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Welcome to Last American Va bond. Joining me

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today again is Brad Miller here in studio

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to discuss a lot of different things. Importantly,

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a letter he recently put out around military

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accountability. We're gonna discuss a little bit possibly

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about the election for an inter interference in

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this country, and the 2 party illusion in

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general, but I'm excited to talk you yet

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again today because I think our conversation was

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important last time. And this is what we'll

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start with today around the idea of the

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Covid 19,

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shot mandates, the conversation of, of, and I

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think the time military personnel, which is your

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story important. I actually wanna start with, you

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know, being kicked out of the military and,

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you know, how this conversation has developed forward,

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then even maybe an overlap with, like, what

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might be coming soon. So first and foremost,

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how are you today, brothers, is good to

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see you? Well, thank you. Appreciate it, Ryan,

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Great to be back with you. I think

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when we when we first spoke was about

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10 months ago or so. So so last

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summer. So,

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yeah. Happy to maybe share some updates and

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have a great chat with you. Yeah. Absolutely,

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man. Well, why don't we start there in

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general Because I think this this is something

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that, you know... Least from our conversations forward

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where your story really started around, you know,

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under in the guise of Covid... Or under

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the conversation of Covid 19 shots and mandates,

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at around being forced to take something rather

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your choice. And I argue is... You know,

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like I I said last time, this is

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what Courage looks like. The idea of truly

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standing against you know, even, you know, a

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system that

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I think a lot of people in that...

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In that position feel is their entire life.

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You know, and then finding a in a

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position where you feel like you're being pushed

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out of it for something you think is

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wrong, and I think that's developed in a

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lot of interesting ways because a lot of

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the stuff we talked about last time,

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has been

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outright been proven to be correct. And we

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knew it was at the time. Right. But

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it's interesting

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evolution of the whole story. So what don't

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we actually start with, you know, a maybe

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a quick overview of what that story was

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and and what your process was through the

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military and refusing the shot? Why And then

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let's get into, you know, where you think

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this is now based on where it came

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from. Yeah. Yeah. So

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so I I graduated from West point, Military

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Academy in 2003. I entered the army.

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I ended up serving a little over 19

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years of active service. So how did it

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end?

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Well, the Covid shot mandate in the military

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went into effect, in August of 20 21.

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And at the time, I was a Battalion

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commander in the hundred and first airborne. So

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there was never a chance I was gonna

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take the shot. I had many reasons like

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like most of us to to question the

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narrative. Right. I was 1 of those who

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questioned the narrative from day 1. But That

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doesn't mean that I was some genius that

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had everything figured out. Mh. That's not what

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I'm saying. But what I am saying is

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I knew that what they were telling us

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was was not the truth. Right? Now and

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there are quite a few of us that

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fall into that category.

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So I was I was never gonna take

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the shot, and I also did not wanna

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be 1 of these commanders that was... Ordering

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other people to take it against their will.

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Truth be told by the time that I

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had taken command, I already had quite a

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large percentage of my Battalion that had already

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chosen to take it. This is before the

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mandate was even in effect.

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That said,

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about 2 months after I took command, the

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mandate went into effect about 2 additional months

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later. I was fired. I was relieved of

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command, For my non compliance with the mandate.

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So that would have been in October of

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in early 20 22, I decided, You know

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what?

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significant,

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you know, infiltration of our military. Mh.

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Something that I was aware of, but but

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the whole Covid op, just really drove the

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point home and it showed me that this

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is so much bigger than even I thought.

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And I had been questioning what was going

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on to the government for a very long

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time.

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But I think the whole Covid op, and

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I... That's what I think it was. Mh.

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Just showed a lot of us that however,

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bad we thought it was. It's worse.

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And the military has chosen to go completely

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along with it. And that's when I said,

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I gotta take the uniform off, because if

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I care about the constitution, which I do.

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And if I care about the oath that

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I took to the constitution, which I do,

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that I'm in this paradox

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situation where in order for me to feel

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loyal to the oath that I took. Mh.

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I actually have to take the uniform off.

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And it and it's not because I have

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something against the institution, the armed forces

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but I very much have something against those

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who are leading this institution in a way

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that is completely anti empathetic. Right. For the

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reason that the institution exists. I mean, there's

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a reason that Armed forces exist, you know,

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and I understand that.

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And I agree with that, but the direction

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that that were headed and the direction the

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military has been in for a very, very

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long time is just something that I can't

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get behind. And Actually Had to take the

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uniform off. And so, my last official day

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in the army was

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09/15/2022.

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and powerful.

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Story. And for... I'll may... I've I'll bring

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up here, make sure people check out that

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first conversation we go into much more depth

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about that background story,

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you know, you making an interesting... You make

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a couple of points there are statements that

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I think are interesting that, you know,

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the... When you swear an oath to the

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constitution, It's interesting that today, People seem the

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same way they kind of seem to con

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complete the idea of your constitutional constitutional rights

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with the government giving you those or taking

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them away. You know, the idea that, you

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know, you're spraying oath to essentially the people

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of this country. Know, not the power structure

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behind the constitution. Yeah. And yet that kind

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of just becomes the fact that you are

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swearing it oath to the government. You know,

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and that's... I think that's 1 of the

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problematic things. And a lot of people even

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going... And I do think most of my

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opinion people that go into the military doing

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it. For the right reasons Sure. They believe

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they're fighting for the right things and they're

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just being lied to. And and yet, even

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those people will probably

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argue that they're swearing a oath to the

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government. Or the power structure. Yeah. You see

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any sense of that when you were serving?

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Yeah. Absolutely. There there's a lot of confusion

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there. And there's even a lot of confusion

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in the military community or the veteran community.

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when we talk about,

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what is our country? Because it it can

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kinda be a ne term? Is it... The

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sum total of the the people, our culture,

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our history, our identity, our customs, You know,

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if you take all that, you kinda pack

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at that together is that our country. That's

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kind of what I I think it is,

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you know?

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But that is completely different than our government.

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So country and government, those are not synonyms.

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Right? Get And so

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when if if you are in uniform, right?

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And you're in an airport or wherever.

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People come up to you, and they say,

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you know, thank you for your service. This

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is something that happens all the time. And

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and and you typically feel grateful for that,

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even if you feel a little bit uncomfortable

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a little bit awkward But you appreciate that

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sentiment that comes from

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Americans that view you as serving your country.

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The the problem though is at some point,

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you may have to ask yourself

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But am I serving my country or am

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I serving the government? Right? Because if I'm

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serving the government that I'm only serving the

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country in as much as the government.

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Is serving the country. Now, in theory,

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we should put in,

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individuals you represent us who act on our

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behalf, and they should be behold to the

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the public. That's Right. That's not the reality

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that we live in. Right? And so, eventually,

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even though I had... A lot of questions

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about what government had been doing for a

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very long time.

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I believed for a lot of my career

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that

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we still need good people in our military,

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and the military is still fundamentally good. What

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Covid showed me was

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the the situation and the gravity of the

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problem are so much more expansive than I

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had thought beforehand

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that I no longer, and this is I

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have friends of mine who have taken a

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slightly different route, and I totally respect, you

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know, their views on this. But for me,

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I thought I can no longer be in

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this organization. Mh. Because it is... It's... Too

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far gone. I no longer have confidence that

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just being a good man in the military

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will will will be enough. I just I

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felt

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I need to take the uniform off. And

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there's actually more that I can do to

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serve my country out of uniform than Mh

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in uniform. And that doesn't mean that I've

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abandoned the military altogether. It's actually just the

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opposite.

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I am trying to save the military from

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itself. Right. But I feel like I can

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do that much more strongly and much more

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effectively out of uniform than in uniform. I

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and I hope maybe, you know, that makes

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sense when I kind of explain it to

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people that's... You know, the if there's... If

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people of some some... And some wrongful thinking

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here.

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When I speak, I'm not speaking on behalf

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of the military. In fact,

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I would like to bear witness to people

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that that I am speaking out against what

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our military is doing. Right. And when I

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say the military, again, I'm not necessarily talking,

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in the collective of, you know, the institution.

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It's it's... No. We have people that are

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running the institution and they're in my mind

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deliberately

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or or at least coward running and in

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a direction that is entirely ini

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to the reason that the armed forces exist

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into the, you know, the the stated structure

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of our government. Right. Right Exactly. I mean,

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it's... They're acting in the... Out... They're not

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acting in the interest of the American people.

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Correct. Just the whole point of what the

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supposed to what they present to the American

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I think that makes perfect sense. And I

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think that... Yeah. I'm mean... I... And maybe

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both actions in different ways can help change

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the situation? But I think I I would

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be probably taking the exact same route that

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you are. Because my thought is

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in the military. Even knowing what was happening

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would still positively change it. Maybe they would

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resist the wrong orders. Right? But I think

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what you're saying makes the most sense because

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putting good people in those positions gives a

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positive and ear to what they're doing and

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also... Allows them to potentially use these good

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people for bad things. And I think that's

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a problem. You know. Yeah. But yeah. Think

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that I think that's a really important thing.

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I'm constantly talking about that on the show

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about, the government is not the country. Right?

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And these are separate concepts and that we

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have to recognize that, you know, the government

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is simply an an entity that is supposed

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to be behold in to the country, and

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that's not how it works. Yeah. They're telling

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us we have to be behold to the

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government. And I think that's kind of the

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premise for a lot of these things we're

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discussing today that we're realizing these,

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for for the first time for a lot

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of people. They've never even thought about this.

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And we can get into why I think

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that might be in regard to foreign things

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going on in the world, but I just

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think that's powerful. Yeah. Well, thank you. And

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you're right. You know, government should be subs

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serving to the country. You know, the the

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states created the federal government. We can look

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at, you know, the the role... People have

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within their respective states, etcetera, but what we

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have seen is a complete inversion That. Right?

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Right? Well, I wanted to... The I I

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think it's interesting. I wanna make a point

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for go past the opening stuff here that

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that I've I've referenced a video. I think

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it's by Simon Sane many times in the

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past. Really the whole thing's mostly about the

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chemical makeup of our brains and how these

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things are important and manipulated, and we're not

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really taught about it, but it makes it

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a really pricey point about about leadership. And

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I think it's so important and what you

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were... What you're highlighting. Right? Is is what

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I think real leadership is. Somebody who's... It

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doesn't necessarily mean who's in power or in

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charge. Right? And that's kind of proven today

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by the rulers leadership We have, not the

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leadership as that most leaders are people that

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would,

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put themselves in the path of danger to

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protect. The people, not let the people be

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in front of them in regard to protecting

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the government from the danger. Right? He makes

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this this example about, you know, tribal,

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entities, and the idea being that that's what

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I just described is that the a real

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leader would be in out in front, making

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sure that the tribe is safe as opposed

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to the other way around, and I think

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what we're seeing is the exact opposite from

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the government today. You know, where it's... And

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I think that's important. So I think we

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all need to reflect on what real leadership

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actually is. And Don't think we're seeing that

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in our governments. And really anybody that's running

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for

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president and so on going forward.

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Unless you have any more comments on that.

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I'd like... Let's let's talk about the

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Covid 19 operation as you discussed. Right? And

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and if you wanna get into more... Any

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more thoughts on that, I think people are

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interested to hear what you mean by what...

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An operation or what you share around there.

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Yeah. But let's talk about after that as

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well, you know, where we are currently

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because to a lot of people, this is

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just oh, that old Covid story. Right? Like,

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it's just no longer even a thing anymore?

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And it's like, I think they're shockingly wrong

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about that, and I'm worried about where it's

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going next. So wherever where you'd like to

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start? Yeah. I'll talk about kind of some

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things that are going on in the military

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accountability.

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Movement. And then I'll maybe give what I

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think is maybe a a more macro view

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as to what I think is going on

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kinda with the Covid up, Mh. Which is

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the term that I use, and I use

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that very deliberately,

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and we can go from there. So

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an update that I would give to the

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military accountability movement that has happened, since we

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last spoke is,

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is the release of a document called the

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declaration of military accountability, which was released on

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01/01/2024.

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And so this document

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is actually the brainchild of a good friend

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of mine who is currently serving in the

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military. So he is he's a commander in

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the navy. He's a graduate the naval Academy.

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He's a he's a just a fantastic guys

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name is Rob Greene.

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So Rob Greene wrote a book that was

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published last year, appropriately enough it was released

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on 07/04/2023.

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And that book is called defending the constitution

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behind enemy The lines. And it it tells

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the story of

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the service member who is kinda suffering

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amid this mandate and and having, you know,

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his rights to private, etcetera. So he kinda

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tells the service member story whether that service

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member is you know, a soldier in the

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army, whether he's a marine or, you know,

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whatever, because it was... You know, the these

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were blanket mandates.

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Subsequent to the release of his book.

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He's

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he he kinda starts thinking to himself. Okay.

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What's next? What's our next move? So he

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came up with this idea to penn

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an open letter to the American public. And

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we ended up slapping the title of declaration

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of military accountability on it. But but he

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wrote it. And then he shared it. He

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shared the initial draft with a couple of

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close friends, and I was 1 of those.

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And so

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So we looked at it, maybe made just

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a a little bit of a couple edits

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to it. We can condensed the language a

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little bit. And that we got that type

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1 page. That it is now. And if

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anyone wants defined, you can find that at

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military accountability dot net.

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Bring on the screen forms? Sure. So once

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we got to what this is actually gonna

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look like

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that

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We had to figure out, okay, well, how

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do we roll this out? And so,

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Rob said to me. He's like, hey, Brad.

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I think I think you're the guy that

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rolls this out. And,

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And I, I think you're right. I'm I'm

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already out of the military. I mean, I

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even have a pension they can take away.

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Right. I'm certainly not still in uniform Yeah.

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I think you're right. Like, I think I'm

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the 1 who rolls this out.

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In the meantime, we had gotten 231,

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either currently serving service members or veterans,

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to very courageous put their names on the

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documents. So if you go to the document,

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you'll see the 1 page draft, you'll see

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11 pages

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of a total of 231

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sign who put their names on the document.

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And then on that website, you will also

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see a pledge associated

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with the declaration that anybody can sign. You

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don't have to have any affiliation with with

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the military whatsoever,

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you can sign that pledge If you believe

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that what happens in the military is important

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to what happens in the country, or if

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you understand that often what happens in the

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military serves, is a way point along the

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trajectory of what happens in our nation as

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a whole.

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So if if you if you check that

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out at military accountability dot net and the

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language resonates with you, then I would encourage

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anybody out there, you know, slap your name

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on that pledge. And you can sign it

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at the at the website. But So, Robin

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and I had this conversation, and we came

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up with the idea that I was gonna

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roll this out. So what did that look

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like? And what was the date?

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All this was kinda happening in November and

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December. And so we just decided that, hey,

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you know, January first is the is the

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day. I mean, you know, It's the new

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year.

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Everyone kinda knows 20 24 is gonna be

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a big year, whether it's because it's an

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election year or just whatever. But 20 24

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is gonna be a big year. We're gonna

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hit the ground running, and we are going

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to try and

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and and kinda get in front of this

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as quickly as possible. So early in the

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morning on January first, I sent an email,

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to the chairman of the joint chiefs, which,

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of course, is the highest ranking, you know,

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uniformed military service member that we have in

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the country. And

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and a handful of other senior leaders to

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include other chiefs of staff of the of

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the respective service branches, etcetera. And in that

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email,

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I, of course attached

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copy of of the declaration military accountability.

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And in the email, I said,

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basically,

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this is just to inform you that we

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are about to release this to the public.

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Because at the end of the day, the

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declaration is not addressed to the senior military

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leaders. Right. It's addressed to the American public,

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but it very much covers

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the unlawful and harmful activities that our military

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leaders have been engaged in. But I sent

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this email to basically inform that,

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informed them that, hey, this document is about

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to hit the streets as it were. Right?

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I sent that email about 4AM

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Dc time early in the morning on January

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first when everybody's still recovering from, you know,

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New Year's Eve activities.

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But we wanted to get ahead of this,

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You know? And

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and then I turned around a couple of

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minutes later, and I put it into a

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a post on Twitter.

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And

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and it it just immediately generated a lot

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of traction. And ended up being seen,

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you know, I don't know. It's, like, 4

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and a half million times now or or

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or so. But the majority of those views,

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you happened within the first week, and and

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a substantial number of them happened that first

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day, You know, on January first, so many

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that we held a Twitter spaces event that

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very night because it had already generated so

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much momentum

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just that first day. And

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and since then, you know, we... So what's

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our message in the declaration of military accountability?

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It's pretty simple. It is

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you, you know, senior military leaders or actually,

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it's really addressed the American Public, But it

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basically says, Senior military leaders

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have

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violated their Oath of the constitution. They broken

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the law. They've also circumvent the military own

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regulations. And we, the 231

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sign

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are not going to stand by and passively

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allow this to happen. And therefore we are

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00:17:57,662 --> 00:17:57,981
appealing,

531
00:17:58,634 --> 00:18:00,791
to the people. Now. I love that. I

532
00:18:00,791 --> 00:18:02,789
mean, it's it's important. Well, I think there's

533
00:18:02,789 --> 00:18:05,026
a lot of questions there. Well, first directing

534
00:18:05,026 --> 00:18:06,879
for the people. Was that? For any other

535
00:18:06,879 --> 00:18:08,876
reason then than just wanting it to be

536
00:18:08,876 --> 00:18:10,954
able to people or did that... III thought

537
00:18:10,954 --> 00:18:12,872
was if it was emailed or sent to

538
00:18:12,872 --> 00:18:14,150
them, there might be some kind of an

539
00:18:14,150 --> 00:18:15,998
issue with hosting it out for the people

540
00:18:15,998 --> 00:18:17,669
because it was a personal correspondence or anything

541
00:18:17,669 --> 00:18:18,943
around that Or was it just to aim

542
00:18:18,943 --> 00:18:19,978
at the people so they could see it

543
00:18:19,978 --> 00:18:22,127
as well. Yeah. So I mean, in terms

544
00:18:22,127 --> 00:18:24,116
of the correspondence, you know, I've never disclosed

545
00:18:24,116 --> 00:18:25,879
the extra correspondence between me and any of

546
00:18:25,879 --> 00:18:27,308
the senior military leaders. Oh by the way,

547
00:18:27,626 --> 00:18:29,135
I never got any replies to that email.

548
00:18:29,373 --> 00:18:29,849
Okay. Figure.

549
00:18:30,723 --> 00:18:33,105
But but the actual correspondence in the email,

550
00:18:33,343 --> 00:18:34,948
not that there's correspondence really much there than

551
00:18:34,948 --> 00:18:35,981
anybody would care to see it, but I

552
00:18:35,981 --> 00:18:37,333
never disclosed that anyway. Mh.

553
00:18:38,844 --> 00:18:41,229
But the document that was attached is just

554
00:18:41,229 --> 00:18:43,589
the declaration of military accountability, which Right. Which

555
00:18:43,709 --> 00:18:45,383
Of course, I did. That's what I uploaded.

556
00:18:45,622 --> 00:18:47,615
I didn't upload the whole text of the

557
00:18:47,615 --> 00:18:49,926
email, but just the document itself is is

558
00:18:49,926 --> 00:18:51,361
is all we've ever disclosed.

559
00:18:52,253 --> 00:18:53,848
But, yeah, But it is... It is an

560
00:18:53,848 --> 00:18:55,863
open letter to the American people. And

561
00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,953
to your question about, well, what's the purpose

562
00:18:58,953 --> 00:19:01,505
or the objective behind appealing to the people?

563
00:19:02,876 --> 00:19:04,950
There are a couple. First and foremost, if

564
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:07,125
you read the declaration in military accountability,

565
00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:09,655
you will notice and this is deliberate, you

566
00:19:09,655 --> 00:19:11,432
will notice that it is written

567
00:19:11,982 --> 00:19:13,969
in kind of the voice in the spirit

568
00:19:13,969 --> 00:19:14,469
of

569
00:19:14,843 --> 00:19:17,465
the founding documents. Mh. Of our country. Right.

570
00:19:17,624 --> 00:19:18,124
Principally

571
00:19:18,499 --> 00:19:20,565
the declaration of independence. And that is intentional.

572
00:19:20,818 --> 00:19:23,364
And that is the idea that Rob Greene

573
00:19:23,364 --> 00:19:25,671
hat. So if you read Rob Greene book,

574
00:19:26,387 --> 00:19:28,550
you, he opens each chapter of the book

575
00:19:28,550 --> 00:19:29,982
with a with an epi graph there will

576
00:19:29,982 --> 00:19:31,256
be a quotation from 1 of the founding

577
00:19:31,256 --> 00:19:33,087
fathers. And then a lot of times he

578
00:19:33,087 --> 00:19:34,917
will open with some sort of anecdote from

579
00:19:34,917 --> 00:19:37,407
the founding period. Mh. And then go into

580
00:19:37,559 --> 00:19:39,309
whatever his message for that chapter is, you

581
00:19:39,309 --> 00:19:41,536
know, as it applies currently to what's going

582
00:19:41,536 --> 00:19:43,366
on with with Covid in the shot mandate,

583
00:19:43,604 --> 00:19:43,843
etcetera.

584
00:19:44,733 --> 00:19:46,966
So him being the author of the declaration

585
00:19:46,966 --> 00:19:49,678
of military accountability as well, he's kinda writing

586
00:19:49,678 --> 00:19:51,432
it in that same spirit. And he draws

587
00:19:51,432 --> 00:19:53,606
some very direct linkage between

588
00:19:53,997 --> 00:19:56,137
what's going on with this and what happened

589
00:19:56,137 --> 00:19:58,514
with the declaration of independence. Now, again, we're

590
00:19:58,514 --> 00:19:59,173
not seeking

591
00:19:59,703 --> 00:20:00,837
independence necessarily

592
00:20:01,384 --> 00:20:02,441
But we are

593
00:20:03,055 --> 00:20:06,000
communicating a long train of abuses. Mh. If

594
00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,433
you will, which was 1 of the driving

595
00:20:07,433 --> 00:20:09,598
factors behind the declaration of independence. Well, that

596
00:20:09,598 --> 00:20:11,273
we are kinda doing. Right. We are saying

597
00:20:11,273 --> 00:20:12,948
there's been a long train of abuses here.

598
00:20:13,586 --> 00:20:16,798
The military has always been a highly respected

599
00:20:17,494 --> 00:20:18,611
institution vis vis the public.

600
00:20:19,264 --> 00:20:21,198
It's also 1 of our most important

601
00:20:21,574 --> 00:20:21,813
institutions,

602
00:20:22,610 --> 00:20:23,110
and

603
00:20:24,044 --> 00:20:26,035
obviously, because of military might sure.

604
00:20:26,765 --> 00:20:28,271
Sure. But I think it also goes deeper

605
00:20:28,271 --> 00:20:29,405
than that. It's mh

606
00:20:29,777 --> 00:20:31,625
understanding that the military has also been

607
00:20:31,997 --> 00:20:33,528
a bastion of

608
00:20:34,393 --> 00:20:34,893
American

609
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:37,663
ethos, kind of this cultural identity that we

610
00:20:37,663 --> 00:20:39,019
have had as a nation. Mh.

611
00:20:40,136 --> 00:20:42,369
And that can be positive, but that can

612
00:20:42,369 --> 00:20:43,667
also be weaponized

613
00:20:44,297 --> 00:20:47,161
against the country, and I think has. And

614
00:20:47,241 --> 00:20:49,309
I think if you're going to attack America

615
00:20:49,309 --> 00:20:51,474
the nation, you've gotta to attack the military.

616
00:20:51,634 --> 00:20:53,714
And again, it's it's for reasons that extend

617
00:20:53,714 --> 00:20:55,714
far beyond just military might. Mh. There's like

618
00:20:55,714 --> 00:20:57,335
a... It's it's

619
00:20:57,634 --> 00:20:58,134
understanding

620
00:20:58,528 --> 00:20:59,028
the

621
00:20:59,483 --> 00:21:02,187
military is a is a cultural pillar and

622
00:21:02,187 --> 00:21:04,017
trying to knock that out. Right. So also

623
00:21:04,017 --> 00:21:06,100
kinda weaken in the nation, that I I

624
00:21:06,100 --> 00:21:08,566
think, our enemies have understood and that weeds

625
00:21:08,566 --> 00:21:10,237
to some degree have got to combat against.

626
00:21:10,475 --> 00:21:10,975
But

627
00:21:12,479 --> 00:21:14,711
You know, there are there are certain overarching

628
00:21:14,711 --> 00:21:16,146
theories that have been around for a couple

629
00:21:16,146 --> 00:21:16,545
of years,

630
00:21:17,342 --> 00:21:20,212
that basically state is their core operating principle

631
00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:20,611
that, hey,

632
00:21:21,264 --> 00:21:23,100
the military got this and the military is

633
00:21:23,100 --> 00:21:24,936
full of, you know, good guys, and don't

634
00:21:24,936 --> 00:21:26,851
worry, you know, the military is handling this.

635
00:21:27,490 --> 00:21:29,645
And, unfortunately, people saw,

636
00:21:30,220 --> 00:21:33,500
our declaration of military accountability as evidence that

637
00:21:33,500 --> 00:21:34,059
that is true.

638
00:21:35,180 --> 00:21:36,220
And what I would say is,

639
00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:39,555
no. It's an indicator of the exact opposite

640
00:21:39,594 --> 00:21:41,901
it. Right. We're not. We're not speaking for

641
00:21:41,901 --> 00:21:44,708
the military. Right. We we are literally saying

642
00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,288
the military is it standing against the constitution.

643
00:21:48,447 --> 00:21:49,986
Mh. And against

644
00:21:50,365 --> 00:21:52,523
the American... You know, our our American countrymen.

645
00:21:52,763 --> 00:21:54,840
Right. And that's what we're saying. The military

646
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,775
as the

647
00:21:56,214 --> 00:21:57,890
entity, not the military as the people within

648
00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:59,406
the military Right. Yeah Yeah. Just make that

649
00:21:59,406 --> 00:22:01,003
clear. Exactly. And and I am...

650
00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,717
You know, I'm a 1 of a patriotic

651
00:22:03,797 --> 00:22:04,835
American that's why I do what I do.

652
00:22:05,167 --> 00:22:06,200
You know, and and 2,

653
00:22:06,914 --> 00:22:08,423
I'm very proud to be a West graduate.

654
00:22:08,582 --> 00:22:10,329
I'm very proud to have served 19 years

655
00:22:10,329 --> 00:22:13,346
in the army. And under different circumstances, you

656
00:22:13,346 --> 00:22:14,870
know, I would I would Still be in.

657
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:15,426
Mh.

658
00:22:17,969 --> 00:22:20,375
What that doesn't mean that I I can

659
00:22:21,559 --> 00:22:23,234
But there comes a point where you just

660
00:22:23,234 --> 00:22:24,988
have to acknowledge that the military is being

661
00:22:24,988 --> 00:22:25,488
run

662
00:22:25,945 --> 00:22:26,445
by

663
00:22:26,822 --> 00:22:28,816
people who for for whatever reasons, we can

664
00:22:28,816 --> 00:22:30,330
certainly talk about some my ideas on why

665
00:22:30,410 --> 00:22:31,700
I think this. Is happening. But,

666
00:22:32,577 --> 00:22:34,887
at some point, you know, they are running

667
00:22:34,887 --> 00:22:36,480
the military and using the military in a

668
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,110
way that is that I I can't count

669
00:22:39,110 --> 00:22:40,799
it's and I can't be. Is a part

670
00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:43,277
of. Right. Right. But I don't represent, you

671
00:22:43,277 --> 00:22:45,355
know, the the the military. This is kinda

672
00:22:45,355 --> 00:22:46,873
why I mentioned what I just did about

673
00:22:46,873 --> 00:22:47,373
how,

674
00:22:47,752 --> 00:22:49,611
you know, some people were mis

675
00:22:50,643 --> 00:22:52,794
the declaration military accountability. And they were seeing

676
00:22:52,794 --> 00:22:54,706
it as evidence, like, oh, the military got

677
00:22:54,706 --> 00:22:56,299
this. Mh. And what we're saying is,

678
00:22:57,733 --> 00:23:00,376
no. If the military had this, we would

679
00:23:00,376 --> 00:23:02,205
not be in a situation where we've had

680
00:23:02,205 --> 00:23:04,671
to do what we've done. Yeah. Exactly. Well,

681
00:23:04,830 --> 00:23:06,660
this is the larger point about whether it's...

682
00:23:06,834 --> 00:23:09,221
Foreign policy or whether it's domestic policy in

683
00:23:09,221 --> 00:23:10,972
regard to the Covid 19 mandates and, you

684
00:23:10,972 --> 00:23:13,360
know, operation warp speed, you know, there's definitely...

