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Welcome back to another panel with the Independent

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Media Alliance. Today joining is myself, Kit, Steve,

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Hvoor, Derek, and Catherine to discuss Trump policy

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in general. But there's a lot to get

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into around this topic, obviously. I think everybody

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out there has their own

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particular part of any upcoming administration in their

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direction in their policy that interest you more.

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So today, we're gonna go through starting with

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some of the discussion of some some of

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the policy or rather, excuse me, some of

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the administration picks and some of the directions

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they might be taking and then kinda just

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have a general conversation about how we see

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the Trump administration, the policies being proposed, how

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we see that going in our our predictions

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and our thoughts on where it might be

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going. I think an important point to make

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right out of the gate is to recognize

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that these are all floated right now. They

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are proposed policies. Some of which we can

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relate to some precedent from Trump's previous administration,

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things that we know they're more likely to

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put forward. But by and large, this is

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gonna be a hypothetical conversation about what is

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likely to happen. And once we get to

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a point in which we're actually seeing things

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happen, we'll be able to compare that to

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what we're discussing today. So welcome everybody today.

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I believe I was wrong last time. I

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believe this is the 4th panel for the

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IMA so far. Lots more to come in

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general. So I'd say we start off today

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with a

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I'll why don't we just throw it to

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Kit to start since this was your proposed,

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panel today? And we can just start off

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with really just start wherever you'd like, but

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I thought it'd be a good place to

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start will be around some of the policy

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picks that you stand out to you on,

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at really whatever direction you think is most

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important as you see it going forward.

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I I can jump in if you'd like

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if you wanna. Go ahead.

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a a useful discussion would be about

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because as you said, policy is still just

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hypothetical at this point. Mhmm.

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the kind of presidency it's going to be.

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I mean, for me, what I would expect

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would be a policy and a presidency which

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is about

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regaining credibility

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in in quotes.

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I think the the meta narrative of the

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world at the moment is an establishment trying

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to regain credibility. And I think in the

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specific instance, Trump needs to regain

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some of his anti establishment credibility.

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6 months to a year of 2025,

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you'll see Trump do stuff that you probably

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wouldn't have done the last time. A few,

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like, easy wins thrown out, like,

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for a partner, for example, that would be

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something he could do. I think that would

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if that happened. I think, I think he'll

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the free reign to at least talk about

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stuff he's going to do.

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I think they've actually played it very cleverly

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distancing himself from RFK post election, basically 2

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which they immediately

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counteract and say, no. We're not.

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to be confirmed by the senate and everything.

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Trump did dump all his anti establishment stuff

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basically immediately last time, and I think

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this time he worked. I think that's what's

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the most interesting thing to talk about, how

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he would, like, play up to anti establishment

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stuff this time in order to regain some

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bona fide ideas.

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little bit of some audio carryover. If you

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guys could help me this time, I'm hearing

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a little bit of feedback. We tried to

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address it in the beginning, but just, try

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muting your microphones as we're as other people

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are talking. That'll probably help in general. But

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general that I think that,

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clear my opinion of the kind of my

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pessimistic view of government in general. I would

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see this through a lens of how we

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can how they can play the population more

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so, whichever partisans I were talking about. However

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would seem that there is an interest in

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trying to really play out the idea of

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challenging the system, which I think personally, going

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to the picks, is very hard to make

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that argument with some of the, I mean,

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straight out of the, you know, deep state

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swamp, Zionist, technocrat choices that we're seeing picked

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just for just for cabinet positions so far,

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or rather tapped whether they actually become that

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position or not, I think is interesting. But

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a a it depends on how you see

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it playing out with what their objective might

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be. So why don't anybody else jump in

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just kinda starting points, policy picks, or rather

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administrative picks? Yeah. We were we were just

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saying, Ryan, on AM wake up, like, an

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hour and a half ago to you know,

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from day 1, it's been pretty obvious that

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the prerequisite

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was Israel first

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and then loyalty to Donald Trump,

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as a a either a co first or

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a close second.

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you know, the bait and switch with a

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number of these different appointees

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who say nice things

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on camera or say things that, you know,

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people with a couple of brain cells left

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to rub together would be like, oh, yeah.

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interview after interview where they're pledging their undying

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loyalty

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to the Zionist entity

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where you've got Pam Biondi

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talking about, you know,

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rounding up and deporting,

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antisemites

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where you've got

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just example after example of massive government overreach

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and complete trampling

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of every existing right that we have remaining.

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who, ought know better, who have previously pointed

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out the similar flaws, and a lot of

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the same people and certainly the same type

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of person,

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are cheerleading

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you know, it makes the liberals cry or

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the different factions, I think, that are gonna

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be strong in this second administration.

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Israel, of course, the Times of Israel itself

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saying who are the Jews in Trump's inner

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circle and how will they affect his second

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term. And then, of course, I think the

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defense military industrial complex is gonna have a

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presence, pharma, you know, Mehmet Oz, and others.

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or or or big tech. I think that's

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the key. And I had chat yesterday with

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Pat Wood, Patrick Wood of Technocracy, and he's

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now he's gonna give a presentation this weekend,

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he said, but he's talking about techno

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populism.

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cutting edge of all of this. And, again,

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the definition of techno populism says it's either

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in favor of technocracy or a populism concerning

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certain technology, usually information technology or any populist

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conversed using digital

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media. It can be employed by single politicians

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and, it says neighboring terms used are technocratic

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populism, technological populism, and cyber populism.

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the Trump administration with Elon Musk, where they've

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with technocracy, and that just seems to be,

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quick if I could. I'm I'm gonna have

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to jump off in a few minutes, but

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basically to pick off pick up there on

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the techno populism angle, I think that is,

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really important. And,

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besides maybe some potentials like Kit was talking

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about for Trump to, you know, do some

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anti establishment things to try to get his

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street cred bet back. I think we can

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already clearly see what Steve was talking about.

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associated with Israel, who have, you know, outright

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supported Israel and Zionism.

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limits on arms deals to Israel. He's already

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saying, you know, as soon as he gets

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into office, they're going to start limiting free

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speech on campuses to go after anti Semitic

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propaganda. So I think we're gonna see the

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increase in that. And in terms of the

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technocracy aspect, Jim O'Neil, who is appointed or

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at least, you know, nominated to HHS deputy

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secretary who would serve under RFK if they're

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he is a former CEO of Peter Thiel's,

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the Thiel Foundation. So, I mean, that to

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me is everybody here and hopefully in the

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audience is aware of Peter Thiel and understands

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the importance of that.

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I'm also working on another investigation for TLAB

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right now,

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looking deeper into Elon Musk and specifically his

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role. You know, why he's so,

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so much embracing Donald Trump. And I think

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there's some really clear obvious examples.

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That would be for 1, he stands to

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benefit immensely financially from,

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all the different military industrial complex

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contracts that his companies have.

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And, I'm specifically looking at his star shield

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program, which started to be report on late

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in 2023, and it has, you know, bits

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of information have been dripping out this year.

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it's a $1,800,000,000

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classified contract,

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and, more and more details are pointing to

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that the contract's probably with the National Reconnaissance

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Office, which handles all the satellites and the

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surveillance around the planet.

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program,

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Musk, especially now with Trump in office, it

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can expect to get more financial business, but

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also to help the military industrial complex, the

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US military, the US intelligence apparatus

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to have the ability in their own words

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to see anyone anywhere on the planet

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to a degree that they've never had before.

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head of the NRO,

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in a recent discussion about this said there

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will be nowhere for anybody to hide. You

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know, of course, they're saying this is just

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for bad guys, for terrorists,

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but I think that's another aspect of,

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creating this technocrat dream of being able to

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monitor everything on the planet,

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in order to allocate resources. Of course, you

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know, terrorism, touch bad guys, all that sort

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of stuff.

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That to me is is another big picture

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that a lot of the Trump supporters aren't

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seeing. And I'll just throw this one in

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real briefly since I can't be on too

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long today. But Trump also just this week

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announced Chad

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who's a, currently a sheriff in Florida. He's

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supposed to head the DEA.

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Just one interesting connection here that our fellow

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IMA member Whitney Webb has written about in

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her book.

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The sheriff,

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Chad Kronister, his wife is Nikki,

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what is the name? DeBartolo DeBartolo and,

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her father,

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Edward DeBartolo senior. He was,

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known for his mafia connections going back to

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Ohio where he was in business with Les

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Wexner, who, of course, was one of the

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financers behind,

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Jeffrey Epstein. And Les Wexner was part of

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the mega group, which is, of course, goes

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back to Israel and and Assad connections there.

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So the sheriff, head of

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Florida,

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who's being appointed at the head of DEA,

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his,

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his wife and her family have connections to

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the mafia, and his her brother actually used

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to own the San Francisco 40 niners, and

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he was fined, like, $1,000,000

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and, you know, given a felony conviction for

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some shady business deals he did. Trump actually

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pardoned him during his first term. So, again,

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you can see that sort of coming full

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circle. Trump Trump pardons a friend, and then

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that friend's

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brother-in-law is appointed to, b d d h,

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head of the DEA. So, I mean, I

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think we're seeing a lot of just swampy

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different connections going on that hopefully more and

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more people will be paying attention to.

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Yeah. I definitely agree. I I think that

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it's obvious that this is going

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away from what was generally promised.

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And I think that's what I'm so interested

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by to see the reactions before we even

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get into policy of the people that are

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being tapped. They're so transparently

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I mean, outside of the kind of, like,

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you narrative of the insiders to fight from

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the inside, which there's some level of logic

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too, but it just does seem to be

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pretty outstandingly,

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you know, a deviation.

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So anybody have have any opening thoughts about

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policy or picks so far before we kinda

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just jump into the actual different policy categories?

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So I have been watching the battle over

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the secretary of treasury.

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One of the biggest issues faced by the

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US government right now is

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how they're going to modify

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the global dollar system. So

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you see an effort all around the world.

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The the the dollar was weaponized with sanctions

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starting in 2014,

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and that

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process is really,

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you know, killing the goose that laid the

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golden egg because more and more people are

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now trying to move away from the dollar.

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And the question is, how are you gonna

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track them back into the dollar or force

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them back into the dollar?

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And if you don't, how are you gonna

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reengineer the military

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and cost of capital,

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economics, including,

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you know,

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sitting down much harder on the domestic populations

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within the g seven?

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So there's fundamental economics in the system that

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are changing,

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and you have to evolve with it or

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or find a way to significantly defend the

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system.

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And so you see as Trump is deciding

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these different financial and

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sort of the financial side of his picks,

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you're seeing the debate of what you do

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and how you do it. And there was

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a a real tense,

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debate over whether Scott Pissano was gonna be

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chosen

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of treasury, who finally was, versus Howard Lutnick.

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So Howard Lutnick was the cochair of the

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transition team,

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and he is the head of Cantor Fitzgerald,

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which is one of the largest primary dealers.

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So

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if you look at all of the funny

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business at the federal government from the bailouts

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to 21 trillion missing

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to FASB 56,

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Howard Lutnick is one of the key people

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moving the money out of American Retirement Funds

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and into the treasury, and then it disappears

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out the back door. So you're basically

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you know, this guy is the guy who's

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had an unbelievably

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successful career and become a billionaire

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financing

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one of the greatest

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bank robberies in the history of the world.

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Okay?

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Which is why it's so interesting when they

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talk about reengineering government and the Doge initiative.

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They don't talk about, well, let's look at,

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you know, keeping secret books. Let's look at

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getting the government back into legal compliance with

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the financial management laws. Let's look at where

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the $21,000,000,000,000

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went. Let's look at where the $23,000,000,000,000

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on the ballot. They're not talking about any

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of that.

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And in fact, Ledkin in his speech and

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different interviews,

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at Bitcoin 2024

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and different interviews

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was very,

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how can I describe it, was very encouraging

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of privatizing the land and minerals at the

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federal government? He he basically said we don't

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need to worry about $36,000,000,000,000

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of debt because we have $500,000,000,000,000

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of land and minerals that can be

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monetized.

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So, you know, sort of the plunder team

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versus,

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if you look at the best record, he's

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much more of an equity investor than equity

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builder.

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And if you listen to his recent statements,

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he talks about how the US

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is attracting capital from all around the world,

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which right now is true.

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So, it was really in the financial world,

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it was really sort of the plunder and

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private equity guys versus the the equity investors.

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And the equity investors won, even though you

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would think the Senate was not sort of

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a Trump

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pick. Lekin has been a very close and

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loyal guy.

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And I continue to believe that the Republican

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establishment

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really,

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really supported Trump. You know, they've decided he's

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the guy who can get the control grid

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for them, whereas,

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you know, Biden and Harris were not people

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who could get the control grid done.

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And, you know, if if anything, the signals,

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the the sort of mainstream Republican establishment raising

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their fist and saying no to what what

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Nick and the plunder team, which I think

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is very interesting.

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We do have we do have the point

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of, commerce secretary overlap. And so why don't

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we start with the conversation of finances in

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general since you you start there in general,

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Catherine, talk about Donald Trump's movements around the

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dollar. Because I do find this to be,

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again, the general point of, like, very contradictory

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to any of the floated directions.

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Trump recently said this, on the 30th. The

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idea that BRICS countries are trying to move

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away from the dollar while we stand by

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and watch is over. We require a commitment

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from these countries that they will never neither

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create a new BRICS currency nor back any

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other currency to replace the mighty US dollar,

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or they will face 100%

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tariffs and should expect to say goodbye to

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selling into the wonderful US economy. They can

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go find another sucker. There is no chance

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that the bricks will replace the US dollar

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international trade and any and any country that

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tries should wave goodbye to America. I've got

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plenty of thoughts. Who wants to start on

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that?

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I would just say that I think that

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this,

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you know, for 1,

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Catherine mentioned about a lot of good things

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there with Howard Lutnick. And, Ryan, you and

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I were there at the Bitcoin conference in

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Nashville watching Howard Lutnick, give his big speech.

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And for those who also don't know, Howard

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Lutnick was also one of the next door

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neighbors of Jeffrey Epstein and former Hillary Clinton

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donors. There's a lot of weird things about

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him. He also coincidentally

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did not show up for work on 911,

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and,

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the Twin Towers collapsed with his building, his

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company inside of it. Yeah. That's the article

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I wrote there about the co opting of

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Bitcoin, which I know was covered on the

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previous panel.

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But I think as far as the BRICS

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things go, my main thought in that is

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specifically that

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I think this is gonna play up, and,

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I know some folks here have done work

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on this. Gonna play up this angle of

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the BRICS versus the US hegemony, you know,

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the

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multipolar order versus the old world order

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and, and just dynamics around that. So whether

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that means people who because a lot of

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people are starting to look at Russia and

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China as the the opposition to the NATO

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world order,

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And, this is gonna kinda play into the

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storyline that maybe Trump is taking that back

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and he's, you know, taking a stand against

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whatever the bricks are up to. Personally, my

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view is that neither of them are for

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liberty and are gonna be good for people

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in the long term, and that's just another

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false binary that people are falling into, which

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is I know a big part of what

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we've been trying to push back against here.

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So, yeah, I I I don't have any

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specific thoughts beyond that that I just think

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that this this discussion and Trump's comments against

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the BRICS are just gonna play further into

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that binary.

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Well, what it what it does is it

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sets up

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the imminent,

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you know, immediate

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co accelerated collapse of the dollar, especially if

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he plans on

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implementing tariffs

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on top

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of the income tax.

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Yeah. It that's a

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recipe for absolute

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disaster

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with an immediate solution being, well, here's a

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series of tokens

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that we're we're going to go ahead and

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move our financial system onto.

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And we have our strategic Bitcoin reserve

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that we've paid down x percentage of the

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debt or have

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deals with,

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you know, debtor nations.

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And Catherine can probably speak better to to

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how that's,

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you know,

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an absolute

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strangulation

542
00:19:36,654 --> 00:19:37,394
of both

543
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,500
what's already garbage fiat currency,

544
00:19:40,879 --> 00:19:43,940
but, you know, the international dollar along with

545
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:47,460
the ease of implementation,

546
00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:51,119
of what's ultimately going to be on the

547
00:19:51,119 --> 00:19:52,899
back end, a a CBDC.

548
00:19:55,414 --> 00:19:57,815
So here's here's the challenge if you're running

549
00:19:57,815 --> 00:19:59,835
the dollar system, and that is

550
00:20:00,215 --> 00:20:03,255
the Bretton Woods system was we pay and

551
00:20:03,255 --> 00:20:06,375
fund the global military protection of the sea

552
00:20:06,375 --> 00:20:07,914
lanes and the satellite lanes,

553
00:20:08,419 --> 00:20:10,339
and we allow everybody to play on an

554
00:20:10,339 --> 00:20:12,179
open platform. And you can sell under the

555
00:20:12,179 --> 00:20:13,940
US market, which at the time was the

556
00:20:13,940 --> 00:20:16,980
largest consumer market. Now it's it's the EU

557
00:20:16,980 --> 00:20:18,200
was larger. But

558
00:20:18,740 --> 00:20:21,299
but so we fund all the expenses of

559
00:20:21,299 --> 00:20:23,605
running that open platform, and you get to

560
00:20:23,605 --> 00:20:25,204
play on it as long as you use

561
00:20:25,204 --> 00:20:25,865
the dollar.

562
00:20:26,325 --> 00:20:27,065
And so

563
00:20:27,365 --> 00:20:29,444
you got a tithe from the dollar, and

564
00:20:29,444 --> 00:20:31,065
that tithe helped pay for

565
00:20:31,365 --> 00:20:33,384
all the expenses of running the platform.

566
00:20:33,765 --> 00:20:35,845
You still got the expenses of running the

567
00:20:35,845 --> 00:20:36,345
platform,

568
00:20:37,019 --> 00:20:39,259
but the tie that is being eroded. So

569
00:20:39,259 --> 00:20:41,580
how do you evolve the model? And that's

570
00:20:41,580 --> 00:20:42,559
the big question.

571
00:20:43,099 --> 00:20:44,700
And do you have to shut down the

572
00:20:44,700 --> 00:20:45,200
platform?

573
00:20:45,740 --> 00:20:47,900
I agree totally with Derek. If you look

574
00:20:47,900 --> 00:20:50,539
at the latest pronouncements from the BRICS, both

575
00:20:50,539 --> 00:20:52,744
at the BRICS meeting, but then at the

576
00:20:52,744 --> 00:20:54,365
g twenty meeting in New Delhi,

577
00:20:54,744 --> 00:20:56,984
you know, they're fully on board for the

578
00:20:56,984 --> 00:20:57,484
global

579
00:20:58,345 --> 00:21:00,444
BIS digital ID, CBDC,

580
00:21:01,784 --> 00:21:02,284
biometrics

581
00:21:02,825 --> 00:21:03,325
control,

582
00:21:04,269 --> 00:21:06,670
you know, so it's it's almost 2 different

583
00:21:06,670 --> 00:21:07,170
flavors.

584
00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:09,390
I think they're arguing about who's gonna be

585
00:21:09,390 --> 00:21:11,490
the middle management for the control model.

586
00:21:12,029 --> 00:21:13,950
So so neither of those guys are a

587
00:21:13,950 --> 00:21:15,730
savior. But if you look at the fundamental

588
00:21:15,869 --> 00:21:18,524
economics of the dollar system, it's gotta be

589
00:21:18,524 --> 00:21:20,125
evolved in the question is how do you

590
00:21:20,125 --> 00:21:20,784
do that?

591
00:21:21,565 --> 00:21:23,724
Just to add on BRICS, I would my

592
00:21:23,724 --> 00:21:25,964
my feeling is that it's kind of weak

593
00:21:25,964 --> 00:21:27,404
sauce. A lot of what we hear about

594
00:21:27,404 --> 00:21:29,244
BRICS, I was listening to Lavrov this week,

595
00:21:29,244 --> 00:21:31,589
and he's like, yeah, the whole bricks payment

596
00:21:31,589 --> 00:21:33,529
system, it was Lula's idea

597
00:21:33,910 --> 00:21:35,509
in Brazil, like, a year or 2 ago,

598
00:21:35,509 --> 00:21:37,990
and you hear all this talk, but nothing

599
00:21:37,990 --> 00:21:40,150
is really coming of it. It's almost like

600
00:21:40,150 --> 00:21:42,809
bricks has been concocted as this punching bag

601
00:21:42,964 --> 00:21:43,785
for the western

602
00:21:44,404 --> 00:21:46,884
hegemonic model. Well, but he here is what's

603
00:21:46,884 --> 00:21:48,565
coming in. They are working on a payment

604
00:21:48,565 --> 00:21:50,724
system, but what's real, and it's been going

605
00:21:50,724 --> 00:21:53,065
on since the east Asian financial crisis,

606
00:21:53,684 --> 00:21:55,845
is they're trying to do as much trade

607
00:21:55,845 --> 00:21:58,345
as possible in their own currencies direct.

608
00:21:59,099 --> 00:22:01,660
And if you look at the efforts China

609
00:22:01,660 --> 00:22:04,700
has made to move currency hubs and trading

610
00:22:04,700 --> 00:22:06,160
platforms around the world

611
00:22:06,539 --> 00:22:08,000
and then to Moscow,

612
00:22:08,380 --> 00:22:10,140
the Moscow Central Bank put a,

613
00:22:10,619 --> 00:22:12,079
an office in Beijing,

614
00:22:12,515 --> 00:22:14,755
and they're using gold to make settlements. That's

615
00:22:14,755 --> 00:22:15,815
all very incremental,

616
00:22:16,595 --> 00:22:19,315
but very slowly and steadily, it's chipping away

617
00:22:19,315 --> 00:22:21,075
at the dollar reserve. You know, at both

618
00:22:21,075 --> 00:22:22,535
the trade market share

619
00:22:22,914 --> 00:22:24,995
and the reserve market share, that's real. There

620
00:22:24,995 --> 00:22:27,575
is a there is an erosion of the

621
00:22:28,430 --> 00:22:30,769
of the market share, and that erosion

622
00:22:31,549 --> 00:22:34,130
is gonna be accelerated because the sanction

623
00:22:34,990 --> 00:22:37,150
the way the sanctions have been used is

624
00:22:37,150 --> 00:22:40,190
very short term and shortsighted. The dollar is

625
00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:41,970
giving up a lot of market power,

626
00:22:43,355 --> 00:22:44,015
you know,

627
00:22:44,474 --> 00:22:46,174
by by scaring people.

628
00:22:46,555 --> 00:22:48,394
And I think one of the things that

629
00:22:48,394 --> 00:22:50,795
really scares them is not just what they've

630
00:22:50,795 --> 00:22:52,654
seen from the sanctions so far,

631
00:22:53,275 --> 00:22:55,195
but when you combine that with what they're

632
00:22:55,195 --> 00:22:57,775
seeing in Gaza and in Israel,

633
00:22:58,210 --> 00:23:00,130
I think that combination is very

634
00:23:00,850 --> 00:23:03,090
it it it makes a country and their

635
00:23:03,090 --> 00:23:04,230
financial officers

636
00:23:04,930 --> 00:23:06,450
take a deep breath and go to the

637
00:23:06,450 --> 00:23:09,809
long, slow, hard work of building alternatives, which

638
00:23:09,809 --> 00:23:10,710
takes decades.

