Hey, humans. How's it going?
Susan Ruth here. Thanks for listening to another
episode
of Hey Human podcast.
This is episode 428,
and my guest is Andrea
Landi.
Andrea
is the president of Landi Technologies,
a multinational
eco mobility company that is dedicated
to moving the natural gas industry forward and
to support advocacy
for public policies that advance alternative
vehicles and fuels.
Landi wants to make low emission cars and
small trucks the standard around the world
with alternative fuel systems like compressed natural gas,
renewable natural gas and hydrogen.
Really interesting conversation. A friend of mine actually
drives a car that is run on hydrogen
and loves it, first of all.
And
after talking with Andrea, I have to say
I went into a bit of a deep
dive,
learned a lot more. I really recommend you
do that as well. Such an interesting
an interesting man, first of all, and I
think what they're doing is really exciting.
Landi Technologies is really exciting,
and I think it's necessary. I think we're
moving in that direction.
So I'm excited for you to hear this
episode and
do do your own deep diving and learning
more about
alternative
ways to make a car go.
You know what they call a car with
an s on it?
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Andrea, welcome to Hey Human.
Hi, Susan. Thank you very much for having
me here. Since we got introduced,
I listened to, your podcast and some of
your episodes and,
congrats. I really like it. I mean, I
really love the format and the fact that,
you know, you interview
people from all kinds of background
and
interesting stories, free flow conversation.
Really like it. So I'm very excited to
be part of it. So, really, again, thank
you very much for having me on this.
Oh, I appreciate that kindness. Thank you. It
was very nice. Are you hailing from California
right now?
Yes. I'm in Taurus. That's where my office
is. Let's jump in. I like to start
these always asking you about
where your childhood
experiences
were, what shaped you as a kid?
Yes. I was born in Italy
in, Reggio Emilia,
famous for being the home of Parmigiano Reggiano
Cheese. Yeah. Northern Italy, actually in an area
called also Motor Valley. There's a lot of
companies involved in the automotive industry. The most
famous are Ferrari,
Lamborghini,
Ducati.
So very, very automotive oriented area. I know
that's where my company actually
was launched,
by my grandfather.
And, yeah. So I was born there.
I,
I've been here in Los Angeles,
since 2010,
so
almost,
15 years.
They apply very, very quick.
I was supposed
to be here just to launch
what is now my company
and then go back to Italy, but
15 years later, 2 kids later,
I'm here. I I feel like,
you know, an adopted California for sure. Yeah.
Very likely here.
The I mean, we've got the wineries. A
lot of the the feel of it, I
imagine, is it's sort of comforting. Lot of
similarities for sure. Lot of similarities. Yeah. Yeah.
We have, you know, mountains and and and,
you know, the ocean, you know, very, very
close by. And, yes, the the wineries,
you know, good food,
good ingredients.
So,
We even have Olive Groves in Ojai.
That yeah. I is that is that where
you live in in Ojai? I live in
Santa Monica, but I like to go to
Ojai. It's great. Yeah. I love it too.
I love it too. Ojai. Yeah. And, so
definitely. Yeah. But weather is definitely better here,
and for me, it's an important factor.
Yeah. I grew up in Northern Italy where,
you know,
winters were cold and foggy, and, you know,
some people like it and, you know,
it's it's very it's very beautiful. I'm not
gonna deny that. And and I love we
were just there,
for vacation.
We had a great time.
And
so yeah. I mean, it's still beautiful and
then but, you know, at one point, you
you decide
you are where where where you you where
you have to be. And,
my
my adult life, it's it's been mainly here.
And, again, my kids grew up here.
Do they speak Italian? They speak Italian. Yeah.
Yeah. Since, since they were born, I always,
you know, for me, it was very natural
to speak in in Italian.
So so, yeah, they're fluent. Did they do
this a lot with the thing with the
hands? They're they're dramatic, especially my daughter for
sure.
Yeah.