685
00:23:13,837 --> 00:23:15,444
I just simple put it simply that the

686
00:23:15,444 --> 00:23:17,195
the military or our government in general is

687
00:23:17,195 --> 00:23:20,378
acting wildly outside the constitution that representing or

688
00:23:20,458 --> 00:23:23,721
Yeah. Respecting our god given ina constitutional the

689
00:23:23,721 --> 00:23:25,491
rights. And I think that that has gotten

690
00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:28,203
so rampant, even domestically first and foremost, but

691
00:23:28,203 --> 00:23:30,996
then worldwide in the same way. The international

692
00:23:30,996 --> 00:23:32,525
law, you know, and so I think this

693
00:23:32,525 --> 00:23:34,617
is very important. And I think that

694
00:23:35,152 --> 00:23:36,745
it's... I agree. I'm glad you made the

695
00:23:36,745 --> 00:23:38,577
distinction. It's not you're not necessarily calling for

696
00:23:38,577 --> 00:23:41,142
independence because of course, even, you even if

697
00:23:41,142 --> 00:23:43,534
justified the government would frame that is interaction

698
00:23:43,534 --> 00:23:45,209
or, you know, whatever else. But the idea

699
00:23:45,209 --> 00:23:46,406
that we are at a moment. Where at

700
00:23:46,406 --> 00:23:49,059
this inflection point where Americans are becoming rapidly

701
00:23:49,117 --> 00:23:49,915
aware of this problem,

702
00:23:50,409 --> 00:23:52,965
and realizing they've had this, you know, they

703
00:23:52,965 --> 00:23:54,563
pulled over their eyes this entire time about,

704
00:23:54,723 --> 00:23:56,480
you know, these rose cover glasses about everything

705
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:57,934
they've been doing. And you can look back

706
00:23:57,934 --> 00:23:59,771
through history and, you know, even by their

707
00:23:59,771 --> 00:24:01,529
own accounts and realize that we haven't been

708
00:24:01,529 --> 00:24:02,967
doing what we've been told we've been doing.

709
00:24:03,127 --> 00:24:04,645
And I think that something like this is

710
00:24:04,645 --> 00:24:06,729
necessary. To show the people that won, we

711
00:24:06,729 --> 00:24:08,957
do need change in that military personnel or

712
00:24:08,957 --> 00:24:11,263
former are seeing it and that it's on

713
00:24:11,263 --> 00:24:11,763
them

714
00:24:12,074 --> 00:24:13,830
to make this change. Right? I think that's

715
00:24:13,830 --> 00:24:15,986
what's important because if we believe what we're

716
00:24:15,986 --> 00:24:17,263
told about this country or the way it

717
00:24:17,263 --> 00:24:19,339
process and the way it works that we

718
00:24:19,339 --> 00:24:21,906
would have the ability, the authority to change

719
00:24:21,906 --> 00:24:23,577
this and the ways we thought necessary, but

720
00:24:23,737 --> 00:24:25,328
I argue that's not how the government sees

721
00:24:25,328 --> 00:24:26,840
it. You know? So I think this is

722
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,242
an important conversation. So I commend the effort,

723
00:24:29,322 --> 00:24:30,833
and I'm and I'm glad to see that

724
00:24:30,833 --> 00:24:32,742
this is getting more traction, you know? Good

725
00:24:32,742 --> 00:24:34,094
ahead. Yeah. Let me just make 1 more

726
00:24:34,094 --> 00:24:34,492
point on that.

727
00:24:36,019 --> 00:24:37,857
So on my, you know, on my, on

728
00:24:37,857 --> 00:24:38,496
my Twitter,

729
00:24:39,375 --> 00:24:40,494
I've never been 1 to call it x.

730
00:24:40,653 --> 00:24:42,811
So... Thanks anybody. Yes. So so anyway.

731
00:24:44,344 --> 00:24:46,421
So... And I'm fairly active on there. So

732
00:24:46,421 --> 00:24:47,620
if people wanna find that, they can just

733
00:24:47,620 --> 00:24:49,138
find it at my name, just Brad Miller

734
00:24:49,138 --> 00:24:50,736
01:01 0. And

735
00:24:52,028 --> 00:24:53,616
and it's funny because people sometimes ask me,

736
00:24:53,696 --> 00:24:55,920
like, what's the 01:01 0? Well, I mean,

737
00:24:56,237 --> 00:24:58,064
I was born on October tenth. Like, that's

738
00:24:58,064 --> 00:24:59,732
literally it... That's literally all that is. There's

739
00:24:59,732 --> 00:25:02,054
no... There's no there's no, like, phoenix there.

740
00:25:02,293 --> 00:25:03,964
Yeah. Yeah. So now, you know, if you

741
00:25:03,964 --> 00:25:05,238
wanna know my, you know, semi gifts.

742
00:25:06,670 --> 00:25:06,988
So

743
00:25:08,739 --> 00:25:09,239
so

744
00:25:10,588 --> 00:25:11,945
I'm fairly active on there. And I and

745
00:25:12,025 --> 00:25:13,961
I I put out a a post

746
00:25:14,499 --> 00:25:16,197
fairly recently that generated

747
00:25:16,575 --> 00:25:18,810
quite a bit of controversy interestingly enough. Mh.

748
00:25:19,224 --> 00:25:20,819
And it was a post that I put

749
00:25:20,819 --> 00:25:24,727
out on June tenth. Well, 06/10/2024

750
00:25:24,727 --> 00:25:26,243
would be the 3 year anniversary from the

751
00:25:26,243 --> 00:25:28,396
day that I took command. So I assumed

752
00:25:28,396 --> 00:25:30,243
command of the battalion that I would later

753
00:25:30,243 --> 00:25:31,221
be relieved from

754
00:25:31,675 --> 00:25:33,267
on 06/10/2021.

755
00:25:33,824 --> 00:25:35,655
So I put out a post and I

756
00:25:35,655 --> 00:25:37,644
kind of just remarked, like, hey 3 years

757
00:25:37,644 --> 00:25:39,093
ago, you know, I... To command.

758
00:25:39,731 --> 00:25:41,725
Here's what happened blah blah blah. And,

759
00:25:42,522 --> 00:25:44,596
a lot of people responded. So it it

760
00:25:44,596 --> 00:25:46,749
ended up getting about 11000 comments. And a

761
00:25:46,749 --> 00:25:48,319
lot of the comments are very supportive. The

762
00:25:48,839 --> 00:25:50,359
And then, you know, of course, they're gonna

763
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:52,440
be bots they're gonna be plants. Like, I

764
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,440
understand that. But there were also quite a

765
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,612
few comments that I know were from. Real

766
00:25:56,612 --> 00:25:58,677
people. Mh. Like, because I and kinda know

767
00:25:58,677 --> 00:25:59,551
who they are. And

768
00:26:00,505 --> 00:26:01,481
and they were

769
00:26:01,935 --> 00:26:02,753
in rabbit

770
00:26:03,127 --> 00:26:04,716
opposition to the decision that I had made,

771
00:26:05,049 --> 00:26:06,330
which of course is fine. You know, people

772
00:26:06,330 --> 00:26:07,610
can have their own opinions. This is about

773
00:26:07,610 --> 00:26:09,529
the Covid 19 mandate show. This is about

774
00:26:09,529 --> 00:26:10,970
this is about the decisions, you know, that

775
00:26:11,130 --> 00:26:12,350
I made to ultimately

776
00:26:13,210 --> 00:26:15,619
disobey an order, which is true. Yeah. Of

777
00:26:15,619 --> 00:26:17,210
course, you know, we would argue from our

778
00:26:17,210 --> 00:26:19,199
side that that... If the order was unlawful,

779
00:26:19,517 --> 00:26:22,157
you know, and ultimately destructive. And I would

780
00:26:22,157 --> 00:26:23,987
even tell you that it was also treason,

781
00:26:24,384 --> 00:26:25,998
which is something that I believed

782
00:26:26,373 --> 00:26:27,646
at the time. Mh. Now...

783
00:26:28,934 --> 00:26:30,686
It would have been difficult for me to

784
00:26:30,686 --> 00:26:33,257
articulate that 3 years ago. Mh. Because

785
00:26:34,031 --> 00:26:36,102
it would have been... We we know a

786
00:26:36,102 --> 00:26:37,616
lot more than we than we knew then.

787
00:26:38,029 --> 00:26:40,022
But also, it would have been hard for

788
00:26:40,022 --> 00:26:41,696
me to articulate it to people that are

789
00:26:41,696 --> 00:26:43,153
just operating from a worldview

790
00:26:43,530 --> 00:26:45,762
in which they think that something like that

791
00:26:45,762 --> 00:26:45,921
is...

792
00:26:46,892 --> 00:26:48,882
Impossible. Mh. Totally in feasible. Right?

793
00:26:49,758 --> 00:26:51,429
But that doesn't mean that I didn't necessarily

794
00:26:51,429 --> 00:26:52,702
think that that's what was going on in

795
00:26:52,702 --> 00:26:54,533
in some fashion, even if I didn't necessarily

796
00:26:54,533 --> 00:26:55,807
have all the answers as to why. Right?

797
00:26:55,966 --> 00:26:56,046
Right?

798
00:26:57,097 --> 00:26:58,533
But anyway, so I I put in this

799
00:26:58,533 --> 00:27:00,766
post, hey, this is what happened. You know,

800
00:27:01,005 --> 00:27:02,521
this was kind of a difficult time in

801
00:27:02,521 --> 00:27:04,196
my career in a couple of days leading

802
00:27:04,196 --> 00:27:06,051
up to assuming command because

803
00:27:07,242 --> 00:27:08,600
I knew when I took command of that

804
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,797
battalion, I was going to be fired. I

805
00:27:09,797 --> 00:27:11,734
mean Knew that. And and

806
00:27:12,113 --> 00:27:14,188
when you take Battalion command, you should hold

807
00:27:14,188 --> 00:27:15,625
the position for 24 months.

808
00:27:16,279 --> 00:27:17,079
I held it for 4.

809
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,000
I mean, I did not last very long

810
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:21,000
at all. Before the mandate went to effect.

811
00:27:21,399 --> 00:27:22,839
I knew it was gonna... The mandate was

812
00:27:22,839 --> 00:27:24,932
gonna go into effect any day. It ended

813
00:27:24,932 --> 00:27:26,523
up going into effect about 2 months after

814
00:27:26,603 --> 00:27:28,512
I took command an additional 2 months later.

815
00:27:28,671 --> 00:27:30,740
I ended up being relieved. But, anyway, I

816
00:27:30,740 --> 00:27:32,172
put some thoughts into a post to generate

817
00:27:32,172 --> 00:27:33,149
a lot of controversy.

818
00:27:33,619 --> 00:27:35,130
And and a lot of people, they just

819
00:27:35,130 --> 00:27:37,278
thought that, you know, when you join the

820
00:27:37,278 --> 00:27:39,346
military, you follow orders. That is true. Mh.

821
00:27:39,664 --> 00:27:40,482
And and

822
00:27:40,793 --> 00:27:42,384
Do you have to follow orders that you

823
00:27:42,384 --> 00:27:43,975
do not like or you do not agree

824
00:27:43,975 --> 00:27:45,725
with? Yes, you do. You do not get

825
00:27:45,725 --> 00:27:48,289
to disobey orders just because you disagree with

826
00:27:48,289 --> 00:27:50,126
them. I mean politically, for example, that wouldn't

827
00:27:50,126 --> 00:27:51,964
apply. Yeah Yeah. Or because you think that

828
00:27:51,964 --> 00:27:53,801
it might put you in, you know, undue

829
00:27:53,801 --> 00:27:54,760
danger. Here's the thing.

830
00:27:55,571 --> 00:27:57,640
When you, you know, volunteer your force. So

831
00:27:57,719 --> 00:27:58,855
I mean, you kinda know

832
00:27:59,310 --> 00:28:00,423
kinda know what you're signing up for when

833
00:28:00,423 --> 00:28:01,696
you sign up for the military. And I

834
00:28:01,696 --> 00:28:04,740
mean, it does potentially involve, some significant danger.

835
00:28:04,900 --> 00:28:07,779
Right Right? And you can't... Because of the

836
00:28:07,779 --> 00:28:08,420
nature of the mission,

837
00:28:09,299 --> 00:28:11,220
yes. You need a military that is built

838
00:28:11,220 --> 00:28:12,992
upon good order and discipline. Absolutely. And it

839
00:28:12,992 --> 00:28:16,443
has be predicated upon following orders. And sometimes

840
00:28:16,581 --> 00:28:17,400
that means

841
00:28:17,778 --> 00:28:19,054
you just kinda told what to do. And

842
00:28:19,054 --> 00:28:20,569
you gotta do it because you're part of

843
00:28:20,569 --> 00:28:21,526
a large operation,

844
00:28:22,259 --> 00:28:24,179
And if you fail to perform your part,

845
00:28:24,339 --> 00:28:26,819
you could significantly hamper, you know, the entire

846
00:28:26,819 --> 00:28:27,940
operation. So I think we get all that?

847
00:28:28,259 --> 00:28:30,900
Mh. There is a significant caveat.

848
00:28:31,234 --> 00:28:34,375
Though, 2 following orders. And the military itself

849
00:28:34,515 --> 00:28:36,695
teaches its service members this and it actually

850
00:28:36,755 --> 00:28:38,434
does a pretty good job of even teaching

851
00:28:38,434 --> 00:28:40,329
very young junior service members that

852
00:28:40,849 --> 00:28:43,490
Not only are you not obligated to follow

853
00:28:43,490 --> 00:28:46,609
1 lawful orders? Right. You actually are obligated

854
00:28:46,609 --> 00:28:47,890
to stand up and refuse.

855
00:28:48,384 --> 00:28:49,975
To follow those. Price, they still teach that

856
00:28:49,975 --> 00:28:51,726
though. I think you're saying. Well, Mean, maybe

857
00:28:51,726 --> 00:28:52,624
they're gonna have to stop.

858
00:28:54,829 --> 00:28:55,329
So

859
00:28:55,958 --> 00:28:58,341
Now now, I understand him people can qui

860
00:28:58,341 --> 00:29:00,327
over whether or not the order was unlawful.

861
00:29:00,724 --> 00:29:02,472
And we can have that discussion and we

862
00:29:02,472 --> 00:29:03,266
can have that debate.

863
00:29:04,393 --> 00:29:05,824
But people who think,

864
00:29:06,460 --> 00:29:09,402
no. You follow orders, period full stop. Mh.

865
00:29:09,561 --> 00:29:12,185
And some of these individuals either currently serve

866
00:29:12,185 --> 00:29:14,508
or our veterans, it's like... Hey, Listen.

867
00:29:15,546 --> 00:29:17,541
You have failed to learn 1 of the

868
00:29:17,541 --> 00:29:19,376
most important lessons you could have ever learned

869
00:29:19,536 --> 00:29:21,770
Right. During your military service. If you think,

870
00:29:22,184 --> 00:29:24,120
that you are duty bound to follow

871
00:29:24,497 --> 00:29:26,890
any conceivable order that could potentially be handed

872
00:29:26,890 --> 00:29:28,485
down to you. Right. Well, the whole thing

873
00:29:28,485 --> 00:29:30,320
you're discussing, which is what the point you're

874
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,669
making is it's it's built on the assumption

875
00:29:32,964 --> 00:29:35,272
that everything they're doing is within the law

876
00:29:35,272 --> 00:29:37,340
is within the interest of the American people

877
00:29:37,340 --> 00:29:38,932
or the military. Yeah. And you can prove

878
00:29:38,932 --> 00:29:40,046
that that's not the case and a lot

879
00:29:40,046 --> 00:29:41,493
of, like what we're talking about you know?

880
00:29:41,653 --> 00:29:43,247
And so if you're talking about the idea

881
00:29:43,247 --> 00:29:46,118
of, you know, an unlawful order being allowed

882
00:29:46,118 --> 00:29:48,111
to be refused. I mean, this is a

883
00:29:48,111 --> 00:29:50,438
huge precedent set after World war 2, know,

884
00:29:50,518 --> 00:29:52,428
the idea that just saying I followed orders

885
00:29:52,428 --> 00:29:54,418
and apply, You know? And this is... It's

886
00:29:54,418 --> 00:29:57,067
it's it's interesting that we've gone so rapidly

887
00:29:57,442 --> 00:29:58,955
away from things that used to be what

888
00:29:58,955 --> 00:30:01,278
we argued were, you know, foundational. Yeah. And

889
00:30:01,278 --> 00:30:02,791
at all... And it's interesting. All it really

890
00:30:02,791 --> 00:30:04,224
shows you and let know if you agree

891
00:30:04,224 --> 00:30:05,736
with this is that they never really believed

892
00:30:05,736 --> 00:30:07,249
it. Is all of a sudden, when it

893
00:30:07,249 --> 00:30:07,886
becomes difficult,

894
00:30:08,378 --> 00:30:09,965
what we saw was that just didn't matter

895
00:30:09,965 --> 00:30:11,632
because x y and z. Because it's a

896
00:30:11,632 --> 00:30:12,823
pandemic or because X y and all of

897
00:30:12,823 --> 00:30:14,910
a sudden it all went away. Constitutional rights

898
00:30:14,966 --> 00:30:16,647
because it's hard. Know, and I think that

899
00:30:16,647 --> 00:30:17,916
shows you that never really believe in the

900
00:30:17,916 --> 00:30:19,186
first place in the line way. Yeah. And

901
00:30:19,265 --> 00:30:20,852
I'll I'll I'll share 1 other thing that

902
00:30:20,931 --> 00:30:22,280
I thought about, you know, quite a bit

903
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,153
recently. And that is...

904
00:30:24,105 --> 00:30:24,160
You

905
00:30:25,552 --> 00:30:27,860
You know, think about your individuals who are

906
00:30:27,860 --> 00:30:30,247
smart individuals who are, you know, quote unquote

907
00:30:30,247 --> 00:30:32,411
good people because You know, I find my...

908
00:30:32,730 --> 00:30:34,481
I ask myself a lot. Like, where are

909
00:30:34,481 --> 00:30:36,392
all these, you know, good people? Right?

910
00:30:37,109 --> 00:30:37,586
And

911
00:30:37,984 --> 00:30:38,860
and a lot of them are friends of

912
00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:40,308
mine. And they're still friends of mine. And

913
00:30:40,467 --> 00:30:42,057
And I and I still respect to some

914
00:30:42,057 --> 00:30:44,204
degree. Mh. But I also have some hard

915
00:30:44,204 --> 00:30:46,112
questions for them. Like, like, hey, Where are

916
00:30:46,112 --> 00:30:47,226
you now in your country in needs you

917
00:30:47,226 --> 00:30:49,389
the most? Right? And because a lot of

918
00:30:49,389 --> 00:30:51,142
these guys, you know, they've got 20 25,

919
00:30:51,301 --> 00:30:53,235
30 years in the military. You know? So

920
00:30:54,726 --> 00:30:57,275
when you're particularly a young man. Mh.

921
00:30:57,690 --> 00:31:00,009
You grow up and you have these

922
00:31:00,890 --> 00:31:03,130
you know, these these illusions in your head

923
00:31:03,130 --> 00:31:04,809
as to what you're gonna accomplish in life.

924
00:31:05,130 --> 00:31:07,138
Right. And you're gonna be some great adventure

925
00:31:07,138 --> 00:31:09,448
and you're gonna accomplish these these these great

926
00:31:09,448 --> 00:31:09,687
feat.

927
00:31:10,325 --> 00:31:12,555
And so when you're when you're still also

928
00:31:12,555 --> 00:31:14,388
very young in your... In my case, you

929
00:31:14,388 --> 00:31:16,316
know what cadet west. Point or or a

930
00:31:16,316 --> 00:31:17,832
very junior officer in the army.

931
00:31:18,629 --> 00:31:21,181
Again, you know, you have these these images

932
00:31:21,181 --> 00:31:24,133
of your mind, Of of yourself accomplishing these

933
00:31:24,133 --> 00:31:24,771
great feat.

934
00:31:25,344 --> 00:31:28,535
Of courage in in some faraway land, you

935
00:31:28,535 --> 00:31:30,849
know, on a battlefield in in combat. Right?

936
00:31:33,098 --> 00:31:33,598
And

937
00:31:33,975 --> 00:31:36,048
maybe... And and and I would never ever

938
00:31:36,048 --> 00:31:39,396
diminish the incredible feat of courage that individuals

939
00:31:39,396 --> 00:31:41,230
have... I would never ever ever diminish that.

940
00:31:41,484 --> 00:31:43,239
Because some of them are truly truly remarkable.

941
00:31:44,993 --> 00:31:45,493
But

942
00:31:45,871 --> 00:31:48,126
what happens if you only ever

943
00:31:48,583 --> 00:31:51,215
prepare yourself mentally and psychologically perhaps even spiritually.

944
00:31:52,346 --> 00:31:54,338
For those physical acts of courage. And then

945
00:31:54,338 --> 00:31:56,250
what happens if the defining moment of your

946
00:31:56,250 --> 00:31:56,750
career

947
00:31:57,206 --> 00:31:58,344
happens to be

948
00:31:59,134 --> 00:32:01,525
a moral battle. And it doesn't happen on

949
00:32:01,525 --> 00:32:02,503
some faraway

950
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,351
land Where where bullets are flying, But it

951
00:32:05,351 --> 00:32:08,712
happens back here at home station within the

952
00:32:08,712 --> 00:32:11,181
borders of the United States, and it kinda

953
00:32:11,181 --> 00:32:14,049
comes down to a decision regarding medical freedom.

954
00:32:14,288 --> 00:32:16,773
Now no there are bigger ramifications But what

955
00:32:16,773 --> 00:32:19,426
if that ends up being the defining moment

956
00:32:19,883 --> 00:32:20,862
of your career

957
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:23,792
and you're unprepared for it because you never

958
00:32:23,792 --> 00:32:26,046
saw in your mind that that would be

959
00:32:26,358 --> 00:32:28,184
the moment in when you... In which you've

960
00:32:28,184 --> 00:32:30,089
really got to prove your metal. I I

961
00:32:30,089 --> 00:32:31,121
think we just saw it as I'm sure

962
00:32:31,121 --> 00:32:32,311
the point that you're making, You know, we

963
00:32:32,311 --> 00:32:34,057
just watched that happen. You know, where at

964
00:32:34,057 --> 00:32:34,454
least people...

965
00:32:35,264 --> 00:32:36,944
Or there weren't prepared for it or just

966
00:32:36,944 --> 00:32:39,105
didn't see that as being something that, you

967
00:32:39,105 --> 00:32:40,384
know, again, back to the point you made.

968
00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:42,065
I think a lot of the younger generation

969
00:32:42,065 --> 00:32:43,825
in the military are of the mind that

970
00:32:43,825 --> 00:32:45,755
you... You just do not disobey no matter

971
00:32:45,755 --> 00:32:48,068
what. Even if you are you, it's unlawful

972
00:32:48,068 --> 00:32:50,301
or maybe the idea being that if they

973
00:32:50,301 --> 00:32:51,976
order it or it is happening through the

974
00:32:51,976 --> 00:32:53,491
military. It's not unlawful. You know, sort of

975
00:32:53,491 --> 00:32:53,865
a

976
00:32:54,383 --> 00:32:55,740
Nixon, if the president says that it's not

977
00:32:55,740 --> 00:32:56,858
a legal kind of a game. And I

978
00:32:56,858 --> 00:32:58,795
think we've seen that a lot. That sentiment

979
00:32:58,853 --> 00:33:00,929
has grown through the Trump era, and the

980
00:33:00,929 --> 00:33:02,365
idea that might is right and if we

981
00:33:02,365 --> 00:33:03,654
do it, It's not... It's the right thing,

982
00:33:03,813 --> 00:33:05,882
because we're the good guys. I think that's

983
00:33:05,882 --> 00:33:07,234
a huge part of it. You know? But,

984
00:33:07,393 --> 00:33:09,063
Yeah. I think that's a really important point

985
00:33:09,063 --> 00:33:11,150
because it's would argue that even the feat

986
00:33:11,150 --> 00:33:12,904
of strength, feat of courage that we high

987
00:33:12,904 --> 00:33:15,536
that you're highlighting, we're also moral feat. For

988
00:33:15,536 --> 00:33:16,812
sure. You know And I think that's the

989
00:33:16,812 --> 00:33:18,008
real point. Is that some of the people

990
00:33:18,008 --> 00:33:20,094
are willing to do that. I argue somebody

991
00:33:20,094 --> 00:33:21,685
and maybe I'm wrong, but most put it

992
00:33:21,685 --> 00:33:23,594
most people that would be willing to put

993
00:33:23,594 --> 00:33:24,947
their life on the line in such an

994
00:33:24,947 --> 00:33:26,061
incredible feat of courage.

995
00:33:26,555 --> 00:33:28,394
Do so because they're guided by their moral

996
00:33:28,394 --> 00:33:29,914
compass. Sure. That's what I would argue. Would

997
00:33:29,914 --> 00:33:31,755
you're agree with that? Yeah. I think

998
00:33:32,474 --> 00:33:34,075
you can certainly find... I think a lot

999
00:33:34,075 --> 00:33:36,169
at physical courage also requires moral courage. As

1000
00:33:36,169 --> 00:33:39,817
well. Absolutely. Yeah. And and with certain individuals

1001
00:33:39,817 --> 00:33:42,673
in certain sets of conditions at certain times,

1002
00:33:43,149 --> 00:33:45,228
you will find as well physical courage and

1003
00:33:45,228 --> 00:33:46,975
moral courage occurring in tandem. Mh.

1004
00:33:48,246 --> 00:33:49,382
I also think

1005
00:33:49,756 --> 00:33:50,256
that

1006
00:33:50,868 --> 00:33:52,298
while the 2 are very related,

1007
00:33:53,504 --> 00:33:55,252
they're not exactly the same thing, and they're

1008
00:33:55,252 --> 00:33:56,468
not exactly

1009
00:33:56,842 --> 00:33:57,978
both always

1010
00:33:58,510 --> 00:34:00,755
there, you know, Right? In a in a

1011
00:34:00,755 --> 00:34:02,275
in a given, you know, situation if that

1012
00:34:02,275 --> 00:34:03,555
makes sense. Yeah. No. Absolutely.

1013
00:34:04,035 --> 00:34:05,875
Well, so we we... We've talked about the

1014
00:34:05,875 --> 00:34:08,275
moral the military accountability, which I think is

1015
00:34:08,275 --> 00:34:09,884
is... Again, I really hope people out there

1016
00:34:09,884 --> 00:34:11,079
will take the time to read this sign

1017
00:34:11,079 --> 00:34:12,991
of themselves. I think this is important. And

1018
00:34:12,991 --> 00:34:14,346
how that, you know, we'll... Talk in a

1019
00:34:14,346 --> 00:34:17,070
moment potentially about the, foreign an overlap foreign

1020
00:34:17,070 --> 00:34:18,346
wars. But let's go back for a second

1021
00:34:18,346 --> 00:34:20,499
to the mandate discussion. In Covid 19 and

1022
00:34:20,579 --> 00:34:22,173
Yeah. Because that's where this kinda stems back

1023
00:34:22,173 --> 00:34:23,688
from and where the where the point started

1024
00:34:23,688 --> 00:34:24,507
about where

1025
00:34:25,380 --> 00:34:27,140
where is this now? You know? So we've

1026
00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:28,840
we've seen this, and we've seen the continuing

1027
00:34:29,059 --> 00:34:31,059
conversation, and hopefully, people are still taking the

1028
00:34:31,059 --> 00:34:32,739
time to talk about it, highlight the importance

1029
00:34:32,739 --> 00:34:34,260
of it because it has not gone away?

1030
00:34:34,514 --> 00:34:36,498
But as we said, a lot of people

1031
00:34:36,498 --> 00:34:37,768
are under the impression that this is sort

1032
00:34:37,768 --> 00:34:39,117
of a put to bed story.

1033
00:34:39,911 --> 00:34:41,577
And maybe even you can argue the Covid

1034
00:34:41,577 --> 00:34:43,423
19 o overlap might be something that is

1035
00:34:43,423 --> 00:34:45,654
being going away, I still argue that might

1036
00:34:45,654 --> 00:34:46,530
be the case. Let me know what you

1037
00:34:46,530 --> 00:34:48,283
think. But the idea of the medical freedom

1038
00:34:48,283 --> 00:34:49,637
side of it. Whether it's the next thing

1039
00:34:49,637 --> 00:34:51,804
that comes around, the forced shots. And you

1040
00:34:51,804 --> 00:34:53,164
know, so where are we with that now

1041
00:34:53,164 --> 00:34:55,244
in regard to the military, civilians? And, you,

1042
00:34:55,405 --> 00:34:56,925
where do you think this is going and

1043
00:34:56,925 --> 00:34:57,965
maybe touch on the Covid dot op point

1044
00:34:58,045 --> 00:34:59,484
You were gonna discuss? Yeah. Yeah Yeah.

1045
00:35:00,844 --> 00:35:02,788
And You know? So so I firmly

1046
00:35:03,399 --> 00:35:04,509
agree with what you just said Where you

1047
00:35:04,509 --> 00:35:06,175
said, hey, this isn't over. Mh. It hasn't

1048
00:35:06,175 --> 00:35:07,524
been. Right. You know, put to bed, but

1049
00:35:07,524 --> 00:35:08,714
they do want you to believe that. You

1050
00:35:08,714 --> 00:35:08,952
know?

1051
00:35:09,682 --> 00:35:11,590
So specifically with the military,

1052
00:35:13,658 --> 00:35:16,122
the the shot mandate for the Covid giant

1053
00:35:16,122 --> 00:35:18,110
is no longer an effect? Now why is

1054
00:35:18,110 --> 00:35:20,856
it no longer an effect? It was discontinued

1055
00:35:21,472 --> 00:35:23,785
on 01/10/2023

1056
00:35:23,785 --> 00:35:27,055
as part of the 20 23 Nda, the

1057
00:35:27,135 --> 00:35:28,331
National Defense Authorization Act.

