Secretary of state says everyone who's here, citizens
and noncitizens, deserve due process. Do you agree,
mister president? I don't know. I'm not I'm
not a lawyer.
I don't know. Well, the fifth amendment says
I don't know. It seems it seems it
it might say that, but if you're talking
about that, then we'd have to have a
million or 2,000,000 or 3,000,000 trials.
Even given those numbers that you're talking about,
don't you need to uphold the constitution of
The United States as president? I don't know.
I have to respond by saying again,
I have brilliant lawyers that work for me,
and they are going to obviously follow what
the Supreme Court said. What you said is
not what I heard the Supreme Court said.
They have a different interpretation.
A different interpretation.
Some respects it's just as bad now, the
authoritarianism,
that is coming, Gerald. I am really, really
fearful for the president of The United States
Of America to suggest as he did on
Air Force One on Sunday night,
that American
citizens could be deported
for his press secretary to say, we're looking
into,
a way to see if this is legal.
We don't know if it's legal or not.
A, it's terrifying.
B, betrays such a profound ignorance of first
principles to which he is sworn. He is
sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the constitution
and to enforce,
federal law. You mentioned that you're open to
deporting,
individuals that aren't foreign aliens but are criminals
to El Salvador. Does that in does that
include potentially US citizens fully naturalized in Ukraine?
If they're criminals and if they hit people
with baseball bats over their head that happened
to be 90 years old, and
if,
if they rape
87 year old women in Coney Island, Brooklyn
yeah. Yeah. That includes them. What? Do you
think there's special category of person? They're as
bad as anybody that comes in. We have
bad ones too. Profoundly un American, utterly unconstitutional,
and I am sorry to say is coming.
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It just keeps getting crazier.
Every day, every the the escalation of the
same conversation, just
keeps
getting more real and more serious, and it
seems that more and more people that decide
to not wanna see it push back, make
up more arguments. But this just keeps getting
more obvious.
It's really interesting, I think, very revealing to
see people who try to make arguments. I
mean, we're I I I was just being
told on major radio stations today that they
were discussing
that very statement and defending that that what
he said is correct.
In fact, despite the reality that he what
he says is that he doesn't know and
that we're gonna find the nuance, It's insane
to me. Now we're gonna make a point
about that at the end of the show
since we've already really, really, I think, as
much as you can, broken down the reality
of that conversation. There's no nuance to the
idea of whether
illegal aliens or anybody else have rights under
the constitution. And yet what they're trying to
do is create situations where it you can
rationalize
why it's okay to ignore it. Maybe you
don't frame it that way in your mind,
but that's what's happening. Why it's okay for,
in this exception, that the constitution doesn't apply.
And all that does is kick open the
door, well, long since been kicked open in
my opinion, but one more precedent
for these power hungry maniacs to
take away the last bit of what we
think we can use to hold them accountable
or what we can use to influence. When
I say think only because I think most
of what holds this together is just the
last kind of tendrils of opportunism of the
people that use it. You know? But, nonetheless,
they need you to think this all goes
the way it used to. But as I
said, we've gone over this extensively on the
show well before the current conversation, but we'll
touch on that at the end because I
think the video speak to speaks for itself
if you understand the basic fundamental shall not
be infringed in alienable rights of the constitution
and how the literal words apply to everybody
in this country. But
Hey. And we're back.
I live.
Don't know how that seems to happen these
days with gig direct connection or one one
gig up and down direct fiber connection. What
we're dealing with today, but that's how this
tends to work. But let me know in
the chat before I keep going that you
guys can indeed hear what I'm saying. Even
though I'm seeing a live image, let me
know. I'm gonna be getting into the overlapping
point that we've been discussing for quite a
while, which is the general point of
Israeli infiltration of this government. And it's not
in it's hardly a secret conversation right now.
Let me just double check here.
Okay. Yeah. We're good. We're back up and
running. So the point is
it is obviously a major discussion right now
that's being debated at at the highest levels
of damn near everything and yet weirdly still
gets carved out as, like, you're racist if
you even have this conversation from very certain
parts of the conversation.
What I've been trying to highlight for a
long time as well of a lot of
I mean, in fact, plenty of other people
that have been doing it for decades longer
than I have, and I and I point
to their work damn near every time we
talk about this, in regard to people that
are highlighting the infiltration
of the tech field by specifically Israeli intelligence.
I mean, it is literally everywhere you look.
Wait. I I reference usually when I have
this conversation, the the article Whitney wrote for
TLav back in,
I think it was twenty twenty three, twenty
four, and it was about it's called The
Prince and the Spy. She also posted on
unlimited hangout.
That that is a conversation of Erik Prince
and Israeli spies and the overlap and how
they use him to essentially get their foot
in the door. But one of the main
parts in there is about how whether it's
CARBINE nine one one or just CARBINE now,
other companies, that these are essentially extensions of
the Israeli intelligence apparatus, and it's not even
secret. They've written articles about how they how
and we'll today, we'll make that even more
clear for those that still think that's not
the reality.
But many different ways, they make sure you
understand that that's the reality of this, that
their unit their intelligence tendrils or connections are
continuing to, either while they're still active in
the community or they're no longer part of
it, build tech companies that they then openly
state are for the interest of Israel and
their intelligence apparatus.
The problem is that we've seen this develop
with, like, the pager conversation in Lebanon and
other places where they make it clear they're
willing to just insanely violate the law, commit
terrorist acts, and call it freedom.
But what we try to show in this
country well before this administration is how much
the Israeli government has worked its way into
controlling policy,
surveillance,
as Whitney's covered, nine one one call centers,
water infrastructure,
medical infrastructure. I mean, very real time conversations
of exactly the national security risks that they
use to point at anybody else.
And today, we're gonna highlight a story that's
been going around for a few days now.
I think this first and the second is
when the first part of this really broke.
And we've already mentioned this the last couple
shows, I think, yesterday more so than ever.
And this is about the conversation of Mike
Waltz and or the Iran conversation and how
this all went down.
All the couple points about that. What I
found more interest interesting is the whole signal
overlap. Back even going back to HEGSAT, the
signal point, and the Yemen conversation and how
Israel was upset that they're they were involved
with that chat. Remember, that came out early
that they were upset about something involved with
that. Okay? And then we get to the
point we have the signal gate or whatever
they called it. And then we get to
the point to where now it's being revealed
that there was a hack through this,
and we'll get into the the kind of
opaque part of who that hacker may be
and so on. But this is very important
that this is because of the use of
what what Mike Waltz was caught using of
what's called TeleMessage, which is an Israeli intelligence
linked
essentially, an archive.
Like, they it you it's like it you
connect it with your signal, and it archives
your signal conversations and everybody involved with them
and sends it back to the cloud or,
in this case, Israeli servers. That's what this
is
about. Of course, we're nothing nefarious. We're just
helping you archive your conversations, except now we
see how this is playing out. And it
turns out the state department's been using it
for a long time. So has the CDC.
So has the HHS.
And this is profoundly
important. And it's and see this what people
will try to make it into, like, everything
today is some kind of current partisan divide
that you're on Trump's side or you're on
the Democrat's side. This is all of them.
That's the insane part about this. Mike Waltz
and the overlap, I think, just made this
clumsily obvious. And, of course, we keep seeing
how things are being shuffled around, and they're
trying to make it about who was actually
wanting to go into war with Iran when
it seems like all of them are different
flavors and shades of how much they wanna
go to war with Iran. I think what
happened there was that something got exposed,
and they had to move Mike Waltz out
of the way because he's one of the
most prolifically
outs you know, outspoken Zionist, all about Israel,
which probably is most of Trump's cabinet.
And so if they're all using this
even just signal, by the way, and are
compromising in possible ways with that, but overlapping
that with the telemessage dynamic, which they all
seem to be using.
Realistically, this just seems like Israel's just completely
tapped into every function of the current executive
branch or maybe all of it.
I mean, it's absolutely mind blowing how this
is coming out and the focus is on
anything but that.
And, of course, the overlap with the ongoing
wars, the the overlap with,
you know, the health dynamic in this country
with the Stargate program and the technocratic drive,
globalism, the Everything we're seeing build is coming
from what I think is this central driving
force. And that's not to say one group
or the other. Understand, it's about a kind
of collaboration
of a lot of different interests, but it
ultimately does come down to driving forces.
But what I'm gonna start with here before
we get into anything else, just as an
interest two notes, actually. One is an image
of of under going underground video that I
think is just
important to see, that I definitely see overlapping
in a lot of ways, but I'll let
you place it where you will that I
wanted to include. It doesn't really relate to
the rest we're getting into except for the
obvious overlaps. And then a few of the
points from yesterday's show just to cite really
quickly with, like in, like, one minute to
make sure you didn't miss the kind of
highlights of yesterday's show, which were buried throughout
it, which are very important. Now first is
this video, and this is really interesting.
Answer why your son allows Starlink to be
used by Ukrainian troops, or is that because
of a contract This is Elon Musk's father.
He's speaking with Elon Musk's father about Starlink
and use with Ukraine, and a very interesting
piece of information comes up, which certainly could
be made up. But it's interesting to hear
who it's saying it and what it's what
it's about. Sure thing. It's not Elon Musk
saying to Zelensky,
yeah. Use this for the navigation,
systems for drones to attack drones. Yes.
No. Elon,
Elon's approach,
he's a businessman.
He has a system. It's meant to help
people. It's not meant to be used
by one side against the other. And if
you are going to be given be given,
if you're going to be judged properly, you
would naturally,
offer this to both sides. Now he did
cancel Stalin when there was talk of Ukraine,
attacking Sebastopol. He canceled Stalin for the for
the Ukraine. And,
he provided,
Stalin for the Ukraine
at the very beginning of the conflict because
it was the common sense thing to do.
But your understanding is it's being used now
again, and he has the ability to switch
it off. So why doesn't he
switch it off? Well well, the minute he
switches it off, he'd be, you know, taking
sides. And that's not that's not what his
job is. If we can just jump a
bit to,
to Israel,
you know,
shortly after
the
horrible events of October,
in a month or two after that, the
Hamas actually contacted me, the leaders of Hamas
contacted me to to ask me if I
could persuade Elon to give Hamas,
a stolen.
And I did. I went I got more
you know, I said, look. There are two
sides to this argument. You know? And he
agreed, and he he gave them Solan,
on the basis that it's just a new
yes. I am sure about that. He he
he gave them Solan because the intent the
idea was, the suggestion
was, from Stalin's point of view, that it
should be there
for humanitarian
purposes.
You know, so as as as
Because because the most people think Elon Musk
is completely
partisan, and I know you've said Netanyahu is
a family friend.
And that Yes.
That doesn't mean that, you know, that doesn't
mean that you
you do all
all fairness.
In our family, and speaking for myself and
my son, we see that in every situation,
there are two sides to every argument.
Well, isn't that fascinating?
Now,
personally,
that's off I mean, with how much manipulation
and, you know, psychological operate I mean, anything's
possible and always has been. And whether or
not this guy is lying for an interest
of something else, his son asked him, but
who knows? Or maybe that's the reality. What
I think is fascinating about it
is
taking for sake for sake of conversation. And
and since it's his father and he seems
to be speaking with some kind of insight,
maybe he wasn't supposed to say it, the
interesting thing is as we keep seeing with
Starlink.
Right? Every single time we've seen Starlink deployed
in some kind of guise of humanitarianism,
it has been before or in the midst
of an important shift in a warfare dynamic.
Every single place we've seen in regard even
even the Honduras overlap is is basically a
technocratic takeover of landed in Honduras or any
other dynamic like that or your conversation of
what's the last one we just saw? Was
it the Sudan? I forget which one it
was. The point was, yet again, another example
of more warfare.
It's it the what we have to recognize
in my opinion, at least as I see
that we know it's a part of it.
I see it as a central part, if
not the only part in my opinion. Starlink
is a part of the defense department kind
of technocratic government control structure apparatus. Like, it
is about using that, not just for warfare,
but that's the clear,
I guess, foot in the door. But, you
know, there's plenty of ways to frame that.
But, overall, that this is about something that
is about the growing kind of control structure
as Catherine Austin Fitts calls the digital,
grid you know, surveillance grid. I mean, it's
very clear how this all comes together. So
that first point, I think, is interesting that
he talks about that happening in any context,
but then he says Hamas,
that that that he gave it to Hamas
right after October 7. I mean, how in
the world does that possibly make sense to
anybody? Now, of course, again, he could just
be mistaken, I guess. But think about what
that would mean, whether that means that that
was all there beforehand or whether that implies
some kind of a deeper connection to the
foreknowledge,
right, the idea that everyone knew what was
gonna happen beforehand, there are all this big
gap there, I mean, all these weird examples
of the whole let it happen kinda dynamic.
Or, you know, any number of these weird
points that if Starlink was there and he's
working with Hamas, like, wouldn't that be a
huge issue? Like, what even like, a legal
sense. You're we're you're this is they're saying
a terrorist organization. You're helping supply them with,
you know, or how would Israel be okay
with that? Netanyahu being a close family friend.
I mean, all these different points there. I
just think you know, it's just understand, again,
very clearly, this is all subjective. Like, this
is coming from a guy, as much as
it's Elon's father, that's making a statement that
is backed up by nothing but his who
he is. So what I'll only thing I
find fascinating, assuming we can prove that more,
is what that would imply and worth the
thought experiment. To think about how that might
connect with the rest of the things we're
seeing, and, personally, I think it's more of
an indication of how this is,
you know, one big interconnected thing we're seeing.
And what that is is one more example
that this was more than just one event
in one location that we're seeing pieces moved
into place. I thought that was pretty interesting.
Now here is the actual tweet
as always so you could check it out
for yourself. Going underground does good work.
Now
we yesterday's show, amendment stopping deportation of US
citizens was voted down by the by by
Republicans.
But, again, to understand as always, I don't
think it's left and right in all this.
I think they play their sides when they
need to. And whether they know that or
not, I I think you can prove that
over history. But either way, the idea that
any American would vote down
something that would explicitly state
simply and and solely that you cannot deport
US citizens, which by the way, you don't
need an amendment to make that case. That's
already the law. It's like saying a law
that says you have the right to own
a gun. You don't need to pass a
new law that says that. Seeing as how
we already know that. So it's one of
the worries was that they make these things
happen, so we then wonder whether it's defined
or not when it already is despite all
of it. Literally didn't voted down something saying
you couldn't deport US citizens. So whether this
is all a big ploy and hype to
get us looking somewhere else or not,
things like that seem to come real today.
Well, even if it was built on an
idea of just a you know, like, Greenland
or Panama, like, if that was all a
big troll until it kinda became real, and
maybe it seems like it's gonna happen. Panama
sure as hell actually happened. The point is
whether they were meant to be real or
not, they kinda have a habit of coming
real. And so it worries me, and I'll
frankly, I think it's not a ploy. I
think that the idea of deporting Americans is
something that is very important for where this
all goes and has nothing to do with
America First.
And RFK Jr's universal flu vaccine platform also
happening. But in case you missed yesterday's show,
there's a couple of quick bullet points I
want you to not that you hope you
don't miss. On top of everything else we're
seeing and Trump floating the idea on top
of El Salvador of sending
deported people
to Rwanda and Libya for a third world
safe country. Even though if you look it
up, those are two of the almost well,
specifically, Libya is, like, one of the most
dangerous places. Like, if you ask your own
government or anybody else if it's safe to
even travel there, they'll say no. And yet
we're gonna send them there to be safe,
and people that they claim were just seeking
asylum. So if you come to the gate
seeking asylum, looking for the American dream, we're
told, he's telling you we're gonna send you
over to Libya and put you to prison.
In this case, Alabama, on top of this,
on the thirtieth said,
we're gonna pass look to pass legislation
to send inmates to foreign prisons.
See, that's how this happens. So let's just
say that was all sort of a joke
or a ploy or a, you know, troll.
Well, suddenly, Alabama doesn't care. Alabama's personally as
a state trying to pass laws that allow
them to send their own prisoners,
American prisoners to foreign countries.
And then once that happens, if it does,
well, now we're see how that gets loosened
up. And now suddenly, they're gonna say, well,
you're a bad criminal. I'll send you there
too. All of this is so wildly and
easily proven to be unconstitutional.
It's sad to me that so many Americans
don't seem to know that. And I think
it's being led by groups that do know
that but don't care.
On top of that, RFK Jr's HHS ordered
labs to study dead labs studying deadly infections
to stop research
for Dietrich.
You just read the headline. You go, okay.
Yay. He's doing good. Well, that's not what's
actually happening. If you read the article, the
main point
is that there's a problem. NIH has implemented
what they call a safety stand down.
At Fort Detrick, yet again, the the decision
follows identification and documentation of personal issues involving
contact contract staff and that compromise the facility's
safety culture.
That's exactly what happened before the COVID nineteen
dynamic.
Exactly the same thing. The shutdown, the leak,
all of it. Now or whether it really
happened or not is for you to decide.
The narrative, we heard the same. So who
knows if this becomes something else or not?
But I think it's interesting how that gets
framed and how people online are acting like
he's going after Ford. No. This is a
claim shutdown because of a potential leak.
That's just interesting to note for if something
happens forward, but also because they're still doing
all this stuff. Now, also, as Mary Talley
Bowden points out, we have opened Pandora's box.
These are all the mRNA products that the
in the pipeline according to Grock.
Moderna's got 48 of them.
Biotech, HIRVAC, that's that's
that's Elon Musk, Pfizer.
