1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,619 Hey, humans. How's it going? 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,480 Susan Ruth here. Thanks for listening to another 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:12,980 episode 4 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:14,900 of Hey, Human podcast. 5 00:00:15,815 --> 00:00:17,734 This is episode 452, 6 00:00:17,734 --> 00:00:19,914 and my guest is Jane Shnazi. 7 00:00:20,695 --> 00:00:22,855 When Jane was in her early twenties, her 8 00:00:22,855 --> 00:00:25,275 little brother was diagnosed with a rare cancer. 9 00:00:26,214 --> 00:00:28,774 She speaks to how this changed her life 10 00:00:28,774 --> 00:00:30,989 and prompted her to create her foundation Hub 11 00:00:30,989 --> 00:00:33,649 Back, which makes socially and environmentally 12 00:00:34,189 --> 00:00:35,170 engaged films, 13 00:00:35,469 --> 00:00:38,929 including Tiger's Boxer, inspired by her brother's struggle 14 00:00:38,989 --> 00:00:40,129 against all odds. 15 00:00:40,670 --> 00:00:42,909 Really lovely talking with Jane. She's in the 16 00:00:42,909 --> 00:00:43,809 process of 17 00:00:44,185 --> 00:00:45,325 putting it all together, 18 00:00:45,704 --> 00:00:48,984 and it's it's for such a good cause 19 00:00:48,984 --> 00:00:51,484 and supportive of such an important message. 20 00:00:52,185 --> 00:00:54,024 I'm really, honored to have her on the 21 00:00:54,024 --> 00:00:56,825 show. Check out heyhumanpodcast.com 22 00:00:56,825 --> 00:00:58,425 for links and to learn more about my 23 00:00:58,425 --> 00:01:01,590 guests and the show. 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And here we go. 37 00:01:31,409 --> 00:01:33,509 Jane Shanaze, welcome to 38 00:01:33,810 --> 00:01:34,549 Hey Human. 39 00:01:34,849 --> 00:01:35,670 Thank you. 40 00:01:36,290 --> 00:01:37,590 It's nice to see you. 41 00:01:38,450 --> 00:01:39,269 You too. 42 00:01:40,034 --> 00:01:42,594 Let's jump right in. Tell me, did you 43 00:01:42,754 --> 00:01:44,834 where did you grow up? Tell me what 44 00:01:44,834 --> 00:01:46,295 shaped you when you were young. 45 00:01:47,075 --> 00:01:48,935 Oh, so I was born in San Francisco, 46 00:01:48,995 --> 00:01:50,834 and then I came to France when I 47 00:01:50,834 --> 00:01:52,900 was two years and a half. And I 48 00:01:52,900 --> 00:01:55,959 arrived in, Paris. It was really really cold 49 00:01:56,340 --> 00:01:58,579 and my parents didn't like it so I 50 00:01:58,579 --> 00:02:01,000 went to the South and what 51 00:02:01,299 --> 00:02:04,180 built me really was the trees, the animals. 52 00:02:04,180 --> 00:02:06,040 I was always surrounded by nature 53 00:02:06,420 --> 00:02:06,920 and, 54 00:02:08,205 --> 00:02:10,865 then my dad recycles so I always have 55 00:02:11,004 --> 00:02:13,824 a awareness of, taking care of the environment 56 00:02:14,044 --> 00:02:14,544 and, 57 00:02:15,245 --> 00:02:16,705 I didn't never understand, 58 00:02:17,724 --> 00:02:20,125 you know, the big cities and how can 59 00:02:20,125 --> 00:02:21,824 people live in the big cities. 60 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,080 Because if we don't have nature, it's very 61 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,139 difficult to reconnect, 62 00:02:26,519 --> 00:02:29,180 I find. I always wanted to say stories, 63 00:02:29,479 --> 00:02:31,319 and give the voice to the animals and 64 00:02:31,319 --> 00:02:33,400 the trees, and I used my imagination a 65 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:35,974 lot as a kid surrounded by nature. First 66 00:02:35,974 --> 00:02:37,655 I wanted to write and then I said 67 00:02:37,655 --> 00:02:39,034 oh we can make images, 68 00:02:39,415 --> 00:02:42,294 of what we write, which is something that 69 00:02:42,294 --> 00:02:44,055 I really didn't know and the first time 70 00:02:44,055 --> 00:02:46,134 I went to the cinema I saw a 71 00:02:46,134 --> 00:02:48,534 movie called Croblanc. It's the story of this 72 00:02:48,534 --> 00:02:51,319 white wolf. It's a very big movie. And 73 00:02:51,319 --> 00:02:53,580 so this made me want to to show, 74 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,300 what I had in my head through images. 75 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,080 And since then, I never changed my mind, 76 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:00,060 which is crazy. 77 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,680 You've been a filmmaker the whole time or 78 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:03,260 a storyteller? 79 00:03:04,254 --> 00:03:06,254 I wanted to be a filmmaker since I'm, 80 00:03:06,254 --> 00:03:08,254 like, seven years old. It takes a lot 81 00:03:08,254 --> 00:03:08,995 of time. 82 00:03:09,455 --> 00:03:11,455 I thought that by 30 years old, I 83 00:03:11,455 --> 00:03:12,514 would, you know, be, 84 00:03:13,134 --> 00:03:13,634 already 85 00:03:14,014 --> 00:03:17,055 confirmed and recognized as a director. But, you 86 00:03:17,055 --> 00:03:19,469 know, when you're a blonde lady at twenty 87 00:03:19,469 --> 00:03:21,789 twenty four you're asking producers if they are 88 00:03:21,789 --> 00:03:24,189 interested in reading your script and if you 89 00:03:24,189 --> 00:03:26,909 don't know anyone people just like yeah no 90 00:03:26,909 --> 00:03:28,669 we don't have time for you, you're just 91 00:03:28,669 --> 00:03:30,370 a blonde young girl, 92 00:03:31,069 --> 00:03:33,444 how can we trust someone like her And 93 00:03:33,444 --> 00:03:35,604 so I never had the chance to really 94 00:03:35,604 --> 00:03:38,344 have funding for any projects that I've written. 95 00:03:38,564 --> 00:03:41,125 So I decided to start making documentaries and 96 00:03:41,125 --> 00:03:44,084 filming my friends doing humanitarian jobs. I went 97 00:03:44,084 --> 00:03:45,764 all around the world to film them and 98 00:03:45,764 --> 00:03:49,290 gathered some money from sustainable brands. I had 99 00:03:49,290 --> 00:03:51,370 the chance to find TV channels because I 100 00:03:51,370 --> 00:03:53,229 was an editor for TV channels 101 00:03:53,610 --> 00:03:55,370 and they all said, oh, let's show me 102 00:03:55,370 --> 00:03:57,610 your pilots and everything. So I showed and 103 00:03:57,610 --> 00:03:59,050 they were like, it's very good. We want 104 00:03:59,050 --> 00:04:00,330 to buy it, but you need to find 105 00:04:00,330 --> 00:04:00,909 a producer. 106 00:04:01,215 --> 00:04:02,435 So I found the producer 107 00:04:02,814 --> 00:04:04,655 and I did in two years, eight times 108 00:04:04,655 --> 00:04:06,574 fifty two minutes for a series called the 109 00:04:06,574 --> 00:04:07,314 hope bearers. 