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Hey, friends. Welcome to Episode 1 80 of

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the fierce calling podcast. I'm your host, Doris

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Swift. Welcome to the show. So glad to

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have you this week, We have guest S

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Har ritchie. You're gonna love this guest so

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much. I'm so thankful to Stefan sell of

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the Gospel spice podcast. She is the host

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of that podcast. She introduced us. And she

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is great about connecting people. So thank you.

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Stephanie for connecting S in in me so

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she could be on the show. The

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episode title is intrigued by faith, how wanna

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agnostic discovered god's redeeming love.

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We're talking all about her story and she's

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sharing how

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she has what she calls broken past and

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ugly past,

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and

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she had so many things in her past

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that were really hard things like c dependency

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and an abortion

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abused divorce, but god has redeemed all of

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that broken past. And, she was exposed to

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so many different religions, and she's gonna share

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that, but how

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the

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authenticity and genuine faith that she observed into

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Christian friends when she went to a bible

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study that really intrigued her.

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And so it's... It's just a fascinating story

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you wanna listen in.

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And also, fran, if you are looking for

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speaker, I would love to have a chat

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so check out my speaking page at doris

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with dot com or at my profile at

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women's speakers dot com.

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This episode is amazing. It's filled was serious

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and sensitive subjects,

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but you'll also find it light and fun.

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I don't know if I've laughed as much

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with Any other guest is I have with

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S. She is truly joyful and I know

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what she shares will encourage, inspire and challenge

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you. So listen in while I have a

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chat. With S Har.

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What is threatening to steal your joy?

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What is it that feels so heavy?

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Right now

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that you could barely stand.

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God has a plan,

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and his plan is

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to surrender it.

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Surrender it to him.

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It might be a prod,

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It might be

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a relationship, a marriage,

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something with your job.

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So many things. We have so many amazing

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blessings,

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but there are so many things in our

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life. The threaten to steal our joy.

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I'm Doris Swift,

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Author of the award winning 6 week bible

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study,

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surrender the Joy Steelers red the Jesus Joy

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in you. And it helps women red

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the overflowing ever present Jesus joy within

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that fills,

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empowers

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and ripen the fruit that god produces in

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our lives.

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Using personal and biblical stories.

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I share how you can identify your joy

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dealers,

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surrender them to God, re awake the joy

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within

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and share the joy with others.

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You can do it on your own or

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with a group.

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If you're looking for a bible study for

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this summer,

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check it out friends,

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surrender the joyce dealers.

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Red the Jesus joy in you.

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It's available

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on all the online retailers.

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It's time to take your joy back.

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Welcome back to the show. Today I am

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very excited to introduce you to my friend,

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S Rei,

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She is a passionate bible teacher, award winning

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author, a speaker and a coach. She has

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a heart for seeing lives transformed by the

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power of God's word, and she holds a

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master's in biblical and theological studies, as well

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as a master's in criminal justice. That's fascinating

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to me. I might be asking a little

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about that, S. Welcome to the show, so

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great to have you.

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Oh, Doris. Thank you for having me. This

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is a joy. I'm I'm Excited to get

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started. Too. I feel like... I've gotten to

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know you just by checking out your website.

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It's the coolest thing. You share so many

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great tidbits about yourself. Which I love, you

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know? And it just kind of brings out

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the connection that people might see, oh, I

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did that too. Like you were talking about

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you always loved piano and you took lessons

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and everything,

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but it wasn't something that... I mean, you're

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not gonna be playing in the in the

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Phil Harmon group.

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playing any any place on this. On a

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stage with a microphone Yes. Story. I love

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the piano, and we We got a piano.

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I always wanna take lessons when I was

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a child, and then we...

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I was working at a bank and a

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friend was moving, and she was selling her

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piano. So I bought her piano, started taking

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lessons when I was an adult, the kids

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were still younger.

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I I could play these pieces, but it

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wasn't like,

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I could sit down at a piano right

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this moment and just crank something out. Like,

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I couldn't... It took me, like, a week

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to learn a piece, and then I could

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play it or even for a rec recycle

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and then it was, like, gone. But

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and I did the little re recycled and

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so forth, and and I I took I

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continued with it a little bit into my

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early adult years, but the truth was I

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simply I love the piano, and I love,

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you know, like, all my favorite most of

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my favorite worship songs you can hear the

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Piano as a background. I that's part of

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it, You know? But I just don't have

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a natural ability. So I gotta let's, you

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know, let that go.

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I've kinda let mine go to.

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piano as well, so I really clicked and

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connected when I read that part of your

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story, but I would love if you would

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share with our listeners today.

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Some of your story. However the Lord leads

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and how you're currently taking action where your

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passion, compassion and conviction intersect.

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a little bit about me.

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I'm first generation American, both of my parents

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immigrated to

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to the states from other countries. My father

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came from Morocco, and my mother came from

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Latvia.

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from 1 hemisphere. They met in New York

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City the melting pot of the world, and

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that's where I grew up.

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challenges.

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I mean, even before I was born,

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when they got pregnant. Mh And,

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my... I only learned this made many years

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my grandmother

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was was was trying to... You know, pressuring

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my mom to consider getting an abortion. Thinking

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it was the best thing for her like,

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you're not ready.

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no No. Let's let's get married. And so

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even right from before I was born, I

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see God's hand.

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some of that background.

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my parents,

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sadly, by parents divorced when I was 12,

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so that was pretty rough. That's a rough

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age, you know,

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began, you know, making a lot of mistakes,

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a lot of poor choices,

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found myself pregnant at the age of 15,

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my mom felt it was best for me

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to get an abortion, which I did.

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didn't mention that, like, we weren't Raised Christian.

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you know, that was sort of

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making some self destructive choices after that.

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rough. I mean, you know,

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know, the the tough highlights just to give

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as a as a young adult,

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ended up meeting a,

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a man who was

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an alcoholic and abusive, and I was kinda

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c dependent and an enabler, you know, this

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kinda dysfunction.

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we ended up staying together for 14 years

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because our dysfunction worked together.

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sad but common reality. You know? And, yeah.

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study where I, you know, heard about God

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for the first time and I'm like, gosh,

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this is very different because... So let me

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give you a little background really My father

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was raised moderate muslim. My mother was raised

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Lutheran, but not really

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practicing. My

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former husband was Catholic. My best friend was

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buddhist, and my step is jewish. Hope.

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it's like, I had all these people in

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my life with all these different religions,

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and it and it and it just, you

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know, God began a little journey to open

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my eyes to the truth.

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when that happens,

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truly got saved me and changed me, and

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and I recognize recognized my need for him

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and so forth.

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even in the beginning that little

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transformation that dysfunctional pattern that I had in

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my marriage wasn't working anymore because I was

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breaking the cycle,

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and sadly, he filed for divorce.

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know, I got saved and divorce in the

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same year.

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those stories that I just shared

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when I tell my story as I'm doing

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now or through the materials I write and

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Because he has redeemed it. He truly truly

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has redeemed it. He has given me

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such joy

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in

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studying and exploring and teaching the stories in

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the Bible

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of people who also experienced

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really tough heartache.

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Or felt alone or hurt

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or they were betrayed or abused in some

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way. I mean, those are the stories. I

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call them the messy stories in the Bible.

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And

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and I feel like that's where that intersection

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comes in. It's, like, my passion is

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to to wants know god and share who

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God is with others

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but also to reach those who like myself,

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like, gosh. I've got it. Like, you know,

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can god really can god really redeem this

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hot mess, you know,

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Oh, yes, He can. You know, Oh, yes,

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He can. And so

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yeah. So so many years after I became

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a Christian after a lot of healing, a

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lot heart work,

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God called me to go to seminary, which

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is a kind of a funny story. I

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can talk about it if you want me

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to. But

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it wasn't expected. It all is all I

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can say, You know, never kind of expected

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that. And then after seminary just began writing

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these files studies on these wild people the

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studio you know stories that we just don't

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talk about very often. Yeah.

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I love that. But, you know, how you're

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talking about the hot mess stuff, but I

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do love that. It's in the Bible, like,

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you know, god didn't leave us. Oh. Yeah.

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So the connection that you have felt with

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these different. And I you know, we sometimes

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tend to say characters in the Bible. They're

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real people. You know? Sometimes we think of

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characters is like, out a sitcom or something.

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But these real

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true to life people

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and really reading their story and putting ourselves

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in that place, like, to not just glaze

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over it or gloss over it and really

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dive deep into it. So I love how

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you

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were drawn to write these studies based on

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these different people in the Bible

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who you felt connected with

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and also felt like it was gonna be

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a message of hope for other people because

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God obviously gave you these

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studies to write, and I also love earlier

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how you were talking about. You are exposed

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to so many different

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face,

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but none of them really had faith

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until you came to the chair.

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It kind of

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like, right there in your face, like the

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truth and how it changed you,

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and you saw something different in that when

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you went to that bible study,

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Do you remember what study it was Was

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it was it a general study just that

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as out of the bible? Or...

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Yeah. It was a it was a smaller

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church that we have been invited too. It

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was still married at the time, you know?

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And I... Actually, it was even fine that

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we ended up in the study at all

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because I wasn't invited. It was... My former

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husband was invited. He was raised catholic.

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And so he was he was he was

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like, even though... He likes the people that

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invited him. And so he comes him, and

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he says, we're gonna go to this bible

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study and front... I'm like, what's a viable

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study. And what does that mean? I mean,

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I... You know, I had never even gone

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to sunday school. I don't I don't... And

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and we met in a bar.

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You know, It's like, you wanna go to

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a bible. I don't... It just made a

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click. And I'm like, it did not click,

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you know, But so we go. Mh. And

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yeah, like, as I was sharing, I've just,

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you know, having been exposed to all of

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these different religions people who had group grown

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up in different various states. And then to

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come to this group of people,

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who were loving, sincere friendly,

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normal, you know, And yet, they had an

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honest, true heart

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soul and mind

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conviction

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that they believed what they said they believed.

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And I had never seen that before. Yeah.

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And I and And I was intrigued. I

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I mean, I was I was attracted to

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it, but not... I mean, I was more

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like intrigued initially, like, okay.

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They believe this...

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I believe the, kind of the opposite almost,

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you know, like... And I mean, I wasn't

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convinced there was no god because that's pretty

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arrogant, like, how would I know? You know?

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But I certainly,

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wasn't agnostic. Mh. You know Like, I... Like,

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I don't know. If there is a god,

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but I have no basis to believe there

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is. So that's kinda where I was. And

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yet, here are these people that I...

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It was appreciating and enjoying and

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respecting them,

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all different walks of life, you know, and

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their faith was just

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intriguing to me. And And I and I'm

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I'm kind of a black and white person

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sudden black and white think are very analytical

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kind of person.

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And so, you know, in my mind, I'm

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like, well, either they're right or I'm right.

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You know, we we both can't be right.

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You know, this concept today, like, your truth

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is your truth. I was like, you, I'm

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sorry. Truth is truth. Yeah. You know, either

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size is blue

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or it's not. Do you know, 2 plus

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2 is 4 or it's, you know, That's

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how I

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and so, you know, I'm like, okay. 1

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of us is wrong. You know,

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either, the way I'm thinking is wrong or

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the way they're thinking is wrong. And

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you know, to god, and he's a great

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actually to tell you funny a quick story.

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I was

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you know... So I was going to this

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bible study, I'm listening, and I'm hearing about

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the bible, and, you, I had never opened

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a bible didn't even own a Bible?

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But

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but I wanted to figure out, like, okay,

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is this real? Or is this not real?

