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Welcome to the last American Vagabond. I have

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Shannon Joy here today to discuss the chaos

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of the world, the independent media

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upheaval, and all the different things going on

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in the world today. We haven't connected yet.

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This will be the time we've connected online,

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and we're really both looking forward to having

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an engaging conversation

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because I see her work in in a

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in a field in a part of this

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field that I greatly respect. She's she comes

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at these things in an objective way, nonpartisan,

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trying to find the truth. And I think

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as crazy as that that seems like such

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a basic thing, but you'd be surprised if

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you're new to this how many people in

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this field, you know and we briefly talked

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off air about it. Will you know, whether

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willful ignorance or just deliberate action will fall

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into that category for many different reasons. So

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maybe we'll touch on that overarching point. But

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we'll get to some current events today, talk

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about things going on. I imagine Los Angeles

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and riots, protests,

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Palantir,

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you know, health related focuses, and we'll start

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probably wherever whatever she sees as most important.

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But thank you for being here today. And,

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Shannon, it's great to have you on the

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show. How are you? Oh, it's so great

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to be on the show with you. I'm

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a great admirer of yours

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as well and your work.

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The the group of independent

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media

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outlets,

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presenters,

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creators that you guys have put together is

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just so important.

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So I've

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been really looking forward to this interview. And,

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yeah, it's like a fire hose in your

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face every single

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day

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because everyone's lying. I mean, that's that's the

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thing, you know. And and and to your

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point, I would say,

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the most radical position in The United States

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Of America today

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is one that rejects both political parties, the

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left and the right. And

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it boggles my mind every time I, you

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know, I see that this, you know, play

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out with

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the Hegelian dialectic

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problem reaction solution,

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you know, the false flags, the the

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the created

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controversies,

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and how they just always move us. I

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mean, if you

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if you observe politics

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over a a long enough period of time

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for me, it's been twelve years since I

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started my show. It was a radio show

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for ten years before I moved into to

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video

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podcasting and platforming two years ago.

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But I have been

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observing

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and reporting

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on

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politics for twelve years

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from this perspective as an independent.

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And just to see it play out over

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and over and over, it doesn't matter what

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the crisis is. It doesn't matter what the

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controversy is. It doesn't matter who's elected.

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You you the the infrastructure

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continues to be built, and it's an infrastructure

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of of

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massive tyranny

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unlike anything

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that we have seen in our lifetimes or

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perhaps human history given the technological

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advances

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that we've seen just in the past decade

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or two. Mhmm. So

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independent media is

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so critical. We have to support each other,

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protect each other, allow each other to disagree

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on certain issues because a lot of us

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are coming from opposite I mean, I was

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a a conservative

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Republican,

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born again. I'm still born again.

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But, I mean, my entire life grew up

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on Rush Limbaugh, never voted for a Democrat

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in my life, started my show, and then

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would you know, hit a brick wall. I

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was like, what the heck is this? Once

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I started paying attention, I realized Mhmm. The

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Republicans were just as bad as the Democrats,

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if not worse. So,

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you know,

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finding each other and allowing each other to

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disagree on some of these legacy issues

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is so important. And I think also to

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your point,

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you know, also understanding that, you know, sometimes

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it's not that the person is totally paid

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off or totally corrupt or a CIA agent

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or a change agent. Sometimes they just disagree

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with you and they're not privy to the

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experiences or the information that you've been privy

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to.

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they are change agents,

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and they are CIA or intelligence, you know,

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and discerning that is always

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a struggle, but it's why I like to

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to have conversations as much as possible with

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people. Yeah. So, I mean, I put a

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lot out there.

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But, yeah, congratulations

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your commitment to to being independent, coming to

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your own, you know, conclusions on things, and

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and really helping so many Americans

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and people across the world

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come to the truth in their own way.

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So I appreciate you a lot. Well, thank

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you and vice versa. I mean, it it

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is interesting to think about,

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excuse me, that, you know, that something like

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you know, nonpartisan, I think, is the best

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easiest way to frame it as as being

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the most radical. And I agree with you.

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it's it's it's not that it is the

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radical thing, but it's framed as being so

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outside. You know, just people are so immersed

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and so they their identities have become so

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over, you know, wrapped up with the idea

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of left and right that they see that

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as just like it's just, you know, the

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like speaking Chinese like an American, like something

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completely foreign. Like, it doesn't even make sense

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to them. And so it's so interesting, but

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is a rapidly growing understanding, if not borderline,

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if not over the majority line. I really

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do think that Oh, wow. Peep people starting

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to go, like, yeah. This just doesn't make

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sense. And with peep people like you out

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there and others in this field that are

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just kind of hammering this home and asking

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the the obvious questions. You know, I'm of

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the mind that people are much smarter and

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much, you know, you know, are are better

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and want good things in the world more

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than we are told. There's obviously bad people

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out there. But I think clearly the majority,

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and the point I would always make is

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the government wouldn't pretend to be fighting for

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liberty and freedom and democracy and, you know,

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human rights if they didn't think we wanted

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that. I think the majority of us do.

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put the real thing out there, I'm of

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the mind that most people who are just

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discerning and some, you know, they have their

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own faults and pitfalls, but they'll see something

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basic and go, yeah. What Shannon said is

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right. That's obvious. You know? And it's so

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much momentum right now. So I'm glad we're

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connecting to talk about all these things because

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it's there's just so much going on. And

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you know, it's borderline cartoonish today, and that's

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why it's so hard. And it and it's

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not that it's just, like,

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four year, test six year. You know, you

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go back a decade. It was not this

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wild. Like, the nuance versus the blatant lie.

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I think we're in the blatant lie territory,

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which is so interesting. So I'd like to

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start with, you know, I I got a

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a bunch of things lined up that we

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could get into that are kind of current

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or things are on my mind. But if

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I was just gonna say right now what's,

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like, the most pressing thing in your mind

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that you think is, like, the I said,

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what topic? What's the thing that jumps to

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your mind? Let's talk about that. So what

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to my platform about,

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eighteen months ago during the primary process within

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the Republican Party.

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locked us down in the place, then I

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can assure you, I can promise you that

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we will be in another lockdown scenario again,

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when when Bobby Kennedy junior joined the Trump

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campaign, I said to the medical freedom movement,

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the health freedom movement, if he joins this

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campaign, especially

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with president Donald Trump doubling, tripling, and quadrupling

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down on the mRNA technology that was rolled

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out within his presidency

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and and and the shots, then then there

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is a deal. There was a deal that

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was made in the back rooms, and I

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assure you, I promise you,

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that Bobby Kennedy junior, once he gets into

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this position, is not going to be able

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to to push through any of the agenda

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items that you think that he's going to

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push through. And I think that we've seen

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four months of this presidency

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and in the couple months of RFK's position

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the eminence of perhaps another lockdown scenario,

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in this case, using

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the chaos, the what I think is controlled

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chaos. I think it is a controlled demolition,

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LA riots and and the spillover riots in

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combined with some type of

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of false flag,

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bioterrorist

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events,

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and with the military involvement

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using that

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a full scale lockdown two point o that

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to the original.

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And that's what keeps me up at night.

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Will they be able to pull this off?

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That is the big question. Typically, if we

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can get word out

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enough

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among all of our media

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platforms and partnerships and we can we can

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get out ahead of it,

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very often we're able to to,

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you know, quell the plans. Yeah. And because

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because they you know, if people are on

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to them, then they're not gonna lock down

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in the same way that they did during

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COVID.

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Oh, sure. So swing back later, but they'll

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postpone, which is exactly, you know, usually the

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best we can hope for at the moment.

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We're not stopping anything.

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reversing and saying, okay. We are going to

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I mean, we can't forget. A democide was

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committed.

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That's the mass murder of civilians by their

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own governments. It was,

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committed in 02/2021

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and even in years beyond, and we can't

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even get this government

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or even our own people, RFK Junior and

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Jay Bhattacharya, Marty Macquarie,

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to even acknowledge that it happened

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in the capacity

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that they hold as government bureaucrats.

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That's a huge

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problem.

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Mhmm. It's a huge problem. It is it

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is gaslighting

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on top of gaslighting. We didn't enjoy being

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gaslit by the Biden administration, Anthony Fauci, and

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Deborah Birx.

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And now we're experiencing this tragically with our

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own people.

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So that's been painful.

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You know, the the people who built this

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movement and and proclaimed the truth and and

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lost an enormous amount in order to tell

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the truth about what's happening,

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we're now in in a,

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in a moment

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of

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of discord,

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which some people don't like. I think it's

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healthy. I'm not afraid of it.

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And, you know, I'm just gonna push through

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and do what I've always done, which is

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try to analyze

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each event,

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in context of what has happened throughout history

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and outside of the two party political paradigm.

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And sometimes I know what's going on. I

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can I can figure it out? Sometimes

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it is it's dark. I don't know what

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is happening, and, you know, that's the difficulty

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of being an independent

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content creator and presenter

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in in the 20 century.

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Yeah. Most definitely. And I I think it's

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it's funny is actually the the thing that

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I had lined up were were health related.

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So we're we're and we're on the same

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mindset here. But what what's interesting that you

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note on, and I'm exactly one of my

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biggest fears in this that we've been talking

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about for a long time is the intersection

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of these different agendas. And so

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is the lockdown point and how clearly I

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and, well, I I've sensed that you're insinuating,

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like, the lock like, the immigration discussion and

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that kind of thing that could be used

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in the chaos to initiate a lockdown. But

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as you included there, like, a biological element,

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which is something that I've really been discussing

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for a while about, you know, where that

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will come together. And I I I think

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we agree that if those things were to

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come together in one event, it's just like

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the it's like the, you know, goal it

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it's exactly what's the best case scenario for

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what the government wanna achieve. Right? So then

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you've got the immigration point, you've got the

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foreign invader point. You've got the biological point.

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You know? And so it become this very

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clear I mean, we're we're flirting right now

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with some kind of martial law lockdown dynamic,

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like, at the moment. And most republicans don't

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even wanna acknowledge, which is wild, seeing as

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how if it was Obama or Clinton or

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anybody with the d, they would have been

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screening

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Marshall, like, revolution before it even started. You

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know, it's just so frustrating to see. But

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before we get to that, because we can't

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and it clearly, as we're discussing, they will

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intersect. Let's talk about the health side of

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this. So before we even get into the

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overlap of how it may apply to, you

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know, that discussion we just had there, I

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did have some some health points that I

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wanted to go over that I thought might

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be interesting that relate to like, let's just

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say for sake of conversation whether there will

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just be another, like, COVID two point o.

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I I agree with you. I think that's

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highly unlikely because, like we discussed, people are

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very attuned to that. And so it's unusual

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that it would just be that redundant, but

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it's happened before. So I wanted to go

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over a couple points that I thought were

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relevant on that regard, and here was,

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about the the vaccine schedule.

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Jeff Rfk Jr said a a compliant child

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must take between sixty nine and ninety two

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vaccines to stay in school to some state

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in some states,

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and not one of them has been safety

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tested. He said that, which we agree on.

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And in a prelicensing placebo controlled trial, By

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the way, multiple shots they've already now approved

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also weren't done that way. So despite the

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claim of no you know, all placebo was

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already not true. But it says all the

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people who are in charge of that are

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now gone. But my point was, and yet

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the vaccine schedule remains seemingly unchanged. You know?

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Make sense of that for me. Like, I

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wonder your thoughts on that. I mean, I

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think we're aligned with this mindset, but I

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just if you wanna comment on that, I

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think it's interesting.

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And here was my point.

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I said yeah. I said today on my

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show, I said with this guy, Bobby Kennedy

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junior, it's it's one step forward, two steps

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back. Mhmm.

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And not even a step forward and three

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steps back. It's it you know, and this

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has been my criticism.

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The mRNA technologies are still on the market.

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They are still being recommended to children and

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pregnant women because of

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the clear as mud guidance now coming from

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the CDC after the fan dance Kabuki theater

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that we enjoyed last week

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of removing it from the schedule.

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It is still technically on the schedule. There

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is a link that you can follow that

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makes no sense whatsoever.

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And this is why Wisconsin

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is completely ignoring the recommendations and continuing

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to recommend for pregnant women and children, and

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multiple states will probably fall in that category

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as well. It's because the leadership from RFK

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is

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wanting.

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Now this,

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you know, and I I said the same

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thing. You know, there why

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If you're going to get rid of 17,

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members of ASAP that are engaging in malpractice

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and recommend you know, recommending

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these these terrible shots,

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you might have wanted to get rid of

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them before

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they went through the process of

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reapproving

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not only the childhood schedule, but also

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the mRNA.

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So it is too

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little too late.

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Right? If you were even gonna give him

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the benefit of the of the doubt on

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this and say, well, okay. That's terrible.

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I wonder about the timing

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because it just screams PR to me. Yep.

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It it screams

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a a systematic

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plan

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to roll these things out to keep people,

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you know, on the hook. Right? You know,

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watching the dangling carrot in front of them

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and waiting for something to happen.

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Right?

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But even if you were to give him

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the benefit of the doubt, he says in

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the statement that it's it's malpractice

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to recommend childhood vaccines without the proper testing,

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which I agree with.

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As such, I would expect

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these recommendations and mandates to be fully

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terminated

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before the start of the twenty twenty five,

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twenty six school year and suspended

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until proper testing is achieved. And even if

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proper testing is achieved and you deem some

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of them or all of them to be

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safe,

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regardless of the testing outcomes, it is imperative

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that they move forward with recommending

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that all mandates

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for all children

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and all humans

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are prohibited

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by not only the US government because the

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idea, you know, we forget about the core

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core component of the health freedom movement or

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the medical freedom movement, and that is informed

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consent and bodily autonomy.

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The you know, all of the discussions about

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the food and the air and the water

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and fruit loops and Maha and all of

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the things. Right? Distract us away from the

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the very crucial crucial center point, which is

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no government at any time for any reason

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nor any corporation for any time at ever

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any for any reason ever be able

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to coerce or mandate or force a human

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being

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to accept

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a medical treatment, a medical intervention,

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or an injection into their body

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against their will,

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period.

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Hear. Hear.

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That discussion

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never happens.

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Right. And despite RFA saying most of that

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before he was in this position to some

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degree, and then that's that's the part that

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I have the hardest time Right. Reconciling.

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Right. Well and who is going to replace?

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You know, interestingly,

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that was part of a larger statement made

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by Bobby Kennedy junior, which really irritated me.

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You know, he said, yesterday, I retired 17

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members. It's interesting that you brought this up

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because this is, like, the in my show

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prep today, and I didn't I didn't get

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to it. Yeah. Well, this is great. So

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I have this all, you know, written out

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for you. But,

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you know, he, you know, he made the

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statement. He retired he retired

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17 members of the advisory committee on immunization

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practices, and there it's the governing body that,

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wields the responsibility

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of adding new vaccines to the recommended schedule.

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And,

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he said over the coming days, listen to

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this part of the quote, I will use

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this platform to announce

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new members

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to populate

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ASAP.

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None of these individuals, he said, will be

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ideological

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anti

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vaxxers,

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which

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really stuck out to me as a member

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of the informed consent community. I have been

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on the vaccine issue for for almost my

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entire career, eleven or twelve years,

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and that immediately stuck out to me because

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the word anti vaxxer is a slur that

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has been used against people like myself, also

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the medical freedom community that came out of

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the lockdowns of twenty twenty for decades.

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And so my question to him would be,

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what what is an ideological

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anti vaxxer,

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Bobby Kennedy,

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and why are you using that again?

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Why are you using the tools of the

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left and the tools of pharma and the

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tools of previous administrations

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like Fauci and Birx to denigrate

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those of us who have simply advocated for

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health freedom?

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And why

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why is it so horrifying?

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Why on earth is it so horrifying if

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there is a medical doctor or scientist or

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someone with credentials

545
00:18:46,690 --> 00:18:47,430
that opposes

546
00:18:47,890 --> 00:18:50,549
mass vaccination campaigns to be on this panel?

547
00:18:50,755 --> 00:18:53,154
Wouldn't you want multiple voices? Wouldn't it be

548
00:18:53,154 --> 00:18:54,775
better if you want true discourse?

549
00:18:55,315 --> 00:18:57,174
You want you want full transparency.

550
00:18:58,034 --> 00:18:59,554
You want all ideas to come to the

551
00:18:59,554 --> 00:19:01,894
table. Wouldn't you want half of the panel

552
00:19:02,194 --> 00:19:05,210
to be in in support of mass vaccination

553
00:19:05,269 --> 00:19:07,849
campaigns and maybe the other half of qualified

554
00:19:08,230 --> 00:19:09,769
scientists to be in opposition,

555
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:12,309
then once you get the best information and

556
00:19:12,309 --> 00:19:13,849
come out with the best,

557
00:19:14,309 --> 00:19:15,529
protocols and recommendations

558
00:19:16,069 --> 00:19:16,569
so

559
00:19:17,375 --> 00:19:19,774
this statement in and of itself lies in

560
00:19:19,774 --> 00:19:22,194
the face of what he said about

561
00:19:22,575 --> 00:19:24,894
trusting the science, getting to the good science,

562
00:19:24,894 --> 00:19:27,454
and radical transparency. And so it's what like,

563
00:19:27,454 --> 00:19:29,429
again, once I in fact, you know what?

564
00:19:29,429 --> 00:19:31,829
One step forward, five steps backwards is what

565
00:19:31,829 --> 00:19:33,990
I would say Yeah. On on, you know,

566
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:36,869
this administration of Bobby Kennedy junior. And people

567
00:19:36,869 --> 00:19:38,569
are very mad at me for saying this.

568
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:40,869
Riot It's the same point you're just making.

569
00:19:40,869 --> 00:19:42,389
It's your it's your objective opinion. And the

570
00:19:42,389 --> 00:19:43,904
fact that people get mad at you from

571
00:19:43,904 --> 00:19:46,785
stating your opinion Yeah. Is ideological control. I

572
00:19:46,785 --> 00:19:47,825
mean, at the end of it, you can

573
00:19:47,904 --> 00:19:49,184
well, I disagree with you, but we can

574
00:19:49,184 --> 00:19:50,625
have a conversation about it. No. It's that

575
00:19:50,625 --> 00:19:53,025
you just you just violated our agreement. Like,

576
00:19:53,025 --> 00:19:54,224
you know, what we keep seeing is this

577
00:19:54,224 --> 00:19:56,664
lens for partisanship, and as we probably agree

578
00:19:56,664 --> 00:19:58,144
on, it's not left or right. It's all

579
00:19:58,144 --> 00:19:58,644
partisanship.

580
00:19:58,945 --> 00:20:00,659
But right now, it's very it's it's whoever's

581
00:20:00,659 --> 00:20:02,259
in the current power. Like, same during COVID

582
00:20:02,259 --> 00:20:03,779
with the left, you could see it. But

583
00:20:03,779 --> 00:20:05,539
right now, there's a lens it goes through.

584
00:20:05,539 --> 00:20:07,220
It's either if it's bad for Trump, I

585
00:20:07,220 --> 00:20:08,419
ignore it. If it's good for Trump, I

586
00:20:08,419 --> 00:20:09,940
promote it. And it's very clear. And you

587
00:20:09,940 --> 00:20:11,700
come out or same thing with RFK junior,

588
00:20:11,700 --> 00:20:13,059
for example, in the Maha movement. If you

589
00:20:13,059 --> 00:20:14,674
come out and say, you know, this what

590
00:20:14,674 --> 00:20:16,835
he did was wrong. People say, you know,

591
00:20:16,835 --> 00:20:18,755
you should just ignore it because you're hurting

592
00:20:18,755 --> 00:20:20,755
our momentum. And even if that's correct, that's

593
00:20:20,755 --> 00:20:22,434
still dishonest. You know what I mean? And

594
00:20:22,434 --> 00:20:23,714
so it's wild to me. So let's talk

595
00:20:23,714 --> 00:20:25,795
about RFK. I I I was muted for

596
00:20:25,795 --> 00:20:27,234
a when I said raise my hand. I

597
00:20:27,234 --> 00:20:28,490
said, but I agree with that, but the

598
00:20:28,490 --> 00:20:30,269
point was with getting rid of those people.

