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Welcome to the last American Vagabond. Joining me

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today, once again, for our kind of recurring

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planned podcast going forward is Charlie Robinson to

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talk about, as I titled today, what the

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hell is happening,

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aptly because we've been talking about this kind

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of jokingly, a lot of us have, around

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how ridiculous and rapid

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rapid the news cycle is, whatever that even

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means today. And, funny enough, as we were

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talking last time and briefly, I think at

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the end of last discussion we had, you

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know, we're saying we'll kinda just touch base

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on some of the crazy things that are

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happening. And then I reached out recently and

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said, hey. Let's connect. In my mind, thinking

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of something, oh, we're gonna have to talk

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about that. And then I was getting ready

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for the show today going, I don't even

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remember what it was that I was reaching

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out about. And it was so profound in

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the moment, then I'm laughing to myself because

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there's just so much to get into, not

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a profound thought. But today, we'll go into

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what the hell's happening today and what you

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know, different pieces of the partisan dynamic of

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politics of as a real political machinations, foreign

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policy,

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all sorts of things, and no one better

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to talk about with about those things with

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than Charlie Robinson. How are you, brother? I'm

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good. How are you?

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Frustrated.

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Before we get started, I I'm dealing with

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all sorts of wild, ridiculous technological things in

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the background, but not to get into that

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right now.

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Browser shutting down and so on, but that

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is the the world that we're entering into.

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But, you know, it's we were also kinda

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briefly talking about how, you know, it's it's

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it's it's,

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frustrating. You know? It will

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personally drive you crazy. It will cause you

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to get frustrated. You know? And I think

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that's a lot of what this is about

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if that is what's happening. We do know

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to some degree that is going on in

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the world, but, you know, I I wanted

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to start today with sort of,

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you know, what's up well, actually, one thing

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I wanna start with before we got into

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that, I want to ask you what's on

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your mind. Before I go into what I'm

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thinking about and what I see, I wanna

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see what stands out to you the most.

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But randomly wanted to get your thought on

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this before we get into it. I was

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getting show ready for the show today, and

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I and I don't know if you've been

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following Rockfin and and what's been going on

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with that, you know, like the kinda just

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the shift they've done away from independent media

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and the kind of different changes that have

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been made. I noticed today, and I was

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talking with Steve about this yesterday, I'm not

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even given an option anymore to make this

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free,

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which is strange to me seeing as how

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Steve is still able to as you saw

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yesterday. So I don't know if that's just

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me being boxed out of being able to

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make this a free

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show on Rockfin. But I just want your

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general thoughts around that because that's interesting that

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we've all in a or a lot of

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ways, we, you know, we we talked about

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Rockfin

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being a kind of an alternative

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to a lot of different platforms out there,

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and that's kinda shifted. I wonder your thoughts

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on just generally where that's going, you know,

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with that. And then if, you know, whether

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that's something you're seeing as well on the

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free versus not.

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Yeah. I gave up on Rock. I still

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post there, but I really gave up on

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them after they did the price hike

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back in the

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tail end of twenty twenty two

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when they

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bumped their prices up by 50%.

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Mhmm. And I watched my

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revenue fall off by 90%.

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People just left. Just didn't wanna have anything

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to do it. And, you know, they give

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you in the analytics, you can what it's

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a nice little bar chart. So it's a

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visual representation

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of exactly what's going on.

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the difference between when you've got a %

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versus 10% of of the revenue that's supposed

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to come. So I I got frustrated with

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that. I see what they're doing now. They're

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they're they're trying they don't want us there

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anymore. They they don't

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view us

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as moneymakers for them. I think they wanna

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focus on wrestling and and college athletics, and

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that's fine. That's what they that's what they

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started with.

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But the the treatment has been

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not the best. The communication is absolutely

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Yeah. Abysmal. They could write

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they could do, you know, college courses on

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how not to

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communicate, you know, how how to not run

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a business. And Rockfin has dropped the ball

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on a a variety of different ways.

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You know, and we used to have an

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open line of of dialogue with Martin and

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with the guys over there, and that's turned

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off. Yep. They don't wanna hear from us

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anymore. So I'm I'm I'm not surprised

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that you're having an issue like that. I

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think, ultimately, they would just prefer that we

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went away. You know, if that's exactly where

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mine was going, is that it's like, I

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I I at first, I was kinda like,

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you know, I maybe I won't wanna use

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them anymore because that doesn't align, but then

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I'm starting to feel like we're being, you

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know, the contrary in nature from the you

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know, as we're being pushed away from the

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platform. Like, well well, screw that. I'm I'm

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not gonna be pushed away from the platform

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either. And I just think that's what's happening

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for me is, you know, I was I

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remember when right right in the beginning, I

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believe I was even the first

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early aspect of Brockfin or person they brought

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on that they allowed to do free because

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it was built around the premium dynamic. And

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I said, well, I don't wanna do that.

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the you know, all free content through us,

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and then a lot of other people, you

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know, like Steve and others, are doing the

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same thing. And so that's been kind of

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the market for this is for us that

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are on there that just wanna use the

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mechanism to help, you know, donations and so

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on. And for them to remove that, just

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seems like that's, like, the final straw, like,

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just hoping that I'll jump off the platform.

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It's frustrating because, I mean, everyone out there

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listening, if you wanna keep using Rockfin, feel

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free. I I just don't think you have

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to pay for this content. It's free everywhere

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else. You know? And I don't like promoting

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platforms that do that, but you're right. It

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it's been very you know, I yeah. Same

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kind of point. I feel like the it

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was they decided at one point that we

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were no longer in their interest, and instead

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of handling that in a mature nature, they

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just boxed us out in hopes that we

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would just, you know the thing is is

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they know that there's no real representation for

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people like us in this field out there.

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They leaned into the mainstream. You know? And

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that's, right, that's their prerogative. It's the way

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that it went down. They left a bad

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taste in my mouth as well. So it's

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very frustrating. There's a lot of good plotters

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out there. You know? Odyssey and Bitshoot and

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plenty of others that are really striving to

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do better every day.

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oh, go ahead. Sorry. Go ahead. Your comments

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are No. No. No. It's we we yeah.

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It's just Rockfin being Rockfin.

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with what's what's, you know, before I go

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into plenty of things that I I think

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we're all you and I probably have similar,

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you know, large topics that stand out what's

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going on today. But if I asked you

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at the start of the show, you know,

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what's go what's on your mind right now?

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Like, right there. What would be the first

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thing that jumps to your mind right now

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today with what's going on? Let's talk about

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that.

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I I'm in agreement with you. I feel

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like I need an entire wall size dry

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erase board to just write all of the

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current things that are going on. Unfortunately, none

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of them would really get erased because

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they don't ever the problems never seem to

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get solved, but it's just the frustration of

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the week. I if you had to ask

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me what what stands out, oh, I don't

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know. The self immolation

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of Kash Patel and Dan Bongino

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talking about We'll start with that. Talking about

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Jeffrey Epstein and everything. I mean,

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I get the feeling, and I have no

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particular inside information to this, but I get

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the feeling that they were instructed. You're gonna

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go out there and say he killed himself.

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You're you're or or, you know, and you're

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gonna go out there and you're gonna sell

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this this story, and and they well, nobody's

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gonna believe us. And he said, well, that's

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the point.

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That's the point, actually. It's for you to

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go out there and look the camera, look

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look the people right in the eye in

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the camera, and then just blatantly lie to

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them so that everybody understands that you have

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no credibility,

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nothing's changed, you're not gonna get to the

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bottom of the deep state, you're not fixing

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the FBI. None of that stuff is happening.

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None of this. And then the the the

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follow-up to that, which was a a a

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Bongino interview today, which was saying, yeah, actually,

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there's a there's a video and we're gonna

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release it. Oh, you do that. You go

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ahead and do that. And just watch the

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rest of your credibility completely evaporate because

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everybody knows that you're lying,

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including them, and it's

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you know, I think it's performative. You know?

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about how they're they're changing things. But,

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to me, that's been

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just it's just such an obvious lie.

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A lie that

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really didn't need to be told. And and,

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of course, when they when they put the

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video out, everyone will run it through AI

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filters and see what it says. And my

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guess is that it's going to be very

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high quality, but it'll still be a fake.

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And that these people are never to be

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believed under any circumstances. If you think Dan

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Bongino is coming to save you, you're deluded.

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Okay? This is not the type of guy

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who this guy is a he is he

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is with

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the state.

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That is his entire career. He came up

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through the the the Fox News media apparatus,

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and now he's in the FBI. I mean,

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you don't get much more of a statist

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than that. So the the idea that this

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guy is gonna get to the bottom of

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it is laughable, and I think only a

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very small

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segment of the population actually believes

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that. I also wonder if this messaging is

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even for us. You know, I mean, they

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know that we're gonna see this and go,

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get out of here. This is nonsense. You

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know? So I wonder if it's if this

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is for the,

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you know, the

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40%

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of the population. They were just asleep at

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the wheel, and they just go, oh, okay.

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It turns out that I saw a headline

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that said that it was, you know, that

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Epstein Epstein really did kill himself and that

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and that there's a video. That's all I

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need to know, and boom, they go off

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about their day. And in their mind,

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case closed, problem solved, we figured it out.

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Whereas the rest of us that actually

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sift through this information and and give it

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a critical eye, we look at this and

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we go, this is

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nonsense. It's not a it's not a it's

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not reality. So I I just wonder if,

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and maybe two things can be true at

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the same time. The messaging

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can be for

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a dumbed down segment of the population that

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has no no real knowledge of the case,

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and also sort of a middle finger to

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the rest of us that says, oh, you

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thought we were here to help you? No.

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Here's the messaging that we're giving you. Case

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closed, Everything's been solved.

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Don't worry about your conspiracy theories. And and

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then that you see, like, a I don't

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know if you ever if you saw this

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tweet. It was embarrassing on its face, but

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it was Juanita Broderick, who should know better,

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saying

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in what felt to me like almost like

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a hostage situation where she retweeted the Bongino

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and Cash,

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interview, and she said, well,

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if they said it's true, then it's true.

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Wow. Case closed in my mind. Mind goes

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followers.

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Yeah. That's dangerous. That's a dangerous way of

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living your life. So I don't know. It's

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been that's been on my radar recently. Or

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the litany of people that came out and

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were like like, couldn't like, mental gymnastics for

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the first half of, like, a 14 paragraph

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tweet that's like, they're doing great and they're

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wonderful. And here's what they but now let's

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get into why I think they might be

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lying. It's like, you didn't need all that

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fluff. You know, it shows you that they're

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really not trying to get to the bottom

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of it. They want you to think that

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they care about the lies that we all

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see. You know, it's all there's so many

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people out there that are operating in, like,

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this you know, they're just trying to maintain

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their business. You know what I mean? And

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the and the business right now is, you

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know, biz

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what's the the phrase?

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I can't think of it. You know, business

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is doing well under this dynamic, and so

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they wanna just maintain that. But it's funny

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you bring it up because that was the

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first few things that I had lined up

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today. And what's interesting rather, before I go

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to my thoughts, you know, what you're saying

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right there

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is interesting. Do you what do you think

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the outcome is, though? Like, what is the

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so if you if what you're saying is

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correct and they really you know, anyone is

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just theorizing, but they're saying that they want

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to or that you're you're hypothesizing that they

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want to put this out there to

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even though we all see it, knowing that

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even those that are following it might push

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back, what's the what's their objective, though? You

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know? Because wouldn't you think to some degree

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that they want to fool at least their

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supporters into thinking that this is their team

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still winning? Because that seems like at least

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a clumsy part of it, but I think

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you're right. I don't I see more conservatives

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at this point calling this out than anybody.

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So I just you know, what do you

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think their objective is in your opinion? Like,

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with this play, is it trying to show

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them that they're being lied to or, you

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know, how do you see it?

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I think it's part part of it is

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just also a reminder to us that nothing

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is ever gonna change and a demoralization

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tactic. Okay. That's what I'm getting at. Out

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there.

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Okay.

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We're we're we're gonna stand up there, look

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you in the eyes, and lie to your

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face about something that you know we're lying

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about, about something that everybody knows isn't true.

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We're gonna tell you we're gonna tell you

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that the sky is green, and you're gonna

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like it. You know? It it it's a

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there you know, you would think

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that that the messaging would be, well, we

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gotta convince these people that we're telling the

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truth. I I mean, I wonder whether that's

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what they're trying to do and just failing.

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You know? Like, then we and we said

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to give them a little bit too much,

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you know, sometimes they really are just incompetent.

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You know? Like, there's a lot of them

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like that. You know?

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Totally possible. For sure. Yeah. That that that

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they're just bad at this or that it's

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arrogance that Bongino goes, listen. I'm a go

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up there. You put me in front of

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that camera. I'll sell it. Don't worry about

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anything. I'm the best. I'm the best liar

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you've ever seen. I've been working in the

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media, I've been working for the cops, I've

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worked for the FBI. If anyone's a liar,

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it's me. Right? I can get out there,

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look them in the eye and tell them,

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you know, and and give them the story

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that we've agreed upon.

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But the expressions

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on Kash Patel's face kinda said it all

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to me. I mean, that guy

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part of it, you know, felt like a

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hostage video. You know, like, there's somebody off

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camera

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with a gun to your kid's head and

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he's like, you're gonna go up there and

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you're gonna sell this turd to the American

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public and you better do a good job

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of it. You know? So it it it's

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it's

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it's

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just another example

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of how

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those people who

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think that the cavalry is coming to save

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them are going to be disappointed

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once again. But I'll tell you, it better

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to be disappointed now in the beginning of

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this administration and then understand what you're what

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you're up against for the next three and

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a half years than to have some sort

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of hopium and think that Donald j Trump

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is coming to save you. There's there's no

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evidence to to support that and that the

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FBI is gonna magically all of a sudden

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get to the bottom of things. That's just

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not how it works. People need to understand

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what these systems are in place to do.

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They're not in they're not the FBI is

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not there to get justice for the American

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people.

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That's the sales pitch. The FBI is there

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to spy

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on the corporations

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or on behalf of the banks,

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to

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contain

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narratives,

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to run blackmail entrapment operations.

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They're gangsters. They're not they're not the good

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cop coming to save you. They're all the

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bad cops. And Dan Bongino is a perfect

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example of this. There's nothing about that guy

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that should set your mind at ease at

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all.

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I've never seen anything about him that made

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me think that he's he's,

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some sort of champion for truth and justice

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in the American way. It just feels like

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a gigantic

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phony sales pitch by a bunch of sociopaths.

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And,

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but, of course, I'm not disappointed by this.

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I and and I know you're not disappointed

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by this either. We knew that this was

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going to happen. I think that the MAGA

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people out there that maybe thought that, you

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know, this time is different. I'm not gonna

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win the fall for fell for it again

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award,

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but they fell for it again. Mhmm. When

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you trust when you when you attempt to

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trust these people, you will be disappointed

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over and over and over again if you're

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paying attention. So,

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better now than later, I suppose, for the

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MAGA people and better that they just wake

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up to the lies, you know, because because

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this delusion

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that that the the white hats are in

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charge, trust the plan,

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patriots in control, all that you cue to

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electric boogaloo. You know, it's all it's all

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coming back to me again. How dangerous the

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MAGA crowd could be. We saw we know

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how what the leftist will do when left

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unchecked. The the they'll burn your city down

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and transition your kids. You know what I

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mean? They're they're unhinged.

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But the the MAGA delusion is a little

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different

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because they genuinely believe that somebody good is

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coming to save them.

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And so I feel it's better that they

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get disappointed early than, you know, than than

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have to figure this out in year three.

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I'm but I I agree with you entirely,

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but I see it as the same. I

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mean, it's just a you're right. But just

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a different flavor. Right? Because if you look

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at it from the other side, it's the

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same idea as you got the left that's

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really arguing that there's certain parts of the

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it's their different part of the government that

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they think needs to save us from the

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other part. It's the opposite version of the

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same problem. So my opinion, I think we've

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agreed on this, is just partisanship.

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It's just partisanship, not, you know, one they're

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equally dangerous in very different ways, and I

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think that's very much by design. But so

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so you're but I agree with you. But

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so back to the point about this whole

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thing, it's I and I agree with you

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on that too, but it's interesting on the

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why of it is what gets me. It's

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so fascinating to look at this because I

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guess you're right. It could just be that

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they chose these people because they're incompetent or

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because they want you to know that we're

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lying and that you're and that that's like,

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you're just supposed to accept that, get past

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the fact that we're lying and you know

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we're lying and that you weren't in control.

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Like, that does possibly feel like that makes

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sense. But the other side of that, another

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alternative could be that they are like you're

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saying, maybe it is a hostage video because

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maybe a foreign power has completely taken control

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of what's going on. That's not a crazy

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thing to think right now from an Israeli

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perspective. Or, you know, maybe these people are

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just that incompetent. And I think we've been

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driven into that by a lot of things,

525
00:17:12,025 --> 00:17:13,625
and they think as you're saying, hubris. So

526
00:17:13,625 --> 00:17:15,705
it's just hard to tell exactly why. But

527
00:17:15,705 --> 00:17:17,065
let's go let's go to the clips that

528
00:17:17,144 --> 00:17:18,265
we'll go over the clips where you were

529
00:17:18,265 --> 00:17:20,025
talking about and and discuss what they're saying.

530
00:17:20,025 --> 00:17:21,099
And I think, to

531
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:22,920
me, I get the sense that from the

532
00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:24,359
MAGA side of this, rather than just the

533
00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:27,320
Republican partisan side, it's important that these people

534
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,480
continue to think that they're winning. I do

535
00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:30,920
think that's a part of this from some

536
00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:32,920
people's perspective. And so if there's a part

537
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:34,565
of it that is meant to be, we're

538
00:17:34,565 --> 00:17:36,805
showing you we're lying, I just that worries

539
00:17:36,805 --> 00:17:38,325
me. What that either means that there's an

540
00:17:38,325 --> 00:17:40,964
endgame coming soon or that, you know, another

541
00:17:40,964 --> 00:17:42,565
shoe is gonna drop. That's what I worry

542
00:17:42,565 --> 00:17:44,325
about, though, that that sentiment. So let let's

543
00:17:44,325 --> 00:17:46,244
watch some of these clips really quickly, and

544
00:17:46,244 --> 00:17:47,305
and we'll see.

545
00:17:47,710 --> 00:17:49,470
Now this one was oh, I was this

546
00:17:49,470 --> 00:17:50,950
is this was my tweet about it. I'm

547
00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:52,670
I'm laughing at the the cheerleading of this,

548
00:17:52,670 --> 00:17:54,830
and this is Bennie Johnson sharing it, where

549
00:17:54,830 --> 00:17:56,289
ultimately, it was

550
00:17:56,830 --> 00:17:59,390
he said FBI, director Kash Patel confirms the

551
00:17:59,390 --> 00:18:01,470
definitive answer on whether FBI sources were present

552
00:18:01,470 --> 00:18:02,954
during January 6. We'll come back to that

553
00:18:02,954 --> 00:18:04,654
one. That this one will start with

554
00:18:05,035 --> 00:18:07,275
the Epstein point. So under that interview, he

555
00:18:07,275 --> 00:18:09,115
also pointed out that the Epstein killed himself

556
00:18:09,115 --> 00:18:10,554
point, and this is just a short one.

557
00:18:10,554 --> 00:18:11,054
Importantly,

558
00:18:12,234 --> 00:18:14,730
people have had questions about January 6 and

559
00:18:14,730 --> 00:18:16,089
whether or not they were That's alright. That's

560
00:18:16,089 --> 00:18:17,609
the wrong one. This one. But there is

561
00:18:17,609 --> 00:18:19,529
a lot of conspiracy theories out there. There

562
00:18:19,529 --> 00:18:21,929
are. The Epstein thing, you dealt with Maria.

563
00:18:21,929 --> 00:18:22,589
You said,

564
00:18:22,970 --> 00:18:24,809
as far as you know, he killed himself.

565
00:18:24,809 --> 00:18:26,809
I'm telling you, he killed himself. The other

566
00:18:26,809 --> 00:18:28,394
thing on the So that's just that. Shall

567
00:18:28,394 --> 00:18:29,994
we hear that? That's very clear. Right? So

568
00:18:29,994 --> 00:18:31,055
here's the one with Bongino

569
00:18:31,595 --> 00:18:33,035
pointing out that there's a video. Now this

570
00:18:33,035 --> 00:18:34,075
is what I really wanna get, and this

571
00:18:34,075 --> 00:18:36,015
is fascinating because we know, at least,

572
00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:37,615
what we're told,

573
00:18:38,475 --> 00:18:39,535
all of the cameras

574
00:18:39,849 --> 00:18:41,849
were off or broken or whatever the narrative

575
00:18:41,849 --> 00:18:42,970
was. It's all it was all, you know,

576
00:18:42,970 --> 00:18:44,649
kind of mixed up. People were on break

577
00:18:44,649 --> 00:18:46,250
and whatever else. And I also wanna make

578
00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:48,569
sure we don't forget who was president when

579
00:18:48,569 --> 00:18:50,329
this was happening. Who was running the FBI

580
00:18:50,329 --> 00:18:52,089
when this is the Donald Trump administration two

581
00:18:52,089 --> 00:18:53,849
thousand nineteen? So it's interesting that if you're

582
00:18:53,849 --> 00:18:56,024
gonna start claiming that, you know, that he

583
00:18:56,024 --> 00:18:58,345
is somehow has access to something they that

584
00:18:58,345 --> 00:19:00,345
they was there, that they lied about then,

585
00:19:00,345 --> 00:19:02,585
there's no way you miss that and understand

586
00:19:02,585 --> 00:19:04,664
what administration was covering that up. And and,

587
00:19:04,664 --> 00:19:06,345
again, for those listening, it's I don't think

588
00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:08,313
there's difference in the partisan sides. It's just

589
00:19:08,313 --> 00:19:10,126
as Charlie's pointing out, some people seem to

590
00:19:10,126 --> 00:19:11,940
think that one side is about to save

591
00:19:11,940 --> 00:19:13,754
them. So here's that clip. Those two cases

592
00:19:13,754 --> 00:19:15,567
obviously are of significant public interest. I'm just

593
00:19:15,567 --> 00:19:17,381
telling you what we see in the file.

594
00:19:17,381 --> 00:19:19,421
I am I just wanna be crystal clear

595
00:19:19,421 --> 00:19:22,674
on this. I am not asking anyone to

596
00:19:22,674 --> 00:19:25,075
believe me. I'm telling you what's there and

597
00:19:25,075 --> 00:19:28,035
what isn't. Right. There is nothing in the

598
00:19:28,035 --> 00:19:30,755
file at this point on the Epstein case,

599
00:19:30,755 --> 00:19:32,755
and there's gonna be a disclosure on this

600
00:19:32,755 --> 00:19:35,700
coming shortly. We are working through some there

601
00:19:35,700 --> 00:19:36,599
is video.

602
00:19:37,059 --> 00:19:39,140
That is something the public There's a video

603
00:19:39,140 --> 00:19:41,140
of him killing himself. No. No. Not fit

604
00:19:41,299 --> 00:19:43,960
not the actual act, but the the entire,

605
00:19:45,059 --> 00:19:47,494
MCC Bay, it was only one camera. There

606
00:19:47,494 --> 00:19:50,294
were other there's video that when you look

607
00:19:50,294 --> 00:19:51,974
at the video, and we will release. That's

608
00:19:51,974 --> 00:19:53,734
what's taken a while on this. We are

609
00:19:53,734 --> 00:19:55,414
working on cleaning it up to make sure

610
00:19:55,414 --> 00:19:56,855
you have an enhanced I And we're gonna

611
00:19:56,855 --> 00:19:58,134
give the original so you don't think I

612
00:19:58,134 --> 00:19:59,414
thought those aren't words that make you feel

613
00:19:59,414 --> 00:20:01,015
good about come we're gonna clean it up

614
00:20:01,015 --> 00:20:02,930
for you. But the FBI is gonna clean

615
00:20:02,930 --> 00:20:04,710
it up, you say. Yeah. Yeah. Shenanigans.

616
00:20:05,730 --> 00:20:07,570
You're gonna see there's no one there but

617
00:20:07,570 --> 00:20:09,330
him. Right. There's just nobody there. So I

618
00:20:09,330 --> 00:20:10,769
say to people all the time, if you

619
00:20:10,769 --> 00:20:12,690
have a tip, let us know. But there's

620
00:20:12,690 --> 00:20:15,445
no DNA, There's no audio. There's no fingerprints.

621
00:20:15,505 --> 00:20:18,065
There's no suspects. There's no accomplices. There's no

622
00:20:18,065 --> 00:20:20,384
tips. There is nothing. If you have it,

623
00:20:20,384 --> 00:20:22,705
I'm happy to see it. There's video clear

624
00:20:22,705 --> 00:20:24,945
as day. He's the only person in there

625
00:20:24,945 --> 00:20:26,705
and the only person coming out. You can

626
00:20:26,705 --> 00:20:27,184
see it. So

627
00:20:28,639 --> 00:20:29,460
Your thoughts.

628
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,779
Well, he's lying.

629
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,139
He's he's just lying. He's a liar.

630
00:20:35,519 --> 00:20:37,279
That's what he does for a living. He

631
00:20:37,279 --> 00:20:38,419
defends narratives.

632
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,519
He goes out there. He's comfortable around those

633
00:20:41,519 --> 00:20:43,700
people. He used to work there. Mhmm.

634
00:20:44,404 --> 00:20:45,525
We need you to go out there and

635
00:20:45,525 --> 00:20:46,184
sell this

636
00:20:46,565 --> 00:20:48,505
story to the American people, Dan.

637
00:20:49,125 --> 00:20:50,005
You know? Well, it's it's just a it's

638
00:20:50,005 --> 00:20:50,505
a

639
00:20:50,884 --> 00:20:52,644
weird evolution of the story. Right? Like I

640
00:20:52,644 --> 00:20:54,565
said, if so if you somehow have video,

641
00:20:54,565 --> 00:20:55,845
how in the world has that not been

642
00:20:55,845 --> 00:20:58,679
released by now through multiple administrations, including president

643
00:20:58,679 --> 00:21:00,599
Trump's from the last time. Right? Or the

644
00:21:00,599 --> 00:21:02,679
idea that you clearly just said you don't

645
00:21:02,679 --> 00:21:04,700
have a video of the event.

646
00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,440
So how the how are we supposed to

647
00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:07,880
think that you like, if you show us

648
00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,200
this weird video that's of everything other the

649
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:11,794
moment than when he dies, how are we

650
00:21:11,794 --> 00:21:13,875
supposed to let that let it why would

651
00:21:13,875 --> 00:21:15,234
we think that that proves that he didn't

652
00:21:15,234 --> 00:21:16,755
kill himself if you have the one moment

653
00:21:16,755 --> 00:21:18,115
that we need in all that? You know?

