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Hey, humans. How's it going? Susan Ruth here.

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Thanks for listening to another episode of Hey,

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Human podcast.

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This is episode 454,

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and my guest is doctor Maria Michael.

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She's a Lakota Dene traditional elder and healer.

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For over forty years, doctor Michael has been

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respected as a medical intuitive channel, empath, healer,

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psychic, and teacher,

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and has earned five advanced degrees.

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She has worked alongside

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and for many spiritual leaders in many traditions.

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She's

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especially respected for her ability to create sacred

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spaces for people of all races, cultures,

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gender, and religious beliefs.

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I met her through my friends, Marybeth and

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Philip, and I adore them. And I

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knew that I would adore doctor Michael. She's

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been very helpful

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with me in keeping me calm before a

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particular surgical procedure I had to

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do earlier in the year. And

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so that was really lovely of her having

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not ever even met me. We had a

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and got to know each other a little

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bit, and

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she's just she's a very calming,

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presence. I know that seems like an opposite

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thing,

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but you'll understand when you hear her speaking.

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Fest, and that's really exciting.

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Here we go.

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Doctor Maria Michael, welcome to Hey Human.

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Hi. Nice to see you again.

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Great to see you as well. I know

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that others can't see you, but you look

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incredibly beautiful. You're wearing a prayer shawl, and

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you've got these gorgeous

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beads, turquoise, and I can't tell what's going.

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And I'm wearing a Dene scarf.

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This is the same scarf that brought in

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World War two

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Ukrainians

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and the Dene people together

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in the trenches, and so we wear this

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in their honor.

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There's been a

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whole cross referencing between that side of the

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world and our world,

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between the code talkers and the

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and the Dene fighters

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in World War two. And so we consider

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them our relatives. We've been supporting them through

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this fight. The Dene and the Ukrainians came

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together to help fight in World War two.

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Mhmm. Well, they met in the trenches, and

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I actually have a story in our own

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family.

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there was a Polish man

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a Dine man, and they fought together there.

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they both made it out, they would name

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their firstborn

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a name from the other traditions. So there's

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a Polish man out there with

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a Dene name, and there's a Dene man

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in our family that has a Polish name.

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So it's it became that much of a

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because for Dene, it's all about

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the circle of life.

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Right? It's all about not only for Dine

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and Lakota, but in the in the reservation

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and indigenous world,

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it's that we're all connected. We're all related.

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And so there's a real crossing.

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And so we honor them. And, in fact,

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we did a prayer when the Ukrainian war

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broke out at a Ukrainian church.

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English, an

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in Ukrainian, and we brought these scars from

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the reservation, and we honored two of the

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grandmas

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love it. And took them in.

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Would you be considered grandmother?

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Yes. According

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according to my license, it says yes.

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But, yes, we're considered a grandma at Standing

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Rock. They used to call us grandma

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doing the activist work at Standing Rock. So,

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yeah, we're considered a grandma.

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You have several degrees.

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Five degrees and half of a second PhD.

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We have a first PhD and then half

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of a second.

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The spirits rudely interrupted and stopped us.

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I want to say before we continue on

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too far that it might throw people a

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little bit. You refer

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to yourself in the we and us. Can

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you explain that a little bit before we

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continue?

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Sure. That's really a great catch because we

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forget that we do that because it's so

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automatic.

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we believe that we are related

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to every living thing and every living being.

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and the ego

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separates us

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from not only our own helpers

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and not only our own

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relatives,

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the living beings, the standstill nation, you call

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them the trees,

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from grandmother Earth, from sacred

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the water of life.

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us, and all,

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it encompasses

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all that exists galactically,

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and all the four leggeds and the two

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leggeds, all the creepy crawlers with and without

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water, all the winged ones,

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all the four leggeds, all the elements of

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air and light. It helps us to remember

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creation and that we are part of that

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circle of life.

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asking us to explain that because

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it's so automatic to us, and people wonder

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how many of us are coming when it's

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one little grandma. But

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trees being the standstill nation. I've

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grew up with a deep adoration of trees

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and admiration.

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to trees. I hug trees. I love trees.

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Us too. That is

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absolutely perfect because they feel like people to

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me.

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Well and we are fashioned after them. If

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you think about it, we take nourishment from

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the earth. They take nourishment from the earth,

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and then they

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use their

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their gifts to change that

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feeding from the earth into an elixir in

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their bodies.

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Some of them create sap. Some of them

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create maple.

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Depending on each tree is different. Right? And

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so in that way, they take that

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that nurturance and that that blessing from grandmother

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Earth, and then they put it out through

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their limbs

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to the world

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to help create the oxygen to feed us.

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them, hopefully, we are using our our hands,

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our right hand to

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to give out and our left hand to

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receive.

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I thought maybe it might be helpful to

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start with a prayer. They just the spirits

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just said that that would be

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something that might be helpful. Is that something

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you would like? I'd love that. Grandfathers,

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grandmother earth,

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sacred sacred

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water of life.

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We ask all those that swim in the

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water.

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We ask all the creepy crawlers with and

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without legs to join us. We ask all

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the winged ones to join us, all the

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standstill nation,

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all the Tonka'ayate,

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the stone nation, or the Petawaka,

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the sacred fire that burns within each of

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us and on all the altars around the

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two leggeds to come together in peace so

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you may guide us and help us to

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find a way

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in this world

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to live without war

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so that we,

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as two leggeds who have been slow learners,

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because we've not learned how to evolve without

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it.

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Help us to change this paradigm from one

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of prayer and greed

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to one of peace and prayer and love.

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It is through that place

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that we have the chance to really recreate

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the way grandmother Earth is treated,

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the way we treat each other,

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and the way we begin to understand that

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we're one sacred family of all living beings.

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Help us to learn to extend our right

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hand to give to those who are less

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fortunate.

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Help us to learn,

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stand on our left, Creator,

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and help us learn to receive

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so that we can walk in balance.

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And on the days where we are clear

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in our path

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and we know the path that we need

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to walk, we ask that you stand behind

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us

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and give us the strength to take that

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path because it's not always an easy path.

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And as you see the dreams that we

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hope and pray for, we ask that you

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be the wind beneath our wings so that

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our dreams can take flight.

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when we are tired and we are lost

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and we are confused and we seem disconnected

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from creation, whether it be by technology, whether

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it be by whatever is distracting us, by

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whatever is happening in the world, we ask

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that you stand before us

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and help us

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follow you

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for as long as is needed

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until we have clarity of vision,

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clarity in our hearts

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so that we can find a path and

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take the right path,

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the one that is in right relationship to

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all living beings,

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and walk that

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without you. And on the days when we

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are so weak and so

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worn out,

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We ask that you lift us up and

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carry us for as long as is needed,

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and we ask that you fill our fountain

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up with the sacred Minni Wiconi, that sacred

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water of life,

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until we are completely full.

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And when we can completely rest in your

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arms, creation Wakatanka,

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great mystery,

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when we are full

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and you feel we are ready

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to get back

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to the earth,

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We ask you to gently place our feet

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on the back of grandmother Earth and let

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the people come to drink

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that sacred

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so that they can have the strength and

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the love

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that you want for them

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and that you can use us in that

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way, each and every one of us. And

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let us also remember to hold back some

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sacred for

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ourselves

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because many of us are very good at

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giving, but we forget to take care of

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ourselves. And without doing that, we cannot keep

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helping.

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So we thank you, Tonka Shela Unxi,

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for asking us to do this prayer

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because we had invoked already speaking about the

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standstill nation and all these living beings,

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and they wanted they wanted to be included

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so that they could help us,

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help all of us two leggeds, help everyone,

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help every living being so we can become

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one sacred family.

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We are all related.

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Uh-huh.

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Beautiful. Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Let let's go back

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to the beginning of

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whatever you stories you wanna tell, I'm curious

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about what life was like growing up for

334
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you,

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with your gifts

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and

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your connection to your people and the to

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the world at large.

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The gifts came to us very early. We

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had a lot of visions

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of us

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with a knife in our mouth and

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being underwater and watching

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watching our relatives being killed. So we had

345
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a lot of memories of our previous lifetimes.

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But the gifts came, and they actually terrified

347
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us because we would see things

348
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in people, and then they would get sick.

349
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Or we would know things were gonna happen

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in the world, and then they would happen.

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And we,

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with our lack of knowledge and lack of

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understanding, we were not grown,

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raised by people in the indigenous way and

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world.

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So it was frightening because we actually thought

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we were creating these things. And it took

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us a long time

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to begin to understand that we were being

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communicated with. We knew it. We could hear

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things. We heard beings say things. We saw

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things. We had visions.

363
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But

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being raised by people who are non indigenous

365
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was confusing

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because we didn't really have people to speak

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to about that.

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We had one grandmother

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who was not of this tradition, but she

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had the gifts of prophecy and would dream

371
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about things that would happen. And so that

372
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gave us a small opening to begin to

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talk about those things.

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But, as she said, we needed to keep

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those things quiet.

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And so it wasn't

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that easy. And for a long time, we

378
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ran from the gifts because

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they were so powerful, and it was so

380
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strong. And we felt

381
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what we were being asked on some level

382
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to do

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was too much responsibility.

384
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So

385
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we started off

386
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trying to help people doing things like

387
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just helping people on the side. We we

388
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were draft counselor during the Vietnam War,

389
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and that's when we,

390
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cut out of school,

391
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out of high school, and we're busy

392
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going to different places in cars with people

393
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we didn't know and trying to help that

394
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way

395
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to stop people from

396
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being drafted. And

397
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it's also where we learned a lot about

398
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money and this country and

399
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who got to go to the war and

400
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who didn't. So the people who could pay

401
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for four Fs or have their papers

402
00:15:07,795 --> 00:15:08,855
disappeared or

403
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psychiatrists write letters and had the money to

404
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do that,

405
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they got out, and we got our math

406
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teacher out, actually, as well.

407
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We realized that a lot of the brown

408
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and black people

409
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were the people that were going out to

410
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the wars,

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and it gave us a real understanding about

412
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the government and the paradigm of power and

413
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greed from a very young age.

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But it also showed us something

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that we also thought in many ways was

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a blessing because for us to see that

417
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at such a young age, to see that

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disparagement and the caste system that was built

419
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into this

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this Western world.

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And we got to see women, and we

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we approached them actually and asked them what

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places they came from for draft counseling.

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And they looked at us as if we

425
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were

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insane.

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And they said, no. We're not here for

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draft counseling. We're here to go to college.

429
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And the way we were raised, girls didn't

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go to college. That was not a place

431
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for a a girl. Education was not

432
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and so we decided,

433
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ah,

434
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that's something that we wanna do. We are

435
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capable of that.

436
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When we were young, we were told

437
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to be quiet and be barefoot and pregnant.

438
00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:26,159
That was

439
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that was our purpose.

440
00:16:29,404 --> 00:16:31,485
So we're dating going all the way back.

441
00:16:31,485 --> 00:16:34,365
We're a pretty old grandma. Those things were

442
00:16:34,365 --> 00:16:35,825
said back then, but,

443
00:16:36,605 --> 00:16:39,485
not said anymore. And and the spirits tried

444
00:16:39,485 --> 00:16:41,184
to redirect us several times

445
00:16:41,565 --> 00:16:42,784
as we went through school

446
00:16:44,299 --> 00:16:46,320
and we'd have accidents and

447
00:16:46,940 --> 00:16:48,159
we became a hemiplegic.

448
00:16:48,620 --> 00:16:50,240
We've had a lot of series

449
00:16:51,500 --> 00:16:53,839
of unbelievable accidents in cars,

450
00:16:54,299 --> 00:16:56,159
all none caused by us, but

451
00:16:56,774 --> 00:16:59,174
nonetheless our body absorbed the accident, and it's

452
00:16:59,174 --> 00:17:01,095
not an accident which part of your body

453
00:17:01,095 --> 00:17:02,315
absorbs the accident.

454
00:17:02,934 --> 00:17:03,754
Everything is

455
00:17:04,214 --> 00:17:07,095
predisposed in the body based on traumas and

456
00:17:07,095 --> 00:17:08,554
different things that you've experienced

457
00:17:09,174 --> 00:17:09,835
as a child.

458
00:17:10,819 --> 00:17:12,119
And the spirits would

459
00:17:12,660 --> 00:17:13,640
say, work with

460
00:17:14,179 --> 00:17:16,019
us, and we'll help you walk. But we

461
00:17:16,019 --> 00:17:18,420
were pretty stubborn. We said, no, we can

462
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walk on our own.

463
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We'll learn how to walk again by ourselves.

464
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Because we felt that at that time,

465
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when we were in our early twenties,

466
00:17:29,674 --> 00:17:31,775
that we weren't ready for the responsibility

467
00:17:32,154 --> 00:17:34,095
of walking this way.

468
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We felt it was too big.

469
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It was too frightening

470
00:17:39,759 --> 00:17:41,679
to have someone's life in your hands, and

471
00:17:41,679 --> 00:17:43,440
what if you weren't empty enough and you

472
00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:44,339
made a mistake?

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And so we chose to keep going to

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school.

475
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We loved it. We worked with special needs

476
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:51,220
children,

477
00:17:51,845 --> 00:17:53,924
and we've worked in prisons. We've worked with

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cocaine and heroin addicts. We

479
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we like to work with

480
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people who,

481
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I guess, in many ways in this society,

482
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were people that

483
00:18:05,289 --> 00:18:07,470
were thrown away by the systems.

484
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Were you did you go after so many

485
00:18:11,049 --> 00:18:13,390
different degrees as a way to keep yourself

486
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busy from eventually

487
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heeding the call that was being called to

488
00:18:19,210 --> 00:18:19,710
you?

489
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Well, we also loved learning.

490
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I mean, we when we were young and

491
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wanted to work with special needs people, we

492
00:18:26,964 --> 00:18:28,345
began to realize that

493
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unless you could get people to trust you,

494
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especially

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people who were different,

496
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you would never get them to learn anything.

