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Welcome to the Last American Vagabond. Joining me

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today is Vanessa Bealy, here to follow-up on

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a story that has been developing, that we've

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been covering the last couple of days in

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regard to Syria, really, honestly, for quite a

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while. March 8 for the most part, but

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long before that if you understand the full

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breadth of the story, which which is, the

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discussion around or, like, March was the wrong

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month. The discussion around the idea of the

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fall of Assad

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and the overtaking of that country. Now, obviously,

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there's a lot of mixed narratives and a

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lot of misinformation flying around. The obvious facts

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that we can see is that the group,

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Hayat Erl Sham, that Vanessa and I have

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talked about more than once, that she's been

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doing work around for a very long time,

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clearly has been backed by The US and

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Israel. These are facts that aren't that are

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on the table.

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The interesting overlap is what's happened since. And

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the argument this is some kind of a

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popular revolution even though the evidence on the

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ground with ISIS patch wearing support, people supported

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by these two entities that are

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extremists, whether Al Qaeda, ISIS overlap,

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executing people in the streets.

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All the time forward now, we're coming back

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to a a kind of partisan focus on

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the conversation when that very same group, when

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they've tried to whitewash and put them in

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a suit and act like this is some

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kind of, literally I can't believe still that

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they use the term,

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was it, now I'm gonna forget. It wasn't

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like a it was something about a woke

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jihadist or something in that mindset about somehow

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a a a, you know, rejuvenated

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jihadist

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and the idea being that this is somehow

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different. And now the partisan focus is why

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we're seeing a mass

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slaughtering, a massacre of all the whites largely,

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but really just anybody in the wrong location

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in a coastal area or happened to have

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the wrong accent. And this is exactly what

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we were talking about. And when Christians included,

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but, really, just anybody that is in the

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wrong place at the wrong time, that this

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is what would happen when the people that

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we have been pointing to for a very

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long time were allowed to take power, and

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this is ultimately what the Assad government had

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been fighting the entire time. And now the

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interesting

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conversation where the people who supported those groups,

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who told you that they were in power

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now because of their air strikes, because of

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what they did, are now turning around and

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saying, look at this is why Muslims are

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bad. Here's the radical Islam that we've been

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fighting. Even though you can draw a straight

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line back from them to the funding of

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these very groups, proudly supporting them as it

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was happening. So Vanessa's here to tell us

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what's really going on as usual. Somebody who

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is on the ground fighting these things, showing

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you the truth from day one, and, and

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hopefully that truth can break through today. So,

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Vanessa, thank you for joining as always. How

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are you?

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Oh, I'm fine. Thanks. I noticed that we've

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got the usual Internet gremlins whenever we get

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together. It's it's kind of,

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a a little bit delayed

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when I'm listening to you, so we'll try

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to overcome that. We always seem to have

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this problem.

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Yeah. Every single time it seems in a

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really obvious way, but it's the way the

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world that's the technocratic world we live in.

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But thank you thank you for taking the

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time because I know that this is a

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very serious and I know emotional and personal

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conversation for you, and it it's something that

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I mean, really, it's human life and suffering,

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so I think it should be for everybody

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with, you know, I guess, compassion.

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So thank you for taking the time to

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talk about this because it's I mean, you

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could tell me to what degree you think

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it's worse or less or what it's been

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in the past, but I've never really seen

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the the whether it's just the partisan kind

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of political conversation or the foreign policy extension

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of that. I I just I it's a

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little bit unnerving to see how wild it's

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gotten, how whether it's about free speech or

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anything else where it's just like the diametric

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opposite of what they're claiming

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and and yet it just doesn't people that

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wanna support it will support it anyway. I

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mean, this is a really bad conversation. So,

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I mean, I'd I'd like to start, if

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you could, to for those I mean, I'll

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include all of our previous interviews and the

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conversation we've had going back a long

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way. But for for those that wanna get

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caught up in all this, but I'd like

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to start with, like, what is the reality

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of Syria right now? Because I've made this

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point in the past about other locations where,

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you know, the like, the

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Balkanization idea where these things have been these

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countries don't really exist anymore, but yet the

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name is on the map. Like, you know,

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any number of different things. Like, we're seeing

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the moving of bound of of borders for

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every aspect of what Israel is, but the

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the conversation stays the same. We pretend that

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these things are still the same country. Does,

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you know, does Syria still exist in the

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context of what Syria was? And, you know,

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what what's the reality of that on the

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ground from a governmental standpoint and before we

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even get into, like, what's happening today?

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difficult to see Syria as still being,

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what is a sovereign nation. You know, its

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borders

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are not under its control.

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Israel,

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since December,

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when the international coup successfully

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overthrew the Syrian

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government

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and put in power an Al Qaeda

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junta,

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you know, with no,

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mandate from the people whatsoever

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that,

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Junta then proceeded to

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dissolve

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the

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parliament to dissolve.

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They came in with a mandate to hold

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elections,

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and to rewrite the constitution. And, of course,

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that is one of the reasons that was

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used by the West to to demonize president

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Assad is that he was delaying,

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the rewriting of the constitution. And yet soon

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as he elected

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Jelani

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was,

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basically saying that elections would not happen for

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four years. The constitution

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would not be

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rewritten for at least three years and so

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you know almost immediately

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it became very apparent

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that this was a government that was completely

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illegitimate

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but was legitimized immediately by the Western

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countries like The US, The UK, the EU,

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the Gulf States,

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by Turkey, even by Russia,

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who were very fast to go and legitimize

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the government with a visit by

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the deputy foreign minister Bogdanoff

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very shortly after,

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Jolani came to power. I'm calling him Jolani

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adopted name of Ahmed al Shadda. He's, Mohammed

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sorry, Abu Mohammed al Jelani.

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And he's still HTS. He's still Al Qaeda.

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His entire government is made up of Al

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Qaeda elements, majority of whom have Turkish citizenship.

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They they can't even legitimately be called Syrian.

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The new Syrian army because, of course, he

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he completely

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dissolved not only the Syrian army, but even

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the Palestinian,

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resistance factions within Syria. So while claiming to

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support Palestine,

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he's actually dissolved all of the Palestinian resistance

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factions and taken away

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their arms and reduced their status to refugees.

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were always given citizenship,

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but they were not given,

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naturalization

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in Syria to enable them to have the

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right to return

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in Palestine. That's a very important point to

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to make. Syria was one of the countries

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that did the most for,

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Palestinian refugees after the Nakba

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of nineteen forty eight. And then, of course,

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almost immediately, I mean, even on the day

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that I managed to get out of Damascus,

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Israel was,

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destroying Syria's,

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defense and offense capability,

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from a military perspective,

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destroying their air defense capability,

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their,

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air bases,

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their radar equipment, their navy,

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all of their military installations including,

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their development and research centers from where they

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had to a large extent been producing the

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weapons,

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that were being sent to the Palestinian resistance

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and to the Lebanese resistance

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in their war against,

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the illegal

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occupation by the Zionist entity.

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really ceased to be the sovereign nation that

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we all knew, and it became very clear

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immediately again that the plan was to partition,

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Syria.

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that HTS to a large degree was imposed

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upon the Syrian people was to create such

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an extremist,

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atmosphere where ethnic cleansing programs

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were ongoing from the December 9

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onwards despite reassurances

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from Jelani that that, you know, people would

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be safe and so on. People were encouraged

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to come back to their towns

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and villages. Soldiers were encouraged to,

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basically

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apply for amnesty.

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Those same soldiers now are being executed on

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the spot again across,

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Syria.

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where is Syria now?

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In the South, of course, it's now under,

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Israeli control.

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under the HTS umbrella.

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US bases and in the East on the

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border with Iraq and Jordan.

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not only the Kurdish separatist factions

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that have now just signed a deal with

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HTS. We'll come on to that in a

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ISIS, the the ISIS holding camps in the

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carry out attacks against the Syrian Arab army

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and their allies inside Syria, but now also

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redirecting them towards Iraq,

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and towards attacks not only against the Iraqi

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resistance factions,

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but also against, for example,

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electrical power stations and so on. In other

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words,

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destabilizing

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civilian infrastructure

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in Iraq just as they did for the

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last fourteen years,

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inside Syria.

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Yeah. So there's a couple of things I

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wanna ask around that. So in in in

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regard to the resistance aspect of it. So,

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I mean, obviously, you answered the question in

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regard to Syria, and I that's exactly what

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I would think as well is that this

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is,

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essentially doesn't exist anymore in the sense of

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what it actually was now that they have

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ascent not just because this power is shifting,

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but because they're going to break this up

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into different locations. I'm wondering whether they ever

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even, like you know, is it gonna be

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Kurdistan on the map, or are they just

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gonna still make it Syria? Well, I guess

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we'll have to wait and see. I just

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that's my point is that it's just about

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the the narrative going forward in a lot

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of this. But in regard to, like, a

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resistance aspect, I'm still seeing, as you pointed

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out, Israel, I think yesterday or the day

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before, like, act continuing to bomb certain locations.

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Is there any verifiable L S element of

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resistance

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that would represent even just against fighting whatever

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this is, maybe even still trying to reinstall

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some kind of Assad control? Are any of

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that still happening in regards to what's happening

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on the ground?

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Yeah. I mean, you do have,

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I think what they're calling themselves is the

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Islamic resistance in Syria, which, of course, is,

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similar to the Islamic resistance of Iraq.

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They have been carrying out isolated attacks against,

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Zionist positions in the South. There have been

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some protests, for example, in Kuneitra, when the,

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Druze communities in Sueda, even in Dara,

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all of which are areas South Of Damascus

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against,

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Israeli occupation.

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But effectively, the HTS,

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government has has I mean, while they're massacring,

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Ala Whites and other,

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minorities

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on the coastal areas

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and even down into Hamar and and near

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Homs, for example,

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they're ignoring,

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the the consistent

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expansion

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by Israel into Syrian territory. You know? Now

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they're moving forward North Of Adara, which is

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like

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South Of Damascus.

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They recently got involved in,

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clashes between the Druze factions

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in Jerimana,

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which is,

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a kind of a suburb to the Southeast

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Of Damascus, very close to the

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Shia Muslim,

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pilgrim and shrine of Seyda Zaynab that was

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regularly bombed, of course,

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by Israel

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during,

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the

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the former,

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presidency.

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And they're basically piggybacking

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the the Druze conflict with HTS,

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and issuing statements that they will come to

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the protection of the Druze against HTS. They

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are describing HTS as an Islamist extremist

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regime despite the fact that, of course, they

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supported them since 02/2011.

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They provided them

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with arms, with hospital treatment,

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with their support,

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very important

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of the kind of

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conditions. Israel was there offering escort for them

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against the Syrian Arab army.

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Now they're they're playing the game of of

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kind of describing it as an Islamist

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extremist regime

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saying that they will come to the protection

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of the Druze. The Druze are basically putting

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out statements saying we, you know, we didn't

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ask for this.

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But if you look at the trajectory

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of of basically where Israel wants to end

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up, it's the David Corridor.

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So what that means is full control of,

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territory South Of Damascus

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and then a corridor going up, the Eastern

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flank of Syria

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joining with the Northeast, which, of course, is

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under the control of the Kurds that are

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also very much backed,

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by Israel,

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and then finally,

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entering Iraq up to the banks of the

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Euphrates. This is part of the greater Israel

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map.

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And so that's very clear that they see

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their support of the Druze as being part

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of that ability to expand,

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their territorial gains inside Syria. And I think

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it's also very important to make a note

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that right now,

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Russia and Israel

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appear to be entering into partnership

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inside Syria

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to basically

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push back against Erdogan's

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neo Ottoman,

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ambitions.

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And so Israel is actually lobbying The United

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States

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to allow Russia to maintain its places,

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in Tartus and Latakia on on the coastal

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areas, the Eastern Mediterranean coastal areas of Syria.

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And, you know, we're seeing this collaboration now

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between Israel and Russia being very much as

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a pushback, as I said, against Turkey. And

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I think, you know, we have to remember

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to some degree,

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it's believed

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that really Turkey betrayed all of them. Why?

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Because the initial

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intelligence

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was suggesting

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that HTS was kind of supposed to stop

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at Aleppo.

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In reality, of course, we know what happened,

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for various reasons and know the Syrian Arab

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Army didn't surrender all its weapons. It was

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also

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betrayed. Commanders who were still fighting were taken

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off the field.

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Russia was effectively

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bombing, empty land. It wasn't bombing the HDS

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convoy

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that were

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information

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they took from on the ground while I

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was there

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but also,

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after

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Damascus on the December 8.

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And so, you know, really, this is this

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is

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Russia's way of saying, right, you know, like,

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we'll get our own back now because Turkey

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pushed HTS forward and its own, Syrian National

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Army, which were formerly a free Syrian army,

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which are the Muslim Brotherhood factions under control

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of Erdogan and and Ankara,

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push them forward into Damascus,

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when

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Damascus

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fell, but in reality,

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the groups that actually entered Damascus First

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were the Russian formed fifth legion, which were

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formed under armed groups in the South that

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were also very much supported in Israel. They

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were the first,

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excuse me, to enter Damascus.

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So

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clear to me now

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now the conflict

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is to a degree between Turkey and Israel,

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although they collaborated in the first place,

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to overthrow the Syrian,

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government. And, of course, we know that

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Erdogan has been supplying

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oil from Baku. It's been supplying

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materials to make weapons and so on

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to Israel throughout the Palestinian genocide

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despite claims that it stopped.

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We know from from people that have been

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tracking the shipping and so on that it

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has continued, basically.

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And just to make sure because it was

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cutting out a little bit throughout that. So

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you're you said that it seems as if

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Turkey and Israel are the ones kind of

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no. It wasn't your fault, obviously. For the

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the so Turkey and Israel were the ones

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that were they're fighting essentially over Syria. Is

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that what you were saying?

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Yeah. I mean, basically,

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the initial coup was a collaboration

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between very much Turkey and Israel

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Oh. To overthrow the Syrian government. Yeah. But

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now what we're seeing,

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is that there is potential for other ones'

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neo Ottoman

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empire ambitions

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to clash with Israel's greater Israel

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expansionism.

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Right. And so therefore, what Israel is now

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doing is trying to rope Russia in to

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a degree,

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and I have to say Russia appears to

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be coming rather willingly into that partnership,

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to have control of the coast through Russia,

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Russia maintaining its military bases,

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and basically to be able to take control

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of that Eastern Northeastern Corridor to prevent

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the Ottoman

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expansion,

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into Iraq and towards,

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Azerbaijan,

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of course, because Turkey and Israel

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have some control in as well, a lot

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of control in Azerbaijan,

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you know, leading up to the borders of

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Iran. So this is really interesting. I wanna

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make sure we at least touch on the

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Russia part of that, what you feel from

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that, what your thoughts are in that based

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on the previous, you know, situation. But before

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that so what's what is really first actually

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noticed for those that haven't really seen this

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this is not a hypothetical.

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This as you guys as you guys probably

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know, there's even a patch on their uniforms

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right now. Greater Israel is a very real

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and public discussion. There is a part of

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Greater Israel that goes into Turkey. Right? But

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note that it it literally has designs that

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take half of Iraq, most of Syria, part

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of Kuwait,

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half of Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt. Like, this

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is what it looks like to have a

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real globalist mindset or, you know, authoritarian aspect.

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But the interesting part here is that when

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we first talked about this, right, when we

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first got together right after that and, by

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the way, I I did think I said

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the wrong month. I think I was correct.

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I think I said March on accident. Obviously,

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not three days ago. We meant December 8.

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But the point was that, when we talked

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about this right afterward, what was interesting was

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that we were kinda theorizing. Right? Because we

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didn't really know what's going on. And one

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of the things we were discussing was what

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actually happened in regard to why you know?

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And one of the theorizing points was whether

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Israel essentially had just taken advantage of the

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situation and rushed in and taken more territory,

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but it sounds like that might have been

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kind of the design from Turkey and Israel.

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And I'm curious what you think what US

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was was that part of their plan as

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well? Like, everything seems to be happening, seems

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to be to their detriment for everybody else.

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And I just find it to be very

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conspicuous.

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But then I also want your thoughts on

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on Russia's play in all of this in

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regard to,

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you know, is that Russia

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double crossing Syria? Or how do you see

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that? Like, I find it hard to wrap

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my mind around them willingly working alongside Israel

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with all that we thought was happening before

551
00:20:05,164 --> 00:20:06,765
in regard to Syria and Russia and you

552
00:20:06,765 --> 00:20:07,965
know? So what are your thoughts on all

553
00:20:07,965 --> 00:20:08,465
that?

554
00:20:09,740 --> 00:20:11,900
Yeah. Well, I think from from The United

555
00:20:11,900 --> 00:20:13,740
States' point of view, of course, one of

556
00:20:13,740 --> 00:20:14,400
kind of

557
00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:15,920
one of Trump's,

558
00:20:16,619 --> 00:20:17,119
election,

559
00:20:18,299 --> 00:20:20,860
mandates that he gave himself was to withdraw

560
00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:23,340
his troops from Syria, and that had been

561
00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:25,154
one of his mandates back in his,

562
00:20:26,115 --> 00:20:27,015
first administration.

563
00:20:28,595 --> 00:20:29,414
And so,

564
00:20:30,515 --> 00:20:33,634
it would be to The US advantage because

565
00:20:33,634 --> 00:20:34,295
right now,

566
00:20:34,994 --> 00:20:37,394
I think Trump is not focused on Syria.

567
00:20:37,394 --> 00:20:40,500
He's not particularly focused on the Middle East

568
00:20:40,500 --> 00:20:42,759
per se other than sort of closing.

569
00:20:43,779 --> 00:20:46,180
And I don't mean to sound sort of

570
00:20:46,180 --> 00:20:48,580
very cynical on this, but literally closing the

571
00:20:48,580 --> 00:20:51,080
Gaza file, closing the Palestine file,

572
00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:51,924
and

573
00:20:52,304 --> 00:20:53,845
and bringing about the normalization

574
00:20:54,384 --> 00:20:55,924
of all of the,

575
00:20:56,304 --> 00:20:56,804
Sunni

576
00:20:57,265 --> 00:21:00,944
Islamic states, you know, including Saudi Arabia. That

577
00:21:00,944 --> 00:21:01,765
that is

578
00:21:02,304 --> 00:21:03,285
his ambition,

579
00:21:04,809 --> 00:21:08,009
apart from his, you know, waterfront development ambitions

580
00:21:08,009 --> 00:21:09,630
also in Gaza and so on.

