1 00:00:08,065 --> 00:00:11,005 Hey humans. How's it going? Susan, Ruth here. Thanks. 2 00:00:11,005 --> 00:00:14,085 Listening to another episode of Hey Human Podcast. 3 00:00:15,595 --> 00:00:15,885 This. 4 00:00:15,885 --> 00:00:17,645 Is episode 385, 5 00:00:18,025 --> 00:00:22,885 and I had a conversation with Udo Erasmus. He's a bestselling author, 6 00:00:23,115 --> 00:00:26,325 most notably Fats that heal, fats That Kill, 7 00:00:26,785 --> 00:00:28,725 and he's the founder of Udo's Choice. 8 00:00:29,705 --> 00:00:34,645 He is the guy who invented flaxseed oil. We discuss pesticide poisoning, 9 00:00:35,015 --> 00:00:37,965 pioneering machinery, microbiology, 10 00:00:38,345 --> 00:00:41,765 and finding the balance of nutrients to heal ourselves. 11 00:00:42,315 --> 00:00:44,845 This is part two of my interview with Udo. 12 00:00:45,395 --> 00:00:50,325 Find part one on episode 375 where we talk all about the spiritual 13 00:00:50,325 --> 00:00:51,365 center of self. 14 00:00:52,105 --> 00:00:55,445 And this is focusing on the Body center. 15 00:00:56,425 --> 00:00:59,015 Check out hey human podcast.com for links. 16 00:00:59,275 --> 00:01:03,655 And to learn more about me and my guests and the show, check out Susan ruth.com. 17 00:01:03,675 --> 00:01:06,895 To learn more about me and my other artistic endeavors, 18 00:01:07,235 --> 00:01:10,615 follow Susan Ruths and hey, human podcast on social media. 19 00:01:11,205 --> 00:01:14,535 Find my albums on Spotify, apple music, Amazon music, 20 00:01:14,855 --> 00:01:19,695 wherever you get your music. And rate review, subscribe to, Hey, 21 00:01:19,695 --> 00:01:23,335 human podcast on iTunes or wherever you get your podcasts. 22 00:01:23,365 --> 00:01:27,335 It's super helpful and I really appreciate it. Alright, let's get into this. 23 00:01:27,465 --> 00:01:31,495 Thank you for listening. Be well, be kind, be love. 24 00:01:32,085 --> 00:01:32,918 Here we go. 25 00:01:34,945 --> 00:01:35,778 Hi. 26 00:01:36,175 --> 00:01:37,008 Where are you? 27 00:01:37,265 --> 00:01:38,098 Uh, Santa Monica. 28 00:01:38,665 --> 00:01:39,498 Oh, Santa Monica. 29 00:01:40,465 --> 00:01:41,298 How about you? 30 00:01:41,595 --> 00:01:42,845 Vancouver, welcome. 31 00:01:42,845 --> 00:01:44,245 Back. First of all. Hi. 32 00:01:44,275 --> 00:01:45,645 Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Hi. 33 00:01:46,195 --> 00:01:49,285 It's nice to see you again. We're, we're gonna jump into part two. 34 00:01:49,435 --> 00:01:52,565 Part one was the spiritual self, 35 00:01:52,925 --> 00:01:56,365 I suppose is the best way to put it. Yeah. Yeah. And part two is, 36 00:01:56,585 --> 00:02:01,205 now we're gonna speak about the, the body, how to keep it running. Well, yeah. 37 00:02:01,515 --> 00:02:03,085 Give everyone a little background. 38 00:02:03,205 --> 00:02:05,525 I encourage everyone to go listen to the other episode of course. 39 00:02:05,545 --> 00:02:10,005 But give a little background to what led you into the 40 00:02:11,865 --> 00:02:15,245 taking things internally to make yourself better. 41 00:02:16,105 --> 00:02:17,845 How I got into nutrition. I, 42 00:02:18,125 --> 00:02:22,685 I got poisoned by pesticides in 1980 and that came out of 43 00:02:23,105 --> 00:02:27,165 my marriage broke up and I was really upset. 44 00:02:28,305 --> 00:02:31,965 And, uh, I, I basically, I wanted to kill something, 45 00:02:32,345 --> 00:02:34,645 so I took a job as a pesticide sprayer. 46 00:02:35,045 --> 00:02:37,405 'cause pesticides are only made, 47 00:02:37,735 --> 00:02:40,125 their only purpose is to kill things. 48 00:02:40,945 --> 00:02:43,605 And so I sprayed them really carelessly for about three years. 49 00:02:44,365 --> 00:02:46,245 I walked barefoot over the lawns, 50 00:02:46,325 --> 00:02:50,205 I sprayed till the skin peeled off the bottom of my feet. 51 00:02:50,225 --> 00:02:53,685 And then I started wearing rubber boots. But it was a summer job. 52 00:02:53,845 --> 00:02:55,445 I always did it in a bathing suit. 53 00:02:55,925 --> 00:03:00,495 I wear these rubber boots now and the wind would drift a spray on my back. 54 00:03:00,595 --> 00:03:04,785 And somebody said to me, aren't you worried you're gonna get poisoned? I said, 55 00:03:04,805 --> 00:03:07,305 nah, I'm immune. But I wasn't immune. 56 00:03:07,305 --> 00:03:11,465 After three years of being really careless, I got poisoned my pesticide. 57 00:03:12,655 --> 00:03:14,275 And so I went to the doctor and said, uh, 58 00:03:14,275 --> 00:03:17,475 what do you have for pesticide poisoning? She said, nothing. 59 00:03:18,665 --> 00:03:22,445 And that was the day it became, I mean, I always knew, you know, I I, 60 00:03:22,845 --> 00:03:26,365 I remember saying at one point, I know I only get one body. 61 00:03:26,565 --> 00:03:30,685 I know I need to take care of it, so I need to pay some attention. So I, 62 00:03:30,845 --> 00:03:35,685 I kind of knew that my health is my responsibility, but when she said nothing, 63 00:03:37,095 --> 00:03:40,955 the penny dropped. And I could hear the sound really loud. , oh, 64 00:03:41,225 --> 00:03:44,115 your health is your responsibility. And so, 65 00:03:44,115 --> 00:03:47,875 because I had background in biochemistry and genetics and science, and so, 66 00:03:48,055 --> 00:03:50,675 and it was like, I found it interesting. Uh, 67 00:03:50,995 --> 00:03:55,235 I decided I would try and figure it out for myself. They don't have it. 68 00:03:55,235 --> 00:03:57,595 The experts don't have anything, so let me figure it out. 69 00:03:57,735 --> 00:04:00,395 So I went and looked in the research in Medline. 70 00:04:00,745 --> 00:04:05,075 They had like 16 million different research studies are published there, 71 00:04:05,705 --> 00:04:06,538 16 million. 72 00:04:07,255 --> 00:04:12,155 And I started to look at anything that had to do with health and nutrition. 73 00:04:12,265 --> 00:04:17,105 Disease and nutrition. I didn't pay attention to water and air that much. 74 00:04:17,445 --> 00:04:21,785 But the point of it was, well, if your body is made out of food, water, and air, 75 00:04:23,625 --> 00:04:26,125 so if something goes wrong with the body, 76 00:04:26,915 --> 00:04:31,765 then the way you fix it is you raise your standard of intake of food, 77 00:04:31,855 --> 00:04:36,615 water, and air, and your body turns over all the time. 78 00:04:36,925 --> 00:04:38,775 Like it's a major construction site. 79 00:04:39,515 --> 00:04:44,385 98% of the molecules in your body today 80 00:04:44,455 --> 00:04:48,025 will have been removed and replaced. If you and I get together next year, 81 00:04:48,025 --> 00:04:52,175 at this time, 98%, you don't notice it, 82 00:04:52,515 --> 00:04:57,455 but you're always under major construction. And so if you raise your standard, 83 00:04:58,285 --> 00:05:03,135 then within one year you will have rebuilt 98% of your body 84 00:05:03,555 --> 00:05:07,415 to a higher standard. That's healing. That's what's, 85 00:05:07,415 --> 00:05:09,055 that's called healing. 86 00:05:09,885 --> 00:05:12,415 What did the pesticide poisoning do to you? 87 00:05:13,415 --> 00:05:17,695 I got, um, I got, uh, nausea, cramps, dizziness. 88 00:05:18,915 --> 00:05:22,295 Uh, if I turned my head, it felt like my head turned, but my brain didn't. 89 00:05:22,685 --> 00:05:26,255 Obviously that's, that's an experience because obviously when your head turns, 90 00:05:26,255 --> 00:05:29,975 your brain turns. But that's what it felt like. And uh, 91 00:05:29,995 --> 00:05:34,895 and then low energy. I was 38 years old and if I walked around a city block, 92 00:05:35,095 --> 00:05:39,255 I had to sit down and rest. So I was like 80, you know, I'm 81 now. 93 00:05:39,255 --> 00:05:41,735 I have more energy than I did after I got poisoned. 94 00:05:41,995 --> 00:05:44,975 And I knew it came from the pesticides, you know. 95 00:05:44,975 --> 00:05:48,415 And then I went around and I talked to the people who gave me my pesticides, 96 00:05:48,415 --> 00:05:52,495 prayers, license, government, and said, what do you have for pest? You know, 97 00:05:52,495 --> 00:05:53,315 what do you have? Like, 98 00:05:53,315 --> 00:05:57,405 can I come and look at some of the research you have on pesticide poisoning? 99 00:05:58,305 --> 00:06:02,125 And they said, no, we can't let you do that. And they said, anyway, 100 00:06:02,145 --> 00:06:05,805 you probably just have a flu. It's going around. I knew it wasn't the flu, 101 00:06:05,825 --> 00:06:09,645 so they were lying to me. And, uh, they never, in, in, 102 00:06:09,645 --> 00:06:12,045 when I was trained to spray pesticides, 103 00:06:12,045 --> 00:06:14,925 they never said anything about pesticide poisoning, nothing. 104 00:06:15,485 --> 00:06:20,405 I lived in Nashville, uh, and Nashville's heavily sprayed Mm-Hmm. 105 00:06:20,445 --> 00:06:21,645 community. Yeah. 106 00:06:21,905 --> 00:06:26,085 And of course it's on all of our foods that are veggies and fruits and things. 107 00:06:26,785 --> 00:06:30,965 And I started having lethargy and 108 00:06:31,615 --> 00:06:35,525 weird joint stuff and weird skin stuff. And the doctor, 109 00:06:35,715 --> 00:06:39,765 western medicine doctors kept saying that, we can't find anything. 110 00:06:39,765 --> 00:06:41,805 We can't find anything. And I finally, 111 00:06:42,075 --> 00:06:46,165 someone recommended another doctor to go to who is a 112 00:06:46,735 --> 00:06:49,525 biochemist. Mm-Hmm. . That was their forte. 113 00:06:49,985 --> 00:06:53,245 And I went to her and she ran some tests and she said, 114 00:06:53,245 --> 00:06:58,045 you have pesticide poisoning. And I said, oh, okay. 115 00:06:58,865 --> 00:07:03,685 And she said, your choices are getting all your blood out and put back in, 116 00:07:03,905 --> 00:07:06,205 you know, clean it, put it back in or, 117 00:07:06,665 --> 00:07:11,325 and that I went on a six month about treatment of the stuff I had to drink. 