I love that. Hey. You grew up in
a and it sounds like, just from the
little bit I've read about you, you grew
up in a tight family. That's right. Your
grand grandfather was the patriarch
and everyone sort of looked to him, or
was it a grandma and grandpa equally
the the leaders of the family?
My definitely, my grandfather, although I never met
him,
is the reason why I'm here today because
I moved here for for work
and he had,
started this company,
Landirenso,
because he was a self taught engineer
growing up in Italy. During World War II,
there was shortage of gasoline,
in Italy
and the area where where I'm from,
the Emilia Romagna region, was rich of natural
gas. So
at that time, people were thinking about alternative.
Okay? There's not gasoline.
And so
people were thinking about alternative, and my grandfather,
self taught engineer, had come across this technology,
natural gas, for for vehicles
and started to study it and started designing
components, parts,
to essentially transform and make
gasoline
vehicles run on on natural gas. Ahead of
its time, really. Yeah. It was ahead of
its time, especially
because
well, at that time, really,
the main driver for people to utilize this
technology was, for first of all, was more
available because after the World War 2, there
was shortage of gasoline. So it was more
available.
It was cheaper compared to gasoline.
So but he was always no. But this
is good for the environment. This is better
for the environment.
And and people were like, but what? Who
who cares? What are you talking about? And
I remember my my grandmother telling me these
stories where,
they used to make their my grandfather set
a company with in a in a workshop
with my with his wife, my grandmother. And,
so he was the the with my with
his wife, my grandmother. And, so he was
the the genius and technical guy.
My my grandmother, she was, you know, the
the accountant and an admin office person, and
they were putting together the first brochures for
for the company.
And so they had these, pictures with components
and the drivers.
It's good for your engine. It's good for
your wallet. It's good.
And then my grandfather always wanted to add
no pollution.
And my grandmother was always fighting with him
because, like, nobody cares. We don't need to
do it. And he was, please, please, come
on. Like, I think it's important things will
change. He said, whatever.
And and here we are
70 years, later where, you know, environment is
definitely a big part of it. He was
really ahead of the of his times, and
he set up one of the he built
one of the first,
labs in the world
focused on analyzing pollutant emissions.
And back then, when he was doing that,
people were really think were really calling him
crazy. I mean, what are you you're wasting
your money.
But that's actually how,
got the attention of some,
some important companies.
Mitsubishi was was really the first one, the
first company that wanted to cooperate with him.
And, yeah, fortunately, he passed away, died before,
a man named he died in, in the
midst in the mid seventies.
And,
my my grandmother, all of a sudden,
found herself a widow with 2 kids to
raise and and a company,
to run.
As you can imagine, you know, mid mid
seventies and frankly, even today,
a woman, a widow,
2 kids in the highly dominated,
male highly male dominated
industry, like the auto industry, it wasn't really
something easy. And everybody around there were standing
they were telling her, listen. You gotta sell
the company. What are you doing? You can't
continue yourself. You're a woman. You know? What
are you doing with a company?
You have to raise your kids.
But she was very stubborn, and and she
didn't sell the company, and she she continued
actually to grow the business, and then the
rest the rest is history because the company
continued. You need to grow the
attention
for,
the ecomobility,
grew. So the company the company continued to
grow. And then,
yeah, she actually became
one of the, very few,
women united by the president of Italy. So
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. She was a cool cool
woman. She passed away last year, but she
had a great life. And what's her what's
her name? Giovannina.
Oh, beautiful name.
I it's always hard, I think, when somebody
leaves our family, you know, when they pass
on, but
especially somebody that has that big of a
presence.
Yeah. She actually was a cool, cool woman,
interesting businesswoman. She traveled the world speaking very
little English,
and and mainly
she, you know, she was proud to say,
you know, I'm I mainly spoke my dialect,
you know, dialect over
Reggio Emilia.
But, yeah, I know she was, you know,
business savvy. She was also very cool. She
she was a tarot reader,
before before,
an important business deal. She was always reading
tarots.
She sounds awesome.
Yeah.