110 00:04:08,014 --> 00:04:10,894 And then I, my brother was diagnosed with 111 00:04:10,894 --> 00:04:11,394 cancer 112 00:04:12,014 --> 00:04:13,935 and it hurts me to the bone to 113 00:04:13,935 --> 00:04:16,415 see a new world with children, sick between 114 00:04:16,415 --> 00:04:17,160 life and death. 115 00:04:17,639 --> 00:04:19,879 My brother was 15, so he was still 116 00:04:19,879 --> 00:04:21,720 with all the other kids, but he was 117 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,360 a teenager. So the clown didn't make him 118 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,600 laugh. And it was lacking of, you know, 119 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:29,500 activities to really think about something else than 120 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,860 disease and sadness and death. 121 00:04:33,214 --> 00:04:35,555 So we had to bring a massage, yoga, 122 00:04:35,694 --> 00:04:36,835 music, lavender, 123 00:04:37,775 --> 00:04:38,675 all the kinds 124 00:04:39,134 --> 00:04:41,375 of any anything that you can have in 125 00:04:41,375 --> 00:04:43,295 mind and then I built a non profit 126 00:04:43,295 --> 00:04:45,154 with my mum to bring boxing 127 00:04:45,455 --> 00:04:47,074 and meditation in hospitals 128 00:04:47,579 --> 00:04:48,959 since 02/2015 129 00:04:49,419 --> 00:04:51,579 and it really changed a lot. I received, 130 00:04:51,740 --> 00:04:53,819 two days ago a letter, of thank you 131 00:04:53,819 --> 00:04:56,240 from the hospital, La Croix du Maranci. 132 00:04:57,019 --> 00:04:58,540 And I tried to do the same here 133 00:04:58,540 --> 00:04:59,360 in the South 134 00:04:59,660 --> 00:05:02,220 and, with the movie that I'm preparing the 135 00:05:02,220 --> 00:05:05,074 feature film, I really want now to give 136 00:05:05,074 --> 00:05:07,475 a profit to the nonprofit in France that 137 00:05:07,475 --> 00:05:10,115 I have and show the movie to all 138 00:05:10,115 --> 00:05:12,675 the hospitals and the schools to build awareness 139 00:05:12,675 --> 00:05:15,254 around the subject that is unknown and unfortunately 140 00:05:15,795 --> 00:05:16,535 and unfortunately. 141 00:05:17,399 --> 00:05:19,240 How old were you when your brother was 142 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:19,740 diagnosed? 143 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:20,860 I was 144 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:23,160 26, 145 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,560 and he was 15. He's twelve years younger 146 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:27,319 than me, so I love him like my 147 00:05:27,319 --> 00:05:30,040 son, let's say. I have another brother who's 148 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:31,180 an actor, Robbie, 149 00:05:31,534 --> 00:05:34,175 and a sister seven years old, older than 150 00:05:34,175 --> 00:05:34,995 me, Sonya. 151 00:05:35,694 --> 00:05:38,495 And Alex was, you know, full of hope. 152 00:05:38,495 --> 00:05:40,974 And I mean, he's still now he's alive. 153 00:05:40,974 --> 00:05:42,435 He thank God he survived. 154 00:05:43,134 --> 00:05:44,735 He's one of the kids who took the 155 00:05:44,735 --> 00:05:47,709 most chemo in, in the entire planet. 156 00:05:48,250 --> 00:05:51,069 So, you know, his hair don't grow anymore 157 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:54,889 and he he's dying. He's, sterile. Apparently he 158 00:05:54,889 --> 00:05:57,050 can not have kids for now, but it, 159 00:05:57,050 --> 00:05:58,970 you know, the body cells change every seven 160 00:05:58,970 --> 00:06:01,064 years. So maybe it will change And he 161 00:06:01,064 --> 00:06:02,204 still does a 162 00:06:02,745 --> 00:06:05,404 transfusion every week of, EGG, 163 00:06:06,425 --> 00:06:08,985 EGG for the immune system to go up 164 00:06:08,985 --> 00:06:10,764 because the chemo really 165 00:06:11,464 --> 00:06:11,964 affected 166 00:06:12,345 --> 00:06:13,884 his, immune system. 167 00:06:14,599 --> 00:06:16,860 What kind of cancer was he diagnosed with? 168 00:06:16,919 --> 00:06:18,699 He had the Burkitt lymphoma. 169 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:20,759 So it's, between the bone and the blood, 170 00:06:20,759 --> 00:06:23,079 it's the lymphoma. And, it is one of 171 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:25,079 the cancer that is the fastest and the 172 00:06:25,079 --> 00:06:27,479 most aggressive cancer. And my brother was a 173 00:06:27,479 --> 00:06:28,599 boxer, so, 174 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,375 as soon as the the doctor said, oh, 175 00:06:31,595 --> 00:06:33,995 you maybe you have to lose him. I 176 00:06:33,995 --> 00:06:35,835 couldn't live with that sentence and I said, 177 00:06:35,835 --> 00:06:37,134 cannot say that my brother 178 00:06:37,514 --> 00:06:40,014 will probably die because you are not God 179 00:06:40,154 --> 00:06:41,855 and my brother will survive. 180 00:06:42,555 --> 00:06:43,959 So can you please, 181 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:45,879 always talk in a positive way to him 182 00:06:45,879 --> 00:06:46,939 and all the other kids, 183 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:49,159 which she did, and I came in the 184 00:06:49,159 --> 00:06:51,500 hospital when he to build, 185 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:54,439 a boxing ring and stuff. So my brother 186 00:06:54,439 --> 00:06:56,415 was boxing every day when he could 187 00:06:56,895 --> 00:06:59,375 and putting rap music and stuff who will, 188 00:06:59,375 --> 00:06:59,955 you know, 189 00:07:00,415 --> 00:07:03,074 strengthen his mental, his spirit towards surviving 190 00:07:04,175 --> 00:07:04,915 and positive, 191 00:07:06,415 --> 00:07:08,754 energy. So now he's good. 192 00:07:09,455 --> 00:07:12,389 He's still boxing, and I promised him that 193 00:07:13,430 --> 00:07:15,910 I was gonna make a movie about what's 194 00:07:15,910 --> 00:07:18,069 happening for him and give an example to 195 00:07:18,069 --> 00:07:20,310 all the other families and kids who are 196 00:07:20,310 --> 00:07:21,770 experiencing the same thing. 197 00:07:22,230 --> 00:07:24,230 And so I did a short movie who 198 00:07:24,230 --> 00:07:25,689 did who had some prices 199 00:07:26,585 --> 00:07:28,605 and who will also be probably, 200 00:07:29,785 --> 00:07:30,685 with Eoflix, 201 00:07:31,545 --> 00:07:34,105 on at the cinema. Then we also did 202 00:07:34,105 --> 00:07:36,345 a documentary that was broadcast at the Ministry 203 00:07:36,345 --> 00:07:38,045 of Culture and Health for three months. 