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Hey, humans.

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Susan earth here. How's it going?

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This episode we have

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mister Brooks En,

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firefighter.

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He has great stories really interesting,

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interview flash come conversation. I don't know what

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to call them Are the interviews, not really,

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conversations pretty much.

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Anyway,

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we talk about all sorts of things, experiences

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he's had things he's seen. He talks some

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fire safety,

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a little bit everything.

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I wanna mention,

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he's if you don't already know that there

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is a hay human podcast

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dot com.

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So hey, human podcast dot com where you

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can find lots of information in fact,

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I'm putting links on there every episode,

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with every person I speak to, I try

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and put links on the website

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that

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are somehow correlated with the conversation

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that was had on the episode. So... Anyway,

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blah blah blah never said about that. Let's

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get into the conversation with Brooks.

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Alright. Here we go.

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Brooks. Hi.

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How are you? Good. How are you? I'm

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good well. Thanks. K. So excited for hey,

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humans today. We've got Brooks en

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he is a fire. Isn't isn't that cool.

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So I thought, what Fire do. What do

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think. What did they like,

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you're the first step farm... Knowing you're the

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second farm that I have known.

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I spoken to, but really the first fire

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that I have spoken to more than a

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few, you know, short sentences like.

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No

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So how'd you get into fire manning? Well,

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my dad was a firefighter paramedic.

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Ever since I can remember

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I grew up in the firehouse,

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and,

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my mom was burned really bad. Which was

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5. Mh. Over 75 percent everybody. Is that

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how are you doing me your mom? No.

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They went die school together. Oh, okay. Yeah

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Yeah. So,

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yeah. She, my grandfather was burning bare leaves

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and a, 55 gallon barrel. Mh. And she

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had a polyester dress on.

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Then she walked out back and just got

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too close to it. She spent 2 years

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in the Burn new one's supposed to live,

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she's never supposed to have kids.

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Shit. Having 2 kids. Why

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If you're burned externally, why would you not

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be able to have children to the trauma

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to the body or... Well, when you when

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you get burned,

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you know, the burns kinda go,

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the outer surface your skin, and they work

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their way in. So you have, like, skin

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tightening Mh. And,

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her shed to have just numerous skin graft.

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Right? Right.

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when you have all these skin graft or

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skin can't, they they try to allow your

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skin to be able to stretch again, like

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a normal, but you know, Officer, sir. And

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she didn't have that ability for her skin

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to stretch.

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they they just said, you know, you'll never

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be able to stretch enough to have any

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children. Oh, because the belly has to stretch.

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Right. Now How do Therefore, we been in

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secondary that we wouldn't be big enough. You

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know, we'd be... Prince, which I was printer

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true. You. Yeah. Somebody you made up for

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last time from.

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For all of you who can't see him.

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He he's strapping

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individual.

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But yeah. So shit 2 kids his sister,

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Katie. Yeah. Yeah.

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Cool. Does she in fire things? Nurse. Oh,

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so both of you went into professions where

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you help people. That's very noble. Yeah. And

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so my dad, you know, I I grew

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up my earliest recollection was,

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being in the firehouse. And

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just typical boy and his dad, you know?

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Like, velcro goes off.

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These guy's run out, kick their shoes off,

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put their ear on, Mh. Jump on the

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fire truck and they go screaming out the

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door. Right. I mean, what little boy doesn't

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love that. Right? Sure. Or a little girl

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let's not be sexist

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Well you does. Sorry.

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Girls Too can be a fire person. And

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there's plenty of help. Here's a question. New.

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Fire women... Or is it fire woman or

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is it fire still? Is it, like, actors

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or both men and women or is it...

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How's does that work? I mean, they... You're

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just... You're a firefighter fire, You know, When...

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They're not stewards and security anymore. Got it.

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Alright. Do I love learning stuff. Okay. So

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so your little kid, you're mom

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had been burned badly. She's she married your

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dad,

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you and your sister are born. You're like,

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I wanna be confirm him. Mh. Cool. Once...

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I went to,

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the Merchant Marine Academy for a short stint,

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thought I wanted to do business, but really

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my heart. I didn't. Yeah.

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I came back. I was...

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Emt school because you have be an t

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before your paramedic.

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Mh. And And those are the prerequisites to

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be a fire 5 person firefighter. Well, if

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you're a paramedic, like, the paramedics the highest

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trained medical. Person Sure. You know, like, in

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in the field. Mh. So

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a lot of fire departments love paramedics just

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because you can cross train to easily and

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she And they can do basically, a lot

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of things that doctor would do in the

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emergency room.

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I was a paramedic and I I would

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right from me in t school to paramedic

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school.

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I... You usually have to work like, for

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a year or 2, But I found out

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you go to school, they like your money.

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they let me go right Like money Right.

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So, I was a paramedic right at 21.

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Okay. And I was really young, you know,

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got on the fire department I'm I'm 21

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years old. I was a professional firefighter department.

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What you to do to take the firefighter

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test? Is it a written test? Is it...

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Classes. All buildings

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tic tests. And mh.

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You know, get your certifications and the paramedics,

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the hardest. I mean, that's too that... When

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I went, it was 2 years,

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let's see. 3 days a week, and you

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have to do over a thousand hours of

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clinical.

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Yeah. Absolutely Fighting am fine air It's sort

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of like,

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fight the fire. Yeah. Guys fix a human,

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a lot of stuff in a human.

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Go wrong. Pretty complex. Air Yeah. Rather. Yeah

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Not me, but it just

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You never. You open me up. I'm missed

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a couple little gears going here.

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There's a mouse in my head running really

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fast on a wheel. Yeah. Yeah. Shocks, doctors

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generally. Anyway,

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you take the test. You're... Is that young

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for firefighter? Very. I mean, 21? In India,

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why was in Indiana at the time and

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that... So you... That was the minimum age.

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Mh. You couldn't be a professional firefighter fighter

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unless you're 21. Mh. In Indiana.

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So death... I was right there. Now.

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Tell me about the first time you had

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to... Well, I assume that you had,

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in training. They sent you into fiery buildings.

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you're in a training situation, it knows. And

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so you don't have that total panic because

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you have people that are there,

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but the first time you went into an

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actual fire,

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how... What was that? Do you remember... Well,

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when you go... Like, when you go to

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the... When you get trained, the fires you,

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they're fires, but they're in a controlled environment.

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Sure. So it it doesn't really get you

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prepared for

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an actual uncontrolled fire in a house or

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build, you know, commercial building or whatever.

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was it was just a story and a

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half house

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pulled up, what happened was a a kid

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a back bedroom.

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go in, there's a living room. You go

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down the hall. There to right. There's a

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kitchen, and then that bedroom was off the

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kitchen. Mh.

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heavy smoke going across the street, and then

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there's... You can see flames coming from the

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back of the house, and

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it was a good fire. Was a good

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job, You know, And so the captain goes

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and there's just jet black, hot smoke before.

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And are you have breast for you of

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all sorts of things?

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Fc self contained breathing right. So you have

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a mask on, you know, you're breathing air.

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oxygen mask. But option is highly fl.

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wear something fl. No. It's just this just

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compressed. I never do that. Okay. Yeah. Compressed

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air. Okay.

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And you know, he he went he said,

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hey he'd stay right here. I was on

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a nozzle and that's what in in the

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fire department that's what you want. You wanna

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be on the nozzle. Right? Is that the

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water thing? This is where... Yeah. Where the

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where the water comes out. Of garden hose

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have the nozzle Yeah. Yeah. But on the

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fire same thing nozzle. Okay. The fire service

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they call a pipe, you know, you wanna

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be the pipe man. Everybody wants to your

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pipe man. That's that's what it's all about.

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The fire up. So he says stare right

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here. He went around back to call the

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windows out in the back,

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don't middle late to get the hot gases

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and smoke out. Right? Sure.

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So he came back around to the front.

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And he goes, alright.

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Let's go.

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And that was my baptism cherry popping

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the fire I went in the house and

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It was hot.

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Couldn't see. I you instantly lose your ability

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You have to use your other senses. You

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have you really go you know, you're hearing,

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your feel because you can feel even on

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your... You know, maybe on other right side

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of your body. You hotter than your left

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side, which means the fire brother or you're

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right? Sure. You can like, a campfire fire,

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people hear the crackling.

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You can hear that in fire. That's actually

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1 of the things you're kinda looking for.

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Or here they're trying to listen for you

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now. Yeah.

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So I went down the hallway.

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I actually ran head first into that wall

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on the back backside.

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And then happened to look to my right,

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and I could see the fire licking out

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of that bedroom into the kitchen.

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And know. I was pretty amped up, and

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like, captain I found it. I found it,

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you know, and

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So I spray Looking for the source. Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah. You wanna go to the source

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the the seat of the fire. Yeah.

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So the seat of the fire wasn't the

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kitchen. I tell that it was, you know,

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on the... It was all coming from that

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that Ben. And so I went the kitchen,

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and he had never really gone into the

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house with me because he was trying to

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hump hose.

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So I thought he was behind me the

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whole time.

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And but like, hump free listening then don't

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understand what that means. He wasn't having an

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erotic it.

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There's that means he's carrying, like, like, carrying

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the burden of the house. Right. Yeah. Right.

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Good sorry. You gotta... Yeah.

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Right. So he was kind of just inside

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the front door. So I was, like, I

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had crawled through this house, basically alone.

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And

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I looked back for him, and I yelled

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for him to to give me more hose.

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Right? Yeah. You know, hop more house. Yeah.

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And he

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he did it. So I knew he could

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hear me. And then I got into the

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kitchen,

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and I made it to the doorway

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where the fire was in in the whole

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room,

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if you can imagine,

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it's called flash over, you know, when when

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when there's a fire, the the contents of

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the room burn.

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And then when everything in that room reaches

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its combustible point, it everything catches on fire.

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So

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It doesn't need a flame to do it

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It just... No. Need... I mean, there the

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needs a flame. The... Okay. Right. You know,

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the flame burns. There's different so, like, a

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heat stage that it hits, and then it

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just goes cool. Well, everything in a room

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has its own combustion temperature. Like, your kitchen

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table will burn at this temperature. You know,

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the drywall burns at this temperature.

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But the whole room had... Was on are

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every inch of that room. It was hot

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talk about in there. Right. So I remember

340
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I I made it to the room and

341
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I went...

342
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This is the coolest fucking thing I've ever

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seeing. Yeah this is this is awesome. You

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know, Like, this is amazing. I I... It's

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just something that moment, like, you can... It's

346
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gonna be a weird thought though. So you're

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assuming here, you're thinking. I'm in the middle

348
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of a burning house, are there people in...

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But you're like, this is cool because it's

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the little boy in knew that

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wanted to be Fire man. It's now in

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the real

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moment. Yeah.

354
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Yeah. And you're kinda getting, you know, the

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fire service, you know, doesn't matter for your

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a man or woman. I mean you're you're

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engaged on

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tough, you know? Like, mental tough and physical

359
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tough, you know? And

360
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people want firefighters who can

361
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know, everybody is afraid. I don't give a

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shit you are. Like, if, you know, everybody

363
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has fear, but you have to be able

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to harness that fear. You have to tuck

365
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it away and, be able to go in

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and and do the job.

367
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So I got the room and

368
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I just saw for a second, and I

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kind of

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almost mesmerizing.

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I'm like, alright. Let's put this thing out.

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And,

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fire went app,

374
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and that was it? You know? So it

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would had stayed in that room mostly how

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you reach the... But, it was it was

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working its way to the kitchen,

378
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you know? And eventually, if we would have

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not done nothing the house were burned But

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if you get the seed,

381
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the rest is easy to maintain. Like, the

382
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seat of the fire? Oh, seat I think

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seed in

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seat of the 5 then the rest is

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easier to maintained. Yeah. You gotta go to

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the seat of the fire, you, if you

387
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if you generally, if you work your way

388
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to the seat of the fire, you can

389
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find, you know, where the fire extended to.

390
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They called extension. And I got check for

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extension, you know, maybe it it went up

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into the wall. And working its way up

393
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to the second floor during the second floor.

394
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It to get to that

395
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installation, which it burns like another. Yeah. It

396
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burns it burns it stinks and it sticks

397
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to you and it's just nasty. But, yeah.

398
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You wanna find the seat of the fire.

399
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That's objective.

400
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So at what what rating are those suits?

401
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How...

402
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And then comparatively, how hot is there a

403
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a limit to how hot a room, a

404
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house can burn or no limit because who

405
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knows what's in there?

406
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Well, it

407
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I mean, nikki... I've been in fires that

408
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there's was a thousand degrees over my head.

409
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So, like, I...

410
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God it... I mean, that's not way an

411
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easy question to answer. I mean, you yeah

412
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know, they're There's all different.

413
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A thousand

414
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degrees.

415
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Mh. And we did that was that was

416
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proof because we had a camera.

417
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A thermal camera on her hand that showed

418
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how hot it was at the ceiling level,

419
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and the captain put it up to the

420
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ceiling it. It was red, and it was

421
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the... Are you sweating balls and... It's a

422
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hundred pack... You automatically what without even being

423
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in a fire when when when you see

424
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a firefighter with but this gear on his

425
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helmet and his c pants and all that.

426
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And this... The the

427
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tank back.

428
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That's a hard. Yeah. So he's automatically carry

429
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the past. So we're having even got into

430
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the fact that he's going into an environment

431
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that's like an oven,

432
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and then he's dragon house.

433
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He's searching for a victim.

434
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He's

435
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tripping over all your furniture. Yeah. You know,

436
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there may holes in the floor. I mean

437
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there's just so many variables each and there's

438
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and there's always stuff following on you. Right.

439
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I mean, there's

440
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many stories of

441
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every firefighter they've been doing long enough. I

442
00:15:02,435 --> 00:15:03,710
can tell you, man and I have, like,

443
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and falling on me and knocked me to

444
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Floor.

445
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I mean those stories are just helpless. You

446
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know. You think it's just the amazing Yeah.

447
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He's definitely not the move It's real. Wow.

448
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So that was your first fire. He got

449
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it out, did it was the buoyant in

450
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side? No. Nobody was inside. In god.

451
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Unfortunately, a dog didn't make it.

452
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And breaks heart. Yeah. Me too.

453
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But

454
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you know,

455
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unfortunately, that stuff happens. Do you keep track

456
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of how many fires you've been in? Or

457
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is that a weird?

458
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Okay. Didn't know if that was sort of

459
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something that y'all in. I did for a

460
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while. Yeah. A lot of guys do for

461
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a while, but then... About years now? Have

462
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been doing it? Well, I don't know how

463
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yards. 34. So I did,

464
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15 years,

465
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you know, not all 15 years professionally,

466
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but a totally, you know, I started volunteering

467
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when I was 8 Yeah. So... What do

468
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they like volunteer firefighters do? They're.

469
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The Are they fun in there? Yeah. Wow.

470
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There. Amazing. Because so you know that volunteer

471
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firefighters fight brush fires and and wildfires and

472
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things like that. And we just recently didn't

473
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we lose a bunch of those last year,

474
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finding that.

475
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Big fire. So sad.

476
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That is. It's such a noble

477
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and terrifying and horrible thing.

478
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So have you ever been badly hurt? Not

479
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badly. Hurt. Not been burned.

480
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They got... Yeah. Been burned on my hands

481
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and my neck.

482
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You know, just... Sort of apart for the

483
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course. Is that normal?

484
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Yeah I think I think if you're a

485
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firefighter

486
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long enough Very get birth.

487
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Yeah. So I imagine...

488
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I'm not gonna speak for you. That's what

489
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you're here for. Mh. I imagine that the

490
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things you've seen

491
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are pretty intense. And I'm I'm sure you're

492
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seen beautiful things too because I was saying

493
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before we started recording that I always noticed

494
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that firefighters are the first on any scene

495
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of anything. It seems like... Mh. I'm pretty

496
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sure that's true. Sure. It might be kind

497
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of a grand statement, but I'm almost positive.

498
00:17:01,809 --> 00:17:04,944
That's true. And so you probably see a

499
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lot of really wonderful and a lot of

500
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really horrible things? Definitely. So how

501
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do you deal with all that stuff? Is

502
00:17:11,467 --> 00:17:14,582
there firefighter therapy, and you just... You say

503
00:17:14,582 --> 00:17:15,933
in turn... You know, you pushed stuff down,

504
00:17:16,012 --> 00:17:17,522
and you put your fear away, but after

505
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a while, that can't be super happy.

506
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For... Like, personally,

507
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you know, like,

508
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when you, like a normal family, you know,

509
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when they come home,

510
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the the parents come home cooked dinner or...

511
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And you sit at the kitchen table and

512
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you talk about your day. Right?

513
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It's a broad range of things.

