Well, it's a funny thing in this business.
It seems that every day, it's easy to
go, man, it just keeps getting crazier. Every
day, more news comes, and every day, the
cycle gets more full. And every day and
it just keeps it becomes this kind of,
like, constant statement where you say it's just
a lot of news to talk about today.
And but what's interesting is that it does
genuinely feel like things are becoming more intense.
The fever pitch is rising. Like, information cycle
is getting ridiculous even if it was I
mean, if how it could get more ridiculous
is beyond me. But I decided to invite
Charlie Robinson on to have a conversation about
the independent media and some new moves that
he's made around that, but also just to
catch up with him and and discuss how
wild things are today. And I'm I'm sure
you guys are paying attention with some of
the recent moves that are going on in
foreign policy that we'll talk about, but we'll
see where the conversation takes us. So, Charlie,
thanks for joining me, brother. It's good to
see you. Thanks for having me. Yeah. There's
a lot to,
discuss these days, and I agree with you.
It seems like you know, I remember years
where there wasn't really much going on. It
felt felt like there wasn't a huge story,
and now it's it's every other day. There's
something
crazier than than than the last time around,
and it it feels
a bit destabilizing,
almost
overwhelming.
So I think it were it's probably,
incumbent on us to stay measured
and remain calm and take in all the
information to the extent that we can
and and see where things go. But it
I agree with you. It it feels like
the intensity level has been ramped up. Yeah.
I mean, so do you think that I
mean, I think it's always we could probably
both argue that it's always some level of
deliberate action. But just on that first idea,
do you sense this is something that's sort
of just like a, you know, evolving kind
of chaos because everyone's you know, or or
do you feel this is deliberately being ramped
up for something? We can get into that
too late in the discussion. But Well, there's
there's bound to be chaos when you have
a changeover in Yeah. Administrations,
especially when you go from one like the
Biden's,
you know, who they were you know, who
knows
really who was in charge of that and
that we're sort
of just
starting to get a a handle on some
of the criminality that was going on behind
the scenes. And then Trump coming in, and
Trump's always a bull in the China shop.
So you should expect
the unexpected with him as well.
And when you take the two of them,
I think the contrast is so so stark
because there were there were times when you
just looked at the administration
of of Biden Harris and you thought,
are they doing
anything? I mean, what are they doing? I
know they're they're trying to destroy the soul
of the country by, you know, turning everybody
into drag queens and and and
incentivizing some bizarre behavior.
But besides that,
what are they doing? It felt like for
the last six months or so, they were
just running out the clock trying to maybe
get out of there. And then when Trump
comes in, he's like, you know, it kinda
reminded me of when Obama came in. When
Obama came in, it was like
the reports were on day one that his
team, as soon as he took his hand
off
the Quran or whatever he he swore allegiance
to, his team was sprinting into the White
House to get things going and start that
process. And and I felt that again, obviously,
I think everybody did with the Trump administration.
Now like them or hate them or, you
know, have problems with this, what they're doing.
It's undeniable that they're doing something, and and
it feels like they're sprinting into this. And
I think for some segment of the population,
they're okay with that because at least they
feel like something's getting done. Now once you
peel it back, there's there's problems with a
lot of things that are getting done, but
there's it's undeniable that there's a lot of
action taking place. And I think people were
sort of waiting for someone to come in
and actually do something. It's like you're the
president of The United States.
Aren't you supposed to be
issuing orders and and getting in front of
the camera and telling everybody what what's going
on? I mean, Joe Biden was afraid of
the camera. His from before he's right. And
while he was running, he campaigned in campaigned
in his basement. And then when he became
president,
everybody was, you know, he was bubble wrapped
and everyone was scared to put him in
on that stage for fear that he'd
couldn't get off of it or he'd fall
down or, you know, he'd say something ridiculous
or he'd talk about ice cream. And so
there was that very uncomfortable feeling like, okay.
The less in front of the public, the
better with this guy. And with Trump,
he's just he's out in the public. He's
going
he's being Trump. Yeah. Exactly. So so I
think that in some regards, people
are probably viewing that as a positive that
at least things are getting done and you
you start to see, like, hey. He's he's,
you know, he's he's doing something to USAID.
Okay. Good.
Yeah. Where
it's National Endowment for Democracy Next. Please take
them down as well. Right? Or or what
is it? And then you peel back and
you go, well, is he destroying them or
is he putting them under the state department
so that he has control over them now?
I mean, what what exactly is happening? So
I think that for depending on where you
are in your understanding of
how this government actually works,
I think that dictates sort of how you're
feeling about the first couple of weeks, but
it's undeniable that there's been enthusiasm injected into
it. If if for no other reason
in the for the business side of things,
you know, if you're
you know, you're somebody who's who's or you're
let's just say you're a you're a small
to medium sized business. You have to extrapolate
out and make plans a couple years out
and figure, am I gonna hire? Am I
gonna invest in this? Am I gonna take
on? Am I gonna start an am I
gonna do a new
a new office somewhere? Am I gonna expand?
Am I gonna contract?
With the Biden administration,
everybody felt tense. Nobody really knew what would
happen. I can't really plan for the future
because they may send
OSHA in here to mandate some new crazy
law. And now I've gotta reconfigure my entire
restaurant. I've gotta build an an an indoor
version
outside
with tents, and I've gotta spend all the
money on that. I've gotta make the outside
look like the inside because the inside's covered
with COVID, and we're all gonna die. So
but so I made in the inside actually
outside and and oh god. You know? So
if you're somebody who's running a business,
just knowing that the next couple of years,
there's at least a little bit more clarity
on regulations
and where things are going and Or lack
thereof.
Yeah. Or lack thereof. Right. So you you
can
you can plan accordingly. And I think from
a business standpoint,
that community is seeing this as a positive.
Yeah. You know, I I'm really I like
the way you laid all that out right
there. There's a lot to get into. And
I I think what's interesting, though and you
tell me what you think about this because
I can't stop seeing this everywhere. And I'm,
of course, trying to, like, you know, check,
make, and make sure I'm not just trying
to you know, it's it's I think this
is very transparent that there's ways that they're,
you know, setting us up to like, using
things we want to believe in order to
usher in something worse kind of a dynamic.
Right? But what what's interesting, though, is, like,
the action part. Right? I mean, this is
what I mean. It's like you this doesn't
have to mean this was deliberate. It could
just be the way it actually just worked
out. But if you look at the way
these things function, you know, you got Biden
who again, at the time even, before he
even tried, it's kinda like, this guy is
it's ridiculous. Like, clearly, he's, you know, the
whole the whole weekend at Bernie's joke. It
was like, that was before he even was
elected. You know? It's like it's clear that
we all see this. And so you put
this person in there that's just inept. And
and then like you say now I think
we can all stand we can look at
things and whether it's good or bad. Action
does not mean positive. It just means action
or could be bad. But in Biden's situation,
you're right. It seemed to be like a
very you didn't see a lot. That doesn't
mean there wasn't stuff happening, but I agree
with your basic sentiment that that was ultimately,
you know, what was really happening. But is
that because, ultimately, this was the way this
was supposed to play, right, to where now
we get the Trump rushing in with exec
you know, executive orders instead of actually doing
what we would expect,
claiming all you know, criticizing executive orders and
everybody else than coming into this this, you
know, just roughshod right over everything. You know?
And so but that's my thing is that
if that happened after somebody else that was
more measured, they even Republicans might go, woah.
Woah. Woah. You know? But now it's like,
well, good. That's the contrast. And so it's
like rationalizing the thing we would otherwise go.
Wait a minute. Shouldn't we do this the
right way? You know? And the same thing
is that I I would argue rather than
the same thing, but to your other point,
I would argue that in the context of
businesses, I see a mixed bag, actually. I
get what you what you're saying, and I
think that my opinion is that's coming from
the opinion that Trump is going to do
right, whatever they see him doing. I get
the sense of a lot of people that
even Republicans are going like, woah. What is
happening right now? Way more than with Biden,
in a different way. Like, because there's a
lot of rugs being pulled and things shifting
and companies and and agencies go you know?
The point is right now, I don't think
you can plan at all with what's happening.
Even if you think what he's doing is
in good interest. You know what I'm saying?
Like, there's a lot of shifting ground right
now. I'm talking about if you I'm not
saying if you work in some capacity where
you interact with the government so much. I'm
talking about if you're if you're a businessman
who owns a lumber store in I'd say
same point. Iowa. You know, you you're just
feeling like, okay. I feel like a little
bit of sanity has been injected back into
this. I I don't worry that he's gonna
come in and and
and weaponize these departments to to make me
have to reimagine my entire business.
And So this is about the woke politics
overlap. Right? Which I think is another huge
element of this, is that, ultimately,
we have been set up to think that
woke politics is the end all be all
of the of the new word order or
the or the end which is just, I
think, a very minor aspect of a means
to an end to what they're really trying
to accomplish. And so if it's only about,
like, and and whatever else we're talking about
from that kind of Biden democrat perspective of
what they're trying to do, which I tend
to think is just our government from a
different flavor, then ultimately that makes it easy
for them to think that whatever now is
happening, it's better because that's not there. Except
I keep seeing a lot of very a
lot of uncertain people because of even Trump
supporters, they're just like, they don't really know
what this will end up being because they're
you know, Elon's talking about all regulations and
all, which ultimately, in my opinion, is if
if government is still the way it is
and you remove regulation, that's not what we
think it is. Right? Government should be gone
in my opinion, and then that will be
good. But if you have the government structure
we have and they remove regulations, all that's
gonna mean is dumping stuff in your water,
getting away with whatever they want. That's how
I would read that. You know? And, hopefully,
that's not the case of what's going on.
But,
but but you we always have to be
careful to to
Yes. We're not getting walking into a trap.
Right? It's like, oh, you wanted we got
rid of the the weekend at Bernie's guy.
Now we got a guy who actually get
thing gets things done.
The question is, what is he going to
get done? You know, he's really good at
it it and and, of course, that, he'll
do this to the enthusiastic support of his
base. The the people on the right will
cheer this stuff. Whereas if if it were
you know, if he had a Biden mask
on, they'd be apoplectic about it. I mean,
the the executive orders and whatnot, I mean,
like you said, there there's a lot of
reasons
to be skeptical about these things. But Let's
let's focus on that point right there real
quick, though. The idea of the executive order,
like, the idea that I if if they
if there's a group of people out there
that would would rage if it happened with
a d next to someone's name, but argue
it's a positive thing with an RNX to
the name, that to me is hypocrisy. Blame
to me. Right? And I think that's important
because I think that's literally everywhere in the
conversation, which makes it very uncomfortable because As
I hold up my book, hypocrisy. Go ahead.