204 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:39,959 And then now I need to do the 205 00:07:39,959 --> 00:07:41,879 feature because when you do a promise, you 206 00:07:41,879 --> 00:07:42,699 are in-depth. 207 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,660 So, my debt is to fulfill 208 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:47,259 my, my promise. 209 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,500 And, my brother is really, really 210 00:07:50,199 --> 00:07:51,959 excited to see the movie. So we are 211 00:07:51,959 --> 00:07:52,459 advancing 212 00:07:52,985 --> 00:07:54,605 slowly but surely and, 213 00:07:55,785 --> 00:07:58,665 voila. I'm glad that he's still with us. 214 00:07:58,665 --> 00:07:59,485 That's wonderful. 215 00:07:59,865 --> 00:08:00,845 Yes. Me too. 216 00:08:02,665 --> 00:08:06,204 To me, when children are diagnosed with cancer, 217 00:08:06,709 --> 00:08:08,810 the people around them get to experience 218 00:08:09,430 --> 00:08:10,730 something quite extraordinary. 219 00:08:11,270 --> 00:08:13,509 I think when when adults get diagnosed with 220 00:08:13,509 --> 00:08:14,089 a sickness, 221 00:08:14,470 --> 00:08:15,610 there is a defeatist 222 00:08:16,230 --> 00:08:18,949 mentality that oftentimes comes with that. It's hard 223 00:08:18,949 --> 00:08:19,850 to stay positive. 224 00:08:20,464 --> 00:08:22,225 The kids see the world in such a 225 00:08:22,225 --> 00:08:23,285 different way. 226 00:08:23,904 --> 00:08:26,625 Exactly. They don't, suffer in the same way 227 00:08:26,625 --> 00:08:29,605 as adults would. They want sweets, candies, and 228 00:08:29,745 --> 00:08:30,485 they even 229 00:08:30,865 --> 00:08:32,945 don't like hospitals most of the time, so 230 00:08:32,945 --> 00:08:35,129 they wanna go out. I had a kid 231 00:08:35,289 --> 00:08:36,970 who really wanted to go to Disney with 232 00:08:36,970 --> 00:08:38,350 his parents, and, 233 00:08:38,809 --> 00:08:40,490 she did. She went out. She went all 234 00:08:40,490 --> 00:08:42,750 day to Disney. But when she came back, 235 00:08:43,210 --> 00:08:45,610 the doctor said it's unbelievable because I don't 236 00:08:45,610 --> 00:08:48,669 know how she walked. Her bone was completely, 237 00:08:49,975 --> 00:08:50,475 turned 238 00:08:50,774 --> 00:08:53,654 and, a normal human being would not be 239 00:08:53,654 --> 00:08:55,595 able to walk. But she 240 00:08:55,975 --> 00:08:57,735 she's so used to pain because she was 241 00:08:57,735 --> 00:08:58,695 in the hospital since, 242 00:08:59,335 --> 00:09:02,375 probably six months. And, she grew up in 243 00:09:02,375 --> 00:09:05,490 the hospital because she had a immune disease 244 00:09:05,950 --> 00:09:06,589 and so 245 00:09:07,309 --> 00:09:08,769 her body she 246 00:09:10,429 --> 00:09:11,950 she wants to live so much and to 247 00:09:11,950 --> 00:09:14,269 have fun so much that she she doesn't 248 00:09:14,269 --> 00:09:16,190 take care of the pain she she just 249 00:09:16,190 --> 00:09:18,284 wants to be like other kids So she's 250 00:09:18,284 --> 00:09:21,264 stronger actually than adults. Adults has tendency to, 251 00:09:21,485 --> 00:09:22,304 oh my god, 252 00:09:23,085 --> 00:09:25,404 dramatize everything. Kids are like, okay, it's a 253 00:09:25,404 --> 00:09:27,884 world. And so what? Let's focus on the 254 00:09:27,884 --> 00:09:30,865 positive side. And they wanna play. They wanna 255 00:09:32,269 --> 00:09:34,129 live life as much as possible. 256 00:09:34,750 --> 00:09:35,250 Absolutely. 257 00:09:36,350 --> 00:09:38,029 We like I said, we could learn a 258 00:09:38,029 --> 00:09:40,929 lot from the way kids handle disease. Yeah. 259 00:09:41,950 --> 00:09:44,590 And I think attitude is a great part 260 00:09:44,590 --> 00:09:45,250 of healing. 261 00:09:45,934 --> 00:09:47,955 So it it makes sense that 262 00:09:48,815 --> 00:09:49,315 incorporating 263 00:09:49,774 --> 00:09:51,534 those sorts of programs, like you said, you 264 00:09:51,534 --> 00:09:54,495 brought the boxing in and and the the 265 00:09:54,495 --> 00:09:56,115 talking to the doctor about 266 00:09:56,975 --> 00:09:59,634 being positive, being happy, being uplifting 267 00:10:00,309 --> 00:10:02,710 makes a huge difference, and the brain believes 268 00:10:02,710 --> 00:10:04,550 what you tell it. The brain believes what 269 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:05,529 you tell it. Even, 270 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:06,809 a very famous 271 00:10:07,269 --> 00:10:08,570 in France told me, 272 00:10:09,350 --> 00:10:10,230 art and, 273 00:10:11,029 --> 00:10:14,570 and, sport and any activity that will 274 00:10:15,105 --> 00:10:17,825 give you strength to live will heal you 275 00:10:17,825 --> 00:10:20,144 better than chemo, better than anything. It is 276 00:10:20,144 --> 00:10:23,024 first you and yourself, how you you take 277 00:10:23,024 --> 00:10:25,024 away all the negative and you focus on 278 00:10:25,024 --> 00:10:25,684 the positive 279 00:10:26,384 --> 00:10:29,125 that will condition your body to survive 280 00:10:29,504 --> 00:10:30,644 and go through everything. 281 00:10:31,399 --> 00:10:33,639 Yeah. I really believe that for sure. Tell 282 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,720 me about the movie. So it's the premise 283 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,019 that I did to my brother. 284 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:39,639 I did this short, like I said, and 285 00:10:39,639 --> 00:10:41,100 then it was really, really, 286 00:10:41,639 --> 00:10:44,504 long process to write something that is universal 287 00:10:44,565 --> 00:10:47,125 because of course, each family is different and 288 00:10:47,125 --> 00:10:47,865 how to bring 289 00:10:48,325 --> 00:10:50,245 the three years of experience I had with 290 00:10:50,245 --> 00:10:52,565 my brother and my family into one single 291 00:10:52,565 --> 00:10:54,665 story that could touch the entire 292 00:10:56,170 --> 00:10:58,590 planet, cultures, different countries. 293 00:10:59,129 --> 00:11:01,550 So I'm doing it in English, America. 294 00:11:02,570 --> 00:11:04,649 Maybe we're gonna shoot in Portugal. Maybe we're 295 00:11:04,649 --> 00:11:06,649 gonna shoot in London. Maybe we're gonna shoot 296 00:11:06,649 --> 00:11:08,514 in The US. We still don't know. With 297 00:11:08,514 --> 00:11:09,495 David Ornstein, 298 00:11:10,034 --> 00:11:10,774 we really, 299 00:11:11,714 --> 00:11:14,195 saw the script since a couple of months. 