1058
00:35:29,381 --> 00:35:29,699
Now,

1059
00:35:30,574 --> 00:35:31,131
my opinion,

1060
00:35:31,847 --> 00:35:34,234
I think that was a strategic maneuver that

1061
00:35:34,234 --> 00:35:36,398
they did as maybe a type of pressure

1062
00:35:36,398 --> 00:35:37,751
valve, there was a lot of pressure that

1063
00:35:37,751 --> 00:35:40,217
was mounting against this. Mh. So, okay, if

1064
00:35:40,217 --> 00:35:42,127
we release a little bit of steam,

1065
00:35:43,002 --> 00:35:44,288
some of this will be the buildup up

1066
00:35:44,288 --> 00:35:46,034
of pressure will go away. That's such an

1067
00:35:46,034 --> 00:35:47,146
important thing to make sure we just pause

1068
00:35:47,146 --> 00:35:49,209
it. Like, that is so common in my

1069
00:35:49,209 --> 00:35:51,090
opinion for all of these agendas where... Sure

1070
00:35:51,209 --> 00:35:52,404
they'll throw a little bit of a little

1071
00:35:52,404 --> 00:35:54,156
loan. You know, And people go. It's over.

1072
00:35:54,315 --> 00:35:55,828
You know, please keep keep going. I think

1073
00:35:55,828 --> 00:35:58,138
that's so important. Or yeah. So so it's...

1074
00:35:58,456 --> 00:35:59,492
You're right. I think that's done a lot.

1075
00:35:59,731 --> 00:36:01,021
But... In my opinion, you know of course,

1076
00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:02,216
you know, I could be wrong, but I'm

1077
00:36:02,216 --> 00:36:04,049
just looking at this situation, and, you know,

1078
00:36:04,209 --> 00:36:05,643
we gotta understand it's so much bigger than

1079
00:36:05,643 --> 00:36:06,919
just Covid. And I think we'll get to

1080
00:36:06,919 --> 00:36:07,237
that. But,

1081
00:36:08,689 --> 00:36:09,807
But but right now,

1082
00:36:10,447 --> 00:36:12,524
there is no mandate that requires you if

1083
00:36:12,524 --> 00:36:13,882
you're in the military to take the Covid

1084
00:36:13,882 --> 00:36:15,741
shot because technically,

1085
00:36:16,934 --> 00:36:18,372
it was... And and this is where you

1086
00:36:18,372 --> 00:36:19,730
gotta be careful about the words that we

1087
00:36:19,730 --> 00:36:21,967
used, You know, some people use Rep or

1088
00:36:21,967 --> 00:36:23,725
it was res. Mh. Well,

1089
00:36:24,697 --> 00:36:27,504
Here's what it was not. It was not

1090
00:36:28,198 --> 00:36:30,266
reversed, and that's my word, but here's what

1091
00:36:30,266 --> 00:36:31,062
did not happen.

1092
00:36:32,592 --> 00:36:34,189
They did not come out and say,

1093
00:36:35,387 --> 00:36:37,882
we are stopping this because we got this

1094
00:36:38,101 --> 00:36:40,097
wrong. Right. We've re looked at this and

1095
00:36:40,097 --> 00:36:40,836
we realized,

1096
00:36:41,468 --> 00:36:43,219
we jumped the gun. We did this.

1097
00:36:43,856 --> 00:36:44,970
We, you know, hey,

1098
00:36:46,085 --> 00:36:48,313
apologies. No. None of that happened Right. He

1099
00:36:48,313 --> 00:36:49,507
was done under the guy. First of all,

1100
00:36:49,587 --> 00:36:50,994
it was done because of of some pressure

1101
00:36:51,114 --> 00:36:52,466
from Congress. But, again, I don't even know

1102
00:36:52,466 --> 00:36:54,057
that a lot of that was was authentic.

1103
00:36:54,376 --> 00:36:56,603
But it was very much done under the

1104
00:36:56,603 --> 00:36:57,501
guise of

1105
00:36:57,955 --> 00:36:59,840
this was necessary while it was in effect

1106
00:37:00,039 --> 00:37:02,516
it's no longer necessary, and so therefore we

1107
00:37:02,516 --> 00:37:03,795
can stop the mandate.

1108
00:37:05,313 --> 00:37:07,470
And then I think there were also some...

1109
00:37:08,443 --> 00:37:12,053
Some token signs of reconciliation though they were

1110
00:37:12,112 --> 00:37:12,829
extremely feeble.

1111
00:37:13,707 --> 00:37:15,222
But they did, for example in the army,

1112
00:37:15,462 --> 00:37:17,456
they sent out a letter. I got 1.

1113
00:37:18,029 --> 00:37:20,762
They sent out this very weekly worded letter

1114
00:37:20,820 --> 00:37:21,378
that said,

1115
00:37:21,936 --> 00:37:24,009
hey, you know, if you left or if

1116
00:37:24,009 --> 00:37:24,668
you were

1117
00:37:25,285 --> 00:37:26,662
separated from the army

1118
00:37:27,293 --> 00:37:28,726
because the Covid shot mandate,

1119
00:37:29,443 --> 00:37:30,876
come on back. Or if you wanna correct

1120
00:37:30,876 --> 00:37:32,650
some of your records, like, let's say that

1121
00:37:32,787 --> 00:37:34,380
you were kicked out and therefore you left

1122
00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:37,663
with a discharge. That was not honorable. Mh.

1123
00:37:37,902 --> 00:37:39,896
Then, hey, come on back and oh by

1124
00:37:39,896 --> 00:37:41,731
the way, you know, you can you can

1125
00:37:41,731 --> 00:37:44,602
request to have your records changed. Interesting. A

1126
00:37:44,602 --> 00:37:45,501
lot of people

1127
00:37:45,812 --> 00:37:48,192
took that letter and just wired it up

1128
00:37:48,192 --> 00:37:49,937
and put it right where it belongs, which

1129
00:37:49,937 --> 00:37:50,889
is in the trash can.

1130
00:37:51,841 --> 00:37:52,341
Because

1131
00:37:53,604 --> 00:37:54,639
first of, I just I don't think it

1132
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,025
was sincere. Right. And my understanding is that

1133
00:37:57,025 --> 00:37:58,457
less than 1 percent of people who received

1134
00:37:58,457 --> 00:38:00,223
that letter of actually taken out. And it's

1135
00:38:00,223 --> 00:38:02,217
just specifically from the army, but other branches

1136
00:38:02,217 --> 00:38:04,052
of service have done something very similar, but

1137
00:38:04,052 --> 00:38:05,887
just nobody's taking them month on it. Surprising

1138
00:38:05,887 --> 00:38:07,561
actually. And and even though I I think

1139
00:38:07,561 --> 00:38:09,077
most them agree with you, I would Imagine

1140
00:38:09,077 --> 00:38:10,446
more of them would still take it up

1141
00:38:10,446 --> 00:38:12,060
because of any number of reasons behind.

1142
00:38:12,594 --> 00:38:14,423
Should right. Right. Right. And and, you know,

1143
00:38:14,583 --> 00:38:16,276
but here's what's crazy is

1144
00:38:16,810 --> 00:38:18,982
take even just something as simple as, hey,

1145
00:38:19,222 --> 00:38:22,359
if you request to have your discharge status

1146
00:38:22,738 --> 00:38:25,376
updated. Mh. We will at least consider the

1147
00:38:25,376 --> 00:38:27,460
request, which means Let's say, when you were

1148
00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:29,230
kicked out, you didn't leave with an honorable

1149
00:38:29,285 --> 00:38:31,665
discharge, which can affect you when you go

1150
00:38:31,665 --> 00:38:33,252
to try, you know, follow unemployment. You're go

1151
00:38:33,252 --> 00:38:34,442
you go seek follow unemployment. Right?

1152
00:38:35,333 --> 00:38:37,804
Because if there's a characterization on your discharge

1153
00:38:37,804 --> 00:38:39,478
paperwork that says misconduct,

1154
00:38:40,036 --> 00:38:42,188
There's no way for a potential future employer

1155
00:38:42,188 --> 00:38:42,746
to know,

1156
00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:46,355
well, what type of misconduct? Right. That it

1157
00:38:46,355 --> 00:38:48,592
it... He's not necessarily gonna know. Oh, you

1158
00:38:48,592 --> 00:38:50,843
just refused to shot. You know So anyway,

1159
00:38:50,923 --> 00:38:52,619
there were a lot of people that were

1160
00:38:54,592 --> 00:38:57,066
that were damaged because of this characterization.

1161
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,273
Of their their discharge status from the military.

1162
00:39:00,432 --> 00:39:00,751
Mh.

1163
00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:03,225
But my thing is is, like, hey Army.

1164
00:39:03,465 --> 00:39:06,114
If you were serious about fixing that, why

1165
00:39:06,114 --> 00:39:07,871
would people that you discharged,

1166
00:39:08,351 --> 00:39:11,148
why would they need to request an upgrade

1167
00:39:11,148 --> 00:39:12,985
to their characterization. Just just do a full

1168
00:39:12,985 --> 00:39:14,597
audit and just and just change it because

1169
00:39:14,597 --> 00:39:16,193
of what should mission fault, I think as...

1170
00:39:16,753 --> 00:39:17,652
Exactly. So

1171
00:39:19,307 --> 00:39:20,984
you know, but anyway, so, you know, I

1172
00:39:21,063 --> 00:39:22,740
I think this whole Covid op is is

1173
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:25,069
much... Bigger than just it's much bigger than

1174
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:27,304
just shots. Mh. And I think what we

1175
00:39:27,304 --> 00:39:28,442
have seen is

1176
00:39:29,618 --> 00:39:31,945
2 things that that you and I and

1177
00:39:31,945 --> 00:39:33,458
other people probably kind of already knew, but

1178
00:39:33,458 --> 00:39:34,117
it's really

1179
00:39:34,572 --> 00:39:36,005
shown this to a to a greater level.

1180
00:39:36,324 --> 00:39:38,234
But other people who are not necessarily aware

1181
00:39:38,234 --> 00:39:40,641
of this are are are getting a mattress

1182
00:39:40,641 --> 00:39:42,418
class in in kind of

1183
00:39:43,194 --> 00:39:45,189
how the world really works. So... But I

1184
00:39:45,189 --> 00:39:46,407
would say that 2 things are

1185
00:39:47,516 --> 00:39:49,585
Many people are realizing that the world works

1186
00:39:49,585 --> 00:39:51,257
a lot differently than they thought and that

1187
00:39:51,257 --> 00:39:54,201
they were taught. Right? And the the second

1188
00:39:54,201 --> 00:39:56,293
thing that I would add closely related is

1189
00:39:56,603 --> 00:39:58,848
our government operates much differently

1190
00:39:59,221 --> 00:40:02,077
than the way you were taught. Right. That

1191
00:40:02,077 --> 00:40:03,426
that it operates when you were kinda coming

1192
00:40:03,426 --> 00:40:05,108
up through middle school in high school. Yeah.

1193
00:40:05,347 --> 00:40:07,733
Most definitely. And, I... That's perfect. As you

1194
00:40:07,733 --> 00:40:09,085
get into another... 1 of our topics. But

1195
00:40:09,165 --> 00:40:10,438
I wanted to point out around, I have

1196
00:40:10,438 --> 00:40:11,392
1 more question about the...

1197
00:40:12,125 --> 00:40:15,264
You know, the way the military handled that

1198
00:40:15,484 --> 00:40:16,925
Because I... 1 of the points that we

1199
00:40:16,925 --> 00:40:18,684
highlighted and I think we've discussed as well

1200
00:40:18,684 --> 00:40:20,779
is that it really came down to the

1201
00:40:20,779 --> 00:40:23,097
argument, the lie that it had been approved.

1202
00:40:23,336 --> 00:40:24,535
Or at least the 1 that they were

1203
00:40:24,535 --> 00:40:26,773
forcing. Yeah. And it wasn't. Right? So that

1204
00:40:26,773 --> 00:40:28,131
came to be very clear that the 1

1205
00:40:28,131 --> 00:40:29,625
that they were giving was still the

1206
00:40:30,299 --> 00:40:32,601
your emergency your author as a authorized version,

1207
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:33,950
and, you know, not to get too deep

1208
00:40:33,950 --> 00:40:35,537
in that. If... We've done plenty of shows

1209
00:40:35,537 --> 00:40:37,777
on to look further, but it was proven

1210
00:40:37,777 --> 00:40:39,530
that this was the 1 that was community

1211
00:40:39,530 --> 00:40:41,045
was and never even left the shelf. Right?

1212
00:40:41,284 --> 00:40:42,878
At the time anyway. Mh. And so,

1213
00:40:43,993 --> 00:40:46,404
interestingly, I think 1 if they were to

1214
00:40:46,404 --> 00:40:47,684
admit that that was at fault. There's a

1215
00:40:47,684 --> 00:40:48,184
huge

1216
00:40:48,484 --> 00:40:50,565
legal liability there. I think that's probably why

1217
00:40:50,565 --> 00:40:52,884
they would don't wanna say that. But so

1218
00:40:52,884 --> 00:40:54,505
it's interesting that they wouldn't

1219
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:56,178
Like, so let me ask this in a

1220
00:40:56,178 --> 00:40:58,415
question that. Why would it not be presented

1221
00:40:58,415 --> 00:40:58,915
as

1222
00:40:59,613 --> 00:41:01,371
the legal reality when they go to these

1223
00:41:01,371 --> 00:41:03,220
people letters even? Like, while, hey can't come

1224
00:41:03,220 --> 00:41:04,574
on back, we'll we'll we'll give you your

1225
00:41:04,574 --> 00:41:06,484
you'll give you an honorable discharge. And even

1226
00:41:06,484 --> 00:41:09,111
though we we can prove that they... Were

1227
00:41:09,111 --> 00:41:10,226
essentially legally forced.

1228
00:41:10,718 --> 00:41:12,145
To bring some people back. I mean, doesn't

1229
00:41:12,145 --> 00:41:13,730
that... I mean, couldn't you argue a lot

1230
00:41:13,730 --> 00:41:15,554
the letter itself is just a blatant lie.

1231
00:41:15,712 --> 00:41:16,901
I mean, isn't that something in a court

1232
00:41:16,901 --> 00:41:17,956
of law, you could argue

1233
00:41:18,504 --> 00:41:20,257
Well, could it be argued court. It's an

1234
00:41:20,257 --> 00:41:21,772
interesting question. I would like to be able

1235
00:41:21,772 --> 00:41:24,323
to say that... So we've gotten minimal help

1236
00:41:24,323 --> 00:41:26,556
from Congress? Mh. And we've gotten minimal help

1237
00:41:26,556 --> 00:41:28,170
from them. Courts. Now I mean in theory

1238
00:41:28,170 --> 00:41:29,449
that could change. I mean, that's 1 of

1239
00:41:29,449 --> 00:41:31,309
the reasons why we're appealing to the public

1240
00:41:31,690 --> 00:41:33,369
is to place pressure on some of these

1241
00:41:33,369 --> 00:41:34,329
governmental institutions.

1242
00:41:35,289 --> 00:41:37,920
Courts But but you are right that the

1243
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:38,420
the

1244
00:41:38,791 --> 00:41:41,643
the implementation of the mandate clearly unlawful. Mh.

1245
00:41:42,039 --> 00:41:44,590
Because... The entire mandate in the way in

1246
00:41:44,590 --> 00:41:46,967
which the sec, the secretary defense originally wrote

1247
00:41:46,967 --> 00:41:48,101
the original mandate

1248
00:41:48,552 --> 00:41:50,708
when it went into effect, It was predicated

1249
00:41:50,708 --> 00:41:52,455
upon the existence of a fully Fda approved

1250
00:41:52,455 --> 00:41:55,235
product. Right? Which we know did not exist.

1251
00:41:55,473 --> 00:41:57,776
They approved a a ghost product. What I

1252
00:41:57,776 --> 00:42:00,016
call it. Approved a ghost product. Well to

1253
00:42:00,016 --> 00:42:01,686
clarify, like... I understand what you're saying as

1254
00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:03,755
well, they did actually approve, but it was

1255
00:42:03,755 --> 00:42:05,982
never made never actually. Right. That's right Yeah.

1256
00:42:06,141 --> 00:42:08,376
That's right. So they they approved a product

1257
00:42:08,376 --> 00:42:10,673
that was unavailable. And it was unavailable. That's

1258
00:42:10,673 --> 00:42:12,258
why I call it. You know, goes. I

1259
00:42:12,258 --> 00:42:12,416
here.

1260
00:42:13,859 --> 00:42:15,872
And then they allowed for this mis

1261
00:42:16,328 --> 00:42:18,958
misinformation of an una approved product, which only

1262
00:42:18,958 --> 00:42:21,586
existed under Eu. The emergency use authorization, which

1263
00:42:21,586 --> 00:42:24,067
is like a Pfizer Bio tech product, they

1264
00:42:24,067 --> 00:42:27,103
allowed for the mis misinformation of this product

1265
00:42:27,474 --> 00:42:29,851
as either a fully fda approved product or

1266
00:42:29,851 --> 00:42:32,274
at least, a product that could be used

1267
00:42:32,491 --> 00:42:34,801
interchangeably Right. With a fully Fda approved product,

1268
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:36,952
which actually you can't do. You right. You

1269
00:42:36,952 --> 00:42:40,151
can't have interchange between an approved product, and

1270
00:42:40,151 --> 00:42:42,057
una process. Especially 1 that within that very

1271
00:42:42,057 --> 00:42:44,598
thing said legally distinct. Legally distinct. Except that

1272
00:42:44,598 --> 00:42:46,266
the same in in the memo by Terry

1273
00:42:46,425 --> 00:42:48,489
Adam, Doctor Terry Adam, you know, works for

1274
00:42:48,489 --> 00:42:48,648
for

1275
00:42:49,299 --> 00:42:50,578
for the government. You know, she put out

1276
00:42:50,578 --> 00:42:54,493
a memo on 09/14/2021.

1277
00:42:54,652 --> 00:42:56,490
So about 3 weeks after the mandate,

1278
00:42:57,064 --> 00:42:59,453
And when she said, these 2 products can

1279
00:42:59,453 --> 00:43:01,842
be used interchangeably, but they are legally distinct.

1280
00:43:02,001 --> 00:43:03,435
It's just like, okay. So are they the

1281
00:43:03,435 --> 00:43:04,471
same or are they not the same? Right.

1282
00:43:04,550 --> 00:43:05,744
Because I... You're you're trying to make it...

1283
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,199
Sound like it's both. Do you think that

1284
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,360
Lloyd or whoever ultimately responsible for the choice?

1285
00:43:09,519 --> 00:43:11,199
Do you think that they knew that your

1286
00:43:11,199 --> 00:43:13,679
opinion? My opinion. Mh. Brad miller opinion. Yes.

1287
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,267
It interesting they knew that. So I think

1288
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:19,592
I think at the level of government, like,

1289
00:43:19,672 --> 00:43:21,367
you know, top levels of government

1290
00:43:21,759 --> 00:43:23,672
I think they were knowing complacent. Now, of

1291
00:43:23,672 --> 00:43:24,868
course I I I'm not gonna be wrong.

1292
00:43:25,027 --> 00:43:27,260
We're we're we're here. Mh But I do

1293
00:43:27,260 --> 00:43:29,254
think that there are individuals who were who

1294
00:43:29,254 --> 00:43:31,820
were knowing complacent. Yeah. And then I think

1295
00:43:31,820 --> 00:43:33,414
if you kinda come down a little bit,

1296
00:43:35,805 --> 00:43:37,160
I think that there are...

1297
00:43:37,717 --> 00:43:37,877
Okay.

1298
00:43:38,849 --> 00:43:42,539
I think the secretary difference was smart enough

1299
00:43:42,597 --> 00:43:44,055
that when he put out his

1300
00:43:44,592 --> 00:43:46,825
initial memo. If you actually look at the

1301
00:43:46,825 --> 00:43:48,340
black and white words on the page,

1302
00:43:50,193 --> 00:43:52,510
it is far less problematic than actually what

1303
00:43:52,510 --> 00:43:54,028
happened, because he says I don't really the

1304
00:43:54,028 --> 00:43:56,426
exact wording, but he says, in the memo,

1305
00:43:59,226 --> 00:44:01,368
fully Fda approved products, you know, will be

1306
00:44:01,368 --> 00:44:03,112
used. Mh. So when you look at that,

1307
00:44:03,271 --> 00:44:05,253
it's like, okay. We may not like this,

1308
00:44:05,983 --> 00:44:09,163
But legally, this is far less problematic. Right.

1309
00:44:09,322 --> 00:44:10,298
Than the actual

1310
00:44:10,911 --> 00:44:13,217
implementation, which, of course was only possible.

1311
00:44:13,788 --> 00:44:15,695
If you're using Ua products because there were

1312
00:44:15,695 --> 00:44:17,863
no. Right. There were no, you know, fully...

1313
00:44:18,316 --> 00:44:19,984
Plausible to my ability. He could articulate. I

1314
00:44:19,984 --> 00:44:21,414
thought that was of course. Of course. Of

1315
00:44:21,414 --> 00:44:23,581
course. So So do I believe that there

1316
00:44:23,581 --> 00:44:26,953
was will collusion between the Fda and Dod

1317
00:44:27,171 --> 00:44:27,671
to,

1318
00:44:28,847 --> 00:44:31,016
you know, this product. Tier as this product

1319
00:44:31,016 --> 00:44:32,531
tier or at least something that could be

1320
00:44:32,531 --> 00:44:34,525
interchangeably used in place of it? Mh. Yes.

1321
00:44:34,765 --> 00:44:36,360
I think that was will for collusion. To

1322
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:36,679
what end.

1323
00:44:37,556 --> 00:44:39,332
Oh man. Great question. So

1324
00:44:40,362 --> 00:44:41,876
this is where I think it's much bigger

1325
00:44:41,876 --> 00:44:43,868
than just the military it's much bigger than

1326
00:44:43,868 --> 00:44:45,302
just the United States. I mean, I think

1327
00:44:45,302 --> 00:44:45,939
to some degree,

1328
00:44:47,309 --> 00:44:48,186
there is a

1329
00:44:48,824 --> 00:44:50,260
there's a coup going on, and I think

1330
00:44:50,260 --> 00:44:52,254
the coup is worldwide. And I think and

1331
00:44:52,254 --> 00:44:53,530
this is a... I think this is a

1332
00:44:53,530 --> 00:44:55,046
point that we've got to learn. Mh.

1333
00:44:57,372 --> 00:44:59,754
Wars don't always look the way that we

1334
00:44:59,754 --> 00:45:01,262
kinda have come to think that wars look.

1335
00:45:01,579 --> 00:45:02,793
Right. And a coup

1336
00:45:03,326 --> 00:45:05,627
doesn't always necessarily consist.

1337
00:45:06,199 --> 00:45:08,756
Of a singular 1 and done event. Right.

1338
00:45:08,916 --> 00:45:10,434
And I think that what's happening in our

1339
00:45:10,434 --> 00:45:11,553
country, but you could also,

1340
00:45:12,432 --> 00:45:14,190
extrapolate, you know, across the world,

1341
00:45:14,842 --> 00:45:15,954
but let's just talk about Just the United

1342
00:45:16,114 --> 00:45:16,670
States for a moment.

1343
00:45:17,306 --> 00:45:19,848
I think we're in the midst of kind

1344
00:45:19,848 --> 00:45:20,587
of an

1345
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:21,755
ongoing coup.

1346
00:45:22,489 --> 00:45:24,089
And that ongoing coup, which I think has

1347
00:45:24,089 --> 00:45:25,849
been, you know, decades in the making, maybe

1348
00:45:25,849 --> 00:45:26,089
longer,

1349
00:45:26,650 --> 00:45:27,630
is pun

1350
00:45:28,730 --> 00:45:29,210
by, like,

1351
00:45:29,862 --> 00:45:33,197
certain discrete events, but even... But none of

1352
00:45:33,197 --> 00:45:34,888
those, like, singular events

1353
00:45:35,738 --> 00:45:37,539
is a is a full 1 and done

1354
00:45:37,659 --> 00:45:39,334
coup like you think of in which, like

1355
00:45:39,733 --> 00:45:41,408
like, there's a military military push in some

1356
00:45:41,408 --> 00:45:44,359
country, and, you know, yesterday, you had this

1357
00:45:44,359 --> 00:45:46,454
guy that was in charge of of whatever

1358
00:45:46,512 --> 00:45:46,672
country.

1359
00:45:47,723 --> 00:45:49,707
But then tomorrow, you're gonna have, like, a,

1360
00:45:49,945 --> 00:45:51,850
like, a military commander in fatigue that is

1361
00:45:51,850 --> 00:45:53,914
now the quote unquote ruler of that country.

1362
00:45:54,073 --> 00:45:55,502
Right. And now we have a new military

1363
00:45:55,581 --> 00:45:55,898
Jun.

1364
00:45:56,628 --> 00:45:58,059
That's what people think of when they hear

1365
00:45:58,059 --> 00:45:58,298
coup,

1366
00:45:59,570 --> 00:46:00,945
but I think we're we're

1367
00:46:01,478 --> 00:46:03,466
we're in the midst of something that is

1368
00:46:03,466 --> 00:46:04,340
far more subtle.

1369
00:46:04,913 --> 00:46:06,823
And it's far more incremental,

1370
00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:09,211
But it doesn't mean that there aren't kind

1371
00:46:09,211 --> 00:46:12,554
of these singular events that kind of move

1372
00:46:12,554 --> 00:46:14,559
us into a deeper phase of the too.

1373
00:46:14,877 --> 00:46:16,388
I think Covid was 1 of those. I

1374
00:46:16,388 --> 00:46:16,547
think,

1375
00:46:17,581 --> 00:46:18,854
I, I think 09:11 was 1 of those.

1376
00:46:19,013 --> 00:46:20,206
Mh You know? And I don't think you

1377
00:46:20,206 --> 00:46:22,604
get to a Covid. Too without a 9

1378
00:46:22,604 --> 00:46:24,903
1100 percent. 2 decades prior. Hundred percent. I

1379
00:46:24,903 --> 00:46:26,568
mean, I think that's that's such an important

1380
00:46:26,568 --> 00:46:28,417
point that people should just write down and

1381
00:46:28,948 --> 00:46:31,597
that's right there or the connection between those

1382
00:46:31,597 --> 00:46:33,434
events. Even if maybe you could argue that

1383
00:46:33,594 --> 00:46:36,330
Covid whatever you want... Know, the event

1384
00:46:36,643 --> 00:46:39,028
was seen at the time of 09:11 or

1385
00:46:39,028 --> 00:46:40,937
planned. Yeah. You can clearly see that these

1386
00:46:40,937 --> 00:46:42,686
things are inter... You know, it's if the

1387
00:46:42,686 --> 00:46:44,221
the medical biometric

1388
00:46:45,329 --> 00:46:48,684
techno, trans kind of direction from Yeah. The

1389
00:46:48,684 --> 00:46:50,122
first step... Like, each to your point, you

1390
00:46:50,122 --> 00:46:51,880
can't have what they did with Covid 19.

1391
00:46:52,293 --> 00:46:54,444
Without first establishing the security state which put

1392
00:46:54,444 --> 00:46:56,277
us in the position for us to be.

1393
00:46:56,436 --> 00:46:58,030
And, you know, it's very important to think

1394
00:46:58,030 --> 00:46:59,782
about. Now I go ahead Can Just make

1395
00:46:59,782 --> 00:47:00,738
a point on that real? So,

1396
00:47:02,030 --> 00:47:03,549
Let me personalize it for just a moment.

1397
00:47:04,109 --> 00:47:04,929
Because my

1398
00:47:05,469 --> 00:47:08,670
my military career is basically book ended Mh

1399
00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:11,723
by by 09:11 on the front end, and

1400
00:47:11,723 --> 00:47:13,393
then kinda, you know, this whole Covid up

1401
00:47:13,393 --> 00:47:13,950
on the back end.

1402
00:47:14,746 --> 00:47:17,132
So where was I on 09:11? So I

1403
00:47:17,132 --> 00:47:18,246
was a cadet at West point?

1404
00:47:18,897 --> 00:47:21,444
Thank you. West point, New York is about

1405
00:47:21,444 --> 00:47:23,753
50 miles north of New York City. I

1406
00:47:23,753 --> 00:47:26,140
think it's about 60 miles north exactly of,

1407
00:47:26,220 --> 00:47:27,573
like, where where ground 0 is.

1408
00:47:28,463 --> 00:47:30,606
So I mean, I was a cadet in

1409
00:47:30,606 --> 00:47:32,750
my third year at West point when 09:11

1410
00:47:32,750 --> 00:47:34,259
occurred. And and I will also tell you,

1411
00:47:34,338 --> 00:47:35,449
and I was just Hood wink as anybody

1412
00:47:35,449 --> 00:47:36,958
else. I mean, I I bought into the

1413
00:47:36,958 --> 00:47:38,722
whole narrative. Because that's the world that I

1414
00:47:38,722 --> 00:47:40,871
was operating under. Right? So then, you know,

1415
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:43,417
I I would have graduated in 2003.

1416
00:47:43,656 --> 00:47:44,531
I go into the army.

