, like, second decade of
their career.
And, you know, and they typically do oversee
several 100 to maybe even up to a
thousand soldiers. We might we probably won't see
that with these people. Hopefully not. God, it
would be more disturbing if we end up
seeing these big tech execs, like, actually in
charge of soldiers. I mean, I don't know
what that looks like. They're clapping in
Real quickly, I would say the logical connection
would be, you know, a new kind of
battalion,
drones or technological, you know, biosuits or something
like that, AI managed, you know, neurotechnology
to where they would be leading that special
tech part of the field. That's what I'm
telling you. That's, like, my nightmares, but go
ahead.
Yeah. No. You're you're probably right. It might
not be cause I mean, everything's changing, right?
So it might not be a typical battalion
in the sense that we think of it
of just, like, leading soldiers. It could be
that they or the soldiers that they are
kind of overseeing could be a 100 guys
sitting at computers in you know, Las Vegas
at an airbase or something like that, right?
Like that we've seen with the drones and
things of that sort. So
it it isn't you're right that it could
come in a completely different context than what
we're used to because warfare is changing. And
obviously, this also for me goes towards fifth
generation warfare. The idea that social media and
the internet itself is the battlefield and the
mind is the battlefield. So of course, they're
gonna wanna work closer with these big tech
companies which already have massive amounts of data
on people. And they kind of
term it as this is just about modernizing
the military and making it more efficient. Because
I will say and and, again, how who
knows how much of this is propaganda, but
I've heard it from soldiers as well that
even the US military, for all their alleged
and apparent might and power, that a lot
of the military and government systems are decades
behind,
which, again, that could like I said, that
could be psy ops in order to, like,
convince us that we need to allow them
to work with the big tech bros and
further kind of dilute those apparent separations.
But those of us who've been paying attention,
we understand that, well, Palantir is actually born
out of DARPA and the total information awareness
program. Of course, DARPA is part of the
US military.
So there's already been this connection between the
military and a lot of these big tech
companies since the very beginning, since their founding,
since their, their initial funding rounds as well
with In Q Tel. This is just, like,
I think, kind of taking off the mask
and
completely removing or at least a first step
in the process of completely removing any sort
of apparent separation from those institutions. In the
same way that we know social media companies
and other big tech companies started out with
Facebook, etcetera, with the funding. And the more
we see them working with like the Atlantic
Council or with the Atlantic Council represents NATO.
So this isn't a 100% new but the
fact that they're like literally swearing them in
swearing them in as soldiers is kind of
like, wow. Okay. We're at that point now.
Now, they're part of the military. What sort
of,
you know, and that could be as well
that maybe they needed to be sworn in
in order to be,
granted certain access to classified documents or, you
know, sort of, you know, who knows what
the real purpose of this was, but I
don't think it's gonna be the end. I
would I would imagine that detachment two zero
one, which is what they're calling. And as
I point out in in my little piece
there that it's somewhat reminiscent for many of
us to event two zero one, and they
say, well, this has to do with HTTP
commands. It's, you know, not relevant. And maybe
it maybe that's that's true. Maybe that's where
they got it from. But it sure doesn't
make you feel very good to see them
using those numbers again.
Well, the the the point was, if I
remember correctly, that two zero one, there is
a reference to, like, the starting of some
new part of of the coding. So basically,
two zero one Yeah. In either context is
reference to them beginning a new chapter of
something. And I think that's very relevant. So
that's why they would call it that, you
know, in either case. But, yeah, to me,
you're right. You nailed it with, like, the
the the power like, I agree with the
first part that I think this is not
it's not new. It's them showing, you know,
that they're stepping out of the shadows. Like,
these people that are actually pulling the strings
are now seizing positions of actual power is
what it feels like to me. And I
think we're seeing that in a lot of
context, whether it's Zionism influencing these, you know,
these cabinets or whatever we're talking about. We're
seeing a lot of alarming power shifts that
aren't being regarded as such in the mainstream
alternative or mainstream media. You know? Or even,
like, the top the the point of, like,
Prospera and Honduras or these different elements we're
seeing like that. I think that all of
these are moves in that same direction, and
giving them actual level high level power in
the military,
it it just it's it's a step too
far from that. So I say it's technocracy
in uniform. You're actually showing you're you're proving
what we're saying. Like, that this is these
are these are the
the AI Silicon Valley tech experts
who are now putting themselves in positions of
power or vice versa in the government, in
the military. You know? It's like, this just
needs to be acknowledged as the evidence of
exactly what we're warning about. And how is
that not alarming for people? How is it
like, Silicon Valley used to be like this
I don't know if it was ever real
or not, but they had this really hard
line in the sand, like, we will not
cross over in your politics. And, you know,
and then when they started obviously being shown
to be involved in drones and with Palantir
and Google, all their people were protesting, go,
that's not who we are. You know, clearly,
that kind of was always what they were,
but now this is just revealing that same
point. You know, it's it's just this I
mean, where do you think this goes in?
And it's another one well, and it's another
one that I'm surprised that there's not more
coverage of. I mean, I had someone send
it to y. And when I first saw
it, I was like, okay, well, that's interesting.
And then, the reason I chose to actually
write the article because I wrote it a
few days after the announcement, I tend to
sort of like when a story breaks, I
kind of wait and see. And if it's
all over the place everywhere or you know,
like you and others, I'm like, alright. Well,
they've got it covered enough people here and
there's no need for me to kind of,
you know, rehash that. But it was the
exact opposite. I'm like, okay. So nobody else
is talking about this and I was grateful
to see that you were as well. And
I've seen some tweets here and there but
by and large, I haven't seen many people
talking about detachment two zero one and definitely
not understanding the context that we're talking about
here. In terms of what happens next, I
mean, I was just thinking as you were
speaking there that I wonder
if these
lieutenant colonels, which is now the rank they
have. If they have the,
authority
in their kind of unique position to to
bring in more people from their crew, right?
Like what sort of Right. Powers do they
have underneath
their their belt now, now that they're giving
this rank like like I said, is usually
reserved for people who
are two decades into their career and have
proven themselves in the military.
They have some level of authority. They've got
soldiers underneath them, right? So could these tech
execs
swear in more of their employees or could
they allow, you know, now that I'm a
lieutenant colonel, I have certain access information. So
maybe that means I can bring in some
of my employees and my engineers
into the military bases because while they're with
me and they have clearance or you know,
things like that. I think there's just just
a lot of unforeseen,
outcomes that we're gonna have to wait and
see. But overall to me, this is just
a step in that direction. I wouldn't expect
it to be the last. I'm sure we
will see more tech execs follow this program
especially because this is they made a big
deal of like this is the first move
in the detachment two zero one program, which
itself is part of another broader army transformation
initiative.
