1 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:09,699 Hey, humans. How's it going? 2 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:12,719 Susan Ruth here. Thanks for listening to another 3 00:00:12,719 --> 00:00:13,219 episode 4 00:00:13,519 --> 00:00:14,980 of Hey Human podcast. 5 00:00:16,295 --> 00:00:17,914 This is episode 428, 6 00:00:19,095 --> 00:00:20,714 and my guest is Andrea 7 00:00:21,175 --> 00:00:21,675 Landi. 8 00:00:21,975 --> 00:00:22,475 Andrea 9 00:00:22,935 --> 00:00:25,435 is the president of Landi Technologies, 10 00:00:25,815 --> 00:00:26,554 a multinational 11 00:00:27,095 --> 00:00:29,355 eco mobility company that is dedicated 12 00:00:30,039 --> 00:00:32,840 to moving the natural gas industry forward and 13 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:33,979 to support advocacy 14 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,420 for public policies that advance alternative 15 00:00:37,799 --> 00:00:38,939 vehicles and fuels. 16 00:00:39,799 --> 00:00:43,079 Landi wants to make low emission cars and 17 00:00:43,079 --> 00:00:45,259 small trucks the standard around the world 18 00:00:45,765 --> 00:00:49,704 with alternative fuel systems like compressed natural gas, 19 00:00:50,005 --> 00:00:52,105 renewable natural gas and hydrogen. 20 00:00:52,885 --> 00:00:55,445 Really interesting conversation. A friend of mine actually 21 00:00:55,445 --> 00:00:57,385 drives a car that is run on hydrogen 22 00:00:58,170 --> 00:01:00,670 and loves it, first of all. 23 00:01:01,049 --> 00:01:01,549 And 24 00:01:02,649 --> 00:01:06,090 after talking with Andrea, I have to say 25 00:01:06,090 --> 00:01:07,609 I went into a bit of a deep 26 00:01:07,609 --> 00:01:08,109 dive, 27 00:01:08,569 --> 00:01:10,969 learned a lot more. I really recommend you 28 00:01:10,969 --> 00:01:13,150 do that as well. Such an interesting 29 00:01:14,754 --> 00:01:17,155 an interesting man, first of all, and I 30 00:01:17,155 --> 00:01:19,415 think what they're doing is really exciting. 31 00:01:19,954 --> 00:01:21,894 Landi Technologies is really exciting, 32 00:01:22,515 --> 00:01:24,915 and I think it's necessary. I think we're 33 00:01:24,915 --> 00:01:26,215 moving in that direction. 34 00:01:26,670 --> 00:01:28,430 So I'm excited for you to hear this 35 00:01:28,430 --> 00:01:29,489 episode and 36 00:01:29,870 --> 00:01:32,349 do do your own deep diving and learning 37 00:01:32,349 --> 00:01:33,090 more about 38 00:01:33,390 --> 00:01:33,890 alternative 39 00:01:34,989 --> 00:01:37,010 ways to make a car go. 40 00:01:37,950 --> 00:01:39,229 You know what they call a car with 41 00:01:39,229 --> 00:01:40,290 an s on it? 42 00:01:40,634 --> 00:01:42,174 Escargot. Alright. Moving 43 00:01:42,554 --> 00:01:45,194 on. Hey Human podcast is on YouTube under 44 00:01:45,194 --> 00:01:48,015 official Susan Ruth. 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Thank you very much for having 76 00:02:58,020 --> 00:02:59,960 me here. Since we got introduced, 77 00:03:00,305 --> 00:03:03,105 I listened to, your podcast and some of 78 00:03:03,105 --> 00:03:04,485 your episodes and, 79 00:03:05,185 --> 00:03:06,705 congrats. I really like it. I mean, I 80 00:03:06,705 --> 00:03:09,185 really love the format and the fact that, 81 00:03:09,185 --> 00:03:10,405 you know, you interview 82 00:03:10,944 --> 00:03:13,284 people from all kinds of background 83 00:03:13,585 --> 00:03:14,085 and 84 00:03:14,829 --> 00:03:17,090 interesting stories, free flow conversation. 85 00:03:18,349 --> 00:03:20,349 Really like it. So I'm very excited to 86 00:03:20,349 --> 00:03:21,870 be part of it. So, really, again, thank 87 00:03:21,870 --> 00:03:23,969 you very much for having me on this. 88 00:03:24,189 --> 00:03:26,909 Oh, I appreciate that kindness. Thank you. It 89 00:03:26,909 --> 00:03:29,489 was very nice. Are you hailing from California 90 00:03:29,629 --> 00:03:30,289 right now? 91 00:03:30,805 --> 00:03:32,805 Yes. I'm in Taurus. That's where my office 92 00:03:32,805 --> 00:03:34,965 is. Let's jump in. I like to start 93 00:03:34,965 --> 00:03:37,625 these always asking you about 94 00:03:37,925 --> 00:03:39,064 where your childhood 95 00:03:39,764 --> 00:03:40,264 experiences 96 00:03:40,645 --> 00:03:42,905 were, what shaped you as a kid? 97 00:03:43,680 --> 00:03:45,300 Yes. I was born in Italy 98 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,300 in, Reggio Emilia, 99 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:50,419 famous for being the home of Parmigiano Reggiano 100 00:03:50,479 --> 00:03:53,680 Cheese. Yeah. Northern Italy, actually in an area 101 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,735 called also Motor Valley. There's a lot of 102 00:03:56,735 --> 00:03:59,854 companies involved in the automotive industry. The most 103 00:03:59,854 --> 00:04:00,995 famous are Ferrari, 104 00:04:01,455 --> 00:04:01,955 Lamborghini, 105 00:04:03,134 --> 00:04:03,634 Ducati. 106 00:04:03,935 --> 00:04:07,694 So very, very automotive oriented area. I know 107 00:04:07,694 --> 00:04:09,634 that's where my company actually 108 00:04:10,310 --> 00:04:11,129 was launched, 109 00:04:12,230 --> 00:04:13,129 by my grandfather. 110 00:04:13,510 --> 00:04:15,610 And, yeah. So I was born there. 111 00:04:15,909 --> 00:04:16,230 I, 112 00:04:17,589 --> 00:04:19,850 I've been here in Los Angeles, 113 00:04:20,310 --> 00:04:21,370 since 2010, 114 00:04:22,149 --> 00:04:22,649 so 115 00:04:23,029 --> 00:04:23,509 almost, 116 00:04:23,830 --> 00:04:24,889 15 years. 117 00:04:25,605 --> 00:04:27,384 They apply very, very quick. 118 00:04:28,004 --> 00:04:28,904 I was supposed 119 00:04:29,444 --> 00:04:31,545 to be here just to launch 120 00:04:32,004 --> 00:04:33,305 what is now my company 121 00:04:33,685 --> 00:04:36,185 and then go back to Italy, but 122 00:04:36,964 --> 00:04:39,225 15 years later, 2 kids later, 123 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,540 I'm here. I I feel like, 124 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:45,639 you know, an adopted California for sure. Yeah. 125 00:04:45,639 --> 00:04:46,699 Very likely here. 126 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,240 The I mean, we've got the wineries. A 127 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:51,560 lot of the the feel of it, I 128 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,685 imagine, is it's sort of comforting. Lot of 129 00:04:54,685 --> 00:04:57,564 similarities for sure. Lot of similarities. Yeah. Yeah. 130 00:04:57,564 --> 00:05:00,045 We have, you know, mountains and and and, 131 00:05:00,045 --> 00:05:02,125 you know, the ocean, you know, very, very 132 00:05:02,125 --> 00:05:04,384 close by. And, yes, the the wineries, 133 00:05:05,324 --> 00:05:06,464 you know, good food, 134 00:05:07,689 --> 00:05:08,350 good ingredients. 135 00:05:08,730 --> 00:05:09,050 So, 136 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:11,709 We even have Olive Groves in Ojai. 137 00:05:12,970 --> 00:05:14,970 That yeah. I is that is that where 138 00:05:14,970 --> 00:05:16,730 you live in in Ojai? I live in 139 00:05:16,730 --> 00:05:18,649 Santa Monica, but I like to go to 140 00:05:18,649 --> 00:05:20,410 Ojai. It's great. Yeah. I love it too. 141 00:05:20,410 --> 00:05:23,105 I love it too. Ojai. Yeah. And, so 142 00:05:23,105 --> 00:05:26,725 definitely. Yeah. But weather is definitely better here, 143 00:05:27,105 --> 00:05:29,205 and for me, it's an important factor. 144 00:05:31,025 --> 00:05:33,025 Yeah. I grew up in Northern Italy where, 145 00:05:33,025 --> 00:05:33,605 you know, 146 00:05:33,985 --> 00:05:37,410 winters were cold and foggy, and, you know, 147 00:05:37,490 --> 00:05:39,110 some people like it and, you know, 148 00:05:39,490 --> 00:05:41,649 it's it's very it's very beautiful. I'm not 149 00:05:41,649 --> 00:05:44,370 gonna deny that. And and I love we 150 00:05:44,370 --> 00:05:45,350 were just there, 151 00:05:45,889 --> 00:05:46,629 for vacation. 152 00:05:47,250 --> 00:05:48,389 We had a great time. 153 00:05:48,769 --> 00:05:49,269 And 154 00:05:49,569 --> 00:05:52,014 so yeah. I mean, it's still beautiful and 155 00:05:52,014 --> 00:05:53,774 then but, you know, at one point, you 156 00:05:53,774 --> 00:05:54,354 you decide 157 00:05:54,735 --> 00:05:56,574 you are where where where you you where 158 00:05:56,574 --> 00:05:57,794 you have to be. And, 159 00:05:58,735 --> 00:05:59,235 my 160 00:05:59,694 --> 00:06:02,834 my adult life, it's it's been mainly here. 161 00:06:03,055 --> 00:06:04,995 And, again, my kids grew up here. 162 00:06:05,439 --> 00:06:07,600 Do they speak Italian? They speak Italian. Yeah. 163 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,079 Yeah. Since, since they were born, I always, 164 00:06:11,439 --> 00:06:14,000 you know, for me, it was very natural 165 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:15,300 to speak in in Italian. 