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Hey, humans. How's it going? Susan Ruth here.

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Thanks for listening to another episode of Hey

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Human podcast.

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This is episode

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422,

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and my guest is Bob Bledsoe.

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Bob breeds and raises ball pythons and is

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the founder of Green Room Pythons, educating us

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on all things python

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while helping to dispel fears and myths around

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these

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gentle and interesting tube socks.

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He's a musician, comic, and actor, and you've

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likely seen him in film or on one

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of your favorite shows, like Parks and Rec,

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Lie to Me, Hannah Montana,

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Jay Leno. He's been on a ton of

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stuff. He's a dear friend. I've known him

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forever,

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and I'm excited for him to be on

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the show. As some of you may know,

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I am a huge fan of snakes. I've

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always loved them,

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and I very much enjoy going over to

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Bob's place

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and getting to pet and love on these

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really intriguing, interesting,

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beautiful creatures. So, hopefully, even if you're a

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little afraid or very afraid of snakes,

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this episode will, I don't know, make you

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a little bit more open minded toward them.

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be love, and here we go.

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Bob, let's go. Welcome to Hey Human.

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Hi, Susan. I'm so happy to be here.

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Hello, love. It's so good to see you.

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It's it's always good to see you. Anytime

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I can hang out with you is a

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great day. Aw. Thanks, honey.

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We have known each other a long

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time.

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Yeah. I can't even count how many fingers

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that is, but it's a lot of them.

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It's gotta be 60 to 70 years, something

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like that. Yeah. We might have to involve

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toes, for sure.

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And you

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have had many lifetimes within a lifetime, which

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I love that because I'm the same way.

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We're gonna

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start with the beginning of you. Tell me

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about your upbringing. Where'd you grow up? What

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shaped you as a person?

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I grew up in Spokane, Washington

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with a loving mother and father,

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supportive,

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and a sister who was and still is

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my best friend, favorite person on earth. So

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that that family,

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that lovely family upbringing,

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shaped me

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as a person, you know, began to shape

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me as a person.

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Did you have aspirations

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as a young kid to go into the

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arts?

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Yeah. I wanted to be a comedian or

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I I wanted to be an entertainer of

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some sort, you know, when I was a

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kid. I mean, I also had dreams of,

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like, being a zoologist.

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I remember that as one of my earliest

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things. I found out what what the word

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zoologist meant when I was maybe in 1st

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grade or something. I was like, yeah. I

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wanna do that. But then it was all

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like I would see Saturday Night Live and

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I'd be like, oh, no. I kinda wanna

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do that. And how old are you when

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you started doing stand up?

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I was in my early twenties.

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Did that come secondary to acting or was

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that first? No. That was first. That was

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first. I start I started doing open mics

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in Seattle.

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They they were going pretty well and I

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I actually, the same week, now I'm I'm

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remembering, the same week that I did my

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first open mic, I signed up for an

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acting class. I kinda started them both at

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the same time.

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What was it like as a stand up

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comedian? That's a pretty brutal existence from what

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I understand.

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What was that like for you and how

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did that shape your personality?

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It it is kind of a brutal existence

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and in in a couple of ways, but

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it's also great in some others. Looking back

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on it, starting stand up in Seattle at

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that time in the early nineties, it was

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it it was just a great place to

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start

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because when I compare it to people that

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are trying to start stand up now

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in in Los Angeles, they if they can

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find a place to get up on stage,

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they're not going to find a real audience.

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Their audience is just going to be other

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comics waiting to hit the stage, you know.

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And it's it's really tough to do. And

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I think that's kind of the case in

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Seattle right now, maybe. But back then, you

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could you could do an open mic and

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and we had good

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audiences, you know. People would come and and

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pay and sit down and buy drinks and

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watch open mics.

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So it was really great in that respect.

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There were, you know, I was young and

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as much as I

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actively tried not to be competitive with other

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comics or whatever, I think I was. I

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think I I didn't like comedians that I

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thought were maybe funnier than I was or

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maybe they did a thing that I felt

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like I couldn't do and so I just

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didn't like that person, you know. So there

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were some traits in my personality that came

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out that I didn't like when I or

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that I don't like when I look back

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on that. How did you make an adjustment

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for that or have you not? No. No.

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No. I have for sure. I have for

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sure. It's just giving. I know you. I

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think it just comes with growing up, you

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know, and and maturing. And when you're in

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your early twenties, you're not an adult yet.

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You know, I had to go through that

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and and,

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you know, get some a little bit of

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perspective and and understand that

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we're not in a there's no competition here,

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you know, with with artists. With stand up

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comics, there's no competition. There's nobody that's me,

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and I'm not gonna be them.

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Did you know you were funny from a

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young age too? Or was it just that

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you saw these other actor comedians and you

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thought, oh, I want to do that without

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really understanding what it meant to do that?

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I was I was funny as a kid.

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I could make my sister and my mom

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cry laughing,

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and I was pretty good at being a

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class clown. I I think I thought that

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that that was that that was my thing,

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you know, that I could probably do that.

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Did you audition for SNL?

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I I did in that I I didn't

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do a live audition, but I sent in

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a tape of characters. My my manager pitched

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me to them and they wanted to see

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a tape. So,

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I put a tape together.

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And, I did audition for Mad TV and

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I went through the entire process of the

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audition. And at the very last one, the

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screen test, I tested I did a great

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it felt like I had a great audition

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and had a great rapport. My manager called

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me about an hour after that audition

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and he was like, yeah, they decided not

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to not to cast a fat funny guy.

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So they had, you know, they have these

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categories

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and and I was in the category of

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the fat funny guy and

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you know, I can't remember who they had

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at that time. But that but that was

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the thing. They were like, yeah. I mean,

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they liked you, but they decided not to

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go with your type, basically,

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for this and that and that was the

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final season of Mad TV. We didn't know

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at the time, obviously, but it got cancelled

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mid season. So it was crushing to go

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through that

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that process and think that I was probably

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gonna be cast

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and then not get it. But I think

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it would have been worse to get it

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and think, oh my gosh. I'm on Mad

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TV now. I've made it. And then get

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6 episodes in and be canceled.

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Were you at this time also starting your

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family?

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Not at that time. That was after. I

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started my family at right I started my

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family before

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I did my first open mic.

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I had I had kids at at that

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time. So I had I had young kids.

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I was working as a mortgage

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banker,

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basically, which,

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which is what I did right,

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you know, right away. I I started working

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in the mortgage industry because my dad had

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done it. And, I kinda hated it, but

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I can make money at it. That's what

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I was doing. And then I started doing

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open mics. We were in Seattle, and I

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was like, I think I wanna try this.

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So that was that. That's great, though, that

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you had the support to try it because

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that's a huge leap of faith to go

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from such a

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well, an industry that's not going away certainly

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to an industry where it's feast or famine.

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Yeah. Well, I also I mean, I didn't

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quit my day job for a while. You

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know? I guess I was in the mortgage

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industry for for a number of years while

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I was developing my act and I still

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would I, you know, I started touring. I

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started going on the road for for road

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gigs when I was still working as a

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as a mortgage guy, you know.

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I just, this morning, I texted you about

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this earlier, but just this morning was scrolling

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TikTok and came

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upon a little blip from Parks and Rec.

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And there you were on Parks and Rec.

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Yeah. And I okay. Because I watch

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I watch different shows and just randomly, and

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all of a sudden, there's Bob.

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So funny. It's so funny that that clip

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is on TikTok. That that was one of

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my favorite things. You know, I was that

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I probably was on set for a total

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of 2 hours that it was so fast,

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and I was really disappointed because I'm a

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fan of that show and and was at

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the time that,

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that I shot the thing. The what I

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what I really liked about that, it's one

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little scene with Rashida Jones

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and the, you know, the idea is that

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it's it's that I'm I'm trying to complain

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about something about the city, and she is

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supposed to be a surrogate for the city

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on on that particular day

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to answer my complaint. And and so after

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I say whatever, she goes, you know, I'm

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I'm just a nurse, actually. I don't really

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work for the city. And then I'm supposed

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to show her my arm, pull up my

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sleeve and show her my arm and say,

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oh, can you take a look at this?

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And so we did a couple takes of

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that and then I asked the director. I

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said, do you mind if I just

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instead of pulling up my sleeve, do you

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mind if I just whip off my shirt?

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Because that might be really funny. And he

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goes, no. Let's try it. So we did

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one take of that of me taking the

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shirt all the way off, which is so

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stupid and ridiculous.

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And that's what they used, which made me

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really happy. At that time, I was doing

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a lot of Jay Leno appearances. I was

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I was one of the regular sketch guys

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on Leno, and it seemed like every time

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they brought me in is when they needed

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a fat guy to take off his shirt.

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So, like, that was kind of my go

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to thing at the time was was take

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off your shirt. I've seen you let's see.

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I've seen you as in giving a hot

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dog, hot dog vendor person.

