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Speaker 0: Lead story. OpenAI turns ChatTBT into an app
Speaker 0: platform. Yeah. At Dev Day twenty twenty five,
Speaker 0: OpenAI announced that ChatTBT is evolving from a
Speaker 0: chatbot into a full blown app platform. Through
Speaker 0: a new ChatTBT apps SDK, developers can build
Speaker 0: plug and play apps that run inside ChatGPT,
Speaker 0: giving users access to tools like Canva, Zillow,
Speaker 0: Spotify, and Coursera without leaving the chat. Let's
Speaker 0: get into the article. This is a really
Speaker 0: exciting one. They just announced this on October
Speaker 0: sixth, but really, really exciting news to kinda
Speaker 0: see them bringing those API endpoints directly into
Speaker 0: the chat. It's kinda cool. So here's a,
Speaker 0: yes, one of my dad's love hate sites,
Speaker 0: The Verge. OpenAI will let developers build apps
Speaker 0: that work inside ChatGPT. OpenAI is introducing a
Speaker 0: way to work with apps right inside ChatGPT.
Speaker 0: For software and services that connect to a
Speaker 0: new ChatGPT SDK, now you can tag in
Speaker 0: their apps to help you complete a task
Speaker 0: while ChatGPT offers context and advice. The company
Speaker 0: showed off a few different ways that this
Speaker 0: can work. In a live demo, an OpenAI
Speaker 0: employee launched ChatGPT and then asked Canva to
Speaker 0: create a poster of a name for a
Speaker 0: dog walking business. Say what? After a bit
Speaker 0: of waiting, Canva came back with a few
Speaker 0: different examples, and the presenter followed up by
Speaker 0: asking for a generated pitch deck based on
Speaker 0: the poster. The employee also asked Zillow via
Speaker 0: Chativity to show homes for sale in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 0: and it created an interactive Zillow map that
Speaker 0: the employee then asked follow-up questions about. Isn't
Speaker 0: that amazing? I think we were kinda waiting
Speaker 0: for this. We didn't know what was next,
Speaker 0: but we were waiting for something kinda big.
Speaker 0: They already kinda had this with, some other
Speaker 0: Google integrations like Drive or you could, like,
Speaker 0: link a page through, you know, sharing to
Speaker 0: the app, but this is, like, on another
Speaker 0: level. Everything from within the app. What a
Speaker 0: fantastic, fantastic little, like, release they got here.
Speaker 0: Anyway, yeah, really, really awesome stuff coming out
Speaker 0: from, Chat GPT, OpenAI. Let's, kinda get into
Speaker 0: the rest of the show. This is Ray,
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Speaker 0: into the next article. I got a little
Speaker 0: article about the Mesa project. For those of
Speaker 0: you that don't know what the Mesa project
Speaker 0: is, Mesa is an open source project that
Speaker 0: powers Linux graphics drivers. So this can be
Speaker 0: used by AMD, Intel, and and many other
Speaker 0: brands. Recently, a contributor submitted code generated by
Speaker 0: an AI assistant, and it looked correct syntactically
Speaker 0: but made no logical sense. The team caught
Speaker 0: it before it went live, but it triggered
Speaker 0: a new rule. The con contributors gonna have
Speaker 0: to show or prove that they come comprehend
Speaker 0: the code that they're submitting. They have to
Speaker 0: know what they're doing. I think this is
Speaker 0: kind of important, context going into this article
Speaker 0: because, like, we've been hearing now about all
Speaker 0: these code gen tools. Get away from boilerplate.
Speaker 0: Just get straight to architecting. Well, if you're
Speaker 0: submitting massive changes that needs massive amount of
Speaker 0: review, the AI slop is not helping contribute
Speaker 0: to, you know, allowing everyone to keep up
Speaker 0: with what's what's changing in the code base.