514
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My conversation with my dad at the kitchen

515
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table was, you know, somebody blew their head

516
00:17:40,446 --> 00:17:40,606
off,

517
00:17:41,483 --> 00:17:42,519
that a house fire,

518
00:17:44,208 --> 00:17:45,161
people were trapped in it.

519
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And was all the things you would never

520
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think a kitchen... A dinner time conversation would

521
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be. Right? Sure. So I was pretty exposed

522
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to this

523
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or as I can remember. Mh So

524
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I kinda had, you know, I think I'm,

525
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I think I'm mainly tough naturally anyways. But

526
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I was

527
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ready for when when when I got into

528
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it. And

529
00:18:09,388 --> 00:18:11,710
I don't have nightmares nurse. I don't. I

530
00:18:11,710 --> 00:18:13,138
know some people do.

531
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Blessed. I don't think I I know. Yeah.

532
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Right. And then...

533
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But

534
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I can still

535
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tell you

536
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what a woman looks like. When her husband

537
00:18:25,462 --> 00:18:25,939
just died,

538
00:18:26,575 --> 00:18:28,561
and I go tell her, you know, sure

539
00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:28,974
I think,

540
00:18:29,773 --> 00:18:32,569
III know that look. And I've seen a

541
00:18:32,569 --> 00:18:34,188
look over and over in,

542
00:18:34,966 --> 00:18:35,685
multiple times.

543
00:18:36,814 --> 00:18:38,164
Or what a dead person looks like in

544
00:18:38,164 --> 00:18:38,561
a car,

545
00:18:39,435 --> 00:18:40,491
You know, it's not

546
00:18:41,262 --> 00:18:43,088
anything the human I ever have to see,

547
00:18:43,247 --> 00:18:45,392
you know. What is that due to you

548
00:18:45,392 --> 00:18:47,473
as a human being. Is that... I mean,

549
00:18:48,507 --> 00:18:49,007
to

550
00:18:49,382 --> 00:18:52,642
to see having seen someone die likely in

551
00:18:52,642 --> 00:18:54,888
your arms, I'm sure you've it's that, mh.

552
00:18:55,128 --> 00:18:57,466
Both as a paramedic and as a firefighter.

553
00:18:59,044 --> 00:19:01,601
And then seeing the other side, the life

554
00:19:01,601 --> 00:19:01,840
side,

555
00:19:02,654 --> 00:19:04,889
the beauty. And I mean, I think there's

556
00:19:04,889 --> 00:19:06,725
there's sort of a, I mean, sometimes grow

557
00:19:06,725 --> 00:19:08,800
test, beauty and death, but death has its

558
00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:09,518
moments as well.

559
00:19:11,289 --> 00:19:13,277
To that change? I you see you grew

560
00:19:13,277 --> 00:19:15,446
up in that And so the everyday dinner

561
00:19:15,582 --> 00:19:18,127
conversation was this guy died this lady died.

562
00:19:18,365 --> 00:19:20,686
This person, you know, arm fell off whatever.

563
00:19:21,243 --> 00:19:23,492
Do you do you think that made you

564
00:19:25,060 --> 00:19:26,014
trans how to ask this.

565
00:19:26,968 --> 00:19:28,797
Did it... You wouldn't have anything to compare

566
00:19:28,797 --> 00:19:30,890
it to because all you've ever known. But

567
00:19:30,890 --> 00:19:32,650
when you look at, like, your other friends

568
00:19:32,650 --> 00:19:34,089
and things who aren't in the field,

569
00:19:34,970 --> 00:19:37,697
do you think it's an how, like, I

570
00:19:37,697 --> 00:19:39,208
for lack of a better word warp to

571
00:19:39,208 --> 00:19:39,867
your sensibilities

572
00:19:40,242 --> 00:19:42,549
or made you more call or maybe made

573
00:19:42,549 --> 00:19:44,420
you more or or

574
00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,680
in in terms of your general life outside

575
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,480
of what you do?

576
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:50,640
Sure. And do you think your brothers and

577
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,174
sisters in you know, in firefight fighting? How

578
00:19:53,374 --> 00:19:53,874
that

579
00:19:54,728 --> 00:19:55,228
that

580
00:19:55,923 --> 00:19:56,321
issue or...

581
00:19:57,117 --> 00:19:58,631
That's a great question though. Because I would

582
00:19:58,631 --> 00:20:01,339
think seeing deaf a lot. Mh. You would

583
00:20:01,339 --> 00:20:03,745
then value death more do your your options

584
00:20:03,745 --> 00:20:05,340
really are you'll valued death more or you'll

585
00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:06,239
be like, a

586
00:20:06,696 --> 00:20:08,611
life, whatever. You what I mean? Mh.

587
00:20:09,648 --> 00:20:10,844
That's a good question though has ever asked

588
00:20:10,844 --> 00:20:11,642
me that before.

589
00:20:15,956 --> 00:20:16,615
I think

590
00:20:20,429 --> 00:20:22,269
as far as going to going to work,

591
00:20:23,630 --> 00:20:24,769
I don't think about

592
00:20:25,869 --> 00:20:27,069
this be the day that I die.

593
00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:28,269
You know?

594
00:20:29,723 --> 00:20:31,401
I don't think it really I have a

595
00:20:31,401 --> 00:20:32,040
lot of buddies,

596
00:20:32,679 --> 00:20:35,316
and I don't think that we we talk

597
00:20:35,316 --> 00:20:37,008
about it, but I don't think we think

598
00:20:37,008 --> 00:20:37,406
that way.

599
00:20:38,044 --> 00:20:39,581
You know, we go to work and

600
00:20:40,516 --> 00:20:42,212
we don't expect to see,

601
00:20:42,828 --> 00:20:45,634
you know, baked cookies and flowers growing you

602
00:20:45,634 --> 00:20:46,833
know, when when I go to work,

603
00:20:47,791 --> 00:20:50,529
I expect to see bad shit. Like. Some

604
00:20:50,588 --> 00:20:52,585
some... This today is gonna be someone's worst

605
00:20:52,585 --> 00:20:52,825
day.

606
00:20:53,399 --> 00:20:55,712
And and whatever capacity that's gonna be,

607
00:20:56,669 --> 00:20:57,148
who knows.

608
00:20:57,945 --> 00:20:59,402
But I I don't think

609
00:20:59,780 --> 00:21:02,114
I I value life. I value

610
00:21:02,651 --> 00:21:03,542
how fragile it is.

611
00:21:04,653 --> 00:21:07,113
And I really honestly try to live every

612
00:21:07,113 --> 00:21:08,304
day the best I can be, you know,

613
00:21:08,542 --> 00:21:09,042
and

614
00:21:09,891 --> 00:21:10,550
I think

615
00:21:10,938 --> 00:21:12,711
of firefighters as a whole, we

616
00:21:13,324 --> 00:21:14,835
we do as much as we can to

617
00:21:15,710 --> 00:21:17,618
you know, live it up? Yeah. It doesn't

618
00:21:17,618 --> 00:21:21,052
jeopardize loving relationships or friendships with that sense

619
00:21:21,052 --> 00:21:24,465
sort of... K Good way. Well, I mean,

620
00:21:25,577 --> 00:21:27,800
the relationships are hard period. Mh. Let's be

621
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,609
honest, but if you're in a situation where

622
00:21:30,609 --> 00:21:32,369
even though you're not thinking today, it's going

623
00:21:32,369 --> 00:21:33,890
to be maybe a dad Die. Because I

624
00:21:34,049 --> 00:21:35,250
I don't think you you would be able

625
00:21:35,250 --> 00:21:37,202
to do your job. If you went in

626
00:21:37,419 --> 00:21:38,455
with that mentality.

627
00:21:39,012 --> 00:21:40,685
Right? Because and fear would sort of have

628
00:21:40,685 --> 00:21:41,641
taken you over.

629
00:21:42,836 --> 00:21:45,635
But That being said, when you're in relationships

630
00:21:45,635 --> 00:21:48,101
with your family and friends and lovers,

631
00:21:50,328 --> 00:21:52,571
is always a possibility. So is there that

632
00:21:52,571 --> 00:21:55,596
sort of divide between you and another person

633
00:21:55,596 --> 00:21:57,269
or is it not a big deal? I'm

634
00:21:57,269 --> 00:21:59,043
asking, this is sort of like the cosmopolitan

635
00:21:59,100 --> 00:21:59,600
metropolitan

636
00:21:59,976 --> 00:22:01,821
mega scene section interview.

637
00:22:03,014 --> 00:22:05,241
Tell me out your love. How does it

638
00:22:05,321 --> 00:22:06,912
Is it hard to love? But, you know

639
00:22:06,912 --> 00:22:09,416
what I'm think it's an interesting question that's

640
00:22:09,871 --> 00:22:11,860
we live for. Right? So so we look

641
00:22:11,860 --> 00:22:13,713
we grow up we fall in love. We

642
00:22:13,770 --> 00:22:14,270
sure

643
00:22:15,043 --> 00:22:15,702
I think

644
00:22:17,841 --> 00:22:18,341
it's

645
00:22:18,874 --> 00:22:20,861
for us, I I couldn't speak for myself,

646
00:22:21,020 --> 00:22:22,371
but as a it's broad,

647
00:22:23,324 --> 00:22:23,563
you know,

648
00:22:24,214 --> 00:22:25,670
all of us. I think

649
00:22:26,286 --> 00:22:29,792
we are naturally loving. We're naturally nurturing. Makes

650
00:22:29,792 --> 00:22:31,599
sense. We naturally want to

651
00:22:32,196 --> 00:22:32,696
help

652
00:22:33,230 --> 00:22:35,297
fix the problem. We fix problems. That's what

653
00:22:35,297 --> 00:22:37,284
we do. Every day all day, we fix

654
00:22:37,284 --> 00:22:39,295
problems. Right? Mh. So

655
00:22:40,005 --> 00:22:41,444
I don't know if that's what makes appealing

656
00:22:41,444 --> 00:22:43,144
to women, you know, his

657
00:22:43,525 --> 00:22:45,605
when so much sexy calendar.

658
00:22:49,057 --> 00:22:50,495
When you're when you're younger. Right?

659
00:22:52,652 --> 00:22:53,770
I was in a calendar a long time

660
00:22:53,770 --> 00:22:54,901
ago. Was a lot though.

661
00:22:56,333 --> 00:22:58,638
No no. I... Ladies, he is not.

662
00:22:59,592 --> 00:23:00,092
He's

663
00:23:00,626 --> 00:23:01,500
fine for account.

664
00:23:05,251 --> 00:23:06,204
I I think we...

665
00:23:07,714 --> 00:23:09,779
You know, it's it's it's tough. I... As

666
00:23:09,779 --> 00:23:10,518
far as

667
00:23:11,924 --> 00:23:12,401
relationships go,

668
00:23:14,324 --> 00:23:16,420
it takes a special person to understand

669
00:23:18,555 --> 00:23:20,550
kind of... And they don't understand, but it

670
00:23:20,550 --> 00:23:21,609
takes someone

671
00:23:22,147 --> 00:23:22,966
special to

672
00:23:23,839 --> 00:23:25,839
get the fact that we go to the

673
00:23:25,839 --> 00:23:28,159
firehouse for 24 hours. We're not at home.

674
00:23:28,319 --> 00:23:29,200
So that's hard enough.

675
00:23:29,839 --> 00:23:30,559
Sure. You know,

676
00:23:31,774 --> 00:23:33,765
So you you kind of want someone is

677
00:23:33,765 --> 00:23:36,234
independent. Mh. That doesn't have to have us

678
00:23:36,234 --> 00:23:37,906
around all the time. But yet,

679
00:23:38,942 --> 00:23:40,136
when we come home in the morning,

680
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:41,690
and we

681
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:42,309
quiet.

682
00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:44,230
We may not talk,

683
00:23:46,230 --> 00:23:47,669
is talking about as we normally are.

684
00:23:48,643 --> 00:23:50,160
And they could just send some not right,

685
00:23:51,916 --> 00:23:52,714
that they have...

686
00:23:54,470 --> 00:23:56,247
They're strong enough person to

687
00:23:56,959 --> 00:23:58,395
say what's going on. Like, talk to me,

688
00:23:58,475 --> 00:24:00,471
you know? I I wanna I wanna help

689
00:24:00,471 --> 00:24:02,227
you. I I have... And I have a

690
00:24:02,227 --> 00:24:04,222
lot of respect for someone that goes. I

691
00:24:04,222 --> 00:24:06,232
have no idea what you saw. No idea

692
00:24:06,232 --> 00:24:07,029
what you're going through,

693
00:24:07,667 --> 00:24:08,784
but I love you what I'm here for

694
00:24:08,784 --> 00:24:11,756
you. Sure. And, you know, I wanna wanna

695
00:24:11,814 --> 00:24:12,930
just hop about it if you want to.

696
00:24:13,170 --> 00:24:13,329
Yeah.

697
00:24:14,939 --> 00:24:15,439
But

698
00:24:16,454 --> 00:24:18,688
yeah Just... Do you find you need personally

699
00:24:18,688 --> 00:24:20,384
a lot of intros intersect time

700
00:24:21,878 --> 00:24:24,510
after a day, after a day's work that

701
00:24:24,510 --> 00:24:26,360
sees Mean, I I imagine not every day

702
00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:28,354
is in insane. Right. I have some days

703
00:24:28,354 --> 00:24:28,832
where you're free.

704
00:24:29,710 --> 00:24:31,624
Pre chill, cats and trees. Do you have

705
00:24:31,624 --> 00:24:33,219
you ever pull the cat a tree? I

706
00:24:33,219 --> 00:24:35,148
gotta ask that 1. Come my god. Does

707
00:24:35,148 --> 00:24:36,825
that actually happened to you feel golden the

708
00:24:36,825 --> 00:24:38,821
card? I really done. Oh, I get. Like,

709
00:24:39,220 --> 00:24:41,535
you know, filming someone's swimming pool, People want

710
00:24:41,535 --> 00:24:43,451
that. What? Yeah. Actually you know, the trucks

711
00:24:43,451 --> 00:24:45,220
carry a lot of water Are you for

712
00:24:45,220 --> 00:24:46,755
real? I say

713
00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:48,962
we tried to meet and a guy. We

714
00:24:49,838 --> 00:24:51,112
we had a call once to pull a

715
00:24:51,112 --> 00:24:52,647
pad out of a tree, and,

716
00:24:53,277 --> 00:24:54,812
okay. Well, we thought was someone's

717
00:24:55,187 --> 00:24:57,177
pet. Right? But it was a feral cat,

718
00:24:57,336 --> 00:24:58,929
And we didn't figure this out until, like,

719
00:24:59,167 --> 00:25:00,520
we were up in the tree in the

720
00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:02,842
cat obviously, feral cats not even close to

721
00:25:02,842 --> 00:25:03,320
you. Right?

722
00:25:04,195 --> 00:25:05,627
And we found out it was a feral

723
00:25:05,627 --> 00:25:06,183
cat and I'm, like,

724
00:25:06,899 --> 00:25:08,265
puts some food at the on the tree

725
00:25:08,265 --> 00:25:10,590
that things gonna come down in. Like, everything

726
00:25:10,725 --> 00:25:11,383
is hungry.

727
00:25:11,835 --> 00:25:13,422
Sellers in workplace. Right?

728
00:25:14,851 --> 00:25:16,927
I'm Into a we into of those. I

729
00:25:16,927 --> 00:25:18,061
in every now and again,

730
00:25:18,512 --> 00:25:21,523
you know. Yeah. People appreciate that. Absolutely. So...

731
00:25:22,077 --> 00:25:24,554
Yeah. Mh. I remember, It I wasn't that

732
00:25:24,554 --> 00:25:27,125
long ago that people were in a t

733
00:25:27,342 --> 00:25:29,913
because people need things to be upset about

734
00:25:30,767 --> 00:25:33,094
about the fact that you would go the

735
00:25:33,094 --> 00:25:34,772
firefighter to go to the grocery store to

736
00:25:34,772 --> 00:25:36,769
get their food. Mh. And people were upset

737
00:25:36,769 --> 00:25:37,749
that it was on

738
00:25:38,208 --> 00:25:39,007
company time.

739
00:25:39,806 --> 00:25:41,493
I was so mad of people that were

740
00:25:41,493 --> 00:25:43,817
mad about that. Right. And it's, like, really

741
00:25:43,872 --> 00:25:46,726
good. I mean cheese. Right. I mean, what

742
00:25:46,726 --> 00:25:48,232
what do you expect us to do, Nutty

743
00:25:48,232 --> 00:25:49,517
eat I exactly.

744
00:25:50,073 --> 00:25:52,637
Exactly. We're there for 24 hours and and

745
00:25:52,851 --> 00:25:53,963
people say well you sleep,

746
00:25:54,677 --> 00:25:56,599
well, we try to. Yeah. But if the

747
00:25:56,599 --> 00:25:58,519
alarm goes off you're up and up. And.