581
00:21:10,490 --> 00:21:12,490
But I think for The US, it would

582
00:21:12,490 --> 00:21:13,869
be hugely advantageous

583
00:21:14,250 --> 00:21:18,029
if Israel took control of that eastern corridor

584
00:21:18,664 --> 00:21:19,105
and,

585
00:21:19,544 --> 00:21:20,444
coming into

586
00:21:20,744 --> 00:21:22,204
the Northeast. Because

587
00:21:22,664 --> 00:21:24,265
what would that mean? That would mean Trump

588
00:21:24,265 --> 00:21:26,664
can withdraw his troops and know that that

589
00:21:26,664 --> 00:21:29,304
area is safely under the control of their

590
00:21:29,304 --> 00:21:30,525
strongest ally,

591
00:21:30,904 --> 00:21:32,605
if not, you know, their military

592
00:21:33,409 --> 00:21:34,789
outpost in the region.

593
00:21:36,210 --> 00:21:37,190
What is interesting

594
00:21:37,890 --> 00:21:39,509
for me is is this,

595
00:21:40,609 --> 00:21:43,409
SDF contract that's just been signed between the

596
00:21:43,409 --> 00:21:44,390
SDF and

597
00:21:45,409 --> 00:21:45,909
HTS,

598
00:21:46,210 --> 00:21:47,429
bringing SDF

599
00:21:47,809 --> 00:21:48,710
under the control

600
00:21:50,024 --> 00:21:52,664
of the kind of new Syrian army, although

601
00:21:52,664 --> 00:21:53,164
I

602
00:21:53,464 --> 00:21:55,704
would contest whether it's Syrian and whether it's

603
00:21:55,704 --> 00:21:57,565
an army or just another terrorist,

604
00:21:58,585 --> 00:22:01,544
faction basically being created, another part of the

605
00:22:01,544 --> 00:22:02,684
Tech Fury project.

606
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,700
But if that happens,

607
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:06,299
that actually brings

608
00:22:08,519 --> 00:22:09,019
the

609
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,220
nemesis of Turkey,

610
00:22:10,599 --> 00:22:11,740
which are the SDF,

611
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:14,059
under the control

612
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:14,940
effectively

613
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:15,980
of

614
00:22:16,484 --> 00:22:20,164
Turkey's proxy, which is HTS, but HTS also

615
00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:22,805
double up as a proxy for Israel and

616
00:22:22,805 --> 00:22:25,365
for The United States. Mhmm. So, you know,

617
00:22:25,365 --> 00:22:26,664
there's a lot of maneuvering

618
00:22:27,045 --> 00:22:29,285
going on right now, and whether Turkey sees

619
00:22:29,285 --> 00:22:30,424
this as a potential,

620
00:22:33,009 --> 00:22:36,390
avenue to be able to end the Kurdish

621
00:22:38,049 --> 00:22:40,690
problem, if you like, in the Northeast and

622
00:22:40,690 --> 00:22:41,990
to give them potentially,

623
00:22:43,730 --> 00:22:46,049
let's say, at least joint control in the

624
00:22:46,049 --> 00:22:47,750
Northeast to give HTS,

625
00:22:49,224 --> 00:22:51,384
access to the oil, of course, which was

626
00:22:51,384 --> 00:22:51,884
always

627
00:22:53,304 --> 00:22:55,625
denied to president Assad and to the Syrian

628
00:22:55,625 --> 00:22:56,605
government previously.

629
00:22:57,384 --> 00:22:59,304
And there is potential that there's been a

630
00:22:59,304 --> 00:23:00,125
deal done

631
00:23:00,664 --> 00:23:02,525
by Israel to allow this

632
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,910
on the to allow basically HTS to have

633
00:23:05,910 --> 00:23:07,529
access to their resources

634
00:23:07,910 --> 00:23:10,789
in the Northeast in in order to turn

635
00:23:10,789 --> 00:23:13,910
a blind eye to Israel being in the

636
00:23:13,910 --> 00:23:14,410
South

637
00:23:14,869 --> 00:23:15,529
and extending

638
00:23:15,990 --> 00:23:19,505
their reach beyond the occupied the illegally occupied,

639
00:23:20,204 --> 00:23:20,704
Golan

640
00:23:21,404 --> 00:23:21,904
territories.

641
00:23:22,845 --> 00:23:23,345
Now

642
00:23:24,605 --> 00:23:27,005
coming back to to Russia, I mean, I

643
00:23:27,005 --> 00:23:29,644
think we talked about this, what actually happened

644
00:23:29,644 --> 00:23:30,625
during the battles,

645
00:23:31,244 --> 00:23:33,184
and it became very clear

646
00:23:33,884 --> 00:23:34,045
that

647
00:23:35,059 --> 00:23:37,619
and it's becoming even clearer now, I have

648
00:23:37,619 --> 00:23:40,440
to say, that a deal was done between

649
00:23:40,500 --> 00:23:41,559
The United States

650
00:23:41,859 --> 00:23:44,980
and Russia over Ukraine. I mean, that's pretty

651
00:23:44,980 --> 00:23:47,720
much what we've seen since Trump was inaugurated

652
00:23:47,940 --> 00:23:50,839
as we've seen these discussions overseas fire.

653
00:23:51,194 --> 00:23:54,474
We've seen Zelensky going through the theater of

654
00:23:54,474 --> 00:23:56,255
of getting, you know, slapped,

655
00:23:57,115 --> 00:23:57,615
basically,

656
00:23:58,875 --> 00:24:00,734
and now coming into

657
00:24:01,115 --> 00:24:02,335
line. Right?

658
00:24:03,970 --> 00:24:05,590
And it's very clear

659
00:24:06,210 --> 00:24:07,029
that a deal,

660
00:24:07,970 --> 00:24:10,450
was at least in the making before Trump

661
00:24:10,450 --> 00:24:12,556
was inaugurated, and then, of course, it it

662
00:24:12,556 --> 00:24:14,230
it all started processing.

663
00:24:14,930 --> 00:24:15,430
Right?

664
00:24:15,730 --> 00:24:16,470
And so,

665
00:24:18,215 --> 00:24:20,375
in in my opinion and and it was

666
00:24:20,375 --> 00:24:22,695
kind of interesting. I was talking to someone

667
00:24:22,695 --> 00:24:23,195
here,

668
00:24:25,494 --> 00:24:26,715
who has studied

669
00:24:27,095 --> 00:24:29,734
the relationship of Russia with The Middle East

670
00:24:29,734 --> 00:24:30,715
for some time.

671
00:24:31,109 --> 00:24:33,190
And as he said, look, you know, we

672
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:35,269
have to understand that Russia's red line is

673
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:36,170
actually Israel.

674
00:24:36,630 --> 00:24:38,549
It's not gonna do anything that's going to

675
00:24:38,549 --> 00:24:41,029
threaten the stability and security of Israel in

676
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:41,690
the region.

677
00:24:42,390 --> 00:24:44,890
And how Russia perceives

678
00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:45,769
partnerships,

679
00:24:46,214 --> 00:24:48,154
Putin looks for strong partnerships.

680
00:24:48,855 --> 00:24:49,755
So for example,

681
00:24:50,294 --> 00:24:53,434
it's currently partnering, for example, with Iran

682
00:24:53,815 --> 00:24:55,974
because it sees Iran as a country that

683
00:24:55,974 --> 00:24:56,474
is,

684
00:24:57,335 --> 00:24:58,714
a sovereign country.

685
00:24:59,140 --> 00:24:59,880
It has

686
00:25:00,259 --> 00:25:02,279
managed to develop

687
00:25:02,819 --> 00:25:05,859
and grow despite the sanctions that have been

688
00:25:05,859 --> 00:25:07,480
imposed against it for decades.

689
00:25:08,579 --> 00:25:10,119
Its borders are secure.

690
00:25:10,660 --> 00:25:12,980
It's a sovereign nation. It's a strong sovereign

691
00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:16,294
nation. Right? The same with Turkey. Turkey, at

692
00:25:16,294 --> 00:25:19,095
Bagley, is is a new Ottoman empire. It

693
00:25:19,095 --> 00:25:20,554
was previously an

694
00:25:20,934 --> 00:25:22,394
empire, but it's a strong,

695
00:25:23,335 --> 00:25:24,554
it's a strong nation.

696
00:25:25,095 --> 00:25:27,894
How Putin views the Middle East is very

697
00:25:27,894 --> 00:25:30,589
much as this hot potch of countries,

698
00:25:31,470 --> 00:25:32,529
never been stable,

699
00:25:33,470 --> 00:25:33,970
never,

700
00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:37,089
really managed to maintain its sovereignty,

701
00:25:37,549 --> 00:25:39,630
except for Yemen. Apparently, he has a lot

702
00:25:39,630 --> 00:25:42,109
of admiration for Yemen because of what they've

703
00:25:42,109 --> 00:25:42,609
achieved

704
00:25:43,214 --> 00:25:44,434
since 2015

705
00:25:44,494 --> 00:25:46,355
and under sanctions and under,

706
00:25:46,974 --> 00:25:47,474
war.

707
00:25:47,855 --> 00:25:50,575
They've still managed to maintain their sovereignty, and

708
00:25:50,575 --> 00:25:53,134
they managed to do certainly most damage, in

709
00:25:53,134 --> 00:25:54,355
my opinion, economically.

710
00:25:54,894 --> 00:25:55,394
Right.

711
00:25:57,309 --> 00:26:00,210
Israel began the the genocide against Palestine,

712
00:26:01,230 --> 00:26:02,609
back in October,

713
00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:05,250
seventh twenty twenty three. Right?

714
00:26:06,349 --> 00:26:08,190
And so I think there was a there

715
00:26:08,190 --> 00:26:10,450
was a a mixture of things.

716
00:26:10,994 --> 00:26:12,434
I think, first of all,

717
00:26:12,994 --> 00:26:15,815
president Assad was simply not complying.

718
00:26:17,075 --> 00:26:17,894
He wasn't,

719
00:26:18,674 --> 00:26:19,174
negotiating

720
00:26:19,634 --> 00:26:20,615
with Erdogan,

721
00:26:21,394 --> 00:26:23,875
which Russia does, you know, see or did

722
00:26:23,875 --> 00:26:25,990
see very much as an ally in the

723
00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:27,130
region. Right?

724
00:26:28,390 --> 00:26:31,369
And they wanted Assad to negotiate with Erdogan,

725
00:26:31,429 --> 00:26:33,049
at least to come to the table,

726
00:26:33,509 --> 00:26:34,409
which Assad

727
00:26:34,869 --> 00:26:35,369
refused.

728
00:26:36,309 --> 00:26:38,890
I think Russia had been pushing,

729
00:26:40,704 --> 00:26:42,404
Assad more towards,

730
00:26:43,585 --> 00:26:46,404
The Gulf States, The UAE, Saudi Arabia,

731
00:26:48,464 --> 00:26:50,005
and developing that relationship

732
00:26:50,544 --> 00:26:53,044
over and above the relationship with the resistance,

733
00:26:53,105 --> 00:26:55,410
in other words, with Iran and

734
00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:58,109
even Hezbollah. And there is evidence that Iran

735
00:26:58,109 --> 00:27:00,849
and Hezbollah were were also aware of that.

736
00:27:02,910 --> 00:27:05,070
And then, of course, there was the cost

737
00:27:05,070 --> 00:27:05,809
of remaining

738
00:27:06,349 --> 00:27:06,849
involved

739
00:27:07,484 --> 00:27:10,204
inside Syria. We also know that a deal

740
00:27:10,204 --> 00:27:11,345
was done in Doha,

741
00:27:12,525 --> 00:27:15,484
that Assad would step down after a six

742
00:27:15,484 --> 00:27:15,964
month,

743
00:27:16,365 --> 00:27:18,704
interim period during which a coalition

744
00:27:19,164 --> 00:27:20,704
government would be formed.

745
00:27:21,190 --> 00:27:21,690
Right?

746
00:27:22,630 --> 00:27:24,390
And we also know that there was an

747
00:27:24,390 --> 00:27:26,490
intelligence meeting. I think it was about,

748
00:27:28,070 --> 00:27:30,090
two months before the the attacks.

749
00:27:31,109 --> 00:27:33,049
And we know that that intelligence,

750
00:27:34,205 --> 00:27:37,424
from meetings of Syrian military command,

751
00:27:39,005 --> 00:27:40,305
Russia, and Iran

752
00:27:40,924 --> 00:27:43,184
somehow didn't filter down to the president.

753
00:27:43,724 --> 00:27:44,625
Right? So

754
00:27:45,085 --> 00:27:47,005
there's a lot of stuff that was was

755
00:27:47,005 --> 00:27:47,825
going on,

756
00:27:48,589 --> 00:27:50,690
which intimated that there were

757
00:27:51,309 --> 00:27:52,529
plans in the pipeline

758
00:27:53,150 --> 00:27:53,890
to basically

759
00:27:55,150 --> 00:27:57,890
maybe Russia had the intention to leave Syria

760
00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:59,009
in safe hands.

761
00:27:59,549 --> 00:28:01,490
Mhmm. But in the end, what happened,

762
00:28:02,384 --> 00:28:02,884
apparently,

763
00:28:04,305 --> 00:28:04,965
is that

764
00:28:05,585 --> 00:28:08,465
as the Syrian army was withdrawing from Aleppo

765
00:28:08,465 --> 00:28:11,265
and was starting to regroup and fight back

766
00:28:11,265 --> 00:28:12,244
against HTS,

767
00:28:13,105 --> 00:28:14,005
around 15

768
00:28:14,305 --> 00:28:15,765
of the command were

769
00:28:16,490 --> 00:28:18,570
removed from the battlefield by the chief of

770
00:28:18,570 --> 00:28:21,049
staff, who was obviously part of of the

771
00:28:21,049 --> 00:28:21,549
betrayal

772
00:28:22,090 --> 00:28:23,470
Mhmm. And imprisoned.

773
00:28:24,250 --> 00:28:25,710
And the army was withdrawn,

774
00:28:26,809 --> 00:28:27,470
back to,

775
00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:29,070
much further south

776
00:28:29,455 --> 00:28:31,475
and then started to collapse because

777
00:28:31,855 --> 00:28:34,335
brigades within the army were being told to

778
00:28:34,335 --> 00:28:34,835
surrender.

779
00:28:35,455 --> 00:28:36,914
Others were keeping fighting

780
00:28:37,455 --> 00:28:39,855
and then realizing that they were fighting alone

781
00:28:39,855 --> 00:28:42,255
because their comrades next to them had had

782
00:28:42,255 --> 00:28:44,289
surrendered and laid down their arms, and so

783
00:28:44,289 --> 00:28:46,930
they were suddenly surrounded. Right? I'm I'm kind

784
00:28:46,930 --> 00:28:47,589
of oversimplifying

785
00:28:48,049 --> 00:28:49,029
it. Yeah.

786
00:28:49,410 --> 00:28:50,070
And then,

787
00:28:51,170 --> 00:28:52,869
it was basically a Russian,

788
00:28:54,529 --> 00:28:55,430
backed commander,

789
00:28:56,210 --> 00:28:58,470
Suhaiil Hassan, who took over the battlefield.

790
00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:01,295
And at that point, it started to collapse.

791
00:29:01,595 --> 00:29:03,375
Russia was no longer bombing.

792
00:29:03,674 --> 00:29:06,154
It hadn't really been bombing the convoys, which

793
00:29:06,154 --> 00:29:08,974
is insane because convoys coming from

794
00:29:09,275 --> 00:29:12,575
Aleppo to this particular area, there's no coverage.

795
00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:15,910
It it's flat open plain land. Right?

796
00:29:16,769 --> 00:29:18,850
So Russian air force could have bombed the

797
00:29:18,850 --> 00:29:21,830
entire convoy and prevented its advance. They didn't.

798
00:29:22,690 --> 00:29:24,850
I mean, it reminds me of ISIS coming

799
00:29:24,850 --> 00:29:27,090
from Iraq to Syria back in, when was

800
00:29:27,090 --> 00:29:27,490
it,

801
00:29:28,855 --> 00:29:29,674
2013

802
00:29:29,974 --> 00:29:32,855
and traveling 500 kilometers, and America didn't do

803
00:29:32,855 --> 00:29:35,494
anything to prevent it. Right. I mean, it's

804
00:29:35,494 --> 00:29:37,174
hard not to see this as I mean,

805
00:29:37,174 --> 00:29:38,154
it's very rude,

806
00:29:38,534 --> 00:29:41,494
you know, making taking it's opportunism. Like, whether

807
00:29:41,494 --> 00:29:42,694
or not it was an attempt to do

808
00:29:42,694 --> 00:29:43,974
the right thing or whatever, we would see

809
00:29:43,974 --> 00:29:45,789
that as it's clear like, I guess where

810
00:29:45,789 --> 00:29:47,630
my mind goes is that look. It's it's

811
00:29:47,630 --> 00:29:50,509
objectively clear this this government is committing a

812
00:29:50,509 --> 00:29:52,049
mass genocide, multinational

813
00:29:52,430 --> 00:29:54,750
national genocide. How can you, even if it's

814
00:29:54,750 --> 00:29:56,509
in your benefit as a nation, support or

815
00:29:56,509 --> 00:29:58,190
align yourself with that? I just think, you

816
00:29:58,190 --> 00:30:00,394
know, this has to represent what the, you

817
00:30:00,394 --> 00:30:02,634
know, moral ambiguity of government today. And I

818
00:30:02,634 --> 00:30:04,234
think that's a problem for me, maybe if

819
00:30:04,234 --> 00:30:05,755
not for everybody else. Yeah. But what I

820
00:30:05,755 --> 00:30:07,274
would like to get into in all of

821
00:30:07,274 --> 00:30:09,994
that is to what degree I mean, even

822
00:30:09,994 --> 00:30:11,755
what you just described kinda really does even

823
00:30:11,755 --> 00:30:13,515
suggest again that it was, like, maybe Israel

824
00:30:13,515 --> 00:30:15,054
did take advantage of the situation.

