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Hey, humans. How's it going? Susan Ruth here.

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Thanks for listening to another episode

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of Hey, Human podcast.

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This is episode

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458,

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and my guest is Chad Covington.

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He's the founder and CEO of Creative Within,

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and he grew up exploring the world of

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computers and their language and their inner

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and outer workings.

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And WeChat

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AI,

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artificial intelligence,

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its applications and implications,

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and what that technology means for humans moving

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forward, how we will evolve with AI or

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not,

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how AI will evolve with or without us.

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Very interesting conversation

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and,

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I mean, timely. Things are getting pretty weird

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out there.

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Thank you, by the way, for your patience.

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I've been gone for a couple weeks. I

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was in

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France.

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I was at Cannes and in Seattle with

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my short film, and, also, my mother had

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a heart procedure. It went really well. She's

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doing fine.

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So thank you for your patience while I

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was going through all those things and doing

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all those things.

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And we're back, and I appreciate your patience,

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in between.

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Here we go.

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Chad Covington, welcome to Hey Human. Thank you.

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Thank you for having me.

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Everything about you is intriguing to me. What

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you do for a living, what interests you.

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So I'm really excited that you're on the

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show. Thank you. I'm excited too. I am.

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Let's dig right in. Tell me where you

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were born. Where did you grow up? How

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that shaped you?

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Wow.

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Originally from Hampton, Virginia. It is a town

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athletes, I would say. The the

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majority of the people there have are competitive,

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play sports in some nature. From what I've

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seen, Athletes and military,

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it's a big military town as well

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too. So, I was raised by my mother.

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I have a ton of sisters.

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I have a big family of sisters, I'll

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say cousins,

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my God family, but the main person in

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my life that was important to me was

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my mother. The person who gave me the

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whole foundation in my life,

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spirituality,

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and just she's the reason why I am

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who I am today. So Hey. Good job.

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Thank you. I'm sure when she hears that

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she she will be happy, but, you know,

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she, she's a phenomenal woman.

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What's it like being raised in a family

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with all sisters? You say you have six.

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Right?

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Yeah. I have an interesting story as far

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as the the true it's not a traditional

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six, but it's a six I say,

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more publicly. Now I do have some god

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brothers in there as well too.

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To me, it was it was all it

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was kinda normal.

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But as I'm growing up and looking back,

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I'm realizing it probably wasn't so normal. In

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just the context of how we all were

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raised together in this sense of family,

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that's what I think is kind of giving

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me that foundation of just patience

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and willingness to

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come together as

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just thinking a little bit differently. Sometimes I

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think I'm connected a little bit too much

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to my feminine side, being raised by nothing

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but primarily women, for the most part, with

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the exception of godfathers and uncles and things

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like that that have came in and out

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of my life. But To be in touch

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with your feminine side, to me, that just

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means that you are you listen

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or maybe you're more present.

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we put that on men of having that

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be some sort of a negative where same

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with on women.

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because she, you know, gets things done or

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is boss in her life. Right. Isn't that

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interesting how we do that?

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For me, it's a combination of that. You

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are right. But I also mean as far

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as the way that I was raised is

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you better be able to do both. Right?

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You better be able to take care of

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the house, but you better be able to

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cook clean and do everything too. And you

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better open all the doors for all of

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us and have the chivalry side too. But

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I guess I see it because in a

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lot of my male friends, especially,

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like there's things that I hear they struggle

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with, the attentiveness and just things that I

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felt like I was almost groomed to do.

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And they tell me, well, man, we don't

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have that. We just don't we weren't raised

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like that or and and I'm like, I

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don't necessarily mean no. That's just

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the female aspect, but more of just maybe

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how I was raised.

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I think of, okay, sports

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and military that surrounding your town,

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which is

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hyper masculine. Right? You think of sport, military,

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and then having that balance of the feminine

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energy

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growing up in that household,

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I'm I'm sure that was a an interesting

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you know, the minute you leave the house,

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you have these outside influences

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informing you. And then inside the house, it's

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a whole other vibe of you. I I

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took a personality test one time at a

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organization I was with prior, and

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it it labeled me pretty much as a

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chameleonaire

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and being able to adapt to multiple

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areas. And I had to I did some

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inner work, and I'm like, what does that

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actually mean?

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And I thought about just my upbringing. So

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I grew up in, like I said, Hampton,

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Virginia, primarily

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more in a black area,

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but then my mother pushed us to go

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to more predominantly white schools.

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So I would leave the house in,

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this area where it was predominantly black and

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there was things going on that made

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me kind of question to go to a

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better school and get a better environment. But

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even from that moment, I would go to

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the schools

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and wouldn't be accepted because I'm

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pretty much the only black person in the

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school. Well, not in school, but in classes.

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So I wasn't accepted there. But then when

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I came home, all my friends that were

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in my neighborhood, they would tell me,

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why don't you go to school with us?

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And and I get questioned that way, and

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I would have to adapt almost to this

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person that had to survive in either world.

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The code switching.

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Yeah. Absolutely. I've had to do it my

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whole life. Yeah.

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Do you find that now as an adult

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that comes up a lot, or are you

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more integrated into yourself as far as just

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you exist in the world as who you

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are instead of thinking about it? Mhmm. It's

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just started,

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I would say, in the last year, maybe,

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give or take two years. It's after

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it it truly started for me during the

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pandemic where the isolation

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and realizing

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I'm not necessarily showing up

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a % as I want to,

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in who I am. It's something as simple

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and I've talked about this to my friends

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and family. Like, even with my hair, never

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had hair, never you know, I was very

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clean-cut, looked like

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very professional suits, ties, everything like that every

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day.

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And it was just things that I wanted

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to do that I think not not just

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myself. I think all of us at some

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point during the pandemic,

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it changed us and who we are. Just

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for me, it was more I lived too

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much in the corporate world, and I care

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too much about what everybody perceived me as

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versus showing

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up who I am authentically, which has been

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a focus of me as of late. I

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think the isolation from the world that I

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was used to being in. Right? You're sitting

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in meetings every day. At the time, I

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had just done an acquisition,

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so I was flying to Chicago every other

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week for the last two years. I was

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always on. I was dealing with the FTC,

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to get an acquisition approved and dealing with

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just

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a lot of corporate that I I had

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to always be on for almost two years.

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And then the pandemic hit, and that just

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completely stopped.

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The pandemic did such an interesting thing to

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humans.

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I I often think about this when I'm

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at the airport.

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I say, god, the people at the airports

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feel feral anymore.

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It's just,

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like, what is that movie?

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Thunderdome where everybody's just out of themselves and

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being

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intense and shoving and not paying attention to

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the outside of themselves. And it's almost like

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we've all forgotten

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in a way how how to human or

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something. Or maybe we never had it at

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all, and it just we had a little

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bit more practice when we were amongst each

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other. I I agree with that. I talk

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about this all the time. I'm an over

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giver, and I'm guilty. That's like,

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I will give

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here. Just take it. I don't care because

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I feel like we are supposed to help

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each other. That is the the whole purpose

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in us being in this

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alive. Right? We're supposed to do good, love

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each other, and help each other, and ascend

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to another level of honestly consciousness. But I

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think we, as a society, are so self

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absorbed into

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me, me, me. Right? And we don't realize

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that if we would actually help each other,

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we would all be better.

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But, I mean, that's why

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I didn't really know anybody at that party.

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I mean, I knew the host, obviously. But

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and then I sat down, and we immediately

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started talking. And to me, that's

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that's normal and that that's how we should

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all be. We shall just start talking to

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each other. Right. And then our own self

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unassuredness

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or

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fish out of water or I don't know

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anybody

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what if I say the wrong thing or

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do the wrong thing or, you know, whatever

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it is. We

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I think

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what I recognized in you that I feel

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like I have in me too is

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that it's just like, oh,

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here's a human being that, you know, is

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smiling and friendly and chatty and And it's

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an energy. It's almost like a welcoming energy.

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I get it from my mom because she's

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the same same exact way. Does it tire

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you out? Do you feel like you give

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a lot of yourself? You said you're you

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give and give and give, but do emotionally,

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do you think that

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when you get home at night, do you

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kinda crash out? I do.

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I absolutely do.

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And I'm trying to find that balance too.

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I am an empath, so I feel things.

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I feel energy.

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Immediately when I feel people, I can sometimes

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growing up, this was an issue with me

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because I didn't know what this was. I

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would feel drained or I would feel tired.

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And and it's not necessarily me I'm feeling.

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I can feel others. Through practice,

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you have to elevate your energy either higher

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than the room or sometimes you have to

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leave the room and just take a minute

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for yourself. It's okay to tell

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others, hey. I just need a moment for

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myself or, you know, to show up as

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the best version of yourself. It makes all

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the difference in the world to replug into

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oneself.

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But it is something that's hard to learn

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if you're a giver.

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Very hard. I'm I still struggle with it

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because at the same token, I know,

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and I pray over things. Right? I I

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ask for guidance.

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I'm not perfect by any means. I'm human,

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and I mess up all the time.

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But I can honestly say I've helped more

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than I've hurt

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the majority of these people in the in

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my life, you know, and it is a

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balance. It is truly a balance. I got

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party when so I drove just for the

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day just to show up for my friends.

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You know what I mean? Because I I

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I had a I had a feeling that

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was gonna happen, but my confirmation happened and

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the proposal and the housewarming. Everything just it

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was so beautiful.

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And, you know, most people my friends tell

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me, why are you you're driving there for

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a day. That's crazy. And it's like, no.

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You show up for your people. Yeah. And

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I think as we grow older too, we

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we draw if we're lucky, we draw in

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people that don't take advantage of that kindness.

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Kindness is not weakness.

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Right.

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Right. That's a that's a fair statement

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that I I also get all the time.

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Because just because I'm kind does not mean

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you can take advantage of me.

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I will speak up.

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Yeah. I think that's a lesson a lot

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of empaths have to learn kinda early on

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because we get

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get beat up a bit. Mhmm. It's so

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horrible. And then

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one day, you wake up, you're like, I'm

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kinda tired of that.