166 00:06:15,919 --> 00:06:17,865 So so, yeah, they're fluent. Did they do 167 00:06:17,865 --> 00:06:19,625 this a lot with the thing with the 168 00:06:19,625 --> 00:06:23,225 hands? They're they're dramatic, especially my daughter for 169 00:06:23,225 --> 00:06:23,725 sure. 170 00:06:25,785 --> 00:06:26,285 Yeah. 171 00:06:26,745 --> 00:06:28,745 I love that. Hey. You grew up in 172 00:06:28,745 --> 00:06:30,750 a and it sounds like, just from the 173 00:06:30,750 --> 00:06:32,189 little bit I've read about you, you grew 174 00:06:32,189 --> 00:06:34,689 up in a tight family. That's right. Your 175 00:06:34,910 --> 00:06:36,930 grand grandfather was the patriarch 176 00:06:37,310 --> 00:06:39,310 and everyone sort of looked to him, or 177 00:06:39,310 --> 00:06:41,649 was it a grandma and grandpa equally 178 00:06:42,365 --> 00:06:43,904 the the leaders of the family? 179 00:06:44,285 --> 00:06:46,845 My definitely, my grandfather, although I never met 180 00:06:46,845 --> 00:06:47,345 him, 181 00:06:47,805 --> 00:06:50,225 is the reason why I'm here today because 182 00:06:50,444 --> 00:06:52,384 I moved here for for work 183 00:06:52,845 --> 00:06:54,125 and he had, 184 00:06:55,259 --> 00:06:56,560 started this company, 185 00:06:57,019 --> 00:06:57,519 Landirenso, 186 00:06:58,060 --> 00:07:00,240 because he was a self taught engineer 187 00:07:00,939 --> 00:07:03,500 growing up in Italy. During World War II, 188 00:07:03,500 --> 00:07:05,039 there was shortage of gasoline, 189 00:07:05,579 --> 00:07:06,319 in Italy 190 00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:09,225 and the area where where I'm from, 191 00:07:09,625 --> 00:07:12,425 the Emilia Romagna region, was rich of natural 192 00:07:12,425 --> 00:07:13,404 gas. So 193 00:07:14,024 --> 00:07:16,024 at that time, people were thinking about alternative. 194 00:07:16,024 --> 00:07:17,404 Okay? There's not gasoline. 195 00:07:17,785 --> 00:07:18,605 And so 196 00:07:18,985 --> 00:07:21,485 people were thinking about alternative, and my grandfather, 197 00:07:21,705 --> 00:07:24,460 self taught engineer, had come across this technology, 198 00:07:24,460 --> 00:07:26,240 natural gas, for for vehicles 199 00:07:27,980 --> 00:07:30,480 and started to study it and started designing 200 00:07:30,620 --> 00:07:31,759 components, parts, 201 00:07:32,540 --> 00:07:34,639 to essentially transform and make 202 00:07:35,100 --> 00:07:35,600 gasoline 203 00:07:36,300 --> 00:07:39,105 vehicles run on on natural gas. Ahead of 204 00:07:39,105 --> 00:07:41,105 its time, really. Yeah. It was ahead of 205 00:07:41,105 --> 00:07:42,644 its time, especially 206 00:07:43,024 --> 00:07:43,524 because 207 00:07:44,144 --> 00:07:46,245 well, at that time, really, 208 00:07:46,545 --> 00:07:49,105 the main driver for people to utilize this 209 00:07:49,105 --> 00:07:51,264 technology was, for first of all, was more 210 00:07:51,264 --> 00:07:53,470 available because after the World War 2, there 211 00:07:53,470 --> 00:07:55,230 was shortage of gasoline. So it was more 212 00:07:55,230 --> 00:07:55,730 available. 213 00:07:56,110 --> 00:07:58,129 It was cheaper compared to gasoline. 214 00:07:59,790 --> 00:08:03,009 So but he was always no. But this 215 00:08:03,470 --> 00:08:05,709 is good for the environment. This is better 216 00:08:05,709 --> 00:08:06,529 for the environment. 217 00:08:07,454 --> 00:08:10,535 And and people were like, but what? Who 218 00:08:10,535 --> 00:08:12,574 who cares? What are you talking about? And 219 00:08:12,574 --> 00:08:15,134 I remember my my grandmother telling me these 220 00:08:15,134 --> 00:08:16,115 stories where, 221 00:08:17,214 --> 00:08:19,495 they used to make their my grandfather set 222 00:08:19,495 --> 00:08:20,589 a company with in a in a workshop 223 00:08:20,589 --> 00:08:20,634 with my with his wife, my grandmother. And, 224 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:22,000 so he was the the with my with 225 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:23,213 his wife, my grandmother. And, so he was 226 00:08:23,213 --> 00:08:24,379 the the genius and technical guy. 227 00:08:24,759 --> 00:08:25,439 My my grandmother, she was, you know, the 228 00:08:25,439 --> 00:08:27,240 the accountant and an admin office person, and 229 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,599 they were putting together the first brochures for 230 00:08:28,599 --> 00:08:29,899 for the company. 231 00:08:36,644 --> 00:08:40,105 And so they had these, pictures with components 232 00:08:40,644 --> 00:08:41,784 and the drivers. 233 00:08:42,245 --> 00:08:44,725 It's good for your engine. It's good for 234 00:08:44,725 --> 00:08:46,264 your wallet. It's good. 235 00:08:46,565 --> 00:08:49,365 And then my grandfather always wanted to add 236 00:08:49,365 --> 00:08:50,184 no pollution. 237 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,559 And my grandmother was always fighting with him 238 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:55,879 because, like, nobody cares. We don't need to 239 00:08:55,879 --> 00:08:57,480 do it. And he was, please, please, come 240 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,399 on. Like, I think it's important things will 241 00:08:59,399 --> 00:09:00,540 change. He said, whatever. 242 00:09:01,639 --> 00:09:03,340 And and here we are 243 00:09:04,054 --> 00:09:07,254 70 years, later where, you know, environment is 244 00:09:07,254 --> 00:09:09,335 definitely a big part of it. He was 245 00:09:09,335 --> 00:09:11,355 really ahead of the of his times, and 246 00:09:11,735 --> 00:09:13,815 he set up one of the he built 247 00:09:13,815 --> 00:09:14,875 one of the first, 248 00:09:16,214 --> 00:09:17,835 labs in the world 249 00:09:18,159 --> 00:09:20,500 focused on analyzing pollutant emissions. 250 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:22,960 And back then, when he was doing that, 251 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:24,799 people were really think were really calling him 252 00:09:24,799 --> 00:09:26,399 crazy. I mean, what are you you're wasting 253 00:09:26,399 --> 00:09:27,139 your money. 254 00:09:27,759 --> 00:09:29,379 But that's actually how, 255 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:31,840 got the attention of some, 256 00:09:32,399 --> 00:09:33,779 some important companies. 257 00:09:34,375 --> 00:09:37,254 Mitsubishi was was really the first one, the 258 00:09:37,254 --> 00:09:39,754 first company that wanted to cooperate with him. 259 00:09:40,134 --> 00:09:43,115 And, yeah, fortunately, he passed away, died before, 260 00:09:44,134 --> 00:09:45,654 a man named he died in, in the 261 00:09:45,654 --> 00:09:47,034 midst in the mid seventies. 262 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:48,100 And, 263 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,139 my my grandmother, all of a sudden, 264 00:09:51,759 --> 00:09:55,040 found herself a widow with 2 kids to 265 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,660 raise and and a company, 266 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:57,779 to run. 267 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,040 As you can imagine, you know, mid mid 268 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:02,899 seventies and frankly, even today, 269 00:10:04,184 --> 00:10:05,324 a woman, a widow, 270 00:10:06,024 --> 00:10:08,044 2 kids in the highly dominated, 271 00:10:09,384 --> 00:10:11,324 male highly male dominated 272 00:10:12,424 --> 00:10:15,245 industry, like the auto industry, it wasn't really 273 00:10:15,304 --> 00:10:17,944 something easy. And everybody around there were standing 274 00:10:18,105 --> 00:10:20,160 they were telling her, listen. You gotta sell 275 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:21,759 the company. What are you doing? You can't 276 00:10:21,759 --> 00:10:23,600 continue yourself. You're a woman. You know? What 277 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,299 are you doing with a company? 