654
00:21:18,115 --> 00:21:19,335
That seems like a weird,

655
00:21:19,794 --> 00:21:20,934
glaring red flag.

656
00:21:21,554 --> 00:21:24,054
If if Dan Bongino had you in a

657
00:21:24,194 --> 00:21:25,335
interrogation room

658
00:21:26,500 --> 00:21:28,980
and you changed your story like he just

659
00:21:28,980 --> 00:21:31,380
did Mhmm. Because the story was all the

660
00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:33,380
cameras are broken. There's no evidence of this.

661
00:21:33,380 --> 00:21:34,819
And then all of a sudden you say,

662
00:21:34,819 --> 00:21:35,799
well, actually,

663
00:21:37,299 --> 00:21:38,039
there was

664
00:21:39,015 --> 00:21:40,934
camera footage and then you go, well, why

665
00:21:40,934 --> 00:21:42,555
didn't you tell us this from the beginning?

666
00:21:42,695 --> 00:21:44,295
Sounds like you have something to hide. You

667
00:21:44,295 --> 00:21:45,735
know, if you were the one that that

668
00:21:45,735 --> 00:21:48,634
was doing this Right. Halfway through, you know,

669
00:21:48,695 --> 00:21:50,455
your story changed and it it then they

670
00:21:50,455 --> 00:21:52,455
would say, oh, we've got a huge problem

671
00:21:52,455 --> 00:21:54,059
here here because you just told one set

672
00:21:54,059 --> 00:21:54,880
of of

673
00:21:55,660 --> 00:21:57,359
facts, air quotes, facts,

674
00:21:57,660 --> 00:21:59,660
back in 2019, and now you've got a

675
00:21:59,660 --> 00:22:02,400
different set of them. So somebody's lying here.

676
00:22:02,539 --> 00:22:04,059
Who was it? And you said, no. No.

677
00:22:04,059 --> 00:22:05,119
It's just a misunderstanding.

678
00:22:05,740 --> 00:22:07,404
You don't understand. Well,

679
00:22:07,704 --> 00:22:10,105
explain it to me then. This this guy

680
00:22:10,105 --> 00:22:10,924
is a cop.

681
00:22:11,464 --> 00:22:14,105
He understands that you change your story midway

682
00:22:14,105 --> 00:22:16,904
through, you're hiding something. Right. And to your

683
00:22:16,904 --> 00:22:18,424
point, just wait. What just popped in my

684
00:22:18,424 --> 00:22:20,105
mind when you said that is is even

685
00:22:20,105 --> 00:22:21,940
recently though. Right? So why didn't this get

686
00:22:21,940 --> 00:22:23,779
brought up in the beginning? Are you telling

687
00:22:23,779 --> 00:22:25,460
us that this one video that had the

688
00:22:25,460 --> 00:22:27,860
main thing was you're only just finding out

689
00:22:27,860 --> 00:22:29,140
that it was there? You know what I

690
00:22:29,140 --> 00:22:30,740
mean? Like, there's nothing about this that lines

691
00:22:30,740 --> 00:22:32,900
up in any logical way. But, you know,

692
00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:34,660
like, that's we it's we'll have to wait

693
00:22:34,660 --> 00:22:36,585
and see when this video comes out if

694
00:22:36,585 --> 00:22:38,426
it ever does. Well, there's the first thing

695
00:22:38,426 --> 00:22:40,267
right there. Do you think that's ever gonna

696
00:22:40,267 --> 00:22:42,107
happen? It would not surprise me in the

697
00:22:42,107 --> 00:22:43,948
least if it just literally never came out.

698
00:22:43,948 --> 00:22:45,789
That's how things seem to go today. What

699
00:22:45,789 --> 00:22:47,880
do you think? I wouldn't be surprised. There

700
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:50,200
will there will be a a ton of

701
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,680
people reminding them about this. And if it

702
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:54,440
comes out, my guess is that it'll be

703
00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,080
completely doctored. I agree. What what was the

704
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,019
the term he used? Cleaned up.

705
00:22:59,799 --> 00:23:01,704
Cleaned up. It'll be cleaned up a little

706
00:23:01,704 --> 00:23:03,244
bit. You know? What does that even mean?

707
00:23:03,304 --> 00:23:05,625
We we can't you can't shoot the the

708
00:23:05,625 --> 00:23:09,065
footage with, like, a Bigfoot resolution camera, like

709
00:23:09,065 --> 00:23:10,904
a one megapixel. We gotta clean it up.

710
00:23:10,904 --> 00:23:12,585
We gotta, you know, sharpen it, make it

711
00:23:12,585 --> 00:23:14,105
look nice and pretty for you. Another word

712
00:23:14,105 --> 00:23:15,164
for that is edit.

713
00:23:16,660 --> 00:23:17,160
Edit.

714
00:23:18,100 --> 00:23:20,180
Cleaned up. Yeah. So the the thing that

715
00:23:20,180 --> 00:23:21,779
goes to my mind is the deepfake point.

716
00:23:21,779 --> 00:23:23,380
Like, we've talked about this in the past.

717
00:23:23,380 --> 00:23:24,980
Like, I've been saying this for the longest

718
00:23:24,980 --> 00:23:26,980
time. Like, when is like, obviously, we all

719
00:23:26,980 --> 00:23:28,820
know deepfakes are there. It it becomes this

720
00:23:28,820 --> 00:23:31,525
weird kind of comical, you know, Obama fake

721
00:23:31,525 --> 00:23:33,205
video on a show one day, and then,

722
00:23:33,205 --> 00:23:34,325
like, just gets dropped. You know, it's like

723
00:23:34,325 --> 00:23:35,845
this I I I'm of the mind that

724
00:23:35,845 --> 00:23:38,164
is probably radically affecting things and has been

725
00:23:38,164 --> 00:23:39,845
for a long time and, like, archives, and

726
00:23:39,845 --> 00:23:41,445
we don't even know what's happening. Right? Like,

727
00:23:41,445 --> 00:23:43,144
the to a level we don't even understand.

728
00:23:43,429 --> 00:23:44,710
And so I've been waiting for, like, the

729
00:23:44,710 --> 00:23:46,630
actual shoe to drop. Like, the big the

730
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:48,630
case we're all supposed to see. Right? And

731
00:23:48,630 --> 00:23:50,390
I've always wondered whether it was gonna be

732
00:23:50,390 --> 00:23:52,230
somebody being accused of something they actually didn't

733
00:23:52,230 --> 00:23:53,750
do, and they claim it's a deepfake, but

734
00:23:53,750 --> 00:23:55,484
they say they're guilty or vice versa where

735
00:23:55,565 --> 00:23:57,644
they are guilty, but, you know, Trump's like,

736
00:23:57,644 --> 00:23:59,005
it was a deepfake. I wasn't me. And

737
00:23:59,005 --> 00:24:00,684
then all of his audience goes along with

738
00:24:00,684 --> 00:24:02,285
that. And so I'm that's what I think

739
00:24:02,285 --> 00:24:03,644
this might be. It feels like it has

740
00:24:03,644 --> 00:24:05,244
those kind of remnants to it to where

741
00:24:05,244 --> 00:24:07,424
it comes out or not remnants, but, markings,

742
00:24:07,644 --> 00:24:09,799
to where it comes out as the Epstein

743
00:24:10,100 --> 00:24:11,860
video, which not of the event apparently, but

744
00:24:11,860 --> 00:24:13,539
it shows him, I guess, being alone is

745
00:24:13,539 --> 00:24:15,220
his point. And then you wonder whether that

746
00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:16,740
is simply altered, like you said. We'll be

747
00:24:16,740 --> 00:24:18,660
checking that. But has that become kind of

748
00:24:18,660 --> 00:24:21,140
the conversation starter for that very point? I

749
00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:22,900
don't know. It's interesting. But or or as

750
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:24,340
somebody pointed out in the chat on top

751
00:24:24,340 --> 00:24:25,914
of that, well, a lot of us are

752
00:24:25,914 --> 00:24:27,355
arguing we have been from the beginning. What

753
00:24:27,355 --> 00:24:28,634
if he wasn't dead in the first place?

754
00:24:28,634 --> 00:24:30,234
What if he was shuttled away somewhere because

755
00:24:30,234 --> 00:24:31,674
he has too much information or, you know,

756
00:24:31,674 --> 00:24:33,355
whatever, which doesn't seem likely. Why wouldn't they

757
00:24:33,355 --> 00:24:35,195
just kill him? But if he's still alive,

758
00:24:35,195 --> 00:24:36,634
wouldn't that add a whole other layer to

759
00:24:36,634 --> 00:24:37,455
whether they could

760
00:24:37,789 --> 00:24:39,950
manufacture a new video? You know? Interesting thought.

761
00:24:39,950 --> 00:24:41,250
Somebody shared that in the chat.

762
00:24:41,869 --> 00:24:43,630
I'd I I'll tell you what. If I

763
00:24:43,630 --> 00:24:44,130
were

764
00:24:45,150 --> 00:24:46,349
if I were I'm not trying to give

765
00:24:46,349 --> 00:24:48,429
these lunatics any ideas, but if if I

766
00:24:48,429 --> 00:24:49,490
were the Trump administration,

767
00:24:50,190 --> 00:24:51,569
I would save that

768
00:24:52,154 --> 00:24:53,375
that deep fake

769
00:24:53,674 --> 00:24:56,494
excuse for a much bigger scandal. This

770
00:24:57,035 --> 00:25:00,154
is six years ago. We've already litigated it.

771
00:25:00,154 --> 00:25:02,315
The common you know, everyone has a thought

772
00:25:02,315 --> 00:25:04,634
on it. There's nothing new. I would wait

773
00:25:04,634 --> 00:25:06,575
for something else that came up,

774
00:25:06,919 --> 00:25:09,419
and, of course, there will be. And then,

775
00:25:10,039 --> 00:25:12,039
you know, if he's let's just say he's

776
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,880
Trump is doing something he shouldn't be doing,

777
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,400
and then it comes up and and then

778
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,559
he wants to hide behind the deep fake.

779
00:25:17,559 --> 00:25:19,079
Oh, that was not me as a deep

780
00:25:19,079 --> 00:25:21,075
fake. I do that with something else. This

781
00:25:21,075 --> 00:25:23,234
seems like Yep. No sense in diffusing the

782
00:25:23,234 --> 00:25:25,555
Jeffrey Epstein bomb after it's already gone off

783
00:25:25,555 --> 00:25:26,994
six years ago. You know what I mean?

784
00:25:26,994 --> 00:25:28,275
It seems like a a waste to do

785
00:25:28,275 --> 00:25:29,795
that. But we all know that I mean,

786
00:25:29,795 --> 00:25:32,115
when the video comes out, it's not if

787
00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:32,880
it comes out,

788
00:25:33,279 --> 00:25:35,759
it's not gonna set anybody's minds at ease.

789
00:25:35,759 --> 00:25:37,920
You're everyone's gonna have the exact same thought.

790
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:39,059
This is probably fake.

791
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:42,559
I mean, be because it's coming from the

792
00:25:42,559 --> 00:25:43,059
FBI

793
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,940
who has a long and storied track record

794
00:25:46,634 --> 00:25:47,295
of pathologically

795
00:25:47,755 --> 00:25:49,535
lying about the things that they're doing.

796
00:25:49,835 --> 00:25:51,515
So it's one of those things where you

797
00:25:51,674 --> 00:25:53,994
it it also the with the deep fake

798
00:25:53,994 --> 00:25:54,494
technology,

799
00:25:55,835 --> 00:25:58,715
the the excuse of is gonna also kind

800
00:25:58,715 --> 00:26:01,339
of take into account the credibility of the

801
00:26:01,339 --> 00:26:03,919
person who's who it's being turned against too.

802
00:26:03,980 --> 00:26:04,799
If you have

803
00:26:05,259 --> 00:26:07,259
a long track record of lying, like the

804
00:26:07,259 --> 00:26:09,179
FBI, and then they cut you put a

805
00:26:09,179 --> 00:26:11,019
video out or or something comes out and

806
00:26:11,019 --> 00:26:13,259
someone says, oh, it's deep fake, and they

807
00:26:13,259 --> 00:26:14,684
say, no, it's not. You know, we're the

808
00:26:14,684 --> 00:26:16,605
FBI. We wouldn't lie about that. The answer

809
00:26:16,605 --> 00:26:19,265
is, yeah, you would. You lie about everything.

810
00:26:19,565 --> 00:26:21,484
You you would you would most definitely lie

811
00:26:21,484 --> 00:26:23,664
about it. But if you're somebody who

812
00:26:24,765 --> 00:26:26,924
doesn't have a repute let's just some movie

813
00:26:26,924 --> 00:26:28,605
star comes out, gets busted, and they say,

814
00:26:28,605 --> 00:26:30,180
well, I was raped by this movie star,

815
00:26:30,259 --> 00:26:32,180
and here's the footage from the security. And

816
00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:32,840
the person

817
00:26:33,220 --> 00:26:33,720
genuinely

818
00:26:34,180 --> 00:26:36,259
has never been in trouble for anything, and

819
00:26:36,259 --> 00:26:37,860
they come out and say, I think this

820
00:26:37,860 --> 00:26:39,619
was a deep fake video. I wasn't there.

821
00:26:39,619 --> 00:26:42,180
I didn't do it. That we have a

822
00:26:42,180 --> 00:26:44,259
a possibility of saying, well, maybe. Let's talk

823
00:26:44,259 --> 00:26:46,005
about this. Maybe he wasn't there. Let's have

824
00:26:46,005 --> 00:26:46,744
the conversation.

825
00:26:47,605 --> 00:26:50,265
The Trump administration, Trump's got a long reputation

826
00:26:50,325 --> 00:26:51,305
of being a liar.

827
00:26:51,845 --> 00:26:54,485
The FBI, same with them. They're the wrong

828
00:26:54,485 --> 00:26:56,805
people to to start the, oh, I can't

829
00:26:56,805 --> 00:26:58,644
believe that you would use a deep fake

830
00:26:58,644 --> 00:27:00,579
against me, you know, sort of crowd. They

831
00:27:00,579 --> 00:27:02,819
they they are they're the last people to

832
00:27:02,819 --> 00:27:04,819
be in a position to to claim that

833
00:27:04,819 --> 00:27:07,139
something is fake when they've been lying their

834
00:27:07,139 --> 00:27:09,399
entire lives about just about everything. So

835
00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:10,419
I think that,

836
00:27:11,059 --> 00:27:13,154
we are in a post truth world. These

837
00:27:13,154 --> 00:27:15,815
videos are going to be increasingly more difficult

838
00:27:16,355 --> 00:27:16,835
to,

839
00:27:18,434 --> 00:27:21,554
to differentiate real from fake. And my guess

840
00:27:21,554 --> 00:27:23,554
is that in some of the cases, they'll

841
00:27:23,554 --> 00:27:26,759
they'll they'll they'll use it as bait to

842
00:27:26,759 --> 00:27:29,000
get people saying, you know, they'll maybe I

843
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,380
could envision the Israelis

844
00:27:30,759 --> 00:27:32,920
doing something where there's a video of, you

845
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,519
know, one of like, a drone bombing, like

846
00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:36,759
you've just seen recently with the Ukrainian drone

847
00:27:36,759 --> 00:27:39,315
that hovers next to that Russian guy. His

848
00:27:39,315 --> 00:27:41,154
head who's sitting down and then it blows

849
00:27:41,154 --> 00:27:43,234
up and everything. I could envision a scenario

850
00:27:43,234 --> 00:27:45,554
where Israel puts out a fake video like

851
00:27:45,554 --> 00:27:46,914
that, and then they go, this was a

852
00:27:46,914 --> 00:27:48,835
deep fake. See, here's the proof. You guys

853
00:27:48,914 --> 00:27:50,274
it was all fake. Do you try to

854
00:27:50,274 --> 00:27:51,875
make us look bad? And then they say,

855
00:27:51,875 --> 00:27:53,634
all those videos that you see of Israel

856
00:27:53,634 --> 00:27:55,950
are all deep fakes. Right? They're all deep.

857
00:27:55,950 --> 00:27:57,710
If one is, then all of them could

858
00:27:57,710 --> 00:27:59,549
be. And so I could see them using

859
00:27:59,549 --> 00:28:01,490
that as a tactic to try and discredit

860
00:28:01,549 --> 00:28:03,789
things moving forward. But, as far as the

861
00:28:03,789 --> 00:28:04,289
Epstein

862
00:28:04,750 --> 00:28:05,549
case goes,

863
00:28:06,109 --> 00:28:08,484
you know, the FBI would have an easier

864
00:28:08,484 --> 00:28:10,565
time of getting the general public to believe

865
00:28:10,565 --> 00:28:12,325
them if they didn't have a storied history

866
00:28:12,325 --> 00:28:13,845
of lying to the public every time they

867
00:28:13,845 --> 00:28:15,684
get a chance to. So I mean, even

868
00:28:15,684 --> 00:28:17,365
the New York Times, for for take it

869
00:28:17,365 --> 00:28:18,724
for what you will, wrote a while back

870
00:28:18,724 --> 00:28:20,484
about how the vast majority of the cases

871
00:28:20,484 --> 00:28:21,765
they break down that they have a hand

872
00:28:21,765 --> 00:28:23,980
in starting themselves. Right? That was New York

873
00:28:23,980 --> 00:28:25,980
Times. The Intercept has done great work around

874
00:28:25,980 --> 00:28:27,819
that. There's a it's as you said, it's

875
00:28:27,819 --> 00:28:28,559
very documented

876
00:28:28,940 --> 00:28:30,779
that whether it's they, you know, end up

877
00:28:30,779 --> 00:28:32,399
arming, funding, nudging

878
00:28:32,700 --> 00:28:34,220
the guy they say is a terrorist and

879
00:28:34,220 --> 00:28:36,095
doing a thing, or he ends up being

880
00:28:36,095 --> 00:28:37,375
nudged to the point and then doesn't do

881
00:28:37,375 --> 00:28:38,654
it at the last moment, they still arrest

882
00:28:38,654 --> 00:28:40,335
him anyway. Like, there's so many of those

883
00:28:40,335 --> 00:28:42,174
cases over and over, and it's like the

884
00:28:42,174 --> 00:28:43,934
question becomes, like, well, would they have done

885
00:28:43,934 --> 00:28:45,134
any of that if you didn't force them

886
00:28:45,134 --> 00:28:46,734
or pressure them into it? You know, there's

887
00:28:46,734 --> 00:28:48,494
a a case like actually, the Free Thought

888
00:28:48,494 --> 00:28:50,494
Project cover that I report that I posted

889
00:28:50,494 --> 00:28:51,750
back in the day when they were,

890
00:28:52,390 --> 00:28:54,390
talking about it was a case of a

891
00:28:54,390 --> 00:28:54,869
mentally,

892
00:28:55,589 --> 00:28:57,910
handicapped kid. It was, like, a 17, 16

893
00:28:57,910 --> 00:28:59,210
year old kid who

894
00:28:59,829 --> 00:29:02,150
they basically tried to commit tried to manipulate

895
00:29:02,150 --> 00:29:03,670
into being a right wing terrorist. And that

896
00:29:03,750 --> 00:29:05,349
it's it's documented. They caught it in the

897
00:29:05,349 --> 00:29:06,734
act, and we've talked about this possibly, I

898
00:29:06,734 --> 00:29:08,894
think. And he he was, the parents caught

899
00:29:08,894 --> 00:29:10,335
it. They so it didn't happen, but the

900
00:29:10,335 --> 00:29:12,255
parents exposed it. I mean, the documents are

901
00:29:12,255 --> 00:29:13,615
all very clear. And it's like, you know,

902
00:29:13,615 --> 00:29:15,055
the idea is that you're taking advantage of

903
00:29:15,055 --> 00:29:16,815
some kid who just wants a friend, who's

904
00:29:16,815 --> 00:29:18,255
willing to go, yeah. I'll do whatever you

905
00:29:18,255 --> 00:29:19,454
say that. What as long as you keep

906
00:29:19,454 --> 00:29:20,690
calling me on the phone. You know? Like,

907
00:29:20,690 --> 00:29:22,289
that's the thing. People they take advantage of,

908
00:29:22,289 --> 00:29:24,369
and that happens all over the place. So

909
00:29:24,369 --> 00:29:25,410
I'm with you, man. I don't think we

910
00:29:25,410 --> 00:29:26,929
should trust a word they're saying. But I

911
00:29:26,929 --> 00:29:29,509
think the Israel influence on the Epstein story

912
00:29:29,809 --> 00:29:32,210
and just obviously the influence on this country

913
00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:34,494
right now makes you wonder whether there's another

914
00:29:34,494 --> 00:29:36,095
interest at play other than what's best for

915
00:29:36,095 --> 00:29:38,095
Donald Trump's administration or even The US Government.

916
00:29:38,095 --> 00:29:39,615
Yeah. I always wanna point that out because

917
00:29:39,615 --> 00:29:41,214
sometimes these things, you just it's anomalous. Like,

918
00:29:41,214 --> 00:29:42,494
you just go, how does that make sense?

919
00:29:42,494 --> 00:29:43,934
Like, there's no interest, but there is if

920
00:29:43,934 --> 00:29:45,535
you understand that it's, like, to the detriment

921
00:29:45,535 --> 00:29:47,349
of this country. Like, to literally bring this

922
00:29:47,349 --> 00:29:48,549
country down to its knees, and I do

923
00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:49,829
think there's a part of that happening right

924
00:29:49,829 --> 00:29:51,369
now. I think that's worth pointing out.

925
00:29:51,910 --> 00:29:53,829
Yeah. And I've and I've I've described from,

926
00:29:53,829 --> 00:29:54,569
like, an

927
00:29:54,869 --> 00:29:57,109
astronomy perspective when they say, how do we

928
00:29:57,109 --> 00:29:59,029
discover black holes if you can't see them?

929
00:29:59,029 --> 00:30:00,549
You said, well, what you you're you're not

930
00:30:00,549 --> 00:30:02,474
looking for the black hole. What you're doing

931
00:30:02,474 --> 00:30:04,795
is you're looking for stars that have that

932
00:30:04,795 --> 00:30:07,275
there's an unusual effect on a star. A

933
00:30:07,275 --> 00:30:09,515
star is doing something that it normally doesn't

934
00:30:09,515 --> 00:30:11,115
do and then you have to deduct that

935
00:30:11,115 --> 00:30:12,575
there's an unseen

936
00:30:12,954 --> 00:30:13,454
influence

937
00:30:13,835 --> 00:30:16,210
acting upon that star to make it do

938
00:30:16,210 --> 00:30:18,630
something that it doesn't normally do. Therefore, we've

939
00:30:18,769 --> 00:30:21,250
conducted we've decided that there must be a

940
00:30:21,250 --> 00:30:22,549
black hole somewhere nearby.

941
00:30:22,849 --> 00:30:24,390
Israel is the black hole.

942
00:30:25,169 --> 00:30:25,809
Yeah. They're in

943
00:30:27,304 --> 00:30:27,804
yeah.

944
00:30:28,184 --> 00:30:30,525
Their influence on people they are unseen

945
00:30:30,904 --> 00:30:32,904
in a lot of these cases, but you

946
00:30:32,904 --> 00:30:35,484
you know they're there based on the influence

947
00:30:35,544 --> 00:30:38,744
they exert on people that are visible. So

948
00:30:38,744 --> 00:30:41,000
somebody like Bongino, you go, why would you

949
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,519
ever go in front of those cameras and

950
00:30:42,519 --> 00:30:44,599
say that the Epstein stuff was was all

951
00:30:44,599 --> 00:30:46,200
true and then there's nothing there? And you

952
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:47,579
go, it must be

953
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,980
something we know you know it's not true,

954
00:30:52,039 --> 00:30:52,539
Dan.

955
00:30:53,144 --> 00:30:55,625
So how are you being made to say

956
00:30:55,625 --> 00:30:57,945
it? Well, there must be an undue influence.

957
00:30:57,945 --> 00:31:00,025
There must be a black hole nearby that's

958
00:31:00,025 --> 00:31:02,105
pulling on you and forcing you to do

959
00:31:02,105 --> 00:31:03,244
that. And I would assume,

960
00:31:04,184 --> 00:31:07,224
considering Jeffrey Epstein's ties to Israel among other

961
00:31:07,224 --> 00:31:09,210
places, I would assume that the black hole

962
00:31:09,210 --> 00:31:11,450
in this situation is most definitely Israel. So,

963
00:31:11,450 --> 00:31:13,769
I mean, I don't know how how you

964
00:31:13,769 --> 00:31:14,269
could,

965
00:31:15,369 --> 00:31:16,650
I mean, I don't know who else would

966
00:31:16,650 --> 00:31:18,490
be responsible for it. I don't know who

967
00:31:18,490 --> 00:31:20,750
else has more to to lose. It's not

968
00:31:22,315 --> 00:31:23,595
it it it would have to be an

969
00:31:23,595 --> 00:31:26,315
outside. It it'd be Israel. Mhmm. Well, I

970
00:31:26,315 --> 00:31:28,715
mean, I think Saudi Arabia. Yeah. You know

971
00:31:28,715 --> 00:31:30,475
what I mean? It's not they're not doing

972
00:31:30,475 --> 00:31:32,555
it. It's that's a really great analogy, by

973
00:31:32,555 --> 00:31:33,914
the way. And I think the point regardless

974
00:31:33,995 --> 00:31:35,639
I'm I completely agree with you. But just

975
00:31:35,639 --> 00:31:37,480
be objective. The point regardless is just take

976
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:39,480
note that there is something. There's an anomaly

977
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,399
taking place here that is driving people to

978
00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:43,480
act outside their interests. I I I Catherine's

979
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,639
talked about that. And, of course, terrifyingly, she

980
00:31:45,639 --> 00:31:47,804
overlaps that with the possibility or she thinks

981
00:31:47,804 --> 00:31:49,565
very clearly that it is happening of, like,

982
00:31:49,565 --> 00:31:50,065
neuroscience,

983
00:31:50,764 --> 00:31:53,005
like, through technology, like, making you act against

984
00:31:53,005 --> 00:31:54,764
your own interest, which is a terrifying thought.