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When you were in school, I you and

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I joked that you said you were a

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nerd. When you were in school growing up,

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did were you already drawn

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to things that were numerical and sciency and

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all that? Did you find yourself being pulled

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in that direction instead of, you know, you

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grew up in a town that's really big

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on sports and military instead of that? I

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grew up,

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playing playing sports, playing basketball.

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And in my head, I was gonna be

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the next Michael Jordan. However, life had a

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different path for me, and that's okay. I

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found myself as a child always tinkering. Right?

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I like to take things apart, put them

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together,

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and and I was just creative

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from a technology perspective. And then,

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my my godfather, who was the first person

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that really

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showed me he always had computers, and he's

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paramilitary

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air traffic controller with the air force. And

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so he always had this stuff, just

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stuff that now is normal, but then he

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had computers back when they weren't so normal

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to have them. And my god family was

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big on just they we always came together.

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My mom was like their mom because my

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god family's, their mother actually passed. And so

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my father wasn't in my life, so he

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kinda gave me that security there. And so

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from there, I would go over to his

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house. He'd give me his old computers,

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and that's where it started. It it you

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know, it was I'd go play basketball. I'd

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come do all this stuff, and then I'd

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come home and I slowly learn about computers.

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And then

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growing up the way we grew up, we

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were poor. So when he gave us his

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old computers,

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they were outdated. So I started to learn

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slowly. Okay. I need to go and buy

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these things to make it move faster or

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more memory

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and slowly started building on that over time.

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By that time in around high school, I'd

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say maybe middle school, high school,

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computers were more of a thing and they

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started actually showing, okay, let's teach you how

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to type. Let's teach you how to do

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all these things.

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And I'm typing a 20 words a minute.

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And I'm like, this is not normal. And

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I'm telling my mom, she's like, yeah, my

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son can type so fast. I'm like, mom,

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I don't know how to explain it. I

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just understand computers. Once I'm sitting down with

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one,

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even to this day, it's it's it's a

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gift for me to be able to understand

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applications,

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and not have the formal training.

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It feels

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almost euphoric for me

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to when I when I'm on a computer

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and I'm solving a problem,

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And

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almost to the point, it's it it can

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be a curse sometimes because I will stay

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in my office for three days straight

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to solve a problem.

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And so I think

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that's the fascination. Like, even when when AI

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came out, right, I was obsessive over it.

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Like, okay, how do let me understand this.

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It was

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it was something that I I I've always

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had the ability to see things for their

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true potential later on

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faster than others. And so when that happens,

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I'm like, okay. How can I truly understand

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this?

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I started tinkering more and more and more

435
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and started under this understanding the computer more.

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And my godfather,

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he he big Star Trek guy in Star

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Wars. So

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we're always talking about the typical nerd stuff,

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and

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we would always be talking about computers. And

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then I had this one friend who was

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a little bit older than me in my

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neighborhood. He was always on computers as well

445
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too.

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And so we started just talking about things.

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We'd be downloading music

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when we should not have been downloading music,

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but that's what we did, and and putting

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things on CDs and selling them and doing

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whatever we had to do.

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But it just

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I started seeing as this is an opportunity

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of, like, there's something more to this. I

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don't understand it now, but it's gonna come

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to me one day. Did you go to

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college for computers?

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No. Went to school for business management.

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Did my first my first job out of

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college was at Enterprise, the car rental company.

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So I was learning about business from there,

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and then I got an opportunity to work

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for a government contractor in Dallas, Fort Worth.

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So that got me

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to escape Virginia and move to Texas.

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And I think

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that job has kinda made me get more

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technical, learning about databases.

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It started with Excel, but then it just

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extended out to SQL, learning about networks, how

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everything interacts together.

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And And then from there, I got an

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opportunity to move to Arizona,

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which

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was

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a different level of

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technical with

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management of computers,

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and and the team and projects and overseeing

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just, you know,

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a company being sold, I've been very fortunate.

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I mean, even when I was in Texas,

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we, we supported the military as a government

484
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contractor. So I spent some time in Afghanistan.

485
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We would go to Kuwait, done, meetings in

486
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Dubai. Just was it was I was very

487
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fortunate early on.

488
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First of all, it must have been hard

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to suddenly leave a big family like that

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and be

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on your own.

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Was that difficult?

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No. I have my own bathroom.

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I can

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And I tampon in sight. Right, I don't

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have any anything, no one yelling at me,

497
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no, you know, at my own space,

498
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no, it was

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I was

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So I played basketball in Italy and Greece

501
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when I was 16.

502
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Oh, wow.

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And when I did that, it was a

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sports ambassador program called People to People.

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When I did that, that changed my life,

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I was ready to leave

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immediately.

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And my mother will vouch for me on

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this too is that when I came back,

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I looked different, and I was a completely

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different person because I realized there was a

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bigger world than Hampton, Virginia.

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I think every I I mean, I wish

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every kid could afford to travel the world

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because it does open up the mind and

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the soul so much.

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It it changed my life completely. I mean,

518
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I was not in the best situation sports

519
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wise. That's all I was living and breathing

520
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at the time. Grades were always fine. I

521
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didn't have the best coaching, but that opportunity,

522
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it changed my life completely when I got

523
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back. Even everyone when they saw me, they

524
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I've lost a ton of weight. I had

525
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all the baby fat that just

526
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disappeared in that time period. And,

527
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I when I looked back on life, that

528
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was a a key pivotal moment for me.

529
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And did you already start to develop businesses?

530
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Because I I think I remember you saying

531
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that you sold a couple businesses in your

532
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young life, and were you already getting the

533
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seeds for that?

534
00:18:42,690 --> 00:18:45,009
No. That was more just with the acquisition

535
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that I did, but I I've always been

536
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kind of an entrepreneur,

537
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in some way or shape. When I look

538
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back, even

539
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as a kid on the computer selling

540
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CDs and music. Right? And then from there,

541
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when I went to college and stopped pursuing

542
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basketball,

543
00:18:58,695 --> 00:19:01,734
I was working multiple jobs. I remember getting

544
00:19:01,734 --> 00:19:03,275
a contract as a DJ.

545
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:06,069
So I taught myself how to DJ. It

546
00:19:06,069 --> 00:19:07,829
was at Everett University. That was the first

547
00:19:07,829 --> 00:19:10,150
school I went to, but all the music,

548
00:19:10,150 --> 00:19:11,849
ironically enough, that I had downloaded

549
00:19:12,710 --> 00:19:13,210
before

550
00:19:13,829 --> 00:19:16,069
ended up becoming my music now that I

551
00:19:16,069 --> 00:19:17,744
could use to actually go and make money

552
00:19:17,744 --> 00:19:19,904
at the university. And so I would do

553
00:19:19,904 --> 00:19:21,825
gigs. I remember telling my friends, they were

554
00:19:21,825 --> 00:19:23,585
like, how'd you learn how to DJ and

555
00:19:23,585 --> 00:19:25,845
where did this come from? Like, well, technically,

556
00:19:25,904 --> 00:19:27,424
my mom and I guess my dad told

557
00:19:27,424 --> 00:19:29,125
me they used to DJ before, but

558
00:19:29,424 --> 00:19:31,845
I I never physically saw it. But,

559
00:19:32,349 --> 00:19:33,970
I remember we did have

560
00:19:34,829 --> 00:19:36,049
this one turntable,

561
00:19:36,909 --> 00:19:38,849
growing up that I would just play with.

562
00:19:39,149 --> 00:19:40,429
And so it's I'm like, this can't be

563
00:19:40,429 --> 00:19:41,869
that hard. Right? You can teach yourself how

564
00:19:41,869 --> 00:19:43,089
to DJ. You just

565
00:19:43,710 --> 00:19:46,130
figure it out, and I figured it out.

566
00:19:46,829 --> 00:19:48,325
You were the kid that took apart and

567
00:19:48,325 --> 00:19:51,144
we put together the toaster probably. Right? Mhmm.

568
00:19:51,605 --> 00:19:53,125
Yeah. And try to make a TV out

569
00:19:53,125 --> 00:19:54,744
of a toaster or you know?

570
00:19:55,605 --> 00:19:57,845
But it's always been like that. I've always

571
00:19:57,845 --> 00:19:58,505
had to

572
00:19:58,884 --> 00:20:00,325
make the best with what I have to

573
00:20:00,325 --> 00:20:02,004
figure it out. And it even now I

574
00:20:02,004 --> 00:20:03,170
do some consulting on the side.

575
00:20:04,509 --> 00:20:06,369
Right? And I've been able to leverage my

576
00:20:06,830 --> 00:20:08,289
experiences throughout life and helping

577
00:20:08,590 --> 00:20:11,150
people to help a lot of small businesses

578
00:20:11,150 --> 00:20:12,690
that are trying to scale up.

579
00:20:14,350 --> 00:20:16,109
But it I don't know. Life's a circle.

580
00:20:16,109 --> 00:20:17,954
It all comes together. It really does. Let's

581
00:20:17,954 --> 00:20:20,515
talk about AI. That really got it going

582
00:20:20,515 --> 00:20:21,414
at the party.

583
00:20:22,355 --> 00:20:23,015
Do you

584
00:20:23,634 --> 00:20:25,794
first of all, what is your perspective on

585
00:20:25,794 --> 00:20:26,294
AI,

586
00:20:26,595 --> 00:20:28,615
where it is now, and where it's heading?

587
00:20:28,994 --> 00:20:31,095
We, we're all doomed. I'm kidding.

588
00:20:31,554 --> 00:20:32,650
But it's,

589
00:20:34,009 --> 00:20:35,849
I don't know. I don't know. I I

590
00:20:35,849 --> 00:20:38,250
I spend too much time with AI. You

591
00:20:38,250 --> 00:20:40,730
train it. Yes? I train them train the

592
00:20:40,730 --> 00:20:43,049
models as well as I leverage it on

593
00:20:43,049 --> 00:20:44,569
a day to day basis. So I leverage

594
00:20:44,569 --> 00:20:46,365
it on the aspect of, like, we all

595
00:20:46,365 --> 00:20:47,884
do, right, in some way or shape, but

596
00:20:47,884 --> 00:20:49,884
some of us are more heavily into it

597
00:20:49,884 --> 00:20:52,464
where you're looking at building the models.