Speaker 0: It's very important for people to know what's
Speaker 0: going on, how to fix things, where a
Speaker 0: mess might be. So let's get into the
Speaker 0: article. Recently, Faith Xtrand announced on Mastodon that
Speaker 0: Mesa was updating its contributor guide. This follows
Speaker 0: a recent AI slop incident where someone submitted
Speaker 0: a massive patch to the Mesa project with
Speaker 0: the claim that this would improve performance by
Speaker 0: a few percent. The catch, the entire patch
Speaker 0: was generated by ChatTBT with the submitter becoming
Speaker 0: somewhat irate when the very patient Mesa developers
Speaker 0: tried to explain that they'd happily look at
Speaker 0: the issue after the submitter had condensed the
Speaker 0: purported improvement into a bite sized patch. Now
Speaker 0: they get a little bit more into this
Speaker 0: whole saga in a in a video by
Speaker 0: Brody Robertson, and, you know, it's kinda crazy
Speaker 0: to to see something like this, you know,
Speaker 0: even to be upset that someone doesn't want
Speaker 0: AI Slob in their open source project. So
Speaker 0: the entire saga the saga is summarized in
Speaker 0: a recent video by Brody Robertson, which highlights
Speaker 0: both how incredibly friendly the Mesa developers are
Speaker 0: and how the use of ChatTBT and Kin
Speaker 0: has made some people with zero programming skills
Speaker 0: apparently believe that they can now contribute code
Speaker 0: to open source projects. Unsurprisingly, the Mesa developers
Speaker 0: were unable to disabuse this particular individual from
Speaker 0: that notion. But the diff to the Mesa
Speaker 0: contributor guide by Timmer Kristoff should make it
Speaker 0: abundantly clear that someone playing telephone between a
Speaker 0: chatbot and an open source project developers is
Speaker 0: neither desirable nor helpful. That said, Brody also
Speaker 0: highlights a recent post by Daniel Stenberg of
Speaker 0: curl fame. And if you guys don't remember,
Speaker 0: we talked about Daniel last week, an awesome,
Speaker 0: awesome maintainer of the curl project, longtime maintainer.
Speaker 0: He always is talking about AI slop on
Speaker 0: Mastodon. He's always doing presentations on AI slop.
Speaker 0: But, anyway, he thanked, Joshua Rogers for contributing
Speaker 0: a massive list of potential issues that were
Speaker 0: found using AI assisted tools as detailed in
Speaker 0: this blog post by Joshua. An important point
Speaker 0: here is that these AI tools are not
Speaker 0: l m LLM based chatbots, but rather tweaked
Speaker 0: existing tools like static code analyzers with more
Speaker 0: smart spoiled bolted on. They're purpose made tools
Speaker 0: that still require you to know what you're
Speaker 0: doing, but they can be a real asset
Speaker 0: to a developer and a heck of a
Speaker 0: lot more useful to a project like CURL
Speaker 0: than getting say than getting sent fake bug
Speaker 0: reports by a confabulating chatbot as has happened
Speaker 0: previously. So, yeah, that's kinda cool. It's kinda
Speaker 0: cool to see that. It it's it's and
Speaker 0: it's so you can see Daniel Stenberg is
Speaker 0: not necessarily against the use of AI, but
Speaker 0: he has experienced a lot of, like, oh,
Speaker 0: you know, big PR reports from people that
Speaker 0: are obviously generated fully generated by chat chat
Speaker 0: ridiculous to kinda read through them and see
Speaker 0: the the the changes they're proposing. Moving on.
Speaker 0: We got another article, in the AI space.
Speaker 0: If you haven't heard already, Google Jules has
Speaker 0: joined the Claude Code, the the Gemini CLI
Speaker 0: gang, and it has brought Google Jules, into
Speaker 0: developer workflows by, getting it on the command
Speaker 0: line system, which is kinda kinda cool. If
Speaker 0: you've never used any of these tools, they're
Speaker 0: pretty neat. It's kinda hard to, like, keep
Speaker 0: up with them. But, again, that is the
Speaker 0: whole problem right now with generated code. Right?
Speaker 0: It's it's quite literally generated slot because you
Speaker 0: don't know what's going on. You have to
Speaker 0: keep everything together yourself. And, you know, when
Speaker 0: big changes happen and you don't you can't
Speaker 0: pinpoint the problem because it's all generated, then
Speaker 0: what are you gonna do? No no one
Speaker 0: knows where to look. Anyway, I keep reiterating
Speaker 0: this over and over. I'm like a broken
Speaker 0: record, but, you know, I just feel like
Speaker 0: it's the the raging conversation these days. You
Speaker 0: know? People are saying, use the tools, and
Speaker 0: other people are like yeah. It's it's the
Speaker 0: whole thing. But let's get into the article.