1417
00:47:45,264 --> 00:47:47,737
I deployed to Afghanistan, and I truly believe

1418
00:47:47,737 --> 00:47:49,753
on the day that I deployed Afghanistan. My

1419
00:47:49,812 --> 00:47:51,648
first deployment to Afghanistan was in January of

1420
00:47:51,648 --> 00:47:53,900
06I

1421
00:47:53,900 --> 00:47:56,719
went to Afghanistan in January o 6 believing

1422
00:47:57,180 --> 00:47:58,940
that I was in Afghanistan, you know, fighting

1423
00:47:58,940 --> 00:48:01,430
for Forgotten country. Right? I spent a year

1424
00:48:01,430 --> 00:48:03,023
there, and I believe that every single day

1425
00:48:03,023 --> 00:48:04,457
that I was there. I came home in

1426
00:48:04,537 --> 00:48:07,326
January of 2007, like, still believing that. It

1427
00:48:07,326 --> 00:48:09,238
wasn't until a little bit later. I actually

1428
00:48:09,238 --> 00:48:10,927
later that year. Had nothing to do with

1429
00:48:10,927 --> 00:48:12,922
my deployment really. Right. And which

1430
00:48:13,481 --> 00:48:15,157
I just kinda started... I just came across

1431
00:48:15,157 --> 00:48:18,005
some information. You start digging, and then... But

1432
00:48:18,204 --> 00:48:20,684
just kinda never stop research was and and

1433
00:48:20,684 --> 00:48:22,605
and, you know, fast forward and, you know,

1434
00:48:22,764 --> 00:48:24,684
now here I am with you. But the

1435
00:48:24,684 --> 00:48:25,884
reason I wanted to bring that up though

1436
00:48:25,884 --> 00:48:26,704
was because

1437
00:48:28,456 --> 00:48:31,249
I I kinda started researching something like 09:11

1438
00:48:31,249 --> 00:48:33,882
in in in late summer to fall at

1439
00:48:33,882 --> 00:48:34,680
2007.

1440
00:48:35,490 --> 00:48:37,155
And I'm a captain in the army this

1441
00:48:37,155 --> 00:48:39,375
time who's already done a deployment to Afghanistan.

1442
00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:41,198
Mh. So yeah I I I've got kind

1443
00:48:41,198 --> 00:48:41,594
of this

1444
00:48:42,799 --> 00:48:44,474
you know, this... So I'm working through this,

1445
00:48:44,634 --> 00:48:45,989
You know, in my mind at the time.

1446
00:48:46,787 --> 00:48:47,106
And

1447
00:48:48,143 --> 00:48:50,536
and and about a year or 2 later,

1448
00:48:50,775 --> 00:48:52,211
I almost got to the point where I

1449
00:48:52,211 --> 00:48:53,577
was, like, I've gotta get out of the

1450
00:48:53,577 --> 00:48:56,037
army. Mh. And my my initial commitment from

1451
00:48:56,116 --> 00:48:57,092
West point was up

1452
00:48:57,465 --> 00:48:57,782
and

1453
00:48:59,211 --> 00:49:01,136
and and I was... Strongly thinking about getting

1454
00:49:01,136 --> 00:49:02,253
out of the army. And I ended up

1455
00:49:02,253 --> 00:49:03,529
I'm not doing it, and I didn't do

1456
00:49:03,529 --> 00:49:05,066
it because I thought

1457
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,032
the military still needs good people in. Right?

1458
00:49:09,351 --> 00:49:11,675
Okay? Well, fast forward a decade a little

1459
00:49:11,675 --> 00:49:13,425
bit more than a decade later, And I

1460
00:49:13,425 --> 00:49:14,698
will tell you to some degree,

1461
00:49:15,334 --> 00:49:16,686
part of the reason that I got out

1462
00:49:16,686 --> 00:49:17,584
when I did

1463
00:49:18,039 --> 00:49:20,525
over the whole... Well Covid op is because

1464
00:49:20,605 --> 00:49:22,680
I did not get out roughly a decade

1465
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,313
earlier with 09:11. Because in that decade,

1466
00:49:25,793 --> 00:49:26,965
you know, a decade more of life at

1467
00:49:27,163 --> 00:49:28,987
experience, a decade more of me doing research,

1468
00:49:29,383 --> 00:49:32,159
but also, what happened with Covid was so

1469
00:49:32,159 --> 00:49:33,135
much larger

1470
00:49:33,824 --> 00:49:34,879
than 09:11

1471
00:49:35,030 --> 00:49:36,569
that my my previous

1472
00:49:36,869 --> 00:49:37,510
idea of,

1473
00:49:38,150 --> 00:49:39,670
oh, you still need good people in the

1474
00:49:39,670 --> 00:49:40,549
military. I just thought...

1475
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:42,630
Man, I think that was a little bit

1476
00:49:42,630 --> 00:49:44,483
naive. And I'm not saying that there... Aren't

1477
00:49:44,483 --> 00:49:45,838
some good people in the military. I mentioned

1478
00:49:45,918 --> 00:49:47,830
Rob Greene. Mh. Rob Greene is still in,

1479
00:49:48,308 --> 00:49:50,777
wants to be in, I applaud him and

1480
00:49:50,777 --> 00:49:52,464
he and I or you know, I'm I'm

1481
00:49:52,464 --> 00:49:53,735
working with some people that are still in.

1482
00:49:53,974 --> 00:49:56,677
But for me, what I chose to do,

1483
00:49:57,074 --> 00:49:59,164
there was very much this idea of,

1484
00:49:59,554 --> 00:50:00,986
ma'am, maybe Maybe I should've gotten out a

1485
00:50:00,986 --> 00:50:02,896
decade ago. I didn't do it. Like, I'm

1486
00:50:02,975 --> 00:50:04,805
I'm I'm I'm not gonna I'm not gonna

1487
00:50:04,805 --> 00:50:07,128
pretend that this is okay. Right. You know?

1488
00:50:07,685 --> 00:50:09,994
It's it's interesting though that really... It just

1489
00:50:09,994 --> 00:50:11,666
takes a desire to look at this information.

1490
00:50:11,825 --> 00:50:13,258
It's really... You know, it's, like, the reason

1491
00:50:13,338 --> 00:50:14,771
I said, this simple as that. It's like,

1492
00:50:15,584 --> 00:50:17,662
people act like, this is some... Yes. It's

1493
00:50:17,662 --> 00:50:19,580
a difficult journey to go through this. It's

1494
00:50:19,580 --> 00:50:21,418
uncomfortable. You know, But the information is out

1495
00:50:21,418 --> 00:50:23,416
there. Yeah. It's easily verifiable in a lot

1496
00:50:23,416 --> 00:50:25,429
of ways. And so it's just about choosing

1497
00:50:25,429 --> 00:50:27,027
to acknowledge that and go through this. And,

1498
00:50:27,107 --> 00:50:28,626
you know, it's it's a... As you know,

1499
00:50:28,786 --> 00:50:30,703
it's a difficult path. You know, especially because

1500
00:50:30,703 --> 00:50:32,461
there's so many people that are willing to

1501
00:50:32,461 --> 00:50:34,160
attack you to protect their

1502
00:50:35,508 --> 00:50:37,736
lack of of understanding of the situation. They're

1503
00:50:37,736 --> 00:50:39,885
their blindness to it. You know? But so

1504
00:50:39,885 --> 00:50:42,289
let... The the interesting overlap is Well, actually,

1505
00:50:42,449 --> 00:50:43,727
before we get into the the over the

1506
00:50:43,727 --> 00:50:46,444
foreign overlap. Last quick point, quick... A quick

1507
00:50:46,444 --> 00:50:47,882
answer here, do you think that they're gonna

1508
00:50:47,882 --> 00:50:50,119
try that again? In regard to shots mandates.

1509
00:50:51,093 --> 00:50:53,410
Pathogens? What do you think? I I think

1510
00:50:53,410 --> 00:50:54,529
the the playbook,

1511
00:50:55,328 --> 00:50:57,565
if we allow it can absolutely be used

1512
00:50:57,565 --> 00:51:00,211
again? If they decide to abandon it, it

1513
00:51:00,211 --> 00:51:01,806
will be because they've just decided they're gonna

1514
00:51:01,806 --> 00:51:03,800
go some other route. They're gonna use some

1515
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:05,554
some other op. But

1516
00:51:07,083 --> 00:51:07,583
I

1517
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:10,750
I'm an optimistic person by nature, but I

1518
00:51:10,750 --> 00:51:12,105
do believe... And And I I think there

1519
00:51:12,105 --> 00:51:14,257
are reasons to be hopeful. Mh. But I

1520
00:51:14,257 --> 00:51:17,147
do believe that true optimism is grounded in

1521
00:51:17,147 --> 00:51:19,384
a realistic appraisal of the gravity of the

1522
00:51:19,384 --> 00:51:22,280
situation. Otherwise, it's just naive. Yeah. And so

1523
00:51:22,594 --> 00:51:24,367
I think sometimes people

1524
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:27,052
assume that we've had more victories than we've

1525
00:51:27,052 --> 00:51:28,963
had. Mh. I think that can be dangerous

1526
00:51:28,963 --> 00:51:29,441
thinking. Yeah.

1527
00:51:30,476 --> 00:51:32,090
Again, I I think there reasons to be

1528
00:51:32,090 --> 00:51:34,989
hopeful. But if if we're not realistic about

1529
00:51:35,849 --> 00:51:38,489
what what's what's stopping them from from either

1530
00:51:38,489 --> 00:51:39,690
using a very similar playbook,

1531
00:51:40,344 --> 00:51:42,179
Or using something else that would be just

1532
00:51:42,179 --> 00:51:44,812
as, you know, as devastating to us, then

1533
00:51:45,450 --> 00:51:47,285
we've... We we still got a long way

1534
00:51:47,285 --> 00:51:48,735
to go. Yeah. I I mean, I agree.

1535
00:51:48,974 --> 00:51:50,806
I I do definitely think I, you, I

1536
00:51:50,806 --> 00:51:52,399
imagine to degree that we have made a

1537
00:51:52,399 --> 00:51:53,514
lot of steps in the right direction. I

1538
00:51:53,514 --> 00:51:54,709
think we have. But I but I I

1539
00:51:54,709 --> 00:51:55,984
would agree with you that, you know, And

1540
00:51:56,143 --> 00:51:57,833
I think this is... The idea of the

1541
00:51:57,833 --> 00:52:00,151
2 party illusion, the games that are played

1542
00:52:00,151 --> 00:52:01,429
the where we kind of fall this trap

1543
00:52:01,429 --> 00:52:03,427
where we... And even maybe to the release

1544
00:52:03,427 --> 00:52:05,759
valve point, where we take what's in front

1545
00:52:05,759 --> 00:52:07,117
of us as a kind of a win

1546
00:52:07,117 --> 00:52:09,035
because we want that. Yeah. You know? And

1547
00:52:09,035 --> 00:52:10,073
even if it is a win, we have

1548
00:52:10,073 --> 00:52:12,151
to recognize that this game is never over

1549
00:52:12,151 --> 00:52:14,162
this is a yin yang, constant battle of

1550
00:52:14,162 --> 00:52:15,599
good evil and I think is never really

1551
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:17,275
gonna go away, and I think it's important

1552
00:52:17,275 --> 00:52:18,871
that we're always just aware of that. There's

1553
00:52:18,871 --> 00:52:21,026
always gonna be those fauci if you will

1554
00:52:21,026 --> 00:52:22,795
or whoever you you think of your mind

1555
00:52:22,795 --> 00:52:24,390
that we'll be driving this, whether for their

1556
00:52:24,390 --> 00:52:26,543
own personal reasons or for some larger agenda.

1557
00:52:26,862 --> 00:52:28,057
So we always just have to be at

1558
00:52:28,057 --> 00:52:29,333
stay vigilant. That's what I'm always talking about.

1559
00:52:29,652 --> 00:52:31,813
You know? Yeah. But so in... You you

1560
00:52:31,813 --> 00:52:34,193
mentioned this this post put up in regard

1561
00:52:34,193 --> 00:52:34,693
to

1562
00:52:35,067 --> 00:52:36,336
wear in a war, but it doesn't look

1563
00:52:36,336 --> 00:52:38,018
the way people think it must look. The

1564
00:52:38,097 --> 00:52:40,321
Battlefield isn't necessarily what many assume it would

1565
00:52:40,321 --> 00:52:42,783
look like. There are powerful warriors that don't

1566
00:52:42,783 --> 00:52:44,610
necessarily look like the typical warrior, and you

1567
00:52:44,610 --> 00:52:46,214
make a point in this just about, you

1568
00:52:46,214 --> 00:52:48,050
know, essentially that we're in a battle that

1569
00:52:48,050 --> 00:52:49,487
we don't recognize in a lot of ways.

1570
00:52:49,646 --> 00:52:51,562
And then we're talking about, like, foreign entities,

1571
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:53,956
manipulating our country, You know, you mentioned that

1572
00:52:53,956 --> 00:52:56,048
a second ago. So in this in in

1573
00:52:56,048 --> 00:52:57,726
this same post you tag the the military

1574
00:52:57,726 --> 00:52:59,664
accountability idea. And so

1575
00:53:00,043 --> 00:53:01,242
before I play this clip that I wanna

1576
00:53:01,242 --> 00:53:02,600
play, I think it's really powerful we could

1577
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,047
talk about it. You know, what do you

1578
00:53:04,047 --> 00:53:05,476
mean by that in general? In regard to

1579
00:53:05,476 --> 00:53:07,882
foreign entities and what should people that are

1580
00:53:07,938 --> 00:53:10,161
newly hearing this Whenever never heard this before?

1581
00:53:10,319 --> 00:53:11,272
You know, what does it mean? What should

1582
00:53:11,272 --> 00:53:13,351
they be looking for? Mh Yeah. It's a

1583
00:53:13,351 --> 00:53:14,304
good question. So

1584
00:53:16,210 --> 00:53:18,036
so there's a there's a term that I

1585
00:53:18,036 --> 00:53:19,703
use and a concept and I'm still very

1586
00:53:19,703 --> 00:53:21,132
much wrestling through it in my mind is

1587
00:53:21,132 --> 00:53:23,291
doing. Exactly what it means and the implications

1588
00:53:23,291 --> 00:53:24,006
thereof of. But

1589
00:53:25,118 --> 00:53:27,024
but it's it's this term deep war. You

1590
00:53:27,024 --> 00:53:28,295
know And I mean a couple of things

1591
00:53:28,295 --> 00:53:29,248
by that. So 1,

1592
00:53:29,978 --> 00:53:31,248
And, you know, people may be familiar with,

1593
00:53:31,328 --> 00:53:32,678
like, of course, people familiar with the term

1594
00:53:32,678 --> 00:53:34,266
deep state or deep events, You know, a

1595
00:53:34,266 --> 00:53:36,252
lot of that comes from professor Peter Scott.

1596
00:53:36,411 --> 00:53:37,523
So I'm kinda using it kind of in

1597
00:53:37,523 --> 00:53:39,842
the same way. Right? That there's there is

1598
00:53:39,842 --> 00:53:42,308
a current well beneath the surface that is

1599
00:53:42,308 --> 00:53:44,456
there and is very powerful. People don't necessarily

1600
00:53:44,456 --> 00:53:45,570
see it. Well,

1601
00:53:46,778 --> 00:53:47,654
When you think about,

1602
00:53:48,530 --> 00:53:50,463
we tend to think of war as

1603
00:53:51,396 --> 00:53:53,307
being something that is physically kinetic and it

1604
00:53:53,307 --> 00:53:54,421
attacks the body. Mh.

1605
00:53:55,312 --> 00:53:56,427
Well, I think we need to be more

1606
00:53:56,427 --> 00:53:57,542
expansive in what we think of as war,

1607
00:53:57,701 --> 00:53:58,577
because we're in a war right now I

1608
00:53:58,577 --> 00:54:00,829
and we. And it's a deep war. So

1609
00:54:00,966 --> 00:54:02,957
there's war that attacks the body, but you

1610
00:54:02,957 --> 00:54:05,204
can go... Deeper, and there's war that attacks

1611
00:54:05,204 --> 00:54:07,437
the mind or the psyche. People know about,

1612
00:54:07,517 --> 00:54:09,590
you know, psychological operations, you know, etcetera.

1613
00:54:10,388 --> 00:54:11,983
But I do think that in this part

1614
00:54:11,983 --> 00:54:12,802
of my worldview

1615
00:54:13,114 --> 00:54:14,633
you know, just as a as a Christian

1616
00:54:14,633 --> 00:54:16,391
and as a believer. But I do think

1617
00:54:16,391 --> 00:54:18,309
you can go 1 step deeper than even

1618
00:54:18,309 --> 00:54:19,267
your your cycling,

1619
00:54:19,747 --> 00:54:21,605
which is where you are attacking,

1620
00:54:21,918 --> 00:54:23,747
you know, the spirit of individuals, and I

1621
00:54:23,985 --> 00:54:26,132
I think that is absolutely happening. But there's

1622
00:54:26,132 --> 00:54:27,563
another sense in which it's also deeper.

1623
00:54:28,199 --> 00:54:30,664
It's also deeper in the sense that

1624
00:54:32,431 --> 00:54:34,367
It's not... Again, it's not just

1625
00:54:34,824 --> 00:54:37,695
physically kinetic, and it's it's it's... Of course,

1626
00:54:37,775 --> 00:54:40,726
people use terms like like, information warfare. I

1627
00:54:40,726 --> 00:54:42,578
mean, it's clearly, clearly part of it.

1628
00:54:44,256 --> 00:54:46,573
I like the term that we we borrowed

1629
00:54:46,573 --> 00:54:48,971
from the Germans, but the V S Creek.

1630
00:54:49,210 --> 00:54:50,659
That's my best that's my best. I don't

1631
00:54:50,659 --> 00:54:52,246
speak German. That's my that's my that's my

1632
00:54:52,246 --> 00:54:55,342
best Can do for pronunciation. But but the

1633
00:54:55,342 --> 00:54:57,486
the literal translation of that is worldview warfare.

1634
00:54:57,739 --> 00:55:00,054
And III really like that term. Yeah. Because

1635
00:55:00,134 --> 00:55:00,613
I think...

1636
00:55:02,050 --> 00:55:03,646
So it's related to the concept of, like,

1637
00:55:03,726 --> 00:55:06,933
you know, psychological warfare psychological operations, And But

1638
00:55:07,013 --> 00:55:10,065
I like how comprehensive that term is World

1639
00:55:10,123 --> 00:55:12,776
warfare because it's not about just me

1640
00:55:13,153 --> 00:55:16,757
maybe trying to manipulate your behavior. Or or

1641
00:55:16,757 --> 00:55:19,708
physically compelling you to do something. It's about

1642
00:55:19,708 --> 00:55:19,947
me,

1643
00:55:20,585 --> 00:55:23,159
not even just attacking your beliefs, but also

1644
00:55:23,297 --> 00:55:25,392
attacking the way that you arrive

1645
00:55:26,023 --> 00:55:29,206
at those beliefs because that in turn will

1646
00:55:29,206 --> 00:55:31,195
influence your behavior because then you will change

1647
00:55:31,195 --> 00:55:33,760
your behavior. Yet. Right. And and that's the

1648
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,000
kind of environment that we live in. So

1649
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,039
it's it's it's extremely deep. We are absolutely

1650
00:55:39,039 --> 00:55:41,380
in a war. We failed able to recognize

1651
00:55:41,519 --> 00:55:43,713
it because it... Doesn't look like

1652
00:55:44,092 --> 00:55:46,728
what we think of in terms of war.

1653
00:55:46,967 --> 00:55:48,805
That makes sense. Absolutely. I mean, Just call

1654
00:55:48,885 --> 00:55:49,125
Halt.

1655
00:55:50,018 --> 00:55:51,936
Well, that that is a that is a

1656
00:55:51,936 --> 00:55:53,215
form of war, and and I would tell

1657
00:55:53,215 --> 00:55:54,014
you also that

1658
00:55:55,692 --> 00:55:58,023
psychological warfare or even spiritual works fair. That's

1659
00:55:58,023 --> 00:56:00,273
what that's what I was. Those are not

1660
00:56:01,045 --> 00:56:03,829
those are not metaphors because the moment you

1661
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:06,391
say that they're fair metaphors. You're almost kinda

1662
00:56:06,391 --> 00:56:08,301
saying, well, you know, we describe it in

1663
00:56:08,301 --> 00:56:10,927
this way, you know, etcetera, etcetera. And I

1664
00:56:10,927 --> 00:56:12,280
myself, I think I've used that in the

1665
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,191
past. I've used those terms kinda it is

1666
00:56:14,191 --> 00:56:15,879
metaphors. But they're not... Like, it is war.

1667
00:56:16,039 --> 00:56:18,349
Right? You know, it it's not just we're

1668
00:56:18,349 --> 00:56:20,581
not just making comparisons or or drawing some

1669
00:56:20,581 --> 00:56:23,169
sort of of connection, No. I mean, it

1670
00:56:23,308 --> 00:56:25,386
is war. Right? You know? I completely agree.

1671
00:56:25,546 --> 00:56:27,943
That the spiritual warfare that was the thing

1672
00:56:27,943 --> 00:56:29,302
that jumped into my mind about that because

1673
00:56:29,302 --> 00:56:30,740
it really is, like, you're... What... It's...

1674
00:56:31,394 --> 00:56:31,952
Like you said,

1675
00:56:32,829 --> 00:56:33,967
getting not just

1676
00:56:34,503 --> 00:56:36,496
interactions, but actually manipulating you so you make

1677
00:56:36,496 --> 00:56:38,090
the action they want you to. Right? So

1678
00:56:38,090 --> 00:56:40,098
like this preemptive concept. I see that, with

1679
00:56:40,098 --> 00:56:42,166
everything that's with that's happening today. It's it's

1680
00:56:42,166 --> 00:56:44,472
deeper, like, you're... As you're highlighting. And. I

1681
00:56:44,472 --> 00:56:45,210
think that

1682
00:56:45,824 --> 00:56:47,891
it's it's such a core concept, and I

1683
00:56:47,891 --> 00:56:49,423
think this overlaps. I mean you really described

1684
00:56:49,423 --> 00:56:50,882
it well. Like, all the psychological

1685
00:56:51,341 --> 00:56:53,260
manipulation. I do think it's a spiritual aspect

1686
00:56:53,260 --> 00:56:54,938
of it, whether we're talking about religion or

1687
00:56:54,938 --> 00:56:57,175
not. I think that there's a, a real

1688
00:56:57,175 --> 00:56:58,110
powerful aspect that

1689
00:56:58,943 --> 00:57:01,245
Good example is through our political system right

1690
00:57:01,245 --> 00:57:03,333
now. We can see a lot of people

1691
00:57:03,943 --> 00:57:05,690
believing that some of these political candidates are

1692
00:57:05,690 --> 00:57:08,326
now, like Gods sent. Like, literally believing that

1693
00:57:08,326 --> 00:57:09,916
the Trump was sent by God? You know,

1694
00:57:10,074 --> 00:57:11,426
how do you fight something like that? How

1695
00:57:11,426 --> 00:57:12,856
do you disagree? How do you have a

1696
00:57:12,856 --> 00:57:14,684
ami conversation about why he might not be

1697
00:57:14,684 --> 00:57:16,449
the right person when they believe you're, you,

1698
00:57:16,528 --> 00:57:18,203
the devil. You know, it's like it's an

1699
00:57:18,203 --> 00:57:20,197
interesting game that's being played. And so I

1700
00:57:20,277 --> 00:57:23,068
I think that is AAA real concept that

1701
00:57:23,068 --> 00:57:24,025
we need to be aware of in this

1702
00:57:24,025 --> 00:57:26,514
country that we are being manipulated by our

1703
00:57:26,514 --> 00:57:28,674
government to make sure that we act in

1704
00:57:28,674 --> 00:57:30,835
interest and I argue our counter to American

1705
00:57:30,835 --> 00:57:33,335
interest. So do you see that being played

1706
00:57:34,047 --> 00:57:36,192
in a way from foreign entities or something

1707
00:57:36,192 --> 00:57:37,860
that is a global list concept. How do...

1708
00:57:38,019 --> 00:57:39,449
When you mentioned... I I brought up the

1709
00:57:39,449 --> 00:57:40,584
the post editor

1710
00:57:40,974 --> 00:57:42,574
where it simply says the military. Like the

1711
00:57:42,574 --> 00:57:44,815
government is effectively controlled by network of power

1712
00:57:44,815 --> 00:57:46,894
that aren't loyal to our country because they

1713
00:57:46,894 --> 00:57:48,654
aren't even American. So what would you mean

1714
00:57:48,654 --> 00:57:49,954
by that? Explain point.

1715
00:57:51,388 --> 00:57:53,304
And this gets murky because, you know, it's

1716
00:57:53,304 --> 00:57:55,459
it's very hard for us to figure... You,

1717
00:57:55,539 --> 00:57:57,056
you know, who rules the world.

1718
00:57:57,774 --> 00:57:59,131
That is a complex question.

1719
00:58:00,184 --> 00:58:02,735
So do I believe that we are infiltrated

1720
00:58:02,735 --> 00:58:04,967
by foreign powers? Yes. I do. Do I

1721
00:58:04,967 --> 00:58:07,119
believe that we are also potentially infiltrated by

1722
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:07,757
some sort of,

1723
00:58:08,569 --> 00:58:10,081
you know, use whatever term you wanna use,

1724
00:58:10,877 --> 00:58:13,184
global Cabal or what whatever term you wanna

1725
00:58:13,184 --> 00:58:13,423
use.

1726
00:58:14,458 --> 00:58:15,891
And, yeah I mean, I think that's happening

1727
00:58:15,891 --> 00:58:17,721
too. So there's kind of this confluence of

1728
00:58:17,721 --> 00:58:19,113
interest, And I think sometimes

1729
00:58:19,730 --> 00:58:19,969
it's...

1730
00:58:21,805 --> 00:58:23,321
When you when you... Okay. When you're in

1731
00:58:23,321 --> 00:58:25,156
high school or later, you know, you take,

1732
00:58:25,236 --> 00:58:27,084
like, an undergrad, class, whether it's a history

1733
00:58:27,084 --> 00:58:29,870
class political science or international relations. You learn

1734
00:58:29,870 --> 00:58:33,532
this very simplified model of geopolitics where you

1735
00:58:33,532 --> 00:58:34,032
learn

1736
00:58:35,223 --> 00:58:36,982
You know, states are out there. They act

1737
00:58:36,982 --> 00:58:39,539
in their own interests and then sure there

1738
00:58:39,539 --> 00:58:40,978
may be a little bit of corruption, but

1739
00:58:40,978 --> 00:58:42,576
largely states act in their own interests, and

1740
00:58:42,576 --> 00:58:44,690
then of course you got, you know, large

1741
00:58:45,070 --> 00:58:46,289
corporations. You've got

1742
00:58:46,670 --> 00:58:49,630
criminal organizations like cartel or terrorists. But, like,

1743
00:58:49,789 --> 00:58:51,710
that's largely your geopolitical model. Mh.

1744
00:58:52,603 --> 00:58:53,956
What it doesn't. And, of course, you know,

1745
00:58:54,115 --> 00:58:55,787
Espionage just for part of that. You'll you'll

1746
00:58:55,787 --> 00:58:57,060
learn that as part of, you know, this

1747
00:58:57,060 --> 00:58:59,686
this model too. But what you don't necessarily

1748
00:58:59,686 --> 00:59:01,597
learn is, well, what if there are...

1749
00:59:02,650 --> 00:59:03,789
Organizations operating

1750
00:59:04,250 --> 00:59:06,429
deep deep in the shadows that are

1751
00:59:08,409 --> 00:59:11,264
manipulating, you know, both sides of very large

1752
00:59:11,463 --> 00:59:13,770
conflicts. Like supernatural national entities that don't really

1753
00:59:13,770 --> 00:59:15,520
have loyalty to any... They don't have a

1754
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,225
loyalty. And then what happens if you're a

1755
00:59:18,225 --> 00:59:19,816
citizen of whatever country, Mh.

1756
00:59:20,547 --> 00:59:22,239
What happens if your leaders

1757
00:59:22,614 --> 00:59:24,784
are somehow in some way

1758
00:59:25,556 --> 00:59:27,623
behold to a supernatural national organizations.

1759
00:59:28,434 --> 00:59:30,346
And then therefore, when they act,

1760
00:59:30,983 --> 00:59:33,533
sometimes they may be acting in in the

1761
00:59:33,533 --> 00:59:35,525
interest of the country that they represent. Mh.

1762
00:59:35,764 --> 00:59:38,326
And sometimes they may not be. Right I

1763
00:59:38,326 --> 00:59:40,785
know. Right. And it's and it's harder exactly

1764
00:59:40,785 --> 00:59:42,926
what that influence looks like. But people who

1765
00:59:42,926 --> 00:59:44,989
think that that sounds, you know, too crazier

1766
00:59:44,989 --> 00:59:45,489
cons.

1767
00:59:46,675 --> 00:59:47,554
I would say, well,

1768
00:59:48,514 --> 00:59:50,295
I don't care how it sounds

1769
00:59:50,594 --> 00:59:52,195
necessarily. You know? I mean, we we just

1770
00:59:52,195 --> 00:59:54,684
gotta be realistic about... What's happening around us.

1771
00:59:54,923 --> 00:59:56,435
Right. But I would also look at Covid

1772
00:59:56,594 --> 00:59:59,061
Covid was a worldwide up. Right. Now we

1773
00:59:59,061 --> 01:00:00,733
can we can try and figure out where

1774
01:00:00,733 --> 01:00:02,643
we think it was run from, and maybe

1775
01:00:02,643 --> 01:00:04,573
who was kinda... The spear for this operation,

1776
01:00:04,892 --> 01:00:07,469
but it was worldwide, and you also see

1777
01:00:09,686 --> 01:00:10,186
virtually

1778
01:00:11,058 --> 01:00:12,114
every country

1779
01:00:12,728 --> 01:00:14,477
went along with it. Mh. And there were

1780
01:00:14,477 --> 01:00:16,943
maybe a couple of outliers and the leaders

1781
01:00:16,943 --> 01:00:18,772
of those countries did not, you know, did

1782
01:00:18,772 --> 01:00:21,327
not. Fair too well. Right. Right. Africa is

1783
01:00:21,327 --> 01:00:22,438
a lot of good example. So when did

1784
01:00:22,596 --> 01:00:23,469
I was just about to say this Mh.

