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Welcome to the last American Vagabond. Joining me

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again today is Derrick Rose to discuss just

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whatever the hell is going on in the

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world today. We haven't talked in a minute.

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There's so much, you know, really some very

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clear developments and stuff that we've been covering

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pretty extensively that we just wanted to connect

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on. I wanted to get his thoughts on

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certain things like Palantir, detachment two zero one,

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possibly the war is going on, but just

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to connect in general to kinda just touch

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base and see, you know, how he's perceiving

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some of the different events, what's going on

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in Iran, foreign policy. So, Derek, how are

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you today? I'm doing great, brother. Thanks for

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having me back.

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Yep. Always a pleasure, my friend. So I

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think what's a good place to start in

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general is, obviously, the Palantir conversation is an

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interesting development. You know? We there's it's not

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it's not I mean, obviously, part of it

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is sort of like, you know, we tried

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to warn everybody kind of a moment, but

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at the same time, it's not so much

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about, you know it it's about highlighting that

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it's a story that has clearly developed, you

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know, in a lot of ways like a

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lot of us were highlighting, but then the

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way it's been dealt with, I find really

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revealing. And I just wanna your thoughts on

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that, like, what the way that you know?

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Because this this became, like, a legitimate mainstream

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story. Like, exactly what we were trying to

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highlight, what you've been highlighting for a long

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time, and not just the abstract, like, technocracy

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discussion, but specifically how Palantir played a role,

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Peter Thiel, the connection to Trump's administration.

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And, you know, the the we talked about

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the black pill purity test point before the

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selection, how people responded to that. But then

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this worked its way into, like, legitimate, like,

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on the front page kind of conversation and

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then the way the mainstream alternative media responded

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to it. So, you you know, what are

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your kind of feelings about that? And start

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where you're wanting that. You can talk about

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Palantir, but I wanna get into how you

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feel about the way people responded to it

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becoming

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so obvious.

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Yeah. It's been interesting to see that for

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one, And, of course, the the main way

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that everybody or a lot of people, especially

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in the kind of mainstream world, were learning

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about it was from The New York Times

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report

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about the Gotham program that local police are

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using as well as,

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the sort of Trump executive order, which I

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know we both reported on, individually,

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which was meant to

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create less separation between federal agencies.

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And I've been kind of

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couching that development in the terms of this

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is part of the post September

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report that said, well, we need to make

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sure these agencies can communicate with each other

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because according to the official version of events,

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the reason the nine eleven attacks happen is

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because, well, the FBI had some information, the

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CIA had some information, but legally, they're not

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allowed to speak and communicate. So we need

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to tear down those walls and make sure

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that we can have more, you know, streamlined

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conversation.

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And so Trump's executive order,

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was about that. It was about separating these

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organizations, these government agencies, which are kind of

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siloed in their own,

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areas and making it more streamlined, making so

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that the data could come, you know, across

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different agencies. And that's the role that Palantir

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is helping with. So that was kinda like

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the mainstream version of events. Obviously, they didn't

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really put it in the deeper context. But

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still, even that, that got a lot of

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headlines. And the first reaction that I saw,

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particularly from MAGA,

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was to deny it. You know? Oh, this

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is New York Times. This is just coming

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from some anonymous sources or what you know,

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they did whatever they could just sort of

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downplay it. And to me, it's like and

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I'm sure you and others, it's like, well,

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this is what we've been saying, and and

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there's so much more. So that was interesting,

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but not surprising to see MAGA trying to

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just kinda deflect and say, no. No. No.

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This isn't you know, this is just mainstream

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garbage or it's just left wing, propaganda. In

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fact, they actually talk about

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window.

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Yeah. Exactly. And I Here again, you know,

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it became it became obvious that you couldn't

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deny it, that this was Mhmm. A fact.

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Right? So then the goalpost kinda switched. And

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you see I talked about this in my

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show last night. Like, Alex Jones and for

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wars,

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did a, you know, whole thing trying to

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say, well,

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two things. One thing, I saw them in

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general trying to downplay the role that Palantir

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plays and just be like, well, we've all

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known about Palantir. I don't know why people

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are making a big deal.

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But I also saw on m four wars,

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they they put out an article. One one

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of the few articles they they wrote about

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Bilderberg this year, obviously, Peter Thiel and Alex

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Karp, steering committee members of the Bilderberg group

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as well as cofounders of Palantir.

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That conversation's pretty much been, you know, devoid

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and and just absent and, MAGA and kind

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of the right leaning so called independent media,

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including Infowars.

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And I've seen them, particularly Alex Jones, trying

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to say that the peep the only people

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who are really upset about this are the

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left leaning mainstream media and,

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George Soros

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and the big tech companies that are mad

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that they're not getting the contracts that Palantir

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is getting. So he just tried to totally

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downplay. Like, this is just some jealous companies

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and leftist. This isn't anything real to worry

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about.

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And and to point out that he made

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the clear point that which is just flatly

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incorrect, that it was they were angry because

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they were using it just to to

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hold the government accountable

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despite the fact that it was exactly the

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opposite of this pile of information was personal

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data.

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it's all of the data, that's not how

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it's being applied. It's not some guard dog,

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you know, watchdog against what the government's doing.

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So, to argue it was just the left

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thing, and that was probably the most embarrassing

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of all the kind of side steps because

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it was just simply incorrect. And then that

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went away as well. Yeah, exactly.

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it's such a trip to what? Not surprising,

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like I said, I'm not surprised anymore by

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the people I see who, in my mind,

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are selling out principle and selling out what

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they claim to believe in the past. But,

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yeah, to try to downplay it and say,

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well, it's not as bad as people claim.

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q and on types out there saying,

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this is actually a trap that has been

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set for the deep state. And Palantir is

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not being used to spy on the people,

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but it's used to spy on the government.

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And they're slowly gathering up all the data

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they need, and then soon, the tribunals and

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all that same old stuff people are still

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trying to bring back. How long have that

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been now? We're we're going on like Yeah.

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Twenty years. How old is that too big?

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Crazy.

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And then, of course, there's the part of

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me there's the part of me that's like,

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okay. Well, more people are talking about Palantir.

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You and I and Whitney and James and

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others have been talking about this for for

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years now. And, okay, it's probably a positive

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development that Palantir is trending that, you know,

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I was getting invited to go on Jimmy

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Dore's show to talk about Palantir and some

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other big platforms that are finally ready to

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talk about it and almost to the point

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of, like, saturation where it's, like, it's everywhere.

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And that sometimes naturally brings up skepticism. I've

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seen some people in in the in the

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online chatter saying,

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you know, we should be skeptical of why

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they're allowing us to talk about this now.

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Could it be a distraction for something else?

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Or is it just that Palantir is kinda

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being offered up and sort of sacrificed? Well,

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they know about Palantir, so let's just throw

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them out there, and then, you know, some

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other company is gonna become more important. Obviously,

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we don't know any of those things just

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yet. It'll time might, you know, make that

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more clear to us.

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people talk about Palantir where they weren't before,

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I still think that the company and the

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role they're playing

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is absolutely something we should be paying attention

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to because the articles I wrote for TLAB

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before the election,

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including,

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election twenty twenty four, Zionist technocrats versus Zionist

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technocrats,

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I pointed out and showed all these things

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and showed how there was pretty pretty clear

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that Peter Thiel was gonna have a major

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influence and Palantir would have a major influence,

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not only because of JD Vance but because

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of Trump's history with Peter

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Thiel. And then, of course, as soon as

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the picks started to come in, I wrote

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the article, Meet the Peter Thiel acolytes in

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Trump's second administration. Yeah. There's the one prior

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to the election that I took a lot

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of flack for and people wanted to ignore.

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And then that one, meet the Peter Thiel

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acolytes, and that was I think I identified

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eight to 10 of those. And then the

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one after that, meet welcome to the Palantir

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world order, we found up to, like, 15

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to 20 people who were all related to,

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Palantir, Peter Thiel, you know, worked for his

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companies or worked for Palantir directly and working

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with Doge and and all this sort of

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thing. So none of this is surprising. In

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fact, this is what's been most disappointing to

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me is, okay, it's being talked about in

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the mainstream. Great. We expect the mainstream to

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do a shallow job, and that's what they

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did. But the independent media,

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the alleged independent media, it's like, okay, I'm

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glad more people are talking about it. And,

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thankfully, some people are ready to have the

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deeper discussion. But the folks like Alex Jones

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and others in the MAGA

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media are doing their best to just downplay

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it. So I actually did a search. I

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went to, Infowars yesterday and searched Bilderberg 2025,

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searched Peter Thiel, just kinda to see what

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has been the most recent reporting,

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from Alex Jones. Again, this is the guy

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who used to hold protests at the Bilderberg

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group and go bullhorn them, and rightfully so,

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and call out this stuff. And now there's

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literally no articles on his,

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on his website that draw that connection, that

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distinction.

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I'll give them credit. They put Dan Dix's

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confrontation of Peter Thiel on their website, but

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still, they had this kind of editor's note

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on there that I mentioned that said, Alex

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Jones has been calling out the surveillance state

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for a long time and just did the

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whole downplaying. Only George Soros and Google and

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other companies are worried about just, you know,

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did their best to kind of, like if

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anybody started to think, well, wait. Isn't Peter

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Thiel part of the Bilderberg group? And I

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thought Alex Jones was against that. You know,

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just trying to sort of circumvent anybody who

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might question that narrative that it's not as

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big a deal as people, are making it

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out to be. So it's been disappointing that

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people don't wanna go as deep as they

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should.

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I've seen this, and this is not unique

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to him or any, you know, one group,

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but it's very common these days where, you

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know, you'll make a lot of other suggestive

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points or rather most of your coverage very

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clearly drives people toward a certain mindset, but

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then a tweet will go out about, you

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know, this might be a false flag. Even

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though everything else you've been saying points the

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other direction, you know, then that gets pointed

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to as I knew it. We were right.

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You know? And it's like that's that's a

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very common tactic. And it and it only

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works on people that already choose to believe

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in you regardless of the outcome, precedent, what

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actually is being proven. And so that's what

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I see that as, you know, as sort

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of a way to get people to think

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that's really what the you know, push it

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to look at Dan Dix doing this. That

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means we're on that side even though you've

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done everything else you could to downplay that,

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to hide that connection, to make Palantir a

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leftist thing that's not actually doing what it's

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doing. You know? That that's really important to

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consider. Just trying to save

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face. Yeah. Yeah. I think so. Or I

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think it's more about trying to cement this

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ongoing narrative that somehow you're the one fighting

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these things while you're really doing the best

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job of cementing them, allowing people to ignore

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the real problem. And I think that's the

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biggest issue is people are it's the identity

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politics, the woke left and right. It's the

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cultural identity stuff. You know, it's it's everywhere.

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I just wanna add to that just briefly.

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I mean, obviously, it's relating to Palantir as

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we're discussing here, but just in the kind

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of broader terms of people who prior to

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the election and I won't name all the

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names I could name, but I will name

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a couple names like Dave Smith, Luke Rakowski,

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with Clint Russell over at Liberty Lockdown. There's

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a few other people who have sizable platforms

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and, you know, claim to be libertarian

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or kind of beyond the left right paradigm

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to some extent.

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They're not willing to go on every topic,

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but to some extent. Right? But prior to

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the election, sure, they didn't necessarily I mean,

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some of them did wholeheartedly endorse Trump and

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said, you know, hey. It's gonna be better

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than Kamala. Others sort of gritted their teeth

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and said, yeah. I don't like him because

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of this and that, but he's still the

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better option. And others were even more subtle

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where they didn't necessarily fully on endorse Trump,

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but they definitely did a lot of airtime

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dedicated to how stupid the Democrats are and

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how, you know, dumb the left is. And

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then kind of highlighting, well, Trump seems to

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say the opposite, which to me is over

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even more maybe nefarious because it's more subtle,

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and the listener is just being shown these

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very still kind of binary,

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perspective of it. Now a lot of those

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folks are like, hey. Well, of course, Trump's

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a bad guy. You know, Iran war. This

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is all bad news and technocracy and all

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the things I know we're gonna get into

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further today.

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It's like now they're ready to report on

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that. And I see some people saying, Derek,

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you know, get off your high horse or

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quit stroking your ego. Because, you know, there's

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some some level of just to be real,

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like, on a human level of like, Yeah,

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I told you so. We told you so.

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And that doesn't give me any kind of

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like, Oh, I'm patting myself on the back.

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I can fact, I would love to be

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wrong. I would love to be like sitting

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here and be like, Dang. We're wrong. Then

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they were they were right. Like, Trump is

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actually

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fighting the deep state and you know, maybe

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I misunderstood. I misread the tea leaves or

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whatever. But Doctor. Because we want positive outcomes,

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outcomes, Derek. That's why. We we want a

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positive outcome. We don't want to be right.

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We know if we that's we'd rather be

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wrong and have the right thing happen than

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the other way around.

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Exactly. So it's not even it's like, of

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course, a part of me is like, alright.

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Feels good that my analysis and, you know,

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all of us, it's like, was accurate, and

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that's one thing. But I think in a

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bigger picture, it's not just about stroking our

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egos or anything like that. It's for me,

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what matters is that, like you said, we

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genuinely do care about the future of humanity.

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I care about the principles that I hold,

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the principles of individual liberty, and it saddens

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me and angers me to watch people,

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who are influencers or, you know, claim to

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be journalists

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who use the influence that they have and

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then whether willingly or just ignorantly because they

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don't wanna listen to us because we're just

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black pill, we're just negative, we're just doomers

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when we were trying to say, look, both

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sides are being funded by the same people.

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Don't expect different results from Trump or Harris.

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People didn't wanna hear it. And so it's

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a little bit frustrating now after the fact

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for everybody to be jumping on the bandwagon.

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And and now they're sort of also, I

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think, trying to rewrite a little bit of

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history and act

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like they were always, you know, calling this

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stuff out, and they've always been about this.

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And I didn't endorse Trump. Yeah. But you

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sure spent a lot of time focused on

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the other side and how dumb they are

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and kind of subtly making this allude this

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appearance that, well, this side's all dumb. And,

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Hey, Trump did something good over here. And

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completely ignoring all the warning signs. Doctor. It's

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the same thing they call out in the

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left in COVID nineteen. You know, partisanship has

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a really difficult time with self reflection, I've

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noticed. You know, like recognizing the same fault,

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the same hypocrisy in themselves that they point

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out on the other side. I think that's

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part of the design, you know, and that's

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it's a block. I mean, my biggest issue

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with that general discussion is people that I've

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talked to that I know

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at least,

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you know, wax intellectual about the two party

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illusion, right, will talk about and acknowledge

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the very clear deception, and then every day,

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they play into it. And I don't mean

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just, like, you know, theorizing. I mean, like,

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playing into the illusory

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the the false binary. You know? And that's

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that's what gives me the most frustration. You

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know? It's like, you know better, man. But,

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you know Like, people who are now like,

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well, now that we see what Trump's doing,

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I'm gonna vote a full democrat. That'll show

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the system. You know? I'm gonna go and

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vote vote on the democrats in the midterm.

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Do you did you take that seriously? We

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don't have to get into who it was

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unless you want to. But did you take

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that seriously, or did you think that that

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was sort of a like a joke? I

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couldn't read it. I wasn't sure which way

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because it felt real. And I was like,

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that's a crazy thing to say right now.

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I thought it was real. I know we're

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talking about the same person, and we don't

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need to get into, you know because and

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I wanna say this. Like, there's some people

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who I do think deserve to be called

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out. That's why I mentioned Luke and Dave

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and some of these other people. And that's,

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of course, each to us. Each each selective

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on our own preferences.

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There's other people who maybe I give a

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little bit of benefit of doubt or in

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private conversations, I might say, yeah. So and

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so is maybe kind of lost their way.

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But this particular person is a journalist, is

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a is a, you know, somebody who is

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exactly what you were just describing, just called

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out the left and the right, and then

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kind of maybe joking, but it didn't seem

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like a joke saying, well, I'm gonna, you

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know, show them by voting straight Democrat in

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the midterms and teach them a lesson or

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something like that.

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And to me, I'm just like, Oh, my

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God. This is we're going to do the

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same thing again in four years, aren't we?

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We're going to watch the same thing happen

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again. There's going to be some new

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populist hero that will emerge on the left

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or the right and promise to fix everything

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bad that Trump did, and it's just gonna

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keep going back and forth. That is definitely

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one of the more frustrating things, whether or

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not that particular person

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was,

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joking or being sarcastic.

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There are people who will think that way.

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There are absolute people who will think that

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the best now maybe they won't go vote

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full on Democrat because

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and and even in that case, I don't

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know what's better. I mean, what do you

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think about this man? Because some people are

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like, well, yeah, Trump did some bad things,

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but,

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I'm still gonna vote for Republicans in the

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next thing. And and then that's obviously not

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very principled. There doesn't make much sense. But

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then to think

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voting for the other side full on is

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somehow gonna, you know, achieve your ends, like,

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it just neither one of them seem to

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be thinking too deeply about the outcomes.

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Well, this is why Dave you know, like,

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the last selection product, we it's more important

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than ever to argue, you know, or at

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least hope the you know, to give people

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the tools to consider

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why another path might be the right path.

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And there's many we could talk about. We've

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talked about many times. You know, and that's

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why that's becoming more popular, and I think

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why the whole system is feeling desperate and

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vulnerable because people are finally asking these questions.

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And just to put a point down it

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since we branched it, we went we went

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over it, we're talking about Kim Iverson. Correct?

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That's the person we're referring to in that

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tweet. And I I think she my gut

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tells me that she was kind of joking,

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but that's the point is I couldn't tell.

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And the reason I thought it was so

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relevant you know, because I do I do

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also agree she does good work, and I

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don't agree with everything, but she calls out,

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but she you know, it's objective, like a

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Glenn Greenwald who has clearly shown himself to

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stand with principles when it comes to the

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left right paradigm,

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criticize everything else. We all will too. There's

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plenty of things to question. But what's interesting

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00:17:00,274 --> 00:17:00,995
is what

518
00:17:01,555 --> 00:17:03,955
this came out with, Jimmy Dore the last

519
00:17:03,955 --> 00:17:04,410
time.

520
00:17:04,809 --> 00:17:06,490
And like I said then, even if you

521
00:17:06,490 --> 00:17:08,090
do even if they really mean that or

522
00:17:08,090 --> 00:17:09,210
if you really mean that, the point is

523
00:17:09,210 --> 00:17:10,650
there's there is a level of logic to

524
00:17:10,650 --> 00:17:12,410
it. I disagree with it. But that like,

525
00:17:12,410 --> 00:17:14,809
for example, Jimmy said, at the time, out

526
00:17:14,809 --> 00:17:16,170
of all your arguments, this is the one

527
00:17:16,170 --> 00:17:17,529
that I said, okay. Well, at least there's

528
00:17:17,529 --> 00:17:19,454
some logic to it, that he's gonna vote,

529
00:17:19,934 --> 00:17:22,335
for Republican, for Trump, because why is he

530
00:17:22,335 --> 00:17:24,734
gonna reward the party that committed the genocide?

531
00:17:24,734 --> 00:17:26,974
Because Trump, at that time, hadn't technically been

532
00:17:26,974 --> 00:17:28,414
part of the genocide. Right? So he is

533
00:17:28,414 --> 00:17:30,414
now, obviously. But so he that made sense

534
00:17:30,414 --> 00:17:31,774
to me. Even though I disagree, I know

535
00:17:31,774 --> 00:17:33,359
it's a trap, I still said, okay. At

536
00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,359
least the logic is there. Everyone else, like,

537
00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,359
she's gonna be worse is just frustrating. So

538
00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,839
now it it's I almost felt like that

539
00:17:39,839 --> 00:17:41,119
was her making a joke of that. Right?

540
00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:42,480
Where now I'm just gonna vote the other

541
00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,320
way. That I hope so. Her past record,

542
00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:45,440
that's what I took from it. But, you

543
00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:46,960
know, we should since we talked about the

544
00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,255
NFL report, just point that out. Yeah. And

545
00:17:49,255 --> 00:17:51,335
just in case this clip makes its way

546
00:17:51,335 --> 00:17:53,494
to Kim, like, of course, I'm super grateful

547
00:17:53,494 --> 00:17:54,775
for the things you've done for having me

548
00:17:54,775 --> 00:17:56,134
on your show. And I know, Ryan, you've,

549
00:17:56,295 --> 00:17:58,075
you've interviewed with her as well.

550
00:17:58,615 --> 00:18:00,214
You know, so it's not I'm not trying

551
00:18:00,214 --> 00:18:01,674
to just shit on

552
00:18:01,980 --> 00:18:03,579
on on you, Kim, or or her or

553
00:18:03,579 --> 00:18:05,179
her work or anything like that. But I

554
00:18:05,179 --> 00:18:06,539
do think that is a big part of

555
00:18:06,539 --> 00:18:07,980
the problem. And I know that when I've

556
00:18:07,980 --> 00:18:10,460
spoken with her and other people, and I

557
00:18:10,460 --> 00:18:11,819
get to the point of saying, like, look,

558
00:18:11,819 --> 00:18:13,500
politics isn't gonna save us, you know, and

559
00:18:13,500 --> 00:18:15,019
I have my own theories and ideas, and

560
00:18:15,019 --> 00:18:16,619
I'm not claiming those are the only way

561
00:18:16,619 --> 00:18:17,119
towards,

562
00:18:17,904 --> 00:18:20,625
freedom. But I definitely feel like at this

563
00:18:20,625 --> 00:18:22,384
point, you know, I'm a 40 year old

564
00:18:22,384 --> 00:18:24,464
adult. I've watched this happen since I was

565
00:18:24,464 --> 00:18:26,384
18. The first time I ever voted, I

566
00:18:26,384 --> 00:18:28,305
voted for John Kerry. The only time I

567
00:18:28,305 --> 00:18:30,384
ever voted because I was anti war against

568
00:18:30,384 --> 00:18:32,244
George Bush. This is twenty two years ago.

569
00:18:32,579 --> 00:18:34,579
Twenty years ago, you know, and, it didn't

570
00:18:34,579 --> 00:18:36,259
take but one time of doing that to

571
00:18:36,259 --> 00:18:38,019
realize like, oh my god, this is just

572
00:18:38,019 --> 00:18:40,019
back and forth, back and forth. Right? So

573
00:18:40,019 --> 00:18:42,200
when we see people who are clearly intelligent

574
00:18:42,259 --> 00:18:44,039
and clearly informed and and,

575
00:18:44,819 --> 00:18:46,445
you know, spend a lot of time doing

576
00:18:46,445 --> 00:18:48,365
this work that we do as well. It's

577
00:18:48,365 --> 00:18:50,045
just hard for me to to see how

578
00:18:50,045 --> 00:18:51,884
people can keep playing in that trap. And

579
00:18:51,884 --> 00:18:53,325
I understand what you're saying as well that,

580
00:18:53,325 --> 00:18:54,924
okay, it makes some sense and some logic

581
00:18:54,924 --> 00:18:56,684
within the two party paradigm of, like, well,

582
00:18:56,684 --> 00:18:58,525
if this party is doing bad, I'm gonna,

583
00:18:58,525 --> 00:19:00,299
you know, punish them by voting for the

584
00:19:00,299 --> 00:19:02,220
other side. But I think that's also just

585
00:19:02,220 --> 00:19:04,539
the fundamental flaws that like we're still playing

586
00:19:04,539 --> 00:19:07,659
within their context of the predator classes game.

