1 00:00:08,124 --> 00:00:10,601 Hey, humans. How's it going. Susan Ruth here. 2 00:00:10,841 --> 00:00:14,197 Thanks listening to another episode of hey, human 3 00:00:14,197 --> 00:00:14,697 podcast. 4 00:00:16,447 --> 00:00:19,387 Happy birthday a human on July sixteenth. 5 00:00:19,943 --> 00:00:21,612 Thank you for being a part of this 6 00:00:21,612 --> 00:00:24,814 extraordinary journey that has flown by and 7 00:00:25,124 --> 00:00:27,269 Thank you to the absolutely incredible guests who 8 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:28,063 have been on the show. 9 00:00:28,778 --> 00:00:31,082 Here we are at episode 415, 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:32,988 and my guest is George Tomb. 11 00:00:34,038 --> 00:00:37,710 George is a Lebanon born, award winning composer 12 00:00:37,710 --> 00:00:38,668 and concert Pianist. 13 00:00:39,226 --> 00:00:40,285 Gi wrote his first 14 00:00:40,663 --> 00:00:42,155 composition at 3 years old 15 00:00:42,514 --> 00:00:44,671 He was raised in a deeply musical family, 16 00:00:44,991 --> 00:00:46,509 and it set the stage, 17 00:00:47,069 --> 00:00:51,100 no pun intended for a meteor rise to 18 00:00:51,480 --> 00:00:52,280 international start. 19 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:55,159 He's also using his talents for a deep 20 00:00:55,159 --> 00:00:56,780 purpose and has gifted various 21 00:00:57,159 --> 00:00:59,399 compositions to philanthropic events worldwide, 22 00:01:00,134 --> 00:01:02,532 he's the kind man. He... It was really 23 00:01:02,532 --> 00:01:04,370 lovely to talk with him just a a 24 00:01:04,370 --> 00:01:07,487 real bright light, and there's no doubt that 25 00:01:07,487 --> 00:01:09,345 he will be a household name 26 00:01:10,217 --> 00:01:13,004 around the world in no time. Really, really 27 00:01:13,004 --> 00:01:14,198 a fun conversation. 28 00:01:15,074 --> 00:01:18,021 General stuff, I'm on Patreon at, Susan Ruth, 29 00:01:18,514 --> 00:01:20,991 You can check out hey human podcast dot 30 00:01:20,991 --> 00:01:22,589 com for links and to learn more about 31 00:01:22,589 --> 00:01:25,145 my guests in the show. Check out Susan 32 00:01:25,145 --> 00:01:26,912 ruth dot com to learn more about me 33 00:01:26,912 --> 00:01:28,424 and my other artistic endeavors, 34 00:01:29,061 --> 00:01:31,926 follow Susan Ruth and hey, human podcast on 35 00:01:31,926 --> 00:01:32,562 social media, 36 00:01:33,214 --> 00:01:35,758 find my albums. I to him a musician 37 00:01:35,758 --> 00:01:35,997 though. 38 00:01:36,633 --> 00:01:39,575 Not even close to George. But, you know, 39 00:01:39,813 --> 00:01:41,738 I do my best to keep up. And 40 00:01:41,738 --> 00:01:43,732 you can find my music on Spotify, Apple 41 00:01:43,891 --> 00:01:46,124 Music, Amazon Music, wherever you get your music, 42 00:01:46,603 --> 00:01:49,575 rate review and subscribe to hey, Human podcast 43 00:01:49,634 --> 00:01:52,356 on itunes or wherever you get your podcast. 44 00:01:52,833 --> 00:01:55,297 Thank you again for 8 years and counting, 45 00:01:55,853 --> 00:01:58,238 be well, be kind, be beloved. 46 00:01:58,874 --> 00:01:59,510 Here we go. 47 00:02:02,156 --> 00:02:04,790 George Too welcome to, hay, human. Thank you, 48 00:02:05,029 --> 00:02:07,424 Susan. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Lovely 49 00:02:07,424 --> 00:02:09,020 to have you all the way from Paris. 50 00:02:09,434 --> 00:02:12,219 Are you jet setting these days going everywhere? 51 00:02:13,333 --> 00:02:14,924 Actually, I was in new York 2 weeks 52 00:02:14,924 --> 00:02:16,834 ago, And, yeah, it always takes me, like, 53 00:02:17,152 --> 00:02:18,448 3 to 4 days to 54 00:02:19,235 --> 00:02:20,586 to, you know, get rid of the jet 55 00:02:20,586 --> 00:02:20,825 lags. 56 00:02:21,460 --> 00:02:23,391 I read some places if you wear sunglasses, 57 00:02:24,003 --> 00:02:25,695 the whole day after 58 00:02:26,324 --> 00:02:28,801 you arrive and when you're jet lagging that 59 00:02:28,801 --> 00:02:30,319 it helps. But then, of course, it makes 60 00:02:30,319 --> 00:02:31,917 you look like Ad edema. But I think 61 00:02:31,917 --> 00:02:33,515 it's supposed to help because it tricks your 62 00:02:33,515 --> 00:02:34,015 breath 63 00:02:34,328 --> 00:02:36,474 Oh, yeah. I've ever I've never ever tried 64 00:02:36,474 --> 00:02:38,699 that. I mean, I'm I would love to 65 00:02:38,699 --> 00:02:41,481 try. I use Mel a lot to try 66 00:02:41,481 --> 00:02:42,061 to regulate, 67 00:02:42,594 --> 00:02:44,119 my speed. Does it help? 68 00:02:45,232 --> 00:02:45,710 It helps. 69 00:02:46,425 --> 00:02:48,413 Yeah. That helps Yeah. But I think it 70 00:02:48,413 --> 00:02:49,923 always takes, like, 2 to 3 days to 71 00:02:49,923 --> 00:02:52,150 just, you know, get used to the new 72 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:52,547 time zone. 73 00:02:53,358 --> 00:02:55,985 When you're dreaming, do you dream with a 74 00:02:55,985 --> 00:02:56,485 musical 75 00:02:56,941 --> 00:02:57,441 background? 76 00:02:58,454 --> 00:02:59,966 I mean, that's why I have lack of 77 00:02:59,966 --> 00:03:01,183 sleep whether they 78 00:03:01,971 --> 00:03:03,402 jet lag or not. I have, like, a 79 00:03:03,402 --> 00:03:04,992 sleep because music doesn't stop. You know what 80 00:03:05,151 --> 00:03:07,933 I mean? So music always hits my head. 81 00:03:08,172 --> 00:03:09,126 Even when I'm sleeping. 82 00:03:09,697 --> 00:03:11,603 Although I suppose you can wake up from 83 00:03:11,603 --> 00:03:14,304 a dream and have an entire thing composed 84 00:03:14,304 --> 00:03:16,290 and... Yeah. Like, for example, I'm going a 85 00:03:16,290 --> 00:03:17,879 movie that I need to deliver in 2 86 00:03:17,879 --> 00:03:19,014 weeks, which is Bug 87 00:03:19,482 --> 00:03:22,730 I'll bar it later on. But, like, you 88 00:03:22,730 --> 00:03:24,632 know, I get bad, and I was like, 89 00:03:24,711 --> 00:03:26,789 oh, I forgot to add this idea I 90 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:28,067 go back to writing, then I go back 91 00:03:28,067 --> 00:03:29,585 to bed I was, oh. This is a 92 00:03:29,585 --> 00:03:30,085 nice 93 00:03:30,464 --> 00:03:31,982 musical line, and I go back to, you 94 00:03:31,982 --> 00:03:33,041 know. So it's just 95 00:03:33,674 --> 00:03:35,108 When when I have a good la, I 96 00:03:35,108 --> 00:03:36,623 always have a lack of sleep because the 97 00:03:36,623 --> 00:03:39,173 best idea is always hit my head last 98 00:03:39,173 --> 00:03:41,028 second. I'm quite Ami a. 99 00:03:41,738 --> 00:03:43,645 Me too. I get that. I also think 100 00:03:43,645 --> 00:03:46,663 that the more tired you get the less 101 00:03:46,663 --> 00:03:49,705 chance, your active brain can regulate 102 00:03:50,253 --> 00:03:51,924 and step in and then say, oh, no. 103 00:03:52,084 --> 00:03:54,312 That's not good or the the j part 104 00:03:54,312 --> 00:03:57,336 of our brain goes away. Exactly. Because we're 105 00:03:57,336 --> 00:03:59,263 so tired. We don't have the wherewithal with 106 00:03:59,263 --> 00:04:02,791 the B. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Well, let's get 107 00:04:02,849 --> 00:04:03,349 into 108 00:04:03,885 --> 00:04:06,694 you. I start these all the time with 109 00:04:06,694 --> 00:04:09,094 the same thing, I wanna know where you 110 00:04:09,094 --> 00:04:12,055 were raised and what shaped you to to 111 00:04:12,055 --> 00:04:13,254 the human you are now. 112 00:04:14,788 --> 00:04:16,946 I was raised in Beirut Lebanon. I come 113 00:04:16,946 --> 00:04:20,223 from a family of well established artists, including 114 00:04:20,223 --> 00:04:22,700 my father, and my grandfather, my grandmother, 115 00:04:23,274 --> 00:04:25,033 and my own tease. My dad is a 116 00:04:25,033 --> 00:04:27,670 composer in Kenneth himself, and he taught me 117 00:04:27,670 --> 00:04:30,307 music. He taught me how to play Piano 118 00:04:30,307 --> 00:04:31,905 how to write music. He was my first 119 00:04:31,905 --> 00:04:32,625 musical feature. 