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You know? So I I felt... I go...

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And and I'm also an avid reader, Like,

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just... I've been a book form since I

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was... Since I could read. My mom actually

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kept the stack of shoot in a shoe

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a reader the year award because I wanted

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every year for for how much... I was

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just a v reader. So I'm a reader.

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So I go to the Christian bookstore,

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And and I know, I never been in

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there before. I don't hardly know what I'm

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looking for, But I knew I wanted some

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books, you know, to help me. And so

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a salesperson comes up, but he's trying to

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be helpful. And he says, you know, you,

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can I help you what you look for?

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Says, I'm trying to find a book for

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somebody

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who's trying to figure out if God is

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real?

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And so the guy thinking,

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you know, I figured this out later. He's

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thinking I'm asking for a friend. Like, I

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must be a Christian, and I'm trying to,

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you know,

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witness to a friend? He's like, well, tell

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me about this person, You know, how how

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old are they? Did they grow up in

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the church? What do they believe? Because he's

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trying to help figure out what resources do

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give me And he was as, all these

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questions. I finally just looked at him and

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I said,

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well, it's for me.

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And I could just see like the light

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shiny. You know, it's like, in a head.

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He's probably going, like, oh, we got potty

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woman

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you know, like, they're so excited.

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And bless are, you know, he piled me

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up with this the stack of books I

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read them all,

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and, you know, God just really began chipping

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away at the the false beliefs that I

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had been trained,

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believe without question.

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You know, and and and I was being

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challenged by these resources and also the the

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people in the study to quest gym? Like,

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okay. Well, you believe that, what does it

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look like? How does it work? You know,

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is evolution real? If, you know, if... How

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did the world come in existence? At what

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about humans and... What about love? What you

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know, all these different things. And it really

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started rattling my world, like, you know, I

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I recognized the things that I believe in

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did not have a strong foundation.

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And so,

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you know, after about 6 months,

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I came to the realization, there has to

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be a God.

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But the next question was is, like, okay,

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but then is Jesus Scott. You know, that's

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what this group had been saying, you know,

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Jesus god, the god of the Bible is

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the true god, you know, and I'm like,

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how is that? It sounds almost too good

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to be true.

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Oh, I mean, he just... It felt to

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me like,

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you know, the story of the gospel in

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a sense to me at that time felt

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like a fairy tale that I was afraid

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to believe and be let down and lied

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to. You know? Yeah

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it's just too good to be true.

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But God and his mercy

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began you know, just working in different ways.

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And he actually... You know, I kinda jumped

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ahead earlier

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when I said my my former husband filed

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for divorce. He did, but that was a

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few months later on. But before that happened,

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you know, he's still going to this bible

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study also.

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On his own journey, you know? And he

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began... His behaviors began to change. You know,

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He wasn't as abusive. He wasn't as foul

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mouth. He wasn't his you know, drinking as

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much.

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And for me at the stage that I

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was at, it was sort of, like my

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personal miracle, like, God was showing the power

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that he can't have in someone's life if

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they're willing.

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And it was just the piece that I

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needed, you know, to to come face to

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face. Because I understood sin again, being that

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black and white person I remember with the

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pastor was like, well, do you believe you're

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a sinner? You know? And bless his heart.

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He meant, you know, but but I think

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he was expecting me to say, well, I'm

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not a bad person, you know, I've did,

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you know, did a few things. But, you

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know, I'm not like Hitler, this 1 that

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1. But I looked and it was like,

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oh, yeah. I am a sinner. Like, if

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that's 1 it is. I mean, I was

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sunk at 14, you know. And and and

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he was kinda of funny because I think

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it took them a little bit by surprise.

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But

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You know, science so I understood that. I

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understood

541
00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:07,263
my need for salvation if if there is

542
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a true god that I've offended with my

543
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sin.

544
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And

545
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but then seeing, my former husband changed was

546
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sort of, like, that little piece of

547
00:19:16,421 --> 00:19:17,771
miracle in my life. And I and I

548
00:19:17,771 --> 00:19:18,803
gave my heart to the lord,

549
00:19:19,454 --> 00:19:21,366
I asked him to forgive me and, you

550
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know, wanted him to be my savior and

551
00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,315
my lord for the rest of my life

552
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and he truly truly opened my eyes.

553
00:19:27,278 --> 00:19:30,141
Sadly, my former husband within a few weeks

554
00:19:30,141 --> 00:19:32,607
had really slipped back to exactly where he

555
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was before.

556
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And then he filed for divorce. See it

557
00:19:36,695 --> 00:19:38,615
reminds me of the the parable of the

558
00:19:38,615 --> 00:19:41,174
soils that Jesus teaches and, you know, how

559
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some have that... They they they they initially

560
00:19:43,661 --> 00:19:45,721
spring up because they're excited and they're hearing

561
00:19:45,721 --> 00:19:48,733
it the gospel, but they never develop any

562
00:19:48,733 --> 00:19:51,208
root. They never really take hold of who...

563
00:19:51,367 --> 00:19:53,673
Of God in their lives, and so they

564
00:19:53,673 --> 00:19:56,852
fall away. And sadly, that's that's what happened.

565
00:19:57,488 --> 00:19:59,022
But God continue to

566
00:19:59,969 --> 00:20:02,361
grow me and teach me and Yeah. Had

567
00:20:02,361 --> 00:20:03,180
a lot of

568
00:20:03,717 --> 00:20:04,515
beautiful. Yeah.

569
00:20:05,313 --> 00:20:06,669
Story when you when you look at it,

570
00:20:06,828 --> 00:20:08,583
like you were saying earlier, you could see

571
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god's

572
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hand print on everything.

573
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And how

574
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you had even when you didn't have

575
00:20:16,188 --> 00:20:18,745
the firm foundation, like, when you were agnostic

576
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or considering yourself at an agnostic,

577
00:20:22,029 --> 00:20:22,768
you had

578
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enough of that foundation to know that there's

579
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either truth or not.

580
00:20:28,101 --> 00:20:30,085
You know, and not the whole buying into

581
00:20:30,085 --> 00:20:32,386
the lie of everybody has their own truth.

582
00:20:32,545 --> 00:20:34,053
You know, what's true for you is good

583
00:20:34,053 --> 00:20:36,329
for you. What's good, you know, if you

584
00:20:36,449 --> 00:20:38,762
feels good do. You know, whatever the world,

585
00:20:39,081 --> 00:20:42,112
you know, messages are for everybody to find

586
00:20:42,112 --> 00:20:44,345
their truth, and there's only 1 truth, Jesus,

587
00:20:44,585 --> 00:20:45,701
the way the truth and the life.

588
00:20:46,434 --> 00:20:48,900
Of so I I think that's fantastic. And

589
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then plus, he just... He created you to

590
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be this avid reader

591
00:20:53,449 --> 00:20:55,687
that you were so hungry to read, and

592
00:20:55,687 --> 00:20:58,004
he just knew okay. And then you're saying,

593
00:20:58,563 --> 00:21:01,300
what is a bible study? He's probably going

594
00:21:01,773 --> 00:21:03,995
wait till you see what's gonna happen next

595
00:21:03,995 --> 00:21:04,709
for you, S.

596
00:21:05,582 --> 00:21:07,407
You're gonna write these things. You don't even

597
00:21:07,407 --> 00:21:09,550
know what they are. You know, it's... I

598
00:21:09,550 --> 00:21:11,400
didn't even know what they were. Yeah. That's

599
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,279
really wild. Wild. Very cool. Yeah. So then...

600
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:16,519
I love that. What happened after that. Okay?

601
00:21:16,679 --> 00:21:19,174
So then you you went to seminary. You

602
00:21:19,174 --> 00:21:21,494
you were called to that. And and then

603
00:21:21,494 --> 00:21:23,654
how did this journey begin where you felt

604
00:21:23,654 --> 00:21:25,255
like you were gonna write these studies. And

605
00:21:25,335 --> 00:21:27,028
I love the fact like, we were saying

606
00:21:27,028 --> 00:21:27,506
earlier.

607
00:21:27,905 --> 00:21:29,522
If you could go through the different

608
00:21:30,138 --> 00:21:32,053
stories that you've written, the bible stories that

609
00:21:32,053 --> 00:21:32,531
you've written,

610
00:21:33,169 --> 00:21:36,414
and then, the bible studies rather, and then

611
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I love the tagline lines

612
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of them because

613
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they are

614
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meaningful and purposeful to the person who's going

615
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through, and it makes it

616
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personal

617
00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,039
for us to see, like Ray hat just

618
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red discovering the god who sees me. And

619
00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,200
I love how you said red discover. When

620
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I wrote my bible study,

621
00:21:56,452 --> 00:21:59,588
surrender the joyce dealers. I purposely said red

622
00:21:59,648 --> 00:22:00,148
discover

623
00:22:00,686 --> 00:22:02,857
the Jesus joy in you. Because it's not

624
00:22:02,857 --> 00:22:05,828
something that wasn't there before, like, just red

625
00:22:05,887 --> 00:22:07,960
it. Mh. And then someone had said, well,

626
00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,272
why isn't it just discover? And I said,

627
00:22:10,352 --> 00:22:10,511
well,

628
00:22:11,244 --> 00:22:13,558
my audience is people who know who know

629
00:22:13,638 --> 00:22:14,037
Jesus,

630
00:22:14,515 --> 00:22:17,707
but they've just forgotten that they have this

631
00:22:17,707 --> 00:22:18,105
joy.

632
00:22:19,079 --> 00:22:20,996
So that's why I love how all of

633
00:22:20,996 --> 00:22:22,035
your tag lines...

634
00:22:22,594 --> 00:22:24,511
Because I think they all have that word

635
00:22:24,511 --> 00:22:27,627
red discovering. Right? Yeah. This... The so... So

636
00:22:27,627 --> 00:22:28,262
the series,

637
00:22:29,134 --> 00:22:30,799
there's 4 books of the series right now,

638
00:22:31,037 --> 00:22:33,201
and they are all... So the first 1

639
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that I wrote was a H ga.

640
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And so that 1 is, H. Red discovering

641
00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:39,669
the god who sees me. And, actually, she

642
00:22:39,669 --> 00:22:42,150
was the inspiration for the entire series.

643
00:22:42,964 --> 00:22:45,622
And then because the series title is

644
00:22:47,519 --> 00:22:47,679
on,

645
00:22:48,557 --> 00:22:50,555
exploring the Bible un some heroes.

646
00:22:51,209 --> 00:22:53,203
And so, hey Was the first 1, and

647
00:22:53,203 --> 00:22:55,516
then Legion was the second 1 I wrote,

648
00:22:55,915 --> 00:22:57,590
and that one's called red rediscovered god who

649
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:59,982
rescues me based on the man possessed by

650
00:22:59,982 --> 00:23:01,513
the demons Jesus rescues.

651
00:23:02,071 --> 00:23:03,666
History is astounding.

652
00:23:04,304 --> 00:23:06,776
And then, tam tomorrow, you and daughters love,

653
00:23:06,936 --> 00:23:08,929
red discovering the God who redeem me, and

654
00:23:08,929 --> 00:23:11,198
then Ray have which just came out. Red

655
00:23:11,255 --> 00:23:13,958
the God who saves me. And so, yeah.