Sorry. Go ahead. As I hold up my
book Hypocrisy Right. Right. Right. The
second edition is just out. I was just
thinking, yeah. It's it's hypocrisy is, like, baked
into the equation. Right? I mean, it's it's
when when one side does it, it's a
problem. When the other side does it, it's
somehow fine. And and that's the that's the
problem of of if you really wanna get
things done that are detrimental to the Republicans,
get a Republican in there to to sell
it to the rest of the base. You
know? You'll get him in there, and there
won't be the sort of, scrutiny
scrutiny that you would hope would
would happen from, the general public towards any
of these. If it look. If it's an
executive order,
that's a that that means that it's just
by decree, and and that's that's a huge
problem. I mean, I I thought we've we
wanted to get away from governments being able
to just decree this.
The the problem is that these these people
will rationalize that by saying, yeah, but it's
a good thing that he's doing. Right. And
it's like, it doesn't necessarily matter that it's
a good thing that he's doing. It's the
method in which he's doing it is inherently
bad. But this is interesting, though. This is
interesting. And, see, it's funny. I I this
is I love these kind of just planned
shows, like, where we don't have because I
just I just we go into a conversation.
I wanna talk about it. So it's active
at post and the rest of this work,
but we're already jumping right into it. But
so this is really important, though. The, you
know, the idea that we can see the
way I mean,
I almost just lost the thread there. Hold
on. So, basically, what what just say what
you just said again. Well, that that when
you're when you're using executive orders,
when your guys using executive orders Oh, oh,
okay. I got it again. It's thunderous applause.
When your when your enemy is doing it,
it's somehow, oh my god. This is a
catastrophe. But it's like, no. In actuality,
that whole method of doing that is gross
and has no part here. The only thing
that that it's getting support because the things
that he's
ordering are the things that really should have
been in in the first place and shouldn't
have had to you know, you shouldn't have
to do this. And the fact that he's
doing it,
is is is viewed as a positive, but
it's like, you know, it'd be better if
we could do it a different way, and
then it would feel a little bit more
organic and less dictator ish. And and, of
course, you know, you you clap when he's
when he's,
making moves to
to secure the border
without understanding the bigger picture of, you know,
once he secures the border, then we've got,
we've got problems with,
you know, how is he gonna keep everybody
from coming back? Is it biometrics?
Is it Yeah. Is he scanning eyeballs and
things like that? So you feel like, be
careful
because we might be problem reaction solutioning ourselves
into a much bigger
play that the general public hasn't really thought
of yet. I think that's the whole conversation,
in my opinion. But I think the evidence
is very clear that, you know, the steps
are going that direction. What I was gonna
say before is and this is an interesting
conversation because I'm very concerned with all of
this. But if you stand back and take
away all the partisanship from it, Biden, Trump,
remove it all, and we're just looking at
just like an apolitical dynamic that's even possible.
You know, we we all can acknowledge that
the system is so just crazy broken. Right?
It's set up to fail and or so
they basically rationalize the same problem every time.
Right? Because I get it. Well, Democrats are
gonna not let them do whatever he wants
to do. That's probably true. Right? So, ultimately,
the executive order becomes the necessity because they
have to do that to get beyond the
problem, and it never really goes away. It
just kinda cycles around. So but outside of
the partisan side, I I think we all
agree that there is a broken dynamic. And
let's just say somebody did actually want to
do a good thing for a long term
positive change to get away from the situation.
You could argue why you understand that logic.
Right? Because otherwise, it's not going to happen.
And I so this is we've we've been
set up in this moment for a very
long time, in my opinion. And so I'd
like to believe, and I'm still hoping that
Donald Trump and the rest of what they're
doing will be what they believe it is.
I I think everything right now is showing
the opposite, but I'm still hoping that. My
point, though, is that it's so easy to
see how that works to where he's gonna
come in and let's just take the USA
point. Right?
Mhmm. Right? Executive order, which by the way,
legally speaking, only applies to executive branch. So
I don't know why we think, like, these
things make sense foreign policy wise and everything
else, but it ultimately
strikes that down. So people like us are
like, f. Yeah. That's been that's a regime
change front. We've been calling this out for
a very long time. Right? That's fantastic. But
then it ultimately becomes very quietly. Most of
the base doesn't even talk they talk about
it. Online, you're getting pushback saying, no. It's
gone now, which you know, rightly, has just
simply been absorbed in the State Department, which
technically was already kinda what it was, to
be honest. And so now and then you
got Rubio saying, now I'm taking control. And
even though today we see them, getting rid
of, you know, all the employees and all
these different moves, we just don't know what
the outcome will be. And it seems to
me that it only ends up being the
same problem in a very more centralized way,
like with Elon, the Treasury, and all these
different moves. And so it's like, I would
get why we would like to see somebody
break it all and do it in a
better way, but like you said, going about
it this unilateral way that doesn't that just
you're it's just corruption in a different flavor.
You know what I mean? Like but even
if you do the right thing in the
outcome. And so I guess we're all it
just it's this very dangerous path we're on
where people are cheering what I see as
their own subjugation because they're tearing down parts
of what we see, like the fed for
a private tether CBDC dynamic. You know what
I mean? Right. And so I'm just super
on guard for that. And so but I
think that conversation's worth having. You know? What
would we do if we were in a
position where somebody really wanted positive change and
they were never gonna let it happen? It's
like revolution
or this action. You know? I I also
don't know. So it's it's difficult even for
me knowing I my opinion is I don't
trust this, but the logic is there. You
know? I don't I don't trust any of
on any of it either. And when they
do something that on the surface seems like
it's a benefit to us, you always have
to keep keep your eye on the other
hand that the magician has behind his back,
you know, what is he really doing? Are
you being set up for something else? And
that is, I think, I think that comes
with experience
with with doing this and watching
how governments operate and seeing the tactics that
they use, you know,
any good propaganda is about 90% truth, you
know. I mean, so they are gonna tell
you the things that you wanna hear, and
you are gonna nod in agreement with it,
and it might all sound good, and it
might be exactly what you want. But it
could be just that small little bit that
you didn't calculate, you know. Great. USAID getting
dismantled. That sounds amazing. That should have happened
a while ago. But then you have to
ask for where where is the okey doke
here? Is it well, it's gonna be moved
in the state department. Okay. So is it
is it going away for real or is
it go is it getting a new boss?
And if the new boss is Marco Rubio,
and Marco Rubio has the same sort of
ideology as all these other lunatics,
then what are we doing, really? I mean,
is it is it really getting changed? I
mean, I like the idea,
and and certainly,
it it's good for the optics to see
all these,
deep state scumbags
scrambling to try and find out where their
money is going, and you hear Hillary Clinton
talking about this, and Chuck Schumer's talking about
an unelected coup and the the audacity,
you know,
of of all of this. And you you
and also all the all the right people
are freaked out about this, and you go,
yay. Yeah. Yeah. This is great because you
want to see those people feeling uncomfortable.
But you always have to kind of look
and wait and see how it gets played.
You know, once the headlines you know, it's
out of the headlines and it's sort
of, you know, it we're in the we're
in the process where we've now the media
cycles moved on to something else. Well, what
is USAID
doing? Let's say the second half of this
year? Are they still,
I I mean, does it just shift away
from Ukraine, and we're not gonna be involved
in the Ukraine situation anymore because that's terrible.
Meanwhile, they're just setting up shop in Israel.
You know? I mean, I think They're also
funding Ukraine still. Trump just rerouted Of course.
Weapons from Israel to Poland is going to
Ukraine. And Israel's continued to fund Ukraine anyway,
and they they fund Israel. So, you know,
it's all a shell game at the end
of the day. That's important, though, for people
to hear. They don't know that that the
funding to Ukraine and weaponry has already continued.
And so at the billion dollar package that's
about to go to Israel. You know? And
so it's like these these continuation of it.
But I agree completely. You know? But what
you said there is interesting, though, you know,
and this is the same kind of question.
So the Shumers, for example.
I mean, it's it's almost too perfect to
watch this, like, weird back and forth between
Elon and Schumer or, like, in congress we
just saw where they're like, Elon's framing it
as, you know, the deep state democrats are,
like, it's only one half the paradigm, are
are
freaked out and whining because we're, you know,
exposing their crimes. And it's just like, I
mean, anyone that would actually step back and
think that even USAID or any of these
is only one part of the paradigm, I
mean, that's fun. You could objectively prove that's
not true going right through Trump's last administration.
So it's just so shallow and hollow. You
know? But so my point would be that
do so Schumer is saying these things, and
so are a lot of them. Right? And
what's interesting is I think Schumer is an
obvious, obvious criminal.
You should just dishonest person. Like, all of
them in my opinion, but definitely Schumer. But
he's saying things that you go, well,
outside of a few of the different partisan
sides of what he's saying, it's technically accurate.
Right? I mean, what he's saying is very
clear, but you go, that's interesting. Like, Katharine
Austin Fitts made the same point. She's like,
first time in my life ever agreed with
Chuck Schumer. I saw that. And which is
funny. Right? And so my question is, do
you think that Schumer is actually pushing back
on this, which would highlight for me what
Whitney what Whitney highlights? You know, the kind
of the changing of the guard, like the
old neocon, neoliberal,
tech technocratic. They're kind of both wanna control
your lives and will work together for that
end, but want to do it themselves. You
know? Like, that kind of that kind of
fighting versus
maybe it's all a show.
I'm kinda leaning that way at this point,
like, the way it's all being shown, but
what do you think? It's well, at its
core, it's all pro wrestling Yeah. On some
levels.
And and and, you you know, how
Hulk Hogan becomes the the heel all of
a sudden. Right now now we've got a
new narrative. Now we got brand new story
lines. That'll keep us going for the next
couple years. And now they're now the Democrats
are gonna, you know, they're gonna stand up,
and they're gonna fight back against this authoritarian
regime of Donald Trump and everything. And you
go, oh, you know, it feels
like a show. I think Chuck Schumer legitimately
is
upset about this. I think he's I think
there's a grift going on
that has always been sort of underneath the
surface. These guys that, you know, obviously, we
see the Nancy Pelosi's of the world come
in come in broke and leave with a
hundred million dollars in the in their account
now whether that's insider trading or money in
the Cayman Islands or a little of both,
you know, or money that that Zelensky's saying,
well, you know, we're supposed to get a
hundred and 77,000,000,000,
and we we we can all we we
can only account for 70 something. You know,
where's the rest of that money? Well, we
try we should we trust him at face
value because that makes sense. Right? Of course.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not like
like he didn't squirrel a bunch of it
away as well. But it but,
you know,
we know that there's a skim going on.
And anytime you go in there and disrupt
what's been happening for the last couple of
years, I can imagine I can very easily
envision a scenario in which the Chuck Shumers
of the world are legitimately angry Mhmm. Because
it is messing up their their their grift.