748
00:25:58,679 --> 00:26:00,460
I mean, our for hours

749
00:26:00,839 --> 00:26:03,000
hours and... Are so screwed up. Yeah. You

750
00:26:03,000 --> 00:26:04,619
just... You've never

751
00:26:05,332 --> 00:26:07,562
hardly ever get really good nights. Even if

752
00:26:07,562 --> 00:26:08,677
you don't have a call in the middle

753
00:26:08,677 --> 00:26:09,154
of the night,

754
00:26:09,871 --> 00:26:11,623
you don't get that deep sleep like you

755
00:26:11,623 --> 00:26:14,105
would hire because you're kinda on call on

756
00:26:14,105 --> 00:26:16,413
your brain somewhere. Yeah. Yeah.

757
00:26:17,208 --> 00:26:19,754
You can criticize a lot of people's career

758
00:26:19,754 --> 00:26:22,061
choices but I don't know or, you know,

759
00:26:22,141 --> 00:26:24,304
what they do in their jobs, stealing some

760
00:26:24,304 --> 00:26:26,054
pens here and their, sticky notes,

761
00:26:26,611 --> 00:26:26,929
you know,

762
00:26:27,804 --> 00:26:30,867
shouldn't shoot unarmed. That's my own philosophy,

763
00:26:31,325 --> 00:26:32,760
but that's a whole another story.

764
00:26:33,558 --> 00:26:35,792
But it's pretty hard to find fault with

765
00:26:35,792 --> 00:26:38,836
a firefighter My cash. Mh. I I... Like,

766
00:26:39,075 --> 00:26:40,667
you know, even my friends that aren't in

767
00:26:40,667 --> 00:26:41,384
the industry,

768
00:26:42,817 --> 00:26:45,149
they're loving people, obviously, you. And

769
00:26:46,017 --> 00:26:47,051
I'm a terrible person.

770
00:26:50,392 --> 00:26:50,710
But

771
00:26:52,142 --> 00:26:53,676
yeah. You know I I have

772
00:26:54,703 --> 00:26:57,327
just a a broad range of of friends,

773
00:26:57,486 --> 00:27:00,132
you know, and and I blend

774
00:27:00,746 --> 00:27:02,415
well, obviously, with the guys that, you know,

775
00:27:02,574 --> 00:27:03,926
the men and women that do the job.

776
00:27:04,579 --> 00:27:06,097
But also doing well with the people that

777
00:27:06,097 --> 00:27:07,216
don't. Civilians.

778
00:27:07,776 --> 00:27:10,094
You can call civilians. We don't mind. That's

779
00:27:10,094 --> 00:27:10,253
okay.

780
00:27:11,692 --> 00:27:13,311
So do you have any particular

781
00:27:15,384 --> 00:27:15,884
anything

782
00:27:16,345 --> 00:27:18,585
that you've experienced that stands out to you?

783
00:27:19,304 --> 00:27:21,404
Oh, there's just so many. I don't

784
00:27:22,595 --> 00:27:24,739
Well, it's not, like, necessarily me. I mean,

785
00:27:25,057 --> 00:27:27,225
you know, this firefight isn't

786
00:27:27,916 --> 00:27:29,663
me me need my my mind. No. Of

787
00:27:29,663 --> 00:27:32,392
course. It's definitely a team sport. Right? Sure.

788
00:27:33,031 --> 00:27:34,470
And when you pull up on a fire,

789
00:27:35,269 --> 00:27:37,027
and it's going room... The fire, you know,

790
00:27:37,666 --> 00:27:38,465
really going good.

791
00:27:39,677 --> 00:27:40,550
Everybody has wrong job.

792
00:27:41,344 --> 00:27:42,613
You know, some guy... You know, there's a

793
00:27:42,613 --> 00:27:43,803
guy a team of guys that go in

794
00:27:43,803 --> 00:27:44,993
with the nozzle with Piper and but the...

795
00:27:45,152 --> 00:27:46,104
You know that ahead of time?

796
00:27:46,834 --> 00:27:48,272
Know, Yeah. When you get to this fire,

797
00:27:48,592 --> 00:27:51,068
Yeah. Joe's doing this. Sarah's doing this, Bill's

798
00:27:51,068 --> 00:27:53,145
is doing this. Yeah. Okay. We're really good

799
00:27:53,145 --> 00:27:53,465
planners.

800
00:27:53,958 --> 00:27:55,152
Ahead of time And, yeah. And we can

801
00:27:55,152 --> 00:27:56,981
really... When you get there, the fire could

802
00:27:56,981 --> 00:27:59,447
be different times that change anything or is

803
00:27:59,447 --> 00:28:01,436
it sometimes times... Okay. You know, sometimes but

804
00:28:01,436 --> 00:28:02,152
then again, like,

805
00:28:02,884 --> 00:28:04,343
we're really good at

806
00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:07,757
going up to a scene, whether it's a

807
00:28:07,757 --> 00:28:09,056
a wreck or a fire

808
00:28:09,849 --> 00:28:12,246
And because obviously, it's chaos, sun control. No

809
00:28:12,246 --> 00:28:12,885
matter what it is,

810
00:28:13,844 --> 00:28:15,761
and we go up and and we are

811
00:28:15,761 --> 00:28:16,821
the people that

812
00:28:18,882 --> 00:28:21,980
make those decisions to start to mitigate the

813
00:28:21,980 --> 00:28:23,568
situation. You know, we try to harness it

814
00:28:23,568 --> 00:28:25,474
and stop it from getting any worse than

815
00:28:25,474 --> 00:28:26,586
what it already is. Right?

816
00:28:27,634 --> 00:28:29,484
So we have an ability to,

817
00:28:29,937 --> 00:28:32,185
you know, generally, you have a a plan

818
00:28:32,638 --> 00:28:35,101
that's already... You know, everybody knows. But if

819
00:28:35,101 --> 00:28:36,292
the plan has to change,

820
00:28:37,182 --> 00:28:39,731
then, you know, the boss or Captain or,

821
00:28:39,891 --> 00:28:41,802
you know, the cheek for whoever, who's in

822
00:28:41,802 --> 00:28:42,041
charge,

823
00:28:43,714 --> 00:28:45,466
can say, let's do this a little different.

824
00:28:46,596 --> 00:28:47,813
Let's go in and and

825
00:28:48,666 --> 00:28:50,338
do it Mh and try to try to

826
00:28:50,338 --> 00:28:51,532
make this situation better.

827
00:28:52,807 --> 00:28:53,943
Sometimes you

828
00:28:54,575 --> 00:28:54,815
do,

829
00:28:55,455 --> 00:28:56,515
you know, sometimes,

830
00:28:58,975 --> 00:29:00,494
doesn't wanna work on your favor. We don't

831
00:29:00,494 --> 00:29:01,055
like to lose.

832
00:29:01,775 --> 00:29:03,544
You know, firefighters don't like to lose.

833
00:29:04,260 --> 00:29:05,854
We like to we like to win, you

834
00:29:05,854 --> 00:29:06,491
know, and

835
00:29:07,766 --> 00:29:09,279
it's pretty much a competitive sport.

836
00:29:10,315 --> 00:29:11,293
You, We're

837
00:29:12,004 --> 00:29:12,964
generally type,

838
00:29:14,884 --> 00:29:15,384
and,

839
00:29:17,125 --> 00:29:18,164
you know, tough.

840
00:29:19,778 --> 00:29:21,236
Tough. Mh. And

841
00:29:22,252 --> 00:29:23,471
I got friends that

842
00:29:24,407 --> 00:29:26,323
on Chicago fire department got friends on the

843
00:29:26,323 --> 00:29:26,882
new Sea.

844
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,055
Turn

845
00:29:28,653 --> 00:29:30,567
and we no matter where you are. Even

846
00:29:30,567 --> 00:29:32,642
mean if you're a volunteer firearm. And, you

847
00:29:32,642 --> 00:29:34,897
know, and those guys, I feel bad for

848
00:29:35,369 --> 00:29:36,669
from the standpoint that

849
00:29:37,767 --> 00:29:38,267
volunteering.

850
00:29:38,726 --> 00:29:40,324
Oh, the volunteers Yeah. I mean,

851
00:29:41,123 --> 00:29:42,561
the guys I work with are great. They

852
00:29:42,561 --> 00:29:44,080
they they may be in the fields. Like,

853
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,727
because it from Indiana. Right? So in the

854
00:29:46,727 --> 00:29:49,040
middle of the farm fields. Right? And they

855
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,316
they go out and they're in the work

856
00:29:50,316 --> 00:29:51,672
in the fields, and they get this call

857
00:29:51,672 --> 00:29:53,347
on this pager and they go when they

858
00:29:53,347 --> 00:29:53,847
they

859
00:29:54,477 --> 00:29:56,383
do the same thing I'm doing, but I'm

860
00:29:56,383 --> 00:29:58,685
at the firehouse waiting for it. Mh. Right?

861
00:29:58,844 --> 00:30:00,535
So these guys aren't getting paid

862
00:30:01,146 --> 00:30:02,416
per. I and they may make a little

863
00:30:02,416 --> 00:30:03,234
bit. But

864
00:30:03,623 --> 00:30:06,191
they're doing the same stuff. Sure. And

865
00:30:08,793 --> 00:30:09,032
yeah.

866
00:30:09,907 --> 00:30:13,021
What do delineate stuff alarms because I've heard

867
00:30:13,021 --> 00:30:14,689
things we call. Oh, that's a 5 alarm

868
00:30:14,689 --> 00:30:16,198
or a poor alarm. Is that a real

869
00:30:16,198 --> 00:30:17,549
thing or is that? Is that a movie

870
00:30:17,549 --> 00:30:19,870
thing? No. That's real. That's something. So, generally,

871
00:30:20,030 --> 00:30:20,189
like,

872
00:30:21,304 --> 00:30:23,057
it depends kind of on the city structure

873
00:30:23,057 --> 00:30:25,288
too. Mh. Like, if you get what's called

874
00:30:25,288 --> 00:30:27,200
still alarm, STIL,

875
00:30:27,598 --> 00:30:27,837
still,

876
00:30:28,729 --> 00:30:30,727
Oh, that maybe be on house fire. Right?

877
00:30:30,887 --> 00:30:31,287
Or or

878
00:30:32,325 --> 00:30:33,684
May star as a small apartment.

879
00:30:35,362 --> 00:30:37,360
But then again, like, apartments are usually a

880
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,519
little bit or so they may be what's

881
00:30:39,519 --> 00:30:41,582
called a box alarm. And all that means

882
00:30:41,582 --> 00:30:43,803
is, like, you get more companies, like, companies

883
00:30:43,803 --> 00:30:46,366
meaning fire trucks. Showing up? Yeah. Oh, okay.

884
00:30:46,606 --> 00:30:48,203
On the initial dispatch. Like, if it's a

885
00:30:48,203 --> 00:30:50,518
still, you may get, you know, depending on

886
00:30:50,518 --> 00:30:52,674
the city. Every is different. But for the

887
00:30:52,674 --> 00:30:54,430
sake of of the story, let's just say

888
00:30:54,430 --> 00:30:56,756
you can get 2 engines and a ladder

889
00:30:56,756 --> 00:31:00,262
truck. And engines that the the truck the

890
00:31:00,660 --> 00:31:02,254
truck that carries the water. An engine is?

891
00:31:02,493 --> 00:31:04,539
Yeah. Mh. A fire engine. That's the 1

892
00:31:04,579 --> 00:31:06,170
a dog. Yeah. Right.

893
00:31:07,045 --> 00:31:08,635
Are you all get a dog when you

894
00:31:08,635 --> 00:31:10,941
arrive? Those fire have dogs. That's the best?

895
00:31:11,180 --> 00:31:13,422
Yeah. Usually they're dumpster dogs we take them

896
00:31:13,422 --> 00:31:15,731
in, but they're good dogs. Nevertheless. But

897
00:31:18,121 --> 00:31:19,713
yeah. And then you have a truck truck

898
00:31:19,713 --> 00:31:21,599
company. Like, that's the that's the piece of

899
00:31:21,719 --> 00:31:23,317
equipment with the ladder on top? Mh. To

900
00:31:23,317 --> 00:31:25,395
get to the top of the parts. That

901
00:31:25,395 --> 00:31:27,632
they can use people or sure. Sure.

902
00:31:29,150 --> 00:31:29,605
So

903
00:31:30,992 --> 00:31:32,816
you have the box alarm, and then that's

904
00:31:32,816 --> 00:31:35,037
maybe an apartment. So like, if it's if

905
00:31:35,037 --> 00:31:36,647
it's a box alarm, you'll get

906
00:31:37,828 --> 00:31:40,691
maybe 3 or 4 engines, a couple ladder

907
00:31:40,691 --> 00:31:43,235
trucks. Mh. And then, you know, maybe a

908
00:31:44,348 --> 00:31:46,178
extra chief as a chief goes because he's

909
00:31:46,178 --> 00:31:47,865
like the boss, like the big boss. You're

910
00:31:47,865 --> 00:31:49,545
gonna have a big boss. Right? Mh But

911
00:31:49,545 --> 00:31:51,144
on these fire trucks, I don't have a

912
00:31:51,144 --> 00:31:51,545
big bus.

913
00:31:53,545 --> 00:31:54,825
That doesn't workout well with me.

914
00:31:58,587 --> 00:31:59,699
That's another podcast.

915
00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:03,964
But every piece of equipment like the ladder

916
00:32:04,084 --> 00:32:06,467
properly engine has, like, an officer on it.

917
00:32:06,705 --> 00:32:08,533
Mh. You know, the officers off, then you

918
00:32:08,533 --> 00:32:09,962
put, like, itinerary the guy that's been the

919
00:32:09,962 --> 00:32:12,707
longest up in the front see because, generally

920
00:32:12,766 --> 00:32:13,884
can make sound decision.

921
00:32:14,682 --> 00:32:16,359
But then you get... So if you go

922
00:32:16,359 --> 00:32:17,875
to an apartment fire, and it's it's a

923
00:32:17,875 --> 00:32:19,552
box alone. Right? So you get all these

924
00:32:19,552 --> 00:32:21,798
companies going on there. The chief gets there

925
00:32:21,798 --> 00:32:23,230
and he goes, man this thing's getting out

926
00:32:23,230 --> 00:32:25,321
of control or having a hard time making

927
00:32:25,617 --> 00:32:28,811
the situation better. So the firearms getting bigger.

928
00:32:29,287 --> 00:32:29,525
Right?

929
00:32:30,477 --> 00:32:31,270
He'll say give me

930
00:32:32,302 --> 00:32:35,024
second alarm. So then you'll have, like, maybe

931
00:32:35,333 --> 00:32:37,477
2 more engines and another ladder truck and

932
00:32:37,477 --> 00:32:39,145
another chief come and maybe a rest... You

933
00:32:39,145 --> 00:32:41,052
another rescue company or, you know, because you

934
00:32:41,052 --> 00:32:43,912
have guys in rescue companies that their primary

935
00:32:43,912 --> 00:32:45,755
jobs to surf and search people.

936
00:32:47,188 --> 00:32:49,735
Still in the full Regalia gear. Always. Right.

937
00:32:49,974 --> 00:32:51,646
But they're not they're not concentrating on the

938
00:32:51,646 --> 00:32:52,894
fire, They're concentrating

939
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:54,043
finding the people.

940
00:32:54,677 --> 00:32:57,292
Sure. Hopefully not bodies, but people. Right. Right.

941
00:32:57,529 --> 00:32:58,639
So you have like, the Engine cutter, like

942
00:32:58,639 --> 00:33:00,556
I said, put the firearm. The truck company

943
00:33:00,556 --> 00:33:02,645
they do like, they search for for victims

944
00:33:02,701 --> 00:33:03,336
or they'll do

945
00:33:03,971 --> 00:33:05,719
any type of ventilation like, maybe cut on

946
00:33:05,719 --> 00:33:07,466
the roof, knockout out windows,

947
00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:10,983
do any enforce entry. Which like, knocking doors

948
00:33:10,983 --> 00:33:12,662
or, you know, 4 doors open their tools

949
00:33:12,662 --> 00:33:13,061
for that.

950
00:33:14,500 --> 00:33:16,018
Then you know, maybe... If it's a bigger

951
00:33:16,018 --> 00:33:17,776
city, you had a a rescue company, and

952
00:33:17,776 --> 00:33:20,423
they they may do just like, the searching

953
00:33:20,423 --> 00:33:21,932
for victims or the chief may say, hey,

954
00:33:22,091 --> 00:33:24,236
grab another hose line and go in and

955
00:33:24,236 --> 00:33:24,736
help

956
00:33:25,189 --> 00:33:27,855
those guys put the fire out. Too. So

957
00:33:28,315 --> 00:33:30,474
it just really depends on the department where

958
00:33:30,474 --> 00:33:31,355
you're at in the country,

959
00:33:32,234 --> 00:33:34,234
and really the situation because the chief might,

960
00:33:34,315 --> 00:33:35,674
you know, mix up a little bit.