599
00:20:30,329 --> 00:20:31,769
I do agree with the idea of getting

600
00:20:31,769 --> 00:20:34,029
rid of these people, but what's crazy is

601
00:20:34,649 --> 00:20:36,649
if you're claiming they committed crimes, which is

602
00:20:36,649 --> 00:20:39,289
essentially what you're saying, there's never accountability for

603
00:20:39,289 --> 00:20:40,490
these things. They just kicked them to the

604
00:20:40,490 --> 00:20:41,934
side. And and I'm glad you brought that

605
00:20:41,934 --> 00:20:43,215
up because I wasn't even aware of that

606
00:20:43,215 --> 00:20:45,375
secondary part of bringing them back in. It

607
00:20:45,375 --> 00:20:47,134
just kills me that he's been the victim

608
00:20:47,134 --> 00:20:48,894
of being called an anti vaxxer for making

609
00:20:49,055 --> 00:20:51,615
Right. Valid points about and and yet he

610
00:20:51,615 --> 00:20:53,375
goes around and does the same thing. So

611
00:20:53,375 --> 00:20:54,515
all that being said,

612
00:20:54,890 --> 00:20:56,330
what are your thoughts on that and where

613
00:20:56,490 --> 00:20:58,509
into where he is? Because I am completely

614
00:20:58,650 --> 00:20:59,789
open, if not, like,

615
00:21:00,250 --> 00:21:00,750
sensing

616
00:21:01,130 --> 00:21:03,210
well, let me say this I'm very adamant

617
00:21:03,210 --> 00:21:04,809
about pointing out that what he has been

618
00:21:04,809 --> 00:21:07,130
doing around the the medical and health field

619
00:21:07,130 --> 00:21:08,350
before this point,

620
00:21:08,815 --> 00:21:10,734
I I will support forever. I I don't

621
00:21:10,734 --> 00:21:12,734
see everything he's been doing before that has

622
00:21:12,734 --> 00:21:15,134
been solid and continual. And so it really

623
00:21:15,215 --> 00:21:16,894
it was so confounding for me to see

624
00:21:16,894 --> 00:21:17,634
this transition

625
00:21:18,494 --> 00:21:20,575
around Israel as well, but this right now

626
00:21:20,575 --> 00:21:22,380
because it's like, how do I make sense

627
00:21:22,380 --> 00:21:23,820
of that? Was it all a ploy? I

628
00:21:23,820 --> 00:21:25,500
find that hard to believe. So I'm very

629
00:21:25,500 --> 00:21:26,779
open is where I was going with that

630
00:21:26,779 --> 00:21:29,100
about that he could be manipulated, blackmailed. But

631
00:21:29,100 --> 00:21:30,779
I'm never gonna assume that. And, really, it's

632
00:21:30,779 --> 00:21:33,059
irrelevant if we're just addressing what's happening. So

633
00:21:33,059 --> 00:21:34,904
I wonder your thoughts on that because it's

634
00:21:34,904 --> 00:21:36,744
hard not to see this as a violation

635
00:21:36,744 --> 00:21:38,505
of what we wanted from him and what

636
00:21:38,505 --> 00:21:41,305
we hoped would happen. But it's certainly possible

637
00:21:41,305 --> 00:21:43,244
that he's just tapping into the larger establishment.

638
00:21:43,305 --> 00:21:45,144
He's a candidate. Give me your thought and

639
00:21:45,144 --> 00:21:46,845
where you place him in all this.

640
00:21:47,349 --> 00:21:50,389
I think after after observing and reporting on

641
00:21:50,389 --> 00:21:50,889
politics,

642
00:21:51,429 --> 00:21:53,269
for over a decade, I would have to

643
00:21:53,269 --> 00:21:56,869
say that you always have to work into

644
00:21:56,869 --> 00:21:57,609
the analysis

645
00:21:58,230 --> 00:21:58,970
the potential

646
00:21:59,494 --> 00:22:00,394
for blackmail,

647
00:22:00,934 --> 00:22:01,755
for coercion.

648
00:22:02,295 --> 00:22:02,795
Given

649
00:22:03,095 --> 00:22:04,475
the amount of surveillance

650
00:22:05,095 --> 00:22:05,575
that,

651
00:22:05,975 --> 00:22:07,674
the advancements in technology,

652
00:22:09,575 --> 00:22:13,275
the corrupt nature of Washington DC, both political

653
00:22:13,335 --> 00:22:13,835
parties,

654
00:22:14,569 --> 00:22:15,069
and

655
00:22:15,450 --> 00:22:16,990
just the the proximity

656
00:22:17,529 --> 00:22:20,190
to to power and also

657
00:22:20,569 --> 00:22:21,069
vice.

658
00:22:21,609 --> 00:22:25,309
What we have seen with the the Epstein

659
00:22:25,450 --> 00:22:25,950
network,

660
00:22:26,505 --> 00:22:27,005
Jeffrey

661
00:22:27,464 --> 00:22:28,924
Epstein, the the relationship

662
00:22:29,305 --> 00:22:30,525
between him and

663
00:22:31,065 --> 00:22:31,724
and multiple

664
00:22:32,265 --> 00:22:34,825
power players, both political parties, the work that

665
00:22:34,825 --> 00:22:36,125
Whitney Webb has done

666
00:22:36,505 --> 00:22:37,644
is extraordinary

667
00:22:38,390 --> 00:22:40,470
in her reporting of the Epstein network, which

668
00:22:40,470 --> 00:22:43,350
was really a financial money laundering network more

669
00:22:43,350 --> 00:22:46,230
than anything, but was also engaged in the

670
00:22:46,230 --> 00:22:47,690
the honeypot activities.

671
00:22:48,230 --> 00:22:50,870
When we see what has happened with Andrew

672
00:22:50,870 --> 00:22:52,410
Tate and the Tate brothers,

673
00:22:53,565 --> 00:22:54,224
the diplomatic

674
00:22:55,164 --> 00:22:55,664
protection

675
00:22:56,044 --> 00:22:58,444
that has been provided to them by president

676
00:22:58,444 --> 00:22:59,664
Trump, which blows

677
00:23:00,204 --> 00:23:00,944
your mind.

678
00:23:01,244 --> 00:23:02,784
Right? These guys

679
00:23:03,164 --> 00:23:05,984
indicted, I wanna say, almost 60 victims,

680
00:23:06,365 --> 00:23:07,264
three countries.

681
00:23:08,220 --> 00:23:12,079
The indictments range from from child sex trafficking

682
00:23:12,299 --> 00:23:13,759
to rape to,

683
00:23:14,859 --> 00:23:16,079
formation of a gang,

684
00:23:16,460 --> 00:23:18,319
money laundering, you name it.

685
00:23:20,085 --> 00:23:22,644
Anyone who doesn't believe that people in position

686
00:23:22,644 --> 00:23:24,105
of positions of power,

687
00:23:25,125 --> 00:23:26,424
diplomats, bureaucrats,

688
00:23:26,964 --> 00:23:27,464
judges,

689
00:23:27,765 --> 00:23:28,265
politicians,

690
00:23:28,804 --> 00:23:31,224
presidents, military cannot be

691
00:23:31,765 --> 00:23:32,265
compromised

692
00:23:32,899 --> 00:23:35,000
and that they wouldn't go to sophisticated

693
00:23:35,380 --> 00:23:35,880
lengths

694
00:23:36,259 --> 00:23:38,099
to compromise these type of people, I think,

695
00:23:38,099 --> 00:23:38,839
is naive.

696
00:23:39,220 --> 00:23:41,399
I think that that is a completely naive,

697
00:23:42,740 --> 00:23:43,240
perspective,

698
00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:44,440
and

699
00:23:44,740 --> 00:23:46,899
and it is held by probably most of

700
00:23:46,899 --> 00:23:48,134
our colleagues in the left and the right.

701
00:23:48,134 --> 00:23:50,134
But I think that needs to change. Mhmm.

702
00:23:50,134 --> 00:23:52,634
Whether that's happening with RFK, I don't know,

703
00:23:53,335 --> 00:23:55,015
but I would not rule it out. You

704
00:23:55,015 --> 00:23:56,535
know, the other part of that is that

705
00:23:56,535 --> 00:23:58,375
you're never really privy to that. They don't

706
00:23:58,375 --> 00:24:00,375
they don't open the books for us. Mhmm.

707
00:24:00,375 --> 00:24:02,855
So speculating on that is difficult. I will

708
00:24:02,855 --> 00:24:05,950
say from my perspective, I look at the

709
00:24:05,950 --> 00:24:08,289
fruits. You will know them by their fruit.

710
00:24:08,670 --> 00:24:11,150
And so I really don't worry a whole

711
00:24:11,150 --> 00:24:14,210
lot about the why. I just look at

712
00:24:14,349 --> 00:24:16,750
the the discernible policy outcome. What are the

713
00:24:16,750 --> 00:24:18,130
statements that they are making?

714
00:24:18,525 --> 00:24:20,845
Where are they where are they moving in

715
00:24:20,845 --> 00:24:22,924
terms of policy? What are the words on

716
00:24:22,924 --> 00:24:24,765
the bill? What are the words on the

717
00:24:24,765 --> 00:24:25,744
pocket proclamation

718
00:24:26,365 --> 00:24:29,325
or or the executive order? And that's really

719
00:24:29,325 --> 00:24:30,625
how I try to judge

720
00:24:31,850 --> 00:24:32,350
everything.

721
00:24:32,809 --> 00:24:35,450
Because the the backstory is, you know, it's

722
00:24:35,450 --> 00:24:36,970
a lot of poke and dagger. You just

723
00:24:36,970 --> 00:24:39,789
don't know. I will say that the moment

724
00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:42,190
that I was very concerned about RFK

725
00:24:42,809 --> 00:24:44,190
was at the announcement

726
00:24:44,650 --> 00:24:45,255
in Boston

727
00:24:45,654 --> 00:24:48,695
in 02/2023.

728
00:24:48,695 --> 00:24:50,535
It was the February.

729
00:24:50,535 --> 00:24:53,015
I traveled to Boston to report on his

730
00:24:53,015 --> 00:24:54,474
announcement of his presidency.

731
00:24:55,174 --> 00:24:56,795
And it was in that announcement,

732
00:24:57,494 --> 00:24:59,494
prior to I was there with,

733
00:25:00,919 --> 00:25:04,599
hundreds of people from the old school. Right?

734
00:25:04,599 --> 00:25:06,059
So the original gangsters

735
00:25:06,519 --> 00:25:08,919
of the medical freedom movement. These are people

736
00:25:08,919 --> 00:25:11,339
who have been on the front lines for

737
00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:12,380
for decades.

738
00:25:12,955 --> 00:25:15,275
And there was a gathering at a restaurant

739
00:25:15,275 --> 00:25:17,355
of a a few 100. It was a

740
00:25:17,355 --> 00:25:20,315
large room and, you know, the the announcement

741
00:25:20,315 --> 00:25:21,775
was made. It was, essentially,

742
00:25:22,154 --> 00:25:24,075
you know, he's gonna make his announcement tomorrow,

743
00:25:24,075 --> 00:25:25,994
and I don't want we don't want anyone

744
00:25:25,994 --> 00:25:26,815
to be disappointed,

745
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,279
as he's gonna move, you know, forward in

746
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,140
the next twelve months to gain the presidency,

747
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,019
he's gonna have to play the political game.

748
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:35,740
So,

749
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:37,720
you know, you guys wanna you might wanna

750
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,559
prepare yourselves. And so I don't think people

751
00:25:39,559 --> 00:25:41,160
were thinking he would never say the word

752
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,664
vaccine ever again. I've never heard this before.

753
00:25:43,724 --> 00:25:46,285
That's really interesting. Like, priming everybody to sorry.

754
00:25:46,285 --> 00:25:47,964
Keep going. I just think that's Priming. There

755
00:25:47,964 --> 00:25:49,724
was a priming. And then in the you

756
00:25:49,724 --> 00:25:51,724
know, the next day in that auditorium, it

757
00:25:51,724 --> 00:25:53,805
was really, really interesting. Because remember, I mean,

758
00:25:53,805 --> 00:25:55,565
you're looking at Bobby Kennedy junior. There's a

759
00:25:55,565 --> 00:25:57,869
body of work, decades long body of work

760
00:25:57,950 --> 00:26:01,329
of him laying down just bold, bold truths

761
00:26:01,630 --> 00:26:04,670
about the childhood schedule, about the flu shots,

762
00:26:04,670 --> 00:26:08,369
about politics in general, the military industrial Complex,

763
00:26:08,670 --> 00:26:10,289
the Medical Industrial Complex.

764
00:26:10,845 --> 00:26:11,744
And so

765
00:26:12,125 --> 00:26:15,164
to to even imagine at that time that

766
00:26:15,164 --> 00:26:16,924
he would run for president and then become

767
00:26:16,924 --> 00:26:18,785
head of HHS and completely

768
00:26:19,244 --> 00:26:19,744
omit

769
00:26:20,365 --> 00:26:22,304
from his talking points, from

770
00:26:22,759 --> 00:26:23,819
his speeches,

771
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:25,419
from his platforms.

772
00:26:26,039 --> 00:26:27,179
The word vaccine

773
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,799
Right. Would have blown your mind, but he

774
00:26:29,799 --> 00:26:32,279
did. And in that speech, I will never

775
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:33,799
forget. I was in the room and it

776
00:26:33,799 --> 00:26:35,799
was electric. You could tell. It was full

777
00:26:35,799 --> 00:26:37,259
of medical freedom warriors.

778
00:26:37,845 --> 00:26:39,765
And he began to deliver the speech. It

779
00:26:39,765 --> 00:26:41,605
was about an hour and a half long.

780
00:26:41,605 --> 00:26:43,224
It was it was unscripted,

781
00:26:44,005 --> 00:26:46,184
and you could hear like, you talk about

782
00:26:46,884 --> 00:26:49,544
chronic childhood disease, and he would he would

783
00:26:49,779 --> 00:26:51,240
build up to a crescendo,

784
00:26:51,779 --> 00:26:54,180
and you could just feel people waiting for

785
00:26:54,180 --> 00:26:56,519
him to say the word vaccine

786
00:26:56,980 --> 00:26:59,640
and just explode in applause. And

787
00:27:00,019 --> 00:27:02,019
and people were waiting for it. It never

788
00:27:02,019 --> 00:27:02,519
happens.

789
00:27:03,154 --> 00:27:04,934
It never happened. And

790
00:27:05,794 --> 00:27:06,294
Interesting.

791
00:27:06,674 --> 00:27:08,934
That was my like, oh,

792
00:27:10,274 --> 00:27:12,274
there might be a deal made there. And

793
00:27:12,274 --> 00:27:14,694
then when he when, he made his concession

794
00:27:14,755 --> 00:27:16,375
speech and ended his

795
00:27:16,700 --> 00:27:18,700
bid for the presidency and all of a

796
00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:20,460
sudden out of nowhere brought up the name

797
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:22,619
Cali Means is this guy who was, I

798
00:27:22,619 --> 00:27:24,859
mean, I guess, the the best medical freedom

799
00:27:24,859 --> 00:27:26,299
warrior out there. No one ever heard of

800
00:27:26,299 --> 00:27:26,799
him.

801
00:27:27,740 --> 00:27:29,505
In that concession speech when he,

802
00:27:30,144 --> 00:27:31,505
announced that he'd be joining with the Trump

803
00:27:31,505 --> 00:27:33,285
campaign, again, you saw an omission

804
00:27:33,825 --> 00:27:34,325
of

805
00:27:34,944 --> 00:27:35,684
of COVID.

806
00:27:36,545 --> 00:27:38,144
Right. You know what I mean? Of of

807
00:27:38,144 --> 00:27:39,125
the word vaccine.

808
00:27:39,585 --> 00:27:40,625
So that was

809
00:27:41,184 --> 00:27:42,704
you know, I reported this all to my

810
00:27:42,704 --> 00:27:45,019
audience at the time. You know, after Boston,

811
00:27:45,019 --> 00:27:47,440
I reported it. At the time of his

812
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:49,580
his alliance with Trump, I I said there's

813
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:52,160
a big problem here. There's a big problem.

814
00:27:52,619 --> 00:27:53,759
Cali means brokered

815
00:27:54,140 --> 00:27:56,240
this agreement. It is rumored

816
00:27:56,654 --> 00:27:58,975
that Cali and RFK junior I don't even

817
00:27:58,975 --> 00:28:00,255
think it's a rumor. I think this is

818
00:28:00,255 --> 00:28:02,035
actually on the record in reporting,

819
00:28:02,734 --> 00:28:04,275
met in a sweat tent

820
00:28:05,295 --> 00:28:08,035
in Austin, Texas, some kind of metaphysical

821
00:28:08,975 --> 00:28:09,795
health retreat

822
00:28:10,349 --> 00:28:12,190
where some of the participants get high. I

823
00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:13,970
don't think RK does because he's

824
00:28:14,349 --> 00:28:16,829
because he's sober, but I don't know. I

825
00:28:16,829 --> 00:28:19,630
think Cali means admitted to being on some

826
00:28:19,630 --> 00:28:20,289
type of,

827
00:28:20,750 --> 00:28:21,569
I don't know,

828
00:28:22,605 --> 00:28:23,825
mushroom or something.

829
00:28:24,285 --> 00:28:26,285
Health related. I mean, great. This is how

830
00:28:26,285 --> 00:28:27,805
these yeah. I just I can't make it

831
00:28:27,805 --> 00:28:30,944
up. But, you know, somehow that meeting happens.

832
00:28:31,644 --> 00:28:34,845
They come together. Cali means brokers the deal.

833
00:28:34,845 --> 00:28:36,125
This guy is a no name, but he

834
00:28:36,125 --> 00:28:37,789
has the cell phone of the president of

835
00:28:37,789 --> 00:28:39,950
the you know, the incoming president of The

836
00:28:39,950 --> 00:28:41,089
United States and RFK.

837
00:28:41,470 --> 00:28:43,070
And then the rumor is that RFK went

838
00:28:43,070 --> 00:28:44,910
to Mar A Lago, spent three days, I

839
00:28:44,910 --> 00:28:46,910
think, in Mar A Lago brokering this deal,

840
00:28:46,910 --> 00:28:48,190
and we don't really know the nature of

841
00:28:48,190 --> 00:28:49,789
the deal. But I said to my audience

842
00:28:49,789 --> 00:28:51,009
at the time, like, this

843
00:28:51,535 --> 00:28:53,454
that it's very clear to Mille me. The

844
00:28:53,454 --> 00:28:55,615
the deal is you can't say the word

845
00:28:55,615 --> 00:28:56,115
vaccine.

846
00:28:56,414 --> 00:28:59,055
Like Right. And and you can't you know,

847
00:28:59,055 --> 00:29:01,055
there are certain things that you're not gonna

848
00:29:01,055 --> 00:29:03,880
be able to touch, especially in the campaign

849
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:04,380
process.

850
00:29:04,839 --> 00:29:07,160
And then after you become, you know, head

851
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:07,819
of HHS,

852
00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:10,759
you're gonna have shackles. There will be there

853
00:29:10,759 --> 00:29:12,599
are rules, and you will abide by those

854
00:29:12,599 --> 00:29:13,880
rules, and that is the only way that

855
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,255
you're gonna exist in HHS.

856
00:29:15,654 --> 00:29:16,315
And, unfortunately,

857
00:29:16,694 --> 00:29:19,015
I think that it is becoming clear that

858
00:29:19,015 --> 00:29:21,174
those rules are gonna prohibit him from any

859
00:29:21,174 --> 00:29:24,154
meaningful, in my opinion Yeah. I agree. Movement.

860
00:29:24,295 --> 00:29:25,894
And so for me, I'm a rip the

861
00:29:25,894 --> 00:29:27,769
Band Aid off fast kind of gal. I'm

862
00:29:27,769 --> 00:29:30,169
like, okay. Guys, love him. He's great. He

863
00:29:30,169 --> 00:29:31,769
did a lot of great things, but we

864
00:29:31,769 --> 00:29:34,490
need to move on very quickly and become

865
00:29:34,490 --> 00:29:37,929
loyal opposition to to this administration and sadly

866
00:29:37,929 --> 00:29:40,649
to RFK Jr. But it's not personal. It's

867
00:29:40,649 --> 00:29:42,825
business. Mhmm. Right? And we are in the

868
00:29:42,825 --> 00:29:44,424
business. I'm in the business of liberty. I

869
00:29:44,424 --> 00:29:46,025
have three kids. They need liberty, and I

870
00:29:46,025 --> 00:29:48,904
just don't play. So Right. Right. Well and

871
00:29:48,904 --> 00:29:50,664
as usual, when you call something like that

872
00:29:50,664 --> 00:29:51,164
out,

873
00:29:51,625 --> 00:29:54,265
you know, clearly, the facts are very obvious.

874
00:29:54,265 --> 00:29:55,740
You were correct. At least, I mean, like,

875
00:29:56,059 --> 00:29:57,019
let me come back to the point you

876
00:29:57,019 --> 00:29:58,779
made about outcome and policy. I'm so glad

877
00:29:58,779 --> 00:29:59,980
you brought that up. And that's the point

878
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:01,579
is the outcome we can see right now.

