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in the education space.

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days. Right? You open the menu or you

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use the qr code or whatever.

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more than maybe we expected to see 30

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years ago. Yeah. It's important for us to

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if that Salmon was locked caught. It's important

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for us to know that those finger potatoes

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were from Eric Sk fault arm here and

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boulder. It really is really important for people

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to know that. And not every restaurant does

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that, but our obligation to our students

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is to at least make them aware that

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they have choices.

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about where their food comes from. Think about

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it And if that helps them when they're

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and it helps them when they go to

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to make people aware

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sustainability

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and local sourcing matter

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then we've done our job. And I and

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It's time for conversations about our food and

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how it's

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on farm to table talk with your host,

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Roger Was.

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the food chain today an important link. Connects

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it all, and that's from as we go

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what we're consuming is going through

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a culinary stage of shifts and others that

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are taking care of our product, and we've

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been leaving that out lately. We've talked farmers,

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and we're talking to people that are distributing

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the food. We're talking of different types of

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of food styles, but you know what? The

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it wouldn't happen if we weren't going to

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be having in that an important step, with

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chefs and the rest of the team

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that's helping us create this magic that we're

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all enjoying and I've got the perfect person

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to help me with that conversation today

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with Kirk Bach,

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School of Culinary art and boulder, Colorado,

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take Kirk, Welcome to Barbara table talk. Well,

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thank you for having me. Can I just

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congratulate you on that perfect

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pronunciation of the latest coffee yet? Beautiful. Beautiful.

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To a great start. Oh, wow,

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yeah. And I could even pronounce Kirk. Right?

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congratulations there as well.

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on something That said, okay. You got it

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right. So be sure to do it again.

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open. Yeah. I just had. Just had a

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but he misspelled his own name,

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yours... Schools.

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now because I'm I'm on a winning streak.

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have step. And she so highly of you.

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tell you what I met her when she

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was working at the at the at the

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farm in Cincinnati just outside of Cincinnati. Oh,

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her a lot. So She she's amazing. She's

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our she's our director of education and

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incredibly passionate and bright and

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kinda leads the way, you know, interestingly enough.

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the University of Cincinnati, and just it's a

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really good point, Roger Cincinnati is a very

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happening scene. It's a very

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exciting community. And I I think Stephanie lives

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bridge, as they say over by the the

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actually Kentucky, But

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she spends a lot of time since he.

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we talked about Since, Any any love she

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family out there. My daughter lives there and

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where this farm in Cincinnati was out in

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country. And that's on the north. East corner

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time to get more educated on where the

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food comes from and producing food and they

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have chefs involved and they had the farms

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what a good place to be?

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you know, we don't complain. It's been over

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the sun is shining. It's beautiful. There's no

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humidity. So we just g and barrett, you

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students going on the school in Austin, Texas,

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super cool college town. Yeah. And

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to program of boulder runs right through

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the flat aren't. If you start dressing, like,

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a chef where a chef jacket and any

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of that, like, you have on right today

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or something something Then that means you can't

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wear plaid or t shirts as much, which

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for for boulder. Plus you can also have

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mountain bike. I And in other kind of

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businesses, you could bring your own dog, but

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our limitations and from a sanitary perspective. But

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you know, the traditional wardrobe book. The area.

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a little the a bit more than than

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5000 feet right here in boulder. So. Yeah.

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some peep... Both tap in. And then are

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to pursue a culinary career or are they

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already crack and they're just trying to get

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more skills to be able to advance. What's

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the story? Such a great question. All of

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the above, Roger, all of the above.

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the demographic or the primary age, if you

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is, you know, 24 years and and younger,

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a very young population. Recent high school grads,

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young people who just have a a real

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passion for wanting to get into the industry,

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little older skew, maybe 24 to 31.

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wanna get that credential because they wanna move

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you know, in a very very kinda of

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thoughtful, respectful way

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until online education was available to them, they

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to take care of family, and they just

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couldn't relocate

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to to any city. Right? They have to

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stay right where they were,

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but they have this incredible passion.

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And so now they can pursue that passion.

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Through the magic of technology and innovation, you

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know, students are able to

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achieve the outcomes of the curriculum in the

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privacy of their own kitchen. They're held to

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the same standard,

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but they're doing it in an environment that,

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allows them to not have to relocate or

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have additional expenses that, you know, that come

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with that. So works for everybody

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Well, you know, I'm always interested

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in where was the Aha moment. And so

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if you look at people that are on

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some sort of a journey and that ends

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up taking them through your your programs. And

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they're online or they're coming to, the campuses

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or something like that. It is there a

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pattern

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I mean, I'm wondering how many generally you

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feel kinda came out and new down deep,

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they wanted to go this way right away,

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and they're kinda moving straight.

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Straightforward into it or versus those that they

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got somewhere else in their life and they're

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not really happy And said, you know what

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I really always wanted to do

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was, you know, this other career.

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Yeah. I don't know if that's a... If

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it's possible to answer that question, but III

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would sense that you would have people that

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kind of both

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both into that spectrum. Yeah. And and some

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that wanna do a little of both. Right?

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So because it's 1 school with... You know,

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ground programs and online programs.

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You know, life happens, Roger, things happen to

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people. They they get injured or family member,

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get. We saw a lot of this during

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the pandemic. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, people

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really wanted to stay close to their families.

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They wanted to take care of their parents

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and their

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grandparents and yet they still needed to live.

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Right? They needed to move forward

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and

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So the online platform gave him the opportunity

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to maybe block out some of what was

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going on in the world and and just

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kinda of focus on their

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on their true passion.

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Well, but I was also wondering though about

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the people that started a career doing something

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else.

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And is that I'm totally on the wrong

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track. In.

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Yeah. Yeah. We've seen that. We've seen that

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pattern over the years. Years and years and

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years ago. I was with

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a school group called the Cord blue, and

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you could remember when the, you know, the

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dot com bust occurred, you know, in, California,

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I And, you know, during that period of

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time, where a lot of people, you know,

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first of all, they had a lot of

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money, you, you know, and and

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And because of that bust,

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they were finally able to do something they

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always wanted to do. Wanna open up a

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restaurant, I, I wanna open a catering business.

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A food truck has been a dream of

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mine Forever and we saw a huge increase

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in culinary school attendance,

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enrollment.

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You know, back then. Similar, you know, to

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the pandemic. Finally, finally,

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the opportunity. And if you hear some testimonials

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of students who, came through our program during

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the pandemic. They... You know, they just get

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so emotional. They couldn't believe that they could

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stay home, take care of their loved ones

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and still pursue their education.

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Gave them a reason they were fur load.

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They were... You know, they lost their jobs,

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and I'm like, this is it. I'm going

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to pursue what I've always been dreaming about.