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I don't remember which show that was. That

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was on.

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That was on that, lie to me.

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Lie to me. That's right. And it's always

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so random when I see you. My the

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same goes with my friend Grant. He just

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shows up and thinks, and I'm like, what

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the hell? Yeah. Yeah. Funny. Isn't that fun

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though, like, to see you're just watching a

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show and you see your friend pop up?

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I I love that.

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It's the best. Mhmm. It really is. It's

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the best.

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You have been in a few movies

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and and and had that experience. But the

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thing that really intrigues me about you

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is a while back,

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you started to get into snakes. And maybe

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you've been in snakes your whole life. Yeah.

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But you really,

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you went for it. So let's talk about

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that. Yeah. I went deep. What started that

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adventure? I've always had reptiles

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as a kid and have been fascinated

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in them, in in keeping them, but also

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just learning anything I can about them because

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they're so different from us. Like, what is

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going on with those things? Right? So let

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so let me say this. I've been,

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there's one part of the story, which is

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that I went from touring

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comedy clubs to touring renaissance festivals.

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Right? So I have this show that I

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do for renaissance fairs and that's pretty much

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what I do. That's my touring now, as

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I do these festival gigs. When COVID hit,

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the all those gigs were canceled, obviously.

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And that gave me time to start my

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YouTube channel, which I've been wanting to do

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for a long time. And separately,

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I've also always wanted to breed reptiles.

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And I had one I had a snake.

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I had a ball python.

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And I thought, okay. I paid too much

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for this ball python anyway. Maybe I just

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get another one and breed him and and

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then I can produce babies and sell a

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couple babies and that'll recoup my cost. Plus

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it'll get me it'll get me, doing something

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that I've always wanted to do.

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And I have time at home now to

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learn how to do that. And then I

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went, oh, I can make my YouTube channel

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about that as well because I know a

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lot about snakes. I can teach people about

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snakes, and I can make it funny. So

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we'll start this channel and we'll just see

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how it goes. I'll put up a video

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every week.

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And,

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the channel has done well. It's done really

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well. And you have 30 snakes now? I

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have around 30 right now, but that goes

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up and down based on,

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snakes that hatch and and the cell and

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whatever. I usually keep 1 or 2 snakes

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out of each clutch that I have,

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clutch of eggs, and then I and then

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I sell the others.

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For many people listening, they are

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crawling out of their skin with the idea.

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I personally

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love snakes, and I always You love snakes.

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Yeah. Love them. And I have so much

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fun when I come over to your place

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and get to cuddle snakes. Yeah. And they

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really have a lot of personality.

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They're so beautiful.

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And I think people think, oh, they're slimy

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and gross, but they they're not at all

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slimy. They have a really cool texture or

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feel.

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They're cool to the touch. It's sublime, really.

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Yeah. And

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their their

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patterning is so gorgeous.

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Talk a little bit about how you

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manipulate pattern as a breeder. Yeah. So so

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these are all, I I breed pythons, and,

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these are ball pythons. I'm raising up some

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other species to breed as well, but but

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right now it's ball pythons.

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And this the species of ball python, we

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have 100 of morphs

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that we have identified. These are genes that,

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change the color and pattern of these snakes.

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So, you can have everything from crazy pattern

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orange and black with some

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I mean, all kinds of colors, not green.

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We we haven't found green yet, but tons

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of colors and patterns all the way to

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just a plain white snake, like all all

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white. When you learn a little bit about

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the genetics, you can you can understand how

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mixing

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1 male with 1 female will get the

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potential for certain gene combinations

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that do some really cool things. Yeah. Because

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some of your snakes have smiley faces on

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them, so

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have triangles

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and squares. Well, I don't think I've seen

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a square, but just really interesting. And I

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think it's so funny that in

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everyone's mind, if you say think of a

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snake, for the most part, people think green,

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and that's it. Yeah. A snake is green.

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And maybe that comes from our childhood when

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we're chasing garter snakes and Well, it's also

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when you see a picture I think when

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you see a picture of a emerald tree

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boa or a green tree python,

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that bright bright green is so stunning that

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it sticks in our mind

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Yeah. As the color of snakes, you know.

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What's a fallacy that you like to dispel

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for people who are

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that you don't know a lot about snakes?

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Well, the one that I hear almost once

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a week

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and and this this comes to me because

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people are either telling me this as a

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really interesting story or they're warning me that

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I should be careful and not have pythons.

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They always make it personal. The story is

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this.

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My cousin has a friend who had a

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python and the python stopped eating and she

450
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would sleep with it every night. And then

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she took the snake to the vet to

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see why it wasn't eating and the vet

453
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told her that it's sizing her up. It

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stopped eating to empty its belly and it's

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sizing her up to eat her. What, you

456
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know, and so they go, so be careful

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with those pythons that you have. And that

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is something that no snake would ever do.

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Snakes don't plan out their meals

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for for one thing. They're opportunistic feeders. They

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don't they don't they they would never, you

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know,

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snuggle up next to a deer to decide

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if that's gonna work or not. That's why

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you never ever see a snake at Weight

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Watchers ever. Right. That's right. That's the thing.

467
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And then also there's only one species of

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snake that is ever in recorded history

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eaten a person.

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And it's not an anaconda as as people

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might guess. It's a reticulated python. Reticulated means

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that their jaws open up? No. Or what

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No. Pretty much all snakes have jaws that

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are unhinged already and, and open up. Reticulated

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refers to it's a I don't know. I

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don't understand why this is a thing, but,

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reticulated is a word that means netting,

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and I've never heard it in any other

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context other than talking about this snake. And

480
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the pattern on them looks like a net.

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They have a really cool pattern. And you've

482
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you have played with 2 reticulated pythons. They're

483
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dwarf though. Though so they'll never get as

484
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big as the ones who actually can eat

485
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a small human in in Southeast Asia. It's

486
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hard to pick a favorite of your snakes,

487
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but I was partial to that cutie patootie

488
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baby

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tiny one that curled around my wrist.

490
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Oh oh, was that, was that little Pip?

491
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Was that the pygmy python? Pip.

492
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Yeah.

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Yeah. Pip is so cute. Small smallest python

494
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in the world. They smell through their tongues?

495
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They do have noses, and they can smell.

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But Oh, okay. They say that they I

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don't know anything. Yeah. No. That's okay. I

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mean, that's that's another thing that a lot

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of people believe because we always say that

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that tongue flicking is them smelling with with

501
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their tongue. But really what it is is

502
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they are they can smell normally.

503
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Probably not great. They probably don't have a

504
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great sense of of nose smell,

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but I don't know. I'm just guessing. But

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that tongue, what it does is it picks

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up scent particles in the air. That's why

508
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we call it smelling. But what it does

509
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is they pull it back in and there's

510
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a hole in the roof of their mouth

511
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called the Jacobson's organ that goes directly

512
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to their brain. And they hit their tongue

513
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with that Jacobson or hit their tongue to

514
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the Jacobson's organ, and it tells

515
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them everything that's going on in the room.

516
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It's their main sense. They they that's a

517
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that's a better sense for them than vision

518
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and anything else. So they can tell directionally.

519
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A snake could be, like, on the side

520
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of a trail and they could tongue flick

521
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and they can tell directionally

522
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where a rodent is. Not just that there's

523
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a rodent in the area somewhere, but they've

524
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got those 2 forks on their tongue and

525
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they can tell they've picked up more scents

526
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on one of the forks than the other.

527
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So it's

528
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the rodent is off to the right or

529
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something.

530
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That's like a water witcher.

531
00:18:50,589 --> 00:18:52,829
Yeah. Yes. Exactly. It's like a water witcher.

532
00:18:52,829 --> 00:18:53,329
Yeah.

533
00:18:53,630 --> 00:18:55,470
That's really cool. I just noticed that as

534
00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:58,654
I was snuggling with your bebez that they

535
00:18:58,795 --> 00:19:00,475
they would stick their tongue out along my

536
00:19:00,475 --> 00:19:01,994
face. You know? And I thought, oh, are

537
00:19:01,994 --> 00:19:03,994
they sniffing me? They're giving me. Yeah. They're

538
00:19:04,075 --> 00:19:05,994
yeah. And they'll they'll they'll touch your face

539
00:19:05,994 --> 00:19:07,515
with it. Like, they wanna they wanna figure

540
00:19:07,515 --> 00:19:08,975
out what that is. You know?

541
00:19:09,994 --> 00:19:12,394
Yeah. They and I know I know you

542
00:19:12,394 --> 00:19:13,615
say that they

543
00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:15,600
are they very bright? I mean, it seems

544
00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,340
like they are an instinct driven, but they

545
00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:20,100
I like to anthropomorphize

546
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,779
pretty much everything.

547
00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,299
They seem to have so much personality individually.

548
00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:27,119
They do. They they do have a lot

549
00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:28,420
of personality individually.