879
00:30:01,579 --> 00:30:03,500
He's not doing what was promised for whatever

880
00:30:03,500 --> 00:30:06,059
reason. But you calling that out in 2023,

881
00:30:06,059 --> 00:30:06,859
2024,

882
00:30:06,859 --> 00:30:08,940
clearly, that's at a point. But but I

883
00:30:08,940 --> 00:30:10,539
guess the point is when you call out

884
00:30:10,539 --> 00:30:11,200
the truth

885
00:30:11,744 --> 00:30:14,065
ahead of the two party paradigm, everybody hates

886
00:30:14,065 --> 00:30:15,664
you. You know? And you and you experienced

887
00:30:15,664 --> 00:30:17,105
this. Right? And it's it's just and it's

888
00:30:17,105 --> 00:30:19,105
so and regardless of whether you flush out

889
00:30:19,105 --> 00:30:20,944
as being correct down the line, it's, you

890
00:30:20,944 --> 00:30:22,704
know, it's almost like it's you're that far

891
00:30:22,704 --> 00:30:24,224
ahead to the point to where nobody even

892
00:30:24,224 --> 00:30:25,904
recognizes that you were saying that when the

893
00:30:25,904 --> 00:30:27,720
time comes to pass. And but it's valuable

894
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,640
because you did reach people by doing that,

895
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,480
and you helped people, which is, I argue,

896
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:32,839
why we're really doing this. You know? So

897
00:30:32,839 --> 00:30:34,440
just hat tip to you for doing that

898
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:35,660
and being ahead of the story.

899
00:30:36,119 --> 00:30:38,299
But the outcome point is so interesting because

900
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:40,440
I'm really adamant about this, and it's it's

901
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,835
one of these things, again, like the like

902
00:30:41,914 --> 00:30:43,194
I said about the two party illusion to

903
00:30:43,194 --> 00:30:44,634
start. It seems like this would be just

904
00:30:44,634 --> 00:30:46,794
basic common knowledge, but the idea that we

905
00:30:46,794 --> 00:30:48,714
shouldn't be engaging with what they say they're

906
00:30:48,714 --> 00:30:50,394
gonna do, what they say, you know, what

907
00:30:50,394 --> 00:30:52,234
they promise, you know, what, you know, whatever

908
00:30:52,234 --> 00:30:54,075
the different things are, the narrative. We should

909
00:30:54,075 --> 00:30:56,315
be focusing only on what they've done so

910
00:30:56,315 --> 00:30:58,750
far, the precedent, and then what is happening.

911
00:30:58,750 --> 00:31:00,589
What is the outcome? And it's not to

912
00:31:00,589 --> 00:31:02,029
say that we know that they chose not

913
00:31:02,029 --> 00:31:03,630
to. Maybe they got stopped. Maybe the other

914
00:31:03,630 --> 00:31:04,990
side stopped them. But at the end of

915
00:31:04,990 --> 00:31:06,430
the day, it's just the government and the

916
00:31:06,430 --> 00:31:08,509
outcome. And if we actually only engage with

917
00:31:08,509 --> 00:31:10,029
those things, they can't really fool us the

918
00:31:10,029 --> 00:31:11,865
way they're doing right now. But it's just

919
00:31:11,865 --> 00:31:13,544
people just don't wanna get invested. They they

920
00:31:13,625 --> 00:31:15,384
it's the identity politics of the left and

921
00:31:15,384 --> 00:31:16,744
the right, the woke of the left and

922
00:31:16,744 --> 00:31:18,345
the right that seems to drive everything. So

923
00:31:18,345 --> 00:31:19,625
I'm just really glad you made that point

924
00:31:19,625 --> 00:31:21,305
because it's I think it moves us all

925
00:31:21,305 --> 00:31:23,144
to really stress that. Just focus on what

926
00:31:23,144 --> 00:31:24,664
is the outcome. What are they doing, not

927
00:31:24,664 --> 00:31:27,369
what they're saying? I think it's difficulty or

928
00:31:27,369 --> 00:31:29,789
it's difficult in an era of,

929
00:31:31,210 --> 00:31:33,230
of very sophisticated fear propaganda

930
00:31:33,849 --> 00:31:36,029
Yeah. And, very sophisticated

931
00:31:36,330 --> 00:31:37,549
psy ops because

932
00:31:37,930 --> 00:31:39,070
so much of this

933
00:31:39,585 --> 00:31:43,525
is dependent on very real and very profound

934
00:31:43,664 --> 00:31:45,585
fear that has an impact on the human

935
00:31:45,585 --> 00:31:46,085
psyche.

936
00:31:46,544 --> 00:31:48,464
And so when you are in when you're

937
00:31:48,464 --> 00:31:49,924
in a foxhole with someone

938
00:31:50,384 --> 00:31:50,884
and

939
00:31:51,265 --> 00:31:53,345
and you are very fearful and and you

940
00:31:53,345 --> 00:31:54,164
are taught

941
00:31:54,464 --> 00:31:55,214
to fear

942
00:31:56,220 --> 00:31:57,759
the other party or

943
00:31:58,220 --> 00:32:01,259
the other religious group or the other race

944
00:32:01,259 --> 00:32:03,920
or the other culture, whatever that conditioning is,

945
00:32:04,380 --> 00:32:06,079
then it leads you to imprint

946
00:32:06,539 --> 00:32:08,460
on people who are then presented to you

947
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:09,200
as a hero.

948
00:32:09,734 --> 00:32:12,795
And that imprint, I think, is psychologically

949
00:32:13,894 --> 00:32:15,355
and even spiritually

950
00:32:15,734 --> 00:32:19,654
very hard to break. Yeah. Because because people

951
00:32:19,654 --> 00:32:21,095
then and I can't tell you how many

952
00:32:21,095 --> 00:32:23,734
times I hear, well, I trust so and

953
00:32:23,734 --> 00:32:24,234
so.

954
00:32:24,670 --> 00:32:27,950
I trust this particular party. I'm like, no.

955
00:32:27,950 --> 00:32:30,130
You have failed politics one zero one.

956
00:32:30,509 --> 00:32:32,130
Now we're out of our lead

957
00:32:32,750 --> 00:32:34,769
with the word I love that. I trust.

958
00:32:34,990 --> 00:32:37,309
Right. Go do it. Right? Like, that is

959
00:32:37,309 --> 00:32:39,250
that is an indication that

960
00:32:39,585 --> 00:32:41,044
you have been propagandized.

961
00:32:41,664 --> 00:32:43,904
Absolutely. And that you are being manipulated by

962
00:32:43,904 --> 00:32:45,825
your own fear. And I would say really

963
00:32:45,825 --> 00:32:48,144
quickly, even if they do even if they

964
00:32:48,144 --> 00:32:49,984
can be trusted. Like, the fact that you're

965
00:32:49,984 --> 00:32:51,825
choosing to try like, they could be played.

966
00:32:51,825 --> 00:32:53,429
They could be lied to, and you're still

967
00:32:53,429 --> 00:32:54,710
playing. You know? I love that you said

968
00:32:54,710 --> 00:32:56,389
that. It's so important. And you don't know

969
00:32:56,389 --> 00:32:58,789
how many layers are there. Right. And you

970
00:32:58,789 --> 00:33:00,329
don't we don't have all

971
00:33:00,950 --> 00:33:04,069
areas of information and all aspects. Right? We

972
00:33:04,069 --> 00:33:05,450
all have our own experiences

973
00:33:05,750 --> 00:33:08,089
and and the stories that we focus on.

974
00:33:08,625 --> 00:33:09,365
And so,

975
00:33:10,224 --> 00:33:13,204
you know, navigating this is is difficult.

976
00:33:13,744 --> 00:33:15,924
But I would say, yeah, the the focusing

977
00:33:16,065 --> 00:33:16,565
on

978
00:33:17,345 --> 00:33:20,065
only the outcome has been absolutely critical for

979
00:33:20,065 --> 00:33:22,080
me in my career, and it's been almost

980
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,920
like a safety net for me. Like, it

981
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,619
keeps me on the straight and narrow,

982
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,259
keeps me from falling out into different factions

983
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,940
or or different,

984
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,000
you know, because there's a lot of fear

985
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,359
out there. And it also helps me to

986
00:33:33,359 --> 00:33:34,580
not be so afraid.

987
00:33:35,144 --> 00:33:36,845
And and, you know,

988
00:33:37,545 --> 00:33:39,144
there it's scary times. It's hard to not

989
00:33:39,144 --> 00:33:40,664
be afraid, but you gotta battle that every

990
00:33:40,664 --> 00:33:42,265
day. Well and I agree. And it's not

991
00:33:42,265 --> 00:33:43,705
hyperbolic to say that. I mean, there's a

992
00:33:43,705 --> 00:33:45,305
lot of very, very intent I mean, whether

993
00:33:45,305 --> 00:33:47,705
it's just warfare or dramatic changes in what

994
00:33:47,705 --> 00:33:49,710
we always thought were, like, foundational ideas. Like,

995
00:33:49,710 --> 00:33:51,150
there's a lot of upheaval right now, and

996
00:33:51,150 --> 00:33:53,150
it's very you know, it's it's I think

997
00:33:53,150 --> 00:33:55,070
it's important that the people in our our

998
00:33:55,070 --> 00:33:57,230
position don't, like yeah. Like, I'm sure I'll

999
00:33:57,230 --> 00:33:58,670
make some comments of people in as we

1000
00:33:58,670 --> 00:34:00,109
go through some tabs today, but people that

1001
00:34:00,109 --> 00:34:02,595
are being hyperbolic and fear mongering about World

1002
00:34:02,595 --> 00:34:04,515
War three or revolution, you know, when those

1003
00:34:04,515 --> 00:34:06,515
things are very real and possible. I wouldn't

1004
00:34:06,515 --> 00:34:08,594
ever say that you shouldn't be concerned, but

1005
00:34:08,594 --> 00:34:10,594
to just name these things without ever really

1006
00:34:10,675 --> 00:34:12,034
you know, there's a there's a there's, like,

1007
00:34:12,034 --> 00:34:14,355
a fear factory in the independent media, mainstream

1008
00:34:14,355 --> 00:34:16,590
alternative media right now that just just grinds

1009
00:34:16,590 --> 00:34:18,110
away at keeping you on the edge of

1010
00:34:18,110 --> 00:34:19,710
your seat like it's a reality TV show.

1011
00:34:19,710 --> 00:34:21,789
You know? And it's very, very prominent. And

1012
00:34:21,789 --> 00:34:23,230
we'll we'll get to that in a But

1013
00:34:23,230 --> 00:34:24,829
you brought up Epstein. So I wanted to

1014
00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:26,030
I wanted to touch on this, which I

1015
00:34:26,030 --> 00:34:27,550
thought was interesting so we can kinda come

1016
00:34:27,550 --> 00:34:29,150
at two different things. We're talking about the

1017
00:34:29,150 --> 00:34:31,594
two party paradigm, you know, and the false

1018
00:34:31,594 --> 00:34:32,954
binary as they see it, and and this

1019
00:34:32,954 --> 00:34:34,875
Epstein overlap point is pretty interesting. So let's

1020
00:34:34,875 --> 00:34:37,315
talk about both. Right? So Elon Musk used

1021
00:34:37,434 --> 00:34:39,594
we've all everybody saw whether it was theater,

1022
00:34:39,594 --> 00:34:41,034
and feel free to comment on that because

1023
00:34:41,034 --> 00:34:42,875
I'm very skeptical about whatever just happened with

1024
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:44,579
all that. But they had this little tiff,

1025
00:34:44,579 --> 00:34:45,779
you know, and it was very strange. But

1026
00:34:45,779 --> 00:34:47,059
I'm of the mind that they really a

1027
00:34:47,059 --> 00:34:48,259
lot of them in that inner circle really

1028
00:34:48,259 --> 00:34:49,539
don't like each other, but that's not what

1029
00:34:49,539 --> 00:34:50,839
it's about. Right? There's a larger

1030
00:34:51,380 --> 00:34:53,559
non binary kind of agenda in this government.

1031
00:34:53,699 --> 00:34:55,139
But he did say that Trump was on

1032
00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:56,835
the Epstein list, which I think, frankly, is

1033
00:34:56,835 --> 00:34:58,355
probably the case with all the evidence we

1034
00:34:58,355 --> 00:34:59,554
have, but I can't say I know for

1035
00:34:59,554 --> 00:35:01,155
sure. But with what's going on with the

1036
00:35:01,155 --> 00:35:03,394
administration and, like, Cash and Bongino that see

1037
00:35:03,554 --> 00:35:05,235
I mean, even their own team seems to

1038
00:35:05,235 --> 00:35:07,074
hate them right now. They're all ridiculous and,

1039
00:35:07,074 --> 00:35:08,515
you know, it's just so clear that there's

1040
00:35:08,515 --> 00:35:10,659
been a big videos. Yeah. Do you wanna

1041
00:35:10,659 --> 00:35:11,699
comment on that real quick before I go

1042
00:35:11,699 --> 00:35:13,460
further? Feel free because it's it's interesting. No.

1043
00:35:13,460 --> 00:35:14,820
No. Go ahead. You could like, you finish

1044
00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:16,260
and then I'll tell you Okay. Because it's

1045
00:35:16,260 --> 00:35:17,539
hilarious, though. I just think that that whole

1046
00:35:17,539 --> 00:35:18,579
thing with the two of them is just

1047
00:35:18,659 --> 00:35:20,420
it's comical. It's hard to watch. You know,

1048
00:35:20,420 --> 00:35:21,079
it's ridiculous.

1049
00:35:21,380 --> 00:35:23,380
Right. Right. But Elon says, you know, I

1050
00:35:23,380 --> 00:35:25,474
regret some of my posts about president Trump

1051
00:35:25,474 --> 00:35:27,075
last week. They went too far, is what

1052
00:35:27,075 --> 00:35:28,275
he says. You know, so they're trying to

1053
00:35:28,275 --> 00:35:29,474
patch it up, it seems. And I think

1054
00:35:29,474 --> 00:35:32,275
it's clearly being, like, drawn together because of,

1055
00:35:32,275 --> 00:35:34,035
like, the LA situation. Now they're like, high

1056
00:35:34,035 --> 00:35:35,235
five. We're on the same team again. That's

1057
00:35:35,235 --> 00:35:37,500
that's what I'm sensing. And Candace says, what

1058
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:39,340
specifically do you regret? Do you regret telling

1059
00:35:39,340 --> 00:35:40,699
the lie that Trump is in the Epstein

1060
00:35:40,699 --> 00:35:42,460
files, or do you regret telling the truth

1061
00:35:42,460 --> 00:35:43,820
that is in the Epstein files? So, you

1062
00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:45,420
know, wherever you wanna take that, the Epstein

1063
00:35:45,420 --> 00:35:46,780
point, I think, is interesting, but I just

1064
00:35:46,780 --> 00:35:48,960
think all of that is part is interesting.

1065
00:35:49,099 --> 00:35:50,320
Go ahead. I mean,

1066
00:35:51,094 --> 00:35:51,755
oh gosh.

1067
00:35:52,135 --> 00:35:52,635
Like,

1068
00:35:54,375 --> 00:35:58,534
this thread with Trump and Epstein, Trump and

1069
00:35:58,534 --> 00:35:59,194
the Tates,

1070
00:35:59,654 --> 00:36:01,034
Trump and his proximity

1071
00:36:01,335 --> 00:36:02,714
to Your predators

1072
00:36:03,094 --> 00:36:04,954
and sexual abusers,

1073
00:36:05,900 --> 00:36:07,360
Trump and his statements,

1074
00:36:07,660 --> 00:36:10,700
Trump and his multiple wives, Trump and his

1075
00:36:10,700 --> 00:36:11,200
creepiness,

1076
00:36:11,820 --> 00:36:13,039
Trump, you know,

1077
00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:14,160
groping

1078
00:36:14,539 --> 00:36:15,039
young,

1079
00:36:15,739 --> 00:36:16,320
you know,

1080
00:36:16,780 --> 00:36:17,519
Miss America

1081
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:21,565
pageant contenders. Well, I mean, Trump grabbing the

1082
00:36:21,565 --> 00:36:23,805
you know what in his discussion with Billy

1083
00:36:23,805 --> 00:36:27,405
Bush, Trump making disgusting comments about Megyn Kelly.

1084
00:36:27,405 --> 00:36:27,905
Like,

1085
00:36:29,565 --> 00:36:30,785
he has been a degenerate

1086
00:36:31,325 --> 00:36:32,305
since day

1087
00:36:32,684 --> 00:36:36,420
one. He has always been demeaning and and

1088
00:36:36,420 --> 00:36:36,920
likely,

1089
00:36:37,460 --> 00:36:39,940
in my opinion, abusive of women. There are

1090
00:36:39,940 --> 00:36:40,920
multiple cases,

1091
00:36:41,940 --> 00:36:44,199
that that he's been you know, or multiple

1092
00:36:44,420 --> 00:36:44,920
accusations

1093
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:48,920
of various sorts of of, you know, sexual

1094
00:36:49,059 --> 00:36:51,319
advances or even abusive behavior

1095
00:36:51,704 --> 00:36:52,204
from

1096
00:36:53,545 --> 00:36:54,905
One thing really quickly is to put to

1097
00:36:54,905 --> 00:36:57,065
say to say these things is objective reality.

1098
00:36:57,065 --> 00:36:59,305
Like, you can still argue that he is

1099
00:36:59,305 --> 00:37:00,664
saving the country or that you think he's

1100
00:37:00,664 --> 00:37:02,025
a good guy or maybe he's changed or

1101
00:37:02,025 --> 00:37:04,105
half of those things are misrepresented. The point,

1102
00:37:04,105 --> 00:37:06,050
though, is to is to clearly point out

1103
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:07,250
that there is a track record you can

1104
00:37:07,250 --> 00:37:08,929
read his books, but yet people will call

1105
00:37:08,929 --> 00:37:11,590
that Trump derangement syndrome because the partisan side

1106
00:37:11,890 --> 00:37:13,809
ignores things that are uncomfortable to what they

1107
00:37:13,809 --> 00:37:15,090
wanna achieve. So I just think, you know,

1108
00:37:15,090 --> 00:37:16,690
I just wanna point that out because this

1109
00:37:16,690 --> 00:37:17,670
is a, you know, nonpartisan

1110
00:37:17,969 --> 00:37:19,570
conversation and I argue both of us would

1111
00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:21,715
make just as many retatements about how ridiculous

1112
00:37:21,715 --> 00:37:23,494
Biden is. But I just it's funny

1113
00:37:23,875 --> 00:37:25,394
when they circle the wagons around the person

1114
00:37:25,394 --> 00:37:28,034
they like. Please continue. Well, yeah, they snuck

1115
00:37:28,034 --> 00:37:29,655
that out. They they

1116
00:37:30,034 --> 00:37:30,534
essentially

1117
00:37:30,994 --> 00:37:33,795
erase in the course of the four years

1118
00:37:33,795 --> 00:37:34,855
of the Trump presidency.

1119
00:37:36,150 --> 00:37:38,089
They were able to, through propaganda,

1120
00:37:38,469 --> 00:37:41,510
erase his history. Mhmm. Now I will say

1121
00:37:41,510 --> 00:37:43,349
you wanna go back, like, almost ten years.

1122
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:45,050
You know, when he came down the escalator,

1123
00:37:45,269 --> 00:37:46,630
I was just on the radio at that

1124
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:48,089
time, and I did a deep dive,

1125
00:37:48,550 --> 00:37:51,655
into Donald Trump and found all of this.

1126
00:37:51,655 --> 00:37:53,494
Right? I mean, it it it's it's not

1127
00:37:53,494 --> 00:37:54,074
a question.

1128
00:37:54,454 --> 00:37:54,954
And,

1129
00:37:55,734 --> 00:37:57,494
most concerning to me, which I brought to

1130
00:37:57,494 --> 00:37:59,014
my audience, I'll never forget it. And this

1131
00:37:59,014 --> 00:38:01,094
is actually what got me originally blackballed. I

1132
00:38:01,094 --> 00:38:02,554
was still kind of a conservative,

1133
00:38:03,094 --> 00:38:04,454
then I was on con I was on

1134
00:38:04,454 --> 00:38:05,675
conservative radio,

1135
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:06,730
and

1136
00:38:07,109 --> 00:38:08,409
it was my initial.

1137
00:38:08,869 --> 00:38:11,530
I rejected Donald Trump from the very day.

1138
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:13,829
Well, from my very round of research and

1139
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:16,150
really never changed my tune throughout the past,

1140
00:38:16,469 --> 00:38:16,969
decade.

1141
00:38:17,349 --> 00:38:18,389
And it was,

1142
00:38:18,855 --> 00:38:21,835
the naming of Donald Trump, on the Lolita

1143
00:38:21,974 --> 00:38:24,934
Express. It was Jeffrey Epstein's private jet, NYSED,

1144
00:38:24,934 --> 00:38:26,554
guys. And then there are also,

1145
00:38:27,255 --> 00:38:29,574
many reports. I mean, Donald Trump was not

1146
00:38:29,574 --> 00:38:31,755
just an associate with Jeffrey Epstein.