120 00:04:33,599 --> 00:04:35,138 So growing up in Lebanon 121 00:04:36,556 --> 00:04:38,793 was a great child me. And then after 122 00:04:38,793 --> 00:04:41,191 that, I I left to Europe, and I 123 00:04:41,191 --> 00:04:41,990 studied music there. 124 00:04:42,642 --> 00:04:45,420 Vienna with Conrad And Christopher young. Then after 125 00:04:45,420 --> 00:04:47,269 that, I went to La and I started 126 00:04:47,324 --> 00:04:49,650 discovering this with a movie 127 00:04:50,356 --> 00:04:52,423 movies and cinema and how to write music 128 00:04:52,423 --> 00:04:55,205 for movies was always my dream. Then I 129 00:04:55,205 --> 00:04:56,716 went back to Europe and I started writing 130 00:04:56,716 --> 00:04:57,511 music for Bali. 131 00:04:58,242 --> 00:05:00,632 And since then, I'm just traveling the word 132 00:05:00,632 --> 00:05:03,738 driving music for different genres Different projects. Do 133 00:05:03,738 --> 00:05:06,287 you feel, you love what you do, which 134 00:05:06,287 --> 00:05:07,897 is great. But as a kid, 135 00:05:08,536 --> 00:05:11,169 it it requires so many hours of practice 136 00:05:11,169 --> 00:05:13,244 to get to the level that you have 137 00:05:13,244 --> 00:05:13,744 now 138 00:05:14,521 --> 00:05:15,021 achieved 139 00:05:15,573 --> 00:05:17,566 and I'm sure, you know, you keep improving 140 00:05:17,566 --> 00:05:19,240 all the time. That's just the nature of 141 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,471 the beast. But when you're a little kid, 142 00:05:21,790 --> 00:05:24,036 did you feel at all like, Eye on 143 00:05:24,036 --> 00:05:25,786 it Practice today. I just wanna go be 144 00:05:25,786 --> 00:05:28,092 a kid. I hated it Susan. Like, my 145 00:05:28,092 --> 00:05:29,842 mom used to force me every day. No. 146 00:05:30,573 --> 00:05:32,085 Did only an hour today, you have to 147 00:05:32,085 --> 00:05:33,596 do 3. I was like, I'm bored like, 148 00:05:33,755 --> 00:05:36,005 you know, I used to hate classical piano 149 00:05:36,142 --> 00:05:36,937 when it's forced. 150 00:05:37,509 --> 00:05:38,939 And I used to miss it when it's 151 00:05:38,939 --> 00:05:40,392 not forced, but 152 00:05:40,846 --> 00:05:43,491 I am very grateful to what my family 153 00:05:44,421 --> 00:05:46,344 obliged me to do because, you know, And 154 00:05:46,344 --> 00:05:48,575 now I understand the value of that because 155 00:05:48,575 --> 00:05:50,886 all these time on the piano, 156 00:05:51,524 --> 00:05:53,060 rehearsing and practicing 157 00:05:53,436 --> 00:05:53,936 day 158 00:05:54,488 --> 00:05:56,321 I know they're value today... Even now I 159 00:05:56,321 --> 00:05:58,336 practice every day just to keep the technique 160 00:05:58,474 --> 00:06:00,228 that I have because I'm composing, but at 161 00:06:00,228 --> 00:06:01,503 the same time I'm playing with the orchestra, 162 00:06:01,662 --> 00:06:04,314 So I have to to maintain a certain 163 00:06:04,314 --> 00:06:04,975 level of 164 00:06:05,595 --> 00:06:06,955 technique on the piano. 165 00:06:07,435 --> 00:06:09,194 Isn't there that famous saying, I don't know 166 00:06:09,194 --> 00:06:11,935 if it was y on. Somebody said, if 167 00:06:12,248 --> 00:06:14,550 If I don't practice for a day, no 168 00:06:14,550 --> 00:06:16,535 1 notices. But I don't practice for 2 169 00:06:16,535 --> 00:06:18,917 days, my wife notices. If I don't practice 170 00:06:18,917 --> 00:06:20,663 for 3 days, the world notices. 171 00:06:21,792 --> 00:06:23,784 I think that's your your mother Cha. Maybe 172 00:06:23,784 --> 00:06:24,421 yeah. Yeah. 173 00:06:25,138 --> 00:06:27,688 That's a great thing. Yeah. Yeah. I mean 174 00:06:27,688 --> 00:06:28,246 it makes sense. 175 00:06:28,899 --> 00:06:30,893 Absolutely. It makes a lot of sense. I 176 00:06:30,893 --> 00:06:33,526 mean, yeah. As a pianist, my fingers are... 177 00:06:33,925 --> 00:06:35,462 I mean, they can 178 00:06:36,492 --> 00:06:37,866 cheat on me. Any 179 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,832 any day, if I stop practicing. Of course. 180 00:06:39,991 --> 00:06:41,582 That's why Piano for me is, like, drinking 181 00:06:41,582 --> 00:06:43,093 water every day. I have to I have 182 00:06:43,093 --> 00:06:44,286 to visit the piano every day. 183 00:06:45,174 --> 00:06:47,553 Every... I mean, everywhere, Anywhere I am I 184 00:06:47,553 --> 00:06:49,853 have a piano. Yeah. Whether it's in hotel 185 00:06:49,853 --> 00:06:51,201 whether I rent an apartment with the piano, 186 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:52,232 whether it's at home, 187 00:06:52,724 --> 00:06:56,551 South France, Beirut, La, New York. Anytime, anywhere, 188 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:58,704 I need the piano, has to be 1. 189 00:06:59,103 --> 00:07:00,937 Anytime I need the piano. It has... I 190 00:07:00,937 --> 00:07:02,469 have to have 1 I mean, at nice, 191 00:07:02,708 --> 00:07:04,966 I have a piano. I used the electric 192 00:07:05,025 --> 00:07:07,582 because you know, when I had headphones, so 193 00:07:07,661 --> 00:07:08,860 I don't bother people on neighbors. 194 00:07:09,912 --> 00:07:12,465 Yeah. I mean, of all the instruments to 195 00:07:12,465 --> 00:07:14,699 take when you're a traveling musician, the Piano 196 00:07:14,699 --> 00:07:15,338 is the most. 197 00:07:15,896 --> 00:07:16,375 Not the bread. 198 00:07:17,189 --> 00:07:17,589 Exactly. 199 00:07:18,629 --> 00:07:20,389 The most awkward 1 you could have ever 200 00:07:20,389 --> 00:07:21,670 picked. Why not the violin? 201 00:07:22,310 --> 00:07:22,470 Yeah. 202 00:07:23,270 --> 00:07:25,602 I mean, violin also. It's easy to play, 203 00:07:25,761 --> 00:07:27,995 But, I mean, it's also knowing at night. 204 00:07:28,554 --> 00:07:30,548 Oh, I guess that's true. Especially, if you're 205 00:07:30,548 --> 00:07:32,635 not great at it, tell me... As a 206 00:07:32,635 --> 00:07:35,653 kid as you were learning your craft and 207 00:07:35,653 --> 00:07:38,354 and developing your artist tree. Did you start 208 00:07:38,354 --> 00:07:39,704 see music everywhere? 209 00:07:40,593 --> 00:07:42,842 You know, the the movement of the trees 210 00:07:42,978 --> 00:07:44,728 and the kids playing, you grew up in 211 00:07:44,728 --> 00:07:45,785 a place that 212 00:07:46,636 --> 00:07:48,624 there's a lot of intense things happening for 213 00:07:48,624 --> 00:07:49,658 a child to witness. 214 00:07:50,628 --> 00:07:53,180 How did that all interplay with itself? Like, 215 00:07:53,339 --> 00:07:54,774 I didn't really need to leave the house 216 00:07:54,774 --> 00:07:56,927 to to feel the music? Because I, you 217 00:07:56,927 --> 00:07:58,862 know, my my dad is playing music 218 00:07:59,414 --> 00:08:01,334 all day long. My auntie are visiting us 219 00:08:01,334 --> 00:08:03,894 singing with my dad. He composed their albums. 220 00:08:04,055 --> 00:08:05,435 My sister's sing 221 00:08:06,055 --> 00:08:07,149 all day long, so 222 00:08:08,069 --> 00:08:10,550 my home in Lebanon was purely musical, You 223 00:08:10,550 --> 00:08:11,669 know, an art, 224 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:14,870 all over the place because my my grandfather 225 00:08:14,870 --> 00:08:15,430 he's a painter. 