278 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,059 You have to raise your kids. 279 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,399 But she was very stubborn, and and she 280 00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:33,125 didn't sell the company, and she she continued 281 00:10:33,264 --> 00:10:35,345 actually to grow the business, and then the 282 00:10:35,345 --> 00:10:37,745 rest the rest is history because the company 283 00:10:37,745 --> 00:10:39,524 continued. You need to grow the 284 00:10:40,065 --> 00:10:40,565 attention 285 00:10:41,105 --> 00:10:41,605 for, 286 00:10:42,465 --> 00:10:43,205 the ecomobility, 287 00:10:44,772 --> 00:10:47,320 grew. So the company the company continued to 288 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:48,460 grow. And then, 289 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:50,299 yeah, she actually became 290 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,019 one of the, very few, 291 00:10:53,879 --> 00:10:57,320 women united by the president of Italy. So 292 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,865 Wow. Yeah. Yeah. She was a cool cool 293 00:10:59,865 --> 00:11:02,184 woman. She passed away last year, but she 294 00:11:02,184 --> 00:11:04,184 had a great life. And what's her what's 295 00:11:04,184 --> 00:11:05,325 her name? Giovannina. 296 00:11:06,345 --> 00:11:07,404 Oh, beautiful name. 297 00:11:07,705 --> 00:11:10,105 I it's always hard, I think, when somebody 298 00:11:10,105 --> 00:11:12,024 leaves our family, you know, when they pass 299 00:11:12,024 --> 00:11:12,690 on, but 300 00:11:13,250 --> 00:11:15,570 especially somebody that has that big of a 301 00:11:15,570 --> 00:11:16,070 presence. 302 00:11:16,690 --> 00:11:19,909 Yeah. She actually was a cool, cool woman, 303 00:11:20,129 --> 00:11:23,409 interesting businesswoman. She traveled the world speaking very 304 00:11:23,409 --> 00:11:24,230 little English, 305 00:11:26,695 --> 00:11:27,514 and and mainly 306 00:11:27,894 --> 00:11:29,894 she, you know, she was proud to say, 307 00:11:29,894 --> 00:11:32,534 you know, I'm I mainly spoke my dialect, 308 00:11:32,534 --> 00:11:33,914 you know, dialect over 309 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:37,860 Reggio Emilia. 310 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 But, yeah, I know she was, you know, 311 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,300 business savvy. She was also very cool. She 312 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,779 she was a tarot reader, 313 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,620 before before, 314 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,559 an important business deal. She was always reading 315 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:51,059 tarots. 316 00:11:51,595 --> 00:11:52,654 She sounds awesome. 317 00:11:53,274 --> 00:11:53,774 Yeah. 318 00:11:54,955 --> 00:11:57,695 When you grow up with the family business, 319 00:11:58,315 --> 00:12:00,235 how many siblings do you have? I have 320 00:12:00,235 --> 00:12:02,235 one brother. Younger brother. Yeah. He lives in 321 00:12:02,235 --> 00:12:05,035 Italy. Yeah. 6 year difference. When you have 322 00:12:05,035 --> 00:12:05,535 that 323 00:12:06,500 --> 00:12:07,399 family business, 324 00:12:08,500 --> 00:12:10,100 I don't think it matters what the business 325 00:12:10,100 --> 00:12:12,659 is or even how successful it is. It's 326 00:12:13,139 --> 00:12:15,620 there is this idea for the children and 327 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:17,779 the grandchildren that they must be in that 328 00:12:17,779 --> 00:12:18,279 pipeline. 329 00:12:18,585 --> 00:12:20,345 Was it a no brainer for you that's 330 00:12:20,345 --> 00:12:22,125 something you were already impassioned 331 00:12:22,985 --> 00:12:23,965 about, or 332 00:12:24,345 --> 00:12:25,644 did it take some convincing? 333 00:12:26,264 --> 00:12:28,024 I I have to say, I I never 334 00:12:28,024 --> 00:12:28,524 felt 335 00:12:29,144 --> 00:12:30,904 that pressure, and and I agree with you, 336 00:12:30,904 --> 00:12:32,665 but I never felt, at least with my 337 00:12:32,665 --> 00:12:33,165 experience, 338 00:12:34,730 --> 00:12:36,829 I I grew up in it, obviously, 339 00:12:38,250 --> 00:12:39,069 and following 340 00:12:39,690 --> 00:12:42,329 occasionally my dad in in business trips, but 341 00:12:42,329 --> 00:12:44,490 for me, it was mainly it was nice 342 00:12:44,490 --> 00:12:46,970 to to travel a little bit. I never 343 00:12:46,970 --> 00:12:49,769 really saw the the the the business side 344 00:12:49,769 --> 00:12:50,384 of it. 345 00:12:50,945 --> 00:12:52,785 Also, when I was in college, I wasn't 346 00:12:52,785 --> 00:12:56,065 thinking, okay, I'm gonna do that. And I 347 00:12:56,065 --> 00:12:57,424 I knew that at one point I would 348 00:12:57,424 --> 00:12:59,504 have to do something, but then I I 349 00:12:59,504 --> 00:13:01,585 did I studied in in Italy and in 350 00:13:01,585 --> 00:13:02,725 Spain, in Barcelona, 351 00:13:03,139 --> 00:13:05,700 and, that really opened, you know, my my 352 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:06,679 mind to, 353 00:13:07,299 --> 00:13:09,879 you know, the world and then meeting all 354 00:13:10,259 --> 00:13:13,000 people from all kinds of backgrounds. And then 355 00:13:13,620 --> 00:13:15,320 at one point, I had to 356 00:13:16,455 --> 00:13:18,054 call I graduated from college and I had 357 00:13:18,054 --> 00:13:20,154 to do something. Business or engineering? 358 00:13:21,095 --> 00:13:22,475 Business. Yeah okay. 359 00:13:23,335 --> 00:13:24,955 I'm not very technical. I pretend, 360 00:13:25,894 --> 00:13:28,054 between you and I and your and your 361 00:13:28,054 --> 00:13:28,955 and your listeners 362 00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:31,980 that I've learned to you sometimes. Obviously, I, 363 00:13:31,980 --> 00:13:34,620 you know, I learned from very skilled engineer, 364 00:13:34,620 --> 00:13:36,460 but, no, I'm I'm not a technical person, 365 00:13:36,460 --> 00:13:39,259 business person. At one point after college, I 366 00:13:39,259 --> 00:13:40,779 had to do something. So I started working 367 00:13:40,779 --> 00:13:42,940 for the company. I really liked the, you 368 00:13:42,940 --> 00:13:46,115 know, the traveling aspect of it, connecting with 369 00:13:46,735 --> 00:13:48,115 with a lot of, culture. 370 00:13:48,654 --> 00:13:49,394 And then, 371 00:13:49,934 --> 00:13:51,554 thankfully, I would say, 372 00:13:51,934 --> 00:13:53,634 when I started working, really, 373 00:13:54,014 --> 00:13:54,514 the 374 00:13:55,855 --> 00:13:56,355 environmental 375 00:13:57,860 --> 00:14:00,740 attention for for the mobility, the eco mobility 376 00:14:00,740 --> 00:14:02,279 was really growing. So 377 00:14:02,899 --> 00:14:03,879 it was great, 378 00:14:04,820 --> 00:14:07,480 to to start working in in an environment 379 00:14:07,539 --> 00:14:09,379 where, again, it was going more and more 380 00:14:09,379 --> 00:14:09,879 towards 381 00:14:10,434 --> 00:14:14,514 sustainable mobility. Your company doesn't just concentrate on, 382 00:14:14,514 --> 00:14:17,174 no pun intended, natural gas, but also 383 00:14:17,634 --> 00:14:18,134 hydrogen? 384 00:14:18,595 --> 00:14:21,315 A little bit. Well, everything. So we're really 385 00:14:21,315 --> 00:14:24,434 technology neutral. Actually, today, we we here, we 386 00:14:24,434 --> 00:14:25,654 will launch the new 387 00:14:26,170 --> 00:14:26,910 new website, 388 00:14:27,610 --> 00:14:28,269 of landytechnologies, 389 00:14:29,450 --> 00:14:32,429 dot com. And, it it's it's really 390 00:14:33,210 --> 00:14:36,429 we're a technology neutral company. So we started 391 00:14:36,570 --> 00:14:38,970 from that technology because that's what that was 392 00:14:38,970 --> 00:14:39,870 what was available 393 00:14:40,345 --> 00:14:42,585 at that time. But then the know how 394 00:14:42,585 --> 00:14:46,365 with electronic mechatronic components really expanded 395 00:14:46,825 --> 00:14:48,605 into other technologies, which 396 00:14:49,304 --> 00:14:52,105 we the first evolution was with hydrogen and 397 00:14:52,105 --> 00:14:52,605 hydrogen, 398 00:14:53,225 --> 00:14:56,399 nitrogen fuel cell. We started working with General 399 00:14:56,399 --> 00:14:58,259 Motors in the mid 2000s, 400 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,039 who was a customer already of ours, and 401 00:15:03,039 --> 00:15:05,919 they chose us to develop some mechanical and 402 00:15:05,919 --> 00:15:08,579 electronic components for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles. 403 00:15:10,534 --> 00:15:13,414 So from then, hydrogen fuel cell fuel cell 404 00:15:13,414 --> 00:15:15,495 is an electric vehicle. So we really started 405 00:15:15,495 --> 00:15:15,995 to 406 00:15:17,174 --> 00:15:20,855 obtain know how also for for EVs, so 407 00:15:20,855 --> 00:15:21,355 developing 408 00:15:23,279 --> 00:15:26,679 electronic components for EVs. So today, we're really 409 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:28,740 we're really a technology company that 410 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:30,820 we we're experts 411 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,879 in in the, in in the different power 412 00:15:34,879 --> 00:15:37,705 trains. For example, in US, our main business 413 00:15:37,705 --> 00:15:40,345 is commercial vehicles. So we really understand commercial 414 00:15:40,345 --> 00:15:40,845 vehicles, 415 00:15:41,304 --> 00:15:43,485 and we can really guide customers. 