1147
00:38:32,375 --> 00:38:34,989
Donald Trump, according to Jeffrey Epstein, Epstein, in

1148
00:38:34,989 --> 00:38:37,650
about, I know, hours and hours, maybe,

1149
00:38:38,269 --> 00:38:40,989
dozens of hours of audio recording that were

1150
00:38:40,989 --> 00:38:42,610
done, recently by

1151
00:38:42,989 --> 00:38:45,309
a an independent reporter. I forget what his

1152
00:38:45,309 --> 00:38:46,989
name is, but he was able to get

1153
00:38:46,989 --> 00:38:49,730
Jeffrey Epstein prior to him suiciding himself

1154
00:38:50,114 --> 00:38:51,335
in federal prison.

1155
00:38:51,954 --> 00:38:53,335
They were not associates.

1156
00:38:53,635 --> 00:38:54,614
They were, like,

1157
00:38:55,235 --> 00:38:58,275
best friends. They went out on dates with

1158
00:38:58,275 --> 00:38:59,014
each other.

1159
00:38:59,315 --> 00:39:02,695
Epstein knew very intimate details of Donald Trump's

1160
00:39:02,914 --> 00:39:04,534
life. It was a well

1161
00:39:05,074 --> 00:39:07,369
established fact fact that these guys were out

1162
00:39:07,369 --> 00:39:09,230
on the town. They were with

1163
00:39:09,690 --> 00:39:12,250
with very, very young women, and this is

1164
00:39:12,489 --> 00:39:14,030
this was just an established

1165
00:39:14,410 --> 00:39:16,650
fact. And I said to my audience at

1166
00:39:16,650 --> 00:39:17,309
the time,

1167
00:39:18,010 --> 00:39:20,454
this is a problem. And we just got

1168
00:39:20,454 --> 00:39:23,835
off years of Sean Hannity raging about Lolita

1169
00:39:23,894 --> 00:39:26,934
Express Mhmm. And Hillary Clinton and all object

1170
00:39:27,094 --> 00:39:29,335
you know, and and they use that. They

1171
00:39:29,335 --> 00:39:32,054
wielded that as a political weapon to go

1172
00:39:32,054 --> 00:39:34,390
after Hillary Clinton and the and the Clinton

1173
00:39:34,390 --> 00:39:34,890
administration.

1174
00:39:36,309 --> 00:39:38,230
But then, you know, the moment Trump came

1175
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:40,070
onto the scene, they did not wanna talk

1176
00:39:40,070 --> 00:39:41,510
about the fact that not only was Bill

1177
00:39:41,510 --> 00:39:42,650
Clinton on the list,

1178
00:39:43,030 --> 00:39:45,510
on the the log, but Donald Trump was

1179
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:47,349
also on the log as well multiple times.

1180
00:39:47,349 --> 00:39:49,134
I'm like, this is, you know, they can

1181
00:39:49,134 --> 00:39:50,815
drag this up. They can bring this up

1182
00:39:50,815 --> 00:39:52,255
again, and it was just so interesting that

1183
00:39:52,255 --> 00:39:53,454
Elon brought it up. You know? He said

1184
00:39:53,534 --> 00:39:55,074
and I wouldn't be surprised at all.

1185
00:39:55,375 --> 00:39:57,534
I I would not be nothing would surprise

1186
00:39:57,534 --> 00:40:00,434
me. These people in these positions of power

1187
00:40:00,829 --> 00:40:02,989
are, in my opinion, in order to even

1188
00:40:02,989 --> 00:40:04,670
get there, you have to be some version

1189
00:40:04,670 --> 00:40:05,489
of a narcissistic

1190
00:40:05,789 --> 00:40:06,289
sociopath.

1191
00:40:07,070 --> 00:40:08,829
You know, I like, they're just they don't

1192
00:40:08,829 --> 00:40:10,909
think like you and me. They aren't like

1193
00:40:10,909 --> 00:40:12,590
you and me. Most of us would never

1194
00:40:12,590 --> 00:40:14,909
go into politics because it would require you

1195
00:40:14,909 --> 00:40:17,644
to sacrifice your soul in order to do

1196
00:40:17,644 --> 00:40:20,844
so. But the, you know, the these power

1197
00:40:20,844 --> 00:40:22,864
structures attract people who

1198
00:40:23,164 --> 00:40:24,144
want power,

1199
00:40:24,445 --> 00:40:26,784
and they are quite comfortable

1200
00:40:27,324 --> 00:40:30,284
with cracking as many eggs as necessary in

1201
00:40:30,284 --> 00:40:32,819
order to get to power. So, again, why

1202
00:40:32,819 --> 00:40:35,219
people can't understand this, I don't understand, but

1203
00:40:35,219 --> 00:40:37,859
but it's it's the the fear campaigns and

1204
00:40:37,859 --> 00:40:38,440
the propaganda.

1205
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:43,719
And then, I mean, to come full circle,

1206
00:40:44,195 --> 00:40:46,835
he has been covering up for and protecting

1207
00:40:46,835 --> 00:40:49,414
the Tate brothers and so has conservative media.

1208
00:40:49,474 --> 00:40:51,394
And so that was really the final nail

1209
00:40:51,394 --> 00:40:52,835
in my in the coffin for me. I'm

1210
00:40:52,835 --> 00:40:54,775
like, this guy, in real time,

1211
00:40:55,235 --> 00:40:57,255
has sent a a diplomatic

1212
00:40:57,929 --> 00:41:00,989
special envoy to the president, Richard Grenell,

1213
00:41:01,369 --> 00:41:02,109
to Munich

1214
00:41:02,489 --> 00:41:04,829
to strong-arm Romanian officials

1215
00:41:05,130 --> 00:41:07,369
on behalf of the Tate brothers so that

1216
00:41:07,369 --> 00:41:10,030
they could hop on a private jet, fly

1217
00:41:10,089 --> 00:41:12,030
back to The United States Of America,

1218
00:41:12,394 --> 00:41:13,775
They met on the tarmac

1219
00:41:14,155 --> 00:41:16,554
by not none other than Roger Stone who

1220
00:41:16,554 --> 00:41:19,534
reportedly had cigars for them at the time,

1221
00:41:19,914 --> 00:41:21,554
and then and then move in. I mean,

1222
00:41:21,554 --> 00:41:23,914
I think they they spent two weeks in

1223
00:41:23,914 --> 00:41:26,394
Florida, and then Ron DeSantis had his way

1224
00:41:26,394 --> 00:41:28,289
with them and chased them out, which was

1225
00:41:28,449 --> 00:41:32,289
glorious to watch. But so this president Trump

1226
00:41:32,289 --> 00:41:33,030
is notorious

1227
00:41:33,410 --> 00:41:35,670
for protecting pimps and pedophiles

1228
00:41:35,969 --> 00:41:38,390
and rapists and criminals. And so

1229
00:41:39,250 --> 00:41:40,849
it I I don't know what to tell

1230
00:41:40,849 --> 00:41:43,974
people. I mean, it's there's so much there.

1231
00:41:44,515 --> 00:41:47,315
It it takes a special amount of gaslighting

1232
00:41:47,315 --> 00:41:49,155
for people to just ignore the facts. But,

1233
00:41:49,155 --> 00:41:49,655
again,

1234
00:41:50,275 --> 00:41:52,934
we this part the the partisan nature of

1235
00:41:53,875 --> 00:41:54,775
politics today

1236
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:57,769
really inhibits people from seeing it, which is

1237
00:41:57,769 --> 00:42:00,329
a shame. Yeah. Yeah. They they just blatantly

1238
00:42:00,329 --> 00:42:02,010
ignore facts on both sides of the paradigm.

1239
00:42:02,010 --> 00:42:03,610
You know? But the the the tape thing

1240
00:42:03,610 --> 00:42:05,369
is so interesting because I mean, I could

1241
00:42:05,369 --> 00:42:06,809
point to many people. I think, what is

1242
00:42:06,809 --> 00:42:08,650
it, Murder by Krayans or or Milk Bar

1243
00:42:08,650 --> 00:42:10,795
TV? So You know, they they and and

1244
00:42:10,795 --> 00:42:12,635
Milk Bar TV as well. They've been breaking

1245
00:42:12,635 --> 00:42:14,474
this stuff down for I mean, since the

1246
00:42:14,474 --> 00:42:16,155
moment it was really a a major focal

1247
00:42:16,155 --> 00:42:17,594
point and just I mean, this is what's

1248
00:42:17,594 --> 00:42:18,555
so wild to me and this is what

1249
00:42:18,555 --> 00:42:19,994
we're kind of addressing in a larger sense

1250
00:42:19,994 --> 00:42:21,594
is, you know, they'll these aren't like manipulative

1251
00:42:21,594 --> 00:42:23,659
videos. They're they're simply like

1252
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,099
it's provable, undeniable documentation

1253
00:42:31,639 --> 00:42:32,539
of, like, you know,

1254
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:35,239
or literal things that they they say on

1255
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,934
Tucker, on Candace Owens, that they just literally

1256
00:42:37,934 --> 00:42:39,535
didn't do. Or that's the crazy part to

1257
00:42:39,535 --> 00:42:40,894
me is not only, you know, the Trump

1258
00:42:40,894 --> 00:42:42,974
aspect, but how you get these commentators who

1259
00:42:42,974 --> 00:42:44,735
just give them a platform who are supposed

1260
00:42:44,735 --> 00:42:46,494
to be journalists that are just lying about

1261
00:42:46,494 --> 00:42:47,934
what they're saying. Now Who are supposed to

1262
00:42:47,934 --> 00:42:48,835
be Christian

1263
00:42:49,215 --> 00:42:49,715
conservatives.

1264
00:42:50,180 --> 00:42:53,140
Right. These are Christ is king. Like, even

1265
00:42:53,140 --> 00:42:55,640
if you erased all of the charges,

1266
00:42:55,940 --> 00:42:56,760
which are

1267
00:42:57,140 --> 00:42:57,640
horrifying

1268
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:59,079
of the Tate brothers,

1269
00:42:59,380 --> 00:43:00,680
even if you erase the charges,

1270
00:43:01,619 --> 00:43:03,559
they are self admitted

1271
00:43:04,394 --> 00:43:06,094
pimps and pornographers.

1272
00:43:06,635 --> 00:43:07,755
Right. And it

1273
00:43:08,155 --> 00:43:10,554
and good. Right. I mean, so that can't

1274
00:43:10,715 --> 00:43:11,934
you know, Candace Owens

1275
00:43:12,235 --> 00:43:14,655
will scream Christ is king at people.

1276
00:43:14,954 --> 00:43:16,715
I don't know. Anytime she's back in backed

1277
00:43:16,715 --> 00:43:17,454
in a corner,

1278
00:43:17,849 --> 00:43:18,510
yet multiple

1279
00:43:19,289 --> 00:43:19,789
times

1280
00:43:20,570 --> 00:43:21,630
throughout the past

1281
00:43:22,170 --> 00:43:24,809
eighteen to twenty four months, she has lied

1282
00:43:24,809 --> 00:43:27,210
for the Tate brothers. She has platformed the

1283
00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:29,950
Tate brothers. She has deceived her audience

1284
00:43:30,329 --> 00:43:31,950
about the nature of the crimes,

1285
00:43:32,445 --> 00:43:32,945
the,

1286
00:43:33,965 --> 00:43:36,385
you know, the severity of the crimes,

1287
00:43:36,765 --> 00:43:38,844
and she has done that as recently as

1288
00:43:38,844 --> 00:43:41,505
just a a couple months ago. Mhmm.

1289
00:43:42,125 --> 00:43:44,144
It's Wrap your mind around that.

1290
00:43:44,539 --> 00:43:46,699
It's it's confound it's confusing to me because

1291
00:43:46,699 --> 00:43:48,539
there's I mean, I I I obviously, she's

1292
00:43:48,539 --> 00:43:50,859
very partisan, but there's plenty of stuff that

1293
00:43:50,859 --> 00:43:52,780
she's doing in plenty of categories that I

1294
00:43:52,780 --> 00:43:54,539
think is pretty solid. So it's just going,

1295
00:43:54,539 --> 00:43:56,460
like, what is the point? Why would you

1296
00:43:56,460 --> 00:43:58,954
do that? Why would you knowingly like, she's

1297
00:43:58,954 --> 00:44:01,034
not stupid. She knows that there's video evidence

1298
00:44:01,034 --> 00:44:02,974
of exactly what they're claiming they're not doing.

1299
00:44:03,114 --> 00:44:04,315
Why? You know, it's just that's the same

1300
00:44:04,315 --> 00:44:05,755
point. I'm not gonna assume. I'm not gonna

1301
00:44:05,755 --> 00:44:06,715
guess. It could be any number of the

1302
00:44:06,715 --> 00:44:08,954
things we discussed around RFK. You know, there's

1303
00:44:08,954 --> 00:44:11,675
plenty of movable factors that could Right. Make

1304
00:44:11,675 --> 00:44:13,619
people act against their interest. We could even

1305
00:44:13,619 --> 00:44:15,380
go in a crazy direction as Catherine Austin

1306
00:44:15,380 --> 00:44:17,539
Fitz would discuss around, like, neuroweapons and things

1307
00:44:17,539 --> 00:44:19,219
that get you to, like, literally act against

1308
00:44:19,219 --> 00:44:21,139
your own intentions. I don't know. But I've

1309
00:44:21,299 --> 00:44:23,299
it's just so frustrating because you're right. It

1310
00:44:23,299 --> 00:44:25,539
is very clear. And it's interesting you bring

1311
00:44:25,539 --> 00:44:27,444
it up in this context because, you know,

1312
00:44:27,444 --> 00:44:28,724
like, we could point back to someone like

1313
00:44:28,724 --> 00:44:30,484
Charlie Manson and all the evidence to suggest

1314
00:44:30,484 --> 00:44:31,924
he was just an Epstein of his time,

1315
00:44:31,924 --> 00:44:34,085
you know, or or there's this disaster. About

1316
00:44:34,085 --> 00:44:35,844
that. Interesting. Oh, yeah. It's well, it's it's

1317
00:44:35,844 --> 00:44:37,045
a whole thing. It's a whole rabbit hole.

1318
00:44:37,045 --> 00:44:38,565
It's worth looking into. Like, the overlap of

1319
00:44:38,565 --> 00:44:40,885
the Hollywood scene, even the whole story we

1320
00:44:40,885 --> 00:44:42,184
know about with, you know, with

1321
00:44:43,380 --> 00:44:45,659
Sharon Tate. Sharon Tate, interestingly enough. I was

1322
00:44:45,659 --> 00:44:46,940
making sure I make a mistake there. Oh,

1323
00:44:46,940 --> 00:44:48,239
yeah. Right. Right. The Tate.

1324
00:44:48,699 --> 00:44:51,099
Any connection? I don't know. Yeah. You don't

1325
00:44:51,099 --> 00:44:52,539
know, actually. But, you know, the whole story

1326
00:44:52,539 --> 00:44:54,400
is interesting, and there's a lot of overlapping

1327
00:44:54,460 --> 00:44:55,820
alignment there. And I think that's what it

1328
00:44:55,820 --> 00:44:56,994
was. I think he was just, you know,

1329
00:44:56,994 --> 00:44:58,514
he had this harem of girls. He was

1330
00:44:58,514 --> 00:45:00,114
connected to the the you know, it's a

1331
00:45:00,114 --> 00:45:01,954
whole story. But wondering whether or not the

1332
00:45:01,954 --> 00:45:03,554
Tate aspect is just another part of that

1333
00:45:03,554 --> 00:45:05,155
today, it's hard to say. It's worth looking

1334
00:45:05,155 --> 00:45:07,554
into. But the point is about the cover

1335
00:45:07,554 --> 00:45:09,155
up from the highest levels of power and

1336
00:45:09,155 --> 00:45:10,889
what that really shows you about the power,

1337
00:45:10,969 --> 00:45:13,130
You know? And it's nonpartisan. It goes both

1338
00:45:13,130 --> 00:45:15,130
ways. You know? It's so interesting. But back

1339
00:45:15,130 --> 00:45:16,489
to the Elon point that you brought up

1340
00:45:16,489 --> 00:45:17,929
about Epstein because that the back from the

1341
00:45:17,929 --> 00:45:19,929
tweet, you know, it's we it's so it

1342
00:45:20,569 --> 00:45:23,049
it's either way, it shows you what a

1343
00:45:23,049 --> 00:45:24,170
lot of us have been trying to point

1344
00:45:24,170 --> 00:45:25,690
out. Right? That they're just being dishonest with

1345
00:45:25,690 --> 00:45:27,595
you. So if your point is that Elon,

1346
00:45:27,595 --> 00:45:29,195
whoever out there, Candace is the point she's

1347
00:45:29,195 --> 00:45:31,934
making there, if your point is that Elon

1348
00:45:32,315 --> 00:45:33,914
is lying about this because he's mad at

1349
00:45:33,914 --> 00:45:35,914
Trump, well, then they're being childish and petty,

1350
00:45:35,914 --> 00:45:37,434
and that's what they are. Or if your

1351
00:45:37,434 --> 00:45:39,195
point is they're finally telling you the truth,

1352
00:45:39,195 --> 00:45:40,394
and they've been lying to you the whole

1353
00:45:40,394 --> 00:45:42,250
time for their political agenda. No matter which

1354
00:45:42,250 --> 00:45:43,610
way you look at it, it shows you

1355
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:45,050
the kind of thing that we're highlighting is

1356
00:45:45,050 --> 00:45:47,450
they will lie to you about anything to

1357
00:45:47,450 --> 00:45:49,369
achieve their ends, left and right. I think

1358
00:45:49,369 --> 00:45:50,670
that's important. Absolutely.

1359
00:45:50,970 --> 00:45:53,789
And didn't Elon didn't Elon Musk's

1360
00:45:54,090 --> 00:45:54,590
brother

1361
00:45:55,715 --> 00:45:59,015
what or someone was in Elon was involved

1362
00:45:59,074 --> 00:46:00,454
with the tapes through

1363
00:46:00,914 --> 00:46:03,074
one of his close relatives as well. So

1364
00:46:03,074 --> 00:46:05,015
Elon has a history with the tapes,

1365
00:46:05,394 --> 00:46:06,054
I believe.

1366
00:46:06,675 --> 00:46:08,114
I wanna know. Maybe it was no. No.

1367
00:46:08,114 --> 00:46:09,474
Maybe it was I can't remember. I'm not

1368
00:46:09,474 --> 00:46:11,109
gonna say it because I can't remember. Yeah.

1369
00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:12,630
No. I I don't know the the Internet

1370
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:14,389
inter interconnection between you and the rest, but

1371
00:46:14,389 --> 00:46:16,389
my point is that there are the levels

1372
00:46:16,389 --> 00:46:18,469
of of power connected to those people is

1373
00:46:18,469 --> 00:46:19,829
just it doesn't make much sense. I mean,

1374
00:46:19,829 --> 00:46:21,989
they're wealthy, but Yeah. You know, it's not

1375
00:46:21,989 --> 00:46:23,829
as fake. I mean, the two dads fighting,

1376
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:25,690
everyone's head exploded. I mean,

1377
00:46:26,295 --> 00:46:27,974
Khan Inc and Bazar Khan did not know

1378
00:46:27,974 --> 00:46:29,994
what to do with themselves for multiple days.

1379
00:46:30,214 --> 00:46:32,855
Because you have two idols. Right? Two political

1380
00:46:32,855 --> 00:46:33,994
idols right here.

1381
00:46:34,295 --> 00:46:34,795
And,

1382
00:46:36,135 --> 00:46:38,135
so I'm not surprised. It it had to

1383
00:46:38,135 --> 00:46:39,255
have been there had to have been some

1384
00:46:39,255 --> 00:46:40,934
kind of agenda for that. I don't know

1385
00:46:40,934 --> 00:46:43,369
what it was. But it was very bizarre,

1386
00:46:43,510 --> 00:46:44,329
very weird.

1387
00:46:44,710 --> 00:46:46,789
And, you know, Elon's weird too, like, with

1388
00:46:46,789 --> 00:46:47,289
the

1389
00:46:47,670 --> 00:46:49,609
with the bobbing and weaving.

1390
00:46:49,989 --> 00:46:51,909
Nah. It's just also weird. You know, somebody

1391
00:46:51,909 --> 00:46:53,829
threw out a really interesting possibility just for

1392
00:46:53,829 --> 00:46:55,909
the sake of conversation because it clearly is

1393
00:46:55,909 --> 00:46:57,190
not that far fetched with what's going on

1394
00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:58,284
in the world. But, you know, people are

1395
00:46:58,284 --> 00:46:59,965
saying, oh, he's on drugs, which is probably

1396
00:46:59,965 --> 00:47:01,605
the most, like, Occam's razor. It's as simple

1397
00:47:01,605 --> 00:47:03,324
as, you know, that he's just taking ketamine.

1398
00:47:03,324 --> 00:47:05,405
Right? But but somebody was, like you know,

1399
00:47:05,405 --> 00:47:06,925
the weird images of him, like, looking up

1400
00:47:06,925 --> 00:47:08,445
and with his eyes, it's really weird. Right?