300 00:11:14,195 --> 00:11:16,855 He helped me to build something more powerful 301 00:11:17,235 --> 00:11:20,034 and, to find people who could give advice 302 00:11:20,034 --> 00:11:21,660 that I, with my, 303 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:25,179 my step back my eyes, I couldn't on 304 00:11:25,179 --> 00:11:26,879 my own. It's impossible. So, 305 00:11:27,820 --> 00:11:30,059 I found a great team around me and 306 00:11:30,059 --> 00:11:30,860 now we have, 307 00:11:31,500 --> 00:11:32,960 well now we have, 308 00:11:33,855 --> 00:11:35,634 I don't know if you heard about him, 309 00:11:35,774 --> 00:11:38,095 Javen won a Walton, so he played in 310 00:11:38,095 --> 00:11:38,595 Euphoria, 311 00:11:39,134 --> 00:11:41,375 he played in Under the Bridge and he 312 00:11:41,375 --> 00:11:41,875 played 313 00:11:42,335 --> 00:11:44,975 in Umbrellas at Callemy, he's turning 18 this 314 00:11:44,975 --> 00:11:47,875 summer, he's a boxer, champion of box actually, 315 00:11:48,339 --> 00:11:51,059 and he's a very very good actor so 316 00:11:51,059 --> 00:11:54,019 we are his parents are his manager and 317 00:11:54,019 --> 00:11:56,360 he wants to be Alex my brother 318 00:11:56,740 --> 00:11:57,639 so we are 319 00:11:58,100 --> 00:11:59,320 advancing with him 320 00:11:59,860 --> 00:12:01,720 with his parents as well and 321 00:12:02,705 --> 00:12:05,284 then we will fix where we're gonna shoot, 322 00:12:05,585 --> 00:12:08,384 when we're gonna shoot. And hopefully it's gonna 323 00:12:08,384 --> 00:12:10,065 be in 02/2024. 324 00:12:10,065 --> 00:12:12,164 We're really thinking about December now. 325 00:12:12,465 --> 00:12:14,065 A movie is so long to build that 326 00:12:14,065 --> 00:12:15,125 we don't know exactly 327 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,879 when is it going to be possible. We're 328 00:12:16,879 --> 00:12:19,519 doing everything, we're working every day on the 329 00:12:19,519 --> 00:12:22,480 movie and, never give up. That's the mantra 330 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:22,980 of, 331 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,679 my brother first and then it was the 332 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,440 first title of the movie and now the 333 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:29,539 movie will be called the Tiger's Boxer 334 00:12:29,945 --> 00:12:32,524 because the tiger is the cancer 335 00:12:32,904 --> 00:12:34,284 because it's aggressive 336 00:12:34,585 --> 00:12:37,085 and fast like this cancer Burkitt lymphoma 337 00:12:37,705 --> 00:12:40,044 and my brother is a boxer so 338 00:12:40,424 --> 00:12:43,340 the Tiger's boxer makes sense, I guess. And, 339 00:12:43,899 --> 00:12:45,659 it was also the title of the shorts 340 00:12:45,659 --> 00:12:47,039 that you can find on Eoflix 341 00:12:47,820 --> 00:12:51,259 and, twenty minutes at last. And this one 342 00:12:51,259 --> 00:12:53,279 will be an hour and forty five minutes. 343 00:12:53,580 --> 00:12:56,595 What did you learn about filmmaking that you, 344 00:12:56,754 --> 00:12:59,154 you know, as you went along that what 345 00:12:59,154 --> 00:13:00,855 was something that surprised you? 346 00:13:01,235 --> 00:13:03,554 Well, it's how to build a team that 347 00:13:03,554 --> 00:13:04,615 is really, really 348 00:13:05,074 --> 00:13:07,314 focused and good around you because when you 349 00:13:07,314 --> 00:13:08,909 don't have a team that is, 350 00:13:10,190 --> 00:13:12,529 involved in the team that you wanna develop, 351 00:13:12,750 --> 00:13:13,569 you can feel 352 00:13:14,110 --> 00:13:15,250 very quickly lonely 353 00:13:15,629 --> 00:13:16,029 and, 354 00:13:16,589 --> 00:13:18,909 the movie will have a soul. If you 355 00:13:18,909 --> 00:13:19,970 have every 356 00:13:20,669 --> 00:13:24,345 movie with passion and love, everything will transpire 357 00:13:24,404 --> 00:13:26,485 and sweat love and passion. So this is 358 00:13:26,485 --> 00:13:28,264 how you recognize a good movie, 359 00:13:28,725 --> 00:13:31,365 regarding a bad one. When everybody does it 360 00:13:31,365 --> 00:13:32,664 for the money, of course, 361 00:13:33,044 --> 00:13:35,524 it's important to be paid and but it 362 00:13:35,605 --> 00:13:37,365 the most important is really to do it 363 00:13:37,365 --> 00:13:40,139 with passion and love, especially in this industry. 364 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:42,360 The it takes so much time to build 365 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,720 a movie that if you don't have that 366 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:46,200 I don't think people really understand how much 367 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,360 it takes to make a movie. It's such 368 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:49,100 an undertaking. 369 00:13:50,279 --> 00:13:52,794 My god. Yes. It's been eight years that 370 00:13:52,794 --> 00:13:53,294 I'm, 371 00:13:54,315 --> 00:13:57,134 developing it, trying to find a good team 372 00:13:57,355 --> 00:13:58,955 who trust me, that I can trust as 373 00:13:58,955 --> 00:14:00,075 well. And, 374 00:14:00,875 --> 00:14:03,274 finding the finance is a big part of 375 00:14:03,274 --> 00:14:05,934 it. I think it's the hardest for me 376 00:14:07,195 --> 00:14:09,730 right now, Especially right now. I mean, the 377 00:14:09,730 --> 00:14:11,910 industry is really slowing down. It's crazy. 378 00:14:12,529 --> 00:14:14,450 I think every business is the same, but, 379 00:14:14,769 --> 00:14:16,690 I got in the the movie industry is 380 00:14:16,690 --> 00:14:17,190 really, 381 00:14:18,610 --> 00:14:20,309 having a difficult time right now. 382 00:14:20,875 --> 00:14:22,955 Yeah. It is very tough out there for 383 00:14:22,955 --> 00:14:25,855 sure. Yes. And we also have, Mae Leung 384 00:14:26,315 --> 00:14:27,934 who worked as a super, 385 00:14:30,795 --> 00:14:33,375 ethics supervision supervisor ethics 386 00:14:33,809 --> 00:14:34,549 with the movie, 387 00:14:34,929 --> 00:14:35,910 Buenie and Rhapsody, 388 00:14:36,370 --> 00:14:36,870 Inception. 389 00:14:37,570 --> 00:14:38,129 And she's, 390 00:14:38,529 --> 00:14:40,210 she she's part of the team now as 391 00:14:40,210 --> 00:14:42,389 a producer. She's really involved. 392 00:14:42,850 --> 00:14:44,789 She helps a lot. She's very talented. 393 00:14:45,250 --> 00:14:48,074 She's teaching me all the special effects. She 394 00:14:48,074 --> 00:14:50,495 built the tiger, and the tiger is beautiful. 