1785
01:00:23,786 --> 01:00:26,460
When did Africa become the the bastion of

1786
01:00:26,659 --> 01:00:28,807
freedom. But I mean... Right. You know? And

1787
01:00:28,807 --> 01:00:29,307
and,

1788
01:00:29,683 --> 01:00:31,673
yeah. You know, there's there's just a sad

1789
01:00:31,673 --> 01:00:33,901
history of of Africa. You know. And, I

1790
01:00:33,901 --> 01:00:34,936
mean, you know, you wanna talk about a

1791
01:00:34,936 --> 01:00:36,152
continent That's just been

1792
01:00:36,701 --> 01:00:38,920
exploited it for for hundreds of years. Mh.

1793
01:00:39,158 --> 01:00:41,774
But but you're right. I mean, you look

1794
01:00:41,774 --> 01:00:43,122
at... You know, there's a story of course

1795
01:00:43,122 --> 01:00:43,201
of,

1796
01:00:44,488 --> 01:00:46,083
president. You know, my a fully of Tanzania,

1797
01:00:46,163 --> 01:00:48,077
and and I think maybe even Be may

1798
01:00:48,077 --> 01:00:48,577
have

1799
01:00:49,114 --> 01:00:51,028
stood up and resisted what was going on

1800
01:00:51,028 --> 01:00:52,405
with with Covid. But

1801
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:55,685
But where were the other,

1802
01:00:56,217 --> 01:00:56,455
you know,

1803
01:00:57,329 --> 01:00:59,631
nearly 200 countries in the world. Right All

1804
01:00:59,631 --> 01:01:01,616
screening about freedom and Liberty, You know, about

1805
01:01:01,616 --> 01:01:03,378
what you're acting like they represent? You know,

1806
01:01:03,537 --> 01:01:05,687
III often thought about that in regard to,

1807
01:01:05,766 --> 01:01:06,005
you know,

1808
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,553
I believe a lot of them as you're

1809
01:01:08,553 --> 01:01:11,315
highlighting we're either behold into something else. You

1810
01:01:11,513 --> 01:01:13,735
or acting in their own immediate self interest

1811
01:01:13,735 --> 01:01:15,559
at at the expense of their own peoples.

1812
01:01:15,956 --> 01:01:17,146
Yeah. But I do think a lot of

1813
01:01:17,146 --> 01:01:18,519
them were just either pressured

1814
01:01:18,829 --> 01:01:20,907
through many different mechanisms to go along with

1815
01:01:20,907 --> 01:01:22,745
something or even arguably there could have been

1816
01:01:22,745 --> 01:01:25,222
an example of something just didn't see it,

1817
01:01:25,462 --> 01:01:26,981
which I find really hard to believe. And

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01:01:27,061 --> 01:01:28,832
I mean, like, right in the beginning, After

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01:01:28,832 --> 01:01:30,746
a very short period of time, they all

1820
01:01:30,746 --> 01:01:31,943
had the opportunity to see what was really

1821
01:01:31,943 --> 01:01:33,857
going on. Yeah. But, you know, the the

1822
01:01:33,857 --> 01:01:36,829
fact that we saw this worldwide locks

1823
01:01:37,286 --> 01:01:37,606
agenda,

1824
01:01:38,259 --> 01:01:39,850
is it's... I don't know how anybody can

1825
01:01:39,850 --> 01:01:41,998
stand back 10 that's not the... The best

1826
01:01:41,998 --> 01:01:43,829
evidence we have of something like that. That's...

1827
01:01:43,988 --> 01:01:45,181
As far as I know is never in

1828
01:01:45,181 --> 01:01:47,744
history ever happened. Right? I mean, that... Expansive.

1829
01:01:48,063 --> 01:01:50,780
Yeah. I'm right. I mean, certainly in in

1830
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:52,777
the in the lifetime of anybody who's, you

1831
01:01:52,777 --> 01:01:54,869
know, alive right now. Yeah. Yeah Absolutely Well,

1832
01:01:55,027 --> 01:01:55,902
I mean I would even say, you know,

1833
01:01:56,062 --> 01:01:57,733
you go back to something like, I mean,

1834
01:01:57,891 --> 01:01:59,642
I'm not a major history buff, but, you

1835
01:01:59,642 --> 01:02:01,233
know, like, a Roman time concept or, like,

1836
01:02:01,313 --> 01:02:02,665
where there was a large part of the

1837
01:02:02,665 --> 01:02:04,275
world that was on concord. But even then,

1838
01:02:04,514 --> 01:02:05,734
there was not... You had

1839
01:02:06,194 --> 01:02:07,554
other... And like, I just think you saw,

1840
01:02:07,634 --> 01:02:10,275
like you said, almost everybody across the globe,

1841
01:02:10,594 --> 01:02:13,242
countries that were at odds, like, at Borderline

1842
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:15,789
Wartime that some suddenly, we're saying the same

1843
01:02:15,789 --> 01:02:16,904
things about how this need to be handled.

1844
01:02:17,143 --> 01:02:18,814
Yeah. I just did blows my mind. And

1845
01:02:18,893 --> 01:02:20,247
I think that that just shows you very

1846
01:02:20,247 --> 01:02:21,463
clearly that there is something

1847
01:02:22,092 --> 01:02:24,080
above all of that. Yeah Right? And, you

1848
01:02:24,080 --> 01:02:25,670
know, so what would you think that would

1849
01:02:25,670 --> 01:02:27,738
look like? Yeah. Well, there are couple of

1850
01:02:27,738 --> 01:02:28,851
examples that we can talk through some of.

1851
01:02:29,010 --> 01:02:30,521
And, also, let me just preface my comments

1852
01:02:30,521 --> 01:02:30,839
by saying,

1853
01:02:32,526 --> 01:02:34,440
you know, going back to the military accountability

1854
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,868
movement. So our military accountability movement is is

1855
01:02:37,868 --> 01:02:39,723
non partisan and it is very

1856
01:02:40,353 --> 01:02:41,410
It's kinda narrowly

1857
01:02:41,863 --> 01:02:44,248
defined because it is grounded in the constitution

1858
01:02:44,248 --> 01:02:46,235
in laws and in military regulations, etcetera.

1859
01:02:46,871 --> 01:02:47,030
So,

1860
01:02:48,157 --> 01:02:50,143
So when you start getting outside of what

1861
01:02:50,143 --> 01:02:51,994
we're trying to accomplish with just the the

1862
01:02:52,209 --> 01:02:54,355
implementation, the mandate. Mh. You're gonna start to

1863
01:02:54,355 --> 01:02:56,285
get a divergence of opinions. So

1864
01:02:56,753 --> 01:02:58,027
So when you're talking to me, you know,

1865
01:02:58,186 --> 01:03:00,414
I'm very much giving you my opinions, you

1866
01:03:00,414 --> 01:03:03,439
know, that that may or not necessarily be

1867
01:03:03,439 --> 01:03:03,677
what...

1868
01:03:04,567 --> 01:03:07,027
Other people inside the military accountability movement, you

1869
01:03:07,027 --> 01:03:08,614
know, may think because that's a that's a

1870
01:03:08,614 --> 01:03:11,549
very that's a very specific movement with a

1871
01:03:11,549 --> 01:03:12,605
very specific

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01:03:13,394 --> 01:03:13,894
deliberately

1873
01:03:14,273 --> 01:03:15,551
narrow focus. You know?

1874
01:03:16,430 --> 01:03:18,187
But... Yeah, What would this what would this

1875
01:03:18,187 --> 01:03:20,045
infiltration look like? So there are

1876
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there are countries,

1877
01:03:22,739 --> 01:03:23,612
I'll give you 2 examples.

1878
01:03:24,882 --> 01:03:27,105
If you ask the average American,

1879
01:03:28,632 --> 01:03:29,770
Do you believe

1880
01:03:30,147 --> 01:03:31,445
that there are foreign

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01:03:31,902 --> 01:03:35,034
nations that have infiltrated or at least greatly

1882
01:03:35,251 --> 01:03:35,751
influence

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01:03:36,448 --> 01:03:37,325
American policies.

1884
01:03:38,137 --> 01:03:39,253
You know, foreign and domestic.

1885
01:03:41,643 --> 01:03:43,236
Many Americans are gonna answer yes to that

1886
01:03:43,236 --> 01:03:44,851
question. And if you ask them who

1887
01:03:45,164 --> 01:03:46,919
I think you're gonna get 1 of 2

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answers or maybe both. And I think they're

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01:03:48,913 --> 01:03:50,748
gonna say China and Israel. I think that's

1890
01:03:50,748 --> 01:03:51,706
what you're you're...

1891
01:03:52,359 --> 01:03:54,115
A lot of Americans are gonna are gonna

1892
01:03:54,115 --> 01:03:55,552
go to. Quick comment, I just think it's

1893
01:03:55,552 --> 01:03:57,228
interesting. I would I would argue that it's

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probably the vast majority, but I would argue

1895
01:03:59,783 --> 01:04:02,741
it's probably split between... China, Russia. I think

1896
01:04:02,741 --> 01:04:04,565
he'll there are things changing right now being

1897
01:04:04,565 --> 01:04:06,309
about is real, but that's always been so

1898
01:04:06,309 --> 01:04:08,213
interesting to me. And... Look, I've always argued

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that all of them, Mean, I think I

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01:04:10,059 --> 01:04:11,500
and you could speak to this, but in

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01:04:11,500 --> 01:04:14,139
my opinion, I think every government every military

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01:04:14,139 --> 01:04:15,819
is in their own ways acting in their

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01:04:15,819 --> 01:04:18,074
interest to... Spy on foreign countries is the

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01:04:18,074 --> 01:04:19,914
espionage point you made. You know, that all

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01:04:19,914 --> 01:04:21,434
of them are. And so it's not a

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01:04:21,434 --> 01:04:23,355
really a question of, it's just... Is it

1907
01:04:23,355 --> 01:04:25,570
happening? A question of, Is it happening enough

1908
01:04:25,769 --> 01:04:28,004
that's changing the outgoing policy against the interest

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01:04:28,004 --> 01:04:29,441
of the country? Yeah. And I do think

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that's happening. Yeah. Did do you have any

1911
01:04:31,357 --> 01:04:32,873
thoughts on in Your opinion? I I mean,

1912
01:04:33,193 --> 01:04:34,963
I think my audience is well aware right

1913
01:04:34,963 --> 01:04:37,112
now, especially where I think the largest out

1914
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undue influence is coming from, and I think

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01:04:39,101 --> 01:04:40,533
it's being called out by a lot of

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01:04:40,533 --> 01:04:42,045
people that have never even discussed this before.

1917
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Yeah. Do you have any thoughts on 3.

1918
01:04:44,210 --> 01:04:46,200
Who... So the the the question that I

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01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,190
have is, and I don't necessarily know the

1920
01:04:48,190 --> 01:04:49,146
answer. This isn't something that I think about

1921
01:04:49,146 --> 01:04:49,305
a lot.

1922
01:04:50,993 --> 01:04:53,306
Because I do tend to think that there

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is

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and it may be 1

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01:04:56,496 --> 01:04:58,650
organization, but, you know, that there are certain

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01:04:58,650 --> 01:05:00,107
types of organizations

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01:05:00,499 --> 01:05:03,609
or or, kinda, you know, steering committee type

1928
01:05:03,609 --> 01:05:04,827
groups that are

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01:05:05,922 --> 01:05:07,597
orchestrating things from the background and then are

1930
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kinda of manipulating what's going on in in

1931
01:05:09,431 --> 01:05:11,456
in a lot of... Different countries. And so

1932
01:05:13,891 --> 01:05:16,588
so do I think that China does things

1933
01:05:16,588 --> 01:05:18,987
to operate in its own interests, different Absolutely.

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01:05:19,227 --> 01:05:21,141
Mh. And to some degree, does that mean

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01:05:21,141 --> 01:05:22,359
that they have to

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you, you know, imp what we're doing to

1937
01:05:25,927 --> 01:05:27,282
meet our own objectives, of course, and they're

1938
01:05:27,282 --> 01:05:28,160
going to do that for sure.

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01:05:29,293 --> 01:05:31,152
Do I also think that

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that China's leaders

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01:05:33,369 --> 01:05:35,307
are also to some degree

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01:05:35,766 --> 01:05:36,985
influenced c?

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01:05:39,533 --> 01:05:41,447
Or or control it make controls a strong

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01:05:41,447 --> 01:05:43,701
word. But but, by by

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01:05:44,317 --> 01:05:46,072
some of these groups potentially operating from the

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01:05:46,072 --> 01:05:46,391
shadows,

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I tend to think that is occurring. The

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01:05:48,718 --> 01:05:50,711
question of course is, you know, to what

1949
01:05:50,711 --> 01:05:52,465
degree, and that's that's it's hard to know.

1950
01:05:52,704 --> 01:05:54,459
Yeah. But, I would also say reverse that,

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01:05:54,618 --> 01:05:56,864
you know, whether it's... Both Russia, China or

1952
01:05:56,864 --> 01:05:58,534
israel or any other country that, yes, I

1953
01:05:58,534 --> 01:06:00,602
think they're actively doing so to varying to

1954
01:06:00,602 --> 01:06:02,432
degrees of success. But the same thing reverse,

1955
01:06:03,083 --> 01:06:04,599
I think that's obviously the 1 that we

1956
01:06:04,599 --> 01:06:06,114
didn't mention in the United States government in

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01:06:06,114 --> 01:06:07,811
the military, which I think are actively

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01:06:08,188 --> 01:06:09,863
to... 1 of the largest examples in the

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01:06:09,863 --> 01:06:11,857
world of doing so maybe in the name

1960
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of Freedom, maybe not around. Maybe always in

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01:06:14,030 --> 01:06:15,469
the name Freedom, maybe not actually in the

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01:06:15,469 --> 01:06:17,390
name of freedom, but that they're doing so

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01:06:17,390 --> 01:06:19,630
around the world. In in most countries we

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01:06:19,630 --> 01:06:21,309
can highlight. Many of which they have agreements

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01:06:21,309 --> 01:06:22,837
with, not I, you could... I mean, look

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01:06:22,837 --> 01:06:25,143
no further than Germany and and a lot

1967
01:06:25,143 --> 01:06:27,552
of Europe, Nord stream, those kind of overlap

1968
01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:29,199
conversations where you can see Us...

1969
01:06:29,915 --> 01:06:33,264
I foreign policy acting directly against their coordination

1970
01:06:33,264 --> 01:06:35,010
with these countries. Even though they still have

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01:06:35,010 --> 01:06:36,994
an agreement, they're aware of those things. You

1972
01:06:36,994 --> 01:06:38,106
know And so I think that's a lot

1973
01:06:38,106 --> 01:06:40,351
of it. But I obviously would argue I

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01:06:40,351 --> 01:06:42,346
think right now it's becoming more and more

1975
01:06:42,346 --> 01:06:44,282
obvious that Israel has an

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01:06:44,659 --> 01:06:47,150
an unrealistic... I mean, what's the best word

1977
01:06:47,150 --> 01:06:49,789
for? There's not... The the influence Israel has

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01:06:49,789 --> 01:06:51,170
on American policy is

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01:06:51,550 --> 01:06:53,230
unbelievable. Mh. And I've been calling this out

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for a very long time, which has just

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01:06:54,989 --> 01:06:57,321
to state nothing to do with religion or

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01:06:57,321 --> 01:06:59,235
ethnicity. It has to do very clearly with

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01:06:59,235 --> 01:07:02,345
your government policy and the overwhelming influence they

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01:07:02,345 --> 01:07:04,099
have. And so I think that's the part

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01:07:04,099 --> 01:07:05,375
that really stands out. I didn't know if

1986
01:07:05,375 --> 01:07:06,587
that was kind of what you were feeling

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in that post. I just... I think that's

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01:07:08,662 --> 01:07:11,136
so very important to see, and I think

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with what's going on the war and so

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01:07:12,572 --> 01:07:14,182
on, more and more comes out, right, from

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01:07:14,261 --> 01:07:15,135
Apa influence of,

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01:07:16,010 --> 01:07:18,235
politicians that I think that there's a a

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01:07:18,235 --> 01:07:21,256
clear example of they... What we're highlighting. That

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you have governments acting,

1995
01:07:22,925 --> 01:07:25,433
right including government representatives in our government

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directly explicitly in unconstitutional ways at the expense

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01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,595
of our people. You know? And so anyway,

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I wanna state that. I think... Right. So

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typically... And everyone has their their terms they

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01:07:35,471 --> 01:07:37,542
typically use. I haven't necessarily been found 1

2001
01:07:37,542 --> 01:07:39,374
yet that I really like. But I tend

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01:07:39,374 --> 01:07:41,206
if I'm making a post whatever I'm speaking.

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01:07:41,605 --> 01:07:43,380
Right I tend to use the the term

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network of power, which I I understand to

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01:07:45,859 --> 01:07:48,019
some people will be will be ne.

2006
01:07:49,547 --> 01:07:51,213
But of, it is gonna be a little

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01:07:51,213 --> 01:07:52,719
bit Am morph because it's also kinda hard

2008
01:07:52,719 --> 01:07:54,859
to define. And I use that term because

2009
01:07:54,859 --> 01:07:55,890
it can it can

2010
01:07:57,017 --> 01:08:00,144
include foreign powers, but they can also include

2011
01:08:00,281 --> 01:08:02,351
something that might be operating, you know, kind

2012
01:08:02,351 --> 01:08:04,715
of above different states and maybe even if

2013
01:08:04,755 --> 01:08:06,350
be relating, you know, both sides Or through

2014
01:08:06,350 --> 01:08:08,106
a state. Or through a. Yeah. Yeah. Or,

2015
01:08:08,265 --> 01:08:10,100
you're all the above. Right? Because I do

2016
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believe that there are

2017
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large

2018
01:08:12,586 --> 01:08:15,287
constructed dialect that are happening, you know, inside

2019
01:08:15,287 --> 01:08:16,956
our country, but also on the world stage,

2020
01:08:17,432 --> 01:08:20,212
which are clearly being manipulated by someone,

2021
01:08:21,104 --> 01:08:22,863
for specific purposes. And I think israel is

2022
01:08:22,863 --> 01:08:24,060
a great example of that. I think Ukraine

2023
01:08:24,060 --> 01:08:25,659
is also another example of that. Absolutely. And

2024
01:08:25,659 --> 01:08:27,417
there are there are so many of these

2025
01:08:27,417 --> 01:08:30,408
that happen just inside our own country. So

2026
01:08:31,418 --> 01:08:34,758
do I think that that Israel has undue

2027
01:08:34,758 --> 01:08:37,541
influence on the United States un questionable. Like,

2028
01:08:37,699 --> 01:08:39,345
it it it it's just it's it's

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01:08:39,703 --> 01:08:41,716
un unreasonable. And there is

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01:08:43,048 --> 01:08:45,756
no legitimate reason for it whatsoever. This just

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01:08:45,756 --> 01:08:46,074
there's not.

2032
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:47,769
However,

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01:08:48,957 --> 01:08:49,457
I

2034
01:08:49,913 --> 01:08:51,347
something that I kick around in my own

2035
01:08:51,347 --> 01:08:52,645
mind a lot is

2036
01:08:54,376 --> 01:08:54,876
is

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01:08:55,252 --> 01:08:55,752
Israel

2038
01:08:56,462 --> 01:08:58,131
influencing and controlling the United States to some

2039
01:08:58,131 --> 01:08:58,528
degree Yes.

2040
01:09:00,435 --> 01:09:04,010
But also might it be that Israel is

2041
01:09:04,010 --> 01:09:04,510
also

2042
01:09:05,296 --> 01:09:06,511
controlled by certain

2043
01:09:06,885 --> 01:09:09,029
organizations that also control the United States. Mh.

2044
01:09:09,505 --> 01:09:11,411
As opposed to... Or in addition to just

2045
01:09:11,411 --> 01:09:13,634
the influence kinda from Israel to the United

2046
01:09:13,792 --> 01:09:15,952
States but also that whoever's kind of operating

2047
01:09:15,952 --> 01:09:18,333
in the shadows above Right. Are manipulating israel

2048
01:09:18,333 --> 01:09:20,556
this thing where they're manipulating United States and

2049
01:09:20,556 --> 01:09:22,319
manipulating probably a lot of other. You know.

2050
01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,157
You know, nations around the world. Actually I

2051
01:09:24,157 --> 01:09:25,116
think there's a lot of that going on

2052
01:09:25,116 --> 01:09:26,954
as well. Hundred percent, a hundred. I I

2053
01:09:26,954 --> 01:09:28,632
think that's... You know, and this is the

2054
01:09:28,632 --> 01:09:30,550
the point that the larger point about how

2055
01:09:30,550 --> 01:09:32,645
this is, again, just kind of what all

2056
01:09:32,645 --> 01:09:34,005
of them are always doing, and I love

2057
01:09:34,005 --> 01:09:35,925
how it becomes, you know, when you wanna

2058
01:09:35,925 --> 01:09:37,764
make the point, you go, Russia, did this

2059
01:09:37,764 --> 01:09:39,284
bad thing, and it's like, well, yeah. You...

2060
01:09:39,444 --> 01:09:41,212
So are you this... Moment. You know, just

2061
01:09:41,212 --> 01:09:43,674
this dishonest is tactic, but it's still important

2062
01:09:43,674 --> 01:09:45,898
to highlight the the the large examples of

2063
01:09:45,898 --> 01:09:47,168
it. And I agree with you. I think

2064
01:09:47,168 --> 01:09:49,411
we're talking about a a supernatural national, like,

2065
01:09:49,730 --> 01:09:52,203
outside that framework, Yeah. Entity that is both

2066
01:09:52,203 --> 01:09:54,676
working through these countries, manipulating them for their

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01:09:54,676 --> 01:09:56,270
own benefit. And this is where people can...

2068
01:09:56,590 --> 01:09:58,319
I have often point to James Cor work

2069
01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:00,194
as he, I think you the engineered fall

2070
01:10:00,194 --> 01:10:02,689
of the west and idea of those very

2071
01:10:02,747 --> 01:10:05,061
entities sort of transitioning. As you even highlighted

2072
01:10:05,061 --> 01:10:07,074
this long term kind of... Plan away from

2073
01:10:07,074 --> 01:10:09,155
the Us into a China or something else.

2074
01:10:09,314 --> 01:10:10,435
Yeah. And I I do agree with that.

2075
01:10:10,675 --> 01:10:11,954
I think that's a at least a... A

2076
01:10:11,954 --> 01:10:14,195
high... Likely possibility. Yeah And he's got great

2077
01:10:14,195 --> 01:10:16,364
work. Absolutely. You know, So you look at

2078
01:10:16,364 --> 01:10:17,958
an organization that I think is out there

2079
01:10:17,958 --> 01:10:19,073
that I think is a is a total,

2080
01:10:19,313 --> 01:10:21,145
just a just a front organization, and that's

2081
01:10:21,145 --> 01:10:23,375
the the world economic forum. Right. So, you

2082
01:10:23,375 --> 01:10:25,701
know, I I think I think Klaus schwab,

2083
01:10:25,861 --> 01:10:27,376
who and And I realize he's just stepped

2084
01:10:27,376 --> 01:10:28,970
down. I don't think that means anything. Mh.

2085
01:10:29,289 --> 01:10:31,044
But I also don't necessarily think that he

2086
01:10:31,044 --> 01:10:32,399
has a whole lot of power. It's really

2087
01:10:32,399 --> 01:10:33,676
all about. Well, who's...

2088
01:10:34,329 --> 01:10:36,250
Behind him. I think Klaus schwab is supposed

2089
01:10:36,250 --> 01:10:38,970
to look like, kinda ridiculous. I mean, he's

2090
01:10:39,050 --> 01:10:40,729
I got Real. Yeah. I mean I got

2091
01:10:40,729 --> 01:10:41,369
intentional. You know?

2092
01:10:42,658 --> 01:10:44,407
It is kind of ridiculous the cartoon ish

2093
01:10:44,407 --> 01:10:45,678
the way he told it. It it is

2094
01:10:45,678 --> 01:10:48,166
cartoon. I mean, he is a perfect car.

2095
01:10:48,461 --> 01:10:50,550
Mh. Of you know, what you would think

2096
01:10:50,550 --> 01:10:52,390
of if you were trying to just create

2097
01:10:52,390 --> 01:10:53,909
just... Just... Someone not supposed to be taken

2098
01:10:53,909 --> 01:10:56,150
seriously. Right. Even in... The clothes war the

2099
01:10:56,150 --> 01:10:58,164
that weird V neck thing, it's like, right

2100
01:10:58,164 --> 01:10:59,685
out of some Super villain movie of Star

2101
01:10:59,685 --> 01:11:02,485
wars or something. Yeah I mean absolutely. Absolutely

2102
01:11:02,564 --> 01:11:04,805
And again, I think it's totally deliberate. Mh.

2103
01:11:05,939 --> 01:11:08,113
But to some degree, I think what's what's

2104
01:11:08,967 --> 01:11:10,344
what we are... If we're

2105
01:11:11,119 --> 01:11:12,713
att to it, and we can discern what's

2106
01:11:12,713 --> 01:11:14,720
going on there. I think what we're supposed

2107
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:17,350
to realize is that the world economic forum

2108
01:11:17,350 --> 01:11:19,343
is is not some organization that has a

2109
01:11:19,343 --> 01:11:20,858
lot of power. Mh. But it may be

2110
01:11:20,858 --> 01:11:21,415
a front.

2111
01:11:21,988 --> 01:11:24,462
For organization or networks or people that certainly

2112
01:11:24,462 --> 01:11:26,057
do. But the reason I bring them up

2113
01:11:26,057 --> 01:11:26,536
is because,

2114
01:11:28,052 --> 01:11:28,371
you know,

2115
01:11:29,662 --> 01:11:32,213
of course, there are statements where where where

2116
01:11:32,213 --> 01:11:33,192
we've been told

2117
01:11:33,649 --> 01:11:36,621
China is the model Mh. For where the

2118
01:11:36,679 --> 01:11:38,924
world is headed. Right. You know? Yeah. And

2119
01:11:39,003 --> 01:11:40,616
I think that's based on the idea of

2120
01:11:40,752 --> 01:11:42,899
the techno side of it. 100 percent. Yeah.

2121
01:11:43,137 --> 01:11:43,614
Absolutely.

2122
01:11:44,171 --> 01:11:45,682
Well, so I know we've

2123
01:11:46,413 --> 01:11:47,529
a few more things that I'd like to

2124
01:11:47,529 --> 01:11:48,723
get into in general on it that kind

2125
01:11:48,723 --> 01:11:50,418
of end with this point about

2126
01:11:51,033 --> 01:11:53,840
the the the... The, Kind of almost merging

2127
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,039
all the things we were discussing. You know,

2128
01:11:55,119 --> 01:11:56,480
and the idea that we are at a

2129
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,140
point where Americans are rapidly becoming aware

2130
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,239
that our government is just not what we

2131
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:03,774
think it is. You know? And I like

2132
01:12:03,774 --> 01:12:05,052
to play this clip. I... I think it's

2133
01:12:05,052 --> 01:12:06,351
very powerful between

2134
01:12:06,730 --> 01:12:07,470
Piers Morgan

2135
01:12:07,849 --> 01:12:10,487
and, it was blinking on his name Jeffrey

2136
01:12:10,646 --> 01:12:12,405
Sacks. And he, you know, he's been kinda

2137
01:12:12,405 --> 01:12:14,020
of famous for, you know, really kind of,

2138
01:12:14,579 --> 01:12:16,420
railing against the Us government and for a

2139
01:12:16,420 --> 01:12:18,100
policy for a while now. And then, you

2140
01:12:18,100 --> 01:12:19,940
know, kinda we can just talk about in

2141
01:12:19,940 --> 01:12:21,000
general the end

2142
01:12:21,872 --> 01:12:24,765
the election where this goes, and and whether

2143
01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:27,695
whether we think that this is something that's

2144
01:12:27,695 --> 01:12:30,008
going to rapidly change the perception of things

2145
01:12:30,008 --> 01:12:32,175
during that election, and and really whether we

2146
01:12:32,175 --> 01:12:32,653
think that the...

2147
01:12:33,529 --> 01:12:34,884
I I guess your thoughts on the election

2148
01:12:34,884 --> 01:12:36,078
in general. I think my audience knows well.

2149
01:12:36,317 --> 01:12:37,910
I don't think the vote even translates. But

2150
01:12:37,910 --> 01:12:39,424
we'll get there a second. Let let's play

2151
01:12:39,424 --> 01:12:41,827
this clip really quickly. And we can just

2152
01:12:41,827 --> 01:12:42,703
kinda talk. We don't have to play the

2153
01:12:42,703 --> 01:12:43,817
whole thing actually. Just once you get the

2154
01:12:43,817 --> 01:12:46,364
gist of what... What he's discussing. Seem very

2155
01:12:46,364 --> 01:12:47,637
reliant on accepting...

2156
01:12:48,368 --> 01:12:49,900
Putin's world view

2157
01:12:50,354 --> 01:12:53,157
rather than perhaps the stark reality

2158
01:12:53,689 --> 01:12:56,310
of the barb with which she's executed this

2159
01:12:56,310 --> 01:12:56,548
war.

