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who were suffering or had family members who

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had died from rare illnesses.

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was a theory

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that the source of these rare illnesses

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was a local army base called Fort Detrick

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and some of the secret activities that have

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been going on there for decades.

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I lived on Elm Street and on the

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just counting the 6 houses,

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everyone had cancer. So my daughter,

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at the age of 28 years old, was

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diagnosed with brain cancer. Then my second daughter

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tumors in her womb,

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and he said that this was not genetic,

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and dies a year later after that.

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cancer victims right now just in a one

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mile radius. I'll be quite honest with you.

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It's changed my life so radically. Sometimes I

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people in a 1 mile radius.

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And what's causing so much sickness?

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It turns out all these victims have one

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thing in common. They live next to a

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military base called Fort Detrick.

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In historic Frederick, Maryland

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are the biological warfare laboratories.

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The volunteers have been positioned on the outside

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of the test sphere in which a cloud

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of biological warfare agent can be generated. In

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Fort Detrick was added to the EPA's Superfund

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priority list, making area b located here, one

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of the most polluted places in the nation,

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just across the street from this crowded neighborhood.

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Right. We don't drink our tap water. Who

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told you, that you couldn't drink? Nobody said

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you're not allowed to, but it's kind of

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like, known thing in my neighborhood that we

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don't drink the tap water. And why is

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For because we know there's chemicals there.

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show dedicated to bringing you the most relevant

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Sunday, November 17, 2024.

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I know I said I was gonna get

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in some foreign policy on the next show,

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and I absolutely will continue to cover all

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As I was thinking before I was going

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live, I don't think I'll ever stop covering

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the story that exists around Israel and Palestine

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because I don't think this will ever be

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a story that stops being relevant to what

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we're living through in the world today.

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I may be proven wrong with that. I

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hope I am, but I think that's where

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we are. My point is that's not gonna

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be what I discussed today. I pride myself

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over the years of trusting my gut,

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especially when it's something that just I just

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can't get out of my whether it's about

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the nanotechnology

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discussion we've had, which I still stand by

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that being way ahead of its time and

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something which we'll be looking to as we

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go further, possibly even in the next 4

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But today, something stuck in my mind around

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the docs and conversation.

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One of many,

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I'm just as seems there always are examples

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of fires. There's another recent fire in Bakersfield

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over the last week, California.

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made me dive into this today. It was

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deeper connective point to this story.

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the overlapping with Georgia,

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tie tie back to East Palestine, and a

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larger conversation around how I think this fits

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with that clip that as you remember, that's

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a clip that talks about Fort Detrick in

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not even really it it it the and

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even the documentary doesn't get into,

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like, provable specifics about, like, let's say, what

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are the chemicals in the water or what

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is it exactly. But more so just the

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idea that the experimentation,

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whether that's with pathogens

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military uses,

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burn pits, and whatever else we've talked it's

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a very common thing to see around military

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bases that there's pollution like this.

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conversation because Fort Detrick is a central BSL

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once I don't I'm gonna say it wrong.

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I'm sure. Off the top of my head,

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it was something ridiculous, and this is coming

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directly from Fort Detrick information.

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it it was so it was leaks or

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or disasters or things that got let out

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somehow once every so many weeks for so

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many years straight? And, I mean, it's mind

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blowing to think about when you're talking about

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high level things. BSO 4, if you remember

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the conversation during COVID 19, being the highest

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level lab they have working on the most

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dangerous pathogens

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or whatever you wanna discuss them working on.

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that that happens so frequently.

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and and that the our argument about how

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that happened and ultimately tying it back to

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the the base itself or the swine flu

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conversation, I play that clip often, that ties

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back to for dicks. All these different conversations.

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consider, and I do think there's a relevant

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point around that. But what I'm pointing at

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today is just to consider it a different

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in a casual conversation, they just don't drink

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the water around this base. Or what about

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military bases? I'm willing to bet you if

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you if you look into the surrounding areas

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to a lot of these bases that you're

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gonna find a lot of these byproducts.

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is something that if you follow on this

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platform, this channel, that we've talked about a

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lot. And that is the very, very obvious,

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unquestionable risk of dioxins

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discussing, how they're gonna deal with it, the

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rising problem that just kind of vanished in

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direction. But as I understand it, as you

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this conversation, it's very clear that they got

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this. That even the incineration,

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to 1100 degrees, does not actually deal with

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dioxins. And there's arguments that say the highest

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we can get with these incinerators

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do not actually remove dioxins. Now, that that's

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debated between different levels. But I'm gonna show

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an interesting evolution of this conversation. We've talked

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about the CNN article from 1995, which I'll

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point to again today. But going to one

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a conversation from 1994 and before,

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highlighting this weird debate that was going on

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between the New York Times and different, where

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despite it being acknowledged this was a real

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problem that we all acknowledge as a risk

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that we have to deal with, suddenly you

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got mainstream articles that came out and said,

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wait a minute.

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It's not dangerous at all. Turns out it's

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just like sunbathing a little bit more.

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true today. And even the person that wrote

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those articles and you know, we'll go through

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all this. Turns out they were sort of

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admitted that wasn't true. The bottom line is

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where did that come from? As this is

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the point of the article we'll get to,

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they're going where did that come from? Who

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either pressured or influenced

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the New York Times to put this out

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to causing this debate going forward? Now, again,

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the expert speaking to CNN made it clear

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that this was 100 of times the the

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the safe level in your food today, in

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the big macs, in KFC you're eating, let

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alone the soil and in your body, which

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is also part of this problem.

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were going, but the chlorine company said that

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it wasn't that dangerous, or we need to

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research it. We can't just blame one thing

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and remove all of them. And I can

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prove to you that since that point, this

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has only got worse. And I'll show you

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the studies that make that exact statement, that

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in the US and Europe, this problem has

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only gotten worse. And I'll show you an

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article we covered during East Palestine from Stephen

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from The Guardian,

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where he makes the explicit point, and this

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is the same thing I'm saying today, that

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the reason that they were refusing to test

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for dioxins, which I'm gonna show you a

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statement from Scott C. Smith today where I

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reached out to him this morning and asked

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him for any update on the the studies,

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and the main thing he says is that

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the EPA is refusing

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to test for dioxins,

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just like he's Palestine.

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Now why would that be? Knowing that and

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I'll prove to you for the umpteenth time

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that EPA is aware of this, knowing that

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this is the most dangerous thing that will

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absolutely be a byproduct of exactly what they're

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dealing with, and yet not only not acknowledging

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it, not testing for it, not doing anything

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to keep people safe. Why is that? Again,

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Steve, unless you're making the point that this

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is because they know it's there,

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they know it's damn near ubiquitous, and they

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don't know what to do about it. Now

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really think about what that means.

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look at it from a first political dynamic.

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I tend to see them all as the

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government but left right kind of idea where

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you change administration. Now whether it's left or

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right or just the government, you do change

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people and positions. Right? So as the new

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people come in and the old people go

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out, you step into what the problem the

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problem. So a new EPA head steps in

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and goes, okay. Wait a minute. Look at

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all this dangerous stuff. And it turns out

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we don't even know what to do about

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it. Now are you gonna jump in and

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go, guess what? Here's a huge problem you're

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all suffering from. You didn't even know, and

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I don't know what to do about it.

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Do you really think your government's gonna do

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that? Now, I don't know the in in

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I can't prove that's what's exactly happening, the

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logic of why. But I can prove the

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problem exists. I can prove they know about

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it. I can prove that nobody is even

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choosing to bring it up when you know

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and they know it is the main problem

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that we're talking about.

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I it's it's alarming to me. Now the

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standing back point is how does this interconnect

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with everything else? Because I've been really racking

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my brain about what this means.

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Is this something that's just a random byproduct

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like I just kind of described but they

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just don't know what to do and they're

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like a glyphosate which, again, I kinda see

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these things all interconnecting but that maybe it's

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just a side thing. They don't know what

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to do with and they don't wanna take

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the brunt from letting you know they screwed

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you over. It's too bad. We don't want

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to do. Now it's too late, and so

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now it's just your life.

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But I'm starting to see more and more

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how this interconnects with different things. Now I'm

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not even talking about, like, a level one

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conversation about

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reaping the profit from creating illness that they

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can then you know how that goes. Now,

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that's more abstract. We're talking about big pharma

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and different layers of government. It's not just

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the government.

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But deeper than that, even more so, talking

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about the way that this can be used

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for experimentation,

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for any number of different things. Now, the

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where we're going to today

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is a clip that was shared with share

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Shannon Joy and Catherine Austin Fitts, something she

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actually discussed in an interview we recently had

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in the studio, which is that this is

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there is a conversation to be had about

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whether or not certain power structures are trying

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to

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subtly reduce the lifespan

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of the population

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for the interest of purely financial benefit, but

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also a lot darker conversations. Now I'm not

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gonna say that I think that's exactly what

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this is. Maybe one part of it. But

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I just wanted to throw out something new

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to the conversation for you to consider.

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Knowing that we don't know for exactly why

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this is being ignored,

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one of the re one of the many

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possibilities from somebody that I highly respect of

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why any number of these things might be

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happening, Whether it is and, again, I don't

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it doesn't have to be a deliberate,

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willful action to make this hurt people, but

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more so that it's something that has been

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allowed to get worse, to fester because of

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our corrupted system. And now it's going, okay.

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Well, maybe we can lean into this. And

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we've seen the burning of food supply chain

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discussions of meat factories. There's all sorts of

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different things that tie around to this. But

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today is just to focus on these recent

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events and the docs themselves.

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And we're gonna go over some studies that

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make it very clear that they know about

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it, that they know how seriously damaging this

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is, and that what it ultimately creates is

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a circumstance where nobody can really point a

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finger at anybody. Or you you end up

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with cancer and immune issues and deformities and

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all sorts of things that dramatically lead to

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the lessening of your lifespan and your children

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and your children's children. We're talking about a

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long term

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lifespan. Because realize, in

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the body, the half life is much longer

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in women, by the way, but 7 years

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or so for men. I think it was

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something like 17 or I will get to

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it in the in the articles for women.

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But in the soil,

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it lasts decades.

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Half life.

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Meaning that this stuff continues to be and

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we've gone over the the air

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transfer from from the United States and Canada

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and North America into the Arctic Canada locations.

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And we're talking about long term transition of

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these dioxins in the air traveling thousands of

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miles as even seen and acknowledged

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and having a dangerous level in the breast

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milk of women in Arctic Canada. And we're

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not gonna consider what that source that can

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make them suffer is doing to the people

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that live in the town next to it.

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I just don't know how it's possible we

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can't have these conversations

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unless this is being willfully covered up, and

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then you can decide why that might be.

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So let's go through all this information today,

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and, hopefully, this can trigger a conversation.

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More people can start talking about this and

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start holding their feet to the fire until

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more honest people that have that see the

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problem, but they have bigger things on their

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plate start going, okay. Wait a minute. I'm

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I'm at the lower rung of the EPA,

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and I can recognize this being more. Speak

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up.

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Call it out. Acknowledge that this is not

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being dealt with and acknowledge the long term

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consequences of doing that. And even more so,

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if you know why that might be done,

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if it's more than just simple malfeasance, then

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say something. It's important that we start finding

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the courage to call these things out because

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whether it's that your job is in this

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or that you're in a partisan side of

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this, people are willing more than I've ever

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seen to kind of ignore dangerous things right

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now because they think that it's somehow I

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mean, really, we're like living in a embodiment

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of the lesser of evils dynamic. Everything everyone's

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doing is somehow like, well, it's bad but

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this might be worse. So it it just

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kills me how often that happens. Now there's

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one more thing I'll say to start, and

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that is that

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one thing I keep seeing a lot of

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is that we see these problems, whether that's

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the vaccination conversation, whether that is the dioxin

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issue, whether that's glyphosate, whether that's any number

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of things, whether that's foreign policy, Zionism,

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that what's what's crazy is we've gotten this

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weird kind of partisan dynamic, and I see

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it in this country more than anything, where

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we can point out a problem. Objectively, all

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agree that a problem is present. Yes. We

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see it. That's happening. And until somebody can

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go, well, here's the solution for it, it's

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as if we have to ignore the problem.

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And we all bump up against this. So

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we go, okay. Well, this is an issue.

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Lesser of evils, for example, during the election.

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We all can acknowledge that doesn't really make

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sense.

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And then what do we do then? Well,

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I you can decide. I'm not sure. And

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the point is that mindset becomes, oh, okay.

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Well, then if there's nothing you can provide,

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then I'm gonna go back to square 1.

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And this is some sort of mental construct

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that I can't it's,

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I don't know, brainwashing?

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I don't understand how we can remove ourselves

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from the problem. And this is what I

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see in this kind of conversation, is that

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we're almost kind of overwhelmed with how much

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is going on that we don't wanna address

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the problem.

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Step 1 is acknowledging it exists before we

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even begin to try to solve it. Just

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because someone does not have a solving

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a a solution to a problem being presented

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does not mean that you should disregard the

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problem. I think that sounds pretty simple and

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obvious, but it's happening a lot today. So

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before we get into everything else, actually, I

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I I think I showed this the other

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day.

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I can't remember. Either way, if I didn't,

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I just there's a new shirt on our

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big frog side of the of the,

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clothings. We have a few things on the

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big frog and still the some are remnants

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on the true clothing before that goes away,

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which more will end up on this site.

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But we just added this one, which is

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Vincent Umina Veritas, which means

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oh, I I do remember now that I

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did bring this up, but truth conquers all

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things. And I think it's just a cool

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idea for, you know, where we're going right

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now in the world. And I think this

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is it's almost like the, you know, irritating

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objectivity, like, the idea of being that truth

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and principles and found a you know, and

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holding true to that and not letting it

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waver based on anything else, I think, is

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a pair an important thing for today. So

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I'll include that link for you. Now, before

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we get into the main point, which is

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the only thing we're getting into today is

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dioxins, is the I wanna highlight something about

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fluoride that kind of overlaps with this.

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This was 2 days ago or 3 days

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ago, and it says haver Winter Haven Commissioners.

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So I'm it just, this is in

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Florida. Is that what it's

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it FLA Florida?

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Yeah.

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That's interesting. I feel like I should know

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that, but I feel like FLA doesn't make

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sense. Anyway, there's some weird abbreviations in the

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in the states and everything else. But anyway,

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so the point is in Winter Haven in

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Florida, commissioners vote to remove fluoride from water,

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citing RFK Junior. Now, 1st and foremost, guys,

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that's a good thing,

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obviously.

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Like, no matter what else is going on,

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no matter what whether this one thing is

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some massive scam to get you to believe

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everything else, which part of me thinks there's

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more to that than we know. It is

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still an objectively good thing. That that they're

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ultimately doing that, whoever they cite, that they're

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recognizing that fluoride is dangerous whether or not

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it's only because RFK said so or not,

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that they're choosing to remove it. This is

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a positive thing even if it's on the

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back of something negative. And I just wanna

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point that out that this is something we

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should be very proud about,

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not because RFK said so, whether or not

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he has good intentions, but because people like

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you are the reason this is being discussed.

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Not because RFK brought it up. It's It's

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because of people like Michael Conant and the

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fluoride action network and people like Derrick Brose

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and the long term

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relentless effort over years and multiple reviews of

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the National National Toxicology Program report, which has

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been there for a decade, but we know

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is dangerous. Remember, the main point that I

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was making in this discussion is the government

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has been fighting well more than a decade,

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but since this has been public, since the

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NTP has their report that says dangerous,

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your government from multiple agencies, pretty much all

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of them, CDC, EPA, FDA, they're fighting to

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maintain, to keep something that they know is

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a neurotoxin in your water.

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That's just earth shattering. That should wake everybody

531
00:18:11,695 --> 00:18:12,195
up.

532
00:18:12,575 --> 00:18:14,575
There's no way to misunderstand that story. They're

533
00:18:14,575 --> 00:18:16,174
still, at this point, fighting to sort of

534
00:18:16,174 --> 00:18:18,434
maneuver to keep this in your water. Anyway,

535
00:18:19,049 --> 00:18:21,230
the point is you are responsible for this.

536
00:18:21,450 --> 00:18:23,630
Everybody out there that's been fighting to force

537
00:18:24,169 --> 00:18:26,409
corporate media, everybody else to acknowledge this story,

538
00:18:26,409 --> 00:18:27,929
that's a win for you. But the one

539
00:18:27,929 --> 00:18:29,389
thing irks me about this

540
00:18:29,690 --> 00:18:31,755
is remember and, again, that's why I kinda

541
00:18:31,755 --> 00:18:33,035
think that this is a government. This is

542
00:18:33,035 --> 00:18:35,035
just the opportunism of the government, which is

543
00:18:35,035 --> 00:18:36,555
usually how I chalk up most of the

544
00:18:36,555 --> 00:18:38,315
positive steps. I know I'm a pessimist when

545
00:18:38,315 --> 00:18:40,075
it comes to government. My point is that

546
00:18:40,075 --> 00:18:42,154
why wouldn't they what does it take RFK

547
00:18:42,154 --> 00:18:44,475
Junior saying this out loud for commissioners that

548
00:18:44,475 --> 00:18:46,174
have no better to do this?

549
00:18:46,490 --> 00:18:48,410
Which whatever the reason, yes, I'm still saying

550
00:18:48,410 --> 00:18:50,330
that's a good thing regardless of why, but

551
00:18:50,330 --> 00:18:52,250
it it frustrates me when you can have

552
00:18:52,250 --> 00:18:53,950
peer reviewed science going back decades.

553
00:18:54,410 --> 00:18:55,769
These people are supposed to be looking at

554
00:18:55,769 --> 00:18:57,369
this stuff. They're not supposed to just blindly

555
00:18:57,369 --> 00:19:00,009
follow orders from their above their whether CDC

556
00:19:00,009 --> 00:19:01,795
or not. They're supposed to be making choices

557
00:19:01,795 --> 00:19:03,315
that are in the health in the direction

558
00:19:03,315 --> 00:19:05,255
of the health for their their their constituents.

559
00:19:05,875 --> 00:19:07,475
So it is kind of frustrating that it

560
00:19:07,475 --> 00:19:09,555
takes RFK just saying it or them citing

561
00:19:09,555 --> 00:19:11,634
him saying it for them to acknowledge what

562
00:19:11,634 --> 00:19:14,455
has been transparently evident, which RFK points to,

563
00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:16,599
for decades. You see my point in that?

564
00:19:16,599 --> 00:19:18,279
So it's kinda frustrating. This is the society

565
00:19:18,279 --> 00:19:20,279
we live in where the actual facts are

566
00:19:20,279 --> 00:19:22,700
less important than an icon that says them.

567
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:24,680
You see my point? And I think that's

568
00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:25,960
important that we try to change that, and

569
00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,704
I think we're all doing that. Either way,

570
00:19:28,105 --> 00:19:28,605
fantastic,

571
00:19:29,065 --> 00:19:31,304
important, and good news that people are beginning

572
00:19:31,304 --> 00:19:32,904
to make these changes. But so fluoride has

573
00:19:32,904 --> 00:19:35,244
been in your water your entire life,

574
00:19:35,865 --> 00:19:37,085
and it is a neurotoxin.

575
00:19:37,544 --> 00:19:40,505
Now I'll cite the fluoride trial link that

576
00:19:40,505 --> 00:19:42,265
we have that Derek has been just doing

577
00:19:42,265 --> 00:19:44,240
great work going back a year plus. More

578
00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,359
than that, if you look at his his,

579
00:19:45,519 --> 00:19:47,679
conscious resistance as well. And this is the

580
00:19:47,679 --> 00:19:48,659
very last one.

581
00:19:49,039 --> 00:19:51,139
This is from September 26, 2024.

582
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,940
Federal judge rules fluoride is a neurotoxin

583
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,025
in historic lawsuit. Very simple. There's no misinformation

584
00:19:57,085 --> 00:19:58,525
there. It's very easy. The links are all

585
00:19:58,525 --> 00:20:00,204
in there for you. And there there's a

586
00:20:00,204 --> 00:20:01,804
whole bunch going back where he's been covering

587
00:20:01,804 --> 00:20:03,644
this. I've been interviewing about it. Going back

588
00:20:03,644 --> 00:20:04,464
a long way.

589
00:20:04,845 --> 00:20:05,964
So if you wanna get caught up I

590
00:20:05,964 --> 00:20:07,244
mean, so you can see down here, there

591
00:20:07,244 --> 00:20:07,744
are

592
00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,440
5 pages of of just this topic for

593
00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:13,500
the fluoride trial.

594
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:15,400
Get caught up in what's been happening, very

595
00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:16,680
least check out the last one so you

596
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,240
know, and that's why it's happening. Even still,

597
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,099
you've got ridiculous corporate media

598
00:20:21,855 --> 00:20:23,375
coming out there making fun of this like

599
00:20:23,375 --> 00:20:25,775
he's a conspiracy theorist. Like, obviously, we should

600
00:20:25,775 --> 00:20:27,214
get fluoride out of our water when we

601
00:20:27,214 --> 00:20:29,214
know that it's dangerous, or obviously, we should

602
00:20:29,214 --> 00:20:31,694
be discussing the risks of vaccination that we

603
00:20:31,694 --> 00:20:33,950
know about and the obvious peer reviewed science

604
00:20:33,950 --> 00:20:35,789
that show links to autism. Yes. This is

605
00:20:35,789 --> 00:20:38,450
all very easy and obvious despite the ridiculous

606
00:20:38,750 --> 00:20:41,230
reflexive dismissal of white people on CNN talking

607
00:20:41,230 --> 00:20:44,029
to Howard Ludvig. Vaccines don't cause autism. Rate

608
00:20:44,029 --> 00:20:46,109
journalism, guys. Despite the fact that there is

609
00:20:46,109 --> 00:20:48,029
obviously a link, we can dispute. You get

610
00:20:48,029 --> 00:20:49,089
it. The point is

611
00:20:49,585 --> 00:20:51,424
information is present that shows that we know

612
00:20:51,424 --> 00:20:53,184
these things are something to be discussed. I

613
00:20:53,184 --> 00:20:54,785
would argue much more than that, but just

614
00:20:54,785 --> 00:20:56,325
to make it objective for everybody.

615
00:20:56,705 --> 00:20:57,985
And these are all good things that are

616
00:20:57,985 --> 00:20:59,585
happening because of things he's saying, but we

617
00:20:59,585 --> 00:21:01,505
should already be doing this stuff because the

618
00:21:01,505 --> 00:21:02,725
evidence has been there.

619
00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:05,880
But speaking of fluoride in general, we're talking

620
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,240
about something that has been put in your

621
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:07,740
water

622
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:09,339
and that is a neurotoxin.

623
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,559
So consider this on the bigger discussion. So

624
00:21:11,559 --> 00:21:12,619
if we can recognize

625
00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,960
that the US government has made conscious decisions

626
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,355
to make to make it happen, which remember

627
00:21:18,355 --> 00:21:19,734
the joke, which is horrifying,

628
00:21:20,035 --> 00:21:21,335
is that if they weren't

629
00:21:21,875 --> 00:21:23,634
you putting it in your water, the people

630
00:21:23,634 --> 00:21:25,634
that have the who produce that, which is

631
00:21:25,634 --> 00:21:26,375
a byproduct

632
00:21:26,835 --> 00:21:29,494
of all sorts of things, industrial and otherwise,

633
00:21:29,954 --> 00:21:32,299
that they would have to pay to dispose

634
00:21:32,299 --> 00:21:33,440
of it. Instead,

635
00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:35,980
they get paid to put this in your

636
00:21:35,980 --> 00:21:37,259
water, or rather they buy and put it

637
00:21:37,259 --> 00:21:39,019
in your water. That's wild to think about.

638
00:21:39,019 --> 00:21:40,700
So your government made a conscious choice to

639
00:21:40,700 --> 00:21:42,299
put something dangerous in your water, and you

640
00:21:42,299 --> 00:21:44,375
can get into there's all sorts of conversations

641
00:21:44,375 --> 00:21:45,974
to have about the penile gland and what

642
00:21:45,974 --> 00:21:47,914
it does to this and the deeper modulation

643
00:21:47,974 --> 00:21:49,835
of consciousness. These are not fake conversations,

644
00:21:50,214 --> 00:21:52,615
but they're deep for some people. The bottom

645
00:21:52,615 --> 00:21:53,115
line

646
00:21:53,575 --> 00:21:55,335
is that this is something you have to

647
00:21:55,335 --> 00:21:56,855
factor in when we're talking about the docs

648
00:21:56,855 --> 00:21:57,515
and conversation.

649
00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,380
The willingness to ignore a problem, the willingness

650
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,359
to use it against you. Now you it

651
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:04,039
may be that they first thought, floral, I

652
00:22:04,039 --> 00:22:05,559
was right for you. I don't think that.

653
00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,559
But in the context of today's story, the

654
00:22:07,559 --> 00:22:09,159
point is that it doesn't have to always

655
00:22:09,159 --> 00:22:11,000
be a planned long term. It could be

656
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,125
something that turned out to be something they

657
00:22:13,125 --> 00:22:15,125
discovered, realized they couldn't deal with it. Instead

658
00:22:15,125 --> 00:22:17,365
of being an honest entity and saying, we

659
00:22:17,365 --> 00:22:19,285
have a problem. Let's get the best minds

660
00:22:19,285 --> 00:22:21,045
in the country to not know. They just

661
00:22:21,045 --> 00:22:22,404
sweep it under the rug and kick it

662
00:22:22,404 --> 00:22:24,005
down to the next administration or however you

663
00:22:24,005 --> 00:22:25,065
wanna look at it.

664
00:22:25,500 --> 00:22:26,240
Same thing.

665
00:22:26,539 --> 00:22:28,460
So there's a precedent right here for fluoride

666
00:22:28,460 --> 00:22:29,740
for why this is not that hard to

667
00:22:29,740 --> 00:22:31,980
wrap your mind around in allowing this to

668
00:22:31,980 --> 00:22:33,820
be such a problem that it's just there's

669
00:22:33,820 --> 00:22:35,420
no going back. I make the point about

670
00:22:35,420 --> 00:22:36,640
glyphosate all the time.

671
00:22:36,940 --> 00:22:38,960
If you truly understand the depths,

672
00:22:39,285 --> 00:22:40,965
the breadth of what glyph

673
00:22:42,085 --> 00:22:43,924
imagine the world being dipped in a vat

674
00:22:43,924 --> 00:22:45,525
of glyphosate. I mean, that's a little bit

675
00:22:45,525 --> 00:22:47,924
extreme, but that's where we are. There's no

676
00:22:47,924 --> 00:22:49,525
going back for what has happened in my

677
00:22:49,525 --> 00:22:52,470
opinion other than very long term I mean,

678
00:22:52,470 --> 00:22:54,069
because realize this stuff is in everything and

679
00:22:54,069 --> 00:22:55,669
that these studies are there. I've done many

680
00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:57,190
shows on this. And the clothes you're wearing,

681
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:59,049
in the air, in the food you're eating,

682
00:22:59,190 --> 00:23:00,950
they did a urine test in the UK

683
00:23:00,950 --> 00:23:02,470
a while ago and every one of them

684
00:23:02,470 --> 00:23:04,470
had glyphosate in their urine. They tested organic

685
00:23:04,470 --> 00:23:06,309
wines in Napa Valley and every one of

686
00:23:06,309 --> 00:23:08,945
them had glyphosate. That's not organic anymore. But

687
00:23:08,945 --> 00:23:10,384
they just, of course, moved the needle so

688
00:23:10,384 --> 00:23:12,465
we can pretend they're still organic. This is

689
00:23:12,465 --> 00:23:14,384
the cons this is the fake reality that

690
00:23:14,384 --> 00:23:16,625
we live in. So keeping all of this

691
00:23:16,625 --> 00:23:18,545
in mind, again, with the idea about the

692
00:23:18,545 --> 00:23:19,205
the problem,

693
00:23:19,660 --> 00:23:22,619
right, where we're highlighting a very clear problem.

694
00:23:22,619 --> 00:23:24,460
So whether or not we can immediately decide

695
00:23:24,460 --> 00:23:26,220
how to solve that problem, we have to

696
00:23:26,220 --> 00:23:28,220
be clear that it's important to understand that

697
00:23:28,220 --> 00:23:28,960
it exists.

698
00:23:29,500 --> 00:23:31,920
Now I'll include some of the recent conversations.

699
00:23:32,059 --> 00:23:32,880
Oh, it's weird.

700
00:23:33,900 --> 00:23:35,954
Forgot to line this up. For those in

701
00:23:35,954 --> 00:23:37,255
the podcast, doesn't matter.

702
00:23:38,035 --> 00:23:39,954
So this is the show from 13th August

703
00:23:40,115 --> 00:23:42,994
October, excuse me, Conyers, Georgia, BioLab fire. And

704
00:23:42,994 --> 00:23:44,434
remember, for those who don't remember, this is

705
00:23:44,434 --> 00:23:46,994
BioLab is the company's name, not necessarily a

706
00:23:46,994 --> 00:23:49,315
biological laboratory at least as we're told. It

707
00:23:49,315 --> 00:23:51,174
makes most mainly chlorinated products.

708
00:23:51,950 --> 00:23:53,950
The fire, as according to Scott c Smith,

709
00:23:53,950 --> 00:23:55,869
could be the greatest acts of disaster in

710
00:23:55,869 --> 00:23:57,950
history. Again, to wrap that up quickly, the

711
00:23:57,950 --> 00:23:59,170
point is that there were,

712
00:24:00,109 --> 00:24:01,089
around £2,000,000

713
00:24:02,269 --> 00:24:04,109
of chlorinated compounds that were burned in East

714
00:24:04,109 --> 00:24:04,609
Palestine.

715
00:24:04,954 --> 00:24:06,494
And to this day, that is an undeniable

716
00:24:06,954 --> 00:24:09,115
dioxin. Even the EPA was forced to acknowledge

717
00:24:09,115 --> 00:24:09,615
that

718
00:24:09,914 --> 00:24:12,075
after dragging their feet, barely wanting to test,

719
00:24:12,075 --> 00:24:14,394
refusing to test until finally we got multiple

720
00:24:14,394 --> 00:24:17,535
independent tests showing dioxins were the issue there.

721
00:24:18,169 --> 00:24:21,289
The point is that in Conyers, Georgia, the

722
00:24:21,289 --> 00:24:22,669
lowest estimate is 12,500,000

723
00:24:23,849 --> 00:24:24,750
chlorine compounds,

724
00:24:25,210 --> 00:24:26,349
possibly over 20.

725
00:24:26,650 --> 00:24:28,329
That's why his point is it could be

726
00:24:28,329 --> 00:24:30,089
the worst. And he still as I spoke

727
00:24:30,089 --> 00:24:32,109
to him today, waiting for the

728
00:24:32,884 --> 00:24:34,724
the test results from the I'm wondering why

729
00:24:34,724 --> 00:24:36,085
that's taking so long. Who know? I don't

730
00:24:36,085 --> 00:24:37,684
know why he's getting it through, but I've

731
00:24:37,684 --> 00:24:39,605
just I'm suspicious about how this is going

732
00:24:39,605 --> 00:24:41,845
because right in his policy, and remember, they

733
00:24:41,845 --> 00:24:44,404
were being refused dioxin testing. 1 of the

734
00:24:44,404 --> 00:24:46,404
nurses on video even got caught saying that

735
00:24:46,404 --> 00:24:47,845
they were told they weren't allowed to give

736
00:24:47,845 --> 00:24:50,299
them. Something's going on here. And this adds

737
00:24:50,299 --> 00:24:51,900
to my point. Why would they not want

738
00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,180
you to test to find it? I'm willing

739
00:24:53,180 --> 00:24:54,700
to bet you not only because they would've

740
00:24:54,700 --> 00:24:57,259
been shockingly high, but because I bet you

741
00:24:57,259 --> 00:24:59,440
all of us have a problem with this.