825
00:30:15,509 --> 00:30:16,570
Or, alternatively,

826
00:30:17,109 --> 00:30:18,309
as I think a lot of people have

827
00:30:18,309 --> 00:30:19,750
been arguing for a while, that all of

828
00:30:19,750 --> 00:30:21,430
this really was for Israel, at least from

829
00:30:21,430 --> 00:30:23,349
The United States' perspective, like, fighting their wars

830
00:30:23,349 --> 00:30:25,990
for their outcome. So from your research and

831
00:30:25,990 --> 00:30:27,589
what you can see now or even give

832
00:30:27,589 --> 00:30:29,109
us, like, from then until now and then

833
00:30:29,109 --> 00:30:31,174
what you see today, how much is Israel

834
00:30:31,315 --> 00:30:33,315
on the ground? Because our reporting has seen

835
00:30:33,315 --> 00:30:34,375
bases being built,

836
00:30:35,234 --> 00:30:36,294
deployment of troops,

837
00:30:36,755 --> 00:30:39,394
even discussions of new settlements for for settlers

838
00:30:39,394 --> 00:30:42,115
in Syria. So what's the what's the reality

839
00:30:42,115 --> 00:30:43,315
of that on the ground, and to what

840
00:30:43,315 --> 00:30:45,799
degree is Israel occupied and, and, like, taking

841
00:30:45,799 --> 00:30:47,259
over Syria right now?

842
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,319
Yeah. To a large degree. I mean, they

843
00:30:51,319 --> 00:30:52,460
don't have the manpower,

844
00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:53,980
it has to be sad,

845
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,359
to fully settle on Syrian territory, and and

846
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:01,304
that's why they're looking for proxy settlement through

847
00:31:01,304 --> 00:31:02,044
the Druze,

848
00:31:02,904 --> 00:31:03,884
through the Kurds.

849
00:31:04,984 --> 00:31:08,524
But there is a a sizable military occupation

850
00:31:09,065 --> 00:31:11,944
inside Syria. Yes. And, of course, if you

851
00:31:11,944 --> 00:31:13,724
look at it combined with Lebanon,

852
00:31:14,410 --> 00:31:17,130
they immediately took control of Mount Hermon, which

853
00:31:17,130 --> 00:31:19,289
is close to the Lebanese Syrian border. It's

854
00:31:19,289 --> 00:31:21,549
the highest point from which you can basically

855
00:31:21,609 --> 00:31:22,109
surveil

856
00:31:22,410 --> 00:31:24,990
pretty much all of Southern Lebanon and Southern,

857
00:31:25,769 --> 00:31:28,269
Syria Right. Across to Damascus. Right?

858
00:31:28,625 --> 00:31:31,184
And in Southern Syria. Sorry. Forgot the gap.

859
00:31:31,184 --> 00:31:32,644
We got the delay. Go ahead.

860
00:31:33,904 --> 00:31:34,404
I

861
00:31:36,305 --> 00:31:38,805
think we're not doing too bad considering how

862
00:31:39,105 --> 00:31:41,285
it's sort of, up and down it is.

863
00:31:42,710 --> 00:31:45,609
And in Southern Lebanon, also, what they've done,

864
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:49,109
despite, of course, the ceasefire conditions that they

865
00:31:49,109 --> 00:31:51,769
should withdraw entirely from Southern Lebanon.

866
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:54,570
They've maintained positions

867
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:55,849
on five,

868
00:31:56,765 --> 00:31:59,345
of the highest points in Southern Lebanon,

869
00:32:00,444 --> 00:32:03,804
which again gives them a vantage point, from

870
00:32:03,804 --> 00:32:04,845
which they can,

871
00:32:05,325 --> 00:32:06,944
carry out surveillance operations

872
00:32:07,724 --> 00:32:10,144
against civilians in Southern Lebanon.

873
00:32:11,180 --> 00:32:13,440
And and so that's part of their,

874
00:32:13,980 --> 00:32:14,480
strategy

875
00:32:14,859 --> 00:32:16,319
also to maintain

876
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:17,200
surveillance

877
00:32:17,500 --> 00:32:18,720
on any resistance

878
00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:22,000
activity against their illegal occupation

879
00:32:22,299 --> 00:32:24,160
of Lebanese and Syrian territory.

880
00:32:26,414 --> 00:32:28,595
And basically what they've been doing

881
00:32:29,054 --> 00:32:29,875
is establishing

882
00:32:30,255 --> 00:32:31,875
settlements in southern,

883
00:32:32,414 --> 00:32:35,134
Syria. They've been digging in those images and

884
00:32:35,134 --> 00:32:38,174
videos being released fairly recently of them sort

885
00:32:38,174 --> 00:32:39,634
of digging in fortifications

886
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:43,210
and so on. They've been moving in heavy

887
00:32:43,349 --> 00:32:43,849
machinery,

888
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:46,169
and they are gradually

889
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:47,049
moving

890
00:32:47,509 --> 00:32:48,569
closer and closer,

891
00:32:49,589 --> 00:32:51,130
to Damascus. Yes.

892
00:32:51,589 --> 00:32:53,750
Now ultimately, as I said, no. They're not

893
00:32:53,750 --> 00:32:54,569
gonna have,

894
00:32:55,235 --> 00:32:57,634
the the manpower themselves to be able to

895
00:32:57,634 --> 00:33:01,235
settle quickly into these territories. So that's very

896
00:33:01,235 --> 00:33:02,535
much why they're courting,

897
00:33:03,555 --> 00:33:06,835
the the potential of proxy settlement in these

898
00:33:06,835 --> 00:33:07,335
areas.

899
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,400
In in regard to actual do you have

900
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:13,240
any insight onto I mean, I've seen the

901
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,320
conversations, but I I know some of these,

902
00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:16,599
what's her name now?

903
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,480
I'm forgetting her name. It's very prominent at

904
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,000
this point. She I I even think she

905
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,660
just got

906
00:33:22,195 --> 00:33:24,115
nominated for Nobel Peace Prize, which makes me

907
00:33:24,115 --> 00:33:26,195
sick. The leader of the settled radical settlement

908
00:33:26,195 --> 00:33:29,075
that that are proudly discussing the stealing of

909
00:33:29,075 --> 00:33:31,555
property in Lebanon, in in Gaza, you know,

910
00:33:31,555 --> 00:33:34,115
everywhere. I've seen them publicly discussing. My point

911
00:33:34,115 --> 00:33:35,555
is that doesn't necessarily mean Oh,

912
00:33:36,355 --> 00:33:37,409
Are you gonna see or do you see

913
00:33:37,409 --> 00:33:39,490
any evidence of those kind of settlements being

914
00:33:39,490 --> 00:33:41,750
proposed for, you know, the settler movement?

915
00:33:43,970 --> 00:33:46,950
Yeah. What in in Southern Syria, you mean?

916
00:33:47,569 --> 00:33:49,809
Yeah. Specifically in Syria, anywhere. Because we've already

917
00:33:49,809 --> 00:33:51,409
seen it pop up every other location that

918
00:33:51,409 --> 00:33:52,944
they're trying to push into.

919
00:33:54,684 --> 00:33:56,845
Yeah. I mean, for sure, this will be

920
00:33:56,845 --> 00:33:57,345
ultimately,

921
00:33:58,525 --> 00:33:59,265
the plan.

922
00:33:59,644 --> 00:34:02,045
We haven't as far as I know, we've

923
00:34:02,045 --> 00:34:04,525
not seen anything yet. There aren't actual any

924
00:34:04,525 --> 00:34:08,239
secular movements moving into Southern Syria. No. Not

925
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,179
yet. I think partly because,

926
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,760
I think that would be a step too

927
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:14,260
far,

928
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,160
for Syrians in in in the South even

929
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,800
in Dara and Swadda because although there are

930
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:21,780
Jewish factions

931
00:34:24,265 --> 00:34:25,885
that, let's say, are,

932
00:34:27,224 --> 00:34:27,724
certainly,

933
00:34:28,184 --> 00:34:30,525
you know, would would not be against

934
00:34:31,304 --> 00:34:32,285
Israeli occupation,

935
00:34:33,465 --> 00:34:34,364
they're a minority.

936
00:34:35,849 --> 00:34:36,589
And the majority

937
00:34:36,969 --> 00:34:39,309
of the Druze, as far as I'm aware,

938
00:34:39,769 --> 00:34:40,269
traditionally

939
00:34:40,730 --> 00:34:42,429
always believed in

940
00:34:42,889 --> 00:34:43,549
the integrity

941
00:34:43,849 --> 00:34:44,589
of Syrian

942
00:34:44,969 --> 00:34:45,469
territory

943
00:34:46,170 --> 00:34:47,309
and would oppose,

944
00:34:48,009 --> 00:34:49,069
Israeli occupation.

945
00:34:50,034 --> 00:34:52,054
We've seen that. What is what

946
00:34:52,514 --> 00:34:54,514
what is now, of course, the situation that

947
00:34:54,514 --> 00:34:56,295
is now being orchestrated

948
00:34:57,474 --> 00:34:58,215
is that

949
00:34:58,994 --> 00:35:00,934
anything is better than HTS.

950
00:35:01,394 --> 00:35:01,894
Right?

951
00:35:02,195 --> 00:35:04,434
And and and this is exactly what their

952
00:35:04,434 --> 00:35:05,175
what their

953
00:35:05,780 --> 00:35:08,260
engineering and they're orchestrating. And when The US

954
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:10,420
starts to make statements that, you know, they're

955
00:35:10,420 --> 00:35:14,099
condemning the atrocities against ethnic minorities inside Syria,

956
00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:16,019
of course, they're not any more than they

957
00:35:16,019 --> 00:35:16,519
condemn,

958
00:35:17,539 --> 00:35:19,239
Israeli genocide in Palestine.

959
00:35:19,835 --> 00:35:21,755
And what are they doing? They're asking h

960
00:35:21,755 --> 00:35:24,574
two s HTS to investigate their own crimes,

961
00:35:24,634 --> 00:35:27,434
their own atrocities, their own ethnic cleansing exactly

962
00:35:27,434 --> 00:35:28,894
as they do with the Zionist.

963
00:35:29,514 --> 00:35:31,755
You know? Oh, well, we'll ask Israel to

964
00:35:31,755 --> 00:35:32,255
investigate,

965
00:35:32,625 --> 00:35:36,119
you know, its slaughter of 300 civilians in

966
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:38,599
one bombing raid. You know, this is this

967
00:35:38,599 --> 00:35:40,619
is what The US does. It's just

968
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,300
a a kind of a legally

969
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,599
fig leaf to cover up the fact that

970
00:35:44,599 --> 00:35:46,380
they are absolutely quite okay

971
00:35:46,875 --> 00:35:48,715
with all of this going on. Because what

972
00:35:48,715 --> 00:35:50,094
does it mean? It means

973
00:35:50,474 --> 00:35:53,514
and, I mean, I was in Northern Lebanon

974
00:35:53,514 --> 00:35:55,755
today. We can talk about that, but I

975
00:35:55,755 --> 00:35:56,894
actually went there,

976
00:35:57,675 --> 00:35:59,215
to meet with Syrians

977
00:35:59,969 --> 00:36:01,190
that are fleeing,

978
00:36:02,050 --> 00:36:05,429
the ethnic cleansing programs, the atrocities, the massacres,

979
00:36:05,489 --> 00:36:07,650
the slaughters that are going on in the

980
00:36:07,650 --> 00:36:08,630
coastal region,

981
00:36:09,170 --> 00:36:12,469
down as far as homes. And to now,

982
00:36:12,530 --> 00:36:15,644
there's almost 8,000 people. 8,000

983
00:36:15,704 --> 00:36:18,425
have come from Syria into Lebanon, and they're

984
00:36:18,425 --> 00:36:18,925
crossing

985
00:36:19,385 --> 00:36:22,105
not by a border crossing. They're crossing by

986
00:36:22,105 --> 00:36:25,325
smuggling routes. They're having to cross rivers.

987
00:36:26,265 --> 00:36:28,985
They're being they told us today they're being

988
00:36:28,985 --> 00:36:29,485
hunted

989
00:36:30,019 --> 00:36:30,679
by HTF

990
00:36:31,139 --> 00:36:31,639
drones.

991
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:35,079
So they're literally having to move through forests.

992
00:36:35,539 --> 00:36:38,019
They're getting targeted by drones. There was one

993
00:36:38,019 --> 00:36:40,019
guy who said to us, you know, I

994
00:36:40,019 --> 00:36:42,099
spent five days in the river because it

995
00:36:42,099 --> 00:36:44,195
wasn't safe for him to cross,

996
00:36:44,494 --> 00:36:45,875
and he was keeping himself,

997
00:36:46,974 --> 00:36:47,875
under the water

998
00:36:48,175 --> 00:36:50,994
as cold as possible because the drones detect,

999
00:36:51,775 --> 00:36:52,914
heat, body heat.

1000
00:36:54,175 --> 00:36:56,035
And so they're not only

1001
00:36:56,335 --> 00:36:59,250
getting slaughtered in their homes, getting executed,

1002
00:36:59,789 --> 00:37:01,250
getting, you know, tortured, abused,

1003
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:04,130
dismembered.

1004
00:37:04,989 --> 00:37:08,369
When they actually flee, they're they're still being

1005
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:09,410
hunted down.

1006
00:37:10,190 --> 00:37:10,690
And,

1007
00:37:11,534 --> 00:37:13,714
you know, I I can't we

1008
00:37:16,894 --> 00:37:18,114
thousand miles there

1009
00:37:18,815 --> 00:37:19,315
in

1010
00:37:20,255 --> 00:37:22,914
Gaza when prisoners returned to Zionist prisons.

1011
00:37:24,260 --> 00:37:26,739
That was something very similar that I saw

1012
00:37:26,739 --> 00:37:27,219
today,

1013
00:37:27,539 --> 00:37:30,119
in entire families, children, mothers,

1014
00:37:31,460 --> 00:37:34,039
men from the family, young men,

1015
00:37:35,380 --> 00:37:35,880
who

1016
00:37:36,820 --> 00:37:37,559
were just

1017
00:37:38,385 --> 00:37:39,284
totally traumatized

1018
00:37:39,744 --> 00:37:41,605
by what they'd had to witness

1019
00:37:41,905 --> 00:37:44,405
in Syria. Extraordinary. I mean, just

1020
00:37:44,704 --> 00:37:46,545
awful. I mean, we're looking at a a

1021
00:37:46,545 --> 00:37:49,585
second macro, in my opinion. Right. The the

1022
00:37:49,585 --> 00:37:50,965
numbers of dead

1023
00:37:51,570 --> 00:37:52,630
now in Syria

1024
00:37:53,489 --> 00:37:56,230
are anything between 8,000 to 12,000,

1025
00:37:56,289 --> 00:37:59,910
and and we don't know because entire villages

1026
00:37:59,969 --> 00:38:00,789
are being slaughtered

1027
00:38:01,090 --> 00:38:04,210
in silence. There's no Internet. There's no food.

1028
00:38:04,210 --> 00:38:06,550
There's no water. Water's actually being poisoned

1029
00:38:07,355 --> 00:38:09,855
according to reports today. Bread has

1030
00:38:10,394 --> 00:38:11,054
been poisoned.

1031
00:38:12,795 --> 00:38:15,034
They've had Internet cut off. They've had their

1032
00:38:15,034 --> 00:38:17,295
phones taken away. So we've got no communication

1033
00:38:18,074 --> 00:38:21,054
from many of these outlying villages and towns.

1034
00:38:21,639 --> 00:38:24,539
Today, I was told, basically, they're being completely

1035
00:38:25,159 --> 00:38:25,659
slaughtered.

1036
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,480
So we don't know what the numbers are,

1037
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,659
but they're certainly in the high thousands.

1038
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:33,880
Yeah. I saw Kavork, and I think you

1039
00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:35,800
as well. And he estimated about this might

1040
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,934
be somewhere around 10% of what's happening on

1041
00:38:37,934 --> 00:38:39,855
the ground. You know, the information we're actually

1042
00:38:39,855 --> 00:38:42,335
seeing come through on the Internet. Now, what's

1043
00:38:42,335 --> 00:38:44,035
important to point out is

1044
00:38:44,815 --> 00:38:46,675
you can draw it's a very clear,

1045
00:38:48,015 --> 00:38:48,515
correlation

1046
00:38:48,894 --> 00:38:51,760
between what you're seeing, which is not surprising,

1047
00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,219
The US Israeli Extremists doing to people in

1048
00:38:54,219 --> 00:38:56,699
Lebanon, The US Israeli backed extremists doing to

1049
00:38:56,699 --> 00:38:58,859
people in, you know, any location you wanna

1050
00:38:58,859 --> 00:39:01,420
point out, Ukraine, for example. Right? It's the

1051
00:39:01,420 --> 00:39:03,739
same atrocities in the same manner with the

1052
00:39:03,739 --> 00:39:05,485
same kind of gleeful sociopathic

1053
00:39:05,785 --> 00:39:07,945
action. Like, it's this weird you know, it's

1054
00:39:07,945 --> 00:39:09,864
just it's everywhere, not even the poisoning aspect.

1055
00:39:09,864 --> 00:39:11,704
Like, I'm I'm not it's obvious to see

1056
00:39:11,704 --> 00:39:13,545
that there's a reason whether these people are

1057
00:39:13,545 --> 00:39:15,545
acting for some some Zionist mindset or not

1058
00:39:15,545 --> 00:39:16,985
that this stuff is being allowed in clear

1059
00:39:16,985 --> 00:39:18,780
ways for the same kind of agendas. I

1060
00:39:18,940 --> 00:39:20,300
want to point this out seeing so this

1061
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:21,980
is a similar thing we continue to see

1062
00:39:21,980 --> 00:39:24,380
that also was happening in Gaza even and

1063
00:39:24,380 --> 00:39:25,579
it goes all the way back to these

1064
00:39:25,579 --> 00:39:28,059
origin conversations that in the case of specifically

1065
00:39:28,059 --> 00:39:30,300
the Zionist organization, calling it some kind of

1066
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:31,900
a blood libel point. Just to make it

1067
00:39:31,900 --> 00:39:33,980
clear, this is from Herets. This was written

1068
00:39:33,980 --> 00:39:34,480
on

1069
00:39:34,994 --> 00:39:36,114
in 2022.

1070
00:39:36,114 --> 00:39:38,375
And what it is is the actual documentation

1071
00:39:38,674 --> 00:39:40,994
going back to the 1948 Nakhwans saying this

1072
00:39:40,994 --> 00:39:43,394
is evidence of the Zionist entity poisoning the

1073
00:39:43,394 --> 00:39:44,934
wells of the people in these locations,

1074
00:39:45,315 --> 00:39:46,914
which which has become some kind of blood

1075
00:39:46,914 --> 00:39:48,674
libel claim that their Jews are poisoning the

1076
00:39:48,674 --> 00:39:50,170
wells. No. We're talking about Zionists, to be

1077
00:39:50,170 --> 00:39:52,010
clear, and this is a provable fact. And

1078
00:39:52,010 --> 00:39:53,530
it's happened more than once, and it happened

1079
00:39:53,530 --> 00:39:55,449
again recently in the context of Gaza. And

1080
00:39:55,449 --> 00:39:56,809
so I just it's interesting to see these

1081
00:39:56,809 --> 00:39:58,890
correlations, and I think that's important to point

1082
00:39:58,890 --> 00:40:01,050
out. But in in regard to what's actually

1083
00:40:01,050 --> 00:40:02,110
happening on the ground.