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But then Roger, we still have some... You

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know, we have some students that come to

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us that have gone through really great high

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school programs, whether it's... Through the National Restaurant

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Association pros star program

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or Fcc cla or Skills

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Or countless other vocational

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avenues for students and

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listen, they they they just wanna be a

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shop. There's never been a more important time

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for

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series on Hulu, like, the bear where people

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are like, Don't wanna do that. I wanna

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do that. Right? Know. Yeah Yeah. You know,

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as you say that, I just think of

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we've got, AAA

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lady that's a

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daughter friends of ours, and and she kinda

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of... Got a certain education to a certain

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point. It was a great education and business

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and and really then got into Cord on

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blue and actually went to whatever you can

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do it in Paris.

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Went over there, did all that today. She

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owns a restaurant in Monte and a restaurant

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in capital, and she's opening another 1 pretty

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soon.

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And she's been able to really live liver

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her dream. She was burst the chef, but

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now she's kinda like crediting grading restaurants and...

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Yeah.

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And and I'm wondering in... People that are

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into your program.

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I... I understand the passion of food and

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preparation creation and all of that,

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But is there... How does it shake out

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as those that that it's a root to

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a, a management role or an ownership role

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versus...

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Being able to be the,

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you know, the bearer kind of stage of

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your hands on food in the kitchen and

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training other people. How does that sort out?

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Yeah. Yeah. And everyone's different. Everyone's different. So

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there's there's no... Not this kind of recipe

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to use a acute analogy of 1 1

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size fits all. I I recently had a,

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pastry student who had just finished his...

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His bachelor's degree at Harvard University, but he

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in his mind

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knew

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that

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baking was his passion. So he got his

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business background that he needed from Harvard,

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came here for the skill set that he

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felt he needed.

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And to your point, he really doesn't wanna

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necessarily

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be baking every day. He wants to build

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the bakery where he brings people in, you

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know, that's his business mind. So

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You know, we we have the luxury of

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offering,

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you know, diploma programs.

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So those are programs.

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That really focus on the hands on. So

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it could be someone who already

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has a degree, like, the the woman you

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you mentioned,

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And all they really want is more experience

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with the hands on. Yeah. So they're they're

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here for, you know, for a period of

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time, and then they you know, get back

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out into the industry.

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We find that the younger crowd,

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particularly their parents are looking for their students,

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to earn a degree. So if that's the

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path that they want to take, they can

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they can earn an associate's degree with us,

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which means they not only take the hands

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on classes, but they they take math, and

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they take tech writing, and they take history,

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or transfer those credits in.

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And then we have this really unique sort

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of cool

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relationship with a culinary school in

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brands

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called Du.

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It's a relatively new relationship, but it's an

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articulation agreement. So someone who

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grabs an associate's degree with us and wants

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to pursue a bachelor's

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degree

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can go to to to to France,

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and they'll accept our entire program over there

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and they can keep education going and going

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and going. So

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it's It's... You know know, everybody,

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you know, has an opportunity to do something

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that's, you know, super cool for them. We...

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We... And here in Boulder, Roger, we also

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have...

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What I call home cooked classes. Right? So,

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like, if you wanted to come in with

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your family and just spend,

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you know, 4 days with us, on what

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we call the Tour of France,

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you can do that. And that's 12 hours

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and you're out. Right? But Wow. You have

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a really good time, you know, cooking French

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food for 4 days. Right? So I we

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we just have to take care of everything

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for everybody. Right? Oh I... I'm just... I'm

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getting so excited about this. This is... This...

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It's sounds so appealing. Which reminds me 1

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of the opportunities because I had once. Was

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I got to spend a day in the

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kitchen at the Culinary Institute at the Grey.

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Okay? Beautiful pay kitchen. Yeah. Beautiful property. Yeah.

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I mean,

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I don't know how I got so lucky.

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I... I think I know. We actually were

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bringing some other ins. We had other people

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that we were bringing in, like, registered diet

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and others that that we were able to

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do a cooperative program. So Yeah. And and

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I just thought we were trying to help

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people get in and have that experience and

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they all the team and we had, like,

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everybody was at 1 station with a chef.

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And then spread out across that large area.

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And and I... And they say, hey. You

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can come and do it too, Roger, So

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I kinda of like,

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you know, that it got a got a

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knife and didn't cut my finger off or

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anything, and and, you know... But it made

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you feel good. Right? It made you really

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feel like you accomplished something. Got still makes

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me feel good. Nina, it makes me feel

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good right now. I think a... Man that

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was 1 of the best best afternoon of

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my life. It well he, you know, before

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we started recording, you, and I were talking

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a little bit about a common friend and

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for Na metz. And Yeah. You know, he's

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he...

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Was he deserves a lot of credit for,

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the landscape of culinary

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education today. You know? He had the foresight

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years and years and years and years ago

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to...

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Attach a degree to culinary education brilliant. And

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you know what? I mean, I I've I

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met him and had him involved in some.

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Program, when I was the president of the

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American Lamb council.

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And way before it was fashionable,

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He was showing the

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program What should I say there the respect

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that goes beyond respect for the source of

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the product?

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Or the quality of the foods of the

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farming and ranch practices I mean, this is

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years before people were talking about farm to

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table.

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And

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and that he was expressing that. And, Bet

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right now, You... Could go back,

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and you could talk to him about the

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lamb,

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and he would be able to tell you

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the... Not only the age and where they

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came from to but the breed, he would

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be able to tell you that you know

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what that lamb was from, a, a white

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faced you,

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and a blackface face ram that's probably

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hampshire or suffolk,

540
00:20:32,522 --> 00:20:34,137
and it was probably Columbia

541
00:20:34,752 --> 00:20:37,239
and that it degrade at this, and it

542
00:20:37,239 --> 00:20:39,396
might have a little bit of feed at

543
00:20:39,396 --> 00:20:41,974
the end in a in a feeding program,

544
00:20:42,833 --> 00:20:43,333
and

545
00:20:44,031 --> 00:20:46,204
and he'd knew all about it at and

546
00:20:46,204 --> 00:20:47,802
he also had met many of the ranchers,

547
00:20:48,042 --> 00:20:49,480
and you could not... It wasn't just lamb.

548
00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:50,998
He could take other things too.

549
00:20:51,797 --> 00:20:52,297
So

550
00:20:52,676 --> 00:20:54,195
I'm... I don't know why it took like,

551
00:20:54,528 --> 00:20:57,464
decades for people to catch on to burden

552
00:20:57,464 --> 00:20:59,472
in and some of the other vision. But

553
00:20:59,925 --> 00:21:02,243
but I I would think that that's that's

554
00:21:02,243 --> 00:21:03,461
a pretty widespread

555
00:21:04,158 --> 00:21:07,030
respect today. Wouldn't it and that don't you

556
00:21:07,030 --> 00:21:08,626
have an a lot of your students?

557
00:21:09,357 --> 00:21:11,976
Come kinda prepared with a recognition of why

558
00:21:11,976 --> 00:21:12,690
that's important.