656
00:23:14,117 --> 00:23:15,628
It's... I'm like you. It's at that whole

657
00:23:15,628 --> 00:23:17,695
concept of, most of my audience,

658
00:23:18,824 --> 00:23:21,855
are are already believers looking for more in

659
00:23:21,855 --> 00:23:24,648
index studies, and so it is AAA

660
00:23:24,648 --> 00:23:25,547
red discovering

661
00:23:26,179 --> 00:23:28,094
who got is through the eyes of the

662
00:23:28,094 --> 00:23:29,791
person that I study

663
00:23:30,727 --> 00:23:32,802
in, in the bible. And each of these

664
00:23:32,802 --> 00:23:33,701
studies are

665
00:23:34,012 --> 00:23:34,512
fairly

666
00:23:34,885 --> 00:23:37,026
meaty in depth studies. They're 6 or 7

667
00:23:37,026 --> 00:23:37,264
weeks,

668
00:23:37,899 --> 00:23:39,644
but I always tell people take double the

669
00:23:39,644 --> 00:23:41,548
time... Like, take 12 weeks to do it

670
00:23:41,548 --> 00:23:43,797
because you'll you'll want... You'll wish you'll be

671
00:23:43,797 --> 00:23:46,275
glad to Yeah. That's that's great advice to

672
00:23:46,275 --> 00:23:49,071
take a deep dive and just be able

673
00:23:49,071 --> 00:23:51,484
to have things marinate. And just chew on

674
00:23:51,484 --> 00:23:54,045
some things. Because we do tend these... Like

675
00:23:54,045 --> 00:23:56,125
he said, the un sun un son heroes,

676
00:23:56,285 --> 00:23:58,525
I think he said, I'm, yeah. The people

677
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that we might read about, but yet

678
00:24:02,039 --> 00:24:04,526
because they don't have, like, a whole book

679
00:24:04,662 --> 00:24:07,125
dedicated to their name or, you know, if

680
00:24:07,125 --> 00:24:09,526
there's just a few... There's passages here and

681
00:24:09,526 --> 00:24:11,753
there about them, but being able to make

682
00:24:11,753 --> 00:24:14,401
that connection of what the deeper

683
00:24:15,347 --> 00:24:17,731
purpose of their life was and how it

684
00:24:17,731 --> 00:24:20,591
also connects with ours. So that's what I

685
00:24:20,591 --> 00:24:22,975
love to about your studies. Because I've got

686
00:24:23,134 --> 00:24:24,817
Ray rehab you sent that to me. So

687
00:24:24,897 --> 00:24:27,280
I love it. And just, you know, kind

688
00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:28,893
of bringing in

689
00:24:29,743 --> 00:24:31,650
how we can... We're just, you know, taking

690
00:24:31,650 --> 00:24:32,500
notes and

691
00:24:33,095 --> 00:24:35,236
application, I wanna say. That is applicable, and

692
00:24:35,236 --> 00:24:37,140
how do we how do we find that

693
00:24:37,140 --> 00:24:39,044
and and all of that. So I love

694
00:24:39,044 --> 00:24:41,921
it, but it really too fa me how

695
00:24:41,921 --> 00:24:44,626
you did the bible study on legion because

696
00:24:44,626 --> 00:24:47,344
that was the demons that the man was

697
00:24:47,344 --> 00:24:47,741
possessed.

698
00:24:48,218 --> 00:24:50,044
So some of us might just read that

699
00:24:50,044 --> 00:24:51,156
passage and think,

700
00:24:51,792 --> 00:24:52,848
wow, what a

701
00:24:53,301 --> 00:24:53,801
transformation

702
00:24:54,174 --> 00:24:54,674
and

703
00:24:54,984 --> 00:24:56,578
the pigs and all of that. You know,

704
00:24:56,738 --> 00:24:59,629
everything like that. Like, that's like, whoa, visualize

705
00:25:00,085 --> 00:25:03,287
that. That's kinda crazy. Right. But right. But

706
00:25:03,287 --> 00:25:06,090
to have a whole entire bible study on

707
00:25:06,145 --> 00:25:06,622
that?

708
00:25:07,337 --> 00:25:09,560
Wow. Mh. That was amazing. How how did

709
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:11,807
you go about in expanding on

710
00:25:12,594 --> 00:25:12,913
that.

711
00:25:14,111 --> 00:25:15,947
I'm asked... That's a great question. I'm I'm

712
00:25:15,947 --> 00:25:17,304
asked that a lot for all of the

713
00:25:17,304 --> 00:25:18,900
studies? Like, how did you get a 7

714
00:25:18,900 --> 00:25:21,295
week study that you study over 14 weeks

715
00:25:21,295 --> 00:25:23,460
on on H ga or legion or any

716
00:25:23,460 --> 00:25:24,971
of them. And, you know,

717
00:25:26,244 --> 00:25:26,722
2 parts.

718
00:25:27,517 --> 00:25:28,335
1 is

719
00:25:29,203 --> 00:25:30,419
I think we tend to

720
00:25:31,111 --> 00:25:32,622
read through the studies on a on a

721
00:25:32,622 --> 00:25:35,723
service level. So we don't pause to, you

722
00:25:35,723 --> 00:25:37,314
know, to... And so, and we do need

723
00:25:37,314 --> 00:25:38,880
guides. Like, I need... You know, I read

724
00:25:38,999 --> 00:25:40,908
commentaries, and then and then I serve as

725
00:25:40,908 --> 00:25:42,578
a guide to the Bible study. So, you

726
00:25:42,578 --> 00:25:44,328
know, we we don't... Necessarily have to do

727
00:25:44,328 --> 00:25:44,965
on our own.

728
00:25:46,254 --> 00:25:49,071
But there is so much packed

729
00:25:49,690 --> 00:25:50,648
in these stories.

730
00:25:51,448 --> 00:25:53,445
So much packed in these stories.

731
00:25:54,738 --> 00:25:56,733
And when we take the time to really

732
00:25:56,733 --> 00:25:58,968
dig in verse by verse and look at

733
00:25:58,968 --> 00:26:01,043
even the the the words and the grammar

734
00:26:01,043 --> 00:26:03,132
and the structure of the text you would...

735
00:26:03,291 --> 00:26:07,037
Just... It's just amazing how much more it

736
00:26:07,037 --> 00:26:09,051
opens your eyes to what's being

737
00:26:09,507 --> 00:26:09,905
presented.

738
00:26:10,797 --> 00:26:12,950
About who god is and how he... What

739
00:26:12,950 --> 00:26:14,066
he wants to teach us,

740
00:26:14,864 --> 00:26:16,857
there is so much in the text, but

741
00:26:16,857 --> 00:26:18,611
not just the text alone, Like, you know,

742
00:26:18,691 --> 00:26:20,538
what I say in all my studies and

743
00:26:20,538 --> 00:26:22,289
those who have done several of them. Have...

744
00:26:22,528 --> 00:26:23,802
They see this 1 pattern,

745
00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,588
in the fact that I never begin my

746
00:26:26,588 --> 00:26:29,000
bible studies in the passage where the care...

747
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:32,200
The person appears. So, you know, the story

748
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,559
of the man with the legion, he's in

749
00:26:33,559 --> 00:26:35,799
and he's in Matthew's gospel and Mark's Gospel,

750
00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,859
most material

751
00:26:37,731 --> 00:26:39,961
is found in Mark's Gospel, chapter 5, but

752
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,314
I don't begin in March chapter 5.

753
00:26:41,951 --> 00:26:44,658
Not actually beginning in Genesis 1 and I

754
00:26:44,658 --> 00:26:46,742
spend just a Few days, just a few

755
00:26:46,742 --> 00:26:49,367
days in Genesis 1 through 3 to give

756
00:26:49,367 --> 00:26:52,072
us context. Okay. Well, where did Evil come

757
00:26:52,072 --> 00:26:53,902
from? Why is it here? Why did god

758
00:26:53,902 --> 00:26:55,829
allow it? You know, a how's... You know,

759
00:26:55,909 --> 00:26:58,161
and and give us give us a framework.

760
00:26:58,458 --> 00:27:00,052
First of all, for wide evils in the

761
00:27:00,052 --> 00:27:01,747
world in the first place. We have to

762
00:27:01,900 --> 00:27:03,599
you know, we we don't we don't wanna

763
00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:05,340
overlook those basic questions because,

764
00:27:06,140 --> 00:27:08,140
you know, it's fun study in this guy's

765
00:27:08,140 --> 00:27:10,220
story because it's a wild story, and, you

766
00:27:10,220 --> 00:27:10,380
know,

767
00:27:11,194 --> 00:27:13,671
this little side note. It's my personal favorite.

768
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:16,468
I love all my studies the... Well, one's

769
00:27:16,468 --> 00:27:18,386
not better than the other I promise. They

770
00:27:18,386 --> 00:27:19,559
all have their unique

771
00:27:20,075 --> 00:27:23,091
you know, benefits and blessings, but this particular

772
00:27:23,091 --> 00:27:24,519
story is this 1 that resonates with me

773
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:24,837
deeply.

774
00:27:26,265 --> 00:27:27,932
So there's that. So I... So there's a

775
00:27:27,932 --> 00:27:29,775
lot of framework that's being provided.

776
00:27:30,729 --> 00:27:32,478
I'll give you just 1 little example from

777
00:27:32,478 --> 00:27:35,261
within the story. You mentioned the pigs, you

778
00:27:35,261 --> 00:27:36,454
know, a lot of the times, you know,

779
00:27:36,613 --> 00:27:37,431
with the demons

780
00:27:38,059 --> 00:27:40,285
you know, they're cast into the pigs, the

781
00:27:40,285 --> 00:27:42,671
pigs drown in the sea, and then, you

782
00:27:42,671 --> 00:27:44,182
know, the question is like, well, what happened

783
00:27:44,182 --> 00:27:45,772
to the demons or why did the pigs

784
00:27:45,772 --> 00:27:47,442
drown or doesn't god care about the pigs?

785
00:27:47,601 --> 00:27:49,786
Yep I talk about all of those questions,

786
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:51,774
but 1 little

787
00:27:53,023 --> 00:27:55,330
insights is, and this is something I do

788
00:27:55,330 --> 00:27:57,318
in all of my bible studies, every 1

789
00:27:57,318 --> 00:27:59,568
of my bible studies looks at the bible

790
00:27:59,568 --> 00:28:02,365
as a whole and tries to understand this

791
00:28:02,365 --> 00:28:03,963
story within that framework.

792
00:28:04,362 --> 00:28:06,760
I never separate the story from the bible.

793
00:28:07,493 --> 00:28:09,248
We're not just gonna study Mark chapter 5.

794
00:28:09,488 --> 00:28:11,982
We are gonna study that chapter within

795
00:28:13,078 --> 00:28:15,483
the whole bible. And so in the bible,

796
00:28:15,642 --> 00:28:16,438
there is a...

797
00:28:17,233 --> 00:28:18,745
It's... I wouldn't call it a major theme,

798
00:28:18,904 --> 00:28:21,711
but if there's a thread of this concept

799
00:28:21,848 --> 00:28:23,200
of drowning the enemy.

800
00:28:23,692 --> 00:28:26,231
So you when you... In major elements of

801
00:28:26,231 --> 00:28:28,136
the Bible, not just... You know, so you

802
00:28:28,136 --> 00:28:29,564
you have it first in the exodus,

803
00:28:30,596 --> 00:28:31,707
where Feral army,

804
00:28:32,199 --> 00:28:34,514
which are, you know, chasing God's people, god

805
00:28:34,514 --> 00:28:37,329
delivers his people, and then the army drown,

806
00:28:38,346 --> 00:28:41,082
and they're destroyed. And the the text

807
00:28:41,794 --> 00:28:45,005
in exodus that talks about that is almost

808
00:28:45,940 --> 00:28:48,810
it's very, very similar to... I'm gonna flip

809
00:28:48,810 --> 00:28:50,086
all the way out of revelation.