These are all mRNA. Now that's not all
the government making that happen, but the government
is funding a lot of these like we
know with the bird flu shot. We also
have NIH, HHS,
universal vaccine platform.
Now it doesn't say mRNA, but like I
said before, if you guys have insight into
this, let me know. I don't know how
it can be a platform dynamic without being
mRNA, but I'm not an expert. So it's
interesting it's happening either way, and these are
not what people said was what we wanted.
On top of that, Republicans moved to vote
to stop ICE from deporting US citizens. Same
same point. I've I just put that in
twice. That's that's the one from earlier.
Oh, actually, no. I hadn't showed the link
the article. That's what it is. I just
showed the title, but that's the article and
literally easy to read. It's not a secret.
It's not some scammercrat ploy. It's exactly what
it looks like. Of course, also, if you
didn't know this, very this is Ryan Grim,
drop site news, very important article. Secret Bukele
deal lies behind Trump's El Salvador deportation deportations.
Exactly what I was worried about that I
felt around this. That it seems there are
deals between this dictator, who he calls himself
a dictator, and trying to get people back
to his country. I I get my gut
tells me it's also people that are dissidents.
They just have something to say about him
that he doesn't like because, overall, it's about
MS thirteen gang members that you can prove
he made deals with. There's evidence all over
the place that's been highlighted, and this goes
back to the the US government calling that
out. Different parts of our government saying he
made deals with MS thirteen to basically coordinate
on some illusion of of cracking down on
crime.
And now he wants them back because he's
worried about what they might say in front
of US courts. At least that's the argument.
So there's so much going on here that
shows that we are that, you know, a
deal with the devil is what this looks
like. Acting like we're saving democracy by working
with the worst people in the world. Saudi
Arabia, Israel, the ones that are obviously committing
the most human rights violations, but it's okay
because they have the right kind of politics
or whatever game you play.
Insane to me.
Now, of course, this is what we're gonna
start with. Former national security adviser Mike Waltz
was caught using TeleMessage
signal, an Israeli
modifying
version of signal, which archives features
to receive and relay potentially classified information
or anything you're using on that app. So
whether the people that know it or not,
Trump, whoever else, egg Seth, or, by the
way, other chats we're gonna get to in
a second that include people like Tucker Carlson,
Mark Anderson, who are involved in these same
signal chats, and I'm willing to argue that
it's the same problem, and all of this
is being funneled back through totally not in
America First conversation.
This is really important.
Now, again, this is something that's been going
on for the last few days. But what
I wanna get into is some of the
specifics in this that aren't really getting focused
on by the quasi mainstream part of this
conversation.
Now before we get to that, I we
were mentioning yesterday the the boycott build, yet
another one. Never stops in this country, it
seems. Even though and somehow we can't manage
to wrap our minds around this same thing
that always happens that never I mean, that
is fundamentally unconstitutional, whether it's anti BDS or
anything else. And it always seems to be
out one one foreign government, and yet we
can't have an honest conversation about what that
is and how that shows you exactly what
we're talking about. But Khaleesi says the bill
has now been pulled. Now that is a
good thing, but I I wonder I think
there's two ways to look at it. That
one this is one more effort to drive
even more in for the Israeli government. And
because most Americans left and right don't want
this, regardless, they do it anyway every time.
But there was too much pushback, so they
pulled back and waited. Secondarily,
I get the sense there's more to this
about
rationalizing
the other ones that already exist or rather
hiding that. Because there are plenty of bills
right now, whether anti BDS or actually anti
boycott.
Because this one was about extending this out
to other governments or the UN
discussing these things and you supporting that. Right
now in this country, whether this is pulled
back or not, there's already bills on in
law that say you're not allowed to boycott
Israel. Now whether that's enforced is another conversation.
We'll go over that. But good news that
this was pulled back.
Up to a million dollar in fines, $20
in prison. I mean or $20, 20 years
in prison
To for an American, you understand?
For exercising your first amendment rights. Now let's
secondarily stand over here and reflect on people
like Khalil and and Ozturk and other people
who are here legally, who are currently in
prison
for speech. And let's pretend like that's not
the exact same conversation or the hundred times
Trump has said openly that he will censor
you for Israel, and we pretend like that's
not the case. Jen esk girl points out
Mike Lauer, who's the agent behind this,
sponsored 50 pro Israeli bills, money for Israel,
weapons for Israel, technology for Israel, censored criticism
of Israel, criminalized freedom of assembly, criminalized boycotts
of Israel, sanctioned UN employees because of Israel.
Of course, he has o almost $700,000
in donations from Israeli lobby groups.
And here he is saying on the fourth,
the anti boycott act, this is the one
from 02/2018.
So all those pretending like this is some
kind of massive like, that this was a
what you're gonna get is a lot of
people on the right that wanna make this
seem as if that was the one thing
that proves they're not actually con controlled by
Israel or that they're not blinded
basically, not America First.
But forgetting the fact that they already have
bills right now like this or laws.
Anti and let's be clear,
plenty of other precedents, by the way, but
Mabry versus Madison is one of the best
to cite the site in my opinion. If
it is repugnant to the constitution, it's null
and void. That is supreme court ruling. There's
more that make the same case. The argument
is just because they pass a law that
says something does not make it constitutional, and
if it's repugnant to the constitution, it is
null and void according to the Supreme
Court. So let's let's be clear. It's not
just Donald Trump's administration right now that violates
the Supreme Court rulings or the law in
general of the land constitution.
But nonetheless, it exists.
The Anti Boycott Act was passed into law
in 02/2018
to prevent US businesses from participating in boycotts
against American allies
pushed by foreign governments. Now, see, that's the
subjective part of this where they claim you're
falling for what Russia wants, and there's no
evidence to back that up. This expand and
even if it was, it's still your right
to think what you want. But it says
this expands existing federal law to any boycott
organized by IGOs like the United Nations. That
was the newest part of it.
Trump president
president Trump signed the first bill into law.
Of course, he did because this is nothing
new. This is simply holding the UN accountable.
The UN, see, this is about clearly what
Israel wants. And whether it's about the UN
or or some terrorist organization, the point is
as an American, you can think and say
what you want. You could boycott what you
want. The idea that they argue that doing
things and saying things or rather thinking things
and saying things is somehow against the law,
there's laws on the books for all of
that. If you give material support to a
group that's illegal, then that law exists already.
This is not the same thing. They're trying
to conflate your ideas with crimes
because that's totally constitutional. Right? Which by the
way only exist in the realm of Israel
from Americans. Explain to me how that's not
the most obvious thing in the world. You
can criticize every way you could boycott the
American government in front of Washington DC, in
front of the White House, but you can't,
in The United States, boycott Israel.
Same point everybody makes. It's that clear. President
Trump signed the first bill into law. Simply
holding you on accountably, he says. Was president
Trump virtue signaling when he signed the original
bill? And when did you become defender? So,
basically, what he's trying to say
is that Trump
well, what he's trying to do is call
out Gates down here who's trying to, I
argue, be opportunist and saying we shouldn't do
this. But, you know, maybe some of them
really have a line when it comes to
Israel. I don't it's hard for me to
believe that when you see what they've done.
The point is, these are people defending this.
The laws already exist. Now Charlie Kirk, and
this is my point, there's an interesting divide
right now amongst the right.
And I don't I I don't know where
to define it, whether it is just people
like this who are recognizing they'll lose too
much following if they admit they do want
this or they do whatever they're paid to
say.
I don't know. Opportunism or not, the point
is there does seem to be a line
whether opportunism or not for a lot of
the people where they come out and say,
well, that's too far. And he says, tomorrow,
the house will vote on this bill, eight
h r eight six seven, a bill that
will criminalize
private boycotts of Israel.
So bills like the like this only create
more antisemitism. That's the design, quite frankly, And
play into growing narratives that Israel is running
the US government, which it is. That's see,
this is him playing his little his game
in here. The point is, what this is
meant to do is create the hatred towards
the group they tell you is running behind
all this, Jewish people, which is what Netanyahu
and all the rest are saying. We're doing
all this to protect Jews, and it's all
about the state of the Jews alone. And
then when you turn around and, incorrectly, because
he's baiting you, say, Yeah. It's all because
of the Jews. Well, that's they go, See?
We need all this because everybody hates the
Jews. It is this constant
and clumsy thing that everyone can see right
now. The bottom line is, yes, it does
involve a Jewish supremacist overlap that Beth Salomon
will call out. That's the Zionist influence. But
there's a massively growing number of Jews, Orthodox
and otherwise, that are calling this out. Zionism
does not represent us. And that's not to
say Judaism is all good and everything's fantastic,
and Zionism is all bad and all evil.
The point is, very clearly, there's always nuance.
There are people that believe one thing and
fight for something else. The bottom line is
if you try to make it about one
thing alone, you're lying to yourself because you
can prove that's not the case. There are
Christian Zionists. There are even atheist Zionists in
Israel that are prominent. If you don't know
how to make sense of that, then you're
not paying attention.
So the problem is he comes out and
makes the case,
rightly so, that it will create more anti
semitism, but to downplay the idea that Israel,
not the Jews, Israel and their government are
absolutely
I mean, might as well be driving the
bus of the United States government. In America,
he says, if you are allowed to hold
different views, or you are, you are allowed
to disagree and protest. We've allowed far too
many people to hate America, move here from
abroad, but the right to speak freely is
the birthright of all Americans.
You know, the idea a lot it's just
it's the same kind of idea that but
he tries to play in this very tight
line. If you really pushed it, these people
would censor you if you are on the
wrong side of a conversation, and they've already
made that clear 40 times over.
Even with this, even the idea, even Israel,
these people are the ones that wanted to
shut down people protesting. So let's not pretend
like they mean what they're saying here. He
says the bill should not pass. Any Republican
that votes for this bill will expose themselves.
See, they're always it's always, like, all or
nothing. Right? Absolutism. They're all on our side
or on the other side. You're either with
us or you're against us. That's not the
reality, guys. But that's how they get you
pulled into these things. And now people pretend
like he's somehow totally not playing the same
game we can all see.
Alex Jones, same thing. Even Marjorie Taylor Greene
said, I'll be voting no, which I'm glad
to see. I sense opportunism, but you can
decide. Alex Jones literally says today, how is
this even real?
You know, what it's just how do you
even supposed to take something like that? And
I said, gotta laugh at this false confusion,
sort of like the Tucker g gosh golly
kinda thing reacts like he hasn't heard of
things people like Katharine Fitz are saying even
though you know when it's been dismissed. The
point is, gotta laugh at this false confusion
from the man who ignored the obvious that
many of us were shoving in his face.
And by the way,
this is just yet another of many unconstitutional
anti boycott or anti BDS bills that those
you blindly support have always backed. You think
he doesn't know that?
How is this even real?
Because you obviously know and I'm ignoring it
the entire time. And now, yes, I'm glad
it hasn't passed. But the point is it
already exists, and here again is the link
to Trump saying 17 times over that he
will censor you for Israel. We'll get rid
of the Jew haters. We'll get rid of
whatever they wanna argue. And even if they're
actually people who just hate Jews for no
reason, that's not illegal, and you have a
right to think and say what you want.
But the truth is they're framing people who
wanna fight for Palestine as you haters, and
you damn well know it. And, frankly, the
overlap
is, you know, whether the the point is
that on the side like, if you wanna
really make an argument about racism, the people
who are trying now across the world screaming
about racism are some of the most racist
people on the planet.
Now
here is the bill itself
pulled as an article from yesterday as GOP
defends right to boycott Israel. Now I wouldn't
frame it as the GOP defends the right
to boycott Israel because quite frankly, the GOP
is largely what's driving this bill. But either
way, there are some of them that are
pushing back on this. An amendment
to the anti boycott act of 2018,
because this is the idea. It's an amendment
to add on to the original act passed
by Donald Trump's last administration,
was pulled from a Monday scheduled vote,
announced Sunday evening after initial news about the
vote drew mass opposition.
From across the political spectrum, Republicans, Democrats, and
Libertarians alike voiced their opposition. Yes. Because it's
unconstitutional.
The idea that we if if anything, we
can get on board together as something basic
like the first amendment.
But even then, they find ways to wedge
people wedge these issues right in between all
of us, and
it says,
voice their opposition to the intergovernmental
organization
or IGO anti boycott act, waging concern that
it stands
as an affront to the first amendment by
compelling speech and business transactions. It's not
the the way they frame it as if
we're debating this, this is this is all
this is absolute. It's obvious.
This is an idea that you cannot boycott
something. If you can't piece together that that's
a violation of your ability to make your
own ideas, then you're lying to yourself. So
this is not up for debate. What they're
doing is unconstitutional.
If you want it, then argue, I'm okay
violating the constitution where it suits my interests.
Otherwise, you're being dishonest with yourself. It says,
quote, thank you for your vocal opposition on
this platform. It was a ridiculous bill that
our leadership should never have scheduled for a
vote. That was Marjorie Taylor Greene, I believe.
Under the anti boycott act of 2018, an
American individual,
This is what already currently exists regardless of
this amendment being pushed away for now. I
argue it will come back under another form
and another idea, under some new,
you know, buzz issue that happens that justifies
why it should happen another way. You know,
some of the new migrant issue, another shooting,
and whatever it is. You know, some framing
to get you to go, oh, now we
need that thing again for a totally different
reason. Happens every time.
But in 02/2018,
the act,
an American individual, company, or organization participating in
or supporting a boycott of US ally, a
US ally, they damn well know who they're
pointing to, imposed by a foreign government can
be fined up to a million dollars and
receive up to twenty years in prison.
If HR eight six seven were to pass,
it would extend this penalty to Americans participating
in boycotts of US allies promoted or endorsed
by intergovernmental
organizations, such as the United Nations or European
Union. So as of right now see, half
the people talking about this online already don't
understand this. And we're right now, they're already
a situation where they can do what everyone
kinda thinks this was supposed to do. This
was a broadening out of it to argue
that you couldn't because what they recognize are
international community led efforts, the ICC, the ICJ,
the United Nations, I mean, even the European
Union. If the European Union decided to make
a case about why what they're doing is
illegal,
that would be prominent, guys. Whether you agree
with what their intentions are or not, they
know how important that would be and how
much influence it would get, so they're trying
to get ahead of it because they see
the writing on the wall. It says, but
it's
but but as it stands, there are no
known instances of Americans boycotting
US allies besides Israel. So let's not pretend
like they don't know exactly who this is
aimed at. That's I didn't even know that
actually. And and the idea that
I mean, I almost find that hard to
believe that we can argue that there's no
I I would argue what they're saying is
a institutionalized,
like, through a major organization, but the point
is that Israel is the focal point of
people protesting for obvious reasons. This is moreover
over the weekend, the libertarian platform, the Mises
Caucus, wrote on Twitter that anti BDS laws
restricting boycotts
of Israel have long been an affront to
free association and free speech. So as it
stands, that's an unconstitutional reality that we live
in.
HR eight seven six seven is a direct
violation of the first amendment. Not the new
amendment, that too, but as it stands already
on the books. This will grow American opposition
to Israel faster,
leading to more desperate regime crackdowns and so
on. Now you could argue that from Israel's
perspective, that is the design, designed to point
at all of that as why we need
more of this stuff because you're all disgusting
and racist as they literally murder people based
on their race.
Now, to get to the the
the oh, actually, before we get to the
point is I wanna talk about oh, that's
right. I forgot I included these
very quickly because I wanna get to the
conversation. We referenced this from Max Blumenthal earlier,
like yesterday's show, and the overarching point of
two main articles from DropSite News and from
four zero four. That goes to the signal
clone the Trump admin used was hacked. That
was yesterday. Because that's the that's a development
on top of the fact that Mike Waltz
was even using that app. So think about
the timing of this to where on the
second you get the conversation that Mike Waltz
is caught using an Israeli clone signal app
that basically for laying all of their internal
national security conversations
back to Israel.
And then of two days later,
we find out they were hacked through the
app that they're discussing. Does that not seem
like some kind I mean, we'll get into
what that could be, contrived or maybe Israel's
self or maybe somebody recognizing the vulnerability that
Israel allowed for their own purposes and took
advantage.
It's insane to me that this is that
obvious. But before we get to that, I
wanted to reiterate the points we're talking about
here, especially since our conversation
is the the overarching point about Israeli infiltration
of politics.
And that's not just this current administration. This
is just the most obvious I've ever seen
it. It goes back a long way. Here
again is professor Ilan Poppe talking about what
he knows and has seen in the past
and even cites what Obama said in his
own memoir about how Israel controls Congress. The
book coming out, which is called lobbying for
Zionism
across the Atlantic, and I show how from
1900,
both in America and in Britain, you target
politicians wherever they are. At the beginning of
their career, you commit them to Zionism and
later to Israel.
And at first, of course, they were not
powerful enough to influence enough people. But, you
know, the more they grew in numbers, they
were able to influence more. So when people
say, why does Biden so automatically Israel.
He knows the rules. He knows what happened
to anyone who even dare to slightly, like
Obama or Carter, slightly challenged what happened to
them. You read Obama's memoirs,
you can see how he said, I suddenly
understood. Any word I'm saying in Israel can
bring down Congress. So I had to be
very, very careful. And actually, what he says,
he admits, I could not be loyal to
my basic instinct, which was to be pro
Palestinian. I couldn't because I wouldn't be a
president.
Now like I said before, I don't know
if I believe that or that's just Obama
trying to play the you know, all you're
really admitting is that you're dishonest.