226 00:08:16,161 --> 00:08:17,988 And my grandma is a singer. So anywhere 227 00:08:18,147 --> 00:08:20,236 I am, and I I had 2 twice 228 00:08:20,292 --> 00:08:21,563 a week classes as, you know, 229 00:08:22,755 --> 00:08:23,867 the musical theory, 230 00:08:24,439 --> 00:08:24,939 harmony, 231 00:08:26,194 --> 00:08:28,586 composition, piano. The music was always always there. 232 00:08:28,905 --> 00:08:31,298 So imagine leaving a piano class and Tc 233 00:08:31,298 --> 00:08:32,814 ups skis in my head. I'm working Tc 234 00:08:32,814 --> 00:08:33,930 up the music is it's still in my 235 00:08:33,930 --> 00:08:34,010 head. 236 00:08:34,744 --> 00:08:36,741 And, yeah, obviously, the sing you Ron is 237 00:08:36,741 --> 00:08:38,818 old music. I, that's how I get inspired. 238 00:08:39,218 --> 00:08:41,750 Was it hard to find your own voice 239 00:08:42,029 --> 00:08:44,529 amongst all these other artists in your family 240 00:08:44,590 --> 00:08:47,070 to stand out and to be yourself? No. 241 00:08:47,470 --> 00:08:49,389 Actually, I was very supported by my family. 242 00:08:49,963 --> 00:08:52,375 It wasn't easy for me to to 243 00:08:53,308 --> 00:08:54,286 open doors 244 00:08:54,901 --> 00:08:56,893 abroad. It wasn't easy, but at the same 245 00:08:56,893 --> 00:08:58,747 time, it was easy. So 246 00:08:59,058 --> 00:09:01,472 the beginning was slow, but then 247 00:09:02,486 --> 00:09:04,718 I felt like my career took out, officially 248 00:09:04,718 --> 00:09:07,604 in Europe after my first concert and Italy, 249 00:09:07,844 --> 00:09:10,560 the of Ramon, Catalina And the San was. 250 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:13,218 After these 2 concerts, I felt Mike career 251 00:09:13,597 --> 00:09:14,635 took off officially. 252 00:09:15,528 --> 00:09:17,063 And it, you know, it gets 253 00:09:17,438 --> 00:09:19,030 harder, But at the same time it gets 254 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:19,530 easier 255 00:09:19,905 --> 00:09:22,053 when it comes to other conductors hearing about 256 00:09:22,053 --> 00:09:24,122 your work, other fan directors doing about your 257 00:09:24,122 --> 00:09:24,281 work. 258 00:09:25,014 --> 00:09:26,928 So it's just, you know, it's like a 259 00:09:26,928 --> 00:09:28,545 snowball that is just 260 00:09:29,242 --> 00:09:31,475 it keeps growing while going, you know, the 261 00:09:31,475 --> 00:09:35,019 road. I've always wondered this with composer and 262 00:09:36,431 --> 00:09:38,206 and the sin. 263 00:09:39,474 --> 00:09:42,029 How how is that interplay working for a 264 00:09:42,029 --> 00:09:43,226 lay like myself? 265 00:09:44,025 --> 00:09:46,979 I don't really understand the connection? Maybe the 266 00:09:46,979 --> 00:09:49,029 the woven connection between each 267 00:09:49,467 --> 00:09:51,934 instrument and each player and the composer. What 268 00:09:51,934 --> 00:09:54,401 is that relationship? I think you're talking about 269 00:09:54,401 --> 00:09:57,584 the conductor, probably. No? I meant... Yeah. Conductor 270 00:09:57,584 --> 00:09:59,914 not composer, think in my mind. I'm featuring 271 00:09:59,914 --> 00:10:02,794 mo art conducting, thinking... Oh, yeah. The professor 272 00:10:02,794 --> 00:10:05,195 and the conductor. Oh, mo side. I mean, 273 00:10:05,434 --> 00:10:06,954 I can't conduct, but I don't... I mean, 274 00:10:07,115 --> 00:10:07,195 I... 275 00:10:08,087 --> 00:10:09,523 I don't have this passion to do it. 276 00:10:09,842 --> 00:10:12,176 I prefer playing, or I prefer you just 277 00:10:12,235 --> 00:10:12,793 prefer just, like, 278 00:10:13,750 --> 00:10:14,250 watching 279 00:10:14,627 --> 00:10:15,983 the orchestra of playing my music. 280 00:10:17,989 --> 00:10:20,318 So the conductor follows what the composer 281 00:10:20,772 --> 00:10:21,272 wrote 282 00:10:21,725 --> 00:10:24,110 underscore. The composer can conduct a fee if 283 00:10:24,110 --> 00:10:26,432 he's a conductor of or he has this 284 00:10:26,432 --> 00:10:28,420 discussion to do it. But, I mean, the 285 00:10:28,420 --> 00:10:30,988 conductor more give the speed for the orchestra, 286 00:10:31,363 --> 00:10:31,863 the 287 00:10:32,253 --> 00:10:35,354 forte t piano, play loud, they quiet... 288 00:10:36,149 --> 00:10:38,636 His role is very important to to transmit 289 00:10:38,931 --> 00:10:41,021 the message that the composer wrote on a 290 00:10:41,077 --> 00:10:43,807 score. To the Orchestra and the audience is 291 00:10:43,807 --> 00:10:46,284 not easy. He gives he gives the character 292 00:10:46,284 --> 00:10:48,861 of the peace. And sometimes the conduct 293 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:49,900 improve 294 00:10:50,293 --> 00:10:53,739 the whatever is written on paper and a 295 00:10:53,796 --> 00:10:55,707 and his style in his on style. I 296 00:10:55,707 --> 00:10:57,219 mean, in my in my case, 297 00:10:58,667 --> 00:11:00,736 I play mostly the Piano. I am the 298 00:11:00,736 --> 00:11:03,044 least or Solo Pianist the... In the Orchestra, 299 00:11:03,203 --> 00:11:05,671 and I play the, with the Orchestra. Sometimes 300 00:11:05,750 --> 00:11:08,231 I give the piano main role, in the 301 00:11:08,231 --> 00:11:10,214 piece. Sometimes I don't give the Piano anything. 302 00:11:11,086 --> 00:11:13,387 Oh, it all depends on whatever I'm hearing. 303 00:11:13,704 --> 00:11:14,759 But the conductor 304 00:11:15,449 --> 00:11:18,174 job is important in at piece in cash 305 00:11:18,174 --> 00:11:21,048 flow piece. When did you know yourself that 306 00:11:21,048 --> 00:11:24,421 you were special that you had something beyond 307 00:11:24,814 --> 00:11:26,250 I know that's a weird question to ask. 308 00:11:26,489 --> 00:11:28,323 It's it's for ego and all that. But 309 00:11:28,323 --> 00:11:30,716 you understand what I'm saying. Yeah Yeah. I 310 00:11:30,716 --> 00:11:32,630 think for an artist, there's a time in 311 00:11:32,630 --> 00:11:33,907 your life when you say, 312 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:35,839 Oh, wow. I'm different. 313 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,600 I think when my... 314 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:41,600 When the conductor starting asking me for commissioned 315 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,620 work with a class orchestra. 316 00:11:45,125 --> 00:11:47,106 In many countries. I thought, okay. 317 00:11:47,898 --> 00:11:50,062 There's something different there. There's something 318 00:11:51,796 --> 00:11:54,651 probably good that people are liking or these 319 00:11:54,651 --> 00:11:56,317 conductors are they're liking. 320 00:11:56,872 --> 00:11:58,776 But what's nice about this industry. The more 321 00:11:58,776 --> 00:12:00,781 you learn as I I had an interview 322 00:12:00,781 --> 00:12:01,978 last night, and I mentioned that, 323 00:12:02,696 --> 00:12:04,952 the more you learn music, the more 324 00:12:05,888 --> 00:12:08,616 you... The more I like, literally, I I 325 00:12:08,616 --> 00:12:11,171 studied beethoven scores and mo are. I kid 326 00:12:11,171 --> 00:12:11,671 very 327 00:12:12,368 --> 00:12:14,443 negligible, You know, and I like that because 328 00:12:14,443 --> 00:12:15,662 this this thing 329 00:12:16,293 --> 00:12:18,065 this process makes you feel 330 00:12:18,678 --> 00:12:20,587 humble, You know? And then it makes you 331 00:12:20,587 --> 00:12:23,131 always look forward to learning more. The music 332 00:12:23,131 --> 00:12:24,642 is a know is a is a huge 333 00:12:24,642 --> 00:12:26,960 ocean. As I mentioned, last night. And I 334 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:28,863 always wanna feed that way to just keep 335 00:12:28,863 --> 00:12:30,077 a grounded and 336 00:12:30,450 --> 00:12:30,950 and 337 00:12:31,957 --> 00:12:34,273 ready to learn more. Because, you know, It's 338 00:12:34,273 --> 00:12:35,866 not it's not an industry way where you 339 00:12:35,866 --> 00:12:37,936 know everything, and you can reach a point 340 00:12:37,936 --> 00:12:39,449 where you can say, yeah. I know everything 341 00:12:39,449 --> 00:12:41,520 about music. No. We'll never know anything about 342 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:43,129 music. You know what I mean? You know 343 00:12:43,208 --> 00:12:44,965 I know everything about meetings. If you always 344 00:12:44,965 --> 00:12:47,040 be that student that is learning and learning 345 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:47,280 member. 