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all day long and then hitch hi home

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tonight. This guy opened the door goes, Hey,

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you wanna ride. And I'm thinking... And I

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said go I said, where are you going,

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and I said I'm going to Paris. They

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said, oh, we're going to Paris. We'll give

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you a ride. So the guy opened the

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door. Was 2 door car, and he leaned

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forward for me to get back, and I

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just plop down right next to him put

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my my sales kit in my in my

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lap. And they start driving out of town

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and then the guy turned left.

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I literally open in the door. I'm dragging

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my foot on the ground going wait. Stop.

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A door to Paris, I pulled the door

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closed, my

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reaction was to not panic.

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They're going 80 miles an hour. And now

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I'm starting to really get the situation that

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I'm in.

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Both of them went silent. They weren't talking

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to me that weren't talking to each other,

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and they were just gone 80 miles an

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hour. And I just

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suddenly felt this this

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energy

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washed through my body.

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this

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feeling

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moves through my body in a way I

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had never felt it in my life. And

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I felt completely this

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expansive,

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like a gold radiant

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energy in my body

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and then a voice said very directly into

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my mind,

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love them.

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Just love them.

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Right now, on higher journeys with Alexis Brooks.

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Well, hello, everyone. Welcome to hire journeys. I

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am your host of course, Alexis Brooks, and

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I am so delighted to be back with

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you once again with a brand new guest

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and someone that I know you're gonna love.

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You're gonna love her because she's got... Well,

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We're were just talking offline People love storytelling.

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Right? People love to tell stories and they

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love to hear them. Well, I have a

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story for you. I have a story for

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you that I'm going... To turn over to

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my guest. Her name is Heather Noel.

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She's a lovely lovely woman with so many

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things to share. And, Heather, first of all,

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let me just say welcome. First time on

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hire journeys. We're happy to have you here.

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Thank you.

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Her I wanted be delighted to be here.

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I mean, I am delighted you were here

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because the story that you have is, I

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I call it Journeys,

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the improbable

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journey because, you know, we think of life

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is having

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steps that we can see. We know that

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there are always

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unforeseen circumstances in journey and curves that we

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don't expect to take, but this is a

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curve

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that, Heather's is gonna share with you that

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you you probably would never expect. So... Without

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further ado, Heather, I want you to go

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into

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your improbable journey and where it started, and

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I believe it was.

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The seventies, You were 19 years old, living

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in Texas. Tell us what happened.

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Okay. Look...

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Before I tell you this, I wanna say

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this is a near death experience. Mh. And

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that in the seventies

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was when the book came out life after

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life. And people start talking about life after

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death, I didn't hear about this until the

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eighties,

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all of the people that are talking now

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about your death, the experiences for the most

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part are people who actually physically

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away. I was doing director to research. I'm

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not gonna get into this, but I just

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wanna say that this was truly a near

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death experience. I didn't die.

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I just wanted to clarify that. So that

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if anyone was like, like, that she die,

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I didn't, but I'm very glad I didn't.

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But yeah anyhow, here's what happened. I actually

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grew up in Illinois,

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I was going to the university of Illinois,

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my best friend had been doing door to

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door book sales the year before.

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come sell with me and she was in

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Texas, and

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everybody goes through a week long training slash,

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little bit of brainwashing kind of thing. And

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so you're just ra ra ra. The minute

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you get out of there, and you can't

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wait to start train, you know, going out

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and selling. So I get to Texas,

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and the first and there, my sales manager

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takes me in her car start from Paris,

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Texas down to a little town called Cooper,

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which is called Copper and Texas.

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all day long and then hitch hi home

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tonight.

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And now I'm 19, and I have to

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tell you I grew up with horses. I

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grew up in the country. I was pretty

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fearless. I, you know, had thousand pound animals

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I dealt with, so I... I had no

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fears at all, and I would walk him

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in the dark. So I was like, okay.

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I'll go... You know, I'll be sure I'm

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on the road, well, while it's light.

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trying to sell my books and people would

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start to talk to me, and I'd say,

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oh, yeah. I'm pitching home hitch pitching a

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right hold They're like, are you insane? Do

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you know where you are? And now mind

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you the town I grew up in was

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called Carrie it was 45 miles northwest ship

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Chicago. It was so tiny that there were

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no ethnic minorities.

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I had 0 prejudice

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and 0

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comprehension of what Prejudice was all about at

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all, Nothing.

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I had no intentions of I was gonna

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be very careful, fit the right car. Well,

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went back to the place where she dropped

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me off, which is right off the main

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square of the town. It was a straight

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shot from Paris to the straight. I to

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the square, and I'm standing there,

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I get there at 05:30 at night

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I was still standing there and nobody not

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1 person had driven out of the town.

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day,

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that the a highway had been built around

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the town. And I was from such a

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small town that never even occurred to me

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that there was any place else I just

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thought. Gosh, nobody goes anywhere. So we were

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taught not to call home. I was not

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given a phone number or an address where

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I lived. Gosh And I just didn't know

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what to do and I was 19. So

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at 1 point, these 2 black men pulled

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up, This guy opened the door goes, hey,

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you wanna ride, and I'm thinking, and I,

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he... I said where you going. And I

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said I'm going to Paris. And they said,

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oh, we're going to Paris. We'll give you

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a ride. So the guy opened the door.

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back, and I just plop down right next

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to him put my my sales kit in

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my in my lap and they start driving

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out of town and then the guy turned

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left. And And, now, of course, it's pitch

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black. And I literally open the door. I'm

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dragging my foot on the ground going, wait.

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Stop. I'm go to Paris. And he's like,

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what's bed with you, girl. I'm going to

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Embarrassed, and I went... And I pulled the

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door closed because there was... He was going

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faster and faster. There was no way.

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I pulled the door closed,

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and I have a whole background in acting.

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So, I just went... Oh, well, thank goodness.

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I thought you were going the wrong way,

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and I just started playing

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along, and the guy sitting next and maybe

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going, hey, baby. Gave me a little sugar,

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and I went,

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Sky really this desperate. I mean, couldn't you

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set him up with somebody else? Like, right.

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I want... I'm gonna stop you right there.

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So at this point? Because this is a

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full story, guys. At this point, when you

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said what you said, you had... You knew

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something was going on and you just checked

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in. Okay. Yeah. I mean III

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tried to jump out the door. I knew.

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I knew exactly what was going on. Okay.

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my

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reaction, Was to not panic. That was my

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initial reaction was don't panic, just play along

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with this. It was really quick. Right? Mh.

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they chatted with me for a little bit,

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didn't get anywhere, and

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they're going 80 miles an hour. Mh. And

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now I'm starting to really get

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how

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the situation that I'm in. And

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had lived in cities well not really lived

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in the city, but I've been in cities

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before

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and I always thought that was scary to

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be in the city. That is nothing compared

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to be in the country where there are

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little dirt roads, that every few miles so

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that the tractors can go and... So... And

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and this was high season in terms of

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the corn was high. If they had pulled

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up it, any moment, no 1 would see

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me. No 1 see the car, no 1

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would know it happened to me.

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So I'm aware of this.

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And as I'm saying there, they just went...

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Both of them went silent. They weren't talking

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to me. They weren't talking to each other,

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and they were just going 80 miles an

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hour, and there was nothing.

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In fact, the 2 houses I saw were

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a quarter of a mile off the road.

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There were these ranch houses, and that was

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it, and there was nothing out there.

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I didn't know when they were gonna do

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something,

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and I just

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suddenly felt this this energy

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washed through my body.

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raised in meta physics. And so my concept

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of God was based on the idea of

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it. Of god being principal mind soul, spirit

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life truth and love. So all spiritual, there

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was no guilt or and shame, and nothing

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in my in my background. So I always

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had this beautiful

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understanding of God as love.

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feeling

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in moved through my body in a way

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I had never felt it in my life.

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And I felt completely this

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expansive.

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Like a gold radiant

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energy in my body

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and then a voice that very directly into

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my mind,

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love them.

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Just love them.

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And so I sat there and I just

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focused all my energy on love.

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And I began to imagine them,

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being loved as children having this loving

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relationship with people

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being

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just just love, You know, Like, I just

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surrounded it. And I... But I was sitting

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there doing this. And, you know, I thought

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that they were driving for 20 minutes, but

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when I was thinking about this because I

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hadn't really thought about it for a while.

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When they finally...

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Here's what happened. They drove for... I would

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say probably

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at least 40 minutes.

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They came to a t in the road.

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It was paris to the right something else

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was left. They turned left. I did and

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say a word. And now, you know, now

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I know that, like, like, this partner is,

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please please please let to write because they

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really are good people in and So now

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I have to really redo double my efforts

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to be in this place of love. And

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so I'm there again,

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they come again to another tea, and there

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was the first house that I saw, and

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we had been traveling

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for probably an hour because

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I remember that...

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Okay. They turned... They slowed down to go

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left. And because they had no idea that

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I I had no resistance. I wasn't

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I wasn't panicked nothing.

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And I was able to literally jump out

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the door, and they didn't expect it because

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I didn't act like there was problem.

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And so the 1 guy who was sitting

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the accident he tried to hold on to

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me, but I heard the driver as I'm

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jumping out the door, I heard him say,

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let her go.

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And to this day, I do not remember,

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I remember jumping from the car, and I

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remember running, and I have no... I have

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no memory of landing.

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Just like I'm running. That was it. So

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there was some kind of shock in there.

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But when I went to the door of

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this house,

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and I pounded on the door and they

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goodness they were awake. They let me in

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and

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and basically,

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you know, I still wanted to believe I

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was just that that naive. I'm pointing in

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the direction where these guys are like, I

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go, can you just? Paris. My goodness. So

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they said, no hon, there's nothing out there

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until the main highway.

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So they were taking me out somewhere to

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some main highway who knows what the plan

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was, but,

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that

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that was my experience. Yeah and

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because

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my body was so

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in this state of

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you're gonna die, Heather. You are gonna die.

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That it was really amazing to just have

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this energy fill up in my body and

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feel it.

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But there's something I haven't told you yet

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because

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I ended up leaving and going to Florida,

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to stay with an ant of mind who

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lived in Jacksonville Beach. And she was...

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She was just a very kind person. She

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was wasn't a real ant, but I've everyone

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called her aunt clara. And so anyhow, I

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was staying with her.

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And I had been there once before, and

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I used to...

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Walk on the beach all the time, and

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this 1 day I went out,

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and

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I'm from illinois. So

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I've seen, you know, well, this was an

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unusual thing. The head was called a shore

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break, which is, like, a 10 foot rate

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wave that's right off the shore. Like, you

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could just

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swim right out there and begin it.

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And,

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you know, I had seen people

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have surfboard boards in those things. I'm like,

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wanna go swim in that.

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So

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I started swimming out there. And

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as you can imagine, I got caught up

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in the under toe,

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and it would pull me out and then

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the wave would crash over, and I dropped

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down, and it kept doing that over and

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over and over.

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And then the same love energy build up

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my body again.

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And and I I literally

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felt

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this peace

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and this love and this absolute

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conviction

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that I was not going to die, Even

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if my body died,

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I knew I was not Going to die.

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And I was in this state a love

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where I truly didn't care. I just didn't

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care. And not in enough, like, I don't

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care about my life, but just like, this

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is great. I

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I would call it a neutral space. So

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I'm gonna interject because you've got so much

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here. So we've segue away from 1

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scenario

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where this all per.

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Frequency of love is what I would say,

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Heather,

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came over you, which literally saved your life.

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And now we're cutting to another

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improbable

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situation where this identical so it was replicated.

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Right? So, Heather, let's continue on this road.

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You obviously,

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are

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dealing with

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very, very dire circumstances, but this all per

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energy that we're calling love, of frequency of

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love, has taken you over and once again,

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save continue with the story with what happened

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in the water.

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Well,

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you have to understand that when this is

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happening if you most people happily haven't had

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this experience,

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but it it gets overwhelming really fast. Because

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the minute you get up and have the

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opportunity to get some air. It's going over

430
00:15:19,214 --> 00:15:21,689
you and push... And it doesn't just it

431
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is so huge that it pushes you down

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into the water.

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And by the way, this was a very

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unusual in Florida.

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But it happens obviously because it did. In

436
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any case,

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this this feeling of love just took over,

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And I would take a breath, and then

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I just flowed with it, like, like the...

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Like, if I got pushed down, I didn't

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fight at all. And I was really

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percent okay with whatever was going to happen.

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It just mh that feeling of love had

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me also feeling that whatever happened is perfect.

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And that was the energy I was in.

446
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I was feeling that love again, and I

447
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was so happy to feel it again.

448
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And

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literally,

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I within about 10 minutes.

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I was literally pushed back into shore.

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Pushed in.

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I did not swim. It pushed me back.

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And I I looked at this later and

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apparently, there are, like, know, there can be

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circular thing was going on. I don't really

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understand it. Mh but

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it was pretty amazing because Mh. I did

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nothing. You I did nothing.

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And

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that is 1 of the things I have

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learned. If you're in a really

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intensive,

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Fearful

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situation, don't try to push against it. Absolutely.

466
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Well, just like a rip tie. Right? They

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say you swim with the the tied not

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against it. I have to bring something this

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is just incredibly powerful,

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Heather. And, obviously, I'm I'm very

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curious as to why certain individuals

472
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have these experiences where they magnet

473
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these sorts of scenarios

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only to overcome them and and and learn

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something from, obviously, you're gonna share with our

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audience what you've learned and what you're sharing

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with others, which is incredible. But this... These

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2 incidents remind me of,

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a story that was told to me by

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an individual named, Michael J Carter. He's

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an experience, sir, we we would say in

482
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the Et Ufo

483
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Realm,

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who

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tells a story of having a gun pulled

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on him, many years ago in New York

487
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City.

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He was comparing that to the fear that

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he has had with contacting encounters, but he

490
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said, the only thing that gave him more

491
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fear was when he was mug and a

492
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gun was pulled on him

493
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you know, a a close range got his

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head, literally. Mh. But Heather, what he described

495
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is so similar to what you described is

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almost the sustained sense of... It's almost a

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neutrality. It's almost... It's a feeling of just

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complete letting go. They say let go and

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let god. But he said that

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some people describe things moving in slow motion.

501
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But for him, it was almost he described

502
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it almost as a blissful state

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of complete detachment and full trust.

504
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Would you describe your situation to be some?

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It's exactly what it felt like. And and

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there's 1 other thing that happened on the

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beach I wanna share with you.

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And this was such a beautiful thing to

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me because

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I I used to just walk on the

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beach at and I I was... Like I

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said, completely fearless.

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And my aunt was always panicked.

514
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But but she would just, like, pray for

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me. And she didn't tell me that I

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shouldn't do that. You know, Guess I was...

517
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I was old enough to do what I

518
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wanted. But

519
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but after my Texas experience, I I was

520
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I would stay in the light. I, you

521
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know,

522
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like, if I went out at night, I

523
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was always under street lights.

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And

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1 night,

526
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I got caught up in the moon like,

527
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I'm walking down the beach. Now this is

528
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about... This this 19 77,

529
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and there were no houses at this point

530
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built on the beach where I... Where I

531
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ended up walking, and And all of a

532
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sudden, I hear a man's voice calling.

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And I'm I'm looking down the beach, and

534
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I'm looking around me, and there's

535
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nobody. There's... I mean, nobody anywhere near me,

536
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and there's no houses,

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and I look ahead and I think it.