639
00:23:11,090 --> 00:23:12,884
But they've they're working on it,

640
00:23:13,285 --> 00:23:14,265
And that's real.

641
00:23:14,644 --> 00:23:16,085
And just to add on both of your

642
00:23:16,085 --> 00:23:18,164
points of the dollar collapse, I really I'm

643
00:23:18,164 --> 00:23:20,644
a fan of Andy Schechtman's thesis of Miles

644
00:23:20,644 --> 00:23:22,724
Franklin where he says that it's almost like

645
00:23:22,724 --> 00:23:23,464
they're intentionally,

646
00:23:24,565 --> 00:23:26,345
accelerating this this collapse

647
00:23:26,644 --> 00:23:27,305
and pushing,

648
00:23:28,029 --> 00:23:28,930
bricks because,

649
00:23:29,630 --> 00:23:31,230
I mean, it's it's it's too too obvious.

650
00:23:31,230 --> 00:23:32,829
You know, you've had a Mackinder and that

651
00:23:32,829 --> 00:23:34,289
thesis for a century saying,

652
00:23:34,670 --> 00:23:35,490
don't drive,

653
00:23:36,029 --> 00:23:38,269
Eurasia together and everything that we're doing is

654
00:23:38,269 --> 00:23:38,769
precisely

655
00:23:39,390 --> 00:23:41,744
driving everyone. You can't be that stupid. And

656
00:23:41,744 --> 00:23:43,664
so I think that the point is to

657
00:23:43,664 --> 00:23:44,164
accelerate

658
00:23:44,705 --> 00:23:45,205
this

659
00:23:45,664 --> 00:23:46,325
to accelerate

660
00:23:46,785 --> 00:23:48,644
the transition to whatever

661
00:23:49,105 --> 00:23:51,984
Right. Right. But remember, the dollar system is

662
00:23:51,984 --> 00:23:53,125
still unbelievably

663
00:23:53,505 --> 00:23:54,805
dominant and strong.

664
00:23:55,809 --> 00:23:57,890
And and the assets that it controls are

665
00:23:57,890 --> 00:23:58,390
still

666
00:23:58,690 --> 00:24:00,690
right now, the United States is in a

667
00:24:00,690 --> 00:24:02,610
huge bubble with capital from all around the

668
00:24:02,610 --> 00:24:03,750
world coming in.

669
00:24:04,049 --> 00:24:06,850
And the US market Financial Times just published

670
00:24:06,850 --> 00:24:09,105
a big piece that's correct about how the

671
00:24:09,105 --> 00:24:10,944
worst bubble on the planet is the US

672
00:24:10,944 --> 00:24:12,244
equity markets because,

673
00:24:13,505 --> 00:24:15,424
both with respect to the dollar and the

674
00:24:15,424 --> 00:24:17,664
US equity market, there's no other game in

675
00:24:17,664 --> 00:24:18,884
town. And so,

676
00:24:19,505 --> 00:24:21,365
you know, it's what it's what the economists

677
00:24:21,420 --> 00:24:23,820
used to call dangerous and dominant. It's still

678
00:24:23,820 --> 00:24:26,000
very dominant and very, very rich.

679
00:24:27,180 --> 00:24:28,859
Well, so what's interesting to me is that

680
00:24:28,859 --> 00:24:31,340
it seems that we are generally arguing that

681
00:24:31,340 --> 00:24:33,340
no matter what people are thinking, that the

682
00:24:33,340 --> 00:24:35,045
direction seems to be this kind of controlled

683
00:24:35,045 --> 00:24:37,144
demolition for the next phase, the CBDC.

684
00:24:37,765 --> 00:24:39,605
What I find interesting is that, you know,

685
00:24:39,605 --> 00:24:41,204
from Trump's perspective and this is something I

686
00:24:41,204 --> 00:24:43,365
can't stop seeing across all these different actions,

687
00:24:43,365 --> 00:24:45,125
from the smallest part to the the largest

688
00:24:45,125 --> 00:24:47,460
dynamic that they're using the problems that we

689
00:24:47,460 --> 00:24:49,059
know are there that they've created to roll

690
00:24:49,059 --> 00:24:51,220
you into the next problem. And so trust

691
00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:52,820
coming at this from the brick side of

692
00:24:52,820 --> 00:24:54,500
it. Right? Like, you know, that we're gonna

693
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:55,779
go after that, which by the way, doesn't

694
00:24:55,859 --> 00:24:57,539
again, doesn't seem to jibe with what we're

695
00:24:57,539 --> 00:24:59,720
being told. Right? Yeah. This seems to be

696
00:25:00,224 --> 00:25:02,545
solidifying the control of this structure even going

697
00:25:02,545 --> 00:25:05,025
with bitcoin and using it against the way

698
00:25:05,025 --> 00:25:06,865
it's actually challenged the dollar it should be

699
00:25:06,865 --> 00:25:08,625
using it to bolster it. So the question

700
00:25:08,625 --> 00:25:10,065
is and this is so well played if

701
00:25:10,065 --> 00:25:11,585
you think about it. Rather, the point is

702
00:25:11,585 --> 00:25:13,140
that if he's going after it that way.

703
00:25:13,460 --> 00:25:15,460
And we're arguing, well, that's gonna actually accelerate

704
00:25:15,460 --> 00:25:16,740
the demise of the dollar and that's some

705
00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:18,420
of his insiders gonna go, yes. He's seen

706
00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:20,259
wink wink. That's the point. Trump Trump is

707
00:25:20,259 --> 00:25:21,700
for the chess move is to destroy the

708
00:25:21,700 --> 00:25:23,059
dollar for but that I don't think that's

709
00:25:23,059 --> 00:25:24,779
the case. I think he's genuinely a part

710
00:25:24,779 --> 00:25:26,414
of the establishment. So it's a point is

711
00:25:26,414 --> 00:25:28,095
that it's so interesting how you can walk

712
00:25:28,095 --> 00:25:29,615
that line and make it, you know, take

713
00:25:29,615 --> 00:25:31,695
these actions that are, I guess, in line

714
00:25:31,695 --> 00:25:33,455
with what he wants his base that thinks

715
00:25:33,455 --> 00:25:35,055
he's fighting as the outsider to think he

716
00:25:35,055 --> 00:25:37,134
would do, but in essentially in a direction

717
00:25:37,134 --> 00:25:38,819
that brings in the CBDC. So it's, like,

718
00:25:38,899 --> 00:25:40,259
how do you fight past that? It's a

719
00:25:40,259 --> 00:25:41,539
broad question that we don't have to answer.

720
00:25:41,539 --> 00:25:43,460
It's like it's just so interesting how they

721
00:25:43,460 --> 00:25:45,139
play it, but go ahead. So let let

722
00:25:45,139 --> 00:25:46,980
me ask you guys a question that I've

723
00:25:46,980 --> 00:25:48,359
been trying to figure out.

724
00:25:48,980 --> 00:25:52,339
So so we have Elon Musk. The Financial

725
00:25:52,339 --> 00:25:53,924
Times just wrote a great piece

726
00:25:54,404 --> 00:25:56,424
about the the fact that Tesla

727
00:25:57,045 --> 00:25:59,625
is the most subsidized electronic vehicle

728
00:26:00,244 --> 00:26:01,545
company in China.

729
00:26:01,924 --> 00:26:02,424
Okay?

730
00:26:02,884 --> 00:26:04,965
So this is a guy who's getting massive

731
00:26:04,965 --> 00:26:06,744
subsidy from the Chinese government.

732
00:26:07,799 --> 00:26:09,980
As was just pointed out, he's getting massive

733
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:12,440
contracts and subsidy from the US government. So

734
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:13,339
he's basically

735
00:26:14,599 --> 00:26:15,980
a government contractor.

736
00:26:16,759 --> 00:26:17,259
Right?

737
00:26:17,639 --> 00:26:20,359
Massive, massive subsidy. He's not this is not

738
00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:21,579
a private entrepreneurial

739
00:26:22,535 --> 00:26:23,035
effort.

740
00:26:23,815 --> 00:26:24,954
And and

741
00:26:25,494 --> 00:26:27,515
and he has a company,

742
00:26:28,694 --> 00:26:29,194
who

743
00:26:29,654 --> 00:26:32,775
is working on putting a mesh network or

744
00:26:32,775 --> 00:26:34,054
putting a network in the back of your

745
00:26:34,054 --> 00:26:35,994
head and hooking you up to his satellites,

746
00:26:36,519 --> 00:26:37,339
which is,

747
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,480
you know, clearly being billed as one of

748
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,400
the most powerful, if not the most powerful

749
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,039
surveillance tool in the world. So I can't

750
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,059
imagine anybody whose record

751
00:26:46,679 --> 00:26:48,884
is more deep state than that.

752
00:26:50,884 --> 00:26:52,805
And, you know, and imagine if if the

753
00:26:52,805 --> 00:26:55,125
CBDCs can get hooked up and the social

754
00:26:55,125 --> 00:26:56,724
credit system can get hooked up to the

755
00:26:56,724 --> 00:26:59,045
back of your brain and run through satellites

756
00:26:59,045 --> 00:27:01,285
that you can't shut off or protect yourself

757
00:27:01,285 --> 00:27:01,785
from.

758
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,000
So why am I constantly being told in

759
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:07,299
many, many circles

760
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,539
that I can't criticize

761
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,680
Elon Musk because he's one of us and

762
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:12,900
he's fighting for freedom?

763
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,180
How

764
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:15,859
how is this achieved?

765
00:27:17,384 --> 00:27:19,545
In a couple of different ways. 1, because

766
00:27:19,545 --> 00:27:21,005
we live in the most propagandized

767
00:27:21,305 --> 00:27:23,945
country on the face of God's green earth

768
00:27:23,945 --> 00:27:25,805
ever in the history of always.

769
00:27:27,225 --> 00:27:28,684
And number 2,

770
00:27:29,170 --> 00:27:31,750
because the most craven, opportunistic,

771
00:27:34,049 --> 00:27:35,029
well heeled

772
00:27:35,730 --> 00:27:36,630
thought leaders

773
00:27:37,410 --> 00:27:39,109
have been telling absolutely

774
00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:39,910
everyone

775
00:27:40,369 --> 00:27:41,670
for years now

776
00:27:42,125 --> 00:27:44,845
that Elon Musk is the smartest guy in

777
00:27:44,845 --> 00:27:46,545
every room that he walks in

778
00:27:46,845 --> 00:27:49,105
and flowers literally spring up

779
00:27:49,485 --> 00:27:51,904
from, you know, where he's trod.

780
00:27:52,924 --> 00:27:55,265
And people buy into that.

781
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,899
The if you can convince people

782
00:27:59,000 --> 00:27:59,899
for years

783
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,179
that everyone who talked about Harvey Weinstein

784
00:28:03,639 --> 00:28:06,839
was crazy or everyone who spoke up about

785
00:28:06,839 --> 00:28:07,339
Hollywood

786
00:28:07,904 --> 00:28:09,904
was crazy. They said Dave Chappelle was on

787
00:28:09,904 --> 00:28:12,225
crack and all that kind of stuff. If

788
00:28:12,225 --> 00:28:14,244
you can, you know, convince people

789
00:28:14,625 --> 00:28:15,025
that,

790
00:28:15,505 --> 00:28:16,484
it's okay

791
00:28:17,025 --> 00:28:19,445
to invade countries based on nothing,

792
00:28:19,825 --> 00:28:21,744
except for, hey. I kinda think we should

793
00:28:21,744 --> 00:28:24,759
invade this country, then you can definitely convince

794
00:28:24,759 --> 00:28:27,019
them that Elon Musk,

795
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:28,380
saved

796
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:29,580
free speech

797
00:28:30,279 --> 00:28:32,680
by not allowing any of you to see

798
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,779
who the people on XCOR

799
00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:37,100
are that actually own

800
00:28:38,144 --> 00:28:39,684
Elon Musk and the platform

801
00:28:40,065 --> 00:28:42,384
with with only disclosing a handful of the

802
00:28:42,384 --> 00:28:42,884
banks

803
00:28:43,184 --> 00:28:45,045
that he drew loans from

804
00:28:45,424 --> 00:28:47,045
in order to get that $44,000,000.

805
00:28:48,625 --> 00:28:50,884
So, I mean, we I've said this before,

806
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:52,859
but we I've never seen

807
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:54,380
the inversion

808
00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:55,980
of reality

809
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:59,500
on display the way that I have over

810
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,220
the last, I don't know, 18 months.

811
00:29:03,335 --> 00:29:05,174
I think some important points to to highlight

812
00:29:05,174 --> 00:29:06,775
are I one, I I don't think it's

813
00:29:06,775 --> 00:29:09,095
the majority, my personal opinion, that is falling

814
00:29:09,095 --> 00:29:10,134
for most of this. And I think that's

815
00:29:10,134 --> 00:29:11,575
part of why it's so aggressive, but it's

816
00:29:11,575 --> 00:29:13,575
definitely a large portion of the population. But

817
00:29:13,575 --> 00:29:14,934
I think it comes down to the savior

818
00:29:14,934 --> 00:29:16,910
complex. Right? There are people and I'm and

819
00:29:16,910 --> 00:29:19,170
I'm specifically talking about the p that smaller,

820
00:29:19,390 --> 00:29:22,029
let's just say, 49, 51, the 49% that's

821
00:29:22,029 --> 00:29:23,789
falling for it. I think it but I

822
00:29:23,789 --> 00:29:25,390
think it's that we have been so conditioned

823
00:29:25,390 --> 00:29:27,549
to need somebody in power to to slip

824
00:29:27,549 --> 00:29:29,014
in and save us from this. And so

825
00:29:29,014 --> 00:29:30,774
that's the obvious always been their point, but

826
00:29:30,774 --> 00:29:32,855
it's ramped up like crazy. Then I think

827
00:29:32,855 --> 00:29:34,855
we add the reality that, like, we're talking

828
00:29:34,855 --> 00:29:36,554
about in general, where they're floating

829
00:29:37,095 --> 00:29:39,095
almost the problem as the solution. But as

830
00:29:39,095 --> 00:29:40,454
long as the good guy is pointing to

831
00:29:40,454 --> 00:29:42,230
it, then it's the right choice. You know?

832
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:44,069
The good guy AI, the good guy brain

833
00:29:44,069 --> 00:29:45,669
chip. And I think that's as simple as

834
00:29:45,669 --> 00:29:47,269
it gets. And I I I to your

835
00:29:47,269 --> 00:29:48,869
point, Catherine, I'm actually of the mind that

836
00:29:48,869 --> 00:29:49,609
it's rapidly

837
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:52,309
shrinking. And I think that's why there's so

838
00:29:52,309 --> 00:29:53,990
much kind of flailing desperation when we can

839
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:55,605
see through all of this stuff because it's

840
00:29:55,605 --> 00:29:57,845
just not working anymore. So there's a positive

841
00:29:57,845 --> 00:29:59,285
spin to that. You know? And I think

842
00:29:59,285 --> 00:30:00,724
that with Elon and the rest of them,

843
00:30:00,724 --> 00:30:02,724
I mean, it's just so transparently the opposite.

844
00:30:02,724 --> 00:30:04,244
You know, you're saving free speech while you're

845
00:30:04,244 --> 00:30:06,825
literally censoring people. I don't think that's working.

846
00:30:06,884 --> 00:30:08,244
But I just I think it's about people

847
00:30:08,244 --> 00:30:10,089
that need to believe in that. You know?

848
00:30:10,089 --> 00:30:11,289
So to to bring it back to the

849
00:30:11,289 --> 00:30:13,069
dollar in general, you know, to this tweet,

850
00:30:13,289 --> 00:30:14,569
you know, I think what's interesting is on

851
00:30:14,569 --> 00:30:16,269
top of just the idea of

852
00:30:16,809 --> 00:30:18,970
of doing the you know, what is kind

853
00:30:18,970 --> 00:30:21,690
of bolstering the establishment position from an outside

854
00:30:21,690 --> 00:30:23,049
perspective, if you will, if that's what they

855
00:30:23,049 --> 00:30:24,875
wanna see it, neither that they won't be

856
00:30:24,875 --> 00:30:26,394
able to create it. Like, so in what

857
00:30:26,394 --> 00:30:27,994
world do you are you saying you're gonna

858
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:29,914
stop them from doing what they would want

859
00:30:29,914 --> 00:30:31,674
to do even if it does counter your

860
00:30:31,674 --> 00:30:32,174
objective

861
00:30:32,714 --> 00:30:34,875
or not back any others? I mean, it's,

862
00:30:34,875 --> 00:30:36,634
you know, a 100% tariffs, which by the

863
00:30:36,634 --> 00:30:38,875
way is a tax on you, America. You

864
00:30:38,875 --> 00:30:41,089
know? And what's interesting about the whole thing

865
00:30:41,089 --> 00:30:42,309
is that it is

866
00:30:43,009 --> 00:30:46,049
an authoritarian position. But, there's no question about

867
00:30:46,049 --> 00:30:47,409
that. And so it comes to this idea

868
00:30:47,409 --> 00:30:49,809
where you're through this illusion, flimsy as it

869
00:30:49,809 --> 00:30:52,474
is of an outsider to to to get

870
00:30:52,474 --> 00:30:54,315
in the minds of Americans that were supposed

871
00:30:54,315 --> 00:30:55,835
to be like this. This is the might

872
00:30:55,835 --> 00:30:58,634
makes right perspective, and it's exactly the opposite.

873
00:30:58,634 --> 00:31:00,795
But here's the thing. It's it's it's an

874
00:31:00,795 --> 00:31:01,295
operationally

875
00:31:04,154 --> 00:31:06,474
it is operationally not possible to put a

876
00:31:06,474 --> 00:31:09,009
100% tariffs on. Right. In other words, if

877
00:31:09,009 --> 00:31:10,289
you look at the speed it would take

878
00:31:10,289 --> 00:31:13,009
us to replace and make the stuff we

879
00:31:13,009 --> 00:31:13,490
use

880
00:31:13,970 --> 00:31:15,190
I mean, you know,

881
00:31:15,650 --> 00:31:17,829
somebody the other day is a defense contractor,

882
00:31:17,970 --> 00:31:19,890
said it brilliantly. He said, the only way

883
00:31:19,890 --> 00:31:21,250
we can have a war with China is

884
00:31:21,250 --> 00:31:23,029
if China keeps making our weapons.

885
00:31:24,994 --> 00:31:25,734
That's right.

886
00:31:26,515 --> 00:31:29,234
So so it's not you know, what he's

887
00:31:29,234 --> 00:31:32,115
saying is not operationally feasible, and everybody knows

888
00:31:32,115 --> 00:31:32,615
that.

889
00:31:33,315 --> 00:31:34,914
Yep. And add add this, by the way,

890
00:31:35,315 --> 00:31:37,230
to the the point. This was just recently,

891
00:31:37,230 --> 00:31:39,630
at least disclosed TV reported this. China bans

892
00:31:39,630 --> 00:31:41,809
exports of gallium, germanium.

893
00:31:42,190 --> 00:31:43,710
I I'm not sure this is what? At

894
00:31:43,710 --> 00:31:44,529
at attimony?

895
00:31:44,910 --> 00:31:46,349
You don't mean I don't pronounce that one.

896
00:31:46,349 --> 00:31:47,650
What is it? Antimony.

897
00:31:47,950 --> 00:31:49,710
Antimony. Thank you. And these are just, you

898
00:31:49,710 --> 00:31:51,630
know, rare earth mineral important, you know. So

899
00:31:51,630 --> 00:31:53,615
it's I I think to your point, Catherine,

900
00:31:53,755 --> 00:31:55,515
I think this if you like, James Corbett

901
00:31:55,515 --> 00:31:57,035
has written over the years about the engineer

902
00:31:57,035 --> 00:31:58,795
fall of the west that very much feels

903
00:31:58,795 --> 00:32:00,394
like where this is going. Yeah. That's the

904
00:32:00,634 --> 00:32:01,994
if I can just jump in there. That's

905
00:32:01,994 --> 00:32:03,115
what I I mean, I think that,

906
00:32:04,234 --> 00:32:05,914
slabs scale the 2 things we were just

907
00:32:05,914 --> 00:32:06,894
talking about there.

908
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:10,039
I think for the long and you say,

909
00:32:10,039 --> 00:32:12,039
what do we expect from Trump's presidency? I

910
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:13,659
would ex I think Trump is

911
00:32:14,039 --> 00:32:14,779
the managed

912
00:32:15,799 --> 00:32:17,179
deterioration of America.

913
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,359
I think Trump is a a transfer team

914
00:32:20,359 --> 00:32:21,819
for the shift from

915
00:32:22,154 --> 00:32:24,075
America being the global hub of power to

916
00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:25,755
somewhere else. I'm not I'm not sure exactly

917
00:32:25,755 --> 00:32:26,955
what that will be, but I think that's

918
00:32:26,955 --> 00:32:27,934
what we can expect.

919
00:32:30,075 --> 00:32:31,755
And I think going back to the Elon

920
00:32:31,755 --> 00:32:33,755
Musk question, that's a very interesting question. Elon

921
00:32:33,755 --> 00:32:35,759
Musk does want New Relic. He does want

922
00:32:35,839 --> 00:32:37,359
a carbon tax. He said that before. He

923
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:38,019
does want

924
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:40,960
digital currencies. He's he's right there at the

925
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,480
forefront of all of that and is currently

926
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,700
anti establishment because the the grander propaganda

927
00:32:47,039 --> 00:32:49,140
thing here is to define what the establishment

928
00:32:49,359 --> 00:32:49,859
is.

929
00:32:51,194 --> 00:32:52,414
Define it for us,

930
00:32:53,274 --> 00:32:55,515
then kill it in front of our eyes

931
00:32:55,515 --> 00:32:57,454
and claim the establishment is gone.

932
00:32:57,835 --> 00:32:59,595
And what's in the establishment? Well, that's not

933
00:32:59,595 --> 00:33:01,755
tech technocratic stuff. That doesn't count. That's all

934
00:33:01,755 --> 00:33:04,234
rebellion stuff. Digital money? Elon Musk likes that.

935
00:33:04,234 --> 00:33:06,329
That's rebellion stuff. Stuff. That's anti establishment stuff.

936
00:33:06,329 --> 00:33:08,410
What's the establishment is? The dollar. What's the

937
00:33:08,410 --> 00:33:10,809
establishment is the FBI. What's the establishment is

938
00:33:10,809 --> 00:33:12,829
the wrong kind of politicians in the senate.

939
00:33:12,970 --> 00:33:14,569
So we'll stuff the senate with a bunch

940
00:33:14,569 --> 00:33:16,490
of loudmouth idiots who sound like they they

941
00:33:16,490 --> 00:33:18,829
were rebels when they don't even understand anything.