497
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And so

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it just began opening up degrees in

499
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not only special needs. We had a triple

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masters, then we had a master's in psychology,

501
00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:51,134
then we had a PD in psychology, then

502
00:18:51,134 --> 00:18:53,694
we had a PhD in psychology. We began

503
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to realize that

504
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helping

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understand where people were coming from

506
00:19:00,815 --> 00:19:02,815
and and working in the trenches with people

507
00:19:02,815 --> 00:19:03,554
who'd been

508
00:19:04,019 --> 00:19:06,359
in our society thrown away. Like,

509
00:19:06,740 --> 00:19:08,980
we worked with young people under the age

510
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of 21 who had gone through Rikers and

511
00:19:10,980 --> 00:19:13,320
Spofford and had at least five felonies.

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And we were very blessed in that we

513
00:19:16,660 --> 00:19:19,994
worked with another psychologist who recruited us. We

514
00:19:20,075 --> 00:19:22,174
were the only woman in the entire prison.

515
00:19:24,795 --> 00:19:26,634
And we came up with this great idea

516
00:19:26,634 --> 00:19:29,434
that we wanted to stop this circle of

517
00:19:29,434 --> 00:19:29,934
recidivism.

518
00:19:30,875 --> 00:19:33,375
And because we had the training we had,

519
00:19:34,130 --> 00:19:35,730
we did all the testing. We didn't know

520
00:19:35,730 --> 00:19:37,090
why they were in there, and we said,

521
00:19:37,090 --> 00:19:38,710
we'll tell you why they're in here.

522
00:19:39,170 --> 00:19:41,670
And we actually created a school.

523
00:19:42,130 --> 00:19:44,210
Half of them were dyslexic. Half of them

524
00:19:44,210 --> 00:19:45,430
had learning problems.

525
00:19:46,130 --> 00:19:48,049
Half of them had major traumas in their

526
00:19:48,049 --> 00:19:49,670
lives because they had no mentorship.

527
00:19:50,505 --> 00:19:51,805
And in that process,

528
00:19:52,904 --> 00:19:54,904
they got to turn their lives around because

529
00:19:54,904 --> 00:19:57,625
they began to feel like someone cared about

530
00:19:57,625 --> 00:20:00,025
them. They were not just numbers. They were

531
00:20:00,025 --> 00:20:01,085
just not statistics.

532
00:20:01,865 --> 00:20:02,845
So for us,

533
00:20:03,625 --> 00:20:06,789
all that schooling helped us get other

534
00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:07,750
skills

535
00:20:08,130 --> 00:20:10,289
that would be greatly needed in the work

536
00:20:10,289 --> 00:20:11,809
that we were meant to do in this

537
00:20:11,809 --> 00:20:12,309
lifetime

538
00:20:13,009 --> 00:20:16,069
because we put ourselves in psychiatric hospitals

539
00:20:16,690 --> 00:20:19,089
where people were just put away. We were

540
00:20:19,250 --> 00:20:21,029
we worked in a hospital where

541
00:20:21,694 --> 00:20:24,015
young women who were promiscuous were sent up

542
00:20:24,015 --> 00:20:26,275
the river in New York up to Wasaic

543
00:20:26,335 --> 00:20:26,835
Developmental,

544
00:20:27,934 --> 00:20:30,255
and they were put in with nonverbal people

545
00:20:30,255 --> 00:20:31,875
with IQs below 30.

546
00:20:32,174 --> 00:20:34,174
But after you live with them for thirty,

547
00:20:34,174 --> 00:20:35,714
forty years, you're like them.

548
00:20:36,019 --> 00:20:37,799
And so we helped deinstitutionalize

549
00:20:38,500 --> 00:20:41,319
them and help create halfway houses and

550
00:20:41,859 --> 00:20:43,859
teach them skills so they could be in

551
00:20:43,859 --> 00:20:47,059
the community and slowly begin to not have

552
00:20:47,059 --> 00:20:47,720
to be

553
00:20:48,664 --> 00:20:50,924
housed in those kinds of situations.

554
00:20:51,704 --> 00:20:52,204
So

555
00:20:52,664 --> 00:20:53,325
we think

556
00:20:53,784 --> 00:20:55,964
spirit worked with us in terms

557
00:20:56,984 --> 00:20:59,144
of where and how we got educated and

558
00:20:59,144 --> 00:21:00,605
how that would help us

559
00:21:00,919 --> 00:21:03,179
in terms of helping people on the reservation

560
00:21:03,559 --> 00:21:05,720
because the people on the reservation are also

561
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:06,859
the forgotten people.

562
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,519
And so we started working with the forgotten

563
00:21:10,519 --> 00:21:12,539
people through Western world

564
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:15,480
and then used all that knowledge to then

565
00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,684
help the forgotten people on the reservations

566
00:21:18,144 --> 00:21:20,225
in different ways. I think a lot of

567
00:21:20,225 --> 00:21:20,725
people

568
00:21:21,424 --> 00:21:23,525
in their they don't really consider

569
00:21:24,144 --> 00:21:26,225
people on the reservations. They know of it

570
00:21:26,305 --> 00:21:27,605
this thing that exists,

571
00:21:28,144 --> 00:21:30,465
but they don't go any further than that.

572
00:21:30,465 --> 00:21:31,319
Can you speak

573
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,679
to what life on the reservation is like

574
00:21:34,679 --> 00:21:36,859
and what some of your work has been

575
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:37,500
with,

576
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:41,259
particular reservations that you've worked with? Sure.

577
00:21:41,639 --> 00:21:43,019
We've lived on the

578
00:21:43,734 --> 00:21:44,875
Oglala Territory,

579
00:21:45,575 --> 00:21:46,394
Pine Ridge.

580
00:21:46,774 --> 00:21:48,634
We've lived in Lakota Territory

581
00:21:49,335 --> 00:21:50,315
couple of times,

582
00:21:52,774 --> 00:21:54,714
and it's a really hard life.

583
00:21:55,494 --> 00:21:58,134
30 to 40, sometimes 50% of the people

584
00:21:58,134 --> 00:21:58,740
don't have

585
00:21:59,140 --> 00:22:00,679
infrastructure for housing,

586
00:22:01,380 --> 00:22:04,359
for electricity, for heat, for running water.

587
00:22:04,660 --> 00:22:07,380
Right now, this during our most recent work

588
00:22:07,380 --> 00:22:09,539
on the reservations, we are also a spiritual

589
00:22:09,539 --> 00:22:10,039
leader.

590
00:22:10,420 --> 00:22:12,554
We're a Sundancer for the last thirty four

591
00:22:12,554 --> 00:22:15,595
years and leading Sundances, and that's our high

592
00:22:15,595 --> 00:22:18,494
holy ceremonies and sweat lodges and,

593
00:22:19,194 --> 00:22:21,034
you know, where people need help. We do

594
00:22:21,034 --> 00:22:23,134
doctoring at the Tree of Life

595
00:22:23,835 --> 00:22:26,154
to help people deal with whatever pains they

596
00:22:26,154 --> 00:22:26,654
have.

597
00:22:27,259 --> 00:22:30,460
But our work most recently started during the

598
00:22:30,460 --> 00:22:30,960
pandemic

599
00:22:31,820 --> 00:22:32,320
because

600
00:22:32,779 --> 00:22:35,600
the US government did not give the reservations

601
00:22:35,820 --> 00:22:36,640
any PPE.

602
00:22:37,500 --> 00:22:39,500
So the doctors and the nurses and the

603
00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:40,799
EMTs were dying

604
00:22:41,420 --> 00:22:41,920
quickly.

605
00:22:43,154 --> 00:22:43,654
And,

606
00:22:44,035 --> 00:22:44,535
actually,

607
00:22:46,075 --> 00:22:48,755
I mean, there's some pretty horrible stories. I

608
00:22:48,755 --> 00:22:49,555
mean, I I

609
00:22:52,755 --> 00:22:53,255
but

610
00:22:54,275 --> 00:22:55,734
the important thing was,

611
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:57,840
how do we raise money to help them?

612
00:22:57,840 --> 00:22:59,759
If they don't have water to wash their

613
00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:01,940
hands, how can they stay clean?

614
00:23:02,559 --> 00:23:04,420
So we began we were actually

615
00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:05,940
walking up a hill.

616
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,559
When we do prayer ceremonies, and on the

617
00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,184
fourth day of someone's passing, we put tobacco

618
00:23:11,184 --> 00:23:12,164
in running water.

619
00:23:12,625 --> 00:23:14,625
And it's not tobacco like we think of

620
00:23:14,625 --> 00:23:17,664
cigarette tobacco. It's tobacco with herbs and other

621
00:23:17,664 --> 00:23:19,984
kinds of things with our sacred pipe. And

622
00:23:19,984 --> 00:23:21,664
we happen to be going up for one

623
00:23:21,664 --> 00:23:23,044
particular holy person's

624
00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,680
wife who had passed. I want to say

625
00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:26,180
something.

626
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,059
A lot of people use the word shaman,

627
00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:30,980
and shama

628
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,779
means holy person in Mongolia.

629
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,980
And so we don't use that word.

630
00:23:37,705 --> 00:23:40,765
That's, that's a Western white word that's used

631
00:23:41,545 --> 00:23:44,424
that everybody and his brother and sister become

632
00:23:44,424 --> 00:23:46,285
shamans when they go to weekend workshops.

633
00:23:46,904 --> 00:23:48,605
It's really a misappropriation

634
00:23:49,065 --> 00:23:49,884
of the language,

635
00:23:50,585 --> 00:23:52,285
and the holy people

636
00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:55,900
in many of the indigenous languages, there's no

637
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:57,900
word for them because everybody just knows who

638
00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:59,579
they are. They know who to go for

639
00:23:59,579 --> 00:24:02,160
help for. It's not like it's a

640
00:24:03,259 --> 00:24:05,259
a title, I guess, is the the best

641
00:24:05,259 --> 00:24:07,765
way to say it. It's it's it's considered

642
00:24:07,904 --> 00:24:10,224
one part of the spoke of the circle

643
00:24:10,224 --> 00:24:12,304
of life and the wheel of life. That's

644
00:24:12,304 --> 00:24:14,704
one role. The fire keeper is just as

645
00:24:14,704 --> 00:24:16,005
important in the ceremonies.

646
00:24:16,944 --> 00:24:17,684
And so

647
00:24:18,704 --> 00:24:20,724
when we were going up the hill to

648
00:24:21,089 --> 00:24:23,329
to place that tobacco and then got three

649
00:24:23,329 --> 00:24:25,009
other calls of three other people who had

650
00:24:25,009 --> 00:24:25,509
passed,

651
00:24:26,130 --> 00:24:27,490
when we were up at the top at

652
00:24:27,490 --> 00:24:28,869
the waterfall, the spirits

653
00:24:29,410 --> 00:24:30,470
told us that

654
00:24:30,929 --> 00:24:32,150
we had four days

655
00:24:32,609 --> 00:24:35,315
to get ready to start a GoFundMe because

656
00:24:35,315 --> 00:24:37,255
the Dene people would be hit the worst.

657
00:24:38,035 --> 00:24:39,875
And then we started the GoFundMe for the

658
00:24:39,875 --> 00:24:42,295
Dene people, and we worked the entire pandemic,

659
00:24:42,674 --> 00:24:43,894
going back and forth,

660
00:24:44,195 --> 00:24:45,174
bringing supplies.

661
00:24:45,715 --> 00:24:48,355
We had two brothers who also worked, and

662
00:24:48,355 --> 00:24:49,575
we would arrange

663
00:24:51,019 --> 00:24:52,940
you weren't no one was allowed on the

664
00:24:52,940 --> 00:24:53,440
reservation

665
00:24:53,740 --> 00:24:56,000
at the time, but we would sneak in

666
00:24:56,619 --> 00:24:59,339
with different license plates, and we knew where

667
00:24:59,339 --> 00:25:01,420
to drive. And we would bring

668
00:25:02,025 --> 00:25:04,825
We called doctors and begged for booties and

669
00:25:04,825 --> 00:25:05,484
begged for,

670
00:25:06,105 --> 00:25:06,765
you know,

671
00:25:07,545 --> 00:25:10,205
the the gowns and begged for masks, and

672
00:25:11,065 --> 00:25:12,605
we had a lot of people.

673
00:25:13,705 --> 00:25:15,625
We just put out the word, and Boulder

674
00:25:15,625 --> 00:25:17,545
Mask Makers helped us as well as New

675
00:25:17,545 --> 00:25:19,539
York City Mask Makers heard about

676
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:20,500
us,

677
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,980
and they started sending masks.

678
00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:24,980
And then people started donating

679
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:26,980
sewing machines

680
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:30,660
and cloth from quilting companies, you know, quilting

681
00:25:31,625 --> 00:25:33,565
companies, organizations. We just

682
00:25:33,945 --> 00:25:36,105
and we didn't know anybody in Colorado at

683
00:25:36,105 --> 00:25:38,505
the time, but we just started putting things

684
00:25:38,505 --> 00:25:39,404
out there and

685
00:25:39,705 --> 00:25:40,525
it just

686
00:25:40,985 --> 00:25:42,205
took hold.

687
00:25:42,664 --> 00:25:45,164
And so we spent the next four years,

688
00:25:46,330 --> 00:25:49,289
you know, we put water tanks, 275

689
00:25:49,289 --> 00:25:51,070
gallon water tanks around the reservation.

690
00:25:51,529 --> 00:25:53,369
We raised money to buy trailers for our

691
00:25:53,369 --> 00:25:53,869
brothers.

692
00:25:54,330 --> 00:25:56,269
And then our brothers, on top of

693
00:25:56,570 --> 00:25:58,029
working and helping everyone,

694
00:25:58,410 --> 00:26:00,795
they would go and deliver water every day

695
00:26:01,035 --> 00:26:03,115
to all these people so they could wash

696
00:26:03,115 --> 00:26:04,815
and keep their hands clean

697
00:26:05,355 --> 00:26:08,414
and try to fight, you know, the illness

698
00:26:08,795 --> 00:26:11,535
and the disease because they had no protection.