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And then I see this

539
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this shape in the laying on this sand

540
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and the, you know, the water's washing up

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around it. And I think some got guy

542
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calling his dog,

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And then I realized it's a man,

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and he's calling me,

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and he's saying,

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I've been kidnapped.

547
00:19:43,159 --> 00:19:45,476
Police call the police, and I kids you

548
00:19:45,476 --> 00:19:47,474
not, they were bushes along the side, and

549
00:19:47,634 --> 00:19:48,533
I was wearing

550
00:19:49,392 --> 00:19:52,125
y'all about, but because he didn't asked me

551
00:19:52,125 --> 00:19:53,244
to come and help him.

552
00:19:53,884 --> 00:19:54,924
I felt, like,

553
00:19:55,565 --> 00:19:57,325
totally compelled. So I walked them to him,

554
00:19:57,565 --> 00:19:58,464
and it was to

555
00:19:58,779 --> 00:20:01,257
a very large black man. I mean, not

556
00:20:01,257 --> 00:20:03,494
fat, but paul, like a big guy. He

557
00:20:03,494 --> 00:20:04,953
was laying on his side

558
00:20:05,332 --> 00:20:07,410
with his hands, his wrists,

559
00:20:07,984 --> 00:20:10,305
and his ankles were tied together. Oh my

560
00:20:10,305 --> 00:20:11,505
goodness. Mh.

561
00:20:12,305 --> 00:20:15,596
And I immediately un tied him and helped

562
00:20:15,596 --> 00:20:18,302
him. He could barely walk. And he said,

563
00:20:19,417 --> 00:20:21,566
I can't tell you too much, but I'm

564
00:20:21,566 --> 00:20:23,874
so grateful to you for saving my life

565
00:20:23,874 --> 00:20:24,374
and

566
00:20:24,844 --> 00:20:27,399
and let me just tell you what happened.

567
00:20:28,437 --> 00:20:30,912
And basically, what I gathered from what he

568
00:20:30,912 --> 00:20:33,067
told me was he he was from Detroit,

569
00:20:33,386 --> 00:20:33,786
Michigan.

570
00:20:34,439 --> 00:20:37,543
And he had testified in court. So I'm

571
00:20:37,543 --> 00:20:39,055
assuming it was something to do with the

572
00:20:39,055 --> 00:20:39,453
mafia.

573
00:20:40,089 --> 00:20:41,681
Like I said, he didn't give me details,

574
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,884
but part of the deal for him and

575
00:20:44,005 --> 00:20:46,484
was he had to join the military. And

576
00:20:46,484 --> 00:20:48,744
he did, and he was stationed in Jacksonville.

577
00:20:49,845 --> 00:20:51,684
And I think he had just gone through

578
00:20:51,684 --> 00:20:53,611
basic training, and I don't know where that

579
00:20:53,611 --> 00:20:55,202
was, but this word's a down station.

580
00:20:56,078 --> 00:20:57,930
And he was just out at some little,

581
00:20:58,624 --> 00:21:00,309
you know, normal that you do on the

582
00:21:00,309 --> 00:21:01,262
street where there were a lot of people,

583
00:21:01,421 --> 00:21:03,169
a lot of people around, and he was

584
00:21:03,169 --> 00:21:05,259
literally just thrown into a trunk

585
00:21:05,712 --> 00:21:07,953
put into a boat, thing taken out to

586
00:21:07,953 --> 00:21:10,022
the ocean where he couldn't even see the

587
00:21:10,022 --> 00:21:12,408
shore. My goodness. They tied him up and

588
00:21:12,408 --> 00:21:14,413
threw them him into the ocean. And I

589
00:21:14,413 --> 00:21:16,006
thought about that... Well, why wouldn't they kill

590
00:21:16,006 --> 00:21:17,839
him, but you see they wanted to torture

591
00:21:17,839 --> 00:21:19,911
him? What a great way to torture somebody

592
00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:21,345
Okay tied them up.

593
00:21:21,998 --> 00:21:24,309
And he couldn't swim. He couldn't do anything,

594
00:21:24,627 --> 00:21:27,678
but somehow he ended up on the beach

595
00:21:27,974 --> 00:21:30,462
being washed into shore. Did he explain how

596
00:21:30,462 --> 00:21:32,558
he ended up on the beach? At did

597
00:21:32,696 --> 00:21:33,335
out of the water?

598
00:21:34,053 --> 00:21:35,968
He was just literally pushed in. He couldn't

599
00:21:35,968 --> 00:21:38,056
get up. He couldn't move. He... The water

600
00:21:38,056 --> 00:21:40,283
has literally pushed him onto Buried him in,

601
00:21:40,442 --> 00:21:42,431
like, with you. I have to ask this

602
00:21:42,431 --> 00:21:43,863
question my dear. You.

603
00:21:44,420 --> 00:21:46,344
The I'm trying to find the right word

604
00:21:46,344 --> 00:21:48,572
to describe the life that you've lived.

605
00:21:49,606 --> 00:21:51,197
Tempted to call it a charmed life. You

606
00:21:51,197 --> 00:21:53,685
of some, some descriptions are without words. But

607
00:21:53,685 --> 00:21:55,202
as I... And this is not the first

608
00:21:55,202 --> 00:21:57,438
time I've spoken with Heather, we've had a

609
00:21:58,635 --> 00:22:00,232
I think a couple of conversations at this

610
00:22:00,232 --> 00:22:00,711
point, but,

611
00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:04,088
clearly, there is a pattern

612
00:22:04,461 --> 00:22:04,961
of

613
00:22:06,366 --> 00:22:08,906
magic that's happening in your life, and there's

614
00:22:08,906 --> 00:22:10,752
a... Purpose. So I wanna... I I really

615
00:22:10,752 --> 00:22:12,503
do... I wanna get... We wanna hear all

616
00:22:12,503 --> 00:22:14,414
the stories, but I wanna get to how

617
00:22:14,414 --> 00:22:17,063
you have used these amazing

618
00:22:17,692 --> 00:22:20,311
amazingly powerful stories to help others, but continue

619
00:22:20,311 --> 00:22:22,057
on, but I I had to to to

620
00:22:22,057 --> 00:22:24,677
add that, heather because I do believe that

621
00:22:24,677 --> 00:22:25,867
there are certain people,

622
00:22:26,439 --> 00:22:28,913
that come here. We we I feel that

623
00:22:28,913 --> 00:22:30,829
we all have purpose. There's meaning,

624
00:22:31,467 --> 00:22:31,967
whatever,

625
00:22:32,505 --> 00:22:34,181
life may bring there's purpose and meaning to

626
00:22:34,181 --> 00:22:36,978
one's life. But with some like yourself, there

627
00:22:36,978 --> 00:22:37,875
are clearly

628
00:22:39,518 --> 00:22:42,946
hallmarks of you're here to help others, visa

629
00:22:42,946 --> 00:22:46,283
a vis these incredibly powerful experiences that that

630
00:22:46,283 --> 00:22:48,587
you've had? You saved somebody's life. Look what's

631
00:22:48,587 --> 00:22:50,732
happened? And who knows how you've changed those

632
00:22:50,732 --> 00:22:51,184
2

633
00:22:51,781 --> 00:22:53,611
young men that kidnapped you in Texas at

634
00:22:53,611 --> 00:22:54,645
the age of 19.

635
00:22:55,281 --> 00:22:55,781
I

636
00:22:56,156 --> 00:22:58,304
will never know how it may have changed

637
00:22:58,304 --> 00:23:00,390
their life and their pattern. So I just

638
00:23:00,390 --> 00:23:01,990
had to put my 2 cents for in

639
00:23:01,990 --> 00:23:03,590
there. And and it's a good point. And,

640
00:23:03,670 --> 00:23:05,509
you know, part of what occurred to me

641
00:23:05,509 --> 00:23:06,869
when I was loving them.

642
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,535
Was I realized that probably the reason that

643
00:23:10,535 --> 00:23:13,492
they kept driving with me was when they

644
00:23:13,705 --> 00:23:15,649
abducted me, it was a spontaneous

645
00:23:16,027 --> 00:23:17,303
thing. It wasn't planned.

646
00:23:17,862 --> 00:23:19,936
And all of a sudden, this is my

647
00:23:19,936 --> 00:23:22,271
belief that most likely the driver

648
00:23:22,744 --> 00:23:25,461
suddenly realized the position he was in. He

649
00:23:25,461 --> 00:23:27,379
didn't wanna look bad with his friend.

650
00:23:28,418 --> 00:23:30,816
And if they did anything to me or

651
00:23:30,816 --> 00:23:32,985
harmed me, they would have to kill me.

652
00:23:33,782 --> 00:23:35,935
And and everybody knew this. Like, this was

653
00:23:35,935 --> 00:23:37,928
not, you know, like, at that time, in

654
00:23:37,928 --> 00:23:39,602
the seventies in Texas,

655
00:23:40,414 --> 00:23:41,871
you know what I'm saying. So

656
00:23:42,488 --> 00:23:43,626
I feel that,

657
00:23:44,163 --> 00:23:46,476
you know, you could see that love had

658
00:23:46,476 --> 00:23:46,976
embraced

659
00:23:47,353 --> 00:23:49,927
everybody that he... That the driver was probably

660
00:23:50,878 --> 00:23:52,871
relieved rather than trying... That they could have

661
00:23:52,871 --> 00:23:54,307
gotten me back in the car and taken

662
00:23:54,307 --> 00:23:56,300
off before anyone could do anything but they

663
00:23:56,300 --> 00:23:56,619
didn't.

664
00:23:57,337 --> 00:23:59,432
And so it it was

665
00:24:00,464 --> 00:24:01,683
I know that that

666
00:24:02,461 --> 00:24:04,458
this guy was saved from doing something he

667
00:24:04,458 --> 00:24:06,476
probably didn't wanna do. Absolutely.

668
00:24:07,508 --> 00:24:08,008
So,

669
00:24:09,262 --> 00:24:12,133
anyhow, but but the thing that that really...

670
00:24:12,452 --> 00:24:15,584
That I was aware of is that nothing

671
00:24:15,721 --> 00:24:18,440
changed. In terms of how I saw people.

672
00:24:18,678 --> 00:24:21,220
I just... I have always loved people.

673
00:24:22,412 --> 00:24:22,912
And

674
00:24:23,858 --> 00:24:25,851
I would say that 1 of the things

675
00:24:25,851 --> 00:24:27,605
that it it... First of all, it takes

676
00:24:27,605 --> 00:24:29,996
a long time to look back and see

677
00:24:29,996 --> 00:24:32,323
these things, like, I didn't make. What you're

678
00:24:32,323 --> 00:24:34,317
seeing right now, that's not how it feels.

679
00:24:34,556 --> 00:24:36,789
But I... But I didn't do drama. I

680
00:24:36,789 --> 00:24:38,943
never saw myself as a victim ever.

681
00:24:39,820 --> 00:24:40,857
And because of that,

682
00:24:41,988 --> 00:24:44,607
that's probably the reason that it looks like.

683
00:24:44,925 --> 00:24:47,227
I lived a charmed life, and I have

684
00:24:47,227 --> 00:24:48,735
more things to tell you about this.

685
00:24:49,767 --> 00:24:50,267
But

686
00:24:51,054 --> 00:24:53,289
I really want to help people listening to

687
00:24:53,289 --> 00:24:55,046
this, make this connection.

688
00:24:55,924 --> 00:24:58,638
A lot of times people avoid things because

689
00:24:58,638 --> 00:24:59,357
they're afraid.

690
00:24:59,996 --> 00:25:00,496
And

691
00:25:00,968 --> 00:25:03,201
if you will step... If you feel genuine,

692
00:25:03,361 --> 00:25:06,073
like, I knew I was in that place

693
00:25:06,073 --> 00:25:08,545
for a reason. I knew that everything was

694
00:25:08,545 --> 00:25:10,141
happening for a reason. Mh.

695
00:25:10,872 --> 00:25:11,372
And

696
00:25:12,144 --> 00:25:15,163
when you recognize that and then you respond,

697
00:25:15,561 --> 00:25:17,865
this is what I came to a hundred

698
00:25:17,865 --> 00:25:19,057
plus percent believe.

699
00:25:19,708 --> 00:25:21,481
Is that there is literally

700
00:25:21,856 --> 00:25:25,039
nothing going on here, but love. Mh. And

701
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,244
anything else you experience, you bring it in

702
00:25:28,714 --> 00:25:30,544
through, and I'm gonna say this because not

703
00:25:30,544 --> 00:25:32,852
many people understand this, so you can ask

704
00:25:32,852 --> 00:25:35,421
me if this doesn't make sense. But basically,

705
00:25:36,288 --> 00:25:39,568
once you understand that you are imagining

706
00:25:40,021 --> 00:25:40,521
everything

707
00:25:40,974 --> 00:25:44,230
into reality. So I didn't imagine these guys,

708
00:25:44,484 --> 00:25:45,996
picking me up and taking me into the

709
00:25:45,996 --> 00:25:46,894
country. But

710
00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:47,769
I

711
00:25:49,259 --> 00:25:50,714
I had a stronger

712
00:25:51,408 --> 00:25:54,205
imagination, picking that I would be protected no

713
00:25:54,205 --> 00:25:56,828
matter what. Mh. Right? I wasn't in a

714
00:25:56,828 --> 00:25:58,417
state of mind that was like, oh my

715
00:25:58,417 --> 00:25:59,848
gosh. And I'm so scared. I wasn't like

716
00:25:59,848 --> 00:26:01,613
that. I was like, no. I am not

717
00:26:01,613 --> 00:26:03,127
a victim. I will... You know what I

718
00:26:03,127 --> 00:26:04,902
mean? I this really strong

719
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:06,974
energy around that. Absolutely.

720
00:26:07,351 --> 00:26:10,390
Mh. I resonate with that. I absolutely resonate

721
00:26:10,390 --> 00:26:11,661
with that. I wanna... I have to interject.

722
00:26:11,820 --> 00:26:13,114
Oh my god, this is such a great

723
00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:14,996
conversation. So many directions, and I know you've

724
00:26:14,996 --> 00:26:15,496
worked

725
00:26:16,822 --> 00:26:19,720
with... This idea of a, really using

726
00:26:20,173 --> 00:26:22,317
imagination to bring things into station. I wanna

727
00:26:22,317 --> 00:26:24,700
get into that. I wanna touch on, a

728
00:26:24,779 --> 00:26:27,265
French philosophy by the name of Honorary Cor,

729
00:26:27,824 --> 00:26:31,016
who talked about the mag no realm as

730
00:26:31,016 --> 00:26:33,625
opposed to imaginary area, Imagine he believed was

731
00:26:34,063 --> 00:26:35,360
dimension that we can literally

732
00:26:36,055 --> 00:26:37,033
procure from

733
00:26:37,569 --> 00:26:39,504
to create to bring into

734
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:41,076
this third density,

735
00:26:41,649 --> 00:26:43,643
to create different scenarios. I mean, this is

736
00:26:43,643 --> 00:26:45,876
really perennial philosophy, and it's something that I

737
00:26:45,956 --> 00:26:47,232
I think that you do. I I agree

738
00:26:47,232 --> 00:26:48,827
with you a hundred percent, but continue.

