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us today. A lot of lot of
interesting partisan conversations to get into today and
crowds of the Crowds strike conversation, the Trump
assassination. We actually had set a day
a couple weeks from now to talk about
a lot of stuff and we kinda bumped
it up because we wanted to get in
and talk about all this. So first off,
how are you today? Good to see you
back in. Thank you. I... I'm doing well.
Yeah. It's a it's been a whirlwind. Yeah
so much going on. Well, it's just never
stops. I know. Right?
And let us know on the chat in
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Looking forward to it. Yeah. But yeah long
We had a really interesting conversation last time.
The whole 2 party illusion overlap with a
lot of, you know, I... We got into
interesting, like, religious overt to. And 1 of
the things I was kind of interested in
in discussing today,
along with the 2 party illusion and the
different, you know, partisan narratives is the like
identification donald Trump. Mh. Or any... I mean,
this again, it's it's as much as it's
not the same
just drive from, like, the left per s.
It's a similar concept. Even... Interestingly enough. Like
you were talking about last time that it's
more so on that side like, humming god
yourself as some kind of, like, super preceding
concept. Anyway, I find that really fascinating. And
so I wanted to start today, what we're
generally gonna get into, as I said is
the crowds strike converse nation, what that it
relates to, we're gonna talk about the, Donald
Trump attempted the assassination and our different opinions
on that because courtney, and I haven't talked
about this yet.
And then start really with a 2 party
illusion conversation that overlaps with. Vance and these
different... And a great great interview with Whitney
Webb on the Jimmy Do show that I
wanna play a couple of clips about,
and,
you know, break breakdown why I think this
is such a threat. And it's it's really...
This sound is good awesome. Thanks for telling
us. I know it's something that we tend
to talk about a lot. But I mean,
I don't know. You tell me what you
think. I personally
other than the obvious. I find that the
conversation of the 2 party illusion and the
same point. Like, the deep, you know, looking
to somebody like a God. This is the
identification of Donald Trump or any other leader.
Is such an important and an alarming... It
gets worse every day. And applies both sides,
But I feel like it's something that we're
always talking about. You find it is relevant
and important as I do in this conversation?
Yeah. Well, I... I'm seeing as typically, You
know, it's it's a split. You got on
1 the 2 extremes. You got on 1
side, the people who drink think Trump's like
a messiah,
you know, he's gonna save us and,
you know, it it is like a identification.
And in some ways, at I think this
you know, I I do think it was
an assassination attempt, but I think the results...
That's of the evidence points for sure right
now. Yeah. I I mean, I know there
are people still arguing against back I get
you question. Right. But I agree with you
the evidence we have to follow. Right exactly.
Yeah. So it... That that is really what
the evidence indicates. And I I think the...
But the result does have the impact of,
you know, enhancing for some people, this kind
of justification. They're using that as a justification
for their belief think of the other side
where people think he's literally the antichrist. Right?
It's equally ridiculous. Which just... Yeah. It's so
ludicrous to me. I... I've just
he's human. Last time I checked, there were
no p perfect humans.
He's a politician. And I think I told
you last time where gia griffin how all
politicians are con. Right. You've never met a
Con man. You didn't trust. Right. Right. So
I... You know, I... I'm not 1 of
these. I'm not quite as polarized on Trump.
I'm not 1 of the people who thinks
Trump is, you know, the greatest thing but
ever off not planet Earth. I certainly don't
think he's a god or I'm.
Mh. But I'm also not 1 of these
people who thinks he's, like, a Deep state
Cabal and, you know, that was a double
ent time, I guess you.
But
but, you know, I don't think he's, like,
in on the evil sinister plans, you know,
like, he's just this man undeniable villain, the
antichrist so to speak. I think, you know,
he's done some good things. I think there's
some things I wish she didn't do that
I take great issue with.
But as far as, like, a
disrupt.
I I actually do think could given the
options that we have. Like, you know, if
we think that there is any power at
all in that position, And I also really
wanna drive this point home is that there...
And I think this is intentional. This kind
of the weight that is placed on the
president. Mh. And that is not how our
constitution is designed that is not how our
structure of government was designed at all. In
fact, the 3 ranches were
completely dia
and synthetic to that. I know, they were
created crude checks and balances.
Balances. So The president is not supposed to
be the dictator. He's not supposed to have
that much power. Right.
Do I think that, you know, he,
fundamentally loves America. He likes the founding principles
of America, and it is trying to do
something to preserve that.
I actually do
do. I think that he makes compromises
because when you're at that position, I don't
think you can possibly survive and mean, that
literally. Mh. As we just saw, you know,
if you don't. So... Yeah. You know, I
think we have to weigh all of these
things because, unfortunately, we don't live in Utopia,
and that with some people think that's not
possible in this 3 d realm, at least
not as far as I believe. Mh.
So I think we have to work with,
but that doesn't mean that we like, sit
back and say, oh, well, you know, we
trust the plan or God has it or...
Right. You know, what the paradigm that you
subscribe to is, you know, I think we
still have to do whatever it is that's
in our power. Mh. In order to, you
know, preserve the free will of and because
that's what I see is at stake. Yeah.
If if we found ourselves in a utopia
tomorrow, they'd be arguing about what type of
utopia chefs. You know, and... It's always... Some...
Everyone's gonna have their own opinions. Right?
Don't know if I if I share your
your... I would argue hopeful perspective of donald
trump. I... You know, But I... As I've
said, a thousand times I always hope the
people that perceive our rulers to be the
the savior or the person that's going to
change things in a better way. I hope
you're right. Always... I mean, I don't know
why anybody would hope otherwise. Right? But I
just think there's a lot of indication that
I I think shows that most of what
we're dealing with. And look, I could give
the point of potentially loving this country, but
maybe loving it for different reasons than I
think you might want, you know, the ability
to manipulate the way that they can through
the way our system is set up. But
either way, my point, I would think that
may act in many ways that would be
perceived on some sides to be in a
positive way. I find them all to be
opportunistic, politicians You know, and again, I hope
I'm wrong. I wanna go back to 1
point really quickly
that we... It overlaps what we talked about
last time. It's interesting. And we don't I
wanna go too hard on this because I'm...
I'll fall into this conversation. Like, it's it's
and inter... It's interesting. But the idea of
the Ag antichrist,
conversation or the savior. Yeah. Which is it's
interesting that we have
people on the right who see him as
the savior. And, I mean... And the reality,
this is not like a hyper, like, a
an analogy. There are people that are explicit.
About this God did this, God saved him,
god which that's to each your each person's
personal. I I hate I hate the overlap
paul. I frankly find that wrong in every
way. It's on a personal decision, you know,
he discussed with
overlapping in politics. I think mislead leads people.
But It's interesting that you have the idea
of donald Trump as the savior, and then
the other side of the Antichrist, but except
from a religious perspective, I was actually looking
for, like, the exact phrasing. The idea is
that the antichrist would present it as the
a living a person. Right? Right? And so
it's odd that they would lean into that
when it's not don't know. It just seems
kind of, like counterintuitive. I guess my larger
point is the willingness from either side to
overlook basic facts and what they believe to
to get what they want. Yeah. Well, I
actually think that it's an intentional style. Mh.
I do think the narratives are being dia.
Mh And the... You know, on the side
of... It's really interesting just taking, like, the
the the other narrative of the what I
believe it was the assassination attempt. There are
a lot of people who are saying no.
This was an inside staged event,
and you have to. Right? Right? Just say
then it's on the right and it was
staged like it's certainly multiple. A. So you
have kind of, like the, you know, kind
of q this kind of people who are
like, it was staged, but it's good because
he's a white hat. Right. This means he
is the messiah, and he's gonna save us.
He's got leap right there, But...
So you're have people saying right. You know,
this is, you know, a God plan and
this is all good because it's, you know,
it's about saving America, and that's gonna be
great for the world and You so you
have people who really believe that. And then
you have the people on the other side
who think that it was an inside, you
know, staged event that he was in on.
And that's because he's
you know, he's part of the Deep state,
and he's part of the cabal, and he's
here to bert from within, and so it's
just really interesting. You had these 2. Right?
Like, even from the same,
you know, take extracting from the same event,
and it's
prop
these narratives. And I I agree with you.
It's a very... It's it's fascinating.
I think it's kinda terrifying. Yes. It is.
But people, yeah, on both sides or are
falling right into it So... Yeah. I mean,
I do think it's by design. I I
do too. It's... It's interesting. The... You know,
it regardless of what they think the reality
is if Trump wins, they'll little high f
5 anyway and go forward like, on the
same side, even though it's, like, extremely,
like, counter intuitive arguments. Right? And what's what's
interesting though is that, you know, if... Is...
Like, going back to the or the the
main point along all of them is that,
you know, Trump good, America good. Right. You
know, And whatever the logic is why it
happened, It's all because, you know, which is
just... It seems counter to the facts in
my opinion. Like, if you just look like
the idea that if America is,
you know, controlling that's good for the world.
I mean, look at the history, that's not
true. Right? It's just that's simply not reality
and that's not because Americans don't want good
things is because our governments have pretended to
be what we want and did whatever the
hell they wanted. And I goes back as
far as you can look. Yeah. I I
would say because they've c with god forces.
Absolutely. Absolutely. And so it's this kind of
blind
desire to see the
hope
without, you know, it not, like, hope for
it, but to Manifest the hope over the
top of a situation that is not even
close to that. That's just... So and that's
what confuses... Worries me about all this. And
we... Where we'll talk about the a assassination
attempt because I'm I'm with you on on
where the evidence points But it it'd be
fun for us to get into some of
the nuances because there are some questions. And
my point is... I don't claim to have
the answers. Yeah. And a lot of questions
sense. A lot of anomalies and to your
point, a lot of the writers are pointing
about too, they may just have a different
perspective of what that adds up to. Right.
But, I mean, there's... It opinion nobody honest
an objective right now should be looking at
the kind of presented narrative as if that
just lines up because it just doesn't, and
that's not cons.
There are... I mean, you got people within
you know, even corporate media to some degree
kind of tangent or people within a law
enforcement, high level that are coming out and
going this doesn't make sense. Yeah. And we'll
we'll get into that. But so we started
about the
conversation of the 2 party illusion. And I
wanted to start with this point, which To
a quick point, the beginning overlaps with the
idea of the Trump assassination attempt,
which is interesting to me. Now, I wanna
to show this. That was interesting. I posted
on true social
about
my coverage on this. And I think that
was
this 1. I believe or know this 1
here.
Evidence Mounts showing official story on Trump shooting
is false. Again, they're not the safe stage
or anything, just simply objectively presenting it showing
the the what they're saying doesn't app, you
that you think it amounts to, that's, you
know, we can talk about that. Yeah. But
I posted that and then through social put
it behind a sensitive content warning, which I
felt very interesting.
Just thought that was fascinating. Because I mean,
I mean, again, it could be because they
think something's graphic. I'm not trying to jump
conclusions. But it seems kind of different than
what we're used to seeing. Oh, I just
thought this was funny. This guy is probably
because you're a L card vaccinated Biden kiss
ass, best my guess. It's the assumption. You
know, the the aggressive, you know it and
I I just used to A meme saying,
you thought wrong. Dude it from from a
back to the feature 3. Right. But it
even further going, but you probably got injected
more than once. And like this idea that
that you can't have these opinions or challenge
something that they hold sacred without having to
be on the other side of the paradigm.
And I think this is what both left
and right can't pass. If you support x
y and z, you're a mega supporting white
premise. Like, they just can't get past it.
Right. And I'm hoping that's less...
I think that's less than the majority right?
That's my personal opinion. I think there are
conservative and liberals that are starting to really
push back on these general perspectives, but they
still will lean to their sides, You know,
Mh. I think it's interesting. So that on
the idea of, kind of the Trump mindset,
I wanted to start with this clip that
Alex put out. And this gets into the
idea of Hillary Clinton,
the... I guess, rumor are going around that
she'll be replacing Joe Biden and even though
I don't see that verified anywhere, and the
point he makes in this about ending... I
think I think it's this clip about ending
Ukraine War about being sent by God. And
just kind of the points I just wanted
to start on, we can talk about it.
So let's listed this first only a minute
a half.
Alright.
Host is Saturday night,
and we saw the hill, all the news
reporting, Hillary Center replace, Joe Biden.
I called Rogers Stone. I called other sources.
They said, yeah, that's the word. They're really
gonna try to replace Joe by biden in
Chicago with Hillary, Clinton. With all of her
criminal activity, all of her background,
all of this. So they are literally involved
in a Democrat civil war, a power struggle
over what public gets control
Biden had a closed election. He had a
closed primary.
That was all rigged. He stole the election
4 years ago. Tried trouble ballot And now,
Hillary is swoop in to be the nominee
above big mike gavin news governor W.
Kamala kamala Harris all of this is huge.
It's all over the news. They're actually going
to try to do this is how arrogant
and crazy they are. So Hillary Clinton thinks
with a deep state behind her. That she's
gonna be there because they want her. She
wants World War 3 with Russia. She said
that. And trump says in the war. He
talks to Lunch today. A stop world War
3, we gotta get president trump elected, but
that warm monitoring evil monster Hillary thinks that
she is about to swoop in
and last minute, be the nominee and they
try to steal the election. It's not gonna
work or radical Trump we're an epic times
pray for Trump, pray for american pray of
the world. And I think Hillary gonna fail
again. She was gonna be the Madam President,
News week printed all the magazines. She was
the president. It's all a lie. Hillary Clinton,
you'll never be president.
Just like the neo cons and the pushes
and all of them. You're done. Your time
is over, America's is coming together. God bless
everybody. I'll be covering this all live at
real alex shows on x. Please fall jones
on x, the pray for american river piece
because this is dangerous.
And breaking news, Joe Biden drops out and
endorse Come kamala Harris.
Doesn't mean that that's gonna be the 1
that actually tips in funny enough. We literally
just... I got this text while that was
playing and popped it up. I just thought
the dollar, I wasn't that far ahead. But
what... What's interesting about this first and we
can come back... Well unless you got comments
that we just show this. Go ahead. Can
be can be un burden by what has
he?
I I just find this so interesting. And
so my... What I was gonna get into
to me... Yeah. What I was I was
gonna get into is the... Is the point
about you know, whole secret scroll sources and
all this, spoke to people who this is
gonna happen. You know, if there's a lot
of this that goes around. I mean, this
has been posted
on different sites. This has been a floated
concept. I just want... There's a lot of
people out there that will look to their
audio logs that will say this is gonna
happen. It kinda tapping into what might be.
There's a lot of this like, they're always
right kind of mindset. You know? And the
problem is that it's very easy to float
the things that you think, and then nobody
pays attention to the ones that don't actually
happen. Right? It's important first of all from
either side to see that because they exist
across the paradigm.
But so there's a lot of points in
there. Right? So just because by the way,
now that Joe Biden I'm... This is being
reported. It seems
by Cbs. So, again, that doesn't mean that
it's real, question corporate media too. As well
as the fact that because endorse come kamala
harris does not therefore mean that somebody else
might not get pushed in. Right. I quite
frankly think a hard sell for probably 1
of the most hated politicians in our needs
question brought. I was... I kept saying I
did not think they'd run her because I
just don't think you should like enough. I
mean, again, I guess that only matters if
we think the vote translate to the outcome,
but I think it's a perception matters Perception.
Yeah.
Well, before we go forward on someone's points.
I wanna to get into the idea of
being sent by god, you... Ending the Ukraine
war, all these different ideas. Let's just take
a quick look. I would just skim this
doesn't look, it's a little bit long to
see what it says in the beginning. But
president biden announced Sunday says is today that
he's dropping out of the race. Which is
isn't hilarious. We just talk for a second
about how dumb it is, that it's like
I said before where they go, I'm absolutely
not gonna run next year No matter what,
and then they later go, okay Fine Gotta
run. Even though that was always the plan.
Drop out before August seventh. Otherwise, he loses
3 swing states like automatically. Okay. Interesting. Like,
if he dropped out sorry. If he dropped
out later than August seventh. Like, if he's
gonna drop out it they they had to
do it before August seventh? Interesting. And so
what you are your thoughts on this? Do
you think this is this is
always the plan? Do you think this is
something that just happened they gave in or
like, where do you place this? Just at
your opinion? With Kamala? No No Just Biden
leaving. My point was getting to the back
up say it wasn't gonna happen. Yeah. I
think they've been building after it. I don't
think they would have let him do the
debate. Exactly. You know? Like they had planned
it. That that's kind of a little fore
foreshadowing and, like, no. This guy not quite
for prime time. Like know that that's their
way of, you know, foreshadowing is so you
can see
and set, you know, gonna set the tone.
I I think they wouldn't have left him
do the debate if they weren't planning to
take them out. I agree. I think that's
self evident. I mean, like, the idea, if
they if they take so much time to
pick, like, what color ties are gonna wear.
They think about the way that... You know,
and they I think this was about the
control demolition. And that's that's a very popular
opinion. That's easy to see. Yeah.
So
whether this was... I... You know, obviously, I
think that suggests that the idea was this
was something that was planned. And they wanted
to
show resistance for some reason. Like, no. We
don't wanna leave, but we have to... So
do you think that is? I... Well, I
do think there's genuine resistance from jail.
Yeah. I think Jill really wants him to
stay Real person powers. There's was the knee.
What well, I don't having much power, but
I think she she has a lot of
power. Yeah. Yeah. And at least the illusion
and the acc and, you know, whatever prestige
she thinks she's getting and the doctor that
isn't a doctor. Right. I I think she
actually really does want him to wanted him
to stay, stick it out,
do I think that the rest of the
party
No. I mean, I think he's he's a
puppet, and it's really obvious. I think part
of them even keeping him even this long
is a gas lighting mh American people.
And I think that the effect of that
gas lighting on both sides has real consequences
where they can control people because the the
people who are, you know, supporters
are are being, you know, their cognitive dissonance
has to go through the roof. Mh is
it's so obvious that he's not. Really in
charge. He barely in charge of his own
faculties.
And yeah. No. Sorry. This projected my head.
So do you think that that is more
of an indication. I think we agree agreed
on this last time that it seems a
lot of these things are almost being whether
it's the intent intention or not are clearly
driving support to Donald Trump. So would you
think of it as 1 more element of,
like, you know, like you're right? Because versus
everybody with a brain is going, come on.
Right. Clearly, he can't... So that makes you
go well... You know, why would I to
somebody. Else. So either our care trump, But...
It... I think it's driving polarization. Yeah. Choose
their intention because the people who are being
gas lit and who really support biden you
know, their their cognitive dissonance only increases. Yeah.
And so they have to eat their heels
in deeper. Mh. And so that creates more
friction between those who are, like, obvious. This
is obviously, this is a puppet, Like, you're
an idiot. Right. I'm not saying that. I'm
just, you know, like,
how people are engaging with each other. You
know. I'll call you United. If you're looking
at somebody can barely tie shoes and pretending
like he's making policy. You know? Yeah. Probably
not gonna happen. It's
yeah. It's a it's a bit naive. Yeah
just to put it politely...
Yeah. So, you know, the the people who
are saying who on 1 side are saying,
you know, yeah. You're an idiot, how could
do you believe that? Mh. But then the
other people who do or who have shown
support. I think they're gonna dig their yields
deeper, which creates polarity. And I think if
anything that the, you know, the parasite class
wants and thrive off of is the the
tension, the friction, the chaos,
you know, the splitting and the fighting. So
they they want people divided. If they could
get civil war, I I think they'd be
very pleased. I I think that the movie
civil war was.
A kind of
operational preparation of the environment to use a
military term.
I do think so that... Do I think
that they're gonna achieve it? I I certainly
hope not. And I don't actually really think
it's even leading
that far into that direction. Mh as much
as they want to portray it as being
so. Well, I they'd like it. Well, I
mean, I, you know, and you we well
know my opinion of the info wars of
the world in a different, you know, There's
plenty of good stuff to come through there,
but, let's see. I've kept highlighting
the clear push, he especially post assassination attempt.
1 of the main shows was, you know,
civil... You know,
info war and now Civil war. You know,
it's like, Where is that being picked up
from? Like, you could always argue this could
be leading civil a war. But after that,
it just... That seems like, I I don't
know felt, like, more kind of of the
same agenda did you get push that into
your mind civil war civil war. It seems
dangerous in my opinion. But Yeah. I think
I do think that that's interesting the movie.
Again, 1 of the another 1 was movies
that kind of seems to, like, have no
end and just kind of like, this just
series of propaganda pushes they're throughout there movies
and. Yeah. So I'll awful. Like, what's what's
the 1 with the Obama was made to
again?
Oh, the.
I forget now, but it was the 1
that just it was the world behind. Yeah.
That Yeah. Right. And it just seemed like
this 1 after another kind of, like, psychological
opposite. Like, Didn't have any, like, beginning or
end. It was like, this is strange You
know, And I I feel like, I I...
Most people seem to suggest that they felt
asleep during that movie, which makes you worry
it's like something more not a of programming.
Something's going on here, but Yeah. That's that's
interesting. Know So I definitely see that that
drive. Part of, like, not having a beginning,
not having an end, it does have the
h effect, and it also has as humans
we we want to create meaning out of
things. We don't like things that are just
random Right. Out of place out of contact.