So I wouldn't be surprised if we see
more of this.
Doctor. I'm I'm what you mentioned is what
I think what concerns me. The potential access
to high level information, which is already there
in, like, a 100 other obvious overlaps. But
maybe there are levels within the military that
aren't there, and whether it's Silicon Valley and
people that are showing themselves to, you know,
be true to themselves before anything else,
or the influence through them. I mean, let's
be obvious about who these people were talking
about. Halantir, you know, Teel, Karp, these are,
like, diehard Zionist supporters of Israel, and that
worries me in this overlap. You know, what
are they gaining access to? And even if
you don't think that's the case, well, you
know, they're they're just consider it being anybody
else in the world. Shouldn't we be worried
that there's people out there that have interest
that go beyond American interest who now have
access to internal high level information.
Obviously, we saw this with Walt using TeleMessage
on his phone, which is an Israeli intelligence
app, to archive their signal app. Did you
see that conversation? And that and then and
then I see that. Their phones got hacked,
you know? And it's like, well, surprise, surprise.
And that's the inner circle, guys, you know?
Yeah. So before before we go to the
oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I was just
gonna say and just one other piece to
kind of add to the Israel piece you're
mentioning there is that we know how many
of these, big tech firms also have Israeli
connections because,
you know, you got unit eighty one, unit
eighty two hundred,
the Mossad obviously,
the Talpiot program. There's many, many pieces of
the Israeli intelligence network that,
are are directly tied to, to the the
tech sector and big tech sector in The
US. So there could be some overlap as
well there. Right? Like, do these companies
whether knowingly or otherwise, let's just imagine the
Israeli networks have infiltrated without even the permission
of OpenAI or,
Palantir. Although, like you said, Palantir is pretty
openly embrace them. So I I don't think
they would have any qualms with giving them
access.
Maybe through that,
they access US military secrets or US military
Doctor. Right. Doctor. Technology. I mean, there's all
sorts of things that I think could go
wrong here.
Doctor. That's what worries me the most, you
know, is where that goes. And so, before
we go back to Israel and maybe, you
know, finish and talking about some foreign policy,
there's an obvious point to go on this
that connects to the overlap of all we've
been discussing that you commented on recently. And
I this is you know, and we can
obviously go into a lot of different things
here. The contradiction of of the the leadership
in the Maha movement, not necessarily everybody who
believed that's where it was going, because I
still think they're largely in their intentions for
good. They got played by people like this
who are rolling out CRISPR pig meat, mRNA
shots, MMR shots, I mean,
self amplifying shots, or, you know, any number
of other things allowing the PFAS restrictions to
be removed.
I mean, I'm shocked to see how brazen
the one eighty was in a lot of
this. But so you you recently commented on
the wearables,
this conversation. And then the secretary secretary Kennedy
put this out. Wearables
put basically, what he says is by the
end of what, the year that or a
couple years, he thinks that everyone should have
a wearable. And so, you just said it
was a bad move and listed the obvious.
So what are your thoughts on that and,
you know, all that? Where wherever you wanna
go with it. Doctor. Well,
so if you click that link, there's the
conscious resistance. That's a report I did which
is actually based on an article I wrote
for T Lab. And
funny thing about this so that's just my
video version of the article. The article's in
the show notes that we did a while
back,
about this whole wearable thing. Yeah. Right there,
that article.
The US government awards contracts to seven organizations
with ties to Gates Foundation, DARPA, and Big
Tech. And I was just showing how in
there that a lot of those companies focus
on wearable technologies and and things that sort
and kind of showing this is October 2020.
So we're in the middle of COVID And
it wasn't necessarily prediction but all the signs
are there and here we are five years
later and the new head of the HHS
who's supposed to be Maha is here saying
that that's gonna be the future and in
the next couple years, I think he said
three or four years
that everybody will be wearing them. Thankfully, there
has been a lot of pushback and people
are, you know, it's not like Maha is
taking this laying down. Although, I think a
lot of people are disappointed for sure. And
I do think with I agree with your
analysis there that while I have been pretty
critical of of Kennedy and I will continue
to be, I do think there's a lot
of well meaning intention people who jumped on
board that movement and absolutely did follow Trump
simply based on the Maha promises
which I think was part of the SIOP
as well. Whether Kennedy was fully aware or
not,
that that was part of because they we
know that Trump, he needed the libertarians, he
needed the crypto crowd just as far as
for whatever you think the elections are real.
Even if we know the elections are rigged
and Trump was totally selected, which is what
I believe,
there still needs to be the appearance of
unity. Doctor. Justin Marchegiani: A momentum. Doctor. Yeah.
Doctor. Of like a momentum of a movement,
right? Because if there was no movement
and all of a sudden this happened, there
would be a lot more skeptical people. But
now people are like, what are you talking
about, Derek? We built a movement, a coalition.
We had Tulsa. We had RFK. We had
all these disaffected Democrats, and we had the
crypto bros, and we had the libertarians, and
we came together in this beautiful coalition, and
that's how we won. So it gives this
this air of legitimacy. But the point is
that a lot of people did vote for
Trump and went, you know, to have joined
this kind of movement
skeptically,
you know, very uncertain,
but they did so because they believe, well,
at least maybe we can get some some
some movement around the health aspect. And Which
I understand. I mean
yeah. Because I get I get, like, they
feel they felt like there was a gamble,
and people tell me, Derek, well, there's no
chance of this happening with Kamala Harris, so
I'm gonna go with with Trump. And, yeah,
the the, I think it's the ACIP, the
vaccine committee that a lot of the mainstream's
making a big deal about right now, That
RFK
and his team, they removed all the old
people and they put in new folks like
Robert Malone. I tend I am also skeptical
of Robert Malone and some of his connections
and his discussion with the CIA. But even
putting that aside, I can objectively say that's
probably better. They're probably going to do better
than the previous guys would do, but that
doesn't that doesn't we shouldn't ignore then that
Trump's FDA
has approved to fast track two m and
r mRNA injections already. And you mentioned the
Stargate mRNA AI stuff. The HHS under RFK
declaring antisemitism,
you know, one of the greatest health public
health threats. And and there's also still the
other we haven't talked about this in a
while, but the other one that I'm still
keeping an eye on. And I did write
one article for TLAB maybe a month ago,
but there's been more updates, is that the
Trump administration is still showing all signs that
they are going to fight the the ruling
of the fluoride lawsuit.