942
00:33:19,105 --> 00:33:20,625
We put an idiot in the White House

943
00:33:20,625 --> 00:33:23,105
who just blouse on about nonsense, and we'll

944
00:33:23,105 --> 00:33:25,684
claim that we've somehow overhauled the establishment

945
00:33:26,384 --> 00:33:28,625
whilst at the same time, pushing nothing but

946
00:33:28,625 --> 00:33:29,684
establishment agendas

947
00:33:29,984 --> 00:33:30,964
the whole time.

948
00:33:32,910 --> 00:33:33,410
And

949
00:33:34,110 --> 00:33:36,509
Yeah. I just wanna add real quick to

950
00:33:36,509 --> 00:33:38,430
that where I feel this the second time

951
00:33:38,430 --> 00:33:38,930
around.

952
00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:41,730
It's even more unnerving because

953
00:33:42,190 --> 00:33:45,470
it's more insidious as as Kit just explained.

954
00:33:45,470 --> 00:33:47,250
And, you know, here's just one more example.

955
00:33:47,794 --> 00:33:50,194
Jay, who's last name I can never, pronounce,

956
00:33:50,194 --> 00:33:51,015
Jay Bhattacharya,

957
00:33:51,474 --> 00:33:53,174
who's gonna be the head of the NIH,

958
00:33:53,634 --> 00:33:54,134
apparently.

959
00:33:54,674 --> 00:33:55,494
He he approved.

960
00:33:55,875 --> 00:33:57,554
He he did a lot of good work

961
00:33:57,554 --> 00:33:59,174
with COVID, but I just saw a clip

962
00:33:59,474 --> 00:34:01,954
of Peter Diehl speaking how he re referred

963
00:34:01,954 --> 00:34:04,660
to Jay as his friend. And then you

964
00:34:04,660 --> 00:34:06,840
you start seeing all these connections. I'm like,

965
00:34:06,900 --> 00:34:08,680
wait. Jay is friends with Peter Thiel?

966
00:34:09,059 --> 00:34:11,219
And then Thiel may you know, maybe he's

967
00:34:11,219 --> 00:34:13,140
wittingly or he who he might wittingly or

968
00:34:13,140 --> 00:34:16,019
unwittingly carry out ideas that Thiel has suggested

969
00:34:16,019 --> 00:34:17,160
to him because he trusts

970
00:34:17,835 --> 00:34:18,815
Thiel. And so,

971
00:34:19,514 --> 00:34:21,514
you know, just other things we haven't brought

972
00:34:21,514 --> 00:34:24,734
up either Sebastian Gorka, right, who's this crazy

973
00:34:25,195 --> 00:34:26,894
war hawk tied up with British

974
00:34:27,275 --> 00:34:28,494
intelligence. And so,

975
00:34:28,875 --> 00:34:29,994
yeah, you see all these you know, if

976
00:34:29,994 --> 00:34:31,675
you if you pull back the weeds, you

977
00:34:31,675 --> 00:34:34,000
see all these sort of maggots underneath.

978
00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:36,380
Well and and what's interesting about it all

979
00:34:36,380 --> 00:34:38,139
is that, you know, these are I mean,

980
00:34:38,139 --> 00:34:40,059
Bart Bodichar, for example, you know, of all

981
00:34:40,059 --> 00:34:41,739
of the picks, I would say, like, I'd

982
00:34:41,739 --> 00:34:43,260
say more like a Gabbard point is I

983
00:34:43,260 --> 00:34:45,099
don't I it's better, I guess, than some

984
00:34:45,099 --> 00:34:46,619
of the other ones we're talking about. But

985
00:34:46,619 --> 00:34:48,059
I I agree that if you look deep

986
00:34:48,139 --> 00:34:50,135
if you look into it, he was promoting

987
00:34:50,195 --> 00:34:51,954
the shots at some points. Saying, you know,

988
00:34:51,954 --> 00:34:53,474
yes, get this. It's good for some. Get,

989
00:34:53,474 --> 00:34:54,994
you know, get the booster. And so, you

990
00:34:54,994 --> 00:34:56,195
know, again, your to your point, and this

991
00:34:56,195 --> 00:34:57,635
is always the fair objective way to frame

992
00:34:57,635 --> 00:34:59,235
it. Maybe he's just wrong, but it still

993
00:34:59,235 --> 00:35:00,675
doesn't change the fact that he's wrong in

994
00:35:00,675 --> 00:35:02,515
a very important way and that's being, you

995
00:35:02,515 --> 00:35:04,260
know, chosen for this. But I agree with

996
00:35:04,260 --> 00:35:06,179
you. I think it stands to reason with

997
00:35:06,179 --> 00:35:07,940
the the teal overlap and there's different things

998
00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:09,780
that these are people that are more apt

999
00:35:09,780 --> 00:35:11,460
to lean in that direction if they're, you

1000
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:12,980
know, whether they believe it's right or wrong

1001
00:35:12,980 --> 00:35:14,099
or not. And I think that's it's an

1002
00:35:14,099 --> 00:35:16,360
alarming aspect of it. The the the,

1003
00:35:19,005 --> 00:35:21,244
Gorka example. You know? These are people that

1004
00:35:21,244 --> 00:35:21,744
are

1005
00:35:22,605 --> 00:35:25,404
they demonstrate exactly the same problems as everybody

1006
00:35:25,404 --> 00:35:26,924
else they claim they're pushing back against, but

1007
00:35:26,924 --> 00:35:28,844
because it's under a flavor of MAGA or

1008
00:35:28,844 --> 00:35:30,605
at least feigning to the right, it just

1009
00:35:30,605 --> 00:35:32,525
gets ignored. You know? And so in in

1010
00:35:32,525 --> 00:35:34,204
general, I I mean, I I'm all about

1011
00:35:34,352 --> 00:35:35,559
I the the administrative

1012
00:35:35,860 --> 00:35:37,699
picks, at least what they're putting forward before

1013
00:35:37,699 --> 00:35:39,460
they gets confirmed or not, I think are

1014
00:35:39,460 --> 00:35:41,380
very, very important to talk about. But, generally,

1015
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:42,739
today, we were gonna get more into the

1016
00:35:42,739 --> 00:35:44,659
policy. But I I think the idea of

1017
00:35:44,659 --> 00:35:46,340
the picks themselves tend to overlap. So feel

1018
00:35:46,340 --> 00:35:48,019
free to jump back and forth, guys, between

1019
00:35:48,019 --> 00:35:50,614
between between Let Let me bring up one

1020
00:35:50,614 --> 00:35:53,574
one policy. So I've been watching Doge very

1021
00:35:53,574 --> 00:35:54,074
carefully,

1022
00:35:54,855 --> 00:35:57,094
and, obviously, it's, you know, it's just an

1023
00:35:57,094 --> 00:35:59,675
invention in everybody's mind right now. But,

1024
00:36:00,295 --> 00:36:02,534
it has been announced that the first audit

1025
00:36:02,534 --> 00:36:04,215
that Doge is gonna do is of the

1026
00:36:04,215 --> 00:36:04,715
IRS.

1027
00:36:05,630 --> 00:36:07,630
And I wanna point out 2 things because

1028
00:36:07,630 --> 00:36:09,730
I I have a very suspicious mind.

1029
00:36:10,430 --> 00:36:12,590
Last year, Janet Yellen said that the American

1030
00:36:12,590 --> 00:36:14,449
people owe 2 $7,000,000,000,000

1031
00:36:15,469 --> 00:36:17,809
in back taxes, uncollected taxes.

1032
00:36:18,974 --> 00:36:20,894
And if you audit if you were gonna

1033
00:36:20,894 --> 00:36:21,875
audit the 21,000,000,000,000

1034
00:36:22,255 --> 00:36:22,994
that's missing,

1035
00:36:23,534 --> 00:36:26,414
you would audit the Treasury, the DOD, HUD,

1036
00:36:26,414 --> 00:36:28,574
and the New York Fed. You wouldn't audit

1037
00:36:28,574 --> 00:36:30,594
the IRS. You can't find anything there.

1038
00:36:31,859 --> 00:36:33,619
If, you know, if you were gonna audit

1039
00:36:33,619 --> 00:36:36,500
all sorts of other serious financial pot crimes

1040
00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:38,179
and sort of the breaking of the financial

1041
00:36:38,179 --> 00:36:41,059
management loans, it wouldn't be the IRS. What

1042
00:36:41,059 --> 00:36:43,059
what you would do if you were doing

1043
00:36:43,059 --> 00:36:45,284
the IRS is you would be trying to

1044
00:36:45,284 --> 00:36:46,184
collect the $7,000,000,000,000.

1045
00:36:47,045 --> 00:36:49,925
And if you look at what Palantir does

1046
00:36:49,925 --> 00:36:52,585
and the the, you know, sort of the

1047
00:36:54,484 --> 00:36:56,105
the power of its software,

1048
00:36:57,140 --> 00:36:59,539
its software is perfect to track down and

1049
00:36:59,539 --> 00:37:00,920
try and collect that $7,000,000,000,000

1050
00:37:01,460 --> 00:37:01,960
from

1051
00:37:02,579 --> 00:37:03,640
everyday Americans.

1052
00:37:04,099 --> 00:37:06,099
So the one thing I would say is

1053
00:37:06,099 --> 00:37:07,960
that it looks to me,

1054
00:37:08,579 --> 00:37:10,260
if you look at those that you're looking

1055
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:13,214
at something that's much more designed potentially to

1056
00:37:13,214 --> 00:37:13,714
plunder,

1057
00:37:14,815 --> 00:37:16,275
than to really fix things.

1058
00:37:18,094 --> 00:37:19,775
Yeah. I I wholeheartedly agree with that. And

1059
00:37:19,775 --> 00:37:21,214
I think the point again is to whether

1060
00:37:21,214 --> 00:37:23,134
this even becomes something, whether they're even nominated

1061
00:37:23,134 --> 00:37:24,414
in the in the first place, but I

1062
00:37:24,414 --> 00:37:26,429
think that what it's being outlined as and

1063
00:37:26,670 --> 00:37:28,030
I think we actually expressed this in the

1064
00:37:28,030 --> 00:37:29,309
last panel as well. It's just sort of

1065
00:37:29,309 --> 00:37:30,929
like this very obvious

1066
00:37:31,389 --> 00:37:33,630
trap door or whatever you'd call it, a

1067
00:37:33,630 --> 00:37:36,750
trap in regard to the artificial intelligence example,

1068
00:37:36,750 --> 00:37:38,589
you know, where it's quite on the surface

1069
00:37:38,589 --> 00:37:40,989
of it. They're openly already leaning in, pointing

1070
00:37:40,989 --> 00:37:43,864
to using AI to better, you know, make

1071
00:37:43,864 --> 00:37:45,945
things more efficient. Where in some cases, you

1072
00:37:45,945 --> 00:37:48,025
could obviously point out that that probably would

1073
00:37:48,025 --> 00:37:49,864
have some level of effect in a positive

1074
00:37:49,864 --> 00:37:52,344
way. It's good. Here here's the thing to

1075
00:37:52,344 --> 00:37:54,824
understand. If you're gonna use AI to do

1076
00:37:54,824 --> 00:37:57,460
that, it means you're gonna bring in corporate

1077
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:58,099
contractors

1078
00:37:58,639 --> 00:38:00,800
to use AI to do that. You're not

1079
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,219
gonna you're not gonna give AI's,

1080
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:04,980
tools to the

1081
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:07,359
to the civil service. And in fact, it

1082
00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:09,119
looks to me like they're trying to destroy

1083
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,445
the civil service so you can have a

1084
00:38:11,445 --> 00:38:13,625
complete corporate takeover of the government.

1085
00:38:13,925 --> 00:38:15,945
I mean, if you wanna get to taxation

1086
00:38:16,005 --> 00:38:18,005
without representation, what do you do? You do

1087
00:38:18,005 --> 00:38:20,405
digital ID, CBDC, and you kill the civil

1088
00:38:20,405 --> 00:38:20,905
service.

1089
00:38:21,525 --> 00:38:23,780
Yep. And on top of that, the the

1090
00:38:23,780 --> 00:38:25,400
the large portion of the

1091
00:38:26,420 --> 00:38:28,900
AI elements are gonna be these Israeli start

1092
00:38:28,900 --> 00:38:30,500
up companies. And I was just covering this

1093
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:32,579
recently on the show, and that's very alarming.

1094
00:38:32,579 --> 00:38:33,079
But

1095
00:38:33,460 --> 00:38:35,539
even just the spyware itself, which is intertwined

1096
00:38:35,539 --> 00:38:37,465
with all these, Derek was just covering this.

1097
00:38:37,465 --> 00:38:38,184
It's about 4

1098
00:38:38,984 --> 00:38:41,224
about almost 50% of the market of spyware

1099
00:38:41,224 --> 00:38:43,385
alone is Israeli startup companies, you know. And

1100
00:38:43,385 --> 00:38:45,545
it doesn't have to inherently mean that these

1101
00:38:45,545 --> 00:38:47,945
are malicious. But if you understand the overlap

1102
00:38:47,945 --> 00:38:48,844
there to the intelligence

1103
00:38:49,224 --> 00:38:51,300
elements, I mean, it's a very alarming point.

1104
00:38:51,460 --> 00:38:53,059
Now, we're talking about rolling out AI for

1105
00:38:53,140 --> 00:38:54,500
and this is just one element of what

1106
00:38:54,500 --> 00:38:56,280
they're using these for for efficiency.

1107
00:38:56,660 --> 00:38:58,900
And that's gonna end up being internally inter

1108
00:38:58,980 --> 00:39:01,539
interwoven with just about everything financial this country

1109
00:39:01,539 --> 00:39:02,980
does and a lot more. I don't know

1110
00:39:02,980 --> 00:39:04,340
why that's not a huge red flag. For

1111
00:39:04,340 --> 00:39:05,954
those out there from the right side that

1112
00:39:06,035 --> 00:39:07,954
don't see the threat for Israel, make it

1113
00:39:07,954 --> 00:39:09,795
China. Right? I mean, in your mind, whatever

1114
00:39:09,795 --> 00:39:11,315
it is, a foreign entity that has that

1115
00:39:11,315 --> 00:39:13,575
kind of access is very concerning to me.

1116
00:39:13,954 --> 00:39:16,434
So I just wanna point out, Matt Gaetz,

1117
00:39:16,434 --> 00:39:18,454
who went down quickly as the,

1118
00:39:19,315 --> 00:39:21,015
nominee for attorney general,

1119
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:24,579
has never received any any contributions

1120
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,519
from APAC or pretty much any. And if

1121
00:39:27,519 --> 00:39:28,880
you go look at his current,

1122
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,539
page on open secrets, he's only got $9,000

1123
00:39:32,559 --> 00:39:34,559
he's ever taken in from PACS. Most of

1124
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:35,940
his money is from individuals.

1125
00:39:36,785 --> 00:39:39,204
So he's no APAC. Massey,

1126
00:39:39,744 --> 00:39:42,224
many people hope Massey would get the the

1127
00:39:42,224 --> 00:39:44,885
department secretary of agriculture nod.

1128
00:39:45,184 --> 00:39:47,585
He also refuses to take money from APAC,

1129
00:39:47,585 --> 00:39:48,805
and APAC spent

1130
00:39:49,230 --> 00:39:49,730
400,000

1131
00:39:50,030 --> 00:39:51,309
plus trying to get rid of him, and

1132
00:39:51,309 --> 00:39:53,309
it it didn't, you know, it didn't even

1133
00:39:53,309 --> 00:39:55,869
bump his numbers at all. So it didn't

1134
00:39:55,869 --> 00:39:58,349
work, but he clearly didn't get secretary back.

1135
00:39:58,349 --> 00:39:58,849
So,

1136
00:39:59,309 --> 00:40:01,309
you know, it it does seem that Israel

1137
00:40:01,309 --> 00:40:03,309
is sort of a a gatekeeper on the

1138
00:40:03,309 --> 00:40:03,809
nominees.

1139
00:40:04,510 --> 00:40:06,144
And And as we mentioned already, Pam Bondi,

1140
00:40:06,144 --> 00:40:08,405
the replace Gates, again, still just the nominee,

1141
00:40:08,864 --> 00:40:11,585
is, openly, aggressively pro Israel. And the point

1142
00:40:11,585 --> 00:40:12,864
to say the point to make in all

1143
00:40:12,864 --> 00:40:14,704
these is not just that they're pro Israel,

1144
00:40:14,704 --> 00:40:16,864
but pro Israel at the expense of American

1145
00:40:16,864 --> 00:40:18,280
rights. And this is very clear based on

1146
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,960
the way they discuss this in the context

1147
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,239
of free speech and a lot of other

1148
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:21,739
things.

1149
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:25,639
Well, and Beyondy has an Epstein overlap too

1150
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:27,239
that shouldn't be, you know,

1151
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,780
ignored in terms of examining how she might

1152
00:40:31,474 --> 00:40:31,974
behave

1153
00:40:32,275 --> 00:40:33,815
in that AG position.

1154
00:40:34,594 --> 00:40:35,094
Absolutely.

1155
00:40:36,195 --> 00:40:37,635
Well, so on that point then, let let's

1156
00:40:37,635 --> 00:40:39,954
let's get into some other specific policies. So

1157
00:40:39,954 --> 00:40:41,715
do any other thoughts on could just just

1158
00:40:41,835 --> 00:40:41,954
Mhmm.

1159
00:40:43,989 --> 00:40:46,010
Finish on the pics. Like, the

1160
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:49,030
a lot of it is gonna be a

1161
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:50,170
more fluid situation

1162
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:51,910
than like, a lot of it will be

1163
00:40:51,910 --> 00:40:53,590
putting names out there and seeing how the

1164
00:40:53,590 --> 00:40:55,210
public react. Right.

1165
00:40:55,670 --> 00:40:58,250
And and, like, people said at first

1166
00:40:59,164 --> 00:41:01,164
when it was rumored that he'll be distancing

1167
00:41:01,164 --> 00:41:02,065
himself from Kennedy,

1168
00:41:02,844 --> 00:41:03,905
people complained

1169
00:41:04,204 --> 00:41:05,965
that didn't happen in the end. Kennedy has

1170
00:41:05,965 --> 00:41:08,045
now put forward for whatever it is, health

1171
00:41:08,045 --> 00:41:09,025
secretary or something.

1172
00:41:11,644 --> 00:41:12,125
But the

1173
00:41:12,860 --> 00:41:14,460
this is this is itself sort of a

1174
00:41:14,460 --> 00:41:17,340
reality TV, like, episode where Trump can basically

1175
00:41:17,340 --> 00:41:18,480
name whoever he wants

1176
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:21,420
in order to get his good boy points

1177
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:22,860
because they will have to be confirmed by

1178
00:41:22,860 --> 00:41:23,840
the senate anyway.

1179
00:41:24,300 --> 00:41:26,059
So even if he had he can pick

1180
00:41:26,059 --> 00:41:27,994
people he has, he knows he has no

1181
00:41:27,994 --> 00:41:29,594
chance of ever getting the job, and I

1182
00:41:29,594 --> 00:41:31,454
think there are several on his list already

1183
00:41:31,515 --> 00:41:32,655
that won't be approved.

1184
00:41:33,195 --> 00:41:33,775
I mean,

1185
00:41:34,155 --> 00:41:35,755
I can't think of the, the guy the

1186
00:41:35,755 --> 00:41:37,215
FBI guy you just named.

1187
00:41:37,515 --> 00:41:39,454
Cash Oh, Cash Bekel. Thank you. Yeah.

1188
00:41:40,795 --> 00:41:42,175
Maybe Kennedy himself.

1189
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:45,349
There are several. And and that will in

1190
00:41:45,349 --> 00:41:47,989
that way, when nothing changes, people will say,

1191
00:41:47,989 --> 00:41:48,630
well, he was

1192
00:41:49,269 --> 00:41:51,429
Trump was handicapped by the senate who wouldn't

1193
00:41:51,429 --> 00:41:52,329
pick his guys.

1194
00:41:52,630 --> 00:41:53,130
Right.

1195
00:41:54,069 --> 00:41:55,750
And then he'll be tricked by the deep

1196
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:58,155
state again. Sorry, Ron. Good. No. That's I

1197
00:41:58,155 --> 00:41:59,675
just I say the same thing. I wholeheartedly

1198
00:41:59,675 --> 00:42:00,954
agree, and I think this is a very

1199
00:42:00,954 --> 00:42:02,635
easy part of this to see. Like, I

1200
00:42:02,635 --> 00:42:04,235
make the same point with RFK Junior, for

1201
00:42:04,235 --> 00:42:05,295
example. And, again,

1202
00:42:05,755 --> 00:42:08,075
my perspective comes from the left right paradigm

1203
00:42:08,075 --> 00:42:10,075
as a ploy from a government entity trying

1204
00:42:10,075 --> 00:42:12,099
to rationalize the choices they want. Right? So

1205
00:42:12,099 --> 00:42:13,539
I see it. Either way, it's the same

1206
00:42:13,539 --> 00:42:15,859
point that the RFK point is that he

1207
00:42:15,859 --> 00:42:18,339
gets floated floated and knowing the senate or

1208
00:42:18,339 --> 00:42:20,179
just the government doesn't want him in that

1209
00:42:20,179 --> 00:42:21,859
position. So then Trump can stand back and

1210
00:42:21,859 --> 00:42:23,539
act like he tried. The democrats wouldn't let

1211
00:42:23,539 --> 00:42:25,155
him and, you know, it ends up being

1212
00:42:25,155 --> 00:42:27,074
the same dynamic or more so from the

1213
00:42:27,074 --> 00:42:28,515
2 party part of it that Trump is

1214
00:42:28,515 --> 00:42:30,675
putting forward people that he knows they'll push

1215
00:42:30,675 --> 00:42:33,394
back on. So the other person who's just

1216
00:42:33,394 --> 00:42:35,394
a little bit less bad ends up being

1217
00:42:35,394 --> 00:42:36,755
the one, but that's the one he wanted

1218
00:42:36,755 --> 00:42:38,210
all along. I mean, these are easy things

1219
00:42:38,210 --> 00:42:39,409
to wrap your mind around. It's the lesser

1220
00:42:39,409 --> 00:42:41,429
of Eagles dynamic on a senate confirmation

1221
00:42:41,730 --> 00:42:43,829
situation here. And I think that that's problematic

1222
00:42:44,130 --> 00:42:46,210
because all these people like, can you imagine

1223
00:42:46,210 --> 00:42:48,049
all the different people that could be put

1224
00:42:48,049 --> 00:42:50,289
forward out there that maybe aren't politicians that

1225
00:42:50,289 --> 00:42:52,775
are just, you know, educating certain policy. I

1226
00:42:52,775 --> 00:42:54,855
mean, to pretend just like with the presidential

1227
00:42:54,855 --> 00:42:56,295
dynamic, if this is the best that they

1228
00:42:56,295 --> 00:42:58,694
have to offer, these are insider swamp creatures,

1229
00:42:58,694 --> 00:42:59,974
you know. So I I agree with your

1230
00:42:59,974 --> 00:43:01,734
point. I think that I think, I mean,

1231
00:43:01,734 --> 00:43:03,014
what do you guys think in general? Quick

1232
00:43:03,014 --> 00:43:04,315
quick question. Do you think

1233
00:43:04,750 --> 00:43:06,510
conservatives are seeing through this in a large

1234
00:43:06,510 --> 00:43:07,789
way, or do you think this is more

1235
00:43:07,789 --> 00:43:10,349
just my over, you know, hope wishful thinking

1236
00:43:10,349 --> 00:43:10,849
opinion?