550
00:19:28,894 --> 00:19:30,994
They are instinct driven. However,

551
00:19:31,534 --> 00:19:33,694
this this fallacy of, you know, we we

552
00:19:33,694 --> 00:19:35,774
talk about the reptile brain. And when we

553
00:19:35,774 --> 00:19:37,534
when we say the reptile brain, we're talking

554
00:19:37,534 --> 00:19:39,534
about the part of the brain in humans

555
00:19:39,534 --> 00:19:40,835
that just goes off instinct,

556
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:44,329
because the idea used to be that reptiles

557
00:19:44,389 --> 00:19:46,869
and amphibians only act on instinct. They don't

558
00:19:46,869 --> 00:19:48,549
have any feelings. They don't have anything, you

559
00:19:48,549 --> 00:19:50,250
know, and it's just not true.

560
00:19:50,629 --> 00:19:51,450
They are trainable.

561
00:19:51,829 --> 00:19:54,149
I I train I target train a lot

562
00:19:54,149 --> 00:19:56,765
of my snakes. So target training for just

563
00:19:56,765 --> 00:19:58,305
for those who don't know is,

564
00:19:58,684 --> 00:20:00,605
I present a target to them, a colored

565
00:20:00,605 --> 00:20:01,105
disc,

566
00:20:01,404 --> 00:20:01,904
and

567
00:20:02,285 --> 00:20:04,924
that means that food is available. So for,

568
00:20:04,924 --> 00:20:07,484
like, the reticulated pythons and my my black

569
00:20:07,484 --> 00:20:09,325
headed pythons and my boa, I do this

570
00:20:09,325 --> 00:20:11,089
with. When they see that target, they know

571
00:20:11,089 --> 00:20:13,009
food is available. The only time they get

572
00:20:13,009 --> 00:20:15,089
fed is when they see that target. So

573
00:20:15,089 --> 00:20:16,529
if they don't see the target, they know

574
00:20:16,529 --> 00:20:18,609
they're not getting fed. But the idea is

575
00:20:18,609 --> 00:20:20,929
that they follow the target, touch it with

576
00:20:20,929 --> 00:20:22,934
their nose or tongue, and then they get

577
00:20:22,934 --> 00:20:25,335
their meal. So they're trained that way. I

578
00:20:25,335 --> 00:20:27,255
have other snakes that that I'll let out

579
00:20:27,255 --> 00:20:28,855
to roam around the room if they want,

580
00:20:28,855 --> 00:20:30,775
and I have them trained I have one

581
00:20:30,775 --> 00:20:33,255
specifically trained not to go in a certain

582
00:20:33,255 --> 00:20:35,015
area that she likes to go in and

583
00:20:35,015 --> 00:20:36,539
I don't want her to go there. So

584
00:20:36,539 --> 00:20:39,420
I trained her, to not go there and

585
00:20:39,420 --> 00:20:40,160
she doesn't.

586
00:20:41,259 --> 00:20:43,019
And you did that all with food? No.

587
00:20:43,019 --> 00:20:44,460
I didn't do that with food. What I

588
00:20:44,460 --> 00:20:47,420
did is I I opened her enclosure and

589
00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:49,355
kept it open and I let her come

590
00:20:49,355 --> 00:20:50,795
out on her own like I always do

591
00:20:50,795 --> 00:20:53,134
and she would she would always go behind

592
00:20:53,434 --> 00:20:55,835
it was it was in and behind other

593
00:20:55,835 --> 00:20:57,835
enclosures and she would always try to go

594
00:20:57,835 --> 00:20:59,515
there. So as soon as she would start

595
00:20:59,515 --> 00:21:00,875
going there, I would pick her up and

596
00:21:00,875 --> 00:21:02,875
put her back in her enclosure and leave

597
00:21:02,875 --> 00:21:04,750
it open. So I'm not, you know, I'm

598
00:21:04,750 --> 00:21:06,269
not shutting it and saying you can't get

599
00:21:06,269 --> 00:21:07,630
out. But then I would just let her

600
00:21:07,630 --> 00:21:08,910
come back out and try it again and

601
00:21:08,910 --> 00:21:10,029
I'd pick her up and put her back

602
00:21:10,029 --> 00:21:11,869
in her enclosure. We did that for I

603
00:21:11,869 --> 00:21:13,470
probably did that for a week and I

604
00:21:13,470 --> 00:21:15,230
would do it maybe, I don't know, 5

605
00:21:15,230 --> 00:21:16,450
or 6, 8 times

606
00:21:17,285 --> 00:21:18,884
a day until she would decide to go

607
00:21:18,884 --> 00:21:21,285
somewhere else. And after that week of doing

608
00:21:21,285 --> 00:21:22,345
that, it just,

609
00:21:23,285 --> 00:21:25,924
it just enforced in her brain that when

610
00:21:25,924 --> 00:21:28,164
she goes back there, it leads to back

611
00:21:28,164 --> 00:21:29,065
in her cage.

612
00:21:29,380 --> 00:21:31,059
And she's trying to explore. She doesn't wanna

613
00:21:31,059 --> 00:21:33,299
go back in her cage. So every time

614
00:21:33,299 --> 00:21:35,299
she goes back there, she she ends up

615
00:21:35,299 --> 00:21:37,140
in her cage again. So it wasn't a

616
00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:40,339
negative reinforcement. It was just that's that's where

617
00:21:40,339 --> 00:21:42,099
you end up if you, you know, if

618
00:21:42,099 --> 00:21:44,585
you go back there. So that was I

619
00:21:44,585 --> 00:21:46,744
trained her 2 years ago, two and a

620
00:21:46,744 --> 00:21:48,684
half years ago, and she still

621
00:21:49,065 --> 00:21:51,704
doesn't go behind that rack. She'll poke her

622
00:21:51,704 --> 00:21:53,865
head in there and then and then come

623
00:21:53,865 --> 00:21:54,365
back

624
00:21:54,744 --> 00:21:56,125
out and go somewhere else.

625
00:21:56,539 --> 00:21:58,380
It's pretty interesting. So interesting. That's what I

626
00:21:58,380 --> 00:22:00,240
like to call the Groundhog Day training.

627
00:22:00,700 --> 00:22:01,519
Yeah. Yeah.

628
00:22:01,980 --> 00:22:02,720
That's right.

629
00:22:03,099 --> 00:22:05,099
But, yeah, they they are super smart. They're

630
00:22:05,179 --> 00:22:07,500
they they're aware of me. They know who

631
00:22:07,500 --> 00:22:09,384
I am. They know that that I'm different

632
00:22:09,384 --> 00:22:11,305
than you, and you and you've experienced this.

633
00:22:11,305 --> 00:22:13,305
If I hand you a snake, they tongue

634
00:22:13,305 --> 00:22:15,625
flick on you and they go, oh, I'm

635
00:22:15,625 --> 00:22:18,025
probably safe, but I'm not super comfortable with

636
00:22:18,025 --> 00:22:19,704
this new person. Let me find the guy

637
00:22:19,704 --> 00:22:20,984
that I know. Let me find the big

638
00:22:20,984 --> 00:22:23,079
monkey that feeds me, You know?

639
00:22:23,380 --> 00:22:26,519
Yes. Yeah. Although they do they're still pretty

640
00:22:28,099 --> 00:22:28,599
interested.

641
00:22:28,980 --> 00:22:30,420
Yes. I don't know what the right word

642
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:32,579
is. Yeah. For sure. Especially the ones that

643
00:22:32,579 --> 00:22:35,054
I hand you. They're they're more The the

644
00:22:35,054 --> 00:22:36,575
ones that I've handed you for the most

645
00:22:36,575 --> 00:22:38,974
part are more interested in hanging out with

646
00:22:38,974 --> 00:22:41,534
other people. I have some others that will

647
00:22:41,615 --> 00:22:43,294
if I hand them to you, they'll they're

648
00:22:43,294 --> 00:22:45,134
not gonna try to run away, but they'll

649
00:22:45,134 --> 00:22:46,654
sort of be like, let me find this

650
00:22:46,654 --> 00:22:48,174
other guy like a kid does to their

651
00:22:48,174 --> 00:22:50,599
mom. You know? Sure. Their mom hands the

652
00:22:50,599 --> 00:22:52,781
kid off to some stranger and the kid

653
00:22:52,781 --> 00:22:54,963
reaches for their mom really quick. You know?

654
00:22:54,963 --> 00:22:57,145
Well, and you have the benefit of having

655
00:22:57,145 --> 00:22:59,600
them from babyhood so that you can Yeah.

656
00:22:59,873 --> 00:23:02,055
Really show them that physical touch is okay.