598
00:20:52,924 --> 00:20:53,424
So

599
00:20:54,525 --> 00:20:56,865
case in point, if I were to

600
00:20:58,710 --> 00:21:00,710
wanna have an analyst. Think of an analyst,

601
00:21:00,710 --> 00:21:03,269
a financial analyst. We'll we'll say stock market.

602
00:21:03,269 --> 00:21:05,210
Right? Got a stock market,

603
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:07,990
somebody that's a financial analyst or their financial

604
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:08,490
broker.

605
00:21:08,869 --> 00:21:10,230
And so what they do is they look

606
00:21:10,230 --> 00:21:12,309
at data all day. They make business decisions.

607
00:21:12,309 --> 00:21:13,429
They might call you and say, hey. We

608
00:21:13,429 --> 00:21:16,284
think these stocks are going to do well,

609
00:21:16,284 --> 00:21:17,804
and you should invest your money in these

610
00:21:17,804 --> 00:21:18,704
stocks. Right?

611
00:21:19,164 --> 00:21:20,605
They have to do a ton of research

612
00:21:20,605 --> 00:21:22,304
all day and night. That's what they do.

613
00:21:22,684 --> 00:21:24,524
Now in this case, I would look to

614
00:21:24,524 --> 00:21:26,444
work with my myself and my team because

615
00:21:26,444 --> 00:21:28,599
it's not just me, but we would look

616
00:21:28,599 --> 00:21:31,079
at all the data elements and build the

617
00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:32,299
model to where

618
00:21:32,919 --> 00:21:36,200
we could potentially have a financial analyst that's

619
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,460
doing the insights. That's the AI model.

620
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,659
So, theoretically,

621
00:21:40,039 --> 00:21:42,859
either that financial analyst can leverage that tool

622
00:21:43,184 --> 00:21:44,884
to then help its clients faster

623
00:21:46,384 --> 00:21:47,924
in this first wave of AI.

624
00:21:48,225 --> 00:21:50,705
Right? But this next wave that I think

625
00:21:50,705 --> 00:21:52,884
that we can get to in this example

626
00:21:53,825 --> 00:21:55,125
is that it would

627
00:21:55,424 --> 00:21:57,125
theoretically become autonomous,

628
00:21:58,339 --> 00:22:01,299
meaning the data is free flowing into the

629
00:22:01,299 --> 00:22:01,799
AI

630
00:22:02,259 --> 00:22:04,820
model. And there's multiple different levels of AI.

631
00:22:04,820 --> 00:22:07,700
It's not just this one one all size

632
00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:10,339
fits everything. But theoretically, and this is where

633
00:22:10,339 --> 00:22:12,019
I'm more curious and still trying to understand

634
00:22:12,019 --> 00:22:13,994
more even with OpenAI and all these different

635
00:22:14,075 --> 00:22:14,894
companies is

636
00:22:15,515 --> 00:22:17,694
what is driving the back end model

637
00:22:17,994 --> 00:22:20,075
for them? Like, what is their what is

638
00:22:20,075 --> 00:22:21,214
their back end?

639
00:22:21,914 --> 00:22:23,615
Like like, in in the financial,

640
00:22:24,954 --> 00:22:27,035
the financial model, I'm telling you, that's just

641
00:22:27,035 --> 00:22:28,255
one type of model.

642
00:22:29,369 --> 00:22:31,529
But within their model, it's a language model,

643
00:22:31,529 --> 00:22:33,609
but it also can do other things. Right?

644
00:22:33,609 --> 00:22:35,369
It can it can do math. It can

645
00:22:35,369 --> 00:22:36,109
do analytics.

646
00:22:36,490 --> 00:22:38,490
Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's wrong, but it's

647
00:22:38,490 --> 00:22:39,710
constantly evolving.

648
00:22:40,730 --> 00:22:42,494
And so that's the thing I think at

649
00:22:42,494 --> 00:22:44,335
some point we will need governance because that's

650
00:22:44,335 --> 00:22:46,515
what everyone's fearful of. Right? Even myself,

651
00:22:47,055 --> 00:22:48,734
AI is gonna take over my job. Right?

652
00:22:48,734 --> 00:22:49,714
It's just like when

653
00:22:50,095 --> 00:22:52,654
computers just came out. We we continue to

654
00:22:52,654 --> 00:22:54,434
evolve as humans, but

655
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,039
we will get to a point where we're

656
00:22:57,039 --> 00:22:57,539
almost

657
00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:01,619
creating our own demise, I'll I'll say.

658
00:23:02,159 --> 00:23:02,980
Right? Where

659
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:07,440
it scares me, and I'm with AI. I

660
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,700
love it, but it scares me too because

661
00:23:10,705 --> 00:23:12,785
I pretty much do the work I can

662
00:23:12,785 --> 00:23:14,305
do the work of three to four people

663
00:23:14,305 --> 00:23:15,285
on my own, but

664
00:23:15,825 --> 00:23:17,125
if you give me AI,

665
00:23:18,785 --> 00:23:21,345
it does make me feel superhuman almost. Like,

666
00:23:21,345 --> 00:23:22,085
I can do

667
00:23:23,265 --> 00:23:25,045
10 to 15 times faster

668
00:23:25,740 --> 00:23:27,420
because I know how to use it. I

669
00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:28,619
know how to go and ask it the

670
00:23:28,619 --> 00:23:30,779
right questions. Alright. Let me get this sort

671
00:23:30,779 --> 00:23:33,259
of wrapping my brain around it. Right now,

672
00:23:33,259 --> 00:23:33,759
AI

673
00:23:34,779 --> 00:23:37,819
is like a super coach that's teaching you

674
00:23:37,819 --> 00:23:39,599
how to do teaching humans

675
00:23:40,304 --> 00:23:42,944
how to do things and making whatever they

676
00:23:42,944 --> 00:23:43,444
know

677
00:23:43,904 --> 00:23:44,565
that much

678
00:23:45,184 --> 00:23:45,684
faster.

679
00:23:46,544 --> 00:23:49,264
But the only thing AI has is what

680
00:23:49,264 --> 00:23:52,384
it's fed to by humans, but we're gonna

681
00:23:52,384 --> 00:23:52,884
reach

682
00:23:53,585 --> 00:23:54,565
a point where

683
00:23:55,410 --> 00:23:55,910
it

684
00:23:56,450 --> 00:23:58,609
I'm gonna say this. So it's my understanding

685
00:23:58,609 --> 00:23:59,349
that AI

686
00:23:59,650 --> 00:24:01,590
everything AI is and does

687
00:24:01,970 --> 00:24:04,769
is based on everything that's already been done.

688
00:24:04,769 --> 00:24:07,890
It's not like they're creating new things. They

689
00:24:07,890 --> 00:24:08,630
can only

690
00:24:09,674 --> 00:24:12,894
evolve themselves based on what's already been created.

691
00:24:13,115 --> 00:24:13,615
Right?

692
00:24:14,315 --> 00:24:16,554
It depends, kind of, because it can it

693
00:24:16,554 --> 00:24:17,294
can forecast.

694
00:24:17,994 --> 00:24:19,835
Right? It depends on the data that it's

695
00:24:19,835 --> 00:24:20,335
given.

696
00:24:20,954 --> 00:24:23,434
So there's some I think and I might

697
00:24:23,434 --> 00:24:25,170
be wrong on this, and that's okay. But

698
00:24:25,650 --> 00:24:27,490
like, within an open AI, I think they're

699
00:24:27,490 --> 00:24:29,890
scraping the Internet. So that's a ton of

700
00:24:29,890 --> 00:24:30,390
information.

701
00:24:30,690 --> 00:24:32,049
It's a it's a it's a lot, you

702
00:24:32,049 --> 00:24:33,029
know. And

703
00:24:34,049 --> 00:24:34,950
within that,

704
00:24:37,090 --> 00:24:37,910
it can theoretically

705
00:24:38,769 --> 00:24:41,085
do things the same way we would.

706
00:24:41,644 --> 00:24:43,724
Because we only we only as humans, we

707
00:24:43,724 --> 00:24:45,244
only know what we know, but we have

708
00:24:45,244 --> 00:24:46,144
to have the ability

709
00:24:47,005 --> 00:24:48,765
to think forward too based off of what

710
00:24:48,765 --> 00:24:50,944
we know. Right? So to make up with

711
00:24:51,404 --> 00:24:52,224
that decision,

712
00:24:53,005 --> 00:24:55,244
it's gonna evolve especially when you put AI

713
00:24:55,244 --> 00:24:55,904
with quantum

714
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,119
with quantum computing. Explain that a little bit

715
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,839
what that means. Okay. So think of Pac

716
00:25:01,839 --> 00:25:04,720
Man. Right? Pac Man goes through the maze.

717
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:05,940
It goes just like

718
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:08,400
through the maze. It's trying you're trying to

719
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:09,759
get through there one at a time all

720
00:25:09,759 --> 00:25:11,519
through every decision and get to the end.

721
00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:12,019
Right?

722
00:25:12,855 --> 00:25:13,994
Now Ponson computing

723
00:25:14,934 --> 00:25:16,234
looks at every

724
00:25:16,615 --> 00:25:19,434
every possible way to solve that maze.

725
00:25:21,015 --> 00:25:21,515
So

726
00:25:22,694 --> 00:25:23,194
instantaneously,

727
00:25:24,829 --> 00:25:26,210
then it can come up with a solution.

728
00:25:26,509 --> 00:25:29,150
So it it it's completely different. Whereas all

729
00:25:29,150 --> 00:25:31,170
of the computers now are zeros and ones,

730
00:25:31,789 --> 00:25:33,549
quantum computing can be a zero and a

731
00:25:33,549 --> 00:25:35,630
one at the same time to solve the

732
00:25:35,630 --> 00:25:36,130
problem.