559
00:21:13,722 --> 00:21:15,730
Yeah. Yeah. And you said the perfect word

560
00:21:15,785 --> 00:21:19,156
respect, respect for the craft? That we're helping

561
00:21:19,370 --> 00:21:20,083
people learn,

562
00:21:20,955 --> 00:21:23,571
and re respect for those who grow our

563
00:21:23,571 --> 00:21:25,181
food. Right? And

564
00:21:25,569 --> 00:21:27,563
And I use that term in general,

565
00:21:28,281 --> 00:21:30,594
in in the general sense, right, grow our

566
00:21:30,594 --> 00:21:31,790
animals almost grow our food.

567
00:21:32,907 --> 00:21:34,502
And and I'd almost have to go all

568
00:21:34,502 --> 00:21:36,910
the way back to a goose to sc.

569
00:21:36,990 --> 00:21:38,824
If you go back a hundred years ago,

570
00:21:39,462 --> 00:21:40,202
that gentleman

571
00:21:40,739 --> 00:21:42,493
had the foresight and you can see his

572
00:21:42,493 --> 00:21:44,009
picture just above my head there.

573
00:21:45,698 --> 00:21:46,198
Augustus,

574
00:21:46,572 --> 00:21:47,947
the foresight to

575
00:21:48,401 --> 00:21:52,138
to source locally. And Yeah, and among so

576
00:21:52,138 --> 00:21:55,134
many other things creating the Brigade system and

577
00:21:55,333 --> 00:21:58,274
you know, putting chefs into uniforms and and

578
00:21:58,274 --> 00:22:00,738
and giving them benefits and really, you know,

579
00:22:00,817 --> 00:22:02,033
focusing on what,

580
00:22:03,057 --> 00:22:04,566
you know, what was important to them.

581
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,106
But you, you, Roger, I'm not sure, you

582
00:22:07,106 --> 00:22:09,035
know, that we talked about this yet, But

583
00:22:09,408 --> 00:22:10,226
the Sc

584
00:22:11,174 --> 00:22:13,830
Augustus School of Culinary Actually has

585
00:22:14,529 --> 00:22:15,348
a trademark

586
00:22:15,887 --> 00:22:17,165
on the term,

587
00:22:17,819 --> 00:22:18,878
farm table

588
00:22:19,497 --> 00:22:21,755
in the education space in.

589
00:22:23,252 --> 00:22:25,031
Oh to help answer your question

590
00:22:25,742 --> 00:22:27,570
when students find us,

591
00:22:28,444 --> 00:22:29,182
they realize

592
00:22:29,716 --> 00:22:29,954
that...

593
00:22:30,749 --> 00:22:32,576
And and and it's not just a cliche.

594
00:22:32,735 --> 00:22:34,086
Right? When you go out to dinner,

595
00:22:34,578 --> 00:22:36,880
these days. Right? You open the menu or

596
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,738
you use the Qr code or whatever. Right?

597
00:22:40,532 --> 00:22:42,835
There are certain things that you expect to

598
00:22:42,835 --> 00:22:43,335
see

599
00:22:43,963 --> 00:22:46,433
more than maybe we expected to see 30

600
00:22:46,433 --> 00:22:49,381
years ago. Right? Yeah. It's important for us

601
00:22:49,381 --> 00:22:50,120
to know

602
00:22:50,576 --> 00:22:53,460
if that's salmon was line cut. It's important

603
00:22:53,460 --> 00:22:56,670
for us to know that those finger potatoes

604
00:22:57,126 --> 00:22:59,692
were from Eric Sk fault... Arm here and

605
00:22:59,692 --> 00:23:02,803
boulder. It it really is really important for

606
00:23:02,803 --> 00:23:05,036
people to know that, and not every restaurant

607
00:23:05,036 --> 00:23:08,806
does that, But our obligation to our students

608
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,516
is to at least make them aware that

609
00:23:11,516 --> 00:23:12,575
they have choices.

610
00:23:13,034 --> 00:23:14,712
They have choices here at the school.

611
00:23:15,271 --> 00:23:17,284
We don't always. I mean, it's seasonal. Right?

612
00:23:17,524 --> 00:23:19,143
We don't always have carrots

613
00:23:19,522 --> 00:23:21,839
from a local farm, but we sure try.

614
00:23:22,638 --> 00:23:24,956
And if their carrots aren't available from the

615
00:23:24,956 --> 00:23:25,856
local farm

616
00:23:26,887 --> 00:23:27,387
because

617
00:23:27,842 --> 00:23:30,468
our education here is about the technique, We

618
00:23:30,468 --> 00:23:32,377
might switch the ingredient.

619
00:23:33,412 --> 00:23:35,481
Switch the ingredient to something that's local.

620
00:23:36,054 --> 00:23:37,250
Right? It doesn't have to be a carrot

621
00:23:37,330 --> 00:23:38,208
It could be a par.

622
00:23:38,766 --> 00:23:39,963
Could be an eggplant. It could be anything.

623
00:23:40,123 --> 00:23:42,777
Right? And then we'll apply the technique. But

624
00:23:43,328 --> 00:23:45,735
I just... I love the idea

625
00:23:46,506 --> 00:23:48,810
that we're trying to help students.

626
00:23:50,494 --> 00:23:53,055
To be more cognizant about where their food

627
00:23:53,055 --> 00:23:55,215
comes from. Think about it. And if that

628
00:23:55,215 --> 00:23:57,295
helps them when they're at the grocery store,

629
00:23:57,868 --> 00:23:58,983
or it helps them when they get on

630
00:23:58,983 --> 00:24:00,177
the phone with their parents,

631
00:24:00,735 --> 00:24:02,406
and it it helps them when they go

632
00:24:02,406 --> 00:24:03,702
to their first job

633
00:24:04,078 --> 00:24:05,352
when they leave a sc,

634
00:24:06,164 --> 00:24:07,863
to make people aware

635
00:24:08,401 --> 00:24:09,940
that that that

636
00:24:10,479 --> 00:24:10,979
sustainability

637
00:24:11,597 --> 00:24:13,456
and local sourcing matter

638
00:24:14,088 --> 00:24:16,158
then we've done our job. And And I

639
00:24:16,158 --> 00:24:17,750
mean that from the bottom of my heart.

640
00:24:18,943 --> 00:24:22,065
You know, I I really appreciate that. But

641
00:24:22,065 --> 00:24:23,984
it makes me pause a little bit and

642
00:24:23,984 --> 00:24:25,744
kinda wondering it's with chicken and the egg

643
00:24:25,744 --> 00:24:27,585
thing if I'm kind of mixing my metaphors

644
00:24:27,585 --> 00:24:27,744
here,

645
00:24:28,704 --> 00:24:30,224
because on the 1 hand,

646
00:24:30,959 --> 00:24:33,137
I can see the role of a school

647
00:24:34,474 --> 00:24:37,530
saying that, you know, this is important

648
00:24:37,924 --> 00:24:39,602
for, say, society.