When you grow up with the family business,
how many siblings do you have? I have
one brother. Younger brother. Yeah. He lives in
Italy. Yeah. 6 year difference. When you have
that
family business,
I don't think it matters what the business
is or even how successful it is. It's
there is this idea for the children and
the grandchildren that they must be in that
pipeline.
Was it a no brainer for you that's
something you were already impassioned
about, or
did it take some convincing?
I I have to say, I I never
felt
that pressure, and and I agree with you,
but I never felt, at least with my
experience,
I I grew up in it, obviously,
and following
occasionally my dad in in business trips, but
for me, it was mainly it was nice
to to travel a little bit. I never
really saw the the the the business side
of it.
Also, when I was in college, I wasn't
thinking, okay, I'm gonna do that. And I
I knew that at one point I would
have to do something, but then I I
did I studied in in Italy and in
Spain, in Barcelona,
and, that really opened, you know, my my
mind to,
you know, the world and then meeting all
people from all kinds of backgrounds. And then
at one point, I had to
call I graduated from college and I had
to do something. Business or engineering?
Business. Yeah okay.
I'm not very technical. I pretend,
between you and I and your and your
and your listeners
that I've learned to you sometimes. Obviously, I,
you know, I learned from very skilled engineer,
but, no, I'm I'm not a technical person,
business person. At one point after college, I
had to do something. So I started working
for the company. I really liked the, you
know, the traveling aspect of it, connecting with
with a lot of, culture.
And then,
thankfully, I would say,
when I started working, really,
the
environmental
attention for for the mobility, the eco mobility
was really growing. So
it was great,
to to start working in in an environment
where, again, it was going more and more
towards
sustainable mobility. Your company doesn't just concentrate on,
no pun intended, natural gas, but also
hydrogen?
A little bit. Well, everything. So we're really
technology neutral. Actually, today, we we here, we
will launch the new
new website,
of landytechnologies,
dot com. And, it it's it's really
we're a technology neutral company. So we started
from that technology because that's what that was
what was available
at that time. But then the know how
with electronic mechatronic components really expanded
into other technologies, which
we the first evolution was with hydrogen and
hydrogen,
nitrogen fuel cell. We started working with General
Motors in the mid 2000s,
who was a customer already of ours, and
they chose us to develop some mechanical and
electronic components for hydrogen fuel cell vehicles.
So from then, hydrogen fuel cell fuel cell
is an electric vehicle. So we really started
to
obtain know how also for for EVs, so
developing
electronic components for EVs. So today, we're really
we're really a technology company that
we we're experts
in in the, in in the different power
trains. For example, in US, our main business
is commercial vehicles. So we really understand commercial
vehicles,
and we can really guide customers.
Okay. This
is the best solution for you. I I
think in in the future well, already now,
but
there will be
a variety
of technologies
where, you know, different powertrains, electrics, hydrogen, renewable
natural gas, renewable fuels, synthetic fuels,
all these different powertrains will coexist
and with with the, you know, common denominator,
which is, the, eco mobility, eco the eco
friendliness.
Every vehicle is different, every fleet is different,
so they need to do different type of
works, activities.
And,
we need to be really open minded
and because, yeah,
there's a technology for everything,
not all the eggs in one basket.
And, yeah, we, you know, we we help
companies understanding
what their needs are and what's this what
what the sweet spot is.
I imagine down the road, even though now
it's commercial is the focus. And when you
say that, I'm assuming you mean, like, trucking
and things like that. Exactly. Mhmm. Yes. So
down the road, when it does come to
personal vehicles that everyday people might drive. I
imagine it's gotta be difficult
to bring people into
even though it started way in the past,
bring them into a future where they're comfortable
with it because,
you know, they hear things like hydrogen or
even natural gas, like, oh, that makes houses
explode or, you know, whatever that is.
How do you help community
get on board?
Little by little, I think I mean, and
I was listening to the podcast that you
did recently with Ed Begley junior. Yes. And
you said, you know, like, tiny steps.
And and, I mean, I think, you know,
really, it's, you know,
there's pros and cons right now of all
the technologies. Okay?