699
00:26:13,619 --> 00:26:15,380
Even though they were used as a part

700
00:26:15,380 --> 00:26:17,400
of the experiment from Johns Hopkins

701
00:26:18,019 --> 00:26:20,740
before the vaccines came out, they were asked

702
00:26:20,740 --> 00:26:21,559
to be volunteers,

703
00:26:22,819 --> 00:26:24,819
but they were also told if they didn't

704
00:26:24,819 --> 00:26:26,980
volunteer, they could lose their government jobs. So

705
00:26:26,980 --> 00:26:29,144
that doesn't sound like a volunteer job to

706
00:26:29,144 --> 00:26:29,644
me,

707
00:26:30,184 --> 00:26:32,105
but these are all stories that don't get

708
00:26:32,105 --> 00:26:33,484
told outside the reservation.

709
00:26:34,424 --> 00:26:35,164
And so

710
00:26:36,505 --> 00:26:39,865
we then started helping after every sundance. We

711
00:26:39,865 --> 00:26:41,944
would come home and use our driveway to,

712
00:26:44,299 --> 00:26:47,019
collect blankets and jackets and boots and books

713
00:26:47,019 --> 00:26:47,519
and

714
00:26:48,059 --> 00:26:50,960
anything that was needed for women, children, elders,

715
00:26:51,099 --> 00:26:52,240
veterans, disabled,

716
00:26:52,940 --> 00:26:53,440
crutches,

717
00:26:54,140 --> 00:26:56,000
anything that anybody had.

718
00:26:56,460 --> 00:26:56,960
And

719
00:26:57,575 --> 00:27:00,795
we would rent fifteen, twenty foot trucks, and

720
00:27:01,335 --> 00:27:03,015
we had other people drive them out there.

721
00:27:03,015 --> 00:27:05,174
We followed them, and that continued for four

722
00:27:05,174 --> 00:27:07,275
years while we were living in Colorado.

723
00:27:07,734 --> 00:27:08,234
Indigenous

724
00:27:08,535 --> 00:27:09,035
Americans

725
00:27:09,894 --> 00:27:10,954
are a huge

726
00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:12,230
proportion

727
00:27:12,849 --> 00:27:13,589
of veterans.

728
00:27:13,970 --> 00:27:16,230
Yes. It's a big honor. And

729
00:27:16,769 --> 00:27:19,250
there's there are three code there are two

730
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:21,029
code talkers only left.

731
00:27:21,569 --> 00:27:23,569
The third code talker who we got to

732
00:27:23,569 --> 00:27:25,589
meet because of our brother Earl,

733
00:27:26,644 --> 00:27:28,724
we actually had fallen down a flight of

734
00:27:28,724 --> 00:27:30,264
stairs with a suitcase

735
00:27:30,884 --> 00:27:32,024
and Wanda

736
00:27:32,804 --> 00:27:33,704
cracking something.

737
00:27:34,164 --> 00:27:36,085
And we still went out because we had

738
00:27:36,085 --> 00:27:37,464
his down jacket,

739
00:27:37,845 --> 00:27:40,184
down clothes, two pairs of long johns,

740
00:27:40,570 --> 00:27:41,070
a

741
00:27:41,529 --> 00:27:42,349
wool beanie.

742
00:27:42,650 --> 00:27:45,210
His name we can't repeat his name because

743
00:27:45,210 --> 00:27:47,609
in our tradition, we don't use their name

744
00:27:47,609 --> 00:27:50,170
after they've passed because we don't wanna bring

745
00:27:50,170 --> 00:27:52,410
them back. We want them to continue on

746
00:27:52,410 --> 00:27:53,230
in their way.

747
00:27:53,769 --> 00:27:55,390
But he lived in a shack,

748
00:27:56,444 --> 00:27:57,664
a real shack,

749
00:27:58,605 --> 00:27:59,424
not something

750
00:27:59,964 --> 00:28:02,125
that he deserved to live in for someone

751
00:28:02,125 --> 00:28:03,884
who helped save. He was one of the

752
00:28:03,884 --> 00:28:07,005
code talkers. He helped save the war. So

753
00:28:07,005 --> 00:28:08,784
nobody deserves to live in a shack.

754
00:28:09,565 --> 00:28:10,065
Correct.

755
00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:12,009
And no one deserves to live with no

756
00:28:12,009 --> 00:28:14,490
heat, and no one deserves to live with

757
00:28:14,490 --> 00:28:17,210
no electricity and no running water. But it

758
00:28:17,210 --> 00:28:19,130
was wonderful to meet him, and we wound

759
00:28:19,130 --> 00:28:21,369
up giving him his gifts. And he told

760
00:28:21,369 --> 00:28:23,789
us stories, and he would speak in

761
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:26,934
Dine and then other languages he picked up

762
00:28:26,934 --> 00:28:28,315
while he was in the war.

763
00:28:28,694 --> 00:28:30,214
But he was a hundred and two when

764
00:28:30,214 --> 00:28:31,035
we met him.

765
00:28:32,214 --> 00:28:34,075
He died at a hundred and four.

766
00:28:35,174 --> 00:28:37,255
And there are still two two code talkers

767
00:28:37,255 --> 00:28:38,795
left, and we're glad that

768
00:28:39,580 --> 00:28:42,140
not all their faces are back up because

769
00:28:42,140 --> 00:28:44,799
the current regime has taken them off,

770
00:28:45,420 --> 00:28:47,740
but they're still not on the military side.

771
00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:48,240
So

772
00:28:48,859 --> 00:28:49,920
as part of

773
00:28:50,700 --> 00:28:52,559
this country's need to erase

774
00:28:53,394 --> 00:28:54,454
people of color,

775
00:28:55,634 --> 00:28:56,134
they're

776
00:28:56,515 --> 00:28:58,615
completely not back being visible.

777
00:29:00,115 --> 00:29:03,255
Yeah. That's, to me, bonkers that they've literally

778
00:29:03,315 --> 00:29:05,255
gone through and erased

779
00:29:06,130 --> 00:29:08,230
the names of people and

780
00:29:08,690 --> 00:29:09,190
airplanes

781
00:29:09,490 --> 00:29:12,049
because the word gay, Enola Gay, it's an

782
00:29:12,049 --> 00:29:12,549
airplane.

783
00:29:12,929 --> 00:29:14,929
They took that down. Yeah. Jackie Robinson. It's

784
00:29:14,929 --> 00:29:17,269
an important airplane because it's the airplane that

785
00:29:17,329 --> 00:29:19,835
dropped the h bomb. Of course, it's important,

786
00:29:19,835 --> 00:29:21,355
but it's got the word gay in its

787
00:29:21,355 --> 00:29:23,214
title. It's so ridiculous.

788
00:29:23,914 --> 00:29:27,034
It's very upside down. This teacher came. This

789
00:29:27,034 --> 00:29:29,355
regime came because a lot of people in

790
00:29:29,355 --> 00:29:31,994
this country did not appreciate the freedom that

791
00:29:31,994 --> 00:29:32,654
they had.

792
00:29:33,860 --> 00:29:35,380
And so now they have to lose their

793
00:29:35,380 --> 00:29:35,880
freedom

794
00:29:36,180 --> 00:29:36,920
to understand

795
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:39,080
to understand

796
00:29:39,620 --> 00:29:41,940
what freedom really means. People took it for

797
00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:43,700
granted. A lot of people in this country

798
00:29:43,700 --> 00:29:44,759
are people of privilege.

799
00:29:46,174 --> 00:29:49,214
The forgotten people, as we're called by our

800
00:29:49,214 --> 00:29:49,954
own people,

801
00:29:50,335 --> 00:29:52,835
because even during the president elections,

802
00:29:53,535 --> 00:29:54,835
we were never mentioned.

803
00:29:55,294 --> 00:29:57,214
They mentioned the black people all the time,

804
00:29:57,214 --> 00:29:59,454
but they never mentioned the indigenous. It's like

805
00:29:59,454 --> 00:30:00,434
we don't exist.

806
00:30:02,150 --> 00:30:05,029
And we're in many urban centers, many, many

807
00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:05,929
urban centers,

808
00:30:06,470 --> 00:30:07,769
and on the reservations.

809
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:10,150
And a lot of the children leave the

810
00:30:10,150 --> 00:30:12,169
reservations because it's not a lot of work.

811
00:30:13,904 --> 00:30:14,404
And

812
00:30:14,785 --> 00:30:15,285
so

813
00:30:16,384 --> 00:30:17,845
part of why we

814
00:30:19,184 --> 00:30:21,664
when we say we're doctor Michael to people,

815
00:30:21,664 --> 00:30:24,065
it's to help people understand that indigenous people

816
00:30:24,065 --> 00:30:24,805
are smart

817
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:27,259
if given the opportunities.

818
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,700
There are two nieces,

819
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,059
are hydrologists

820
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,519
who have been working with NASA. One's with

821
00:30:32,519 --> 00:30:34,360
NASA, and one has been working with Deb

822
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,680
Hallen when she was in the Department of

823
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,180
Interior

824
00:30:38,455 --> 00:30:41,174
helping to find water for the reservation because

825
00:30:41,174 --> 00:30:43,355
our water was cut off by a dam

826
00:30:43,654 --> 00:30:44,875
on the Dene Reservation.

827
00:30:45,894 --> 00:30:48,634
So they've gotten their PhDs from UVM,

828
00:30:49,095 --> 00:30:49,595
but

829
00:30:50,470 --> 00:30:52,230
they also had a father who made sure

830
00:30:52,230 --> 00:30:53,529
that they had the opportunities.

831
00:30:54,230 --> 00:30:55,610
A lot of native people

832
00:30:56,230 --> 00:30:57,049
on the reservations

833
00:30:57,350 --> 00:30:59,930
are still traumatized from all the boarding schools.

834
00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:04,630
You know? And so there's a lot of

835
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:05,130
mistrust

836
00:31:06,414 --> 00:31:07,634
of the white nation.

837
00:31:08,654 --> 00:31:10,894
But Krazy Pars spoke about all of us

838
00:31:10,894 --> 00:31:11,714
coming together

839
00:31:12,174 --> 00:31:13,634
at this time, and so

840
00:31:14,095 --> 00:31:15,555
it's about keeping that

841
00:31:16,494 --> 00:31:16,994
belief

842
00:31:17,295 --> 00:31:19,315
alive that we're all related,

843
00:31:20,059 --> 00:31:21,819
and we're here for a reason to help

844
00:31:21,819 --> 00:31:22,480
each other.

845
00:31:22,940 --> 00:31:25,819
You're keeping really busy. You're putting, as they

846
00:31:25,819 --> 00:31:27,599
say, your money where your mouth is.

847
00:31:28,539 --> 00:31:30,940
Talk about some of the different things you've

848
00:31:30,940 --> 00:31:31,919
been doing lately.

849
00:31:32,524 --> 00:31:34,444
We've been given permission to use our gifts

850
00:31:34,444 --> 00:31:36,384
to help people in general.

851
00:31:37,085 --> 00:31:38,605
So we have worked

852
00:31:39,164 --> 00:31:40,865
we do an intuitive ceremony,

853
00:31:41,484 --> 00:31:44,204
which we charge for because tobacco cannot fill

854
00:31:44,204 --> 00:31:46,544
the gas tank, and tobacco cannot

855
00:31:47,029 --> 00:31:49,190
help pay PG and E. But most of

856
00:31:49,190 --> 00:31:51,609
our work is for free because all our

857
00:31:52,230 --> 00:31:53,909
you know, we did all the climate change

858
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:57,210
work in Denver, in Colorado, and we helped

859
00:31:57,349 --> 00:31:59,589
doctor Greta Thunberg at the time when she

860
00:31:59,589 --> 00:32:00,490
came in sick.

861
00:32:01,109 --> 00:32:01,609
So

862
00:32:02,044 --> 00:32:04,125
all that work is free. All our protest

863
00:32:04,125 --> 00:32:06,944
work is free. But it's important work

864
00:32:07,565 --> 00:32:10,204
because from Young, we were chosen as a

865
00:32:10,204 --> 00:32:11,345
keeper of the Earth.

866
00:32:11,644 --> 00:32:12,704
So we are

867
00:32:13,325 --> 00:32:14,625
bound to her forever,

868
00:32:15,139 --> 00:32:17,380
and we are most grateful for that because

869
00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:18,440
she brings us

870
00:32:19,539 --> 00:32:21,480
so many awesome gifts

871
00:32:21,859 --> 00:32:22,759
and awesome

872
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:24,519
visions and awesome

873
00:32:25,619 --> 00:32:26,119
experiences.

874
00:32:27,460 --> 00:32:29,399
It's it's it's

875
00:32:31,025 --> 00:32:33,265
we need to keep remembering as people that

876
00:32:33,265 --> 00:32:35,424
there are miracles happening every day, and those

877
00:32:35,424 --> 00:32:36,644
don't get on television.

878
00:32:38,464 --> 00:32:39,365
They only

879
00:32:39,904 --> 00:32:40,804
put on television

880
00:32:41,184 --> 00:32:42,404
sensational news,

881
00:32:43,769 --> 00:32:45,769
and there are wonderful things happening. There are

882
00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:47,769
people who are doing incredible things, but the

883
00:32:47,769 --> 00:32:48,269
the

884
00:32:49,369 --> 00:32:51,769
part of our work is working individually with

885
00:32:51,769 --> 00:32:53,690
people and or in groups. We used to

886
00:32:53,690 --> 00:32:55,930
work a lot in groups, but because of

887
00:32:55,930 --> 00:32:57,944
the virus, we stopped doing that

888
00:32:58,424 --> 00:33:00,105
because it was too close and it was

889
00:33:00,105 --> 00:33:00,845
too dangerous.