395 00:14:50,554 --> 00:14:51,694 He will look like, 396 00:14:52,475 --> 00:14:55,294 he can be particles, fire, fur. 397 00:14:55,914 --> 00:14:57,995 He's very realistic and at the same time, 398 00:14:57,995 --> 00:14:58,495 humanized. 399 00:14:59,115 --> 00:15:00,154 So it it is, 400 00:15:00,954 --> 00:15:02,414 this is amazing to see. 401 00:15:02,899 --> 00:15:04,840 So you also have a voice actor, 402 00:15:05,460 --> 00:15:08,580 correct, that voices the tiger? Yes. We are 403 00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:10,820 cast we are working on the casting right 404 00:15:10,820 --> 00:15:13,139 now. We don't have a definite answer, but, 405 00:15:13,460 --> 00:15:15,985 I'm soon gonna tell you. Well, that's great. 406 00:15:15,985 --> 00:15:17,745 What is the plan with the movie once 407 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:19,125 it's out? I know that 408 00:15:19,664 --> 00:15:22,324 I'm assuming that because the subject matter, 409 00:15:22,865 --> 00:15:23,924 part of your fundraising 410 00:15:24,384 --> 00:15:25,764 is perhaps with 411 00:15:26,225 --> 00:15:28,529 people that are in the realm of cancer 412 00:15:28,529 --> 00:15:30,470 research or cancer fundraising, 413 00:15:30,850 --> 00:15:31,909 that sort of thing? 414 00:15:32,850 --> 00:15:35,110 Yeah. We I don't we are trying to 415 00:15:35,409 --> 00:15:38,129 make it, as much universal as possible and 416 00:15:38,129 --> 00:15:39,190 have a cinema, 417 00:15:40,289 --> 00:15:41,110 many cinemas 418 00:15:41,490 --> 00:15:42,629 international distribution. 419 00:15:44,215 --> 00:15:47,335 Either we'll have multiple distributors or just one 420 00:15:47,335 --> 00:15:50,455 or two, depending on how it goes. Right 421 00:15:50,455 --> 00:15:51,975 now, we have to work first on the 422 00:15:51,975 --> 00:15:52,475 cast, 423 00:15:53,254 --> 00:15:55,595 then the finance and then the 424 00:15:56,179 --> 00:15:56,759 the distribution. 425 00:15:57,059 --> 00:16:00,019 David is my mentor, very structured, very organized. 426 00:16:00,019 --> 00:16:01,639 I'm learning everything in production. 427 00:16:02,259 --> 00:16:04,019 I thought before we could do a movie 428 00:16:04,019 --> 00:16:05,459 with low budget, but, 429 00:16:06,019 --> 00:16:06,839 it's possible. 430 00:16:07,779 --> 00:16:08,419 It's just, 431 00:16:09,825 --> 00:16:11,445 even harder and longer, 432 00:16:11,985 --> 00:16:14,004 I think, depending again on, 433 00:16:14,465 --> 00:16:16,144 what's, what kind of movie you wanna do, 434 00:16:16,144 --> 00:16:17,665 but because we involve a lot of three 435 00:16:17,665 --> 00:16:19,764 d special effects and, 436 00:16:20,304 --> 00:16:21,045 a hospital, 437 00:16:21,665 --> 00:16:24,149 that we probably have to build. It is 438 00:16:24,149 --> 00:16:27,029 not a cheap movie. I mean, it's not 439 00:16:27,029 --> 00:16:27,690 a big, 440 00:16:28,070 --> 00:16:29,909 it's not a marvel, but it's not a 441 00:16:29,909 --> 00:16:33,450 cheap movie either. So Yeah. Marvel is yeah. 442 00:16:33,990 --> 00:16:36,389 Marvel is really expensive to make. Are you 443 00:16:36,389 --> 00:16:37,850 doing the movie in English? 444 00:16:38,214 --> 00:16:39,894 Yes. Of course. Yes. Yes. We went to 445 00:16:39,894 --> 00:16:40,394 international, 446 00:16:40,934 --> 00:16:42,475 so English is the best language. 447 00:16:43,575 --> 00:16:47,254 No English accent on, like, American. Yeah. Well, 448 00:16:47,254 --> 00:16:50,054 everybody understand the the American accent. Everybody can 449 00:16:50,054 --> 00:16:51,335 relay it's so big that, 450 00:16:52,850 --> 00:16:54,610 this is the the way to go with 451 00:16:54,610 --> 00:16:57,090 a subject like that. I always want to 452 00:16:57,090 --> 00:16:58,929 give voice to the ones we don't hear. 453 00:16:58,929 --> 00:17:00,950 I always want to tell stories 454 00:17:01,330 --> 00:17:02,389 about social, 455 00:17:03,649 --> 00:17:04,150 families 456 00:17:04,849 --> 00:17:05,670 and environment 457 00:17:06,049 --> 00:17:07,490 and, everything that, 458 00:17:08,984 --> 00:17:11,704 is celebrating life. So right now I'm also 459 00:17:11,704 --> 00:17:14,424 writing a comedy series about all the, the 460 00:17:14,424 --> 00:17:16,585 experience I had, all around the world with 461 00:17:16,585 --> 00:17:17,164 the humanitarian 462 00:17:18,025 --> 00:17:20,505 documentaries that I've done, the amazing people that 463 00:17:20,505 --> 00:17:21,150 I've met 464 00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:24,369 and how it is to be a woman, 465 00:17:24,670 --> 00:17:27,170 38 years old in this industry, 466 00:17:27,789 --> 00:17:28,289 and, 467 00:17:28,830 --> 00:17:30,830 all the dreams that we can have and 468 00:17:30,830 --> 00:17:32,849 not enough time to fulfill everything. 469 00:17:33,230 --> 00:17:33,730 So 470 00:17:35,025 --> 00:17:36,945 comedy, I think, is the best way to 471 00:17:37,105 --> 00:17:38,244 for me to show, 472 00:17:38,785 --> 00:17:39,924 even if it's always 473 00:17:40,305 --> 00:17:40,805 dramatic 474 00:17:41,184 --> 00:17:41,684 subjects. 475 00:17:42,144 --> 00:17:43,845 Comedy is a good way to 476 00:17:45,025 --> 00:17:47,589 to touch the hearts of, many. Tell me 477 00:17:47,589 --> 00:17:50,069 about life in in France. What's it like 478 00:17:50,069 --> 00:17:51,529 living there? How do you 479 00:17:51,829 --> 00:17:53,669 your day to day, what what's it like 480 00:17:53,669 --> 00:17:55,509 there? I was in Paris for twenty five 481 00:17:55,509 --> 00:17:57,190 years. Now I'm back in the South Of 482 00:17:57,190 --> 00:17:59,529 France because I may go back to LA. 483 00:17:59,589 --> 00:18:01,974 So it's like a transition for me. But 484 00:18:01,974 --> 00:18:03,174 in Paris, it was, 485 00:18:03,654 --> 00:18:04,554 you know, sometimes 486 00:18:04,934 --> 00:18:05,434 working 487 00:18:05,815 --> 00:18:06,634 as a teacher 488 00:18:07,095 --> 00:18:07,894 or as, 489 00:18:08,694 --> 00:18:11,274 as an extra, as a second AD, 490 00:18:11,894 --> 00:18:13,674 as a first AD, as a cameraman, 491 00:18:14,134 --> 00:18:14,794 a woman, 492 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:15,980 as 493 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,460 a editor for TV channels, 494 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:20,539 and also 495 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,819 with my non profits doing all the activities 496 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:25,980 and celebrating in Paris. 497 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,365 We we celebrate a lot, 498 00:18:28,765 --> 00:18:30,865 like, more than in LA. It's crazy. 