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Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Joining me today

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again is Charlie Robinson from micro macroaggressions.

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I'm looking forward to hopefully making this a

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a regular occurrence. I really enjoy the conversations

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that we have and really just kinda breaking

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down all the madness that seems to go

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on. And jokingly, yesterday, we were talking about

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what we might discuss, and I sent I

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jokingly said, well, by tomorrow, there's probably gonna

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be an entirely new field of crazy things

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to discuss, and it just it seems like

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every day, that's how it is. So find

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the find Charlie Robinson to have an interesting

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view on a lot of this stuff, so

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let's have him on to discuss the madness

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of the world today. How are you, brother?

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Well, I'm fantastic, but you're correct that we

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just have to wait

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a full day, a full news cycle, and

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everything will,

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change. Everything that was important

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desperately important

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just a day ago now magically just fades

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away, and it's let's focus on what Trump

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said last night at the, event that he

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had with all where all the leftists lost

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their minds. You know, it's funny. I I

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didn't even I I purposely sort of boxed

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that out last night, and I haven't looked

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at it today. I bet you if I

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had, you're right. It's just all these different

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but you're I I can already see that's

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kinda consuming the conversation. It it really doesn't

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ever stop. It's just one. And I I

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think there's a very clear, like, engineered aspect

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of that, you know, to, like, overtake the

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conversation and hide some of the bigger things

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that never stops. It's like when you when

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when the media releases bad news or or

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corporations

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release bad news on Friday afternoons because they

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know it'll get buried by the weekend, you

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know that if they've got something that's that's

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unpopular,

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they're like, let's roll it out the day

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before. We'll let the media have it for

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a couple hours, and then we'll we'll pivot

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into the, you know, Trump's big address to

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the nation, and that will overshadow everything. Or,

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you know, we could or, you know, the

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missing $2,300,000,000,000

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and then $9.11 the next day. You know

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how that goes. Right. Right. All coincidence.

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So so if if if you have thoughts

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on on what happened since I haven't even

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looked into it at all, I'm curious to

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see if you have any thoughts on it.

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I did see that there was,

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a lot of hype beforehand about, like,

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I, you know, I I again, I'm actually

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gonna say very clearly this is all secondhand.

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Like, I didn't look I somebody had told

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me that there were reports, but it was

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through corporate media, partisan media, about how the

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democrats were gonna be making noise and trying

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to disrupt. And I'm like, that doesn't surprise

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me if that would make the but how

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childishly stupid. And if that actually happens so

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did you watch any of it? Did that

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happen? I did not watch it. I just

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saw some of the clips. I said there

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was some guy that made a made some

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sort of a ruckus, and they threw him

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out to Are they congressman?

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You know, I don't know who he was

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because he didn't look familiar to me. Okay.

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That doesn't mean anything, but but he he

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he he looked

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lost. He looked like somebody that, you know,

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shouldn't have been there. But,

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I guess they nada nada him, hey. Hey.

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Goodbye as they were throwing him out, which

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is kinda funny. Yeah.

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There was, you know, the the

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the typical

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unexpected,

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or or completely expected

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sour puss Democrats

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that that were Mhmm. Arms crossed, sitting down

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the whole time. I guess one of the

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things that they did was they brought out

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13 year old kid who had

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recovered from cancer

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and wanted to be a police officer, and

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they made a big thing about him. And

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then,

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the Democrats sat for it while everyone else

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stood up and clapped. And then,

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Nicole Wallace was on with Rachel Maddow, and

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they talked about, like, I hope this kid

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doesn't kill himself because of everyone's like, what?

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What? What are you talking about? It was

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very weird.

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They've lost their mind. If it's it's fun

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to watch them get exposed for but, you

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know, they they sell themselves, the let the

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hardcore left as being compassionate. We're just about

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the people, and and how dare you. We're

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standing up for the for the and that

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the first chance they get to show

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their their true colors that that it comes

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right out. There they there's no compassion there.

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And if you're outside of that, then they

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want you to die. You know? It's it's

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it's gross, but not not not too not

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too surprising.

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And I would say it's always not unique

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to the partisan left. I think I think

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the same exact dynamic. It's interesting, though. It's

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more like you're right. It's more about, like,

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you know, bleeding heart

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idea of the let with versus the rights

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more like, we're fighting for your freedom and

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and liberty. And neither of them are true

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in my opinion. It's all just about trying

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to control your life. But yeah. But that's

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interesting, though. Like, it's it's just sad to

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see. And, Gabby, should you give me your

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thought on this, of, you know, that this

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kind of, it's never the real picture on

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either side of it. It's always, like, this

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cartoonish, like like, I you and I could

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go through the many real gripes and concern

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and criminal actions of everybody in the in

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that room. And Right. Instead, that's about, like,

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you know, his racism, and it's about his

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you know, over here, it's about their woke

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policy. You know, it's just funny how it's

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like, man, there's so much real crime. And

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and do you think that shows that they're

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all choosing to omit that those stuff, or

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are they in the mindset that that's actually

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what matters and that would show me that

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they're all controlled by something else? I mean,

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how do you look at that? Yeah. I

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mean, if you're if we were gonna have

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a real honest conversation about the rampant criminality

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inside that room, everybody would get put up

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against the wall and get frisked. Right. You

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know what I mean? They're all in maybe

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maybe not Thomas Massie. I don't know. We'll

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see. Yeah. It's funny you say that, though.

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It's I'm, like, kind of going yes, but

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I I'm so pessimistic for government. I'm, like,

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I'm not gonna let myself have hope for

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that. I know. I know. I feel the

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same way. Like like, I I like him.

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I I wanna like him. I feel like

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I should like him, but I but I

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also remember, you know, doctor Ron Paul is

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that way too. I mean, he's the only

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guy who could I've seen him three different

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times out of Narco Polco, bring the house

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down, you know, by going up there. And

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you would normally think if we if I

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were to just read off the list, you

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know, hey, twenty years Republican in in congress,

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from Texas, we're gonna bring him up to

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the stage. You'd rightly get booed, of course,

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if you do. But it's doctor Ron Paul

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who is always consistent in his views and

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was and was

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spoken against the the things that that I

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think freedom loving people actually care about, sound

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money and get the government off my neck

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and things like that. But, I mean, they'll

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you know, pontificate about

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who's the most racist person inside that room

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or who doesn't

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wanna fight for our freedoms or some ridiculous

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Barnum statement like that. But if we wanted

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to actually

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get down to the criminality that's happening in

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there, that never gets really talked about. And

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that's that's a that's bipartisan decision. Like, they

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they Right. They but they know, like, if

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if I start pulling on this thread over

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here on that guy, it eventually will lead

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back to the person who's been giving me

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a bunch of money, and I don't really

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need that heat. And so let's just leave

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it alone. So Right. That's that's the that's

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the whole, you know,

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one nation or blackmail. Like, it it's all

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they're all mafiosos at this point is what

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it really seems like. And there's, like, it's

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kinda like the, the self enforcement. You know,

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that's kinda how I see it where, you

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know, that they're all there's a level allow

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level of level of criminality, but they actually

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mostly probably hate each other. But there's things

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they just know they won't touch on because

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then they can be held accountable too. And

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but, you know, there's been deviations in that.

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that, and I I tend to think it's

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from outside influence. But that we've seen those

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shifts from the last, like, three from Trump

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to Biden to Trump. We've seen some different

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shifts where, for example, both of them have

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done things to the you know, that Biden

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did something to Trump, and then Trump did

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something to Biden. Like, usually, the game has

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been, like, where we don't go after the

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previous guy because that means that you'll go

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after but we've seen some shifts in that

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way. And I just I don't really know

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what that means. I tend to think it's

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because

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it's, you know, it's always who benefits. Right?

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If you can see that neither side is

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benefiting where the government here isn't benefiting from

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it, you wonder who is and who's driving

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that. You know? I think there's a genuine

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components of Washington DC that I find to

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be genuine, but I think that there's a

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genuine hatred of Trump. I think a lot

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of these people view him as

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the guy who could come in and mess

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up their grift or start talking about he's

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just he's there's an unpredictable

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and I understand that there's there's there's script

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that, you know, a lot of it is

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scripted. But there is you know, he does

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kinda go off the script from time to

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time and start talking about things that makes

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people very nervous. And I think that there's

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a legitimate I don't think that the the

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Rachel Maddows of the world

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are faking it. I agree. The Joy Reid.

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I think they they legitimately despise, and they

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may have a variety of reasons for that.

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But I don't think that that part is

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theater. I think that maybe that we're gonna

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you know, I'm gonna you know, you'd be

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in jail,

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you know, locking up Hillary Clinton. I think

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that is theater when at the highest level.

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they Sorry. I hate it. You could add

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you could add to the same point though

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that p p probably means that, probably doesn't

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like them, but that was whether it was

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ever actually gonna happen was theater. You know?

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Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's just it's an interesting

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point because ultimately, you know, they it's the

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same point. It's the kind of, you know,

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I think they I think it's personal, you

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know, where by back and forth, there there

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are very clear political

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worldview differences between left and right. I I

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think it comes down to whether it's an

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Israeli control or technocracy or, you know, whatever

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you think or just the deep state, whatever

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is, like, the guiding force clearly is, you

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know,

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ultimately

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what they bow to. You know what I

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mean? Like, where it's like it's it's kinda

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like the great reset thing we saw with

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the world where my opinion is

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we saw a lockstep. We saw Russia, China,

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like,

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adversarial on the surface countries all go in

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the same direction and and act in unison.

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And so how do you miss that? You

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know? To to me, it's because all of

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them are like, okay. All of these tools

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will help me better control my own people,

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help me subjugate my people. And so we'll

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go in so far as we can use

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those tools, and we'll feign that we're going

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in these directions. But the moment that it

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goes against what we want, we'll probably you

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know, and we did see that to some

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degree. You know? And so that's what I

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really think it comes down to. They're all

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in line when it comes to control over

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your lives.

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Sure. Yeah. There's a lot of that a

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lot of that,

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top down authoritarianism

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that that these countries really love, and they

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would love an excuse to for for more

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of it. And if somebody like the WEF

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gives them the opportunity to to do that

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or the, you know, the World Health Organization

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says, well, listen. You can outsource this authoritarianism

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to us at the at the WHO, and

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we'll do it for you. They go, okay.

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Fine. I mean, as long as you control

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our people, I can live with that. And

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that but, like, you know,

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this the minute it becomes sort of detrimental

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to their their their personal their their their

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country's sort of nationalistic,

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needs, and it's like, well, you know, maybe

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I'm not gonna take part in all of

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this. I mean, because Russia as you said,

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Russia was was was deeply involved in the

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World Economic Forum. Then they're then, surprisingly,

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now they're the enemy, and everything that they

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do is, is is the worst thing you've

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ever seen in the world. So,

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it's it's funny how they can they come

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together

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from time to time. But, you know, I

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think George Carlin talked about this, you know,

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thirty years ago.

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There there isn't necessarily

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a need

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for, you know, people for a big meeting

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where they all get to get yeah. Sure.

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They have the the

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Davos and and they have, you know, they

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get together at the UN and and whatnot.

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But these people that are at the tops,

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they don't need to be told what's in

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their best interest. They know what's in their

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best interest, and they're willing to work with

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other countries as long as it supports what

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what's in inside their interest. So as far

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as, like, we're gonna all sit down, have

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a meeting, and talk about it in secret,

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sure, that does happen with Bilderbergs and and

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and these events that have been going on

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for seventy years. But it's it's also not

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completely necessary because at the highest levels, they

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understand what's in their best interest, and they'll

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they'll move accordingly.

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Yeah. Again, back to, like, the mafia point,

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you know, you can see, you know, there's

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different section what sell whatever you call it,

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families, you know, of different group. They don't

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act in in but they but they are

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times when they act for the betterment of

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the actual mafia, you know, dynamic. And, you

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know, and that's the whole self enforcement. Right?

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It's where you know, and this is what

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I see politicians as. Like, it's certainly possible

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that that is the mafia today. They just

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decide to go, hey. You guys gotta lock

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on this. I see what you're doing. Gonna

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put a suit on and act like I'm

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the you know? And the point is if

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somebody stands up and starts being too criminal,

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you know? Like, I often see Gavin Newsom

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playing that role where he's, like, takes things

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a little too far. Right? Stands up, like,

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does the thing before everyone's ready to do

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it. You know? And I argue I mean,

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I haven't seen any real pushback, but you

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would argue that was where they step in

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and take care of that person. You know?

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Some accidents, something happens, and then, oh, now

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we're back to normal. You know? It's like,

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it's still hypothetical, but I think that's how

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you see the the kind of self regulation

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around all this. Sure. Yeah. But so the

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the the Trump back to the Trump speech

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and discussion, I didn't watch it again. But

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what I tend to see from those left

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to right is it's usually just standing up

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and just kinda going, here's how we're supposed

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to say or what we this is how

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you're going to view what happens over the

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next year. Like, this is your talking point

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setup for how we're gonna see what we're

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gonna do. You know? And it's kind of

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like taking down the notes or really framing

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what happened already as the way that you're

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supposed to repeat it. And it's just how

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these games go for me, and so that's

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why it's it all seems like so much

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theater. But anything else out there before we

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get into some of the points that I

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think we're all seeing right now that that

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and maybe the ones that we've kinda already

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talked about it, you know, on in your

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mind, in your work and what you've been

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studying over the last week, two weeks. What's

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something that stands out to you right now

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that just is go ahead. I've been working

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you know, I've I'm I'm I'm writing a

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little bit about Trump right now for an

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episode, The The Good, The Bad, and The

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Orange. You know, there's just some things that

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are very Trumpian, you know, that I don't

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know that are necessarily

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going to happen, but it's it's just interesting

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to hear him when when he comes out

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and starts talking about, you know, like, the

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green one situation. He won't stop on Canada.

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He won't stop on the tariffs, and and

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and, you know, he keeps talking about this

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stuff. I don't know how much of that

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there's some good things that he's done. I'll

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I'll be honest. There's some good things. There's

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some really bad things he's done. And then

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there's some things that I just describe as

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the orange, which is it's hard to tell

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whether it's real, whether it's talk, whether he's

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whether this is a negotiating position that he's

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trying to create from the beginning where he's

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saying, you know, my starting position is I'm

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gonna slap massive tariffs on you, or

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if it's part of some, you know,

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grand

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economic transformation that's happening in the that's that's

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being set up to happen in the future,

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and we're just seeing these pieces that seem

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a bit disjointed and maybe over the next

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year or two, it'll come into focus a

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little bit more about what is what is

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he really doing talking about the gold in

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Fort Knox. It's a weird conversation that nobody

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was asking for necessarily. And now all of

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a sudden, they're talking about that. So I'm

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wondering a little bit more.

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I watched a great interview with Matt Smith,

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who is Doug Casey's podcast partner, and they

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were talking about

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the the role of gold moving forward and

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what's happening and how,

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and what Trump might be actually up to

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with devaluing the dollar. And and and and

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it's it was just a I I had

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it was such a great interview. I had

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to watch it twice. And and I just

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thought, god. You know? What if what if

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there is a much bigger play here that

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seems disjointed with Canada and Greenland and all

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this stuff? But but upon further review or

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once you have more information, it paints a

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different picture. So,

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I'm keeping an eye on him as as

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we all are. You know, I I have

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no

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I'm I have no emotional energy necessarily towards

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him one way or the other. I think

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he's a clown. I think he's a you

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know, he's in the World Wrestling

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Federation's

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Hall of Fame, you know, which is fake

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sports. He's got a star on the Hollywood

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Walkman. He's an actor.

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So where does the actor end and the

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authentic politician, if there's such a thing, begin?

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Or is there any? Or what is this

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whole thing? So it's it's it's he's a

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fascinating character to watch, but I don't get

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all I don't get triggered the way a

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lot of people

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on the left, especially on the left, but

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not limited to that, get by him and

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his behavior. It it feels like,

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you know, back to Carlin. You know, when

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you're born in this world, you get a

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ticket to the carnival. When you're born in

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America, you get a front row seat. So

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that's kinda how it feels sometimes when you're

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watching them. You just feel like you're watching

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the craziest show in the world.

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Yeah. It really does. And, you know, it's

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it's the interesting thing about the the well,

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you I mean, it's the orange. It's a

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funny way to frame that is that it's

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it's actually you know, it's I can't tell

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whether it's a a ploy, a plan, or

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it's sort of like they've lost control of

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their own fall you know what I mean?

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Like, we're essentially like, you see I've seen

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some examples of this where something starts as,

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like, a meme that's shared by, like, Insurrection

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Barbie or one of these, like, Elon sycophants

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that are constantly, you know, and then and

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then Elon captions it and goes interesting or,

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you know, whatever. So there's whatever. And then

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that gets captioned by Trump on True Social.

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And then all of a sudden, it's like

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it becomes something that's part of the conversation

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because it's become this momentum mover in the

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team sport republican side. And then all of

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a sudden, it's like, is that real? Like

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or was that a joke? And then now

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they're passing legislation, and it's like even the

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community is like, you're being trolled. It's like,

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they just passed some legislation about it. It's

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really weird. And so give me your thoughts

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on just that. Like, you think it's possible

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some of this is like they didn't mean

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for it to become real, and it just

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now there's, like, either feel like they have

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to or it said screw it. Do it

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anyway because they're gonna it's gonna make us

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popular. You know? Well, a prime example is

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that AI generated

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commercial well, I don't know what you would

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call it for the Trump Gaza. Mhmm. Where

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it was him with BB and they're sitting

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in their bathing suits out in the, you

517
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know, and and there's gold a gold Trump

518
00:16:45,950 --> 00:16:47,549
and all that. And you watch it and

519
00:16:47,549 --> 00:16:48,289
you go around.