587
00:19:07,659 --> 00:19:09,679
You know, it's like I've said this before.

588
00:19:09,740 --> 00:19:11,259
They know how to handle us if we

589
00:19:11,259 --> 00:19:11,759
protest,

590
00:19:12,105 --> 00:19:13,944
if you march, if you rally, if you

591
00:19:13,944 --> 00:19:15,384
go out and try to be violent. They

592
00:19:15,384 --> 00:19:16,664
know how to handle that. They'll round you

593
00:19:16,664 --> 00:19:17,944
up, they'll lock you up, they'll shut you

594
00:19:17,944 --> 00:19:20,265
down, whatever. They know how to handle voting.

595
00:19:20,265 --> 00:19:22,424
They'll just rig the elections as I think

596
00:19:22,424 --> 00:19:25,005
most elections are actuals actually selections.

597
00:19:25,399 --> 00:19:27,559
They'll continue to prop up puppets in front

598
00:19:27,559 --> 00:19:29,240
of you. But what they don't know how

599
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,559
to handle is us removing our consent and

600
00:19:31,559 --> 00:19:33,159
saying, alright. Well, then I'm not gonna play

601
00:19:33,159 --> 00:19:34,359
anymore. And, you know, I did a video

602
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,599
about this after the election too that once

603
00:19:36,599 --> 00:19:37,099
again,

604
00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:38,220
the largest,

605
00:19:39,464 --> 00:19:41,944
demographic across The United States was nonvoters. It

606
00:19:41,944 --> 00:19:43,545
was Right. Even with, you know, them saying

607
00:19:43,545 --> 00:19:45,325
this is a historic election and,

608
00:19:45,704 --> 00:19:48,105
you know, more people did vote maybe than

609
00:19:48,105 --> 00:19:50,585
previous years. But still, in the broader context,

610
00:19:50,585 --> 00:19:53,109
that's not really much. There's still the vast

611
00:19:53,109 --> 00:19:54,710
majority of the country who is not voting.

612
00:19:54,710 --> 00:19:56,069
And that doesn't mean they're all kind of

613
00:19:56,069 --> 00:19:57,509
on the same page as you or I

614
00:19:57,509 --> 00:20:00,309
are on. But there at least, there there

615
00:20:00,309 --> 00:20:02,150
may be some levels of apathy or they're

616
00:20:02,150 --> 00:20:05,049
just dissatisfied with the choices, things like that.

617
00:20:05,275 --> 00:20:07,214
That does give me some hope that maybe

618
00:20:07,434 --> 00:20:09,595
more people could recognize that politics isn't the

619
00:20:09,595 --> 00:20:11,214
answer. And then, well, how do we actually

620
00:20:11,434 --> 00:20:13,035
take care of ourselves? That's a whole another

621
00:20:13,035 --> 00:20:14,494
conversation that we've had before.

622
00:20:14,954 --> 00:20:16,634
But to me, it's just like we if

623
00:20:16,634 --> 00:20:19,615
we continue to see journalists and influencers and

624
00:20:20,170 --> 00:20:22,349
podcast hosts and talking heads on the internet,

625
00:20:22,730 --> 00:20:24,809
just keep pushing their audience in that direction.

626
00:20:24,809 --> 00:20:25,930
I mean, this is why I've been calling

627
00:20:25,930 --> 00:20:27,309
for some level of accountability,

628
00:20:27,930 --> 00:20:28,430
not

629
00:20:28,809 --> 00:20:30,330
in that sense of like, let's, you know,

630
00:20:30,330 --> 00:20:32,089
let's round them all up and put them

631
00:20:32,089 --> 00:20:33,289
to death or put them in, you know,

632
00:20:33,289 --> 00:20:34,890
cast them out of society or something like

633
00:20:34,890 --> 00:20:37,255
that. But, yes, I think it is important

634
00:20:37,394 --> 00:20:38,054
to know

635
00:20:38,434 --> 00:20:40,994
who was shilling for Trump and ignoring the

636
00:20:40,994 --> 00:20:42,755
evidence that you and I and Whitney and

637
00:20:42,755 --> 00:20:45,714
others could clearly see and sending their massive

638
00:20:45,714 --> 00:20:47,954
audiences of hundreds of thousands or millions of

639
00:20:47,954 --> 00:20:50,049
people to go vote for Trump. And Ian

640
00:20:50,049 --> 00:20:51,329
Carroll, of course, is one of these people.

641
00:20:51,329 --> 00:20:52,529
Him and I have gone back and forth

642
00:20:52,529 --> 00:20:54,289
over that. And I told him these things

643
00:20:54,289 --> 00:20:55,889
would happen before the election and here we

644
00:20:55,889 --> 00:20:57,809
are. Now, he's like, Palantir, this and that.

645
00:20:57,809 --> 00:20:59,490
It's like, come on, bro. I mean, did

646
00:20:59,490 --> 00:21:01,250
you you got this you knew this ahead

647
00:21:01,250 --> 00:21:03,595
of time. And I'm not gonna fault people

648
00:21:03,654 --> 00:21:05,974
totally for wanting to believe or wanting to

649
00:21:05,974 --> 00:21:08,054
have some level of hope, but we've said

650
00:21:08,054 --> 00:21:11,254
before on this, show and on different Independent

651
00:21:11,254 --> 00:21:14,099
Media Alliance panels that it's actually not. It's

652
00:21:14,099 --> 00:21:16,179
a white pill to accept that politicians aren't

653
00:21:16,179 --> 00:21:17,460
gonna come save you. It's not a black

654
00:21:17,460 --> 00:21:19,619
pill. It's not doomer to just to kind

655
00:21:19,619 --> 00:21:21,140
of step up and be an adult about

656
00:21:21,140 --> 00:21:23,059
the situation and say, look, we can't trust

657
00:21:23,059 --> 00:21:24,339
these people. I have to take care of

658
00:21:24,339 --> 00:21:26,099
myself. Now, how do I step into that

659
00:21:26,099 --> 00:21:28,424
space as an empowered person instead of being

660
00:21:28,424 --> 00:21:30,105
like, Well, okay. They're not coming to save

661
00:21:30,105 --> 00:21:31,884
us so I guess everything screwed.

662
00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:34,184
That's the actual black pill. The people who

663
00:21:34,184 --> 00:21:35,784
bought into that, that like, Well, if Trump's

664
00:21:35,784 --> 00:21:37,384
not a hero, if QAnon's a cya, well

665
00:21:37,384 --> 00:21:39,224
then, we're just you know, I heard this

666
00:21:39,224 --> 00:21:41,539
before the election. Alright, Derek. I hear what

667
00:21:41,539 --> 00:21:44,519
you're saying. Okay. Bilderberg Group, Palantir, Peter Thiel,

668
00:21:44,900 --> 00:21:46,900
but I'm still gonna try with Trump. Because

669
00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:48,740
if Trump isn't a hero and if he

670
00:21:48,740 --> 00:21:50,820
doesn't win, it's gonna be full on communism.

671
00:21:50,820 --> 00:21:52,200
It's gonna be full on totalitarianism.

672
00:21:52,660 --> 00:21:54,674
So people put all their hope in, like,

673
00:21:54,835 --> 00:21:56,535
this one person or this one movement.

674
00:21:56,835 --> 00:21:59,075
And if that's not true, then everything's lost.

675
00:21:59,075 --> 00:22:01,475
But in fact, no, nothing it's it it

676
00:22:01,634 --> 00:22:03,235
yes, we have to accept that, but that

677
00:22:03,235 --> 00:22:04,835
doesn't mean all is lost. It means that

678
00:22:04,835 --> 00:22:06,835
the power is back in your hands. And

679
00:22:06,835 --> 00:22:09,569
instead of outsourcing your freedom, you're in fight

680
00:22:09,569 --> 00:22:12,069
for sovereignty, you have to take personal responsibility.

681
00:22:12,130 --> 00:22:13,410
And I think that's scary for a lot

682
00:22:13,410 --> 00:22:14,230
of people too.

683
00:22:14,529 --> 00:22:17,089
Yeah. Most definitely. I mean, self responsibility is,

684
00:22:17,089 --> 00:22:18,929
like, the most important tenant of any, you

685
00:22:18,929 --> 00:22:20,529
know, whatever you wanna call it. This in

686
00:22:20,529 --> 00:22:22,929
this self, you know, representative government or whatever

687
00:22:22,929 --> 00:22:25,274
we feel we exist in, it's absolutely important

688
00:22:25,274 --> 00:22:26,815
that we do that. You know? Because clearly,

689
00:22:26,875 --> 00:22:27,355
they will

690
00:22:27,994 --> 00:22:29,534
power structures will manufacture

691
00:22:29,835 --> 00:22:32,075
situations as we all acknowledge, at least in

692
00:22:32,075 --> 00:22:33,434
part of the other side or however you

693
00:22:33,434 --> 00:22:34,714
wanna look at it. We all acknowledge it

694
00:22:34,714 --> 00:22:35,214
exists

695
00:22:35,674 --> 00:22:37,755
to create circumstances that drive you into the

696
00:22:37,755 --> 00:22:39,115
places they need you to be. Now some

697
00:22:39,115 --> 00:22:41,369
point in some part of the world, maybe

698
00:22:41,369 --> 00:22:42,730
they think they're doing it for the right

699
00:22:42,730 --> 00:22:44,490
reasons. It doesn't change the reality of what

700
00:22:44,490 --> 00:22:46,089
we're discussing, you know, and that we have

701
00:22:46,089 --> 00:22:48,329
to start con considering how that could be

702
00:22:48,329 --> 00:22:50,169
played out or how they could be played

703
00:22:50,169 --> 00:22:51,625
without knowing it. You know, it's just it

704
00:22:51,625 --> 00:22:54,025
is self responsibility, but this whole system, it's

705
00:22:54,025 --> 00:22:56,424
like it's creating this learned helplessness where, you

706
00:22:56,424 --> 00:22:58,424
know, well, yeah, it like, maybe that'll be

707
00:22:58,424 --> 00:23:00,105
in the future, but right now, it's just

708
00:23:00,105 --> 00:23:01,625
so bad that we have to versus, you

709
00:23:01,625 --> 00:23:03,304
know, one versus the other. You know, it's

710
00:23:03,304 --> 00:23:06,180
engineered helplessness, and we and it's so obvious.

711
00:23:06,180 --> 00:23:07,380
And I think Doctor. I'll get to that

712
00:23:07,380 --> 00:23:09,619
self ownership later, Derek. At some point, I'll

713
00:23:09,619 --> 00:23:11,539
do that. But right now, this is the

714
00:23:11,539 --> 00:23:13,140
only way to fix things. So, I'll put

715
00:23:13,140 --> 00:23:14,980
that offer in the future. Yeah. Maybe one

716
00:23:14,980 --> 00:23:16,279
day, I'll get to that. But

717
00:23:16,580 --> 00:23:17,940
this is what we have to do now.

718
00:23:17,940 --> 00:23:19,220
And I just wanted to add to what

719
00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:20,865
you're saying that I think it, again, I'll

720
00:23:20,865 --> 00:23:22,545
try to empathize with people. If we got

721
00:23:22,545 --> 00:23:24,224
psyops on top of psyops on top of

722
00:23:24,224 --> 00:23:26,005
psyops here. Right? And I get that it's

723
00:23:26,144 --> 00:23:28,384
difficult, and I'm not claiming to fully understand

724
00:23:28,384 --> 00:23:30,384
or know, a 100%. But what I have

725
00:23:30,384 --> 00:23:32,065
come to the conclusion, I think what you

726
00:23:32,065 --> 00:23:33,345
were just pointing out and we're seeing it

727
00:23:33,345 --> 00:23:35,265
in so many other areas, immigration and things

728
00:23:35,265 --> 00:23:37,599
like this, is I believe that the predator

729
00:23:37,599 --> 00:23:40,099
class, they put two or more

730
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,160
choices in front of us, and none of

731
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,680
them are good. You know? So just to

732
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,920
use immigration like, people think it's, like, the

733
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,680
the dichotomy of the binary is, like, well,

734
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,154
here's a bad choice, and the other one

735
00:23:49,234 --> 00:23:50,994
must be good or slightly better. But may

736
00:23:51,075 --> 00:23:52,835
a lot of people haven't considered what if

737
00:23:52,835 --> 00:23:55,234
all the choices were placed there on purpose

738
00:23:55,234 --> 00:23:56,515
and none of them are good for us?

739
00:23:56,515 --> 00:23:57,875
And none of them are actually good, but

740
00:23:57,875 --> 00:23:59,474
they want to make you choose one where

741
00:23:59,474 --> 00:24:01,795
they're gonna win either way. So the immigration

742
00:24:01,795 --> 00:24:04,259
thing, we know that immigration has been weaponized.

743
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:06,559
And for years, even before Biden, but definitely

744
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:07,619
during Biden's administration,

745
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,640
it was allowed to kinda get uncontrolled. I

746
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,160
also think at the same time, there's a

747
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,080
lot of right wing propaganda that has told

748
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,815
people Chinese agents have been sleeping in Iranian

749
00:24:16,815 --> 00:24:18,494
sleeper cells, and they're eating your dogs and

750
00:24:18,494 --> 00:24:19,775
your you know, all kinds of stuff that

751
00:24:19,775 --> 00:24:21,455
has later been proven to be false, but

752
00:24:21,455 --> 00:24:23,295
people believed it and bought into it. But,

753
00:24:23,295 --> 00:24:25,695
yes, immigration has been weaponized. And so that

754
00:24:25,695 --> 00:24:27,535
grows and festers. And then the people, of

755
00:24:27,535 --> 00:24:29,154
course, are like, well, we gotta do something.

756
00:24:29,220 --> 00:24:31,380
And then the options they're being presented with

757
00:24:31,380 --> 00:24:33,619
is elect Trump, and we're gonna have the

758
00:24:33,619 --> 00:24:36,019
largest deportation operation ever. We're gonna militarize the

759
00:24:36,019 --> 00:24:37,619
border. We're gonna ignore due process. We're gonna

760
00:24:37,619 --> 00:24:40,500
do whatever. And labeling everybody gang members, I

761
00:24:40,500 --> 00:24:42,200
think we can see why that's a dangerous

762
00:24:42,339 --> 00:24:42,839
direction.

763
00:24:43,299 --> 00:24:43,799
Or

764
00:24:44,204 --> 00:24:46,784
do nothing and just allow this immigration

765
00:24:47,244 --> 00:24:48,944
policy or lack of policy

766
00:24:49,244 --> 00:24:51,325
to just continue to fester and, you know,

767
00:24:51,325 --> 00:24:53,164
see where that goes. Right? So neither choice

768
00:24:53,164 --> 00:24:55,164
is really ideal. You don't have to be

769
00:24:55,164 --> 00:24:57,644
some open border, you know, radical leftist to

770
00:24:57,644 --> 00:25:00,440
see that, you know you know, the the

771
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,200
the current situation we're dealing with Trump is

772
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:03,640
not a good good idea. And you also

773
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,580
don't have to be some hard right conservative

774
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:07,160
to see that there is a problem with

775
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,640
immigration. Right? And so but what what's not

776
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,119
on the table is common sense solutions. Like,

777
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,144
hey. How about we end the warfare state,

778
00:25:14,144 --> 00:25:16,144
end the welfare state, and actually fix the

779
00:25:16,144 --> 00:25:18,224
immigration system so that people could get in

780
00:25:18,224 --> 00:25:19,585
in a timely manner, and you could bring

781
00:25:19,585 --> 00:25:21,264
in good people into the country who are

782
00:25:21,264 --> 00:25:23,105
just trying to live their lives and contribute.

783
00:25:23,105 --> 00:25:24,784
Right? That's not what's on the table. It's

784
00:25:24,784 --> 00:25:26,384
this one extreme of do nothing and let

785
00:25:26,384 --> 00:25:27,684
immigration just flow

786
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,480
endlessly forever and take ice and and they're

787
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:32,880
not gonna do their jobs or empower ice

788
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,679
to become the Stasi and, you know, get

789
00:25:35,679 --> 00:25:36,419
full on,

790
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,039
you know, early stages of fascism. Like, that's

791
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:40,159
what I mean is, like, I think that

792
00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:41,755
the psyops are at that point that we

793
00:25:41,755 --> 00:25:43,755
shouldn't assume that the choices being placed in

794
00:25:43,755 --> 00:25:45,674
front of us are going to benefit us

795
00:25:45,674 --> 00:25:46,414
either way.

796
00:25:46,794 --> 00:25:48,474
And I don't know what the the choice

797
00:25:48,474 --> 00:25:50,474
is or how you how we approach that

798
00:25:50,474 --> 00:25:52,794
best, but I do think the best thing

799
00:25:52,794 --> 00:25:54,075
I can come up with is to not

800
00:25:54,075 --> 00:25:56,154
fall for the psyops, to not allow yourself

801
00:25:56,154 --> 00:25:57,960
to be emotionally manipulated,

802
00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:01,000
to fall for Trump and the authoritarianism,

803
00:26:01,539 --> 00:26:03,700
or to the idea which sometimes the left

804
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,539
is like you know, they're kind of unreasonable,

805
00:26:05,539 --> 00:26:06,819
and they're just like, no. We just need

806
00:26:06,819 --> 00:26:09,059
to, you know, let everybody in, and everything's

807
00:26:09,059 --> 00:26:10,919
fine. And they kind of have this very

808
00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:13,535
naive view of what that actually looks like

809
00:26:13,535 --> 00:26:15,615
and how that turns out, would really neither

810
00:26:15,615 --> 00:26:18,015
of those choices are are benefiting us. Well,

811
00:26:18,015 --> 00:26:19,454
it's it's the way you described it. It's

812
00:26:19,454 --> 00:26:21,954
exactly and, I mean, I think it's obviously

813
00:26:22,015 --> 00:26:23,615
by design, but it doesn't have to be

814
00:26:23,615 --> 00:26:25,500
for those that don't wanna think that people

815
00:26:25,500 --> 00:26:27,580
collude and conspire to control your life. But,

816
00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:29,180
clearly, it's leading to a point to where

817
00:26:29,180 --> 00:26:31,180
we have choices that are not in the

818
00:26:31,180 --> 00:26:34,460
interest of Americans in any way, and they'll

819
00:26:34,460 --> 00:26:35,820
admit that. It's the same thing with the

820
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:37,660
last selection process where it's like, well, we

821
00:26:37,660 --> 00:26:40,105
all agree, but she he's just better. She's

822
00:26:40,105 --> 00:26:42,345
worse. It's not about the good option. And

823
00:26:42,345 --> 00:26:43,785
so we're in a place where we're watching

824
00:26:43,785 --> 00:26:45,785
this and, you know, you get but you

825
00:26:45,785 --> 00:26:47,384
get the screamers out there like we saw

826
00:26:47,384 --> 00:26:49,065
before that will act like, you know, you

827
00:26:49,065 --> 00:26:50,424
gotta be an adult in the room. You

828
00:26:50,424 --> 00:26:51,704
know, you have to admit that this is

829
00:26:51,704 --> 00:26:53,099
the only way we can do it, and

830
00:26:53,099 --> 00:26:54,380
that tricks a lot of people, a lot

831
00:26:54,380 --> 00:26:56,619
of good intention people into thinking they're not

832
00:26:56,619 --> 00:26:58,700
smart enough to grasp the political dynamic. And

833
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:00,539
so they fall into these choices, which they'll

834
00:27:00,539 --> 00:27:02,220
admit are not what I want, but as

835
00:27:02,220 --> 00:27:03,740
you said, well, the next time, we'll be

836
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:04,859
able to do it. You know? But by

837
00:27:04,859 --> 00:27:06,299
the time you get there, there's been 37

838
00:27:06,299 --> 00:27:08,055
other psyops that create the same kind of

839
00:27:08,055 --> 00:27:09,654
hair on fire we have to choose right

840
00:27:09,654 --> 00:27:11,654
now between these two things. You know? It's

841
00:27:11,654 --> 00:27:13,815
it's it's like that red button meme. That's

842
00:27:13,815 --> 00:27:15,735
that's everything in our life right now. It's

843
00:27:15,735 --> 00:27:17,735
always down to these two fake choices. And

844
00:27:17,735 --> 00:27:19,115
I but I think Exactly.

845
00:27:19,975 --> 00:27:21,335
I think there's a sense that right now,

846
00:27:21,335 --> 00:27:22,775
though. I really do. And I think that's

847
00:27:22,775 --> 00:27:24,369
why to get to the next part of

848
00:27:24,369 --> 00:27:25,109
this, the

849
00:27:25,650 --> 00:27:26,309
the technocratic

850
00:27:26,690 --> 00:27:28,529
you know, really, that's what we seem to

851
00:27:28,529 --> 00:27:30,130
obviously see in all this. But just the

852
00:27:30,210 --> 00:27:32,529
whatever you wanna call it, the control structure

853
00:27:32,529 --> 00:27:34,289
that's being built is being built in my

854
00:27:34,289 --> 00:27:37,089
mind to make that no longer possible, like,

855
00:27:37,089 --> 00:27:39,404
where our choice their concern over what we

856
00:27:39,404 --> 00:27:41,244
see seems to no longer be relevant. You

857
00:27:41,244 --> 00:27:42,684
know? And so let's let's get into the

858
00:27:42,684 --> 00:27:44,684
whole, you know, using all of what we're

859
00:27:44,684 --> 00:27:47,085
talking about to drive us not so subtly

860
00:27:47,085 --> 00:27:50,044
into, like, the technocratic control structure. You'd mentioned

861
00:27:50,044 --> 00:27:50,204
the,

862
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,420
you know, the silo of information with Palantir,

863
00:27:53,559 --> 00:27:55,559
and that's very clear. If people haven't seen

864
00:27:55,559 --> 00:27:57,079
that, watch both of our work on this

865
00:27:57,079 --> 00:27:59,160
or read it about the, you know, removing

866
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,559
of the silos, using Doge and Palantir to

867
00:28:01,559 --> 00:28:02,779
scrape all this information,

868
00:28:03,325 --> 00:28:05,644
jamming it into basically one location, no concern

869
00:28:05,644 --> 00:28:08,045
for privacy or security. I'm convinced that Israel

870
00:28:08,045 --> 00:28:10,305
and their intelligence has complete access to this.