118 00:07:11,325 --> 00:07:12,845 That was terrible that I kept in the freezer. 119 00:07:13,545 --> 00:07:17,205 And as it was leaching outta my body, it was coming out of the joints. 120 00:07:17,675 --> 00:07:18,445 I've never, 121 00:07:18,445 --> 00:07:22,645 I don't think I've ever been in as much pain as the week it took to leach that 122 00:07:22,645 --> 00:07:23,478 stuff out of me. 123 00:07:23,905 --> 00:07:27,555 Wow. Wow. Amazing. It's. 124 00:07:27,555 --> 00:07:28,388 Not fun. 125 00:07:28,495 --> 00:07:29,315 No. 126 00:07:29,315 --> 00:07:31,795 . And I would argue, and you might agree with me, 127 00:07:31,795 --> 00:07:36,355 that I think a lot of people probably have a low grade pesticide poisoning at 128 00:07:36,355 --> 00:07:37,188 all times. 129 00:07:38,185 --> 00:07:41,485 Oh yeah. Oh yeah. The, you know, the medical profession. 130 00:07:41,605 --> 00:07:45,725 I took a year of medicine because I wanted to know what health is. Uh, 131 00:07:46,085 --> 00:07:48,525 I think you've probably heard that story. And uh, 132 00:07:49,425 --> 00:07:51,325 you know what I've realized over the years, 133 00:07:52,015 --> 00:07:55,825 everything they do in medicine is not natural. 134 00:07:56,415 --> 00:08:00,305 Cutting holes in you, cutting things pieces out of you is not natural. 135 00:08:01,255 --> 00:08:04,545 What the drugs they give you, they're not natural. 'cause if they were natural, 136 00:08:04,565 --> 00:08:05,545 you couldn't patent them. 137 00:08:06,595 --> 00:08:11,255 So you always getting things that didn't exist in nature that don't belong in 138 00:08:11,255 --> 00:08:13,015 your body. That's why they have side effects. 139 00:08:13,715 --> 00:08:16,975 And it's kind of like you're trying to poison your way to health. 140 00:08:18,075 --> 00:08:20,615 And that's not how it works. It goes on and on. 141 00:08:20,615 --> 00:08:23,575 Everything that's going on there, you know, radiation, 142 00:08:23,755 --> 00:08:28,255 you know what you expect to cure cancer with rays that are known to cause 143 00:08:28,255 --> 00:08:31,535 cancer, you cut out a tumor, you, you know, 144 00:08:32,035 --> 00:08:34,135 it wasn't a tumor that gave you the cancer. 145 00:08:34,285 --> 00:08:36,855 Something happened in your body that grew the tumor. 146 00:08:37,395 --> 00:08:41,015 So you're dealing with the consequences and you're not dealing with the cause. 147 00:08:41,355 --> 00:08:44,815 And it goes, I mean, it goes on and on the whole practice of medicine. You know, 148 00:08:45,015 --> 00:08:47,615 I, I'll give you another example. Cold and flu season, 149 00:08:48,045 --> 00:08:50,535 cold and flu viruses have protein coats. 150 00:08:50,885 --> 00:08:55,405 They come in through your mouth or your nose or your eyes and then they hang out 151 00:08:55,405 --> 00:08:59,685 in the back of your nose. So it's kind of, you can't sort of like pull 'em out, 152 00:08:59,715 --> 00:09:04,285 poke 'em out, you can maybe wash 'em out. But one of the things you can do, 153 00:09:04,305 --> 00:09:08,605 and if you were eating raw foods like every other creature on the planet that 154 00:09:08,605 --> 00:09:13,305 eats the enzymes in the raw food 155 00:09:14,165 --> 00:09:19,105 digest, the food and the protease enzymes in those raw foods 156 00:09:19,315 --> 00:09:23,945 would digest the protein coats off the viruses and put the viruses out of 157 00:09:23,945 --> 00:09:24,985 commission. Would you. 158 00:09:24,985 --> 00:09:27,345 Have to put a carrot in your nose or how does that work? ? 159 00:09:27,495 --> 00:09:30,705 Yeah, that would work. No. Well, what we do now is what we, 160 00:09:30,725 --> 00:09:34,785 we make enzymes and capsules. So, and then what you do is you, I, 161 00:09:34,895 --> 00:09:38,265 what I do is I open a capsule on my, on my tongue, 162 00:09:39,585 --> 00:09:42,165 in my mouth, swish 'em around everywhere. 163 00:09:44,135 --> 00:09:47,075 And then wherever they come in contact with a virus, 164 00:09:47,465 --> 00:09:51,035 they put it out of commission before it even gets in your cells. 165 00:09:52,605 --> 00:09:56,465 And that's how you should be dealing with respiratory viruses. 166 00:09:56,985 --> 00:10:00,505 'cause you wanna pick 'em off. So you can do that with shooting, uh, 167 00:10:00,855 --> 00:10:05,585 salt water up your nose. You can do it with, uh, navage, you know, 168 00:10:05,835 --> 00:10:08,265 where you pour, you know, you hold your sideways, 169 00:10:08,805 --> 00:10:12,825 you put water in one nostril and then drain it out the other nostril, 170 00:10:12,825 --> 00:10:14,985 then you turn the throat the other way and do it again. 171 00:10:15,685 --> 00:10:18,625 But not with tap water. Do not just use regular old tap water. 172 00:10:18,855 --> 00:10:19,825 Well, it's the better, 173 00:10:19,975 --> 00:10:24,815 it's better use saline or even distilled water or 174 00:10:24,815 --> 00:10:28,335 even, and what I do is I shoot acid water up my nose that I get out of. 175 00:10:28,455 --> 00:10:33,455 I have a, an electrolyzing machine. So I pH 2.5 water, 176 00:10:33,535 --> 00:10:35,575 I shoot it up my nose, shoot it in the back of my throat, 177 00:10:35,745 --> 00:10:39,055 shoot it on my closed eyes, and it, 178 00:10:39,155 --> 00:10:43,895 it kills 99% of all the viruses in 30 seconds. 179 00:10:45,345 --> 00:10:45,865 And again, 180 00:10:45,865 --> 00:10:49,005 you're picking them off before they have a chance to get into cells and 181 00:10:49,325 --> 00:10:53,365 multiply. And when they get in it, when a virus gets in a cell, you know, 182 00:10:53,385 --> 00:10:58,285 it takes over the machinery and makes 200 or 300 copies of itself and then blows 183 00:10:58,285 --> 00:10:59,118 up the cell. 184 00:10:59,225 --> 00:11:03,645 And then there's 200 or 300 that are all looking for a cell to infect. Well, 185 00:11:03,645 --> 00:11:05,485 the best way to deal with it is pick 'em off, 186 00:11:06,465 --> 00:11:09,235 pick 'em off before they get in, 187 00:11:10,205 --> 00:11:14,065 or at least pick 'em off when they come out before they get into another cell. 188 00:11:14,525 --> 00:11:18,865 No, no, no. We take a antibiotic and they don't work against viruses. 189 00:11:19,315 --> 00:11:20,465 Right. Or we, you know, 190 00:11:20,465 --> 00:11:25,085 we do all kinds of other crazy stuff and we do it in ways that are not natural 191 00:11:25,185 --> 00:11:29,255 to nature. Even when you take injections, you know, 192 00:11:29,255 --> 00:11:31,295 when you take an injection, you know, 193 00:11:31,315 --> 00:11:34,735 for something that actually comes to you from the outside in the environment, 194 00:11:35,915 --> 00:11:40,585 why are you shooting it into the middle of your body when where the problem is 195 00:11:40,685 --> 00:11:45,625 is on the surface of your, of your skin in your respiratory tract anyway. 196 00:11:45,645 --> 00:11:48,745 So, you know, and then so we have pesticides. They kill things, 197 00:11:49,325 --> 00:11:53,405 but we don't have anything to fix the problems they cause. And the problem is, 198 00:11:53,655 --> 00:11:57,125 pesticides kill living organisms. They do it by kill, 199 00:11:57,215 --> 00:12:01,765 destroying their nervous system or by destroying their energy production. 200 00:12:01,775 --> 00:12:04,925 Those are the two main ways we do it. Well, all, 201 00:12:05,265 --> 00:12:08,645 all creatures on the planet have a lot of biochemistry in common. 202 00:12:09,305 --> 00:12:12,445 So if you take something that kills a rat, 203 00:12:13,235 --> 00:12:16,885 there's a really good chance that it's gonna be poisonous to you as well. 204 00:12:18,105 --> 00:12:21,925 And if even if you have a pesticide that is a, a, uh, 205 00:12:22,265 --> 00:12:24,165 for killing weeds, 206 00:12:24,875 --> 00:12:29,805 there's a good chance that that weed killer is gonna be bad for you 207 00:12:29,905 --> 00:12:31,165 as well. Mm-Hmm. 208 00:12:31,205 --> 00:12:33,205 , the indigenous peoples understood this, 209 00:12:33,205 --> 00:12:36,765 which is why they planted particular crops in tandem with each other. 210 00:12:37,265 --> 00:12:40,325 So that one plant would make sure the weeds didn't grow. 211 00:12:40,635 --> 00:12:43,205 Another plant would feed the lower plant, 212 00:12:43,205 --> 00:12:45,125 another plant that would get the sun for everybody. 213 00:12:45,185 --> 00:12:48,325 Or maybe one plant would get everybody's water supply. Yeah. 214 00:12:48,325 --> 00:12:49,965 And they worked much in tandem. 215 00:12:50,315 --> 00:12:53,365 Yeah. Well, in fact, in fact in nature, everything, 216 00:12:54,015 --> 00:12:58,965 everything lives together. You know, including 10, you know, bacteria, 217 00:12:59,145 --> 00:13:02,685 you know, that bacteria make up 10% of all the biomass on the planet. 218 00:13:03,195 --> 00:13:04,045 Doesn't surprise me. 219 00:13:04,505 --> 00:13:08,245 And human beings all together only make up 0.1%. 220 00:13:08,705 --> 00:13:13,565 So there's a hundred times more bacteria biomass than human biomass 221 00:13:13,745 --> 00:13:17,845 on this planet. You think you can clorox all of those bacteria to death? 222 00:13:18,665 --> 00:13:22,935 Nah, don't even try. So you wash your hands, you know, and you don't, 223 00:13:23,595 --> 00:13:27,095 you know, stick it in the ground and then stick it in your nose or whatever. 224 00:13:27,105 --> 00:13:29,455 Right? So you, you do some hygiene, 225 00:13:30,455 --> 00:13:35,115 but you gotta understand you need to make your immune system so strong 226 00:13:36,425 --> 00:13:39,285 and you do that because it's made out of food, water, air, 227 00:13:39,745 --> 00:13:42,885 air and light to strike the rest of the body. So if you live, 228 00:13:42,885 --> 00:13:45,765 live aligned with nature and eat aligned with nature, 229 00:13:46,975 --> 00:13:51,945 then you have a pretty good chance of having an immune system that can 230 00:13:52,255 --> 00:13:56,645 keep you healthy in the midst of nature. But that's not what we do. 231 00:13:57,205 --> 00:13:58,605 I got poisoned by pesticides. 