985
00:31:54,764 --> 00:31:55,884
I don't even know how to begin to

986
00:31:55,884 --> 00:31:57,484
tackle because how do you fight something like

987
00:31:57,484 --> 00:31:59,565
that? But that there that's where we're the

988
00:31:59,565 --> 00:32:01,565
point the same is take note of people

989
00:32:01,565 --> 00:32:03,730
that stand out and then, you know, don't

990
00:32:03,730 --> 00:32:05,009
try to box it into the way we

991
00:32:05,009 --> 00:32:07,570
see the world. Think about outside possibilities. Now

992
00:32:07,570 --> 00:32:10,049
January 6 is an interesting overlap to all

993
00:32:10,049 --> 00:32:12,450
of that because it's a really interesting kind

994
00:32:12,450 --> 00:32:15,009
of convergence of events that started kinda before

995
00:32:15,634 --> 00:32:17,634
you know, let's just say building up to

996
00:32:17,634 --> 00:32:18,994
a lot of the larger things happening right

997
00:32:18,994 --> 00:32:20,835
now. And let's not you know, if we're

998
00:32:20,835 --> 00:32:23,414
being honest about this and just acknowledging blatantly

999
00:32:23,555 --> 00:32:26,215
proven evidence, we know that there were multiple

1000
00:32:26,515 --> 00:32:28,375
examples of authority, FBI,

1001
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:30,759
even military intelligence that were there. Right? And

1002
00:32:30,759 --> 00:32:32,440
so this was documented in the beginning of

1003
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,019
this conversation, well past kind of this weird,

1004
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,080
like, revelation now where they go, we're about

1005
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:38,440
to prove that there were FBI there. It's

1006
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,360
like, well, that's does anybody I mean, they

1007
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,880
said that in public in congress by now.

1008
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,454
Jimmy Doar points that all the time. Right?

1009
00:32:43,534 --> 00:32:45,134
So it's it's that was one part of

1010
00:32:45,134 --> 00:32:46,575
it. Then we have the aspect of, like,

1011
00:32:46,575 --> 00:32:47,315
the Antifa.

1012
00:32:47,694 --> 00:32:49,054
You know, we're there. We got them to

1013
00:32:49,054 --> 00:32:50,654
do these things. That's on video. We have

1014
00:32:50,654 --> 00:32:53,375
the Ukrainian influence, the Azov movement. We've got,

1015
00:32:53,375 --> 00:32:55,634
what's his name, Sergey Beninin who's or Benin,

1016
00:32:55,789 --> 00:32:57,950
who's on video screaming things in Russian saying,

1017
00:32:57,950 --> 00:32:59,069
let's go. And then, you know, the and

1018
00:32:59,069 --> 00:33:00,750
then proving that he's tied to a Ukrainian

1019
00:33:00,750 --> 00:33:02,429
entity that is bonded by Israel and the

1020
00:33:02,429 --> 00:33:04,429
CIA. Like, these things matter. You know? There's

1021
00:33:04,429 --> 00:33:06,669
a worldwide thing that was happening there. Now

1022
00:33:06,669 --> 00:33:09,025
with what we've seen, it's hard not to

1023
00:33:09,025 --> 00:33:11,105
think about consider the possibility that that was

1024
00:33:11,105 --> 00:33:12,464
at least maybe that was an attempt to

1025
00:33:12,464 --> 00:33:13,984
do what they're beginning to do now, and

1026
00:33:13,984 --> 00:33:15,505
it didn't it failed, or maybe it was

1027
00:33:15,505 --> 00:33:16,404
a de destabilization

1028
00:33:16,705 --> 00:33:18,705
effort. Maybe it was about more censorship. But

1029
00:33:18,705 --> 00:33:20,545
let's go back to the the clip from

1030
00:33:20,545 --> 00:33:21,990
Cash and listen to what he has to

1031
00:33:21,990 --> 00:33:23,670
say about January 6, then we could talk

1032
00:33:23,670 --> 00:33:24,809
about more of those points.

1033
00:33:25,269 --> 00:33:25,769
Importantly,

1034
00:33:27,029 --> 00:33:29,750
people had questions about January 6 and whether

1035
00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:32,390
or not there were FBI sources, not agents,

1036
00:33:32,390 --> 00:33:32,890
sources

1037
00:33:33,269 --> 00:33:35,464
on the ground during January 6. And I

1038
00:33:35,464 --> 00:33:37,085
told you I would get you the definitive

1039
00:33:37,224 --> 00:33:39,545
answer to that, and we have. And we

1040
00:33:39,545 --> 00:33:41,305
are in the process again of working with

1041
00:33:41,305 --> 00:33:43,865
our partners to divulge that information, and it

1042
00:33:43,865 --> 00:33:45,545
is coming. And I will tell you this.

1043
00:33:45,545 --> 00:33:46,205
You have.

1044
00:33:46,664 --> 00:33:49,384
The answer to that question will surprise and

1045
00:33:49,384 --> 00:33:52,320
shock people because of what To me, like

1046
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:53,839
with Donald Trump going, which by the way,

1047
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:55,599
I don't think we ever really identified what

1048
00:33:55,599 --> 00:33:56,960
the big announcement was. We all have different

1049
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,559
opinions about it, which suggests it wasn't really

1050
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:00,160
a big announcement. That he's like, this is

1051
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,640
gonna be the bombshell world changing announcement that

1052
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:03,759
comes in the next couple of days. And

1053
00:34:03,759 --> 00:34:05,119
then everyone's like, well, which one was it?

1054
00:34:05,119 --> 00:34:06,384
You know? It's like, I think it's about

1055
00:34:06,384 --> 00:34:08,465
telling you how you're supposed to respond. That's

1056
00:34:08,465 --> 00:34:09,905
what I get like like this. And why

1057
00:34:09,905 --> 00:34:11,585
wouldn't you just go, well, there were agents

1058
00:34:11,585 --> 00:34:14,065
there. We're gonna tell you soon whether or

1059
00:34:14,065 --> 00:34:15,505
not. You know what I mean? It seems

1060
00:34:15,505 --> 00:34:17,264
very contrived to me. Any comment before I

1061
00:34:17,264 --> 00:34:17,925
keep playing?

1062
00:34:18,819 --> 00:34:20,659
Well, I was pretty sure Trump Trump's big

1063
00:34:20,659 --> 00:34:22,500
announcement was gonna be that he was bringing

1064
00:34:22,500 --> 00:34:23,719
the McRib back.

1065
00:34:24,339 --> 00:34:26,359
Yeah. Probably what it really was.

1066
00:34:26,980 --> 00:34:27,480
Yeah.

1067
00:34:27,780 --> 00:34:30,679
Something something that they're gonna run. About. Yeah.

1068
00:34:30,864 --> 00:34:33,505
Okay. Former FBI director Chris Wray eventually admitted

1069
00:34:33,505 --> 00:34:35,445
to congress there were 26 FBI

1070
00:34:35,825 --> 00:34:38,625
confidential human sources Not in around the Capitol

1071
00:34:38,864 --> 00:34:41,204
Mhmm. January 6, but not actual agents.

1072
00:34:41,744 --> 00:34:42,405
Can you

1073
00:34:43,265 --> 00:34:46,325
say that's true? Are there more than that?

1074
00:34:46,730 --> 00:34:48,809
What what you're learning from that? I can

1075
00:34:48,809 --> 00:34:50,889
say that that is definitely a piece of

1076
00:34:50,889 --> 00:34:51,549
the truth.

1077
00:34:52,170 --> 00:34:53,309
Why it took

1078
00:34:55,369 --> 00:34:56,809
a a ton of time for,

1079
00:34:57,210 --> 00:34:58,670
and questioning in congress

1080
00:34:59,105 --> 00:35:01,264
for the director to get that point is

1081
00:35:01,264 --> 00:35:03,505
what I'm trying to eliminate from the FBI.

1082
00:35:03,505 --> 00:35:05,525
If Congress asks you a question under oath,

1083
00:35:05,585 --> 00:35:06,964
whether or not there were sources

1084
00:35:07,424 --> 00:35:09,664
in around January 6 at the Capitol, you

1085
00:35:09,664 --> 00:35:11,184
as the director of the FBI need to

1086
00:35:11,184 --> 00:35:12,940
know that and not deflect

1087
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,400
and give a DC answer. You have You

1088
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,559
mean, like, literally every member of your current

1089
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,380
administration that will not answer any question regarding

1090
00:35:20,519 --> 00:35:22,599
habeas corpus or constitutional rights? And I don't

1091
00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:23,880
know if you've seen some of those clips.

1092
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:24,779
They're just infuriating.

1093
00:35:25,265 --> 00:35:26,545
And it's not new to it's not part

1094
00:35:26,625 --> 00:35:28,465
I mean, and it's just partisan. Either side

1095
00:35:28,465 --> 00:35:30,385
in front of congress just never seem to

1096
00:35:30,385 --> 00:35:32,724
answer any questions. They just kinda grandstand forever.

1097
00:35:32,785 --> 00:35:34,864
Such it's always the other in these conversations.

1098
00:35:34,864 --> 00:35:36,704
You know? To be prepared I love that

1099
00:35:36,704 --> 00:35:38,005
he criticizes answer.

1100
00:35:38,305 --> 00:35:41,309
Yeah. But he criticizes, given a DC answer

1101
00:35:41,309 --> 00:35:42,989
while he's in the process of giving a

1102
00:35:42,989 --> 00:35:43,969
DC answer.

1103
00:35:44,589 --> 00:35:47,069
Exactly. Well said. Forgiving. That's the answer Chris

1104
00:35:47,069 --> 00:35:49,549
Ray should have given. And, eventually, everybody's gonna

1105
00:35:49,549 --> 00:35:50,049
know

1106
00:35:50,349 --> 00:35:52,670
the whole picture. Yeah. Because the American people

1107
00:35:52,670 --> 00:35:55,244
deserve that. And and look, no one's more

1108
00:35:55,244 --> 00:35:56,764
frustrated than me. Remember, I was chief of

1109
00:35:56,764 --> 00:35:58,804
staff at the Department of Defense on January

1110
00:35:58,804 --> 00:35:59,984
6. We said

1111
00:36:00,444 --> 00:36:02,605
that we were ready, and the president had

1112
00:36:02,605 --> 00:36:03,744
previously authorized

1113
00:36:04,125 --> 00:36:06,125
the National Guard to be there days in

1114
00:36:06,125 --> 00:36:09,264
advance. I spent two years, a small fortune,

1115
00:36:09,699 --> 00:36:10,519
grand juries

1116
00:36:10,820 --> 00:36:13,300
to testify to the truth. And what happens

1117
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:15,619
now years later, we were right. Bowser and

1118
00:36:15,619 --> 00:36:17,239
Pelosi rejected that offer.

1119
00:36:17,860 --> 00:36:18,679
And instead

1120
00:36:19,059 --> 00:36:21,860
of figuring out how to prevent security lapses

1121
00:36:21,860 --> 00:36:24,594
like that ever again, the American public spent

1122
00:36:24,594 --> 00:36:26,755
tens of millions of dollars and countless hours

1123
00:36:26,755 --> 00:36:27,414
on TV

1124
00:36:27,715 --> 00:36:29,335
listening to conspiracy theories

1125
00:36:29,715 --> 00:36:31,974
because those in positions of leadership

1126
00:36:32,275 --> 00:36:34,375
failed to tell the American public the truth.

1127
00:36:34,675 --> 00:36:36,355
So now in the conspiracy theory, I mean,

1128
00:36:36,355 --> 00:36:37,875
is this just the new mainstream? You know

1129
00:36:37,875 --> 00:36:39,155
what I mean? Like, you're just taking the

1130
00:36:39,155 --> 00:36:41,130
other side. Like, the the the point for

1131
00:36:41,130 --> 00:36:42,489
people like us is always that, you know,

1132
00:36:42,489 --> 00:36:44,589
there's it wasn't by it was it was

1133
00:36:45,210 --> 00:36:46,569
the government. You know what I mean? Like,

1134
00:36:46,569 --> 00:36:48,170
with Pelosi and the overlap, I mean, the

1135
00:36:48,170 --> 00:36:50,030
idea that this was something that was one-sided

1136
00:36:50,250 --> 00:36:51,929
is just kind of insane to argue today.

1137
00:36:51,929 --> 00:36:53,050
But, you know, what what are your thoughts

1138
00:36:53,050 --> 00:36:53,949
on what he said?

1139
00:36:56,465 --> 00:36:59,204
It's I'm I'm embarrassed on his behalf

1140
00:36:59,905 --> 00:37:01,905
that he's standing up there lying like that

1141
00:37:01,905 --> 00:37:03,285
so brazenly. I mean,

1142
00:37:05,585 --> 00:37:06,704
we're never going to get the

1143
00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:09,269
we're not gonna get the truth from the

1144
00:37:09,269 --> 00:37:11,750
FBI about what was going on January 6

1145
00:37:11,750 --> 00:37:14,070
because they were involved in the operation. They're

1146
00:37:14,070 --> 00:37:15,530
not going to tell on themselves.

1147
00:37:16,309 --> 00:37:16,809
So,

1148
00:37:17,269 --> 00:37:20,390
what what about the what about the the

1149
00:37:20,390 --> 00:37:22,730
car bomb that was found that was planted?

1150
00:37:23,454 --> 00:37:25,454
You know, what about that? How come we're

1151
00:37:25,454 --> 00:37:27,694
not talking about that? How come that footage

1152
00:37:27,694 --> 00:37:30,275
wasn't released until recently, and

1153
00:37:30,655 --> 00:37:32,414
and we have real questions about who is

1154
00:37:32,414 --> 00:37:34,355
involved in in in I mean, the whole

1155
00:37:35,295 --> 00:37:35,954
my first

1156
00:37:36,890 --> 00:37:39,230
comment with regard to the January 6,

1157
00:37:39,930 --> 00:37:40,430
situation

1158
00:37:40,890 --> 00:37:42,969
is and and and I was I always

1159
00:37:42,969 --> 00:37:44,190
wanna start with this.

1160
00:37:44,890 --> 00:37:45,390
Don't

1161
00:37:45,769 --> 00:37:46,989
walk into traps,

1162
00:37:47,530 --> 00:37:48,030
period.

1163
00:37:48,410 --> 00:37:51,150
This was an obvious trap from the beginning.

1164
00:37:51,844 --> 00:37:53,924
I I can't stress that enough. Like, the

1165
00:37:53,924 --> 00:37:56,264
people that actually physically went there,

1166
00:37:56,804 --> 00:37:59,045
you just have to know better. I'm not

1167
00:37:59,045 --> 00:38:00,804
saying that you did anything wrong. I'm not

1168
00:38:00,804 --> 00:38:02,085
saying that they should have done what they

1169
00:38:02,085 --> 00:38:03,605
did to the j six people because they

1170
00:38:03,605 --> 00:38:05,204
shouldn't have or anything like that. I mean,

1171
00:38:05,204 --> 00:38:06,344
it was the most

1172
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,140
coordinated and organized

1173
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:10,840
insurrection I've ever seen. They're going in through

1174
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:10,920
the

1175
00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:14,780
following the rope stanchions and, like, walking in

1176
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,320
like they're on a guided tour. So the

1177
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,545
whole thing was nonsensical. But still, even if

1178
00:38:20,545 --> 00:38:22,304
you're just there to take pictures, even if

1179
00:38:22,304 --> 00:38:24,164
you're just there for the pageantry

1180
00:38:24,945 --> 00:38:26,224
of it all or just to say that

1181
00:38:26,224 --> 00:38:28,385
you were there, in the future, when they

1182
00:38:28,385 --> 00:38:30,625
have events like this, don't show up. You're

1183
00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:32,570
walking into a trap. Your cell phone is

1184
00:38:32,570 --> 00:38:35,530
being monitored. They're taking pictures of everybody who's

1185
00:38:35,530 --> 00:38:36,750
there. I mean,

1186
00:38:37,050 --> 00:38:38,190
this is but,

1187
00:38:38,489 --> 00:38:39,150
you know,

1188
00:38:39,849 --> 00:38:40,909
besides that,

1189
00:38:41,849 --> 00:38:44,750
you're you're dealing with a monolithic government

1190
00:38:45,135 --> 00:38:47,534
that might pretend from time to time that

1191
00:38:47,534 --> 00:38:49,695
it's red team versus blue team to keep

1192
00:38:49,695 --> 00:38:51,855
you distracted. But when it really matters, the

1193
00:38:51,855 --> 00:38:52,355
FBI

1194
00:38:52,655 --> 00:38:53,155
is

1195
00:38:53,775 --> 00:38:56,255
deeply ingrained. It's not gonna be removed. It

1196
00:38:56,255 --> 00:38:58,574
doesn't it is part of the permanent state.

1197
00:38:58,574 --> 00:39:01,429
Yes? Mhmm. Republicans come into office, then Democrats

1198
00:39:01,429 --> 00:39:03,429
come into office, and they change the heads

1199
00:39:03,429 --> 00:39:05,349
of the FBI and all that stuff. But

1200
00:39:05,349 --> 00:39:08,489
the the agents and the inside the agency,

1201
00:39:08,710 --> 00:39:09,449
they remain.

1202
00:39:09,750 --> 00:39:11,864
Nothing changes there. So this,

1203
00:39:12,565 --> 00:39:14,405
this notion that Cash Patel is gonna come

1204
00:39:14,405 --> 00:39:16,184
in and fix the FBI is

1205
00:39:16,805 --> 00:39:19,844
is is just magical thinking Yeah. That MAGA

1206
00:39:19,844 --> 00:39:20,744
wants to hear

1207
00:39:21,125 --> 00:39:22,905
because they know that it should

1208
00:39:23,364 --> 00:39:25,285
be reformed, and it should be gutted and

1209
00:39:25,285 --> 00:39:27,780
taken down to the studs and rebuilt or,

1210
00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:29,940
frankly, should be abolished altogether. But

1211
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:32,799
but even the the MAGA people would say,

1212
00:39:32,799 --> 00:39:34,319
well, we need it because, you know, there's

1213
00:39:34,319 --> 00:39:36,159
bad guys and terrorists out there, and we

1214
00:39:36,159 --> 00:39:38,500
we just want an FBI that runs correctly,

1215
00:39:38,799 --> 00:39:40,480
that does things by the book. And it's

1216
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,335
like, there's never been an FBI that does

1217
00:39:43,335 --> 00:39:45,414
things by the book. Don't you understand what

1218
00:39:45,414 --> 00:39:47,275
that like, J. Edgar Hoover was

1219
00:39:47,974 --> 00:39:50,055
was was as big of a gangster as

1220
00:39:50,055 --> 00:39:52,295
anybody else that he was allegedly going out

1221
00:39:52,295 --> 00:39:54,474
there trying to prosecute. So

1222
00:39:54,775 --> 00:39:55,434
this is

1223
00:39:55,860 --> 00:39:57,160
this is organized

1224
00:39:57,539 --> 00:39:58,039
crime

1225
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:00,740
Right. Known as the government. It's just that

1226
00:40:00,740 --> 00:40:02,039
in in the movies,

1227
00:40:02,340 --> 00:40:04,820
we're trained to think that organized crime is,

1228
00:40:05,140 --> 00:40:08,099
Italian mafioso smoking cigars and, you know, at

1229
00:40:08,099 --> 00:40:09,240
a pizzeria somewhere,

1230
00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:12,335
and and and, you know, shaking down the

1231
00:40:12,335 --> 00:40:15,135
local residents for protection money. No. Organized crime

1232
00:40:15,135 --> 00:40:16,034
is the FBI.

1233
00:40:16,494 --> 00:40:19,074
It's the largest domestic terrorist organization

1234
00:40:19,534 --> 00:40:20,755
in The United States.

1235
00:40:22,175 --> 00:40:22,835
Absolutely. So

1236
00:40:23,135 --> 00:40:24,894
the idea that it's gonna get turned around

1237
00:40:24,894 --> 00:40:27,119
is is is is wishful thinking, and I

1238
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:28,960
I wish people would focus on on on

1239
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,199
other things. Well, this is why they've adapted

1240
00:40:31,199 --> 00:40:32,880
the the argument. And, I mean, what I

1241
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,239
saw well, I think we this has been

1242
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:35,679
building for a while, you know, where you

1243
00:40:35,679 --> 00:40:38,019
saw suddenly the the new argument that, well,

1244
00:40:38,195 --> 00:40:39,875
you know, we're not we're not left right.

1245
00:40:39,875 --> 00:40:41,635
We see beyond it. We're patriots. I said,

1246
00:40:41,635 --> 00:40:43,315
okay. Well, are you voting for republicans? Okay.

1247
00:40:43,315 --> 00:40:44,994
So you're still you're still taking a side.

1248
00:40:44,994 --> 00:40:46,914
And the argument is because, well, those are

1249
00:40:46,914 --> 00:40:47,655
all rhinos.

1250
00:40:48,114 --> 00:40:49,875
Right? So all you really did was go,

1251
00:40:49,875 --> 00:40:51,730
you're all, you know, you're democrats and rhinos,

1252
00:40:51,730 --> 00:40:53,329
so there's one side, and now we're patriots.

1253
00:40:53,329 --> 00:40:54,529
So you still have a two party illusion.

1254
00:40:54,529 --> 00:40:56,049
You're still doing the exact same thing. But

1255
00:40:56,049 --> 00:40:57,969
it allowed them to think that, oh, yeah.

1256
00:40:57,969 --> 00:40:59,489
Two party illusion. We're with you. You know

1257
00:40:59,489 --> 00:41:00,609
what I mean? Like, it was it was

1258
00:41:00,609 --> 00:41:02,049
an evolution of that. And now you've got

1259
00:41:02,049 --> 00:41:03,730
the problem where people and look. I I

1260
00:41:03,730 --> 00:41:05,154
will I will point out. I don't think

1261
00:41:05,154 --> 00:41:07,275
there's anything wrong with hoping the outcome goes

1262
00:41:07,275 --> 00:41:08,434
the way you want it to. But like

1263
00:41:08,434 --> 00:41:10,914
you're saying, hopium is the problem, is you

1264
00:41:10,914 --> 00:41:12,914
need to hope or want or, you know,

1265
00:41:12,914 --> 00:41:15,234
wish for the best thing, but criticize everything,

1266
00:41:15,234 --> 00:41:16,994
hold them to account. You know? But yeah.

1267
00:41:16,994 --> 00:41:18,755
So they they evolved it into the point

1268
00:41:18,755 --> 00:41:21,260
to where now today, like you're seeing, it's

1269
00:41:21,260 --> 00:41:21,760
that

1270
00:41:22,059 --> 00:41:23,659
this is, like you said, the white hat

1271
00:41:23,659 --> 00:41:25,519
part of it that's fighting all of them,

1272
00:41:25,579 --> 00:41:27,659
the government, everybody, left and right, all of

1273
00:41:27,659 --> 00:41:29,579
congress. You know? And, hey. I like I

1274
00:41:29,579 --> 00:41:31,179
said, that's why I said that. I I

1275
00:41:31,179 --> 00:41:32,699
hope that happens. But I think as you

1276
00:41:32,699 --> 00:41:35,405
pointed out, there's already a very clear track

1277
00:41:35,405 --> 00:41:37,644
record just from this administration forward that shows

1278
00:41:37,644 --> 00:41:38,844
you they're already lying to you. You know?

1279
00:41:38,844 --> 00:41:40,445
It's like, let's just be real about what's

1280
00:41:40,445 --> 00:41:42,284
happening in front of us. So the the

1281
00:41:42,284 --> 00:41:44,045
January 6 point all is also,

1282
00:41:45,244 --> 00:41:47,025
this is also a tweet, that same conversation

1283
00:41:47,164 --> 00:41:48,144
in regard to,

1284
00:41:48,699 --> 00:41:50,699
Kash Patel telling Fox News last week that

1285
00:41:50,699 --> 00:41:53,900
his investigation at July 13. Trump assassination attempt

1286
00:41:53,900 --> 00:41:55,340
was closed. And so I these are all

1287
00:41:55,340 --> 00:41:56,940
kind of my mind the same wheelhouse because

1288
00:41:56,940 --> 00:41:58,699
there are they're interesting points that I think

1289
00:41:58,699 --> 00:41:59,679
we've all identified

1290
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:02,320
or other events that are manipulated

1291
00:42:02,704 --> 00:42:04,224
In some way or another, whether false flags,

1292
00:42:04,224 --> 00:42:05,824
you know, whatever else you wanna call it,

1293
00:42:05,824 --> 00:42:08,224
it's pretty clear that most, in particularly on

1294
00:42:08,224 --> 00:42:10,065
the Republican side, think that there was at

1295
00:42:10,065 --> 00:42:11,505
least more than one shooter, which I think

1296
00:42:11,505 --> 00:42:13,664
is flatly obvious, quite frankly, based on the

1297
00:42:13,664 --> 00:42:15,364
evidence. But they've closed it

1298
00:42:15,829 --> 00:42:17,750
and are arguing there was only one shooter.

1299
00:42:17,750 --> 00:42:18,869
And it says, when he said that, I

1300
00:42:18,869 --> 00:42:20,789
immediately filed a FOIA request. This is Ken

1301
00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:21,289
Silva

1302
00:42:21,590 --> 00:42:23,590
of, not familiar with his platform, but just

1303
00:42:23,590 --> 00:42:25,190
he pointed this out. And I you follow

1304
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:26,389
him, but I forget how I know him.

1305
00:42:26,389 --> 00:42:28,630
I overlap for something else. Libertarian Institute, it

1306
00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:30,409
looks like. We do a contributor and editor.

1307
00:42:30,469 --> 00:42:32,594
It says, when he heard him say that,

1308
00:42:32,594 --> 00:42:34,594
he immediately filed a FOIA request for all

1309
00:42:34,594 --> 00:42:37,235
FBI interviews, reports from the investigation. Today, he

1310
00:42:37,235 --> 00:42:39,394
was denied that request on the grounds that

1311
00:42:39,394 --> 00:42:41,474
the case was still open. So they're saying

1312
00:42:41,474 --> 00:42:43,155
they closed the case, but they're denying grounds

1313
00:42:43,155 --> 00:42:44,835
on FOIA requests because they're saying the case

1314
00:42:44,835 --> 00:42:46,340
is still open. So, I mean, it's things

1315
00:42:46,340 --> 00:42:48,099
exactly like this that show you there's a

1316
00:42:48,099 --> 00:42:50,019
lot more going on where they want you

1317
00:42:50,019 --> 00:42:51,140
to think. That's why I was asking at

1318
00:42:51,140 --> 00:42:52,980
the beginning that I still feel like they're

1319
00:42:52,980 --> 00:42:54,360
genuinely trying to clumsily

1320
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:56,420
hope that people think they're doing the right

1321
00:42:56,420 --> 00:42:57,780
thing, and I think that just shows that

1322
00:42:57,780 --> 00:42:58,599
they're desperate.