649
00:24:40,321 --> 00:24:42,238
Or, I could say it's

650
00:24:42,638 --> 00:24:46,086
it's important for the local economy or it's

651
00:24:46,086 --> 00:24:46,586
important

652
00:24:46,964 --> 00:24:48,240
because of taste.

653
00:24:49,596 --> 00:24:52,866
And and and also, it's important because it's

654
00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:54,461
important already to customers.

655
00:24:55,194 --> 00:24:59,102
So so somehow, you kinda have to touch

656
00:24:59,102 --> 00:25:00,378
on a little bit of all that don't

657
00:25:00,378 --> 00:25:02,451
you. I mean, and and so it's gonna

658
00:25:02,451 --> 00:25:04,047
the people that are gonna come to your

659
00:25:04,047 --> 00:25:04,286
restaurant.

660
00:25:04,938 --> 00:25:06,684
Are going to are gonna be able to

661
00:25:06,684 --> 00:25:08,827
tell the difference. 1 are gonna be able

662
00:25:08,827 --> 00:25:10,097
to feel the difference perhaps,

663
00:25:11,050 --> 00:25:13,272
and would appreciate that it's important enough for

664
00:25:13,272 --> 00:25:15,440
you to possibly mentioned it on the menu

665
00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,754
and be able to answer questions about the

666
00:25:17,754 --> 00:25:18,074
supply.

667
00:25:19,111 --> 00:25:21,505
A really, really good friend of the school.

668
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:23,994
And and someone who's become a dear friend

669
00:25:23,994 --> 00:25:24,813
of mine

670
00:25:25,430 --> 00:25:26,228
and my son,

671
00:25:27,266 --> 00:25:29,261
because we visited the farm together as a

672
00:25:29,261 --> 00:25:31,261
gentleman the name of Lee Jones. He goes

673
00:25:31,261 --> 00:25:32,292
by farmer Lee Jones,

674
00:25:33,164 --> 00:25:34,909
and his family, and I'm sure you know

675
00:25:34,909 --> 00:25:38,177
them, Roger. Yeah. His his family at you

676
00:25:38,177 --> 00:25:39,689
know, has a has a farm called the

677
00:25:39,848 --> 00:25:41,917
Chefs garden in Euro, Ohio. And.

678
00:25:42,633 --> 00:25:44,781
You know, we've been working with the family

679
00:25:44,781 --> 00:25:46,873
for several years now, and it really

680
00:25:47,263 --> 00:25:48,320
took on a new

681
00:25:48,933 --> 00:25:51,877
sort of appearance during the pandemic. Right? Right

682
00:25:51,877 --> 00:25:53,547
and he was trying to figure out,

683
00:25:54,199 --> 00:25:56,676
how to get product to to the to

684
00:25:56,676 --> 00:25:58,514
the restaurants that we're posing,

685
00:25:59,712 --> 00:26:01,071
and that sort of thing. But,

686
00:26:02,442 --> 00:26:05,148
We... He says it perfectly. Every 6 weeks,

687
00:26:05,307 --> 00:26:06,443
we have a webinar

688
00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:08,888
with our online students.

689
00:26:09,778 --> 00:26:10,575
Just formerly,

690
00:26:11,132 --> 00:26:13,600
myself and how many hundreds of students wanna

691
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,317
join in. Right?

692
00:26:15,033 --> 00:26:17,024
And we sit there. He sits there on

693
00:26:17,024 --> 00:26:17,581
the farm,

694
00:26:18,154 --> 00:26:21,126
with a with a beautiful bounty of seasonal

695
00:26:21,184 --> 00:26:23,258
product in front of them. You. And we've

696
00:26:23,258 --> 00:26:24,853
got it down to an art. Right? We

697
00:26:24,853 --> 00:26:26,846
know we wanna talk about the history and

698
00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:27,346
why

699
00:26:27,658 --> 00:26:30,678
that particular farm is so special on the

700
00:26:30,678 --> 00:26:32,188
on the, you know, you know, the shores

701
00:26:32,188 --> 00:26:34,413
of lake Erie and all of that. But

702
00:26:34,413 --> 00:26:36,320
the 1 thing that I love about formerly,

703
00:26:36,734 --> 00:26:37,934
he loves 1 question,

704
00:26:38,734 --> 00:26:41,054
1 question more than anything that he's ever

705
00:26:41,054 --> 00:26:43,075
asked, then that is when a chef calls

706
00:26:43,375 --> 00:26:45,303
and says, is what should I put on

707
00:26:45,303 --> 00:26:48,322
the menu? He loves that question. Because 1

708
00:26:48,322 --> 00:26:50,150
he gets a little... He gets a little

709
00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:51,183
excited about it. Right?

710
00:26:52,071 --> 00:26:53,262
Because his answer is easy,

711
00:26:53,817 --> 00:26:57,705
whatever's in season. That's his answer. Right? We

712
00:26:57,705 --> 00:26:59,712
have... You might think to yourself

713
00:27:00,897 --> 00:27:03,528
you know, we control the narrative here on

714
00:27:03,528 --> 00:27:05,601
ground. Right? Because we bring the product in.

715
00:27:06,079 --> 00:27:07,514
We put it in front of our students.

716
00:27:07,674 --> 00:27:08,471
We help them.

717
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:13,248
Understand flavor profiles. They bite into the products,

718
00:27:13,406 --> 00:27:15,890
whether we're breaking down a whole hog or

719
00:27:16,199 --> 00:27:18,191
or a leg of lamb or flying fish,

720
00:27:18,351 --> 00:27:20,343
whatever it is or biting into a carrot.

721
00:27:21,140 --> 00:27:23,393
Online, we have to really

722
00:27:24,263 --> 00:27:27,613
evan. Right? We have to we have to

723
00:27:27,613 --> 00:27:30,804
ask students for action. So we we we

724
00:27:30,804 --> 00:27:33,276
have a we have AA1 class in particular

725
00:27:33,276 --> 00:27:35,360
that I I jot it down for our

726
00:27:35,360 --> 00:27:35,996
chat today.

727
00:27:37,348 --> 00:27:39,495
And they have an assignment in their class

728
00:27:39,495 --> 00:27:39,995
where,

729
00:27:41,165 --> 00:27:43,176
we we focus specifically

730
00:27:43,963 --> 00:27:46,352
on seasonality. And all we ask them to

731
00:27:46,352 --> 00:27:46,852
do

732
00:27:47,228 --> 00:27:48,900
is to make a soup and a quick

733
00:27:48,900 --> 00:27:50,969
bread. So so by the time they get

734
00:27:50,969 --> 00:27:51,867
to this class

735
00:27:52,179 --> 00:27:55,059
they understand knife cuts, and they understand how

736
00:27:55,059 --> 00:27:55,940
to make a stock.