733
00:25:36,589 --> 00:25:40,045
So while AI is looking at something and

734
00:25:40,045 --> 00:25:41,825
seeing all the potential possibilities

735
00:25:42,205 --> 00:25:44,445
and working through the problems based on what

736
00:25:44,445 --> 00:25:46,625
humans have told it to think, quantum

737
00:25:48,045 --> 00:25:48,545
mechanics,

738
00:25:49,965 --> 00:25:51,424
it does that all instantaneously

739
00:25:52,205 --> 00:25:54,380
and maybe even the things that the AI

740
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:55,519
didn't think of?

741
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:57,819
Correct. It would be think of the quantum

742
00:25:57,819 --> 00:25:59,660
computing as like a new computer, and the

743
00:25:59,660 --> 00:26:00,940
AI is the brain. When you put the

744
00:26:00,940 --> 00:26:01,500
two together

745
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:02,799
We're screwed.

746
00:26:05,954 --> 00:26:08,994
I mean, what's what's quantum computing? There's, like,

747
00:26:08,994 --> 00:26:11,394
an arms race right now. Right? All these

748
00:26:11,394 --> 00:26:12,615
companies are quietly

749
00:26:13,474 --> 00:26:15,794
I mean, AI is phenomenal, but I'm, like,

750
00:26:15,794 --> 00:26:16,454
I'm more

751
00:26:16,835 --> 00:26:19,554
thinking about quantum computing because quantum computing is

752
00:26:20,299 --> 00:26:23,419
that's going to change everything. It will change

753
00:26:23,419 --> 00:26:24,240
our infrastructure.

754
00:26:24,779 --> 00:26:26,859
Like, we were talking about earlier with passcodes

755
00:26:26,859 --> 00:26:29,019
and everything, all that stuff breaks because it

756
00:26:29,019 --> 00:26:30,880
can come up with this solution. It's like

757
00:26:31,019 --> 00:26:33,144
the keys to the world almost. And it

758
00:26:33,144 --> 00:26:33,724
can predict

759
00:26:34,025 --> 00:26:35,805
better things that will happen

760
00:26:36,744 --> 00:26:38,744
because of it'll be able to go through

761
00:26:38,744 --> 00:26:41,805
every different every possibility. It's it's a statistician's,

762
00:26:42,105 --> 00:26:42,605
like,

763
00:26:43,384 --> 00:26:45,144
dream to have this when when when it

764
00:26:45,144 --> 00:26:47,384
actually is created. Like, there are times when

765
00:26:47,384 --> 00:26:49,080
I'm asked to predict

766
00:26:49,779 --> 00:26:52,100
business that's gonna happen, and if we get

767
00:26:52,100 --> 00:26:53,460
it, what's gonna happen, or if we're gonna

768
00:26:53,460 --> 00:26:54,820
lose it, when are we gonna lose it

769
00:26:54,820 --> 00:26:57,380
from a retail model that will take me

770
00:26:57,380 --> 00:26:59,460
weeks to do? The AI will be able

771
00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:01,539
to do it with quantum computing in in

772
00:27:01,539 --> 00:27:02,039
seconds.

773
00:27:02,804 --> 00:27:03,304
Wow.

774
00:27:03,605 --> 00:27:06,164
But that would almost make the stock mark

775
00:27:06,244 --> 00:27:09,144
make everybody an insider trader or something. Right?

776
00:27:09,444 --> 00:27:11,204
Theoretically, if you're gonna be a day trader,

777
00:27:11,204 --> 00:27:13,125
you could be able it it would like,

778
00:27:13,125 --> 00:27:16,004
the our entire infrastructure will will have to

779
00:27:16,004 --> 00:27:18,149
be changed. I mean, that's the thing where

780
00:27:18,149 --> 00:27:20,309
I think about where people I know have

781
00:27:20,309 --> 00:27:23,190
floated the idea of a universal paycheck. Every

782
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:23,690
human

783
00:27:24,309 --> 00:27:26,549
makes x y z amount of money, and

784
00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:28,409
then the computers run the world.

785
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:31,349
The problem is is greed. Right? It's not

786
00:27:31,349 --> 00:27:31,849
like

787
00:27:32,384 --> 00:27:35,045
the ultra rich, you're going to be contented

788
00:27:35,345 --> 00:27:35,845
with

789
00:27:36,384 --> 00:27:38,644
having their caste system taken away.

790
00:27:39,904 --> 00:27:42,305
Or there won't be that. It'll just be

791
00:27:43,025 --> 00:27:44,644
I don't know. I feel like

792
00:27:45,649 --> 00:27:47,089
this probably gonna get too deep, but I

793
00:27:47,089 --> 00:27:49,089
feel like this is almost like the end

794
00:27:49,089 --> 00:27:50,549
of days because

795
00:27:51,169 --> 00:27:54,210
once we get to one world society, one

796
00:27:54,210 --> 00:27:55,730
religion, one everything

797
00:27:56,130 --> 00:27:57,649
I just don't see that. I just feel

798
00:27:57,649 --> 00:27:58,869
like humans are kinda

799
00:27:59,174 --> 00:28:01,255
dicks. Like, do you really think we'll get

800
00:28:01,255 --> 00:28:02,634
to a point where we'll

801
00:28:03,015 --> 00:28:03,674
be one

802
00:28:04,134 --> 00:28:04,634
anything?

803
00:28:05,015 --> 00:28:05,095
It

804
00:28:06,055 --> 00:28:07,995
I mean, maybe, but even

805
00:28:08,695 --> 00:28:10,235
now we're in the throes of

806
00:28:10,775 --> 00:28:11,755
I feel like this

807
00:28:12,839 --> 00:28:14,919
epic do you ever read Stephen King, The

808
00:28:14,919 --> 00:28:15,419
Stand?

809
00:28:15,799 --> 00:28:18,839
Right. This epic good and evil kind of

810
00:28:18,839 --> 00:28:21,900
thing. If if evil were the greedy overlords

811
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,919
and the good, which the people literally just

812
00:28:24,919 --> 00:28:26,679
trying to put food on the table. We're

813
00:28:26,679 --> 00:28:27,339
not greedy.

814
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,045
I mean, I love I I love things

815
00:28:30,045 --> 00:28:31,744
that Elon Musk has created,

816
00:28:32,204 --> 00:28:33,644
but if you look at him just as

817
00:28:33,644 --> 00:28:34,304
one person,

818
00:28:35,244 --> 00:28:37,724
he is a multi billionaire and he worked

819
00:28:37,724 --> 00:28:39,164
his ass off to get there and I

820
00:28:39,164 --> 00:28:40,464
will give it to him.

821
00:28:40,765 --> 00:28:42,365
But why do you need that amount of

822
00:28:42,365 --> 00:28:42,865
money

823
00:28:43,399 --> 00:28:44,059
when there's

824
00:28:44,359 --> 00:28:45,880
so much going on in this world that

825
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:47,960
you could help? Oh, and why are you

826
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:49,960
trying to get to Mars when you could

827
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:50,700
turn around?

828
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,980
That's the other thing that makes me insane.

829
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,359
I'm not telling I'm not trying to tell

830
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,119
rich people or people who have earned all

831
00:28:58,119 --> 00:28:59,259
their money or whatever

832
00:28:59,855 --> 00:29:01,695
how to how to spend it or anything

833
00:29:01,695 --> 00:29:04,255
like that, but just let's just take Christ

834
00:29:04,255 --> 00:29:04,755
consciousness

835
00:29:05,055 --> 00:29:07,375
just for the sake of existing in a

836
00:29:07,375 --> 00:29:07,875
world

837
00:29:08,494 --> 00:29:11,215
with other people. How do you not look

838
00:29:11,215 --> 00:29:11,715
around,

839
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:14,200
have all that money,

840
00:29:14,580 --> 00:29:16,580
and know you could make a difference and

841
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:17,880
not do it?

842
00:29:18,180 --> 00:29:20,340
That's the thing that I'm saying. It's like,

843
00:29:20,340 --> 00:29:22,099
hey. I think I made that joke to

844
00:29:22,099 --> 00:29:23,480
you the other day. So,

845
00:29:23,940 --> 00:29:26,740
hey. I if it's programmed to to make

846
00:29:26,740 --> 00:29:27,559
sure humans

847
00:29:28,384 --> 00:29:30,144
do no harm, you know, that that that

848
00:29:30,144 --> 00:29:31,924
they don't harm humans. And then ultimately,

849
00:29:33,024 --> 00:29:35,825
what if they realize, oh, wait. The greatest

850
00:29:35,825 --> 00:29:37,204
threat to humanity is

851
00:29:38,544 --> 00:29:39,044
humans.

852
00:29:39,505 --> 00:29:42,944
Right. And just infinity stones everybody out of

853
00:29:42,944 --> 00:29:44,700
here. Right. I don't know. I

854
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:46,059
think it's

855
00:29:46,759 --> 00:29:48,279
I don't know. I struggle with that. Like,

856
00:29:48,279 --> 00:29:49,019
my friends,

857
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,000
they they tell me this all the time.

858
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:52,700
You're too nice. You're this. And I'm like,

859
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,000
I'm too nice, so I'm treating and loving

860
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,080
people how they're supposed to. Why is that

861
00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:57,980
a bad thing?

862
00:29:58,634 --> 00:30:00,974
And it's it's frowned upon, And it's

863
00:30:01,755 --> 00:30:03,615
so weird to me. Yeah.

864
00:30:04,474 --> 00:30:05,855
I don't know. Maybe weird.

865
00:30:06,154 --> 00:30:06,654
Weird.

866
00:30:07,835 --> 00:30:10,170
When I was driving around LA, I just

867
00:30:10,250 --> 00:30:12,009
because I don't go there often. I was

868
00:30:12,170 --> 00:30:14,350
I saw so much homelessness and I'm like,

869
00:30:14,730 --> 00:30:16,730
this is a movie. This is something This

870
00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:19,070
is seriously a scene from a movie.

871
00:30:19,690 --> 00:30:22,184
And there's so many wealthy people here. Do

872
00:30:22,265 --> 00:30:23,545
you mean to tell me you guys can't

873
00:30:23,545 --> 00:30:25,945
go buy buy land? Wants it in their

874
00:30:25,945 --> 00:30:26,845
yard. Nobody

875
00:30:27,705 --> 00:30:29,865
everybody wants something to be done about it,

876
00:30:29,865 --> 00:30:31,545
but nobody wants to do the thing that

877
00:30:31,545 --> 00:30:33,384
will take care of it. And when I'm

878
00:30:33,384 --> 00:30:35,144
out there in the world, I'm just like,

879
00:30:35,144 --> 00:30:35,644
okay.