890
00:33:01,784 --> 00:33:03,544
But the work that we do is we

891
00:33:03,544 --> 00:33:04,684
can go into trance,

892
00:33:05,784 --> 00:33:07,944
and we use our gift of sight to

893
00:33:07,944 --> 00:33:10,684
travel through the body. The body's an electrical

894
00:33:10,825 --> 00:33:11,325
unit,

895
00:33:11,799 --> 00:33:14,299
and each cell is like a computer chip.

896
00:33:14,839 --> 00:33:16,380
And it has information

897
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,960
about why we're not healing or what we're

898
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:21,579
predisposed to, what diseases.

899
00:33:22,039 --> 00:33:23,960
And we work a lot with cancer patients.

900
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,740
We've worked with people who've had transplants.

901
00:33:26,265 --> 00:33:27,565
We've worked with people

902
00:33:28,184 --> 00:33:30,684
who have lupus. We have worked with people

903
00:33:30,744 --> 00:33:31,404
who have

904
00:33:32,904 --> 00:33:34,825
ALS. We've worked with people who have

905
00:33:35,945 --> 00:33:37,384
a lot of the people we see are

906
00:33:37,384 --> 00:33:39,085
people that Western medicine

907
00:33:39,545 --> 00:33:41,085
says you're done.

908
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:42,339
And then

909
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,320
they come to us or find out about

910
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,700
us either through the Internet,

911
00:33:47,279 --> 00:33:47,779
through

912
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:51,680
wwdoctormariamichael.com,

913
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,299
and they read about us. And

914
00:33:53,775 --> 00:33:55,615
we've worked in people as far as Dubai,

915
00:33:55,615 --> 00:33:58,095
and Australia, and Africa. It doesn't matter. The

916
00:33:58,095 --> 00:34:01,375
spirits spirits don't have to use a plane.

917
00:34:01,375 --> 00:34:03,775
They can travel very easily and go anywhere

918
00:34:03,775 --> 00:34:06,195
that they want. It's really quite remarkable.

919
00:34:07,134 --> 00:34:07,634
But

920
00:34:07,970 --> 00:34:09,969
we get to outline and give people a

921
00:34:09,969 --> 00:34:12,469
blueprint of what's going on in their body

922
00:34:13,170 --> 00:34:15,250
and where they're stuck and what people they

923
00:34:15,250 --> 00:34:16,789
have swallowed and what things

924
00:34:17,650 --> 00:34:20,769
and what traumas are still impacting them that

925
00:34:20,769 --> 00:34:22,630
cause disease in the body.

926
00:34:24,244 --> 00:34:25,844
And then they at least have an idea

927
00:34:25,844 --> 00:34:27,765
of where to start to do the deeper

928
00:34:27,765 --> 00:34:29,844
work. Some of the people choose to do

929
00:34:29,844 --> 00:34:31,684
the deeper work with us. Sometimes it's not

930
00:34:31,684 --> 00:34:34,344
appropriate. Sometimes we're recommending doctors.

931
00:34:34,644 --> 00:34:36,405
In fact, we're gonna be meeting a doctor

932
00:34:36,405 --> 00:34:38,664
on Sunday who's happened to fly into California,

933
00:34:39,579 --> 00:34:40,079
who

934
00:34:40,619 --> 00:34:43,440
we worked very extensively for four years

935
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:44,639
four days.

936
00:34:46,059 --> 00:34:48,780
She was a graduate of Columbia Presbyterian and

937
00:34:48,780 --> 00:34:50,480
Yale, and we helped create,

938
00:34:51,659 --> 00:34:54,375
a protocol for pre and post vaccine so

939
00:34:54,375 --> 00:34:55,594
people would not become

940
00:34:56,375 --> 00:34:59,175
long haulers with the spirits. And she was

941
00:34:59,175 --> 00:35:01,574
very open to working with them aloud. And

942
00:35:01,574 --> 00:35:02,635
before the vaccine,

943
00:35:02,934 --> 00:35:05,035
the spirit gave us a whole list of

944
00:35:05,094 --> 00:35:07,599
herbs to take so that people could stay

945
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:08,099
safe.

946
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,880
So we work in a variety of different

947
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:11,380
ways.

948
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,699
We we love working individually.

949
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:14,739
It really

950
00:35:15,679 --> 00:35:18,559
it's like watching a flower blossom one petal

951
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:20,340
at a time as people heal.

952
00:35:20,704 --> 00:35:21,204
It's

953
00:35:21,505 --> 00:35:22,565
it's such a gift

954
00:35:23,344 --> 00:35:24,644
to be a part of that.

955
00:35:25,344 --> 00:35:26,804
I can think of one person

956
00:35:27,105 --> 00:35:28,864
that it would be an interesting story to

957
00:35:28,864 --> 00:35:31,045
hear. She had COPD. She had emphysema.

958
00:35:32,224 --> 00:35:33,045
She had

959
00:35:33,639 --> 00:35:34,139
fibromyalgia,

960
00:35:34,519 --> 00:35:37,239
chronic fatigue. Her hands were bent. Her toes

961
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:37,900
were bent.

962
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,199
She went to work like that every day

963
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:40,859
in pain.

964
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,280
She was on 14 or 15 medications. She

965
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:46,300
had an inhaler that she used

966
00:35:47,015 --> 00:35:48,855
several times a day, and that was the

967
00:35:48,855 --> 00:35:50,155
only way she could exist.

968
00:35:51,255 --> 00:35:53,755
And her sister actually sent her to us,

969
00:35:54,135 --> 00:35:54,934
but for four year

970
00:35:55,655 --> 00:35:57,255
for four months, she was afraid to call

971
00:35:57,255 --> 00:35:58,934
us because she was afraid she was dying

972
00:35:58,934 --> 00:35:59,434
and

973
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,440
didn't wanna hear the truth didn't wanna hear

974
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,300
that and knew we would speak the truth.

975
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,000
And, eventually, she had the courage to call

976
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,860
us, and we worked together for two years.

977
00:36:08,159 --> 00:36:10,099
And we wound up talking to her pulmonologist

978
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,179
because he wanted to know where her COPD

979
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:12,820
went

980
00:36:13,364 --> 00:36:15,945
and where her emphysema went. It was completely

981
00:36:16,005 --> 00:36:16,505
cured,

982
00:36:17,284 --> 00:36:18,905
and she had no more fibromyalgia,

983
00:36:19,364 --> 00:36:20,824
had no more chronic fatigue.

984
00:36:21,204 --> 00:36:23,204
She walks four miles a day to this

985
00:36:23,204 --> 00:36:23,704
day,

986
00:36:24,005 --> 00:36:26,244
and she's completely healed and has uses no

987
00:36:26,244 --> 00:36:26,744
medication.

988
00:36:28,099 --> 00:36:30,039
The body knows how to heal,

989
00:36:30,579 --> 00:36:32,260
but you have to give it the right

990
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:32,760
information.

991
00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:34,599
And if there's trauma

992
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:37,219
in the body and in the cells like

993
00:36:37,219 --> 00:36:38,519
chips, it holds

994
00:36:38,980 --> 00:36:40,679
that information so tight

995
00:36:41,059 --> 00:36:41,559
because

996
00:36:43,825 --> 00:36:46,405
people become split apart. They're sensitive,

997
00:36:46,785 --> 00:36:47,285
and

998
00:36:48,144 --> 00:36:49,825
a part of the emotional part of their

999
00:36:49,825 --> 00:36:50,805
bodies get

1000
00:36:51,425 --> 00:36:51,925
separated

1001
00:36:52,224 --> 00:36:54,144
from the physical body so they can just

1002
00:36:54,144 --> 00:36:55,204
continue to keep

1003
00:36:55,585 --> 00:36:56,085
functioning.

1004
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,679
And they function, but only half of them.

1005
00:36:58,679 --> 00:37:01,019
And when you're able to integrate both sides,

1006
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,280
whatever their children's dysfunction is from little, from

1007
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:05,960
their twenties or their thirties or their forties,

1008
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:07,900
we started working with her in her fifties.

1009
00:37:08,519 --> 00:37:10,539
So she'd been sick a long time,

1010
00:37:11,945 --> 00:37:13,244
and she healed herself.

1011
00:37:14,105 --> 00:37:15,565
And it's really possible

1012
00:37:15,945 --> 00:37:16,764
to do that.

1013
00:37:17,304 --> 00:37:19,244
We have healed ourselves of

1014
00:37:19,625 --> 00:37:21,784
brain tumors, all kinds of things. We used

1015
00:37:21,784 --> 00:37:23,385
to have doctors say, can you just go

1016
00:37:23,385 --> 00:37:25,465
to medical school? Why do the spirits keep

1017
00:37:25,465 --> 00:37:27,779
giving you all the incurable things?

1018
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:29,679
And we kept saying, because that's how we're

1019
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:30,739
learning to do it.

1020
00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:32,880
And they were like, yeah, but you're giving

1021
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,719
us all PTSD. And I was like, but

1022
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,859
that's how it is.

1023
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,319
You said something a minute ago that really

1024
00:37:38,319 --> 00:37:40,819
struck me. You said the people we swallow.

1025
00:37:41,255 --> 00:37:41,755
What

1026
00:37:42,614 --> 00:37:44,855
a what a perfect way to say that.

1027
00:37:44,855 --> 00:37:46,535
Can you talk about that a little bit

1028
00:37:46,535 --> 00:37:48,795
and how that it's in the body?

1029
00:37:50,295 --> 00:37:51,914
Life is busy and distracting.

1030
00:37:52,375 --> 00:37:53,835
And when we're in pain,

1031
00:37:54,295 --> 00:37:55,675
distraction is a gift.

1032
00:37:56,130 --> 00:37:56,630
We

1033
00:37:58,289 --> 00:38:00,849
think. But it's not really a gift because

1034
00:38:00,849 --> 00:38:02,369
what it does is it puts away our

1035
00:38:02,369 --> 00:38:02,869
emotions

1036
00:38:03,650 --> 00:38:06,289
and separates us from feeling the depth and

1037
00:38:06,289 --> 00:38:08,609
the overwhelm of the emotion because maybe at

1038
00:38:08,609 --> 00:38:10,690
that time, we don't have the luxury to

1039
00:38:10,690 --> 00:38:12,764
feel it. We don't have the environment where

1040
00:38:12,764 --> 00:38:14,304
it's safe enough to feel it,

1041
00:38:14,684 --> 00:38:16,144
and we need to keep functional

1042
00:38:16,684 --> 00:38:19,565
because in this society, that's what's important, staying

1043
00:38:19,565 --> 00:38:21,824
functional, to keep working, to keep doing.

1044
00:38:22,684 --> 00:38:25,609
And so what happens is we split apart,

1045
00:38:25,750 --> 00:38:27,849
and the emotional parts of our body

1046
00:38:29,269 --> 00:38:32,630
go underneath imagine a big boardroom table there's

1047
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:35,510
different ages at different places and what happens

1048
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:36,010
is

1049
00:38:36,684 --> 00:38:39,105
we swallow the people and the pain

1050
00:38:39,565 --> 00:38:41,404
associated with those people, and they go into

1051
00:38:41,404 --> 00:38:44,464
different organs in different places for different reasons.

1052
00:38:45,324 --> 00:38:45,824
And

1053
00:38:46,605 --> 00:38:49,085
it's those things that if an organ has

1054
00:38:49,085 --> 00:38:50,464
a % energy

1055
00:38:51,539 --> 00:38:53,539
and 40 or 50% of it is being

1056
00:38:53,539 --> 00:38:54,920
used to hold on to emotions

1057
00:38:55,699 --> 00:38:57,239
that can't be dealt with

1058
00:38:57,619 --> 00:38:59,539
or won't be dealt with, then the organ

1059
00:38:59,539 --> 00:39:00,519
can only function

1060
00:39:02,340 --> 00:39:05,059
on a forty, fifty, or 60% plane, which

1061
00:39:05,059 --> 00:39:07,000
mean it's not functioning optimally.

1062
00:39:08,074 --> 00:39:10,394
And, eventually, it catches up with us and

1063
00:39:10,394 --> 00:39:12,974
wakes us up as a disease like cancer

1064
00:39:13,194 --> 00:39:14,014
or AIDS

1065
00:39:14,315 --> 00:39:14,815
or

1066
00:39:16,635 --> 00:39:17,135
dialysis

1067
00:39:17,755 --> 00:39:18,974
or transplants

1068
00:39:19,355 --> 00:39:19,855
or

1069
00:39:20,554 --> 00:39:21,375
heart surgery,

1070
00:39:22,150 --> 00:39:23,929
whatever the illness might be.

1071
00:39:24,469 --> 00:39:26,630
And so there's ways that we can prevent

1072
00:39:26,630 --> 00:39:28,550
these things. I mean, there are things that

1073
00:39:28,550 --> 00:39:29,929
we inherit genetically,

1074
00:39:30,469 --> 00:39:31,289
all of us,

1075
00:39:31,989 --> 00:39:33,449
through our family lineages.

1076
00:39:34,070 --> 00:39:36,809
But there's a difference between genetics and epigenetics.

1077
00:39:38,285 --> 00:39:41,025
We can have epigenetics, and we can actually

1078
00:39:41,085 --> 00:39:42,704
change things from materializing.

1079
00:39:43,965 --> 00:39:44,704
For example,

1080
00:39:45,085 --> 00:39:45,985
in our family,

1081
00:39:47,005 --> 00:39:49,644
there was a history of gallbladders, and everyone

1082
00:39:49,644 --> 00:39:52,409
had their gallbladders out on on the maternal

1083
00:39:52,409 --> 00:39:54,030
side from what we were told.

1084
00:39:54,730 --> 00:39:56,750
And when we had appendicitis,

1085
00:39:57,769 --> 00:39:59,769
they wanted to take our appendix out, and

1086
00:39:59,769 --> 00:40:00,670
we said, no.