520
00:16:48,830 --> 00:16:50,669
Yeah. You go, this is, a, the most

521
00:16:50,669 --> 00:16:53,625
disgusting thing I've seen, b, completely on brand

522
00:16:53,625 --> 00:16:54,365
for America,

523
00:16:54,745 --> 00:16:55,245
c

524
00:16:56,105 --> 00:16:58,825
c c, is this a a future? Are

525
00:16:58,825 --> 00:17:01,065
we is this predictive programming? Is this the

526
00:17:01,065 --> 00:17:02,745
direction they wanna go? And then you then

527
00:17:02,745 --> 00:17:05,170
you see that Trump is whatever, on Truth

528
00:17:05,170 --> 00:17:07,490
Social, re reposting it on Truth Social. And

529
00:17:07,490 --> 00:17:09,330
you go, okay. It's one thing if you're

530
00:17:09,410 --> 00:17:10,850
if it's just a bunch of guys that

531
00:17:10,850 --> 00:17:13,009
are goofing around are doing this. But when

532
00:17:13,009 --> 00:17:15,170
the president sees us and his first thought

533
00:17:15,170 --> 00:17:16,230
is, oh, yes.

534
00:17:16,825 --> 00:17:18,744
Everybody that follows me also needs to see

535
00:17:18,744 --> 00:17:20,424
this as well. This would be a good

536
00:17:20,424 --> 00:17:20,924
look.

537
00:17:21,225 --> 00:17:23,144
Then then I think, God, I mean, either

538
00:17:23,144 --> 00:17:26,265
you're getting the worst advice ever. You either

539
00:17:26,265 --> 00:17:28,585
or you truly believe this is a good

540
00:17:28,585 --> 00:17:29,460
thing, which is

541
00:17:30,019 --> 00:17:32,419
way more dangerous. Or they Or you're just

542
00:17:32,419 --> 00:17:32,919
trolling.

543
00:17:33,299 --> 00:17:35,700
And if you're just trolling people, I don't

544
00:17:35,700 --> 00:17:38,339
really understand the point because you're making yourself

545
00:17:38,339 --> 00:17:41,220
look like a bloodthirsty lunatic who wants to

546
00:17:41,220 --> 00:17:41,720
depopulate

547
00:17:42,115 --> 00:17:44,755
an entire segment of the population from a

548
00:17:44,755 --> 00:17:46,355
region in the Middle East. And and and

549
00:17:46,355 --> 00:17:47,954
I don't see how that could be good,

550
00:17:47,954 --> 00:17:49,634
except that, you know, as we know, he's

551
00:17:49,634 --> 00:17:51,015
he's completely and utterly

552
00:17:51,474 --> 00:17:52,674
compromised by the,

553
00:17:53,154 --> 00:17:55,714
Israelis. So Mhmm. So I I I don't

554
00:17:55,714 --> 00:17:57,255
know. That that to me was,

555
00:17:57,980 --> 00:17:59,580
boy, I mean, I was just sort of,

556
00:17:59,580 --> 00:18:00,080
like,

557
00:18:01,019 --> 00:18:01,680
I was

558
00:18:02,220 --> 00:18:03,420
you know, I hope the rest of the

559
00:18:03,420 --> 00:18:03,920
world

560
00:18:04,380 --> 00:18:07,820
doesn't see something like that and think, oh,

561
00:18:07,820 --> 00:18:10,015
this is how all of America thinks. Some

562
00:18:10,015 --> 00:18:11,315
of them. Because if they

563
00:18:11,615 --> 00:18:13,154
did, that would really be

564
00:18:13,855 --> 00:18:16,015
a stain on us. I mean, there's plenty

565
00:18:16,015 --> 00:18:17,855
to go around. Don't get me wrong. But

566
00:18:17,855 --> 00:18:18,595
but but

567
00:18:19,054 --> 00:18:20,355
if somebody in

568
00:18:21,214 --> 00:18:21,714
Lebanon

569
00:18:22,090 --> 00:18:23,610
sees that and they go, this is what

570
00:18:23,610 --> 00:18:25,789
you guys want. This is what America wants.

571
00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:27,289
It's like, no. No. No. That's what the

572
00:18:27,289 --> 00:18:30,330
American empire wants for sure. A %. That's

573
00:18:30,330 --> 00:18:32,430
what they want. But we, the people,

574
00:18:32,890 --> 00:18:35,065
we don't want that. Or at least the

575
00:18:35,065 --> 00:18:36,984
majority of us don't want that. And that's

576
00:18:36,984 --> 00:18:38,984
the frustration I feel with all this. It's

577
00:18:38,984 --> 00:18:41,464
like, we can be extremely clear about what

578
00:18:41,464 --> 00:18:43,944
we are, what we stand for as a

579
00:18:43,944 --> 00:18:45,384
group. I mean, as a country, I don't

580
00:18:45,384 --> 00:18:46,524
get all weepy about

581
00:18:47,490 --> 00:18:48,930
tile it yellow ribbon around the old oak

582
00:18:48,930 --> 00:18:50,930
tree or anything like that. But but still,

583
00:18:50,930 --> 00:18:52,690
as a people, we we should stand for

584
00:18:52,690 --> 00:18:54,769
something, and that's not it. And if the

585
00:18:54,769 --> 00:18:56,289
rest of the world thinks that that is

586
00:18:56,289 --> 00:18:58,690
what we're about, then no wonder we have

587
00:18:58,690 --> 00:19:00,690
such a negative reputation around the globe. No

588
00:19:00,690 --> 00:19:01,785
wonder people that are

589
00:19:02,505 --> 00:19:04,205
backpacking put Canadian flag

590
00:19:04,585 --> 00:19:06,664
patches on their backpack instead of American flag

591
00:19:06,664 --> 00:19:08,365
so they don't get messed with. So

592
00:19:08,664 --> 00:19:10,265
I I I see some of this and

593
00:19:10,265 --> 00:19:12,045
I think, well, you know, it's kinda funny,

594
00:19:12,664 --> 00:19:13,644
like, weird.

595
00:19:13,945 --> 00:19:14,605
But then

596
00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,759
I I also just wonder the power of

597
00:19:16,759 --> 00:19:19,559
social media. If it if for some people

598
00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:20,920
out there, they see this and they think

599
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,259
this is a representation of what America wants.

600
00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,259
It is not. It is a disgusting

601
00:19:25,559 --> 00:19:27,960
stain on us, but it is being it's

602
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:28,460
being

603
00:19:29,365 --> 00:19:30,664
reproduced and and,

604
00:19:30,964 --> 00:19:31,865
you know, retransmitted

605
00:19:33,125 --> 00:19:33,625
by

606
00:19:34,644 --> 00:19:36,724
by the president. And so it it it

607
00:19:36,724 --> 00:19:39,525
comes as almost like an official seal of

608
00:19:39,525 --> 00:19:41,365
approval on it, which is gross and and

609
00:19:41,365 --> 00:19:42,505
disgusting. But,

610
00:19:43,850 --> 00:19:45,609
so so, you know, I mean, I have

611
00:19:45,609 --> 00:19:47,529
I have big problems with the direction things

612
00:19:47,529 --> 00:19:49,130
are going. It's it's it's hard to tell

613
00:19:49,130 --> 00:19:50,890
what's real these days. And and, of course,

614
00:19:50,890 --> 00:19:53,769
also, as we move further in down the

615
00:19:53,769 --> 00:19:55,850
road towards technocracy when you start to have

616
00:19:55,850 --> 00:19:58,234
these deep fake videos or you have, you

617
00:19:58,234 --> 00:19:59,755
know, you everybody's voice. I mean, you and

618
00:19:59,755 --> 00:20:01,515
I have said enough on camera in in

619
00:20:01,595 --> 00:20:02,894
into a microphone that

620
00:20:03,355 --> 00:20:04,795
somebody can make us say in anything that

621
00:20:04,795 --> 00:20:07,275
we want. Like, that's the next phase where

622
00:20:07,275 --> 00:20:09,115
we get to a point where you don't

623
00:20:09,115 --> 00:20:10,875
know what to believe. And if you can

624
00:20:10,875 --> 00:20:12,890
get people to not believe their eyes, then

625
00:20:12,890 --> 00:20:14,029
you are in a real

626
00:20:14,490 --> 00:20:15,609
you got them by,

627
00:20:15,930 --> 00:20:17,549
you got them in a real bind.

628
00:20:17,930 --> 00:20:20,089
Yeah. Will Will Will and Casey, I think

629
00:20:20,089 --> 00:20:22,569
'67. Right? CIA director. When everything the American

630
00:20:22,569 --> 00:20:24,089
people believe is false, then our job is

631
00:20:24,089 --> 00:20:25,289
complete, and that is real. I mean, I

632
00:20:25,289 --> 00:20:27,375
verified myself that that's actually, you know anyway,

633
00:20:27,375 --> 00:20:28,894
that's it's I think this is the game.

634
00:20:28,894 --> 00:20:30,414
But back at the trolling port, it's interesting

635
00:20:30,414 --> 00:20:32,974
because I mean, so he he shares it.

636
00:20:32,974 --> 00:20:34,255
Right? And so even if it's like, that's

637
00:20:34,255 --> 00:20:35,855
the game. Well, he's just being funny or

638
00:20:35,855 --> 00:20:37,855
trolling. Well, it's irrelevant. You don't know that

639
00:20:37,855 --> 00:20:39,455
is the point. You're assuming that to make

640
00:20:39,455 --> 00:20:41,615
that make sense, but it's still him going

641
00:20:41,615 --> 00:20:43,549
look at this. You know? And so to

642
00:20:43,769 --> 00:20:46,049
me, that only serves one entity here, Israel.

643
00:20:46,049 --> 00:20:47,690
I mean, that that's what that showed. That

644
00:20:47,690 --> 00:20:50,329
is for Israel's benefit at the expense to

645
00:20:50,329 --> 00:20:52,409
the detriment of Trump and the American people.

646
00:20:52,409 --> 00:20:53,929
I mean, that's just everywhere you look. But

647
00:20:53,929 --> 00:20:55,289
so the is it trolling? Right? Are you

648
00:20:55,369 --> 00:20:57,345
is your I mean, I I would argue

649
00:20:57,345 --> 00:20:58,785
a little bit the opposite. You I would

650
00:20:58,785 --> 00:21:00,384
just say there's a benefit to that. I

651
00:21:00,384 --> 00:21:01,984
agree with you entirely that it's ridiculous and

652
00:21:01,984 --> 00:21:02,884
shouldn't be happening,

653
00:21:03,265 --> 00:21:05,025
but it you know, I could I could

654
00:21:05,025 --> 00:21:06,785
at least acknowledge and understand that you could

655
00:21:06,785 --> 00:21:09,089
use that in attack a, you know, tact

656
00:21:09,329 --> 00:21:11,009
tactical way. You know? Like, put that out

657
00:21:11,009 --> 00:21:12,609
in order to get certain people to react

658
00:21:12,609 --> 00:21:13,970
to them. You know? And but it's not

659
00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:16,049
the point is it's not in anybody's interest

660
00:21:16,049 --> 00:21:17,509
other than, you know,

661
00:21:17,890 --> 00:21:20,289
I would say the the Israeli government or

662
00:21:20,289 --> 00:21:21,650
people that wanna see that, which would be

663
00:21:21,650 --> 00:21:23,924
Trump's administration and building out Gaza and, you

664
00:21:24,325 --> 00:21:25,684
and that because that's what they're planning to

665
00:21:25,684 --> 00:21:27,205
do. But but the other point I thought

666
00:21:27,205 --> 00:21:28,244
was interesting was,

667
00:21:28,644 --> 00:21:31,365
the like Fort Knox, you mentioned. Right? Where

668
00:21:31,365 --> 00:21:33,125
the timing for that for me was interesting

669
00:21:33,125 --> 00:21:34,164
because I don't know if you saw the

670
00:21:34,164 --> 00:21:34,664
Zeldin,

671
00:21:35,285 --> 00:21:37,125
weird it was it was actually a video

672
00:21:37,125 --> 00:21:38,789
that he followed up and made clear about,

673
00:21:38,789 --> 00:21:40,549
but this video went around where he was

674
00:21:40,549 --> 00:21:42,549
referencing the Titanic and gold bars. I'm sure

675
00:21:42,549 --> 00:21:44,549
you probably saw that. Right? No. I didn't.

676
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:46,549
Well, basically, he said that, you know, that

677
00:21:46,549 --> 00:21:48,630
they said the Biden administration, they were they

678
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:50,630
were throwing up throwing gold bars off the

679
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:53,174
Titanic. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm

680
00:21:53,174 --> 00:21:55,174
like, okay. Pretty sure we all would understand

681
00:21:55,174 --> 00:21:57,015
that's an analogy. Pretty sure the Titanic okay.

682
00:21:57,015 --> 00:21:58,535
But that that seems self evident to me.

683
00:21:58,535 --> 00:22:00,214
Alex Jones put put out a video saying

684
00:22:00,214 --> 00:22:01,575
that the he's like, oh, look. That's real.

685
00:22:01,575 --> 00:22:03,015
They're talking about real gold bars. I swear

686
00:22:03,015 --> 00:22:04,140
to god. I covered it on the show.

687
00:22:04,140 --> 00:22:06,299
Out out Zeldin followed up with a video

688
00:22:06,299 --> 00:22:07,820
on the EPA that said that maybe made

689
00:22:07,820 --> 00:22:09,660
it clear. We're just talking about tax dollars.

690
00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:11,660
It's an analogy. So my point was that

691
00:22:11,660 --> 00:22:13,259
kind of happened. And then right on the

692
00:22:13,259 --> 00:22:14,700
tail of that, I see this Fort Knox

693
00:22:14,700 --> 00:22:16,380
conversation spin out. I just thought that was

694
00:22:16,380 --> 00:22:18,059
interesting timing, and I think that's kinda what

695
00:22:18,059 --> 00:22:20,845
I'm talking about where these these, like, fake

696
00:22:20,845 --> 00:22:22,845
conversations that we've seen spin around in that

697
00:22:22,845 --> 00:22:23,744
exact sphere

698
00:22:24,125 --> 00:22:25,964
almost every time, the fog, the drones. I

699
00:22:25,964 --> 00:22:28,684
mean, many of them had new narratives every

700
00:22:28,684 --> 00:22:30,605
day that their sources confirmed what the drones

701
00:22:30,605 --> 00:22:32,045
were that never panned out. You know? It's

702
00:22:32,045 --> 00:22:33,279
like that kind of thing. But I think

703
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:34,720
that that's what happens. Then it becomes, like,

704
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:35,460
this momentum

705
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,079
to keep that going, but also to deviate

706
00:22:38,079 --> 00:22:39,359
from things that were just proven to be

707
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:40,960
false. And so but I what I wanted

708
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:42,400
to get to on that was you made

709
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:43,920
a point something popped to my mind that's

710
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:46,000
very interesting about the possibility of that gold.

711
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:47,974
Right? What if that's all built in the

712
00:22:47,974 --> 00:22:49,274
idea to, like,

713
00:22:49,575 --> 00:22:51,575
build the idea that it's not there, even

714
00:22:51,575 --> 00:22:53,015
though maybe it is, in order for them

715
00:22:53,015 --> 00:22:55,255
to essentially get rid of the gold? Like,

716
00:22:55,255 --> 00:22:56,694
it's I think it's important right now for

717
00:22:56,694 --> 00:22:57,434
them to

718
00:22:57,734 --> 00:22:58,234
remove

719
00:22:58,809 --> 00:23:00,809
sound money from the conversation if we're dealing

720
00:23:00,809 --> 00:23:02,250
with a new digital currency. What are your

721
00:23:02,250 --> 00:23:03,710
thoughts on that? Just as a hypothetical.

722
00:23:04,809 --> 00:23:07,130
It they definitely want to move away from

723
00:23:07,130 --> 00:23:07,869
sound money.

724
00:23:08,650 --> 00:23:11,470
They they have, you know, they've been busted.

725
00:23:11,529 --> 00:23:13,049
They when I say they. I mean, the

726
00:23:13,049 --> 00:23:15,365
the the big banks The hierarchies.

727
00:23:15,664 --> 00:23:17,424
Financed by the the the government. They've been

728
00:23:17,424 --> 00:23:18,884
busted rigging marketplaces

729
00:23:19,184 --> 00:23:21,904
for years and years, shorting paper silver into

730
00:23:21,904 --> 00:23:23,984
the market, shorting paper gold into the market

731
00:23:23,984 --> 00:23:26,305
Friday afternoon. Here it comes. Boom. Get that

732
00:23:26,305 --> 00:23:28,359
price down. So they've, and they've been busted.

733
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:31,500
They've been, they've manipulated the LIBOR, the COMEX,

734
00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:33,880
Forex. They've all been found guilty for this.