737
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,740
So they understand the technique of how to

738
00:27:58,740 --> 00:28:01,387
put a soup together, but we ask them

739
00:28:01,387 --> 00:28:03,399
what we encourage them to do

740
00:28:03,854 --> 00:28:06,240
is to go find some local ingredients. We

741
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,570
are not... We don't prescribe,

742
00:28:09,518 --> 00:28:10,316
that their,

743
00:28:10,954 --> 00:28:14,143
miss min soup has to have. This this,

744
00:28:14,302 --> 00:28:15,179
this, this and this,

745
00:28:15,897 --> 00:28:18,050
what we what we encourage them to do

746
00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:20,759
is to find ingredients that are local that

747
00:28:20,759 --> 00:28:21,735
they can afford

748
00:28:22,106 --> 00:28:24,800
that they could put together and create a

749
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,750
soup to using the technique that we encourage

750
00:28:27,750 --> 00:28:30,392
them. And and that has been

751
00:28:31,241 --> 00:28:31,741
particularly

752
00:28:32,272 --> 00:28:33,724
rewarding that this

753
00:28:34,192 --> 00:28:36,022
it used to be... Sorry if I get

754
00:28:36,022 --> 00:28:36,522
2

755
00:28:37,136 --> 00:28:38,886
on my on my soap box here, but

756
00:28:38,886 --> 00:28:41,352
it used to be Roger 30 years ago,

757
00:28:41,591 --> 00:28:42,307
40 years ago,

758
00:28:42,878 --> 00:28:45,185
that that if you wanted to know about

759
00:28:45,185 --> 00:28:45,685
culinary,

760
00:28:47,174 --> 00:28:48,924
the craft to culinary or baking,

761
00:28:49,974 --> 00:28:51,974
you had to go to culinary school because

762
00:28:51,974 --> 00:28:53,174
that's where knowledge was kept.

763
00:28:53,815 --> 00:28:55,255
That's where it was kept. Whether you liked

764
00:28:55,255 --> 00:28:57,494
it or not, there was no social media,

765
00:28:57,909 --> 00:29:00,062
There were few culinary books. It was all

766
00:29:00,062 --> 00:29:02,534
in the talk of those who stood before

767
00:29:02,534 --> 00:29:04,208
us, but that has changed.

768
00:29:04,846 --> 00:29:05,745
There's more

769
00:29:06,201 --> 00:29:06,441
education.

770
00:29:07,254 --> 00:29:08,214
Social media,

771
00:29:09,174 --> 00:29:11,434
video... There's so much education

772
00:29:11,734 --> 00:29:14,214
everywhere everywhere around us, not just in culinary,

773
00:29:14,628 --> 00:29:16,218
in any field field of study.

774
00:29:16,933 --> 00:29:20,112
All we ask are instructors to do today,

775
00:29:20,669 --> 00:29:23,312
and it's a tough job It's a rewarding

776
00:29:23,312 --> 00:29:26,287
job. It's a wonderful job to be an

777
00:29:26,345 --> 00:29:29,219
instructor to be a teacher. Right? What we

778
00:29:29,219 --> 00:29:31,430
ask them to do today might even be

779
00:29:31,709 --> 00:29:33,944
tougher than it was 30 years ago, we

780
00:29:33,944 --> 00:29:36,019
asked them to be facilitator of knowledge.

781
00:29:36,896 --> 00:29:38,035
Flip the classroom,

782
00:29:38,573 --> 00:29:39,711
ask your students

783
00:29:40,103 --> 00:29:42,492
send your students a video, send your students

784
00:29:42,492 --> 00:29:45,200
an article, send your students something. And then

785
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,315
when you come together,

786
00:29:46,873 --> 00:29:48,466
ask your students what they think.

787
00:29:49,117 --> 00:29:51,420
Stop lecturing at them, talk with them.

788
00:29:52,056 --> 00:29:55,153
It's not easy for everyone, But that's that's

789
00:29:55,153 --> 00:29:57,138
that's the approach that we try. And and,

790
00:29:57,218 --> 00:29:57,536
you know,

791
00:29:58,585 --> 00:30:00,984
you know, so far so good. Well, and

792
00:30:00,984 --> 00:30:02,585
and you know, I'm thinking back at Farmer

793
00:30:02,585 --> 00:30:03,065
lee Jones.

794
00:30:03,785 --> 00:30:05,704
Yeah. Yeah. Be think about.

795
00:30:06,276 --> 00:30:08,024
Yeah. Well, that's true. And the for people

796
00:30:08,024 --> 00:30:10,010
that... He's been on... He's been on farm

797
00:30:10,010 --> 00:30:11,281
table talk. I don't like him a lot.

798
00:30:11,678 --> 00:30:13,602
Oh, yes. That's great. So you're get out

799
00:30:13,602 --> 00:30:15,517
there. I gotta take a picture and send

800
00:30:15,517 --> 00:30:16,713
it to him later. I'm gonna take a

801
00:30:16,713 --> 00:30:19,345
picture of us, and oh, 0, I'll send

802
00:30:19,345 --> 00:30:21,418
it to him. Yeah. Yeah. We talk weekly.

803
00:30:21,658 --> 00:30:23,902
We talk, do. Yeah. You know Yeah. So...

804
00:30:24,141 --> 00:30:25,334
And when when you're out there, Does he...

805
00:30:25,492 --> 00:30:26,765
Was is he wearing the bib overalls with

806
00:30:26,765 --> 00:30:28,594
a white shirt and the the... He's got

807
00:30:28,594 --> 00:30:31,638
13. He's got 13 outfits and they're all

808
00:30:31,775 --> 00:30:32,331
the same.

809
00:30:35,777 --> 00:30:37,214
We think about it He and his brother,

810
00:30:37,374 --> 00:30:40,108
Bob. It's such a... It's such a wonderful

811
00:30:40,726 --> 00:30:43,129
relationship. Bob's. Spends most of his time, you

812
00:30:43,129 --> 00:30:45,038
know, on the business on the on the

813
00:30:45,038 --> 00:30:46,788
on the research, the lab,

814
00:30:48,394 --> 00:30:50,458
and and Washington Dc and that sort of

815
00:30:50,458 --> 00:30:52,839
thing interacting with American Farm bureau and all

816
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:53,236
of that.

817
00:30:53,951 --> 00:30:55,721
And and farmer is

818
00:30:56,268 --> 00:30:58,655
you know, you you probably saw an Instagram,

819
00:30:58,973 --> 00:31:00,905
Thomas Keller celebrated his t

820
00:31:01,281 --> 00:31:03,031
anniversary in Napa last week. Right?

821
00:31:03,841 --> 00:31:05,746
Well, guess what? Formerly was at the top

822
00:31:05,746 --> 00:31:07,652
of the invite list because he knows everyone

823
00:31:07,652 --> 00:31:07,890
there.