1087
00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:02,889
We need it. God gave it to us.

1088
00:40:02,889 --> 00:40:04,190
You can't take it out.

1089
00:40:04,730 --> 00:40:05,230
But

1090
00:40:06,494 --> 00:40:07,234
they prevailed

1091
00:40:07,534 --> 00:40:10,014
because it was ready to burst, so we

1092
00:40:10,014 --> 00:40:10,835
said, okay.

1093
00:40:11,934 --> 00:40:13,775
We'll let you have it, but we didn't

1094
00:40:13,775 --> 00:40:15,694
sign any other papers. And when we came

1095
00:40:15,694 --> 00:40:17,934
out of surgery, they said, we should have

1096
00:40:17,934 --> 00:40:18,914
taken your gallbladder.

1097
00:40:19,369 --> 00:40:21,230
And we said, why? They said, well, it's

1098
00:40:21,530 --> 00:40:23,289
diseased. It needs to come out. And I'm

1099
00:40:23,289 --> 00:40:24,829
like, oh, no. No. No. No.

1100
00:40:25,210 --> 00:40:26,429
We're stopping this

1101
00:40:27,210 --> 00:40:27,710
genetic

1102
00:40:30,090 --> 00:40:30,590
transmission

1103
00:40:31,130 --> 00:40:32,804
right now. We're We're gonna

1104
00:40:33,184 --> 00:40:34,915
start working on this gallbladder because we don't

1105
00:40:34,915 --> 00:40:37,184
wanna pass on bad gallbladders for the next

1106
00:40:37,184 --> 00:40:37,684
generations.

1107
00:40:38,625 --> 00:40:41,824
So we can change things epigenetically. Things don't

1108
00:40:41,824 --> 00:40:42,724
have to manifest.

1109
00:40:43,664 --> 00:40:45,204
And we're quite old,

1110
00:40:45,505 --> 00:40:47,045
and we still have our gallbladder.

1111
00:40:47,969 --> 00:40:48,949
Do you have children?

1112
00:40:49,570 --> 00:40:51,409
Yes. We have two. We have twins. We

1113
00:40:51,409 --> 00:40:52,449
were very blessed. They're

1114
00:40:53,170 --> 00:40:55,170
we have a son and a daughter. They

1115
00:40:55,170 --> 00:40:56,769
had a hard time coming in. They were

1116
00:40:56,769 --> 00:40:58,769
born at two pounds and came in three

1117
00:40:58,769 --> 00:40:59,989
months early uncooked.

1118
00:41:00,369 --> 00:41:02,050
Not sure why they wanted to come in

1119
00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:02,710
that way.

1120
00:41:03,515 --> 00:41:05,195
But our grandma and the rez went to

1121
00:41:05,195 --> 00:41:06,875
the tree of life and prayed for them

1122
00:41:06,875 --> 00:41:08,094
in the December

1123
00:41:08,394 --> 00:41:09,934
and felt the tree raise

1124
00:41:10,235 --> 00:41:12,414
and said, don't worry. They're gonna be okay.

1125
00:41:13,355 --> 00:41:15,114
But they had a very hard couple of

1126
00:41:15,114 --> 00:41:17,035
years being on heart and lung machines and

1127
00:41:17,035 --> 00:41:19,050
having RNs live with us around the clock,

1128
00:41:20,090 --> 00:41:21,390
but they're great people.

1129
00:41:21,769 --> 00:41:23,309
They're just great people.

1130
00:41:23,929 --> 00:41:24,910
We're very blessed.

1131
00:41:25,849 --> 00:41:26,590
I understand

1132
00:41:26,969 --> 00:41:28,910
the path of souls that

1133
00:41:29,769 --> 00:41:31,869
that, is walked upon

1134
00:41:32,264 --> 00:41:34,424
after you die, after you shake off the

1135
00:41:34,424 --> 00:41:37,244
mortal coil. Is there a belief system that

1136
00:41:37,385 --> 00:41:40,105
incorporates reincarnation at all, or is that not

1137
00:41:40,105 --> 00:41:41,324
part of the system?

1138
00:41:41,625 --> 00:41:43,644
Absolutely. We come from stardust,

1139
00:41:44,930 --> 00:41:46,690
and we go back to the star nation

1140
00:41:46,690 --> 00:41:47,970
people. So we're doing

1141
00:41:49,010 --> 00:41:51,570
constantly getting calls about people who are dying

1142
00:41:51,570 --> 00:41:52,070
and

1143
00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:55,030
helping them through hospice or helping them

1144
00:41:55,329 --> 00:41:57,430
pray for them doing a four day ceremony

1145
00:41:57,570 --> 00:41:59,864
and helping them go to the Star Nation

1146
00:41:59,864 --> 00:42:02,204
people. There is absolutely a belief

1147
00:42:02,664 --> 00:42:05,385
that we come back. And, you know, living

1148
00:42:05,385 --> 00:42:06,445
on the reservation,

1149
00:42:07,704 --> 00:42:10,344
it's very hard. People freeze to death every

1150
00:42:10,344 --> 00:42:10,844
winter.

1151
00:42:11,224 --> 00:42:11,465
It's

1152
00:42:12,140 --> 00:42:14,059
you know, where our dream is to build

1153
00:42:14,059 --> 00:42:16,140
a library on the Dene Reservation. We have

1154
00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:18,940
4,500 books, but it's not enough, and it's

1155
00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:19,739
28,000

1156
00:42:19,739 --> 00:42:20,640
miles wide.

1157
00:42:22,380 --> 00:42:24,300
And we know that the current regime is

1158
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,059
going to try to break the treaties because

1159
00:42:26,059 --> 00:42:27,039
they want the resources.

1160
00:42:27,534 --> 00:42:28,594
Already caught them

1161
00:42:28,894 --> 00:42:31,534
trying to dump lithium waste on the Dene

1162
00:42:31,534 --> 00:42:32,034
Reservation

1163
00:42:32,974 --> 00:42:35,155
in a far corner where nobody was.

1164
00:42:35,775 --> 00:42:37,775
And so we had a dream about it,

1165
00:42:37,775 --> 00:42:39,875
and we talked about it with our brothers.

1166
00:42:39,934 --> 00:42:42,280
And now there's a law that no trucks

1167
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,460
can go through the reservation because they wanna

1168
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,500
keep dumping.

1169
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,800
That's why we keep talking about being the

1170
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,519
forgotten people because they wouldn't think of dumping

1171
00:42:50,519 --> 00:42:53,795
it in Washington, DC near near the White

1172
00:42:53,974 --> 00:42:56,594
House or near rich people's homes.

1173
00:42:57,454 --> 00:42:59,554
They think about dumping it where

1174
00:42:59,934 --> 00:43:02,755
it perhaps won't be seen just like

1175
00:43:03,135 --> 00:43:04,355
the original pipeline

1176
00:43:04,655 --> 00:43:05,875
for Standing Rock.

1177
00:43:06,739 --> 00:43:09,079
DAPL was originally supposed to go through Bismarck,

1178
00:43:09,460 --> 00:43:11,460
the capital of North Dakota. And then all

1179
00:43:11,460 --> 00:43:12,199
of a sudden,

1180
00:43:12,739 --> 00:43:13,319
it miraculously

1181
00:43:13,699 --> 00:43:15,940
got changed to go through the water on

1182
00:43:15,940 --> 00:43:16,599
the reservation,

1183
00:43:17,539 --> 00:43:20,500
which would also impact 2,000,000 people further on

1184
00:43:20,500 --> 00:43:21,559
down the Road.

1185
00:43:22,224 --> 00:43:24,164
But as long as it wasn't through Bismarck,

1186
00:43:24,545 --> 00:43:25,204
it was

1187
00:43:25,505 --> 00:43:26,005
okay.

1188
00:43:26,625 --> 00:43:27,684
So it's

1189
00:43:28,065 --> 00:43:30,224
it's happening a lot to the reservations all

1190
00:43:30,224 --> 00:43:30,724
around.

1191
00:43:31,105 --> 00:43:33,905
Logging and ever being paid for the the

1192
00:43:33,905 --> 00:43:35,364
the land that's been taken

1193
00:43:35,664 --> 00:43:36,405
for logging,

1194
00:43:36,909 --> 00:43:38,909
and they never see the money. The government

1195
00:43:38,909 --> 00:43:40,510
has been corrupt for a long time with

1196
00:43:40,510 --> 00:43:42,610
the people. It's just gonna get more corrupt.

1197
00:43:43,309 --> 00:43:44,929
But we need to go through this.

1198
00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:46,909
We need to go through this to wake

1199
00:43:46,909 --> 00:43:47,409
up.

1200
00:43:48,110 --> 00:43:49,869
Some of us don't need to be wake

1201
00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:52,484
woken up. Some of us are more awake,

1202
00:43:52,484 --> 00:43:54,244
but there are many, many more that are

1203
00:43:54,244 --> 00:43:54,984
not awake.

1204
00:43:55,684 --> 00:43:58,644
And what's really exciting is watching all these

1205
00:43:58,644 --> 00:43:59,385
red states,

1206
00:43:59,925 --> 00:44:01,764
people going to town halls and there are

1207
00:44:01,764 --> 00:44:03,464
people being afraid to show up

1208
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,380
and other people going and they're screaming

1209
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:08,059
and they're angry

1210
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,719
because they're gonna have their rights taken away.

1211
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,119
They're gonna lose Medicaid. They're gonna lose Social

1212
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:16,359
Security. They're gonna lose things that they took

1213
00:44:16,359 --> 00:44:17,099
for granted.

1214
00:44:17,454 --> 00:44:19,614
Right. Anyone now can be taken off the

1215
00:44:19,614 --> 00:44:20,514
street. Anyone.

1216
00:44:21,135 --> 00:44:23,135
You don't have to be a gang member.

1217
00:44:23,135 --> 00:44:25,295
It's happening. We've had 20 people from the

1218
00:44:25,295 --> 00:44:26,114
Dene Reservation

1219
00:44:27,135 --> 00:44:28,974
who were picked up and out in, New

1220
00:44:28,974 --> 00:44:30,114
Mexico and

1221
00:44:31,369 --> 00:44:33,610
Arizona who were we don't know where they

1222
00:44:33,610 --> 00:44:34,110
are.

1223
00:44:34,410 --> 00:44:36,429
This happened months and months and months ago

1224
00:44:37,050 --> 00:44:38,969
when they were round when ICE was rounding

1225
00:44:38,969 --> 00:44:39,630
up people.

1226
00:44:40,010 --> 00:44:41,789
We know two people who have

1227
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:44,090
one of the highest clearances you can have

1228
00:44:44,090 --> 00:44:44,910
in the government.

1229
00:44:45,234 --> 00:44:47,255
It's a couple. It's a a friend's

1230
00:44:47,875 --> 00:44:49,734
daughter and son, son-in-law.

1231
00:44:50,594 --> 00:44:52,214
And when they have an Alexa,

1232
00:44:52,835 --> 00:44:55,155
you know, that Alexa thing, we don't we

1233
00:44:55,155 --> 00:44:57,155
don't have one. They have one because they

1234
00:44:57,155 --> 00:44:58,135
like it for music,

1235
00:44:58,530 --> 00:45:00,449
but if they wanna talk, they leave their

1236
00:45:00,449 --> 00:45:02,610
house to talk. They know how dangerous it

1237
00:45:02,610 --> 00:45:04,849
is. Just like the smart TVs, just like

1238
00:45:04,849 --> 00:45:05,590
our computers,

1239
00:45:05,969 --> 00:45:07,349
everything is two way.

1240
00:45:07,650 --> 00:45:09,329
It's very 1984.

1241
00:45:09,329 --> 00:45:12,230
Yes. George Orwell was way before his time.

1242
00:45:12,474 --> 00:45:15,114
All the sci fi writers knew it saw

1243
00:45:15,114 --> 00:45:17,295
something. They all had their little time machines.

1244
00:45:17,755 --> 00:45:18,974
That was the first

1245
00:45:19,434 --> 00:45:22,315
first book we taught. We were given a

1246
00:45:22,315 --> 00:45:25,675
class to teach English of JD children, kids

1247
00:45:25,675 --> 00:45:27,775
who were juvenile delinquents and were

1248
00:45:28,610 --> 00:45:30,789
and we were told what's the curriculum.

1249
00:45:31,890 --> 00:45:33,489
We're just bringing it up because it's a

1250
00:45:33,489 --> 00:45:35,809
funny story. And they said there is no

1251
00:45:35,809 --> 00:45:37,969
curriculum. Just keep them in the room. I

1252
00:45:37,969 --> 00:45:38,789
said, what?

1253
00:45:39,489 --> 00:45:41,650
That doesn't make any sense. So we got

1254
00:45:41,650 --> 00:45:43,844
friendly with another English teacher, and we taught

1255
00:45:44,085 --> 00:45:44,824
George Orwell.

1256
00:45:45,364 --> 00:45:47,704
And we actually had our students

1257
00:45:48,644 --> 00:45:49,144
attacked

1258
00:45:50,005 --> 00:45:52,885
using George Orwell techniques the other class, and

1259
00:45:52,885 --> 00:45:55,045
we had a whole revolt going and taught

1260
00:45:55,045 --> 00:45:57,144
about revolution. It was really wonderful.

1261
00:45:57,769 --> 00:45:59,710
And then they we had sometimes,

1262
00:46:00,170 --> 00:46:02,429
we had police officers come into our

1263
00:46:03,210 --> 00:46:04,429
our room

1264
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:05,789
to collect children.