961
00:33:36,728 --> 00:33:38,004
But, yeah. So...

962
00:33:40,237 --> 00:33:41,911
Very interesting. Yeah. And then you can go

963
00:33:41,911 --> 00:33:43,665
from, like, a a second alarm, third alarm

964
00:33:43,665 --> 00:33:46,468
fourth alarm, fifth alarm. They lay people in

965
00:33:46,468 --> 00:33:48,059
the building when it's a flat alarm?

966
00:33:48,775 --> 00:33:49,275
Generally,

967
00:33:49,650 --> 00:33:51,638
at that point, it's a defensive fire. Right?

968
00:33:51,797 --> 00:33:54,279
So you you you... It's... You're just those

969
00:33:54,279 --> 00:33:56,113
aren't very... They don't have them very often.

970
00:33:56,272 --> 00:33:57,788
Right? No. I mean, not every.

971
00:33:58,506 --> 00:34:00,340
I mean, maybe in the country, they may

972
00:34:00,340 --> 00:34:00,840
happen,

973
00:34:03,052 --> 00:34:03,744
once a month

974
00:34:04,263 --> 00:34:05,460
a week. I don't wanna, you know, there's

975
00:34:05,460 --> 00:34:06,897
big fires in the country today.

976
00:34:07,615 --> 00:34:07,934
But

977
00:34:08,892 --> 00:34:10,807
Out don't of know the statistics, but generally

978
00:34:10,807 --> 00:34:11,900
if you're at AA5

979
00:34:12,259 --> 00:34:14,896
alarm fire, you know, some departments called 05:11,

980
00:34:15,295 --> 00:34:16,175
then you'll have

981
00:34:17,054 --> 00:34:18,193
you'll be outside

982
00:34:18,572 --> 00:34:20,985
with those lines from outside. Okay. No. In

983
00:34:20,985 --> 00:34:23,385
the building? If you, if that you you

984
00:34:23,385 --> 00:34:25,224
hope. At that point. I mean, none of

985
00:34:25,224 --> 00:34:26,744
the firefighters are in the building.

986
00:34:27,465 --> 00:34:29,875
At that be hoping... Yeah. Hope not that.

987
00:34:30,193 --> 00:34:30,907
Right? I mean,

988
00:34:31,623 --> 00:34:33,791
there's been plenty of fires where

989
00:34:34,721 --> 00:34:35,856
we go into

990
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:38,942
and it's getting bad and the chiefs out

991
00:34:38,942 --> 00:34:41,560
front going we're done pull everybody out, You

992
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,250
know, and there's a procedure where

993
00:34:44,908 --> 00:34:47,397
the dispatcher will do alarms on the radio

994
00:34:47,454 --> 00:34:49,204
and then the the guys on the fire

995
00:34:49,204 --> 00:34:50,876
engines will sound the aero horns and, you

996
00:34:50,876 --> 00:34:52,865
know, they'll they'll... That means we can hear

997
00:34:52,865 --> 00:34:54,551
that, and that means got billing.

998
00:34:55,188 --> 00:34:57,893
So we'll leave the building and we'll transition

999
00:34:57,893 --> 00:34:59,667
from, like, an interior

1000
00:35:00,042 --> 00:35:02,191
attack, that called interior attack to a defensive

1001
00:35:02,271 --> 00:35:03,876
Mh. Exterior attack. Mh.

1002
00:35:04,432 --> 00:35:04,670
So...

1003
00:35:05,385 --> 00:35:07,155
You to make sure the building's

1004
00:35:07,529 --> 00:35:09,514
nearby, do you hose those down as well

1005
00:35:09,514 --> 00:35:11,754
to keep them from? Depends. Sure. Okay. Yeah.

1006
00:35:11,914 --> 00:35:13,272
So I here's... This is more of a

1007
00:35:13,272 --> 00:35:15,689
chemistry question. So when I'm building a fire

1008
00:35:16,068 --> 00:35:18,145
at the campsite site, you've... I blow on

1009
00:35:18,145 --> 00:35:21,113
it, to make the flames go up. So

1010
00:35:21,113 --> 00:35:23,507
why... If you put holes and walls to

1011
00:35:23,507 --> 00:35:25,842
get airflow, isn't that making

1012
00:35:27,268 --> 00:35:27,824
more fire?

1013
00:35:28,619 --> 00:35:30,050
Can't I can't if you do it wrong.

1014
00:35:30,607 --> 00:35:33,071
No, and and not necessarily wrong, but... You're

1015
00:35:33,071 --> 00:35:33,730
a sorcerer.

1016
00:35:34,105 --> 00:35:34,264
Yeah.

1017
00:35:35,948 --> 00:35:37,164
So, like, fire generally

1018
00:35:37,698 --> 00:35:40,801
moves up and out. And like it's a

1019
00:35:40,801 --> 00:35:44,180
it's a vertical and lateral travel Okay? So

1020
00:35:44,236 --> 00:35:45,666
when we cut holes in the roof, what

1021
00:35:45,666 --> 00:35:48,051
we wanna do is get the fire that's

1022
00:35:48,051 --> 00:35:50,458
going up and out kind of channel

1023
00:35:51,009 --> 00:35:53,406
to go up through the hole, and then

1024
00:35:53,406 --> 00:35:55,323
the heat, the super heated gases and stuff,

1025
00:35:55,563 --> 00:35:57,640
they go, you know, they travel up as

1026
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,046
well. That's why people say, if your house

1027
00:36:00,046 --> 00:36:02,197
on fire stay on the floor because all

1028
00:36:02,197 --> 00:36:03,870
the smoke and everything goes to the ceiling

1029
00:36:03,870 --> 00:36:05,543
first. Right? And the banks down and starts

1030
00:36:05,543 --> 00:36:06,043
layering

1031
00:36:06,420 --> 00:36:07,137
as it gets worse.

1032
00:36:08,107 --> 00:36:10,251
So, yeah. All that super heated gas and

1033
00:36:10,251 --> 00:36:12,554
fire and smoke goes through the hole, and

1034
00:36:12,554 --> 00:36:15,094
then everything kind of inside lifts a little

1035
00:36:15,094 --> 00:36:16,620
bit, You know, you may have a little

1036
00:36:16,620 --> 00:36:18,610
bit of lift off the floor, so then

1037
00:36:18,610 --> 00:36:20,145
it makes the heat less

1038
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,192
smoke less. Makes sense. And it makes it

1039
00:36:22,192 --> 00:36:23,545
easier for the guys on the pipe on

1040
00:36:23,545 --> 00:36:24,898
the engine to go and put the fire

1041
00:36:24,898 --> 00:36:27,148
up. Yeah. Yeah. But if you if you

1042
00:36:27,148 --> 00:36:27,867
vent wrong,

1043
00:36:28,906 --> 00:36:29,885
then you can

1044
00:36:30,424 --> 00:36:30,924
control

1045
00:36:31,383 --> 00:36:32,422
basically no,

1046
00:36:33,620 --> 00:36:34,074
not

1047
00:36:34,748 --> 00:36:35,248
intentionally

1048
00:36:35,620 --> 00:36:37,126
where the fire goes? You could pull the

1049
00:36:37,126 --> 00:36:40,375
fire actually. Toward you. What toward you this

1050
00:36:40,375 --> 00:36:41,327
way, that way,

1051
00:36:41,979 --> 00:36:43,657
So you kind of... There's rhyme in a

1052
00:36:43,657 --> 00:36:45,915
reason to a a building. Is

1053
00:36:46,614 --> 00:36:47,573
your favor movie.

1054
00:36:48,452 --> 00:36:51,184
And of course. I knew you're I knew

1055
00:36:51,184 --> 00:36:52,065
it was in there somewhere.

1056
00:36:53,264 --> 00:36:55,264
So, yeah it's a very good movie.

1057
00:36:56,464 --> 00:36:57,424
That was based off.

1058
00:36:59,677 --> 00:37:00,337
How really?

1059
00:37:00,715 --> 00:37:00,955
No.

1060
00:37:01,994 --> 00:37:02,793
Off 2 brothers.

1061
00:37:03,672 --> 00:37:06,003
Chicago. Really? Yeah. The hof brother. So I'm

1062
00:37:06,003 --> 00:37:07,278
interesting. Ray, Bobby.

1063
00:37:08,156 --> 00:37:09,751
Is there a psyche valid that happens to

1064
00:37:09,751 --> 00:37:12,542
make sure that firefighters aren't actually arson because

1065
00:37:12,622 --> 00:37:13,898
I would think if I was an arson

1066
00:37:13,898 --> 00:37:14,796
that would be

1067
00:37:15,109 --> 00:37:17,764
the cream of the gene of the crop

1068
00:37:18,461 --> 00:37:19,978
of a job. Well, let me answer your

1069
00:37:19,978 --> 00:37:22,612
question first. Okay. Previously, I love bad draft.

1070
00:37:22,772 --> 00:37:25,422
Yeah. Movie. About a 40 ninth good too.

1071
00:37:26,141 --> 00:37:28,160
Oh, I don't see that 1. Yeah. So

1072
00:37:28,859 --> 00:37:31,516
actually, 1 of the best movies slash documentaries

1073
00:37:31,576 --> 00:37:32,295
have seen perm.

1074
00:37:32,947 --> 00:37:35,417
I called burn. I pay on Detroit. Oh,

1075
00:37:35,656 --> 00:37:38,125
those guys... Those guys I have 80000 bacon

1076
00:37:38,125 --> 00:37:40,196
buildings in Detroit, and they get fires all

1077
00:37:40,196 --> 00:37:42,603
the time. Oh, man. So if anybody wants

1078
00:37:42,603 --> 00:37:44,679
to see a good documentary, you can Youtube

1079
00:37:44,679 --> 00:37:46,435
it. What awards in on? Yeah. It is.

1080
00:37:46,914 --> 00:37:47,233
Really is.

1081
00:37:48,990 --> 00:37:51,519
So what was your question again? III

1082
00:37:51,639 --> 00:37:52,513
something stupid. I'm sure.

1083
00:37:54,261 --> 00:37:55,874
So have you

1084
00:37:56,248 --> 00:37:56,748
personally

1085
00:37:58,393 --> 00:38:00,872
been in a situation where you thought I'm

1086
00:38:00,872 --> 00:38:02,861
not getting out of this. Yeah. Well, so

1087
00:38:02,861 --> 00:38:04,054
can you talk about that a little bit?

1088
00:38:04,213 --> 00:38:06,384
And so what sort of went went through

1089
00:38:06,679 --> 00:38:07,315
the brain pan?

1090
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:09,716
There was...

1091
00:38:11,147 --> 00:38:12,340
Let's see. Me,

1092
00:38:14,487 --> 00:38:15,225
there were

1093
00:38:16,014 --> 00:38:16,811
5 of us total.

1094
00:38:19,922 --> 00:38:21,756
It was Jeez. It was we were up

1095
00:38:21,756 --> 00:38:24,309
late. The captain was off. The senior man

1096
00:38:24,309 --> 00:38:24,548
was

1097
00:38:25,266 --> 00:38:25,917
in charge charge,

1098
00:38:26,868 --> 00:38:29,088
and there was it was 01:00 in the

1099
00:38:29,088 --> 00:38:30,991
morning. I distinctly remembered to this day. I

1100
00:38:30,991 --> 00:38:32,893
was actually in the living room, that I

1101
00:38:32,893 --> 00:38:34,501
just happened at the clock, and it just

1102
00:38:34,501 --> 00:38:36,255
hit 1. And all of a sudden,

1103
00:38:37,053 --> 00:38:39,685
I hear a loud bang from the front

1104
00:38:39,685 --> 00:38:39,925
door.

1105
00:38:41,041 --> 00:38:42,477
About that time, the bells went off.

1106
00:38:43,528 --> 00:38:44,800
If you can put 2 and 2 together

1107
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,786
pretty quick and realize some some something's going

1108
00:38:46,786 --> 00:38:47,025
on.

1109
00:38:48,376 --> 00:38:49,647
So we ran down the steps,

1110
00:38:50,855 --> 00:38:52,775
And there's people in the outside, they're yelling.

1111
00:38:53,015 --> 00:38:54,775
There's a fire. There's a fire over there.

1112
00:38:55,255 --> 00:38:57,735
And the distance from from the fire station.

1113
00:38:58,055 --> 00:38:59,974
Right. Not not at the fire station are

1114
00:38:59,974 --> 00:39:01,129
close. Right? So

1115
00:39:01,746 --> 00:39:02,624
they're saying there's a fire.

1116
00:39:03,342 --> 00:39:05,279
The dispatcher is actually talking

1117
00:39:05,737 --> 00:39:06,056
now.

1118
00:39:06,854 --> 00:39:08,211
We're running across the base.

1119
00:39:09,183 --> 00:39:12,046
There's people actually that had stopped along the

1120
00:39:12,046 --> 00:39:14,351
apron of the doors, and they were all

1121
00:39:14,351 --> 00:39:16,499
banging on doors. So we knew had a

1122
00:39:16,499 --> 00:39:16,737
fire.

1123
00:39:17,373 --> 00:39:19,138
We didn't know it wasn't it right I

1124
00:39:19,138 --> 00:39:19,456
told you.

1125
00:39:20,965 --> 00:39:22,316
So we pop the door. We opened the

1126
00:39:22,316 --> 00:39:23,985
door to the the fire station, and we

1127
00:39:23,985 --> 00:39:26,264
could smell it. Right? Every firefighter I know

1128
00:39:26,304 --> 00:39:28,219
what the smells like. You know, you're going

1129
00:39:28,219 --> 00:39:29,496
do a job. But then we...

1130
00:39:30,773 --> 00:39:32,768
There was in a apartment building, 2 blocks

1131
00:39:32,768 --> 00:39:33,567
away from the firehouse house.

1132
00:39:36,209 --> 00:39:37,959
So we're driving down, and we can't see

1133
00:39:37,959 --> 00:39:40,346
it from the firehouse, but when you pass

1134
00:39:40,346 --> 00:39:42,506
a certain block. Can look over and just

1135
00:39:42,506 --> 00:39:44,752
get a great shot of it and we

1136
00:39:45,125 --> 00:39:45,363
we

1137
00:39:46,078 --> 00:39:47,983
pull past the block and there's just black

1138
00:39:47,983 --> 00:39:48,141
smoke.

1139
00:39:49,189 --> 00:39:50,465
Went out of the fourth floor of this

1140
00:39:50,465 --> 00:39:51,023
apartment building.

1141
00:39:53,017 --> 00:39:55,171
So so the real deal. So we pulled

1142
00:39:55,171 --> 00:39:55,330
up,

1143
00:39:56,686 --> 00:39:58,974
the guy that was in charge, great guy

1144
00:39:59,173 --> 00:40:01,635
officer. Ta He's a chief today, but he

1145
00:40:01,635 --> 00:40:03,700
said, hey, this is what we're gonna take

1146
00:40:03,700 --> 00:40:06,162
up the hose, you know, because we knew

1147
00:40:06,162 --> 00:40:07,830
where we're gonna go up a stair. We're

1148
00:40:07,830 --> 00:40:09,118
not going up to the yellow we knew

1149
00:40:09,118 --> 00:40:09,994
we wanted to stair well.

1150
00:40:10,871 --> 00:40:12,147
So we need a lot of extra hopes.

1151
00:40:12,386 --> 00:40:12,546
Right?

1152
00:40:13,263 --> 00:40:14,698
Well, when I got off, there's was a

1153
00:40:14,698 --> 00:40:16,452
a policeman that came right to me because,

1154
00:40:16,532 --> 00:40:18,693
there's a woman trapped on the fire for.

1155
00:40:19,250 --> 00:40:20,759
We couldn't get up there. It's too bad,

1156
00:40:21,235 --> 00:40:22,030
but she's out there.

1157
00:40:22,824 --> 00:40:23,324
And

1158
00:40:24,334 --> 00:40:25,858
so we make our way down the on

1159
00:40:25,858 --> 00:40:26,811
there... In the whole time,

1160
00:40:27,526 --> 00:40:30,307
there's people passing us, old people. This places...

1161
00:40:30,545 --> 00:40:32,531
What's 01:00 in the morning on a weekend,

1162
00:40:32,943 --> 00:40:35,169
see And there's... It's full of people.

1163
00:40:35,804 --> 00:40:37,473
So these people are passing us we're saying.

1164
00:40:37,632 --> 00:40:39,460
Just keep going, keep going. You know, and

1165
00:40:39,460 --> 00:40:41,208
we make our way around the stair well.