742
00:24:59,900 --> 00:25:01,340
That's the thing I'm trying to talk about

743
00:25:01,340 --> 00:25:01,840
today.

744
00:25:02,755 --> 00:25:04,035
Now this is the one I follow-up on

745
00:25:04,035 --> 00:25:07,234
the 10th. Conyers, Georgia resident suffering prolonged illness.

746
00:25:07,234 --> 00:25:08,595
Now this is from the 10th. This was

747
00:25:08,595 --> 00:25:10,755
a CNN article discussing how they were still

748
00:25:10,755 --> 00:25:12,755
dealing with these issues. The main thing that

749
00:25:12,755 --> 00:25:15,450
I highlighted was the chloracne overlap. The women,

750
00:25:15,450 --> 00:25:17,369
the people having rashes, the woman in this

751
00:25:17,369 --> 00:25:19,849
specific discussion had all of her legs were

752
00:25:19,849 --> 00:25:22,509
covered in rashes and overlapping with the Cebeso

753
00:25:22,650 --> 00:25:23,789
disaster, which is

754
00:25:24,089 --> 00:25:26,509
the Italy example of a dioxin release,

755
00:25:26,890 --> 00:25:28,089
which we'll get we'll get to in a

756
00:25:28,089 --> 00:25:29,769
minute. I believe that's right here. A look

757
00:25:29,769 --> 00:25:32,214
at 40 years of health and research and

758
00:25:32,214 --> 00:25:32,714
beyond.

759
00:25:33,015 --> 00:25:34,934
The time Time Magazine called this one of

760
00:25:34,934 --> 00:25:37,255
the top 10 environmental disasters in history to

761
00:25:37,255 --> 00:25:37,914
this day.

762
00:25:38,375 --> 00:25:40,214
And it's a dioxin disaster. That's what it

763
00:25:40,214 --> 00:25:41,414
was. You can read about it, and we'll

764
00:25:41,414 --> 00:25:43,434
go over it in a second. And this,

765
00:25:43,494 --> 00:25:45,015
I argue, is less than what we're dealing

766
00:25:45,015 --> 00:25:46,799
with today. But that I'm I'm not gonna

767
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:48,319
I'm not the expert. I'm waiting for the

768
00:25:48,319 --> 00:25:50,000
full results to come back on the exact

769
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,440
amount, but we'll go through this and I'll

770
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:52,419
show you what I mean.

771
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:54,179
So this is

772
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,079
still happening. And the oh, and the point

773
00:25:56,079 --> 00:25:58,799
was the chloracne was what Cveso's study was

774
00:25:58,799 --> 00:26:00,805
basing it on. That when you have the

775
00:26:00,805 --> 00:26:02,664
acne that that's based on chlorine,

776
00:26:02,965 --> 00:26:05,125
that is what they argue the definitive example

777
00:26:05,125 --> 00:26:07,845
of acute exposure. And people were studied 20,

778
00:26:07,845 --> 00:26:10,085
40 years after this based on whether they

779
00:26:10,085 --> 00:26:12,485
had chloracne, and the ones that did, overwhelmed

780
00:26:12,485 --> 00:26:13,144
with problems.

781
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:15,500
So we're seeing the same thing just like

782
00:26:15,500 --> 00:26:17,099
east Palestine. We spoke to many people that

783
00:26:17,099 --> 00:26:17,839
had chloracne.

784
00:26:19,420 --> 00:26:20,859
I'll also include this if you wanna watch.

785
00:26:20,859 --> 00:26:22,619
It's an 8 minute clip. Grace is always

786
00:26:22,619 --> 00:26:24,299
doing amazing work. She goes over some of

787
00:26:24,299 --> 00:26:25,660
the interesting ins and outs of this. One

788
00:26:25,660 --> 00:26:27,099
of the points she brings out actually, which

789
00:26:27,099 --> 00:26:28,845
I'm glad you just remembered, it's called Something

790
00:26:28,845 --> 00:26:30,684
Strange Is Happening in Georgia. This is from

791
00:26:30,684 --> 00:26:32,845
the 2nd October. She makes a point I

792
00:26:32,845 --> 00:26:34,204
I I kind of fear

793
00:26:34,924 --> 00:26:36,285
I thought out loud about this in the

794
00:26:36,285 --> 00:26:38,444
last show I did around chlorine gas. Remember,

795
00:26:38,444 --> 00:26:39,724
if you remember, I just kinda thought out

796
00:26:39,724 --> 00:26:41,490
loud. I'm like, is chlorine gas the same?

797
00:26:41,569 --> 00:26:43,009
Is is that just dioxins or is it

798
00:26:43,009 --> 00:26:44,450
something different? No. She makes a good point

799
00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:46,289
about it. Apparently, and I looked it up

800
00:26:46,289 --> 00:26:48,690
more in-depth after I did that show, chlorine

801
00:26:48,690 --> 00:26:51,349
gas is not the same. It's it's dioxins,

802
00:26:52,130 --> 00:26:54,069
as we talked about, dioxins is a byproduct

803
00:26:54,130 --> 00:26:56,950
of burning chlorinated products and specifically chlorine.

804
00:26:57,315 --> 00:26:59,474
But the chlorine gas is another weaponized version

805
00:26:59,474 --> 00:27:01,394
of using chlorine. The reason I brought that

806
00:27:01,394 --> 00:27:02,754
up in the past show was about whether

807
00:27:02,754 --> 00:27:04,355
or not what they were suffering from was

808
00:27:04,355 --> 00:27:06,294
because they kept calling it chlorine gas.

809
00:27:06,914 --> 00:27:08,514
My point is I don't believe that's what

810
00:27:08,514 --> 00:27:09,954
this was. I believe they were referring to

811
00:27:09,954 --> 00:27:11,960
the byproducts of burning that chlorine. Because if

812
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:13,160
it was chlorine gas, that would have been

813
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:14,839
just the remnants of what didn't get burned

814
00:27:14,839 --> 00:27:15,900
in the massive fire.

815
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,039
So I think they're conflating those two things.

816
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:19,559
Anyway, she makes a good point about it

817
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:21,000
in here in regard to what it was,

818
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,380
how it's been used as a weapon.

819
00:27:22,759 --> 00:27:24,825
I'll also include this. It's an ongoing discussion

820
00:27:25,365 --> 00:27:28,325
from, specifically, Conyers Georgia about shutting down the

821
00:27:28,325 --> 00:27:30,805
BioLab company. Because if you remember, this has

822
00:27:30,805 --> 00:27:31,545
gone back

823
00:27:32,085 --> 00:27:34,005
decades. They've had, I think, 3 or 4,

824
00:27:34,005 --> 00:27:35,785
if I remember correctly, different fires

825
00:27:36,164 --> 00:27:38,990
because of this plant. And every time, I'm

826
00:27:38,990 --> 00:27:40,830
talking at least the 3 that I've just

827
00:27:40,830 --> 00:27:42,369
went into in-depth in myself.

828
00:27:42,670 --> 00:27:44,029
Every time they've had this, it's been the

829
00:27:44,029 --> 00:27:46,529
same company with the same exact problem.

830
00:27:46,910 --> 00:27:48,590
Remember, the issue here is that they have

831
00:27:48,590 --> 00:27:51,970
sprinkler systems with water over chemicals that chemically

832
00:27:52,029 --> 00:27:53,250
react with water.

833
00:27:53,815 --> 00:27:55,235
That's not a joke.

834
00:27:55,575 --> 00:27:57,335
The the there this should be a criminal

835
00:27:57,335 --> 00:27:58,934
investigation for things just like that, but it

836
00:27:58,934 --> 00:28:00,474
doesn't seem to be going that way.

837
00:28:01,015 --> 00:28:02,535
And every time in the past, it's been

838
00:28:02,535 --> 00:28:04,695
the same thing. So either they do this

839
00:28:04,695 --> 00:28:06,615
on purpose or they should be charged with

840
00:28:06,615 --> 00:28:07,355
such extreme

841
00:28:08,059 --> 00:28:10,700
incompetence malfeasance because they've allowed the sprinklers to

842
00:28:10,700 --> 00:28:12,859
remain. And they because it's a chemical reaction

843
00:28:12,859 --> 00:28:15,259
which causes a massive dioxin release. It's the

844
00:28:15,259 --> 00:28:17,740
same exact thing as the Cebeso disaster in

845
00:28:17,740 --> 00:28:18,240
Italy.

846
00:28:18,779 --> 00:28:20,619
To me, just like the guy who died

847
00:28:20,619 --> 00:28:22,559
right after giving testimony as a whistleblower,

848
00:28:23,144 --> 00:28:25,005
he argued this was deliberate.

849
00:28:26,105 --> 00:28:28,424
He died right after giving testimony that this

850
00:28:28,424 --> 00:28:29,644
company was doing this.

851
00:28:30,744 --> 00:28:32,345
Now here's what he said what Scott c

852
00:28:32,345 --> 00:28:33,545
Smith said to me when I asked him.

853
00:28:33,545 --> 00:28:34,744
I simply reached out and I said, you

854
00:28:34,744 --> 00:28:36,900
know, what's the what's the status of the

855
00:28:36,900 --> 00:28:38,980
upcoming reports, and what do you think about

856
00:28:38,980 --> 00:28:40,660
this current disaster as well that we're gonna

857
00:28:40,660 --> 00:28:42,500
talk about? And he simply said, although I

858
00:28:42,500 --> 00:28:44,019
still don't have the docs and results, this

859
00:28:44,019 --> 00:28:46,740
is important, from Georgia, he says the corrupt

860
00:28:46,740 --> 00:28:47,240
EPA

861
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:50,474
pulled their playbook from East Palestine to Conyers,

862
00:28:50,474 --> 00:28:52,795
Georgia is unfortunately alive and well as the

863
00:28:52,795 --> 00:28:54,015
EPA has refused

864
00:28:54,634 --> 00:28:56,174
to test for dioxins.

865
00:28:56,634 --> 00:28:58,954
And many other compounds like PAHs, which he

866
00:28:58,954 --> 00:29:00,394
mentioned, I'll read off what that is in

867
00:29:00,394 --> 00:29:02,769
a second, that are known to be generated

868
00:29:02,769 --> 00:29:04,210
when chlorine compounds burn. Now it's one of

869
00:29:04,210 --> 00:29:05,329
the main things I'm gonna get into in

870
00:29:05,329 --> 00:29:07,650
the studies right after this, that they know

871
00:29:07,650 --> 00:29:10,529
this. There's no arguing I mean, other than

872
00:29:10,529 --> 00:29:11,509
a shocking,

873
00:29:11,890 --> 00:29:14,049
shocking level of incompetence, which might even make

874
00:29:14,049 --> 00:29:16,714
sense with the continual downgrade of the, you

875
00:29:16,714 --> 00:29:18,315
know, the lesser of evil's game that gets

876
00:29:18,315 --> 00:29:20,154
dumber and dumber people in power, which then

877
00:29:20,154 --> 00:29:22,634
they appoint worse and worse people? Maybe. Either

878
00:29:22,634 --> 00:29:23,934
way, it's their responsibility.

879
00:29:24,634 --> 00:29:26,634
And the point is that they know that

880
00:29:26,634 --> 00:29:29,694
burning chlorine chlorinated products, let alone chlorine itself,

881
00:29:29,730 --> 00:29:32,069
which is what the BioLab location had chlorine

882
00:29:32,450 --> 00:29:35,490
specifically and other chlorinated products on plastic pallets

883
00:29:35,490 --> 00:29:36,849
full of plastic. I mean, this is like

884
00:29:36,849 --> 00:29:38,549
a dioxin perfect storm,

885
00:29:39,410 --> 00:29:41,970
and that they're refusing to test for them.

886
00:29:41,970 --> 00:29:43,109
Why would that be?

887
00:29:43,444 --> 00:29:44,805
I mean, I mean, I think that point

888
00:29:44,805 --> 00:29:45,305
alone

889
00:29:46,005 --> 00:29:46,984
makes this clear.

890
00:29:47,444 --> 00:29:49,204
This is my opinion, but think about this.

891
00:29:49,204 --> 00:29:50,565
If they know that, which I can prove

892
00:29:50,565 --> 00:29:52,164
they do, it's easy to see, why would

893
00:29:52,164 --> 00:29:54,244
they refuse to test it? Why, when he's

894
00:29:54,244 --> 00:29:56,500
Palestine, would they drag their feet for months

895
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,460
until finally, due to even corporate media asking

896
00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:01,779
about dioxins in the press conferences, that they

897
00:30:01,779 --> 00:30:03,859
were forced to acknowledge it? That sounds to

898
00:30:03,859 --> 00:30:06,579
me like they're doing everything to avoid even

899
00:30:06,579 --> 00:30:08,359
talking about what they know is there.

900
00:30:08,785 --> 00:30:10,144
Doesn't that sound like a problem that they

901
00:30:10,144 --> 00:30:11,744
know they can't handle or that they want

902
00:30:11,744 --> 00:30:13,444
there? To me, it does.

903
00:30:14,704 --> 00:30:17,605
Now here is the, PAH list. It's chlorinated

904
00:30:17,904 --> 00:30:18,404
polycyclical

905
00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:20,325
aromatic hydrocarbons.

906
00:30:20,785 --> 00:30:22,865
And this is what's important. It's another aspect

907
00:30:22,865 --> 00:30:24,470
of the same problem, which is that if

908
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:25,650
you look at the health concerns,

909
00:30:26,029 --> 00:30:28,269
they're chlorinated, first of all. So when those

910
00:30:28,269 --> 00:30:30,349
are those are the byproducts as well, but

911
00:30:30,349 --> 00:30:32,130
even if those were burned, they would create

912
00:30:32,269 --> 00:30:34,430
dioxins. And it says have been linked to

913
00:30:34,430 --> 00:30:36,130
potential health hazards, including

914
00:30:36,884 --> 00:30:37,384
mutagenicity

915
00:30:38,085 --> 00:30:38,984
and carcinogenicity.

916
00:30:39,605 --> 00:30:41,125
Right? So we're gonna get into how the

917
00:30:41,125 --> 00:30:42,805
obvious one of the big issues with this

918
00:30:42,805 --> 00:30:44,904
is this these are endocrine disrupting chemicals

919
00:30:45,205 --> 00:30:46,345
as well as carcinogenic.

920
00:30:46,644 --> 00:30:49,365
And it says toxicity to aquatic organisms and

921
00:30:49,365 --> 00:30:49,865
humans,

922
00:30:50,589 --> 00:30:51,089
bioaccumulation

923
00:30:51,629 --> 00:30:52,609
and bio magnification

924
00:30:53,230 --> 00:30:55,470
in food chains. That's a huge part of

925
00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:57,569
this because these these are PAHs.

926
00:30:58,349 --> 00:31:00,289
This is less dangerous, objectively,

927
00:31:01,069 --> 00:31:03,329
than dioxin, specifically TCDD,

928
00:31:03,710 --> 00:31:06,164
which is the most dangerous chemical anywhere.

929
00:31:06,725 --> 00:31:08,664
Now the point is that this is also

930
00:31:09,445 --> 00:31:12,105
accumulating in the food supply and the soil.

931
00:31:13,045 --> 00:31:14,505
How long has that been happening?

932
00:31:14,884 --> 00:31:16,025
Longer than you know.

933
00:31:17,045 --> 00:31:18,244
Now here's a clip of play because I

934
00:31:18,244 --> 00:31:19,445
wanna set this in your mind. Now the

935
00:31:19,445 --> 00:31:21,205
High Impact Flix shared this saying, take 4

936
00:31:21,205 --> 00:31:22,980
minutes to watch this and be sure to

937
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:25,140
follow Shannon Joy Radio. I agree. This is

938
00:31:25,140 --> 00:31:26,840
a true slice of independent journalism.

939
00:31:27,299 --> 00:31:28,200
Now sensor

940
00:31:28,580 --> 00:31:31,460
a sense receptor shared this, tagging Doge, the

941
00:31:31,460 --> 00:31:34,100
Department of Government Efficiency or whatever you wanna

942
00:31:34,100 --> 00:31:36,119
call this weird thing, however that works out.

943
00:31:37,605 --> 00:31:40,164
Apparently, co headed by 2 people, which seems

944
00:31:40,164 --> 00:31:41,924
embarrassing to me either way. The point is

945
00:31:41,924 --> 00:31:43,845
that she's highlighting if they really wanna care

946
00:31:43,845 --> 00:31:46,244
about this efficiency conversation, we should be discussing

947
00:31:46,244 --> 00:31:48,565
the 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars that are missing, which

948
00:31:48,565 --> 00:31:49,625
I doubt they will.

949
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,920
But the point she makes in this is

950
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,759
really interesting about and this is the same

951
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:55,440
thing she one of the points many that

952
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,039
she makes in this excellent interview we had

953
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:59,119
in the studio on September 8, see beyond

954
00:31:59,119 --> 00:32:01,460
the duopoly and take responsibility for a future,

955
00:32:02,075 --> 00:32:04,075
which she discusses the interesting point about whether

956
00:32:04,075 --> 00:32:05,855
they might be trying to lower the lifespan

957
00:32:06,075 --> 00:32:07,214
of the average person.

958
00:32:07,914 --> 00:32:10,234
1, on the surface for a financial financial

959
00:32:10,394 --> 00:32:11,994
like, basically, I'll let her explain it better

960
00:32:11,994 --> 00:32:13,434
than I will, but the idea of tapping

961
00:32:13,434 --> 00:32:15,194
into all of the which is why people

962
00:32:15,194 --> 00:32:16,875
tell you your Social Security won't be there,

963
00:32:16,875 --> 00:32:18,750
all these different retirement elements that they're just

964
00:32:18,750 --> 00:32:20,750
tapping into for all sorts of things. And

965
00:32:20,750 --> 00:32:22,509
if they can lower that lifespan, well, there's

966
00:32:22,509 --> 00:32:23,869
more to tap into there. But I argue

967
00:32:23,869 --> 00:32:25,730
there's much more going on here.

968
00:32:27,150 --> 00:32:28,930
But I'll I'll let her speak for herself.

969
00:32:30,115 --> 00:32:32,835
Really wanted to reform the deep state. I'd

970
00:32:32,835 --> 00:32:35,075
say, okay. Who's got the 21,000,000,000,000, and how

971
00:32:35,075 --> 00:32:36,054
do we get it back?

972
00:32:36,994 --> 00:32:38,454
Can you explain that 21,000,000,000,000

973
00:32:38,914 --> 00:32:39,654
if you can?

974
00:32:40,034 --> 00:32:42,480
Yeah. So the Department of Defense from

975
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,619
so in

976
00:32:44,319 --> 00:32:44,900
in in 1995,

977
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,419
we had a budget,

978
00:32:48,799 --> 00:32:51,299
we had a a big budget confrontation,

979
00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,160
and it was later described to me by

980
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:55,839
the head of the largest pension fund in

981
00:32:55,839 --> 00:32:58,045
the country. He said, they've given up on

982
00:32:58,045 --> 00:32:59,725
the country. They're moving all the money out

983
00:32:59,725 --> 00:33:00,865
starting in the fall.

984
00:33:01,484 --> 00:33:03,325
And that was the beginning of the financial

985
00:33:03,325 --> 00:33:06,305
coup. And in in fiscal 1998,

986
00:33:06,765 --> 00:33:08,225
HUD was missing $59,000,000,000

987
00:33:10,045 --> 00:33:12,545
in the 1st year. And then by

988
00:33:13,140 --> 00:33:13,640
911,

989
00:33:15,460 --> 00:33:18,740
the federal government, mostly DOD, was missing missing

990
00:33:18,740 --> 00:33:19,880
approximately $4,000,000,000,000.

991
00:33:20,980 --> 00:33:21,480
Okay?

992
00:33:22,180 --> 00:33:24,900
And and then when 911 happened, the day

993
00:33:24,900 --> 00:33:28,065
before 911, Donna Rumsfeld got up and confessed

994
00:33:28,065 --> 00:33:29,845
that DOD was missing 2,300,000,000,000.

995
00:33:30,704 --> 00:33:31,204
Unbelievable.

996
00:33:31,664 --> 00:33:32,164
Okay.

997
00:33:32,464 --> 00:33:35,105
And and then 911 happened, and everybody sort

998
00:33:35,105 --> 00:33:36,724
of forgot about the missing money.

999
00:33:37,265 --> 00:33:39,984
And and Solari kept publishing it and publishing

1000
00:33:39,984 --> 00:33:41,365
it. And I kept saying,

1001
00:33:42,569 --> 00:33:44,329
we've got to pay attention to the missing

1002
00:33:44,329 --> 00:33:45,069
money because,

1003
00:33:46,089 --> 00:33:46,589
essentially,

1004
00:33:47,210 --> 00:33:49,929
most of this is being being financed out

1005
00:33:49,929 --> 00:33:52,730
of our pension funds and retirement funds. Jeez.

1006
00:33:52,730 --> 00:33:54,829
And if we don't address this,

1007
00:33:55,494 --> 00:33:57,894
we won't have enough money to meet our

1008
00:33:57,894 --> 00:34:00,154
obligations under the retirement system

1009
00:34:00,615 --> 00:34:02,714
unless we lower, like, life expectancy.

1010
00:34:03,734 --> 00:34:04,634
And in fact,

1011
00:34:05,095 --> 00:34:07,575
the a lot of the great poising started

1012
00:34:07,575 --> 00:34:08,855
at the same time. And if you look

1013
00:34:08,855 --> 00:34:10,234
at US life expectancy

1014
00:34:11,869 --> 00:34:13,070
Just so it's clear, because she says it

1015
00:34:13,070 --> 00:34:15,250
very fast, she talks about the great poisoning.

1016
00:34:15,630 --> 00:34:16,610
I think that's important.

1017
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:19,949
Because, guys, this this it's not just dioxins,

1018
00:34:19,949 --> 00:34:21,390
but this is the point I'm hyping I'm

1019
00:34:21,390 --> 00:34:23,875
hype I'm focusing on for today's show. But

1020
00:34:23,875 --> 00:34:25,394
we you guys are well aware of all

1021
00:34:25,394 --> 00:34:26,994
the rest of the conversations that we her

1022
00:34:26,994 --> 00:34:28,035
and I have had, that she's had with

1023
00:34:28,035 --> 00:34:29,394
many other people, that she's had on her

1024
00:34:29,394 --> 00:34:31,715
own shows, the conversations about the many different

1025
00:34:31,715 --> 00:34:33,474
ways we are being we and you don't

1026
00:34:33,474 --> 00:34:35,555
have to feel that it's being deliberately poisoned,

1027
00:34:35,555 --> 00:34:37,555
but that nonetheless is the byproduct of it.

1028
00:34:37,555 --> 00:34:38,755
I do agree with her. I think it's

1029
00:34:38,755 --> 00:34:40,789
deliberate about whether we're talking about

1030
00:34:41,570 --> 00:34:43,730
our endocrine disrupting chemicals or glyphosate, right, or

1031
00:34:43,730 --> 00:34:45,250
PFAS or any number of the things that

1032
00:34:45,250 --> 00:34:47,670
are deliberately, I think, adding to

1033
00:34:48,210 --> 00:34:51,030
exactly what she's discussing that lead to reproductive

1034
00:34:51,170 --> 00:34:53,890
issues, immune problems, which then are also catalysts

1035
00:34:53,890 --> 00:34:55,304
for the other things that we've discussed.

1036
00:34:56,264 --> 00:34:59,304
When the financial coup started, life expectancy started

1037
00:34:59,304 --> 00:35:01,885
to fall and diverge with the other 19

1038
00:35:02,505 --> 00:35:05,164
industrial top industrial company countries

1039
00:35:05,784 --> 00:35:08,585
and, and that accelerated with the pandemic. And

1040
00:35:08,585 --> 00:35:10,444
what we are watching is a systematic

1041
00:35:11,329 --> 00:35:12,710
lowering of life expectancies,

1042
00:35:13,809 --> 00:35:15,909
which is part of dealing with this financial

1043
00:35:15,969 --> 00:35:16,849
problem. So

1044
00:35:17,969 --> 00:35:20,130
So the the surface point is that simply

1045
00:35:20,130 --> 00:35:22,050
that they have a financial issue and that

1046
00:35:22,050 --> 00:35:24,289
they find by lowering your life expectancy that

1047
00:35:24,289 --> 00:35:26,289
they can reap the benefits financially, which will

1048
00:35:26,289 --> 00:35:26,985
fill that gap.

1049
00:35:27,945 --> 00:35:29,704
I mean, that's pretty logical. Right? I'm no

1050
00:35:29,785 --> 00:35:31,305
I don't tell anybody well, other than the

1051
00:35:31,305 --> 00:35:32,985
idea that they wouldn't be willing to lower

1052
00:35:32,985 --> 00:35:34,825
your lifespan in a slow, steady way that

1053
00:35:34,825 --> 00:35:36,744
nobody would notice. I mean, really? Is any

1054
00:35:36,825 --> 00:35:38,744
I mean, I know that sounds sinister because

1055
00:35:38,744 --> 00:35:39,325
it is.

1056
00:35:39,659 --> 00:35:39,900
But how

1057
00:35:40,699 --> 00:35:42,380
I mean, there are wars conducted in so

1058
00:35:42,380 --> 00:35:44,299
many there are silent wars happening all over

1059
00:35:44,299 --> 00:35:46,699
the world. We know our government, our governments

1060
00:35:46,699 --> 00:35:47,440
in general,

1061
00:35:47,739 --> 00:35:50,139
are very capable of this. I also just

1062
00:35:50,139 --> 00:35:52,005
think it's much deeper than that. But just

1063
00:35:52,005 --> 00:35:53,364
recognize that should be a point that's not

1064
00:35:53,364 --> 00:35:55,364
hard to digest. We have plenty of precedent

1065
00:35:55,364 --> 00:35:58,005
that the US government alone is absolutely capable

1066
00:35:58,005 --> 00:35:59,464
of that capable of that,

1067
00:35:59,764 --> 00:36:02,164
especially to foreign governments, but more to foreign

1068
00:36:02,164 --> 00:36:04,424
populations, but provably to you as well.

1069
00:36:06,260 --> 00:36:08,980
If you can't balance the books with full

1070
00:36:08,980 --> 00:36:11,320
funding, you balance the books by

1071
00:36:11,859 --> 00:36:14,420
lowering the drain that the population is taking

1072
00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:16,679
out of the out of the retirement system.

1073
00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:17,960
So

1074
00:36:18,565 --> 00:36:21,224
so this is part and parcel of

1075
00:36:22,164 --> 00:36:23,704
of our financial

1076
00:36:24,085 --> 00:36:24,585
situation.

1077
00:36:24,885 --> 00:36:25,385
Now,

1078
00:36:25,925 --> 00:36:28,324
you have not seen the new or the

1079
00:36:28,324 --> 00:36:29,304
incoming administration

1080
00:36:29,605 --> 00:36:31,445
talk about the money that's missing from the

1081
00:36:31,445 --> 00:36:32,265
federal government.

1082
00:36:33,179 --> 00:36:35,260
If that money went missing, guess And I

1083
00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:36,800
don't think they will, by the way.

1084
00:36:37,260 --> 00:36:39,500
Where it went missing. Who runs the federal

1085
00:36:39,500 --> 00:36:40,320
bank account?

1086
00:36:42,139 --> 00:36:44,300
Federal Reserve? I don't know. I mean, federal

1087
00:36:44,420 --> 00:36:47,304
The New York the New York Fed. Okay.

1088
00:36:47,304 --> 00:36:49,144
So, yeah, it is a division of the

1089
00:36:49,144 --> 00:36:50,605
Federal Reserve. Right?

1090
00:36:51,224 --> 00:36:53,945
So so if 21 trillion is missing from

1091
00:36:53,945 --> 00:36:56,684
federal accounts, then the New York Fed implemented

1092
00:36:56,824 --> 00:36:57,565
those transactions.

1093
00:37:00,510 --> 00:37:02,590
And remember, the fed is not a part

1094
00:37:02,590 --> 00:37:04,750
of the federal government. It's they call it

1095
00:37:04,750 --> 00:37:07,150
that. I deliberately, I argue, which is not

1096
00:37:07,150 --> 00:37:08,510
hard to wrap your mind around in order

1097
00:37:08,510 --> 00:37:11,070
to manipulate people into thinking that. It is

1098
00:37:11,070 --> 00:37:12,989
an end it isn't it's a separate entity,

1099
00:37:12,989 --> 00:37:14,510
guys. And that's that's where you get into

1100
00:37:14,510 --> 00:37:17,155
this whole conversation about Trump firing Powell and

1101
00:37:17,155 --> 00:37:18,755
and, I I mean, I've already seen I

1102
00:37:18,755 --> 00:37:19,574
think it was

1103
00:37:20,114 --> 00:37:21,875
was it Mike Rogers? I forget. Somebody was

1104
00:37:21,875 --> 00:37:23,954
out there, like, I think deliberately trying to

1105
00:37:23,954 --> 00:37:26,275
conflate trying to convince you without saying it

1106
00:37:26,275 --> 00:37:28,034
that it was part of the government, rather

1107
00:37:28,034 --> 00:37:29,670
under the control of the executive branch. Now

1108
00:37:29,829 --> 00:37:30,949
you can make an argument that that would

1109
00:37:30,949 --> 00:37:32,069
be the case even if it wasn't part

1110
00:37:32,069 --> 00:37:33,269
of the government, but my point is the

1111
00:37:33,269 --> 00:37:35,049
way they were describing it was trying to

1112
00:37:35,349 --> 00:37:37,349
keep you thinking that, which that's a very

1113
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:38,489
nefarious agenda.

1114
00:37:39,349 --> 00:37:40,949
I just think we need to realize whether

1115
00:37:40,949 --> 00:37:42,549
by accident or not, if I wanna give

1116
00:37:42,549 --> 00:37:44,710
you that bone, that we're going in the

1117
00:37:44,710 --> 00:37:45,369
same direction.

1118
00:37:46,525 --> 00:37:48,465
Right? Little New York state. Right?

1119
00:37:49,644 --> 00:37:52,045
Damn. Right. Well, it's very funny when Bobbie

1120
00:37:52,045 --> 00:37:54,144
Ann Cox told me about her litigation.

1121
00:37:54,684 --> 00:37:56,684
Yeah. I said I said, Bobbie, that has

1122
00:37:56,684 --> 00:37:58,445
nothing to do with health. That has to

1123
00:37:58,445 --> 00:38:00,690
do with you're the New York Fed, and

1124
00:38:00,690 --> 00:38:02,769
you need to make sure that every financial

1125
00:38:02,769 --> 00:38:04,389
person and hedge fund manager

1126
00:38:04,769 --> 00:38:06,289
does what you tell them to do. And

1127
00:38:06,289 --> 00:38:07,730
if they don't, you need to be able

1128
00:38:07,730 --> 00:38:09,889
to kidnap them. This Is this why New

1129
00:38:09,889 --> 00:38:11,730
York is so corrupt? I'm in New York.

1130
00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:13,829
Is this why New York is so

1131
00:38:14,414 --> 00:38:14,914
corrupt?

1132
00:38:15,614 --> 00:38:18,735
New York New York needs to assert complete

1133
00:38:18,735 --> 00:38:21,055
control of any individual that they need to

1134
00:38:21,055 --> 00:38:22,594
implement the financial system.

1135
00:38:22,974 --> 00:38:24,255
Now it shouldn't be hard to wrap your

1136
00:38:24,414 --> 00:38:26,335
to see the overlap of the influence of

1137
00:38:26,335 --> 00:38:27,775
Israel in New York, but that shouldn't be

1138
00:38:27,775 --> 00:38:29,579
the only point if at all. These points

1139
00:38:29,579 --> 00:38:31,739
are relevant regardless of that. But I think

1140
00:38:31,739 --> 00:38:33,500
with how relevant that is to the global

1141
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:34,000
conversation,

1142
00:38:34,539 --> 00:38:36,559
it's you know, what's funny is people almost

1143
00:38:36,860 --> 00:38:38,380
at least more it used to be more

1144
00:38:38,380 --> 00:38:40,220
so would, like, shy away from ever highlighting

1145
00:38:40,220 --> 00:38:42,644
connections to Israel because you're called racist. But

1146
00:38:42,644 --> 00:38:44,324
the point is we can all hopefully clearly

1147
00:38:44,324 --> 00:38:46,805
see there's a far far more going on

1148
00:38:46,805 --> 00:38:48,164
that has anything to do with Jews or

1149
00:38:48,164 --> 00:38:49,684
Christians that has to do with what Israel

1150
00:38:49,684 --> 00:38:50,985
is trying to do around the world.

1151
00:38:52,005 --> 00:38:54,585
That's what that that's what that health regulation

1152
00:38:54,644 --> 00:38:55,320
is about.

1153
00:38:56,199 --> 00:38:57,960
You need to be able to kidnap and

1154
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,059
court you know? No. You can't afford

1155
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,440
the 1 hedge fund manager to implode the

1156
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,380
entire international financial system.

1157
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:05,260
Right?

1158
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:07,180
No. You can't.

1159
00:39:07,494 --> 00:39:09,414
That's wild. Do you really want a hedge

1160
00:39:09,414 --> 00:39:10,155
fund managers,

1161
00:39:10,454 --> 00:39:11,835
you know, standing up

1162
00:39:12,135 --> 00:39:14,695
and on the Solari show or the Shanna

1163
00:39:14,695 --> 00:39:17,175
Joy show and talking about how, you know,

1164
00:39:17,175 --> 00:39:19,414
they've just laundered out another trillion through the

1165
00:39:19,414 --> 00:39:21,195
BIS, and they're stealing it.

1166
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:22,260
Really?

1167
00:39:22,559 --> 00:39:23,380
That's wild.

1168
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,200
So check out this interview we did or

1169
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,880
any others we've had because she gets into

1170
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:30,239
something like this and here we go. It

1171
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,320
gets it's it's fascinating. And she's got a

1172
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:34,320
lot of interesting insight. Either way, the larger

1173
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,019
point to bring this into today

1174
00:39:36,505 --> 00:39:38,105
is the question of whether or not that

1175
00:39:38,105 --> 00:39:39,704
might be part of what's happening. And, really,

1176
00:39:39,704 --> 00:39:41,784
this addresses the larger, as she's saying, the

1177
00:39:41,784 --> 00:39:42,684
the great poisoning,

1178
00:39:43,065 --> 00:39:44,204
not just dioxins.

1179
00:39:44,744 --> 00:39:47,304
But I I can't stop seeing how this

1180
00:39:47,304 --> 00:39:48,984
overlaps with a lot of different things. Let's

1181
00:39:48,984 --> 00:39:50,585
not forget that dioxins in the past have

1182
00:39:50,585 --> 00:39:52,025
been used by the US government to try

1183
00:39:52,025 --> 00:39:53,969
to assassinate a foreign president that's on the

1184
00:39:53,969 --> 00:39:54,469
record.

1185
00:39:54,849 --> 00:39:57,010
It was used with agent orange. They pretend

1186
00:39:57,010 --> 00:39:58,369
like it was a byproduct, but it was

1187
00:39:58,369 --> 00:39:59,890
not. I believe it was a chemical weapon

1188
00:39:59,890 --> 00:40:00,710
that was used.

1189
00:40:01,410 --> 00:40:02,530
I I don't think that's a hard I

1190
00:40:02,530 --> 00:40:03,890
think that's pretty obvious when you look at

1191
00:40:03,890 --> 00:40:04,550
the information

1192
00:40:05,085 --> 00:40:06,925
that this has been something that's been used.

1193
00:40:06,925 --> 00:40:08,045
So this goes back as far as you

1194
00:40:08,045 --> 00:40:09,664
can look where they know this.

1195
00:40:10,284 --> 00:40:12,045
So it's also not hard to start thinking

1196
00:40:12,045 --> 00:40:14,525
that this was a slow, deliberate effort for

1197
00:40:14,525 --> 00:40:16,364
exactly what she's talking about. But you can

1198
00:40:16,364 --> 00:40:17,804
decide for yourselves. All I want you to

1199
00:40:17,804 --> 00:40:19,244
recognize today is that it is a problem

1200
00:40:19,244 --> 00:40:21,469
that exists, pretty damn ubiquitous, and that they're

1201
00:40:21,469 --> 00:40:23,309
not doing anything about it. Everything else on

1202
00:40:23,309 --> 00:40:24,849
top of that is just for

1203
00:40:25,150 --> 00:40:26,609
further investigation and discussion.

1204
00:40:27,150 --> 00:40:29,389
So let's start real with this recent one

1205
00:40:29,389 --> 00:40:30,609
in Bakersfield, California.

1206
00:40:30,909 --> 00:40:32,530
This is from November 9th.

1207
00:40:33,244 --> 00:40:34,844
Now this is just to quickly point out,

1208
00:40:34,844 --> 00:40:36,285
and this is what the the image from

1209
00:40:36,285 --> 00:40:36,785
today.

1210
00:40:37,324 --> 00:40:39,804
Multiple fire departments race to smother the flames

1211
00:40:39,804 --> 00:40:42,045
of a massive fire that erupted in Southeast

1212
00:40:42,045 --> 00:40:44,605
Bakersfield warehouse Saturday morning. Now, of course, it

1213
00:40:44,605 --> 00:40:46,285
doesn't have to be something we could be

1214
00:40:46,285 --> 00:40:49,230
random, organic, could happen. You know? The point

1215
00:40:49,230 --> 00:40:52,349
is how clear the byproduct is of any

1216
00:40:52,349 --> 00:40:53,309
of these. And I'm gonna prove it to

1217
00:40:53,309 --> 00:40:54,510
you yet again with what burned in here,

1218
00:40:54,510 --> 00:40:56,590
and you'll never hear them addressed. I mean,

1219
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:58,110
think about it like in any other context

1220
00:40:58,110 --> 00:40:59,469
where you have something that you know is

1221
00:40:59,469 --> 00:41:02,050
super dangerous, a cyanide plant or whatever.

1222
00:41:02,675 --> 00:41:05,074
And suddenly, there's a big massive release of

1223
00:41:05,074 --> 00:41:06,434
the plant. They rush in and they go,

1224
00:41:06,434 --> 00:41:08,614
don't worry. We're checking for for asbestos.

1225
00:41:09,234 --> 00:41:11,014
But what about the cyanide? That's

1226
00:41:11,474 --> 00:41:13,414
we're checking for asbestos and VOCs.

1227
00:41:14,195 --> 00:41:16,054
That's what Scott c is pointing to.

1228
00:41:16,469 --> 00:41:18,230
We're going, well, what the hell? What about

1229
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:19,750
the thing you know is the most dangerous

1230
00:41:19,750 --> 00:41:21,269
chemical in the world that you know as

1231
00:41:21,269 --> 00:41:22,949
a matter of fact will be a for

1232
00:41:22,949 --> 00:41:25,449
certain byproduct of what we just know burned?

1233
00:41:25,670 --> 00:41:26,170
What?

1234
00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:29,109
Like with East Palestine, what? We like, almost

1235
00:41:29,109 --> 00:41:31,109
like even what? Dioxin? Like, they weren't even

1236
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:32,605
sure, acting like it didn't even and maybe

1237
00:41:32,605 --> 00:41:34,045
they didn't, at least to the person with

1238
00:41:34,045 --> 00:41:34,625
the podium.

1239
00:41:35,244 --> 00:41:36,525
But we know for a fact that this

1240
00:41:36,525 --> 00:41:38,385
is something that they're willfully disregarding

1241
00:41:38,765 --> 00:41:40,625
because of the evidence that's at hand.

1242
00:41:43,164 --> 00:41:45,630
So down here, it says, first, business in

1243
00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:47,550
the area was able to continue as usual.

1244
00:41:47,550 --> 00:41:48,909
This is the point that really kills me.

1245
00:41:48,909 --> 00:41:51,089
The same thing that happened with Conyers, Georgia.

1246
00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:54,109
If we I mean, even dioxins aside, with

1247
00:41:54,109 --> 00:41:55,869
what we're talking about, that's a good point

1248
00:41:55,869 --> 00:41:58,130
that Grace makes in her video, just chlorine.

1249
00:41:58,474 --> 00:42:00,315
That she she references the overlap of the

1250
00:42:00,315 --> 00:42:02,155
chlorine bombs and used in in war, and

1251
00:42:02,155 --> 00:42:04,394
that's a chemical weapon. That's an attack. Right?

1252
00:42:04,394 --> 00:42:06,074
So even if it was an accident, which

1253
00:42:06,074 --> 00:42:07,375
I don't believe it was,

1254
00:42:07,755 --> 00:42:09,594
you're telling people to shelter in place when

1255
00:42:09,594 --> 00:42:11,515
there was basically the equivalent of a of

1256
00:42:11,515 --> 00:42:13,215
a chemical weapons attack?

1257
00:42:13,619 --> 00:42:14,920
That doesn't make any sense.

1258
00:42:15,539 --> 00:42:17,059
So in this case, the same thing. We

1259
00:42:17,059 --> 00:42:19,299
made sure business as usual before we even

1260
00:42:19,299 --> 00:42:20,759
addressed what was going on.

1261
00:42:21,779 --> 00:42:23,380
I mean, with all the examples we have,

1262
00:42:23,380 --> 00:42:25,859
that seems pretty crazy to me. But I'm

1263
00:42:25,859 --> 00:42:27,319
not I'm continually

1264
00:42:27,699 --> 00:42:30,464
not surprised by the shocking ineptitude of government

1265
00:42:30,464 --> 00:42:32,625
these days. But here's another article from the

1266
00:42:32,625 --> 00:42:34,545
9th. This is Bakersfield, California. This is from

1267
00:42:34,545 --> 00:42:35,284
the bakersfield.com

1268
00:42:35,824 --> 00:42:37,364
or belt Bakersfield, Californian.

1269
00:42:38,385 --> 00:42:41,184
Black smoke from 2 alarm, 2 warehouse fire

1270
00:42:41,184 --> 00:42:42,324
visible for miles.

1271
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:46,800
Look at that. So here's the main points.

1272
00:42:46,860 --> 00:42:49,420
The ware 2 warehouses of about 10,000 square

1273
00:42:49,420 --> 00:42:52,320
feet. They're packed from floor to ceiling

1274
00:42:53,019 --> 00:42:56,219
with plastic drip irrigation material that produced the,

1275
00:42:56,219 --> 00:42:59,054
quote, ominous looking column of smoke. Now, obviously,

1276
00:42:59,054 --> 00:43:00,894
as Scott would point out, the black smoke

1277
00:43:00,894 --> 00:43:03,695
is what the that's the unburned material. That

1278
00:43:03,695 --> 00:43:05,375
is the that that is what that that

1279
00:43:05,375 --> 00:43:07,214
is what is the one of the necessary

1280
00:43:07,214 --> 00:43:09,534
parts to truly make the dioxin problem the

1281
00:43:09,534 --> 00:43:11,474
worst as well as just chlorine into products,

1282
00:43:11,534 --> 00:43:13,234
plastic being one of them.

1283
00:43:13,809 --> 00:43:14,309
Specifically,

1284
00:43:14,769 --> 00:43:16,130
the things that we can discuss in this.

1285
00:43:16,130 --> 00:43:18,549
So they're talking about plastic drip irrigation material.

1286
00:43:19,170 --> 00:43:20,929
Now I looked into what they would have,

1287
00:43:20,929 --> 00:43:22,710
and one of the main things we're discussing

1288
00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:26,230
is plaque black plastic mulch,

1289
00:43:26,585 --> 00:43:27,784
which is part of what the which is

1290
00:43:27,784 --> 00:43:29,464
one of the things that we're discussing burning

1291
00:43:29,464 --> 00:43:30,204
these plants.

1292
00:43:30,824 --> 00:43:31,324
Obviously,

1293
00:43:31,864 --> 00:43:34,664
burning black plastic mulch can release dioxins, which

1294
00:43:34,664 --> 00:43:36,424
I shouldn't need to anything plastic for the

1295
00:43:36,424 --> 00:43:38,184
most part is gonna have these problems. But,

1296
00:43:38,184 --> 00:43:38,684
specifically,

1297
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:41,880
specifically, one of the things with plastic drip

1298
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,320
irrigation material is black plastic mulch. And, yes,

1299
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,639
that is one of the obvious issues. Exposure

1300
00:43:47,639 --> 00:43:49,239
to dioxins have been linked with various health

1301
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:50,920
issues we'll get into in a minute. On

1302
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,420
top of that, plastic drip irrigation material,

1303
00:43:53,905 --> 00:43:55,664
which is black and then that's that's right

1304
00:43:55,664 --> 00:43:57,505
there. Oh, I think I'm almost out of

1305
00:43:57,505 --> 00:43:59,905
order. Black plastic mulch is widely accepted for

1306
00:43:59,905 --> 00:44:01,345
the ability to warm the soil. These are

1307
00:44:01,345 --> 00:44:02,965
all what what you would find. Drip tubes,

1308
00:44:03,025 --> 00:44:04,945
drip lines made of plastic and designed to

1309
00:44:04,945 --> 00:44:07,265
deliver water. Those are plastic, which will obviously

1310
00:44:07,265 --> 00:44:08,005
cause that.

1311
00:44:09,050 --> 00:44:10,969
And then mats and plastic molds and all

1312
00:44:10,969 --> 00:44:12,329
these all all these things are the same

1313
00:44:12,329 --> 00:44:14,090
conversation. Just wanna make sure that was clear.

1314
00:44:14,090 --> 00:44:15,150
That is what we're discussing.

1315
00:44:15,690 --> 00:44:17,929
So in a review, in searching for these

1316
00:44:17,929 --> 00:44:19,550
exact convert these exact

1317
00:44:19,849 --> 00:44:20,989
materials, specifically

1318
00:44:21,505 --> 00:44:23,744
plastic drip irrigation material, it led me to

1319
00:44:23,744 --> 00:44:24,885
this study from 2022.

1320
00:44:25,905 --> 00:44:29,105
A review of soil contamination with dioxins and

1321
00:44:29,105 --> 00:44:29,605
biodegradation

1322
00:44:30,065 --> 00:44:30,565
technologies.

1323
00:44:30,945 --> 00:44:32,545
Now one thing they highlight in here, the

1324
00:44:32,545 --> 00:44:34,545
main point of the article, the study, is

1325
00:44:34,545 --> 00:44:36,965
to highlight the efforts to clean.

1326
00:44:37,929 --> 00:44:39,929
Right? But what you could do to degrade

1327
00:44:39,929 --> 00:44:41,929
the dioxin. Now the point is obviously you'll

1328
00:44:41,929 --> 00:44:43,050
find the same thing we're talking about, that

1329
00:44:43,050 --> 00:44:44,590
it seems to be damn near impossible.

1330
00:44:44,890 --> 00:44:45,929
But I wanted to go over some of

1331
00:44:45,929 --> 00:44:47,210
the most important things that stood out to

1332
00:44:47,210 --> 00:44:49,050
me in this. Now if you're new to

1333
00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:50,969
this conversation, this will probably shock you because

1334
00:44:50,969 --> 00:44:51,974
dioxins are,

1335
00:44:52,375 --> 00:44:53,434
again, TCDD

1336
00:44:53,735 --> 00:44:55,735
being the the most is the most dangerous

1337
00:44:55,735 --> 00:44:57,914
chemical in existence according to all the experts.

1338
00:44:58,535 --> 00:45:00,635
Dioxins, that it writes, are dangerous

1339
00:45:01,255 --> 00:45:02,715
threats threat agents

1340
00:45:03,494 --> 00:45:04,795
even at low concentrations,

1341
00:45:05,735 --> 00:45:07,035
1 part per billion,

1342
00:45:08,159 --> 00:45:10,639
which are enough to wreak havoc on human

1343
00:45:10,639 --> 00:45:12,559
health and the environment. Now remember the numbers

1344
00:45:12,559 --> 00:45:14,319
because we're gonna go through all of these

1345
00:45:14,319 --> 00:45:16,000
examples. Now some of these are kind of

1346
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,679
up in the air or using different comparative

1347
00:45:17,679 --> 00:45:19,119
methods. Either way, it gives you kind of

1348
00:45:19,119 --> 00:45:20,980
a general sense of what we're talking about.

1349
00:45:21,454 --> 00:45:24,355
The point, even at low very low concentrations.

1350
00:45:24,974 --> 00:45:27,855
Now in humans, dioxin exposure in human in

1351
00:45:27,855 --> 00:45:31,394
humans affects the endocrine glands and reproductive functions.

1352
00:45:31,695 --> 00:45:33,054
And we're gonna show you some of these

1353
00:45:33,054 --> 00:45:33,539
studies

1354
00:45:33,860 --> 00:45:36,340
even very, very low amounts in past studies

1355
00:45:36,340 --> 00:45:38,519
have shown very clear side effects.

1356
00:45:39,059 --> 00:45:40,420
And the point then is that you have

1357
00:45:40,420 --> 00:45:41,860
side effects, then it stays in your body

1358
00:45:41,860 --> 00:45:43,400
and you pass this down the line.

1359
00:45:45,059 --> 00:45:48,019
Causes diseases in the central and peripheral areas

1360
00:45:48,019 --> 00:45:49,239
of the nervous system

1361
00:45:49,784 --> 00:45:52,344
and impedes fetal development, especially in the nervous

1362
00:45:52,344 --> 00:45:53,324
system and joints.

1363
00:45:53,625 --> 00:45:55,864
Dioxins can be remain can be can remain

1364
00:45:55,864 --> 00:45:57,964
in the environment for a long time,

1365
00:45:58,264 --> 00:46:00,605
seeping deeply into soil and sediments.

1366
00:46:00,984 --> 00:46:03,480
Therefore, dioxins remaining in the soil and sediments

1367
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,859
will seep into water sources and ecosystems,

1368
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,859
including those that produce fish, shrimp, vegetables, crops,

1369
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,900
posing a risk of poisoning for future generations.

1370
00:46:14,679 --> 00:46:15,579
This is 2022.

1371
00:46:16,284 --> 00:46:17,565
Now we're gonna come back to this at

1372
00:46:17,565 --> 00:46:18,684
the end, but I want you I wanna

1373
00:46:18,684 --> 00:46:19,585
remind you,

1374
00:46:19,965 --> 00:46:21,105
from East Palestine,

1375
00:46:21,565 --> 00:46:22,764
and I I'm willing to bet you it's

1376
00:46:22,764 --> 00:46:23,965
even more than this, but this is what

1377
00:46:23,965 --> 00:46:26,204
they admitted after the fact. This article came

1378
00:46:26,204 --> 00:46:26,704
out

1379
00:46:27,405 --> 00:46:28,385
in 2024.

1380
00:46:30,445 --> 00:46:31,184
East Palestine,

1381
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:33,519
which was what? 2020

1382
00:46:34,059 --> 00:46:35,260
what was the exact well, give me the

1383
00:46:35,260 --> 00:46:36,539
exact date in the chat if you remember.

1384
00:46:36,539 --> 00:46:38,699
Years ago. We're talking about something that we

1385
00:46:38,699 --> 00:46:39,840
called when it happened.

1386
00:46:40,300 --> 00:46:41,920
We were talking about the reality

1387
00:46:42,460 --> 00:46:44,300
of when it was happening that we knew

1388
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:46,275
this was going much further because of the

1389
00:46:46,275 --> 00:46:48,114
smoke, because of the and, of course, we

1390
00:46:48,114 --> 00:46:49,174
got pushed back on.

1391
00:46:49,554 --> 00:46:52,594
Conspiracy theorist, alarmists. The point is they've then

1392
00:46:52,594 --> 00:46:54,375
later, in June of 2024,

1393
00:46:54,914 --> 00:46:55,414
admitted

1394
00:46:55,954 --> 00:46:56,454
chemicals,

1395
00:46:57,315 --> 00:46:58,914
one of the one the one we know

1396
00:46:58,914 --> 00:47:00,309
for sure that even they had to admit,

1397
00:47:00,309 --> 00:47:02,469
which was the highest problem, the dioxins, which

1398
00:47:02,469 --> 00:47:03,750
by the way, we'll show you again in

1399
00:47:03,750 --> 00:47:06,409
a minute, travel thousands of miles.

1400
00:47:06,949 --> 00:47:09,589
When as dioxins become airborne, they travel thousands

1401
00:47:09,589 --> 00:47:11,510
of miles. We knew this then, as they

1402
00:47:11,510 --> 00:47:13,130
did too. This is from 1995.

1403
00:47:15,275 --> 00:47:16,175
The point was

1404
00:47:16,954 --> 00:47:20,335
spread to 16 states, dioxins and whatever else.

1405
00:47:20,715 --> 00:47:23,755
Sixteen states across. Remember, they had a couple

1406
00:47:23,755 --> 00:47:24,494
mile radius.

1407
00:47:24,795 --> 00:47:26,335
They shut it down real quick.

1408
00:47:27,609 --> 00:47:30,010
How did Ryan Christian know? How did Scott

1409
00:47:30,010 --> 00:47:32,409
c Smith know? Because Scott is an expert.

1410
00:47:32,409 --> 00:47:34,250
I look to their work because we care.

1411
00:47:34,250 --> 00:47:34,989
We research.

1412
00:47:35,449 --> 00:47:37,690
Your government chose to hide this from you.

1413
00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:39,230
So in this context today,

1414
00:47:41,284 --> 00:47:42,505
where were we? Here.

1415
00:47:46,404 --> 00:47:47,304
Here we go.

1416
00:47:47,844 --> 00:47:48,664
Let's recognize

1417
00:47:49,204 --> 00:47:50,184
that this,

1418
00:47:51,284 --> 00:47:53,605
whether any of these, is going very, very

1419
00:47:53,605 --> 00:47:55,320
far and is landing in the in the

1420
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:56,760
ground. And the the point was all of

1421
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,680
the sediment and all the bird ash was

1422
00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,180
landing

1423
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:01,960
16 states across. That ends up in the

1424
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,800
soil, in the sediment, in the water, in

1425
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,460
the food.

1426
00:48:05,079 --> 00:48:06,519
It's not a joke. It's very easy to

1427
00:48:06,519 --> 00:48:08,220
prove, and that doesn't go away.

1428
00:48:09,675 --> 00:48:11,195
Now it says there are many studies on

1429
00:48:11,195 --> 00:48:13,934
airborne and food dioxins as the main sources

1430
00:48:13,994 --> 00:48:16,474
in different countries, but there are not many

1431
00:48:16,474 --> 00:48:19,215
general reports on dioxin contaminated soil,

1432
00:48:19,595 --> 00:48:21,295
especially for the bioremediation

1433
00:48:21,675 --> 00:48:23,660
of dioxins in soil. You know why? Because

1434
00:48:23,660 --> 00:48:24,619
they don't wanna they don't know how to

1435
00:48:24,619 --> 00:48:25,360
deal with this.

1436
00:48:25,739 --> 00:48:27,420
So, ultimately, they're not even trying to look

1437
00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:29,019
into it because we don't need to the

1438
00:48:29,019 --> 00:48:30,700
point, we don't know. So we don't need

1439
00:48:30,700 --> 00:48:32,539
more evidence showing us that we caused a

1440
00:48:32,539 --> 00:48:34,940
problem that we can't solve, or maybe it's

1441
00:48:34,940 --> 00:48:35,840
deeper than that.

1442
00:48:36,724 --> 00:48:38,005
Now it says depending on the number of

1443
00:48:38,005 --> 00:48:39,765
chlorine atoms, that this is the point actually,

1444
00:48:39,765 --> 00:48:41,284
I'll I'll grab that study too. I forgot

1445
00:48:41,284 --> 00:48:42,184
to grab that one.

1446
00:48:42,644 --> 00:48:44,244
And this is something that's very easy to

1447
00:48:44,244 --> 00:48:45,945
prove, but in case you wanted to see,

1448
00:48:46,644 --> 00:48:48,344
it's a it's a study from 2020,

1449
00:48:49,139 --> 00:48:51,400
or was it let me see. 20 2001,

1450
00:48:51,539 --> 00:48:53,319
excuse me, about specifically

1451
00:48:53,940 --> 00:48:56,739
chlorine combustion and dioxins. And the point simply

1452
00:48:56,739 --> 00:48:59,299
being that since every molecule of dioxin contains

1453
00:48:59,299 --> 00:49:01,219
2 or more atoms of chlorine, chlorine is

1454
00:49:01,219 --> 00:49:03,859
a necessity for dioxin formation. Therefore, when no

1455
00:49:03,859 --> 00:49:06,464
chlorine is present, no dioxins are formed. Chlorine

1456
00:49:06,464 --> 00:49:08,545
being the central dynamic in all of this.

1457
00:49:08,545 --> 00:49:09,764
Remember, in Georgia,

1458
00:49:10,065 --> 00:49:12,565
it literally was chlorine that burned. Not chlorine,

1459
00:49:12,864 --> 00:49:15,585
oxad, or chlorvinyl chloride, but just chlorine on

1460
00:49:15,585 --> 00:49:18,224
plastic pellets. So, like, the perfect storm is

1461
00:49:18,224 --> 00:49:18,804
the point,

1462
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:21,679
which is why Scott himself said that this

1463
00:49:21,679 --> 00:49:24,480
could be the biggest disaster dioxin related in

1464
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:24,980
history.

1465
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:26,800
So that they're saying here, depending on the

1466
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,199
number of chlorine atoms is ultimately the depend

1467
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,119
the dependent on what gets worse all the

1468
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:33,545
way to the the top example, which is

1469
00:49:33,545 --> 00:49:35,864
t c d d. Interestingly, in case this

1470
00:49:36,025 --> 00:49:37,944
it find this interesting as well, it points

1471
00:49:37,944 --> 00:49:39,704
to the idea being that they are highly

1472
00:49:39,704 --> 00:49:40,924
toxic because, specifically,

1473
00:49:41,385 --> 00:49:43,784
they have chlorine atoms at positions 2, 3,

1474
00:49:43,784 --> 00:49:45,530
7, and 8. That's why 2, 3, 7,

1475
00:49:45,530 --> 00:49:46,269
8 TCDD

1476
00:49:46,650 --> 00:49:48,989
is the general term for the most dangerous

1477
00:49:49,050 --> 00:49:50,269
dioxin formation,

1478
00:49:50,889 --> 00:49:52,650
and it's the most dangerous chemical we know

1479
00:49:52,650 --> 00:49:53,150
of.

1480
00:49:53,449 --> 00:49:55,130
Studies have shown, it says, that the emissions

1481
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:57,630
of dioxins in the environment is mainly caused

1482
00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:58,429
by humans.

1483
00:49:59,405 --> 00:50:01,164
So this is it's not they love the

1484
00:50:01,164 --> 00:50:03,505
point that, like, for example, volcanoes release dioxins.

1485
00:50:03,644 --> 00:50:05,105
The there are natural examples.

1486
00:50:05,644 --> 00:50:08,125
But the the vast majority, according to every

1487
00:50:08,125 --> 00:50:10,925
study I've seen, is because of burn pits,

1488
00:50:10,925 --> 00:50:11,744
because of

1489
00:50:12,219 --> 00:50:12,719
incineration,

1490
00:50:13,019 --> 00:50:14,860
because of military activity. And we'll go over

1491
00:50:14,860 --> 00:50:16,059
that in a second. I think some of

1492
00:50:16,059 --> 00:50:18,079
them show right here. That's that's

1493
00:50:18,699 --> 00:50:20,699
human act action, and it's not because of

1494
00:50:20,699 --> 00:50:23,099
Joe with his trash can. It's because of

1495
00:50:23,099 --> 00:50:24,079
government stuff.

1496
00:50:24,855 --> 00:50:26,855
Now he they add to it backyard burn

1497
00:50:26,855 --> 00:50:28,775
piss. They the EPA has all sorts of

1498
00:50:28,775 --> 00:50:30,695
data about why backyard burn pits are the

1499
00:50:30,695 --> 00:50:33,195
dioxin problem. But when it comes to anything

1500
00:50:33,414 --> 00:50:35,974
central to the government or business, weirdly, they

1501
00:50:35,974 --> 00:50:37,594
forget what dioxins even mean.

1502
00:50:38,380 --> 00:50:40,619
That's the that's the main thing here. But

1503
00:50:40,619 --> 00:50:42,059
it says studies have shown that the emissions

1504
00:50:42,059 --> 00:50:43,739
of dioxins in the environment is mainly caused

1505
00:50:43,739 --> 00:50:45,679
by humans. The main anthropogenic

1506
00:50:46,300 --> 00:50:48,159
origins of dioxins are classified

1507
00:50:48,619 --> 00:50:49,679
into 3 sources,

1508
00:50:49,980 --> 00:50:50,480
incineration,

1509
00:50:51,315 --> 00:50:53,494
combustion, and industrial processes.

1510
00:50:54,994 --> 00:50:57,655
All high level corporate government overlaps.

1511
00:50:58,275 --> 00:50:59,494
The World Health Organization

1512
00:51:00,594 --> 00:51:03,155
in has recommended in 2005 that the standard

1513
00:51:03,155 --> 00:51:04,614
exposure levels of dioxins

1514
00:51:05,319 --> 00:51:06,859
as 1 to 4 pictograms,

1515
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:11,179
TEQ being the, the toxic equivalency

1516
00:51:11,639 --> 00:51:12,139
factor

1517
00:51:13,319 --> 00:51:15,739
per kilogram of body weight per one day.

1518
00:51:16,199 --> 00:51:18,280
Now remember now the thing is there's also

1519
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:19,099
using different

1520
00:51:20,045 --> 00:51:22,525
measurements from kilogram or pictogram or, you know,

1521
00:51:22,525 --> 00:51:24,605
the or rather specifically, it would be, parts

1522
00:51:24,605 --> 00:51:26,845
per billion, parts per trillion. The point is,

1523
00:51:26,845 --> 00:51:28,765
generally speaking, we're talking about the at least

1524
00:51:28,765 --> 00:51:31,265
the WHO is saying 1 to 4 pictograms

1525
00:51:32,525 --> 00:51:33,025
toxicity

1526
00:51:33,325 --> 00:51:33,825
equivalency

1527
00:51:34,949 --> 00:51:37,369
per kilogram of body weight per day, or

1528
00:51:38,469 --> 00:51:39,210
point 0 7

1529
00:51:39,909 --> 00:51:40,409
0.07

1530
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:44,150
parts per trillion in the blood. Think about

1531
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:44,650
that.

1532
00:51:45,269 --> 00:51:45,769
0.07

1533
00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:47,690
parts per trillion

1534
00:51:48,230 --> 00:51:49,769
just ending up in your blood.

1535
00:51:50,394 --> 00:51:52,715
Now let's be very clear. What was happening

1536
00:51:52,715 --> 00:51:53,695
in East Palestine

1537
00:51:54,075 --> 00:51:55,675
was more than that. They were I know

1538
00:51:55,755 --> 00:51:56,875
I I mean, we can show you the

1539
00:51:56,875 --> 00:51:58,875
examples of, for ex where was the one

1540
00:51:58,875 --> 00:51:59,535
right here

1541
00:52:00,394 --> 00:52:03,355
of Scott finding specifically in the filters and

1542
00:52:03,355 --> 00:52:03,855
homes

1543
00:52:04,630 --> 00:52:06,949
well past when this happened in East Palestine.

1544
00:52:06,949 --> 00:52:08,010
It's on July 2nd.

1545
00:52:08,309 --> 00:52:09,369
Up to 14,000

1546
00:52:10,469 --> 00:52:11,690
percent more dioxins

1547
00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:13,829
in their filters and their homes than compared

1548
00:52:13,829 --> 00:52:16,150
to a control somewhere else. So let's be

1549
00:52:16,150 --> 00:52:18,150
very clear that we're talking about the obvious

1550
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:19,909
reality that there was more than this in

1551
00:52:19,909 --> 00:52:20,204
their

1552
00:52:21,325 --> 00:52:23,085
the reason this was a problem or even

1553
00:52:23,085 --> 00:52:24,285
compared, as we'll get to in a minute,

1554
00:52:24,285 --> 00:52:27,005
in the Cebeso disaster, still arguably one of,

1555
00:52:27,005 --> 00:52:28,844
according to Time Magazine, one of the top

1556
00:52:28,844 --> 00:52:29,585
10 environmental

1557
00:52:29,885 --> 00:52:31,965
disasters in the world. Now it says the

1558
00:52:31,965 --> 00:52:32,945
general environmental

1559
00:52:33,405 --> 00:52:35,809
limit in most countries is 1200

1560
00:52:36,670 --> 00:52:37,570
parts per trillion,

1561
00:52:38,110 --> 00:52:41,070
toxicology equivalent in soil and a 150 parts

1562
00:52:41,070 --> 00:52:42,450
per trillion in sediment.

1563
00:52:43,710 --> 00:52:45,230
So just think about that overlap and keep

1564
00:52:45,230 --> 00:52:46,269
these numbers in your mind as we go

1565
00:52:46,269 --> 00:52:47,869
into the next ones because the reality is

1566
00:52:47,869 --> 00:52:49,789
I'm pretty sure we're dealing with much higher

1567
00:52:49,789 --> 00:52:51,755
levels with what we're discussing today.

1568
00:52:52,454 --> 00:52:54,375
Now, again, these are my opinions. I'm not

1569
00:52:54,454 --> 00:52:56,534
the the I always refer

1570
00:52:56,855 --> 00:52:58,635
we should wait for the studies

1571
00:52:59,014 --> 00:53:01,174
coming from people like Scott or other independent

1572
00:53:01,174 --> 00:53:03,494
experts. Sadly, we're getting far less attention on

1573
00:53:03,494 --> 00:53:05,460
the Georgia discussion. In east Palestine, there was

1574
00:53:05,539 --> 00:53:08,099
Texas a and m, multiple, you know, independent

1575
00:53:08,099 --> 00:53:10,179
experts were there. I believe Steven Lesher was

1576
00:53:10,179 --> 00:53:11,300
even one of them, if I remember correctly.

1577
00:53:11,300 --> 00:53:13,219
But the point is that no less people

1578
00:53:13,219 --> 00:53:14,659
are paying attention to this one, and this

1579
00:53:14,659 --> 00:53:16,440
one seems to be objectively larger.

1580
00:53:16,980 --> 00:53:19,719
Dioxin, it says, as a dangerous threat agent

1581
00:53:19,815 --> 00:53:22,534
to the environment and humans are associated with

1582
00:53:22,534 --> 00:53:25,734
severe damage to human health, shortening the lives

1583
00:53:25,734 --> 00:53:26,635
of those exposed

1584
00:53:27,014 --> 00:53:29,255
and potentially shortening the lives of their children

1585
00:53:29,255 --> 00:53:32,150
in future generations. So to Catherine's point. And

1586
00:53:32,150 --> 00:53:33,510
the larger point of why I think this,

1587
00:53:33,510 --> 00:53:35,510
if it is deliberate, is a well planned

1588
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:37,610
effort because it's not easily identified.

1589
00:53:38,390 --> 00:53:40,630
You other than the chloracne, which that's only

1590
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:42,950
acute exposure. You don't need the acute exposure

1591
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:44,890
to have the diminishing of your lifespan

1592
00:53:45,215 --> 00:53:47,695
or cancers or whatever that happened decade later

1593
00:53:47,695 --> 00:53:49,054
and no one knows what's you you don't

1594
00:53:49,054 --> 00:53:51,135
you don't notice it. You you may have

1595
00:53:51,135 --> 00:53:52,574
some nausea. You feel a little bit sick

1596
00:53:52,574 --> 00:53:54,175
that day, and then suddenly years later, you

1597
00:53:54,175 --> 00:53:56,335
have cancer and you have immune system problems.

1598
00:53:56,335 --> 00:53:58,094
You can't have a child. That's what this

1599
00:53:58,094 --> 00:53:58,755
is causing.

1600
00:53:59,829 --> 00:54:01,429
So if they wanted to pick something where

1601
00:54:01,429 --> 00:54:03,510
it would be impossible to identify, well, they

1602
00:54:03,510 --> 00:54:04,329
nailed it.

1603
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:06,549
But it says when dioxin levels in humans

1604
00:54:06,549 --> 00:54:08,089
exceed the allowable threshold

1605
00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,369
of 0.0

1606
00:54:10,469 --> 00:54:11,849
or 0 0.0064

1607
00:54:13,429 --> 00:54:13,929
pictograms

1608
00:54:14,344 --> 00:54:16,184
per kilogram of the human body. Think of

1609
00:54:16,184 --> 00:54:17,244
how small that is.

1610
00:54:17,625 --> 00:54:19,625
Dark patches of skin appear quickly as a

1611
00:54:19,625 --> 00:54:22,824
result of cell death, mutated pigment cells, and

1612
00:54:22,824 --> 00:54:24,904
impaired liver and kidney liver and kidney function.

1613
00:54:24,904 --> 00:54:26,924
Guys, we've seen provable examples

1614
00:54:27,739 --> 00:54:28,480
of chloracne

1615
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:30,940
of that woman, exactly what we're talking about

1616
00:54:30,940 --> 00:54:32,719
in the last the last show we did.

1617
00:54:33,339 --> 00:54:36,319
In fact, this this man's wife right here

1618
00:54:36,380 --> 00:54:38,780
in this show, showing you this wild rash

1619
00:54:38,780 --> 00:54:40,380
all over her body. We've shown you the

1620
00:54:40,380 --> 00:54:43,655
chloracne conversation from East Palestine. So they're saying

1621
00:54:44,434 --> 00:54:45,414
when it exceeds

1622
00:54:45,715 --> 00:54:46,215
point

1623
00:54:46,675 --> 00:54:47,894
0064 pictograms

1624
00:54:48,195 --> 00:54:50,515
per kilogram of human body weight that you

1625
00:54:50,515 --> 00:54:51,574
you get that response.

1626
00:54:51,954 --> 00:54:52,934
And they're referencing

1627
00:54:53,235 --> 00:54:55,394
the chloracne for the acute exposure for the

1628
00:54:55,394 --> 00:54:56,454
historic examples.

1629
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,639
I mean, I think this all pretty obviously

1630
00:54:58,639 --> 00:55:00,400
adds up that we're dealing with something serious

1631
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:02,480
here. And it says if long term exposure

1632
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,359
to levels exceed the threshold, dioxins will affect

1633
00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:06,420
the immune system,

1634
00:55:06,799 --> 00:55:10,434
endocrine glands, and reproductive functions, leading to some

1635
00:55:10,434 --> 00:55:12,755
cancers, diseases of the central and peripheral nervous

1636
00:55:12,755 --> 00:55:16,534
systems, thyroid disorders, immune system damage, and endometrosis,

1637
00:55:17,635 --> 00:55:18,375
which is

1638
00:55:18,835 --> 00:55:21,414
a condition resulting from the appearance of endo

1639
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:23,860
endometrial

1640
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,460
tissue outside the uterus and causing pelvic pain,

1641
00:55:27,519 --> 00:55:28,739
diabetes, etcetera.

1642
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:32,559
I mean, all of these things interestingly overlap

1643
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:33,920
with I mean, you could overlap them with

1644
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,905
the COVID 19 shot side byproducts. You could

1645
00:55:36,905 --> 00:55:38,425
overlap with it with other endocrine or something

1646
00:55:38,425 --> 00:55:40,184
chemicals. I mean, this is like a perfect

1647
00:55:40,184 --> 00:55:42,505
storm for exactly what we're discussing, whether it's

1648
00:55:42,505 --> 00:55:44,664
shortening the lifespan or just causing illness that

1649
00:55:44,664 --> 00:55:46,264
can reap benefits of big pharma. You can

1650
00:55:46,264 --> 00:55:48,025
decide what the what you think makes the

1651
00:55:48,025 --> 00:55:50,505
most sense. I just want people to acknowledge

1652
00:55:50,505 --> 00:55:51,324
this is happening.

1653
00:55:52,139 --> 00:55:54,699
Right? Acknowledge the problem so we can actually

1654
00:55:54,699 --> 00:55:55,440
solve this.

1655
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:57,659
Now it says as a result, children of

1656
00:55:57,659 --> 00:56:00,559
exposed parents were born with many tragic deformities.

1657
00:56:00,779 --> 00:56:02,299
So think about that. So you're in East

1658
00:56:02,299 --> 00:56:02,799
Palestine,

1659
00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:05,019
or anywhere else we're talking about this, and

1660
00:56:05,019 --> 00:56:05,839
you got exposed,

1661
00:56:06,594 --> 00:56:08,594
the potential reality is you might already be

1662
00:56:08,594 --> 00:56:10,114
suffering from these problems. And that's one of

1663
00:56:10,114 --> 00:56:11,315
the reasons why I think they didn't want

1664
00:56:11,315 --> 00:56:12,594
you to be able to take a test

1665
00:56:12,594 --> 00:56:14,535
to show you had dioxins in your blood

1666
00:56:14,594 --> 00:56:16,515
right after the problem. Because you do it

1667
00:56:16,515 --> 00:56:18,114
today, well, they're gonna pretend, well, we don't

1668
00:56:18,114 --> 00:56:19,635
know. There's a background level. You may have

1669
00:56:19,635 --> 00:56:21,960
gotten it from that volcano, whatever. Or that

1670
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,719
burning plant next to your house. The problem

1671
00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:25,079
is that when they kick it down the

1672
00:56:25,079 --> 00:56:27,159
road, it becomes very difficult to connect to

1673
00:56:27,159 --> 00:56:29,880
what just happened. So let me reiterate that

1674
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,880
in case you missed the earlier point. There's

1675
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,719
multiple videos that we've showed. In the shows

1676
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:34,920
right there that I just left for you

1677
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,934
the links of people in their

1678
00:56:37,235 --> 00:56:39,954
hospital speaking to somebody, and the nurse saying,

1679
00:56:39,954 --> 00:56:41,954
I'm not they were told not to give

1680
00:56:41,954 --> 00:56:42,695
these tests.

1681
00:56:43,315 --> 00:56:44,755
Even though they were being told by the

1682
00:56:44,755 --> 00:56:46,454
EPA to go get them.

1683
00:56:47,394 --> 00:56:48,855
There's an issue there, obviously.

1684
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:51,219
And

1685
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,480
having the children of the parents exposed having

1686
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,219
tragic deformities. Some children lived in a vegetative

1687
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,179
state from birth.

1688
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,239
Now, we talk about things like autism and

1689
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:01,755
all sorts of other things that were like,

1690
00:57:02,554 --> 00:57:05,194
was it the sudden infant death syndrome which

1691
00:57:05,194 --> 00:57:07,034
are you know, or really just this a

1692
00:57:07,034 --> 00:57:08,795
category for we don't know what happened, and

1693
00:57:08,795 --> 00:57:10,234
that's the truth of that. You look it

1694
00:57:10,234 --> 00:57:11,674
up, it's it's just a catch all for

1695
00:57:11,674 --> 00:57:13,034
what we don't know why we don't know

1696
00:57:13,034 --> 00:57:15,214
why they died. That and yet they diagnose

1697
00:57:15,355 --> 00:57:15,855
that.

1698
00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:18,260
This is their cell system is so broken.

1699
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:20,559
So vegetative state from birth, of course, you

1700
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,400
know, the the ideas that never gets related

1701
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,000
to things they don't wanna talk about, like

1702
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,519
vaccination, for example. The association between dioxins exposure

1703
00:57:27,519 --> 00:57:28,739
and 5 diseases,

1704
00:57:29,434 --> 00:57:30,894
such as soft tissue cancer,

1705
00:57:31,835 --> 00:57:32,815
benign lymphoma,

1706
00:57:33,114 --> 00:57:34,655
chronic lympho lymphocytic

1707
00:57:35,675 --> 00:57:36,175
leukemia,

1708
00:57:37,355 --> 00:57:39,114
hairy leukemia cancer, and,

1709
00:57:39,594 --> 00:57:40,094
cholosis

1710
00:57:40,394 --> 00:57:43,594
was also noted. Some diseases associated with dioxin

1711
00:57:43,594 --> 00:57:46,300
exposure, such as acute chronic and subacute

1712
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:47,659
peripheral neuropathy,

1713
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:48,860
chlorosis,

1714
00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:51,980
type 2 diabetes, liver cancer, lipid

1715
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:52,780
metabolism

1716
00:57:53,159 --> 00:57:53,659
disorders,

1717
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:54,780
reproductive

1718
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:55,900
abnormalities

1719
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,360
and birth defects such as cleft lip and

1720
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:00,394
palate. See these things, they would never associate

1721
00:58:00,394 --> 00:58:01,135
with this.

1722
00:58:01,434 --> 00:58:03,295
Congenital malformities of the legs,

1723
00:58:04,235 --> 00:58:04,735
hydrocephalus,

1724
00:58:06,795 --> 00:58:08,014
neural tube defects,

1725
00:58:08,315 --> 00:58:10,474
adhesions, sticky fingers or toes. I don't even

1726
00:58:10,474 --> 00:58:12,175
know what that means. Muscle malformations

1727
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:15,599
and paralysis have also been observed as direct

1728
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:17,619
byproducts of dioxin exposure.

1729
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,599
None of those things are related. But you

1730
00:58:19,599 --> 00:58:20,960
you see these things happen, they just go,

1731
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,179
that's just part of life.

1732
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,460
Probably not.

1733
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,974
What I think is interesting, I the thought

1734
00:58:25,974 --> 00:58:27,574
about, like so we're gonna point out as

1735
00:58:27,574 --> 00:58:29,414
we have many times about the the the

1736
00:58:29,414 --> 00:58:30,234
fat accumulation.

1737
00:58:30,934 --> 00:58:33,014
So, ultimately, 7 year for men. I'll I

1738
00:58:33,014 --> 00:58:34,054
forget the we'll get to it in a

1739
00:58:34,054 --> 00:58:35,894
second. I think it's 17 or higher for

1740
00:58:35,894 --> 00:58:38,074
women. That's the half life in your body.

1741
00:58:38,670 --> 00:58:40,349
But it's interesting that they send they seem

1742
00:58:40,349 --> 00:58:41,489
to focus on lipids.

1743
00:58:41,869 --> 00:58:43,069
And I just thought that was an interesting

1744
00:58:43,069 --> 00:58:44,829
overlap because this could be something else going

1745
00:58:44,829 --> 00:58:46,829
on around any number of things where lipids

1746
00:58:46,829 --> 00:58:48,909
are used in previous conversations. But it says

1747
00:58:48,909 --> 00:58:50,670
the half life of dioxins in the soil

1748
00:58:50,670 --> 00:58:52,369
is from 60 to 80 years.

1749
00:58:52,670 --> 00:58:53,969
Think about that.

1750
00:58:54,375 --> 00:58:57,094
The half life. So if this like, with

1751
00:58:57,094 --> 00:58:59,815
East Palestine, 16 states across, that means that

1752
00:58:59,815 --> 00:59:00,875
it is in the soil

1753
00:59:01,735 --> 00:59:03,735
for 60 to 80 years as the half

1754
00:59:03,735 --> 00:59:04,235
life.

1755
00:59:05,255 --> 00:59:07,914
I don't know. The the that's exactly why

1756
00:59:08,309 --> 00:59:10,329
I don't think people wanna acknowledge this.

1757
00:59:10,869 --> 00:59:12,309
And it says, and at the same time,

1758
00:59:12,309 --> 00:59:14,070
it persists for a long time in the

1759
00:59:14,070 --> 00:59:14,570
environment.

1760
00:59:14,949 --> 00:59:16,890
Seeps into the soil and sediments

1761
00:59:17,269 --> 00:59:20,150
and mid and migrates into vegetation and aquatic

1762
00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:21,884
life, leading to bioaccumulation

1763
00:59:22,264 --> 00:59:24,184
in the soil, in the food chain, and

1764
00:59:24,184 --> 00:59:25,324
in your body

1765
00:59:26,424 --> 00:59:27,964
when you consume those things.

1766
00:59:28,664 --> 00:59:30,824
Environmental pollution, it goes on in general, and

1767
00:59:30,824 --> 00:59:32,924
dioxin pollution in the soil in particular

1768
00:59:33,224 --> 00:59:35,144
are markedly on the rise. This is in

1769
00:59:35,144 --> 00:59:35,644
2022.

1770
00:59:36,329 --> 00:59:37,769
So as we'll go through again and go

1771
00:59:37,769 --> 00:59:39,769
back to the earlier points where they're discussing

1772
00:59:39,769 --> 00:59:41,769
in 1995 about why this is such a

1773
00:59:41,769 --> 00:59:44,010
big problem, and my key my point is

1774
00:59:44,010 --> 00:59:45,610
that they didn't do anything. Well, we can

1775
00:59:45,610 --> 00:59:46,349
see that.

1776
00:59:47,130 --> 00:59:49,450
Despite the conversations of the small actions of

1777
00:59:49,450 --> 00:59:49,950
potentially

1778
00:59:50,329 --> 00:59:53,505
bio remediation of certain locations. The point is

1779
00:59:53,505 --> 00:59:55,824
the regulations whether again now, again, this is

1780
00:59:55,824 --> 00:59:57,264
a good point to make about, like, the

1781
00:59:57,264 --> 00:59:58,885
Elon Musk in removing regulations.

1782
00:59:59,505 --> 01:00:01,364
I'm of the mind that we don't need

1783
01:00:01,905 --> 01:00:03,364
a state in general

1784
01:00:03,829 --> 01:00:05,429
Because I would argue if the state didn't

1785
01:00:05,429 --> 01:00:07,429
exist, things like this wouldn't exist. You think

1786
01:00:07,429 --> 01:00:09,429
the biolab plant's gonna last very long in

1787
01:00:09,429 --> 01:00:11,510
that county when the state's not protecting them?

1788
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:12,949
The people would have run them out of

1789
01:00:12,949 --> 01:00:14,570
town. My point is that

1790
01:00:15,030 --> 01:00:17,234
with no state, there wouldn't be regulation, but

1791
01:00:17,234 --> 01:00:18,275
I might that was a point I just

1792
01:00:18,275 --> 01:00:20,694
made. But if you're gonna have a state,

1793
01:00:20,835 --> 01:00:23,155
which obviously we will under Trump's administration, but

1794
01:00:23,155 --> 01:00:25,315
then remove the regulation from business, all you're

1795
01:00:25,315 --> 01:00:27,795
doing is this. You're allowing these businesses to

1796
01:00:27,795 --> 01:00:29,550
do whatever they want like they kind of

1797
01:00:29,550 --> 01:00:31,150
already are, but now there's not even a

1798
01:00:31,150 --> 01:00:34,130
semblance of or an illusion of accountability or

1799
01:00:34,190 --> 01:00:35,090
in in,

1800
01:00:35,550 --> 01:00:36,050
enforcement.

1801
01:00:37,070 --> 01:00:38,849
I think that's an important point to make.

1802
01:00:38,989 --> 01:00:41,070
So as we can see, whether or not

1803
01:00:41,070 --> 01:00:42,989
they're taking small actions here and there, it

1804
01:00:43,070 --> 01:00:43,570
it's

1805
01:00:43,974 --> 01:00:44,474
continually

1806
01:00:44,775 --> 01:00:45,275
increased

1807
01:00:46,534 --> 01:00:48,074
on the rise markedly.

1808
01:00:48,534 --> 01:00:50,295
And it says the main sources of dioxin

1809
01:00:50,295 --> 01:00:51,994
emissions are industrial activities

1810
01:00:52,295 --> 01:00:53,514
such as combustion.

1811
01:00:54,135 --> 01:00:56,454
Now it says dioxin emissions from g 20

1812
01:00:56,454 --> 01:01:00,000
industrial activities account for more than 80% of

1813
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,719
the estimated annual emissions. Don't you love that?

1814
01:01:02,719 --> 01:01:04,800
So all these high minded countries out there

1815
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,079
preaching to the rest of the world about

1816
01:01:06,079 --> 01:01:07,760
how they have to save the planet are

1817
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:08,260
80%

1818
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:10,960
of release of the most dangerous thing we

1819
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:11,619
know about.

1820
01:01:12,174 --> 01:01:14,014
Weird, Heather. We don't talk about that. Right?

1821
01:01:14,014 --> 01:01:15,775
Because it's all a big scam. Now we

1822
01:01:15,775 --> 01:01:17,855
are clearly destroying this planet in a hundred

1823
01:01:17,855 --> 01:01:19,694
different ways, but it's you more than not

1824
01:01:19,694 --> 01:01:21,454
the people pointing at everybody else that are

1825
01:01:21,454 --> 01:01:23,154
doing it. And not with carbon.

1826
01:01:23,454 --> 01:01:25,295
This is about all the other things we're

1827
01:01:25,295 --> 01:01:27,090
dealing with. But I think it kills me

1828
01:01:27,170 --> 01:01:29,329
that we're talking about specifically these countries that

1829
01:01:29,329 --> 01:01:31,570
are 80% of the emissions of what is

1830
01:01:31,570 --> 01:01:32,950
causing a lot of these problems.

1831
01:01:33,570 --> 01:01:34,869
According to Miguel,

1832
01:01:36,610 --> 01:01:37,269
dip DuPico

1833
01:01:38,769 --> 01:01:41,585
and Al and Alberto Gomez, a study from

1834
01:01:41,585 --> 01:01:42,085
2015,

1835
01:01:42,784 --> 01:01:44,724
annual global dioxide emissions

1836
01:01:45,744 --> 01:01:46,565
were 17,226

1837
01:01:47,824 --> 01:01:49,525
kilograms, equivalent to

1838
01:01:49,905 --> 01:01:50,964
287 kilograms

1839
01:01:51,585 --> 01:01:52,244
of the,

1840
01:01:52,625 --> 01:01:53,764
toxin equivalency.

1841
01:01:54,784 --> 01:01:56,760
So we're talking about remember, we're talking about

1842
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:57,739
point 007

1843
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:01,340
parts per trillion in the blood.

1844
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,280
I just think it's very important to think

1845
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:05,800
about. And it says the main sources of

1846
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,700
antioxidants in the soil environment are fuel combustion.

1847
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:10,434
And by the way, I I'm of the

1848
01:02:10,434 --> 01:02:11,875
mind that it's much much more than that,

1849
01:02:11,875 --> 01:02:13,954
quite frankly, but that's the point for you

1850
01:02:13,954 --> 01:02:14,614
to decide.

1851
01:02:16,434 --> 01:02:18,534
The main sources of dioxins in the soil

1852
01:02:19,394 --> 01:02:21,414
in the soil environment are fuel combustion,

1853
01:02:21,795 --> 01:02:23,414
metal production, pesticide

1854
01:02:23,714 --> 01:02:25,014
production, and use,

1855
01:02:25,469 --> 01:02:26,929
of course, waste incineration,

1856
01:02:27,389 --> 01:02:31,389
accidental fires, landfill disposal, combustion, and herbicide runoff

1857
01:02:31,389 --> 01:02:33,469
in agricultural uses. So every single one of

1858
01:02:33,469 --> 01:02:35,150
those things, I would argue we can build

1859
01:02:35,150 --> 01:02:36,769
a world where that's not necessary,

1860
01:02:37,309 --> 01:02:39,045
not in the way they're doing them. But,

1861
01:02:39,045 --> 01:02:40,484
of course, when we you know, that's a

1862
01:02:40,484 --> 01:02:42,025
whole conversation. But, obviously,

1863
01:02:42,484 --> 01:02:44,005
all of these things we discussed in their

1864
01:02:44,005 --> 01:02:45,304
own right as problematic.

1865
01:02:46,085 --> 01:02:47,364
Because all of them are being done in

1866
01:02:47,364 --> 01:02:49,525
ways that aren't considerate of whether they're actually

1867
01:02:49,525 --> 01:02:51,284
causing a bigger problem. And frankly, I think

1868
01:02:51,284 --> 01:02:52,984
a lot of cases doing it on purpose.

1869
01:02:54,159 --> 01:02:56,159
Like, for example, in East Palestine, the land

1870
01:02:56,400 --> 01:02:58,719
landfill disposal, that was the reason these things

1871
01:02:58,719 --> 01:03:00,400
got spread across these states other than the

1872
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:01,219
fire itself

1873
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,320
because they shipped them across country. And, ultimately,

1874
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:05,840
I and there was even the example of

1875
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,744
the of the dump truck that spilled on

1876
01:03:07,744 --> 01:03:09,664
the way. Remember that? It dumped all the

1877
01:03:09,664 --> 01:03:12,644
contaminated soil all over this area. That was

1878
01:03:12,785 --> 01:03:15,025
chock full of dioxins and PFAS, we we

1879
01:03:15,025 --> 01:03:16,945
highlighted the time, neither of which they could

1880
01:03:16,945 --> 01:03:18,704
deal with but didn't care. They shipped it

1881
01:03:18,704 --> 01:03:20,549
across other states and buried it or tried

1882
01:03:20,549 --> 01:03:22,030
to burn it in one of the locations,

1883
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:24,030
which we could prove then wasn't even hot

1884
01:03:24,030 --> 01:03:25,550
enough. I called them on the phone. I

1885
01:03:25,550 --> 01:03:26,369
talked to them.

1886
01:03:27,550 --> 01:03:29,150
Of course, that doesn't get any good coverage

1887
01:03:29,150 --> 01:03:31,389
because that's real journalism, guys. We don't get

1888
01:03:31,389 --> 01:03:33,434
the we're gonna talk anyway, the point is

1889
01:03:33,434 --> 01:03:35,515
that shit in any other real world, that

1890
01:03:35,515 --> 01:03:37,275
kind of conversation where I have on the

1891
01:03:37,275 --> 01:03:39,515
phone evidence of them admitting they couldn't deal

1892
01:03:39,515 --> 01:03:40,875
with what we knew was there, that would

1893
01:03:40,954 --> 01:03:42,954
should've been a bombshell. But, of course, not

1894
01:03:42,954 --> 01:03:43,454
TLav.

1895
01:03:43,835 --> 01:03:46,555
Dioxin concentrations have not decreased in Europe in

1896
01:03:46,555 --> 01:03:48,094
recent years, but instead

1897
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:50,010
have increased significantly

1898
01:03:50,469 --> 01:03:52,789
due to new dioxin emission sources. So not

1899
01:03:52,789 --> 01:03:54,389
only, and this is my point about that,

1900
01:03:54,389 --> 01:03:56,150
are they not really doing anything to stop

1901
01:03:56,150 --> 01:03:59,190
what's there, there's more emission sources popping up

1902
01:03:59,190 --> 01:03:59,929
every day.

1903
01:04:00,545 --> 01:04:02,224
So not only are they trying to hide

1904
01:04:02,224 --> 01:04:03,744
the problem they created, they're not even trying

1905
01:04:03,744 --> 01:04:05,445
to stop it continually growing.

1906
01:04:05,825 --> 01:04:07,265
And this is Europe, but the same thing's

1907
01:04:07,265 --> 01:04:08,565
happening in the United States.

1908
01:04:08,945 --> 01:04:11,265
That is crazy to me because of how

1909
01:04:11,265 --> 01:04:13,170
clearly we can see what this is doing.

1910
01:04:14,049 --> 01:04:15,730
Now it says similar to the results of

1911
01:04:15,730 --> 01:04:18,690
search searching for research documents on the situation

1912
01:04:18,690 --> 01:04:21,250
of dioxin pollution in the soils of European

1913
01:04:21,250 --> 01:04:21,750
countries.

1914
01:04:22,130 --> 01:04:25,250
There are few data on the situation of

1915
01:04:25,250 --> 01:04:28,130
soil research in America in recent years. Gee,

1916
01:04:28,130 --> 01:04:30,894
I wonder why. In general, across the United

1917
01:04:30,894 --> 01:04:32,275
States, dioxin concentrations

1918
01:04:32,574 --> 01:04:35,214
in urban soil are generally higher than in

1919
01:04:35,214 --> 01:04:37,214
rural, which makes sense because more out in

1920
01:04:37,214 --> 01:04:39,375
the open, there's less sources of this, which

1921
01:04:39,375 --> 01:04:41,454
shows you that it's not backyard burn pits.

1922
01:04:41,454 --> 01:04:42,994
It is government processes

1923
01:04:43,619 --> 01:04:46,119
with maximum concentrations reaching a 186

1924
01:04:46,579 --> 01:04:49,139
n g per kilogram according to the toxin

1925
01:04:49,139 --> 01:04:50,759
equivalency in urban areas.

1926
01:04:55,474 --> 01:04:57,574
And it says the main source of dioxin

1927
01:04:57,635 --> 01:05:00,375
contaminated soil in industrial production activities

1928
01:05:00,675 --> 01:05:01,655
is industrial

1929
01:05:01,954 --> 01:05:02,934
production activities

1930
01:05:03,235 --> 01:05:05,414
followed by the consequences of war.

1931
01:05:05,954 --> 01:05:08,855
But look at that. Producing high dioxin concentrations

1932
01:05:08,994 --> 01:05:10,295
and widespread infection.

1933
01:05:11,340 --> 01:05:13,019
Of course, one of the main reasons they

1934
01:05:13,019 --> 01:05:14,700
don't wanna hide the problem is because, well,

1935
01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:16,940
we can't stop the war state. Otherwise, this

1936
01:05:16,940 --> 01:05:19,660
country would collapse or, specifically, the government would

1937
01:05:19,660 --> 01:05:21,440
collapse. Maybe we should want that.

1938
01:05:21,740 --> 01:05:23,815
How about we should want that? The point

1939
01:05:23,815 --> 01:05:24,954
is that this is

1940
01:05:25,255 --> 01:05:27,574
another clear example of something they will never

1941
01:05:27,574 --> 01:05:29,655
decouple from. Sort of like we talked about

1942
01:05:29,655 --> 01:05:31,414
the ESG thing, which none of us should

1943
01:05:31,414 --> 01:05:33,974
wanna support because of how clearly corrupted even

1944
01:05:33,974 --> 01:05:35,454
even the idea that we should act anyway,

1945
01:05:35,454 --> 01:05:37,594
the no. The point is

1946
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,280
they tried to pretend like, no. We we

1947
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:43,420
we know nuclear power or, rather, nuclear

1948
01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:46,599
weapons or oil use or whatever else are

1949
01:05:46,599 --> 01:05:48,519
ESG compliant because we use them to fight

1950
01:05:48,519 --> 01:05:50,199
for freedom. And so it showed you that

1951
01:05:50,199 --> 01:05:52,425
even their game, they didn't they didn't even

1952
01:05:52,425 --> 01:05:53,864
apply it to themselves because they just gave

1953
01:05:53,864 --> 01:05:56,025
themselves a pass because we use those bad

1954
01:05:56,025 --> 01:05:57,224
things to fight for freedom, so it's a

1955
01:05:57,224 --> 01:05:59,724
net positive. It's, like, just absolutely ridiculous.

1956
01:06:00,664 --> 01:06:02,905
The point is that war being a leading

1957
01:06:02,905 --> 01:06:05,465
cause of these releases makes perfect sense why

1958
01:06:05,465 --> 01:06:07,085
they wouldn't wanna address it.

1959
01:06:07,679 --> 01:06:09,280
You have to understand, like I've said many

1960
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,359
times, this government runs on the blood of

1961
01:06:11,359 --> 01:06:12,099
other nations.

1962
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,460
And if not, what American people want, hardly.

1963
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:17,519
But that is the way it is. And

1964
01:06:17,519 --> 01:06:20,315
if they the war state goes away, this

1965
01:06:20,315 --> 01:06:22,635
country is propped up by that ongoing merchant

1966
01:06:22,635 --> 01:06:24,155
of death. I mean, everything we've talked about

1967
01:06:24,155 --> 01:06:24,974
around the world.

1968
01:06:27,434 --> 01:06:29,914
Ultimately, it says current knowledge is insufficient to

1969
01:06:29,914 --> 01:06:31,934
achieve an optimal set of values

1970
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,500
for the treatment of soils contaminated with dioxins

1971
01:06:34,799 --> 01:06:37,440
on a laboratory scale, pilot scale, and field

1972
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:38,739
scale. So end point,

1973
01:06:39,199 --> 01:06:41,599
we don't have enough information. Why? Because they

1974
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,839
refuse to look into this, and studies like

1975
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:45,039
this are left going, this is a big

1976
01:06:45,039 --> 01:06:46,079
deal, and we don't know what to do

1977
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:48,019
about it, which is exactly my point.

1978
01:06:52,605 --> 01:06:54,605
Now, the Cebeso disaster only a couple points

1979
01:06:54,605 --> 01:06:55,885
I wanna make. Make sure you read through

1980
01:06:55,885 --> 01:06:57,105
this because it's crazy.

1981
01:06:58,284 --> 01:07:00,284
And this is this study was done in

1982
01:07:00,284 --> 01:07:00,784
2018.

1983
01:07:01,989 --> 01:07:03,590
K? So the and the 4 look at

1984
01:07:03,590 --> 01:07:05,289
40 years of health research.

1985
01:07:05,590 --> 01:07:07,190
So, again, they went back to what we

1986
01:07:07,190 --> 01:07:09,349
still Time Magazine still calls one of the

1987
01:07:09,349 --> 01:07:12,150
top 10 environmental disasters in history, and it

1988
01:07:12,150 --> 01:07:13,130
was specifically

1989
01:07:13,590 --> 01:07:14,250
a dioxin

1990
01:07:15,105 --> 01:07:16,625
disaster. That's what it's called even on Time

1991
01:07:16,625 --> 01:07:19,105
Magazine. Dioxin is a known carcinogen. The point

1992
01:07:19,105 --> 01:07:21,284
is just like before, there was a chemical

1993
01:07:21,344 --> 01:07:21,844
reaction

1994
01:07:22,304 --> 01:07:25,204
that caused this chemical to release massive dioxins.

1995
01:07:25,425 --> 01:07:25,925
And

1996
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:28,440
people got chloracne. There was all sorts of

1997
01:07:28,440 --> 01:07:29,800
terrible the point is they looked at it

1998
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,099
40 years away

1999
01:07:31,719 --> 01:07:33,559
and said the people who had chloracne are

2000
01:07:33,559 --> 01:07:35,239
the ones that had acute exposure. They mapped

2001
01:07:35,239 --> 01:07:36,360
out what they looked at, what they dealt

2002
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:37,719
with, and compared it to those that didn't

2003
01:07:37,719 --> 01:07:40,460
have chloracne. And the results were shocking.

2004
01:07:41,264 --> 01:07:42,385
And the point is you can look through

2005
01:07:42,385 --> 01:07:43,505
what we talked about in the last show

2006
01:07:43,505 --> 01:07:46,545
about immune suppression, all basically everything we just

2007
01:07:46,545 --> 01:07:47,605
read off in that study.

2008
01:07:48,065 --> 01:07:49,525
Now in this location,

2009
01:07:49,984 --> 01:07:52,724
it was an estimated 15 to 30 kilograms

2010
01:07:53,340 --> 01:07:54,079
of TCDD

2011
01:07:55,019 --> 01:07:58,380
over an 18 kilometer squared area. Now look

2012
01:07:58,380 --> 01:08:00,059
at what we just talked about. And especially

2013
01:08:00,059 --> 01:08:01,739
with Scott telling us that we're talking about

2014
01:08:01,739 --> 01:08:03,039
a minimum 12,500,000

2015
01:08:04,940 --> 01:08:06,640
chlorinated compounds in Georgia.

2016
01:08:07,579 --> 01:08:08,894
Now I know we're kind of going back

2017
01:08:08,894 --> 01:08:10,655
at the the Bakersfield point, which is to

2018
01:08:10,655 --> 01:08:13,454
highlight another example of more of these fires

2019
01:08:13,454 --> 01:08:14,974
that I can prove to you are at

2020
01:08:14,974 --> 01:08:17,854
some level releasing dioxins. The Georgia example, I'm

2021
01:08:17,854 --> 01:08:19,954
worried about because of how large it seems.

2022
01:08:20,630 --> 01:08:21,989
So if we know all the numbers we

2023
01:08:21,989 --> 01:08:23,670
just went through and this in the in

2024
01:08:23,670 --> 01:08:25,349
what is still regarded as one of the

2025
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:28,010
top 10 environmental disasters, they had an estimated

2026
01:08:28,149 --> 01:08:30,729
15 to 30 kilograms, that's it, of dioxin

2027
01:08:30,789 --> 01:08:34,010
TCDD over an 18 kilometer squared area.

2028
01:08:35,295 --> 01:08:37,555
And today, we can't acknowledge that these objectively

2029
01:08:37,614 --> 01:08:40,515
larger disasters are you see the point? That's

2030
01:08:40,655 --> 01:08:41,475
why either

2031
01:08:41,775 --> 01:08:44,515
we have completely lost ourselves over the many

2032
01:08:44,735 --> 01:08:46,895
lesser of evil cycles or we are being

2033
01:08:46,895 --> 01:08:48,835
lied to deliberately, possibly both.

2034
01:08:52,170 --> 01:08:53,069
The other point,

2035
01:08:53,529 --> 01:08:54,750
it says the TCDD

2036
01:08:55,130 --> 01:08:57,289
level in and this is, again, going back

2037
01:08:57,289 --> 01:08:57,949
to Cebeso

2038
01:08:58,569 --> 01:08:59,550
from 1979,

2039
01:09:00,010 --> 01:09:01,389
I believe, remember correctly.

2040
01:09:02,685 --> 01:09:04,465
Yeah. 19 oh, excuse me. 1976.

2041
01:09:06,204 --> 01:09:07,265
Now as it says,

2042
01:09:07,965 --> 01:09:09,744
the TCD level the TCDD

2043
01:09:10,204 --> 01:09:12,604
level, that's the worst does that the most

2044
01:09:12,604 --> 01:09:13,984
dangerous thing in the world, dioxin,

2045
01:09:15,130 --> 01:09:16,109
in blood

2046
01:09:16,569 --> 01:09:17,630
averaged 20.2

2047
01:09:18,170 --> 01:09:19,229
parts per trillion,

2048
01:09:20,090 --> 01:09:22,510
and the levels of other dioxin like compounds

2049
01:09:22,970 --> 01:09:26,010
averaged 80.2 parts per trillion, resulting in an

2050
01:09:26,010 --> 01:09:27,789
average total dioxin equivalency

2051
01:09:28,435 --> 01:09:29,255
of a 100.4

2052
01:09:29,954 --> 01:09:30,854
parts per trillion.

2053
01:09:32,354 --> 01:09:33,954
So we're talking about and this, I think,

2054
01:09:33,954 --> 01:09:34,454
was

2055
01:09:37,475 --> 01:09:38,935
make sure I'm not getting the

2056
01:09:39,954 --> 01:09:41,460
timing. I thought that was in there. So

2057
01:09:41,460 --> 01:09:43,140
I I'll make sure I was gonna say

2058
01:09:43,140 --> 01:09:45,400
this was 20 years after, unless I'm misremembering

2059
01:09:45,619 --> 01:09:48,100
from the other post. So it says the

2060
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:51,239
samples collected under 6 76 from female residents.

2061
01:09:51,860 --> 01:09:53,460
The levels okay. So it's at the time.

2062
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:54,739
I think there's one coming up, I think

2063
01:09:54,739 --> 01:09:56,175
it's in the future. So just thinking about

2064
01:09:56,175 --> 01:09:57,234
the comparative point.

2065
01:09:57,695 --> 01:09:59,954
20.2. So again, coming back to this,

2066
01:10:00,975 --> 01:10:04,195
only 15 to 30 kilograms over an 18

2067
01:10:04,494 --> 01:10:06,734
kilometer squared area. That's all with how many

2068
01:10:06,734 --> 01:10:08,255
we already show or released in these past

2069
01:10:08,255 --> 01:10:08,755
examples?

2070
01:10:10,430 --> 01:10:12,189
And they're saying that back then, right after

2071
01:10:12,189 --> 01:10:14,369
that, with a lesser amount, they had 20.2

2072
01:10:14,670 --> 01:10:16,770
parts per trillion of of

2073
01:10:17,869 --> 01:10:19,649
of other dioxin like compounds,

2074
01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:21,810
an average of 80.2.

2075
01:10:24,484 --> 01:10:27,125
And the total equivalency was a 100.4 parts

2076
01:10:27,125 --> 01:10:28,645
per trillion. I mean, guys, I think this

2077
01:10:28,645 --> 01:10:30,024
is pretty objectively obvious.

2078
01:10:30,965 --> 01:10:33,604
Down here, it says also, TCDD levels were

2079
01:10:33,604 --> 01:10:36,420
measured in serum and blood collected almost 20

2080
01:10:36,420 --> 01:10:38,180
years. Oh, that okay. That's what it was.

2081
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:41,859
20 years after the accident. For 62 different

2082
01:10:41,859 --> 01:10:42,359
people,

2083
01:10:43,140 --> 01:10:43,880
the geometric's

2084
01:10:44,819 --> 01:10:47,719
average blood TCD levels were significantly

2085
01:10:48,100 --> 01:10:49,460
higher in women. Oh, and this is the

2086
01:10:49,460 --> 01:10:50,659
point I was gonna make right here. Look

2087
01:10:50,659 --> 01:10:51,104
at this.

2088
01:10:51,585 --> 01:10:52,965
20 years later,

2089
01:10:53,664 --> 01:10:55,904
and they have 17.6 part per trillion for

2090
01:10:55,904 --> 01:10:58,145
women and 6.7 part per trillion than men

2091
01:10:58,145 --> 01:11:00,784
in their blood. So you realize right there,

2092
01:11:00,784 --> 01:11:01,604
that's higher,

2093
01:11:02,225 --> 01:11:04,625
shockingly higher, than what people are supposed to

2094
01:11:04,625 --> 01:11:06,385
have safe level from the WHO in a

2095
01:11:06,385 --> 01:11:08,859
general sense. And this is 20 years later.

2096
01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:12,760
And this is, I think, objectively smaller than

2097
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,000
what we're dealing with over here. But remember,

2098
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:16,460
these people didn't drop dead.

2099
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:18,359
They were the ones that went on to

2100
01:11:18,359 --> 01:11:21,899
have reproductive issues, deformities, immune suppression, cancers,

2101
01:11:22,295 --> 01:11:23,994
because that's what we're really talking about.

2102
01:11:25,494 --> 01:11:27,494
So here, it's just an an article from

2103
01:11:27,494 --> 01:11:28,234
May 2020,

2104
01:11:28,614 --> 01:11:30,614
5 facts about dioxins, one of the most

2105
01:11:30,614 --> 01:11:32,694
toxic compounds on earth. And the reason they

2106
01:11:32,694 --> 01:11:34,054
frame it like that is because there's a

2107
01:11:34,054 --> 01:11:36,840
scale, TCDD being the most at the top.

2108
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,359
But that's the point. That one is the

2109
01:11:38,359 --> 01:11:39,719
most. The rest of them are some of

2110
01:11:39,719 --> 01:11:41,319
the most in the world. And you can

2111
01:11:41,319 --> 01:11:42,520
read through this. This one included for you

2112
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,719
to check out the fact that this is

2113
01:11:43,719 --> 01:11:46,199
just a public and known discussion that yet

2114
01:11:46,199 --> 01:11:48,599
people are don't care about, or some in

2115
01:11:48,599 --> 01:11:51,054
the government don't care most anyway. And this

2116
01:11:51,054 --> 01:11:52,514
goes back to to 1994.

2117
01:11:53,694 --> 01:11:54,914
The truth about dioxin.

2118
01:11:55,215 --> 01:11:56,675
National Wildlife Federation.

2119
01:11:57,454 --> 01:11:59,135
Now this is this is an important post

2120
01:11:59,135 --> 01:12:00,675
because what he's highlighting here

2121
01:12:01,854 --> 01:12:04,194
or she, Vicky Monks, is highlighting here

2122
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,039
is the back and forth about this. So

2123
01:12:07,039 --> 01:12:08,720
let's be clear. Right now, it's not up

2124
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:09,380
for debate.

2125
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,760
The the even from the government, the reality

2126
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,619
is dioxins are the are shockingly dangerous, specifically

2127
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:17,359
that one we keep mentioning, t c d

2128
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:17,859
d.

2129
01:12:18,345 --> 01:12:19,645
So keeping that in mind,

2130
01:12:20,024 --> 01:12:22,585
at this point, 1994, a year before that

2131
01:12:22,585 --> 01:12:24,585
CNN article, they're going they're talking about how

2132
01:12:24,585 --> 01:12:26,024
the New York Times will start trying to

2133
01:12:26,024 --> 01:12:27,005
muddy the waters.

2134
01:12:27,625 --> 01:12:29,305
Feels like they were serving the same purpose

2135
01:12:29,305 --> 01:12:31,145
back then. Coming out trying to go, no

2136
01:12:31,145 --> 01:12:32,845
worry. It's no worse than sunbathing.

2137
01:12:33,989 --> 01:12:35,270
And the point they make in here is

2138
01:12:35,270 --> 01:12:36,329
where'd that come from?

2139
01:12:36,949 --> 01:12:38,710
Clearly, we now know that's not true. And

2140
01:12:38,710 --> 01:12:39,989
even in the article, it turns out that

2141
01:12:39,989 --> 01:12:41,909
they later kind of admitted that. So where

2142
01:12:41,909 --> 01:12:43,670
did that come from? I think my point

2143
01:12:43,670 --> 01:12:44,949
here is that it shows you all the

2144
01:12:44,949 --> 01:12:46,654
way back then there was an effort to

2145
01:12:46,654 --> 01:12:48,255
try to ignore that. Now that, you know,

2146
01:12:48,255 --> 01:12:50,494
that could've just come from the companies that

2147
01:12:50,494 --> 01:12:52,994
were making chlorinated products. That's certainly possible.

2148
01:12:53,534 --> 01:12:54,274
But consider

2149
01:12:55,854 --> 01:12:57,454
that it whatever however you look at it,

2150
01:12:57,454 --> 01:12:59,295
that we're talking about an effort through The

2151
01:12:59,295 --> 01:13:01,659
New York Times and other media platforms that

2152
01:13:01,659 --> 01:13:03,899
did the same to downplay something that we

2153
01:13:03,899 --> 01:13:05,420
now know is the most dangerous thing in

2154
01:13:05,420 --> 01:13:07,099
existence. I mean, that is a shocking thing

2155
01:13:07,099 --> 01:13:08,719
to think about. 1994,

2156
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:12,880
the subtitle, despite a slew of reassuring newspaper

2157
01:13:12,939 --> 01:13:14,319
art stories about dioxin,

2158
01:13:14,854 --> 01:13:17,494
scientific studies are finding that the chemical is

2159
01:13:17,494 --> 01:13:19,034
even worse than once thought.

2160
01:13:20,135 --> 01:13:21,914
So it says it says imagine a family

2161
01:13:21,975 --> 01:13:23,914
of toxic chemicals so widespread

2162
01:13:25,975 --> 01:13:27,675
that no one can escape exposure.

2163
01:13:28,090 --> 01:13:31,050
Industrial compounds that at low doses can disable

2164
01:13:31,050 --> 01:13:34,409
the immune system, promote cancer and other diseases,

2165
01:13:34,409 --> 01:13:37,070
and even cross the placental barrier to disrupt

2166
01:13:37,289 --> 01:13:37,789
embryonic

2167
01:13:38,170 --> 01:13:38,670
development.

2168
01:13:40,185 --> 01:13:43,085
Now consider that these chemicals are real

2169
01:13:43,465 --> 01:13:45,704
and that the US environmental the EPA is

2170
01:13:45,704 --> 01:13:48,364
releasing this summer a draft of a reassessment

2171
01:13:49,224 --> 01:13:52,685
of their measurable effects with results so worrisome

2172
01:13:52,970 --> 01:13:55,610
that the agency is expected to recommend tight

2173
01:13:55,610 --> 01:13:57,770
future controls on the chemicals. Remember, a year

2174
01:13:57,770 --> 01:13:58,270
later,

2175
01:13:58,890 --> 01:14:01,229
we'll show you this discussion with CNN where

2176
01:14:01,610 --> 01:14:02,970
they kicked the can down the road. Well,

2177
01:14:02,970 --> 01:14:04,890
they were going super dangerous, but chlorine companies

2178
01:14:04,890 --> 01:14:06,090
were pushing back, so we have to do

2179
01:14:06,090 --> 01:14:06,829
some more studies.

2180
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:08,430
And we know what happened.

2181
01:14:08,885 --> 01:14:11,125
So what's important to highlight here is that

2182
01:14:11,125 --> 01:14:13,765
even this point, it was already feigning action.

2183
01:14:13,765 --> 01:14:15,204
EPA was already going, don't, but we have

2184
01:14:15,204 --> 01:14:16,885
a better report. It shows it's dangerous, but

2185
01:14:16,885 --> 01:14:17,945
we have to you know?

2186
01:14:18,965 --> 01:14:21,225
Showing how long they've known about this

2187
01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,439
and continue to either cover it up or

2188
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,159
been told to continue doing it. However you

2189
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:28,859
wanna look at it or allowing it rather.

2190
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,300
Given given all that it says, the EPA's

2191
01:14:32,359 --> 01:14:34,699
expected tough stance would seem to be reassuring

2192
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:35,260
news.

2193
01:14:35,595 --> 01:14:37,914
Yet convincing the public of a need for

2194
01:14:37,914 --> 01:14:40,314
costly controls may not be easy. That's because

2195
01:14:40,314 --> 01:14:41,694
during the past 3 years,

2196
01:14:42,074 --> 01:14:45,435
newspapers and magazines around the country published numerous

2197
01:14:45,435 --> 01:14:45,935
stories

2198
01:14:46,475 --> 01:14:50,335
overlooking the science involved and discounting the danger

2199
01:14:50,770 --> 01:14:53,649
of exposure to the most toxic substance in

2200
01:14:53,649 --> 01:14:55,750
the group, specifically TCDD,

2201
01:14:56,449 --> 01:14:57,750
commonly known as dioxin.

2202
01:14:58,449 --> 01:14:59,889
So the point they're making is that even

2203
01:14:59,889 --> 01:15:01,489
those who are coming out, there was corporate

2204
01:15:01,489 --> 01:15:01,989
media

2205
01:15:02,289 --> 01:15:04,210
that was sticking its finger into this and

2206
01:15:04,210 --> 01:15:05,670
trying to downplay the risks.

2207
01:15:06,225 --> 01:15:07,585
As, you know, Sarban, if you wanna look,

2208
01:15:07,585 --> 01:15:09,104
I think that's the role that these platforms

2209
01:15:09,104 --> 01:15:09,764
have played.

2210
01:15:10,064 --> 01:15:11,585
Now it says, where have those stories come

2211
01:15:11,585 --> 01:15:13,045
from? And who's right?

2212
01:15:13,824 --> 01:15:15,984
The answers serve as a wake up call

2213
01:15:15,984 --> 01:15:17,284
to journalists and editors.

2214
01:15:17,744 --> 01:15:19,264
You could change the way you read the

2215
01:15:19,264 --> 01:15:19,764
newspaper.

2216
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:22,460
And could change the way you read the

2217
01:15:22,460 --> 01:15:24,320
newspaper, which I think we're all there today.

2218
01:15:24,539 --> 01:15:27,420
Nearly everyone living in industrialized society has been

2219
01:15:27,420 --> 01:15:28,560
exposed to dioxin.

2220
01:15:29,180 --> 01:15:31,020
It's important to think about. It's the truth.

2221
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:32,699
And we don't wanna acknowledge that today, it

2222
01:15:32,699 --> 01:15:33,199
seems.

2223
01:15:33,585 --> 01:15:36,385
Until the summer of 1991, news stories generally

2224
01:15:36,385 --> 01:15:38,625
referred to dioxin as the most dangerous of

2225
01:15:38,625 --> 01:15:39,604
man made chemicals.

2226
01:15:39,985 --> 01:15:42,065
That's the case. It and this again so

2227
01:15:42,065 --> 01:15:43,824
that's clear to point out that before this

2228
01:15:43,824 --> 01:15:46,065
weird pushback, it was already pretty acknowledged how

2229
01:15:46,065 --> 01:15:48,239
dangerous this was. Now it says its discovery,

2230
01:15:48,300 --> 01:15:49,899
and this is an old story we've mentioned

2231
01:15:49,899 --> 01:15:51,359
in the past that you can look up,

2232
01:15:51,500 --> 01:15:55,260
on it discovered dioxins, specifically TCDD, on local

2233
01:15:55,260 --> 01:15:56,720
roads in Missouri.

2234
01:15:57,659 --> 01:15:59,979
They completely closed down the town of Times

2235
01:15:59,979 --> 01:16:01,244
Beach because of this.

2236
01:16:01,725 --> 01:16:03,805
So think about the difference today. And this

2237
01:16:03,805 --> 01:16:06,845
is a a far smaller example of this

2238
01:16:06,845 --> 01:16:09,324
problem compared to even East Palestine or the

2239
01:16:09,324 --> 01:16:09,824
others.

2240
01:16:10,204 --> 01:16:12,284
Now it says its detection in rivers and

2241
01:16:12,284 --> 01:16:14,385
fish had been cause for alarm.

2242
01:16:14,899 --> 01:16:15,560
When 1988

2243
01:16:16,260 --> 01:16:18,119
tests found dioxin in Florida's,

2244
01:16:18,979 --> 01:16:20,680
Fen Holloway, for example,

2245
01:16:21,220 --> 01:16:23,939
activists posted a warning sign, and it says

2246
01:16:23,939 --> 01:16:26,520
dioxin is no longer detectable in the water.

2247
01:16:27,645 --> 01:16:30,444
In the laboratory, dioxin had induced cancer in

2248
01:16:30,444 --> 01:16:30,944
animals

2249
01:16:31,404 --> 01:16:34,444
at far smaller doses than any other chemical

2250
01:16:34,844 --> 01:16:37,484
cancer causing chemical, and it had proved to

2251
01:16:37,484 --> 01:16:39,024
be more than 11,000

2252
01:16:39,564 --> 01:16:40,064
times

2253
01:16:40,444 --> 01:16:43,949
more potent than the deadly poison sodium cyanide

2254
01:16:44,010 --> 01:16:45,310
in killing guinea pigs.

2255
01:16:46,170 --> 01:16:47,850
Think about how crazy obvious this is before

2256
01:16:47,850 --> 01:16:49,369
they pushed back from the New York Times.

2257
01:16:49,369 --> 01:16:51,850
Now it says then on oct August 15th

2258
01:16:51,850 --> 01:16:54,030
90 9 August 15th 1991,

2259
01:16:55,164 --> 01:16:57,344
New York Times reporter Keith Schneider

2260
01:16:57,965 --> 01:17:00,204
wrote a front page story with the assertion

2261
01:17:00,204 --> 01:17:01,984
that exposure to dioxin, quote,

2262
01:17:02,524 --> 01:17:04,524
is now considered by some experts to be

2263
01:17:04,524 --> 01:17:07,164
no more risky than spreading spending a week

2264
01:17:07,164 --> 01:17:07,664
sunbathing.

2265
01:17:08,604 --> 01:17:10,920
Think about that. Now again, remember, we know

2266
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,520
that's not true today. And even that's the

2267
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:13,960
that's the ultimate point at the end of

2268
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:14,539
the article.

2269
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:16,539
So this guy came out

2270
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:17,659
and just,

2271
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:20,280
excuse me, pushed this story. Now, you could

2272
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:21,560
argue he didn't know he's wrong, but the

2273
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:22,440
point is he gets to the point where

2274
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:23,479
he can prove at the end that he

2275
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:25,020
did but didn't follow-up on it.

2276
01:17:25,454 --> 01:17:26,914
So where did it come from?

2277
01:17:27,375 --> 01:17:28,895
Is it as simple to point out that

2278
01:17:28,895 --> 01:17:32,014
chlorine companies push them or influence somebody to

2279
01:17:32,014 --> 01:17:33,154
get certainly possible?

2280
01:17:33,534 --> 01:17:34,734
But I want you to ask if it

2281
01:17:34,734 --> 01:17:36,974
could be bigger than that, which is usually

2282
01:17:36,974 --> 01:17:38,654
an indication when something like the New York

2283
01:17:38,654 --> 01:17:41,020
Times comes out and pushes a completely false

2284
01:17:41,020 --> 01:17:41,520
story.

2285
01:17:42,939 --> 01:17:44,860
It says other papers ran their own similar

2286
01:17:44,860 --> 01:17:48,300
reports and editorials that lambasted scientists for encouraging

2287
01:17:48,300 --> 01:17:50,380
the government to waste money on dealing with

2288
01:17:50,380 --> 01:17:50,880
dioxins.

2289
01:17:52,344 --> 01:17:53,704
Now this is the point of how the

2290
01:17:53,704 --> 01:17:56,104
propaganda multiplier works. We've talked about that before.

2291
01:17:56,104 --> 01:17:56,904
Let me see if I can get that

2292
01:17:56,904 --> 01:17:57,645
to pop up.

2293
01:18:03,465 --> 01:18:05,164
Yep. Doesn't look like it.

2294
01:18:07,189 --> 01:18:08,710
I'll look at it later. I I have

2295
01:18:08,710 --> 01:18:10,869
a story, a a I think a clip

2296
01:18:10,869 --> 01:18:12,389
we did where I discussed what's called the

2297
01:18:12,389 --> 01:18:14,630
propaganda multiplier. And it simply talks about the

2298
01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:16,630
groups like Reuters and AP and how they

2299
01:18:16,630 --> 01:18:18,550
just dump out like newswire stuff and then

2300
01:18:18,550 --> 01:18:20,324
the corporate media just gobbles it up, puts

2301
01:18:20,324 --> 01:18:21,605
it back out. Most of the time, they

2302
01:18:21,605 --> 01:18:22,965
don't even look at it. They don't not

2303
01:18:22,965 --> 01:18:24,244
half the time, they even don't even point

2304
01:18:24,244 --> 01:18:25,385
out that it came from them.

2305
01:18:25,765 --> 01:18:27,445
And it just it just trickles down and

2306
01:18:27,445 --> 01:18:28,725
then from them or, like, the New York

2307
01:18:28,725 --> 01:18:30,405
Times run something from them and then the

2308
01:18:30,405 --> 01:18:32,164
smaller platforms do it and we see how

2309
01:18:32,164 --> 01:18:33,520
that works today. And that's the point they

2310
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:35,520
make in this, that ultimately, all these smaller

2311
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,000
papers, at least 20 major newspapers around the

2312
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,100
country, just reprinted the New York Times story,

2313
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:43,199
which which shows you everything right there. It's

2314
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:44,960
a false story. We can prove that. They

2315
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,060
just repeated it because they knew they could.

2316
01:18:47,655 --> 01:18:50,375
Despite the flurry of attention, Schneider's conclusions about

2317
01:18:50,375 --> 01:18:53,015
dioxin risk then and in order store in

2318
01:18:53,015 --> 01:18:55,114
in other stories for nearly 3 years

2319
01:18:55,574 --> 01:18:56,795
had a major flaw.

2320
01:18:57,175 --> 01:18:58,074
They were wrong.

2321
01:18:58,774 --> 01:19:00,729
Many experts in and outside of the federal

2322
01:19:00,729 --> 01:19:02,649
government have said all along that there has

2323
01:19:02,649 --> 01:19:06,010
been no scientific basis for suggesting that dioxin

2324
01:19:06,010 --> 01:19:08,250
is less dangerous than previously thought. It says,

2325
01:19:08,250 --> 01:19:10,170
quote, I don't think we have any indication

2326
01:19:10,170 --> 01:19:11,929
right now that the risk would be lower

2327
01:19:11,929 --> 01:19:12,829
than we believed,

2328
01:19:13,635 --> 01:19:15,635
said William Farland from one of the EPA

2329
01:19:15,635 --> 01:19:17,895
officials in charge of the reassessment of dioxin

2330
01:19:17,954 --> 01:19:18,694
in 1992.

2331
01:19:19,074 --> 01:19:21,795
But Schneider continued to downplay dioxin's dangers and

2332
01:19:21,795 --> 01:19:24,614
overlooked research until a May 11, 1994

2333
01:19:25,875 --> 01:19:27,814
story about an EPA reassessment.

2334
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:29,430
Now again, this is a good point to

2335
01:19:29,430 --> 01:19:31,750
make about why not every individual within these

2336
01:19:31,750 --> 01:19:33,350
entities are always I mean, who knows for

2337
01:19:33,350 --> 01:19:35,029
sure? Maybe that's he was playing a role

2338
01:19:35,029 --> 01:19:37,270
to keep it obfuscated. But usually, you find

2339
01:19:37,270 --> 01:19:39,430
the examples of EPA or CDC people that

2340
01:19:39,430 --> 01:19:41,430
are more lower down that don't realize they're

2341
01:19:41,430 --> 01:19:42,649
part of a corrupt organization.

2342
01:19:43,175 --> 01:19:44,614
And that's who I'm speaking to when I

2343
01:19:44,614 --> 01:19:46,695
talk about this. Say something. If you see

2344
01:19:46,695 --> 01:19:48,235
a problem, speak up.

2345
01:19:48,775 --> 01:19:50,295
Because I hope you start to realize that

2346
01:19:50,295 --> 01:19:51,815
they're not in the interest of trying to

2347
01:19:51,815 --> 01:19:54,215
find out the solution. You may be, so

2348
01:19:54,215 --> 01:19:54,954
make a difference.

2349
01:19:57,199 --> 01:19:58,340
Now it says Newsday's

2350
01:19:58,720 --> 01:20:01,119
Earl Lane reported that the panel, which reviews

2351
01:20:01,119 --> 01:20:03,600
drafts of the EPA re EPA reassessment of

2352
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,600
dachshund, which the only reason like, why would

2353
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,199
he even need the reassessment? Like, this is

2354
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:08,560
what's so funny about it, is that ultimately,

2355
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:09,920
they already had the argument that it was

2356
01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:11,664
bad. Then you get this random article from

2357
01:20:11,664 --> 01:20:13,185
New York Times which trickles through all the

2358
01:20:13,185 --> 01:20:15,664
media, which triggers a reassessment. It just doesn't

2359
01:20:15,744 --> 01:20:17,444
it's the same thing as the fluoride dynamic.

2360
01:20:17,664 --> 01:20:18,564
We don't need

2361
01:20:19,185 --> 01:20:21,744
why we get driven by propaganda that what

2362
01:20:21,824 --> 01:20:23,069
I guess here's the best way to put

2363
01:20:23,069 --> 01:20:24,929
it. It shows you what drives the conversation.

2364
01:20:25,149 --> 01:20:27,229
Not the fact based research that they've claimed

2365
01:20:27,229 --> 01:20:29,789
they've done, but the propaganda that they respond

2366
01:20:29,789 --> 01:20:32,050
to, which is exactly the point.

2367
01:20:33,069 --> 01:20:33,969
But it says,

2368
01:20:36,395 --> 01:20:38,875
the report, which reviewed drafts of the EPA

2369
01:20:38,875 --> 01:20:41,034
reassessment of dioxin, had found, quote, that the

2370
01:20:41,034 --> 01:20:44,335
chemical's effects may be broader and more troubling

2371
01:20:44,395 --> 01:20:46,734
than previously thought, which is the truth.

2372
01:20:47,034 --> 01:20:50,130
Schneider's September 26th story also was also picked

2373
01:20:50,130 --> 01:20:52,449
up by other newspapers, including the Kansas City

2374
01:20:52,449 --> 01:20:54,369
Star, which put it on the front page

2375
01:20:54,369 --> 01:20:57,090
under the headline, quote, scientists say dioxin is

2376
01:20:57,090 --> 01:20:59,189
no big threat. Think about that.

2377
01:20:59,650 --> 01:21:01,970
4 days later, a correction acknowledged that the

2378
01:21:01,970 --> 01:21:03,670
headline might have been understated.

2379
01:21:04,204 --> 01:21:06,364
It might have understated the potential effects of

2380
01:21:06,364 --> 01:21:06,944
the vaccine.

2381
01:21:07,324 --> 01:21:08,685
So think about how crazy that is that

2382
01:21:08,685 --> 01:21:10,604
you could put that headline out and then

2383
01:21:10,604 --> 01:21:12,704
quietly put out a retraction or a correction,

2384
01:21:13,404 --> 01:21:16,125
and most people don't see that. All because

2385
01:21:16,125 --> 01:21:17,725
the Kansas City Star did not have the

2386
01:21:17,725 --> 01:21:20,199
wherewithal to recognize that they couldn't just blindly

2387
01:21:20,199 --> 01:21:22,199
follow what the New York Times said or

2388
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:22,939
didn't care.

2389
01:21:23,479 --> 01:21:24,300
In 1982,

2390
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:26,840
the CDC found some of the highest levels

2391
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,920
of dioxin in the region in Times Beach

2392
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:31,560
in Missouri. The federal government bought out the

2393
01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:32,939
town's property owners,

2394
01:21:33,364 --> 01:21:35,045
which by the way is another point to

2395
01:21:35,045 --> 01:21:37,204
make. Maybe that was used then for a

2396
01:21:37,204 --> 01:21:38,824
land grab. Certainly possible.

2397
01:21:39,445 --> 01:21:41,765
More than 2,000 people moved and the town

2398
01:21:41,765 --> 01:21:44,405
closed down in early 1983 at a cost

2399
01:21:44,405 --> 01:21:45,784
of approximately $30,000,000.

2400
01:21:46,970 --> 01:21:48,729
So think about that kind of an action

2401
01:21:48,729 --> 01:21:50,970
for something that was objectively smaller than East

2402
01:21:50,970 --> 01:21:52,489
Palestine, and yet you don't even hear the

2403
01:21:52,489 --> 01:21:54,570
word dioxin mentioned till they're forced to acknowledge

2404
01:21:54,570 --> 01:21:55,070
it.

2405
01:21:55,610 --> 01:21:56,810
Does that sound like a cover up to

2406
01:21:56,810 --> 01:21:58,909
you? It does to me. The point

2407
01:21:59,435 --> 01:22:00,954
is that we have to consider, like, I

2408
01:22:00,954 --> 01:22:02,315
I I'm curious if you're out there and

2409
01:22:02,315 --> 01:22:03,994
you have any more insight on this. Right?

2410
01:22:03,994 --> 01:22:05,275
What is there any more that we should

2411
01:22:05,275 --> 01:22:06,635
know about Times Beach? Is there something the

2412
01:22:06,635 --> 01:22:08,475
government did there after the fact? Let us

2413
01:22:08,475 --> 01:22:08,975
know.

2414
01:22:09,914 --> 01:22:12,315
Vernon Ho Hooke, or h o u k,

2415
01:22:12,315 --> 01:22:13,695
is the name. I'll say Hooke.

2416
01:22:14,229 --> 01:22:16,810
Then an assistant surgeon general at the CDC

2417
01:22:17,270 --> 01:22:19,429
was one of the federal officials who recommended

2418
01:22:19,429 --> 01:22:21,369
the buyout. In May 1991,

2419
01:22:22,069 --> 01:22:25,929
however, Houk had told a Columbia, Missouri conference

2420
01:22:26,469 --> 01:22:28,869
on environmental health that he believed Times Beach

2421
01:22:28,869 --> 01:22:29,369
residents

2422
01:22:30,114 --> 01:22:31,494
never should have moved.

2423
01:22:32,034 --> 01:22:33,474
This is what's get this now this is

2424
01:22:33,474 --> 01:22:35,554
very interesting. Because one, you can show that

2425
01:22:35,554 --> 01:22:37,875
he was aware of this before, then something

2426
01:22:37,875 --> 01:22:40,354
happened. Some influence happened, and then he pushed

2427
01:22:40,354 --> 01:22:41,795
back. Well, they that was a mistake to

2428
01:22:41,795 --> 01:22:42,694
make them move.

2429
01:22:43,234 --> 01:22:44,854
But you'll see where this ends up.

2430
01:22:45,409 --> 01:22:47,489
So what the the common denominator here is

2431
01:22:47,489 --> 01:22:48,710
that you can see a threat,

2432
01:22:49,170 --> 01:22:51,810
and then somebody pulls a string and gets

2433
01:22:51,810 --> 01:22:53,489
people in positions of power or the New

2434
01:22:53,489 --> 01:22:55,409
York Times or somebody to push back on

2435
01:22:55,409 --> 01:22:57,810
that and lie. Now we know today that

2436
01:22:57,810 --> 01:22:59,595
they were wrong. But so where that that's

2437
01:22:59,595 --> 01:23:01,534
the point he makes earlier. Who did that?

2438
01:23:01,835 --> 01:23:03,055
Who's pulling strings?

2439
01:23:03,435 --> 01:23:05,034
Is it just your government? Is it corporate

2440
01:23:05,114 --> 01:23:06,895
is the lobbyist group? I don't know.

2441
01:23:07,274 --> 01:23:09,114
Somebody had the interest of trying to hide

2442
01:23:09,114 --> 01:23:10,795
this then just like they are now, and,

2443
01:23:10,795 --> 01:23:12,779
clearly, they succeeded today. People don't even know

2444
01:23:12,779 --> 01:23:14,619
what this is, and still, despite all this

2445
01:23:14,619 --> 01:23:15,119
coverage.

2446
01:23:15,420 --> 01:23:16,719
Now it

2447
01:23:17,020 --> 01:23:18,960
says, who told the, the writer

2448
01:23:20,139 --> 01:23:22,139
told this writer, the person writing this article,

2449
01:23:22,139 --> 01:23:23,439
in early 1993

2450
01:23:24,219 --> 01:23:26,460
that new research was showing dioxin to be,

2451
01:23:26,460 --> 01:23:28,895
quote, not especially harmful to man.

2452
01:23:29,594 --> 01:23:30,895
In April 1991,

2453
01:23:31,274 --> 01:23:33,514
1 month before HOOQ's speech, the EPA announced

2454
01:23:33,514 --> 01:23:35,534
it would reevaluate dioxin's risks.

2455
01:23:36,154 --> 01:23:38,954
Months later on December 3rd, another New York

2456
01:23:38,954 --> 01:23:41,609
Times reporter covering a lawsuit wrote that, quote,

2457
01:23:41,770 --> 01:23:44,090
some experts now say the ex that exposure

2458
01:23:44,090 --> 01:23:46,010
to the chemical is no more risky than

2459
01:23:46,010 --> 01:23:46,909
a week of tanning.

2460
01:23:47,449 --> 01:23:49,449
And more than a year later, on October

2461
01:23:49,449 --> 01:23:50,510
14, 1992,

2462
01:23:51,050 --> 01:23:53,869
Financial Times reporter Peter Knight wrote that, quote,

2463
01:23:53,929 --> 01:23:56,090
last year, a US report described the danger

2464
01:23:56,090 --> 01:23:58,324
from dioxins as no more harmful than a

2465
01:23:58,324 --> 01:24:00,185
week of Sunday. So it just trickles down.

2466
01:24:01,125 --> 01:24:03,364
It says, quote, it was my metaphor, Schneider

2467
01:24:03,364 --> 01:24:05,284
said in 1992 interview with his with the

2468
01:24:05,284 --> 01:24:06,344
writer of this article.

2469
01:24:06,804 --> 01:24:08,824
He says, quote, I still think it's absurd,

2470
01:24:09,060 --> 01:24:11,619
says Richard Clapp, a professor of at Boston

2471
01:24:11,619 --> 01:24:14,020
University School of Public Health, who has studied

2472
01:24:14,020 --> 01:24:16,899
dioxin and other health risks. He says even

2473
01:24:16,899 --> 01:24:17,399
Hooke,

2474
01:24:17,859 --> 01:24:19,800
who recently retired from the CDC,

2475
01:24:20,180 --> 01:24:21,800
said the analogy is inappropriate.

2476
01:24:22,695 --> 01:24:24,135
So you get older, you retire, and you

2477
01:24:24,135 --> 01:24:26,795
kinda walk it back. Something was driving this.

2478
01:24:27,494 --> 01:24:29,895
While there is legitimate debate over the exact

2479
01:24:29,895 --> 01:24:32,555
degree of risk of the risk dioxin poses,

2480
01:24:33,015 --> 01:24:35,595
no scientist contend that dioxins are safe.

2481
01:24:36,260 --> 01:24:38,600
Cancer is still a major concern.

2482
01:24:38,979 --> 01:24:41,460
But even more troubling are new studies, this

2483
01:24:41,460 --> 01:24:42,199
is 1994,

2484
01:24:42,579 --> 01:24:46,180
showing that adverse showing other adverse effects. Researchers

2485
01:24:46,180 --> 01:24:48,500
at the EPA and the university laboratories in

2486
01:24:48,500 --> 01:24:50,614
several countries have found persuasive

2487
01:24:51,154 --> 01:24:52,454
evidence in animals

2488
01:24:53,314 --> 01:24:54,054
and humans

2489
01:24:54,434 --> 01:24:57,094
that even tiny amounts of dioxin

2490
01:24:57,554 --> 01:24:58,375
can skew

2491
01:24:58,835 --> 01:25:02,114
critical chemical balances that are necessary for normal

2492
01:25:02,114 --> 01:25:04,295
growth, especially in developing

2493
01:25:04,755 --> 01:25:05,255
embryos,

2494
01:25:06,329 --> 01:25:08,889
even tiny amounts. So think about it from

2495
01:25:08,889 --> 01:25:10,510
the again, back to Katherine's point.

2496
01:25:11,210 --> 01:25:13,210
So this is even more indiscernible. So you

2497
01:25:13,210 --> 01:25:15,130
take you take a tiny release or something

2498
01:25:15,130 --> 01:25:17,609
that nobody even notices. You have a chemical

2499
01:25:17,609 --> 01:25:20,324
plant that burns, and then somehow within 100

2500
01:25:20,324 --> 01:25:21,945
of miles around this area,

2501
01:25:22,324 --> 01:25:24,005
anybody that was pregnant, anybody

2502
01:25:24,405 --> 01:25:25,704
embryos are suddenly

2503
01:25:26,725 --> 01:25:28,104
in some way hurt.

2504
01:25:29,604 --> 01:25:32,725
They were it it skews the chemical balance

2505
01:25:32,725 --> 01:25:34,985
that are necessary for normal growth.

2506
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:38,619
So how that can very clearly amount to

2507
01:25:38,619 --> 01:25:41,579
a reduction in lifespan for that embryo, for

2508
01:25:41,579 --> 01:25:43,500
the woman holding them, for their children after

2509
01:25:43,500 --> 01:25:44,000
that.

2510
01:25:44,460 --> 01:25:46,300
So you can disregard that that's the connection.

2511
01:25:46,300 --> 01:25:48,060
My point is simply to show how obvious

2512
01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:49,420
it is that this continues to line up

2513
01:25:49,420 --> 01:25:50,239
in that direction.

2514
01:25:50,985 --> 01:25:52,744
And why why no one wants to acknowledge

2515
01:25:52,744 --> 01:25:53,324
this today?

2516
01:25:54,104 --> 01:25:55,405
Even tiny amounts

2517
01:25:56,104 --> 01:25:57,164
can have these effects.

2518
01:25:57,625 --> 01:26:00,925
EPA's chief researcher on the dioxin reassessment, toxicologist

2519
01:26:01,225 --> 01:26:01,725
Linda,

2520
01:26:02,265 --> 01:26:02,765
Birnbaum,

2521
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:06,159
explains that cells respond to dioxin as if

2522
01:26:06,159 --> 01:26:07,220
it were a hormone

2523
01:26:07,680 --> 01:26:10,320
sending wrong messages. Funny how many things like

2524
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:11,780
that line up in the same direction.

2525
01:26:12,399 --> 01:26:14,720
The confused cells keep dividing when they should

2526
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:15,220
stop,

2527
01:26:15,765 --> 01:26:18,005
Fail to grow when they should continue or

2528
01:26:18,005 --> 01:26:20,185
turn into different types of cells altogether.

2529
01:26:20,485 --> 01:26:23,225
That sounds pretty crazy. Mutagenic or mutinogenic.

2530
01:26:24,244 --> 01:26:27,064
Dioxin is a very potent growth dysregulator,

2531
01:26:28,485 --> 01:26:29,545
says this expert.

2532
01:26:30,039 --> 01:26:30,859
She's a toxicologist.

2533
01:26:31,639 --> 01:26:33,819
A Dutch study published in November 1993

2534
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:37,000
found that infants exposed to dioxin from their

2535
01:26:37,000 --> 01:26:38,300
mother's breast milk

2536
01:26:38,600 --> 01:26:40,939
produced excess thyroid hormones,

2537
01:26:41,399 --> 01:26:44,439
which could retard development of the central nervous

2538
01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:45,500
system and cause

2539
01:26:46,774 --> 01:26:47,274
psychomotor

2540
01:26:47,654 --> 01:26:48,154
problems.

2541
01:26:48,935 --> 01:26:51,255
2 years earlier, the same group of researchers

2542
01:26:51,255 --> 01:26:53,594
at the University of Amsterdam discovered a relationship

2543
01:26:53,654 --> 01:26:57,175
between intracranial bleeding in newborn babies and high

2544
01:26:57,175 --> 01:26:59,354
levels of dioxin exposure before birth.

2545
01:26:59,829 --> 01:27:01,909
The researchers think the mothers were exposed to

2546
01:27:01,909 --> 01:27:05,110
dioxin in much the same way everyone in

2547
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:07,210
industrialized countries are exposed

2548
01:27:07,670 --> 01:27:08,170
primarily

2549
01:27:08,630 --> 01:27:12,470
through contamination in food. Again, reiterating this article

2550
01:27:12,470 --> 01:27:13,289
from 1994.

2551
01:27:14,824 --> 01:27:15,725
Now recognize

2552
01:27:16,824 --> 01:27:18,104
this, which we'll come back to in a

2553
01:27:18,104 --> 01:27:18,845
minute again,

2554
01:27:20,664 --> 01:27:23,465
important study that shows you long range air

2555
01:27:23,465 --> 01:27:26,024
transport of dioxins from North American sources, that's

2556
01:27:26,024 --> 01:27:27,485
Canada and the United States,

2557
01:27:27,869 --> 01:27:31,090
into vulnerable receptors in Nunavut Arctic Canada.

2558
01:27:32,590 --> 01:27:34,350
And again and by the way, I'm I'm

2559
01:27:34,350 --> 01:27:37,469
I'm I've been saying around 200 miles. The

2560
01:27:37,469 --> 01:27:39,069
point is in this study, the people in

2561
01:27:39,069 --> 01:27:40,824
this location don't have a dioxin a source,

2562
01:27:40,824 --> 01:27:43,944
a a a prominent source within 200 miles.

2563
01:27:43,944 --> 01:27:46,684
It's actually 313 miles. It's 500 kilometers.

2564
01:27:47,704 --> 01:27:49,625
And the point is that with despite having

2565
01:27:49,625 --> 01:27:53,064
no serious dioxin sources within 313 miles, if

2566
01:27:53,064 --> 01:27:54,684
I remember the exact number correctly,

2567
01:27:55,659 --> 01:27:57,119
specifically 500 kilometers,

2568
01:27:57,420 --> 01:27:58,639
they are still getting

2569
01:27:59,019 --> 01:28:01,340
dangerous levels in their breast milk from North

2570
01:28:01,340 --> 01:28:03,260
American sources. What about the people that live

2571
01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:05,279
right next to these sources in North America?

2572
01:28:05,979 --> 01:28:07,439
Guess we don't talk about that.

2573
01:28:08,139 --> 01:28:10,880
That's that's crazy to me. And so that,

2574
01:28:12,195 --> 01:28:14,195
where were we? Right here, is what we're

2575
01:28:14,195 --> 01:28:16,114
talking about. Is that they're simply talking about

2576
01:28:16,114 --> 01:28:18,354
low levels of this. And and what these

2577
01:28:18,354 --> 01:28:19,095
these women

2578
01:28:19,715 --> 01:28:20,614
who are having

2579
01:28:20,994 --> 01:28:23,715
intracranial bleeding in newborn babies and high levels

2580
01:28:23,715 --> 01:28:26,729
of vaccine exposure before birth are dealing with

2581
01:28:26,729 --> 01:28:27,389
the same

2582
01:28:27,689 --> 01:28:28,189
amount

2583
01:28:28,969 --> 01:28:31,469
that everybody industrialized countries are exposed to.

2584
01:28:32,329 --> 01:28:33,609
Do you get do you begin to see

2585
01:28:33,609 --> 01:28:35,550
why they don't want to acknowledge this problem?

2586
01:28:36,010 --> 01:28:37,449
I mean, they're not this is talk about

2587
01:28:37,449 --> 01:28:39,789
a class action lawsuit. This is earth shattering.

2588
01:28:40,515 --> 01:28:43,715
It says in 1993, University of Heidelberg study

2589
01:28:43,715 --> 01:28:45,335
reported that people who ingested

2590
01:28:45,795 --> 01:28:48,515
high doses of dioxin in vegetables grown on

2591
01:28:48,515 --> 01:28:49,574
contaminated soil

2592
01:28:50,515 --> 01:28:52,614
suffered verbal and psychomotor

2593
01:28:52,914 --> 01:28:53,414
problems.

2594
01:28:53,800 --> 01:28:56,280
Irritability, emotional instability. Kinda sounds like an autism

2595
01:28:56,280 --> 01:28:58,039
overlap. Not to say that that's the same

2596
01:28:58,039 --> 01:29:00,119
thing. My point is that these things get

2597
01:29:00,119 --> 01:29:00,619
conflated.

2598
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,159
Children that are, you know, just in some

2599
01:29:03,159 --> 01:29:05,960
way suppressed like this, they just chalk it

2600
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:07,880
up to some kind of emotional behavior problem,

2601
01:29:07,880 --> 01:29:10,395
and this is where one huge overlap is

2602
01:29:10,395 --> 01:29:12,395
coming from that nobody even talks about. You

2603
01:29:12,395 --> 01:29:14,074
bring up dioxins to your doctor, they don't

2604
01:29:14,074 --> 01:29:15,375
even know what you're talking about.

2605
01:29:16,234 --> 01:29:18,175
The symptoms mere cognitive deficits

2606
01:29:18,795 --> 01:29:21,375
found in dioxin exposed monkeys and other animals.

2607
01:29:21,619 --> 01:29:23,619
See, it's so obvious the there's science that

2608
01:29:23,619 --> 01:29:25,780
backs up the connection point to these being

2609
01:29:25,780 --> 01:29:27,319
done and these exact byproducts

2610
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:30,100
to the levels that we experience right now,

2611
01:29:30,100 --> 01:29:31,399
not even the big disasters.

2612
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,659
Other studies also find evidence that humans and

2613
01:29:34,659 --> 01:29:35,560
study animals

2614
01:29:35,954 --> 01:29:38,935
react to dioxins in similar ways. The EPA's

2615
01:29:39,154 --> 01:29:41,875
burn bomb points to an ongoing National Institute

2616
01:29:41,875 --> 01:29:44,675
of Occupational Safety and Health study of workers

2617
01:29:44,675 --> 01:29:46,534
exposed to high levels of dioxin.

2618
01:29:47,074 --> 01:29:49,314
Men in that study and rats in other

2619
01:29:49,314 --> 01:29:52,840
research show comparable decreases in levels of circulate

2620
01:29:53,159 --> 01:29:54,219
circulating testosterone

2621
01:29:54,679 --> 01:29:56,460
in response to dioxin, specifically.

2622
01:29:57,800 --> 01:30:00,300
Increases in cancer found that the NIOSH,

2623
01:30:01,079 --> 01:30:03,559
again, that's the National Institute of Occupational Safety

2624
01:30:03,559 --> 01:30:04,139
and Health,

2625
01:30:04,485 --> 01:30:07,045
the study therein are also very close to

2626
01:30:07,045 --> 01:30:08,024
the rate of cancer

2627
01:30:08,564 --> 01:30:11,784
among animals exposed to comparable levels of toxins.

2628
01:30:11,845 --> 01:30:12,664
What a coincidence.

2629
01:30:13,604 --> 01:30:15,524
So we have the same comparable amounts. I

2630
01:30:15,524 --> 01:30:17,385
wonder if it's because, I don't know, we're

2631
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:19,420
confronted with the same problem.

2632
01:30:20,119 --> 01:30:23,479
Nah, that's crazy talk, Ryan. The obvious, provable

2633
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:24,840
thing that we know is there is totally

2634
01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,439
not causing the thing other studies show it

2635
01:30:26,439 --> 01:30:28,760
can cause because that'd be crazy conspiracy theory.

2636
01:30:28,760 --> 01:30:29,260
Right?

2637
01:30:30,439 --> 01:30:31,579
It says in Taiwan,

2638
01:30:33,284 --> 01:30:35,284
make sure I missed that last part. Yeah.

2639
01:30:35,284 --> 01:30:36,024
In Taiwan,

2640
01:30:37,125 --> 01:30:39,064
women who ate rice oil

2641
01:30:39,604 --> 01:30:41,064
contaminated with PCBs

2642
01:30:41,444 --> 01:30:43,765
or PCDS, which is lower levels of the

2643
01:30:43,765 --> 01:30:45,385
same problem, in 1979

2644
01:30:46,550 --> 01:30:49,050
gave birth to children who suffered developmental

2645
01:30:49,350 --> 01:30:51,289
delays and growth retardation.

2646
01:30:51,829 --> 01:30:55,189
Their IQs averaged 5 points below normal. Researchers

2647
01:30:55,189 --> 01:30:56,949
are finding that many of the boys who

2648
01:30:56,949 --> 01:30:58,649
are just reaching sexual maturity

2649
01:30:59,445 --> 01:31:01,064
have abnormally small penises.

2650
01:31:02,164 --> 01:31:04,024
This is exactly what we're talking about.

2651
01:31:04,324 --> 01:31:06,645
Suppression of all sorts of things. And these

2652
01:31:06,645 --> 01:31:08,024
are lower levels, guys.

2653
01:31:08,324 --> 01:31:10,085
It says and again, we're talking about rice

2654
01:31:10,085 --> 01:31:11,545
contaminated. You have to realize,

2655
01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:13,960
16 states across, you just got high levels

2656
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:16,220
of dioxins that are in the soil now.

2657
01:31:16,280 --> 01:31:19,079
Now that may not re translate ultimately to

2658
01:31:19,079 --> 01:31:20,760
very high levels in this food, but you

2659
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,939
are having some Passover and it accumulates.

2660
01:31:23,895 --> 01:31:25,734
So when you just have a generally I

2661
01:31:25,734 --> 01:31:26,934
mean, any number of these things to a

2662
01:31:26,934 --> 01:31:27,755
lesser degree.

2663
01:31:28,375 --> 01:31:30,614
The weird the the hormonal issues that cause

2664
01:31:30,614 --> 01:31:32,854
all things we just discussed, or the mental

2665
01:31:32,854 --> 01:31:34,534
issues, not being able to speak properly, not

2666
01:31:34,534 --> 01:31:36,614
being able to all of these things. Nobody

2667
01:31:36,614 --> 01:31:38,395
would associate that with these problems.

2668
01:31:39,460 --> 01:31:41,000
EPA's Dioxin Reassessment

2669
01:31:41,939 --> 01:31:42,439
Panel

2670
01:31:43,140 --> 01:31:45,939
has concluded that the combined effects of all

2671
01:31:45,939 --> 01:31:47,079
dioxin like chemicals

2672
01:31:47,539 --> 01:31:50,020
must be considered in evaluating dioxin's risk. So

2673
01:31:50,020 --> 01:31:51,619
even that makes it even crazier, because we're

2674
01:31:51,619 --> 01:31:53,604
talking about the lower level aspects, but also

2675
01:31:53,604 --> 01:31:55,604
what they call dioxin like chemicals, which are

2676
01:31:55,604 --> 01:31:57,284
kind of a in the same ballpark, and

2677
01:31:57,284 --> 01:31:58,965
that's the point they make. Is those are

2678
01:31:59,364 --> 01:32:01,445
when you do the assessment, those have to

2679
01:32:01,445 --> 01:32:02,104
be included

2680
01:32:03,204 --> 01:32:04,664
to find the full risk.

2681
01:32:05,364 --> 01:32:07,125
So not only are they not talking about

2682
01:32:07,125 --> 01:32:08,345
dioxins in general,

2683
01:32:08,689 --> 01:32:10,609
but obviously then that means they're not including

2684
01:32:10,609 --> 01:32:12,369
the other ones that are also supposed to

2685
01:32:12,369 --> 01:32:15,010
be included when actually sussing out the risk.

2686
01:32:15,010 --> 01:32:16,689
So do we think the EPA that refused

2687
01:32:16,689 --> 01:32:18,630
to have acknowledged the actions in East Palestine

2688
01:32:18,770 --> 01:32:21,409
once finally pointed to them, then actually brought

2689
01:32:21,409 --> 01:32:23,109
that out to of course not.

2690
01:32:24,494 --> 01:32:26,114
Despite it coming from the EPA.

2691
01:32:28,414 --> 01:32:30,335
Now it says even the small amounts of

2692
01:32:30,335 --> 01:32:32,654
these chemicals that most people have in their

2693
01:32:32,654 --> 01:32:33,154
bodies

2694
01:32:33,854 --> 01:32:36,114
may be enough to trigger developmental or immunological

2695
01:32:36,255 --> 01:32:38,194
effects. Make sure you just heard that.

2696
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:39,140
In

2697
01:32:40,399 --> 01:32:42,000
1994, and this is all the all the

2698
01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:43,679
source material, the links, it's all in the

2699
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:44,179
show.

2700
01:32:44,719 --> 01:32:48,079
Even the small amounts that we all have

2701
01:32:48,079 --> 01:32:48,979
in our bodies,

2702
01:32:49,760 --> 01:32:51,520
or rather most people, I would argue is

2703
01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:52,819
pretty ubiquitous today,

2704
01:32:53,645 --> 01:32:57,024
are enough to trigger developmental or immunological effects.

2705
01:32:59,085 --> 01:33:01,725
According to Birnbaum, the current dietary intake of

2706
01:33:01,725 --> 01:33:04,204
dioxin and closely related compounds may be, quote,

2707
01:33:04,204 --> 01:33:07,189
very close to the danger zone in 1994.

2708
01:33:07,489 --> 01:33:09,090
And remember, we just showed you, it's been

2709
01:33:09,090 --> 01:33:11,729
expend it's been increasing ever since. And right

2710
01:33:11,729 --> 01:33:13,590
now, are markedly on the rise.

2711
01:33:14,369 --> 01:33:16,390
And so they're saying back then, the current

2712
01:33:16,529 --> 01:33:18,289
amount may be very close to the danger

2713
01:33:18,289 --> 01:33:19,810
zone. So we're if that's the case, we're

2714
01:33:19,810 --> 01:33:21,430
over that by now, without question.

2715
01:33:22,244 --> 01:33:24,645
If current human levels are at or near

2716
01:33:24,645 --> 01:33:26,664
the point where effects are occurring,

2717
01:33:27,685 --> 01:33:29,764
that means we don't have any kind of

2718
01:33:29,764 --> 01:33:30,824
margin of safety,

2719
01:33:31,204 --> 01:33:33,304
especially now that we're beyond that point. Right?

2720
01:33:33,524 --> 01:33:35,925
And there certainly are people in the population

2721
01:33:35,925 --> 01:33:37,704
who are way above that level.

2722
01:33:38,989 --> 01:33:41,470
Wouldn't it seem like something Americans should know

2723
01:33:41,470 --> 01:33:41,970
about?

2724
01:33:42,590 --> 01:33:44,270
Especially from a group that's claims to be

2725
01:33:44,270 --> 01:33:46,050
working out for your environmental protection?

2726
01:33:48,030 --> 01:33:49,949
Quote, we've never said in the New York

2727
01:33:49,949 --> 01:33:51,810
Times that dioxin is not dangerous,

2728
01:33:52,244 --> 01:33:54,585
Schneider told a group of journalists last fall.

2729
01:33:54,885 --> 01:33:56,085
So a couple years later, he's going, I

2730
01:33:56,085 --> 01:33:57,604
know. I didn't say that. Well, you did,

2731
01:33:57,604 --> 01:33:59,364
though, and it's very easy to prove. He

2732
01:33:59,364 --> 01:34:01,284
told this writer, the person writing this article

2733
01:34:01,284 --> 01:34:03,925
in spring of 1993, that his conclusion in

2734
01:34:03,925 --> 01:34:04,984
March of 1993

2735
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,079
was that, quote, new research indicates that dioxin

2736
01:34:08,079 --> 01:34:09,699
may not be so dangerous after

2737
01:34:10,079 --> 01:34:12,399
all. And that apparently only refers to dioxin

2738
01:34:12,399 --> 01:34:15,279
cancer causing potential, not other health effects. Quite

2739
01:34:15,279 --> 01:34:15,939
the sidestep.

2740
01:34:16,800 --> 01:34:18,614
So just so it's clear, even in his

2741
01:34:18,614 --> 01:34:20,215
follow-up, he has to admit that they are

2742
01:34:20,215 --> 01:34:22,255
very dangerous and tries to dispute or dis

2743
01:34:22,614 --> 01:34:24,395
differentiate between specific things.

2744
01:34:24,695 --> 01:34:26,215
Now, it was pretty clear they were saying

2745
01:34:26,215 --> 01:34:28,454
not dangerous after all. Not not as bad

2746
01:34:28,454 --> 01:34:29,195
as sunbathing.

2747
01:34:31,819 --> 01:34:33,899
And it says, the article, however, fails to

2748
01:34:33,899 --> 01:34:34,719
make that point.

2749
01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:36,800
On May 11, 1994,

2750
01:34:37,420 --> 01:34:39,500
Schneider reported in The Times that he had

2751
01:34:39,500 --> 01:34:41,439
obtained a draft of the EPA reassessment.

2752
01:34:41,899 --> 01:34:44,485
And for the first time, he detailed studies

2753
01:34:44,485 --> 01:34:47,445
showing dioxin's effects on developing embryos and on

2754
01:34:47,445 --> 01:34:50,185
the immune and reproductive systems. So for years,

2755
01:34:50,485 --> 01:34:52,244
many people went along with this not being

2756
01:34:52,244 --> 01:34:53,525
a problem because they said so in the

2757
01:34:53,525 --> 01:34:55,545
New York Times. Now here's the same writer

2758
01:34:55,925 --> 01:34:57,960
admitting that there is a problem. It says,

2759
01:34:57,960 --> 01:35:00,119
but as for cancer, this is crazy. He

2760
01:35:00,119 --> 01:35:03,319
wrote that the draft called into question Jackson's

2761
01:35:03,319 --> 01:35:05,260
reputation as a deadly killer of people.

2762
01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,920
According to Lynn Goldman, EPA assistant administrator for

2763
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:09,420
prevention,

2764
01:35:09,855 --> 01:35:12,355
pest, pesticides and toxic substances,

2765
01:35:12,735 --> 01:35:14,835
nothing in the draft supported the observation.

2766
01:35:15,534 --> 01:35:17,215
So even after this, they're still trying to

2767
01:35:17,215 --> 01:35:19,055
kind of sidestep some of these problems. So

2768
01:35:19,055 --> 01:35:20,114
so something

2769
01:35:20,494 --> 01:35:23,149
is driving this. Why would these random people

2770
01:35:23,149 --> 01:35:24,829
have this interest in trying to hide the

2771
01:35:24,829 --> 01:35:25,329
facts?

2772
01:35:25,949 --> 01:35:27,710
It says it's not in there, she said

2773
01:35:27,710 --> 01:35:30,270
in May. The report reaffirms that dioxin is

2774
01:35:30,270 --> 01:35:32,510
a probable cause of cancer in humans. Now

2775
01:35:32,510 --> 01:35:34,189
it says whether or not its cancer risk

2776
01:35:34,189 --> 01:35:37,034
is less than once thought, according to CDC

2777
01:35:37,034 --> 01:35:38,654
health scientist Mark McClanahan,

2778
01:35:39,515 --> 01:35:40,015
dioxin

2779
01:35:40,395 --> 01:35:41,774
is the most potent

2780
01:35:42,234 --> 01:35:44,734
cancer causing chemical ever tested.

2781
01:35:45,594 --> 01:35:47,534
That's from a CDC health scientist

2782
01:35:47,994 --> 01:35:48,814
in 1994.

2783
01:35:49,274 --> 01:35:50,635
I'm willing to bet you won't hear that

2784
01:35:50,635 --> 01:35:51,534
from them today.

2785
01:35:53,300 --> 01:35:54,439
It is the

2786
01:35:55,219 --> 01:35:58,659
most potent cancer causing chemical ever tested, at

2787
01:35:58,659 --> 01:35:59,559
least in 1994.

2788
01:36:00,020 --> 01:36:02,819
It is 1,000, he says, of times more

2789
01:36:02,819 --> 01:36:05,460
powerful than most other chemicals that cause cancers

2790
01:36:05,460 --> 01:36:06,119
in animals.

2791
01:36:06,525 --> 01:36:09,905
Even the lowest cancer risk estimates for rats

2792
01:36:10,045 --> 01:36:13,185
suggested by industry studies rate dioxin, get this,

2793
01:36:13,485 --> 01:36:14,625
nearly 2,000,000

2794
01:36:15,005 --> 01:36:16,784
times stronger than benzene.

2795
01:36:17,564 --> 01:36:19,744
One of a handful of known human carcinogens.

2796
01:36:20,359 --> 01:36:20,859
2,000,000

2797
01:36:21,399 --> 01:36:22,300
times more

2798
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:25,079
dangerous in a cancer causing sense, according to

2799
01:36:25,079 --> 01:36:26,300
a CDC health scientist.

2800
01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,640
But we're all crazy. Right? Vernon Houck, whose

2801
01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:34,600
views on dioxin to have been controversial since

2802
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,215
the early 19 eighties when the CDC began

2803
01:36:37,215 --> 01:36:39,635
investigating Agent Orange health claims,

2804
01:36:40,335 --> 01:36:42,574
once wrote that dioxin again, I argue that

2805
01:36:42,574 --> 01:36:44,175
was a test, both the use of a

2806
01:36:44,175 --> 01:36:45,935
chemical weapon for their own purposes under the

2807
01:36:45,935 --> 01:36:46,914
guise of removing

2808
01:36:47,215 --> 01:36:47,715
foliage,

2809
01:36:48,735 --> 01:36:50,655
but then also wanting to know what it

2810
01:36:50,655 --> 01:36:51,155
did.

2811
01:36:51,649 --> 01:36:53,670
So that's your government has done this

2812
01:36:54,530 --> 01:36:56,289
at every opportunity, it seems, if you look

2813
01:36:56,289 --> 01:36:58,229
back in history. To you as well.

2814
01:36:59,250 --> 01:37:01,250
But it says they wrote that dioxin, quote,

2815
01:37:01,250 --> 01:37:02,710
may be without consequence,

2816
01:37:03,170 --> 01:37:05,170
even in very high dose exposure to humans.

2817
01:37:05,170 --> 01:37:07,114
You know why? Because that's not what they

2818
01:37:07,114 --> 01:37:09,195
found. We can prove what actually happened to

2819
01:37:09,195 --> 01:37:11,275
people that suffered this in Vietnam. They did

2820
01:37:11,275 --> 01:37:13,034
this because they had just used it on

2821
01:37:13,034 --> 01:37:13,935
a bunch of civilians.

2822
01:37:14,635 --> 01:37:16,395
That's my opinion, obviously. But my point is

2823
01:37:16,395 --> 01:37:18,494
you can prove that wasn't the case now.

2824
01:37:18,630 --> 01:37:21,210
Now it says during a 1990 congressional investigation,

2825
01:37:21,590 --> 01:37:24,469
Houk acknowledged under oath that he had written

2826
01:37:24,469 --> 01:37:27,029
those words in a letter urging Canada to

2827
01:37:27,029 --> 01:37:28,489
relax dioxin standards.

2828
01:37:29,510 --> 01:37:30,010
Why?

2829
01:37:30,469 --> 01:37:31,850
Who drove him to do that?

2830
01:37:32,425 --> 01:37:34,505
Now it says he is now too ill

2831
01:37:34,505 --> 01:37:35,244
for interviews.

2832
01:37:36,104 --> 01:37:38,444
But he told this writer last year, quote,

2833
01:37:38,585 --> 01:37:40,585
no one in their right mind would make

2834
01:37:40,585 --> 01:37:43,385
that statement. I clearly believe that dioxin is

2835
01:37:43,385 --> 01:37:45,704
harmful at high levels, and it is at

2836
01:37:45,704 --> 01:37:46,925
every level, guys.

2837
01:37:47,239 --> 01:37:49,479
But think about that shift. So what he's

2838
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:51,640
dying and now he changes tune? Who was

2839
01:37:51,640 --> 01:37:52,460
driving this?

2840
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:54,939
That's very important to think about.

2841
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,960
Hooks views apparently were the basis for a

2842
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,645
New York Times editorial claiming that, quote, federal

2843
01:38:00,645 --> 01:38:02,824
officials now believe they have overreacted

2844
01:38:03,444 --> 01:38:06,104
in setting extremely low exposure limits for dioxins

2845
01:38:06,244 --> 01:38:09,125
and in prematurely evacuating all the residents of

2846
01:38:09,125 --> 01:38:10,885
Times Beach. All of that's fake. We know

2847
01:38:10,885 --> 01:38:12,564
that for a fact today. Not fake, which

2848
01:38:12,564 --> 01:38:13,064
incorrect.

2849
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,520
But my point is that even after this,

2850
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,199
they were still going back and forth trying

2851
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:19,760
to downplay the information. It's this is ongoing

2852
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:21,220
today as far as I can tell.

2853
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:22,739
Now it says,

2854
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,239
he has also shaken their he he has

2855
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:28,180
also shaken the reporting community.

2856
01:38:28,755 --> 01:38:30,114
And this the the going this is now

2857
01:38:30,114 --> 01:38:32,935
the point is that they've today, Schreiter specifically

2858
01:38:33,074 --> 01:38:33,735
or Schneider,

2859
01:38:34,515 --> 01:38:35,895
admits that they made a mistake.

2860
01:38:36,354 --> 01:38:38,114
Now it says in the same newsletter, USA

2861
01:38:38,114 --> 01:38:40,215
Today environmental editor, Ray Tyson,

2862
01:38:40,755 --> 01:38:43,074
pointed out that healthy skepticism has always been

2863
01:38:43,074 --> 01:38:44,135
a part of good journalism.

2864
01:38:44,730 --> 01:38:47,050
It's like saying 1 +1 equals 2. It's

2865
01:38:47,050 --> 01:38:49,369
like, obviously, objectivity. But it says, but he

2866
01:38:49,369 --> 01:38:51,610
wrote, quote, I think Schneider messed up. Oh,

2867
01:38:51,610 --> 01:38:53,130
this the quote it's it's hold on. Let

2868
01:38:53,130 --> 01:38:54,570
me read all the way through. And not

2869
01:38:54,570 --> 01:38:56,810
because he questioned a time honored premise, but

2870
01:38:56,810 --> 01:38:59,130
because he relied on some questionable science to

2871
01:38:59,130 --> 01:39:01,534
prove his point. Therein lies a lesson for

2872
01:39:01,534 --> 01:39:04,034
all who strive to understand the real environmental

2873
01:39:04,095 --> 01:39:06,095
hazards of our world. So maybe the doctrine

2874
01:39:06,095 --> 01:39:08,494
confusion, that's a very generous word right there,

2875
01:39:08,494 --> 01:39:10,735
can serve a purpose after all for journalists

2876
01:39:10,735 --> 01:39:12,895
and readers alike, to recognize how easy it

2877
01:39:12,895 --> 01:39:14,895
is to be misled by fake information in

2878
01:39:14,895 --> 01:39:15,555
the media.

2879
01:39:16,090 --> 01:39:17,610
Now, I I guess I didn't grab it.

2880
01:39:17,610 --> 01:39:18,970
The point is is you could read through

2881
01:39:18,970 --> 01:39:20,729
this because we obviously know that wasn't true

2882
01:39:20,729 --> 01:39:22,409
today. That's a fact. You can prove it.

2883
01:39:22,409 --> 01:39:24,010
And in this, as you even saw one

2884
01:39:24,010 --> 01:39:26,489
already, Schneider essentially walks this back as he

2885
01:39:26,489 --> 01:39:28,430
as he continues to talk about this.

2886
01:39:29,895 --> 01:39:30,554
So here

2887
01:39:30,935 --> 01:39:33,835
is the CNN article, 1 year later.

2888
01:39:34,375 --> 01:39:36,935
K. Despite all of that, here's what CNN

2889
01:39:36,935 --> 01:39:38,395
reported in 1995.

2890
01:39:38,854 --> 01:39:41,094
Dioxins may be creating a larger problem down

2891
01:39:41,094 --> 01:39:41,675
the road.

2892
01:39:42,020 --> 01:39:43,300
And the point again is to show that

2893
01:39:43,300 --> 01:39:44,760
dioxins are become airborne

2894
01:39:45,060 --> 01:39:47,219
and travel 1,000 of miles away. So whether

2895
01:39:47,219 --> 01:39:50,500
it's Bakersfield, whether it is East Palestine or

2896
01:39:50,500 --> 01:39:51,399
Conyers, Georgia,

2897
01:39:51,779 --> 01:39:54,199
that's what's happening with things just like this.

2898
01:39:54,735 --> 01:39:56,895
It's ease easily proven. It's not true because

2899
01:39:56,895 --> 01:39:58,414
CNN said so. It's true because it is

2900
01:39:58,414 --> 01:40:00,335
true. And that today, they wouldn't say it.

2901
01:40:00,335 --> 01:40:02,335
Like, I mean, they have they have this

2902
01:40:02,335 --> 01:40:04,574
background. They know it's there. Why aren't they

2903
01:40:04,574 --> 01:40:05,395
saying it today?

2904
01:40:06,255 --> 01:40:08,015
Same reason New York Times tried to lie

2905
01:40:08,015 --> 01:40:09,539
about it, in my opinion. Now it says

2906
01:40:09,539 --> 01:40:11,380
a Big Mac or Pizza Hut personal pan

2907
01:40:11,380 --> 01:40:11,880
pizza

2908
01:40:13,859 --> 01:40:16,260
or 3 pieces of Kentucky chicken gave us

2909
01:40:16,260 --> 01:40:19,619
about 8 to a 150 times more dioxins

2910
01:40:19,619 --> 01:40:21,060
than the EPA feels would be safe. Now

2911
01:40:21,060 --> 01:40:22,359
we just went over those levels.

2912
01:40:22,925 --> 01:40:24,685
8 times what we're talking about with all

2913
01:40:24,685 --> 01:40:27,185
we just saw is shocking. But a 150

2914
01:40:27,805 --> 01:40:30,204
times the safe level? Well, we just read

2915
01:40:30,204 --> 01:40:31,185
what that can do.

2916
01:40:31,885 --> 01:40:33,564
That's crazy to me. And that's in the

2917
01:40:33,564 --> 01:40:35,345
food you're eating. Back in 1995.

2918
01:40:36,800 --> 01:40:38,159
And the point is, he goes on to

2919
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:40,480
highlight, the restaurants can't help it. Dioxins have

2920
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:42,000
had years to build up in the food

2921
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,079
chain. Yeah. That's what we just pointed out.

2922
01:40:44,079 --> 01:40:45,920
And I just made clear, they know about

2923
01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:48,000
that. And they've just done nothing to stop

2924
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:48,500
it.

2925
01:40:48,985 --> 01:40:50,824
That's why the EPA wants to change the

2926
01:40:50,824 --> 01:40:52,744
standards, but they did not as far as

2927
01:40:52,744 --> 01:40:53,565
I can tell.

2928
01:40:55,465 --> 01:40:58,824
It says, it recently said even lower levels

2929
01:40:58,824 --> 01:41:01,065
of dioxins can hurt us by weakening our

2930
01:41:01,065 --> 01:41:03,485
immunities or attacking our reproductive system.

2931
01:41:04,470 --> 01:41:06,310
But even though they just said that, even

2932
01:41:06,310 --> 01:41:08,229
in this report, it says the EPA's review

2933
01:41:08,229 --> 01:41:10,489
board thinks that they might be too restrictive.

2934
01:41:11,109 --> 01:41:13,189
Think about that. As we're acknowledging the problems,

2935
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:14,710
we're going, but, well, we don't wanna restrict

2936
01:41:14,710 --> 01:41:16,470
it too much. Clearly, they care about your

2937
01:41:16,470 --> 01:41:16,970
health.

2938
01:41:18,005 --> 01:41:19,444
Now you could there's more read this whole

2939
01:41:19,444 --> 01:41:21,284
interview. I've gone over it many times. One

2940
01:41:21,284 --> 01:41:22,404
of the main points at the end is

2941
01:41:22,404 --> 01:41:24,164
simply the idea that they highlight that, well,

2942
01:41:24,164 --> 01:41:25,864
the chlorine companies push back.

2943
01:41:27,764 --> 01:41:29,764
Where it says, right here. It says, and

2944
01:41:29,764 --> 01:41:31,764
the chlorine industry believes that each one should

2945
01:41:31,764 --> 01:41:33,145
be tested and judged separately.

2946
01:41:33,539 --> 01:41:35,460
Right? So we recognize from a comp from

2947
01:41:35,460 --> 01:41:37,300
a from an industry standpoint or rather an

2948
01:41:37,300 --> 01:41:40,020
institution standpoint, your only job being the may

2949
01:41:40,099 --> 01:41:42,119
the environmental protection and and health.

2950
01:41:42,420 --> 01:41:44,099
And you find a problem that is acutely

2951
01:41:44,099 --> 01:41:46,515
dangerous, you can prove it, and you bow

2952
01:41:46,515 --> 01:41:48,515
to the corporate interests that say, well, let's

2953
01:41:48,515 --> 01:41:50,594
let's test them individually and come down to

2954
01:41:50,675 --> 01:41:52,515
well, there's just logic to that that you

2955
01:41:52,515 --> 01:41:54,194
shouldn't just buy the point is it's not

2956
01:41:54,194 --> 01:41:56,755
about individual products, it's about chlorine, which they

2957
01:41:56,755 --> 01:41:57,414
knew then.

2958
01:41:57,920 --> 01:41:59,679
And guess what? Because they pushed back and

2959
01:41:59,679 --> 01:42:02,079
bowed to corporate interest, nothing happened. As we

2960
01:42:02,079 --> 01:42:04,340
can see today, it's getting markedly worse.

2961
01:42:08,079 --> 01:42:10,159
Now last few points. It's important for us

2962
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:12,800
to remember what Steven Lesher said Lester, excuse

2963
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:13,300
me,

2964
01:42:13,635 --> 01:42:14,135
said

2965
01:42:15,635 --> 01:42:17,414
over a year ago about east Palestine.

2966
01:42:18,595 --> 01:42:20,914
Here's the real reason the EPA doesn't wanna

2967
01:42:20,914 --> 01:42:23,895
test for toxins, specifically dioxins, at east Palestine.

2968
01:42:24,435 --> 01:42:26,914
He says it's well documented that burning chlorinated

2969
01:42:26,914 --> 01:42:29,449
chemicals like vinyl chloride or just chlorine

2970
01:42:30,070 --> 01:42:31,369
will generate dioxins.

2971
01:42:32,390 --> 01:42:35,190
Quote, dioxin is the name given to a

2972
01:42:35,190 --> 01:42:37,369
group of persistent, very toxic chemicals

2973
01:42:37,909 --> 01:42:40,730
that share similar similar chemical structures.

2974
01:42:41,454 --> 01:42:44,114
The most toxic form of dioxin, 2378,

2975
01:42:45,454 --> 01:42:47,375
or I'll just say TCDD because that's a

2976
01:42:47,375 --> 01:42:48,994
hard one to pronounce. TCDD

2977
01:42:49,375 --> 01:42:50,914
is more commonly recognized

2978
01:42:51,695 --> 01:42:54,275
as the toxic contaminant found in Agent Orange,

2979
01:42:54,735 --> 01:42:57,520
Love Canal, New York, and Times Beach, Missouri.

2980
01:42:57,900 --> 01:42:59,360
Both sites of 2

2981
01:42:59,900 --> 01:43:02,560
of the most tragic environmental catastrophes

2982
01:43:03,020 --> 01:43:05,260
in the US. And realize, again, you can

2983
01:43:05,260 --> 01:43:07,280
prove that some of these locations are objectively

2984
01:43:07,340 --> 01:43:09,199
smaller than what we're talking about today.

2985
01:43:09,994 --> 01:43:12,314
So there is a willful disregard right there.

2986
01:43:12,314 --> 01:43:13,614
A willful ignorance.

2987
01:43:14,314 --> 01:43:16,074
It says dioxin is I mean, even in

2988
01:43:16,074 --> 01:43:17,914
the Guardian, this guy's writing about it during

2989
01:43:17,914 --> 01:43:19,994
East Palestine saying they know it and they're

2990
01:43:19,994 --> 01:43:21,835
ignoring it. And he this guy is an

2991
01:43:21,835 --> 01:43:23,194
expert. He's this is what he does. We've

2992
01:43:23,194 --> 01:43:24,734
talked about the past, him testing.

2993
01:43:26,010 --> 01:43:27,710
Now it says, ted dioxin

2994
01:43:29,050 --> 01:43:30,829
is deliberate is not deliberately

2995
01:43:31,210 --> 01:43:34,170
manufactured. Well, that's up generally speaking, but I

2996
01:43:34,170 --> 01:43:35,770
would argue they've done this in the past

2997
01:43:35,770 --> 01:43:37,929
for weapons, which we've already proven. They've used

2998
01:43:37,929 --> 01:43:39,210
this to try to kill a president in

2999
01:43:39,210 --> 01:43:40,349
Ukraine in the past.

3000
01:43:40,965 --> 01:43:44,425
It is the unintended byproduct of industrial processes

3001
01:43:44,484 --> 01:43:45,784
that use or burn chlorine.

3002
01:43:46,484 --> 01:43:48,725
That's by and large. Right? 80% of which

3003
01:43:48,725 --> 01:43:51,125
come from specifically g 20 countries, most of

3004
01:43:51,125 --> 01:43:52,645
which comes to the United States and Canada

3005
01:43:52,645 --> 01:43:54,104
as far as I understand it.

3006
01:43:54,500 --> 01:43:55,939
And the point is that this is all

3007
01:43:55,939 --> 01:43:58,360
something as being that we could ultimately stop.

3008
01:43:59,060 --> 01:44:00,739
Now it says the organization I work for,

3009
01:44:00,739 --> 01:44:02,739
he writes, this is Steven, the Center For

3010
01:44:02,739 --> 01:44:05,220
Health, Environment, and Justice has worked for community

3011
01:44:05,300 --> 01:44:07,939
with communities affected by dioxins for already over

3012
01:44:07,939 --> 01:44:08,920
40 years.

3013
01:44:09,354 --> 01:44:11,354
We have seen the impact of exposure to

3014
01:44:11,354 --> 01:44:13,835
dioxins in communities from Love Canal to Times

3015
01:44:13,835 --> 01:44:16,554
Beach to Pensacola, Florida. And now we are

3016
01:44:16,554 --> 01:44:17,054
asking,

3017
01:44:17,675 --> 01:44:20,474
why isn't EPA testing for dioxins in East

3018
01:44:20,474 --> 01:44:20,974
Palestine?

3019
01:44:21,274 --> 01:44:22,795
And then this was on this is the

3020
01:44:22,795 --> 01:44:24,094
date March 2nd.

3021
01:44:26,100 --> 01:44:28,100
And he says, are dioxins present in the

3022
01:44:28,100 --> 01:44:30,500
soil downwind from the site of the accident?

3023
01:44:30,500 --> 01:44:32,600
Well, yeah, we know that now. Yes. 100%.

3024
01:44:34,659 --> 01:44:37,300
He says, one person who lived 15 miles

3025
01:44:37,300 --> 01:44:38,520
away described

3026
01:44:39,885 --> 01:44:42,604
burned ash material from the fire that settled

3027
01:44:42,604 --> 01:44:43,425
on her property.

3028
01:44:43,804 --> 01:44:46,545
Again, 16 states across, we now know.

3029
01:44:47,484 --> 01:44:49,965
Another who lived 3 miles away described how

3030
01:44:49,965 --> 01:44:52,784
the black cloud completely smothered his property.

3031
01:44:53,510 --> 01:44:55,829
These are important questions that deserve to be

3032
01:44:55,829 --> 01:44:57,670
answered. But it's just simply saying what's going

3033
01:44:57,670 --> 01:44:59,350
on with farm animals and so on, kids

3034
01:44:59,350 --> 01:45:01,770
playing. Today, there are no clear answers,

3035
01:45:02,150 --> 01:45:04,650
which is wild still, by the way.

3036
01:45:05,190 --> 01:45:06,250
He says why?

3037
01:45:06,784 --> 01:45:08,784
He answers his question, because no one has

3038
01:45:08,784 --> 01:45:11,185
done any testing for dioxins anywhere in his

3039
01:45:11,185 --> 01:45:13,685
Palestine, which eventually they they claimed they did.

3040
01:45:13,905 --> 01:45:16,625
The numbers they showed were embarrassingly small compared

3041
01:45:16,625 --> 01:45:18,704
to what every independent expert found. So I

3042
01:45:18,784 --> 01:45:21,119
they meet I argued they either didn't or

3043
01:45:22,159 --> 01:45:22,659
manipulated

3044
01:45:23,199 --> 01:45:24,800
it. But at this point, they hadn't, which

3045
01:45:24,800 --> 01:45:26,640
is wild to think about. Because they knew

3046
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,720
it was there and didn't, which makes my

3047
01:45:28,720 --> 01:45:30,979
point. And he's backing that up.

3048
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:34,340
And he says no one

3049
01:45:34,905 --> 01:45:36,345
No one is testing for dioxin in this

3050
01:45:36,345 --> 01:45:38,185
policy. No one. And it seems that the

3051
01:45:38,185 --> 01:45:41,305
EPA is uninterested in testing for dioxins, behaving

3052
01:45:41,305 --> 01:45:43,225
as though dioxin is no big deal. No.

3053
01:45:43,225 --> 01:45:45,164
I argued they were pretending it didn't exist,

3054
01:45:45,305 --> 01:45:46,585
acting like they didn't even know what it

3055
01:45:46,585 --> 01:45:48,425
was, telling the doctors at the hospital to

3056
01:45:48,425 --> 01:45:49,725
not give them those tests.

3057
01:45:50,210 --> 01:45:52,770
This makes no sense, he writes. Testing for

3058
01:45:52,770 --> 01:45:53,270
dioxin,

3059
01:45:53,729 --> 01:45:56,369
a highly toxic substance, should have been one

3060
01:45:56,369 --> 01:45:58,710
of the first things to look for,

3061
01:45:59,329 --> 01:46:02,050
especially in the air once the decision was

3062
01:46:02,050 --> 01:46:03,729
made to burn vinyl chloride to bullets. Remember,

3063
01:46:03,729 --> 01:46:05,029
that wasn't how that worked.

3064
01:46:05,435 --> 01:46:07,755
Wasn't a controlled burn. It wasn't a decision.

3065
01:46:07,755 --> 01:46:09,994
It was a railroading, no pun intended, of

3066
01:46:09,994 --> 01:46:12,414
the local fire chief. As he said himself,

3067
01:46:13,194 --> 01:46:14,814
as we'll highlight with this article,

3068
01:46:16,635 --> 01:46:17,135
investigation

3069
01:46:17,435 --> 01:46:20,975
found East Palestine, quote, controlled burn was unnecessary.

3070
01:46:21,409 --> 01:46:23,109
The no Norfolk lied.

3071
01:46:23,409 --> 01:46:26,210
Allan Shaw himself in this court proceeding, it

3072
01:46:26,210 --> 01:46:28,689
it came out that his expert admitted this

3073
01:46:28,689 --> 01:46:31,010
was treated vinyl chloride and most likely would

3074
01:46:31,010 --> 01:46:31,750
not explode.

3075
01:46:32,609 --> 01:46:34,869
And then they told the fire chief everything

3076
01:46:34,930 --> 01:46:36,515
but that. And then

3077
01:46:36,975 --> 01:46:39,215
pressured him to make a rapid decision without

3078
01:46:39,215 --> 01:46:41,135
knowing that, which ultimately decided to blow it

3079
01:46:41,135 --> 01:46:42,895
up. And that gain I think that was

3080
01:46:42,895 --> 01:46:44,274
exactly what they wanted.

3081
01:46:44,814 --> 01:46:46,734
Either way, as I just showed yesterday, they're

3082
01:46:46,734 --> 01:46:48,414
like, we've got 49 new people working with

3083
01:46:48,414 --> 01:46:49,935
us, so you were doing great. Seems like

3084
01:46:49,935 --> 01:46:51,600
they benefited in the long run,

3085
01:46:52,159 --> 01:46:53,380
which blows my mind.

3086
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,680
Either way, whatever you think about how it

3087
01:46:55,680 --> 01:46:57,600
went down, the point was that this was

3088
01:46:57,600 --> 01:46:59,439
a deliberate choice that didn't need to happen.

3089
01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,119
Whether it was for greed or some other

3090
01:47:01,119 --> 01:47:02,260
larger cover up.

3091
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:05,380
So as he's talking about this,

3092
01:47:09,185 --> 01:47:11,104
this says that they the air, decision was

3093
01:47:11,104 --> 01:47:12,784
made to burn the vinyl chloride. That didn't

3094
01:47:12,784 --> 01:47:14,465
have to happen. And that is where the

3095
01:47:14,465 --> 01:47:16,704
disaster truly came from. It says there is

3096
01:47:16,704 --> 01:47:18,545
no question that dioxins were formed in the

3097
01:47:18,545 --> 01:47:20,909
vinyl chloride fire. No question. That's my point.

3098
01:47:20,909 --> 01:47:23,150
You have to realize how undeniable that is.

3099
01:47:23,150 --> 01:47:24,430
That's why I'm saying it about the other.

3100
01:47:24,430 --> 01:47:25,789
When you burn chlorine in the fire, it's

3101
01:47:25,789 --> 01:47:27,390
not a question of if, it's about how

3102
01:47:27,390 --> 01:47:27,890
much.

3103
01:47:28,590 --> 01:47:31,070
That's what Scott is saying as well. And

3104
01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:33,489
so they chose to pretend it wasn't there.

3105
01:47:33,555 --> 01:47:35,235
Now it says they would have formed on

3106
01:47:35,235 --> 01:47:38,114
that particulate matter, the black soot, in the

3107
01:47:38,114 --> 01:47:39,954
cloud that was so clearly visible at the

3108
01:47:39,954 --> 01:47:42,195
time of the burn. Now the question is

3109
01:47:42,195 --> 01:47:44,435
how much is in the soil where people

3110
01:47:44,435 --> 01:47:46,275
live in and around East Palestine, which they're

3111
01:47:46,275 --> 01:47:47,875
not talking about today. That was the soil

3112
01:47:47,875 --> 01:47:49,414
that we're shipping all over the country.

3113
01:47:50,329 --> 01:47:52,649
Without testing, no one will know, and the

3114
01:47:52,649 --> 01:47:54,489
people who live there will remain in the

3115
01:47:54,489 --> 01:47:56,189
dark, uncertain about their fate.

3116
01:47:56,729 --> 01:47:58,569
Now, I'll grab these really quickly for you

3117
01:47:58,569 --> 01:47:59,229
as well.

3118
01:48:01,770 --> 01:48:03,689
Or at least just this one. I don't

3119
01:48:03,689 --> 01:48:04,809
wanna have to search for the rest of

3120
01:48:04,809 --> 01:48:07,224
them. Because this is an important one. Again,

3121
01:48:07,524 --> 01:48:09,764
doing doing my due diligence and actually calling

3122
01:48:09,764 --> 01:48:11,925
these places I've referenced earlier, have them on

3123
01:48:11,925 --> 01:48:13,364
the phone, on the record. The all the

3124
01:48:13,364 --> 01:48:14,564
links are in there. You can download it

3125
01:48:14,564 --> 01:48:17,224
for yourself, which I speak to Clean Harbors.

3126
01:48:17,364 --> 01:48:19,125
And this is entitled the Clean Harbors Waste

3127
01:48:19,125 --> 01:48:20,585
Disposal Ohio scandal.

3128
01:48:21,239 --> 01:48:22,680
And they admit on the record that they

3129
01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:24,199
did not have what was necessary for what

3130
01:48:24,199 --> 01:48:25,180
we knew was there.

3131
01:48:26,119 --> 01:48:28,140
So they spread this all over the place.

3132
01:48:28,359 --> 01:48:30,439
Whether it's and and even Scott alluded to

3133
01:48:30,439 --> 01:48:32,119
Clean Harbors being some sort of central part

3134
01:48:32,119 --> 01:48:33,340
and some larger manipulation.

3135
01:48:35,125 --> 01:48:36,885
Now it says, it is important because of

3136
01:48:36,885 --> 01:48:39,524
the adverse health effects associated with exposure to

3137
01:48:39,524 --> 01:48:41,524
dioxins, which he knows about, and they do

3138
01:48:41,524 --> 01:48:42,024
too.

3139
01:48:42,404 --> 01:48:45,864
Exposure to dioxins can cause cancer, reproductive damage,

3140
01:48:46,005 --> 01:48:48,264
developmental problems, type 2 diabetes,

3141
01:48:49,119 --> 01:48:52,320
ischemic heart disease, infertility in adults, impairment in

3142
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,180
the immune system, and skin lesions.

3143
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:57,619
The EPA is very familiar with dioxins.

3144
01:48:58,079 --> 01:49:00,900
For more than 25 years, the agency evaluated

3145
01:49:01,605 --> 01:49:04,244
and assessed and then reassessed the risk posed

3146
01:49:04,244 --> 01:49:06,164
by exposure to toxins, but somehow don't know

3147
01:49:06,164 --> 01:49:06,985
about it today.

3148
01:49:07,685 --> 01:49:10,005
They published multiple draft reports on the health

3149
01:49:10,005 --> 01:49:12,105
effects caused by exposure to dioxins.

3150
01:49:12,565 --> 01:49:14,965
They published an inventory of dioxin sources and

3151
01:49:14,965 --> 01:49:17,859
devoted an enormous amount of time to studying

3152
01:49:17,920 --> 01:49:18,420
dioxins.

3153
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:22,000
The agency knows this chemical very well, but

3154
01:49:22,000 --> 01:49:22,819
yet somehow

3155
01:49:23,439 --> 01:49:24,979
didn't know to bring it up.

3156
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:25,939
Hardly.

3157
01:49:27,039 --> 01:49:28,479
There's no way in my mind to overlook

3158
01:49:28,479 --> 01:49:30,079
this, guys. It was a willful choice to

3159
01:49:30,079 --> 01:49:32,074
keep it from the discussion. So that that

3160
01:49:32,074 --> 01:49:33,194
that doesn't have to mean they didn't do

3161
01:49:33,194 --> 01:49:34,975
it. Maybe they were trying to solve it.

3162
01:49:35,274 --> 01:49:36,554
I don't think that. But, you know, who

3163
01:49:36,554 --> 01:49:38,234
knows? Maybe behind the scenes, they were doing

3164
01:49:38,234 --> 01:49:40,154
everything they could. But it still means they

3165
01:49:40,154 --> 01:49:42,074
lied to you about it. Didn't let you

3166
01:49:42,074 --> 01:49:44,335
make your choices to keep your family safe.

3167
01:49:45,270 --> 01:49:46,970
That's really important to understand.

3168
01:49:47,989 --> 01:49:50,229
He says, so why is EPA unwilling to

3169
01:49:50,229 --> 01:49:51,850
test for dioxins in the soil?

3170
01:49:52,229 --> 01:49:54,649
He says, this is exactly what I think.

3171
01:49:54,869 --> 01:49:57,030
My guess, he says, is because they know

3172
01:49:57,030 --> 01:49:58,250
they will find it.

3173
01:49:58,895 --> 01:50:00,114
And if they find it,

3174
01:50:00,574 --> 01:50:03,055
they'll have to address the many questions people

3175
01:50:03,055 --> 01:50:03,715
are asking.

3176
01:50:04,015 --> 01:50:06,255
Largely, how did this start? Why didn't you

3177
01:50:06,255 --> 01:50:08,094
do anything before? Why haven't you been telling

3178
01:50:08,255 --> 01:50:09,614
of course, when you dig into this, you

3179
01:50:09,614 --> 01:50:11,500
find everything we're talking about. Wait a minute.

3180
01:50:11,500 --> 01:50:13,179
Here's a study you're talking about this 20

3181
01:50:13,179 --> 01:50:14,939
years ago. Why didn't this was why wasn't

3182
01:50:14,939 --> 01:50:16,319
this the first thing you brought up?

3183
01:50:16,699 --> 01:50:19,260
Uh-oh. See how this cascading problem begins? Suddenly

3184
01:50:19,260 --> 01:50:20,619
you find out the government has been doing

3185
01:50:20,619 --> 01:50:22,300
things that they know produce it, and not

3186
01:50:22,300 --> 01:50:25,435
telling you. Covering things up, hiding disasters, not

3187
01:50:25,435 --> 01:50:26,715
bringing it up when we know it's a

3188
01:50:26,715 --> 01:50:28,975
problem. There's something much bigger here.

3189
01:50:29,835 --> 01:50:31,435
He says the people who live there in

3190
01:50:31,435 --> 01:50:33,515
this East Palestine, but same with Conyers and

3191
01:50:33,515 --> 01:50:36,619
Bakersfield and wherever else, need to know so

3192
01:50:36,619 --> 01:50:38,800
they can make informed decisions about their future

3193
01:50:39,100 --> 01:50:40,720
for the safety of their families.

3194
01:50:41,899 --> 01:50:43,340
But if you think for one second the

3195
01:50:43,340 --> 01:50:45,659
government is more concerned about your child's safety

3196
01:50:45,659 --> 01:50:47,739
over their agenda, I don't know what country

3197
01:50:47,739 --> 01:50:49,244
you think you're living in. Frankly, I don't

3198
01:50:49,244 --> 01:50:50,524
know what government in the world you think

3199
01:50:50,524 --> 01:50:52,045
you're living under because they're all the same

3200
01:50:52,045 --> 01:50:52,784
in my opinion.

3201
01:50:53,645 --> 01:50:55,024
But I'll end here

3202
01:50:55,324 --> 01:50:57,164
with, again, the reality that we know that

3203
01:50:57,164 --> 01:50:59,425
from East Palestine, it went 16 states across.

3204
01:50:59,564 --> 01:51:01,505
So when you're looking at pictures like this,

3205
01:51:02,810 --> 01:51:04,970
which was, I mean, look look at how

3206
01:51:04,970 --> 01:51:05,949
far this goes.

3207
01:51:06,810 --> 01:51:08,430
This is from, really graceful's

3208
01:51:09,609 --> 01:51:10,109
clip.

3209
01:51:10,409 --> 01:51:13,050
Look at that smoke, guys. That's from Colliers,

3210
01:51:13,050 --> 01:51:13,550
Georgia.

3211
01:51:14,170 --> 01:51:15,930
Look at how far that is. How long

3212
01:51:16,090 --> 01:51:17,564
this I mean, again, as

3213
01:51:18,024 --> 01:51:20,444
Scott was saying, this very well could be

3214
01:51:20,505 --> 01:51:21,965
the worst in history.

3215
01:51:23,064 --> 01:51:25,305
I really, really hope it's not the case.

3216
01:51:25,305 --> 01:51:26,984
I just want people in these locations to

3217
01:51:26,984 --> 01:51:28,345
be able to make their own decisions and

3218
01:51:28,345 --> 01:51:30,104
not hope. I mean, look at this. Look

3219
01:51:30,104 --> 01:51:31,784
at the inform like, that that is so

3220
01:51:31,784 --> 01:51:32,284
wild.

3221
01:51:36,859 --> 01:51:37,359
Lastly,

3222
01:51:37,739 --> 01:51:39,340
I'll include a clip that Jason just put

3223
01:51:39,340 --> 01:51:41,439
up for us on on, on Twitter

3224
01:51:42,060 --> 01:51:43,739
about Georgia. And it's a clip that we

3225
01:51:43,739 --> 01:51:45,260
went over from that last show about the

3226
01:51:45,260 --> 01:51:47,784
prolonged illness that's continuing, which does I think

3227
01:51:47,784 --> 01:51:49,545
you might even know oops. I think you

3228
01:51:49,545 --> 01:51:51,545
might be able to see it in here.

3229
01:51:51,545 --> 01:51:53,965
If it shows it really quickly, maybe not.

3230
01:51:54,265 --> 01:51:55,864
I was hoping they've caught the image of

3231
01:51:55,864 --> 01:51:57,305
the of the woman with her rash. It's

3232
01:51:57,305 --> 01:51:58,824
in there. I mean, watch for yourself. Just

3233
01:51:58,824 --> 01:52:00,824
showing you exactly what we're seeing. All the

3234
01:52:00,824 --> 01:52:03,000
signs, all the telltale signs of a real

3235
01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:03,899
problem are there.

3236
01:52:04,760 --> 01:52:06,840
Analyze and optimize an account that I'm I'm

3237
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:08,439
not familiar with. I just saw this today

3238
01:52:08,439 --> 01:52:09,819
looking through for stuff online.

3239
01:52:10,119 --> 01:52:11,579
It says, oh, and this is from

3240
01:52:12,520 --> 01:52:13,500
September 2024.

3241
01:52:14,199 --> 01:52:16,460
Obesity causing chemicals in the environment.

3242
01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:18,060
BPA?

3243
01:52:18,835 --> 01:52:21,795
PFAS. I think it's phthal what was it

3244
01:52:21,795 --> 01:52:22,295
again?

3245
01:52:22,994 --> 01:52:23,494
Phthalates?

3246
01:52:23,875 --> 01:52:25,314
Or is it phthalates? I forget it. The

3247
01:52:25,395 --> 01:52:26,994
this the p h t a l a

3248
01:52:26,994 --> 01:52:27,655
t e's.

3249
01:52:28,194 --> 01:52:32,454
Parabens, MSG, glyphosate, atrazine, PVCs, DDT,

3250
01:52:32,914 --> 01:52:35,550
particulate matter, p h a PAH, we just

3251
01:52:35,550 --> 01:52:37,489
talked about, p d p PBDEs,

3252
01:52:37,949 --> 01:52:39,329
dioxins, and more.

3253
01:52:39,710 --> 01:52:41,149
They say it's not just the it's it's

3254
01:52:41,149 --> 01:52:42,289
not just the food.

3255
01:52:42,909 --> 01:52:44,510
The point is simply to highlight, this stuff

3256
01:52:44,510 --> 01:52:46,689
is everywhere. It's not just the one thing.

3257
01:52:46,835 --> 01:52:48,594
There's some this is what as Catherine points

3258
01:52:48,594 --> 01:52:51,414
to the great poisoning. There's something very clear.

3259
01:52:51,875 --> 01:52:53,954
And I it's bigger than just one thing.

3260
01:52:53,954 --> 01:52:55,475
Now, look. I hope. I hope, like with

3261
01:52:55,475 --> 01:52:57,234
the Floyd point, even if it's a a

3262
01:52:57,234 --> 01:52:58,914
byproduct of the worst thing that we still

3263
01:52:58,914 --> 01:53:00,840
need to point out and fight against, I

3264
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:02,520
hope that RFK Junior has an effect on

3265
01:53:02,520 --> 01:53:04,760
this. We all should no matter how this

3266
01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:06,680
goes because that's a positive net effect. Now,

3267
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:09,640
before the lesser of evil's ploy, my point's

3268
01:53:09,640 --> 01:53:11,640
the same. Even with that net, I still

3269
01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,560
wouldn't argue you lean into something you don't

3270
01:53:13,560 --> 01:53:15,239
want. That's a game. That's a ploy. You're

3271
01:53:15,239 --> 01:53:17,284
being tricked. But now that we're here and,

3272
01:53:17,284 --> 01:53:18,564
again, you know my point. I don't think

3273
01:53:18,564 --> 01:53:19,845
any of that translated the way you think

3274
01:53:19,845 --> 01:53:21,385
it did. I think it's all a game.

3275
01:53:21,845 --> 01:53:23,125
It doesn't have to be in a real

3276
01:53:23,125 --> 01:53:24,645
representative government. But today, I think that's where

3277
01:53:24,645 --> 01:53:26,485
we are. The point is that now, yes,

3278
01:53:26,485 --> 01:53:28,265
we should hope for any positive benefit.

3279
01:53:29,969 --> 01:53:31,729
But very much beyond guard for how that

3280
01:53:31,729 --> 01:53:33,329
could hide larger things from you. Now, I'm

3281
01:53:33,329 --> 01:53:34,289
gonna get more into that in the pre

3282
01:53:34,369 --> 01:53:36,689
in the in cup coming shows and continue

3283
01:53:36,689 --> 01:53:38,130
to follow-up on the people that are being

3284
01:53:38,130 --> 01:53:40,689
put in position and foreign policy dynamic. But

3285
01:53:40,689 --> 01:53:42,289
I really do think this is important for

3286
01:53:42,289 --> 01:53:44,595
us to highlight for much larger reasons. Natural

3287
01:53:44,595 --> 01:53:45,574
immunity FTW

3288
01:53:45,954 --> 01:53:48,355
writes organic and non organic aren't good enough

3289
01:53:48,355 --> 01:53:50,994
anymore. We need a food testing program that

3290
01:53:50,994 --> 01:53:51,975
tests for PFAS,

3291
01:53:52,275 --> 01:53:55,635
phthalates or phthalates, PCBs, dioxins, heavy metals. I

3292
01:53:55,635 --> 01:53:56,695
mean, all this stuff

3293
01:53:57,329 --> 01:53:59,030
Not run by the government.

3294
01:53:59,570 --> 01:54:01,489
Thank you. I don't care whether it's the

3295
01:54:01,489 --> 01:54:02,630
government you like.

3296
01:54:02,930 --> 01:54:04,689
It's still the government, guys. And it's amazing

3297
01:54:04,689 --> 01:54:05,970
that we have to even make that point

3298
01:54:05,970 --> 01:54:08,470
today. How because we've digressed so many ways.

3299
01:54:09,105 --> 01:54:10,545
We need to make sure that this is

3300
01:54:10,545 --> 01:54:12,305
not done by the same entity that might

3301
01:54:12,305 --> 01:54:15,025
be influenced by lobbyists or their own personal

3302
01:54:15,025 --> 01:54:17,105
interests or whatever else, which is always where

3303
01:54:17,105 --> 01:54:18,005
we end up.

3304
01:54:18,545 --> 01:54:20,305
The point is that I'm glad to see

3305
01:54:20,305 --> 01:54:21,985
that more people are beginning to come away,

3306
01:54:21,985 --> 01:54:24,085
like, addressing whether seed oils.

3307
01:54:24,539 --> 01:54:26,859
Start there. Go in, but dive into how

3308
01:54:26,859 --> 01:54:29,819
dangerous and obvious and almost willful this all

3309
01:54:29,819 --> 01:54:30,639
seems to be.

3310
01:54:32,139 --> 01:54:33,739
And I'll end with this point, which I

3311
01:54:33,739 --> 01:54:35,899
should think is absurd. Same point we just

3312
01:54:35,899 --> 01:54:37,520
made about the other McDonald's thing.

3313
01:54:38,774 --> 01:54:41,734
Comrade Misty simply says, make America healthy again,

3314
01:54:41,734 --> 01:54:44,135
effing clown, s h I t. And this

3315
01:54:44,135 --> 01:54:46,055
is Donald Trump and Elon Musk. And I'm

3316
01:54:46,055 --> 01:54:47,654
just on a side point. Is it just

3317
01:54:47,654 --> 01:54:49,574
me or is almost everything I keep seeing

3318
01:54:49,574 --> 01:54:51,274
with RFK junior with this group?

3319
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,219
It's like he's like a hostage.

3320
01:54:53,520 --> 01:54:54,880
Look at his face on these things, on

3321
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:56,159
all of them. It looks like he's, like,

3322
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:58,399
there against his will almost. I mean, not

3323
01:54:58,399 --> 01:54:59,920
just the way his face looks. It seems

3324
01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:01,679
strange. But here they are on a plane,

3325
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:04,420
eating McDonald's. And RFK's face seems pained.

3326
01:55:05,045 --> 01:55:06,404
I don't know why Mike Johnson is there,

3327
01:55:06,404 --> 01:55:07,844
but the point is that they're all eating

3328
01:55:07,844 --> 01:55:10,164
McDonald's. And clearly, yeah, good. No one's saying

3329
01:55:10,164 --> 01:55:11,524
you can't go out and get bad food.

3330
01:55:11,524 --> 01:55:13,284
Okay? No one is saying that. But if

3331
01:55:13,284 --> 01:55:15,125
we're really pushing this idea that you're trying

3332
01:55:15,125 --> 01:55:17,045
to make America healthy again and lean I

3333
01:55:17,364 --> 01:55:17,864
personally,

3334
01:55:19,100 --> 01:55:20,659
I can eat plenty of bad things, and

3335
01:55:20,659 --> 01:55:22,619
I would never touch that stuff. When I

3336
01:55:22,619 --> 01:55:24,720
was younger, sure. But we have to realize

3337
01:55:24,779 --> 01:55:27,340
how shockingly bad these things are for you.

3338
01:55:27,340 --> 01:55:29,180
Whether it's the hormones, whether it's the seed

3339
01:55:29,180 --> 01:55:32,079
oils, whether there's god knows what else. Microplastics.

3340
01:55:32,460 --> 01:55:34,720
These things are really bad for you.

3341
01:55:35,255 --> 01:55:36,614
And look. My point is not that yeah.

3342
01:55:36,614 --> 01:55:37,975
We maybe make it better. Fine. How about

3343
01:55:37,975 --> 01:55:40,135
we just get rid of those things? Now

3344
01:55:40,135 --> 01:55:41,255
I'm not saying we shouldn't be allowed to

3345
01:55:41,255 --> 01:55:43,335
exist. Be there. But don't allow these things

3346
01:55:43,335 --> 01:55:45,255
to be leaned into by the government like

3347
01:55:45,255 --> 01:55:47,655
Trump during COVID 19 because there's a point

3348
01:55:47,655 --> 01:55:49,354
there about how that's being overlapped.

3349
01:55:50,710 --> 01:55:52,229
Let the market decide. Then, yeah, these things

3350
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:54,149
will still exist, obviously. But the point is

3351
01:55:54,149 --> 01:55:56,550
that what we're leaning into is constantly showing

3352
01:55:56,550 --> 01:55:57,369
the wrong direction.

3353
01:55:57,829 --> 01:55:59,270
I just want you to stand back and

3354
01:55:59,270 --> 01:56:00,710
think about whether it's a small point or

3355
01:56:00,710 --> 01:56:03,109
not, the reality of whether this is truly

3356
01:56:03,109 --> 01:56:05,189
direction. Now maybe RFK wants the right direction,

3357
01:56:05,189 --> 01:56:06,769
but do the rest of them? Is that

3358
01:56:06,769 --> 01:56:08,827
gonna be allowed to happen? We have yet

3359
01:56:08,827 --> 01:56:10,885
to see. Nothing has truly happened yet until

3360
01:56:10,885 --> 01:56:12,943
we see these positions start, and what it

3361
01:56:12,943 --> 01:56:15,001
really looks like, and whether RFK has given

3362
01:56:15,001 --> 01:56:17,059
some data, and they, you know, whatever the

3363
01:56:17,059 --> 01:56:19,117
the game is played. Just because Trump doubled

3364
01:56:19,117 --> 01:56:21,175
down on the HHS doesn't mean it has

3365
01:56:21,175 --> 01:56:23,130
happened yet. So let's wait and see. And

3366
01:56:23,130 --> 01:56:25,130
hold our judgment. And, really, the main point

3367
01:56:25,130 --> 01:56:26,489
at the end is that even those that

3368
01:56:26,489 --> 01:56:28,989
support this administration were past the election

3369
01:56:29,529 --> 01:56:32,510
fervor, the psychotic nature of these election processes.

3370
01:56:33,050 --> 01:56:34,029
Now they're there.

3371
01:56:34,795 --> 01:56:36,314
So this game where we act like we

3372
01:56:36,314 --> 01:56:38,074
have to hold back criticism because it might

3373
01:56:38,074 --> 01:56:40,074
make why is that still happening? Because you

3374
01:56:40,074 --> 01:56:41,354
know what it shows you? That they don't

3375
01:56:41,354 --> 01:56:42,414
care about the truth.

3376
01:56:42,795 --> 01:56:44,715
They're arguing that anything bad against him, we

3377
01:56:44,715 --> 01:56:46,154
have to hide or push back on because

3378
01:56:46,154 --> 01:56:48,335
it hurts hurts what? They're in power already.

3379
01:56:48,869 --> 01:56:50,710
Anybody on us who actually cares about the

3380
01:56:50,710 --> 01:56:51,909
good of the country and not just team

3381
01:56:51,909 --> 01:56:54,310
sport politics would be holding them to account

3382
01:56:54,310 --> 01:56:55,289
more than anybody.

3383
01:56:55,829 --> 01:56:57,429
Because that's how it's supposed to work. Even

3384
01:56:57,429 --> 01:56:58,789
the one the ones that you believe in

3385
01:56:58,789 --> 01:57:00,649
should be held to a higher standard.

3386
01:57:01,204 --> 01:57:03,364
So when you see them continually taking bad

3387
01:57:03,364 --> 01:57:05,765
steps, call it out, which a lot of

3388
01:57:05,765 --> 01:57:08,164
Republicans and conservatives are starting to do. Thank

3389
01:57:08,164 --> 01:57:08,664
god.

3390
01:57:09,125 --> 01:57:11,045
So we will follow-up more. Graveyard pirates said,

3391
01:57:11,045 --> 01:57:12,885
in my opinion, there is zero chance this

3392
01:57:12,885 --> 01:57:15,109
wasn't a planned photo op to inspire a

3393
01:57:15,109 --> 01:57:17,130
response, and they knew 100%

3394
01:57:17,590 --> 01:57:19,829
what that response would be. He says this

3395
01:57:19,829 --> 01:57:21,909
is nothing short of mocking their supporters. They

3396
01:57:21,909 --> 01:57:23,429
will be mocking you all the way to

3397
01:57:23,429 --> 01:57:25,449
the biomet digital ID CBDC.

3398
01:57:26,229 --> 01:57:28,710
I happen to agree. But please decide for

3399
01:57:28,710 --> 01:57:29,210
yourself.

3400
01:57:30,824 --> 01:57:32,345
So I think it's important that we can

3401
01:57:32,425 --> 01:57:32,925
we

3402
01:57:33,864 --> 01:57:35,625
take time to really try to break this

3403
01:57:35,625 --> 01:57:37,725
stuff down. And, you know, don't take my

3404
01:57:38,265 --> 01:57:39,564
opinions on this stuff.

3405
01:57:39,944 --> 01:57:41,385
I mean, I'm I'm basing it on what

3406
01:57:41,385 --> 01:57:42,845
I believe the research shows.

3407
01:57:43,289 --> 01:57:45,050
But the only I mean, the core point

3408
01:57:45,050 --> 01:57:46,809
is just that it's happening, that we know

3409
01:57:46,809 --> 01:57:47,309
that.

3410
01:57:47,849 --> 01:57:49,929
From East Palestine to Georgia to Bakersfield or

3411
01:57:49,929 --> 01:57:51,609
any number of other examples we've already talked

3412
01:57:51,609 --> 01:57:53,369
about. Richmond, I think, was one as well.

3413
01:57:53,369 --> 01:57:56,585
These things are provable biopsies and releases. Now

3414
01:57:56,585 --> 01:57:58,425
just a small amount that we already highlighted

3415
01:57:58,425 --> 01:57:59,324
is very dangerous.

3416
01:57:59,784 --> 01:58:01,225
The fact that they're not even willing to

3417
01:58:01,225 --> 01:58:03,305
acknowledge that, let alone test for it. And

3418
01:58:03,305 --> 01:58:05,465
again, actually going back to what Scott said

3419
01:58:05,465 --> 01:58:06,204
in the beginning.

3420
01:58:06,984 --> 01:58:10,444
Remember, this is now happening now in Georgia.

3421
01:58:10,649 --> 01:58:12,489
He's saying again, they're not just not they're

3422
01:58:12,489 --> 01:58:12,989
refusing

3423
01:58:13,529 --> 01:58:15,130
to test for what we know as a

3424
01:58:15,130 --> 01:58:15,630
fact

3425
01:58:16,170 --> 01:58:16,989
was released.

3426
01:58:17,529 --> 01:58:18,350
And really,

3427
01:58:19,050 --> 01:58:20,890
more of a provable example than anything I've

3428
01:58:20,890 --> 01:58:22,890
ever seen. More than Cebeso, more than East

3429
01:58:22,890 --> 01:58:25,469
Palestine, literal chlorine burned in a plant

3430
01:58:26,375 --> 01:58:28,534
with plastic I mean, everything about this is

3431
01:58:28,534 --> 01:58:30,314
a perfect storm for one of the most

3432
01:58:30,695 --> 01:58:32,775
potentially the worst we've seen. If but at

3433
01:58:32,775 --> 01:58:34,454
the very least, is still a problem that

3434
01:58:34,454 --> 01:58:36,295
should be addressed, and no one's even talking

3435
01:58:36,295 --> 01:58:38,534
about that. And now they're refusing to do

3436
01:58:38,534 --> 01:58:39,354
it yet again.

3437
01:58:40,050 --> 01:58:41,969
I think there's something very, very dark happening

3438
01:58:41,969 --> 01:58:43,250
here. But all I want you guys to

3439
01:58:43,250 --> 01:58:44,449
see is that this is a problem that

3440
01:58:44,449 --> 01:58:45,889
needs to be acknowledged so we can deal

3441
01:58:45,889 --> 01:58:47,409
with it. It's as simple as that. The

3442
01:58:47,409 --> 01:58:49,170
rest of it, you can decide for yourselves.

3443
01:58:49,170 --> 01:58:50,849
But don't jump to conclusions. We need to

3444
01:58:50,849 --> 01:58:52,369
wait for facts to prove this. But in

3445
01:58:52,369 --> 01:58:54,050
my opinion, right now, there's enough on the

3446
01:58:54,050 --> 01:58:54,550
table.

3447
01:58:54,864 --> 01:58:56,945
Aside from whatever larger conspiracy may be driving

3448
01:58:56,945 --> 01:58:58,225
what you think is happening or what is

3449
01:58:58,225 --> 01:58:58,965
driving it.

3450
01:58:59,505 --> 01:59:00,945
Right now, we can see enough that should

3451
01:59:00,945 --> 01:59:02,784
be these people should be in charge there

3452
01:59:02,784 --> 01:59:04,625
should be accountability right now for what they've

3453
01:59:04,625 --> 01:59:06,545
allowed to happen. The willful disregard of the

3454
01:59:06,545 --> 01:59:08,005
health in just these three locations.

3455
01:59:08,305 --> 01:59:10,005
That's enough right now to get somebody,

3456
01:59:10,550 --> 01:59:11,770
hold somebody accountable.

3457
01:59:12,630 --> 01:59:14,069
But typically, we tend to look for the

3458
01:59:14,069 --> 01:59:15,909
bigger story, which we should. But let's not

3459
01:59:15,909 --> 01:59:17,989
miss the forest for the trees. Right here,

3460
01:59:17,989 --> 01:59:19,130
this needs to be solved.

3461
01:59:19,590 --> 01:59:21,770
So hopefully, we can get this momentum going.

3462
01:59:21,829 --> 01:59:23,914
Reach out to people. Talk about it. Make

3463
01:59:23,914 --> 01:59:25,675
some clips. Tag me in it. I'll share

3464
01:59:25,675 --> 01:59:26,255
it myself.

3465
01:59:26,635 --> 01:59:28,414
So thank you for tuning in today, guys.

3466
01:59:28,795 --> 01:59:30,635
I appreciate your time and your support. We

3467
01:59:30,635 --> 01:59:32,795
need your support as always. There's more coming

3468
01:59:32,795 --> 01:59:34,155
our way with all that's coming on. I

3469
01:59:34,155 --> 01:59:35,755
believe I've got my first date here coming

3470
01:59:35,755 --> 01:59:36,735
up next month,

3471
01:59:37,039 --> 01:59:38,960
which I'm gonna, you know, like, lawsuit stuff

3472
01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:39,939
and it's gonna be

3473
01:59:40,399 --> 01:59:41,539
overwhelmingly frustrating.

3474
01:59:42,079 --> 01:59:44,000
But that aside, I mean, honestly, I I

3475
01:59:44,000 --> 01:59:45,119
hate even bringing that. The point is that

3476
01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:46,319
if you want if you believe in what

3477
01:59:46,319 --> 01:59:46,979
we're doing,

3478
01:59:47,439 --> 01:59:49,199
what I do on this show, what Derek

3479
01:59:49,199 --> 01:59:50,719
writes about, what I mean, even in the

3480
01:59:50,719 --> 01:59:52,725
in the connective points, Whitney and Derek and

3481
01:59:52,725 --> 01:59:54,085
everybody else in their own play. Well, if

3482
01:59:54,085 --> 01:59:55,524
you believe in what the IMA is doing,

3483
01:59:55,524 --> 01:59:56,965
if you believe in what we're trying to

3484
01:59:56,965 --> 01:59:57,625
do here,

3485
01:59:58,164 --> 01:59:59,305
support all of us.

3486
02:00:00,005 --> 02:00:02,485
Support t lab support. Well, I mean, support

3487
02:00:02,485 --> 02:00:04,485
the people that you think are are acting

3488
02:00:04,485 --> 02:00:06,250
from an honest place. Even if they make

3489
02:00:06,250 --> 02:00:08,189
mistakes, which we all do, if we're honest,

3490
02:00:08,649 --> 02:00:10,489
but support the people that you think are

3491
02:00:10,489 --> 02:00:12,250
actually trying to build the world that you

3492
02:00:12,250 --> 02:00:14,250
want, not just pointing at things and taking

3493
02:00:14,250 --> 02:00:16,409
different steps. So I think it's an important

3494
02:00:16,409 --> 02:00:18,329
time not to choose sides as much as

3495
02:00:18,329 --> 02:00:20,655
that's always happening, but to acknowledge what you

3496
02:00:20,655 --> 02:00:21,715
can prove and

3497
02:00:22,015 --> 02:00:23,534
support the people that seem to be acting

3498
02:00:23,534 --> 02:00:25,795
with good intention, not just acting an agenda

3499
02:00:26,335 --> 02:00:28,835
in the interest of the larger political game.

3500
02:00:28,895 --> 02:00:30,414
So thank you for tuning in. I love

3501
02:00:30,414 --> 02:00:32,835
you all. As always, question everything.

3502
02:00:33,420 --> 02:00:34,560
Come to your own conclusions.

3503
02:00:35,100 --> 02:00:35,840
Stay vigilant.