824
00:31:08,526 --> 00:31:11,543
He has dedicated his life and his family's

825
00:31:11,543 --> 00:31:12,440
work to

826
00:31:13,068 --> 00:31:13,568
providing

827
00:31:14,582 --> 00:31:16,653
what chefs want. That's what he should've have

828
00:31:16,653 --> 00:31:19,282
called is. This fits that he he creates

829
00:31:19,282 --> 00:31:21,115
what chefs want. If they want a Zucchini,

830
00:31:21,194 --> 00:31:23,522
the size of your pink Pink, that's what

831
00:31:23,522 --> 00:31:24,240
he's gonna grow.

832
00:31:24,958 --> 00:31:27,852
And and it's it's pretty special. It's pretty

833
00:31:28,549 --> 00:31:30,145
do you know and and another...

834
00:31:30,719 --> 00:31:32,314
Group like that. That... I know you... Did

835
00:31:32,314 --> 00:31:34,228
you know John and Su Jam that had

836
00:31:34,228 --> 00:31:37,258
lamb back in Pennsylvania, but they also had

837
00:31:37,258 --> 00:31:39,491
that relationship with chefs and they're good friends

838
00:31:39,491 --> 00:31:42,621
and they they've recently retired from having the

839
00:31:42,621 --> 00:31:44,618
processing plant, and I think they're gonna start

840
00:31:44,618 --> 00:31:46,935
getting some more sheep again. But but I...

841
00:31:48,069 --> 00:31:50,067
The thing that really struck in my mind

842
00:31:50,067 --> 00:31:52,704
from what like 5, 6 minutes ago or

843
00:31:52,704 --> 00:31:55,261
so when we started you started mentioning farmer

844
00:31:55,341 --> 00:31:55,900
Lee Jones.

845
00:31:56,875 --> 00:31:57,375
Was

846
00:31:58,234 --> 00:31:59,454
the important question

847
00:32:00,075 --> 00:32:00,795
that he said.

848
00:32:01,755 --> 00:32:02,255
That

849
00:32:02,555 --> 00:32:04,234
because it strikes me that when you were

850
00:32:04,234 --> 00:32:06,804
going the list, of what's required for people

851
00:32:06,804 --> 00:32:09,277
that are in this profession, the chefs in

852
00:32:09,277 --> 00:32:09,936
the culinary

853
00:32:10,314 --> 00:32:11,271
traditions and so forth.

854
00:32:12,228 --> 00:32:14,621
You could have added humility, which is not

855
00:32:14,621 --> 00:32:15,075
what

856
00:32:15,992 --> 00:32:17,906
normally gets in the lineup of being a

857
00:32:17,906 --> 00:32:19,421
typical chef personality.

858
00:32:20,538 --> 00:32:23,250
But it but the humility of being able

859
00:32:23,250 --> 00:32:24,765
to meet, I don't have all the answers.

860
00:32:25,498 --> 00:32:26,774
And to be able to go to the

861
00:32:26,774 --> 00:32:28,290
farmer and say, what I put on the

862
00:32:28,290 --> 00:32:30,045
menu or what should I be looking for

863
00:32:30,045 --> 00:32:32,437
right now? Because the farmer knows what's growing

864
00:32:32,437 --> 00:32:34,671
well and what's getting tremendous flavors right now?

865
00:32:35,244 --> 00:32:38,440
I that's a really important point, Kirk. Yeah.

866
00:32:39,079 --> 00:32:41,556
I I was... And I'm sure you're familiar

867
00:32:41,556 --> 00:32:41,716
with...

868
00:32:42,515 --> 00:32:42,569
But

869
00:32:43,884 --> 00:32:47,073
Dan Barber chef bob and in, you, New

870
00:32:47,152 --> 00:32:49,065
York area there blue Blue Hill,

871
00:32:50,833 --> 00:32:52,980
And III was there a years ago,

872
00:32:54,093 --> 00:32:56,104
just to experience the regenerative

873
00:32:56,558 --> 00:32:59,261
nature of what he's created there. Right? Mh.

874
00:33:00,549 --> 00:33:02,223
And it was really interesting because he was

875
00:33:02,223 --> 00:33:03,738
talking to us about the lamb,

876
00:33:05,173 --> 00:33:06,550
and he was talking about

877
00:33:07,007 --> 00:33:08,442
where the lambs were grazing.

878
00:33:09,334 --> 00:33:10,289
And in his mind,

879
00:33:11,403 --> 00:33:13,791
he knew that certain times of the year

880
00:33:13,791 --> 00:33:14,689
that his customers

881
00:33:15,144 --> 00:33:16,759
would appreciate a certain

882
00:33:17,549 --> 00:33:20,746
sort of flavor profile. Yep. So he had

883
00:33:20,746 --> 00:33:21,246
lavender

884
00:33:21,625 --> 00:33:24,102
over on this hill. Right? And and he

885
00:33:24,102 --> 00:33:26,420
would ensure that the lamb passed through that

886
00:33:26,420 --> 00:33:26,740
area,

887
00:33:27,314 --> 00:33:28,611
and then that lavender

888
00:33:29,308 --> 00:33:32,418
scented lamb would be accompanied by a specific

889
00:33:32,418 --> 00:33:34,731
wine and a in a specific, you know,

890
00:33:34,891 --> 00:33:36,986
side dish, and then he had other

891
00:33:37,298 --> 00:33:38,730
you know, examples of that.

892
00:33:39,367 --> 00:33:40,560
And and until used...

893
00:33:41,197 --> 00:33:42,629
And I I was there with my wife,

894
00:33:42,789 --> 00:33:43,289
and,

895
00:33:43,823 --> 00:33:46,861
I mean, it almost becomes emotional, like, Sure.

896
00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:49,986
Yeah oh my God. We're so thoughtful.

897
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:51,655
Right? And so

898
00:33:52,110 --> 00:33:53,961
respectful of the animal

899
00:33:54,654 --> 00:33:55,870
that you are

900
00:33:56,658 --> 00:33:59,945
you know, you're you're respecting how they live

901
00:34:00,639 --> 00:34:02,789
Yeah. Before you turn that into a product

902
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:04,563
for your customers. And and

903
00:34:04,954 --> 00:34:06,795
it it's it stayed with me.

904
00:34:08,315 --> 00:34:10,394
And Dan Barber was boulder or not that

905
00:34:10,394 --> 00:34:11,034
long ago.

906
00:34:12,569 --> 00:34:14,802
At at at the boulder library, which is

907
00:34:14,802 --> 00:34:18,551
a sanctuary on Pearl Street. Right? Sure. Just

908
00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:20,784
talking about what was his recent book at

909
00:34:20,784 --> 00:34:21,842
that time and

910
00:34:22,474 --> 00:34:25,197
you know, the, you know, people were crying

911
00:34:25,253 --> 00:34:25,992
in the

912
00:34:26,524 --> 00:34:29,304
in the audience because of how much respect

913
00:34:29,304 --> 00:34:29,940
he has,

914
00:34:30,575 --> 00:34:32,420
you for the way they raise their animals,

915
00:34:32,579 --> 00:34:35,365
and what they feed them. Right? And Yeah.