So we fill in the gaps.
And that's part of, like, h not suggestion.
Yeah. Mh. And I I think that's the
purpose of that style. I personally hate it.
It leaves me kind of, like, angry and
frustrated.
Totally. What, Mean like... Hey. You robbed me.
Right. The whole point, not only the money
you pay to see
resolution. Yeah. Like, there's... And movies were supposed
to have some kind of conclusion to them.
That's how many plot goes. It's supposed something.
But you're right. Maybe there's a reason for
that. Keeps you like, in is unfinished...
The gap. You want tie the bow. Yeah.
And I think we we do that with...
And there's so much messaging
that we end up filling in the gap
with, and they'd who knows what subliminal programming
they do for us to do that? You
know, that's a really interesting point. And whether,
like, at what you subliminal all the things
as well. That's clearly involved, like, you... Even
if removing that. The simple idea of presenting
a a story
that doesn't seem to conclude, but in your
mind, you will piece together like the way
you might want to see that solved. And
you would, like, subconsciously feel, that's interesting. Whether
that drives you to then, like, act that
out in your life. That's that's an interesting
thought. I I think that's Yeah. That's kind
of what I think their intention is doing
that. That's fascinating.
Well, so that... So back to the point,
I wanna lure it really quickly just case
it jumps out of me. So he now
Sunday dropped out of the race, a seismic
event lead democrats scrambling to select their replacement.
Quote, while it has been my intention to
seek reelection. I believe it is the best
interest of the party in the country, me
to stand down and fully fulfilling my duties
for president. So what changed, Biden? Like, if
that's the case, what today suddenly made you
think different than yesterday. That we all It
wasn't... I think they knew this the whole
time. Right? Silly. Mister Biden said he would
address the nation later this week. I'm sure
that will be exciting. Shortly after the announced
meant, He endorsed vice president, come kamala Harris
for the nomination.
Nothing seems too gripping.
Never before as was sitting president with Presumptive
he dropped out of the race, so there's
a precedent at least or a, you know,
something you haven't seen before.
Decision underscore severity of the crisis that envelop
this campaign,
debate performance. Yeah. Right. You know, this is
so orchestrated. Like, obviously, he was it wasn't
the debate suddenly showed this. It was clear
long before that. But you guys know what...
My favorite line, I mean Trump is funny.
Yeah. He said... Oh, well, you know, I
don't really understand what he said, but I'm
not really sure he knows what he said.
Right. That was perfect.
Yeah. So I... We'll leave it there then,
but tell, it's interesting the timing though. So,
actually, for the sake of this conversation, it's
only. Let me play this again and it'll
we'll I'll stop it. Let's go over some
of these points. This is what Alex was
saying, yeah. I think this was,
the twentieth, which is yesterday.
Saturday and I.
And we saw the hill, all the news
reporting, Hillary Center replace Joe Biden. I called
Rogers Toyota. I called other sources. They said,
yeah. That the war. They're really gonna try
to replace Joe Biden in Chicago with Hillary
Clinton with all of her criminal activity, all
of her background,
all of this, so they if that happens,
then sure enough. Right? I'll be the first...
Yep. He was right. Right? We'll have to
wait and see how that goes. But what's
funny is you... She's 1 of many obvious
potential picks in people's minds. Michelle Obama comes
up. Nice Right. And so if you pick
any 1 of these and go my inside
sorts to say. You might as be right.
If you just think strategically. It's like the
revenge play. Mh. Right? Would that work though?
Like, I don't think Democrats like Hillary Clinton.
No. I... I'm not... But if you just
think, like cinematic. Right? You think
if if we're thinking, like, a football game,
kind of, like, here's the underdog is gonna
come back to see the revenge and Right.
This is gonna be the justice to serve
kind of... III can see them really playing
the narrative. I... I'm not saying I agree
with it. And I was saying I could
see how the right from screen rider or
they're just the general
air I think that I think the left.
Okay. I think the Democrats are gonna really
play this up. But if if if if
he's correct. If they do end up pushing
Hillary. Oh, I see what you mean, so
play it up if it happens, like, really
like the idea. Yeah. I I agree They're
revenge flag. Totally. Yeah. I'm I just stop
against Hillary. It's just don't see it as
being in any... Like, again. I'm the first
that's gonna say that I don't believe that
any of that matters. I think this is
a selected reality that we're being manipulated, but
nonetheless, you said the perception that I don't
see how that makes sense in any political
idea. Right? She was very unlike. I mean,
there's there's a core support for her. But
most people... Even on the Democrat side I
don't like her, there's a lot, a lot,
more than anybody
criminals
error around her. I mean, we saw the
Boston guys, however Long ago present, like, the
scathing presentation of pay to play. Then, by
the way nothing happened about. On either side,
by the way. But, you know, the the
hip kill the kill count, which is very
real. I mean, all these different haiti in
general, the crowd strike we're gonna get into
the overlap on the emails. I don't know
how in the world they would pretend that
that would logically make sense because you're gonna
see a lot of digging into the dirt.
Right. Aired out. So I don't... I find
this to be 1 of the most unlikely
possibilities, but hey, maybe he's right. I I
don't... I didn't personally think it was like
And I was kinda surprised he even said
that. But I can see how from a
story
storytelling
kind of Arc. Right? If you're within any
the theater mode and, like, for the 2
party illusion show, or that makes a good
story. That would kind of be the pinnacle.
You 2 party and And here's the populace
versus like this If that's the reality. I'm
kidding it. I... And you ain't talking to
me, like, digging into the dirt, but the
the reality is I'm always shocked by this,
but a lot of the ounces are not
digging into the dirt. Mh. A lot of
the ounces are still glued to the ass
the And they're just... You know, they're kind
of still in the fog.
I still have a hopeful feeling about the
overall picture that I think I think more
people that hung up. Yeah. Are not necessarily
wake everything, but just, you know, at the
very least confronting that cognitive distance rather wondering
why. This is uncomfortable. I'm not... Something's wrong.
That's a good thing. We should need to
capitalize. Oh, yeah. But I think I agree
with that. That's why we get such hard
push like this at this time from left
and right to try to grab them back
into the paradigm. That's what I would see
it as. I I interesting that. Yes.
They are literally involved in a Democrat civil
war, a power struggle over what public gets
control.
Biden had a closed election. He had a
closed primary.
That was all rigged. He stole the election.
For... So he needs a civil war within
the Democrat party. Yeah. Right. Okay. 4 years
ago, try to take troubles ballot. And now
Hillary is swoop in to be the nominee
above big mike Gavin news, governor W,
Kamala kamala Harris All missus is huge
It's all over the news. They're actually going
to try. And by the way, the news
is a a lot of...
I'll show you the, like, the supposed, which
I think Funny. Twitter actually fact checked him.
And said, no nope, it's all rumor. You
know, it's a Twitter of all places. It's
funny. But it's a all con... Yeah. Across...
Far I I looked into this all. And
I'm trying to find any definitive piece. It's
all, like, Clinton seems like the likely choice...
Stuff like that. Right. Like, so it's interesting
because, you know, what a great... Source Roger
stone is, because clearly he's the money called.
Must be the case. To do this is
how arrogant and crazy they are. So Hillary
Clinton thinks with the deep state behind her
that she's gonna be there because they want.
She wants World War 3 with Russia. She
said that. And Trump says he'll in the
war, he talks 1 today. For to stop
world war. We gotta get president Trump elected.
We're gonna talk about that next. Because I
think this is the 1 of the most
ridiculous concepts. All of this is based on
Trump saying he would edit 24 hours. With
nothing around that. Mh. It's it's like saying,
I have a plan. Right. Oh, good. You
got a plan. Like, there's nothing around that
plan just words it worries me that people
lean into those kind of things. You know?
Well, I think they leaning into it because
nobody else has even that plan.
It does He have a plan. He just
says he has a plan. My brain is
it's just in... Even have the intent the
desire. Does.
It's a bunch of words. I would argue
he does. Know you look...
Well, but if you look through... I mean,
his presidency,
he was never a proponent of war. I
mean, that I disagree. I... But III agree...
I know what you're saying though. The the
the perception and what's presented seems to suggest
that... I, I will give it at least
different than what we see on on the
other parts of the paradigm. But as I'll
play a couple in a minute from Whitney
at the same point, you know, that he,
you know, clearly tried to coup Venezuela, which
would have been under wars that have happened.
Assassinated Sole, which is a big deal and
that could have very easily spun out to
some larger war. I mean, Mean, sam somalia...
Yeah. There's a lot of stuff that happened
It's a it's a bit of a mis
to say that he was, like, a not
a war president and so on. But my
point is simply just about Ukraine that
I don't know why we would go. He
wants to do this. That... I mean, it
you... Biden, you can go on stage and
say something and then say, Biden wants this.
We don't know that. These are political don't.
I think...
I think you're giving kind of the masses
or hearing something, they're not hearing that at
all from anybody else. So even if he
doesn't have
even if he hadn't shown any evidence that
there is a clear thought out plan to
execute. Mh. Is is... He's at the saying
that and that nobody else is Fair enough.
Yeah. You know so but he also said
lock up. He said Jfk files is 09:11,
the Fed. I these things. Right? Get it.
But nobody else said. Yeah. Right. And it
worked for him. Right...
And you also don't... Go back to the
idea of how much howard does the president
have. Right? So this is not to, like,
over credit trump. This is just... But I
do think there's an element of, unfortunately, too
much power has been given to the executive
branch Absolutely. In reality,
even with the bloated except executive branch and
even with all these unconstitutional executive order They're
not dictators, even now. They don't have full
and that... You're still battling whether or not
you believe you know Trump is an insider
or you believe that he's fighting the deep
state the deep state, you know, whatever you
wanna call them. I call them the parasite
class. But, you know, if they still do
goals in an agenda. And so I I
can't imagine that even if you thought hypothetically,
which I don't. But if you did think
that he was a complete insider, he's just
there to moment their agenda. Mh.
He's not going... They're... They're not going to
let him just do everything that he wants.
He's going to have some resistance. 1 of
the theories on on the
assassination attempt was that. The same kind of,
like will let you be present again, but
you gotta stay in line. That's certainly 1
of... Told you when I went. I was
there January sixth. I didn't make it to
the capital because I was still listening to
him at the lip. Mh. But I had...
And, obviously, I can't prove this, but, you
know, I... It was such a strong intuitive
feeling, And I think I have told you
about this, but I he... The microphone didn't
work. It was like, 3 tries. Mh. And
the message I got was, like, this was
a signal to him. Like, you're not in
control. We are. Mh. And I saw... It
was just, like this look on his face
where he suddenly kinda froze up. And he's
such a, you know, confident, like, Is a
show man. Yeah. Know. Yeah. And it was
so strange to me. I mean, but it
was so clear. Mh. I really saw the
shift. And then suddenly, the microphone went on,
And, you know, again, this is pure speculation
It's just an intuitive gut feeling that I
had. It was such a strong reaction. Yeah.
So it would make sense to me that
that was a signal. Right? Hey. You know,
play ball with us. Otherwise, you're gone. That's
been 1 of my my personal opinion
for... That, you know, there's a lot of
different...
Varying...
You know, type options, let's say that I
think makes sense and why I think, 1
not 1 of them my mind is that
he's acting for your freedom and democracy. That's
my virtual opinion. But I think that, know,
unless it overlaps with his personal agenda. But
I think that, you know, 1 of the
many different possibilities
was just that that this is a guy
that is you know, a lot of same
with, like, a lot of the mainstream independent
media is that they... It's will for a
will ignorance. You know, they're getting funding, They
don't really wanna look at, how what ties
and whatnot. They don't wanna admit to themselves
that they might be compromised, but they, you
know, are through whatever. They get, you a
suggestion, but they don't personally outward know that
they kind of block it off. Know, the
idea that you could easily more than anything
abuse Trump's Hub. Yeah. That's embarrassing simple I
think And I think it's easy for an
entity to
make him think that he's the smartest guy
in the room And and that might be
that overlap where you he he did... He
was kind of wildcard card. He said the
thing, you know, we're there to take the
oil, you know, oh, can't say that out
loud. You know? Right? And kind of worn
him back, and that would make sense to
me, but I would still perceive that it's
not
in the interest of the American people. But
that's my personal opinion. But it's interesting to
think Well, I I've definitely agree about the
the hub. I I talked about the mice
Ras document.
I don't remember. So this is the the...
It's a Cia document. So you can pull
it off the I a dot gov, and
they... Mostly... So they don't say this. They
do say it came out of the Os.
But I I speculated it came out of
the war office selection boards, which was... Oh,
the document. But, well, did the strategy Okay.
So I I think... And that was, like,
a it was an arm of Ta during
during World war 2, Like came out of
operation Phoenix That you know, led to how
they were gonna select
officials in you know, in leaders in More
war 2. Mh. And then they, went on
to use this in military. Mh. And my
stands for,
money,
ideology. The c is a double ent. It's
coercion
and,
compromise. Mh. And then the ease ego. Mh.
And they were talking about how this is
the way to pick assets
people who could be change agents, people who
could be. Right. You know, leaders that would
serve their their means. Mh. And they said
they later switch it to Ras that that
was better. Mr ras is... I don't know
if I'm gonna remember Birds reciprocity.
I think authority,
the s is scarcity. Mh. L,
Yeah. In many cases, it's it's number personally
trait they can abuse. But the big... But
the the mice, the ego part, you know,
I always think of, you know, I think
that that's a huge
part of why Trump was a good can.
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I agree. I, I
think that's an easy to thing... We should
consider that with everybody. I mean, it it's
it's easy to manipulate people's traits like that.
I think that's a classic tactic. But, you
know, but my point back to the Ukraine
war was simply that I think that it's
you know, I I think that it's obvious
that the statement
could be taken however you wants to be
taken. And he's an expert at that. Of
laying it right down the middle and letting
everybody assume what he means by that. For
all, we know he we could... That meet...
Could mean he's gonna nuke Ukraine. You know
I mean? Like, it could mean anything. We're
gonna end it at 24 hour You know,
I personally don't think it means he's gonna
do something to end this in the way
that most people want, which is, you know,
I mean, those interesting is it it actually
divided even in the republican party. But This
gets the end of the discussion about what
Russia was actually... You know the legal realities
around it. The
prep the the the story behind it in
the first place with the Don ba and
the As movement in the Cia. And, you
know, this is not just some Russia bad
guy invading Ukraine reality. You know? And so
it's interesting. I personally think that
what this amounts to is... I mean, let's
put it this way. My prediction when he's
elected, Is he will continue funding Ukraine. That's
what I know. I really do. Because I've
I've already seen that. He's I've already stated
in a previous interview that he would continue
to fund Z.
Now he just kind floats it more in
the middle about ending it with a deal,
and that's what a lot of people seem
to wanna... They wanna believe that. And I
would do. But, well, I definitely got some
thoughts on that before that. I just wanna,
clarify. I just I found it. I feel
there. I I guess I pull this up
so often it came right up.
But so the first 1 is a...
They call it a reciprocal
diversification. So it's Reciprocity,
The second 1 is authority, and third 1
is scarcity.
Then it is a c is commitment and
consistency.
The c's always have double ent ton, I
guess. And then the l is liking,
And the s is social proof. Mh. I
honestly think the mice kind of covered it
all. It that basically says the same thing.
Yeah. Changed the name to something. I don't
know that they thought was more
palatable. Mh. But but I think that that's
that is how they pick them, and I
do think it came out of the war
off selection boards. But mh. So with Ukraine,
I think that is really interesting because so
they're doing these, you know, I've talked about
the Ai world society. Mh.
You talk about... They've they've done these symposium
on rebuilding Ukraine, and they say how Ukraine
is estimated by the war. We need to
send lots... Of support and funding over to
Ukraine.
So we can rebuild it, you know, we
tear down so we can build it back
better. Mh and There. The reason they want
to rebuild it is because of going to
be the central hub for all the Smart
City nodes around the world. And so it's
gonna be, you know, the main locust for
it's where all these other 15 minutes cities,
smart cities, C 40 cities, Right? Where they're
gonna connect to Interesting Ukraine. And the... Club
of Rome has talked about how they're gonna
use Ukraine for, like, the economic model. Mh.
And they've they've had wonderful discussion about, yes.
If this discussion where, you know, they they
appeal to the club of rome to help
them with their economic planning? And what is
their economic planning course is this, like, well
being,
economy. Mh. Which is all the sustainable, you
know, 17 sustainable and token customization.
So it's really all aligned with the Un,
w f agenda. Right. So I think that
still kind of compute with my theory on
Trump by. I feel like I personally,
you know, and this is just my thought,
obviously, I I don't know him personally. I'm
not privy on the inside. So I don't
know.
But I I think he would like to
resist against it. You know, it's possible. If
not for his own selfish reasons, but I
I actually do think it's because he cares
about the future of America, You know, he's
got a big family. If Mh. You know,
everybody loves somebody. And... You, from what I
can see he genuinely loves and cares about
his family and their future and Most more
criminals do.
Most humans really do more. Like Hitler loves
his dogs and nothing.
Yeah.
So I I do think that he would
like to resist it, but how much power
does he have to be
the wool work against that agenda?
That I don't know. And, ultimately,
you, Ukraine is a main thrust for them.
Yeah. I mean, it's a fair perspective. And
I... You know, we... Well, I hope you're
right. Right. I think the problem is it's
all kind of a dangerous,
but not that you're doing this, but within
the paradigm, they tend to... You know, it's
a dangerous assumption where you lay that over
it and the
implication is that he's doing this for this
reason and then when something comes out, there
goes well, there must be a narrative behind
it. Right As like assuming into what looks
otherwise like a problem,
what I'm saying, and that happens a lot
point though is that they have levers of
power over him. So I don't know. Even
if even if my...
Con is accurate. Even if I am right
that that's his intent. Mh. I don't know
how much power he's actually going to have
to execute those My point, though, and you
may be right. And and that that that
would completely fit with the way I've used
because he's, like, you know, God and the
messiah. I think that's good bad. But I
think the the point is that fits perfectly
with the way I perceived this broken system.
But my point is to assume that what
my... That's what I was trying to say.
Not that you're doing this, but that the
idea would then become. But well, he would
do it. They just won't let him. Right?
And that's, like the excuse for the entire
administration. Well, they would... Ask my my point
every time about this is that he's always
Obama would changed the world, but the republicans
wouldn't let him. And it's the same back
and forth, and it's like, well, it's very
at least can't acknowledge that means the system
will never work. No. We'll keep voting and
let's keep doing it.
III wouldn't I wouldn't say that's a hundred
percent accurate because I do think... And we've
seen it... Evidence of this. Like, mh I've
personally seen this. What remember we were talking
about last week with the Next the natural
Asset company Right? There was so much pushback.
Evidence Hold on. Blurry? Yeah. Waving our hands
around. There you go. Oh, there we sorry.
Out of my hand. I'm not a camera.
Talk of my hand.
I... You know, with the next, I... My
whole... I really... I had a defeat a
attitude. Like, I really thought that they were
just gonna push it through.
You know, that... My intention in trying to
corral people into,
submitting comments was not because I thought that
we were gonna get the proposal removed, which
is what happened. Mh. But it was because
they have the attorney general that made such
strong case that there was a legal standing,
for anybody submitted comments. And my thought was
we need so many people to submit comments
so that we have a mass, you know,
class action losses. Yeah. Yeah. And... But what
happened was they felt enough push pushback. Now,
I'm not saying they're not continuing to re
brand re tool and push this thing forward.
They are. But that did you derail them.
That did slow them down. Mh. So I
think it's... I wanna be really cautious about
taking kind of a, you know, defeat is,
like, the plan is... Set. We... You know,
nothing totally. On either side, Actually you know,
oh, yeah. Like, they're... He's on, he's gonna
save us or no like the... It's already
done. And, there's nothing we can do. So
even if, you know, regardless how you feel
about him, like, even if he took some...
Stance that do slow them down to me,
that's positive. Yeah. No. I mean, if if
that was the reality I agree, but I
think that that perception can be laid over
anything. And then it becomes well. You know
that it's sort of like, well, you would
wouldn't... If it's good thing you got the
shot because you would have been sicker. You
see my point.
Background I don't know what I know, but
I'm saying it becomes a from a dishonest
place or a wanting it to be placed.
You can lay that over everything.
I'm just saying, I I agree with you
What your point was really there is that
we should be questioning everything the entire time.
We shouldn't fall... Which... We've both agree on
hundred percent. Right? Just within the people that
are willing to kind of blind themselves to
what doesn't... You know, like we just talked
about at the beginning, I think that could
be a problem. But for someone like you
whose objective. Yeah. You know, I see my
difference there. I think that it's a problem.
You know? So let let let's finish this
real quick, and then we'll get into that
clip about...
I wanna play a clip about whitney web
talking about the same Ukraine work conversation, but
from a... As I would see at a
non partisan perspective, and I just wanna to
highlight how very different that feels. War mon
evil monster hillary.
Thinks that she is about to swoop in
and last minute be the nominee and they
try to steal the election. It's not gonna
work or radical Trump, an Epic Times pray
for Trump, pray for American prayer of the
world. And I think Hillary gonna fail again.
