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Open to season 7 of Firearms Trainer podcast

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episode 19 published on 07/09/2024.

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This episode will be talking with Brian Da

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talk about his experience, I train and learn

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1, unfortunately, that I was unable to make

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Today, we're joined with Ryan Da from Pal

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Academy. Welcome, Brian, and thank you for taking

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time to come on the podcast today. And

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on the problem, Rob, good to get a

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chance to talk to you again? Definitely. Well,

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hey. Before we jump into the topic of

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today, can you give our listeners a little

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bit about who Brian Da is

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And what Pallet academy does? A, Pal Academy

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is my brainchild from,

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after I...

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Jumped into the firearms

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lifestyle.

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1 of the things that I believe is

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that a good instructor, teacher is a better

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student,

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and

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I feel that

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being able to teach also improves my skills.

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So that's where Pallet and Academy came from

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Pallet and Academy, basically,

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going off of,

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prior

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prior guest,

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Peter,

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about setting up academy sci lessons,

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So that's what I've based my classes around

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as an academy style lesson,

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and Pal is an ultimate defender of

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romantic

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chi era

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that I enjoy.

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So that's where Pal and academy actually came

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from.

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I'm in Southwest Michigan, North Central Indiana, and

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I just

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run my classes as best as I can

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getting the knowledge that I can from anybody

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and everywhere.

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That's good. And

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it's it's neat to see people taking that

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academy approach with what Philip

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talked about, and I'm sure he would be

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very pleased to hear that that's

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that you're applying that information to your classes

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train learn event, 20 23 with

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Katie.

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it to the train and learn events. So

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got... You've reached out to me. I think

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it's really good.

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Sorry. I missed it. And I think it's

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something that the other instructors here, on, the

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podcast could really benefit from. Kinda knowing what's

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there. And hopefully, hopefully, maybe,

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they will go long and sign up for

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train learn 20 25.

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yep. This is Friday, Saturday Sunday.

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Kevin Dixie had it.

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Saint. Louis. It was down in Atlanta. So,

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you know, how how was Friday?

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development courses.

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speakers from across the industry, we had,

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Mike Bauer from Delta Defense.

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social media though,

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the bulk of the the business building was

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Youtube fame.

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Beth A had a presentation about reading

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reading the room and what how to read

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the room and how to engage with the

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leadership of the room.

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he had some good pretty pretty decent talking

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Ken Ross from

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primary arms also gave a presentation during the

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business,

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business building of

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creative marketing.

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1 of the marketing big w for primary

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arms. The zeke stout was also there again

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modern guns school

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presenting that

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that aspect of

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his spit his his spiel that...

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of, you know, not repeating it, but it

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was the same it was the same 1

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that you were there for. Mh.

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the business building aspect of the

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of the of the conference.

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really kinda missed that Friday night, especially because

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you get there, most of the time people

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are traveling in,

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starts.

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Early in it or later in the afternoon,

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and

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you get to talk to these industry people

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because train learn is about guns,

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but it's not all about shooting them It's

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it's a lot about networking.

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that gives you the ability to go on

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network with these people.

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And to say, hey, this is what I'm

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thinking.

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This is what I'm doing.

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And really kinda helps you,

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session, but you're there all 3 days, and

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you can talk to them. You know, you

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can... You you can sit around and just,

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you know, bs with them.

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But you really have the ability to pick

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their minds as well as go along and

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form some

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friendships because just like, yourself and I.

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You never know when you... When somebody... You

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might wanna reach out to him them and

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say, hey, what about this? You know, I

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had this idea. I've got this going on.

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everybody... I know...

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Well, listeners know there were several people that

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came back from train learn last year and

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and brought on the podcast. To talk about

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what what they were doing. So I thought

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they had

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great information to to share. And that's where,

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you know, from a long term perspective, you

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wanna be able to have a know, wide

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network of different people that can help you

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down the road. You know, from 111 thing

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or the other?

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that's exactly 1 of the the the points

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that I wanted to make is

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there is no other conference. That is, like

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train and learn in that regards.

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Friday night, when everybody was winding down at

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pretty much everybody that that traveled in and

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was at the same hotel because the business

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building part of the conference was at that

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after that after that particular conference, there is

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no other conference.

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I was able to sit out on the

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patio

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with Jared Jar from guns and gadgets

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and we were just shooting the breeze.

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it was just a,

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getting to know him, him getting to know

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me,

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you know, the same with Kd,

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you know, just sitting out there just just

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talking about the weather or whatever. Mh.

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there's no other conference where I would be

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able to go and say,

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hey, Jared,

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You know, I'm such and such,

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you know, what...

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It's not because he's not nice and not

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not pleasant or

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polite enough to take the time to do

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that. It's just... He... You don't have the

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time to do that in these other conferences

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where there's thousands of people in attendance. If

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you go to conferences and like, it's, you

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know, yeah nice Nice to meet you, but

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I I've got a scheduled, you know,

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talk that I gotta do. I gotta meet

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these people, you know, for dinner. I gotta

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do this... And

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there's a lot of people, you know, to

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come to those conferences and

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if you get to know some of the

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industry, people, you realize that those conferences are

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a heck a lot of work for them

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because they get there and Okay. I gotta

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be here. I gotta show up there... I'm

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gonna be closing a deal here. And

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if you don't... They don't know you ahead

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of time. It's hard to get... Much more

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than just, you know, brief picture of nice

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and handshake at.

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Yeah. And at train and learn that is

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completely the opposite. It because it is such

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a more intimate environment,

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because

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Kevin Kevin limits it, you he he will

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sell out the tickets.

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There isn't even a hundred participants

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in the past 2 years.

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So

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it does it does make that

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networking.

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It really drives the networking aspect of train

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and learn home.

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Mh. Because

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like I said, there there is

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no way on this earth that I would

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be able to go up and talk to

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Jared it a at even the Usc conference

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that they

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recently just shut down, but looking to rebuild.

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But Mh.

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I wouldn't be able to go up and

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and shoot the breeze

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like I was at train and learn,

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Right. And that's and... Yeah, we said enough

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about networking, a big big plus forward even

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if you don't... It they don't shoot anything.

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Yeah. It's still the networking great. Well, what...