1166
00:40:42,337 --> 00:40:43,849
And we get up to the to the

1167
00:40:43,849 --> 00:40:44,327
third floor.

1168
00:40:45,044 --> 00:40:46,715
So we get up to the steps to

1169
00:40:46,715 --> 00:40:48,547
the fourth floor, and we can see there's

1170
00:40:48,547 --> 00:40:51,350
smoke about. It's black jeff black, hot, accurate

1171
00:40:51,350 --> 00:40:53,183
smoke. It's off... It's a foot off of

1172
00:40:53,183 --> 00:40:53,821
of the floor.

1173
00:40:55,734 --> 00:40:57,329
And as we're going up the stair it's

1174
00:40:57,329 --> 00:40:59,176
interesting too because there are people just the

1175
00:40:59,176 --> 00:41:02,995
whole time. And That's back passing. Yeah. Old

1176
00:41:02,995 --> 00:41:03,552
folks, You know,

1177
00:41:04,348 --> 00:41:05,166
they're obviously

1178
00:41:05,701 --> 00:41:06,837
pretty scared and

1179
00:41:07,943 --> 00:41:09,079
So we get up there

1180
00:41:09,533 --> 00:41:11,441
and we we get on the fourth floor.

1181
00:41:12,792 --> 00:41:13,292
And

1182
00:41:13,826 --> 00:41:15,200
you can barely see

1183
00:41:15,654 --> 00:41:16,767
your hand and front your face.

1184
00:41:17,659 --> 00:41:18,159
And

1185
00:41:19,257 --> 00:41:19,577
we...

1186
00:41:21,015 --> 00:41:23,173
The the plan was that me and the...

1187
00:41:23,333 --> 00:41:25,570
The the guy that was in charge. We

1188
00:41:25,570 --> 00:41:27,734
were gonna go find 80. We had an

1189
00:41:27,734 --> 00:41:29,242
idea of where she was, but we didn't

1190
00:41:29,242 --> 00:41:30,354
know exactly where she was.

1191
00:41:31,783 --> 00:41:32,497
And then the other...

1192
00:41:33,529 --> 00:41:35,197
Well, there were 2 guys up there because

1193
00:41:35,197 --> 00:41:37,050
the the fifth guy was down. He was

1194
00:41:37,050 --> 00:41:39,369
pumping... He was on the truck directing water

1195
00:41:39,369 --> 00:41:40,409
to the hose lines. Right?

1196
00:41:41,929 --> 00:41:43,610
So the other 2 guys were gonna go

1197
00:41:43,610 --> 00:41:44,170
put the fire.

1198
00:41:44,662 --> 00:41:46,250
You know, they put the fire on finally

1199
00:41:46,250 --> 00:41:46,409
lady.

1200
00:41:47,282 --> 00:41:49,188
We meet up get her downstairs, get more

1201
00:41:49,188 --> 00:41:50,402
help. We're the only

1202
00:41:50,776 --> 00:41:53,317
4 guys there. You know I because you've

1203
00:41:53,317 --> 00:41:55,317
lived Yeah. We were the 2 and a

1204
00:41:55,317 --> 00:41:56,667
half 3 blocks of land. Right?

1205
00:41:58,970 --> 00:42:00,161
So we get up there and and the

1206
00:42:00,161 --> 00:42:02,402
whole plan just changed recently instantly. Like back

1207
00:42:02,402 --> 00:42:03,998
to what I say, we, you know, if

1208
00:42:03,998 --> 00:42:05,673
you get into a situation, we're pretty good

1209
00:42:05,673 --> 00:42:07,746
at instantly going no plans change. This is

1210
00:42:07,746 --> 00:42:08,464
what we're gonna do.

1211
00:42:09,501 --> 00:42:11,416
He goes, we got all now 4 of

1212
00:42:11,416 --> 00:42:11,710
us

1213
00:42:12,547 --> 00:42:14,222
put this fire out. It's getting bad. That

1214
00:42:14,222 --> 00:42:16,237
the the conditions are deteriorating

1215
00:42:16,694 --> 00:42:17,194
rapidly.

1216
00:42:18,369 --> 00:42:19,565
So what had happened was,

1217
00:42:20,921 --> 00:42:22,770
we took astro extra hose up there. So

1218
00:42:22,770 --> 00:42:24,285
what did we had done? We took the

1219
00:42:24,285 --> 00:42:26,358
the the first set of hose up, which

1220
00:42:26,358 --> 00:42:27,952
has a nozzle on the end. Right? That

1221
00:42:27,952 --> 00:42:29,786
pipe I was telling you And we we

1222
00:42:29,786 --> 00:42:32,134
we connect another section of hose

1223
00:42:33,068 --> 00:42:34,902
off that nozzle, you could... You can just

1224
00:42:34,902 --> 00:42:36,496
screw it in, and then you take and

1225
00:42:36,496 --> 00:42:38,010
you extend your hose line. Right?

1226
00:42:39,296 --> 00:42:40,883
So we get up we get up there,

1227
00:42:40,963 --> 00:42:42,867
and but you gotta open that nozzle,

1228
00:42:43,818 --> 00:42:45,564
like, it's like a relay. We gotta open

1229
00:42:45,564 --> 00:42:47,570
that nozzle for the water to go into

1230
00:42:47,570 --> 00:42:49,170
your next hose line. Right?

1231
00:42:50,130 --> 00:42:52,690
Well, the conditions we're getting so bad so

1232
00:42:52,690 --> 00:42:52,929
fast.

1233
00:42:53,489 --> 00:42:55,659
That nozzle wasn't the floor below, like, it

1234
00:42:55,659 --> 00:42:57,010
should have been. It was on the fire

1235
00:42:57,010 --> 00:42:58,067
floor, and

1236
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:00,851
we couldn't find it. So

1237
00:43:02,115 --> 00:43:03,860
I was you know, and and was getting

1238
00:43:03,860 --> 00:43:05,685
hot, and then that's when he looked up

1239
00:43:05,685 --> 00:43:06,795
and he saw a thousand degrees.

1240
00:43:07,827 --> 00:43:08,223
And,

1241
00:43:09,352 --> 00:43:10,548
It's getting really, really hot.

1242
00:43:11,983 --> 00:43:12,483
And

1243
00:43:13,179 --> 00:43:14,534
I was sort the guy name's Brett.

1244
00:43:15,490 --> 00:43:16,788
Good guy. He

1245
00:43:17,577 --> 00:43:18,929
He and I were looking for it. I

1246
00:43:18,929 --> 00:43:21,313
couldn't find it. That the not. I couldn't

1247
00:43:21,393 --> 00:43:23,222
I couldn't find... Yeah. Yeah. Because the other

1248
00:43:23,222 --> 00:43:24,414
guys on the very, very end of the

1249
00:43:24,414 --> 00:43:25,845
house and he's like, we're... You guys gotta

1250
00:43:25,845 --> 00:43:27,533
find this now is get them the water

1251
00:43:27,533 --> 00:43:29,448
in this line. And I'm like, we're trying

1252
00:43:29,448 --> 00:43:31,603
young... Are you on Walkie talkie? You said...

1253
00:43:31,843 --> 00:43:33,519
Well, we could we could muffled. I mean,

1254
00:43:33,679 --> 00:43:34,717
we could like, we had a mask on,

1255
00:43:34,876 --> 00:43:36,483
but we could, like, We were within, like,

1256
00:43:36,562 --> 00:43:38,786
a 10 foot radius of each other. Sure.

1257
00:43:40,850 --> 00:43:41,565
I couldn't find it.

1258
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:43,630
I couldn't find it. Nia.

1259
00:43:45,791 --> 00:43:46,610
It's just got

1260
00:43:48,740 --> 00:43:49,378
pardon like,

1261
00:43:50,255 --> 00:43:53,377
fuck. Like I... I'm not gonna stop I'm

1262
00:43:53,377 --> 00:43:55,362
not gonna quit fighting this thing,

1263
00:43:56,474 --> 00:43:56,974
but

1264
00:43:57,744 --> 00:43:59,888
I'm not making any progress, you know, and

1265
00:43:59,888 --> 00:44:00,864
brett somehow

1266
00:44:01,573 --> 00:44:03,248
I don't how he did this day, but

1267
00:44:03,248 --> 00:44:05,082
he found it. And all of a sudden

1268
00:44:05,082 --> 00:44:06,996
you're here just the air rushing through because

1269
00:44:06,996 --> 00:44:08,431
there's always air that kinda rushed through the

1270
00:44:08,431 --> 00:44:10,106
line first. He found it opened it up.

1271
00:44:10,919 --> 00:44:12,835
And then the door got I kicked in,

1272
00:44:13,234 --> 00:44:15,230
and we all kinda charge in his apartment,

1273
00:44:16,427 --> 00:44:16,666
and

1274
00:44:18,103 --> 00:44:19,914
put the fire out, you know, and

1275
00:44:21,153 --> 00:44:23,551
then we... By that time, the air tanks,

1276
00:44:23,711 --> 00:44:25,649
you know, it's supposed to last generally

1277
00:44:26,748 --> 00:44:28,686
on average 30 minutes, but you're.

1278
00:44:29,225 --> 00:44:31,476
Yeah. But but your... But that's a long

1279
00:44:31,476 --> 00:44:33,072
time in a fire. 30 minutes in a

1280
00:44:33,072 --> 00:44:33,392
long time.

1281
00:44:34,429 --> 00:44:36,505
General, you're looking, you know, depending on your

1282
00:44:36,505 --> 00:44:38,421
breathing rate, how amped up you, you know,

1283
00:44:38,580 --> 00:44:39,473
what's for on, you know,

1284
00:44:40,748 --> 00:44:41,227
15 minutes.

1285
00:44:42,184 --> 00:44:42,423
Know,

1286
00:44:43,699 --> 00:44:44,199
so

1287
00:44:46,011 --> 00:44:47,308
we put fire up

1288
00:44:47,765 --> 00:44:49,052
or got it under control,

1289
00:44:51,596 --> 00:44:54,139
then our bottle start the t the bells

1290
00:44:54,139 --> 00:44:55,491
and stuff on the bottle start going off,

1291
00:44:55,729 --> 00:44:57,894
meaning we gotta go get new models. Right?

1292
00:44:59,494 --> 00:45:01,575
So we went downstairs stairs,

1293
00:45:02,055 --> 00:45:02,454
and

1294
00:45:03,175 --> 00:45:05,748
there was more guys now coming upstairs to

1295
00:45:05,748 --> 00:45:07,650
look for the lady, and then we got

1296
00:45:07,650 --> 00:45:08,918
downstairs as a picture of us this I

1297
00:45:08,918 --> 00:45:11,296
have is all on the ground. People are

1298
00:45:11,296 --> 00:45:12,643
putting new bottles and were talking.

1299
00:45:13,372 --> 00:45:15,441
About the game plan. Well, guy gets on

1300
00:45:15,441 --> 00:45:16,873
the radio, I found this woman.

1301
00:45:18,385 --> 00:45:20,135
She's on the, you know, fourth floor, and

1302
00:45:20,135 --> 00:45:21,647
she was if we you would've have met

1303
00:45:21,647 --> 00:45:23,260
went up the stairs to the fourth floor.

1304
00:45:23,500 --> 00:45:25,099
We went left to put the fire up

1305
00:45:25,099 --> 00:45:27,180
the apartments to the left. She was just

1306
00:45:27,180 --> 00:45:29,260
the right in the first apartment. She was

1307
00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:31,155
right off the stairs, but her door was

1308
00:45:31,274 --> 00:45:33,813
closed. Thank God. Right? And thank God the

1309
00:45:33,813 --> 00:45:37,225
guy that... I think god. Because when... So

1310
00:45:37,225 --> 00:45:39,050
doors the best things to stuff to stop,

1311
00:45:39,210 --> 00:45:41,686
you know, to to inhibit fire travel.

1312
00:45:42,322 --> 00:45:44,784
Really? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Doors are great.

1313
00:45:44,943 --> 00:45:46,952
If that's why people say shut the door

1314
00:45:47,406 --> 00:45:49,335
if you're trying to leave a fire because

1315
00:45:49,883 --> 00:45:50,757
doors are great.

1316
00:45:51,711 --> 00:45:52,585
Great. Stop.

1317
00:45:53,063 --> 00:45:55,606
They won't stop it forever. Eventually, everything burns

1318
00:45:55,606 --> 00:45:57,036
up upright. And you don't put water on

1319
00:45:57,036 --> 00:45:58,961
it. But they were hold a fire off

1320
00:45:58,961 --> 00:46:00,155
for a long time.

1321
00:46:00,951 --> 00:46:02,168
You know, so

1322
00:46:03,180 --> 00:46:04,851
this dude was pissed his girlfriend,

1323
00:46:05,806 --> 00:46:06,523
ex girlfriend.

1324
00:46:07,653 --> 00:46:09,646
Pushed stuff on her stove, set that apartment

1325
00:46:09,646 --> 00:46:11,958
in fire, but shut the doors he left,

1326
00:46:12,117 --> 00:46:13,951
which saved a lot of people learning people

1327
00:46:13,951 --> 00:46:14,589
dead in that place.

1328
00:46:16,039 --> 00:46:17,710
We shut the door. Hence when we kick

1329
00:46:17,710 --> 00:46:18,983
the door in. So he was just trying

1330
00:46:18,983 --> 00:46:21,927
to burn his best girlfriend's apartment Yeah. On

1331
00:46:21,927 --> 00:46:22,564
a dick. Yeah.

1332
00:46:23,439 --> 00:46:25,684
So we... Basically he goes, hey, found a

1333
00:46:25,684 --> 00:46:26,583
woman. So

1334
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:28,179
I run up

1335
00:46:28,717 --> 00:46:29,994
and this woman was a head shoes was

1336
00:46:29,994 --> 00:46:31,351
a heavier set woman. Yeah.

1337
00:46:32,948 --> 00:46:34,360
They're were obviously having trouble

1338
00:46:34,717 --> 00:46:36,544
I met them right at the stair that

1339
00:46:36,544 --> 00:46:39,166
on the stairs coming down from the 44I

1340
00:46:39,166 --> 00:46:41,469
grabbed a leg. There was another down leg.

1341
00:46:42,025 --> 00:46:43,474
No. 2 guys on an arm.

1342
00:46:44,273 --> 00:46:46,430
She was unconscious. Yeah. She went breathing and

1343
00:46:46,430 --> 00:46:48,027
very well all. She was dying. I mean,

1344
00:46:48,187 --> 00:46:49,625
this this woman was in bad shape.

1345
00:46:50,838 --> 00:46:53,949
Barely alive. So we dragged her down. I

1346
00:46:53,949 --> 00:46:56,262
mean, it wasn't pretty but we drive her

1347
00:46:56,262 --> 00:46:58,588
down. We rug all the way down the

1348
00:46:58,588 --> 00:46:59,088
hallway

1349
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:01,156
out the front door

1350
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:05,748
the ambulance... Whoever was on the ambulance came

1351
00:47:05,748 --> 00:47:06,248
and

1352
00:47:06,639 --> 00:47:08,233
picked her up, took her to the hospital

1353
00:47:08,233 --> 00:47:08,733
and,

1354
00:47:09,828 --> 00:47:12,220
yeah. She made it. She... Wow. This is

1355
00:47:12,220 --> 00:47:13,815
the firehouse all the time. She comes in.

1356
00:47:14,134 --> 00:47:15,983
Judy. Name's Judy. Hi, Drew.

1357
00:47:17,979 --> 00:47:18,479
Big.

1358
00:47:18,857 --> 00:47:19,894
Did you think you weren't gonna get out

1359
00:47:19,894 --> 00:47:22,210
of that 1? Did. I think we talked

1360
00:47:22,210 --> 00:47:23,348
about it after and

1361
00:47:24,539 --> 00:47:25,970
guy was that he's a chief today he

1362
00:47:25,970 --> 00:47:27,345
was in charge of night he goes

1363
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,072
that even the other guy, he had a

1364
00:47:29,072 --> 00:47:31,633
lot of experience too. Lot. He's a they're

1365
00:47:31,633 --> 00:47:34,019
both great fire and. You know, they said,

1366
00:47:35,530 --> 00:47:36,088
thought were done.

1367
00:47:36,804 --> 00:47:37,201
I'm like,

1368
00:47:38,806 --> 00:47:40,631
that were done too, but I wasn't leaving.

1369
00:47:40,869 --> 00:47:42,456
You know, I wasn't leaving you. I wasn't

1370
00:47:42,456 --> 00:47:44,122
leaving the fire. I wasn't leaving it. I

1371
00:47:44,122 --> 00:47:45,708
we were just gonna keep it. I was

1372
00:47:45,708 --> 00:47:47,155
already yeah. That was just that's is what

1373
00:47:47,155 --> 00:47:47,954
we do. We,

1374
00:47:48,514 --> 00:47:50,114
we're it together. You know, It's a brotherhood

1375
00:47:50,114 --> 00:47:51,474
and burn it together. Yeah.