416 00:15:44,585 --> 00:15:45,565 Okay. This 417 00:15:46,745 --> 00:15:49,384 is the best solution for you. I I 418 00:15:49,384 --> 00:15:52,019 think in in the future well, already now, 419 00:15:52,019 --> 00:15:52,519 but 420 00:15:53,220 --> 00:15:54,039 there will be 421 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:55,080 a variety 422 00:15:55,779 --> 00:15:56,360 of technologies 423 00:15:56,820 --> 00:16:00,360 where, you know, different powertrains, electrics, hydrogen, renewable 424 00:16:00,580 --> 00:16:03,320 natural gas, renewable fuels, synthetic fuels, 425 00:16:03,700 --> 00:16:06,120 all these different powertrains will coexist 426 00:16:07,375 --> 00:16:09,955 and with with the, you know, common denominator, 427 00:16:10,095 --> 00:16:13,134 which is, the, eco mobility, eco the eco 428 00:16:13,134 --> 00:16:13,634 friendliness. 429 00:16:15,615 --> 00:16:18,095 Every vehicle is different, every fleet is different, 430 00:16:18,095 --> 00:16:20,070 so they need to do different type of 431 00:16:20,389 --> 00:16:21,210 works, activities. 432 00:16:21,830 --> 00:16:22,149 And, 433 00:16:24,149 --> 00:16:26,250 we need to be really open minded 434 00:16:27,910 --> 00:16:29,289 and because, yeah, 435 00:16:30,070 --> 00:16:31,769 there's a technology for everything, 436 00:16:32,654 --> 00:16:34,274 not all the eggs in one basket. 437 00:16:34,894 --> 00:16:37,454 And, yeah, we, you know, we we help 438 00:16:37,454 --> 00:16:38,595 companies understanding 439 00:16:38,975 --> 00:16:41,214 what their needs are and what's this what 440 00:16:41,214 --> 00:16:42,754 what the sweet spot is. 441 00:16:43,615 --> 00:16:46,014 I imagine down the road, even though now 442 00:16:46,014 --> 00:16:48,299 it's commercial is the focus. And when you 443 00:16:48,299 --> 00:16:50,220 say that, I'm assuming you mean, like, trucking 444 00:16:50,220 --> 00:16:53,259 and things like that. Exactly. Mhmm. Yes. So 445 00:16:53,259 --> 00:16:55,679 down the road, when it does come to 446 00:16:55,740 --> 00:16:59,894 personal vehicles that everyday people might drive. I 447 00:16:59,894 --> 00:17:01,754 imagine it's gotta be difficult 448 00:17:02,375 --> 00:17:03,995 to bring people into 449 00:17:04,855 --> 00:17:06,775 even though it started way in the past, 450 00:17:06,775 --> 00:17:09,255 bring them into a future where they're comfortable 451 00:17:09,255 --> 00:17:10,075 with it because, 452 00:17:10,615 --> 00:17:12,454 you know, they hear things like hydrogen or 453 00:17:12,454 --> 00:17:14,339 even natural gas, like, oh, that makes houses 454 00:17:14,579 --> 00:17:16,679 explode or, you know, whatever that is. 455 00:17:17,059 --> 00:17:18,919 How do you help community 456 00:17:19,940 --> 00:17:20,919 get on board? 457 00:17:22,259 --> 00:17:23,859 Little by little, I think I mean, and 458 00:17:23,859 --> 00:17:25,619 I was listening to the podcast that you 459 00:17:25,619 --> 00:17:28,259 did recently with Ed Begley junior. Yes. And 460 00:17:28,259 --> 00:17:30,119 you said, you know, like, tiny steps. 461 00:17:30,794 --> 00:17:33,034 And and, I mean, I think, you know, 462 00:17:33,034 --> 00:17:34,494 really, it's, you know, 463 00:17:35,194 --> 00:17:37,674 there's pros and cons right now of all 464 00:17:37,674 --> 00:17:39,294 the technologies. Okay? 465 00:17:39,674 --> 00:17:41,454 So I think at one point, 466 00:17:42,394 --> 00:17:43,994 you have to as a as a company, 467 00:17:43,994 --> 00:17:45,355 as a fleet, as a person, you have 468 00:17:45,355 --> 00:17:47,029 to start somewhere. Okay? 469 00:17:47,330 --> 00:17:48,390 So you have 470 00:17:48,690 --> 00:17:51,029 you have you have options now. 471 00:17:52,049 --> 00:17:54,850 Some are better than others depending of what 472 00:17:54,850 --> 00:17:56,850 you do with your vehicle, if it whether 473 00:17:56,850 --> 00:17:58,150 if it's personal or commercial. 474 00:17:59,410 --> 00:17:59,910 But 475 00:18:00,375 --> 00:18:02,474 I I think, again, we need to push 476 00:18:02,695 --> 00:18:03,195 the, 477 00:18:04,055 --> 00:18:05,195 message of, 478 00:18:05,654 --> 00:18:06,394 the ecomobility 479 00:18:07,255 --> 00:18:09,335 and and being open minded. So I think, 480 00:18:09,335 --> 00:18:11,355 you know, again, little by little, 481 00:18:11,815 --> 00:18:13,734 you know, we all have to do our 482 00:18:13,734 --> 00:18:14,234 part 483 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:14,775 and, 484 00:18:16,170 --> 00:18:19,130 yeah, but and and learning and understanding really, 485 00:18:19,130 --> 00:18:21,850 okay, where's the sweet spot? And what what 486 00:18:21,850 --> 00:18:24,509 makes it more efficient from from the environmental 487 00:18:24,650 --> 00:18:25,150 standpoint? 488 00:18:25,850 --> 00:18:28,490 Is that why California was the choice of 489 00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:31,255 where to have the company? Because California being 490 00:18:31,255 --> 00:18:32,075 on the forefront. 491 00:18:32,375 --> 00:18:34,075 I I think they have a goal, right, 492 00:18:34,454 --> 00:18:36,535 that car at least for cars produced at 493 00:18:36,535 --> 00:18:38,454 at a certain year, they're going to be 494 00:18:38,454 --> 00:18:40,234 electric all the way? California 495 00:18:40,694 --> 00:18:42,454 historically has always been very, 496 00:18:43,669 --> 00:18:44,169 very 497 00:18:44,549 --> 00:18:46,549 attentive to, you know, the the the the 498 00:18:46,549 --> 00:18:47,690 environment, very 499 00:18:48,150 --> 00:18:49,289 close to this, 500 00:18:49,910 --> 00:18:50,809 to the 501 00:18:51,269 --> 00:18:53,049 to the evolution of eco mobility. 502 00:18:53,509 --> 00:18:56,710 So, California CAR, California Resource Board, which is 503 00:18:56,710 --> 00:18:58,869 the main agency in the automotive industry that 504 00:18:58,869 --> 00:18:59,325 really 505 00:19:00,284 --> 00:19:00,784 regulates 506 00:19:01,244 --> 00:19:01,904 the emission. 507 00:19:03,644 --> 00:19:06,044 Again, like, you know, my my grandfather was 508 00:19:06,044 --> 00:19:08,284 thinking about it 70 years ago, and and 509 00:19:08,284 --> 00:19:09,024 that's why 510 00:19:09,484 --> 00:19:11,244 we have always, we've always had a great 511 00:19:11,244 --> 00:19:13,505 relationship with these agencies. But, yeah, CARB 512 00:19:14,149 --> 00:19:14,549 is, 513 00:19:14,950 --> 00:19:16,169 based here in California. 514 00:19:16,789 --> 00:19:18,869 We thought that this was really the place 515 00:19:18,869 --> 00:19:20,009 the place to be. 516 00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:22,789 At that time, also, we've been here since 517 00:19:22,789 --> 00:19:23,289 2010. 518 00:19:23,589 --> 00:19:24,490 Really, the main, 519 00:19:26,149 --> 00:19:28,089 eco friendly solution was, 520 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:31,005 natural gas, which is now in California is 521 00:19:31,005 --> 00:19:32,065 almost entirely 522 00:19:32,524 --> 00:19:35,744 renewable natural gas. So coming from renewable resources. 523 00:19:36,605 --> 00:19:38,924 So the infrastructure was very well developed here 524 00:19:38,924 --> 00:19:39,585 in California, 525 00:19:39,964 --> 00:19:42,990 even for hydrogen, for example, now there's like 526 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:45,890 the infrastructure in California is probably 95% 527 00:19:46,349 --> 00:19:48,269 of all the of all compared to all 528 00:19:48,269 --> 00:19:48,849 the country. 529 00:19:49,150 --> 00:19:50,369 So California 530 00:19:50,750 --> 00:19:51,890 for an ecomobility 531 00:19:52,269 --> 00:19:53,809 company definitely was, 532 00:19:54,589 --> 00:19:56,109 the place of it, at least to have, 533 00:19:56,349 --> 00:19:58,130 to have the main the main hub. 534 00:19:58,765 --> 00:20:00,924 Yeah. Small office also in Michigan where we 535 00:20:00,924 --> 00:20:01,904 do mainly testing. 536 00:20:03,724 --> 00:20:05,884 But, yeah, I think this is really the 537 00:20:05,884 --> 00:20:07,825 the hub for advanced technologies. 538 00:20:08,845 --> 00:20:09,664 Knowing that 539 00:20:10,285 --> 00:20:13,440 petroleum is a a finite resource, maybe not 540 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,099 in my generation or your generation, but 541 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:17,220 eventually, 542 00:20:17,599 --> 00:20:19,519 there's a lot of people that are fighting 543 00:20:19,519 --> 00:20:22,179 hard to hold on to that, the lobbying 544 00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:24,179 and all of that to make the governmental 545 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,500 agencies sort of look away from 546 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:27,859 eco friendly 547 00:20:28,424 --> 00:20:28,924 scenarios. 