1323
00:42:59,114 --> 00:43:00,715
Which, maybe that's hopium for me, but I

1324
00:43:00,715 --> 00:43:02,074
do think that's clearly what they it feels

1325
00:43:02,074 --> 00:43:04,155
like they're scrambling to try to make this

1326
00:43:04,155 --> 00:43:05,835
make sense. Or maybe you're right, maybe it's

1327
00:43:05,835 --> 00:43:08,014
about trying to, you know, I guess,

1328
00:43:08,954 --> 00:43:11,275
manufacture learned helplessness. Right? Get us to just

1329
00:43:11,275 --> 00:43:12,554
sit back and go, Oh, well. I guess

1330
00:43:12,554 --> 00:43:14,309
that's the way it is. But, unless you

1331
00:43:14,309 --> 00:43:15,390
wanna comment on that, I was just adding

1332
00:43:15,390 --> 00:43:16,469
to what we talked about. I do find

1333
00:43:16,469 --> 00:43:18,070
that interesting, though. It's a great thing. It

1334
00:43:18,070 --> 00:43:19,750
it could it could be it could be

1335
00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:21,590
learned helpless. And I mean, they they could

1336
00:43:21,829 --> 00:43:24,150
it's important with when dealing with these people

1337
00:43:24,150 --> 00:43:26,230
to understand that there's there's two things that

1338
00:43:26,230 --> 00:43:27,930
they do. There's what they say,

1339
00:43:28,255 --> 00:43:30,094
and then there's what they do. Mhmm. And

1340
00:43:30,094 --> 00:43:32,094
so when they say the case is closed,

1341
00:43:32,094 --> 00:43:33,855
that's why you need to pull the foyer

1342
00:43:33,855 --> 00:43:35,295
and say, like, I want all the and

1343
00:43:35,295 --> 00:43:36,574
then they said, well, actually, the case is

1344
00:43:36,574 --> 00:43:38,734
open. So the case is open still. But

1345
00:43:38,734 --> 00:43:40,574
you said it was closed. So it's like

1346
00:43:40,574 --> 00:43:42,275
you cannot trust these people

1347
00:43:42,630 --> 00:43:45,109
at all for anything. I wouldn't trust Cas

1348
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:46,630
Patel to tell me what he had for

1349
00:43:46,630 --> 00:43:49,029
breakfast this morning because I just think that

1350
00:43:49,029 --> 00:43:51,589
lying is so ingrained. You don't it's not

1351
00:43:51,589 --> 00:43:54,010
that you become the FBI

1352
00:43:54,389 --> 00:43:55,529
head and then

1353
00:43:56,075 --> 00:43:57,535
they teach you how to lie.

1354
00:43:57,835 --> 00:44:00,015
It's that you are a pathological

1355
00:44:00,555 --> 00:44:01,055
liar

1356
00:44:01,515 --> 00:44:04,155
at your core. That's the reason why you

1357
00:44:04,155 --> 00:44:05,914
are put in a position like that. Some

1358
00:44:05,914 --> 00:44:08,494
are better at it than others. 19%.

1359
00:44:09,170 --> 00:44:11,489
James Comey was was great at it. James

1360
00:44:11,489 --> 00:44:13,650
Comey could sit there and just look at

1361
00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:16,469
you and and and and tell a lie

1362
00:44:16,690 --> 00:44:19,170
without without cracking it. I look at Cash.

1363
00:44:19,170 --> 00:44:21,010
Cash looks like an amateur. He's looking all

1364
00:44:21,010 --> 00:44:22,950
over the place. It feels very uncomfortable.

1365
00:44:23,445 --> 00:44:25,765
James Comey was a stone cold killer. You

1366
00:44:25,765 --> 00:44:27,445
know what I mean? He'll tell you Obama.

1367
00:44:27,525 --> 00:44:28,805
Was one of the most dangerous that we've

1368
00:44:28,805 --> 00:44:30,005
ever had because he was one of the

1369
00:44:30,005 --> 00:44:31,605
best making you feel like he wasn't lying.

1370
00:44:31,605 --> 00:44:32,885
He was one of the most dangerous we've

1371
00:44:32,885 --> 00:44:33,385
had.

1372
00:44:34,005 --> 00:44:36,199
Yes. He did there there is a it's

1373
00:44:36,199 --> 00:44:38,279
a talent. It's a skill, and you can

1374
00:44:38,279 --> 00:44:40,119
you can improve upon it. You can get

1375
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:42,619
better at it, but some people have it.

1376
00:44:42,759 --> 00:44:44,619
Some people have that ability. I mean,

1377
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,799
Barack Obama is is, in my opinion, one

1378
00:44:47,799 --> 00:44:50,119
of the most dangerous people around there in

1379
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,724
part because the vast majority of people don't

1380
00:44:52,724 --> 00:44:54,644
think he's dangerous. They think the only bad

1381
00:44:54,644 --> 00:44:55,764
day he had was that he wore a

1382
00:44:55,764 --> 00:44:57,065
tan suit one time.

1383
00:44:57,605 --> 00:44:59,364
They think he didn't kill people. They think

1384
00:44:59,364 --> 00:45:01,444
he wasn't drone bombing people. They don't they

1385
00:45:01,444 --> 00:45:03,380
don't know any of that. They because it's

1386
00:45:03,539 --> 00:45:05,380
they see the smile and he like, hey,

1387
00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:07,699
listen to me. And he likes basketball. He's

1388
00:45:07,699 --> 00:45:09,699
just like me, you know. And and they

1389
00:45:09,699 --> 00:45:12,599
do all those things and and a skilled

1390
00:45:13,699 --> 00:45:15,699
I mean, you gotta give credit where credit

1391
00:45:15,699 --> 00:45:16,360
is due.

1392
00:45:18,045 --> 00:45:20,065
Barack Obama could could could

1393
00:45:20,364 --> 00:45:22,525
lie right to your face, and most people

1394
00:45:22,525 --> 00:45:24,525
that didn't know any better would,

1395
00:45:25,005 --> 00:45:27,565
wouldn't be able to distinguish the lies from

1396
00:45:27,565 --> 00:45:28,364
the truth. But,

1397
00:45:29,244 --> 00:45:31,960
but somebody like Trump, Trump is a different

1398
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,200
form of liar, you know. He he's,

1399
00:45:35,559 --> 00:45:37,800
he's the ringleader of the circus, you know.

1400
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,320
He's just step right up. You're about to

1401
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,000
see the most amazing thing you've ever seen

1402
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:42,780
in your life. Well, that's a lie.

1403
00:45:43,265 --> 00:45:45,344
Well, could be. For somebody, it could be

1404
00:45:45,344 --> 00:45:47,344
true. For somebody's gonna see the most amazing

1405
00:45:47,344 --> 00:45:49,105
thing they ever saw in there. So it's

1406
00:45:49,105 --> 00:45:50,485
like, it's a different

1407
00:45:51,265 --> 00:45:51,765
style.

1408
00:45:52,224 --> 00:45:53,985
See, well, this is interesting. Let let's focus

1409
00:45:53,985 --> 00:45:56,164
on this for a second because this is,

1410
00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,360
generally want your thought on on why you

1411
00:45:58,360 --> 00:45:59,800
think it like, so clearly, I agree. Like,

1412
00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:01,719
there's a different thing happening right now where

1413
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:03,480
it's gone from, you know or even just

1414
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,480
a comparative point between the two. Like, that

1415
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:06,679
adds to what you're saying earlier. Do they

1416
00:46:06,679 --> 00:46:08,119
really just want us to see how bad

1417
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:09,800
this is? Maybe that's a foreign policy thing

1418
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,494
or foreign government thing. You know? But but

1419
00:46:11,655 --> 00:46:13,494
so on that overlapping point, you know, you

1420
00:46:13,494 --> 00:46:15,494
can clearly see that shift into, at least

1421
00:46:15,494 --> 00:46:17,094
as the way I've I've framed it as

1422
00:46:17,094 --> 00:46:17,594
nuance.

1423
00:46:18,055 --> 00:46:20,295
Right? Where you have a difference of opinion

1424
00:46:20,295 --> 00:46:22,135
based on the facts we're seeing. That's how

1425
00:46:22,135 --> 00:46:23,494
it always felt to me in the past

1426
00:46:23,494 --> 00:46:25,255
where you get both sides telling you different

1427
00:46:25,255 --> 00:46:27,289
stories, but really trying to root it around

1428
00:46:27,289 --> 00:46:29,130
the general facts, but they're lying to you

1429
00:46:29,130 --> 00:46:30,650
about them in a way. Right? Now we've

1430
00:46:30,650 --> 00:46:32,570
gotten this point to where nobody in the

1431
00:46:32,570 --> 00:46:34,409
partisan field ever has really cared about the

1432
00:46:34,409 --> 00:46:36,170
facts. But now you've got this situation where

1433
00:46:36,170 --> 00:46:38,650
you've got the current leadership and have the

1434
00:46:38,650 --> 00:46:40,489
same thing I building I saw during Biden,

1435
00:46:40,489 --> 00:46:43,025
whoever's currently in power, not having a nuance

1436
00:46:43,025 --> 00:46:44,465
around the facts but just coming out and

1437
00:46:44,465 --> 00:46:46,785
going two plus two equals five. And and

1438
00:46:46,785 --> 00:46:47,684
that's some philosophical

1439
00:46:47,985 --> 00:46:50,224
conversation about maybe math doesn't exist. No. They're

1440
00:46:50,224 --> 00:46:52,224
going, I'm entering two plus two. My calculator

1441
00:46:52,224 --> 00:46:53,985
is says five. And you're like, but that's

1442
00:46:53,985 --> 00:46:55,280
not true. You know? So how do you

1443
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,039
even combat with that? You know? That's the

1444
00:46:57,039 --> 00:46:58,559
difference to me, and I I wonder why

1445
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:00,179
that shift has happened. It's interesting.

1446
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:04,239
Yeah. It it certainly has happened. The you

1447
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:05,059
the brazen,

1448
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:09,059
nature of their lives are it's it's,

1449
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,824
terrifying, frankly. Yeah. Actually, I I think it's

1450
00:47:12,824 --> 00:47:15,625
I think it's a sign of impending doom,

1451
00:47:15,625 --> 00:47:17,304
to be honest with you, because at least

1452
00:47:17,304 --> 00:47:19,385
while they're trying to lie to you and

1453
00:47:19,385 --> 00:47:20,985
trying to tell you to paint a different

1454
00:47:20,985 --> 00:47:23,385
story, that that at least feels like they're

1455
00:47:23,385 --> 00:47:25,299
trying to cover up their tracks. When you

1456
00:47:25,299 --> 00:47:28,599
get to around a person who doesn't even

1457
00:47:29,619 --> 00:47:30,679
feel the need

1458
00:47:31,299 --> 00:47:33,079
to to give you the backstory

1459
00:47:33,460 --> 00:47:35,619
or they just say, two plus two equals

1460
00:47:35,619 --> 00:47:36,900
five. And if you have a problem with

1461
00:47:36,900 --> 00:47:39,485
it, that's your problem, buddy. That's a dangerous

1462
00:47:39,485 --> 00:47:41,965
person. That's somebody who is doesn't even wanna

1463
00:47:41,965 --> 00:47:43,824
play the game of trying to,

1464
00:47:45,965 --> 00:47:46,625
you know,

1465
00:47:47,005 --> 00:47:49,324
mislead you with a story or anything like

1466
00:47:49,324 --> 00:47:49,805
that. They

1467
00:47:50,539 --> 00:47:52,380
and again, I feel like these are two

1468
00:47:52,380 --> 00:47:53,280
separate messages

1469
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:56,300
for for people. You know, you when you

1470
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:58,219
when you tell somebody two plus two equals

1471
00:47:58,219 --> 00:47:58,719
five,

1472
00:47:59,019 --> 00:47:59,519
then

1473
00:48:00,460 --> 00:48:02,139
you you get a certain segment of the

1474
00:48:02,139 --> 00:48:04,125
population that says, okay. I guess that's what

1475
00:48:04,125 --> 00:48:05,485
we're doing now, and they get on board.

1476
00:48:05,485 --> 00:48:07,324
And then you have a smaller segment that

1477
00:48:07,324 --> 00:48:07,824
says,

1478
00:48:08,364 --> 00:48:10,125
yeah. But I know that two plus two

1479
00:48:10,125 --> 00:48:13,565
equals four. And their response is is and

1480
00:48:13,565 --> 00:48:15,324
yet we're still telling you that two plus

1481
00:48:15,324 --> 00:48:17,085
two equals five. So you're not gonna be

1482
00:48:17,085 --> 00:48:18,730
able to do anything about it. That's just

1483
00:48:18,730 --> 00:48:20,050
the way it is right now. So it's

1484
00:48:20,050 --> 00:48:21,469
a d it demoralizes

1485
00:48:21,930 --> 00:48:23,869
people that wanna hold them accountable

1486
00:48:24,329 --> 00:48:26,090
because they're telling you right to your face,

1487
00:48:26,090 --> 00:48:27,849
you're not gonna hold me accountable. If I

1488
00:48:27,849 --> 00:48:29,450
was if I thought that I needed to

1489
00:48:29,450 --> 00:48:31,130
be held accountable, I would tell you that

1490
00:48:31,130 --> 00:48:32,590
two plus two equals four.

1491
00:48:32,894 --> 00:48:35,215
Right? Well, that's why I am blatantly lying

1492
00:48:35,215 --> 00:48:37,454
to you shows that there's nothing you're gonna

1493
00:48:37,454 --> 00:48:39,054
do about it, at least in their mind.

1494
00:48:39,054 --> 00:48:40,735
That that that they're that they're not even

1495
00:48:40,735 --> 00:48:42,434
worried about getting caught anymore.

1496
00:48:42,974 --> 00:48:44,574
That's the learned helplessness in a way too.

1497
00:48:44,574 --> 00:48:45,775
And I think the other part of it

1498
00:48:45,775 --> 00:48:46,815
is you do have the ones you're talking

1499
00:48:46,815 --> 00:48:49,010
about that maybe really do want to argue.

1500
00:48:49,230 --> 00:48:50,510
Right? But then they sit back and they

1501
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:51,949
go, well and they've been trained this way

1502
00:48:51,949 --> 00:48:53,550
for the last four years that, well, you

1503
00:48:53,550 --> 00:48:55,390
know, maybe a two plus two does equal

1504
00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:56,909
four, but but they would have made it

1505
00:48:56,909 --> 00:48:58,670
two plus two equals six. So I'm gonna

1506
00:48:58,670 --> 00:48:59,949
go with five because it's closer to my

1507
00:48:59,949 --> 00:49:01,425
lie. You know? Like, that's that's the weird

1508
00:49:01,425 --> 00:49:03,285
place we're at where they just rationalized

1509
00:49:03,664 --> 00:49:04,945
why the lie is still better than the

1510
00:49:04,945 --> 00:49:07,364
other lie. You know? It's it's frustrating, but

1511
00:49:07,505 --> 00:49:09,025
it is having a clear effect. You know?

1512
00:49:09,025 --> 00:49:11,184
And and it's it's just an interesting dynamic

1513
00:49:11,184 --> 00:49:13,025
where the well, I will add to it

1514
00:49:13,025 --> 00:49:15,010
actually too where it's not just two plus

1515
00:49:15,010 --> 00:49:16,369
two equals five and too bad, you just

1516
00:49:16,369 --> 00:49:17,730
deal with it. It's just that you come

1517
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:19,010
out and say the opposite, two plus two

1518
00:49:19,010 --> 00:49:20,930
equals four, and then they remove your bank

1519
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:23,670
account and send you El Salvador. That's that's

1520
00:49:23,809 --> 00:49:25,489
right. Beginning to go. It's like, woah. Maybe

1521
00:49:25,489 --> 00:49:27,010
I'll just say two plus two equals five.

1522
00:49:27,010 --> 00:49:28,769
And I think that's what's alarming is that

1523
00:49:28,769 --> 00:49:31,465
learned not helplessness in this case, but, like,

1524
00:49:31,605 --> 00:49:33,605
adherence, you know, where people go along to

1525
00:49:33,605 --> 00:49:35,684
get along. And and people that wouldn't otherwise

1526
00:49:35,684 --> 00:49:37,204
do that might be more willing to if

1527
00:49:37,204 --> 00:49:40,005
they recognize the consequences are very real. Like,

1528
00:49:40,005 --> 00:49:41,684
not just to call you out, lose your

1529
00:49:41,684 --> 00:49:43,684
platform, but maybe there's actual con maybe you

1530
00:49:43,684 --> 00:49:45,349
go to prison for saying the truth. You

1531
00:49:45,349 --> 00:49:47,690
know, that's the dangerous path we're on.

1532
00:49:48,150 --> 00:49:49,989
It's it's funny that you chose the two

1533
00:49:49,989 --> 00:49:52,550
plus two equals five metaphor because in my

1534
00:49:52,550 --> 00:49:53,050
Octopus

1535
00:49:53,430 --> 00:49:55,510
book that I wrote in 2017, there's a

1536
00:49:55,510 --> 00:49:56,869
quote I have in there from a lady

1537
00:49:56,869 --> 00:49:59,204
named Amanda August, and she was the curriculum

1538
00:49:59,425 --> 00:50:02,625
coordinator for common core. And she's talking about

1539
00:50:02,625 --> 00:50:04,804
three times four equally in 11.

1540
00:50:05,264 --> 00:50:07,344
And she was saying that that because they

1541
00:50:07,344 --> 00:50:09,025
wound up on a conversation where she was

1542
00:50:09,025 --> 00:50:09,525
explaining

1543
00:50:09,905 --> 00:50:12,989
that they're not really concerned if the if

1544
00:50:12,989 --> 00:50:15,090
the child puts three times four,

1545
00:50:16,510 --> 00:50:17,329
equals 11,

1546
00:50:17,869 --> 00:50:19,789
what she really wanted to see was them

1547
00:50:19,789 --> 00:50:22,030
show their work, how they got to that

1548
00:50:22,030 --> 00:50:24,670
number, and then they would get partial credit

1549
00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:26,105
for it. And she was saying, if you

1550
00:50:26,105 --> 00:50:28,025
just put three times four equals 12, I

1551
00:50:28,025 --> 00:50:29,385
mean, how do I know that you even

1552
00:50:29,385 --> 00:50:31,625
know what you're doing? Sure. It's the right

1553
00:50:31,625 --> 00:50:33,224
answer, but I don't know how you know

1554
00:50:33,224 --> 00:50:34,284
that. So

1555
00:50:34,744 --> 00:50:36,925
she was saying, we're more we're not interested

1556
00:50:36,984 --> 00:50:39,510
so much in the final answer. We're interested

1557
00:50:39,510 --> 00:50:41,910
in the how and the why and how

1558
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:43,690
you came to that conclusion. It's like,

1559
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:45,849
the answer is wrong.

1560
00:50:46,150 --> 00:50:48,010
The answer is blatantly incorrect.

1561
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:50,230
Who cares how you came up with it?

1562
00:50:50,230 --> 00:50:52,484
The other answer is correct. Why won't you

1563
00:50:52,484 --> 00:50:54,164
go with that? And that's like the common

1564
00:50:54,164 --> 00:50:57,444
core philosophy is like a perfect encapsulation of

1565
00:50:57,444 --> 00:51:00,324
this because it's like, it doesn't matter if

1566
00:51:00,324 --> 00:51:03,284
you're blatantly wrong. As long as you can

1567
00:51:03,284 --> 00:51:05,764
bullshit your teacher well enough, you'll get partial

1568
00:51:05,764 --> 00:51:06,264
credit.

1569
00:51:06,750 --> 00:51:08,590
Yeah. And look, this is important though. Is

1570
00:51:08,750 --> 00:51:10,909
it's also so it's it's this is how,

1571
00:51:10,909 --> 00:51:11,409
like,

1572
00:51:12,750 --> 00:51:14,690
like, matter like, there's a lot of multiple

1573
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:16,590
levels to this. Right? So I would argue

1574
00:51:16,590 --> 00:51:18,684
though, first of all, first and foremost, you

1575
00:51:18,684 --> 00:51:20,444
don't get partial credit for being wrong. I

1576
00:51:20,444 --> 00:51:22,525
think that's absurd. I think that's training the

1577
00:51:22,525 --> 00:51:24,204
idea into you that, you know, it's like

1578
00:51:24,204 --> 00:51:26,204
it's like the participation medal in math. Right?

1579
00:51:26,204 --> 00:51:27,585
It's the same kind of thing. Right?

1580
00:51:28,125 --> 00:51:30,125
Or or ribbon or whatever. But but what's

1581
00:51:30,125 --> 00:51:32,769
interesting is I do argue that it would

1582
00:51:32,769 --> 00:51:35,429
be important to not just memorize

1583
00:51:35,809 --> 00:51:38,210
the outcome. Like, with doctors just being told

1584
00:51:38,210 --> 00:51:39,730
you get this, here's your pill. Like, they're

1585
00:51:39,730 --> 00:51:42,530
an automaton. Instead, to understand how you did

1586
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:44,449
that so you could better understand it. That

1587
00:51:44,449 --> 00:51:46,684
is important. So it's like we've played this

1588
00:51:46,684 --> 00:51:48,525
where, you know, it's it's it's it shouldn't

1589
00:51:48,525 --> 00:51:50,605
just be memorization to learn these numbers, do

1590
00:51:50,605 --> 00:51:52,045
that, but to understand how you got there.

1591
00:51:52,045 --> 00:51:54,045
That would make a person smarter. But not

1592
00:51:54,045 --> 00:51:55,644
to walk it back to where all we

1593
00:51:55,644 --> 00:51:57,360
care about is whether or not you

1594
00:51:57,840 --> 00:51:59,760
even incorrectly like, I don't I can't even

1595
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:01,119
wrap my mind around that. How so you

1596
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,119
can incorrectly show your math and still gain

1597
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:05,280
points? It just seems ridiculous. But so this

1598
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:07,200
is where we end up where now the

1599
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,360
overreaction is, well, no. It's like we're leaning

1600
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:10,880
in. It's a small point in regard to

1601
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:12,974
memorization, but I do think that's interesting. Right?

1602
00:52:12,974 --> 00:52:14,494
That I well, I think we probably both

1603
00:52:14,494 --> 00:52:16,894
agreed that they should understand how the math

1604
00:52:16,894 --> 00:52:18,035
works, but, obviously,

1605
00:52:18,335 --> 00:52:20,095
the outcome of that math problem is all

1606
00:52:20,095 --> 00:52:21,614
that really matters, you know, in in the

1607
00:52:21,614 --> 00:52:23,954
point of understand you know? Yeah. Go ahead.

1608
00:52:24,335 --> 00:52:25,535
Why why do I need to show my

1609
00:52:25,535 --> 00:52:27,295
work that three times four is 12? I

1610
00:52:27,295 --> 00:52:28,675
learned that three years ago.

1611
00:52:29,269 --> 00:52:30,389
You know what I mean? Like, I don't

1612
00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:32,070
so I need to show my work on

1613
00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:34,309
every single thing I do because but, like,

1614
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:36,150
some of this, I already you know, why

1615
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:37,130
do I have to show

1616
00:52:37,909 --> 00:52:39,929
the the math on this? It's so simple.

1617
00:52:40,150 --> 00:52:42,070
We did it a long time ago. There's

1618
00:52:42,070 --> 00:52:43,655
no need to show my work in the

1619
00:52:43,655 --> 00:52:45,594
fact that that Because of, you know Yeah.

1620
00:52:45,734 --> 00:52:47,574
Well, it's just common core absurd, and we

1621
00:52:47,574 --> 00:52:49,014
all, like, like I mean, I funny you

1622
00:52:49,014 --> 00:52:50,454
bring it up. I'm like, whatever happened to

1623
00:52:50,454 --> 00:52:51,894
that? Is that even still going on? Like,

1624
00:52:51,894 --> 00:52:53,894
it that was an early example of them

1625
00:52:53,894 --> 00:52:56,339
trying to kinda rewire the way people see

1626
00:52:56,339 --> 00:52:58,019
things. And it's we're seeing it happen that

1627
00:52:58,019 --> 00:52:59,779
right now as well. But, I mean, yeah,

1628
00:52:59,779 --> 00:53:02,279
flatly, obviously, that is absurd and manipulative.

1629
00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:04,179
And it's interesting that, you know, the way

1630
00:53:04,179 --> 00:53:06,019
we deal with these things though and and

1631
00:53:06,019 --> 00:53:07,699
where that came from. You know, why do

1632
00:53:07,699 --> 00:53:09,719
we continue to allow these same

1633
00:53:10,094 --> 00:53:12,734
billionaire social engineers to constantly stick their fingers

1634
00:53:12,734 --> 00:53:14,734
in things left and right? You know? And,

1635
00:53:14,734 --> 00:53:16,335
like, my point with, like, GMO and Bill

1636
00:53:16,335 --> 00:53:18,175
Gates, for example, how do we not continue

1637
00:53:18,175 --> 00:53:20,034
to acknowledge the utter spectacular

1638
00:53:20,335 --> 00:53:22,494
failure that was the GMO food push for

1639
00:53:22,494 --> 00:53:25,219
India and the rest and that never stopped.

1640
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:27,440
Or the GMO vaccines are now a thing.

1641
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:28,800
You know? And it's like, we we have

1642
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,199
the the clear visible example that that is

1643
00:53:31,199 --> 00:53:33,119
not successful, that they tested on your lives,

1644
00:53:33,119 --> 00:53:34,559
and yet we just still keep going, you

1645
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:36,880
know, even despite the obvious focus on Bill

1646
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,315
Gates. You know, just show that we're we're

1647
00:53:38,394 --> 00:53:40,394
I think we're wrapped up in, like, the

1648
00:53:40,394 --> 00:53:42,394
theater of the partisan game, and we miss

1649
00:53:42,394 --> 00:53:43,914
the forest for the trees on almost all

1650
00:53:43,914 --> 00:53:45,914
of these topics, like, in a real big

1651
00:53:45,914 --> 00:53:46,815
sense, I think.

1652
00:53:47,434 --> 00:53:49,054
Yeah. Well, the oligarch

1653
00:53:49,434 --> 00:53:50,494
class, the,

1654
00:53:51,250 --> 00:53:51,910
you know,

1655
00:53:52,289 --> 00:53:52,789
the

1656
00:53:53,969 --> 00:53:57,250
Rockefellers and Carnegies and Bill Gates, you know,

1657
00:53:57,250 --> 00:53:59,250
of the world have you know, once you

1658
00:53:59,250 --> 00:54:01,110
get to a point where you have

1659
00:54:01,570 --> 00:54:03,969
bought everything with a price tag on it,

1660
00:54:03,969 --> 00:54:05,969
you start looking for things that aren't available

1661
00:54:05,969 --> 00:54:08,135
for sale, like the education system, like the

1662
00:54:08,135 --> 00:54:09,894
schooling system. Like, you you wanna be you

1663
00:54:09,894 --> 00:54:11,894
wanna be you're an industrialist. You wanna create

1664
00:54:11,894 --> 00:54:14,135
the school system so that people are more

1665
00:54:14,135 --> 00:54:16,855
better suited for the for the world in

1666
00:54:16,855 --> 00:54:19,094
which you're creating for them, which is sitting

1667
00:54:19,094 --> 00:54:21,094
at a you know, and sitting in rows

1668
00:54:21,094 --> 00:54:21,994
at the factory,

1669
00:54:22,469 --> 00:54:25,030
sewing buttons on blouses and waiting for the

1670
00:54:25,030 --> 00:54:26,630
bell to ring to tell you that it's

1671
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:27,829
time to go. I mean, it's the same

1672
00:54:27,829 --> 00:54:29,510
thing you get in schools. Right? So they

1673
00:54:29,510 --> 00:54:31,909
design the schools to mimic the future. And

1674
00:54:31,909 --> 00:54:33,269
so with Bill Gates, you have to ask

1675
00:54:33,269 --> 00:54:35,865
the question, like, what future are you planning?