810
00:28:51,378 --> 00:28:53,613
Revelation talking about the lake of fire,

811
00:28:54,491 --> 00:28:56,327
and and how the... How the enemy is

812
00:28:56,327 --> 00:28:58,323
gonna be, you know, there's this lake of

813
00:28:58,323 --> 00:28:59,121
fire going on.

814
00:28:59,854 --> 00:29:01,449
And then you have the plagues and the

815
00:29:01,449 --> 00:29:03,762
exodus. Have the plagues in revelation. There's a

816
00:29:03,762 --> 00:29:04,581
lot of parallels

817
00:29:05,039 --> 00:29:06,634
and then the story of the legion,

818
00:29:07,352 --> 00:29:09,106
you got the drowning of the enemy.

819
00:29:10,557 --> 00:29:12,710
And and and and it's a thread that

820
00:29:12,710 --> 00:29:14,146
connects these pieces,

821
00:29:14,944 --> 00:29:17,735
and gives us greater insight. It's it's basically

822
00:29:17,735 --> 00:29:19,251
kind of like a fore shadow.

823
00:29:19,903 --> 00:29:21,333
Of what yeah... What's gonna happen to the

824
00:29:21,333 --> 00:29:23,080
enemy. Here's an example of what did happen

825
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:26,336
to Far army, army, and then ultimately, the

826
00:29:26,336 --> 00:29:27,631
ultimate enemy

827
00:29:28,179 --> 00:29:31,771
of the demonic forces are quote unquote round

828
00:29:31,771 --> 00:29:32,729
in the lake of fire.

829
00:29:33,927 --> 00:29:36,002
And it... It's important because it gives us

830
00:29:36,002 --> 00:29:38,414
a bigger picture of what's going on in

831
00:29:38,414 --> 00:29:40,255
this story. It's not just like, oh the

832
00:29:40,255 --> 00:29:42,595
things were there, Let's just... If there's something

833
00:29:42,654 --> 00:29:44,755
that we can actually learn about

834
00:29:45,468 --> 00:29:47,299
what God is teaching in the bible as

835
00:29:47,299 --> 00:29:49,927
a whole even through this 1 man's story

836
00:29:49,927 --> 00:29:51,918
because every story in the Bible is in

837
00:29:51,918 --> 00:29:52,953
there for a reason.

838
00:29:53,924 --> 00:29:56,265
Everything is it... God does not do things

839
00:29:56,325 --> 00:29:57,205
happen stands,

840
00:29:57,845 --> 00:29:58,345
every

841
00:29:58,805 --> 00:30:00,724
word in the Bible is there for a

842
00:30:00,724 --> 00:30:02,005
reason. I know, 1 of the things I

843
00:30:02,005 --> 00:30:03,614
say, all my studies when we when we...

844
00:30:04,011 --> 00:30:05,704
Especially when we look at some

845
00:30:06,237 --> 00:30:08,622
kinda more technical details of the text. It's

846
00:30:08,622 --> 00:30:10,371
not all technical. I promise. I share my

847
00:30:10,371 --> 00:30:12,174
personal stories I share funny stories

848
00:30:12,851 --> 00:30:15,236
it's it's this this study that enrich it

849
00:30:15,236 --> 00:30:17,145
on those levels, but we do go into

850
00:30:17,145 --> 00:30:19,053
the detail on the text, you know? And

851
00:30:19,133 --> 00:30:19,690
I... And,

852
00:30:20,659 --> 00:30:21,849
and we talk about different

853
00:30:22,325 --> 00:30:24,071
different elements of the text that help bring

854
00:30:24,071 --> 00:30:24,309
out.

855
00:30:24,944 --> 00:30:26,294
You know, what are these 1 of these

856
00:30:26,294 --> 00:30:26,770
things about,

857
00:30:28,374 --> 00:30:29,650
something that god wants to teach us through

858
00:30:29,650 --> 00:30:30,128
the story.

859
00:30:31,085 --> 00:30:32,600
And so in that in that case, it's

860
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,232
basically the destruction of of god's enemies. And

861
00:30:35,232 --> 00:30:37,407
and there's interesting because when you go

862
00:30:38,518 --> 00:30:40,617
and, of course, so I do the context

863
00:30:41,076 --> 00:30:43,393
surrounding the immediate story. So I'm just gonna

864
00:30:43,393 --> 00:30:45,471
flip back to Mark chapter 4. In March

865
00:30:45,471 --> 00:30:46,110
chapter 4,

866
00:30:47,163 --> 00:30:49,236
the disciples of Jesus are about to cross

867
00:30:49,236 --> 00:30:50,215
the see a galilee,

868
00:30:51,151 --> 00:30:52,826
and they... And they hit that major store.

869
00:30:53,224 --> 00:30:55,218
Remember story where Jesus like, you know, calms

870
00:30:55,218 --> 00:30:57,543
to see and so forth. Well, that happens

871
00:30:57,543 --> 00:31:00,722
right before they meet this demonic man, the

872
00:31:00,722 --> 00:31:03,130
man possessed with the demons, and that whole

873
00:31:04,632 --> 00:31:08,471
event of this sudden storm, sudden crazy wild

874
00:31:08,527 --> 00:31:11,889
storm that even frighten seasoned fisherman

875
00:31:12,278 --> 00:31:14,270
which gives you a picture of the storm.

876
00:31:14,668 --> 00:31:16,341
If they're scared, we should all be scared.

877
00:31:16,580 --> 00:31:16,659
Right?

878
00:31:18,412 --> 00:31:20,085
This is a this is a a fore

879
00:31:20,085 --> 00:31:22,800
shadow of the kind the spiritual storm that's

880
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,307
coming towards them. You know, it's a it's

881
00:31:24,307 --> 00:31:26,606
a it's a it's a it's a illustration

882
00:31:26,606 --> 00:31:29,477
if if you will. And in that story,

883
00:31:29,636 --> 00:31:31,569
the d... The the the disciples

884
00:31:32,662 --> 00:31:35,551
actually accused Jesus, are you gonna let us

885
00:31:35,608 --> 00:31:36,006
drown?

886
00:31:38,409 --> 00:31:39,227
And so

887
00:31:39,601 --> 00:31:42,305
you have this kind of this j position

888
00:31:42,305 --> 00:31:44,952
between the disciples fearing for their lives,

889
00:31:46,139 --> 00:31:48,616
and truly at risk if god doesn't step

890
00:31:48,616 --> 00:31:48,855
in.

891
00:31:49,654 --> 00:31:51,252
And then on the other side of the

892
00:31:51,252 --> 00:31:52,770
story, you have the demons,

893
00:31:53,584 --> 00:31:57,020
who end up drowned. Now, demons are spiritual,

894
00:31:57,260 --> 00:31:59,257
so actually, they they go on, that's a

895
00:31:59,257 --> 00:32:01,826
different discussion, but but they're still this picture

896
00:32:01,826 --> 00:32:03,176
of the the of the destruction.

897
00:32:03,733 --> 00:32:05,083
And so, basically,

898
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,308
God is showing... This is what's going to

899
00:32:07,308 --> 00:32:07,705
happen.

900
00:32:08,992 --> 00:32:11,063
It could have happened to you, but I'm

901
00:32:11,063 --> 00:32:13,373
gonna rescue you, and so you have this

902
00:32:13,373 --> 00:32:15,682
contrast again between the saved and the and

903
00:32:15,682 --> 00:32:17,138
those who are going to be

904
00:32:17,769 --> 00:32:18,009
condemned.

905
00:32:19,450 --> 00:32:21,289
So it's there... And and I'm just talking,

906
00:32:21,450 --> 00:32:23,690
like, we've only talked for 5 minutes about

907
00:32:23,690 --> 00:32:24,490
the stories in there.

908
00:32:25,221 --> 00:32:25,721
So

909
00:32:26,096 --> 00:32:29,035
much in God's word when we take the

910
00:32:29,035 --> 00:32:30,171
time to really

911
00:32:31,101 --> 00:32:32,690
go through it and and look at the

912
00:32:32,690 --> 00:32:34,539
look at the context, look at the bigger

913
00:32:34,539 --> 00:32:35,440
picture of the bible

914
00:32:35,980 --> 00:32:38,059
and then do do you do the technical

915
00:32:38,059 --> 00:32:39,740
work. Look at the structure, look at for

916
00:32:39,740 --> 00:32:41,980
the parallels, the keywords, all those kinds of

917
00:32:41,980 --> 00:32:43,826
things. Which, you know, the bible nerd, those

918
00:32:43,826 --> 00:32:44,701
are fun for me.

919
00:32:46,053 --> 00:32:46,553
And

920
00:32:46,928 --> 00:32:48,281
and really get a lot out of the

921
00:32:48,281 --> 00:32:50,924
text. Yeah. And this guy story is amazing.

922
00:32:51,163 --> 00:32:53,554
He becomes the first gentile evangelist. We said...

923
00:32:53,713 --> 00:32:55,945
We often forget that. Yeah. You know? It's

924
00:32:55,945 --> 00:32:57,083
just like, oh, he's

925
00:32:57,634 --> 00:32:59,068
We just think about the scary sale they,

926
00:32:59,228 --> 00:33:00,822
oh, the demons and the tombs and he

927
00:33:00,822 --> 00:33:02,974
cuts and selfies naked. But I'm like, yeah.

928
00:33:03,532 --> 00:33:04,032
And

929
00:33:04,727 --> 00:33:06,893
right he gets rescued and it becomes an

930
00:33:06,893 --> 00:33:08,667
evangelist. Like, this is crazy.

931
00:33:09,043 --> 00:33:10,578
You know It's like

932
00:33:11,591 --> 00:33:13,604
redemption on steroids. It's like so

933
00:33:13,994 --> 00:33:14,733
that So.

934
00:33:15,426 --> 00:33:17,199
Ridiculous. It's so powerful.

935
00:33:17,654 --> 00:33:19,404
And I love... I love it. I was

936
00:33:19,404 --> 00:33:20,541
kinda drawn to that

937
00:33:20,916 --> 00:33:22,666
just, you know, I thought I gotta ask

938
00:33:22,666 --> 00:33:24,940
her this. But I love how you were

939
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:26,460
connecting all those dots

940
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:27,420
and

941
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,359
not just the cultural, but like you say,

942
00:33:30,519 --> 00:33:32,619
there's so much more in

943
00:33:33,489 --> 00:33:36,504
diving deep in doing the study and understanding

944
00:33:36,504 --> 00:33:38,329
it. And I love that your studies,

945
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:42,075
help people to do that but then create

946
00:33:42,075 --> 00:33:42,813
a framework

947
00:33:43,427 --> 00:33:45,018
for when they're studying on their own,

948
00:33:45,574 --> 00:33:48,199
you know, and and doing... You have... Shu

949
00:33:48,199 --> 00:33:49,653
there you go. You

950
00:33:50,124 --> 00:33:51,560
I love it. I love what you just

951
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,635
shared because I have so many people come

952
00:33:53,635 --> 00:33:55,789
to me. And they'll say, you know, I

953
00:33:55,789 --> 00:33:56,289
didn't

954
00:33:56,826 --> 00:33:58,915
know that I was studying the bible when

955
00:33:59,074 --> 00:34:01,307
I was doing your bible study, but now

956
00:34:01,307 --> 00:34:03,061
that I finished, I realized, I have so

957
00:34:03,061 --> 00:34:04,039
many tools.