She was gonna be the Madam President News
week printed up paul the Magazines. She was
the president. It's all a lie. Hillary Clinton,
you'll never be president just like the Neo
cons and the bushes and all of them.
You're done. Your time is over, America's coming
together. God bless everybody. I'll be covering this
all live at real Alex shows on x.
Please follow at shows on x, but pray
for american pray for peace because this is
dangerous.
No.
So
said by God, Ukraine is gonna end, you
know, all the different stuff we were talking
about. So let let's this... I think it's
important to see. This is, you know, pretty
across the board, and I see a lot
of different for discussions. Oh, I thought this
was funny. Just, you know, like, not like
any of us should trust our...
Community notes... Whether elon and or not, I
think I've seen so many manipulation already, But
I think it's funny though that even in
that. He's, like, follows on Twitter, you know,
Alex on x Was leaning into the Twitter
side of this. And there, they are, you
know, going wrong. That's not true, which... As
far as I could tell, it was just
rumor.
Oh, and then I wanna play this because
I think this is hilarious. If you've seen
this. Just... And I want... This is such
a perfect
contrast. To...
Oh I forgot about this. Oh, that's not
important.
Let's do this next then. So there's a
perfect contrast to
what what what he's gonna lay out. Like,
it's just so cartoon to me. Like somebody
made this whole joke about, it was a
a, key and peel, caine peel. They said
Kane peel. That that show. Anyway, A skit
show,
about
this like a conversation where they were, like,
let's just get the hulk, and that'll solve
all our problems, and then it's just, like
they bring Whole Hogan in for the trump
band man. It just seems so artificial to
me. I don't know if you've seen this
to watch.
So all you criminals,
all you low life, all use sc bags,
all you drug dealers, and all you crooked
politicians
need to answer 1 question brother.
What you're gonna do when Donald Trump and
all the Trump man acts run wild on
new brother.
Now, unfortunately, I grab the... This is not
the 1, it's the same difference, but there's
1 re gets up there and anything rips
his shirt off like he classically did, and
it shows the Trump vance thing, and it's
like, you know, it's just all political promotion,
and it just feels so But, you know,
they went wild for it, You know, and
it just seems such... It's like a sitcom,
which is what a lot of people like
about it right now. They feel like it's
the best reality Tv show going on. Totally.
So it's such team sport politics. So on
that note?
I want my blank on his name, the
the Martial Arts guy. Which 1? There too.
I can't blame liking his name. Marshall guy.
Yeah. Oh, my gosh.
I really watch bunch of the r c
so.
Oh, it'll come to me. I can't believe
him blinking. Oh, Shout it out. You gotta
go too. I'm sure. Is it the same
kind of thing? Is it it's like a
little Gimmicky, kinda... Yeah. Yeah. Vote for this
because Hulk Hogan was there. Hey. You know,
it's like, it's not what we talk about
policy
Is... I mean, that in that way. It's
like, a football game I... Absolutely. That's exactly.
That's all equal 2 party illusion. Both of
them are just as ridiculous their own ways.
So here's Whitney webb I'm talking about, it's
I clip from the, oh, the,
interview, which Jimmy we door will play alone
clip in a minute. Just about her talking
about specifically the Ukraine aspect. Now, again, this
this whole interview Actually I'll just show you
this first, so you see the
the...
I guess I I'll just give you that
much information on the title, but it says
the d state man behind Jd Bands. Mind
blowing interview with Whitney Webb. That's Funny. Jimmy
always just so blown away by information. And
then just interview this article she put out
on unlimited hangout out, the man behind Trump's
v vp pick it's worse than you think.
I I think So. Yeah. I will say
that the Vp does not have that much
power. Oh, yeah. My concern with him is
a... And I know if you think Trump
is all in for the deep state, then
it's kind of irrelevant. But if you don't,
then I think it gives them even more
incentive to really assassinate because I think Vance
is a much easier pawn.
I think Yeah. A good point. Good point.
It's much easier for them to lead by
the nose and Yeah. Man they out there
listening to Republicans. I mean, this makes a
great point. What, after you watch all of
this, I think it might seem more likely.
You know, that that that would make more
sense than all the other conversations about Biden
and somebody else switching in because this is
what we'll get into now and her article
is fantastic. You know, it's a Peter T.
Pal, Paypal, Elon Musk this whole infrastructure that's
clearly supporting trump. Integral movement... The whole conversation
we had last week about be esophageal. Yeah.
Yeah. So the Claire integral, if that's definitely
relevant. And that's also they're all in on
the project 20 25. Yes. Which Trump distance
and himself from, but a lot of the
Republicans seem to think. You know, that's the...
They freeman as Trump's thing. I mean, it's
very... Like, they really do. And they present.
So it's in himself like, publicly several times.
Mh. He's like, this is not... And honestly,
most of the people who are backing it.
I don't think they've read it. This thing
is thou a thousand pages. I don't even
think they've. They've no what. It's cult. You
read it. It's it's credit... It's, you know,
I get it, the the main premise is,
you know, republican or whatever the word they
use. Like, yeah, the whole of our politics,
but doesn't that seem a little bit odd
of itself and then you read into it.
It gets a little bit... You know, it's
it's very... Well, what I really don't like
about it is it keeps credence to
the the narrative that the left actually portrays
the the right as being, You know, the
the the fascist, which we know both are
communist,
but lead to totalitarian Is you know I,
it was national socialist workers party for a
reason. You know, at the I I the
same At the same. That's think we talked
about 2 sides of the same problem. You
know? Yeah. And they intentionally created a dialect.
Yep you could fight against it we're the
good guy. Is there they're the bad guys.
Right. And when you look but when you
look at this project 20 25, it's so
authoritarian. Mh.
You know, like, even a lot of the
things they see they... That they're gonna do,
I'll, I'll tell... I mean, I haven't read
all that the page. But I have skimmed
it, which I think is more than most
people who are talking about it. Right. Politicians
included it. Right. Yeah. It's especially a politician.
But when I look through it. There are
a lot of things in there that I'd
personally love to see happen. Mh. You know,
that actually think would be wonderful. Like, if
I if I could just, you know, Wave
Magic Wand and say, like, this happened it
would great. But the way they wanna do
it is through the executive branch. And right.
This is unconstitutional. And if you claim to
be... I'm not saying you do. Like, you
claim to be a conservative, which a lot
of people on the right do. Mh. Then
you can't say, oh, we need these things
accomplished, and we don't care if it overrides
a constitution when it's doing what we want.
Right. Do you have to be a constitutional
and you have to go through the channels
that are viable through the constitution. And that's
my biggest problem with it So it gives
credence to this idea that the right are
actually fascist and.
Right. And what's it's the same part on,
again, on either side of this where, you
know, well, we have to break democracy to
save democracy. It's like the same stupid game
where it's, you know, what you're doing safe
Exactly. But you present you present yourself as,
you know, the good guy and the just
in the dialect, and then all of a
sudden, you are the 1 that is You
know, well, we're our, you know, 4 lauren
hero, I have to do it. You know,
that way we can get back to the
right way. That's all you're doing is rationalizing
your un... You know, illegal or Howard ends
up framing actions. Yeah. Because that's what you
want. And it's the same way either your
side. It's exactly the point you're making. And
it's it's it's
everywhere. Yeah. I mean, right now, more than
ever. I I... Let me actually play this
quick 1 first since this is Donald Trump
saying the Ukraine line. And so that you
get the context of what he's actually saying.
When do you give you Ukraine? What was
your by a crazy woman named Nancy. So
it starts where she's going... If she was
I hate her I hate all of corporate
media. And these be... You know, they're her
especially, I've seen some of the most ridiculous
things, but she's really pressing because it's a
very partisan narrative to highlight is, like, not
supporting Ukraine. Right? And she's... But she asked,
would you give weapons that he just will
not answer the question? And that's what he
always does is I'll would it I'll end
it in 24 hours. Like, well, that's not
really answering the question. And that doesn't that
seem suspicious to people, you know, like, you'll
see what you'll see what to I mean.
You give Ukraine weapon would you by a
crazy woman named Nancy But the question here
is would you give Ukraine weapons and funding
if you were? I would sit down let
let me just put it a way.
If I'm president, I will have that war
settled in 1 day, 24 hours.
How would you settle that more than that?
Because I'll meet with food. I'll meet with
the next. They both have weaknesses and they
both have strengths And within 24 hours that
war will be settled. It'll be over. It'll
be absolutely. Do you want you ukraine to
win this war?
I don't think in terms of winning and
losing. I think in terms of getting it
settled, so we stop killing all these people.
And do you believe that?
He should believe that? Like a jet really
Do you believe the statement he made right
there? Like that his point is, I don't
care about winning or losing? Does that sound
like a Donald Trump statement to you?
Well, it does sound like it all from
statement. I I mean, honestly,
I don't know. I mean, I'd like to
believe that I do. I hope Yeah Yeah.
I I mean, honestly, and because We've been
we've been, like, the... We've been put into
a paradigm, Mh believe that it is about
winning and losing. And when you look throughout
history,
Most of these wars that we're told we
won? We didn't really win. What does what
does it mean to win the war. Right.
Right? And how many of the wars have
been perpetual that really just went on and
there was no winning losing, and there there
was never any intention of even winning or
losing.
There was something completely altogether. And it really...
The 1 thing I will say about him.
Is he he thinks in terms of strategy
for business. Mh. And When you think about...
I I know geopolitical
isn't really the right words apparently, That's been
like, have more do like, mapping. But, you
know, for first purposes here, well we'll use
the term do you political strategy. Right? And
we... A lot of what happens with war
is much more about,
geopolitical
power.
And so in a way, it really is
kind of a business move. They're trying to
fit... The... It's various
of
entities
vying for power for Empire. Right? Right? That's
really what this is about. And so
I I know this sounds like I'm being
overly favorable to him. But just given his
background, the what I know. And again, I
don't know him personally. This is, you know,
just as an outsider watching this, and what
I know through my research of history
that actually kinda makes sense because the real
question isn't about winning and losing. Because that's
the that's a narrative they want us to
see. Oh, yeah. We in this war. We're
you know, we're this superpower or, you know,
with the the the bad guys 1, and
now we have to take it back. It's,
you know, it's all it's all narrative. Right.
When really, if you talk about settling, you
know, think about if you settle a a
lawsuit or you settle, like, a corporate case
Mh. What happens? It's not really a win
lose. It's, like, okay. We... We figured out
enough way... A way to appease enough people.
Right. And people, everybody got something. It's not
really a win for anybody necessarily. Right. Right.
Especially... People, but the... You're not gonna have,
like, the blood there anymore. You know, you're
not gonna bleed people dry. When you think
about it in corporate case, you know, is
it's in terms of money. In this case,
it's money, but it's also lives. Yeah... Yeah.
I mean it's a fair point, I just...
My point in is more specific than on
Trump. If you read his books if you
look at anything pre re creating himself as
a republican Christian Republican to run for the
presidency.
I mean, you people who actually read his
words. Mh. I don't believe the persona is
being presented as the president. Right? Is very
cut throat. Barry doesn't matter win lose. My
point is for him to say that, to
me personally seems counter to how he's been
prior to being president. Now, maybe he's changed.
Maybe being a president has opened his mind
to bigger things. I hope you're right. By
by I just don't believe that that if
first foremost is the way he sees the
world, But I could be wrong. And then
second,
that that answer is an... Is really kind
of a non answer in the context of
what they're driving... And, you make a great
point because clearly, that's what she's presenting.
When lou, That's all it is. And if
rejecting the premise... I get it. I get
it. But I just don't believe. I let
what we'll have to see is when this
comes to pass because I believe he'll be
in a position. And then and then see
how that actually plays out because I think
that he's already said before that he would
continue supporting Z. And maybe that changed. And
on top of that, we know that he's
been very clear about continuous sport israel in
the ongoing genocide. So I don't really feel
that it's about stopping killing lives. I think
there's something more to I think it's about
a wedge issue that's been created for this
election, and I think he just wants you
to believe what either side of it. Yeah,
I know A pe when it comes to
Paul In general, but Let's listen. Okay.
Break man.
What do you
Can I just follow up on that And
you said and you don't think do you
have to think? You have to
follow on that because that's a really excuse
me. Let me just there. Can you say
if you want Ukraine or whatever he wanted...
He does... I think he feels a whole
time like he's trying to evade the question.
That's what it feels like to me. Should
to win this war?
I want to ask me Do you want
Rush to win this work, I will also
say... I mean, you know... This is not
to play Partisan. I mean could really say
this about anybody in the mainstream media, but
it is Cnn.
And There's nobody what does you trust? Somebody
who is,
trying to frame him in a poor light?
Totally. So I think he's doing whatever he
can not to be trapped in their paradigm.
No. I get. Like, but it's the same
we've seen a lot of these discussions where
you know, like, right in the beginning, you
know, do you... Like, this is just from
the visual context. You know, do you can
demo them off? Like, kind of thing and
people just wouldn't answer it? I get it
because it's sort of like, attract the way
that we're trying to do it. Yeah. But
I think that if you were coming from
an honest first first, you know, a place
that... I think that... I know. Again, it's
all perception. All opinion. Just don't know how,
like, honest of place can you
be in a dishonest,
framework? Well, just state your opinion. Know, that's
what I that's what I wanna see. But
I think he did it by rejecting the
parent. But what what the question is is
more information. Right? Go further, elaborate. What do
you mean in 24 hours What are you
gonna do And I've never seen that fleshed
out? And now we get the sentiment that
kill end the war. Like, as a fact
being populated through all conversations. Even Jimmy brings
it up in the interview. Right Well, we
know he's gonna do this, and I'm like,
dang it. Like, I... I'm all for. I
hope you're right, but I just it's a
little bit naive for us to take a
bland middle to road statement from somebody's who's
been shown to do that a lot and
enough fall through as an absolute fact. That's
my... I don't think we should take it
as a fact. I don't know that this
would be the place where he's gonna flush
that out, and, you know. That's an actual
to you. Yeah. Because he... III agree. They're
very manipulative or, you know, the embodiment of
issues
right. Ukraine or Russia to win this war.
I want everybody to stop dying.
They're dying. Russians and ukraine. These manner are
so classic. It's just such a every exactly
what Pete is funny. Not not
he's he is funny. Yeah. Yeah. But but
it's so... You know, again, and know, And
again, I I get it that my perception,
garrett all of our perceptions will flavor the
way we see these things. Like, you know,
it just feels like.
Exactly... He is an expert at reading what
you want him to be. Yeah. And he...
And that's a... That perfect answer for people
that, like, yes. Stop the... We don't wanna
pick sides. We just wanted it to all
end, and I I just don't believe.
Master Show men. Yeah. I mean, there's no
doubt about that. I think that's a. Yeah.
Sorry. Instagram sensor our show today. Oh, I
point out every time now... Different Every single
days. I wanted to stop dying.
And I'll have that done I'll have that
done in 24 hours. I'll have it done
You need the power of the presidency to
do. Okay. So how about if then that
happens, and it doesn't happen in 24 hours.
Everyone's, well, they can't do it 24 hours.
That... Well, exactly how that always goes. Right?
It's a narrative that doesn't fall through, but
we'll, I hope you're right We'll see what
happens when it comes around
I think that the
actions will depend on what is in the
interest of their administration and their financial lenders
interest. That's what I would argue. We'll have
to wait and see. But so let's listen
to Whitney Webster discussion about this And this
is kind where this is all kind of
coming from my mind is that I think
it's personally pretty self evident that
right now, there we go. Right now that
the
2 party illusion is very... I think more
evident that it's I've ever been in my
opinion. Yeah. And I think that with Jd
Vance, this is where it gets into the
overlap with people in his administration that I
think it's easy to suggest that this will
go any direction, but ending conflict.
If it does end it will be redirected
somewhere else. Which is kinda like the Iran
conversation, Jd Dance came hot out of the
gate saying, go after Iran despite what previously
saying he would never do that. Right. So
you could sip yourself. Let's watch this clip
and we'll we'll comment on it.
Deal funded or founded companies or have, you
know, since Vance was, announced, have
essentially signal that they're all in on on
the Trump vance campaign. And this also includes
Palmer Lucky as well of the defense contractor,
And,
which is making
I'm a lot of unmanned drones and other,
you know, defense weapons. It's building our
virtual border wall on the Us Mexico border
that Trump supports. Instead of a physical barrier
that he used to campaign on. And they're
also
hugely involved in the Ukrainian console. So it's
possibility
of of, a second Trump administration winding down,
American Ad Ukraine. I think with feel in
the equation,
becomes questionable right away because,
clear view and pal itself ultimately intimately involved
with the Ukrainian military. As it relates to
the conflict with Russia. Well, so anything that
would see their contracts or their bottom line
as it relates to their.
Involvement in that conflict, I think it's unlikely
that it would whittle down significantly.
Just financial interest. Right? No no. Well, And
anita, sorry. It gave a hundred and 80000000
dollars.
I always do this with like, 10 second
half a second left alone. So if the
has the influence that is to be expected
in a second Trump So do you think
that that's already? Alright. I always do that,
and then it's, come back to it and
Tap a second. Okay. Go ahead.
Yeah. Well, Elon musk gave a hundred and
80000000 dollars Right? Like, a he's gonna pay
it out and in Yeah. Was, like, 40
something a month. Think 45000000 a month.
Yeah. But and it was to pick Shady
Vance. I mean, that was... Right. Right. And.
You got... You got the Over the overlap
hundred million. Like, all these interests that are
not lining up with trend in any kind
more. A Paypal, right teal. Right. Right. Long.
Yeah. I've actually brought up some of her
past articles on that in general. Like, well,
here's the 1 that we Recently did a
a show about this on the daily wrap
up. Pal joins the Gaza genocide, And this
was showing the same people, you know, in
regard to
right there. There's there's the
feel. There is... I... I'll forget. What is
this guy's name again?
I I forget now. But anyway, the point
is pal
themselves up with these wars overseas the same
thing going on with with Ukraine. And she
wrote this back into us 18. Gaza and
Ukraine. They've both been designated by the Ai
world societies to be major hubs. Right? So
III
don't think we can't even ignore that. Yeah.
Seems to be pretty. And you could easily
argue that this is something he may not
even be aware of, which would be pretty
embarrassing. Seeing is that it's very front facing,
but it's not possible that he just believes
they wanna support him and as says recognize
that all these interests are... You know, but...
It's just, like, last time, Well, it's it's
1 of 2 things. Right? Either... It's a...
That he... His hub is so great. That
he's like, yeah, They just love me and
they wanna us support me and, you. Just
talked about right track. And and so and
that's, you know, that's incredibly naive and he's
being sw, but by nature of his hub.
Or it's the other. That he fully knows.
Now if he fully knows, it could go
a couple of ways. He could fully know
and he could feel like, he has his
hand tied. I mean, you look at the
other option for Vp and they were they
were not so great. Well, so we're there,
would you argue that he doesn't have the
ability to pick he once?
Yeah. I mean, they they... I I believe
they've nearly tried to kill him. They... That
they tried to kill. Oh, in that way,
Okay. So you think that
that has his hands tied? So how do
we how do we possibly look at this,
like, it's in the interest of freedom? If
he's being driven by people who just try
to take his life to take that? I
see it is that I think he
I think he is... I think he does
have the interest of freedom at heart. That...
That's my personal take. And whether that is
self officially driven because he wants his family
to to thrive and, you know, whatever reason
it is or because he genuinely loves America.
I I don't know. I'm not touch saying
I can only sit from here.
But from where I'm sitting, I think he
genuinely does value freedom.
And I think though that
because he values freedom,
he...
I do also think he has his hands
tied. So I think he's He's trying to
do whatever he can that could possibly
derail or slow now. Okay. So just again,
So the question, and that... That makes sense,
but, like,
So that means we have somebody who is
effectively saddle by the deep state
and and making choices for him and that
he's trying to make it less for us.
So that's kind of the same I highly
anybody in that position is gonna be solved
by the... Yeah And so but that's what's
so interesting about this is so what... So
how do you make sense of the last
4 years you spent Was that just so
they won?
The Deep state?
I think they did. Okay. So then why
would we expect anything different now?
Well... Not that you're gonna answer all these
questions. I'm just saying, like it seems like
a fore gon conclusion that, like, I want
this to be the case? I wanted to
be the 1 fighting. But how can he
do that if he's already lost, you know,
in a sense. Because I think that we
but if you really believe we have free
will. That means every moment we get to
choose. Mh. And that means in every moment,
like, there... There's always possibility. Yeah. Right? And
I I firmly believe that. That's why I
value free will so much. And if you
look at... I I'm gonna go back to
the Next example. Just because. That's a know,
really tangible, and it was something I was
involved in. Mh. I'm not saying I take
credit for that. But I but I definitely
think I had a role. You know. I
I got a lot of people to submit
comments and, you know, get ordered out. And
I think it a ripple effect, you know,
not just me, but tons of other people.
And that's the power
of, you know, again, that doesn't mean we
won. I I made that really clear right
out positive effect for. It was a positive
effect. And that I made it really clear.
You know, I I do a whole show
saying, like, we need for remain vigilant. Mh.
You know, this... I don't want people to
take this as a assigned to be complacent.
However, I want people to recognize that this
means we do have some power. You look
throughout history, they write down their plans. Mh.