880
00:30:36,589 --> 00:30:38,990
I'm putting on the Infinity Stones. Why can't

881
00:30:38,990 --> 00:30:40,750
I ever think of that guy's name that

882
00:30:40,750 --> 00:30:42,369
did that? Thanos. Thanos.

883
00:30:42,670 --> 00:30:45,070
Yeah. I'm ready to Thanos everybody. Yeah. I'm

884
00:30:45,070 --> 00:30:46,049
ready myself.

885
00:30:46,509 --> 00:30:48,670
I mean, I'll go too. You know? And

886
00:30:48,670 --> 00:30:51,794
then another day goes by, and and I'm

887
00:30:51,794 --> 00:30:53,174
okay again, but

888
00:30:53,634 --> 00:30:54,454
it it does

889
00:30:55,315 --> 00:30:57,315
I don't know. Now we're getting really, like,

890
00:30:57,315 --> 00:30:58,534
philosophical, but,

891
00:30:58,994 --> 00:31:01,394
hey, I could never have this conversation or

892
00:31:01,394 --> 00:31:03,634
maybe it could. You probably could. You probably

893
00:31:03,634 --> 00:31:04,454
could. Yeah.

894
00:31:05,394 --> 00:31:06,669
Actually, my friend,

895
00:31:07,049 --> 00:31:08,650
Rachel, who I adore, she and I talked

896
00:31:08,650 --> 00:31:11,470
today, and, you know, she she uses

897
00:31:12,089 --> 00:31:14,250
is a chat GBT. This is how woefully

898
00:31:14,250 --> 00:31:16,089
ignorant I am of all things AI because

899
00:31:16,089 --> 00:31:17,849
it freaks me out. And as a creative,

900
00:31:17,849 --> 00:31:19,789
I'm like, nope. Staying away from that.

901
00:31:20,169 --> 00:31:21,150
But she

902
00:31:21,815 --> 00:31:23,734
she'll get into a conversation with someone, and

903
00:31:23,734 --> 00:31:25,734
she's like, who's right? Who's wrong? And she'll

904
00:31:25,734 --> 00:31:27,494
read the text to the AI, and the

905
00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:29,914
AI will be like, you were right. That's

906
00:31:30,055 --> 00:31:30,555
like

907
00:31:31,815 --> 00:31:32,875
Oh my goodness.

908
00:31:33,255 --> 00:31:35,779
See. I could see it. Maybe it'll be

909
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:37,460
useful in arbitration

910
00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:38,419
or

911
00:31:38,799 --> 00:31:40,419
marriage counseling or

912
00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:42,099
I don't know.

913
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,119
I don't know. At first, when I first

914
00:31:45,119 --> 00:31:47,140
saw it, I'm like, okay. This is great.

915
00:31:48,015 --> 00:31:49,695
And I loved it. And then,

916
00:31:50,974 --> 00:31:52,275
my younger sister,

917
00:31:53,455 --> 00:31:56,195
who I love, my my younger sister, Kayla,

918
00:31:56,654 --> 00:31:57,154
I

919
00:31:58,255 --> 00:32:00,035
love her to death. And

920
00:32:00,815 --> 00:32:02,940
she's a graphic designer and she is

921
00:32:03,419 --> 00:32:06,619
absolutely talented. Like when she's ready, she will

922
00:32:06,619 --> 00:32:08,159
do it. She will produce

923
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:12,000
greatness on the level of Disney and Netflix

924
00:32:12,299 --> 00:32:12,799
and

925
00:32:13,259 --> 00:32:15,579
the she is so talented. You know, you

926
00:32:15,579 --> 00:32:17,595
never you see someone so talented, you're like,

927
00:32:17,755 --> 00:32:20,015
when they're ready, it's gonna happen. Right?

928
00:32:20,394 --> 00:32:22,095
And when I talk to her,

929
00:32:22,634 --> 00:32:24,075
and I could hear the pain in her

930
00:32:24,075 --> 00:32:25,534
voice because she's like,

931
00:32:26,394 --> 00:32:28,954
all of these studios are now just talking

932
00:32:28,954 --> 00:32:29,454
about

933
00:32:29,769 --> 00:32:31,769
we're going to just use AI and not

934
00:32:31,769 --> 00:32:34,329
use you. And my my sister is she's

935
00:32:34,329 --> 00:32:36,910
been drawing. I remember her winning competitions

936
00:32:37,690 --> 00:32:40,190
in the third grade against college artists.

937
00:32:41,369 --> 00:32:44,315
Draws to the point her hands hurt. Right?

938
00:32:44,534 --> 00:32:45,974
And I hear that in her voice, the

939
00:32:45,974 --> 00:32:47,674
pain and because this is her passion.

940
00:32:48,934 --> 00:32:51,434
And people are just I mean, they're they're

941
00:32:51,654 --> 00:32:54,214
they're taking it away. There is still value

942
00:32:54,214 --> 00:32:57,089
in the human element. There's still value in

943
00:32:57,169 --> 00:32:59,730
that creative side. These same conversations we're having

944
00:32:59,730 --> 00:33:01,329
right now, we have it, like, when we

945
00:33:01,329 --> 00:33:03,109
talk on the phone, and it's,

946
00:33:05,169 --> 00:33:07,349
it it it just shows me too, like,

947
00:33:09,650 --> 00:33:11,669
the impact that this is going to have

948
00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:15,545
for everyone. Not it's everybody. No one's safe.

949
00:33:16,245 --> 00:33:17,945
Do you think in the realm of creativity

950
00:33:18,325 --> 00:33:18,825
that

951
00:33:19,924 --> 00:33:23,465
for everything from poetry to music to art,

952
00:33:24,259 --> 00:33:26,039
and paint you know, paintings and

953
00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:27,799
movies and all of this,

954
00:33:28,180 --> 00:33:28,680
that

955
00:33:29,220 --> 00:33:29,960
the humans

956
00:33:31,619 --> 00:33:33,779
will be distrustful of that, that there'll be

957
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,539
some part of it that just doesn't feel

958
00:33:35,539 --> 00:33:37,059
right or say right, or do you think

959
00:33:37,059 --> 00:33:37,960
we are adapting?

960
00:33:38,894 --> 00:33:40,755
I I feel like we're already being trained

961
00:33:41,775 --> 00:33:44,174
by, you know, TikTok, these three second bytes

962
00:33:44,174 --> 00:33:46,434
or ten seconds or twenty seconds, and now

963
00:33:46,654 --> 00:33:48,815
there's a bunch of AI flooding TikTok, and

964
00:33:48,815 --> 00:33:50,595
it's all just sort of slowly

965
00:33:51,455 --> 00:33:53,875
getting us all conditioned into

966
00:33:54,549 --> 00:33:55,049
quick,

967
00:33:56,789 --> 00:33:58,730
doesn't doesn't go very deep,

968
00:33:59,269 --> 00:34:00,170
isn't realistic.

969
00:34:01,029 --> 00:34:02,230
Do you do you know what I'm saying?

970
00:34:02,230 --> 00:34:03,670
I know what you mean. No. No. You're

971
00:34:03,670 --> 00:34:05,589
right. And we we are being I think

972
00:34:05,589 --> 00:34:07,450
we're being conditioned, but we're also

973
00:34:08,704 --> 00:34:10,724
training our replacements too.

974
00:34:11,105 --> 00:34:11,605
Right?

975
00:34:12,144 --> 00:34:14,224
Like, I think we're being conditioned to get

976
00:34:14,224 --> 00:34:15,204
that instant

977
00:34:15,585 --> 00:34:17,764
gratification in thirty seconds and

978
00:34:18,065 --> 00:34:18,565
versus

979
00:34:18,945 --> 00:34:22,059
this. Right? This human interaction, this this,

980
00:34:22,539 --> 00:34:24,239
ability for us to have a conversation,

981
00:34:24,619 --> 00:34:27,179
most people can't do now. And the younger

982
00:34:27,179 --> 00:34:27,679
generation

983
00:34:28,219 --> 00:34:29,739
won't be able to do it. I was

984
00:34:29,739 --> 00:34:32,059
just at a seminar, and they were telling

985
00:34:32,059 --> 00:34:33,900
us that we are the last generation that

986
00:34:33,900 --> 00:34:35,440
will only manage just humans

987
00:34:36,295 --> 00:34:39,094
because they will have to manage humans and

988
00:34:39,094 --> 00:34:41,414
AI and robots. Right? I don't know. It's

989
00:34:41,414 --> 00:34:43,514
an interesting times that we're we're we're we're

990
00:34:43,894 --> 00:34:45,335
we're getting ready to go through that. And

991
00:34:45,335 --> 00:34:46,775
I don't think we're all ready for it

992
00:34:46,775 --> 00:34:48,695
all. I don't think we're ready either. I

993
00:34:48,775 --> 00:34:49,275
because

994
00:34:50,019 --> 00:34:51,619
I don't think we have a grasp on

995
00:34:51,619 --> 00:34:52,599
our own humanity

996
00:34:53,059 --> 00:34:56,099
yet. Right. And so here we are struggling

997
00:34:56,099 --> 00:34:58,180
to find our own humanity, and we're gonna

998
00:34:58,180 --> 00:34:58,680
introduce

999
00:34:58,980 --> 00:34:59,880
these nonhuman

1000
00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:03,155
things into our everyday life. What What will

1001
00:35:03,155 --> 00:35:04,295
that do to us?

1002
00:35:04,594 --> 00:35:07,315
Will that just send the depression spirals even

1003
00:35:07,315 --> 00:35:10,454
further down? Will will we rise the occasion

1004
00:35:10,514 --> 00:35:13,734
and evolve because that's what people do? Or

1005
00:35:14,594 --> 00:35:16,054
it's it's a real curious

1006
00:35:17,059 --> 00:35:19,159
it's real curious. There's a government organization

1007
00:35:19,460 --> 00:35:20,280
called DARPA.