Now maybe that money is getting rerouted to
somebody else, and now for for the next
four years, that person is going to be
benefiting from it. And when the new administration
comes in, if it's Democrat and they make
some changes, then that person will be,
incensed about it because now all of a
sudden his grift has gone away. But, I
mean, I think the common denominator here is
that if you if you put yourself in
a position to be in Congress for multiple
decades,
you are a criminal on some level, whether
we know it or haven't figured it out
yet.
But the job by design
precludes good people from getting involved and actually
fix fixing the system. And anytime, you know,
somebody comes out, wants to,
you know, wants to blow the whistle on
any of this, they, you know, they
fund his, opposition. And next thing you know,
he he's out. Like, what's his name?
Matt Madison Cawthorn wants to talk about the
the part stay for the, you know, for
the night time parties, you know, the late
night after parties and everything. Next thing you
know, he's he's he's gone. Right? So so
if you play ball, meaning
you're a criminal, and I think that
that
Washington DC at its core
attracts the worst types of personality
types in there. You know, if you've got
a place that will give you everything that
a sociopath would want, maybe it's money,
it's power,
it's sex,
it's access, it's it's women, it's children, whatever
it is that floats your boat. They're gonna
know where your control points are, and they're
gonna give you exactly what they want, what
you want
in order to get you in a situation
where they own you. And after a
while, you know, these people are all at
the same parties they're owned. You know, it
it reminds me of the part in Whitney's,
in in the first book of, One Nation
Under Blackmail where they're talking about
the,
the parties that J Edgar Hoover would go
to at the plaza
Mhmm. That were set up by Roy Cohn.
And, like, Hoover shows up in drag
to everybody at the everybody in the party
knows it's him. Right? He shows up in
drag, and and the the thought process behind
that is it's mutually assured destruction. You know
what I mean? I got the goods on
you. You got the goods on me. What
are we gonna do? Let's party. You know?
We're all part of this club. And so
understanding that, I think, makes you think makes
you kind of understand that,
sure, Chuck Schumer is still and has always
been a criminal operating there. And part of
what he's doing, I'm sure, is theater.
But I also think that there's a he's
probably recognizing that one of his
lines of, resources has been shut off by
a guy who who,
you know, had the ability to do it
in Trump. And I think that that's I
think that some people that are watching it,
the casual
political
observers
that don't like the Democratic Party probably see
that and they go, oh, this is fantastic.
Whatever makes Chuck Schumer angry,
is is something that I would I will
support regardless of whether it's unconstitutional
or whether it's bad for country eventually. As
long as I see the guys that I
hate get what they have coming to them,
I the ends justify the means. And that,
of course, is a huge problem. It is.
And it's a partisan thing. It's left and
right. And it's in my opinion, it's just
pretty much anybody that's in you know, I
there's it's there's a divide, but I would
say more the team sport politics side of
it, but it's largely a partisan thing to
just, you know, it's rah rah my team.
You know? And we just see it's more
than ever today, and it's frustrating. And I
get why they want that. They've been driven
into that position, but this is the problem.
It's like the thing I was saying with
the woke politics. You know, it's you get
these major influencers that make every little thing
about as long as they call out the
woke, the pronouns, and the DEI, that nothing
else really matters or how they do it.
And or in the other same kind of
point, if it's just like, even the way
the crash dynamic ended up kind of devolving
into just, well, this democrat connected. It's like,
pull now that went from transpilot to, well,
that she worked for Biden. You know? It
just gets crazy. And so the problem is
that that is a a hollow situation, you
know, in in my opinion, anyway. So as
long as they're going after, as you said,
the democrats, that we just ignore it. You
know? And so it's this kind of thing,
you like that,
zero hedge. Sherry says, oh, you gotta be
kidding me. And all it really is is
Chuck Schumer saying an unelected shadow government now
aside from the word shadow government,
which it's debatable, deep state shadow government, we
all have our different opinions on these things,
but an unelected
entity is conducting a hostile takeover for government.
I flatly agree with that, except I also
think that it involves with Zionism and technocracy.
But did you say you don't?
Did you say you go ahead. No. No.
I'm in agreement with it. Oh, yeah. I'm
sorry. If you don't, I'd like to hear
your thoughts on it. But so what what's
interesting is that, you know, Alex Soros reposted
what else that's what I was gonna highlight,
and that's what they're upset about. And then
Catherine often says that's the problem. The last
government was lawless, so now it's cool for
this government to be lawless. America's social media
promoting the idea that
lawlessness is cool. I've been talking about rampant
lawlessness since George Galloway made a big point
about that. Fashionable. Abrogating contracts is cool. Genocide
is cool. AI bots teaching that killing people
and taking over their land is the latest
style, and real men don't bother with law.
I love that she framed this just right.
You know? And so all ends up being
is, well, you know, look, Sorrows and Schumer
and there that's the thing. And so we
know we're on the right side no matter
what we're doing. And it's just it's just
so constant. And we're being led down that
path. And, you know, so do your thoughts
on that. And then let's overlap this with
the obvious that is how all of them
support the Israeli dynamic, which undermines the entire
point, I would argue. Of course. Yeah. It's
a choose your own adventure book. You know?
If you would if you'd if you'd had,
Kamala and and she
became the president, then you'd have more DEI.
You'd have more wokeism. You'd have trainee story
time mandatory. You know, it'd be it'd be
more of that the gender component, which is
Mhmm. Which is disgusting and gross. Horrible. Yeah.
So Trump gets in, that whole segment goes
away fantastic, but let's be very careful with
what Trump represents. That's, I mean, do you
want tranny story time or do you want
technocracy? Because that's even more diabolical when when
they start to bring in,
you know, you look at the people surrounding
him, the
the Silicon Valley guys, Joe Lonsdale and Elon
Musk and and Peter Thiel and and this
group out there that has the technological capacity
to build the digital prison around you. And
in fact, all they really need is the
enthusiastic support of enough of a base
to, to push it, and and we'll be
begging for our own enslavement, unfortunately. So I'm
I'm I'm glad
I mean, take the victories where you can.
Right? I'm glad that the wokeism stuff is
going away. It should have never been there.
The ESG,
DEI side of things is nonsensical.
It it was against any sort of logic.
I mean, these guys are all running
fortune 500 companies that this goes against anything
they learned in,
in b school because, you know, you're prioritizing
the wrong things at the expense of of
the importance. So for that to go away,
great. And I'll take that as a victory,
but I am not delusional.
I fully recognize that we could be,
getting rid of one
problem and enabling
a second one, which is this
this concept of, you know, the
push for
CBDCs
or the stable coin component of that. The
ideas
of, you know, we're gonna get all of
these
unwonteds
out of our country. We're gonna throw them
all out. And to make sure that we're
gonna do that, we're building not just a
wall, but a digital wall to keep them
out. And, yeah, it's just gonna be for
the,
you know, for the illegals
at first. That'll be the sales pitch. Right?
We're just gonna scan their eyeballs and make
sure that we've we've got them in the
database. And then eventually, it'll be, well, you
know, it works so well. Why don't we
just make it so that every time you
fly in and out of an American airport,
you gotta do that as well, you know,
for your safety, of course. And we can't
we can't let the illegals get on airplanes
now. Right? So we have to do that,
you know, because they're gonna so you can
understand how they can walk you into this
in in a way that will be done
with
with the support of the public, which is
gross. But, if you're not understanding
the bigger picture, if you're not able to
see a couple steps ahead, you may be
cheerleading your own enslavement.
Yeah. I absolutely agree. I I would also
just add, though, that I hope people can
stand back and at least consider. Ask the
question. Is it not possible that wasn't sort
of a evolution
or a you know, that this was a
win, and now this is something separate happening?
Even though we can all acknowledge that that
distancing, which technically is not even completely gone
even in this country, by the way, but
overall being pushed aside is a good thing.
It's they ask the question whether it's possible
that it could have been designed that way
in order to bring something so outlandishly stupid
and so obviously inconsistent. Like, even like I
was pointing out, the WPATH, like, leading hospital
in the world on this conversation,
months into this was going they're being rash
with treatment for kids. I mean, I was
showing that right in the beginning, and it
just went on forward. And so that it's
it's it's it doesn't make sense. And so
you wonder what's why would that keep going?
And now in I would argue it's at
least possible that it's because now we're gonna
kick that aside, and we get that feeling
of winning and only it's a step and
a means to an end. Right? Because I
think you've talked about too the idea of
the transgender overlap with transhuman transhumanism
conversation For sure. Which is not an opinion.
I mean, you can look at literature going
back a while that where there was a
clear overlap to that. I just think that's
worth asking, you know? And so but, yeah,
overall, take a win where you can, but
don't let that blind you to where, you
know, using the win. Not just as a
next step, but then using the win to
roll in the next problem. I think that's
kinda what we're dealing with right now. And
I'm not entirely pessimistic. I think the facts
back that up. You know? You have to
be you have to ask the question, were
we allowed to win? Exactly. Exactly. And that
doesn't yeah. It's it's set up for a
much bigger agenda that's going on that you
you whipsaw out of this into something more
authoritarian. And so, fine, we got rid of
the the transgender, but we've moved into transhumanism.
Do you know the entomology of the trans
transhumanism
name? It's like it's a rebranding of eugenics.
That's what it is. And once you understand
that, it's not,
you know, a guy lost his arm in
a farming accident. We've got a bionic arm
for him. That's the sales pitch, of course.
But it it the the transhumanism
component is blending man with machine
into something else, into something that is transhuman.
Well, is it transhuman
enough, you know, when you add enough mRNA
technology or enough,
Neuralink chips to your brain or you enough
of this stuff, at what point do you
legally
become no longer human?
And if you're legally no longer human,
does the constitution apply to you? Do laws
apply to you? Are you now less than,
are you a, like a slave, a slave
species now? Because you're
because you're not technically human like everybody else.
I mean,
it it's a dark road, of course, and
and nobody wants to really dwell on it.
But I think it's worth
understanding
what the longer term play is. And and,
of course,
we've been conditioned to make short term decisions
at the expense of long term decisions based
on fear, based on the government scaring the
hell out of us. And we say, oh,
you know, stop daddy go whatever. Just make
it go away. Make that make it stop
right now in this moment,
and in exchange, well, it's gonna cost you
some rights, and it's gonna cost you more
money, and it's gonna cost you things that
you have to give away in order to
ensure your safety. And, of course, that is
by design, and that freaks me out, of
course. Absolutely. I mean, it kinda sounds similar
to the way the US government and others
use their sanction dynamic, right, where you sanction
the civilian population, which is always what it's
about. And so they suffer to the such
a great extent to where they're like, look,
we know you're doing it, but we don't
even care. Just make a stop, and we'll
let you take over. You know, that's what
it kinda comes down to. Yep. And here's
a clip just showing you the overlap, which
I'm sure everybody's aware of. But the the
clip in general is the one stop kind
of, like, every box check for the great
reset and World Economic Forum dynamic, but just
the transhumanism part from Elon Musk. An effort
for man to merge with machine in a
healthy way. Yes. To beat machines, you basically
have to merge with machines. Most likely. Yes.