499 00:18:32,365 --> 00:18:34,765 So in LA, it's more like, okay, you 500 00:18:34,765 --> 00:18:36,444 need to pay your rent because the rent 501 00:18:36,444 --> 00:18:37,105 is very 502 00:18:37,724 --> 00:18:40,045 high. So I had, like, three, four jobs 503 00:18:40,045 --> 00:18:41,565 at the same time in LA, not like 504 00:18:41,565 --> 00:18:42,224 in Paris. 505 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:44,799 Now in South Of France, it's more cool. 506 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:46,900 I'm just focusing on the Tigers boxer, 507 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:48,819 waiting for, 508 00:18:49,759 --> 00:18:52,000 I'm not waiting because the energy of waiting 509 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:52,740 is bad. 510 00:18:53,279 --> 00:18:56,000 Always go forward and act. So that's why 511 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:56,240 I'm, 512 00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:57,539 like, 513 00:18:57,845 --> 00:18:59,684 trying to find as many people who want 514 00:18:59,684 --> 00:19:01,924 to get involved in the project and building 515 00:19:01,924 --> 00:19:04,085 a community around it. We're soon gonna do 516 00:19:04,085 --> 00:19:06,404 an Instagram page that is gonna be more 517 00:19:06,404 --> 00:19:08,244 and more. I mean, we already did the 518 00:19:08,244 --> 00:19:10,850 Instagram page, but we, as soon as we, 519 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:12,549 we did the deal with the actor 520 00:19:12,850 --> 00:19:14,610 and other actors will start to, 521 00:19:15,490 --> 00:19:18,390 celebrate on Instagram with lives and everything. 522 00:19:18,690 --> 00:19:20,769 And we really wanna build a community with 523 00:19:20,769 --> 00:19:22,850 people helping us. Cause the way we do 524 00:19:22,850 --> 00:19:25,590 the movie is non profit money and, 525 00:19:26,424 --> 00:19:26,924 normal, 526 00:19:27,945 --> 00:19:30,345 investors who have back back end points and 527 00:19:30,345 --> 00:19:33,085 all that stuff. So we are combining both, 528 00:19:33,384 --> 00:19:33,884 and, 529 00:19:35,224 --> 00:19:37,244 hopefully, it will soon be 530 00:19:38,184 --> 00:19:40,845 over, and we can, finally do the movie. 531 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,240 Yeah. And so if anyone listening wants to 532 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,779 be a producer on a film, 533 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:48,720 now's your chance. Yes. It is time. We 534 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,720 have a good team right now, and we 535 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,059 need more. We need more people like that. 536 00:19:53,279 --> 00:19:56,000 So, also, my favorite part in the movie 537 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:56,820 is editing. 538 00:19:57,404 --> 00:20:00,125 Because when we edit, I always feel that, 539 00:20:01,005 --> 00:20:02,605 the baby is coming to life. You know, 540 00:20:02,605 --> 00:20:03,965 it's the first time you see your baby 541 00:20:03,965 --> 00:20:05,404 once you give birth, you're like, oh my 542 00:20:05,404 --> 00:20:07,644 god, it's so cute. And you see the 543 00:20:07,644 --> 00:20:10,125 future of all his life and you imagine 544 00:20:10,125 --> 00:20:12,305 the best. And so this is 545 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:14,920 Yeah. Editing is 546 00:20:15,259 --> 00:20:15,759 is 547 00:20:16,099 --> 00:20:17,539 fun to bring it all and put it 548 00:20:17,539 --> 00:20:19,000 all together, but, boy, 549 00:20:19,539 --> 00:20:22,039 after making my film, I have a definitely 550 00:20:22,099 --> 00:20:24,119 a new respect for editing 551 00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:25,559 process because 552 00:20:26,384 --> 00:20:29,845 it's complicated. You're building this intricate puzzle 553 00:20:30,625 --> 00:20:33,345 with there's so many parts. There's so many 554 00:20:33,345 --> 00:20:34,724 different ways you could go. 555 00:20:35,184 --> 00:20:38,005 It's an integral part of the storytelling process. 556 00:20:39,025 --> 00:20:40,724 It's it's really quite fascinating. 557 00:20:41,910 --> 00:20:44,150 Yes. Especially, it depends how you wanna build 558 00:20:44,150 --> 00:20:46,070 your movie. But when either you take a 559 00:20:46,070 --> 00:20:47,590 lot of time on the script and the 560 00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:49,430 shot list so that when you edit, you 561 00:20:49,509 --> 00:20:52,730 everything is aligned and it's going going like 562 00:20:52,950 --> 00:20:54,170 ten days and finish. 563 00:20:54,765 --> 00:20:56,525 Or you, have a lot of, 564 00:20:57,244 --> 00:20:58,125 impres vous, 565 00:20:58,605 --> 00:20:59,105 contingencies 566 00:20:59,565 --> 00:21:00,464 on the set, 567 00:21:00,924 --> 00:21:02,845 things that you don't even expect that are 568 00:21:02,845 --> 00:21:05,105 far more better than than what you wrote. 569 00:21:05,884 --> 00:21:08,365 And suddenly you want to adapt and construct 570 00:21:08,365 --> 00:21:09,664 a different way. And 571 00:21:10,079 --> 00:21:12,240 so it depends Yeah. How free you can 572 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,179 be. Yeah. For sure. 573 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,200 What happens after the film? What do you 574 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:18,980 have other stories you're working on? 575 00:21:20,159 --> 00:21:22,240 So I also have an animation film that 576 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:24,164 won the best screenplay prize, 577 00:21:24,565 --> 00:21:25,845 in France with, 578 00:21:26,325 --> 00:21:26,825 organism 579 00:21:27,205 --> 00:21:29,545 of French, like, Sassen, CNC, 580 00:21:30,884 --> 00:21:32,904 Maison du Film. It's like French 581 00:21:33,525 --> 00:21:34,125 organism. But, 582 00:21:34,565 --> 00:21:36,325 of course, it is way too expensive to 583 00:21:36,325 --> 00:21:37,225 do it in France. 584 00:21:37,589 --> 00:21:39,269 So I want to do it like with 585 00:21:39,269 --> 00:21:41,690 Disney or, you know, big companies 586 00:21:42,150 --> 00:21:43,669 for now, they look at me like if 587 00:21:43,669 --> 00:21:45,669 I was a 24 year old blonde girl 588 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:47,829 who never done anything like that, because it's 589 00:21:47,829 --> 00:21:48,970 a three d animation. 590 00:21:49,605 --> 00:21:51,625 So, but it's sci fi, it's fantasy. 591 00:21:52,085 --> 00:21:54,164 I believe sci fi and fantasy is also 592 00:21:54,164 --> 00:21:55,865 very much in my, world. 