Right. They I I published this a couple
weeks ago. They did their third request. So,
you know, the for those who have missed
it, last year, federal judge rules that the
EPA is supposed to act either ban fluoride
or do something. And that was under the
Biden administration, of course. And right before Biden
left, his EPA did issue an appeal. And
so then, it was like, Okay. Let's kind
of wait and see. Is Trump gonna continue
the appeal? A lot of Maha people including
my friends over at the Fluoride Action Network
and people who are involved in that lawsuit
are like, No, no. He's gonna come in.
They're gonna shut the appeal down, and we're
gonna see what the EPA does. Well, it's
about to be July, and,
they're still fighting that appeal. And that gentleman
you're showing on screen there,
he is the surgeon general now, and he's
also a lawyer who defended Trump, during some
of the impeachment hearings in the past. And,
his
his attorneys have now requested and received three
different,
extensions. So they were supposed to make a
decision if they were gonna appeal back in,
like, March or April, and then they they
had delayed it to April, and then they
delayed it till May, and then they delayed
it to June. The most recent one I
saw was an extension to, like, July 11.
When we discussed this on on the interview,
that that was at the point where they
had delayed it once. Is that correct?
They had delayed it twice then, and now
there's been a third one since then. So
I think in that article there
yeah. I think in that article, I put
I posted that their next deadline was June
11. But right before June 11 came up,
they they extended again. So I think it's,
like, July 5 or some I'll have to
look up the exact date. But I've been
following the court records
because again, the the corporate media is not
following this. So you just gotta log in
and you gotta follow the court records and
you can see and I quoted them from
there. It seems pretty clear that Trump administration
is gonna continue to fight it because what
they've said several times now is that we
need more time to review the scientific data
before the surgeon general can decide if he's
gonna go through with it. You know, basically,
they're saying, like, we make a report. We
pass that to the assistant or surgeon general.
He reviews it. He makes some recommendations, and
then that goes to the surgeon general, and
he's the one who makes the actual final
call.
But in my mind, and this is what
Michael Connick, who's the lead attorney who's told
me, I think it's quoted in that article,
that we've already had numerous reviews. We've already
we don't need the EPA to do more
reviews on top of reviews and have this
thing delay for another five, ten years, and
then it never happens. The Trump administration
that too. Exactly. And if the Trump administration
wants to follow the federal government's own report
of the National Toxicology Program or follow the
ruling of a federal judge,
then and follow Maha because RFK surely knows
there's problems with fluoride,
then they there should be no question. It
should just be we're rescinding the appeal, the
EPA is going to act, and that's a
done deal. Instead, they're delaying and delaying and
saying, we're gonna let you know. We'll figure
it out soon. And, there's been no major
reporting on this. And I think they might
be hoping that people just kinda forget about
it and and the whole thing goes away.
So frustrating. Yeah. So they delayed it again
since we talked. I mean, yeah. And I
you know, that that the the fact that
the evidence was already they've gone through this
all the times you've already been covering it,
the many different times they've tried to roll
it back, and the evidence was already there.
You know, I'm we can hope, as always,
we should hope, as I get where they're
coming from, that that this is gonna go
the right direction. But the moment that this
doesn't, we're gonna be screaming about it. Right?
And it's it's everyone needs to call it
out because this is a major I mean,
it's this is about the same level for
me as
the MMR shot, which was insane to see
RFK Jr go the way he did with
that. So, you know, fluoride being something he's
been adamant about over the years. And so
we'll have to see when it happens, but
Derek will be covering when it happens. So
look forward to that. Yeah. It's frustrating, man.
I mean, I it's just just so much
of this stuff, and it just this is
why, again, the point of the community, there's
a lot of them. Like, I'll point out
Mary Talley Bowden, for example, MD, who she
she's been very aggressive about this, rightly so.
You know, going, like, the it's about principles,
and this is wrong. The moment they went
away from it, she's like, not that's not
what we promised. That's wrong. And that's what
that's what it takes today. We have to
start standing by our principles or we're gonna
get lost. Doctor. I do appreciate her and
others that have a bigger platform that are
calling out. And that's one good thing I
will say about this sort of the social
media aspect of this is that when RFK
makes these tweets,
look at the comments. I mean, he's getting
ate up by his own people, people who
are like, you sold out. This is not
what I voted for. Now, obviously, that who
knows if that translates into anything? But at
the very least, it's good to see that
not everybody following Trump or following RFK are
sycophants and that some people are choosing to
stick with principles over, you know, personalities.
You know, I get the sense that it's
a lot more than we think and that
there's a lot of people in the middle
of all this who don't have a voice,
who don't have a large following, who don't,
you know, in the sense of, like, being
seen in the conversation out there, who just
are very unhappy with what's going on. You
know? But they but they're not out there
waving their hands going, we should've picked Tawala.
They probably they still think, you know, they're
in their mind, there still was only two
choices, but they're not happy with this. And
I'm talking to more of them every single
day. They just don't you know, they get
drowned out by the Knicks, Soders, and Jones
of the world who just scream the narrative
over the top of everybody. And, you know,
and they and then it gives them some
feeling like, okay. Maybe I'm wrong. You know,
maybe this is maybe we're still winning, you
know, and they fall back in line. You
know? So but I I think that people
recognize how
how, you know, this is not going the
direction that they'd wanted. You know? And so
let let's finish with a conversation of some
foreign policy because, obviously, this is a a
very, very large conversation going on. So first,
excuse me, before we talk about Iran and
some different points, speaking of of manipulators, let's
here's what Nick Sorder put out around Gaza,
which I just think says a lot, and
we've seen this so many times. He says,
breaking,
president Trump, which, again, it you know, wasn't
breaking. He saw somebody else report it and
then reported it. And it says, Donald Trump
has convinced BB, they all love to call
him BB now because Trump said that, to
end the war in Gaza within two weeks
per multiple reports. So point is a report
went out saying something we've heard a thousand
times and never actually happened. Right? Then he
goes, the peace president never stops. I'm like,
you know, you you can't being a cheerleader
today is so self evident. You know? We
don't even know what's happening yet. But it
says they've agreed that UAE, Egypt, and two
other countries will govern Gaza. Oh, okay. So
we're now at the point again where Palestinians
don't decide their own future, so they'll say
no, and they'll be blamed for not wanting
peace. You know, it's like the same old
cycle, man. But just wanna point out, and
if you want any comments on Gaza since
it seems to be kind of the back
burner of the conversation right now in foreign
policy, it frustrates me. We're still playing this
game where the fake cease fire so we
can get a a moment of some kind
of fake win like when he took in
came into power and they pretend that there
was a cease fire that we all knew
they were gonna break, you know, and the
idea that they're not making their own choices.