739
00:26:50,103 --> 00:26:51,002
Okay. So

740
00:26:53,150 --> 00:26:56,102
I very quickly because I think what happens

741
00:26:56,102 --> 00:26:58,256
is that is that when you're willing,

742
00:26:58,749 --> 00:27:01,323
to be in a state of mind

743
00:27:01,780 --> 00:27:02,976
that is about love.

744
00:27:03,774 --> 00:27:05,311
You get more opportunities

745
00:27:05,688 --> 00:27:07,204
to see these things happen.

746
00:27:07,762 --> 00:27:08,262
And

747
00:27:10,166 --> 00:27:12,178
So what happened... Was after

748
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:14,383
I was in Florida,

749
00:27:15,258 --> 00:27:17,167
I actually went to acting school in London.

750
00:27:17,819 --> 00:27:19,574
And I came back and I went to

751
00:27:19,893 --> 00:27:21,568
Minneapolis, and I got a job at the

752
00:27:21,648 --> 00:27:24,519
Gut theater as a as an actress and

753
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:26,774
singer. And I was very

754
00:27:27,151 --> 00:27:30,785
good belt it out singer. Right? So... And

755
00:27:31,485 --> 00:27:32,605
and I went with

756
00:27:33,164 --> 00:27:35,085
some of my friends to it. They they

757
00:27:35,085 --> 00:27:36,525
were going to a gay bar and they're,

758
00:27:36,605 --> 00:27:38,853
like, come with us, so I went, and

759
00:27:38,853 --> 00:27:41,344
it was this building where you couldn't tell

760
00:27:41,402 --> 00:27:43,074
that it was a bar. It was... It

761
00:27:43,074 --> 00:27:44,826
looked like a deserted building. So you've had

762
00:27:44,826 --> 00:27:47,153
to know it was there. And And so

763
00:27:47,153 --> 00:27:48,509
we went in and we danced, and we

764
00:27:48,509 --> 00:27:48,828
left in.

765
00:27:49,626 --> 00:27:50,663
I was with 4 of them,

766
00:27:51,302 --> 00:27:53,616
but it was 20 below 0, and it

767
00:27:53,616 --> 00:27:54,069
was

768
00:27:54,825 --> 00:27:56,437
Minnesota in January.

769
00:27:57,367 --> 00:28:01,364
And so I'm hustling down the the sidewalk

770
00:28:01,579 --> 00:28:02,930
ahead of them, and I'm about a half

771
00:28:02,930 --> 00:28:04,699
of block ahead, and the 4 of them

772
00:28:04,699 --> 00:28:06,532
are just, you know, chatting and walking along.

773
00:28:06,930 --> 00:28:09,322
I come around the corner and a black

774
00:28:09,322 --> 00:28:11,808
man and man and 2 Indians come out

775
00:28:11,808 --> 00:28:13,722
of a doorway and the black man headache,

776
00:28:14,361 --> 00:28:15,716
a knife in his hand and he goes,

777
00:28:15,876 --> 00:28:17,631
I'm gonna cut your throat white bitch, and

778
00:28:17,710 --> 00:28:20,343
I went, but b who knows That something

779
00:28:20,343 --> 00:28:22,749
do any day. And that was my response.

780
00:28:23,307 --> 00:28:24,822
That was my response.

781
00:28:25,699 --> 00:28:27,213
Never occurred to me to be a victim.

782
00:28:27,373 --> 00:28:29,939
And I'm dancing down the sidewalk, and and

783
00:28:30,098 --> 00:28:31,373
I literally heard this guy go.

784
00:28:32,090 --> 00:28:33,228
She. Like

785
00:28:33,684 --> 00:28:34,503
I'm dancing.

786
00:28:35,677 --> 00:28:37,431
That I don't know if they're behind me,

787
00:28:37,844 --> 00:28:40,309
So I'm dancing. I'm singing. I get to

788
00:28:40,309 --> 00:28:41,821
the end of the block. I turn around,

789
00:28:42,218 --> 00:28:44,127
and here are these 3 men, So they're

790
00:28:44,127 --> 00:28:47,164
standing like this facing me. So my 4

791
00:28:47,164 --> 00:28:49,706
friends are like this standing right behind them,

792
00:28:49,945 --> 00:28:51,454
and I don't think they even knew that

793
00:28:51,454 --> 00:28:53,917
my friends were standing there. I turned around

794
00:28:53,917 --> 00:28:54,394
and I go,

795
00:28:55,204 --> 00:28:57,281
Are you guys coming? Come on, You know?

796
00:28:57,921 --> 00:29:00,397
And the 3 of them moved aside and

797
00:29:00,397 --> 00:29:01,675
my friends walked right through.

798
00:29:03,524 --> 00:29:05,596
Now, at this point, I knew I was

799
00:29:05,596 --> 00:29:07,507
on to something. I knew it. I was

800
00:29:07,507 --> 00:29:07,666
like...

801
00:29:09,020 --> 00:29:10,614
How long were you at this point, Catherine.

802
00:29:10,852 --> 00:29:13,500
How old were you? I was 21.

803
00:29:13,819 --> 00:29:15,735
So all of these things that you're telling

804
00:29:15,735 --> 00:29:17,331
has happened in the span of about 3

805
00:29:17,331 --> 00:29:17,730
years?

806
00:29:18,369 --> 00:29:19,986
Yeah. And so

807
00:29:20,299 --> 00:29:23,093
but it it it happened again because I

808
00:29:23,093 --> 00:29:25,168
moved from Minneapolis to Chicago.

809
00:29:26,205 --> 00:29:27,562
And this time, I was on the north

810
00:29:27,562 --> 00:29:28,361
side of Chicago,

811
00:29:28,934 --> 00:29:30,928
It was just tiny street. It was weird.

812
00:29:31,088 --> 00:29:33,161
It it like, there were no people on

813
00:29:33,161 --> 00:29:34,597
the street. It was 7PM.

814
00:29:35,235 --> 00:29:37,788
Nobody was on the street, pitch black. No

815
00:29:37,788 --> 00:29:39,157
shops were open. Now nothing.

816
00:29:40,112 --> 00:29:42,498
And if Slack Man is walking across the

817
00:29:42,498 --> 00:29:43,873
street from being backwards,

818
00:29:44,248 --> 00:29:46,252
and I'm wearing a mint cup it was

819
00:29:46,252 --> 00:29:48,002
a hundred dollars at a resale shop, but

820
00:29:48,002 --> 00:29:49,196
it looked great in the dark, You know,

821
00:29:49,594 --> 00:29:52,299
he's walking backwards and I'm, like, I know

822
00:29:52,299 --> 00:29:54,226
what to do. I start singing, and I'm

823
00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:56,140
going to match maker match maker make me

824
00:29:56,140 --> 00:29:57,576
a match, and I'm going around the corner

825
00:29:57,576 --> 00:29:59,490
but Heather. You picked the wrong song. I

826
00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:02,282
can't believe you did that. So I'm dancing

827
00:30:02,282 --> 00:30:04,443
down the street. Again, I turn around he's

828
00:30:04,443 --> 00:30:04,761
gone.

829
00:30:05,396 --> 00:30:07,801
And now I have this incredible

830
00:30:08,333 --> 00:30:08,833
knowledge

831
00:30:09,682 --> 00:30:12,484
that. And I am untouchable, and I'll tell

832
00:30:12,484 --> 00:30:13,223
you why

833
00:30:13,601 --> 00:30:14,101
because

834
00:30:14,717 --> 00:30:15,217
I

835
00:30:15,595 --> 00:30:17,908
refuse to see myself as a victim and

836
00:30:17,908 --> 00:30:21,113
think about it. Don't victims always act like

837
00:30:21,113 --> 00:30:25,101
victims. Absolutely. Right. If I went to, you

838
00:30:25,101 --> 00:30:27,254
know, be in a in a Tv show,

839
00:30:27,494 --> 00:30:28,770
and I'm supposed to be a victim, and

840
00:30:28,850 --> 00:30:30,365
I did that they go I'm sorry. You

841
00:30:30,365 --> 00:30:31,812
gotta go And I, like, do. But this

842
00:30:31,812 --> 00:30:32,210
really works.

843
00:30:33,642 --> 00:30:35,631
I think you're on something, Heather, But I

844
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:37,460
I have to ask this question. It's unavoidable

845
00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:39,857
Go okay. And I don't know whether they

846
00:30:39,857 --> 00:30:40,730
say that there... There's,

847
00:30:41,445 --> 00:30:43,986
no, such thing as coincidence. I believe that

848
00:30:43,986 --> 00:30:46,209
sync is a very real phenomenon. However,

849
00:30:46,939 --> 00:30:49,486
you've given us at this point. 123,

850
00:30:49,645 --> 00:30:52,373
maybe 4 scenarios, all of them very

851
00:30:52,908 --> 00:30:55,694
dramatic that could have, ended with with dire

852
00:30:55,694 --> 00:30:56,194
consequences.

853
00:30:58,095 --> 00:30:58,595
Why

854
00:30:59,049 --> 00:31:00,900
were in every case

855
00:31:01,513 --> 00:31:02,728
an African American

856
00:31:03,182 --> 00:31:04,216
male involved?

857
00:31:04,629 --> 00:31:05,267
Do you think?

858
00:31:05,905 --> 00:31:07,740
I have... And I don't say black america...

859
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,213
I mean, African American because I lived in

860
00:31:10,373 --> 00:31:12,860
London and And, you know, there are a

861
00:31:12,860 --> 00:31:14,694
lot of people who are not African Americans,

862
00:31:14,853 --> 00:31:17,006
and that's why I say black as opposed

863
00:31:17,006 --> 00:31:18,600
to, you know like Well... I'm just using

864
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:20,769
that for colloquially Yeah. But I 1 of

865
00:31:20,769 --> 00:31:22,926
color. That... But you know... Yeah. Yeah. But,

866
00:31:23,007 --> 00:31:26,283
you know, what's really interesting is and and

867
00:31:26,283 --> 00:31:28,441
maybe you have some thoughts about this.

868
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,645
So my daughter and I, she's 27 now.

869
00:31:31,884 --> 00:31:33,955
We were we were thinking about this. We

870
00:31:33,955 --> 00:31:36,185
have some of our best friends a friend

871
00:31:36,185 --> 00:31:36,823
in Bali,

872
00:31:37,779 --> 00:31:39,945
my friend who I... Told you about who

873
00:31:39,945 --> 00:31:42,017
his name is Leo. He and he was

874
00:31:42,017 --> 00:31:42,517
in

875
00:31:43,452 --> 00:31:44,727
the show that I was in

876
00:31:45,444 --> 00:31:46,342
the Love Island

877
00:31:46,814 --> 00:31:47,473
I was

878
00:31:48,726 --> 00:31:49,784
the astro

879
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,949
I was doing couples astrology on the show.

880
00:31:54,316 --> 00:31:57,250
Now, Leo black he, he's an amazing guy

881
00:31:57,250 --> 00:31:59,231
and we have been friends all this time

882
00:31:59,231 --> 00:32:01,055
for 18 years we're still friends.

883
00:32:01,863 --> 00:32:03,771
And my daughter and I were like,

884
00:32:04,566 --> 00:32:06,656
you know, there... It's interesting

885
00:32:07,030 --> 00:32:07,530
that

886
00:32:07,984 --> 00:32:09,813
these and and and our other friend who

887
00:32:09,813 --> 00:32:11,579
is also black and Bali.

888
00:32:13,097 --> 00:32:15,494
They are 2 of our closest friends, and

889
00:32:15,494 --> 00:32:17,172
then we have another friend Kevin and and

890
00:32:17,172 --> 00:32:18,790
they're... And I'm like, I'm

891
00:32:19,423 --> 00:32:21,987
What is it that these men are so

892
00:32:22,122 --> 00:32:22,622
interested

893
00:32:23,234 --> 00:32:25,219
at such a deep level? Because as you

894
00:32:25,219 --> 00:32:27,998
can imagine, I don't talk about meta physics

895
00:32:27,998 --> 00:32:30,560
on a, surface level. And I get down

896
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:31,993
to it with people. And I go, this

897
00:32:31,993 --> 00:32:33,666
is how you solve the problem and this

898
00:32:33,666 --> 00:32:36,055
is... And they were, like, really, how do

899
00:32:36,055 --> 00:32:38,142
you do that? And that's I became friends

900
00:32:38,142 --> 00:32:40,375
with Leo Now he 20 years younger than

901
00:32:40,455 --> 00:32:42,289
I am. And he was this, you know,

902
00:32:42,528 --> 00:32:44,762
hot guy and all these hot girls he

903
00:32:44,762 --> 00:32:46,357
got kicked off the show. We happened to

904
00:32:46,357 --> 00:32:48,286
meet in the hotel. And the minute, I

905
00:32:48,286 --> 00:32:50,998
started telling him about his astrology and and

906
00:32:50,998 --> 00:32:54,109
about himself. He was all ears. And there

907
00:32:54,109 --> 00:32:56,103
were people trying to save him from me.

908
00:32:56,262 --> 00:32:58,273
I kid you not, like, the producer guys,

909
00:32:58,513 --> 00:33:00,670
are you okay up? Like, is this woman

910
00:33:00,670 --> 00:33:03,066
bothering. You know what is I like look

911
00:33:03,066 --> 00:33:05,238
and handle things. Don't worry but and we

912
00:33:05,238 --> 00:33:07,234
went... Like, he would take me places with

913
00:33:07,234 --> 00:33:08,671
him and have these, like,

914
00:33:09,389 --> 00:33:11,624
you know, moments where, for instance, I'll just

915
00:33:11,624 --> 00:33:13,380
give you an example about, and I'm talking

916
00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:15,941
about this. Open minded. This is what I

917
00:33:15,941 --> 00:33:18,882
found. And I haven't found other men who...

918
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:21,902
I've come across that had this interest, including

919
00:33:21,902 --> 00:33:23,904
my own husband. He was like, give me

920
00:33:23,904 --> 00:33:25,734
5 minutes and then, okay, Babe... I gotta

921
00:33:25,734 --> 00:33:27,563
go take a nap. You know? But these

922
00:33:27,563 --> 00:33:29,631
guys were, like, this is awesome. We want

923
00:33:29,631 --> 00:33:32,751
to understand this. Right? It's Yeah. And I'll

924
00:33:32,751 --> 00:33:34,346
tell you more about Leo some other time.

925
00:33:34,506 --> 00:33:36,899
But but he was like that he he

926
00:33:36,899 --> 00:33:39,052
was all about whatever I had to say

927
00:33:39,052 --> 00:33:41,467
he wanted to know, and he would implement

928
00:33:41,779 --> 00:33:42,335
on the spot.

929
00:33:42,971 --> 00:33:44,561
Okay. I will give you this example. Okay?

930
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,026
Because he'll help everybody. So he's telling me

931
00:33:47,026 --> 00:33:47,502
in the car,

932
00:33:48,297 --> 00:33:50,701
he's saying Heather on my my

933
00:33:51,179 --> 00:33:51,679
manager,

934
00:33:53,572 --> 00:33:54,768
I think would... But, you know, for being

935
00:33:54,768 --> 00:33:56,124
it... He was an actor and all the...

936
00:33:56,203 --> 00:33:57,958
And he was in he was in music.

937
00:33:59,727 --> 00:34:02,439
And he said, my manager wants me to

938
00:34:02,439 --> 00:34:03,338
come back

939
00:34:03,954 --> 00:34:06,984
to to the Uk to audition for something

940
00:34:06,984 --> 00:34:08,260
and do do whatever.