And this is why I keep showing the
plan because You know, even though I get
mocked and I'm like, peep... I I was
just last night with a group of people
in B. This is crazy talk. And. I'm
like show you all the documentation. Like, their
words, like, a horse's mouth. This isn't a
me infer or speculating when I speculate, I
tell you. I'm speculating. Right now. This is
just my intuition. I'll let you know when
it's speculation. But if I tell you, this
is the plan. That's because I read their
plans. Right. And but we looks about history
and their brands don't always come to fruition.
And you you wonder why. And oftentimes it...
It's a multitude of reasons. Sometimes it's because
you have competing factions who are both buying
for power. Mh. And you know, 1 side
ends up you know, winning in that that
battle. Right. And it it may not be
the the major
overarching plan that we have read because it
was another you know, faction vying for power,
and they succeeded. And sometimes it's the will
of the people, and it derailed their plan.
They had to rest restructure. They had to
you know, rec mean or re tool. And
so so I do think that there is
that possibility.
And
I I'm not saying that that means that
the deep deep that deep state doesn't have
levers of power over him. I think I'll
be super naive for us the thing, and
that would be unifying him. Like, he's just,
you know, imp any of there.
Well, I I see where you're and go
with that, But my point would simply be
that, you know, So let's tease this out.
So you have somebody in a position who
you think wants the best for the country,
but is... You know, and I got the
argument you're making would be that no matter
who got elected, they would be in that
position. Right? So this is the the controlling
phone or cult whatever you want, the, you
know, una elected power structure that is essentially
driving it. So, you know,
The argument would be if he stepped out
of line and did exactly what people want
that he would be taken out. Is that
what your theory just kind of, like playing
it out. Well, it depends on what it
is. Right. But so he... But he's acting
under the assumption that he has to play
it down a little bit in order to
get some good. He he's... Yeah. I think
he's acting under the assumption that he did...
There are compromises he will have to make.
Gosh. So just... You know, for me, it's
such a hard thing. Like, like, in in
the the guess the point would be in
the interest of maybe winning
against them in a long run. Right. Man.
I just, I mean, I I just don't...
I don't see how that could possibly end
at all, winning anything. I mean, I think
a really good analogy. If you think about
a Ceo and a company. Mh. Right? They
they may have their vision for what they
want, you know, a lot of Ceos, our
vision and so they may be very idealistic.
They've got these plans and And then you've
got
you know, you've got different corporate interests. You've
got more directors. Yeah. Board of director. You've
got potential investors are, like, hey. You come.
This way. I'm gonna give you this big
chunk of money
and gives it may go against either their
vision or their ethic sometime. Mh. And they
have to weigh these things out. And sometime,
just be hypothetical, and I'm not saying this
the right thing to do, but we're human.
You know, we deal with the the choices
that we have at hand, and the options
we see. And let's say somebody, you know,
takes their, like, okay. Well, I take this
big injection of money, I have to make
a little bit of a compromise here, but,
ultimately,
I'm gonna be able to do all this
good for the company for, you know, and
a lot of people who have company, it's
a that they have some element of mission.
It's not just, like money. You knew. Mh.
Whatever that may be, You know, they think
that whatever their product they're creating or their
and, whatever their business does, Their service, whatever
it may be, but it does some goods,
right? That that there's a need that they're
fulfilling. Right. And so you know, they may
be willing to take a bit of a
compromise
in order to see that fruition. Mh. And
I don't think it's... I mean, I would
argue we're a corporation. And Don't think a
fact. All the different. It's just much bigger
scale. Yeah. And so, yeah. Compromises everything unique.
I mean, it may... You could flush out.
It make it adds up, but I just
I don't know. I think that you know,
the problem is that it... This may just
be my willie unwillingness to. I think like
I've said many times in the past. I...
In in politics, I find the word compromise
to be a dirty word today. I I
just... Because of how easy it is to
be manipulated by other people's willingness to do
it in good faith, and then that gets
abused. Not that we shouldn't be willing to
compromise it a relationship in any relationship compromises
paramount. Right? But I think we're a position
now where we've been so lost. I just
think, you know, we're at, like, under that
analogy, you know, we're not talking about you
know, money, adjust money and interest We're talking
about human lives. We're talking about yeah wars.
We're talking about starvation tactics and occupation and
regime change. And so it's like, I mean,
do you use the word injection? Money. Right?
Yeah. What about the conversation of Covid and
more. You know, it's like, you could argue
when I had this conversation 1 was my
brother in back? We're
know, that he had to kinda do it
because he had to get what he could.
But at the end of the day, with
an amount to.
Millions and not billions of people being killed
I... You know, so it's like, you could
No No. Don't wanna not saying this to
you. I'm just saying, like, it's an interesting
perspective. And again, I I hope, I mean
I don't even know if I would hope
that's correct. Because at the end of the
day, it's sort of, like we will never
get past this. So it ends up amount
to the fact that the president is effectively
saddle by somebody, which maybe you're right. Maybe
that's it's always the case, And I kinda
think you're right. But that's not the way
it's being presented by their republican party and
the people that want in there, they want
people to have the illusion that they have
their power and then So why wouldn't we
just cannot out and say hear the reality.
Yeah. Know what I mean? I mean? I
just think that the dishonest I'm never okay
with. Even if it's... Because all that amounts
do is we're gonna lie you for your
interest? Is not like every other government action
we've seen? Well, yeah. I... And I'm I'm
not opposing that that's the the reality. I,
you're washington to warn just this and you
you may have your feelings about washington, but
he did. That was his whole farewell well
addressed. Right. You know, he warned us against
the... Having political parties
he warned about the, you know, it being
a loophole for a foreign entanglement and from
for subversion within,
you know, he didn't use the term, but
essentially, talking about the dialect. Right.
Many at many in fact. I... My I
might have been john. Adam, they I forget,
but warned about the exact conversation of the
parties and what that can do to this
country. Absolutely. Exactly. We ended up. We had
a lot of people warn us. Smelly butler.
You know, what are people that we just
fell right into it. Eisenhower, Jfk k. Yep.
Every 1 of the things they weren't about,
we have 45 times over now. Right? Yeah.
Well they new. Yeah. What's it's a very
interesting thought. You know, And I I think
it it opens up the door to a
different perspective that, you know, it's more milton
down the middle. But I also kinda see
how that could be abused by the power
structure. You, kinda of like... It is being
be. Right. Where it's like, well, we get
some good and some bad and it kinda
just we continue down the same path. It's
like, I wanna. To always progresses, and it
always moves left. Right. You know, that's even
if the person doing... Acting through it thinks
they can do it just enough to change
something in positive way, but it just counteract
racks back and forth. You know? It does,
but my my perspective is that... And this
may just me me being polly and, you
know, really overly hopeful, but I really do
believe in the the power of people. Mh
that, you know, the ingenuity of people. And
I I think that we can derail things.
And I think that there can be... It
doesn't mean that we stop the overall plan.
I don't I don't have the crystal ball.
You. I don't know you know, if you
come from biblical world and it's not for
me to tell people what to subscribe to.
But if you do, I mean, this is
all kind of... This is where it's gonna
go and, you know, Satan ruling the earth.
So
but I... That... That to me does it
mean that regardless of what you believe, it
doesn't mean we sit back and do nothing.
And it doesn't. It mean that we can't
effect some sort of change totally. Totally as
an individual. A hundred percent I think what...
And I don't think voting in this... In
the way it currently set up is 1
of those things should be. But I don't...
I think that's been taken from us. Yeah.
I, I think that's a... I mean, you
know, we're flushing out the unknown. You know
Yeah. But I I think that it's it's
a dangerous allowance because it it allows people
to keep thinking
that they're trying their best. Even though it
just ends up the same way back and
forth forever. You know? And maybe they wanna
try, I still think that... Like, let's put
it this way. If it were you. Mh.
Would you buy into that system? You know,
like, you're... You wanna run for president, and
you might have a chance to win? Would
you go... Would you kind of bow those
interests? Like, I'm not I mean, I'm not
taking in, like, that you might be assassinated
Like, just in a general sense. Like, would
you feel okay compromising in that way to
get something done? I think that the reality
of assassination very real. Mh. Like. So, you
know... That's why when I talk about levers
of power and situational pressures, you don't know
what people are up against totally. And I
I... Central Blackmail networks and all that stuff
we've talked. Yeah. And when you're in that
position, you know, I I'm not gonna say,
like, most important in the world or... You
know, but that's how it's presented. And I
I will argue it's a very, very powerful
position. And it's easy.
It it's a very... You're your... The scope
is very large. Mh. So the types of
situation, the types of
decisions that you have to make are much
bigger than, you know, most people face on
a day to day. Right. The consequences of
those actions. Mh. And so when you have
to weigh things out, like, You know, well,
if they... If this is gonna be a
choice that I make that may result in
my being killed, what does that mean for
god I just hate that lever is even
in there. Like, the idea that you're now
gonna compromise on what you think is right
because... And fair enough because you might be
killed. That looks like that's You know what...
But it not just be... You might be
killed, you know, what if the the levers
your children might be killed. Right. Right? And
for a lot of people, that is a
much greater.
I love her. I'm not gonna disagree. I
think you're a hundred percent right. I just
don't wanna accept the other side of that.
And I just don't accept that. If that
we... That we're gonna just play along because
they getting lot of our founding bother. And
I'm not saying they were, you know, perfect
Thus... They had last time I checked their
human, You know, And they certainly did a
lot made a lot of errors.
But a lot them took that position. They
said, you know, give me liberty or give
me death. Right? Right. And they did not
care. Some of them they even watched their
own children be tortured. Mh. And they said
the freedom
was more important. And this is in their
writing. Right I, I not I'm not even
same to that. Well... I I wouldn't... I
wanna I wanna say I would be capable.
I don't know. To sit there and let
that happen. I don't think I would be.
But I would agree with the premise. I
think that we're at a point in in
our society where we need liberty or death
at this point. That's where... And I'm not
advocating violence anyway. I'm using it as an
analogy. And I but Have the point being
is that we should be taking these hard
lines. And I... Good. I was just gonna
say, I I, you know, on, on premise,
I agree. Mh. You know, philosophically, I agree.
But I think that the
the dynamics of the world have changed
to where there there might be an element
where taking the death
this, you know? And now sense. Yeah. And
then, you know, like, that that option, you
know, being willing to stand for that potential.
Right. Might not have the the effect that
it had 200 years ago. Yeah. Very true.
Very true. Because we live in such a
different tank on.
That's a great point. Great your point. But
so let's bring this into the next point,
which is kinda where all that's coming from
is that, was great information. You know, and
that now that we do know that vance
and Trump are being aggressively funded by people
that are absolutely influencing that outcome, you could
see them as part of the deep state.
Right? And however if you wanna look at
it or not, But the end of the
day is Trump even the 1 that's effectively
making these choices if he's being driven by
all this stuff and compromising when that's necessary,
You know? And that... That's the worry. Let's
watch this we'll stop at any a moment.
Just let me know. Let's watch this clip
from today from Whitney and or not from
today, but posted for Whitney and Jimmy Do.
This has to do with kind of larger
premise of the article and a lot of
overlaps with, you know, both the points we've
moving before as well as I think, of
Cbd and a lot of interesting stuff here.
Sure.
The hallmarks of the neo khan is again,
con
the Us
national interest as it relates to foreign policy
with Israeli regional interest.
And they're not the same, a lot of
the time.
And, you know, with this israeli regional interest,
and they're they're not
And 1 of the hallmarks of the neo
cons is again, con
the Us national interest as it relates to
foreign policy with israeli regional interest. And they're
they're not the same. A lot of the
time.
And, you know, when it came... When it
comes to Richard Pearl and Peter T, it
was actually Richard Pearl who helped Peter T
set up pal
in the early 2 thousands with Alex Carp
and connected them with the Godfather of modern
surveillance, a man named John Po,
who created total information awareness and was previously,
the highest ranking member of the Reagan administration
to be convicted and
connection with the Iran Contra scandal. He was
convicted...
5 different felon. Right?
Yes.
And... But William Barr covered it all up
when he was attorney general, for Bush senior,
and he came back as attorney general under
Trump.
And
but what's important here is that,
during I iran contra, people like Point Dexter
as well as Oliver North, who returned
during the Trump administration to pitch,
Trump,
alongside Eric Prince with creating creating a private
Cia.
Great idea, just kidding.
But anyway, in I ran Contra, oliver North
and and Point extra and others created this
database called Main core.
Which contained the names of Americans who were
considered unfriendly and could be rounded up during
a vaguely defined national crisis that it would
include a widespread non nonviolent.
Against a military intervention abroad. So a massive
protest, for example, against a a Us foreign
war.
People could be rounded up and the constitution
could be suspended to put these Americans away.
So this is important. I just... Let me
do. So I... This is important. I wanna
I don't wanna breeze over this. So there's
a thing called Main core.
And this thing called Main core,
they've set. So Barack obama rep appealed H
corpus just so you know. Mh. Right? So
these all things go together. So what does
that mean Jimmy? So they don't they don't
even have to give you a trial.
If they want to lock you up, they
can just say you're a terrorist, and then
they could have what they call indefinite detention.
Thanks to Barack Obama,
and the 20 11
National defense authorization act section 10:21.
Now what... How this works with Main core
is tell people... Explain to people again, you
went a little fast. Explain to people again,
what main core is.
Main core is a database that was created
by the Iran contra people in the 19
eighties, but it still exists.
And
it contains
names of Americans who can be... Who are
deemed, quote unquote, unfriendly
by the national security state and can could
be rounded up or incarcerated during
national crisis. They actually said.
They actually send expected... Came up it came
up during the Iran contra hearings and the
hearings were shut down when Senator Jack brooks
tried to ask a question about that.
I I was that what that was?
Yes. Oh,
I such. So that was the Daniel Anyways
shut that down. This the senator from Hawaii.
Hawaii. Mh. He shut that down. Okay. So
now... The Miami Herald report about it actually,
because it involved Cheney and Rum failed as
well, even though they weren't officially in the
reagan and gonna So this was their collecting
names of Americans, and I'm sure someone like
me would be on that list.
And what they would do is this... If
something
they... You know, if they started a war,
and they wanna do... Very unpopular. That was
there was a financial crisis
They would just port they could just rep
paulson under Bush in 2008,
piloted the idea of declaring Martial law across
the country.
If the banks weren't bailed out. And they...
The same people. And they could throw people
in jail. They explicitly said this. Right? So
but Main corps,
didn't go away with Iran contra? How how
did it? What's the much the modern reinvent
invention of Main corps?
Yeah. So Main corps was
it is the database. Right? And it was
the same people that created that, which was
in use after 09:11 and as far as
we know, still exist, the last mainstream media
report on it was in 2008, And at
that point, it had 3000000 Americans on it.
And as far as we know it hasn't
gone away, so it's likely more. But the
same people that made that
made made this da
program called total information awareness or Tia. Right.
And the goal of Tia was to basically
combine with main core,
but, you know, through data mining,
not only decide who gets on on the
main or list, but also,
create sort of this per pre crime paradigm,
predictive policing. Pre crime. That they're really doing
this. So So this ti this Tia?
What does Tia stand for?
Total information awareness. Now was that a government
program. Was that originally a government program, but
it's not... Program. It's the Da program, but
now it's it's a... It pal doing this
Peter The? It's pal.
Yes. And what is what?
Don't. Tell people went Sorry. Yes. So total
information awareness was funded by Congress
not long after it was launched because,
every mainstream media outlet,
the Ac and organizations like it, across the
board said this will end privacy for Americans.
It's like it's
unconstitutional. So it was defined. Why? What did
it do? What did it do?
It sucked up, it was going to basically
spy on all Americans total information awareness. Right?
And,
decide
who was going to commit a crime before
it happens. Yes. Terror attacks before it happened,
bio even pandemics before they happened, which is
why a lot of the policies that originally
total information awareness proposed came back during the
Trump administration during Covid, and pal
was the contractor for all of those. What
do you know? And so immediately after this
was invented, you're right. All these,
all these organizations push back against it, so
they the government said, okay, we're not gonna
do anymore, but then pal
was like, well, we'll do it because we
don't have those
Go ahead. It's even worse than that. Didn't
exist yet. Pal Peter Teal created pal,
as total information awareness was getting into trouble
and experiencing the public backlash.
And as they were setting it up, they
used Richard Pearl to connect them with Point
Dexter who was running total information awareness.
About essentially p the program and having pal
or do with Tia for total information awareness
had intended to do.
And
total information awareness though at West housed and
Da was intimately
pushed and developed with Cia involvement.
Particularly the chief information officer of the Cia
at the time a guy named Alan Wade,
who was actually a business partner of Gh
Maxwell Sister, Christine Fun fact.
So like can I let me just real
again break in just 1 more so? Just
so people realize
the scope of what we're talking about because
this is really ominous. Right?
So... And this has been coming for a
long time and now Peter T and planetary
is at the forefront of this. And so
this did the
point
and a da program manager. This is from
your article.
Life log sought to... This is what they
sought to do. They sought to build a
database tracking a person's
entire existence.
That included an individual's
relationships and
communications, meaning phone calls, mail,
email, all plus their media consumption habits.
Their purchases
and much more in order to build a
digital record of, quote, everything an individual says,
sees
or does. Jeez.
Life...
Program was life log. They would... This is
life log. They would then take this unstructured
data
and organize it into discrete episodes or
snapshots while also mapping out relationships, memories,
events, and experiences.
This seems so elvis Huxley
crazy
futuristic, but it's not future. It's here now.
And they have these decades ago. And these...
And so the person in charge of this
right now or the person pushing it in
the private sex there would be Peter T.
And Peter T is now responsible for J
D Vance funding and now and getting J
Vance connected with Donald Trump and
for funding being a big fund of Donald
Trump and J D Vance campaign right now.
And so that's why this is all important.
Yeah. It's also important because pal is is
really a Cia front company. Right. So,
when they created it and and picked John
Po brain about how to earn total information
awareness to a private company.
Their first fund was the Cia in Q
tel, and the Cia was their only client
until 2008.
And between 2005
and 2009
of the top engineers at pal, according to
them, made over 200 visit to Cia headquarters
for them to develop their product. As far
as this pre crime stuff goes, I wanna
go back to, Trump's record when he was
president the first time after the El Paso
Walmart shooting,
Trump called on Big tech to sur its
users
and in order to identify
shooters before they can shoot before they go
away. So Was overt calling for pre crime.
At the same time, Bill Barr
legalized pre crime by creating a department of
Justice program called Deep that can't that actually
has arrested people for Facebook post. No. DEPD.
It's called yes. Mh. It's a real program
And it's still on the book.
The same time, he was trying to eliminate
encryption also or at least get a government
backdoor door into devices.
That use encryption. And then shortly thereafter,
Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner,
along with a close friend of Trump, who's
the former head of Nbc universal Bob Wright.
We're trying to get Trump to create a
new agency called Harp, a health da.
And the first program of that that they
pitched was called safe homes, which is an
acronym for something else.
And what they wanted to do there was
data mine,
American social media accounts, as well as extract
information from,
Amazon Echoes, Google Home, fitbit and Apple watches,
and run it through Ai to identify if
you've been saying,
something that shows early signs of neuro
violence.
And then based on that determine
you know, if you need to go to
a court ordered physician visit if you need
to be put under house arrest or anything
or put in preventative detention.
So... So this is something that they were
talking about back then, and even though Trump
allegedly loved the idea, He didn't make Harp,
but, you know, who made Harp,
Joe Biden did. He called it Arp h,
just moved the age to the end, but
it's the same program, the same people.
So our behind it. So this is a
bipartisan agenda.
To try and use our online activity against
us, and there needs to be awareness it
because it's really the only way we can
stop it. They have our data. They've had
our data, and they've been profiling us
with pal
I mean, they couldn't do it without pal
here. And, something needs to be said and
something needs to be done and the fact
that there's so many Trump supporters
backing this when they're likely, you know, make
up the bulk of the list, people that
own guns and, like, care about the constitution
and all the stuff are gonna be the
people.
That the the federal government doesn't like. And
if you look at the Biden administration's framework
for the war on domestic terror, which has
been developed by every
administrations in in the post 09:11.
Era,
they make it very clear that domestic terrorist
their definition of it includes people on the
left and the right. People that oppose all
forms of capitalism,
that includes the W favored stakeholder capitalism.
Or Cro capitalism,
anything in that, people that are extreme environmentalists,
people that oppose perceived government over reach.
All of this is considered
to enough to get you to be considered
a threat by the federal government. And this
is a national security state apparatus out of
control. And I would argue that, you know,
with with Trump and Jd Vance, they are
trying to sell themselves as anti establishment,
potentially libertarian.
And populist, and that is not what these
companies are. The fact that, Trump is taking
money from pal or should... In pal to
your c cofounder, whether it's Peter T Joe
Lo,
is very alarming and their potential influence on
on the vice presidential pick is also very
alarming.
Because if if anyone, if people care about
reigning in the surveillance state or stopping the
war and domestic terror.
They should be outraged by this because, ultimately,
what these campaigns are as a way to
s will dissent, and that's what they've been,
from the very beginning when you look back
at their
how it started, you know, during the I
iran contra era,
very alarming stuff. And so I think the
more people know about this the more we
can do to stop it.