Go ahead.
That's that's what's been coming to my mind
too because I've I've had some Trumpers in
my comments when I made, like, a big
post the several posts last week about the
the bombing of Iran and just sort of,
hey. Here's your peace president. Right? And now
they're it's funny. Even Nick there, who I
cannot stand that dude,
is kind of twisting. It's like, when we
say he's not a peace president, it's because
he's bombing people and he's doing without congressional
approval and because he dropped more drone bombs
than Obama and, you know, he helped Saudi
Arabia
massacre Yemen. We could go on and on.
Right? He's funding Gaza, etcetera, the massacre of
Gaza.
But then they're twisting it of peace president
because he's going to allegedly broker a peace
deal.
Even if in the process of getting this
alleged peace deal, it means him launching wars
and and bombs and killing people or at
least supporting that. I think that's part of
the manipulation.
Or the fact that he's are you know,
let's just assume for sake of conversation he's
actually seeking peace, which I don't believe, and
I think the facts back it up. But
even if he is, you're seeking peace for
something you started. You can't be called a
peace president for for a peace with in
in a in a war that you initiated
or rather with your allies that you back.
I mean so but they know that though.
I mean or I mean, I shouldn't give
them credit when it comes to intelligence, but
I think that largely, they're aware they're being
deceptive in my opinion. I I think so.
And then the other point I would make
is is what the the second part of
his comment was alluding to, which you pointed
out is that okay. So this alleged peace
deal does not involve Palestinians having a voice.
This involves
other nations like The US. And this is,
to me, just one of the fundamental problems
with this is, like, people say, well, Iran
shouldn't have access to nukes. And it's like,
well, why is it The US that gets
to decide that? Why is it that nations
like Israel and The US who have weapons
of mass destruction
are the ones that get to decide who
else gets to have those weapons of mass
destruction. And I guess that's the answer as
well because they've got the weapons and they
could decide who gets to keep them. And
if not, they're gonna use them on people.
But it's just that sort of unspoken assumption
that, well, we're the US government is the
good guys. The US military is the good
guys. And so we're the ones who get
to decide who gets to have what
on the world stage. But then also that,
like, that so The UAE, which is not
known for human rights, caring about human rights,
Egypt,
same problems, and other Arab states are going
to govern Gaza. Not the Palestinian people, not
a two state solution, not the Palestinians themselves,
nothing of that. It's just we're gonna get
some other foreign governments to come in there.
And I bet you those foreign governments would
like to have a piece of that,
you know, that real estate that we all
know that they're after and that, Jared Kushner
and others would love to have. And even
Trump shared, you know, those freaking AI generated
videos of him and Netanyahu hanging out on
the beach and stuff like that. Doctor. Right.
So it's it's really demoralizing
and frustrating to me, man, because this is
in my view and my perspective, all of
this and the battle that the Palestinian people
have been fighting for generations now
is just another legacy of colonization.
And, you know, colonization
obviously has impacted the entire world, but this
is, like, one of the places in the
world where it's still ongoing, where there's a
people who are being colonized by people from
around the world just because they happen to
be Jews. And that's not to say that
the people who are I have friends who
are born and raised in Israel, and they
didn't start this conflict.
They're not to blame for it necessarily.
But I do think there's something that that
people need to come to atone for is
that like, well, the land you are living
on though did belong to somebody else. And
even if it's not your fault and you
were born into this and, you know, I'm
not saying you need to be exterminated or
I don't not even necessarily saying you need
to be taken out of your home. But
at the very least, these people should be
allowed to exist where they have been, where
their, you know, their ancestors have been and
where, you know, they were born into instead
of being removed. And it shouldn't be this
sort of paternal,
which is, unfortunately, the way that government works,
this sort of paternal system that says, well,
we're going to, from on high, kind of
dictate what these people should do because we
know what's better for them, when really it
just comes down to that the world is
beholden by the Zionist regime. Most of the
western nations are, as as this audience knows
very well, and they will not allow a
situation where Israel does not have the upper
hand. And that's what it all comes down
to. Right. And I would argue each one
of those countries they're pointing to would, in
their own way, allow Israel to rule Gaza
through them, if not blatantly over the top
of all of them, which is probably what's
really gonna happen. You know? So it's it's
just very it's it's infuriating
that we have to They're all just puppets
of Israel in their own way.
Yeah. I agree. I agree. And what what's
frustrating is that this you know, the the
the sentiment being pushed out about them being
decided or you know, every single element of
this, not to get into it today because,
you know, we're just touching on this, all
of it are based on lies from the
occupation itself to the, you know, the the
illusion of what's really going on, the election
of Hamas, the funding of Hamas, you know,
and it's just so frustrating. We still have
to play games with people that are being
willfully dishonest or have no idea what they're
talking about in the context of all of
this. The world is aware of what Israel
is. And as your point, that's not all
Jews or all anything other than the people
in the Zionist government committing these crimes. You
know? And that's what and and through that,
who they manipulate. You know? And this the
world sees this. Like, that that their claims
have no power anymore in regard to Zionist
lying about racism and so on. It has
fallen apart. You know? And that's why it's
so important that we keep pushing on this
story because it I mean, there's people that
have pointed this early on and said that
this and I I made a similar point
about how long we would talk about what
this is, and I believe it's gonna go
on for centuries at the very least. It's
a very huge moment for what this if
if, you know, assuming it goes in the
right direction where the world will be different
forever because they'll finally get to see what
they've been doing in so many ways around
the world, and that's going to have a
major changing point. You know, it's it just
it's a very important time for us to
stick to our principles, to put a pine
point on it. You know? I really think
so. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Let's let's talk let's talk about the
Iran overlap to that since you're already you're
already pointing to that as well. Because right
now, obviously, Israel is now, you know, it
it what is it? Six different fronts currently
involved with bombing multiple countries, five at the
very least?
This is what Donald Trump put out. Well,
this overlaps with his going into the Iran
part we'll finish with. But this is actually
a real post. Candace Owens shared this. She
said, I legitimately had to cross check truth
social to see if this was real, and
it's real. For anyone who would like to
take a deeper look into bbnet and yahoo,
check out the b b files, which if
you haven't, my god, it'll blow your mind.
I mean, it is it's everything we've already
talked about, but this guy is hated by
the Is that a documentary? Or is it
literally fun? I think I've downloaded that a
while back when that came out. Yeah. Yeah.