1376
00:47:52,994 --> 00:47:53,494
So

1377
00:47:54,685 --> 00:47:56,827
That was probably... That was pretty bad. Oh,

1378
00:47:57,541 --> 00:47:59,525
glad she made it. Good judy. Thank you.

1379
00:47:59,763 --> 00:48:01,905
Yeah. And I hope that guy is now

1380
00:48:01,905 --> 00:48:02,381
in prison.

1381
00:48:03,514 --> 00:48:05,114
I don't remember. I'm sure he is.

1382
00:48:05,675 --> 00:48:06,655
I mean, if you

1383
00:48:07,034 --> 00:48:08,635
no. I mean, if they knew he was

1384
00:48:08,635 --> 00:48:09,835
everything. I don't know if he's still in

1385
00:48:09,835 --> 00:48:11,434
prison, but I'm pretty sure he went there

1386
00:48:11,434 --> 00:48:13,840
for Yeah. That's the shift. Today when dying

1387
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,000
that.

1388
00:48:14,717 --> 00:48:17,505
Not 1 person. Oh, got bless. Awesome.

1389
00:48:18,142 --> 00:48:18,642
So

1390
00:48:18,954 --> 00:48:19,831
Awesome. Thank you.

1391
00:48:22,463 --> 00:48:24,537
I mean it's funny. They would say when

1392
00:48:24,537 --> 00:48:26,850
you see a service man or woman in

1393
00:48:26,850 --> 00:48:28,940
the military, and she go up in make

1394
00:48:28,940 --> 00:48:30,480
them. It it seems to me

1395
00:48:31,420 --> 00:48:33,820
police environment deserve our things just as much.

1396
00:48:34,460 --> 00:48:36,699
Definitely. Sound. Yeah. Definitely I think.

1397
00:48:38,473 --> 00:48:40,146
It's sort of like the un the un

1398
00:48:40,146 --> 00:48:42,935
sum heroes really. Mh. I mean, every single

1399
00:48:42,935 --> 00:48:44,289
day you're going out there,

1400
00:48:45,326 --> 00:48:46,452
and you're doing this stuff.

1401
00:48:47,245 --> 00:48:49,940
And regular folk like me. Don't really think

1402
00:48:49,940 --> 00:48:52,184
about it. You don't think about the fire

1403
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:53,136
fire persons

1404
00:48:53,683 --> 00:48:55,038
Unless you see him at the grocery store

1405
00:48:55,038 --> 00:48:57,268
and home buy up dinner and like, hey,

1406
00:48:57,428 --> 00:49:00,000
what's up, but it... I don't know. It's

1407
00:49:00,137 --> 00:49:01,731
it's that weird sort of thing about.

1408
00:49:03,980 --> 00:49:05,900
That service, that branch of service.

1409
00:49:06,300 --> 00:49:07,599
Mh. Is it considered

1410
00:49:08,780 --> 00:49:09,920
like? Well, it's paramilitary

1411
00:49:10,300 --> 00:49:12,815
Paramilitary? Yeah. There's a lot of that values.

1412
00:49:13,594 --> 00:49:15,994
It's not the military military. Okay. But we

1413
00:49:15,994 --> 00:49:17,275
follow a lot of the

1414
00:49:18,394 --> 00:49:18,714
military,

1415
00:49:19,275 --> 00:49:22,726
like, code ethics entire, you know, there's rank

1416
00:49:22,726 --> 00:49:25,064
and structure, chain command and

1417
00:49:25,603 --> 00:49:27,221
and all that stuff, you know, and

1418
00:49:28,091 --> 00:49:29,519
Yeah. You know, you don't know, would you

1419
00:49:29,519 --> 00:49:31,051
see a fire or policeman

1420
00:49:32,852 --> 00:49:36,525
paramedic or Emt? It then too. They definitely

1421
00:49:36,525 --> 00:49:38,359
may out. Yeah. Not ambulance drivers.

1422
00:49:40,114 --> 00:49:41,970
I have some very dear friends who are,

1423
00:49:42,507 --> 00:49:44,954
flight nurses. Mh. And and regular

1424
00:49:45,314 --> 00:49:46,214
hospital nurses.

1425
00:49:46,992 --> 00:49:48,032
I mean, they...

1426
00:49:48,751 --> 00:49:50,909
Man, that's a heck of a job. Sure.

1427
00:49:51,548 --> 00:49:53,386
I don't know when you people sleep for

1428
00:49:53,386 --> 00:49:54,025
god's sakes.

1429
00:49:54,999 --> 00:49:58,265
Think there's no sleep whenever... Try to. Amazing

1430
00:49:58,265 --> 00:49:59,779
that you can do what you do. The

1431
00:49:59,779 --> 00:50:02,647
adrenaline levels must just be through the roof.

1432
00:50:04,001 --> 00:50:06,255
Yeah. Get pretty amped up sometimes. But for

1433
00:50:06,255 --> 00:50:09,454
me, like, it's... Do yoga or meditation? Yoga

1434
00:50:09,454 --> 00:50:11,775
is actually awesome. Yeah. I I love Cor

1435
00:50:11,775 --> 00:50:14,348
yoga, like, just from a stretching standpoint. Like,

1436
00:50:14,588 --> 00:50:16,659
you, you know, just to keep your your

1437
00:50:16,659 --> 00:50:17,796
muscles and everything

1438
00:50:18,252 --> 00:50:20,244
stretched out. I love it. Really give guys.

1439
00:50:20,483 --> 00:50:21,917
What about your mind though? I mean, I

1440
00:50:21,917 --> 00:50:23,532
know I keep bringing this up, but

1441
00:50:24,003 --> 00:50:25,836
do you go through this stuff day after

1442
00:50:25,836 --> 00:50:26,894
day after day

1443
00:50:27,509 --> 00:50:28,487
and experiences

1444
00:50:29,023 --> 00:50:30,559
and not have your mind just

1445
00:50:31,189 --> 00:50:31,668
sort of say,

1446
00:50:32,546 --> 00:50:34,620
excuse me, but this is sort of fucked

1447
00:50:34,620 --> 00:50:37,014
up man There you go. Yeah. How do

1448
00:50:37,014 --> 00:50:38,744
you find your happy place? How do you

1449
00:50:38,864 --> 00:50:41,166
at zen with it all. And I mean,

1450
00:50:41,246 --> 00:50:43,787
it's just so matter of fact for you

1451
00:50:43,787 --> 00:50:45,081
at this point? Or

1452
00:50:45,931 --> 00:50:47,122
I mean do you ever break down and

1453
00:50:47,122 --> 00:50:47,519
cry?

1454
00:50:48,329 --> 00:50:50,170
Know you're, you know, manly man. You've got

1455
00:50:50,170 --> 00:50:52,730
a beard and everything, but you're a human

1456
00:50:52,730 --> 00:50:55,529
being. I mean, I imagine some the kids.

1457
00:50:56,170 --> 00:50:57,780
I mean, you see everything.

1458
00:50:58,971 --> 00:51:00,717
You probably see people at their words stand

1459
00:51:00,717 --> 00:51:02,248
their best as do

1460
00:51:03,256 --> 00:51:04,630
police officers, but

1461
00:51:05,340 --> 00:51:06,780
I mean... Right. Yeah.

1462
00:51:07,340 --> 00:51:08,699
How can... I mean, how could you not?

1463
00:51:08,940 --> 00:51:09,260
I have...

1464
00:51:11,260 --> 00:51:12,550
I went to a ones where.

1465
00:51:16,365 --> 00:51:16,763
Mean,

1466
00:51:18,114 --> 00:51:19,783
same well guys I was I fired with

1467
00:51:19,783 --> 00:51:22,341
actually. He's a captain at this point. And

1468
00:51:24,248 --> 00:51:25,997
2 guys on the ambulance before us.

1469
00:51:27,745 --> 00:51:28,937
What had happened was,

1470
00:51:30,779 --> 00:51:31,676
grandfather and grandmother

1471
00:51:32,605 --> 00:51:34,137
drove from Wisconsin

1472
00:51:36,017 --> 00:51:37,659
to Indianapolis, which is the high

1473
00:51:38,579 --> 00:51:39,780
picked up 3 their grandkids,

1474
00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:43,400
and they age they range from

1475
00:51:44,339 --> 00:51:44,739
cheese,

1476
00:51:45,780 --> 00:51:46,179
maybe,

1477
00:51:47,791 --> 00:51:48,291
9

1478
00:51:48,824 --> 00:51:50,015
to 14,

1479
00:51:51,208 --> 00:51:51,708
and

1480
00:51:53,035 --> 00:51:54,091
they were going to

1481
00:51:54,878 --> 00:51:56,942
the place where I'm from, you know, and

1482
00:51:56,942 --> 00:51:58,688
there's a amusement park there. So you go

1483
00:51:58,688 --> 00:51:59,164
from

1484
00:52:00,355 --> 00:52:01,705
the the to Wisconsin.

1485
00:52:02,594 --> 00:52:04,432
Down to Indy, an hour and a half

1486
00:52:04,432 --> 00:52:06,908
north of Indy, you know, and and that's

1487
00:52:06,908 --> 00:52:09,225
a hike for anybody. So now throw we

1488
00:52:09,225 --> 00:52:11,155
own elderly person on top of that. That's

1489
00:52:11,155 --> 00:52:13,230
in the summer, all day driving. You know.

1490
00:52:13,868 --> 00:52:16,182
So he was tired. And he was 2

1491
00:52:16,182 --> 00:52:17,321
miles from town

1492
00:52:17,632 --> 00:52:18,108
2 miles.

1493
00:52:19,535 --> 00:52:20,725
And I came around a corner,

1494
00:52:21,438 --> 00:52:23,262
and he fell asleep, and he had a

1495
00:52:23,262 --> 00:52:24,714
truck had on. Jeez

1496
00:52:25,419 --> 00:52:25,737
and

1497
00:52:28,518 --> 00:52:29,971
we just started watching

1498
00:52:31,060 --> 00:52:31,695
a movie,

1499
00:52:32,331 --> 00:52:33,762
like, it was a beautiful summer.

1500
00:52:34,812 --> 00:52:37,205
And, you know, the the bell goes off

1501
00:52:37,205 --> 00:52:38,561
for for a rack.

1502
00:52:40,235 --> 00:52:42,150
Generally, like, if you get a really bad

1503
00:52:42,150 --> 00:52:42,469
rack,

1504
00:52:43,839 --> 00:52:45,993
like, the dispatcher when you're en route to

1505
00:52:45,993 --> 00:52:47,508
the wreck. They they'll come back and go,

1506
00:52:48,067 --> 00:52:50,460
there might be people dead here, you know,

1507
00:52:50,778 --> 00:52:52,374
they have verbiage for it, but, basically, that's

1508
00:52:52,374 --> 00:52:52,852
what they're saying.

1509
00:52:54,223 --> 00:52:55,577
Bad, blah blah, blah, blah.

1510
00:52:56,613 --> 00:52:58,525
Like, there wasn't a word. Like, there wasn't

1511
00:52:58,525 --> 00:52:59,720
a word, and it was a little bit

1512
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:00,437
of a drive.

1513
00:53:01,951 --> 00:53:02,747
And we pulled up.

1514
00:53:04,353 --> 00:53:04,853
And

1515
00:53:06,896 --> 00:53:09,041
the car hit the trucks so hard. The

1516
00:53:09,041 --> 00:53:10,551
back tires the car off the ground.

1517
00:53:12,231 --> 00:53:13,816
And we pull up I pulled up right

1518
00:53:13,816 --> 00:53:16,430
next to car, the guy the truck fine

1519
00:53:16,430 --> 00:53:16,905
walking around.

1520
00:53:18,984 --> 00:53:20,097
And I could see when I was in

1521
00:53:20,097 --> 00:53:21,369
the truck, I pulled up I could see

1522
00:53:21,369 --> 00:53:23,676
the I could see someone on the back

1523
00:53:23,676 --> 00:53:26,380
and see the woman in the passenger's seat,

1524
00:53:26,777 --> 00:53:27,334
she looked dead.

1525
00:53:29,263 --> 00:53:29,583
And,

1526
00:53:30,142 --> 00:53:32,619
I remember saying to Steve, the captain and

1527
00:53:32,699 --> 00:53:33,019
I said,

1528
00:53:34,297 --> 00:53:36,056
this is a bad 1. And he goes.

1529
00:53:36,775 --> 00:53:38,329
Yeah. It really is. And

1530
00:53:39,110 --> 00:53:40,710
so he jumped out. I jumped out,

1531
00:53:41,269 --> 00:53:43,829
and I went around... I felt for a

1532
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:45,030
pulse from a kid in the back.

1533
00:53:45,842 --> 00:53:46,796
Not something he was dead.

1534
00:53:47,988 --> 00:53:49,657
Once the woman, the grandma,

1535
00:53:50,610 --> 00:53:52,041
I can I can only get to her

1536
00:53:52,041 --> 00:53:55,076
neck up because she was pinned, the dashboard

1537
00:53:55,076 --> 00:53:56,768
and everything came in on top of her

1538
00:53:57,222 --> 00:53:57,461
dad?

1539
00:53:59,051 --> 00:54:00,482
So rather running inside the car.

1540
00:54:01,934 --> 00:54:03,695
I could see corridor the the back corridor

1541
00:54:03,695 --> 00:54:06,734
was open, the rear driver's side. And by

1542
00:54:06,734 --> 00:54:08,014
that time, 1 of these new he was

1543
00:54:08,014 --> 00:54:09,215
a newer paramedic great guy.

1544
00:54:11,139 --> 00:54:12,331
He comes to run up me, and he

1545
00:54:12,331 --> 00:54:12,490
goes.

1546
00:54:13,524 --> 00:54:14,160
The driver...

1547
00:54:15,114 --> 00:54:17,284
He's he's he's barely live

1548
00:54:17,911 --> 00:54:19,340
gotta get him out. And cut him out.

1549
00:54:20,609 --> 00:54:21,165
He's gonna die.

1550
00:54:22,117 --> 00:54:23,625
And I walked... I said, hold on. I

1551
00:54:23,625 --> 00:54:24,869
walked from the car and

1552
00:54:26,107 --> 00:54:28,602
the guy was actively dying and

1553
00:54:29,219 --> 00:54:30,974
the steering wheel, if you could imagine, Don't

1554
00:54:30,974 --> 00:54:32,331
know if you can imagine this people listening,

1555
00:54:32,491 --> 00:54:34,585
but we he had this, you know, obviously

1556
00:54:34,585 --> 00:54:35,224
driving with his hands.

1557
00:54:35,944 --> 00:54:37,625
And he hit the steering was so hard

1558
00:54:37,625 --> 00:54:38,125
was

1559
00:54:38,505 --> 00:54:39,005
chest

1560
00:54:39,625 --> 00:54:42,116
that the the the part you hold Your

1561
00:54:42,116 --> 00:54:45,612
hand was bent. Both sides bent completely back

1562
00:54:45,612 --> 00:54:45,851
around.

1563
00:54:46,804 --> 00:54:48,473
And he his chest was kind of sitting

1564
00:54:48,473 --> 00:54:49,005
up against

1565
00:54:49,683 --> 00:54:51,359
the part we hon the horn or the

1566
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:52,716
airbag would come out. Airbag did come out,

1567
00:54:52,796 --> 00:54:53,993
but obviously we didn't do anything. But...

1568
00:54:55,031 --> 00:54:58,239
So obviously, that's pretty significant hit. And he

1569
00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,960
was... Internally. Yeah. Bleeding internally in his chest.

1570
00:55:01,199 --> 00:55:01,440
Sure.

1571
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:04,079
And I said,

1572
00:55:05,611 --> 00:55:07,543
and he was pinned the car? I said

1573
00:55:07,679 --> 00:55:08,872
he's gonna die I make it.

1574
00:55:11,020 --> 00:55:12,389
Who do we have this a lot who

1575
00:55:12,389 --> 00:55:13,347
do we have it's viable.

1576
00:55:14,784 --> 00:55:16,540
And he said there's 2 kids back behind

1577
00:55:16,540 --> 00:55:17,099
the car,

1578
00:55:17,897 --> 00:55:20,393
and some bystanders standard have pulled them out

1579
00:55:21,090 --> 00:55:22,704
that, you know, Are you supposed to do

1580
00:55:22,704 --> 00:55:24,144
that? Not supposed to do that?