958
00:34:05,054 --> 00:34:06,011
So it's not like,

959
00:34:06,744 --> 00:34:08,105
Here's a book to teach you how to

960
00:34:08,105 --> 00:34:09,704
study the Bible. Well, that sounds fine. Right.

961
00:34:09,945 --> 00:34:11,864
Right? It's... Yeah. I mean, it does that

962
00:34:11,864 --> 00:34:13,465
doesn't appeal to everybody. You know what I

963
00:34:13,465 --> 00:34:15,965
mean? But when you learn by

964
00:34:16,518 --> 00:34:19,059
kind of doing it following an example and

965
00:34:19,059 --> 00:34:21,998
you're you're learning about this crazy story and

966
00:34:21,998 --> 00:34:24,460
you're learning about who God is. And so

967
00:34:24,460 --> 00:34:27,574
you're absorbing these these tools that are gonna

968
00:34:27,574 --> 00:34:29,562
help you become a better student of God's

969
00:34:29,562 --> 00:34:32,981
word, that just fills my soul, you know,

970
00:34:33,299 --> 00:34:33,799
because

971
00:34:34,268 --> 00:34:36,176
you know, that's that's what I want. I

972
00:34:36,176 --> 00:34:38,425
mean, I I... You know, we all want

973
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,230
to grow deeper with God. And we do

974
00:34:40,230 --> 00:34:42,376
that through his word. I mean, ultimately, we

975
00:34:42,376 --> 00:34:43,193
know, prayer

976
00:34:43,584 --> 00:34:45,739
community, all of those things. But but by

977
00:34:45,739 --> 00:34:47,756
and large, it's going to be our personal

978
00:34:48,055 --> 00:34:50,130
relationship with God through that he how he

979
00:34:50,130 --> 00:34:52,047
has revealed himself through his word. He speaks

980
00:34:52,047 --> 00:34:52,606
through his word.

981
00:34:53,339 --> 00:34:53,817
And

982
00:34:54,615 --> 00:34:55,514
when we lose

983
00:34:56,848 --> 00:34:57,667
the joy

984
00:34:58,842 --> 00:35:01,953
of of of of studying god's word, our

985
00:35:01,953 --> 00:35:03,091
relationship with him when.

986
00:35:03,485 --> 00:35:05,005
And most of us know when that happens.

987
00:35:05,164 --> 00:35:06,525
Is we just don't know what to do

988
00:35:06,525 --> 00:35:08,525
about it. Yeah. You know? And it's like,

989
00:35:08,684 --> 00:35:10,204
it's not like, we're like, oh, that's okay.

990
00:35:10,445 --> 00:35:11,644
I'm just gonna go, you know,

991
00:35:12,617 --> 00:35:14,524
skydiving. I'll get my joy that way. No.

992
00:35:14,762 --> 00:35:16,590
We know we want more. We want that

993
00:35:16,590 --> 00:35:19,134
deeper intimacy. We're missing it, and we just

994
00:35:19,134 --> 00:35:20,902
don't know how to do it. And I

995
00:35:20,902 --> 00:35:21,062
think,

996
00:35:22,020 --> 00:35:24,015
you know, stepping into these stories that are

997
00:35:24,015 --> 00:35:25,532
fresh and new and we haven't spent a

998
00:35:25,532 --> 00:35:27,688
lot of time in then before is almost

999
00:35:27,688 --> 00:35:30,179
like reading god's word in a it's a...

1000
00:35:30,339 --> 00:35:31,380
It's a refreshing,

1001
00:35:32,339 --> 00:35:34,739
and it gets too excited about going on

1002
00:35:34,739 --> 00:35:37,619
your own and and it's. Yeah. Because bible

1003
00:35:37,619 --> 00:35:38,119
study

1004
00:35:38,591 --> 00:35:41,469
can really be intimidating to some people, or

1005
00:35:41,762 --> 00:35:43,743
maybe not really knowing how to how to

1006
00:35:43,743 --> 00:35:45,699
do it how to how to dive deep

1007
00:35:45,977 --> 00:35:48,195
So I I love this because as you're

1008
00:35:48,195 --> 00:35:49,621
explaining, you know, you don't wanna just write...

1009
00:35:49,859 --> 00:35:52,315
Oh, here's a bible study tool book, you

1010
00:35:52,315 --> 00:35:52,474
know,

1011
00:35:53,124 --> 00:35:55,042
learn how to stay. And, you know, it's

1012
00:35:55,042 --> 00:35:56,480
almost like, you know when you hide the

1013
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:56,980
vegetables

1014
00:35:57,678 --> 00:35:58,397
with the kids,

1015
00:35:58,956 --> 00:36:01,365
you put the vegetables in some else, and

1016
00:36:01,365 --> 00:36:02,958
then they eat it, and they go, wow.

1017
00:36:03,197 --> 00:36:05,348
I really love these vegetables are so good.

1018
00:36:05,905 --> 00:36:06,782
And good for me.

1019
00:36:07,897 --> 00:36:09,490
But I love it. You us that's great.

1020
00:36:10,224 --> 00:36:12,461
Illustrations. Yeah. I That's a good in my

1021
00:36:12,461 --> 00:36:13,659
head, but I just...

1022
00:36:14,458 --> 00:36:16,615
I I love it so much too because

1023
00:36:16,615 --> 00:36:19,173
of all the different movements out there and

1024
00:36:19,173 --> 00:36:20,309
some are really

1025
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:21,340
really

1026
00:36:22,110 --> 00:36:24,650
scary. Actually, in the name of Jesus, but

1027
00:36:24,650 --> 00:36:25,682
getting away from Bible.

1028
00:36:26,254 --> 00:36:27,291
Like, not even,

1029
00:36:28,009 --> 00:36:30,003
like, progressive and things like that is, like,

1030
00:36:30,162 --> 00:36:32,794
well, Yeah. It kinda becomes more of a

1031
00:36:32,794 --> 00:36:34,948
self help or, you know, that kind of

1032
00:36:34,948 --> 00:36:36,039
thing, but

1033
00:36:36,556 --> 00:36:38,862
the word. We we need the word. You

1034
00:36:38,862 --> 00:36:42,521
know, it it's fascinating and powerful, and it's

1035
00:36:42,521 --> 00:36:42,918
alive.

1036
00:36:43,793 --> 00:36:46,934
It's live. It's a alive and when we

1037
00:36:47,474 --> 00:36:49,555
have an opportunity to find a way whether

1038
00:36:49,555 --> 00:36:51,315
it's through these studies or other resource or

1039
00:36:51,315 --> 00:36:54,570
your studies, whatever whatever that step is that

1040
00:36:54,689 --> 00:36:57,310
kinda get you back into it, you know,

1041
00:36:57,628 --> 00:36:59,773
like, be thankful for that. Yeah. You know,

1042
00:36:59,852 --> 00:37:01,838
be thankful for the resource. Like, I'm thankful

1043
00:37:01,838 --> 00:37:04,141
for the things that have poured into me.

1044
00:37:04,554 --> 00:37:06,702
To give me a desire to know god's

1045
00:37:06,702 --> 00:37:08,213
word further. And, you know, 1 of the

1046
00:37:08,213 --> 00:37:09,804
things I show on my website, I forget

1047
00:37:09,804 --> 00:37:11,259
where maybe in the about

1048
00:37:11,808 --> 00:37:13,722
about S page or it could be about

1049
00:37:13,722 --> 00:37:16,273
ministry page, 1 of them. My love for

1050
00:37:16,353 --> 00:37:19,542
God's word was something I actually prayed for.

1051
00:37:20,513 --> 00:37:21,864
I mean, I had a love for God's

1052
00:37:21,864 --> 00:37:23,692
for it as a new believer especially because

1053
00:37:23,692 --> 00:37:25,043
when you're when you knew, it's it's all

1054
00:37:25,043 --> 00:37:27,189
new, you know? But but, yes, years goes

1055
00:37:27,189 --> 00:37:27,427
by.

1056
00:37:27,999 --> 00:37:29,597
Know, I was like, god I really love

1057
00:37:29,597 --> 00:37:31,195
studying your word and I love knowing your

1058
00:37:31,195 --> 00:37:33,213
word, give me a hunger

1059
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:37,045
that In in a way, almost can never

1060
00:37:37,045 --> 00:37:39,045
fully be satisfied because we'll never fully get

1061
00:37:39,045 --> 00:37:41,204
to the end of God. Right? I said,

1062
00:37:41,364 --> 00:37:43,864
but I wanna hunger for your word that

1063
00:37:44,977 --> 00:37:45,452
never ends.

1064
00:37:46,165 --> 00:37:47,433
And I prayed for that.

1065
00:37:48,859 --> 00:37:50,998
And I and I think he he answered

1066
00:37:50,998 --> 00:37:53,101
that prayer, and that's appear, he would always

1067
00:37:53,158 --> 00:37:54,750
answer because it's his will for all of

1068
00:37:54,750 --> 00:37:57,058
us. And so my my my point is

1069
00:37:57,058 --> 00:37:59,287
is like, you can ask for that. If

1070
00:37:59,287 --> 00:38:01,197
you're not feeling hungry for God's word,

1071
00:38:01,929 --> 00:38:03,687
Pray, and God give you a hunger for

1072
00:38:03,687 --> 00:38:07,043
his word. Pray for, you know, resources or

1073
00:38:07,043 --> 00:38:08,961
teachers or whoever whatever it might be to

1074
00:38:08,961 --> 00:38:11,291
get you to the next step. Play for

1075
00:38:11,291 --> 00:38:13,439
all of that. You know, he will answer.

1076
00:38:13,598 --> 00:38:15,984
Yeah. I hate provided teachers for a reason,

1077
00:38:17,256 --> 00:38:18,608
you know. And

1078
00:38:19,419 --> 00:38:21,652
you know, I learned from teachers. I'd teach

1079
00:38:21,652 --> 00:38:23,485
others, others... You know, we're all on this

1080
00:38:23,485 --> 00:38:24,283
journey together.

1081
00:38:24,841 --> 00:38:26,835
And and if if we can bless 1

1082
00:38:26,835 --> 00:38:28,764
another. I mean, I think that's what the

1083
00:38:28,764 --> 00:38:30,601
whole body of crisis is for? That's right.

1084
00:38:30,841 --> 00:38:32,140
Thank you for that reminder

1085
00:38:32,599 --> 00:38:35,235
to, you know, pray for the hunger of

1086
00:38:35,235 --> 00:38:35,715
the word.

1087
00:38:36,288 --> 00:38:38,832
And that god will bring forth that hunger.

1088
00:38:39,229 --> 00:38:41,932
And how he does provide resources and and

1089
00:38:41,932 --> 00:38:44,396
others to to speak truth into our lives

1090
00:38:44,396 --> 00:38:45,134
and teach

1091
00:38:45,523 --> 00:38:48,786
and you being a fantastic example of that.

1092
00:38:49,184 --> 00:38:51,890
And I always have a heart for, especially

1093
00:38:51,890 --> 00:38:53,425
women who have come

1094
00:38:54,198 --> 00:38:54,698
from

1095
00:38:55,088 --> 00:38:56,916
a lot of broken openness. I mean, we've

1096
00:38:56,916 --> 00:38:59,381
all we all have broken stories in our

1097
00:38:59,381 --> 00:39:02,084
lives. I mean, for sure, some women that

1098
00:39:02,243 --> 00:39:04,015
I've talked with over the years

1099
00:39:04,643 --> 00:39:08,233
have this belief that's really believing a lie

1100
00:39:08,233 --> 00:39:10,465
that just because of where they've been what

1101
00:39:10,465 --> 00:39:12,141
they've done or what's been done to them,

1102
00:39:12,539 --> 00:39:13,895
that god cannot use them.