It's wild. I mean, for one thing that
jumps to my head, Miriam Adelson, for all
her power and the family and the money
behind them, is is on leaked video saying
that if I say the wrong things that
he'll kill her, that they'll they'll kill me,
you know, and with no no humor. I
mean and there's so many different points that
all these people, like, lying and trying to
cover up, and nobody likes him. Everybody in
ever even right now, they're trying to get
it removed, and Trump's now trying to defend
him saying it's terrible. What's happening? So here
here's the same kind of sentiment. And he
says, I was shocked to hear that the
state of Israel By the way, we can't
see your screen right now.
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Either way, it's
just a a post from True Social. It
says, I was shocked to hear and then
here just so you could see it. This
is what Candace Owens was saying first.
I I was shocked to hear that the
state of Israel, which had had which has
just had one of its greatest moments in
history.
I mean, I'm not even sure what he's
it's what what does he mean? The bombing
of Iran? And it says, and is strongly
led by by Netanyahu, is continuing its ridiculous
witch hunt. Like, I'm
against against,
Netanyahu.
You know, all the evidence they have, multiple
indictments, all the different people, and indictments aren't
proof, but the evidence is unreal. And all
the different times, the only reason he's not
in prison is because he started all these
different wars. Even Horets will tell you that.
And this goes on to basically say, you
know, they,
where did he he says, BB and I
just went through hell together fighting a very
tough, brilliant, long time enemy of Israel, Iran,
by what? Bombing them a few times? He's
so bombastic and hyperbolic.
Stronger is love for the incredible holy land.
I mean, you get the point of it.
I don't have to read it all. But
the calling from the from the pardon him.
You know, it it's just I agree. It's
insane for him to come out and say
it's now. So what do you first actually,
just on that one tweet, what's your take
on that? Does that suggest to you that
he's compromised or that he just is that
far supporting them? I mean, how do you
say this? Well, what he knows, his base
thinks about this guy.
I just think Trump is full of shit.
I mean, there's just no what no other
way to put it. I mean, like, I
saw that same, post from Truth Social going
around and some of the reporting on it.
And, yeah, I mean, I had the same
reaction, like, what universe is this guy living
in? Like, even even, like you said, his
own base isn't fans of Netanyahu, and they're
having to twist themselves into, you know, knots
and use mental gymnastics to kind of make
it make sense for them. And here he
is openly,
you know, embracing him and claiming that he
he is this great hero. And you also
rightfully pointed out that prior to October 2023,
and this whole thing this latest, you know,
of course, Israel has been massacring the Palestinians
for for generations now. But the October 2023,
Netanyahu was already, like, slated for, impeachment and,
you know, things were rising up, investigations against
him. And being a wartime president, as Trump
has said there, has allowed him to extend
his power and kind of delay the inevitable.
And now that it's happening, of course, Trump's
coming to his, his aid and defending him.
It's not surprising to me, but
it does just show, I think, how,
like, I've never truly understood the Trump
fascination, the Trump deception. Like, I've I've legitimately
tried to and listened to some of Trump's
talks and to see, like, what is it
that people are getting. And I think that,
for me, it plays on the lowest base
human emotions.
Like you said, he's bombastic.
He likes to make fun of people.
Look at those stupid, you know, fake news
and everybody cheers and laughs or
or the other thing, he tugs their heartstrings
and, like, here's this mother whose child was
killed by an immigrant. You know, I'm gonna
stand and fight for them. The other big
thing is, of course, his statements he said
multiple times that it's they're not coming after
me. They're coming after you, and I'm standing
in the way. There's a lot of psychological
stuff going on here that I think pulls
people in so that they identify with Trump
and really kind of have this,
this almost unbreakable bond. Thankfully, it is breakable,
and some people do wake up from it
as I've heard over recent weeks. People saying,
yeah. I voted for him, but I'm regretting
it. You know, this and that. But, yeah,
I just think that there's just Trump doesn't
have much. You know, he's not a deep
philosophical thinker.
He's not
a eloquent speaker.
He doesn't have much to offer other than
bombastic,
you know, lies and,
playing on people's emotions. And the fact that
anybody can see that and buy into it
of course, you got the Laura Laura Loomers
of the world and people who follow her,
who will love and, you know, and cheer
that on. But I don't think that the
majority of MAGA I don't think that that
the majority of MAGA does want this relationship
with Netanyahu.
But the problem is, and this goes back
to what we were saying earlier in the
conversation, is some people are still stuck on
personalities,
and they don't know how to,
to kind of pull that apart and and
allow space in their mind of, okay. Maybe
I did vote for Trump. I do think
he's better than Kamala,
but
still, this doesn't line up with what I
am fighting for. This doesn't line up with
what I voted for. This doesn't line up
with what I believe. In fact, it goes
against it. It does not only not align,
but it goes right against the very principles
I believe in. And you see this also
with, like, him, you know, attacking Thomas Massie.
I don't agree with Thomas Massie on maybe
everything in the world, but and I know
there's some people who have concerns about some
of his,
connections.
But as far as politics go, he he's
the most principled person in the political game.
Like, let's just say that. Right? Yeah. And
and easily easily. And for Trump to have
such a fit and wanna go after him
because he's not towing the line,
you know, and and some of his base
are buying it, and they're ready to primary
him and try to get him out of
office. They tried that, and they didn't succeed,
which I think is funny too to watch
them fail at that.
But either way, the point is like somebody
who's actually who was supportive of Trump and,
you know, bought into the narrative because, okay,
well, he's gonna do some of these good
things, Doge, etcetera,
is now saying, hey, Louis, he's he's going
to war without authorization.
The big the stupid bill, and I'm gonna
call it what he calls it, the stupid
big bill is, you know, gonna add all
this money to the deficit.
And Massey is just speaking truth about it
and Trump can't handle it. This just shows
me too that even though people want to
ignore it because they think it's just leftist
TDS,
Trump has an authoritarian streak
and he
demands obedience
to him.
That's the sign of an authoritarian.
So it's not just leftist, mainstream media, George
Soros talking points to acknowledge that. You can
see all of the personality traits in Trump
that he demands allegiance and obedience and the
people who don't give it,
you know, he's ready to toss them under
the bus.
I mean and that's let's be clear. That's
actually an acknowledged point within a lot of
the team sport politics hierarchy and all, like,
you know, that you don't counter signal the
leader. You know, like, I've seen these statements
out there. Or even Mary Tal, we just
mentioned Bowden. She she says she got all
these people in her DM saying, just tone
down. Don't say those things right now. Don't
say it because you're hurt you know, it's
like, it's the truth though. And you know
it's the truth and you're asking me to
You're gonna hurt the movement.