I wonder if she would propose to stop
it. Well, yeah. Definitely I.
The elephant in the room. Because I think
that's actually part of the sub. I'm not
saying that everything she shed isn't true. I'm
very familiar with all of this, actually. I
mean, Yeah. Yeah. Actually, is that where we
get a Gps from. After
Yeah. I'm what think they're doing with the
Gps. Yeah Right. Right? So I mean, and
life log is Facebook, you know, you know,
it's literally and they go overboard to... Thousand
4. 1 of the things she add is
to take what you're were saying is that
ultimately, it comes down what I agree with
is to personal action, personal freedom, and, you
know, not hoping for somebody to save you
as a presidential candidate. You know, and that's
I would agree with that. But of it's
agree. It takes a lot to unpack in
regard to removing all these problems. But... Right.
It's it's very alarming to me what we
just talked about in in the overlap, you
know? Yeah. I mean, there's also just so
now you turn... You black everyone. You just
turn all the republicans against Trump too or
not even Republicans. Because at this point so
many of the people who are supporting Trump
or not again. Mh. And, you know, when
she made this firm, like, you know, the
populace, I would argue he is populous, whether
that, you know, what they understand,
you know, what that encompasses and what the
populous movement actually comprehend in terms of the,
you know, greater agenda, You know, that might
be a different conversation. But argue you hugh
He's a populist
choice at this point. The point was the
people that he's leaning in with are fundamentally
not. And so it's a question of whether
he may... It goes back to your point
about whether... Maybe maybe that's the, you know,
saddle part of it, and he has to.
And I... That's why I just can't even
get into that that speculation part. You know,
for me, it is at the end of
the day, these are counter... These are choices
that contradict
what we're being presented with. I think that's
important. Right. No. III think it doesn't bring
too, but so let's just say you take
them out out of the equation. Mh. And
then what?
I and I I mean that really earnest,
Like then what? So what where are easy...
I'm not saying, I don't believe he's messiah.
I don't believe he's gonna save us. Mh.
I I do believe this system is,
very much in many ways brake.
I do believe I know what their plans
are. All of these, you know, surveillance state
apparatus that are with the United States, are
designed to feed into the Ai world society.
Is why I keep talking about the Ai
world's society. It's very relevant. Mh. You know
when
or wall wrote his book. I mean, it
it wasn't just like some fig of his
imagination. I mean, he he was an insider.
He knew. Right. He knew what their plans
were. You know, there's a reason why when
you read these elite texts from a hundred
years ago, they talk about the techno democratic
takeover. You know, Elon Musk's grandfather, had deals
was He was the president of Techno Inc.
In 19 33. I probably mispronounce his name,
but I can look out the exact. But,
you know, he was the president of
Inc.
So, I mean, these these plans, these agendas
have been in the works for so long.
The technology has now just
caught up. Right. And it may now it's
possible. It's now possible for them to execute
their plans. So it it's a very real
concern. I mean, I just sat it, you
know, last night a group of people telling
them, you know, the... That the black bill
about Jd Vance, and, nobody really wanted to
hear it. They were in a very just
sw by the narrative, and he's this great
patriot.
I would say the Black hills wrong term
though because it's it's not that would imply
that we're doomed in a sense. Right? Where
I think you're just presenting the truth, which
I to that's a positive. But I think
the the problem is, I think part of
what happens with some of this information without
presenting an alternative is it does become a
black. But isn't that... Isn't that a trap
in itself? Like, I... The first step in
solving any problem is simply acknowledging we have
1, and a lot of these people have
yet to even acknowledge that. And so so
the problem becomes that we shouldn't need to
have a solution to be able to start
start trying to find the solution. Black You
I agree with you because I spend all
day every day. Right. Resent this information. Right
anybody who see my show knows that I
have over 500 episodes covering this type of
material. So, obviously, I agree with you. You
can't defeat a threat. You don't know who's
there. Right. Right. So I absolutely believe that
is the first start.
My concern though is for... If we have
this kind of decision situation people do just
turn against
you know,
Trump altogether. Right? And now it turn rand
both, You know, then what do we have?
What are we left with? Are we left
with some sort of, like, you know, violent
uprising? Are we... I would say we're left
with the hard cold reality. And this is
the same thing we just talked about. Right?
So here's... This is my perception. Yeah. As
you well know. Ladies and gentlemen, that I
don't believe your vote translates to the outcome.
So the point is we're stuck in this
false cycle of pretending like we're having an
effect on this. Like, the steering wheel on
Maggie Simpson in the car and the, you
know, opening the sensor. Like, we literally are
like, oh, man. We're, oh, yeah. We got
that guy in power. You know? And and
so the problem is
Until we can acknowledge that, we won't solve
that problem. And so my mindset is, I
not get to to frame it correctly from
my perspective, I'm not saying turn against anybody,
which need to acknowledge the reality. And I
don't believe that these people are fighting for
the interest of what you think you're fighting
for. And so if we can acknowledge that,
turn in whatever direction you like, when we
stand back and to... To address your question.
Am I I get in this conversation all
the time. Like, okay. So you don't think
our vote translates, and I... What else should
Do. Mh. My I I... First and foremost
we'll say, well, same point. I don't have
all the answers to what you would later
do By first point would be first, just
don't take the same action that has no
effect on the outcome. But there are other
things we can try to do. I don't...
I think voting is the least politically engaged
aspect of our entire political system, but the
point being first,
then what happens would be that we are
then faced with the reality. That this is
our actual government. That we don't have this
effect And so then we can see how
they go forward without our engagement, and the
point would be that that, you know, we're
at a dark time already. Now just be
clear, I'm not saying that I would hope
for that or that I want that to
be the reality. I hope I'm wrong. In
fact, but
I don't see the the positive side of
going through the motions because there's no other
option. Right? And we can have a whole
conversation. Maybe we should sometime about what we
would then do. Like, what would be the
alternatives, whether that's, you know, action in the
streets, and all... You know whatever people wanna
propose. But I would still argue no matter
what. If the cases is, we argue your
vote does not truly translate
simply go to that process because you don't
have another option, I think is the worst
decision. You know? I think that comes down
to things like extension, first and foremost. Which
is an actual voting option that they just
don't let you have anymore, which would be
an important step. The first... But you have
that. You're gonna have seen No. They don't
they don't tally it. It's not only ballots.
It doesn't actually count? So the point... A
vote absolutely... Yeah I'm not I'm not saying
just don't vote. That's not the same thing.
Abs extension isn't a vote. Right? Goes back
to the founding fathers. It goes back to
the reality of actually going, I have stain
as a public state, and it goes listed.
It gets tallied. It gets presented on screen.
45 extensions. Right? And so the point is
it can be either that you disagree with?
That's AAA
motion of civil dis
in sense? The civil descent. Yeah. Yeah. Right.
And so it can be that you just...
You don't think that the
presentation of the entire subject is even accurate
that you don't think the choice is presenting
or full picture. Right? So you go, no,
I I abs staying because I don't wanna
guess or no does not give you the
right answer. And so a lot of times
in the Un, both the Us or Russia
will abs obtain and it frame the way
he was like wants it to look. Right.
Really, like, half the time it's because they're
like, look, what you're presenting is not their
full picture. So I'm not even gonna engage.
So I think that's the right the right
way to look at that. But it's... This
is an important conversation. Yeah. But I will
always fall back on the idea that just
going through a broken system where you know
like, the same old statement. The only way
to win or not lose of Rig game
is to not play. Mh. You know? And
that... That's... It doesn't exactly encapsulate what we're
talking about, but I think that's the first
step. You know? Well, I I think we
shared tee out that conversation. Mh. I'll just
save in the quick form, though, I think
that there is a very big difference. Like,
if there were an option for extension. Mh.
That is very different than just opting out.
Absolutely. And I I actually... That I'm much
more open to.
Because it is a public statement and entity
still
exerting the the will of, you know, your
will.
You're making you're you're making a decision. You're
not just defeating. Right. Right. And I I
think that is a very different,
you know, that's that's just different than
altogether. Right. They're backing out. Doesn't say a
lot that we don't even even... And I
know you're if well informed about what this
is. Right? But even... Bringing it up in
this conversation that it's sort of, like, mis
as not even being involved. I think that's
part of the illusion. I'll include this article
I did about it a while back, why
you're vote no under recounts, the true power
extension. Always related to things like journal vacation.
Like, these are rights that have been taken
from us. Right. You were supposed to be
allowed as a jury to to collect and
go, you know what? We don't agree with
anything even the judge saying, we sit... You
know, and then you have the power to
super proceed the judge. Right. We... There was
a whole important story where a guy was
actually arrested on the sidewalk in from of
a courtroom.
On a public sidewalk part of it, holding
a sign that simply says learn your rights
about jury null notification. Any any just... And
he got arrested for it. Wow. Right? And,
you know, it's it's very interesting. But so
I think that's super important, you know, just
the understanding our different options. But so back
to back to the actual
conversation,
I think it's really... Like, right now, we
have this discussion with, like,
Israeli people protesting these Israeli war or alex
actually mentions, just simply disagreeing with a foreign
war. We saw that a lot during iraq.
Syria, the point now being with the people.
Yeah. We're going far as you wanna look
really. But right now, we see this really
aggressive ref reframe coming from the right. Right
now the right is the 1 asking people
to be censored asking for them to be
arrested, you know, because... Well, they're promoting janet
or promoting terrorism or how they frame it,
but so too were the people pushing back
against the iraq war. Mh. They are... They
called Nelson Mandela terrorists went 2008 because they
they were the enemy of the current agenda.
And it's always how it goes. So I
think it's important to think about is that
it's just this flip flop narrative and they're
using in my opinion And kinda like we
just talked about, the right in a way
to convince the... You know, now you're all
pushing for digital Ids or whenever it ends
up being, it's the good. Well, they're working
very hard through the right currently. Mh. I
think they've had some success through the left
Yeah. You know, And I know, we talk
about the left being a false paradigm, and
it's a true party illusion. However, there is,
you know, the ideology. If we if we
look at from at it from philosophical roots.
Mh. And this is why I always say
the dialect progresses left. It always goes left.
So they're... They've had so much success in
moving the spiral in that direction. Mh. But
now, I think it's so important. And that
that shows you where we're at. I think
that's a very good indicator of where things
are at in the
the great scheme of things is that they
are feeling like they're... They have to attack
the right. They have to get the right
on board. And I think it's part of
why they're they're doing so many days isn't
just a una power. The The Yeah. And
the parasite class, that's the powers that be
powers that shouldn't be. Yeah. You know,
but I think that they've they've done a
lot of splinter within the right. Mh. The...
It's not that the left isn't being si
up, but I would argue the left is
fallen for so many si already.
And they've been really successful with those z
right now, the the target audience really is
the right. That makes sense because I've said
this many times. I mean, they're as as
even she framed it, the that garner the
constitutional is. You know people that believe in
the foundational documentation. Created this funny pot, and
those are the people they're gonna go sure
That too. But I mean, I would simply
say that whether to come after you or
not for the right things, believe in the
right things. But I I think that at
the end of the day, it's what you're
saying is that they're more of threat. Like,
they were or... I said this during Covid
19 illusion that Obviously, the most
resistant to all these things where, you know,
people believe the constitution driven involving the bodily
autonomy. And then you just see the narrative
flipped, like we talked about, whether it's protesters
or, like, I pointed out with the second
amendment conversation. And suddenly the trans people will
not them, though. That you not, you know,
well show up being infringe. It's is a
pretty basic statement. You know. And so just
you can see them working their way in
to those ideologies and would argue that most
people, like, not blindly at the top of
the kind of team sport politics game. Mh.
We're like, hold on. You know, like, I
agree if those people are dangerous, but it's
like, you... They sense that it's being... There's
a contradiction there. And I think that that
is why this has become so aggressive. I
don't think it's working as much as they
want it to. And I'm talking about specifically
the conservative side of. But I agree with
you. I think it's because they are the
most resistant to what overall seems to be
happening. Yeah. But that goes back to things
like the save backs. That I argue was
a trojan horse for digital Id. Right And
so you same thing. Just be aware, guys.
I think they're trying to manipulate you for
obvious reasons. Yeah. I think that's why they
try to frame them as the, you know,
whatever, the overlap with the Odds movement. The
white supremacists, nazi threat of the republicans, and
that's why I think 1 of those pushes
were, you know, into. You know... They're
Know people don't like the charm, there is
an overt 10 window that and they intentionally
design the overt twin window. And so if
people get very trapped in that the the
conversation that is the acceptable or the focus,
the the primal
conversation of the time. When you need to
really look at what is their end goal.
And I mean, their end goal is, and
she she did lay this out that she
framed it very much within the, you know,
United states military apparatus. I would argue this
is a... And they they've always done this.
They've used the United States as the public
front for it. That's very much her opinion
them. The supernatural national entity. Yeah. It's definitely
a supernatural national entry entity, and I didn't
see the whole. Oh, yeah Just locked out
of it. Yeah. You. So so just to,
you know, make that, you know, for people
to understand that in context since so that
was out of context. This is very much
a supernatural national
the... And their goals, but they use the
United States and they use the United States
military apparatus as the front for. Right.
This digital surveillance. All the more, the worried
to have a deep state str
leadership. Mh. You, in any context, left You
know, because then you're being driven to the
same thing. That's why I think my worry
there in that kind of all back circle
is vance
Elon theo.
Adults and all these different levels of influence
that are, like, predominantly they're funding right now.
Like she pointed out, like, pal being a
Cia front. Pal is the company that is
doing all these surveillance and Americans overlap with
the whole big problem, and that is that
yield. So and they are the deep state.
I mean, that's that be the best overlapping
analogy to look at these intelligence apparatus. And
even the right thinks that. Well, yeah. I
mean, what
What do we do about Facebook?
Well, I not I'm... Again, I'm this isn't
about... Like, this right now is just trying
to wake people up to the reality that
I don't think what's being presented that the
whole ra ra, right Trump vance thing is
very dangerous because these bull...
Just like last time. I said it then,
Bolton, Pompeo
bar. These were not the people that were
the ain't draining the swamp. Right? As I
think Jenny said on his show his joke
was that, you know, he try... He drained
the swamp and then found his cabinet at
the bottom. Right? And the point is their
the embodiment of the problem and then we've
gone back and everyone but 1 by 1
that became enemy of Trump. Right? So it's
like, we're now back in the same position
and the same things happening all over again.
Yep that's my worry. And, yes, we should
discuss solutions, but for crying out loud, the
people that are gonna be putting this person
whether perception or not in power, they are
the the ones that need to lead this
charge.
I think a lot of them are. I'm
seeing a lot of conservatives stand up and
go time out.
Techno,
world economic forum. Yeah. You know, with the
problems that the Sai up around Twitter and
Elon has been so powerful on the right.
Oh, that they're all blinded by that. That's,
you know, And that's the point is that
Elon
that's what she pointed out encryption and
verification. It's a janet mining.
I I set it over and over.
You have. And that's that's the bigger problem.
Is it all feeds into each other. Yeah.
Now, again, I hope the point is that
he'll be able to drive it away from
that, but I think everything points our direction...
Thing that he will,
Trump not... But again, I told you, I
think part of the
incentive for vance makes it that much more
likely that they will really try and
succeed an assassination on Trump, because if he
is any
potential to derail, even if it's just optics.
I mean, let's just even go with that.
Like, even if you had the optics objects
of
slowing down or being against some sort of
a resistance, that alone has some sort of
weight. And I think that's Vance is gonna
be a great puppet for them. So Yeah.
You know... And people are already on the
the the quote unquote right are already champion
vance for, you know, president. He's gonna be
the next 1. He's... And yeah. I mean,
I... It's worrisome. And, yeah, you have this
out. Right? Like, you said earlier, you talked
about it in your group and, you know
Talked about it online publicly. I've talked to
privately because, you know, you you tried to
this you again. You know. Yeah. So much
for this yeah. Right. And, you know, it
it's it's funny that you'd be resistant to
it. There's a lot of evidence to it.
You know, I... But I I think people
just don't want to shatter those illusions. And
that's that's the hardest part with the way
this all works. But what let's talk about
the the overlap there because that the the
Trump assassination discussion,
it's it's important in all this. Which if
you're... If what you're saying, you know, if
this was which I believe the evidence points
to it at a genuine
assassination attempt, then clearly,
that you know, assuming the point being that
it was AAA missed attempt. They're not like
a warning. Right. Or even if it was,
I guess the same point that maybe that
would be the next step. It's hard to
do a misty. I'm sorry. Well, it depends
on how you think it actually went down.
But trust me I'm on your side in
regard to the evans. I'm just... I'm being
objective there. I still argue... Like, you know,
train marks or anything. But like to miss
by that much. I'm sorry. It could be
something that was involving him. I don't think
that. I'm just saying there are other opinions
out there where it's you said, even the
queue side of this and and the Republican
side. And they've got all sorts of crazy
errors about how it was a blood packet,
and it was all fake. I don't... I
think the evidence has been clearly opposite. But
there's no questions. But what, let's get into
it. At least some of the bigger points.
Sure. But I just think that's important to
think about is that what you're saying is
that it might end being
the fulfillment of what the attempt was because
Vance is, like a picture perfect puppet to
step in. Yes. That's concerning. That's concerning. It's
they're concerning to. So let... Let's actually first
since we... We we I had a good
conversation about at to start. We were gonna
talk about the crowds strike a little bit.
Let's just rapidly... Crowds strike is a very
relevant.
It is. Okay. Go. If you want... Go
ahead. I was just gonna say... I mean,
I do see that as kind of like
signal, you know, Poly a cyber poly type
of learning, a beta test perhaps.
And I do think it's very relevant. I
think that people need to pay attention to
the possibility.
You know, they they tell us their plans
and schwab, even though I think he's a
front man. And he's very much warned us
about the cyber poly, the E p attacks
that are possible. Mh. And I I think
that you know, people who are thinking, like,
you know, they're not thinking. They're, you know,
in their 15 minutes cities, they're smart cities,
they could really be,
completely
into a digital present. Mh. Yeah. Or locked
out. I mean, that that's the other possibility
to too you. I think that they're you
know, also trying to push people who are,
you know, could they try to split. And
so I think there... Some people were growing
like, the off grid kind of. Mh. And
that those people will be completely locked out
of society. There'll be no kind of inter
Yeah. Weaving. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm obviously
share the concerns about all those directions. I
just... Right now, I'm most worried again about
how
different variations of the narrative are driving a
lot of the right to now some way
support that. And that without knowing it. You
know? Like, and that that's the way this
always works. Right? The kind of of the
both. And so the... This this is an
important conversation because I would overlaps. But I
was just gonna highlight that this... That with
crowds strike in the news due to global
outage remember that it's part of a the
global cyber alliance, Part of the W f
led effort to force you to adopt digital
Ids for Internet access. Yeah. And Whitney wrote
this article for T Lab in 20 21,
at this this 1 here, you guys can
read that, check it out ending anonymity why
the We
partnership against Cyber crime threatens the future privacy.
Also wrote this 1 earlier than that. This
1 is in 20 21 January. And this
interesting. This is another example of where Crowds
strike already came into play. Another mega group
says scandal or spy scandal and it was
like, I forgot to pronounce the pronunciation was
it some Sam with the company.
It basically, got... Is a company that was
used around,
solar winds,
And, ultimately,
I'll read the opening. It's kinda like a
backdoor for his israeli intelligence, kind of conversation,
and
str crowds strike was used sort like it
was around the
clinton discussion. Mh. It says the devastating hack
on solar winds was quickly pinned on Russia
by Us intelligence with same old trapping and
everything we've seen. A more likely culprit
Sam or Sam,
a company whose software was integrated into solar
wind software, just like just as the backdoor
door was inserted
is deeply tied to Israeli intelligence and intelligence
link families like the Maxwell wells. And this
was the... Or was it?
Oh, think was just right here. I think
I took it away. It's just simply saying
such narratives clearly echo those that become prominent
in the wake of the 20 16 election
when now debunked claims were made that Russia
hackers responsible for leaked emails published to wikileaks.
Parallels are obvious when 1 considers the solar
winds quickly bought claims brought on the discredited
crowds strike to aid them in securing their
networks and investigate in hack. Crowds strike
had also been brought on by the Dnc
after the 2016. Wikileaks publication and subsequently was
central in developing the false declarations regarding involvement
of the Russian hackers in the event. It's
very interesting. Now I wanted to read
what Harrison and Smith do you wanna comment
for before I read this?
I'll just very quickly see that I was
I was thinking about when... You know, because
though barr has come up a couple of
times. Donald barr wrote a book called Space
Relations? Space relations? Yes.
So you you know the whole thing with
how he was Epstein. He hired, like, college
dropout.
Jeffrey Epstein to be the dalton
teacher. Right. For mouth and physics. And
but then he goes on to work for,
like, hitch fun, managing, you know, multi millions,
and
the... But Donald bar is book called stations,
and it's all about, like, Aliens doing, like,
a sex trafficking operation. Interesting. And the the
characters do seem very reminiscent of, like, Lane
Maxwell and steam. My think I've heard about
that. Yeah. Yeah. Right. And so it's, like,
a cover story kind of thing for the
book. Crazy. Yeah. Yeah. It's crazy expensive book.