232 00:13:58,645 --> 00:14:02,285 I was looking for self-help and I looked at everything. 233 00:14:02,345 --> 00:14:06,045 It was everything to do with health and disease, uh, nutrition and health, 234 00:14:06,045 --> 00:14:06,965 nutrition and disease. 235 00:14:09,325 --> 00:14:14,325 And got stuck on oils because that was the most confusing 236 00:14:14,355 --> 00:14:17,085 area. There were lots of studies I that I was reading, 237 00:14:17,105 --> 00:14:21,125 but I read one study and says Omega six is an essential fatty acid. 238 00:14:22,325 --> 00:14:26,865 And essential fatty acid is defined as like essential nutrient is defined as 239 00:14:27,485 --> 00:14:31,345 in any nutrient that you have to have to live and be healthy, 240 00:14:32,675 --> 00:14:36,895 but cannot make in your own body and therefore have to bring in from outside. 241 00:14:37,835 --> 00:14:41,655 That's the first part. The second part is if you don't get enough of any, 242 00:14:41,715 --> 00:14:46,455 any essential nutrient, you cannot stay healthy. Your health will deteriorate, 243 00:14:46,715 --> 00:14:51,525 you will get deficiency symptoms. Those symptoms are degenerative in nature, 244 00:14:51,655 --> 00:14:53,565 which just means your body's falling apart. 245 00:14:54,305 --> 00:14:58,285 And if you don't get enough of any essential nutrient long enough, 246 00:14:58,945 --> 00:14:59,778 you die. 247 00:15:00,095 --> 00:15:05,085 These are the essential building blocks for c body construction, 248 00:15:05,315 --> 00:15:08,095 maintenance, and repair. Okay? 249 00:15:09,555 --> 00:15:12,775 And then the third part of the definition is if you're deteriorating, 250 00:15:13,015 --> 00:15:16,575 'cause you're not getting enough of an essential nutrient, but before you die, 251 00:15:16,575 --> 00:15:19,135 you bring enough back into the, into your body, 252 00:15:19,885 --> 00:15:23,135 then all the problems that come from not getting enough are reversed. 253 00:15:24,445 --> 00:15:28,985 And that's because life knows how to make a body using your genetic material, 254 00:15:30,505 --> 00:15:35,415 provided you take responsibility at your mouth to make sure that 255 00:15:35,725 --> 00:15:40,575 optimum amounts of the 42 essential nutrients land in your body. 256 00:15:40,885 --> 00:15:43,895 Because life has to have them to build that body. 257 00:15:44,555 --> 00:15:47,335 And those 42 18 minerals, 13 vitamins, 258 00:15:48,715 --> 00:15:52,845 nine essential amino acids that come from protein and two essential fatty acids 259 00:15:52,955 --> 00:15:55,045 that come from fats, from come from oils. 260 00:15:55,345 --> 00:15:57,845 So the study says omega six is essential. 261 00:15:57,845 --> 00:16:00,525 Omega six linoleic acid is an essential nutrient. 262 00:16:00,745 --> 00:16:04,605 You have to have it to live and be healthy. And the very next study I read said, 263 00:16:05,415 --> 00:16:09,445 alpha linoleic acid Omega six gives you cancer and kills you. 264 00:16:10,635 --> 00:16:14,295 And what do you think happened? ? Uh, uh, uh, uh, 265 00:16:14,515 --> 00:16:18,335 my head exploded like, how the hell can this happen? 266 00:16:19,055 --> 00:16:21,855 I have to have it to be healthy and then it gives me cancer and kills me. 267 00:16:22,315 --> 00:16:27,215 And I was like, first I sat there and was like, uh, what judge, 268 00:16:27,635 --> 00:16:30,255 you know, , I mean, and then was like, okay, 269 00:16:30,255 --> 00:16:33,215 there must be something else missing. There must be something missing. 270 00:16:34,425 --> 00:16:39,165 So that forced me to look deeper into how oils are made. 271 00:16:40,035 --> 00:16:44,455 And what I found out is, and what oils are made, the way industry makes oils, 272 00:16:45,125 --> 00:16:49,495 they press the oil out or they dissolve it out with solvents depending. 273 00:16:50,155 --> 00:16:53,375 And then they treat the oil with sodium hydroxide, 274 00:16:53,415 --> 00:16:57,125 a very corrosive base then with phosphoric acid, 275 00:16:57,325 --> 00:16:58,645 a very corrosive acid, 276 00:16:59,315 --> 00:17:02,805 then with bleaching clays with to take out the color molecules. 277 00:17:02,965 --> 00:17:07,885 'cause they attract light, which damages the oil. And then the oil goes rancid. 278 00:17:07,885 --> 00:17:11,285 And now they have to deodorize it to get the stink off. 279 00:17:12,095 --> 00:17:15,315 And they have to heat a tough frying temperature to get that done. 280 00:17:16,415 --> 00:17:20,195 And in that processing, you end up with a colorless, odorless, tasteless oil, 281 00:17:21,335 --> 00:17:26,075 but you also end up with about half to 1% of the 282 00:17:26,315 --> 00:17:31,245 molecules of the oil being damaged by that processing. On top of it, 283 00:17:31,245 --> 00:17:33,765 you'll have pesticides in it because they don't, 284 00:17:33,765 --> 00:17:36,125 they they don't use organically grown seeds. 285 00:17:36,305 --> 00:17:39,925 And you get plastic in the oil because they put it in plastic bottles and 286 00:17:39,925 --> 00:17:41,965 plastic swells when you put oil in it. 287 00:17:42,145 --> 00:17:44,965 And then plastic leeches into oil quicker than into water. 288 00:17:45,405 --> 00:17:49,685 I didn't know any of that stuff. So 1% half to 1% damage. 289 00:17:50,345 --> 00:17:52,845 And I thought, well that can't be good. 290 00:17:53,545 --> 00:17:58,325 So I called the oil chemist society and I said, I want to talk to a researcher. 291 00:17:59,215 --> 00:18:01,955 And they said, okay, we'll put, put a researcher on the line. 292 00:18:01,955 --> 00:18:03,915 They put 'em on the line. And I said, 293 00:18:04,135 --> 00:18:09,075 so when you know that the processing you do to oils damages them, 294 00:18:10,015 --> 00:18:13,675 why do you do that? And he said, well, 295 00:18:13,675 --> 00:18:16,995 one of the reasons we do that is because we can get rid of half of the 296 00:18:16,995 --> 00:18:20,915 pesticides in the oil by deodorizing it at frying temperature. 297 00:18:21,055 --> 00:18:23,475 He didn't say frying temperature by deodorizing it. Right? 298 00:18:24,035 --> 00:18:28,675 I didn't know there were pesticides in oils. So in my head I'm saying, oh, 299 00:18:28,695 --> 00:18:32,755 you mean the other 50% stay in the oil? I just said in my head, 300 00:18:32,795 --> 00:18:33,955 I didn't tell say that to him. 301 00:18:34,895 --> 00:18:37,515 And that wasn't good 'cause I'd been poisoned by pesticides. Right? 302 00:18:37,615 --> 00:18:42,595 So this is , this was not a good answer for me. So I said to him, well, 303 00:18:42,595 --> 00:18:44,755 why don't you start with organically grown seeds? 304 00:18:46,045 --> 00:18:50,785 And I got this long silence at the other end of the phone. And I waited. 305 00:18:51,695 --> 00:18:54,545 When he got back, he was, he was mad. He said, 306 00:18:54,905 --> 00:18:59,785 I don't know what your problem is. The oil is only 1% damaged and it's 99% good. 307 00:19:00,445 --> 00:19:05,305 And if you got 99% on an exam, you'd be damn happy, wouldn't you? 308 00:19:06,345 --> 00:19:11,345 I got 99.5% on my pesticide sprays exam and 309 00:19:11,385 --> 00:19:14,185 I used to get a hundred percent in genetics, sometimes . 310 00:19:14,685 --> 00:19:17,945 So I wasn't impressed with the nine nine. But then I backed off. I said, well, 311 00:19:17,945 --> 00:19:22,665 maybe I'm overreacting. It's only 1%. So there's a saying, 312 00:19:22,695 --> 00:19:27,315 when in doubt, do the math. So I decided, okay, 313 00:19:27,655 --> 00:19:31,115 if I have a tablespoon of an oil that is treated like they do 314 00:19:32,515 --> 00:19:33,855 and is 1% damaged, 315 00:19:34,755 --> 00:19:37,615 how many damaged molecules would I find in that oil? 316 00:19:39,435 --> 00:19:42,575 And I'm asking you that question 'cause I want you to answer it because you'll 317 00:19:42,575 --> 00:19:43,775 see why, why I'm doing that. 318 00:19:44,035 --> 00:19:47,415 And of course it's hard to do that because you don't know how big molecules are 319 00:19:47,415 --> 00:19:50,535 and all that. But give it a shot. How many molecules, 320 00:19:50,595 --> 00:19:55,135 how many damaged molecules will there be in a tablespoon of oil that is 1% 321 00:19:55,135 --> 00:19:55,968 damaged? 322 00:19:56,835 --> 00:20:01,815 I'm gonna go with, let's say I feel like it's a lot. A million, 323 00:20:02,395 --> 00:20:03,005 2 million. 324 00:20:03,005 --> 00:20:06,975 Okay. Million. Okay, that's good. Uh, perfect. It's perfect. 325 00:20:07,115 --> 00:20:10,415 Now here's the thing, A million has six zeroes on it, right? 326 00:20:10,755 --> 00:20:13,095 So it's actually 60 quintillion. 327 00:20:13,635 --> 00:20:14,468 That's a lot. 328 00:20:14,875 --> 00:20:17,335 So quintillion 60 quintillion is a, 329 00:20:17,355 --> 00:20:19,895 is a six followed by 19 zeroes. 330 00:20:20,635 --> 00:20:24,095 So subtract six and you have a zero, 331 00:20:24,375 --> 00:20:27,135 a six followed by 13 zeroes. 332 00:20:28,045 --> 00:20:32,025 If it was 12 zeroes, if it was 12 zeroes, it would be 333 00:20:35,085 --> 00:20:35,918 a trillion. 334 00:20:37,795 --> 00:20:41,455 This is six followed by 13. 335 00:20:41,635 --> 00:20:45,705 So you have got 60 trillion. So no. 336 00:20:45,705 --> 00:20:49,365 So your estimate is 60 trillion times too low 337 00:20:50,935 --> 00:20:55,335 so that when people use these oils, they, 338 00:20:55,555 --> 00:20:59,465 and they have a guess like you did. They think 339 00:21:01,065 --> 00:21:05,805 it is 60 trillion times safer than it actually is. Hmm. 340 00:21:06,215 --> 00:21:07,048 Right? 