1084
00:40:02,594 --> 00:40:04,514
So you let let's go I wanna hear

1085
00:40:04,514 --> 00:40:06,034
about what what they were saying to you

1086
00:40:06,034 --> 00:40:07,954
in Lebanon from what they saw, and let's

1087
00:40:07,954 --> 00:40:09,394
get into all of it in regard to,

1088
00:40:09,394 --> 00:40:10,755
you know, what we can see on the

1089
00:40:10,755 --> 00:40:13,234
videos, the the the ethnic cleansing. But, also,

1090
00:40:13,234 --> 00:40:15,869
you had mentioned some overlapping points about human

1091
00:40:15,869 --> 00:40:18,349
trafficking, organ trafficking. Like, the really dark side

1092
00:40:18,349 --> 00:40:19,710
of this, which you and I have talked

1093
00:40:19,710 --> 00:40:21,710
about in the past seem to be pretty

1094
00:40:21,710 --> 00:40:23,309
common in a lot of these foreign policy

1095
00:40:23,309 --> 00:40:23,809
wars.

1096
00:40:24,909 --> 00:40:26,509
But in particular with this, you know, I'll

1097
00:40:26,509 --> 00:40:27,630
I'll let you get into it. So what

1098
00:40:27,630 --> 00:40:28,944
what is going on on the ground? We

1099
00:40:28,944 --> 00:40:30,304
went over a lot of these harsh videos

1100
00:40:30,304 --> 00:40:32,224
yesterday. We talked about the mass slaughter of

1101
00:40:32,224 --> 00:40:33,824
innocent people. You know? So break it all

1102
00:40:33,824 --> 00:40:35,525
down for us. Like, what's actually happening?

1103
00:40:37,664 --> 00:40:39,025
Yeah. I mean, you know,

1104
00:40:39,344 --> 00:40:41,284
as you said, the videos are circulating

1105
00:40:41,824 --> 00:40:42,324
online.

1106
00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:44,110
Of course,

1107
00:40:44,410 --> 00:40:46,809
what is western media portraying it as? They're

1108
00:40:46,809 --> 00:40:48,030
portraying it as,

1109
00:40:49,210 --> 00:40:49,710
regime

1110
00:40:50,170 --> 00:40:50,670
remnant,

1111
00:40:51,690 --> 00:40:52,190
insurgents

1112
00:40:53,130 --> 00:40:53,869
that is,

1113
00:40:54,650 --> 00:40:55,150
basically,

1114
00:40:56,809 --> 00:40:59,644
leading to the massacre of civilians. But, of

1115
00:40:59,644 --> 00:41:01,264
course, this is absolute nonsense.

1116
00:41:01,804 --> 00:41:04,625
Any resistance operations came in response

1117
00:41:05,405 --> 00:41:08,385
to the the killing and the ethnic cleansing

1118
00:41:08,525 --> 00:41:11,210
that had been ongoing since the December 9,

1119
00:41:11,210 --> 00:41:13,769
it didn't just begin four days ago. And,

1120
00:41:13,769 --> 00:41:15,150
of course, it had been ongoing

1121
00:41:15,690 --> 00:41:17,230
since 02/2011

1122
00:41:17,690 --> 00:41:19,389
by the the HTS,

1123
00:41:20,489 --> 00:41:23,449
various rebrands and their affiliates. Right? If you

1124
00:41:23,449 --> 00:41:24,989
go back to 2013

1125
00:41:25,355 --> 00:41:26,174
in Latakia

1126
00:41:26,474 --> 00:41:27,295
on the coastal

1127
00:41:27,594 --> 00:41:29,614
areas in an area called Baluta,

1128
00:41:30,154 --> 00:41:32,174
Two Hundred civilians were massacred,

1129
00:41:33,594 --> 00:41:36,315
by the Free Syrian Army, Nusra Front and

1130
00:41:36,315 --> 00:41:39,454
Aral Shams, so a combination of three groups,

1131
00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:42,779
that, of course, then are are now being

1132
00:41:42,779 --> 00:41:44,559
absorbed into Jelani's

1133
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:46,079
new Syrian army.

1134
00:41:48,380 --> 00:41:50,779
And those civilians were massacred very much for

1135
00:41:50,779 --> 00:41:53,019
the same reasons. They were Shia Muslim or

1136
00:41:53,019 --> 00:41:54,480
they were Alawite Muslim,

1137
00:41:55,755 --> 00:41:57,295
and they didn't comply

1138
00:41:57,674 --> 00:42:01,514
with the fanatic Taqfiri ideology. So that was

1139
00:42:01,514 --> 00:42:03,135
back in 02/2013.

1140
00:42:04,074 --> 00:42:05,054
And who prevented

1141
00:42:05,355 --> 00:42:06,255
that becoming

1142
00:42:06,954 --> 00:42:08,014
as it is today,

1143
00:42:08,394 --> 00:42:10,014
a wholesale wholesale

1144
00:42:10,860 --> 00:42:13,360
slaughter. And I would call it a genocide

1145
00:42:13,579 --> 00:42:14,960
because it is effectively

1146
00:42:15,340 --> 00:42:16,960
the attempt to exterminate

1147
00:42:17,740 --> 00:42:19,280
an entire minority

1148
00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:20,320
sect,

1149
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:23,440
not only the Alawites, but also the Christians,

1150
00:42:24,515 --> 00:42:27,494
the Sunni Muslims that that do not,

1151
00:42:28,434 --> 00:42:29,735
you know, that protest,

1152
00:42:31,075 --> 00:42:33,255
these massacres of their Alawites

1153
00:42:33,875 --> 00:42:34,375
neighbors

1154
00:42:34,675 --> 00:42:36,454
are also getting slaughtered.

1155
00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:38,454
That's true. There was a,

1156
00:42:38,769 --> 00:42:40,150
yeah, there was a Sunni,

1157
00:42:40,769 --> 00:42:41,269
sheikh

1158
00:42:41,970 --> 00:42:42,710
in Damascus

1159
00:42:43,090 --> 00:42:44,630
who spoke out against,

1160
00:42:45,010 --> 00:42:47,510
the ethnic cleansing. They came to his house.

1161
00:42:48,289 --> 00:42:50,390
They tortured him. They executed

1162
00:42:50,690 --> 00:42:52,470
him in front of his son.

1163
00:42:53,135 --> 00:42:54,734
And this was only two or three days

1164
00:42:54,734 --> 00:42:56,594
ago. The Christian priests

1165
00:42:57,214 --> 00:43:00,014
that are taking allied families into their homes

1166
00:43:00,014 --> 00:43:02,355
to protect them are also coming under attack.

1167
00:43:02,815 --> 00:43:05,155
Right? So, you know, this isn't only,

1168
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:08,800
this isn't some kind of new civil war.

1169
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:09,780
This is a continuation

1170
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,960
of the ethnic cleansing that was begun in

1171
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:13,840
02/2011.

1172
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,159
Yeah. Sure. I just really quickly. I wanna

1173
00:43:16,159 --> 00:43:17,760
just so in that one point about the

1174
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:20,099
soon e aspect, you know, does that

1175
00:43:20,735 --> 00:43:22,255
what that seems to be a common thread

1176
00:43:22,255 --> 00:43:24,015
here about, you know, what does that suggest

1177
00:43:24,015 --> 00:43:25,295
to you that it's not really about the

1178
00:43:25,295 --> 00:43:25,795
ideology?

1179
00:43:26,335 --> 00:43:27,695
For some of them, it seems to be

1180
00:43:27,695 --> 00:43:29,934
clearly, but from the the leadership level, sort

1181
00:43:29,934 --> 00:43:31,695
of like Zionism, Judaism, like a lot of

1182
00:43:31,695 --> 00:43:33,614
these different points. I mentioned Mohammed bin Salman

1183
00:43:33,614 --> 00:43:35,309
in the past alluding to the fact that

1184
00:43:35,309 --> 00:43:37,489
even, like, the ISIS elements that they manipulate,

1185
00:43:37,789 --> 00:43:39,550
some of the leadership doesn't even believe the

1186
00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:41,650
ideology, and that's how they manipulate the underlings.

1187
00:43:41,710 --> 00:43:43,230
Like, in this context, the same with, like,

1188
00:43:43,230 --> 00:43:44,750
Zionism when you see the idea of beating

1189
00:43:44,750 --> 00:43:47,385
up, you know, Jews that protest against Zionism.

1190
00:43:47,385 --> 00:43:48,985
Like, it shows you that's about Zionism, not

1191
00:43:48,985 --> 00:43:50,425
Judaism. Do you see that in that, or

1192
00:43:50,425 --> 00:43:52,125
does that represent something else to you?

1193
00:43:54,184 --> 00:43:56,105
Yeah. It is very similar. I mean, you

1194
00:43:56,105 --> 00:43:57,005
know, Takfirism

1195
00:43:57,465 --> 00:43:58,364
or Wahhabism,

1196
00:43:59,545 --> 00:44:00,284
which is

1197
00:44:00,585 --> 00:44:02,045
a a fanatic branch

1198
00:44:02,344 --> 00:44:03,559
of Islam.

1199
00:44:04,099 --> 00:44:07,300
Actually, it's very far away from Sunni Islam

1200
00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:07,800
generally,

1201
00:44:09,219 --> 00:44:09,719
and

1202
00:44:10,019 --> 00:44:13,300
is not really it it's not acceptable to

1203
00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:13,960
the majority

1204
00:44:14,340 --> 00:44:16,900
of Sunni Muslims, particularly in Syria for the

1205
00:44:16,900 --> 00:44:19,614
last fourteen years. There is a slight shift

1206
00:44:19,614 --> 00:44:21,775
now, which, again, I'll come on to, which

1207
00:44:21,775 --> 00:44:22,275
is,

1208
00:44:22,815 --> 00:44:23,954
extremely saddening

1209
00:44:24,255 --> 00:44:27,134
to hear today from from the testimony that

1210
00:44:27,134 --> 00:44:28,835
I listened to today.

1211
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,320
And so this kind of,

1212
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:33,260
fanatic

1213
00:44:33,559 --> 00:44:36,680
Islam, of course, who who produced it really

1214
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:37,579
were the British.

1215
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,019
The British were behind largely the creation

1216
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:42,539
of Zionism.

1217
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,760
They were also behind the creation of the

1218
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:45,260
Muslim

1219
00:44:45,565 --> 00:44:47,105
Muslim Brotherhood or the,

1220
00:44:48,364 --> 00:44:51,664
groups in Egypt in the late twenties that

1221
00:44:52,445 --> 00:44:54,224
have been weaponized against Syria,

1222
00:44:55,164 --> 00:44:57,885
for for decades going back to Hafez al

1223
00:44:57,885 --> 00:45:00,864
Assad and and even prior to that. Right?

1224
00:45:01,859 --> 00:45:03,719
And so that entire connection

1225
00:45:04,099 --> 00:45:05,159
is is there.

1226
00:45:05,539 --> 00:45:08,039
And, yes, of course, there are very clear,

1227
00:45:08,579 --> 00:45:11,559
parallels. This is basically a tech theory project,

1228
00:45:12,019 --> 00:45:14,420
but, of course, it's it's in tandem with

1229
00:45:14,420 --> 00:45:15,559
the Zionist project.

1230
00:45:15,954 --> 00:45:16,775
Right. Right?

1231
00:45:17,184 --> 00:45:20,135
And and the Muslim brotherhood is being weaponized

1232
00:45:20,275 --> 00:45:21,855
to to serve both,

1233
00:45:22,674 --> 00:45:23,174
agendas.

1234
00:45:23,954 --> 00:45:25,255
And so, therefore,

1235
00:45:25,875 --> 00:45:28,355
it's it's because it's so far removed from

1236
00:45:28,355 --> 00:45:30,295
what Sunni Islam should be.

1237
00:45:30,869 --> 00:45:31,369
Right?

1238
00:45:32,549 --> 00:45:33,289
The majority

1239
00:45:33,909 --> 00:45:35,449
of I don't like using

1240
00:45:35,909 --> 00:45:38,630
the term moderates, but but the majority of,

1241
00:45:40,069 --> 00:45:40,809
the non

1242
00:45:44,264 --> 00:45:45,525
stream is

1243
00:45:47,704 --> 00:45:48,664
You're cutting out. Most

1244
00:45:51,545 --> 00:45:52,284
in Serbia

1245
00:45:52,585 --> 00:45:53,324
are opposed.

1246
00:45:58,569 --> 00:45:59,069
Oh,

1247
00:45:59,369 --> 00:46:00,429
did he lose you?

1248
00:46:00,809 --> 00:46:02,089
I knew it was gonna happen at least

1249
00:46:02,089 --> 00:46:02,589
once.

1250
00:46:03,050 --> 00:46:05,690
So far, it's been reasonably we could hear

1251
00:46:05,690 --> 00:46:07,550
what's being said for the most part.

1252
00:46:07,929 --> 00:46:08,429
But

1253
00:46:08,809 --> 00:46:09,550
so far,

1254
00:46:10,089 --> 00:46:11,369
this is the first time it's been a

1255
00:46:11,369 --> 00:46:12,429
gap this long.

1256
00:46:13,215 --> 00:46:15,775
Well, since we're paused here and I hope

1257
00:46:15,775 --> 00:46:17,055
she comes back because we have a really

1258
00:46:17,055 --> 00:46:18,434
important stuff to get to.

1259
00:46:18,815 --> 00:46:20,494
The the interesting thing I'm touching on there

1260
00:46:20,494 --> 00:46:22,175
is we've talked about a lot is this

1261
00:46:22,175 --> 00:46:24,494
this you know, the question really comes to

1262
00:46:24,494 --> 00:46:25,769
whether or not you know, know, let's just

1263
00:46:25,769 --> 00:46:27,289
take the Muslim brotherhood, for example, or some

1264
00:46:27,289 --> 00:46:29,469
of these these weaponized aspects.

1265
00:46:30,010 --> 00:46:32,590
Do they actually represent a, like, religious

1266
00:46:33,369 --> 00:46:33,869
fanaticism?

1267
00:46:35,130 --> 00:46:36,349
Oh, did we lose her?

1268
00:46:37,050 --> 00:46:38,349
Oh, no. She's back in.

1269
00:46:39,849 --> 00:46:40,750
There we go.

1270
00:46:41,824 --> 00:46:42,784
Let me see if this one

1271
00:46:44,065 --> 00:46:45,585
there we go. Perfect. I had to get

1272
00:46:45,585 --> 00:46:46,804
rid of the other one. Oh my god.

1273
00:46:46,944 --> 00:46:48,464
So so I was just saying that was

1274
00:46:48,464 --> 00:46:49,585
the first time we had that long of

1275
00:46:49,585 --> 00:46:51,105
a gap. So so far, it's been pretty

1276
00:46:51,105 --> 00:46:52,784
okay. What I was simply saying is, I

1277
00:46:52,784 --> 00:46:54,909
guess, the larger point is does something like

1278
00:46:54,909 --> 00:46:57,730
the brother Muslim Brotherhood or something like that

1279
00:46:58,030 --> 00:47:00,829
really represent, like, Muslim fanaticism, or is it

1280
00:47:00,829 --> 00:47:03,550
something that's been created to weaponize that? Now

1281
00:47:03,550 --> 00:47:05,230
I my point is that underneath that, there

1282
00:47:05,230 --> 00:47:07,469
are people that adopt the ideology, and maybe

1283
00:47:07,469 --> 00:47:09,025
I'm wrong in that in general. But it's

1284
00:47:09,025 --> 00:47:10,704
interesting to think about and how these things

1285
00:47:10,704 --> 00:47:12,784
are used. And the more we dig into

1286
00:47:12,784 --> 00:47:14,945
this Zionist long term project, it seems that's

1287
00:47:14,945 --> 00:47:16,704
what their bread and butter is. Like, I

1288
00:47:16,704 --> 00:47:18,144
I interviewed David Eich, and he talks about,

1289
00:47:18,144 --> 00:47:20,324
like, Saboteanism and sort of, like, this foundational

1290
00:47:20,385 --> 00:47:23,200
aspect of before, you know, before Zionism became

1291
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,200
a thing. And then that's what its foundation

1292
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,920
is, like infiltrating religions and governments and using

1293
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:29,360
you know, it's just hard to ignore all

1294
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,400
of that. You know? Anyway, so now that

1295
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:32,099
you're back, go ahead. Continue your points.

1296
00:47:34,434 --> 00:47:36,114
Yeah. And, you know, if you go back

1297
00:47:36,114 --> 00:47:36,614
historically

1298
00:47:37,154 --> 00:47:39,635
even to, you know, the famous Hafez al

1299
00:47:39,635 --> 00:47:41,554
Assad put down of,

1300
00:47:41,954 --> 00:47:42,614
the uprising

1301
00:47:43,474 --> 00:47:45,154
in Hamar in 1982,

1302
00:47:45,154 --> 00:47:47,394
which, of course, is always described as as

1303
00:47:47,394 --> 00:47:47,849
a

1304
00:47:48,329 --> 00:47:49,550
massacre of,

1305
00:47:50,410 --> 00:47:50,910
insurgents

1306
00:47:51,289 --> 00:47:54,250
in Hamar. But the reality was nobody talks

1307
00:47:54,250 --> 00:47:56,489
about, for example, the car bombings that were

1308
00:47:56,489 --> 00:47:58,510
carried out by the Muslim Brotherhood factions

1309
00:47:59,130 --> 00:48:01,470
or, the fact that they entered,

1310
00:48:01,994 --> 00:48:02,894
the Aleppo

1311
00:48:03,355 --> 00:48:03,855
military

1312
00:48:04,554 --> 00:48:05,454
cadet school

1313
00:48:05,914 --> 00:48:06,815
and segregated

1314
00:48:07,674 --> 00:48:10,174
the Alawite and the Shia cadets

1315
00:48:10,474 --> 00:48:12,174
to to execute them.

1316
00:48:12,474 --> 00:48:16,139
And the Sunni Muslim cadets refused to abandon

1317
00:48:16,139 --> 00:48:18,859
their comrades, and so they were executed alongside

1318
00:48:18,859 --> 00:48:21,019
them. Right. And, you know, this is very

1319
00:48:21,019 --> 00:48:24,079
much what we're seeing now. Unfortunately,

1320
00:48:26,539 --> 00:48:28,320
and I and I haven't really

1321
00:48:28,864 --> 00:48:31,684
worked out why this is happening right now.