1265
00:46:06,570 --> 00:46:08,409
And we stood at that door and said,

1266
00:46:08,409 --> 00:46:10,089
you are not allowed in my class. You're

1267
00:46:10,089 --> 00:46:11,230
not on my roster,

1268
00:46:11,735 --> 00:46:13,574
and you're not collecting anyone. If you wanna

1269
00:46:13,574 --> 00:46:14,855
talk to them, you have to talk to

1270
00:46:14,855 --> 00:46:15,835
them after class,

1271
00:46:16,135 --> 00:46:17,335
and you have to go to the main

1272
00:46:17,335 --> 00:46:19,494
office. You cannot just pick people up in

1273
00:46:19,494 --> 00:46:20,474
our room. So

1274
00:46:20,855 --> 00:46:22,315
we're very used to

1275
00:46:22,614 --> 00:46:24,394
standing up The power.

1276
00:46:24,775 --> 00:46:25,675
From young.

1277
00:46:26,119 --> 00:46:29,000
But George Orwell, when we taught ninth grade

1278
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,539
English to those kids,

1279
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,400
George Orwell was the first book we we

1280
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,380
chose to teach.

1281
00:46:35,079 --> 00:46:36,539
What are you working toward,

1282
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,239
in the coming months? What is on your

1283
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:39,739
agenda?

1284
00:46:41,234 --> 00:46:42,694
We're doing a lot of activism

1285
00:46:43,474 --> 00:46:44,694
as much as we can.

1286
00:46:45,234 --> 00:46:47,634
We helped run the women's march in San

1287
00:46:47,634 --> 00:46:48,134
Francisco.

1288
00:46:48,514 --> 00:46:49,654
We were at Tesla

1289
00:46:50,114 --> 00:46:51,654
last weekend for veterans

1290
00:46:52,275 --> 00:46:54,694
because for us, veterans are very, very

1291
00:46:55,170 --> 00:46:56,289
important warriors. It's,

1292
00:46:57,329 --> 00:46:59,889
it's really actually criminal in the Western world.

1293
00:46:59,889 --> 00:47:02,449
In an indigenous world, when a warrior comes

1294
00:47:02,449 --> 00:47:05,089
back, there are special ceremonies that are done

1295
00:47:05,089 --> 00:47:07,969
for them to help them release after killing

1296
00:47:07,969 --> 00:47:10,594
so many people to release the trauma of

1297
00:47:10,594 --> 00:47:12,355
all of that. And they work with them

1298
00:47:12,355 --> 00:47:14,275
for a long time. That's just not one

1299
00:47:14,275 --> 00:47:14,775
ceremony.

1300
00:47:15,315 --> 00:47:16,775
But in the Western world,

1301
00:47:17,315 --> 00:47:18,914
we go and teach them to be killers,

1302
00:47:18,914 --> 00:47:20,434
and then they we expect them to come

1303
00:47:20,434 --> 00:47:22,514
back and be normal and just go about

1304
00:47:22,514 --> 00:47:24,900
life as if nothing has happened. And they're

1305
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:25,800
so traumatized.

1306
00:47:26,339 --> 00:47:28,280
And so many of the veterans are homeless.

1307
00:47:28,579 --> 00:47:30,119
So many veterans are

1308
00:47:30,659 --> 00:47:33,619
have killed themselves. Right? So many veterans are

1309
00:47:33,940 --> 00:47:36,760
Addiction. Right. Addiction. And now

1310
00:47:37,494 --> 00:47:39,414
even being kicked out of the VA because

1311
00:47:39,414 --> 00:47:40,714
they're closing up the VA

1312
00:47:41,414 --> 00:47:44,054
with the current Afrikaner whose name does not

1313
00:47:44,054 --> 00:47:46,614
deserve to be spoken either. It's all gonna

1314
00:47:46,614 --> 00:47:48,934
fall back on them. Just it's all gonna

1315
00:47:48,934 --> 00:47:49,675
fall apart,

1316
00:47:50,180 --> 00:47:51,940
but we have to have patience, and we

1317
00:47:51,940 --> 00:47:53,000
have to keep fighting.

1318
00:47:53,539 --> 00:47:56,440
It's really important. The protests are really important

1319
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:58,099
for all of you who are out there.

1320
00:47:58,099 --> 00:48:00,500
Not everybody's a protester, and that's okay. There's

1321
00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:02,900
lots of ways to help. There's lots of

1322
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:04,980
ways to pray. There's lots of ways to

1323
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:05,474
fight

1324
00:48:05,875 --> 00:48:06,614
the regime.

1325
00:48:07,715 --> 00:48:08,535
But protests

1326
00:48:08,835 --> 00:48:10,215
and being on the streets

1327
00:48:10,835 --> 00:48:11,894
is really important,

1328
00:48:12,195 --> 00:48:14,195
not only for the Republicans, but also for

1329
00:48:14,195 --> 00:48:14,934
the Democrats.

1330
00:48:15,315 --> 00:48:17,095
We would like to tell people about

1331
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:19,989
the five calls that are it's an app

1332
00:48:19,989 --> 00:48:21,289
you can get on your phone

1333
00:48:21,750 --> 00:48:23,429
where they give you the name, you put

1334
00:48:23,429 --> 00:48:24,170
in your,

1335
00:48:24,869 --> 00:48:25,690
ZIP code,

1336
00:48:25,989 --> 00:48:26,489
and

1337
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:29,589
all the people who are your senators and

1338
00:48:29,589 --> 00:48:32,085
congressmen come up with their phone numbers. And

1339
00:48:32,085 --> 00:48:34,085
you call them every day and flood their

1340
00:48:34,085 --> 00:48:34,585
office,

1341
00:48:35,125 --> 00:48:37,364
screaming at them because they're not showing up

1342
00:48:37,364 --> 00:48:37,864
either.

1343
00:48:38,164 --> 00:48:40,344
The Democrat not showing up. So

1344
00:48:40,885 --> 00:48:43,704
let them all be flooded. Let them all

1345
00:48:44,085 --> 00:48:44,905
wake up.

1346
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,160
They are supposed to be there to represent

1347
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:48,660
us,

1348
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:51,440
and they should all be calling Maxine Waters

1349
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,920
is out a lot. Jasmine Crockett's out, and

1350
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:54,900
the two Connecticut,

1351
00:48:55,519 --> 00:48:57,200
people are out. But a lot of the

1352
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,660
other people are not out,

1353
00:48:59,614 --> 00:49:02,335
and they're not fighting vocally. And it's important

1354
00:49:02,335 --> 00:49:04,734
that people see that that's happening. So I

1355
00:49:04,734 --> 00:49:06,594
think it's important to pray.

1356
00:49:07,214 --> 00:49:10,094
We don't realize how much, how many galactic

1357
00:49:10,094 --> 00:49:11,795
beings are here trying to help.

1358
00:49:12,579 --> 00:49:13,319
There really

1359
00:49:14,179 --> 00:49:15,639
are that level of help

1360
00:49:15,940 --> 00:49:17,719
coming from all over the planet,

1361
00:49:18,579 --> 00:49:20,819
and grandmother Earth, there will be a lot

1362
00:49:20,819 --> 00:49:22,280
of disasters that are coming.

1363
00:49:23,619 --> 00:49:26,179
So people need to be prepared because she

1364
00:49:26,179 --> 00:49:27,319
needs to clean herself,

1365
00:49:29,394 --> 00:49:31,094
and she needs to take care of herself.

1366
00:49:31,954 --> 00:49:33,954
And there's a lot of prophecies around all

1367
00:49:33,954 --> 00:49:35,635
of those, but I think, you know, we

1368
00:49:35,635 --> 00:49:38,514
may not wanna There's a Hopi prophecy I've

1369
00:49:38,514 --> 00:49:39,255
heard of

1370
00:49:39,795 --> 00:49:41,815
that augers some pretty

1371
00:49:42,449 --> 00:49:42,949
scary

1372
00:49:43,409 --> 00:49:45,650
things? Well, there's a lot of prophecies that

1373
00:49:45,650 --> 00:49:47,889
that has very scary things. It's not an

1374
00:49:47,889 --> 00:49:50,550
accident that we're in California at this time.

1375
00:49:50,769 --> 00:49:51,750
Let's just say

1376
00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:53,670
creator puts people

1377
00:49:53,969 --> 00:49:55,909
certain places for certain reasons.

1378
00:49:56,605 --> 00:49:58,144
It's important to understand

1379
00:49:58,844 --> 00:50:00,844
that a lot of people in California have

1380
00:50:00,844 --> 00:50:03,244
built homes where home should never have been

1381
00:50:03,244 --> 00:50:03,744
built.

1382
00:50:04,605 --> 00:50:06,204
But it has a a lot to do

1383
00:50:06,204 --> 00:50:07,425
with power and money

1384
00:50:08,445 --> 00:50:09,265
and prestige,

1385
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:11,840
and we're going to be brought to our

1386
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,079
knees in many cases where there's gonna be

1387
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:14,579
volcanoes

1388
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,840
erupting. There'll be a lot more tornadoes. There'll

1389
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:19,440
be earthquakes. There'll be a lot of things

1390
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,260
that are coming,

1391
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:22,579
but we'll all be okay.

1392
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,980
Grandma needs to take care of herself

1393
00:50:25,434 --> 00:50:27,835
because we're also abusing her on a regular

1394
00:50:27,835 --> 00:50:28,335
basis.

1395
00:50:29,594 --> 00:50:31,355
Yes. You know, I wanna talk about one

1396
00:50:31,355 --> 00:50:33,375
story that I think would be very uplifting

1397
00:50:34,474 --> 00:50:36,554
so that people can understand how the spirit

1398
00:50:36,554 --> 00:50:37,694
world works with

1399
00:50:38,554 --> 00:50:39,694
the human world.

1400
00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:42,619
We were asked to go to 09:11 to

1401
00:50:42,619 --> 00:50:43,279
the pit

1402
00:50:44,299 --> 00:50:45,119
to pray.

1403
00:50:45,980 --> 00:50:48,059
We had done four days of walking with

1404
00:50:48,059 --> 00:50:50,299
the dead with several other spiritual leaders at

1405
00:50:50,299 --> 00:50:51,839
our house after 09:11

1406
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:53,039
to help

1407
00:50:54,405 --> 00:50:56,184
walk with the people who were

1408
00:50:56,565 --> 00:50:59,045
leaving in shock after nineeleven, who were stuck

1409
00:50:59,045 --> 00:51:00,025
in the in between.

1410
00:51:01,445 --> 00:51:03,125
And when the spirits asked us to go

1411
00:51:03,125 --> 00:51:05,704
to nineeleven to work in the pit, everyone

1412
00:51:05,844 --> 00:51:06,344
thought

1413
00:51:06,650 --> 00:51:08,570
we were kind of crazy, but that happens

1414
00:51:08,570 --> 00:51:09,630
to us a lot.

1415
00:51:10,090 --> 00:51:11,610
And they said, how are you gonna get

1416
00:51:11,610 --> 00:51:12,989
in? It's a crime scene.

1417
00:51:13,449 --> 00:51:16,010
And I said, I don't know. We don't

1418
00:51:16,010 --> 00:51:16,510
know.

1419
00:51:17,050 --> 00:51:18,750
Spirit's gonna figure it out.

1420
00:51:19,235 --> 00:51:21,715
We just have to decide. We've learned, and

1421
00:51:21,715 --> 00:51:23,554
we're old enough that we've learned that when

1422
00:51:23,554 --> 00:51:26,135
spirit says jump, you just ask how high.

1423
00:51:26,355 --> 00:51:29,094
You don't ask why. You just do it.

1424
00:51:29,715 --> 00:51:30,215
So

1425
00:51:30,994 --> 00:51:32,454
we flew from Colorado

1426
00:51:33,980 --> 00:51:35,039
to New York

1427
00:51:36,299 --> 00:51:37,599
to go to nine eleven.

1428
00:51:38,539 --> 00:51:40,400
What we didn't know is that

1429
00:51:40,780 --> 00:51:42,079
they were selling tickets.

1430
00:51:43,099 --> 00:51:43,839
You know?

1431
00:51:44,219 --> 00:51:46,139
At a certain point, they had started selling

1432
00:51:46,139 --> 00:51:46,639
tickets.

1433
00:51:48,305 --> 00:51:49,925
It was really kind of very bizarre,

1434
00:51:51,825 --> 00:51:52,644
to see,

1435
00:51:54,144 --> 00:51:55,845
but they were still cleaning up.

1436
00:51:56,224 --> 00:51:56,965
And so

1437
00:51:57,585 --> 00:51:59,585
we didn't have a ticket. So we went

1438
00:51:59,585 --> 00:52:01,345
to the police officer who was there collecting

1439
00:52:01,345 --> 00:52:02,710
tickets, and he said, do you have a

1440
00:52:02,710 --> 00:52:04,570
ticket? I said, no. We're here to pray.

1441
00:52:04,869 --> 00:52:06,090
We're here to do something.

1442
00:52:06,550 --> 00:52:08,070
And we asked him to just look in

1443
00:52:08,070 --> 00:52:09,910
our eyes, and we stared at we stared

1444
00:52:09,910 --> 00:52:12,230
at each other and looked very deeply for

1445
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:14,250
a long time, and he said, okay.

1446
00:52:14,789 --> 00:52:15,849
He said, go through.

1447
00:52:16,265 --> 00:52:17,965
He said, you're here to do big work.

1448
00:52:18,025 --> 00:52:19,405
And we went with a friend

1449
00:52:19,785 --> 00:52:21,465
because she couldn't believe we were gonna do

1450
00:52:21,465 --> 00:52:23,545
what we were gonna do. And so we

1451
00:52:23,545 --> 00:52:25,305
went to the head of the National Guard,

1452
00:52:25,305 --> 00:52:26,505
and we said, we need to speak to

1453
00:52:26,505 --> 00:52:29,065
the head of the National Guard. And they

1454
00:52:29,065 --> 00:52:30,585
said, why? I said, because we need to

1455
00:52:30,585 --> 00:52:33,019
go into the pit to help some people.

1456
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,640
And they were like, Nobody goes into the

1457
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,280
pit. They're cleaning. There's a lot going on.