341 00:21:07,635 --> 00:21:12,325 They're doing 60 trillion times more damage to themselves by using these 342 00:21:12,395 --> 00:21:16,105 oils. Mm-Hmm than they think they're doing. Mm-Hmm , 343 00:21:16,105 --> 00:21:19,545 that's why I do it because you say, wow, I had no idea. 344 00:21:19,605 --> 00:21:24,345 So how much is 60 quintillion molecules in one tablespoon you get 345 00:21:24,445 --> 00:21:29,145 enough damaged molecules to get more than a million damaged molecules 346 00:21:30,165 --> 00:21:33,025 for every one of your body's 60 trillion cells, 347 00:21:35,235 --> 00:21:37,395 a million damaged molecules tablespoon. 348 00:21:37,615 --> 00:21:42,155 But we two usually use two or two to four a day. So you gotta multiply that in. 349 00:21:42,295 --> 00:21:45,955 You got the pesticides, you got the plastic. Um, 350 00:21:47,865 --> 00:21:51,325 we use 'em for frying. When you fry oils, 351 00:21:52,105 --> 00:21:55,885 you probably damage them three to six times more than they're already damaged. 352 00:21:56,465 --> 00:21:59,645 So you gotta multiply that in. And if you do that for 30 years, 353 00:21:59,985 --> 00:22:04,445 you have to multiply the number that you just came up with by 354 00:22:05,225 --> 00:22:09,085 10,000 times. 'cause there's about 10,000 days in 30 years. 355 00:22:10,845 --> 00:22:15,425 That's astronomical numbers of unnatural toxic molecules 356 00:22:15,775 --> 00:22:18,945 that we are feeding ourselves on a daily basis. 357 00:22:19,965 --> 00:22:24,545 And more health problems come from damaged oils than any other part in 358 00:22:24,545 --> 00:22:25,378 nutrition. 359 00:22:26,085 --> 00:22:31,045 And more health benefits will come from oils. If we do, 360 00:22:31,105 --> 00:22:35,325 if we give the body the oil change it needs from the dirty oils out to clean 361 00:22:35,435 --> 00:22:39,005 oils in and out of that calculation, I said, you know what? 362 00:22:39,085 --> 00:22:41,205 I can't get healthy on dirty oils like this. 363 00:22:41,825 --> 00:22:45,445 We should make them with health in mind. And how do you do that? 364 00:22:46,635 --> 00:22:50,565 Oils are very sensitive to damage by light, by oxygen and by heat. 365 00:22:50,585 --> 00:22:52,965 So you have to create a pressing, 366 00:22:53,365 --> 00:22:58,085 pressing system that is super tight. So no light, no oxygen, 367 00:22:58,705 --> 00:23:02,565 and only low temperature. Get to the oil while it's being pressed, 368 00:23:02,565 --> 00:23:06,005 while it's being filtered, while it's being settled and while it's being filled. 369 00:23:07,105 --> 00:23:10,765 And then when you take, and then you keep it refrigerated in the factory, 370 00:23:11,695 --> 00:23:15,425 they ship it to the stores, they keep it refrigerated. You take it home, 371 00:23:15,565 --> 00:23:16,705 you keep it refrigerated. 372 00:23:17,365 --> 00:23:22,185 And then you use that oil that you're keeping in the refrigerator on foods 373 00:23:23,115 --> 00:23:27,425 after they come off the heat source. And you never ever, ever, ever, 374 00:23:27,455 --> 00:23:28,945 ever use the oil for frying. 375 00:23:30,495 --> 00:23:34,685 And then the oil is in, remains in its natural state. 376 00:23:35,025 --> 00:23:37,045 You get omega three and omega six, 377 00:23:37,155 --> 00:23:40,285 both of which are essential by the definition already gave. 378 00:23:40,905 --> 00:23:44,685 And then you have to get them in the right ratio because they compete in the 379 00:23:44,685 --> 00:23:47,565 body. And if you get too much of one, it crowds out the other. 380 00:23:47,985 --> 00:23:50,245 If you get too much of the other, it crowds out the one. 381 00:23:51,255 --> 00:23:54,435 So you have to get the right. And then you, 382 00:23:54,855 --> 00:23:58,275 you take that oil and you add it to food, you always add it to food. 383 00:23:58,765 --> 00:24:03,675 Could be shakes, could be, uh, smoothies, could be uh, 384 00:24:03,875 --> 00:24:08,315 mashed potatoes, could be pasta sauce, could be steamed veggies. 385 00:24:10,055 --> 00:24:11,955 And they're compatible with all foods. 386 00:24:13,325 --> 00:24:17,185 And you wanna get a tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight per day. 387 00:24:17,645 --> 00:24:19,825 That's why two to four tablespoons for most people. 388 00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:23,145 And you get enough ballpark, 389 00:24:23,145 --> 00:24:27,705 that's the enough to make your skin soft and velvety because omega three and six 390 00:24:27,735 --> 00:24:30,345 form a barrier in the skin against the loss of moisture. 391 00:24:30,805 --> 00:24:33,505 And if you have dry skin, you need more good oils. 392 00:24:33,885 --> 00:24:35,625 And which kind of oil specifically? 393 00:24:36,455 --> 00:24:39,825 Well, we started with flax oil because that's the richest source of omega three 394 00:24:41,415 --> 00:24:42,248 commonly available. 395 00:24:42,635 --> 00:24:45,015 You are the inventor of that. Am I correct? 396 00:24:45,295 --> 00:24:48,975 I I developed a machinery and that for making oils with health in mind. 397 00:24:49,195 --> 00:24:53,815 And flax oil was the first oil we developed in 1986 and 398 00:24:54,055 --> 00:24:56,535 19 and o so has a lot of omega threes. 399 00:24:57,195 --> 00:25:02,195 And 99% of the population is not getting enough omega 400 00:25:02,195 --> 00:25:05,075 threes for optimum health. And every cell requires it. 401 00:25:05,575 --> 00:25:10,075 Is it, is that, is it essential to do it as an oil or if people, 402 00:25:10,235 --> 00:25:13,875 I know a lot of people eat flax seeds that are still seed form. 403 00:25:14,825 --> 00:25:18,755 Yeah, well if you, if you just swallow the seeds without chewing them up, 404 00:25:18,985 --> 00:25:22,355 they will literally go through your body and you can plant them and they'll 405 00:25:22,355 --> 00:25:26,875 still grow because they have a very hard covering on them because the seed is 406 00:25:26,875 --> 00:25:27,875 not there to feed you. 407 00:25:29,085 --> 00:25:33,385 The seed is there to make another flex plant. So then you have to, 408 00:25:33,385 --> 00:25:37,025 you have to chew 'em up or blend them up or do something if you wanna get the 409 00:25:37,025 --> 00:25:41,785 nutrition. But there's another issue. People say to me, well, you know, 410 00:25:41,785 --> 00:25:46,385 why don't you just use whole foods because nature's, you know, 411 00:25:46,385 --> 00:25:50,105 that's how nature did it. And of course it's how that is how nature did it. 412 00:25:50,445 --> 00:25:55,345 And so I asked the question is na is Optimum Health Nature mandate? 413 00:25:55,535 --> 00:26:00,345 Because if Optimum Health is nature's mandate than just eating 414 00:26:00,345 --> 00:26:02,505 whole foods would gut your optimum health. 415 00:26:04,205 --> 00:26:07,905 But I'm not sure that that's true. Because here's, here's what nature does. 416 00:26:08,445 --> 00:26:10,785 Nature wants you healthy enough to grow up 417 00:26:12,505 --> 00:26:17,395 once you healthy enough to be able to reproduce once you healthy enough so you 418 00:26:17,395 --> 00:26:21,035 can take care of your kids until your kids don't need you anymore. 419 00:26:21,455 --> 00:26:25,125 And then neither does nature. And so then when your kids are grown, 420 00:26:25,155 --> 00:26:27,805 like if you're, if you didn't live in a civilized place, 421 00:26:27,905 --> 00:26:30,885 you were just hanging out, you'd probably have your kid, 422 00:26:31,155 --> 00:26:35,965 your your first kid when your 14, 15 maybe maybe 20. 423 00:26:36,425 --> 00:26:38,005 If you're, if you're slow, right, 424 00:26:38,905 --> 00:26:41,285 by the time the kids are grown and don't need you anymore, 425 00:26:41,285 --> 00:26:45,645 you're 40 and then nature will recycle you. Well, how would you, 426 00:26:45,705 --> 00:26:46,845 how would nature do that? 427 00:26:47,425 --> 00:26:52,125 You should never be optimally healthy because if you're optimally healthy, 428 00:26:52,345 --> 00:26:56,925 you'll, you'll live longer. But if nature wants to recycle you at 40, 429 00:26:56,955 --> 00:26:58,205 then it's best to keep you 430 00:26:59,825 --> 00:27:03,535 suboptimally healthy or minimally healthy. 431 00:27:03,965 --> 00:27:06,335 Because then when it's time to re you know, your, 432 00:27:06,525 --> 00:27:09,735 your machinery slows down in your body as you get older. 433 00:27:10,075 --> 00:27:14,615 So by the time you hit 40, 45, it's recycling time. So, 434 00:27:14,635 --> 00:27:17,175 but I wanted to test it because that's just a theory. 435 00:27:17,675 --> 00:27:21,935 So what I did is I took seeds and nuts and I, 436 00:27:22,075 --> 00:27:26,415 by this time I was working with the blend because some flexe oil made me omega 437 00:27:26,635 --> 00:27:28,695 six deficient because it's poorly balanced, 438 00:27:29,475 --> 00:27:31,855 has four times more omega three than omega six. 439 00:27:32,395 --> 00:27:36,935 And that crowds up the omega sixes. So I got dry eyes, skipped heartbeats, 440 00:27:36,935 --> 00:27:37,485 arthritis, 441 00:27:37,485 --> 00:27:42,415 like pain in my finger joints and tin papery skin fixed it by eating sunflower 442 00:27:42,415 --> 00:27:45,815 seed, which have only omega sixes and no omega threes. 443 00:27:46,035 --> 00:27:49,175 So I brought the balance back, symptoms went away. Can you. 444 00:27:49,175 --> 00:27:50,175 Eat them at the same time? 445 00:27:51,125 --> 00:27:55,415 Yeah. Well then, then we made a blend because I'm trying to get people healthy. 446 00:27:55,715 --> 00:27:58,695 You know, my big, my big inspiration was, oh my God, 447 00:27:58,695 --> 00:28:02,935 if we could bring omega threes back into people's diets and they weren't damaged 448 00:28:03,035 --> 00:28:07,255 by light, oxygen or heat, oh my god, we could help almost everybody. 