548 00:20:29,384 --> 00:20:30,125 How do you 549 00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:33,545 butt heads with people like that? We've when 550 00:20:33,545 --> 00:20:35,305 you know there's a lot of money being 551 00:20:35,305 --> 00:20:38,045 poured in the opposite of what you're doing. 552 00:20:38,105 --> 00:20:39,945 That's right. That's right. I think, again, you 553 00:20:39,945 --> 00:20:42,940 know, it's based on for us, we're we're 554 00:20:42,940 --> 00:20:45,339 lucky to have this long history in the 555 00:20:45,339 --> 00:20:46,720 in the, ecomobility 556 00:20:47,259 --> 00:20:48,799 space, 70 years. 557 00:20:49,899 --> 00:20:51,359 So I think we have, 558 00:20:52,859 --> 00:20:54,480 again, based on our experience, 559 00:20:56,115 --> 00:20:58,434 we have a position, a platform where we 560 00:20:58,434 --> 00:20:58,934 can, 561 00:21:00,195 --> 00:21:01,255 educate people. 562 00:21:01,634 --> 00:21:04,035 We would like to educate people with based 563 00:21:04,035 --> 00:21:04,934 on our experience. 564 00:21:05,555 --> 00:21:07,075 Again, it goes back to 565 00:21:07,730 --> 00:21:08,789 we do our best, 566 00:21:09,730 --> 00:21:10,230 from 567 00:21:11,330 --> 00:21:12,630 techno technological 568 00:21:13,089 --> 00:21:13,589 neutrality 569 00:21:14,130 --> 00:21:14,630 standpoint 570 00:21:14,930 --> 00:21:16,710 because I think that's the best approach. 571 00:21:17,089 --> 00:21:18,849 Would you explain what that means to people? 572 00:21:18,849 --> 00:21:20,869 Because I don't know that that's necessarily 573 00:21:21,170 --> 00:21:21,670 intuitive. 574 00:21:22,184 --> 00:21:24,125 Okay. So when I say technologically, 575 00:21:24,664 --> 00:21:26,924 neutral means, like, okay. What is 576 00:21:27,704 --> 00:21:28,924 environmentally friendly 577 00:21:29,224 --> 00:21:29,964 for this, 578 00:21:30,424 --> 00:21:31,404 for this vehicle? 579 00:21:31,944 --> 00:21:35,539 Because for a a truck that has a 580 00:21:35,539 --> 00:21:37,559 crane or has a lot of equipment, 581 00:21:39,380 --> 00:21:42,259 a a certain technology could be eco friendly 582 00:21:42,259 --> 00:21:44,680 technology could be better than another. 583 00:21:45,059 --> 00:21:47,565 While there's companies that they say, oh, everything 584 00:21:47,565 --> 00:21:49,964 needs to be hydrogen, everything needs to be 585 00:21:49,964 --> 00:21:52,684 electric, everything needs to be natural gas, everything 586 00:21:52,684 --> 00:21:54,625 needs to be synthetic fuels. 587 00:21:55,164 --> 00:21:57,744 So there's all kinds of specialized 588 00:21:58,125 --> 00:22:00,284 companies that obviously they're doing their best to 589 00:22:00,284 --> 00:22:01,105 bring everybody 590 00:22:01,519 --> 00:22:03,460 on their side. Fortunately, 591 00:22:03,839 --> 00:22:06,099 because of our experience, we're able to, 592 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,599 you know, take take a step back and 593 00:22:09,599 --> 00:22:10,099 analyze, 594 00:22:11,039 --> 00:22:11,539 objectively, 595 00:22:12,399 --> 00:22:13,059 the whole, 596 00:22:13,679 --> 00:22:15,539 environment, the whole scenario. 597 00:22:16,335 --> 00:22:17,474 And so I think 598 00:22:17,775 --> 00:22:21,375 when companies, when fleets, also with people, they 599 00:22:21,375 --> 00:22:23,615 they say, okay. You know what? I wanna 600 00:22:23,615 --> 00:22:25,794 have, an eco friendly vehicle. 601 00:22:26,095 --> 00:22:28,015 They have to ask some questions. Okay. What 602 00:22:28,015 --> 00:22:29,775 do I do with this vehicle? Do I 603 00:22:29,775 --> 00:22:31,889 go from a to b and b to 604 00:22:31,889 --> 00:22:32,950 a every day? 605 00:22:33,329 --> 00:22:35,970 Work, home, work, home, or do I travel 606 00:22:35,970 --> 00:22:36,549 a lot? 607 00:22:37,250 --> 00:22:38,389 Do I have a truck? 608 00:22:39,089 --> 00:22:41,089 Or if I'm a company, what kind of 609 00:22:41,089 --> 00:22:43,169 trucks do I have? So you have to 610 00:22:43,169 --> 00:22:44,549 ask your questions because 611 00:22:45,434 --> 00:22:48,234 every technology is different, every eco friendly technology 612 00:22:48,234 --> 00:22:50,474 is different, and there's the sweet spot for 613 00:22:50,474 --> 00:22:51,694 every kind of application. 614 00:22:51,994 --> 00:22:54,234 So, again, with the with the open mind, 615 00:22:54,234 --> 00:22:55,134 I think technology, 616 00:22:56,154 --> 00:22:56,654 neutral 617 00:22:57,194 --> 00:22:59,434 can be the equivalent of as an open 618 00:22:59,434 --> 00:23:01,529 mind. Go there with an open mind, with 619 00:23:01,529 --> 00:23:04,669 a common denominator. Okay. I wanna be sustainable. 620 00:23:05,369 --> 00:23:06,990 I think for the average person, 621 00:23:07,769 --> 00:23:08,269 they 622 00:23:08,730 --> 00:23:11,130 they just assume, oh, it's gonna be this 623 00:23:11,130 --> 00:23:13,369 one way or that highway. Again, no pun 624 00:23:13,369 --> 00:23:13,869 intended. 625 00:23:14,215 --> 00:23:15,994 All across the board. And 626 00:23:17,015 --> 00:23:18,775 this way, it's like, no. There's lots of 627 00:23:18,775 --> 00:23:21,255 options. Exactly. Options are good. It makes people 628 00:23:21,255 --> 00:23:23,335 feel safer and more comfortable and, like, they 629 00:23:23,335 --> 00:23:24,235 have more autonomy. 630 00:23:24,934 --> 00:23:28,330 How does a natural gas engine work exactly? 631 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:30,789 Well, natural gas is a fossil fuel. Now 632 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:32,970 California, for example, has 99% 633 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:35,430 of renewable natural gas, which is not a 634 00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:36,410 fossil fuel. 635 00:23:36,869 --> 00:23:39,029 And so in this instance, for example, like, 636 00:23:39,029 --> 00:23:40,484 the way why it's it's, 637 00:23:41,605 --> 00:23:43,045 the the the great things about it is 638 00:23:43,045 --> 00:23:46,825 that you are net zero almost negative. So, 639 00:23:46,964 --> 00:23:48,265 essentially, you capture, 640 00:23:50,164 --> 00:23:52,984 the all the emissions coming from waste, agricultural 641 00:23:53,285 --> 00:23:56,210 waste, you know, food waste and so on, 642 00:23:56,210 --> 00:23:59,429 all that waste that would normally emit, 643 00:24:00,289 --> 00:24:02,069 pollutant emissions in the atmosphere. 644 00:24:03,009 --> 00:24:05,089 In that case, you capture them, so you 645 00:24:05,089 --> 00:24:07,569 remove them from the atmosphere. So you're already, 646 00:24:07,569 --> 00:24:08,069 like, 647 00:24:08,565 --> 00:24:10,105 doing something great there, 648 00:24:10,484 --> 00:24:11,845 and then you put it in a in 649 00:24:11,845 --> 00:24:12,505 a vehicle 650 00:24:13,524 --> 00:24:16,105 and and you're cutting emissions, 651 00:24:17,044 --> 00:24:18,585 you're cutting emissions there. 652 00:24:20,085 --> 00:24:21,764 So essentially that's how it was. There are 653 00:24:21,764 --> 00:24:24,085 some vehicles that they are born already with 654 00:24:24,085 --> 00:24:24,299 it, 655 00:24:25,259 --> 00:24:27,600 with companies that they make already engines 656 00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:30,380 and and or there's vehicles that you can 657 00:24:30,380 --> 00:24:30,880 transform. 658 00:24:31,180 --> 00:24:31,680 And, 659 00:24:32,299 --> 00:24:34,299 yeah, we you know, it's possible to do 660 00:24:34,299 --> 00:24:34,799 both. 661 00:24:35,340 --> 00:24:35,840 Yeah. 662 00:24:36,554 --> 00:24:38,154 What do you think your grandfather would say 663 00:24:38,154 --> 00:24:40,335 about the state of the industry today? 664 00:24:40,954 --> 00:24:42,474 I think he would be very excited. I 665 00:24:42,474 --> 00:24:44,575 think he he said knowing 666 00:24:44,875 --> 00:24:46,494 the stories that I've heard, 667 00:24:47,194 --> 00:24:49,034 he he said would spin and he would 668 00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:50,095 jump on any 669 00:24:50,429 --> 00:24:50,929 any, 670 00:24:51,549 --> 00:24:54,750 you know, any discussion of any, you know, 671 00:24:54,750 --> 00:24:56,929 he would be still, I imagine, 672 00:24:58,669 --> 00:25:00,509 if you could home and then thinking about, 673 00:25:00,509 --> 00:25:02,509 okay. Oh, this is, that let me look 674 00:25:02,509 --> 00:25:04,349 at this, hydrogen truck. Let me look at 675 00:25:04,349 --> 00:25:06,404 this EV truck or this EV car or 676 00:25:06,404 --> 00:25:09,304 this, you know, renewable natural gas or whatever. 