Speaker 0: Google is bringing its AI coding agent, Jules,
Speaker 0: deeper into developer workflows with a new command
Speaker 0: line interface and public API, allowing it to
Speaker 0: plug into terminals, CICD systems, and tools like
Speaker 0: Slack as competition intensifies among tech companies to
Speaker 0: own the future of software development and make
Speaker 0: coding more of an AI assisted task. Until
Speaker 0: now, JUULS, Google's asynchronous coding agent, was only
Speaker 0: accessible via its website and GitHub. On Thursday,
Speaker 0: the company introduced Jules tools, a command line
Speaker 0: interface that brings Jules directly into the developer's
Speaker 0: terminal. The CLI lets developers interact with the
Speaker 0: agent using commands, streamlining workflows by eliminating the
Speaker 0: need to switch between the web interface and
Speaker 0: GitHub. It allows them to stay within their
Speaker 0: environment while delegating coding tasks and validating results.
Speaker 0: We want to reduce context switching for developers
Speaker 0: as much as possible, and Cathy Korovec, director
Speaker 0: of products at Google Labs, oh, said Cathy
Speaker 0: Korovec, excuse me, director of products at Google
Speaker 0: Labs in an interview. Google already offers Gemini
Speaker 0: CLI, an AI based command line tool that
Speaker 0: works across developer environments like terminals and CICD
Speaker 0: pipelines. Both Gemini CLI and JUULS use Google's
Speaker 0: Gemini two point four two point five Pro
Speaker 0: AI model under the hood. However, Korovic told
Speaker 0: TechCrunch that JUULS tools is designed for Veriscope
Speaker 0: tasks while Gemini CLI requires used to be
Speaker 0: users to be a lot more iterative and
Speaker 0: to collaborate a lot more with the tool.
Speaker 0: It's kinda cool. So and now Google's got
Speaker 0: two CLI based, coding agent assistants to get
Speaker 0: your tech flows going faster, I guess. Google
Speaker 0: senior developer advocate, Denise Quan, also elaborated in
Speaker 0: a Medium post on how Jules differs from
Speaker 0: Gemini CLI. Jules is less interactive by design,
Speaker 0: she noted, and executes tasks independently once the
Speaker 0: user approves its plan. In addition to the
Speaker 0: CLI, Google has made Jules API public, which
Speaker 0: it had previously used for internal development. The
Speaker 0: purpose of this is also to help developers
Speaker 0: use Jules more often as they can extend
Speaker 0: the tool into their existing workflows where they
Speaker 0: have a lot of muscle memory and familiarity,
Speaker 0: Corvex said. Developers can also use the API
Speaker 0: to integrate Jules with their integrated development environment,
Speaker 0: IDE, a software application that keep that helps
Speaker 0: make coding easier by providing a list of
Speaker 0: tools such as Versus Code. However, Horvek told
Speaker 0: TechCrunch that her team is keen to build
Speaker 0: specific plugins for IDEs to further expand Jewel's
Speaker 0: presence. So, yeah, really exciting, launch. So higher
Speaker 0: limits are the a free plan offers up
Speaker 0: to fifteen individual daily tasks and three concurrent
Speaker 0: tasks. Higher limits are available through the Google
Speaker 0: AI Pro and Ultra plans priced at nineteen
Speaker 0: ninety nine and one twenty four ninety nine
Speaker 0: per month, offering approximately five times and twenty
Speaker 0: times the limits respectively. So you gotta wonder,
Speaker 0: how big is a task? Fifteen individual daily
Speaker 0: tasks and three concurrent tasks. Oh, that's kinda
Speaker 0: cool. So it can be building stuff while
Speaker 0: you're or, like, working on something while you're
Speaker 0: talking to another, instance or prompting another one,
Speaker 0: prompting doing a little prompt. Thanks to TechCrunch
Speaker 0: for this article. Really cool one. We'll send
Speaker 0: this one out in the show notes. I
Speaker 0: got another one for you guys tonight. A
Speaker 0: lot of AI. You know? AI is the
Speaker 0: rage right now. A lot of stories coming
Speaker 0: out saying we're in an AI bubble. And,
Speaker 0: you know, I'm sure you guys have heard
Speaker 0: about, Perplexity's offer for Google Chrome, something like
Speaker 0: thirty four billion, thirty four point five billion
Speaker 0: for, the browser, which I'm not I don't
Speaker 0: know. I don't know what that's about, but,
Speaker 0: yeah, maybe it's a flex. But if you
Speaker 0: guys don't haven't heard about Complexity's Comet browser
Speaker 0: yet, it's a browser with built in AI.