1401
00:47:08,445 --> 00:47:09,565
And they said, what if what if he

1402
00:47:09,565 --> 00:47:11,449
already has Neuralink? And he's literally, like, going

1403
00:47:11,449 --> 00:47:13,309
through grok and, like, every, you know, mass

1404
00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:15,690
considering possibility. You know? It's like that's it's

1405
00:47:15,769 --> 00:47:17,210
I don't think that's not what I I

1406
00:47:17,210 --> 00:47:18,250
would assume, but that's

1407
00:47:18,889 --> 00:47:21,210
Nothing would surprise me. That's my other this

1408
00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:24,405
is my other rule about conspiracy theories. Right?

1409
00:47:24,704 --> 00:47:26,805
There are lots of them out there and,

1410
00:47:26,865 --> 00:47:28,545
like, some of them are wild, and I

1411
00:47:28,545 --> 00:47:30,545
try not to go down the rabbit hole

1412
00:47:30,545 --> 00:47:32,785
too often because you'll stick your head in

1413
00:47:32,785 --> 00:47:33,925
the oven after.

1414
00:47:34,385 --> 00:47:35,445
Right? But,

1415
00:47:36,704 --> 00:47:40,239
nothing would surprise me. Yeah. There is nothing

1416
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,739
there there is no level of depravity

1417
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:44,339
or weirdness

1418
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:45,779
or evil

1419
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:48,659
that would surprise me at this point

1420
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,260
with with these leaders.

1421
00:47:50,655 --> 00:47:52,414
Yeah. I I think the point is, like,

1422
00:47:52,414 --> 00:47:55,135
my my general point saying question everything, but

1423
00:47:55,135 --> 00:47:56,815
the extra part of it is while considering

1424
00:47:56,815 --> 00:47:58,974
all possibilities. You know? Like you're saying, nothing

1425
00:47:58,974 --> 00:48:01,054
is out these these things like, what what

1426
00:48:01,054 --> 00:48:02,930
we just said there is in in a

1427
00:48:02,930 --> 00:48:05,090
very small step away from being exactly what

1428
00:48:05,090 --> 00:48:06,450
would make sense. You know? And even right

1429
00:48:06,450 --> 00:48:07,730
now, the idea that he might have already

1430
00:48:07,730 --> 00:48:09,090
done it, you know, it's like and I'm

1431
00:48:09,090 --> 00:48:10,450
not even saying that's what I think. It's

1432
00:48:10,450 --> 00:48:13,170
just an interesting time to consider how that

1433
00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:15,410
wild statement is, like, you know, that that

1434
00:48:15,410 --> 00:48:17,010
it's all very possible. They're doing all this

1435
00:48:17,010 --> 00:48:18,835
right now, you know, so just don't They

1436
00:48:18,835 --> 00:48:20,835
they can do it. Yeah. Yep. I mean,

1437
00:48:20,835 --> 00:48:22,994
they're they're all excited about it. They wanted

1438
00:48:22,994 --> 00:48:25,075
us to you know, they wanna nano bot

1439
00:48:25,075 --> 00:48:27,954
us and interface us with computers and Yeah.

1440
00:48:28,035 --> 00:48:31,155
Read our minds, Yuval Harari. I mean, screw

1441
00:48:31,155 --> 00:48:33,019
you. I don't want that. But they're I

1442
00:48:33,019 --> 00:48:34,780
mean, they're all very excited about this and,

1443
00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:36,380
you know, they're telling us that they can

1444
00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:38,380
do it, and they're telling us they're gonna

1445
00:48:38,380 --> 00:48:41,920
cure cancer and and, you know, pinpoint pandemics

1446
00:48:41,980 --> 00:48:43,739
before they even start. Well, how would you

1447
00:48:43,739 --> 00:48:45,760
do that? Well, it's by, you know, biological

1448
00:48:46,974 --> 00:48:49,614
data collection. Surveillance. Yeah. Real time. You know?

1449
00:48:49,614 --> 00:48:51,295
That's why I see it. These things. I

1450
00:48:51,295 --> 00:48:53,135
mean, that's terrifying too. That keeps me up

1451
00:48:53,135 --> 00:48:54,994
at night a little bit. You know? Yeah.

1452
00:48:55,855 --> 00:48:57,934
That's my big thing. The nanotech overlap, like,

1453
00:48:57,934 --> 00:48:59,934
the like, the thing that scares me, like,

1454
00:48:59,934 --> 00:49:01,469
the idea of what, like, how do you

1455
00:49:01,469 --> 00:49:02,989
even fight something like that? You know? And

1456
00:49:02,989 --> 00:49:05,630
that's and I've done long Jesus. I've done

1457
00:49:05,630 --> 00:49:07,889
that. I very I believe in Jesus.

1458
00:49:08,429 --> 00:49:09,869
So well, yeah. I mean, it's that that's

1459
00:49:09,869 --> 00:49:11,230
that's where it kinda takes you. It's just

1460
00:49:11,230 --> 00:49:12,829
like this is like so it's it might

1461
00:49:12,829 --> 00:49:14,835
as well be some, you know, it's just

1462
00:49:14,835 --> 00:49:16,275
so outside of the realm of possibility and,

1463
00:49:16,275 --> 00:49:17,474
like, the way we see the world, but

1464
00:49:17,474 --> 00:49:19,715
it's definitely coming in this direction. But before

1465
00:49:19,795 --> 00:49:21,954
so what's interesting is we we let's talk

1466
00:49:21,954 --> 00:49:23,795
about that and where it goes, AI Palantir.

1467
00:49:23,795 --> 00:49:25,795
But before that, let's talk about what seems

1468
00:49:25,795 --> 00:49:27,155
to be and even what we're just kind

1469
00:49:27,155 --> 00:49:28,989
of highlighting about, like, the fight. One of

1470
00:49:28,989 --> 00:49:31,070
the many things that people consider of why.

1471
00:49:31,070 --> 00:49:32,269
Like, what are they trying to pull your

1472
00:49:32,269 --> 00:49:34,590
attention away from? Well, the Palantir thing is

1473
00:49:34,590 --> 00:49:36,750
almost embarrassingly obvious, and you get the the

1474
00:49:36,750 --> 00:49:38,510
Joneses of the world. There's people, like, doing

1475
00:49:38,510 --> 00:49:40,110
this, like, tap dance, like, look over here.

1476
00:49:40,110 --> 00:49:41,945
Or, like, Palantir is a small company and

1477
00:49:41,945 --> 00:49:43,224
it's left that are pushing it. It's like,

1478
00:49:43,224 --> 00:49:45,385
wow. Like, it shows you how desperate it

1479
00:49:45,385 --> 00:49:47,385
is to try to not you know, people

1480
00:49:47,385 --> 00:49:48,905
don't they don't want people looking at this

1481
00:49:48,905 --> 00:49:51,065
from, like, a you know, the hierarchy enslaving

1482
00:49:51,065 --> 00:49:52,585
you they, like, the power structure, in my

1483
00:49:52,585 --> 00:49:53,885
opinion, because it's a nonpartisan

1484
00:49:54,599 --> 00:49:56,519
agenda to roll all this out. But my

1485
00:49:56,519 --> 00:49:57,640
point would be that there's a lot of

1486
00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,079
reasons they're trying to drive us there or

1487
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,000
distract us from it. So let's talk about

1488
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:01,500
the,

1489
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,340
LA

1490
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:06,519
overlap, which already is being pushed to use

1491
00:50:06,519 --> 00:50:08,280
Palantir, or they already are, in fact, for

1492
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,275
surveillance, for immigrants. So it all kinda comes

1493
00:50:10,275 --> 00:50:11,974
together. But I feel like we should address

1494
00:50:12,194 --> 00:50:14,434
this topic today because it's such an interesting

1495
00:50:14,434 --> 00:50:15,014
kind of,

1496
00:50:15,714 --> 00:50:17,954
in in inflection point that's being used, and

1497
00:50:17,954 --> 00:50:19,554
there's a lot of different agendas that cross

1498
00:50:19,554 --> 00:50:21,074
through it. So I thought we could start

1499
00:50:21,074 --> 00:50:22,275
with this clip that I do think was

1500
00:50:22,275 --> 00:50:24,275
pretty interesting. This is Sam Tripoli on Joe

1501
00:50:24,275 --> 00:50:24,775
Rogan

1502
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:27,079
In 2023,

1503
00:50:27,079 --> 00:50:30,619
basically laying out the the the process, basically

1504
00:50:30,760 --> 00:50:33,079
moving away from the woke ideology rolling into

1505
00:50:33,079 --> 00:50:35,239
immigration and then having the riots and stuff

1506
00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,719
take place today. Now it's not that hard

1507
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,160
to see that coming. I mean, I feel

1508
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,054
like myself, I made a similar point about,

1509
00:50:41,295 --> 00:50:42,815
you know, the woke as I've said even

1510
00:50:42,815 --> 00:50:45,135
recently with USAID, it's it's just I don't

1511
00:50:45,135 --> 00:50:46,734
believe that any of these people are, you

1512
00:50:46,734 --> 00:50:48,335
know, from the highest levels of power are

1513
00:50:48,335 --> 00:50:50,494
really caring about whether you use pronouns. It's

1514
00:50:50,494 --> 00:50:51,554
about an agenda.

1515
00:50:51,855 --> 00:50:52,514
Some people

1516
00:50:52,974 --> 00:50:55,099
absorbed it, but, really, it's a shoe in

1517
00:50:55,099 --> 00:50:56,380
the door for the regime change kind of

1518
00:50:56,380 --> 00:50:57,659
a thing. That's how I see the larger

1519
00:50:57,659 --> 00:51:00,380
point anyway. Or compliance test or what are

1520
00:51:00,380 --> 00:51:02,059
you willing to go along with? You know,

1521
00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:03,340
I think that they love to get us

1522
00:51:03,340 --> 00:51:06,159
to go along with the most absurd things

1523
00:51:06,460 --> 00:51:09,099
because that that is that is evidence of

1524
00:51:09,099 --> 00:51:11,375
of complete submission. When we turn our brains

1525
00:51:11,375 --> 00:51:13,534
off and we say, yes. Two plus two

1526
00:51:13,534 --> 00:51:15,534
does equal five. That's when they're like, okay.

1527
00:51:15,534 --> 00:51:18,034
We got them. They're ready to be suppressed

1528
00:51:18,255 --> 00:51:20,494
completely. You know? Yeah. Exactly. I mean, it

1529
00:51:20,574 --> 00:51:21,775
it's it's very clear that, you know, if

1530
00:51:21,775 --> 00:51:23,375
there's any number of different things that these

1531
00:51:23,375 --> 00:51:25,269
things can can achieve and, you know, just,

1532
00:51:25,269 --> 00:51:26,710
you know, awesome. One of them just getting

1533
00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:28,150
people to check out because it's just too

1534
00:51:28,150 --> 00:51:29,590
much. And so they're they're that's the best

1535
00:51:29,590 --> 00:51:32,070
case scenario. Eat their McDonald's, go to Walmart,

1536
00:51:32,070 --> 00:51:33,349
just sit back and not care about what's

1537
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:34,869
going on. You know, that's that's what they

1538
00:51:34,869 --> 00:51:36,869
want. But so this this clip is interesting.

1539
00:51:36,869 --> 00:51:38,869
So somebody did a juxtaposition of the two

1540
00:51:38,869 --> 00:51:39,369
things.

1541
00:51:39,764 --> 00:51:41,125
Sam shared it of just him saying this,

1542
00:51:41,125 --> 00:51:42,404
and this one, I think, is better because

1543
00:51:42,404 --> 00:51:45,045
it shows the 2025 and happening. And so

1544
00:51:45,045 --> 00:51:47,444
this is him in 2023 again, laying this

1545
00:51:47,444 --> 00:51:49,444
out. Basically, Mel Kaye, who I who we

1546
00:51:49,444 --> 00:51:51,684
discussed. You know Mel Kaye. Right? She's, you

1547
00:51:51,684 --> 00:51:52,964
know what I wanted. She does good good

1548
00:51:52,964 --> 00:51:55,250
work. And and so her talking to him

1549
00:51:55,250 --> 00:51:56,690
about this, I just think the timing is

1550
00:51:56,690 --> 00:51:57,190
interesting.

1551
00:51:57,570 --> 00:51:59,969
We're in the Bolshevik war right now, bro.

1552
00:51:59,969 --> 00:52:02,050
And right now, what's coming up is the

1553
00:52:02,289 --> 00:52:04,289
all the pride stuff is gonna be okay.

1554
00:52:04,289 --> 00:52:05,570
So I had this woman come on my

1555
00:52:05,570 --> 00:52:07,250
podcast. Her name is Mel Kaye. She goes,

1556
00:52:07,250 --> 00:52:09,289
I've been talking to some people in the

1557
00:52:09,289 --> 00:52:11,697
intelligence, and they go, this gay pride stuff

1558
00:52:11,697 --> 00:52:14,105
is going away. And the next thing you're

1559
00:52:14,105 --> 00:52:16,513
gonna see are immigration riots. This is gonna

1560
00:52:16,513 --> 00:52:18,921
be right around the the next election. So

1561
00:52:18,921 --> 00:52:21,328
hand to God, we do this episode. Next

1562
00:52:21,328 --> 00:52:23,789
day, Starbucks is like, we're banning all the

1563
00:52:23,789 --> 00:52:26,190
pride stuff. And now you start seeing these

1564
00:52:26,190 --> 00:52:28,449
little they're putting little breadcrumbs out, man.

1565
00:52:28,750 --> 00:52:31,309
Little breadcrumbs. Oh, I saw this one thing

1566
00:52:31,309 --> 00:52:31,969
in Chicago.

1567
00:52:32,429 --> 00:52:34,690
Oh, yeah. Illegal immigrants are upset

1568
00:52:35,005 --> 00:52:37,664
about where they're staying, and these illegal immigrants

1569
00:52:37,804 --> 00:52:40,625
who speak no English are holding up perfectly

1570
00:52:40,684 --> 00:52:42,304
written English signs

1571
00:52:42,605 --> 00:52:44,704
saying we're tired of how we're being treated.

1572
00:52:44,925 --> 00:52:47,085
And now you're starting to see this over

1573
00:52:47,085 --> 00:52:49,889
and over. Eric, so everyone's always like when

1574
00:52:49,889 --> 00:52:52,849
when all these Republican governors are, like, sending

1575
00:52:52,849 --> 00:52:55,409
these these immigrants all over the country, everyone's

1576
00:52:55,409 --> 00:52:58,449
like, yeah. You're showing those Democrats, bro. They're

1577
00:52:58,449 --> 00:53:01,585
moving assets. I know it sounds crazy, but

1578
00:53:01,585 --> 00:53:02,865
that is 100

1579
00:53:02,865 --> 00:53:04,545
what is What do you mean they're moving

1580
00:53:04,545 --> 00:53:06,065
assets? What do you mean? Dude, these guys

1581
00:53:06,065 --> 00:53:08,545
coming into the country, bro, there's have you

1582
00:53:08,545 --> 00:53:10,405
seen them? A lot of them are Chinese,

1583
00:53:10,625 --> 00:53:12,465
and a lot of them are military Asian

1584
00:53:12,465 --> 00:53:14,829
people. And I'm telling you, they're moving, and

1585
00:53:14,829 --> 00:53:16,989
this is what's gonna be right around twenty

1586
00:53:16,989 --> 00:53:17,969
twenty four election,

1587
00:53:18,670 --> 00:53:19,170
immigration

1588
00:53:19,469 --> 00:53:22,510
riots, people going nuts. And it as as

1589
00:53:22,750 --> 00:53:24,909
listen to this, and you'll start seeing all

1590
00:53:24,909 --> 00:53:26,905
the little bread crumbs from I'm telling you,

1591
00:53:26,905 --> 00:53:28,505
that's who they want you to buy. You're

1592
00:53:28,505 --> 00:53:30,105
buying it. Oh, I thought I was moving

1593
00:53:30,105 --> 00:53:31,944
assets. Assets, bro. You're the puppet. They're moving

1594
00:53:31,944 --> 00:53:32,444
assets.

1595
00:53:32,905 --> 00:53:35,804
Military people? Dude, if you study the Bolshevik

1596
00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:37,885
war, it is happening in real time.

1597
00:53:38,309 --> 00:53:39,690
100%.

1598
00:53:39,910 --> 00:53:41,430
But I just wanted to get that out

1599
00:53:41,430 --> 00:53:43,449
to everybody because I'm trying to warn people.

1600
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:44,969
This is what's next.

1601
00:53:45,269 --> 00:53:47,349
Ben. We're in the This guy right here.

1602
00:53:47,349 --> 00:53:48,550
I forget his name now. He's an actor.

1603
00:53:48,550 --> 00:53:50,070
You know, he's always the naysayer. He's always

1604
00:53:50,070 --> 00:53:51,510
like, I don't know about that. Like, this

1605
00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:52,010
guy.

1606
00:53:52,425 --> 00:53:54,184
But so it's Before they play role. They

1607
00:53:54,184 --> 00:53:56,204
do. They have roles. They play them.

1608
00:53:56,664 --> 00:53:58,184
Before we get into all of it, what's

1609
00:53:58,184 --> 00:54:00,265
interesting to me is so, basically, I don't

1610
00:54:00,265 --> 00:54:01,945
necessarily agree with everything he laid out there.

1611
00:54:01,945 --> 00:54:03,945
Like, I think what's clear like, the I

1612
00:54:03,945 --> 00:54:06,029
should to be to clarify, like, the idea,

1613
00:54:06,029 --> 00:54:08,150
like, military aid and Chinese like, all of

1614
00:54:08,150 --> 00:54:09,510
that is real to some degree. Like, the

1615
00:54:09,589 --> 00:54:11,670
but I don't know whether it is the

1616
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:12,730
point that like,

1617
00:54:13,429 --> 00:54:14,650
I think it's a nonpartisan

1618
00:54:15,190 --> 00:54:17,429
effort to drive us in this direction, and

1619
00:54:17,429 --> 00:54:18,949
so I think it's very it behooves us

1620
00:54:18,949 --> 00:54:20,835
to not fall into, like, the partisan angles

1621
00:54:20,835 --> 00:54:22,514
of it that get you thinking the democrats

1622
00:54:22,514 --> 00:54:24,434
are doing this to the republicans because and

1623
00:54:24,434 --> 00:54:25,714
let let's talk about this. I don't want

1624
00:54:25,714 --> 00:54:27,235
to lurch into all my opinions but it's

1625
00:54:27,235 --> 00:54:29,074
very interesting to see that the the narratives

1626
00:54:29,074 --> 00:54:30,675
just don't make any sense right now about

1627
00:54:30,675 --> 00:54:33,155
why that they would be doing this. But

1628
00:54:33,155 --> 00:54:34,835
what is interesting is the in the the

1629
00:54:34,835 --> 00:54:37,550
very clear timing of moving away from

1630
00:54:38,170 --> 00:54:39,150
the Wogue direction,

1631
00:54:39,530 --> 00:54:41,369
and not in everywhere, but in, like, the

1632
00:54:41,369 --> 00:54:43,769
mainstream push and then having this come to

1633
00:54:43,769 --> 00:54:46,349
pass. And it does very clearly work for

1634
00:54:46,410 --> 00:54:48,170
where this agenda is going. Like, one step

1635
00:54:48,329 --> 00:54:49,769
you know, one, two, three kind of threw

1636
00:54:49,769 --> 00:54:52,054
Biden into Trump, rather Trump into Biden back

1637
00:54:52,054 --> 00:54:53,655
at Trump. You know? And so what give

1638
00:54:53,655 --> 00:54:55,655
me your thoughts on that and then the

1639
00:54:55,655 --> 00:54:57,594
the what's going on in LA and everything.

1640
00:54:57,894 --> 00:55:00,295
Yeah. Well, I mean, for me, my knee

1641
00:55:00,295 --> 00:55:01,434
jerk is

1642
00:55:02,375 --> 00:55:02,875
clearly,

1643
00:55:04,650 --> 00:55:05,150
staged.

1644
00:55:05,609 --> 00:55:08,010
Oh, yeah. Clearly and, you know, for me,

1645
00:55:08,010 --> 00:55:08,750
it was

1646
00:55:09,369 --> 00:55:12,429
very reminiscent, to be honest, of the j

1647
00:55:12,569 --> 00:55:13,069
six

1648
00:55:13,449 --> 00:55:17,130
rallies in Washington DC Right. Protest, what they

1649
00:55:17,130 --> 00:55:18,989
believe was a stolen election.

1650
00:55:19,684 --> 00:55:21,525
So you take a group of people who

1651
00:55:21,525 --> 00:55:24,804
are good, normal, pretty much law abiding American

1652
00:55:24,804 --> 00:55:27,684
citizens, and you rile them up about something,

1653
00:55:27,684 --> 00:55:30,405
and you you press the emotional buttons and

1654
00:55:30,405 --> 00:55:31,465
the fear buttons,

1655
00:55:32,019 --> 00:55:35,239
and they all congregate in Washington DC. Palantir

1656
00:55:35,300 --> 00:55:37,880
is there scooping up all their facial recognition

1657
00:55:38,019 --> 00:55:38,519
data.