449 00:28:07,475 --> 00:28:09,855 And you know, it feels really good in the heart when you help. 450 00:28:10,005 --> 00:28:12,855 Helping is like very satisfying, right? 451 00:28:13,275 --> 00:28:17,615 It doesn't satisfy you if you haven't done your homework to know how to get, 452 00:28:17,995 --> 00:28:21,575 get there. But once you've done that, helping is the thing that makes, 453 00:28:21,665 --> 00:28:25,735 makes you shine. Helping is, makes, makes is what makes you happy, right? 454 00:28:26,075 --> 00:28:30,015 We talked about on the last one, right? So I was totally inspired to do that. 455 00:28:30,715 --> 00:28:32,535 And then it became Omega 60 fish. 456 00:28:32,535 --> 00:28:36,425 And that's why we did developed a blend because we got, 457 00:28:36,425 --> 00:28:41,265 it had to get the ratio right. So we mixed flax, sunflower, 458 00:28:41,545 --> 00:28:46,375 sesame, evening promos, oil, rice germ, 459 00:28:46,435 --> 00:28:47,655 oat germ, coconut, 460 00:28:47,975 --> 00:28:52,655 a little bit of coconut lesser than vitamin E and made a blend that has 461 00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:57,535 everything in it that you need. Nothing you should avoid in the right ratio. 462 00:28:57,835 --> 00:29:02,295 All organic made with health in mind. And so we started working with the blend. 463 00:29:02,815 --> 00:29:07,735 I decided to see if I could get optimum health from just 464 00:29:07,735 --> 00:29:08,935 eating seeds and nuts. 465 00:29:09,875 --> 00:29:12,895 And I was in California and it was summer. 466 00:29:13,235 --> 00:29:16,135 You need less in oil in summer than in winter. 467 00:29:16,655 --> 00:29:20,295 I use four tablespoons in winter and only two or three in summer. 468 00:29:20,855 --> 00:29:24,495 'cause in winter you burn more of it to create heat to, to keep you warm. 469 00:29:26,155 --> 00:29:27,815 So I was in summer in California, 470 00:29:28,015 --> 00:29:32,855 I used five tablespoons of flax and three tablespoons of 471 00:29:33,205 --> 00:29:37,855 sunflower and sesame to get the same ratio as the ratio we have in the blend. 472 00:29:39,475 --> 00:29:41,845 And I couldn't eat more than that because flax 473 00:29:43,645 --> 00:29:47,445 absorbed six times its weight in water. So it super swells up. 474 00:29:47,985 --> 00:29:51,085 So my five tablespoons became 30 tablespoons. 475 00:29:51,625 --> 00:29:56,565 So I was doing 33 tablespoons of seeds to get my omega 476 00:29:56,565 --> 00:29:59,405 threes and sixes. And the ratio was the same. 477 00:30:00,265 --> 00:30:03,965 And even in summer when I need less oil, I could not get my skin, 478 00:30:05,855 --> 00:30:07,575 I could not keep my skin from drying up. 479 00:30:08,705 --> 00:30:10,965 And so my answer to that question was, 480 00:30:11,155 --> 00:30:14,085 because it's a great question and everybody asked it, 481 00:30:14,625 --> 00:30:18,125 my answer to that question was, I can't do it on seeds alone. 482 00:30:18,795 --> 00:30:20,245 Some people may be able to, 483 00:30:21,345 --> 00:30:25,445 and some people can't even do it with the oil because they're high metabolizers 484 00:30:25,745 --> 00:30:28,325 and they burn the oil before it makes it to the skin. 485 00:30:28,585 --> 00:30:32,325 And those people may actually need to put some coconut oil on their skin from 486 00:30:32,325 --> 00:30:34,125 the outside. That's maybe, probably, 487 00:30:34,965 --> 00:30:39,045 I guess two to 5% of the population are high metabolizers like that. 488 00:30:39,265 --> 00:30:40,565 How do you know if you're one of those? 489 00:30:41,835 --> 00:30:45,525 Well, you take tablespoon per 50 and if your skin keeps being dry, 490 00:30:46,735 --> 00:30:51,695 then you, then you use coconut. Now I, when we started, we were in the, 491 00:30:51,795 --> 00:30:56,095 in the height of low fat diets. Everybody's on low fat diets. 492 00:30:56,095 --> 00:31:00,935 So I went to the Vegetarian International Society and gave a talk there 493 00:31:02,655 --> 00:31:07,115 in Vegas. And so I got on stage and I said, so how many of your, 494 00:31:07,935 --> 00:31:12,475 uh, are how many of your plant completely plant-based? All the hands went up. 495 00:31:13,175 --> 00:31:17,855 And I said, how many of you have dry skin? All the hands went up. And I said, 496 00:31:18,085 --> 00:31:18,435 okay. 497 00:31:18,435 --> 00:31:22,655 So there's something to be said for eating plants or eating more plant-based. 498 00:31:23,755 --> 00:31:28,015 But the mistake you are making in your plant-based diet is you are not getting 499 00:31:28,115 --> 00:31:31,295 enough oil. That's why your skin is dry. 500 00:31:31,425 --> 00:31:36,055 Shows up in the desert more than in humid climates shows up in winter more than 501 00:31:36,055 --> 00:31:40,695 in summer when your skin is dry, you need more of the right kind of oil. 502 00:31:41,195 --> 00:31:45,895 And the omega three and six together form a barrier in the skin against the loss 503 00:31:45,895 --> 00:31:50,805 of moisture and skin gets some last and loses 'em first because 504 00:31:50,825 --> 00:31:54,405 the inner organs get priority on it. Because you can live with di dry skin, 505 00:31:54,985 --> 00:31:58,765 but you can't live with a dried out heart or dried out liver. So liver, 506 00:31:58,875 --> 00:32:03,125 they get priority on 'em when it makes it to the skin and your skin is soft and 507 00:32:03,245 --> 00:32:06,125 velvety, you know that the rest of your body has what it needs. 508 00:32:06,435 --> 00:32:11,285 It's a nice easy way to keep track of it. And it doesn't make your skin greasy, 509 00:32:11,865 --> 00:32:15,085 but it makes a velvety because the oils, the, the, 510 00:32:15,145 --> 00:32:19,885 the essential fatty acids kind of set keeps pushing away from each other. 511 00:32:21,715 --> 00:32:24,295 Did people think you were nuts? No pun intended. 512 00:32:24,735 --> 00:32:29,495 ? Oh, people still think I'm nuts. . Wait, when I did that? No, 513 00:32:29,495 --> 00:32:33,775 I says, but you know what, this is an experiment. The body is an experiment. 514 00:32:33,775 --> 00:32:35,175 The body is the laboratory. 515 00:32:35,615 --> 00:32:39,205 I can do things to it and it'll change and I'll get symptoms. 516 00:32:39,275 --> 00:32:42,525 Just like if you eat junk food, you're gonna end up with a junk body. 517 00:32:43,145 --> 00:32:44,485 If you do everything right, 518 00:32:44,485 --> 00:32:48,285 you're gonna have energy and your skin is gonna be good and your brain is gonna 519 00:32:48,285 --> 00:32:51,485 work and you know you're gonna be able, you're gonna be capable. 520 00:32:51,905 --> 00:32:53,125 Here's the laboratory. 521 00:32:54,045 --> 00:32:57,065 I'm gonna do any e any experiment I wanna do. 522 00:32:57,125 --> 00:33:01,155 It doesn't cost me a dime other than for what I put in it. 523 00:33:02,115 --> 00:33:05,055 So I can do an experiment at least for one person. 524 00:33:05,885 --> 00:33:09,495 What does my body tell me? And individ, 525 00:33:09,675 --> 00:33:13,175 in some ways we are different in, in, in, in, not in huge ways, 526 00:33:13,195 --> 00:33:16,335 but in some ways. And so what do you do? 527 00:33:16,355 --> 00:33:19,655 You need to find out what works for your body. 528 00:33:20,155 --> 00:33:25,075 If you can get soft, smooth, velvety skin on whole, 529 00:33:25,255 --> 00:33:30,075 on whole seeds and nuts alone, go for it. I, I eat them too, 530 00:33:30,925 --> 00:33:35,385 but I can't get my skin right. So I use oils on top. Oils on top of that. 531 00:33:36,005 --> 00:33:40,665 My conclusion was, yeah, my idea that, uh, you know, after your kids are grown, 532 00:33:40,805 --> 00:33:44,025 uh, nature would happily recycle you. Uh, 533 00:33:44,205 --> 00:33:48,745 for turns out for me to be true. I'm 81 now, so I'm cheating nature a little. 534 00:33:49,645 --> 00:33:51,585 And in order to do that, I I may, 535 00:33:51,705 --> 00:33:55,865 I have to hydrate some of the essential nutrients that nature makes. 536 00:33:56,135 --> 00:33:57,585 They're still essential nutrients. 537 00:33:58,685 --> 00:34:01,945 And the oil that you make through your company is, yeah, 538 00:34:02,545 --> 00:34:06,105 I believe I may be incorrect here, but it's the number one in the world, 539 00:34:06,245 --> 00:34:07,078 is it not? 540 00:34:07,595 --> 00:34:09,195 Nobody's doing what we're doing. Yeah. 541 00:34:09,335 --> 00:34:10,168 That's what I thought. 542 00:34:10,225 --> 00:34:13,755 Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, because why? It's because my brainchild, you know, 543 00:34:13,755 --> 00:34:16,115 it was my obsession that created all that. 544 00:34:16,605 --> 00:34:18,955 There are people who didn't make flax oil. 545 00:34:19,345 --> 00:34:22,595 They never got further than I did because it wasn't their obsession. 546 00:34:22,785 --> 00:34:26,315 They were just selling stuff. Right. And they put it in plastic bottles. 547 00:34:26,315 --> 00:34:29,995 Really dumb idea. I, we started in plastic when I, 548 00:34:30,075 --> 00:34:34,875 I found out that oil swell plastic and then plastic leeches into oil. 549 00:34:35,425 --> 00:34:38,955 It's in the encyclopedia of plastics. That's where I found it. 550 00:34:39,355 --> 00:34:43,115 I told all the people who were making flax oil and they all learned from me. 551 00:34:43,835 --> 00:34:48,235 I told 'em, change the glass because plastic leeches into oils. 552 00:34:48,705 --> 00:34:53,635 None of them would do it because plastic is cheaper and easier to work with. 553 00:34:54,215 --> 00:34:54,735 My, yeah, 554 00:34:54,735 --> 00:34:59,715 all my bal balsamics and all my avocado oil and my olive oil, 555 00:34:59,915 --> 00:35:01,515 I I only buy glass. 556 00:35:02,185 --> 00:35:04,155 Yeah, yeah. Oil belongs and glass. 