So I think at one point,
you have to as a as a company,
as a fleet, as a person, you have
to start somewhere. Okay?
So you have
you have you have options now.
Some are better than others depending of what
you do with your vehicle, if it whether
if it's personal or commercial.
But
I I think, again, we need to push
the,
message of,
the ecomobility
and and being open minded. So I think,
you know, again, little by little,
you know, we all have to do our
part
and,
yeah, but and and learning and understanding really,
okay, where's the sweet spot? And what what
makes it more efficient from from the environmental
standpoint?
Is that why California was the choice of
where to have the company? Because California being
on the forefront.
I I think they have a goal, right,
that car at least for cars produced at
at a certain year, they're going to be
electric all the way? California
historically has always been very,
very
attentive to, you know, the the the the
environment, very
close to this,
to the
to the evolution of eco mobility.
So, California CAR, California Resource Board, which is
the main agency in the automotive industry that
really
regulates
the emission.
Again, like, you know, my my grandfather was
thinking about it 70 years ago, and and
that's why
we have always, we've always had a great
relationship with these agencies. But, yeah, CARB
is,
based here in California.
We thought that this was really the place
the place to be.
At that time, also, we've been here since
2010.
Really, the main,
eco friendly solution was,
natural gas, which is now in California is
almost entirely
renewable natural gas. So coming from renewable resources.
So the infrastructure was very well developed here
in California,
even for hydrogen, for example, now there's like
the infrastructure in California is probably 95%
of all the of all compared to all
the country.
So California
for an ecomobility
company definitely was,
the place of it, at least to have,
to have the main the main hub.
Yeah. Small office also in Michigan where we
do mainly testing.
But, yeah, I think this is really the
the hub for advanced technologies.
Knowing that
petroleum is a a finite resource, maybe not
in my generation or your generation, but
eventually,
there's a lot of people that are fighting
hard to hold on to that, the lobbying
and all of that to make the governmental
agencies sort of look away from
eco friendly
scenarios.
How do you
butt heads with people like that? We've when
you know there's a lot of money being
poured in the opposite of what you're doing.
That's right. That's right. I think, again, you
know, it's based on for us, we're we're
lucky to have this long history in the
in the, ecomobility
space, 70 years.
So I think we have,
again, based on our experience,
we have a position, a platform where we
can,
educate people.
We would like to educate people with based
on our experience.
Again, it goes back to
we do our best,
from
techno technological
neutrality
standpoint
because I think that's the best approach.
Would you explain what that means to people?
Because I don't know that that's necessarily
intuitive.
Okay. So when I say technologically,
neutral means, like, okay. What is
environmentally friendly
for this,
for this vehicle?
Because for a a truck that has a
crane or has a lot of equipment,
a a certain technology could be eco friendly
technology could be better than another.
While there's companies that they say, oh, everything
needs to be hydrogen, everything needs to be
electric, everything needs to be natural gas, everything
needs to be synthetic fuels.
So there's all kinds of specialized
companies that obviously they're doing their best to
bring everybody
on their side. Fortunately,
because of our experience, we're able to,
you know, take take a step back and
analyze,
objectively,
the whole,
environment, the whole scenario.
And so I think
when companies, when fleets, also with people, they
they say, okay. You know what? I wanna
have, an eco friendly vehicle.
They have to ask some questions. Okay. What
do I do with this vehicle? Do I
go from a to b and b to
a every day?
Work, home, work, home, or do I travel
a lot?
Do I have a truck?
Or if I'm a company, what kind of
trucks do I have? So you have to
ask your questions because
every technology is different, every eco friendly technology
is different, and there's the sweet spot for
every kind of application.
So, again, with the with the open mind,
I think technology,
neutral
can be the equivalent of as an open
mind. Go there with an open mind, with
a common denominator. Okay. I wanna be sustainable.
I think for the average person,
they
they just assume, oh, it's gonna be this
one way or that highway. Again, no pun
intended.
All across the board. And
this way, it's like, no. There's lots of
options. Exactly. Options are good. It makes people
feel safer and more comfortable and, like, they
have more autonomy.