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How did... How did Saturday go?

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That's more more

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We're doing stuff. So tell us how that

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went.

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Saturday is the range day,

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and,

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we had pistol rifle,

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Mike Martin,

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did the, first aid

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that he was talking about

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on the podcast

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before

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train and learn that he was going to

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be in...

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He was going to be there in May.

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And then

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The other aspect that they had was

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Nicholas

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Davenport from brain range.

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This was an interesting

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interesting aspect.

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He

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he presented some things that I actually already

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use in some of my drills

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as drills for some of my classes.

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It's ASII

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forget... I forget what exactly it's called.

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The target has

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words,

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so it spells out yellow,

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but the color of the word yellow is,

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red.

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And then they give you the command of

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c red and you would have to shoot

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the target where the color is red.

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It's a really interesting drill.

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Like I said, I've used it already in

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my classes. So I I was familiar with

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the process that he was doing.

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But,

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he was he was definitely a an interesting

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an interesting range

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exercise and

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aspect of that.

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And then

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we had the Ar, so Sean A and

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Beth A did that.

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And then the pistol was an introduction to

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the Us usc defensive pistol program that they're

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starting to push through. So that was quite

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a...

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An eye opening,

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experience,

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and that was presented by Jack Shepherd and

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Carrie Dug.

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Yep. They're they're part of the Dp.

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Yeah. The counselor program. The training counselors for

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the Dp. Yep. Mh.

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How how do you like defensive a pistol

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program.

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They've come out really a little bit of

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information what the qualifications is gonna be for

377
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it. But

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What do you think it's shooting exercises?

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The shooting exercises were were drills that

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that

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they kinda go in line with the,

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old

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the old defensive pistol shooting

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program that that we used to have,

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the drills are

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are meant to make you more

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purposeful.

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So

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your shooting becomes more purposeful

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with the drills that they're implementing.

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It's not the...

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It's still the intuitive

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shooting, but

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you're making every action.

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To bert to learn the my culmination, the

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the

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the neuro my nation in the neuro pathways,

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you're doing it more intently, more purposefully

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so that

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those pathways are built faster.

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Is 1 of the the aspects that I

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think they were trying to push across.

403
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With

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the Dp programs.

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Mh. Yeah. It's

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from what I've seen or heard, I should

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say, it's a 14

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modules, which allows you to

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slice and dice it into what makes sense

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for you. And they're into a 2 day

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class or into you know, a couple evening

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classes or, you know, even a full day

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class but I'm picking and choosing.

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I been through it and haven't seen anything

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official, but that's

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what I understand

417
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right now about it. And that's

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that that'll definitely, you know,

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help out a lot of instructors that have

420
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been looking for

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those kind of

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programs add to their classes they offer because

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we know

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lot of our students are busy with other

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things that going on. And at the same

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time,

427
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you know, we wanna make sure they get

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the skills.

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In are purposeful about what they're doing too

430
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because, you know, too many

431
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too too many internet celebrities, I guess, I'll

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put it that way

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make it sound too easy, and you've gotta

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make sure they get the proper mindset from

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a being purposeful.

436
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If they're gonna be, you know, concealed carry

437
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holders. Can't you can't yeah you can't fly

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off the handle for sure.

439
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If you're gonna be caring.

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1 of the other things is is that

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it definitely will help build an academy

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style

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class

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program.

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The

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the the modules that we were running through,

447
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each each group ran through a different module,

448
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but the modules that my group was running

449
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through

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we're building off of the the basis, the

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basics.

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So,

453
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you know, we did a couple of drills

454
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with the basics, and then they built up

455
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off of that. Then they built up off

456
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of that,

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just increasing the difficulty

458
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as we went along. And in 90 minutes,

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session, we were

460
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we were hitting stuff pretty tight

461
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if

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if you

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weren't

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of the caliber

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of hitting things tight from the start,

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The way that they were teaching and instructing

467
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made it to the point where there was

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definite improvement.

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00:18:00,596 --> 00:18:01,789
Well, that's good. That's

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a good mark of a good good program.

471
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That, you know, they can not just about

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shooting. It's about getting better

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because, you know, got shoot. It's whether or

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not you're getting better with what you're doing,

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you know, applying the fundamentals better.

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That's good, was so how did saturday evening

477
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end up

478
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ask him because I know, you know, last

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year. The saturday evening was the fireworks display,

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and

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Kevin having a new location. Was just wondering

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what what kind of,

483
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fireworks did they have or did they?

484
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Actually, they didn't. Oh, okay. By the time...

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By the time everything was wrapping up,

486
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it was starting to rain

487
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Oh, and

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so

489
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they didn't even do the night shoot.

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So they they weren't going to bring the...

491
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They weren't gonna bring the goggles and everything

492
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out for the night shoot

493
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because of the weather.

494
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So, basically, we were just,

495
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again, a, a networking

496
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option or opportunity where we were sitting around

497
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the and just shooting the breeze and,

498
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you know,

499
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I was talking to Kd

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or higher I was talking to Jared

501
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or I was talking to

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Ken

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or,

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you know,

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anybody that

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That I had a notion to to go

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and talk to at the time, you know,

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is

509
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so it was just ultimately

510
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another

511
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laid back networking session as far as Saturday

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night goes

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until we got to the hotel.

514
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Mh. Yeah. Well, that's that's great to have

515
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more because you can

516
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catch up with the onesie you hadn't cut

517
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caught up with them from Friday night and

518
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also,

519
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kind of expand things

520
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you know, from those that you've already talked

521
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to. So

522
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well tell us

523
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how'd things go once to get back to

524
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the hotel in Sunday morning?

525
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Sunday morning, we kinda had some issues if

526
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you haven't.

527
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Heard already.

528
00:20:17,622 --> 00:20:20,015
I know Jared posted a video about it.

529
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There were a couple of vehicles that got

530
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broken into and we had some firearms stolen.

531
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That's

532
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pretty much the downer of the situation of

533
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the entire weekend.