Speaker 0: It merges search, chat, and reasoning into one
Speaker 0: window instead of searching. You ask questions, and
Speaker 0: it responds conversationally, pulling verified sources into an
Speaker 0: AI summary. It's now free to all users.
Speaker 0: I don't know if you guys knew this,
Speaker 0: but, yes, it's, it's out as of last
Speaker 0: Thursday, I believe. Kind of exciting news because
Speaker 0: they were offering this before at two hundred
Speaker 0: dollars a month. So you had to be
Speaker 0: on something equivalent to, like, the ChatGPT Max
Speaker 0: plan to even use their browser. So, check
Speaker 0: that out. I know the requirements to run
Speaker 0: it are a little bit steep. I think
Speaker 0: at a minimum, sixteen gigabytes of RAM, and
Speaker 0: then recommended thirty two gigabytes. So I don't
Speaker 0: know what people's specs are like on average
Speaker 0: these days, but, yeah, I'm not putting that
Speaker 0: on, my old old gal. She she won't
Speaker 0: be able to do that. No way, Jose.
Speaker 0: But, yeah, let's get into the article. Perplexity
Speaker 0: AI rolls out Comet browser for free worldwide,
Speaker 0: and, hope this is okay. This one's from
Speaker 0: CNBC. Perplexity on a Perplexity AI on Thursday
Speaker 0: announced that its artificial intelligence powered web browser,
Speaker 0: Comet, is available worldwide and will be free
Speaker 0: to users. The Comet browser is designed to
Speaker 0: serve as a per personal assistant that can
Speaker 0: search the web, organize tabs, draft emails, shop,
Speaker 0: and more according to Perplexity. The startup initially
Speaker 0: launched Comet in July to Perplexity Max subscribers
Speaker 0: for two hundred dollars a month, and the
Speaker 0: wait list has ballooned to, quote, unquote, millions
Speaker 0: of people, the company said. Complexity's decision to
Speaker 0: provide Comet for free could help it attract
Speaker 0: more users as it works to fend off
Speaker 0: rivals like Google, OpenAI, and Anthropic that have
Speaker 0: their own AI browser offerings. In September, Google
Speaker 0: rolled out Gemini in its Chrome browser. Anthropic
Speaker 0: announced an a a browser based AI agent
Speaker 0: in August, and OpenAI unveiled operator, an agent
Speaker 0: that uses a browser to complete tasks in
Speaker 0: January. And this is on top of what
Speaker 0: we just talked about with o OpenAI now
Speaker 0: releasing their, like, app SDK. So that that
Speaker 0: that's, like, on top of that. They just
Speaker 0: one up to this, Comet release, just a
Speaker 0: week later. You know? But Perplexity is best
Speaker 0: known for its AI powered search engine that
Speaker 0: gives users simple answers to questions and links
Speaker 0: out to original source material on the web.
Speaker 0: After the company was accused of plagiarizing content
Speaker 0: for media outlets, it launched a revenue sharing
Speaker 0: model with publishers last year. And I think
Speaker 0: that's the, the Reddit case there, that I'm
Speaker 0: sure we I I think we've talked about
Speaker 0: a lot on the show in the past,
Speaker 0: how Reddit is not happy with chatbots, scanning
Speaker 0: and scraping their websites. So, yeah, definitely light
Speaker 0: reference to that. The company also introduced Comet
Speaker 0: Plus in August, which is a subscription that
Speaker 0: gives users accent access to content from trusted
Speaker 0: publishers and journalists. According to a blog blog
Speaker 0: blog post, quote, can't speak. Perplexity said Tuesday
Speaker 0: that CNN, Conde Nast, The Washington Post, Los
Speaker 0: Angeles Times, Fortune, Le Monde, and Le Figaro
Speaker 0: are its inaugural publishing partners. Pulp Perplexity said
Speaker 0: additional features are also on the way. The
Speaker 0: company teased a mobile version of Comet and
Speaker 0: features called background assistant, which can work on
Speaker 0: multiple tasks simultaneously and asynchronously. So, welcome to
Speaker 0: the era of automating your life, I guess.