557 00:35:05,015 --> 00:35:06,475 And dark glass as well. 558 00:35:07,065 --> 00:35:10,355 Yeah. Dark glass. And then we put a box around it to keep the light out. 559 00:35:10,355 --> 00:35:14,075 So nobody wanted to do that either. 'cause that's, again, it's more, it's more, 560 00:35:14,905 --> 00:35:18,255 it's more work and it's more expensive. 561 00:35:19,295 --> 00:35:23,865 But you actually get something that isn't damaged. See, 562 00:35:23,865 --> 00:35:26,865 and you can tell by whether they package in glass or plastic, 563 00:35:26,865 --> 00:35:30,845 whether they actually care about health or environment. We're, 564 00:35:30,845 --> 00:35:35,445 we're the only guys in glass and we're the only ones who have a, the ratio, 565 00:35:36,105 --> 00:35:38,435 you know, people co tried to copy it, 566 00:35:38,455 --> 00:35:41,475 but they didn't know the ratio and then they didn't know. 567 00:35:41,475 --> 00:35:46,035 Because different people think different ratios are, are better. But I, 568 00:35:46,185 --> 00:35:49,235 I've been working with people and getting the feedback for 40 years. 569 00:35:49,715 --> 00:35:51,395 I know more about it than anybody on the planet. 570 00:35:52,055 --> 00:35:54,825 And we use a ratio that's higher in omega three. 571 00:35:55,485 --> 00:35:58,585 That's not what the researchers say. But the researchers aren't, 572 00:35:58,585 --> 00:36:02,225 aren't talking to real people. They're doing experiments in laboratories. 573 00:36:02,765 --> 00:36:05,825 So some of them say four times more Omega six in omega three, 574 00:36:06,205 --> 00:36:10,425 you do not get the results we get with our, our richer in omega three. 575 00:36:11,005 --> 00:36:12,945 And then we did some studies with athletes. 576 00:36:12,945 --> 00:36:17,225 They never got published because we weren't affiliated with the university. 577 00:36:17,535 --> 00:36:22,125 When people took a tablespoon per 50 pounds of body weight per day of 578 00:36:22,375 --> 00:36:26,125 Udo's oil mixed in food and intake spread out over the course of the day, 579 00:36:26,665 --> 00:36:30,885 how we recommend to take it within a month, within 30 days, 580 00:36:31,585 --> 00:36:33,845 if they did their sport to exhaustion, 581 00:36:35,415 --> 00:36:39,625 they had 40 to 60% more bigger, longer performance, 582 00:36:40,665 --> 00:36:42,755 more stamina, more better performance. 583 00:36:42,965 --> 00:36:46,755 40 to 60% just by changing the oil. 584 00:36:47,225 --> 00:36:51,355 When you took it to market. Was it hard to convince the grocery, 585 00:36:52,015 --> 00:36:53,635 uh, year in Whole Foods? I know, 586 00:36:53,635 --> 00:36:57,075 but was it hard to convince those people to carry it? 587 00:36:57,145 --> 00:36:59,235 Because I imagine it would cost a little more. 588 00:36:59,825 --> 00:37:04,595 When we started, we were, we were, uh, doing flax soil and how that No, 589 00:37:04,595 --> 00:37:08,035 what happened was we, when I, when I realized, oh my god, 590 00:37:08,155 --> 00:37:11,595 I could help so many people, I just got so lit up. 591 00:37:12,245 --> 00:37:16,515 There was so much enthusiasm and juice and energy. I mean, we, 592 00:37:16,615 --> 00:37:21,315 we did a tour in a van without air conditioning in the hottest months of the 593 00:37:21,315 --> 00:37:24,955 year in the United States. I slept on the floor of the van. 594 00:37:25,795 --> 00:37:26,628 We had our, 595 00:37:27,355 --> 00:37:31,255 our clothes on a broomstick inside the double doors. 596 00:37:32,695 --> 00:37:35,995 And we basically worked all day and then drove all night. 597 00:37:36,535 --> 00:37:38,755 We were just so on fire. And you know what, 598 00:37:39,215 --> 00:37:43,035 it was the enthusiasm that that carried that through. In two years, 599 00:37:43,225 --> 00:37:46,515 flax oil became the second highest selling oil in the health food trade where we 600 00:37:46,515 --> 00:37:51,515 were working. And no, everybody wanted, you know, nobody said, oh, 601 00:37:51,535 --> 00:37:55,515 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody wanted to carry the oil, 602 00:37:56,305 --> 00:37:59,955 everybody. 'cause there was so much juice and it just became a huge buzz. 603 00:38:00,705 --> 00:38:02,835 Then everybody wanted to, then we would say, well, 604 00:38:02,835 --> 00:38:05,875 do you have refrigeration in your, in your storage? 605 00:38:06,985 --> 00:38:07,885 If they said yes, 606 00:38:08,085 --> 00:38:11,485 I would hand 'em to the guy who did the deals to see if they could make a deal. 607 00:38:12,345 --> 00:38:17,275 If they said no, I'd say, are you willing to bring it in? If they said yes, 608 00:38:17,415 --> 00:38:21,715 I'd say, well, call us when you have it. And if they said no, I would say, 609 00:38:21,715 --> 00:38:23,235 this is a good time to end the interview. 610 00:38:23,415 --> 00:38:27,955 We were not gonna do business with anybody who wasn't willing to take care of 611 00:38:27,955 --> 00:38:30,795 our precious oils. It was wild. I mean, they, they were, 612 00:38:30,815 --> 00:38:35,695 we had lineups for people wanting to carry the oil, oil. 613 00:38:35,695 --> 00:38:39,015 Everybody wanted to carry the oil because everybody was talking about it. 614 00:38:39,115 --> 00:38:43,455 Oh my God. Udo making oils with health in mind. You know, it was like, you know, 615 00:38:43,455 --> 00:38:47,815 and then when the, when the blend came along, you know, it was not a big deal. 616 00:38:47,835 --> 00:38:52,325 It was Udo's oil, , we called it Udo's Oil, right? 617 00:38:53,535 --> 00:38:56,925 Udo's Oil Udo. Oh, Udo. Yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. We want that, we want that. 618 00:38:57,505 --> 00:38:59,485 The buzz started it. 619 00:39:00,695 --> 00:39:04,755 But people consistently saw improvements so regularly 620 00:39:05,465 --> 00:39:08,355 that a lot of the, the marketing was, 621 00:39:08,415 --> 00:39:10,115 was done by people talking to their friends. 622 00:39:10,855 --> 00:39:15,775 And that's the value of taking the time and making the 623 00:39:15,775 --> 00:39:20,655 effort at the front end to create something that is so aligned with nature 624 00:39:21,675 --> 00:39:25,005 that you actually see the results. And, I don't know, 625 00:39:25,125 --> 00:39:27,165 a single nutritional product. 626 00:39:27,425 --> 00:39:31,445 Not any of the 18 minerals or the 13 vitamins, 627 00:39:31,985 --> 00:39:36,645 or the nine essential amino acids except for the 628 00:39:36,655 --> 00:39:41,245 Omega three. Because it's the, the biggest nutrient deficiency of our time. 629 00:39:41,835 --> 00:39:44,085 Most widespread nutrition deficiency of our time. 630 00:39:45,875 --> 00:39:50,195 I've not seen remarkable results like that consistently 631 00:39:50,745 --> 00:39:52,155 with any other nutrient. 632 00:39:54,435 --> 00:39:57,375 Do you have your own orchards or do you source for your nuts? 633 00:39:57,475 --> 00:40:01,055 No, no, no, no. It's so it's sourced. We source it from, uh, 634 00:40:01,405 --> 00:40:05,775 flax from Canada and you can't, you know, uh, we have sesame seed. Well, 635 00:40:05,775 --> 00:40:08,935 that grows in a different climate than flax does. So we go, 636 00:40:08,955 --> 00:40:13,735 go organically grown farms. We have agreements with, uh, with the farmers. 637 00:40:14,715 --> 00:40:19,015 And then we have, we have places like in Canada is flax. Flax is a, 638 00:40:19,035 --> 00:40:23,495 is a northern seed. Omega threes are kind of northern oils. 639 00:40:23,995 --> 00:40:28,935 So we get it from, from Canada. But if Canada has a drought, 640 00:40:29,275 --> 00:40:31,855 we might get it from, uh, Argentina. 641 00:40:33,195 --> 00:40:35,095 Or if it doesn't in Argentina, 642 00:40:35,095 --> 00:40:37,255 there's places in Europe where you can get it as well. 643 00:40:37,835 --> 00:40:42,665 And then the sesame comes from other places, you know, again, and they, 644 00:40:42,685 --> 00:40:47,065 but it's gotta be organic, gotta be certified, you know, they got, 645 00:40:47,085 --> 00:40:51,145 so you have to know the farmers because there are some people who say it's 646 00:40:51,145 --> 00:40:53,305 organic when it's not . You know, so, 647 00:40:53,525 --> 00:40:57,825 so there's always that kind of stuff. And so, and so we get it from everywhere. 648 00:40:57,825 --> 00:40:59,185 And we built the machinery. 649 00:40:59,285 --> 00:41:03,785 We had engineers build the parts to the machinery because no oil, 650 00:41:03,885 --> 00:41:07,745 the oil industry doesn't make those kind of tight systems 651 00:41:08,415 --> 00:41:11,425 because they're more interested in shelf life than they are in health. 652 00:41:12,915 --> 00:41:15,695 And that gives them a big market. And it's a huge industry. 653 00:41:15,695 --> 00:41:20,575 It's a hundred billion dollar industry a year. You know, work relatively small. 654 00:41:20,895 --> 00:41:23,775 I think flax is about a billion dollar a year. 655 00:41:24,535 --> 00:41:27,895 I often wonder about shelf life. Yeah. I think, oh, 656 00:41:27,895 --> 00:41:30,615 well what happens if your product, for example, 657 00:41:30,765 --> 00:41:35,085 sits on the shelf for what you personally would deem too long? 658 00:41:35,265 --> 00:41:40,245 Is there some sort of an agreement that they have to only have it for X amount 659 00:41:40,265 --> 00:41:42,965 of years or days or more? 660 00:41:42,985 --> 00:41:46,605 No. Uh, yeah, there's a one year shelf life. If it's refrigerated and closed, 661 00:41:47,195 --> 00:41:50,245 once you open it, we recommend you use it within eight weeks. 662 00:41:51,215 --> 00:41:55,675 If you want a longer shelf life than a year, freeze it, freeze it, 663 00:41:55,735 --> 00:41:58,895 put it in the freezer. Oil shrinks when you freeze it. 664 00:41:58,915 --> 00:42:03,135 So the bo the bottles won't break, you know, water expands and breaks bottles. 