593 00:21:56,244 --> 00:21:58,005 I I'm waiting. I don't know. I don't 594 00:21:58,005 --> 00:22:00,164 have any producers for this one either. It's 595 00:22:00,164 --> 00:22:02,085 the story of a friendship between a tree 596 00:22:02,085 --> 00:22:04,724 and little girl, and there is AI taking 597 00:22:04,724 --> 00:22:05,579 over the world. 598 00:22:06,059 --> 00:22:06,559 And, 599 00:22:07,259 --> 00:22:10,079 trees are scarcer and scarcer. It's very hot. 600 00:22:10,460 --> 00:22:10,859 And, 601 00:22:11,659 --> 00:22:13,500 this girl is gonna save the world with 602 00:22:13,500 --> 00:22:15,839 her tree because all she wants is to 603 00:22:16,140 --> 00:22:18,000 plant back her Christmas tree, 604 00:22:18,575 --> 00:22:19,394 in the forest. 605 00:22:19,855 --> 00:22:21,714 And, she's gonna illegally 606 00:22:22,174 --> 00:22:24,255 cross all the city to go back to 607 00:22:24,255 --> 00:22:26,115 the forest where she's not allowed to go 608 00:22:26,255 --> 00:22:28,174 and plant the tree next to his parents 609 00:22:28,174 --> 00:22:30,194 because she hears the voice of the tree. 610 00:22:30,255 --> 00:22:31,394 Oh, I love that. 611 00:22:32,589 --> 00:22:34,109 Yeah. I can't wait to do it. It 612 00:22:34,109 --> 00:22:36,289 took me twelve years to write it. And, 613 00:22:36,909 --> 00:22:38,429 it was a dream and it was a 614 00:22:38,429 --> 00:22:40,190 story that my dad was telling me when 615 00:22:40,190 --> 00:22:41,950 I was very young and then it became 616 00:22:41,950 --> 00:22:44,529 a dream and I transformed it into AI, 617 00:22:45,485 --> 00:22:46,625 Sci fi fantasy. 618 00:22:47,005 --> 00:22:48,845 And I build a whole world and a 619 00:22:48,845 --> 00:22:49,345 whole 620 00:22:49,725 --> 00:22:50,225 politic, 621 00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:53,105 organization, 622 00:22:54,445 --> 00:22:56,445 that is very different from what we have 623 00:22:56,445 --> 00:22:58,705 now, but basically it's that, 624 00:23:00,179 --> 00:23:00,839 politics are, 625 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:04,119 all all into AI. 626 00:23:04,579 --> 00:23:06,359 Well, I mean, that's a very timely 627 00:23:06,899 --> 00:23:08,980 thing to write about. And I am curious 628 00:23:08,980 --> 00:23:10,579 to see what AI is going to do 629 00:23:10,579 --> 00:23:13,779 in our future, especially for creatives, but in 630 00:23:13,779 --> 00:23:15,319 nature too. I think 631 00:23:15,625 --> 00:23:17,884 it will go one of two ways. Either 632 00:23:18,424 --> 00:23:20,845 everything will become so automated that 633 00:23:21,464 --> 00:23:21,964 we 634 00:23:22,585 --> 00:23:24,664 spend all our days in nature and let 635 00:23:24,664 --> 00:23:26,444 AI do everything, or 636 00:23:27,384 --> 00:23:28,765 it's a more dystopian 637 00:23:29,769 --> 00:23:30,269 and 638 00:23:30,890 --> 00:23:33,950 machines will just take over everything. And augmented 639 00:23:34,009 --> 00:23:36,490 reality will become when we go to the 640 00:23:36,490 --> 00:23:38,490 forest, it'll be through a headset, which I 641 00:23:38,490 --> 00:23:40,429 hope it doesn't come to that. That would 642 00:23:40,809 --> 00:23:42,569 be a real bummer because I'm a big 643 00:23:42,569 --> 00:23:43,869 tree hugger myself. 644 00:23:45,384 --> 00:23:47,625 Of course. But I mean, everybody should be 645 00:23:47,704 --> 00:23:49,464 no. I don't understand. The people who are 646 00:23:49,464 --> 00:23:51,565 disconnect connected with the trees, 647 00:23:52,345 --> 00:23:53,565 are totally, 648 00:23:54,664 --> 00:23:58,105 wrong because, the trees give you oxygen. Without 649 00:23:58,105 --> 00:24:00,500 oxygen, you cannot breathe. They don't need us, 650 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:01,559 but we need them. 651 00:24:01,859 --> 00:24:02,359 So 652 00:24:02,819 --> 00:24:04,740 I don't understand the people who are, you 653 00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:07,880 know, laughing about tree huggers like us because 654 00:24:08,179 --> 00:24:10,279 they should all understand and have 655 00:24:10,579 --> 00:24:11,159 a humility 656 00:24:11,779 --> 00:24:14,599 about seeing what gives them oxygen. 657 00:24:15,765 --> 00:24:17,305 Yeah. Water tree 658 00:24:18,644 --> 00:24:19,465 water is, 659 00:24:20,085 --> 00:24:21,305 also in danger. 660 00:24:21,765 --> 00:24:23,445 There is a guy who told me there's 661 00:24:23,445 --> 00:24:25,445 not one place on the earth where water 662 00:24:25,445 --> 00:24:27,065 is not crying out for help, 663 00:24:27,445 --> 00:24:29,545 because of all the pollution and 664 00:24:30,269 --> 00:24:32,369 everything that we do with the planet. 665 00:24:32,910 --> 00:24:34,210 I don't understand because 666 00:24:34,750 --> 00:24:36,910 when you see animals, we are animals too. 667 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,430 And I believe we are in a circle, 668 00:24:38,430 --> 00:24:39,890 not in a pyramid, 669 00:24:40,269 --> 00:24:41,950 but a lot of people believe we are 670 00:24:41,950 --> 00:24:44,210 in a pyramid and humans are on top. 671 00:24:44,714 --> 00:24:47,275 But, if we were on top, then why 672 00:24:47,275 --> 00:24:48,654 the heck are we, 673 00:24:49,194 --> 00:24:51,694 leaving so many trash behind us? 674 00:24:52,234 --> 00:24:54,875 Why are we transforming the landscape in such 675 00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,794 a way that we don't have any more 676 00:24:56,794 --> 00:24:58,494 natural resources to survive? 677 00:24:58,980 --> 00:25:01,539 Why do we still want kids? Although we 678 00:25:01,539 --> 00:25:03,859 know that how are they gonna live with 679 00:25:03,859 --> 00:25:06,759 no no natural resources, they're not infinite. 680 00:25:07,220 --> 00:25:09,400 They have an ending if we don't replant 681 00:25:09,539 --> 00:25:11,319 and take care. And 682 00:25:11,619 --> 00:25:13,319 it doesn't seem that the planet 683 00:25:13,705 --> 00:25:15,404 goes on the right 684 00:25:15,705 --> 00:25:18,184 side. That's why I built an alphabet of 685 00:25:18,184 --> 00:25:20,505 trees that is free on my website and 686 00:25:20,505 --> 00:25:22,105 I wanted to make it as a book 687 00:25:22,105 --> 00:25:23,945 so that all the school could study the 688 00:25:23,945 --> 00:25:25,404 trees before the numbers. 