534
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But

535
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other than that,

536
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everybody pretty much went back and went to

537
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bed and

538
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Yep. Well, those

539
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unfortunately,

540
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I mean,

541
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and ways as instructors tell our students this

542
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all the time. You never know

543
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where it's gonna happen when it's gonna happen,

544
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You know, criminals

545
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shoots a time in place for it, and

546
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that's where

547
00:21:06,292 --> 00:21:09,097
you gotta gotta be prepared and unfortunately,

548
00:21:10,693 --> 00:21:12,929
apparently, the criminals got a little bit of

549
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the upper handing, stole some property, but at

550
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least nobody was hurt, which you know, ultimately

551
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is

552
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is a good thing about it.

553
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Yep. Nobody got hurt.

554
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They...

555
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Apparently only hit

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trucks and Suvs.

557
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So if you were in in a

558
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sedan,

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you're pretty much safe.

560
00:21:36,153 --> 00:21:37,982
It was only the trucks and the Suvs

561
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that got hit.

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So

563
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fortunately, the car that I rented was a

564
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a sedan and

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I

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didn't get hit,

567
00:21:52,704 --> 00:21:53,101
but

568
00:21:56,766 --> 00:21:58,516
I know that, like I said, I know

569
00:21:58,516 --> 00:21:58,754
that,

570
00:22:00,663 --> 00:22:03,446
Jared put out a video about the situation,

571
00:22:04,734 --> 00:22:06,515
there were several other

572
00:22:07,055 --> 00:22:09,695
participants that did get hit that have put

573
00:22:09,695 --> 00:22:11,055
stuff on their social media.

574
00:22:13,229 --> 00:22:15,546
Chris L I was tactical Santa. He put

575
00:22:15,546 --> 00:22:16,425
out some stuff,

576
00:22:20,835 --> 00:22:21,654
there was

577
00:22:22,515 --> 00:22:23,154
stuff that,

578
00:22:23,795 --> 00:22:25,234
Clayton put out from

579
00:22:27,315 --> 00:22:27,795
Pt,

580
00:22:29,168 --> 00:22:30,383
I forget his

581
00:22:32,344 --> 00:22:34,250
his training company off the top of my

582
00:22:34,250 --> 00:22:34,488
head.

583
00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:36,632
I know that he...

584
00:22:37,282 --> 00:22:38,710
Posted some stuff about it.

585
00:22:41,249 --> 00:22:43,074
So, yeah, It is it is 1 of

586
00:22:43,074 --> 00:22:43,947
those things of,

587
00:22:46,661 --> 00:22:47,455
I tried to...

588
00:22:48,170 --> 00:22:49,680
I also try to push that through to

589
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:50,633
my students is.

590
00:22:52,794 --> 00:22:55,107
I run Gray man on my vehicle. I

591
00:22:55,107 --> 00:22:55,926
don't have

592
00:22:56,383 --> 00:22:58,856
on my personal vehicle. I have no stickers.

593
00:22:59,095 --> 00:22:59,914
I have no

594
00:23:00,291 --> 00:23:00,791
identifying

595
00:23:04,138 --> 00:23:07,255
Identifying labels that I may or may not

596
00:23:07,255 --> 00:23:09,253
be carrying a firearm or there may be

597
00:23:09,253 --> 00:23:10,611
1 stored in my car.

598
00:23:13,981 --> 00:23:14,380
But

599
00:23:15,976 --> 00:23:17,571
none of the none of the guys that

600
00:23:17,571 --> 00:23:19,566
got... I didn't hit actually were...

601
00:23:20,378 --> 00:23:23,426
Had any of those markings either. Yeah. So

602
00:23:24,199 --> 00:23:25,393
it just makes it interesting.

603
00:23:26,667 --> 00:23:27,383
Yep. Well,

604
00:23:28,910 --> 00:23:30,659
Mike with, you know, a lot of things,

605
00:23:32,249 --> 00:23:32,488
You,

606
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,384
what what the criminals clue in on? You

607
00:23:36,384 --> 00:23:38,869
know, maybe, you know, and knew maybe some

608
00:23:38,869 --> 00:23:39,609
people there

609
00:23:40,069 --> 00:23:41,750
might have guns with in their trucks and

610
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:43,130
Suvs, maybe,

611
00:23:43,430 --> 00:23:45,670
you know, who knows, but at the end

612
00:23:45,670 --> 00:23:47,762
of the day, the criminals, do with criminals

613
00:23:47,762 --> 00:23:49,139
do best, and that is,

614
00:23:49,676 --> 00:23:50,575
you know, they

615
00:23:51,032 --> 00:23:53,664
break the laws. Criminal things. And, you know,

616
00:23:54,063 --> 00:23:55,658
they ruin people's days. So I'm sure a

617
00:23:55,658 --> 00:23:56,637
whole lot of people

618
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:59,503
had to go find some cardboard or sold

619
00:24:00,062 --> 00:24:00,301
you know,

620
00:24:01,099 --> 00:24:03,174
to hang over their window so they could

621
00:24:03,174 --> 00:24:04,211
drive home and

622
00:24:05,264 --> 00:24:05,503
you know,

623
00:24:06,302 --> 00:24:07,979
before they could get it repaired, and, you

624
00:24:07,979 --> 00:24:09,676
know, that would that would really

625
00:24:10,134 --> 00:24:11,651
put a sour note on the whole weekend.

626
00:24:11,891 --> 00:24:13,008
Although at the same time,

627
00:24:15,179 --> 00:24:16,697
you know, with everything else that's going on,

628
00:24:16,857 --> 00:24:18,375
I... You know, if I'd sell anything thing,

629
00:24:18,614 --> 00:24:20,692
it probably probably could been a lot worse.

630
00:24:22,701 --> 00:24:24,924
Well, besides the car getting broken to what

631
00:24:24,924 --> 00:24:26,592
what all happened on Sunday?

632
00:24:28,180 --> 00:24:30,189
So Sunday is the

633
00:24:30,641 --> 00:24:31,277
creation day.

634
00:24:31,927 --> 00:24:32,427
Where

635
00:24:34,234 --> 00:24:35,530
you're able to do

636
00:24:36,382 --> 00:24:36,882
interview

637
00:24:37,257 --> 00:24:37,757
and

638
00:24:38,944 --> 00:24:40,163
speak with the

639
00:24:40,622 --> 00:24:41,761
actual representatives

640
00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:44,638
of the companies that we're sponsoring,

641
00:24:45,497 --> 00:24:46,056
train and learn,

642
00:24:47,508 --> 00:24:50,133
I know last year, Be wasn't actually there.