665 00:42:03,475 --> 00:42:06,615 You freeze the oil in the freezer. That's what I do. I get a case at a time, 666 00:42:06,615 --> 00:42:10,695 stick it in the freezer, pull out the bottle I'm using, put it in the fridge, 667 00:42:11,165 --> 00:42:14,415 open it, use it within eight weeks. But if you're using a tea, 668 00:42:14,575 --> 00:42:19,055 a tablespoon or two tablespoons or four tablespoons a day, you, 669 00:42:19,055 --> 00:42:22,935 you go through it through the bottle way quicker than that. Mm-Hmm. 670 00:42:22,975 --> 00:42:23,465 . 671 00:42:23,465 --> 00:42:27,015 Shelf life on all of that. If, if it's in transit longer than two weeks, 672 00:42:27,915 --> 00:42:31,895 it gets shipped. Refrigerated. Like when we ship it to Europe and Asia, 673 00:42:32,365 --> 00:42:37,095 it's shipped refrigerated. It's important. Two weeks maximum. 674 00:42:37,635 --> 00:42:38,495 Non-refrigerated. 675 00:42:38,995 --> 00:42:43,375 I'm very excited to try this for myself as I have not had it before. Yeah. 676 00:42:43,495 --> 00:42:45,415 I eat nuts every day. Yeah. 677 00:42:45,925 --> 00:42:48,095 Play with it. See? Yeah. You, 678 00:42:48,155 --> 00:42:50,335 you might be one of those people who doesn't need oil, 679 00:42:50,435 --> 00:42:53,335 can just do it with nuts alone. I can't, I just, I'm. 680 00:42:53,595 --> 00:42:55,335 Oh no. In the winter, in the winter, 681 00:42:55,615 --> 00:42:59,945 I personally start drying out my fingers crack my lips. Crack. 682 00:43:00,695 --> 00:43:04,905 Yeah. Well, that'll stop. , that'll stop If you take, 683 00:43:04,925 --> 00:43:08,745 if you use enough oil, my fingers used to crack my fingers never crack. 684 00:43:09,405 --> 00:43:13,545 You know, I have nothing. I have no art, arthritis. Oh, here's my fingers. See? 685 00:43:13,815 --> 00:43:16,145 Yeah. Not nothing there. No, no cracks. 686 00:43:17,345 --> 00:43:20,925 And I come from a family of arthritis people, so I'm, I'm only, I mean, 687 00:43:20,985 --> 00:43:25,285 I'm willing to try anything. Yeah. Uh, to preserve health. 688 00:43:26,875 --> 00:43:30,605 Yeah, good idea. Might as well, you know, might as well. 689 00:43:30,685 --> 00:43:32,085 I ain't getting any younger either. I. 690 00:43:32,405 --> 00:43:35,085 I know, I, I know I'm gonna die one day. That's what people say. Oh, 691 00:43:35,205 --> 00:43:37,925 I worry about, oh, you're gonna die anyway. Yeah, yeah. Okay. 692 00:43:37,925 --> 00:43:38,885 But I wanna die healthy. 693 00:43:39,645 --> 00:43:43,765 . Right. My dad always says that as well, why die miserable, die healthy. 694 00:43:43,855 --> 00:43:47,285 Which is, it's, it's a conundrum of course. But I know what he's trying to say. 695 00:43:47,285 --> 00:43:47,685 Yeah. And. 696 00:43:47,685 --> 00:43:51,725 When and when you have pain, you know, the pain is, is a, 697 00:43:51,745 --> 00:43:54,125 the pain is your friend. It's trying to tell you something. 698 00:43:54,475 --> 00:43:57,565 Something needs to be different here. It doesn't tell you what it is. 699 00:43:58,705 --> 00:44:02,565 So then you have to mess around and try and figure it out. Right? Mm-Hmm, 700 00:44:02,605 --> 00:44:06,725 . But pain is not, pain is not an enemy. Pain is a pain is a, 701 00:44:07,025 --> 00:44:08,925 you know, if it wasn't for pain, we would, 702 00:44:09,065 --> 00:44:11,525 we would get really stupid and never find our way back. 703 00:44:12,015 --> 00:44:15,285 There is disorder that there are certain, there's a tiny, 704 00:44:15,315 --> 00:44:17,645 tiny percentage of humans that don't feel pain. 705 00:44:17,645 --> 00:44:21,645 They're born with the inability and it's a very dangerous way to live a life. 706 00:44:22,065 --> 00:44:22,645 Oh yeah. Well, 707 00:44:22,645 --> 00:44:26,765 there are diabetics who don't have any pain receptors in their legs 708 00:44:27,585 --> 00:44:32,435 and they bang into stuff and they actually injure themselves. 709 00:44:33,985 --> 00:44:37,285 And sometimes they injure themselves and they're bleeding and they don't even 710 00:44:37,285 --> 00:44:42,145 notice because they're, because in diabetes, your, 711 00:44:42,215 --> 00:44:45,305 your nerves kind of get deadened, right? Mm-Hmm. . Mm-Hmm. 712 00:44:45,345 --> 00:44:45,585 . Yeah. 713 00:44:45,585 --> 00:44:49,305 And how are you gonna make it through the world if you can't feel that you 714 00:44:49,495 --> 00:44:52,025 banging into something, how would you know? 715 00:44:52,775 --> 00:44:56,345 Then I got into digestion because that's the second most neglected area. 716 00:44:57,785 --> 00:45:01,165 And indigestion, most things that go wrong with digestion, 717 00:45:01,265 --> 00:45:05,125 you can fix with digestive enzymes or probiotics 718 00:45:06,345 --> 00:45:10,395 or fiber or bitters, bitter herbs, 719 00:45:11,385 --> 00:45:15,845 you know, or combination of those. So I got into that next, which should, 720 00:45:15,945 --> 00:45:19,925 so work with digestive enzymes and probiotics and, uh, 721 00:45:20,045 --> 00:45:23,565 I brush my teeth with probiotics and I don't wake up with bad breath in the 722 00:45:23,565 --> 00:45:28,065 morning. How about that? And I have no, 723 00:45:28,405 --> 00:45:32,505 you know, no digestion problem issues at all. I eat lots of raw, lots of, 724 00:45:32,615 --> 00:45:37,065 lots of plant-based. I'm 81 and I have a ton of energy, 725 00:45:37,845 --> 00:45:41,585 you know, and also with digestive enzymes, uh, 726 00:45:41,655 --> 00:45:45,625 they'll digest the protein coat off viruses. So they're very helpful. 727 00:45:46,445 --> 00:45:50,225 Raw foods and digestive enzymes, very helpful with respiratory issues. 728 00:45:51,035 --> 00:45:56,025 Probiotics, very important to keep unfriendly bacteria to get, 729 00:45:56,125 --> 00:45:59,465 get from getting outta hand in your digestive system. Uh, 730 00:45:59,595 --> 00:46:04,025 fiber obviously good for bowel regularity and blood sugar slowing, 731 00:46:04,035 --> 00:46:08,185 blood sugar absorption and all of that bitters for liver, 732 00:46:08,375 --> 00:46:12,785 both liver and digestive function. So then I did that. Then I got into, 733 00:46:13,325 --> 00:46:17,665 uh, greens because it's like, okay, well, well what else do we need to do here? 734 00:46:17,725 --> 00:46:18,465 Oh, greens. Yeah. 735 00:46:18,465 --> 00:46:21,465 Everybody knows they should be eating their greens and most people don't. 736 00:46:22,255 --> 00:46:25,475 So we made digestive, we made, uh, uh, uh, 737 00:46:25,635 --> 00:46:29,675 portable greens that people can take on the road if they want to pay attention 738 00:46:29,815 --> 00:46:32,955 to their intake. And sometimes when you travel, you know, 739 00:46:32,955 --> 00:46:34,555 you're around a lot of bad food. 740 00:46:35,175 --> 00:46:39,075 So you can take them along and make your own green drink in the morning or, 741 00:46:39,815 --> 00:46:44,595 or put 'em in your oatmeal for whatever. Put 'em on your bacon and eggs. I know. 742 00:46:44,615 --> 00:46:48,755 I'm just kidding. . And uh, and then I got, 743 00:46:48,755 --> 00:46:53,275 and then after that I got into what else affects health? And I realized, 744 00:46:53,375 --> 00:46:58,195 oh my God, everything affects health. And so that's when I said, okay, 745 00:46:58,195 --> 00:47:02,795 we need to create a field of total health based in nature and human nature 746 00:47:03,935 --> 00:47:07,195 and the, and the inner part of it that is most neglected. The, 747 00:47:07,335 --> 00:47:12,035 the contentment part and the unconditional empowering love part and the 748 00:47:12,035 --> 00:47:16,955 inspiration part that are all internal to each human being is the most 749 00:47:17,025 --> 00:47:21,605 neglected of all topics on this planet. And so that's, 750 00:47:21,625 --> 00:47:24,005 that's what I got into. That's what I'm into now. 751 00:47:24,005 --> 00:47:26,445 Then we talked about that the last time it came on. Yeah. 752 00:47:26,475 --> 00:47:29,260 That was a great conversation. Human, human nature. Yeah. 753 00:47:29,585 --> 00:47:33,805 It seems to me that, especially in the United States, 754 00:47:33,995 --> 00:47:38,165 that we are a, a human race now that is 755 00:47:40,235 --> 00:47:43,285 weirdly obese and yet starving. 756 00:47:44,225 --> 00:47:48,205 Mm-Hmm, . Yeah. Why? Why is that? Because we eat refined foods. 757 00:47:48,255 --> 00:47:51,125 White sugar has no nutrients in it. Only fuel. 758 00:47:51,895 --> 00:47:56,565 White flour has had a lot of nutrients taken out and the white 759 00:47:56,835 --> 00:48:01,045 oils have had all the nutrients taken out except the essential fatty acids. 760 00:48:01,105 --> 00:48:02,405 And a part of that is damaged. 761 00:48:03,265 --> 00:48:06,965 And so when you are eating foods like that, you don't get, 762 00:48:07,065 --> 00:48:10,285 you stay hungry because your body's still saying, I need more. 763 00:48:11,005 --> 00:48:13,765 'cause you're supposed to be eating undamaged. 764 00:48:13,985 --> 00:48:17,925 You're supposed to be eating whole foods and you're getting your minerals and 765 00:48:17,925 --> 00:48:21,165 your vitamins and you don't have a hunger for magnesium and a hunger for omega 766 00:48:21,165 --> 00:48:24,485 threes and a hunger for zinc. You just have a hunger. 767 00:48:25,465 --> 00:48:28,045 And all of zinc, zinc and all of the minerals and, 768 00:48:28,105 --> 00:48:30,245 and vitamins came with the whole foods. 769 00:48:31,265 --> 00:48:35,925 So life never elaborate at different nutrient needs 770 00:48:36,545 --> 00:48:40,985 for specific nutrients. Right. So then when you eat badly, 771 00:48:41,165 --> 00:48:45,265 you eat foods. Not the way nature made 'em, but the way industry made them, 772 00:48:45,695 --> 00:48:50,425 then you set yourself up for never being satisfied, eating more than you need. 773 00:48:51,085 --> 00:48:55,825 On top of it. You got stress that makes you eat. Also, on top of that, we've, 774 00:48:55,825 --> 00:48:57,185 we've focused on carbs. 