1103
00:39:14,549 --> 00:39:16,867
And that they don't have anything to give,

1104
00:39:17,426 --> 00:39:19,664
and they question their worth and their value

1105
00:39:19,664 --> 00:39:21,422
and all and all of that. And so

1106
00:39:22,061 --> 00:39:23,315
so it's just so

1107
00:39:23,753 --> 00:39:24,253
encouraging,

1108
00:39:24,871 --> 00:39:26,329
and powerful to hear

1109
00:39:26,707 --> 00:39:28,165
how you shared your

1110
00:39:28,543 --> 00:39:29,022
story.

1111
00:39:29,980 --> 00:39:32,556
And how god redeem at all and also

1112
00:39:32,949 --> 00:39:34,007
uses at all

1113
00:39:34,623 --> 00:39:36,936
for his glory. And for you're good, but

1114
00:39:36,936 --> 00:39:38,771
also for the good of those who say,

1115
00:39:39,250 --> 00:39:42,302
wow, that sounds a little like my story

1116
00:39:42,775 --> 00:39:44,375
And I just thought that was the end

1117
00:39:44,375 --> 00:39:45,835
of that, and that's all

1118
00:39:46,135 --> 00:39:48,054
there is for me, but that's not true.

1119
00:39:48,375 --> 00:39:50,215
Alright. So if you could know just share

1120
00:39:50,215 --> 00:39:52,650
a little bit more encouragement about that

1121
00:39:53,110 --> 00:39:54,949
before I have you share how the listener

1122
00:39:54,949 --> 00:39:57,429
can connect with you, what, you know, encouraging

1123
00:39:57,429 --> 00:39:57,989
words you have?

1124
00:39:58,789 --> 00:40:00,639
No. I pre hate that because, I mean,

1125
00:40:00,798 --> 00:40:02,628
I only shared a few pieces from my

1126
00:40:02,628 --> 00:40:04,459
story. I mean, I have daybreak in my

1127
00:40:04,459 --> 00:40:04,959
background,

1128
00:40:05,891 --> 00:40:06,369
cocaine use,

1129
00:40:07,005 --> 00:40:08,142
alcohol use, prom,

1130
00:40:09,805 --> 00:40:12,449
I just ref finished recording the video series

1131
00:40:12,823 --> 00:40:14,730
for the... Ray have Bible study, and I...

1132
00:40:14,968 --> 00:40:15,047
And...

1133
00:40:16,636 --> 00:40:18,145
And they're being edited right now, And I'd

1134
00:40:18,145 --> 00:40:19,833
got an email Yes, today from the video...

1135
00:40:20,073 --> 00:40:22,390
From the saying, here's video number 2. You

1136
00:40:22,390 --> 00:40:22,970
need to

1137
00:40:23,588 --> 00:40:25,346
you know, check it, make sure you're happy

1138
00:40:25,346 --> 00:40:25,826
with it. Right?

1139
00:40:26,718 --> 00:40:28,467
Well, I record these over the course of

1140
00:40:28,467 --> 00:40:30,057
the last 4 months, So I don't remember

1141
00:40:30,057 --> 00:40:31,885
which stories were in what. You know what

1142
00:40:31,965 --> 00:40:33,237
I mean? So I'm just... You know, I

1143
00:40:33,396 --> 00:40:34,509
I can't... Really I've got too much on

1144
00:40:34,509 --> 00:40:35,383
my plate. So

1145
00:40:36,592 --> 00:40:38,663
so I didn't remember exactly what was gonna

1146
00:40:38,663 --> 00:40:39,938
be said in this video that I recorded

1147
00:40:39,938 --> 00:40:41,690
back in January so this was months ago.

1148
00:40:41,929 --> 00:40:43,762
So anyway, so I turned it on, and

1149
00:40:43,841 --> 00:40:45,688
I'm listening to it in and about 3

1150
00:40:45,688 --> 00:40:46,801
minutes here, and I realized,

1151
00:40:47,675 --> 00:40:49,266
oh, I remember the story.

1152
00:40:49,822 --> 00:40:52,207
And it was, like, probably the hardest 1

1153
00:40:52,207 --> 00:40:54,195
to share in that series. It seems every

1154
00:40:54,195 --> 00:40:55,125
series that I

1155
00:40:55,483 --> 00:40:55,642
record.

1156
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,511
There's a hard story that I share. You

1157
00:40:58,511 --> 00:41:01,061
know, just because it might encourage somebody who's

1158
00:41:01,061 --> 00:41:03,451
listening. But I spent years, you know, and

1159
00:41:03,451 --> 00:41:05,538
the night nightclub scene, I did okay. And

1160
00:41:05,618 --> 00:41:07,853
I did alcohol all the time and, you

1161
00:41:07,853 --> 00:41:09,769
know, slept with men. I don't even remember

1162
00:41:09,769 --> 00:41:10,487
their names,

1163
00:41:11,286 --> 00:41:14,021
and there was a group of 5 brothers

1164
00:41:14,334 --> 00:41:14,972
that I knew.

1165
00:41:15,769 --> 00:41:16,269
And

1166
00:41:16,647 --> 00:41:18,083
within 1 year I slept with all of

1167
00:41:18,083 --> 00:41:20,874
them but 1. And when I listened again

1168
00:41:20,874 --> 00:41:23,826
to that story, yes just yesterday, literally,

1169
00:41:24,398 --> 00:41:24,898
It

1170
00:41:25,748 --> 00:41:27,019
it shook me a little bit. Yeah I

1171
00:41:27,019 --> 00:41:28,767
mean, it's my own story. It's... I'm that's

1172
00:41:28,767 --> 00:41:30,038
so I knew what I said. I mean,

1173
00:41:30,197 --> 00:41:31,944
I I wrote these talks a year ago.

1174
00:41:32,103 --> 00:41:34,030
I, you know, you know, in preparation. I'm

1175
00:41:34,030 --> 00:41:34,530
gonna

1176
00:41:35,067 --> 00:41:35,567
but,

1177
00:41:36,184 --> 00:41:37,779
you know, it's not like I think about

1178
00:41:37,779 --> 00:41:39,055
those things all the time. So when it...

1179
00:41:39,215 --> 00:41:41,129
It's when it's brought to my attention again,

1180
00:41:41,289 --> 00:41:43,296
it's like the enemy just like, if he

1181
00:41:43,296 --> 00:41:46,264
can get 1 little finger nail in you

1182
00:41:46,481 --> 00:41:48,152
and bring that shame back,

1183
00:41:48,869 --> 00:41:50,541
He will. And I'll I'll be honest, I

1184
00:41:50,541 --> 00:41:53,413
had like, a minor setback. I was kinda

1185
00:41:53,413 --> 00:41:55,794
in a sad, not sad, but but she...

1186
00:41:56,032 --> 00:41:57,698
I guess, shane yeah. Painful mood.

1187
00:41:58,348 --> 00:42:00,489
For half of the day yesterday, which went

1188
00:42:00,489 --> 00:42:02,631
into my small group last night, and they

1189
00:42:02,631 --> 00:42:03,821
noticed that they didn't know what it was

1190
00:42:03,821 --> 00:42:05,645
until I shared later. I'm fine now. I

1191
00:42:05,645 --> 00:42:07,886
mean, God you know, this morning. I felt

1192
00:42:07,886 --> 00:42:10,114
like your mercy isn't new every morning. God

1193
00:42:10,114 --> 00:42:11,547
in this word. I feel good,

1194
00:42:12,183 --> 00:42:12,683
but

1195
00:42:13,949 --> 00:42:17,129
The enemy will use our past.

1196
00:42:17,526 --> 00:42:20,150
If we've not surrendered it to God, he

1197
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:21,993
will use it again and again again. And

1198
00:42:21,993 --> 00:42:24,242
even after we surrender, if we're not

1199
00:42:24,697 --> 00:42:25,174
careful,

1200
00:42:26,605 --> 00:42:29,389
you know, it's always going to be a

1201
00:42:29,389 --> 00:42:29,786
target.

1202
00:42:30,278 --> 00:42:33,215
You know, for him. But if we have

1203
00:42:33,215 --> 00:42:35,280
to truly work through the healing, and and

1204
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:36,788
I had done that. It it was just

1205
00:42:36,788 --> 00:42:38,455
kinda of like those moments, Sometimes you're just

1206
00:42:38,455 --> 00:42:40,694
tired. Yeah. You know, and it's like, you

1207
00:42:40,694 --> 00:42:42,521
know... That's when you're going. Yeah.

1208
00:42:43,554 --> 00:42:45,461
Yeah. Yeah. And and as I shared, shared,

1209
00:42:45,619 --> 00:42:47,367
this literally was last night today, I'm I'm

1210
00:42:47,367 --> 00:42:49,296
feeling fine. You know? And... Even yesterday, it

1211
00:42:49,296 --> 00:42:50,195
was just a mild

1212
00:42:50,574 --> 00:42:52,410
set. I'm just trying to get perspective. And

1213
00:42:52,490 --> 00:42:54,326
I... And I overthink everything. So I over

1214
00:42:54,326 --> 00:42:55,444
explained everything for gimmicks sense.

1215
00:42:56,322 --> 00:42:56,801
But anyway,

1216
00:42:57,693 --> 00:43:00,150
You know, it's a journey. It's a journey.

1217
00:43:00,308 --> 00:43:02,447
But my point is, as you were saying,

1218
00:43:03,715 --> 00:43:06,280
so there's an ugly story from my past.

1219
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,000
Just 1.

1220
00:43:08,519 --> 00:43:10,599
It doesn't stop, God, from, be like, nope.

1221
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:12,533
You're gonna be a teacher. I'm, like, And

1222
00:43:12,533 --> 00:43:14,525
like I said, really, I, I no plan

1223
00:43:14,525 --> 00:43:15,800
on I'm going to seminary. I had a

1224
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,633
happy job. I was weren't gonna lie. I

1225
00:43:17,633 --> 00:43:19,760
was trying to figure out what my neck

1226
00:43:20,038 --> 00:43:21,788
career move was gonna be because I had

1227
00:43:21,788 --> 00:43:23,935
some choices, and I met with my pastor

1228
00:43:23,935 --> 00:43:25,526
and he was listening to all I was

1229
00:43:25,526 --> 00:43:27,276
doing, and I was Was blogging at that

1230
00:43:27,276 --> 00:43:29,442
time and doing a little bit testimonial speaking.

1231
00:43:29,681 --> 00:43:30,261
I wasn't

1232
00:43:31,517 --> 00:43:32,017
pursuing

1233
00:43:32,554 --> 00:43:34,310
writing and speaking. It just sort of God

1234
00:43:34,310 --> 00:43:35,907
was just opening doors and so I was

1235
00:43:35,907 --> 00:43:37,677
walking through them. And he's like, well, have

1236
00:43:37,677 --> 00:43:39,134
you thought about going to seminary.

1237
00:43:40,547 --> 00:43:41,106
And I'm like,

1238
00:43:42,541 --> 00:43:42,940
well,

1239
00:43:44,056 --> 00:43:45,491
until you set it out loud,

1240
00:43:46,541 --> 00:43:48,130
I mean, it had passed my mind once

1241
00:43:48,130 --> 00:43:50,140
a twice in the past, but I wasn't

1242
00:43:50,434 --> 00:43:52,659
it wasn't like on my radar. You know?