916
00:34:35,525 --> 00:34:36,718
What your experience is,

917
00:34:37,912 --> 00:34:39,425
you know, and he's blessed to be able

918
00:34:39,425 --> 00:34:42,641
to do something like, that. Right? Family farm

919
00:34:44,124 --> 00:34:45,180
But he was getting

920
00:34:45,632 --> 00:34:47,219
he was getting his lamb from

921
00:34:47,949 --> 00:34:51,222
John and Su in in Pennsylvania. Isn't that

922
00:34:51,222 --> 00:34:53,536
incredible about I... And they they introduced me

923
00:34:53,536 --> 00:34:55,611
to him, and we we've spoken and we're

924
00:34:55,611 --> 00:34:56,385
still trying to get

925
00:34:56,902 --> 00:34:59,632
a time scheduled for Dan Barber to be

926
00:34:59,770 --> 00:35:01,840
to be a guest. On the show, oh

927
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,628
my gosh. That's would be amazing. That be

928
00:35:04,628 --> 00:35:04,708
alright.

929
00:35:06,077 --> 00:35:07,509
I've been to the restaurant of Into Blue

930
00:35:07,588 --> 00:35:09,895
Hill before and Had a wonderful meal. But

931
00:35:09,974 --> 00:35:12,122
I doesn't... But the stories. I mean, you

932
00:35:12,122 --> 00:35:14,191
know, from his books and and so forth,

933
00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,472
when you see it, when you see somebody

934
00:35:17,472 --> 00:35:19,623
that is engaged to that level? And has

935
00:35:19,623 --> 00:35:20,920
that appreciation

936
00:35:21,376 --> 00:35:24,059
for for nature and kinda going with,

937
00:35:24,817 --> 00:35:28,245
you know, what's seasonal and what's, you know,

938
00:35:28,324 --> 00:35:29,999
the best place to look for this product

939
00:35:29,999 --> 00:35:32,605
and and and for that product. So

940
00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,878
Like I know it like, right now out

941
00:35:34,878 --> 00:35:35,776
here in

942
00:35:36,154 --> 00:35:36,654
Sacramento.

943
00:35:37,749 --> 00:35:39,344
I'm buying a lot of stone fruit.

944
00:35:39,982 --> 00:35:42,317
I mean, you know, the... I just had

945
00:35:42,789 --> 00:35:45,575
I switch my whole breakfast idea so that

946
00:35:45,655 --> 00:35:45,973
I can,

947
00:35:46,849 --> 00:35:49,795
have some of these wonderful peaches. There's a

948
00:35:49,795 --> 00:35:50,511
place called,

949
00:35:51,641 --> 00:35:54,350
twin peaks, and there's some, some other orchard

950
00:35:54,350 --> 00:35:57,957
around here that they just unbelievably good. And

951
00:35:58,269 --> 00:36:00,343
It won't it won't be much longer before

952
00:36:00,343 --> 00:36:02,257
the pears are equal in and

953
00:36:03,134 --> 00:36:04,171
enjoy it while you can.

954
00:36:05,367 --> 00:36:07,361
And isn't it funny that different play? I

955
00:36:07,361 --> 00:36:08,964
spend some time. In Oregon. That's where I

956
00:36:08,964 --> 00:36:09,598
went to college.

957
00:36:10,311 --> 00:36:10,811
And,

958
00:36:11,341 --> 00:36:14,431
you know, there's specific places in the country.

959
00:36:14,985 --> 00:36:15,119
In

960
00:36:15,875 --> 00:36:18,020
you know, your watermelon had to come from

961
00:36:18,099 --> 00:36:22,254
Eastern Oregon. It's just, you know, your your

962
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:24,235
peaches... III love, you know, it's that time

963
00:36:24,235 --> 00:36:25,855
of the year. Right? And Colorado,

964
00:36:26,474 --> 00:36:28,394
there's only 1 place to get peaches and

965
00:36:28,394 --> 00:36:30,635
that is in Pal. Right? Yeah. Just

966
00:36:32,088 --> 00:36:34,322
you know, outside of grand junction there. And

967
00:36:34,322 --> 00:36:34,822
and

968
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:36,875
you, you know, the other thing, Roger, if

969
00:36:37,035 --> 00:36:38,891
I could, I wanted to just mention

970
00:36:39,284 --> 00:36:41,038
you know, you talk about farm the table

971
00:36:41,038 --> 00:36:42,973
and you talk about respect for the farmer

972
00:36:43,429 --> 00:36:45,741
and those who grow our food and those

973
00:36:45,741 --> 00:36:48,224
who harvest our food. We, We have the

974
00:36:48,224 --> 00:36:50,552
luxury on both our Austin and Boulder campus

975
00:36:52,277 --> 00:36:54,422
of allowing students and in 1 of their

976
00:36:54,422 --> 00:36:57,089
final... Classes, which is call farm the table

977
00:36:57,148 --> 00:36:57,626
ironically,

978
00:36:59,381 --> 00:37:02,172
that visiting the farms is part of the

979
00:37:02,172 --> 00:37:04,326
curriculum. Right? So in their last block,

980
00:37:04,979 --> 00:37:06,972
which is 6 weeks long. They... You know,

981
00:37:07,052 --> 00:37:08,509
they take 5 or 6 visits

982
00:37:09,045 --> 00:37:11,140
to the farm. But but the farmer

983
00:37:11,995 --> 00:37:14,640
drives that narrative, Right? So because

984
00:37:15,357 --> 00:37:17,427
Because this curriculum goes all year round,

985
00:37:18,064 --> 00:37:19,679
we will be visiting farms

986
00:37:20,055 --> 00:37:21,909
in January and in February.

987
00:37:22,619 --> 00:37:25,495
Not just July, August September. Right? So there

988
00:37:25,495 --> 00:37:28,211
are an amazing amount of things,

989
00:37:29,744 --> 00:37:32,450
that happen on farms as you know Yep.

990
00:37:32,848 --> 00:37:34,041
All year round.

991
00:37:34,598 --> 00:37:37,407
And so that gives our students an opportunity

992
00:37:38,259 --> 00:37:38,759
to

993
00:37:39,469 --> 00:37:41,168
help playing a field, help,

994
00:37:42,585 --> 00:37:44,444
you know, build a building or

995
00:37:44,902 --> 00:37:47,380
or not just harvesting beautiful crops,

996
00:37:48,112 --> 00:37:50,260
listening to a farmer story of what they're

997
00:37:50,260 --> 00:37:52,249
working on. Eric Sc,

998
00:37:53,283 --> 00:37:55,271
is a local farmer here, He and his

999
00:37:55,271 --> 00:37:55,987
wife Jill,

1000
00:37:57,117 --> 00:37:57,936
have been

1001
00:37:58,312 --> 00:38:01,180
farming over 400 acres for years. They also

1002
00:38:01,180 --> 00:38:02,476
have a few restaurants

1003
00:38:03,012 --> 00:38:03,512
on

1004
00:38:04,141 --> 00:38:07,079
fourteenth or fifteenth and pearl. Right? So so

1005
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,224
everyone knows black cat. Right? Mh

1006
00:38:10,018 --> 00:38:12,162
years ago, not that many years ago, but

1007
00:38:12,162 --> 00:38:14,428
a handful of years ago, Eric was our

1008
00:38:14,646 --> 00:38:15,944
graduation speaker, and

1009
00:38:16,482 --> 00:38:17,859
we we have beautiful

1010
00:38:18,237 --> 00:38:20,972
graduation ceremonies on the campus of Colorado University.