Right? That somehow because if you look at
his administration, it's not like he tried to
get, you know, ultimately, he towed the line
like everybody else. So I don't I just
don't take that at face value, but it's
information that is worth hearing even if it's
opportunism because that's the point to keep making.
That's what we need as individuals to acknowledge,
not accept and be okay with, but acknowledge
that exists and use.
Use the opportunism of young of smaller politicians
out there that want to take advantage of
what we can see that they know everybody
sees.
Doesn't get a lot of influence because they're
not the higher ups on the scale, but
might recognize they can get more benefit from
leaning into the people telling the truth because
we are the people that we need support
from that and and whether the Jews is
worth the squeeze and counterbalance to what Israel
will do to them for calling it out.
You know, it's it's like it's there are
enough of them that are willing to do
that. And I think right now, we have
to keep leaning into that. Now here is
another example of how clear this is. Gen
X girl and you guys have seen this.
We referenced it once before. The the four
part series called the lobby.
Exactly what we're talking about. The very clear
overlap of how this happens. And it's not
just the lobbying groups themselves. It's the billionaire
financiers and the tech moguls behind the scenes
that are pulling these strings. That is what
we're gonna get to overlapping with this with
the Andreessen
Karp Heel kind of overlap to all this
that led people to make this Trump administration
what it is right now. First, as she
says, I hear the convicted criminal, Adam Milstein,
and his foundation for defensive democracy
is behind the takedown of Steve Witkoff.
There this is an undercover investigation that will
reveal who this Israeli foreign agent is and
what he's doing to destroy America. This is
a clip one of the clips.
Oh, just jump down on me. Four part
series of lobby about the Israeli lobby. I'm
only gonna play a couple, like, a couple
minutes of it. It's a fourteen minute clip.
The clip focuses on Adam Milstein and the
foundation for defense of democracy,
which is not what it appears to be.
Highly recommend watching. Here's the first part of
it. And as she says herself, it will
give you a glimpse of the infiltration.
In part one, how anonymous websites smear supporters
of the BDS movement. Use the name of
our daughter. They're capable of doing anything. It's
psychological warfare.
Drives them crazy. It's not such a partnership,
but I I think it's not serious.
Yeah. Our undercover reporter, Tony, is having a
coffee with Eric, his boss at the Israel
project.
Tony wanted to find out more about Canary
Mission.
There's a guy named Adam Millsko, who you
might wanna be. He's a convicted fella.
That's the bad way to describe it. He's
a real estate mogul.
When I was working with him when I
said it back, I was literally emailing back
and forth with him while he was in
jail.
But he's nervous. I mean, he's close to
half a million dollars.
Adam Milstein has become a central figure in
the lobby.
And just a really quick point.
You know, there that that's peanuts compared to
some of what these people have. I mean,
you know, hundreds of billions of dollars. Right?
This guy is half a million, like and
he is wildly influential. So just think of
the kind of influence and ability that
that kind of wealth and resources gives you
today. And then also when you buy a
social engineering app or you know? And it's
not just Elon Musk. It's just an obvious
example of how that is it's overwhelmingly
obvious, the kind of all unfettered access, influence,
control that people can have over far too
much.
And this one is about specifically the lobbies
and US Politicians.
His foundation funds numerous pro Israel organizations.
He also sits on the boards of APAC's
National Council, the Israel on Campus Coalition,
and Stand With Us.
Our reporter filmed him alongside Jacob Boehm from
the Israel on Campus Coalition
at the Stand With Us conference in Los
Angeles.
The two men had lengthy private discussions.
Milstein is close to probably the wealthiest donor
to the pro Israel lobby, Sheldon Adelson.
Adelson's money helped Milstein expand the Israeli American
president
Trump. I remember Adelson passed away, his wife
who's adviser to president Trump.
I remember Adelson passed away. His wife, who's
right there next to him, basically took up
the reins and is carrying the very same
influence.
Basic you know, what whatever you wanna see
it as. To me, it is an a,
you know, lobbying influential oligarch type of dynamic
where they work their way into US politics
and whoever else in the world we're talking
about. And don't forget, I'll show you the
link afterward. Miriam Adelson, his wife,
offered Trump a hundred billion dollars, and it's
gone up since then in regard to allowing
the annexation of the West Bank and everything
else that we know, which is literally happening.
That's illegal. There's no question. And here we
are. Giuliani, of course, playing his typical role
like the rest of them involved with this
or the Dershowitz and the rest. They all
very clearly are on a side. And they
you know, people that wanna pretend like they
believe in the law or the constitution will
like this
will always show you who they are when
it comes to this conversation.
An IAC video from the conference shows Milstein
and Adelson discussing their partnership. You said you
see the vision, and you tell us go
and do it. And we took your orders,
and we made it happen. And we took
your
And
we
took
your money.
There's somebody else around that
Right. We took your orders, and we made
it happen.
Pretty clear.
An IAC video from the conference shows Milstein
and Adelson discussing their partnership. You said you
see the vision, and you tell us go
and do it. And we took your orders,
and we made it happen.
And we took your money.
There's somebody else around that can give you
a $50,000,000?
There's no Sheldon.
Eric is wary of Adelson's relationship with the
US President. He's really impulsive if he gets
a call from, you know, Donald
Trump. He's like, get all the programs, organizations,
and start helping us. He starts putting their
arms, putting pressure on them. So Trump said,
get all the Israeli organizations to start helping
us. Like, that they this is tapping into
like, and it's just like with Israel is,
Netanyahu and Kabir and Smotra. It's like leaning
into the radical parts of everything in order
to gain control over the process.
Same down same conversations happening right in this
is old. This is old. This is not
a new documentary. So it's amazing how much
information can be out there about this stuff,
you know, on the record kind of stuff.
And there's they're not hiding these connections, guys.
But with every day, we get more and
more and more information showing you that this
is not just a partnership. It's not just
a handshake.
Right? This one or the other is controlling
some one or the other. Right? My opinion,
it's obvious that Israel is dictating US policy.
Plenty argue that it's the other way around,
but either way, there is an incestuous relationship
that is not in your interest,
whether American or Israeli, if you're paying attention.
I could be a million dollars.
You better start bringing out CBS. What the
It's not our fault.
We made a ship with the US President.
It's really impulsive that he gets a call
from, you know, dollars around. You know? And
so they get all the programs to organizations
to start helping us. It starts putting their
arms and putting pressure on them. Like, I'd
give you a million dollars.
You better start putting out CVS.
Wow. It's not
Tony attended the Israeli American Council's annual conference.
At a party, he spotted the IAC's chairman,
Adam Milstein.
It's very important we're bound to this. Oh,
and that's all you know. I was born
to move to the And I'm It's very
important to work out to this. We're not
oh, you know, I was born to because
I lived that to and I'm not sure
how
to
do
with.
Israel. This is really different now all over
the world.
I'm Tony. I can be Israel. So he
just so he said, this is all now
all over the world. Now this is the
point. Is is there there's an interconnected dynamic
that they've created through the Zionist Israeli culture
that people around the world, whether connected to
Israel or not.
Right? That that that's
Judaism is a religion. That's it.
Whether connected to Israel or not, the idea
becomes
that they need to have this idea that
they're part of the same ecosystem and fight
for the same things.
Now that that that's not to say everybody
who has that mindset is doing it for
nefarious reasons, but understand that. And there's a
lot of people from these groups, from the
IDF who've who've left or Israelis or people
who have spoken out over the years or
former CIA or Mossad who tell you that
that's what this agenda is and how they
use the racist idea, the antisemitism idea to
trap people into hot people scared from criticism.
That's never the and never a way to
say that that doesn't exist. People are racist
out there, clearly.
But it's to show how well they use
this stuff, and they built this. Right? And
that's that's the conversation about the dual nationality
point, which should apply to literally any dual
nationality,
not Jewish, but Israeli
citizenship and American citizenship or Chinese citizenship and
American citizenship at the same point no matter
where you are. I just want you to
continue to hear how they've built this out.
And what you're seeing here is how he
is a central linchpin to the funding lobby
dynamic even through the defensive democracy point, which
is not, you know, seen as being a
part of that.
Milstein told Tony how critics of Israel should
be handled.
Now see what this is is an Israeli
remember, he has Israeli Israeli citizenship. Israeli
leading
financed efforts
that, you know, that overlap with Israeli oligarchs
to go after Americans speaking about things they
don't like.
And realize what they're saying is if, you
know, they know because you say Palestine should
be free that somehow you hate Jewish people.
And whether he believes that or not, it
guides the direction they go after people who
are speaking in way whether you say things
about Jews or not, you have a right
to say whatever you want in this country.
The bottom line is they're you they're using
funding to go after Americans for ideas.
This has been going on forever.
It's just now for the first time in
a very long time gaining enough traction for
people to be aware of how nefarious this
is. Now let's be clear. Even if it
was literally about just people speaking about Jews,
it would still be unconstitutional. It would still
be illegal in my opinion or even just,
you know,
nefarious, alarming for an Israeli entity to go
after Americans for speech. But, again, let's be
very clear that as we keep proving, the
majority of what they point out when they
do that is people are people talking about
Palestine or even just anti Israel in the
concept of human
rights or illegal government
actions. It's just it's very clear.
Right now On the run. Like,
terrorize us and we are how do we
put them on the run, though?
Doing it by exposing who they are, what
they are, what they are, what they are,
what they are, what they are, what they
are, what they are, what they are, what
they are racist,
affect with their people, if they die in
democracy.
Right. And what's whether that's the truth or
not, that's how the framing will go. That's
the point. There's people out there saying Palestine
should not be subjected to, you know, whatever.
The the you hate the Jew. You are
a bigot and anti anti democrat or anti
democracy. We've heard all these. We've heard this
repetition.
So there's a built controlled narrative about anybody
standing against their agenda. That's what he's talking
about.
Do you think there's a good role to
just naming them as antisemites?
Not just antisemites.
It's it's simple.
Right. Because antisemitism,
accusations have lost their influence because of how
they apply it to literally anybody talking about
Israel. And that's the reality. So what they've
done is effectively hidden the actual antisemites or
racists out there by using the term to
go after anybody who calls out what they're
doing, which is illegal.
Israeli government crimes.
What he's gonna say is that we should
turn it into something else, which is, again,
what we keep hearing today. Listen to what
he says next.
We need to present them for what they
really are. That freedom,
anti Christian. Anti Christian, anti freedom. Right. We
do not consider. That's what we need to
hear.
Wow.
Numerous groups from the pro Israel lobby were
attending the conference.
An Israeli official gave them a message to
pass on to BDS supporters in America.
Everybody out there who has to do anything
with BDS
should ask himself twice. Do I wanna be
on this side, or do I wanna be
on the other side? If I'm
submitting
to BDS, what would be the effect?
We've got the budget. We can bring things
to the table that are quite different.
In episode one of the lobby USA,
Tony discovered that the Israeli government has launched
a covert campaign to gather information on American
citizens. Yep. We have And that's not new.
Not even remotely.
Three different sub campaigns.
Data,
gathering, working on activist organization,
money trail. Mhmm. And remember, Greenblatt is the
leaked audio where he admits they have spies
inside of Jewish organizations in the country that
talk about how Israel's committing crimes.
An Israeli gover entity spying on Americans. It's
all over the place.
The Israeli official named one organization that was
a partner in its covert campaign,
the Foundation for Defense of Democracies
Look at that. DD.
This is something that only a country with
its resources can do the best. Right. That's
why they've decided to infiltrate countries and use
that in the same effort. We have FTD.
We have others working on this.
She names the
Foundation for the Defense of Democracy
as an agent for this foreign government.
This is a, Alebunima from Elektronikatifada
speaking for the podcast.
Going after American citizens.
I mean,
that quote is a smoking gun. Mhmm. Sorry.
Are you Jonathan?
Hey. I'm Tony. Hi. Hi. I met up
with, Benny Wine Jonathan Shanza works very interested
in getting diabetes. Covert operations
or Iranian
or even Canadian official saying
that they were running covert operations to spy
on Americans
and using
an organization like the Foundation for Defensive Democracies
as a front group,
I think it would be a bombshell.
Well, obviously. I mean, that it's this is
what's crazy. And it's it's funny that that
even has to be pointed out, but he's
right to make the point because so many
people make the art think about it. If
it was any other entity anywhere saying that
they were using a
a a a front group, essentially, to spy
on you for a foreign government, that would
be monumental.
It's just it's it's almost like a
schizophrenic thing that we can't acknowledge how important
that is just because it's Israel. I mean,
it really does show you how long this
effort has been going on. Now I think
generally right there is where I wanna stop.
There's a lot more that you could watch.
There was I think there was one other
part I was gonna try to play. But
for this for time, I'm gonna oh, I
think that was it right there.
For time, I'm gonna maybe play one more
part right here, and then we'll jump ahead.
For the defense of Israel.
Studies
feel
academics have failed,
and that's why people like me are considered
useful at least to some.
To To call it the foundation for the
defense of democracies is a misnomer. It's the
foundation for the defense of Israel. Mhmm.
When you strip away all the layers of
the onion and you look at what you
really have,
what you have is a foundation
that is dedicated
to one
goal, and that is defending Israel at every
turn.
The FDD's mission has been to associate students
who support BDS
through links to charities and pressure groups, ultimately
to Hamas, which governs the besieged territory of
Gaza.
And that's the ultimate effort of just making
subjective connections. And, you know, bottom line is
regardless of whether you can draw a connection
from somebody to something, it does not then
invalidate the entire argument from the group. Right?
And and on top of that, what it
tends to be are subjective connections. And on
top of that, you can recognize how there
are people out there who believe, and maybe
you think they're wrong, maybe they are, that
Hamas is ultimately an entity just simply fighting
back against Israeli oppression. Now let's, of course,
acknowledge that there's funding that goes through Qatar
and others from Israel to Hamas, and that
has to flavor how you see that. It
does not in any way invalidate the legal
act of armed resistance, no matter what group
it was, fighting back from inside of Gaza
against the occupation of Israel. That's the legal
reality, the Fort Geneva Convention. They have an
armed resistant they have a right to armed
resistance if they're occupied, whether or not they
were attacked first. So the all of this
is just about framing this as people resisting
what they want
as terrorists.
Very George Bush of them. Right? So very
exact or just US government, how this tends
to work. Make sure you watch the rest
of it. That's only part of part one.
It's well done. Now, again, here's the article
from before. Trump is desperate for Miriam Adelson's
cash. Her condition, West Bank annexation. Yet again,
Harrette's showing you what our government pretends is
existing or our entire media apparatus.
Now here is a clip of,
this this was specifically
Dan Caldwell,
who is the is is the kind of
the one ostracized from the Trump administration,
speaking with,
Tucker Carlson about this exact conversation. And so
it just keeps what I think it shows
you is one more example as Gen f
girls pointing out of how anybody who's decides
to not tow the line
on the blind ignorance and blind act you
know, letting Israel do whatever it wants, they
the moment they call up one of these
unconstitutional acts or that maybe what Israel's doing
is not America First, they get kicked out.
Now that can that either needs to show
you that that's not an America First administration
or somebody else is driving the bus
or both.
People want war with Iran. I think
when it comes down to it, is a
lot of people
still think you can do regime change wars
successfully in The Middle East. Regime change wars.
I thought this was all about getting rid
of the, whatever, half dozen
Iranian nuclear sites because we don't want Iran
to have a nuclear weapon. Well, I think
Donald Trump has exposed them. You know? I
mean, it's hard to tell whether he's trying
to be facetious or not, but that's how
he plays his shtick. You know? But at
the end of the day, it's important to
hear it because truth does come out on
the show. I just you know my opinion
about how this tends to play. You don't
platform people. It doesn't matter. But there I
I don't trust
the intentions coming from this platform. But either
way, the fact that he had them on
is still a good thing, and what he's
talking about does highlight the problem. So maybe
I'm wrong. You know? Consider that.
Because
they're essentially
I mean, some of the biggest advocates of,
of war with Iran,
whether it's groups like Foundation for Defense of
Democracy,
writers at certain publications,
essentially, they are saying the problem with diplomacy
is is it it doesn't lead to regime
change. Right. Is that the policy should be
regime change.
It's almost like the nuclear
issue
is really about creating
a
pathway to regime change. And it really still
goes back to this idea
is a lot of them deep down inside
believe.
And some of them say it out loud
that we could have made Iraq successful.
And Iraq is just
a a mess. It is an absolute
just cluster.
So bottom line, and it goes on, is
the point that this is somebody who is
trying to say, at the very least, that
this is not we're we're being led down
the wrong path, and those are the people
that get pushed away.
Here is,
APAC tracker sharing the same clip that we
just played and just kind of a free
shot of that, for the podcast. It's the
same guy with all the different connections to
defense of democracy and APAC and all the
rest of the Israeli influence apparatus.
Here's Adam Adam Melsene is his name. Here's
a tweet from him saying, deportation
more than justified.
See, the point is these people are all
interconnected with this deportation campaign, and it is
being driven by Israel in a lot of
ways, if not entirely.
And what's even what what's most incredible about
this incredible is that we were I was
saying whether the
weaponized migration or the different points we've made
over the years of how that's an Israeli
agenda, and now we're literally watching it play
out in front of us and people still
can't connect these dots. These kinds of people
should not be welcome in America, he says.
He this is,
motion Ma Dawei, we we which we've discussed.
I'm trying to remember exactly the dynamic. He
says, whose deportation has been covered sympathetically
was reported to the FBI in 02/2015 for
bragging to a gun or shop owner about
killing Jews and stating how he loved to
kill Jews.