1008
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:22,900
They are the ones who typically make all

1009
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:24,440
the technology we get,

1010
00:35:25,460 --> 00:35:27,460
but they've already had it. Like, the Internet's

1011
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:29,400
been around since the sixties or seventies.

1012
00:35:30,635 --> 00:35:32,554
Cell phones, all that stuff. But we just

1013
00:35:32,635 --> 00:35:33,934
now we're released

1014
00:35:34,554 --> 00:35:35,295
to society.

1015
00:35:35,594 --> 00:35:37,994
Or it's the military first. Yeah. Oh, oh,

1016
00:35:37,994 --> 00:35:38,494
absolutely.

1017
00:35:38,795 --> 00:35:40,554
Absolutely. They have, I mean, the best of

1018
00:35:40,554 --> 00:35:43,050
everything before we get it. And it's that's

1019
00:35:43,050 --> 00:35:45,550
DARPA's whole thing is just focused on creating

1020
00:35:45,690 --> 00:35:46,190
technology

1021
00:35:46,809 --> 00:35:48,489
that they I mean, it it changes the

1022
00:35:48,489 --> 00:35:48,989
world.

1023
00:35:49,449 --> 00:35:51,530
And they're they're always twenty years twenty years

1024
00:35:51,530 --> 00:35:52,750
in advance. Always.

1025
00:35:53,050 --> 00:35:54,410
That's why when I said to you, do

1026
00:35:54,410 --> 00:35:55,789
you think that there's already

1027
00:35:56,635 --> 00:35:59,835
AI human hybrid, whatever it is, or just

1028
00:35:59,835 --> 00:36:01,055
Android or something

1029
00:36:01,515 --> 00:36:03,375
that's already passing in society?

1030
00:36:03,755 --> 00:36:06,015
And you said probably and I said probably

1031
00:36:06,075 --> 00:36:09,215
because, of course, there is. It sounds ludicrous.

1032
00:36:09,890 --> 00:36:12,369
We've talked in our lifetime, you're talking about

1033
00:36:12,369 --> 00:36:13,430
we've went from

1034
00:36:14,530 --> 00:36:16,710
a banking system where there was bank tellers

1035
00:36:17,250 --> 00:36:17,750
to

1036
00:36:18,690 --> 00:36:19,190
now

1037
00:36:19,489 --> 00:36:21,590
there's no bank tellers. You can go self-service

1038
00:36:21,650 --> 00:36:23,510
yourself. You can go send money digitally.

1039
00:36:23,969 --> 00:36:26,425
Right? We're evolving too fast

1040
00:36:26,885 --> 00:36:29,304
even for our own good to where

1041
00:36:29,684 --> 00:36:31,925
it's gonna get scary to me in the

1042
00:36:31,925 --> 00:36:33,144
next ten years. Like,

1043
00:36:34,005 --> 00:36:35,525
I can't even think back. I mean, if

1044
00:36:35,525 --> 00:36:36,965
you think about it, ten years ago, there

1045
00:36:36,965 --> 00:36:38,585
was no AI. Right?

1046
00:36:39,530 --> 00:36:41,210
That we knew of. That we knew of.

1047
00:36:41,210 --> 00:36:43,389
Right? That we could publicly go and use.

1048
00:36:44,329 --> 00:36:45,309
Prior to that,

1049
00:36:46,889 --> 00:36:48,889
there was other technology. I mean, if you

1050
00:36:48,889 --> 00:36:49,690
look at even,

1051
00:36:50,329 --> 00:36:52,089
I'm gonna use Amazon because I I was

1052
00:36:52,089 --> 00:36:53,150
watching Jeff Bezos's

1053
00:36:53,449 --> 00:36:55,585
life story on YouTube the other night. I'm

1054
00:36:55,585 --> 00:36:57,025
watching this video of him in the nineties

1055
00:36:57,025 --> 00:36:59,445
with this big ass sign that says Amazon

1056
00:36:59,505 --> 00:37:00,224
plastered his

1057
00:37:00,785 --> 00:37:03,184
In his garage. Yeah. Yeah. And now, I

1058
00:37:03,184 --> 00:37:04,385
mean, look at you know what I mean?

1059
00:37:04,385 --> 00:37:06,304
Look at the evolution that fast. And if

1060
00:37:06,304 --> 00:37:08,465
you think about it, we're not talking two

1061
00:37:08,465 --> 00:37:09,364
hundred years.

1062
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:12,010
It's it's evolving almost too fast.

1063
00:37:12,710 --> 00:37:14,489
Right. It's a snake that eats itself.

1064
00:37:14,789 --> 00:37:17,429
Mhmm. Absolutely. Do you think humans are even

1065
00:37:17,429 --> 00:37:19,909
necessary? I think we are necessary. I think

1066
00:37:19,909 --> 00:37:21,289
we need to slow down.

1067
00:37:21,829 --> 00:37:25,130
The children's children, the few generations from now,

1068
00:37:26,445 --> 00:37:28,625
will humans and AI

1069
00:37:30,045 --> 00:37:31,425
be married? Will

1070
00:37:32,204 --> 00:37:33,425
will it be that

1071
00:37:33,805 --> 00:37:34,545
an AI,

1072
00:37:34,925 --> 00:37:35,425
ironically,

1073
00:37:36,045 --> 00:37:38,144
has more humanity than a human?

1074
00:37:40,059 --> 00:37:41,199
Damn. That's a good one.

1075
00:37:42,699 --> 00:37:43,199
Yeah?

1076
00:37:43,819 --> 00:37:45,739
Yeah. Well, I think people are already having

1077
00:37:45,900 --> 00:37:48,139
I don't know if it's considered parasocial, if

1078
00:37:48,139 --> 00:37:50,059
it's AI, but I think people are already

1079
00:37:50,059 --> 00:37:51,199
starting to develop.

1080
00:37:52,664 --> 00:37:55,085
That's how lonesome. We're so lonely.

1081
00:37:55,785 --> 00:37:56,285
Right.

1082
00:37:56,824 --> 00:37:57,625
9,000,000,000

1083
00:37:57,625 --> 00:38:00,184
people on the planet and everyone is just

1084
00:38:00,184 --> 00:38:00,684
terribly

1085
00:38:00,985 --> 00:38:01,485
lonely.

1086
00:38:02,105 --> 00:38:02,605
Mhmm.

1087
00:38:03,785 --> 00:38:05,385
The companionship, it's it's,

1088
00:38:07,789 --> 00:38:09,389
I don't know. I feel like sometimes social

1089
00:38:09,389 --> 00:38:10,909
media is the blame too because

1090
00:38:11,309 --> 00:38:13,230
That's a big part of it. We're never

1091
00:38:13,230 --> 00:38:14,989
happy with what we have. We're always seeking

1092
00:38:14,989 --> 00:38:16,050
more. We're never

1093
00:38:16,429 --> 00:38:18,030
content. I mean, you think about it. Back

1094
00:38:18,030 --> 00:38:19,789
in the day, you didn't you met someone

1095
00:38:19,789 --> 00:38:21,170
that was in your local town.

1096
00:38:21,469 --> 00:38:23,424
That's all you knew. You know, you didn't

1097
00:38:23,424 --> 00:38:25,264
get on social media and start looking at

1098
00:38:25,264 --> 00:38:26,625
all these other people. There were no dating

1099
00:38:26,625 --> 00:38:28,065
apps. There were there was nothing. It was

1100
00:38:28,065 --> 00:38:28,565
just

1101
00:38:29,105 --> 00:38:30,625
you you met someone. You might have met

1102
00:38:30,625 --> 00:38:32,545
them at the grocery store doing something social,

1103
00:38:32,545 --> 00:38:34,545
getting out of the house, and then you

1104
00:38:34,545 --> 00:38:37,204
build a relationship from there. Now it's just

1105
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,320
I don't like you. Cool. I'll replace you.

1106
00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:43,800
I'll go on a nap. Yeah. You said

1107
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,519
you didn't do, social media, but you used

1108
00:38:46,519 --> 00:38:48,860
to. Was that a hard transition to make?

1109
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,660
No.

1110
00:38:50,039 --> 00:38:52,784
Living living the life of, at the time,

1111
00:38:53,085 --> 00:38:55,485
lavish and partying all the time. I was,

1112
00:38:55,804 --> 00:38:57,405
I love to go out. I love good

1113
00:38:57,405 --> 00:38:58,945
food. I love to dance.

1114
00:38:59,965 --> 00:39:02,605
But what I found is that as I

1115
00:39:02,605 --> 00:39:04,045
did come into a little bit of money

1116
00:39:04,045 --> 00:39:06,625
at the time, how I was portraying myself

1117
00:39:07,059 --> 00:39:07,799
and showing everyone

1118
00:39:08,900 --> 00:39:11,219
the things that I was doing was not

1119
00:39:11,219 --> 00:39:13,059
necessarily a good thing. And I I would

1120
00:39:13,059 --> 00:39:14,819
get I would get the the energy I

1121
00:39:14,819 --> 00:39:16,679
could feel was not the most positive.

1122
00:39:17,139 --> 00:39:18,579
And a lot of it was my own

1123
00:39:18,579 --> 00:39:20,900
doing. It's not anybody else's because I chose

1124
00:39:20,900 --> 00:39:21,799
to allow that

1125
00:39:22,175 --> 00:39:24,014
side of myself to be seen. And it

1126
00:39:24,014 --> 00:39:26,195
just made me focus more on myself, like,

1127
00:39:26,974 --> 00:39:28,815
who am I trying to prove myself to?

1128
00:39:28,815 --> 00:39:31,234
Why am I showing everything that I do?

1129
00:39:31,295 --> 00:39:33,234
I'm not a social media influencer.

1130
00:39:33,695 --> 00:39:35,295
You know, I don't have these millions of

1131
00:39:35,295 --> 00:39:37,519
views. I I often joke when people ask

1132
00:39:37,519 --> 00:39:38,639
me because, you know, we were we were

1133
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:40,340
at the party talking, like, you have Instagram.