735
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,640
So this is, this has been going on

736
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,980
for a long time. The idea that they,

737
00:23:38,519 --> 00:23:41,339
that a, that a country United States

738
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:42,859
that runs a

739
00:23:43,535 --> 00:23:45,375
federal reserve printing press. I just have an

740
00:23:45,375 --> 00:23:48,335
episode out today for macro aggressions called The

741
00:23:48,335 --> 00:23:50,414
House Always Wins on Jekyll Island, and it

742
00:23:50,414 --> 00:23:52,494
was talking about colonel Mandel House and and

743
00:23:52,494 --> 00:23:54,815
how he was involved with Woodrow Wilson getting

744
00:23:54,815 --> 00:23:58,019
the, the Federal Reserve created. And and and

745
00:23:58,099 --> 00:23:59,539
you look back on that, you think, oh

746
00:23:59,539 --> 00:24:01,859
my god. I mean, how different this planet

747
00:24:01,859 --> 00:24:03,779
would be if it wasn't for central banking.

748
00:24:03,779 --> 00:24:05,059
I mean, it just would it just it's

749
00:24:05,059 --> 00:24:07,299
a stain on humanity, and it it's crippled

750
00:24:07,299 --> 00:24:09,700
us for the last hundred plus years because

751
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:12,515
of it. And, this is what empires do.

752
00:24:12,515 --> 00:24:13,255
They despise

753
00:24:13,715 --> 00:24:15,315
that, you know, they they need to if

754
00:24:15,315 --> 00:24:17,234
you've got the magic the goose that lays

755
00:24:17,234 --> 00:24:19,315
the golden eggs and you can print money

756
00:24:19,315 --> 00:24:20,914
all day long, you wanna keep that thing

757
00:24:20,914 --> 00:24:22,595
going for as long as you can. And

758
00:24:22,595 --> 00:24:25,580
gold represents a threat to it. Silver represents

759
00:24:25,580 --> 00:24:27,259
a threat to it as well. Not that

760
00:24:27,259 --> 00:24:28,380
I think that we're gonna go to a

761
00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:30,779
silverback currency, but you but, you know, it's

762
00:24:30,779 --> 00:24:32,000
it's tangible,

763
00:24:33,580 --> 00:24:35,660
asset that doesn't have counterparty risk to it.

764
00:24:35,660 --> 00:24:36,859
So if you if I own it, I

765
00:24:36,859 --> 00:24:38,971
don't need I don't need it to go

766
00:24:39,229 --> 00:24:41,291
for me to have it go up, I

767
00:24:41,291 --> 00:24:43,611
don't need you to for it to go

768
00:24:43,611 --> 00:24:46,188
down on you. It's just it's it is

769
00:24:46,188 --> 00:24:48,250
what it is. It's your your own your

770
00:24:48,250 --> 00:24:50,312
own asset that you can store away. And

771
00:24:50,312 --> 00:24:52,374
it reminded me of the times when they

772
00:24:52,374 --> 00:24:54,730
confiscated gold. When when they sent the there

773
00:24:54,730 --> 00:24:56,349
was a it wasn't just, like,

774
00:24:56,730 --> 00:24:58,250
for a month or anything. It was, like,

775
00:24:58,250 --> 00:25:00,809
for thirty years. Mhmm. You could not own

776
00:25:00,809 --> 00:25:02,269
gold in The United States.

777
00:25:02,650 --> 00:25:03,130
And,

778
00:25:03,529 --> 00:25:05,769
and having it on a gold backed current

779
00:25:05,769 --> 00:25:07,769
system and having Nixon take us off of

780
00:25:07,769 --> 00:25:09,934
that and peg it to oil and all

781
00:25:09,934 --> 00:25:12,914
of the geopolitics surrounding that. They've been manipulating

782
00:25:13,134 --> 00:25:14,894
this for a very long time. The idea

783
00:25:14,894 --> 00:25:16,975
that we have gold in Fort Knox, maybe

784
00:25:16,975 --> 00:25:18,595
we do, maybe we don't, but

785
00:25:18,975 --> 00:25:21,295
the government has has no interest in in

786
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,359
should theoretically have no interest in exploring that

787
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:26,059
if they're gonna try and keep this fiat

788
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,279
carnival game going further and further. And as

789
00:25:30,279 --> 00:25:32,460
we move into, as you mentioned, the digital

790
00:25:32,519 --> 00:25:35,384
version of it, central bank digital currencies or

791
00:25:35,384 --> 00:25:37,785
stable coins that are programmable or however it

792
00:25:37,785 --> 00:25:38,285
looks,

793
00:25:40,265 --> 00:25:42,265
they most definitely don't want it backed by

794
00:25:42,265 --> 00:25:44,045
anything other than than

795
00:25:44,345 --> 00:25:46,025
a promise by the government, which is what

796
00:25:46,025 --> 00:25:47,609
it's always been back. I mean, I guess,

797
00:25:47,609 --> 00:25:49,130
it it at some point, it was backed

798
00:25:49,130 --> 00:25:50,830
by gold, but then was it really,

799
00:25:52,009 --> 00:25:52,589
you know,

800
00:25:53,130 --> 00:25:55,930
they they confiscated gold. So it's it's hard

801
00:25:55,930 --> 00:25:58,089
to, it's it's hard to say what

802
00:25:58,410 --> 00:26:00,570
how The United States is going to move

803
00:26:00,570 --> 00:26:01,470
forward, but

804
00:26:02,125 --> 00:26:03,664
I my assumption is

805
00:26:04,044 --> 00:26:06,224
if it's if it's sound money,

806
00:26:06,525 --> 00:26:08,384
they have no use for it because

807
00:26:08,845 --> 00:26:09,904
they are

808
00:26:10,444 --> 00:26:11,585
interested in,

809
00:26:12,204 --> 00:26:15,105
this fiat scam, which which gives them unlimited

810
00:26:15,164 --> 00:26:17,250
control of the printing press, and which was

811
00:26:17,250 --> 00:26:19,509
one thing when it was just, like, dumb

812
00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:21,490
dollar bill federal reserve notes that you stick

813
00:26:21,490 --> 00:26:22,789
in your wallet. But now

814
00:26:23,410 --> 00:26:24,390
if it's programmable

815
00:26:25,730 --> 00:26:27,330
and it's trackable and it's,

816
00:26:28,130 --> 00:26:29,809
measurable and they can turn it off or

817
00:26:29,809 --> 00:26:31,250
they can set it to expire, they can

818
00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:32,744
make it so that it doesn't work fifteen

819
00:26:32,744 --> 00:26:34,505
minutes outside of your city or whatever they

820
00:26:34,505 --> 00:26:37,005
wanna do with it. That is

821
00:26:37,384 --> 00:26:38,825
I I've sort of been saying this for

822
00:26:38,825 --> 00:26:40,265
a while that that is the hill to

823
00:26:40,265 --> 00:26:41,944
die on because once you get into a

824
00:26:41,944 --> 00:26:42,845
world where

825
00:26:43,464 --> 00:26:45,644
your money is is controlled,

826
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,059
you know, directly

827
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,460
daily, minute by minute, surveilled

828
00:26:50,919 --> 00:26:53,319
by the state, then you are in a

829
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:55,659
position where you are a surf,

830
00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:58,200
working on the plantation, and you will never

831
00:26:58,359 --> 00:26:59,960
you'll you'll never be able to save when

832
00:26:59,960 --> 00:27:01,715
they say, you know, you'll own nothing and

833
00:27:01,715 --> 00:27:03,555
you'll be happy. Yeah. You'll own nothing because

834
00:27:03,555 --> 00:27:05,414
you'll never be able to save for anything

835
00:27:05,475 --> 00:27:08,035
because your your CBDC or your stable coin

836
00:27:08,035 --> 00:27:10,674
or whatever will be evaporating in your account

837
00:27:10,674 --> 00:27:12,515
or it'll be set to, it'll be set

838
00:27:12,515 --> 00:27:14,490
to expire because, hey, we got bad. We

839
00:27:14,490 --> 00:27:16,250
got really bad Christmas numbers. They just came

840
00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:18,089
in, and, you know, sales were down. So

841
00:27:18,089 --> 00:27:20,170
get to spending, you know, you please get

842
00:27:20,250 --> 00:27:23,849
we're gonna make 30% of your CBDCs disappear

843
00:27:23,849 --> 00:27:25,289
in the next ninety days if you don't

844
00:27:25,289 --> 00:27:26,809
get to spending. So, you know, you can

845
00:27:26,809 --> 00:27:29,634
see you can we can extrapolate out how

846
00:27:29,634 --> 00:27:32,274
diabolical this could get if they have control

847
00:27:32,274 --> 00:27:34,454
of our money in Yeah. In this sense.

848
00:27:34,674 --> 00:27:36,355
And as you well know, the the, you

849
00:27:36,355 --> 00:27:38,994
know, CBDC is very concerning. But what is

850
00:27:38,994 --> 00:27:41,234
actually way more concerning, which just seems the

851
00:27:41,234 --> 00:27:43,319
direction they're going is the stable coin kind

852
00:27:43,319 --> 00:27:45,159
of Tether dynamic. And that that's what seems

853
00:27:45,159 --> 00:27:47,179
to be the direction and people are fixated

854
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:48,759
rightly so. This is how this game usually

855
00:27:48,759 --> 00:27:50,759
is played on what Trump's saying will never

856
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:52,359
allow us CBDC. Like, that's the end of

857
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,380
the conversation, and that that's very concerning.

858
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,119
In in oh, go ahead. Do you have

859
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:56,700
a point?

860
00:27:57,285 --> 00:27:59,045
No. That that is that's exactly it. I

861
00:27:59,045 --> 00:28:00,184
mean, in in right.

862
00:28:00,485 --> 00:28:02,085
There's still not enough people that are paying

863
00:28:02,085 --> 00:28:04,565
attention to CBDCs for my liking, but but

864
00:28:04,565 --> 00:28:05,625
even if they are,

865
00:28:06,244 --> 00:28:07,625
yeah. I hope they don't get,

866
00:28:08,244 --> 00:28:11,144
that head fake by Trump saying that that,

867
00:28:11,410 --> 00:28:13,829
you know, CBDCs will never happen.

868
00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:16,049
Yes. Let's say let's just say that he

869
00:28:16,049 --> 00:28:19,009
keeps that promise. Okay. Fine. Mhmm. But what

870
00:28:19,009 --> 00:28:21,250
else is there? There there's there are other

871
00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:23,009
ways to do that, whether it's a Tether

872
00:28:23,009 --> 00:28:25,109
stable coin, whether it's USDT,

873
00:28:25,410 --> 00:28:26,150
whether it's

874
00:28:27,265 --> 00:28:29,744
whether it's Bank of America coin or whatever

875
00:28:29,984 --> 00:28:33,585
Yeah. Cargo coin or whatever. I mean, as

876
00:28:33,585 --> 00:28:35,585
you can see, when it when it comes

877
00:28:35,585 --> 00:28:36,484
to, like, certain

878
00:28:37,345 --> 00:28:39,984
blockchains like Solana or whatever, you can build

879
00:28:39,984 --> 00:28:41,400
all kinds of things on it. You know,

880
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,240
you can it it an idiot in his

881
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:44,920
garage can put together a coin in the

882
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:45,660
next day

883
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,640
and launch it. So if they can do

884
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:49,240
it, the banks can do it. So it's

885
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:51,320
it's important for us to not to not

886
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,400
get distracted, also not get cut off cut

887
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,859
off guard with the

888
00:28:55,204 --> 00:28:57,464
terminology too, central bank digital currencies,

889
00:28:58,085 --> 00:28:58,565
and,

890
00:28:58,964 --> 00:29:01,045
and keep our eyes on any sort of

891
00:29:01,045 --> 00:29:01,545
programmable

892
00:29:02,005 --> 00:29:03,625
if the government is enthusiastically

893
00:29:04,404 --> 00:29:06,964
supporting it, it's probably not gonna be the

894
00:29:06,964 --> 00:29:08,950
best for you. It was just Yeah. I

895
00:29:08,950 --> 00:29:10,869
agree. The problem is people act like only

896
00:29:10,869 --> 00:29:12,869
half of any moment is the government. Right?

897
00:29:12,869 --> 00:29:14,390
It's like, no. It's all of it. Right?

898
00:29:14,390 --> 00:29:15,950
Right now, we're fighting the government. They point

899
00:29:15,950 --> 00:29:17,590
it to Democrats. We're the Democrats. When we're

900
00:29:17,590 --> 00:29:19,029
fighting, you know, we're the government trying to

901
00:29:19,029 --> 00:29:20,150
fight. You know, it's it's just it's an

902
00:29:20,150 --> 00:29:21,750
illusion. That's the point as always. It's all

903
00:29:21,750 --> 00:29:23,289
of them, and I agree with you completely.

904
00:29:23,414 --> 00:29:25,414
But see, back to the gold, it's interesting

905
00:29:25,414 --> 00:29:26,695
because, you know, it seems as if they're

906
00:29:26,695 --> 00:29:29,414
setting up this this this conversation based on

907
00:29:29,414 --> 00:29:31,734
on nothing, essentially. Like, is it actually there?

908
00:29:31,734 --> 00:29:33,174
Now, but you as you probably know, that's

909
00:29:33,174 --> 00:29:34,535
been something that's been floated over the you

910
00:29:34,535 --> 00:29:36,375
know, a while in the independent media field

911
00:29:36,375 --> 00:29:37,410
for a long time. Like, is it just

912
00:29:37,490 --> 00:29:39,570
was it tungsten just with plated gold? Like,

913
00:29:39,570 --> 00:29:41,970
that that conspiracy theory or theory has been

914
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:43,650
floated in the past. And so why why

915
00:29:43,650 --> 00:29:45,009
that popped up? I kinda think it was

916
00:29:45,009 --> 00:29:47,590
on the momentum of that conversation. Either way,

917
00:29:47,809 --> 00:29:50,065
it's being built on the unknown. So why

918
00:29:50,065 --> 00:29:51,424
why the hype and the momentum in the

919
00:29:51,424 --> 00:29:53,184
in the field? And so maybe they're building

920
00:29:53,184 --> 00:29:55,184
towards, like, the argument that it's not there

921
00:29:55,184 --> 00:29:56,625
whether we get that proven or not, which

922
00:29:56,625 --> 00:29:57,664
seems to be kind of the way this

923
00:29:57,664 --> 00:29:59,184
all is going. So then that sets up

924
00:29:59,184 --> 00:30:01,025
the idea of why this is necessary or

925
00:30:01,025 --> 00:30:01,525
rather

926
00:30:02,144 --> 00:30:02,805
a new,

927
00:30:03,820 --> 00:30:05,100
you know, what it will be now pegged

928
00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:06,299
to. Right? So you made a good point

929
00:30:06,299 --> 00:30:08,539
there. So gold was what it was. Then

930
00:30:08,539 --> 00:30:10,220
it didn't just go to nothing fiat, which

931
00:30:10,220 --> 00:30:11,820
is really ultimately how it's used, but it's

932
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:14,380
pegged to the oil dynamic. Right? So what

933
00:30:14,380 --> 00:30:16,275
will this new thing be pegged to? The

934
00:30:16,515 --> 00:30:17,875
argument doesn't seem to be made as if

935
00:30:17,875 --> 00:30:19,555
it's necessary, but right now, what are they

936
00:30:19,555 --> 00:30:21,974
talking about setting up? A strategic reserve,

937
00:30:22,355 --> 00:30:24,115
right, of the crypto curse. So I that

938
00:30:24,115 --> 00:30:25,555
could very well be its own little reserve,

939
00:30:25,555 --> 00:30:26,835
or it could be what they decide to

940
00:30:26,835 --> 00:30:28,835
peg the new kind of system to. I

941
00:30:28,835 --> 00:30:30,480
would see that making sense. And so this

942
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,599
brings me to the point you just made,

943
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:33,059
which I think is really interesting.

944
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,680
This is this is happening right now. US

945
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:37,920
Marshals Services can't say how much crypto it

946
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:40,960
holds, complicating Bitcoin reserve plan. Now you probably

947
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,079
already noticed, and let me know if you

948
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:43,759
have any insight on this, that Trump tweeted

949
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:46,375
out about how XRP, ADA, and SOL will

950
00:30:46,375 --> 00:30:48,934
be good for the reserve. Didn't mention Bitcoin,

951
00:30:48,934 --> 00:30:50,214
but that doesn't mean he's not going to

952
00:30:50,214 --> 00:30:51,414
include it. Did you have any thoughts on

953
00:30:51,414 --> 00:30:53,095
that one part that Yeah. Bitcoin will be

954
00:30:53,095 --> 00:30:55,335
included? Yeah. Well, it seems like somebody in

955
00:30:55,335 --> 00:30:56,934
his circle got to him because he had

956
00:30:56,934 --> 00:30:58,615
to he tweeted out a second tweet after

957
00:30:58,615 --> 00:31:01,970
that saying, oh, oh, and Bitcoin and Ethereum

958
00:31:02,110 --> 00:31:02,769
will be,

959
00:31:03,309 --> 00:31:05,470
in there too. We love them. You know,

960
00:31:05,470 --> 00:31:07,390
that should go without saying something like that.

961
00:31:07,390 --> 00:31:09,309
Well, it doesn't go without saying. You need

962
00:31:09,309 --> 00:31:11,470
to sort of mention that when you're talking

963
00:31:11,470 --> 00:31:13,890
about holding shit coins for for a strategic

964
00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:14,450
reserve.