It's first of all, saying something like that
is not justifiable reason to deport somebody even
if that's actually the reality. Though it's insane
that they're using subjective claims or speech.
No. Look. I'm not defending the gross sentiments
of people that are racist. The point is
you're allowed to say what you want. The
idea that you can't you can't it just
it's it's crazy to me. If that's a
crime, charge them with a crime. You're you're
arguing people should be deported because of ideological
things,
whether you think they're absolutely wrong or not.
And I agree probably on some of the
things we're talking about, but that it's the
same as always with free speech or anything
else. If you do not defend the worst
of speech, you do not believe in free
speech. These people are destroying this country from
within.
Of course, Stephen Miller says, in the Trump
administration,
sovereignty will always win.
Well, Zionist Miller, clearly, I said, as we
can tell by all the clips below.
But whose sovereignty are you fighting for? And
this is Donald Trump and the same threat
literally showing you that he will censor you
for Israel, that he will deport people who
say things about Israel, which we're now watching
take place. But, yeah, with sovereignty, we'll always
win. Yeah. Ask Iraq how has has this
process worked out. Ask Syria how that's worked
out. Ask any of the countries that you
claim, but, no, sovereignty will only win when
you control everything and that's your sovereignty.
I mean, it's just it's just so it's
insulting to your intelligence that people like this,
Stephen Miller, who act like they're on your
side, who are clearly working against this country,
act like what they say just you know,
they'll just they can come out and say
this guy something that is diametric opposite, which
is what he does. We won that Supreme
Court case. No. You didn't, bud. And everyone
knows that. Now it's like I said before,
otherwise, I think I have another comment right
here.
Oh, I guess I didn't share it.
Either way, I just you know, the point
is
I don't know what scares me more. Whether
this guy doesn't know he's wrong in some
of these cases or doesn't care.
It's just obvious this person is working against
your interests.
Now here is senator Ron Paul,
Rand Paul, excuse me, saying that and this
is a kind of extension of the same
conversation. This is about the the definition of
antisemitism, but it's the same conversation.
And Glenn Greenwald says Rand Paul denounces the
attempt to radically expand what antisemitism
means. The IHRA model, which criminalizes
common criticism of of Israel.
Congress is poised to enact that definition of
law, and Trump is forcing colleges to implement
it. So let's not pretend like this is
some pushback. The the Trump administration,
again, 02/2018
bill around the boycott to begin with was
his last administration,
are absolutely
all about this.
He says because Paul actually supports free speech.
Here's what he said.
Amendment isn't about protecting good speech.
It protects even the most despicable and vile
speech.
Brandon Byrd was a Nazi and an anti
Semite, and he said horrible things. And the
first amendment,
the constitution, the Supreme Court ruled
that you can say terrible things. That's unique
about our country. In Europe, you can't say
anything. In Europe, you can if you call
a boy that thinks he's a girl a
boy, you can go to jail for that.
Which is insane to me that you have
people like Musk and Trump who constantly call
those things out in Europe and then try
to do the same things here. Probably just
distraction. Who knows? If you say something about
the holocaust in Europe, you can go to
jail.
This is what we're doing. We're codifying what
Europe did to speech. It's a terrible idea.
But everything in the 11 examples
is protected by Brandenburg
without question.
And so when you say, oh, yeah. We're
gonna do all these, and we're still gonna
have all these examples of things you can't
do, like stereotypical
allegations.
Have you guys ever listened to comedy?
Do you know why Jerry Seinfeld won't go
to colleges?
Because he can't make any Jew jokes anymore.
Of course, he's act advocating for you to
be censored and deported deported right now if
you have any of these ideas, or I
shouldn't say deported. I haven't seen him probably.
I'm just I'm kinda being facetious. But very
actively supports Israel in the ongoing genocide as
we've seen many times by now and does
call for censorship around that conversation. So it's
worth pointing that out. I thought he just
probably used him to, make a point in
all of this. It's just about people who
make jokes about these things, and he gives
you one right here. And, you know, it's
it's insane again that we can't recognize
it's like okay. By the way, I didn't
mention the beginning. Texas is trying to pass
an anti meme law right now or saying
that under 18 people can't even have social
media accounts. That's all in Texas right now.
Those are all the same conversation.
I think very clearly being driven by the
Zionist agenda as even Greenblatt made clear to
say it's a generational problem. We need to
go after the younger idea and here we
are. And so my point is that I
think that the fact that all this is
about ideas or, in this case, comedy,
it's just it's one more angle of the
same agenda all creeping in around us.
Sure as hell was in America First. You
know, the thing is or Indian jokes or
whatever jokes. Jokes are
about silly categorizations
of people, you know, of saying all people
do things. My one of my favorites I
just saw this morning was,
from Jon Stewart. If the Jews control the
media, why don't we give ourselves better press?
Is that gonna be controlled?
Yeah. And I'm not that funny. I just
stole that from Jon Stewart. But the thing
is, is that going to be controlled? Will
Jon Stewart be allowed to say that on
a college campus? Are we gonna send the
title six police after him? I mean, this
is just ridiculous and terrible. We all condemn
antisemitism.
We all just,
you know, are against bigotry,
and yet this is a a step backwards.
Mhmm. Yeah. Of course. If it was Jon
Stewart
or Jerry Seinfeld, they wouldn't care because it's
hypocrisy, guys, and we've seen that already. That's
so it shows you it's about it's about
chilling
political speech
when and how they want to. That's what
this is all about. Now there's another another
tweet from Gen X girl simply showing you
that it's not just
Mike Lauer and the anti boycott bill. It's
actually also which pretty much everybody in this
cabinet, but it's also Mike Michael Waltz, who,
by the way,
almost 300 about 250,000
rounding up coming from Israeli lobbies.
Mossad Mike's exposed, she says. Terrible couple of
weeks for the Israel lobby. Mike Lauer's Israel
bills neutralized for now, again, even though it's
already in reality on the books for Americans
as it needs to be in in their
minds. Right? It shows your ability to boycott
them.
Now the the new edition was just about
trying to stop you from working with international
entities just to call it out. And thanks
to American activism and 11 pro,
first amendment senators, you said she she goes
on to say, Mike Waltz removed from the
National Security Council and exposed as Israeli spy.
Now let's be clear.
If you don't understand by now that what
he's what you're seeing him get exposed for
is what literally all of them are involved
in, like, so if you're gonna call him
a spy, then damn well better recognize the
entire entirety of The US, or let's just
say the current administration
and the cabinet rather is the same thing.
But you know my opinion. I think the
US government
is what we're talking about here. But he
goes, now he needs to be rejected as
the UN ambassador. So realize that, guys. This
guy gets exposed for this.
And he gets moved over to being the
ambassador to Israel, to the United Nations.
I mean, that's perfect, isn't it? I mean,
that just shows you that there's something going
on there. Why wouldn't you get rid of
him if that's the point? What Trump that
that shows you that some level of the
administration, the the decision making, whoever's doing that,
they recognize
they just needed to put him to the
side. They can't get rid of him though
because that's what Israel wants. They want him
inside this discussion. But overall, it's all over
the place.
I mean, she she links some of the
other things we've already talked about. Let's go
over this conversation. Oh, and then for not
forget that Marco Rubio,
who before the administration was, oh, that'll never
happen. Everyone told me, no. He's such a
rhino. Nobody likes him. And then they pick
him and, oh, he's the savior of the
right now. And he's now basically the new
Kissinger in regard to both positions.
That's insane to me, and this guy is
not on your side.
But as we said before, former national security
adviser Mike Waltz, who is now ambassador to
United Israel to United Nations, was caught using
the the TeleMessage Israeli intelligence linked app that
was sending back archives to a server which
is controlled by Israel. And it says an
Israeli modified version of signal with archiving features.
And then just to show you this image
they share, which I think is relevant to
the boycott point, And I'll show you this
directly from you know, this is a real
point. It's the conversation. This is the one
on Newsweek. All the differences is, I think,
one state's difference to the map we're gonna
show you. And what it shows you is
the pink and red are all places where
you're not allowed to boycott Israel to certain
oh, and what it shows you is either
pass legislation or executive order, which apparently to
our government doesn't there's no difference even though
there really is. I don't know why that's
not there it goes.
So that's just showing you that on Newsweek.
Here's an image that's been going around. I
think the only difference is it shows India
on here as being one of those, but
the rest is the same.
If your state is purple, it has a
law, whether executive order or pass legislation, that
makes it illegal for you to receive a
public contract if you boycott Israel. That's as
of November 23. Just take a look.
For a podcast, it is, I think, say,
what, one, two, three, four, five, six, and
maybe maybe 12 more 12 states out of
the entire country. You're not allowed to boycott
Israel. Otherwise, you will get, you know, potential
legal per repercussions or not allowed to have
contracts or businesses.
This is supposed to be free speech or,
you know,
any number of constitutional rights because there's many
different overlaps you could have in there.
This shows you exactly what we're all trying
to highlight, guys. It's been going on a
long time. This this Newsweek article is from
April 2024. So you can argue that these
might have shifted a bit. That's why maybe
Indiana is no longer like that,
but it's very clear what's going on.
So let's get into that very infiltration.
And over the last so many, you know,
seventy six years, how the infiltration
has taken place right in front of us.
Now we just referenced this tweet, the last
show. Max Blumenthal with it it was a
minute and a half leaked conversation from the
CEO of APAC. He says more confirmation of
what APAC's director said in audio he obtained
from a private session. Mike Waltz was groomed
by the Israeli lobby to serve as an
asset in the GOP White House. It's this
stuff is literally everywhere. Now if you have
people that are on the defending Trump side
of this who want to pretend this doesn't
matter or it's not real, recognize who they
are and recognize they are not on your
side or they're uninformed
or disinformed, misinformed, whatever you wanna call it,
because you're being lied to. If they're telling
you this is not a problem, you're being
lied to.
Ali Abunamal, like John Nieto Fada. The firing
of national security adviser Mike Waltz appears to
be part of a battle between the ultra
pro Israel and the ultra pro pro ultra
ultra pro Israel wings of the Donald Trump
administration. Now that's the most accurate framing I've
seen. I actually don't think this comes down
to whether they wanted war with Iran or
not because, as I'll show you in a
second, they all want war with Iran. It's
I think about what got exposed too much
and is
what people like me are highlighting is reaching
more and more people because of stuff like
this.
Now here's some of the captions from the
article he's highlighting.
The title is Walt angered Trump over conversation
with Israel, which whether that's the case or
not, I mean, I don't know. It's hard
to say. Maybe Trump is being managed to
the point where he didn't know that kind
of infiltration was there. I find that hard
to believe. You can decide. He says, but
Waltz also upset Trump after an Oval Office
visit in early February by prime minister Benjamin
Netanyahu when he when the national security adviser
appeared to share the Israeli leader's conviction that
the time was ripe to strike Iran.
But Trump said the same thing. So did
JD Vance. There's a lot of people. And
I their recent comments make the case that
they're gonna do something if Iran doesn't do
what they're told. Now it says,
of military action and was operating hand in
glove with the Israelis. That's all the whole
thing. The view by some of the administration
was that Walt was trying to tip the
scales in favor of military action and was
operating hand in glove with the Israelis. That's
the Washington Post. Not to say that means
it's real, but think of the level of
this conversation, guys.
It says you the it says, if Jim
Baker was doing a side deal with the
Saudis to subvert George Bush, you'd be fired,
a Trump adviser said, referring to Bush's secretary
of state. Quote, you can't do that. You
work for the president of your country,
not a president of another country.
Now this very well could be a way
to make it seem like they're outraged, which
suggests that that's not the rest of the
administration.
That's how these things tend to go when
I think we can quite literally prove that
if not all, some of them very clearly
are tapped into the same hegseth, for example,
clearly.
So maybe this is about trying to pretend
to you that they got rid of the
problem,
a a release valve is what that's called.
You know? The steam is building, and they
know you're about to explode with this, but
they go, okay. Well, here it is, and
we got them.
Letting a little steam out. Oh, okay. Well,
it's over now. Let's move on to the
next conversation. That's how this tends to work
in my opinion.
Here, Ryan Grim,
citing for drop site news. Mike Waltz was
not caught using signal yesterday. That was the
original point. But rather and it because the
whole thing was the signal gate. Oh, here
he is using signal yet again. Nope. It
turns out, as you now know, it was
the Israeli tech firm's version of that that
makes a copy of all of its messages.
That opens up messages to surveillance by foreign
intelligence
exactly by design. So here is the article
from DropSiteNews.
On the day he was fired as national
security adviser, Mike Waltz used an Israeli app
to archive signal messages.
Says during Wednesday's meeting for Trump's cabinet oh,
and this was written on May 2.
During his meeting,
Mike Waltz checked the app on his phone.
That's the image that you've seen going around,
the one on main show today, using what
appears to be signal. As news broke that
Waltz had lost his job as national security
adviser, images up from the cabinet meeting circulated
widely online on up to on Thursday. So
the timing is interesting.
Right? So the so something was already going
on. Clearly, he was being shuffled to the
side, and then this came out. So maybe
this is an effort by somebody to kind
of dictate the way this conversation goes. And
and, again, you could you know who's in
in
infiltrated is the is the obvious word, but,
you know, who is
manipulating all of this through obvious channels. Now
that's not to say that you that who
the way this went or the hack we'll
talk about next was definitely Israel. There's other
points you could make about why it was
still and and it would still add up
to me, but it's one of the obvious
possibilities.
Because right now, I think it's obvious to
people that are simply objective and paying attention.
The entire world is becoming uncomfortably aware with
what Zionism has always been and what Israel's
doing to the world right now. And so
what a lot of this is is trying
to cultivate some shift of the conversation.
And it says,
as news broke, we lost his job, images
from the cabinet being circulated. Upon closer inspection
of the photos, it turns out that Ross
was not using signal. It appeared he he
appeared to be using an archiving app made
by Israeli firm TeleMessage,
which sells companion apps meant to enable archiving
messages.
In one of the report
Reuters photos of Walt's phone, a pop up
appears with the text verify your t m
s g n l pin.
Just below message from that's TeleMessage
signal,
just below message from JD Vance.
TMSGNL
is an aspect of the TeleMessage's software called
signal capture, literally called signal capture, that it
sells to governments and corporations to enable archiving.
Of course, carefully categorized
and kept safe by Israel and their servers.
Walt's misuse of the Signal app became one
of the Trump administration's biggest scandals when it
was revealed that he accidentally added the editor
of The Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg, to a group
chat with top officials. I still don't believe
that was some kind of accident. Secretary of
defense Pete Hegseth
had laid out details in a forthcoming bombing
mission targeting Yemen in the next thread. The
whole thing felt very contrived.
And and remember and this is where some
of the information was revealed that Israel was
involved in that. And it says aside from
cybersecurity and espionage concerns, the incident raised the
issue of federal record keeping laws after screenshots
revealed that the conversations were not on auto
erase. The White House indicated that there would
be efforts to reme remedy the situation. Now
signal is apparently widely used by government officials,
but what's interesting
is that, obviously, the way we've seen this
in the past or whether it's signal or
anything or even well before that, Or Clinton
with documents or Biden with documents or Trump
and his family with documents. And it's this
they all of these people do not follow
what we believe they're supposed to. The laws
are for you. What they do is whatever
they want, and sometimes people get you know,
tokens get pointed out to make it seem
like they're holding people accountable. They self enforce
when somebody gets too loud, like a mafia.
That's how I see this. Either way, I
think it's frustrating
that we act like they care about this
kind of stuff. Now there's some level of
wanting to be secret for their own purposes,
but at the end of the day, it's
obvious they don't seem to care about Israel
if this is what's happening. And it's not
just walls is what I'm gonna get to.
It appears that
the the state department, well before Trump's administration,
have been using this, or CDC, HHS.
So somebody knows this, guys, and they're not
worried about it, or they're not able to
say anything about it.
The personal smartphones of US National Security Officials
are liable to be prime targets of spyware
by foreign adversaries, including US allies. When the
revelations of widespread signal usage were first published,
many speculated about the endpoint
security of senior Trump officials' smartphones. Meaning, where
is this data going? Where does this end
up? Where if you're if you got the
archive,
where does that end up? Is it some
server in Israel is the point?
Israel's tech world is small,
and Israel leads the world in exports of
spyware and digital forensic tools. As Derek has
been aptly covering, former Israeli Defense Forces intelligence
for former defense Israel Defense Forces intelligence officials
have gone on to found tech companies,
especially in the field of spyware and surveillance.
Companies like NSO Group, maker of the controversial
Pegasus software, were founded and staffed by Israeli
officials. And you know this story. You know,
the Israeli spy group that was found liable
for hacking WhatsApp users.
A criminal organization as far as I can
tell. And then as Derek Hardy wrote,
meet the spyware companies preparing to unleash their
new tech during Trump's second administration. Boom. Here
we are. Derek, yet again, ahead of the
curve.
That it's just transparent what's happening. These groups
are criminal. Like, they they they were caught
spying, caught using what they claimed they weren't
allowed to or infiltrating different groups, and here
we are. And Trump even said at the
beginning that he was going to allow the
NSO group and these different software entities to
work to be allowed to be used. Here
we are, where what what we're finding out
is that the overlap to this
is well, in regard to the end, there's
I'm jumping ahead because I'm it's the next
paragraph. But there is an overlap to Pegasus
NSO Group to this very conversation, to this
very company. So if we already know, as
a matter of fact, that has been in
a this has been a a California court
recently ruled against the NSO Group that has
become infamous for hacking encrypted platforms. They were
found guilty.