657
00:23:02,295 --> 00:23:04,295
Yeah. And they trust me. You know, snakes

658
00:23:04,295 --> 00:23:06,315
are never snakes don't bond,

659
00:23:06,695 --> 00:23:08,775
so they're they never want to hang out

660
00:23:08,775 --> 00:23:10,855
with me necessarily. They'd rather just do their

661
00:23:10,855 --> 00:23:13,494
own thing. But if given the option, if

662
00:23:13,494 --> 00:23:14,855
I'm holding them and then I hand them

663
00:23:14,855 --> 00:23:16,880
off to a stranger, they'll go, oh, actually,

664
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:18,240
I'd rather be with that guy that I

665
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:18,740
know.

666
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,119
And then once I'm holding them, they're gonna

667
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:22,720
be like, okay. Now I'd rather go off

668
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:24,960
on my own. You know? It's like they're

669
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,640
never in their cage going, wow. I hope

670
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,720
that big monkey comes and pulls me out.

671
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:30,804
You know? I'm realizing right now I might

672
00:23:30,804 --> 00:23:31,784
be part snake.

673
00:23:35,365 --> 00:23:37,444
I know that when we brought out one

674
00:23:37,444 --> 00:23:39,704
of your babies, they, actually,

675
00:23:40,085 --> 00:23:42,369
she was quite large. She I think it

676
00:23:42,369 --> 00:23:44,309
was a girl, the the white one.

677
00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:46,529
And she I was wearing my overalls, and

678
00:23:46,529 --> 00:23:48,690
she crawled around me and then went and

679
00:23:48,690 --> 00:23:51,329
hung out underneath my oh, inside my overalls,

680
00:23:51,329 --> 00:23:54,069
like, underneath my butt. Yeah. Yeah. And

681
00:23:54,484 --> 00:23:56,404
that and you had and I it surprised

682
00:23:56,404 --> 00:23:58,644
me, and and I thought, oh, I thought

683
00:23:58,644 --> 00:23:59,865
that they would be more

684
00:24:00,644 --> 00:24:02,404
in the mood to be out and about

685
00:24:02,404 --> 00:24:04,244
and seeing what's what. And you said that

686
00:24:04,244 --> 00:24:06,025
they're really not aggressive

687
00:24:06,404 --> 00:24:06,904
or

688
00:24:07,420 --> 00:24:09,180
predatory or anything like that. They really just

689
00:24:09,180 --> 00:24:10,160
want to find

690
00:24:10,539 --> 00:24:11,279
the least

691
00:24:11,740 --> 00:24:14,299
amount of space to get into and hide

692
00:24:14,299 --> 00:24:16,700
and and chill out. That they're They they

693
00:24:16,700 --> 00:24:17,599
wanna be secure.

694
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:19,259
Well, yeah, I think you called them a

695
00:24:19,259 --> 00:24:20,079
meat tube.

696
00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:23,474
They are meat tubes. Yeah. And that's how

697
00:24:23,474 --> 00:24:25,394
that's how all the other animals in the

698
00:24:25,875 --> 00:24:27,875
in, you know, these these are ball pythons.

699
00:24:27,875 --> 00:24:30,275
They come from Africa. And every other animal

700
00:24:30,275 --> 00:24:32,055
whether it's on the ground or flying

701
00:24:32,515 --> 00:24:34,674
see them as meat tubes. And so they

702
00:24:34,674 --> 00:24:35,654
just want to

703
00:24:36,059 --> 00:24:37,980
get in a nice safe spot that's kind

704
00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:40,139
of their natural behavior. And so you you're

705
00:24:40,139 --> 00:24:42,619
talking about Keita, and Keita is one that

706
00:24:42,619 --> 00:24:45,019
is not super comfortable being held. So what

707
00:24:45,019 --> 00:24:46,299
she did is she was like, let me

708
00:24:46,299 --> 00:24:47,980
find this dark space. It was in your

709
00:24:47,980 --> 00:24:48,480
overalls,

710
00:24:49,005 --> 00:24:50,765
basically. And she's like, let me just crawl

711
00:24:50,765 --> 00:24:52,365
down into this dark space before I feel

712
00:24:52,365 --> 00:24:53,025
more comfortable.

713
00:24:53,724 --> 00:24:55,805
Yeah. She's so cute. And then she went

714
00:24:55,805 --> 00:24:58,464
on to behind the the mirror. Mhmm.

715
00:24:59,164 --> 00:25:02,365
Yeah. Yep. You train kids how to be

716
00:25:02,365 --> 00:25:04,380
okay with them too or people in general.

717
00:25:04,380 --> 00:25:05,900
You that's part of your work is to

718
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:07,980
help them not be afraid? Yeah. Yeah. Peep

719
00:25:08,059 --> 00:25:10,940
more it's it's usually adults because kids don't

720
00:25:11,259 --> 00:25:13,580
unless the parent has worked on making their

721
00:25:13,580 --> 00:25:14,799
kid afraid of snakes,

722
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:17,554
generally, I find that kids aren't afraid. I

723
00:25:17,554 --> 00:25:19,474
have run into children who are afraid of

724
00:25:19,474 --> 00:25:19,974
animals

725
00:25:20,674 --> 00:25:22,994
in general and snakes would fall under that

726
00:25:22,994 --> 00:25:25,654
category. But for the most part, kids are

727
00:25:25,875 --> 00:25:28,994
are totally fine with snakes. But adults, I

728
00:25:28,994 --> 00:25:30,515
have a series on the channel that I

729
00:25:30,515 --> 00:25:32,434
call introducing people to snakes who are afraid

730
00:25:32,434 --> 00:25:35,130
of snakes, where I bring someone on who

731
00:25:35,130 --> 00:25:37,289
is an actor or a comic or someone

732
00:25:37,289 --> 00:25:38,649
who I know is gonna be good on

733
00:25:38,649 --> 00:25:40,649
camera. Like, I don't wanna bring some dud

734
00:25:40,649 --> 00:25:44,009
on. But they're but they're also genuinely afraid

735
00:25:44,009 --> 00:25:46,009
of snakes, and I help them get over

736
00:25:46,009 --> 00:25:47,470
their fear. You know?

737
00:25:48,005 --> 00:25:50,085
And it's fun. That's great. Talk about the

738
00:25:50,085 --> 00:25:52,265
channel a little bit and also the adventures,

739
00:25:52,325 --> 00:25:55,445
where it's taken you. You go now Yeah.

740
00:25:55,684 --> 00:25:58,244
Into the jungle and talk about all that.

741
00:25:58,244 --> 00:26:00,965
Yeah. Yeah. It's really taken me places that

742
00:26:00,965 --> 00:26:03,179
I never thought I would be. Yeah. So

743
00:26:03,179 --> 00:26:05,579
the channel, you know, started as, like I

744
00:26:05,579 --> 00:26:07,259
said, as the COVID project. We're in the

745
00:26:07,259 --> 00:26:09,419
3rd year right now. It'll be 4 years

746
00:26:09,419 --> 00:26:10,639
in in December.

747
00:26:11,019 --> 00:26:12,079
It grew steadily

748
00:26:12,380 --> 00:26:14,559
and kind of became my full time job.

749
00:26:14,700 --> 00:26:17,119
And it started off as me talking about

750
00:26:17,964 --> 00:26:21,904
behavior and care and training and and socialization

751
00:26:22,524 --> 00:26:24,365
of snakes in my room, as well as

752
00:26:24,365 --> 00:26:26,204
the, you know, teaching people how to not

753
00:26:26,204 --> 00:26:28,125
fear snakes, which is a sort of separate

754
00:26:28,125 --> 00:26:30,684
category in, you know, in my little studio

755
00:26:30,684 --> 00:26:31,184
here.

756
00:26:31,484 --> 00:26:33,024
And then I started

757
00:26:33,450 --> 00:26:33,950
traveling,

758
00:26:34,250 --> 00:26:36,250
doing doing little, you know, going out into

759
00:26:36,250 --> 00:26:38,890
the desert to find snakes or whatever, or

760
00:26:38,890 --> 00:26:41,849
going to somebody else's facility to talk about

761
00:26:41,849 --> 00:26:44,009
their animals, or going to a reptile show

762
00:26:44,009 --> 00:26:46,615
to talk about that. But then, I ended

763
00:26:46,615 --> 00:26:47,115
up

764
00:26:47,494 --> 00:26:48,315
last year,

765
00:26:48,694 --> 00:26:50,954
in the Amazon jungle, I went to Suriname

766
00:26:51,335 --> 00:26:53,974
to find boas and anacondas in the wild

767
00:26:53,974 --> 00:26:55,994
and specifically emerald tree boas

768
00:26:56,295 --> 00:26:57,434
to move basically,

769
00:26:57,829 --> 00:27:00,630
there's an area on the Quarantine River, which

770
00:27:00,630 --> 00:27:01,130
which

771
00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:03,509
you've got Suriname on one side and Guyana

772
00:27:03,509 --> 00:27:05,509
on the other. And in this one little

773
00:27:05,509 --> 00:27:07,910
area of the Quarantine River, it's highly trafficked.