1237
00:43:13,869 --> 00:43:15,970
I I see a good portion that are

1238
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:18,525
buying into it. I'm not as I I'm

1239
00:43:18,525 --> 00:43:20,925
more cynical being, you know, from the Balkans

1240
00:43:20,925 --> 00:43:23,164
myself. Yes. But but,

1241
00:43:23,885 --> 00:43:25,324
just to go back to the when you

1242
00:43:25,324 --> 00:43:27,804
mentioned policy in the techno populist angle, you

1243
00:43:27,804 --> 00:43:29,324
know, I was looking at one of the

1244
00:43:29,324 --> 00:43:29,824
unpolitifact.

1245
00:43:30,125 --> 00:43:30,945
Right? Mainstream

1246
00:43:31,630 --> 00:43:33,809
news, where it says, Trump wants to end

1247
00:43:33,869 --> 00:43:36,590
a mobile phone application that migrants use to

1248
00:43:36,590 --> 00:43:38,929
access customs and border protection services.

1249
00:43:39,389 --> 00:43:40,690
Even though his administration

1250
00:43:41,469 --> 00:43:43,550
launched the tool in 2020, again, it's like

1251
00:43:43,550 --> 00:43:45,230
the whole Operation Warp Speed thing. And I

1252
00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:46,815
think his handle before were

1253
00:43:47,694 --> 00:43:49,775
by hook or by crook. Because of migration,

1254
00:43:49,775 --> 00:43:51,614
they wanna deport people. How are they gonna

1255
00:43:51,614 --> 00:43:54,574
classify, sift through who's been deported, who's not?

1256
00:43:54,574 --> 00:43:56,574
You know, digital IDs, there's clips of Trump

1257
00:43:56,574 --> 00:43:58,114
years back talking about

1258
00:43:58,894 --> 00:44:00,114
using these technologies

1259
00:44:00,574 --> 00:44:03,039
to, you know, close off the border and

1260
00:44:03,039 --> 00:44:05,280
and all this stuff. And the EU next

1261
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,320
year is onboarding the EES entry exit system

1262
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,079
and ATS. So now when you go to

1263
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,480
non Europeans going to Europe, you're gonna have

1264
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:14,324
to first apply through a social credit

1265
00:44:14,644 --> 00:44:16,964
system before you go. And then when you

1266
00:44:16,964 --> 00:44:18,964
get there, they're gonna take your eye scans

1267
00:44:18,964 --> 00:44:19,864
and and fingerprints,

1268
00:44:20,244 --> 00:44:20,984
and I think

1269
00:44:21,445 --> 00:44:22,724
they're gonna do the same in the US

1270
00:44:22,724 --> 00:44:24,405
and every country, matter of fact. So they're

1271
00:44:24,405 --> 00:44:27,159
gonna be building these entry exit systems in

1272
00:44:27,159 --> 00:44:27,900
every country

1273
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:29,559
around the world. And so I think that's

1274
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:31,559
gonna be part of the techno populist plan.

1275
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,820
And I think we'll also see North American

1276
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:34,780
integration

1277
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:37,099
somehow. They'll be pushing that,

1278
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:39,960
and then you've got the war aspect as

1279
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,739
well. I think they're gonna Trump is

1280
00:44:42,114 --> 00:44:43,875
the guy for pushing war with,

1281
00:44:44,434 --> 00:44:45,894
Iran and perhaps pivoting

1282
00:44:46,195 --> 00:44:46,594
to,

1283
00:44:47,155 --> 00:44:48,215
China. And

1284
00:44:48,994 --> 00:44:50,755
and just kind of warning Canada with the

1285
00:44:50,755 --> 00:44:52,275
United States, I think, for the last couple

1286
00:44:52,275 --> 00:44:54,035
days if you saw that. So there you

1287
00:44:54,035 --> 00:44:56,530
go. Go ahead, Steve. No. And to to

1288
00:44:56,530 --> 00:44:58,070
kind of put a cap on,

1289
00:44:59,089 --> 00:44:59,989
you know, how

1290
00:45:00,929 --> 00:45:03,589
the the right has reacted to these picks.

1291
00:45:05,170 --> 00:45:06,849
Some of you guys know that,

1292
00:45:07,250 --> 00:45:09,425
you know, like, 20 5 years ago or

1293
00:45:09,425 --> 00:45:11,744
whatever. I used to do Renaissance Festivals all

1294
00:45:11,744 --> 00:45:12,565
over the country.

1295
00:45:12,945 --> 00:45:13,425
And,

1296
00:45:14,144 --> 00:45:16,085
there was a a particular event

1297
00:45:16,465 --> 00:45:19,204
that would happen called Mimosa Monday,

1298
00:45:19,505 --> 00:45:22,724
where after a particularly grueling week that involved

1299
00:45:22,769 --> 00:45:25,170
trying to entertain middle school and high school

1300
00:45:25,170 --> 00:45:27,090
kids for 3 days during the week when

1301
00:45:27,090 --> 00:45:28,929
you're supposed to be preparing for your weekend

1302
00:45:28,929 --> 00:45:30,929
work, you then had to go into your

1303
00:45:30,929 --> 00:45:32,769
weekend work, which was also a 3 day

1304
00:45:32,769 --> 00:45:35,110
weekend, and then see you have Mimosa Monday.

1305
00:45:35,175 --> 00:45:35,675
And

1306
00:45:36,695 --> 00:45:39,255
so, at Mimosa Monday, every time somebody would

1307
00:45:39,255 --> 00:45:40,934
show up, everyone who was already there would

1308
00:45:40,934 --> 00:45:41,675
go, yay.

1309
00:45:41,974 --> 00:45:43,735
And then when they would leave, everyone go

1310
00:45:43,735 --> 00:45:44,235
boo.

1311
00:45:45,094 --> 00:45:46,775
And and it went on for the better

1312
00:45:46,775 --> 00:45:49,269
part of the day. And that's where the

1313
00:45:49,269 --> 00:45:52,469
population is right now in terms of team

1314
00:45:52,469 --> 00:45:54,869
sports mentality with how all of these picks

1315
00:45:54,869 --> 00:45:57,670
are going. They'll throw a cash Patel or

1316
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:59,909
a Tulsi Gabbard or an RFK at everybody

1317
00:45:59,909 --> 00:46:00,730
go, yay.

1318
00:46:01,190 --> 00:46:02,869
And then, you know, they'll bring up,

1319
00:46:04,335 --> 00:46:05,394
dude for DEA

1320
00:46:06,014 --> 00:46:06,335
or,

1321
00:46:06,974 --> 00:46:08,514
the the you know,

1322
00:46:09,295 --> 00:46:11,775
all of the Bolton and Mike Pompeo acolytes.

1323
00:46:11,775 --> 00:46:13,375
And then we'll go, boo, and then they'll

1324
00:46:13,375 --> 00:46:15,775
just go on with their day because that's

1325
00:46:15,775 --> 00:46:18,469
all the energy that, you know, a lot

1326
00:46:18,469 --> 00:46:20,949
of people have to give to this. And

1327
00:46:20,949 --> 00:46:22,969
if you can capture a news cycle

1328
00:46:23,269 --> 00:46:24,489
where it looks like

1329
00:46:24,869 --> 00:46:27,429
the other team is angry, then you feel

1330
00:46:27,429 --> 00:46:27,929
good.

1331
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:30,069
And if it looks like the other team

1332
00:46:30,069 --> 00:46:31,574
is like, oh, well, that seems to be

1333
00:46:31,574 --> 00:46:33,574
a reasonable blah blah blah. You're like, oh,

1334
00:46:33,574 --> 00:46:35,355
what the heck is this, you know,

1335
00:46:35,894 --> 00:46:38,135
deep state no good, Nick, doing in my

1336
00:46:38,135 --> 00:46:38,635
administration?

1337
00:46:39,335 --> 00:46:39,835
Yeah.

1338
00:46:40,135 --> 00:46:42,074
It's like it's like getting a trade

1339
00:46:42,775 --> 00:46:44,775
for a player that you don't like from

1340
00:46:44,775 --> 00:46:45,675
another team.

1341
00:46:46,089 --> 00:46:48,409
And that's the mentality that it's being approached.

1342
00:46:48,409 --> 00:46:50,889
It's certainly the level of discourse that I

1343
00:46:50,889 --> 00:46:53,130
see about it, especially from a lot of

1344
00:46:53,130 --> 00:46:54,829
the mainstream alternative media.

1345
00:46:55,690 --> 00:46:57,449
Yeah. I saw a recent study that was

1346
00:46:57,449 --> 00:46:59,054
going around. No. I saw it was I

1347
00:46:59,054 --> 00:47:00,094
don't know if it's recent. I saw a

1348
00:47:00,094 --> 00:47:02,014
discussion of a study that was going around

1349
00:47:02,014 --> 00:47:03,614
that it might not be recent. But the

1350
00:47:03,614 --> 00:47:04,594
point being that

1351
00:47:04,894 --> 00:47:07,135
in the general recent time frame of politics,

1352
00:47:07,135 --> 00:47:08,974
like last decade, it seems that we generally

1353
00:47:08,974 --> 00:47:11,295
focus more, which we all see. We are

1354
00:47:11,295 --> 00:47:13,295
led more by the ideas of what they're

1355
00:47:13,295 --> 00:47:14,034
putting forward

1356
00:47:14,369 --> 00:47:15,969
than what they actually do, which we all

1357
00:47:15,969 --> 00:47:17,889
know. But this is being, like, statistically mapped

1358
00:47:17,889 --> 00:47:19,650
out. How people tend to just fall into

1359
00:47:19,650 --> 00:47:21,009
what they go, we're gonna do this and

1360
00:47:21,009 --> 00:47:22,449
we're gonna do that. And we all know

1361
00:47:22,449 --> 00:47:23,969
that they're just saying what we wanna hear,

1362
00:47:23,969 --> 00:47:25,329
but yet people seem to be swayed by

1363
00:47:25,329 --> 00:47:27,054
that more than ever. You know, so I

1364
00:47:27,054 --> 00:47:28,574
I agree. I think it's very obvious that

1365
00:47:28,574 --> 00:47:30,414
this is, you know, that that that if

1366
00:47:30,414 --> 00:47:32,094
the best they can do is, you know,

1367
00:47:32,094 --> 00:47:34,175
be happy the other side's irritated. Well, I

1368
00:47:34,175 --> 00:47:36,335
I think that's very much engineered. So let

1369
00:47:36,414 --> 00:47:38,255
let's start with a very large example of

1370
00:47:38,255 --> 00:47:39,615
all this that work was just pointing to

1371
00:47:39,615 --> 00:47:41,859
in in regard immigration. Right? The idea of

1372
00:47:41,859 --> 00:47:43,539
the mass deportation. Like, this is one of

1373
00:47:43,539 --> 00:47:45,699
the biggest policy points that I think, you

1374
00:47:45,699 --> 00:47:47,380
know, that I think it'd be really hard

1375
00:47:47,380 --> 00:47:48,579
for him to pull back on this. Some

1376
00:47:48,579 --> 00:47:49,859
of the rest of the things they float

1377
00:47:49,859 --> 00:47:51,619
when they're running, you know, they tend to

1378
00:47:51,619 --> 00:47:52,900
float a lot of things that don't come

1379
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:54,174
to pass. That one, I think, will be

1380
00:47:54,174 --> 00:47:55,375
a very hard one to hold back on.

1381
00:47:55,375 --> 00:47:57,474
The mass the largest mass deportation

1382
00:47:58,174 --> 00:48:00,494
effort in American history. Okay. So I think

1383
00:48:00,494 --> 00:48:01,534
there's a lot of things that stand out

1384
00:48:01,534 --> 00:48:03,534
in this immigration point in general, like, some

1385
00:48:03,534 --> 00:48:04,894
of the things that, like, Forbes is writing

1386
00:48:04,894 --> 00:48:07,614
for example. To prohibit undocumented immigrants from receiving

1387
00:48:07,614 --> 00:48:08,275
any benefits

1388
00:48:08,619 --> 00:48:11,119
and birthright citizenship for citizens of undocumented

1389
00:48:11,739 --> 00:48:12,239
undocumented

1390
00:48:12,780 --> 00:48:15,019
immigrants, reinstituting a travel ban for example from

1391
00:48:15,019 --> 00:48:15,760
other countries.

1392
00:48:16,139 --> 00:48:17,420
The one that stood out to me was

1393
00:48:17,420 --> 00:48:19,980
mandate extreme vetting of foreign nationals, block other

1394
00:48:19,980 --> 00:48:21,440
grants to think to more cities,

1395
00:48:21,795 --> 00:48:22,614
and, ultimately,

1396
00:48:23,155 --> 00:48:25,414
like these policies that lead to more invasive

1397
00:48:26,355 --> 00:48:28,034
spying on Americans. Right? So some of these

1398
00:48:28,034 --> 00:48:29,974
things you could point out are are legally

1399
00:48:30,034 --> 00:48:32,034
makes sense, but the worry is whether these

1400
00:48:32,034 --> 00:48:33,894
are just a segue into more

1401
00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:36,420
surveillance of Americans whether on the border or

1402
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:38,260
not. So let's talk about immigration. Any any

1403
00:48:38,340 --> 00:48:40,280
start wherever you want. Anybody wanna jump in.

1404
00:48:41,219 --> 00:48:42,820
I would say we're at the point where

1405
00:48:42,820 --> 00:48:45,300
we're not really talking policies anymore. Policy isn't

1406
00:48:45,300 --> 00:48:47,079
the word. What we're looking for is excuses.

1407
00:48:47,484 --> 00:48:50,525
Mhmm. The the American excuse for digital ID

1408
00:48:50,525 --> 00:48:51,984
is Right. Is illegal immigrants.

1409
00:48:52,684 --> 00:48:54,284
Get round people up, put them in camps,

1410
00:48:54,284 --> 00:48:56,045
take their biometrics, whatever, because we hate the

1411
00:48:56,284 --> 00:48:56,605
on on

1412
00:48:57,565 --> 00:48:59,025
you mentioned the European

1413
00:49:00,119 --> 00:49:02,199
ESS coming in. That's meant to be about

1414
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:04,440
efficiency. That's about efficiency and saving time and

1415
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,619
saving money, but it's the same exact thing.

1416
00:49:07,639 --> 00:49:09,480
In Britain as well, it's gonna be about,

1417
00:49:09,799 --> 00:49:10,859
stopping immigrants.

1418
00:49:13,454 --> 00:49:15,775
Other countries, it will be about securing the

1419
00:49:15,775 --> 00:49:17,934
border because of pandemics and so on and

1420
00:49:17,934 --> 00:49:18,594
so on.

1421
00:49:19,135 --> 00:49:21,055
These are excuses to do what they always

1422
00:49:21,055 --> 00:49:22,434
wanna do. They're not policies.

1423
00:49:23,535 --> 00:49:25,454
Maybe they'll be nasty poor people. Maybe they

1424
00:49:25,454 --> 00:49:27,135
won't. They'll they'll certainly spend a lot of

1425
00:49:27,135 --> 00:49:29,170
money building camps to store illegal immigrants in

1426
00:49:29,170 --> 00:49:31,250
and government contracts from the court to doing

1427
00:49:31,250 --> 00:49:31,750
it.

1428
00:49:32,610 --> 00:49:34,530
But whether or not they actually deport anybody,

1429
00:49:34,530 --> 00:49:35,349
it's it's

1430
00:49:35,650 --> 00:49:37,329
they don't care. They can just say they

1431
00:49:37,329 --> 00:49:39,650
did for one thing. Mhmm. They they can

1432
00:49:39,650 --> 00:49:41,090
stick a headline on the New York Times

1433
00:49:41,090 --> 00:49:43,335
that says they've deported 200,000 people since June,

1434
00:49:43,414 --> 00:49:44,534
and no one's gonna be able to say

1435
00:49:44,534 --> 00:49:45,195
he didn't.

1436
00:49:46,454 --> 00:49:48,295
It's a good point. Yeah. Well, I mean,

1437
00:49:48,295 --> 00:49:49,894
I I think in the idea of the

1438
00:49:49,894 --> 00:49:50,635
mass deportation,

1439
00:49:51,175 --> 00:49:51,994
it would be

1440
00:49:52,695 --> 00:49:55,094
difficult, I argue, to not do something. Right?

1441
00:49:55,094 --> 00:49:56,534
So, like, in like, what I think you're

1442
00:49:56,614 --> 00:49:58,469
it's interesting point that this could just be.

1443
00:49:58,630 --> 00:49:59,909
Well, I'm what what are the record you

1444
00:49:59,909 --> 00:50:01,829
think about the actual legitimacy of the entire

1445
00:50:01,829 --> 00:50:03,429
program? Do you think that there will be

1446
00:50:03,429 --> 00:50:05,269
a mass deportation? Or to Kit's point, do

1447
00:50:05,269 --> 00:50:07,589
you think that's just the entirely bloated guys?

1448
00:50:07,589 --> 00:50:08,869
I guess what I'm saying is I think

1449
00:50:08,869 --> 00:50:10,969
there are very clearly people within the republican

1450
00:50:11,030 --> 00:50:13,030
side that do have a very clear agenda

1451
00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:15,034
within that from a specific like, not just

1452
00:50:15,034 --> 00:50:16,394
the means to an end, but really do

1453
00:50:16,394 --> 00:50:18,394
have an interest in this for other local

1454
00:50:18,394 --> 00:50:20,875
reasons or other political reasons. So, what do

1455
00:50:20,875 --> 00:50:21,994
you guys think? Is that something that will

1456
00:50:21,994 --> 00:50:24,335
happen or is it just a complete feigned,

1457
00:50:25,835 --> 00:50:26,880
you know, feigned?

1458
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:29,119
So here's the thing. If you say this

1459
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:30,960
from the White House, then the sheriffs are

1460
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:32,900
gonna get active doing it.

1461
00:50:33,359 --> 00:50:35,119
And you can't stop them from doing it

1462
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:37,279
because they're they would be deporting people who

1463
00:50:37,279 --> 00:50:38,179
are here illegally.

1464
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,534
I I will say, Gil, I agree entirely

1465
00:50:41,534 --> 00:50:43,375
with Kit that these are but not policies.

1466
00:50:43,375 --> 00:50:44,114
They're excuses.

1467
00:50:44,494 --> 00:50:46,894
Mhmm. And if immigration doesn't work, they're planning

1468
00:50:46,894 --> 00:50:49,295
on using election fraud. So Trump has made

1469
00:50:49,295 --> 00:50:51,534
a really big deal about using digital IDs

1470
00:50:51,534 --> 00:50:52,590
for election fraud.

1471
00:50:53,150 --> 00:50:54,910
But if you look at many of these

1472
00:50:54,910 --> 00:50:56,450
policies as excuses

1473
00:50:57,150 --> 00:50:59,710
and including war, the goal is to control

1474
00:50:59,710 --> 00:51:01,730
the domestic poll you know, population.

1475
00:51:02,510 --> 00:51:04,269
You know, not to fight with the Russian

1476
00:51:04,269 --> 00:51:06,269
population, but to control the you know, you

1477
00:51:06,269 --> 00:51:08,210
need an excuse to control the domestic,

1478
00:51:08,775 --> 00:51:09,275
population.

1479
00:51:09,894 --> 00:51:12,054
I don't know if anybody saw the the

1480
00:51:12,054 --> 00:51:14,474
interview with Joe Rogan and Mark Andresen,

1481
00:51:15,734 --> 00:51:18,074
which was very much designed to,

1482
00:51:18,855 --> 00:51:21,275
make Silicon Valley look like your friend.

1483
00:51:22,429 --> 00:51:22,829
But,

1484
00:51:23,230 --> 00:51:25,069
one of the things I I was floor

1485
00:51:25,150 --> 00:51:26,750
I was on the floor. Joe Reagan said

1486
00:51:26,909 --> 00:51:29,309
Rogan said, yes. You know, we absolutely need

1487
00:51:29,309 --> 00:51:31,889
AI to govern because it's all too complicated

1488
00:51:32,029 --> 00:51:34,905
for humans to govern. And you just you

1489
00:51:34,905 --> 00:51:36,684
said, I can't believe I'm hearing this.

1490
00:51:37,385 --> 00:51:39,144
So no wonder he gets paid so much

1491
00:51:39,144 --> 00:51:39,644
money.

1492
00:51:39,945 --> 00:51:42,684
Yeah. He I I like the phrase, you

1493
00:51:42,905 --> 00:51:44,905
know, back in March of 2020, I was

1494
00:51:44,905 --> 00:51:46,045
in Spiro Sclerosis

1495
00:51:46,585 --> 00:51:48,905
now defunct program, and I mentioned that COVID

1496
00:51:48,905 --> 00:51:51,839
was all about bringing in global algocracy or

1497
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:54,339
rule by algorithm, and now you have Rogan,

1498
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:56,719
and Tic Tac guys saying, let's bring in

1499
00:51:56,719 --> 00:51:59,519
algocracy rule by AI. And and just today,

1500
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:01,039
I think, you know, off Guardian has done

1501
00:52:01,039 --> 00:52:02,960
a great job with this where then he

1502
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:04,420
ran court in in in Canada.

1503
00:52:04,815 --> 00:52:06,494
His thesis was that COVID was sort of

1504
00:52:06,494 --> 00:52:06,994
a,

1505
00:52:07,695 --> 00:52:10,014
what did he say, like a simulation for

1506
00:52:10,014 --> 00:52:11,554
for war where you had rationing,

1507
00:52:12,014 --> 00:52:12,994
end of free speech,

1508
00:52:13,295 --> 00:52:16,574
almost martial law. This today, in South Korea,

1509
00:52:16,574 --> 00:52:17,635
the president declared

1510
00:52:18,014 --> 00:52:20,880
martial law, and the article actually said he

1511
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,519
didn't really specify anything. He's like North something

1512
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:26,000
North Korea. So Communist. He's like and he

1513
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,159
he actually said for for freedom and to

1514
00:52:28,159 --> 00:52:30,079
protect the constitution. So sort of like war

1515
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:31,799
is peace. You know, freedom is dictatorship. So

1516
00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:34,445
Okay. Martial law, and it's it's the same.

1517
00:52:34,445 --> 00:52:36,625
They just use these different pretext of pandemic,

1518
00:52:36,925 --> 00:52:37,425
climate,

1519
00:52:37,804 --> 00:52:40,925
war to carry out the same measures of

1520
00:52:40,925 --> 00:52:42,385
rationing. Well, they they

1521
00:52:43,244 --> 00:52:44,525
they call it all war in the end.