2160
01:12:58,554 --> 01:13:00,875
Yeah. May maybe because I know too much

2161
01:13:00,875 --> 01:13:02,975
about the United States because

2162
01:13:03,354 --> 01:13:05,835
the first war in Europe after World War

2163
01:13:05,835 --> 01:13:08,886
2 was the Us bombing of Be for

2164
01:13:08,886 --> 01:13:11,224
78 days to change

2165
01:13:11,682 --> 01:13:12,182
borders

2166
01:13:12,641 --> 01:13:13,840
of a European state,

2167
01:13:14,493 --> 01:13:17,146
the idea was to break Serbia

2168
01:13:17,842 --> 01:13:18,900
to create

2169
01:13:20,075 --> 01:13:23,399
kosovo as an enclave and then to install

2170
01:13:23,679 --> 01:13:26,256
Bond, which is the largest

2171
01:13:26,635 --> 01:13:27,135
nato

2172
01:13:27,833 --> 01:13:30,411
base in the Balkans in the southwest

2173
01:13:30,883 --> 01:13:31,280
Balkans.

2174
01:13:31,835 --> 01:13:34,477
So the Us started this under Clinton

2175
01:13:35,088 --> 01:13:38,364
that we will break the borders. We will

2176
01:13:38,421 --> 01:13:38,921
illegally

2177
01:13:39,310 --> 01:13:42,590
bomb another country. We didn't have any Un

2178
01:13:42,590 --> 01:13:44,609
authority. This was a quote nato

2179
01:13:45,069 --> 01:13:47,243
mission to do that. Then I know the

2180
01:13:47,404 --> 01:13:51,100
United States went to war repeatedly illegally

2181
01:13:52,038 --> 01:13:52,538
in

2182
01:13:53,317 --> 01:13:55,336
what it did in Afghanistan,

2183
01:13:55,809 --> 01:13:57,716
and then what it did in Iraq,

2184
01:13:58,430 --> 01:14:00,815
and then what it did in Syria, which

2185
01:14:00,815 --> 01:14:01,315
was

2186
01:14:02,643 --> 01:14:02,881
the...

2187
01:14:03,453 --> 01:14:03,953
Obama

2188
01:14:04,488 --> 01:14:07,431
administration, especially Obama and Hillary, Clinton tasking the

2189
01:14:07,591 --> 01:14:08,091
Cia

2190
01:14:08,625 --> 01:14:10,057
to overthrow Bashar bashar,

2191
01:14:10,869 --> 01:14:11,590
A assad.

2192
01:14:12,310 --> 01:14:14,969
And then what it did with nato illegally

2193
01:14:15,349 --> 01:14:15,849
bombing

2194
01:14:16,389 --> 01:14:16,889
Libya

2195
01:14:17,189 --> 01:14:19,289
to topple more Ka,

2196
01:14:20,322 --> 01:14:22,015
and then what it did in

2197
01:14:22,391 --> 01:14:23,846
kiev in February

2198
01:14:24,221 --> 01:14:26,370
20 14. I happen to see some of

2199
01:14:26,370 --> 01:14:28,678
that with my own eyes, the Us,

2200
01:14:29,967 --> 01:14:31,421
Over through Yan

2201
01:14:32,194 --> 01:14:33,547
together with right wing,

2202
01:14:34,263 --> 01:14:34,763
Ukrainian

2203
01:14:35,457 --> 01:14:38,400
military forces, we over through a president.

2204
01:14:38,814 --> 01:14:40,805
And what's interesting by the way is we

2205
01:14:40,805 --> 01:14:43,615
overt through Yan covid, the day after

2206
01:14:44,630 --> 01:14:45,448
the European...

2207
01:14:46,238 --> 01:14:46,738
Union

2208
01:14:47,192 --> 01:14:50,134
representatives had reached an agreement with Yan

2209
01:14:51,327 --> 01:14:54,825
To have early elections, a government of national

2210
01:14:54,984 --> 01:14:55,484
Unity

2211
01:14:56,350 --> 01:14:57,565
and a stand

2212
01:14:58,177 --> 01:15:01,037
of both sides. That was agreed.

2213
01:15:01,752 --> 01:15:05,349
The next thing that happens is the opposition

2214
01:15:05,899 --> 01:15:09,176
quote unquote, says we don't agree. They stormed

2215
01:15:09,176 --> 01:15:10,295
the government buildings,

2216
01:15:11,253 --> 01:15:12,153
and they

2217
01:15:12,692 --> 01:15:13,192
deposed

2218
01:15:13,571 --> 01:15:13,890
Yan

2219
01:15:14,864 --> 01:15:17,495
And within ours, the United States says, yes.

2220
01:15:18,053 --> 01:15:20,127
We support the new government. It didn't say,

2221
01:15:20,365 --> 01:15:22,061
oh, we had an agreement. That's

2222
01:15:22,598 --> 01:15:23,395
unconstitutional what you did.

2223
01:15:24,448 --> 01:15:26,922
So we over through a government,

2224
01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,593
contrary to a promise that the European Union

2225
01:15:30,593 --> 01:15:31,790
had made, and by the way,

2226
01:15:33,085 --> 01:15:36,604
Russia, the United States and the Eu were

2227
01:15:36,604 --> 01:15:39,645
parties to that agreement, and the United States

2228
01:15:39,645 --> 01:15:40,944
an hour afterwards,

2229
01:15:41,658 --> 01:15:42,935
back to the coup.

2230
01:15:43,893 --> 01:15:46,606
Okay. So everyone's got a little bit to

2231
01:15:46,606 --> 01:15:48,841
answer for. In 20 15,

2232
01:15:49,890 --> 01:15:50,390
the

2233
01:15:50,843 --> 01:15:54,439
Russians did not say we want the dome

2234
01:15:54,654 --> 01:15:54,891
back.

2235
01:15:55,606 --> 01:15:58,408
They said peace should come through

2236
01:15:59,513 --> 01:16:00,490
negotiations. And

2237
01:16:01,661 --> 01:16:05,239
negotiations between the ethnic Russians in the east

2238
01:16:05,239 --> 01:16:06,774
of Ukraine and

2239
01:16:07,323 --> 01:16:07,823
this

2240
01:16:08,198 --> 01:16:10,131
new regime in Kiev

2241
01:16:10,904 --> 01:16:13,688
led to the Minsk 2 agreement.

2242
01:16:14,497 --> 01:16:17,192
The Mint 2 agreement was voted by the

2243
01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:18,961
Un security Council

2244
01:16:19,570 --> 01:16:20,070
unanimously.

2245
01:16:21,076 --> 01:16:21,393
It was...

2246
01:16:22,045 --> 01:16:24,524
Signed by the government of Ukraine.

2247
01:16:25,005 --> 01:16:26,145
It was guaranteed

2248
01:16:27,645 --> 01:16:28,145
explicitly

2249
01:16:28,765 --> 01:16:29,664
by Germany

2250
01:16:30,125 --> 01:16:30,925
and France,

2251
01:16:31,577 --> 01:16:33,717
And you know what? And it's been explained

2252
01:16:33,717 --> 01:16:35,145
to me in person,

2253
01:16:35,699 --> 01:16:38,553
it was laughed at inside the Us government.

2254
01:16:39,283 --> 01:16:41,591
This is after the Un security Council,

2255
01:16:42,149 --> 01:16:42,649
unanimously

2256
01:16:43,104 --> 01:16:45,651
accepted it. The Ukrainian said, we don't wanna

2257
01:16:45,651 --> 01:16:46,765
to give autonomy.

2258
01:16:47,099 --> 01:16:48,765
To the region. Oh, but that's part of

2259
01:16:48,765 --> 01:16:51,465
the treaty. The Us told them, don't worry

2260
01:16:51,465 --> 01:16:51,782
about it.

2261
01:16:52,575 --> 01:16:53,631
Angela Merkel

2262
01:16:54,163 --> 01:16:55,854
explained the in d z,

2263
01:16:56,401 --> 01:16:57,855
in a notorious

2264
01:16:58,230 --> 01:16:58,389
interview,

2265
01:16:59,422 --> 01:16:59,899
after,

2266
01:17:00,377 --> 01:17:01,989
the 20 22

2267
01:17:02,364 --> 01:17:03,478
escalation, she said, oh,

2268
01:17:04,209 --> 01:17:06,284
you know, we knew that Min 2 was

2269
01:17:06,284 --> 01:17:07,104
just a

2270
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,993
a holding pattern to give you Ukraine time

2271
01:17:10,993 --> 01:17:12,510
to build its strength. No.

2272
01:17:13,324 --> 01:17:16,784
Min 2 was a Un security council unanimously

2273
01:17:17,164 --> 01:17:18,224
adopted treaty

2274
01:17:19,164 --> 01:17:21,340
that was supposed to end the war. So

2275
01:17:21,340 --> 01:17:23,817
when it comes to whose trustworthy, who to

2276
01:17:23,817 --> 01:17:24,776
believe and so forth.

2277
01:17:25,495 --> 01:17:27,573
I guess my problem peers is I know

2278
01:17:27,573 --> 01:17:28,851
the United States government.

2279
01:17:29,411 --> 01:17:30,449
I know it very well.

2280
01:17:31,103 --> 01:17:33,484
I don't trust them for a moment. I

2281
01:17:33,484 --> 01:17:34,858
want these 2 sides

2282
01:17:35,469 --> 01:17:37,692
actually to sit down in front of the

2283
01:17:37,692 --> 01:17:38,327
whole world.

2284
01:17:38,978 --> 01:17:40,888
And say these are the terms, then the

2285
01:17:40,888 --> 01:17:43,991
world can judge because we could get on

2286
01:17:43,991 --> 01:17:47,356
paper clearly for both sides of the world

2287
01:17:48,304 --> 01:17:50,776
We're not gonna overthrow governments anymore. The United

2288
01:17:50,935 --> 01:17:53,328
States needs to say. We accept this agreement.

2289
01:17:53,488 --> 01:17:55,720
The United States needs to say. Russia needs

2290
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,364
to say we're not stepping 1 foot further

2291
01:17:58,364 --> 01:17:59,658
than whatever the boundary

2292
01:18:00,270 --> 01:18:01,644
is actually reached

2293
01:18:02,176 --> 01:18:05,113
and nato not going to enlarge, and let's

2294
01:18:05,113 --> 01:18:06,914
put it for the whole world to see

2295
01:18:07,034 --> 01:18:09,132
You know, once in a while, treaties actually

2296
01:18:09,511 --> 01:18:09,831
hold.

2297
01:18:12,627 --> 01:18:14,385
Very interesting. I mean, I... It's such a...

2298
01:18:15,279 --> 01:18:17,751
It's... I think such AAA... An a very

2299
01:18:17,751 --> 01:18:20,404
uncomfortable conversation for a lot of Americans. Because

2300
01:18:20,463 --> 01:18:22,797
it's... It goes so it... That's not even

2301
01:18:23,015 --> 01:18:24,690
obviously, there's a lot before that as well.

2302
01:18:25,024 --> 01:18:26,302
And so it's, like where people are coming

2303
01:18:26,302 --> 01:18:28,619
to terms with this reality that that this

2304
01:18:28,619 --> 01:18:30,297
is just... We... We've been told to fairy

2305
01:18:30,297 --> 01:18:31,895
tale about what we've always been fighting for

2306
01:18:31,895 --> 01:18:33,741
and we're doing. I simply wrote Americans need

2307
01:18:33,741 --> 01:18:34,854
to come to terms with the reality of

2308
01:18:34,854 --> 01:18:37,319
the Us government, not the country, not the

2309
01:18:37,319 --> 01:18:39,385
people, but the Us government is not what

2310
01:18:39,385 --> 01:18:41,314
we pretend it is, not for a long

2311
01:18:41,314 --> 01:18:43,234
time now. And you could even argue maybe

2312
01:18:43,234 --> 01:18:44,914
not ever. I don't agree with that, but

2313
01:18:44,914 --> 01:18:46,755
there's some conversation to be had about whether

2314
01:18:46,755 --> 01:18:47,954
we were told the truth in that regard.

2315
01:18:48,449 --> 01:18:49,810
I said, if we cannot accept that fact

2316
01:18:49,810 --> 01:18:51,170
that the rest of the world learned a

2317
01:18:51,170 --> 01:18:52,689
lot the hard way a long time ago

2318
01:18:52,689 --> 01:18:54,609
or if we can accept that fact change

2319
01:18:54,609 --> 01:18:55,170
is possible.

2320
01:18:55,664 --> 01:18:56,782
And so 1 of your thoughts on that

2321
01:18:56,782 --> 01:18:58,219
in general, You know? I mean, I think

2322
01:18:58,219 --> 01:19:00,853
that this has potential to be a an

2323
01:19:00,853 --> 01:19:02,769
important moment in history for us to change,

2324
01:19:03,088 --> 01:19:04,306
talking about your accountability.

2325
01:19:04,858 --> 01:19:06,762
The the the the memorandum or the letter

2326
01:19:06,762 --> 01:19:08,587
you put out? Mh. In conjunction with this

2327
01:19:08,587 --> 01:19:10,491
rapid kind of awareness of these things. So

2328
01:19:10,491 --> 01:19:11,681
what's your thoughts on all that? And and

2329
01:19:11,681 --> 01:19:12,634
do you agree with what he was saying?

2330
01:19:13,284 --> 01:19:14,722
Yeah. So let me just your point where

2331
01:19:14,722 --> 01:19:16,560
you said, you know, this is this is

2332
01:19:16,560 --> 01:19:19,037
an uncomfortable conversation that Americans might be hearing.

2333
01:19:19,916 --> 01:19:20,416
And

2334
01:19:21,529 --> 01:19:23,287
Unfortunately, and you know, it's it's it's human

2335
01:19:23,287 --> 01:19:24,485
nature, but a lot of times,

2336
01:19:25,844 --> 01:19:27,282
we are quick to take the path of

2337
01:19:27,282 --> 01:19:28,881
least resistance. Even when it comes to our

2338
01:19:28,881 --> 01:19:29,280
belief system.

2339
01:19:30,171 --> 01:19:32,634
It's just easier to believe things that are

2340
01:19:32,634 --> 01:19:34,858
easy to believe or are convenient to believe.

2341
01:19:35,095 --> 01:19:36,764
Right. And if it requires that we kind

2342
01:19:36,764 --> 01:19:37,797
of reconfigure,

2343
01:19:38,288 --> 01:19:40,919
our entire world in order to extended beliefs.

2344
01:19:41,556 --> 01:19:43,549
We are... We're we're hesitant to do that.

2345
01:19:43,708 --> 01:19:45,462
You know, most most people are. And and

2346
01:19:45,462 --> 01:19:46,154
that's why

2347
01:19:46,593 --> 01:19:47,948
Unfortunately, we see a lot of people that

2348
01:19:47,948 --> 01:19:48,448
just

2349
01:19:48,824 --> 01:19:51,056
passively have their worldview given to them rather

2350
01:19:51,056 --> 01:19:52,491
than kind of, you know, actively going out

2351
01:19:52,491 --> 01:19:54,086
and figuring out what they believe,

2352
01:19:54,658 --> 01:19:56,647
parsing through competing narratives to try and figure

2353
01:19:56,647 --> 01:19:57,841
out what they think the actual truth is.

2354
01:19:57,999 --> 01:19:58,158
Mh.

2355
01:19:59,670 --> 01:20:00,863
Specific to what is stated,

2356
01:20:02,470 --> 01:20:04,962
if we use this situations as an example

2357
01:20:05,178 --> 01:20:06,214
because there are plenty of others that are

2358
01:20:06,214 --> 01:20:07,250
occurring in the world right now,

2359
01:20:08,205 --> 01:20:10,059
we've got to understand that

2360
01:20:11,166 --> 01:20:15,060
there are complexities in history that oftentimes are

2361
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:17,046
reduced down to a 1 sided narrative and

2362
01:20:17,046 --> 01:20:18,023
that is used for

2363
01:20:18,492 --> 01:20:20,399
specific purposes, and this is a great example

2364
01:20:20,399 --> 01:20:21,989
of, hey, there's a lot more to this.

2365
01:20:22,307 --> 01:20:23,658
And if you look at the whole story,

2366
01:20:24,055 --> 01:20:25,248
there are a lot of things that United

2367
01:20:25,487 --> 01:20:26,837
States has done over time,

2368
01:20:27,569 --> 01:20:29,409
that were exceptionally shady,

2369
01:20:29,970 --> 01:20:32,550
and these happened long before,

2370
01:20:32,850 --> 01:20:34,949
you know, the early 20 22

2371
01:20:35,170 --> 01:20:37,341
invasion by Russia of Right. Ukraine. Right. You

2372
01:20:37,341 --> 01:20:39,720
know? And it doesn't necessarily mean that people...

2373
01:20:40,355 --> 01:20:41,466
And again, this is where we get into

2374
01:20:41,466 --> 01:20:44,481
these just these unnecessary, you know, dialect patterns

2375
01:20:44,481 --> 01:20:44,877
of thinking.

2376
01:20:45,609 --> 01:20:48,239
You don't have to be. You don't necessarily

2377
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:50,174
have to be either

2378
01:20:50,631 --> 01:20:52,783
prob putin or anti putin. I mean, you

2379
01:20:52,783 --> 01:20:53,761
can take a more

2380
01:20:54,314 --> 01:20:55,134
nuanced to

2381
01:20:55,592 --> 01:20:58,229
approach to that. And just understand this is

2382
01:20:58,229 --> 01:21:01,845
a complex situation. There are there are real

2383
01:21:02,636 --> 01:21:04,542
human beings. Mh. You know, just like you

2384
01:21:04,542 --> 01:21:05,494
and me, they may just be from a

2385
01:21:05,494 --> 01:21:06,209
different part of the world,

2386
01:21:07,082 --> 01:21:09,305
whose lives are being up ended by what's

2387
01:21:09,305 --> 01:21:10,972
going on, and oh, by the way,

2388
01:21:12,103 --> 01:21:15,535
the United States has a hand in what

2389
01:21:15,535 --> 01:21:18,090
is unfolding now? Absolutely. Well, just your what

2390
01:21:18,090 --> 01:21:19,447
you said there, it's important that at the

2391
01:21:19,447 --> 01:21:21,135
end of the day, by saying that the

2392
01:21:21,373 --> 01:21:21,873
Us

2393
01:21:22,408 --> 01:21:22,908
deliberately

2394
01:21:23,442 --> 01:21:25,193
manufactured this war is not to say Putin

2395
01:21:25,193 --> 01:21:27,555
good guy. Like this binary view we have

2396
01:21:27,755 --> 01:21:29,914
is so infuriating, but there's obviously that's why

2397
01:21:29,914 --> 01:21:31,755
that's there. You know, to kind of counter

2398
01:21:31,755 --> 01:21:33,435
balance and stop you from seeing it. You

2399
01:21:33,435 --> 01:21:35,195
know? And I think it's obvious to see

2400
01:21:35,195 --> 01:21:37,289
that there been lied about pretty much every

2401
01:21:37,289 --> 01:21:39,050
war in my lifetime, You know, and probably

2402
01:21:39,050 --> 01:21:41,550
long before that. And I... This is uncomfortable

2403
01:21:41,689 --> 01:21:43,530
because that... It... What it does, it goes

2404
01:21:43,530 --> 01:21:45,301
back to our earlier conversation, it makes you

2405
01:21:45,301 --> 01:21:46,888
then go hope so the country is not

2406
01:21:46,888 --> 01:21:48,953
good. You know, in that that process. But

2407
01:21:48,953 --> 01:21:50,859
again, we're not talking about the country. We're

2408
01:21:50,859 --> 01:21:52,605
talking about the government. Right? That's... This is

2409
01:21:52,605 --> 01:21:54,368
what people need to come down to. And

2410
01:21:54,368 --> 01:21:56,119
so to to kind of end in general,

2411
01:21:56,279 --> 01:21:58,746
I think the last conversation point here, that

2412
01:21:58,746 --> 01:22:00,975
coming into this election cycle, I think these

2413
01:22:00,975 --> 01:22:02,010
are the things that people need to start...

2414
01:22:02,263 --> 01:22:04,492
Thinking about discussing. You know, these larger points

2415
01:22:04,492 --> 01:22:06,402
and not just the same old wedge issues

2416
01:22:06,402 --> 01:22:07,435
they throw out to you to get you

2417
01:22:07,435 --> 01:22:09,448
talking about sure, divide and conquer topics

2418
01:22:09,758 --> 01:22:10,787
I'll show a couple more of your tweets

2419
01:22:10,787 --> 01:22:11,897
really quickly. You said this,

2420
01:22:12,769 --> 01:22:13,481
in regard to...

2421
01:22:14,670 --> 01:22:16,572
It's... What's a pro political tweet about Trump.

2422
01:22:17,064 --> 01:22:18,664
You said, let's set aside the important issues

2423
01:22:18,664 --> 01:22:21,545
of election integrity, debate integrity and candidate integrity

2424
01:22:21,545 --> 01:22:24,025
for a moment and thus assume the upcoming

2425
01:22:24,025 --> 01:22:25,385
presidential debate will be authentic. Alright I love

2426
01:22:25,385 --> 01:22:26,757
that. Because I'm on the same page. I

2427
01:22:26,757 --> 01:22:28,353
don't think it's even remotely. Right Alright. Yeah.

2428
01:22:28,512 --> 01:22:29,629
I don't can concede any of those points.

2429
01:22:29,788 --> 01:22:31,465
So let's just set those aside. Yeah. Yeah.

2430
01:22:31,703 --> 01:22:34,192
Yeah. The selection coming up. But, you've said,

2431
01:22:34,271 --> 01:22:36,027
as I highlighted, will any of the candidates

2432
01:22:36,027 --> 01:22:36,984
for for the president,

2433
01:22:37,701 --> 01:22:39,775
and, you know, that's commander in Chief demonstrate

2434
01:22:39,775 --> 01:22:42,247
a true understanding of the problems in in

2435
01:22:42,247 --> 01:22:44,412
of the Department defense? Highlighting that... I don't

2436
01:22:44,412 --> 01:22:45,708
think they're even to address

2437
01:22:46,083 --> 01:22:47,435
like the video we just saw. Or the

2438
01:22:47,435 --> 01:22:49,345
reality of where we're coming from, especially the

2439
01:22:49,345 --> 01:22:51,572
overlaps of foreign policy in Israel large and

2440
01:22:51,572 --> 01:22:53,898
so on, You also highlight the idea of

2441
01:22:53,898 --> 01:22:56,447
of somebody standing up in promotion that Donald

2442
01:22:56,606 --> 01:22:58,678
Trump arguing that they're gonna suspend the rid

2443
01:22:58,678 --> 01:22:59,475
of He corpus.

2444
01:23:00,049 --> 01:23:01,648
And this... So over overlapping all of this

2445
01:23:01,648 --> 01:23:03,166
and the idea that we're seeing that the...

2446
01:23:03,645 --> 01:23:04,844
Not just the left, not just the right,

2447
01:23:04,924 --> 01:23:06,222
you know, the the the government

2448
01:23:06,681 --> 01:23:08,520
is acting in a lot of ways dishonest.

2449
01:23:08,774 --> 01:23:10,365
We see now. We have people stepping in

2450
01:23:10,365 --> 01:23:12,458
from the pair... The 2 party illusion perspective

2451
01:23:12,834 --> 01:23:14,267
it's coming in to say... And this is

2452
01:23:14,267 --> 01:23:15,699
the whole thing or or it's q add

2453
01:23:15,699 --> 01:23:18,262
on or whatever else. Arguing that, well, we're

2454
01:23:18,262 --> 01:23:19,935
the good guys. It's sort of like a

2455
01:23:19,935 --> 01:23:21,925
micro chasm of the larger way that they

2456
01:23:21,925 --> 01:23:24,552
duck for policy. So we'll just suspend things

2457
01:23:24,552 --> 01:23:26,559
that are sacred in order because we're gonna

2458
01:23:26,559 --> 01:23:28,073
go after the bad guys. But is that

2459
01:23:28,073 --> 01:23:29,985
really the reality of that situation, You know?

2460
01:23:30,304 --> 01:23:31,340
And then, you know, just kind of just

2461
01:23:31,340 --> 01:23:33,429
end on the idea of As you highlighted,

2462
01:23:33,590 --> 01:23:35,510
complex cy don't typically consist of a single

2463
01:23:35,510 --> 01:23:38,789
narrative. They involve both primary negative and counter

2464
01:23:38,789 --> 01:23:40,390
narrative. And as in my opinion you're hired

2465
01:23:40,390 --> 01:23:42,723
the 2 party illusion there. So all those

2466
01:23:42,723 --> 01:23:43,921
points to say at the end, we're talking

2467
01:23:43,921 --> 01:23:45,839
about an upcoming election that we can see

2468
01:23:45,839 --> 01:23:47,596
that our government is not what we are

2469
01:23:47,596 --> 01:23:49,685
always told it was. And that I see

2470
01:23:49,685 --> 01:23:51,752
that already happening within the 2 party illusion

2471
01:23:51,752 --> 01:23:54,060
dynamics. So, you know, you can go after

2472
01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:55,332
any of those points you want. The point

2473
01:23:55,332 --> 01:23:56,844
is just where you see this going with.

2474
01:23:57,003 --> 01:23:58,612
You look at. Let me tackle 1 of

2475
01:23:58,612 --> 01:24:00,526
those that I think is incredibly important, And

2476
01:24:00,526 --> 01:24:01,265
then I

2477
01:24:01,643 --> 01:24:03,738
I thought was actually quite disgusting. And that's

2478
01:24:04,514 --> 01:24:06,907
a guy who basically like, I can't remember

2479
01:24:06,907 --> 01:24:07,407
the

2480
01:24:07,720 --> 01:24:09,399
his name, but he's... He's a candidate. You

2481
01:24:09,399 --> 01:24:11,420
know, he's running for office. And he basically

2482
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:11,800
said,

2483
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,520
I'm a christian and therefore it's okay if

2484
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:16,840
we,

2485
01:24:17,572 --> 01:24:19,162
suspend the rid of H corpus. Mh.

2486
01:24:19,719 --> 01:24:22,104
And and I, I just... As someone who

2487
01:24:22,104 --> 01:24:24,411
was at Christian, you know, IIII

2488
01:24:24,411 --> 01:24:26,494
thought that was ridiculous, But what I also

2489
01:24:26,494 --> 01:24:26,972
found

2490
01:24:27,847 --> 01:24:29,302
extremely disheartening is

2491
01:24:29,678 --> 01:24:32,942
that very ridiculous statement. That that dangerous statement

2492
01:24:32,942 --> 01:24:35,170
was met with Thunder applause.

2493
01:24:35,742 --> 01:24:37,890
From those who were there. Those are going

2494
01:24:37,890 --> 01:24:39,878
after the bad guys. Right? That's absolutely. That's

2495
01:24:39,878 --> 01:24:41,787
and I thought and I thought that guy...

2496
01:24:41,947 --> 01:24:44,275
Like, A statement like that because this is

2497
01:24:44,275 --> 01:24:45,792
in a in a prepared speech. I mean,

2498
01:24:45,872 --> 01:24:46,989
this is not something that you just stated

2499
01:24:46,989 --> 01:24:48,586
off the cuff, Re could come back later

2500
01:24:48,586 --> 01:24:49,943
and say, hey, I kinda miss mistake, like

2501
01:24:50,103 --> 01:24:52,191
I was... I wasn't clearly thinking. Now this

2502
01:24:52,191 --> 01:24:52,985
is in a prepared speech.

2503
01:24:53,700 --> 01:24:56,084
And a state... Like, a single statement like

2504
01:24:56,084 --> 01:24:58,094
that, In my mind, should sync someone's

2505
01:24:58,786 --> 01:25:01,028
do candidacy. He he should've have been... Laughed

2506
01:25:01,028 --> 01:25:03,099
off the stage. Right, and and and and

2507
01:25:03,099 --> 01:25:04,931
escorted it out in shame. Because what he's

2508
01:25:04,931 --> 01:25:05,489
saying is,

2509
01:25:06,286 --> 01:25:07,640
because I'm a good guy and I'm right,

2510
01:25:07,895 --> 01:25:08,714
And maybe

2511
01:25:09,093 --> 01:25:10,851
maybe there are people who even say, hey,

2512
01:25:10,931 --> 01:25:12,609
listen. I I might even kind of agree

2513
01:25:12,609 --> 01:25:14,608
with some of your ideas. Mh. But you're

2514
01:25:14,608 --> 01:25:15,587
talking about

2515
01:25:16,126 --> 01:25:17,505
suspending other people's

2516
01:25:17,899 --> 01:25:19,888
rights. Right. You know, that are that are

2517
01:25:19,888 --> 01:25:21,479
protected by the constitution. So I thought that

2518
01:25:21,479 --> 01:25:23,491
was incredibly dangerous. And

2519
01:25:24,026 --> 01:25:25,537
the reason I chose to highlight and something

2520
01:25:25,537 --> 01:25:26,913
that I posted is because

2521
01:25:28,018 --> 01:25:30,641
we see people like that, almost act in

2522
01:25:30,641 --> 01:25:32,866
a in a tribal way. Mh. And so

2523
01:25:32,866 --> 01:25:34,218
this goes back also to kinda what I

2524
01:25:34,218 --> 01:25:36,069
was saying with complex Si ups. So

2525
01:25:36,458 --> 01:25:38,292
It's not a complex sign up. It's not

2526
01:25:38,292 --> 01:25:39,728
just about. I'm gonna give you this narrative,

2527
01:25:39,807 --> 01:25:41,242
and I'm gonna think possible to get you

2528
01:25:41,242 --> 01:25:44,033
to believe it. It's it it's much deeper

2529
01:25:44,033 --> 01:25:44,931
than that. It's

2530
01:25:45,323 --> 01:25:46,676
I'm gonna give you this narrative, and a

2531
01:25:46,676 --> 01:25:48,345
lot of people are gonna believe it. But

2532
01:25:48,345 --> 01:25:50,176
there are people who are a little bit

2533
01:25:50,176 --> 01:25:51,686
more sophisticated in their thinking.