965
00:31:14,875 --> 00:31:16,794
And and the problem, I think, with with

966
00:31:16,794 --> 00:31:17,294
with,

967
00:31:17,835 --> 00:31:21,194
you know, the differentiation between Bitcoin and the

968
00:31:21,194 --> 00:31:22,954
other coins is that Bitcoin doesn't have a

969
00:31:22,954 --> 00:31:24,794
CEO that you who who can go lobby

970
00:31:24,794 --> 00:31:26,554
them for for I mean, there's plenty of

971
00:31:26,554 --> 00:31:28,409
people that love Bitcoin that can that and

972
00:31:28,409 --> 00:31:30,169
feel the need to lobby the government on

973
00:31:30,169 --> 00:31:31,869
their behalf, but there's no there's

974
00:31:32,329 --> 00:31:35,389
no Satoshi CEO who's who's making the decisions,

975
00:31:35,450 --> 00:31:38,569
or there's no Vitaly Buterin who's who rolls

976
00:31:38,569 --> 00:31:40,889
back the chain, you know, several years ago

977
00:31:40,889 --> 00:31:42,909
to unwind some some

978
00:31:43,835 --> 00:31:45,515
stealing that happened on there. Like, once you

979
00:31:45,515 --> 00:31:46,795
see all that, you go, oh, wait. What

980
00:31:46,795 --> 00:31:48,394
are we doing here? This is this is

981
00:31:48,394 --> 00:31:50,474
this this is just as is,

982
00:31:51,595 --> 00:31:52,815
was just as compromiseable

983
00:31:53,275 --> 00:31:56,075
as the federal reserve game, maybe even easier

984
00:31:56,075 --> 00:31:57,295
now because it's digital.

985
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,799
And so I I have big I have,

986
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,359
you know look. I I like Bitcoin. I

987
00:32:02,359 --> 00:32:04,940
have Bitcoin. I want Bitcoin to do well.

988
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:07,339
I don't love the government loving it, though.

989
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,160
That's sort of the problem. Like, I liked

990
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,400
it because it's decentralized. And when you pull

991
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,118
it in the hands of, say, even if

992
00:32:13,118 --> 00:32:13,724
it's Michael Saylor

993
00:32:14,184 --> 00:32:15,164
with MicroStrategy

994
00:32:16,105 --> 00:32:18,264
or or or it's the government, when it's

995
00:32:18,264 --> 00:32:20,044
pulling in the hands of of

996
00:32:20,424 --> 00:32:21,325
certain groups,

997
00:32:22,825 --> 00:32:25,625
that kind of is antithetical to what Bitcoin

998
00:32:25,625 --> 00:32:27,865
is all about. It Bitcoin is I'd rather

999
00:32:27,865 --> 00:32:30,000
the people have control of it and have

1000
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,160
more of it than the government. I'd I'd

1001
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,400
like the US government to like Bitcoin, like,

1002
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,640
about ten years from now. Once everyone else

1003
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,320
has had a chance to sort of get

1004
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,000
get get their hands on it. And,

1005
00:32:41,125 --> 00:32:42,964
so I get very nervous when the government

1006
00:32:42,964 --> 00:32:44,744
is is involved with anything,

1007
00:32:45,605 --> 00:32:47,204
especially when it has to do with money

1008
00:32:47,204 --> 00:32:48,724
because you know that they're just looking for

1009
00:32:48,724 --> 00:32:50,644
a way to to to, you know, can

1010
00:32:50,644 --> 00:32:52,644
we can we can we pump it up

1011
00:32:52,644 --> 00:32:54,565
and then dump it? Can we crash it?

1012
00:32:54,565 --> 00:32:56,005
Can we have all our guys to you

1013
00:32:56,005 --> 00:32:58,190
know, can we have BlackRock get involved and

1014
00:32:58,190 --> 00:33:01,069
pool couple hundred thousand coins in in in

1015
00:33:01,069 --> 00:33:02,289
their, iBit?

1016
00:33:02,909 --> 00:33:05,309
Can we can we centralize it into the

1017
00:33:05,309 --> 00:33:07,069
hands of a of a of a, you

1018
00:33:07,069 --> 00:33:09,964
know, some sort of Bitcoin strategic reserve. It

1019
00:33:09,964 --> 00:33:12,304
all sounds it's probably good for the price,

1020
00:33:12,365 --> 00:33:13,644
of course, when you have a when you

1021
00:33:13,644 --> 00:33:15,164
have a buyer like that and you start

1022
00:33:15,164 --> 00:33:16,065
to get into this

1023
00:33:16,365 --> 00:33:18,684
game theory of, like, well, if if The

1024
00:33:18,684 --> 00:33:20,605
United States is announcing that they're gonna be

1025
00:33:20,605 --> 00:33:22,924
buying a bunch of Bitcoin and you're some

1026
00:33:22,924 --> 00:33:23,424
obscure

1027
00:33:24,039 --> 00:33:26,279
country out there and you're you you might

1028
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:27,880
think, well, maybe I should front run them.

1029
00:33:27,880 --> 00:33:29,240
You know, maybe I should start getting some

1030
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,240
before they, you know, while they're working out

1031
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,039
all the details, maybe maybe the small African

1032
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,815
nation should should start buying some more or

1033
00:33:36,815 --> 00:33:38,494
or whatever. And you then you can see

1034
00:33:38,494 --> 00:33:41,474
it spiral into a huge price price appreciation,

1035
00:33:41,694 --> 00:33:44,255
but that, of course, again, it makes me

1036
00:33:44,255 --> 00:33:45,775
nervous when you start to see things like

1037
00:33:45,775 --> 00:33:47,555
that when the government's involved in

1038
00:33:47,934 --> 00:33:50,174
buying and holding. But I it doesn't ultimately,

1039
00:33:50,174 --> 00:33:51,775
it doesn't matter what I think about it

1040
00:33:51,775 --> 00:33:53,589
because the cat's out of the bag, and

1041
00:33:53,589 --> 00:33:55,910
the government now knows about Bitcoin, and they've

1042
00:33:55,910 --> 00:33:57,509
been fighting it for a long time. And

1043
00:33:57,509 --> 00:33:59,669
now I think they're they're this point where

1044
00:33:59,669 --> 00:34:01,269
they've had to realize that they're just going

1045
00:34:01,269 --> 00:34:03,109
to accept it for what it is. But

1046
00:34:03,109 --> 00:34:04,950
I don't I don't love the other,

1047
00:34:05,724 --> 00:34:07,644
cryptos being added to it because I don't

1048
00:34:07,644 --> 00:34:09,565
find that they're not on the same level

1049
00:34:09,565 --> 00:34:11,804
as Bitcoin. They're they're much different in terms

1050
00:34:11,804 --> 00:34:13,885
of just the overall structure of the coin.

1051
00:34:13,885 --> 00:34:15,105
The fact that there is

1052
00:34:15,405 --> 00:34:17,164
somebody that you can go knock on the

1053
00:34:17,164 --> 00:34:19,244
door at Cardano and say, like, hey, man.

1054
00:34:19,244 --> 00:34:20,144
You know, like,

1055
00:34:20,559 --> 00:34:22,400
we're the we're the FBI. We need to

1056
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,199
talk to you. Like, that's a problem, you

1057
00:34:25,199 --> 00:34:26,639
know, when you when you can do that.

1058
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,279
So it it'll it'll it'll be something interesting

1059
00:34:29,279 --> 00:34:31,219
that plays out over the next few years.

1060
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:33,139
And I mean, of course,

1061
00:34:33,914 --> 00:34:35,594
when I talk about the good, the bad,

1062
00:34:35,594 --> 00:34:36,255
and the orange,

1063
00:34:36,635 --> 00:34:38,954
Donald Trump launching his own Trump coin, like,

1064
00:34:38,954 --> 00:34:40,094
right before the inauguration

1065
00:34:40,555 --> 00:34:42,875
perfectly on brand for the orange. You know

1066
00:34:42,875 --> 00:34:45,355
what I mean? That's just Parachuting in, rug

1067
00:34:45,355 --> 00:34:47,789
pulling his his his audience and putting a

1068
00:34:47,789 --> 00:34:49,730
bunch of money in his pocket and bankrupting.

1069
00:34:49,869 --> 00:34:52,269
Ugh. Yeah. Just the perfect, you know, Hock

1070
00:34:52,269 --> 00:34:55,070
2 coin of, the Republican Party is fantastic.

1071
00:34:55,070 --> 00:34:56,750
Same with Malay's coin. Right? I mean, actually,

1072
00:34:56,750 --> 00:34:58,750
Malay's Right. Much more severe, and that was,

1073
00:34:58,750 --> 00:35:00,510
like, a legitimate pump and dump, and he

1074
00:35:00,510 --> 00:35:02,385
didn't even care. He's like, too bad. But

1075
00:35:02,385 --> 00:35:04,144
but Trump's and Melania's look at the price

1076
00:35:04,144 --> 00:35:05,664
compared to what happened. I mean, it's a

1077
00:35:05,664 --> 00:35:07,184
it's a little bit more of an extended

1078
00:35:07,184 --> 00:35:08,625
pump and dump. It's the same thing, though.

1079
00:35:08,625 --> 00:35:09,744
People put a lot of money in that

1080
00:35:09,744 --> 00:35:10,945
because they thought it was gonna be something.

1081
00:35:10,945 --> 00:35:12,224
I mean, it's a fraction of the price

1082
00:35:12,224 --> 00:35:13,425
at this point. You know? And that you

1083
00:35:13,425 --> 00:35:15,025
could argue that's just because it didn't succeed,

1084
00:35:15,025 --> 00:35:17,309
but it's also profiteering and a conflict of

1085
00:35:17,309 --> 00:35:18,909
interest. You could also argue that there was

1086
00:35:18,909 --> 00:35:20,989
a lot of money, I guess, money laundering

1087
00:35:20,989 --> 00:35:23,549
or whatever. There's no accountability through that. Foreign

1088
00:35:23,549 --> 00:35:25,069
governments could have pumped money into that, and

1089
00:35:25,069 --> 00:35:26,909
he they were directly benefiting from it. It's

1090
00:35:26,909 --> 00:35:28,875
just there's so many examples like this. But

1091
00:35:28,875 --> 00:35:30,155
bringing this back to what I what I

1092
00:35:30,155 --> 00:35:31,914
think this is exactly like what you were

1093
00:35:31,914 --> 00:35:33,914
saying. Well, I would add first though that

1094
00:35:33,914 --> 00:35:36,155
I and and there's a lot of disagreement.

1095
00:35:36,155 --> 00:35:38,315
It's actually pretty contentious, which I get why,

1096
00:35:38,315 --> 00:35:40,315
but it's interesting that it's so contentious. I'm

1097
00:35:40,315 --> 00:35:41,639
of the mind, and I think you can

1098
00:35:41,639 --> 00:35:44,539
easily prove this, that the original Bitcoin chain

1099
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:46,219
continued with BSV.

1100
00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:48,679
I think Bitcoin was was forked off, and

1101
00:35:48,679 --> 00:35:50,920
that was and that was even possibly a

1102
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,839
51 attack that happened all the way back

1103
00:35:52,839 --> 00:35:53,960
then. And I don't know if you're familiar

1104
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,864
with that. Here's just a little a little

1105
00:35:55,925 --> 00:35:57,844
graph, and all you can really see is,

1106
00:35:57,844 --> 00:35:59,765
for those that understand the technology really briefly,

1107
00:35:59,765 --> 00:36:01,284
the point is that the chain had continued

1108
00:36:01,284 --> 00:36:03,125
and you can verify this until when then

1109
00:36:03,125 --> 00:36:04,644
when we saw the forks. Right? We got

1110
00:36:04,724 --> 00:36:07,045
you have Bitcoin Cash and then eventually, BSV.

1111
00:36:07,045 --> 00:36:09,119
Now I argue that Bitcoin Cash where that

1112
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:11,119
forked, that was the original continuation of the

1113
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:13,279
actual vision of Bitcoin. What it forked off

1114
00:36:13,279 --> 00:36:15,119
to, that was actually a manipulation in my

1115
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,359
opinion. And then BSV, which actually stands for

1116
00:36:17,359 --> 00:36:20,159
Bitcoin Satoshi Vision, is I mean, it's identical

1117
00:36:20,159 --> 00:36:21,679
to the white paper. And it literally is

1118
00:36:21,679 --> 00:36:23,625
what upholding I mean, I won't go into

1119
00:36:23,625 --> 00:36:25,264
it all. My point is whatever the people's

1120
00:36:25,264 --> 00:36:26,885
opinion, just think about the possibility

1121
00:36:27,264 --> 00:36:29,505
that BSV was actually the continual vision of

1122
00:36:29,505 --> 00:36:31,505
the real Satoshi vision for what it could

1123
00:36:31,505 --> 00:36:34,144
become. And the Bitcoin, which has been stifled

1124
00:36:34,144 --> 00:36:35,264
in a lot of ways because of the

1125
00:36:35,264 --> 00:36:37,505
system, has now become mainstream. The government's now

1126
00:36:37,505 --> 00:36:39,230
using it. I mean, this was designed

1127
00:36:39,849 --> 00:36:41,690
to fight the government and the financial system,

1128
00:36:41,690 --> 00:36:43,130
and now they're Yep. Employing it. So you

1129
00:36:43,130 --> 00:36:44,650
have to see how that applies. And so

1130
00:36:44,650 --> 00:36:45,929
this is where I wanna take that, is

1131
00:36:45,929 --> 00:36:47,610
that I'm seeing this. Right? All of a

1132
00:36:47,610 --> 00:36:49,849
sudden, US marshal service can't say how much

1133
00:36:49,849 --> 00:36:51,644
it holds, and there's a lot of opaque

1134
00:36:51,885 --> 00:36:53,565
kind of situation here, and this is just

1135
00:36:53,565 --> 00:36:55,565
reported by you unusual whales as they cannot

1136
00:36:55,565 --> 00:36:57,585
account for billions of dollars worth of crypto.

1137
00:36:57,724 --> 00:36:59,804
I simply wanted to consider the possibility that

1138
00:36:59,804 --> 00:37:01,405
this is yet another example of this. And

1139
00:37:01,405 --> 00:37:03,005
I'm not sure if you're familiar with what

1140
00:37:03,005 --> 00:37:05,519
a 51% attack is. Bottom line is,

1141
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,239
as this white paper actually said, the system

1142
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,320
is secure as long as honest nodes collectively

1143
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:10,820
control

1144
00:37:11,119 --> 00:37:13,440
not just owning the bit not owning Bitcoin,

1145
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,460
but controlling the CPU power for mining.

1146
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,519
It's as long as the the no honest

1147
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:20,179
nodes collectively control more than 51%

1148
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,684
of the system. And so the the problem

1149
00:37:22,684 --> 00:37:24,204
is now is that you can prove that

1150
00:37:24,204 --> 00:37:25,965
there already before all of this were two

1151
00:37:25,965 --> 00:37:27,885
companies that owned, if they collected their power,

1152
00:37:27,885 --> 00:37:29,085
more than 51%.

1153
00:37:29,085 --> 00:37:30,364
And so I'm of the mind that that's

1154
00:37:30,364 --> 00:37:31,965
long since happened. And so what that really

1155
00:37:31,965 --> 00:37:33,724
means for those who don't know is that

1156
00:37:33,724 --> 00:37:34,704
they could effectively

1157
00:37:35,420 --> 00:37:37,820
spend Bitcoin, it's called double spending, and then

1158
00:37:37,820 --> 00:37:38,940
alter the chain to where you would be

1159
00:37:38,940 --> 00:37:40,059
able to see that. But it gets much

1160
00:37:40,059 --> 00:37:42,380
deeper as you were referencing where this goes,

1161
00:37:42,380 --> 00:37:44,700
whether it's Ethereum or Bitcoin, that there's ways

1162
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:46,300
they could build from this that go into

1163
00:37:46,300 --> 00:37:48,714
things like artificial intelligence and and governance. And

1164
00:37:48,714 --> 00:37:50,315
and that really worries me if we're in

1165
00:37:50,315 --> 00:37:52,635
an opaque situation. I'm wondering whether this might

1166
00:37:52,635 --> 00:37:54,474
represent an example of a failed attempt, and

1167
00:37:54,474 --> 00:37:56,394
that's why there it's being recognized that there's

1168
00:37:56,394 --> 00:37:58,554
something that's missing. This is just hypothetical. But

1169
00:37:58,554 --> 00:38:00,554
what I wanted your thoughts on, as seven

1170
00:38:00,554 --> 00:38:02,929
seas points out, I've been saying this was

1171
00:38:02,929 --> 00:38:05,089
coming, but people just keep telling him crazy.