I think it's, like, the soft covers in,
like, 500 dollars. Interesting. Interesting. Very weird. Yep.
Well, so this... Again, just I, you know...
Interest of getting to the discussion of the
Trump's destination. Just wanna wanna to scheme over
this, It's interesting though. And this just remembering
the point is, and as he... He breaks
this down here. This is the same entity
that was used in the past. There's a
little bit... There's a lot of
overlap right now, like, 1 comment about the,
like, die... Of the machines didn't used for
voting and so on. I think it's like
jumping the gun a little bit. But either
way, I think this is a very concerning
entity. So let me see if I had
the crowds Str strike story straight. He says,
when Hillary Clinton was secretary state. She was
illegally funneling sophisticated weapons through Libya to terrorists
that at least, which by the way, left
or right is always what's going on in
the people they fund in their wars. They're
manipulating or publicly doing so today. He says
in an effort to take out a assad
in Syria for Israel. Which again, I... What
regards a paradigm, We've seen our government doing
both these things to Syria to, you know,
over regime change and overthrow When the weapons
transfer went sideways in the Us Ambassador was
killed in meng ga, it was discovered that
she was using an a legal private server
for secret communications. She destroyed the server, but
not before its context were leaked by wikileaks,
including communications about Bizarre, occult rituals and an
inexplicable code words involving children and pizza. Instead
of investigating the leak themselves, the Fbi instead
relied on a crowds strike investigation that falsely
claimed the server was hacked by, Russia. The
Fbi cleared
8 Hillary Clinton despite admitting she broke the
law and launched the Russia gate investigation instead
using more fake Clinton campaign dis info to
tie Trump to Russia to get a pfizer
warrant and spy on Trump while leaking dirt
to the press to undermine first campaign that
his presidency, which by the way happened anyway.
I don't... I I don't argue that there's
more overlap there that we realized my opinion.
When Trump had a call with Ce and
asked about Crowds strike, a whistleblower falsely claim
quid Pro quo. It'd interesting to kinda tie
these different events into that. You know, because
remember that was the time when they try
to accuse them of doing that and arguably
trying to get information about that, but interesting
overlap. And it says then launch the first
impeachment to Stop Trump's inquiries, it was the...
In the mid of his impeachment trial, by
the way, would have event to a want
took place, but that's not the story. He
fast forward to 20 24 and Trump is
dominating Biden when he miraculously strive a Deep
state orchestrated assassination. Talk about that a second.
2 days before the RC2 days later, Crowds
causes the biggest computer network crash in all
of history. Knocking millions of comp corporate and
government systems offline for hours. Other than the
fact that Black rock owns Crowds strike, and
that's a kind of a gross mis representation,
But I think they're 1 of the highest
investors, Or rather own
talked about this the past. Same thing of
Rumble. Right. It's a stretch to say they
own it. Yeah. It's a good point to
make. 11 percent, I think it is. What
in either sense? They have a high stake.
Right? But
it it to be accurate. But it says,
Black affiliate and investment firm placed millions of
dollars betting against
Donald Trump stock and true social, the hour
before this assassination.
That again was also something that has been
later pulled back, but I'm equally suspicious about
the error. They said that it was. But
to be accurate, that's they they've the information
they put out did show that it was
a lot more than just his stock, but
that could've have been easily done to cover
that. Right? So it's it's nonetheless very, very
cons ubiquitous to happen like before. Obviously suspicious.
But Find this to be in good, you
know, kind of overview of it all. So
I wanted to quickly play this because I
think it's a hilarious kind of a a
fun note real quick before we get back
into it. Remember he's talking about whole server
thing and how they decided to investigate
Russia gate instead of the server. I thought
this a funny time to replay this clip
that I think is just hilarious, and this
was the Comey
press conference about why they weren't going to
go up ended up listing off all the
crimes. They did a remix about it. Remember.
Good morning. I'm here to give you an
update on the Fbi's
investigation of secretary button. What wanna do is
tell you what we're recommending a first, let
me tell you what we found 110
emails.
Contain classified.
What difference
point
difference at this point it doesn't say everything
I was.
There was no.
No
regulations
I don't know why that is frozen. I
guess that's just the audio. Any case you
guys get the point. It would... The poll
the whole point is that that's Comey going
through the list of all the things that
they found, which are just shockingly criminal, and
then they add in the whole thing. What
difference zip points does it make Clinton saying
that, you know, bottom line was, it was
just meant to be funny, but in play,
of course, the point that it ended up
being, like,
embarrassing obvious she broke the law, and they
just decided not to charge her, You know,
just a ridiculous reality and then went on
a witch hunt about Russia gate, which kind
of was a 2 pronged thing with Q
and on that Think drove through right back
to sleep in a lot of ways. Right.
Very, very fascinating.
Yeah. But do you remember it's staying White?
That's what I was talking about Dana White?
Den White. What email See. Yeah Yeah. You
have the wrestling Yeah. In regard to E.
Yeah. Of a blank on. And what was
the... Was it again? What was his? He
was a at the Rn c And, like,
you know, he's he very proud. Oh, that's
what somebody else was saying too, about... That's
now that it connects. That's why somebody was
saying, it's not wrestling, but they said wrestling
guy was the first graduate
That yeah. So that's interesting. Kind of... I
mean, he's always been a Trump supporter, so
it's not, like, all that shocking. Yeah. There.
Just, you know, kind of feeds into the
whole Olympics or, like, the ball kind of
a... Definitely. And then I just saw that
of apparently Biden quit the on national ice
cream day.
And he wants you might get it. So
can go eat more ice cream.
Well, you know they're always showing him. Like,
And he says, like, talking about the favorite
ice cream flavor. It's just that's been a
more. Do. Got busy. Get take on the
present. Much ice cream. Know. Yeah.
But so overview, like, we could talk a
lot more on this in general. I wanna
I wanna make sure we talk about the
the the Trump aspect of it, But the
whole thing is that it's just... Now... There
was a global outage shows that don't know.
Airlines
banking stuff that appears to be back up
today. Yes. Right. And so my thing was...
I I was yesterday, there's a lot going
on. I wasn't able to get to a
show I was like, maybe Just need to
jump on and talk about this. And then
I thought about it. I'm like, you know,
there's always these events, which are... I guarantee
are gonna be relevant in some way, I
I also think there was probably more to
what that was yesterday. Yeah. But it's like...
I hate... This the rush to say this
was it. It's happening. You know, this is
then they goes right back an hour we're
back in the same spot. You know, yeah.
Doesn't mean it wasn't nothing, but there's always
a jump to cover the story from partisan
ship. Always. Right. And I think that's important
to highlight. But so overall,
it's a... An entity. And the at the
point I mentioned by the way is that...
I it was maricopa. Was that the county?
Anyway, there's there's 1 of these counties somewhere
had an issue with their election they were
doing, and they weren't able to Maricopa, and
they weren't able to...
Does the near the the post... Oh I
think I might even have grabbed it.
Was this it? Let me see. No.
But any case the point was that it
basically,
they said that,
because of the outages, they had to postpone
something or other. As far as Could tell,
I didn't dive incredibly deep, but it wasn't...
The argument now has become online that their
crowds strike is hosting the servers of these
voting machines, and I'm like, well, first, the
claim is that they're not even to connect
the Internet, which I believe is probably not
accurate. I think they're lying about that a
lot of ways. But the what do you
use this to make that point. It's simply...
I don't know whether that's why they postponed
it or so on. I just the same
kind of ideas a lot of speculation that
gets projected as, you know, the reality.
And so... And this this ties into the
other point I gonna make. Overall, let's keep
an eye on what's going on with the
crowds thing. Nobody should be okay with that
company being involved with anything like this. That's
obvious no matter what side you're on? No.
Right. That's the problem. Was these companies work
their way in. Like, what whitney was talking
about that become, like these central players that
are tied to the worst people, the worst
manipulation, and we always get played by it.
You know? Yeah. Well, I also think it's
very concerning
airline because there's just a massive
push from every angle to stop us from
flying. They do not want the p... The
p to have any access to,
transportation. And well, that's the larger point to
make to the end there Is too this
clearly as you made in the beginning. Overlaps
with the idea of the cyber pandemic and
idea that they're telling you it's gonna come
calm. Everything gonna collapse and what does that
lead to you asked? Rei imagining our future
because c were vulnerable, and that's like an
easy 1 2 step 123...
Called the age of global enlightenment. Yep. There
you go. Right? It all connects. And they're
clearly pushing that. Right? I mean, every every
time something like happens, they're always say, we
need to get more control over this and
that That goes back to the public private
partnership and with what things like Pal and
feel and all these same players. Yeah? So
it's all in all inner inter interconnect. And
I I don't wanna to include this part
of it,
which goes to that same point, which is
really interesting to me. So let's let's go
at this without, you know, no. Let's this
this was posted a night... To July nineteenth.
First day at Crowds strike, pushed a little
update and taken the afternoon off. Look at
him in front of Crowds strike. Clearly. Right?
And then he goes fired totally unfair on
the nineteenth then he follows up with this
video on the nineteenth saying,
what happened was completely my fault. Let's see
what he Do what he has say.
Hello. It was indeed definitely
absolutely certainly me who did the crowds strike
modification that caused all this worldwide It was
my very first day on the job as
a new system admin dev, and I was
very eager and excited.
Let's say I actually made a small update
to a line of code to optimize and
update slightly, a little bit and maybe I
shouldn't have.
I got fired, So I was called in,
Normally, I only worked in the morning, while
I worked in the morning did a small
update and then went home. And then they
called me back today,
indeed telling me that I really need to
come back.
It really wasn't even to congratulate me.
I thought it was as if it was.
So now I'm just waiting for my termination
documentation.
They told me that you should never put
an update into production without testing it, especially
not on a Friday.
And I said, well, it's not Friday. It
was Thursday.
Today is Friday,
but you see I had tested the update
on my Pc and it was working.
Okay. So he posted out in the nineteenth.
Hashtag crowds strike.
Then he says, hello, Elon. Do you have
a job for me? Please re tweet. So
Elon can see it. Then he says, a
lot of people are are
making mocking my hand. It's an optical illusion.
It's normal size. He's just, you know, just
put always plays out and he goes, a
lot of you asked the line of code
I changed optimize. Here it is.
And by at this point, he's going crazy.
Right. It's a... This has got a round
on back shared aggressively by a lot of
really large Republican platforms. Most of which if
now deleted this. And he says, look, the
Simpsons predicted it.
Crown style.
And then goes how I broke the Internet
today and what lessons we can learn from
it? Listen up.
Today's tweet where I said I work at
Crowds has been seen tens of millions of
times on Twitter, shared on all possible social
media, front page of Reddit,
I,
honestly, I see it absolutely everywhere. It's just
completely crazy.
And in fact, to the point where obviously,
when something like this manages to be so
widely spread no matter how many denials there
are, people will continue to believe it, and
it's kind of like an urban legend.
And what's really funny is that I generated,
you can see in the photo that I
have a kind horn. It's because I did
a really bad photoshop at it.
And here's the original photo. I was with
some teachers in a training session on fake
news specifically.
And so I needed a hand doing that,
So I asked photoshop generative Ai to do
it. And that's why I have a tiny
comic book can. And so
It's very funny because I already see people
sharing the thing on the other side of
the world. It's like the Japanese saying, yeah,
The thing is it was a guy who
was on his first day at the company
who messed everything up. And on top of
that, he had comic can. So not only
does it teach people to verify their information,
it also shows them a bit of what
can be done with videos created by generative
Ai.
There you go, it's quite funny.
I got fired. So I was called in.
Normally, I...
So the obvious point. Right? So I'm... Know
way am I in suggesting anything about censorship
or anything like that, which is probably his
fake news class would be loving talking about.
Right?
Everybody has a right to share anything they
want and so on. It's the same point
they made about past discussions that it's crazy
to me. How many people out there
jump at these things without any due diligence.
Right. And I'm talking, like, very high level.
There there was corporate overlaps in this. There
are people in corporate media who were sharing
this out.
I mean some of which were like, I
don't know about the... But they were still
sharing it. And this... And to bring it
back up. This went, check this out.
The just this 1 has 45000000
views. Right? And so, obviously, there is a
point you made about people and fake news,
not to suggest that that in any way
in my opinion means that anybody should be
centered. That's free speech. But we need to
start learning that
especially people in the paradigm are
manipulating your ability to blindly believe what their...
The side says. Or what they're... The gospel
book go The body access. The other thing,
I think that's really
like, this is really a statement too is
but we live in... It's... Like, people are
being rewarded for having, you know, access to
the information. Mh. And that's how the algorithms
are you know, that... That's how they work.
And so people are so hungry to... That's
why they call things way before they have
any information. Right. And so it's
it it's a... I think it's very dangerous.
It is it's gonna take advantage of. By
really getting into... The deep state, the government,
both sides of the paradigm. Yeah. Yeah. There's
so much pressure to, like, to to have
to be first.
Be something groundbreaking.
And, I I think just because of technology
the access to stage it,
is much higher. So people... I, you know,
I keep saying we're gonna reality yours. And
I mean that literally... Absolutely we arguing over
1 3. What's on. It's like that we
need to have a conversation about. But like,
we, like, we're built... We're stepping into this
right now. I only imagine where the, like,
with this part of it. Like, I bet
you even bad if we flushed it out
that would be so abstract some people. Yeah.
Because we're, like, in the earliest stage, They
know exactly what you're talking about. Like, we're
gonna get this point where we're literally debating
about what, not just like, what the video
was. Or who the person was. But, like,
entire really happened. Yeah. Exactly. And that's the
deep fake overlap. Yep. So that that creeps
me out. Like, that's a point of role
where
I mean, there's just no... If you what,
I Relate it to it's sort, like I
say, about people that are arguing from position
of, like, you know, God told me to
do it. There's just no arc... There's no
discussion to you. Right? You can't say you're
wrong, They'll be like, no. Know. I'm right.
And there's there's nothing you can do. And
so you just agree to disagree green. You
know what happens if that's like nation states
or
you know, like, that's where this is going
and it's intentional, I think. But I I
think it's absolutely intentional. Yeah. So I... I'm...
This is very, very concerning because this like
this really... It it it puts it up
on, you know, big stage free to see
Yeah. Where we're going where we're headed.
Yeah. And as and showed you, this is
the original post and you can, clearly see
how bad that was? I mean, like, how
do you not notice that? Know what I
mean? Like I mean, or at least take
a second to look at it to make
sure you just... He says so. You share
it. You know, and and this actually happened
by the way,
recently, actually, funny enough. We'll talk about this
next.
Where was this? I think it was this
1 here.
So this video went around, showing... People claiming
it was Trump's you're getting shot.
And it complete... It's utterly fake, and it
takes half a second because now now this
is added, the he's facing the wrong way.
He is... They have languages backward. The the
the writing. Right. You know, somebody inverted this.
And apparently, at first, I thought it was
not even the right location. But I guess
you can find her on the side, like
behind the podium thing or the the tele
proctor. So they just inverted it and they
altered it to make it look like he's
ears shot. This got shared by everybody. Some...
I think like Luke K and people were
sharing this. Like, look at, we got it.
We got it. I'm just going like... That's
your point. They were so quick to jump
at. Yep. That we don't even take half
a second to look at 1 of the
most obvious steaks I've ever seen. Mh. At
how dangerous that is. And everybody should learn
from that lesson because it's irresponsible. You know?
And do they have right to do it?
Being wrong, lying yes. That's free speech. They
have a right to do, but I think
that... That's It should hard to say. Yeah.
They do, but they're wrong in doing so.
But the commentary... Well, I think, you know,
but really
the interesting point to me is the pressure
that people feel the need. So prior to
this type type of technology,
you know, journalists always felt that you know,
pressure to be forced, you know, to get
the story, you gotta get the story. Mh.
And... But now with technology,
so the the I I talked about
a while ago. I was talking about Ai
and ethical wars, like ethical,
the ethics Ai. And I poorly... I I
think this is this really, you know, points
to that. Because it's this idea. So it
you always want... I mean, Journalists always wanna
get the story. They wanna get the groundbreaking
and be the first and But now they
can they can create it. Mh. Manufacture whether
it's right... Whether it's real or not. Right.
But they're gonna get rewarded
because they get the likes, the clicks, the
shares. And and that's what he said too
Is it, like, and that's the best point
about. I'm glad you said that. Is his
point Does it no matter how many people
step in and to go. No. It was
fake. Mh.
No. It wasn't. I saw. You know, and
it it become a, like he said an
Urban legend it's gone on the world around.
And so now it's just in talking points.
It's like you get people like Nikki Haley
still saying that I saw gas these children
are these narratives that have been so utterly
debunked because it's just stuck in the in
the conversation. Same thing. This will be probably
the... Or they'll end up coming on the
other side and saying, no. The second part
of the story with the fake. Right. That's
to try to hide the reality because that's
what they've grained into their narrative. It's everywhere.
And either way, now, he's got a plop
form. Exactly. Exactly assume benefits either way. Even
if it's meant to be lie. Yeah. Yeah.
That's... And So, I think the the ethics
is a real question. Yep. You know, this...
Like, so many people are using Ai to
write, like, articles and books even.
And it... You know, people will say, well,
you're not really pla because, you know, now
you're just not play answering from 1 person.
It's from a collection throughout the Internet. Right
Right Right? And it... But it does become
this I think it's going to shift
you know, what people perceive as being ethical.
There's gonna be right if you if you
don't have any
qualms about stealing from
from
you know, the the Internet, essentially. Mh. And
you don't but you're claiming it is yours.
Right, you're taking some sort of ownership or
you're capitalizing on and you're profiting off of
it. The same thing, this guy's completely staged
it it's completely fake. But when this become
part of the, you know, common
usage and common
commonplace place in general, like then where where
are people's
at the borders are gonna be. Yeah. That's
deficit Think Yeah. There's been clocked many comment.
The 1 I always highlight. There's many of
them is Eric Schmidt in a podcast of
years ago saying that, you know, eventually, we're
gonna get your point to our artificial intelligence
making decisions, policy decisions that we may fundamentally
think our our immoral, but they know better.
It know better and we have to act
Yeah. I'm like, holy. Shit. If you just
say that, like, much Society literally lays out
how all human governments are gonna be planted
by Ai. Mh. So they're gonna make all
of our. Assuming it even is Ai, not
just 1 of them behind the computer. This
is this is what I just say about
they're the post human? I mean, there's the
trans
there's, like, literal post.
How do the people think that they're gonna
have programs for Ai who's programming them. Yeah.
Right. We don't have humans. It's all robotic.
Yeah. Well, what, I mean, that's kind of
the whole horror movie reality when it becomes
a circular where Ai is training itself and
it's, like, exponential and we're gonna... Even believe
that that's really possible. Good point. And I
I think that's up for a debate right
now, You know, in husband. I don't see
any of ends for sentience. Mh. But I
think that, you know, it's very dangerous the
way because even if there isn't sentience and
you convince the math populace that sentience as
possible. Mh. The result will be almost the
same. Like like, a day of god. Right?
That make the same ideas. Is that. And
even just if people believe that they're sentience
Even if it's not, Mh. The results will
be all almost the same because they're exactly.
Yeah. And I guarantee they know that. Right?
Yeah So it could be a whole, like,
moon. Like, where they were like, let's just
get out ahead of it. Let's just tell
them we get it and we'll make it
half of the background. Exactly. Know.
Oh, I shouldn't laugh. That's actually really terrifying.
But... Yes. They share fine. Ma'am. But I
yeah I think this was an excellent point
to demonstrate how easy it is for, like,
what you're talking about people like that. I
mean, I this a a very good argument
for why I think, you know, the way
that we present what we do, it's not
about being first. It's about being correct. Right?
It's like, I think that the world is
And I'll I I'll even argue that it's
possible that I'm being very naive. Right? That
I'm meant the world is designed in a
way, maybe not necessarily that we want it
this way, but it just is
by simply thinking you can just step into
it and be objective and honest and accurate,
and that will speak for itself. You don't
need the gimmicks and the marketing and all.
And that that will just work. And that's
what I I mean, I to agree, I
think I've proven that and think we proven
that. Right? But I... At the same time
not because it's like you get stuck and
you just eat and everything builds around it.
And know, I... So I... I'd like to
believe that it's about trying to set that
like like the mil experiment, the cor talked
about. You know. Be the first 1 to
go, you know what? Fuck that. No. No.
No. No We're not gonna do that. We're
gonna stand out alone, You know, and then
1 more person. Yeah. I wanna be like
that. I... Later that's respect And so eventually,
it builds, and that's what I think we're
trying to do in the media. Not to
say that we're even the the starting point,
but just I I see... Like, example Cor
to somebody who's inspired me to be that
way. I think that that's how that works.
So I do believe that if we continue
to step into this field with integrity and
only seek out the truth at all costs,
even if we're not the first,
eventually, we can change this field. And I
think that's happening. No I I like that.
And I think that that that... The... This
time you might be a little more often
optimistic am Yeah Wish thinking is a good
thing sometimes. Yeah.
I... You know, it is how I live.