1658
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:40,280
You place a couple,

1659
00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:44,440
very strategically placed agent provocateurs,

1660
00:55:45,434 --> 00:55:45,934
people

1661
00:55:46,394 --> 00:55:49,275
like, Q the Shaman, if you remember the

1662
00:55:49,275 --> 00:55:51,454
guy with the weird head and the whatever,

1663
00:55:51,675 --> 00:55:54,574
ushering everyone into the capital. You had the

1664
00:55:54,635 --> 00:55:57,594
the Ray Epps character that was riling everyone

1665
00:55:57,594 --> 00:55:58,094
up.

1666
00:55:58,469 --> 00:56:01,670
And so you can really move, you can

1667
00:56:01,670 --> 00:56:05,130
herd a crowd into a dangerous situation

1668
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:08,949
and a potentially violent situation by just using

1669
00:56:08,949 --> 00:56:10,489
a few strategically placed,

1670
00:56:10,949 --> 00:56:12,570
change agents or or,

1671
00:56:12,949 --> 00:56:14,090
intelligence agents.

1672
00:56:14,445 --> 00:56:16,605
And when you look at what is happening

1673
00:56:16,605 --> 00:56:17,344
in LA,

1674
00:56:17,644 --> 00:56:20,204
the imagery, the picture of the flag, it's

1675
00:56:20,204 --> 00:56:22,684
just all too perfect. To me, it seems

1676
00:56:22,684 --> 00:56:23,184
like

1677
00:56:23,485 --> 00:56:24,465
a a theater

1678
00:56:24,765 --> 00:56:25,265
production.

1679
00:56:26,204 --> 00:56:28,860
And so, you know, the good and that's

1680
00:56:28,940 --> 00:56:31,280
that is the front facing. That's the narrative.

1681
00:56:31,420 --> 00:56:33,980
The narrative is to do what? Well, to

1682
00:56:33,980 --> 00:56:36,239
build a control grid. Right? To justify

1683
00:56:36,619 --> 00:56:37,599
I mean, you combine

1684
00:56:37,980 --> 00:56:40,539
you combine violence in cities across America or

1685
00:56:40,539 --> 00:56:42,559
perceived violence in cities across America

1686
00:56:43,674 --> 00:56:44,954
with a potential,

1687
00:56:46,234 --> 00:56:46,734
bioterror

1688
00:56:47,514 --> 00:56:47,954
attack

1689
00:56:48,394 --> 00:56:50,954
Mhmm. That they have been talking about and

1690
00:56:50,954 --> 00:56:52,014
also simulating,

1691
00:56:53,275 --> 00:56:55,772
in the past couple of months on July

1692
00:56:55,772 --> 00:56:57,949
4, for example, which is the date of

1693
00:56:57,949 --> 00:57:00,929
the attack that they talk about that, 02/2025,

1694
00:57:01,230 --> 00:57:04,030
it with an economic meltdown or crisis. And

1695
00:57:04,030 --> 00:57:05,789
you put all of those things together, you

1696
00:57:05,789 --> 00:57:08,030
have a Tinderbox, and then this is the

1697
00:57:08,030 --> 00:57:10,190
perfect opportunity for them to solve a lot

1698
00:57:10,190 --> 00:57:12,644
of problems for government. Right? Mhmm. The biggest

1699
00:57:12,644 --> 00:57:16,324
being that the the, you know, 30

1700
00:57:16,324 --> 00:57:17,844
debt and deficit and the fact that the

1701
00:57:17,844 --> 00:57:19,844
currency is about to collapse, and they're gonna

1702
00:57:19,844 --> 00:57:21,765
run out of money. Right? So they're in

1703
00:57:21,765 --> 00:57:23,204
this process. I mean, all of this, I

1704
00:57:23,204 --> 00:57:25,679
think everything always comes back to money. It's

1705
00:57:25,679 --> 00:57:28,179
the economy stupid is what Bill Clinton said.

1706
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,159
And I think a lot of times these

1707
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:30,659
distraction

1708
00:57:31,039 --> 00:57:32,500
campaigns are designed

1709
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:33,539
to

1710
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:37,119
solidify their power and their control base, which

1711
00:57:37,119 --> 00:57:40,085
will solidify the money or whatever transition we're

1712
00:57:40,085 --> 00:57:41,844
making into a new global currency or a

1713
00:57:41,844 --> 00:57:43,864
digital currency or a digital control grid,

1714
00:57:44,324 --> 00:57:45,704
but also then,

1715
00:57:46,724 --> 00:57:50,105
give the rationale for full scale military suppression

1716
00:57:50,164 --> 00:57:52,510
or a military police state. Now I say

1717
00:57:52,510 --> 00:57:54,430
that that's, like, kind of the worst case

1718
00:57:54,430 --> 00:57:56,829
scenario. I you know, I had nightmares about

1719
00:57:56,829 --> 00:57:58,990
a military police state during the lockdowns of

1720
00:57:58,990 --> 00:58:00,750
COVID nineteen. I think all of us were

1721
00:58:00,750 --> 00:58:02,829
like, where is this going to go? Are

1722
00:58:02,829 --> 00:58:04,925
they gonna roll tanks down the street, rip

1723
00:58:04,925 --> 00:58:06,445
us from our homes, put us in a

1724
00:58:06,445 --> 00:58:08,125
gurney, and shove a needle in our arm?

1725
00:58:08,125 --> 00:58:10,045
Is that where this is gonna go? What

1726
00:58:10,045 --> 00:58:11,585
I learned through COVID is that

1727
00:58:12,684 --> 00:58:15,405
actually achieving this agenda is quite difficult. Right?

1728
00:58:15,405 --> 00:58:17,425
Three hundred and sixty five million Americans

1729
00:58:17,909 --> 00:58:20,469
all in various, you know, locations of the

1730
00:58:20,469 --> 00:58:22,889
country. It's very difficult for them

1731
00:58:23,349 --> 00:58:25,289
to and even with the most sophisticated

1732
00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:28,309
propaganda operation I ever saw, and that was

1733
00:58:28,309 --> 00:58:29,210
during COVID.

1734
00:58:29,510 --> 00:58:31,909
Right? They were not able to fully lock

1735
00:58:31,909 --> 00:58:33,484
us down. They wanted

1736
00:58:34,264 --> 00:58:37,545
to they wanted vaccine mandates so badly for

1737
00:58:37,545 --> 00:58:39,864
every American, and they tried, but they weren't

1738
00:58:39,864 --> 00:58:40,364
able

1739
00:58:40,824 --> 00:58:41,324
to

1740
00:58:41,784 --> 00:58:44,424
to actually achieve that. They always need some

1741
00:58:44,424 --> 00:58:46,619
level of compliance from from the population. We're

1742
00:58:46,619 --> 00:58:49,420
always gonna receive some level of compliance, but

1743
00:58:49,420 --> 00:58:52,000
if there is a a loud enough minority

1744
00:58:52,380 --> 00:58:54,960
Mhmm. And a well connected enough minority,

1745
00:58:55,420 --> 00:58:58,219
we have the ability to very easily put

1746
00:58:58,219 --> 00:58:59,039
them down.

1747
00:58:59,534 --> 00:59:00,974
Right? They can try these things. And what

1748
00:59:00,974 --> 00:59:02,275
I love about

1749
00:59:02,574 --> 00:59:05,054
the recent psyops, the crazier they get, the

1750
00:59:05,054 --> 00:59:06,494
more people are like, this is like a

1751
00:59:06,494 --> 00:59:09,295
freaking cartoon. Right. This is ridiculous. This is

1752
00:59:09,295 --> 00:59:11,694
like this is like the road runner and

1753
00:59:11,694 --> 00:59:12,355
the Tasmanian

1754
00:59:12,655 --> 00:59:14,909
devil wrestling off a cliff. Like, that's the

1755
00:59:14,909 --> 00:59:17,069
way I look at these the Democrats and

1756
00:59:17,069 --> 00:59:17,569
Republicans

1757
00:59:18,349 --> 00:59:18,849
and

1758
00:59:19,150 --> 00:59:21,150
and Elon and Trump. Like, it's not it's

1759
00:59:21,150 --> 00:59:23,630
almost and not to say that violence in

1760
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:26,130
LA is is laughable. It's not.

1761
00:59:26,445 --> 00:59:28,765
Yeah. There's definitely violence. There's definitely there's also

1762
00:59:28,765 --> 00:59:30,285
real people protesting. You know? It it all

1763
00:59:30,285 --> 00:59:32,204
it all happens. And and quite frankly, a

1764
00:59:32,204 --> 00:59:33,805
lot of those real people are probably nice

1765
00:59:33,805 --> 00:59:35,485
people who just care about immigrants. I mean

1766
00:59:35,565 --> 00:59:37,644
Right. Like Or or more so care about

1767
00:59:37,644 --> 00:59:39,724
the fact that ICE is verifiably breaking the

1768
00:59:39,724 --> 00:59:41,289
law. And that's not to say that immigrants

1769
00:59:41,289 --> 00:59:43,049
that are illegally here shouldn't be deported. Like,

1770
00:59:43,049 --> 00:59:44,909
these things can exist in the same conversation.

1771
00:59:45,009 --> 00:59:47,210
Right. It's crazy. Right. Like, you could. We

1772
00:59:47,210 --> 00:59:48,349
could solve so many

1773
00:59:48,650 --> 00:59:50,809
so many problems in this country actually quite

1774
00:59:50,809 --> 00:59:52,905
easily. And I mentioned this on my show

1775
00:59:53,065 --> 00:59:54,265
yesterday. They're like, oh, well, what would you

1776
00:59:54,265 --> 00:59:56,744
do, Shannon? All the crime. And listen. I'm

1777
00:59:56,744 --> 00:59:59,065
like I appeal interestingly enough to a more

1778
00:59:59,065 --> 01:00:01,565
con I guess, Christian conservative kind of audience.

1779
01:00:02,184 --> 01:00:04,605
And, you know, we have been propagandized

1780
01:00:05,224 --> 01:00:05,724
with

1781
01:00:06,539 --> 01:00:09,119
the scary illegals and the gang cartels

1782
01:00:09,420 --> 01:00:11,840
and the I mean, it is relentless.

1783
01:00:12,219 --> 01:00:15,340
And those are big problems. Right? That it's

1784
01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:18,539
not okay that we are import importing terror

1785
01:00:18,539 --> 01:00:19,519
cells, terrorists,

1786
01:00:20,074 --> 01:00:22,174
terror groups, you know, cartels.

1787
01:00:22,634 --> 01:00:25,434
That's that's not okay at all. But, you

1788
01:00:25,434 --> 01:00:27,835
know, people are like, well, you shush. What

1789
01:00:27,835 --> 01:00:28,954
do you what do you do, Shannon? Like,

1790
01:00:28,954 --> 01:00:30,634
everything's gonna you're gonna have crime in your

1791
01:00:30,634 --> 01:00:32,234
neighborhood. I hope the terrorist comes to your

1792
01:00:32,234 --> 01:00:34,260
house. I'll get that sometimes. Right. And I'm

1793
01:00:34,260 --> 01:00:36,019
like, you know what? It's actually quite simple.

1794
01:00:36,019 --> 01:00:37,320
Like, you turn off the money.

1795
01:00:37,619 --> 01:00:39,539
You turn off the money. You give them

1796
01:00:39,539 --> 01:00:41,380
thirty days, and you say, hey. You know

1797
01:00:41,380 --> 01:00:43,619
what? We'll pay your plane ticket home. And

1798
01:00:43,619 --> 01:00:45,699
that's it. They everyone would most people would

1799
01:00:45,699 --> 01:00:48,255
self deport. Because the reality is that most

1800
01:00:48,255 --> 01:00:50,835
immigrants stay here because they get free school,

1801
01:00:51,135 --> 01:00:52,835
free health, free rent,

1802
01:00:53,295 --> 01:00:54,275
all of the benefits

1803
01:00:54,574 --> 01:00:56,914
from the federal and state governments through organizations

1804
01:00:57,054 --> 01:00:58,835
like Catholic charities and nongovernmental

1805
01:00:59,214 --> 01:00:59,714
organizations

1806
01:01:00,175 --> 01:01:02,559
and and all of these these orgs tethered

1807
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:04,239
to the government. And so if you just

1808
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:05,679
cut the money off, oh, that would also

1809
01:01:05,679 --> 01:01:07,760
have the added benefit of, you know, slashing

1810
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,519
our budget in the federal government. Right? If

1811
01:01:09,519 --> 01:01:10,980
we're really concerned

1812
01:01:11,359 --> 01:01:13,815
with, you know, curbing spending. I mean, so

1813
01:01:13,815 --> 01:01:15,815
all of these things could be done. They

1814
01:01:15,815 --> 01:01:17,514
aren't being done because,

1815
01:01:18,855 --> 01:01:21,734
once again, the they have succeeded in dividing

1816
01:01:21,734 --> 01:01:23,755
this country so that we can't have conversations

1817
01:01:24,614 --> 01:01:26,695
where a Democrat or a liberal would say,

1818
01:01:26,695 --> 01:01:28,409
well, I'm worried about immigrants. And you could

1819
01:01:28,409 --> 01:01:30,089
say, okay. Well, we gotta figure out something

1820
01:01:30,089 --> 01:01:32,170
here because I'm sure you also have a

1821
01:01:32,170 --> 01:01:34,409
a fence around your house, a door to

1822
01:01:34,409 --> 01:01:36,170
your house, and curtains on your window. And

1823
01:01:36,170 --> 01:01:38,170
I'm sure you wouldn't want some illegal coming

1824
01:01:38,170 --> 01:01:39,929
in and camping out on your couch and

1825
01:01:39,929 --> 01:01:41,835
getting in your fridge and taking your stuff.

1826
01:01:41,994 --> 01:01:43,675
Like, there's gotta be some kind of private

1827
01:01:43,675 --> 01:01:44,734
property here,

1828
01:01:45,355 --> 01:01:46,494
you know, where

1829
01:01:46,795 --> 01:01:49,454
we don't just let them pour in and

1830
01:01:49,755 --> 01:01:51,775
get I mean, come on. That's that's insane.

1831
01:01:51,994 --> 01:01:53,914
It it comes back to the manufactured nature

1832
01:01:53,914 --> 01:01:55,514
of this where at what you're alluding to

1833
01:01:55,514 --> 01:01:57,469
there is that both sides are benefiting from

1834
01:01:57,469 --> 01:01:59,469
the ongoing problem. And so it's, like, there's

1835
01:01:59,469 --> 01:02:01,630
there's narratives about what needs to happen vice

1836
01:02:01,630 --> 01:02:04,190
versa. Like, that very clear moment in in,

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I think it was, Biden's administration, or was

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it yeah. It was it was and where

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the Texas border

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became that big focal point, right, with those

1841
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things in the water with the razor blades,

1842
01:02:12,285 --> 01:02:14,445
whatever weirdness that was, which is crazy. But

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then

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01:02:15,724 --> 01:02:18,204
prominent conservative report where we're like, okay. Here's

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this border with the with the they're all

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01:02:19,724 --> 01:02:20,844
up at the gate and it's locked and

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01:02:20,844 --> 01:02:22,285
there and they drove down to the next

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stop and the gate was swinging open in

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the wind. And you're going like so they

1850
01:02:26,099 --> 01:02:28,099
can't just walk down? Like, we're being played,

1851
01:02:28,099 --> 01:02:30,199
guys. That's not the thing about illegal immigration,

1852
01:02:30,260 --> 01:02:32,280
but they're creating these buzz stories

1853
01:02:32,659 --> 01:02:33,859
that it that, you know, to to to

1854
01:02:33,859 --> 01:02:35,940
manipulate people. You know? And so the crazy

1855
01:02:35,940 --> 01:02:38,255
thing is, clearly, there's a lot of factors

1856
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involved with the immigration point. Like, I think,

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01:02:40,494 --> 01:02:40,994
obviously,

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the the main point is if someone is

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here illegally, that's breaking the law. They should

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be dealt with. That's that's the the bottom

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line is there's already laws to deal with

1862
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this stuff. That's why I want to manufacture

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all these narratives to be like, oh, it's

1864
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because they did this, therefore we don't we

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can't do it that way. There's never an

1866
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argument for me that I'll agree with that's

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01:02:56,789 --> 01:02:58,550
we can't follow the you know, we can't

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01:02:58,630 --> 01:03:00,869
here's why the constitution doesn't apply right now.

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01:03:00,869 --> 01:03:02,869
The Republicans made the same point during COVID

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and said there's no asterisk that says, except

1871
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when there's a pathogen. It's the same point.

1872
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You know, you've gotta follow what's real. But

1873
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the point is that, clearly, there's other acts

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factors

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like US foreign policy

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01:03:13,344 --> 01:03:15,905
that's literally using your tax dollars to destroy

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entire civilizations that then people flee and then

1878
01:03:18,369 --> 01:03:19,730
seek for some and what's crazy to me

1879
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is you got the Republican side of this,

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or both sides, really, still spinning this lie

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that it's like they're only coming here for

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a better life, and they wanna be here

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because freedom and democracy. And then when they

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actually try to do that in many cases,

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there are people right now in this country

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that are going through that process

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legally

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Right.

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The a citizenship through legal channels, you know.

1890
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And but, yes, there's also criminals. But it's

1891
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it's just a crazy dynamic where it's being

1892
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you know, they want one side to think

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that it is about only criminals. They want

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the other side to think that they're only

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arresting innocent people, whether illegal or not, should

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be here. Most people in the middle who

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are nonpartisan are aware of the fact I

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shouldn't say they're all nonpartisan, but aware of

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the fact that there's nuance to it. You

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know, that there and and the the point

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being that the government is using both those

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narratives to achieve a lot of different ends.

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And at least that's how I see it.

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Yeah. Well and I remember, you know, I

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advocated for my audience in remember the summer

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of rage in 2020 when, like, we were

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all locked down, but they could go and

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burn cities and, like, protest for BLM. Remember

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all that? So,

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and, you know, we I remember just being

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like, the the fear was really setting in

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and, you know, we're thinking, like, this is

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gonna spread, and it's gonna come, you know,

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to every city in America.

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And, you know, I was very concerned with

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what they were gonna do in order

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to to quell that.

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And,

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you know, I looked out my window, and

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I I said to my audience at one

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point, I'm like, listen.

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Like, 99%

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of The United States Of America is peaceful

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and quiet,

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and people go to bed at night and

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they tuck their kids in and they are

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safe, you know, things are okay.

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There these are moments.

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These are these are highly publicized

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moments in cities

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that are designed to make you think

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that that the government needs to take some

1933
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type of extraordinary action and try to take

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care of

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it.

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No. These are highly isolated, and we just

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need to, like, keep calm,

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carry on, and cling to our constitution.

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And

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get away with using our fear. 100. And

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and I'll and I'll say too that even

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if it was

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the extreme situation that you think they're framing

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it as, the answer is still not to

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violate the constitution. You know? That's that's what's

1946
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so insane is the only guideline we have.

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And I would even argue that I mean,

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clearly, the government for a long time, both

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sides of it, does not care about the

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constitution, but they know that we do. And

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so they have to constantly give lip service

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to pretending to care about it, and that

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illusion is being flirted with right now to

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being brought

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removed. Right? Like, right now. But what's crazy

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is they they do are they are bound

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by it to some degree, even if it's

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just because they need us to think that.

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So we that that's, like, the last tendril

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of hope we have in a state of

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society, different conversation, if that's what we wanna

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live in. If we I my mind is

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we could live in a world without government,

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but since we're stuck here, the constitution

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is is is important. You know? So it

1966
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just it's so it's so these are the

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conversations we need to have about this stuff

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because there's people out there that are are

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interested, that would otherwise be interested in hearing

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a nuanced argument, but they just don't know

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where to find it right now because they're,

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you know, algorithmically

1973
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jammed into the partisan, you know Totally. Commentators

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out there. Yeah. I think there's a total

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bottleneck there for sure. Absolutely.

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I so I wanted to go to a

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couple of the points I thought were interesting.

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And and this is so, basically,

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we've seen so the development of this is

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being like, we both seem to agree that

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this is being used to you know, whether

1982
01:06:34,485 --> 01:06:36,085
or not it's exactly the way it looks

1983
01:06:36,085 --> 01:06:37,445
to you or that the reality is that

1984
01:06:37,445 --> 01:06:39,285
it is still being used to achieve these

1985
01:06:39,285 --> 01:06:41,045
ends. And so the point we're making is

1986
01:06:41,045 --> 01:06:43,559
that the reality of them, like, for example,

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01:06:43,559 --> 01:06:45,320
deploying the military, which I don't know if

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you the the the national guard, the military,

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at this point, as far as I can

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tell, it is a direct and provable violation

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of the Policy Commitatus Act. And that's not

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just because they're

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deployed. But now what I found really interesting

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is, where I had pulled up right here.