1522
00:52:44,525 --> 00:52:46,364
They it wasn't a pandemic. It was the

1523
00:52:46,364 --> 00:52:47,965
war on COVID. And it's not it's not

1524
00:52:47,965 --> 00:52:49,889
the climate change. It's the the war on

1525
00:52:49,889 --> 00:52:51,730
climate change. Right. The war on drugs. The

1526
00:52:51,730 --> 00:52:53,730
war on terrorism is always about putting people

1527
00:52:53,730 --> 00:52:54,710
on a war footing.

1528
00:52:55,409 --> 00:52:57,010
Right. Right. I mean and and the the

1529
00:52:57,010 --> 00:52:58,609
central point here, and that's a great thing

1530
00:52:58,609 --> 00:53:00,289
to bring up here in regard to how

1531
00:53:00,289 --> 00:53:01,109
the rationalization,

1532
00:53:01,489 --> 00:53:02,804
you know, whatever it is. The I think

1533
00:53:02,804 --> 00:53:04,164
the and I think SD was covering this

1534
00:53:04,164 --> 00:53:06,244
morning. I think they're even referencing, like, going

1535
00:53:06,324 --> 00:53:08,244
stopping fake news. Like, this is all about

1536
00:53:08,244 --> 00:53:10,664
fighting the information war, you know, and literally

1537
00:53:10,724 --> 00:53:13,525
using real world kinetic, like, martial law. And

1538
00:53:13,525 --> 00:53:14,885
so the point is this is what we

1539
00:53:14,885 --> 00:53:17,409
see, hopefully, as an American perspective, that this

1540
00:53:17,409 --> 00:53:19,250
is what's coming. Right? This is what is

1541
00:53:19,250 --> 00:53:21,409
literally the rationale to get us in that

1542
00:53:21,409 --> 00:53:23,409
position even if you think that position will

1543
00:53:23,409 --> 00:53:25,010
help fight the problem. You know, it's like

1544
00:53:25,010 --> 00:53:27,090
everything else. The Patriot Act, these things never

1545
00:53:27,090 --> 00:53:28,929
go away. Right? And the point I was

1546
00:53:28,929 --> 00:53:30,130
making this morning on a wake up is

1547
00:53:30,130 --> 00:53:31,329
even if you think this is the right

1548
00:53:31,329 --> 00:53:32,204
move and even if they

1549
00:53:32,844 --> 00:53:34,445
have the best of intentions, what happens if

1550
00:53:34,445 --> 00:53:36,045
3 weeks in, Trump has a heart attack

1551
00:53:36,045 --> 00:53:38,465
and then advance or whatever? Somebody takes power

1552
00:53:38,605 --> 00:53:40,204
who does wanna use it that way. You

1553
00:53:40,204 --> 00:53:41,885
know, it it I think that is Trump.

1554
00:53:41,885 --> 00:53:43,565
But either way, the point is anybody could

1555
00:53:43,565 --> 00:53:44,785
use this to effectively

1556
00:53:45,325 --> 00:53:47,244
remove your rights. You know? And so I

1557
00:53:47,460 --> 00:53:50,339
I'll go ahead. Post 911 America has been

1558
00:53:50,339 --> 00:53:53,719
about building the dictator's toolkit for the incoming

1559
00:53:53,780 --> 00:53:54,280
administration

1560
00:53:54,659 --> 00:53:57,159
regardless of what party affiliation

1561
00:53:57,539 --> 00:53:59,719
may be in power at any given moment.

1562
00:54:00,099 --> 00:54:00,599
And,

1563
00:54:00,900 --> 00:54:04,094
it that's that's been going on unceasingly. Ceasingly.

1564
00:54:05,114 --> 00:54:08,335
And it's amazing how people haven't necessarily

1565
00:54:08,715 --> 00:54:10,795
put 2 and 2 together on that and

1566
00:54:10,795 --> 00:54:13,295
made the connection that holy crap.

1567
00:54:13,675 --> 00:54:15,614
It really could be

1568
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,700
literally anyone, even a cartoon character

1569
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,460
like Donald Trump,

1570
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:23,940
and that's how

1571
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:28,160
the, you know, governance is done. The in

1572
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,695
terms of continuity of government, there's a number

1573
00:54:30,695 --> 00:54:32,875
of different ways that you can apply it

1574
00:54:33,094 --> 00:54:34,875
and powers of the executive,

1575
00:54:35,894 --> 00:54:37,974
are one of the aspects that are least

1576
00:54:37,974 --> 00:54:40,454
discussed in terms of how this operation is

1577
00:54:40,454 --> 00:54:40,954
conducted.

1578
00:54:42,380 --> 00:54:44,860
Yeah. The executive order dynamic is ups it's

1579
00:54:44,860 --> 00:54:47,599
obscene, and and it's this this complete circumvention.

1580
00:54:47,980 --> 00:54:49,260
And I argue that's how a lot of

1581
00:54:49,260 --> 00:54:50,700
this stuff is actually gonna come to pass

1582
00:54:50,700 --> 00:54:51,980
as we were talking about this morning. Right?

1583
00:54:51,980 --> 00:54:53,980
Well, Fox News, was we were referencing that

1584
00:54:53,980 --> 00:54:55,660
joke this morning where it literally opens their

1585
00:54:55,660 --> 00:54:56,780
show the other day by saying, man, I

1586
00:54:56,780 --> 00:54:58,375
can't wait for for Trump to just executive

1587
00:54:58,514 --> 00:55:00,114
order his way through this. I was like

1588
00:55:00,275 --> 00:55:02,194
Yes. How depressing is a statement like that,

1589
00:55:02,194 --> 00:55:04,034
you know? When when they control every aspect

1590
00:55:04,034 --> 00:55:05,014
of the current situation.

1591
00:55:05,315 --> 00:55:07,474
It's it's it's crazy. But so, let's talk

1592
00:55:07,474 --> 00:55:08,994
about some of the more specifics like under

1593
00:55:08,994 --> 00:55:09,815
the crime dynamic.

1594
00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:12,539
Vowing to invest in hiring and retaining police

1595
00:55:12,539 --> 00:55:14,619
officers and specifically as Derek was talking about

1596
00:55:14,619 --> 00:55:15,119
earlier,

1597
00:55:15,500 --> 00:55:17,839
to increase their protections from legal liability

1598
00:55:18,380 --> 00:55:20,219
and and then and rolling out the stop

1599
00:55:20,219 --> 00:55:22,139
and frisk dynamic under a guise of getting

1600
00:55:22,139 --> 00:55:23,039
illegal immigrants,

1601
00:55:23,675 --> 00:55:25,914
deploying federal troops including the National Guard. So

1602
00:55:25,914 --> 00:55:27,675
let's be clear. You've he mentioned this about

1603
00:55:27,675 --> 00:55:29,835
foreign troops coming home. So we're in posse

1604
00:55:29,835 --> 00:55:30,335
comatatus

1605
00:55:30,635 --> 00:55:33,114
level here to restore law and order when

1606
00:55:33,114 --> 00:55:36,279
local officers refuse to act, which is important

1607
00:55:36,279 --> 00:55:38,199
because that's usually where you start to see

1608
00:55:38,199 --> 00:55:40,440
the breakdown. Right? Where the where the enforcement

1609
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:41,719
arm starts going, you know what? We're not

1610
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:43,480
gonna force you broken laws. Well, now he's

1611
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,319
trying to set an authoritarian level to go,

1612
00:55:45,319 --> 00:55:46,599
well, we'll just come right over the top

1613
00:55:46,599 --> 00:55:47,474
of that or

1614
00:55:47,875 --> 00:55:49,954
death penalty for drug dealers and drug cartels.

1615
00:55:49,954 --> 00:55:52,035
I mean, that's, the Philippines dynamic. Right? I

1616
00:55:52,035 --> 00:55:54,195
mean, these are all very alarming even if

1617
00:55:54,195 --> 00:55:55,715
you're going after bad guys in your mind.

1618
00:55:55,715 --> 00:55:57,875
So anybody wanna talk about any of those

1619
00:55:57,875 --> 00:55:59,414
specifics of the crime aspect?

1620
00:56:00,130 --> 00:56:02,929
The protection from from liability is interesting. It

1621
00:56:02,929 --> 00:56:05,429
it reminds me of, a long time ago,

1622
00:56:05,730 --> 00:56:07,170
one of the a good documentary on the

1623
00:56:07,170 --> 00:56:08,769
very stock contract is all called Hot Coffee.

1624
00:56:08,769 --> 00:56:09,809
I don't know if you've ever heard of

1625
00:56:09,809 --> 00:56:11,030
it. It's wonderful.

1626
00:56:11,570 --> 00:56:12,550
Wonderful documentary.

1627
00:56:13,105 --> 00:56:15,285
It's about, the case with this,

1628
00:56:15,824 --> 00:56:18,465
old woman spilled McDonald's coffee in her lap,

1629
00:56:18,465 --> 00:56:19,605
burnt herself terribly.

1630
00:56:20,385 --> 00:56:22,864
And the propaganda that out when she sued

1631
00:56:22,864 --> 00:56:25,199
McDonald's, there was this massive propaganda push.

1632
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,400
And people were talking about, well, the frivolous

1633
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,159
lawsuits bringing up, but suing people because your

1634
00:56:30,159 --> 00:56:31,460
copy is too hard. It's ridiculous.

1635
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,599
What we need is massive reform of the

1636
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,480
of a, massive tort reform to stop people

1637
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,039
being able to bring lawsuits against companies so

1638
00:56:39,039 --> 00:56:39,494
easily.

1639
00:56:40,055 --> 00:56:42,055
And that's essentially what happened. It I mean,

1640
00:56:42,055 --> 00:56:44,135
it was a probably justifiable case, but she

1641
00:56:44,135 --> 00:56:47,015
had terrible burns. But what happened is companies

1642
00:56:47,015 --> 00:56:49,335
got legal protection out of it. So you

1643
00:56:49,335 --> 00:56:50,235
can see

1644
00:56:51,015 --> 00:56:51,835
how much,

1645
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:54,329
like, a few lawsuits against police,

1646
00:56:55,590 --> 00:56:57,829
for doing their job hit the headlines. And

1647
00:56:57,829 --> 00:56:59,769
we've seen that over the last few years.

1648
00:57:00,070 --> 00:57:02,389
This guy sued the police because they broke

1649
00:57:02,389 --> 00:57:04,550
his wristwatch restraining him or something, and then

1650
00:57:04,550 --> 00:57:05,449
he gets $1,000,000

1651
00:57:05,829 --> 00:57:07,664
out of it or something ridiculous like that.

1652
00:57:09,025 --> 00:57:11,105
They will use that as justification. They will

1653
00:57:11,105 --> 00:57:12,804
created it to use it as justification.

1654
00:57:13,505 --> 00:57:15,265
They're gonna say, well, our our guys now,

1655
00:57:15,265 --> 00:57:17,265
because of black lives matter, because of of

1656
00:57:17,265 --> 00:57:19,505
antifa or whatever, can't do their job properly

1657
00:57:19,505 --> 00:57:21,445
without being sued, and it's not fair.

1658
00:57:22,239 --> 00:57:23,460
That will be their argument.

1659
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,559
I was I would be shocked if that

1660
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:27,380
didn't happen.

1661
00:57:28,559 --> 00:57:30,400
Yeah. It's crazy to me that we get

1662
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:31,920
to a position where I mean, look. It's

1663
00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:34,019
obvious to anybody objective that there are examples

1664
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:35,619
like that where there is an unjustifiable

1665
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:37,704
attack on or going after them for something

1666
00:57:37,704 --> 00:57:39,784
they didn't do unintentionally or didn't even do.

1667
00:57:39,784 --> 00:57:41,304
But it's incredible to me that we on

1668
00:57:41,304 --> 00:57:42,684
the side of more protection

1669
00:57:43,065 --> 00:57:44,505
when the argument should be, well, we should

1670
00:57:44,505 --> 00:57:46,184
be holding them to the highest standard, the

1671
00:57:46,184 --> 00:57:48,184
higher standard. Right? We should be making sure

1672
00:57:48,184 --> 00:57:49,864
that they are held to that screw. Like,

1673
00:57:49,864 --> 00:57:51,464
that just makes more sense for somebody who

1674
00:57:51,464 --> 00:57:52,779
is act. It's it's I guess, in my

1675
00:57:52,779 --> 00:57:53,980
mind, it's the same as, like, the US

1676
00:57:53,980 --> 00:57:56,699
government, the global foreign policy dynamic where they

1677
00:57:56,699 --> 00:57:58,619
go, well, Russia's using cluster bombs so we're

1678
00:57:58,619 --> 00:58:00,299
gonna give our guys cluster bombs or that's

1679
00:58:00,299 --> 00:58:01,659
not even the way it actually went down.

1680
00:58:01,659 --> 00:58:03,260
But the argument being, well, then you're just

1681
00:58:03,260 --> 00:58:05,260
the same. It's rationalizing we're gonna do the

1682
00:58:05,260 --> 00:58:06,699
same thing back. It's the same kind of

1683
00:58:06,699 --> 00:58:08,195
thing we're talking about that they should be

1684
00:58:08,195 --> 00:58:09,635
held to a much higher standard and I'm

1685
00:58:09,635 --> 00:58:10,934
I'm with you. I think this is about

1686
00:58:11,155 --> 00:58:13,074
creating a situation where there is no ability

1687
00:58:13,074 --> 00:58:14,695
to go after the enforcer,

1688
00:58:15,074 --> 00:58:16,275
you know. And and it's an it's an

1689
00:58:16,275 --> 00:58:18,594
alarming step in the direction more so of

1690
00:58:18,594 --> 00:58:21,449
an authoritarian control structure. Add to that the

1691
00:58:21,449 --> 00:58:23,050
digital aspect, you know, which I think is

1692
00:58:23,050 --> 00:58:25,070
where all this goes and then it's insurmountable.

1693
00:58:26,170 --> 00:58:28,250
But Just remember you, though, you you have

1694
00:58:28,250 --> 00:58:31,289
had you have cities all across America where,

1695
00:58:31,289 --> 00:58:33,929
essentially, there is no or very little law

1696
00:58:33,929 --> 00:58:35,949
enforcement, and you've gutted the police,

1697
00:58:36,764 --> 00:58:39,244
and you put in source prosecutors who won't

1698
00:58:39,244 --> 00:58:40,304
prosecute crime.

1699
00:58:40,764 --> 00:58:43,105
And you do have a serious crime problem

1700
00:58:43,164 --> 00:58:43,984
because you've

1701
00:58:44,284 --> 00:58:47,164
you've you've basically gutted your enforcement. And that

1702
00:58:47,164 --> 00:58:49,440
is a problem in cities. And it's a

1703
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,599
big, big problem for the real estate community

1704
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:53,300
in those cities. And remember,

1705
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:55,599
you know, Trump is somebody who understands and

1706
00:58:55,599 --> 00:58:57,219
sympathizes with real estate.

1707
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:00,559
I think that's an important point people tend

1708
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,784
to overlook is that his he's very big

1709
00:59:02,784 --> 00:59:04,385
business. Right? He's very much I mean, even

1710
00:59:04,385 --> 00:59:06,224
in the context of, like, removing regulations, he

1711
00:59:06,224 --> 00:59:07,265
always tries to frame it in a way

1712
00:59:07,265 --> 00:59:09,344
that it's, like, pro freedom. And there is

1713
00:59:09,344 --> 00:59:10,864
a very clear argument to be made within

1714
00:59:10,864 --> 00:59:13,105
that, but it's a dangerous level when you're

1715
00:59:13,105 --> 00:59:13,605
emboldening

1716
00:59:13,905 --> 00:59:16,569
the corporate side while moving regulations. I'm I'm

1717
00:59:16,569 --> 00:59:18,170
I'm if you're gonna move regulations, then it

1718
00:59:18,170 --> 00:59:20,089
should be not emboldening at the same time.

1719
00:59:20,089 --> 00:59:21,609
Like, they should be we're like, that's the

1720
00:59:21,609 --> 00:59:23,530
point about suing and so on. So I

1721
00:59:23,530 --> 00:59:25,130
wanna bring up a question. I wanna go

1722
00:59:25,130 --> 00:59:27,469
back to Howard Lutkin talking about the fact

1723
00:59:27,849 --> 00:59:29,644
that the US has $500,000,000,000,000

1724
00:59:30,425 --> 00:59:32,684
worth of real estate and minerals.

1725
00:59:33,305 --> 00:59:36,105
We know under Trump in 2018, the United

1726
00:59:36,105 --> 00:59:38,525
Geological Survey started to survey

1727
00:59:39,305 --> 00:59:41,565
all the mineral resources in the country

1728
00:59:41,945 --> 00:59:44,670
starting at the ground level going down 3,000

1729
00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:45,170
feet,

1730
00:59:45,550 --> 00:59:48,190
including finding the rare earth mineral minerals that

1731
00:59:48,190 --> 00:59:50,530
would replace what has been coming from China.

1732
00:59:51,309 --> 00:59:52,369
So there is

1733
00:59:52,750 --> 00:59:55,809
an enormous effort to understand what the resources

1734
00:59:55,949 --> 00:59:57,329
are within North America

1735
00:59:58,045 --> 00:59:59,885
and see if you can get more of

1736
00:59:59,885 --> 01:00:01,565
what you need. We know that Trump has

1737
01:00:01,565 --> 01:00:02,784
said he wants to

1738
01:00:03,324 --> 01:00:04,945
drill oil aggressively.

1739
01:00:06,204 --> 01:00:06,525
And,

1740
01:00:07,164 --> 01:00:09,485
and many people don't realize around the world

1741
01:00:09,485 --> 01:00:12,125
that federal government and the states combined owe

1742
01:00:12,125 --> 01:00:14,199
a huge portion of the land,

1743
01:00:14,579 --> 01:00:16,900
particularly in certain states like Alaska. I think

1744
01:00:16,900 --> 01:00:19,219
it's 70% of the land in Alaska. Which

1745
01:00:19,219 --> 01:00:22,019
is entirely unconstitutional, by the way. Right. We

1746
01:00:22,019 --> 01:00:24,519
know 2 things on some of the Bitcoin

1747
01:00:24,579 --> 01:00:25,480
trial balloons.

1748
01:00:26,195 --> 01:00:28,375
They proposed that you could sell your Bitcoin

1749
01:00:28,434 --> 01:00:28,934
secretly,

1750
01:00:29,474 --> 01:00:31,635
and if you invested in real estate, you

1751
01:00:31,635 --> 01:00:32,135
could,

1752
01:00:32,675 --> 01:00:34,135
you could do it tax free.

1753
01:00:34,675 --> 01:00:36,775
So, basically, proposing a 1031

1754
01:00:37,155 --> 01:00:37,655
swap

1755
01:00:38,130 --> 01:00:39,889
so that, you know, if I bought Bitcoin

1756
01:00:39,889 --> 01:00:41,569
at a penny and I sell it, you

1757
01:00:41,569 --> 01:00:43,650
know, with a government buying program at a

1758
01:00:43,650 --> 01:00:44,630
very high price,

1759
01:00:45,089 --> 01:00:46,849
then I can keep it secret and I

1760
01:00:46,849 --> 01:00:48,529
can convert if I put it in the

1761
01:00:48,529 --> 01:00:51,170
right kind of real estate, no taxes, so

1762
01:00:51,170 --> 01:00:51,989
tax free.

1763
01:00:52,695 --> 01:00:55,114
The guy who just got appointed or nominated

1764
01:00:55,255 --> 01:00:57,974
to the secretary of HUD position is someone

1765
01:00:57,974 --> 01:01:00,394
with a long deep history in opportunity

1766
01:01:00,695 --> 01:01:03,434
zones. Now does everybody know what an opportunity

1767
01:01:03,655 --> 01:01:04,469
zone is?

1768
01:01:04,949 --> 01:01:06,489
It's a it's a tax,

1769
01:01:08,070 --> 01:01:09,609
it's a tax plan

1770
01:01:10,230 --> 01:01:12,550
that was really created in response to the

1771
01:01:12,550 --> 01:01:15,349
tech, the tech industry who had huge capital

1772
01:01:15,349 --> 01:01:17,014
gains on their stock. And

1773
01:01:17,474 --> 01:01:20,194
basically, if you sell stock or sell any

1774
01:01:20,194 --> 01:01:21,815
investment and roll it into

1775
01:01:22,434 --> 01:01:25,315
real estate or business in an opportunity zone,

1776
01:01:25,315 --> 01:01:27,315
you can roll it in tax free. And

1777
01:01:27,315 --> 01:01:29,170
if you leave it in long enough, you're

1778
01:01:29,170 --> 01:01:31,489
tax free forever. So you've avoided all your

1779
01:01:31,489 --> 01:01:32,789
capital gains taxes.

1780
01:01:33,170 --> 01:01:35,570
So now we've got Howard Lutkin licking his

1781
01:01:35,570 --> 01:01:36,710
chops over $500,000,000,000,000

1782
01:01:37,409 --> 01:01:38,390
of real estate.

1783
01:01:38,929 --> 01:01:39,429
RFK

1784
01:01:39,730 --> 01:01:41,650
proposing that people be able to get out

1785
01:01:41,650 --> 01:01:44,150
of Bitcoin at a high tax free

1786
01:01:44,565 --> 01:01:45,844
as long as they put their money in

1787
01:01:45,844 --> 01:01:47,464
real estate. And now we got an opportunity

1788
01:01:47,764 --> 01:01:49,464
zone guy over at at

1789
01:01:49,925 --> 01:01:50,425
HUD.

1790
01:01:51,125 --> 01:01:52,964
I don't know if you remember this, but,

1791
01:01:53,284 --> 01:01:57,065
during the during the riots, during COVID,

1792
01:01:57,750 --> 01:01:59,750
we did an analysis of where all the

1793
01:01:59,750 --> 01:02:02,489
riots were, and they were very much contiguous

1794
01:02:02,550 --> 01:02:04,309
to where the New York or where the

1795
01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:07,750
federal offices were, but also very contiguous to

1796
01:02:07,750 --> 01:02:08,889
opportunity zones.

1797
01:02:09,269 --> 01:02:10,630
So if you look at where the riots

1798
01:02:10,630 --> 01:02:11,449
were in Minneapolis,

1799
01:02:12,125 --> 01:02:13,664
you know, it was it was basically

1800
01:02:14,204 --> 01:02:15,964
a way of clearing all the real estate

1801
01:02:15,964 --> 01:02:17,164
and getting a hold of all the real

1802
01:02:17,164 --> 01:02:19,025
estate at the base of a big opportunity

1803
01:02:19,085 --> 01:02:20,464
zone in downtown Minneapolis.

1804
01:02:21,484 --> 01:02:21,984
So,

1805
01:02:22,684 --> 01:02:24,464
you know, I go back to the plunder

1806
01:02:24,525 --> 01:02:27,025
opportunity here. If you are going to,

1807
01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:29,650
you know, take the US out of its

1808
01:02:29,650 --> 01:02:32,130
lead position or even break it up, because

1809
01:02:32,130 --> 01:02:33,489
we know there are people who would love

1810
01:02:33,489 --> 01:02:35,250
to break it up. You know, the big

1811
01:02:35,250 --> 01:02:37,170
question is who gets all the assets and

1812
01:02:37,170 --> 01:02:39,250
how are you gonna reposition all the assets?