1581
00:55:24,864 --> 00:55:27,045
I've heard... You know, you know, it's

1582
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:31,289
there's a lot of variables to it. Generally

1583
00:55:31,503 --> 00:55:31,901
speaking,

1584
00:55:33,172 --> 00:55:34,363
it's not the best idea,

1585
00:55:35,237 --> 00:55:36,826
but I don't want people to hear me

1586
00:55:36,826 --> 00:55:38,747
say, well, he said not to pull them

1587
00:55:38,747 --> 00:55:40,813
out. Right. But the car on fire. Right.

1588
00:55:41,210 --> 00:55:42,640
I mean, you know, We're very, you know,

1589
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,149
use some common sense, for.

1590
00:55:45,182 --> 00:55:46,770
Someone had done it. They they laid the

1591
00:55:46,770 --> 00:55:47,406
girl on the ground.

1592
00:55:48,452 --> 00:55:49,878
And I and I remember I walked around

1593
00:55:49,878 --> 00:55:51,066
the corridor where I couldn't see her, but

1594
00:55:51,146 --> 00:55:53,205
I... When I walked around the car slew

1595
00:55:53,205 --> 00:55:54,552
like tin year girl.

1596
00:55:55,123 --> 00:55:57,823
And her lips were blue is a sm,

1597
00:55:59,014 --> 00:55:59,514
and

1598
00:56:00,364 --> 00:56:01,635
she was pasty pale.

1599
00:56:03,400 --> 00:56:05,260
And, and I remember saying

1600
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:06,619
her

1601
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:07,400
dissect.

1602
00:56:08,039 --> 00:56:09,720
I mean, they have a general appearance like,

1603
00:56:11,090 --> 00:56:14,353
She's just blood curling, like screams for mom,

1604
00:56:14,990 --> 00:56:15,808
like she

1605
00:56:16,661 --> 00:56:17,161
mom

1606
00:56:19,382 --> 00:56:20,757
just there was

1607
00:56:21,291 --> 00:56:21,847
was intense.

1608
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:23,836
And I said,

1609
00:56:25,203 --> 00:56:27,105
gotta get her to a trauma center. And

1610
00:56:27,105 --> 00:56:29,086
she needs a trauma pediatric trauma surgeon.

1611
00:56:32,589 --> 00:56:34,425
Her brother was behind her, the other brother,

1612
00:56:34,984 --> 00:56:36,580
and he was messed up, but he wasn't

1613
00:56:36,580 --> 00:56:36,899
dying.

1614
00:56:39,373 --> 00:56:39,873
So

1615
00:56:41,224 --> 00:56:42,420
they get her in the ambulance once,

1616
00:56:43,297 --> 00:56:45,052
they get going to the hospital.

1617
00:56:46,009 --> 00:56:47,524
I stay back and cut the dead people

1618
00:56:47,524 --> 00:56:48,162
out of the car.

1619
00:56:49,199 --> 00:56:49,699
And

1620
00:56:50,808 --> 00:56:53,610
bang them mouth, and so then the doctor

1621
00:56:54,142 --> 00:56:56,309
told us that that little girl

1622
00:56:57,079 --> 00:56:59,514
screamed for her mother, the entire time room

1623
00:56:59,794 --> 00:57:01,949
That's all she said. Didn't say anything else.

1624
00:57:02,827 --> 00:57:04,982
Or baby. The surgeon said she was screaming

1625
00:57:04,982 --> 00:57:05,541
for mother.

1626
00:57:06,578 --> 00:57:07,536
She goes into surgery.

1627
00:57:09,220 --> 00:57:10,172
Get her out of surgery.

1628
00:57:11,045 --> 00:57:11,917
She's in recovery.

1629
00:57:13,742 --> 00:57:15,804
She wakes up enough to scream for her

1630
00:57:15,804 --> 00:57:17,724
mother again. Her mother walks in the room

1631
00:57:17,724 --> 00:57:18,994
says baby I'm here for you I'm here.

1632
00:57:19,153 --> 00:57:21,400
I'm here. Long me here and she dies

1633
00:57:21,773 --> 00:57:22,090
instantly.

1634
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:23,940
So

1635
00:57:25,107 --> 00:57:26,713
and did shit like that. I mean, how

1636
00:57:26,713 --> 00:57:27,032
do you...

1637
00:57:29,181 --> 00:57:30,853
But this is just... This is just my

1638
00:57:30,853 --> 00:57:33,344
story. You know, Like, there's firefighters paramedics

1639
00:57:33,894 --> 00:57:34,294
policeman,

1640
00:57:35,093 --> 00:57:37,491
there's people like this everywhere in the country

1641
00:57:37,491 --> 00:57:38,231
the world

1642
00:57:38,849 --> 00:57:40,847
that have stores like this. You know, like,

1643
00:57:41,007 --> 00:57:42,366
this is just shit in my eyes have

1644
00:57:42,366 --> 00:57:45,193
seen. That's not... That's such a heavy soul

1645
00:57:45,487 --> 00:57:47,713
moment. Yeah. You know, the little girl no...

1646
00:57:48,031 --> 00:57:50,018
Like, some part of her, like, this is

1647
00:57:50,018 --> 00:57:51,608
it for me. I wanna see my mom

1648
00:57:51,608 --> 00:57:52,323
in last time.

1649
00:57:53,134 --> 00:57:54,572
And then when she had that, she was

1650
00:57:54,572 --> 00:57:56,431
able to like oh. I mean, jeez.

1651
00:57:57,929 --> 00:58:00,486
It's the almost the only thing in an

1652
00:58:00,486 --> 00:58:00,986
unbearable

1653
00:58:01,445 --> 00:58:03,688
situation that can bring any sort of peace.

1654
00:58:04,006 --> 00:58:05,676
I a do you believe in a higher

1655
00:58:05,676 --> 00:58:06,176
park

1656
00:58:06,550 --> 00:58:09,015
or... Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I... You know,

1657
00:58:10,940 --> 00:58:12,692
Nothing you have to. Right. I mean, No.

1658
00:58:12,851 --> 00:58:14,443
I do. All all the people, you know,

1659
00:58:14,603 --> 00:58:15,341
that I've

1660
00:58:15,956 --> 00:58:16,911
taken to the hospital.

1661
00:58:19,635 --> 00:58:20,751
Like, especially the cancer,

1662
00:58:21,788 --> 00:58:22,984
patients just dealing with them.

1663
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:25,296
Don't look at you and they'll stay I'm

1664
00:58:25,296 --> 00:58:25,615
tired,

1665
00:58:26,173 --> 00:58:26,732
you know, like,

1666
00:58:27,623 --> 00:58:28,839
the civilian mako

1667
00:58:30,009 --> 00:58:31,440
for this a ton of times. Like,

1668
00:58:32,315 --> 00:58:33,189
oh, take a nap,

1669
00:58:34,859 --> 00:58:36,622
get some rest. That's something me.

1670
00:58:37,495 --> 00:58:39,561
They're tired of living. Yeah. Who done. Yeah.

1671
00:58:39,719 --> 00:58:41,626
They just went in. And I know exactly

1672
00:58:41,626 --> 00:58:43,452
what they mean. They want the morphine train.

1673
00:58:43,944 --> 00:58:45,002
There. So

1674
00:58:45,697 --> 00:58:47,530
yeah, I do. I do. And, you know,

1675
00:58:47,690 --> 00:58:48,588
there's a lot of,

1676
00:58:48,965 --> 00:58:50,718
I've met people that have, you know, I'm

1677
00:58:50,718 --> 00:58:51,650
seen things and

1678
00:58:52,406 --> 00:58:54,239
Yeah. Whether someone believes in it or not,

1679
00:58:56,230 --> 00:58:57,505
it gives me comfort to believe in not.

1680
00:58:57,983 --> 00:59:00,782
Sure. Right. So I know after all the

1681
00:59:00,782 --> 00:59:02,554
batch shit I've seen in

1682
00:59:03,168 --> 00:59:04,304
the service that

1683
00:59:05,076 --> 00:59:07,223
the way I've tried to help people that,

1684
00:59:07,382 --> 00:59:10,526
you know, hopefully the gates are pearl and

1685
00:59:12,420 --> 00:59:13,936
All good. No fire anywhere.

1686
00:59:14,735 --> 00:59:15,852
So for people listening,

1687
00:59:17,064 --> 00:59:19,297
And I know I'm curious. What it's probably

1688
00:59:19,297 --> 00:59:21,153
1 of the top causes of

1689
00:59:21,849 --> 00:59:22,807
residential issues.

1690
00:59:23,604 --> 00:59:25,518
Where somebody could do so to sort of

1691
00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:27,449
protect themselves a little bit better not being

1692
00:59:27,449 --> 00:59:27,768
idiot.

1693
00:59:28,328 --> 00:59:30,005
Like, what where you said, what's the top

1694
00:59:30,005 --> 00:59:31,684
cost for residential fires?

1695
00:59:32,802 --> 00:59:34,400
What depends where you're at? And what neighbor

1696
00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:36,886
you live in? Oh, really. Yeah. Detroit, they

1697
00:59:36,886 --> 00:59:37,386
have

1698
00:59:38,558 --> 00:59:39,775
like, I think, 5

1699
00:59:40,390 --> 00:59:43,338
classifications for Arsenal alone. Oh, it's so sad.

1700
00:59:43,577 --> 00:59:45,659
Really. So, yeah. It just depends. You know,

1701
00:59:45,818 --> 00:59:47,329
like, general, you could look at this point.

1702
00:59:47,488 --> 00:59:49,794
You Detroit and stop bringing down.

1703
00:59:50,669 --> 00:59:52,043
You can look at it as

1704
00:59:52,829 --> 00:59:53,226
arson,

1705
00:59:54,577 --> 00:59:55,077
electrical,

1706
00:59:57,753 --> 01:00:00,190
some sort of accidental kid playing with life

1707
01:00:00,709 --> 01:00:00,869
Sure.

1708
01:00:02,706 --> 01:00:04,224
So yeah, You can look at it and,

1709
01:00:04,384 --> 01:00:06,222
you know, those... Best chance of survival get

1710
01:00:06,222 --> 01:00:07,181
on floor shut the door?

1711
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:08,059
What?

1712
01:00:08,714 --> 01:00:10,312
Rat getting the bathtub and me if you

1713
01:00:10,312 --> 01:00:11,671
can put the water on on?

1714
01:00:12,949 --> 01:00:13,609
I think

1715
01:00:15,027 --> 01:00:16,920
the best thing for me that best advice

1716
01:00:17,119 --> 01:00:20,159
I could give would be to 1 pre

1717
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:20,400
plan.

1718
01:00:21,199 --> 01:00:24,099
Right. Oh, yeah. Sure. Have pre,

1719
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:24,639
like,

1720
01:00:25,199 --> 01:00:25,699
the

1721
01:00:26,970 --> 01:00:29,380
designed area outside where your family

1722
01:00:29,834 --> 01:00:31,902
can go if there's a fire no house,

1723
01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:33,811
we're all gonna try to meet at the

1724
01:00:33,811 --> 01:00:35,500
big tree in the front yard. I don't

1725
01:00:35,500 --> 01:00:36,860
think people do that very often to do

1726
01:00:36,860 --> 01:00:38,380
that. No. Have of plan.

1727
01:00:39,019 --> 01:00:40,380
No. And you need to talk about it.

1728
01:00:40,539 --> 01:00:41,900
You need to you need to have all

1729
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:43,748
this shit figured out before it actually happens.

1730
01:00:43,907 --> 01:00:45,179
Right? So you had need to have a

1731
01:00:45,179 --> 01:00:46,394
plan where you're gonna meet

1732
01:00:47,643 --> 01:00:47,961
and,

1733
01:00:49,472 --> 01:00:51,538
change your batteries in your smoke detector every

1734
01:00:51,538 --> 01:00:53,855
6 months. People with time change that's easy

1735
01:00:53,855 --> 01:00:55,203
because they just recommend doing it when the

1736
01:00:55,203 --> 01:00:57,186
time goes forward or backwards. Right? Sure.

1737
01:00:58,773 --> 01:01:01,169
And if you do, shut... If you are

1738
01:01:01,169 --> 01:01:02,441
in a in a house and you can't,

1739
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,429
you know, second floor or something, and you

1740
01:01:04,429 --> 01:01:06,416
can't get down of the first floor.

1741
01:01:08,899 --> 01:01:11,136
Shut the door to the room, separate yourself

1742
01:01:11,136 --> 01:01:11,775
from the hallway,

1743
01:01:12,334 --> 01:01:14,331
like, make sure you shut the door, put

1744
01:01:14,331 --> 01:01:15,450
towel in the door, the bottom.

1745
01:01:16,422 --> 01:01:18,729
State blanket or something? Anything. Just to just

1746
01:01:18,729 --> 01:01:20,320
to close the crack of that door, You

1747
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:22,070
know? Generally, a wet towel, a damp towel,

1748
01:01:22,150 --> 01:01:23,357
but you may not have a mask right

1749
01:01:23,357 --> 01:01:23,914
there. Sorry.

1750
01:01:24,549 --> 01:01:26,059
So... European people. Yeah.

1751
01:01:27,411 --> 01:01:29,080
So you... It's gonna save your life.

1752
01:01:30,351 --> 01:01:31,862
What's save of your guys, life, Urine in?

1753
01:01:32,434 --> 01:01:32,833
You're in,

1754
01:01:33,949 --> 01:01:36,818
j and luck, but, you know, thank in

1755
01:01:36,818 --> 01:01:37,057
luck.

1756
01:01:40,897 --> 01:01:41,454
Oh my god.

1757
01:01:42,487 --> 01:01:45,031
So to help people. Yeah. Really I'm trying

1758
01:01:45,031 --> 01:01:45,588
to help you.

1759
01:01:48,370 --> 01:01:49,801
I'm totally I may get a d shirt.

1760
01:01:50,133 --> 01:01:52,116
You're in luck. You're in luck. Oh, yeah.

1761
01:01:52,433 --> 01:01:54,019
But, you know, bang on the window, bang

1762
01:01:54,019 --> 01:01:55,684
on the the, you know, make yourself known,

1763
01:01:55,843 --> 01:01:56,953
You know, however you can.

1764
01:01:59,598 --> 01:02:00,796
You wanna try to obviously get out of

1765
01:02:00,796 --> 01:02:01,994
the house. But if you can't get out

1766
01:02:01,994 --> 01:02:02,394
the house.

1767
01:02:03,273 --> 01:02:04,791
Do you see know that you're there? They're

1768
01:02:04,791 --> 01:02:05,510
an owner you're in there?

1769
01:02:07,525 --> 01:02:10,164
Don't stop for the family heir rooms. Yeah.

1770
01:02:10,485 --> 01:02:12,485
Don't. And get a lot do people do

1771
01:02:12,485 --> 01:02:14,265
that. Oh, yeah. Like, people

1772
01:02:14,980 --> 01:02:17,140
They'll run out. Let's cell people die the

1773
01:02:17,140 --> 01:02:18,659
most common way. They run out.

1774
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:21,159
Realize, oh, my god. I forgot,

1775
01:02:21,460 --> 01:02:22,980
you know, brewers the dog.

1776
01:02:23,780 --> 01:02:25,150
And they're like, I run back the run

1777
01:02:25,150 --> 01:02:27,242
back in the die. Yeah. And

1778
01:02:28,812 --> 01:02:30,643
I could understand wanting to run ne to

1779
01:02:30,643 --> 01:02:32,076
an animal. That makes sense.

1780
01:02:32,729 --> 01:02:35,205
I'm at in an an ina object. Not

1781
01:02:35,205 --> 01:02:35,865
that I'm

1782
01:02:36,324 --> 01:02:38,342
advocating running it after your animal, but

1783
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,034
I'm just saying that

1784
01:02:40,811 --> 01:02:43,047
I can understand when people do that. Sure.

1785
01:02:44,005 --> 01:02:46,480
Sure. But you the, you know, I think

1786
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,917
that's the only thing really

1787
01:02:48,556 --> 01:02:49,606
try to get out the else if you

1788
01:02:49,606 --> 01:02:50,663
can't get out of the house

1789
01:02:51,434 --> 01:02:51,934
pee

1790
01:02:52,308 --> 01:02:53,182
everywhere. Pee a lot.

1791
01:02:53,977 --> 01:02:55,170
Like, drinking a lot of water. That's is

1792
01:02:55,170 --> 01:02:57,315
why you drink water every. You hydrated. Yeah.

1793
01:02:58,844 --> 01:03:00,921
So, yeah, you know, put... For girls,

1794
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,036
you know, you too can be standing up

1795
01:03:04,036 --> 01:03:06,365
with direction. It just takes a little practice,

1796
01:03:06,763 --> 01:03:07,320
just saying.

1797
01:03:09,548 --> 01:03:10,185
That's true.

1798
01:03:11,140 --> 01:03:11,640
Yeah

1799
01:03:12,652 --> 01:03:14,324
everybody police fire in this.