2534
01:25:52,259 --> 01:25:54,404
They going to recognize that that is an

2535
01:25:54,404 --> 01:25:55,119
untrue narrative,

2536
01:25:55,676 --> 01:25:57,981
and then they're going to move to something

2537
01:25:57,981 --> 01:26:00,301
else. And when they do, I am going

2538
01:26:00,301 --> 01:26:02,234
to be waiting with an alternative

2539
01:26:02,768 --> 01:26:04,837
narrative that will catch a lot of those

2540
01:26:04,837 --> 01:26:07,224
people. You know? Right Because, yep, they're smart

2541
01:26:07,224 --> 01:26:08,737
enough and they're sophisticated enough and they're thinking,

2542
01:26:09,149 --> 01:26:11,067
That they will recognize the initial the primary

2543
01:26:11,067 --> 01:26:12,665
narrative. Mh. But then they'll fall for the

2544
01:26:12,665 --> 01:26:14,263
counter narrative. And while they fall for the

2545
01:26:14,263 --> 01:26:16,181
counter narrative, they will be laughing at those

2546
01:26:16,181 --> 01:26:18,193
who've fell for the primary narrative. And I

2547
01:26:18,193 --> 01:26:19,307
think that this is a...

2548
01:26:20,822 --> 01:26:23,631
This is is a tactic that is used

2549
01:26:24,327 --> 01:26:26,238
all the time. I mean, we see this

2550
01:26:26,238 --> 01:26:28,250
all the time. And What I tell people

2551
01:26:28,250 --> 01:26:28,969
is listen.

2552
01:26:30,250 --> 01:26:32,810
When you were presented with a person, it

2553
01:26:32,810 --> 01:26:34,902
could be a political candidate or whomever. When

2554
01:26:34,902 --> 01:26:36,726
you're presented with a person or you were

2555
01:26:36,726 --> 01:26:38,869
presented with an event or you presented with

2556
01:26:38,869 --> 01:26:41,647
a political party or an idea or whatever

2557
01:26:41,647 --> 01:26:42,679
or an narrative. Mh.

2558
01:26:43,408 --> 01:26:45,653
You don't have to feel obligated to either

2559
01:26:45,787 --> 01:26:48,326
accept or reject that initially. Right? You can

2560
01:26:48,326 --> 01:26:48,643
pause.

2561
01:26:49,278 --> 01:26:51,385
You can say, hey, This is a complex

2562
01:26:51,604 --> 01:26:53,685
situation. I don't necessarily know. It's very nuanced.

2563
01:26:54,005 --> 01:26:54,324
Mh.

2564
01:26:54,965 --> 01:26:57,465
Let me let me... What other cor?

2565
01:26:58,495 --> 01:27:00,481
Information, either confirms or denies this or whatever,

2566
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,261
but but just pause because there are very

2567
01:27:03,261 --> 01:27:04,930
smart people, you know, court turner has done

2568
01:27:04,930 --> 01:27:05,962
a lot of great work with, like,

2569
01:27:06,852 --> 01:27:09,079
organizations like, like the Institute. You know? Right.

2570
01:27:09,318 --> 01:27:10,671
And I... I've said to people kind of

2571
01:27:10,671 --> 01:27:12,579
joking before that if you've never heard of

2572
01:27:12,579 --> 01:27:13,949
that. If you don't know have a stock

2573
01:27:13,949 --> 01:27:15,707
just to understand that they know you. But

2574
01:27:15,707 --> 01:27:18,423
right. But there are these these these these

2575
01:27:18,423 --> 01:27:21,633
social engineers. Mh. And they know. To I

2576
01:27:21,633 --> 01:27:22,908
mean, they they have just a ton of

2577
01:27:22,908 --> 01:27:24,342
data. Right? I mean they just they know

2578
01:27:24,342 --> 01:27:25,378
how to put something out there to the

2579
01:27:25,378 --> 01:27:27,689
public. They know that narrative will capture a

2580
01:27:27,689 --> 01:27:29,617
certain percentage of the public. But then they

2581
01:27:29,617 --> 01:27:31,452
know that a certain percentage of the public

2582
01:27:31,452 --> 01:27:31,952
will

2583
01:27:32,329 --> 01:27:34,244
gravitate elsewhere, and they're gonna be ready to

2584
01:27:34,244 --> 01:27:36,653
catch those in in a second net. Hundred

2585
01:27:36,653 --> 01:27:37,928
percent. And I, you know, hear that ladies

2586
01:27:37,928 --> 01:27:39,444
and gentlemen, you're allowed to say I don't

2587
01:27:39,444 --> 01:27:40,959
know and leaf thing they are. Right? Like,

2588
01:27:41,038 --> 01:27:43,112
that's not always screaming. Is it we're we're

2589
01:27:43,112 --> 01:27:45,479
driven to choose these binary, you know, multi

2590
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,600
choice even, but choose at a time when

2591
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:49,520
maybe, you know, you're only being given half

2592
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,119
the information. You know? Yeah. Go ahead You

2593
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:52,720
guys... Yeah. I was gonna say... So then

2594
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:54,654
here's what happens. Right? Well So you're caught

2595
01:27:54,654 --> 01:27:56,172
in 1 of those 2 nets. And, I

2596
01:27:56,172 --> 01:27:57,371
mean, in theory, there could be a third

2597
01:27:57,371 --> 01:27:58,889
net. I mean, of course, it can get

2598
01:27:58,889 --> 01:28:00,347
very, very complex. But

2599
01:28:00,886 --> 01:28:03,779
if you're on team a, because you've decided

2600
01:28:03,779 --> 01:28:06,655
that whatever this narrative is you you buy

2601
01:28:06,655 --> 01:28:08,014
into it. Now you're on Teammate.

2602
01:28:08,573 --> 01:28:11,131
If you reject it, you're in rapid opposition

2603
01:28:11,131 --> 01:28:12,822
to it. Now you're on Team B. If

2604
01:28:12,822 --> 01:28:13,856
you are on Team a,

2605
01:28:14,731 --> 01:28:15,550
you must

2606
01:28:16,004 --> 01:28:16,504
oppose

2607
01:28:16,958 --> 01:28:19,758
and perhaps even dislike or to test or

2608
01:28:19,758 --> 01:28:21,746
even hate everybody who's on Team b. Mh.

2609
01:28:21,985 --> 01:28:23,257
And vice versa. And I I know I'm

2610
01:28:23,257 --> 01:28:25,564
being overly simplistic here. But I think people

2611
01:28:25,564 --> 01:28:28,085
can see that that that is that... Or

2612
01:28:28,283 --> 01:28:31,006
type of instrumentation is used that

2613
01:28:31,378 --> 01:28:35,030
instrumentation by these narrative engineers is used very

2614
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:37,667
frequently to get people to divide. So 30

2615
01:28:37,667 --> 01:28:39,662
percent. If if, you know, if people don't

2616
01:28:39,662 --> 01:28:41,337
necessarily understand or know what is what is

2617
01:28:41,337 --> 01:28:42,773
meant by the term you know, like, like,

2618
01:28:42,931 --> 01:28:45,404
dialect or dialect of proposition. Again, you can

2619
01:28:45,404 --> 01:28:46,521
just kinda think of it as, like,

2620
01:28:47,332 --> 01:28:49,401
like a strategy of tension or divide and

2621
01:28:49,401 --> 01:28:52,185
conquer. I mean, even that is is a

2622
01:28:52,185 --> 01:28:53,855
is a way to kinda understand what's going

2623
01:28:53,855 --> 01:28:55,225
on it as well. Yeah. I mean, I

2624
01:28:55,384 --> 01:28:56,818
I actually don't think it's over simplistic. I

2625
01:28:56,818 --> 01:28:58,411
mean, here's a great example that I've used

2626
01:28:58,411 --> 01:29:00,323
many times is you have...

2627
01:29:00,961 --> 01:29:02,967
As at at I forget the exact time

2628
01:29:02,967 --> 01:29:04,720
to started, but it both kind of separate

2629
01:29:04,720 --> 01:29:05,916
in a little way, but we had at

2630
01:29:05,916 --> 01:29:07,908
the same time we saw Q on. Then

2631
01:29:07,908 --> 01:29:09,914
we saw Russia gate. Mh. Right? And we

2632
01:29:09,914 --> 01:29:11,986
saw these from different sides of the paradigm,

2633
01:29:12,145 --> 01:29:13,658
which I think is an illusion. Right? It's

2634
01:29:13,658 --> 01:29:15,810
all your government. And I think what this

2635
01:29:15,810 --> 01:29:18,613
showed me is the ultimately each Side of

2636
01:29:18,613 --> 01:29:19,113
this

2637
01:29:19,572 --> 01:29:21,885
were convincing people that it was, no, No.

2638
01:29:22,125 --> 01:29:23,481
The government's on your side, but from a

2639
01:29:23,481 --> 01:29:25,476
different side of it. And and and there's

2640
01:29:25,476 --> 01:29:27,404
insiders that are on your side by and

2641
01:29:27,404 --> 01:29:29,552
the bad ones inside. So just trust them.

2642
01:29:29,871 --> 01:29:31,224
Right? And so from the same thing from

2643
01:29:31,303 --> 01:29:32,656
Russia gate, it was though we're weeding out

2644
01:29:32,656 --> 01:29:33,984
the ones that are influenced by the fully

2645
01:29:34,262 --> 01:29:35,534
empower, but we're are the good ones trying

2646
01:29:35,534 --> 01:29:37,045
to show you the bad ones. So it's

2647
01:29:37,045 --> 01:29:39,350
a it's different, but the same ultimate point

2648
01:29:39,350 --> 01:29:41,869
was trust, the government, the good ones for

2649
01:29:41,989 --> 01:29:43,505
And so you had... I saw this as

2650
01:29:43,505 --> 01:29:45,898
sort of, like this. It drove them around

2651
01:29:45,898 --> 01:29:47,891
to connect behind the 2 party paradigm. Like,

2652
01:29:48,051 --> 01:29:49,487
they thought they were so extreme around, but

2653
01:29:49,487 --> 01:29:51,854
they ended up basically coming the same conclusion

2654
01:29:52,212 --> 01:29:53,958
thinking they were pointing at different things. And

2655
01:29:53,958 --> 01:29:55,704
that is exactly the point. And I think

2656
01:29:55,704 --> 01:29:57,371
that so they they they lay out this

2657
01:29:57,371 --> 01:29:59,435
trap and then you reflex go to the

2658
01:29:59,435 --> 01:30:01,198
other side it. And I think that's so...

2659
01:30:01,437 --> 01:30:03,671
I mean, maybe everything we're dealing with. You

2660
01:30:03,671 --> 01:30:05,106
know? And I think that's very important to

2661
01:30:05,106 --> 01:30:07,339
think about. Whether it's about just deciding that

2662
01:30:07,419 --> 01:30:08,774
I'm not gonna make a decision right now.

2663
01:30:09,014 --> 01:30:10,131
I don't think I have all the information.

2664
01:30:10,703 --> 01:30:12,533
And or, you know, or any number of

2665
01:30:12,533 --> 01:30:15,081
other things choosing to just pick the options

2666
01:30:15,081 --> 01:30:16,831
in front of you or is the easiest

2667
01:30:16,831 --> 01:30:18,343
way to get manipulated. And I think that

2668
01:30:18,343 --> 01:30:21,143
brings us to the election point is we're

2669
01:30:21,143 --> 01:30:22,970
in a position where we're going, oh, here

2670
01:30:22,970 --> 01:30:25,037
are the left. Right? Candidates. You get 1

2671
01:30:25,037 --> 01:30:26,469
or 2 choices. Well, maybe you have a

2672
01:30:26,469 --> 01:30:27,661
third thrown in there. But they're all kind

2673
01:30:27,661 --> 01:30:29,980
of in the same game. Mh. And we

2674
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:31,485
need to recognize that there's always a lot

2675
01:30:31,485 --> 01:30:32,832
more people that run for president. There's a

2676
01:30:32,832 --> 01:30:34,259
lot of different choice out there or maybe

2677
01:30:34,259 --> 01:30:36,160
that your vote doesn't even actually translate to

2678
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:38,319
the outcome. And yet we all go through

2679
01:30:38,319 --> 01:30:39,591
this cycle. I mean, some of us do.

2680
01:30:39,828 --> 01:30:41,736
I think I don't. But you speak to

2681
01:30:41,736 --> 01:30:43,564
if you want. It's a it's a fantastic

2682
01:30:43,564 --> 01:30:43,881
question.

2683
01:30:44,373 --> 01:30:45,728
And and I know it's 1 that people

2684
01:30:45,728 --> 01:30:48,516
get emotionally attached to. Mh. And and there's

2685
01:30:48,516 --> 01:30:50,270
AAA lot of people in the military or

2686
01:30:50,270 --> 01:30:51,225
the veteran community,

2687
01:30:51,719 --> 01:30:53,797
you know, truly believe that they they fought

2688
01:30:53,797 --> 01:30:55,395
for the rights that we have. And if

2689
01:30:55,395 --> 01:30:57,792
you don't elect then you are, to some

2690
01:30:57,792 --> 01:30:59,551
degree you are attacking the san entity of

2691
01:30:59,551 --> 01:31:00,110
that process.

2692
01:31:00,684 --> 01:31:02,457
And and I don't think that's an entirely

2693
01:31:02,594 --> 01:31:03,628
invalid position. Mh.

2694
01:31:05,061 --> 01:31:05,720
I think

2695
01:31:06,176 --> 01:31:07,448
we should look at that there with a

2696
01:31:07,448 --> 01:31:08,563
little bit more nuance, though,

2697
01:31:09,279 --> 01:31:10,018
which is

2698
01:31:11,125 --> 01:31:13,829
Personally, I don't feel that anybody is is

2699
01:31:13,829 --> 01:31:17,170
ob... Or should feel obligated to play in

2700
01:31:17,170 --> 01:31:19,494
a game that is completely rigged. Okay. I

2701
01:31:19,494 --> 01:31:20,853
don't think you should feel obligated to do

2702
01:31:20,853 --> 01:31:23,330
that. Now if you believe that the game

2703
01:31:23,330 --> 01:31:23,969
is completely rigged,

2704
01:31:24,769 --> 01:31:27,565
and you still believe that you you maybe

2705
01:31:27,565 --> 01:31:29,840
have a duty to... Still participate

2706
01:31:30,460 --> 01:31:32,780
in that electoral process. I can understand that.

2707
01:31:32,939 --> 01:31:34,800
Mh. But I also think

2708
01:31:36,474 --> 01:31:39,215
I also think that opting out

2709
01:31:40,554 --> 01:31:43,114
in and of itself, a type of casting

2710
01:31:43,114 --> 01:31:45,124
a vote. Hundred percent. You know? And this

2711
01:31:45,124 --> 01:31:46,719
is where extension comes in where they they

2712
01:31:46,719 --> 01:31:48,154
wanna give you that option anymore. They should

2713
01:31:48,154 --> 01:31:50,864
be that option. So so so first of

2714
01:31:50,864 --> 01:31:52,951
all, I think that that you... You are

2715
01:31:52,951 --> 01:31:54,621
making a choice and to some degree you

2716
01:31:54,621 --> 01:31:55,917
are making your choice

2717
01:31:56,371 --> 01:31:57,485
known. Do I agree with the point you

2718
01:31:57,485 --> 01:31:58,042
just made. Mh.

2719
01:31:59,155 --> 01:32:00,905
So let's let's get get that out there.

2720
01:32:01,158 --> 01:32:02,912
And I know that that's gonna wrestle against

2721
01:32:02,912 --> 01:32:04,188
some people I know I mean, you got.

2722
01:32:04,347 --> 01:32:05,464
You got a very smart audience. And so

2723
01:32:05,464 --> 01:32:07,217
they they may understand that. But there are

2724
01:32:07,217 --> 01:32:08,891
people that I work with, people that I

2725
01:32:08,891 --> 01:32:10,823
respect. And I know they disagree with me

2726
01:32:10,823 --> 01:32:12,421
on this point. And and and I at

2727
01:32:12,421 --> 01:32:14,738
least, I can understand and I can appreciate

2728
01:32:14,738 --> 01:32:15,057
why.

2729
01:32:15,697 --> 01:32:17,075
But I do think that

2730
01:32:18,028 --> 01:32:20,101
I have a very bleak view of our

2731
01:32:20,101 --> 01:32:21,776
electoral process. And in fact, I'll I'll go

2732
01:32:21,776 --> 01:32:22,893
1 step further, and I'll say,

2733
01:32:24,408 --> 01:32:26,561
something that I personally have not spoken a

2734
01:32:26,561 --> 01:32:26,961
lot about.

2735
01:32:27,774 --> 01:32:30,490
Is January sixth. And here's why. It's not

2736
01:32:30,490 --> 01:32:31,230
that I

2737
01:32:32,328 --> 01:32:34,247
am not bothered by what happened. It's not...

2738
01:32:34,327 --> 01:32:35,765
That that's not the... That's not the issue.

2739
01:32:36,420 --> 01:32:38,358
It's not that I don't think there are

2740
01:32:39,377 --> 01:32:40,735
a lot of crazy things that happened in

2741
01:32:40,735 --> 01:32:42,434
20 20 election. It's that

2742
01:32:42,972 --> 01:32:44,810
I did I didn't already think that our

2743
01:32:44,810 --> 01:32:46,500
elections were free and fair. Begin with. Mh.

2744
01:32:46,739 --> 01:32:48,648
And in fact, I think a lot of

2745
01:32:48,648 --> 01:32:50,739
what happened in 20 20 was them

2746
01:32:51,194 --> 01:32:52,331
basically showcasing

2747
01:32:53,518 --> 01:32:55,990
you, American voter. You have no power here.

2748
01:32:56,150 --> 01:32:57,824
Mh. I think it was part of...

2749
01:32:58,542 --> 01:32:59,899
I think it was there was a there

2750
01:32:59,899 --> 01:33:01,196
was AAAA whole

2751
01:33:01,573 --> 01:33:02,791
intentional gas lighting

2752
01:33:03,582 --> 01:33:05,493
approach that was taken there with that. You...

2753
01:33:05,653 --> 01:33:06,847
Or would you say that connects to the

2754
01:33:06,847 --> 01:33:08,600
larger thing we were just talking about? It's

2755
01:33:08,600 --> 01:33:10,114
not an American politics, but it's something bigger

2756
01:33:10,114 --> 01:33:12,319
at outside. Yeah. I would agree Think So

2757
01:33:12,518 --> 01:33:13,232
So for me,

2758
01:33:13,867 --> 01:33:16,485
again, so for people, let's say, you know,

2759
01:33:16,962 --> 01:33:19,024
you are a... Let's say you're a Trump

2760
01:33:19,024 --> 01:33:19,262
supporter.

2761
01:33:19,833 --> 01:33:21,824
And you voted for Trump in the 20

2762
01:33:21,824 --> 01:33:23,997
20 election, and you therefore

2763
01:33:24,373 --> 01:33:24,873
feel

2764
01:33:25,887 --> 01:33:27,799
you know, completely... You feel that your rights

2765
01:33:27,799 --> 01:33:29,646
have been a sale, because you believe that

2766
01:33:29,646 --> 01:33:31,800
the election was stolen. Mh. I wouldn't necessarily

2767
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:33,416
disagree with you. But

2768
01:33:34,271 --> 01:33:35,706
but what I would say is,

2769
01:33:36,822 --> 01:33:37,141
again,

2770
01:33:38,592 --> 01:33:39,948
I don't think our elections have been free

2771
01:33:39,948 --> 01:33:41,782
or fair a very long time. Right. So

2772
01:33:41,862 --> 01:33:44,573
Right. So I think that was deliberately planned

2773
01:33:44,573 --> 01:33:46,090
and was going to be done. And I

2774
01:33:46,090 --> 01:33:47,858
think that there is an entire you know,

2775
01:33:48,016 --> 01:33:49,923
gas lighting drive behind that as well. And

2776
01:33:50,002 --> 01:33:51,059
I think it's to showcase

2777
01:33:51,750 --> 01:33:53,737
you, American voter, you don't have the power

2778
01:33:53,737 --> 01:33:55,087
that you think you do. Yeah. Well, so

2779
01:33:55,087 --> 01:33:56,773
you would you argue that... What you're saying

2780
01:33:56,773 --> 01:33:58,288
is we... Yes, we all agree that the

2781
01:33:58,288 --> 01:33:59,963
election is stolen, but it's not from 1

2782
01:33:59,963 --> 01:34:01,079
side of the other. You're all being stolen.

2783
01:34:01,319 --> 01:34:02,515
I think it's bigger than that. Right. Yes

2784
01:34:02,515 --> 01:34:04,031
right. So I don't think him and this

2785
01:34:04,031 --> 01:34:04,988
is this is probably gonna piss a lot

2786
01:34:04,988 --> 01:34:05,466
of people off.

2787
01:34:06,279 --> 01:34:07,558
I don't think the Democrats democrat stole the

2788
01:34:07,558 --> 01:34:08,996
election. Mh. I think it's bigger than that.

2789
01:34:09,236 --> 01:34:11,553
Right. Yeah. And I've and and I think

2790
01:34:11,553 --> 01:34:12,113
it's it's

2791
01:34:13,152 --> 01:34:14,430
there was a facade.

2792
01:34:15,005 --> 01:34:16,284
It's been there for a very long time.

2793
01:34:16,445 --> 01:34:18,284
Mh. And they kind of allowed us to

2794
01:34:18,284 --> 01:34:20,445
peek behind the curtain not fully. Right. But

2795
01:34:20,445 --> 01:34:22,125
they allowed us to peek behind the curtain

2796
01:34:22,125 --> 01:34:23,185
and see something

2797
01:34:23,738 --> 01:34:25,886
And people are mis what they have seen.

2798
01:34:26,203 --> 01:34:27,716
Interesting. That makes sense. Yeah Well, this is

2799
01:34:27,716 --> 01:34:29,306
the engine in fall kind of conversation. If

2800
01:34:29,306 --> 01:34:30,913
we look at that way that we're... They

2801
01:34:30,913 --> 01:34:33,306
were being edged along into something. You know,

2802
01:34:33,466 --> 01:34:35,061
we're taking the bait, you know, whether that's

2803
01:34:35,061 --> 01:34:37,453
through the Covid 19 conversation, the the world

2804
01:34:37,453 --> 01:34:39,608
economic forum, the Who. Like, I see that

2805
01:34:39,608 --> 01:34:41,778
kind of happening where being led in the

2806
01:34:41,778 --> 01:34:43,215
direction to kind of come to the conclusion

2807
01:34:43,215 --> 01:34:44,811
that we need the change that they're presenting

2808
01:34:44,811 --> 01:34:48,105
for us. I think 100 percent, I think

2809
01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,162
or So I think this is all kinda

2810
01:34:52,162 --> 01:34:53,591
wrapped up with Covid, because I it's infinitely

2811
01:34:53,591 --> 01:34:55,178
bigger than. Right? But but when you look

2812
01:34:55,178 --> 01:34:56,448
at Covid, I think...

2813
01:34:58,368 --> 01:34:59,798
And I thought this for about, you know,

2814
01:34:59,957 --> 01:35:01,545
2 years or so now. But I think

2815
01:35:01,545 --> 01:35:02,417
to some degree,

2816
01:35:03,529 --> 01:35:05,911
Covid is an opt that was designed to

2817
01:35:05,911 --> 01:35:08,951
fail. Mh. But by... Failing, it actually succeeds.

2818
01:35:09,350 --> 01:35:11,426
Okay? There was a type of failure that

2819
01:35:11,426 --> 01:35:13,580
was baked into the the cake of the

2820
01:35:13,580 --> 01:35:15,198
operation So to speak and that

2821
01:35:17,502 --> 01:35:18,536
that eventually,

2822
01:35:19,491 --> 01:35:21,800
the truth was going to emerge, but not

2823
01:35:21,800 --> 01:35:23,073
because it just couldn't be contained and it

2824
01:35:23,073 --> 01:35:25,480
was just going to organically emerge. Mh but

2825
01:35:25,480 --> 01:35:27,636
because they were going to eventually allow it

2826
01:35:27,636 --> 01:35:29,791
to emerge. And that when it does, what

2827
01:35:29,791 --> 01:35:30,988
will happen is a lot of kind of,

2828
01:35:31,068 --> 01:35:33,633
like, institutional collapse, And sure. They may throw

2829
01:35:33,633 --> 01:35:35,543
us fauci or some other people that's always

2830
01:35:35,543 --> 01:35:37,215
here. They were always expendable to begin with.

2831
01:35:37,453 --> 01:35:39,045
You know because his fauci is not a

2832
01:35:39,045 --> 01:35:40,954
major power player. He's he's an Aaron boy.

2833
01:35:41,273 --> 01:35:41,432
Right?

2834
01:35:43,284 --> 01:35:45,524
But the... What happens when Americans realize, I

2835
01:35:45,524 --> 01:35:47,045
mean, I I can't trust my doctor. Mh.

2836
01:35:47,284 --> 01:35:49,364
And I can't trust my child school teacher,

2837
01:35:49,524 --> 01:35:51,780
and I can't trust. The university that I

2838
01:35:51,780 --> 01:35:53,380
was gonna send my, you know, young adult

2839
01:35:53,380 --> 01:35:54,979
child too. Mh. And I can't I I

2840
01:35:54,979 --> 01:35:56,899
can't trust the military that my other child

2841
01:35:56,899 --> 01:35:58,340
wanted to join or, you know, or whatever.

2842
01:35:58,659 --> 01:36:00,199
And, I can't trust

2843
01:36:00,672 --> 01:36:00,911
whatever,

2844
01:36:01,627 --> 01:36:02,901
I can't trust the church that I was

2845
01:36:02,901 --> 01:36:04,572
going to for a long time because it

2846
01:36:04,572 --> 01:36:07,437
it it completely, you know... So what happens

2847
01:36:07,437 --> 01:36:08,711
when Americans have this,

2848
01:36:10,556 --> 01:36:11,056
multi

2849
01:36:11,432 --> 01:36:11,932
factorial

2850
01:36:12,707 --> 01:36:16,131
loss of faith Mh. In their institutions. And

2851
01:36:16,131 --> 01:36:18,360
if those collapse, Don't have to completely collapse.

2852
01:36:18,694 --> 01:36:20,440
But if there is at least a a

2853
01:36:20,440 --> 01:36:23,083
collapse of some or multiple of these institutions

2854
01:36:23,139 --> 01:36:24,488
in whole or in part,

2855
01:36:25,282 --> 01:36:27,187
or what happens then when the when the...

2856
01:36:27,599 --> 01:36:29,984
The new system is then brought in to

2857
01:36:29,984 --> 01:36:30,621
bring the

2858
01:36:31,177 --> 01:36:32,927
Life. The the solution that we didn't know

2859
01:36:32,927 --> 01:36:35,551
we needed. Exactly. Right? Yeah. I completely agree.

2860
01:36:35,964 --> 01:36:38,025
And, you know, and whether that is explicitly

2861
01:36:38,025 --> 01:36:39,927
what we're highlighting, I still think it's happening.

2862
01:36:40,086 --> 01:36:41,751
Like, I think it's exactly what's going on.

2863
01:36:41,909 --> 01:36:43,416
And... You know, and this is so it's

2864
01:36:43,416 --> 01:36:44,786
hard... For a lot of average people that

2865
01:36:44,786 --> 01:36:46,939
don't really immerse themselves in this because it

2866
01:36:46,939 --> 01:36:48,933
very well may look like the solution that

2867
01:36:48,933 --> 01:36:49,970
fixes the problem. You know?

2868
01:36:51,007 --> 01:36:52,123
But we need to always... And this goes

2869
01:36:52,123 --> 01:36:53,001
back to the same thing you're were just

2870
01:36:53,001 --> 01:36:54,922
highlighting. It's it's the the it's, you know,

2871
01:36:55,081 --> 01:36:56,984
proper action solution. The idea of saying here

2872
01:36:56,984 --> 01:36:58,806
is the thing. And... But here's the other

2873
01:36:58,806 --> 01:37:00,154
thing. You know, and the... And so you

2874
01:37:00,154 --> 01:37:01,130
can... I

2875
01:37:01,600 --> 01:37:03,039
pick either 1 of them and it still

2876
01:37:03,039 --> 01:37:04,400
takes you down that path. You know? And

2877
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:05,840
I think that's really what this ends up

2878
01:37:05,840 --> 01:37:07,680
being. I'm hoping just people can stand back

2879
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,440
and realize that there's never just 2 choices.

2880
01:37:09,694 --> 01:37:11,211
Right? There's infinite choices. There are lots of

2881
01:37:11,211 --> 01:37:12,807
different paths you can take, and I think

2882
01:37:12,807 --> 01:37:15,042
we're being coached into that exactly like you

2883
01:37:15,042 --> 01:37:17,436
described. And that's a terrifying reality. Let me

2884
01:37:17,436 --> 01:37:18,489
say something on that. Too.

2885
01:37:19,289 --> 01:37:20,489
Because I I do like to be hopeful.

2886
01:37:20,729 --> 01:37:21,930
I'm not a I'm not a a black

2887
01:37:21,930 --> 01:37:23,369
pill type guy or 1 of these guys

2888
01:37:23,369 --> 01:37:24,810
that says all hopeless. I I think that's...

2889
01:37:25,050 --> 01:37:26,489
I agree. I think that's quite dangerous. And

2890
01:37:26,569 --> 01:37:27,710
I think that's actually

2891
01:37:28,740 --> 01:37:30,969
a, a response that they hope to provoke

2892
01:37:30,969 --> 01:37:32,801
in a certain subset of the population. Right

2893
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:33,358
Right? Right?

2894
01:37:34,869 --> 01:37:37,917
But I do think that there are things

2895
01:37:37,917 --> 01:37:40,315
that are going to look like victories. Mh.

2896
01:37:40,555 --> 01:37:43,292
That are not necessarily victories because they are

2897
01:37:43,431 --> 01:37:45,030
permitting these things to happen. Give have an

2898
01:37:45,030 --> 01:37:45,270
example?

2899
01:37:46,081 --> 01:37:47,748
Well, okay. Just kind of what I was

2900
01:37:47,748 --> 01:37:48,701
going to with this,

2901
01:37:49,337 --> 01:37:51,877
with this potentially what we're seeing of of

2902
01:37:51,877 --> 01:37:53,465
the emergence of what a lot of us

2903
01:37:53,465 --> 01:37:54,735
have known all along with the with the...

2904
01:37:54,829 --> 01:37:56,342
A of, you know, the Covid data. Whether

2905
01:37:56,342 --> 01:37:57,001
it's either

2906
01:37:58,730 --> 01:38:00,720
you know, the fact that hitting shots were

2907
01:38:00,720 --> 01:38:02,631
never early vaccines to begin with or whether

2908
01:38:02,631 --> 01:38:03,600
it's a the fact that hey a lot

2909
01:38:03,600 --> 01:38:05,269
of people were actually harmed by these shots

2910
01:38:05,269 --> 01:38:07,416
or or whatever you wanna call? Okay. Lockdown

2911
01:38:07,416 --> 01:38:09,165
downs were never necessary, you know, kinda of

2912
01:38:09,165 --> 01:38:11,409
pick any variety of that, but the I

2913
01:38:11,409 --> 01:38:12,869
think it's quite conceivable

2914
01:38:13,250 --> 01:38:16,050
that they could actually allow the emergence of

2915
01:38:16,050 --> 01:38:17,810
that to come out. Yeah. And that that

2916
01:38:17,810 --> 01:38:18,710
will cause

2917
01:38:19,182 --> 01:38:20,000
a lot of

2918
01:38:20,372 --> 01:38:23,385
individuals, but relatively, you know, minor players, like

2919
01:38:23,463 --> 01:38:25,050
Fauci. And Fauci is a minor player. Yeah.

2920
01:38:25,287 --> 01:38:26,238
I think even Bill Gates,

2921
01:38:26,888 --> 01:38:29,192
is is relatively, you know, a minor player

2922
01:38:29,192 --> 01:38:31,019
when it comes to the way things really...

2923
01:38:31,177 --> 01:38:33,163
Yes. Yeah. Agree. Which means they're completely expendable.

2924
01:38:33,323 --> 01:38:35,094
Right? Right. And so

2925
01:38:35,405 --> 01:38:36,685
So they they may or may not know

2926
01:38:36,685 --> 01:38:38,125
that. I don't know. I don't know. But

2927
01:38:38,765 --> 01:38:39,965
they may or may not know that themselves.

2928
01:38:40,125 --> 01:38:40,925
But in any case,

2929
01:38:42,125 --> 01:38:43,645
but if you if you say,

2930
01:38:45,737 --> 01:38:47,332
Okay. Like these fauci hearings that just happened.

2931
01:38:47,491 --> 01:38:49,644
Like, oh, yes. Finally, you know, like, if

2932
01:38:49,644 --> 01:38:50,680
you latch onto that,

2933
01:38:51,398 --> 01:38:52,833
and you think that's it's that it's a

2934
01:38:52,833 --> 01:38:54,920
victory, you know, it it it may not

2935
01:38:54,920 --> 01:38:58,739
necessarily be a victory. Yeah. Or what we

2936
01:38:58,739 --> 01:39:00,410
talked about, you know, a year and a

2937
01:39:00,410 --> 01:39:03,218
half ago with the 20 23 Nda, which

2938
01:39:03,529 --> 01:39:05,752
halted the Covid shot mandate for the military.

2939
01:39:06,627 --> 01:39:08,136
A lot of people held that as a

2940
01:39:08,136 --> 01:39:10,837
victory. And and I will I will say

2941
01:39:10,837 --> 01:39:11,496
to you

2942
01:39:12,439 --> 01:39:14,264
I'm glad that it stopped the mandate, and

2943
01:39:14,423 --> 01:39:16,962
I'm glad that it salvage their careers of

2944
01:39:16,962 --> 01:39:18,389
people who are in the process.

2945
01:39:19,118 --> 01:39:21,188
Of having their cases ad educated and potentially

2946
01:39:21,188 --> 01:39:22,222
were going to be kicked out of the

2947
01:39:22,222 --> 01:39:23,359
military and they weren't

2948
01:39:23,814 --> 01:39:25,588
because that mandate went into effect

2949
01:39:25,963 --> 01:39:27,555
before they were booted. So it salvage some

2950
01:39:27,555 --> 01:39:28,351
careers. That's true.

2951
01:39:29,557 --> 01:39:30,057
But

2952
01:39:30,589 --> 01:39:32,810
I'm not gonna concede that overall that it

2953
01:39:32,810 --> 01:39:34,398
was a victory because I think it was

2954
01:39:34,398 --> 01:39:36,143
a strategic move on their part. Yeah. And

2955
01:39:36,222 --> 01:39:37,588
I'm not 1 of these people. I do

2956
01:39:37,588 --> 01:39:40,460
not whoever, you, you know, is the man

2957
01:39:40,460 --> 01:39:42,613
or or men behind the curtain because it

2958
01:39:42,613 --> 01:39:44,049
may more than 1, you know, group or

2959
01:39:44,049 --> 01:39:45,644
what I don't know. Mh. And there's probably

2960
01:39:45,644 --> 01:39:48,054
some factual in fighting which whoever these organizations

2961
01:39:48,054 --> 01:39:49,175
are, they have a lot of control.

2962
01:39:50,694 --> 01:39:53,974
But whoever, you know, this person or people

2963
01:39:53,974 --> 01:39:54,454
may be,

2964
01:39:55,664 --> 01:39:57,648
they are not incompetent. I do not believe

2965
01:39:57,648 --> 01:40:00,449
that the people kinda orchestrating this are Mh

2966
01:40:00,505 --> 01:40:00,902
incompetent.

2967
01:40:01,536 --> 01:40:01,932
I think they're...

2968
01:40:02,664 --> 01:40:03,784
Very smart. I think they have a lot

2969
01:40:03,784 --> 01:40:05,704
of resources at their disposal. I think it

2970
01:40:05,704 --> 01:40:06,824
layers beneath them,

2971
01:40:07,545 --> 01:40:09,465
that's where you see incompetence. And maybe even

2972
01:40:09,465 --> 01:40:10,996
to some degree that's uses a smokes screen?

2973
01:40:11,235 --> 01:40:13,224
Yeah. To kinda hide those who may be

2974
01:40:13,224 --> 01:40:15,690
more powerful that are behind them? So is

2975
01:40:15,690 --> 01:40:17,918
there corruption in government? Yes, Of course. Is

2976
01:40:17,918 --> 01:40:19,921
there, you know, a a like,

2977
01:40:21,033 --> 01:40:24,052
bureaucracy that duplicates effort and even replicates effort

2978
01:40:24,052 --> 01:40:26,038
is totally a... You know, inefficient for sure.

2979
01:40:26,927 --> 01:40:28,064
But I don't think

2980
01:40:28,519 --> 01:40:30,746
corruption is an adequate des distributor for what

2981
01:40:30,746 --> 01:40:32,496
we're seeing. You know, Yeah. When you say

2982
01:40:32,496 --> 01:40:34,742
corruption to me, that's like, people taking bribes,

2983
01:40:34,902 --> 01:40:36,099
Mh cutting corners,

2984
01:40:36,818 --> 01:40:38,814
you know, ne. Now none of that is

2985
01:40:38,814 --> 01:40:40,729
good. I'm not I'm not defending any of

2986
01:40:40,729 --> 01:40:42,725
that. Mh. But what I'm saying is is

2987
01:40:42,725 --> 01:40:45,777
that barely scratches the surface of what we're

2988
01:40:45,777 --> 01:40:48,253
seeing. I completely agree. And so the to

2989
01:40:48,253 --> 01:40:49,372
to what to what you said a moment

2990
01:40:49,372 --> 01:40:51,050
ago go to end on a positive note.

2991
01:40:51,384 --> 01:40:54,720
You know, III do think that despite all

2992
01:40:54,720 --> 01:40:57,501
of that, we're interestingly. And I and I've

2993
01:40:57,501 --> 01:40:59,725
said this this my personal opinion, I think

2994
01:40:59,725 --> 01:41:00,939
it stems from

2995
01:41:01,329 --> 01:41:03,487
the way is real handled this after October

2996
01:41:03,487 --> 01:41:05,085
seventh to kinda just blew up everything they

2997
01:41:05,085 --> 01:41:07,003
were working on. I do think that wasn't

2998
01:41:07,003 --> 01:41:09,720
necessarily planned after October seventh. For knowledge aside,

2999
01:41:10,215 --> 01:41:11,807
that I think we're in an interesting moment

3000
01:41:11,807 --> 01:41:14,596
in time with with your accountability, ma'am, with

3001
01:41:14,596 --> 01:41:16,269
with all these things that we're talking about

3002
01:41:16,269 --> 01:41:18,261
where we have an opportunity here that I

3003
01:41:18,261 --> 01:41:19,296
don't think is actually...

3004
01:41:19,949 --> 01:41:21,806
You know, it very well could be another

3005
01:41:21,945 --> 01:41:23,941
engineered, you know, control demolition if you will,

3006
01:41:24,020 --> 01:41:25,777
kind of scenario. Mh. But I think we

3007
01:41:25,777 --> 01:41:27,693
have this opening where people are seeing things

3008
01:41:27,693 --> 01:41:30,180
that make the establishment uncomfortable think we have

3009
01:41:30,180 --> 01:41:32,986
situations where not the fauci. But legitimate

3010
01:41:33,361 --> 01:41:34,576
at least within a statehood

3011
01:41:34,951 --> 01:41:38,546
perspective, legitimate positions of power that I potentially

3012
01:41:38,546 --> 01:41:40,140
more than at least ever seen could be

3013
01:41:40,140 --> 01:41:42,691
held for something we're talking about. Couldn't genocide

3014
01:41:42,691 --> 01:41:44,126
and so on. That I think that we

3015
01:41:44,126 --> 01:41:46,612
have this positive moment where we might be

3016
01:41:46,612 --> 01:41:48,204
able to change things and at least even

3017
01:41:48,204 --> 01:41:50,117
in a... Positive step, a small step. And

3018
01:41:50,197 --> 01:41:51,392
I think that's something we need to fix

3019
01:41:51,392 --> 01:41:53,145
aid on to recognize that we have that,

3020
01:41:53,479 --> 01:41:55,899
at the very least whether things change politically

3021
01:41:56,199 --> 01:41:58,279
from our government perspective or not that the

3022
01:41:58,279 --> 01:42:00,734
amount of awareness that's being generated here about

3023
01:42:00,934 --> 01:42:02,770
you're talking about. Mh. Can be marshal in

3024
01:42:02,770 --> 01:42:04,605
the change some down the future. And I

3025
01:42:04,605 --> 01:42:06,122
think that's a positive moment. And I... What

3026
01:42:06,122 --> 01:42:08,038
do you think about that? I'm very curious

3027
01:42:08,038 --> 01:42:09,609
about what's gonna happen with the whole What

3028
01:42:10,128 --> 01:42:11,806
Israel situation. When I say that, what I

3029
01:42:11,806 --> 01:42:14,682
mean is is perceptions of people in the

3030
01:42:14,682 --> 01:42:17,252
west about what's going on there. And I

3031
01:42:17,252 --> 01:42:18,846
do see a lot of people who probably

3032
01:42:18,846 --> 01:42:21,637
were uncomfortable doing so now criticizing the actions

3033
01:42:21,637 --> 01:42:23,710
of the Israeli government. Right? And again, and

3034
01:42:23,869 --> 01:42:25,145
I I know you're you're you're quick to

3035
01:42:25,145 --> 01:42:26,916
make this. Distinction and it's a great distinction

3036
01:42:26,916 --> 01:42:28,909
because, you know, you said a couple times

3037
01:42:28,909 --> 01:42:29,628
and I have 2,

3038
01:42:30,665 --> 01:42:31,564
today that

3039
01:42:32,834 --> 01:42:34,590
government in country. Those aren't synonyms are not

3040
01:42:34,590 --> 01:42:36,367
exactly the same thing. Right. Well, that applies

3041
01:42:36,426 --> 01:42:38,820
for Americans, but also applies for Israelis. Exactly.

3042
01:42:39,060 --> 01:42:40,895
So, you know, nobody, but I know this

3043
01:42:40,895 --> 01:42:43,294
happens, you know, accusations, you know, run wild,

3044
01:42:43,532 --> 01:42:46,787
but nobody should ever accuse you me anybody

3045
01:42:46,787 --> 01:42:49,265
else of having any any sort of, you

3046
01:42:49,265 --> 01:42:51,204
know, hatred or ill will towards

3047
01:42:51,744 --> 01:42:53,744
Israelis because the actions of their government. Exactly

3048
01:42:53,744 --> 01:42:55,664
because we've we've spent an hour and a

3049
01:42:55,664 --> 01:42:57,505
half now criticizing our own government. And saying,

3050
01:42:58,000 --> 01:42:59,278
that doesn't equal the actions of the people.

3051
01:42:59,518 --> 01:42:59,677
Right?

3052
01:43:00,397 --> 01:43:02,075
So... And you'll find a lot of examples

3053
01:43:02,075 --> 01:43:03,194
of that is israel real right now. Oh,

3054
01:43:03,274 --> 01:43:05,752
won't we absolutely. Yeah. So I do think

3055
01:43:05,752 --> 01:43:07,290
that what we're seeing is

3056
01:43:10,401 --> 01:43:12,340
I I do not believe

3057
01:43:13,597 --> 01:43:16,668
that we should feel compelled to

3058
01:43:17,123 --> 01:43:18,340
unconditionally support,

3059
01:43:18,715 --> 01:43:20,169
you know, any

3060
01:43:20,544 --> 01:43:21,021
government,

3061
01:43:21,817 --> 01:43:23,567
particularly a foreign government. I don't I even

3062
01:43:23,567 --> 01:43:25,252
feel that about our own government. Right. I

3063
01:43:25,252 --> 01:43:27,958
don't know anyway feel compelled to unconditionally support

3064
01:43:27,958 --> 01:43:29,789
my government. Right. On every single thing that

3065
01:43:29,789 --> 01:43:30,448
it does

3066
01:43:30,903 --> 01:43:33,609
regardless of the context in which a certain

3067
01:43:33,609 --> 01:43:35,851
action is taken. Yeah. Or the consequences of

3068
01:43:35,851 --> 01:43:37,839
it, you know, etcetera, etcetera. Mh. So,

3069
01:43:38,952 --> 01:43:41,497
unfortunately, I'll just Echo will said earlier about

3070
01:43:41,497 --> 01:43:42,610
with the with the situation.

3071
01:43:44,614 --> 01:43:45,255
In Ukraine,

3072
01:43:45,814 --> 01:43:47,975
you know, you got real people on both

3073
01:43:47,975 --> 01:43:49,835
sides that are being harmed

3074
01:43:50,295 --> 01:43:52,935
by the actions of, I would say, pretty

3075
01:43:52,935 --> 01:43:55,103
sinister folks on on on both sides. Yeah.

3076
01:43:55,341 --> 01:43:56,849
Know I agree. And I do think that

3077
01:43:56,849 --> 01:43:57,349
there's

3078
01:43:58,279 --> 01:44:00,184
there are mechanisms of control that are kinda

3079
01:44:00,184 --> 01:44:02,406
controlling, you know, both sides there too. Mh.

3080
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:04,034
On and

3081
01:44:04,654 --> 01:44:06,515
I do believe it is undeniable

3082
01:44:07,055 --> 01:44:09,295
to admit even for those who are stubborn

3083
01:44:09,295 --> 01:44:10,654
and don't necessarily wanna do so. But I

3084
01:44:10,654 --> 01:44:12,903
it's undeniable, to admit that hey, listen.

3085
01:44:14,573 --> 01:44:16,720
All is not as it seems in in

3086
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:18,413
this whole situation that has

3087
01:44:18,804 --> 01:44:20,556
that occurred in October or has come forward

3088
01:44:20,556 --> 01:44:22,707
in time between October and now. Right. Right.

3089
01:44:23,027 --> 01:44:25,257
Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I definitely I, my...

3090
01:44:25,496 --> 01:44:27,019
I'm working. Extensive on that topic deck you

3091
01:44:27,019 --> 01:44:28,923
guys somehow include some links. I think it's

3092
01:44:28,923 --> 01:44:30,668
important to question all this stuff. And question

3093
01:44:30,668 --> 01:44:32,412
what I'm presenting as well, Don't just blindly

3094
01:44:32,412 --> 01:44:34,492
follow anybody's opinions. Of course. It's I'll I'll

3095
01:44:34,492 --> 01:44:35,605
end with a quote here that I think

3096
01:44:35,605 --> 01:44:37,037
kind of encapsulates what we you would just

3097
01:44:37,037 --> 01:44:38,151
said there at the end, and it's something

3098
01:44:38,310 --> 01:44:39,423
I've rep referenced many times.

3099
01:44:40,139 --> 01:44:41,827
Yeah. What... It always... Had to preface that

3100
01:44:41,827 --> 01:44:43,183
just because you quote somebody does not mean

3101
01:44:43,183 --> 01:44:45,018
you believe and endorse everything ever said, which

3102
01:44:45,018 --> 01:44:47,171
is the funny thing of today. But, Theodore

3103
01:44:47,251 --> 01:44:49,404
Roosevelt said, to announce that there there must

3104
01:44:49,404 --> 01:44:51,572
be no criticism of the president. Or that

3105
01:44:51,572 --> 01:44:53,481
we are to stand by the president right

3106
01:44:53,481 --> 01:44:55,550
or wrong, is not only on patriotic and

3107
01:44:55,550 --> 01:44:57,777
sur, but it's morally treason to the American

3108
01:44:57,856 --> 01:44:59,630
Public, and I would just extrapolate that out

3109
01:44:59,630 --> 01:45:01,229
to not just a president, but your government

3110
01:45:01,229 --> 01:45:03,630
in general. The argument should be clearly that

3111
01:45:03,630 --> 01:45:06,444
it's it's almost in your patriotic duty. To

3112
01:45:06,444 --> 01:45:08,685
question to push back against her government against

3113
01:45:08,685 --> 01:45:11,244
your president and not just passively choose a

3114
01:45:11,244 --> 01:45:12,925
side and high 5 and based on whatever

3115
01:45:12,925 --> 01:45:14,530
happens because your side's winning. You know, that...

3116
01:45:14,689 --> 01:45:15,801
That's where I think we are right now.

3117
01:45:16,038 --> 01:45:17,547
So I think, you know, this is such

3118
01:45:17,547 --> 01:45:19,930
an important conversation. I really appreciate you coming

3119
01:45:19,930 --> 01:45:21,850
out and and sitting down and talking about

3120
01:45:21,850 --> 01:45:23,441
all this because, you know, you're you're you're

3121
01:45:23,441 --> 01:45:24,872
a powerful voice in all this. You know,

3122
01:45:25,031 --> 01:45:26,542
what you've been through and what you're still

3123
01:45:26,542 --> 01:45:28,529
standing for as I said before is very

3124
01:45:28,529 --> 01:45:29,881
courageous, and I hope people will take the

3125
01:45:29,881 --> 01:45:31,726
time to look at your work, I'll include

3126
01:45:32,124 --> 01:45:33,637
in in the show notes, it's definitely your

3127
01:45:33,637 --> 01:45:35,787
your subs stack, and, the different things you've

3128
01:45:35,787 --> 01:45:37,857
been writing, I think it's powerful. And, you

3129
01:45:37,857 --> 01:45:39,943
know, just to end in general, anything you

3130
01:45:39,943 --> 01:45:42,016
wanna leave on around this conversation, any thoughts

3131
01:45:42,016 --> 01:45:43,692
you had any upcoming events you wanna talk

3132
01:45:43,692 --> 01:45:45,845
about or, you know, just final thoughts. Yeah.

3133
01:45:46,005 --> 01:45:47,600
Yeah. Thanks for that. You know, I appreciate

3134
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:48,956
that. So if people wanna find me, I

3135
01:45:48,956 --> 01:45:50,483
know you'll the links. But if people wanna

3136
01:45:50,483 --> 01:45:52,470
find me, there are 2 principal locations where

3137
01:45:52,470 --> 01:45:53,582
you can find me. So 1 is on

3138
01:45:53,582 --> 01:45:55,172
my Twitter that we've referenced a couple times.

3139
01:45:55,490 --> 01:45:57,239
The others on my subs which you just

3140
01:45:57,239 --> 01:45:58,033
mentioned, and

3141
01:45:58,590 --> 01:46:00,033
the I do try to write some of

3142
01:46:00,033 --> 01:46:01,858
my, kind of long form of thoughts there

3143
01:46:01,858 --> 01:46:03,761
on my subs people can just find it

3144
01:46:03,761 --> 01:46:06,618
brad Miller, 1 0 dot subs dot com.

3145
01:46:07,508 --> 01:46:09,422
For events. So I have done some work

3146
01:46:09,422 --> 01:46:09,741
with

3147
01:46:10,779 --> 01:46:13,091
children's health defense over the past, I guess,

3148
01:46:13,410 --> 01:46:14,926
over a year now, a little bit over

3149
01:46:14,926 --> 01:46:16,282
a year. And

3150
01:46:17,413 --> 01:46:19,506
I do some work with the the fairly

3151
01:46:19,563 --> 01:46:20,063
new

3152
01:46:20,917 --> 01:46:23,146
military chapter Okay children's health defense. And so

3153
01:46:23,146 --> 01:46:24,818
that was launched officially in October of last

3154
01:46:24,818 --> 01:46:25,056
year.

3155
01:46:26,426 --> 01:46:27,861
And we do some great work there just

3156
01:46:27,861 --> 01:46:29,078
for some people who

3157
01:46:29,456 --> 01:46:31,608
were largely, they were trying to resist the

3158
01:46:31,608 --> 01:46:33,760
mandate and they were looking for resources information.

3159
01:46:34,254 --> 01:46:36,724
They found children's self defense. Right. So that's

3160
01:46:36,724 --> 01:46:38,636
been that's been great. III like a lot

3161
01:46:38,636 --> 01:46:39,832
of the work that people kind of at

3162
01:46:39,832 --> 01:46:42,078
the ground level of really doing there, and

3163
01:46:42,078 --> 01:46:43,515
we actually do have an event that's gonna

3164
01:46:43,515 --> 01:46:46,629
be held in Charlottesville Virginia. Right. Over labor

3165
01:46:46,629 --> 01:46:48,145
day weekend. So it's gonna be held specifically

3166
01:46:48,145 --> 01:46:50,461
on 08/31/2024,

3167
01:46:50,953 --> 01:46:53,498
in Charlottesville Virginia. And you don't necessarily have

3168
01:46:53,498 --> 01:46:55,328
to have any any affiliation with the military

3169
01:46:55,488 --> 01:46:57,578
I mean the military chapters for anybody who

3170
01:46:57,968 --> 01:46:59,479
cares about what's going on in the military

3171
01:46:59,479 --> 01:47:01,944
and understands the important link between what happens

3172
01:47:01,944 --> 01:47:03,057
in the military in the country as a

3173
01:47:03,057 --> 01:47:03,774
whole. But,

3174
01:47:04,648 --> 01:47:06,238
people can look into that. I I've got

3175
01:47:06,238 --> 01:47:07,725
flyers that I presented on my on my

3176
01:47:08,162 --> 01:47:10,490
etcetera on it, But people can also just

3177
01:47:10,945 --> 01:47:13,512
find the website for that organization at

3178
01:47:13,887 --> 01:47:17,306
MIL, so mil dot children's health defense dot.

3179
01:47:17,878 --> 01:47:19,572
Or... But that's an event that we have

3180
01:47:19,630 --> 01:47:20,425
coming up. And

3181
01:47:21,778 --> 01:47:23,869
whenever we have updates for the military accountability

3182
01:47:23,926 --> 01:47:24,484
movement, we,

3183
01:47:25,850 --> 01:47:26,748
We also,

3184
01:47:27,203 --> 01:47:29,112
a lot of times broadcast that on on

3185
01:47:29,271 --> 01:47:30,862
Twitter, etcetera. Mh. And the last thing that

3186
01:47:30,942 --> 01:47:31,998
I'll mention is

3187
01:47:33,498 --> 01:47:34,768
I also do some work with

3188
01:47:35,482 --> 01:47:37,703
doctor James Lance wei. Mh. I know you're

3189
01:47:37,703 --> 01:47:40,084
familiar with at a website that he run,

3190
01:47:40,322 --> 01:47:43,275
which is called ipa ipad dash e. So

3191
01:47:43,275 --> 01:47:44,886
pack is an acronym that stands for

3192
01:47:45,498 --> 01:47:48,649
Institute for pure and applied knowledge. So IPAK

3193
01:47:48,849 --> 01:47:51,897
But, ipa ipad dash e u dot org

3194
01:47:52,194 --> 01:47:53,729
is a website for

3195
01:47:54,185 --> 01:47:57,154
curious open minded adults who are looking to

3196
01:47:57,783 --> 01:48:00,414
just kind of educate themselves on, you know,

3197
01:48:00,734 --> 01:48:02,430
empower themselves through learning

3198
01:48:02,806 --> 01:48:04,242
and and and finding a community of like,

3199
01:48:04,322 --> 01:48:07,127
minded individuals. So I've got courses there that

3200
01:48:07,207 --> 01:48:08,962
I have taught or other things that I'm

3201
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,595
that I'm working on, but people can go

3202
01:48:11,595 --> 01:48:14,002
to dash edu d u dot org. And

3203
01:48:14,002 --> 01:48:16,466
can find an entire catalog of probably 35

3204
01:48:16,466 --> 01:48:19,009
or more. Different courses of a variety of

3205
01:48:19,009 --> 01:48:21,814
topics, and it's for people who are not

3206
01:48:21,949 --> 01:48:24,271
content with you know, brick and mortar institutions

3207
01:48:24,271 --> 01:48:25,965
in their, you know, education platforms

3208
01:48:26,420 --> 01:48:28,408
or just, you know, I've had trouble finding

3209
01:48:28,886 --> 01:48:30,477
communities of people who are looking to kinda

3210
01:48:30,477 --> 01:48:33,200
get themselves smart to, kinda better understand how

3211
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:34,636
to operate and make decisions in this world.

3212
01:48:34,955 --> 01:48:36,470
Yeah. I'm a big fan of that platform

3213
01:48:36,470 --> 01:48:37,667
in general. And, you know, it makes sure...

3214
01:48:37,747 --> 01:48:38,943
If you have any any links you wanna

3215
01:48:38,943 --> 01:48:40,219
send over include them in the show. Okay.

3216
01:48:40,379 --> 01:48:42,868
I do... I love the idea of, you

3217
01:48:42,868 --> 01:48:45,185
know, going a different path out of the

3218
01:48:45,185 --> 01:48:47,103
the structured schooling system that we have or

3219
01:48:47,103 --> 01:48:48,861
whether even the work they're doing with peer

3220
01:48:48,861 --> 01:48:50,553
view process, and I Love all the work

3221
01:48:50,553 --> 01:48:52,229
they're doing. I think it's important to challenge

3222
01:48:52,229 --> 01:48:54,065
the systems that we have currently. You know?

3223
01:48:54,225 --> 01:48:55,822
So thank you again for being here, man.

3224
01:48:55,981 --> 01:48:57,098
I think that this has been a a

3225
01:48:57,098 --> 01:48:59,266
really important conversation and just I hope you

3226
01:48:59,266 --> 01:49:00,938
all will make sure you check out the

3227
01:49:00,938 --> 01:49:02,688
the different the points we discussed today, the

3228
01:49:02,688 --> 01:49:04,199
work that he's doing on both the subs

3229
01:49:04,359 --> 01:49:05,711
Twitter and and the the the...

3230
01:49:06,603 --> 01:49:07,799
I think it was a memo or or

3231
01:49:07,799 --> 01:49:10,750
a letter of accountability. Yeah declaration military. Yeah.

3232
01:49:11,149 --> 01:49:13,302
III think that's an important thing to be

3233
01:49:13,302 --> 01:49:15,296
discussing today as we as we highlighted whether

3234
01:49:15,296 --> 01:49:17,618
it applies to foreign policy or their upcoming

3235
01:49:17,618 --> 01:49:19,445
election. I just love that you're challenge this

3236
01:49:19,445 --> 01:49:20,795
stuff, man. I do think you're making a

3237
01:49:20,795 --> 01:49:22,224
big impact with people. So thanks again for

3238
01:49:22,224 --> 01:49:24,289
being here. Yeah. Thanks and and, great to

3239
01:49:24,289 --> 01:49:26,291
be here in studios, So, you, Really, really.

3240
01:49:26,450 --> 01:49:27,644
First 1. First 1 in the studio.

3241
01:49:28,360 --> 01:49:28,838
I'm honored.

3242
01:49:29,634 --> 01:49:30,987
Alright, guys. Thank you again for being here.

3243
01:49:31,146 --> 01:49:33,295
And as always question everything. Come to your

3244
01:49:33,295 --> 01:49:34,806
own conclusions. Stay vigilant.