677 00:25:09,684 --> 00:25:10,825 The biobank. So, 678 00:25:12,005 --> 00:25:14,585 yeah, I'm sure it would be very excited 679 00:25:14,964 --> 00:25:15,464 about 680 00:25:16,884 --> 00:25:18,505 this new team in history. 681 00:25:19,299 --> 00:25:21,619 Is there a plan to to get the 682 00:25:21,619 --> 00:25:22,519 average person 683 00:25:23,299 --> 00:25:23,799 excited 684 00:25:24,579 --> 00:25:27,000 now before you even roll out those programs, 685 00:25:27,140 --> 00:25:29,779 or are you just waiting until you show 686 00:25:29,779 --> 00:25:31,240 that it works with the fleets? 687 00:25:31,974 --> 00:25:34,694 Well, I think well, nobody we're already working 688 00:25:34,694 --> 00:25:37,174 with, with cars. I think we're we're we're 689 00:25:37,174 --> 00:25:40,554 getting there, again, you know, tiny steps. 690 00:25:41,014 --> 00:25:42,774 Yeah. But but yeah. But but that's that's 691 00:25:42,774 --> 00:25:44,615 right. Because I remember when I when when 692 00:25:44,615 --> 00:25:45,974 I was listening to the podcast, I said, 693 00:25:45,974 --> 00:25:48,269 yeah. That's, you know, that's that's true. Little 694 00:25:48,269 --> 00:25:50,509 by little. But that's the direction. I don't 695 00:25:50,509 --> 00:25:51,170 see us 696 00:25:51,549 --> 00:25:52,289 going backwards. 697 00:25:53,070 --> 00:25:55,549 Again, we're we're we're getting there. We're getting 698 00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:58,109 there. How fast, you know, that I don't 699 00:25:58,109 --> 00:25:59,950 know. I don't have a crystal ball. I 700 00:25:59,950 --> 00:26:01,035 get the tarot cards. 701 00:26:01,434 --> 00:26:04,095 Yeah. Exactly. You know? There's this 702 00:26:04,474 --> 00:26:07,195 you can't predict nature and and and 703 00:26:07,914 --> 00:26:08,414 but 704 00:26:08,875 --> 00:26:11,275 that's definitely the direction, and that's where we're 705 00:26:11,275 --> 00:26:11,775 going. 706 00:26:12,555 --> 00:26:15,055 How fast that we will see. 707 00:26:15,849 --> 00:26:17,849 I'm so cur I'm a friend of mine 708 00:26:17,849 --> 00:26:20,490 actually has a hydrogen cell car, and it's 709 00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:22,329 the first one that I'd seen up goes 710 00:26:22,329 --> 00:26:23,789 and personal. It's very 711 00:26:24,089 --> 00:26:26,250 slick. I cannot remember the kind of car 712 00:26:26,250 --> 00:26:26,829 it was, 713 00:26:27,289 --> 00:26:29,025 but he was so excited because he said 714 00:26:29,025 --> 00:26:30,305 it was going to save him a lot 715 00:26:30,305 --> 00:26:32,625 of money in the long run. Let's talk 716 00:26:32,625 --> 00:26:35,424 let's talk cash. Cash is king. It's tricky. 717 00:26:35,424 --> 00:26:36,164 It's tricky. 718 00:26:37,664 --> 00:26:39,924 Again, even there, it all depends 719 00:26:40,225 --> 00:26:42,005 on on on your mission, 720 00:26:42,569 --> 00:26:43,950 on your needs 721 00:26:44,409 --> 00:26:47,609 because there's pros and cons for for everything. 722 00:26:47,609 --> 00:26:49,069 Like, you just mentioned hydrogen, 723 00:26:49,529 --> 00:26:50,750 hydrogen fuel cell. 724 00:26:51,690 --> 00:26:53,529 And first of all, I mean, I don't 725 00:26:53,529 --> 00:26:55,414 wanna get feel free to stop me anytime 726 00:26:55,414 --> 00:26:57,894 because I don't wanna get technical, especially Technical. 727 00:26:57,894 --> 00:26:59,974 I want technical. Bring on the technical. I'm 728 00:26:59,974 --> 00:27:02,214 not a technical person, but, you know, there's 729 00:27:02,214 --> 00:27:05,755 hydrogen fuel cell, which is, a zero emission, 730 00:27:06,134 --> 00:27:06,634 vehicle 731 00:27:07,579 --> 00:27:08,079 that, 732 00:27:08,859 --> 00:27:09,359 functions 733 00:27:09,740 --> 00:27:10,240 as 734 00:27:10,619 --> 00:27:13,759 an electric vehicle, but instead of having batteries 735 00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:16,059 as this fuel cell, which is kind of 736 00:27:16,059 --> 00:27:17,759 like a battery, let's say, but 737 00:27:18,059 --> 00:27:18,559 it's 738 00:27:19,180 --> 00:27:20,240 fueled by hydrogen 739 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:22,400 and 740 00:27:23,495 --> 00:27:26,535 makes the vehicle run as a zero emission 741 00:27:26,535 --> 00:27:29,275 vehicle. But then there's also hydrogen internal combustion 742 00:27:29,335 --> 00:27:31,515 engine, and that's more similar 743 00:27:31,894 --> 00:27:33,355 to what we use, like 744 00:27:33,975 --> 00:27:35,755 a gasoline vehicle or another 745 00:27:36,569 --> 00:27:38,829 type of fuel. So there's there's 2, 746 00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,849 varieties also there, and there's pros and cons 747 00:27:41,849 --> 00:27:42,909 with with both. 748 00:27:43,529 --> 00:27:45,230 Hydrogen is still expensive 749 00:27:45,690 --> 00:27:46,409 as as, 750 00:27:47,450 --> 00:27:49,210 in, you know, at the station, at the 751 00:27:49,210 --> 00:27:50,109 filling station. 752 00:27:50,809 --> 00:27:51,309 So, 753 00:27:51,694 --> 00:27:52,355 you know, 754 00:27:52,894 --> 00:27:55,054 someone who decides to go there, Rodney, needs 755 00:27:55,054 --> 00:27:57,615 to understand that, okay, hydrogen is is, you 756 00:27:57,615 --> 00:27:58,835 know, is a bit expensive, 757 00:27:59,775 --> 00:28:00,515 right now. 758 00:28:02,174 --> 00:28:05,214 And then, it there's a big difference between 759 00:28:05,214 --> 00:28:09,269 passenger vehicles and and trucks. Trucks to transform 760 00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:09,990 a truck 761 00:28:10,849 --> 00:28:12,470 is very, very expensive. 762 00:28:13,570 --> 00:28:17,269 New OEM made, OEM essential car makers, 763 00:28:17,970 --> 00:28:21,269 original equipment manufacturers. So there are some companies 764 00:28:22,130 --> 00:28:22,609 out there 765 00:28:23,464 --> 00:28:25,305 I don't know if we can name names, 766 00:28:25,305 --> 00:28:27,384 but I had no money from anyone, so 767 00:28:27,384 --> 00:28:29,464 we can say whatever we want. No. And 768 00:28:29,464 --> 00:28:31,065 that's what I like of your buckets because 769 00:28:31,065 --> 00:28:32,424 it's kinda like free flow, but, you know, 770 00:28:32,424 --> 00:28:34,505 I never Yeah. I never I never know. 771 00:28:34,505 --> 00:28:37,000 But anyways, yeah, there's, like, truck companies there 772 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,480 with the go, hydrogen fuel cell, very, very 773 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:39,980 expensive. 774 00:28:40,599 --> 00:28:41,099 So, 775 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:42,700 and the infrastructure 776 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,400 definitely needs to be developed. Now the, 777 00:28:45,799 --> 00:28:46,700 current administration 778 00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:49,500 issued, a very important, 779 00:28:50,825 --> 00:28:51,945 how can I call it, 780 00:28:53,305 --> 00:28:54,205 big program 781 00:28:54,585 --> 00:28:55,325 to simulate 782 00:28:55,785 --> 00:28:57,404 the hydrogen infrastructure, 783 00:28:57,945 --> 00:28:58,445 $7,000,000,000 784 00:29:00,424 --> 00:29:01,724 to simulate the 785 00:29:02,279 --> 00:29:05,320 the hydrogen the hydrogen industry? So there's definitely 786 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:06,700 a push there from the government, 787 00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,320 but, yeah, the infrastructure needs to needs to 788 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,380 develop. There's it's somehow developing in California. There's 789 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,715 almost zero outside California, but it's growing. And 790 00:29:15,715 --> 00:29:17,875 as a company, actually, we we are involved 791 00:29:17,875 --> 00:29:21,015 also in the infrastructure piece with with technologies 792 00:29:21,634 --> 00:29:22,134 for, 793 00:29:22,835 --> 00:29:25,494 station, filling station, hydrogen filling station. 794 00:29:25,955 --> 00:29:27,795 So, yeah, cost is tricky. It cost is 795 00:29:27,795 --> 00:29:29,789 tricky. There's, you know, even with the, 796 00:29:30,269 --> 00:29:32,590 there's always a premium for sure if you 797 00:29:32,590 --> 00:29:33,410 wanna go, 798 00:29:34,350 --> 00:29:37,150 eco friendly, whether you you have a car, 799 00:29:37,150 --> 00:29:38,830 you wanna buy a car, or in the 800 00:29:38,830 --> 00:29:41,730 commercial eco space, you wanna transform your vehicles, 801 00:29:42,065 --> 00:29:43,684 or you wanna buy brand new vehicles, 802 00:29:44,545 --> 00:29:47,345 there's always a premium. How much further will 803 00:29:47,345 --> 00:29:50,244 a cell go versus an EV versus gasoline? 