1322
00:48:33,344 --> 00:48:34,565
What we are seeing

1323
00:48:34,864 --> 00:48:36,164
according to the testimony

1324
00:48:36,944 --> 00:48:39,585
that I received today is that, for example,

1325
00:48:39,585 --> 00:48:42,005
if you have an an Alawite town,

1326
00:48:42,860 --> 00:48:44,079
in the middle of,

1327
00:48:44,699 --> 00:48:45,679
Sunni Muslim

1328
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:46,480
majority

1329
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:47,360
towns,

1330
00:48:47,980 --> 00:48:50,300
the Sunni Muslims now are starting to turn

1331
00:48:50,300 --> 00:48:54,140
against the Alawites. They're being, actually influenced by

1332
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:55,360
the tech theory ideology,

1333
00:48:56,775 --> 00:48:58,614
which for me is is one of the

1334
00:48:58,614 --> 00:49:00,795
saddest things I've heard because,

1335
00:49:02,295 --> 00:49:03,194
Syria was

1336
00:49:03,974 --> 00:49:04,474
always

1337
00:49:05,335 --> 00:49:08,534
Syria First and your faith, your belief, your

1338
00:49:08,534 --> 00:49:09,034
sect,

1339
00:49:09,335 --> 00:49:09,835
second.

1340
00:49:10,614 --> 00:49:12,155
The the fabric of Syria

1341
00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:14,530
was so diverse and inclusive.

1342
00:49:15,309 --> 00:49:17,710
And if this is getting broken down, then

1343
00:49:17,710 --> 00:49:18,210
unfortunately,

1344
00:49:19,869 --> 00:49:21,170
you know, the Israeli,

1345
00:49:21,869 --> 00:49:25,250
clean break doctrine plans, the western plans,

1346
00:49:26,164 --> 00:49:27,065
to effectively

1347
00:49:27,445 --> 00:49:29,224
break down Syria into,

1348
00:49:30,244 --> 00:49:30,744
partition

1349
00:49:31,525 --> 00:49:32,025
sectarian

1350
00:49:32,965 --> 00:49:35,445
statelets, which, you know, this is their project

1351
00:49:35,445 --> 00:49:38,085
in every country that that they intervene in

1352
00:49:38,085 --> 00:49:40,025
and and attack from Former Yugoslavia.

1353
00:49:41,099 --> 00:49:43,119
Yemen pre 02/2015

1354
00:49:43,260 --> 00:49:45,039
was gonna get also partitioned

1355
00:49:45,420 --> 00:49:47,039
into, I think it was six

1356
00:49:47,420 --> 00:49:47,920
stateless

1357
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:48,720
isolating,

1358
00:49:50,059 --> 00:49:50,800
the Anshula

1359
00:49:51,420 --> 00:49:54,655
resistance factions in the center with landlocked with

1360
00:49:54,655 --> 00:49:56,734
no access to the sea, etcetera. So this

1361
00:49:56,734 --> 00:49:57,234
is

1362
00:49:57,614 --> 00:49:58,674
this is a fairly,

1363
00:49:59,375 --> 00:50:00,275
common denominator

1364
00:50:02,574 --> 00:50:03,234
in neocolonialism

1365
00:50:03,934 --> 00:50:05,795
projects right now. But, unfortunately,

1366
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:10,139
since, you know, the December coup, we're seeing

1367
00:50:10,139 --> 00:50:11,440
it have greatest success

1368
00:50:11,739 --> 00:50:12,400
in Syria.

1369
00:50:14,460 --> 00:50:16,239
And I I'm I'm sort of very,

1370
00:50:17,579 --> 00:50:20,380
a little bit shocked and and very saddened

1371
00:50:20,380 --> 00:50:21,905
by by that, to be

1372
00:50:22,445 --> 00:50:23,965
honest. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, we

1373
00:50:23,965 --> 00:50:25,664
can go take go back to the seventies

1374
00:50:25,724 --> 00:50:27,804
and Zbigniew Brzezinski and the general idea of

1375
00:50:27,804 --> 00:50:29,324
the Balkanization of The Middle East. I mean,

1376
00:50:29,324 --> 00:50:30,925
this has been a long term plan as

1377
00:50:30,925 --> 00:50:32,684
you're highlighting. It's not you know, it and

1378
00:50:32,684 --> 00:50:35,005
it's been consistent in most regards as well.

1379
00:50:35,005 --> 00:50:36,480
But, you know, or or even the overlap

1380
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,559
of, like, the as I think Jeffrey Sachs

1381
00:50:38,559 --> 00:50:41,119
laid out the the book Netanyahu's written, seven

1382
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,119
countries, five years discussion. Like, clearly, this has

1383
00:50:43,119 --> 00:50:45,760
been an ongoing effort of Israel fighting these

1384
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,360
things through The United States. I think that's

1385
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:48,719
pretty clear, at least one part of what

1386
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,585
we're talking about. But so what's interesting is

1387
00:50:51,585 --> 00:50:53,824
what you're highlighting there is also a very

1388
00:50:53,824 --> 00:50:57,025
consistent aspect of previous genocides that have been

1389
00:50:57,025 --> 00:50:59,105
stoked by the Zionist entity. And this is

1390
00:50:59,105 --> 00:51:00,465
not you know, I was I was talking

1391
00:51:00,465 --> 00:51:02,945
about this yesterday, that it seems we're we

1392
00:51:02,945 --> 00:51:04,465
we we were discussing these things. This is

1393
00:51:04,465 --> 00:51:06,099
not some hypothetical, let's see how we can

1394
00:51:06,099 --> 00:51:08,420
connect with Israel. It's a documented reality of

1395
00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:10,980
how Israeli's government was involved in, for example,

1396
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:13,380
the Rwanda genocide. Right? Like, it's not an

1397
00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:14,900
opinion. This you can look this up on

1398
00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,579
Wikipedia, for crying out loud, which is what

1399
00:51:16,579 --> 00:51:18,014
I always say is doesn't mean we should

1400
00:51:18,014 --> 00:51:19,855
think Wikipedia means it's proven, but it means

1401
00:51:19,855 --> 00:51:21,694
mass adoption. It is also proven, by the

1402
00:51:21,694 --> 00:51:24,114
way. And it's interesting that it shows that

1403
00:51:24,494 --> 00:51:26,655
the the Israeli government was stoking this in

1404
00:51:26,655 --> 00:51:28,734
the same way you're highlighting, was was was

1405
00:51:28,734 --> 00:51:30,835
fanning the flames of the racial division.

1406
00:51:31,139 --> 00:51:32,760
Know and this is

1407
00:51:33,699 --> 00:51:34,055
all documented stuff. Was arming the side, was

1408
00:51:34,099 --> 00:51:36,019
you know? And then from the, beginning, middle,

1409
00:51:36,019 --> 00:51:37,900
and afterwards, were involved in the whole thing.

1410
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:39,619
You know? And and this is just disgusting

1411
00:51:39,619 --> 00:51:41,059
that it's that obvious. And so we see

1412
00:51:41,059 --> 00:51:42,500
these things in the same way today where

1413
00:51:42,500 --> 00:51:44,659
you as you're seeing, they're stoking these racial

1414
00:51:44,659 --> 00:51:46,279
divides to the point to where they're destroying

1415
00:51:46,614 --> 00:51:47,835
what was previously

1416
00:51:48,135 --> 00:51:50,295
not what they claim. Like, everywhere they're going,

1417
00:51:50,295 --> 00:51:52,135
they're claiming to fight the extremism, but in

1418
00:51:52,135 --> 00:51:55,094
reality, as you're highlighting, they're ultimately destroying religious

1419
00:51:55,094 --> 00:51:57,094
freedom and installing exactly what they claim they're

1420
00:51:57,094 --> 00:51:58,454
trying to fight. Or at the very least,

1421
00:51:58,454 --> 00:52:00,949
that becomes the reality because they're not, you

1422
00:52:00,949 --> 00:52:02,309
know you could frame it however you want.

1423
00:52:02,309 --> 00:52:04,309
The outcome is pretty much the same. Like,

1424
00:52:04,309 --> 00:52:07,509
with with the Christian populations in Iraq, the

1425
00:52:07,509 --> 00:52:10,230
third largest Christian population in Syria being destroyed,

1426
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:12,150
all of these things being targeted. I guess

1427
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:14,005
on that fine point, do you think this

1428
00:52:14,005 --> 00:52:15,844
is a focused effort against Christians in some

1429
00:52:15,844 --> 00:52:17,224
way, or is that a byproduct?

1430
00:52:20,565 --> 00:52:23,125
I think the war against Christians has been

1431
00:52:23,125 --> 00:52:25,684
ongoing for a very long time since even,

1432
00:52:25,684 --> 00:52:28,025
you know, crusader times. But rather,

1433
00:52:29,820 --> 00:52:30,559
it's against

1434
00:52:31,739 --> 00:52:32,239
the

1435
00:52:33,019 --> 00:52:33,420
pan Arab,

1436
00:52:34,940 --> 00:52:38,059
ideology, the the unity of Arabs. That's what

1437
00:52:38,059 --> 00:52:39,360
they're trying to,

1438
00:52:40,059 --> 00:52:40,559
destroy,

1439
00:52:41,019 --> 00:52:44,574
basically. Because Christians here consider themselves to be

1440
00:52:44,574 --> 00:52:45,474
first and foremost

1441
00:52:46,015 --> 00:52:47,795
Syrian Arabs. Right?

1442
00:52:48,815 --> 00:52:51,875
Or or Lebanese Christians, Arab Lebanese Christians.

1443
00:52:52,655 --> 00:52:54,035
It's that Arab identity,

1444
00:52:54,414 --> 00:52:55,155
which is,

1445
00:52:55,695 --> 00:52:56,735
yeah, which is,

1446
00:52:57,295 --> 00:52:59,980
key to how they perceive this war. But

1447
00:52:59,980 --> 00:53:03,019
it's a war against Arab identity, basically, which

1448
00:53:03,019 --> 00:53:05,920
is true, which is entirely true. Arab identity,

1449
00:53:05,980 --> 00:53:08,480
Arab history, Arab culture, Arab civilization.

1450
00:53:10,460 --> 00:53:13,005
And you can see that incredibly clearly, for

1451
00:53:13,164 --> 00:53:15,884
example, in in Damascus where what is being

1452
00:53:15,884 --> 00:53:16,384
destroyed?

1453
00:53:17,804 --> 00:53:18,464
Christian churches,

1454
00:53:19,404 --> 00:53:19,904
Alawites,

1455
00:53:21,005 --> 00:53:24,384
mosques and and shrines and centers, Shia Muslim,

1456
00:53:25,085 --> 00:53:28,019
shrines. You know, all of the history of

1457
00:53:28,019 --> 00:53:28,680
of of,

1458
00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:30,200
pluralist

1459
00:53:30,980 --> 00:53:31,480
coexistence

1460
00:53:31,860 --> 00:53:33,160
in Syria is effectively

1461
00:53:33,539 --> 00:53:34,280
being destroyed,

1462
00:53:35,539 --> 00:53:36,039
leaving

1463
00:53:36,660 --> 00:53:39,720
what behind our partition Syria with a dominant

1464
00:53:41,864 --> 00:53:42,605
tech theory,

1465
00:53:43,625 --> 00:53:44,925
government in charge.

1466
00:53:45,385 --> 00:53:46,985
And, you know, if you go back through

1467
00:53:46,985 --> 00:53:47,804
the CIA,

1468
00:53:49,065 --> 00:53:51,784
DIA documents, this is what they've always been

1469
00:53:51,784 --> 00:53:53,485
been trying to achieve

1470
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:56,320
in Syria, and they've always known that Syria

1471
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,320
is against it, that Syria is opposed to

1472
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,460
it. That's all recorded in the CIA various

1473
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,019
branches and agencies documents

1474
00:54:04,639 --> 00:54:07,219
describing what they what they want to achieve

1475
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:09,139
in Syria. Right?

1476
00:54:11,215 --> 00:54:13,074
And because for for Israel,

1477
00:54:14,655 --> 00:54:15,135
having,

1478
00:54:16,175 --> 00:54:19,235
these warring factions, let's say, in in

1479
00:54:20,655 --> 00:54:21,235
in controllable

1480
00:54:21,775 --> 00:54:22,275
statelets

1481
00:54:23,529 --> 00:54:26,510
is how it likes to to basically govern,

1482
00:54:27,529 --> 00:54:30,569
or or take control of territory that it's

1483
00:54:30,569 --> 00:54:31,069
expanding

1484
00:54:31,609 --> 00:54:34,429
into because that is what serves its agenda.

1485
00:54:35,130 --> 00:54:36,829
And with this current

1486
00:54:38,925 --> 00:54:42,364
exodus of Christians, because Christians are also being

1487
00:54:42,364 --> 00:54:42,864
targeted,

1488
00:54:44,445 --> 00:54:46,704
by the tech theory elements.

1489
00:54:48,045 --> 00:54:50,625
And what we're seeing again is the exodus

1490
00:54:50,925 --> 00:54:51,585
of Christians

1491
00:54:52,289 --> 00:54:53,269
from the region.

1492
00:54:53,730 --> 00:54:54,630
And that has

1493
00:54:55,010 --> 00:54:56,150
always been on the

1494
00:54:56,530 --> 00:54:57,030
agenda

1495
00:54:57,410 --> 00:55:00,630
because then, basically, they leave it open

1496
00:55:01,090 --> 00:55:02,789
as a Sunni Shia.

1497
00:55:03,170 --> 00:55:05,329
I'm simplifying it because, of course, there are

1498
00:55:05,329 --> 00:55:06,309
multiple sects,

1499
00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,804
in in Syria itself and across the region.

1500
00:55:10,184 --> 00:55:12,364
But very much as a Muslim against Muslim

1501
00:55:12,824 --> 00:55:13,324
war

1502
00:55:14,184 --> 00:55:16,045
rather than a war to defend

1503
00:55:16,585 --> 00:55:17,405
Arab identity

1504
00:55:18,264 --> 00:55:18,764
against

1505
00:55:19,304 --> 00:55:21,085
the neo crusader movement

1506
00:55:21,590 --> 00:55:22,329
of which

1507
00:55:23,030 --> 00:55:25,030
Israel is part of, by the way, right

1508
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:25,530
now.

1509
00:55:26,150 --> 00:55:28,150
And you've got all of the kind of

1510
00:55:28,150 --> 00:55:30,889
Christian Zionist elements in the Trump administration

1511
00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:32,570
and the Armageddonists,

1512
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:36,255
as I call them, you know, that

1513
00:55:37,034 --> 00:55:38,954
are are are heralding in the end time

1514
00:55:38,954 --> 00:55:40,574
war and so on. So

1515
00:55:40,875 --> 00:55:41,534
we're in

1516
00:55:43,195 --> 00:55:45,454
a we're in a very dangerous tipping point

1517
00:55:46,074 --> 00:55:47,775
both regionally and globally.

1518
00:55:48,795 --> 00:55:49,695
And you mentioned

1519
00:55:50,579 --> 00:55:51,079
Iran.

1520
00:55:51,860 --> 00:55:53,860
I'm still the jury is still out for

1521
00:55:53,860 --> 00:55:55,380
me a little bit on Iran as to

1522
00:55:55,380 --> 00:55:57,860
whether they are actually going to go after

1523
00:55:57,860 --> 00:55:58,360
them

1524
00:55:59,059 --> 00:56:00,200
because of the complications

1525
00:56:00,579 --> 00:56:02,920
within Iran itself. Although I actually saw,

1526
00:56:03,940 --> 00:56:05,775
just before I came on sort of basically

1527
00:56:06,974 --> 00:56:09,934
saying if Trump was gonna threaten Iran, then,

1528
00:56:10,014 --> 00:56:12,194
you know, to hell with him, basically.

1529
00:56:12,815 --> 00:56:14,574
So it it at the end of the

1530
00:56:14,574 --> 00:56:15,074
day,

1531
00:56:15,454 --> 00:56:17,295
I don't know if we're gonna see conflict

1532
00:56:17,295 --> 00:56:19,719
between Israel and Iran, of course, backed by

1533
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,799
The United States. I'm not sure we're heading

1534
00:56:21,799 --> 00:56:22,619
in that direction.

1535
00:56:23,159 --> 00:56:24,940
But where we're definitely heading

1536
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:26,940
is the complete destabilization

1537
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,380
of West Asia. Iraq now,

1538
00:56:31,159 --> 00:56:34,054
is, you know, certainly going to be targeted,

1539
00:56:34,114 --> 00:56:35,335
in my opinion. Yemen,

1540
00:56:35,715 --> 00:56:37,655
the war is gonna start there again.

1541
00:56:38,514 --> 00:56:41,094
I think tomorrow is the end of the,

1542
00:56:42,755 --> 00:56:43,574
four days,

1543
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:46,250
that Al Houthi

1544
00:56:46,550 --> 00:56:47,210
gave Israel

1545
00:56:47,750 --> 00:56:49,849
to basically restart the humanitarian

1546
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:53,430
supplies into Gaza before Yemen takes action. And

1547
00:56:53,430 --> 00:56:55,930
Yemen is also speaking very strongly

1548
00:56:56,469 --> 00:56:57,610
about what's happening

1549
00:57:06,184 --> 00:57:06,425
So

1550
00:57:07,144 --> 00:57:08,605
Oh, do I lose you again?

1551
00:57:11,065 --> 00:57:13,144
No. God. There you go. Mostly. I don't

1552
00:57:13,144 --> 00:57:13,860
know. You're back.

1553
00:57:14,420 --> 00:57:15,320
I'm back.

1554
00:57:16,420 --> 00:57:18,180
So, Katmos, that you just said that Ahouti

1555
00:57:18,180 --> 00:57:20,180
was basically saying that, you know, that they're

1556
00:57:20,180 --> 00:57:21,619
gonna go back to like, if they don't

1557
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:23,300
then they bring back the supplies in that

1558
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:25,140
they're gonna, you know, take action against Israel,

1559
00:57:25,140 --> 00:57:26,680
and it basically cut out right there.

1560
00:57:27,865 --> 00:57:30,505
Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Basically. And and he's

1561
00:57:30,505 --> 00:57:31,244
also been,

1562
00:57:31,625 --> 00:57:32,525
very strong

1563
00:57:32,905 --> 00:57:35,305
about what is going on in Syria. He's

1564
00:57:35,305 --> 00:57:37,325
made the point that all of this serves

1565
00:57:37,785 --> 00:57:40,905
Israel's agenda and Israel's expansion as policy in

1566
00:57:40,905 --> 00:57:41,565
the region.