1676
00:54:36,085 --> 00:54:37,845
Are you getting kids ready for when you're

1677
00:54:37,845 --> 00:54:39,765
you're telling them that three times four does

1678
00:54:39,765 --> 00:54:41,285
equal 11 as long as you can show

1679
00:54:41,285 --> 00:54:43,525
your work? It can't be engineering. You can't

1680
00:54:43,525 --> 00:54:45,525
build a bridge that people are gonna drive

1681
00:54:45,525 --> 00:54:47,570
across for that sort of math. You get

1682
00:54:47,570 --> 00:54:49,750
people into into their freshman year of college

1683
00:54:50,289 --> 00:54:52,610
and if they've come through common core, the

1684
00:54:52,610 --> 00:54:54,469
education system in college is saying,

1685
00:54:55,170 --> 00:54:58,769
you're two full years behind entry level college

1686
00:54:58,769 --> 00:55:01,474
math, which means your freshman and sophomore year,

1687
00:55:01,474 --> 00:55:02,934
you have to take math classes

1688
00:55:03,235 --> 00:55:04,675
just to be able to get to the

1689
00:55:04,675 --> 00:55:06,434
math class that you should have been taking

1690
00:55:06,434 --> 00:55:08,375
when you were a freshman, but you can't

1691
00:55:08,434 --> 00:55:11,015
because you're you're still, you know,

1692
00:55:11,474 --> 00:55:13,555
trying to explain why three times four equals

1693
00:55:13,555 --> 00:55:17,900
11. So we've set the entire education system

1694
00:55:17,900 --> 00:55:20,799
back by a number of years, and the

1695
00:55:21,579 --> 00:55:23,440
under the guise of of what?

1696
00:55:24,460 --> 00:55:26,539
Not making Bill Gates angry? I mean and

1697
00:55:26,539 --> 00:55:28,299
and, again, we've since we mentioned Obama, I

1698
00:55:28,299 --> 00:55:29,119
mean, Obama

1699
00:55:29,815 --> 00:55:31,574
dangled the carrot and told everybody that they

1700
00:55:31,574 --> 00:55:33,375
had to sign on. All the states had

1701
00:55:33,375 --> 00:55:35,735
to sign on to this abomination before they

1702
00:55:35,735 --> 00:55:37,735
even had the curriculum written. Then you see

1703
00:55:37,735 --> 00:55:39,655
the curriculum and you Exactly. Hear the guys

1704
00:55:39,655 --> 00:55:41,575
talking about it saying, you know, think of

1705
00:55:41,575 --> 00:55:43,675
a think of an idea on a napkin.

1706
00:55:43,815 --> 00:55:45,780
Think of nothing. Think of that's what we

1707
00:55:45,780 --> 00:55:47,380
had when we started. It's like, oh my

1708
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:49,380
god. Why are you saying this out in

1709
00:55:49,380 --> 00:55:52,119
general public? We already think your program's trash.

1710
00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:54,340
You shouldn't be talking about how how we

1711
00:55:54,340 --> 00:55:56,019
we came up with the idea for common

1712
00:55:56,019 --> 00:55:58,184
core on a on a cocktail napkin. That

1713
00:55:58,184 --> 00:55:59,485
you're you're not Google

1714
00:55:59,945 --> 00:56:02,344
developing search engines on your cocktail, and that

1715
00:56:02,344 --> 00:56:04,765
was the the greatest business plan ever. You're

1716
00:56:05,144 --> 00:56:05,644
destroying

1717
00:56:06,105 --> 00:56:09,465
an entire generation of children who are scared

1718
00:56:09,465 --> 00:56:11,005
and terrified of math

1719
00:56:12,030 --> 00:56:14,989
because you've made it impossible for them to

1720
00:56:14,989 --> 00:56:16,829
figure it out. Meanwhile, you find the videos

1721
00:56:16,829 --> 00:56:18,269
of the peep the kids in China that

1722
00:56:18,269 --> 00:56:19,949
are working on their dry erase board and

1723
00:56:19,949 --> 00:56:21,949
they can solve it in, like, four seconds.

1724
00:56:21,949 --> 00:56:23,789
They answer and then you've got American kids

1725
00:56:23,789 --> 00:56:26,030
going one, two, three, you know, counting on

1726
00:56:26,030 --> 00:56:29,195
their on their fingers. It's it's embarrassing, and

1727
00:56:29,195 --> 00:56:29,695
it's,

1728
00:56:30,235 --> 00:56:32,235
that's a it's it it should be viewed

1729
00:56:32,235 --> 00:56:33,375
as a crime against,

1730
00:56:34,474 --> 00:56:36,735
against our children. But, unfortunately,

1731
00:56:37,035 --> 00:56:38,974
Bill Gates spends a lot of money on

1732
00:56:39,195 --> 00:56:40,015
on PR

1733
00:56:40,989 --> 00:56:42,349
and, you know, reminding everybody that the MS

1734
00:56:42,349 --> 00:56:43,010
and MSNBC

1735
00:56:43,390 --> 00:56:44,289
stands for Microsoft,

1736
00:56:44,670 --> 00:56:45,869
you know, and that was a deal that

1737
00:56:45,869 --> 00:56:46,849
they put in place,

1738
00:56:47,390 --> 00:56:49,630
a long time ago since expired, but I

1739
00:56:49,630 --> 00:56:51,890
think the the sentiment still remains.

1740
00:56:52,535 --> 00:56:54,135
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's it's the we

1741
00:56:54,215 --> 00:56:55,175
I mean, I haven't talked about this in

1742
00:56:55,175 --> 00:56:56,614
a while, but we used to talk a

1743
00:56:56,614 --> 00:56:58,934
lot about the the, like, deliberate dumbing down

1744
00:56:58,934 --> 00:57:00,695
of this country, you know, whether through the

1745
00:57:00,695 --> 00:57:02,954
schooling system, the Prussian based, you know, automaton

1746
00:57:03,015 --> 00:57:04,775
based school system, or any number of other

1747
00:57:04,775 --> 00:57:07,019
things where, you know, we have been clearly

1748
00:57:07,099 --> 00:57:08,619
I mean, my first thought a long time

1749
00:57:08,619 --> 00:57:10,940
ago and still obviously stands is dumber people

1750
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:12,780
are easier to control. That makes sense to

1751
00:57:12,780 --> 00:57:14,219
me. You know? But it's hard not to

1752
00:57:14,219 --> 00:57:15,900
see, as I was talking about earlier, that

1753
00:57:15,900 --> 00:57:18,619
all these things converge around very clear agendas

1754
00:57:18,619 --> 00:57:20,800
that, you know, like like, from the Republican

1755
00:57:20,860 --> 00:57:22,394
side of it, and rightly so, we should

1756
00:57:22,394 --> 00:57:24,795
be on guard and considering any foreign government

1757
00:57:24,795 --> 00:57:26,635
trying to do what we're seeing today, that

1758
00:57:26,635 --> 00:57:28,474
the Republican side of this had has long

1759
00:57:28,474 --> 00:57:30,155
been going, ew, China is trying to infiltrate

1760
00:57:30,155 --> 00:57:31,914
our country. Right? And so it's interesting that

1761
00:57:31,914 --> 00:57:33,035
for the first time in a long time,

1762
00:57:33,035 --> 00:57:35,055
we've got the most evidence I've ever seen

1763
00:57:35,550 --> 00:57:38,030
of of of foreign influence, and it obviously

1764
00:57:38,030 --> 00:57:39,789
just doesn't get discussed because it's the wrong

1765
00:57:39,789 --> 00:57:41,550
entity. You know? So I I just wonder,

1766
00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:43,710
just pointing that out, whether these things have

1767
00:57:43,710 --> 00:57:45,630
been long term agendas to sort of, you

1768
00:57:45,630 --> 00:57:47,309
know, destroy this country. Because, I mean, I

1769
00:57:47,309 --> 00:57:49,150
think right now it's worth pointing out that

1770
00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:51,614
the Israeli government, and at least some of

1771
00:57:51,614 --> 00:57:54,335
the more fanatical elements, are openly discussing sort

1772
00:57:54,335 --> 00:57:55,454
of the fall of the West and the

1773
00:57:55,454 --> 00:57:56,974
end times coming on. I mean, there are

1774
00:57:56,974 --> 00:57:57,635
people like,

1775
00:57:58,414 --> 00:58:00,434
Waltz and others in The US Administration

1776
00:58:00,894 --> 00:58:03,375
are, like, are are religious Zionists. Like, they're

1777
00:58:03,375 --> 00:58:05,289
obsessive about the end times, and that means

1778
00:58:05,289 --> 00:58:07,289
they have the mindset that this country, the

1779
00:58:07,289 --> 00:58:09,289
West, has to basically be brought down for

1780
00:58:09,289 --> 00:58:10,889
this to end up happening. And they're I

1781
00:58:10,889 --> 00:58:12,809
mean, I just it's lunacy to understand that

1782
00:58:12,809 --> 00:58:14,329
those people are in positions of power right

1783
00:58:14,329 --> 00:58:15,769
now. So that all comes to the point

1784
00:58:15,769 --> 00:58:17,130
about whether or not this might add to

1785
00:58:17,130 --> 00:58:18,489
that. Maybe there's a reason this is going

1786
00:58:18,489 --> 00:58:20,089
that direction. I just always think that's worth

1787
00:58:20,089 --> 00:58:22,578
pointing out. You know? Very alarming stuff. Well,

1788
00:58:22,578 --> 00:58:24,682
if you if you wanted to destroy a

1789
00:58:24,682 --> 00:58:26,786
nation, you would you would do it in

1790
00:58:26,786 --> 00:58:29,152
in a you know, it's not the the

1791
00:58:29,152 --> 00:58:31,256
days of dropping a a nuclear bomb on

1792
00:58:31,256 --> 00:58:33,360
a country to destroy it. That's that's antiquated.

1793
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,599
You you would do it from inside. You

1794
00:58:35,599 --> 00:58:36,500
would you would

1795
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,559
you would do you know, you could

1796
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:42,079
people could go watch those Yuri Bezmenov interviews

1797
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:44,160
or those speeches that he gives. You listen

1798
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,795
to the you know, back in the eighties.

1799
00:58:46,355 --> 00:58:48,835
It's fascinating. You you you see that there

1800
00:58:48,835 --> 00:58:50,614
is a a plan for ideological

1801
00:58:50,914 --> 00:58:51,414
subversion,

1802
00:58:52,194 --> 00:58:52,994
that that,

1803
00:58:53,635 --> 00:58:54,614
that has been

1804
00:58:55,954 --> 00:58:58,019
run on America for a very long time.

1805
00:58:58,099 --> 00:59:00,980
And and you once you understand how it

1806
00:59:00,980 --> 00:59:02,659
can happen, you take a look at the

1807
00:59:02,659 --> 00:59:04,820
the evidence that Besanov and people like that

1808
00:59:04,820 --> 00:59:06,840
layout, you just go, oh, boy. I mean,

1809
00:59:07,140 --> 00:59:08,579
they might have run this on us on

1810
00:59:09,140 --> 00:59:11,304
they might have given us two two full

1811
00:59:11,304 --> 00:59:12,985
revolutions. Right? He says, well, you need twenty

1812
00:59:12,985 --> 00:59:14,664
years to it's like, well, maybe they've done

1813
00:59:14,664 --> 00:59:16,585
it twice in the last four years. It

1814
00:59:16,585 --> 00:59:19,005
certainly feels like that. Yeah. I agree.

1815
00:59:19,465 --> 00:59:21,625
Well, one last point on the partisan side

1816
00:59:21,625 --> 00:59:23,065
of this, and we feel the things to

1817
00:59:23,065 --> 00:59:25,224
to wanna touch on, is the Elon Musk

1818
00:59:25,224 --> 00:59:27,110
point. Now I just I just wanna show

1819
00:59:27,110 --> 00:59:29,110
the the caption Elizabeth Warren shared, but I

1820
00:59:29,110 --> 00:59:31,269
think it's interesting the the, you know, the

1821
00:59:31,269 --> 00:59:33,269
partisan game in all this. And and Elon

1822
00:59:33,269 --> 00:59:34,390
Musk, if you I'm I don't know. I'm

1823
00:59:34,469 --> 00:59:35,910
I think you've probably seen that he is

1824
00:59:36,070 --> 00:59:37,590
well, first, he he kinda floated. He was

1825
00:59:37,590 --> 00:59:39,989
backing away from politics, but now he posted

1826
00:59:39,989 --> 00:59:41,450
officially. He says, as my scheduled

1827
00:59:41,885 --> 00:59:44,045
time as a special government employee comes to

1828
00:59:44,045 --> 00:59:45,484
an end, I would like to thank Donald

1829
00:59:45,484 --> 00:59:47,484
Trump for the opportunity to reduce wasteful spending.

1830
00:59:47,484 --> 00:59:49,025
Weirdly enough, he just recently

1831
00:59:49,565 --> 00:59:52,144
stated that Trump's big bill

1832
00:59:52,605 --> 00:59:54,525
undermines what he did with those. It's all

1833
00:59:54,525 --> 00:59:56,045
fascinating to me. And who knows what the

1834
00:59:56,045 --> 00:59:57,929
agenda is? That's kinda one of your reading

1835
00:59:57,929 --> 00:59:59,530
the tea leaves here. You know? So Elon

1836
00:59:59,530 --> 01:00:01,609
Musk leaving, what does that mean for Doge?

1837
01:00:01,609 --> 01:00:03,210
What do you think the whole plan was?

1838
01:00:03,210 --> 01:00:04,809
Did did they did they fail? Is this

1839
01:00:04,809 --> 01:00:06,090
trying to get Musk out of the way

1840
01:00:06,090 --> 01:00:07,849
because he's destroying it and making it all

1841
01:00:07,849 --> 01:00:09,130
look stupid? I mean, you know, what do

1842
01:00:09,130 --> 01:00:11,130
you think? Warren simply said good riddance, but

1843
01:00:11,130 --> 01:00:12,614
Musk isn't off the hook for his chaos

1844
01:00:12,614 --> 01:00:14,074
and corruption. We must hold him accountable,

1845
01:00:14,375 --> 01:00:15,894
which I agree with. But the funny thing

1846
01:00:15,894 --> 01:00:17,655
is is Warren and Trump and, you know,

1847
01:00:17,655 --> 01:00:19,255
Pelosi and all of them are all guilty

1848
01:00:19,255 --> 01:00:21,035
for a thousand different things. So, yeah, accountability

1849
01:00:21,094 --> 01:00:22,375
would be great, but let's start from all

1850
01:00:22,375 --> 01:00:23,655
of them. But, anyway, what are your thoughts

1851
01:00:23,655 --> 01:00:25,275
on that? Elon Musk leaving and everything.

1852
01:00:25,910 --> 01:00:28,469
With regard to Elizabeth Warren, every accusation is

1853
01:00:28,469 --> 01:00:30,469
a confession. Yeah. So, I mean, she she

1854
01:00:30,469 --> 01:00:32,309
is telling on herself here in a big

1855
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:35,110
way. I I think Elon accomplished I mean,

1856
01:00:35,110 --> 01:00:37,050
I I guess the question is,

1857
01:00:37,590 --> 01:00:39,289
what does success look like?

1858
01:00:39,664 --> 01:00:41,824
Because he got all his PayPal guys in

1859
01:00:41,824 --> 01:00:43,925
there. They're all working on a

1860
01:00:45,344 --> 01:00:46,005
AI government?

1861
01:00:46,385 --> 01:00:49,425
Life enslavement program for humanity. I mean, it

1862
01:00:49,984 --> 01:00:52,864
so he he went in and, you know,

1863
01:00:52,864 --> 01:00:55,219
put his had his nerds go in there

1864
01:00:55,219 --> 01:00:57,880
and and and hook up their programs to,

1865
01:00:58,420 --> 01:00:59,800
a bunch of different departments.

1866
01:01:00,260 --> 01:01:02,339
So I I don't I don't know I

1867
01:01:02,339 --> 01:01:04,579
don't know what his plan was going in.

1868
01:01:04,579 --> 01:01:06,820
I mean, I think I think everybody sort

1869
01:01:06,820 --> 01:01:08,925
of knows or maybe if they were being

1870
01:01:08,925 --> 01:01:09,905
honest with themselves,

1871
01:01:10,204 --> 01:01:11,265
a Donald Trump,

1872
01:01:11,644 --> 01:01:14,045
Elon Musk marriage is gonna end in divorce

1873
01:01:14,045 --> 01:01:15,644
at some point. It just it's just a

1874
01:01:15,644 --> 01:01:17,644
matter of time. Those are two personalities that

1875
01:01:17,644 --> 01:01:19,805
I don't think would would go well with

1876
01:01:19,805 --> 01:01:21,565
each other That's me too. Over the long

1877
01:01:21,565 --> 01:01:22,065
term.

1878
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:24,559
I think that there's maybe a case to

1879
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,160
be made that Elon took one look and

1880
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:26,660
said,

1881
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:31,599
you know, like, the waste is everywhere. Yeah.

1882
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,300
The fraud is overwhelming.

1883
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:36,160
It's almost hard the the hardest part is

1884
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:38,074
knowing where to even start with all of

1885
01:01:38,074 --> 01:01:39,694
this. Mhmm. And yet

1886
01:01:40,315 --> 01:01:41,755
and and the goal with the goal being,

1887
01:01:41,755 --> 01:01:44,074
let's reduce the spending here. And then the

1888
01:01:44,074 --> 01:01:45,755
next thing you know, he the the big

1889
01:01:45,755 --> 01:01:47,755
beautiful bill comes out and it's it's way

1890
01:01:47,755 --> 01:01:49,375
more spending than they even thought.

1891
01:01:50,010 --> 01:01:51,769
I would throw my hands up and go,

1892
01:01:51,769 --> 01:01:53,369
good luck. You know what? You guys are

1893
01:01:53,369 --> 01:01:54,730
on your own. If I were in in

1894
01:01:54,730 --> 01:01:56,250
a situation like that, if you brought me

1895
01:01:56,250 --> 01:01:58,570
in to actually fix it, now case could

1896
01:01:58,570 --> 01:01:59,849
be made that they did not bring him

1897
01:01:59,849 --> 01:02:02,184
in to actually fix it. But but if

1898
01:02:02,184 --> 01:02:04,505
if you believed that you were being brought

1899
01:02:04,505 --> 01:02:06,585
in to actually fix it because you're smart

1900
01:02:06,585 --> 01:02:08,264
and organized and you know how to do

1901
01:02:08,264 --> 01:02:09,704
these things, and then you get in there

1902
01:02:09,704 --> 01:02:11,464
and you say, this is what I do

1903
01:02:11,464 --> 01:02:12,684
at all my other companies.

1904
01:02:13,065 --> 01:02:16,369
We identify waste. We send emails to see

1905
01:02:16,369 --> 01:02:18,849
if people are actually really working remotely or

1906
01:02:18,849 --> 01:02:20,210
if they're just deleting their you know what

1907
01:02:20,210 --> 01:02:21,730
I mean? You gotta respond. Tell me what

1908
01:02:21,730 --> 01:02:23,329
five things you did this week. That was

1909
01:02:23,410 --> 01:02:25,250
All these things. You you you lay out

1910
01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:27,174
all these things. You and you go, there's

1911
01:02:27,174 --> 01:02:29,414
a ton of inefficiency here. We can cut

1912
01:02:29,414 --> 01:02:31,654
all these people. We can cut all these

1913
01:02:31,654 --> 01:02:32,154
departments,

1914
01:02:32,534 --> 01:02:34,454
divisions, everything. We can get rid of all

1915
01:02:34,454 --> 01:02:36,295
of them, and then we can,

1916
01:02:36,775 --> 01:02:38,454
button all this stuff up. And and then

1917
01:02:38,454 --> 01:02:40,869
your boss goes, that's great. Thanks for working

1918
01:02:40,869 --> 01:02:42,309
on all that for me. We'll make sure

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01:02:42,309 --> 01:02:44,710
to do none of this. You go, then

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01:02:44,710 --> 01:02:46,949
why am I here? Right? That would be

1921
01:02:46,949 --> 01:02:48,869
my response would be, then what am I

1922
01:02:48,869 --> 01:02:51,429
doing here? But maybe what he's doing maybe

1923
01:02:51,429 --> 01:02:54,204
he's already, you know, there there's nobody saying

1924
01:02:54,204 --> 01:02:56,125
that he only had one mission there. Maybe

1925
01:02:56,125 --> 01:02:58,125
his job was to reduce waste, but while

1926
01:02:58,125 --> 01:02:58,625
also

1927
01:02:59,244 --> 01:03:00,545
enabling this technocracy

1928
01:03:00,844 --> 01:03:02,925
that's coming in from Silicon Valley that is

1929
01:03:02,925 --> 01:03:03,425
extremely

1930
01:03:04,204 --> 01:03:07,184
dangerous. And, yes, you can get rid of

1931
01:03:09,110 --> 01:03:11,989
the Department of Education, fire everybody there, fire

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everybody at USAID

1933
01:03:13,590 --> 01:03:15,930
and and and all these groups and

1934
01:03:16,869 --> 01:03:18,809
and and take a victory lap for that.

1935
01:03:19,269 --> 01:03:21,369
But what kind of victory is it? Because

1936
01:03:21,430 --> 01:03:23,690
because you brought in all the technocrats

1937
01:03:24,815 --> 01:03:26,114
that you all know

1938
01:03:26,574 --> 01:03:29,554
those people are unnecessary and they are redundant

1939
01:03:29,694 --> 01:03:30,914
in this system anyway.

1940
01:03:31,454 --> 01:03:33,554
We don't need it's not so much that

1941
01:03:33,694 --> 01:03:35,694
we're gonna remove these agencies and then all

1942
01:03:35,694 --> 01:03:37,134
those things are gonna go away. We're just

1943
01:03:37,134 --> 01:03:38,190
gonna automate it.

1944
01:03:38,670 --> 01:03:40,109
We're just gonna make sure that I don't

1945
01:03:40,109 --> 01:03:42,190
even need the approval of all these human

1946
01:03:42,190 --> 01:03:43,170
beings to do,

1947
01:03:43,789 --> 01:03:45,630
x, y, and z. We've got the system

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01:03:45,630 --> 01:03:47,630
in place that'll do it for us. So

1949
01:03:47,630 --> 01:03:50,190
so I think that you could you could

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01:03:50,190 --> 01:03:51,329
sort of disguise

1951
01:03:52,215 --> 01:03:52,954
the automation

1952
01:03:53,735 --> 01:03:56,454
of the government, the pivot into an AI

1953
01:03:56,454 --> 01:03:56,954
government.

1954
01:03:57,494 --> 01:04:00,135
You could disguise that by saying, we're getting

1955
01:04:00,135 --> 01:04:01,434
rid of all these government

1956
01:04:01,894 --> 01:04:03,195
workers who are

1957
01:04:03,494 --> 01:04:06,089
not showing up for their shifts or doing

1958
01:04:06,089 --> 01:04:09,069
remote work. They're not doing anything. They're lazy.

1959
01:04:09,130 --> 01:04:11,049
Nothing gets done. And there'd be a real

1960
01:04:11,049 --> 01:04:13,210
appetite for that. Right? Let's fire all these

1961
01:04:13,210 --> 01:04:14,969
people. But it and and you could be

1962
01:04:14,969 --> 01:04:17,049
justified in doing that because you could say,

1963
01:04:17,049 --> 01:04:18,724
look. This is they don't do anything. They're

1964
01:04:18,724 --> 01:04:21,305
useless eaters, you know, as the globalists call

1965
01:04:21,605 --> 01:04:23,364
us. These people are all useless. Let's get

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01:04:23,364 --> 01:04:24,585
rid of them. Great.

1967
01:04:25,285 --> 01:04:25,785
But

1968
01:04:26,485 --> 01:04:28,565
the problem is you just have now created

1969
01:04:28,565 --> 01:04:31,000
a new problem, which is it's all create

1970
01:04:31,180 --> 01:04:32,659
it's all controlled tech

1971
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:36,559
the control was centralized into the hands of

1972
01:04:36,559 --> 01:04:37,300
these technocrats

1973
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:39,679
who wrote the program and he who writes

1974
01:04:39,679 --> 01:04:40,420
the code

1975
01:04:40,719 --> 01:04:42,239
runs it. Right? So if they know how

1976
01:04:42,239 --> 01:04:42,980
to do it,

1977
01:04:43,324 --> 01:04:43,824
then,

1978
01:04:44,444 --> 01:04:47,005
then you haven't necessarily solved the problem. You've

1979
01:04:47,005 --> 01:04:49,344
just created a a bigger problem, which is

1980
01:04:49,404 --> 01:04:50,944
now there's no humans

1981
01:04:51,964 --> 01:04:54,764
overseeing, no checks and balances, no good guys

1982
01:04:54,764 --> 01:04:56,284
that might be trapped in a bad system.

1983
01:04:56,284 --> 01:04:57,264
There's just nobody.

1984
01:04:58,230 --> 01:05:00,329
And the system is run by computers,

1985
01:05:00,710 --> 01:05:02,869
and that, of course, is something that they've

1986
01:05:02,869 --> 01:05:05,989
dreamed of since the Technocracy movement almost a

1987
01:05:05,989 --> 01:05:07,050
hundred years ago.

1988
01:05:07,590 --> 01:05:09,989
They're they're they're making moves, you know, to

1989
01:05:09,989 --> 01:05:12,684
when we talking about Greenland, talking about Canada,

1990
01:05:12,684 --> 01:05:13,425
talking about

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01:05:13,885 --> 01:05:15,965
all of, you know, connecting these together and

1992
01:05:15,965 --> 01:05:17,324
you go, I wonder where they got that

1993
01:05:17,324 --> 01:05:18,144
idea from.

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01:05:19,005 --> 01:05:19,505
Technocracy,

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01:05:20,045 --> 01:05:21,005
1932,

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01:05:21,005 --> 01:05:23,085
maybe. I don't know. You go look through

1997
01:05:23,085 --> 01:05:24,710
the book and you go, oh, wait a

1998
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:26,809
second. It looks like they're running this playbook

1999
01:05:26,869 --> 01:05:29,190
a hundred years later, you know, when it's

2000
01:05:29,190 --> 01:05:30,010
actually feasible.

2001
01:05:30,469 --> 01:05:33,349
Right. Yeah. Well, I mean, so, obviously, I

2002
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:34,089
mean, I agree.

2003
01:05:34,469 --> 01:05:36,230
What you said there is obviously one of

2004
01:05:36,230 --> 01:05:38,175
the possible, you know, mindsets. Who really knows

2005
01:05:38,175 --> 01:05:39,775
what he thinks and what his intentions are.