How does a natural gas engine work exactly?
Well, natural gas is a fossil fuel. Now
California, for example, has 99%
of renewable natural gas, which is not a
fossil fuel.
And so in this instance, for example, like,
the way why it's it's,
the the the great things about it is
that you are net zero almost negative. So,
essentially, you capture,
the all the emissions coming from waste, agricultural
waste, you know, food waste and so on,
all that waste that would normally emit,
pollutant emissions in the atmosphere.
In that case, you capture them, so you
remove them from the atmosphere. So you're already,
like,
doing something great there,
and then you put it in a in
a vehicle
and and you're cutting emissions,
you're cutting emissions there.
So essentially that's how it was. There are
some vehicles that they are born already with
it,
with companies that they make already engines
and and or there's vehicles that you can
transform.
And,
yeah, we you know, it's possible to do
both.
Yeah.
What do you think your grandfather would say
about the state of the industry today?
I think he would be very excited. I
think he he said knowing
the stories that I've heard,
he he said would spin and he would
jump on any
any,
you know, any discussion of any, you know,
he would be still, I imagine,
if you could home and then thinking about,
okay. Oh, this is, that let me look
at this, hydrogen truck. Let me look at
this EV truck or this EV car or
this, you know, renewable natural gas or whatever.
The biobank. So,
yeah, I'm sure it would be very excited
about
this new team in history.
Is there a plan to to get the
average person
excited
now before you even roll out those programs,
or are you just waiting until you show
that it works with the fleets?
Well, I think well, nobody we're already working
with, with cars. I think we're we're we're
getting there, again, you know, tiny steps.
Yeah. But but yeah. But but that's that's
right. Because I remember when I when when
I was listening to the podcast, I said,
yeah. That's, you know, that's that's true. Little
by little. But that's the direction. I don't
see us
going backwards.
Again, we're we're we're getting there. We're getting
there. How fast, you know, that I don't
know. I don't have a crystal ball. I
get the tarot cards.
Yeah. Exactly. You know? There's this
you can't predict nature and and and
but
that's definitely the direction, and that's where we're
going.
How fast that we will see.
I'm so cur I'm a friend of mine
actually has a hydrogen cell car, and it's
the first one that I'd seen up goes
and personal. It's very
slick. I cannot remember the kind of car
it was,
but he was so excited because he said
it was going to save him a lot
of money in the long run. Let's talk
let's talk cash. Cash is king. It's tricky.
It's tricky.
Again, even there, it all depends
on on on your mission,
on your needs
because there's pros and cons for for everything.
Like, you just mentioned hydrogen,
hydrogen fuel cell.
And first of all, I mean, I don't
wanna get feel free to stop me anytime
because I don't wanna get technical, especially Technical.
I want technical. Bring on the technical. I'm
not a technical person, but, you know, there's
hydrogen fuel cell, which is, a zero emission,
vehicle
that,
functions
as
an electric vehicle, but instead of having batteries
as this fuel cell, which is kind of
like a battery, let's say, but
it's
fueled by hydrogen
and
makes the vehicle run as a zero emission
vehicle. But then there's also hydrogen internal combustion
engine, and that's more similar
to what we use, like
a gasoline vehicle or another
type of fuel. So there's there's 2,
varieties also there, and there's pros and cons
with with both.
Hydrogen is still expensive
as as,
in, you know, at the station, at the
filling station.
So,
you know,
someone who decides to go there, Rodney, needs
to understand that, okay, hydrogen is is, you
know, is a bit expensive,
right now.
And then, it there's a big difference between
passenger vehicles and and trucks. Trucks to transform
a truck
is very, very expensive.
New OEM made, OEM essential car makers,
original equipment manufacturers. So there are some companies
out there
I don't know if we can name names,
but I had no money from anyone, so
we can say whatever we want. No. And
that's what I like of your buckets because
it's kinda like free flow, but, you know,
I never Yeah. I never I never know.
But anyways, yeah, there's, like, truck companies there
with the go, hydrogen fuel cell, very, very
expensive.