Yeah, man. It's it's very, very clear in
all of this. And, you know, like I
said, it is Trump first, not America first
for a lot of these people. And some
of them, like a cat turd out there,
will be honest about that and say, I
will always trust Trump, and I'll always cyber
Trump. It's like you're basically saying what we
all laugh about. You know? It's just it's
very clear on that. Our point.
Exactly.
But so to to finish on the Iran
overlap to all of it, the the what's
this this is a tweet from Aaron Mate.
I don't know if you saw this. Well,
I wanna talk about a few things to
just wrap up in general. Your thoughts about
where where we are with Iran, the back
and forth. We don't have to go in
all of it, but just whatever strikes your
mind right now is interesting in the bombing
of the the basin cutter, the possibility that
people were warned and they were removed. We
have the sleeper cell point that I will
make a point on before we wrap that
I think is very interesting. Aaron said this
said we saw this Washington Post thing. Now
he says, not that we need any more
confirmation, but the Washington Post reports that the
Israeli US attack on Iran was decided months
earlier. And we I we've already reported this.
Now we're not taking this based on what
Washington Post has to say. The the facts
they're pointing to have been confirmed in multiple
ways and saying that decided months earlier that
they had nothing to do with nuclear weapons,
that they already decided. Even, I think it
was,
was it Rubio? Admitted that essentially after March
7 was when they had already made the
decision. And it says senior Israeli officials say
they already decided by March, that was the
one I was referencing, to attack Iran the
same month The US intel community assessed that
Iran had no nuclear weapons program. We didn't
touch on that either.
The Gabbard, you know, basically saying the truth,
IAEA saying the truth, Trump saying he doesn't
care, and then her just lying about what
she said. It's very weird. The reason, it
goes on to say, was that Iran would
have rebuilt its air defenses by the latter
half of the year, exactly, which gave Israel
a unique opportunity to execute plans, carefully laid
plans, and years in advance
to heavily damage a weakened Iran. They that's
what they wrote. Just to underscore the point,
the choice to attack was not so much
driven by new intelligence indicating an Iranian
sprint for a nuclear weapon or any imminent
threat to Israel. Direct quote from the article.
So very, very telling, but, you know, not
not news to you and I automatically, but
what are your thoughts? No. It's it's definitely
not news, and and, yeah, there's a couple
of points you brought up there that I'll
I'll comment on. I mean, for one, I
hadn't seen that specific post article, but this
is something that others have suspected. I've seen
some reporting elsewhere that the for one, like
you said, Gabbard, like, totally flip flopping. She
shared the video where the video literally says
the opposite of what she says, and and
it's just I think these people think that
MAGA is stupid
or that a lot of people are blind
or they they're still realizing that we have
the Internet and we can, you know, pull
up clips and stuff like that. Desperate. It
could be desperate. Desperate. Yeah. And and I
think also, though, again, just I'm gonna hammer
the point home again. These people have no
principles. You know, if they did have them,
they're willing to sell them out when it
comes to Trump.
And you also made a great point a
couple of moments ago about you see this
often in in the political world, which is
the reason why I think it's it's it's
kind of inherently set up to make people
abandon principles. Because once you get in there
and maybe you think you're gonna do something
good, but then you're not supposed to do
what Thomas Massey is doing or others are
doing. You're supposed to always like, you know,
maybe privately you say, hey, I think I
have a problem with this. But publicly, you're
always supposed to praise the dear leader and
say, he's right. You know, we're stand together
with the party. And it's not about being
you know, doing what's right. It's not about
doing what you believe in. It's not about
your principles. It's just about maintaining a united
front. You know, we must look like we're
all on the same page for for the
sake of appearance or whatever. And I think
that's just completely garbage. Like, if people
actually had principles as Thomas Massey appears to,
at least in in this case,
then stand on them. And and I said
the same thing when they put RFK in
there, and I was just telling people how,
you know, that they're failing on a lot
of fronts and people are like, Well, Derek,
if they come out too strong, it's going
to do this and they're not going to
succeed. And I just feel like if you
have your principles and if you got the
truth on your side, stand on that, right?
And if Tulsi Gabbard was who she claims
to be, this anti
war, cool surfer chick who's just one of
the guy, you know, one of the cool
people on our team,
then stand on that and stand proudly and
say, Look, I voted for Trump. I'm happy
to be a part of this cabinet.
I love my position
but they're wrong on this. And I don't
want to go down in history as being
wrong so I'm going to stand firm on
this. And maybe you get kicked out, maybe
they fire you. And at least the people
see that you stood on that but that's
not what a lot of these people are
capable of doing because they have political aspirations.
We have to remember that Tulsi Gabbard also
ran for president a couple times. Right. For
her, this could be a leg up to
the be the next candidate. Right? I mean,
that's typically how these people operate is they
want their positions, and they wanna show that
they held that position long, and they did
some great things, and now they have the
experience to be the commander in chief. Right?
So there's that kind of angle. And then
in terms of the whole sleeper cells stuff,
man, I know you have something else to
add to that. But just I'll just say
my initial thoughts, of course, were, like,
be prepared for a false flag. Be prepared
for something going on. I was reminded of
that,
really
telling and interesting sixty minutes report. I'm sure
you saw. There was this it was during
the Lebanon majors thing happened when they interviewed
this, like, masked Israeli, Massad Asian, whatever. And
he said something to the effect of, like,
we create the reality you guys are living
in. Right? And just how much the Israeli,
intelligence
is is doing that, is doing reality fabrication
and and psyops around us. And
more specifically, that they have the technology
to blow up pagers. In the way that
that happened, we don't have time to get
into today but for those who don't, never
really follow that story, it wasn't just that
they like randomly hack the pagers like they
had to track down, okay, which company and
manufacturers are may use making the pagers that
the, Hezbollah is going to use, and then
they infected the assembly line and the manufacturing.
So then they could track them, and they
were tracking them for months just waiting for
the right time to to blow them up.
So
they could do the same thing in The
US if they wanted to. They could do
some false flag. They could have, you know,
Israeli sleeper sale cells go out and do
something. And, of course, there's always the possibility
that they just stage a cyberattack and then
blame it on Iran. They've already seen this,
and we saw this after the fact with
the, the alleged
assassination attempt in Butler
where they started trying to say that it
was somehow related to Iran, and that didn't
really catch on. I did some reporting too.