804 00:29:51,184 --> 00:29:53,285 The range, for example, with hydrogen, 805 00:29:53,904 --> 00:29:55,765 it's better because you have 806 00:29:56,384 --> 00:29:58,740 more range. And you know, in terms of 807 00:29:58,740 --> 00:29:59,240 filling, 808 00:30:00,259 --> 00:30:03,059 refilling your vehicle, it's it's quicker because it's 809 00:30:03,059 --> 00:30:04,440 very similar to gasoline. 810 00:30:04,820 --> 00:30:06,840 But then, you know, from again, 811 00:30:07,460 --> 00:30:10,019 differ big difference, commercial vehicle to passenger vehicles. 812 00:30:10,019 --> 00:30:11,400 But passenger's vehicle, 813 00:30:12,085 --> 00:30:12,825 an EV, 814 00:30:13,365 --> 00:30:16,105 the, the operating costs are much lower. 815 00:30:16,965 --> 00:30:17,865 The infrastructure, 816 00:30:18,325 --> 00:30:21,045 it's easier because you can you can charge 817 00:30:21,045 --> 00:30:24,105 a vehicle in your home. So it's definitely 818 00:30:24,164 --> 00:30:24,904 it's definitely 819 00:30:25,445 --> 00:30:25,945 much 820 00:30:27,130 --> 00:30:28,730 easier in terms of, k. How do I 821 00:30:28,730 --> 00:30:31,849 go about going places with with my vehicle? 822 00:30:31,849 --> 00:30:33,849 The government subsidies helps with that. I mean, 823 00:30:33,849 --> 00:30:35,369 10 I don't even I don't even remember 824 00:30:35,369 --> 00:30:37,609 when EVs hit the market when they started, 825 00:30:37,609 --> 00:30:39,929 but there was nowhere to take them. You 826 00:30:39,929 --> 00:30:42,184 couldn't go outside of, I mean, I imagine 827 00:30:42,184 --> 00:30:43,785 it was pretty much California and that was 828 00:30:43,785 --> 00:30:44,765 it. And then 829 00:30:45,224 --> 00:30:46,605 now there's, of course, 830 00:30:46,984 --> 00:30:49,305 places all across the country where you can 831 00:30:49,305 --> 00:30:50,445 juice up your battery 832 00:30:50,904 --> 00:30:53,005 and home, which you couldn't do that before. 833 00:30:53,224 --> 00:30:55,545 Exactly. So that is growing. And I think, 834 00:30:55,545 --> 00:30:56,819 I mean, all the infrastructures of all the 835 00:30:58,419 --> 00:31:01,619 technologies are growing, so that's definitely a good 836 00:31:01,619 --> 00:31:02,119 sign. 837 00:31:03,299 --> 00:31:05,539 And in terms of cost, there's differences, and 838 00:31:05,539 --> 00:31:07,619 I think it all depends on your friend 839 00:31:07,619 --> 00:31:09,079 as a hydrogen fuel cell, 840 00:31:09,539 --> 00:31:10,039 vehicle. 841 00:31:10,705 --> 00:31:13,345 I imagine he, you know, he he did 842 00:31:13,345 --> 00:31:16,065 his homework, and I imagine he lives close 843 00:31:16,065 --> 00:31:17,845 to hydrogen fueling station. 844 00:31:18,465 --> 00:31:19,904 And if you don't have 845 00:31:20,225 --> 00:31:20,965 if you don't 846 00:31:21,585 --> 00:31:22,085 travel 847 00:31:22,465 --> 00:31:24,069 that much, well, then, 848 00:31:24,649 --> 00:31:27,250 then that's great. And I know that there 849 00:31:27,250 --> 00:31:30,049 were a lot of incentives for for, hydrogen 850 00:31:30,049 --> 00:31:30,950 fuel cell cars, 851 00:31:31,569 --> 00:31:34,210 and that helped. I mean, the I thought 852 00:31:34,369 --> 00:31:36,210 I think that was probably a factor for 853 00:31:36,210 --> 00:31:38,414 your friend. Again, we all have to find 854 00:31:38,414 --> 00:31:39,474 our sweet spot, 855 00:31:39,775 --> 00:31:40,914 and we gotta start, 856 00:31:41,934 --> 00:31:44,835 somewhere. So This might be a dumb question. 857 00:31:44,974 --> 00:31:47,214 Forgive me, and forgive me, mister Hilly, my 858 00:31:47,214 --> 00:31:50,570 chemistry teacher from 10th grade. If water is 859 00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:52,490 h two o, which is 2 hydrogen Oh, 860 00:31:52,490 --> 00:31:54,809 now you're getting too technical already for me. 861 00:31:54,809 --> 00:31:57,289 Yeah? With with the with the chemical. Oh, 862 00:31:57,289 --> 00:31:59,690 okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. I wondered if 863 00:31:59,690 --> 00:32:01,850 you could break down water in order to 864 00:32:01,850 --> 00:32:02,670 create this 865 00:32:03,065 --> 00:32:04,444 hydrogen, like, ultimately 866 00:32:04,904 --> 00:32:06,585 Yeah. Yeah. You can you you can use 867 00:32:06,585 --> 00:32:07,805 high you can use water, 868 00:32:08,505 --> 00:32:11,144 to produce hydrogen and that's and that's, with 869 00:32:11,144 --> 00:32:14,345 the electrolysis, that's called the green hydrogen because 870 00:32:14,345 --> 00:32:14,845 also 871 00:32:15,224 --> 00:32:15,964 one aspect 872 00:32:17,049 --> 00:32:18,490 of, of of hydro one of the debates 873 00:32:18,490 --> 00:32:20,330 is that, yeah, I mean, hydrogen fuel cell 874 00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:21,710 is it's it's clean 875 00:32:23,210 --> 00:32:25,150 if the hydrogen is produced 876 00:32:25,609 --> 00:32:27,309 a certain way with, 877 00:32:27,850 --> 00:32:28,350 renewable 878 00:32:28,809 --> 00:32:29,309 sources, 879 00:32:30,005 --> 00:32:32,105 like water for example, like like, 880 00:32:32,725 --> 00:32:33,225 solar. 881 00:32:34,005 --> 00:32:36,005 I like I didn't know, like again, going 882 00:32:36,005 --> 00:32:37,845 back to, Ed Begley, they did they had, 883 00:32:37,845 --> 00:32:39,605 like, the solar oven, and I I didn't 884 00:32:39,605 --> 00:32:41,684 even know that they they they were doing, 885 00:32:41,684 --> 00:32:43,429 you know, things like that. But anyway, so, 886 00:32:43,429 --> 00:32:45,210 yeah, solar can be used, 887 00:32:45,910 --> 00:32:46,970 to produce hydrogen. 888 00:32:47,670 --> 00:32:49,450 Right now, it's it's very 889 00:32:49,990 --> 00:32:52,569 limited, the green hydrogen production, 890 00:32:53,109 --> 00:32:55,589 but they're they're pushing it to, you know, 891 00:32:55,589 --> 00:32:57,345 to to go that direction. Then, you know, 892 00:32:57,345 --> 00:32:59,224 we have the blue hydrogen, which is produced 893 00:32:59,224 --> 00:33:00,525 with some fossil fuels. 894 00:33:00,904 --> 00:33:03,384 So you have pros and cons there. Even 895 00:33:03,384 --> 00:33:05,384 with renewable natural gas, we have pros and 896 00:33:05,384 --> 00:33:07,085 cons like with with the EVs. 897 00:33:09,450 --> 00:33:11,529 There are pros like in life, there's pros 898 00:33:11,529 --> 00:33:12,750 and cons in everything, 899 00:33:13,289 --> 00:33:15,130 and you you need to you need to 900 00:33:15,130 --> 00:33:16,349 find the most, 901 00:33:17,130 --> 00:33:19,549 effective solution for what you need 902 00:33:19,929 --> 00:33:20,429 and 903 00:33:20,809 --> 00:33:21,950 but start somewhere. 904 00:33:22,355 --> 00:33:24,695 Are motorcycles gonna run on this stuff too? 905 00:33:24,914 --> 00:33:25,474 What is, 906 00:33:26,035 --> 00:33:28,234 we actually globally work with the with the 907 00:33:28,355 --> 00:33:31,234 some in in some countries, in India, especially 908 00:33:31,234 --> 00:33:33,154 where they have all the 3 wheelers and 909 00:33:33,154 --> 00:33:35,494 then, they they use a lot of motorcycles. 910 00:33:35,875 --> 00:33:39,210 There's propane 3 wheelers, there's natural gas, 911 00:33:40,150 --> 00:33:43,029 3 wheelers, there's electric 3 wheelers, there's hydrogen. 912 00:33:43,029 --> 00:33:43,529 So, 913 00:33:43,910 --> 00:33:45,609 yeah, definitely. I mean, I think, 914 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:48,089 even for motorcycle, 915 00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:49,369 you will continue, 916 00:33:50,275 --> 00:33:52,295 you will continue to see a growth 917 00:33:52,674 --> 00:33:56,055 in, in alternatives and more eco friendly, 918 00:33:56,914 --> 00:33:57,815 more eco friendly 919 00:33:58,914 --> 00:33:59,414 solution. 920 00:33:59,954 --> 00:34:00,454 And 921 00:34:00,835 --> 00:34:02,515 and we all do our part. I mean, 922 00:34:02,515 --> 00:34:04,529 you know, we could also we could also 923 00:34:04,529 --> 00:34:06,529 argue that having a vintage car or a 924 00:34:06,529 --> 00:34:07,029 vintage, 925 00:34:07,650 --> 00:34:10,930 you know, motorcycle, it's sustainable because it's there. 926 00:34:10,930 --> 00:34:12,230 You don't buy new, 927 00:34:13,809 --> 00:34:15,650 you don't buy it's kinda like it's kinda 928 00:34:15,650 --> 00:34:17,809 like fashion. You know? You can, you know, 929 00:34:17,809 --> 00:34:20,094 if you vintage is is is very 930 00:34:20,875 --> 00:34:22,014 sustain. My wife has 931 00:34:22,315 --> 00:34:23,614 a sustainable fashion 932 00:34:24,074 --> 00:34:26,014 business, so I I Oh, 933 00:34:26,875 --> 00:34:28,474 what is it? What's it called? We can 934 00:34:28,474 --> 00:34:29,454 plug her here. 935 00:34:30,155 --> 00:34:33,449 It's Erad PR. She's she's a fashion PR 936 00:34:33,449 --> 00:34:34,909 company only for sustainable, 937 00:34:35,690 --> 00:34:36,101 fashions, 938 00:34:36,512 --> 00:34:39,369 sustainable. I love it. Okay. So, yeah, so 939 00:34:39,369 --> 00:34:41,849 also with cars, you know, like, vintage cars 940 00:34:41,849 --> 00:34:43,150 are in a way sustainable. 