Speaker 0: And I'm, like, I don't this kinda reminds
Speaker 0: me again of another tool called n eight
Speaker 0: n that you can use. It's, it's like
Speaker 0: one of those, like, drag and drop task,
Speaker 0: like, task what do you call them? Like,
Speaker 0: task flow things. So, like, oh, you get
Speaker 0: an email from someone, and then this thing
Speaker 0: triggers. And, oh, if you get an email
Speaker 0: from this person, it's gonna, oh, post it
Speaker 0: to your note and also send it as
Speaker 0: an email to someone else, you know, or
Speaker 0: add it to your Google Drive or something.
Speaker 0: You know? So it's, kinda cool. Or, you
Speaker 0: know, your shop restocks, and they hit your
Speaker 0: mailing list that something restocked, and it emails
Speaker 0: all the people automatically. So you don't have
Speaker 0: to worry about, restocking on items or sending
Speaker 0: out emails for people's wish lists and stuff.
Speaker 0: You know? It's just like it's automatic. Oh,
Speaker 0: this is on this person's wish list. Let's
Speaker 0: automatically send an email out that we just
Speaker 0: restocked it. You know? So, cool cool release
Speaker 0: here by Perplexity, Comet Browser for free now.
Speaker 0: Give it a try if your computer can
Speaker 0: run it. But, yeah, pretty cool stuff from
Speaker 0: them. And I got a sweet article from
Speaker 0: Tom's Hardware. Let's go. Harvard researchers hail quantum
Speaker 0: computing breakthrough with machine that can run for
Speaker 0: two hours. Atomic loss quashed by experimental design,
Speaker 0: systems that can run forever just three years
Speaker 0: away. Now that might be an exaggeration, but,
Speaker 0: apparently, it's over a fifty five thousand percent
Speaker 0: increase in operational time. A group of physicists
Speaker 0: from Harvard and MIT just built a quantum
Speaker 0: computer that ran continuously for more than two
Speaker 0: hours. Although it doesn't sound like much versus
Speaker 0: regular computers, like servers that run twenty four
Speaker 0: seven for months, if not years, this is
Speaker 0: a huge breakthrough in quantum computing. As reported
Speaker 0: by the Harvard Crimson, most current quantum computers
Speaker 0: run for only a few milliseconds with record
Speaker 0: breaking machines only able to operate for a
Speaker 0: little over ten seconds. Wow. The record record
Speaker 0: breaking one's ten seconds. This one just ran
Speaker 0: for two hours. Although two hours still a
Speaker 0: bit limited, researchers say that the concept behind
Speaker 0: this could allow future quantum computers to run
Speaker 0: for much longer, maybe even indefinitely. There is
Speaker 0: still a way to go and scale from
Speaker 0: where we are now, says research associate, Touti
Speaker 0: Wang. But the road map is now clear
Speaker 0: based on that breakthrough experiments that we've done
Speaker 0: here at Harvard. The main difference between regular
Speaker 0: and quantum computing is that the latter uses
Speaker 0: qubits, which are subatomic particles to hold and
Speaker 0: process data. But unlike the former, which retain
Speaker 0: information even without power, quantum computers can lose
Speaker 0: these qubits in a process called atom loss.
Speaker 0: This research this results in information loss and
Speaker 0: eventually system failure. So they address this by
Speaker 0: developing the optical lattice conveyor belt and optical
Speaker 0: tweezers to replace qubits as they're lost. Oh,
Speaker 0: that's kinda cool. The system has three thousand
Speaker 0: qubits and allows them to inject thirty three
Speaker 0: hundred thousand atoms per second into the quantum
Speaker 0: computer overcoming the qubit loss. There's now fundamentally
Speaker 0: nothing limiting how long our usual atom and
Speaker 0: quantum computers can run for. Even if atoms
Speaker 0: get lost with a small probability, we can
Speaker 0: bring fresh atoms in to replace them and
Speaker 0: not affect the quantum information being stored in
Speaker 0: the system. Other team members believe that this
Speaker 0: breakthrough allows to have quantum computers that can
Speaker 0: run forever in about three years. Before this,
Speaker 0: experts said that it was at least half
Speaker 0: a decade away, if not longer. Quantum computing
Speaker 0: has the potential to change the way we
Speaker 0: do computing, breaking barriers in cryptography, finance, medicine,
Speaker 0: and more. However, despite these advancements, it's unlikely
Speaker 0: that we'll have a personal quantum computers in