1172
00:38:05,089 --> 00:38:06,150
This is Ramaswamy

1173
00:38:06,449 --> 00:38:08,929
saying he's calling for putting every public expenditure,

1174
00:38:08,929 --> 00:38:10,469
state, country, and municipality

1175
00:38:10,929 --> 00:38:13,569
on the blockchain, which I could make an

1176
00:38:13,569 --> 00:38:15,089
argument for why that would be a positive

1177
00:38:15,089 --> 00:38:16,929
thing in some context, but I'm very concerned

1178
00:38:16,929 --> 00:38:18,515
about this. Seven Seas goes on to say,

1179
00:38:18,515 --> 00:38:20,675
everything everywhere will eventually be on blockchain, and

1180
00:38:20,675 --> 00:38:22,355
it won't be for freedom and transparency. It

1181
00:38:22,355 --> 00:38:24,675
will be for control and only control. Being

1182
00:38:24,675 --> 00:38:25,974
set up by local networks

1183
00:38:26,355 --> 00:38:28,515
for begin setting up local networks for trading

1184
00:38:28,515 --> 00:38:30,434
commodities now because eventually, you won't have any

1185
00:38:30,434 --> 00:38:32,829
opportunity. Larry Fink is excited about this. All

1186
00:38:32,829 --> 00:38:34,269
of this falls in the bottom of my

1187
00:38:34,269 --> 00:38:35,949
model. Crypto is a scam. So give me

1188
00:38:35,949 --> 00:38:38,030
your thoughts on that general, you know, direction

1189
00:38:38,030 --> 00:38:39,889
for all this and whether you think that

1190
00:38:40,109 --> 00:38:42,429
where this is going is is not just

1191
00:38:42,429 --> 00:38:44,269
about money and a reserve, but more so

1192
00:38:44,269 --> 00:38:47,010
about control using this kind of AI intertwined

1193
00:38:47,069 --> 00:38:48,704
with all of this. I think we can

1194
00:38:48,704 --> 00:38:51,265
see the control of of this happening in

1195
00:38:51,265 --> 00:38:52,965
the persecution of Roger Ver,

1196
00:38:53,505 --> 00:38:54,405
who was,

1197
00:38:55,345 --> 00:38:55,845
on

1198
00:38:56,545 --> 00:38:58,644
Thursday, the the fourth day of Anarkapulco,

1199
00:38:59,265 --> 00:39:01,265
like, two weeks ago when I was MCing

1200
00:39:01,265 --> 00:39:01,765
there,

1201
00:39:03,420 --> 00:39:06,059
Sort of kept under the radar, but, we

1202
00:39:06,059 --> 00:39:09,739
had Roger Ver on, remotely from Spain, of

1203
00:39:09,739 --> 00:39:12,460
course. He was with his he was unable

1204
00:39:12,460 --> 00:39:13,119
to speak.

1205
00:39:13,739 --> 00:39:15,659
He chose not to speak during the interview.

1206
00:39:15,659 --> 00:39:17,199
He had next to him his,

1207
00:39:18,394 --> 00:39:20,954
the director of his of the of a

1208
00:39:20,954 --> 00:39:21,454
documentary,

1209
00:39:21,835 --> 00:39:23,675
who was representing. It wasn't his lawyer, but

1210
00:39:23,675 --> 00:39:24,714
I thought it was his lawyer when I

1211
00:39:24,795 --> 00:39:26,494
because I kinda came in halfway through.

1212
00:39:26,875 --> 00:39:29,594
And and Roger was had has been a

1213
00:39:29,594 --> 00:39:31,214
huge advocate of the Anarkapulco

1214
00:39:31,514 --> 00:39:35,179
community. He's he's financed I remember 2019 bit

1215
00:39:35,339 --> 00:39:38,059
bitcoin Com, always had a big presence there.

1216
00:39:38,059 --> 00:39:39,500
And I was new to to it, and

1217
00:39:39,500 --> 00:39:41,500
I didn't really understand the block wars, and

1218
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,579
I didn't understand the history of it. I

1219
00:39:43,579 --> 00:39:45,420
just know that there's some division between the

1220
00:39:45,420 --> 00:39:47,420
guys and and and what was going on.

1221
00:39:47,420 --> 00:39:47,920
But

1222
00:39:48,885 --> 00:39:51,065
we we see that per prosecution

1223
00:39:51,364 --> 00:39:52,905
of Roger Verre happening,

1224
00:39:53,204 --> 00:39:54,804
you know, you first of all, if you

1225
00:39:54,804 --> 00:39:56,164
get on the wrong side of the government,

1226
00:39:56,164 --> 00:39:57,684
just sort of like a little hint in

1227
00:39:57,684 --> 00:40:00,164
your international, you're sort of global and and

1228
00:40:00,164 --> 00:40:01,224
don't go to Spain.

1229
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,239
Don't ever go to Spain because they were

1230
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,079
talking about that a little bit during the

1231
00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:07,599
the you know, the same thing happened to

1232
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:09,199
McAfee. He wound up in Spain and he

1233
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:11,920
gets arrested. So it it the Spanish law

1234
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:13,219
says that you can't

1235
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,635
they won't arrest you or hold you for

1236
00:40:16,635 --> 00:40:18,075
a crime if it's not a crime in

1237
00:40:18,075 --> 00:40:19,934
Spain. If it's a crime in Uganda,

1238
00:40:20,315 --> 00:40:21,914
but it's not a crime in Spain, then

1239
00:40:21,914 --> 00:40:23,275
they just say, well, we're not gonna do

1240
00:40:23,275 --> 00:40:26,155
anything unless the American government asks them to.

1241
00:40:26,155 --> 00:40:28,190
Of course. And if the American government, then

1242
00:40:28,190 --> 00:40:30,190
they go against their own constitution and they

1243
00:40:30,190 --> 00:40:31,650
retain somebody like,

1244
00:40:32,190 --> 00:40:34,349
John McAfee or in this case, Roger Ver,

1245
00:40:34,349 --> 00:40:35,170
who is now

1246
00:40:36,190 --> 00:40:38,909
waiting for extradition any day now, and that's

1247
00:40:38,909 --> 00:40:40,049
a Biden DOJ

1248
00:40:41,715 --> 00:40:44,675
situation. Maybe there'll be pressure put on Trump,

1249
00:40:44,675 --> 00:40:46,595
and and he'll do what he did with

1250
00:40:46,595 --> 00:40:48,114
Ross Ulbrich and and allow,

1251
00:40:48,434 --> 00:40:51,075
Roger out. That would be fantastic. But I

1252
00:40:51,075 --> 00:40:53,655
think that they see I think they recognize

1253
00:40:53,715 --> 00:40:55,414
some of these OG crypto guys,

1254
00:40:55,922 --> 00:40:57,750
the the Bitcoin guys, especially,

1255
00:40:58,609 --> 00:41:00,289
as a threat too. I mean, I think

1256
00:41:00,289 --> 00:41:01,989
that there there's there's some

1257
00:41:02,369 --> 00:41:04,929
some, of of these guys they don't want

1258
00:41:04,929 --> 00:41:06,710
out wandering the streets,

1259
00:41:07,250 --> 00:41:08,949
looking into what they're doing,

1260
00:41:09,605 --> 00:41:10,744
with with the chain

1261
00:41:11,125 --> 00:41:12,964
or as you mentioned that Right. Maybe double

1262
00:41:12,964 --> 00:41:15,605
spending or hiding it in certain ways. You

1263
00:41:15,605 --> 00:41:17,364
you could easily do it from me. I

1264
00:41:17,364 --> 00:41:18,964
wouldn't know where to look or how to

1265
00:41:18,964 --> 00:41:20,244
find it or how to catch it. I'm

1266
00:41:20,244 --> 00:41:22,244
not that technically savvy. I don't understand the

1267
00:41:22,244 --> 00:41:22,744
details,

1268
00:41:23,180 --> 00:41:25,340
But that guy would. Roger Verwer would know.

1269
00:41:25,340 --> 00:41:27,140
And to really quickly add view it as

1270
00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:28,079
a threat. Sorry.

1271
00:41:29,019 --> 00:41:30,300
Just really quickly, you wouldn't be able to

1272
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:31,660
see it is the point. Like, that's the

1273
00:41:31,660 --> 00:41:33,099
whole point is that nobody would be able

1274
00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:34,780
not even experts in the field. And and

1275
00:41:34,860 --> 00:41:36,619
but that's unless there was something that that

1276
00:41:36,619 --> 00:41:38,405
was not done properly. You know? So I

1277
00:41:38,405 --> 00:41:39,605
agree with you. I think they see them

1278
00:41:39,605 --> 00:41:41,605
as a threat, but but the the people

1279
00:41:41,605 --> 00:41:43,605
should ask in their you know, why? What's

1280
00:41:43,605 --> 00:41:45,125
the real threat here? Because you have a

1281
00:41:45,125 --> 00:41:47,525
different perspective on what should be used. That's

1282
00:41:47,525 --> 00:41:49,125
not enough. Right? So I agree with you.

1283
00:41:49,125 --> 00:41:51,284
I think it's about these people being a

1284
00:41:51,364 --> 00:41:51,864
like,

1285
00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:54,369
it's because, arguably, it's an open

1286
00:41:55,309 --> 00:41:57,230
that it might highlight that they are using

1287
00:41:57,230 --> 00:41:59,230
this in a nefarious way. Right? Like, that

1288
00:41:59,230 --> 00:42:00,910
that you're showing, like, the double spending or

1289
00:42:00,910 --> 00:42:02,430
even just where I'm going with it, which

1290
00:42:02,430 --> 00:42:04,349
is beyond that, is where and we can

1291
00:42:04,349 --> 00:42:06,349
see this being implemented in ways that will

1292
00:42:06,349 --> 00:42:09,055
go beyond even a reserve currency or a

1293
00:42:09,055 --> 00:42:11,215
strategic reserve. But it it is going beyond

1294
00:42:11,215 --> 00:42:12,655
that how this can be used, just the

1295
00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:15,394
blockchain technology as he's highlighting for for governance.

1296
00:42:15,535 --> 00:42:17,135
And, actually, what's funny is James Corbett was

1297
00:42:17,135 --> 00:42:18,675
just using the word. I think it's oligocracy.

1298
00:42:19,215 --> 00:42:21,190
It means, like, government through algorithm. And I'm

1299
00:42:21,190 --> 00:42:22,949
like, I'm not that's I'm like, man, we're

1300
00:42:22,949 --> 00:42:24,869
in a very crazy time. And so we

1301
00:42:24,869 --> 00:42:25,869
might as well, from that, just go to

1302
00:42:25,909 --> 00:42:26,869
unless you have any more thoughts on the

1303
00:42:26,869 --> 00:42:28,789
crypto side of it. Well, the Bank of

1304
00:42:28,789 --> 00:42:31,210
International Settlements is talking about their universal,

1305
00:42:32,309 --> 00:42:34,550
ledger. Right? And that that's that's the rail

1306
00:42:34,550 --> 00:42:37,315
system for all central banks. And I I

1307
00:42:37,315 --> 00:42:39,655
I would suggest that who he who controls

1308
00:42:39,715 --> 00:42:40,614
that controls

1309
00:42:40,994 --> 00:42:42,755
banking. And if you can get to a

1310
00:42:42,755 --> 00:42:45,315
point where where the BIS is putting everything

1311
00:42:45,315 --> 00:42:47,414
on their version of the blockchain

1312
00:42:47,795 --> 00:42:49,094
and running it,

1313
00:42:49,394 --> 00:42:49,894
then,

1314
00:42:51,809 --> 00:42:53,329
you know, you you have to get nervous

1315
00:42:53,329 --> 00:42:55,809
when the central bankers are enthusiastic about it.

1316
00:42:55,809 --> 00:42:57,809
You know, the the the the guys running

1317
00:42:57,809 --> 00:42:58,869
the carnival scam,

1318
00:42:59,250 --> 00:43:01,410
when they like it or when Larry Fink

1319
00:43:01,410 --> 00:43:03,890
likes it or when Donald Trump likes it.

1320
00:43:03,890 --> 00:43:05,835
You know? Whenever they start to like it,

1321
00:43:06,074 --> 00:43:07,835
I get a little nervous. I get I

1322
00:43:07,835 --> 00:43:08,234
don't,

1323
00:43:09,034 --> 00:43:10,494
you don't even have to see

1324
00:43:11,114 --> 00:43:13,114
four steps ahead to to understand the game.

1325
00:43:13,114 --> 00:43:14,875
You just have to know that these guys

1326
00:43:14,875 --> 00:43:17,614
are master manipulators. And if they're

1327
00:43:17,914 --> 00:43:19,929
into it, it's more than just money. It

1328
00:43:19,929 --> 00:43:22,010
can't be just about money to get Larry

1329
00:43:22,010 --> 00:43:24,030
Fink excited about it because

1330
00:43:24,329 --> 00:43:25,849
they've got all the money that they need.

1331
00:43:25,849 --> 00:43:27,789
They have access to, you know,

1332
00:43:28,170 --> 00:43:29,630
trillions of dollars of capital.

1333
00:43:30,409 --> 00:43:32,625
It's gotta be about something else. And if

1334
00:43:32,625 --> 00:43:34,625
they like it, then I sort of don't

1335
00:43:34,625 --> 00:43:36,945
like it by default. Yeah. Yeah. But that

1336
00:43:36,945 --> 00:43:39,105
but that being said, I have Bitcoin. And

1337
00:43:39,105 --> 00:43:41,585
I and I and I would like for

1338
00:43:41,585 --> 00:43:44,224
it to continue on, but I I know

1339
00:43:44,224 --> 00:43:44,909
that there's

1340
00:43:45,389 --> 00:43:48,190
there's real questions about how it that pivot

1341
00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:50,210
went back in 2017,

1342
00:43:50,269 --> 00:43:50,929
I guess.

1343
00:43:51,710 --> 00:43:54,130
And that would be authentic, hardcore,

1344
00:43:55,150 --> 00:43:55,650
ideologically

1345
00:43:55,949 --> 00:43:58,030
aligned guys are saying, no. No. No. What

1346
00:43:58,030 --> 00:43:59,835
you see now is not what it used

1347
00:44:02,474 --> 00:44:02,546
to be. It's not following the white paper,

1348
00:44:02,554 --> 00:44:04,554
correctly. And and and I'm the wrong guy

1349
00:44:04,554 --> 00:44:06,074
to have that debate. I just don't know

1350
00:44:06,074 --> 00:44:07,914
enough about it. But I just I do

1351
00:44:07,914 --> 00:44:09,594
know that there's that there's some,

1352
00:44:10,074 --> 00:44:12,519
there there's real concerns about that. Yeah. Well,

1353
00:44:12,519 --> 00:44:13,960
there's many there's many points to get into.

1354
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:15,640
It's largely about the block size. And and

1355
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,480
early on, they restricted the growth of block

1356
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,320
size, which restricted the growth of the entire

1357
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:21,480
dynamic. And so it is it restricted that

1358
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,559
from becoming what it was supposed to become,

1359
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:25,394
which is a challenge of the financial system.

1360
00:44:25,474 --> 00:44:27,315
Right? And so and that was on purpose.

1361
00:44:27,315 --> 00:44:29,394
And so then once it forked off, Bitcoin

1362
00:44:29,394 --> 00:44:31,795
Cash did go on to increase it. And

1363
00:44:31,795 --> 00:44:34,034
arguably, BSV at this point can even challenge

1364
00:44:34,034 --> 00:44:35,954
Visa if you really break down the speed

1365
00:44:35,954 --> 00:44:37,954
of transaction. That's why BSV, you can't even

1366
00:44:37,954 --> 00:44:39,474
really buy on the exchanges. There's, like, only

1367
00:44:39,474 --> 00:44:40,869
a few that allow it. It's like, how

1368
00:44:40,869 --> 00:44:42,309
does that make sense? Well, it's clear because

1369
00:44:42,309 --> 00:44:44,150
that is the real challenge. That's the threat

1370
00:44:44,150 --> 00:44:45,670
to the system. The rest have been co

1371
00:44:45,670 --> 00:44:47,750
opted to become the system. It's pretty simple,

1372
00:44:47,750 --> 00:44:49,109
you know? But so, what's funny is as

1373
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:50,389
you're outlining all of that, which I agree

1374
00:44:50,389 --> 00:44:52,389
completely, it's well, it makes me uncomfortable when

1375
00:44:52,389 --> 00:44:54,389
Larry Fink and central banks and Trump and

1376
00:44:54,389 --> 00:44:55,829
they're all high fiving about the new system

1377
00:44:55,829 --> 00:44:57,315
and don't confuse any of that with the

1378
00:44:57,315 --> 00:44:59,155
deep state, ladies and gentlemen. Even though it's

1379
00:44:59,155 --> 00:45:01,155
everything we always represented as the deep state,

1380
00:45:01,155 --> 00:45:03,795
totally not. Central banks and bankers and weapon

1381
00:45:04,114 --> 00:45:06,275
lobbyists. No. It's all a heyday. We're unity

1382
00:45:06,275 --> 00:45:07,335
team now. But

1383
00:45:07,635 --> 00:45:08,934
this brings it into

1384
00:45:09,235 --> 00:45:09,894
AI governance.

1385
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:11,599
Right? So I want your thoughts on that

1386
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:13,280
because this is a this, again, sort of

1387
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,420
a hypothetical, but

1388
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:16,320
I I kinda like, how is this not

1389
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,400
happening right now? Especially with the weird opaque

1390
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,920
aspect of all of this with I don't

1391
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,940
know if you've seen the whole Doge administrator

1392
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:22,660
thing.