Yeah. And I just think that's important to
hear. You know? Like, this is and and
that's not silent. It's funny how he checks
a lot of those boxes, like, very bombastically,
and yet people kind of, like, give them
give them a pass on the like, he
he's, like, all about the electronic vehicles, and
it's just so funny how people would
tear apart another republican for kind of similar
conversations.
But, yeah, but I think it's important that
we ask these. And even last point, Don,
it's you think that whether, you know, even
just a genuine win. Like, you know, somebody
genuinely does it, that's all they wanted to
do, and they accomplished it, could still end
up then being used by somebody else to
roll in something bad. Like, this, we always
have to ask this question. That's, hey, that's
question everything. Right? That's what we're always talking
about. Yeah. Well, we don't have the CBDCs.
Yay. It's a win. We've got stable coins.
And stable coins, it's stable. It's in their
name. It says stable. Right? It's all stable.
You don't have to worry about them. It's
like, well, are they programmable?
Well, yeah. I mean, yeah. But why would
we they're stable. Why would we program them
to do anything? It's like
so,
again, you there's a these guys are are
we'll say what we will about the the
deep state or the octopus or whatever. They
know how we think. They understand how to
manipulate public opinion.
They understand how to get people whether it's
this is coming from Tavistock or, you know,
a long long history of psychologically
profiling people and understanding
how public relations works and
and propaganda
and all of this. And and
we're really at a severe disadvantage
as the average person when it comes to
understanding
that the government
knows you better than yourself, and they know
how you'll respond. And so in order to
get you to
to take something like transhumanism
seriously,
they've got to have a a a pitchman
who's who's way better. I mean, you can't
sell
the concept of global communism by showing drab
Soviet style buildings and bread lines. Right? It's
gotta be like a glossy
timeshare sales pitch. Like, oh, it's gonna be
fantastic, and you're gonna have you're not even
gonna need to work. I mean, AOC said
that even if you don't wanna work, work,
she put it in her Green New Deal.
You know, you'll have all everything will be
provided for you. Isn't this great? And it's
like, well,
yeah.
That sounds great, but what is it really
going to be? And I think that that
that once you understand that the government is,
is very
very astute when it comes to manipulating
the way you perceive things,
we have to be very careful about these
these guys that are thrust upon us as
saviors like Elon Musk. You have to ask
questions about what what he's real I mean,
if it, look, if it's if he's just
about making money,
that's one thing. Mhmm.
But it's never about that. Once you
can buy anything that has a price tag
on it, you start looking for things that
aren't available for sale, like the education system,
if you're a Rockefeller or Carnegie or something
like that. So or or, you know, the
pharmaceutical industry, if you're if you're the Rockefellers
as well coming through there and say, well,
let's create these new industries. So a guy
like Elon Musk, who has
in in concept, all the money he'll ever
need, you have to ask questions about
what is he really trying to do. It
it it appears to me that he's trying
to buy things that don't have price tags
on them. I agree. And to your point
about how well they know us, I would
argue just like you ended with, that's because
they run our social media platforms and spy
on us with their surveillance. And, you know,
it's the AI infrastructure. All the people that
I argue are presenting themselves as the saviors
are the ones that are building this around
you. That's what I can't stop seeing, but
I hope I'm wrong with that. But this
is
what do you agree? Is that what you
said? Yeah. I agree. Yeah. I hope I'm
wrong too. I mean, I wanna be optimistic.
I don't wanna be,
the new
black pill.
Ryan, we can't be black pill. No. That's
the new that's the new derogatory
term. That's the new term to get you
to stop
listening to people who are being honest about
things. Right. If it if it sounds negative,
it's like, oh, you're black. You know, Whitney
obviously is taking the brunt of this. But
Yeah. You know, do you you're black pilled
and you're a doomer and you're the this
and that. Look. If I'm
honestly and accurately
extrapolating
out what I see
currently, where it's going, and I talk about
it, and it has a negative
tone to it, it doesn't make me black
pilled. It makes me honest
and realistic. And maybe by talking about it
now,
we're more aware of it and and makes
it more difficult for it to happen in
the future. Maybe it's maybe it's the actual
white pill of all. Like, let's let's have
the conversation now while before it's too late.
Right? Exactly. Well, that's what's so frustrating. I
mean, all all I see in that is
just yet another example of the co opting
of terms. Right? Far back as you wanna
look, when, like, regime change used to be
a conspiracy theory, now it's like regime change
for freedom. You know, it's like, it's just
crazy how these things evolve. You know, I
would argue that that's I mean, you know
this. I mean, black pill is about somebody
that's going, we're doomed. We're screwed. I'm not
gonna do anything. Right? That's that's what that
means. We're coming out and going, I see
a big problem building here. I hope that's
not what he's doing. I'm praying for the
best. Here's alternatives. It's like, how will you
ever deem that black field? I mean, we
know why. Because that's a problematic thing that
we're highlighting for people that don't want that
to be seen. That's why I would see
that. But
or purity test. You know, this was pre
election. It was just like, just let us
pick between lesser of evils. Don't stop raining
on our parade is what we got. You
know? But so this is where I think
the obvious part is to overlap. And we'll
we'll end make sure I wanna make sure
we get into, especially the fact that you
took over act as post. I'm really happy
about that. But and and IMA and some
different things we'll talk about. I was gonna
start with it, but you know how I
fly by the seat of my pants.
But let's let's talk about the overlap of
this conversation we were just having with with
the Israel dynamic because Yep. I don't know
how anybody can engage with this honestly and
not stand back and go, okay. Well, at
the very least, they're either blackmailed, compromised, or
dishonest in regard to this point in the
conversation. That, I mean, that to me just
seems like it's blatantly clear. I don't know
if you've seen in the updates. I think
we were talking about earlier the ultimate point
that now Trump is I mean, he was
sitting next to Netanyahu, next to a fire.
As Netanyahu smiles with this disgusting
grin as he literally outlines how Gaza's hell
on earth completely destroyed
and how they're going to ethnically cleanse the
entire area. So, should I play it real
quick, or have you already seen it? Yeah.
Play it. Yeah. It's worth watching again.
Would Palestinians
have would Palestinians have the right to return
to Gaza
if they left while rebuilding was happening? It
would be my hope that we could do
something
really nice, really good where they wouldn't wanna
return. Why would they wanna return? The place
has been hell.
It's been one of the meanest one of
the meanest, toughest places
on Earth.
And right now, it's it's I've seen every
picture from every angle
better than if I were there,
and nobody can live there. You can't live
there. And agree So if we can build
if we can build them through massive amounts
of money
supplied by other people, very rich nations,
and they'll be they're willing to supply it.
If we can build something for them in
one of the countries, and it could be
Jordan, it could be Egypt, it could be
other countries, and you could build four or
five or six areas. It doesn't have to
be one area. But you take certain areas
and you build
really good quality housing, like a beautiful
town, like some place where they can live
and not die.
Because Gaza is a guarantee that they're gonna
end up dying. The same thing's gonna happen
again. It's happened over and over again, and
it's gonna happen again as sure as you're
standing there, Peter.
So,
I hope that we could do something where
they wouldn't wanna go back. Who would wanna
go back?
They've experienced nothing but death and destruction.
Hi. Give me your thoughts on that, brother.
Because the guy next to you is doing
the death and destruction. Oh my god. Why
is this impossible for him to see? I
don't You think he can't see it? Right?
I think he's no. I think he sees
it. I think he sees it.
I think he see I mean, look. I
don't even know
that you need to blackmail Trump. I think
he's ideologically
aligned with this. I don't think that the
conversation
is you better do this or else. I
think he's looking at this as a real
estate play. He's looking at the offshore oil
in oil and gas fields. He's looking at
building a new pipe you know, a a
new canal through there, the Greater Israel project.
I mean, he's looking at this like a
developer,
and he's seen massive opportunities.
Forgetting the human cost, the fact that you
heard that one reporter
scream out, it's their home, you know.
Why do they have to leave? Yeah. Why
do they have to leave? Because this guy's
magic book said something about I mean, it's
it's preposterous
and gross and a stain on humanity and
embarrassment to The United States, but it's not
surprising either. I mean, I
I knew
that when Trump got in there,
you know, every every administration is is completely
compromised. Let's let's be honest here by Israel,
and and we know that. We know that
they have minders that show up in in
in congress as soon as they get elected,
and we we understand this. This is nothing
new.
But Trump is such an enthusiastic
supporter,
and and they have bent over backwards, you
know, to to make him, you know, his
first time around to to Trump Heights. And,
you know, they're talking to him about all
of these opportunities there. You know, his his
son-in-law,
Jared Kushner, is
a diabolical figure who needs to be,
you know, taken down to the police station
and interrogated for his role in crimes against
humanity as well. I think all of these
people are dark
dark entities. I think Benjamin Netanyahu is one
of the most disgusting human beings I've ever
seen in my entire life.
An embarrassment for the Jewish people who
see him, you know, who have him as
a leader. And again, to separate the
the Jewish people from the Jewish government, you
know, from the Israeli government in the same
way that I would hope they would look
at us and say, we understand that not
all Americans are the American government, and they
don't want the same things there. I mean,
I think that there are people
that that
that see this for what it is as
a genocide.
And and
and and given that that's what's happening right
now, I'm not going to be silent about
it. It's obvious
to even those who don't have the eye
to see it, what's going on. I mean,
it's been, you know, maybe the in intricacies
of, like, what really happened,
in October of twenty twenty three. Was this
allowed to happen? Who is Hamas? Who are
they financed by? Their you know, who brought
them into existence? What is you know, you've
got Bebe saying, you know, we need Hamas.
You gotta pay you gotta finance Hamas. I
mean, they're we we have to have that.
Funny, you know, a lot of people don't
ever see that part of it. So so
controlled opposition is a real thing.
This is an accidental.
What happened on October 7 wasn't wasn't some
catastrophic,
lapse in security.
It it was nine eleven all over again.
It was the same excuse.
The same excuse. You know, mistakes were made.
We were asleep at the wheel.
Those those
diabolical
Arabs, those 19 Arab hijackers with box cutters,
they caught us off guard, they they, you
know, we we flew planes around in circles
trying to find them, we just couldn't figure
it out until it was too late.
Yeah. Yeah. I've heard that, you know, I
I know what really happened with 09:11. And
when you see October 7, it's the same
thing all over again, just chapter two.