346 00:12:48,477 --> 00:12:50,733 Yeah. I suppose if you reach a moment 347 00:12:50,792 --> 00:12:53,044 where you feel you've figured it all out. 348 00:12:53,284 --> 00:12:55,605 It will lose all joy. 349 00:12:56,404 --> 00:12:58,424 Exactly. You have nothing to 350 00:12:58,964 --> 00:12:59,924 to look forward to. 351 00:13:00,658 --> 00:13:01,557 And to learn 352 00:13:02,491 --> 00:13:05,280 to improve your music and to to influence 353 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:06,714 people more because if all your music is 354 00:13:06,714 --> 00:13:07,932 the same level same 355 00:13:08,403 --> 00:13:09,301 effect. So 356 00:13:09,758 --> 00:13:10,576 there's no 357 00:13:11,351 --> 00:13:14,221 there's no future. 3 days Piano now playing 358 00:13:14,221 --> 00:13:14,619 somewhere. 359 00:13:15,097 --> 00:13:15,336 Yeah. 360 00:13:16,147 --> 00:13:18,078 So as music continues to 361 00:13:18,453 --> 00:13:19,963 inspire and surprise you, 362 00:13:20,599 --> 00:13:22,904 how does that reflect back on yourself. What 363 00:13:22,904 --> 00:13:24,812 are you surprised about yourself? 364 00:13:25,544 --> 00:13:26,660 As you keep going. 365 00:13:27,219 --> 00:13:29,532 I think because I study music, a lot 366 00:13:29,532 --> 00:13:31,924 of other classical composer, and I learn different 367 00:13:31,924 --> 00:13:33,679 techniques, and III 368 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,716 photo my inspiration, 369 00:13:35,369 --> 00:13:38,073 and my vision in writing music, and I 370 00:13:38,073 --> 00:13:38,892 get some 371 00:13:39,585 --> 00:13:41,573 inspiration of orchestration about these composer. 372 00:13:42,464 --> 00:13:43,901 Every time I have a recording with the 373 00:13:43,981 --> 00:13:45,657 Orc... Whether your Office or whatever whether whether 374 00:13:45,657 --> 00:13:48,291 it's bud past London, let's say, that I 375 00:13:48,291 --> 00:13:49,031 will have 376 00:13:49,489 --> 00:13:50,606 suing a collaboration with. 377 00:13:51,499 --> 00:13:54,053 So in every recording, I learned that, okay, 378 00:13:54,531 --> 00:13:57,803 I improved on the cello section. I improved 379 00:13:57,803 --> 00:13:58,601 on the strength. 380 00:13:59,174 --> 00:14:01,274 Okay. No. The brass section, I should have 381 00:14:01,335 --> 00:14:04,054 maybe within something better here you. So every 382 00:14:04,054 --> 00:14:05,894 time I have a recording session with the 383 00:14:05,975 --> 00:14:06,475 Orchestra. 384 00:14:07,095 --> 00:14:07,815 I learned something. 385 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:10,781 Either that I improve somewhere or maybe that 386 00:14:10,941 --> 00:14:12,079 I need to improve 387 00:14:13,493 --> 00:14:16,285 and learn. Then after every recording session, I 388 00:14:16,285 --> 00:14:16,684 go 389 00:14:17,242 --> 00:14:20,043 in my cage and I started learning how 390 00:14:20,043 --> 00:14:22,907 should I improve this section? When you sit 391 00:14:22,907 --> 00:14:25,548 down to compose for a film, Do you 392 00:14:25,548 --> 00:14:27,704 kind of keep that shut off at first 393 00:14:27,704 --> 00:14:29,859 and just read through the script or as 394 00:14:29,859 --> 00:14:31,876 you're reading it, does it start to 395 00:14:32,334 --> 00:14:33,850 swirl around you musically? 396 00:14:34,743 --> 00:14:36,100 Sales number 1, I have to meet the 397 00:14:36,100 --> 00:14:36,978 writer and the director, 398 00:14:37,697 --> 00:14:39,373 and we have to click no matter. What, 399 00:14:39,533 --> 00:14:41,688 we have to click click and feel that 400 00:14:41,688 --> 00:14:42,885 we can create magic together. 401 00:14:43,537 --> 00:14:45,921 Number 2, I read the script and phase 402 00:14:45,921 --> 00:14:47,272 number 2, phase number 3, 403 00:14:47,987 --> 00:14:49,362 I start building themes 404 00:14:49,816 --> 00:14:50,372 on the script. 405 00:14:51,104 --> 00:14:52,699 Between scenes. I share with the direct and 406 00:14:52,699 --> 00:14:53,098 writer, 407 00:14:53,816 --> 00:14:55,651 and I have to feel that they like 408 00:14:55,651 --> 00:14:57,007 it. I have to feel that they love 409 00:14:57,007 --> 00:14:57,167 it. 410 00:14:59,972 --> 00:15:00,849 Phase number 4, 411 00:15:02,124 --> 00:15:04,276 once they finish filming, they send me the 412 00:15:04,276 --> 00:15:04,595 footage, 413 00:15:05,232 --> 00:15:08,134 and I start using these teams that I 414 00:15:08,190 --> 00:15:10,098 that I composed on that script on the 415 00:15:10,098 --> 00:15:12,482 food scenes, and I start writing them on 416 00:15:12,482 --> 00:15:13,356 different scenes. 417 00:15:14,167 --> 00:15:15,837 And then once I put the themes on 418 00:15:15,837 --> 00:15:18,064 the scenes, then I saw orchestrating it for 419 00:15:18,064 --> 00:15:20,292 the orchestra. And that's my favorite part. 420 00:15:21,660 --> 00:15:24,128 Executing that's, you know, on paper, and then 421 00:15:24,128 --> 00:15:25,084 executing it in real life, 422 00:15:25,959 --> 00:15:28,348 which is going to Bud pass wherever I 423 00:15:28,348 --> 00:15:28,746 need to. 424 00:15:29,558 --> 00:15:31,471 Go to record with any orchestra. 425 00:15:31,950 --> 00:15:32,450 That's 426 00:15:32,906 --> 00:15:33,783 obviously the best. 427 00:15:34,899 --> 00:15:36,573 Are you like a mo art and that 428 00:15:36,573 --> 00:15:37,664 you hear all the different 429 00:15:38,262 --> 00:15:40,256 instrumentation in your head or are you more... 430 00:15:40,814 --> 00:15:41,951 Where you sit down 431 00:15:42,329 --> 00:15:44,401 would say a computer and you play around 432 00:15:44,401 --> 00:15:46,155 with different modalities that way? 433 00:15:47,926 --> 00:15:50,641 I'm not a tag guy, so I've never 434 00:15:50,641 --> 00:15:51,540 used any 435 00:15:52,477 --> 00:15:54,952 computer program for music, and I prefer to 436 00:15:54,952 --> 00:15:55,750 keep it that way, 437 00:15:56,481 --> 00:15:58,702 because that way I can hear the music 438 00:15:58,702 --> 00:16:00,210 in my hand. I have an absolute here. 439 00:16:00,369 --> 00:16:01,876 I mean, absolutely is a different thing. 440 00:16:02,907 --> 00:16:05,146 It helps a lot. Bothers also on the... 441 00:16:05,305 --> 00:16:06,180 On another angle. 442 00:16:07,055 --> 00:16:09,600 On daily life. Yeah. A lot. Like, yeah. 443 00:16:09,918 --> 00:16:10,316 Crazy. 