774
00:27:07,910 --> 00:27:10,150
There are a lot of hunters and trappers

775
00:27:10,150 --> 00:27:11,750
that will if they see a green snake

776
00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:13,694
in a tree, they're gonna grab it because

777
00:27:13,694 --> 00:27:15,075
they know they can make $35

778
00:27:15,535 --> 00:27:17,855
selling it to someone who will put it

779
00:27:17,855 --> 00:27:19,875
in the in the export system

780
00:27:20,335 --> 00:27:22,174
and either send it to the US or

781
00:27:22,174 --> 00:27:23,954
the UK to become pets.

782
00:27:24,255 --> 00:27:27,289
And, those snakes often don't survive that trip.

783
00:27:27,289 --> 00:27:29,369
And if they do, they're sickly by the

784
00:27:29,369 --> 00:27:31,049
time they get there, and they won't survive

785
00:27:31,049 --> 00:27:32,029
long oftentimes,

786
00:27:32,970 --> 00:27:35,210
in somebody's cage. What we did, I've been

787
00:27:35,210 --> 00:27:37,930
twice now. And on both those trips, we

788
00:27:37,930 --> 00:27:39,450
find as many of these snakes as we

789
00:27:39,450 --> 00:27:41,285
can in that area. We pull them out

790
00:27:41,285 --> 00:27:43,044
of trees and take them deeper into the

791
00:27:43,044 --> 00:27:45,044
jungle and re release them in an area

792
00:27:45,044 --> 00:27:46,025
that is not

793
00:27:46,565 --> 00:27:48,484
that people don't go as much. I I

794
00:27:48,484 --> 00:27:51,044
ended up becoming friends with a middle man

795
00:27:51,044 --> 00:27:53,285
who buys these snakes from the people who

796
00:27:53,285 --> 00:27:54,964
who trap them, and then he sells them

797
00:27:54,964 --> 00:27:55,785
to the exporters.

798
00:27:56,109 --> 00:27:57,950
And so I'll go to him. I've done

799
00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:59,389
this twice now where when I get to

800
00:27:59,389 --> 00:28:00,669
Suriname, I go to him and I go,

801
00:28:00,669 --> 00:28:02,269
what do you got? And we end up

802
00:28:02,269 --> 00:28:03,789
buying all of his snakes that he that

803
00:28:03,789 --> 00:28:05,309
he currently has and we take them back.

804
00:28:05,309 --> 00:28:06,750
So those are snakes that have been wild

805
00:28:06,750 --> 00:28:07,964
caught within the last

806
00:28:08,284 --> 00:28:10,684
week or 2, maybe. We just you know,

807
00:28:10,684 --> 00:28:13,345
it's cheap. It's like between $5.35

808
00:28:14,525 --> 00:28:16,684
per snake, and we might end up with,

809
00:28:16,684 --> 00:28:19,724
you know, maybe he has, between 5.10. It's

810
00:28:19,724 --> 00:28:22,029
not like a huge amount, you know. We

811
00:28:22,029 --> 00:28:23,170
bring those back and

812
00:28:23,869 --> 00:28:24,930
and re release them.

813
00:28:25,710 --> 00:28:28,349
Do they have a homing sense where if

814
00:28:28,349 --> 00:28:30,589
you get them and put them further into

815
00:28:30,589 --> 00:28:32,589
the jungle, will they try and go back

816
00:28:32,589 --> 00:28:34,349
to where they were before? That's a great

817
00:28:34,349 --> 00:28:36,990
question, and we don't know. Here's the trick

818
00:28:36,990 --> 00:28:37,605
with this.

819
00:28:38,164 --> 00:28:40,265
When I relocated a rattlesnake

820
00:28:40,644 --> 00:28:41,785
in Southern California,

821
00:28:42,164 --> 00:28:43,384
which I do sometimes,

822
00:28:43,845 --> 00:28:46,085
there is sort of a general rule that

823
00:28:46,085 --> 00:28:48,085
if you take that rattlesnake more than a

824
00:28:48,085 --> 00:28:49,544
mile from where it

825
00:28:50,005 --> 00:28:52,409
from where you found it, its chances of

826
00:28:52,409 --> 00:28:54,029
survival is about 50%.

827
00:28:54,569 --> 00:28:57,130
And it's because they know within a mile

828
00:28:57,130 --> 00:28:58,829
of that of that air that territory,

829
00:28:59,130 --> 00:29:01,369
they know where to get their resources. They're

830
00:29:01,369 --> 00:29:02,649
living in the desert, you know, so they

831
00:29:02,649 --> 00:29:04,089
know where water is, they know where they

832
00:29:04,089 --> 00:29:06,009
can get food, they know where they can

833
00:29:06,009 --> 00:29:06,909
hide from predators,

834
00:29:07,394 --> 00:29:09,715
stuff like that. There was studies done on

835
00:29:09,715 --> 00:29:12,115
rattlesnakes. There's never been a study done on

836
00:29:12,115 --> 00:29:14,355
snakes in the Amazon jungle or or emerald

837
00:29:14,355 --> 00:29:15,095
tree boas.

838
00:29:15,555 --> 00:29:18,035
But the thought is that that first of

839
00:29:18,035 --> 00:29:21,339
all, there's food, water, shelter everywhere in the

840
00:29:21,339 --> 00:29:22,940
John Cole no matter where you're at. So

841
00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:24,779
they're they're never gonna have to look for

842
00:29:24,779 --> 00:29:25,519
any resources.

843
00:29:25,900 --> 00:29:27,580
If I find them and or my guy

844
00:29:27,660 --> 00:29:29,660
it's usually one one of the guides that

845
00:29:29,660 --> 00:29:32,319
that finds these snakes. If those guides find

846
00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,240
the snakes in the tree in that area,

847
00:29:34,555 --> 00:29:36,555
a hunter or a trapper is definitely gonna

848
00:29:36,555 --> 00:29:38,315
find them that same night or the next

849
00:29:38,315 --> 00:29:40,154
night or whatever. So getting them out of

850
00:29:40,154 --> 00:29:42,335
there is is the most important thing.

851
00:29:42,955 --> 00:29:45,434
I my guess is that they kind of

852
00:29:45,434 --> 00:29:47,674
stay in the range that that we put

853
00:29:47,674 --> 00:29:49,375
them in. I doubt that they have

854
00:29:50,079 --> 00:29:52,000
a homing sense that that brings them back,

855
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,919
but we don't know because the the study

856
00:29:53,919 --> 00:29:54,899
has never been done.

857
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,799
They don't have ears to put a tag

858
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,119
on. Right. Well, you can't so here's the

859
00:29:59,119 --> 00:30:01,119
thing. I've talked I've talked to some people

860
00:30:01,119 --> 00:30:03,515
about this. You actually can tag them. So

861
00:30:03,515 --> 00:30:05,194
you can put a little tracker in them

862
00:30:05,194 --> 00:30:07,035
that's or it's a it's a little scanning

863
00:30:07,035 --> 00:30:10,315
device that that you just, implant with a

864
00:30:10,315 --> 00:30:10,815
with

865
00:30:11,194 --> 00:30:11,934
a syringe

866
00:30:12,555 --> 00:30:14,474
and it when you scan it, you can

867
00:30:14,474 --> 00:30:16,200
pull up all the information on that snake

868
00:30:16,279 --> 00:30:17,559
where it was found before or whatever. But

869
00:30:17,559 --> 00:30:19,319
you have to catch it again in order

870
00:30:19,319 --> 00:30:20,759
to scan it and in the jungle it's

871
00:30:20,759 --> 00:30:21,899
really tough to do that.

872
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,200
You can also put a GPS tracker on

873
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,039
a snake and that's what I would love

874
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:27,720
to do with some snakes. Like a little

875
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:30,119
collar? It's it's actually a it's a thing

876
00:30:30,119 --> 00:30:30,859
that's surgically

877
00:30:31,825 --> 00:30:32,325
implanted,

878
00:30:32,705 --> 00:30:34,065
but then you have to take it out

879
00:30:34,065 --> 00:30:34,565
again

880
00:30:34,945 --> 00:30:36,785
before it goes dead. So you gotta find

881
00:30:36,785 --> 00:30:38,164
that snake a year later

882
00:30:38,705 --> 00:30:40,305
and and take it out. And if the

883
00:30:40,305 --> 00:30:42,705
GPS tracking is working, you you can find

884
00:30:42,705 --> 00:30:45,365
it, you know. But it's pretty invasive,

885
00:30:46,099 --> 00:30:48,500
but it would tell us what that behavior

886
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:50,660
is and I'd love to learn, you know.