You know, but I... I'm just not somebody
who can, like, you know, ride g for
the sake of or you know, that that
just... It it doesn't sit well with me,
and I feel like, I get, like, this
internal kind of
no matter what kind of external, you know,
reward I get, like, the internal cost that
I pay too great. And I'm not... I'm
just not capable of it. Right. Right. So
So hope, but I hope that, you know,
that sets as an example and that there
are enough of us to do that that
that does, you know,
saturation sort of change. I see it. III
can't speak to whether I think it will
actually change the dynamic it. But I mean,
I see it. I see more and more
people stepping up and recognizing that. Maybe it's
not of people like I us at all.
It just simply that they also were like,
this has gotten so obvious that I'm just
tired of playing these games. I just wanna
be, you know, the problem is that people
step into this as a new entity it's
it's immediately clear that you will not benefit
from that. Right. You know like, you just
you you tap into something, whether it's 1
narrative or another 1 side or another you
know, what... And and that... And you see
a very quick response from that. And so
it's it's a feedback loop. It's dangerous. You
know. And so that's where this all leads
to. You know? So on that very note,
Let's talk about the discussion of Donald Trump.
Alright. And and the attempted of. And I
think the this is... It's rife with about
everything. I mean, it's so is has gotta
be 1 of the most fascinating
incidence like this because we can see, like,
we were talking about before. But within, like,
the right alone, there's, like, 4 different perspectives
that all that challenge each other. But at
the same time, also all come together at
the end in regard to Trump being the
positive thing, And then on the other side
of it, the same thing. You got the
left they're like, totally staged. When 30 seconds
ago, they would have called that irresponsible in
any way. Yeah. To even suggest that they
could fake an avenger You know, it just
it's... I don't. I'm interconnected over your way.
But you can't say it's fake. I mean,
Right. You know let's challenge. Series violent events.
Right?
They didn't knock so have to pay millions
of dollars for claiming that. Absolutely. And here's
even a fun your way to go 1
step in the other way again is that
I've now seen a lot. This crazy push.
I just talked about Lives Tiktok doing this
of the right. Now canceling people because they're
saying something about Trump. Or I think it
was Robbie Star put, you know, c quoted
somebody saying, I wish they would have shot
better, which... Yeah. Is disgusting. It's a human
life. Right? But we've seen a lot of
those jokes, People joking about the, you know,
black lives matter or or people that, like,
all these different aspects of people on the
right doing the same thing. But my point
is... Or, like, I think it was James
Woods, you made a point about somebody who
should have killed himself better or whatever. Oh,
it was Aaron Bush or something like that.
Right And there was a lot of those.
And so the point is he came out
and said, oh, Alex Jones had to pay
for this. He should have to pay. Did
you really just say that? So, yeah, do
the same thing that I just spent last
year telling you shouldn't be happening because unjust,
but do it to them because they the
other side? Yes, guys. Yes. And that's how
that works. Because this... It's my whole point
about project 20 25.
Right? It's like, just because it's the what
you wanna see doesn't mean that it's right.
Told. You still have to follow what what
is the, you know, process? Like, a constitutional
if it's ethical the.
Right? That's constitutional it's really the... Yeah. Yeah.
And there are a lot of people out
there, both in the paradigm And not that
do believe that. You know? But at my
point is to see those that are willing
compromise what they just got done telling you
was never... Like, I made this point about
Lives of Tiktok and in regard to the
canceling part of it. Now people are out
there saying that. Like, I think the comment
was something like, you know, oh, Wish she
was a better shot. You know, Yeah. You
every right to go out and so you're
disgusting. You're... The human life no matter what
you think about it him and you're a
bad person, But the point was not about
whether she had to right to say it
or whether or not whether or not lives
at a right to call her out. It's
about the fact that they tagged home Depot
was like,
fire that person. Yeah. And then cheered it
on. And this is 1 of, like, 40
people. I mean just, I've I've seen at
least 5 of them, but apparently a huge
campaign
where they're getting people fired for, in some
cases just really bad jokes. You know what
I mean? And it's like that... But it's
just... It's so shockingly hypo critical to do
the same thing, cancel culture, regardless how justified
you may feel. You don't think the people
on the left, in some cases thought they
were justified and shutting down what they thought
were nazis or whatever else. And not are
diluted they are. You know, it it's just
Same point we just made just be better.
Right? Strive for the things you actually believe
in and don't compromise because, yeah, I made
the point about foreign policy. You know, oh,
well, Russia use cluster Bombs. So let's give
Cluster Bombs Ukraine because... Ran. Aren't they illegal?
Yeah, but they hit it first. Like also,
you're not the thing you say aren't right
got it. You're just as bad as they
are. I get it. I get it. Yeah.
Alright. So let's get into this conversation. I'll
include the the shows I recently did. The
1 about just the first ones, Second 1
third 1 about just, you know, evidence going
forward.
Now. I wanna to start here. And what
really before we can get into this? And
where what do you wanna start anything that
jumps into your mind about
this discussion stands out. Because I've... I've breaking
this down, and I've kind of in my
mind about the parts that I think are
worthy of calling out. But you know, anything
to you that stands out? No. We we
we can go through whatever you have. I
mean, I I... For me, it's just that...
There's a lot that we don't know. Right.
But everything really just point to it being
legitimately an assassination attempt. Mh. And so at
this point, I'm kinda... Yeah. Don't know So
the people who are claiming that it's not.
It's just... Well, that's just just for shake
of conversation. Well, I mean, I'll I'll insert
that where I think it's a relevant Different
opinion. But just, you know, aside from that.
Like, what are your thoughts on
the... And I I would argue the possible
viable. About, like, a sec a a second
shooter.
There that he was a patsy and somebody
else? Like, like, what do you think about?
Victim. Yeah. I I totally do. He meets
all of the the markers, Mh and pi.
So... But that would also fall in mind
with, you know, a deep state kind of
cooperative. Yeah.
I think that I think it's totally possible
there think likely there was another shooter. Mh...
I've seen some of it, like, from the
angles,
it would be likely that from where... I
think there was, like, a window that was
open, that would had a more... For the
building, yeah, or the, yeah. The the the
the water tower were... Or there's no... They
put the water. Yeah. Would have been more
likely to have hit Trump where it did.
Mh.
If it was another shooter. So, I mean,
I'm open to all of those. I don't
think there's... I don't... Haven't seen enough of
the evidence to make claim that's defended in
that regard.
But that's... Yeah. Yeah. I just... I think
the point is there's a lot of reason
to be very skeptical. And I'm not I'm
not from a whatever you wanna call. It's
it's obviously a... An objective stance right now
to go time out. Like, the way that
went, the way the secret service acted, the
the angles you're presenting
know, there... There's a lot of anomalies in
this that just... There even, like, an article
that wasn't even secret service?
Well, now as you know, we're getting the
overlap. There... There the this story has been
changing over the last couple of days. First
sc was, like, well, they... I gave them
the responsibility of the building, and then mickey
came out and said, well, you know, technically,
no. We only had parking, and then at
the point being today is that we'll... According
with the secret service, they're not even legally
allowed to out outsource their responsibility. You know,
and so it's just, like, she has is
buried herself with these different statements. They kind
of contradict what really happened. And. So the
point is why? Well, you could easily go...
Because this in my theory,
And it's certainly possible. You know? But I
think what we know is that she's clearly
been inconsistent with her story. There's been dishonest
in there, and it look, it could easily
amount to just her trying to cover ras.
That's possible. You know? But I'm with you.
I think there's a lot of weirdness there,
and, you know, the the aspect of, like,
for example,
was the other point I gonna say? The
angles in general, I'm gonna get do first?
Ours is 1 of the things that just
I can't get past. And it it could
just as likely be another shooter that would
answer that question. Yeah But I just don't
blame boxing out possibilities because people were say,
you know, as you already talked about. There's
a lot of theory flying around. So let's
it is likely, and there was another shooter,
but... Well, so let let's start with this
in general. So this is the thing that
really stands out to me. And what I
was gonna show is that it's interesting that
I've been
talking about this, and I'll go right to
what you were saying.
Is this was... What you were talking about
on the angles and so on? Yeah. The
that the water tower side of it. This
is... You know there is which, I'm gonna
start with a big discrepancy around where he
was on this building. Mh. And I'm gonna
show you my thought, and I'd like to
get your take on it. And... And I'm
all very open to the different theories people...
All I've been trying to the entire time
was down what we can see we can
improve and asking like, how does that add
up? Right. And I'll show you what I
mean. And and people have argued that it's
like, a perspective thing that might have changed
it and we'll get into where he might
be. But the big difference is whether he
was over here
or over here. Or maybe somewhere in the
middle. And each 1 of those very much
changes the angle. Right? Very much. But overall,
the same point John Cole is now making,
which I've been kind of screening about from
day 1 is that I don't think wherever
he was on this roof that he would
have had a shot at Trump's back right
ear while he was looking here,
which is where the Trump... The Jumbo trump
was. And I'll show you better shot at
that. At the same point he's making. And
so I think what's interesting and you can
see this shot too,
where that this was corporate media. There's now
3 corporate media platforms that put him on
this part of the part of the roof.
Far, I guess, if you're looking to Trump's,
this is so gets so confusing. If Trump's
facing forward on the stage, you're looking to
his right. The point is on that building,
he would be all the way to the
left. But if you're standing behind the building,
Looking at Trump, he will be all the
way to the right of that building. Either
way, the point is where you can see
him on the screen is where I think
it seems like he was more likely than
the inside. Right? But the problem is that
this has been moved by even corporate media,
many different times and it hasn't really been
fleshed out. Mh. And there's also more than
1 sniper location. I'm again get that in
a second as well. So here, let's just
play his thoughts on this first, and and
this is teachers for choice. I'm gonna doing
a space with coming up I think in
next couple of days. Breaking down my... My...
This was a Jason Bass did our clip
of this on Instagram for us, Oops. Talking
about the same overlap. You kinda see the
same... Like, that's a corporate media image right
there. Showing it from right there. So here's
what John Cole is saying, and it's generally
the same point I'm making. The no matter
where he was not building, I argue he
wouldn't have been able to shoot that part
of
which could mean think if you want or
it can be another shooter, Right? Or some
other variation. This point is acknowledging what we
can see.
Take a look at that too. Take a
look at the arrow and the bottom, See
the big ring red arrow.
Right? So that's what I left on
What is he ge at and gl at?
What's he pointing at?
He's pointing at the jumbo tron? He's pointing
at the jumbo tron and he keeps glance
in the big ring.
He's gl at the jumbo.
He's pointing at it. He's gl at it.
Alright.
It's important that you remember this and this
angle.
If in fact,
he is gl at that jumbo tron at
the moment he is shot.
There is no way that crooks hits him
in the right ear.
Now I think that's very easy to see.
And and the point where he even puts
him all the way, what's interesting. He's got
on this angle. He's got him kinda of
more, like, right there, if you can see
that building over there to the left, That
is where they have in placed, like, after
he was killed. And I'll show you that
that image I'll show in a second. It's
very anomalous because the gun is way too
far away from him. Right. And that's supposed
to be before anybody got went up there.
And so it's, like, how did that happen.
Throat when he was... It just doesn't make
me sense. Yeah. So I think III argue
if it's placed in the wrong spot that
the body was moved. That's not I'm not
saying I can prove. I'm just thinking if
you're trying to just make sense of how
it would be different spot. Right. That would
seem to make sense. But then he shows
you the angle over here. Right ear. Which
shows it further, I would argue to that
right. But my point is no matter where
he was. I agree with John that It
just... So there's the jumbo tron. Mh. He's
looking directly at it, ge at it. And
even at the last point, the whole argument
he tilt even further.
You can see that that's the whole argument
that made it, like, saved his life that
he tilt didn't to win. But I just
don't see how that's possible. Now maybe you
get some kind of breakdown... I'm open to
the possibility that I'm wrong. I just, I
think that's pretty objective.
Crooks would have hit him in the left
side of the head. If he's gl at
the jumbo tron. Mh. Crooks hits him in
the left temple and the president is dead.
Yep. I see it. If he's looking at
the jumbo tron, what is directly
behind the jumbo on.
Water towers where he's going with that time
of the water tower. Now I don't know
about this part of it. Not to say
that that's not possible, but what they're presenting
as what they think they see as a
person,
I mean, I saw even anymore... It just
could be sun reflection, it could be anything.
And it also could be a person. I
think the logical lineup of the tower does
make sense with a lot of the angles.
I'll show again a second. But I'm just
not quick to jump at this... I've shown
1 on the show, which I'm, like, it
just looks like a black
variation and, like, this, you know, the sun
looks on the top of a hot surface.
It's really in the trees movement I. Yeah.
I'm just like, god. It's really hard to
tell. Certainly could be the case. U.
This gets very awkward.
Because we've got footage
that shows something shadowy,
moving around potentially on top of the water
tower. Not very sound. You know, potentially moving
you, but I agree. Though it does... It
watch the video. It's interesting. Yeah. But for
first and foremost, by the way, I would
just wanna pat myself on the back here
that this was something I picked up on
day 1. And it was, like, Wait a
minute. This doesn't add up to me, and
I got so much pushback on this. And
I still think that it's sound. I doubled
down on every other show since then. This
this is funny. And again, I certainly could
be wrong. I just nobody has come up
with an argument that's, like, you're wrong. If
they just disagree.
And I'm like well, but look at the
angry, it does doesn't make any sense to
me, and then we get fakes coming out
showing the ears shot, and I'm like, this
is starting to feel a little bit fishy
to me. And again, that could have, like
you're saying to be a deep state attack
on his life. And I missed and they're
trying to cover it up or that it
was warning or, you know, who knows. Right.
But we have to acknowledge that just something
doesn't line up to me. You know?
And then, yeah, that was it right there.
And then so here's where I think is
it's interesting. This is what this is where
I'm coming from. So this is a video.
Let's go back to the quick shot here
from the right side of the building.
That's clear. That's this has been shown in
a fat 40 different ways and I think
even 1 of these has the lineup,
Maybe not. I've tried to grab from the
other shows. But so the point is, here's
where
that they're kind of, like, party people parties
all it's all like right over here. Okay.
And that's what we're looking at. So you
get this video shot and the bot the
bottom of the active part at the top,
it's just showing you the 1 shot they
got where you show them So here here's
what we can prove. Mh. He's on the
sla upward side of the roof. Right? He's
facing torque Trump That's we know. That's what
everyone's telling us. Right? I shouldn't say no.
It's what word we're being told. Right? And
and then you see in the video which
I'll play next. The guy's looking at them.
And you can see these he's in the
grass. You can also see the window on
that side of the building. Oh, it's not
dough.
Oh, whoops... Oh, that's why. I I forgot
re redo downloaded that. Let me just play
it right here. Okay.
See. Look yeah.
Oh, man it's the wrong word. Well, it
suits the same purposes. So you already saw
the 1 I just showed you. You can
see his... Let me just grab this really
quickly. Okay. Sometimes what I do is I
download these under numbers and I forget that
they... It change is the 1 I had
from before. Here here's the angle shots so
you can see that. Okay. Okay?
We won't be able to see that again.
K? So then my point is in this
video,
Hey there.
You can see where they're coming from. So
there's he... There is the net this is
after was shot. So he's on that roof.
It's facing upward
You can see that... Right, you can see
the window on the building right there. See
what I'm saying right there? Yeah. K? And
then you can see the grass. They're standing
in the grass. Like this is the whole
conversation. So what I'm saying is if you
go back to
this part of it,
How in the world this is the better
1?
How do you get a shot of him?
Trying to get the right spot. Sorry. Here
we go. How do you get a shot
of him
upward sla on the roof, not down.
From that side of the building like that
if he's all the way on the left
side, which is where the parking lot was.
Right. Now they're they're very, very well maybe
an answer for that. Somebody saying, like,
that they were they were on elevated area.
But, look, my opinion would be simple the
same as I don't see how you get
that shot. Look at how close that you
could can see. He's right there. He's not...
He's not on the other side of that
building. Right. That's a long building. Right? And
this she doesn't make any sense to me.
And so that we come back to the
point is that he clearly seems to be
at least further to the right if not
in the middle, if that's even possible with
that shy. That's it for you guys to
decide. But I still think that's really interesting
at the end of the day,
the lineup would make that even more impossible.
Going back to this.
Right? So if he's all the way there,
and he's looking all the way to the
right. I mean, that's just nearly impossible in
my opinion. Let alone the back upper or
right of a 0. Right? Yeah. It just
doesn't line up for me. So if you
jump in any point, I'm just gonna this
these these... I just find this very interesting
that shows you a discrepancy that I can't
get past.
You have any thoughts so far?
Yeah. I mean, yeah. No. I I agree
with everything you pointed out. It... I've I've
been saying I think it's likely that there
wasn't the shooter, but I prove that, you
know, I just don't know. Here's the 1
I was trying to play.
Good. Just soon say, I am the either
from the beginning, this kind of looked very
reminiscent of jfk k. Mh. And
it was not successful.
I recently had a Jerome Course and
doctor Matt Mat,
on the show, talk about their their book.
And he goes through... I mean, very very
thorough kind of evidence indicating that there were
multiple shooters. Mh. And I I feel like
that's probably
it would make sense. Yeah. Yeah. It would
add up. And and so the then the...
Let's play this out for a second for
Play this. So if you're talking... So if
we have a... This Well, let's just say
this. If we think that this is not...
If he's on side or a placement, which
I think arguably be anywhere in that building
that he wouldn't be able to hit the
year. That could either mean another shooter, and
he would be a Patsy in the whole
thing. Right? Or I guess you could argue
was fake, which I don't think the evidence
points to. Right? Is there anything else you
could think of that would make that make
sense?
I mean, there's also the possibility that maybe,
you know, she he missed completely, but, you
know, And well, and oh, there's that theory
that... I don't think it's a... People early
report from local media, reported that they hit
the glass tele prompt and that it shattered
it his ear. With the only reason I
thought that made sense is because I still
don't think that the the cut or it
just doesn't look like you would expect. I
knew I was gonna bring them up. I
have the images I just didn't brett grab
them. You know, the shots on his ear,
they just don't... It doesn't look. I can't
really see a bigger spot, especially if a
bullet hit it. But again, it could be...
There's cup... Shots you see 1 with, like,
the hair in the way, which kinda makes
it look like there might be a d,
but then there's another angle where I swear.
It looks like you can see the full
ear with blood on it. We'll Side. But
again, it could be angles can be lighter
any clear Give. Yeah. Don't... And, like, circular
D it. Well, there are those shots going
around where you can see, like, the altered
images But from what I can see, let
me grab, so we can talk about it.
Because I mean, there there's some interesting shots.
Here's a 1 of them I think. Right
Get that back up.
So there to me, it looks quite different
than the other 1. Have better shot, and
better
resolution. But, you know, it just doesn't look
like you... Don't see, like, what you would
expect a bullet for. The hole to me.
It could. No. I definitely could. But I
mean, the all the other argument you'll make
around this is that there's, you know, very
little blood on his white shirt and all
and all these different things, but there... I
did show a picture of 1 of the
secret sort of wiping in with the rack
So that would make that make sense. Let
me grab this other shot. It's much more
clear. I think if I still haven't it.
I deleted it.
So Oh, well. In any case, it's more
speculation, which, you know, but I still thought
it was
an interesting 1. Yeah. It doesn't look like
I have it right here. Oh, well. But
anyway I mean, whether or not,
he... It was crooks who was successful, you
know, or... Missed, but, you know, hit him
or whether he was a patsy just to
stage and deflect, and there was another shooter...
Which I I think is actually more probable.
But either way that indicates in that points
to crook being a patsy who didn't encountered
staged. Yeah. Definitely.
Well, so back to
this video. So let me show you what
I was saying.
The important things in this... 1, what, again,
this, I guess Tmz puts this out. The
top is just showing you the still shot
of what they catch in the video where
you can see him. But the point is
here that this guy... And this this is
a different point, but it's also relevant. So
1, like we were just talking about, look
at where he is. Look at the grass
you can see the point though on top
of this is that they time this for...
So he they... They're watching this guy. Mh.
Also, there's 3 points technically. They're all screaming.
There's a guy with a gun and nobody's
doing anything. Right? Yeah. But but so... They're
watching them enough time to film all this.
Yeah. That people see it from in the
crowd in for Trump, they're yelling at. Right?
The. No way. But so the point is
that he there... He's washing with this camera,
You hear the first series of shots. Pop
pop. They come off. And then you hear
the next few,
at that point, we're supposed to think that
he was shot. Right? Then you hear this
guy go. He's turning towards us, which would
not be happening.
Right? And then you hear... And then you
hear 1 last pop. And they go, oh,
they got him. You were everyone say that.
And the point is they heard them talk?
The guy did the first interview. Said he
watched his head get hit shot. Right? So
how does that add up with the rest
of the story?
Because that that would mean to me that
there was at least 8 or 9 shots
depending on as an echo and then 1
last random shot that came way after the
fact Mh. That doesn't... That doesn't add up
with any of the other errors we're getting
from the secret service. Right. So it is
entirely possible that there was that... He shot,
and it didn't land. Right? That's...
We're at the shooter or the other shooter.
Yeah. No most definitely. Yeah. I just mean
that all I'm saying with that point is
that the... Time when the shut when they
when... And they could be wrong what they're
seeing. Right. But that they saw him get
shot with the very last shot you here.