It's not new. There's plenty of people around
the world that have called this group out.
Now it goes on to say, companies like
NSO Group, maker of the controversial Pega software,
were founded and staffed by Israeli officials. The
company was sanctioned by the Biden administration
because it's, again, showing you the nonpartisan,
all of US government dynamic. Israeli spyware firms
have become known for selling their products to
oppressive regimes around the world where the tech
is often used to target human rights, advocates,
journalists, dissidents. That was the main point about
the NSO group.
TeleMessage was founded in 1999,
the same year its founder left the Israeli
military intelligence job. Surprise, surprise. The company found
early success in the burgeoning world of text
message technology. The company grew, eventually pivoted to
focusing on
extracting messages
for common communication platforms for the purposes of
archiving, of course.
Only that apparently. Often to meet record keeping
regulations,
of course.
Or not at all. And it goes on
to say tech professionals have moved between companies
like TeleMessage and some of the is leading
Israeli
spyware firms. For example,
Alan Falai,
technical support manager at TeleMessage until 2021,
left the company to join the NSO Group.
According to his LinkedIn profile, another employee,
is Zach, Itzak DeMosa,
joined TeleMessage last year after a stint at
CellBright,
maker of the hardware and software widely used
by law enforcement to extract data from smartphones.
Told no. Nothing to see there. Don't mind
the man behind the curtain. Literally, a guy
whose job was to extract data from your
smartphone, but now we're just starting a company
to help you archive. No big deal.
TeleMessage's founder and top employees likewise share Israeli
military intelligence backgrounds,
like literally every other company that we're talking
about in this conversation. Guy Levitt,
interesting last name, TeleMessage's CEO, quote, serves as
the head of the planning and development of
one of the IDF's intelligence elite technical units
from 1996 until 1999 according to his biography.
That is the CEO of this company, of
TeleMessage,
that Waltz was allowing to archive his phone.
And who and and seems like most of
the government if you go under if the
I what what appears to be the depth
of this. Gil Shapira,
TeleMessage's vice president business development,
served in the Israeli Air Force until 1999
as a computer programmer, project manager, and team
leader.
Nir Ephirim, the vice president of corporate strategy.
All this is all TeleMessage.
Served four years in the elite military. You
can you can you guess which unit? Can
you guess?
Unit eighty two hundred Israeli Defense Forces. According
to his bio where he commanded teams of
expert of command computer experts,
a mobile researcher at TeleMessage,
Aviv
Tazitiyat,
how do you say that?
Tazit Ayat worked for Israeli military intelligence as
recently as February 2021.
You know, the whole thing, there is no
former intelligence guy. I mean, it's it's at
least worth your consideration.
He says there, he worked as a reverse
engineer and software developer. Because because that makes
sense for an archiving platform, reverse engineering. What's
I mean, come on. There's clear this is
a clear operation.
In my opinion, please look into it. Another
employee, Mayor Ben Abu, previously served with unit
eighty two hundred, a group within Israeli military
intelligence specializing in clandestine operations,
signal intelligence, and counterintelligence.
The unit has been compared to the National
Security Agency, and its graduates frequently go on
to work in the cyber warfare industry. Now,
again, I might as well grab it again
just because in case you haven't seen it,
I'll come back to this.
It really does bring it all together when
you read that paragraph. I mean, and that
that comes from an Israeli article about what
they're doing. I'll read it in a second.
The point is, that is the reality, that
they they gravitate into the open field as
if they're moving on from intelligence, and they
continue the intelligence operation.
Israel has a long history of espionage and
surveillance in The United States. In 1998,
it was identified by the US National Counterintelligence
Center to be on the Department of Energy's
sensitive country list, an ally, apparently. In a
February report, the NCIC listed Israel as one
of the, quote, most active collectors of intelligence
against the private sector.
Despite the close relationship between The US and
Israel, the Associated Press reported that the CIA's
Near East division considered Israel the number one
counterintelligence
threat in 2012. In 2019,
the US government determined that Israel had most
likely planted Stingray surveillance devices that mimic cell
phone towers around the White House, intending to
spy on president Trump and his top aids.
According to political report, Israel denied the allegations.
Nobody seemed to care about that during Trump's
last administration.
A review of federal contracting data shows TeleMessage
has a history of contracting with the Department
of State,
Health and Human Services.
The company acknowledges its work with the federal
government on its website. When reached for comment,
a representative would not confirm or deny the
White House had purchased licenses for their apps.
What? But acknowledge they sell technology to US
local and federal government agencies. Wouldn't confirm or
deny
that you have an app for them to
archive information? Like, that is
how do you not see what this is?
Absolutely important and very, very, very I mean,
this is what infiltration looks like. Now before
we go forward yet again, here is an
article that Twitty wrote for TLav, and I
wanna read you the one paragraph that is
important to hear.
Believe it was right here. Right here.
Oh, no. That's not the right one.
Hold on. Dang it. How do I always
I every time I can't I can't find
this.
Yeah. There it is. So it says that
or that same article, and I'll even include
the article for you if you wanna read
the article itself.
Israeli blurs the line between defense apparatus and
local cybersecurity
hub.
That this paragraph is right in this article.
Here's what it says. Well, first off, she's
set setting it up, says that the article,
it contains a stunning revelation that many Israeli
companies, including Black Cube, right, remember the one
that was hired by Weinstein to
basically surveil and and and threaten his victims,
they're all former Mossad or informer Mossad, have
been founded as fronts for intelligence operations since
02/2012.
It states that, quote, since 02/2012,
cyber related and intelligence projects that were previously
carried out in house in the Israeli military
and the Israel's may and Israel's main intelligence
arms are transferred to companies that in some
cases were built for this exact purpose.
The article then adds, in some cases, management
development projects in the Israeli military and intelligence
arms were encouraged to form their own companies,
which then took over the military and or
intelligence project.
Very, very clear.
NSO Group. Now here, it's just asking
just brave.
Give me the TeleMessage unit eighty two hundred
connections. Here's what even brave says. TeleMessage, an
Israeli firm that provides secure messaging solutions for
enterprises,
has a connection to unit a two hundred,
Israel's cyber spy agency. The company was founded
by a former Israeli military intelligence official who
was a leader in one of IDF's intelligence
unit technical units, and many of the TeleMessage
executives and top employees have backgrounds with
Israeli military intelligence. The connection between TeleMessage and
unit a two hundred is significant because it
raises concerns about the security and privacy of
messages archived using TeleMessage's services, especially when used
by high level government officials.
Furthermore, some TeleMessage employees have moved between the
company and leading Israeli spyware firms like CelBright,
which is used by police in The United
States to crack down on Americans.
That's as often left wing activists. In this
case, we're talking about today in regard to
how it's being aimed. Personally, I don't think
it's about left and right. I think it's
about whatever Israel wants to happen.
Now here's a clip we played yesterday that's
worth hearing again. Former CIA agent, in quotes,
as always, former John Kiriakou
tells you what we all should know by
now. He said this in many different interviews
going back a long way. He even talks
about in one discussion how when he was
in Israel for a moment when he was
there as one of the agents that ultimately
or he he has his stories, but then
also relay stories of other people he knew
were there where the Israeli government, even though
they're US supposedly allies who are there in
their country, will still mess with them to
the point of stealing from them.
In one case, they said he came back
and they found the dog's tail had been
cut off and wrapped in gauze and laid
out for them. That's his story. That's from
the Israeli government acting to its own allies.
Think about that. This is the reality of
what the is what the Israeli government is
doing throughout this country, and this goes back
a long way. Now bear in mind what
we just read with what he's about to
say here.
Well, something's clearly going on. Let me know
if you can hear me still.
It's very strange what's going on with this
platform right now.
All day, there's been some weird things happening.
Let me see if I can grab it
again.
There we go. Harry Aki, the host of
CIA declassified on UNIFYD
TV. You said this. We saw what the
Israelis were getting away with in these prisons
that they had in the West Bank and
in Gaza. Nobody raised any objection at all.
So we thought, well, if the Israelis can
do it, we can do it. The president
said we could, and the justice department said
we could, and so we did. You've also
separately described Mossad saying that it has a
negative disproportionate
and widespread influence of the US national security
state. So you're clearly not a fan of
the Mossad. Why? I remember when I first
joined the CIA, and this is going back
thirty five years, there was a declared Mossad
officer in the Israeli embassy and a declared
Shin Bet officer, and the FBI was able
to identify
187
additional Israeli intelligence officers at work in The
United States clandestinely. I would say, why? Why
would they steal secrets when we give them
99%
of everything that we already have? Doesn't The
United States steal secrets from Israel too? Of
course, they do. No. Actually, no. The Israelis
were off limits to us at the CIA.
We were not permitted to complete that for
one second. I don't believe that I don't
believe that for one second. Well, Jeff Stein,
the great, intelligence beat reporter from Newsweek, would
report every year on an intelligence report that
the FBI would put out about the worst
counterintelligence threats in The United States, and it
was Russia, China, and Israel. Eventually, what happened
was it it caused such a scandal after
time after time of this coming out that
Dianne Feinstein ended up changing the rules so
that they didn't have to issue the report
anymore so that Jeff Stein wouldn't be able
to report on it anymore. But they were
alleged by that the counterintelligence
division to be the most damaging spies in
America only after our supposed adversaries, Russia and
China.
Well, some of that you just heard from
that report, but, you know, this is from
a CIA agent telling you that they are
aware of 86
undeclared Israeli Mossad agents roaming around. Now that's
not even talking about, like, the supposedly no
longer parts of these. Like, they're no longer
part of the intelligence and open carbine company
that runs 911 call centers in The United
States or medical infrastructure or, you know, everything
that we've clearly shown you on the show
and Whitney's been showing you for quite a
long time.
Here is what Daniel McAdams said about the
post from AF post around Mike Waltz
saying that he's using this signal app. He
said, dude is a straight up foreign agent.
Now I I have a lot of respect
for Daniel McAdams. He's a very intelligent and
very subjective person. And so it's just important
to see when you know, how much this
conversation has shifted to where at some point,
people, even if they thought that, were afraid
to say it because they would be called
racist, and it's still happening. The reality is
this has nothing to do with what we're
talking about with race. This has to do
other than that's how that side is playing
it against everybody else. This is about the
Israeli government infiltrating other governments and and
conducting and and dictating policy and committing genocide.
And when you have a person like this
caught literally working on behalf of the Israeli
government with an Israeli app that allows them
I mean, it's how much more do we
need?
Here's what WikiLeaks said today, and it's now
citing the four zero four article that updates
this to
the hack.
The Israeli company
behind the modified signal app used by the
Trump administration has been hacked.
TeleMessage's
back end panel was accessed using credentials found
in intercepted data.
The hacker now see this see, you could
argue this is Israel, seeing as how they
have all that information, or it could be
somebody that took advantage of the in the
middle ground between it. You know, it's hard
to say. So it's worth considering
who benefits from this as always.
Using credentials found and intercepted data. The hacker
exposed archive messages and contact info for US
Officials. Now, again, one of the earliest points
is whether or not this was Israel or
if this was just somebody to take advantage
of it, it's why this should not be
the case.
Or or why the from the very beginning,
Trump and Elon and all the rest have
start have used things off the beaten path
in their own pro private servers and their
own computers. And every set time so far,
we've seen those things shown to be vulnerable.
Now is that by design for this kind
of dynamic? I don't know. But, clearly,
it shouldn't be okay that what they're doing
is allowing this stuff to be used. Maybe
for, you know,
just a a project,
excuse me, problem reaction solution kind of thing
to get us to freak out so they
build in the new thing they need. That's
how this tends to go right now. It
says the hack reveals that archive chat logs
are not end to end encrypted between the
modified messaging app and the final archive destination
controlled by telemessage customer, Israel.
Commenting on the
Israeli
or the way I said that, the point
is they're saying between the person who's using
it. Right? But the point is the
middle
dynamic in that is the Israeli intelligence apparatus.
Commenting on Israeli modification of signals adopted by
US Government, signal app told four zero four
media that we cannot guarantee the privacy of
these
of secure properties security properties of unofficial versions
of signal, obviously.
So here is the article.
The signal clone the Trump admin used was
hacked. This was two days ago yesterday. Excuse
me.
A a hacker has breached and stolen customer
data from TeleMessage.
Now think about how much information inside the
new national security information is flying around on
this. And just wait until we get to
the next part about oligarchs who are involved
in this.
And ask yourself how much information could have
put I mean, if they're always screaming about
national security and tie and pointing at people
protesting Israel, national security, and this is okay.
Clearly, either they don't care about national security
or it's only about one entity.
An obscure Israeli company, TeleMessage,
that sells modified versions of signal and other
messaging apps to the US government to archive
messages.
Four zero four media has learned. The data
stolen by the hacker contains the contents of
some direct messages and group chats sent using
the signal clone, as well as modified versions
of WhatsApp, Telegram, WeChat.
See, this is infiltration, guys.
The telemessage was recently the center of a
wave of media coverage after Mike Waltz accidentally
revealed he he that he used the tool
in a cabinet meeting with president Trump. The
hack and I think now that alone, just
by that how that got revealed
could be why this person was or let's
be clear. The timing is afterward, but the
something around this
caused this person to be pushed to the
side, not removed,
but just pushed over to being UN. Or
maybe there's some important reason they need a
pro, you know, rabid Zionist in regard to
the UN and Israel. I don't know.
But shouldn't this be something where you're held
accountable when you get exposed that you had
a massive leak because you're using the wrong
thing and all you do is get moved
to a new position? It just there's so
many levels to this.
It says the hack shows an an that
an app gathering messages of the highest ranking
officials in the US government.
Walt's chats on the app include recipients that
appear to be Marco Rubio, Tulsi Gabbard, JD
Vance, contain serious vulnerabilities that allowed a hacker
to trivially trivially trivially
access the archive chats of some people who
use the same tool. Now so think about
it. They access the archive chats, which means
they're accessing the Israeli unit eighty two hundred
intelligence company's servers.
That's the whole point. Now whether Israel was
responsible or not, it shows you that they're
the reason this was able to happen.
And it says the hacker has not obtained
the messages of cabinet members, so we're told
anyway,
Walt and people he spoke to, but the
hack shows and, really, we don't know what
they fully have background. They're we know what
they've shown so far, so that may not
be true. But it says,
but the hack shows that the archive chat
logs are not end to end encrypted between
the modified version, which we already know, and
they cite signal down the article saying that
they can't guarantee.
Data related to,
customs and border protection, the cryptocurrency giant Coinbase,
and other financial institutions are included in the
hacked material according to screenshots for of messages
and back end systems obtained by four zero
four media.
Now the interesting overlap with the customs and
border patrol, like, we need to see how
all this is very clearly interconnected with what's
going on and
who benefit who would desire access to all
these ends of this agenda.
The breach is hugely significant, not just for
those individual customers, but also for the US
government more widely. On Thursday,
four zero four media was first to report
that the at the time, US National Security
Adviser Waltz accidentally
revealed he was using TeleMessage's modified version of
signal during the cabinet meeting.
On Thursday, it was first reported
by them that he that he did that.
The to use to the use of that
tool raised questions about what classification of information
was being discussed across the app and how
the data was being secured and came after
revel revelation, excuse me, top US Officials were
using signal to discuss active combat operations. Now
it turns out that seems to be what
is kind of the go to right now.
But nonetheless, there's criticism around that. I mean,
I I mean,
I argue that I I don't think any
apps are actually as secure as they claim,
personally.
The question is not necessarily about whether they're
being secure across the board. I don't think
we I don't think they ever really are.
It's about who is benefiting from this and
why they're using this app through an Israeli
intelligence entity that allows them to archive what
they're doing at the highest levels of US
power. The hacker did not access all messages
stored, they claim, or collected by TeleMessage,
but could have likely accessed more data if
they decided to. So all you're doing is
saying that's what they're saying. They could be
lying about that. Underscoring the extreme risk posed
by taking ordinarily secure end to end encrypted
messages app messaging apps, like Signal and adding
an extra archive feature to them.
Now, this may be, in one part, trying
to convince you that Signal is secure as
long as you don't use these other things.
I just I don't think we should trust
any of that.
Quote, I would say the whole process took
about fifteen to twenty minutes, said the hacker,
which I would think is so weird how
this happens today, describing how they broke into
telemessaging system. Quote, it wasn't much effort at
all. Four zero four Media does not know
the identity of the hacker but was but
has verified aspects of the material they have
anonymously provided. It goes on to show you
how, and they've called and double checked a
lot of this confirming that it was real
information.
It says a message sent to the group
chat called upstanding citizen brigade,
interesting
way they frame themselves,
included in the in the hacked data says
its source type is signal, indicating it came
from TeleMessage's
modified version of the messaging app. The message
itself was a link to this tweet posted
on Sunday, which is a clip of an
NBC meet the press interview with president Trump
about his meme coin.
Interesting. That could be relevant.
The hacked data includes phone numbers that were
part of the group chat. Now it goes
on to point out other examples of how
they're basically it seems like almost using different,
you know,
like a meme coin video or conversations about,
you know, like, almost like
politically
advantageous
memes and
videos to get them to to basically I
I would argue possibly people that aren't necessarily
already involved with this. Either way, the point
is that that they're saying that the message
itself was linked to
the tweet posted about that clip. And it
goes on to say, this means a hacker
was able to steal what appears to be
active,
timely discussion
about the efforts behind passing a hugely important
and controversial cryptocurrency bill. Now, again, whether that
is relevant to why it's happening or just
one example of how they have access to
everything,
you could decide.