1393
00:45:22,965 --> 00:45:24,885
Apparently, they're saying it's Amy Gleason who was

1394
00:45:24,885 --> 00:45:26,805
the, I guess, the administrator or, like, the

1395
00:45:26,805 --> 00:45:28,485
one under during when it was called Doge,

1396
00:45:28,805 --> 00:45:29,785
digital services.

1397
00:45:30,164 --> 00:45:31,925
Mhmm. And and now that that she went

1398
00:45:31,925 --> 00:45:34,085
away during the last administration, and now she's

1399
00:45:34,085 --> 00:45:35,765
back, but it was nobody really talked about

1400
00:45:35,765 --> 00:45:37,670
that. And even though clearly Elon Musk is

1401
00:45:37,670 --> 00:45:39,269
obviously in charge, even though he's just supposed

1402
00:45:39,269 --> 00:45:40,710
to be an adviser who doesn't take any

1403
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:43,349
action. And so I'm wondering whether that's all

1404
00:45:43,349 --> 00:45:45,190
a big show. And that right now, we're

1405
00:45:45,190 --> 00:45:48,230
literally testing AI governance. Just a hypothetical thought

1406
00:45:48,230 --> 00:45:49,349
that somebody threw out the other day, and

1407
00:45:49,349 --> 00:45:51,304
I was like, wow. That's actually really interesting

1408
00:45:51,304 --> 00:45:53,244
thought. So what do you think about that?

1409
00:45:54,105 --> 00:45:55,464
So I have I have

1410
00:45:56,824 --> 00:45:57,964
I can have two

1411
00:45:58,344 --> 00:46:00,424
simultaneous thoughts at the same time. The first

1412
00:46:00,424 --> 00:46:01,085
thought is

1413
00:46:01,385 --> 00:46:02,045
I love

1414
00:46:02,505 --> 00:46:04,284
that a lot of these government workers

1415
00:46:04,585 --> 00:46:05,085
are

1416
00:46:05,699 --> 00:46:08,900
packing their offices into cardboard boxes and perp

1417
00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:11,059
walking them out of the buildings and and

1418
00:46:11,059 --> 00:46:12,820
going home because they don't have a job

1419
00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,139
anymore. I love that. I I we should

1420
00:46:15,139 --> 00:46:17,000
shrink the size of government a ton.

1421
00:46:17,380 --> 00:46:19,364
I I feel that way about the human

1422
00:46:19,364 --> 00:46:21,125
people that have decided to go to work

1423
00:46:21,125 --> 00:46:22,585
for the empire. So

1424
00:46:23,045 --> 00:46:24,405
the the more of them that lose their

1425
00:46:24,405 --> 00:46:25,385
job, the better.

1426
00:46:26,085 --> 00:46:26,585
However,

1427
00:46:27,364 --> 00:46:28,744
I am fully aware

1428
00:46:29,045 --> 00:46:30,965
that if you are running some sort of

1429
00:46:30,965 --> 00:46:34,059
AI governance, those people are unnecessary anyway. Mhmm.

1430
00:46:34,059 --> 00:46:36,059
They just you don't really need as many

1431
00:46:36,059 --> 00:46:37,659
people to run, you know, you just need

1432
00:46:37,659 --> 00:46:39,659
the programmers to program the machines to do

1433
00:46:39,659 --> 00:46:40,319
this. So

1434
00:46:40,780 --> 00:46:43,260
I can be happy that these people are

1435
00:46:43,260 --> 00:46:44,159
having to

1436
00:46:44,619 --> 00:46:46,699
get on, you know, indeed.com

1437
00:46:46,699 --> 00:46:48,420
and submit their resume and go look for

1438
00:46:48,420 --> 00:46:49,954
a job because they should. If you work

1439
00:46:49,954 --> 00:46:51,655
for the IRS or if you work for

1440
00:46:51,715 --> 00:46:54,534
USAID or the any National Endowment for Democracy,

1441
00:46:54,594 --> 00:46:55,954
you should be out of work. You should

1442
00:46:55,954 --> 00:46:57,474
be looking for a job and selling your

1443
00:46:57,474 --> 00:46:59,474
house and downsizing and all those things because

1444
00:46:59,474 --> 00:47:01,650
you're because you've worked for the enemy.

1445
00:47:02,690 --> 00:47:03,170
But,

1446
00:47:03,650 --> 00:47:05,589
I I worry about

1447
00:47:07,089 --> 00:47:09,730
I listen. I worry about the role of

1448
00:47:09,730 --> 00:47:11,889
the technocrats in all of this. And and

1449
00:47:11,889 --> 00:47:14,744
and and it feels as though we're cheerleading

1450
00:47:15,204 --> 00:47:17,364
the technocracy too. But when I when I

1451
00:47:17,364 --> 00:47:19,204
do that, when I applaud that these people

1452
00:47:19,204 --> 00:47:21,065
are losing their jobs, I also

1453
00:47:21,445 --> 00:47:24,184
simultaneously have, god, am I cheerleading for, like,

1454
00:47:25,525 --> 00:47:26,744
the the acceleration

1455
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:30,760
of a digital government system. Because, you know,

1456
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:32,840
we're we're already starting to get into this

1457
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:34,380
weird world where it's like

1458
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:35,900
AI

1459
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:37,179
psychotherapists.

1460
00:47:37,559 --> 00:47:39,639
You can talk to this computer about your

1461
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:40,445
problems and

1462
00:47:40,905 --> 00:47:42,105
what not, you know, and and the things

1463
00:47:42,105 --> 00:47:43,865
are, oh, god. We're gonna put therapist out

1464
00:47:43,865 --> 00:47:46,204
of business. Well, maybe maybe not. But but

1465
00:47:46,425 --> 00:47:48,824
starting to normalize the process of talking to

1466
00:47:48,824 --> 00:47:50,525
your computer about things,

1467
00:47:51,144 --> 00:47:53,144
and where that goes, and where that leads

1468
00:47:53,144 --> 00:47:53,644
to

1469
00:47:54,019 --> 00:47:56,260
to overall government. And of course, Brave New

1470
00:47:56,260 --> 00:47:58,260
World, you know, a book that came out

1471
00:47:58,260 --> 00:48:00,260
a hundred years ago almost and,

1472
00:48:00,659 --> 00:48:02,440
talks about this this

1473
00:48:03,460 --> 00:48:03,960
future

1474
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:06,579
in which the very, very few control the

1475
00:48:06,579 --> 00:48:09,059
many, and they do it digitally. And so

1476
00:48:09,059 --> 00:48:09,880
I'm I'm

1477
00:48:10,875 --> 00:48:11,855
always a bit.

1478
00:48:12,635 --> 00:48:14,414
Yeah. I I'm, I'm never too,

1479
00:48:14,875 --> 00:48:17,835
too quick to applaud any of this stuff

1480
00:48:17,835 --> 00:48:19,594
because I'm trying to figure out what the

1481
00:48:19,594 --> 00:48:21,675
other angle is, because if they're doing this,

1482
00:48:21,675 --> 00:48:24,070
if they're getting rid of a hundred thousand

1483
00:48:24,070 --> 00:48:26,389
government employees all at once, it's like, that

1484
00:48:26,389 --> 00:48:28,550
sounds great. And and and they're they're clawing

1485
00:48:28,550 --> 00:48:30,710
back all this money that's been spent on

1486
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:33,050
frivolous things. That sounds great too.

1487
00:48:33,510 --> 00:48:35,429
They've exactly What am I missing? You know?

1488
00:48:35,429 --> 00:48:37,275
Where's the other side of this?

1489
00:48:38,074 --> 00:48:40,315
Or, you know, are we or is there

1490
00:48:40,394 --> 00:48:42,315
is this a setup? You know? Or is

1491
00:48:42,315 --> 00:48:44,714
this the the pump fake, to get us,

1492
00:48:44,954 --> 00:48:46,474
up in the air and and as they

1493
00:48:46,474 --> 00:48:48,315
go around us? So I I I'm always

1494
00:48:48,315 --> 00:48:50,734
a bit suspicious of of any of their,

1495
00:48:52,170 --> 00:48:53,630
anytime anyone is is

1496
00:48:54,809 --> 00:48:57,849
enthusiastically cheerleading the government doing anything, I have

1497
00:48:57,849 --> 00:48:59,530
to get a bit suspicious about why that

1498
00:48:59,530 --> 00:49:01,609
is. Yeah. Well, that's just being objective and

1499
00:49:01,609 --> 00:49:03,530
and, you know, discernment. But what what I

1500
00:49:03,530 --> 00:49:04,650
would add a few things, though, is, like,

1501
00:49:04,650 --> 00:49:06,329
what's interesting is I I trust me. I

1502
00:49:06,329 --> 00:49:08,594
get the mindset of, you know, like, from

1503
00:49:08,594 --> 00:49:09,655
from an anarchistic,

1504
00:49:10,035 --> 00:49:11,554
like, all of it should go away. I'm

1505
00:49:11,554 --> 00:49:13,394
like, yes. Good. All of it. Wherever. Chop

1506
00:49:13,394 --> 00:49:14,515
it off. Right? That's so it's like that's

1507
00:49:14,594 --> 00:49:16,675
I get that. But what's interesting though is

1508
00:49:16,675 --> 00:49:18,454
that they're not getting rid of the problem.

1509
00:49:18,515 --> 00:49:20,934
They're slicing off people that helped the problem,

1510
00:49:21,050 --> 00:49:22,489
which is, I guess, a step. But if

1511
00:49:22,489 --> 00:49:24,329
you're still using US ID, which they are,

1512
00:49:24,329 --> 00:49:25,849
if you're still using these things, so it's

1513
00:49:25,849 --> 00:49:27,369
it's more of an illusion. And then the

1514
00:49:27,369 --> 00:49:29,210
question becomes, how do we even know the

1515
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:31,050
people they got rid of are the ones

1516
00:49:31,050 --> 00:49:33,050
that were the problem? We don't. It's all

1517
00:49:33,050 --> 00:49:34,409
an assumption based on what they tell us

1518
00:49:34,409 --> 00:49:35,985
they're doing. It's a Democrat or, you know,

1519
00:49:35,985 --> 00:49:37,184
well, we don't even know. We haven't even

1520
00:49:37,184 --> 00:49:38,704
got the name of the supposed person that

1521
00:49:38,704 --> 00:49:40,625
didn't give the Epstein file. I don't even

1522
00:49:40,625 --> 00:49:41,985
believe that's happening. You know what I mean?

1523
00:49:41,985 --> 00:49:43,985
Like, that's just where my my reflexive stance

1524
00:49:43,985 --> 00:49:45,664
is if there nothing's being shown to you

1525
00:49:45,664 --> 00:49:47,585
and it's a self serving narrative. I'm open

1526
00:49:47,585 --> 00:49:48,704
to the idea that it might be there,

1527
00:49:48,704 --> 00:49:50,380
but how would they not? Like, why why

1528
00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:51,659
aren't we seeing a perp walk of the

1529
00:49:51,659 --> 00:49:53,500
democrat that held back the Epstein file if

1530
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:54,460
they know? You know what I mean? It

1531
00:49:54,460 --> 00:49:56,219
doesn't make any sense. And so I worry

1532
00:49:56,219 --> 00:49:57,760
that what we're seeing is a game

1533
00:49:58,059 --> 00:49:59,420
of, like, like you say, whether it's for

1534
00:49:59,420 --> 00:50:01,019
the interest of the AI governance or just

1535
00:50:01,019 --> 00:50:02,300
because they're getting rid of the people that

1536
00:50:02,300 --> 00:50:03,659
might have pushed back on what they're gonna

1537
00:50:03,659 --> 00:50:05,474
do, who might have insight into the criminality

1538
00:50:05,474 --> 00:50:06,914
they're take, or maybe they're getting rid of

1539
00:50:06,914 --> 00:50:08,035
all the deep state. You know what I

1540
00:50:08,035 --> 00:50:09,474
mean? It's like that we don't know should

1541
00:50:09,474 --> 00:50:10,914
be the point. You know? But but I

1542
00:50:10,994 --> 00:50:13,875
and, like, USAID, for example. You know? Obviously,

1543
00:50:13,875 --> 00:50:15,635
I think anybody with a brain well before

1544
00:50:15,635 --> 00:50:17,235
the partisan show that's been going on is

1545
00:50:17,235 --> 00:50:19,575
aware that USAID and National Endowment for Democracy

1546
00:50:19,710 --> 00:50:21,889
are regime's change engines that have been used

1547
00:50:21,949 --> 00:50:23,730
using whatever the current thing is.

1548
00:50:24,030 --> 00:50:26,190
Woke politics was really clearly a thing for

1549
00:50:26,190 --> 00:50:27,550
a while, but we know before that it

1550
00:50:27,550 --> 00:50:29,230
was whatever else got them in the door

1551
00:50:29,230 --> 00:50:30,909
to regime you know, that's the real point.

1552
00:50:30,909 --> 00:50:32,555
So it's all a cover. So if all

1553
00:50:32,555 --> 00:50:33,994
we're doing is going after all the woke

1554
00:50:33,994 --> 00:50:35,675
and D E I, yes, I completely agree,

1555
00:50:35,675 --> 00:50:37,595
but that's that's not the full picture, you

1556
00:50:37,595 --> 00:50:39,355
know. But, really, for me, it wasn't so

1557
00:50:39,355 --> 00:50:40,875
much about an indictment of or, you know,

1558
00:50:40,875 --> 00:50:42,394
one way or the other about Doge, but

1559
00:50:42,394 --> 00:50:44,155
just the idea of whoever it is, whether

1560
00:50:44,155 --> 00:50:47,135
Biden or Trump or whatever, using artificial intelligence

1561
00:50:47,355 --> 00:50:49,589
to effectively govern us. Like, I think we

1562
00:50:49,589 --> 00:50:51,349
all know that is where this goes. Like,

1563
00:50:51,349 --> 00:50:53,510
that's what they're talking about with efficiency. Even

1564
00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:55,429
the efficiency movement being the precursor to, like,

1565
00:50:55,429 --> 00:50:57,589
the technocracy movement. You know, it's it's really

1566
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:59,190
alarming to me. So I don't know. I

1567
00:50:59,190 --> 00:51:00,489
I think the way that goes

1568
00:51:00,934 --> 00:51:03,255
is the exact technocracy we're all worried about.

1569
00:51:03,255 --> 00:51:04,534
And if we're at a at a point

1570
00:51:04,534 --> 00:51:05,434
where there's less

1571
00:51:05,894 --> 00:51:07,275
oversight or any

1572
00:51:07,655 --> 00:51:08,315
more opacity

1573
00:51:08,614 --> 00:51:10,695
than we've ever seen before, all because we

1574
00:51:10,695 --> 00:51:12,375
know, oh, well, he's the good guy, or,

1575
00:51:12,375 --> 00:51:14,010
like, that's the sentiment. I mean, I've never

1576
00:51:14,010 --> 00:51:15,610
been more concerned about what's going on with

1577
00:51:15,610 --> 00:51:17,050
all this. And then on the money side

1578
00:51:17,050 --> 00:51:19,369
of it, I mean, I I've personally been

1579
00:51:19,369 --> 00:51:21,369
going through these spending documents not because the

1580
00:51:21,369 --> 00:51:22,890
New York Times said, even I was covering

1581
00:51:22,890 --> 00:51:24,890
this weeks ago, that I could prove that

1582
00:51:24,890 --> 00:51:26,250
half the things they were showing, I shouldn't

1583
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:27,449
say half, but a lot that I was

1584
00:51:27,449 --> 00:51:28,829
finding were inaccurate,

1585
00:51:29,214 --> 00:51:30,734
were things that were canceled before they ever

1586
00:51:30,734 --> 00:51:32,175
started, things that were still going on even

1587
00:51:32,175 --> 00:51:33,534
though they said they were gone. And now

1588
00:51:33,534 --> 00:51:35,694
they're getting caught pretty thoroughly where there all

1589
00:51:35,694 --> 00:51:37,135
these contracts, some of them were deleted back

1590
00:51:37,135 --> 00:51:38,815
with Biden or even before Biden. Right? I

1591
00:51:38,815 --> 00:51:40,414
mean, I've proven that this is the case

1592
00:51:40,414 --> 00:51:43,375
regardless of whether the Democrat newspaper's talking about

1593
00:51:43,375 --> 00:51:44,599
it. So it's just crazy to me that

1594
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:46,460
there's a lot a lot of dishonesty.

1595
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,199
And I think that what that shows me

1596
00:51:48,199 --> 00:51:49,800
is that what we're being told is not

1597
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,559
actually what's happening. And you know where my

1598
00:51:51,559 --> 00:51:53,000
mind goes, brother. I mean, it's I see

1599
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,920
Israel's influence on this more than I've ever

1600
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:56,680
seen in my life, and I'm super terrified

1601
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,255
about what that means. So, I mean, I

1602
00:51:58,255 --> 00:51:59,534
went a lot of kind of directions on

1603
00:51:59,534 --> 00:52:00,734
a larger topic right there. What are your

1604
00:52:00,734 --> 00:52:01,855
thoughts on any of that? Where your mind

1605
00:52:01,855 --> 00:52:02,355
go?

1606
00:52:03,215 --> 00:52:03,614
Yeah.