That's all I'm saying. That not what we're
told from the cypress team, which we'll why
you look at the mainstream article about it
next where they're claiming that it was a
1000000 shot, and they show you the guys
who supposedly shot. And I'll show you the
way they reacted in the beginning, which is
the very first shot. So how does that
line? I'll show you what I mean? Let's
watch this first.
Way. Okay. So after the first series of
shots, he's turning towards us.
Not.
That's pretty much it. This start costing more
and stuff. But the point is it just...
It just stays right there. You know, So
the, I think the timing of the child
support, and I'll show you what I mean.
Before we get to that, though, again, just
the the overarching point, but I think it's
interesting
the angles of all of this. Mh. Right?
So how does that make sense if you
can see him from that side. So I
just wanna make sure people plan that people's
minds and there may be an answer to
that. Because, look, here's the shot of where
he you ended up. Look at the gun.
Like, we far away. It doesn't make any
sense. And I can't place where he is
in this shot, but that shot generally, the
larger 1 from up top shows him aunt,
like, all the way on the side of
the parking lot. Right. I just... You... I
I challenge you to explain to me how
that shots possible from that no matter what
perspective you're at on the sloping roof. And
and on top of that even,
Yeah. I know, you're... That was on the...
So the slope is correct. Yeah. The angles
is correct. The placement on that roof doesn't
add up for me.
Very strange.
Again, the other point being, the shot in
the angle and then with the... The people
that were shot, so there was somebody in
this shot... And 2 people over here. Did
he, like, then throw the gun before he...
Certainly possible, I guess. Like, honey threw it
in here, but I just don't think that
is what would normally happen. You get shot.
It's an immediate know, especially in the brain.
It's nothing it... It's done before you can
even react.
And, even with a, like, you could... Argue
that maybe it rolled, but with those... Not
with that spot. The rigid Yeah. And this
the roof, it wouldn't be likely Not rolled
there at least. It this doesn't make any
sense. So I'm arguing
unless there's something that changes the other view
that he simply got moved for some reason,
But then wouldn't there people that would see
that? You know? It just that's my point.
So much about this is anomalous. It doesn't
really seem to add up. And they've done
less than I've ever seen an event like
this and, you know, usually to get the
exact opposite. They rush out with a narrative
which they did, but like, days later, But
usually it's like immediate. Usually they rushed out
with 7, like, so many narratives. Weren't there,
like, 7 just suspected tutors initially? Yeah. But
I mean, like from the corporate media side
of it. Right? Where they usually come out
with the kind of like, here's what you're
supposed to think about this story, and then
they maybe change it later. Now it's been
like, like, they haven't even really gotten in
as the nuance of it which they almost
always do. That just an anomaly to me.
Like, that seems to suggest that there might
be more going on. Like, all the rest
of the things point. I think they want
people confused. I agree this. Yeah. I agree
that's part why they were 7 suspects. And
you can see that the water tower would
line up more at least with those shots.
So you could argue maybe that there was
multiple involvement, you know, that it did shoot
it here and somebody else shot those people.
I I don't know. But I still find
an interesting sort of the sniper part. Right?
So even the Corporate media was only seeming
me to tell you that there was 1
sniper group. There's 2. On trump's side. Right.
Which if it's definitive at this point. Already
talked about the fake video z, which I'm
really does add for me of people like
this where gigantic platforms are just
not checking and sharing it. I find that
very suspicious. So here's is the article that
came out on the nineteenth of July.
Sniper killed would be Trump Assassin with 1
and a million shot.
Now, is it really 1000000 shot? It's not
actually that far away. And on top of
that, I mean, it might be
if they were behind the tree. Mh. And
that's not where I think he was. So
maybe we're seeing the narrative presented that naturally
contrary to the facts but the point would
be that... That's kind of the way they
frame this is they say,
the shot that killed the man would attempted
to assassinate Donald Trump at the rally
Last Saturday was a 1000000 shot. He says
that they learned from the source. The kill
shot was a single shot taken by the
secret service counter who whose view was obscured.
Now it wouldn't have been obscured if they
were on the side of the roof I
mean quite frankly,
it really wouldn't have been obscured if they
were even in this spot.
Or is it right here?
Because you can tell if he had a
shot on Trump of what we're arguing. He
wouldn't really been obscured from the point of
where this guy is not really. Because we're
talking about here and here. The guys were
here. Right? So, look, you... Maybe if he
was all the way over here, which is
why I think they're placing him there. Right?
But if he was anywhere the middle, they
would have at a shot. But that's not
necessarily the point.
The point is this is who they're telling
you shot.
They're saying this is the sniper who killed
him. Now, the point is there are 2
different snipers.
Right? And this is definitive. There are the
ones with the Baseball caps or the ones
with the floppy hats, and that was on
a different building as you can tell. Yep.
And that was the shot we were talking
about, which is
you know, this building and then this building
further back. Yeah. Right? So
if they're claiming this guy shot,
let's take a look at how they reacted.
And so that is... You could see. There's
Trump, and those are the ones 2 is
right. K? So this is them, and this
is timed with the first sound of any
shot you hear. I think it's really interesting
that what you're gonna see is this person
look up from their scope. And by the
way, I mean, I should actually give this
1 too.
About 7 minutes beforehand,
you see them,
looking with their bin vernacular.
Okay. And and in the same direction. Look.
That is not map. That's we're looking right
in the direction of the shooter. Right. And
they're look... 7 important 1 I left office.
That way and then it jumps to 42
seconds before, and that's where we are with
this video.
You're gonna see as he jump up out
of his scope
and then fall back in and do something.
I don't know. I can't confirm it was
a shot. But... Right. Watch the logic Charge
that charged a couple of months old, And
if you wanna really see something to said,
Take a look at what happens.
Okay. So in any situation right there, if
this guy just saw a sniper shoot at
Donald Trump. Do you think he would wait
to shoot? No. No. Right? So the argument
is that he either shot right there
which
seems odd with the way he... You know,
he... Like, a reflect like, a jump
jolt shot, which kinda seems inaccurate either way,
He looked up and and noticed something. He
clearly just saw what happened. Right? I think
that's obvious. So if he was shot,
By this guy, when did that happen?
Am I going keep
This single goes this way, but the larger
shots. The... That's the first reaction. That's what's
credited with taking that shot, but we have
the other video that just showed the the
last sound being the 1 that killed that
guy. Now So again, I'm not... There may
be something that makes sense to me, it's
an inconsistency,
which screams that we're being lied to about
something bigger. There was
seeing if I could find it, but it
was, like, a girl in her car,
and was an Instagram video, and she was
saying that
I don't know which direction she was saying
because it... I, you know, she kept saying
the left, but I don't know which left
that would be right. Right. So let's directional
is kind of irrelevant unless you have context.
But she kept saying this is coming from
the left. It's... And she's was, like, people
are gas lighting me, telling me that I
don't know Have that. You have that. Okay.
And she's like, she's like, I'm a mom
She believe she deleted the video. Did she
And I don't know if that's pressure from
the party he just top. You're making hard
her buddy or she realized it was wrong.
Right. There's actually 2 people now. I both
of them. Where they're talking about the shots
coming from the... And now she does confirm.
The other guy you could argue is a
little bit mixed up with the... What left
he's talking about. Yeah. She saying. She makes
it very clear. She's says here's Ryan. Yeah.
It's to Trump's left My right. Right? It's
very clear.
Okay. Then so I am going to try
to explain in detail where I was in
front of Trump and what happened to the
left of Trump, which would have been to
the right of me.
First and foremost, let me show you how
how close I was to put it in
perspective.
So with Trump facing me,
I was to his left, but I was
pretty close up there. Now let me show
you the bleach to the left of Trump,
but to the right of me.
Okay. So there's the bleach to the left
of Trump right there. Which was to the
right of me.
The
una analyzing happened
to the bleach on the far right side
of trap.
I'm over on the far right or far
left of trump. These are the same bleach
watch the top left.
These are the same exact bleach features. These
are to the left of Trump.
They came those shots came from the back.
Now watch it in slow motion.
They came from the back. Those bullets came
from the back left
What do I I think that you can
see
what you're looking for. Right? So that could
clearly be coming from behind them, Right which
there's a plenty... Actually Help finish the video,
plenty people are in the crowd going over
there. Yeah. But see If you see the
plume,
I Don't think other people argued, you could
say water tower that that was a shot
from water tower that took the 2 people
out in the crowd right there than in
hit then that's where the plum would come
from That way. It's just... Again, speculation. It's
hard to tell?
Trump.
Now let me show you what happened after
those shots were fired.
In that.
You can see the the dual power right
there.
Hard for me to see. But... Yeah. Yeah.
That was on the left side of Trump.
Where people are saying that shots were fired
from behind the and you can clearly see
them, like telling
secret service
it's from over there. It came from over
there and you can see people looking from
behind the bleach.
This
this timeline of events that I just showed
you all came from the left of Trump
on my side. I don't know what happened
on Corey side.
I don't, and I'm that's the fire that
was shot on the other side of the...
So sorry for what happened to him, that
he is not the man that I saw.
He's not.
Something happened. On the left side
of the event. That... That's the gist of
it. So what's what's important is that, you
know, and they could be wrong. Right. They
could be a sound that echoed the other
way, You know, who knows. But it's interesting
that no 1 seems to 1 address this.
And here is the other... Program here, but
lester holt, Nbc News just reporting. And this
girl, Scott, be 1 of the worst reporters
ever arrived to watch in my land. 1
of the attendees,
has deceased, has died from from injuries as
a result of the shooting. Joseph, you told
me off camera that you may have witnessed
this, And I I'm so sorry to be
talking to you in in this tragic moment,
but can you describe what it is that
you saw? I wanna...
I was attending the rally.
I was in the set of bleach
to the very far left of the podium
or Donald Trump will. President Trump was speaking.
You know, was there with friends? I heard
several gunshots.
The man beside me
suffered a gunshot went to the head. Beside
was
instantly killed,
fell to the bottom of the bleach. Another
woman was... Looked like chic got hidden in
the forearm her hand.
And then at that point in time,
it was rather chaotic at that point because
everyone
half the people were looking because I thought
was fireworks. I knew it was gonna shots
right away.
My friend, you know, hit the deck. I
was kind of looking around just trying to
see where the shots were coming across. Seemed
to me like, the shots were coming from
behind the bleach or. So shots seemed to
be the man got hit in the head.
And that's that's the gist... It goes on
for, like, 6 more minutes, but it's the
same point. And he really stresses that. But
he thought it was from behind them. Right?
So, you know, it's seems people for decipher
for themselves, I just think that nobody wants
to address these things. You know So but
the point about the sniper and the same
is that
if it seems to be a discrepancy between
the timing of when he shot, who shot
him where his body was, how... Nobody wanted
to pay attention that he was there, the
discrepancy around where he bought a ladder bought
ammo and then somehow crawled these things up
on the building, but then you don't see
him moving those things with him on the
building. Right. You're just there's so many things
that just seem
almost like in your face. Right. Inaccurate. Right.
But, you know, but the this is the
time of Internet speculation. Right? So people just
dig everyone's diving in and which is, I
think that's a good thing. As long as
we have discernment and we're willing to go
just because someone pieces something together, we should...
But that's the problem is that the system
is engineering people that want to assume. You
know? And then that's that's for their interest.
You know? Yeah. It's it's interesting. So I...
And what do think so far. The of
these things are pretty inconsistent. Right? Yeah. Yeah
I I have a lot more question than
answers. Yeah. This is. Blair, this this will
give you 1 more question. Mh.
Correct. So that's Sniper team that in the
Ag building there. The first ones that went
up on the roof. So that's interesting right
there. He's saying the Sniper team that was
in the building that he was on. Went
into the bill went up there first. That's
completely contradicted by the local official who said
that local police went up, and then the
whole story about how are they... Right tried
to look and they fell a feet hurt
himself. Right? And it was like a defensive
move and he fell, that completely contradicts that?
Yeah. Isn't that interesting.
It feels a big fall.
It is.
Correct. So last night team there's in the
Ag building there. The first ones that went
up on the roof.
That they were the first 2 encounter that
the dead
sas at that point in time. I guess
you could argue the first and, like, get
up on it and look at him as
opposed to try and falling. Yeah Certainly possible.
I'm later on, other people join them, and,
you know, somebody told them to send the
pictures they had taken
to an Atf agent. Which I think is
very strange. And we we called up that
Atf agent, that that individual
and said that he was with Atf, and
now he's gone dark. We've also reached out
to the secret service agents in charge on
the ground,
all we're getting there is the run. So
we are getting information from local law enforcement,
and we appreciate that. But, unfortunately, federal law
enforcement agent. They're just saying, we'll go through
your congressional liaison Again, that's gonna be unacceptable.
And... I wish I could rely and have
faith in the Fbi and seeking service to
do of of truthful accounting of this. But
that's not been my experience with the Russian
inclusion in hoax and for years, deal with
So what do you think?
Right? I mean, clearly, he could be making
that up. Yeah. Right? But so it's just
taken it face value for conversation. That's pretty
interesting. So he's saying that an age a
a.
It's... A secret service pete went up on
this... On the roof took photographs, which it
seems to be some. It looks like from
a drone, by the way, where were those
during the actual event Yeah. I good to
know. Down. But so the point being that
that he says they then were instructed to
give it to an Atf agent or did,
and then that person is no longer giving
them that information. I mean, it's just it
doesn't... It's just...
I I think if we wanted a reason
to think they want us to feel like
there's something wrong, this would be that. Yeah.
Right. I mean this is just either wildly
and incompetent or deliberately confusing.
Right. Yeah. Well, I think there's a combination
at play obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No more
thoughts?
That
then that, no. I really don't. I mean,
I think they
intentionally want to confuse because this is this
way you...
That's part of, like, what if
info is. Right? Like, they wanna overwhelm and
confused so that people are
over it. Mh
without anything really substantial. It... It's a traumatic
event. You know, I I didn't live through
Jfk, but I've heard from people that it
was traumatic for everyone. You know, whether you
were a Democrat Republican, I mean, to watch
your president be assassinated
incredibly
for traumatic,
traumatic and, you know, earth shattering. And I
think that, again, regardless whether you feel... This
wasn't, you know, fortunately, he survived.
But it's still a very
jarring kind of a moment. I I don't
think it was a huge surprise to people.
Mh. A lot of people. I know I
was told
by... You know, people who work in security,
that sort of thing. They said this gonna
be the summer political assassination. Mh. I I
hope that this was just a, 1 failed
attempt and then we don't see more, but
we were worn that, and, I I think
that if they
suspicious though. Right? Like, 1 being a little.
I mean, like, the idea that this would
be something that would be predicted and floated
both Alex Jones and other people's as well,
which is not hard to point out. You
can see... I, I've heard people say that
about Trump for years now. And finally they
come, you know, so maybe it's just a
statement that gets made every so many months.
And, you know, But to the point is
that you know, we shouldn't also box out
the possibility that there was some level of
engineering in order to benefit Donald Trump. And
I mean, just like, not from any staging
event of at all, like, you know realistically,
if we're talking about something. And let me
be clear, I don't think it's that unlikely
that somebody could have tried to do this
with the intention of trying to scare him
and either shooting a year by... What or
how do you wanna look at that? I
don't, honestly, again, I don't think the evidence
points that way. But the idea that this
has wrap, like, in so many clear ways.
Benefited Trump's cam... Like, I mean, people like
Zuckerberg and others have leaned into him now
in this morning. Like... It's very weird. Bet
he that it was such a Heroic kind
of... It's very strange. Yeah. I, I mean,
it is. And I would argue that that
is the result that it had. I don't
know that that was the intention. However,
I'm just saying in terms of the speculation
that there would be political assassination, I I
do think they're gonna try for more. Mh.
I do think we should be prepared for
that, But all that to say that this
had such a
understandably
reaction from people, whether you like Trump, whether
you didn't like Trump. I mean, the left
was cheering. Oh, my gosh. You know, they
should've have should've have gotten him. I can't
believe they missed and we... Same stuff we
see even the right in their situation. Yeah.
But, I mean, the the... But It's disgusting
not either way. Right. Yeah. The but the
point being, you know, you had... I'm talking
about the reaction. Mh. The... And this isn't
a judgment on, you know, only these people
do Mh. You know, this this is more
of a statement of how
impactful it was. Right. And so would these
the, you know, The Parasite class as I
call them are
masters
of trauma and based mind control. Mh. So
they're taking this incidents, which I would argue
is a mass scale traumatic event. Mh. And
now they're cloud the the space the information
space with lots of
information. You know, some of it, of course,
is legitimate people trying to piece things together
and, you know, some information I think is
being presented as what evidence we have is
real. Mh. But I think that it's also
being cloud
intentionally
because what happens when you have a destabilize,
you know, people who are now demo more
alive are in a position to be stabilized.
Mh. And that's a great breeding gear ground
for programming
for
you know, for them to implement whatever it
is They wanna do next. And, you know,
I I do think that they really do
want to try and polar and create, you
know, whatever kinds of violent tension they can.
And we're talking again, just the deep, whatever
you wanna call it the. Yeah. Exactly. And
I think this is a good breeding ground
for. And I think having people back and
forth arguing over what actually happened. Mh. He's
a a great
I I don't want to... I I'm not
trying to undermine. So I don't I don't
want to be mis when I say it
this way,
but it's a good
I hesitate to even use the word distraction
because not that it's not important. Yeah. I
know what you're getting now. But, you know,
it's a good focal point.
While they're marching on their plans. Right? Right?
And the point... But your... What you were
start what hat,
the... What's our word? Hesitating right there. Is
only because Like, you know, the point being
is that even there... It's always important to
seek out the truth. And do investigation, but
nonetheless, things are still used to keep us
trapped in these cycles. Like, that's why that's
why what we try to strive for is
being objective. Trying to say here's what we
have in front of us here with the
evidence and in a lot of times it
just stalls there. And a lot of people
then just try to make it into something.
Right? Let's pieced this together. Here's what the
story is. Well, sometimes it is. We just
don't know yet, and we may never know.
You know? And so that's where we need
to be. Otherwise, do you get pulled in
like she's talking about. Were you in debating
and arguing was this, no playing plan, you
know, the same thing on 09:11 or Yeah.
Any number of events, which, again, are important
to have these conversations about, but it is
used against you in a lot of ways.
And a lot of times you get people
like this that will muddy the waters. Yeah.
The step in the conversation from side and
and put in some, you know, some convincing
deep fake or something like that the video
we might have seen. And all of a
sudden, you get these arguments about things and
if then that gets mir and you know,
that's how that happened. And the narratives,
get derived from that. Right. Right. You know,
and and I think for me, that's the
most important thing. Is regardless of, you know,
what stance you take or what narrative you
think is accurate? Mh. I I think it's
really important for people not to get caught
up to the point where they play reactionary?
Right. And that's what I think what they're
banking on. Mh. So so... Yeah, You you
ordered it well. That's a... You know, I
I... I'm re. I don't wanna be like,
hello, it's the distraction meaning It's insignificant. It's
more significant. Right? It'd be being significant if
it wasn't even real. I mean, it's a
significant event. It's clearly it's being used as
as all of them always are. But... And
we should seek out the truth and, you,
you know, the reality of the circumstance.
But I think that those all of the
information that's being put there, you know, like,
Me said, they they muddy the waters to
make it look deep. And I think they're
intentionally trying to create a lot of confusion.
Mh. To divide people. Absolutely. Absolutely. Narratives can
grow from there. Yeah. Yeah. Well, good place
to end on today. I think, you know,
it's a it's a great it's an important
conversation of whether this applies to the recent
event or or any other way that they're
trying to convince you whatever we're talking about.
Just people are always out there trying to
manipulate you for their benefit That's just the
way the world works. And there's also good
people try to inform you, You know? They're
out there. So it's I just say important
that we try
to overlook or, you know, ignore as best
we can, the partisan and sides of it
all. And. I know that's really hard for
people because it's it's identity. You become invested
in this. You wanna be a part of
it. You find find a home sometimes. You
find identity in it you find, you know,
comfort in in the side of it all.
You know, and that's that's a big part
of the way they divide us. And, you
know, I... All I'm saying is don't... If
you if you find that comfort in that,
that's that's a good thing, but just make
sure you're still willing to question
even people that are certain within that, You
know? Because people who are certain to sometimes
make mistakes too. Of of course, we all
make mistakes. Right. Yeah. I I mean, I'm
this whole idea of the identity. I mean
that is what Frank for school in. And
they created the identity politics and Right. You
know, is by design. So... And I'll tell
you of, the the what right lu to
pretend like it's only the left and involved
in it is an equal game where they're
both playing regarding to their woke identity paul.
Yeah. As... I think, Daniel Mca said that
underneath the tweet about the whole
cancel culture from the right thing I covered
Greg goes well, they're just to walk with
the right. And it's oh they may... They
hate that like nothing else, but the reality
make that. Doing in the same thing. You
know. The woke right is just as bad.
If not in some ways worse. Right. Yeah.
Right. You know at least you expect it
from the last. Yeah. Let's tell people... Everybody
come to the cognitive liberty conference because we'll
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