One screenshot of the hacker's access to the
telemessage panel lists the names, phone numbers, and
email addresses of border patrol officers.
Again, I feel like that's kind of relevant.
Another screenshot indicates that the intelligence branch of
the Washington DC Metropolitan Police
may be using this tool. Now, again, as
we get to the bottom, you're gonna find
out that it that it seems that they
all are.
Police.
You know? And with Whitney's points, with Carbine,
and and 911 call centers, and infrastructure,
whether water, medicine, the Israeli government is tapped
into these things. That's not a question. With
what we can see, that's happening. And this
is at the highest levels of power. We
need to stop pretending this is not what
it looks like. The server that the hacker
compromised is hosted by Amazon Cloud Services. Of
course, it is. And in Northern Virginia. By
reviewing the source data of TeleMessage's
modified signal app for Android,
four zero four Media confirmed that the app
sends messages data to the to this endpoint.
Four zero four Media also made an HTTP
request to the server to confirm that it
is online. So it's an active online point.
We and we know what this is. In
the unit 8,200 connected Israeli intelligence company. So
these things are being sent back to an
ongoing server
that's run by Israeli intelligence
and saying that the hacker compromised the server
that compromised was cloud Amazon, which, to me,
ties right into the whole point. Well, I
I think these tech entities are either compromised
themselves or part of the ongoing problem. Now
it says TeleMessage came to the forefront for
after a Reuters photograph
took a photo in which Walt was using
his mobile phone. Zooming in on the photo
revealed that he was using the modified version
of signal made by text TeleMessage.
The photograph came around around a month after
the whole signal gate point about Houthis being
bombed.
And since as of that as part of
that, Walt accidentally added the editor in chief
of, you know, of the the claim anyway,
as we recently said in the other article.
TeleMessage offers governments and companies a way to
archive messages from end to end encrypted messaging
apps such as Signal, WhatsApp.
TeleMessage
does this by making modified versions of the
apps that send copies of the messages to
a remote server,
which we already said, which in case that
wasn't clear, a video from TeleMessage posted to
YouTube claims that its app keeps, quote, intact,
the signal security and end to end encryption,
which we know that's not true. So they're
lying about that. Even signal says it's not
true. TeleMessage essentially adds a third party
to that conversation by sending copies of those
messages somewhere else for storage. A Signal spokesperson,
as we said, said they cannot guarantee that
that's happening, the encryption.
White House deputy press secretary Anna Kelly previously
told NBC News in an email, quote, as
we have said many times, signal is an
approved app for government use and is loaded
on government phones.
Okay. So that should be the if then
why then is it acceptable to use an
Israeli archive overlap to that, which then opens
that possibility or I think clearly shows that
it's no longer encrypted?
I mean, if they care about national security
or privacy or security,
of course, this wouldn't be allowed. These are,
like, basic deductive logic points. So
why is it being allowed?
The answer is hang there like the most
obvious thing in the world.
According to public procurement records, TeleMessage has contracts
with a range of US government agencies, including
the state department,
Centers for Disease Control, Prevention, HHS, as we
already pointed out. Recently, after the wave of
media coverage about Walt's use of the tool,
of course, this also, I think, speaks volumes,
after it became aware or people started talking
about this,
TeleMessage
wiped its website.
And does that sound like a company who's
publicly doing the service, or Or does that
sound like somebody who wants to make sure
that nobody does what we're doing right now
or at least has more ability to comb
through their connections and show you how obvious
this is? They wiped their website? Is that
what a business does that wants to like,
abnormal business would use this to say, here
well, I guess that you could argue that
ultimately this is showing a a a
vulnerability in what they are if you pretend
they're not an Israeli company working for Israeli
intelligence. But either way, wiping your website would
not be the way you handle this if
you're a business trying to grow your business.
It just is so obvious what this is.
Before then it it then it goes on
to say,
before then, it contained details on the services
that it offered,
what its apps were capable of, and in
some cases, direct downloads for the archiving app
themselves.
Now the website is wiped.
Neither would Porter Patrol, Coinbase,
the bank they reference in this, Galaxy Digital,
or Washington DC Metropolitan Police responded for request
for comment, which in and of itself seems
pretty damn weird to me. You know, it's
it's it's just everything about this is right
on the surface.
Now we'll include one of the many articles
we've covered on this.
This was 12/07/2024,
Israel's global cybersecurity infiltration.
And this is a very
there's so many ways we could've gone, and
I can include 45 new videos and articles
and just showing you how long this has
been happening and how clearly they're infiltrating governments
and, you know, it's and it's not just
United States. That's the main point. If we're
really starting to pay attention, this goes around
the world, which is what I think this
adds to it.
April 29 from the nation 2025. Now I'm
only gonna show you a couple quick parts
of this. You can read this for yourself.
There's a lot in this that I feel
is very partisan. That should not just that
should not then that shouldn't be enough for
you to disregard
just the main overlapping points I think are
important. And or maybe you can read it
all and think it's all very relevant. It's
up to you. The group chat from hell
has been exposed. The only point that I'm
making in all of this is how obvious
this is that this is the same thing.
K. Right now, you've got them using signal
on all these weird little chats off to
the side of people that are tapped into
the highest levels of power of teal and
Trump and Vance and all the rest. Andreessen
is one of those people. And he is
basically running all these different chats as you're
gonna see in this if you read it
all,
and essentially kind of corralling the way people
think.
And then if they people go away from
that, they they drop it and move on.
I mean, it's it's it's not like the
idea, they always wanna profess these values of
free speech and open thought and dialogue, and
then the moment they have that challenge, they
show you that's not what they think about.
Or not what they care about rather.
And the overlap, of course, is the idea
of the signal problem.
And then ask yourself whether they're also using
this telemessage overlap. Now I have no information
to highlight whether that's the case or not,
but it makes the the question should be
asked.
Is this the same thing?
Now it says, for anyone thinking that the
notorious signal chat
organizing a bombing raid on the Houthis was
a one off lapse of judgment by the
people at the center of American power, possibly
because it involved Pete Hegseth,
Sema four media described Ben Smith comes bearing
a tale of much larger, more influential
mutterings of signalites.
Smith's piece concerns a cluster of ultra wealthy
and or politically connected Silicon Valley Plutocrats
who, after several earlier forays into unbuckled opinion
shaping on secure chat platforms,
we now swap critiques on a signal group
chat dubbed Chatham House, of course, after a
privacy conscious international policy think tank based in
London. Bottom line being, you're not allowed to
essentially discuss most of what's been going on
there other than certain overlapping points. And And
so the idea is, you know, keep it
secret what we're discussing. And it says, like
all things involving Silicon Valley, the group name
is a symptom of delusional collective self regard.
As he sees it, I tend to agree.
The chat's chief ringleader is Marc Andreessen.
Remember the one on Joe Rogan who basically
argued that what we need is the good
elites to save you from the bad ones.
Elitist is what they're all called. They're not
actually better than you. They think they are.
But overlapping that with Karp's book and, you
know, this whole, you know, Curtis Yarvin guiding
like, and it really comes down to the
Machiavellian mindset or the ends justify the means
or whatever they use to argue that no
matter what they do is the right thing
if they get what they want and claim
that means you get what you want, and
it's just not the reality.
And it's a very simplified discussion of what
they're putting forward, but it is, in my
opinion, it is just flatly not in your
interest.
Although, unless you're willing to sell out to
their their worldview and live the way that
they want you to for their interests.
And I mean, it's same as all these
oligarchs we're talking about today.
Now it says,
the chat's chief ringleader, Marc Andreessen, the erstwhile
Netscape founder and,
present day lord of venture capital, they write,
who, as Smith notes, has been instrumental in
Silicon Valley's fulsome,
fulsome embrace of Donald Trump.
By distilling the ideological leanings of the Silicon
Valley elitists, I would add, they say elite,
Chatham House and its forerunner chats exert an
outsized kind of cultural and political clout, Smith
writes, in getting key influencers and business titans
on the same page. Quote, their influence flows
through Twitter, Substack, podcasts, and constitutes a kind
of dark matter of American politics and media.
The group chats aren't always primarily a political
scape a space,
but they are a single
the single most important place
in which a stunning realignment
toward Donald Trump was shaped and negotiated, and
an alliance between Silicon Valley and the new
right formed.
Now you could make that about left right
politics. And me to me, it's not. To
me, it's about what really drives the what
we pretend is you know, you people pretend
the election is driving. American people dictate. This
is what dictates your future. These are the
people that guide
very clearly the outcomes of what happened, and
they give you two fake selections that you
get to decide from. Either way, it benefits
their outcome. I mean, let's not forget, guys.
What Derek wrote, I think, really nailed it
in a lot of the conversations around this,
which is that no matter which way this
election went,
Zionist technocrats for versus Zionist technocrats.
They I mean, literally, you had carp on
one side and teal on the other. You
and it it it it's very clear that
this was the same outcome. Israel support, technocrat
support, it was the same thing no matter
who ultimately won this or, you know, they
selected in front of you is how I
would read it.
But the point is these background things, you
know, the the old,
before let's even go back before the whole
signal chat dynamic. That's why they went to
Bilderberg. That's why they go to these chats,
and they set the tone for the coming
political theater.
The group chats aren't always primarily political space.
Yeah. I I read all that. It goes
on to say, the Chatham House Chats do
furnish valuable insight into preferred mode of groupthink
endorsed by our digital overlords, as he writes.
And not surprisingly, this brand of orthodoxy hinges
on the grand conceit that they and their
peers are the chosen prime movers of history.
They really do see themselves this way. And
that dissenters are at best misguided Luddites and
at worst, power mad and puritanical censors. Now
there's some of all those things. The point
is though we unseat we can see today
that people that aren't are being framed as
whatever they can to make you seem like
the other so their agenda continues.
And it says what Andreessen is pleased to
call his curation of the new national vibe
shift. You know, it's they are cultivating this
stuff, and it's not hard to see.
There is an idea that you don't criticize
because what really matters is defeating the left.
Now the that's that's clearly driving a lot
of the average person's view trapped in the
Tardisian idea, and the and the same thing
in the other direction. The idea that as
long as we are dunking on the left
or making them look bad or attacking them
or stopping them,
we're doing the right thing.
It's just lazy and dangerous.
Now it goes on to say in one
of the only chats transcripts that he was
able to obtain, David Sachs, the hedge fund
billionaire who now serves as the as the
AI crypto czar, announces his defection
from one of these groups saying, quote, it's
becoming it's become worthless
due to rampant Trump derangement syndrome,
triggering in turn the departures of other influential
MAGA people that were in the chat, like
Tucker Carlson and Tyler Winklevoss.
So funny how they make these chats, they
group, and they're having conversations, but the moment
somebody defects or says, maybe we shouldn't be
doing this. Maybe that's unconstitutional. Well, now you're
derangement syndrome.
That's what we're talking about.
That and then what that does is shows
the rest of the speech and people wanna
be included, and they want to get their
political benefits and their business benefit, so they
stay in line, toe the line.
I think it's very important to see that
this is not unique
to Mike Waltz. It's not unique to the
inner circle. This is a major problem that
is, I think, goes a lot bigger.
But you guys can decide.
As always, I mean, a lot of things
we discussed in the show are things that
I'm just putting forward as possibilities. So it
ultimately comes down to whether you think and
you can hopefully don't just make an assumption
and make that your idea, but that you
continue to make notes
and wait for more evidence because we don't
know. That's the ultimate point. At this point,
all we have is
data points that suggest there's an overlap in
regard to the telemessage point.
And I'll also include these. They mentioned Curtis
Yarvin in that article and and and the
connection between that ideology and what Andreessen and
Karp and Teal are all pushing forward. But
Derek wrote this 02/10/2025.
Meet the Peter Thiel acolytes in Donald Trump's
second administration.
And it's insanely obvious how all of them
are tied into the same thing. And then,
of course, he follows up on that and
says, meet the man whose philosophy
has influenced Peter Thiel and the technocrats.
And it is the same thing we're talking
about. It's the same idea. They're they're clearly
driving some kind of new, you know, golden
age idea and that in and of itself,
golden age and everything else ties back to
all these larger ideas from a long time
ago, whether that's the eugenics thread or whether
it's the technocrat or, you know, tech Technocracy
Inc and Elon's family. You know, it's it's
just insanely clear how this stuff connects. Now
on top of that, to the Iran overlap,
responsible statecraft said Trump fired Waltz because he
wanted to attack Iran. Now that seems to
be the general sentiment.
I don't agree with that. Certainly is one
of the possibilities. And I hope that I
really hope that's the case because it gives
the indication
that at at least some level of pushback
from the Trump administration or Trump himself where
they don't wanna just blindly attack Iran. I
just find that really hard to believe with
what they're currently saying and what they've been
saying. So, I get the sense my personal
opinion, not that I'm proving this, is that
this was the framing
in order to give a bone to the
people that wanna believe he's the peace president
despite everything else proving the opposite. Or on
top of that, then what we're seeing is
this sort of game to water down what
ultimately happens as if that was the bad
version, what we do is the good one.
It's
it's all hypothetical considerations.
Here is antiwar.com.
As always, you should be following. Trump says
he wants total dismant dismantlement
of Iran's nuclear program. Feels like that's a
weird word.
Dismantlement? Is that even the right word? I
think yeah. I guess it is. But the
point is, that's what we already heard. Right?
And if you don't do that, then there
will be earth shattering consequences or whatever he
says every time. Right? If you don't do
that, then we will do we'll, you know
how he said it, basically suggesting they'll they'll
bomb them. I mean, very clearly like he
does every time. Doesn't always mean he will.
But that's that's his style of democracy negotiation
is threatening and taking what they want. But
the point is this is on the fourth,
guys. He's basically gone top of it all
saying, you have to do this or we're
going to take action. And what they said
last time was, well, we don't want what
you're selling. We don't wanna negotiate with you.
Witkoff was was presented, and they said he's
not a he's a meaningless person. They were
going through Oman to have some semblance of
negotiation, and then Israel, the the argument is,
attacked Iran.
That never that seemed to never really flush
out. What we tend to get long term
is if there is information, it'll come out
through Iran and statements in the future. They
very rarely seem to act irrationally like The
US and Israel do. They're measured in their
response. The point, though, is that the bombing
the two different explosions we saw right during
this time happening
seem very similar to the Beirut explosion, even
the same kind of argument. But Iran itself,
in some cases, seem to suggest that it
was some kind of a mistake or so
who knows?
Interesting timing though, isn't it? That as they're
in the middle of this, that happens.
The point though is I don't believe that's
an indication that they want to avoid going
war with Iran. If you wanted to stop
the war with Iran, that's not how you
would go about it, especially since the reality
of the program, even according to the state
department, is they're not seeking a nuclear weapon.
That's a recent statement
as well as the International Atomic Energy Agency.
So all we get, like everything else, whether
it's immigration or foreign policy, is that they
claim something and everything else shows you the
opposite.
We're not killing everybody, and here's the genocide.
We're not starving everybody. Here's the proof. Every
single time. So yet again, Netanyahu and the
rest, they always they're shrinking a bomb for
the last forty million years. They claim it's
been going on, you know, whatever. It's, you
know, decades. They've been claiming Iran is seeking
a nuclear weapon. One month away, we hear
all the time, and then it doesn't happen.
And the evidence shows it never was. Now
today is a it's a different dynamic. And,
of course, it's possible that's they always have,
and they we we just can't prove it.
But then, nonetheless, it still comes down to
the evidence isn't there, so we shouldn't claim
we know. If they had the proof, they
would show it to you. But the point
is
today, the argument's becoming that they're driving them
to do so. And then even if they
do,
you how how can you blame them? The
reality is that they are I've stated repeatedly
and proven that they're not doing so and
that they keep saying that we're gonna come
after you. And as as North Korea approved,
if they do so, that will cause the
shift of the conversation.
And on top of all of it, they
have a right to do it like literally
every other government. So the point is they're
trying to create this conflagration.
I can't say that. You know, cause conflict.
Mel points out Trump's statements,
all purchases of Iranian oil or petrochemical products
must stop now. You know, the the megalomania
here, like, the idea that you think you
could just dictate what any other country does
including your allies
with another foreign country. It's not illegal to
work with Iran because if US just decides
to say so, it shows you who the
real villain is in all this.
These are the kind of things that cause
these problems, whether or not you think they're,
you know, whatever the narrative is their flux
circulating around.
That's a country that has a right to
sell and deal with other countries.
That is not how this works.
But that's how the US government has operated
as long as I can remember.
And Mel says, so now we're about to
stop doing business with China? Oh, that was
the point. It says, any country or person
who buys any amount of oil or petrochemicals
from Iran will be subject immediately to secondary
sanctions, which is illegal. You can't there's no
real
mechanism through which the US government or any
individual country can unilaterally
they can do it because they control the
financial dynamic, but this is supposed to be
done through an international body.
This shows you they think they are the
policemen of the world. So what this is
is financial terrorism. That's what it is. To
get what they want at the expense of
anybody and everybody else. They're saying sanctions to
everybody who doesn't go along with what we
want.
They will not be allowed to do business
with The United States. That's the point. Mel
says, so you're gonna stop doing business with
China, India, Turkey, The UAE in about 10
other countries?
No, that's not what's gonna happen. That is
meant to focus on very particular things to
people that they want to go after.