1458
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,340
And I said, Well,

1459
00:52:40,039 --> 00:52:41,739
then we'll sit here and wait.

1460
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:43,579
So

1461
00:52:45,195 --> 00:52:46,795
we sat there, and we were dressed in

1462
00:52:46,795 --> 00:52:47,614
full regalia.

1463
00:52:49,355 --> 00:52:51,275
And there was a man, actually, was a

1464
00:52:51,275 --> 00:52:53,295
fire person who came the first time,

1465
00:52:53,835 --> 00:52:55,595
and he said, you've been here a lot

1466
00:52:55,595 --> 00:52:57,135
of hours. What are you doing,

1467
00:52:57,515 --> 00:52:59,375
and why are you standing here?

1468
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,140
And so we said, Because we're going to

1469
00:53:02,140 --> 00:53:02,640
pray.

1470
00:53:02,940 --> 00:53:04,940
We're here to pray, and we're here to

1471
00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:06,239
help people who are stuck,

1472
00:53:06,619 --> 00:53:07,119
and

1473
00:53:07,579 --> 00:53:08,860
we're going to pray for as long as

1474
00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:10,380
we need to because someone's going to take

1475
00:53:10,380 --> 00:53:11,760
us into the pit at nineeleven.

1476
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:14,320
And he started laughing, and he said,

1477
00:53:14,825 --> 00:53:16,744
whoever tries to take you into the pit

1478
00:53:16,744 --> 00:53:19,005
will lose their job. You can't go there.

1479
00:53:19,305 --> 00:53:21,885
It's against the law. I said, it's okay.

1480
00:53:22,105 --> 00:53:24,345
We're just gonna wait. He said, you could

1481
00:53:24,345 --> 00:53:25,785
be here for a lot of days. I

1482
00:53:25,785 --> 00:53:28,105
said, that's okay. We have fasted for eight

1483
00:53:28,105 --> 00:53:29,885
days a night without food and water.

1484
00:53:30,230 --> 00:53:31,750
We can stand here for a long time.

1485
00:53:31,750 --> 00:53:32,650
We're not afraid.

1486
00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:35,510
So he left. He came back several hours

1487
00:53:35,510 --> 00:53:36,010
later

1488
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:39,369
and said, You're still here. And we said,

1489
00:53:39,750 --> 00:53:41,049
Yeah. We're here

1490
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:42,889
we were sent here

1491
00:53:43,325 --> 00:53:45,644
by the spirits, so we're gonna wait until

1492
00:53:45,644 --> 00:53:47,585
the right person comes to take us

1493
00:53:48,125 --> 00:53:49,425
to where we need to go.

1494
00:53:51,085 --> 00:53:52,385
Couple of hours later,

1495
00:53:52,684 --> 00:53:55,085
the same fire person came back to see

1496
00:53:55,085 --> 00:53:56,305
if we were still there.

1497
00:53:57,339 --> 00:53:57,839
And

1498
00:53:58,219 --> 00:53:59,739
he said, what are you still doing here?

1499
00:53:59,739 --> 00:54:01,260
I said, well, we're gonna be here a

1500
00:54:01,260 --> 00:54:03,579
long time. We're just still praying, and we're

1501
00:54:03,579 --> 00:54:05,179
praying for the right person to come and

1502
00:54:05,179 --> 00:54:05,839
take us.

1503
00:54:07,019 --> 00:54:08,859
He said, you're not gonna get in. I

1504
00:54:08,859 --> 00:54:09,920
said, it's okay.

1505
00:54:11,135 --> 00:54:13,375
Spirit will find a way. Spirit always finds

1506
00:54:13,375 --> 00:54:15,074
a way if they want something done.

1507
00:54:15,775 --> 00:54:18,014
So when he came back the fourth time,

1508
00:54:18,014 --> 00:54:19,875
we had been there all day,

1509
00:54:20,894 --> 00:54:22,355
and it was close to,

1510
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:24,859
what would you say, sundown, I guess.

1511
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:26,859
And he said,

1512
00:54:27,159 --> 00:54:29,480
if we take you, we could lose our

1513
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:31,159
job. I said, we don't want you to

1514
00:54:31,159 --> 00:54:32,139
lose your job.

1515
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:33,500
Don't take us.

1516
00:54:34,119 --> 00:54:36,519
We'll find someone else. It's okay. Someone will

1517
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:37,019
come.

1518
00:54:38,025 --> 00:54:40,844
And he said, you're so determined to help.

1519
00:54:40,984 --> 00:54:43,065
I said, well, that's why we were sent

1520
00:54:43,065 --> 00:54:43,565
here.

1521
00:54:44,344 --> 00:54:45,484
We're here to help.

1522
00:54:46,424 --> 00:54:46,924
So

1523
00:54:47,464 --> 00:54:50,025
he said, if we take you, we have

1524
00:54:50,025 --> 00:54:50,605
to go

1525
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:53,989
back and back ways, and are you good

1526
00:54:53,989 --> 00:54:55,989
at running? And can you hide behind people?

1527
00:54:55,989 --> 00:54:57,849
You're, you know, you're kind of dressed up.

1528
00:54:57,989 --> 00:55:00,090
I said, No problem. No one will notice

1529
00:55:00,469 --> 00:55:00,969
us.

1530
00:55:01,269 --> 00:55:02,949
He said, Would you be willing to take

1531
00:55:02,949 --> 00:55:05,050
the pastor of the church that survived

1532
00:55:05,784 --> 00:55:06,605
the explosion?

1533
00:55:06,985 --> 00:55:09,244
Because he's been wanting to pray as well,

1534
00:55:09,304 --> 00:55:11,244
but he's had no way to go there.

1535
00:55:11,704 --> 00:55:14,605
I said, No problem. Prayer is prayer.

1536
00:55:15,625 --> 00:55:17,965
It's only as true as the heart that's

1537
00:55:18,110 --> 00:55:19,010
saying the prayer.

1538
00:55:19,469 --> 00:55:21,150
So the more the merrier. I said, no.

1539
00:55:21,150 --> 00:55:22,750
No. Not the more the merrier. We'll just

1540
00:55:22,750 --> 00:55:25,170
we'll just take a few people. So

1541
00:55:25,550 --> 00:55:27,710
we wound up running in and out of

1542
00:55:27,710 --> 00:55:29,949
all different ways, going back alleys. It was

1543
00:55:29,949 --> 00:55:30,769
very interesting

1544
00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:33,150
how this fireman took us. His name was

1545
00:55:33,150 --> 00:55:33,650
Misha.

1546
00:55:34,085 --> 00:55:35,784
He's a wonderful human being.

1547
00:55:36,484 --> 00:55:38,404
And we went to a spot where we

1548
00:55:38,404 --> 00:55:39,224
could overlook

1549
00:55:40,164 --> 00:55:41,545
the pit at 09:11,

1550
00:55:41,844 --> 00:55:43,525
and we had brought cedar and sage. And

1551
00:55:43,525 --> 00:55:45,045
he said, no. No. No. No. No. Don't

1552
00:55:45,045 --> 00:55:46,884
take anything out. The FBI is in that

1553
00:55:46,884 --> 00:55:48,744
building. The CIA is in that building.

1554
00:55:49,340 --> 00:55:51,500
All these buildings, you're on camera. I said,

1555
00:55:51,500 --> 00:55:53,519
oh, that's okay. We've been on camera before.

1556
00:55:53,820 --> 00:55:56,480
It's nothing new. I said, we're fine.

1557
00:55:56,860 --> 00:55:57,920
So we sang,

1558
00:55:58,380 --> 00:56:00,780
and we did a traditional song for all

1559
00:56:00,780 --> 00:56:02,320
the people who were stuck

1560
00:56:03,739 --> 00:56:04,559
still there

1561
00:56:06,114 --> 00:56:06,934
in that pit,

1562
00:56:08,595 --> 00:56:09,095
and

1563
00:56:10,434 --> 00:56:12,535
everybody was crying. We were crying,

1564
00:56:13,315 --> 00:56:13,974
and then

1565
00:56:14,275 --> 00:56:16,595
the fireman was crying. And then we said

1566
00:56:16,595 --> 00:56:18,535
to him, we have a message

1567
00:56:19,039 --> 00:56:19,780
for you.

1568
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,320
Now we know why it was you that

1569
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:22,820
came.

1570
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,000
There is a father here that wants to

1571
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:26,900
speak to you.

1572
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,820
You helped his daughter,

1573
00:56:32,815 --> 00:56:36,275
and the fireman fell to the ground.

1574
00:56:37,135 --> 00:56:39,074
He was in such shock.

1575
00:56:39,375 --> 00:56:41,215
And then once he got up from the

1576
00:56:41,215 --> 00:56:42,835
shock and he was sobbing,

1577
00:56:43,295 --> 00:56:44,735
he said, we want to show you something.

1578
00:56:44,735 --> 00:56:46,494
And he took us to a very special

1579
00:56:46,494 --> 00:56:46,994
place

1580
00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:49,099
where he had helped build

1581
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,960
an altar of all broken up materials of

1582
00:56:53,960 --> 00:56:54,460
wood,

1583
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,000
where this little girl got to put up

1584
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:58,380
a picture of her father

1585
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:00,219
on this

1586
00:57:00,744 --> 00:57:03,144
piece of wood and made an altar and

1587
00:57:03,144 --> 00:57:05,085
wrote to her father how much she loved

1588
00:57:05,144 --> 00:57:07,304
him because she had lost him in the

1589
00:57:07,304 --> 00:57:07,804
fire,

1590
00:57:08,105 --> 00:57:08,925
in the nineeleven

1591
00:57:09,784 --> 00:57:10,284
fire.

1592
00:57:11,144 --> 00:57:13,224
And Misha had been the one to make

1593
00:57:13,224 --> 00:57:14,525
the altar for her.

1594
00:57:16,119 --> 00:57:16,940
And so,

1595
00:57:17,559 --> 00:57:19,800
this father wanted to thank him for helping

1596
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:20,619
his daughter.

1597
00:57:21,639 --> 00:57:23,900
So, we want to leave with that

1598
00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:25,260
story because

1599
00:57:25,719 --> 00:57:28,219
that shows how Spirit works

1600
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:29,579
all the time.

1601
00:57:30,405 --> 00:57:31,144
This fireman

1602
00:57:31,684 --> 00:57:33,765
had no idea who we were. We had

1603
00:57:33,765 --> 00:57:36,085
no idea why we were there. That wasn't

1604
00:57:36,085 --> 00:57:37,844
the only thing that we did, but that

1605
00:57:37,844 --> 00:57:39,765
was one thing we could talk about that

1606
00:57:39,765 --> 00:57:40,505
we did.

1607
00:57:40,885 --> 00:57:43,125
So the spirit of the the little girl's

1608
00:57:43,125 --> 00:57:44,265
father's spirit

1609
00:57:44,804 --> 00:57:45,704
told you?

1610
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:47,860
Yeah. He was still stuck.

1611
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,539
Yeah. He told us to please tell Misha

1612
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:54,260
to thank him for helping his daughter.

1613
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:57,440
Wow. And then told Misha to tell the

1614
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:58,820
little girl and her mother

1615
00:57:59,195 --> 00:58:00,795
that he was ready to go, that he

1616
00:58:00,795 --> 00:58:03,195
needed to wait to send that message to

1617
00:58:03,195 --> 00:58:05,215
let them both know he was okay.

1618
00:58:05,755 --> 00:58:06,574
But it's

1619
00:58:07,034 --> 00:58:09,614
but a story like that is so uplifting,

1620
00:58:10,394 --> 00:58:12,655
as brutal as it was also.

1621
00:58:13,650 --> 00:58:15,650
It shows that there is a very thin

1622
00:58:15,650 --> 00:58:18,230
veil between spirit world and human world.

1623
00:58:18,530 --> 00:58:20,710
And we wanted to leave people with that

1624
00:58:21,170 --> 00:58:23,589
understanding that everything we do

1625
00:58:23,969 --> 00:58:26,389
is connected to spirit, everything.

1626
00:58:27,170 --> 00:58:30,005
And there's always a spirit waiting for us.

1627
00:58:30,005 --> 00:58:31,844
As you put out your dream, a spirit

1628
00:58:31,844 --> 00:58:33,684
is waiting to help catch it and help

1629
00:58:33,684 --> 00:58:34,424
it grow.

1630
00:58:35,125 --> 00:58:37,864
We are we are all working on this

1631
00:58:38,164 --> 00:58:39,304
change of

1632
00:58:39,764 --> 00:58:40,264
paradigm

1633
00:58:40,565 --> 00:58:42,820
together from power and greed to one of

1634
00:58:42,820 --> 00:58:44,280
peace and prayer and love.

1635
00:58:44,980 --> 00:58:47,239
And we thought that would be an inspirational

1636
00:58:47,380 --> 00:58:47,880
story

1637
00:58:48,820 --> 00:58:50,119
for people to hear

1638
00:58:50,820 --> 00:58:51,880
because it's something

1639
00:58:52,179 --> 00:58:53,639
that doesn't get advertised.

1640
00:58:54,625 --> 00:58:56,625
And we have a million stories like that,

1641
00:58:56,625 --> 00:58:58,704
so that's why we say miracles are happening

1642
00:58:58,704 --> 00:58:59,605
all the time.

1643
00:59:00,465 --> 00:59:02,864
All the time. But sometimes we just don't

1644
00:59:02,864 --> 00:59:03,844
get to see them.

1645
00:59:04,625 --> 00:59:07,025
So it's important for us sometimes when we

1646
00:59:07,025 --> 00:59:08,785
get to see them and witness them for

1647
00:59:08,785 --> 00:59:09,844
us to share them

1648
00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:13,179
so people can have hope. Do not despair.

1649
00:59:13,239 --> 00:59:14,699
Do not lose hope.

1650
00:59:15,159 --> 00:59:15,980
Giving up

1651
00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:18,059
is the problem.