1243
00:43:52,818 --> 00:43:54,168
That was not where I thought my life

1244
00:43:54,168 --> 00:43:56,650
was going. But he had prayed and felt

1245
00:43:56,650 --> 00:43:58,741
like that was that 1 thing God was

1246
00:43:58,957 --> 00:44:00,469
wanting to bring out of our meeting together,

1247
00:44:00,628 --> 00:44:01,822
and he's, like, have you thought about Gone

1248
00:44:01,822 --> 00:44:03,590
summary? It was kinda funny at the time

1249
00:44:03,590 --> 00:44:04,945
because I was actually going there trying to

1250
00:44:04,945 --> 00:44:06,140
get something off my plate.

1251
00:44:07,017 --> 00:44:08,133
You know I was like, I had a

1252
00:44:08,133 --> 00:44:09,728
side job. I had a consulting job. I

1253
00:44:09,728 --> 00:44:11,574
had a regular job. And I I was

1254
00:44:11,574 --> 00:44:12,926
doing the blogging and all this, and I'm

1255
00:44:12,926 --> 00:44:14,199
like, I can't keep doing all these things.

1256
00:44:14,438 --> 00:44:15,472
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do.

1257
00:44:15,551 --> 00:44:17,063
He's was like, wait we thought born 7

1258
00:44:17,063 --> 00:44:17,563
or

1259
00:44:18,114 --> 00:44:19,871
or something else you can do. So we're

1260
00:44:19,871 --> 00:44:21,789
kinda a potty. Yeah. Yeah. And I was

1261
00:44:21,789 --> 00:44:23,387
like, and who's gonna keep this? You know?

1262
00:44:23,626 --> 00:44:24,106
And

1263
00:44:25,078 --> 00:44:25,634
But thought,

1264
00:44:26,429 --> 00:44:28,415
that was that was... That was the sort

1265
00:44:28,415 --> 00:44:28,733
of

1266
00:44:29,448 --> 00:44:30,560
how do I say it? I would say,

1267
00:44:30,799 --> 00:44:32,547
it was exactly what I didn't know I

1268
00:44:32,547 --> 00:44:32,864
wanted to do.

1269
00:44:34,074 --> 00:44:35,992
Yeah You know what I mean is? And

1270
00:44:36,152 --> 00:44:38,789
I was like, oh, wow. So, you know,

1271
00:44:39,029 --> 00:44:41,427
I applied the following term. I got accepted

1272
00:44:41,427 --> 00:44:43,759
in the next 4 years. I, went to

1273
00:44:43,759 --> 00:44:45,834
seminary while balancing a job and,

1274
00:44:47,909 --> 00:44:49,905
anyway. So all of that, I'm going off

1275
00:44:49,905 --> 00:44:51,502
track a little bit, but oh, but my

1276
00:44:51,502 --> 00:44:51,981
point was,

1277
00:44:52,633 --> 00:44:54,541
So I got some... A lot of ugly

1278
00:44:54,541 --> 00:44:56,609
stuff in my past, and I've still only

1279
00:44:56,609 --> 00:44:57,745
shared honestly.

1280
00:44:58,278 --> 00:44:59,630
I've only shared a few things.

1281
00:45:00,838 --> 00:45:01,338
So

1282
00:45:02,110 --> 00:45:04,097
that doesn't mean anything to God. He... The

1283
00:45:04,097 --> 00:45:05,608
the all the more glory to him. Right.

1284
00:45:05,766 --> 00:45:06,085
You know?

1285
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,445
Because he's the 1 that makes the trans

1286
00:45:08,802 --> 00:45:10,949
information. You know, he knew what he wanted.

1287
00:45:11,108 --> 00:45:12,937
So I'm speaking to those were listening here.

1288
00:45:13,652 --> 00:45:15,879
I'm 1 example, but it's true for every

1289
00:45:15,879 --> 00:45:18,687
1 of us when God created us, he

1290
00:45:18,687 --> 00:45:20,626
had a design and a plan

1291
00:45:21,085 --> 00:45:22,523
that's beautiful. Yeah.

1292
00:45:23,482 --> 00:45:26,054
And nothing that has ever happened in our

1293
00:45:26,054 --> 00:45:26,554
lives

1294
00:45:27,409 --> 00:45:30,919
can change what God created us to become.

1295
00:45:31,956 --> 00:45:33,950
The only question is are we gonna trust

1296
00:45:33,950 --> 00:45:35,760
him now that we know him

1297
00:45:36,438 --> 00:45:38,673
to begin that transformation to get us where

1298
00:45:38,673 --> 00:45:40,430
he wants us to be. Because not a

1299
00:45:40,430 --> 00:45:43,384
thing that you have done can change his

1300
00:45:43,384 --> 00:45:44,981
plan for you. And his plan for you

1301
00:45:44,981 --> 00:45:46,751
is good, and it's not because of what

1302
00:45:46,751 --> 00:45:48,585
you've done it's because of who he is.

1303
00:45:48,905 --> 00:45:50,260
So we always have to go back to

1304
00:45:50,260 --> 00:45:52,574
that. If we constantly are looking at ourselves

1305
00:45:52,574 --> 00:45:54,009
like, oh, how can God used me, How

1306
00:45:54,009 --> 00:45:54,647
can... Well,

1307
00:45:56,492 --> 00:45:57,547
god's pretty big

1308
00:45:58,632 --> 00:46:01,884
You know? He can use anything and he

1309
00:46:01,884 --> 00:46:04,224
created you in his

1310
00:46:04,525 --> 00:46:07,904
love. He created you. He can conceived you

1311
00:46:08,045 --> 00:46:10,045
in his thoughts in mind and heart.

1312
00:46:11,179 --> 00:46:13,260
Before you were physically conceived in your mother's

1313
00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:13,500
room.

1314
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:15,199
And so

1315
00:46:15,500 --> 00:46:16,799
we have to reclaim,

1316
00:46:17,659 --> 00:46:20,219
you know, the truth of God you've made

1317
00:46:20,219 --> 00:46:23,827
me to serve you and bless others and

1318
00:46:23,827 --> 00:46:25,045
be transformed

1319
00:46:26,221 --> 00:46:27,338
into the image of your son.

1320
00:46:28,867 --> 00:46:29,899
And I don't...

1321
00:46:31,248 --> 00:46:33,074
I I wanna stop arguing doing with you

1322
00:46:33,074 --> 00:46:35,852
about that trip. Yeah. Wow, that I can't

1323
00:46:35,852 --> 00:46:37,851
do. Because I can't do it. He's doing

1324
00:46:37,851 --> 00:46:39,914
it. He does it. And it's... When we

1325
00:46:39,914 --> 00:46:42,057
finally come to grips with that, we we

1326
00:46:42,057 --> 00:46:43,248
be we begin our journey.

1327
00:46:43,819 --> 00:46:45,093
To where he wants us to be. Be

1328
00:46:45,093 --> 00:46:47,324
beautiful. Yeah. I mean, they could Ray rehab.

1329
00:46:47,642 --> 00:46:49,155
Actually any of the studies that I wrote

1330
00:46:49,155 --> 00:46:50,749
all the characters. It's the same thing. You

1331
00:46:50,749 --> 00:46:52,875
know, like, here's this crazy naked guy. He

1332
00:46:52,994 --> 00:46:55,632
you know, pe himself of this demon possess

1333
00:46:55,632 --> 00:46:56,771
he becomes an evangelist.

1334
00:46:57,390 --> 00:46:59,467
You know, Ray have a prostitute living in

1335
00:46:59,467 --> 00:47:01,566
his wicked wild city

1336
00:47:02,199 --> 00:47:04,594
And she becomes an ancestor of the of

1337
00:47:04,594 --> 00:47:06,030
the savior of the world.

1338
00:47:06,749 --> 00:47:08,425
Okay. I mean, like, and those are just

1339
00:47:08,425 --> 00:47:10,260
2 examples. Like, this is this is God's

1340
00:47:10,260 --> 00:47:12,849
business. He's in the redemption business. He's

1341
00:47:13,227 --> 00:47:15,859
glorified in these stories, So don't short yourself.

1342
00:47:16,018 --> 00:47:17,875
Yeah. And and Rob others

1343
00:47:18,651 --> 00:47:20,246
of what you have to offer.

1344
00:47:21,137 --> 00:47:22,727
Once you allow god to do the work

1345
00:47:22,727 --> 00:47:24,317
in you that he wants to do. Man,

1346
00:47:24,635 --> 00:47:27,179
that is so powerful and encouraging to someone

1347
00:47:27,179 --> 00:47:29,818
listening right now. And And it's true. It's

1348
00:47:29,818 --> 00:47:32,043
like the enemy. Why why would we listen

1349
00:47:32,043 --> 00:47:33,950
to the enemy when he whispers, Who do

1350
00:47:33,950 --> 00:47:36,334
you think you are to accomplish this? Right.

1351
00:47:36,573 --> 00:47:37,208
And instead,

1352
00:47:38,177 --> 00:47:40,006
we need to say,

1353
00:47:40,722 --> 00:47:42,471
well, who do we think God is?

1354
00:47:43,266 --> 00:47:45,197
Because amen he can accomplish

1355
00:47:45,572 --> 00:47:47,894
through us. So... Because that's what Matt. Yeah.

1356
00:47:48,134 --> 00:47:50,690
Yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's really, really good. So

1357
00:47:50,690 --> 00:47:52,527
thank you so much for sharing that. I

1358
00:47:52,527 --> 00:47:54,226
know I know someone listening

1359
00:47:54,938 --> 00:47:56,875
really had a breakthrough

1360
00:47:57,492 --> 00:47:57,992
with

1361
00:47:58,369 --> 00:48:00,443
with that right now. And so thank you

1362
00:48:00,443 --> 00:48:02,693
so much for that. And I would love

1363
00:48:02,693 --> 00:48:04,532
if you would share how the listener can

1364
00:48:04,532 --> 00:48:07,588
connect with you and find all these wonderful

1365
00:48:07,648 --> 00:48:09,965
studies and get dive in.

1366
00:48:11,259 --> 00:48:13,255
Yeah. Well, thank you. Thank you. Well I

1367
00:48:13,255 --> 00:48:15,410
always joke that my name is very difficult

1368
00:48:15,410 --> 00:48:18,045
to remember, spell and pronounce. And so I'm

1369
00:48:18,045 --> 00:48:19,721
gonna I'm gonna make it easy for anybody

1370
00:48:19,721 --> 00:48:20,200
who's listening.

1371
00:48:20,852 --> 00:48:23,314
You could just any bible study that I

1372
00:48:23,314 --> 00:48:25,855
just mentioned, you can go to ray bible

1373
00:48:25,855 --> 00:48:27,840
study dot com. You can go to h

1374
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:29,525
bible study dot com. You can go to

1375
00:48:29,525 --> 00:48:31,434
leads bible study dot com, and you will

1376
00:48:31,434 --> 00:48:32,730
find me. All of those

1377
00:48:33,264 --> 00:48:35,094
Urls will land right on my website,

1378
00:48:36,064 --> 00:48:38,294
S Har is just too hard. So

1379
00:48:38,772 --> 00:48:40,605
so just pick 1, you know, ray bible

1380
00:48:40,605 --> 00:48:41,959
study dot com Any 1 of them. You'll

1381
00:48:41,959 --> 00:48:44,230
land on my website. Go to the resources

1382
00:48:44,369 --> 00:48:45,829
section, You'll see a freebie

1383
00:48:46,289 --> 00:48:47,730
and go on there, get on my email

1384
00:48:47,730 --> 00:48:48,449
list, You'll get,

1385
00:48:49,489 --> 00:48:50,609
first of all, you'll get

1386
00:48:51,583 --> 00:48:54,612
3 or 4 full length teaching videos for

1387
00:48:54,612 --> 00:48:54,851
free.