871
00:28:10,365 --> 00:28:13,005
And using immigration, right, that rolls over into,

872
00:28:13,244 --> 00:28:15,105
just including the same thing, the great Palantir

873
00:28:15,164 --> 00:28:17,759
reset, to what you discussed. Detachment two zero

874
00:28:17,759 --> 00:28:19,440
one, I just got I just discussed it

875
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,539
as well. I call it technocracy in uniform.

876
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,279
So let's talk about that. I really think

877
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:24,740
this is a

878
00:28:25,279 --> 00:28:26,960
I mean, I'm it's actually I never would

879
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,600
have predicted that's the step that obvious to

880
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,244
just put the CTOs of these companies, Matt

881
00:28:32,325 --> 00:28:33,224
Meta, Palantir,

882
00:28:35,205 --> 00:28:35,705
OpenAI

883
00:28:36,244 --> 00:28:38,644
into the military as lieutenant colonels no less.

884
00:28:38,644 --> 00:28:39,924
So what what give us your thoughts on

885
00:28:39,924 --> 00:28:41,445
that. What does that mean? How how alarming

886
00:28:41,445 --> 00:28:42,105
is that?

887
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:43,700
I'm glad to see that you were covering

888
00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:45,460
it as well, man, because I saw somebody

889
00:28:45,460 --> 00:28:47,140
had shared with me the announcement, and it

890
00:28:47,140 --> 00:28:47,799
was interesting.

891
00:28:48,100 --> 00:28:49,539
I was reflecting on this the other day,

892
00:28:49,539 --> 00:28:51,619
actually. How many things happened that week? If

893
00:28:51,619 --> 00:28:53,940
if you think about the Bilderberg group was

894
00:28:53,940 --> 00:28:55,940
going on the same week that Trump was

895
00:28:55,940 --> 00:28:59,274
preparing for his military parade that Saturday. And

896
00:28:59,274 --> 00:29:00,954
on the day before, the Friday is when

897
00:29:00,954 --> 00:29:02,474
that picture that you were showing there when

898
00:29:02,474 --> 00:29:04,234
they were sworn in, the heads of these

899
00:29:04,234 --> 00:29:05,054
different companies.

900
00:29:05,355 --> 00:29:07,355
And then, of course, right after that, Israel

901
00:29:07,355 --> 00:29:09,835
starts bombing Iran. I tend to think that

902
00:29:09,835 --> 00:29:12,019
some of these decisions, maybe detachment two zero

903
00:29:12,019 --> 00:29:13,299
one was kind of already in the process,

904
00:29:13,299 --> 00:29:15,059
obviously, because they swore them in on that

905
00:29:15,059 --> 00:29:15,559
Friday.

906
00:29:15,859 --> 00:29:17,460
But I do think some of the bigger,

907
00:29:18,419 --> 00:29:20,419
geopolitical decisions may have been made there at

908
00:29:20,419 --> 00:29:22,500
the Bilderberg Group. And it's also interesting as

909
00:29:22,500 --> 00:29:23,940
I note in my short article there over

910
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:25,380
at the consciousresistance.com

911
00:29:25,380 --> 00:29:28,105
that, you know, of course, Palantir is represented

912
00:29:28,105 --> 00:29:30,505
through Karp and Teal at the Bilderberg Group,

913
00:29:30,825 --> 00:29:31,805
but there are also,

914
00:29:32,184 --> 00:29:34,924
officials from Microsoft and OpenAI who've been there.

915
00:29:35,545 --> 00:29:37,144
Yeah, man. It's just to me, it's just

916
00:29:37,144 --> 00:29:39,644
that the further merging of these different institutions.

917
00:29:39,705 --> 00:29:41,724
We've already been talking about it with government

918
00:29:42,119 --> 00:29:44,839
and technocracy and things like Doge and the

919
00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,559
influence of the efficiency movement and Curtis Yarvin

920
00:29:47,559 --> 00:29:48,920
and all this kind of stuff. But we

921
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,400
hadn't yet seen the military get involved, and

922
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:53,160
that's what I think makes this unique is

923
00:29:53,319 --> 00:29:55,319
Yeah. As you said, like, taking these four

924
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:55,819
executives,

925
00:29:56,215 --> 00:29:57,975
giving them a lieutenant colonel position in the

926
00:29:57,975 --> 00:30:00,295
army reserve, which is typically reserved for people

927
00:30:00,295 --> 00:30:02,535
who are in their, like, second decade of

928
00:30:02,535 --> 00:30:03,275
their career.

929
00:30:03,654 --> 00:30:06,154
And, you know, and they typically do oversee

930
00:30:06,535 --> 00:30:08,455
several 100 to maybe even up to a

931
00:30:08,455 --> 00:30:10,375
thousand soldiers. We might we probably won't see

932
00:30:10,375 --> 00:30:12,390
that with these people. Hopefully not. God, it

933
00:30:12,390 --> 00:30:13,830
would be more disturbing if we end up

934
00:30:13,830 --> 00:30:16,390
seeing these big tech execs, like, actually in

935
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:17,670
charge of soldiers. I mean, I don't know

936
00:30:17,670 --> 00:30:19,269
what that looks like. They're clapping in

937
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:22,309
Real quickly, I would say the logical connection

938
00:30:22,309 --> 00:30:24,434
would be, you know, a new kind of

939
00:30:24,434 --> 00:30:24,934
battalion,

940
00:30:25,554 --> 00:30:28,434
drones or technological, you know, biosuits or something

941
00:30:28,434 --> 00:30:30,694
like that, AI managed, you know, neurotechnology

942
00:30:31,154 --> 00:30:32,595
to where they would be leading that special

943
00:30:32,595 --> 00:30:34,194
tech part of the field. That's what I'm

944
00:30:34,194 --> 00:30:35,714
telling you. That's, like, my nightmares, but go

945
00:30:35,714 --> 00:30:36,214
ahead.

946
00:30:36,595 --> 00:30:38,355
Yeah. No. You're you're probably right. It might

947
00:30:38,355 --> 00:30:40,529
not be cause I mean, everything's changing, right?

948
00:30:40,529 --> 00:30:42,690
So it might not be a typical battalion

949
00:30:42,690 --> 00:30:43,889
in the sense that we think of it

950
00:30:43,889 --> 00:30:45,569
of just, like, leading soldiers. It could be

951
00:30:45,569 --> 00:30:48,369
that they or the soldiers that they are

952
00:30:48,369 --> 00:30:50,929
kind of overseeing could be a 100 guys

953
00:30:50,929 --> 00:30:53,195
sitting at computers in you know, Las Vegas

954
00:30:53,195 --> 00:30:54,795
at an airbase or something like that, right?

955
00:30:54,795 --> 00:30:56,154
Like that we've seen with the drones and

956
00:30:56,154 --> 00:30:57,295
things of that sort. So

957
00:30:57,674 --> 00:30:58,955
it it isn't you're right that it could

958
00:30:58,955 --> 00:31:00,715
come in a completely different context than what

959
00:31:00,715 --> 00:31:03,195
we're used to because warfare is changing. And

960
00:31:03,195 --> 00:31:05,679
obviously, this also for me goes towards fifth

961
00:31:05,679 --> 00:31:07,839
generation warfare. The idea that social media and

962
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:10,000
the internet itself is the battlefield and the

963
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,079
mind is the battlefield. So of course, they're

964
00:31:12,079 --> 00:31:14,000
gonna wanna work closer with these big tech

965
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,159
companies which already have massive amounts of data

966
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:18,164
on people. And they kind of

967
00:31:18,644 --> 00:31:20,664
term it as this is just about modernizing

968
00:31:21,205 --> 00:31:24,085
the military and making it more efficient. Because

969
00:31:24,085 --> 00:31:25,845
I will say and and, again, how who

970
00:31:25,845 --> 00:31:27,684
knows how much of this is propaganda, but

971
00:31:27,684 --> 00:31:29,605
I've heard it from soldiers as well that

972
00:31:29,605 --> 00:31:32,519
even the US military, for all their alleged

973
00:31:32,580 --> 00:31:35,059
and apparent might and power, that a lot

974
00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:37,799
of the military and government systems are decades

975
00:31:37,860 --> 00:31:38,340
behind,

976
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:40,259
which, again, that could like I said, that

977
00:31:40,259 --> 00:31:41,860
could be psy ops in order to, like,

978
00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:43,815
convince us that we need to allow them

979
00:31:43,815 --> 00:31:45,894
to work with the big tech bros and

980
00:31:45,894 --> 00:31:48,714
further kind of dilute those apparent separations.

981
00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:50,774
But those of us who've been paying attention,

982
00:31:50,774 --> 00:31:53,174
we understand that, well, Palantir is actually born

983
00:31:53,174 --> 00:31:56,054
out of DARPA and the total information awareness

984
00:31:56,054 --> 00:31:58,134
program. Of course, DARPA is part of the

985
00:31:58,134 --> 00:31:58,875
US military.

986
00:31:59,630 --> 00:32:01,710
So there's already been this connection between the

987
00:32:01,710 --> 00:32:03,390
military and a lot of these big tech

988
00:32:03,390 --> 00:32:05,630
companies since the very beginning, since their founding,

989
00:32:05,630 --> 00:32:08,590
since their, their initial funding rounds as well

990
00:32:08,590 --> 00:32:11,309
with In Q Tel. This is just, like,

991
00:32:11,309 --> 00:32:13,390
I think, kind of taking off the mask

992
00:32:13,390 --> 00:32:13,890
and

993
00:32:14,455 --> 00:32:16,455
completely removing or at least a first step

994
00:32:16,455 --> 00:32:18,535
in the process of completely removing any sort

995
00:32:18,535 --> 00:32:20,934
of apparent separation from those institutions. In the

996
00:32:20,934 --> 00:32:23,755
same way that we know social media companies

997
00:32:23,815 --> 00:32:26,055
and other big tech companies started out with

998
00:32:26,055 --> 00:32:28,289
Facebook, etcetera, with the funding. And the more

999
00:32:28,289 --> 00:32:30,210
we see them working with like the Atlantic

1000
00:32:30,210 --> 00:32:32,950
Council or with the Atlantic Council represents NATO.

1001
00:32:33,330 --> 00:32:35,570
So this isn't a 100% new but the

1002
00:32:35,570 --> 00:32:37,490
fact that they're like literally swearing them in

1003
00:32:37,490 --> 00:32:39,250
swearing them in as soldiers is kind of

1004
00:32:39,250 --> 00:32:41,330
like, wow. Okay. We're at that point now.

1005
00:32:41,330 --> 00:32:43,515
Now, they're part of the military. What sort

1006
00:32:43,515 --> 00:32:43,835
of,

1007
00:32:44,474 --> 00:32:45,755
you know, and that could be as well

1008
00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:47,434
that maybe they needed to be sworn in

1009
00:32:47,434 --> 00:32:48,154
in order to be,

1010
00:32:49,035 --> 00:32:52,474
granted certain access to classified documents or, you

1011
00:32:52,474 --> 00:32:54,154
know, sort of, you know, who knows what

1012
00:32:54,154 --> 00:32:55,595
the real purpose of this was, but I

1013
00:32:55,595 --> 00:32:57,035
don't think it's gonna be the end. I

1014
00:32:57,035 --> 00:32:59,009
would I would imagine that detachment two zero

1015
00:32:59,490 --> 00:33:01,009
one, which is what they're calling. And as

1016
00:33:01,009 --> 00:33:02,690
I point out in in my little piece

1017
00:33:02,690 --> 00:33:05,250
there that it's somewhat reminiscent for many of

1018
00:33:05,250 --> 00:33:06,609
us to event two zero one, and they

1019
00:33:06,609 --> 00:33:08,390
say, well, this has to do with HTTP

1020
00:33:08,450 --> 00:33:10,009
commands. It's, you know, not relevant. And maybe

1021
00:33:10,009 --> 00:33:11,890
it maybe that's that's true. Maybe that's where

1022
00:33:11,890 --> 00:33:13,484
they got it from. But it sure doesn't

1023
00:33:13,484 --> 00:33:14,845
make you feel very good to see them

1024
00:33:14,845 --> 00:33:16,224
using those numbers again.

1025
00:33:16,525 --> 00:33:17,964
Well, the the the point was, if I

1026
00:33:17,964 --> 00:33:19,805
remember correctly, that two zero one, there is

1027
00:33:19,805 --> 00:33:21,724
a reference to, like, the starting of some

1028
00:33:21,724 --> 00:33:23,805
new part of of the coding. So basically,

1029
00:33:23,805 --> 00:33:25,404
two zero one Yeah. In either context is

1030
00:33:25,404 --> 00:33:27,164
reference to them beginning a new chapter of

1031
00:33:27,164 --> 00:33:28,900
something. And I think that's very relevant. So

1032
00:33:28,900 --> 00:33:30,099
that's why they would call it that, you

1033
00:33:30,099 --> 00:33:32,099
know, in either case. But, yeah, to me,

1034
00:33:32,099 --> 00:33:33,619
you're right. You nailed it with, like, the

1035
00:33:33,619 --> 00:33:35,220
the the power like, I agree with the

1036
00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:37,619
first part that I think this is not

1037
00:33:37,779 --> 00:33:40,934
it's not new. It's them showing, you know,

1038
00:33:40,934 --> 00:33:42,775
that they're stepping out of the shadows. Like,

1039
00:33:42,775 --> 00:33:44,934
these people that are actually pulling the strings

1040
00:33:44,934 --> 00:33:47,095
are now seizing positions of actual power is

1041
00:33:47,095 --> 00:33:48,375
what it feels like to me. And I

1042
00:33:48,375 --> 00:33:49,575
think we're seeing that in a lot of

1043
00:33:49,575 --> 00:33:52,295
context, whether it's Zionism influencing these, you know,

1044
00:33:52,295 --> 00:33:54,210
these cabinets or whatever we're talking about. We're

1045
00:33:54,210 --> 00:33:56,519
seeing a lot of alarming power shifts that

1046
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:58,940
aren't being regarded as such in the mainstream

1047
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:01,159
alternative or mainstream media. You know? Or even,

1048
00:34:01,159 --> 00:34:02,679
like, the top the the point of, like,

1049
00:34:02,679 --> 00:34:05,079
Prospera and Honduras or these different elements we're

1050
00:34:05,079 --> 00:34:06,839
seeing like that. I think that all of

1051
00:34:06,839 --> 00:34:09,000
these are moves in that same direction, and

1052
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,934
giving them actual level high level power in

1053
00:34:11,934 --> 00:34:12,594
the military,

1054
00:34:13,215 --> 00:34:14,815
it it just it's it's a step too

1055
00:34:14,815 --> 00:34:16,195
far from that. So I say it's technocracy

1056
00:34:16,255 --> 00:34:19,135
in uniform. You're actually showing you're you're proving

1057
00:34:19,135 --> 00:34:21,295
what we're saying. Like, that this is these

1058
00:34:21,295 --> 00:34:22,434
are these are the

1059
00:34:22,735 --> 00:34:25,710
the AI Silicon Valley tech experts

1060
00:34:26,010 --> 00:34:28,010
who are now putting themselves in positions of

1061
00:34:28,010 --> 00:34:30,329
power or vice versa in the government, in

1062
00:34:30,329 --> 00:34:32,170
the military. You know? It's like, this just

1063
00:34:32,170 --> 00:34:33,769
needs to be acknowledged as the evidence of

1064
00:34:33,769 --> 00:34:35,529
exactly what we're warning about. And how is

1065
00:34:35,529 --> 00:34:37,224
that not alarming for people? How is it

1066
00:34:37,304 --> 00:34:39,224
like, Silicon Valley used to be like this

1067
00:34:39,464 --> 00:34:40,505
I don't know if it was ever real

1068
00:34:40,505 --> 00:34:41,784
or not, but they had this really hard

1069
00:34:41,784 --> 00:34:43,224
line in the sand, like, we will not

1070
00:34:43,224 --> 00:34:44,984
cross over in your politics. And, you know,

1071
00:34:44,984 --> 00:34:46,905
and then when they started obviously being shown

1072
00:34:46,905 --> 00:34:49,005
to be involved in drones and with Palantir

1073
00:34:49,065 --> 00:34:50,905
and Google, all their people were protesting, go,

1074
00:34:50,905 --> 00:34:52,684
that's not who we are. You know, clearly,

1075
00:34:52,744 --> 00:34:54,000
that kind of was always what they were,

1076
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:55,679
but now this is just revealing that same

1077
00:34:55,679 --> 00:34:57,679
point. You know, it's it's just this I

1078
00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:58,880
mean, where do you think this goes in?

1079
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,960
And it's another one well, and it's another

1080
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,559
one that I'm surprised that there's not more

1081
00:35:02,559 --> 00:35:05,199
coverage of. I mean, I had someone send

1082
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:07,105
it to y. And when I first saw

1083
00:35:07,105 --> 00:35:08,805
it, I was like, okay, well, that's interesting.

1084
00:35:08,864 --> 00:35:10,864
And then, the reason I chose to actually

1085
00:35:10,864 --> 00:35:12,065
write the article because I wrote it a

1086
00:35:12,065 --> 00:35:14,065
few days after the announcement, I tend to

1087
00:35:14,065 --> 00:35:16,065
sort of like when a story breaks, I

1088
00:35:16,065 --> 00:35:17,664
kind of wait and see. And if it's

1089
00:35:17,664 --> 00:35:19,425
all over the place everywhere or you know,

1090
00:35:19,425 --> 00:35:20,929
like you and others, I'm like, alright. Well,

1091
00:35:20,929 --> 00:35:22,289
they've got it covered enough people here and

1092
00:35:22,289 --> 00:35:23,730
there's no need for me to kind of,

1093
00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:25,730
you know, rehash that. But it was the

1094
00:35:25,730 --> 00:35:27,809
exact opposite. I'm like, okay. So nobody else

1095
00:35:27,809 --> 00:35:29,489
is talking about this and I was grateful

1096
00:35:29,489 --> 00:35:31,170
to see that you were as well. And

1097
00:35:31,170 --> 00:35:33,109
I've seen some tweets here and there but

1098
00:35:33,515 --> 00:35:35,114
by and large, I haven't seen many people

1099
00:35:35,114 --> 00:35:37,755
talking about detachment two zero one and definitely

1100
00:35:37,755 --> 00:35:40,155
not understanding the context that we're talking about

1101
00:35:40,155 --> 00:35:41,994
here. In terms of what happens next, I

1102
00:35:41,994 --> 00:35:43,434
mean, I was just thinking as you were

1103
00:35:43,434 --> 00:35:44,815
speaking there that I wonder

1104
00:35:45,355 --> 00:35:46,094
if these

1105
00:35:46,530 --> 00:35:48,849
lieutenant colonels, which is now the rank they

1106
00:35:48,849 --> 00:35:50,150
have. If they have the,

1107
00:35:51,010 --> 00:35:51,510
authority

1108
00:35:51,969 --> 00:35:54,690
in their kind of unique position to to

1109
00:35:54,690 --> 00:35:56,690
bring in more people from their crew, right?

1110
00:35:56,690 --> 00:35:58,610
Like what sort of Right. Powers do they

1111
00:35:58,610 --> 00:35:59,269
have underneath

1112
00:35:59,570 --> 00:36:01,275
their their belt now, now that they're giving

1113
00:36:01,355 --> 00:36:03,275
this rank like like I said, is usually

1114
00:36:03,275 --> 00:36:04,974
reserved for people who

1115
00:36:05,514 --> 00:36:07,594
are two decades into their career and have

1116
00:36:07,594 --> 00:36:09,135
proven themselves in the military.

1117
00:36:09,514 --> 00:36:11,114
They have some level of authority. They've got

1118
00:36:11,114 --> 00:36:14,074
soldiers underneath them, right? So could these tech

1119
00:36:14,074 --> 00:36:14,574
execs

1120
00:36:15,199 --> 00:36:17,599
swear in more of their employees or could

1121
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,359
they allow, you know, now that I'm a

1122
00:36:19,359 --> 00:36:22,159
lieutenant colonel, I have certain access information. So

1123
00:36:22,159 --> 00:36:23,759
maybe that means I can bring in some

1124
00:36:23,759 --> 00:36:25,380
of my employees and my engineers

1125
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,079
into the military bases because while they're with

1126
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:29,359
me and they have clearance or you know,

1127
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:30,824
things like that. I think there's just just

1128
00:36:30,824 --> 00:36:31,644
a lot of unforeseen,

1129
00:36:33,224 --> 00:36:35,224
outcomes that we're gonna have to wait and

1130
00:36:35,224 --> 00:36:37,464
see. But overall to me, this is just

1131
00:36:37,464 --> 00:36:39,065
a step in that direction. I wouldn't expect

1132
00:36:39,065 --> 00:36:40,344
it to be the last. I'm sure we

1133
00:36:40,344 --> 00:36:42,905
will see more tech execs follow this program

1134
00:36:42,905 --> 00:36:44,744
especially because this is they made a big

1135
00:36:44,744 --> 00:36:46,470
deal of like this is the first move

1136
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:48,750
in the detachment two zero one program, which

1137
00:36:48,750 --> 00:36:51,970
itself is part of another broader army transformation

1138
00:36:52,269 --> 00:36:52,769
initiative.

1139
00:36:53,550 --> 00:36:55,309
So I wouldn't be surprised if we see

1140
00:36:55,309 --> 00:36:56,050
more of this.

1141
00:36:56,670 --> 00:36:58,349
Doctor. I'm I'm what you mentioned is what

1142
00:36:58,349 --> 00:37:01,574
I think what concerns me. The potential access

1143
00:37:01,574 --> 00:37:03,974
to high level information, which is already there

1144
00:37:03,974 --> 00:37:06,775
in, like, a 100 other obvious overlaps. But

1145
00:37:06,775 --> 00:37:08,614
maybe there are levels within the military that

1146
00:37:08,614 --> 00:37:10,695
aren't there, and whether it's Silicon Valley and

1147
00:37:10,695 --> 00:37:12,454
people that are showing themselves to, you know,

1148
00:37:12,454 --> 00:37:14,554
be true to themselves before anything else,

1149
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,839
or the influence through them. I mean, let's

1150
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:19,760
be obvious about who these people were talking

1151
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,719
about. Halantir, you know, Teel, Karp, these are,

1152
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,359
like, diehard Zionist supporters of Israel, and that

1153
00:37:25,359 --> 00:37:27,375
worries me in this overlap. You know, what

1154
00:37:27,375 --> 00:37:29,215
are they gaining access to? And even if

1155
00:37:29,215 --> 00:37:30,735
you don't think that's the case, well, you

1156
00:37:30,735 --> 00:37:32,894
know, they're they're just consider it being anybody

1157
00:37:32,894 --> 00:37:34,574
else in the world. Shouldn't we be worried

1158
00:37:34,574 --> 00:37:36,335
that there's people out there that have interest

1159
00:37:36,335 --> 00:37:38,735
that go beyond American interest who now have

1160
00:37:38,735 --> 00:37:40,849
access to internal high level information.