643
00:24:50,372 --> 00:24:50,872
So

644
00:24:51,406 --> 00:24:51,804
we had...

645
00:24:55,083 --> 00:24:55,881
Amy, and

646
00:24:56,918 --> 00:24:58,296
I think it was Luke

647
00:24:59,950 --> 00:25:00,929
were the

648
00:25:01,387 --> 00:25:01,887
sub

649
00:25:02,597 --> 00:25:05,542
reps for Versa, but we actually had bur

650
00:25:05,542 --> 00:25:06,576
reps there this year.

651
00:25:09,043 --> 00:25:11,271
Tactical life was there again this year.

652
00:25:12,641 --> 00:25:15,669
In primary arms. So and was there,

653
00:25:17,901 --> 00:25:20,548
Patrick was there with Ammo, for anybody that

654
00:25:20,548 --> 00:25:22,546
wanted to shoot anything from the range,

655
00:25:25,582 --> 00:25:26,620
Justin from,

656
00:25:27,100 --> 00:25:27,154
for

657
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:28,570
Phoenix

658
00:25:29,105 --> 00:25:30,242
provided some ammo

659
00:25:30,697 --> 00:25:31,197
for

660
00:25:32,289 --> 00:25:34,678
the actual training, but he was not there,

661
00:25:35,569 --> 00:25:36,685
this year also.

662
00:25:40,275 --> 00:25:43,784
Man wasn't able to show up and z

663
00:25:43,784 --> 00:25:45,162
had to leave early

664
00:25:45,713 --> 00:25:46,192
for

665
00:25:48,425 --> 00:25:48,824
his

666
00:25:49,542 --> 00:25:50,579
kids graduation.

667
00:25:51,695 --> 00:25:53,690
So he was only there for Friday,

668
00:25:58,019 --> 00:25:58,519
but

669
00:25:59,619 --> 00:26:02,419
ultimately, that was another aspect of...

670
00:26:03,553 --> 00:26:06,047
Getting in there and kicking all of these

671
00:26:06,584 --> 00:26:09,854
manufacturer representatives brains and mh. See what they've

672
00:26:09,854 --> 00:26:11,870
got coming down the pike and

673
00:26:14,333 --> 00:26:14,833
finding

674
00:26:15,924 --> 00:26:19,346
finding the nuances of their particular product.

675
00:26:22,544 --> 00:26:24,378
Yeah. 1 of the... What it allows you

676
00:26:24,378 --> 00:26:26,691
to also find about their affiliate programs and

677
00:26:26,691 --> 00:26:28,924
different things like that to, you know, again,

678
00:26:29,084 --> 00:26:29,823
make those

679
00:26:30,201 --> 00:26:31,817
connections because as

680
00:26:32,527 --> 00:26:34,352
we've talked about on podcast before.

681
00:26:34,987 --> 00:26:37,367
If you can make a living off of

682
00:26:37,367 --> 00:26:37,923
this training,

683
00:26:38,637 --> 00:26:40,724
good for you. But most of us is

684
00:26:40,724 --> 00:26:43,605
out there doing training. We also realize that

685
00:26:43,605 --> 00:26:45,605
we've got a lot of other expenses that

686
00:26:45,605 --> 00:26:47,699
we're trying to cover too. And that's where

687
00:26:47,699 --> 00:26:49,696
having affiliates, the ben will go along and

688
00:26:49,696 --> 00:26:51,634
point your students to

689
00:26:52,093 --> 00:26:52,413
quality,

690
00:26:53,291 --> 00:26:56,498
merchandise places to go, and getting a, you

691
00:26:56,498 --> 00:26:58,170
know, a referral fee for it.

692
00:26:59,047 --> 00:27:01,060
It doesn't increase our cost, but it allows

693
00:27:01,197 --> 00:27:03,348
allows you to go along and you know,

694
00:27:04,953 --> 00:27:06,462
make make your classes just a little bit

695
00:27:06,462 --> 00:27:08,051
better or go to, you know, train and

696
00:27:08,051 --> 00:27:09,560
learn events and things like that. I know,

697
00:27:10,593 --> 00:27:12,594
I make more money off my training. And

698
00:27:12,673 --> 00:27:13,947
I do off my affiliates, but at the

699
00:27:13,947 --> 00:27:15,698
same time, I wouldn't give up my affiliates

700
00:27:15,698 --> 00:27:17,449
because I can I can still make some,

701
00:27:17,847 --> 00:27:20,234
you know, decent money to, you know, got

702
00:27:20,234 --> 00:27:21,906
dinner and do things like that every month?

703
00:27:24,233 --> 00:27:24,951
Yeah. It's

704
00:27:26,865 --> 00:27:28,619
I personally have not been able to get

705
00:27:28,619 --> 00:27:29,757
my affiliate programs

706
00:27:30,134 --> 00:27:33,175
up and running yet. I've I've kinda started

707
00:27:33,175 --> 00:27:34,391
to make and

708
00:27:34,846 --> 00:27:37,152
get steps to take that process, but

709
00:27:38,503 --> 00:27:40,753
it hasn't taken off to the point of

710
00:27:41,779 --> 00:27:43,787
even able to get me out to dinner

711
00:27:44,479 --> 00:27:46,249
for for a weekend, but

712
00:27:48,449 --> 00:27:51,013
I am I am looking at at

713
00:27:51,324 --> 00:27:54,200
at running an affiliate program for several of

714
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,700
the

715
00:27:55,159 --> 00:27:56,458
the sponsors from

716
00:27:57,157 --> 00:27:57,956
from train and learn,

717
00:27:59,248 --> 00:28:01,641
I do know that last year when I

718
00:28:01,641 --> 00:28:01,960
was

719
00:28:03,715 --> 00:28:07,623
talking to Ken about the vulcan site,

720
00:28:09,152 --> 00:28:09,469
that

721
00:28:10,818 --> 00:28:12,825
primary arms and Hollow sun

722
00:28:14,547 --> 00:28:16,872
con joined in making and manufacturing

723
00:28:17,418 --> 00:28:19,876
I actually have gone and bought that site.