775 00:48:57,205 --> 00:49:02,065 And carbs will make turn on fat production and turn off fat 776 00:49:02,185 --> 00:49:06,305 burning in the body. And so then what happens? You overeat 'em, 777 00:49:06,335 --> 00:49:10,705 your blood sugar goes up, the excess goes in, the cells is turned into fat, 778 00:49:10,705 --> 00:49:13,305 then your blood sugar goes down, then you get cravings. 779 00:49:13,415 --> 00:49:17,705 Then you get carb addiction and carb addiction's being measured to be between 780 00:49:17,705 --> 00:49:22,335 four and eight times more addictive than cocaine. 781 00:49:23,775 --> 00:49:28,165 Right. And then you get all of the junk. I mean, I don't know what I, 782 00:49:28,325 --> 00:49:32,685 I think it's something like 60 to 80% of the foods that people eat in North 783 00:49:32,685 --> 00:49:37,525 America. It's not just us. By the way, Canada, Europe too 90, uh, 784 00:49:37,895 --> 00:49:41,845 60 to 80% is like junk food, 785 00:49:43,055 --> 00:49:44,585 fast food, white flour. 786 00:49:44,585 --> 00:49:47,705 It's so much cheaper, unfortunately. And beware of the word enriched. 787 00:49:47,795 --> 00:49:48,985 Never a good thing. Yeah. 788 00:49:49,105 --> 00:49:51,065 Enriched. Yeah. How, you know how enriched goes? 789 00:49:51,135 --> 00:49:54,265 They take 26 minerals and vitamins out of the grain, 790 00:49:54,895 --> 00:49:57,385 then they add six back and then they call it enriched. 791 00:49:57,385 --> 00:50:01,105 It should have been called impoverished . Mm-Hmm. 792 00:50:01,145 --> 00:50:01,978 . 793 00:50:02,055 --> 00:50:06,705 Yeah. And that isn't gonna change. Just like all our, 794 00:50:06,705 --> 00:50:11,305 of our crazy warness and all of that crazy fighting and conflict we have is not 795 00:50:11,305 --> 00:50:16,145 gonna get fixed until we feel whole inside and enjoy our life. 796 00:50:16,795 --> 00:50:21,505 While our physical health problems are not gonna get fixed until we begin to 797 00:50:21,575 --> 00:50:24,565 live in line with nature again, 798 00:50:25,385 --> 00:50:28,740 eat our foods the way nature makes it. So that would be fresh, 799 00:50:29,375 --> 00:50:33,725 whole raw, organic for human. Mostly plant-based. 800 00:50:34,395 --> 00:50:39,005 Yeah. The organisms that live in our body have their own agenda. 801 00:50:39,265 --> 00:50:42,405 For example, you mentioned probiotic. 802 00:50:42,835 --> 00:50:47,245 When the little bugs in our bellies and in our colon, they, 803 00:50:47,385 --> 00:50:50,765 if there's an over let's ex, let's just say yeast for example. 804 00:50:51,085 --> 00:50:52,765 Yeast wants more sugar. Yeah. 805 00:50:52,765 --> 00:50:56,085 So it's gonna create in your mind the idea that you want, 806 00:50:56,265 --> 00:51:00,525 you think you want candy or ice cream or sugary things, 807 00:51:00,715 --> 00:51:02,965 when in reality it's not you that wants it. 808 00:51:02,995 --> 00:51:06,165 It's a little organisms that are pulling levers in your brain. 809 00:51:06,435 --> 00:51:08,965 Yeah. But you have to be a little careful. It's true. 810 00:51:09,205 --> 00:51:11,565 Yeast love sugar and cancer cells love sugar. 811 00:51:12,265 --> 00:51:15,805 And it's true that they have their own ways to try and get what they want. 812 00:51:16,345 --> 00:51:17,325 But you gotta be careful. 813 00:51:17,385 --> 00:51:22,205 You're still in charge and you still can make decisions. And fundamentally, 814 00:51:22,235 --> 00:51:25,205 what you need to do to get rid of the yeast and the, 815 00:51:25,205 --> 00:51:28,725 and the cancer cells is you need to cut sugar out of your diet completely. 816 00:51:29,865 --> 00:51:32,595 Doesn't mean you can't eat fruit. No white sugar. 817 00:51:33,315 --> 00:51:37,955 I got no white sugar in my house. I never use it. No white flour. I, 818 00:51:37,995 --> 00:51:42,835 I don't have bread or pasta or pancakes or any of that garbage in my house. 819 00:51:43,195 --> 00:51:44,995 I eat seeds, nuts, greens, 820 00:51:45,165 --> 00:51:49,435 fruit and whole foods the way nature made 'em. 821 00:51:49,455 --> 00:51:53,895 If it ain't the way nature made it, don't eat it. Except for the oil. 822 00:51:53,895 --> 00:51:58,615 Are you a vegan? Except for the oil? No, I don't like vegan. I like plant-based. 823 00:51:59,315 --> 00:52:04,015 And I don't like some of the harshness that goes 824 00:52:04,085 --> 00:52:07,055 with some vegan philosophies. 825 00:52:07,535 --> 00:52:10,295 I posted an article on one of my web, 826 00:52:10,395 --> 00:52:13,535 on one of my social media and the title was, 827 00:52:14,245 --> 00:52:16,775 love is more important than vegetables. 828 00:52:17,045 --> 00:52:20,615 Because if you're gonna be eat vegetables and you treat people like crap, 829 00:52:21,515 --> 00:52:23,455 you're not helping the planet that much. 830 00:52:24,095 --> 00:52:26,055 I would rather talk to a meat eater who, 831 00:52:26,155 --> 00:52:30,735 who is kind to people than to a vegan who, who is abrasive. 832 00:52:32,075 --> 00:52:36,295 You know, the abrasiveness is, is completely misguided in my, 833 00:52:36,515 --> 00:52:37,348 in my opinion. 834 00:52:37,875 --> 00:52:42,615 We need more peace and more love and more inspiration on the planet. And uh, 835 00:52:42,855 --> 00:52:47,775 I think a good case can be made for eating whole food plant-based much 836 00:52:47,775 --> 00:52:48,655 more than we do. 837 00:52:50,305 --> 00:52:53,365 And out of insight comes to change in habits, 838 00:52:53,705 --> 00:52:58,025 not out of being hammered over the head. So it's just bad strategy. 839 00:52:58,165 --> 00:53:00,905 So I don't, I don't want to be associated with that kind of strategy. 840 00:53:01,485 --> 00:53:06,225 Rarely do I have any dairy. Very rare. I haven't eaten meat. 841 00:53:06,265 --> 00:53:11,185 I don't know how for, for how long or eggs. And I feel really, you know, 842 00:53:11,185 --> 00:53:14,745 and I'm a type O they're supposed to be the meat eaters according to one of the, 843 00:53:15,805 --> 00:53:20,385 the blood type diet. I've always done better on vegetables. The older I get, 844 00:53:20,405 --> 00:53:24,625 the more I eat raw and raw works for me really well. Raw, 845 00:53:24,625 --> 00:53:28,385 organic plant-based, fresh whole. 846 00:53:29,215 --> 00:53:30,905 Well I think you made a good point too, 847 00:53:30,905 --> 00:53:35,345 that you said you have to experiment and see what works well for your body. 848 00:53:35,415 --> 00:53:38,265 Yeah. Yeah. And how your body responds. Yeah. And. 849 00:53:38,265 --> 00:53:38,745 It'll change. 850 00:53:38,745 --> 00:53:42,305 You have to keep experimenting 'cause it changes with age because what I, 851 00:53:42,305 --> 00:53:45,665 what worked when I was younger doesn't work for me now. And I do, don't, 852 00:53:45,665 --> 00:53:50,305 I know it. I do exceptionally well on, on plant-based. Okay. 853 00:53:50,605 --> 00:53:54,665 You know, plant-based raw, you know, I never sort of set out say, oh yeah, 854 00:53:54,785 --> 00:53:57,865 I think plant-based raw. Oh yeah, yeah. That's a really good idea. 855 00:53:57,965 --> 00:54:02,315 It wasn't like that. I'm just following what works for my body. And uh, 856 00:54:02,455 --> 00:54:06,875 you know, like I say, I'm 81 and people, people can't believe how young I am. 857 00:54:06,875 --> 00:54:07,915 That's, that's what they say. 858 00:54:07,935 --> 00:54:11,915 You say you look like you're in your sixties and you talk like you're still a 859 00:54:11,915 --> 00:54:15,155 kid. . Yeah. So. 860 00:54:15,385 --> 00:54:17,355 Tell everyone how they might find you again. 861 00:54:18,215 --> 00:54:23,195 Uh, Udo's Choice, UDOS choice.com. That's where the products are. 862 00:54:23,775 --> 00:54:28,315 And then the Udo, T-H-E-U-D-O, that's the website we're building. 863 00:54:28,315 --> 00:54:32,515 That's more on the, on the big picture stuff. The total health and the, the, uh, 864 00:54:32,685 --> 00:54:36,555 psychology stuff. And you know, the, the human nature. 865 00:54:37,805 --> 00:54:41,965 I have a YouTube channel under Udo or Rasmus and I'm on Instagram. 866 00:54:42,745 --> 00:54:47,725 And if you punch in Udo on Google Udo not even a four letter word, 867 00:54:47,865 --> 00:54:51,645 you I'm on the first page. 'cause there are not so many Udo's on the planet. 868 00:54:53,035 --> 00:54:56,485 Nice. It was, it was always an embarrassment to have a strange name like that, 869 00:54:56,485 --> 00:54:58,765 but now it's a bonus . 870 00:54:59,165 --> 00:55:02,685 Absolutely. And I know that Whole Foods carries your products and. 871 00:55:03,185 --> 00:55:06,965 All the, all the health food stores in the fridge. The oil is in the fridge. 872 00:55:06,965 --> 00:55:09,005 And the supplement section in the health food stores, 873 00:55:09,265 --> 00:55:13,435 the probiotics are on under the Flora brand. Uh, 874 00:55:13,435 --> 00:55:18,275 they're also in the fridge and the enzymes are on the shelf 875 00:55:18,665 --> 00:55:22,475 because they don't need refrigeration as long as they're dry. And the greens, 876 00:55:22,515 --> 00:55:24,475 I think they're, yeah. The greens are also on the shelf. 877 00:55:25,345 --> 00:55:28,795 Yeah. Thank you so much for coming back on the show. I appreciate. 878 00:55:28,795 --> 00:55:29,875 It. All right. Thank you. 879 00:55:30,605 --> 00:55:34,875 Thank you for listening everybody. Yeah. It's been really great. Yeah. 880 00:55:35,075 --> 00:55:36,035 Cool. Thanks Susan. 881 00:55:36,065 --> 00:55:37,555 Yeah. Take care. Alright, 882 00:55:40,685 --> 00:55:45,275 great review and subscribe to Hey Human Podcast on iTunes or wherever you get 883 00:55:45,275 --> 00:55:47,195 your podcasts. Thanks. Bye.