1134
00:39:40,639 --> 00:39:42,000
And I'm like, no. I have LinkedIn. Right?

1135
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:43,519
But, typically, I just tell people, like, no.

1136
00:39:43,519 --> 00:39:44,880
I have Myspace, and you can I made

1137
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,639
me laugh so much when you said that

1138
00:39:46,639 --> 00:39:48,239
though? I said, oh, are you on Instagram?

1139
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:50,000
You're like, no. I'm on LinkedIn. I was

1140
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,505
like, that's the nerdiest. That's the best thing

1141
00:39:52,505 --> 00:39:54,445
to say ever. It made me laugh.

1142
00:39:57,144 --> 00:39:58,744
It's the truth, though. I mean, I I

1143
00:39:58,744 --> 00:40:00,585
don't know. At some point, I will come

1144
00:40:00,585 --> 00:40:02,184
back. I I I've been saying it now

1145
00:40:02,184 --> 00:40:04,425
for almost five, six years. But But why?

1146
00:40:04,425 --> 00:40:06,700
I mean, what's the purpose of it, really?

1147
00:40:06,700 --> 00:40:08,780
I mean, I'm on there because I'm trying

1148
00:40:08,780 --> 00:40:10,940
to promote, like, the movie or, you know,

1149
00:40:10,940 --> 00:40:12,619
if I paint a picture or something like

1150
00:40:12,619 --> 00:40:14,140
that. But I don't put a lot of

1151
00:40:14,140 --> 00:40:16,720
my own personal stuff on there just because

1152
00:40:17,019 --> 00:40:18,880
I have to have something that's mine.

1153
00:40:19,875 --> 00:40:21,875
I I completely agree with that. I think

1154
00:40:21,875 --> 00:40:23,735
the one thing I do miss

1155
00:40:24,675 --> 00:40:26,614
is seeing family and friends

1156
00:40:26,914 --> 00:40:27,414
from

1157
00:40:28,035 --> 00:40:29,954
back home or people that I haven't talked

1158
00:40:29,954 --> 00:40:30,855
to in a while.

1159
00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:33,170
It was a good way to keep those

1160
00:40:33,170 --> 00:40:35,730
those doors open. You have a company that

1161
00:40:35,730 --> 00:40:36,609
you help people

1162
00:40:37,409 --> 00:40:40,789
I do. Build their companies. Is that correct?

1163
00:40:40,849 --> 00:40:42,769
That's right. So the name of my company

1164
00:40:42,769 --> 00:40:43,969
is called Created Within,

1165
00:40:44,864 --> 00:40:46,625
and it's on the premise of the idea

1166
00:40:46,625 --> 00:40:49,025
that the reality that we live with we

1167
00:40:49,025 --> 00:40:50,545
live in today was an idea that was

1168
00:40:50,545 --> 00:40:51,364
created within.

1169
00:40:51,824 --> 00:40:54,385
So it doesn't matter what your business is

1170
00:40:54,385 --> 00:40:54,885
or

1171
00:40:55,184 --> 00:40:56,820
what type of models you do. I help

1172
00:40:57,300 --> 00:40:59,079
multiple small business owners.

1173
00:41:00,099 --> 00:41:02,119
I've helped bigger companies, you name it,

1174
00:41:03,140 --> 00:41:05,460
make their ideas come become reality. Right? So

1175
00:41:05,460 --> 00:41:06,980
you as yourself could say, hey, Chad. I

1176
00:41:06,980 --> 00:41:09,059
wanna do a movie, and I wanna do

1177
00:41:09,059 --> 00:41:10,980
x, y, and z technology wise. Can you

1178
00:41:10,980 --> 00:41:13,204
help me? And I would go in, do

1179
00:41:13,204 --> 00:41:14,805
an assessment of what's going on and how

1180
00:41:14,805 --> 00:41:16,244
I can help you. And if I'm not

1181
00:41:16,244 --> 00:41:17,925
the right person, I I probably have someone

1182
00:41:17,925 --> 00:41:19,844
in my network that can help you and

1183
00:41:19,844 --> 00:41:20,505
then just

1184
00:41:20,885 --> 00:41:23,364
make it reality. K. And your website for

1185
00:41:23,364 --> 00:41:23,864
the

1186
00:41:24,179 --> 00:41:24,920
for your business?

1187
00:41:25,219 --> 00:41:31,079
Yes. It's created within. So, createdwithin.com.

1188
00:41:31,139 --> 00:41:32,339
I saw it when we were at the

1189
00:41:32,339 --> 00:41:34,819
party. You were talking to that guy that,

1190
00:41:35,219 --> 00:41:37,815
was trying to expand his business.

1191
00:41:38,275 --> 00:41:40,454
I think that is the issue, right, that

1192
00:41:40,835 --> 00:41:41,335
we're

1193
00:41:42,114 --> 00:41:44,195
we get caught in between the, oh, I

1194
00:41:44,195 --> 00:41:46,515
don't really wanna promote myself because that feels

1195
00:41:46,515 --> 00:41:47,015
gross,

1196
00:41:47,394 --> 00:41:48,614
but having to promote

1197
00:41:49,070 --> 00:41:51,570
yourself because that's how you grow your business,

1198
00:41:52,590 --> 00:41:55,409
and it's tricky. Right? It's how do you

1199
00:41:55,550 --> 00:41:57,710
navigate that stuff? That's where you come in,

1200
00:41:57,710 --> 00:41:59,230
I suppose, where you say, I can do

1201
00:41:59,230 --> 00:42:00,429
it for you. You don't have to feel

1202
00:42:00,429 --> 00:42:00,929
gross.

1203
00:42:01,875 --> 00:42:03,715
Yeah. I mean, I I I genuinely will

1204
00:42:03,715 --> 00:42:04,454
help. It's

1205
00:42:04,994 --> 00:42:06,994
I've not done a ton of marketing at

1206
00:42:06,994 --> 00:42:09,795
all. It's been a % organic. It's been

1207
00:42:09,795 --> 00:42:11,315
a % like, when you and I were

1208
00:42:11,315 --> 00:42:12,355
talking, you're like, well, how do you grow

1209
00:42:12,355 --> 00:42:14,114
your business? And then this guy literally walks

1210
00:42:14,114 --> 00:42:15,599
up. He does,

1211
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,260
one of the verticals I do within transportation,

1212
00:42:19,199 --> 00:42:21,519
and I'm like, this is exactly what happens

1213
00:42:21,519 --> 00:42:23,539
to me. I I can't make this up.

1214
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,559
I've had clients that referred me to other

1215
00:42:26,559 --> 00:42:27,059
clients,

1216
00:42:27,679 --> 00:42:30,339
but my whole core business model is helping.

1217
00:42:30,855 --> 00:42:33,094
I'm not here to, you know, take advantage

1218
00:42:33,094 --> 00:42:34,454
of anyone. If anything, I'm trying to make

1219
00:42:34,454 --> 00:42:36,554
sure that you're not being taken advantage of

1220
00:42:36,695 --> 00:42:38,295
in some of the decisions that you're making

1221
00:42:38,295 --> 00:42:40,295
in your business. I know there have been

1222
00:42:40,295 --> 00:42:42,954
things that I've went through in my entrepreneurship

1223
00:42:43,255 --> 00:42:45,710
that I wish I had some help or

1224
00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:47,150
at least a network to be able to

1225
00:42:47,150 --> 00:42:47,809
talk to.

1226
00:42:48,109 --> 00:42:49,630
And so even if I don't, like I

1227
00:42:49,630 --> 00:42:50,750
said, if I don't have the answers, I'm

1228
00:42:50,750 --> 00:42:52,690
still gonna put you in the right

1229
00:42:53,869 --> 00:42:55,710
circle of people that might be able to

1230
00:42:55,710 --> 00:42:58,125
know someone who can help. Because sometimes you

1231
00:42:58,125 --> 00:42:59,644
just want to know somebody that's been through

1232
00:42:59,644 --> 00:43:01,085
it and be able to talk to them

1233
00:43:01,085 --> 00:43:01,585
and

1234
00:43:01,965 --> 00:43:03,744
not say, okay, this person is just

1235
00:43:04,284 --> 00:43:05,684
not in it to just make money off

1236
00:43:05,684 --> 00:43:07,324
of me. He's truly trying to help me.

1237
00:43:07,324 --> 00:43:09,164
Do you go back to your old neighborhood

1238
00:43:09,164 --> 00:43:12,440
or your community and, and, and see

1239
00:43:12,739 --> 00:43:13,480
young people

1240
00:43:14,099 --> 00:43:16,260
like yourself and, and. I need you to

1241
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:17,780
be better about that back home. I, at

1242
00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:19,059
one point in time I was doing a

1243
00:43:19,059 --> 00:43:21,699
ton of at risk youth programs. I am

1244
00:43:21,699 --> 00:43:23,859
a part of an organization now. I just

1245
00:43:23,859 --> 00:43:26,339
joined their board where it's focused on financial

1246
00:43:26,339 --> 00:43:26,839
literacy

1247
00:43:27,380 --> 00:43:28,795
and and helping the youth back home. So

1248
00:43:28,795 --> 00:43:31,515
that is actually established for back home. When

1249
00:43:31,515 --> 00:43:33,375
I leave this earth at some point,

1250
00:43:33,994 --> 00:43:35,135
I will leave here.

1251
00:43:35,914 --> 00:43:36,974
Things will be better.

1252
00:43:38,315 --> 00:43:40,655
That's my my my personal goal is to

1253
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:43,860
leave whether it's for my family, whoever right

1254
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:45,920
leave it better than what I had in

1255
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,519
some way or shape right. You know, not

1256
00:43:47,519 --> 00:43:49,140
not just talking money either like

1257
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:50,900
leave it better

1258
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:52,960
and if you come with that, that's my

1259
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,219
mindset. It's just and I mean

1260
00:43:55,655 --> 00:43:57,014
I work my ass off to do it

1261
00:43:57,014 --> 00:43:59,175
every day. You know, there's days I'm tired

1262
00:43:59,175 --> 00:44:01,734
and you you get up. You don't have

1263
00:44:01,734 --> 00:44:03,255
to have the motivation. You have to have

1264
00:44:03,255 --> 00:44:03,914
the discipline.