724
00:28:20,590 --> 00:28:23,920
But primary arms has actually developed their own

725
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:24,238
now.

726
00:28:25,444 --> 00:28:26,162
That is

727
00:28:27,599 --> 00:28:29,355
not in conjunction with Hollow sun.

728
00:28:30,473 --> 00:28:33,048
So it's got that 630

729
00:28:35,596 --> 00:28:39,186
Moa got around it. Mh. Yeah. The the

730
00:28:39,186 --> 00:28:40,404
06:30 Moa

731
00:28:41,101 --> 00:28:44,391
that is to help guide you into the

732
00:28:44,391 --> 00:28:45,190
dot itself.

733
00:28:46,069 --> 00:28:48,967
And that 1, actually, you can turn that

734
00:28:49,026 --> 00:28:50,565
ci... You can turn that

735
00:28:51,119 --> 00:28:51,939
06:30

736
00:28:52,317 --> 00:28:53,196
Moa off.

737
00:28:54,555 --> 00:28:57,511
So it's not always it's on. So once

738
00:28:57,511 --> 00:28:59,202
you get to the point of Okay. Yes.

739
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:01,669
I'm finding the dot every time I present.

740
00:29:02,146 --> 00:29:04,215
I don't need this anymore. You can turn

741
00:29:04,215 --> 00:29:06,284
that off in the new in the new

742
00:29:06,284 --> 00:29:08,606
model that they've got coming out. Mh.

743
00:29:09,162 --> 00:29:10,911
Yeah. Save a little battery power with that.

744
00:29:11,468 --> 00:29:14,568
So were there any specific vendors that you

745
00:29:14,568 --> 00:29:16,317
wanna call out that you besides the 1

746
00:29:16,317 --> 00:29:17,191
you talked about so far?

747
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:19,910
Actually, I called out pretty much all of

748
00:29:19,910 --> 00:29:22,136
them that were there that Good.

749
00:29:24,601 --> 00:29:25,873
Fridge was there also,

750
00:29:27,795 --> 00:29:29,089
So Fridge was there

751
00:29:29,463 --> 00:29:30,678
selling some of his

752
00:29:31,290 --> 00:29:33,934
his custom job and and

753
00:29:35,261 --> 00:29:36,452
guns smith ware.

754
00:29:37,024 --> 00:29:37,345
Mh.

755
00:29:40,144 --> 00:29:42,144
That's... No. Yeah. That's a that's a good

756
00:29:42,144 --> 00:29:42,944
podcast if

757
00:29:43,664 --> 00:29:44,704
anybody hasn't heard the fridge.

758
00:29:45,518 --> 00:29:47,671
I would recommend you go back and find

759
00:29:47,671 --> 00:29:48,171
him

760
00:29:48,628 --> 00:29:49,267
because he's

761
00:29:50,622 --> 00:29:52,935
he comes from not your typical gun background,

762
00:29:53,095 --> 00:29:54,472
and then at same time he's

763
00:29:55,742 --> 00:29:56,242
He's

764
00:29:56,858 --> 00:29:59,490
gone. He's taken he's taken the customization to

765
00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:01,165
a whole new level. So my hat off

766
00:30:01,165 --> 00:30:03,238
to him and the customized work that he

767
00:30:03,238 --> 00:30:03,398
does.

768
00:30:05,802 --> 00:30:06,120
So

769
00:30:06,677 --> 00:30:08,745
yeah, I think that's all the vendors that

770
00:30:08,745 --> 00:30:09,222
were there.

771
00:30:11,862 --> 00:30:14,885
You know, there... There's obviously the vendors that

772
00:30:14,885 --> 00:30:16,635
that weren't there that are still sponsors,

773
00:30:17,271 --> 00:30:17,749
walker,

774
00:30:20,627 --> 00:30:21,605
crate, tactical,

775
00:30:23,093 --> 00:30:23,593
so,

776
00:30:27,484 --> 00:30:30,137
But again, they weren't they weren't

777
00:30:30,754 --> 00:30:33,147
fully representative. They they didn't have any reps

778
00:30:33,147 --> 00:30:36,178
that air to actually talk to for this

779
00:30:36,178 --> 00:30:36,417
year.

780
00:30:37,548 --> 00:30:38,048
So

781
00:30:38,818 --> 00:30:40,962
while they did send stuff for the creative

782
00:30:40,962 --> 00:30:41,279
ways.

783
00:30:41,994 --> 00:30:42,312
Mh.

784
00:30:43,106 --> 00:30:44,718
You weren't able to actually

785
00:30:45,743 --> 00:30:47,576
speak to them about anything.

786
00:30:49,569 --> 00:30:51,242
Yeah. I'm talking about the creative ways,

787
00:30:52,278 --> 00:30:54,048
once you talk about that a little bit

788
00:30:54,048 --> 00:30:55,565
give people an idea of,

789
00:30:56,523 --> 00:30:57,821
what those are, because

790
00:30:58,679 --> 00:31:00,834
Kevin keeps the price of the train and

791
00:31:00,834 --> 00:31:02,590
learn. Very very reasonable.

792
00:31:04,197 --> 00:31:05,015
You've got

793
00:31:05,389 --> 00:31:08,410
plenty of vendors that are, you know, helping

794
00:31:08,410 --> 00:31:10,318
to foot the bill to keep the cost

795
00:31:10,318 --> 00:31:12,398
down. And then on top of the creative

796
00:31:12,398 --> 00:31:15,279
ways are 1 of those that really

797
00:31:16,685 --> 00:31:18,749
helps out or, you know, really really goes

798
00:31:18,749 --> 00:31:21,234
along and can can put put you on

799
00:31:21,234 --> 00:31:23,234
the map very nicely. So what once you

800
00:31:23,234 --> 00:31:24,674
go along tell about those a little bit.

801
00:31:26,115 --> 00:31:28,569
So the creative ways are usually given out

802
00:31:28,769 --> 00:31:29,884
on Sunday.