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Where was that? I'm just jumping ahead a

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little bit. Okay. Here we are. So this

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is interesting

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because

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the air mail was a lawyer. He basically

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just came out, and and this is directly

2001
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citing from US. This is from ICE posting

2002
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,780
this. So ICE confirms they are using California

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National Guard troops deputized over the over the

2004
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,840
objection of Gavin Newsom, which I think is

2005
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:20,239
a he's a monster, to support ICE operations.

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01:07:20,239 --> 01:07:21,840
And so my point is simple. So they

2007
01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,994
are enforcing the law as well as as

2008
01:07:23,994 --> 01:07:26,094
we all already knew, just some pretending otherwise.

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01:07:26,315 --> 01:07:28,894
Therefore, based on the exact the Posse Comitatus

2010
01:07:28,954 --> 01:07:31,594
Act, they're they be and because, interestingly enough,

2011
01:07:31,594 --> 01:07:33,755
they were deployed under federal authority because they

2012
01:07:33,755 --> 01:07:35,114
didn't haven't been want to, which is a

2013
01:07:35,114 --> 01:07:37,034
whole state's rights discussion, but Trump does it

2014
01:07:37,034 --> 01:07:38,635
anyway. And so the point is this is

2015
01:07:38,635 --> 01:07:40,369
a textbook example of a violation of the

2016
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Pussy Comitatus Act. And this is not debatable,

2017
01:07:42,769 --> 01:07:44,610
guys. This is all very, very clear, but

2018
01:07:44,610 --> 01:07:46,530
yet it'll still be ignored. And so we

2019
01:07:46,690 --> 01:07:47,890
you can touch on that if you'd like.

2020
01:07:47,890 --> 01:07:49,570
My point is the broader idea that there's

2021
01:07:49,570 --> 01:07:52,034
a lot that's being done through this that

2022
01:07:52,034 --> 01:07:54,355
is unconstitutional, that is illegal. And the only

2023
01:07:54,355 --> 01:07:56,434
argument you're getting is that it's about a

2024
01:07:56,434 --> 01:07:59,074
Mexican invasion, which interestingly then gives them the

2025
01:07:59,074 --> 01:08:00,835
excuse to argue it is an insurrection or

2026
01:08:00,835 --> 01:08:03,155
rebellion, which then rationalizes why this wouldn't matter

2027
01:08:03,155 --> 01:08:04,674
anymore. And I'll touch on that next. But

2028
01:08:04,674 --> 01:08:05,894
what are your thoughts on that?

2029
01:08:06,250 --> 01:08:09,230
Yeah. I think that there are probably multiple,

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01:08:10,809 --> 01:08:11,309
rationales

2031
01:08:11,849 --> 01:08:12,349
for

2032
01:08:12,969 --> 01:08:15,390
this being a violation of the constitution

2033
01:08:15,769 --> 01:08:16,270
or

2034
01:08:16,570 --> 01:08:19,070
an an overreach of executive authority

2035
01:08:19,645 --> 01:08:22,125
by the president. And, gosh, I wish that

2036
01:08:22,125 --> 01:08:23,664
we could have those kind of conversations

2037
01:08:24,045 --> 01:08:25,664
in in Mhmm. In the country.

2038
01:08:26,364 --> 01:08:26,944
I think

2039
01:08:27,484 --> 01:08:29,664
even outside of the the constitution,

2040
01:08:30,125 --> 01:08:32,304
I I think it's an ex a terrifying

2041
01:08:32,444 --> 01:08:35,329
expansion of power. Oh, yeah. And I think

2042
01:08:35,329 --> 01:08:38,149
that that coupled with the military parade,

2043
01:08:38,770 --> 01:08:40,609
the movement of all the tanks and all

2044
01:08:40,609 --> 01:08:42,530
of the I mean, it's just it's just

2045
01:08:42,530 --> 01:08:44,770
frightening. I think it frightens people, and it

2046
01:08:44,770 --> 01:08:46,210
should frighten people, and I hope that it

2047
01:08:46,210 --> 01:08:47,109
frightens people.

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01:08:47,729 --> 01:08:48,229
And,

2049
01:08:49,935 --> 01:08:52,435
yeah. I mean, in some ways

2050
01:08:52,974 --> 01:08:53,875
you know, listen.

2051
01:08:54,654 --> 01:08:56,574
The constitution is the law of the land.

2052
01:08:56,574 --> 01:08:57,635
It is our governing

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01:08:58,654 --> 01:08:59,154
document.

2054
01:08:59,614 --> 01:09:00,114
Right?

2055
01:09:02,094 --> 01:09:02,755
We are

2056
01:09:03,829 --> 01:09:04,329
absolutely

2057
01:09:05,829 --> 01:09:07,130
engaging at least politically

2058
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:08,569
in a post constitutional

2059
01:09:10,470 --> 01:09:11,050
moment. Okay?

2060
01:09:11,590 --> 01:09:12,329
There is

2061
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no way either political party or this president

2062
01:09:16,229 --> 01:09:18,390
or Elon Musk, the co president, our co

2063
01:09:18,390 --> 01:09:19,655
dad in government,

2064
01:09:20,034 --> 01:09:21,255
okay, is

2065
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are are operating within the boundaries of the

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01:09:23,395 --> 01:09:23,895
constitution.

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The the coup de doge, which I covered

2068
01:09:26,914 --> 01:09:28,854
on my show extensively,

2069
01:09:29,954 --> 01:09:32,534
involved Elon Musk walking in with technologists

2070
01:09:33,090 --> 01:09:33,590
and

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01:09:34,210 --> 01:09:36,229
basically siphoning off and sucking

2072
01:09:38,770 --> 01:09:40,789
up trillions of dollars, potentially,

2073
01:09:41,570 --> 01:09:42,229
in in

2074
01:09:43,329 --> 01:09:45,250
the most valuable data on the face of

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the planet

2076
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and doing whatever they want with it. Okay?

2077
01:09:48,905 --> 01:09:51,145
So handing it to Peter Thiel over at

2078
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Palantir. I mean, we are looking at so

2079
01:09:52,824 --> 01:09:53,324
many

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01:09:53,784 --> 01:09:56,524
aspects of of a a rogue

2081
01:09:57,225 --> 01:09:59,064
cartel government, and this is why I really

2082
01:09:59,064 --> 01:10:01,020
appreciate the work of Catherine Austin Fitts

2083
01:10:01,500 --> 01:10:02,880
and and Whitney Webb.

2084
01:10:03,579 --> 01:10:05,359
I think that Catherine nails it.

2085
01:10:05,659 --> 01:10:07,359
I think we are dealing with

2086
01:10:07,819 --> 01:10:08,319
criminal

2087
01:10:08,699 --> 01:10:10,800
enterprises here. Mhmm. They're a cartel.

2088
01:10:11,180 --> 01:10:12,239
I think that Biden

2089
01:10:12,619 --> 01:10:13,920
is part of the criminal

2090
01:10:14,380 --> 01:10:16,140
cartel. I think that Trump is part of

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the cartel.

2092
01:10:17,235 --> 01:10:19,255
I think most of the front facing people

2093
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that we see are

2094
01:10:21,155 --> 01:10:22,135
are actors

2095
01:10:22,515 --> 01:10:24,675
in a in a sense. They they don't

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really wield the power,

2097
01:10:26,675 --> 01:10:28,675
but they do play a role. I think

2098
01:10:28,675 --> 01:10:30,195
they know what their role is. I would

2099
01:10:30,195 --> 01:10:31,655
even say that Elon Musk,

2100
01:10:32,190 --> 01:10:34,030
you know, and Catherine would call him an

2101
01:10:34,030 --> 01:10:34,530
operation,

2102
01:10:34,989 --> 01:10:37,390
not a a man. Right? Right. They're

2103
01:10:37,869 --> 01:10:40,210
you you don't run seven massive corporations,

2104
01:10:40,590 --> 01:10:42,510
tweet all day, and play video games all

2105
01:10:42,510 --> 01:10:46,130
day while having junkets in the Oval Office

2106
01:10:46,454 --> 01:10:48,154
and with, you know, Trump's cabinet

2107
01:10:48,935 --> 01:10:50,774
if you don't have a a team of

2108
01:10:50,774 --> 01:10:53,014
people pushing that messaging out. Right. So there's

2109
01:10:53,014 --> 01:10:53,755
a point

2110
01:10:54,375 --> 01:10:57,014
to the Elon. There's a point to the

2111
01:10:57,014 --> 01:10:57,514
Trump,

2112
01:10:57,895 --> 01:10:58,395
and

2113
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:02,159
and it it's it's criminal in nature. So

2114
01:11:02,159 --> 01:11:04,420
grappling with that as an American is difficult,

2115
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:06,800
but the the answer though is and you

2116
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,880
mentioned something earlier. We should probably wrap it

2117
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:10,159
up pretty soon because I don't wanna I

2118
01:11:10,159 --> 01:11:12,925
think I'm yeah. I'm I'm coming up with

2119
01:11:12,925 --> 01:11:15,965
a against the meeting. Mhmm. Absolutely. You mentioned,

2120
01:11:15,965 --> 01:11:17,404
you know, the thing that they don't wanna

2121
01:11:17,404 --> 01:11:18,545
do is to,

2122
01:11:19,244 --> 01:11:22,784
have people, like, tune out or or not,

2123
01:11:22,925 --> 01:11:24,944
you know, not play ball or be involved.

2124
01:11:25,770 --> 01:11:27,369
There there is a part of that, though,

2125
01:11:27,369 --> 01:11:28,510
that I think is incredibly

2126
01:11:28,970 --> 01:11:29,470
powerful

2127
01:11:29,850 --> 01:11:30,090
in

2128
01:11:31,609 --> 01:11:33,710
if we just turn off the Washington

2129
01:11:34,250 --> 01:11:35,869
the Washington DC show,

2130
01:11:37,050 --> 01:11:37,869
and we

2131
01:11:38,489 --> 01:11:40,270
retreated back into federalism

2132
01:11:40,975 --> 01:11:43,395
or localism. Even more important than federalism

2133
01:11:43,935 --> 01:11:46,114
would be localism. Right? The municipality,

2134
01:11:46,654 --> 01:11:49,614
local governments, your town, your village, your family,

2135
01:11:49,614 --> 01:11:51,875
your community, your civics organizations.

2136
01:11:52,414 --> 01:11:53,715
Right? And

2137
01:11:54,015 --> 01:11:55,154
and, basically,

2138
01:11:56,649 --> 01:11:59,050
just said to Washington DC, I mean, you

2139
01:11:59,050 --> 01:12:00,510
have no jurisdiction here.

2140
01:12:00,889 --> 01:12:02,569
So you can play your little games and

2141
01:12:02,569 --> 01:12:04,170
you can try to, you know, roll in

2142
01:12:04,170 --> 01:12:06,809
your military. Like, try to suppress The United

2143
01:12:06,809 --> 01:12:09,130
States Of America with your military. Like, I

2144
01:12:09,130 --> 01:12:10,429
mean, you can't do it.

2145
01:12:10,755 --> 01:12:13,335
There's no way. There's just absolutely no way.

2146
01:12:13,395 --> 01:12:15,235
And then when you see then when you

2147
01:12:15,235 --> 01:12:16,935
begin to see the actions of,

2148
01:12:17,475 --> 01:12:18,935
governors like Ron DeSantis

2149
01:12:19,235 --> 01:12:21,875
making gold and silver legal tender and beginning

2150
01:12:21,875 --> 01:12:24,390
the process of establishing a state sovereign bank,

2151
01:12:24,550 --> 01:12:26,470
And then, you know, starting the process of

2152
01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:28,710
real real estate reform, tax reform, where you

2153
01:12:28,710 --> 01:12:30,869
don't pay taxes on real estate anymore because

2154
01:12:30,869 --> 01:12:32,010
that's also a violation

2155
01:12:32,550 --> 01:12:34,489
of of constitutional principles.

2156
01:12:34,949 --> 01:12:36,550
And then you see that other governors, like

2157
01:12:36,550 --> 01:12:39,765
governor Abbott in Texas, is is mimicking this.

2158
01:12:40,164 --> 01:12:42,585
And you you begin to see the states

2159
01:12:44,805 --> 01:12:45,305
emancipate

2160
01:12:45,885 --> 01:12:47,064
Mhmm. Government.

2161
01:12:47,765 --> 01:12:49,765
And the more we emancipate from the federal

2162
01:12:49,765 --> 01:12:52,185
government, the money part is really important because

2163
01:12:52,570 --> 01:12:54,670
when you are able to have a sovereign

2164
01:12:54,729 --> 01:12:56,510
bank, which is also constitutional,

2165
01:12:57,210 --> 01:12:59,530
right, and I think you I think North

2166
01:12:59,530 --> 01:13:01,710
North Dakota has had a a sovereign,

2167
01:13:02,170 --> 01:13:03,949
bank for since '2 or since

2168
01:13:04,489 --> 01:13:05,689
1919

2169
01:13:05,689 --> 01:13:07,369
or nineteen o nine or something, whatever, like

2170
01:13:07,369 --> 01:13:07,869
hundred.

2171
01:13:09,774 --> 01:13:12,755
Then you realize that the only tether

2172
01:13:13,135 --> 01:13:14,975
that the federal government has on us is

2173
01:13:14,975 --> 01:13:16,655
through the money, the benny's. It's all the

2174
01:13:16,655 --> 01:13:19,295
money, the the largest coming. So we send

2175
01:13:19,295 --> 01:13:21,715
all of our money to Washington, DC. They

2176
01:13:22,015 --> 01:13:24,970
launder it. They steal it. They hand it

2177
01:13:24,970 --> 01:13:26,729
out to their people. Right? They use it

2178
01:13:26,729 --> 01:13:28,250
to enrich their partners, and then they give

2179
01:13:28,250 --> 01:13:30,329
us, like, some crumbs. Right. Back to the

2180
01:13:30,329 --> 01:13:31,789
states. That's what we got. Right?

2181
01:13:32,090 --> 01:13:33,229
When when we realize

2182
01:13:33,530 --> 01:13:35,130
that we don't have to go through that

2183
01:13:35,130 --> 01:13:37,869
money laundering process, like, they don't have anything

2184
01:13:38,675 --> 01:13:40,694
if we don't send it to them.

2185
01:13:40,994 --> 01:13:43,335
And then you have, you know, people operating

2186
01:13:43,715 --> 01:13:46,354
operating at the state level in self preservation

2187
01:13:46,354 --> 01:13:48,034
because at the end of the day, I

2188
01:13:48,034 --> 01:13:49,654
think people still want to survive.

2189
01:13:50,675 --> 01:13:53,095
We we want to, I don't know, like

2190
01:13:53,300 --> 01:13:54,119
like, fall

2191
01:13:54,579 --> 01:13:56,840
in love and get married and have children

2192
01:13:56,900 --> 01:14:00,500
and and pursue happiness and build a house,

2193
01:14:00,500 --> 01:14:02,820
plant a garden, have grand like, none of

2194
01:14:02,820 --> 01:14:05,460
that will ever change. That's that's the human

2195
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:08,100
experience. That's five thousand years of human history.

2196
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:10,395
That's never gonna change. There's always gonna be

2197
01:14:10,395 --> 01:14:11,135
an economy.

2198
01:14:11,435 --> 01:14:13,354
There are always gonna be relationships. The question

2199
01:14:13,354 --> 01:14:15,034
is, are we going to turn off their

2200
01:14:15,034 --> 01:14:17,914
ridiculous show? Right. Start getting to the work

2201
01:14:17,914 --> 01:14:20,154
of of building up, you know, our own

2202
01:14:20,154 --> 01:14:22,255
intro infrastructure from the bottom up.

2203
01:14:22,579 --> 01:14:24,420
That's the big part of all that of

2204
01:14:24,420 --> 01:14:25,239
of all of this.

2205
01:14:25,699 --> 01:14:27,619
And the, you know, the other part too

2206
01:14:27,619 --> 01:14:29,779
is I think it is much they like

2207
01:14:29,779 --> 01:14:31,719
to project project strength.

2208
01:14:32,179 --> 01:14:33,000
Their technology,

2209
01:14:33,699 --> 01:14:36,819
their tanks, and their guns and right? They

2210
01:14:36,819 --> 01:14:39,015
want to they want us disillusioned.

2211
01:14:39,795 --> 01:14:41,494
They want us depressed,

2212
01:14:42,274 --> 01:14:42,774
apathetic,

2213
01:14:43,635 --> 01:14:44,135
terrified,

2214
01:14:44,435 --> 01:14:46,595
and they do that through that that projection

2215
01:14:46,595 --> 01:14:47,255
of strength.

2216
01:14:48,034 --> 01:14:49,954
I don't think they're nearly as strong as

2217
01:14:49,954 --> 01:14:51,329
we think they are. I agree. And I

2218
01:14:51,329 --> 01:14:52,689
don't think they know what to do if

2219
01:14:52,689 --> 01:14:54,930
we really enough of us, not even a

2220
01:14:54,930 --> 01:14:57,109
majority, just a a loud minority

2221
01:14:57,409 --> 01:14:58,609
stand up and say, you know what? We're

2222
01:14:58,609 --> 01:15:00,770
just not buying this anymore. You're done. I

2223
01:15:00,770 --> 01:15:02,689
agree. You know? I really do. I mean,

2224
01:15:02,689 --> 01:15:04,385
I think that's such a, you know the

2225
01:15:04,385 --> 01:15:06,064
problem is so many people would dismiss that

2226
01:15:06,064 --> 01:15:08,145
as just impossible, not you know, without even

2227
01:15:08,145 --> 01:15:09,744
giving it the the real thought that it

2228
01:15:09,744 --> 01:15:12,305
deserves and understand that in any circumstance, like

2229
01:15:12,305 --> 01:15:14,465
taking a local point with police and engaging

2230
01:15:14,465 --> 01:15:16,704
with a a crowd, they have a number

2231
01:15:16,704 --> 01:15:18,679
in their mind. Maybe not the individual people,

2232
01:15:18,679 --> 01:15:20,119
but the people who are in charge, they

2233
01:15:20,119 --> 01:15:22,199
know we can't take more than this number.

2234
01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:23,399
And this is a very important point to

2235
01:15:23,399 --> 01:15:24,679
think about. And if we do if we

2236
01:15:24,679 --> 01:15:27,319
notice that's happening, we strategically pull back. And

2237
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:28,520
that's why you see those moves where they

2238
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,914
just let things continue to happen. The government

2239
01:15:30,975 --> 01:15:33,614
knows that. Whether it's continuity of government, you

2240
01:15:33,614 --> 01:15:35,935
know, large term play, they know if this

2241
01:15:35,935 --> 01:15:38,255
many people in this country resist, we can't

2242
01:15:38,255 --> 01:15:40,494
functionally do anything other than just come at

2243
01:15:40,494 --> 01:15:42,029
them with full force, which that would be,

2244
01:15:42,109 --> 01:15:44,349
you know, that's that's arguably, that's not in

2245
01:15:44,349 --> 01:15:46,029
their interest either. You know? We saw it

2246
01:15:46,029 --> 01:15:48,829
with COVID. Right. We saw it with COVID.

2247
01:15:48,829 --> 01:15:51,789
The only country in the world that had

2248
01:15:52,109 --> 01:15:54,750
we probably had 35, maybe even forty five

2249
01:15:54,750 --> 01:15:56,369
percent or not forty

2250
01:15:57,034 --> 01:15:58,494
of the of this country

2251
01:15:58,954 --> 01:16:00,414
refused the COVID vaccine

2252
01:16:01,034 --> 01:16:03,054
to great detriment. Right?

2253
01:16:03,514 --> 01:16:04,974
That's, like, extraordinary.

2254
01:16:05,354 --> 01:16:07,755
And they were not there's that was a

2255
01:16:07,755 --> 01:16:09,835
major problem for them. I agree. But it's

2256
01:16:09,914 --> 01:16:11,194
it it will continue to be a major

2257
01:16:11,194 --> 01:16:13,220
problem for that for them. So we can

2258
01:16:13,220 --> 01:16:15,220
see it working in real time. We just

2259
01:16:15,220 --> 01:16:17,380
have to expand on it. 100%. Move it

2260
01:16:17,380 --> 01:16:19,460
together. Yes. Well, since you have to go

2261
01:16:19,460 --> 01:16:20,900
soon, I was gonna just play one more

2262
01:16:20,900 --> 01:16:22,579
clip Yeah. That and you have time for

2263
01:16:22,579 --> 01:16:24,500
that? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, I think so

2264
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:25,699
cup two points to end with, I think,

2265
01:16:25,699 --> 01:16:27,625
are interesting. And then we should definitely connect

2266
01:16:27,625 --> 01:16:28,984
again. I think there's plenty more we could

2267
01:16:28,984 --> 01:16:30,984
get into. There's plenty never an end of

2268
01:16:30,984 --> 01:16:32,685
stuff to talk about. I agree. I agree.