1813
01:02:39,250 --> 01:02:41,730
Because the assets on the US balance sheet

1814
01:02:41,730 --> 01:02:42,469
are extraordinary.

1815
01:02:44,144 --> 01:02:46,324
Probably makes a more Freedom City dynamic.

1816
01:02:46,785 --> 01:02:48,785
Just, you know, half joking, but that's where

1817
01:02:48,785 --> 01:02:50,065
this seems to be going. Right? This is

1818
01:02:50,065 --> 01:02:51,905
a kind of sidestep. And, again, same kind

1819
01:02:51,905 --> 01:02:53,425
of point in general that I'm seeing everywhere

1820
01:02:53,425 --> 01:02:55,364
under our guise of, you know, some

1821
01:02:55,789 --> 01:02:58,030
breaking away from the system dynamic when really

1822
01:02:58,030 --> 01:02:58,849
it's just kind

1823
01:02:59,150 --> 01:03:01,230
of beginning the new step. I mean, I'm

1824
01:03:01,230 --> 01:03:03,550
seeing this technocracy rise all over the place.

1825
01:03:03,550 --> 01:03:04,829
There's a lot of that happening right now

1826
01:03:04,829 --> 01:03:06,349
with Trump's administration. I mean, one point that

1827
01:03:06,349 --> 01:03:07,994
I wanted to talk about before we don't

1828
01:03:07,994 --> 01:03:09,034
know how much talk we had time in

1829
01:03:09,034 --> 01:03:11,375
general today, but was is about this overlapping

1830
01:03:11,434 --> 01:03:13,134
dynamic of his ethics pledge,

1831
01:03:13,514 --> 01:03:15,434
the transition pledge, the have you guys been

1832
01:03:15,434 --> 01:03:17,194
seeing that conversation? I mean, there's very much

1833
01:03:17,194 --> 01:03:18,714
a policy dynamic there, and that I mean,

1834
01:03:18,714 --> 01:03:20,909
that does overlap with the foreign policy point.

1835
01:03:21,069 --> 01:03:22,429
Well, first, since we are on the foreign

1836
01:03:22,429 --> 01:03:24,690
policy overlap, I wanted since you mentioned China,

1837
01:03:24,989 --> 01:03:26,109
it is one of the things you're discussing

1838
01:03:26,109 --> 01:03:27,670
about taking a hard line stance on China.

1839
01:03:27,670 --> 01:03:28,909
And I do think that has to do

1840
01:03:28,909 --> 01:03:31,089
with the overlap of the rare earth mineral

1841
01:03:31,150 --> 01:03:34,474
foreign policy issue. But for restrictions on Chinese

1842
01:03:34,474 --> 01:03:35,135
own infrastructure

1843
01:03:35,594 --> 01:03:36,875
and so on, I think those are interesting

1844
01:03:36,875 --> 01:03:38,094
points in there. But

1845
01:03:38,394 --> 01:03:40,235
for me, the overlap of this And again,

1846
01:03:40,235 --> 01:03:42,074
this point has to do with anybody. It

1847
01:03:42,074 --> 01:03:44,715
doesn't matter if foreign entity is this timing

1848
01:03:44,715 --> 01:03:46,875
right now where Trump hasn't signed the ethics

1849
01:03:46,875 --> 01:03:47,375
pledges

1850
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,039
Or rather, it's ethics and a transparency pledge,

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01:03:50,039 --> 01:03:52,199
something he signed into law more so in

1852
01:03:52,199 --> 01:03:54,279
2020 that he did last time as well.

1853
01:03:54,279 --> 01:03:56,359
But it it leaves this opening gap where

1854
01:03:56,359 --> 01:03:58,219
there's no cap on donations.

1855
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,279
There and you don't have to divulge from

1856
01:04:00,279 --> 01:04:02,224
where those donations are coming from. You don't

1857
01:04:02,224 --> 01:04:03,824
have to divulge your conflicts of interest. And

1858
01:04:03,824 --> 01:04:05,905
so it's So that's the financing of the

1859
01:04:05,905 --> 01:04:06,965
transition. Correct?

1860
01:04:07,265 --> 01:04:09,184
But both. Yes. So that opens up all

1861
01:04:09,184 --> 01:04:10,864
the funding for the offices for all these

1862
01:04:10,864 --> 01:04:12,465
different things. And so that's one of the

1863
01:04:12,465 --> 01:04:14,385
most alarming points is they're pushing back on

1864
01:04:14,385 --> 01:04:15,905
that in general saying we don't need it.

1865
01:04:15,905 --> 01:04:17,045
We're gonna be a fully

1866
01:04:17,369 --> 01:04:19,849
self sufficient organization. You know? And they're using

1867
01:04:19,849 --> 01:04:21,369
their own bot. They're walking out of Mar

1868
01:04:21,369 --> 01:04:23,769
a Lago. They're not using government emails and

1869
01:04:23,769 --> 01:04:25,130
computers. And, I mean, part of that to

1870
01:04:25,130 --> 01:04:26,889
me is, like, I get it, but I'm

1871
01:04:26,889 --> 01:04:28,809
very concerned. So in in conjunction with the

1872
01:04:28,809 --> 01:04:30,489
idea that you're not divulging where your money

1873
01:04:30,489 --> 01:04:32,085
is coming from, so you have no caps,

1874
01:04:32,644 --> 01:04:34,885
Trillions could be flowing in from Israel, China.

1875
01:04:34,885 --> 01:04:36,964
We'd have no idea. No conflicts of interest

1876
01:04:36,964 --> 01:04:39,045
divulged. And then they're working in this own

1877
01:04:39,204 --> 01:04:41,284
their own area is self sufficient, not taking

1878
01:04:41,284 --> 01:04:42,885
money from the government. And so my point

1879
01:04:42,885 --> 01:04:44,244
is there's this gap right now where that's

1880
01:04:44,244 --> 01:04:46,505
happening. They're already getting access to certain information.

1881
01:04:46,820 --> 01:04:48,260
I find it to be really alarming, and

1882
01:04:48,260 --> 01:04:49,780
I think that speaks to a full point.

1883
01:04:49,780 --> 01:04:51,139
The one thing I will say is if

1884
01:04:51,139 --> 01:04:52,440
I was running a transition,

1885
01:04:53,780 --> 01:04:56,440
presidential transition, I would do the same thing.

1886
01:04:57,059 --> 01:04:58,820
So I I can see why it feels

1887
01:04:58,820 --> 01:05:01,075
and looks alarming. I think if they don't

1888
01:05:01,075 --> 01:05:04,515
have ethical standards and and full financial disclosure

1889
01:05:04,515 --> 01:05:05,575
when they go in,

1890
01:05:06,035 --> 01:05:08,614
you know, that will be very alarming. Mhmm.

1891
01:05:08,994 --> 01:05:10,994
I do wanna bring up, I think the

1892
01:05:10,994 --> 01:05:13,255
number 1 or one of the most important

1893
01:05:13,315 --> 01:05:14,295
policy goals

1894
01:05:14,730 --> 01:05:16,190
right now that's desired

1895
01:05:18,250 --> 01:05:19,550
is the Federal Reserve

1896
01:05:19,849 --> 01:05:22,010
has a big problem, and that problem is

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01:05:22,010 --> 01:05:23,230
called the US Constitution.

1898
01:05:24,489 --> 01:05:26,110
And as long as the constitution

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exists, they have,

1900
01:05:28,125 --> 01:05:29,965
you know, the the Fed is a creature

1901
01:05:29,965 --> 01:05:32,445
of Congress. Congress created them. Congress can cancel

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01:05:32,445 --> 01:05:32,945
them.

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01:05:33,485 --> 01:05:34,784
And they're not independent.

1904
01:05:35,324 --> 01:05:36,065
And so,

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01:05:37,164 --> 01:05:38,925
if they're going to move forward with a

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01:05:38,925 --> 01:05:41,005
control grid, they need to find a way

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01:05:41,005 --> 01:05:42,304
to get rid of the constitution

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01:05:42,764 --> 01:05:43,264
or

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01:05:43,699 --> 01:05:45,219
get free of the con or at least

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the Federal Reserve to get free of the

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01:05:46,819 --> 01:05:47,319
constitution.

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01:05:48,179 --> 01:05:51,139
And, how are they gonna do that? And

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and that's one of the things absolutely to

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01:05:53,460 --> 01:05:54,679
watch in this administration.

1915
01:05:55,460 --> 01:05:56,900
One way they can help get rid of

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the constitution

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01:05:57,859 --> 01:06:00,335
is to basically be able to control government

1918
01:06:00,394 --> 01:06:01,934
payment systems and operations.

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01:06:02,635 --> 01:06:04,394
And that's why if you're Doge and you

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01:06:04,394 --> 01:06:06,315
get rid of the civil service and replace

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01:06:06,315 --> 01:06:07,614
it with tech contractors,

1922
01:06:08,315 --> 01:06:08,974
you know,

1923
01:06:09,355 --> 01:06:11,434
ba bing, that's how you do it. You

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01:06:11,514 --> 01:06:13,215
you've now got control through

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01:06:13,610 --> 01:06:16,170
basically, the intelligence agencies in the central bank,

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01:06:16,170 --> 01:06:16,670
and

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01:06:17,289 --> 01:06:20,030
and congress no longer controls government operations.

1928
01:06:22,650 --> 01:06:24,650
I can't help but, again, the overlap of

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the the the technocratic

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01:06:26,250 --> 01:06:27,929
side of that. Right? Like, all these different

1931
01:06:27,929 --> 01:06:29,744
overlaps. And I I mean, same, even going

1932
01:06:29,744 --> 01:06:31,045
back to the same point, like, the

1933
01:06:31,424 --> 01:06:33,904
the influence of a of another entity in

1934
01:06:33,904 --> 01:06:35,184
all of this is something that stands out

1935
01:06:35,184 --> 01:06:36,224
to me more than anything. I mean, it's

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01:06:36,224 --> 01:06:38,784
obvious corruption taking place, but to me, I

1937
01:06:38,784 --> 01:06:40,484
can't stop seeing how that intertwines.

1938
01:06:40,784 --> 01:06:42,484
Right? I mean, is that is that something

1939
01:06:43,539 --> 01:06:45,859
is that more you Catherine directly, do you

1940
01:06:45,859 --> 01:06:47,639
think that's something that is more of a

1941
01:06:47,859 --> 01:06:49,619
oversized concern, or do you think that's a

1942
01:06:49,619 --> 01:06:51,960
right on the surface No. I and and

1943
01:06:52,019 --> 01:06:53,960
here's the thing. The you know,

1944
01:06:54,339 --> 01:06:56,980
what happens over time is power cruise the

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01:06:56,980 --> 01:06:57,480
guy

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01:06:57,894 --> 01:07:00,454
who sort of controls the infrastructure and handles

1947
01:07:00,454 --> 01:07:01,434
things operationally.

1948
01:07:02,215 --> 01:07:03,894
So the way the US got the power

1949
01:07:03,894 --> 01:07:06,535
to do the sanctions is literally we evolve

1950
01:07:06,535 --> 01:07:07,195
the Internet

1951
01:07:07,575 --> 01:07:09,575
and the hardware that carried the Internet to

1952
01:07:09,575 --> 01:07:10,875
the point where 99%

1953
01:07:11,550 --> 01:07:13,570
of digital communications and transactions

1954
01:07:14,429 --> 01:07:16,190
went through the US in a way that

1955
01:07:16,190 --> 01:07:18,929
the US could assert legal and financial

1956
01:07:19,390 --> 01:07:20,929
and operational jurisdiction.

1957
01:07:21,630 --> 01:07:23,550
You know? And so if you end up

1958
01:07:23,550 --> 01:07:26,715
with Amazon, Google, and Lockheed Martin running all

1959
01:07:26,715 --> 01:07:28,815
of the payment systems and operations

1960
01:07:29,675 --> 01:07:32,015
in the US government, they end up having

1961
01:07:32,155 --> 01:07:33,375
tremendous power.

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01:07:33,675 --> 01:07:35,675
You know, it comes over time through just

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01:07:35,675 --> 01:07:37,135
their operational control.

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And and that's why, you know, we've seen

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01:07:40,474 --> 01:07:40,974
really

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01:07:42,869 --> 01:07:46,230
dramatic reduction of operational control by congress as

1967
01:07:46,230 --> 01:07:47,909
more and more in the rise of the

1968
01:07:47,909 --> 01:07:50,489
deep state is the rise of corporate contractors,

1969
01:07:51,269 --> 01:07:54,089
defense contractors, big tech firms, and banks

1970
01:07:54,525 --> 01:07:56,525
ending up controlling and running all of the

1971
01:07:56,525 --> 01:07:59,505
government's operations, including their financial transactions.

1972
01:08:00,764 --> 01:08:02,284
Well and this was a point I was

1973
01:08:02,284 --> 01:08:04,385
trying to make when people were doing cartwheels

1974
01:08:04,525 --> 01:08:06,924
over the nomination to Kash Patel. Kash Patel

1975
01:08:06,924 --> 01:08:09,059
is one of those guys who believes that

1976
01:08:09,059 --> 01:08:11,300
the deep state is just Democrats we don't

1977
01:08:11,300 --> 01:08:11,800
like.

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01:08:12,099 --> 01:08:15,140
Right. As opposed to what Catherine just laid

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01:08:15,140 --> 01:08:18,340
out, in terms of the operational infrastructure of

1980
01:08:18,340 --> 01:08:19,640
how the deep state moves.

1981
01:08:20,885 --> 01:08:23,045
Right. Which is why we're go ahead. It

1982
01:08:23,045 --> 01:08:25,045
was very strange. I was watching in a

1983
01:08:25,045 --> 01:08:27,204
recent interview that Kaush Patel did, and he

1984
01:08:27,204 --> 01:08:27,704
said,

1985
01:08:28,005 --> 01:08:29,765
you know, day 1, I'm gonna shut down

1986
01:08:29,765 --> 01:08:30,505
the federal,

1987
01:08:31,045 --> 01:08:33,445
the FBI headquarters in Washington and turn it

1988
01:08:33,445 --> 01:08:34,744
into a deep state museum

1989
01:08:35,220 --> 01:08:38,500
and send the 7,000 agents out into the

1990
01:08:38,500 --> 01:08:40,819
rural areas and countryside and, you know, it's

1991
01:08:40,819 --> 01:08:41,479
like the,

1992
01:08:42,020 --> 01:08:44,020
you know, the cultural revolution. But here's the

1993
01:08:44,020 --> 01:08:47,319
thing. If you understand how federal bureaucracy works,

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01:08:47,954 --> 01:08:50,354
you know that you can't do that without

1995
01:08:50,354 --> 01:08:52,215
congressional approval. You can't

1996
01:08:52,755 --> 01:08:54,755
you can't fund a travel budget that can

1997
01:08:54,755 --> 01:08:57,074
do that. You can't move your staffing levels

1998
01:08:57,074 --> 01:08:58,614
all over the country without

1999
01:08:58,994 --> 01:08:59,458
you know, those staffing levels are controlled and

2000
01:08:59,458 --> 01:09:00,460
dictated and and influenced by the levels are

2001
01:09:00,460 --> 01:09:02,747
controlled and dictated and and influenced by the

2002
01:09:02,747 --> 01:09:04,403
appropriations committee and OMB. I mean, you just

2003
01:09:04,478 --> 01:09:05,819
you you you're just as the head of

2004
01:09:05,819 --> 01:09:07,340
the FBI, you don't have the power to

2005
01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:08,699
arbitrarily do that. Why would you say that?

2006
01:09:08,699 --> 01:09:11,260
He should if you look at his resume,

2007
01:09:11,260 --> 01:09:12,159
he knows better.

2008
01:09:15,715 --> 01:09:17,234
I think it's in point. I think it's

2009
01:09:17,234 --> 01:09:19,335
seen now before. Go ahead. Go ahead, Ken.

2010
01:09:19,395 --> 01:09:20,755
A lot of what they are saying at

2011
01:09:20,755 --> 01:09:22,675
the moment is just about pleasing the people

2012
01:09:22,675 --> 01:09:24,194
at the back with the big Trump signs.

2013
01:09:24,194 --> 01:09:26,034
I mean, like, we're gonna audit the IRS

2014
01:09:26,034 --> 01:09:27,954
as part of that as well. Like, everybody

2015
01:09:27,954 --> 01:09:29,715
hates the IRS. So we'll say something about

2016
01:09:29,715 --> 01:09:31,500
how we'll order the IRS, and we'll get

2017
01:09:31,500 --> 01:09:33,979
all people that resent paying contact every April

2018
01:09:33,979 --> 01:09:36,699
to choose. I think because Palantir already has

2019
01:09:36,699 --> 01:09:38,699
an IRS contract as far as I know.

2020
01:09:38,699 --> 01:09:40,300
I think they are gonna do Well, I

2021
01:09:40,300 --> 01:09:41,659
think I they might do it, but I

2022
01:09:41,659 --> 01:09:43,260
think the only reason to say they're gonna

2023
01:09:43,260 --> 01:09:44,715
do it is to plead. Like, they could

2024
01:09:44,715 --> 01:09:46,314
just easily just put that in a two

2025
01:09:46,314 --> 01:09:48,555
line press conference in January, and it's my

2026
01:09:48,555 --> 01:09:49,914
press release in January and not make a

2027
01:09:49,914 --> 01:09:51,755
big public thing of it. Right. I I

2028
01:09:51,755 --> 01:09:53,354
think it's the secondary part as well, though.

2029
01:09:53,354 --> 01:09:54,635
It's about it's not just about you know,

2030
01:09:54,635 --> 01:09:56,255
it's about pointing to that, but also

2031
01:09:56,635 --> 01:09:57,135
seeing

2032
01:09:57,869 --> 01:09:59,869
the the being able to frame it as

2033
01:09:59,869 --> 01:10:01,710
the democrats wouldn't let him do the thing

2034
01:10:01,710 --> 01:10:03,550
that would have saved everybody. Like, that's always

2035
01:10:03,550 --> 01:10:05,229
how this seems to go. Right? The extended

2036
01:10:05,229 --> 01:10:07,070
confirmation is the same point. So, eventually, you

2037
01:10:07,070 --> 01:10:08,750
can like, as long as they keep the

2038
01:10:08,750 --> 01:10:11,425
the the zombie thing going forward and act

2039
01:10:11,425 --> 01:10:12,704
like, well, we would've I mean, I make

2040
01:10:12,704 --> 01:10:14,385
this point about Obama and the rest. Obama

2041
01:10:14,385 --> 01:10:15,904
would've changed the world, but they wouldn't let

2042
01:10:15,904 --> 01:10:17,585
him do it. Like, they constantly keep doing

2043
01:10:17,585 --> 01:10:19,104
this. Trump's term was the same thing. They

2044
01:10:19,104 --> 01:10:20,784
tricked him or they did this. So that

2045
01:10:20,864 --> 01:10:22,304
I think that's where this plays out in

2046
01:10:22,304 --> 01:10:24,465
the interest of shoving us into the next

2047
01:10:24,465 --> 01:10:26,324
control structure. So Ryan suppose.

2048
01:10:27,390 --> 01:10:28,289
You go, kid.

2049
01:10:28,670 --> 01:10:29,710
Well, I was just going to say, we've

2050
01:10:29,710 --> 01:10:31,470
we've talked a lot about policy down the

2051
01:10:31,470 --> 01:10:33,949
line, but there is there is the inauguration

2052
01:10:33,949 --> 01:10:35,869
and the confirmation areas here. Like, what do

2053
01:10:35,869 --> 01:10:37,489
you who do you think of the nominees

2054
01:10:37,550 --> 01:10:38,750
will get their job, and who do you

2055
01:10:38,750 --> 01:10:40,210
think is gonna be turned away?

2056
01:10:41,305 --> 01:10:42,744
Yeah. Good question. Do you wanna say something

2057
01:10:42,744 --> 01:10:43,564
first, Catherine?

2058
01:10:44,185 --> 01:10:45,784
Oh, so I was just gonna tell you

2059
01:10:45,784 --> 01:10:46,444
a story.

2060
01:10:47,465 --> 01:10:50,104
When I was assistant secretary at housing, I

2061
01:10:50,104 --> 01:10:51,784
got a call from the head of public

2062
01:10:51,784 --> 01:10:53,704
affairs who said you're in real trouble with

2063
01:10:53,704 --> 01:10:54,765
the Heritage Foundation,

2064
01:10:55,350 --> 01:10:57,670
which is conservative think tank in Washington. I

2065
01:10:57,670 --> 01:10:59,989
said, oh, well, that's terrible. Why don't we

2066
01:10:59,989 --> 01:11:01,590
just invite them over to dinner? So I

2067
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:03,750
invited a couple of people who run the

2068
01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:05,590
Heritage Foundation over to my house for dinner.

2069
01:11:05,590 --> 01:11:07,429
We had a little dinner party. And I

2070
01:11:07,429 --> 01:11:08,789
said, Pray Tell, what have I done to

2071
01:11:08,789 --> 01:11:10,170
offend you? And they said, well,

2072
01:11:10,925 --> 01:11:12,925
you know, the secretary went up to Harlem

2073
01:11:12,925 --> 01:11:14,765
and had a cut press conference to Charlie

2074
01:11:14,765 --> 01:11:16,364
Rangel, and he told him he was gonna

2075
01:11:16,364 --> 01:11:18,784
fund all these these projects at Harlem.

2076
01:11:19,244 --> 01:11:20,925
And then he came back and told you

2077
01:11:20,925 --> 01:11:22,784
to do it, and then you you're implementing

2078
01:11:22,845 --> 01:11:24,780
it. I said, well, yes. He ordered me

2079
01:11:24,780 --> 01:11:26,780
to do it, and it's all perfectly legal.

2080
01:11:26,780 --> 01:11:29,260
And so, you know, I'm implementing his orders.

2081
01:11:29,260 --> 01:11:30,800
And they said, no. You don't understand.

2082
01:11:31,340 --> 01:11:33,600
You're supposed to make sure it never happens.

2083
01:11:34,140 --> 01:11:36,159
And he can say it's the bureaucracy

2084
01:11:36,539 --> 01:11:39,305
because he ordered it, but you're supposed to

2085
01:11:39,305 --> 01:11:41,225
just not do it. And and I said,

2086
01:11:41,225 --> 01:11:42,664
why is that? And he said, because the

2087
01:11:42,664 --> 01:11:45,064
point of the press conference is to make

2088
01:11:45,064 --> 01:11:47,145
sure that the white woman in Westchester who

2089
01:11:47,145 --> 01:11:48,284
watched the press conference

2090
01:11:48,744 --> 01:11:50,425
think that we care about people, but we

2091
01:11:50,425 --> 01:11:52,585
don't wanna waste any money. We already already

2092
01:11:52,585 --> 01:11:54,029
get the results from the press

2093
01:11:54,510 --> 01:11:56,109
conference, but you're the guy who's gotta stop

2094
01:11:56,109 --> 01:11:57,969
it so he has plausible deniability.

2095
01:11:58,270 --> 01:11:59,889
You just didn't realize that.