So,
and the infrastructure
definitely needs to be developed. Now the,
current administration
issued, a very important,
how can I call it,
big program
to simulate
the hydrogen infrastructure,
$7,000,000,000
to simulate the
the hydrogen the hydrogen industry? So there's definitely
a push there from the government,
but, yeah, the infrastructure needs to needs to
develop. There's it's somehow developing in California. There's
almost zero outside California, but it's growing. And
as a company, actually, we we are involved
also in the infrastructure piece with with technologies
for,
station, filling station, hydrogen filling station.
So, yeah, cost is tricky. It cost is
tricky. There's, you know, even with the,
there's always a premium for sure if you
wanna go,
eco friendly, whether you you have a car,
you wanna buy a car, or in the
commercial eco space, you wanna transform your vehicles,
or you wanna buy brand new vehicles,
there's always a premium. How much further will
a cell go versus an EV versus gasoline?
The range, for example, with hydrogen,
it's better because you have
more range. And you know, in terms of
filling,
refilling your vehicle, it's it's quicker because it's
very similar to gasoline.
But then, you know, from again,
differ big difference, commercial vehicle to passenger vehicles.
But passenger's vehicle,
an EV,
the, the operating costs are much lower.
The infrastructure,
it's easier because you can you can charge
a vehicle in your home. So it's definitely
it's definitely
much
easier in terms of, k. How do I
go about going places with with my vehicle?
The government subsidies helps with that. I mean,
10 I don't even I don't even remember
when EVs hit the market when they started,
but there was nowhere to take them. You
couldn't go outside of, I mean, I imagine
it was pretty much California and that was
it. And then
now there's, of course,
places all across the country where you can
juice up your battery
and home, which you couldn't do that before.
Exactly. So that is growing. And I think,
I mean, all the infrastructures of all the
technologies are growing, so that's definitely a good
sign.
And in terms of cost, there's differences, and
I think it all depends on your friend
as a hydrogen fuel cell,
vehicle.
I imagine he, you know, he he did
his homework, and I imagine he lives close
to hydrogen fueling station.
And if you don't have
if you don't
travel
that much, well, then,
then that's great. And I know that there
were a lot of incentives for for, hydrogen
fuel cell cars,
and that helped. I mean, the I thought
I think that was probably a factor for
your friend. Again, we all have to find
our sweet spot,
and we gotta start,
somewhere. So This might be a dumb question.
Forgive me, and forgive me, mister Hilly, my
chemistry teacher from 10th grade. If water is
h two o, which is 2 hydrogen Oh,
now you're getting too technical already for me.
Yeah? With with the with the chemical. Oh,
okay. Go ahead. Go ahead. I wondered if
you could break down water in order to
create this
hydrogen, like, ultimately
Yeah. Yeah. You can you you can use
high you can use water,
to produce hydrogen and that's and that's, with
the electrolysis, that's called the green hydrogen because
also
one aspect
of, of of hydro one of the debates
is that, yeah, I mean, hydrogen fuel cell
is it's it's clean
if the hydrogen is produced
a certain way with,
renewable
sources,
like water for example, like like,
solar.
I like I didn't know, like again, going
back to, Ed Begley, they did they had,
like, the solar oven, and I I didn't
even know that they they they were doing,
you know, things like that. But anyway, so,
yeah, solar can be used,
to produce hydrogen.
Right now, it's it's very
limited, the green hydrogen production,
but they're they're pushing it to, you know,
to to go that direction. Then, you know,
we have the blue hydrogen, which is produced
with some fossil fuels.
So you have pros and cons there. Even
with renewable natural gas, we have pros and
cons like with with the EVs.
There are pros like in life, there's pros
and cons in everything,
and you you need to you need to
find the most,
effective solution for what you need
and
but start somewhere.
Are motorcycles gonna run on this stuff too?
What is,
we actually globally work with the with the
some in in some countries, in India, especially
where they have all the 3 wheelers and
then, they they use a lot of motorcycles.