1607
00:52:04,335 --> 00:52:07,135
Well, it's about accountability too. If you fire

1608
00:52:07,135 --> 00:52:08,355
all the human employees

1609
00:52:08,734 --> 00:52:11,454
that you you normally would say, that guy

1610
00:52:11,454 --> 00:52:13,010
did the thing. Yeah. You got you know,

1611
00:52:13,010 --> 00:52:15,170
he's the problem. Now when you move into

1612
00:52:15,170 --> 00:52:16,630
everything is run by computers,

1613
00:52:17,170 --> 00:52:18,469
who do you complain to

1614
00:52:18,769 --> 00:52:20,289
when it all goes wrong? Who do you

1615
00:52:20,289 --> 00:52:20,789
fire?

1616
00:52:21,329 --> 00:52:23,269
Right. Who do you who do you strike.

1617
00:52:23,409 --> 00:52:25,969
Right? Right. Right. When when when when it's

1618
00:52:25,969 --> 00:52:26,609
not oh,

1619
00:52:27,954 --> 00:52:29,894
we might the the

1620
00:52:30,355 --> 00:52:32,594
the sergeant didn't decide that we were gonna

1621
00:52:32,594 --> 00:52:36,034
blow up that building. Palantir's computer programmed it.

1622
00:52:36,034 --> 00:52:38,514
Right. So take it up with Alex Karp

1623
00:52:38,514 --> 00:52:40,914
and Peter Thiel and and Joe Lonsdale and

1624
00:52:40,914 --> 00:52:42,880
all these guys. Like, good good go talk

1625
00:52:42,880 --> 00:52:43,920
to them about it. Like, what do you

1626
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,920
want from me? I'm just doing what the

1627
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,139
computer tells me to do. Right. That, unfortunately,

1628
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,980
obviously, with war, it's gonna be diabolical because

1629
00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:54,980
we we've already seen that with

1630
00:52:55,805 --> 00:52:57,565
with with what's going on in Gaza that

1631
00:52:57,565 --> 00:52:59,885
these decisions are being made by robots. And

1632
00:52:59,885 --> 00:53:02,364
so who will program the robot? You know,

1633
00:53:02,364 --> 00:53:03,744
who programs the program?

1634
00:53:04,045 --> 00:53:05,805
And and if if that guy is a

1635
00:53:05,805 --> 00:53:08,445
unit eighty two hundred alumni, well, then guess

1636
00:53:08,445 --> 00:53:11,090
what? We're gonna blow up every single hospital

1637
00:53:11,309 --> 00:53:12,849
in in in the

1638
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:13,730
region

1639
00:53:14,349 --> 00:53:16,610
because there may be because the computer

1640
00:53:16,989 --> 00:53:18,849
tells us that there's people in the basement.

1641
00:53:18,989 --> 00:53:21,470
There's terrorists in the basement. You know? So

1642
00:53:21,470 --> 00:53:23,730
so you you're you're in a

1643
00:53:24,364 --> 00:53:27,164
you're in a a Terminator situation. Right? Where,

1644
00:53:27,164 --> 00:53:28,844
like, at some point, they're gonna come back

1645
00:53:28,844 --> 00:53:29,585
for for,

1646
00:53:29,885 --> 00:53:31,184
I don't know, Sam Altman.

1647
00:53:31,804 --> 00:53:33,724
Somebody somebody's gonna come back and after, we

1648
00:53:33,724 --> 00:53:35,664
gotta kill Sam Altman. Oh, that's crazy.

1649
00:53:36,190 --> 00:53:37,309
We've gotta cut we got him back from

1650
00:53:37,309 --> 00:53:38,829
the future. We gotta take care of him.

1651
00:53:38,829 --> 00:53:40,590
Like, what is going on? Like, we don't

1652
00:53:40,590 --> 00:53:42,349
understand where this is going. This is Right.

1653
00:53:42,510 --> 00:53:43,949
This is going to a place where there's

1654
00:53:43,949 --> 00:53:44,769
zero accountability,

1655
00:53:45,070 --> 00:53:46,289
unfortunately. And that,

1656
00:53:48,349 --> 00:53:50,355
that is the brave new world. That is

1657
00:53:50,355 --> 00:53:53,255
the the the direction that they've they've pontificated

1658
00:53:53,635 --> 00:53:56,114
about. They've maybe you wanna call it predictive

1659
00:53:56,114 --> 00:53:57,815
programming. I'm fine with that.

1660
00:53:58,835 --> 00:54:00,695
But the committee of three hundred

1661
00:54:01,394 --> 00:54:03,875
was was deeply behind this a hundred years

1662
00:54:03,875 --> 00:54:06,679
ago, pushing out this agenda that that this

1663
00:54:06,679 --> 00:54:08,440
is really where we need to go. We're

1664
00:54:08,440 --> 00:54:10,359
gonna use machines to help us, and then

1665
00:54:10,359 --> 00:54:10,859
ultimately,

1666
00:54:11,639 --> 00:54:13,960
we're gonna use the machines to to govern

1667
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:15,639
us. And if you get to that point,

1668
00:54:15,639 --> 00:54:17,159
then you have to ask who is the

1669
00:54:17,159 --> 00:54:20,195
program. If you are programming the machine to

1670
00:54:20,195 --> 00:54:21,554
help you, if you've got, you know, you

1671
00:54:21,554 --> 00:54:23,014
know, AI is whatever

1672
00:54:23,474 --> 00:54:24,914
you you want it to be. Right? If

1673
00:54:24,914 --> 00:54:27,315
you've got an a desktop assistant and you

1674
00:54:27,315 --> 00:54:29,315
put puts, you know, I need to find

1675
00:54:29,315 --> 00:54:30,835
out, you know, give me some stats on

1676
00:54:30,835 --> 00:54:32,434
this or that, and you use it for

1677
00:54:32,434 --> 00:54:32,934
for,

1678
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:35,800
you know, improved efficiency. I got no problem

1679
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:36,380
with that.

1680
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,420
When you're using it to determine which

1681
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:41,659
building needs to be turned into rubble,

1682
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:42,780
then

1683
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:45,159
then it's more than just me asking the

1684
00:54:45,159 --> 00:54:46,920
question. You have to you have to ask

1685
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,380
who created the system,

1686
00:54:48,695 --> 00:54:50,394
who programmed it from the beginning,

1687
00:54:51,014 --> 00:54:53,815
and what are its, tendencies? Where what are

1688
00:54:53,815 --> 00:54:55,755
its what's the computer's ideology?

1689
00:54:56,215 --> 00:54:57,434
Is is the computer,

1690
00:54:58,375 --> 00:55:00,394
you know, greater Israel project

1691
00:55:01,109 --> 00:55:03,190
leaning? If it is, then all of the

1692
00:55:03,190 --> 00:55:05,609
outcomes are going to mimic that. And so

1693
00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:07,829
we we're we're in a we're in a

1694
00:55:07,829 --> 00:55:10,009
situation now where it's just it's it's

1695
00:55:10,710 --> 00:55:13,269
technology is the double edged sword, you know.

1696
00:55:13,269 --> 00:55:15,344
It really can help us do amazing things,

1697
00:55:15,344 --> 00:55:17,684
and I don't wanna, I don't wanna demonize

1698
00:55:17,744 --> 00:55:19,525
technology because as we move

1699
00:55:20,144 --> 00:55:22,304
as we evolve as people, we we start

1700
00:55:22,304 --> 00:55:24,784
to see that there's some great benefits for

1701
00:55:24,784 --> 00:55:26,545
it. But, man, if it's in the wrong

1702
00:55:26,545 --> 00:55:27,045
hands,

1703
00:55:27,664 --> 00:55:29,585
and I would suggest that most of these

1704
00:55:29,585 --> 00:55:31,125
Silicon Valley guys are

1705
00:55:31,559 --> 00:55:33,239
the wrong hands. Because once you get to

1706
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:34,760
a point where you have all the money

1707
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:36,860
in the world that you could ever spend,

1708
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:38,920
you start looking for things to buy that

1709
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,840
don't have price tags on it. Mhmm. You

1710
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,000
know, you start looking for things like, you

1711
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:45,675
know, let's remake the education system. I mean,

1712
00:55:45,835 --> 00:55:47,515
Rockefeller and Carnegie did it. You don't think

1713
00:55:47,515 --> 00:55:48,954
Elon Musk is gonna do that? He's gonna

1714
00:55:48,954 --> 00:55:50,235
tackle that at some point. Oh, we we

1715
00:55:50,235 --> 00:55:51,835
got rid of the Department of Education because

1716
00:55:51,835 --> 00:55:52,494
it's outdated.

1717
00:55:52,954 --> 00:55:53,934
Here is

1718
00:55:54,635 --> 00:55:55,135
Grok,

1719
00:55:56,315 --> 00:55:56,815
classroom.

1720
00:55:57,114 --> 00:55:59,114
They're already talking about it. Yep. Boom. There

1721
00:55:59,114 --> 00:56:00,780
you go. Yep. Are they talking about it?

1722
00:56:00,860 --> 00:56:02,860
Yeah. I've seen it promoted already. Not necessarily

1723
00:56:02,860 --> 00:56:05,099
directly from Elon Musk about grok, but generally

1724
00:56:05,099 --> 00:56:06,780
in the community, in in the, you know,

1725
00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:08,380
inner circle of Trump. Like, they're talking about

1726
00:56:08,380 --> 00:56:10,300
using this to effectively, you know, for for,

1727
00:56:10,300 --> 00:56:12,619
like you said, for medications, for for checkups,

1728
00:56:12,619 --> 00:56:14,099
for school, all sorts of things. I've seen

1729
00:56:14,099 --> 00:56:15,714
it floated many times. Or how about just

1730
00:56:15,714 --> 00:56:17,795
another conversation of maybe trying to seek their

1731
00:56:17,795 --> 00:56:18,454
own immortality?

1732
00:56:18,994 --> 00:56:20,194
I we all know that's part of it.

1733
00:56:20,194 --> 00:56:21,394
You know? It's like there's so many ways

1734
00:56:21,394 --> 00:56:22,755
to look at this. But, yeah, I mean,

1735
00:56:22,755 --> 00:56:25,094
I I I I think the clear direction

1736
00:56:25,474 --> 00:56:25,974
is

1737
00:56:26,675 --> 00:56:28,194
I mean, I would actually add, by the

1738
00:56:28,194 --> 00:56:29,875
way, I will say that I don't I

1739
00:56:29,875 --> 00:56:31,820
don't. When it comes to artificial intelligence,

1740
00:56:32,119 --> 00:56:34,360
I'm happy to say never. I don't think

1741
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,440
I I don't see I I see there's

1742
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:38,599
far more potential risk to everything we think

1743
00:56:38,599 --> 00:56:40,440
we care about than there might be benefit.

1744
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:42,039
And maybe I'm wrong, but I'm not willing

1745
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:43,079
to roll the dice on that. That's how

1746
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:43,960
I feel about it. But I get what

1747
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:44,920
you're saying. I mean, there's a lot of

1748
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,045
clear benefit that could there. But so we're

1749
00:56:47,045 --> 00:56:48,565
we're I'm back to this, you know, what

1750
00:56:48,565 --> 00:56:50,964
you're saying. We know that in Israel, they're

1751
00:56:50,964 --> 00:56:54,244
using artificial intelligence to kill people. They've made

1752
00:56:54,244 --> 00:56:55,764
that clear. Even Alex Karp, I'm sure you

1753
00:56:55,764 --> 00:56:57,204
saw, was, like, in this now there's two

1754
00:56:57,204 --> 00:56:59,204
separate conversations here about Palantir and what we're

1755
00:56:59,204 --> 00:57:00,964
pointing at. But let's be clear that they're

1756
00:57:00,964 --> 00:57:02,460
doing the same thing. But the point is

1757
00:57:02,460 --> 00:57:04,219
that Karp said publicly and, you know, killing

1758
00:57:04,219 --> 00:57:05,739
people, and it's like it just seems like

1759
00:57:05,739 --> 00:57:07,900
a very strange thing to put forward. And

1760
00:57:07,900 --> 00:57:09,019
how do we know that you have the

1761
00:57:09,019 --> 00:57:10,940
right mindset or the morals, especially as you're

1762
00:57:10,940 --> 00:57:13,019
supporting a genocide? But the point is that

1763
00:57:13,019 --> 00:57:14,460
they have, if you read these articles, made

1764
00:57:14,460 --> 00:57:16,460
it very clear. The IDF members speaking to

1765
00:57:16,460 --> 00:57:18,644
nine seventy two magazine, that they're not only

1766
00:57:19,184 --> 00:57:20,944
being told to take the advice from the

1767
00:57:20,944 --> 00:57:22,784
AI, but they're being pressured to meet a

1768
00:57:22,784 --> 00:57:25,184
certain quota. So they're being pressured to hurry

1769
00:57:25,184 --> 00:57:27,184
and not think about what they're being told.

1770
00:57:27,184 --> 00:57:28,784
It's directly in the article. And so the

1771
00:57:28,784 --> 00:57:31,105
problem is that that becomes the well that

1772
00:57:31,105 --> 00:57:33,179
they told me. I was my my my

1773
00:57:33,179 --> 00:57:34,539
my leader told me and and the AI

1774
00:57:34,539 --> 00:57:35,980
said. And so who do you hold accountable?

1775
00:57:35,980 --> 00:57:37,500
You know? And they're already using that kind

1776
00:57:37,500 --> 00:57:39,599
of excuse, which brings me to this point.

1777
00:57:40,139 --> 00:57:41,579
Would you I'm sure you saw, which we

1778
00:57:41,579 --> 00:57:43,679
can prove that Palantir is in a strategic

1779
00:57:43,739 --> 00:57:46,059
partnership with Israel applying the technology of their

1780
00:57:46,059 --> 00:57:47,664
AI. So it's hard. You can't decouple these

1781
00:57:47,664 --> 00:57:50,865
two things. And that was in January 2024,

1782
00:57:50,864 --> 00:57:53,105
well into the genocide, and there's Karp and

1783
00:57:53,105 --> 00:57:54,625
Thiel. And, of course, we know that Karp

1784
00:57:54,625 --> 00:57:57,184
and Thiel are both very immersed in, you

1785
00:57:57,184 --> 00:57:58,864
know, more so Thiel on the side of

1786
00:57:58,864 --> 00:58:00,464
Trump, but Karp is now with Thiel, and

1787
00:58:00,464 --> 00:58:02,250
they're all supporting Trump as Karp has said.

1788
00:58:02,329 --> 00:58:04,170
That this is, as Eric wrote, election twenty

1789
00:58:04,170 --> 00:58:07,130
twenty four, Zionist technocrats versus Zionist technocrats, is

1790
00:58:07,130 --> 00:58:08,730
I just see that that's where this goes.

1791
00:58:08,730 --> 00:58:10,409
We're in a world where they're literally building

1792
00:58:10,409 --> 00:58:12,489
out this control structure from people that are

1793
00:58:12,489 --> 00:58:13,949
literally committing genocide.

1794
00:58:14,815 --> 00:58:16,574
Hard not to be concerned about that. But,

1795
00:58:16,574 --> 00:58:17,934
you know, I we we were gonna get

1796
00:58:17,934 --> 00:58:19,934
to a lot of other random things, but

1797
00:58:19,934 --> 00:58:21,135
I really actually enjoyed a lot of what

1798
00:58:21,135 --> 00:58:22,574
we talked about today. Before we finish, feel

1799
00:58:22,574 --> 00:58:24,015
free to get into what I was talking

1800
00:58:24,015 --> 00:58:25,295
about there. But I just wanna say that,

1801
00:58:25,295 --> 00:58:26,894
you know, I really enjoy talking with you

1802
00:58:26,894 --> 00:58:28,335
about all this stuff because I've I always

1803
00:58:28,414 --> 00:58:30,110
I find that we, you know I don't

1804
00:58:30,110 --> 00:58:32,289
know. I I find it entertaining, but also

1805
00:58:32,349 --> 00:58:34,110
enlightening. So what are your thoughts on that

1806
00:58:34,110 --> 00:58:35,789
to to end today? We I mean, we

1807
00:58:35,789 --> 00:58:37,469
have to laugh at the absurdity of all

1808
00:58:37,469 --> 00:58:39,730
this. I mean, it's a very serious conversations

1809
00:58:39,789 --> 00:58:41,630
to have. And I and I want I

1810
00:58:41,630 --> 00:58:44,050
think that when it comes to reaching,

1811
00:58:44,715 --> 00:58:46,974
you know, an my audience, I I

1812
00:58:47,275 --> 00:58:48,175
I have to

1813
00:58:48,555 --> 00:58:51,035
to to wrap it in a, like, dark

1814
00:58:51,035 --> 00:58:53,114
humor. You know? Like Yeah. Sort of laughing

1815
00:58:53,114 --> 00:58:55,295
at the absurdity of it all while simultaneously

1816
00:58:55,755 --> 00:58:58,394
understanding how serious this is and the direction

1817
00:58:58,394 --> 00:58:59,914
that we're going. It is,

1818
00:59:00,690 --> 00:59:03,569
it's worth paying attention for those people that

1819
00:59:03,569 --> 00:59:05,569
are outside of of our, you know, your

1820
00:59:05,569 --> 00:59:07,809
family members that don't really care sort of

1821
00:59:07,809 --> 00:59:09,730
sleep thought walking through life or they've got,

1822
00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:11,329
you know, I gotta get the kids soccer

1823
00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:13,434
practice, everything. I get it. You know, there's

1824
00:59:13,434 --> 00:59:15,594
a lot that's that's a a bigger priority

1825
00:59:15,594 --> 00:59:17,114
in your day to day life. And is

1826
00:59:17,114 --> 00:59:18,554
this really gonna affect me? I'm never gonna

1827
00:59:18,554 --> 00:59:20,074
go to The Middle East and who cares

1828
00:59:20,074 --> 00:59:22,394
and all that said. You know, it's easy

1829
00:59:22,394 --> 00:59:24,394
to be dismissive of it and to say,

1830
00:59:24,394 --> 00:59:26,335
oh, well, that's just the future.