I was reviewing it recently. Right before the
election, there was, like, this, you know, intelligence
out there that Iran may try to hack
the U. S. Election. And they never really
made anything of it but it was like
they already stealing people's minds with that idea.
And so when you put that in the
full context, they have this whole record. They
can now look back and be like, Well,
we know Iran was involved in the assassination.
We know they tried to hack the election
and kind of build up this narrative that
they've been trying to get into us. And
now this is just the latest response, and
it's in response to our beautiful bombing of
that country that we all know is part
of the axis of evil that George Bush
told us about after nine eleven. It's like
this long game.
One other point on that, I reported this
on my show last night that I found
it really, really odd. I don't know. Interesting
that General Wesley Clark, who you know and
all both of our audiences know was the
man who said about the going into five
nation or seven nations in five years at
post nine eleven, including, he said, ending with
Iran.
Well,
now he's on MSNBC
sharing this sleeper cells propaganda,
which I thought was just really interesting. It's
like, this is the guy warning us about
the plan, which we've all seen play out
with them going to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan,
you know, bombing in Somalia, bombing these other
countries, Yemen, getting control of that through Saudi
Arabia,
and then now going after Iran. And now
here he is on MSNBC
spreading propaganda about sleeper cells. And maybe he
knows something we don't, and maybe that is
a real threat, and we're just kind of
being naive here. But I find it very
suspicious that it's like the same guy who
told us about this plan is now out
there saying that we need to be careful
because Iranian sleeper cells are hiding in our
bushes.
Doctor. Right. Well, I I don't I doubt
either of us would ever doubt the possibility
or ever
blindly disregard that it could be happening. Like,
you know, what we want are facts, not
insinuations from intelligence that lies more often than
not. You know? So but the the idea
that there's any kind of a sleeper cell
from any government is obviously something that could
exist. But whether, you know, Israelis are doing
that in your point about the pager attack,
there's more evidence to that effect than anything
I've ever seen in my life. And the
idea of of whether, you know, attacking or
or deploying things that sit there for years
as they would argue, you know, and then
executing that, killing or hurt I think it
was hurting, 75%
of it was women and children. You know,
it's it's horrific stuff. But the possibility Or
as you said,
they said the world is our stage or
something like that. And then you said that
we you know, what you said, the second
part, where they're admitting to Doctor. Yeah. They
say we're creating reality for you and you're
just existing in it or something. Yeah. Like,
so they they're paraphrasing. So what they're basically
saying, you know, that we dictate anywhere or
the different times, the Knesset and people in
you know, as their congress, for those who
don't know the term, for in Israel
openly say that we can legislate anywhere in
the world. International law does not bind us.
And that's very real. Many times, that's been
stated. All these things in the context show
you that that's very possible. Back to the
point about the Iran act dynamic. We should
we shouldn't disregard whether Iran could do that,
but the question is to what end? That
isn't if there is no provable end or
intention, that still doesn't mean it's not possible.
But ask why that would make sense. Okay?
So then if it's happening, right, so we
have people in this country, then we should
start looking for facts. Because what's interesting to
me is at the time, I've never seen
more of an interest from Israel and United
States to get you thinking something like that's
happening. Then we start seeing all the DC
drain hose and sorters and all the rest
just floating out fact free nonsense about sleeper
cells, home and putting out things about sleeper
not facts, just going Biden let people in,
so Iran's sleeper cells. Like, that being the
Baker Space Guardian.
And that fits right into the two party
narrative of, like, well, it's Biden's fault because
of his stupid border policy. He led on
these Iranian sleeper cells, and then that plays
right into the current propaganda. Right. So, again,
question all of this. Be right. Be, you
know, worried, consider, but don't jump into any
reactionary situation with you know, there's plenty of
false flag dynamics. I'll just include this that
I thought was this is what I was
gonna just point to. I think this is
just interesting. Certainly could just be the the
inadequacy
of the Iranian
Iranian revolutionary guard. I don't know. But here's
what here's the post. It says,
ICE arrest 11,
Iranian illegal aliens over the weekend, including alleged
Iranian army sniper
of Karimi. He was carrying an Islamic
Republic of Army ID. And I simply said,
because it's customary for the sleeper cell operatives
to carry Iranian military identification. I just thought
that was a little bit interesting. Right? But
my point is like nine eleven and the
passports.
Yes. Right? A little bit too convenient. But,
no, certainly possible. My point though is that
if you really look at the story, there's
only two of them that they argue have
any real potential
concern,
but not enough for them to even be,
like you know, other than maybe the current
political
overview of the immigration thing, like, these people
wouldn't be able to necessarily be re declined
entering the country. The point is that if
you look at all of them, it very
well could just be Iranians
who are here, who are immigrants, you know,
who are now being arrested. Now I don't
know. My point is I don't have any
any other evidence other than insinuations from people
who have been caught lying a 100 times
just since they've been put in position. You
know? So it's very interesting And they have
an incentive to lie and push their propaganda?
Doctor. Yes. Doctor. They have an incentive to
keep people afraid. And just one last point
I'll make on that is and maybe this
is an example of it with this catching
of these 11 men here. But, you know,
where's Palantir? Where's,
ClearView AI? You're telling me this massive surveillance
state we have can't locate these alleged sleeper
cells that are just hiding everywhere.
Right. Or if they can't, that's more of
their reason to justify why they need to
look closer and scan more and can you
know, it's all this self fulfilling prophecy. But,
yes, the point is just to keep you
know, be quite
skeptical to sow discernment. I'll include this at
the end as well. This was a very
and this just adds more to my very
clear concern. Those that watch this show, you
already know about this. This for Derek, you
might not have seen this. There's many different
many large 100,000 follower Patriot MAGA accounts came
out with this. Iranian national was let into
the country under Biden. He says, sue, and
you will know who I am. Remember the
story? It's this guy. He did come in.
He did say that. Now the video they
don't include is where he says he's Palestinian.
That's why they cut it out, but he
wasn't Palestinian either. This came out at the
time when they were trying to convince you
that Palestinian Hamas were gonna sneak into the
border. Right? Well, we covered this in January
2024 when the same grifters told you he's
Palestinian.
He's proven
to be a work he worked for Mossad.
He was arrested in by Egypt, charged him
as working for Mossad. And, here here's the
actual article. So I'm gonna go through it
all again. You guys can check it out.