2006
01:05:39,775 --> 01:05:41,695
Right? That's that's but what's interesting to me

2007
01:05:41,695 --> 01:05:43,235
is, like, from my perspective,

2008
01:05:44,175 --> 01:05:46,015
I don't the second part about the AI

2009
01:05:46,015 --> 01:05:48,414
government, I think, is flatly obvious. I think

2010
01:05:48,414 --> 01:05:50,414
they're now actually rolling this out. We already

2011
01:05:50,414 --> 01:05:52,289
have the GSA iBot they're using in the

2012
01:05:52,289 --> 01:05:53,349
general service administration.

2013
01:05:53,730 --> 01:05:55,730
I'll play let's go next to the AI

2014
01:05:55,730 --> 01:05:57,410
government point since we talked about that in

2015
01:05:57,410 --> 01:05:58,630
one of our last discussions

2016
01:05:58,930 --> 01:06:00,369
and how this plays out with the bill,

2017
01:06:00,369 --> 01:06:01,430
which is very interesting.

2018
01:06:01,809 --> 01:06:03,910
And you should probably seen the no

2019
01:06:04,425 --> 01:06:06,105
oversight on AI for ten years, which is

2020
01:06:06,105 --> 01:06:08,265
just mind blowing that anybody think but there's

2021
01:06:08,265 --> 01:06:09,625
more than that that somebody's pointing out. I'll

2022
01:06:09,625 --> 01:06:11,485
show you in a second. But first, Elon.

2023
01:06:11,945 --> 01:06:14,025
My mindset is that I don't think he

2024
01:06:14,025 --> 01:06:15,465
was coming with I don't think you know,

2025
01:06:15,465 --> 01:06:17,400
the way that's framing, which is certainly possible,

2026
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,839
is that he was almost used in a

2027
01:06:18,839 --> 01:06:20,280
way. Right? That they he came in with

2028
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,440
this intention to do this and reduce waste

2029
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:23,960
and has now realized that was never the

2030
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,960
plan, but I don't feel that's the case.

2031
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:27,880
I think Elon Musk, if not more than

2032
01:06:27,880 --> 01:06:29,320
Trump, the rest, is one of the main

2033
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,839
players in all of this. And I think

2034
01:06:30,839 --> 01:06:33,215
that he is like, the idea was to

2035
01:06:33,215 --> 01:06:35,055
frame this as cutting waste so that you

2036
01:06:35,055 --> 01:06:37,775
had the excuse. Always blaming the Democrats or

2037
01:06:37,775 --> 01:06:40,114
somebody else, a holdover from the other side,

2038
01:06:40,175 --> 01:06:41,934
why it didn't happen. Oh, we really wanted

2039
01:06:41,934 --> 01:06:43,135
to, you know, that kind of thing. And

2040
01:06:43,135 --> 01:06:44,574
then, of course, falling back to the true

2041
01:06:44,574 --> 01:06:45,855
trillion of 150,000,000,000,

2042
01:06:45,855 --> 01:06:47,055
but then the point is you could prove

2043
01:06:47,055 --> 01:06:48,549
that even that wasn't true. You know? I

2044
01:06:48,549 --> 01:06:49,909
mean and I I went through this not

2045
01:06:49,909 --> 01:06:51,589
just because reports were coming out. I saw

2046
01:06:51,589 --> 01:06:53,589
this myself even before it being reported on

2047
01:06:53,589 --> 01:06:55,829
corporate media. And, of course, the overarching point

2048
01:06:55,829 --> 01:06:57,929
that you can show all the different manipulations

2049
01:06:57,989 --> 01:06:59,429
that were happening, all the different I mean,

2050
01:06:59,429 --> 01:07:01,030
there's all these weird things that were happening

2051
01:07:01,030 --> 01:07:02,114
in the background. And at the end of

2052
01:07:02,114 --> 01:07:04,355
the day, as we know, we've now spent

2053
01:07:04,355 --> 01:07:06,034
more the government has spent more to this

2054
01:07:06,034 --> 01:07:08,054
point than the previous administration. So

2055
01:07:08,594 --> 01:07:11,074
objectively, regardless of the narrative, they failed, which

2056
01:07:11,074 --> 01:07:12,914
is obvious in regard but the point being

2057
01:07:12,914 --> 01:07:14,460
made today is that that wasn't his fault.

2058
01:07:14,460 --> 01:07:16,460
That was the Republicans in congress seems to

2059
01:07:16,460 --> 01:07:17,980
be the partisan argument right now. You know,

2060
01:07:17,980 --> 01:07:19,579
the bill and whatever else, they're the ones

2061
01:07:19,579 --> 01:07:21,260
that didn't let this happen or allowed this

2062
01:07:21,260 --> 01:07:22,619
to go more spending or the you know,

2063
01:07:22,619 --> 01:07:25,019
all the different arguments. To me, I think

2064
01:07:25,019 --> 01:07:26,780
that was always the plan, which all I

2065
01:07:26,780 --> 01:07:28,460
want people out listening is just consider both

2066
01:07:28,460 --> 01:07:29,994
of those, right? Whether or not this is

2067
01:07:29,994 --> 01:07:32,155
something that, you know, spun out, which does

2068
01:07:32,155 --> 01:07:33,594
seem likely in a lot of ways that

2069
01:07:33,835 --> 01:07:35,195
you and I think talked about the same,

2070
01:07:35,195 --> 01:07:36,574
about whether these two big

2071
01:07:36,954 --> 01:07:39,594
personalities would, I mean, quite obviously butt heads

2072
01:07:39,594 --> 01:07:40,954
at some point, which Trump seemed to do

2073
01:07:40,954 --> 01:07:42,690
with everybody in his circle at some point.

2074
01:07:42,769 --> 01:07:45,170
And so, big alpha males in the circle

2075
01:07:45,170 --> 01:07:47,089
are gonna have that kind of problem. But

2076
01:07:47,089 --> 01:07:48,690
I think that he was involved with building

2077
01:07:48,690 --> 01:07:50,449
out this AI direction, and my gut tells

2078
01:07:50,449 --> 01:07:52,929
me he's being pushed aside because he's too

2079
01:07:52,929 --> 01:07:53,429
conspicuous.

2080
01:07:53,889 --> 01:07:54,389
Because,

2081
01:07:54,785 --> 01:07:57,125
you know, as Matt Ehret discusses, the technocrats

2082
01:07:57,184 --> 01:07:58,805
are now stepping back out of the shadows.

2083
01:07:58,945 --> 01:08:00,385
And I think they but maybe a little

2084
01:08:00,385 --> 01:08:01,664
bit too quick, and maybe Elon was a

2085
01:08:01,664 --> 01:08:03,184
bad choice. You know, that that's the thought

2086
01:08:03,184 --> 01:08:05,585
process. Either way, I think, overall, it's pretty

2087
01:08:05,585 --> 01:08:07,664
clear that this is going in a dangerous

2088
01:08:07,664 --> 01:08:09,589
direction in regard to technocracy. And so do

2089
01:08:09,589 --> 01:08:10,869
you have any comments on the Elon point

2090
01:08:10,869 --> 01:08:12,070
before we go to the AI point in

2091
01:08:12,070 --> 01:08:13,429
case you wanna add some to that? Because,

2092
01:08:13,429 --> 01:08:15,269
you know, it we can't know for sure.

2093
01:08:15,269 --> 01:08:16,729
It's all about what we can see.

2094
01:08:17,109 --> 01:08:18,869
Yeah. It does kinda remind me of the

2095
01:08:18,869 --> 01:08:21,109
magician who's who's asking you to look at

2096
01:08:21,109 --> 01:08:23,265
what he's got in his hand, which is

2097
01:08:23,265 --> 01:08:25,345
Elon. Come on. Pay attention to Elon while

2098
01:08:25,345 --> 01:08:26,945
there's something going on. You know, you you

2099
01:08:26,945 --> 01:08:28,704
really need to be watching what he's doing

2100
01:08:28,704 --> 01:08:30,305
with his other hand because it's somewhere else.

2101
01:08:30,305 --> 01:08:32,784
So so they know that the cameras will

2102
01:08:32,784 --> 01:08:35,364
follow that. Elon's obviously a polarizing figure,

2103
01:08:36,079 --> 01:08:38,239
for a variety of reasons. He's been embraced

2104
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:38,979
by the right,

2105
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,279
as as some guy who's coming in to

2106
01:08:41,279 --> 01:08:42,260
to save everything.

2107
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:43,460
And now,

2108
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:45,680
yeah, I think I think a case can

2109
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:46,739
be made that that

2110
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:48,739
look. If you want to

2111
01:08:49,875 --> 01:08:53,394
push through this technocratic agenda, you gotta have

2112
01:08:53,394 --> 01:08:55,554
some technocrats in there who know how to

2113
01:08:55,554 --> 01:08:57,175
make the system work.

2114
01:08:57,554 --> 01:09:00,675
The problem is you've got a guy who

2115
01:09:00,675 --> 01:09:02,354
sucks all the oxygen out of the room,

2116
01:09:02,354 --> 01:09:04,320
an Elon Musk, who draws a ton of

2117
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,560
attention. And as you to your point, maybe

2118
01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:07,780
too much attention

2119
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:10,079
to all of this at at the same

2120
01:09:10,079 --> 01:09:11,119
time. So,

2121
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:11,840
he's,

2122
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,199
he'll be, you know there'll be another one.

2123
01:09:15,199 --> 01:09:17,199
There'll be another guy that gets sucked into

2124
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:18,100
Trump's orbit

2125
01:09:18,645 --> 01:09:21,204
a year from now and his buddy buddy

2126
01:09:21,204 --> 01:09:23,284
and his his best friend and talks about

2127
01:09:23,284 --> 01:09:24,724
how he loves him, and then and then

2128
01:09:24,724 --> 01:09:26,564
he'll be discarded as well because that's what

2129
01:09:26,564 --> 01:09:28,585
Trump does. Even if he throws you overboard

2130
01:09:28,645 --> 01:09:30,965
early on, he may swing back by in

2131
01:09:30,965 --> 01:09:33,270
his boat and rescue you like Marco Rubio.

2132
01:09:33,270 --> 01:09:33,670
I mean, he he

2133
01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:36,470
Right. Obliterated that guy in a in in

2134
01:09:36,470 --> 01:09:38,710
debates and called him little Marco and, you

2135
01:09:38,710 --> 01:09:41,109
know, and insulted him and rightly so, made

2136
01:09:41,109 --> 01:09:42,789
fun of how he drinks. You know, he's

2137
01:09:42,789 --> 01:09:45,590
drinking water during his debate. All the crazy

2138
01:09:45,590 --> 01:09:48,890
stuff. Right? Just humiliated the guy and then

2139
01:09:49,264 --> 01:09:50,885
makes him a secretary of state.

2140
01:09:51,185 --> 01:09:53,264
And more. Yeah. Got what? Three jobs now?

2141
01:09:53,264 --> 01:09:56,064
More. Exactly. Yeah. Well, yeah, I agree. I

2142
01:09:56,064 --> 01:09:57,505
I think it's interesting to see that that

2143
01:09:57,505 --> 01:09:59,664
it's, you know, that what's that speaks to

2144
01:09:59,664 --> 01:10:01,824
me to there there's a larger thing at

2145
01:10:01,824 --> 01:10:03,529
play. Right? That they're willing to put aside

2146
01:10:03,529 --> 01:10:04,890
their hatred for each other as long as

2147
01:10:04,890 --> 01:10:06,329
they get tapped by the right people. You

2148
01:10:06,329 --> 01:10:07,930
know? And I think that's whether that's outside

2149
01:10:07,930 --> 01:10:09,770
this country or the same old people we

2150
01:10:09,770 --> 01:10:11,050
talk about in this country. You know, the

2151
01:10:11,050 --> 01:10:13,130
wealthy families or maybe it's Palantir for all

2152
01:10:13,130 --> 01:10:14,489
we know. You know? It's like, who knows?

2153
01:10:14,489 --> 01:10:15,689
But I think it shows you like you

2154
01:10:15,689 --> 01:10:17,725
said, that's the black hole example. There's something

2155
01:10:17,725 --> 01:10:19,404
doing that. Like like, I mean, if you

2156
01:10:19,404 --> 01:10:21,824
look at the whole inner circle, from Gabbard

2157
01:10:21,885 --> 01:10:22,385
to

2158
01:10:22,844 --> 01:10:23,344
RK

2159
01:10:23,645 --> 01:10:25,824
to Vance to I mean, all of them.

2160
01:10:25,885 --> 01:10:27,805
Right before this, we're like, Trump's an idiot.

2161
01:10:27,805 --> 01:10:29,725
He's be you know, he's blustering and he's

2162
01:10:29,725 --> 01:10:30,925
always lying. And then all of a sudden,

2163
01:10:30,925 --> 01:10:32,045
we're like, now we're the best team. You

2164
01:10:32,045 --> 01:10:34,020
know? That shows you something. So on on

2165
01:10:34,020 --> 01:10:35,220
the point of AI, the reason I think

2166
01:10:35,220 --> 01:10:36,659
this is so relevant, and this is what

2167
01:10:36,659 --> 01:10:38,020
I might the article the show we did

2168
01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:40,180
on this, the impending future of AI government,

2169
01:10:40,180 --> 01:10:41,619
but the point being, but who controls the

2170
01:10:41,619 --> 01:10:42,979
AI? You know, that really does make a

2171
01:10:42,979 --> 01:10:44,819
difference. The reason this is relevant to me

2172
01:10:44,819 --> 01:10:46,100
is what we just talked about is, okay.

2173
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:47,619
So if the consideration is that Elon

2174
01:10:48,274 --> 01:10:49,795
you know, like, we both agree, it seems,

2175
01:10:49,795 --> 01:10:51,715
that he is a major part of rolling

2176
01:10:51,715 --> 01:10:54,454
out this technocratic agenda, which is just transparent.

2177
01:10:54,594 --> 01:10:56,194
It is the great reset from a red

2178
01:10:56,194 --> 01:10:58,835
republican side, rebuilding back better in the same

2179
01:10:58,835 --> 01:11:00,274
way. You know, it's the same thing, in

2180
01:11:00,274 --> 01:11:02,130
my opinion, but I think that's obvious. And

2181
01:11:02,130 --> 01:11:03,810
so if we know that or if we

2182
01:11:03,810 --> 01:11:05,970
agree that Elon was that was his agenda

2183
01:11:05,970 --> 01:11:07,189
to help roll this out,

2184
01:11:08,050 --> 01:11:09,970
and the idea is that this bill, which

2185
01:11:09,970 --> 01:11:12,689
will I'll play this clip next, is driving

2186
01:11:12,689 --> 01:11:15,570
that into reality, the AI government, the AI

2187
01:11:15,570 --> 01:11:17,475
oversight, that that whole thing. And then that's

2188
01:11:17,555 --> 01:11:19,715
the argument for why Doge didn't succeed the

2189
01:11:19,715 --> 01:11:22,515
bill. It seems as if it's a circular

2190
01:11:22,515 --> 01:11:24,034
logic. Like, the point would be that if

2191
01:11:24,034 --> 01:11:26,195
that failed, it's because of the agenda that

2192
01:11:26,195 --> 01:11:27,395
he was a part of. You see what

2193
01:11:27,395 --> 01:11:28,755
I'm saying? And so it it seems to

2194
01:11:28,755 --> 01:11:30,914
suggest that he was never really intent on

2195
01:11:30,914 --> 01:11:32,719
doing that in the first place. But, you

2196
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:33,679
know, you tell me what you think. Let

2197
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:34,880
me play this clip first, then we can,

2198
01:11:35,119 --> 01:11:36,640
we can talk about this. This is interesting.

2199
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:38,560
This is just somebody that I saw releasing

2200
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,239
this. The point is that we all saw

2201
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:42,000
the bill about the oversight. He points to

2202
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:43,119
the bill in which is in the bill

2203
01:11:43,119 --> 01:11:44,719
you can read for yourself about the about

2204
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:45,779
the idea of,

2205
01:11:46,564 --> 01:11:48,805
you know, more GSAI bots is the most

2206
01:11:48,805 --> 01:11:50,324
objective way to put it, which just means

2207
01:11:50,324 --> 01:11:52,965
more artificial intelligence running different parts of the

2208
01:11:52,965 --> 01:11:54,885
government and then makes you wonder at what

2209
01:11:54,885 --> 01:11:56,885
point, if not already, are we just going

2210
01:11:56,885 --> 01:11:58,885
to AI government, like, as a whole. And

2211
01:11:58,885 --> 01:12:00,805
I think the whole Amy Gleason Doge thing

2212
01:12:00,805 --> 01:12:02,070
is is worth talking about. So we'll come

2213
01:12:02,070 --> 01:12:02,810
back to that.

2214
01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:04,710
Today, we're gonna go down one of the

2215
01:12:04,710 --> 01:12:06,710
largest rabbit holes I've ever found, and this

2216
01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:08,949
is the replacement of the government with AI,

2217
01:12:08,949 --> 01:12:11,750
and that's what's in this bill. Let's talk

2218
01:12:11,750 --> 01:12:12,409
about it.

2219
01:12:13,024 --> 01:12:15,185
So in section four three two zero one,

2220
01:12:15,185 --> 01:12:17,604
it talks about replacing the Department of Commerce

2221
01:12:17,664 --> 01:12:20,064
with AI. Now the question comes with, what

2222
01:12:20,064 --> 01:12:22,625
else do they replace with AI? And here's

2223
01:12:22,625 --> 01:12:24,625
where it gets really strange. It talks about

2224
01:12:24,625 --> 01:12:26,944
in this section below that no politician or

2225
01:12:26,944 --> 01:12:29,010
governing body may stop AI for the next

2226
01:12:29,010 --> 01:12:31,909
ten years or enforce any laws or regulations

2227
01:12:32,210 --> 01:12:36,689
regulating artificial intelligence models. Wow. That's Silicon Valley

2228
01:12:36,689 --> 01:12:37,590
owning the government.

2229
01:12:37,969 --> 01:12:41,109
Then we find Silicon Valley manipulating the weather.

2230
01:12:41,969 --> 01:12:43,484
Then Then it gets weirder when we find

2231
01:12:43,484 --> 01:12:46,045
AI and Silicon Valley entering the health care

2232
01:12:46,045 --> 01:12:48,284
system to control all of that, and you

2233
01:12:48,284 --> 01:12:51,244
can't sue any of these companies. Isn't that

2234
01:12:51,244 --> 01:12:51,744
odd?

2235
01:12:52,364 --> 01:12:54,204
And this kinda reminds me of the vaccine

2236
01:12:54,204 --> 01:12:56,840
protection act signed by Reagan in 1986,

2237
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,640
protecting all the vaccine companies from damages. There

2238
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,479
were so many lawsuits that they were actually

2239
01:13:01,479 --> 01:13:03,560
gonna go out of business, but the government

2240
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:04,539
protected them.

2241
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:06,600
And it gets even deeper when we find

2242
01:13:06,600 --> 01:13:08,300
Billy boy Clinton in the telecommunication

2243
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:10,984
act of 1996. He passed a bill so

2244
01:13:10,984 --> 01:13:12,345
if they put a cell phone tower in

2245
01:13:12,345 --> 01:13:13,704
front of your house, you can't sue for

2246
01:13:13,704 --> 01:13:14,445
any damages.

2247
01:13:14,824 --> 01:13:16,505
Do you see how the government is kinda

2248
01:13:16,505 --> 01:13:18,824
setting this up, and then they're gonna replace

2249
01:13:18,824 --> 01:13:20,284
the government with AI?

2250
01:13:20,664 --> 01:13:22,505
It's kinda Now aside from his which I

2251
01:13:22,505 --> 01:13:24,250
actually agree with that that's the direction. But

2252
01:13:24,250 --> 01:13:26,250
aside from his conclusion on it and maybe

2253
01:13:26,250 --> 01:13:27,869
the the weather add in,

2254
01:13:28,170 --> 01:13:29,929
I think he makes very excellent points here

2255
01:13:29,929 --> 01:13:32,010
about the kind of manufacturing idea whether the

2256
01:13:32,250 --> 01:13:34,250
like, the vaccine discussion where they just create

2257
01:13:34,250 --> 01:13:35,689
a situation where you can't sue them and

2258
01:13:35,689 --> 01:13:37,449
now they're essentially doing the same thing with

2259
01:13:37,449 --> 01:13:39,050
what may be your next government or however

2260
01:13:39,050 --> 01:13:41,244
you wanna frame that. But the overlap with

2261
01:13:41,784 --> 01:13:43,864
that help that part. And then considering that

2262
01:13:43,864 --> 01:13:46,844
Stargate is an AI health driven vaccine, you

2263
01:13:46,984 --> 01:13:49,625
know, therapeutic direction, you know, that's wild. But

2264
01:13:49,704 --> 01:13:51,385
so all those points start where you want.

2265
01:13:51,385 --> 01:13:53,005
I think that's very important stuff.

2266
01:13:53,850 --> 01:13:56,510
Your thoughts? The the ten year,

2267
01:13:57,369 --> 01:13:57,869
no,

2268
01:13:58,649 --> 01:14:01,149
ability to modify, stop, or

2269
01:14:01,609 --> 01:14:02,510
in any way,

2270
01:14:03,289 --> 01:14:05,689
Hornets AI to to to keep it in

2271
01:14:05,689 --> 01:14:08,270
line is terrifying. How is that even?

2272
01:14:11,935 --> 01:14:13,534
And and you you read that and you

2273
01:14:13,534 --> 01:14:15,395
go, I mean, I don't know a reasonable

2274
01:14:15,534 --> 01:14:17,454
person that would read that and and think

2275
01:14:17,454 --> 01:14:20,015
anything other than, woah. That sounds like a

2276
01:14:20,015 --> 01:14:22,270
really bad idea. But, of course, the government

2277
01:14:22,270 --> 01:14:24,189
is filled with bad ideas, and if and

2278
01:14:24,189 --> 01:14:25,729
and it might be the setup.

2279
01:14:26,030 --> 01:14:28,989
It might be the equivalent of that 1986

2280
01:14:28,989 --> 01:14:30,930
vaccine protection act because

2281
01:14:32,829 --> 01:14:33,570
they know

2282
01:14:34,534 --> 01:14:36,454
the they know what's really going on. They

2283
01:14:36,614 --> 01:14:39,095
the the vaccine, the pharmaceutical companies, they knew

2284
01:14:39,095 --> 01:14:40,375
what was going on. They knew they needed

2285
01:14:40,375 --> 01:14:40,875
help.

2286
01:14:41,255 --> 01:14:41,755
The

2287
01:14:42,215 --> 01:14:43,354
AI companies,

2288
01:14:44,454 --> 01:14:46,614
they can extrapolate out where this is going.

2289
01:14:46,614 --> 01:14:48,550
If you intend to be doing a lot

2290
01:14:48,550 --> 01:14:50,329
of harm to the general public,

2291
01:14:50,789 --> 01:14:53,670
then it would behoove you to set up

2292
01:14:53,670 --> 01:14:54,409
the foundation

2293
01:14:54,789 --> 01:14:55,289
beforehand

2294
01:14:55,750 --> 01:14:58,710
to immunize yourself, not in a vaccine sort

2295
01:14:58,710 --> 01:14:59,989
of way, but in a legal sort of

2296
01:14:59,989 --> 01:15:02,649
way, like, from lawsuits and the like.

2297
01:15:03,114 --> 01:15:05,835
And so I wonder if that is I

2298
01:15:05,835 --> 01:15:07,215
wonder if this is the beginning

2299
01:15:07,515 --> 01:15:08,814
of of some sort

2300
01:15:09,354 --> 01:15:11,595
of hands off my AI. You can't get

2301
01:15:11,595 --> 01:15:13,274
in there and sue. We all know that

2302
01:15:13,274 --> 01:15:14,875
there's a problem. You're I mean, there might

2303
01:15:14,875 --> 01:15:16,875
be the equivalent of a Verisk court for

2304
01:15:16,875 --> 01:15:19,000
AI. Oh, you were harmed by AI? Well,

2305
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,520
you're gonna have to jump through all these

2306
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,920
flaming hoops, and we'll settle maybe one percent

2307
01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:25,159
of the actual cases that are brought against

2308
01:15:25,159 --> 01:15:26,939
you. But, again, it'll be like the vaccines,

2309
01:15:27,079 --> 01:15:27,819
which is

2310
01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:30,679
they set the schedule where there's a you

2311
01:15:30,679 --> 01:15:32,520
know, you take eight shots over the course

2312
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:34,534
of, say, a two year period, and then

2313
01:15:34,534 --> 01:15:36,215
you come down with a with a problem,

2314
01:15:36,215 --> 01:15:37,654
and you go before the court and you

2315
01:15:37,654 --> 01:15:39,895
say, my kid has a problem because of

2316
01:15:39,895 --> 01:15:41,814
the vaccines, and they say, yes. But which

2317
01:15:41,814 --> 01:15:42,314
one?

2318
01:15:43,335 --> 01:15:45,255
You go, I don't know. It's one of

2319
01:15:45,255 --> 01:15:47,670
them. And you go, well, my client is

2320
01:15:47,670 --> 01:15:48,569
this vaccine,

2321
01:15:48,869 --> 01:15:50,789
and and I think it's reasonable that the

2322
01:15:50,789 --> 01:15:52,550
other seven may have been the ones that

2323
01:15:52,550 --> 01:15:54,470
gave your kid autism and not and not

2324
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:56,149
our clients. Right? So if you can't prove

2325
01:15:56,149 --> 01:15:58,069
which one it is, then you can't prove

2326
01:15:58,069 --> 01:15:59,989
anything and it gets thrown out. So, again,

2327
01:15:59,989 --> 01:16:01,210
in an AI world,

2328
01:16:01,734 --> 01:16:03,734
I was harmed by the AI, and I

2329
01:16:03,734 --> 01:16:06,454
want I want justice and you go through

2330
01:16:06,454 --> 01:16:09,094
some court. Which AI harmed you? Which one

2331
01:16:09,094 --> 01:16:10,454
of them did it? And it's like, well

2332
01:16:10,774 --> 01:16:13,895
Right. They're all blurred together, so I don't

2333
01:16:13,895 --> 01:16:16,534
know exactly which one did it, but I

2334
01:16:16,534 --> 01:16:17,310
just know that

2335
01:16:17,869 --> 01:16:19,069
some one of them did it, and they

2336
01:16:19,069 --> 01:16:21,390
go, yeah. But my client isn't the one

2337
01:16:21,390 --> 01:16:23,069
that harmed you. It could have been the

2338
01:16:23,069 --> 01:16:26,030
other clients. And so the blurring of this

2339
01:16:26,030 --> 01:16:27,170
also makes me

2340
01:16:27,470 --> 01:16:30,130
very concerned. Of course, as you mentioned, the

2341
01:16:30,484 --> 01:16:34,185
operation or the, the the AI component to,

2342
01:16:35,204 --> 01:16:37,284
you know, with Larry Ellison and Sam Altman

2343
01:16:37,284 --> 01:16:39,845
talking about this weaponizing vaccines and, oh, we'll

2344
01:16:39,845 --> 01:16:42,725
have a rush to market experimental vaccine. I

2345
01:16:42,725 --> 01:16:44,645
guess, Wellcome Trust wanted to put it together

2346
01:16:44,645 --> 01:16:46,619
in a hundred days. I think AI or

2347
01:16:46,619 --> 01:16:48,640
Sam Altman and Larry Ellison

2348
01:16:49,020 --> 01:16:51,180
have much different visions on that. I think

2349
01:16:51,180 --> 01:16:53,820
they said two days, you know, turnaround and

2350
01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:56,140
and and have the code sent to someone

2351
01:16:56,140 --> 01:16:58,320
where they can make a a a personalized

2352
01:16:58,619 --> 01:17:01,260
customized vaccine specific for you. Oh, yeah. What

2353
01:17:01,260 --> 01:17:01,664
could

2354
01:17:02,064 --> 01:17:05,024
possibly go wrong with that? Right? So there

2355
01:17:05,104 --> 01:17:06,005
we are in

2356
01:17:06,545 --> 01:17:07,765
a very dangerous

2357
01:17:09,185 --> 01:17:11,984
precipice here, of and we all see it.