And for those with the eyes to see
it, it's very obvious. For those who can't
understand or refuse to understand the game, they're
living in a parallel universe as far as
I'm concerned. I mean, to to look at
this and say they had it coming to
them,
I I can't I can't understand that line
of thinking.
I I I'm I'm I have to be
of the mind pardon my sanity that there's
just no way that that's the majority of
people even remotely on the planet that would
look at what's happening even if they disagree
politically and go that's what they get. Like,
that is a Zionist overwhelming agenda
through our propaganda networks, which clearly are powerful.
I think on the reverse of it, I
think the vast, vast, vast majority of individual
people in the world are sick about what's
happening. I think so too. I think so
too. The problem is, of course, and we
we all know this, is that the media
amplifies Right. Whatever opinion they want to to
be perceived as being the overriding,
you know, feeling of the nation or of
the the region.
But when you talk to actual people who,
you know, nobody wants this. Nobody is in
is is pushing for this except for a
outside of a small,
very bloodthirsty Zionist regime that has bigger pick
bigger aspirations
than,
than just
coexisting,
with with their neighbors. They they have been
very vocal. It's not our opinion of it.
It's their they talk about it. It's not
me. I don't have to speculate. I don't
have to go into some meditative tramps and
and write quatrains about what I think is
going on. They write books about it. They
talk openly about it. This is the plan.
They have a greater Israel patch on their
uniform. Right. It's not it's only hidden to
the extent that people choose to not look
for it. But once you open your eyes,
you can see what's going on. It's a
it's a it's a stain on humanity, frankly.
It's disgusting.
And I would add though, and this is
this is an uncomfortable topic even on top
of this, but I would add that it's
important to highlight that it seems pretty easily
identifiable
through polls and other public conversations that a
majority of Israelis support the genocide. I think
that's important to highlight. Now when I when
I It's it's sad. I think I think
the majority. Not everybody. Of course, we'll be
clear to to make sure that not everybody
is in support of this. But Yeah. Really
quick. Let me clarify the statement. That's what
really because then I'll let you say what
I was gonna say is that I do
that's clearly improveable. But I would argue that
what's important to consider is that what we
see in The United States is the similar
dynamic of people that support war, for example,
because we've been so aggressively propagandized our entire
lives. That I'm not trying to give everybody
a pass because that's still horrifying, but it's
important to think about that part of it.
And there's also a pretty large fall grouping
of people in Israel that don't support this.
You know, Orthodox Jewish communities and so on.
So please go ahead. I just wanna make
sure I can They've been they've been they've
been vocal about that. And and and and
we, of course, need to make sure that
we differentiate between
the Zionist
regime and,
let's just say, Jews in general. You know?
A lot of them are opposed to this,
and and and see no benefit to it.
And they're they they wanna live their lives,
and they don't have an interest in dominating
their neighbors. But but, of course, unfortunately,
those in a position of power do, and
they make it happen. And then through their
control of the median messaging
and their control of the politicians, they,
facilitate this. And and next thing you know,
I mean,
America is supporting it. Now I have a
problem with that. If I go out and
travel internationally
as an American,
I have to
I hope that people don't make the assumption
that because I'm an American in their country
that I somehow sign off on all the
crazy things that our government is doing. I
mean, obviously, I'm
hosting and emceeing the largest anarchist conference in
the world. So probably people don't think that
unless they don't know me. But but still,
I I wouldn't want people to make any
assumptions that I'm
in
in favor of this simply because I happen
to have been born in America.
Exactly. Same point should be applied for Israelis
or Jewish people in general or, you know,
any other conversation we're having. That's always the
way to look at that. Let me play
this real quick based on what we just
saw just because somebody clipped out just him.
And, I mean, I saw this while I
was watching it too, but just seeing it
cut out on its own, I mean, I
just it's it's so
transparent.
Trump is talking about the suffering of people
in Gaza. There's no way around that, and
this is what Netanyahu is doing the entire
time. They wanna return. The place has been
hell.
It's been one of the meanest one of
the meanest, toughest places I've been on earth.
And right now, it's it's I've seen every
picture from every angle
better than if I were there,
and nobody can live there. You can't live
there. And if he So if we can
build You know, we guys it's like the
cat that got the canary. You know what
I mean? Like, look at this guy's face.
Look at that. He's so I mean, I
don't know. And then, often, I'm sure somebody
would look see it. Right now. Would see
it and think differently. That's a personal opinion,
but my god.
It reminds me of, Whitney talking about,
Wexner saying that he has a demon inside
of him. Mhmm. He looked demonic there. He
does. It takes glee in this. There's a
there's a manifestation
of evil in that guy's head. To to
and and then the pulling out that putting
the chair, you know, pulling Trump pulls out
his chair, put his chair back and forth.
Boy, I mean, are you guys on a
date? I mean, is this Valentine's Day? What's
going on here? This is it's gross and
Yeah. And transparent
for for people that are that are watching
this. I think that that, you know, Trump
had had a lot of enthusiasm, and and
and I think a lot of people in
the general public were
were supporting
some of the changes that he was making
quickly.
And and you would see and then as
soon as this happened yesterday, it's like, hey.
I was, you know, like, people were saying,
I was on board with a lot of
the stuff he's been doing, but, boy, this
is really disgusting. And I and I can't
support this at all. I
it's a mask off moment, I think, for
for a lot of people to see that,
to hear him talk to hear Trump talking
about what what he wants to do to
to them and justifying it as if it's
somehow, like, well, we'll just, you know, like,
you know, it's almost like, oh, your, you
know, your your house in Pacific Palisades burned
down. Like, we'll we'll relocate you to Westlake
Village. No problem. Like, no no sweat. Like
and it's like, no. No. No. The point
is I wanna be where I was. Mhmm.
I wanna be where my home was. I
wanna be there because it's always been my
home. I wanna be there for I wanna
be with my people. You have no right
to do this. This wasn't some natural disaster
that just happened to hit the Palestinian people.
This was done intentionally
by design. And then, yeah, in the aftermath,
oh, this place is a is a total
dump. It's it's rubble. Yeah. You guys did
it. You got you made sure that that
that it was that way. Of course, it's
it's hard to go wanna go back there,
after you've destroyed it. That was the point.
You rightly called this out from the beginning,
and, people called you, you know,
I don't know, they probably thought that you
had an axe to grind against Israel for
for rightly
saying, this is where this is how it's
gonna play out. This is what they want.
They're gonna destroy it, and they're gonna, you
know, they're gonna they'd rather beg for forgiveness
than ask for permission. And when you're Israel,
you don't you do neither, actually. Yeah. Yeah.
And on on Trump and the way he
engaged with it, you know? I mean, like,
that's why I said right when we first
first looked at it. You know? It's certainly
possible. And the reason the only reason I
say this, it's always I mean, it's possible.
But the reason I even say it is
because I think that
the way he responds, it's possible that maybe
he just somehow doesn't understand
that like like, the the history part of
it. Right? How that's possible? I have no
idea. But, you know, the way he does
I mean, how do you or
he's just that Netanyahu was like, say exactly
this because this makes I I mean, because
think about what he's saying, that these people
are in hell or, like, it's always been
bad. It's like, how do you not understand
the context even slightly of what you're saying
right there? You know? And I I think
it's because you get into this bigger part
of the conversation
that, like, as Glenn points out. And it's
it's funny to me how
Glenn Greenwald's saying this, who, by the way,
I, I believe he's he's Jewish. Isn't he
not like that's even the most relevant he
is, I believe. He's Jewish and he was
a democrat. Right.
And and and saying I'll just read it.
Gaza is now rebel because of the sociopath
sitting next to Trump grinning knowing he owns
The US. Think about saying that a decade
ago, a few years ago. The point is
you would have been immediately
cast out of society, you know, and this
is this is the reality. This is not
about Jewish people. This is about a government
influencing, if not occupying and controlling, another government.
And, I mean, I got called a white
supremacist for simply pointing that occupation point out
right, like, kind of right after the COVID
nineteen idea. I just think that's wild to
think that Glenn you know, I are you
of the mind that this is public knowledge
at this point for most people?
I I guess it depends on their level
of understanding or or how how how busy
they are in their daily lives. I think
a certain segment of the population gets their
news and sound bites and headlines, and they
don't dig too deep. And they and and
or maybe they feel like, well, what do
I need to I don't need to I
need to get my kids soccer practice. I
don't need to know about this. What am
I gonna do? What am I but I
think that anybody who's actually paying attention, I
think, yeah, they say they see this. But
you can see it on and I know
social media is not the best mirror, but
you can see that, like you mentioned,
there are topics that are now
allowable
to to be discussed that that wouldn't have
been a decade ago. And so that's that's
not because everybody woke up and became antisemitic
all of a sudden. It's because the behavior
of the people in that in that country
has been
disgusting and people are rightly calling them out.
And it's kind of like back in the
COVID era where
everyone had to wear masks and you go
into the grocery store without your mask on.
You'd just walk in like there wasn't a
care in the world, and somebody else in
the produce section with their mask on would
see you and they'd they'd go, oh, yeah.
And they'd pull theirs down a little bit.
Bit. They'd be emboldened to sort of say,
yeah. You're right. This is kinda crazy. Why
am I doing this? And I think that
there's been enough people that have been blowing
the whistle and sounding the alarm on the
many crimes of Israel that at some point
people go, yeah. You know what? You're right.
There this is a huge problem. I mean,
they they feel a little bit more comfortable
talking about it. Now we
take the most heat about
any of these topics, be it COVID, vaccines,
Israel, whatever, because we're speaking about it in
the moment when it matters the most. Whereas
the
mainstream alternative media parachutes in three years later
and then they wanna have the discussion about
vaccines. It's like, I'm glad you're talking about
it, but where were you in 2021
when we needed you, right? When it really
mattered, when people were being throttled and shadow
banned and thrown off of social media
for having opinions that were correct, but were
just early. So when you're early,
you look crazy,
but that's okay with me. I don't really
mind. Right. Well, what's funny is what you
outlined right there is exactly what I'm now
seeing on, like, a presidential or just, like,
a government level, like, where the idea being,
you know like, it's I it's hard. Like,
when you say that, I'm like, maybe I
don't think I am glad they're talking about
it. Right? It's like it's like, okay. If
if we know they're only beginning to talk
about it insofar that they get you into
another manipulation,
which is what ultimately seems to be is,
like, is that positive that they see it
if it's only trapping them in some of
them another ideological game? You know, it's it
it it's hard that it's a debate because
it is good that it's being talked about.
But, like, my point is everywhere I look
today, I'm seeing that kind of setup for
failure. You know? And so, as always, just
be on guard to that. But but what's
what's incredible, by the way, in in in
extension of this one meeting they had I
don't know if you're following the pager thing
or, like, the Batar USA group, the Zionist
organization that's literally threatening American students with pagers.