2269
01:16:32,824 --> 01:16:34,024
Oh, I have to have you on my

2270
01:16:34,024 --> 01:16:35,944
show. So now you have to reset we

2271
01:16:35,944 --> 01:16:37,864
gotta do the reciprocal, and then you have

2272
01:16:37,864 --> 01:16:39,625
on my show because Count on it. Conversation.

2273
01:16:39,625 --> 01:16:40,904
I'm looking forward to it. I knew I

2274
01:16:40,904 --> 01:16:41,819
was gonna like you.

2275
01:16:42,939 --> 01:16:44,300
What's weird, we start the show, and we're,

2276
01:16:44,300 --> 01:16:45,579
like, already on the same page with where

2277
01:16:45,579 --> 01:16:47,420
we're going with the stuff. So there's something

2278
01:16:47,420 --> 01:16:49,579
there. But so this I tweeted this today.

2279
01:16:49,579 --> 01:16:51,420
And then this was just another article, in

2280
01:16:51,420 --> 01:16:53,979
Texas. You mentioned governor Abbott is already saying

2281
01:16:53,979 --> 01:16:56,139
he's gonna deploy the National Guard because there's

2282
01:16:56,139 --> 01:16:57,439
a protest that's scheduled.

2283
01:16:57,875 --> 01:16:59,154
And I'm like, okay. This is see, this

2284
01:16:59,154 --> 01:17:00,435
is and this is not new, really. We've

2285
01:17:00,435 --> 01:17:01,954
seen this kind of thing happen before, but

2286
01:17:01,954 --> 01:17:04,194
I just wanna point out, deploying military before

2287
01:17:04,194 --> 01:17:06,274
a planned protest, not due to violence, but

2288
01:17:06,274 --> 01:17:08,554
simply to claim that it could happen. We're

2289
01:17:08,675 --> 01:17:10,194
and I this is my opinion anyway. We're

2290
01:17:10,194 --> 01:17:12,510
being destroyed by fake America First Sinist. I

2291
01:17:12,510 --> 01:17:14,109
think that's a really large part of this.

2292
01:17:14,109 --> 01:17:15,470
And so the I wanna play this clip

2293
01:17:15,470 --> 01:17:17,390
of Trump. You mentioned the military parade. Here's

2294
01:17:17,390 --> 01:17:18,989
what Trump just said. Very short clip. You

2295
01:17:18,989 --> 01:17:21,149
probably saw it. I think this is alarming

2296
01:17:21,149 --> 01:17:22,510
that this is where we are. Not not

2297
01:17:22,510 --> 01:17:24,109
if they do this, but just a stated

2298
01:17:24,109 --> 01:17:26,585
fact, if they protest. Yeah. Big on Saturday.

2299
01:17:26,585 --> 01:17:28,025
We're gonna have a lot of and if

2300
01:17:28,025 --> 01:17:29,864
there's any protest that wants to come out,

2301
01:17:29,864 --> 01:17:31,805
they will be met with very big force.

2302
01:17:31,864 --> 01:17:33,885
Okay. That's not okay. Wanna protest.

2303
01:17:34,345 --> 01:17:36,185
He said pre met with very big force.

2304
01:17:36,185 --> 01:17:38,045
And I haven't even heard about a protest,

2305
01:17:38,619 --> 01:17:41,100
but, you know, this is, people that hate

2306
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:41,760
our country.

2307
01:17:42,460 --> 01:17:44,479
Let's go, Ryan. Let's go protest.

2308
01:17:44,939 --> 01:17:46,539
He says it three times in a row.

2309
01:17:46,539 --> 01:17:48,140
And I'm just like, okay. There's no nuance

2310
01:17:48,140 --> 01:17:49,659
there. Like, he's saying if they protest, they'll

2311
01:17:49,659 --> 01:17:51,135
be met with force. And they, like so

2312
01:17:51,135 --> 01:17:54,014
everyone that might protest automatically hates the country?

2313
01:17:54,014 --> 01:17:56,494
Like, guys, these are, like, inherently anti American

2314
01:17:56,494 --> 01:17:58,574
sentiments that he's pushing out. And it's just

2315
01:17:58,574 --> 01:18:00,494
so important that we acknowledge these things and

2316
01:18:00,494 --> 01:18:02,255
back to the larger point about what's happening

2317
01:18:02,255 --> 01:18:03,694
with all this and as both of us

2318
01:18:03,694 --> 01:18:05,395
discuss how it's being used. Go ahead.

2319
01:18:05,739 --> 01:18:07,680
No. No. We have to resist that,

2320
01:18:08,060 --> 01:18:10,000
and and we might have to go

2321
01:18:10,300 --> 01:18:11,659
protest. I mean, we might have to go

2322
01:18:11,659 --> 01:18:13,199
and stand up and peacefully,

2323
01:18:13,820 --> 01:18:16,079
regardless of our opinions about immigration

2324
01:18:16,699 --> 01:18:18,880
or ICE or any of those things, because

2325
01:18:19,444 --> 01:18:22,345
what governor Abbott said is is horrifying.

2326
01:18:23,125 --> 01:18:24,585
It is blatantly unconstitutional.

2327
01:18:25,125 --> 01:18:26,185
We have the right

2328
01:18:26,564 --> 01:18:27,385
to speech.

2329
01:18:27,685 --> 01:18:29,925
Right? Right. So we have the right to

2330
01:18:29,925 --> 01:18:32,265
read to free speech. That means assembly.

2331
01:18:32,645 --> 01:18:34,185
We have the right to assemble,

2332
01:18:34,860 --> 01:18:37,520
period. And if we wanna go and protest

2333
01:18:37,979 --> 01:18:40,399
president Trump's little military parade,

2334
01:18:40,780 --> 01:18:43,119
then we should be able to do so.

2335
01:18:43,340 --> 01:18:45,039
And in fact, I think we probably

2336
01:18:45,659 --> 01:18:48,015
we are probably compelled to do so. That's

2337
01:18:48,015 --> 01:18:48,515
outrageous.

2338
01:18:49,135 --> 01:18:50,435
It is. That's outrageous.

2339
01:18:50,975 --> 01:18:52,814
And it's just alarming how many people will,

2340
01:18:52,814 --> 01:18:54,814
like, know that and agree with us, but

2341
01:18:54,814 --> 01:18:56,414
fail to call it out because of who's

2342
01:18:56,414 --> 01:18:57,775
saying it. And that's what the you know,

2343
01:18:57,775 --> 01:18:59,534
one of the driving points today is, you

2344
01:18:59,534 --> 01:19:01,375
know, it's about principles. It's about what you

2345
01:19:01,375 --> 01:19:03,270
believe is right. And you know as well

2346
01:19:03,270 --> 01:19:04,630
as I out there listening that what you're

2347
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:06,389
seeing in many ways is making you uncomfortable.

2348
01:19:06,389 --> 01:19:08,229
And, obviously, if it was Biden, you'd already

2349
01:19:08,229 --> 01:19:09,750
be yelling about it. Well, they'd lose their

2350
01:19:09,750 --> 01:19:10,969
minds. They'd lose

2351
01:19:11,750 --> 01:19:12,250
their

2352
01:19:13,109 --> 01:19:14,010
Alex Jones,

2353
01:19:14,550 --> 01:19:17,024
his face would be so red, and his

2354
01:19:17,024 --> 01:19:19,284
gains would be popping out of his neck.

2355
01:19:19,505 --> 01:19:22,005
Bongino too. Like, all they would go

2356
01:19:22,704 --> 01:19:23,204
absolutely

2357
01:19:23,744 --> 01:19:24,885
batshit crazy.

2358
01:19:25,185 --> 01:19:27,344
Right. Well, I mean, since you work I

2359
01:19:27,344 --> 01:19:29,585
mean, crazy. Since you point that out, just

2360
01:19:29,585 --> 01:19:30,704
to to end, I think this is one

2361
01:19:30,704 --> 01:19:31,960
of the things that I oh, only show

2362
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:33,639
this since I mentioned it as well. Catherine

2363
01:19:33,639 --> 01:19:36,520
shared this simply highlighting that these these protests

2364
01:19:36,520 --> 01:19:38,599
are being funded by groups. I just I

2365
01:19:38,599 --> 01:19:40,039
just warn us to think that it's a

2366
01:19:40,039 --> 01:19:42,279
left right paradigm thing, whether it's left groups

2367
01:19:42,279 --> 01:19:44,359
or not. I think what's happening doesn't what

2368
01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:45,925
I was gonna say is how you explain

2369
01:19:45,925 --> 01:19:47,284
to me that what the argument from the

2370
01:19:47,284 --> 01:19:49,364
right is is the left wants immigrants to

2371
01:19:49,364 --> 01:19:51,525
be here, yet they manufacture chaos that drives

2372
01:19:51,525 --> 01:19:53,765
the outcome of not letting immigrants be here.

2373
01:19:53,765 --> 01:19:55,445
Like, it just these things don't make sense

2374
01:19:55,445 --> 01:19:57,045
to me, but they are being orchestrated. We

2375
01:19:57,045 --> 01:19:58,164
both agree on that. I just think it's

2376
01:19:58,164 --> 01:20:00,529
important that we remember that it's, know, a

2377
01:20:00,529 --> 01:20:02,770
two party illusion dynamic. But, I want I'll

2378
01:20:02,770 --> 01:20:04,609
show you this video before we leave, and

2379
01:20:04,609 --> 01:20:06,289
I wanted to highlight things like this. You

2380
01:20:06,289 --> 01:20:08,789
know, Alex saying the democrat finance controlled insurrection

2381
01:20:08,850 --> 01:20:11,090
is now spreading nationwide. Oh my gosh. And

2382
01:20:11,090 --> 01:20:13,454
insurrection being used, in my opinion, because that's

2383
01:20:13,454 --> 01:20:15,375
what gives the government the justification to not

2384
01:20:15,375 --> 01:20:16,755
have to worry about Pasi Kamitatas.

2385
01:20:17,295 --> 01:20:18,534
And then this one about Mexico. Oh, I'll

2386
01:20:18,574 --> 01:20:19,694
we I gotta I know you gotta go.

2387
01:20:19,694 --> 01:20:20,734
So I'll play this one on the way

2388
01:20:20,734 --> 01:20:22,654
out just so I think it's important. As

2389
01:20:22,654 --> 01:20:24,335
at this as James says, seeing is no

2390
01:20:24,335 --> 01:20:26,109
longer believing. Head Head on a swivel, y'all.

2391
01:20:26,109 --> 01:20:27,550
Things are about to get wild. And I

2392
01:20:27,550 --> 01:20:28,430
can play this on the way out, or

2393
01:20:28,430 --> 01:20:29,429
you wanna would you like me to play

2394
01:20:29,429 --> 01:20:30,270
it every week? I can give you a

2395
01:20:30,270 --> 01:20:31,710
couple. I need a couple more minutes. I

2396
01:20:31,710 --> 01:20:33,550
mean yeah. That's okay. This will be the

2397
01:20:33,550 --> 01:20:35,970
last one. And it's, let's see.

2398
01:20:36,430 --> 01:20:37,710
Oh, did I forget to grab it? Here,

2399
01:20:37,710 --> 01:20:39,864
let's see. It's what what it is, basically,

2400
01:20:39,864 --> 01:20:42,664
is it's a video of, of just somebody

2401
01:20:42,664 --> 01:20:43,564
showing the capabilities,

2402
01:20:44,345 --> 01:20:46,104
not to say that she necessarily you know,

2403
01:20:46,104 --> 01:20:48,104
this is what's happening at these places, but

2404
01:20:48,104 --> 01:20:51,225
simply showing that the capabilities of these platforms

2405
01:20:51,225 --> 01:20:53,085
today to basically, you know, do

2406
01:20:53,729 --> 01:20:55,489
not necessarily deep fakes, but I guess that

2407
01:20:55,489 --> 01:20:57,489
is what it would be called, false video

2408
01:20:57,489 --> 01:20:59,010
of what you're seeing. And so this is

2409
01:20:59,010 --> 01:21:00,550
just something to keep in mind

2410
01:21:00,930 --> 01:21:02,449
with all that's going on and how you're

2411
01:21:02,449 --> 01:21:04,369
being driven to hate a certain side. Here

2412
01:21:04,449 --> 01:21:06,289
here's a video that I think is compelling

2413
01:21:06,289 --> 01:21:07,829
that James Lee shared. Okay.

2414
01:21:08,595 --> 01:21:10,675
I live in LA, so I decided to

2415
01:21:10,675 --> 01:21:12,914
go downtown today and talk to people and

2416
01:21:12,914 --> 01:21:15,154
find out what's really going on, what's their

2417
01:21:15,154 --> 01:21:17,574
side of the story to only get attacked

2418
01:21:17,795 --> 01:21:20,534
and realize that they're all full of shit.

2419
01:21:20,595 --> 01:21:22,914
Okay? Can't believe any of them. They're all

2420
01:21:22,914 --> 01:21:23,729
full of shit.

2421
01:21:24,210 --> 01:21:25,890
Did you catch that? It's a it's a

2422
01:21:25,890 --> 01:21:27,090
it's a it's a a or what do

2423
01:21:27,090 --> 01:21:28,449
they call it? A a filter you put

2424
01:21:28,449 --> 01:21:30,449
over on TikTok or whatever else that makes

2425
01:21:30,449 --> 01:21:31,729
it look like you're beat up. You know?

2426
01:21:31,729 --> 01:21:33,510
It's Oh, no way.

2427
01:21:33,810 --> 01:21:35,810
Yep. And these are everywhere. You know? People

2428
01:21:35,810 --> 01:21:37,729
are using this now. My point is always

2429
01:21:37,729 --> 01:21:39,945
is you'll always get people just to watch

2430
01:21:39,945 --> 01:21:41,145
the world burn. They wanna come out and

2431
01:21:41,145 --> 01:21:43,145
just throw something in that makes people upset.

2432
01:21:43,145 --> 01:21:45,465
But there's also very clear intelligence and political

2433
01:21:45,465 --> 01:21:47,564
agendas. I just think that's important to consider.

2434
01:21:48,345 --> 01:21:50,925
It you know, every discernment, wisdom,

2435
01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:53,340
sobriety,

2436
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:57,320
I think, is is gonna be critical moving

2437
01:21:57,320 --> 01:22:00,119
forward because there is just so much deception

2438
01:22:00,119 --> 01:22:02,840
out there. That is that is wild. And

2439
01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,680
I'll tell you, Alex Jones is an utter

2440
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:05,180
tragedy.

2441
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:06,780
A a tragedy,

2442
01:22:07,234 --> 01:22:09,974
I can't, like I don't know how anyone

2443
01:22:10,994 --> 01:22:12,755
can take him serious. I mean, well, I

2444
01:22:12,755 --> 01:22:15,654
mean, he's clearly he's clearly

2445
01:22:16,194 --> 01:22:16,934
a propagandist.

2446
01:22:17,715 --> 01:22:19,715
I mean, in in every sense of the

2447
01:22:19,715 --> 01:22:22,350
word. I agree. At the very least. No.

2448
01:22:22,350 --> 01:22:23,869
I agree completely. I just think that it's

2449
01:22:23,869 --> 01:22:26,430
it's agreeing with you. There's a 100 examples

2450
01:22:26,430 --> 01:22:28,270
over the process of a week that show

2451
01:22:28,270 --> 01:22:30,670
you dishonest tactics or just flat out incorrect

2452
01:22:30,670 --> 01:22:32,350
information. And, you know, it's I'm not it's

2453
01:22:32,350 --> 01:22:34,689
not about hating somebody. It's about showing people

2454
01:22:34,835 --> 01:22:36,594
that you're being deceived. And whether he knows

2455
01:22:36,594 --> 01:22:38,435
it or not, which I find almost impossible

2456
01:22:38,435 --> 01:22:40,034
if he doesn't, you know, there's a lot

2457
01:22:40,034 --> 01:22:41,635
of people like that out there. So the

2458
01:22:41,635 --> 01:22:43,954
message is just question everything. Right? You don't

2459
01:22:43,954 --> 01:22:46,034
fall into these ideological bubbles because they're using

2460
01:22:46,034 --> 01:22:47,395
you. You know? Right. Yeah. And, you know,

2461
01:22:47,395 --> 01:22:48,835
we can make it we probably give a

2462
01:22:48,835 --> 01:22:51,789
million examples of Democrats doing this too. Exactly.

2463
01:22:51,850 --> 01:22:53,689
For me, it's it's the people in power.

2464
01:22:53,689 --> 01:22:54,670
See, I follow

2465
01:22:54,970 --> 01:22:55,710
the powerful.

2466
01:22:56,170 --> 01:22:58,010
And so when the Democrats are in power,

2467
01:22:58,010 --> 01:22:59,470
I'm gonna scrutinize them.

2468
01:22:59,850 --> 01:23:01,369
When the Republicans are in power, I'm gonna

2469
01:23:01,369 --> 01:23:03,930
scrutinize them. We're in dangerous times, and so

2470
01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:05,289
I'm I'm glad that you and I made

2471
01:23:05,289 --> 01:23:08,275
this, connection. I so appreciate your work.

2472
01:23:08,814 --> 01:23:09,555
I really

2473
01:23:10,015 --> 01:23:12,015
need if if there's a wavelength, we're both

2474
01:23:12,015 --> 01:23:14,335
on it for sure. Like Wavelength. It's, you

2475
01:23:14,335 --> 01:23:16,175
know, it's very rare that you meet someone

2476
01:23:16,175 --> 01:23:17,235
you're like you know?

2477
01:23:17,695 --> 01:23:20,400
But but I really appreciate you having me

2478
01:23:20,400 --> 01:23:22,480
on, and I just cannot wait to introduce

2479
01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:24,480
you to my audience as well because this

2480
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:25,920
has been a long time coming, I think.

2481
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:26,739
And so

2482
01:23:27,119 --> 01:23:29,920
here's to to hopefully a a lot of

2483
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,840
future years in collaboration. We have a lot

2484
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:32,234
of work

2485
01:23:34,715 --> 01:23:34,755
to do for sure. Yes. Here. Here. Thank

2486
01:23:34,755 --> 01:23:34,795
you. And I'm looking forward to it as

2487
01:23:34,795 --> 01:23:36,395
well. I'm sure you know, I I think

2488
01:23:36,395 --> 01:23:38,314
that there's like we were saying earlier that,

2489
01:23:38,314 --> 01:23:39,755
you know, there's an effort out there to

2490
01:23:39,755 --> 01:23:41,994
stop certain people from collaborating, in my opinion.

2491
01:23:41,994 --> 01:23:43,914
Call me a conspiracy theorist. Plenty do. I

2492
01:23:43,914 --> 01:23:46,130
think it's interesting that there's a reason, you

2493
01:23:46,130 --> 01:23:48,689
know, you can see why. When people, especially

2494
01:23:48,689 --> 01:23:50,930
with audiences and and you overlap that, like,

2495
01:23:50,930 --> 01:23:52,609
you gain momentum with these things. And I

2496
01:23:52,609 --> 01:23:54,530
think the system, more than ever, that we

2497
01:23:54,530 --> 01:23:56,770
saw right before the selection of of 2024

2498
01:23:56,770 --> 01:23:59,095
and 2025, that people were just, you know,

2499
01:23:59,095 --> 01:24:01,095
were going, you know, question the two party

2500
01:24:01,095 --> 01:24:03,295
illusion. Maybe don't maybe vote for vote for

2501
01:24:03,414 --> 01:24:05,095
don't vote or vote somebody. And people lost

2502
01:24:05,095 --> 01:24:06,614
their minds when we've been saying that for

2503
01:24:06,614 --> 01:24:08,935
years. The system is is desperate. It is

2504
01:24:08,935 --> 01:24:10,375
vulnerable right now. And I I don't mean

2505
01:24:10,375 --> 01:24:12,060
a collapse the country sense. I mean, the

2506
01:24:12,060 --> 01:24:13,899
sense of the power structures trying to control

2507
01:24:13,899 --> 01:24:15,340
you. And there's a it's a time right

2508
01:24:15,340 --> 01:24:17,100
now, as you say, for for real change.

2509
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:18,699
And I think that we do have let's

2510
01:24:18,699 --> 01:24:19,579
put it this way. We do have a

2511
01:24:19,579 --> 01:24:20,780
lot of work to do. I'm looking forward

2512
01:24:20,780 --> 01:24:23,100
to it. Absolutely. Thank you so thank you

2513
01:24:23,100 --> 01:24:25,284
so much. Appreciate you. Yeah. And as always,

2514
01:24:25,284 --> 01:24:27,385
everybody out there, thank you for joining. Question

2515
01:24:27,444 --> 01:24:30,344
everything. Come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant.