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Welcome to the last American vagabond. Joining me

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today for the time on the last American

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vagabond is, if I'm gonna say it correctly,

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you can correct me if I'm wrong, Etienne

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De La Boutique Squared.

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And we can get into what that name

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means and the information around the background there.

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And we're gonna be discussing today the liberty

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on the rocks event at Sedona, which I'm

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honored to be a part of. And we're

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gonna get into kind of the the broader

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conversation around volunteerism

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or or just, you know, libertarianism

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or in my mind more anarchism,

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agorism, the idea of, like,

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voluntary exchange between people. And a great conversation

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I just had with Larkin Rose, which is

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still fresh on my mind. The idea of

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the illusion of authority, the illusion of government,

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the illusion of voting, and why all these

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things are very important. And what I wanna

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get into is why, interestingly,

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more people today than ever seem to be

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interested in this, aware of this, asking questions

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about this. So it's a perfect time for

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the upcoming event. So thanks for being on

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the show. It's good to see you, brother.

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Hey. Good to see you. Good to be

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with your audience.

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Absolutely. And and I did did I say

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the name correctly? I I believe I did.

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It's Ian de la Bouisie. Bouisie. Okay. So

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I said wrong. Or Bouisie.

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I've heard people say it both ways. So

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Or bow tie, you know, say it incorrectly.

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I I get that a lot too. Yeah.

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I'm sure. But so why don't you go

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ahead and start with that since that's something,

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you know, that's a it's a got an

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interesting history around it and and the the

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the reason you chose that name.

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Sure. It's it's obviously a a nom de

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plume, a pen name, or a nom de

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guerre, a war name.

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And, and I and the original Etienne de

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Laboisie

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was a, French political philosopher. He wrote in

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the 16th century,

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and he was really one of the first

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to really kinda break down the tricks and

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the techniques that rulers used,

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not just to get obedience,

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but to get fealty and adoration and god

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save the queen and all hail the chief,

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and to get people to go along with

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something that isn't really in their interest.

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And with my book, Government, the Biggest Scam

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in History Exposed, I'm really doing his work

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in the modern age,

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and the book kinda breaks down like a

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playbook

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of how do you, you know, how do

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trick

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populations

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into going along with government

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Mhmm. Even though to this day it's not

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in their interest.

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Yeah. And and by the way, I really

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appreciate in your book in general that, you

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know, kind a lot of content we're discussing,

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he's

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covering his book, comes along with, you know,

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like a data backup of, like, the verification

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information which which I have saved in a

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special place. So I think it's a fantastic

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thing to include.

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So let let's start today with the, you

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know, a general update on what's gonna be

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happening at the conference so people catch that

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right in the beginning and let's get into

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kinda, like, what we're talking about, you know,

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what the conference is about and so on.

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So the liberty on the rocks. So what

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what is this conference about? What is it

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gonna be focused on? You know, very excited

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to be part of this because this is

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something that I

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I think my ideology, what I've kinda decided

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makes sense to me over the time of

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doing this. I've never really chosen to pick,

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like, names or ident you know, like, titles

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or or or, you know, I am this

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or identify as that or the libertarian or

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something else. But I've kind of come to

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realize that this

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is most clearly where my mind where it

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makes sense to me. You see what my

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point in saying that is this is a

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all this is new to me in a

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lot of ways as well. And so I'm

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really honored to be a part of this.

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So go ahead and let everybody know what

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this is and, you know, why it's important.

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Sure. I I'd like to take, like, a

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step back just for a second and kinda

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set the table. And then, you know, in

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my in my book, government, the biggest scam

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in history exposed, what I'm really doing is

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I'm making the case

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that government was never intended to protect life,

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liberty, and property. It's always it's best thought

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of as kind of a technique for robbing

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and controlling populations,

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and you can never really have a legitimate

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government.

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It's impossible to have a legitimate moral government

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because it's impossible for, you know, you can't

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delegate a right that you don't have yourself

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Mhmm. To a representative to represent you doing

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something you don't have the ability to do

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yourself.

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You can't be bound by a social contract

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that you never signed.

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My fiance and I can't vote to Rob

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Ryan because there's 2 of us and one

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of you. It doesn't matter if there's 3

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of us or 330,000,000

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of us. There's no magical additional person that

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makes something immoral and illogical, now moral and

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logical just because the mob wants to go

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along with it. And so it's really been

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the biggest scam in history. And a lot

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of the feedback that I would get from

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the book is, you know, wow. At the

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end, you do a great job of explaining

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how, you know, what I call intergenerational

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organized crime. It's the banks, kind of the

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banks on the top. They create money out

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of thin air using a technique called fractional

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reserve banking.

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And they've been buying up the media

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and the, you know, the in the kind

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of the Fortune 500 companies,

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you know, cartelizing

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them with this with this this this money

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that they're stealing the value out of everybody

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else's money. So so, like, that's kind of

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it in a nutshell of, like, what we're

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up against. And people, you know, people go,

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you do a great job of explaining that,

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but what are we gonna do? Mhmm. We've

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gotta have government. Who's gonna build the roads?

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And so Where is that question?

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I'm in front of the You know, I've

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I've got a I've got a new book

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coming out called, called Voluntarism,

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how the only ism

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fair for everyone

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leads to harmony, prosperity, and good karma for

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all. And

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by the only ism that is fair for

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everybody, if you really think about it, all

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the other political isms, whether it's socialism or

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communism or

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constitutional

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all of those isms have a ruling class

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that has rights

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that you don't have.

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And it's to, you know, steal from the

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people that earn and save and redistribute it

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as they see fit.

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They get to arrest people for victimless crimes.

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They have, you know, permissions that you don't.

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jail free cards that they can flash on

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the side of a crime that trumps every

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other law enforcement and say national security

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and and, and and hide and obfuscate,

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you know, whatever crimes that they're involved in.

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And so, so volunteerism

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is really the only political ism

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that's fair for everybody.

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Nobody gets the ring of power because there

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is no ring of power. Now for those

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in your audience that aren't familiar with volunteerism,

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it's really the idea that all relationships

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should be voluntary. Nobody has rights. The other

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people don't.

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Nobody has an exemption from morality,

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especially government.

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And so when you when you start with

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your political philosophy on on the moral high

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of non of of nonaggression

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principle, of the golden rule,

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of the fact that nobody has exemptions for

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morality,

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then you can't really have government. Now luckily

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luckily for humanity,

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one of the biggest secrets kept,

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you know, from the population is that the

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world is this self organizing system that produces

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spontaneous order, and everything that the government does

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would be done better, faster, and cheaper

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by the free market, by mutual aid societies,

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by nonprofits,

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by co ops, by insurance companies, by armed

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protective service providers like Detroit Threat Management

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that is doing a better job of protecting

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people in Detroit than the monopoly police,

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by arbitration providers, and by genuine charities.

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And, you know, some of this is is

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common sense. We just saw it in hurricane

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Helene where the caged navy and private helicopter

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owners were doing a better job of saving

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people,

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after the hurricane than FEMA with its multibillion

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dollar budget.

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And so, so what we're what we're saying

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is, hey. If we gave people back all

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of the money that they're being, you know,

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robbed and stolen of, and we were to

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quit giving this organized crime banking system the

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ability to create money out of thin air

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even though it's inflationary and even though it's

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stealing the value out of everybody else's money,

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then society would be a lot wealthier.

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There'd be more economic activity for everybody.

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Wages would be going up. The value of

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your dollar would buy more and more and

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more every year as productivity improvements

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and, innovations reduce the costs

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of either manufacturing or distributing

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the luxuries and necessities of life.

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And so, everyone would be better off. It

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doesn't mean that there would be utopia. There's

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still gonna be poverty. There's still gonna be,

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you know, the bad things, but it's gonna

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be better for everybody else.

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And that's the idea that you're never ever

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going to hear on the mainstream media. So

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we're having this conference in Sedona where we're

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bringing

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the, you know, world experts in, you know,

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economics and and,

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political philosophy and legal theory, etcetera, to be

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able to explain just how you can have

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everything that you want

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with more freedom and more choices

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than you have right now with this monopoly

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government that that I believe is illegitimate and

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and,

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and essentially a way of robbing society.

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Yeah. I mean, it's it's such a it's

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an let's go and start with that since,

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you know, the idea that it's such a

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difficult thing in most contexts and still for

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most people, I would argue to kind of

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wrap their mind around how this would take

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place or how this would make sense. And

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that's why I laughed about that. The is

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the common joke about, you know, who's gonna

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build the roads? And it's the same argument

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that in once you know why I think

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that's actually an important starting point for most

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people is once you can get past that

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barrier of recognizing

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that it's still the same people, that the

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government overarching, dominating, and pointing in directions doesn't

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change the fact that we're still the ones

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that would do it. You know? And I

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do think that kind of opens people's minds,

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but it's always kind of that block to

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thinking that we need them to

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organize and direct and to maintain. And some

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would still hold to that and say that,

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well, what happens without that? But we'll come

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to that in a second. So the conference,

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again, I just wanna make sure people see

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that at the gate because it's it's it's

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something I think is important for the the

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growing understanding of what's going on in the

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conversation today and whatever you wanna call them,

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the normies or the, like, average people that

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don't usually ask these questions. But so you

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mentioned, I wanted to ask you on a

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quick side note about volunteerism because this is

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something that I was looking at. So there

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there's different

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spellings of that. And there's one with a

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y, there's one without it, and there's one

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that's just like volunteerism. Is there any reason

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those are different? Or because I know, like,

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one of them just simply means, like, volunteering

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and having that as like a mindset. But

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there is there a difference between, say, volunteerism

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and volunteerism? Or are they just a different

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term used for the same thing? I think

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it's, it's,

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different horses for different courses. Sometimes you might

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use voluntary,

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voluntary

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ism,

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if you're talking about volunteering,

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but the political philosophy voluntary

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ism

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generally has a y and an ISM, and

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that's kind of the core,

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function that that, you know, has this idea

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that, you know, that that all relationships must

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be voluntary, but also is kind of assumed

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with the idea that,

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that the world is this self organizing system

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and that the free market would provide

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all of the if you really think about

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what government does is it provide mostly of

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what it does is provide services.

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Whether that service is delivering mail or whether

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that service is running a train system or

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whether that service is

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air traffic control or whether that service is,

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you know,

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protecting the environment.

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And all of these things, not just could

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be done by the free market, but actually

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are being done. Right. And so a little

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bit of what we're doing at the conference

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is we're just we're we're highlighting and emphasizing

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that there are all of these,

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you know, examples

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of volunteerism

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doing a better job

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of the things people want government to do

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right now,

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right this very second Mhmm. Than are being

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done by government.

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And and to your point, like you said

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before, even in that same dynamic, those are

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still average people that would be able to

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do those jobs without the government kind of

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dictating the dart direction. So it's still kinda

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the same point. But so in Yeah. Yeah.

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Yeah. The the people that are built the

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government isn't building the roads. The government is

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hiring people to build the roads. And so

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the

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so, you know, you could eliminate the, the

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the the the,

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the middleman and you would still have high

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quality roads. Where the, you know, there there

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there's no reason why the government has to

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do these things other than the government

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taught you that they had to do these

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things in their mandatory government school that they

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made you attend Right. So they could teach

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you that they're indispensable.

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Right. Right. With their Prussian system and the

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lining up and the raising your hands. I

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mean, you do a great job explaining that.

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It's just it's when you really look at

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it that way, it's it's almost eerie. Like,

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I've had that conversation kind of casually before

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about, like, the pledge of allegiance. And you

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bring it up in a con like, isn't

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that weird? And people almost like aghast that

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you would say that, but then they think

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about it and they're like, yeah. That is

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pretty weird. So we stand up and pledge

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lead. You know, it's it's funny. Well, I

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know you know, Ryan, I don't wanna give

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the book away or anything like that, but

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the secret is is that they're using unethically

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manipulative

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techniques that what I would you know, they're

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they're, you know, stone cold

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cult indoctrination techniques. They're indoctrinating

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the belief in government into the population as

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a religion.

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Now they're not calling it a religion, but

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they're using the the same playbook of unethically

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manipulative techniques.

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You know, you're gonna they're gonna force you

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to you know, the the flag is the

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artificially indoctrinated holy symbol. They're going to put

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you into the church school where the teacher,

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the priest

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is going to teach you about the, you

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know, the, the common prayer of the pledge

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of allegiance. They're gonna teach you about the

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hymns of the national anthem and the Star

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Spangled Banner. And they're gonna take you to

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Mecca, Washington DC,

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generally in middle school. Yeah. And they're gonna

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show you they're gonna take you into the

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cathedral of the capital

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that looks like the Vatican for a reason

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where everything is oversized, so you smell feel

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small and insignificant.

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And they're gonna take you into the temples,

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and they're gonna show you the deities of

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Lincoln and Jefferson, and it's going to be

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very hushed.

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And it's going to be very reverent.

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And then the media is gonna come along,

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and they're going to run some more unethically

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manipulative techniques where they're going to to product

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place the flag at moments of high positive

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emotion.

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They're gonna put the flag on NBA backboards,

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so you subconsciously

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associate the exhilaration of the goal with the

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flag. They're gonna put them on NFL helmets.

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They're gonna do flag worship events

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at the sporting events so that you associate.

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It's called it's a technique called anchoring. They're

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gonna they're gonna weave the flag in the

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moments of high positive emotion in popular movies

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and in television shows

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so that when the movie comes to the

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to the emotional apex,

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Rocky defeating his opponent and wrapping himself in

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the American flag Right. You're going to subconsciously

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begin to associate

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that that that flag with these good things

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because the government has been

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tricking you. They've been running game on the

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population.

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And so what I do in the book

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is I break it all down so people

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can understand

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how they how the magician is pulling the

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trick

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because, you know, I I I was a

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cub scout. I was a boy scout. They

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had me hook, line, and sinker until somebody

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explained it to me. And then when I

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when I when I understood that, hey. Wait.

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They're running these unethically manipulative,

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you know, cult indoctrination techniques on the population

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with the cub scouts, the boy scouts, the

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Explorers, the JROTC, the ROTC,

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the Marine Corps running young Marines and school

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programs, and literally have the Marines run high

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schools, where the entire curriculum is the Marine

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Corps. And so when once you understand that

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they're doing this, then you're like, I'm out.

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Like, I'm not I'm not falling for that.

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Now I under like, once you see it,

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you can't unsee it, and nobody likes to

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be a chump.

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Yeah. Right. I mean, I I personal experience,

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I think when I was in high school,

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not not, like, necessarily running the school, but

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I think we had a marine corps army

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that would come, I mean, almost every month

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and do their tests in the middle of

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the square and, you know, it's very, very

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much in your face.

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Before I move past the the titles or

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the the names in general, I wanted to

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ask you for the, you know, for people

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to understand in general, myself included. So what

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what would you see as the difference or

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the overlap between volunteerism,

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libertarianism,

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agorism, anarchy, and are are they all just

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kind of in the similar ballpark? How how

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do you look at it? So I, you

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know, I put libertarianism

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as the big umbrella term. Mhmm. And under

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libertarianism,

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which is kind of a big umbrella, you've

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got, you know, people that are monarchists.

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They believe in having a a very minimal

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government that only protects life, liberty, and property.

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And so so they think that the government

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should rob people

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at gunpoint to provide courts and national defense

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and things of that nature. Okay?

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But the government shouldn't do all these other

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things. And so, therefore, you know, great deal

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of personal and economic freedom, but they do

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believe in having a

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a a government or a constitution or something

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like that.

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But under that, that umbrella term also falls,

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you know, libertarians

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that may or may not believe in having

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a government,

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and voluntarists,

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anarcho capitalists,

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anarchists, peaceful anarchists.

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And all anarchy means

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is no rulers. It doesn't mean no rules.

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And one of the other things I break

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down in government, the biggest scam in history,

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is how the dictionary has actually been changed

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over time

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to change the word for no rulers to

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mean chaos and dystopia.

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Right. Because the rulers don't want the population

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to know there's an option on the menu

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called no rulers.

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Because if it was between rulers

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and no rulers, people would probably choose no

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rulers.

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So they've used their media system and control

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of the dictionary

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to change the word over time. And you

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can see the 18/27

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definition from the Webster's dictionary, and you can

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compare it to the, you know, the modern

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version from the Merriam Webster's dictionary just to

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understand what I'm talking about, how it's been

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changed to be chaos and dystopia.

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And then I break down who owns the

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dictionary, and it's

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the Safra banking family owns both the encyclopedia

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and the dictionary. So the bankers top that

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make up money out of thin air are

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buying

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the the encyclopedia

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and the dictionary.

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And the guy that sits on the editorial,

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review board for

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Encyclopedia Britannica and Merriam Webster's dictionary

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is a past president of the Council on

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Foreign Relations. Of course. And so they're controlling

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the information that society receives, whether it's editing

534
00:18:58,440 --> 00:18:59,980
the dictionary or monopolizing

535
00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:01,019
the media

536
00:19:01,505 --> 00:19:03,265
so that you only get, you know, to

537
00:19:03,265 --> 00:19:04,565
see certain information,

538
00:19:05,184 --> 00:19:05,684
censoring,

539
00:19:06,384 --> 00:19:09,265
content creators like us algorithmically on the DARPA

540
00:19:09,265 --> 00:19:09,765
Internet.

541
00:19:10,785 --> 00:19:13,184
And that control of perception, that really is

542
00:19:13,184 --> 00:19:14,325
the most important,

543
00:19:15,289 --> 00:19:16,509
most powerful weapon,

544
00:19:17,289 --> 00:19:19,849
that this organized crime system has. And that's

545
00:19:19,849 --> 00:19:22,809
why most people have never ever, ever, in

546
00:19:22,809 --> 00:19:23,549
many cases,

547
00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:26,890
heard the alternative that you don't really need

548
00:19:26,890 --> 00:19:29,210
government. They've never, you know, heard that, oh,

549
00:19:29,210 --> 00:19:30,029
there's there's

550
00:19:30,575 --> 00:19:31,075
well

551
00:19:31,454 --> 00:19:32,674
known, respected,

552
00:19:33,134 --> 00:19:35,795
you know, economists and and politicalist,

553
00:19:37,694 --> 00:19:38,194
philosophers

554
00:19:38,494 --> 00:19:41,375
and and academics and professors that have already

555
00:19:41,375 --> 00:19:43,775
figured out how you could have everything the

556
00:19:43,775 --> 00:19:45,394
government does without the government,

557
00:19:46,630 --> 00:19:48,169
with people being wealthier

558
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:49,929
and with a lot less,

559
00:19:51,269 --> 00:19:51,990
a lot less,

560
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:54,869
strife in society. Because you wouldn't have to

561
00:19:54,869 --> 00:19:56,169
be fighting over

562
00:19:56,470 --> 00:19:58,549
the school board as as one example. Like,

563
00:19:58,549 --> 00:20:00,654
there there wouldn't be this, you know, this

564
00:20:00,654 --> 00:20:01,095
this,

565
00:20:01,535 --> 00:20:04,335
fight to who who controls the the school

566
00:20:04,335 --> 00:20:06,434
board to, you know, to impose

567
00:20:07,055 --> 00:20:07,555
your,

568
00:20:08,174 --> 00:20:09,234
your worldview

569
00:20:09,615 --> 00:20:11,634
on that, whether that be critical race,

570
00:20:12,575 --> 00:20:13,795
critical race theory

571
00:20:14,339 --> 00:20:14,740
or,

572
00:20:15,140 --> 00:20:18,500
transgender studies or whatever it is because you

573
00:20:18,500 --> 00:20:21,220
would just buy whatever education that you wanted

574
00:20:21,220 --> 00:20:23,059
for your kids, and you'd have more than

575
00:20:23,059 --> 00:20:24,819
enough, you know, money to do that if

576
00:20:24,819 --> 00:20:27,480
the government wasn't stealing 50% of your income.

577
00:20:27,664 --> 00:20:29,105
And then there wouldn't have to be a

578
00:20:29,105 --> 00:20:31,184
fight over the school board because you could

579
00:20:31,184 --> 00:20:34,164
send your kid to Montessori school, to Waldorf

580
00:20:34,224 --> 00:20:36,484
school. You can homeschool your kid.

581
00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:38,865
You know, you'd have all of these different

582
00:20:38,865 --> 00:20:39,365
options

583
00:20:39,744 --> 00:20:42,005
where you can get exactly what you want.

584
00:20:42,340 --> 00:20:45,160
You don't have to, you know, fight politically

585
00:20:45,299 --> 00:20:47,320
to do so, so there'd be more harmony

586
00:20:47,940 --> 00:20:50,500
as well. Yeah. Yeah. Sure sounds like chaos,

587
00:20:50,500 --> 00:20:52,500
doesn't it? It's just it's always so insulting.

588
00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:54,019
I make this point often where I simply

589
00:20:54,019 --> 00:20:56,765
say that anarchism is the only ideology that

590
00:20:56,765 --> 00:20:58,365
has no room for the rule, and, obviously,

591
00:20:58,365 --> 00:20:59,805
wonder why they don't wanna talk about it.

592
00:20:59,805 --> 00:21:01,565
You know, it's it's such a important point

593
00:21:01,565 --> 00:21:04,045
to make about the, you know, other direction

594
00:21:04,045 --> 00:21:05,244
that we could be going. And this is

595
00:21:05,244 --> 00:21:06,845
why let let's, you know, bring this into

596
00:21:06,845 --> 00:21:08,085
the one of the earlier points I wanted

597
00:21:08,085 --> 00:21:10,150
to get into is that I I genuinely

598
00:21:10,289 --> 00:21:11,970
think that right now more than ever, and

599
00:21:11,970 --> 00:21:13,329
I want your thoughts on maybe why this

600
00:21:13,329 --> 00:21:14,869
is, that I see more people,

601
00:21:15,970 --> 00:21:18,450
whether they're at least open to hearing this

602
00:21:18,450 --> 00:21:20,450
idea out. Right? Like and and maybe you

603
00:21:20,450 --> 00:21:21,809
tell me if you see anything different, but

604
00:21:21,809 --> 00:21:23,329
I'm seeing more people interested in the 2

605
00:21:23,329 --> 00:21:25,345
party illusion. More people interested in the idea

606
00:21:25,345 --> 00:21:26,704
that maybe voting is not what it appears

607
00:21:26,704 --> 00:21:28,224
to be or that our governments are fraudulent,

608
00:21:28,224 --> 00:21:29,585
or to the core of the point that

609
00:21:29,585 --> 00:21:32,144
government shouldn't exist at all. And never before

610
00:21:32,144 --> 00:21:34,224
have I seen this much interest or this

611
00:21:34,224 --> 00:21:34,724
much

612
00:21:35,025 --> 00:21:36,944
aggressive pushback from what I think is sort

613
00:21:36,944 --> 00:21:39,025
of a dying power structure because of that.

614
00:21:39,025 --> 00:21:40,820
So is that what you're seeing? And if

615
00:21:40,820 --> 00:21:42,100
so, why why is that happening in your

616
00:21:42,100 --> 00:21:43,240
mind in in your opinion?

617
00:21:44,180 --> 00:21:46,259
I'm seeing the exact same thing. I'm seeing

618
00:21:46,259 --> 00:21:48,019
more and more people being open to it.

619
00:21:48,019 --> 00:21:49,859
And I think that the reason is is

620
00:21:49,859 --> 00:21:52,500
that the Internet and information age has made

621
00:21:52,500 --> 00:21:55,414
the corruption so much more visible to the

622
00:21:55,414 --> 00:21:56,255
average person

623
00:21:56,695 --> 00:21:58,375
Mhmm. To where you know, whether or not

624
00:21:58,375 --> 00:21:59,035
you believe

625
00:21:59,494 --> 00:22:01,255
that we need to have a government, you

626
00:22:01,255 --> 00:22:03,015
know, like, you may be you may think

627
00:22:03,015 --> 00:22:04,295
that, you know, if we could just get

628
00:22:04,295 --> 00:22:05,275
your our people

629
00:22:05,839 --> 00:22:06,500
in, you know,

630
00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:08,660
in power, then they'd fix everything.

631
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,200
But most people, even if they hold that

632
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,099
worldview of monarchism or constitutional republicanism,

633
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,839
almost everybody agrees that the the government that

634
00:22:17,839 --> 00:22:20,740
we have in Washington DC is being run

635
00:22:20,855 --> 00:22:22,234
as a criminal enterprise

636
00:22:22,535 --> 00:22:24,075
Mhmm. And is stealing

637
00:22:24,775 --> 00:22:26,855
money out the back door in the, you

638
00:22:26,855 --> 00:22:28,615
know, in the form of weapon systems that

639
00:22:28,615 --> 00:22:29,515
we don't need

640
00:22:29,815 --> 00:22:31,974
to fight wars, you know, based on lies

641
00:22:31,974 --> 00:22:35,650
and manufactured intelligence. It's it's bank bailouts. It's

642
00:22:35,650 --> 00:22:39,509
mandatory vaccines for the pharmaceutical companies. It's mandatory

643
00:22:39,730 --> 00:22:42,690
subsidies for the ethanol industry. It's you know,

644
00:22:42,690 --> 00:22:44,049
I can just go on and on and

645
00:22:44,049 --> 00:22:47,444
on. Genocide in real time? Funding genocide in

646
00:22:47,585 --> 00:22:49,585
in in Gaza, you know, funding things that

647
00:22:49,585 --> 00:22:51,984
people don't want. Yeah. And so now, you

648
00:22:51,984 --> 00:22:53,664
know, they used to, you know, they used

649
00:22:53,664 --> 00:22:55,664
to have kind of like an iron grip

650
00:22:55,664 --> 00:22:58,384
over the way that's that information moved through

651
00:22:58,384 --> 00:22:58,884
society.

652
00:22:59,349 --> 00:23:01,750
But really, the the Internet in some ways,

653
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:03,829
you know, is is this is this classic

654
00:23:03,829 --> 00:23:06,149
double edged sword for them where in some

655
00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:08,950
ways, it's helping them censor more information. But

656
00:23:08,950 --> 00:23:10,809
at the same time, the intelligentsia,

657
00:23:11,954 --> 00:23:14,275
the the intelligent people that just, you know,

658
00:23:14,275 --> 00:23:16,835
that that are that understand and are paying

659
00:23:16,835 --> 00:23:19,954
attention to what's going on, they're figuring out

660
00:23:19,954 --> 00:23:22,434
who robbed the bank. And they're getting saddled

661
00:23:22,434 --> 00:23:24,194
up. There's you know, the posse is kinda

662
00:23:24,194 --> 00:23:27,059
starting to form loosely. And people are saying,

663
00:23:27,059 --> 00:23:29,460
hey, man. This is organized crime. This is

664
00:23:29,539 --> 00:23:31,240
they're stealing my money,

665
00:23:31,700 --> 00:23:32,919
and they're getting ticked.

666
00:23:33,299 --> 00:23:34,819
Right. And then to a degree, it's out

667
00:23:34,819 --> 00:23:36,259
in the open in a way that has

668
00:23:36,259 --> 00:23:37,880
never ever been before.

669
00:23:38,275 --> 00:23:39,714
Which makes me really happy to see. And

670
00:23:39,714 --> 00:23:40,674
I think a lot of things are in

671
00:23:40,674 --> 00:23:42,275
that kind of realm right now. And, I

672
00:23:42,275 --> 00:23:43,875
mean, really just at a larger kind of

673
00:23:43,875 --> 00:23:45,554
higher elevation view, I see it, like, whether

674
00:23:45,554 --> 00:23:47,315
it's the COVID nineteen illusion or any number

675
00:23:47,315 --> 00:23:48,994
of agendas in between, what's going on in

676
00:23:48,994 --> 00:23:50,994
foreign policy. It's just sort of falling apart

677
00:23:50,994 --> 00:23:52,259
in front of us, which is, you know,

678
00:23:52,259 --> 00:23:54,420
there's obviously downsides. People are hurt being hurt.

679
00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:56,339
There's chaos in some ways, but I think

680
00:23:56,339 --> 00:23:58,500
it's a positive change, you know? And so

681
00:23:58,500 --> 00:24:00,099
so in the context of the voting and

682
00:24:00,099 --> 00:24:01,940
2 party illusion dynamic or even just, like,

683
00:24:01,940 --> 00:24:03,779
in the context of the upcoming selection or

684
00:24:03,779 --> 00:24:06,204
however you view that, Do do you think

685
00:24:06,365 --> 00:24:08,444
like like, I see this republican pushback the

686
00:24:08,444 --> 00:24:09,404
same way I did

687
00:24:09,724 --> 00:24:11,565
again, to be clear, my audience knows my

688
00:24:11,565 --> 00:24:13,085
opinion as the I see that as the

689
00:24:13,085 --> 00:24:15,804
team sport politics. Republicans, democrats, then there's the

690
00:24:15,804 --> 00:24:17,884
conservative and liberals that are maybe leaning towards

691
00:24:17,884 --> 00:24:19,210
one side or the other. But I see

692
00:24:19,210 --> 00:24:20,330
more of them are the ones that are

693
00:24:20,330 --> 00:24:22,090
more and more becoming open to this, which

694
00:24:22,090 --> 00:24:23,690
is why I see the teams where politics

695
00:24:23,690 --> 00:24:25,710
sort of just doubling down in its intensity.

696
00:24:25,850 --> 00:24:27,450
But I see that from the Republican side

697
00:24:27,450 --> 00:24:29,130
right now like I did during COVID 19

698
00:24:29,130 --> 00:24:31,150
as they really, you know, push back

699
00:24:31,634 --> 00:24:33,714
in in a way that they're like, or

700
00:24:33,714 --> 00:24:35,634
rather the reverse where democrats were more so

701
00:24:35,634 --> 00:24:36,994
calling this out. Or no. I'm sorry. I'm

702
00:24:36,994 --> 00:24:38,434
I'm getting confused on the agenda. So that

703
00:24:38,434 --> 00:24:41,075
the republicans are highlighting the problem around this.

704
00:24:41,075 --> 00:24:42,775
But right now, we have them ultimately

705
00:24:43,394 --> 00:24:45,380
beginning to see these problems, but they're getting

706
00:24:45,380 --> 00:24:46,899
kind of co opted by what I see

707
00:24:46,899 --> 00:24:48,119
as this growing technocracy,

708
00:24:48,579 --> 00:24:50,099
this growing effort. Like, so how do you

709
00:24:50,099 --> 00:24:51,940
see that playing into this? Is that just

710
00:24:51,940 --> 00:24:53,859
the usual dynamic of politics, or do you

711
00:24:53,859 --> 00:24:55,059
think this is sort of, like, I was

712
00:24:55,059 --> 00:24:57,380
saying this kind of dying reaction from something

713
00:24:57,380 --> 00:24:59,404
trying to, you know, last gasp, trying to

714
00:24:59,404 --> 00:25:01,005
push us back into the system? And and

715
00:25:01,005 --> 00:25:02,285
I guess one last point is where do

716
00:25:02,285 --> 00:25:04,045
you kinda see that going afterward, you know,

717
00:25:04,045 --> 00:25:05,964
the election dynamic just before we get into

718
00:25:05,964 --> 00:25:08,144
everything else? I see more and more people

719
00:25:08,365 --> 00:25:08,865
abandoning

720
00:25:09,244 --> 00:25:10,945
the fake left right paradigm

721
00:25:11,690 --> 00:25:14,410
and not being, you know so so, you

722
00:25:14,410 --> 00:25:16,410
know, my example earlier was the, you know,

723
00:25:16,410 --> 00:25:19,369
the magician can only fool you until you

724
00:25:19,369 --> 00:25:22,170
understand how he's doing the trick. And once

725
00:25:22,170 --> 00:25:25,289
you understand that he's dividing and conquering the

726
00:25:25,289 --> 00:25:25,789
population

727
00:25:26,565 --> 00:25:29,784
by essentially shunting them into the 2

728
00:25:30,325 --> 00:25:30,825
largest,

729
00:25:31,684 --> 00:25:32,904
you know, demographic

730
00:25:33,524 --> 00:25:36,244
groups that could be made to oppose each

731
00:25:36,244 --> 00:25:38,664
other, you know, essentially collectivists

732
00:25:39,259 --> 00:25:41,740
and and, you know, freedom you know, like,

733
00:25:41,740 --> 00:25:43,759
most Republicans, they're they're

734
00:25:44,059 --> 00:25:46,460
they're they're for pro freedom. They're for free

735
00:25:46,460 --> 00:25:49,019
markets. They're for, you know, good things. But

736
00:25:49,019 --> 00:25:51,519
at the top, the leadership of the Republican

737
00:25:51,579 --> 00:25:52,079
party

738
00:25:52,515 --> 00:25:55,315
has been co opted, and and they're not

739
00:25:55,315 --> 00:25:58,434
able to produce any policies that lead to

740
00:25:58,434 --> 00:25:59,255
real freedom.

741
00:25:59,795 --> 00:26:02,835
And they're what to the contrary, they're, you

742
00:26:02,835 --> 00:26:04,775
know, at the they're essentially

743
00:26:05,234 --> 00:26:06,934
the exact same policies

744
00:26:07,570 --> 00:26:08,390
as the Democrats

745
00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:11,990
on the issues that matter to the organized

746
00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:13,269
crime banking system.

747
00:26:13,570 --> 00:26:16,549
And so the Republicans and Democrats, they're lockstep

748
00:26:16,930 --> 00:26:19,269
in favor of fractional reserve banking.

749
00:26:19,570 --> 00:26:22,710
They're lockstep in favor of 1,000,000,000,000 of dollars

750
00:26:22,769 --> 00:26:23,269
handed

751
00:26:23,625 --> 00:26:26,105
to private banks and private companies through the

752
00:26:26,105 --> 00:26:28,105
TARP and the TALF and the bailouts of

753
00:26:28,105 --> 00:26:29,884
Wall Street. They were lockstep,

754
00:26:30,585 --> 00:26:31,144
you know,

755
00:26:31,545 --> 00:26:33,724
for the COVID. They were lockstep

756
00:26:34,025 --> 00:26:35,884
for forcing this untested,

757
00:26:36,184 --> 00:26:38,525
quote, unquote, vaccine on the population.

758
00:26:39,250 --> 00:26:42,230
And they're just arguing over kinda football issues

759
00:26:42,690 --> 00:26:45,589
of gay marriage or abortion that are important,

760
00:26:45,809 --> 00:26:49,349
but they're not as important as the real

761
00:26:49,490 --> 00:26:51,569
issues that would really free us and give

762
00:26:51,569 --> 00:26:54,130
us more disposable income and limit government and

763
00:26:54,130 --> 00:26:55,005
things like that.

764
00:26:55,484 --> 00:26:57,565
And and I also see in it the

765
00:26:57,565 --> 00:26:59,244
overlap, like, with my point I've made around,

766
00:26:59,244 --> 00:27:00,845
like, the save ID or rather the the

767
00:27:00,845 --> 00:27:03,085
save act and the kind of Trojan horse

768
00:27:03,085 --> 00:27:04,924
for digital ID is I see that that's

769
00:27:04,924 --> 00:27:06,204
what that that's why that I was saying

770
00:27:06,204 --> 00:27:07,644
before, and, you know, is always saying is

771
00:27:07,644 --> 00:27:10,259
I think that the Republican party, rather specifically

772
00:27:10,259 --> 00:27:12,820
conservatives, are are uncomfortable with this. Whether it's

773
00:27:12,820 --> 00:27:15,299
Trump's blind support for Israel or the idea

774
00:27:15,299 --> 00:27:16,980
that they like you said, they really I

775
00:27:17,059 --> 00:27:18,580
that's why they sort of try to pacify

776
00:27:18,580 --> 00:27:20,420
them more than anybody during the COVID 19

777
00:27:20,420 --> 00:27:22,660
conversation is they are the constitutional. They are

778
00:27:22,660 --> 00:27:24,785
the ones with, you know, gun owning militia.

779
00:27:24,785 --> 00:27:26,464
Like, that that's more so that party in

780
00:27:26,464 --> 00:27:28,644
this in the larger context. And right now,

781
00:27:28,704 --> 00:27:30,805
I think they're starting to recognize that they,

782
00:27:31,265 --> 00:27:31,744
they,

783
00:27:32,065 --> 00:27:34,144
this they recognize this opening, but that's why

784
00:27:34,144 --> 00:27:36,224
I think the Republican party is definitely trying

785
00:27:36,224 --> 00:27:38,580
to kind of wrap them in using illusory

786
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,600
at legislation or things that they present as

787
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,440
we're fighting for freedom, but right under the

788
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,460
surface, it's in fact doing the exact opposite.

789
00:27:45,519 --> 00:27:47,119
But I I I'm that's why I kinda

790
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,480
think more people are starting to wake up

791
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,580
from this, which is definitely a positive thing.

792
00:27:51,034 --> 00:27:52,714
Do do you think the current system as

793
00:27:52,714 --> 00:27:54,095
it is is failing,

794
00:27:54,634 --> 00:27:55,835
or or is this some kind of a

795
00:27:55,914 --> 00:27:57,595
you know, is there something else driving these

796
00:27:57,595 --> 00:27:59,275
actions? Because I kinda read it as sort

797
00:27:59,275 --> 00:28:01,275
of that there is a desperation behind this,

798
00:28:01,275 --> 00:28:03,210
but I wanted your feeling on it. Why

799
00:28:03,210 --> 00:28:05,049
do you think this is so happening? And

800
00:28:05,049 --> 00:28:06,730
do you think the sort of, like, World

801
00:28:06,730 --> 00:28:09,210
Economic Forum technocratic push is kinda like a

802
00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:11,210
last effort to get past that to what's

803
00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:12,730
no longer a problem anymore for the power

804
00:28:12,730 --> 00:28:13,230
structure?

805
00:28:14,250 --> 00:28:15,950
So it's it's failing

806
00:28:16,294 --> 00:28:18,154
at the same time that it's succeeding.

807
00:28:18,615 --> 00:28:20,054
And so, you know, I mean, it it

808
00:28:20,134 --> 00:28:22,615
and I think it will continue to succeed

809
00:28:22,615 --> 00:28:24,394
until it ultimately fails.

810
00:28:24,934 --> 00:28:27,734
And that ultimate failure, I I believe, is

811
00:28:27,734 --> 00:28:30,075
that that this I this this knowledge

812
00:28:30,420 --> 00:28:32,740
that that government has been a trick. It's

813
00:28:32,740 --> 00:28:35,160
always illegitimate. It's always immoral.

814
00:28:36,019 --> 00:28:38,019
We don't really need it. I have a

815
00:28:38,019 --> 00:28:39,480
feeling that that idea

816
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:43,164
is going to go viral globally. Yeah. And

817
00:28:43,164 --> 00:28:45,164
I think, like, you know, you can only

818
00:28:45,164 --> 00:28:47,325
you can only you can only fool people

819
00:28:47,325 --> 00:28:49,404
until they understand the trick, and then they're

820
00:28:49,404 --> 00:28:51,724
they're kinda out. And so I just don't

821
00:28:51,724 --> 00:28:53,884
think that you can hide that in the

822
00:28:53,884 --> 00:28:55,105
information age.

823
00:28:55,529 --> 00:28:57,710
And so I think that that that idea

824
00:28:57,769 --> 00:29:00,090
is is been the proverbial, you know, beach

825
00:29:00,090 --> 00:29:02,410
ball underwater that they've been trying to hold,

826
00:29:02,410 --> 00:29:04,410
you know, to to kinda, you know, keep

827
00:29:04,410 --> 00:29:05,470
people away

828
00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:09,575
from peaceful anarchy, keep people away from, you

829
00:29:09,575 --> 00:29:12,634
know, exploring the ideas of stateless society.

830
00:29:13,734 --> 00:29:15,755
But as more and more people engaged

831
00:29:16,134 --> 00:29:17,894
engaged with that, I call it the one

832
00:29:17,894 --> 00:29:20,134
way revolution. It's only going in one direction.

833
00:29:20,134 --> 00:29:22,875
Like, so so once you realize that government

834
00:29:22,934 --> 00:29:24,154
has been a trick

835
00:29:24,609 --> 00:29:25,429
and it's illegitimate,

836
00:29:25,970 --> 00:29:27,970
and it's it's a dumb idea, and it

837
00:29:27,970 --> 00:29:30,069
doesn't really work, it looks good on paper.

838
00:29:30,210 --> 00:29:31,649
You know? But, like, once you kind of

839
00:29:31,730 --> 00:29:34,609
you you you get that that that idea,

840
00:29:34,609 --> 00:29:37,009
you're out, and you're not going to fall

841
00:29:37,009 --> 00:29:39,154
for the fake left right paradigm. You're not

842
00:29:39,154 --> 00:29:41,815
going to vote for Trump or Kamala or

843
00:29:42,194 --> 00:29:45,315
Jill Stein or anybody else. You're, you know,

844
00:29:45,315 --> 00:29:46,934
you're out. You're now

845
00:29:47,394 --> 00:29:48,855
not in their crooked,

846
00:29:49,315 --> 00:29:50,934
rigged poker game anymore.

847
00:29:51,509 --> 00:29:54,250
And so that's that's the one way revolution

848
00:29:54,309 --> 00:29:56,630
that I see happening everywhere as more and

849
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:57,690
more and more people

850
00:29:58,150 --> 00:29:58,650
realize

851
00:29:59,029 --> 00:30:00,650
the basics of the scam

852
00:30:00,950 --> 00:30:03,509
and remove themselves from from playing in the

853
00:30:03,509 --> 00:30:06,005
rigged poker game. Yeah. Absolutely, man. I mean,

854
00:30:06,005 --> 00:30:07,924
I kinda feel like like it's happening. You

855
00:30:07,924 --> 00:30:09,845
know? Like, maybe not viral, but I think

856
00:30:09,845 --> 00:30:11,365
that's kinda what we're sensing is there is

857
00:30:11,365 --> 00:30:13,285
this growing momentum growing. And I think that

858
00:30:13,285 --> 00:30:14,884
is my opinion would be that the whole

859
00:30:14,884 --> 00:30:17,525
technocratic drive is, you know, like, today, we're

860
00:30:17,525 --> 00:30:19,125
at a point where this long sought agenda

861
00:30:19,125 --> 00:30:20,009
is now techno

862
00:30:20,329 --> 00:30:22,410
technologically possible. And I think that they're just

863
00:30:22,570 --> 00:30:24,170
this effort is to sort of get past

864
00:30:24,170 --> 00:30:25,930
a point where maybe they just pull the

865
00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:27,369
mask off and say, yes. We're exactly what

866
00:30:27,369 --> 00:30:28,410
you thought, but too late now, you can't

867
00:30:28,410 --> 00:30:29,369
do anything about it. You know, it's kinda

868
00:30:29,369 --> 00:30:30,890
where I feel like it's going, and maybe

869
00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:32,809
just as an effort because people are waking

870
00:30:32,809 --> 00:30:34,035
up to it. But, you know, one one

871
00:30:34,035 --> 00:30:36,115
thing I before we get into, like, the,

872
00:30:36,115 --> 00:30:38,195
you know, future idea of what would we

873
00:30:38,195 --> 00:30:40,115
do and and how do you transition is

874
00:30:40,115 --> 00:30:41,955
I I'm in an interesting place where I

875
00:30:41,955 --> 00:30:42,934
I argue

876
00:30:43,634 --> 00:30:45,154
you know, my mindset is very much in

877
00:30:45,154 --> 00:30:46,849
this idea. I think government is the problem.

878
00:30:46,849 --> 00:30:48,130
I don't think government has a right to

879
00:30:48,130 --> 00:30:49,730
exist. I think we can build a world

880
00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:50,950
where that is the reality.

881
00:30:51,490 --> 00:30:53,169
But at the same time, I argue from

882
00:30:53,169 --> 00:30:55,089
within this dynamic where I know that, like,

883
00:30:55,089 --> 00:30:56,529
there are people that still wanna vote. And

884
00:30:56,529 --> 00:30:57,984
I always start with that point. I don't

885
00:30:57,984 --> 00:30:58,944
think you should vote. I don't think it

886
00:30:58,944 --> 00:31:00,144
matters, but if you're going to, you know,

887
00:31:00,144 --> 00:31:01,984
and then get into another point where I

888
00:31:01,984 --> 00:31:04,644
talk about where like, for example, the constitution.

889
00:31:05,024 --> 00:31:06,804
I do believe in the constitution

890
00:31:07,265 --> 00:31:09,105
in so far that this system exists, if

891
00:31:09,105 --> 00:31:10,750
that makes sense. Like, I do I I

892
00:31:10,750 --> 00:31:12,349
would argue that from the origin point that

893
00:31:12,349 --> 00:31:13,549
there's none of that should have to be

894
00:31:13,549 --> 00:31:15,150
there in the conversation of, you know, from

895
00:31:15,150 --> 00:31:16,130
a government perspective.

896
00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:18,430
But with the current system, if we're forced

897
00:31:18,430 --> 00:31:20,190
to exist in it, I would argue that

898
00:31:20,190 --> 00:31:21,410
that is a

899
00:31:21,964 --> 00:31:23,724
a positive thing, I guess. If does that

900
00:31:23,724 --> 00:31:25,164
make sense to you, or is that something

901
00:31:25,164 --> 00:31:27,484
that wouldn't really, you know, make sense to

902
00:31:27,484 --> 00:31:29,805
to good. Does that make sense? Well, it

903
00:31:29,805 --> 00:31:31,404
it does. I mean, you're you're right that

904
00:31:31,404 --> 00:31:34,490
we need to have basic human rights codified.

905
00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:36,710
And when I like, when most people say

906
00:31:36,710 --> 00:31:38,950
the constitution, I've what I've noticed is they're

907
00:31:38,950 --> 00:31:40,950
talking about the bill of rights. And there

908
00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:42,490
needs to be some kind of codification

909
00:31:42,789 --> 00:31:45,750
that says, hey. Government doesn't have the ability

910
00:31:45,750 --> 00:31:48,404
to control free speech even though they do.

911
00:31:48,724 --> 00:31:50,805
Mhmm. They don't have the ability to keep

912
00:31:50,805 --> 00:31:53,445
you from, you know, being armed even though

913
00:31:53,445 --> 00:31:55,684
they do. They don't have the ability like,

914
00:31:55,684 --> 00:31:56,825
so it's a good idea,

915
00:31:57,765 --> 00:32:00,244
but the government ignores it. You know, you

916
00:32:00,244 --> 00:32:02,589
should be safe from safe and, you know,

917
00:32:02,589 --> 00:32:04,529
from you should be safe and secure

918
00:32:04,829 --> 00:32:05,329
from

919
00:32:05,789 --> 00:32:08,750
having your your papers and your personal effects

920
00:32:08,750 --> 00:32:10,769
searched by the government at any time,

921
00:32:11,309 --> 00:32:13,809
but it doesn't work. And so, like, it's

922
00:32:13,869 --> 00:32:15,250
it's a great idea,

923
00:32:15,815 --> 00:32:17,894
but it just didn't work. Like like and

924
00:32:17,894 --> 00:32:19,654
then there's some point that kinda like, it

925
00:32:19,654 --> 00:32:21,515
just it it I I'm I'm

926
00:32:21,974 --> 00:32:24,554
dumbfounded and amazed that most constitutional,

927
00:32:25,015 --> 00:32:25,914
you know, Republicans

928
00:32:26,934 --> 00:32:30,089
don't realize that it doesn't work at all.

929
00:32:30,169 --> 00:32:32,650
It hasn't been able the constitution has not

930
00:32:32,650 --> 00:32:35,049
been able to limit government at all at

931
00:32:35,049 --> 00:32:37,470
all at all at all. And the constitution

932
00:32:37,609 --> 00:32:40,089
has not even been able to guarantee even

933
00:32:40,089 --> 00:32:42,669
the most basic of human rights.

934
00:32:43,184 --> 00:32:44,784
And so, like, if you think that we

935
00:32:44,784 --> 00:32:46,804
have a second amendment, you go to Maryland

936
00:32:47,264 --> 00:32:49,904
where they've had, you know, thousands of red

937
00:32:49,904 --> 00:32:50,404
flag

938
00:32:50,784 --> 00:32:51,684
gun confiscations

939
00:32:52,144 --> 00:32:53,984
done by the police. The police are going

940
00:32:53,984 --> 00:32:55,950
away for it, but it says right there

941
00:32:55,950 --> 00:32:58,269
that you've got a second amendment, but they're

942
00:32:58,269 --> 00:33:00,190
gonna take your guns in Maryland through a

943
00:33:00,190 --> 00:33:02,669
red flag law because your neighbor found out

944
00:33:02,669 --> 00:33:04,190
you had guns and told them about it.

945
00:33:04,190 --> 00:33:05,970
And it's like it's that simple.

946
00:33:06,349 --> 00:33:07,809
And so the the constitution's

947
00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:10,190
it doesn't work. And so at some point,

948
00:33:10,190 --> 00:33:11,089
you gotta go,

949
00:33:11,605 --> 00:33:13,845
okay. If that doesn't work, then what does

950
00:33:13,845 --> 00:33:15,144
work? And luckily,

951
00:33:15,684 --> 00:33:18,164
real freedom. And it's so it's like so

952
00:33:18,164 --> 00:33:20,964
it's like amazing. Like, real freedom really delivers

953
00:33:20,964 --> 00:33:23,044
the goods. If you just got government out

954
00:33:23,044 --> 00:33:25,450
of the way, society would flourish. It wouldn't

955
00:33:25,450 --> 00:33:27,289
be, you know, mom, we're not claiming it's

956
00:33:27,289 --> 00:33:30,090
utopia. That's communism. Like, communism's, oh, we just

957
00:33:30,090 --> 00:33:32,890
gotta steal everything. We'll create utopia. We're not

958
00:33:32,890 --> 00:33:34,490
saying that, you know, that you're gonna have

959
00:33:34,490 --> 00:33:36,170
utopia. We're saying it's gonna be a lot

960
00:33:36,170 --> 00:33:38,240
better for the average person. There's gonna be

961
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,164
a lot more,

962
00:33:39,644 --> 00:33:41,805
wealth in society. And and the fact that

963
00:33:41,805 --> 00:33:43,644
there is more wine, cheese, and bread on

964
00:33:43,644 --> 00:33:44,305
the table

965
00:33:44,765 --> 00:33:47,404
means that the the real, the poor, the

966
00:33:47,404 --> 00:33:48,384
needy, disadvantaged,

967
00:33:48,924 --> 00:33:51,644
there's more than enough surplus for them Mhmm.

968
00:33:51,805 --> 00:33:54,065
When society isn't being having

969
00:33:54,369 --> 00:33:57,250
the product of their labor stolen from them

970
00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:58,069
and siphoned,

971
00:33:58,529 --> 00:34:01,089
you know, out the back door in Washington,

972
00:34:01,089 --> 00:34:02,549
DC to the worst,

973
00:34:03,089 --> 00:34:03,589
scummiest

974
00:34:04,369 --> 00:34:04,869
people

975
00:34:05,329 --> 00:34:05,829
imaginable.

976
00:34:06,474 --> 00:34:08,074
Yeah. And as I always simply put it

977
00:34:08,074 --> 00:34:10,155
that, you know, their government always pretends to

978
00:34:10,155 --> 00:34:11,755
remove danger from your life, and the reality

979
00:34:11,755 --> 00:34:13,835
is it simply it it doesn't. Right? There's

980
00:34:13,835 --> 00:34:15,514
danger will always be existent. And with like

981
00:34:15,514 --> 00:34:16,954
you're saying, in that system we just described,

982
00:34:16,954 --> 00:34:18,394
of course, there'll be hardship. There will be

983
00:34:18,394 --> 00:34:20,780
danger. That's that's life. Government simply adds another

984
00:34:20,780 --> 00:34:22,619
form of danger on top of everything else

985
00:34:22,619 --> 00:34:24,460
that's going on. But so I I would

986
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:25,900
say that, I mean, I think that it's

987
00:34:26,059 --> 00:34:27,659
the reason I asked that question is because

988
00:34:27,659 --> 00:34:29,659
it's like I'm trying to reach the average

989
00:34:29,659 --> 00:34:31,099
people in a way that sort of, like,

990
00:34:31,099 --> 00:34:32,940
can get get them on this this path,

991
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:34,380
you know? But at the same time, maybe

992
00:34:34,380 --> 00:34:36,315
that's counterintuitive. You know? So it's like these

993
00:34:36,315 --> 00:34:37,594
are the thoughts that are going through my

994
00:34:37,594 --> 00:34:39,835
mind as I'm understanding more of the the

995
00:34:39,835 --> 00:34:41,514
the possible directions in all of this. You

996
00:34:41,514 --> 00:34:43,215
know? So let's talk about,

997
00:34:44,315 --> 00:34:46,394
1st and foremost, with the conversation we're having.

998
00:34:46,394 --> 00:34:47,835
So I asked a couple people, you know,

999
00:34:47,835 --> 00:34:49,195
what what would be the question that would

1000
00:34:49,195 --> 00:34:50,679
come to your mind? People that I know

1001
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,599
have no have really no understanding about this

1002
00:34:52,599 --> 00:34:54,519
dynamic. And one of the questions is right

1003
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,300
now is, in your mind,

1004
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:58,440
is there a place in the world right

1005
00:34:58,440 --> 00:34:59,500
now that best

1006
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,199
comes closest to what you envision? Obviously, there's

1007
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:03,800
nothing I think that is what we're talking

1008
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:05,034
about. Is there a place in the world

1009
00:35:05,034 --> 00:35:06,474
you would say is the closest in that

1010
00:35:06,474 --> 00:35:07,534
direction right now?

1011
00:35:08,235 --> 00:35:09,675
So one of the things that I both

1012
00:35:09,675 --> 00:35:11,755
covered in government, the biggest scam in history,

1013
00:35:11,755 --> 00:35:13,614
and I'm covering in the new book, Voluntarism,

1014
00:35:14,635 --> 00:35:17,215
is these libertarian intentional communities

1015
00:35:17,820 --> 00:35:20,300
and communities that have that have that have

1016
00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:22,219
gotten rid of government. And so I'll give

1017
00:35:22,219 --> 00:35:24,000
you just a couple of of examples.

1018
00:35:25,180 --> 00:35:25,680
On,

1019
00:35:26,219 --> 00:35:27,760
on the island of Roritan,

1020
00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:30,320
off the coast of Honduras

1021
00:35:30,875 --> 00:35:31,755
is a,

1022
00:35:32,234 --> 00:35:33,775
is a intent libertarian

1023
00:35:34,155 --> 00:35:36,014
intentional community called Prospera

1024
00:35:36,795 --> 00:35:39,594
that went and leveraged the law that the

1025
00:35:39,594 --> 00:35:43,054
Honduran government had passed, to create special economic

1026
00:35:43,114 --> 00:35:43,614
zones.

1027
00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:45,519
And they negotiated

1028
00:35:46,059 --> 00:35:46,559
sovereignty

1029
00:35:47,579 --> 00:35:49,199
with the government of Honduras,

1030
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,039
and they have started,

1031
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:54,059
they they're over a 1,000, you know, kinda

1032
00:35:54,059 --> 00:35:56,960
acres. And they essentially have the lowest taxation.

1033
00:35:57,019 --> 00:35:58,719
They've got a negotiated sovereignty.

1034
00:35:59,385 --> 00:36:02,824
So besides criminal laws, which which do apply

1035
00:36:02,824 --> 00:36:04,925
to the, you know, the government of Honduras.

1036
00:36:05,465 --> 00:36:07,304
But like a lot of the the, you

1037
00:36:07,304 --> 00:36:09,324
know, the business rules and regulations

1038
00:36:09,784 --> 00:36:11,965
and and, you know, they don't apply

1039
00:36:12,519 --> 00:36:15,160
in the special economic zone. And so they

1040
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,380
have the lowest tax rate and the lowest

1041
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:19,099
regulatory

1042
00:36:19,559 --> 00:36:22,280
burden of almost any quote, unquote government. It

1043
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,660
is a it is a government,

1044
00:36:24,039 --> 00:36:25,420
but it is the tiniest

1045
00:36:25,954 --> 00:36:28,514
little fraction of a government that you can

1046
00:36:28,514 --> 00:36:29,014
imagine,

1047
00:36:29,554 --> 00:36:30,695
and it is succeeding

1048
00:36:31,074 --> 00:36:33,394
dramatically to the point of where all of

1049
00:36:33,394 --> 00:36:36,534
the commie government surrounded in Cuba and Venezuela.

1050
00:36:36,755 --> 00:36:37,650
And and now,

1051
00:36:38,369 --> 00:36:39,909
since the since the

1052
00:36:40,210 --> 00:36:42,849
the special economic zone law was passed in

1053
00:36:42,849 --> 00:36:46,049
Honduras, a more commie socialist government has come

1054
00:36:46,049 --> 00:36:48,289
in. And so now they're openly trying to

1055
00:36:48,289 --> 00:36:50,210
talking about, oh, we don't want this here.

1056
00:36:50,210 --> 00:36:51,429
Look. They're succeeding.

1057
00:36:52,114 --> 00:36:55,014
They're we've got they're literally making us look

1058
00:36:55,155 --> 00:36:57,714
horrible because they're they they they pay better

1059
00:36:57,714 --> 00:37:00,114
wages than the average wage in Honduras. They

1060
00:37:00,114 --> 00:37:02,835
have more economic freedom. They have better their,

1061
00:37:03,234 --> 00:37:03,734
their

1062
00:37:04,969 --> 00:37:07,609
public safety net is portable. They can take

1063
00:37:08,010 --> 00:37:10,109
you know, it goes with them. Their retirement

1064
00:37:10,250 --> 00:37:12,089
goes with them. It's not it's not the

1065
00:37:12,089 --> 00:37:14,329
government's to be able to dole out. And

1066
00:37:14,329 --> 00:37:16,730
so they're doing all of these things that

1067
00:37:16,730 --> 00:37:18,569
make the governments look bad. So the government

1068
00:37:18,569 --> 00:37:20,010
wants to, like, you know, wipe them out.

1069
00:37:20,010 --> 00:37:20,984
That's one example.

1070
00:37:21,445 --> 00:37:24,085
Another example that I would give is,

1071
00:37:24,885 --> 00:37:27,864
the the, the town of Sharon in Mexico,

1072
00:37:28,565 --> 00:37:31,125
which kicked out both the federal government of

1073
00:37:31,125 --> 00:37:34,425
Mexico and the cartels over a decade ago

1074
00:37:34,700 --> 00:37:36,700
and is doing just fine. They don't have

1075
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:39,019
the the federalities don't come around, and the

1076
00:37:39,019 --> 00:37:42,079
cartel doesn't come around, and they're self governing

1077
00:37:42,220 --> 00:37:44,380
themselves and have been doing it for over,

1078
00:37:44,619 --> 00:37:46,619
you know, over over a decade, and they're

1079
00:37:46,619 --> 00:37:48,480
doing just fine. That's another example.

1080
00:37:48,965 --> 00:37:51,704
And the final example I'd give is the,

1081
00:37:52,644 --> 00:37:55,144
the Free State Project in New Hampshire

1082
00:37:55,445 --> 00:37:56,664
Mhmm. Which is

1083
00:37:56,965 --> 00:37:57,465
concentrating

1084
00:37:57,765 --> 00:37:58,265
libertarians

1085
00:37:58,724 --> 00:37:59,385
and voluntarists

1086
00:37:59,765 --> 00:38:01,065
and peaceful anarchists

1087
00:38:01,445 --> 00:38:02,184
and minarchists

1088
00:38:02,485 --> 00:38:05,539
and and freedom lovers from around the world

1089
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:06,180
into

1090
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,880
New Hampshire. There's over 10,000 that are on

1091
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:10,019
the ground right now.

1092
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:14,079
They've got 25 plus elected members of the

1093
00:38:14,079 --> 00:38:16,559
house. They've got a voting bloc with other

1094
00:38:16,559 --> 00:38:19,715
freedom oriented Republicans. There's over over a

1095
00:38:20,015 --> 00:38:20,494
100,

1096
00:38:21,055 --> 00:38:23,155
pro freedom block in the legislature

1097
00:38:23,454 --> 00:38:25,555
right now. They're rolling back laws.

1098
00:38:26,095 --> 00:38:27,474
They're making they're,

1099
00:38:28,255 --> 00:38:28,755
they're,

1100
00:38:29,295 --> 00:38:29,855
you know,

1101
00:38:30,255 --> 00:38:32,414
empowering freedom in a way that isn't being

1102
00:38:32,414 --> 00:38:33,954
done kinda anywhere else.

1103
00:38:34,309 --> 00:38:35,610
And so they,

1104
00:38:35,989 --> 00:38:36,489
consequently,

1105
00:38:37,110 --> 00:38:38,730
New Hampshire doesn't have,

1106
00:38:39,110 --> 00:38:41,269
a state income tax. They don't have a

1107
00:38:41,269 --> 00:38:43,289
sales a state sales tax.

1108
00:38:43,670 --> 00:38:44,389
They are,

1109
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:46,949
they've got one of the tiniest quote unquote

1110
00:38:46,949 --> 00:38:49,785
safety nets there, but the people are flourishing.

1111
00:38:49,844 --> 00:38:53,045
They have the least amount of poverty. They're

1112
00:38:53,125 --> 00:38:54,565
or one of the, like, they're in the

1113
00:38:54,565 --> 00:38:57,525
they're in the the bottom five of all

1114
00:38:57,525 --> 00:39:00,085
50 states. They've got literally the lee almost

1115
00:39:00,085 --> 00:39:01,765
the least amount of poverty. They were number

1116
00:39:01,765 --> 00:39:04,130
1 in having the least amount of children

1117
00:39:04,190 --> 00:39:05,170
living in poverty.

1118
00:39:06,029 --> 00:39:09,230
And so the they've got a tremendous economic

1119
00:39:09,230 --> 00:39:11,630
growth. They've got, you know, tremendous, you know,

1120
00:39:11,630 --> 00:39:13,170
economy. They've got a tremendous

1121
00:39:13,549 --> 00:39:14,449
one of the highest,

1122
00:39:16,589 --> 00:39:19,250
average incomes in all of the different states

1123
00:39:19,364 --> 00:39:22,164
with the lowest tax and regulatory burden. So

1124
00:39:22,164 --> 00:39:23,304
they're kind of proving

1125
00:39:23,605 --> 00:39:25,945
something that we know that the more economic

1126
00:39:26,005 --> 00:39:28,985
and personal freedom you have, the more economic

1127
00:39:29,045 --> 00:39:32,324
prosperity that you have. And so, there's, you

1128
00:39:32,324 --> 00:39:33,210
know, think tanks,

1129
00:39:33,769 --> 00:39:35,929
Fraser Institute in Canada, Cato here in the

1130
00:39:35,929 --> 00:39:37,469
United States. They rank,

1131
00:39:38,089 --> 00:39:39,070
both the states

1132
00:39:40,089 --> 00:39:42,989
and the countries based on the amount of

1133
00:39:43,289 --> 00:39:45,609
personal freedom they have and economic freedom they

1134
00:39:45,609 --> 00:39:47,869
have. And across the board, what we know

1135
00:39:48,234 --> 00:39:50,635
is the more freedom that you have, the

1136
00:39:50,635 --> 00:39:52,494
better that you do economically

1137
00:39:52,795 --> 00:39:55,195
and the less, you know, disharmony that you

1138
00:39:55,195 --> 00:39:56,414
have among the population.

1139
00:39:56,954 --> 00:40:00,559
So so volunteerists just wanna maximize that. And,

1140
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:02,400
like, okay. If we already know that that

1141
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,719
is a, you know, a guaranteed dynamic that's

1142
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,679
going on, then let's have maximum economic freedom

1143
00:40:07,679 --> 00:40:11,039
and maximum personal freedom, and you'll see, society

1144
00:40:11,039 --> 00:40:11,539
flourish.

1145
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,085
Yeah. I agree. Now interestingly enough,

1146
00:40:14,644 --> 00:40:16,804
I actually so I agree with the latter

1147
00:40:16,804 --> 00:40:18,484
2. But I did a I I covered

1148
00:40:18,484 --> 00:40:20,005
this, and I we we should even talk

1149
00:40:20,005 --> 00:40:21,364
d more on this. Maybe we can talk

1150
00:40:21,364 --> 00:40:22,804
more in the conference because they this will

1151
00:40:22,804 --> 00:40:24,405
be a good question to bring up in

1152
00:40:24,405 --> 00:40:26,699
maybe the final panel kind of discussion. But

1153
00:40:26,699 --> 00:40:28,639
I I look deeper into the Prospera

1154
00:40:28,940 --> 00:40:29,440
conversation.

1155
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:31,119
Now Mhmm. It's actually

1156
00:40:31,579 --> 00:40:34,139
the it's owned funded by Peter Thiel. And

1157
00:40:34,139 --> 00:40:35,739
I as I dive into this deeper, it

1158
00:40:35,739 --> 00:40:37,500
becomes interesting to find out here's this is

1159
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:39,204
the article I did on it. The tech,

1160
00:40:39,284 --> 00:40:41,204
under it's called the technocratic regime change. Under

1161
00:40:41,204 --> 00:40:43,045
the guise of freedom, technocrats are slowly taking

1162
00:40:43,045 --> 00:40:44,585
control. It's a larger conversation.

1163
00:40:44,885 --> 00:40:47,125
But what worried me about specifically Honduras and

1164
00:40:47,125 --> 00:40:50,005
this is not a pro con discussion of

1165
00:40:50,005 --> 00:40:52,760
the other governments around it, but specifically that

1166
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,159
what they're doing to me begins to see

1167
00:40:55,159 --> 00:40:56,920
more and more like a like an illusion.

1168
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,920
Like, okay. What I'm talking about around the

1169
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,159
sort of, like, fake, you know, co option

1170
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:03,320
of whether, like, Bitcoin or the libertarian movement

1171
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,204
of, like, the Republican side of this, I

1172
00:41:05,204 --> 00:41:06,565
feel like this is part of that and

1173
00:41:06,565 --> 00:41:08,244
I could definitely be wrong. But what I'm

1174
00:41:08,244 --> 00:41:09,864
worried about is that this is ultimately,

1175
00:41:10,164 --> 00:41:12,485
trying to tap into what we're what we're

1176
00:41:12,485 --> 00:41:14,164
talking about and create this in a way

1177
00:41:14,164 --> 00:41:15,305
that is more of a technocratic

1178
00:41:15,765 --> 00:41:18,005
takeover. And what I'm noticing is there what's

1179
00:41:18,005 --> 00:41:20,309
going on in the local area is actually

1180
00:41:20,309 --> 00:41:22,710
almost at the expense of the Honduran people

1181
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:24,469
outside of this area. And there are there

1182
00:41:24,469 --> 00:41:26,789
are actually encroaching on a place called Crawfish

1183
00:41:26,789 --> 00:41:28,630
Rock where they're claiming that they don't they

1184
00:41:28,630 --> 00:41:30,309
have the permission to do it. And the

1185
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:31,910
way it got set up was actually post

1186
00:41:31,910 --> 00:41:33,829
an illegal coup from the US government that

1187
00:41:33,829 --> 00:41:36,045
Peter Thiel and these companies took advantage of.

1188
00:41:36,045 --> 00:41:37,405
And even if even if it ends up

1189
00:41:37,405 --> 00:41:39,405
being a positive thing, it's interesting to see

1190
00:41:39,405 --> 00:41:41,324
how this is playing out in a illegal

1191
00:41:41,324 --> 00:41:43,324
regime change. They actually removed people on the

1192
00:41:43,324 --> 00:41:45,005
judges, the court, to be able to get

1193
00:41:45,005 --> 00:41:46,684
the law passed, then they revoke the law.

1194
00:41:46,684 --> 00:41:48,764
Now they don't care. It's an interesting way

1195
00:41:48,764 --> 00:41:50,690
it's happening. So I actually hope that I'm

1196
00:41:50,690 --> 00:41:52,049
wrong, and I I I'd like to believe

1197
00:41:52,049 --> 00:41:54,130
that this goes in the direction of essentially

1198
00:41:54,130 --> 00:41:56,210
fulfilling what we're talking about. But I worry

1199
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:58,369
that there's a a a play happening here.

1200
00:41:58,369 --> 00:41:59,889
And and maybe give me your thoughts on

1201
00:41:59,889 --> 00:42:01,510
that in general, kind of like the larger

1202
00:42:01,650 --> 00:42:02,789
Republican Trump,

1203
00:42:03,454 --> 00:42:06,175
Elon Musk, keel kind of direction on techno

1204
00:42:06,255 --> 00:42:08,494
technocracy and all that, or just this point?

1205
00:42:08,494 --> 00:42:10,255
And do you see that in this, or

1206
00:42:10,255 --> 00:42:11,614
do you see that happening in general in

1207
00:42:11,614 --> 00:42:12,655
a large way? I just I think it's

1208
00:42:12,655 --> 00:42:13,635
an interesting conversation.

1209
00:42:14,175 --> 00:42:16,494
So I don't know the extent that that

1210
00:42:16,494 --> 00:42:17,295
Thiel has,

1211
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:20,780
has his hooks into Prospera other than being

1212
00:42:20,780 --> 00:42:21,440
an investor.

1213
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:24,059
I know Primary primary backer is all I

1214
00:42:24,059 --> 00:42:26,300
know. Yeah. Yeah. I've like, I don't even

1215
00:42:26,300 --> 00:42:28,140
know if it's the primary backer, but I'll

1216
00:42:28,219 --> 00:42:29,660
I can find out I can find that

1217
00:42:29,660 --> 00:42:31,420
out and we can reconvene on that. We

1218
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:32,860
should. It's a good company. What I will

1219
00:42:32,860 --> 00:42:34,755
say is that that, you know, one of

1220
00:42:34,755 --> 00:42:37,155
the things that, that we were very prescient

1221
00:42:37,155 --> 00:42:39,155
about is in in my book, government, the

1222
00:42:39,155 --> 00:42:42,775
biggest scam in history Mhmm. Exposed, there's only

1223
00:42:43,315 --> 00:42:43,815
one,

1224
00:42:44,194 --> 00:42:46,755
which was the 5th edition was released in,

1225
00:42:47,954 --> 00:42:49,094
early 2020

1226
00:42:50,329 --> 00:42:51,949
2 or 2020 2023.

1227
00:42:52,969 --> 00:42:54,590
And in that or sorry, 2020

1228
00:42:55,130 --> 00:42:58,269
yeah. 3. And in that that 5th edition,

1229
00:42:58,650 --> 00:43:01,449
the there was only one politician whose name

1230
00:43:01,449 --> 00:43:02,909
appeared three times,

1231
00:43:03,425 --> 00:43:05,905
and that was JD Vance. Mhmm. And we

1232
00:43:05,905 --> 00:43:07,364
used him as an example

1233
00:43:07,664 --> 00:43:08,965
of a CIA

1234
00:43:09,344 --> 00:43:09,844
connected,

1235
00:43:11,984 --> 00:43:12,484
politician

1236
00:43:12,784 --> 00:43:13,284
because

1237
00:43:14,065 --> 00:43:17,264
Peter Thiel is a CIA contractor that funded

1238
00:43:17,264 --> 00:43:18,085
JD Vance's

1239
00:43:18,750 --> 00:43:20,210
campaign to the tune of $15,000,000,

1240
00:43:20,909 --> 00:43:23,309
the largest don't single donation to a senate

1241
00:43:23,309 --> 00:43:26,429
campaign ever. Mhmm. We built JD Vance, we

1242
00:43:26,429 --> 00:43:28,210
also used him as an example

1243
00:43:28,670 --> 00:43:32,045
of a CIA controlled media piece. Because there's

1244
00:43:32,045 --> 00:43:34,365
dozens and dozens of people within the media

1245
00:43:34,365 --> 00:43:36,204
out of, like, the 200 ish that get

1246
00:43:36,204 --> 00:43:38,525
to talk about news and current events on

1247
00:43:38,525 --> 00:43:39,664
the on the media.

1248
00:43:40,204 --> 00:43:41,265
He was a CNN

1249
00:43:41,805 --> 00:43:42,305
correspondent.

1250
00:43:43,005 --> 00:43:43,405
So,

1251
00:43:43,805 --> 00:43:46,409
so because he has been funded by other

1252
00:43:46,409 --> 00:43:48,489
CIA contractors, his his,

1253
00:43:48,969 --> 00:43:51,690
his venture capital firm is funded by CIA

1254
00:43:51,690 --> 00:43:53,949
contractors, Peter Thiel. Mhmm.

1255
00:43:54,329 --> 00:43:55,150
Jeff Bezos,

1256
00:43:56,730 --> 00:43:58,429
they've got multibillion dollar,

1257
00:43:59,050 --> 00:44:01,050
agreements with the CIA for,

1258
00:44:01,625 --> 00:44:02,364
for cloud,

1259
00:44:03,065 --> 00:44:04,444
computing and web services.

1260
00:44:04,744 --> 00:44:07,244
It's just so ridiculous that sorry. Go ahead.

1261
00:44:07,545 --> 00:44:09,885
It is so ridiculous. And Eric Schmidt.

1262
00:44:10,344 --> 00:44:12,264
God. And so Eric Schmidt is an investor

1263
00:44:12,264 --> 00:44:13,676
into his thing. And and CIA like, you

1264
00:44:13,676 --> 00:44:13,791
can we have, you know, one of the

1265
00:44:13,791 --> 00:44:13,893
one of the documents that we have on

1266
00:44:13,893 --> 00:44:14,844
our flash drive, the freedom, the

1267
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:22,660
Liberator is how the CIA created Google,

1268
00:44:23,039 --> 00:44:26,239
which breaks down the Highland Forum and, and

1269
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:26,980
the programs

1270
00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:30,434
that that that Google came out of and

1271
00:44:30,434 --> 00:44:33,094
all of its connections to the military industrial

1272
00:44:33,155 --> 00:44:35,015
complex through the Highland Forum

1273
00:44:35,555 --> 00:44:38,675
and through, you know, early grants that they

1274
00:44:38,675 --> 00:44:40,215
got from DARPA for,

1275
00:44:40,795 --> 00:44:42,215
you know, Google Technologies,

1276
00:44:42,515 --> 00:44:43,735
the handing of keyhole,

1277
00:44:45,269 --> 00:44:48,230
satellite data, which created Google Maps, which made

1278
00:44:48,230 --> 00:44:49,369
Google so indispensable

1279
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:51,369
to, you know, to many, many people.

1280
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:54,550
And so, so you've got you've got you've

1281
00:44:54,550 --> 00:44:56,890
got you've got CIA contractors

1282
00:44:57,269 --> 00:44:59,945
funding this guy, JD Vance. And then the

1283
00:44:59,945 --> 00:45:00,925
final example

1284
00:45:01,304 --> 00:45:03,144
of JD Vance is we used him as

1285
00:45:03,144 --> 00:45:03,804
a textbook

1286
00:45:04,184 --> 00:45:04,684
example

1287
00:45:05,465 --> 00:45:06,284
of a,

1288
00:45:06,824 --> 00:45:09,405
what we called a, creative legend,

1289
00:45:09,784 --> 00:45:11,164
which is where the CIA

1290
00:45:11,465 --> 00:45:12,844
will give people

1291
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:15,440
an undeserved accolades. Like,

1292
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,760
okay. Yeah. Sure. We'll write a best selling

1293
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,199
book for you. We'll make you a best

1294
00:45:19,199 --> 00:45:22,019
selling author. We'll have Ron Howard and Netflix

1295
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:24,179
come around and make a,

1296
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,400
you know, a movie out of your best

1297
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,694
selling book right before your senate campaign Right.

1298
00:45:29,855 --> 00:45:31,295
You know, to get you so we can

1299
00:45:31,295 --> 00:45:33,135
install you in office so that we can

1300
00:45:33,135 --> 00:45:35,375
make you the vice president, ultimately make you

1301
00:45:35,375 --> 00:45:35,954
the president.

1302
00:45:36,494 --> 00:45:38,894
And so Barack Obama, we break down his

1303
00:45:38,894 --> 00:45:41,534
connections to the CIA. And and first job

1304
00:45:41,534 --> 00:45:43,340
out of college is working for us, a

1305
00:45:43,340 --> 00:45:46,559
known CIA front company called Business International Corporation

1306
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:49,260
and and other connections to the CIA. But

1307
00:45:49,260 --> 00:45:52,320
the CIA is now installing these politicians

1308
00:45:52,699 --> 00:45:54,940
in in the in the country. And I

1309
00:45:54,940 --> 00:45:56,239
think Peter Thiel

1310
00:45:56,619 --> 00:45:58,239
is one of those conduits

1311
00:45:58,805 --> 00:46:00,885
that they're saying, okay. Yeah, Peter. We'll give

1312
00:46:00,885 --> 00:46:03,305
you 1,000,000,000 and 1,000,000,000 of dollars

1313
00:46:04,085 --> 00:46:04,585
for,

1314
00:46:05,525 --> 00:46:08,565
Palantir and for these companies, but you're going

1315
00:46:08,565 --> 00:46:09,305
to serve

1316
00:46:09,765 --> 00:46:12,239
as some of that money is gonna serve

1317
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,079
as you're gonna, you know, you're gonna fund

1318
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:15,840
these people we tell you to fund, and

1319
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,599
we're gonna you know, you're going to fund

1320
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:20,159
these causes and these organizations and these groups

1321
00:46:20,159 --> 00:46:22,239
or whatever it is. And so I think

1322
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:24,880
that that is, the dynamic that we've seen

1323
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,659
with JD Vance. And so then,

1324
00:46:27,405 --> 00:46:28,925
you know, we we we list him. He's

1325
00:46:28,925 --> 00:46:31,485
the only politician through appears 3 times. We

1326
00:46:31,485 --> 00:46:34,785
list him literally as the example of CIA

1327
00:46:34,844 --> 00:46:36,545
installed politician, CIA

1328
00:46:37,085 --> 00:46:40,125
installed media, and creative legends. And lo and

1329
00:46:40,125 --> 00:46:40,625
behold,

1330
00:46:41,164 --> 00:46:42,065
he's made

1331
00:46:42,539 --> 00:46:44,619
vice president of the United States. How funny

1332
00:46:44,619 --> 00:46:46,380
is that? He's got, like, a leading candidate.

1333
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:48,460
You know, he's the the leading candidate to

1334
00:46:48,460 --> 00:46:50,140
be vice president of the United States and

1335
00:46:50,140 --> 00:46:51,039
probably president

1336
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:52,960
in the next election cycle.

1337
00:46:53,820 --> 00:46:55,340
And so, like, we called it, like, a

1338
00:46:55,340 --> 00:46:56,320
Babe Ruth Homer.

1339
00:46:56,635 --> 00:46:58,394
Yeah. Absolutely did, man. And that there's some

1340
00:46:58,474 --> 00:47:00,555
that's a that's that's impressive. Because, I mean,

1341
00:47:00,555 --> 00:47:02,315
really, you know, to see that happen. And

1342
00:47:02,315 --> 00:47:04,635
and and no and, realistically, nobody I mean,

1343
00:47:04,635 --> 00:47:06,474
well, I'm sure some people, but most people

1344
00:47:06,474 --> 00:47:08,155
would not have predicted that person would become

1345
00:47:08,155 --> 00:47:09,994
vice president with so little background. So it's

1346
00:47:09,994 --> 00:47:12,070
interesting. You know? And so this is what

1347
00:47:12,070 --> 00:47:13,269
I was kind of laughing of that I

1348
00:47:13,269 --> 00:47:15,429
said just burst out laughing. It's just such

1349
00:47:15,429 --> 00:47:17,909
a comical, cartoonish you know, those are the

1350
00:47:17,909 --> 00:47:19,510
outsiders. That's what jumped into my head. You

1351
00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:21,050
know? Like, these are the Yeah. Yeah. Independent

1352
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:23,510
outsiders trying to change the system or fight

1353
00:47:23,510 --> 00:47:25,594
the deep state. They represent a better example

1354
00:47:25,594 --> 00:47:27,195
of the deep state than anything I see

1355
00:47:27,195 --> 00:47:28,795
pointing to today. You know, it's it's incredible

1356
00:47:28,795 --> 00:47:30,394
to me. And just for the record, obviously,

1357
00:47:30,394 --> 00:47:32,074
I think Kamala Harris and Wallace are all

1358
00:47:32,074 --> 00:47:33,355
the same thing. I just find them to

1359
00:47:33,355 --> 00:47:34,335
be so

1360
00:47:34,875 --> 00:47:35,375
embarrassingly

1361
00:47:35,755 --> 00:47:38,069
secondary. Like, I that my honesty since I've

1362
00:47:38,150 --> 00:47:39,349
since it comes up and I've said this

1363
00:47:39,349 --> 00:47:40,710
on the show many times, I get the

1364
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:42,789
sense that they're almost playing the role of

1365
00:47:42,789 --> 00:47:45,589
the clownish underdog. Like, it just that even

1366
00:47:45,589 --> 00:47:47,269
people that wanna support her are gonna go,

1367
00:47:47,269 --> 00:47:49,429
well, at least Trump's saying he wants to

1368
00:47:49,429 --> 00:47:50,869
fight for free speech. You know? Like, they're

1369
00:47:50,869 --> 00:47:52,724
driving people in that direction. It's it's a

1370
00:47:52,724 --> 00:47:54,885
fascinating thing. But I'm gonna own it. Come

1371
00:47:54,965 --> 00:47:56,905
we should come back to that larger conversation.

1372
00:47:57,525 --> 00:47:59,144
The the the bigger point of the possibility

1373
00:47:59,285 --> 00:47:59,785
of

1374
00:48:00,244 --> 00:48:01,144
whether it's technocracy

1375
00:48:01,445 --> 00:48:03,525
or any number of, you know, authoritarians sort

1376
00:48:03,525 --> 00:48:04,425
of utilizing

1377
00:48:04,910 --> 00:48:06,510
the idea like they do with anything for

1378
00:48:06,510 --> 00:48:08,910
that matter. A growing momentum gets co opted.

1379
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:10,190
Right? And I'm worried that that might be

1380
00:48:10,190 --> 00:48:11,469
part of what we're seeing with this stuff.

1381
00:48:11,469 --> 00:48:12,750
You know? And so at the very least,

1382
00:48:12,750 --> 00:48:13,950
we should all be on guard for that

1383
00:48:13,950 --> 00:48:15,170
exact point. You know?

1384
00:48:15,550 --> 00:48:16,210
I agree.

1385
00:48:16,590 --> 00:48:18,394
I'd I'd like to go into another question

1386
00:48:18,394 --> 00:48:19,434
about like, and this was one of the

1387
00:48:19,434 --> 00:48:20,875
ones somebody else asked me. And this I'm

1388
00:48:20,875 --> 00:48:22,635
sure you get this all the time. And

1389
00:48:22,635 --> 00:48:24,235
so it it and let's go jump to

1390
00:48:24,235 --> 00:48:26,554
a world where this has effectively happened. Right?

1391
00:48:26,554 --> 00:48:28,554
So now we're in a place where exactly

1392
00:48:28,554 --> 00:48:30,735
what you would envision is now in effect.

1393
00:48:30,890 --> 00:48:32,969
So the question becomes, what happens then when

1394
00:48:32,969 --> 00:48:35,130
somebody goes rogue or a group or something

1395
00:48:35,130 --> 00:48:36,969
happens and all of a sudden your society

1396
00:48:36,969 --> 00:48:38,809
is challenged by a, you know, a violent

1397
00:48:38,809 --> 00:48:40,570
group or somebody who doesn't wanna play their

1398
00:48:40,570 --> 00:48:42,010
part? You know? So I I know I'm

1399
00:48:42,010 --> 00:48:43,369
sure you got plenty of answers for that.

1400
00:48:43,369 --> 00:48:44,730
So how would that go in in that

1401
00:48:44,730 --> 00:48:46,170
context in a in a world that this

1402
00:48:46,170 --> 00:48:46,784
is in effect?

1403
00:48:47,344 --> 00:48:48,944
So in a world where you don't have

1404
00:48:48,944 --> 00:48:50,244
the monopoly police,

1405
00:48:51,424 --> 00:48:53,344
everybody wants to be safe and secure in

1406
00:48:53,344 --> 00:48:55,424
their home. Everybody wants to be safe and

1407
00:48:55,424 --> 00:48:57,744
secure at their businesses. Businesses need to be

1408
00:48:57,744 --> 00:48:59,664
able to do business. People need to be

1409
00:48:59,664 --> 00:49:00,164
comfortable,

1410
00:49:00,464 --> 00:49:02,724
you know, going to their home at night.

1411
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:05,960
And so there is a market for armed

1412
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,099
protective services

1413
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:10,199
of which the government has installed itself as

1414
00:49:10,199 --> 00:49:13,500
the monopoly provider and does a absolute horrible

1415
00:49:13,559 --> 00:49:15,800
job. And it's kinda funny because right now,

1416
00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,835
I'm I'm back in my second hometown, Memphis,

1417
00:49:17,914 --> 00:49:21,534
Tennessee right now. And, it's so bad that

1418
00:49:21,594 --> 00:49:24,815
every single shopping center, every single business

1419
00:49:25,114 --> 00:49:26,974
has to go out and hire

1420
00:49:27,355 --> 00:49:30,734
private security in addition to the free

1421
00:49:31,980 --> 00:49:34,619
armed protective services that they're getting getting from

1422
00:49:34,619 --> 00:49:35,280
the government.

1423
00:49:35,579 --> 00:49:37,820
And so people are already paying they're, like,

1424
00:49:37,820 --> 00:49:40,239
having to pay twice because they're not getting

1425
00:49:40,780 --> 00:49:43,019
the armed protective services that they're promised by

1426
00:49:43,019 --> 00:49:45,340
the government. Doesn't do does such a crappy

1427
00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:47,360
job that they have to, you know, hire,

1428
00:49:47,555 --> 00:49:48,375
you know, additional armed

1429
00:49:48,675 --> 00:49:49,655
protective services.

1430
00:49:50,035 --> 00:49:52,215
And so but the difference between

1431
00:49:52,515 --> 00:49:54,835
our you know, the monopoly version and the

1432
00:49:54,835 --> 00:49:57,954
private version is, number 1, there's the market

1433
00:49:57,954 --> 00:50:01,429
competition. So now you've got companies like ADT

1434
00:50:01,570 --> 00:50:04,230
and Brinks and Westech that are already providing

1435
00:50:04,289 --> 00:50:05,989
ARM Protect Services today

1436
00:50:06,609 --> 00:50:07,109
competing

1437
00:50:07,730 --> 00:50:08,789
for your dollar,

1438
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:11,250
which number one means they're probably gonna do

1439
00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:13,010
a better job as you as as, you

1440
00:50:13,010 --> 00:50:15,364
know, as Brinks. Who does a better job

1441
00:50:15,364 --> 00:50:18,244
of of of protecting, you know, the neighborhoods

1442
00:50:18,244 --> 00:50:20,085
in the city? Who does a better job

1443
00:50:20,085 --> 00:50:21,304
of getting restitution

1444
00:50:22,324 --> 00:50:23,464
instead of retribution?

1445
00:50:24,085 --> 00:50:24,824
The government,

1446
00:50:25,605 --> 00:50:27,224
system is all about retribution.

1447
00:50:27,769 --> 00:50:29,449
In a in a in a private system,

1448
00:50:29,449 --> 00:50:31,949
I don't really care about, you know, retribution.

1449
00:50:32,089 --> 00:50:34,250
I wanna get my television back. Mhmm. I

1450
00:50:34,250 --> 00:50:35,809
wanna get my money back. I wanna get

1451
00:50:35,849 --> 00:50:36,909
I want you to produce

1452
00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:37,710
restitution

1453
00:50:38,089 --> 00:50:39,069
instead of retribution.

1454
00:50:39,929 --> 00:50:40,429
And,

1455
00:50:41,795 --> 00:50:43,954
I have the ability to protect my own

1456
00:50:43,954 --> 00:50:45,255
life, liberty, and property.

1457
00:50:45,634 --> 00:50:48,514
So I can delegate that to armed protective

1458
00:50:48,514 --> 00:50:50,934
services company to exercise on my behalf,

1459
00:50:51,234 --> 00:50:53,634
but I don't have the ability of telling

1460
00:50:53,634 --> 00:50:55,474
my neighbor that he can't have a poker

1461
00:50:55,474 --> 00:50:55,974
game.

1462
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,079
I don't have the ability of telling my

1463
00:50:58,079 --> 00:50:59,780
neighbor he can't smoke a plant,

1464
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:02,579
so I can't have my armed protective service

1465
00:51:02,639 --> 00:51:04,480
guy go over and do something that I

1466
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,260
don't have the right to do today.

1467
00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:09,299
Whereas the whereas the monopoly,

1468
00:51:09,599 --> 00:51:10,579
you know, government,

1469
00:51:11,625 --> 00:51:13,864
they'll they'll throw you in jail for having

1470
00:51:13,864 --> 00:51:15,385
a poker game. They'll throw you in jail

1471
00:51:15,385 --> 00:51:17,065
for smoking a plant. They'll throw it like

1472
00:51:17,144 --> 00:51:20,125
they're they're out there using violence on peaceful

1473
00:51:20,184 --> 00:51:20,684
people,

1474
00:51:21,784 --> 00:51:24,585
in ways that prove that they're tyrannical and

1475
00:51:24,585 --> 00:51:25,085
immoral.

1476
00:51:25,449 --> 00:51:27,289
And so you're not gonna get that in

1477
00:51:27,289 --> 00:51:28,349
a private system

1478
00:51:28,730 --> 00:51:31,369
as just a couple of examples of why

1479
00:51:31,369 --> 00:51:33,690
it would be better. But most people have

1480
00:51:33,690 --> 00:51:35,769
never really thought about it because it's not

1481
00:51:35,769 --> 00:51:37,944
gonna be on the test. Right? Right. At

1482
00:51:37,944 --> 00:51:40,424
the at the government school. And so, you

1483
00:51:40,424 --> 00:51:41,944
know, what we're trying to do with Liberty

1484
00:51:41,944 --> 00:51:43,864
on the Rocks is well, a lot of

1485
00:51:43,864 --> 00:51:45,385
people have thought about it. Some of the

1486
00:51:45,385 --> 00:51:48,424
world's leading legal scholars and and and,

1487
00:51:48,824 --> 00:51:49,964
and economists.

1488
00:51:50,585 --> 00:51:52,605
And we're going to, you know, let you

1489
00:51:52,664 --> 00:51:55,480
see and talk these people that are gonna

1490
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,819
talk to you about how we're going to,

1491
00:51:58,599 --> 00:52:00,619
build the roads, how we're going to,

1492
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:03,559
you know, deliver the mail without the government.

1493
00:52:03,559 --> 00:52:04,219
You know?

1494
00:52:04,599 --> 00:52:05,579
By the way, Canada,

1495
00:52:06,039 --> 00:52:07,764
privatized air traffic control,

1496
00:52:08,244 --> 00:52:10,324
over a decade ago, and planes aren't dropping

1497
00:52:10,324 --> 00:52:11,945
out of the sky in Canada.

1498
00:52:13,045 --> 00:52:14,724
There's an one of the examples I've been

1499
00:52:14,724 --> 00:52:16,965
do using a lot is there's actually a

1500
00:52:16,965 --> 00:52:19,204
a place in Maine called the North Maine

1501
00:52:19,204 --> 00:52:22,025
Woods. It's 3 and a half 1000000 acres

1502
00:52:22,550 --> 00:52:26,070
of privately protected forest. It's twice the size

1503
00:52:26,070 --> 00:52:26,730
of Massachusetts.

1504
00:52:28,070 --> 00:52:30,389
It's all privately owned, and all the owner

1505
00:52:30,550 --> 00:52:32,630
owners, you know, have thrown in mostly its

1506
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:35,795
timber companies, but there's private landowners and and,

1507
00:52:36,275 --> 00:52:36,775
nonprofits

1508
00:52:37,075 --> 00:52:38,914
that are that are, you know, that are

1509
00:52:38,914 --> 00:52:41,555
interested in conservation and and things like that.

1510
00:52:41,555 --> 00:52:43,315
And it has all of the amenities that

1511
00:52:43,315 --> 00:52:45,255
you'd expect from a national park.

1512
00:52:45,555 --> 00:52:47,235
You can go hiking there. You can go

1513
00:52:47,235 --> 00:52:49,110
hunting. You can go 4 wheeling. You can

1514
00:52:49,110 --> 00:52:50,550
do everything you can do in a in

1515
00:52:50,550 --> 00:52:53,269
a national park, but it's all private. And

1516
00:52:53,269 --> 00:52:54,950
so a lot of people, they they've never

1517
00:52:55,110 --> 00:52:56,869
they're they're gonna be shocked. You mean, there's

1518
00:52:56,869 --> 00:52:59,829
a a privately protected park twice the size

1519
00:52:59,829 --> 00:53:01,910
of Massachusetts? How did I not know about

1520
00:53:01,910 --> 00:53:03,829
this? And these are the things you're gonna

1521
00:53:03,829 --> 00:53:05,824
find out about at Liberty on the Rocks.

1522
00:53:06,045 --> 00:53:06,545
Outstanding.

1523
00:53:06,925 --> 00:53:08,925
Well, so back to the point in regard

1524
00:53:08,925 --> 00:53:11,565
to the the enforcement. So what it's interesting

1525
00:53:11,565 --> 00:53:13,405
is so so your the answer is essentially

1526
00:53:13,405 --> 00:53:15,804
that you and, obviously, the the unspoken obvious

1527
00:53:15,804 --> 00:53:17,405
point is you can defend yourself. Right? You

1528
00:53:17,405 --> 00:53:19,085
can Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That that doesn't

1529
00:53:19,085 --> 00:53:20,890
go away. Yeah. But but so the in

1530
00:53:20,890 --> 00:53:22,489
this case, you could hire somebody. So as,

1531
00:53:22,489 --> 00:53:24,010
like, an entity so you run a company,

1532
00:53:24,010 --> 00:53:25,849
you can hire somebody to defend that. Mhmm.

1533
00:53:25,849 --> 00:53:27,369
And and so the question that I guess

1534
00:53:27,369 --> 00:53:29,289
the extension would be I mean, realistically, you

1535
00:53:29,289 --> 00:53:31,769
could then make your force attack somebody or

1536
00:53:31,769 --> 00:53:33,530
do something. And so I'm trying to get

1537
00:53:33,530 --> 00:53:35,155
to the point of how that, like, set

1538
00:53:35,394 --> 00:53:37,394
Oh, oh, oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. So You

1539
00:53:37,394 --> 00:53:39,575
know? So so first of all,

1540
00:53:39,954 --> 00:53:41,875
so you so so now let's say one

1541
00:53:41,875 --> 00:53:43,894
of these companies wants to go rogue.

1542
00:53:44,355 --> 00:53:44,855
Okay?

1543
00:53:45,235 --> 00:53:46,454
So number 1,

1544
00:53:48,269 --> 00:53:50,190
not a lot of business owners that have

1545
00:53:50,190 --> 00:53:51,250
successful companies

1546
00:53:51,869 --> 00:53:54,989
wanna risk that Yeah. By, you know, going

1547
00:53:54,989 --> 00:53:57,650
and picking, you know, like like, now openly

1548
00:53:57,789 --> 00:54:00,989
committing evil and robbing other people, number 1.

1549
00:54:00,989 --> 00:54:03,094
So you're you're not gonna you're really not

1550
00:54:03,094 --> 00:54:05,734
gonna have a business owner that's probably gonna

1551
00:54:05,734 --> 00:54:07,174
do that. But let's say you do, he's

1552
00:54:07,174 --> 00:54:09,574
gone insane and he now, you know, goes

1553
00:54:09,574 --> 00:54:11,494
down to the, you know, to the the

1554
00:54:11,494 --> 00:54:13,255
room where everybody gets ready and goes, hey.

1555
00:54:13,255 --> 00:54:15,494
We're gonna go and invade this other town

1556
00:54:15,494 --> 00:54:17,739
or do whatever it is. Well, a lot

1557
00:54:17,739 --> 00:54:19,500
of people aren't gonna go along with it.

1558
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,760
Number 1, because the people that work there,

1559
00:54:21,820 --> 00:54:23,739
you know, they're like, I didn't really sign

1560
00:54:23,739 --> 00:54:25,660
up for that. Number 2, all of these

1561
00:54:25,660 --> 00:54:28,059
customers are gonna quit. Right? Right. Hey. Wait

1562
00:54:28,059 --> 00:54:30,220
a minute, dude. I'm trying to I'm paying

1563
00:54:30,220 --> 00:54:31,440
you to protect me,

1564
00:54:32,074 --> 00:54:34,635
not go and and rob other people or

1565
00:54:34,635 --> 00:54:36,474
doing whatever it is that you that the

1566
00:54:36,474 --> 00:54:38,394
person wants to do so the customers are

1567
00:54:38,394 --> 00:54:40,335
gonna quit. And then finally,

1568
00:54:41,434 --> 00:54:43,434
if you go to try and attack somebody

1569
00:54:43,434 --> 00:54:45,994
else that has like, if ADT goes to

1570
00:54:45,994 --> 00:54:48,449
attack, you know, somebody that has service with

1571
00:54:48,449 --> 00:54:48,949
Brink's,

1572
00:54:49,409 --> 00:54:51,190
then they're gonna have to face Brink's.

1573
00:54:51,730 --> 00:54:54,530
And so so so it's it's there's there's

1574
00:54:54,530 --> 00:54:57,110
all of these kind of checks and balances

1575
00:54:57,969 --> 00:54:59,510
that the market has

1576
00:54:59,885 --> 00:55:02,684
that would prevent something like that from ever

1577
00:55:02,684 --> 00:55:04,844
happening. Well and I think the obvious point

1578
00:55:04,844 --> 00:55:06,444
there is that like like like we said

1579
00:55:06,444 --> 00:55:08,444
in the beginning, the danger and risk is

1580
00:55:08,444 --> 00:55:10,045
not removed in a situation. But so the

1581
00:55:10,204 --> 00:55:11,964
there's always gonna be somebody that might choose.

1582
00:55:11,964 --> 00:55:13,644
I think the interesting point is, like, you

1583
00:55:13,644 --> 00:55:15,489
discussed about self like, the the it kind

1584
00:55:15,489 --> 00:55:17,929
of self regulates where the other people involved

1585
00:55:17,929 --> 00:55:19,449
wouldn't want that. Now, to be let's just

1586
00:55:19,449 --> 00:55:21,690
say hypothetically, obviously, somebody could do that and

1587
00:55:21,690 --> 00:55:23,769
maybe even cause violence and maybe even take

1588
00:55:23,769 --> 00:55:25,609
something that's not theirs. But I would argue

1589
00:55:25,609 --> 00:55:27,130
that the what you would describe is that

1590
00:55:27,130 --> 00:55:28,715
the the towns around them or the people

1591
00:55:28,715 --> 00:55:30,474
would no longer want their services, and then

1592
00:55:30,474 --> 00:55:32,315
people would ultimately be able to marshal and

1593
00:55:32,315 --> 00:55:33,835
push back. And and it's I guess what

1594
00:55:33,835 --> 00:55:35,355
we're saying is it's basically the same kind

1595
00:55:35,355 --> 00:55:37,675
of dynamic that would happen today ultimately with

1596
00:55:37,675 --> 00:55:40,074
less, you know, lack of freedom and government

1597
00:55:40,074 --> 00:55:41,994
control over your life. And ultimately, people would

1598
00:55:41,994 --> 00:55:43,420
still, like, I think that's what makes the

1599
00:55:43,420 --> 00:55:44,940
most sense. And I think what people get

1600
00:55:44,940 --> 00:55:46,860
afraid of by that is sort of like

1601
00:55:46,860 --> 00:55:49,260
this almost too much freedom, which is an

1602
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:51,099
actually an interesting point in the conversation today.

1603
00:55:51,099 --> 00:55:52,380
There's so many people out there. I don't

1604
00:55:52,380 --> 00:55:53,420
mean that in a bad way. For me,

1605
00:55:53,420 --> 00:55:54,860
that's what I would want and most people

1606
00:55:54,860 --> 00:55:57,105
should. But there's people like, status minded people

1607
00:55:57,105 --> 00:55:59,025
that get, like, terrified of the idea that

1608
00:55:59,025 --> 00:56:00,785
they have to be responsible for their choices

1609
00:56:00,785 --> 00:56:02,805
or that they have to take more responsibility

1610
00:56:02,945 --> 00:56:04,785
or that there would be more possibilities like

1611
00:56:04,785 --> 00:56:06,305
that. And I think that that is sort

1612
00:56:06,305 --> 00:56:07,925
of the detriment to the propagandized

1613
00:56:08,305 --> 00:56:10,719
mindset is some people are almost afraid. Like,

1614
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,159
I think there's a portion of people that

1615
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:13,059
want to be ruled.

1616
00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:15,920
Oh, there is. A 100 a 100. Talking

1617
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,539
about. They want they wanna be led.

1618
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,920
And, by the way, that there's, you know,

1619
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,380
so there's there's a well understood,

1620
00:56:21,679 --> 00:56:22,819
you know, psychological

1621
00:56:23,505 --> 00:56:24,704
phenomenon called leaders,

1622
00:56:25,105 --> 00:56:26,724
evolutionary leadership theory.

1623
00:56:27,105 --> 00:56:28,944
And it says that, you know, that that

1624
00:56:28,944 --> 00:56:31,284
there's a an innate human desire

1625
00:56:31,904 --> 00:56:34,065
for a leader, and that this is, you

1626
00:56:34,065 --> 00:56:35,904
know, like, we're we're you know, we grew

1627
00:56:35,904 --> 00:56:38,065
up. We're tribal. You know, human beings are

1628
00:56:38,065 --> 00:56:38,724
are tribal.

1629
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:41,320
And there was it it was an advantage

1630
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,719
to having a strong leader. And so over

1631
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:45,820
time, it developed a kind of innate

1632
00:56:46,199 --> 00:56:46,699
desire

1633
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:49,579
in in in the majority of the population.

1634
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:51,820
The difference is if you are a leader,

1635
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,134
you don't necessarily need a leader. And so

1636
00:56:54,255 --> 00:56:56,114
but a lot of people, they aren't leaders,

1637
00:56:56,414 --> 00:56:58,655
so they really, really want a leader. And

1638
00:56:58,655 --> 00:57:01,795
so the organized crime system understands this behavioral

1639
00:57:02,014 --> 00:57:04,815
psychology, and so they present the population with

1640
00:57:04,815 --> 00:57:07,155
either a blue leader or red leader.

1641
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,820
And so you you get tricked into choosing

1642
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,539
government leader a or government leader b.

1643
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,160
You know, people people think, you know, like,

1644
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:16,680
they're worried about in a in a in

1645
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,239
a world without government, how that warlords would

1646
00:57:19,239 --> 00:57:19,980
take over.

1647
00:57:20,335 --> 00:57:21,155
Well, warlords

1648
00:57:21,775 --> 00:57:23,474
have already taken over.

1649
00:57:23,775 --> 00:57:25,315
They just pretend

1650
00:57:26,094 --> 00:57:27,635
to let you elect them.

1651
00:57:28,175 --> 00:57:30,035
They're they're literally pretending

1652
00:57:30,735 --> 00:57:32,735
that you elected them and that that's the

1653
00:57:32,735 --> 00:57:35,289
reason why they're in power. But they are

1654
00:57:35,289 --> 00:57:37,869
warlords, and they will kill, assassinate

1655
00:57:38,650 --> 00:57:40,589
whoever, you know, gets in their way.

1656
00:57:41,210 --> 00:57:43,130
You know, but it's but they they don't

1657
00:57:43,130 --> 00:57:45,289
do it a lot because then everybody sees

1658
00:57:45,289 --> 00:57:48,269
what's happening, and and it becomes obvious that

1659
00:57:48,585 --> 00:57:50,664
that, you know, like, what's what's going on.

1660
00:57:50,664 --> 00:57:52,184
But every once in a while, the whack

1661
00:57:52,184 --> 00:57:54,065
JFK, like, you know, the whack,

1662
00:57:56,344 --> 00:57:58,105
you know, one of their political puppets because

1663
00:57:58,105 --> 00:58:00,105
he's not going along with whatever they wanna

1664
00:58:00,105 --> 00:58:02,045
do or what with what what what another

1665
00:58:02,105 --> 00:58:03,405
faction in the power,

1666
00:58:04,650 --> 00:58:06,809
structure wants them to do. Yeah. I I

1667
00:58:06,809 --> 00:58:08,570
get back to the earlier point, I that's

1668
00:58:08,570 --> 00:58:11,369
what I think is largely shaking people free

1669
00:58:11,369 --> 00:58:13,609
from this kind of manipulation is that it's

1670
00:58:13,609 --> 00:58:16,844
on such full obvious display. The average soccer

1671
00:58:16,844 --> 00:58:18,364
mom out there that's never even thought about

1672
00:58:18,364 --> 00:58:20,045
this stuff is seeing dead children on her

1673
00:58:20,045 --> 00:58:21,644
feed, you know, it's like that. It's hard

1674
00:58:21,644 --> 00:58:22,844
for people to get past that. And I

1675
00:58:22,844 --> 00:58:24,364
think, you know, it's it's the kind of

1676
00:58:24,364 --> 00:58:26,525
belligerence of believing you have this control that

1677
00:58:26,525 --> 00:58:27,965
maybe more than you do, you know, and

1678
00:58:27,965 --> 00:58:30,849
that you're taking action that is, you know,

1679
00:58:30,909 --> 00:58:32,429
historically has been easy to get rid of

1680
00:58:32,429 --> 00:58:34,829
or deny or just sidestep. It's not happening

1681
00:58:34,829 --> 00:58:36,110
today. And I think that's all the things

1682
00:58:36,110 --> 00:58:37,809
we've discussed today kind of altogether.

1683
00:58:38,349 --> 00:58:39,710
So let let's end with a point that

1684
00:58:39,710 --> 00:58:41,390
I think is important as well. That one

1685
00:58:41,390 --> 00:58:42,750
thing I really like about your work is

1686
00:58:42,750 --> 00:58:44,349
that you you have a focus on one

1687
00:58:44,349 --> 00:58:46,215
of the questions that's, I think, right now,

1688
00:58:46,215 --> 00:58:48,315
more so than ever, clearly in everybody's minds.

1689
00:58:48,454 --> 00:58:50,615
How do we begin the transition? Right? How

1690
00:58:50,615 --> 00:58:52,375
do we make the transition from where we

1691
00:58:52,375 --> 00:58:53,894
are? And that's honestly one of the parts

1692
00:58:53,894 --> 00:58:56,454
that I struggle with because I, obviously, I

1693
00:58:56,454 --> 00:58:57,815
think we I I mean, I would say

1694
00:58:57,815 --> 00:58:59,255
I can see a path, but I think

1695
00:58:59,255 --> 00:59:00,715
most people don't understand,

1696
00:59:01,190 --> 00:59:02,950
like, who build the roads kind of questions,

1697
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:04,789
how to begin that point. I think there's

1698
00:59:04,789 --> 00:59:07,110
so many so much propagandized almost to the

1699
00:59:07,110 --> 00:59:09,590
cult level mentality that these people will fight

1700
00:59:09,590 --> 00:59:11,910
to defend the illusion. So to the question,

1701
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:13,430
how do we begin that transition? How do

1702
00:59:13,430 --> 00:59:14,550
we make the first step, and what do

1703
00:59:14,550 --> 00:59:15,585
you think that would be?

1704
00:59:16,065 --> 00:59:18,244
The first step is is getting together

1705
00:59:18,704 --> 00:59:22,065
with acknowledged experts and having them explain to

1706
00:59:22,065 --> 00:59:24,545
the population how that this could be done

1707
00:59:24,945 --> 00:59:26,164
Mhmm. And the illegitimacy

1708
00:59:26,784 --> 00:59:29,025
and the criminality of government, which is what

1709
00:59:29,025 --> 00:59:30,864
we're trying to do with Liberty on the

1710
00:59:30,864 --> 00:59:31,364
Rocks.

1711
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,280
And so, you know, one of the things

1712
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:35,039
that I like is is I like to

1713
00:59:35,039 --> 00:59:35,519
make,

1714
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,219
I like to make it fun.

1715
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,400
And so just to give everybody like, like,

1716
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,159
a like so that's the overall thing that

1717
00:59:42,159 --> 00:59:44,079
we're trying to do is we're trying to

1718
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,659
have some of the leading experts in law

1719
00:59:46,914 --> 00:59:48,214
and economics come

1720
00:59:48,594 --> 00:59:51,154
and begin to explain to the population, hey.

1721
00:59:51,154 --> 00:59:53,974
You don't really need government. Assage their fears

1722
00:59:54,275 --> 00:59:56,134
and explain what a better world,

1723
00:59:56,674 --> 00:59:59,494
would look like and the benefits of having,

1724
01:00:00,194 --> 01:00:02,070
you know, this this, this,

1725
01:00:02,949 --> 01:00:04,890
peace more peaceful way of organizing

1726
01:00:05,190 --> 01:00:05,690
society.

1727
01:00:06,789 --> 01:00:08,869
But we also want everybody to have a

1728
01:00:08,869 --> 01:00:09,610
good time.

1729
01:00:10,070 --> 01:00:13,269
And so, so on Saturday, November 2nd, you

1730
01:00:13,269 --> 01:00:15,510
know, we're going to be streaming this event

1731
01:00:15,510 --> 01:00:18,405
live. But on Friday night, we're opening it

1732
01:00:18,405 --> 01:00:20,005
up with, with a,

1733
01:00:20,724 --> 01:00:23,065
kind of the quintessential Sedona experience.

1734
01:00:23,605 --> 01:00:25,945
We're gonna have a a group guided meditation

1735
01:00:26,085 --> 01:00:28,485
around something called the bio charger, which amps

1736
01:00:28,485 --> 01:00:28,885
up,

1737
01:00:29,684 --> 01:00:30,885
intention and and,

1738
01:00:33,659 --> 01:00:34,159
supercharges

1739
01:00:34,780 --> 01:00:35,599
group meditations.

1740
01:00:35,980 --> 01:00:37,980
Nice. We're going to have a sound bath

1741
01:00:37,980 --> 01:00:40,960
by Peter Sterling, who's a world renowned harpist.

1742
01:00:41,260 --> 01:00:42,859
And then we're gonna have a party and

1743
01:00:42,859 --> 01:00:44,639
a concert with Grant Allman,

1744
01:00:45,579 --> 01:00:46,079
Presence.

1745
01:00:46,394 --> 01:00:49,594
Grant Presence Allman is, is headlining, but also,

1746
01:00:49,835 --> 01:00:52,635
Derek Bros and Larkin Rose are gonna be,

1747
01:00:52,954 --> 01:00:54,974
bringing their musical gifts as well.

1748
01:00:56,074 --> 01:00:58,715
And then on Sunday, we're gonna have a

1749
01:00:58,715 --> 01:01:01,079
fun day, and we're gonna take everybody out.

1750
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:03,414
We're gonna do some yoga on the rocks.

1751
01:01:03,414 --> 01:01:05,748
We're gonna have a have a group hike.

1752
01:01:05,748 --> 01:01:08,083
We're gonna have a group lunch. We're gonna

1753
01:01:08,083 --> 01:01:10,417
have a barbecue that night. And, really, we're

1754
01:01:10,417 --> 01:01:13,043
gonna begin, you know, come on out, meet

1755
01:01:13,043 --> 01:01:15,377
people, and understand that there is a a

1756
01:01:15,377 --> 01:01:17,744
liberty movement around you. The people are super

1757
01:01:17,744 --> 01:01:18,244
cool.

1758
01:01:18,864 --> 01:01:21,184
Everybody's having a good time. We try and

1759
01:01:21,184 --> 01:01:23,264
make it fun to resist. And the more

1760
01:01:23,264 --> 01:01:25,105
fun that we make it, then I I

1761
01:01:25,105 --> 01:01:26,625
think the more people that join us. And

1762
01:01:26,625 --> 01:01:27,984
so that's what we try and do when

1763
01:01:27,984 --> 01:01:30,059
we have these these events. I love it,

1764
01:01:30,059 --> 01:01:31,900
man. I really I think it's a powerful

1765
01:01:31,900 --> 01:01:33,200
thing. And, you know, and it gives

1766
01:01:33,660 --> 01:01:35,260
I think this is what we need more

1767
01:01:35,260 --> 01:01:37,180
of and, like, to emulate this idea and

1768
01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:39,180
and make it about the not just, like,

1769
01:01:39,180 --> 01:01:40,780
here's what you should learn and here's what

1770
01:01:40,780 --> 01:01:42,940
you should think, but actually the community part

1771
01:01:42,940 --> 01:01:44,054
of it, which I which is what I

1772
01:01:44,054 --> 01:01:46,054
think, you know, more obviously, more than, you

1773
01:01:46,054 --> 01:01:47,734
know, 2 days of the community, one of

1774
01:01:47,734 --> 01:01:49,414
the event. And I actually think this is

1775
01:01:49,414 --> 01:01:51,375
more the more of the importance. Obviously, the

1776
01:01:51,414 --> 01:01:52,614
all of this is very important, so I'm

1777
01:01:52,614 --> 01:01:54,614
really glad you're doing this. I I'll end

1778
01:01:54,614 --> 01:01:56,215
with one more question, actually. And I guess

1779
01:01:56,215 --> 01:01:57,840
to kind of extension of what we're saying,

1780
01:01:58,480 --> 01:01:59,300
is ultimately

1781
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,000
the average person out there that never heard

1782
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:03,519
any of this before. Right? This is the

1783
01:02:03,519 --> 01:02:05,280
first time I've ever heard these ideas and

1784
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:07,039
are going, okay, I wanna start doing this

1785
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:08,800
in my life. But, you know, they have

1786
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,175
a job or they pay taxes and they

1787
01:02:10,175 --> 01:02:11,534
vote, you know, and everything else. What would

1788
01:02:11,534 --> 01:02:13,295
be an easy beginning step for them in

1789
01:02:13,295 --> 01:02:14,815
your mind to to kind of begin their

1790
01:02:14,815 --> 01:02:15,875
journey in this path?

1791
01:02:16,734 --> 01:02:17,954
Start paying cash.

1792
01:02:18,734 --> 01:02:20,494
But like like my my number one thing

1793
01:02:20,494 --> 01:02:22,094
is that, you know, like the number one

1794
01:02:22,094 --> 01:02:23,934
thing that everybody can do is just pay

1795
01:02:23,934 --> 01:02:26,090
in cash and keep cash alive is to

1796
01:02:26,090 --> 01:02:27,949
try and keep us from being herded into

1797
01:02:28,170 --> 01:02:30,650
a central bank digital currency or a cashless

1798
01:02:30,650 --> 01:02:32,730
world where they can turn off people's ability

1799
01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:34,430
to to to buy and sell.

1800
01:02:35,130 --> 01:02:37,215
It's to turn off the television. It's to

1801
01:02:37,215 --> 01:02:39,295
get you know, to begin to educate yourself.

1802
01:02:39,295 --> 01:02:42,114
Just move 5% of your entertainment

1803
01:02:42,655 --> 01:02:43,555
into education.

1804
01:02:44,255 --> 01:02:47,055
Yeah. It's to get organized in real life.

1805
01:02:47,375 --> 01:02:47,875
Start

1806
01:02:48,255 --> 01:02:50,494
a a freedom sell. Start a a meetup

1807
01:02:50,494 --> 01:02:50,994
group.

1808
01:02:51,519 --> 01:02:54,000
Get together with your you know, with like

1809
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:54,900
minded people.

1810
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:57,700
Start a commute start a garden.

1811
01:02:58,079 --> 01:03:00,320
Buying your own food or, like, growing your

1812
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,420
own food is like pruning your own money.

1813
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,420
Mhmm. Start a community garden.

1814
01:03:05,765 --> 01:03:07,925
Those are just, like, a small handful of,

1815
01:03:07,925 --> 01:03:10,485
like, little bitty things that you can do

1816
01:03:10,485 --> 01:03:12,664
that are going to benefit you,

1817
01:03:15,364 --> 01:03:16,664
in you know, innumerably,

1818
01:03:17,525 --> 01:03:19,869
whether or not we're successful in the short

1819
01:03:19,869 --> 01:03:21,809
term, the medium term, or the long term,

1820
01:03:22,030 --> 01:03:24,349
all of those things are going to, to

1821
01:03:24,349 --> 01:03:25,409
be good for you.

1822
01:03:26,030 --> 01:03:28,210
Also, one more thing on paying in cash.

1823
01:03:28,670 --> 01:03:30,670
You're you're first of all, you're starving the

1824
01:03:30,670 --> 01:03:33,125
banks that are at the top of 1.5

1825
01:03:33,585 --> 01:03:34,324
to 2.5

1826
01:03:34,625 --> 01:03:36,164
percent on every transaction.

1827
01:03:36,785 --> 01:03:38,704
At the same time that you're making that

1828
01:03:38,704 --> 01:03:40,864
local, especially when you're doing business, you know,

1829
01:03:40,864 --> 01:03:44,085
locally, you're making that merchant an additional 1.5

1830
01:03:44,304 --> 01:03:45,684
to 2.5 percent.

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01:03:46,230 --> 01:03:47,449
And you're allowing

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the merchants to keep that money off of

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01:03:49,989 --> 01:03:50,650
the books.

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01:03:50,949 --> 01:03:52,949
So maybe they can afford a guitar lesson

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01:03:52,949 --> 01:03:54,949
for their son or daughter or, you know,

1836
01:03:54,949 --> 01:03:56,150
they can, you know,

1837
01:03:57,030 --> 01:03:59,190
put their kid into a school outside of

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01:03:59,190 --> 01:04:00,329
the government system.

1839
01:04:00,635 --> 01:04:02,474
The more money that we can keep in

1840
01:04:02,474 --> 01:04:04,714
the, in the local economy, the better. And

1841
01:04:04,714 --> 01:04:06,394
so these are some of my favorite things

1842
01:04:06,394 --> 01:04:08,554
they can do. Absolutely. Yeah. And it's a,

1843
01:04:08,554 --> 01:04:09,914
it's a great list to start. And I

1844
01:04:09,914 --> 01:04:11,994
would add one point to also, as he

1845
01:04:11,994 --> 01:04:15,000
highlighted before, immerse yourself in the community around

1846
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:17,400
those activities. Right? Learn from the people around

1847
01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,640
you and how they've grown and understand this

1848
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:21,400
because that's I mean, again, the communities, it

1849
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:23,480
is a very powerful part of this. So

1850
01:04:23,480 --> 01:04:24,840
thank you for for being here today and

1851
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:26,519
breaking this all down. I'm really looking forward

1852
01:04:26,519 --> 01:04:28,039
to the upcoming event. And I will say

1853
01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:29,505
here, make sure you don't miss the side

1854
01:04:29,505 --> 01:04:31,184
event that we're doing as well, which is

1855
01:04:31,184 --> 01:04:33,184
a kind of behind the scenes, which this

1856
01:04:33,184 --> 01:04:34,944
will be streamed through TLav, and I'll be

1857
01:04:34,944 --> 01:04:36,864
interviewing the people before they go on stage,

1858
01:04:36,864 --> 01:04:38,944
talking to the crowd. You'll probably see clips

1859
01:04:38,944 --> 01:04:40,704
of this very interview and different things throughout

1860
01:04:40,704 --> 01:04:42,065
the day. It'll be an all day event.

1861
01:04:42,065 --> 01:04:43,400
So I'm really looking forward to this and

1862
01:04:43,400 --> 01:04:45,000
honored to be a part of it. Anything

1863
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:46,119
else you wanna leave us with on the

1864
01:04:46,119 --> 01:04:47,880
way out? You know, other other upcoming events

1865
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:49,400
and just, kind of words of wisdom on

1866
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,260
the way out? Oh, I would say,

1867
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:53,340
the website is sedona.artofliberty.org.

1868
01:04:55,994 --> 01:04:57,514
And I've got a new book coming out,

1869
01:04:57,514 --> 01:04:58,654
like I said, Voluntarism,

1870
01:04:59,034 --> 01:05:01,914
How the Only ISM Fair for Everyone Leads

1871
01:05:01,914 --> 01:05:02,394
to,

1872
01:05:02,875 --> 01:05:05,855
Harmony, Prosperity, and Good Karma for All.

1873
01:05:06,234 --> 01:05:07,835
And so that's gonna really,

1874
01:05:08,315 --> 01:05:10,074
you know, kind of break down the how

1875
01:05:10,074 --> 01:05:12,420
you would do it in the same image

1876
01:05:12,420 --> 01:05:13,159
and visualization

1877
01:05:13,539 --> 01:05:16,099
rich format that, that I did with the

1878
01:05:16,099 --> 01:05:18,039
book government, the biggest scam in history.

1879
01:05:18,500 --> 01:05:19,000
Outstanding.

1880
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:20,820
Well, I highly recommend you all check it

1881
01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:22,199
out. I do think that people

1882
01:05:22,500 --> 01:05:24,755
are ready for this information, and it might

1883
01:05:24,755 --> 01:05:26,035
just kind of open your mind to what

1884
01:05:26,035 --> 01:05:28,114
you've always been thinking you needed. Right? I

1885
01:05:28,114 --> 01:05:29,355
think that's one of the problems is there

1886
01:05:29,355 --> 01:05:30,375
are people out there that

1887
01:05:30,675 --> 01:05:32,434
see all this. They recognize it's a problem,

1888
01:05:32,434 --> 01:05:33,095
but then

1889
01:05:33,555 --> 01:05:34,914
end up going, well, I'll vote for the

1890
01:05:34,914 --> 01:05:36,960
lesser of evil. Guess what? There's other paths

1891
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,079
that can be taken. And I think that's

1892
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:39,519
one of the earliest things to kinda reach

1893
01:05:39,519 --> 01:05:41,280
people with. So thank you, my friend, for

1894
01:05:41,280 --> 01:05:43,280
being here. And as always, everybody out there,

1895
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,179
question everything.

1896
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,880
Come to your own conclusions. Stay vigilant. How

1897
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,594
do you create a successful Liberty movement? How

1898
01:05:49,594 --> 01:05:51,194
do you create a successful Liberty community? So

1899
01:05:51,194 --> 01:05:53,434
I wanna welcome everybody to, to Liberty on

1900
01:05:53,434 --> 01:05:55,034
the Rocks. For those of you in the

1901
01:05:55,034 --> 01:05:56,815
audience unfamiliar with volunteerism,

1902
01:05:57,194 --> 01:05:59,295
it's the idea that all relations

1903
01:05:59,755 --> 01:06:00,574
between people

1904
01:06:01,034 --> 01:06:02,494
must be voluntary.

1905
01:06:02,875 --> 01:06:05,030
You can decide for yourself if you're a

1906
01:06:05,030 --> 01:06:07,230
fan of law and order. I am not.

1907
01:06:07,230 --> 01:06:09,170
I'm a big fan of voluntary,

1908
01:06:09,710 --> 01:06:10,849
peaceful order.

1909
01:06:11,390 --> 01:06:13,730
Our local government is executing

1910
01:06:14,110 --> 01:06:15,650
World Economic Forum

1911
01:06:16,349 --> 01:06:16,849
agendas

1912
01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:19,250
through the UN Sustainable

1913
01:06:19,974 --> 01:06:23,094
Development Goals. If you're voting for, advocating, or

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01:06:23,094 --> 01:06:25,494
supporting government, then you are number 1 voting

1915
01:06:25,494 --> 01:06:27,594
to rob your friends and neighbors who disagree.

1916
01:06:28,135 --> 01:06:28,954
You're advocating

1917
01:06:29,255 --> 01:06:31,355
violence as a solution to socioeconomic

1918
01:06:31,815 --> 01:06:32,315
problems,

1919
01:06:32,739 --> 01:06:33,559
and you're legitimizing

1920
01:06:34,019 --> 01:06:36,099
the system that is enslaving you. You know,

1921
01:06:36,099 --> 01:06:38,099
I'm trying to make an impact nationally and

1922
01:06:38,099 --> 01:06:39,619
internationally, but one of the things I do

1923
01:06:39,619 --> 01:06:40,980
wherever I go is I wanna make an

1924
01:06:40,980 --> 01:06:41,880
impact locally.

1925
01:06:42,180 --> 01:06:43,460
And so I got plugged in with a

1926
01:06:43,460 --> 01:06:45,380
local Liberty Group and I met a whole

1927
01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:47,855
bunch of really, really amazing people that were

1928
01:06:47,855 --> 01:06:50,734
already working towards Liberty and Sedona. Once you

1929
01:06:50,734 --> 01:06:52,815
see it, you can't unsee it. Then we

1930
01:06:52,815 --> 01:06:53,875
have a responsibility

1931
01:06:54,335 --> 01:06:56,574
to do something about it. They have to

1932
01:06:56,574 --> 01:06:58,574
frame it in such a way so that

1933
01:06:58,574 --> 01:06:59,474
the well intentioned

1934
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:00,779
good people

1935
01:07:01,559 --> 01:07:04,440
cheer for evil. No one gets to use

1936
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,319
violence or extortion on anyone else. No one

1937
01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:10,539
gets an exemption from morality, especially the government.

1938
01:07:10,679 --> 01:07:12,519
And no one gets the ring of power

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01:07:12,519 --> 01:07:14,380
because there isn't a ring of power.