They're going around. They're doxxing people. They're trying
to get people who are wearing Kifas
deported, going calling ICE, like, using what Trump
just did, like, trying to get Americans deported.
Netanyahu gives Trump a golden pager in reference
to Mossad op on Hezbollah. You know, one
of the most obvious terrorist acts I've ever
seen in my life. And he gets a
golden pager. Not and let's not forget, this
guy is literally he's supposed to be arrested
on-site because he's a criminal according to the
ICC. Or but, you know, anyway, I just
wanted your thoughts on that. I think that's
a a threat. Or Right. How do you
read that? Well, Menachem Begin was
stressed that he was the godfather of international
terrorism.
Mhmm. Proudly
corrected somebody when they when they tried to
say that he was, you know, just sort
of involved. No. No. No. No. I invented
this. So it's a terrorist
state.
It's a terrorist ideology.
I'm not surprised. It's gross and and
and
and disgusting on its face, of course. But
am I surprised? No. No. A golden pager?
I'm sure Trump will put it on his
mantle. You know what I mean? I guess
what I'm getting at though is that, you
know, look. There's a lot of conversation about
and we kinda just touched on it about
whether, you know, I I even though I
do agree Trump is, like, ideologically in support
of this, that he gets a lot of,
like some of the people in Israel, even
in the Knesset, believe he's a prophet. They've
said that publicly. It's alarming. And so I
think he gets a lot from that. But
I still just can't wrap my mind around
how belligerent this is and knowing there's half
his base that doesn't support it. And so
I just wonder whether there is more, like,
is this a subtle thing? Like, keep in
line. You know what I mean? Like, it's
a personal opinion, but it's worth throwing it
floating out there. I thought that was interesting.
It it may be. But, again, I don't
know how much they need to keep him
in line. I think he's in line
of his own accord, and I think that
he's he's opportunities here.
That being said, if he were to ever
get out of line,
I'm sure they could manage to to put
him back.
But
but the idea that that it's just a
subtle reminder.
Yeah.
Our pagers
today, it's something else tomorrow.
And the fact that they were bragging about
that and
not distancing
themselves from that, saying, well, We didn't do
that. I mean, we didn't do the pager
thing. I mean, with the Mossad came out
and said, yeah, we did it. We've been
planning it for a long time. Like, keep
that in mind. Actually, when I see something
like that, I'll tell you where my mind
goes to. When they're bragging and taking responsibility
and sort of playing up this, that I
actually see that as a sense of weakness.
I do too. I absolutely do. I mean,
maybe they're they're projecting
out
how
diabolical
and,
infiltrated
everybody you know, how they how they are
so far ahead of everybody else, and it
might be a bluff. I mean, it's it's
it obviously wasn't a bluff that it that
the pager situation happened, but their strength might
be a bit of a facade.
It's a good point. I mean, even if
they are actually strong or actually that good
at what they're talking about, I still I
mean, I think this is kind of a
general psychological thing that the person has to
pound their chest and say, I'm big and
tough is usually just insecure at the very
least, possibly not that tough at all. Like,
that's that's a good and I think I
I got the same sense that a lot
of this is them constantly going, like, you
know or even the propaganda. Instead of just
going, we didn't do it and it's a
lie, they have to make it some ridiculous
over the top lie that makes you go,
well, that's obviously not true. Like, why would
they go that far? I think it's insecurity.
I'll I'll include this show a show we
did about that main point, which overlaps with,
in light of the pager attack,
how much Israel has infiltrated American tech. And
let's not forget, it was mostly women and
children that were killed and injured by that
attack, which is wild to me. But let's
let's oh, and I always wanna include her
tweet about build back better in Gaza, which
she called, by the way. Effrot Faganston was
like, this is about build back better. Now
I don't see Republicans talking about land grabs
and great reset with this conversation.
But I also wanna play this clip about
the prop the atrocity propaganda where they mentioned
the idea of burned babies alive.
I get this is where I'm get like,
does Trump really not know that this has
been shown to be false? I mean, Biden
got exposed
and looked very stupid for making these claims,
and now here's Trump doing it too. How
do you how do you read this by
as anything other than Israel showing the control
they have over our government?
It's interesting, isn't it?
Yep. Very much so. This one here.
The Israelis have stood strong and united in
the face of an enemy that has
kidnapped, tortured,
raped, and slaughtered innocent men, women, children, and
even
little babies.
On that infamous day,
Hamas monsters
savagely
murdered 1,200
innocent people,
including more than 40 Americans.
They beheaded men.
They raped women.
They burnt babies alive,
and they took 251
people hostage.
So for those that don't know, almost every
single thing they said has been literally proven
to be false by horets, by Israeli media,
by even US media. Even the number 1,200
is technically not accurate, taking the full amount,
And then we can realize that almost half,
if not a lot more, based on a
lot of reports, were killed by Israel themselves.
Right. These are public reports. Go ahead. What
are your comments? Oh, I mean, we're I
would love for somebody in the audience to
raise their hand and ask the question. Could
you explain the Hannibal directive, please? Right. Right.
Please. Or name the babies that were oh,
you mean the point is that this is
these are false. It's a it's the the
the burn, the beheadings, even the rape conversation.
I mean, as as a team, you cover
as well. And I I always say, damn
them for making us have to stand up
and go, I don't believe that's true. Like,
I look at the facts. You know? It
it's a horrifying thing to have to do.
There's no line in the sand they won't
cross, though, either. I mean, they wanna make
you be on the defensive, and you have
to stand up and say, I believe
that your story
is a lie. I believe that you would
and and are currently
standing in front of that microphone
and lying about babies being burned alive
because
that's who you that's, you you know, that's
the type of person that you are. You
would lie about something
as serious as that. Now to be clear,
if there were babies being burned alive,
that would be horrible, of course. But
they know that that would be horrible,
and that's the reason why it's the story.
The story is always horrible. And then later
it's, you know, there's well, you know,
corrections are made. I always find it interesting
that Haret is
is one to to fact check this too.
I mean, you would
my assumption would be I I mean, I
know how controlled the American media is, and
I would assume that the Israeli media would
be just as controlled. So when they come
out and go, look, we got problems with
the Palestinians, but they didn't do any of
this stuff. Like, these these are lies.
That to me is
I think that's progress, unfortunately. It's not going
to help the
Palestinians now. But
the tone
around the world has definitely changed.
Of course, you know, in the the the
UN and then the ICC,
you know, you you see who really runs
it. You know, all it takes is for
The US and Israel to vote against something,
and then it it it doesn't wind up
happening. But the rest of the world appears
to be
well aware of what's happening. And, of course,
in The Middle East, they've been dealing with
these these this group for a long, long
time. They know exactly what they're capable of.
They know that there's no line in the
sand that the Israelis won't cross and then
cross again.
And, and I think that
the world appears to be waking up. My
fear is that it might be too little,
too late.
Yeah. I mean yeah. I mean, it it
I would argue as always, never a reason
to stop. Right? But I like, I think
people like us, even if we knew we
were never going to succeed, we would just
it's in us to fight anyway. I think
that's who we are. But I agree. And
it's it's just I think that's why this
is being so rapidly done.
Well, I mean, I would say
the fact that this is being so rushed,
like, we even felt during COVID nineteen, gives
me the feeling that may that there is
still a possible
possibility for us to make something different happen.
But but I would agree it's, you know,
it's it's hard to not see that with
how belligerent this all is and especially with
the point of where, you know, which I'm
sure you also saw, where now Trump is
literally saying that they were gonna take over
Gaza, like, Occupy Gaza.
You know, this is you know, he used
to at least give you, like, a a
week, a month in between the evolution of
how ridiculous these things shift. But it's like
day to day to day. It's like the
thing you just said would never happen is
now rationalized on day three. It it's it's
ludicrous to me. But, did you any thoughts
on this or just in general, it's the
same kind of point? You know what I
mean? This is step further. It's a tactic
too. Like, we we just he'll it's the
art of the deal. You'll go so far
over. We'll say, we'll take you know, The
US will take over Gaza and then the
the the general public's responses, that sounds crazy
and insane. Okay. Fine. Fine. Fine. We won't
do that. We'll only finance the rebuilding.
You think that that it's a good point.
So you don't think you don't think it'll
actually materialize the US government on the ground?
Anything. It's already happening, by the way, but
Anything's possible with with regard to this,
with Trump administration and the the influence of
Israel. I would say that normal normally, I
would say probably not, but unfortunately, with with
regard to Israel, I think there might you
know,
I I think anything's possible. It's great. Everybody
appears to be controlled.
Yeah. Yeah. But it's an excellent point. I
mean, we should always consider this because that's
almost always how it goes, right? Where you
get the problem, reaction, solution style where it's
like the overreaction. We go, no, not that
crazy thing. And they go, okay. Don't worry.
We've got the thing we've always wanted. And
they go, oh, thank god. You know? It's
like the thing that they wanted from the
beginning. And so, actually, when you say that,
it it could realistically
be, oh, okay. Fine. We heard you. We
listened to you. We're your government. We won't
do it, but we'll just finance Israel taking
over Gaza, which has always been the point
from the beginning anyway. But something tells me,
like you were kinda hinting at, though, that
there is something different happening now, you know,
and that this is not just about the
extension or rather, you know, Israel taking what
it wants. It's about the continuation of this
I mean, this is the global the globalist
new world order dynamic, technocracy. I think it's
all of this, and now they're, I mean,
talking about North American Union, Greenland, Mexico, all
the rest. Israel is occupying Syria, Lebanon, all
I mean, and they're expanding. As you just
said, the greater reset or greater, greater Israel.
It's all very clear that this is happening.
You know? And so to me, that's what
that seems to highlight that they're moving into
this point. You know? We're moving into the
seventh country in five years.
Right? You know what I mean? Exactly. Iran
and Marco Rubio. It's right there. We're we're
we're crossing all these off the off the
list. And and we knew this too when
he was when he was floating Rubio as
a as a, secretary of state. We went,
oh god. You know? This is gonna be
like, a Which the base said was a
troll. You're being looked at? That'll never never
happen. And then now they all cheer for
it, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's gonna
be a blank check for Israel. They're gonna
be able to do whatever they wanna do.
Yeah. Yeah. This is this is part of
there's a lot going on right now. And
and I I I fear
a much larger escalation too,
of course, because you you know they've got
the there's I mean, it's like they're not
gonna stop with this. Right? Well, we've got
rid of the Palestinians. Who who's next? Let's
let's expand out. Let's you know, when do
we when do we fight Iran? When do
we when do we con when does Israel
convince The United States that it's in their
best interest to go to war with with
Iran who's done,
by all accounts, nothing to us?
He's got four years.