444 00:16:10,952 --> 00:16:12,641 Yeah. But at the same time, 445 00:16:13,358 --> 00:16:14,793 yeah. I hear everything in my heart. So 446 00:16:14,953 --> 00:16:16,707 I know even visually what I wrote, and 447 00:16:16,707 --> 00:16:18,222 if there's a mistake in the Oaks I 448 00:16:18,222 --> 00:16:18,722 can 449 00:16:19,099 --> 00:16:20,157 I can tell 450 00:16:20,946 --> 00:16:23,489 what section is playing what? And where is 451 00:16:23,489 --> 00:16:26,269 the... What's the mistake And what they're playing, 452 00:16:26,508 --> 00:16:27,484 what should be 453 00:16:28,511 --> 00:16:31,242 the replacement. So, yeah, this this is a 454 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:33,611 thing that I probably got from my father, 455 00:16:34,567 --> 00:16:35,067 and 456 00:16:35,697 --> 00:16:37,687 Yeah. I'm grateful to that, Honestly. This is 457 00:16:37,687 --> 00:16:38,744 a. This is a 458 00:16:39,119 --> 00:16:41,370 Talent that my dad has, and he 459 00:16:41,746 --> 00:16:42,939 helped me push it. 460 00:16:43,656 --> 00:16:44,633 He helped me 461 00:16:45,024 --> 00:16:46,084 hear music 462 00:16:47,182 --> 00:16:48,780 that I writing in my head. 463 00:16:49,499 --> 00:16:51,597 I once went to a Dave Matthews concert 464 00:16:51,736 --> 00:16:52,716 and the Violin 465 00:16:53,666 --> 00:16:56,050 player was out of tune, and it I 466 00:16:56,050 --> 00:16:57,799 had to leave. It was it was, like, 467 00:16:58,037 --> 00:17:00,819 nails on a check or... Annoying. Right? Yeah. 468 00:17:01,137 --> 00:17:03,459 I mean, not only that. Having an absolute 469 00:17:03,459 --> 00:17:05,608 ear, it means if you listen to... Sometimes 470 00:17:05,608 --> 00:17:07,678 it's tune falling on on the ground, You 471 00:17:07,678 --> 00:17:09,906 know, there's a musical notes, you know what 472 00:17:09,906 --> 00:17:13,276 notes what musical note is or even if 473 00:17:13,276 --> 00:17:16,232 an ambulance passing by, I can know the 474 00:17:16,232 --> 00:17:18,411 notes that are playing. You know, adi 475 00:17:18,884 --> 00:17:20,341 in my head, the musical 476 00:17:20,718 --> 00:17:22,950 knows are playing. It's a bit annoying also 477 00:17:22,950 --> 00:17:25,103 having an absolute video. This is a weird 478 00:17:25,103 --> 00:17:27,118 question, but have you ever 479 00:17:27,987 --> 00:17:29,815 because I'm fascinated by neuroscience. 480 00:17:30,372 --> 00:17:33,313 Have you ever had your brain scanned while 481 00:17:33,313 --> 00:17:36,511 you're playing piano? N. Nav. I bet that 482 00:17:36,511 --> 00:17:37,866 would be really interesting. 483 00:17:38,982 --> 00:17:40,895 Yeah. How can we do that? I have 484 00:17:40,895 --> 00:17:42,888 to be at the hospital. Right? Would a 485 00:17:42,967 --> 00:17:45,052 Piano there? Yeah. They would just have a 486 00:17:45,052 --> 00:17:46,961 piano there and hook you up, but I 487 00:17:46,961 --> 00:17:48,336 think that would be really fascinating. 488 00:17:48,950 --> 00:17:50,063 Contaminated Piano. Right? 489 00:17:51,351 --> 00:17:53,417 Well, I mean, if it's... You know, it's 490 00:17:53,417 --> 00:17:55,086 just stickers on your brain watching it move. 491 00:17:55,245 --> 00:17:57,153 Yeah. I never thought of that. I've see 492 00:17:57,153 --> 00:17:58,822 my brain goes to you, it would be 493 00:17:58,822 --> 00:18:01,388 neat to have that scan and watch how 494 00:18:01,388 --> 00:18:03,405 it plays out and then paint a painting 495 00:18:03,544 --> 00:18:06,021 of what your brain looks like while you're 496 00:18:06,021 --> 00:18:06,660 playing music. 497 00:18:07,393 --> 00:18:09,145 Well, that's an interesting idea. Let's do it. 498 00:18:09,464 --> 00:18:12,172 Nelly, maybe. That would be very cool. Yeah. 499 00:18:12,490 --> 00:18:14,003 Tell me about Lebanon. Tell me what it 500 00:18:14,003 --> 00:18:15,970 was, like, growing up with the influence of 501 00:18:16,089 --> 00:18:18,315 sounds and sites in the beauty and the, 502 00:18:18,394 --> 00:18:20,700 you know, the architecture is stunning, tell me 503 00:18:20,700 --> 00:18:21,098 about that. 504 00:18:21,813 --> 00:18:24,119 You've been to be with before? I've seen 505 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,153 pictures. I haven't been yet. 506 00:18:26,042 --> 00:18:27,868 Beirut is amazing. You know, it looks like 507 00:18:27,948 --> 00:18:29,933 Monte carlo, the trees, nature, 508 00:18:30,647 --> 00:18:33,109 the sea, the mountains kissing the sea, 509 00:18:34,399 --> 00:18:35,677 you know, we have a say, 510 00:18:36,716 --> 00:18:39,033 in Lebanon is saying, like, you know, it's 511 00:18:39,033 --> 00:18:41,430 it's could literally snow in the mountains you 512 00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:43,751 can go key at the same same day 513 00:18:43,751 --> 00:18:44,648 you can go and 514 00:18:45,101 --> 00:18:46,848 swim. You know what? I mean, It's a 515 00:18:46,848 --> 00:18:49,968 beautiful place. It just had different political 516 00:18:50,501 --> 00:18:51,001 problems 517 00:18:51,549 --> 00:18:53,783 all over the years. But they would always 518 00:18:53,783 --> 00:18:56,039 stood up for, you know, for all the 519 00:18:56,177 --> 00:18:58,491 problems. And maybe really inspired. And I... You 520 00:18:58,491 --> 00:19:00,415 know, the full first orchestra that I ever 521 00:19:00,415 --> 00:19:02,822 collaborated with was the Lebanese Monica orchestra. 522 00:19:03,276 --> 00:19:05,819 And I'm grateful to that city because with 523 00:19:05,819 --> 00:19:06,319 whatever 524 00:19:07,184 --> 00:19:07,684 cape, 525 00:19:08,137 --> 00:19:11,416 capacities they have and capabilities they supporting me 526 00:19:11,631 --> 00:19:11,948 you know, 527 00:19:12,981 --> 00:19:15,222 all over the world also to and in 528 00:19:15,301 --> 00:19:17,135 Lebanon, and the Lebanese is dia for. Right, 529 00:19:17,295 --> 00:19:17,534 You know? 530 00:19:18,331 --> 00:19:20,244 They asked for us. So, yeah. I think 531 00:19:20,244 --> 00:19:22,397 growing up in Lebanon was a good great 532 00:19:22,397 --> 00:19:22,715 childhood. 533 00:19:23,688 --> 00:19:25,362 And you... And you are... When I travel 534 00:19:25,362 --> 00:19:27,697 to Europe, you know, I speak different languages, 535 00:19:28,473 --> 00:19:29,691 I have different musical 536 00:19:30,148 --> 00:19:32,381 background. So if I have an Indian, movie, 537 00:19:33,352 --> 00:19:35,576 asking me to, to write the music for. 538 00:19:36,371 --> 00:19:38,913 I mean, it's quite not easier for me. 539 00:19:39,151 --> 00:19:40,978 But because I have the oriented music in 540 00:19:40,978 --> 00:19:42,906 my head, even if I'm a classical composer, 541 00:19:43,145 --> 00:19:46,017 I can literally use that background that I 542 00:19:46,017 --> 00:19:46,757 have somewhere 543 00:19:47,294 --> 00:19:47,794 and 544 00:19:48,251 --> 00:19:48,751 right 545 00:19:49,144 --> 00:19:50,740 for other genres. You know what I mean? 546 00:19:51,059 --> 00:19:53,474 Mh. So, yeah, It's nice to be living 547 00:19:53,532 --> 00:19:55,527 any country that is not in Europe. 548 00:19:56,895 --> 00:19:59,273 Having the music style that is classical than 549 00:19:59,352 --> 00:20:01,835 European. You need you get to win 550 00:20:02,286 --> 00:20:03,975 both cultures? How many 551 00:20:04,444 --> 00:20:06,439 countries have you now toured to as a 552 00:20:06,439 --> 00:20:06,758 performer? 553 00:20:07,317 --> 00:20:08,115 I had many 554 00:20:08,673 --> 00:20:11,387 European cities. The states I had New York. 555 00:20:12,758 --> 00:20:15,784 Once, which is Carnegie Hall, and Los Angeles, 556 00:20:16,023 --> 00:20:18,571 which is 4 times. I think... Yeah. 4 557 00:20:18,571 --> 00:20:20,163 times in La will be ali Orchestra. 558 00:20:21,133 --> 00:20:22,963 We are conducted by Joanna Ahmed with our 559 00:20:23,043 --> 00:20:23,441 Nash shift, 560 00:20:24,475 --> 00:20:24,975 and, 561 00:20:25,748 --> 00:20:27,180 Ali j s, Okay strong. 562 00:20:28,135 --> 00:20:29,112 And I had 563 00:20:30,218 --> 00:20:32,198 in the states that was it. You're about 564 00:20:32,198 --> 00:20:34,021 to come and really make your mark in 565 00:20:34,021 --> 00:20:36,873 the dates. Exactly. Hopefully. Exciting. 