1161
00:37:41,150 --> 00:37:43,890
Obviously, we saw this with Walt using TeleMessage

1162
00:37:44,510 --> 00:37:46,530
on his phone, which is an Israeli intelligence

1163
00:37:46,670 --> 00:37:48,590
app, to archive their signal app. Did you

1164
00:37:48,590 --> 00:37:50,430
see that conversation? And that and then and

1165
00:37:50,430 --> 00:37:52,394
then I see that. Their phones got hacked,

1166
00:37:52,394 --> 00:37:54,255
you know? And it's like, well, surprise, surprise.

1167
00:37:54,315 --> 00:37:56,875
And that's the inner circle, guys, you know?

1168
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:58,474
Yeah. So before before we go to the

1169
00:37:58,554 --> 00:38:00,074
oh, go ahead. Go ahead. I was just

1170
00:38:00,074 --> 00:38:01,434
gonna say and just one other piece to

1171
00:38:01,434 --> 00:38:03,034
kind of add to the Israel piece you're

1172
00:38:03,034 --> 00:38:04,715
mentioning there is that we know how many

1173
00:38:04,715 --> 00:38:07,339
of these, big tech firms also have Israeli

1174
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:08,619
connections because,

1175
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:10,920
you know, you got unit eighty one, unit

1176
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:11,739
eighty two hundred,

1177
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,420
the Mossad obviously,

1178
00:38:13,799 --> 00:38:16,859
the Talpiot program. There's many, many pieces of

1179
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:19,239
the Israeli intelligence network that,

1180
00:38:20,204 --> 00:38:22,844
are are directly tied to, to the the

1181
00:38:22,844 --> 00:38:24,445
tech sector and big tech sector in The

1182
00:38:24,445 --> 00:38:26,684
US. So there could be some overlap as

1183
00:38:26,684 --> 00:38:28,545
well there. Right? Like, do these companies

1184
00:38:29,164 --> 00:38:31,805
whether knowingly or otherwise, let's just imagine the

1185
00:38:31,805 --> 00:38:35,460
Israeli networks have infiltrated without even the permission

1186
00:38:35,460 --> 00:38:36,920
of OpenAI or,

1187
00:38:37,539 --> 00:38:39,699
Palantir. Although, like you said, Palantir is pretty

1188
00:38:39,699 --> 00:38:41,300
openly embrace them. So I I don't think

1189
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:42,980
they would have any qualms with giving them

1190
00:38:42,980 --> 00:38:43,480
access.

1191
00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:45,000
Maybe through that,

1192
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:48,041
they access US military secrets or US military

1193
00:38:48,148 --> 00:38:49,614
Doctor. Right. Doctor. Technology. I mean, there's all

1194
00:38:49,614 --> 00:38:51,054
sorts of things that I think could go

1195
00:38:51,054 --> 00:38:51,795
wrong here.

1196
00:38:52,094 --> 00:38:53,695
Doctor. That's what worries me the most, you

1197
00:38:53,695 --> 00:38:55,534
know, is where that goes. And so, before

1198
00:38:55,534 --> 00:38:57,054
we go back to Israel and maybe, you

1199
00:38:57,054 --> 00:38:59,315
know, finish and talking about some foreign policy,

1200
00:38:59,375 --> 00:39:00,815
there's an obvious point to go on this

1201
00:39:00,815 --> 00:39:02,789
that connects to the overlap of all we've

1202
00:39:02,789 --> 00:39:04,650
been discussing that you commented on recently. And

1203
00:39:04,650 --> 00:39:05,829
I this is you know, and we can

1204
00:39:05,829 --> 00:39:07,190
obviously go into a lot of different things

1205
00:39:07,190 --> 00:39:10,489
here. The contradiction of of the the leadership

1206
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:12,789
in the Maha movement, not necessarily everybody who

1207
00:39:12,789 --> 00:39:14,230
believed that's where it was going, because I

1208
00:39:14,230 --> 00:39:15,989
still think they're largely in their intentions for

1209
00:39:15,989 --> 00:39:17,984
good. They got played by people like this

1210
00:39:17,984 --> 00:39:20,385
who are rolling out CRISPR pig meat, mRNA

1211
00:39:20,385 --> 00:39:22,565
shots, MMR shots, I mean,

1212
00:39:22,864 --> 00:39:24,944
self amplifying shots, or, you know, any number

1213
00:39:24,944 --> 00:39:27,505
of other things allowing the PFAS restrictions to

1214
00:39:27,505 --> 00:39:28,164
be removed.

1215
00:39:28,625 --> 00:39:30,804
I mean, I'm shocked to see how brazen

1216
00:39:30,864 --> 00:39:32,590
the one eighty was in a lot of

1217
00:39:32,590 --> 00:39:34,269
this. But so you you recently commented on

1218
00:39:34,269 --> 00:39:34,929
the wearables,

1219
00:39:35,230 --> 00:39:38,269
this conversation. And then the secretary secretary Kennedy

1220
00:39:38,269 --> 00:39:39,250
put this out. Wearables

1221
00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:41,309
put basically, what he says is by the

1222
00:39:41,309 --> 00:39:42,349
end of what, the year that or a

1223
00:39:42,349 --> 00:39:43,949
couple years, he thinks that everyone should have

1224
00:39:43,949 --> 00:39:45,284
a wearable. And so, you just said it

1225
00:39:45,284 --> 00:39:47,045
was a bad move and listed the obvious.

1226
00:39:47,045 --> 00:39:48,244
So what are your thoughts on that and,

1227
00:39:48,244 --> 00:39:49,844
you know, all that? Where wherever you wanna

1228
00:39:49,844 --> 00:39:50,664
go with it. Doctor. Well,

1229
00:39:51,125 --> 00:39:52,804
so if you click that link, there's the

1230
00:39:52,804 --> 00:39:54,885
conscious resistance. That's a report I did which

1231
00:39:54,885 --> 00:39:56,405
is actually based on an article I wrote

1232
00:39:56,405 --> 00:39:57,625
for T Lab. And

1233
00:39:58,030 --> 00:40:00,369
funny thing about this so that's just my

1234
00:40:00,510 --> 00:40:02,349
video version of the article. The article's in

1235
00:40:02,349 --> 00:40:04,030
the show notes that we did a while

1236
00:40:04,030 --> 00:40:04,530
back,

1237
00:40:05,869 --> 00:40:07,789
about this whole wearable thing. Yeah. Right there,

1238
00:40:07,789 --> 00:40:08,450
that article.

1239
00:40:09,150 --> 00:40:11,655
The US government awards contracts to seven organizations

1240
00:40:11,655 --> 00:40:13,815
with ties to Gates Foundation, DARPA, and Big

1241
00:40:13,815 --> 00:40:15,335
Tech. And I was just showing how in

1242
00:40:15,335 --> 00:40:17,815
there that a lot of those companies focus

1243
00:40:17,815 --> 00:40:20,295
on wearable technologies and and things that sort

1244
00:40:20,295 --> 00:40:22,775
and kind of showing this is October 2020.

1245
00:40:22,775 --> 00:40:24,489
So we're in the middle of COVID And

1246
00:40:24,489 --> 00:40:26,730
it wasn't necessarily prediction but all the signs

1247
00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:28,250
are there and here we are five years

1248
00:40:28,250 --> 00:40:30,510
later and the new head of the HHS

1249
00:40:30,570 --> 00:40:32,570
who's supposed to be Maha is here saying

1250
00:40:32,570 --> 00:40:33,849
that that's gonna be the future and in

1251
00:40:33,849 --> 00:40:35,210
the next couple years, I think he said

1252
00:40:35,210 --> 00:40:36,255
three or four years

1253
00:40:36,654 --> 00:40:39,214
that everybody will be wearing them. Thankfully, there

1254
00:40:39,214 --> 00:40:40,734
has been a lot of pushback and people

1255
00:40:40,734 --> 00:40:42,494
are, you know, it's not like Maha is

1256
00:40:42,494 --> 00:40:44,094
taking this laying down. Although, I think a

1257
00:40:44,094 --> 00:40:46,255
lot of people are disappointed for sure. And

1258
00:40:46,255 --> 00:40:47,614
I do think with I agree with your

1259
00:40:47,614 --> 00:40:49,920
analysis there that while I have been pretty

1260
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,559
critical of of Kennedy and I will continue

1261
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:54,239
to be, I do think there's a lot

1262
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,559
of well meaning intention people who jumped on

1263
00:40:56,559 --> 00:40:59,440
board that movement and absolutely did follow Trump

1264
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,699
simply based on the Maha promises

1265
00:41:02,125 --> 00:41:03,644
which I think was part of the SIOP

1266
00:41:03,644 --> 00:41:05,805
as well. Whether Kennedy was fully aware or

1267
00:41:05,805 --> 00:41:06,305
not,

1268
00:41:07,325 --> 00:41:08,844
that that was part of because they we

1269
00:41:08,844 --> 00:41:10,605
know that Trump, he needed the libertarians, he

1270
00:41:10,605 --> 00:41:12,204
needed the crypto crowd just as far as

1271
00:41:12,204 --> 00:41:14,204
for whatever you think the elections are real.

1272
00:41:14,204 --> 00:41:15,885
Even if we know the elections are rigged

1273
00:41:15,885 --> 00:41:18,320
and Trump was totally selected, which is what

1274
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:18,980
I believe,

1275
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,199
there still needs to be the appearance of

1276
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:22,039
unity. Doctor. Justin Marchegiani: A momentum. Doctor. Yeah.

1277
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,239
Doctor. Of like a momentum of a movement,

1278
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:25,860
right? Because if there was no movement

1279
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:27,840
and all of a sudden this happened, there

1280
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,375
would be a lot more skeptical people. But

1281
00:41:29,375 --> 00:41:30,655
now people are like, what are you talking

1282
00:41:30,655 --> 00:41:32,494
about, Derek? We built a movement, a coalition.

1283
00:41:32,494 --> 00:41:34,014
We had Tulsa. We had RFK. We had

1284
00:41:34,014 --> 00:41:36,734
all these disaffected Democrats, and we had the

1285
00:41:36,734 --> 00:41:38,815
crypto bros, and we had the libertarians, and

1286
00:41:38,815 --> 00:41:40,974
we came together in this beautiful coalition, and

1287
00:41:40,974 --> 00:41:42,734
that's how we won. So it gives this

1288
00:41:42,734 --> 00:41:44,554
this air of legitimacy. But the point is

1289
00:41:44,554 --> 00:41:46,570
that a lot of people did vote for

1290
00:41:46,570 --> 00:41:48,409
Trump and went, you know, to have joined

1291
00:41:48,409 --> 00:41:49,309
this kind of movement

1292
00:41:49,690 --> 00:41:50,190
skeptically,

1293
00:41:50,570 --> 00:41:52,030
you know, very uncertain,

1294
00:41:52,489 --> 00:41:54,090
but they did so because they believe, well,

1295
00:41:54,090 --> 00:41:56,170
at least maybe we can get some some

1296
00:41:56,170 --> 00:41:58,489
some movement around the health aspect. And Which

1297
00:41:58,489 --> 00:41:59,655
I understand. I mean

1298
00:42:00,375 --> 00:42:01,735
yeah. Because I get I get, like, they

1299
00:42:01,735 --> 00:42:03,175
feel they felt like there was a gamble,

1300
00:42:03,175 --> 00:42:04,855
and people tell me, Derek, well, there's no

1301
00:42:04,855 --> 00:42:06,855
chance of this happening with Kamala Harris, so

1302
00:42:06,855 --> 00:42:09,094
I'm gonna go with with Trump. And, yeah,

1303
00:42:09,094 --> 00:42:11,175
the the, I think it's the ACIP, the

1304
00:42:11,175 --> 00:42:12,855
vaccine committee that a lot of the mainstream's

1305
00:42:12,855 --> 00:42:14,909
making a big deal about right now, That

1306
00:42:14,909 --> 00:42:15,409
RFK

1307
00:42:16,190 --> 00:42:18,269
and his team, they removed all the old

1308
00:42:18,269 --> 00:42:19,710
people and they put in new folks like

1309
00:42:19,710 --> 00:42:21,630
Robert Malone. I tend I am also skeptical

1310
00:42:21,630 --> 00:42:23,389
of Robert Malone and some of his connections

1311
00:42:23,389 --> 00:42:25,389
and his discussion with the CIA. But even

1312
00:42:25,389 --> 00:42:28,194
putting that aside, I can objectively say that's

1313
00:42:28,194 --> 00:42:30,355
probably better. They're probably going to do better

1314
00:42:30,355 --> 00:42:32,434
than the previous guys would do, but that

1315
00:42:32,434 --> 00:42:35,234
doesn't that doesn't we shouldn't ignore then that

1316
00:42:35,234 --> 00:42:36,135
Trump's FDA

1317
00:42:36,594 --> 00:42:39,474
has approved to fast track two m and

1318
00:42:39,474 --> 00:42:41,714
r mRNA injections already. And you mentioned the

1319
00:42:41,714 --> 00:42:45,710
Stargate mRNA AI stuff. The HHS under RFK

1320
00:42:45,849 --> 00:42:46,909
declaring antisemitism,

1321
00:42:47,289 --> 00:42:49,210
you know, one of the greatest health public

1322
00:42:49,210 --> 00:42:51,929
health threats. And and there's also still the

1323
00:42:51,929 --> 00:42:53,210
other we haven't talked about this in a

1324
00:42:53,210 --> 00:42:54,809
while, but the other one that I'm still

1325
00:42:54,809 --> 00:42:56,744
keeping an eye on. And I did write

1326
00:42:56,744 --> 00:42:58,744
one article for TLAB maybe a month ago,

1327
00:42:58,744 --> 00:43:01,144
but there's been more updates, is that the

1328
00:43:01,144 --> 00:43:03,944
Trump administration is still showing all signs that

1329
00:43:03,944 --> 00:43:05,464
they are going to fight the the ruling

1330
00:43:05,464 --> 00:43:06,605
of the fluoride lawsuit.

1331
00:43:06,984 --> 00:43:08,664
Right. They I I published this a couple

1332
00:43:08,664 --> 00:43:11,549
weeks ago. They did their third request. So,

1333
00:43:11,549 --> 00:43:13,389
you know, the for those who have missed

1334
00:43:13,389 --> 00:43:15,710
it, last year, federal judge rules that the

1335
00:43:15,710 --> 00:43:18,190
EPA is supposed to act either ban fluoride

1336
00:43:18,190 --> 00:43:19,710
or do something. And that was under the

1337
00:43:19,710 --> 00:43:21,710
Biden administration, of course. And right before Biden

1338
00:43:21,710 --> 00:43:24,704
left, his EPA did issue an appeal. And

1339
00:43:24,704 --> 00:43:26,065
so then, it was like, Okay. Let's kind

1340
00:43:26,065 --> 00:43:28,065
of wait and see. Is Trump gonna continue

1341
00:43:28,065 --> 00:43:30,224
the appeal? A lot of Maha people including

1342
00:43:30,224 --> 00:43:32,144
my friends over at the Fluoride Action Network

1343
00:43:32,144 --> 00:43:33,744
and people who are involved in that lawsuit

1344
00:43:33,744 --> 00:43:35,250
are like, No, no. He's gonna come in.

1345
00:43:35,250 --> 00:43:37,170
They're gonna shut the appeal down, and we're

1346
00:43:37,170 --> 00:43:39,489
gonna see what the EPA does. Well, it's

1347
00:43:39,489 --> 00:43:41,010
about to be July, and,

1348
00:43:41,489 --> 00:43:43,570
they're still fighting that appeal. And that gentleman

1349
00:43:43,570 --> 00:43:44,869
you're showing on screen there,

1350
00:43:45,329 --> 00:43:47,835
he is the surgeon general now, and he's

1351
00:43:47,835 --> 00:43:50,155
also a lawyer who defended Trump, during some

1352
00:43:50,155 --> 00:43:52,234
of the impeachment hearings in the past. And,

1353
00:43:52,554 --> 00:43:53,054
his

1354
00:43:53,434 --> 00:43:56,554
his attorneys have now requested and received three

1355
00:43:56,554 --> 00:43:57,054
different,

1356
00:43:57,835 --> 00:43:59,594
extensions. So they were supposed to make a

1357
00:43:59,594 --> 00:44:01,195
decision if they were gonna appeal back in,

1358
00:44:01,195 --> 00:44:02,639
like, March or April, and then they they

1359
00:44:02,639 --> 00:44:03,839
had delayed it to April, and then they

1360
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:05,839
delayed it till May, and then they delayed

1361
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:07,440
it to June. The most recent one I

1362
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,940
saw was an extension to, like, July 11.

1363
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,420
When we discussed this on on the interview,

1364
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:14,559
that that was at the point where they

1365
00:44:14,559 --> 00:44:16,179
had delayed it once. Is that correct?

1366
00:44:16,875 --> 00:44:18,474
They had delayed it twice then, and now

1367
00:44:18,474 --> 00:44:19,914
there's been a third one since then. So

1368
00:44:19,914 --> 00:44:21,375
I think in that article there

1369
00:44:21,835 --> 00:44:23,195
yeah. I think in that article, I put

1370
00:44:23,355 --> 00:44:26,035
I posted that their next deadline was June

1371
00:44:26,035 --> 00:44:28,074
11. But right before June 11 came up,

1372
00:44:28,074 --> 00:44:29,835
they they extended again. So I think it's,

1373
00:44:29,835 --> 00:44:31,755
like, July 5 or some I'll have to

1374
00:44:31,755 --> 00:44:33,070
look up the exact date. But I've been

1375
00:44:33,070 --> 00:44:34,369
following the court records

1376
00:44:34,670 --> 00:44:36,510
because again, the the corporate media is not

1377
00:44:36,510 --> 00:44:38,030
following this. So you just gotta log in

1378
00:44:38,030 --> 00:44:39,789
and you gotta follow the court records and

1379
00:44:39,789 --> 00:44:41,469
you can see and I quoted them from

1380
00:44:41,469 --> 00:44:43,889
there. It seems pretty clear that Trump administration

1381
00:44:43,949 --> 00:44:45,710
is gonna continue to fight it because what

1382
00:44:45,710 --> 00:44:47,824
they've said several times now is that we

1383
00:44:47,824 --> 00:44:50,085
need more time to review the scientific data

1384
00:44:50,144 --> 00:44:52,384
before the surgeon general can decide if he's

1385
00:44:52,384 --> 00:44:53,904
gonna go through with it. You know, basically,

1386
00:44:53,904 --> 00:44:55,904
they're saying, like, we make a report. We

1387
00:44:55,904 --> 00:44:57,904
pass that to the assistant or surgeon general.

1388
00:44:57,904 --> 00:45:00,065
He reviews it. He makes some recommendations, and

1389
00:45:00,065 --> 00:45:01,585
then that goes to the surgeon general, and

1390
00:45:01,585 --> 00:45:03,480
he's the one who makes the actual final

1391
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:03,980
call.

1392
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,599
But in my mind, and this is what

1393
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,760
Michael Connick, who's the lead attorney who's told

1394
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,519
me, I think it's quoted in that article,

1395
00:45:10,519 --> 00:45:12,519
that we've already had numerous reviews. We've already

1396
00:45:12,519 --> 00:45:13,960
we don't need the EPA to do more

1397
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,974
reviews on top of reviews and have this

1398
00:45:15,974 --> 00:45:17,894
thing delay for another five, ten years, and

1399
00:45:17,894 --> 00:45:19,494
then it never happens. The Trump administration

1400
00:45:20,215 --> 00:45:23,095
that too. Exactly. And if the Trump administration

1401
00:45:23,095 --> 00:45:25,175
wants to follow the federal government's own report

1402
00:45:25,175 --> 00:45:27,974
of the National Toxicology Program or follow the

1403
00:45:27,974 --> 00:45:29,675
ruling of a federal judge,

1404
00:45:30,380 --> 00:45:33,340
then and follow Maha because RFK surely knows

1405
00:45:33,340 --> 00:45:34,480
there's problems with fluoride,

1406
00:45:34,780 --> 00:45:36,380
then they there should be no question. It

1407
00:45:36,380 --> 00:45:38,539
should just be we're rescinding the appeal, the

1408
00:45:38,539 --> 00:45:40,380
EPA is going to act, and that's a

1409
00:45:40,380 --> 00:45:43,019
done deal. Instead, they're delaying and delaying and

1410
00:45:43,019 --> 00:45:44,539
saying, we're gonna let you know. We'll figure

1411
00:45:44,539 --> 00:45:47,175
it out soon. And, there's been no major

1412
00:45:47,175 --> 00:45:48,775
reporting on this. And I think they might

1413
00:45:48,775 --> 00:45:50,615
be hoping that people just kinda forget about

1414
00:45:50,615 --> 00:45:52,954
it and and the whole thing goes away.

1415
00:45:53,815 --> 00:45:55,974
So frustrating. Yeah. So they delayed it again

1416
00:45:55,974 --> 00:45:57,575
since we talked. I mean, yeah. And I

1417
00:45:57,655 --> 00:45:59,460
you know, that that the the fact that

1418
00:45:59,460 --> 00:46:01,699
the evidence was already they've gone through this

1419
00:46:01,699 --> 00:46:03,380
all the times you've already been covering it,

1420
00:46:03,380 --> 00:46:04,900
the many different times they've tried to roll

1421
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,679
it back, and the evidence was already there.

1422
00:46:06,739 --> 00:46:08,420
You know, I'm we can hope, as always,

1423
00:46:08,420 --> 00:46:09,780
we should hope, as I get where they're

1424
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:11,460
coming from, that that this is gonna go

1425
00:46:11,460 --> 00:46:13,404
the right direction. But the moment that this

1426
00:46:13,404 --> 00:46:15,324
doesn't, we're gonna be screaming about it. Right?

1427
00:46:15,324 --> 00:46:17,244
And it's it's everyone needs to call it

1428
00:46:17,244 --> 00:46:19,085
out because this is a major I mean,

1429
00:46:19,085 --> 00:46:20,764
it's this is about the same level for

1430
00:46:20,764 --> 00:46:21,505
me as

1431
00:46:21,884 --> 00:46:24,204
the MMR shot, which was insane to see

1432
00:46:24,204 --> 00:46:25,804
RFK Jr go the way he did with

1433
00:46:25,804 --> 00:46:27,670
that. So, you know, fluoride being something he's

1434
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:29,590
been adamant about over the years. And so

1435
00:46:29,590 --> 00:46:31,110
we'll have to see when it happens, but

1436
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:33,030
Derek will be covering when it happens. So

1437
00:46:33,030 --> 00:46:35,269
look forward to that. Yeah. It's frustrating, man.