689 00:25:26,664 --> 00:25:27,164 But 690 00:25:27,670 --> 00:25:30,150 this is also a struggle. Even this simple 691 00:25:30,150 --> 00:25:30,650 thing 692 00:25:31,269 --> 00:25:34,070 is not with one yet. Though humans do 693 00:25:34,070 --> 00:25:35,509 feel like they're at the top of the 694 00:25:35,509 --> 00:25:36,009 chain, 695 00:25:36,869 --> 00:25:38,549 the truth of the matter is the planet 696 00:25:38,549 --> 00:25:41,764 doesn't need us. And if we don't respect 697 00:25:41,825 --> 00:25:44,484 her and and take care of her and 698 00:25:44,944 --> 00:25:47,284 coddle her in her time of need, 699 00:25:47,664 --> 00:25:48,565 we will find 700 00:25:49,105 --> 00:25:52,464 in not too distant future that she just 701 00:25:52,464 --> 00:25:55,044 spits us right out and off, and 702 00:25:55,589 --> 00:25:58,309 they don't I mean, anyone can see that 703 00:25:58,309 --> 00:25:58,809 nature 704 00:25:59,349 --> 00:26:00,490 will override 705 00:26:01,269 --> 00:26:01,769 human. 706 00:26:02,150 --> 00:26:04,549 We're just visiting. We're just passengers, and we 707 00:26:04,549 --> 00:26:06,789 better not be like a bacteria, a bad 708 00:26:06,789 --> 00:26:09,349 one, a parasite. We need to be, I 709 00:26:09,349 --> 00:26:11,455 mean, we we we have the choice, which 710 00:26:11,455 --> 00:26:12,275 is beautiful. 711 00:26:12,815 --> 00:26:17,455 Either become the friend of our house and 712 00:26:17,455 --> 00:26:18,015 a good, 713 00:26:18,815 --> 00:26:20,575 how do you say it? A steward. A 714 00:26:20,575 --> 00:26:23,695 good gift. Yeah. A steward. Or, and learn 715 00:26:23,695 --> 00:26:25,555 from the environment and learn, 716 00:26:25,934 --> 00:26:27,269 because we are just, 717 00:26:28,630 --> 00:26:31,130 students and the life is just teaching us. 718 00:26:31,349 --> 00:26:33,269 But then if we think that we are 719 00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:35,190 the teachers that we know everything and that 720 00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:37,130 we are just going to destroy everything and 721 00:26:37,509 --> 00:26:39,130 pass like that, of course, 722 00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:41,815 it's going to be horrible and I don't 723 00:26:41,815 --> 00:26:43,414 know how it's gonna end, but it's not 724 00:26:43,414 --> 00:26:45,654 gonna be pretty if we don't respect this 725 00:26:45,654 --> 00:26:48,695 beautiful nature that is very respectful to us 726 00:26:48,695 --> 00:26:50,634 and offers us everything we need. 727 00:26:51,414 --> 00:26:53,674 There is a beautiful movie that is French 728 00:26:53,734 --> 00:26:55,355 called La Colleen Vert, 729 00:26:56,529 --> 00:26:59,190 of Colin Zero. This it is the story 730 00:26:59,250 --> 00:27:02,369 of, another planet with lots of aliens and 731 00:27:02,369 --> 00:27:02,869 suddenly, 732 00:27:03,490 --> 00:27:05,410 someone says, who wants to go to the 733 00:27:05,410 --> 00:27:08,049 Earth to see what's going on over there? 734 00:27:08,049 --> 00:27:10,210 And nobody wants to go there. Everybody said 735 00:27:10,210 --> 00:27:12,295 no way. Kidding me? Planet Earth is the 736 00:27:12,295 --> 00:27:14,634 most stupid planet ever. People just 737 00:27:15,015 --> 00:27:16,795 covered the Earth with concrete, 738 00:27:17,414 --> 00:27:18,315 built tickets, 739 00:27:18,855 --> 00:27:21,255 papers to give to other to have the 740 00:27:21,255 --> 00:27:22,795 trees that are in front of them. 741 00:27:24,775 --> 00:27:27,279 They they kill animal to eat, we are 742 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:28,880 never gonna go there, but there is one 743 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,140 alien who said, maybe my grand grand grandparents 744 00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:31,859 were 745 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,240 there, so maybe I need to go to 746 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,160 see where I come from. So she goes 747 00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,099 and she discovers the human planet 748 00:27:38,605 --> 00:27:41,164 in her engineers' eyes, and it's so well 749 00:27:41,164 --> 00:27:43,404 done. It's so funny. I will send it 750 00:27:43,404 --> 00:27:45,404 to you, but it's really worth it. Thank 751 00:27:45,404 --> 00:27:47,325 you. Definitely send it to me, and I'll 752 00:27:47,325 --> 00:27:49,404 put a link on there. Tell people how 753 00:27:49,404 --> 00:27:51,484 they might find you, how they can support 754 00:27:51,484 --> 00:27:53,869 your work, or look into you more. Beside 755 00:27:53,950 --> 00:27:56,210 I'll I'll put a link for IMDB, but, 756 00:27:56,670 --> 00:27:59,069 also, is there a good place to find 757 00:27:59,069 --> 00:27:59,569 you? 758 00:28:00,670 --> 00:28:02,750 Yes. There is my website that I will 759 00:28:02,750 --> 00:28:03,730 send to you, 760 00:28:04,349 --> 00:28:06,210 Hackback and Magical Route, 761 00:28:06,855 --> 00:28:07,994 and there is also, 762 00:28:08,375 --> 00:28:10,875 you can check the Hope Paris, my documentary 763 00:28:11,174 --> 00:28:11,674 series, 764 00:28:12,375 --> 00:28:14,214 Le Porteur des Poins in French, and it 765 00:28:14,214 --> 00:28:15,674 was on TV five, 766 00:28:16,055 --> 00:28:16,555 Oshoia 767 00:28:17,015 --> 00:28:20,039 TV, and the Planet Plus TV. I I 768 00:28:20,039 --> 00:28:21,880 wish there were more, but for now, that's 769 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:23,100 all. But I'm trying 770 00:28:23,559 --> 00:28:24,779 to No. That's great. 771 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,640 That's wonderful. Send me any links you want, 772 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,519 and I'll put everything on heyhumanpodcast.com 773 00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,019 for people to to find easily. Yeah. 774 00:28:33,654 --> 00:28:35,815 Thank you so much. Thank you. Jane, I 775 00:28:35,815 --> 00:28:37,974 wish you so much success. Please let me 776 00:28:37,974 --> 00:28:40,075 know when you're back in The States and 777 00:28:40,214 --> 00:28:43,434 continued health and well-being for your brother too. 778 00:28:44,134 --> 00:28:46,250 Thank you. Yes. Yes. I will. 779 00:28:46,869 --> 00:28:49,509 That's what family is there for and friends 780 00:28:49,509 --> 00:28:50,009 and 781 00:28:50,390 --> 00:28:53,289 all the the positivity people who are around. 782 00:28:53,349 --> 00:28:55,049 Thank you for listening, everybody. 783 00:28:55,509 --> 00:28:56,009 Bye. 784 00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:57,210 Thank you. 785 00:28:57,910 --> 00:28:58,650 Bye bye. 786 00:29:04,424 --> 00:29:07,144 Rate, review, and subscribe to Hey Human podcast 787 00:29:07,144 --> 00:29:07,884 on iTunes, 788 00:29:08,265 --> 00:29:11,644 Spotify, wherever you get your podcasts. Thanks. Bye.