You know? I hear that. I think it's
gonna happen way faster than that, unfortunately. I
hope I'm wrong. But one more point on
this. Let let's talk about the, you know,
what I see the future of independent media,
which I see is very positive right now,
quite frankly, despite all the craziness going on.
That interesting, you're getting a lot of this
kind of queue side of the conversation where
Trump just opened the door to parking US
military in Israel's front lawn during our long
term op to defang Israel because that's the
whole save them for last queue idea, you
know, and made them thank him for doing
it on live TV by using their own
mask to box them in. Masa just got
freedom range motion crippled and, you know, basic
idea being that this is The US playing
into the idea we're helping you, but really
there to ultimately stop Israel for once and
all, you know, after letting them commit a
genocide for a year or two months, you
know, but that's that's sort of like letting
them take the shot that kills them for
the interest of whatever play that means. I
just I can't take any of this kind
of stuff seriously. But what I overlap it
with is I very much think that Q
and all that is just a CIA,
whatever intelligence dynamic,
is that you have
Trump coming out like you might have seen,
which by the way, you wanna search for
this on Twitter, it won't show up, which
I find very telling. The CIA must get
involved now before it's too late, Trump said
in January second of this year. And you
have nicked orders saying, breaking the CIA just
offered the entire workforce to quit exchange for
eight months of pay. Wow.
Vision for the blind says, the CIA allegedly
offering its entire workforce the option to quit
for eight months pay. Pay sounds like a
CIA psyop in itself. You really find it?
You know? And and so I think it's
all interconnected. You know? And I just wonder
how easy it might be for them to
just roll this into the next move by
holding on to what they hope is gonna
happen. You know? What do you think? The
queue the queue part is interesting too. I
agree. It's it's it's just some intelligence agency
doing this, but
like any good propaganda as we mentioned earlier,
you gotta have some truth in there. So
is it plausible that The United States could
double cross somebody? Oh, absolutely.
We that's our specialty. That's their that's what
they've been doing for a long, long time.
So this idea, like, oh, The United States
is secretly going to double cross Israel when
the timing is right. Once they're there, like
I mean, maybe, but I'm not gonna hold
my breath on anything like that. It just
sounds a little bit too much like, you
know, when it when it was trust the
plan, the the part of that that that
I think was the most
diabolical part was that you would get these
people,
you know, all in a tizzy about what's
going on and these very major problems. And
then the the the strategy was, okay.
What we need you guys to do is
go stand in the corner and wait. Right?
Trust the plan.
The cavalry's coming. The white hats are coming.
It's all gonna be it's all gonna be
explained. But
for this point, we need you to go
do nothing. When anybody is telling you to
go do nothing, that's a problem. Absolutely. I
have
I have, you know, we we've we took
a look at this stuff over the last
years, and we we we understand that there's,
there's intelligence agencies that at work here. There's
a lot going on.
Man, you don't need to put on our
tinfoil hats and speculate about Q when you've
got the army psy ops
running commercials
talking about,
you know,
that we're we're here everywhere. You know, we
we see, you know, we see what you
do. We're we're we're there in the shadows
and and,
ghosts in the machine and all of this
stuff. Like,
this the psyops are
are commercials now. And at the end of
them, to to escape from mere generalizations,
they put their web address at the end.
Yeah. You know what I mean? It wasn't
meant to be any sort of of secret.
So so I think everybody needs to have
their head on straight and to be
very
suspicious about
about being told that, you know, about hearing
these plans
that line up perfectly with what you would
want because it's very rare that we get
what we would want. The idea that that
the administration is gonna double cross Israel at
the sounds like a fantasy. Right?
I mean, it sounds sounds amazing, but the
problem is it's it's almost like that's what
you wanna hear. They're telling you what you
wanna hear, and it's disarming in that regard,
especially if the instructions are just wait here
and do nothing. We'll tell you when when
you when you guys all get activated, and
then we'll need you to help fight, you
know, fight the good fight. But, until that
time, you know, sit still and be quiet,
man. I get very suspicious when I hear
things like that. Obviously. Right? You should. I
mean, I I don't think anybody with the
best intentions
of actual change are gonna tell you to
just hope that they end up doing the
right like, what if they fail? Shouldn't you
at least be back up just in case?
You know, it's like it's just a crazy
idea to think we should do nothing, but
I'm I'm glad you point that out because
disarm disarming
is a great way to think about that.
It really truly is. Like, because you are
as always, like with COVID nineteen,
the mo the the the obvious point for
me was that the per the group,
constitutionalists,
militia, you know, right leaning were the biggest
problem for what the people they knew would
push back, and they got pacified because Trump
was in that position. That's what I believe.
And I think the same thing is happening
right now. And so they're I mean, you're
they're rolling out not just like
it looks like a win and there's a
secret behind it, which is also happening, but
they're rolling out the thing. Speaking at World
Economic Forum, here's an mRNA shot, artificial intelligence
infrastructure. And still, people are like, no. No.
No. Here's why. And so I clearly, we
have a reason to be on guard. And
so please do not trust the plan. Question
everything. Right? And this is why this is
why I think it's such an important point
that that
whether it's, you know, object objective nonpartisan media,
that's what it's all really about. And we
all have our opinions and different leanings or
different people we wanna support. But of all
people in this field, what you do is
I I I love talking with you because
I always feel like we're, you know, it's
it's we're willing to question everything and challenge
ideas, and I'm really, really excited to to
point out in case you guys didn't already
know, as I already mentioned a second ago,
is that he took over activist post and
natural blaze, and he's also part of the
Independent Media Alliance. And we just have a
lot of, you know, positive momentum, I argue,
in this field despite as crazy as it
gets. You know? So would you touch on
that for me and what's going on around
that and and what your plans are? It's
time to see that. Yeah. Oh, there we
go. And we got Corbett's, head He's the
lead story right now.
In the summer of twenty twenty four, I
was approached by the previous owners of Activist
Post,
and they said that they had been they've
been doing this for fifteen years. They were
ready to do something else. I've been reading
Activist Post for at least the last ten
years. Mhmm. Enthusiastic supporter of it. They're they
republish,
articles from journalists around the world. And they
approached me about they said, you know, we
wanna we wanna make sure it goes to
the right,
you know, the right person, the right ownership.
It matters to them as it should, and
I was flattered. You know? I at first,
I said no, and then I thought about
it, and I said, well, yeah. You know,
I said this I kinda have to do
this. When the universe, you know, when the
universe put something like this right in front
of you, you you your job is to
is to act upon it. Yeah. And so
we worked on we we figured it out,
and and I said, yes. You know what?
I'll do it. Let's let's make it happen.
I re we rebuilt the site and launched
it on January 1.
And,
yeah, activist, but I bought it in an
all Bitcoin transaction with those guys and we,
and Natural Blaze as well. And the point
is that,
you know, with what I've been doing, I've
been writing books, I've been doing podcasts, and
and this seemed like
a fantastic
evolution
of of my work to for, you know,
when you write a book, it's like takes
you two years and sometimes by the time
it comes out, some of the components of
it are, you know, it's it's not breaking
news anymore. Podcasts, it's much better. It's much,
you know, you're I'm able to to reach
people twice a week with macro aggressions and
union of the unwanted and things like that.
But the news, the daily news, the the
the news that never ends, you know, it's
always kind of going. Boy, this is a
real opportunity for for us in the alternative
media, the actual alternative media, you know, the
independent media
to to you know, for me to curate
the content in a way that I think
is
ideologically aligned with my beliefs, which are anti
war first and foremost. I'm anti empire. I
wrote a book with Jeff Berwick called The
Controlled Demolition of the American Empire. So we
have,
you know, just taking that sort of mindset
and in moving it forward in in the
alternative media space, and I hope that people
will consider bookmarking it. We when I rebuilt
the site, the intention was, you know, it
had been an it been in existence for
years. They described it as heavy,
and that's not great for mobile. So I
want I said, well, when we do this,
we we've gotta make a brand new site.
It's gotta be very secure, and it's gotta
fly on mobile, man. It's gotta be good.
But we didn't wanna do an app. I
didn't wanna centralize control into the hands of
an app store,
in, you know, Apple or Google. And so
if you want it on your phone, just
pull it up, like, in a browser and
bookmark it and do it that way or
on your on your tablet or or PC.
I hope that people will consider adding that
to their media diet. You know, I'm not
saying get rid of what you're currently going
to. Just add this in addition to it.
And and then when when you and Derek
and Whitney reached out this summer, it was
it this had just happened in in in
that video that you sent over, the fifteen
minute video kind of talking about this. Whitney
made a comment in there. You know, be
nice to have a a a central place
of for articles sort of like zero hedge.
And I was like, oh, like, I can't
really talk about it too much, but then
I got you on the phone and I
was like, hey. This is what I'm doing.
Just so you know, I've got the centralized
place for all these articles. And so if
you're if, you know, obviously, the the Independent
Media Alliance is going to have a a
big role there. We're still working out. We're
still building out parts of the site. It's
gonna have its own page down at the
bottom of the homepage. There's a there's a
spot that says Independent Media Alliance and then
says coming soon. We're gonna we're gonna connect
that. But
I've been pulling articles,
podcasts, and and everything I could get from
from that group for the for the month
or so that I've been in charge of
Activist Post.
And, it's it's a fantastic place to catch
everybody
all in one spot. You know? So so
you can get articles from off Guardian and
unlimited hangout and put your, you know, put
your, Last American Vagabond up as podcast. You
just saw Corbitt's up there,
as the lead story right now.
And, and it's just it's a real treat.
You know? It I'm honored. I take the
job seriously. I'll make some mistakes along the
way. No no doubt about that. I think
it's it's bound to happen, but my intentions
are good.
I want people to understand that these
stories are are important. They're worth talking about.
You're not gonna hear them on your nightly
news. That news is compromised. You're gonna have
to be responsible for finding your own source
of good information. And if activist post is
in your rotation,
you're gonna get news
that makes you feel like you're like you're
living
in the future. Like, you have information that
nobody's gonna be talking about for months, if
not years Right. Until it's safe. And so
I think that with my audience,
it's the Venn diagram overlaps pretty considerably
between the the topics I talk about in
in the in on macro aggressions or or
right in the books. I mean, it's so
ideologically aligned with what Activist Post is doing
right now. So I think that it's it's
gonna be a great source for people to,
to check out. And and and, eventually,
later this year, we're going to do Activist
Plus, which will be a premium component to
that. There are some, let's be honest, there
are some topics
that it's tough to have conversations about in
the general public because of these massive censorship.
So some of that will have to go
behind a paywall, and that will be brought
you know, we'll do that towards the tail
end of 2025. I wanna make sure that
we get the the the free component of
activist post dialed in and working and, people
are aware of that first, make sure we
do that right and before we start to
expand.