566 00:20:37,443 --> 00:20:39,424 Yeah. But I'm scoring movies in Hollywood now. 567 00:20:39,741 --> 00:20:41,564 It's been few years. That's where I live. 568 00:20:41,881 --> 00:20:43,942 In La. Yeah. I live in Santa Monica 569 00:20:43,942 --> 00:20:44,417 by the water. 570 00:20:45,307 --> 00:20:47,936 I love Santa monica. Yeah. Night. I love 571 00:20:47,936 --> 00:20:49,689 it. Really by the pier. Needed by the 572 00:20:49,689 --> 00:20:51,442 pier. Yeah. I live up from that. 573 00:20:52,239 --> 00:20:53,912 It's about a half a mile from that 574 00:20:53,912 --> 00:20:54,151 pier. 575 00:20:55,042 --> 00:20:57,347 A, okay. I love Santa Monica. 576 00:20:57,825 --> 00:20:59,097 I have to be in a city that 577 00:20:59,097 --> 00:20:59,597 is 578 00:21:00,369 --> 00:21:02,730 by ocean or by the sea or by 579 00:21:02,849 --> 00:21:04,757 Yeah. I cannot live in a city where 580 00:21:04,916 --> 00:21:07,540 I feel, frustrated with buildings and, you know, 581 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:08,915 the ocean gives me 582 00:21:09,449 --> 00:21:12,414 eternity and endless vision, you know, makes me 583 00:21:12,963 --> 00:21:14,154 feel inspired. Same. 584 00:21:15,028 --> 00:21:16,061 And dogs too. 585 00:21:17,173 --> 00:21:19,794 I yeah. Hey yeah. I'm calling a cartoon 586 00:21:19,794 --> 00:21:22,592 next year about dogs. How you are? Yeah. 587 00:21:23,467 --> 00:21:26,093 That's great. So I listened to some... I 588 00:21:26,093 --> 00:21:27,787 have not seen the whole of the documentary 589 00:21:28,162 --> 00:21:30,274 enough. It looks fantastic. 590 00:21:30,894 --> 00:21:33,134 Was that the very first movie that you 591 00:21:33,134 --> 00:21:36,174 scored or... Yeah. It's an Australian production retail 592 00:21:36,174 --> 00:21:39,289 and directing Daisy she's australian Lebanese, and it 593 00:21:39,289 --> 00:21:41,986 was about the revolution, the explosion of Lebanon. 594 00:21:42,542 --> 00:21:44,843 And, yeah, we recorded the music back. 595 00:21:45,571 --> 00:21:47,869 With the kiev tele monica orchestra. I recall 596 00:21:47,869 --> 00:21:50,112 we were the last soundtrack that this officer 597 00:21:50,166 --> 00:21:52,068 recorded with. It was just before the war. 598 00:21:52,959 --> 00:21:53,278 No. 599 00:21:53,838 --> 00:21:56,235 A year before the war. Yeah. Exactly. 600 00:21:57,114 --> 00:21:58,872 Was the big... It was the last big 601 00:21:58,872 --> 00:22:00,151 soundtrack that he have recorded. 602 00:22:02,001 --> 00:22:04,710 Sadly, you know, now this war and it's 603 00:22:04,710 --> 00:22:07,122 really sad out how the world is 604 00:22:08,375 --> 00:22:10,787 shifting to towards and problems and 605 00:22:11,418 --> 00:22:13,993 Yeah. I hope I mean, music 606 00:22:14,610 --> 00:22:15,110 invades 607 00:22:15,887 --> 00:22:16,525 more spaces. 608 00:22:17,403 --> 00:22:19,648 Yeah. I hope that too. I'm I'm an 609 00:22:19,648 --> 00:22:20,920 agreement with you on that 1. 610 00:22:22,191 --> 00:22:24,575 What's the plan? But so you're gonna keep 611 00:22:24,575 --> 00:22:27,614 doing more of the scoring a film. Do 612 00:22:27,614 --> 00:22:29,070 you prefer that over 613 00:22:30,562 --> 00:22:31,620 writing for 614 00:22:32,076 --> 00:22:33,351 orchestration for live music? 615 00:22:34,399 --> 00:22:37,019 Both. I love to perform. I love to 616 00:22:37,019 --> 00:22:38,369 perform. I love to write music for Ballet. 617 00:22:38,528 --> 00:22:39,242 As I'm doing now. 618 00:22:39,957 --> 00:22:41,703 I love to score movies, 619 00:22:43,069 --> 00:22:46,369 Right, Music for pop, songs, pop, singers, classical 620 00:22:46,430 --> 00:22:48,029 singers. That's what I love about my job. 621 00:22:48,269 --> 00:22:49,869 I have a big variety of, you know, 622 00:22:50,029 --> 00:22:52,541 of many options I can Like, I can 623 00:22:52,598 --> 00:22:54,666 choose, like, even a week ago I got 624 00:22:54,666 --> 00:22:56,734 an option to score a painting in a 625 00:22:56,734 --> 00:22:59,136 museum London, which is amazing. I got that 626 00:22:59,136 --> 00:23:00,568 2 years ago, but it didn't work, But 627 00:23:00,568 --> 00:23:02,079 now, I think it gonna work. And it's 628 00:23:02,079 --> 00:23:03,830 nice all that, like, as it... As you're 629 00:23:03,830 --> 00:23:05,421 visiting a museum, you see it had 1 630 00:23:05,421 --> 00:23:06,933 next to a big painting. 631 00:23:07,744 --> 00:23:09,662 And you just put the hats the hat 632 00:23:09,662 --> 00:23:11,260 headphones and you know and you just start 633 00:23:11,260 --> 00:23:12,559 listening to music and 634 00:23:13,018 --> 00:23:13,737 contemplating this, 635 00:23:14,376 --> 00:23:16,548 painting, and it's a nice feeling to feel 636 00:23:16,548 --> 00:23:17,823 that the music is linked to the painting. 637 00:23:17,983 --> 00:23:19,997 So what I love about my 638 00:23:20,693 --> 00:23:23,425 industry or my job is, like, or my, 639 00:23:23,802 --> 00:23:24,280 passion, 640 00:23:24,773 --> 00:23:26,863 that it gives me several 641 00:23:27,476 --> 00:23:30,257 ways to to use this music, you know, 642 00:23:30,416 --> 00:23:31,450 or to create this music. 643 00:23:33,295 --> 00:23:35,070 I love that. You did Pin, 644 00:23:35,765 --> 00:23:38,155 and you... Are you do big plans for 645 00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:39,987 more Ballet coming up? Do you have stuff 646 00:23:39,987 --> 00:23:41,103 on the agenda? Yes. 647 00:23:42,233 --> 00:23:44,782 Exactly. I have another project, another ballot. You 648 00:23:44,782 --> 00:23:47,093 know if you're taking off next fall because 649 00:23:47,093 --> 00:23:49,244 the 20 24 is the 100 and fourteenth 650 00:23:49,244 --> 00:23:52,046 and the anniversary of the italian novel that 651 00:23:52,126 --> 00:23:54,827 Carlo Wrote. And then I'm we're doing Picasso, 652 00:23:56,735 --> 00:23:57,371 the painter, 653 00:23:58,245 --> 00:23:59,675 because this is the fifth... This year is 654 00:23:59,675 --> 00:24:00,334 the 50 655 00:24:01,122 --> 00:24:02,079 anniversary of his 656 00:24:02,955 --> 00:24:03,195 death. 657 00:24:04,151 --> 00:24:06,064 So we're... They're doing, like, their ballet on 658 00:24:06,064 --> 00:24:06,542 his life, 659 00:24:07,499 --> 00:24:09,344 featuring his paintings and stuff. And it's really 660 00:24:09,344 --> 00:24:10,932 nice, you know because the ballet, the only 661 00:24:10,932 --> 00:24:13,156 way of communication on stage is good use 662 00:24:13,156 --> 00:24:15,221 it. It's not an easy task is way 663 00:24:15,221 --> 00:24:16,809 harder than writing a music for a movie 664 00:24:16,809 --> 00:24:17,922 because the music and a movie, 665 00:24:18,652 --> 00:24:20,880 is a background in a way. But the 666 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,188 music in Ballet is main, even the communication 667 00:24:23,188 --> 00:24:24,700 within between the desk is the music, you 668 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:27,818 know? Yeah. It's just a different direction but 669 00:24:27,898 --> 00:24:30,527 I love it. Seeing those dancers on stage 670 00:24:30,527 --> 00:24:32,598 and the orchestra life playing your music, like, 671 00:24:33,236 --> 00:24:35,626 is really way few. Mh. Mh. 672 00:24:36,263 --> 00:24:36,741 Absolutely. 673 00:24:37,393 --> 00:24:38,211 And to watch 674 00:24:38,586 --> 00:24:39,086 bodies 675 00:24:39,620 --> 00:24:41,927 become music is a really cool thing. I 676 00:24:41,927 --> 00:24:44,711 love going to the ballet. It's... Yeah. Stunning. 