1652
00:59:18,519 --> 00:59:20,760
And our newsletter that's going out now, if

1653
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:22,679
people wanna join our newsletter, we give it

1654
00:59:22,679 --> 00:59:24,785
out once a month. We also hold an

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00:59:24,785 --> 00:59:27,505
international prayer circle once a month. It used

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00:59:27,505 --> 00:59:29,125
to be every week for two years

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00:59:29,985 --> 00:59:31,905
during the pandemic, but then it got to

1658
00:59:31,905 --> 00:59:33,505
be a little hard to keep that up

1659
00:59:33,505 --> 00:59:34,785
at that pace for two and a half

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00:59:34,785 --> 00:59:37,320
years. So now it's once a month. But

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00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:39,239
it happens the first Thursday of every month.

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00:59:39,239 --> 00:59:40,460
If you go on our website,

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00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:43,880
www.mariamichael.com,

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00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,300
you can sign up for free. It's free

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00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:48,619
because prayer is free,

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00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:49,579
and

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00:59:50,605 --> 00:59:52,305
everybody gets a chance to pray

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00:59:52,765 --> 00:59:55,005
so that everybody prays for whatever everybody else

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00:59:55,005 --> 00:59:55,505
needs,

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00:59:55,965 --> 00:59:57,644
and then we send out a newsletter. You

1671
00:59:57,644 --> 00:59:59,505
can sign up under contact us

1672
00:59:59,805 --> 01:00:01,824
to send a newsletter. There's also a GoFundMe

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01:00:01,965 --> 01:00:02,785
for the reservation.

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01:00:03,179 --> 01:00:04,619
We're gonna put in a plug for the

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01:00:04,619 --> 01:00:06,559
reservation. They need money desperately.

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01:00:07,420 --> 01:00:10,000
They need money for chainsaws, for wood cutting.

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01:00:10,380 --> 01:00:12,460
They need money for gas to go drive

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01:00:12,460 --> 01:00:14,380
a hundred miles to take wood to elders

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01:00:14,380 --> 01:00:15,039
and veterans

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01:00:15,659 --> 01:00:16,275
that live

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01:00:16,914 --> 01:00:18,994
off, you know, on dirt roads far away

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01:00:18,994 --> 01:00:20,054
from main cities.

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01:00:21,474 --> 01:00:23,795
We're gonna be doing an, if people are

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01:00:23,795 --> 01:00:26,355
interested, we're doing a benefit with a wonderful

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01:00:26,355 --> 01:00:27,894
group called Emma's Revolution,

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01:00:29,329 --> 01:00:30,390
two incredible

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01:00:30,769 --> 01:00:31,670
women activists

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01:00:32,050 --> 01:00:33,909
who have been singing for twenty years,

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01:00:34,210 --> 01:00:36,369
and they're doing a documentary on them as

1690
01:00:36,369 --> 01:00:39,010
well. We will do a traditional song live

1691
01:00:39,010 --> 01:00:41,090
for the first time in public that will

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01:00:41,090 --> 01:00:41,590
be,

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01:00:42,050 --> 01:00:43,255
what do you call, videotaped

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01:00:43,715 --> 01:00:45,015
cam you know, on the camera,

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01:00:45,795 --> 01:00:46,295
because

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01:00:46,914 --> 01:00:47,735
it's time.

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01:00:48,195 --> 01:00:50,675
It's time for everyone to open up and

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01:00:50,675 --> 01:00:52,994
be of service. And so they've asked us

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01:00:52,994 --> 01:00:55,414
to open to do the land acknowledgement,

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01:00:56,035 --> 01:00:58,539
to do the opening prayer and closing prayer.

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01:00:58,539 --> 01:00:59,599
We're gonna give out

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01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:02,159
flyers for the reservation for GoFundMe.

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01:01:02,780 --> 01:01:04,460
And if you look on our website, there's

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01:01:04,460 --> 01:01:06,400
a sign for the GoFundMe as well.

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01:01:06,699 --> 01:01:08,699
It says we have $84,000.

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01:01:08,699 --> 01:01:10,159
That's what we have gone

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01:01:10,539 --> 01:01:11,359
and earned

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01:01:12,085 --> 01:01:13,684
and all you know, but it's all gone

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01:01:13,684 --> 01:01:14,824
out. It's all away.

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01:01:15,285 --> 01:01:17,684
And this year, we had over 10 people

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01:01:17,684 --> 01:01:19,625
die and freeze to death on the reservation,

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01:01:20,005 --> 01:01:21,065
on one reservation.

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01:01:22,324 --> 01:01:23,465
So we need help.

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01:01:24,449 --> 01:01:27,109
We need help. So visit our website and

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01:01:27,570 --> 01:01:29,989
help someone. Remember, we are all privileged.

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01:01:30,289 --> 01:01:32,469
If you're listening to this, you're privileged.

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01:01:34,289 --> 01:01:36,230
Find a way to help someone who isn't.

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01:01:36,695 --> 01:01:38,855
For those of you who are local, we

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01:01:38,855 --> 01:01:40,775
live in San Rafael. We are looking for

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01:01:40,775 --> 01:01:42,315
someone to donate land

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01:01:42,614 --> 01:01:44,394
so that we can have a sweat lodge

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01:01:44,775 --> 01:01:47,755
so that everyone can come and pray together,

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01:01:48,135 --> 01:01:51,114
whether they are binary, non binary, two spirit,

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01:01:51,750 --> 01:01:52,489
all people

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01:01:53,349 --> 01:01:55,349
we are all one family. So if you

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01:01:55,349 --> 01:01:56,949
know if people have land where we could

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01:01:56,949 --> 01:01:59,030
have a sweat lodge because people need a

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01:01:59,030 --> 01:02:01,210
place to pray, we left waters behind

1729
01:02:01,510 --> 01:02:02,090
in Colorado,

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01:02:02,869 --> 01:02:04,250
and we miss it greatly.

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01:02:05,175 --> 01:02:06,775
So you are welcome to come pray with

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01:02:06,775 --> 01:02:09,015
us, whoever you are. Help us find the

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01:02:09,015 --> 01:02:10,855
land. Is it a land that would need

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01:02:10,855 --> 01:02:12,535
to be permanent? No. It doesn't need to

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01:02:12,535 --> 01:02:13,974
be permanent. It just could be on a

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01:02:13,974 --> 01:02:15,655
farm. Yeah. They've we've usually had them on

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01:02:15,655 --> 01:02:16,934
a farm. We used to have one in

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01:02:16,934 --> 01:02:17,594
our backyard,

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01:02:18,215 --> 01:02:20,235
but we had more land at that time.

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01:02:20,519 --> 01:02:22,840
But now now we've been using farms and

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01:02:22,840 --> 01:02:25,159
other places, and we have a special thing

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01:02:25,159 --> 01:02:27,480
that was created by a welder who donated

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01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:29,019
it, who was a sundancer

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01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,219
at one time, so that no no embers

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01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:33,179
can go out,

1746
01:02:33,724 --> 01:02:35,885
so that the fire is completely contained in

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01:02:35,885 --> 01:02:38,144
all four corners by this metal structure

1748
01:02:38,445 --> 01:02:41,344
that was all made from scraps and recycled

1749
01:02:41,644 --> 01:02:43,344
because we were all into recycling.

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01:02:43,885 --> 01:02:44,625
And so

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01:02:45,164 --> 01:02:47,639
the fire is kept alive in a teepee

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01:02:47,639 --> 01:02:50,380
style inside that four cornered box

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01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:51,819
with four flues,

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01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:55,079
so no embers can go and catch anything

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01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:55,819
on fire.

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01:02:56,280 --> 01:02:56,780
So

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01:02:57,719 --> 01:02:59,800
we did that in Colorado. It's waiting on

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01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:01,639
that man's land, and it just needs to

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01:03:01,639 --> 01:03:03,744
have someone drive it out. But they we

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01:03:03,744 --> 01:03:05,425
can't drive it out because we have nowhere

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01:03:05,425 --> 01:03:07,585
to store it. Okay. So the the call

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01:03:07,585 --> 01:03:09,364
is the if there is someone

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01:03:09,664 --> 01:03:11,525
around San Rafael, California

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01:03:11,905 --> 01:03:12,405
that

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01:03:12,864 --> 01:03:13,925
has land

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01:03:14,304 --> 01:03:15,525
that this can happen?

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01:03:16,065 --> 01:03:18,429
In an hour from here would be great.

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01:03:18,429 --> 01:03:20,929
And, reach out to either myself or to

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01:03:21,150 --> 01:03:24,429
doctor Michael, and let's make this happen. That

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01:03:24,429 --> 01:03:25,410
would be heaven.

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01:03:25,869 --> 01:03:28,769
Let's all pray together. Wouldn't that be miraculous?

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01:03:30,585 --> 01:03:32,744
Sometimes we feel when we're praying, people have

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01:03:32,744 --> 01:03:33,724
said in the past,

1774
01:03:34,184 --> 01:03:35,724
that it feels like the Inipi,

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01:03:36,105 --> 01:03:37,864
which is a sweat lodge, is lifting off

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01:03:37,864 --> 01:03:40,204
the ground because it has its own life.

1777
01:03:40,585 --> 01:03:42,844
You know, it's all made with natural materials,

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01:03:43,610 --> 01:03:45,449
and so it's all part of the earth.

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01:03:45,449 --> 01:03:47,369
And it's such a wonderful thing to be

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01:03:47,369 --> 01:03:49,469
a part of to make one from scratch

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01:03:50,090 --> 01:03:52,670
with all different races. It's just

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01:03:53,130 --> 01:03:53,869
so incredible.

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01:03:54,409 --> 01:03:56,925
Let's get it going. We're ready. We are

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01:03:56,925 --> 01:03:58,625
past ready. In the meantime,

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01:03:59,085 --> 01:04:01,005
we are doing ceremonies in Muir Woods. We've

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01:04:01,005 --> 01:04:02,864
been given permission for those who

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01:04:03,324 --> 01:04:04,144
want prayer,

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01:04:04,445 --> 01:04:06,625
and we go to Lemon Tower a lot

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01:04:07,005 --> 01:04:07,905
to do prayer.

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01:04:08,445 --> 01:04:09,985
I love it. So you do,

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01:04:10,605 --> 01:04:11,105
personal

1792
01:04:11,670 --> 01:04:13,349
help for people, and then you do these

1793
01:04:13,349 --> 01:04:16,170
group things, and people can find you doctor

1794
01:04:16,309 --> 01:04:17,530
maria michael

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01:04:18,469 --> 01:04:19,210
dot com.

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01:04:19,989 --> 01:04:20,489
Yes.

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01:04:20,949 --> 01:04:24,809
There are testimonials from doctors, spiritual leaders,

1798
01:04:25,429 --> 01:04:26,569
all kinds of doctors,

1799
01:04:27,155 --> 01:04:28,914
all kinds of clients. We have so many

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01:04:28,914 --> 01:04:30,594
more that we haven't put on just because

1801
01:04:30,594 --> 01:04:32,594
we haven't had the time to put them

1802
01:04:32,594 --> 01:04:33,094
on.

1803
01:04:33,554 --> 01:04:34,054
But

1804
01:04:34,675 --> 01:04:36,755
at least it helps you see because everybody

1805
01:04:36,755 --> 01:04:39,234
has a completely different experience because every human

1806
01:04:39,234 --> 01:04:39,894
is different.

1807
01:04:41,179 --> 01:04:44,159
Right. That's good. Testimonials are good, I think.

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01:04:44,460 --> 01:04:47,099
So have a peek. There's also interviews on

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01:04:47,099 --> 01:04:49,099
there. We would like a copy of this

1810
01:04:49,099 --> 01:04:51,099
interview to get it on so that we

1811
01:04:51,099 --> 01:04:52,559
can add that onto the website.

1812
01:04:53,235 --> 01:04:55,235
And it's just about having the time to

1813
01:04:55,235 --> 01:04:56,755
do all this stuff in between all the

1814
01:04:56,755 --> 01:04:58,375
protests. Thank you, grandmother.

1815
01:04:59,715 --> 01:05:01,414
Thank you so much, Susan,

1816
01:05:01,715 --> 01:05:04,434
for this opportunity to be with you, to

1817
01:05:04,434 --> 01:05:06,115
share with you, and to share with your

1818
01:05:06,115 --> 01:05:06,570
people.

1819
01:05:07,289 --> 01:05:09,690
And people feel free to reach us by

1820
01:05:09,690 --> 01:05:10,190
email

1821
01:05:10,570 --> 01:05:12,969
on our website. Our email is there. If

1822
01:05:12,969 --> 01:05:15,070
you have questions or answers or

1823
01:05:15,530 --> 01:05:17,869
please get out the word about our work,

1824
01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:18,910
about

1825
01:05:20,094 --> 01:05:22,195
getting out on the the roads.

1826
01:05:22,894 --> 01:05:24,574
Boots on the ground is what we call

1827
01:05:24,574 --> 01:05:25,074
it.

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01:05:25,454 --> 01:05:28,255
That's right. And I'll put links on heyhumanpodcast.com

1829
01:05:28,255 --> 01:05:29,934
as well to make it easier in case

1830
01:05:29,934 --> 01:05:30,434
people

1831
01:05:30,735 --> 01:05:32,574
don't remember or can't figure out how to

1832
01:05:32,574 --> 01:05:34,015
get to you. That that will be a

1833
01:05:34,015 --> 01:05:37,059
way also. Thank you for listening, everybody. Thank

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01:05:37,059 --> 01:05:39,940
you for listening, everyone. Bye. Have a blessed

1835
01:05:39,940 --> 01:05:40,840
day. Bye.

1836
01:05:44,340 --> 01:05:47,079
Rate, review, and subscribe to Hey Human wherever

1837
01:05:47,139 --> 01:05:49,079
you get your podcasts. Thanks.

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01:05:49,734 --> 01:05:50,234
Bye.