This is how do people put up with
this? How does this make Americans more safe
and prosperous?
It doesn't, the point, which is her point.
But here's Hegseth making the same point. This
was on the thirtieth, of course, so timing
is different, but nonetheless, showing you there are
other people in this administration that are unabashedly
going after starting war with Iran for Israel.
He says message to Iran as you've you've
all seen. We talked about it last time.
We see your lethal support to the Houthis,
which, you know, they are supportive of what
they're doing, but there's no evidence suggest they're
literally, like, dictating the outcome of what's going
on there. As I've said, forever.
And even US government entities have made that
case throughout the years. That's not really what's
going on. And as interest as, in
how do you say that? As luck would
have interesting to show you Donald Trump said
the same thing.
I guess, Hegseth forgot or doesn't care.
He says, we see your lethal support. We
know exactly what you are doing. You know
very well what the US military is capable
of, and you were warned. It was so
funny how much they think that matters people
in the world. It's it's it's embarrassing.
You will pay the consequences at a time
and place of our choosing.
The hubris is insane. Now the crazy thing
is they've keep they've said this to the
Houthis in Yemen many times now. If you
do that one more time, we will and
then they bomb them. Nothing stops. Doesn't even
hurt them as they've shown many times over
that they're very resilient, and, ultimately, I don't
think The US knows what they're aiming at.
And then they go, you do it again.
Here, we are the strongest in the world.
As always, the person pounding their chest going,
I'm so strong, is probably not that strong.
And Dave de camp from, antiwar.com
says an important thing to understand is that
the Houthis, really the Ansar Allah movement, make
their own missiles as we've been saying for
years on this show. Even Trump has acknowledged
this. That means they're not reliant on Iran
for military support. What Hegseth is saying is
just phony pretext for war. Here's Trump.
And
they're experts. They're experts on missiles. I mean,
they actually make missiles. Nobody thought that, but
they make missiles. It's Yeah. We all did.
Anybody that's not dumb or who's not just
blindly following the corporate media narrative, we already
knew that. I've been talking about it for
years. But funny how people are, you know
it just shows you that the the kind
of hierarchy of where people are in the
world and what news they're listening to. And
some of these inner circle partisan dynamics, they
think they are more informed than anybody, and
they have, like, 1% of the conversation.
Highly sophisticated, and they're very tough,
but they've been,
very badly damaged. Nobody else was able to
do that. But as Pete, do you wanna
discuss that? Oh, oh, yeah. I gotta love
his bombastic nature.
They're they're very badly damaged. No. They're not.
And they haven't even not even a blip.
They're continuing doing,
and I'll show you in a second. Or
that no one else has been able to
do what you didn't actually do. It's just
this funny game he always plays. It's just
and you have to this is what people
like me, and it's not left or right
as much as you people want to carve
it in. I would I criticize Biden the
same way, but the funny thing is how
much he tends to do that. And then
you can't recognize that that's just a lie,
at least a fudging of the truth, which
then happens in everything he does. And then
you act like, oh, he was just being
off the cuff. No. He was lying to
you. That's what that looks like. That's a
lie. No. They didn't destroy them, and no.
They weren't the only one to ever do
what you didn't actually do.
It's just it's just sad. But and and
every time he kicks it off to somebody,
not in this case, but, you know, it's
their responsibility.
Right? Pam Bonny said that it wasn't me.
Like, it's always the kind of thing he's
been doing. Or early on, Marco Rubio, that's
the one. Talked to him. And and Eli
and Eli and Eli and Eli and Eli
and Eli, that's all him. Remember that?
These people know what they're doing. They're trying
to avoid at least what may end up
being some accountability.
Same point with that message from Hegseth.
Glenn pointing out the same message. Greenwald says
in 2024,
Trump condemned Biden for bombing Yemen. Oh, yeah.
We forget about that. At least then, Houthis
were attacking US ships. They stopped with the
Gaza ceasefire.
As we pointed out many times, now The
US is in a sustained war against the
Houthis and vowing war with Iran over it.
Did Trump voters
want more Middle East wars? I heard otherwise.
Obvious, the point is, they stop pretty much
every time there's a ceasefire because the only
thing this is about is stopping the genocide.
And as far as I could tell, unless
you unless somebody could prove me wrong, because
I've been looking at this and following this
since it started, I don't see any casualties
at all. I don't see them stealing anything.
It's all about deterrence. That's what deterrence actually
looks like. And
they stop with the ceasefire. And all they
can do is scream pirates because that's what
they are.
Alright? This is a meme I put out
that I thought was funny because it's very
real. How they want you to think pirates
look, a pirate or a hootie, Ancirala.
And how pirates actually look,
Trump, Marco Rubio, and Biden.
That's the truth.
I'll include that for you.
I mean, the truth is I see it
anyway. And, of course, then we have people
that are trying to support this or interesting.
I would argue that's the case. Charlie Kirk
puts out a a poll that says, should
America bomb or support Israel bombing Iran's nuclear
facilities?
1,600,000
people over almost a 50,000
votes,
69.6%
said no. So I just want you to
really digest this, that this is
there is nobody who wants this. I mean,
I should that's that's not accurate in the
sense of the majority. Like, there are people
who are saying yes to this are the
vast minority in the conversation.
When I say no, but I mean, like,
the parts inside the left, the right, people
that are aware it's all a childish lie.
We all don't want this. Iran war or
any more war. The point is that, nonetheless,
they're acting like it's an ongoing conversation or
maybe we'll do that. We'll do that. They
don't care what you think, guys. That has
to be so clear by now. But people
wanna believe Trump was different this time even
though we've already done this and we were
there last time and, you know, it's nothing
different.
I hope it is. I always have, but
we have to start being honest with what's
happening. Gunther Eagleman, one of these million follower
plus blind Trump supporters says, Iran f'd around
in finding the Houthis in funding the Houthis.
Not what's happening. Trump is now going to
let them find out, like, these lazy old
tropes and memes they're using. It's just so
funny. F around and find out.
I mean, we if that could happen for
the fifth time, we destroyed them again, and
they keep fighting back and stopping what we're
doing. These people are just cheerleaders for their
partisan side. And it's embarrassing. That's why they
get millions of followers because that's a shtick
that works. You pick a side today, oh
my god. You'll go you'll get lots. Go
on Twitter and start yelling certain narratives, you'll
make lots of money.
Or you can be honest. You know, that's
what I prefer. But, of course, it's all
a purchase of oil must stop.
So your argument is
Iran funded the Houthis,
and so he's gonna stop everybody in the
world from dealing with Iran's oil.
Oh, you mean just like every administration going
back as far as you wanna look for
Israel? We've seen the same thing. Nothing new,
bud. Eagleman, you should recognize you're just falling
for the new framing for the same old
attempt to the same old thing that we've
always seen happening.
Or he doesn't care at all because it's
about what is working for the grift. At
the end of the day, f around and
find out, you know, are the evidence who
cares about facts or evidence or legalities or
congressional approval for war? Nah. Those are all
old school things, old dumb Democrat stuff. You
know, it's like, where are we? How are
being ruled by the children in the room?
I don't know.
Now, overall, a few things from the Yemen
from the Yemen conversation that are important.
Yeah. Yemen this is according to Daniela Modis,
May second. Yemen announced banning US crude oil
exports starting on the May 17. Now, obviously,
this is playing a factor for why The
US is trying to focus more here because
that will be a problem for them. Now
this overlaps with what's going on to what
Israel's doing. I think I actually included a
tweet about that. Yeah.
She says fleets of companies will be prohibited
from crossing the Red Sea by Al Mandeb
Straight,
the Gulf Of Aden, and the Arabian Sea,
and the Indian Ocean. Companies violating the ban
were placed on the sanctions list for perpetrators
of aggression against Yemen.
Very interesting.
Now remember, they have shown themselves to be
not just restrained but tactful with this. They're
not hurting they're not killing or hurting people.
They're not stealing. This is about restraint and
resist and and,
and resist,
deterrent. Excuse me.
So this is gonna be a problem for
the US government, which I think is why
this is happening now. Or, like, what the
the
expansion of the agenda is because of this
is one more thing they're adding to it.
Now what's what's interesting is with the great
Grim, Ryan Grim frames this. Here's a Israeli
official. Yemen's military announces that in response
to Israel's plans to expand its operations in
Gaza, which, well, we'll get we'll touch on
the very next show, which I well, maybe
since he says that, we spend grab it
real quick for you.
There's one
part to include that is important,
which just has to do simply with
where was that?
There it is. Israel, Gaza, and what's gonna
happen here?
This, Israel proves conquering Gaza, holding territories
ahead of Trump's Middle East trip, knowing that's
about to happen. Right? So then Trump being
there signifies the world that he's okay with
everything's happening. And, of course, he is because
he I don't think he has a choice
at this point. But his officials told media
local media the cabinet approved expanding their anti
Hamas operations
to, quote, conquering Gaza, holding the territories. Oh,
yeah. You mean, like, they always have been
planning?
Tens of thousands of extra reservists have been
called up. Many of them aren't showing up,
which is the point. But realize, guys, this
is exactly what we always told you was
happening, always what they would wanted to happen,
that they've told you greater Israel, occupation of
Gaza, taking it back. And every day, we
were told by the mainstream media and the
mainstream alternative Trump supporters, no. No. No. That's
a lie and an antisemitic trope. Here we
are.
And by the way, also killing their own
hostages. The people that are still there, that
they're still gonna be hurting by not bringing
food in for over eighty days or however
long it's been.
How do you not recognize what that shows
you? They could have gotten them back 75
times over by just going through with the
deal that they already agreed to.
Wild.
Include that. I'll touch on it in the
next conversation.
And there's also this here. I might as
well just do this play this too since
it's interesting timing, since we're not too long
today.
Ryan Grim shared a, a vi a video
of Netanyahu
saying
basically the overview for what was going on
way back in the beginning of this. And
what Ryan Grim said,
it's interesting to watch this speech from more
than a year ago and try to find
a single sentence that is not demonstrably and
obviously false. I don't think there's a single
one in it. Let's listen to that quick,
and then we'll come back to
where we were.
Oops. That's on the wrong shot anyway. Hold
on.
Well, first, Arangrim said, according to Israel, as
quoted in the New York Times today, it
is legal to block food from population.
Right? That's what they're claiming anyway. And bar
them from traveling.
Yemen now is says that it will shut
down air traffic to Israel in response to
Israel shutting off all the ground and air
and sea in in Gaza. Now my stance
would always be the same on this.
But if you're gonna say one is okay
or one's not okay, then the other's not
either. Even if it's in response to doing
the same thing. So my point though is
that you have to understand you can logically
understand why they're doing this or why they're
reacting to these things. I made this point
before about stopping shipping lanes and so on.
Now that changed, of course, when the international
community made it a crime to support them.
And then you can argue what they were
doing was in line with international law. But
overall,
it's important to draw those lines. Now what
what they're doing is simply going, okay. If
you're gonna do this and you're gonna basically
starve people to death, then you're telling us
and telling the world, which they made an
actual case for now, that we're allowed to
do that. So, therefore, we are too. And
so what they're doing is you're gonna see
in a second that they have already attacked
the Ben Gurin Airport.
Before that, let me play this clip back
to what Ryan was saying in general.
This.
It's interesting to watch this and find a
single sentence sentence in this that is
not a lie.
I wanna make a few points absolutely clear.
Israel has no intention of permanently occupying Gaza
or displacing its civilian population.
Israel is fighting Hamas terrorists,
not the Palestinian population,
and we are doing so in full compliance
with international law.
The IDF is doing its utmost to minimize
civilian casualties,
while Hamas is doing its utmost
to maximize them
by using Palestinian civilians as human shields.
The IDF urges Palestinian civilians to leave war
zones by disseminating leaflets, making phone calls, providing
safe passage corridors,
while Hamas prevents Palestinians from leaving at gunpoint
and often with gunfire. Literally everyone. Our goal
is to rid Gaza of Hamas terrorists and
free our hostages.
Once this is achieved, Gaza can be demilitarized
and deradicalized,
thereby creating a possibility
for a better future for Israel and Palestinians
alike.
Wow.
I mean, just think about that overlap today.
Literally, every single thing he said you can
prove is a lie. Every one of them.
By their own statements, by their own actions,
like right now, saying we're gonna take all
of Gaza, which has always been the plan,
seeing as how they had names for new
settlements that were written out before this even
started,
which you could easily prove.
Now the point is going forward that Yemen
is responding in
kind. Now this was as of May 4.
A missile fire from Yemen struck an access
road. See, that's I I think that's by
design, like we've seen in many of these,
to make sure they're not you know, if
they bombed a, you know, a big area
in the middle of Tel Aviv, then pe
then I would argue that would give them
the justification to respond. Now it's still way
may do that. Israel very clearly, like The
US, always shows that it will go way
over the top.
But
interesting time and and the the very least,
they can argue that we didn't you know,
so they bombed an access road on the
grounds of Israel's Ben Gurion Airport on Sunday
as a heavy US bombing campaign has failed
to deter Yemen's Houthis or officially known as
Anserala.
So they bombed the airport, but doesn't appear
to be any casualties, and it is the
point is seems to be a demonstration.
Now Dave DeCamp,
after this, Ben Netanyahu says president Trump is
right. Attacks by the Houthis emanate from Iran.
See, he's toning the line, guys. I you
can quite literally prove that at the very
least,
this is simply like, what we're talking about
is support from all of these entities
for people being oppressed.
So if you're gonna make the argument that
Iran is work is, you know, are the
Houthis, the same argument made for literally anybody
else in the world who's supporting Iran's effort
to push back against this, or the Yemen,
Houthis, effort to push back against this.
Because the old their argument though is that
this is Iran.
And
yet every single time over the last decade
I've been covering this, they don't prove that.
They just rely on the insinuation.
And why is that like everyone else we're
talking about? Because they know they can't prove
it. It's the same thing every time.
Again, as I've always said, that's not to
say that it could not be the case.
Maybe it is.
Either way, though, it wouldn't be a crime
and would not justify what they're doing. But
it says, seems like Netanyahu is going to
use this Yemeni strike to try and get
his US Iran war. You know, the same
thing they just told you that Mike got
removed from the cabinet, Waltz, because they don't
want that. I don't believe that.
No. Let let let don't be fooled, he
says. The hundreds of attacks made by the
Houthis and the sinister mobsters and thugs based
in Yemen. Are you kidding me? The more
the the starving to death families that you've
been starving well back in your last administration,
Biden after you, well before that as well,
thugs and monsters. It's the same thing they
keep doing every time. You send 75%
of people with no criminal records to El
Salvador, well, rapists, thugs, human traffickers, and more
every one of them. That's what they said
every time
because their blind followers will go along with
the narrative.
Just so gross how obvious it all is.
And lastly, 14 reported injured by US airstrikes
on the Yemeni capital. You know, yet again,
another blatant war crime bombing the low the
civilian densely populated Sana'a area in the capital
of Yemen.
Why? Because how dare you do anything that
hurts Israel?
I just think it's incredible, guys. And, of
course, killing civilians,
hurting people, destroying fact, but now you you
know, you bomb a road, then we're gonna
kill everybody. That's the typical response you get
from The US Israel apparatus.
Lastly, when we're talking about the violation of
rights, let's make sure we don't forget that
Trump is still telling you that at the
very least, he's willing to violate your rights.
Now first place I saw this was high
impact flicks. He does a little eight minute
breakdown you can watch for yourself, but he's
talking about what Trump said in that interview.
We played the start.
Now, also, by the way, I don't know
if you saw this. I just sense he
has it in the picture. Trump literally posted
this.
This is on his Trump suit true social
account. He posts himself as the pope. Now,
of course, that comes back to the fact
that Lindsey Graham,
whether joking or not, just said keep up
an open mind about making Trump the pope.
Now, again, like, my gut instinct would be,
that's obviously a joke. He's trying to troll
people. But I thought that about Trump thinking
MS 13 were actually on that guy's knuckles,
and he actually thought they were. I mean,
I gave the benefit of the doubt because
I thought who would actually think that? Apparently,
he did. Same thing here. Wait. Maybe it's
a troll to start, but who knows how
these things go with how absolutely cartoonish things
are today. Either way, I I don't think
that's actually something that's gonna happen. No. That's
just what that was there for. Here is
the article. Trump asked if he has to
uphold the constitution. He says, I don't know.
Now, yes, he has more to say after
that. I'll play it all for you. But
realize how insane that is. That's what Brian's
basically just own real he just can't even
understand how it's possible. You can have a
president who's standing there answering like like he
says, imagine
I'll I'll just read it. He says, MAGA
would have lost their minds if Biden or
Obama had said this about the constitution, and
you damn well know that's true. He said
that Alice Jones will offer to shine Trump's
shoes and wipe his butt even more after
this because, of course, this was a brilliant
five g chess move to own the libs.
He he gets it. It's obvious how this
keeps going, and that's all you need.
Right? You violate someone's rights, pretend it's a
move to make the libs look bad. It's
so easy to play some of these people
right now.
Let's watch it.
Now I I'll, let me see.
I may stop it once or twice, but
I will play the we'll play it's only
two and a half minutes. We'll play it.
I think there's some important parts to make,
but the overarching point here, guys, is that
he is telling you point blank that at
the very least, it's not sure.
The shall not be infringed inherent rights,
I don't know. Maybe.
I mean, that that in and of itself,
regardless of the narrative that fills in after
that is mind blowing. That how much this
has shifted, how the people who are screaming
about inherent rights are now the ones going,
but when this happens, you know, exactly like
the left was during COVID nineteen. You guys
are the same.