887
00:30:50,660 --> 00:30:52,740
Yeah. I I know that tracking is important

888
00:30:52,740 --> 00:30:54,660
with creatures, but I would think that just

889
00:30:54,660 --> 00:30:55,960
to stop poachers,

890
00:30:56,980 --> 00:30:57,880
throw a little

891
00:30:58,339 --> 00:31:01,080
neon spray paint on them or something. Well,

892
00:31:01,945 --> 00:31:03,384
also, by the way, the I should be

893
00:31:03,384 --> 00:31:05,065
clear because I I was saying that it's

894
00:31:05,065 --> 00:31:07,565
a highly trafficked area. These aren't poachers,

895
00:31:07,865 --> 00:31:09,705
and it is legal, and it is a

896
00:31:09,705 --> 00:31:11,785
way of life for people in Suriname. And

897
00:31:11,785 --> 00:31:13,865
these hunt so these hunters are legally they

898
00:31:13,865 --> 00:31:15,384
can just go out and catch whatever they

899
00:31:15,384 --> 00:31:17,490
want. The majority of the money they make

900
00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:19,570
is on birds. So they're going and and

901
00:31:19,570 --> 00:31:20,390
taking baby

902
00:31:20,690 --> 00:31:23,170
parrots and and macaws out of trees and

903
00:31:23,170 --> 00:31:25,009
putting those on the market. They get the

904
00:31:25,009 --> 00:31:27,170
most money for those. But on their trip,

905
00:31:27,170 --> 00:31:28,289
they go out for, like, a week at

906
00:31:28,289 --> 00:31:29,570
a time, 2 weeks at a time. If

907
00:31:29,570 --> 00:31:31,170
they see a green snake, they're gonna snag

908
00:31:31,170 --> 00:31:33,765
it too. But also people that are going

909
00:31:33,765 --> 00:31:35,365
to work that are that work in the

910
00:31:35,365 --> 00:31:35,865
mines,

911
00:31:36,404 --> 00:31:38,724
they'll they'll go down river and on their

912
00:31:38,724 --> 00:31:40,884
on their trip in, they're looking for snakes

913
00:31:40,884 --> 00:31:42,964
too. And they'll grab whatever snakes they can,

914
00:31:42,964 --> 00:31:44,244
put them in a bag and then they

915
00:31:44,244 --> 00:31:45,839
go work in the mines for 2 weeks

916
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:47,440
and that snake sits in a bag for

917
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:48,179
2 weeks

918
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,400
and then they take it back and and

919
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,140
sell it and they make extra cash. So

920
00:31:53,279 --> 00:31:54,579
it's legal to do

921
00:31:55,119 --> 00:31:57,759
and they're not depleting the Amazon of these

922
00:31:57,759 --> 00:31:59,679
emerald tree boas, there there's a lot of

923
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:00,179
them.

924
00:32:00,514 --> 00:32:02,514
It's not like I'm saving the world. What

925
00:32:02,514 --> 00:32:04,755
I'm doing is saving a handful of snakes,

926
00:32:04,755 --> 00:32:05,894
individual snakes

927
00:32:06,355 --> 00:32:07,654
that would have otherwise

928
00:32:08,115 --> 00:32:10,694
maybe died in the in the process of

929
00:32:11,634 --> 00:32:12,934
being captured and

930
00:32:13,759 --> 00:32:16,000
These snakes get quite large. How in the

931
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,240
world do you get one of I've seen

932
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,720
videos of they're huge. How do you get

933
00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,559
them out of the tree? Well, the the

934
00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:24,559
emeralds are not that big. I mean, you

935
00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,319
could get you could get an emerald that's

936
00:32:26,319 --> 00:32:28,559
6 feet long, but really the thickness That

937
00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:30,934
seems big. Yeah. It seems big. It seems

938
00:32:30,934 --> 00:32:32,775
big, but it's really not. Like, when you

939
00:32:32,775 --> 00:32:33,755
stretch it out,

940
00:32:34,055 --> 00:32:35,654
it's 6 feet, but you're never gonna see

941
00:32:35,654 --> 00:32:37,335
it stretched out and it doesn't seem like

942
00:32:37,335 --> 00:32:38,615
that. Like, I can easily hold it in

943
00:32:38,615 --> 00:32:40,055
one hand. They're not that big, but the

944
00:32:40,055 --> 00:32:41,494
way we get them out of the trees

945
00:32:41,494 --> 00:32:44,055
is we have a a long we actually

946
00:32:44,055 --> 00:32:45,799
have a series of 3 or 4 of

947
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,039
these long wooden poles with a fork at

948
00:32:48,039 --> 00:32:50,599
the end. And when we see, an emerald

949
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,599
up in a tree, we just put put

950
00:32:52,599 --> 00:32:53,259
the fork,

951
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:54,380
you know,

952
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,839
put get the snake in the fork basically,

953
00:32:56,839 --> 00:32:58,539
and then twist it like like spaghetti

954
00:32:59,535 --> 00:33:01,234
and and bring the snake down.

955
00:33:02,335 --> 00:33:03,934
Works really well. So we can do that

956
00:33:03,934 --> 00:33:05,775
with with emerald tree boas, and we do

957
00:33:05,775 --> 00:33:07,455
it with Amazon tree boas, which are a

958
00:33:07,455 --> 00:33:10,035
different species and they're much smaller, but those

959
00:33:10,174 --> 00:33:11,295
also get get,

960
00:33:11,695 --> 00:33:12,515
caught sometimes.

961
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:15,679
Now are you working at all toward getting

962
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:18,559
a show, like, on National Geographic or anything

963
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,559
to to do this? You know, I'm not

964
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:22,079
right now. I would love to. It would

965
00:33:22,079 --> 00:33:23,460
be fun. But,

966
00:33:23,839 --> 00:33:25,519
you know, there are a lot of people

967
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:26,884
that that are you know, when you when

968
00:33:26,884 --> 00:33:29,284
you get into, like, the reptile YouTube world,

969
00:33:29,284 --> 00:33:31,044
there's a number of people that are really

970
00:33:31,044 --> 00:33:33,784
good that could have their own TV show.

971
00:33:34,085 --> 00:33:36,484
I could potentially, but, like, my channel the

972
00:33:36,484 --> 00:33:37,924
way my channel is set up right now,

973
00:33:37,924 --> 00:33:40,184
it's it's definitely a YouTube channel.

974
00:33:40,539 --> 00:33:42,140
You know, I do some silly funny things

975
00:33:42,140 --> 00:33:43,900
on it and and it's but it's for

976
00:33:43,900 --> 00:33:45,420
sure a YouTube channel. I think if I

977
00:33:45,420 --> 00:33:46,859
were to pitch a TV show, I would

978
00:33:46,859 --> 00:33:48,619
have to come up with a completely different

979
00:33:48,619 --> 00:33:49,119
concept.

980
00:33:49,579 --> 00:33:51,259
You know? Yeah. And still would be teaching

981
00:33:51,259 --> 00:33:53,180
people about snakes and maybe finding them in

982
00:33:53,180 --> 00:33:55,725
the wild or reptiles in general could be,

983
00:33:55,725 --> 00:33:57,184
you know, we could do anything.

984
00:33:57,644 --> 00:33:59,664
But, I haven't I don't have anything

985
00:34:00,285 --> 00:34:01,664
that I'm pitching right now.

986
00:34:02,525 --> 00:34:04,465
And they all eat different things,

987
00:34:04,924 --> 00:34:07,680
mice or rats or I think you said

988
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:10,539
crickets sometimes? No. They eat bugs too or

989
00:34:10,539 --> 00:34:12,460
just Not not bugs. Uh-huh. That must just

990
00:34:12,460 --> 00:34:14,380
be the lizards I'm thinking of. Yeah. Lizards

991
00:34:14,380 --> 00:34:16,539
eat eat bugs oftentimes depending on the species.

992
00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:18,860
The snakes right now with the snakes that

993
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:21,260
I have, I feed frozen thawed. I don't

994
00:34:21,260 --> 00:34:23,985
feed live, but I have a dedicated freezer

995
00:34:24,364 --> 00:34:25,025
that has

996
00:34:25,324 --> 00:34:27,264
mice, rats, chicks

997
00:34:27,885 --> 00:34:28,625
and quail.

998
00:34:28,925 --> 00:34:30,065
And reptilinx

999
00:34:30,364 --> 00:34:30,864
which

1000
00:34:31,485 --> 00:34:34,465
are basically sausages that are made for reptiles

1001
00:34:35,219 --> 00:34:37,300
And they I have a couple of species

1002
00:34:37,300 --> 00:34:40,260
that naturally in the wild eat other snakes

1003
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:40,920
and lizards.

1004
00:34:41,380 --> 00:34:43,380
So I have reptilinx that are made of

1005
00:34:43,380 --> 00:34:44,920
iguana meat or

1006
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,219
whole prey iguana. So it's like the whole

1007
00:34:47,219 --> 00:34:49,619
thing, guts and bones and everything mixed up

1008
00:34:49,619 --> 00:34:50,679
in a little sausage.

1009
00:34:51,035 --> 00:34:53,035
Jimmy Dean, eat your heart out. Yeah. Yeah.