677 00:24:44,949 --> 00:24:47,820 Yeah. I mean, Chi and the nut crackers, 678 00:24:48,295 --> 00:24:48,795 Chi 679 00:24:49,404 --> 00:24:51,623 wrote nut crackers and Swan lake. I mean, 680 00:24:51,781 --> 00:24:52,757 these 2 Vale 681 00:24:53,224 --> 00:24:55,619 My absolute favorite and I always dreamed to 682 00:24:55,619 --> 00:24:57,774 have a project where I'm gonna bite the 683 00:24:57,774 --> 00:25:00,009 music show and it was Kin nokia I 684 00:25:00,009 --> 00:25:01,686 and I have video hope that will love 685 00:25:01,686 --> 00:25:01,846 it. 686 00:25:02,578 --> 00:25:04,328 Yeah. Well, I think that they are loving 687 00:25:04,328 --> 00:25:05,044 it. Are they not? 688 00:25:06,236 --> 00:25:06,475 Yes. 689 00:25:08,145 --> 00:25:08,645 Absolutely. 690 00:25:09,894 --> 00:25:11,348 Is it hard to 691 00:25:12,533 --> 00:25:14,285 as you move through your daily life, when 692 00:25:14,285 --> 00:25:16,377 you're just going through life as a normal 693 00:25:16,991 --> 00:25:18,105 quote unquote person, 694 00:25:18,902 --> 00:25:20,038 not performing 695 00:25:20,588 --> 00:25:21,646 not practicing, 696 00:25:22,023 --> 00:25:22,899 not composing, 697 00:25:23,377 --> 00:25:24,971 but just living your life. 698 00:25:25,688 --> 00:25:27,144 Is it hard to 699 00:25:28,092 --> 00:25:28,592 assimilate 700 00:25:29,125 --> 00:25:29,625 amongst 701 00:25:31,033 --> 00:25:31,748 the masses, 702 00:25:32,145 --> 00:25:34,053 if you will. Does that make sense? Yeah. 703 00:25:34,212 --> 00:25:36,778 Yeah. Absolutely. I... And again, is this another 704 00:25:37,089 --> 00:25:38,849 Ego go quick. Yeah. When you are... No. 705 00:25:39,170 --> 00:25:39,970 No. Yeah. I mean, 706 00:25:40,769 --> 00:25:41,829 Actually, I love 707 00:25:43,009 --> 00:25:44,150 meeting new mindset, 708 00:25:44,529 --> 00:25:45,029 and 709 00:25:45,663 --> 00:25:47,655 new people. I mean, I love to meet 710 00:25:47,655 --> 00:25:49,728 new impressions every day, new nc entities, new 711 00:25:49,728 --> 00:25:50,365 visions. You... 712 00:25:51,162 --> 00:25:52,996 It inspires you to see different kind of 713 00:25:52,996 --> 00:25:55,472 people. You know, how they think how what 714 00:25:55,472 --> 00:25:58,011 kind of music they hear, I like... I 715 00:25:58,011 --> 00:25:59,781 like to discover a new music 716 00:26:00,392 --> 00:26:04,087 through new people, You know? But being stuck 717 00:26:04,623 --> 00:26:06,216 home writing music at the end of the 718 00:26:06,216 --> 00:26:08,207 day, you know, know, have to go out 719 00:26:08,207 --> 00:26:10,597 and say in France, be full mall, which 720 00:26:10,597 --> 00:26:13,170 means You just have to... Sometimes I go 721 00:26:13,170 --> 00:26:15,250 crazy outside. Know people think I'm crazy with 722 00:26:15,250 --> 00:26:17,009 my friends. But just scream and just... That's... 723 00:26:17,250 --> 00:26:18,609 I don't. I just need to breathe, You 724 00:26:18,609 --> 00:26:18,769 know? 725 00:26:19,664 --> 00:26:20,403 Because writing 726 00:26:20,782 --> 00:26:23,818 orchestrating on papers is such a stressful task. 727 00:26:24,377 --> 00:26:27,268 It's sku calculations, the imagine Next week, I 728 00:26:27,268 --> 00:26:28,784 have a recording with the Bud pass Orchestra. 729 00:26:28,943 --> 00:26:30,321 For the for the Bug 730 00:26:31,257 --> 00:26:32,794 movie, and there's 731 00:26:33,571 --> 00:26:34,071 70 732 00:26:34,783 --> 00:26:35,283 musicians 733 00:26:35,740 --> 00:26:37,255 that are gonna play my music. That is 734 00:26:37,255 --> 00:26:39,169 still on paper now, which is very stressful, 735 00:26:39,329 --> 00:26:40,626 You know? So 736 00:26:41,163 --> 00:26:43,237 the amount of stress with the deadline that 737 00:26:43,237 --> 00:26:43,896 we have 738 00:26:44,450 --> 00:26:45,990 and this industry is 739 00:26:46,450 --> 00:26:47,090 is really tough. 740 00:26:47,809 --> 00:26:49,250 So when I go out and I meet 741 00:26:49,250 --> 00:26:50,150 people. I just 742 00:26:50,850 --> 00:26:52,780 go, mad. I just, you know, don't wanna 743 00:26:52,780 --> 00:26:54,446 talk. Like music. I don't wanna. You know 744 00:26:54,446 --> 00:26:56,510 what I mean? Yeah. It's just my way 745 00:26:56,510 --> 00:26:56,986 of... Yeah. 746 00:26:57,938 --> 00:26:59,366 I'm forgetting that I'm a musician. 747 00:27:00,017 --> 00:27:00,517 Music 748 00:27:00,892 --> 00:27:03,777 is mathematics? Matthew. So as you're 749 00:27:04,231 --> 00:27:05,288 building your 750 00:27:05,981 --> 00:27:06,378 compositions, 751 00:27:07,412 --> 00:27:09,264 is it 1 of those things where 752 00:27:09,894 --> 00:27:11,434 as in masks that 753 00:27:11,974 --> 00:27:14,795 you can tell when the equation isn't quite 754 00:27:15,174 --> 00:27:17,095 lining up, and then you have to go 755 00:27:17,095 --> 00:27:20,621 back and and recalibrate everything or doesn't it 756 00:27:20,621 --> 00:27:22,855 really flow in real time forward? 757 00:27:23,413 --> 00:27:25,407 Depends. The time sometimes I change your whole 758 00:27:25,407 --> 00:27:28,133 concept. Sometimes I feel the rhythm is you 759 00:27:28,133 --> 00:27:30,439 know, when you're write with make lines, pure 760 00:27:30,439 --> 00:27:30,939 math 761 00:27:31,313 --> 00:27:32,824 mathematics, you know, pure math. 762 00:27:33,539 --> 00:27:35,924 But... Yeah. Sometimes I change the whole concept 763 00:27:36,004 --> 00:27:38,646 Some sometimes Just change and instruments, You know? 764 00:27:39,683 --> 00:27:41,518 But it's it's a whole thing of creating 765 00:27:41,518 --> 00:27:44,389 and writing and orchestrating because as you know, 766 00:27:44,469 --> 00:27:46,223 the Orchestra is not playing all missions they're 767 00:27:46,223 --> 00:27:47,340 not playing the same thing. 768 00:27:48,235 --> 00:27:50,715 You know, that's the magic of orchestration is 769 00:27:50,715 --> 00:27:53,674 knowing what to write to who and, you 770 00:27:53,674 --> 00:27:55,835 know, when should they play when they when 771 00:27:55,835 --> 00:27:57,767 should they not? It's not easy. 772 00:27:59,282 --> 00:28:01,356 It's not easy to task of orchestration. 773 00:28:02,393 --> 00:28:04,068 Composing is is not easy coming up with 774 00:28:04,068 --> 00:28:06,721 new themes. That's that's the gift having 775 00:28:07,034 --> 00:28:08,651 having to think that I need a timeless 776 00:28:08,869 --> 00:28:11,502 team that will just help the audience, and 777 00:28:11,662 --> 00:28:13,417 I want them to leave the the concert 778 00:28:13,417 --> 00:28:15,288 all the room. The theater 779 00:28:15,985 --> 00:28:17,182 with this music in their head. 780 00:28:17,980 --> 00:28:20,794 That's not an easy task, so to to 781 00:28:21,251 --> 00:28:21,751 sign 782 00:28:22,223 --> 00:28:24,210 a theme in my head and saying that's 783 00:28:24,210 --> 00:28:26,357 it, you know. But orchestration... 784 00:28:27,073 --> 00:28:29,379 Orchestration is why you think this music is 785 00:28:29,379 --> 00:28:29,617 huge. 786 00:28:30,269 --> 00:28:31,702 That's why John williams is the best for 787 00:28:31,702 --> 00:28:33,294 me is the best orchestra on the planet. 788 00:28:33,533 --> 00:28:35,046 He was just about to bring him up. 789 00:28:35,444 --> 00:28:37,196 Alive. I have to see a alive. He's 790 00:28:37,196 --> 00:28:38,412 the best live orchestra 791 00:28:38,723 --> 00:28:39,996 the planet because, you know, 792 00:28:41,110 --> 00:28:43,098 you feel with this music that it's huge 793 00:28:43,098 --> 00:28:45,167 just like an army together, You know, you 794 00:28:45,167 --> 00:28:48,057 feel there's a big weight in his music, 795 00:28:48,217 --> 00:28:50,454 you know, as if you feel it's supported, 796 00:28:50,614 --> 00:28:53,411 and this support the orchestration. I was wondering 797 00:28:53,411 --> 00:28:55,825 if he studied the way you study the 798 00:28:55,825 --> 00:28:56,325 classical 799 00:28:56,785 --> 00:28:59,664 music if you studied composer of film as 800 00:28:59,664 --> 00:29:01,265 well. I'm I'm of course you do, But 801 00:29:01,345 --> 00:29:02,005 John Williams 802 00:29:02,464 --> 00:29:04,864 yeah. And my head, Danny Elf also is 803 00:29:04,864 --> 00:29:06,689 really interesting... I love Danny Elf as well. 804 00:29:06,927 --> 00:29:08,912 Yeah. He's a great composer. 