941
00:34:09,074 --> 00:34:10,752
And and it wasn't an addition. Was something

942
00:34:10,752 --> 00:34:12,431
he was actually gonna be hired to do.

943
00:34:13,150 --> 00:34:13,650
But

944
00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:16,427
the show had come up with something really

945
00:34:16,427 --> 00:34:18,480
funny for Leo to do because he is

946
00:34:18,999 --> 00:34:19,398
hilarious.

947
00:34:19,878 --> 00:34:21,715
And so they they had this kind of

948
00:34:21,715 --> 00:34:23,553
show that was going on on the side

949
00:34:23,553 --> 00:34:25,471
even though he'd been kicked off the island

950
00:34:25,471 --> 00:34:27,162
and he said, don't know what to do

951
00:34:27,242 --> 00:34:29,156
And he's completely stressing out about it, and

952
00:34:29,235 --> 00:34:29,794
I said Leo,

953
00:34:30,432 --> 00:34:32,905
Let me ask you something. I said, what

954
00:34:32,905 --> 00:34:34,101
do you want to do? He goes, well,

955
00:34:34,260 --> 00:34:36,989
I want stay, and I said, okay. So

956
00:34:36,989 --> 00:34:38,670
if you don't go back, what's gonna happen?

957
00:34:38,829 --> 00:34:40,829
He goes, I, I said, are you gonna

958
00:34:40,829 --> 00:34:42,349
are you gonna get in trouble? I... Are

959
00:34:42,349 --> 00:34:44,445
they gonna fire you. Are know, I laid

960
00:34:44,445 --> 00:34:46,045
all these scenarios with the no no. And

961
00:34:46,045 --> 00:34:47,484
they said, well, then just stay. He's like,

962
00:34:48,684 --> 00:34:51,335
my gosh. Yes. I'm staying. You Like that?

963
00:34:51,574 --> 00:34:53,719
And it was just instant and he... When

964
00:34:53,799 --> 00:34:55,786
I talked to him the other day. So

965
00:34:55,786 --> 00:34:57,375
18 years later, he told me he says

966
00:34:57,534 --> 00:34:59,442
I have remembered that for 18 years.

967
00:35:00,250 --> 00:35:01,679
How much of an impression it made on

968
00:35:01,679 --> 00:35:02,893
me. So

969
00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:07,494
I don't know why color was involved, but

970
00:35:07,550 --> 00:35:10,032
the point that I saw was it never

971
00:35:10,032 --> 00:35:12,661
changed my love of people. It never could've

972
00:35:12,661 --> 00:35:14,414
been a test. We don't know. It's just

973
00:35:14,414 --> 00:35:17,771
an interesting... Continuity. And that it doesn't necessarily

974
00:35:17,771 --> 00:35:18,965
need to be a sticking point, But if

975
00:35:18,965 --> 00:35:21,431
you look at everything that happens in one's

976
00:35:21,431 --> 00:35:23,760
life, nuance, or specific,

977
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:25,599
and you see a pattern.

978
00:35:26,079 --> 00:35:27,679
It would make me want to look into

979
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:29,280
that a little deeper, but perhaps you have

980
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:29,679
the answer.

981
00:35:30,334 --> 00:35:32,567
Listen. We have a finite period of time

982
00:35:32,567 --> 00:35:34,401
and a lot still to get in my

983
00:35:34,401 --> 00:35:36,714
friend. So what I wanna do, I wanna

984
00:35:36,714 --> 00:35:39,107
go back to a very specific point you

985
00:35:39,107 --> 00:35:40,876
made at the top of our episode. Where

986
00:35:40,876 --> 00:35:43,748
you made a very affirmative statement about what

987
00:35:43,748 --> 00:35:46,141
we know as the near death experience or

988
00:35:46,220 --> 00:35:48,135
N nd. And now when you and I

989
00:35:48,135 --> 00:35:50,224
had a conversation about a week ago, you

990
00:35:50,224 --> 00:35:52,242
made that a a very, very strong

991
00:35:52,701 --> 00:35:55,578
argument or sticking point in terms of what

992
00:35:55,578 --> 00:35:57,735
denote a near death experience,

993
00:35:58,229 --> 00:36:01,253
versus and after death experience. I wanted to

994
00:36:01,253 --> 00:36:03,083
talk about that a little bit as it

995
00:36:03,083 --> 00:36:05,152
relates. I know you touched on it having

996
00:36:05,152 --> 00:36:06,266
to deal with both your,

997
00:36:06,902 --> 00:36:07,402
Texas

998
00:36:07,793 --> 00:36:10,445
kidnapping experience as well as the near drowning

999
00:36:10,503 --> 00:36:12,177
experience. But go ahead and make that j

1000
00:36:12,177 --> 00:36:14,170
to position for us and draw a nexus

1001
00:36:14,170 --> 00:36:16,253
if you will or a distinction, I loved

1002
00:36:16,253 --> 00:36:17,522
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1003
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Well, I I actually I actually limited to

1053
00:38:29,155 --> 00:38:31,795
chat Gp this morning and had a big

1054
00:38:31,795 --> 00:38:32,295
long

1055
00:38:32,594 --> 00:38:34,275
conversation about this. Don't you just love chat

1056
00:38:34,355 --> 00:38:37,566
Gp I launched That Oh my gosh. And

1057
00:38:37,566 --> 00:38:40,043
so basically, what I talked about was I

1058
00:38:40,043 --> 00:38:43,340
said, so I'm talking about science and you

1059
00:38:43,494 --> 00:38:45,255
I've heard you talked before, and I know

1060
00:38:45,255 --> 00:38:46,954
that you feel free to

1061
00:38:47,335 --> 00:38:49,735
fill in any scientific words because I kinda

1062
00:38:49,735 --> 00:38:50,715
go. I

1063
00:38:51,494 --> 00:38:51,994
Basically,

1064
00:38:52,549 --> 00:38:54,007
What I said was

1065
00:38:54,623 --> 00:38:56,698
why did they call it near dust? And

1066
00:38:56,698 --> 00:38:58,294
it had this kind of blah blah blah

1067
00:38:58,294 --> 00:38:59,864
reason? I said, but wait a minute. What

1068
00:39:00,063 --> 00:39:03,009
This isn't near death, these are people who

1069
00:39:03,009 --> 00:39:04,840
have died. They are dead.

1070
00:39:05,477 --> 00:39:07,706
So isn't that term inaccurate.

1071
00:39:08,279 --> 00:39:10,117
And chat Said yes, it is.

1072
00:39:10,916 --> 00:39:13,314
And so I said, what what would you

1073
00:39:13,314 --> 00:39:14,373
call it? And basically,

1074
00:39:15,391 --> 00:39:16,451
here's what happens

1075
00:39:17,958 --> 00:39:19,943
they are... So... Okay.

1076
00:39:20,817 --> 00:39:23,279
Such, this is such a big topic. You're

1077
00:39:23,279 --> 00:39:24,550
gonna have to rain me in, but let

1078
00:39:24,550 --> 00:39:26,473
me just try to... That's okay. I'll you

1079
00:39:26,473 --> 00:39:27,029
when come on.

1080
00:39:28,143 --> 00:39:29,733
Go ahead, Heather. Go. Go.

1081
00:39:30,289 --> 00:39:32,675
No. Here's what... Here's what... Here's the only

1082
00:39:32,675 --> 00:39:34,527
thing that science can

1083
00:39:37,072 --> 00:39:37,572
study

1084
00:39:38,750 --> 00:39:39,250
is

1085
00:39:39,949 --> 00:39:43,225
stuff that they can prove the existence of

1086
00:39:43,225 --> 00:39:43,725
it

1087
00:39:44,119 --> 00:39:46,134
Now, this is a very interesting

1088
00:39:46,510 --> 00:39:47,489
issue for them

1089
00:39:47,866 --> 00:39:48,366
because

1090
00:39:49,541 --> 00:39:52,672
they cannot prove the existence of consciousness.

1091
00:39:53,381 --> 00:39:53,619
Right.

1092
00:39:54,253 --> 00:39:55,546
Okay? So

1093
00:39:56,869 --> 00:39:59,272
so now that means they cannot

1094
00:40:00,041 --> 00:40:00,358
study.

1095
00:40:00,929 --> 00:40:04,598
Or disprove or proved anything that happens once

1096
00:40:04,598 --> 00:40:07,629
a person has died or even before they

1097
00:40:07,629 --> 00:40:09,884
die because it's in consciousness.

1098
00:40:10,261 --> 00:40:12,343
Right? So they can't talk about it.

1099
00:40:13,534 --> 00:40:15,281
So let's suppose,

1100
00:40:15,758 --> 00:40:16,973
and this is what we

1101
00:40:17,346 --> 00:40:19,888
cat Gp and I both got to eventually.

1102
00:40:21,253 --> 00:40:24,268
Let's suppose that in the seventies, and wait...

1103
00:40:24,666 --> 00:40:26,412
Don't be about to oppose this part. I'm

1104
00:40:26,412 --> 00:40:28,476
telling you I was there, so I remembered

1105
00:40:28,476 --> 00:40:28,713
this.

1106
00:40:29,524 --> 00:40:31,141
There was this huge

1107
00:40:32,715 --> 00:40:34,013
opening around

1108
00:40:35,029 --> 00:40:37,916
people having the experience... Of dying and what

1109
00:40:37,916 --> 00:40:40,470
happened. Right? Every... So many people wanted to

1110
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:43,183
know. And a lot of people were getting

1111
00:40:43,183 --> 00:40:45,748
away from religion, of but this was a

1112
00:40:45,748 --> 00:40:48,534
new area that people were like, wow. I

1113
00:40:48,534 --> 00:40:49,807
wanna know more about this.

1114
00:40:50,682 --> 00:40:52,369
Well, in the mid eighties, but all of

1115
00:40:52,369 --> 00:40:55,020
a sudden it becomes called a near death

1116
00:40:55,237 --> 00:40:58,025
experience. Now the company line would be,

1117
00:40:58,742 --> 00:40:59,141
well,

1118
00:40:59,635 --> 00:41:02,275
this the scientists wanted to study it, and

1119
00:41:02,275 --> 00:41:04,114
so they had to call it near death

1120
00:41:04,114 --> 00:41:06,355
and vetted it... But it's actually not true

1121
00:41:06,355 --> 00:41:08,923
because when I talked to Gp. I said,

1122
00:41:09,003 --> 00:41:11,493
well, what would you call this? Because basically,

1123
00:41:11,710 --> 00:41:13,938
what they can study is they study the

1124
00:41:13,938 --> 00:41:14,438
brain

1125
00:41:14,813 --> 00:41:16,326
up to, you know, and movement got brain

1126
00:41:16,326 --> 00:41:18,410
chemistry going on. Right? It can study the

1127
00:41:18,410 --> 00:41:19,842
brain up to the moment of death,

1128
00:41:20,797 --> 00:41:23,128
then they can study the brain

1129
00:41:23,901 --> 00:41:24,401
after

1130
00:41:25,268 --> 00:41:27,653
and what did they call it revival. So

1131
00:41:27,653 --> 00:41:29,958
that's what Gp said. So we have death,

1132
00:41:30,356 --> 00:41:32,582
and then we have revival. So up to

1133
00:41:32,582 --> 00:41:35,065
death, And then after revival, they can study

1134
00:41:35,065 --> 00:41:38,012
the brain. But they never are able to

1135
00:41:38,012 --> 00:41:40,481
look at the experience, but what they can

1136
00:41:40,481 --> 00:41:41,436
do instead.

1137
00:41:42,009 --> 00:41:44,315
And I believe most likely this was to

1138
00:41:44,315 --> 00:41:45,134
take people's

1139
00:41:45,509 --> 00:41:48,690
attention off of what is reality really.

1140
00:41:49,105 --> 00:41:51,265
Wow. And what and what is God. Now

1141
00:41:51,265 --> 00:41:54,144
notice this when people are having... When they

1142
00:41:54,144 --> 00:41:54,945
talk about...

1143
00:41:56,797 --> 00:41:59,748
I'm gonna call it a life after death

1144
00:41:59,748 --> 00:42:01,581
experience. I refused to call it an N

1145
00:42:01,581 --> 00:42:03,894
nd and learn didn't die. Okay?

1146
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:09,101
How many people have you heard who come

1147
00:42:09,316 --> 00:42:11,699
who either didn't believe in God or they

1148
00:42:11,699 --> 00:42:13,685
didn't have a good relationship with God or

1149
00:42:13,685 --> 00:42:15,215
they thought they had a good relationship with

1150
00:42:15,295 --> 00:42:17,927
God. But now they're talking about God. And

1151
00:42:17,927 --> 00:42:19,523
you know how how God is 1 of

1152
00:42:19,523 --> 00:42:21,118
those things like, We don't talk about God.

1153
00:42:21,277 --> 00:42:22,872
We have to find another word, you know?

1154
00:42:23,351 --> 00:42:23,804
And

1155
00:42:24,242 --> 00:42:25,831
and I have had... You know, do you

1156
00:42:25,831 --> 00:42:27,581
wanna call it the universe, I don't care.

1157
00:42:28,137 --> 00:42:31,499
But what I know is how these people

1158
00:42:31,555 --> 00:42:33,066
will just say God.

1159
00:42:33,558 --> 00:42:36,666
Right. God, Jesus, you name it, They felt

1160
00:42:36,666 --> 00:42:39,773
it, and and they're talking about this. Right?

1161
00:42:40,981 --> 00:42:41,219
Now,

1162
00:42:42,250 --> 00:42:45,342
what science did by making it a near

1163
00:42:45,342 --> 00:42:47,482
death experience I saying, well, you couldn't have

1164
00:42:47,482 --> 00:42:47,799
died.

1165
00:42:48,689 --> 00:42:49,747
Right? Isn't that

1166
00:42:50,125 --> 00:42:53,077
otherwise, it wouldn't be near death. So they're

1167
00:42:53,077 --> 00:42:55,630
basically saying this person didn't really die.

1168
00:42:56,363 --> 00:42:58,118
We're gonna tell you the chemistry that was

1169
00:42:58,118 --> 00:43:00,830
going on in their brain, and it's just

1170
00:43:00,830 --> 00:43:03,223
going well, and it kinda the chemistry caused

1171
00:43:03,223 --> 00:43:05,296
them to have this experience, but they didn't

1172
00:43:05,296 --> 00:43:05,615
die.

1173
00:43:06,507 --> 00:43:06,745
Right?

1174
00:43:08,495 --> 00:43:11,620
Okay? And so it takes away

1175
00:43:12,234 --> 00:43:14,461
this experience that they've had.

1176
00:43:15,034 --> 00:43:17,692
By making it into something

1177
00:43:18,471 --> 00:43:21,667
quantifiable. They're, well. It isn't real, but let

1178
00:43:21,667 --> 00:43:23,685
me explain something about science

1179
00:43:24,238 --> 00:43:25,745
and I've just been learning this in the

1180
00:43:25,745 --> 00:43:26,459
last few weeks.