803
00:31:31,477 --> 00:31:31,977
And

804
00:31:33,070 --> 00:31:34,504
through the course of the weekend,

805
00:31:34,982 --> 00:31:38,183
so through Friday and Saturday and even through

806
00:31:38,343 --> 00:31:38,820
Sunday.

807
00:31:40,730 --> 00:31:41,367
Kevin has...

808
00:31:43,118 --> 00:31:44,175
Kevin has his

809
00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:45,369
little birds

810
00:31:45,919 --> 00:31:48,706
tweeting into his ear of this particular person

811
00:31:48,706 --> 00:31:51,015
is asking the right questions, and I think

812
00:31:51,015 --> 00:31:53,086
that they should be getting in 1 of

813
00:31:53,086 --> 00:31:54,302
the creative way

814
00:31:55,094 --> 00:31:55,493
awards.

815
00:31:57,891 --> 00:31:59,969
So at the end of Sunday,

816
00:32:01,487 --> 00:32:03,026
Kevin goes through and

817
00:32:05,019 --> 00:32:06,940
gives his farewell spiel of

818
00:32:07,900 --> 00:32:08,299
you know,

819
00:32:09,419 --> 00:32:10,720
we're here to

820
00:32:11,339 --> 00:32:12,640
progress our own

821
00:32:13,192 --> 00:32:15,493
business and invest in ourselves.

822
00:32:16,604 --> 00:32:18,350
But in process of doing that,

823
00:32:21,065 --> 00:32:21,565
these

824
00:32:22,416 --> 00:32:22,916
these

825
00:32:23,768 --> 00:32:24,268
sponsors

826
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:25,700
have

827
00:32:26,233 --> 00:32:27,824
also invested need you.

828
00:32:28,874 --> 00:32:29,374
So

829
00:32:29,832 --> 00:32:31,189
these are the people that are going to

830
00:32:31,189 --> 00:32:32,945
be given the creative ways.

831
00:32:33,903 --> 00:32:34,403
And

832
00:32:35,180 --> 00:32:37,415
if you have accepted the create way,

833
00:32:37,987 --> 00:32:39,360
then you need to

834
00:32:39,732 --> 00:32:40,629
produce content

835
00:32:41,319 --> 00:32:42,588
about that create way.

836
00:32:47,372 --> 00:32:47,851
Basically,

837
00:32:48,489 --> 00:32:49,867
advertising the sponsor,

838
00:32:50,724 --> 00:32:53,678
getting your name out there with with that

839
00:32:53,678 --> 00:32:54,157
sponsor,

840
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:57,460
it's

841
00:32:57,993 --> 00:33:00,060
it's ultimately a win win if if you

842
00:33:00,060 --> 00:33:02,603
happen to pull a a creative way from

843
00:33:02,603 --> 00:33:04,193
train and learn. Mh.

844
00:33:05,324 --> 00:33:06,283
Yep. And

845
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:12,116
they give away some good credit ways. And

846
00:33:12,116 --> 00:33:12,915
again, it's

847
00:33:13,569 --> 00:33:15,745
your opportunity go along and

848
00:33:16,202 --> 00:33:17,240
demonstrate to those vendors,

849
00:33:17,958 --> 00:33:21,091
what you can create with their products. And

850
00:33:21,402 --> 00:33:23,783
maybe lead to other things, maybe not, You

851
00:33:23,783 --> 00:33:25,450
know, there's no guarantee, but at the same

852
00:33:25,450 --> 00:33:26,879
time, it really,

853
00:33:28,878 --> 00:33:30,862
Last year when I was there, they gave

854
00:33:30,862 --> 00:33:34,116
away some guns, gave away some sites, gave

855
00:33:34,116 --> 00:33:36,234
away some different things along those lines. And

856
00:33:36,354 --> 00:33:38,505
So that was... And the stuff I gave

857
00:33:38,505 --> 00:33:40,576
away, I would say almost

858
00:33:42,568 --> 00:33:42,807
paid.

859
00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:45,619
You know, it's worth the cost of admission

860
00:33:45,619 --> 00:33:48,179
of the conference. Just to kinda go along

861
00:33:48,179 --> 00:33:49,640
and put a little bit of a

862
00:33:50,259 --> 00:33:51,799
idea in your head about how,

863
00:33:52,353 --> 00:33:54,580
how much they, you know, put into into

864
00:33:54,580 --> 00:33:55,318
it. So

865
00:33:55,772 --> 00:33:56,272
that's

866
00:33:56,726 --> 00:33:57,601
that's great to hear.

867
00:33:58,794 --> 00:33:59,907
Yeah. Tactical life,

868
00:34:00,940 --> 00:34:01,679
the big

869
00:34:02,627 --> 00:34:04,541
the big giveaway was

870
00:34:05,179 --> 00:34:07,332
an Pistol from tactical life,

871
00:34:09,006 --> 00:34:09,746
and Anthony,

872
00:34:13,079 --> 00:34:13,579
actually

873
00:34:13,953 --> 00:34:14,453
designed

874
00:34:14,985 --> 00:34:16,279
and assembled

875
00:34:17,129 --> 00:34:19,590
the Ar pistol that they gave away this

876
00:34:19,590 --> 00:34:19,907
year,

877
00:34:21,911 --> 00:34:24,615
Brown ellis. Brown ellis is another sponsor that,

878
00:34:25,888 --> 00:34:27,183
they didn't have any

879
00:34:27,558 --> 00:34:28,592
representation this year, but

880
00:34:29,324 --> 00:34:29,824
B

881
00:34:31,394 --> 00:34:34,102
put up ACAR

882
00:34:34,102 --> 00:34:34,421
upper,

883
00:34:36,651 --> 00:34:37,390
the old

884
00:34:38,578 --> 00:34:41,611
h u style with the carrie handle and

885
00:34:41,611 --> 00:34:42,111
the

886
00:34:42,888 --> 00:34:44,484
the triangle hand guard,

887
00:34:46,810 --> 00:34:47,310
So

888
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,097
brown elves put that up for for the

889
00:34:51,097 --> 00:34:51,811
creative away.