Outstanding, man. I'm excited for that. And I
do I love the idea of the, you
know, kind of centralized
location for different independent media, you know, and,
like, just being able to jump in there.
And so, you know, saves time at the
end of the day. I get a tag
with it too. I put a tag on
there, so it'll be,
the if if it's, you know, it's say
it's Kit Knightley, Off Guardian,
Independent Media Alliance. Right? So so you everyone's
got their own if if you're part of
that group, you'll get tagged as being part
of that group. And so for people that
are interested in finding that they can just
pull up that tag and just, boom, it'll
just drop down everything. Outstanding. Yeah. And and
but and as for for those that know,
we we've start the as you mentioned, the
Independent Media Alliance. Here's one of the recent
ones I just pulled up just to grab
real quick. Trump administration twenty twenty four, IMA
discusses cabinet picks, policy proposals. And we've talked
about a lot, digital IDs, and so on.
And I think what's the it's it's the
the idea behind it is the same kind
of thing, you know, is that we recognize
there's a lot of early alarming shifts happening
right now and a lot of I mean,
this really kind of spearheaded
it started mostly because of the whole black
pill, like, right before the selection process, we
saw this building problem, You know? And we
reached out to people that we thought were
objective. And, you know, I mean, it wasn't
it's all plenty of people in this conversation
have partisan discussions and point but in my
opinion, it's still I still call it nonpartisan
because it's like we did today. We're all
willing to challenge these things and look at
it from an objective perspective.
And and I think that's a breath of
fresh air for people, and I really do
think it's having an impact. And so, we're
also gonna be having the I think another
the Odyssey's building, something for this to be
going on. I think that's supposed to come
out this month. It's it's,
hopefully gonna be happening soon. I'm I'm really
excited for that. But I'd like to find
a way to intertwine all this. You know
what I mean? Like, with activist post and
everything that you're doing as well. Because I
really do think this is making a difference
in this conversation. And Yeah. Despite despite all
the aggressive pushback, which I think only showed
us we were over the target, I've I've
seen nothing but just overwhelming support for what
this is. And my my philosophy has been
whether it's books or or podcast or or
activist post as well. I reserve the right
to change my mind about things if I'm
presented with better
new information,
and and I have to have be flexible
enough about that. And like you and I
are having the conversation, we're willing to look
in unusual spots for okay. Are we being
are we walking into a trap here? Am
I do I have a blind spot on
this? I'm that I think that keeps us
sharp
in in in paying attention to that. And
I don't wanna get so dogmatic that that
I'm unwilling to move off of a position
if my position was wrong. You know? I
need I need to have that flexibility for
credibility reasons just for
my own sanity. Like, oh, maybe I got
that part wrong. Okay. Well, I got it
wrong. I mean,
let me not get it wrong the next
time around. Right? So Yeah. So I think
that we're
we're approaching this from a a place of
humility. We don't know it all. We know
quite a bit. We've got a lot of
the information,
and and
I'm able to curate you know, if I
I might not have
the sort of knowledge about a a particular,
component,
but somebody else does. Let's find their work.
Let's make sure that we're showcasing that. And
part of what we did is I re
reconfigured the categories and, you know, it's economy
and empire
and health and tech and podcasts and solutions
and crypto. You know? So we wanted to
make sure that there's a little bit for
everybody there. So that especially the podcast too
because I know that people
don't always get their information the same way.
Some people like to read books. Some people
like to listen to books on on,
as an audiobook. So so why don't I
make sure that the
information is there in a variety of different
formats? That's why we added the podcast component
to it. And, again,
it's also
extremely important
since we're getting labeled as Blackpilled
that we offer solutions. And I think that
the solution side, you know,
is necessary here. And and for people that
are trying to figure out
what what okay. Great. I understand that we've
got big problems, and these are these are
real issues that we face. How do I
maneuver myself outside of it? You'll see some
articles there on homeschooling. You'll see some, you
know, there's a lot going on. So so
to complain without offering solutions, I don't think
does anybody any good. So we're gonna make
sure that we
we really, take care of,
making sure that if people come to activist
post, then they they'll they'll say, oh, you
know what?
This is a great I get educated on
all this stuff, and then there's a way
for me to then do something about it.
Outstanding. I mean, I'm really excited for this,
and I I you know, as I said
a second ago, I mean, I as much
as it's getting
more intense, I guess, I genuinely think that
we're seeing a really positive change. And, you
know, the whole darker for the dawn analogy
is accurate for a reason. You know? And
I think that every time we start to
see positive change, people become aware. We've seen
different points of it in the past. The
the the the dial has turned up. Right?
When when we're more uncomfortable, we're more willing
to look for support from the power structure.
Right? We want them to take care of
problems,
you know, by and large, it's like a
populist. And so I think that's where we
are right now. And I'm actually very positive.
I feel very positive about where it's going
with the genuine independent media and the people
that are attuned to that. So I I
think as long as we're willing to stand
back and, like you're saying, just ask the
question. Is it possible that we're being fed
an a a false picture of what the
majority is or what the real the real
picture is? And I think more people than
ever are at least willing to ask that
question today. After Feel positive. After going through
the COVID years
and the Biden years, I think a lot
of people have reevaluated their relationship that they
have with their media. Yeah. That they've gone,
okay. I I used to just come home
and turn on the TV and get my
news and whatever. But now these people are
lying to me. I still want news. I
wanna know what's going on. I don't need
you to tell me how to feel about
this necessarily. I just can you give me
the news? And I think there's a huge
opportunity for us out there to to find
these people that are I would consider them
to be media free agents. Right? That they're
looking for
information somewhere, and they maybe don't know where
to go. So I put this to the
to the readers, the current readers of Activist
Post. You play a role in this.
I need your help. I need you if
you if there's an article that you found
that you like, I need you to share
it with the people that you think might
be interested in it because we're obviously not
gonna get any love from the algorithms. They
hate they hate what we're doing. But there's
a lot of people out there that are
kind of drifting, and they want to know
what's happening. They just don't know exactly where
to go. And in the old days, you
know, it might have been a video might
have been suggested or something might have you
know, you would you would have been in
that flow of the algorithm and and people
would find out about you. That was cut
off a long time ago.
It really hampered activist post back in 2016.
They were part of that, you know, that
200 the disinformation
200 list that would along with WikiLeaks and
Zero Hedge and Free Thought Project and a
bunch of others. And that crippled the advertising
component of it too. So they'll they'll try
to
undercut you financially if they can. Well, obviously,
we've seen it with tech censorship. They've been
doing that. But but
as long as we are,
able to
take this information and share it with people
that are close to us, that's how we
that's how we spread this information. That's how
we win. That's how we how Activist Post
continues to stay relevant and grow into the
future. So so for those of you out
there that like what you see there, then,
please take the additional step of sharing it
with people that you think might be,
of, like minds.
Yeah. And I think that's what you know,
winning is such an abstract thing in in
what we do. I I did a show
a while back about, like, redefining what we
think winning means in this field, you know,
because it's very hard to see a a
real long term, you know, but I that's
what I think it comes down to. You
reach one new person today. If you reach
one new person to open their mind to
a broader objective perspective, then you won. You
know? And I think that's what what you
just laid out there. So I'm really feeling
really positive about that. You know? I I
really did enjoy our conversation today, man. And
I think that it's it's one of the
things I love about what I seem to
have a converse the way our conversations go
every time, but people that have these kind
of conversations is not just giving different thoughts,
but sort of, like, coming to a new,
you know, thought together with our different opinions.
And so really appreciate that today, man. And,
anything else you wanna leave on the way
out? Upcoming events or, new books or anything
coming out? Well, yeah. But in in two
weeks, I'll be in Acapulco, Mexico for Anarcapulco,
the largest anarchist conference in the world. I'll
be the MC again this year. It's, fantastic.
It's the best week of the year. You'll
leave feeling,
inspired. Well, maybe a little sad because you're
like, oh god. I gotta go back to
the real world. But you will find that
there's a lot of very smart people out
there that aren't trying to fix the system.
They recognize the system is broken. They're building
outside of the system. They're doing things differently
with parallel structures, and it's very inspiring. It's
international
in scope.
It's, every day is a different topic. So
if you're able to get to Acapulco, I
realize not everybody can. If you can't, you
can live stream it. You can you you'll
be blown away. Last year, I I got
the opportunity to, virtually interview David Ike
to open the event. He was, not able
to fly there, but we had him on
the big screen behind me, and I was
able to interview him, take questions from the
audience. That's happening again. We've got,
Gareth Ike coming down in in real life.
He'll be there. We've got the VIP dinner
for him. It's it's just, you know, there's
crypto going on. There's health and wellness components
to it, sovereign skills. If you're somebody that,
you know, wants to get residency in another
country or get a different passport, that's going
on. And then there's these outstanding workshops that
happen,
as well in addition to kids camp. I'll
be, speaking at one of the days with
the kids camp of about publishing and and
all that. We've got Jay Noon down there.
He'll be teaching kids how to weld.
Last year, Missouri was teaching kids how to
weld. I was like, how old are these
kids? He's like, I don't know. Like, 11
or 12? Like, they're great. They love it.
So there's a lot going on. You'll find
a bunch of homeschoolers,
unschoolers down there. It's a very subversive group.
I'll tell you. And I say that with
with the as much due respect as possible.
It's a great it's a great place. If
you're interested, go to anarcopoolco.com.
And if you find something you like, the
discount code is macro. That'll get you there.
I hope to see everybody there. And then
at nights, we all wind up at Max
Egan's bar, you know.
Right. For live music, everyone's playing. It brings
their ins they bring their instruments down there.
There's live music. You can have some beers.
It's a smoke a joint out on the
balcony. It's great, man. Outstanding, man. Well, I
hope everybody joins. And, again, man, really enjoyed
our conversation, and I look forward to talking
with you again.
And as always, everybody out there, question everything.
Come to your own conclusions.
Stay vigilant.
As the world watches and listens in horror,
the peaceful pro democracy demonstration in China comes
to a violent and bloody end. Mister Gorbachev,
tear down this
wall.
Wolves hiding
nearby,
whispering
do or die
around
me.
You
say your
last
good night.
There is another very important phase of warfare.
It has as its target,
not the body,
but the mind of the enemy.
The target of psychological
warfare
is against the enemy's mind.
It is words and ideas. Ammunition
used
by
a
firewall.
Its mission is to influence the thoughts of
the enemy soldier. And at the same time,
is expected and encouraged to study foreign languages
and the social sciences such as history,
economics, and sociology. Diverting literature. He must have
a broad and sympathetic understanding
of all phases of human experience.
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in at my skin.
The walls
of night close in.
But the use of this force as an
integral part of combat
has now taken on new form.
These are the sci war soldiers.