1181
00:43:27,807 --> 00:43:30,266
Science does not believe in god,

1182
00:43:31,139 --> 00:43:31,456
love,

1183
00:43:33,541 --> 00:43:33,781
imagination,

1184
00:43:35,696 --> 00:43:38,728
right anything that makes us human, they don't

1185
00:43:38,728 --> 00:43:40,106
believe in it. And so

1186
00:43:40,499 --> 00:43:44,035
They literally sidestep it, and they call anything,

1187
00:43:44,414 --> 00:43:46,511
this is called the forbidden question

1188
00:43:47,130 --> 00:43:49,377
is the question about, well, how can you

1189
00:43:49,377 --> 00:43:50,514
use your consciousness

1190
00:43:51,289 --> 00:43:54,259
to study something and then denied that consciousness

1191
00:43:54,795 --> 00:43:56,229
exists because you're studying...

1192
00:43:57,519 --> 00:43:58,715
I can tell you, Heather,

1193
00:43:59,992 --> 00:44:01,587
an interview that I did with a gentleman

1194
00:44:01,587 --> 00:44:04,320
you may know, Her. Who is a physicist

1195
00:44:04,378 --> 00:44:06,851
peer reviewed, his written peer reviewed papers, etcetera.

1196
00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:09,818
And we had a conversation, Gosh 4 or

1197
00:44:09,818 --> 00:44:11,734
5 years ago on location in Los Angeles

1198
00:44:11,734 --> 00:44:13,410
in which we were talking about consciousness,

1199
00:44:14,208 --> 00:44:14,766
having to do with,

1200
00:44:15,644 --> 00:44:17,806
and we were talking about, people that have

1201
00:44:17,806 --> 00:44:19,952
had serious brain injuries, but we're still able

1202
00:44:19,952 --> 00:44:22,178
to function with very little gray matter in

1203
00:44:22,178 --> 00:44:25,462
the brain. Okay. Right. However, in that conversation,

1204
00:44:25,782 --> 00:44:28,259
he talked about, not so many years ago,

1205
00:44:28,498 --> 00:44:29,777
you could not go to,

1206
00:44:30,975 --> 00:44:33,469
a science conference and even bring up what

1207
00:44:33,469 --> 00:44:35,869
we call the c word without getting almost

1208
00:44:35,869 --> 00:44:36,510
kicked out.

1209
00:44:37,230 --> 00:44:38,930
So, you know, it's this

1210
00:44:39,390 --> 00:44:41,170
annihilation of even considering

1211
00:44:41,564 --> 00:44:43,396
of that consciousness is a factor in their

1212
00:44:43,396 --> 00:44:45,547
studies. You know, I think it's even deeper

1213
00:44:45,547 --> 00:44:46,822
than the fact that they don't believe in

1214
00:44:46,822 --> 00:44:48,416
it. They can't quantify it.

1215
00:44:49,228 --> 00:44:51,622
They they can't replicate it. First, they can't

1216
00:44:51,622 --> 00:44:53,139
define it, but they certainly can't replicate it.

1217
00:44:53,219 --> 00:44:54,836
And therefore, it's off the table

1218
00:44:55,213 --> 00:44:56,650
because they don't have the instruments to measure

1219
00:44:56,650 --> 00:44:58,743
it. So... Do you wanna jump do you

1220
00:44:58,743 --> 00:45:00,261
wanna jump a little deeper into this?

1221
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:03,138
Well, we've got a lot more to cover

1222
00:45:03,138 --> 00:45:04,976
and we're running short on time, my friend.

1223
00:45:05,296 --> 00:45:07,390
We're gonna have you back again though. How

1224
00:45:07,390 --> 00:45:08,590
about that? Okay.

1225
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:11,230
Because this... Listen, guys, and I'm talking to

1226
00:45:11,230 --> 00:45:12,429
my audience as well.

1227
00:45:13,390 --> 00:45:15,084
We've have gone down so many rabbit holds,

1228
00:45:15,324 --> 00:45:17,401
Heather, and it's just... It it really forgive

1229
00:45:17,401 --> 00:45:19,399
the cliche, but it is... It's an endless

1230
00:45:19,399 --> 00:45:21,956
and yet connected journey, all of the things

1231
00:45:21,956 --> 00:45:24,048
that we're talking about I wanna touch on

1232
00:45:24,048 --> 00:45:26,605
your ideas on simulation theory. And then I

1233
00:45:26,605 --> 00:45:28,602
also want to culminate in some of the

1234
00:45:28,602 --> 00:45:30,360
amazing work that you're doing with others.

1235
00:45:31,094 --> 00:45:33,655
Taking all this life experience with this brilliant

1236
00:45:33,655 --> 00:45:35,335
mind of yours and how you've been how

1237
00:45:35,335 --> 00:45:35,655
you've been,

1238
00:45:36,534 --> 00:45:38,375
helping others. So I'm gonna jump ahead a

1239
00:45:38,375 --> 00:45:39,710
little bit. I wanna K

1240
00:45:40,225 --> 00:45:42,130
actually wanna go into your ideas, because I

1241
00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:44,114
think we... This is a good segue to

1242
00:45:44,114 --> 00:45:47,130
talk about your thoughts on what we call

1243
00:45:47,130 --> 00:45:49,929
is simulated reality. Simulation theory. And I wanted

1244
00:45:49,929 --> 00:45:52,077
to tell you about this is perfect. That's

1245
00:45:52,077 --> 00:45:54,876
perfect. See there we go. Okay. Simulated I

1246
00:45:54,876 --> 00:45:58,157
was I was raised in Christian science, and

1247
00:45:58,532 --> 00:46:00,518
I left the religion, but as I said,

1248
00:46:00,678 --> 00:46:02,544
I was raised with this. Beautiful

1249
00:46:03,161 --> 00:46:05,736
understanding of God. But there were 2 things

1250
00:46:06,034 --> 00:46:08,748
that... So Mary Baker the women who wrote

1251
00:46:08,748 --> 00:46:11,079
this book called science and Health. Absolutely. It

1252
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:13,320
was published in 18 75.

1253
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,559
And in 18 75,

1254
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:16,539
she said

1255
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,119
there is no matter.

1256
00:46:18,854 --> 00:46:19,889
And there is no death.

1257
00:46:20,766 --> 00:46:21,005
Okay?

1258
00:46:21,722 --> 00:46:24,988
Now, she was a phenomenal healer and many

1259
00:46:24,988 --> 00:46:26,820
of her students were as well, and a

1260
00:46:26,820 --> 00:46:28,989
lot of people don't know this, but her

1261
00:46:28,989 --> 00:46:31,550
book became the second most popular book in

1262
00:46:31,550 --> 00:46:33,730
the world. It was second only

1263
00:46:34,030 --> 00:46:34,670
to the bible.

1264
00:46:35,230 --> 00:46:36,910
I'm familiar with it. I'm... It's on my

1265
00:46:36,910 --> 00:46:38,684
books shell because my father's Studied it. And

1266
00:46:38,844 --> 00:46:41,081
I I grew up learning about Mary Baker

1267
00:46:41,081 --> 00:46:43,158
at. Absolutely. Oh, we're gonna have fun. Okay.

1268
00:46:43,478 --> 00:46:43,978
So

1269
00:46:44,356 --> 00:46:45,235
so I...

1270
00:46:46,128 --> 00:46:48,195
Okay. I have to say, Hi throwing 1

1271
00:46:48,195 --> 00:46:49,547
thing. Really quick and then we'll get back

1272
00:46:49,547 --> 00:46:51,479
to this. But Eventually

1273
00:46:52,171 --> 00:46:55,693
really wanted young people to understand how

1274
00:46:56,004 --> 00:46:57,121
this world works.

1275
00:46:57,839 --> 00:46:59,116
And I thought the best way to do

1276
00:46:59,116 --> 00:47:00,951
it was to write a story, and so

1277
00:47:01,031 --> 00:47:01,430
I did,

1278
00:47:02,467 --> 00:47:02,967
and

1279
00:47:03,916 --> 00:47:04,630
In this

1280
00:47:05,186 --> 00:47:05,686
context,

1281
00:47:06,217 --> 00:47:08,836
earth is a virtual reality. You're born into

1282
00:47:08,836 --> 00:47:09,495
the program,

1283
00:47:10,423 --> 00:47:13,559
your body is your avatar, and your bio

1284
00:47:13,855 --> 00:47:16,105
computer. Now here's the piece

1285
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,026
that just came in, like, I was writing

1286
00:47:19,026 --> 00:47:21,827
this as a fun fictional story like, not

1287
00:47:21,827 --> 00:47:24,298
thinking I really didn't really understand. I've, like,

1288
00:47:24,458 --> 00:47:25,096
great idea.

1289
00:47:26,052 --> 00:47:28,205
And but here's how the binary code works

1290
00:47:28,205 --> 00:47:30,849
in a in a computer, it's zeros and

1291
00:47:30,849 --> 00:47:32,840
ones, right on and off on and off.

1292
00:47:33,556 --> 00:47:34,671
Well, in this story,

1293
00:47:35,547 --> 00:47:37,856
your body is your bio computer.

1294
00:47:38,668 --> 00:47:42,738
And the binary code is created by feelings

1295
00:47:42,738 --> 00:47:44,095
of love or fear.

1296
00:47:45,052 --> 00:47:45,871
And so

1297
00:47:46,344 --> 00:47:47,481
you are literally

1298
00:47:48,016 --> 00:47:51,122
seeing what you believe. And and and it

1299
00:47:51,122 --> 00:47:52,874
won't be like, like, when you dream, you

1300
00:47:52,874 --> 00:47:55,278
don't think what you're going to dream. But

1301
00:47:55,278 --> 00:47:57,505
there's no question that what you dream is

1302
00:47:57,505 --> 00:47:59,892
coming right up out of the subconscious because

1303
00:47:59,892 --> 00:48:00,869
you will recognize

1304
00:48:01,244 --> 00:48:03,730
that, oh, but I'm feeling fear in this

1305
00:48:03,730 --> 00:48:05,963
dream or I'm feeling happy in this tumor

1306
00:48:05,963 --> 00:48:07,558
or whatever it is, but but it's something

1307
00:48:07,558 --> 00:48:09,472
that you're familiar with. That's what you've been

1308
00:48:09,472 --> 00:48:10,270
feeling. Right?

1309
00:48:11,067 --> 00:48:11,887
And so

1310
00:48:12,995 --> 00:48:14,906
I didn't think much of it. I thought

1311
00:48:14,986 --> 00:48:17,136
I was really clever. And then when I'm

1312
00:48:17,136 --> 00:48:20,081
writing the story, I'm weaving in all these

1313
00:48:20,081 --> 00:48:23,197
quantum physics to make my point. And the

1314
00:48:23,197 --> 00:48:24,707
more I wrote the story I'm, like,

1315
00:48:25,502 --> 00:48:28,125
this isn't real. This is not real. I...

1316
00:48:28,284 --> 00:48:29,317
Meaning reality itself?

1317
00:48:30,127 --> 00:48:31,953
Itself. And so let me show you this.

1318
00:48:32,985 --> 00:48:34,834
Simulation theory add the berry

1319
00:48:35,605 --> 00:48:37,295
foundation believes this

1320
00:48:37,922 --> 00:48:40,627
they believe there is no matter.

1321
00:48:41,820 --> 00:48:44,365
They believe this is a simulation. They whom.

1322
00:48:44,779 --> 00:48:45,576
The the scientists,

1323
00:48:46,134 --> 00:48:48,286
that the people who believe simulation theory,

1324
00:48:48,764 --> 00:48:49,982
the the the very

1325
00:48:51,156 --> 00:48:52,214
foundation of it

1326
00:48:53,005 --> 00:48:54,303
that there is no matter

1327
00:48:54,762 --> 00:48:56,919
because it's a simulation. Do you do you

1328
00:48:56,919 --> 00:48:58,517
get that part of? Absolutely.

1329
00:48:59,076 --> 00:48:59,236
Okay.

1330
00:49:00,688 --> 00:49:01,188
And

1331
00:49:01,804 --> 00:49:03,556
so I'm really thinking about this.

1332
00:49:05,388 --> 00:49:05,888
And

1333
00:49:06,344 --> 00:49:08,995
I realized that Mary Bi eddie was basically

1334
00:49:09,132 --> 00:49:12,484
talking about simulation theory in 18 75.

1335
00:49:13,675 --> 00:49:15,342
Okay? Mh. But here's the thing.

1336
00:49:17,898 --> 00:49:19,808
Think about this is how you can understand

1337
00:49:19,808 --> 00:49:21,956
it. If you think about when you dream,

1338
00:49:22,672 --> 00:49:24,662
There is no question in your mind.

1339
00:49:25,632 --> 00:49:27,465
When you, you know, when you're in the

1340
00:49:27,465 --> 00:49:30,255
dream, you will believe it a hundred percent.

1341
00:49:30,892 --> 00:49:32,566
And I'm gonna tell you something that happened

1342
00:49:32,566 --> 00:49:34,334
to me only happened once, but it got

1343
00:49:34,334 --> 00:49:35,131
my full attention.

1344
00:49:35,928 --> 00:49:36,725
I fell asleep,

1345
00:49:37,522 --> 00:49:39,195
and I woke up right away in the

1346
00:49:39,195 --> 00:49:40,764
dream. I was in a little house. It

1347
00:49:40,884 --> 00:49:42,394
There was a table, and I walk up

1348
00:49:42,394 --> 00:49:44,780
to the table knowing for a fact, it's

1349
00:49:44,780 --> 00:49:47,403
not there. I know I'm dreaming. I know

1350
00:49:47,403 --> 00:49:48,539
it's in my consciousness.

1351
00:49:49,073 --> 00:49:50,917
I knock on the table. There and it

1352
00:49:50,917 --> 00:49:53,224
acts like a table. And I can't make

1353
00:49:53,224 --> 00:49:55,054
it not act like a table. And I

1354
00:49:55,054 --> 00:49:57,123
look underneath and everything is exactly the way

1355
00:49:57,123 --> 00:49:58,555
it should be, like, if you'd ask me

1356
00:49:58,555 --> 00:50:00,643
to describe it or and create a picture

1357
00:50:00,643 --> 00:50:02,881
of this table. I wouldn't have... I've been

1358
00:50:02,881 --> 00:50:04,239
like, well, I don't know. This might go

1359
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:05,757
here. Everything was perfect.

1360
00:50:06,237 --> 00:50:08,255
And when I woke up, I realized

1361
00:50:08,730 --> 00:50:11,550
you cannot tell the difference. You cannot

1362
00:50:11,849 --> 00:50:13,150
tell the difference

1363
00:50:13,769 --> 00:50:14,670
Between what is

1364
00:50:15,289 --> 00:50:16,489
between what is a dream?

1365
00:50:17,064 --> 00:50:18,843
U. And you're waking

1366
00:50:19,621 --> 00:50:22,039
reality. You can't tell the difference. The dream

1367
00:50:22,418 --> 00:50:24,175
functions exactly like you're waking.

1368
00:50:24,989 --> 00:50:26,266
I have to... This just came to me,

1369
00:50:26,426 --> 00:50:28,502
Heather. Oh my God. So much someone just

1370
00:50:28,502 --> 00:50:29,220
going on here.