1567
00:57:42,780 --> 00:57:44,860
And, you know, he he pretty much did

1568
00:57:44,860 --> 00:57:47,579
issue a fairly strong warning that the ethnic

1569
00:57:47,579 --> 00:57:50,300
cleansing has to stop in Syria, Damascus has

1570
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:51,519
to have to stop.

1571
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:53,280
And, you know, the

1572
00:57:53,739 --> 00:57:55,599
the saddest thing for me is

1573
00:57:55,944 --> 00:57:56,444
that

1574
00:57:57,304 --> 00:57:59,545
people that I spoke to today, for example,

1575
00:57:59,545 --> 00:58:02,025
are still talking about the international community. Why

1576
00:58:02,025 --> 00:58:05,464
isn't the international community doing something to to

1577
00:58:05,464 --> 00:58:08,284
stop this massacre and this brutal slaughter,

1578
00:58:08,859 --> 00:58:10,639
you know, of of civilians.

1579
00:58:11,019 --> 00:58:11,760
They're not

1580
00:58:12,059 --> 00:58:15,440
regime remnants. They're civilians, babies, children. Right.

1581
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:18,619
Girls are being raped and trafficked. Children are

1582
00:58:18,619 --> 00:58:20,000
being trafficked. Yes.

1583
00:58:20,300 --> 00:58:23,099
There is organ extraction going on again with

1584
00:58:23,099 --> 00:58:23,920
the white helmets,

1585
00:58:24,494 --> 00:58:26,574
on the scene and mopping up after the

1586
00:58:26,574 --> 00:58:27,315
Al Qaeda

1587
00:58:27,614 --> 00:58:28,114
atrocities

1588
00:58:28,574 --> 00:58:31,694
just as they have always done historically since

1589
00:58:31,694 --> 00:58:33,714
they were established in 2013.

1590
00:58:34,974 --> 00:58:37,554
There were reports that we heard today

1591
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:39,519
of children being taken,

1592
00:58:40,219 --> 00:58:41,760
for organ extraction

1593
00:58:42,059 --> 00:58:44,460
into Turkey, but also that it's actually being

1594
00:58:44,460 --> 00:58:46,000
done on the ground in Syria.

1595
00:58:46,940 --> 00:58:49,119
Well, let's let's talk about that. I mean,

1596
00:58:49,340 --> 00:58:50,860
this is this is a really this is

1597
00:58:50,860 --> 00:58:52,059
this is one of the worst parts of

1598
00:58:52,059 --> 00:58:54,515
these conversations. I mean, if Yeah. To our

1599
00:58:54,594 --> 00:58:56,275
partition out the worst parts of the genocide.

1600
00:58:56,275 --> 00:58:58,914
But we're you know, this is always something

1601
00:58:58,914 --> 00:59:00,994
that we've seen. Going back to the earliest

1602
00:59:00,994 --> 00:59:01,974
parts of the Syrian

1603
00:59:02,755 --> 00:59:04,755
regime change effort where I mean, there there

1604
00:59:04,755 --> 00:59:06,400
has been articles about the, you know, hundred

1605
00:59:06,719 --> 00:59:08,320
the the missing children of Syria. You know?

1606
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,159
And so there's always seems to be something

1607
00:59:10,159 --> 00:59:11,679
that takes place in these in these wars,

1608
00:59:11,679 --> 00:59:13,360
specifically, that are seem to be the Middle

1609
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,880
East Wars from The US and Israel. But

1610
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,239
I think it's pretty much just what happens

1611
00:59:16,239 --> 00:59:18,914
in conflict, sadly, and disgustingly enough. But so

1612
00:59:18,994 --> 00:59:20,515
do you what do you see that is

1613
00:59:20,515 --> 00:59:21,795
suggesting that at this point? I mean, I

1614
00:59:21,795 --> 00:59:22,914
have that clip, by the way, that you

1615
00:59:22,914 --> 00:59:25,155
shared with me of white helmet vans dumping

1616
00:59:25,155 --> 00:59:26,675
bodies in the side of the road. So,

1617
00:59:26,675 --> 00:59:28,114
actually, what we should do, to be honest,

1618
00:59:28,114 --> 00:59:29,655
like, if you can give a quick overview

1619
00:59:30,195 --> 00:59:31,559
of the white helmets. Because, actually, it's been

1620
00:59:31,559 --> 00:59:33,280
a while since we've since we've had this

1621
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,199
conversation, right, for those that don't even know.

1622
00:59:35,199 --> 00:59:36,320
And we don't have to get so deep

1623
00:59:36,320 --> 00:59:37,760
on it, but give them the basic background

1624
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,599
of what the white helmets not the actual

1625
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:41,679
Syrian civil defense group that they're pretending to

1626
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:43,519
be, but the white helmets with English writing

1627
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:45,224
on their backs. What is that, and and

1628
00:59:45,224 --> 00:59:46,424
how is it playing a role today? What's

1629
00:59:46,424 --> 00:59:47,164
going on?

1630
00:59:48,744 --> 00:59:50,505
Yeah. Well, I mean, the white helmets were

1631
00:59:50,505 --> 00:59:51,005
established

1632
00:59:51,464 --> 00:59:52,605
in 2013,

1633
00:59:52,824 --> 00:59:55,404
not inside Syria, in Turkey and Jordan.

1634
00:59:56,344 --> 00:59:58,844
They were set up with money from USAID,

1635
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:01,699
so from the CIA, from,

1636
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,079
British military intelligence, from MI six, from the

1637
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,300
UK foreign office, from Qatar, from Turkey.

1638
01:00:10,239 --> 01:00:13,315
And they were basically embedded with Al Qaeda

1639
01:00:13,315 --> 01:00:15,494
and the various armed groups affiliated

1640
01:00:16,035 --> 01:00:17,414
with Al Qaeda.

1641
01:00:18,594 --> 01:00:20,055
In order to,

1642
01:00:22,434 --> 01:00:25,655
produce the narratives literally produce the narratives.

1643
01:00:26,159 --> 01:00:29,119
So the the the the staged chemical weapon

1644
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:29,619
events,

1645
01:00:30,639 --> 01:00:33,599
that would criminalize the Syrian government and provide

1646
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:36,019
cover for the armed groups. Right?

1647
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:39,679
And they became sort of a household name

1648
01:00:39,679 --> 01:00:40,179
for

1649
01:00:40,554 --> 01:00:42,795
rescuing people under the rubble, all of which,

1650
01:00:42,795 --> 01:00:44,655
of course, was titled propaganda,

1651
01:00:45,434 --> 01:00:45,934
lies.

1652
01:00:46,954 --> 01:00:48,255
And one of the accusations

1653
01:00:48,795 --> 01:00:51,215
that that was thrown at them by multiple

1654
01:00:51,515 --> 01:00:53,534
civilians that I spoke to,

1655
01:00:54,170 --> 01:00:56,430
There was a panel produced by,

1656
01:00:56,809 --> 01:00:58,989
Russia at the UN in 2018,

1657
01:00:59,769 --> 01:01:00,269
basically,

1658
01:01:01,369 --> 01:01:02,510
running an investigation

1659
01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:05,070
into the white helmet involvement

1660
01:01:05,450 --> 01:01:06,670
in organ trafficking,

1661
01:01:06,970 --> 01:01:10,144
in child trafficking, the use of trafficked children

1662
01:01:10,285 --> 01:01:12,704
in the staged chemical weapon events

1663
01:01:13,085 --> 01:01:14,224
that have been fully

1664
01:01:14,525 --> 01:01:17,324
debunked as, for example, Duma Two Thousand And

1665
01:01:17,324 --> 01:01:19,744
Eighteen, which was actually debunked by

1666
01:01:22,050 --> 01:01:22,550
OPCW,

1667
01:01:23,090 --> 01:01:26,210
the organization for the prohibition of chemical weapons

1668
01:01:26,210 --> 01:01:26,710
since

1669
01:01:28,210 --> 01:01:28,710
ground,

1670
01:01:29,410 --> 01:01:30,469
in Douma, Damascus

1671
01:01:30,849 --> 01:01:33,989
20 18. There there's multiple reports written

1672
01:01:34,289 --> 01:01:36,630
by doctor Piers Robinson on the subject.

1673
01:01:37,265 --> 01:01:39,585
There's been a book published actually called the

1674
01:01:39,585 --> 01:01:40,644
Syria scam,

1675
01:01:41,344 --> 01:01:43,364
by one of the actual OPCW

1676
01:01:43,744 --> 01:01:44,244
inspectors.

1677
01:01:44,704 --> 01:01:46,625
And so the white helmets were there to

1678
01:01:46,625 --> 01:01:48,805
generate the evidence to corroborate

1679
01:01:49,184 --> 01:01:49,925
US, UK

1680
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,900
foreign policy in Syria, which was regime change.

1681
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:56,780
And, of course, they always moved

1682
01:01:57,320 --> 01:01:59,880
with Nusra Front or Al Qaeda. So when

1683
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,099
the Al Qaeda terrorists,

1684
01:02:02,039 --> 01:02:02,539
were,

1685
01:02:03,159 --> 01:02:05,320
moved out of the liberated areas in the

1686
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:07,964
green buses to Idlib. The white helmets didn't

1687
01:02:07,964 --> 01:02:10,224
stay behind to take care of Syrian civilians.

1688
01:02:10,284 --> 01:02:12,704
They moved with this reference to the new

1689
01:02:12,924 --> 01:02:13,664
front lines.

1690
01:02:14,364 --> 01:02:16,764
And so now what we're seeing is white

1691
01:02:16,764 --> 01:02:18,304
helmet involvement again,

1692
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:21,760
in the mopping up of the Al Qaeda

1693
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,739
slaughters, the removal of bodies, throwing of bodies,

1694
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:26,820
down mountainsides

1695
01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,859
into rivers, the burning of bodies,

1696
01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,099
to hide the evidence.

1697
01:02:33,474 --> 01:02:36,514
And they are being associated again with what

1698
01:02:36,514 --> 01:02:38,054
is being reported as,

1699
01:02:38,514 --> 01:02:39,335
organ trafficking

1700
01:02:39,795 --> 01:02:43,094
operations, organ extraction operations that are ongoing

1701
01:02:43,795 --> 01:02:45,940
on the ground in Syria. I mean, that's

1702
01:02:45,940 --> 01:02:48,199
what I'm being told. There are actual doctors

1703
01:02:48,260 --> 01:02:49,559
and medical staff,

1704
01:02:50,739 --> 01:02:51,239
basically

1705
01:02:51,539 --> 01:02:54,980
removing the organs from the injured from the

1706
01:02:54,980 --> 01:02:55,480
freshly

1707
01:02:55,780 --> 01:02:56,280
killed,

1708
01:02:57,539 --> 01:02:58,760
people and also

1709
01:02:59,135 --> 01:03:02,194
taking the children for organ extraction. People basically

1710
01:03:02,255 --> 01:03:02,755
stop

1711
01:03:03,214 --> 01:03:06,094
sending their children to school according to what

1712
01:03:06,094 --> 01:03:08,734
I heard from mothers today because they were

1713
01:03:08,734 --> 01:03:09,635
so scared,

1714
01:03:10,734 --> 01:03:13,214
of these operations. And that's exactly what I

1715
01:03:13,214 --> 01:03:14,114
heard in Aleppo

1716
01:03:14,789 --> 01:03:16,650
back in 2017,

1717
01:03:16,710 --> 01:03:19,130
'20 '16, just after liberation,

1718
01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:21,690
and also in Eastern Ghouta

1719
01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:24,170
in 2018,

1720
01:03:24,230 --> 01:03:25,050
'20 '19

1721
01:03:25,349 --> 01:03:26,250
after liberation

1722
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:27,530
of the suburbs

1723
01:03:28,074 --> 01:03:30,655
of Damascus in in the East of Damascus.

1724
01:03:30,875 --> 01:03:33,215
Same. I heard the same accusations

1725
01:03:33,594 --> 01:03:34,094
being,

1726
01:03:35,195 --> 01:03:37,355
you know, thrown at the white helmets by

1727
01:03:37,355 --> 01:03:39,454
civilians that have lived under their occupation.

1728
01:03:41,150 --> 01:03:42,989
Yeah. And and this, the same things we

1729
01:03:42,989 --> 01:03:45,150
saw in Gaza, Al Shifa, and plenty of

1730
01:03:45,150 --> 01:03:46,590
others, for example. I mean, this is a

1731
01:03:46,590 --> 01:03:48,430
pretty common reality that we've seen in these

1732
01:03:48,430 --> 01:03:49,390
wars, and it it's,

1733
01:03:50,110 --> 01:03:52,030
pretty unnerving to see how public it seems

1734
01:03:52,030 --> 01:03:54,025
to be. And so the the you want

1735
01:03:54,025 --> 01:03:55,625
me to play that video from, you that

1736
01:03:55,625 --> 01:03:57,144
you shared from the white helmets? Is that

1737
01:03:57,144 --> 01:03:58,445
relevant time to share it?

1738
01:04:01,224 --> 01:04:02,184
I'll go ahead I'll go ahead and bring

1739
01:04:02,184 --> 01:04:03,785
it up. I didn't get any of that.

1740
01:04:03,785 --> 01:04:06,265
I haven't been sharing that story. You're this

1741
01:04:06,265 --> 01:04:07,839
this is the video that you want we

1742
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:09,679
you shared with me in regard to the

1743
01:04:09,679 --> 01:04:11,119
white helmets being seen on the side of

1744
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:13,119
the road dumping bodies. I just figured it

1745
01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:14,339
was a good time to share it.

1746
01:04:16,159 --> 01:04:17,839
It really just takes a second. They're driving

1747
01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:18,659
down the road.

1748
01:04:32,494 --> 01:04:34,519
You see, that's very clearly white helmets right

1749
01:04:34,519 --> 01:04:35,019
there

1750
01:04:35,559 --> 01:04:36,059
or

1751
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:37,099
at

1752
01:04:37,639 --> 01:04:38,139
least

1753
01:04:38,679 --> 01:04:39,179
the,

1754
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:40,219
you

1755
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:41,260
know,

1756
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:42,300
pretending

1757
01:04:42,839 --> 01:04:43,339
to

1758
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:44,380
be.

1759
01:04:44,920 --> 01:04:46,199
So go ahead and if you wanna give

1760
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:47,500
us some background on that.

1761
01:04:49,655 --> 01:04:51,735
Yeah. I mean, basically, this was recorded. I

1762
01:04:51,735 --> 01:04:53,894
don't know who was recording it, actually, but,

1763
01:04:54,295 --> 01:04:57,114
there's this one showing them disposing

1764
01:04:57,494 --> 01:04:59,434
of bodies. There's another,

1765
01:05:00,534 --> 01:05:01,889
I there's another,

1766
01:05:02,190 --> 01:05:04,190
bit of video footage which I think was

1767
01:05:04,190 --> 01:05:05,730
picked up by Russian surveillance,

1768
01:05:06,989 --> 01:05:09,650
of a white van, which is not identified

1769
01:05:09,789 --> 01:05:12,849
as white helmets, but could very probably be,

1770
01:05:13,514 --> 01:05:16,094
throwing bodies from the back of the van,

1771
01:05:16,635 --> 01:05:17,534
over the mountainside

1772
01:05:17,835 --> 01:05:19,534
into the valley below.

1773
01:05:20,635 --> 01:05:22,574
And, again, from the testimony

1774
01:05:22,875 --> 01:05:25,034
that that I was given today, the white

1775
01:05:25,034 --> 01:05:28,174
helmets were definitely coming in, cleaning up

1776
01:05:28,699 --> 01:05:30,000
after the massacres,

1777
01:05:30,940 --> 01:05:34,059
and also involved in in looting and burning

1778
01:05:34,059 --> 01:05:37,440
of homes after the killing of the inhabitants.

1779
01:05:37,739 --> 01:05:39,839
So, you know, most Syrians,

1780
01:05:40,905 --> 01:05:43,385
know who they are. They know that they're,

1781
01:05:43,785 --> 01:05:46,265
Nusra Front civil defense. I always remember when

1782
01:05:46,265 --> 01:05:48,184
I was asking, you know, do you know

1783
01:05:48,184 --> 01:05:49,945
who the white helmets are? And they would

1784
01:05:49,945 --> 01:05:52,184
look at me in complete confusion until I

1785
01:05:52,184 --> 01:05:54,364
said, okay. Nusra Front civil defense.

1786
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,640
And and then they would laugh and kind

1787
01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,160
of say, oh, yeah. No. No. We know

1788
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,680
who they they only put on the white

1789
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:02,059
helmets when they're filming.

1790
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:04,920
Otherwise, they're they're Nusra Front. They you know,

1791
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:05,579
they're not

1792
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:08,200
disconnected from Nusra Front in any way, and

1793
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:09,099
they're not paramedics

1794
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:10,885
either, which can be

1795
01:06:11,184 --> 01:06:13,984
pretty much evident from the majority of their

1796
01:06:13,984 --> 01:06:15,605
videos that they Right.

1797
01:06:20,704 --> 01:06:21,764
Paramedic procedures,

1798
01:06:22,625 --> 01:06:23,264
in any of the

1799
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:27,039
Well, there you go. You lost you for

1800
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:28,480
a second there. Well, sir, I should point

1801
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:29,920
out that for those that may not have

1802
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:31,460
protected the dots, Al Nusra

1803
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:33,760
is at least part of be became a

1804
01:06:33,760 --> 01:06:35,534
high tail sham as we've talked about before.

1805
01:06:35,614 --> 01:06:37,295
And so when she's staying on Mosul, I

1806
01:06:37,295 --> 01:06:39,054
think the group that's currently in control of

1807
01:06:39,054 --> 01:06:40,894
Syria, and that's that's what's so unnerving about

1808
01:06:40,894 --> 01:06:42,574
all this. The the work that she's shown

1809
01:06:42,574 --> 01:06:44,815
of them beheading children and smiling images of

1810
01:06:44,815 --> 01:06:46,335
this, you know, women in cage. I mean,

1811
01:06:46,335 --> 01:06:47,934
this is the same groups that were are

1812
01:06:47,934 --> 01:06:49,775
currently in control, and that's why this is

1813
01:06:49,775 --> 01:06:52,619
so upset, upsetting, unnerving, alarming to people that

1814
01:06:52,619 --> 01:06:54,539
have been like us, they've been following this,

1815
01:06:54,539 --> 01:06:56,059
been covering this, to watch them just on

1816
01:06:56,059 --> 01:06:57,739
a dime be like, nope. Never mind. Now

1817
01:06:57,739 --> 01:07:00,139
they're good. Here's a suit. And even even

1818
01:07:00,139 --> 01:07:01,900
the overlap of not even removing the bounty

1819
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:03,420
on his head until, like, four or five

1820
01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:05,179
days after they were in power. I mean

1821
01:07:05,260 --> 01:07:07,155
and and then weeks I mean, like, think

1822
01:07:07,155 --> 01:07:08,355
about how crazy it is to go off

1823
01:07:08,355 --> 01:07:09,414
that provable evidence

1824
01:07:09,795 --> 01:07:10,454
and then

1825
01:07:10,755 --> 01:07:11,974
having this from Israel.