1800
01:03:16,255 --> 01:03:16,894
Fire Ems?

1801
01:03:17,534 --> 01:03:19,454
Police fire And Ems, whether you're

1802
01:03:20,174 --> 01:03:20,574
Paramedic.

1803
01:03:21,934 --> 01:03:23,214
People should keep in mind that.

1804
01:03:25,062 --> 01:03:26,094
You know, if you see him at the

1805
01:03:26,094 --> 01:03:27,524
store. Oh, yeah you see him out in

1806
01:03:27,524 --> 01:03:30,462
and about. Say thanks. Say thanks because a

1807
01:03:30,462 --> 01:03:31,812
half an hour before that, there could have

1808
01:03:31,812 --> 01:03:32,105
been

1809
01:03:33,505 --> 01:03:35,264
you know, picking a dead person up off

1810
01:03:35,264 --> 01:03:38,065
the road or, you. Seeing something that no

1811
01:03:38,065 --> 01:03:40,545
one's Eye I should ever see. Right. And

1812
01:03:40,545 --> 01:03:41,994
people don't think about that. I just look

1813
01:03:41,994 --> 01:03:42,947
at it for what it is. You know,

1814
01:03:43,105 --> 01:03:43,423
And now.

1815
01:03:44,138 --> 01:03:46,203
But I, we've been talking about bad stuff.

1816
01:03:46,441 --> 01:03:47,632
I've seen a lot of great stuff too,

1817
01:03:47,791 --> 01:03:48,291
like

1818
01:03:50,192 --> 01:03:51,728
I had a woman once that

1819
01:03:52,424 --> 01:03:53,699
this is a good story. This is a

1820
01:03:53,699 --> 01:03:55,772
pretty... I'll be the judge of that. Okay.

1821
01:03:56,012 --> 01:03:56,889
I think you'll like it.

1822
01:03:59,059 --> 01:03:59,460
But she,

1823
01:04:00,260 --> 01:04:01,940
we got a call fucking an unknown problem,

1824
01:04:02,900 --> 01:04:03,400
and

1825
01:04:04,099 --> 01:04:05,300
me another guy go out there.

1826
01:04:06,112 --> 01:04:07,543
And I... We got in the driveway, and

1827
01:04:07,543 --> 01:04:08,259
I and I looked...

1828
01:04:09,213 --> 01:04:10,724
And, like, there's a car, the driveway with

1829
01:04:10,724 --> 01:04:12,634
the driver's door wide open, and the cars

1830
01:04:12,634 --> 01:04:15,119
like kinda radically parked driving 1 that odd.

1831
01:04:15,358 --> 01:04:17,116
I just, you know, common sense. That's just

1832
01:04:17,116 --> 01:04:17,835
odd. Yeah.

1833
01:04:19,354 --> 01:04:21,032
So the garage door was opened. So I

1834
01:04:21,032 --> 01:04:22,310
said, go in the house once you go

1835
01:04:22,310 --> 01:04:23,164
the front door

1836
01:04:23,603 --> 01:04:25,595
and we'll see what's going on. Like on

1837
01:04:25,595 --> 01:04:26,073
the house,

1838
01:04:26,869 --> 01:04:28,463
there's this elderly man.

1839
01:04:29,260 --> 01:04:30,787
I mean, he was at the a time.

1840
01:04:30,946 --> 01:04:32,612
This is years ago. He was old. And

1841
01:04:32,612 --> 01:04:34,198
he was watching Jeopardy, and he had it

1842
01:04:34,198 --> 01:04:37,213
on, like, full till, like... And he didn't

1843
01:04:37,213 --> 01:04:40,255
even like turned to see the stranger than

1844
01:04:40,255 --> 01:04:40,654
house.

1845
01:04:41,132 --> 01:04:44,083
He just cat jeopardy. It's probably double jeopardy.

1846
01:04:44,322 --> 01:04:45,119
It probably was.

1847
01:04:46,076 --> 01:04:46,235
Yeah.

1848
01:04:47,842 --> 01:04:49,910
So he goes... Important stuff. So I got

1849
01:04:49,910 --> 01:04:51,739
site. I look over on on the other

1850
01:04:51,739 --> 01:04:53,965
side of the kitchen counter, and there's a

1851
01:04:53,965 --> 01:04:56,135
woman, not breed with the phone in her

1852
01:04:56,135 --> 01:04:58,215
hand, the phone is in her hand,

1853
01:04:58,695 --> 01:04:59,575
and she's on the ground,

1854
01:05:00,295 --> 01:05:03,815
and she had no pulse. So she's clearly

1855
01:05:03,815 --> 01:05:03,974
dead.

1856
01:05:05,825 --> 01:05:09,095
And some... Alright. Well, like, start Cpr, so

1857
01:05:09,095 --> 01:05:11,408
we we're doing Cpr, and I and I

1858
01:05:11,408 --> 01:05:12,844
looked in the back we're throat with a

1859
01:05:12,844 --> 01:05:14,853
piece of equipment, and I and I looked

1860
01:05:14,853 --> 01:05:15,969
in the throat, I remember like,

1861
01:05:16,766 --> 01:05:19,021
this woman choked to death. Like, there's ham

1862
01:05:19,717 --> 01:05:21,072
all over the back of her throat. So

1863
01:05:21,232 --> 01:05:22,588
I put a breathing tube in her throat.

1864
01:05:23,639 --> 01:05:25,305
Know, gave her some oxygen for a little

1865
01:05:25,305 --> 01:05:26,177
bit, and she started...

1866
01:05:26,812 --> 01:05:29,034
She didn't totally wake up, but she started

1867
01:05:29,034 --> 01:05:30,010
improving vastly.

1868
01:05:30,779 --> 01:05:32,223
So she must have I've been down mom?

1869
01:05:32,382 --> 01:05:34,212
No. Not at all. No. She went down

1870
01:05:34,212 --> 01:05:36,280
long. Yeah. You know. And how should you

1871
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,746
go they're You to... Well, 10 minutes is

1872
01:05:38,746 --> 01:05:41,467
when start having... If you have no oxygen

1873
01:05:41,467 --> 01:05:42,820
in your brain for 10 minutes,

1874
01:05:43,456 --> 01:05:45,525
then you start having irreversible brain. And you

1875
01:05:45,525 --> 01:05:46,321
become a politician.

1876
01:05:47,290 --> 01:05:47,449
Yeah.

1877
01:05:49,751 --> 01:05:51,498
Lot of different podcasts here today.

1878
01:05:52,292 --> 01:05:54,356
Like, we're gonna be like, we got a

1879
01:05:54,356 --> 01:05:55,150
month's more of material.

1880
01:05:56,677 --> 01:05:57,075
So

1881
01:05:58,430 --> 01:06:00,741
yes. She started kinda coming around and and

1882
01:06:00,741 --> 01:06:01,060
so like,

1883
01:06:01,937 --> 01:06:03,393
what I gave her some medicine

1884
01:06:04,499 --> 01:06:06,480
to make her go to sleep to you

1885
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,382
comfortable. And right before I did, I said,

1886
01:06:09,175 --> 01:06:10,523
if I'm breathing for you,

1887
01:06:11,650 --> 01:06:13,090
don't know what happened with you, but I

1888
01:06:13,090 --> 01:06:14,210
think you choked on ham,

1889
01:06:15,809 --> 01:06:18,690
but if you understand what I'm saying blink

1890
01:06:18,690 --> 01:06:20,289
twice, and she went twice...

1891
01:06:20,941 --> 01:06:22,292
Okay. I'm gonna put... Give you somebody medicine

1892
01:06:22,292 --> 01:06:24,120
to go to sleep, and you're wake up

1893
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:24,677
a little bit later,

1894
01:06:25,710 --> 01:06:26,823
but that's what we're gonna do right now.

1895
01:06:27,458 --> 01:06:27,958
And

1896
01:06:28,347 --> 01:06:29,697
because she started kinda waking up with a

1897
01:06:29,697 --> 01:06:31,443
tube thrown. That's just trying to yell out

1898
01:06:31,443 --> 01:06:33,984
the jeopardy answer. Right. No. Right. Get her

1899
01:06:33,984 --> 01:06:36,445
out. I'll take what the fuck for 1000.

1900
01:06:37,733 --> 01:06:39,246
So she goes,

1901
01:06:41,159 --> 01:06:42,035
we get her the able to go to

1902
01:06:42,035 --> 01:06:43,151
the hospital. And I and I dropped her

1903
01:06:43,151 --> 01:06:44,824
off, and I come back about an hour

1904
01:06:44,824 --> 01:06:46,657
later, and she's sitting up in bed, like,

1905
01:06:46,736 --> 01:06:47,548
you and Right now.

1906
01:06:48,585 --> 01:06:50,579
We're not in bed people. Oh, that. Like

1907
01:06:50,579 --> 01:06:51,137
not. Yeah.

1908
01:06:51,776 --> 01:06:52,276
Let's

1909
01:06:52,892 --> 01:06:54,828
let's create guys. She was in a hospital

1910
01:06:54,966 --> 01:06:55,205
bed.

1911
01:06:56,003 --> 01:06:56,960
We're to kitchen table.

1912
01:06:57,928 --> 01:06:58,484
Big difference.

1913
01:06:59,754 --> 01:06:59,992
So,

1914
01:07:00,706 --> 01:07:02,215
but she goes, yeah. My chest is kinda

1915
01:07:02,215 --> 01:07:03,803
sore and I'm like, hey, listen,

1916
01:07:05,246 --> 01:07:05,746
what

1917
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:08,023
exactly happened, and she said, I was eating

1918
01:07:08,023 --> 01:07:08,816
a ham sandwich,

1919
01:07:09,768 --> 01:07:10,664
and I

1920
01:07:11,196 --> 01:07:13,440
start choking I pulled the driveway ran out

1921
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:14,637
of my car, and went to down 1,

1922
01:07:14,716 --> 01:07:16,950
but I couldn't speak. She had total airway

1923
01:07:16,950 --> 01:07:17,428
occlusion. Right?

1924
01:07:18,943 --> 01:07:21,017
And then she just doesn't remember what happened

1925
01:07:21,017 --> 01:07:23,346
after that. So But I said, who was

1926
01:07:23,346 --> 01:07:25,421
the guy watch jeopardy. I think we all

1927
01:07:25,421 --> 01:07:27,176
wanna know that. In the living room. And

1928
01:07:27,176 --> 01:07:28,953
she's like, oh, I'm I'm his caregiver?

1929
01:07:30,063 --> 01:07:31,830
And I'm like, that guy

1930
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:32,860
never

1931
01:07:33,628 --> 01:07:34,128
ever

1932
01:07:34,737 --> 01:07:37,208
even turned his head. While you guys are

1933
01:07:37,208 --> 01:07:39,429
working on him? That once? He didn't? Did

1934
01:07:39,429 --> 01:07:41,491
he know? Was he that? He... He had

1935
01:07:41,491 --> 01:07:42,918
no straighten like 5,

1936
01:07:43,632 --> 01:07:45,034
6 strangers in his house

1937
01:07:45,551 --> 01:07:47,220
Like, 10 feet behind him. How would you...

1938
01:07:47,379 --> 01:07:47,697
You know?

1939
01:07:49,366 --> 01:07:51,138
It's like a really horrifying

1940
01:07:51,830 --> 01:07:52,386
Snl skin.

1941
01:07:53,036 --> 01:07:54,465
I'm like, yeah. You know? I'm like, hey,

1942
01:07:54,624 --> 01:07:56,053
It looks like today we got the daily

1943
01:07:56,053 --> 01:07:56,291
double,

1944
01:07:56,926 --> 01:07:58,831
and we got the final question. Right? Oh

1945
01:07:58,831 --> 01:08:01,133
my god. So so forward 2 years later.

1946
01:08:01,704 --> 01:08:03,063
My uncle call goes, hey. I'm going to

1947
01:08:03,063 --> 01:08:03,782
a party tonight.

1948
01:08:05,619 --> 01:08:07,297
My friends, would you guys come? I'm saying,

1949
01:08:07,537 --> 01:08:07,697
sure.

1950
01:08:08,496 --> 01:08:09,590
Was a man and his wife

1951
01:08:10,910 --> 01:08:12,190
so we're sitting out,

1952
01:08:12,910 --> 01:08:15,010
you know, having a couple drinks talking about

1953
01:08:15,309 --> 01:08:17,470
whatever they doing fire and they're they're going

1954
01:08:18,524 --> 01:08:20,269
she does, of course, everybody always does. Like,

1955
01:08:20,348 --> 01:08:22,173
what's the craziest thing you've seen? And I

1956
01:08:22,173 --> 01:08:23,284
don't like to talk about it. You know,

1957
01:08:23,364 --> 01:08:25,720
this isn't like about me This is... It's

1958
01:08:25,840 --> 01:08:28,713
us. Like... Sure. It's a tomb sport. Still

1959
01:08:28,793 --> 01:08:31,188
I me do have stories. It's okay. Something

1960
01:08:31,188 --> 01:08:31,747
like thinking...

1961
01:08:33,343 --> 01:08:35,353
Okay. I, what's the story to tell had

1962
01:08:35,353 --> 01:08:37,180
a good ending, you know, I'm like, I'll

1963
01:08:37,180 --> 01:08:38,292
tell the jump play story.

1964
01:08:39,007 --> 01:08:39,801
It's great ending.

1965
01:08:41,390 --> 01:08:42,899
Tell the whole story I just told you.

1966
01:08:43,773 --> 01:08:44,726
At the end, she goes.

1967
01:08:46,256 --> 01:08:48,488
Was her name such and such? And sydney.

1968
01:08:49,127 --> 01:08:51,997
Yeah. She's like, that's my mom. No way.

1969
01:08:52,476 --> 01:08:54,883
Swear got true story. Weird. Gosh she's that's

1970
01:08:54,883 --> 01:08:55,200
my mom.

1971
01:08:55,993 --> 01:08:56,865
It's sharp crying.

1972
01:08:57,897 --> 01:08:59,484
Yeah. We're still friends this day. Know, That's

1973
01:08:59,484 --> 01:09:01,466
the awesome. And they end up bringing her

1974
01:09:01,466 --> 01:09:02,260
mom to the

1975
01:09:03,708 --> 01:09:05,627
awards banquet went when all of us got

1976
01:09:05,627 --> 01:09:06,426
recognized for that call.

1977
01:09:07,225 --> 01:09:08,424
Yeah. Did you deserve ham?

1978
01:09:10,581 --> 01:09:12,074
Now I hand was off a many

1979
01:09:12,593 --> 01:09:15,463
That all go you gonna eat. Bites. Can't

1980
01:09:15,463 --> 01:09:18,094
chew your food. Right? Like... Thank you so

1981
01:09:18,174 --> 01:09:19,689
Much. Is there anything else you wanna talk

1982
01:09:19,689 --> 01:09:20,859
about, but my

1983
01:09:22,254 --> 01:09:24,963
I mean, I put any questions jeff? How

1984
01:09:24,963 --> 01:09:26,238
long does it take you to grow that

1985
01:09:26,238 --> 01:09:28,469
full beard in mustache? You know it's epic.

1986
01:09:28,787 --> 01:09:31,669
Like, like, 7 days. Yeah. You're fuzzy dude.

1987
01:09:32,465 --> 01:09:32,782
Thanks.

1988
01:09:34,691 --> 01:09:35,645
Genetics. Yeah.

1989
01:09:36,361 --> 01:09:37,395
There's a bear ladies.

1990
01:09:41,467 --> 01:09:43,456
Thank you so much Brooks for being on.

1991
01:09:43,694 --> 01:09:45,286
Hey you, and I really appreciate it. Thank

1992
01:09:45,286 --> 01:09:47,372
you. I appreciate it. Was it was I

1993
01:09:47,372 --> 01:09:49,447
didn't know what to expect, but it was

1994
01:09:49,447 --> 01:09:51,281
nice. Really it's awesome.

1995
01:09:52,319 --> 01:09:54,088
But those of you who are interested to

1996
01:09:54,088 --> 01:09:57,268
ground and hit the extra content for for

1997
01:09:57,268 --> 01:09:57,904
more from Brooks.

1998
01:09:58,541 --> 01:10:01,006
Everybody thanked a firefighter policeman as an Emt

1999
01:10:01,006 --> 01:10:01,641
and a paramedic.

2000
01:10:02,373 --> 01:10:04,289
Thanks for listening, and Hope appreciate it. I.

2001
01:10:04,529 --> 01:10:05,167
I know I did.

2002
01:10:07,881 --> 01:10:09,318
Now this since we're bed together and all.

2003
01:10:09,478 --> 01:10:10,276
Yeah. I no doubt.

2004
01:10:11,079 --> 01:10:11,579
Cheese

2005
01:10:11,940 --> 01:10:12,489
eating ham.