1371
00:50:30,098 --> 00:50:32,333
There is AAA

1372
00:50:32,333 --> 00:50:34,345
quote by... I believe her name was... Joan

1373
00:50:34,425 --> 00:50:36,905
Boris Saint who wrote the bat bought book,

1374
00:50:38,585 --> 00:50:40,664
minding your body your mind, I believe,

1375
00:50:41,318 --> 00:50:43,309
In which she said the body does not

1376
00:50:43,309 --> 00:50:45,937
know the difference the body does not know

1377
00:50:45,937 --> 00:50:48,007
the difference between what is real and what

1378
00:50:48,007 --> 00:50:48,985
is imagined

1379
00:50:49,773 --> 00:50:52,628
Mh. That also has hallmarks of the same

1380
00:50:52,628 --> 00:50:54,636
thing that we're talking about, meaning

1381
00:50:55,326 --> 00:50:58,200
that what we're with how... What the body

1382
00:50:58,200 --> 00:50:59,574
is reacting to

1383
00:50:59,949 --> 00:51:02,175
almost proves that it's a simulation because there's

1384
00:51:02,175 --> 00:51:03,550
no distinction between

1385
00:51:04,083 --> 00:51:04,583
real

1386
00:51:04,958 --> 00:51:05,856
and imagined

1387
00:51:06,484 --> 00:51:09,297
Right? Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. So

1388
00:51:09,435 --> 00:51:09,935
so

1389
00:51:12,306 --> 00:51:13,981
if you can get your head around the

1390
00:51:13,981 --> 00:51:16,309
idea that this is not real. That what...

1391
00:51:16,548 --> 00:51:18,223
And and if you look at anything going

1392
00:51:18,223 --> 00:51:20,936
on in quantum physics, it's so clear. Like,

1393
00:51:21,096 --> 00:51:22,931
how could it be real, How could the

1394
00:51:22,931 --> 00:51:23,431
physical

1395
00:51:23,983 --> 00:51:26,078
reality be real. And then act

1396
00:51:27,413 --> 00:51:29,487
the way it does, you know, like, how

1397
00:51:29,487 --> 00:51:31,800
can 1... You know, you don't... You you

1398
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:32,996
probably know these things better than I do.

1399
00:51:33,155 --> 00:51:35,487
But the things that can happen like that

1400
00:51:35,487 --> 00:51:36,627
split test where

1401
00:51:37,805 --> 00:51:40,362
depending on whether... Experiment. Yeah. Yes. Yes. And

1402
00:51:40,362 --> 00:51:42,041
where it... The the...

1403
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:43,993
This the

1404
00:51:44,845 --> 00:51:46,834
I forget how to but they had to

1405
00:51:46,834 --> 00:51:48,902
do with waves and particles and whether it

1406
00:51:48,902 --> 00:51:50,016
would show up as a wave or a

1407
00:51:50,016 --> 00:51:52,726
part of Well wave particle duality is what

1408
00:51:52,726 --> 00:51:54,786
it is. Yeah. Perfect. Yeah. I knew you'd

1409
00:51:54,786 --> 00:51:55,896
be good at this. Thank you.

1410
00:51:58,614 --> 00:52:00,934
Yeah. But you've got... You you have the

1411
00:52:00,934 --> 00:52:03,015
gist bit. You absolutely do. Oh my god.

1412
00:52:03,175 --> 00:52:05,070
We gotta... We need to do a show

1413
00:52:05,268 --> 00:52:07,812
just dedicated on simulation theory. But I'm gonna

1414
00:52:07,812 --> 00:52:09,084
have you wind that up, and then I

1415
00:52:09,084 --> 00:52:10,912
wanna get into some of the work you're

1416
00:52:10,912 --> 00:52:12,741
doing as it relates to all this stuff.

1417
00:52:13,154 --> 00:52:14,371
Okay. So

1418
00:52:15,385 --> 00:52:15,885
so

1419
00:52:16,580 --> 00:52:16,819
anyhow,

1420
00:52:17,855 --> 00:52:20,086
1 thing I want to really explain, so

1421
00:52:20,086 --> 00:52:22,078
everyone can get the gist of this.

1422
00:52:23,610 --> 00:52:25,450
Imagine opinion you that you have... Like, if

1423
00:52:25,450 --> 00:52:27,130
you've had a sore throat or something, and

1424
00:52:27,130 --> 00:52:29,390
and notice that you imagine

1425
00:52:29,690 --> 00:52:30,809
what's going to happen.

1426
00:52:31,463 --> 00:52:33,936
Before it happens. So if you think you're

1427
00:52:33,936 --> 00:52:35,532
getting sick, you might go, oh, no. I'm

1428
00:52:35,532 --> 00:52:37,047
gonna get sick, I'll be in bed for

1429
00:52:37,047 --> 00:52:38,483
a week or whatever I'm gonna get it

1430
00:52:38,483 --> 00:52:40,796
cold. And someone else might go, oh, I'm

1431
00:52:40,796 --> 00:52:42,724
gonna some garlic, and this is that, and

1432
00:52:42,804 --> 00:52:44,819
I'll be fine by tomorrow. And each person

1433
00:52:45,036 --> 00:52:45,536
experiences

1434
00:52:46,073 --> 00:52:46,972
what they

1435
00:52:47,429 --> 00:52:51,527
imagined into reality. Yes. Okay? Hundred percent. So

1436
00:52:51,583 --> 00:52:53,748
so here's the thing. Quantum physics

1437
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,445
basically says everything is

1438
00:52:57,214 --> 00:53:00,087
is energy. And and if in 1 of

1439
00:53:00,087 --> 00:53:02,334
the easiest ways to recognize this

1440
00:53:03,105 --> 00:53:04,240
is that the only

1441
00:53:04,693 --> 00:53:06,996
solid part of the adam, so to speak

1442
00:53:06,996 --> 00:53:07,235
is...

1443
00:53:08,284 --> 00:53:10,844
The nucleus, and everything else is empty space

1444
00:53:10,844 --> 00:53:12,204
and then the electrons. Right?

1445
00:53:13,005 --> 00:53:13,244
And,

1446
00:53:14,684 --> 00:53:17,644
proportionately, the distance from the nucleus to the

1447
00:53:17,644 --> 00:53:19,176
electron funds is the same as from the

1448
00:53:19,176 --> 00:53:21,811
earth to the stars. Mh. Supposedly, but let's

1449
00:53:21,811 --> 00:53:23,668
just well with that. So

1450
00:53:24,365 --> 00:53:26,599
from what I understand, if you put together

1451
00:53:26,599 --> 00:53:28,920
funds all of the nucleus of all the

1452
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,351
human beings on the planet,

1453
00:53:30,907 --> 00:53:32,576
it's a size of for grain rice.

1454
00:53:33,291 --> 00:53:35,381
And if you put together all the nuclei

1455
00:53:35,517 --> 00:53:38,476
of the entire planet, it's a size of

1456
00:53:38,476 --> 00:53:41,659
a sugar cube. Mh. And everything else is

1457
00:53:41,659 --> 00:53:43,011
pure energy. Okay?

1458
00:53:43,821 --> 00:53:46,438
So the thing that science does not do

1459
00:53:46,438 --> 00:53:49,453
is they never tell you they don't define

1460
00:53:49,453 --> 00:53:51,222
the ed energy. So

1461
00:53:51,849 --> 00:53:53,210
I define it as love.

1462
00:53:53,930 --> 00:53:56,650
God is love. And so I'm saying that

1463
00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:58,650
this energy is love, and if I come

1464
00:53:58,650 --> 00:54:00,090
from that perspective,

1465
00:54:00,505 --> 00:54:02,422
that think energy here is love,

1466
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:05,558
then it changes everything

1467
00:54:06,496 --> 00:54:09,543
because now we're in a simulation, you are

1468
00:54:09,543 --> 00:54:11,775
dreaming this, but here's the big And it's

1469
00:54:11,775 --> 00:54:14,166
really... It it makes perfect sense when you

1470
00:54:14,166 --> 00:54:14,883
get the hang of it.

1471
00:54:16,253 --> 00:54:18,503
What if we are going from 1

1472
00:54:19,037 --> 00:54:19,537
dream

1473
00:54:19,912 --> 00:54:20,412
reality

1474
00:54:21,105 --> 00:54:22,378
into another. Mh.

1475
00:54:23,188 --> 00:54:23,427
Right?

1476
00:54:24,143 --> 00:54:27,882
Well, that means that nothing ever happens that

1477
00:54:27,882 --> 00:54:30,284
is this horrible thing you think happened. Like,

1478
00:54:30,443 --> 00:54:32,039
you are going to wake up from it.

1479
00:54:32,278 --> 00:54:34,751
You are... So you are having... You're playing

1480
00:54:34,751 --> 00:54:37,955
this game here and the whole... Thing about

1481
00:54:37,955 --> 00:54:40,659
this game is not to come here and

1482
00:54:40,659 --> 00:54:40,976
learn.

1483
00:54:41,533 --> 00:54:42,033
You

1484
00:54:42,487 --> 00:54:45,850
you are god consciousness. You are love consciousness.

1485
00:54:46,225 --> 00:54:48,785
That's you. By. I'm with you a hundred

1486
00:54:48,785 --> 00:54:51,648
percent. Yeah. I I'm agreeing with you. As

1487
00:54:51,648 --> 00:54:53,238
a journalist, I shouldn't do that, but I'm

1488
00:54:53,238 --> 00:54:54,351
gonna go ahead and do it because we

1489
00:54:54,351 --> 00:54:55,942
have conversations here on hire journeys.

1490
00:54:56,578 --> 00:54:59,141
Look. All that you are saying and and

1491
00:54:59,141 --> 00:55:02,088
kudos to you for your incredible dis, but

1492
00:55:02,088 --> 00:55:03,384
this is really perennial

1493
00:55:03,919 --> 00:55:07,200
philosophy, Heather, you will find this frankly, and

1494
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,149
every indigenous culture in their own form and

1495
00:55:10,149 --> 00:55:12,300
language, and even in many of our,

1496
00:55:14,068 --> 00:55:14,568
mono

1497
00:55:15,103 --> 00:55:17,091
religions in some form or fashion,

1498
00:55:18,205 --> 00:55:20,273
you know, this idea that... I mean, it's

1499
00:55:20,273 --> 00:55:22,276
the... Who... Is it the the Mayan? Or...

1500
00:55:22,514 --> 00:55:24,740
It's not the mayan. It may be... That

1501
00:55:24,740 --> 00:55:24,899
says,

1502
00:55:26,568 --> 00:55:29,368
reality is Maya, meaning an illusion. We go

1503
00:55:29,368 --> 00:55:31,282
from 1 level of a dream to another.

1504
00:55:31,521 --> 00:55:33,276
You could even take the work of my

1505
00:55:33,276 --> 00:55:35,190
dear friend Daryl El who channels Bash bashar,

1506
00:55:35,509 --> 00:55:37,423
who has said that repeatedly. We just had

1507
00:55:37,423 --> 00:55:38,755
a show a few weeks ago in which

1508
00:55:38,953 --> 00:55:41,653
talked about that. And so all of these

1509
00:55:41,653 --> 00:55:42,209
sort of

1510
00:55:42,844 --> 00:55:45,942
poetic articulated things and and in our ancient

1511
00:55:45,942 --> 00:55:48,380
checks to modern j are in... We

1512
00:55:49,133 --> 00:55:52,148
the same thing that there's really no difference

1513
00:55:52,148 --> 00:55:54,472
between the dream that we're told we're having

1514
00:55:54,765 --> 00:55:55,265
versus

1515
00:55:55,574 --> 00:55:57,958
you and I talking right now. This is

1516
00:55:57,958 --> 00:55:59,945
another level of the dream, but a dream

1517
00:55:59,945 --> 00:56:02,648
nonetheless. So Yeah Yeah. It's it's really stunning.

1518
00:56:03,219 --> 00:56:06,016
And here's here's why it's important to understand

1519
00:56:06,016 --> 00:56:06,177
that.

1520
00:56:07,215 --> 00:56:09,293
Because when you wake up from a dream,

1521
00:56:09,453 --> 00:56:11,931
it doesn't matter what happened, you immediately go,

1522
00:56:12,090 --> 00:56:14,662
oh, it's not. Real, and you don't worry

1523
00:56:14,662 --> 00:56:16,180
about it Do you. But you know, like,

1524
00:56:16,340 --> 00:56:18,498
in general, you recognize recognized, like, if you

1525
00:56:18,498 --> 00:56:20,175
go to your therapist and you say I

1526
00:56:20,175 --> 00:56:21,030
dreamed I had it

1527
00:56:21,626 --> 00:56:24,092
this horrible argument with my boyfriend? They don't

1528
00:56:24,092 --> 00:56:25,763
go well bring him in for couple therapy.

1529
00:56:26,001 --> 00:56:28,149
She says, or he says, how do you

1530
00:56:28,149 --> 00:56:28,945
feel about that?

1531
00:56:30,074 --> 00:56:32,865
Right? Okay. So this is the most important

1532
00:56:32,865 --> 00:56:33,025
thing.

1533
00:56:34,222 --> 00:56:35,280
You wake up

1534
00:56:35,657 --> 00:56:37,651
and who are not waking up into the

1535
00:56:37,651 --> 00:56:39,860
physical reality that you think you're waking up

1536
00:56:40,140 --> 00:56:43,420
into, you're shifting from 1 dream consciousness to

1537
00:56:43,420 --> 00:56:43,739
another.

1538
00:56:44,539 --> 00:56:47,180
And what that means is that no matter

1539
00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:49,909
what's going on in you're here now in

1540
00:56:49,909 --> 00:56:52,401
this in your waking world or your waking

1541
00:56:52,458 --> 00:56:52,777
dream,

1542
00:56:53,972 --> 00:56:55,724
if you will look at it like a

1543
00:56:55,724 --> 00:56:57,477
dream. So when my clients come to me

1544
00:56:57,477 --> 00:56:59,245
and they go, So this was happening to

1545
00:56:59,245 --> 00:57:01,237
me and dah. They say, okay, I'm your

1546
00:57:01,237 --> 00:57:01,715
therapist.

1547
00:57:02,353 --> 00:57:04,664
You dreamed to that, tell me how do

1548
00:57:04,664 --> 00:57:07,231
you feel about it? So and guess what?

1549
00:57:08,028 --> 00:57:10,740
Everybody has a feeling about it. Everybody, nobody

1550
00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:12,016
goes, why don't happen to feel... No. No.

1551
00:57:12,176 --> 00:57:14,329
They have feelings about it. Right? And we'd

1552
00:57:14,329 --> 00:57:16,498
start to work with those feelings Well think

1553
00:57:16,498 --> 00:57:18,732
about it. What if every problem you thought

1554
00:57:18,732 --> 00:57:20,727
you had, you brought it back to yourself,

1555
00:57:20,966 --> 00:57:23,041
recognize they with your own feelings.

1556
00:57:23,694 --> 00:57:25,692
And that you work on your feelings. You

1557
00:57:25,692 --> 00:57:27,849
don't try to change somebody. You don't try

1558
00:57:27,849 --> 00:57:31,286
to fix the situation. You just change how

1559
00:57:31,286 --> 00:57:31,845
you feel.

1560
00:57:32,498 --> 00:57:32,998
Absolutely.

1561
00:57:33,456 --> 00:57:36,191
Yeah. Well, this is this why it's so

1562
00:57:36,888 --> 00:57:40,080
important to understand this. Right. Think it up.

1563
00:57:40,333 --> 00:57:42,159
Well, the the the part that I think

1564
00:57:42,159 --> 00:57:44,459
is really fascinating of all this. It... Let's

1565
00:57:44,459 --> 00:57:47,157
go with this hypothesis that the the the

1566
00:57:47,157 --> 00:57:48,268
reality that we think we're...