2358
01:17:11,984 --> 01:17:13,925
Right. And it's tough to know

2359
01:17:15,090 --> 01:17:16,369
it's tough to know what I mean, it's

2360
01:17:16,369 --> 01:17:17,729
it's one thing if you say, well, we've

2361
01:17:17,729 --> 01:17:19,329
got problems with the vaccines. You go, well,

2362
01:17:19,329 --> 01:17:21,170
don't get your kid vaccinated. Right? So so,

2363
01:17:21,170 --> 01:17:22,310
okay. That's the solution.

2364
01:17:22,770 --> 01:17:24,529
But if it's like we have problems with

2365
01:17:24,529 --> 01:17:26,310
AI, well, don't get your kid

2366
01:17:27,094 --> 01:17:27,594
AI'd.

2367
01:17:28,054 --> 01:17:29,975
Don't get yourself a how do we wait?

2368
01:17:29,975 --> 01:17:31,414
How do we even do this? How do

2369
01:17:31,414 --> 01:17:33,895
I remove myself from this new world that's

2370
01:17:33,895 --> 01:17:36,295
being Ubiquitous. Hoisted upon me, which I have

2371
01:17:36,295 --> 01:17:37,435
no control over?

2372
01:17:37,895 --> 01:17:38,774
Yeah. It's it's

2373
01:17:39,335 --> 01:17:40,534
that that really put a fine point and

2374
01:17:40,534 --> 01:17:43,020
that's terrifying. Because AI, the way it's being

2375
01:17:43,020 --> 01:17:45,899
applied is, you know, ubiquitous. It's in everything.

2376
01:17:45,899 --> 01:17:47,420
It's doing everything. It's reading everything. And so

2377
01:17:47,420 --> 01:17:48,859
at the end of the day, let's just

2378
01:17:48,859 --> 01:17:49,359
say

2379
01:17:49,819 --> 01:17:51,579
it you know, which inevitably seems to be

2380
01:17:51,579 --> 01:17:53,179
the way it's going, goes into direction where

2381
01:17:53,179 --> 01:17:54,619
there's a problem because of it or, you

2382
01:17:54,619 --> 01:17:56,875
know, some kind of Skynet dynamic. Well, there's

2383
01:17:56,875 --> 01:17:58,475
no going back after that. Right? That's the

2384
01:17:58,475 --> 01:17:59,675
point a lot of us are making is

2385
01:17:59,675 --> 01:18:01,114
there's no, like, well, we'll just roll it

2386
01:18:01,114 --> 01:18:02,475
back. That's not how that works at this

2387
01:18:02,475 --> 01:18:04,475
point. And it it's so obvious that these

2388
01:18:04,475 --> 01:18:06,255
problems are not being heard.

2389
01:18:06,635 --> 01:18:08,475
Rather that they just could care less about

2390
01:18:08,475 --> 01:18:10,659
the out the downside, it's about trying to

2391
01:18:10,659 --> 01:18:12,100
take control or, you know, how that's how

2392
01:18:12,100 --> 01:18:13,939
I see it anyway. And it really is

2393
01:18:13,939 --> 01:18:15,399
quite alarming to see how

2394
01:18:15,779 --> 01:18:17,619
in you know, all encompassing, as I said,

2395
01:18:17,619 --> 01:18:19,539
this is with things like this. Leak reveals

2396
01:18:19,539 --> 01:18:21,779
that Sam Altman and Johnny Ive are cooking

2397
01:18:21,779 --> 01:18:24,642
up a hundred million AI companion devices. You

2398
01:18:24,642 --> 01:18:25,744
know? Know? And these are the kind of

2399
01:18:25,744 --> 01:18:27,024
things I'm willing to bet you that'll be

2400
01:18:27,024 --> 01:18:28,864
used in elementary school. Remember how we got

2401
01:18:28,864 --> 01:18:30,225
the Apple computers and everything when you're in

2402
01:18:30,225 --> 01:18:31,824
school and in Oregon Trail and, you know,

2403
01:18:31,824 --> 01:18:33,425
getting you worked in? Like, that's I get

2404
01:18:33,505 --> 01:18:35,024
I'm willing to bet you that we see

2405
01:18:35,024 --> 01:18:36,864
something like that being rolled out for, you

2406
01:18:36,864 --> 01:18:38,784
know, your AI companion while you're going through

2407
01:18:38,784 --> 01:18:40,310
school or something like that, which is kind

2408
01:18:40,310 --> 01:18:40,829
of the way I

2409
01:18:41,630 --> 01:18:43,250
the the normalization of that,

2410
01:18:44,189 --> 01:18:46,750
I guess, never ending spy. You know? Think

2411
01:18:46,750 --> 01:18:48,670
about, like, your phone, where we we laugh

2412
01:18:48,670 --> 01:18:49,630
about in the past where all of us

2413
01:18:49,710 --> 01:18:50,909
you know, they said, wait. You wanna spy

2414
01:18:50,909 --> 01:18:52,204
on everybody, and then they got you to

2415
01:18:52,204 --> 01:18:53,085
put a phone in your pocket. So you

2416
01:18:53,085 --> 01:18:54,284
now can always listen to what you have

2417
01:18:54,284 --> 01:18:56,045
to say. It's like that seems like that

2418
01:18:56,045 --> 01:18:58,045
obvious next step, and that does concern me.

2419
01:18:58,045 --> 01:19:00,125
Or Israel seeks funding for a plan to

2420
01:19:00,125 --> 01:19:03,005
require facial recognition exchange for food in Gaza.

2421
01:19:03,005 --> 01:19:04,859
So one building step on that, and it's

2422
01:19:04,859 --> 01:19:07,260
just using the world's plights to drive us

2423
01:19:07,260 --> 01:19:10,159
into this biometric hellscape that's being built. But,

2424
01:19:10,300 --> 01:19:11,739
yeah, the AI thing I think is a

2425
01:19:11,739 --> 01:19:13,819
central part one of the central concerns of

2426
01:19:13,819 --> 01:19:15,579
our time, in my opinion, that we need

2427
01:19:15,579 --> 01:19:17,324
to do something about this or stop falling

2428
01:19:17,324 --> 01:19:19,485
for this partisan, well, China's doing it first,

2429
01:19:19,485 --> 01:19:21,244
so we have to rush as fast as

2430
01:19:21,244 --> 01:19:22,925
we can headlong into this thing. Kind of

2431
01:19:22,925 --> 01:19:24,845
the same thing with COVID nineteen. Right? Like,

2432
01:19:24,845 --> 01:19:27,005
the rush to see something, to prove something,

2433
01:19:27,005 --> 01:19:27,985
to make an injection,

2434
01:19:28,685 --> 01:19:29,965
never at the you know, always at the

2435
01:19:29,965 --> 01:19:32,045
expense of the American people or the people

2436
01:19:32,045 --> 01:19:32,704
in general.

2437
01:19:33,300 --> 01:19:35,139
Well, Ryan, we need the good brain chips

2438
01:19:35,139 --> 01:19:37,300
to fight the bad brain chips. You know?

2439
01:19:37,300 --> 01:19:39,460
That's what Elon told us. Always binary, man.

2440
01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:40,979
That's always how it goes. You know? It's

2441
01:19:40,979 --> 01:19:42,179
like but, you know, I am of the

2442
01:19:42,179 --> 01:19:43,859
mind that most people are beginning to see

2443
01:19:43,859 --> 01:19:45,219
through this and have been for a long

2444
01:19:45,219 --> 01:19:47,060
time. And I honestly think that it comes

2445
01:19:47,060 --> 01:19:49,505
back to the bun you know, the blunder

2446
01:19:49,505 --> 01:19:51,204
that was the COVID nineteen response.

2447
01:19:51,664 --> 01:19:52,864
So we we can end on this point

2448
01:19:52,864 --> 01:19:54,304
and talk about this because it overlaps kind

2449
01:19:54,304 --> 01:19:55,585
of back with the first point we started

2450
01:19:55,585 --> 01:19:57,664
with. Because here's Dan Bongino saying, as we

2451
01:19:57,664 --> 01:19:59,425
read and process reports of a new COVID

2452
01:19:59,425 --> 01:20:01,179
strain oh, here we go. I want you

2453
01:20:01,179 --> 01:20:03,739
to know that we are actively investigating in

2454
01:20:03,739 --> 01:20:05,979
multiple field offices the cover up of the

2455
01:20:05,979 --> 01:20:07,979
origin of the COVID virus. We're still there.

2456
01:20:07,979 --> 01:20:09,420
You know? They're just it seems like in

2457
01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:11,100
every way, everything they're doing is trying to

2458
01:20:11,100 --> 01:20:13,100
direct you back to things that are largely

2459
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:15,340
already acknowledged, largely already flushed out, but to

2460
01:20:15,340 --> 01:20:17,014
go back to some kind of partisan or,

2461
01:20:17,014 --> 01:20:20,234
you know, binary division point. And it says,

2462
01:20:20,454 --> 01:20:23,654
along with associated matters requiring our attention, you

2463
01:20:23,654 --> 01:20:24,474
deserve answers.

2464
01:20:25,895 --> 01:20:28,409
So this was wait. Did I go back?

2465
01:20:28,650 --> 01:20:29,930
Okay. That was the right one. And so

2466
01:20:29,930 --> 01:20:31,289
I just want your, I thought I had

2467
01:20:31,289 --> 01:20:32,189
a tweet there.

2468
01:20:32,729 --> 01:20:34,570
That's weird. But so on the point of

2469
01:20:34,570 --> 01:20:36,250
the COVID nineteen strain, in which you wanna

2470
01:20:36,250 --> 01:20:37,610
see in this was going around, The US

2471
01:20:37,610 --> 01:20:39,289
sees cases of a new COVID variant linked

2472
01:20:39,289 --> 01:20:40,650
to the surge in China. It seems to

2473
01:20:40,650 --> 01:20:43,494
kinda like the same building points. But Dan

2474
01:20:43,494 --> 01:20:45,735
Bongino, the origin of COVID, you know, why

2475
01:20:45,735 --> 01:20:47,574
would the resources be focused on that? And

2476
01:20:47,574 --> 01:20:48,935
I just want your thoughts on where this

2477
01:20:48,935 --> 01:20:51,195
goes with the kind of new building

2478
01:20:51,735 --> 01:20:52,635
COVID nineteen,

2479
01:20:53,175 --> 01:20:54,695
you know, whether just, let's just say, the

2480
01:20:54,695 --> 01:20:57,895
pathogen WHO kind of hype virus dynamic that

2481
01:20:57,895 --> 01:20:59,710
seems to still be building. Regardless of the

2482
01:20:59,710 --> 01:21:01,469
narrative, you know, with the pandemic accord was

2483
01:21:01,469 --> 01:21:03,949
going despite The US not being technically a

2484
01:21:03,949 --> 01:21:05,630
part of the WHO, you know, where do

2485
01:21:05,630 --> 01:21:06,909
you see all that going in that general?

2486
01:21:06,909 --> 01:21:08,189
And we can talk about the Moderna thing

2487
01:21:08,189 --> 01:21:08,929
at the end.

2488
01:21:09,550 --> 01:21:11,069
Yeah. It's funny. They're gonna get into the

2489
01:21:11,069 --> 01:21:13,229
origins of COVID. Who was the president when

2490
01:21:13,229 --> 01:21:15,375
COVID came out? Oh, it was Donald Trump.

2491
01:21:15,375 --> 01:21:17,135
Oh, yeah. That's interesting. So you're gonna go

2492
01:21:17,135 --> 01:21:19,234
investigate your boss? Who's Hardly.

2493
01:21:19,614 --> 01:21:22,414
What let's let's have Dan Bongino talk about

2494
01:21:22,414 --> 01:21:24,335
event two zero one and drag all the

2495
01:21:24,335 --> 01:21:26,414
people that participated in that, put them in

2496
01:21:26,414 --> 01:21:28,094
handcuffs, and and drag them down to the

2497
01:21:28,094 --> 01:21:30,780
police station and start interrogating them about things,

2498
01:21:30,780 --> 01:21:32,159
about advanced knowledge.

2499
01:21:32,699 --> 01:21:33,199
So

2500
01:21:33,739 --> 01:21:35,579
it's a limited hangout, I think. Yep. You

2501
01:21:35,579 --> 01:21:37,979
know, the the idea that we're gonna litigate

2502
01:21:37,979 --> 01:21:40,619
what well, it's Wuhan. We gotta go get

2503
01:21:40,619 --> 01:21:42,380
the Chinese, and they did all this stuff.

2504
01:21:42,380 --> 01:21:42,960
It's like,

2505
01:21:43,420 --> 01:21:44,720
the Chinese didn't

2506
01:21:45,715 --> 01:21:48,275
bulldoze sand into the skate parks and arrest

2507
01:21:48,275 --> 01:21:50,835
surfers for not wearing a mask. That wasn't

2508
01:21:50,835 --> 01:21:52,675
the Chinese government that did that. That was

2509
01:21:52,675 --> 01:21:54,914
our government. That was our disgusting government that

2510
01:21:54,914 --> 01:21:57,954
did all those things. So I I again,

2511
01:21:57,954 --> 01:21:59,335
Dan Bongino, boy.

2512
01:22:00,319 --> 01:22:03,119
What an utter fraud he is. And and

2513
01:22:03,119 --> 01:22:04,800
the idea that there's people out there that

2514
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,319
that think that he's gonna come in and

2515
01:22:06,319 --> 01:22:07,939
get to the bottom of things is

2516
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:10,659
but, I mean, it's just it's just cue

2517
01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:12,675
at first far as the eye can see.

2518
01:22:13,234 --> 01:22:15,314
You're that guy as far as I'm concerned.

2519
01:22:15,314 --> 01:22:16,034
I I think the

2520
01:22:17,554 --> 01:22:18,854
you know, it it's

2521
01:22:19,234 --> 01:22:21,554
as it's been said before, COVID was an

2522
01:22:21,554 --> 01:22:23,554
IQ test. It was a it was a

2523
01:22:23,554 --> 01:22:25,335
test to see who was paying attention.

2524
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:27,500
It was, it was a

2525
01:22:28,760 --> 01:22:30,600
a drill to find out who's good at

2526
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,380
following orders and who isn't.

2527
01:22:32,840 --> 01:22:34,380
Mhmm. It it was a

2528
01:22:34,680 --> 01:22:35,180
psychological

2529
01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,385
operation to break people down, you know, and

2530
01:22:38,385 --> 01:22:40,385
back to Besanoff when he talks about the

2531
01:22:40,385 --> 01:22:43,664
four steps four stages of ideological subversion, third

2532
01:22:43,664 --> 01:22:45,684
step is introduce a crisis.

2533
01:22:46,145 --> 01:22:48,244
It has to last at least six weeks,

2534
01:22:48,465 --> 01:22:50,780
but then in the after after I after

2535
01:22:50,780 --> 01:22:53,340
you go through the crisis, I can shower

2536
01:22:53,340 --> 01:22:56,460
them with authentic information and it won't change

2537
01:22:56,460 --> 01:22:58,960
their mind. They are broken. They are demoralized.

2538
01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:01,100
So again, I think that there is a

2539
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,319
segment of the population

2540
01:23:03,064 --> 01:23:05,545
who got broken by COVID. I think there's

2541
01:23:05,545 --> 01:23:06,444
also a segment

2542
01:23:07,064 --> 01:23:08,585
who woke up because of it and they

2543
01:23:08,585 --> 01:23:09,564
went, woah.

2544
01:23:09,944 --> 01:23:11,944
Yeah. There's a lot of nonsense going on

2545
01:23:11,944 --> 01:23:13,564
here. The media is lying to me.

2546
01:23:14,824 --> 01:23:16,045
The stories are inconsistent.

2547
01:23:16,744 --> 01:23:18,750
My experiences with it, you know, I mean,

2548
01:23:18,750 --> 01:23:20,109
I was told there was gonna be a

2549
01:23:20,189 --> 01:23:22,349
there was a pandemic and that it was

2550
01:23:22,349 --> 01:23:24,029
going to kill millions and millions. There should

2551
01:23:24,029 --> 01:23:25,489
be people stacked up

2552
01:23:25,789 --> 01:23:28,929
corpses on my sidewalk except I walk through

2553
01:23:29,069 --> 01:23:30,670
and I don't see anybody and then I

2554
01:23:30,670 --> 01:23:31,810
go turn on my

2555
01:23:32,685 --> 01:23:34,524
my social media, and I see a bunch

2556
01:23:34,524 --> 01:23:37,805
of dancing nurses that are clearly not working.

2557
01:23:37,805 --> 01:23:39,645
They're not doing anything. What am I how

2558
01:23:39,645 --> 01:23:42,784
am I supposed to to internalize this? So

2559
01:23:43,885 --> 01:23:46,284
if they wanna try and push COVID a

2560
01:23:46,284 --> 01:23:47,104
second time,

2561
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,119
good luck to them. You know, I mean,

2562
01:23:49,119 --> 01:23:50,500
I just I I feel

2563
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:51,939
that that is

2564
01:23:54,319 --> 01:23:56,399
probably not the best strategy. I don't know.

2565
01:23:56,399 --> 01:23:58,000
Again, I'm not trying to give these people

2566
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:00,079
ideas, but I I just would think that

2567
01:24:00,079 --> 01:24:02,274
you would pivot to something else. I mean,

2568
01:24:02,274 --> 01:24:03,954
we know that they're trying to launch bird

2569
01:24:03,954 --> 01:24:05,555
flu. They've been trying to do that for

2570
01:24:05,555 --> 01:24:07,154
twenty five years. I mean, they they try

2571
01:24:07,154 --> 01:24:09,475
it in Asia every decade or so. It

2572
01:24:09,475 --> 01:24:10,694
doesn't really go anywhere.

2573
01:24:11,314 --> 01:24:13,475
So and we saw recently, I think, in

2574
01:24:13,475 --> 01:24:16,909
the paper yesterday talking about a $700,000,000

2575
01:24:16,909 --> 01:24:18,270
deal that just got ripped up that was

2576
01:24:18,270 --> 01:24:20,030
for bird flu. But don't worry. It'll just

2577
01:24:20,030 --> 01:24:22,270
pivot into a different type of vaccine for

2578
01:24:22,270 --> 01:24:24,210
for bird flu. It'll be mRNA

2579
01:24:24,590 --> 01:24:27,390
with AI component. You're on it. So it's

2580
01:24:27,390 --> 01:24:27,890
so

2581
01:24:28,590 --> 01:24:29,710
it's not it's,

2582
01:24:31,485 --> 01:24:32,784
I guess, I take

2583
01:24:33,244 --> 01:24:34,925
a little bit of solace in knowing that

2584
01:24:34,925 --> 01:24:37,005
there that a segment in the population woke

2585
01:24:37,005 --> 01:24:39,645
up to it during during the scam, whether

2586
01:24:39,645 --> 01:24:41,805
it was the messaging that was wonky, whether

2587
01:24:41,805 --> 01:24:43,564
it was their eyeballs, it didn't pass the

2588
01:24:43,564 --> 01:24:46,250
test, whether they saw the authoritarians come out,

2589
01:24:46,250 --> 01:24:48,010
whether they saw their neighbor, you know, their

2590
01:24:48,010 --> 01:24:50,090
neighbor calling the police because there's too many

2591
01:24:50,090 --> 01:24:52,010
cars in the driveway on Thanksgiving and they

2592
01:24:52,010 --> 01:24:54,090
think there's a super spreader event. It was

2593
01:24:54,090 --> 01:24:54,590
revealing

2594
01:24:55,130 --> 01:24:56,729
about the character of a lot of people

2595
01:24:56,729 --> 01:24:58,854
in The United States. There are people, you

2596
01:24:58,854 --> 01:25:00,534
know, there you'd you'd heard the things well

2597
01:25:00,534 --> 01:25:02,295
off the if I were alive in in

2598
01:25:02,295 --> 01:25:04,454
Germany, I would have hid Anne Anne Frank

2599
01:25:04,454 --> 01:25:05,975
in my attic. I would have I would

2600
01:25:05,975 --> 01:25:06,715
have never,

2601
01:25:07,335 --> 01:25:09,494
you know, partnered up with these Nazis and

2602
01:25:09,494 --> 01:25:11,675
goose stepped down the down the street.

2603
01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,360
Yes. You would. Yes. You would. Because you

2604
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:16,360
called the police on your neighbor for having

2605
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:18,039
too many cars in your parking lot. You

2606
01:25:18,039 --> 01:25:20,360
most definitely would have participated in this. People

2607
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,760
are weak. People are especially weak when they

2608
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,360
think that they that all they have to

2609
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,939
do is comply, and then Mhmm. They're protected.

2610
01:25:27,425 --> 01:25:27,925
There's

2611
01:25:28,305 --> 01:25:31,345
a huge rush. To do. Right? They they

2612
01:25:31,345 --> 01:25:32,465
passed on. I must say, no. That's the

2613
01:25:32,465 --> 01:25:33,585
good thing. You're supposed to tell on your

2614
01:25:33,585 --> 01:25:34,864
neighbor. Sorry. Keep going. I just think that's

2615
01:25:34,864 --> 01:25:36,385
important. Sure. Yeah. I mean, if you see

2616
01:25:36,385 --> 01:25:38,704
something, say something. That's what Janet Napolitano told

2617
01:25:38,704 --> 01:25:41,025
us. Right? Except, well, I I see something

2618
01:25:41,025 --> 01:25:42,800
all the time. And whenever I say it,

2619
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,819
it's funny. I get banned from social media.

2620
01:25:45,359 --> 01:25:46,960
Apparently, it's a one way street on the

2621
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:48,719
things that they want you to to talk

2622
01:25:48,719 --> 01:25:49,619
about. But,

2623
01:25:50,719 --> 01:25:51,439
it's been,

2624
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:54,099
you know, it was a a big unmasking

2625
01:25:54,484 --> 01:25:57,204
the last five years with regard to COVID.

2626
01:25:57,204 --> 01:25:59,125
It it showed the the media for who

2627
01:25:59,125 --> 01:26:01,844
they really are. It showed the pharmaceutical industry

2628
01:26:01,844 --> 01:26:03,145
for being a bunch of convicted

2629
01:26:04,885 --> 01:26:05,385
criminals.

2630
01:26:05,764 --> 01:26:08,569
They're all felon convicted felons for their crimes

2631
01:26:08,630 --> 01:26:10,789
that they've committed over the years that they've

2632
01:26:10,789 --> 01:26:11,689
been in business.

2633
01:26:12,310 --> 01:26:14,310
It was it was an indictment on weak

2634
01:26:14,310 --> 01:26:17,689
people, and and it showed that, the pharmaceutical

2635
01:26:17,989 --> 01:26:20,090
industry has still has a ton of power.

2636
01:26:21,694 --> 01:26:24,194
Hopefully, some of that goes away. I think

2637
01:26:25,774 --> 01:26:27,534
I think I I think I would love

2638
01:26:27,534 --> 01:26:29,795
to see I mean, I have my expectations

2639
01:26:29,935 --> 01:26:32,975
for RFK junior are extremely low. I don't

2640
01:26:32,975 --> 01:26:33,954
think he is,

2641
01:26:34,335 --> 01:26:36,255
I don't think he is in a position

2642
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,599
even if he wanted to change the world,

2643
01:26:38,599 --> 01:26:39,960
I don't think he can. I think he's

2644
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:40,460
too

2645
01:26:42,279 --> 01:26:42,779
compromised.

2646
01:26:43,239 --> 01:26:46,119
But, you know, the the idea that that,

2647
01:26:47,479 --> 01:26:48,699
that he could come out

2648
01:26:49,079 --> 01:26:51,979
and maybe end the direct to consumer advertising

2649
01:26:52,735 --> 01:26:54,655
on the mainstream media. That would be a

2650
01:26:54,655 --> 01:26:57,295
victory, I think, because if he if he

2651
01:26:57,295 --> 01:26:58,034
did that,

2652
01:26:58,655 --> 01:27:01,074
I think the following day, CNN and MSNBC

2653
01:27:01,295 --> 01:27:03,295
would file for bankruptcy. They would just or

2654
01:27:03,295 --> 01:27:05,935
their parent companies would zero them out and

2655
01:27:05,935 --> 01:27:07,534
write them off as a tax loss and

2656
01:27:07,534 --> 01:27:09,510
then close them down. Because when you get

2657
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:11,689
60% of your ad revenue from the pharmaceutical

2658
01:27:11,909 --> 01:27:14,250
industry in The United States as we do,

2659
01:27:14,710 --> 01:27:17,029
no more Skyrizi commercials anymore. You know? No

2660
01:27:17,029 --> 01:27:18,869
more no none of that. None of that

2661
01:27:18,869 --> 01:27:21,029
stuff that that was clogging up your television.

2662
01:27:21,029 --> 01:27:23,189
You're gonna have have media companies that don't

2663
01:27:23,189 --> 01:27:26,014
have any revenue coming in any longer. So

2664
01:27:26,314 --> 01:27:28,555
I have no expectations for a guy like

2665
01:27:28,555 --> 01:27:30,635
that getting in there and and doing anything

2666
01:27:30,635 --> 01:27:32,895
the next time COVID comes around. However,

2667
01:27:33,435 --> 01:27:34,875
if there's one if I could wave a

2668
01:27:34,875 --> 01:27:36,875
magic wand and get him to accomplish one

2669
01:27:36,875 --> 01:27:38,574
thing, it would be to end that

2670
01:27:39,150 --> 01:27:41,949
that, direct to consumer advertising because it's a

2671
01:27:41,949 --> 01:27:42,770
two for one.