1438
00:46:35,269 --> 00:46:36,789
I mean, I it's just just so much

1439
00:46:36,789 --> 00:46:38,070
of this stuff, and it just this is

1440
00:46:38,070 --> 00:46:39,914
why, again, the point of the community, there's

1441
00:46:39,914 --> 00:46:41,114
a lot of them. Like, I'll point out

1442
00:46:41,114 --> 00:46:43,275
Mary Talley Bowden, for example, MD, who she

1443
00:46:43,355 --> 00:46:45,675
she's been very aggressive about this, rightly so.

1444
00:46:45,675 --> 00:46:47,594
You know, going, like, the it's about principles,

1445
00:46:47,594 --> 00:46:49,275
and this is wrong. The moment they went

1446
00:46:49,275 --> 00:46:50,795
away from it, she's like, not that's not

1447
00:46:50,795 --> 00:46:52,559
what we promised. That's wrong. And that's what

1448
00:46:52,559 --> 00:46:54,000
that's what it takes today. We have to

1449
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,599
start standing by our principles or we're gonna

1450
00:46:55,599 --> 00:46:57,280
get lost. Doctor. I do appreciate her and

1451
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,360
others that have a bigger platform that are

1452
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,640
calling out. And that's one good thing I

1453
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,239
will say about this sort of the social

1454
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,320
media aspect of this is that when RFK

1455
00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:05,219
makes these tweets,

1456
00:47:05,844 --> 00:47:07,285
look at the comments. I mean, he's getting

1457
00:47:07,285 --> 00:47:08,885
ate up by his own people, people who

1458
00:47:08,885 --> 00:47:10,164
are like, you sold out. This is not

1459
00:47:10,164 --> 00:47:12,965
what I voted for. Now, obviously, that who

1460
00:47:12,965 --> 00:47:14,965
knows if that translates into anything? But at

1461
00:47:14,965 --> 00:47:16,744
the very least, it's good to see that

1462
00:47:16,805 --> 00:47:19,440
not everybody following Trump or following RFK are

1463
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,519
sycophants and that some people are choosing to

1464
00:47:21,519 --> 00:47:23,780
stick with principles over, you know, personalities.

1465
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:26,239
You know, I get the sense that it's

1466
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,519
a lot more than we think and that

1467
00:47:27,519 --> 00:47:28,880
there's a lot of people in the middle

1468
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:30,400
of all this who don't have a voice,

1469
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,054
who don't have a large following, who don't,

1470
00:47:32,135 --> 00:47:33,414
you know, in the sense of, like, being

1471
00:47:33,414 --> 00:47:35,655
seen in the conversation out there, who just

1472
00:47:35,655 --> 00:47:37,255
are very unhappy with what's going on. You

1473
00:47:37,255 --> 00:47:38,454
know? But they but they're not out there

1474
00:47:38,454 --> 00:47:40,375
waving their hands going, we should've picked Tawala.

1475
00:47:40,375 --> 00:47:41,815
They probably they still think, you know, they're

1476
00:47:42,135 --> 00:47:43,574
in their mind, there still was only two

1477
00:47:43,574 --> 00:47:45,335
choices, but they're not happy with this. And

1478
00:47:45,335 --> 00:47:46,855
I'm talking to more of them every single

1479
00:47:46,855 --> 00:47:48,449
day. They just don't you know, they get

1480
00:47:48,449 --> 00:47:50,050
drowned out by the Knicks, Soders, and Jones

1481
00:47:50,050 --> 00:47:51,809
of the world who just scream the narrative

1482
00:47:51,809 --> 00:47:53,170
over the top of everybody. And, you know,

1483
00:47:53,170 --> 00:47:54,690
and they and then it gives them some

1484
00:47:54,690 --> 00:47:56,369
feeling like, okay. Maybe I'm wrong. You know,

1485
00:47:56,369 --> 00:47:58,289
maybe this is maybe we're still winning, you

1486
00:47:58,289 --> 00:47:59,570
know, and they fall back in line. You

1487
00:47:59,570 --> 00:48:01,409
know? So but I I think that people

1488
00:48:01,409 --> 00:48:02,469
recognize how

1489
00:48:02,855 --> 00:48:04,295
how, you know, this is not going the

1490
00:48:04,295 --> 00:48:05,894
direction that they'd wanted. You know? And so

1491
00:48:05,894 --> 00:48:08,295
let let's finish with a conversation of some

1492
00:48:08,295 --> 00:48:10,295
foreign policy because, obviously, this is a a

1493
00:48:10,295 --> 00:48:12,954
very, very large conversation going on. So first,

1494
00:48:14,054 --> 00:48:15,974
excuse me, before we talk about Iran and

1495
00:48:15,974 --> 00:48:18,579
some different points, speaking of of manipulators, let's

1496
00:48:18,739 --> 00:48:21,699
here's what Nick Sorder put out around Gaza,

1497
00:48:21,699 --> 00:48:23,380
which I just think says a lot, and

1498
00:48:23,380 --> 00:48:25,539
we've seen this so many times. He says,

1499
00:48:25,539 --> 00:48:26,039
breaking,

1500
00:48:26,500 --> 00:48:28,980
president Trump, which, again, it you know, wasn't

1501
00:48:28,980 --> 00:48:30,500
breaking. He saw somebody else report it and

1502
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:31,859
then reported it. And it says, Donald Trump

1503
00:48:31,859 --> 00:48:33,704
has convinced BB, they all love to call

1504
00:48:33,704 --> 00:48:35,704
him BB now because Trump said that, to

1505
00:48:35,704 --> 00:48:37,384
end the war in Gaza within two weeks

1506
00:48:37,384 --> 00:48:39,864
per multiple reports. So point is a report

1507
00:48:39,864 --> 00:48:42,585
went out saying something we've heard a thousand

1508
00:48:42,585 --> 00:48:44,760
times and never actually happened. Right? Then he

1509
00:48:44,760 --> 00:48:47,079
goes, the peace president never stops. I'm like,

1510
00:48:47,079 --> 00:48:48,780
you know, you you can't being a cheerleader

1511
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,920
today is so self evident. You know? We

1512
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,599
don't even know what's happening yet. But it

1513
00:48:52,599 --> 00:48:54,599
says they've agreed that UAE, Egypt, and two

1514
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,679
other countries will govern Gaza. Oh, okay. So

1515
00:48:56,679 --> 00:48:58,219
we're now at the point again where Palestinians

1516
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,199
don't decide their own future, so they'll say

1517
00:49:00,199 --> 00:49:01,695
no, and they'll be blamed for not wanting

1518
00:49:01,695 --> 00:49:02,974
peace. You know, it's like the same old

1519
00:49:02,974 --> 00:49:05,135
cycle, man. But just wanna point out, and

1520
00:49:05,135 --> 00:49:06,735
if you want any comments on Gaza since

1521
00:49:06,735 --> 00:49:07,775
it seems to be kind of the back

1522
00:49:07,775 --> 00:49:09,375
burner of the conversation right now in foreign

1523
00:49:09,375 --> 00:49:11,695
policy, it frustrates me. We're still playing this

1524
00:49:11,695 --> 00:49:13,454
game where the fake cease fire so we

1525
00:49:13,454 --> 00:49:14,760
can get a a moment of some kind

1526
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,079
of fake win like when he took in

1527
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:17,719
came into power and they pretend that there

1528
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:18,840
was a cease fire that we all knew

1529
00:49:18,840 --> 00:49:20,280
they were gonna break, you know, and the

1530
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:21,800
idea that they're not making their own choices.

1531
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:22,460
Go ahead.

1532
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,280
That's that's what's been coming to my mind

1533
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,360
too because I've I've had some Trumpers in

1534
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:27,880
my comments when I made, like, a big

1535
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:30,894
post the several posts last week about the

1536
00:49:30,954 --> 00:49:32,954
the bombing of Iran and just sort of,

1537
00:49:32,954 --> 00:49:35,275
hey. Here's your peace president. Right? And now

1538
00:49:35,275 --> 00:49:37,914
they're it's funny. Even Nick there, who I

1539
00:49:37,914 --> 00:49:39,215
cannot stand that dude,

1540
00:49:40,074 --> 00:49:41,909
is kind of twisting. It's like, when we

1541
00:49:41,909 --> 00:49:43,829
say he's not a peace president, it's because

1542
00:49:43,829 --> 00:49:46,069
he's bombing people and he's doing without congressional

1543
00:49:46,069 --> 00:49:48,309
approval and because he dropped more drone bombs

1544
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:50,710
than Obama and, you know, he helped Saudi

1545
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:51,210
Arabia

1546
00:49:51,510 --> 00:49:53,109
massacre Yemen. We could go on and on.

1547
00:49:53,109 --> 00:49:55,349
Right? He's funding Gaza, etcetera, the massacre of

1548
00:49:55,349 --> 00:49:55,849
Gaza.

1549
00:49:56,385 --> 00:49:58,545
But then they're twisting it of peace president

1550
00:49:58,545 --> 00:50:00,784
because he's going to allegedly broker a peace

1551
00:50:00,784 --> 00:50:01,284
deal.

1552
00:50:01,585 --> 00:50:03,184
Even if in the process of getting this

1553
00:50:03,184 --> 00:50:05,425
alleged peace deal, it means him launching wars

1554
00:50:05,425 --> 00:50:07,265
and and bombs and killing people or at

1555
00:50:07,265 --> 00:50:09,585
least supporting that. I think that's part of

1556
00:50:09,585 --> 00:50:10,244
the manipulation.

1557
00:50:11,329 --> 00:50:13,730
Or the fact that he's are you know,

1558
00:50:13,730 --> 00:50:15,570
let's just assume for sake of conversation he's

1559
00:50:15,570 --> 00:50:17,409
actually seeking peace, which I don't believe, and

1560
00:50:17,409 --> 00:50:18,690
I think the facts back it up. But

1561
00:50:18,690 --> 00:50:20,050
even if he is, you're seeking peace for

1562
00:50:20,050 --> 00:50:22,369
something you started. You can't be called a

1563
00:50:22,369 --> 00:50:24,954
peace president for for a peace with in

1564
00:50:24,954 --> 00:50:26,635
in a in a war that you initiated

1565
00:50:26,635 --> 00:50:28,474
or rather with your allies that you back.

1566
00:50:28,474 --> 00:50:29,914
I mean so but they know that though.

1567
00:50:29,914 --> 00:50:31,514
I mean or I mean, I shouldn't give

1568
00:50:31,514 --> 00:50:33,195
them credit when it comes to intelligence, but

1569
00:50:33,195 --> 00:50:35,195
I think that largely, they're aware they're being

1570
00:50:35,195 --> 00:50:37,114
deceptive in my opinion. I I think so.

1571
00:50:37,114 --> 00:50:38,315
And then the other point I would make

1572
00:50:38,315 --> 00:50:40,089
is is what the the second part of

1573
00:50:40,089 --> 00:50:42,010
his comment was alluding to, which you pointed

1574
00:50:42,010 --> 00:50:44,409
out is that okay. So this alleged peace

1575
00:50:44,409 --> 00:50:46,969
deal does not involve Palestinians having a voice.

1576
00:50:46,969 --> 00:50:47,710
This involves

1577
00:50:48,409 --> 00:50:50,250
other nations like The US. And this is,

1578
00:50:50,250 --> 00:50:51,929
to me, just one of the fundamental problems

1579
00:50:51,929 --> 00:50:54,724
with this is, like, people say, well, Iran

1580
00:50:54,724 --> 00:50:56,644
shouldn't have access to nukes. And it's like,

1581
00:50:56,644 --> 00:50:58,724
well, why is it The US that gets

1582
00:50:58,724 --> 00:51:01,125
to decide that? Why is it that nations

1583
00:51:01,125 --> 00:51:03,224
like Israel and The US who have weapons

1584
00:51:03,364 --> 00:51:04,344
of mass destruction

1585
00:51:04,805 --> 00:51:06,405
are the ones that get to decide who

1586
00:51:06,405 --> 00:51:08,130
else gets to have those weapons of mass

1587
00:51:08,130 --> 00:51:09,650
destruction. And I guess that's the answer as

1588
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:11,089
well because they've got the weapons and they

1589
00:51:11,089 --> 00:51:12,929
could decide who gets to keep them. And

1590
00:51:12,929 --> 00:51:14,769
if not, they're gonna use them on people.

1591
00:51:14,769 --> 00:51:16,769
But it's just that sort of unspoken assumption

1592
00:51:16,769 --> 00:51:19,329
that, well, we're the US government is the

1593
00:51:19,329 --> 00:51:20,690
good guys. The US military is the good

1594
00:51:20,690 --> 00:51:22,184
guys. And so we're the ones who get

1595
00:51:22,184 --> 00:51:24,925
to decide who gets to have what

1596
00:51:25,224 --> 00:51:27,224
on the world stage. But then also that,

1597
00:51:27,224 --> 00:51:29,385
like, that so The UAE, which is not

1598
00:51:29,385 --> 00:51:32,204
known for human rights, caring about human rights,

1599
00:51:32,425 --> 00:51:32,925
Egypt,

1600
00:51:33,545 --> 00:51:35,859
same problems, and other Arab states are going

1601
00:51:35,859 --> 00:51:38,019
to govern Gaza. Not the Palestinian people, not

1602
00:51:38,019 --> 00:51:40,519
a two state solution, not the Palestinians themselves,

1603
00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:42,980
nothing of that. It's just we're gonna get

1604
00:51:42,980 --> 00:51:44,579
some other foreign governments to come in there.

1605
00:51:44,579 --> 00:51:46,500
And I bet you those foreign governments would

1606
00:51:46,500 --> 00:51:48,280
like to have a piece of that,

1607
00:51:48,674 --> 00:51:50,234
you know, that real estate that we all

1608
00:51:50,234 --> 00:51:52,315
know that they're after and that, Jared Kushner

1609
00:51:52,315 --> 00:51:53,835
and others would love to have. And even

1610
00:51:53,835 --> 00:51:56,074
Trump shared, you know, those freaking AI generated

1611
00:51:56,074 --> 00:51:58,474
videos of him and Netanyahu hanging out on

1612
00:51:58,474 --> 00:52:00,155
the beach and stuff like that. Doctor. Right.

1613
00:52:00,155 --> 00:52:02,480
So it's it's really demoralizing

1614
00:52:02,860 --> 00:52:05,360
and frustrating to me, man, because this is

1615
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:07,340
in my view and my perspective, all of

1616
00:52:07,340 --> 00:52:09,340
this and the battle that the Palestinian people

1617
00:52:09,340 --> 00:52:11,679
have been fighting for generations now

1618
00:52:12,380 --> 00:52:14,320
is just another legacy of colonization.

1619
00:52:14,780 --> 00:52:16,000
And, you know, colonization

1620
00:52:16,300 --> 00:52:18,515
obviously has impacted the entire world, but this

1621
00:52:18,515 --> 00:52:20,035
is, like, one of the places in the

1622
00:52:20,035 --> 00:52:22,515
world where it's still ongoing, where there's a

1623
00:52:22,515 --> 00:52:25,394
people who are being colonized by people from

1624
00:52:25,394 --> 00:52:26,835
around the world just because they happen to

1625
00:52:26,835 --> 00:52:28,434
be Jews. And that's not to say that

1626
00:52:28,434 --> 00:52:29,715
the people who are I have friends who

1627
00:52:29,715 --> 00:52:31,235
are born and raised in Israel, and they

1628
00:52:31,235 --> 00:52:32,535
didn't start this conflict.

1629
00:52:33,179 --> 00:52:34,880
They're not to blame for it necessarily.

1630
00:52:35,260 --> 00:52:37,179
But I do think there's something that that

1631
00:52:37,179 --> 00:52:39,099
people need to come to atone for is

1632
00:52:39,099 --> 00:52:41,019
that like, well, the land you are living

1633
00:52:41,019 --> 00:52:43,179
on though did belong to somebody else. And

1634
00:52:43,179 --> 00:52:44,699
even if it's not your fault and you

1635
00:52:44,699 --> 00:52:46,059
were born into this and, you know, I'm

1636
00:52:46,059 --> 00:52:47,744
not saying you need to be exterminated or

1637
00:52:47,744 --> 00:52:50,101
I don't not even necessarily saying you need

1638
00:52:50,101 --> 00:52:52,195
to be taken out of your home. But

1639
00:52:52,195 --> 00:52:54,289
at the very least, these people should be

1640
00:52:54,289 --> 00:52:56,384
allowed to exist where they have been, where

1641
00:52:56,384 --> 00:52:58,478
their, you know, their ancestors have been and

1642
00:52:58,478 --> 00:53:00,834
where, you know, they were born into instead

1643
00:53:00,834 --> 00:53:02,660
of being removed. And it shouldn't be this

1644
00:53:02,660 --> 00:53:03,559
sort of paternal,

1645
00:53:04,260 --> 00:53:06,579
which is, unfortunately, the way that government works,

1646
00:53:06,579 --> 00:53:08,500
this sort of paternal system that says, well,

1647
00:53:08,500 --> 00:53:10,420
we're going to, from on high, kind of

1648
00:53:10,420 --> 00:53:12,260
dictate what these people should do because we

1649
00:53:12,260 --> 00:53:13,700
know what's better for them, when really it

1650
00:53:13,700 --> 00:53:15,764
just comes down to that the world is

1651
00:53:15,764 --> 00:53:18,244
beholden by the Zionist regime. Most of the

1652
00:53:18,244 --> 00:53:20,405
western nations are, as as this audience knows

1653
00:53:20,405 --> 00:53:22,565
very well, and they will not allow a

1654
00:53:22,565 --> 00:53:25,444
situation where Israel does not have the upper

1655
00:53:25,444 --> 00:53:27,204
hand. And that's what it all comes down

1656
00:53:27,204 --> 00:53:29,050
to. Right. And I would argue each one

1657
00:53:29,050 --> 00:53:30,889
of those countries they're pointing to would, in

1658
00:53:30,889 --> 00:53:32,730
their own way, allow Israel to rule Gaza

1659
00:53:32,730 --> 00:53:34,650
through them, if not blatantly over the top

1660
00:53:34,650 --> 00:53:35,929
of all of them, which is probably what's

1661
00:53:35,929 --> 00:53:37,609
really gonna happen. You know? So it's it's

1662
00:53:37,609 --> 00:53:39,469
just very it's it's infuriating

1663
00:53:39,769 --> 00:53:41,130
that we have to They're all just puppets

1664
00:53:41,130 --> 00:53:42,510
of Israel in their own way.

1665
00:53:43,414 --> 00:53:45,175
Yeah. I agree. I agree. And what what's

1666
00:53:45,175 --> 00:53:47,094
frustrating is that this you know, the the

1667
00:53:47,094 --> 00:53:49,014
the sentiment being pushed out about them being

1668
00:53:49,014 --> 00:53:51,414
decided or you know, every single element of

1669
00:53:51,414 --> 00:53:52,855
this, not to get into it today because,

1670
00:53:52,855 --> 00:53:54,855
you know, we're just touching on this, all

1671
00:53:54,855 --> 00:53:56,295
of it are based on lies from the

1672
00:53:56,295 --> 00:53:58,349
occupation itself to the, you know, the the

1673
00:53:58,349 --> 00:54:00,269
illusion of what's really going on, the election

1674
00:54:00,269 --> 00:54:02,030
of Hamas, the funding of Hamas, you know,

1675
00:54:02,030 --> 00:54:03,470
and it's just so frustrating. We still have

1676
00:54:03,470 --> 00:54:05,070
to play games with people that are being

1677
00:54:05,070 --> 00:54:07,070
willfully dishonest or have no idea what they're

1678
00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:08,670
talking about in the context of all of

1679
00:54:08,670 --> 00:54:10,590
this. The world is aware of what Israel

1680
00:54:10,590 --> 00:54:12,585
is. And as your point, that's not all

1681
00:54:12,585 --> 00:54:14,824
Jews or all anything other than the people

1682
00:54:14,824 --> 00:54:16,744
in the Zionist government committing these crimes. You

1683
00:54:16,744 --> 00:54:18,585
know? And that's what and and through that,

1684
00:54:18,585 --> 00:54:21,065
who they manipulate. You know? And this the

1685
00:54:21,065 --> 00:54:23,559
world sees this. Like, that that their claims

1686
00:54:23,559 --> 00:54:25,639
have no power anymore in regard to Zionist

1687
00:54:25,639 --> 00:54:27,639
lying about racism and so on. It has

1688
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:29,000
fallen apart. You know? And that's why it's

1689
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:30,679
so important that we keep pushing on this

1690
00:54:30,679 --> 00:54:32,440
story because it I mean, there's people that

1691
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:34,599
have pointed this early on and said that

1692
00:54:34,599 --> 00:54:36,135
this and I I made a similar point

1693
00:54:36,135 --> 00:54:37,574
about how long we would talk about what

1694
00:54:37,574 --> 00:54:38,775
this is, and I believe it's gonna go

1695
00:54:38,775 --> 00:54:40,454
on for centuries at the very least. It's

1696
00:54:40,454 --> 00:54:42,934
a very huge moment for what this if

1697
00:54:42,934 --> 00:54:44,535
if, you know, assuming it goes in the

1698
00:54:44,535 --> 00:54:46,375
right direction where the world will be different

1699
00:54:46,375 --> 00:54:48,375
forever because they'll finally get to see what

1700
00:54:48,375 --> 00:54:49,894
they've been doing in so many ways around

1701
00:54:49,894 --> 00:54:51,410
the world, and that's going to have a

1702
00:54:51,410 --> 00:54:53,170
major changing point. You know, it's it just

1703
00:54:53,250 --> 00:54:55,910
it's a very important time for us to

1704
00:54:55,970 --> 00:54:57,410
stick to our principles, to put a pine

1705
00:54:57,570 --> 00:54:58,930
point on it. You know? I really think

1706
00:54:58,930 --> 00:54:59,750
so. Absolutely.

1707
00:55:00,050 --> 00:55:01,890
Absolutely. Let's let's talk let's talk about the

1708
00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:03,410
Iran overlap to that since you're already you're

1709
00:55:03,410 --> 00:55:05,264
already pointing to that as well. Because right

1710
00:55:05,264 --> 00:55:07,744
now, obviously, Israel is now, you know, it

1711
00:55:07,744 --> 00:55:10,385
it what is it? Six different fronts currently

1712
00:55:10,385 --> 00:55:12,545
involved with bombing multiple countries, five at the

1713
00:55:12,545 --> 00:55:13,204
very least?

1714
00:55:13,744 --> 00:55:15,744
This is what Donald Trump put out. Well,

1715
00:55:15,744 --> 00:55:17,905
this overlaps with his going into the Iran

1716
00:55:17,905 --> 00:55:19,619
part we'll finish with. But this is actually

1717
00:55:19,619 --> 00:55:21,940
a real post. Candace Owens shared this. She

1718
00:55:21,940 --> 00:55:23,699
said, I legitimately had to cross check truth

1719
00:55:23,699 --> 00:55:24,980
social to see if this was real, and

1720
00:55:24,980 --> 00:55:26,420
it's real. For anyone who would like to

1721
00:55:26,420 --> 00:55:28,260
take a deeper look into bbnet and yahoo,

1722
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:29,539
check out the b b files, which if

1723
00:55:29,539 --> 00:55:31,699
you haven't, my god, it'll blow your mind.

1724
00:55:31,699 --> 00:55:32,980
I mean, it is it's everything we've already

1725
00:55:32,980 --> 00:55:34,275
talked about, but this guy is hated by

1726
00:55:34,275 --> 00:55:36,555
the Is that a documentary? Or is it

1727
00:55:36,555 --> 00:55:38,954
literally fun? I think I've downloaded that a

1728
00:55:38,954 --> 00:55:41,195
while back when that came out. Yeah. Yeah.

1729
00:55:41,195 --> 00:55:42,715
It's wild. I mean, for one thing that

1730
00:55:42,715 --> 00:55:44,474
jumps to my head, Miriam Adelson, for all

1731
00:55:44,474 --> 00:55:45,755
her power and the family and the money

1732
00:55:45,755 --> 00:55:47,969
behind them, is is on leaked video saying

1733
00:55:47,969 --> 00:55:49,329
that if I say the wrong things that

1734
00:55:49,329 --> 00:55:51,329
he'll kill her, that they'll they'll kill me,

1735
00:55:51,329 --> 00:55:53,570
you know, and with no no humor. I

1736
00:55:53,570 --> 00:55:55,570
mean and there's so many different points that

1737
00:55:55,570 --> 00:55:57,250
all these people, like, lying and trying to

1738
00:55:57,250 --> 00:55:59,694
cover up, and nobody likes him. Everybody in

1739
00:55:59,775 --> 00:56:01,135
ever even right now, they're trying to get

1740
00:56:01,135 --> 00:56:02,734
it removed, and Trump's now trying to defend

1741
00:56:02,734 --> 00:56:05,135
him saying it's terrible. What's happening? So here

1742
00:56:05,214 --> 00:56:06,655
here's the same kind of sentiment. And he

1743
00:56:06,655 --> 00:56:07,775
says, I was shocked to hear that the

1744
00:56:07,775 --> 00:56:09,214
state of Israel By the way, we can't

1745
00:56:09,214 --> 00:56:10,594
see your screen right now.

1746
00:56:11,054 --> 00:56:13,179
Oh, thank you. Thank you. Either way, it's

1747
00:56:13,179 --> 00:56:14,940
just a a post from True Social. It

1748
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:16,300
says, I was shocked to hear and then

1749
00:56:16,300 --> 00:56:17,099
here just so you could see it. This

1750
00:56:17,099 --> 00:56:18,960
is what Candace Owens was saying first.

1751
00:56:19,660 --> 00:56:20,860
I I was shocked to hear that the

1752
00:56:20,860 --> 00:56:23,179
state of Israel, which had had which has

1753
00:56:23,179 --> 00:56:25,340
just had one of its greatest moments in

1754
00:56:25,340 --> 00:56:25,840
history.

1755
00:56:26,335 --> 00:56:27,375
I mean, I'm not even sure what he's

1756
00:56:27,695 --> 00:56:29,375
it's what what does he mean? The bombing

1757
00:56:29,375 --> 00:56:31,135
of Iran? And it says, and is strongly

1758
00:56:31,135 --> 00:56:33,795
led by by Netanyahu, is continuing its ridiculous

1759
00:56:34,094 --> 00:56:35,614
witch hunt. Like, I'm

1760
00:56:36,255 --> 00:56:37,155
against against,

1761
00:56:37,775 --> 00:56:38,275
Netanyahu.

1762
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:40,390
You know, all the evidence they have, multiple

1763
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:42,309
indictments, all the different people, and indictments aren't

1764
00:56:42,309 --> 00:56:44,309
proof, but the evidence is unreal. And all

1765
00:56:44,309 --> 00:56:45,429
the different times, the only reason he's not

1766
00:56:45,429 --> 00:56:46,789
in prison is because he started all these

1767
00:56:46,789 --> 00:56:48,710
different wars. Even Horets will tell you that.

1768
00:56:48,710 --> 00:56:50,550
And this goes on to basically say, you

1769
00:56:50,550 --> 00:56:51,530
know, they,

1770
00:56:52,535 --> 00:56:53,974
where did he he says, BB and I

1771
00:56:53,974 --> 00:56:55,735
just went through hell together fighting a very

1772
00:56:55,735 --> 00:56:58,375
tough, brilliant, long time enemy of Israel, Iran,

1773
00:56:58,375 --> 00:57:00,215
by what? Bombing them a few times? He's

1774
00:57:00,215 --> 00:57:01,675
so bombastic and hyperbolic.

1775
00:57:02,215 --> 00:57:04,614
Stronger is love for the incredible holy land.

1776
00:57:04,614 --> 00:57:05,494
I mean, you get the point of it.

1777
00:57:05,494 --> 00:57:06,570
I don't have to read it all. But

1778
00:57:06,570 --> 00:57:08,910
the calling from the from the pardon him.

1779
00:57:09,289 --> 00:57:10,650
You know, it it's just I agree. It's

1780
00:57:10,650 --> 00:57:12,010
insane for him to come out and say

1781
00:57:12,010 --> 00:57:13,369
it's now. So what do you first actually,

1782
00:57:13,369 --> 00:57:15,210
just on that one tweet, what's your take

1783
00:57:15,210 --> 00:57:16,489
on that? Does that suggest to you that

1784
00:57:16,489 --> 00:57:18,829
he's compromised or that he just is that

1785
00:57:19,155 --> 00:57:20,594
far supporting them? I mean, how do you

1786
00:57:20,594 --> 00:57:22,914
say this? Well, what he knows, his base

1787
00:57:22,914 --> 00:57:24,135
thinks about this guy.

1788
00:57:25,315 --> 00:57:26,994
I just think Trump is full of shit.

1789
00:57:26,994 --> 00:57:29,394
I mean, there's just no what no other

1790
00:57:29,394 --> 00:57:30,835
way to put it. I mean, like, I

1791
00:57:30,835 --> 00:57:33,155
saw that same, post from Truth Social going

1792
00:57:33,155 --> 00:57:34,820
around and some of the reporting on it.

1793
00:57:34,820 --> 00:57:35,940
And, yeah, I mean, I had the same

1794
00:57:35,940 --> 00:57:38,179
reaction, like, what universe is this guy living

1795
00:57:38,179 --> 00:57:40,500
in? Like, even even, like you said, his

1796
00:57:40,500 --> 00:57:43,059
own base isn't fans of Netanyahu, and they're

1797
00:57:43,059 --> 00:57:46,005
having to twist themselves into, you know, knots

1798
00:57:46,085 --> 00:57:48,244
and use mental gymnastics to kind of make

1799
00:57:48,244 --> 00:57:49,605
it make sense for them. And here he

1800
00:57:49,605 --> 00:57:50,344
is openly,

1801
00:57:50,804 --> 00:57:52,884
you know, embracing him and claiming that he

1802
00:57:52,884 --> 00:57:54,724
he is this great hero. And you also

1803
00:57:54,724 --> 00:57:59,065
rightfully pointed out that prior to October 2023,

1804
00:57:59,210 --> 00:58:00,969
and this whole thing this latest, you know,

1805
00:58:00,969 --> 00:58:03,069
of course, Israel has been massacring the Palestinians

1806
00:58:03,130 --> 00:58:06,429
for for generations now. But the October 2023,

1807
00:58:06,889 --> 00:58:10,409
Netanyahu was already, like, slated for, impeachment and,

1808
00:58:10,409 --> 00:58:12,809
you know, things were rising up, investigations against

1809
00:58:12,809 --> 00:58:15,535
him. And being a wartime president, as Trump

1810
00:58:15,535 --> 00:58:17,775
has said there, has allowed him to extend

1811
00:58:17,775 --> 00:58:19,614
his power and kind of delay the inevitable.

1812
00:58:19,614 --> 00:58:21,215
And now that it's happening, of course, Trump's

1813
00:58:21,215 --> 00:58:24,195
coming to his, his aid and defending him.

1814
00:58:24,255 --> 00:58:26,035
It's not surprising to me, but

1815
00:58:26,335 --> 00:58:28,035
it does just show, I think, how,

1816
00:58:28,469 --> 00:58:31,210
like, I've never truly understood the Trump

1817
00:58:31,909 --> 00:58:35,050
fascination, the Trump deception. Like, I've I've legitimately

1818
00:58:35,190 --> 00:58:37,269
tried to and listened to some of Trump's

1819
00:58:37,269 --> 00:58:38,789
talks and to see, like, what is it

1820
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:40,630
that people are getting. And I think that,

1821
00:58:40,630 --> 00:58:42,949
for me, it plays on the lowest base

1822
00:58:42,949 --> 00:58:43,849
human emotions.

1823
00:58:44,195 --> 00:58:45,335
Like you said, he's bombastic.

1824
00:58:45,715 --> 00:58:47,255
He likes to make fun of people.

1825
00:58:47,554 --> 00:58:49,155
Look at those stupid, you know, fake news

1826
00:58:49,155 --> 00:58:50,934
and everybody cheers and laughs or

1827
00:58:51,315 --> 00:58:53,175
or the other thing, he tugs their heartstrings

1828
00:58:53,315 --> 00:58:55,074
and, like, here's this mother whose child was

1829
00:58:55,074 --> 00:58:56,835
killed by an immigrant. You know, I'm gonna

1830
00:58:56,835 --> 00:58:58,289
stand and fight for them. The other big

1831
00:58:58,289 --> 00:59:00,369
thing is, of course, his statements he said

1832
00:59:00,369 --> 00:59:03,090
multiple times that it's they're not coming after

1833
00:59:03,090 --> 00:59:05,090
me. They're coming after you, and I'm standing

1834
00:59:05,090 --> 00:59:06,550
in the way. There's a lot of psychological

1835
00:59:06,769 --> 00:59:08,769
stuff going on here that I think pulls

1836
00:59:08,769 --> 00:59:10,849
people in so that they identify with Trump

1837
00:59:10,849 --> 00:59:12,130
and really kind of have this,

1838
00:59:13,094 --> 00:59:15,894
this almost unbreakable bond. Thankfully, it is breakable,

1839
00:59:15,894 --> 00:59:17,494
and some people do wake up from it

1840
00:59:17,494 --> 00:59:19,414
as I've heard over recent weeks. People saying,

1841
00:59:19,414 --> 00:59:21,255
yeah. I voted for him, but I'm regretting

1842
00:59:21,255 --> 00:59:23,175
it. You know, this and that. But, yeah,

1843
00:59:23,175 --> 00:59:25,655
I just think that there's just Trump doesn't

1844
00:59:25,655 --> 00:59:27,539
have much. You know, he's not a deep

1845
00:59:27,539 --> 00:59:28,599
philosophical thinker.

1846
00:59:28,900 --> 00:59:29,640
He's not

1847
00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:31,640
a eloquent speaker.

1848
00:59:32,340 --> 00:59:34,680
He doesn't have much to offer other than

1849
00:59:34,739 --> 00:59:35,239
bombastic,

1850
00:59:36,019 --> 00:59:37,719
you know, lies and,

1851
00:59:38,260 --> 00:59:40,715
playing on people's emotions. And the fact that

1852
00:59:40,715 --> 00:59:42,394
anybody can see that and buy into it

1853
00:59:42,474 --> 00:59:44,235
of course, you got the Laura Laura Loomers

1854
00:59:44,235 --> 00:59:45,675
of the world and people who follow her,

1855
00:59:45,675 --> 00:59:47,114
who will love and, you know, and cheer

1856
00:59:47,114 --> 00:59:48,554
that on. But I don't think that the

1857
00:59:48,554 --> 00:59:50,394
majority of MAGA I don't think that that

1858
00:59:50,394 --> 00:59:53,594
the majority of MAGA does want this relationship

1859
00:59:53,594 --> 00:59:54,335
with Netanyahu.

1860
00:59:54,650 --> 00:59:56,010
But the problem is, and this goes back

1861
00:59:56,010 --> 00:59:57,210
to what we were saying earlier in the

1862
00:59:57,210 --> 00:59:59,210
conversation, is some people are still stuck on

1863
00:59:59,210 --> 00:59:59,710
personalities,

1864
01:00:00,090 --> 01:00:01,630
and they don't know how to,

1865
01:00:02,010 --> 01:00:03,930
to kind of pull that apart and and

1866
01:00:03,930 --> 01:00:06,250
allow space in their mind of, okay. Maybe

1867
01:00:06,250 --> 01:00:07,769
I did vote for Trump. I do think

1868
01:00:07,769 --> 01:00:09,309
he's better than Kamala,

1869
01:00:09,625 --> 01:00:10,125
but

1870
01:00:10,505 --> 01:00:12,265
still, this doesn't line up with what I

1871
01:00:12,265 --> 01:00:13,864
am fighting for. This doesn't line up with

1872
01:00:13,864 --> 01:00:15,224
what I voted for. This doesn't line up

1873
01:00:15,224 --> 01:00:16,825
with what I believe. In fact, it goes

1874
01:00:16,825 --> 01:00:18,425
against it. It does not only not align,

1875
01:00:18,425 --> 01:00:20,265
but it goes right against the very principles

1876
01:00:20,265 --> 01:00:22,184
I believe in. And you see this also

1877
01:00:22,184 --> 01:00:25,019
with, like, him, you know, attacking Thomas Massie.

1878
01:00:25,159 --> 01:00:26,920
I don't agree with Thomas Massie on maybe

1879
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:28,359
everything in the world, but and I know

1880
01:00:28,359 --> 01:00:30,119
there's some people who have concerns about some

1881
01:00:30,119 --> 01:00:30,780
of his,

1882
01:00:31,319 --> 01:00:31,819
connections.

1883
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:34,440
But as far as politics go, he he's

1884
01:00:34,440 --> 01:00:37,000
the most principled person in the political game.

1885
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:38,925
Like, let's just say that. Right? Yeah. And

1886
01:00:39,085 --> 01:00:41,724
and easily easily. And for Trump to have

1887
01:00:41,724 --> 01:00:43,244
such a fit and wanna go after him

1888
01:00:43,244 --> 01:00:44,864
because he's not towing the line,

1889
01:00:45,324 --> 01:00:46,605
you know, and and some of his base

1890
01:00:46,605 --> 01:00:48,285
are buying it, and they're ready to primary

1891
01:00:48,285 --> 01:00:49,405
him and try to get him out of

1892
01:00:49,405 --> 01:00:51,164
office. They tried that, and they didn't succeed,

1893
01:00:51,164 --> 01:00:52,605
which I think is funny too to watch

1894
01:00:52,605 --> 01:00:53,639
them fail at that.

1895
01:00:54,039 --> 01:00:55,799
But either way, the point is like somebody

1896
01:00:55,799 --> 01:00:58,519
who's actually who was supportive of Trump and,

1897
01:00:58,519 --> 01:01:00,519
you know, bought into the narrative because, okay,

1898
01:01:00,519 --> 01:01:02,039
well, he's gonna do some of these good

1899
01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:03,420
things, Doge, etcetera,

1900
01:01:03,799 --> 01:01:06,039
is now saying, hey, Louis, he's he's going

1901
01:01:06,039 --> 01:01:07,420
to war without authorization.

1902
01:01:07,925 --> 01:01:10,085
The big the stupid bill, and I'm gonna

1903
01:01:10,085 --> 01:01:11,445
call it what he calls it, the stupid

1904
01:01:11,445 --> 01:01:13,605
big bill is, you know, gonna add all

1905
01:01:13,605 --> 01:01:14,905
this money to the deficit.

1906
01:01:15,284 --> 01:01:17,284
And Massey is just speaking truth about it

1907
01:01:17,284 --> 01:01:19,125
and Trump can't handle it. This just shows

1908
01:01:19,125 --> 01:01:21,119
me too that even though people want to

1909
01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,059
ignore it because they think it's just leftist

1910
01:01:23,119 --> 01:01:23,619
TDS,

1911
01:01:24,159 --> 01:01:26,099
Trump has an authoritarian streak

1912
01:01:26,719 --> 01:01:27,460
and he

1913
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:28,900
demands obedience

1914
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:29,940
to him.

1915
01:01:30,719 --> 01:01:32,019
That's the sign of an authoritarian.

1916
01:01:32,480 --> 01:01:35,434
So it's not just leftist, mainstream media, George

1917
01:01:35,434 --> 01:01:38,074
Soros talking points to acknowledge that. You can

1918
01:01:38,074 --> 01:01:39,994
see all of the personality traits in Trump

1919
01:01:39,994 --> 01:01:42,474
that he demands allegiance and obedience and the

1920
01:01:42,474 --> 01:01:43,855
people who don't give it,

1921
01:01:44,235 --> 01:01:45,675
you know, he's ready to toss them under

1922
01:01:45,675 --> 01:01:46,335
the bus.

1923
01:01:46,670 --> 01:01:48,349
I mean and that's let's be clear. That's

1924
01:01:48,349 --> 01:01:50,829
actually an acknowledged point within a lot of

1925
01:01:50,829 --> 01:01:53,150
the team sport politics hierarchy and all, like,

1926
01:01:53,150 --> 01:01:55,070
you know, that you don't counter signal the

1927
01:01:55,070 --> 01:01:56,750
leader. You know, like, I've seen these statements

1928
01:01:56,750 --> 01:01:58,590
out there. Or even Mary Tal, we just

1929
01:01:58,590 --> 01:02:00,829
mentioned Bowden. She she says she got all

1930
01:02:00,829 --> 01:02:03,045
these people in her DM saying, just tone

1931
01:02:03,045 --> 01:02:05,045
down. Don't say those things right now. Don't

1932
01:02:05,045 --> 01:02:06,244
say it because you're hurt you know, it's

1933
01:02:06,244 --> 01:02:07,925
like, it's the truth though. And you know

1934
01:02:07,925 --> 01:02:09,045
it's the truth and you're asking me to

1935
01:02:09,125 --> 01:02:10,344
You're gonna hurt the movement.

1936
01:02:10,885 --> 01:02:13,284
Yeah, man. It's it's very, very clear in

1937
01:02:13,284 --> 01:02:14,484
all of this. And, you know, like I

1938
01:02:14,484 --> 01:02:16,940
said, it is Trump first, not America first

1939
01:02:16,940 --> 01:02:18,460
for a lot of these people. And some

1940
01:02:18,460 --> 01:02:19,900
of them, like a cat turd out there,

1941
01:02:19,900 --> 01:02:21,900
will be honest about that and say, I

1942
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:23,739
will always trust Trump, and I'll always cyber

1943
01:02:23,739 --> 01:02:25,500
Trump. It's like you're basically saying what we

1944
01:02:25,500 --> 01:02:27,260
all laugh about. You know? It's just it's

1945
01:02:27,260 --> 01:02:28,960
very clear on that. Our point.

1946
01:02:29,420 --> 01:02:29,920
Exactly.

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01:02:30,219 --> 01:02:30,719
Exactly.

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01:02:31,344 --> 01:02:33,265
But so to to finish on the Iran

1949
01:02:33,265 --> 01:02:35,184
overlap to all of it, the the what's

1950
01:02:35,344 --> 01:02:36,785
this this is a tweet from Aaron Mate.

1951
01:02:36,785 --> 01:02:37,744
I don't know if you saw this. Well,

1952
01:02:37,744 --> 01:02:38,864
I wanna talk about a few things to

1953
01:02:38,864 --> 01:02:40,785
just wrap up in general. Your thoughts about

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01:02:40,785 --> 01:02:42,465
where where we are with Iran, the back

1955
01:02:42,465 --> 01:02:43,559
and forth. We don't have to go in

1956
01:02:43,559 --> 01:02:44,893
all of it, but just whatever strikes your

1957
01:02:44,893 --> 01:02:46,680
mind right now is interesting in the bombing

1958
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:48,760
of the the basin cutter, the possibility that

1959
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,000
people were warned and they were removed. We

1960
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:52,360
have the sleeper cell point that I will

1961
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:53,559
make a point on before we wrap that

1962
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,480
I think is very interesting. Aaron said this

1963
01:02:55,559 --> 01:02:57,465
said we saw this Washington Post thing. Now

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01:02:57,465 --> 01:02:58,905
he says, not that we need any more

1965
01:02:58,905 --> 01:03:00,985
confirmation, but the Washington Post reports that the

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01:03:00,985 --> 01:03:03,864
Israeli US attack on Iran was decided months

1967
01:03:03,864 --> 01:03:05,785
earlier. And we I we've already reported this.

1968
01:03:05,785 --> 01:03:07,305
Now we're not taking this based on what

1969
01:03:07,305 --> 01:03:09,385
Washington Post has to say. The the facts

1970
01:03:09,385 --> 01:03:11,224
they're pointing to have been confirmed in multiple

1971
01:03:11,224 --> 01:03:13,539
ways and saying that decided months earlier that

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01:03:13,539 --> 01:03:14,980
they had nothing to do with nuclear weapons,

1973
01:03:14,980 --> 01:03:16,980
that they already decided. Even, I think it

1974
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:17,480
was,

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01:03:18,420 --> 01:03:20,699
was it Rubio? Admitted that essentially after March

1976
01:03:20,699 --> 01:03:22,019
7 was when they had already made the

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01:03:22,019 --> 01:03:24,500
decision. And it says senior Israeli officials say

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01:03:24,500 --> 01:03:26,655
they already decided by March, that was the

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01:03:26,655 --> 01:03:28,494
one I was referencing, to attack Iran the

1980
01:03:28,494 --> 01:03:30,494
same month The US intel community assessed that

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01:03:30,494 --> 01:03:32,655
Iran had no nuclear weapons program. We didn't

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01:03:32,655 --> 01:03:33,635
touch on that either.

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01:03:34,015 --> 01:03:36,974
The Gabbard, you know, basically saying the truth,

1984
01:03:36,974 --> 01:03:38,974
IAEA saying the truth, Trump saying he doesn't

1985
01:03:38,974 --> 01:03:40,900
care, and then her just lying about what

1986
01:03:40,900 --> 01:03:42,980
she said. It's very weird. The reason, it

1987
01:03:42,980 --> 01:03:44,420
goes on to say, was that Iran would

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01:03:44,420 --> 01:03:46,420
have rebuilt its air defenses by the latter

1989
01:03:46,420 --> 01:03:48,420
half of the year, exactly, which gave Israel

1990
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:51,300
a unique opportunity to execute plans, carefully laid

1991
01:03:51,300 --> 01:03:52,599
plans, and years in advance

1992
01:03:52,985 --> 01:03:55,625
to heavily damage a weakened Iran. They that's

1993
01:03:55,625 --> 01:03:57,465
what they wrote. Just to underscore the point,

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01:03:57,465 --> 01:03:59,784
the choice to attack was not so much

1995
01:03:59,784 --> 01:04:01,965
driven by new intelligence indicating an Iranian

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01:04:02,425 --> 01:04:04,585
sprint for a nuclear weapon or any imminent

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01:04:04,585 --> 01:04:06,445
threat to Israel. Direct quote from the article.

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01:04:06,585 --> 01:04:08,739
So very, very telling, but, you know, not

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01:04:08,739 --> 01:04:10,260
not news to you and I automatically, but

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01:04:10,260 --> 01:04:12,019
what are your thoughts? No. It's it's definitely

2001
01:04:12,019 --> 01:04:13,859
not news, and and, yeah, there's a couple

2002
01:04:13,859 --> 01:04:15,059
of points you brought up there that I'll

2003
01:04:15,059 --> 01:04:16,500
I'll comment on. I mean, for one, I

2004
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:18,980
hadn't seen that specific post article, but this

2005
01:04:18,980 --> 01:04:21,059
is something that others have suspected. I've seen

2006
01:04:21,059 --> 01:04:24,394
some reporting elsewhere that the for one, like

2007
01:04:24,394 --> 01:04:27,034
you said, Gabbard, like, totally flip flopping. She

2008
01:04:27,034 --> 01:04:29,034
shared the video where the video literally says

2009
01:04:29,034 --> 01:04:30,554
the opposite of what she says, and and

2010
01:04:30,554 --> 01:04:33,675
it's just I think these people think that

2011
01:04:33,675 --> 01:04:34,894
MAGA is stupid

2012
01:04:35,239 --> 01:04:36,599
or that a lot of people are blind

2013
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:38,359
or they they're still realizing that we have

2014
01:04:38,359 --> 01:04:39,960
the Internet and we can, you know, pull

2015
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,199
up clips and stuff like that. Desperate. It

2016
01:04:42,199 --> 01:04:44,359
could be desperate. Desperate. Yeah. And and I

2017
01:04:44,359 --> 01:04:46,440
think also, though, again, just I'm gonna hammer

2018
01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:48,119
the point home again. These people have no

2019
01:04:48,119 --> 01:04:49,625
principles. You know, if they did have them,

2020
01:04:49,625 --> 01:04:51,144
they're willing to sell them out when it

2021
01:04:51,144 --> 01:04:51,964
comes to Trump.

2022
01:04:52,344 --> 01:04:53,864
And you also made a great point a

2023
01:04:53,864 --> 01:04:55,625
couple of moments ago about you see this

2024
01:04:55,625 --> 01:04:57,784
often in in the political world, which is

2025
01:04:57,784 --> 01:04:59,304
the reason why I think it's it's it's

2026
01:04:59,304 --> 01:05:02,159
kind of inherently set up to make people

2027
01:05:02,619 --> 01:05:04,460
abandon principles. Because once you get in there

2028
01:05:04,460 --> 01:05:05,739
and maybe you think you're gonna do something

2029
01:05:05,739 --> 01:05:07,659
good, but then you're not supposed to do

2030
01:05:07,659 --> 01:05:09,099
what Thomas Massey is doing or others are

2031
01:05:09,099 --> 01:05:11,099
doing. You're supposed to always like, you know,

2032
01:05:11,099 --> 01:05:12,699
maybe privately you say, hey, I think I

2033
01:05:12,699 --> 01:05:14,454
have a problem with this. But publicly, you're

2034
01:05:14,454 --> 01:05:16,135
always supposed to praise the dear leader and

2035
01:05:16,135 --> 01:05:18,054
say, he's right. You know, we're stand together

2036
01:05:18,054 --> 01:05:19,815
with the party. And it's not about being

2037
01:05:19,894 --> 01:05:21,894
you know, doing what's right. It's not about

2038
01:05:21,894 --> 01:05:23,335
doing what you believe in. It's not about

2039
01:05:23,335 --> 01:05:25,974
your principles. It's just about maintaining a united

2040
01:05:25,974 --> 01:05:27,494
front. You know, we must look like we're

2041
01:05:27,494 --> 01:05:29,119
all on the same page for for the

2042
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:30,320
sake of appearance or whatever. And I think

2043
01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,340
that's just completely garbage. Like, if people

2044
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,280
actually had principles as Thomas Massey appears to,

2045
01:05:35,280 --> 01:05:36,980
at least in in this case,

2046
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:38,880
then stand on them. And and I said

2047
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:40,640
the same thing when they put RFK in

2048
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,364
there, and I was just telling people how,

2049
01:05:42,364 --> 01:05:44,284
you know, that they're failing on a lot

2050
01:05:44,284 --> 01:05:45,644
of fronts and people are like, Well, Derek,

2051
01:05:45,644 --> 01:05:47,684
if they come out too strong, it's going

2052
01:05:47,684 --> 01:05:48,925
to do this and they're not going to

2053
01:05:48,925 --> 01:05:50,445
succeed. And I just feel like if you

2054
01:05:50,445 --> 01:05:51,804
have your principles and if you got the

2055
01:05:51,804 --> 01:05:54,045
truth on your side, stand on that, right?

2056
01:05:54,045 --> 01:05:56,045
And if Tulsi Gabbard was who she claims

2057
01:05:56,045 --> 01:05:57,489
to be, this anti

2058
01:05:57,869 --> 01:05:59,789
war, cool surfer chick who's just one of

2059
01:05:59,789 --> 01:06:00,989
the guy, you know, one of the cool

2060
01:06:00,989 --> 01:06:02,049
people on our team,

2061
01:06:02,829 --> 01:06:04,670
then stand on that and stand proudly and

2062
01:06:04,670 --> 01:06:06,989
say, Look, I voted for Trump. I'm happy

2063
01:06:06,989 --> 01:06:08,210
to be a part of this cabinet.

2064
01:06:08,510 --> 01:06:09,489
I love my position

2065
01:06:09,894 --> 01:06:11,655
but they're wrong on this. And I don't

2066
01:06:11,655 --> 01:06:13,095
want to go down in history as being

2067
01:06:13,095 --> 01:06:15,015
wrong so I'm going to stand firm on

2068
01:06:15,015 --> 01:06:16,695
this. And maybe you get kicked out, maybe

2069
01:06:16,695 --> 01:06:18,295
they fire you. And at least the people

2070
01:06:18,295 --> 01:06:20,614
see that you stood on that but that's

2071
01:06:20,614 --> 01:06:21,894
not what a lot of these people are

2072
01:06:21,894 --> 01:06:24,590
capable of doing because they have political aspirations.

2073
01:06:24,590 --> 01:06:26,349
We have to remember that Tulsi Gabbard also

2074
01:06:26,349 --> 01:06:28,590
ran for president a couple times. Right. For

2075
01:06:28,590 --> 01:06:29,869
her, this could be a leg up to

2076
01:06:29,869 --> 01:06:31,469
the be the next candidate. Right? I mean,

2077
01:06:31,469 --> 01:06:33,550
that's typically how these people operate is they

2078
01:06:33,550 --> 01:06:35,469
want their positions, and they wanna show that

2079
01:06:35,469 --> 01:06:37,309
they held that position long, and they did

2080
01:06:37,309 --> 01:06:39,385
some great things, and now they have the

2081
01:06:39,385 --> 01:06:41,065
experience to be the commander in chief. Right?

2082
01:06:41,065 --> 01:06:42,744
So there's that kind of angle. And then

2083
01:06:42,744 --> 01:06:44,344
in terms of the whole sleeper cells stuff,

2084
01:06:44,344 --> 01:06:45,545
man, I know you have something else to

2085
01:06:45,545 --> 01:06:46,824
add to that. But just I'll just say

2086
01:06:46,824 --> 01:06:48,764
my initial thoughts, of course, were, like,

2087
01:06:49,065 --> 01:06:51,224
be prepared for a false flag. Be prepared

2088
01:06:51,224 --> 01:06:53,385
for something going on. I was reminded of

2089
01:06:53,385 --> 01:06:53,730
that,

2090
01:06:54,289 --> 01:06:54,789
really

2091
01:06:55,409 --> 01:06:58,289
telling and interesting sixty minutes report. I'm sure

2092
01:06:58,289 --> 01:06:59,889
you saw. There was this it was during

2093
01:06:59,889 --> 01:07:02,609
the Lebanon majors thing happened when they interviewed

2094
01:07:02,609 --> 01:07:05,010
this, like, masked Israeli, Massad Asian, whatever. And

2095
01:07:05,010 --> 01:07:06,789
he said something to the effect of, like,

2096
01:07:07,155 --> 01:07:09,315
we create the reality you guys are living

2097
01:07:09,315 --> 01:07:11,974
in. Right? And just how much the Israeli,

2098
01:07:12,994 --> 01:07:13,494
intelligence

2099
01:07:14,035 --> 01:07:16,614
is is doing that, is doing reality fabrication

2100
01:07:16,914 --> 01:07:19,320
and and psyops around us. And

2101
01:07:19,719 --> 01:07:21,820
more specifically, that they have the technology

2102
01:07:22,119 --> 01:07:23,960
to blow up pagers. In the way that

2103
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,239
that happened, we don't have time to get

2104
01:07:25,239 --> 01:07:27,239
into today but for those who don't, never

2105
01:07:27,239 --> 01:07:29,480
really follow that story, it wasn't just that

2106
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:31,559
they like randomly hack the pagers like they

2107
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:34,085
had to track down, okay, which company and

2108
01:07:34,085 --> 01:07:36,724
manufacturers are may use making the pagers that

2109
01:07:36,724 --> 01:07:38,885
the, Hezbollah is going to use, and then

2110
01:07:38,885 --> 01:07:41,465
they infected the assembly line and the manufacturing.

2111
01:07:41,764 --> 01:07:43,204
So then they could track them, and they

2112
01:07:43,204 --> 01:07:45,045
were tracking them for months just waiting for

2113
01:07:45,045 --> 01:07:46,965
the right time to to blow them up.

2114
01:07:46,965 --> 01:07:47,465
So

2115
01:07:48,380 --> 01:07:49,579
they could do the same thing in The

2116
01:07:49,579 --> 01:07:51,099
US if they wanted to. They could do

2117
01:07:51,099 --> 01:07:53,280
some false flag. They could have, you know,

2118
01:07:53,420 --> 01:07:55,579
Israeli sleeper sale cells go out and do

2119
01:07:55,579 --> 01:07:58,079
something. And, of course, there's always the possibility

2120
01:07:58,140 --> 01:08:00,219
that they just stage a cyberattack and then

2121
01:08:00,219 --> 01:08:02,054
blame it on Iran. They've already seen this,

2122
01:08:02,054 --> 01:08:03,655
and we saw this after the fact with

2123
01:08:03,655 --> 01:08:04,795
the, the alleged

2124
01:08:05,175 --> 01:08:06,795
assassination attempt in Butler

2125
01:08:07,414 --> 01:08:08,855
where they started trying to say that it

2126
01:08:08,855 --> 01:08:10,855
was somehow related to Iran, and that didn't

2127
01:08:10,855 --> 01:08:12,855
really catch on. I did some reporting too.

2128
01:08:12,855 --> 01:08:14,454
I was reviewing it recently. Right before the

2129
01:08:14,454 --> 01:08:16,600
election, there was, like, this, you know, intelligence

2130
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:18,199
out there that Iran may try to hack

2131
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:20,039
the U. S. Election. And they never really

2132
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:21,560
made anything of it but it was like

2133
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,199
they already stealing people's minds with that idea.

2134
01:08:24,199 --> 01:08:25,399
And so when you put that in the

2135
01:08:25,399 --> 01:08:27,239
full context, they have this whole record. They

2136
01:08:27,239 --> 01:08:28,725
can now look back and be like, Well,

2137
01:08:28,725 --> 01:08:30,664
we know Iran was involved in the assassination.

2138
01:08:30,725 --> 01:08:32,505
We know they tried to hack the election

2139
01:08:32,725 --> 01:08:35,125
and kind of build up this narrative that

2140
01:08:35,125 --> 01:08:37,204
they've been trying to get into us. And

2141
01:08:37,204 --> 01:08:38,965
now this is just the latest response, and

2142
01:08:38,965 --> 01:08:41,364
it's in response to our beautiful bombing of

2143
01:08:41,364 --> 01:08:42,885
that country that we all know is part

2144
01:08:42,885 --> 01:08:44,750
of the axis of evil that George Bush

2145
01:08:44,750 --> 01:08:46,430
told us about after nine eleven. It's like

2146
01:08:46,430 --> 01:08:47,569
this long game.

2147
01:08:47,869 --> 01:08:49,550
One other point on that, I reported this

2148
01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:51,470
on my show last night that I found

2149
01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:54,670
it really, really odd. I don't know. Interesting

2150
01:08:54,670 --> 01:08:57,704
that General Wesley Clark, who you know and

2151
01:08:57,864 --> 01:08:59,225
all both of our audiences know was the

2152
01:08:59,225 --> 01:09:01,305
man who said about the going into five

2153
01:09:01,305 --> 01:09:03,225
nation or seven nations in five years at

2154
01:09:03,225 --> 01:09:05,784
post nine eleven, including, he said, ending with

2155
01:09:05,784 --> 01:09:06,284
Iran.

2156
01:09:06,744 --> 01:09:07,244
Well,

2157
01:09:08,185 --> 01:09:09,405
now he's on MSNBC

2158
01:09:10,104 --> 01:09:11,805
sharing this sleeper cells propaganda,

2159
01:09:12,109 --> 01:09:13,789
which I thought was just really interesting. It's

2160
01:09:13,789 --> 01:09:15,630
like, this is the guy warning us about

2161
01:09:15,630 --> 01:09:17,550
the plan, which we've all seen play out

2162
01:09:17,550 --> 01:09:19,649
with them going to Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan,

2163
01:09:20,109 --> 01:09:21,869
you know, bombing in Somalia, bombing these other

2164
01:09:21,869 --> 01:09:24,189
countries, Yemen, getting control of that through Saudi

2165
01:09:24,189 --> 01:09:24,689
Arabia,

2166
01:09:25,125 --> 01:09:27,204
and then now going after Iran. And now

2167
01:09:27,204 --> 01:09:28,664
here he is on MSNBC

2168
01:09:29,684 --> 01:09:31,925
spreading propaganda about sleeper cells. And maybe he

2169
01:09:31,925 --> 01:09:33,684
knows something we don't, and maybe that is

2170
01:09:33,684 --> 01:09:35,364
a real threat, and we're just kind of

2171
01:09:35,364 --> 01:09:37,684
being naive here. But I find it very

2172
01:09:37,684 --> 01:09:39,329
suspicious that it's like the same guy who

2173
01:09:39,329 --> 01:09:41,329
told us about this plan is now out

2174
01:09:41,329 --> 01:09:42,770
there saying that we need to be careful

2175
01:09:42,770 --> 01:09:45,170
because Iranian sleeper cells are hiding in our

2176
01:09:45,170 --> 01:09:45,670
bushes.

2177
01:09:46,210 --> 01:09:47,570
Doctor. Right. Well, I I don't I doubt

2178
01:09:47,570 --> 01:09:49,670
either of us would ever doubt the possibility

2179
01:09:49,890 --> 01:09:50,630
or ever

2180
01:09:51,170 --> 01:09:53,649
blindly disregard that it could be happening. Like,

2181
01:09:53,649 --> 01:09:56,034
you know, what we want are facts, not

2182
01:09:56,034 --> 01:09:58,514
insinuations from intelligence that lies more often than

2183
01:09:58,514 --> 01:09:59,954
not. You know? So but the the idea

2184
01:09:59,954 --> 01:10:01,154
that there's any kind of a sleeper cell

2185
01:10:01,154 --> 01:10:03,154
from any government is obviously something that could

2186
01:10:03,154 --> 01:10:05,875
exist. But whether, you know, Israelis are doing

2187
01:10:05,875 --> 01:10:07,890
that in your point about the pager attack,

2188
01:10:07,970 --> 01:10:09,649
there's more evidence to that effect than anything

2189
01:10:09,649 --> 01:10:10,850
I've ever seen in my life. And the

2190
01:10:10,850 --> 01:10:13,670
idea of of whether, you know, attacking or

2191
01:10:14,130 --> 01:10:16,530
or deploying things that sit there for years

2192
01:10:16,530 --> 01:10:18,050
as they would argue, you know, and then

2193
01:10:18,050 --> 01:10:19,810
executing that, killing or hurt I think it

2194
01:10:19,810 --> 01:10:21,570
was hurting, 75%

2195
01:10:21,570 --> 01:10:22,850
of it was women and children. You know,

2196
01:10:22,850 --> 01:10:25,305
it's it's horrific stuff. But the possibility Or

2197
01:10:25,305 --> 01:10:26,125
as you said,

2198
01:10:26,505 --> 01:10:28,744
they said the world is our stage or

2199
01:10:28,744 --> 01:10:29,945
something like that. And then you said that

2200
01:10:29,945 --> 01:10:31,704
we you know, what you said, the second

2201
01:10:31,704 --> 01:10:33,385
part, where they're admitting to Doctor. Yeah. They

2202
01:10:33,385 --> 01:10:35,545
say we're creating reality for you and you're

2203
01:10:35,545 --> 01:10:37,460
just existing in it or something. Yeah. Like,

2204
01:10:37,460 --> 01:10:39,619
so they they're paraphrasing. So what they're basically

2205
01:10:39,619 --> 01:10:42,100
saying, you know, that we dictate anywhere or

2206
01:10:42,100 --> 01:10:44,020
the different times, the Knesset and people in

2207
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:45,380
you know, as their congress, for those who

2208
01:10:45,380 --> 01:10:46,840
don't know the term, for in Israel

2209
01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:49,539
openly say that we can legislate anywhere in

2210
01:10:49,539 --> 01:10:51,619
the world. International law does not bind us.

2211
01:10:51,619 --> 01:10:53,595
And that's very real. Many times, that's been

2212
01:10:53,595 --> 01:10:55,595
stated. All these things in the context show

2213
01:10:55,595 --> 01:10:57,114
you that that's very possible. Back to the

2214
01:10:57,114 --> 01:10:59,274
point about the Iran act dynamic. We should

2215
01:10:59,354 --> 01:11:01,274
we shouldn't disregard whether Iran could do that,

2216
01:11:01,274 --> 01:11:03,034
but the question is to what end? That

2217
01:11:03,034 --> 01:11:05,449
isn't if there is no provable end or

2218
01:11:05,449 --> 01:11:07,390
intention, that still doesn't mean it's not possible.

2219
01:11:07,449 --> 01:11:09,530
But ask why that would make sense. Okay?

2220
01:11:09,530 --> 01:11:11,689
So then if it's happening, right, so we

2221
01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:13,050
have people in this country, then we should

2222
01:11:13,050 --> 01:11:15,369
start looking for facts. Because what's interesting to

2223
01:11:15,369 --> 01:11:17,050
me is at the time, I've never seen

2224
01:11:17,050 --> 01:11:18,570
more of an interest from Israel and United

2225
01:11:18,570 --> 01:11:20,524
States to get you thinking something like that's

2226
01:11:20,524 --> 01:11:22,685
happening. Then we start seeing all the DC

2227
01:11:22,685 --> 01:11:24,284
drain hose and sorters and all the rest

2228
01:11:24,284 --> 01:11:27,005
just floating out fact free nonsense about sleeper

2229
01:11:27,005 --> 01:11:28,845
cells, home and putting out things about sleeper

2230
01:11:29,085 --> 01:11:31,164
not facts, just going Biden let people in,

2231
01:11:31,164 --> 01:11:33,085
so Iran's sleeper cells. Like, that being the

2232
01:11:33,085 --> 01:11:34,064
Baker Space Guardian.

2233
01:11:34,820 --> 01:11:36,579
And that fits right into the two party

2234
01:11:36,579 --> 01:11:39,140
narrative of, like, well, it's Biden's fault because

2235
01:11:39,140 --> 01:11:41,380
of his stupid border policy. He led on

2236
01:11:41,380 --> 01:11:43,380
these Iranian sleeper cells, and then that plays

2237
01:11:43,380 --> 01:11:45,940
right into the current propaganda. Right. So, again,

2238
01:11:45,940 --> 01:11:47,539
question all of this. Be right. Be, you

2239
01:11:47,539 --> 01:11:50,024
know, worried, consider, but don't jump into any

2240
01:11:50,265 --> 01:11:52,265
reactionary situation with you know, there's plenty of

2241
01:11:52,265 --> 01:11:54,265
false flag dynamics. I'll just include this that

2242
01:11:54,265 --> 01:11:55,385
I thought was this is what I was

2243
01:11:55,385 --> 01:11:56,505
gonna just point to. I think this is

2244
01:11:56,505 --> 01:11:59,404
just interesting. Certainly could just be the the

2245
01:11:59,625 --> 01:12:00,125
inadequacy

2246
01:12:00,824 --> 01:12:01,645
of the Iranian

2247
01:12:02,104 --> 01:12:04,185
Iranian revolutionary guard. I don't know. But here's

2248
01:12:04,185 --> 01:12:05,564
what here's the post. It says,

2249
01:12:06,260 --> 01:12:07,220
ICE arrest 11,

2250
01:12:07,699 --> 01:12:10,180
Iranian illegal aliens over the weekend, including alleged

2251
01:12:10,180 --> 01:12:11,400
Iranian army sniper

2252
01:12:11,860 --> 01:12:14,119
of Karimi. He was carrying an Islamic

2253
01:12:14,579 --> 01:12:16,500
Republic of Army ID. And I simply said,

2254
01:12:16,500 --> 01:12:18,500
because it's customary for the sleeper cell operatives

2255
01:12:18,500 --> 01:12:20,694
to carry Iranian military identification. I just thought

2256
01:12:20,694 --> 01:12:22,694
that was a little bit interesting. Right? But

2257
01:12:22,694 --> 01:12:24,375
my point is like nine eleven and the

2258
01:12:24,375 --> 01:12:24,875
passports.

2259
01:12:25,414 --> 01:12:27,175
Yes. Right? A little bit too convenient. But,

2260
01:12:27,175 --> 01:12:28,774
no, certainly possible. My point though is that

2261
01:12:28,774 --> 01:12:30,454
if you really look at the story, there's

2262
01:12:30,454 --> 01:12:31,814
only two of them that they argue have

2263
01:12:31,814 --> 01:12:32,795
any real potential

2264
01:12:33,175 --> 01:12:33,675
concern,

2265
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:35,800
but not enough for them to even be,

2266
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:37,479
like you know, other than maybe the current

2267
01:12:37,479 --> 01:12:37,979
political

2268
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,360
overview of the immigration thing, like, these people

2269
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:42,940
wouldn't be able to necessarily be re declined

2270
01:12:43,159 --> 01:12:44,840
entering the country. The point is that if

2271
01:12:44,840 --> 01:12:46,119
you look at all of them, it very

2272
01:12:46,119 --> 01:12:47,340
well could just be Iranians

2273
01:12:47,824 --> 01:12:49,505
who are here, who are immigrants, you know,

2274
01:12:49,505 --> 01:12:50,625
who are now being arrested. Now I don't

2275
01:12:50,625 --> 01:12:51,824
know. My point is I don't have any

2276
01:12:51,824 --> 01:12:54,225
any other evidence other than insinuations from people

2277
01:12:54,225 --> 01:12:56,064
who have been caught lying a 100 times

2278
01:12:56,064 --> 01:12:57,505
just since they've been put in position. You

2279
01:12:57,505 --> 01:12:59,505
know? So it's very interesting And they have

2280
01:12:59,505 --> 01:13:01,439
an incentive to lie and push their propaganda?

2281
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:03,119
Doctor. Yes. Doctor. They have an incentive to

2282
01:13:03,119 --> 01:13:04,880
keep people afraid. And just one last point

2283
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,319
I'll make on that is and maybe this

2284
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:08,239
is an example of it with this catching

2285
01:13:08,239 --> 01:13:10,559
of these 11 men here. But, you know,

2286
01:13:10,559 --> 01:13:11,840
where's Palantir? Where's,

2287
01:13:12,319 --> 01:13:14,475
ClearView AI? You're telling me this massive surveillance

2288
01:13:14,475 --> 01:13:17,034
state we have can't locate these alleged sleeper

2289
01:13:17,034 --> 01:13:18,494
cells that are just hiding everywhere.

2290
01:13:19,114 --> 01:13:20,475
Right. Or if they can't, that's more of

2291
01:13:20,475 --> 01:13:22,074
their reason to justify why they need to

2292
01:13:22,074 --> 01:13:23,994
look closer and scan more and can you

2293
01:13:23,994 --> 01:13:26,395
know, it's all this self fulfilling prophecy. But,

2294
01:13:26,395 --> 01:13:27,835
yes, the point is just to keep you

2295
01:13:27,835 --> 01:13:28,735
know, be quite

2296
01:13:29,270 --> 01:13:31,550
skeptical to sow discernment. I'll include this at

2297
01:13:31,550 --> 01:13:32,789
the end as well. This was a very

2298
01:13:32,949 --> 01:13:34,789
and this just adds more to my very

2299
01:13:34,789 --> 01:13:36,710
clear concern. Those that watch this show, you

2300
01:13:36,710 --> 01:13:39,110
already know about this. This for Derek, you

2301
01:13:39,110 --> 01:13:41,030
might not have seen this. There's many different

2302
01:13:41,110 --> 01:13:44,925
many large 100,000 follower Patriot MAGA accounts came

2303
01:13:44,925 --> 01:13:47,405
out with this. Iranian national was let into

2304
01:13:47,405 --> 01:13:48,845
the country under Biden. He says, sue, and

2305
01:13:48,845 --> 01:13:49,965
you will know who I am. Remember the

2306
01:13:49,965 --> 01:13:52,204
story? It's this guy. He did come in.

2307
01:13:52,204 --> 01:13:53,405
He did say that. Now the video they

2308
01:13:53,405 --> 01:13:55,185
don't include is where he says he's Palestinian.

2309
01:13:55,244 --> 01:13:56,524
That's why they cut it out, but he

2310
01:13:56,524 --> 01:13:58,350
wasn't Palestinian either. This came out at the

2311
01:13:58,350 --> 01:13:59,710
time when they were trying to convince you

2312
01:13:59,710 --> 01:14:01,469
that Palestinian Hamas were gonna sneak into the

2313
01:14:01,469 --> 01:14:03,829
border. Right? Well, we covered this in January

2314
01:14:03,829 --> 01:14:05,949
2024 when the same grifters told you he's

2315
01:14:05,949 --> 01:14:06,449
Palestinian.

2316
01:14:06,750 --> 01:14:07,569
He's proven

2317
01:14:07,869 --> 01:14:09,389
to be a work he worked for Mossad.

2318
01:14:09,389 --> 01:14:11,630
He was arrested in by Egypt, charged him

2319
01:14:11,630 --> 01:14:13,784
as working for Mossad. And, here here's the

2320
01:14:13,784 --> 01:14:15,305
actual article. So I'm gonna go through it

2321
01:14:15,305 --> 01:14:16,664
all again. You guys can check it out.

2322
01:14:16,664 --> 01:14:18,345
But what's funny is I covered this at

2323
01:14:18,345 --> 01:14:19,945
the time. The guy who they want you

2324
01:14:19,945 --> 01:14:21,725
to the guy in the border, this guy,

2325
01:14:21,945 --> 01:14:23,225
want they wanted you to think it was

2326
01:14:23,225 --> 01:14:24,824
this guy. That's the one they claimed it

2327
01:14:24,824 --> 01:14:26,505
was. This guy, at the time this guy

2328
01:14:26,505 --> 01:14:28,345
was crossing the border, is, like, 30 years

2329
01:14:28,345 --> 01:14:29,719
older. And they and he has a pro

2330
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,119
a channel, and you can prove it. And

2331
01:14:31,119 --> 01:14:32,399
so they are trying to make him in

2332
01:14:32,399 --> 01:14:34,239
to be this Islamic terrorist. The reality is

2333
01:14:34,239 --> 01:14:36,559
you can prove based on many different factors

2334
01:14:36,559 --> 01:14:38,000
I did in the show that he's actually

2335
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,679
the guy that got accused working for Assad,

2336
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:41,655
was arrested, and somehow ended up in this

2337
01:14:41,774 --> 01:14:43,475
on our border claiming he was a Palestinian

2338
01:14:43,614 --> 01:14:45,314
when that was the interest. And now suddenly,

2339
01:14:45,375 --> 01:14:47,295
it's being claimed to be an Iranian. You

2340
01:14:47,295 --> 01:14:48,414
know what I mean? And it's like so

2341
01:14:48,414 --> 01:14:51,135
these things just scream that we're being manipulated

2342
01:14:51,135 --> 01:14:53,055
into a certain situation. Now, you know, but

2343
01:14:53,055 --> 01:14:55,060
still consider everything else, you know? But check

2344
01:14:55,060 --> 01:14:56,340
out the show for those don't know. The

2345
01:14:56,340 --> 01:14:57,800
evidence is very clear. It's

2346
01:14:58,260 --> 01:15:00,340
striking. But so, let let you know, end

2347
01:15:00,340 --> 01:15:01,779
with where you think this might go, brother.

2348
01:15:01,779 --> 01:15:02,899
Any of the comments you were gonna make

2349
01:15:02,899 --> 01:15:04,739
there? Doctor. Yeah. I mean, I just wanna

2350
01:15:04,739 --> 01:15:06,020
say thanks for all the work you put

2351
01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:08,125
in, man, because I think that those even

2352
01:15:08,125 --> 01:15:10,284
though those are like small little details sometimes

2353
01:15:10,284 --> 01:15:12,045
and they get lost in the just the

2354
01:15:12,045 --> 01:15:14,204
sauce of so many other things happening, I

2355
01:15:14,204 --> 01:15:15,645
try to hold on to those types of

2356
01:15:15,645 --> 01:15:17,345
stories because those are the kind of things

2357
01:15:17,484 --> 01:15:19,564
that that little detail, right? As you showed

2358
01:15:19,564 --> 01:15:21,725
there with Patriot, whoever sharing it, gets shared

2359
01:15:21,725 --> 01:15:23,739
millions of times and repeated. And then, that

2360
01:15:23,739 --> 01:15:25,340
gets picked up and shown in other videos

2361
01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:27,420
and TikTok videos. And then, people carry that

2362
01:15:27,420 --> 01:15:29,020
knowledge and they think, Oh, wait. I remember

2363
01:15:29,020 --> 01:15:31,119
that one time, this Iranian blah, blah, whatever.

2364
01:15:31,579 --> 01:15:33,659
And even just being able to catch those

2365
01:15:33,659 --> 01:15:35,739
lies, whether it was intentional or it just,

2366
01:15:35,739 --> 01:15:37,659
you know, people in a hysteria rush to,

2367
01:15:37,659 --> 01:15:38,960
you know, prove their point.

2368
01:15:39,795 --> 01:15:41,715
Having those little examples to pull up are

2369
01:15:41,715 --> 01:15:43,875
so important because it can help debunk other

2370
01:15:43,875 --> 01:15:45,635
things where we can show people, Look, no,

2371
01:15:45,635 --> 01:15:47,475
that actually wasn't what they told you that

2372
01:15:47,475 --> 01:15:49,475
it was. And so then, that should call

2373
01:15:49,475 --> 01:15:51,715
into question the entire narrative that you bought

2374
01:15:51,715 --> 01:15:52,215
into.

2375
01:15:52,949 --> 01:15:54,630
So thanks for, you know, just the tireless

2376
01:15:54,630 --> 01:15:55,989
work that you do trying to keep up

2377
01:15:55,989 --> 01:15:58,949
with these, daily breakdowns. Yeah. I just wanna

2378
01:15:58,949 --> 01:16:01,130
encourage everybody as I have been doing that.

2379
01:16:01,190 --> 01:16:03,850
Ultimately, like, don't fall into the fear propaganda.

2380
01:16:04,710 --> 01:16:07,024
World War three, maybe it's gonna happen, maybe

2381
01:16:07,024 --> 01:16:08,145
it's not. I put a poll up the

2382
01:16:08,145 --> 01:16:10,145
other day on social media asking people's thoughts

2383
01:16:10,145 --> 01:16:12,085
like, how many of you actually believe

2384
01:16:12,704 --> 01:16:14,085
that the, say, the Western

2385
01:16:14,385 --> 01:16:16,885
block of Israel, US, UK,

2386
01:16:17,744 --> 01:16:19,845
12 I 12 eyes nations,

2387
01:16:20,465 --> 01:16:22,300
five eyes, etcetera, and

2388
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,800
the Iranians, the Russians, the Chinese, North Korea.

2389
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:27,560
How many people truly believe that they do

2390
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:29,640
not get along with and some people seem

2391
01:16:29,640 --> 01:16:31,479
to believe it's all a charade and there's,

2392
01:16:31,479 --> 01:16:33,560
you know, no disagreements and they're hanging out,

2393
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,925
sipping champagne behind the scenes. I think that

2394
01:16:35,925 --> 01:16:37,364
there's some version of that. I think these

2395
01:16:37,364 --> 01:16:40,744
people tend to have ideological and cultural differences

2396
01:16:41,204 --> 01:16:43,685
that do exist and sometimes might create real

2397
01:16:43,685 --> 01:16:45,844
world conflict but I always try to remind

2398
01:16:45,844 --> 01:16:46,965
people too that at the end of the

2399
01:16:46,965 --> 01:16:49,489
day, 99 times out of a 100, the

2400
01:16:49,489 --> 01:16:51,489
predator class are going to work with each

2401
01:16:51,489 --> 01:16:53,090
other. They're going to agree with each other.

2402
01:16:53,090 --> 01:16:54,550
And I stand with

2403
01:16:55,170 --> 01:16:57,489
the Israeli people who are just fighting for

2404
01:16:57,489 --> 01:17:00,164
freedom and the Palestinian people of course, not

2405
01:17:00,164 --> 01:17:01,925
the people who bought into propaganda and want

2406
01:17:01,925 --> 01:17:03,444
the Palestinians dead or the people who are

2407
01:17:03,444 --> 01:17:04,184
vice versa,

2408
01:17:04,564 --> 01:17:06,804
the American people, the Iranian people who are

2409
01:17:06,804 --> 01:17:08,484
just trying to live their lives. I don't

2410
01:17:08,484 --> 01:17:11,125
stand with or support the Iranian government or

2411
01:17:11,125 --> 01:17:13,689
the Israeli government or the US government and

2412
01:17:13,689 --> 01:17:14,970
on and on and on. And I think

2413
01:17:14,970 --> 01:17:16,329
that is the worst part is that when

2414
01:17:16,329 --> 01:17:18,729
these conflicts happen, even just this bombing back

2415
01:17:18,729 --> 01:17:20,409
and forth for twelve days or whatever, you

2416
01:17:20,409 --> 01:17:22,010
know, they're calling it now the twelve day

2417
01:17:22,010 --> 01:17:22,510
war.

2418
01:17:23,369 --> 01:17:25,930
The ceasefire obviously hasn't held. Real people are

2419
01:17:25,930 --> 01:17:28,085
dying. Like real people are dying and innocent

2420
01:17:28,085 --> 01:17:29,525
people are being caught up in the mix.

2421
01:17:29,525 --> 01:17:31,284
And that is what I try to remember

2422
01:17:31,284 --> 01:17:32,885
and hold on to is like, we're we

2423
01:17:32,885 --> 01:17:35,525
should remain skeptical. We should continue to try

2424
01:17:35,525 --> 01:17:37,525
to decipher things. And yes, it's probably a

2425
01:17:37,525 --> 01:17:39,284
good idea to have some food stored away

2426
01:17:39,284 --> 01:17:40,885
or to kinda have a plan for whatever

2427
01:17:40,885 --> 01:17:41,945
good it might do.

2428
01:17:42,610 --> 01:17:45,170
You know, for hard times ahead but don't

2429
01:17:45,170 --> 01:17:47,329
buy into the propaganda and remember that the

2430
01:17:47,329 --> 01:17:48,850
system and these people who run it, they

2431
01:17:48,850 --> 01:17:51,329
want us hating the other whether that's Doctor.

2432
01:17:51,329 --> 01:17:53,409
Right. Doctor. The Israelis or the Jews or

2433
01:17:53,409 --> 01:17:54,070
the Iranians

2434
01:17:54,755 --> 01:17:55,734
or whatever.

2435
01:17:56,354 --> 01:17:58,274
And at the same time, sure, there are

2436
01:17:58,274 --> 01:18:00,595
some Iranians that chant death to America. You

2437
01:18:00,595 --> 01:18:02,994
don't have to embrace that to understand they

2438
01:18:02,994 --> 01:18:04,835
have good reason to feel that way. American

2439
01:18:04,835 --> 01:18:06,835
policy for the last seventy years in their

2440
01:18:06,835 --> 01:18:09,590
countries interfering, intervening in the Middle East, military

2441
01:18:09,590 --> 01:18:10,090
intervention,

2442
01:18:10,550 --> 01:18:13,109
false flags. You know, all that stuff does

2443
01:18:13,109 --> 01:18:14,090
is breed new

2444
01:18:14,470 --> 01:18:16,550
terrorists. You know, it breeds new people Right.

2445
01:18:16,550 --> 01:18:18,170
Doctor. Who rightfully or wrongfully

2446
01:18:18,630 --> 01:18:20,354
feel like they want to get vengeance for

2447
01:18:20,354 --> 01:18:22,074
what happened to their families and to their,

2448
01:18:22,074 --> 01:18:24,554
you know, their children and that's a big

2449
01:18:24,554 --> 01:18:26,234
part of the problem. You know, The US

2450
01:18:26,234 --> 01:18:27,935
war machine is creating

2451
01:18:28,635 --> 01:18:30,654
this feedback loop of people who

2452
01:18:31,034 --> 01:18:32,750
want to respond and want to

2453
01:18:34,010 --> 01:18:35,050
react. And then, what do we do? We

2454
01:18:35,050 --> 01:18:35,529
call them terrorists, and then we wanna send

2455
01:18:35,529 --> 01:18:37,369
more bombs, and more soldiers, and things like

2456
01:18:37,369 --> 01:18:39,210
that. And so, just remember that that there

2457
01:18:39,210 --> 01:18:40,890
are real humans involved in this, and we

2458
01:18:40,890 --> 01:18:42,409
should do our best not to get lost

2459
01:18:42,409 --> 01:18:44,729
in the war propaganda because it's ramping back

2460
01:18:44,729 --> 01:18:46,510
up like post nine eleven again.

2461
01:18:47,064 --> 01:18:48,824
Well, here, here, man. A great great point

2462
01:18:48,824 --> 01:18:50,184
to end on. And I I think it's,

2463
01:18:50,184 --> 01:18:51,704
you know, here to the first part about

2464
01:18:51,704 --> 01:18:53,465
calling it out and definitely agree that that

2465
01:18:53,465 --> 01:18:55,625
is, you know, at least the propaganda is

2466
01:18:55,625 --> 01:18:57,224
ramping up. And, you know, I I think

2467
01:18:57,224 --> 01:18:59,005
that we've been in a state of of

2468
01:18:59,064 --> 01:19:01,465
multi multi nation war for a long time,

2469
01:19:01,465 --> 01:19:03,359
whatever you wanna call that. But what we're

2470
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:05,199
worried about is the collective kind of shove

2471
01:19:05,199 --> 01:19:07,060
into both the, like, propagandized

2472
01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,520
acknowledgement of whatever you wanna call World War

2473
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,359
three because that will signify some kind of

2474
01:19:11,359 --> 01:19:13,939
new direction, but also just the ongoing

2475
01:19:14,399 --> 01:19:16,239
war crimes that are committed every moment we're

2476
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:17,600
talking right now by the people who are

2477
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:19,225
acting like they're trying to push peace. You

2478
01:19:19,225 --> 01:19:20,744
know? And that goes for anybody. You know?

2479
01:19:20,744 --> 01:19:22,585
It is literally everywhere you look, and I

2480
01:19:22,585 --> 01:19:24,104
think people are finally starting to find the

2481
01:19:24,104 --> 01:19:25,385
courage to call it out. So and thank

2482
01:19:25,385 --> 01:19:27,465
you for all the tireless tire tireless effort

2483
01:19:27,465 --> 01:19:29,005
and work you put in as well, Derek,

2484
01:19:29,145 --> 01:19:31,198
because it just you know, it it's it

2485
01:19:31,198 --> 01:19:32,865
is a never ending job as you know,

2486
01:19:32,865 --> 01:19:34,742
and it's never you know, it never feels

2487
01:19:34,742 --> 01:19:36,409
like you're doing enough, but it's like we

2488
01:19:36,409 --> 01:19:38,076
have to just keep pushing because, you know,

2489
01:19:38,076 --> 01:19:39,743
I I really do genuinely think we make

2490
01:19:39,743 --> 01:19:41,411
a difference with everything that we do. And,

2491
01:19:41,411 --> 01:19:43,078
I mean, I'm talking to everybody out there

2492
01:19:43,078 --> 01:19:44,746
doing it. You reach people. Don't forget that.

2493
01:19:44,746 --> 01:19:46,795
Absolutely. And I'll I'll leave Thanks for having

2494
01:19:46,795 --> 01:19:49,034
me on, man. As yeah. Always, man. I

2495
01:19:49,034 --> 01:19:50,954
really do appreciate our conversations. I really find

2496
01:19:50,954 --> 01:19:52,715
it we we always you know, I think

2497
01:19:52,715 --> 01:19:54,475
we help more people to kind of put

2498
01:19:54,475 --> 01:19:56,314
put things in place, myself included, you know,

2499
01:19:56,314 --> 01:19:58,179
when we kind of overlap ideas. I'll end

2500
01:19:58,179 --> 01:20:00,819
with a a video from the army about

2501
01:20:00,819 --> 01:20:03,219
the whole psyop dynamic. Those don't forget the

2502
01:20:03,219 --> 01:20:04,979
argument of, you know, the world's a stage,

2503
01:20:04,979 --> 01:20:06,739
like, they're you're all actors in our play

2504
01:20:06,739 --> 01:20:08,760
kind of a sentiment from the Israeli intelligence.

2505
01:20:08,979 --> 01:20:11,354
Well, our army or just The US intelligence

2506
01:20:11,354 --> 01:20:13,194
also has a very similar view about how

2507
01:20:13,194 --> 01:20:14,475
the world plays out and think about how

2508
01:20:14,475 --> 01:20:16,234
this view might reflect on everything else we

2509
01:20:16,234 --> 01:20:18,074
discussed today. So, thank you, Derek. Can you

2510
01:20:18,074 --> 01:20:19,534
give a shout out before we go?

2511
01:20:20,395 --> 01:20:21,755
No. Just, you know, thank you for having

2512
01:20:21,755 --> 01:20:24,390
me on. I will be releasing the next

2513
01:20:24,390 --> 01:20:26,149
final episodes of the Pyramid of Power very

2514
01:20:26,149 --> 01:20:27,510
soon. So for those who are looking out

2515
01:20:27,510 --> 01:20:29,189
for that, stay tuned. Thanks for everybody who's

2516
01:20:29,189 --> 01:20:31,030
been supporting and stay tuned for more of

2517
01:20:31,030 --> 01:20:33,130
my work at theconsciousresistance.com.

2518
01:20:33,590 --> 01:20:35,270
Doctor. And last, America, Bagmont. We're not we're

2519
01:20:35,270 --> 01:20:36,630
not going away from that just yet. We

2520
01:20:36,630 --> 01:20:38,070
have plenty more Doctor. Yeah. Doctor. Articles coming

2521
01:20:38,070 --> 01:20:39,534
your way. I'm determined about that. As well

2522
01:20:39,534 --> 01:20:41,654
as the fluoride, follow-up coming up your way.

2523
01:20:41,654 --> 01:20:43,895
So Absolutely. Thank you. As always, everybody out

2524
01:20:43,895 --> 01:20:46,234
there question everything. Come to your own conclusions.

2525
01:20:46,694 --> 01:20:47,435
Stay vigilant.

2526
01:20:48,935 --> 01:20:51,354
There is another very important phase of warfare.

2527
01:20:52,550 --> 01:20:53,930
It has as its target,

2528
01:20:54,390 --> 01:20:55,289
not the body,

2529
01:20:56,230 --> 01:20:57,690
but the mind of the enemy.

2530
01:20:58,550 --> 01:20:59,850
The target of psychological

2531
01:21:00,230 --> 01:21:00,730
warfare

2532
01:21:01,270 --> 01:21:03,210
is against the enemy's mind.

2533
01:21:03,670 --> 01:21:05,850
It is words and ideas. Ammunition

2534
01:21:06,310 --> 01:21:07,034
used by

2535
01:21:12,875 --> 01:21:13,454
a sideward.

2536
01:21:14,555 --> 01:21:16,715
Its mission is to influence the thoughts of

2537
01:21:16,715 --> 01:21:18,875
the enemy soldier. And at the same time

2538
01:21:19,195 --> 01:21:21,929
is expected and encouraged to study foreign languages

2539
01:21:21,989 --> 01:21:24,170
and the social sciences such as history,

2540
01:21:24,630 --> 01:21:27,429
economics, and sociology. Their birth temperature. He must

2541
01:21:27,429 --> 01:21:28,809
have a broad and sympathetic

2542
01:21:29,109 --> 01:21:31,689
understanding of all phases of human experience.

2543
01:21:32,229 --> 01:21:32,729
Gripping

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at my skin.

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The

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walls of night close in.

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While the use of this force as an

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integral part of combat

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has now taken on new form.

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These are the SciWar soldiers.