1567
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,359
Living as waking conscious reality is still just

1568
00:57:52,359 --> 00:57:53,239
to dream.

1569
00:57:54,119 --> 00:57:55,960
If you take the attitude, when you have

1570
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:56,920
a dream and you wake up from the

1571
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,359
dream say it's a nightmare, and you're like,

1572
00:57:58,614 --> 00:57:59,890
you finally realize it's a nightmare and you're

1573
00:57:59,890 --> 00:58:00,768
said saying I'm not gonna worry about it.

1574
00:58:00,927 --> 00:58:02,921
It was just a dream. Let's run it.

1575
00:58:03,479 --> 00:58:06,750
Let's j that to the physical reality where

1576
00:58:06,750 --> 00:58:10,034
something devastating happens. You realize it's just a

1577
00:58:10,034 --> 00:58:10,513
dream,

1578
00:58:11,470 --> 00:58:13,623
it will not have the impact that it

1579
00:58:13,623 --> 00:58:14,841
would had you

1580
00:58:15,617 --> 00:58:17,771
continue to sustain the the feeling,

1581
00:58:18,343 --> 00:58:20,960
that you had... Because now you understand it's

1582
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:22,706
just a dream. So it isn't real either.

1583
00:58:23,181 --> 00:58:25,640
So question for you, Heather. Yeah. Does this

1584
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:26,329
mean that

1585
00:58:26,767 --> 00:58:28,858
when people because people are dealing with Myriad

1586
00:58:28,915 --> 00:58:32,415
challenges in this physical dream or having, Mh

1587
00:58:32,415 --> 00:58:34,665
can they use this to apply

1588
00:58:35,454 --> 00:58:36,753
to start to

1589
00:58:37,132 --> 00:58:39,929
rem mold the reality, knowing that it's just

1590
00:58:39,929 --> 00:58:43,066
a drain. It's it's not a static fixed

1591
00:58:43,285 --> 00:58:43,785
state

1592
00:58:44,099 --> 00:58:45,693
very holographic graphic by the way, and the

1593
00:58:45,693 --> 00:58:47,926
way this is being described, but your thoughts

1594
00:58:47,926 --> 00:58:49,304
on that. Well

1595
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,913
I have... I actually have a great idea

1596
00:58:51,913 --> 00:58:52,413
and

1597
00:58:53,524 --> 00:58:55,682
I have to just tell you that I

1598
00:58:55,682 --> 00:58:56,342
have been

1599
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,277
in the giving business for a long time.

1600
00:58:59,517 --> 00:59:00,337
And I

1601
00:59:01,036 --> 00:59:03,284
something called... How to feel better when things

1602
00:59:03,284 --> 00:59:04,877
get worse years and years ago.

1603
00:59:05,594 --> 00:59:06,094
And

1604
00:59:06,789 --> 00:59:08,701
the reason I wanna to tell this is

1605
00:59:08,701 --> 00:59:10,851
that I I put it online for free

1606
00:59:10,851 --> 00:59:12,695
with this program called the giving game.

1607
00:59:13,728 --> 00:59:15,795
And by friend Leo, the guy from from

1608
00:59:15,795 --> 00:59:18,282
the the Love Island thing had a really

1609
00:59:18,338 --> 00:59:20,738
incredible experience where I just walked him through

1610
00:59:20,738 --> 00:59:22,010
some stuff that I do and he's in

1611
00:59:22,089 --> 00:59:23,917
Heather, you have to get this out there.

1612
00:59:24,632 --> 00:59:26,938
And so I created a real program, not

1613
00:59:26,938 --> 00:59:29,023
my kind of, you know, doing my best,

1614
00:59:29,262 --> 00:59:30,539
but I create a real program,

1615
00:59:31,098 --> 00:59:33,254
and I... You know, it's like hundred dollars,

1616
00:59:33,494 --> 00:59:34,771
not a big deal. However,

1617
00:59:36,048 --> 00:59:37,586
after I spoke to you

1618
00:59:37,978 --> 00:59:40,276
spirit comes right since Heather just give it

1619
00:59:40,276 --> 00:59:42,337
away. Give away how to feel better when

1620
00:59:42,337 --> 00:59:44,873
things get worse because... And I'll explain why.

1621
00:59:45,603 --> 00:59:47,516
Because even if you... Whether you do the

1622
00:59:47,516 --> 00:59:50,147
other program or not, and this explains other

1623
00:59:50,147 --> 00:59:51,842
things. But this

1624
00:59:52,538 --> 00:59:53,038
foundational

1625
00:59:54,546 --> 00:59:56,380
audio. It's 70 minutes long.

1626
00:59:57,894 --> 00:59:59,807
If you do it, it works and it...

1627
00:59:59,967 --> 01:00:02,851
And let me explain this because I would

1628
01:00:02,851 --> 01:00:04,523
love for people to know how to do

1629
01:00:04,523 --> 01:00:06,753
this because, you know, you hear inspiring things,

1630
01:00:06,832 --> 01:00:07,947
and you don't know what to do with.

1631
01:00:08,106 --> 01:00:09,858
Like, great. I love. I'm inspired, but now

1632
01:00:09,858 --> 01:00:12,025
what? Right? So here's what happened.

1633
01:00:13,461 --> 01:00:15,614
I met a man at a conference named

1634
01:00:15,773 --> 01:00:18,644
Wall Mint, and he wrote this book called

1635
01:00:18,644 --> 01:00:19,681
the results book.

1636
01:00:20,414 --> 01:00:22,569
And in it was a chapter or is

1637
01:00:22,569 --> 01:00:24,085
a chapter. It's out of print,

1638
01:00:24,724 --> 01:00:27,277
called it's called the okay concept. And he

1639
01:00:27,277 --> 01:00:29,929
calls it the greatest problem solving secret in

1640
01:00:29,929 --> 01:00:31,369
the universe and it is.

1641
01:00:32,089 --> 01:00:32,909
And basically,

1642
01:00:33,210 --> 01:00:34,750
it's a 20 minute talk

1643
01:00:35,130 --> 01:00:38,249
where He explains that you... If you let

1644
01:00:38,249 --> 01:00:41,192
things be okay, and you recognize this as

1645
01:00:41,192 --> 01:00:42,226
just what is.

1646
01:00:43,196 --> 01:00:44,968
Then you pull the

1647
01:00:45,342 --> 01:00:48,364
fearful negative energy out of the out of

1648
01:00:48,364 --> 01:00:48,841
it. Right?

1649
01:00:49,557 --> 01:00:52,315
And so you... And you just neutralize what's

1650
01:00:52,434 --> 01:00:52,833
happening.

1651
01:00:53,791 --> 01:00:54,291
So

1652
01:00:54,828 --> 01:00:58,121
I listen... I I realized that I wasn't

1653
01:00:58,259 --> 01:01:00,429
remembering these things like, I'm it. I go,

1654
01:01:00,508 --> 01:01:01,945
oh, that's right. I was supposed to let

1655
01:01:01,945 --> 01:01:04,420
it be okay, and I'd forget. So I

1656
01:01:04,420 --> 01:01:07,214
decided, especially being an actress and memorizing things.

1657
01:01:07,454 --> 01:01:08,971
I'm like, I am going to memorize this.

1658
01:01:09,130 --> 01:01:11,295
So see you know, I recorded the whole

1659
01:01:11,295 --> 01:01:13,603
thing. I memorized it. Oh, I didn't get

1660
01:01:13,603 --> 01:01:15,195
to the memo amortization part, and this is

1661
01:01:15,195 --> 01:01:16,468
what you're gonna find interesting.

1662
01:01:17,025 --> 01:01:19,680
You I listened every single day to the

1663
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,920
full 20 minutes. Every day, it would remind

1664
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:24,000
me to go it's okay it's okay? And

1665
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:25,680
then 1 day something happened,

1666
01:01:26,094 --> 01:01:28,083
that was very upsetting for me.

1667
01:01:29,119 --> 01:01:30,630
And I've been doing this the whole time,

1668
01:01:31,108 --> 01:01:34,148
and it was something really simple. III

1669
01:01:34,148 --> 01:01:36,533
was with my a really good friend. I

1670
01:01:36,533 --> 01:01:38,759
had my baby worth the zoo. He takes

1671
01:01:38,759 --> 01:01:40,509
me to my favorite place on the creek

1672
01:01:40,509 --> 01:01:42,178
to eat lunch. And all of a sudden,

1673
01:01:42,417 --> 01:01:44,105
I realized I have to be... Up at

1674
01:01:44,105 --> 01:01:46,025
this del to meet her dad, and I

1675
01:01:46,025 --> 01:01:48,184
needed to get cash for him, and I

1676
01:01:48,184 --> 01:01:49,864
rushed up there, and I only have 1

1677
01:01:49,864 --> 01:01:51,385
day a week off. The rest of the

1678
01:01:51,385 --> 01:01:53,636
time I'm taking care of her and that

1679
01:01:53,636 --> 01:01:54,772
we got, I'm usually

1680
01:01:55,147 --> 01:01:57,691
I was usually working and doing massages and

1681
01:01:57,691 --> 01:01:59,121
things like that and paying the bills.

1682
01:01:59,916 --> 01:02:03,502
So I wasn't... Pretty exhausted in general, and

1683
01:02:03,660 --> 01:02:06,039
I get up there. And he's like, oh

1684
01:02:06,039 --> 01:02:08,600
thanks. Thanks for the money. Hi, Honey, Hi

1685
01:02:08,829 --> 01:02:10,814
I, you know, a baby memorabilia, and they

1686
01:02:10,814 --> 01:02:12,799
goes, hey, I'm not feeling like, taken her

1687
01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:12,958
today.

1688
01:02:13,990 --> 01:02:15,340
And I knew that he had done that

1689
01:02:15,340 --> 01:02:17,182
on purpose that he'd let me... Come all

1690
01:02:17,182 --> 01:02:19,806
the way up there with this money. And

1691
01:02:19,806 --> 01:02:21,556
my whole body was, like,

1692
01:02:22,271 --> 01:02:22,907
it's okay.

1693
01:02:23,782 --> 01:02:25,373
Just like that. And I was like,

1694
01:02:26,899 --> 01:02:28,574
Oh, god I didn't know anything. I didn't

1695
01:02:28,574 --> 01:02:30,089
know anything was gonna happen. I just thought

1696
01:02:30,169 --> 01:02:32,163
I was gonna memorize something, and my hope

1697
01:02:32,163 --> 01:02:34,077
body thought. I said, okay. Well, we'll just

1698
01:02:34,077 --> 01:02:35,672
go in the pool and go swimming. We

1699
01:02:35,672 --> 01:02:37,603
did. He joined us He got the police

1700
01:02:37,603 --> 01:02:39,199
says you know what? Now. You have to

1701
01:02:39,199 --> 01:02:41,753
understand. He had never done more than take

1702
01:02:41,753 --> 01:02:43,988
her 1 day a week for a year.

1703
01:02:44,467 --> 01:02:44,786
Mh.

1704
01:02:45,759 --> 01:02:47,037
And all of a sudden he says, you

1705
01:02:47,037 --> 01:02:47,437
know what?

1706
01:02:49,434 --> 01:02:51,911
Thank you so much for for taking her

1707
01:02:51,911 --> 01:02:52,070
today.

1708
01:02:52,804 --> 01:02:54,315
I will take her for the next 3

1709
01:02:54,315 --> 01:02:55,667
days if you bring her tomorrow.

1710
01:02:57,179 --> 01:02:58,451
I'm gone. Yeah.

1711
01:02:59,405 --> 01:03:01,498
So now I'm on to something, and I

1712
01:03:01,498 --> 01:03:04,215
start sharing this with people, and everybody starts

1713
01:03:04,215 --> 01:03:07,172
to have these amazing experiences take place when

1714
01:03:07,172 --> 01:03:08,610
they do the whole thing and I'm, like,

1715
01:03:08,771 --> 01:03:10,537
don't skip a day. So this is what

1716
01:03:10,696 --> 01:03:12,760
I wanna tell everybody. I'm gonna set this

1717
01:03:12,760 --> 01:03:15,381
up so that everybody can listen to it.

1718
01:03:15,539 --> 01:03:17,604
You can go do the okay concept yourself,

1719
01:03:17,763 --> 01:03:20,250
but here's the trick. Do it every day.

1720
01:03:20,730 --> 01:03:23,069
That... So I didn't know for 5 years

1721
01:03:23,289 --> 01:03:25,690
that I had created a new neural pathway

1722
01:03:25,690 --> 01:03:27,929
in my brain, which is what doctor Joe

1723
01:03:28,010 --> 01:03:30,414
Benz talks about. Mh. But here's the thing.

1724
01:03:30,892 --> 01:03:33,462
Nobody has ever connected this

1725
01:03:33,917 --> 01:03:36,464
repetition that creates the new neuro pathway in

1726
01:03:36,464 --> 01:03:37,203
the brain

1727
01:03:37,578 --> 01:03:41,355
with fucks the okay concept. They're talking about

1728
01:03:41,650 --> 01:03:44,355
meditation, but it's easy to meditate and then

1729
01:03:44,355 --> 01:03:46,597
go off and be your Health again. Absolutely...

1730
01:03:46,994 --> 01:03:48,824
Yeah. And it can work, but it's no

1731
01:03:48,824 --> 01:03:50,494
guarantee. Well, here's the thing.

1732
01:03:51,449 --> 01:03:52,918
This works every

1733
01:03:53,291 --> 01:03:53,608
time.

1734
01:03:54,163 --> 01:03:55,748
Nobody has ever come to me and said

1735
01:03:55,748 --> 01:03:57,572
it doesn't work because I would go did

1736
01:03:57,572 --> 01:03:58,840
you do it, and they go, no, I've

1737
01:03:58,840 --> 01:03:59,657
been too busy

1738
01:04:00,124 --> 01:04:02,917
So so that's how powerful it is. You

1739
01:04:02,917 --> 01:04:04,753
let things be okay. And what you're kind

1740
01:04:04,753 --> 01:04:07,248
of seeing from the stories I've told you

1741
01:04:07,386 --> 01:04:10,034
is that... This was my... It was like

1742
01:04:10,034 --> 01:04:12,368
that egg cracking open and

1743
01:04:13,144 --> 01:04:15,697
and just realizing that there was nothing I

1744
01:04:15,697 --> 01:04:18,144
could do, and I happened to just step

1745
01:04:18,264 --> 01:04:20,439
into that so that when the okay concept

1746
01:04:20,497 --> 01:04:23,310
came to me, it made so much sense

1747
01:04:23,767 --> 01:04:25,840
and and I was like, that's what I

1748
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:27,536
did. Like, a lot of times

1749
01:04:27,848 --> 01:04:29,913
I didn't know what I was doing until

1750
01:04:29,992 --> 01:04:31,501
I looked back and I saw it.

1751
01:04:32,374 --> 01:04:33,668
The okay concept,

1752
01:04:34,121 --> 01:04:35,074
maybe the key.

1753
01:04:35,884 --> 01:04:36,623
To shifting

1754
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:37,900
reality.

1755
01:04:38,755 --> 01:04:40,430
It is true. That just came to me.

1756
01:04:41,148 --> 01:04:41,547
Mh.