1010
00:34:53,035 --> 00:34:54,795
The snake that the snake that you like,

1011
00:34:54,795 --> 00:34:57,114
Pip, the little tiny one Yeah. Gets little

1012
00:34:57,114 --> 00:34:59,855
micro links, which are 1 gram each,

1013
00:35:00,315 --> 00:35:01,375
and she gets those.

1014
00:35:02,555 --> 00:35:05,295
She's so freaking cute. Yeah. She's pretty cute.

1015
00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:06,440
Yeah.

1016
00:35:07,139 --> 00:35:09,059
How do you get them to get amorous

1017
00:35:09,059 --> 00:35:09,960
with each other?

1018
00:35:10,260 --> 00:35:12,019
Turn the lights down, put on a little

1019
00:35:12,019 --> 00:35:13,460
berry white. What are you gonna what are

1020
00:35:13,460 --> 00:35:14,900
you doing? Yeah. You don't have to do

1021
00:35:14,900 --> 00:35:16,900
much with the with the species that I

1022
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:19,300
breed. They're every species is different. And some

1023
00:35:19,300 --> 00:35:21,394
some of them, you have to cycle their

1024
00:35:21,394 --> 00:35:23,175
food, you've gotta cycle their temperatures,

1025
00:35:23,954 --> 00:35:26,695
all kinds of crazy stuff. With ball pythons,

1026
00:35:27,315 --> 00:35:28,994
you take a male out of his cage

1027
00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:30,934
and you put it in the female's cage

1028
00:35:31,554 --> 00:35:32,849
for about 3 days.

1029
00:35:33,250 --> 00:35:36,150
And in within 3 days, they will eventually

1030
00:35:36,849 --> 00:35:38,869
lock up, sometimes they do it right away,

1031
00:35:38,930 --> 00:35:40,789
and they basically lock tails

1032
00:35:41,250 --> 00:35:44,210
and then they stay perfectly still for up

1033
00:35:44,210 --> 00:35:46,769
to 3 days. I mean, it's usually not

1034
00:35:46,769 --> 00:35:49,655
that long, but sometimes it is. Sometimes it's

1035
00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:51,094
12 hours, you know,

1036
00:35:51,394 --> 00:35:53,635
whatever. And sometimes within 3 days, they'll lock

1037
00:35:53,635 --> 00:35:55,094
and unlock a couple times,

1038
00:35:55,394 --> 00:35:57,394
you know. But I so I do that

1039
00:35:57,394 --> 00:35:59,815
during breeding season. I do that once every

1040
00:35:59,954 --> 00:36:02,114
every month. Every 4 to 6 weeks, I'll

1041
00:36:02,114 --> 00:36:03,715
put the male in with the female for

1042
00:36:03,715 --> 00:36:05,480
3 days and eventually,

1043
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:07,400
she'll

1044
00:36:07,860 --> 00:36:09,159
lay some eggs for us.

1045
00:36:10,019 --> 00:36:11,880
And they they

1046
00:36:12,260 --> 00:36:15,059
some versions of snakes, some breeds live breed

1047
00:36:15,059 --> 00:36:17,565
or do they all egg only? No. No.

1048
00:36:17,724 --> 00:36:19,244
There are there are a lot of species

1049
00:36:19,244 --> 00:36:21,565
that do that do live birth. I have

1050
00:36:21,565 --> 00:36:22,304
one boa

1051
00:36:22,605 --> 00:36:24,784
in my group, and boas are are live

1052
00:36:25,324 --> 00:36:25,824
bearing

1053
00:36:26,204 --> 00:36:29,264
snake. Yeah. Pythons are pythons lay eggs.

1054
00:36:29,789 --> 00:36:31,230
Boas are alive. And then and then there

1055
00:36:31,230 --> 00:36:33,550
are other different snakes. Garter snakes are alive.

1056
00:36:33,550 --> 00:36:36,269
Most others lay eggs. Are they protective of

1057
00:36:36,269 --> 00:36:38,190
those eggs once they've laid them to let

1058
00:36:38,190 --> 00:36:40,430
you get in there and snack them away?

1059
00:36:40,430 --> 00:36:43,170
Or They're very protective of their eggs.

1060
00:36:43,695 --> 00:36:45,535
And if you let so I've I have

1061
00:36:45,934 --> 00:36:48,175
so normally what what happens is the female

1062
00:36:48,175 --> 00:36:49,775
lays eggs and then I go in and

1063
00:36:49,775 --> 00:36:51,055
take the eggs and put them into an

1064
00:36:51,055 --> 00:36:53,855
incubator because that's, first of all, it's a

1065
00:36:53,855 --> 00:36:55,795
good way to keep the humidity

1066
00:36:56,414 --> 00:36:58,755
and temperature correct for for those babies.

1067
00:36:59,190 --> 00:37:01,589
But also I can as soon as the

1068
00:37:01,589 --> 00:37:03,670
mother's not on eggs anymore, she can get

1069
00:37:03,670 --> 00:37:04,489
back to eating.

1070
00:37:04,789 --> 00:37:06,550
Otherwise, she'll sit on those eggs for 2

1071
00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:08,789
months and she already hasn't eaten for 2

1072
00:37:08,789 --> 00:37:09,690
to 3 months

1073
00:37:09,989 --> 00:37:12,414
while she's building those eggs, and now she

1074
00:37:12,414 --> 00:37:14,574
won't eat for another 2 months if I

1075
00:37:14,574 --> 00:37:16,014
if I have her sit on them. And

1076
00:37:16,014 --> 00:37:17,775
I have done that before. I've had, female

1077
00:37:17,775 --> 00:37:19,934
maternally incubate before, and it's really interesting and

1078
00:37:19,934 --> 00:37:23,074
cool. It just is she's she's not gonna

1079
00:37:23,375 --> 00:37:24,835
eat for a while. You know?

1080
00:37:25,389 --> 00:37:27,409
How do they go so long without food?

1081
00:37:27,469 --> 00:37:28,590
Oh, they can go they can go a

1082
00:37:28,590 --> 00:37:30,110
year without food. They can go a very

1083
00:37:30,110 --> 00:37:31,869
long time. A a big snake can go

1084
00:37:31,869 --> 00:37:33,489
a really long time without eating.

1085
00:37:33,949 --> 00:37:35,710
And and sometimes they just decide that they're

1086
00:37:35,710 --> 00:37:37,070
gonna take a break from food for a

1087
00:37:37,070 --> 00:37:39,265
couple months, You know? I wish I could

1088
00:37:39,265 --> 00:37:39,844
do that.

1089
00:37:40,864 --> 00:37:43,184
Yeah. You still have me at the their

1090
00:37:43,184 --> 00:37:43,684
tails

1091
00:37:44,065 --> 00:37:46,065
intertwined, and then they don't move for 3

1092
00:37:46,065 --> 00:37:48,465
days. Yeah. I would break up with that

1093
00:37:48,465 --> 00:37:51,349
steak. I know. It's crazy. It's crazy.

1094
00:37:51,650 --> 00:37:53,349
And and here's the other thing.

1095
00:37:53,650 --> 00:37:56,309
Males have 2 penises. Say what? Yep.

1096
00:37:56,769 --> 00:37:59,250
It's crazy. They're called hemipenes, and there's 2

1097
00:37:59,250 --> 00:38:01,410
of them. During coitus, they,

1098
00:38:02,130 --> 00:38:03,989
choose to use 1 or the other.

1099
00:38:06,514 --> 00:38:08,674
So Well, I wonder what makes the choice

1100
00:38:08,674 --> 00:38:09,255
for them.

1101
00:38:09,954 --> 00:38:12,355
I think my my guess is that it

1102
00:38:12,355 --> 00:38:13,574
has to do with

1103
00:38:14,194 --> 00:38:16,275
which one with which side is going to

1104
00:38:16,275 --> 00:38:18,739
produce more sperm. And it probably makes it

1105
00:38:18,739 --> 00:38:20,820
so that in the wild, they can breed

1106
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:23,000
with multiple females back to back.

1107
00:38:23,699 --> 00:38:24,199
If

1108
00:38:24,739 --> 00:38:26,519
you got 2, if you got 2 sets,

1109
00:38:27,059 --> 00:38:29,059
you know, you use one up and then

1110
00:38:29,059 --> 00:38:30,500
you're done for a while on that one,

1111
00:38:30,500 --> 00:38:32,114
but you got another one ready to go.

1112
00:38:32,195 --> 00:38:33,875
Sounds like an insult, but I guess that's

1113
00:38:33,875 --> 00:38:35,574
a compliment. You hemmy penis.

1114
00:38:37,554 --> 00:38:38,375
Yeah. Right.