1265
00:44:04,775 --> 00:44:06,635
Oh, that's good. I like that.

1266
00:44:07,255 --> 00:44:08,074
Every day.

1267
00:44:08,989 --> 00:44:09,489
So

1268
00:44:10,190 --> 00:44:12,609
on your deathbed, would you have your consciousness

1269
00:44:12,909 --> 00:44:15,089
transferred into an AI? Absolutely.

1270
00:44:15,469 --> 00:44:16,289
Sure will.

1271
00:44:18,670 --> 00:44:20,589
If if they can change my body for

1272
00:44:20,589 --> 00:44:23,329
consciousness to, like, someone that's, like, six, seven,

1273
00:44:23,684 --> 00:44:25,864
I can at least pursue my basketball

1274
00:44:26,565 --> 00:44:28,164
side at least for a little while longer

1275
00:44:28,164 --> 00:44:29,445
taller to see if I was gonna make

1276
00:44:29,445 --> 00:44:29,945
it.

1277
00:44:30,324 --> 00:44:32,005
No. I I think You know how bad

1278
00:44:32,005 --> 00:44:33,605
your needs would be in, like, ten years.

1279
00:44:33,605 --> 00:44:35,704
So Oh my god. You you saved yourself

1280
00:44:35,765 --> 00:44:37,730
from that. See, but that's what we're gonna

1281
00:44:37,730 --> 00:44:39,730
have the AI. It's gonna create this whole

1282
00:44:39,730 --> 00:44:41,989
medical thing to to cure all diseases.

1283
00:44:43,010 --> 00:44:44,789
I do look forward to actually,

1284
00:44:45,489 --> 00:44:47,510
the the the way that doctors

1285
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:48,309
can

1286
00:44:48,769 --> 00:44:49,269
disregard

1287
00:44:50,614 --> 00:44:53,335
their patients is it's a real problem. And

1288
00:44:53,335 --> 00:44:54,635
so I I think

1289
00:44:55,815 --> 00:44:57,574
I mean, it's such a catch 22. Right?

1290
00:44:57,574 --> 00:44:59,914
I don't want AI to take over humans'

1291
00:44:59,974 --> 00:45:02,234
jobs. I think that's a terrible thing.

1292
00:45:02,859 --> 00:45:04,159
But at the same time,

1293
00:45:04,619 --> 00:45:07,179
if an AI actually listens to me when

1294
00:45:07,179 --> 00:45:09,260
I say, hey. This is something that's going

1295
00:45:09,260 --> 00:45:11,260
on with me and doesn't just dismiss me

1296
00:45:11,260 --> 00:45:13,659
as being hysterical or doesn't know what I'm

1297
00:45:13,659 --> 00:45:14,880
talking about or whatever,

1298
00:45:15,260 --> 00:45:16,875
then why wouldn't I want that?

1299
00:45:17,195 --> 00:45:19,695
We humans, we just have to do better.

1300
00:45:20,394 --> 00:45:22,554
We we have to do better, and we

1301
00:45:23,034 --> 00:45:24,554
I think right now, we're in the sweet

1302
00:45:24,554 --> 00:45:26,315
spot of AI. We're not in the spot

1303
00:45:26,315 --> 00:45:28,255
of AI where it's gonna take our jobs.

1304
00:45:28,315 --> 00:45:30,074
We're in the spot where it'll make you

1305
00:45:30,074 --> 00:45:30,574
superhuman.

1306
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,440
It'll make you if you're the if you're

1307
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:34,579
the graphic designer,

1308
00:45:35,039 --> 00:45:37,359
you know the right lingo to use, and

1309
00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:39,679
I don't know at all. Right? You it

1310
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:40,659
will make you

1311
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:42,820
this next level

1312
00:45:43,199 --> 00:45:43,699
talent

1313
00:45:44,005 --> 00:45:45,844
if you use it the right way, because

1314
00:45:45,844 --> 00:45:47,204
you know the right things to say. It's

1315
00:45:47,204 --> 00:45:48,965
the same thing as a doctor. Right? My

1316
00:45:48,965 --> 00:45:51,045
girlfriend actually works in the healthcare industry, and

1317
00:45:51,045 --> 00:45:52,965
we're always talking about AI and how it's

1318
00:45:52,965 --> 00:45:54,105
impacting the hospitals.

1319
00:45:54,644 --> 00:45:55,304
And so

1320
00:45:55,764 --> 00:45:58,089
that's something I'm looking forward to. Like, are

1321
00:45:58,089 --> 00:46:00,409
you gonna be able to cure cancer? Are

1322
00:46:00,409 --> 00:46:02,730
we gonna be able to drug detection? Correct.

1323
00:46:02,730 --> 00:46:04,250
Like, there's all these things that I'm like,

1324
00:46:04,250 --> 00:46:04,750
alrighty.

1325
00:46:05,369 --> 00:46:06,589
There's something here

1326
00:46:07,050 --> 00:46:09,050
that Then we get to live longer on

1327
00:46:09,050 --> 00:46:11,069
a planet that doesn't give a shit about.

1328
00:46:13,214 --> 00:46:14,674
No. Is that catch 22?

1329
00:46:15,054 --> 00:46:17,635
Yeah. It is. It's a fascinating topic.

1330
00:46:18,174 --> 00:46:18,674
Mhmm.

1331
00:46:19,295 --> 00:46:20,994
It really is. Yeah.

1332
00:46:21,694 --> 00:46:23,554
I mean, let's be honest.

1333
00:46:23,934 --> 00:46:24,755
The the military

1334
00:46:25,135 --> 00:46:28,400
is really where all the the AI race,

1335
00:46:28,859 --> 00:46:31,019
I feel like it's all about well, it's

1336
00:46:31,019 --> 00:46:33,199
probably data mining, but it's all about

1337
00:46:33,819 --> 00:46:35,739
military. So I mean, I have a writer's

1338
00:46:35,739 --> 00:46:37,339
mind. Right? So I come up with all

1339
00:46:37,339 --> 00:46:38,800
sorts of wild and wooly

1340
00:46:39,255 --> 00:46:39,755
scenarios.

1341
00:46:40,454 --> 00:46:42,214
No. I've thought of the same thing, like,

1342
00:46:42,614 --> 00:46:44,714
weapons DNA targeted weapons.

1343
00:46:45,094 --> 00:46:45,594
Yes.

1344
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So being able to

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target someone specifically based off their DNA.

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00:46:51,260 --> 00:46:53,260
When they said when I read that, the

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'23 and me, which I did, '23 and

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me, and it was fascinating.

1349
00:46:56,539 --> 00:46:58,300
But then I saw that it got hacked,

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and now

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00:46:59,420 --> 00:47:02,219
some somebody somewhere in some place in the

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00:47:02,219 --> 00:47:05,579
in the world has everyone's genome sequence. And

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00:47:05,579 --> 00:47:07,744
I thought I thought to myself, let's see.

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Now how could I use that as a

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00:47:09,724 --> 00:47:12,304
biological weapon? I could literally sit,

1356
00:47:12,844 --> 00:47:16,844
take this very specific DNA code that's just

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for me

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00:47:18,389 --> 00:47:21,029
and go bleep bleep bleep, you know, create

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00:47:21,029 --> 00:47:24,170
a virus that's just for my specific DNA

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00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:27,529
strand or, you know, my genome or my,

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00:47:27,670 --> 00:47:29,849
you know, because everybody's got their own individual.

1362
00:47:30,764 --> 00:47:31,984
Type up this little

1363
00:47:32,284 --> 00:47:34,844
thing, make a little icky, send the icky

1364
00:47:34,844 --> 00:47:37,005
out into the world. Eventually, it will find

1365
00:47:37,005 --> 00:47:39,724
me, and I'll drop dead, and none will

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00:47:39,724 --> 00:47:41,565
be the wiser. And then I thought, is

1367
00:47:41,565 --> 00:47:42,304
that insane?

1368
00:47:42,605 --> 00:47:44,784
And then I I don't think it's crazy.

1369
00:47:45,190 --> 00:47:47,110
It's not. It's real. I think it's it

1370
00:47:47,110 --> 00:47:48,730
can definitely be happening. Like,

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it's not a coincidence

1372
00:47:50,789 --> 00:47:51,690
that that

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00:47:52,230 --> 00:47:54,630
that that got hacked. Like, I so random.

1374
00:47:54,630 --> 00:47:55,750
I was in a store. They had told

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00:47:55,750 --> 00:47:57,750
me they're like, this is gonna start happening.

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00:47:57,750 --> 00:47:59,829
Do not ever do anything as far as

1377
00:47:59,829 --> 00:48:02,375
these programs that are coming out. And, like,

1378
00:48:02,375 --> 00:48:03,735
why is this guy telling me this? I

1379
00:48:03,735 --> 00:48:04,855
think I was in the middle of a

1380
00:48:04,855 --> 00:48:05,914
freaking Best Buy,

1381
00:48:06,454 --> 00:48:06,954
and

1382
00:48:07,655 --> 00:48:09,835
I'll be sure as hell the next, like,

1383
00:48:10,614 --> 00:48:12,954
time, like, years and months went by,

1384
00:48:13,460 --> 00:48:15,139
'23 and me is a thing. Like, all

1385
00:48:15,139 --> 00:48:15,880
these different

1386
00:48:16,420 --> 00:48:18,500
genetics, and I'm just like It was from

1387
00:48:18,500 --> 00:48:19,559
the future, probably.

1388
00:48:19,940 --> 00:48:22,500
Right. I'm like, within Best Buy, of all

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00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:24,420
places. How would you know, though? If you're

1390
00:48:24,420 --> 00:48:26,099
from the future, I'm like, I'll go to

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00:48:26,099 --> 00:48:28,599
Best Buy. Sorry. You won't believe me.

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Chad, thank you so much for being on

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the show. I really appreciate it. Absolutely.

1394
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Anytime. I appreciate you. This was fun. It

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was fun. Thank you for listening, everybody.

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Bye.

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Bye. Bye.

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