1831
00:59:27,030 --> 00:59:28,250
But the future is

1832
00:59:28,630 --> 00:59:30,329
here in some respects, and

1833
00:59:30,869 --> 00:59:31,769
this technology

1834
00:59:32,789 --> 00:59:33,289
is

1835
00:59:33,750 --> 00:59:35,269
is is be you know, it is a

1836
00:59:35,269 --> 00:59:37,829
digital there's a digital prison being built around

1837
00:59:37,829 --> 00:59:39,784
us, and it's we're not conspiracy

1838
00:59:40,085 --> 00:59:42,505
theorists for recognizing it. We're conspiracy

1839
00:59:42,804 --> 00:59:43,304
analysts

1840
00:59:43,764 --> 00:59:46,164
that are analyzing actual things. I mean, we

1841
00:59:46,164 --> 00:59:48,005
we could speculate and and and sort of

1842
00:59:48,005 --> 00:59:50,344
ask the question is to, like,

1843
00:59:51,045 --> 00:59:54,085
why would Israel want to, you know, depopulate

1844
00:59:54,085 --> 00:59:54,585
this?

1845
00:59:55,579 --> 00:59:57,500
You can ask the question why. The facts

1846
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:00,300
are that it's actually happening. Exactly. So it's

1847
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,019
a measurable observation. So for those that have

1848
01:00:03,019 --> 01:00:05,179
their heads down and aren't really paying attention

1849
01:00:05,179 --> 01:00:07,260
to it, boy, you know, it it pays

1850
01:00:07,260 --> 01:00:08,380
to be you know, I know there's a

1851
01:00:08,380 --> 01:00:10,079
lot going on, but it pays to

1852
01:00:10,434 --> 01:00:12,355
to to to open your eyes a little

1853
01:00:12,355 --> 01:00:13,574
bit on these topics.

1854
01:00:13,954 --> 01:00:15,795
And to the extent that you can understand

1855
01:00:15,795 --> 01:00:18,375
them, just just realize that if we

1856
01:00:18,755 --> 01:00:20,614
allow the government to,

1857
01:00:21,554 --> 01:00:23,670
to build this digital prison around us,

1858
01:00:24,949 --> 01:00:26,869
And if you're waiting to hear it on

1859
01:00:26,869 --> 01:00:29,190
CNN or MSNBC or Fox News that it's

1860
01:00:29,190 --> 01:00:31,190
time to get, you know, get yourself extracted

1861
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:32,309
out of this or get your money out

1862
01:00:32,309 --> 01:00:34,389
of the bank or whatever, you're gonna be

1863
01:00:34,389 --> 01:00:36,389
waiting a long, long time. You'll be the

1864
01:00:36,389 --> 01:00:38,385
last person to figure it out. So,

1865
01:00:39,105 --> 01:00:40,545
one of the things that's been great about

1866
01:00:40,545 --> 01:00:43,025
your show is that you're so early on

1867
01:00:43,025 --> 01:00:43,525
this,

1868
01:00:43,824 --> 01:00:44,804
that in

1869
01:00:45,585 --> 01:00:48,644
for the the viewers get the opportunity to

1870
01:00:49,025 --> 01:00:50,244
make moves accordingly.

1871
01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:52,719
You know, you you give them enough advanced

1872
01:00:52,719 --> 01:00:55,199
knowledge that they can do x, y, and

1873
01:00:55,199 --> 01:00:57,920
z now as opposed to after the fact

1874
01:00:57,920 --> 01:00:59,599
when it's already happened when or when it's

1875
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:01,119
safe to discuss it. You know, we we

1876
01:01:01,119 --> 01:01:04,079
were gonna talk about vaccines and RFK Jr.

1877
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:05,925
And all that stuff. But, like, you know,

1878
01:01:05,925 --> 01:01:07,305
like, once once

1879
01:01:08,005 --> 01:01:09,704
your fit once Piers Morgan

1880
01:01:10,005 --> 01:01:12,324
and Tucker Carlson are talking about, well, maybe

1881
01:01:12,324 --> 01:01:14,184
we should ask some questions about the vaccines.

1882
01:01:14,244 --> 01:01:16,485
It's too late. It's three years three years

1883
01:01:16,485 --> 01:01:17,765
too late. So,

1884
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:21,059
when you're early, you sound crazy.

1885
01:01:21,679 --> 01:01:24,079
We know that. Mhmm. But it doesn't mean

1886
01:01:24,079 --> 01:01:26,260
that we are. So I'm I'm

1887
01:01:26,639 --> 01:01:28,800
I I hope that people take the time

1888
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:30,639
to to to wrap their heads around this

1889
01:01:30,639 --> 01:01:32,864
to to the extent that they can and

1890
01:01:32,864 --> 01:01:34,625
and connect with their family members and or,

1891
01:01:34,625 --> 01:01:35,905
you know, the people that will listen to

1892
01:01:35,905 --> 01:01:37,585
them. And maybe it's not always your family.

1893
01:01:37,585 --> 01:01:39,764
Sometimes it's sometimes it's just strangers

1894
01:01:40,144 --> 01:01:42,224
Right. That that that connect with you a

1895
01:01:42,224 --> 01:01:44,065
lot more than, you know, than your best

1896
01:01:44,065 --> 01:01:45,664
friends who you would think would listen to

1897
01:01:45,664 --> 01:01:47,025
what you have to say about this, and

1898
01:01:47,025 --> 01:01:49,079
you find out otherwise. So so it's a

1899
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:51,000
pivotal time. It's a real important time to

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01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:53,400
not get lulled into this, false left right

1901
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,559
paradigm, you know, to see it for what

1902
01:01:55,559 --> 01:01:57,800
it is and and to recognize that if

1903
01:01:57,800 --> 01:01:59,340
we are not careful,

1904
01:02:00,039 --> 01:02:02,280
we're gonna get ourselves in a situation where,

1905
01:02:03,114 --> 01:02:06,075
those fifteen minute cities aren't theoretical. They're they're

1906
01:02:06,075 --> 01:02:06,815
they're actually

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01:02:07,195 --> 01:02:10,335
happening, and, and it's controlled by the technocracy,

1908
01:02:10,474 --> 01:02:11,295
and we

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01:02:11,835 --> 01:02:13,755
we cheerlead it on. I I just don't

1910
01:02:13,755 --> 01:02:15,454
know that if I could live with myself

1911
01:02:15,594 --> 01:02:17,375
if I saw what was coming

1912
01:02:17,710 --> 01:02:19,710
and didn't speak out about it. Yeah. Yeah.

1913
01:02:19,710 --> 01:02:21,309
And whether they call it freedom cities or

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01:02:21,309 --> 01:02:22,829
or or fifteen minute cities. I mean, just

1915
01:02:22,829 --> 01:02:24,510
ask Honduras. It's already happening. Right? I mean,

1916
01:02:24,510 --> 01:02:26,510
it's very clearly that this is is going

1917
01:02:26,510 --> 01:02:28,670
forward. But and since you comment on that,

1918
01:02:28,670 --> 01:02:30,190
I'll include I was gonna we didn't get

1919
01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:31,390
into it, but I'll include my show on

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01:02:31,390 --> 01:02:32,829
it from yesterday if you guys wanna know

1921
01:02:32,829 --> 01:02:34,555
more about that conversation. You know? And what

1922
01:02:34,555 --> 01:02:36,074
I love about our conversation, Charlie, is it's

1923
01:02:36,074 --> 01:02:38,155
organic. Right? It's just I'm just talking points

1924
01:02:38,155 --> 01:02:39,355
we have lined up, and I just love

1925
01:02:39,355 --> 01:02:41,434
having these conversations with you, man. But, I'll

1926
01:02:41,434 --> 01:02:41,835
also,

1927
01:02:42,635 --> 01:02:44,394
comment on one on one thing I think

1928
01:02:44,394 --> 01:02:45,994
is interesting is that it jumped into my

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01:02:45,994 --> 01:02:46,815
head that

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01:02:47,195 --> 01:02:47,594
Gaza

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you know, a lot of people ask, you

1932
01:02:50,210 --> 01:02:52,289
know, especially with the kind of America First

1933
01:02:52,289 --> 01:02:53,969
discussion, why, you know, why are you talk

1934
01:02:54,050 --> 01:02:55,730
care caring more about that? Which is funny,

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01:02:55,730 --> 01:02:57,250
even though we saw in the midst of

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01:02:57,250 --> 01:02:59,409
this early administration where they were pointing at

1937
01:02:59,409 --> 01:03:01,010
Europe and everything else, and they didn't care

1938
01:03:01,010 --> 01:03:02,369
when that was happening. But the point is

1939
01:03:02,369 --> 01:03:03,905
that that my mindset is that it all

1940
01:03:03,905 --> 01:03:05,985
matters clearly. But if you want a reason

1941
01:03:05,985 --> 01:03:07,925
to make the connection, like you were highlighting,

1942
01:03:08,224 --> 01:03:11,045
Gaza has been existing in a digital prison,

1943
01:03:11,184 --> 01:03:13,264
both kinetic and digital, but for a long

1944
01:03:13,264 --> 01:03:15,905
time. Okay? And so they understand what our

1945
01:03:15,905 --> 01:03:17,480
future looks like right there. And then if

1946
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:18,920
you wanna look at a point where that's

1947
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:20,760
your future's coming or like they say that

1948
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:22,599
next year next, I mean, that's where this

1949
01:03:22,599 --> 01:03:23,880
is right now. As much as they're trying

1950
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,800
to it's almost like everything it's like the,

1951
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:27,960
you know, accuse that accuse you of that

1952
01:03:27,960 --> 01:03:29,319
of that which or it has no what's

1953
01:03:29,319 --> 01:03:30,440
the saying? Accuse them of that which you

1954
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:31,965
are guilty. Right? Like, accuse them of what

1955
01:03:31,965 --> 01:03:33,724
you're doing. Right? It kinda seems what's happening,

1956
01:03:33,724 --> 01:03:35,164
but that's a good thing to think about.

1957
01:03:35,164 --> 01:03:36,845
But whether you think that matters or not,

1958
01:03:36,845 --> 01:03:38,365
the point is, as we've highlighted today, this

1959
01:03:38,365 --> 01:03:40,605
is clearly something that's building around you. So,

1960
01:03:40,605 --> 01:03:42,045
you can choose to accept that it's gonna

1961
01:03:42,045 --> 01:03:43,325
be for the good re right reasons, or

1962
01:03:43,325 --> 01:03:45,005
you can just be objective and show discernment

1963
01:03:45,005 --> 01:03:46,610
and question all of it, which I hope

1964
01:03:46,610 --> 01:03:48,450
we can all do, you know? But, anything

1965
01:03:48,450 --> 01:03:49,969
else you wanna throw out there, brother, like,

1966
01:03:49,969 --> 01:03:52,050
update a venture? I I I hope that

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people will,

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will go to activistpost.com

1969
01:03:55,410 --> 01:03:57,329
Yes. And bookmark that as a as a

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01:03:57,489 --> 01:03:59,809
as an additional source of information. You don't

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01:03:59,809 --> 01:04:01,255
have to you don't have to get rid

1972
01:04:01,255 --> 01:04:03,815
of anything that you're currently using. Just just

1973
01:04:03,815 --> 01:04:04,554
add this

1974
01:04:05,014 --> 01:04:06,614
also, and and take a look at the

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01:04:06,614 --> 01:04:07,914
articles that we're republishing,

1976
01:04:08,375 --> 01:04:10,934
because it's, there's a lot going on around

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01:04:10,934 --> 01:04:12,554
the world. We've got

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01:04:13,500 --> 01:04:14,000
fearless,

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independent journalists that I'm republishing over there.

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01:04:19,260 --> 01:04:21,579
We're talking about the things that will get

1981
01:04:21,579 --> 01:04:23,739
you kicked off of most platforms, but that's

1982
01:04:23,739 --> 01:04:25,840
okay. And and we need

1983
01:04:26,264 --> 01:04:28,184
we need the viewers' help. If there's something

1984
01:04:28,184 --> 01:04:29,944
that you, that you find out there that

1985
01:04:29,944 --> 01:04:31,784
you like, please share it with your friends

1986
01:04:31,784 --> 01:04:33,625
and family or those that you think will

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01:04:33,625 --> 01:04:35,545
listen. We're adding a share feature, a social

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01:04:35,545 --> 01:04:37,144
media share feature that should be up this

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week. Nice. So, we we have some fun.

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There's a podcast section there as well. You

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know? I know that people get their information

1992
01:04:43,610 --> 01:04:45,550
of our a variety of different ways. Sometimes

1993
01:04:45,610 --> 01:04:47,930
you wanna watch it. So or listen to

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01:04:47,930 --> 01:04:49,610
it. You we've we've got you covered there.

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So I hope people will will check out

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activist post and naturalblaze.com.

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And I will see you in at, Third

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Eye Carnival in about a month. Are you

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01:04:58,835 --> 01:05:00,355
gonna be there for the for the birthday

2000
01:05:00,355 --> 01:05:01,974
party before or just coming for the carnival?

2001
01:05:02,114 --> 01:05:04,994
I'm coming Friday, Saturday, Sunday. Good. So the

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third?

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Is Is that the third?

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01:05:07,730 --> 01:05:09,250
I don't know. Fourth, third. The third just

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01:05:09,250 --> 01:05:10,530
the third is so basically, we have the

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01:05:10,530 --> 01:05:11,650
the third the third night carnival, and we

2007
01:05:11,650 --> 01:05:13,010
have but the day before it starts, we're

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01:05:13,010 --> 01:05:14,609
doing the Steve and I's little personal birthday

2009
01:05:14,609 --> 01:05:16,769
party. I'll miss the birthday party. Everything else,

2010
01:05:16,769 --> 01:05:18,250
but you're welcome to come. So everyone I'm

2011
01:05:18,369 --> 01:05:19,889
we're just gonna be sitting around jamming, like,

2012
01:05:19,889 --> 01:05:22,204
kind of at that location before. So Awesome.

2013
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Awesome. I encourage everyone to go. I mean,

2014
01:05:24,105 --> 01:05:25,805
coming back I just got back from Anarkapulco

2015
01:05:25,945 --> 01:05:28,184
where I was emceeing that that event. And

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and

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they don't want us meeting in person. That

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is for sure. They they do not like

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01:05:32,985 --> 01:05:35,065
that when when when we when like minded

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01:05:35,065 --> 01:05:36,744
people get together, we come up with great

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01:05:36,744 --> 01:05:38,960
ideas. We start to network. We we we

2022
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,320
make connections that that, are international in scope,

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01:05:42,320 --> 01:05:44,800
and these events are crucial. So if you're

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01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,960
somebody out there that that wants, hey. You

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01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:49,440
know what? Make this your, incorporate this in,

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01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:50,960
you know, weekend into your,

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01:05:51,755 --> 01:05:53,195
your vacation. You know? Get out there and

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01:05:53,195 --> 01:05:55,594
meet some some like minded people from around

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01:05:55,594 --> 01:05:57,914
around the country, and, and you you'll be

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01:05:57,994 --> 01:05:59,914
you'll feel a lot. But afterwards, you know,

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01:05:59,914 --> 01:06:01,515
we did this in in Pueblo for the

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01:06:01,515 --> 01:06:04,329
Third Eye Carnival last last, summer. It was

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01:06:04,329 --> 01:06:06,250
fantastic, man. It's it's just it's a great

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01:06:06,250 --> 01:06:08,429
place to to connect with people and,

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01:06:09,210 --> 01:06:09,869
and and

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01:06:10,329 --> 01:06:12,329
and, you know, and then you you go

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01:06:12,329 --> 01:06:13,690
off and you've got a little bit you

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01:06:13,690 --> 01:06:15,289
feel a little bit better about yourself if

2039
01:06:15,369 --> 01:06:17,214
okay. I'm not the only I'm not. Right.

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01:06:17,214 --> 01:06:19,394
You're not alone. Sees this. I'm not alone.

2041
01:06:19,534 --> 01:06:21,694
And and the especially after the isolation of

2042
01:06:21,694 --> 01:06:23,454
the couple years of COVID, what that did

2043
01:06:23,454 --> 01:06:24,434
to people psychologically,

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01:06:24,815 --> 01:06:26,255
it's really good to meet in person and

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01:06:26,255 --> 01:06:28,094
connect. So I look forward to meeting you

2046
01:06:28,094 --> 01:06:30,929
in person in about a month. Outstanding, brother.

2047
01:06:30,929 --> 01:06:33,030
Well, I'll see you then. And as always,

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01:06:33,090 --> 01:06:35,250
everybody out there, question everything. Come to your

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01:06:35,250 --> 01:06:36,869
own conclusions. Stay vigilant.