1826
01:07:12,914 --> 01:07:14,994
Jihadists and suits are still jihadists. Right? The

1827
01:07:14,994 --> 01:07:16,914
massacre in Syria proves it. And having all

1828
01:07:16,914 --> 01:07:18,914
these Elon, you know, kind of lackeys, like,

1829
01:07:18,914 --> 01:07:20,675
screaming about how this is why Muslims are

1830
01:07:20,675 --> 01:07:22,489
bad. Lumer comes out and says, here's why

1831
01:07:22,489 --> 01:07:24,109
we shouldn't have Muslims in congress.

1832
01:07:24,409 --> 01:07:26,329
Like, it's just it's insane what they think

1833
01:07:26,329 --> 01:07:27,849
they can get away with. It's just these

1834
01:07:27,849 --> 01:07:29,230
are these are these are disgusting.

1835
01:07:29,929 --> 01:07:31,929
It's make it makes me sick. But the

1836
01:07:31,929 --> 01:07:33,710
the important part on this is to recognize

1837
01:07:34,055 --> 01:07:36,215
who's behind this, who's driving this, who's allowing

1838
01:07:36,215 --> 01:07:38,235
this to happen. So with what you've highlighted

1839
01:07:38,454 --> 01:07:40,454
in regard to the the organ traffic, human

1840
01:07:40,454 --> 01:07:40,954
trafficking,

1841
01:07:41,255 --> 01:07:42,535
you know, all the the worst parts of

1842
01:07:42,535 --> 01:07:44,454
this, where where are you placing this? Are

1843
01:07:44,454 --> 01:07:46,375
the are these extremists that have been empowered

1844
01:07:46,375 --> 01:07:48,039
that are just doing what they do, or

1845
01:07:48,039 --> 01:07:49,559
is this being driven by some kind of

1846
01:07:49,559 --> 01:07:51,159
a state actor? You know, how do you

1847
01:07:51,159 --> 01:07:52,779
place all of the stuff that you're seeing?

1848
01:07:52,839 --> 01:07:54,519
Even even in regard to the massacres, is

1849
01:07:54,519 --> 01:07:56,279
that just a byproduct, or is that in

1850
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:58,779
because that's something that somebody wants to happen?

1851
01:08:00,635 --> 01:08:03,054
I mean, I think definitely that is something

1852
01:08:03,194 --> 01:08:04,734
that, you know, the West,

1853
01:08:05,675 --> 01:08:06,494
that Israel,

1854
01:08:07,114 --> 01:08:08,255
wants to happen,

1855
01:08:09,434 --> 01:08:09,934
because,

1856
01:08:11,275 --> 01:08:12,655
basically, of course,

1857
01:08:14,619 --> 01:08:15,519
Shia Muslims,

1858
01:08:16,060 --> 01:08:16,719
the Alawites,

1859
01:08:17,020 --> 01:08:18,560
and so on, these,

1860
01:08:20,140 --> 01:08:22,779
sects tend to be those that are the

1861
01:08:22,779 --> 01:08:24,159
majority of the resistance.

1862
01:08:24,619 --> 01:08:26,140
I mean, at the end of the day,

1863
01:08:26,140 --> 01:08:27,520
who was defending

1864
01:08:27,979 --> 01:08:28,479
Palestine?

1865
01:08:29,085 --> 01:08:30,305
Yemen, Hezbollah,

1866
01:08:31,885 --> 01:08:33,185
the Islamic resistance

1867
01:08:33,565 --> 01:08:34,225
in Iraq

1868
01:08:35,164 --> 01:08:37,104
and in Syria. Right?

1869
01:08:38,045 --> 01:08:39,505
And so, therefore, the destruction

1870
01:08:39,965 --> 01:08:42,225
of, if you like, the resistance factions

1871
01:08:42,739 --> 01:08:43,560
and the reduction

1872
01:08:43,860 --> 01:08:44,840
down to,

1873
01:08:45,220 --> 01:08:49,000
Sunni Islamic states having dominance, which means normalization

1874
01:08:49,699 --> 01:08:52,500
with Israel as we're seeing with the Gulf

1875
01:08:52,500 --> 01:08:54,199
States that, of course, are

1876
01:08:54,579 --> 01:08:55,079
incubating,

1877
01:08:56,375 --> 01:08:58,635
and funding these Wahhabi,

1878
01:08:59,895 --> 01:09:03,814
terrorist factions and have been since 02/2011

1879
01:09:03,814 --> 01:09:05,594
and even prior to that.

1880
01:09:06,055 --> 01:09:08,875
Turkey and Qatar, of course, are the backers

1881
01:09:09,094 --> 01:09:11,194
of the Muslim Brotherhood factions.

1882
01:09:12,319 --> 01:09:14,239
And so, therefore, if you look at it

1883
01:09:14,239 --> 01:09:16,079
in in that way, this is what it's

1884
01:09:16,079 --> 01:09:18,899
about. It's about the dominance of the proxy

1885
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:19,460
forces

1886
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,500
of those that want dominance

1887
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,979
in the region, if that makes sense.

1888
01:09:25,914 --> 01:09:27,454
Right? And so, therefore, the removal,

1889
01:09:29,515 --> 01:09:30,574
of any impediment,

1890
01:09:31,914 --> 01:09:32,414
any,

1891
01:09:32,954 --> 01:09:33,454
faction

1892
01:09:33,755 --> 01:09:34,494
that may,

1893
01:09:35,275 --> 01:09:36,095
let's say,

1894
01:09:36,715 --> 01:09:38,414
foster some kind of resistance

1895
01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:41,659
against what is going on, the fractioning,

1896
01:09:42,119 --> 01:09:42,779
the fracturing

1897
01:09:43,079 --> 01:09:43,739
of Syrian

1898
01:09:44,359 --> 01:09:44,859
society

1899
01:09:45,399 --> 01:09:45,899
into,

1900
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:47,020
partitioned,

1901
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:49,659
territories, for example.

1902
01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,545
And, you know, it's it's not by mistake

1903
01:09:53,764 --> 01:09:55,385
that we see Israel now,

1904
01:09:56,085 --> 01:09:58,904
coming out with statements in defense of,

1905
01:09:59,284 --> 01:10:00,505
the Alawite sex.

1906
01:10:00,965 --> 01:10:03,864
Right. And and, again, that in collaboration

1907
01:10:04,404 --> 01:10:07,689
with Russia on the coast, maintaining Russian bases

1908
01:10:07,750 --> 01:10:09,210
on the coast. Haim Amin

1909
01:10:09,750 --> 01:10:10,409
has taken,

1910
01:10:11,350 --> 01:10:13,050
I think it's in the region

1911
01:10:13,829 --> 01:10:16,229
actually, I'm really not sure how many currently

1912
01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:18,010
are inside Haim Amin base.

1913
01:10:19,024 --> 01:10:21,505
And another point to make actually here to

1914
01:10:21,505 --> 01:10:23,524
show how this is so deliberate

1915
01:10:24,465 --> 01:10:27,125
is as soon as HTS came to power,

1916
01:10:27,824 --> 01:10:29,604
the EU closed its borders

1917
01:10:30,224 --> 01:10:32,005
to these persecuted minorities.

1918
01:10:32,970 --> 01:10:34,189
Whereas during,

1919
01:10:34,890 --> 01:10:35,949
the Assad presidency,

1920
01:10:36,810 --> 01:10:39,289
EU had opened its borders to what were

1921
01:10:39,289 --> 01:10:39,789
majority

1922
01:10:40,489 --> 01:10:41,789
radicals and extremists

1923
01:10:42,489 --> 01:10:45,289
that are now embedded in Europe and are

1924
01:10:45,289 --> 01:10:47,864
coming out with statements in support of the

1925
01:10:47,864 --> 01:10:49,564
Taqiri project in Syria.

1926
01:10:50,024 --> 01:10:52,505
Right? Now the borders are closed to the

1927
01:10:52,505 --> 01:10:55,404
genuinely persecuted Syrians who are genuinely

1928
01:10:55,704 --> 01:10:56,204
fleeing

1929
01:10:56,585 --> 01:10:59,564
what is a genocide against the minority sect

1930
01:10:59,940 --> 01:11:00,440
inside

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01:11:00,979 --> 01:11:03,539
Syria. It's and at the same time, they're

1932
01:11:03,539 --> 01:11:06,020
they're lifting the sanctions again or or at

1933
01:11:06,020 --> 01:11:08,039
least lessening the sanctions against

1934
01:11:08,340 --> 01:11:08,840
HTS.

1935
01:11:09,539 --> 01:11:10,280
Right? Right.

1936
01:11:10,739 --> 01:11:13,640
And and they're inviting Jelani to donor conferences.

1937
01:11:13,935 --> 01:11:15,395
I mean, these are the clients

1938
01:11:16,655 --> 01:11:18,835
you just can't get. I mean, I'm laughing

1939
01:11:18,895 --> 01:11:19,395
because

1940
01:11:20,335 --> 01:11:22,814
the obscenity of it is so kind of

1941
01:11:22,814 --> 01:11:25,295
tragically absurd that it it's I don't know

1942
01:11:25,295 --> 01:11:27,074
what else to do, really.

1943
01:11:27,969 --> 01:11:29,810
Well, there's there's stuff like this, for example.

1944
01:11:29,810 --> 01:11:32,210
This was on the seventh. UK unfreezes Syrian

1945
01:11:32,210 --> 01:11:33,889
central bank assets. They're in the middle of

1946
01:11:33,889 --> 01:11:35,969
an ethnic cleansing that everyone's watching, and you

1947
01:11:35,969 --> 01:11:37,810
go, yeah. Here's here's your central bank assets

1948
01:11:37,810 --> 01:11:39,649
back that we froze under Assad regime. Like,

1949
01:11:39,649 --> 01:11:41,889
it it's very clear as as people have

1950
01:11:41,889 --> 01:11:43,270
pointed out more than once

1951
01:11:43,625 --> 01:11:45,704
that it's that what The US and Israel

1952
01:11:45,704 --> 01:11:46,744
and The U EU

1953
01:11:47,545 --> 01:11:49,324
UK and what they've been doing

1954
01:11:49,625 --> 01:11:52,265
is funding the most radical elements of Islam

1955
01:11:52,265 --> 01:11:54,425
for decades in order to use them against

1956
01:11:54,425 --> 01:11:55,704
the people that won't just bow to their

1957
01:11:55,704 --> 01:11:57,625
interests. And that's not necessarily good guy, bad

1958
01:11:57,625 --> 01:11:59,229
guy here. You could argue that the other

1959
01:11:59,229 --> 01:12:00,670
side of it is bad their own ways,

1960
01:12:00,670 --> 01:12:02,590
but they're unwilling to bow to the interest

1961
01:12:02,590 --> 01:12:04,350
of a foreign government, usually at the expense

1962
01:12:04,350 --> 01:12:05,329
of their own people.

1963
01:12:06,029 --> 01:12:07,550
And even if they're enriching themselves in that

1964
01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:09,550
same situation, they then run to the worst

1965
01:12:09,550 --> 01:12:11,389
people and say, Here, give them money and

1966
01:12:11,389 --> 01:12:13,225
arms, and then throw them against the person

1967
01:12:13,225 --> 01:12:14,985
that they're trying to remove from power. And

1968
01:12:14,985 --> 01:12:16,664
then when they take power, they just let

1969
01:12:16,664 --> 01:12:18,185
it become exactly what they said they were

1970
01:12:18,185 --> 01:12:20,284
trying to fight. And this is very consistent.

1971
01:12:20,585 --> 01:12:21,945
You know? And this is what we're seeing

1972
01:12:21,945 --> 01:12:23,465
take place right now in front of us.

1973
01:12:23,465 --> 01:12:25,145
We're watching I mean, this is the the

1974
01:12:25,145 --> 01:12:25,645
proof

1975
01:12:26,070 --> 01:12:27,750
right now. We're watching I even saw I

1976
01:12:27,750 --> 01:12:30,390
think it's, Alan Mizrahi's account on Twitter that

1977
01:12:30,390 --> 01:12:31,829
I'm not familiar with him personally, but I've

1978
01:12:31,829 --> 01:12:33,989
been watching his coverage and discussion throughout, like,

1979
01:12:33,989 --> 01:12:35,829
his postpartum or seven. And I appreciate a

1980
01:12:35,829 --> 01:12:37,270
lot of his stakes. But, yeah, I didn't

1981
01:12:37,270 --> 01:12:39,109
like his opinion on how Syria was going.

1982
01:12:39,109 --> 01:12:41,235
I just disagreed. And I recently saw saw

1983
01:12:41,235 --> 01:12:42,435
him come out and say, you know what?

1984
01:12:42,435 --> 01:12:43,795
I have to admit my ignorance on this.

1985
01:12:43,795 --> 01:12:45,635
And, you know, now I'm seeing finally what

1986
01:12:45,635 --> 01:12:47,235
Saab was actually fighting. You know? It's like,

1987
01:12:47,235 --> 01:12:49,395
well, good on you for adjusting your opinion

1988
01:12:49,395 --> 01:12:51,314
for information. You know? And it's it's obvious

1989
01:12:51,314 --> 01:12:53,074
to see it's not again, it's it's always

1990
01:12:53,074 --> 01:12:54,235
wrong in my opinion to try to make

1991
01:12:54,235 --> 01:12:55,850
a good guy bad guy, but you can

1992
01:12:55,850 --> 01:12:57,530
see what they were actually fighting at this

1993
01:12:57,530 --> 01:12:59,050
point, and you can see what we've been

1994
01:12:59,050 --> 01:13:00,569
trying to highlight. And to your point about

1995
01:13:00,569 --> 01:13:02,729
the border, that's actually really relevant to a

1996
01:13:02,729 --> 01:13:04,890
lot of other conversations that this game is

1997
01:13:04,890 --> 01:13:07,069
being played about you know, like, there's weaponized

1998
01:13:07,210 --> 01:13:09,689
immigration migration all over the place. Israel and

1999
01:13:09,689 --> 01:13:11,244
The US have been doing it forever. And

2000
01:13:11,244 --> 01:13:12,765
what's interesting is you got the right all

2001
01:13:12,765 --> 01:13:15,244
radicalized about trying to highlight, you know, the

2002
01:13:15,244 --> 01:13:17,005
sorrows, which is sir certainly part of it

2003
01:13:17,005 --> 01:13:19,265
too. It's it's a partisan game. There's nonpartisan.

2004
01:13:19,564 --> 01:13:21,725
Yeah. Highlighting the you know, they're weaponized or

2005
01:13:21,725 --> 01:13:23,564
bringing in a military age males, and what

2006
01:13:23,564 --> 01:13:25,164
you're highlighting there is that they're they're the

2007
01:13:25,164 --> 01:13:27,319
ones welcoming in that problem and

2008
01:13:27,699 --> 01:13:29,380
then stopping it when it's the actual innocent

2009
01:13:29,380 --> 01:13:30,420
people. And, you know, and then the point

2010
01:13:30,420 --> 01:13:32,500
is they demonize the actual people on the

2011
01:13:32,500 --> 01:13:33,939
ground when it's the people that you know,

2012
01:13:33,939 --> 01:13:35,619
it it just it's very weaponized. And it's

2013
01:13:35,619 --> 01:13:37,139
all it's never one thing or the other.

2014
01:13:37,139 --> 01:13:38,760
It just shows you how very clearly

2015
01:13:39,300 --> 01:13:41,545
contrived the whole thing is. And that's what

2016
01:13:41,545 --> 01:13:42,824
always makes me the most sick about this

2017
01:13:42,824 --> 01:13:44,425
is it's, you know, people who just you

2018
01:13:44,425 --> 01:13:46,505
know, a murderer is a disgusting person that

2019
01:13:46,505 --> 01:13:48,104
used to be criticized. But a person who

2020
01:13:48,104 --> 01:13:49,784
is a murderer but then calls for you

2021
01:13:49,784 --> 01:13:51,385
to praise them for doing good things is,

2022
01:13:51,385 --> 01:13:52,984
like, the worst thing in the world. And

2023
01:13:52,984 --> 01:13:54,904
I just key that everywhere today, and that's

2024
01:13:54,904 --> 01:13:57,239
what these people represent to me. So, I

2025
01:13:57,239 --> 01:13:59,000
mean, there's a lot of other ways we

2026
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,519
could get into a lot of directions we

2027
01:14:00,519 --> 01:14:01,639
could take this. Is there anything else that

2028
01:14:01,639 --> 01:14:02,920
you wanted to make sure we talked about

2029
01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:04,359
before we kinda wrap up today? Because I

2030
01:14:04,359 --> 01:14:06,059
think this is a good kind of encapsulation

2031
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:07,559
of what's going on. But if there's anything

2032
01:14:07,559 --> 01:14:09,715
we're missing, please let me know because go

2033
01:14:09,715 --> 01:14:10,215
ahead.

2034
01:14:10,914 --> 01:14:12,595
Well, no. I mean, I think your point

2035
01:14:12,595 --> 01:14:15,574
about president Assad and, you know, I think,

2036
01:14:16,435 --> 01:14:17,655
that was very much

2037
01:14:18,114 --> 01:14:18,614
the

2038
01:14:19,074 --> 01:14:21,735
topic today was that all of these people

2039
01:14:22,770 --> 01:14:25,090
who have fled to Lebanon with nothing, I

2040
01:14:25,090 --> 01:14:27,329
mean, literally nothing, just the clothes on their

2041
01:14:27,329 --> 01:14:27,829
back,

2042
01:14:28,770 --> 01:14:31,250
still have family inside Syria, so they can't

2043
01:14:31,250 --> 01:14:33,909
even I couldn't film them. I couldn't photograph

2044
01:14:33,969 --> 01:14:35,909
them. I can't use their names

2045
01:14:36,465 --> 01:14:39,185
because literally their Facebook pages are being,

2046
01:14:39,664 --> 01:14:40,164
monitored.