Let's talk about this because, obviously, you've had
a back and forth with the Supreme Court.
In a nine to zero decision, the Supreme
Court directed your administration to facilitate the return.
You've talked about this in the past of
Gilmore Abrego Garcia,
from a prison in El Salvador whose deportation
your administration called an administrative error. You said
in a recent interview you could bring him
back, but you won't. Are you defying the
supreme court? No. I'm relying on the attorney
general of The United States. Pam Bond is
very capable doing a great job.
Oh, well, that makes me feel better. He's
he's letting Pam Bondi make the decisions because
she's clearly very intelligent. I mean, come on.
That's insane to me for many reasons. But
what's crazy about that is is not just
that he's basically saying she's the one deciding
that, but that that's accountability.
I I really think a lot of that's
what it's about. Saying, well, no. No. She's
the one. I'm listening to what she tells
me to do. Well, that doesn't change anything.
So that either means that neither of you
understand the constitution or you're using who as
a scapegoat. Because what we're talking about is
absolute,
shall not be infringed, does not apply to
whether or not. Now let's be clear. We're
talking about Supreme Court ruling, first of all.
And that was that they should get due
process, which is enshrined,
outlining what is already the reality.
But just because you wanna try to make
some weird nuanced argument about why that doesn't
mean what everybody knows it means, it just
shows you're dishonest. That's all it is. And
this is literally about whether or not he
should uphold the constitution.
That's all this comes down to is some
kind of argument or or dehumanization
or some kind of emotional plea that makes
you feel that it's okay to ignore the
constitution in this circumstance.
So as I keep saying, if you think
that, then just be honest about it that
you think the constitution
is not absolute. That there are moments where
the government can say except when this happens,
and then be okay when it happens next
time, when the Democrats do it or whoever
else.
Because I'm not involved in the legality or
the illegality. I'm I've have lawyers to do
that, and that's why I have
a great DOJ. We have a great one.
We had a very corrupt one before. Now
we have a great one. Okay. So that's
again the lazy argument. Well, because, see, now,
Democrats are bad, and we're not Democrats. So
this is whatever I do is good.
Not everybody falls for that. I hope to
god, not the majority,
but a lot of people do. Right? As
long as you frame it as, like Brian
was just saying, right, that this is the
opposite of what they were doing, then it
must be the good thing.
And they're
not viewing the decision the way you said
it. They don't view it that way at
all. They think it's a totally different decision.
Well, you right. So basically meaning that everyone
can read what that says, and they just
pretend it means something else, which is not
new at all. That's how these people have
operated for a very long time. They abuse
this system. You say you have the power
to bring them back, though. Your attorney general
says, quote, that's up to El Salvador. Just
to put a fine point on this, do
you have
the power to bring Abrego Garcia back as
the supreme court? Well, I have the power
to ask for
him to come back if So somebody trained
him on this. Right? Because he said more
than once, I can do that. I just
don't want I'm not going to. So somebody
is clearly saying you can't say it like
that. Then you have to this is how
you're supposed to now this is an evolution
of them trying to avoid accountability.
But point is,
he can ask.
So you're so he doesn't wanna say either
I can't do that because that makes him
feel inadequate. You know, that he's not in
control of everything. But if he says he
can, well, that puts him in a legal
position. So typical Trump, right down the middle,
let you assume whichever way you want. That's
how he does this. The power to ask
for
him to come back if I'm instructed by
the attorney general that it's legal to do
so. But the decision as to whether or
not he should come back will be the
head of El Salvador. He's a very capable
man. Whether he's legally allowed to, I mean,
think about how stupid that is. So if
Trump right now brought back Garcia,
you wanna point out for me who it
is that's gonna go illegal?
Who? Show me. Who who's gonna then jump
up and say what you did was wrong?
The Supreme Court ruled that he had to.
The reality is they admitted it was an
administrative error. So, there's literally nobody on any
side that's saying that it's illegal for him
to bring him back except them.
So, they're manufacturing their own argument for why
they don't bring it back. It's just childish.
He's just using this lazy excuse because people
will it's like it's like we've always said
with team sports. This is team sport politics.
Right? When you know your guy was offsides,
but you don't wanna lose, you're cheering on
the fact that the refs called it the
other way. That's what this is.
Oh, you're giving them the the ammunition to
argue why it's okay, but you know you're
wrong. Guys, you know this is not the
case.
Wait. The the point is if you're gonna
claim
Come back, we'll be the head of El
Salvador. He's a very capable man. Oh, right.
He's not that it's illegal to do so.
Yeah. So he needs Pam Bondi to tell
him whether or not it's illegal for him
to bring him back. Well, did you have
the conversation?
Are are we pretending like you guys are
still figuring that out?
Right? I mean, he didn't say one way
or the other. Otherwise, he'd say, well, I'm
not going to because it is illegal. He's
acting like it's still up in the air.
This is just a sidestep.
I don't know. This is this is why
I often point out why these hacks that
are in the corporate media don't even try
to do their jobs, or they're so hyper
focused on the partisan divide issues that don't
there's a wide open gap right there.
They don't take it.
But the decision as to whether or not
he should come back will be the head
of El Salvador. He's a very capable man.
Well, you know, and your attorney general has
said it the issues with that word facilitate.
Will you seek clarification from the Supreme Court?
Do you need to go back to the
Supreme Court? May do that. I was asking
about that. We may do that. Your secretary
of state says everyone who's here, citizens and
noncitizens, deserve due process. Do you agree?
That's Marco Rubio. And, of course, he's doing
that because he's trying to let out some
steam, I think, and he doesn't wanna be
on the table for what comes next, my
opinion.
But he did say that. And then went
on to give you the same old arguments
about how you can't stop us from deporting
and no one's trying to do that. We're
stopping about this is about the illegal use
of the act and the lack of due
process, no matter what the other conversation is.
Ever and and as I said before, there
are still people being deported.
So they're acting like you're stopping us from
doing the thing that we're actually still doing.
We're he's they're trying to conflate
the criminal acts they're doing. No. If you
actually had given
presented the evidence, which is not a trial,
the way he frames it in this, there
in fact, there's evidence even with the warrant
conversation, the way things work, it's it's not
days and per weeks. It's
apparently, it can be up to half an
hour in some cases. The point is, overall,
this is an abuse of the situation.
Right? They're taking advantage of what you understand.
I don't know. I'm not I'm not a
lawyer.
I don't know. Well, the fifth I'm asking
about that. We may do that. Your secretary
of state says everyone who's here, citizens and
noncitizens, deserve due process. Do you agree, mister
president? Know. I'm not I'm not a lawyer.
How can you possibly say that? And I'll
play the rest. I don't know. I'm not
I'm not a lawyer.
It's a fundamental fact.
Judges anywhere will tell you that. The law
will tell you that. Grok will tell you
that. I'll show you the things yet again
next.
Right? Rio versus Flores, what the other one
was, I'll show you in a second. The
one that Grok references. All of which tell
you, yes, without question, guys. Illegal aliens have
constitutional rights. In particular, Rio versus Flores, deportation
win deportation.
And all it means is that they have
to just verify what they're saying is correct.
Why you think that's not doesn't have to
happen,
all that means is always is then they
can just claim you are an illegal alien.
Right? They catch you out in the wilderness
while you're camping. You don't have your identification,
and they go, you're an illegal alien. They
rush you off to El Salvador. Well, they
didn't have to prove anything because there's no
due process for illegal aliens. Right? Yes. That
sounds like an abstract reality. The point is
that they can find ways to go after
whoever they want if you give them an
opening where they don't have to prove what
they're saying.
When did it ever come to pass that
Republicans of all people were of the mind
that the government didn't need to verify what
it's accusing people of? Whether it is an
alien, a green card holder, Visa card holder,
or an American citizen, the principle is exactly
the same.
And now this is the watering down of
this in a very dangerous way at a
very dangerous time.
I think I'm I'm gonna let the rush
play. Your secretary of state says everyone who's
here, citizens and noncitizens, deserve due process. Do
you agree, mister president? I don't know. I'm
not I'm not a lawyer.
I don't know. Well, the fifth amendment says
I don't know. It seems it seems
it it might say that, but if you're
talking about that, then we'd have to have
a million or 2,000,000 or 3,000,000 trials. We
have thousands of people that are some murderers
and some drug dealers and some of the
worst people on earth. But it Some of
the worst, most dangerous people on earth. And
I was elected to get them the hell
out of here, and the courts are holding
me from doing it. But Ah, damn it.
I've I've I've got a I've got a
comment on that. I'm sorry. I thought there
was no more points, but you guys all
know. I'm gonna do it anyway.
What who what you were elected for is
sort of irrelevant because you're not gonna pretend
like everyone has the same ideas about what
they want. But overall, the simple point is
you point to the fact that you were
elected and act like that rationalizes
you to do whatever you want. It's it
is it is a bad argument. Courts are
holding me from doing it. And, no, they're
not. The courts are not holding you from
deporting anybody. The courts are saying you have
to give due process in the in which
has always been the reality, guys. That's why
this has been going on in the past.
Like, they that's why they have these hearings.
The point is they're just trying to argue
they want it to be different because they
know that that's in to meet what they
argue they wanna accomplish, they can't do it
this way. So as I keep saying,
they want something. They realize the constitution is
a hinder for them or a block for
them to do it the way they want,
so they manufacture a justification for why that
shouldn't apply in this moment. It's like every
other conversation we've had. If you give them
the excuse to say the converse the constitution
suddenly doesn't apply, it will never be real.
And that we've been there for a long
time, you understand. This is the extension of
that problem. If it is repugnant to the
constitution, it's null and void. Every day, we
see things that are no repugnant to the
constitution. And now we've got the president of
The United States telling you that it doesn't
even necessarily apply. And then she asked point
blank about whether he should defend it at
all like you heard, and he says, I
don't know.
And don't forget,
five times he has floated the idea of
sending Americans
to foreign prisons.
But
even given those numbers that you're talking about,
don't you need to uphold the constitution of
The United States as president? I don't know.
I have to respond by saying again,
I have brilliant lawyers that work for me.
So you'll you'll use them to work around
the constitution.
It's all that means. It's not it's not
wiggle room. It shall not be infringed. They're
very clear.
You're talking about using them to maneuver around
what is inherent.
And they are going to obviously follow what
the supreme court said. What you said is
not what I heard the supreme court said.
They have a different interpretation.
Right. So everyone can understand what it means,
and you guys can claim to think otherwise,
and all your followers will say the same
thing, and then you just leave it there.
So you could do that with everything forever,
and that's where this is. And unless congress
is willing to step up and force in
the Supreme Court ruling, which everyone knows what
they're asking, everybody, everywhere, he's pretending not. It
doesn't he's pretending he doesn't.
Then if the if congress does not step
up and do something about it, then there
is no law. The president could do whatever
he wants. Like, that that this is why
people argue this could be the beginning of
the actual end of what this system is.
Well, maybe that's what people want. I mean,
the bottom line though is you have to
be honest about what is happening in front
of us. Is anyone in your administration
right now
in contact with El Salvador about returning Abrego
Garcia to you? I don't know. You'd have
to ask, the attorney general that question.
Wow. So Trump doesn't even know, which I
don't agree with. I think he's lying.
That is about making it all about Pam
Bondi, and she's the one talk to her.
You really think he doesn't know what's going
on?
That seems wild. That seems naive to think
that's the case. But, guys, I mean, you
you this
is very clear.
He's simply trying to sidestep the reality of
it by acting like, well, it's a nuanced
conversation. That's not what I heard the Supreme
Court say. He's playing you. And if you're
willing to go along with that, then then
you're okay with people lying. And maybe you
are. Maybe you don't care. Maybe it's all
about dunking on the Democrats. If that's the
case, I don't know why you're here because
that's crazy, and that is juvenile.
The problem though, guys,
is that this is being
seeded,
driven by people that are not here for
American interests, like Zionist Stephen Miller.
He says nine hours ago, the right of
due process, which I'm not sure why that's
in quotes, that's the interesting thing to reflect
on, is to protect citizens from their government,
not to protect foreign trespassers
from removal.
Due process guarantees the rights of a criminal
defendant facing prosecution, not an illegal alien facing
deportation. Flatly incorrect. So, again, like I said,
I wanna think that's where this comment was.
Either he doesn't know that or he's lying.
I'm not sure which one terrifies me more.
But what's crazy about it,
protect citizens from their government, not foreign trespassers.
Okay, Stephen Miller. Let's play with this. How
do you know they're foreign trespassers?
Not a trick question. Right? So you'll claim
that. Right? But what if you're wrong? We've
already seen most exemes of these people you
sent were you were wrong about.
Right? Or lied about.
So the interesting thing is, how do you
know they're actually well, you'd have to have
evidence to prove that. Right? And then do
you just show that to yourself? No. You
have to present that to be able to
make the argument for why legally he should
be removed. Because for all we know, he's
an American citizen. Four times, I've covered where
they've arrested American citizens that they accuse of
being illegal aliens that turn out not to
be. And two of them
were seconds away from going to El Salvador
if the Supreme Court hadn't stopped them. So
you have to realize, we would have already
had American citizens
deported and not the children, act 18 plus,
being sent there because they were brown without
identification
and had either tattoos or not, just in
the wrong place.
That's not a joke. There's an 18 year
old kid who was here legally that is
currently in El Salvador because he was in
the wrong place. The IRS the,
ICE agent was heard saying, that's not the
one. The leader said, take him anyway. He's
never coming back.
How do we not see what this is?
So they should be obviously proving what they're
saying because, one, they're either lying or wrong
half the time, but, overall, because that's just
how this works.
And it says,
Alexander, random guy on Twitter calling out the
deputy chief of staff and policy for homeland
security
and and and homeland, excuse me. Key deputy
chief of staff for policy and homeland security
adviser.
Apparently, the guy is the in the kind
of administrating this whole immigration policy.
Now we see why this is obviously happening.
Zionism driving the whole thing. And he goes,
no. The fourteenth amendment prohibits depriving, quote, any
person, which is how it reads, of life,
liberty, or property without due process of law.
Supreme court has held the right to due
process extends to all human beings in The
United States regardless of citizenship. Yeah. This is
very easy to prove. Here it is. Constitution
anoint this is on constitution.congress.gov.
He says, 04/07/2025,
the court ruled that, quote, detainees subject to
removal under orders under the AEAR, that's the
Alien Enemies Act, are entitled to notice and
an opportunity to challenge their removal, otherwise known
as due process. That's right here.
You think Miller doesn't know that? Guys, this
is a very, very disgustingly dishonest person who
knows what he's doing, who's literally working, in
my opinion, for a foreign government to undermine
this country's rights,
or really in particular as it outlines anybody's
rights. That's the reality of it. That's why
it was enshrined and outlined as inherent god
given rights that would have existed whether or
not they wrote them down on that piece
of hemp paper.
Now Doge, of course, steps in Doge AI
and responds to Stephen Miller and says, due
process exists to protect American citizens from government
overreach, not to shield illegal aliens who violate
our laws. Wrong.
Like, these these are I mean, this is
supposed to be the Doge AI automated response.
So, clearly, we can see how AI can
be manipulated. That's flatly incorrect, and it's easy
to prove. But here he is speaking up
because they have a coordinated agenda, which is
not for American interests. How could we not
see this by now?
Lastly, I simply said the obvious. Well, Grock
says you're a liar or educated.
Not sure which is more alarming. Not not
I don't and I wouldn't I'm no no
way arguing Grock is somebody you should be
blindly listening to. But I think it's even
more interesting that if of all places, Grock
is saying, yes. Illegal aliens have the right
to due process under The US constitution. And
Stephen Miller, at the highest levels of power
in the current administration, is going, that's not
true.
That should be that should be
chilling. And here's just Reno versus Flores, where
it says, the fifth amendment entitles aliens due
process of law and deportation proceedings. That Scalia
is the one that pointed this out.
So as always, it's incredible that we're here.
That right now, it seems that most Americans
are clearly aware of this. I mean, these
are these are things that you could have
brought up in circles of anybody's political standing
a decade ago, and it would have been
like, well, obviously. But somehow, we've gotten to
a point to where an Israeli agenda has
taken over this country to the point to
where we are shooting ourselves in both feet.
It's time to wake up or we're not
gonna be able to come back from this.
And that happened that that's that's with globalism.
That's with technocracy.
We are and I mean, we've been saying
this, excuse me, around the technocratic drive,
the great reset.
These are fundamental truths at this point. They're
literally showing you how we're gonna drive us
into some, you know, Chinese emulated social credit
dynamic and everything else they're building. You couple
that with the idea of a apartheid Zionist
maniacal agenda,
that's a that that goes well beyond just
a terrifying reality.
I mean, all of this could go in
a lot of different ways.
All I care about is that you know
what the information you can decide for yourself
and make informed decisions, and that you do
so in a way that is, you know,
at least as I would desire,
that is in the interest of kindness,
compassion,
human empathy. You know, that we are driving
that we are being driven by a lot
of people out there that act like that's
somehow archaic
or or childish or naive or woke Democrat.
It's disgusting that we're being driven by people
that clearly are acting against your interest and
telling you that by saying anything about it,
you're being weak.
They know how to play people, guys, and
it's obvious they're playing at the weakest amongst
us. So stand up and fight for them
even though they don't know you're fighting for
them.
Thank you for being here.
I love you all. As always, question everything.
Come to your own conclusions.
Stay vigilant.