There's propane 3 wheelers, there's natural gas,
3 wheelers, there's electric 3 wheelers, there's hydrogen.
So,
yeah, definitely. I mean, I think,
even for motorcycle,
you will continue,
you will continue to see a growth
in, in alternatives and more eco friendly,
more eco friendly
solution.
And
and we all do our part. I mean,
you know, we could also we could also
argue that having a vintage car or a
vintage,
you know, motorcycle, it's sustainable because it's there.
You don't buy new,
you don't buy it's kinda like it's kinda
like fashion. You know? You can, you know,
if you vintage is is is very
sustain. My wife has
a sustainable fashion
business, so I I Oh,
what is it? What's it called? We can
plug her here.
It's Erad PR. She's she's a fashion PR
company only for sustainable,
fashions,
sustainable. I love it. Okay. So, yeah, so
also with cars, you know, like, vintage cars
are in a way sustainable.
So
there's a lot of angles and the common
the common denominator,
should be,
sustainability.
Yeah. That's the word of the the word
of the millennia, I guess. Exactly. From of
us from from the environment standpoint, from the
economy standpoint, because,
you know,
spending also, like, companies that they they overspend
and they they they
go bankrupt
to find certain things that to develop certain
things that they think are, you know, eco
friendly and cool, but then they're not sustainable
from the financial standpoint, would then the whole
circle,
is not is not really,
it's it's not really reasonable.
So I think, you know, we gotta look
at all the angles, but not nothing is
perfect.
So where do you drive? I have I
have a hydrogen fuel cell car, so probably
the same car that your friend has. And
then I also have a gasoline car for
the family.
And,
so,
yeah.
That's great. Not an Italian car, though. Not
an Italian car.
Actually, no. My my wife has Italian car.
Speed of sorrow, and she'll kill me. Yeah.
She has a a vintage Fiat Spyder.
So
yeah.
Beautiful.
Yeah. Yeah. I drove it the other night
because it was so hot, and I'll drive
it in the evening.
I'm glad she lets you drive it.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes.
Tell people how they can find you and
the company and if they have questions, the
best way of an outreach. Yeah. We just
launched today our new website, landytechnologies.com.
Yeah. That's the website. If they have any
question, there's info at landytechnologies.com,
and then and,
you know, you're welcome to you know, you're
welcome here. Welcome. Any questions, if you have
any questions, if you have any listener, like,
you know, put them in touch with me,
and, I'd be happy to,
to answer
all kinds of questions.
We have an academy also that was founded
a long time ago in in Italy for
the eco mobility studies where we would have
classes
about really, eco mobility
in in general technology would have
trainings for for our product, but also, like,
classes for, you know, to learn about all
the different technologies. And,
since we established Lendi here in United States,
I've tried to make as many connections as
possible with
with universities.
We worked a little bit with UCLA in,
Institute of Environment.
The goal would be to really create curriculum,
for
the eco eco mobility studies,
whether if it's engineering or
or
something more,
you know, business or
but with with
with the ecomobility
as the main,
subject because I don't think there's anything
out there. So
Yeah. There are a lot of summer programs
in the US for kids,
elementary kids and junior high school kids to
go and learn all about science. My the
one I went to in Washington State was
called x, x, Operation Exploration.
And so we spent the summer doing all
sorts of projects and learning how things worked
and taking them apart and putting them together,
and
kids love learning about that stuff. And that's
like planting that seed early. You know? Exactly.
Exactly. So yeah. You know, little by little,
I think, you know, definitely the new generation
will will be more conscious about all of
this. Mhmm. And,
but yeah. No. Seriously. I mean, I'm always
available for questions and yeah.
Thank you so much for being on the
show. I really appreciate it. Thank you very
much. Yeah. And I know that this technology
can you can get down in the weeds
with it, but it's good to
just sort of put it into people's mind
to get it something to think about that,
you know, as they're purchasing their vehicles or
even thinking about what maybe they'll get for
their own children,
that that is something that will be in
the back of their mind planting the seed.
Exactly.
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