2096
01:12:00,510 --> 01:12:01,329
So depressing.

2097
01:12:02,909 --> 01:12:04,510
And you know what's most depressing, Catherine, is

2098
01:12:04,510 --> 01:12:06,429
that we know that that's everywhere, that that's

2099
01:12:06,429 --> 01:12:08,429
that's policy as usual or business as usual.

2100
01:12:08,429 --> 01:12:10,164
Well, but here's the thing. I was I

2101
01:12:10,164 --> 01:12:12,404
was at the dentist this morning, and the

2102
01:12:12,404 --> 01:12:14,885
dentist said to me, he said, because I'm

2103
01:12:14,885 --> 01:12:16,664
back in the Netherlands. He said,

2104
01:12:17,364 --> 01:12:18,425
he said, you know,

2105
01:12:18,885 --> 01:12:20,484
how how was it being over in America

2106
01:12:20,484 --> 01:12:22,244
during the period of the election? And I

2107
01:12:22,244 --> 01:12:23,844
said, well, you know, every 4 years, we

2108
01:12:23,844 --> 01:12:24,824
lose our minds.

2109
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,520
And then, you know, hopefully, within some reasonable

2110
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:29,520
period of time, we get it back. And

2111
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,280
they just thought that was very funny. Because

2112
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:32,960
to the world, it does look like we've

2113
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,600
lost our minds. Yeah. And and I keep

2114
01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:37,680
coming back to the question that we the

2115
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,220
role we have as media.

2116
01:12:39,914 --> 01:12:41,055
How do we help

2117
01:12:41,835 --> 01:12:44,795
the people watching this to understand what Kit

2118
01:12:44,795 --> 01:12:45,534
is describing

2119
01:12:46,155 --> 01:12:48,095
or you're describing? This is theater,

2120
01:12:48,635 --> 01:12:50,555
and you need to get back into the

2121
01:12:50,555 --> 01:12:53,435
real world and stop wasting your time on

2122
01:12:53,435 --> 01:12:54,015
the theater.

2123
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,000
Let alone getting played for a patsy by

2124
01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:57,739
the theater?

2125
01:12:58,119 --> 01:13:00,539
How do we how do we help everybody

2126
01:13:00,679 --> 01:13:02,219
get back into the real world?

2127
01:13:03,159 --> 01:13:04,520
That is the question of the time, isn't

2128
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:05,800
it? I mean, I the same thing we're

2129
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:07,639
talking about. How do you reach somebody in

2130
01:13:07,639 --> 01:13:09,414
a cult? You know? Like, somebody who's, like,

2131
01:13:09,414 --> 01:13:11,574
socially engineered. Like, how do you circumvent that?

2132
01:13:11,574 --> 01:13:13,095
How do you show them that they're wrong?

2133
01:13:13,095 --> 01:13:15,175
These are classic questions in in this field.

2134
01:13:15,175 --> 01:13:16,695
And, you know, there's a lot of I

2135
01:13:16,695 --> 01:13:18,454
I think more than ever today, we're, for

2136
01:13:18,454 --> 01:13:20,215
some reason, breaking through through a lot of

2137
01:13:20,215 --> 01:13:22,215
them. Honestly, I don't know. I think everyone

2138
01:13:22,215 --> 01:13:23,735
has their own opinion. You guys wanna chime

2139
01:13:23,735 --> 01:13:24,390
in on that at

2140
01:13:25,829 --> 01:13:27,590
all? Any thoughts? I I it's it's a

2141
01:13:27,590 --> 01:13:28,989
complicated thing, you know? It's more of those

2142
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:30,710
we each have our own ways we try

2143
01:13:30,710 --> 01:13:32,229
and circumvent it, you know? It's it's a

2144
01:13:32,229 --> 01:13:33,510
great question though and I think it's something

2145
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:35,110
we should be focusing on every day. You

2146
01:13:35,110 --> 01:13:36,735
know, how do we show them this? And

2147
01:13:36,735 --> 01:13:38,335
not just, as I said recently that we

2148
01:13:38,335 --> 01:13:39,715
all can learn it myself especially,

2149
01:13:40,335 --> 01:13:42,095
it's not just, you know, tell them they're

2150
01:13:42,095 --> 01:13:43,695
wrong or stupid or do something that may,

2151
01:13:43,695 --> 01:13:45,295
you know, that's like I'm getting my point

2152
01:13:45,295 --> 01:13:46,574
is you engage on Twitter all the time

2153
01:13:46,574 --> 01:13:47,935
these days where you get pulled into these

2154
01:13:47,935 --> 01:13:48,914
vitriolic conversations.

2155
01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:50,640
And I think it's hard because, you know,

2156
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,400
sometimes you think you are being, like, they

2157
01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,680
just don't want to and you wanna call

2158
01:13:53,680 --> 01:13:55,199
them out for it. But sometimes it's about

2159
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:56,880
just trying to do what we're saying. How

2160
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,400
do you reach them without making them feel

2161
01:13:58,400 --> 01:13:59,840
stupid? Or, you know, I I one of

2162
01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:01,199
the things I'll point out since I'm asking

2163
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:02,800
the question is you try to find common

2164
01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:04,079
ground. You know, you come at it in

2165
01:14:04,079 --> 01:14:05,335
a little bit of what we like where,

2166
01:14:05,335 --> 01:14:06,774
you know, like as if you make them

2167
01:14:06,774 --> 01:14:08,054
feel that you're on the same side. You

2168
01:14:08,054 --> 01:14:09,175
know, that we see it the same way

2169
01:14:09,175 --> 01:14:10,375
but did you check out this thing that

2170
01:14:10,375 --> 01:14:12,454
seems to contradict that? So it left their

2171
01:14:12,454 --> 01:14:14,295
guard down first before you address something that

2172
01:14:14,295 --> 01:14:16,135
might influence their opinion, you know. But it's

2173
01:14:16,135 --> 01:14:18,710
it's a difficult thing. Plant the seed, water

2174
01:14:18,710 --> 01:14:19,689
it as often as possible.

2175
01:14:20,069 --> 01:14:23,189
Well, the the approach that you're describing is

2176
01:14:23,189 --> 01:14:25,590
something that works incredibly well in, like, small

2177
01:14:25,590 --> 01:14:28,170
group settings or 1 on 1 settings. But

2178
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:28,729
from,

2179
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:31,609
you know, from behind the camera

2180
01:14:32,224 --> 01:14:34,244
doing a show, what

2181
01:14:34,864 --> 01:14:36,864
the the best things that we can do

2182
01:14:36,864 --> 01:14:39,604
is what we're already doing, which is highlighting

2183
01:14:39,824 --> 01:14:40,484
all of

2184
01:14:40,864 --> 01:14:42,724
the, you know, blatant

2185
01:14:43,344 --> 01:14:43,844
hypocrisy,

2186
01:14:44,304 --> 01:14:46,164
the obvious agendas,

2187
01:14:46,625 --> 01:14:47,889
the to people,

2188
01:14:48,270 --> 01:14:50,130
you know, to people who may not necessarily

2189
01:14:50,189 --> 01:14:52,829
see it, but from a number of different

2190
01:14:52,829 --> 01:14:54,050
angles of approach.

2191
01:14:54,909 --> 01:14:57,810
And so what my buddy, Slim, says

2192
01:14:58,429 --> 01:14:59,649
from the beef initiative,

2193
01:15:00,635 --> 01:15:02,555
is that, you know, the best thing that

2194
01:15:02,555 --> 01:15:05,055
we can do is encourage absolutely everyone

2195
01:15:05,595 --> 01:15:08,735
in our immediate spheres to change their consumption

2196
01:15:08,795 --> 01:15:09,295
model.

2197
01:15:09,835 --> 01:15:12,475
And and that's across the board. That's what

2198
01:15:12,475 --> 01:15:14,529
you're putting into your body. It's what you're

2199
01:15:14,529 --> 01:15:16,689
putting into your brain. It's what you're doing

2200
01:15:16,689 --> 01:15:18,949
to nurture your soul and your spirit.

2201
01:15:19,329 --> 01:15:20,630
All of these things,

2202
01:15:21,409 --> 01:15:24,449
if that's the example that's being set and

2203
01:15:24,449 --> 01:15:26,369
if that's the, you know,

2204
01:15:26,850 --> 01:15:27,829
kind of the

2205
01:15:29,235 --> 01:15:31,574
conversations that we're having in our immediate,

2206
01:15:32,195 --> 01:15:33,814
then it does have,

2207
01:15:34,435 --> 01:15:37,635
an expanded effect going out in that you

2208
01:15:37,635 --> 01:15:39,975
have the consumption model in your community

2209
01:15:40,310 --> 01:15:44,010
can get changed relatively quickly just via food.

2210
01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:46,630
And if you wanna turn anyone on the

2211
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:47,130
planet

2212
01:15:47,829 --> 01:15:48,970
into a conspiracy

2213
01:15:49,350 --> 01:15:51,189
theorist, give them a couple of chickens to

2214
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:51,689
raise.

2215
01:15:52,949 --> 01:15:55,604
Chickens are the gateway drug to conspiracy theories.

2216
01:15:55,685 --> 01:15:58,805
They are because you noticed immediately how much

2217
01:15:58,805 --> 01:16:01,524
better the eggs are. And then you start

2218
01:16:01,524 --> 01:16:03,845
thinking about that and it opens up an

2219
01:16:03,845 --> 01:16:05,784
entirely brand new world,

2220
01:16:06,645 --> 01:16:08,744
of thought that you wouldn't have ordinarily

2221
01:16:09,125 --> 01:16:10,024
stumbled across

2222
01:16:10,329 --> 01:16:12,170
had you just simply listened to any of

2223
01:16:12,170 --> 01:16:13,310
us the first time.

2224
01:16:14,409 --> 01:16:15,770
Yeah. Well said. I love it. I mean,

2225
01:16:15,770 --> 01:16:17,449
it's it's I I think the the main

2226
01:16:17,449 --> 01:16:18,810
point of what we're doing in general, and

2227
01:16:18,810 --> 01:16:20,170
I Slim is well, I recommend you guys

2228
01:16:20,170 --> 01:16:21,850
check out his protect Texas Slim in general

2229
01:16:21,850 --> 01:16:23,449
and the work the he does. Steve talks

2230
01:16:23,449 --> 01:16:25,244
to them often. You know, just challenging these

2231
01:16:25,244 --> 01:16:26,765
models more than, you know, the consumption model

2232
01:16:26,765 --> 01:16:28,445
I think is a good analogy. The term

2233
01:16:28,445 --> 01:16:30,125
even works in itself but more than just

2234
01:16:30,125 --> 01:16:31,725
food, just kind of like what you consume

2235
01:16:31,725 --> 01:16:34,125
media wise and everything else and reflect on,

2236
01:16:34,125 --> 01:16:35,885
you know, how you may change that. And

2237
01:16:35,885 --> 01:16:37,405
I think what's important is that the people

2238
01:16:37,405 --> 01:16:39,310
watching, I'm of the mind and I know

2239
01:16:39,310 --> 01:16:40,590
I say this often, I'm of a positive

2240
01:16:40,590 --> 01:16:41,090
end.

2241
01:16:41,550 --> 01:16:43,310
I think more people than not are beginning

2242
01:16:43,310 --> 01:16:44,829
to see this or at least be entertaining

2243
01:16:44,829 --> 01:16:46,190
these questions. And I think it's because of

2244
01:16:46,190 --> 01:16:47,390
the work that you're all doing here and

2245
01:16:47,390 --> 01:16:48,590
the work that we're all doing with the

2246
01:16:48,590 --> 01:16:50,350
IMA. I really do see that and I

2247
01:16:50,350 --> 01:16:52,135
think it's a positive note. But why why

2248
01:16:52,135 --> 01:16:53,735
don't we end with the conversate with the

2249
01:16:53,735 --> 01:16:55,814
point that Kit put forward on on who,

2250
01:16:55,814 --> 01:16:58,135
you know, like, our our prediction essentially on

2251
01:16:58,135 --> 01:17:01,414
the different cabinet picks and the different people

2252
01:17:01,414 --> 01:17:03,335
who will or will not, you know, go

2253
01:17:03,335 --> 01:17:05,015
into as much depth as you'd like. Whoever

2254
01:17:05,015 --> 01:17:06,569
wants to start. You wanna start, Steve?

2255
01:17:08,010 --> 01:17:10,909
I I think that it'll be a difficult

2256
01:17:11,289 --> 01:17:13,469
win for them to get absolutely

2257
01:17:13,770 --> 01:17:16,010
everyone. I know that there are a number

2258
01:17:16,010 --> 01:17:16,670
of different,

2259
01:17:17,609 --> 01:17:19,550
democrats running around threatening

2260
01:17:20,215 --> 01:17:22,074
to make sure that Tulsi Gabbard

2261
01:17:22,534 --> 01:17:25,735
doesn't see the DNI's office. I know there

2262
01:17:25,735 --> 01:17:27,835
are people that are big mad at Bobby,

2263
01:17:29,655 --> 01:17:31,914
and he may not see HHS.

2264
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,500
Cash Patel is a a toss-up because, again,

2265
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:38,899
as with

2266
01:17:39,359 --> 01:17:40,899
Gabbard, as with,

2267
01:17:42,479 --> 01:17:44,960
you know, everyone who's been tapped, they are

2268
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:48,314
Israel first. They've made that perfectly clear. Tulsi

2269
01:17:48,314 --> 01:17:50,414
Gabbard has a long standing history

2270
01:17:50,795 --> 01:17:52,734
of being very, very anti.

2271
01:17:53,354 --> 01:17:55,835
I think the focus group tested phrase she

2272
01:17:55,835 --> 01:17:58,175
uses is radical Islamist

2273
01:17:58,554 --> 01:17:59,054
jihadists.

2274
01:18:00,579 --> 01:18:01,560
Radical Islamists.

2275
01:18:02,100 --> 01:18:04,900
I think that's the the gamut phrase for

2276
01:18:04,900 --> 01:18:05,400
it.

2277
01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:08,600
But she is very much in favor of,

2278
01:18:09,699 --> 01:18:11,239
you know, the Bush doctrine

2279
01:18:11,954 --> 01:18:14,914
as far as, you know, preemptive strikes on

2280
01:18:14,914 --> 01:18:17,414
countries that may harbor, quote, unquote, terrorists.

2281
01:18:19,234 --> 01:18:21,255
But a lot of people don't like her.

2282
01:18:21,715 --> 01:18:23,635
I I think you're going to see the

2283
01:18:23,635 --> 01:18:24,135
more,

2284
01:18:25,460 --> 01:18:27,679
you know, quote, unquote radical elements

2285
01:18:28,300 --> 01:18:31,019
that he's tapped get pushed to the side

2286
01:18:31,019 --> 01:18:32,639
in favor of more,

2287
01:18:34,059 --> 01:18:34,559
establishment

2288
01:18:34,939 --> 01:18:35,439
creatures.

2289
01:18:36,939 --> 01:18:37,439
However,

2290
01:18:38,034 --> 01:18:40,375
if you put somebody in a position

2291
01:18:40,914 --> 01:18:43,795
that's a politically appointed position in the first

2292
01:18:43,795 --> 01:18:44,295
place,

2293
01:18:44,675 --> 01:18:48,454
their power is greatly hindered by the bureaucracy

2294
01:18:48,755 --> 01:18:50,055
that supports them.

2295
01:18:51,109 --> 01:18:51,849
And so,

2296
01:18:52,869 --> 01:18:54,649
you know, it it could have

2297
01:18:55,029 --> 01:18:56,889
all of the effect of a ceremonial

2298
01:18:57,189 --> 01:18:57,689
appointment.

2299
01:19:00,710 --> 01:19:02,789
Well, I think I think in general, my

2300
01:19:02,789 --> 01:19:04,935
gen my my overview on this is that

2301
01:19:05,095 --> 01:19:06,614
kind of in similar line with what Kit

2302
01:19:06,614 --> 01:19:08,375
and and mostly everyone else is putting forward

2303
01:19:08,375 --> 01:19:09,814
today is that I think that these picks

2304
01:19:09,814 --> 01:19:10,314
are

2305
01:19:10,854 --> 01:19:12,314
designed in a way to

2306
01:19:13,095 --> 01:19:14,935
distract, you know, to say like this, you

2307
01:19:14,935 --> 01:19:16,475
know, to to may rather

2308
01:19:16,949 --> 01:19:18,949
rationalize and justify a pick that they otherwise

2309
01:19:18,949 --> 01:19:20,630
wouldn't have wanted if it wasn't first they

2310
01:19:20,630 --> 01:19:22,789
floated Pompeo and Nikki Haley. Right? Like, that

2311
01:19:22,869 --> 01:19:24,390
that's already kind of happened. So these ones

2312
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:26,250
are a little bit less or more digestible.

2313
01:19:26,710 --> 01:19:28,070
The when and how is hard to say.

2314
01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:29,590
I think the ones that I would argue

2315
01:19:29,590 --> 01:19:31,765
my prediction more than anything, I don't think

2316
01:19:31,765 --> 01:19:33,604
RFK Junior is gonna be allowed. I think

2317
01:19:33,604 --> 01:19:35,125
that was the point. I I think that

2318
01:19:35,125 --> 01:19:37,864
he, regardless of his blind spot for Israel,

2319
01:19:38,005 --> 01:19:39,444
it has a lot I mean, right now

2320
01:19:39,444 --> 01:19:40,965
is in contradiction to a lot of what

2321
01:19:40,965 --> 01:19:42,725
the the other parts of the administration are

2322
01:19:42,725 --> 01:19:45,064
doing. Right? Even the vaccine direction, the mRNA

2323
01:19:45,125 --> 01:19:45,625
direction.

2324
01:19:45,989 --> 01:19:47,510
I mean, if there's 14 different things you

2325
01:19:47,510 --> 01:19:49,189
could point out that he seems to be

2326
01:19:49,189 --> 01:19:50,949
against that the rest of the administration is

2327
01:19:50,949 --> 01:19:53,350
sort of at least allowing to go forward.

2328
01:19:53,350 --> 01:19:55,829
So I think that he will be refused

2329
01:19:55,829 --> 01:19:58,149
in senate confirmation, and they'll blame the democrats,

2330
01:19:58,149 --> 01:19:59,590
and that's how that's why they won't have

2331
01:19:59,590 --> 01:20:01,270
to go after mRNA, which both

2332
01:20:01,885 --> 01:20:03,824
you know, I think all of them. Diehl,

2333
01:20:03,885 --> 01:20:05,024
Vivek, Musk.

2334
01:20:05,405 --> 01:20:06,925
They all of them are invested one way

2335
01:20:06,925 --> 01:20:08,845
or another in that direction, which scares me.

2336
01:20:08,845 --> 01:20:10,204
But I think the other ones that are

2337
01:20:10,364 --> 01:20:11,885
the the other one like a Musk is

2338
01:20:11,885 --> 01:20:14,284
an interesting overlap. I can't tell whether that

2339
01:20:14,284 --> 01:20:15,645
was one that was meant to not be

2340
01:20:15,645 --> 01:20:17,430
or not in my opinion, but I think

2341
01:20:17,430 --> 01:20:19,409
the I'll just end on my my prediction.

2342
01:20:19,409 --> 01:20:21,210
I think there's some that will be are

2343
01:20:21,210 --> 01:20:22,510
designed up to be make it,

2344
01:20:23,289 --> 01:20:25,130
RFKB in the one I'll point to. But

2345
01:20:25,130 --> 01:20:26,489
the interesting part is you have the rest

2346
01:20:26,489 --> 01:20:28,729
of them like the HEGSAT, the Huckabees, the

2347
01:20:28,729 --> 01:20:29,685
Bodies that are

2348
01:20:30,885 --> 01:20:33,444
aggressive Zionists that are probably gonna fly through

2349
01:20:33,444 --> 01:20:35,125
with no problem. And I think that's gonna

2350
01:20:35,125 --> 01:20:36,805
be a big red flag to show you

2351
01:20:36,805 --> 01:20:38,324
that that's not the things they're worried about

2352
01:20:38,324 --> 01:20:41,364
despite how they're screaming about prophetic Zionist end

2353
01:20:41,364 --> 01:20:43,765
time, like, real conversations about how we are

2354
01:20:43,765 --> 01:20:45,145
gonna lead that. It's terrifying.

2355
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:47,000
But I think the or like a Patel,

2356
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:48,199
same kind of thing. Is that I think

2357
01:20:48,199 --> 01:20:49,560
that's gonna be the standout is that that

2358
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,560
gets flying by and then whether Musk makes

2359
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:52,760
it or not, I think is an interesting

2360
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:54,520
example of, you know, I get the same

2361
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:55,880
point. If he makes it, I think it'll

2362
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,479
say a lot. Oh, go ahead, Catherine. Must

2363
01:20:57,479 --> 01:20:58,779
does not need a confirmation.

2364
01:20:59,319 --> 01:21:01,775
He's not in a cabinet position. Oh, that

2365
01:21:01,854 --> 01:21:03,135
you know, I'm glad you said that actually.

2366
01:21:03,135 --> 01:21:05,454
That's a He doesn't need a If if

2367
01:21:05,454 --> 01:21:06,755
they establish a government,

2368
01:21:07,215 --> 01:21:09,695
department of government efficiency, will he then require

2369
01:21:09,695 --> 01:21:10,195
confirmation?

2370
01:21:10,895 --> 01:21:12,895
If they make it a cabinet department, yes.

2371
01:21:12,895 --> 01:21:14,414
But I don't think they will make it

2372
01:21:14,414 --> 01:21:16,175
cabinet department. I think they'll make sure he

2373
01:21:16,175 --> 01:21:17,234
doesn't need confirmation.

2374
01:21:17,670 --> 01:21:19,989
Yeah. You have Vivek Ramos, Swami, out here

2375
01:21:19,989 --> 01:21:23,750
running around complaining about unelected bureaucrats while he's

2376
01:21:23,750 --> 01:21:26,789
trying to become an unelected it's I just

2377
01:21:26,869 --> 01:21:27,369
the

2378
01:21:27,670 --> 01:21:30,070
ah, it life should come with a rim

2379
01:21:30,070 --> 01:21:31,130
shot now. Just

2380
01:21:31,909 --> 01:21:34,614
every time these clowns open their mouth.

2381
01:21:34,914 --> 01:21:36,055
That's alright. So,

2382
01:21:36,994 --> 01:21:39,074
I Ryan, I have to tell you, I

2383
01:21:39,074 --> 01:21:42,135
do think that Bobby's gonna get confirmed. Yeah.

2384
01:21:42,354 --> 01:21:44,994
And the the reason I think he's gonna

2385
01:21:44,994 --> 01:21:47,574
get confirmed is if you look at

2386
01:21:48,034 --> 01:21:48,534
what

2387
01:21:48,970 --> 01:21:51,050
I think the deep state wants to or

2388
01:21:51,050 --> 01:21:53,530
the the establishment wants to accomplish with this

2389
01:21:53,530 --> 01:21:54,030
administration,

2390
01:21:54,890 --> 01:21:56,590
they wanna keep the young people,

2391
01:21:56,970 --> 01:21:58,649
you know, in the tent pissing out and

2392
01:21:58,649 --> 01:22:00,970
not outside the tent pissing in. Good point.