1115
00:38:38,835 --> 00:38:40,914
Actually, there have been humans born with 2

1116
00:38:40,914 --> 00:38:43,795
penis. I've seen that. Now I've don't Google

1117
00:38:43,795 --> 00:38:45,715
it unless you're really ready for it. But

1118
00:38:45,715 --> 00:38:47,690
you've spent some time Googling it. So you

1119
00:38:47,849 --> 00:38:50,170
I did because I was curious. You know

1120
00:38:50,170 --> 00:38:52,490
me. I'll look anything up. Yeah. Yeah. Well,

1121
00:38:52,490 --> 00:38:54,430
not anything, but most things. Yeah.

1122
00:38:54,730 --> 00:38:56,730
Well, let's, when we're done with this, let's

1123
00:38:56,730 --> 00:38:57,849
make a list of things that we can

1124
00:38:57,849 --> 00:38:58,590
look up.

1125
00:38:58,890 --> 00:39:00,190
Okay. Good. Good idea.

1126
00:39:01,155 --> 00:39:03,155
You still haven't mentioned the name of your

1127
00:39:03,155 --> 00:39:05,655
YouTube by the way. Green Room Pythons

1128
00:39:06,035 --> 00:39:08,675
is the YouTube channel. With the coolest logo

1129
00:39:08,675 --> 00:39:10,675
because you're also a musician and you teach

1130
00:39:10,675 --> 00:39:12,594
music. You're also a member of Men's Eye.

1131
00:39:12,594 --> 00:39:15,059
You're like a well rounded Thanks. Yeah. I

1132
00:39:15,059 --> 00:39:17,619
don't really teach music anymore, but but I

1133
00:39:17,619 --> 00:39:19,619
do I do play music. And I've got

1134
00:39:19,619 --> 00:39:22,200
a good friend, Mark Jackson, who who

1135
00:39:22,579 --> 00:39:25,059
does has done, like, campaigns for movies and

1136
00:39:25,059 --> 00:39:27,940
things like that. Creates the the campaign for

1137
00:39:27,940 --> 00:39:28,519
a movie.

1138
00:39:28,864 --> 00:39:30,545
And I just asked him when I started

1139
00:39:30,545 --> 00:39:31,905
this, I was like, hey. What's the best

1140
00:39:31,905 --> 00:39:33,664
website where I can just put together a

1141
00:39:33,664 --> 00:39:35,424
logo myself? And he goes, oh, I'll do

1142
00:39:35,424 --> 00:39:36,164
it for you.

1143
00:39:36,704 --> 00:39:39,125
So he's the one that created my logo

1144
00:39:39,344 --> 00:39:40,944
and That's beautiful. He made it. I didn't

1145
00:39:40,944 --> 00:39:42,224
even ask him to do this, but he

1146
00:39:42,224 --> 00:39:43,824
made the snake head in the shape of

1147
00:39:43,824 --> 00:39:46,599
a guitar also. And some people notice it

1148
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:48,760
and and I think most people don't, but,

1149
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,119
I think it's interesting. It's cool. Oh, yeah.

1150
00:39:51,119 --> 00:39:53,000
I love it. It's so well done. This

1151
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,079
is very, very cool. Well, what happens next

1152
00:39:55,079 --> 00:39:57,179
with what's on the agenda coming up?

1153
00:39:57,594 --> 00:39:59,675
So on the agenda coming up, I have

1154
00:39:59,835 --> 00:40:01,434
well, I have a festival that I'm that

1155
00:40:01,434 --> 00:40:03,994
I'm performing at, that has nothing to do

1156
00:40:03,994 --> 00:40:06,474
with snakes in a couple weeks. But then

1157
00:40:06,474 --> 00:40:08,155
I do I go and do a fan

1158
00:40:08,155 --> 00:40:10,175
meet and greet event in

1159
00:40:10,630 --> 00:40:11,769
Salt Lake City, Utah.

1160
00:40:12,150 --> 00:40:14,409
And then I'm doing Animal Con, which

1161
00:40:14,869 --> 00:40:16,949
is like Comic Con, but it's for people

1162
00:40:16,949 --> 00:40:17,769
who who,

1163
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:21,109
wanna meet animal content creators. So I'm going

1164
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:23,429
You need an assistant? Can I go? Yeah.

1165
00:40:23,429 --> 00:40:25,545
You can come. You can come. It's in

1166
00:40:25,545 --> 00:40:27,849
Orlando, Florida. You wanna come to Orlando? I

1167
00:40:27,849 --> 00:40:30,442
don't like humidity, but yeah. Yeah. It's it's

1168
00:40:30,442 --> 00:40:32,746
gonna be super fun. That's a 4 day

1169
00:40:32,746 --> 00:40:35,051
event. I'm I'm doing these back to back.

1170
00:40:35,051 --> 00:40:37,679
I'm I'm doing Salt Lake City and then

1171
00:40:38,460 --> 00:40:41,340
Animal Con. Yeah. So end of September is

1172
00:40:41,340 --> 00:40:43,199
Salt Lake City, the 1st weekend

1173
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,320
of October is Animal Con,

1174
00:40:47,500 --> 00:40:50,159
and then I'm supposed to be in Chicago

1175
00:40:50,300 --> 00:40:51,900
for a reptile show, but I don't think

1176
00:40:51,900 --> 00:40:53,634
I'm going to that. So I think it's

1177
00:40:53,634 --> 00:40:55,554
just those things. And then I'm planning another

1178
00:40:55,554 --> 00:40:56,534
trip to Suriname

1179
00:40:57,554 --> 00:40:58,534
just for

1180
00:40:58,835 --> 00:41:00,755
some of my Patreon supporters. I've got a

1181
00:41:00,755 --> 00:41:02,674
small handful of Patreon supporters that wanna come

1182
00:41:02,674 --> 00:41:05,094
with me to Suriname to do that trip.

1183
00:41:05,610 --> 00:41:07,690
And so we're kind of in the beginning

1184
00:41:07,690 --> 00:41:09,470
stages of planning that for 2025.

1185
00:41:10,730 --> 00:41:12,170
I love it. How many vaccines did you

1186
00:41:12,170 --> 00:41:13,450
have to get to go over there? I

1187
00:41:13,450 --> 00:41:14,510
bet there was a lot.

1188
00:41:15,050 --> 00:41:16,430
I think I got 6,

1189
00:41:16,730 --> 00:41:18,490
if I remember right. Yeah. Yeah. And they're

1190
00:41:18,490 --> 00:41:19,930
not cheap. They're like, one of them was,

1191
00:41:19,930 --> 00:41:20,590
like, $500

1192
00:41:21,905 --> 00:41:24,038
to get Holy moly. The jab. Yeah. And

1193
00:41:24,038 --> 00:41:25,925
I'm I'm planning a trip, to

1194
00:41:26,465 --> 00:41:26,965
Malaysia,

1195
00:41:27,505 --> 00:41:29,204
and I'm gonna have to get more vaccines

1196
00:41:29,264 --> 00:41:31,425
from Malaysia. They just you know, there's different

1197
00:41:31,425 --> 00:41:33,525
vaccines for every place you go and

1198
00:41:33,824 --> 00:41:35,204
For sure. For sure.

1199
00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:37,840
So exciting. Alright. Where can people find you

1200
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,320
besides your YouTube channel? I mean, the YouTube

1201
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,340
channel, the greener pythons on,

1202
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:43,860
Instagram,

1203
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,099
TikTok TikTok?

1204
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,514
YouTube. YouTube is the main, you know, is

1205
00:41:49,514 --> 00:41:51,275
the main content, but I've got short stuff

1206
00:41:51,275 --> 00:41:52,014
on the others.

1207
00:41:52,714 --> 00:41:55,514
Yeah. I love it. You're the best. Love

1208
00:41:55,514 --> 00:41:57,114
you so much. You're the best. I'm so

1209
00:41:57,114 --> 00:41:57,614
excited.

1210
00:41:58,074 --> 00:42:00,734
You're doing so much fun things. Aw, thanks.

1211
00:42:00,795 --> 00:42:02,909
Yeah. I really dig it. Thank you for

1212
00:42:02,909 --> 00:42:05,230
listening everybody, and if you have any questions

1213
00:42:05,230 --> 00:42:05,730
about

1214
00:42:06,109 --> 00:42:06,609
snakes,

1215
00:42:07,150 --> 00:42:08,829
you gotta reach out to Bob. He's the

1216
00:42:08,829 --> 00:42:10,750
best. Thanks for having me, Susan. This is

1217
00:42:10,750 --> 00:42:11,730
fun. Absolutely.

1218
00:42:12,030 --> 00:42:12,929
Bye, everybody.

1219
00:42:13,230 --> 00:42:15,650
Bye. Bye, honey. I'll see you. Bye.

1220
00:42:18,574 --> 00:42:20,974
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1221
00:42:20,974 --> 00:42:23,554
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1222
00:42:24,014 --> 00:42:26,755
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1223
00:42:26,815 --> 00:42:27,315
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1224
00:42:27,775 --> 00:42:28,275
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