1757
01:04:42,424 --> 01:04:44,976
It is. And I can't wait for you

1758
01:04:44,976 --> 01:04:47,225
to try it. Oh, well, knew I was

1759
01:04:47,225 --> 01:04:48,102
gonna ask didn't you.

1760
01:04:48,900 --> 01:04:50,415
Tell us where people can get it. We're

1761
01:04:50,415 --> 01:04:52,568
winding down. So so, Heather, I know people

1762
01:04:52,568 --> 01:04:54,244
are gonna wanna reach out to you. Where

1763
01:04:54,244 --> 01:04:55,382
can they find you

1764
01:04:56,012 --> 01:04:57,842
where can they get this, tell us... Give

1765
01:04:57,842 --> 01:04:59,990
us the goods? Give us the goods? Okay.

1766
01:05:00,309 --> 01:05:02,457
Go to the results program dot com.

1767
01:05:03,428 --> 01:05:04,544
And there...

1768
01:05:05,262 --> 01:05:06,777
I'm I'm in the process of setting this

1769
01:05:06,777 --> 01:05:08,132
up right now, but it should be done

1770
01:05:08,132 --> 01:05:10,365
by the time anybody sees it, But it

1771
01:05:10,365 --> 01:05:11,083
will be there,

1772
01:05:12,294 --> 01:05:13,806
In fact, we'll we'll put a link in

1773
01:05:13,806 --> 01:05:15,954
the description box. So we'll give them a

1774
01:05:15,954 --> 01:05:19,217
specific link so that people can find that.

1775
01:05:19,853 --> 01:05:20,353
And,

1776
01:05:21,699 --> 01:05:22,757
The other thing

1777
01:05:23,134 --> 01:05:24,570
that came up that I wanna share with

1778
01:05:24,570 --> 01:05:25,787
you just really quickly

1779
01:05:26,324 --> 01:05:26,824
is

1780
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:30,151
I had this beautiful audiobook called the game.

1781
01:05:30,963 --> 01:05:33,927
And it's really unusual because

1782
01:05:34,460 --> 01:05:36,073
I created it first

1783
01:05:36,527 --> 01:05:37,822
back in 20 17,

1784
01:05:38,609 --> 01:05:42,197
as a as an interactive audio game app.

1785
01:05:43,154 --> 01:05:45,727
And I did this because I wanted teenagers

1786
01:05:46,105 --> 01:05:49,072
to be able to have fun learning these

1787
01:05:49,072 --> 01:05:49,572
concepts.

1788
01:05:50,269 --> 01:05:52,345
And it was a great idea. The problem

1789
01:05:52,345 --> 01:05:55,298
was that the person who did all the

1790
01:05:55,298 --> 01:05:58,577
programming for me, it was done in a,

1791
01:06:00,083 --> 01:06:00,900
a framework

1792
01:06:01,589 --> 01:06:04,046
that didn't work, and and a lot of

1793
01:06:04,046 --> 01:06:04,546
other

1794
01:06:04,854 --> 01:06:07,005
you know, code knew about. I mean, they

1795
01:06:07,005 --> 01:06:08,679
didn't know at the time, but eventually, they

1796
01:06:08,679 --> 01:06:10,351
said, yeah, You can't use that framework.

1797
01:06:11,068 --> 01:06:12,834
And you have to, pay to keep the

1798
01:06:12,834 --> 01:06:14,741
app going, and I had everything free because

1799
01:06:14,900 --> 01:06:16,568
I wanted it to get out to kids

1800
01:06:16,568 --> 01:06:18,395
and high schools and all kinds of things.

1801
01:06:18,871 --> 01:06:21,119
And so ever since 20 17,

1802
01:06:21,811 --> 01:06:21,890
hey,

1803
01:06:22,619 --> 01:06:24,286
or, you know, whenever I took it offline.

1804
01:06:24,523 --> 01:06:24,920
Finally,

1805
01:06:26,666 --> 01:06:28,673
you know, people loved it, but it was.

1806
01:06:28,887 --> 01:06:30,650
It was just, and that's kinda weird with

1807
01:06:30,650 --> 01:06:32,239
you're playing a game and glitches out on

1808
01:06:32,239 --> 01:06:34,066
you. So I just took it offline.

1809
01:06:34,780 --> 01:06:37,584
Well, literally, after I talked to you about

1810
01:06:38,211 --> 01:06:40,277
Fact that this was only yesterday that this

1811
01:06:40,277 --> 01:06:41,867
hit me. All of this sudden,

1812
01:06:42,661 --> 01:06:44,489
I get this download. It's like Heather.

1813
01:06:45,379 --> 01:06:46,736
Not only do we want you to give

1814
01:06:46,736 --> 01:06:48,572
away the audio, but we want you to

1815
01:06:48,572 --> 01:06:51,286
give away this game and you can set

1816
01:06:51,286 --> 01:06:53,122
it up in Youtube. So I go to

1817
01:06:53,122 --> 01:06:55,054
chat Gp and? Is this? Possible.

1818
01:06:56,174 --> 01:06:58,734
Pieces. You bet. Inch of those here's how

1819
01:06:58,734 --> 01:07:00,574
you do it, and they give them the

1820
01:07:00,574 --> 01:07:03,225
binary choices on the end screen, and they

1821
01:07:03,225 --> 01:07:05,298
can choose a or b, and I'm going

1822
01:07:05,298 --> 01:07:05,936
oh my goodness.

1823
01:07:06,814 --> 01:07:08,409
Don't should just love it. Oh, my goodness.

1824
01:07:09,047 --> 01:07:10,642
You're gonna be there. It's all gonna be

1825
01:07:10,642 --> 01:07:12,492
on the results program. I'll make it so

1826
01:07:12,492 --> 01:07:14,328
that people can find it, and it'll be

1827
01:07:14,328 --> 01:07:16,721
in the link, and it'll be for free,

1828
01:07:16,961 --> 01:07:19,115
and I'm love. I did for people to...

1829
01:07:19,449 --> 01:07:21,358
Get to do this. And by the way,

1830
01:07:21,756 --> 01:07:22,074
parents,

1831
01:07:23,028 --> 01:07:25,177
there are so many parents who love listening

1832
01:07:25,177 --> 01:07:26,608
to this story. So you'll have the choice

1833
01:07:26,608 --> 01:07:29,112
of just listening to the story, or listening

1834
01:07:29,169 --> 01:07:31,897
to, you know, doing the gang. Right? But

1835
01:07:32,193 --> 01:07:34,125
but I have had so many parents

1836
01:07:34,501 --> 01:07:36,172
say that they listen to it with their

1837
01:07:36,172 --> 01:07:38,968
13, 14, 15 year old and they love

1838
01:07:38,968 --> 01:07:40,659
it because they get into these

1839
01:07:41,032 --> 01:07:43,968
conversations about everything that's in there, and it's

1840
01:07:43,968 --> 01:07:46,842
all this deep truth and the weird thing

1841
01:07:46,842 --> 01:07:49,147
that we'll talk about another time is that

1842
01:07:49,147 --> 01:07:52,405
it is narrated in second person. Mh because

1843
01:07:52,485 --> 01:07:54,410
I did it to be game like but

1844
01:07:54,410 --> 01:07:56,750
what happened, which we'll talk about later

1845
01:07:57,289 --> 01:07:58,750
is that it

1846
01:07:59,210 --> 01:08:00,190
affects people

1847
01:08:00,730 --> 01:08:03,860
in the most phenomenal way because when you're

1848
01:08:03,860 --> 01:08:06,408
listening to a story, the left brain takes

1849
01:08:06,408 --> 01:08:08,398
a holiday. It goes, okay. Whatever.

1850
01:08:08,954 --> 01:08:11,263
Now the right brain is taking in these

1851
01:08:11,263 --> 01:08:14,939
deep truths. Yeah. Right? Right. It goes right

1852
01:08:14,939 --> 01:08:16,155
into the subconscious.

1853
01:08:16,928 --> 01:08:18,542
And I had a neuroscientist scientist

1854
01:08:18,918 --> 01:08:20,590
explain this to me because all these people

1855
01:08:20,590 --> 01:08:22,340
were having these huge breakthroughs. And I'm like,

1856
01:08:22,833 --> 01:08:25,465
what is happening? And she said, Heather, you're

1857
01:08:25,465 --> 01:08:28,016
h digitizing them. Yeah. Right? That makes sense.

1858
01:08:28,416 --> 01:08:30,887
Feeling this. You were feeling that, and not

1859
01:08:30,887 --> 01:08:32,419
in a win it puts to sleep at

1860
01:08:32,419 --> 01:08:35,454
the wheel, but like, it's going straight in

1861
01:08:35,454 --> 01:08:37,851
because the left brain is going. Yeah. Whatever.

1862
01:08:38,970 --> 01:08:41,290
You I love that. And it's usually the

1863
01:08:41,290 --> 01:08:43,993
right brain that's very, yeah. Whatever. That's interesting.

1864
01:08:44,152 --> 01:08:45,901
Left brain is, like, pinging yank. Right brain

1865
01:08:45,901 --> 01:08:46,378
like... Yeah.

1866
01:08:47,269 --> 01:08:49,603
Or I long... Because it's an audiobook,

1867
01:08:50,139 --> 01:08:52,314
you can listen with your eyes closed

1868
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and think about it. You have nothing to

1869
01:08:54,604 --> 01:08:55,822
do, but

1870
01:08:56,374 --> 01:08:58,532
imagine. Yeah. And we are gonna get into

1871
01:08:58,532 --> 01:09:01,408
this imagine thing someday because oh my goodness.

1872
01:09:01,728 --> 01:09:04,445
Your imagination is everything, and I will save

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01:09:04,445 --> 01:09:04,605
this.

1874
01:09:05,814 --> 01:09:08,432
This entire world that we are in was

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01:09:08,432 --> 01:09:08,932
created

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01:09:09,305 --> 01:09:11,131
by gods in that nation.

1877
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And that's why when will go into your

1878
01:09:15,591 --> 01:09:18,845
imagination, you're getting into the element that was

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01:09:18,845 --> 01:09:21,241
that it was created in. So you're going

1880
01:09:21,241 --> 01:09:21,741
into

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01:09:22,194 --> 01:09:24,756
imagination and boom. You can change things

1882
01:09:25,209 --> 01:09:25,709
seriously.

1883
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,243
And there's a thing in and in the

1884
01:09:28,243 --> 01:09:31,439
results program called Etc, which is emotional transformation

1885
01:09:31,439 --> 01:09:33,836
code. Yeah. We go hear people talk about

1886
01:09:33,836 --> 01:09:36,479
this. And it's... It's just amazing pick because.

1887
01:09:36,639 --> 01:09:38,148
And this is on your Youtube channel. Right?

1888
01:09:38,625 --> 01:09:40,055
Gotta give us your Youtube channel as well.

1889
01:09:40,452 --> 01:09:42,929
Well, yeah. My my Youtube channel. There are

1890
01:09:42,929 --> 01:09:44,357
some of those on there. But if you

1891
01:09:44,357 --> 01:09:46,761
go to the results program, you'll hear testimonials.

1892
01:09:47,292 --> 01:09:50,228
Okay. And these testimonials will give you an

1893
01:09:50,228 --> 01:09:53,436
idea. That this happens in 1 session, by

1894
01:09:53,436 --> 01:09:55,694
not going into analysis but into

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01:09:56,073 --> 01:09:56,233
imagination,

1896
01:09:56,952 --> 01:09:59,363
and it's like coding a game. Like, you

1897
01:09:59,363 --> 01:10:01,190
go in and you're always turning left all

1898
01:10:01,190 --> 01:10:02,303
the time and you play a game and

1899
01:10:02,303 --> 01:10:04,131
all a sudden you go right. Everything to

1900
01:10:04,131 --> 01:10:06,752
the left shuts down. You don't sit there

1901
01:10:06,752 --> 01:10:08,837
and worried about the... You the 30 years

1902
01:10:08,837 --> 01:10:10,671
that you made that choice that going left

1903
01:10:10,671 --> 01:10:13,064
and what happened going left, it shuts down.

1904
01:10:13,224 --> 01:10:14,341
You're going to the right You're having a

1905
01:10:14,341 --> 01:10:16,813
whole new experience, and that happens to people

1906
01:10:16,813 --> 01:10:19,057
in 1 session and they can learn how

1907
01:10:19,057 --> 01:10:19,614
to do it.

1908
01:10:20,649 --> 01:10:22,342
So what a repository

1909
01:10:23,274 --> 01:10:25,754
miss Heather Noel. And you have over there.

1910
01:10:25,992 --> 01:10:27,422
We're gonna make sure everybody goes over there,

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01:10:27,582 --> 01:10:27,740
listen.

1912
01:10:28,456 --> 01:10:29,966
We can go on forever, but we've gotta

1913
01:10:29,966 --> 01:10:32,031
a we've got it down. So people can...

1914
01:10:32,524 --> 01:10:34,279
Hurry up and go over there and see

1915
01:10:34,279 --> 01:10:37,230
what you're missing. This is fantastic. Thanks. Heather,

1916
01:10:37,549 --> 01:10:39,246
I am just so incredibly

1917
01:10:39,782 --> 01:10:41,319
impressed not only

1918
01:10:41,697 --> 01:10:43,630
with your stories. Well the stories are the

1919
01:10:43,630 --> 01:10:45,550
stories, but what you've done with them,

1920
01:10:46,270 --> 01:10:48,270
what you have done in service to humanity,

1921
01:10:48,430 --> 01:10:48,829
frankly,

1922
01:10:49,470 --> 01:10:49,970
that

1923
01:10:50,829 --> 01:10:52,781
stories is is just incredibly

1924
01:10:53,239 --> 01:10:55,395
important right now because a lot of people

1925
01:10:55,395 --> 01:10:56,912
are feeling so to spot. And if you

1926
01:10:56,912 --> 01:10:59,068
watch my show, you know, we've done quite

1927
01:10:59,068 --> 01:11:00,526
a few on the

1928
01:11:01,235 --> 01:11:03,060
let's just call it the the extreme challenges

1929
01:11:03,060 --> 01:11:04,805
that people are going through and the antidote,

1930
01:11:04,964 --> 01:11:07,795
of course, but things like this are what

1931
01:11:07,993 --> 01:11:10,805
people need right now and to be reminded

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01:11:10,944 --> 01:11:11,444
that

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01:11:11,820 --> 01:11:13,756
some of the the most powerful,

1934
01:11:14,770 --> 01:11:16,067
well, some of the most

1935
01:11:16,618 --> 01:11:19,171
heavy challenges can be solved in the most

1936
01:11:19,171 --> 01:11:20,447
simplest of ways.

1937
01:11:21,165 --> 01:11:23,819
2 words I will use that are everything

1938
01:11:24,275 --> 01:11:26,131
to borrow from you. Love

1939
01:11:26,444 --> 01:11:27,404
and imagination.

1940
01:11:28,202 --> 01:11:30,519
Yeah. And we have them both innate.

1941
01:11:31,078 --> 01:11:34,128
So let's use them everyone. Yeah. Heather I

1942
01:11:34,128 --> 01:11:36,279
wanna thank you for coming to hire journeys,

1943
01:11:36,518 --> 01:11:39,863
and god speak to you in your endeavors,

1944
01:11:40,102 --> 01:11:42,176
And Gods speech to all of you watching

1945
01:11:42,176 --> 01:11:43,603
out there. We love you so much.

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Take good care.