2047
01:14:40,784 --> 01:14:42,885
Even if they put a like on someone's

2048
01:14:43,744 --> 01:14:46,244
post, their family is gonna be slaughtered.

2049
01:14:46,625 --> 01:14:49,345
Literally, that's how insane it is. And remember

2050
01:14:49,345 --> 01:14:51,524
how they said to us, you know, oh,

2051
01:14:52,199 --> 01:14:52,699
in

2052
01:14:53,239 --> 01:14:55,479
under Assad, you know, no one can speak

2053
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:57,579
out. No one has freedom of speech.

2054
01:14:58,520 --> 01:14:59,020
And,

2055
01:14:59,399 --> 01:15:01,479
you know, basically, what everyone was saying to

2056
01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:02,779
me today was, look,

2057
01:15:03,319 --> 01:15:05,994
under the two Assad, so under the two

2058
01:15:05,994 --> 01:15:09,435
president Assad, we never had this. Nobody in

2059
01:15:09,435 --> 01:15:09,935
Syria

2060
01:15:10,235 --> 01:15:12,494
ever wondered who their neighbor was.

2061
01:15:12,875 --> 01:15:14,255
You know, they took in,

2062
01:15:15,755 --> 01:15:19,719
Sunni Muslims who fled from Idlib, for example,

2063
01:15:19,719 --> 01:15:22,359
they took them into their communities. Now those

2064
01:15:22,359 --> 01:15:24,460
Sunni Muslims are turning against them,

2065
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,859
whipped up by the HTS,

2066
01:15:27,319 --> 01:15:27,819
Taqfiri

2067
01:15:28,199 --> 01:15:28,699
ideology.

2068
01:15:30,679 --> 01:15:31,179
And,

2069
01:15:31,914 --> 01:15:34,335
you know, as they said, this never happened

2070
01:15:34,395 --> 01:15:36,715
under Assad, and there are multiple things that

2071
01:15:36,715 --> 01:15:39,194
I'm hearing. You know, you you hear, well,

2072
01:15:39,194 --> 01:15:41,675
everything's gonna get better. So now, you know,

2073
01:15:41,675 --> 01:15:42,895
there's no electricity.

2074
01:15:43,274 --> 01:15:46,069
There's no system. The Wi Fi is way

2075
01:15:46,069 --> 01:15:48,489
worse. There's no water. There's no food.

2076
01:15:49,270 --> 01:15:49,929
The majority

2077
01:15:50,550 --> 01:15:53,270
of Alawites and ethnic minorities have been laid

2078
01:15:53,270 --> 01:15:54,489
off. They're unemployed.

2079
01:15:55,349 --> 01:15:55,849
Right?

2080
01:15:56,469 --> 01:15:59,189
And so unemployment is sky high in the

2081
01:15:59,189 --> 01:16:02,185
country. So all of this talk about lifting

2082
01:16:02,185 --> 01:16:02,685
sanctions

2083
01:16:03,065 --> 01:16:04,025
and and, you know,

2084
01:16:04,585 --> 01:16:08,125
economic recovery and inflation coming down is absolute

2085
01:16:08,824 --> 01:16:11,965
nonsense. Right. But the people are not able

2086
01:16:12,265 --> 01:16:14,045
to protest. They're not able,

2087
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:15,979
to say anything

2088
01:16:16,439 --> 01:16:17,579
against HTS,

2089
01:16:17,960 --> 01:16:20,300
and they're living in in absolute

2090
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:21,500
misery

2091
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,679
right now. And the West is completely ignoring

2092
01:16:24,679 --> 01:16:25,979
it because they endorse

2093
01:16:26,845 --> 01:16:29,005
what is going on inside Syria. They they

2094
01:16:29,005 --> 01:16:31,405
created this. This is what they engineered. This

2095
01:16:31,405 --> 01:16:33,965
is what they wanted to happen for Syria

2096
01:16:33,965 --> 01:16:34,784
to be weakened,

2097
01:16:35,965 --> 01:16:38,385
and terrorized to a point where it accepts

2098
01:16:39,150 --> 01:16:41,250
foreign intervention, where it accepts

2099
01:16:41,789 --> 01:16:42,289
partitioning,

2100
01:16:42,590 --> 01:16:43,489
where it accepts

2101
01:16:43,869 --> 01:16:46,770
Israeli occupation as being better than HTS.

2102
01:16:47,150 --> 01:16:49,489
And I am hearing that, by the way,

2103
01:16:50,350 --> 01:16:52,814
from people on the ground, which is just,

2104
01:16:53,375 --> 01:16:54,895
you know, I mean, it's kind of off

2105
01:16:54,895 --> 01:16:57,295
the scale crazy for me. You would never

2106
01:16:57,295 --> 01:16:59,475
have heard that even during the most,

2107
01:17:00,414 --> 01:17:02,114
poverty stricken times

2108
01:17:02,494 --> 01:17:06,094
under president Assad, which was from 2020 onwards

2109
01:17:06,094 --> 01:17:06,594
where

2110
01:17:06,895 --> 01:17:07,395
Trump's

2111
01:17:09,619 --> 01:17:12,840
Caesar doctrine sanctions really started to,

2112
01:17:14,420 --> 01:17:15,639
seriously impact,

2113
01:17:16,500 --> 01:17:18,659
the economy. And, yes, of course, there was

2114
01:17:18,659 --> 01:17:20,340
corruption. Of course, there, you know

2115
01:17:23,494 --> 01:17:24,715
but a lot of

2116
01:17:25,975 --> 01:17:26,555
be blamed

2117
01:17:27,335 --> 01:17:29,675
on fourteen years war, sanctions,

2118
01:17:30,055 --> 01:17:31,835
economic pressure, the occupation

2119
01:17:32,215 --> 01:17:33,835
of resources and agriculture,

2120
01:17:34,215 --> 01:17:37,574
the burning, deliberate burning of agriculture and forestry

2121
01:17:37,574 --> 01:17:39,310
and so on. You know,

2122
01:17:40,010 --> 01:17:40,989
and an ongoing,

2123
01:17:43,050 --> 01:17:43,789
low pressure

2124
01:17:44,170 --> 01:17:45,230
war until,

2125
01:17:45,770 --> 01:17:46,820
December

2126
01:17:46,820 --> 01:17:47,869
2024.

2127
01:17:49,210 --> 01:17:51,690
And and and so I think it's very

2128
01:17:51,690 --> 01:17:53,390
important for people to understand

2129
01:17:53,824 --> 01:17:56,385
that while things might have not been great,

2130
01:17:56,385 --> 01:17:58,465
they might have been difficult. There was a

2131
01:17:58,465 --> 01:18:01,425
system under president Assad. Even me living in

2132
01:18:01,425 --> 01:18:03,744
Syria for five years, I knew exactly what

2133
01:18:03,744 --> 01:18:06,305
hours of electricity I would have. I knew

2134
01:18:06,305 --> 01:18:07,524
that the water came

2135
01:18:07,949 --> 01:18:09,869
every forty eight hours from the gov you

2136
01:18:09,869 --> 01:18:11,409
know what I mean? There was a system.

2137
01:18:11,869 --> 01:18:13,390
I knew how to deal with it. You

2138
01:18:13,390 --> 01:18:15,329
were dealing with with a known

2139
01:18:15,869 --> 01:18:16,369
quantity.

2140
01:18:16,989 --> 01:18:18,289
Now you're not.

2141
01:18:19,069 --> 01:18:21,390
People are living in a complete free fall

2142
01:18:21,390 --> 01:18:21,890
limbo,

2143
01:18:23,234 --> 01:18:23,975
And and,

2144
01:18:24,515 --> 01:18:26,534
you know, it's it's kind of terrifying

2145
01:18:26,835 --> 01:18:29,654
on all levels from a from ethnic cleansing

2146
01:18:29,875 --> 01:18:32,675
level, but even from an economic level, from

2147
01:18:32,675 --> 01:18:35,470
a lack of future level, from a not

2148
01:18:35,470 --> 01:18:38,530
knowing where on earth the country is heading,

2149
01:18:38,670 --> 01:18:41,229
who's going to be in charge in the

2150
01:18:41,229 --> 01:18:43,710
next two months, three months, four months, nobody

2151
01:18:43,710 --> 01:18:45,409
knows. It's in a complete

2152
01:18:45,949 --> 01:18:48,430
free fall as a country. And, yes, you

2153
01:18:48,430 --> 01:18:50,074
know, there are resistance

2154
01:18:51,574 --> 01:18:52,715
elements forming,

2155
01:18:54,375 --> 01:18:56,715
as there always will be.

2156
01:18:57,255 --> 01:18:59,195
But the country has been,

2157
01:19:00,775 --> 01:19:03,515
to a large degree, so battered and besieged,

2158
01:19:05,219 --> 01:19:08,359
and savagely attacked for the last fourteen years.

2159
01:19:10,420 --> 01:19:13,319
It's very hard not to to feel that

2160
01:19:14,420 --> 01:19:17,239
the western agenda, the Zionist agenda,

2161
01:19:18,579 --> 01:19:19,719
is not inevitable.

2162
01:19:20,314 --> 01:19:22,554
You know? I know. I it's it's such

2163
01:19:22,554 --> 01:19:24,875
a hard thing. Like, that's I keep struggling

2164
01:19:24,875 --> 01:19:26,875
with that just around the Gaza, you know,

2165
01:19:26,875 --> 01:19:28,654
the genocide taking place in Palestine

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and and the idea that it's like I

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I know that every like, it's I mean,

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I everyone's the wrong term since that is

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hyperbolic, but, like, the the vast majority of

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01:19:36,610 --> 01:19:39,409
the world people see this. That's just that's

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01:19:39,409 --> 01:19:41,649
undeniable at this point. And yet even in

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01:19:41,649 --> 01:19:43,649
this country, left and right, I think most

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01:19:43,649 --> 01:19:45,890
people are acknowledging. And yet we turn around

2174
01:19:45,890 --> 01:19:47,895
and it's like they're not even flinching. They're

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01:19:47,895 --> 01:19:48,554
not even

2176
01:19:48,854 --> 01:19:50,694
not Biden, not Trump. And it's like, okay.

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01:19:50,694 --> 01:19:52,454
Do we just not understand how the the

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01:19:52,454 --> 01:19:54,054
the power dynamic works here? Like, I don't

2179
01:19:54,054 --> 01:19:55,974
think it's voting. That's for sure. But, you

2180
01:19:55,974 --> 01:19:57,574
know, it's just like so we we have

2181
01:19:57,574 --> 01:19:59,574
to reevaluate how we have an effect in

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01:19:59,574 --> 01:20:01,654
this regard. And it's really unnerving to see

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that whether or not we all see it,

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01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:04,599
that it does seem to march forward regardless,

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01:20:04,599 --> 01:20:06,199
and that does seem to suggest impunity. And

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01:20:06,199 --> 01:20:07,800
it's like, that's what we're we need to

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01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,079
stop. Like, we need to find a way

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01:20:09,079 --> 01:20:10,599
to make sure that's not the reality we

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01:20:10,599 --> 01:20:12,119
live in. And but it's it's hard. I

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01:20:12,119 --> 01:20:13,800
mean, this is a, this is a gun

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01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,399
check moment for people around the world to

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01:20:15,399 --> 01:20:17,409
see what power we we actually exist under.

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01:20:17,409 --> 01:20:18,895
And and the point should be made, by

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01:20:18,895 --> 01:20:20,975
the way, to reiterate actually, that what you're

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01:20:20,975 --> 01:20:23,614
highlighting there about Syria in the conversation you

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01:20:23,614 --> 01:20:26,414
expecting, though, that's that's that's because of the

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01:20:26,414 --> 01:20:28,094
way it was turned into. Right? That's not

2198
01:20:28,094 --> 01:20:29,935
that's how Syria was. That's because of The

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01:20:29,935 --> 01:20:30,390
US

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01:20:30,789 --> 01:20:32,869
destabilization of that country. Right? Like, there's it's

2201
01:20:32,869 --> 01:20:33,850
this long term

2202
01:20:34,229 --> 01:20:36,949
attack under like, same with Venezuela, like, starving

2203
01:20:36,949 --> 01:20:38,310
these people and turning around and going, look.

2204
01:20:38,310 --> 01:20:39,550
They can't even feed themselves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

2205
01:20:39,550 --> 01:20:42,070
You know? It's it's just sickening how clear

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01:20:42,070 --> 01:20:43,750
it is. But I actually think that more

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01:20:43,750 --> 01:20:45,130
people than I've ever seen

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01:20:45,555 --> 01:20:47,154
are beginning to see this. But, again, like

2209
01:20:47,154 --> 01:20:48,835
I just said, whether that has an effect

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01:20:48,835 --> 01:20:50,114
on the outcome or not is a different

2211
01:20:50,114 --> 01:20:51,715
conversation, but it's still good to see that

2212
01:20:51,715 --> 01:20:53,875
people are you know, the truth and acknowledging

2213
01:20:53,875 --> 01:20:55,395
that truth is is the first step in

2214
01:20:55,395 --> 01:20:56,755
any real part of change. And so I'm

2215
01:20:56,755 --> 01:20:59,234
really glad that that's happening, but suffering is

2216
01:20:59,234 --> 01:21:01,409
hard to stomach. You know? And I'm glad

2217
01:21:01,409 --> 01:21:03,010
that people like you are there on the

2218
01:21:03,010 --> 01:21:04,770
ground choosing to continue to cover this and

2219
01:21:04,770 --> 01:21:06,369
putting yourself at risk to do so because

2220
01:21:06,369 --> 01:21:08,449
you believe in that truth. So it's it's

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01:21:08,449 --> 01:21:09,590
worthy of, you know,

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01:21:10,130 --> 01:21:11,590
commend be you know, respect.

2223
01:21:12,050 --> 01:21:13,810
But I think what's important is that people

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01:21:13,810 --> 01:21:15,489
continue to cover this, continue to follow your

2225
01:21:15,489 --> 01:21:16,789
work, support your work,

2226
01:21:17,465 --> 01:21:19,145
and keep fighting for this truth. I mean,

2227
01:21:19,145 --> 01:21:20,505
I and but I we need to evolve

2228
01:21:20,505 --> 01:21:22,904
this into other conversations about how we actually

2229
01:21:22,904 --> 01:21:25,385
see this translate into real change. And I'm

2230
01:21:25,465 --> 01:21:27,385
you know, maybe government is not the answer.

2231
01:21:27,385 --> 01:21:28,744
I mean, you know I think that, but

2232
01:21:28,744 --> 01:21:30,569
I hope we can have these conversations. So

2233
01:21:30,649 --> 01:21:31,929
thank you again for being here today. And,

2234
01:21:31,929 --> 01:21:33,289
you know, anything else you wanna leave us

2235
01:21:33,289 --> 01:21:34,349
with on the way out?

2236
01:21:35,130 --> 01:21:37,229
No. Just thanks for having me on, Roane.

2237
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:40,170
I'm sorry. The Internet was a bit flaky

2238
01:21:40,170 --> 01:21:42,750
again as per always when we get together.

2239
01:21:42,889 --> 01:21:43,210
But,

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You know, it it's always really good to

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01:21:46,234 --> 01:21:48,335
talk to you and and talk through things.

2242
01:21:48,954 --> 01:21:50,314
Yeah. Well, thank you as always for joining

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01:21:50,314 --> 01:21:51,755
me, and I hope this was insightful for

2244
01:21:51,755 --> 01:21:53,514
everybody out there. And look for I'm sure

2245
01:21:53,514 --> 01:21:55,034
we'll be connecting in the future. So thank

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01:21:55,034 --> 01:21:56,795
you for tuning in. And as always, question

2247
01:21:56,795 --> 01:21:58,654
everything. Come to your own conclusions.

2248
01:21:58,954 --> 01:21:59,774
Stay vigilant.

2249
01:22:00,500 --> 01:22:02,739
Discuss the situation in Syria after the collapse

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of Assad's regime. A collapse that was made

2251
01:22:04,739 --> 01:22:07,380
possible by Israel's weakening of Iran's terror axis,

2252
01:22:07,380 --> 01:22:09,460
especially the weakening of Hezbollah and the removal

2253
01:22:09,460 --> 01:22:10,119
of Nasrallah.

2254
01:22:10,579 --> 01:22:12,979
This starts and it's it's really fascinating to

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01:22:12,979 --> 01:22:14,760
go back. It starts, in

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01:22:15,105 --> 01:22:16,225
1996

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01:22:16,225 --> 01:22:17,045
with Netanyahu,

2258
01:22:17,744 --> 01:22:19,284
who wrote a book called Fighting,

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01:22:19,664 --> 01:22:20,164
Terrorism.

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01:22:20,945 --> 01:22:23,605
And the thesis of the book is quite

2261
01:22:24,305 --> 01:22:24,805
straightforward

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01:22:25,105 --> 01:22:25,605
and

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01:22:25,985 --> 01:22:26,485
and

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01:22:27,119 --> 01:22:29,600
very dangerous. He says, you know, there are

2265
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:34,000
there's Hamas, there's Hezbollah. They oppose Israel. It's

2266
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,579
not good for us to fight them directly.

2267
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,179
That that won't work.

2268
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:41,359
What we need to do is topple the

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01:22:41,359 --> 01:22:41,859
governments

2270
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,335
that that back them. So what we need

2271
01:22:45,335 --> 01:22:48,534
is regime change throughout the Middle East. And

2272
01:22:48,534 --> 01:22:51,515
he actually gave a long list of seven

2273
01:22:51,574 --> 01:22:52,074
countries,

2274
01:22:52,694 --> 01:22:53,515
that included,

2275
01:22:54,135 --> 01:22:54,635
Syria,

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01:22:55,255 --> 01:22:55,755
Libya,

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01:22:56,534 --> 01:22:57,034
Iraq,

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01:22:57,679 --> 01:22:58,179
Iran,

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01:22:58,800 --> 01:22:59,300
Somalia,

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01:23:00,079 --> 01:23:01,699
Sudan, and Lebanon.

2281
01:23:02,319 --> 01:23:03,460
And systematically,

2282
01:23:05,039 --> 01:23:07,539
The United States has done Netanyahu's

2283
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:11,520
bidding for almost thirty years now, going to

2284
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,020
war

2285
01:23:12,425 --> 01:23:14,984
with every one of them except for the

2286
01:23:14,984 --> 01:23:16,685
big one, that Netanyahu

2287
01:23:17,064 --> 01:23:19,225
so much longs for, which is the war

2288
01:23:19,225 --> 01:23:22,284
directly between The United States and Iran.