Speaker 0: our living room and offices within the next
Speaker 0: decade unless you're a physicist or researcher working
Speaker 0: on these cutting edge devices. Can you imagine,
Speaker 0: like, just having a quantum laptop? I don't
Speaker 0: even know what that would mean. What what
Speaker 0: would that mean to have a device like
Speaker 0: that? What what what is the benefit? So
Speaker 0: I don't know. Really cool stuff. I think
Speaker 0: we've seen a lot of this quantum stuff
Speaker 0: come out in the last few years that
Speaker 0: are just, like, so hype. The devices look
Speaker 0: crazy. But then, you know, you say that,
Speaker 0: but then you look at some of the
Speaker 0: computers. The first computers that were were made,
Speaker 0: those were big old boxes too. So, hey,
Speaker 0: really awesome stuff. Now I got some space
Speaker 0: news. I don't know if y'all wanna hear
Speaker 0: some space news, but we got it. ARC
Speaker 0: Aerospace is developing a hypersonic reusable spacecraft that
Speaker 0: can deliver payloads globally within sixty minutes. The
Speaker 0: design borrows from suborbital rocket tech and could
Speaker 0: revolutionize logistics and emergency response. So this this
Speaker 0: could potentially make same day global delivery a
Speaker 0: reality, but it also raises questions about cost,
Speaker 0: safety, and, apparently, a lot of it's being
Speaker 0: developed for military use. Would you trust your,
Speaker 0: like, your next Amazon rocket on or order
Speaker 0: on a rocket that reenters the atmosphere at
Speaker 0: Mach ten? So a little bit niche right
Speaker 0: now, but let's get into the article. This
Speaker 0: one's from Ars Technica. Thank you, guys. Ars
Speaker 0: Technica. Meet the arc space spacecraft. It aims
Speaker 0: to deliver cargo anywhere in the world in
Speaker 0: an hour. The key discriminator is, does this
Speaker 0: make a difference in the moment it's needed?
Speaker 0: Oh, that's that's a good question. It's still
Speaker 0: it's still an hour, I guess. Even if
Speaker 0: it's an emergency, it's still an hour. A
Speaker 0: relatively new spacecraft company, Inversion, revealed its new
Speaker 0: on demand delivery vehicle Wednesday evening during a
Speaker 0: splash ceremony at its factory in Los Angeles.
Speaker 0: So this is last Wednesday. The show was
Speaker 0: meant to come out on Monday, but some
Speaker 0: stuff happened with the recording. So we're redoing
Speaker 0: it tonight. It's Wednesday, but this happened last
Speaker 0: Wednesday. Let's see here. Phenomenal mission for us
Speaker 0: is pre positioning ARCS on orbit and having
Speaker 0: them stay up there for up to five
Speaker 0: years, able to be called upon and then
Speaker 0: autonomous autonomously go and land wherever they wherever
Speaker 0: and whenever they're needed, being able to bring
Speaker 0: their cargo effects to desired location in under
Speaker 0: an hour. Inversion was found in founded in
Speaker 0: early twenty twenty one by Justin Fiacheti and
Speaker 0: Austin Briggs. Both were students at Boston University.
Speaker 0: Fiacchetti had internships at SpaceX and Relativity Space
Speaker 0: where he worked on propulsion. He dropped out
Speaker 0: of Boston University to cofound Inversion because of
Speaker 0: a simple idea. Space is a highway. It's
Speaker 0: kinda cool. Kinda reminds me of, like, the
Speaker 0: whole idea that there's, like, satellites just, like,
Speaker 0: flying around. There's satellites everywhere. I remember they
Speaker 0: used to say, like, they would become a
Speaker 0: point where it would just be like a
Speaker 0: trash field because, you know, we put new
Speaker 0: satellites up, but not do anything about the
Speaker 0: old ones. I don't think that's true anymore.
Speaker 0: I know that they've decommissioned satellites. But, yeah,
Speaker 0: I mean, does how does that compare to
Speaker 0: how many we're putting up? You know? Gotta
Speaker 0: wonder. Not everyone can pay to take their
Speaker 0: satellite down. I guess that's kind of a
Speaker 0: thing too, which is kind of a crazy
Speaker 0: thing. But the test spacecraft with a mass
Speaker 0: about two hundred pounds, two hundred pounds performed
Speaker 0: well, Fiocchetti said. It demonstrated the capability to
Speaker 0: raise and lower its orbit and remains power
Speaker 0: positive to date, periodically checking in with inversion
Speaker 0: flight controllers. However, the spacecraft will not make
Speaker 0: a controlled landing. Ray won't be coming back.