890
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,653
So, yeah, they they

891
00:34:58,267 --> 00:35:01,371
they gave way of a good a good

892
00:35:01,371 --> 00:35:03,463
share of of stuff that

893
00:35:03,932 --> 00:35:05,307
that now all of these

894
00:35:06,557 --> 00:35:09,682
these winners need to be creating content. So

895
00:35:10,788 --> 00:35:13,091
I'm looking for that content to start dropping

896
00:35:13,091 --> 00:35:13,806
here anytime.

897
00:35:15,076 --> 00:35:15,576
Lots

898
00:35:17,061 --> 00:35:18,197
that's very

899
00:35:19,144 --> 00:35:21,644
interesting and just considering this was

900
00:35:21,945 --> 00:35:23,945
train learn done over memorial day weekend.

901
00:35:24,585 --> 00:35:25,085
I

902
00:35:25,465 --> 00:35:26,284
would imagine

903
00:35:26,918 --> 00:35:29,380
being July right now, that we probably should

904
00:35:29,380 --> 00:35:30,039
be seeing

905
00:35:30,413 --> 00:35:31,842
some of that if not already.

906
00:35:32,557 --> 00:35:35,496
So search train learn 20 24, and I'm

907
00:35:35,496 --> 00:35:36,154
sure you'll

908
00:35:36,544 --> 00:35:37,760
you'll see some of the content

909
00:35:38,376 --> 00:35:38,774
and

910
00:35:39,331 --> 00:35:41,004
give some some kind of ideas for it.

911
00:35:43,792 --> 00:35:44,349
Hey, Brian.

912
00:35:45,878 --> 00:35:48,510
Great review of Train learn 20 24, but

913
00:35:48,510 --> 00:35:49,888
we've been asking all our

914
00:35:50,824 --> 00:35:51,860
season 7 guests,

915
00:35:52,897 --> 00:35:54,492
what do you do for your mental health

916
00:35:54,492 --> 00:35:54,891
every day?

917
00:35:58,172 --> 00:35:58,411
Well,

918
00:35:59,446 --> 00:36:01,197
as I already said, I've been... I was

919
00:36:01,197 --> 00:36:01,755
ready for this.

920
00:36:04,158 --> 00:36:04,396
I

921
00:36:06,142 --> 00:36:08,126
I try to keep a routine as much

922
00:36:08,126 --> 00:36:09,237
as I can in the morning,

923
00:36:10,190 --> 00:36:11,063
the same thing.

924
00:36:11,793 --> 00:36:13,547
Every day in the morning.

925
00:36:14,584 --> 00:36:16,259
And then 1 of the things that I

926
00:36:16,259 --> 00:36:16,817
do that,

927
00:36:18,491 --> 00:36:20,427
not many people have ever mentioned

928
00:36:20,739 --> 00:36:21,935
is that I journal.

929
00:36:26,161 --> 00:36:28,575
Especially if I'm particularly having a

930
00:36:30,242 --> 00:36:32,807
a rough day or a a bad day

931
00:36:32,942 --> 00:36:36,041
or or something that is bringing me down,

932
00:36:36,517 --> 00:36:37,652
I will journal

933
00:36:38,678 --> 00:36:39,417
so that

934
00:36:40,510 --> 00:36:42,898
when I end up having another bad day

935
00:36:42,898 --> 00:36:44,809
or something similar, I can go back and

936
00:36:44,889 --> 00:36:45,765
I say, okay.

937
00:36:47,452 --> 00:36:49,835
This stretch of period of this period of

938
00:36:49,835 --> 00:36:52,617
time and this this stretch of events,

939
00:36:54,859 --> 00:36:56,936
this is something that I was going through,

940
00:36:57,895 --> 00:37:00,473
and I've journal that, and then

941
00:37:01,012 --> 00:37:02,390
I've journal the,

942
00:37:02,864 --> 00:37:05,411
coming out of it or the recovery if

943
00:37:05,411 --> 00:37:05,889
you will.

944
00:37:06,924 --> 00:37:07,424
So

945
00:37:08,915 --> 00:37:11,557
there's that record now for me, to be

946
00:37:11,557 --> 00:37:12,749
able to go back and say,

947
00:37:13,385 --> 00:37:15,770
this is just something like this. I can

948
00:37:15,770 --> 00:37:16,565
get through this.

949
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:17,780
And

950
00:37:19,284 --> 00:37:20,639
this is how I got through it the

951
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:21,437
last time.

952
00:37:23,112 --> 00:37:23,612
So

953
00:37:24,388 --> 00:37:24,888
that's

954
00:37:25,266 --> 00:37:28,057
probably the biggest thing that I do for

955
00:37:28,057 --> 00:37:28,775
my mental health.

956
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:30,308
Then I also...

957
00:37:31,906 --> 00:37:33,445
I do have a counseling

958
00:37:33,824 --> 00:37:36,800
session every week with a therapist. So

959
00:37:37,673 --> 00:37:39,267
What's, yep. That's

960
00:37:40,224 --> 00:37:42,217
very good. And thanks for sharing that Brian,

961
00:37:42,536 --> 00:37:42,934
because

962
00:37:44,050 --> 00:37:45,246
I go along tell people.

963
00:37:46,775 --> 00:37:49,483
Nobody thinks twice about going to the gym

964
00:37:49,483 --> 00:37:52,590
and having a personal trainer. So there's no

965
00:37:52,590 --> 00:37:54,954
reason why shouldn't go along and,

966
00:37:55,630 --> 00:37:55,949
potentially,

967
00:37:56,585 --> 00:37:56,903
you know,

968
00:37:57,938 --> 00:37:59,608
meet up with the, you know, somebody,

969
00:38:00,165 --> 00:38:02,724
you know, whatever the title be, that will

970
00:38:02,724 --> 00:38:04,552
help you in your mental health about it.

971
00:38:04,790 --> 00:38:07,015
It's mental health is 1 of those that

972
00:38:07,015 --> 00:38:08,605
everybody's been listening to in season 7.

973
00:38:09,494 --> 00:38:10,710
But I really think

974
00:38:11,245 --> 00:38:13,155
you know, really gotta take the stigma away

975
00:38:13,155 --> 00:38:15,384
from it that mental health is you know,

976
00:38:15,543 --> 00:38:16,498
just like physical health.