805 00:29:09,785 --> 00:29:10,285 Mori 806 00:29:12,103 --> 00:29:14,811 James Horn, Y on Johan johannes and I 807 00:29:14,811 --> 00:29:17,837 love Hans as well, James Newton Howard back 808 00:29:17,837 --> 00:29:18,395 in time, 809 00:29:18,952 --> 00:29:19,669 Howard chore. 810 00:29:20,957 --> 00:29:23,497 Scott Bradley and Man. I have a lot 811 00:29:23,497 --> 00:29:26,115 of... Every composer have in Hollywood they have 812 00:29:26,115 --> 00:29:27,226 their touch of magic. 813 00:29:28,273 --> 00:29:29,865 They have a really cool thing here at 814 00:29:29,865 --> 00:29:32,729 the Hollywood bowl where they'll show a film 815 00:29:32,729 --> 00:29:35,116 and they'll... The Plays live. That's my z 816 00:29:35,116 --> 00:29:37,049 now. I've gone to back to the future 817 00:29:37,049 --> 00:29:38,190 and I've gone to 818 00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:39,230 black Panther 819 00:29:39,529 --> 00:29:41,309 and seeing those, and it's really 820 00:29:41,849 --> 00:29:45,618 extraordinary. No. Nice. Wow. I attended 1 of 821 00:29:45,618 --> 00:29:47,452 the concerts a few years back with John 822 00:29:47,532 --> 00:29:49,606 Williams conducted by You gustavo with good them 823 00:29:49,606 --> 00:29:51,679 out. They played star was it was amazing. 824 00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:54,005 Oh, I wish I got that. Space Odyssey 825 00:29:54,005 --> 00:29:55,698 as well. Do you have a favorite 826 00:29:56,550 --> 00:29:58,220 which is, I know a question you probably 827 00:29:58,220 --> 00:29:59,810 get asked a brazilian times. So I'm gonna 828 00:29:59,810 --> 00:30:02,696 ask it anyway, do you have a favorite 829 00:30:03,563 --> 00:30:06,025 Orchestra that not for you to write for, 830 00:30:06,184 --> 00:30:07,614 but just if you were to yeah go 831 00:30:07,614 --> 00:30:09,521 out for a night and enjoy. I mean, 832 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,339 I have 833 00:30:11,126 --> 00:30:12,797 Okay so that I'm targeting some there to 834 00:30:12,797 --> 00:30:13,774 work with, hopefully 835 00:30:14,547 --> 00:30:16,138 talk you for money, we end up for 836 00:30:16,138 --> 00:30:16,775 that money. 837 00:30:18,303 --> 00:30:19,500 Berlin for, new, 838 00:30:21,257 --> 00:30:22,156 what else sent. 839 00:30:23,013 --> 00:30:25,886 Yeah. I mean, those focuses are among the 840 00:30:25,886 --> 00:30:27,574 best in the world. I would love to 841 00:30:27,574 --> 00:30:29,399 work with that somebody of course. Yeah. Well, 842 00:30:29,558 --> 00:30:31,939 it's my hope that music continues to heal 843 00:30:31,939 --> 00:30:34,400 the world. So I appreciate that you're giving 844 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,960 your gifts that way. Thank you, Susan. Yeah. 845 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,353 Thank you. I mean, I hope music inspires 846 00:30:39,353 --> 00:30:40,251 people to 847 00:30:40,628 --> 00:30:41,368 to be 848 00:30:42,861 --> 00:30:44,717 more hopeful in a world where 849 00:30:45,189 --> 00:30:46,168 we need more 850 00:30:47,345 --> 00:30:50,319 good people around and that vibes and good 851 00:30:50,378 --> 00:30:52,933 energy. Any suggestions to young people that might 852 00:30:52,933 --> 00:30:54,550 be listening who want to 853 00:30:54,942 --> 00:30:57,988 follow your lead. They should study as much 854 00:30:58,045 --> 00:31:00,512 scores as possible for other conclusions. That's where 855 00:31:00,591 --> 00:31:01,250 They know 856 00:31:01,626 --> 00:31:03,455 where the the their direction is in the 857 00:31:03,455 --> 00:31:06,014 old registration or even composition. And not just 858 00:31:06,014 --> 00:31:07,763 think that, yeah, I am gifted That I 859 00:31:07,763 --> 00:31:09,511 have music and add, I'm just kinda write. 860 00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:11,832 They have to study the orchestration. And study 861 00:31:11,832 --> 00:31:13,185 the other composer scores, 862 00:31:13,822 --> 00:31:15,039 that's how they get 863 00:31:15,574 --> 00:31:16,074 to 864 00:31:16,688 --> 00:31:18,838 better and better and better love everything. Mh. 865 00:31:19,970 --> 00:31:21,410 I know that Piano is your craft, but 866 00:31:21,410 --> 00:31:23,170 do you have other instruments that you enjoy 867 00:31:23,170 --> 00:31:26,049 playing? The only instrument that I play professionally 868 00:31:26,049 --> 00:31:28,210 in Piano. Yeah. Other than that I enjoy 869 00:31:28,210 --> 00:31:28,609 listening. 870 00:31:29,102 --> 00:31:30,691 So other instruments. Here. Like, I like with 871 00:31:30,770 --> 00:31:31,406 Solo cello. 872 00:31:32,121 --> 00:31:34,447 I like solo transcripts would be orchestra. 873 00:31:35,138 --> 00:31:36,807 But to play, you no. I'm artist. Yeah. 874 00:31:37,459 --> 00:31:39,776 Enjoy your stay in Paris. Thank you so 875 00:31:39,776 --> 00:31:41,614 much for your time. Thank you so much, 876 00:31:41,774 --> 00:31:42,174 Susan. 877 00:31:42,733 --> 00:31:44,272 Thank you for this beautiful, 878 00:31:45,370 --> 00:31:45,610 discussion. 879 00:31:46,263 --> 00:31:47,937 I may call it, and I hope to 880 00:31:47,937 --> 00:31:50,407 meet you soon in Santa Monica. Yeah. Definitely. 881 00:31:50,646 --> 00:31:53,197 Let people know how they best might follow 882 00:31:53,197 --> 00:31:53,675 your work. 883 00:31:54,408 --> 00:31:56,240 I mean, I have a website, a George 884 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:57,516 with an ST0MB 885 00:31:57,516 --> 00:31:59,827 dot com, and I have Instagram, same pane, 886 00:32:00,225 --> 00:32:01,421 george with an ST0MB. 887 00:32:01,993 --> 00:32:04,459 They can, listen to my music on spotify 888 00:32:04,538 --> 00:32:05,175 Apple music, 889 00:32:05,891 --> 00:32:06,709 these are 890 00:32:07,084 --> 00:32:09,169 Youtube channel. I have a Youtube channel. But 891 00:32:09,169 --> 00:32:10,528 they can follow me on Instagram to know 892 00:32:10,528 --> 00:32:12,126 my updates where I am if If they 893 00:32:12,126 --> 00:32:15,104 wanna attend my concerts and stuff. Perfect. Wonderful. 894 00:32:15,403 --> 00:32:17,001 Thank you. And I'll put links on hey 895 00:32:17,001 --> 00:32:18,200 human podcast dot com. 896 00:32:18,774 --> 00:32:21,160 For everyone to go to, that's easy so 897 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,274 that they can find it all in 1 898 00:32:22,274 --> 00:32:24,422 place as well. Thank you so much, Susan. 899 00:32:25,058 --> 00:32:27,707 Thank you. Yeah. I wish you much success, 900 00:32:28,027 --> 00:32:31,164 and I, and also a success in the 901 00:32:31,303 --> 00:32:33,780 bud past, the getting that all done as 902 00:32:33,780 --> 00:32:35,305 well. Thank you so much. I'll just send 903 00:32:35,305 --> 00:32:37,845 you the music afterwards the. Oh, perfect. Wonderful. 904 00:32:38,004 --> 00:32:40,702 Thank you for listening everybody. Thank you everybody. 905 00:32:40,941 --> 00:32:42,305 Bye bye. Bye bye. 906 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:43,735 Bye bye. 907 00:32:45,403 --> 00:32:47,866 Great review and subscribe to hey human podcast 908 00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,931 on itunes or wherever you get your podcast. 909 00:32:50,583 --> 00:32:51,780 Thanks. Bye.