Speaker 0: I guess that's the name of the spaceship,
Speaker 0: but, I guess I won't be coming back.
Speaker 0: I I'll be back. Don't worry, guys. We're
Speaker 0: doing long term testing of software on orbit.
Speaker 0: I was like, so Ray's staying in space.
Speaker 0: Although Ray did not land, Inversion now feels
Speaker 0: confident enough in its technology to move into
Speaker 0: the production of larger ARC vehicles. Okay. So
Speaker 0: that was just tester size. I was like,
Speaker 0: dude, two hundred pounds is freaking nothing, dude.
Speaker 0: Excuse me. Sorry. I got I didn't I
Speaker 0: didn't know. I didn't see that part before.
Speaker 0: Okay. Let's see here. Where were we? About
Speaker 0: the size of a large tabletop is what
Speaker 0: they're estimating it's gonna be. So ARC is
Speaker 0: four feet wide and eight feet tall. The
Speaker 0: company is aiming to launch the first ARC
Speaker 0: vehicle by the end of twenty twenty six.
Speaker 0: Fiacheti said Inversion is on a really good
Speaker 0: path to make that timeline. So what does
Speaker 0: the military want to ship? ARC is lifting
Speaker 0: body spacecraft. It's a lifting body spacecraft, and
Speaker 0: it will do the majority of its maneuvering
Speaker 0: in the atmosphere where it has a thousand
Speaker 0: kilometers of cross range capability during reentry. It
Speaker 0: will land under parachutes and therefore not require
Speaker 0: a runway. Because the vehicle's propulsion system uses
Speaker 0: nontoxic materials, a soldier can approach it immediately
Speaker 0: after landing without any protective gear. That's kinda
Speaker 0: cool. So what would the US military wanna
Speaker 0: pre preposition in space for delivery at any
Speaker 0: moment's notice to any location around the world?
Speaker 0: We would we like to describe this as
Speaker 0: mission enabling cargo or effects. This could be
Speaker 0: a wide variety of specific payloads, anything from
Speaker 0: medical supplies to drones to what have you.
Speaker 0: But the key discriminator is, does this make
Speaker 0: a difference in the moment it's needed when
Speaker 0: it get back to the ground? You know,
Speaker 0: for the military and national security, if they
Speaker 0: need their cargo before the fight is over.
Speaker 0: Yeah. So it's still an hour. Right? So
Speaker 0: the company said it's already built a full
Speaker 0: scale manufacturing development unit of the primary structure
Speaker 0: for the first ARC vehicle, and it would
Speaker 0: be impressive capability if the small team at
Speaker 0: Inversion, now sixty people strong and growing, can
Speaker 0: bring the ARC space spacecraft to market. If,
Speaker 0: of course, is the operative word. Space is
Speaker 0: hard may be a cliche, but it also
Speaker 0: happens to be true. So that's pretty cool,
Speaker 0: to kinda see that little spacecraft delivery system.
Speaker 0: I guess this picture of the Arc is
Speaker 0: not real. This one's that's a rendering of
Speaker 0: the arc spacecraft. So if you wanna see
Speaker 0: what it looks like, you can check the
Speaker 0: website out, from Ars Technica, but I'll have
Speaker 0: that linked in the show notes, of course.