941 00:34:43,769 --> 00:34:44,269 So 942 00:34:44,664 --> 00:34:47,244 there's a lot of angles and the common 943 00:34:47,464 --> 00:34:48,605 the common denominator, 944 00:34:50,025 --> 00:34:50,684 should be, 945 00:34:52,505 --> 00:34:53,005 sustainability. 946 00:34:53,944 --> 00:34:56,025 Yeah. That's the word of the the word 947 00:34:56,025 --> 00:34:58,559 of the millennia, I guess. Exactly. From of 948 00:34:58,559 --> 00:35:00,559 us from from the environment standpoint, from the 949 00:35:00,559 --> 00:35:02,099 economy standpoint, because, 950 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,300 you know, 951 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,700 spending also, like, companies that they they overspend 952 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,380 and they they they 953 00:35:10,155 --> 00:35:10,894 go bankrupt 954 00:35:11,835 --> 00:35:14,715 to find certain things that to develop certain 955 00:35:14,715 --> 00:35:16,715 things that they think are, you know, eco 956 00:35:16,715 --> 00:35:19,215 friendly and cool, but then they're not sustainable 957 00:35:19,355 --> 00:35:21,914 from the financial standpoint, would then the whole 958 00:35:21,914 --> 00:35:22,414 circle, 959 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,380 is not is not really, 960 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,179 it's it's not really reasonable. 961 00:35:29,199 --> 00:35:30,960 So I think, you know, we gotta look 962 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,280 at all the angles, but not nothing is 963 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:33,780 perfect. 964 00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:36,284 So where do you drive? I have I 965 00:35:36,284 --> 00:35:38,444 have a hydrogen fuel cell car, so probably 966 00:35:38,444 --> 00:35:40,764 the same car that your friend has. And 967 00:35:40,764 --> 00:35:42,684 then I also have a gasoline car for 968 00:35:42,684 --> 00:35:43,264 the family. 969 00:35:43,565 --> 00:35:44,065 And, 970 00:35:45,164 --> 00:35:45,565 so, 971 00:35:46,045 --> 00:35:46,545 yeah. 972 00:35:47,244 --> 00:35:49,644 That's great. Not an Italian car, though. Not 973 00:35:49,644 --> 00:35:50,784 an Italian car. 974 00:35:51,090 --> 00:35:53,090 Actually, no. My my wife has Italian car. 975 00:35:53,090 --> 00:35:55,410 Speed of sorrow, and she'll kill me. Yeah. 976 00:35:55,410 --> 00:35:57,670 She has a a vintage Fiat Spyder. 977 00:35:58,050 --> 00:35:58,550 So 978 00:35:59,010 --> 00:35:59,510 yeah. 979 00:36:00,530 --> 00:36:01,030 Beautiful. 980 00:36:01,410 --> 00:36:03,010 Yeah. Yeah. I drove it the other night 981 00:36:03,010 --> 00:36:05,090 because it was so hot, and I'll drive 982 00:36:05,090 --> 00:36:06,070 it in the evening. 983 00:36:06,934 --> 00:36:08,635 I'm glad she lets you drive it. 984 00:36:08,934 --> 00:36:10,795 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes. 985 00:36:11,574 --> 00:36:14,054 Tell people how they can find you and 986 00:36:14,054 --> 00:36:16,934 the company and if they have questions, the 987 00:36:16,934 --> 00:36:19,349 best way of an outreach. Yeah. We just 988 00:36:19,349 --> 00:36:21,369 launched today our new website, landytechnologies.com. 989 00:36:22,630 --> 00:36:24,389 Yeah. That's the website. If they have any 990 00:36:24,389 --> 00:36:26,170 question, there's info at landytechnologies.com, 991 00:36:27,349 --> 00:36:28,650 and then and, 992 00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:31,425 you know, you're welcome to you know, you're 993 00:36:31,425 --> 00:36:33,744 welcome here. Welcome. Any questions, if you have 994 00:36:33,744 --> 00:36:35,585 any questions, if you have any listener, like, 995 00:36:35,585 --> 00:36:37,925 you know, put them in touch with me, 996 00:36:38,065 --> 00:36:39,824 and, I'd be happy to, 997 00:36:40,465 --> 00:36:41,125 to answer 998 00:36:41,664 --> 00:36:42,724 all kinds of questions. 999 00:36:43,860 --> 00:36:46,420 We have an academy also that was founded 1000 00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:48,599 a long time ago in in Italy for 1001 00:36:48,820 --> 00:36:51,460 the eco mobility studies where we would have 1002 00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:51,960 classes 1003 00:36:52,579 --> 00:36:54,360 about really, eco mobility 1004 00:36:54,660 --> 00:36:56,655 in in general technology would have 1005 00:36:57,054 --> 00:36:59,775 trainings for for our product, but also, like, 1006 00:36:59,775 --> 00:37:01,614 classes for, you know, to learn about all 1007 00:37:01,614 --> 00:37:03,315 the different technologies. And, 1008 00:37:03,775 --> 00:37:06,494 since we established Lendi here in United States, 1009 00:37:06,494 --> 00:37:09,135 I've tried to make as many connections as 1010 00:37:09,135 --> 00:37:10,114 possible with 1011 00:37:10,539 --> 00:37:11,440 with universities. 1012 00:37:13,259 --> 00:37:15,420 We worked a little bit with UCLA in, 1013 00:37:16,139 --> 00:37:17,279 Institute of Environment. 1014 00:37:17,579 --> 00:37:19,519 The goal would be to really create curriculum, 1015 00:37:20,619 --> 00:37:21,119 for 1016 00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:23,519 the eco eco mobility studies, 1017 00:37:24,299 --> 00:37:26,159 whether if it's engineering or 1018 00:37:27,304 --> 00:37:27,804 or 1019 00:37:28,184 --> 00:37:29,005 something more, 1020 00:37:29,784 --> 00:37:31,644 you know, business or 1021 00:37:33,784 --> 00:37:35,005 but with with 1022 00:37:35,385 --> 00:37:36,924 with the ecomobility 1023 00:37:37,545 --> 00:37:38,424 as the main, 1024 00:37:38,824 --> 00:37:40,924 subject because I don't think there's anything 1025 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,260 out there. So 1026 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:44,660 Yeah. There are a lot of summer programs 1027 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,340 in the US for kids, 1028 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,000 elementary kids and junior high school kids to 1029 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,640 go and learn all about science. My the 1030 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,480 one I went to in Washington State was 1031 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,865 called x, x, Operation Exploration. 1032 00:37:57,805 --> 00:37:59,644 And so we spent the summer doing all 1033 00:37:59,644 --> 00:38:01,805 sorts of projects and learning how things worked 1034 00:38:01,805 --> 00:38:03,485 and taking them apart and putting them together, 1035 00:38:03,485 --> 00:38:03,985 and 1036 00:38:04,285 --> 00:38:06,125 kids love learning about that stuff. And that's 1037 00:38:06,125 --> 00:38:08,449 like planting that seed early. You know? Exactly. 1038 00:38:08,449 --> 00:38:10,929 Exactly. So yeah. You know, little by little, 1039 00:38:10,929 --> 00:38:12,690 I think, you know, definitely the new generation 1040 00:38:12,690 --> 00:38:14,529 will will be more conscious about all of 1041 00:38:14,529 --> 00:38:16,210 this. Mhmm. And, 1042 00:38:17,969 --> 00:38:20,289 but yeah. No. Seriously. I mean, I'm always 1043 00:38:20,289 --> 00:38:22,309 available for questions and yeah. 1044 00:38:22,885 --> 00:38:24,644 Thank you so much for being on the 1045 00:38:24,644 --> 00:38:26,805 show. I really appreciate it. Thank you very 1046 00:38:26,805 --> 00:38:29,545 much. Yeah. And I know that this technology 1047 00:38:29,845 --> 00:38:31,845 can you can get down in the weeds 1048 00:38:31,845 --> 00:38:34,025 with it, but it's good to 1049 00:38:34,659 --> 00:38:36,980 just sort of put it into people's mind 1050 00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:39,719 to get it something to think about that, 1051 00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:42,739 you know, as they're purchasing their vehicles or 1052 00:38:42,739 --> 00:38:44,820 even thinking about what maybe they'll get for 1053 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:45,719 their own children, 1054 00:38:46,179 --> 00:38:49,295 that that is something that will be in 1055 00:38:49,295 --> 00:38:51,234 the back of their mind planting the seed. 1056 00:38:51,534 --> 00:38:52,034 Exactly. 1057 00:38:52,574 --> 00:38:55,315 Exactly. Yeah. Thank you for listening, everybody. 1058 00:38:56,255 --> 00:38:59,315 Bye. Take care. Bye. Bye. 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