1388
00:48:55,967 --> 00:48:58,039
1 on each of the studies, you'll get

1389
00:48:58,039 --> 00:48:58,278
my,

1390
00:48:58,916 --> 00:49:00,521
how to play on a sabbath date with

1391
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:00,998
Jesus.

1392
00:49:02,427 --> 00:49:04,810
Because all of us are craving intimacy with

1393
00:49:04,969 --> 00:49:06,398
God, but we have to carve out the

1394
00:49:06,398 --> 00:49:08,225
time. And sometimes we have to relearn how

1395
00:49:08,225 --> 00:49:10,226
to do that. So I have a sabbath

1396
00:49:10,226 --> 00:49:12,928
date with Jesus tips. I also have a

1397
00:49:12,928 --> 00:49:14,914
quiet time guide just for your kinda your

1398
00:49:14,914 --> 00:49:16,900
morning quiet time hour or half hour or

1399
00:49:16,900 --> 00:49:17,377
whatever it is.

1400
00:49:18,665 --> 00:49:20,813
Again, just kinda kinda relearn learning the basics,

1401
00:49:20,973 --> 00:49:22,485
but there's a lot of ways I call

1402
00:49:22,485 --> 00:49:23,519
it a refreshing,

1403
00:49:24,077 --> 00:49:26,623
7 refresh or 10 refreshing ideas. I forgot

1404
00:49:26,623 --> 00:49:28,859
what number it is. But anyway, but just

1405
00:49:28,859 --> 00:49:31,895
just, again, ways to to ways to refresh

1406
00:49:32,028 --> 00:49:32,266
your,

1407
00:49:32,980 --> 00:49:33,955
old patterns

1408
00:49:34,817 --> 00:49:37,199
so that your time with the Lord feels,

1409
00:49:38,152 --> 00:49:39,819
get kinda gets just a fresh start. Yeah.

1410
00:49:40,137 --> 00:49:42,121
And all those resources will help you do

1411
00:49:42,121 --> 00:49:43,570
that. So I hope you'll join me there.

1412
00:49:43,809 --> 00:49:45,245
Yeah. And there's a fun bible quiz on

1413
00:49:45,245 --> 00:49:47,318
my website too under the resources if you

1414
00:49:47,318 --> 00:49:49,391
wanna do that and see if find out

1415
00:49:49,391 --> 00:49:50,587
if you're a bible. What is it? You...

1416
00:49:50,826 --> 00:49:52,933
You're either find out if you're a bible

1417
00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:56,091
nerd, novice or ninja. So wow. Check it

1418
00:49:56,091 --> 00:49:58,556
out. That's cool. I love quizzes. Then... And

1419
00:49:58,715 --> 00:50:00,726
I guarantee I can guarantee.

1420
00:50:01,593 --> 00:50:03,184
That if you do that quiz, which is

1421
00:50:03,184 --> 00:50:05,833
just 1 minute. I absolutely guarantee

1422
00:50:06,367 --> 00:50:08,118
that you're gonna learn something you never heard

1423
00:50:08,118 --> 00:50:09,710
before Nice. And these questions are gonna be

1424
00:50:09,710 --> 00:50:11,712
questions you've heard before. So you're... But you're

1425
00:50:11,712 --> 00:50:13,062
gonna learn something new. So check it out.

1426
00:50:13,221 --> 00:50:14,356
Oh, that's a challenge

1427
00:50:15,682 --> 00:50:17,668
to our listeners and to me. So we

1428
00:50:17,668 --> 00:50:18,939
need to check that out. And I love

1429
00:50:18,939 --> 00:50:20,464
on your website too because I was looking

1430
00:50:20,464 --> 00:50:23,105
at your website. It's it's really nice. And,

1431
00:50:23,585 --> 00:50:25,344
you have a video on there without takes

1432
00:50:25,344 --> 00:50:26,085
from your

1433
00:50:26,464 --> 00:50:29,030
from your teaching. Videos that you record. That

1434
00:50:29,030 --> 00:50:29,530
was

1435
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:33,087
love that. Oh, yeah. Well, you know so

1436
00:50:33,087 --> 00:50:35,250
much. But everything looks so polished, you know,

1437
00:50:35,489 --> 00:50:37,320
and and and, like, people... You know, like

1438
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,310
you'll see the videos, But, hey, friends. Let

1439
00:50:39,310 --> 00:50:41,061
me tell you, I, you know, I make

1440
00:50:41,061 --> 00:50:42,985
the blue just like everybody else. Yeah, We

1441
00:50:42,985 --> 00:50:44,257
made a b reel. So you could find

1442
00:50:44,257 --> 00:50:46,244
it. It was really cool. And that's so

1443
00:50:46,244 --> 00:50:48,389
ingenious about the Ray rehab bible study dot

1444
00:50:48,389 --> 00:50:50,217
com, like, how you named it the actual

1445
00:50:50,217 --> 00:50:50,773
bible study.

1446
00:50:51,584 --> 00:50:51,983
Dot com.

1447
00:50:53,258 --> 00:50:55,330
Great. Yeah. Well, it's... Like I said, my

1448
00:50:55,330 --> 00:50:57,164
name is it's just is just too hard.

1449
00:50:57,403 --> 00:50:59,968
Yeah. Have to smell every leather or better

1450
00:50:59,968 --> 00:51:01,800
and it beautiful. And then people I always

1451
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,472
joke, people wanna put that a valve between

1452
00:51:03,472 --> 00:51:05,542
the h and r because Hr doesn't go

1453
00:51:05,542 --> 00:51:07,634
together in English, but it's Arabic. So

1454
00:51:08,583 --> 00:51:10,097
Just go to Ray hat bible study up.

1455
00:51:11,371 --> 00:51:12,965
That sounds easy, but you have a very

1456
00:51:12,965 --> 00:51:14,979
rich and exotic backgrounds. So

1457
00:51:15,515 --> 00:51:17,108
So I love her name, But anyway, this

1458
00:51:17,108 --> 00:51:19,586
has been so great. I... It's just been

1459
00:51:19,586 --> 00:51:21,197
a a blessing. And

1460
00:51:21,728 --> 00:51:24,028
and we we went over the time we

1461
00:51:24,028 --> 00:51:25,795
usually go because it was, like, are gonna

1462
00:51:25,795 --> 00:51:27,474
keep going with this because I I just

1463
00:51:27,474 --> 00:51:29,875
was enjoying so much. So thank you for

1464
00:51:29,875 --> 00:51:31,715
pouring into us today, And,

1465
00:51:32,434 --> 00:51:35,396
we'll look forward to finding out what else

1466
00:51:35,396 --> 00:51:37,567
is on the horizon for you

1467
00:51:38,261 --> 00:51:38,761
because

1468
00:51:39,295 --> 00:51:42,265
the studies go the studies and everything. And,

1469
00:51:42,425 --> 00:51:43,945
I hope to have you back on again.

1470
00:51:44,425 --> 00:51:46,265
Oh, that would be an honor. I would

1471
00:51:46,265 --> 00:51:47,864
be an honor. Yeah. This is this is

1472
00:51:47,864 --> 00:51:49,800
great. This was. Gatekeeper keep having brief. Refund.

1473
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,239
Thank you so much, and I will put

1474
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:54,760
all the links to the show notes, so

1475
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,960
the listener can find you.

1476
00:51:56,612 --> 00:51:58,842
And God bless you and your ministry and

1477
00:51:58,842 --> 00:52:00,514
all that you're doing in the name of

1478
00:52:00,594 --> 00:52:03,380
Jesus, and we will talk soon, Friend. God

1479
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:04,336
bless you. Thank you, George.

1480
00:52:05,146 --> 00:52:07,215
Thank you for listening, and I hope this

1481
00:52:07,215 --> 00:52:10,578
episode really blessed you and that you glean

1482
00:52:10,794 --> 00:52:11,294
prom

1483
00:52:11,764 --> 00:52:12,823
things that S

1484
00:52:13,201 --> 00:52:15,436
shared with us. I love how she brings

1485
00:52:15,436 --> 00:52:18,890
out themes in the Bible that we might

1486
00:52:19,268 --> 00:52:20,806
overlook and not really realize.

1487
00:52:21,359 --> 00:52:24,869
But how those dots connect? I love that

1488
00:52:24,869 --> 00:52:27,343
kind of stuff. Don't he... It's such an

1489
00:52:27,343 --> 00:52:29,755
intriguing and amazing thing we can connect and

1490
00:52:29,755 --> 00:52:31,855
dots and see bigger picture story

1491
00:52:32,235 --> 00:52:35,035
that god has in his word. And I'm

1492
00:52:35,035 --> 00:52:35,515
so thankful.

1493
00:52:36,246 --> 00:52:38,547
To have met S and to half as

1494
00:52:38,547 --> 00:52:41,562
a guest on this show because it was

1495
00:52:41,562 --> 00:52:44,443
a powerful episode and I just really so

1496
00:52:44,443 --> 00:52:46,441
enjoyed it, and I hope we did too.

1497
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,279
And I hope you'll check out the show

1498
00:52:48,279 --> 00:52:50,516
notes also in my website, reach out to

1499
00:52:50,516 --> 00:52:52,035
me. I would love to connect with you.

1500
00:52:52,528 --> 00:52:54,835
At doris swoop dot com. You can also

1501
00:52:54,835 --> 00:52:56,664
find my bible study it's a 6 week

1502
00:52:56,664 --> 00:52:59,369
bible study surrendered the joyce Dealers, or red

1503
00:52:59,369 --> 00:53:00,800
rediscovered the Jesus joy in you.

1504
00:53:01,372 --> 00:53:03,920
You heard about that on the onset at

1505
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,512
the beginning of the show. And so I

1506
00:53:05,512 --> 00:53:06,092
just wanna

1507
00:53:06,467 --> 00:53:08,856
mention that again. And so it's time to

1508
00:53:08,856 --> 00:53:10,166
surrender those joy steelers

1509
00:53:10,618 --> 00:53:13,317
and red cover the Jesus joy in us.

1510
00:53:13,714 --> 00:53:16,493
The joy we already have. Jesus gave us.

1511
00:53:17,065 --> 00:53:18,664
You give us his joy that ours people.

1512
00:53:18,985 --> 00:53:21,465
So I hope you enjoyed that, and I

1513
00:53:21,465 --> 00:53:22,525
will also

1514
00:53:22,905 --> 00:53:25,065
let you know if we are taking any

1515
00:53:25,065 --> 00:53:26,518
kind of break or anything, but for now,

1516
00:53:26,756 --> 00:53:27,971
I think we're going with

1517
00:53:28,344 --> 00:53:31,203
the every other week with them. So look

1518
00:53:31,203 --> 00:53:33,903
out for some great episodes coming up, and

1519
00:53:33,983 --> 00:53:35,492
I hope you'll join me next time.

1520
00:53:36,143 --> 00:53:38,776
And I talk with another woman who's taking

1521
00:53:38,776 --> 00:53:41,727
action for her passion compassion and conviction intersect.

1522
00:53:42,285 --> 00:53:44,678
Until then friend, half of blessed week, and

1523
00:53:44,758 --> 00:53:45,556
I'll talk to you soon.

1524
00:53:52,089 --> 00:53:54,315
Thank you for listening to this episode that

1525
00:53:54,315 --> 00:53:56,959
is part of spark media network that can

1526
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now be heard on the Edi app.