977
00:38:17,533 --> 00:38:20,331
And some people, you know, go see a

978
00:38:20,331 --> 00:38:22,634
doctor to have this fix with that fixed,

979
00:38:22,793 --> 00:38:24,620
and we should be doing the same type

980
00:38:24,620 --> 00:38:26,764
of thing if we feel that we're in

981
00:38:26,764 --> 00:38:28,694
some kind some kind of crisis

982
00:38:29,244 --> 00:38:31,721
to talk to somebody for our mental health

983
00:38:31,721 --> 00:38:34,378
because it's they're both very important to

984
00:38:34,917 --> 00:38:35,876
to stay healthy with.

985
00:38:37,888 --> 00:38:40,602
Well, Brian, can you tell our listeners where

986
00:38:40,602 --> 00:38:43,177
they can find more information about Peloton Academy

987
00:38:43,316 --> 00:38:43,715
and

988
00:38:44,353 --> 00:38:45,630
how to get get in touch with you?

989
00:38:47,323 --> 00:38:47,563
No,

990
00:38:49,001 --> 00:38:49,959
My socials are

991
00:38:50,758 --> 00:38:51,157
Facebook,

992
00:38:51,797 --> 00:38:52,835
Pal Academy.

993
00:38:53,409 --> 00:38:56,455
I've got my website, which is Michigan

994
00:38:58,183 --> 00:39:00,354
PALLC

995
00:39:01,286 --> 00:39:01,843
dot com.

996
00:39:04,972 --> 00:39:07,768
All the links actually to my socials are

997
00:39:07,768 --> 00:39:08,728
on my website.

998
00:39:09,527 --> 00:39:10,027
So

999
00:39:10,725 --> 00:39:11,125
Twitter,

1000
00:39:13,210 --> 00:39:15,119
I've got a rumble account. I haven't put

1001
00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:16,073
any videos up,

1002
00:39:16,789 --> 00:39:17,186
but

1003
00:39:17,982 --> 00:39:20,541
I've got a rumble account and that... The

1004
00:39:20,541 --> 00:39:23,003
link for that is on my Facebook. But

1005
00:39:23,003 --> 00:39:25,782
everything is pretty much Pilot and Academy or

1006
00:39:25,941 --> 00:39:26,814
Pal inn Academy,

1007
00:39:27,529 --> 00:39:27,767
Llc,

1008
00:39:28,418 --> 00:39:30,509
or PAL

1009
00:39:30,567 --> 00:39:30,726
llc.

1010
00:39:32,715 --> 00:39:35,261
Okay. And I'll include some of those into

1011
00:39:35,261 --> 00:39:36,614
the show notes too, so you can...

1012
00:39:37,664 --> 00:39:39,021
People can find it that they wanna reach

1013
00:39:39,021 --> 00:39:40,457
out to you. If they're in

1014
00:39:41,015 --> 00:39:43,170
northern northern Indiana or Southern,

1015
00:39:44,127 --> 00:39:44,367
Michigan.

1016
00:39:45,579 --> 00:39:45,739
Yep.

1017
00:39:46,697 --> 00:39:49,014
Well, Brian, again, thank you for your time

1018
00:39:49,014 --> 00:39:49,754
today for

1019
00:39:50,212 --> 00:39:51,890
reviewing the train learn 20 24.

1020
00:39:52,465 --> 00:39:55,744
And, hopefully, the people listening, will be encouraged

1021
00:39:55,744 --> 00:39:56,224
to

1022
00:39:56,704 --> 00:39:58,965
sign up now because it will sell out

1023
00:39:59,105 --> 00:40:01,344
for train learn 20 25. Do you have

1024
00:40:01,344 --> 00:40:03,834
the dates for 20 25. By any chance?

1025
00:40:04,233 --> 00:40:06,226
It's gonna be... It's still gonna be memorial

1026
00:40:06,226 --> 00:40:07,843
day weekend. Okay. So

1027
00:40:08,619 --> 00:40:11,591
whatever whatever happens to fall that

1028
00:40:11,982 --> 00:40:14,124
Friday, Saturday, Sunday before Memorial day.

1029
00:40:15,155 --> 00:40:17,693
Okay. Well, I'll include that because, like I

1030
00:40:17,693 --> 00:40:17,852
said,

1031
00:40:18,899 --> 00:40:20,273
kinda keep it on my calendar

1032
00:40:20,885 --> 00:40:22,952
to hopefully make it, and

1033
00:40:23,428 --> 00:40:25,517
hopefully, See other people

1034
00:40:26,864 --> 00:40:27,684
there also

1035
00:40:28,065 --> 00:40:30,545
because it is a fun time, and

1036
00:40:32,385 --> 00:40:33,505
it's very much worth it.

1037
00:40:34,479 --> 00:40:37,036
Okay. Brian, have a good good evening, and

1038
00:40:37,036 --> 00:40:39,833
thanks again. Yep. Thanks, sir. As a wrap

1039
00:40:39,833 --> 00:40:41,351
for this episode, and I hope you found

1040
00:40:41,351 --> 00:40:42,550
the information from Brian.

1041
00:40:43,444 --> 00:40:43,842
Useful.

1042
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,233
Sounds like I missed a good train and

1043
00:40:46,233 --> 00:40:48,942
learn event. But as we all have other

1044
00:40:48,942 --> 00:40:51,109
things we do besides it's firearm training. We

1045
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:53,103
do have conflicts from time to time. So

1046
00:40:53,103 --> 00:40:54,858
hopefully I'll make it in 20 25.

1047
00:40:55,336 --> 00:40:58,367
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1050
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search upper parade hand corner there. Also had

1051
00:41:06,515 --> 00:41:08,827
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1052
00:41:08,827 --> 00:41:09,385
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1053
00:41:10,037 --> 00:41:12,105
Last year on different topics. So there's a

1054
00:41:12,105 --> 00:41:14,173
lot of good information that I got from...

1055
00:41:14,730 --> 00:41:16,083
Currently to learn 20 23,

1056
00:41:16,734 --> 00:41:18,484
Brian came back a lot of good information

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00:41:18,484 --> 00:41:19,518
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00:41:19,995 --> 00:41:21,825
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00:41:21,825 --> 00:41:22,461
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1060
00:41:23,177 --> 00:41:25,166
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