2393
01:22:00,970 --> 01:22:03,390
And I think I think they're looking to

2394
01:22:04,155 --> 01:22:05,994
get RFK to do that. They also know

2395
01:22:05,994 --> 01:22:07,914
that the, you know, that the what has

2396
01:22:07,914 --> 01:22:10,074
happened with food and drugs has gone way

2397
01:22:10,074 --> 01:22:10,574
beyond

2398
01:22:11,354 --> 01:22:13,114
anything. You know, it it really needs a

2399
01:22:13,114 --> 01:22:15,055
course correction. So I think the establishment

2400
01:22:15,755 --> 01:22:17,994
is willing to tolerate a course correction. I

2401
01:22:17,994 --> 01:22:20,439
think one's needed. But I think they're gonna

2402
01:22:20,439 --> 01:22:21,739
use this to keep

2403
01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:25,399
him, you know, pulling the young people back

2404
01:22:25,399 --> 01:22:27,159
in the tent in a way that, you

2405
01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:29,000
know, for many of us, it would probably

2406
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:30,760
be better in the long run if RFK

2407
01:22:30,760 --> 01:22:32,539
wasn't confirmed. But I think the

2408
01:22:33,085 --> 01:22:35,724
the worst parts of the establishment want him

2409
01:22:35,724 --> 01:22:38,045
confirmed, and that's what will get him confirmed.

2410
01:22:38,045 --> 01:22:41,804
Because, obviously, the Democrats are still stinging from

2411
01:22:41,804 --> 01:22:43,484
what happened. Even though they were the ones

2412
01:22:43,484 --> 01:22:45,164
who threw him out of the Democratic Party,

2413
01:22:45,164 --> 01:22:46,524
he had no choice but to leave. They

2414
01:22:46,524 --> 01:22:49,020
made him. But but even though they see

2415
01:22:49,020 --> 01:22:51,340
him as a turncoat, I think the you

2416
01:22:51,340 --> 01:22:54,140
know, I I basically think the central bankers

2417
01:22:54,140 --> 01:22:57,260
and intelligence agencies will will overrule them, and

2418
01:22:57,260 --> 01:22:58,640
and he will be confirmed.

2419
01:22:59,100 --> 01:23:01,100
It's my theory. Real real quickly in your

2420
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,895
mind, do you I make him sorry, Kate.

2421
01:23:02,895 --> 01:23:04,015
Real quick. Does that make him in your

2422
01:23:04,015 --> 01:23:05,614
mind somebody who's aware of that or that

2423
01:23:05,614 --> 01:23:06,595
he's being used?

2424
01:23:07,295 --> 01:23:09,295
You're you're I think I think he's being

2425
01:23:09,295 --> 01:23:10,175
used and,

2426
01:23:10,655 --> 01:23:12,895
you know, if I I think he will

2427
01:23:12,895 --> 01:23:13,795
try and do

2428
01:23:14,175 --> 01:23:16,015
get some very good things done in the

2429
01:23:16,015 --> 01:23:18,579
food and health area. Mhmm. And if I

2430
01:23:18,579 --> 01:23:21,380
were him, I would ignore why various people

2431
01:23:21,380 --> 01:23:23,060
are supporting me, and I would just go

2432
01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:25,539
and try and get them done. Makes sense.

2433
01:23:25,539 --> 01:23:27,780
Yeah. You're you always whenever you're in one

2434
01:23:27,780 --> 01:23:29,640
of these in a in a highly centralized

2435
01:23:29,699 --> 01:23:30,199
system,

2436
01:23:30,635 --> 01:23:32,954
you always have people using you and that

2437
01:23:32,954 --> 01:23:34,795
you would prefer not to have using you

2438
01:23:34,795 --> 01:23:35,854
as the way it is.

2439
01:23:36,875 --> 01:23:38,795
Interesting. Go ahead, Kent. I was I was

2440
01:23:38,795 --> 01:23:40,795
gonna agree. I was gonna say that I

2441
01:23:40,795 --> 01:23:41,775
think Kennedy,

2442
01:23:42,314 --> 01:23:44,475
they can't afford not to approve Kennedy. He

2443
01:23:44,475 --> 01:23:46,015
was so much of the ticket,

2444
01:23:46,609 --> 01:23:48,849
and his name still brings the family name

2445
01:23:48,849 --> 01:23:50,689
still brings such a a cachet with it

2446
01:23:50,689 --> 01:23:51,889
that I think they have to let him

2447
01:23:51,889 --> 01:23:54,369
in. And I think in some ways, what

2448
01:23:54,369 --> 01:23:55,109
he wants,

2449
01:23:55,489 --> 01:23:57,489
whether he wants this sincerely or not, can

2450
01:23:57,489 --> 01:24:00,130
be parlayed into important stuff. I mean, they

2451
01:24:00,130 --> 01:24:02,335
want to do food reform, and he's all

2452
01:24:02,335 --> 01:24:04,175
over food reform. He wants to make food

2453
01:24:04,175 --> 01:24:04,675
healthier.

2454
01:24:05,135 --> 01:24:07,215
Like, the greater establishment plan is to make

2455
01:24:07,215 --> 01:24:09,454
food, like, lab grown blocks that you have

2456
01:24:09,454 --> 01:24:11,695
to scan your wrist to get access to

2457
01:24:11,695 --> 01:24:13,635
from your local, food vending

2458
01:24:13,949 --> 01:24:14,449
machine.

2459
01:24:14,989 --> 01:24:16,909
But, you know, there are similar things at

2460
01:24:16,909 --> 01:24:18,430
play here. We want to limit the amount

2461
01:24:18,430 --> 01:24:20,029
of calories people eat. We want to limit

2462
01:24:20,029 --> 01:24:22,350
the kinds of food people eat. I actually

2463
01:24:22,350 --> 01:24:24,670
think I think I think Gabbard won't make

2464
01:24:24,670 --> 01:24:26,909
it thing. I think she's she's just there

2465
01:24:26,909 --> 01:24:29,074
to be there. She'll be she'll be replaced

2466
01:24:29,074 --> 01:24:30,755
with some other insider that no one's ever

2467
01:24:30,755 --> 01:24:32,835
heard of. But I think Kennedy will make

2468
01:24:32,835 --> 01:24:34,994
it. And I think I actually think my

2469
01:24:34,994 --> 01:24:36,835
big, like, wild card prediction is that they

2470
01:24:36,835 --> 01:24:38,194
will let him take fluoride out of the

2471
01:24:38,194 --> 01:24:40,274
water. That this will be the big winning

2472
01:24:40,274 --> 01:24:42,515
cause for the 1st 6 months of the

2473
01:24:42,515 --> 01:24:42,899
year.

2474
01:24:43,380 --> 01:24:44,819
And they'll do it in they won't actually

2475
01:24:44,819 --> 01:24:46,020
do it. They'll do it in the government

2476
01:24:46,020 --> 01:24:47,699
way. They'll have a a year long senate

2477
01:24:47,699 --> 01:24:49,399
hearing about days of fluoridation,

2478
01:24:50,500 --> 01:24:53,380
which It's not federally mandated, though. I'm sorry.

2479
01:24:53,380 --> 01:24:54,979
I gotta jump in here real quick because

2480
01:24:54,979 --> 01:24:57,539
Derek's Derek's not here to to fill this,

2481
01:24:57,539 --> 01:24:59,975
but fluoride is already being removed

2482
01:25:00,435 --> 01:25:03,255
from dozens and dozens of pounds and municipalities.

2483
01:25:03,475 --> 01:25:03,975
The

2484
01:25:04,354 --> 01:25:05,895
surgeon general of Florida

2485
01:25:06,354 --> 01:25:06,854
issued,

2486
01:25:07,314 --> 01:25:09,795
guidance for the entire state to remove it

2487
01:25:09,795 --> 01:25:11,814
about 10 or 11 days ago.

2488
01:25:12,340 --> 01:25:14,600
The this is something that is becoming

2489
01:25:14,979 --> 01:25:16,600
more and more and more prevalent.

2490
01:25:16,979 --> 01:25:19,300
Thanks to fluoride action network in that region.

2491
01:25:19,300 --> 01:25:20,760
But that's that's

2492
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:23,460
that's that's that's fact. Quite really. Right. That

2493
01:25:23,460 --> 01:25:25,984
is like, it's just like, look. Look what

2494
01:25:25,984 --> 01:25:28,064
we did. I mean, the mythos may be

2495
01:25:28,064 --> 01:25:30,064
that Kennedy will get credit for it, but

2496
01:25:30,064 --> 01:25:31,905
I I just I have to point out

2497
01:25:31,905 --> 01:25:33,045
that it's already

2498
01:25:33,425 --> 01:25:33,925
happening.

2499
01:25:34,465 --> 01:25:36,064
Well, Hocho, by the way, is carrying out

2500
01:25:36,064 --> 01:25:37,860
new programs to add more fluoride. So there's

2501
01:25:37,860 --> 01:25:39,460
gonna be an opening there for something. So

2502
01:25:39,460 --> 01:25:41,699
I agree The the big the the big

2503
01:25:41,699 --> 01:25:44,340
opening is gonna be whatever genius out there

2504
01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:46,979
is already making fluoride pills and fluoride drops

2505
01:25:46,979 --> 01:25:48,820
to sell to all the outraged soccer moms

2506
01:25:48,820 --> 01:25:50,979
on both coasts to best pick whatever fluoride

2507
01:25:50,979 --> 01:25:52,119
back in their own water.

2508
01:25:52,525 --> 01:25:55,324
I have a fluoride removal system because my

2509
01:25:55,324 --> 01:25:57,405
my girl lives in Marin County, which is

2510
01:25:57,405 --> 01:25:59,885
one of the most heavily fluoridated counties in

2511
01:25:59,885 --> 01:26:01,585
the entire state of California.

2512
01:26:02,284 --> 01:26:04,284
And, and I got it direct you know,

2513
01:26:04,284 --> 01:26:05,985
it's a a fantastic system.

2514
01:26:07,039 --> 01:26:08,880
But it only it's only good for the

2515
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,800
sink. You can't do a thing about it

2516
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:11,780
through the shower.

2517
01:26:12,480 --> 01:26:14,159
You would have to hook up a secondary

2518
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:15,760
one for your bathroom if you wanted one

2519
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,539
for your bathroom sink for every bathroom.

2520
01:26:18,335 --> 01:26:20,914
And it's, you know, but that's what

2521
01:26:21,295 --> 01:26:22,814
it takes if you want to, you know,

2522
01:26:22,814 --> 01:26:23,715
if you're unfortunate

2523
01:26:24,255 --> 01:26:26,274
enough to live in a county or municipality

2524
01:26:26,494 --> 01:26:28,175
where they still do that, particularly at the

2525
01:26:28,175 --> 01:26:29,715
rate that they do when we're in.

2526
01:26:31,060 --> 01:26:32,900
But excellent points made in general. Did you

2527
01:26:32,900 --> 01:26:34,100
did you have some more ad kit? Was

2528
01:26:34,100 --> 01:26:35,539
that was that, I didn't wanna cut you

2529
01:26:35,539 --> 01:26:36,039
off.

2530
01:26:36,420 --> 01:26:38,100
No. No. That was pretty much it. Yeah.

2531
01:26:38,100 --> 01:26:39,380
I think it's it's a good point, you

2532
01:26:39,380 --> 01:26:40,820
know, is that it's all about the I

2533
01:26:40,820 --> 01:26:42,500
guess, it seems like we all generally agree

2534
01:26:42,500 --> 01:26:45,015
here generally agree that it's about presenting the

2535
01:26:45,015 --> 01:26:47,335
illusion or rather just the narrative, the construct

2536
01:26:47,335 --> 01:26:48,314
to, you know, whether

2537
01:26:48,614 --> 01:26:50,055
maybe some positives come out of it or

2538
01:26:50,055 --> 01:26:51,735
not, it's about more so presenting in a

2539
01:26:51,735 --> 01:26:53,574
certain way. So what I think is really

2540
01:26:53,574 --> 01:26:55,814
interesting is what we kinda highlighted there is

2541
01:26:55,814 --> 01:26:57,175
that it I guess it comes down to

2542
01:26:57,175 --> 01:26:59,460
whether we think they want it to be

2543
01:26:59,859 --> 01:27:01,619
appear want it to appear as if they

2544
01:27:01,619 --> 01:27:03,779
won or not in a long term sense.

2545
01:27:03,779 --> 01:27:05,779
Right? So if they want the, the the

2546
01:27:05,779 --> 01:27:08,180
people to think that Trump and his team

2547
01:27:08,180 --> 01:27:10,100
are succeeding in their mission, then I think,

2548
01:27:10,100 --> 01:27:11,699
yeah, it makes sense to have RFK be

2549
01:27:11,699 --> 01:27:12,979
a part of that. Or but if they

2550
01:27:12,979 --> 01:27:14,774
want them to feel that they are the

2551
01:27:14,854 --> 01:27:16,694
still under the attack of the democrats, which

2552
01:27:16,854 --> 01:27:18,694
that's where my mind kinda goes, where it's

2553
01:27:18,694 --> 01:27:20,854
about constructing this illusion that they're still under

2554
01:27:20,854 --> 01:27:23,335
the fight to so which will drive more

2555
01:27:23,335 --> 01:27:25,814
support into the final stage. Right? But I

2556
01:27:25,814 --> 01:27:27,414
guess that's the endpoint. And either way, it

2557
01:27:27,414 --> 01:27:28,614
still seems to be going in the same

2558
01:27:28,614 --> 01:27:30,869
direction. I do see a positive RFK in

2559
01:27:30,869 --> 01:27:32,390
there for some of the policies, like, Catherine's

2560
01:27:32,390 --> 01:27:34,149
saying that I think are obviously good in

2561
01:27:34,149 --> 01:27:35,670
a lot of ways. But I just I

2562
01:27:35,670 --> 01:27:37,430
have that concern. I guess, we'll just have

2563
01:27:37,430 --> 01:27:38,630
to wait and see how this plays out.

2564
01:27:38,630 --> 01:27:39,829
I think there's a a lot of good

2565
01:27:39,829 --> 01:27:41,864
things that were discussed today. I think it's

2566
01:27:42,025 --> 01:27:44,105
it's gonna come down to January 20th forward

2567
01:27:44,105 --> 01:27:46,425
and what actually rolls out, who's actually tapped,

2568
01:27:46,425 --> 01:27:48,744
whether the confirmations are actually there. We have

2569
01:27:48,744 --> 01:27:50,105
a while till we see what's really going

2570
01:27:50,105 --> 01:27:52,265
on. So We haven't even touched on the

2571
01:27:52,265 --> 01:27:53,805
idea they pull some

2572
01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:57,079
democrat version of January 6th yet or something

2573
01:27:57,079 --> 01:27:58,119
like that. I mean, there's a lot of

2574
01:27:58,119 --> 01:27:59,899
big things that could happen in that time.

2575
01:27:59,960 --> 01:28:01,719
Yeah. Good point. That's actually a really good

2576
01:28:01,719 --> 01:28:03,159
point that we don't know what will happen

2577
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:05,479
between then. There's just weird limbo period that

2578
01:28:05,479 --> 01:28:07,604
always happens where if it's good right now,

2579
01:28:07,604 --> 01:28:08,885
Trump somehow tries to grab it and make

2580
01:28:08,885 --> 01:28:10,164
it his even though he's not in power.

2581
01:28:10,164 --> 01:28:11,684
If it's bad, it's, you know, by it's

2582
01:28:11,684 --> 01:28:13,444
like this weird time frame where if it's

2583
01:28:13,444 --> 01:28:15,045
bad, it's still Biden even though usually they

2584
01:28:15,045 --> 01:28:16,324
claim that he's not in power at all.

2585
01:28:16,324 --> 01:28:18,324
You know, it's like this everyone points it

2586
01:28:18,324 --> 01:28:20,350
to somebody else. I kinda feel like the

2587
01:28:20,350 --> 01:28:22,590
democrat version of January 6th would be a

2588
01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:24,590
bunch of liberals showing up and then trying

2589
01:28:24,590 --> 01:28:26,270
to get the capitol police to go in

2590
01:28:26,270 --> 01:28:27,409
and drag Trump out.

2591
01:28:29,869 --> 01:28:31,149
I don't know if I don't feel like

2592
01:28:31,149 --> 01:28:32,670
that. I don't even feel like they would,

2593
01:28:32,670 --> 01:28:34,744
like, take a podium or anything. Well, what

2594
01:28:34,784 --> 01:28:36,545
what's I I get that the joke is

2595
01:28:36,545 --> 01:28:38,145
well taken, but I think what's interesting though

2596
01:28:38,145 --> 01:28:40,305
is that it would ultimately amount to the

2597
01:28:40,305 --> 01:28:41,744
same thing it was last time, which I

2598
01:28:41,744 --> 01:28:44,064
argue were not a bunch of Republicans going

2599
01:28:44,064 --> 01:28:45,585
crazy. Right? I think there was I was

2600
01:28:45,585 --> 01:28:47,685
there. I get I know what I saw.

2601
01:28:47,744 --> 01:28:51,060
Yeah. You know? And it definitely wasn't that.

2602
01:28:51,199 --> 01:28:52,500
It definitely wasn't.

2603
01:28:53,039 --> 01:28:54,960
So, again, the Well, it could be the

2604
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:56,480
same idea. Right? Where you just have another

2605
01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,800
a bunch of masked people that are FBI

2606
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,000
agents for all we know, and it just

2607
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:01,715
becomes some, you know, the point is it's

2608
01:29:01,715 --> 01:29:02,914
all up in the air. And that's a

2609
01:29:02,914 --> 01:29:04,354
great point to consider that we don't know

2610
01:29:04,354 --> 01:29:06,274
how it would play. Alex Jones is floating

2611
01:29:06,274 --> 01:29:08,675
that the deep the deep straight deep state

2612
01:29:08,675 --> 01:29:10,755
democrats are planning some kind of a we're

2613
01:29:10,755 --> 01:29:12,755
gonna stop him from taking power which by

2614
01:29:12,755 --> 01:29:14,789
the way wouldn't be that surprising. But I

2615
01:29:14,789 --> 01:29:16,149
don't know. Again, it comes down to whether

2616
01:29:16,149 --> 01:29:17,909
it wants to appear as if he has

2617
01:29:17,909 --> 01:29:19,829
succeeded in all this and now they're gonna

2618
01:29:19,829 --> 01:29:21,989
just blindly accept whatever goes forward or whether

2619
01:29:21,989 --> 01:29:24,069
they want more push to drive it forward.

2620
01:29:24,229 --> 01:29:25,510
It's up in the air or maybe we're

2621
01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:27,030
all wrong and this thing we've already been

2622
01:29:27,030 --> 01:29:28,470
saved and we're all happy now, you know.

2623
01:29:28,470 --> 01:29:30,835
So, who actually knows? But, that's a good

2624
01:29:30,835 --> 01:29:32,514
place to pin it in general. I really

2625
01:29:32,514 --> 01:29:34,675
appreciate these kind of conversations. Go ahead. We're

2626
01:29:34,675 --> 01:29:36,935
all gonna look really ridiculous when it's 2035

2627
01:29:37,074 --> 01:29:38,755
and we're all living in Musk's space cities

2628
01:29:38,755 --> 01:29:39,895
and everything's fine.

2629
01:29:41,074 --> 01:29:43,154
I really hope that's not the case. It's

2630
01:29:43,154 --> 01:29:45,289
a terrifying future. But I think we should

2631
01:29:45,289 --> 01:29:47,050
eventually have more of a direct panel on

2632
01:29:47,050 --> 01:29:49,369
the idea of the technocratic overlap, the kind

2633
01:29:49,369 --> 01:29:50,350
of freedom city,

2634
01:29:50,729 --> 01:29:53,609
Prospera, technocrat kind of overlap of all this,

2635
01:29:53,609 --> 01:29:55,210
which I don't know about you guys, but

2636
01:29:55,210 --> 01:29:56,895
I really see the fingerprints that kind of

2637
01:29:56,895 --> 01:29:58,494
that's poking out all over the place where

2638
01:29:58,494 --> 01:30:00,975
it's got a sidestep of power into some

2639
01:30:00,975 --> 01:30:02,835
kind of a technocrat driven mindset.

2640
01:30:03,135 --> 01:30:04,574
I I think that's where this all goes,

2641
01:30:04,574 --> 01:30:06,895
but that's, for another conversation, I think. But

2642
01:30:06,895 --> 01:30:08,335
anything else you guys wanna leave us with

2643
01:30:08,335 --> 01:30:10,194
on the way out? Anybody have final thoughts?

2644
01:30:12,449 --> 01:30:13,430
No. It's fantastic.

2645
01:30:13,890 --> 01:30:15,570
Yeah. I I really enjoyed the conversation, guys.

2646
01:30:15,570 --> 01:30:17,250
Thank you. And there's plenty more to come

2647
01:30:17,250 --> 01:30:17,750
here.

2648
01:30:18,050 --> 01:30:19,909
Thank you so much for doing this.

2649
01:30:20,210 --> 01:30:22,210
Thank you. Thank you, Catherine, Kit, Steve, for

2650
01:30:22,289 --> 01:30:25,010
and and Vork and and, and, Derek and

2651
01:30:25,010 --> 01:30:26,764
everybody else that, you know, will be coming

2652
01:30:26,764 --> 01:30:28,444
to the new the upcoming panels and so

2653
01:30:28,444 --> 01:30:30,444
on. I do have one, notification on the

2654
01:30:30,444 --> 01:30:32,284
way out that I think the last insight

2655
01:30:32,284 --> 01:30:34,604
we got from Odysee was, the new, the

2656
01:30:34,604 --> 01:30:36,444
next update will be coming probably the beginning

2657
01:30:36,444 --> 01:30:38,125
of January. A little bit further out than

2658
01:30:38,125 --> 01:30:38,704
I wanted,

2659
01:30:39,085 --> 01:30:41,229
but still coming up soon. So that looks

2660
01:30:41,229 --> 01:30:43,550
like after Christmas, we'll be getting, hopefully, the

2661
01:30:43,550 --> 01:30:45,949
new IMA website, which will be more of

2662
01:30:45,949 --> 01:30:47,550
this. We'll be funding through there. So but

2663
01:30:47,550 --> 01:30:50,109
lots more panels and interesting conversations coming your

2664
01:30:50,109 --> 01:30:51,550
way. So we'll leave it there. Thank you

2665
01:30:51,550 --> 01:30:53,630
all for joining today. And And everybody have

2666
01:30:53,630 --> 01:30:56,814
a merry Christmas. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Before then,

2667
01:30:56,814 --> 01:30:58,435
have a merry Christmas. And,

2668
01:30:58,814 --> 01:31:00,335
leave it out with my tagline. As always,

2669
01:31:00,335 --> 01:31:02,594
everybody question everything, come to your own conclusions.

2670
01:31:02,814 --> 01:31:03,554
Stay vigilant.