But what's funny is I covered this at
the time. The guy who they want you
to the guy in the border, this guy,
want they wanted you to think it was
this guy. That's the one they claimed it
was. This guy, at the time this guy
was crossing the border, is, like, 30 years
older. And they and he has a pro
a channel, and you can prove it. And
so they are trying to make him in
to be this Islamic terrorist. The reality is
you can prove based on many different factors
I did in the show that he's actually
the guy that got accused working for Assad,
was arrested, and somehow ended up in this
on our border claiming he was a Palestinian
when that was the interest. And now suddenly,
it's being claimed to be an Iranian. You
know what I mean? And it's like so
these things just scream that we're being manipulated
into a certain situation. Now, you know, but
still consider everything else, you know? But check
out the show for those don't know. The
evidence is very clear. It's
striking. But so, let let you know, end
with where you think this might go, brother.
Any of the comments you were gonna make
there? Doctor. Yeah. I mean, I just wanna
say thanks for all the work you put
in, man, because I think that those even
though those are like small little details sometimes
and they get lost in the just the
sauce of so many other things happening, I
try to hold on to those types of
stories because those are the kind of things
that that little detail, right? As you showed
there with Patriot, whoever sharing it, gets shared
millions of times and repeated. And then, that
gets picked up and shown in other videos
and TikTok videos. And then, people carry that
knowledge and they think, Oh, wait. I remember
that one time, this Iranian blah, blah, whatever.
And even just being able to catch those
lies, whether it was intentional or it just,
you know, people in a hysteria rush to,
you know, prove their point.
Having those little examples to pull up are
so important because it can help debunk other
things where we can show people, Look, no,
that actually wasn't what they told you that
it was. And so then, that should call
into question the entire narrative that you bought
into.
So thanks for, you know, just the tireless
work that you do trying to keep up
with these, daily breakdowns. Yeah. I just wanna
encourage everybody as I have been doing that.
Ultimately, like, don't fall into the fear propaganda.
World War three, maybe it's gonna happen, maybe
it's not. I put a poll up the
other day on social media asking people's thoughts
like, how many of you actually believe
that the, say, the Western
block of Israel, US, UK,
12 I 12 eyes nations,
five eyes, etcetera, and
the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese, North Korea.
How many people truly believe that they do
not get along with and some people seem
to believe it's all a charade and there's,
you know, no disagreements and they're hanging out,
sipping champagne behind the scenes. I think that
there's some version of that. I think these
people tend to have ideological and cultural differences
that do exist and sometimes might create real
world conflict but I always try to remind
people too that at the end of the
day, 99 times out of a 100, the
predator class are going to work with each
other. They're going to agree with each other.
And I stand with
the Israeli people who are just fighting for
freedom and the Palestinian people of course, not
the people who bought into propaganda and want
the Palestinians dead or the people who are
vice versa,
the American people, the Iranian people who are
just trying to live their lives. I don't
stand with or support the Iranian government or
the Israeli government or the US government and
on and on and on. And I think
that is the worst part is that when
these conflicts happen, even just this bombing back
and forth for twelve days or whatever, you
know, they're calling it now the twelve day
war.
The ceasefire obviously hasn't held. Real people are
dying. Like real people are dying and innocent
people are being caught up in the mix.
And that is what I try to remember
and hold on to is like, we're we
should remain skeptical. We should continue to try
to decipher things. And yes, it's probably a
good idea to have some food stored away
or to kinda have a plan for whatever
good it might do.
You know, for hard times ahead but don't
buy into the propaganda and remember that the
system and these people who run it, they
want us hating the other whether that's Doctor.
Right. Doctor. The Israelis or the Jews or
the Iranians
or whatever.
And at the same time, sure, there are
some Iranians that chant death to America. You
don't have to embrace that to understand they
have good reason to feel that way. American
policy for the last seventy years in their
countries interfering, intervening in the Middle East, military
intervention,
false flags. You know, all that stuff does
is breed new
terrorists. You know, it breeds new people Right.
Doctor. Who rightfully or wrongfully
feel like they want to get vengeance for
what happened to their families and to their,
you know, their children and that's a big
part of the problem. You know, The US
war machine is creating
this feedback loop of people who
want to respond and want to
react. And then, what do we do? We
call them terrorists, and then we wanna send
more bombs, and more soldiers, and things like
that. And so, just remember that that there
are real humans involved in this, and we
should do our best not to get lost
in the war propaganda because it's ramping back
up like post nine eleven again.
Well, here, here, man. A great great point
to end on. And I I think it's,
you know, here to the first part about
calling it out and definitely agree that that
is, you know, at least the propaganda is
ramping up. And, you know, I I think
that we've been in a state of of
multi multi nation war for a long time,
whatever you wanna call that. But what we're
worried about is the collective kind of shove
into both the, like, propagandized
acknowledgement of whatever you wanna call World War
three because that will signify some kind of
new direction, but also just the ongoing
war crimes that are committed every moment we're
talking right now by the people who are
acting like they're trying to push peace. You
know? And that goes for anybody. You know?
It is literally everywhere you look, and I
think people are finally starting to find the
courage to call it out. So and thank
you for all the tireless tire tireless effort
and work you put in as well, Derek,
because it just you know, it it's it
is a never ending job as you know,
and it's never you know, it never feels
like you're doing enough, but it's like we
have to just keep pushing because, you know,
I I really do genuinely think we make
a difference with everything that we do. And,
I mean, I'm talking to everybody out there
doing it. You reach people. Don't forget that.
Absolutely. And I'll I'll leave Thanks for having
me on, man. As yeah. Always, man. I
really do appreciate our conversations. I really find
it we we always you know, I think
we help more people to kind of put
put things in place, myself included, you know,
when we kind of overlap ideas. I'll end
with a a video from the army about
the whole psyop dynamic. Those don't forget the
argument of, you know, the world's a stage,
like, they're you're all actors in our play
kind of a sentiment from the Israeli intelligence.
Well, our army or just The US intelligence
also has a very similar view about how
the world plays out and think about how
this view might reflect on everything else we
discussed today. So, thank you, Derek. Can you
give a shout out before we go?
No. Just, you know, thank you for having
me on. I will be releasing the next
final episodes of the Pyramid of Power very
soon. So for those who are looking out
for that, stay tuned. Thanks for everybody who's
been supporting and stay tuned for more of
my work at theconsciousresistance.com.
Doctor. And last, America, Bagmont. We're not we're
not going away from that just yet. We
have plenty more Doctor. Yeah. Doctor. Articles coming
your way. I'm determined about that. As well
as the fluoride, follow-up coming up your way.
So Absolutely. Thank you. As always, everybody out
there question everything. Come to your own conclusions.
Stay vigilant.
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