2672
01:27:43,229 --> 01:27:44,210
You you simultaneously

2673
01:27:44,750 --> 01:27:46,930
get those ads off of TV while

2674
01:27:47,310 --> 01:27:49,390
destroying the mainstream media in the process. Because

2675
01:27:49,390 --> 01:27:51,789
none of us are taking advert advertising revenue

2676
01:27:51,789 --> 01:27:54,885
from Pfizer or Merck or Moderna or anything

2677
01:27:54,885 --> 01:27:57,784
like that. They are. Mainstream media is nobody's

2678
01:27:57,925 --> 01:27:58,425
offering,

2679
01:27:59,284 --> 01:28:02,505
to sponsor act activist post with the Moderna

2680
01:28:02,564 --> 01:28:03,765
ads. You know, not that I would take

2681
01:28:03,765 --> 01:28:05,364
their money anyway, but it's it's not gonna

2682
01:28:05,364 --> 01:28:06,345
impact my revenue,

2683
01:28:06,789 --> 01:28:09,189
but it would for them. And so, hopefully,

2684
01:28:09,189 --> 01:28:10,489
something like that would happen.

2685
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:13,109
Okay. But you might also notice, I'm not

2686
01:28:13,109 --> 01:28:14,649
holding my breath either

2687
01:28:15,109 --> 01:28:17,189
because that guy has promised quite a bit.

2688
01:28:17,189 --> 01:28:19,510
And so far, I haven't seen much. So,

2689
01:28:20,204 --> 01:28:22,445
it would be nice, but that that might

2690
01:28:22,445 --> 01:28:24,704
just me be me, fantasizing.

2691
01:28:25,244 --> 01:28:26,524
Well, I mean, we should all hope for

2692
01:28:26,524 --> 01:28:28,125
that. Definitely. Right? But I but I think

2693
01:28:28,125 --> 01:28:28,864
that the

2694
01:28:29,324 --> 01:28:31,484
the concern is based on the track record

2695
01:28:31,484 --> 01:28:33,340
thus far. And, again, whether it's blackmailed, whether

2696
01:28:33,340 --> 01:28:34,300
it's that he's never been on it, you

2697
01:28:34,300 --> 01:28:35,820
know, whatever it is, clearly something there's a

2698
01:28:35,820 --> 01:28:37,260
black hole there. Clearly, we could see something

2699
01:28:37,260 --> 01:28:39,500
shifting. You know? Is if that was going

2700
01:28:39,500 --> 01:28:40,940
to happen, I'd be willing to bet you

2701
01:28:40,940 --> 01:28:42,940
the establishment that clearly is still in control

2702
01:28:42,940 --> 01:28:44,460
would not allow there be some kind of

2703
01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:46,354
pivot, whether it's gonna be APAC funding all

2704
01:28:46,354 --> 01:28:47,395
of a sudden or, you know, whatever it

2705
01:28:47,395 --> 01:28:49,074
is. My mind jumps to that, but anything.

2706
01:28:49,074 --> 01:28:51,074
You know? The funding will be replaced. I

2707
01:28:51,074 --> 01:28:51,734
don't think

2708
01:28:52,114 --> 01:28:53,734
that they would allow that propaganda

2709
01:28:54,034 --> 01:28:55,475
network to go away. It's I mean, we

2710
01:28:55,475 --> 01:28:57,074
all know it's they're all subsidized by this

2711
01:28:57,074 --> 01:28:59,500
point. Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, they'd fail right

2712
01:28:59,500 --> 01:29:01,119
now if it wasn't for this, you know,

2713
01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:03,819
propped up dynamic. You know? But I still

2714
01:29:03,819 --> 01:29:05,260
would hope to see that. I still think

2715
01:29:05,260 --> 01:29:06,939
that will be a positive step. Also a

2716
01:29:06,939 --> 01:29:09,199
positive step, and I I think it was,

2717
01:29:10,305 --> 01:29:12,225
I guess, feigned step, the idea of the

2718
01:29:12,225 --> 01:29:13,445
removal of the,

2719
01:29:14,225 --> 01:29:16,324
COVID shot for for,

2720
01:29:17,025 --> 01:29:18,784
you know, basically saying that they if they're

2721
01:29:18,784 --> 01:29:20,625
they're not gonna recommend it anymore. They didn't

2722
01:29:20,625 --> 01:29:22,065
remove it from the schedule. They're not gonna

2723
01:29:22,065 --> 01:29:24,145
recommend it for people in certain categories anymore,

2724
01:29:24,145 --> 01:29:26,610
which is still a positive inching forward, but

2725
01:29:26,610 --> 01:29:28,050
they're still allowing the shots to be given,

2726
01:29:28,050 --> 01:29:29,250
which we all know are deadly, that he

2727
01:29:29,250 --> 01:29:30,449
told us are deadly. And, you know, the

2728
01:29:30,449 --> 01:29:31,890
thing is frustrating. A lot of people are

2729
01:29:31,890 --> 01:29:33,729
calling it out. Danny Rand coup, Talley Beaudin,

2730
01:29:33,729 --> 01:29:35,329
different people are standing up and saying, that

2731
01:29:35,329 --> 01:29:37,090
doesn't make any sense. You know they're deadly.

2732
01:29:37,090 --> 01:29:38,850
You said that before. You know? But, again,

2733
01:29:38,850 --> 01:29:40,774
it's still one little step further. But the

2734
01:29:40,774 --> 01:29:42,295
point is you're still telling people that they

2735
01:29:42,295 --> 01:29:44,375
should take them in certain circumstances, which is

2736
01:29:44,375 --> 01:29:46,135
insane to me. But I wanna bring that

2737
01:29:46,135 --> 01:29:48,215
up because, still, that's also somewhat in that

2738
01:29:48,215 --> 01:29:50,135
direction, and I'll overlap that with this to

2739
01:29:50,135 --> 01:29:51,975
end. And to your point about the COVID

2740
01:29:51,975 --> 01:29:53,095
thing, I agree with you. And I've been

2741
01:29:53,095 --> 01:29:54,314
saying the same thing about

2742
01:29:54,880 --> 01:29:57,199
it doesn't make sense. Like, clearly, going in

2743
01:29:57,199 --> 01:29:59,360
the same direction again doesn't seem to add

2744
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,520
up. However, the one way I think it

2745
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,199
would, which I know we all see does

2746
01:30:03,199 --> 01:30:05,039
work today to some degree, would be them

2747
01:30:05,039 --> 01:30:07,215
to say, you know, through Trump, have Donald

2748
01:30:07,215 --> 01:30:10,014
Trump come out through that administration and say,

2749
01:30:10,014 --> 01:30:12,255
this one's real, though. Right? This is what's

2750
01:30:12,255 --> 01:30:14,255
happening. This is a you know, Democrats lied

2751
01:30:14,255 --> 01:30:15,454
to you, but I can prove this to

2752
01:30:15,454 --> 01:30:16,574
you right now. And and we are making

2753
01:30:16,574 --> 01:30:17,774
a good one this time. This is a

2754
01:30:17,774 --> 01:30:19,319
good shot that we've changed. I how on

2755
01:30:19,319 --> 01:30:20,760
you how much you wanna bet most of

2756
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,119
them would probably fall in line, which is

2757
01:30:22,119 --> 01:30:23,960
terrifying. You know? And that that scares me.

2758
01:30:23,960 --> 01:30:25,719
But I agree with you. I don't think

2759
01:30:25,719 --> 01:30:26,760
that's the way it's gonna go. And that's

2760
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,359
why I think it's interesting that the COVID

2761
01:30:28,359 --> 01:30:30,599
shot is probably not even what they're interested

2762
01:30:30,599 --> 01:30:32,039
in anymore. Right? So moving that off the

2763
01:30:32,039 --> 01:30:34,199
schedule entirely even would still be a win,

2764
01:30:34,199 --> 01:30:35,954
but I don't think that's where they're aiming.

2765
01:30:35,954 --> 01:30:38,595
I mean, Stargate's an mRNA platform. Right? They've

2766
01:30:38,595 --> 01:30:40,354
got all sorts of mRNA shots that they're

2767
01:30:40,354 --> 01:30:41,975
working with. Now to that point,

2768
01:30:42,435 --> 01:30:44,034
this is recent news, which I I saw

2769
01:30:44,034 --> 01:30:45,475
this. I said good because I was worried

2770
01:30:45,475 --> 01:30:47,235
about this. The this is the bird flu

2771
01:30:47,235 --> 01:30:48,989
shot that was approved under Biden at the

2772
01:30:48,989 --> 01:30:50,829
very end of his administration that has carried

2773
01:30:50,829 --> 01:30:52,510
through. And you could already prove that they

2774
01:30:52,510 --> 01:30:54,430
did continue this, but now it seems they've

2775
01:30:54,430 --> 01:30:56,270
canceled. At least they've announced that. I'm gonna

2776
01:30:56,270 --> 01:30:57,949
look more into this in today and tomorrow.

2777
01:30:57,949 --> 01:31:00,989
But so the report was Trump canceled $766,000,000

2778
01:31:00,989 --> 01:31:03,274
Moderna contract to fight pandemic flu. What I

2779
01:31:03,274 --> 01:31:05,295
found interesting was here's what CNN reported.

2780
01:31:05,595 --> 01:31:07,354
HHS cancels $590,000,000

2781
01:31:07,354 --> 01:31:09,354
contract. Here's what, where is the other one?

2782
01:31:09,354 --> 01:31:11,695
Here's what, oh, that closed it on accident?

2783
01:31:11,835 --> 01:31:13,034
That was too bad. There was another one.

2784
01:31:13,034 --> 01:31:14,954
There there there was three, articles. All had

2785
01:31:14,954 --> 01:31:16,734
a different number. I think that's hilarious.

2786
01:31:17,239 --> 01:31:18,600
Corporate media. They didn't really know what they're

2787
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:20,520
talking about. I believe it's around I think

2788
01:31:20,520 --> 01:31:22,600
it's $7.66 with the with the accurate full

2789
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,159
picture. My point was, just because they're pulling

2790
01:31:25,159 --> 01:31:27,239
back on the mRNA shot or excuse me,

2791
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:28,920
the bird flu shot from before of the

2792
01:31:29,079 --> 01:31:31,364
before this that carried over, as you likely

2793
01:31:31,364 --> 01:31:32,885
know, that's why I said you're on it,

2794
01:31:32,885 --> 01:31:34,425
they're still rolling this one out.

2795
01:31:34,725 --> 01:31:37,465
MRNA vaccine candidate, which was the self amplifying

2796
01:31:37,845 --> 01:31:40,404
mRNA shot for the same thing, for bird

2797
01:31:40,404 --> 01:31:40,904
flu.

2798
01:31:41,204 --> 01:31:42,404
So it's sort of a bait and switch,

2799
01:31:42,404 --> 01:31:43,604
and it always seems to be the case

2800
01:31:43,604 --> 01:31:44,940
because you're getting a lot of cheering, which

2801
01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:46,500
I agree with is good to stop this

2802
01:31:46,500 --> 01:31:49,060
contract. But as if that means, c, they

2803
01:31:49,060 --> 01:31:50,500
don't really want this to happen. They don't

2804
01:31:50,500 --> 01:31:52,180
believe in these things, but they do. And

2805
01:31:52,180 --> 01:31:53,939
they're leaning into mRNA shots all over the

2806
01:31:53,939 --> 01:31:55,320
place, including the central

2807
01:31:55,699 --> 01:31:58,005
hanging, which is the Stargate platform. You know?

2808
01:31:58,005 --> 01:31:59,364
It's it's all right in front of us,

2809
01:31:59,364 --> 01:32:00,885
and so it really worries me. And I'll

2810
01:32:00,885 --> 01:32:02,405
also highlight this one I've talked about, the

2811
01:32:02,405 --> 01:32:05,204
Aerovacs, which is an aerosolized version of these

2812
01:32:05,204 --> 01:32:06,805
same things. Right. You know? So I just

2813
01:32:06,805 --> 01:32:07,925
see where all this is going, and I

2814
01:32:07,925 --> 01:32:09,779
really just hope we can continue to be,

2815
01:32:09,939 --> 01:32:12,199
you know, as we said earlier, skeptical, especially

2816
01:32:12,340 --> 01:32:14,020
to those that you believe in, because maybe

2817
01:32:14,020 --> 01:32:15,859
they're being played. Right? You should be holding

2818
01:32:15,859 --> 01:32:17,539
their feet to the fire more than anybody.

2819
01:32:17,539 --> 01:32:19,460
But final thoughts on this and where it

2820
01:32:19,460 --> 01:32:21,300
goes, COVID or whatever else, Charlie. Always fun

2821
01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:22,279
to talk to you, man.

2822
01:32:22,904 --> 01:32:24,844
I'm just envisioning this aerosolized

2823
01:32:25,385 --> 01:32:28,184
vaccine being sprayed all over San Francisco like

2824
01:32:28,184 --> 01:32:30,204
they did back in the, what, fifties, sixties,

2825
01:32:30,425 --> 01:32:30,925
operation

2826
01:32:31,385 --> 01:32:34,024
sea spray? Yeah. Yeah. After doing that, we're

2827
01:32:34,024 --> 01:32:36,229
just testing it out. We'll see if, you

2828
01:32:36,229 --> 01:32:38,390
know, what what happens. It's it's a dangerous

2829
01:32:38,390 --> 01:32:39,289
time to be

2830
01:32:39,670 --> 01:32:41,829
paying attention, but I'd rather be paying attention

2831
01:32:41,829 --> 01:32:44,149
than asleep at the wheel and walking into

2832
01:32:44,149 --> 01:32:45,989
these traps, and it seems like we're gonna

2833
01:32:45,989 --> 01:32:48,789
have our hands full moving forward because if

2834
01:32:48,789 --> 01:32:50,944
you wanna convince the Trump you know, if

2835
01:32:50,944 --> 01:32:52,704
you wanna convince the Trump people to operate

2836
01:32:52,704 --> 01:32:54,225
against their own best interest, you have to

2837
01:32:54,225 --> 01:32:55,744
have a a guy like Trump in there

2838
01:32:55,744 --> 01:32:57,744
to do it. You know? That's that's so

2839
01:32:57,744 --> 01:32:59,744
I I the the people on the right

2840
01:32:59,744 --> 01:33:01,345
side of the aisle, they need to have

2841
01:33:01,345 --> 01:33:03,104
their eyes open. They think they're safe because

2842
01:33:03,104 --> 01:33:04,590
their guy is in there. No. No. No.

2843
01:33:04,750 --> 01:33:07,489
You're the crosshairs are squarely on you

2844
01:33:08,029 --> 01:33:10,109
because your guy is in there, because they

2845
01:33:10,109 --> 01:33:12,109
know he will be able to get to

2846
01:33:12,109 --> 01:33:14,510
you in a way that that Kamala Harris

2847
01:33:14,510 --> 01:33:15,409
and that administration

2848
01:33:15,710 --> 01:33:17,969
never could. He'll be able to reach you

2849
01:33:18,175 --> 01:33:20,255
because you have let your guard down because

2850
01:33:20,255 --> 01:33:22,114
you secretly you're you've

2851
01:33:22,574 --> 01:33:24,574
you've come to believe that Donald Trump is

2852
01:33:24,574 --> 01:33:26,675
is there to help you. So,

2853
01:33:28,095 --> 01:33:29,854
same old thing. Right? If you wanna get

2854
01:33:29,854 --> 01:33:32,515
the right to to get involved in it,

2855
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:34,779
get a Republican president

2856
01:33:35,159 --> 01:33:37,000
in there. Now you've got Trump. So then

2857
01:33:37,000 --> 01:33:38,520
for the next couple of years, it's gonna

2858
01:33:38,520 --> 01:33:40,600
be a war against them. They won't see

2859
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:43,000
it. They won't believe it. They can't believe

2860
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:45,079
it. They can't allow themselves to to believe

2861
01:33:45,079 --> 01:33:47,000
that Donald Trump is is who he is.

2862
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:49,755
But I will remind everybody what Steve Poikin

2863
01:33:49,755 --> 01:33:51,515
and always reminds me. And that is that

2864
01:33:51,515 --> 01:33:52,255
Donald Trump

2865
01:33:52,555 --> 01:33:55,215
has is in the world wrestling entertainment

2866
01:33:55,835 --> 01:33:57,774
hall of fame. Right. As a

2867
01:33:58,154 --> 01:33:58,654
professional

2868
01:33:59,034 --> 01:34:01,854
wrestler. And when you watch his administration,

2869
01:34:03,150 --> 01:34:05,470
the only thing missing is to hits hitting

2870
01:34:05,470 --> 01:34:07,470
some guy in the head with a folding

2871
01:34:07,470 --> 01:34:09,470
chair at this point because I've watched him

2872
01:34:09,470 --> 01:34:11,390
do it with Zelensky. We watched him do

2873
01:34:11,390 --> 01:34:13,390
it with the guy in South Africa. He

2874
01:34:13,390 --> 01:34:15,390
brings him in for these struggle sessions. It

2875
01:34:15,390 --> 01:34:18,225
feels very inauthentic, and I'm just waiting for

2876
01:34:18,225 --> 01:34:20,085
him to get up on the top turnbuckle

2877
01:34:20,225 --> 01:34:23,025
and go do a flying leap on some

2878
01:34:23,025 --> 01:34:24,945
guy at some point because it all feels

2879
01:34:24,945 --> 01:34:27,905
very cartoonish to me. Yeah. Yeah. I agree.

2880
01:34:27,905 --> 01:34:29,604
You know? And I I think that

2881
01:34:30,064 --> 01:34:30,645
I mean,

2882
01:34:31,260 --> 01:34:33,020
it's obvious that people fall for this stuff.

2883
01:34:33,020 --> 01:34:34,559
You know? But I I think that, clearly,

2884
01:34:34,939 --> 01:34:37,119
it it it it's not it's it's partisanship.

2885
01:34:37,420 --> 01:34:39,420
Just like with COVID nineteen, the left very

2886
01:34:39,420 --> 01:34:41,500
clearly didn't want to believe that their part

2887
01:34:41,500 --> 01:34:42,859
of the team was gonna allow this to

2888
01:34:42,859 --> 01:34:44,000
happen. You know? And people

2889
01:34:44,380 --> 01:34:44,880
ignore

2890
01:34:45,420 --> 01:34:46,319
what is obviously,

2891
01:34:47,234 --> 01:34:49,234
you know, not in their interest. They they

2892
01:34:49,395 --> 01:34:51,475
rather, they would ignore what the governments are

2893
01:34:51,475 --> 01:34:53,234
doing that are hurting them in real time

2894
01:34:53,234 --> 01:34:54,594
because they wanna take a side. You know?

2895
01:34:54,594 --> 01:34:56,614
And I think the the problem is clearly

2896
01:34:56,914 --> 01:34:58,914
for them that, as you said earlier, people

2897
01:34:58,914 --> 01:35:00,755
are just no longer really falling in line

2898
01:35:00,755 --> 01:35:01,795
as much as they were. And I think

2899
01:35:01,795 --> 01:35:02,890
that's what a lot of this comes back

2900
01:35:02,890 --> 01:35:04,250
to. And as you said as well, I

2901
01:35:04,250 --> 01:35:05,529
don't think it's gonna be the same thing.

2902
01:35:05,529 --> 01:35:06,970
I think what they're doing is gonna be

2903
01:35:06,970 --> 01:35:08,270
a different flavor

2904
01:35:08,649 --> 01:35:10,729
of a similar dynamic. And and and to

2905
01:35:10,729 --> 01:35:12,810
your last point, Brad Binkley said this recently

2906
01:35:12,810 --> 01:35:14,090
on a show he invited me on for

2907
01:35:14,090 --> 01:35:15,529
interview. And I same thing you were just

2908
01:35:15,529 --> 01:35:17,210
saying. I really think this is a profound

2909
01:35:17,210 --> 01:35:19,364
but simple thing to think about, That if

2910
01:35:19,425 --> 01:35:21,744
a anybody but an authority, a government, was

2911
01:35:21,744 --> 01:35:23,984
gonna manipulate you, they're not gonna choose the

2912
01:35:23,984 --> 01:35:26,064
person that you hate to deliver the message.

2913
01:35:26,064 --> 01:35:27,664
They're gonna choose someone that you'll be open

2914
01:35:27,664 --> 01:35:29,505
to, somebody that you'll be interested in listening

2915
01:35:29,505 --> 01:35:31,185
to. And so it's it doesn't mean that

2916
01:35:31,185 --> 01:35:33,024
everyone you trust is therefore not on your

2917
01:35:33,024 --> 01:35:35,439
side, but that should be the number one

2918
01:35:35,979 --> 01:35:36,479
consideration

2919
01:35:36,939 --> 01:35:38,539
about whether that might be the case. And

2920
01:35:38,539 --> 01:35:41,260
that's just being objective. Question everything, right, while

2921
01:35:41,260 --> 01:35:42,479
considering all possibilities.

2922
01:35:42,860 --> 01:35:44,699
So thank you again, brother. I'm sure we'll

2923
01:35:44,699 --> 01:35:46,300
do this again soon. What the hell is

2924
01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:46,800
happening?

2925
01:35:47,234 --> 01:35:48,594
Oh, good. Yeah. Go ahead. I've got one

2926
01:35:48,594 --> 01:35:50,594
last thing to add since we're since since

2927
01:35:50,594 --> 01:35:52,514
we're we're on a live show. Any of

2928
01:35:52,514 --> 01:35:53,335
you in

2929
01:35:53,715 --> 01:35:55,094
the Phoenix area

2930
01:35:55,635 --> 01:35:58,354
this weekend, Saturday night, I will be there

2931
01:35:58,354 --> 01:36:00,914
for the premiere the world premiere of the

2932
01:36:00,914 --> 01:36:03,159
new movie Barnum World, which is brought to

2933
01:36:03,159 --> 01:36:05,020
you by the guys who did Jones Plantation.

2934
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,600
The same director and, the same star, mister

2935
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,079
Jones. You'll know him on Twitter as legal

2936
01:36:11,079 --> 01:36:11,579
man.

2937
01:36:12,279 --> 01:36:15,319
Star in Barnum World. I am also sort

2938
01:36:15,319 --> 01:36:16,840
of in the movie. I'm the voice over.

2939
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:18,975
I'm the narrator, and I'm the off camera

2940
01:36:18,975 --> 01:36:21,055
interviewer who's interviewing the guy. So you never

2941
01:36:21,055 --> 01:36:22,835
actually see me in the movie, but,

2942
01:36:23,375 --> 01:36:25,475
but I'm in it. So, we'll be in

2943
01:36:25,614 --> 01:36:26,435
Tempe, Arizona,

2944
01:36:26,975 --> 01:36:30,015
Saturday Night, May 30 First. If you're interested

2945
01:36:30,015 --> 01:36:31,534
in getting tickets to the premiere, you can

2946
01:36:31,534 --> 01:36:34,699
go to Eventbrite. Just type in Barnum World.

2947
01:36:34,760 --> 01:36:36,060
That's the name of the movie,

2948
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:38,600
and then it'll be available to the general

2949
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,280
public the following week. I think he's gonna

2950
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,960
put it on YouTube. It'll be free for

2951
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:43,400
everybody. But if you happen to be in

2952
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,000
Phoenix and you're looking for something to do

2953
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,760
on on Saturday night, you can come to

2954
01:36:46,760 --> 01:36:48,835
the world premiere of Barnum World. Should be

2955
01:36:48,835 --> 01:36:50,055
fun. We'll all be there.

2956
01:36:50,435 --> 01:36:52,435
And, and once that movie's out, I'll,

2957
01:36:53,074 --> 01:36:54,274
I'll send it I'll send it to you.

2958
01:36:54,274 --> 01:36:55,875
I'll come back on. We'll talk about it.

2959
01:36:55,875 --> 01:36:57,795
Absolutely, man. Looking forward to it. Yeah. If

2960
01:36:57,795 --> 01:36:59,635
you're out there, show some support, guys. People

2961
01:36:59,635 --> 01:37:01,475
in the in this field need it more

2962
01:37:01,475 --> 01:37:02,489
than usual. So

2963
01:37:02,970 --> 01:37:04,329
thanks again, brother. And I'll I'll end with

2964
01:37:04,329 --> 01:37:06,409
this clip of my interview with, with,

2965
01:37:07,850 --> 01:37:09,050
now I'm blanking on his name all of

2966
01:37:09,050 --> 01:37:11,289
a sudden, doctor Martin, doctor David Martin and

2967
01:37:11,289 --> 01:37:12,730
his point just about, you know, who was

2968
01:37:12,730 --> 01:37:14,409
responsible for COVID. I think it's important to

2969
01:37:14,409 --> 01:37:15,925
hear this again so we understand where, you

2970
01:37:15,925 --> 01:37:18,164
know, a patent based, fact based understanding of

2971
01:37:18,164 --> 01:37:20,405
where these things were made is pretty obvious

2972
01:37:20,405 --> 01:37:22,324
right now. So thanks again, brother. Looking forward

2973
01:37:22,324 --> 01:37:23,765
to the next one. And as always, everybody

2974
01:37:23,765 --> 01:37:26,085
out there, question everything. Come to your own

2975
01:37:26,085 --> 01:37:27,545
conclusions. Stay vigilant.

2976
01:37:28,050 --> 01:37:29,890
We should be having a public dialogue, and

2977
01:37:29,890 --> 01:37:31,489
it should be something that rises to the

2978
01:37:31,489 --> 01:37:33,890
level of legislation. We should not allow the

2979
01:37:33,890 --> 01:37:36,210
National Institutes of Health or the Department of

2980
01:37:36,210 --> 01:37:36,710
Defense

2981
01:37:37,090 --> 01:37:39,989
to allocate funding to amplify these agents

2982
01:37:40,395 --> 01:37:42,954
so that, allegedly, we can study them in

2983
01:37:42,954 --> 01:37:44,635
the case that they fall into the hands

2984
01:37:44,635 --> 01:37:46,414
of bad people. Because the evidence

2985
01:37:46,875 --> 01:37:47,934
has shown us

2986
01:37:48,474 --> 01:37:51,194
that the bad people who actually have unleashed

2987
01:37:51,194 --> 01:37:52,014
these pathogens

2988
01:37:52,474 --> 01:37:54,255
since 1991,

2989
01:37:54,960 --> 01:37:56,319
And by the way, if you go to

2990
01:37:56,319 --> 01:37:59,680
miscellaneous memorandum seven and other documents, we can

2991
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,220
go back to the nineteen fifties.

2992
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:04,319
The bad people who unleashed these things on

2993
01:38:04,319 --> 01:38:04,979
the population

2994
01:38:05,520 --> 01:38:06,260
are us.

2995
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:09,015
It is The US who's doing it.