Speaker 0: And I got one last article for you
Speaker 0: tonight. I thought this was sick when I
Speaker 0: was kinda reading through it, so I think
Speaker 0: I hope you guys enjoy it too. Galaxies
Speaker 0: with high radio emissions could be home to
Speaker 0: many advanced civilizations. For decades, scientists engaged in
Speaker 0: the search for extraterrestrial intelligence have proved the
Speaker 0: galaxy for signs of artificial radio transmissions. Beginning
Speaker 0: with Project Ozma in nineteen sixty, astronomers have
Speaker 0: used radio antennas to listen for possible transmissions
Speaker 0: from other star systems or galaxies. These efforts
Speaker 0: culminated in January twenty sixteen with the launch
Speaker 0: of Breakthrough Listen, the most comprehend comprehensive SETI,
Speaker 0: which is search for extraterrestrial intelligence, effort to
Speaker 0: date. This project combines radio wave observations from
Speaker 0: Green Bank and Parkes Observatory as well as
Speaker 0: visible light observations from automated plant PlanetFinder. The
Speaker 0: results of Breakthrough Listen surveys have been shared
Speaker 0: via a series of public releases. The latest
Speaker 0: series, artificial broadcast as galactic populations, authored by
Speaker 0: Brian c Laki, explores the possibility that galaxies
Speaker 0: that are bright in radio spectrum, AKA radio
Speaker 0: bright galaxies, could be an indication that such
Speaker 0: galaxies could be packed with advanced civilizations. So
Speaker 0: I guess this is just a theory that
Speaker 0: this guy has been kinda, like, going through
Speaker 0: or following up on through a series of
Speaker 0: papers that, that kinda follow the conventional beliefs
Speaker 0: around, like, you know, planetary, expansion for a
Speaker 0: civilization. So we'll kinda get into that. So
Speaker 0: Brian c Lackey is a theoretical astronomer with
Speaker 0: breakthrough listen with the breakthrough listen initiative and
Speaker 0: a Jansky Fellow with the National Radio Astronomy
Speaker 0: Observatory. The paper is the third in a
Speaker 0: series that explores the latest data provided by
Speaker 0: the initiative's affiliated observatories. The paper describes Lackey's
Speaker 0: findings recently appeared online and has been submitted
Speaker 0: for publication to the publications of the Astro
Speaker 0: Astronomical Society of the Pacific. The paper is
Speaker 0: the third in a series that address techno
Speaker 0: signatures of an entire population of ETIs rather
Speaker 0: than individual star bound civilizations. As Lackey explained,
Speaker 0: the series was partly motivated by the idea
Speaker 0: that ETIs might rely on self replicating von
Speaker 0: Neumann probes to explore and settle beyond their
Speaker 0: system. This theory is foundational to the Fermi
Speaker 0: paradox, which assumes that this method is most
Speaker 0: likely is the most likely way advanced civilizations
Speaker 0: will become interstellar and possibly galactic. The first
Speaker 0: paper presents the theory and a mathematical framework
Speaker 0: for the calculations conducted in the second and
Speaker 0: third papers. In the second, Lackey explores what
Speaker 0: happened when you have multiple broadcasting civilizations in
Speaker 0: a single galaxy and applies this understanding to
Speaker 0: the Milky Way, Andromeda, and Messier fifty nine.
Speaker 0: The latest paper examines the potential signatures that
Speaker 0: a population of advanced civilizations would produce in
Speaker 0: galaxies throughout the universe. If you have some
Speaker 0: subset that has a lot of radio transmissions,
Speaker 0: they will appear radio bright. Like he told
Speaker 0: Universe Today via email, since we know basically
Speaker 0: how many galaxies there are at each level
Speaker 0: of flux, we can set up we can
Speaker 0: set upper limits on how many of these
Speaker 0: artificial radio galaxies there are. Galaxies are known
Speaker 0: to produce radio waves as part of their
Speaker 0: natural emissions. This includes Sagittarius a a star,
Speaker 0: like, I guess. There's a there's asterisk there,
Speaker 0: the supermassive black hole SMBH at the center
Speaker 0: of our galaxy. During the nineteen seventies, scientists
Speaker 0: discovered that the radio bright emissions at the
Speaker 0: center of our galaxy were caused by an
Speaker 0: extremely compact object embedded within a larger radio
Speaker 0: source. Since then, astronomers have determined that SMBHs
Speaker 0: reside at the center of every massive galaxy
Speaker 0: and are responsible for active galactic nuclei, a
Speaker 0: phenomenon in which core region of a galaxy
Speaker 0: temporarily outshines all the stars in the galactic
Speaker 0: disk. So kind of a cool article. It's
Speaker 0: mostly theoretical. If you wanna check it out,
Speaker 0: I got a I'll have it linked in
Speaker 0: the show notes. But if you stuck around,
Speaker 0: thank you so much for listening all the
Speaker 0: way through. Again, sorry for the late show.
Speaker 0: I did mean to record this on Monday,
Speaker 0: and I do plan to release these on
Speaker 0: Monday going forward. Just had some issues with
Speaker 0: the recording, so I had to redo it
Speaker 0: and just been having a busy week. So,
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Speaker 0: Thank you guys so much for listening. You
Speaker 0: guys have a phenomenal night. We'll see you
Speaker 0: guys next time. Hopefully, Chris will have a
Speaker 0: show tomorrow too so you guys are gonna
Speaker 0: have a little back to back. But have