1011
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:24,086
Well in a in a beautiful, beautiful auditor

1012
00:38:24,221 --> 00:38:26,679
called Mack. So really, you know, it's an

1013
00:38:26,679 --> 00:38:29,162
emotional place. So Eric is the

1014
00:38:29,868 --> 00:38:33,046
Is the speaker this Sunday morning. He text

1015
00:38:33,046 --> 00:38:35,192
me says, I, sorry I'm running late.

1016
00:38:35,987 --> 00:38:38,371
He finally gets there. He's got boots on.

1017
00:38:38,704 --> 00:38:39,581
And they're filthy.

1018
00:38:40,378 --> 00:38:42,234
And he he leans over

1019
00:38:42,611 --> 00:38:44,923
and he whispers to me on stage,

1020
00:38:45,641 --> 00:38:47,395
sorry the pigs got out this morning,

1021
00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:50,930
And benny leans over to me again and

1022
00:38:50,930 --> 00:38:52,289
says, what do you want me to talk

1023
00:38:52,289 --> 00:38:52,530
about?

1024
00:38:53,170 --> 00:38:54,610
And I said talk about that.

1025
00:38:56,375 --> 00:38:59,181
And he did. And he did. Right? So

1026
00:38:59,476 --> 00:39:01,487
farmer lee's been a a speaker at our

1027
00:39:01,703 --> 00:39:03,452
graduation, and, you know, he didn't need a

1028
00:39:03,452 --> 00:39:04,699
podium because he

1029
00:39:05,539 --> 00:39:07,380
almost immediately moved that podium aside.

1030
00:39:08,099 --> 00:39:10,420
Got right in front of the the the

1031
00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:11,940
students just talking about his life.

1032
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:14,910
It's so we'll talking about lives. Let's talk

1033
00:39:14,910 --> 00:39:16,585
about Yours for a minute. I mean, we're

1034
00:39:16,585 --> 00:39:18,260
talking about all these other people on the

1035
00:39:18,260 --> 00:39:20,972
journey. I mean, how did you get enthused

1036
00:39:20,972 --> 00:39:23,386
and find yourself where you are today

1037
00:39:23,699 --> 00:39:26,172
and, and a chef. And then in a

1038
00:39:26,172 --> 00:39:28,327
program like you you have right now where

1039
00:39:28,327 --> 00:39:30,561
you're influencing 6000 and others a year that

1040
00:39:30,561 --> 00:39:32,882
are coming up a and and have that

1041
00:39:32,882 --> 00:39:35,425
vision. So at 1 point in time,

1042
00:39:36,697 --> 00:39:37,333
you got

1043
00:39:38,778 --> 00:39:40,288
You got the vision. You got to say,

1044
00:39:40,367 --> 00:39:42,513
oh, okay. I'm going this way. Tell us

1045
00:39:42,513 --> 00:39:44,500
about that journey for yourself and how you

1046
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:46,342
ended up doing what you're doing today? Well,

1047
00:39:46,501 --> 00:39:48,406
it's it's so kind of you, Roger. I

1048
00:39:48,406 --> 00:39:50,152
appreciate the opportunity to share. I'm... You know,

1049
00:39:50,311 --> 00:39:50,788
I'm proud of,

1050
00:39:51,979 --> 00:39:54,281
you know, my family. And so I'm I'm

1051
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:54,678
I'm a...

1052
00:39:55,408 --> 00:39:56,443
Fourth generation,

1053
00:39:57,717 --> 00:39:59,571
cook as my dad always

1054
00:40:00,027 --> 00:40:02,734
keeps me humble, and reminds me. You're a

1055
00:40:02,734 --> 00:40:03,371
cook for life.

1056
00:40:04,423 --> 00:40:05,859
Other people call you a chef. You don't

1057
00:40:05,859 --> 00:40:07,934
have to call yourself a chef. So my

1058
00:40:07,934 --> 00:40:08,333
father,

1059
00:40:08,971 --> 00:40:10,726
my my mother and father both come from

1060
00:40:10,806 --> 00:40:11,205
Germany,

1061
00:40:11,699 --> 00:40:13,776
my mother from the northern part, my father

1062
00:40:13,776 --> 00:40:14,276
from

1063
00:40:14,655 --> 00:40:16,833
the the far southern east

1064
00:40:17,211 --> 00:40:17,451
east,

1065
00:40:18,744 --> 00:40:20,998
part, Bo. He's bo.

1066
00:40:21,376 --> 00:40:21,536
Mh.

1067
00:40:22,333 --> 00:40:24,567
And that area of the world kinda, you

1068
00:40:24,567 --> 00:40:27,119
know, 1 decade, it's France, the next decade

1069
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:29,049
it's Germany, so it goes, back and forth.

1070
00:40:29,209 --> 00:40:30,328
But after the war,

1071
00:40:30,967 --> 00:40:31,686
war war 2,

1072
00:40:33,284 --> 00:40:36,081
you, you know, his his his father, my

1073
00:40:36,081 --> 00:40:37,140
grandfather was killed

1074
00:40:37,694 --> 00:40:40,007
at stalin G German soldier, And, you, you

1075
00:40:40,007 --> 00:40:41,363
know, they were forced out of their home.

1076
00:40:41,523 --> 00:40:42,023
And

1077
00:40:43,277 --> 00:40:45,112
you know, I didn't know this story until

1078
00:40:45,112 --> 00:40:47,106
years later. Right? My dad's pretty humble. He's

1079
00:40:47,106 --> 00:40:48,734
still alive 88. And

1080
00:40:50,460 --> 00:40:52,446
you know, a, like, a lot of people

1081
00:40:52,446 --> 00:40:53,185
they were

1082
00:40:53,797 --> 00:40:54,297
displaced

1083
00:40:54,830 --> 00:40:57,070
from their homes and 5 you know, a

1084
00:40:57,070 --> 00:40:57,570
farm

1085
00:40:58,421 --> 00:41:01,360
farming family took my my father and his

1086
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,084
3 siblings and his widowed mother at 30

1087
00:41:05,014 --> 00:41:05,990
in, and

1088
00:41:06,539 --> 00:41:10,446
And he's always spoke very enduring of how

1089
00:41:10,446 --> 00:41:11,664
well he was treated

1090
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:15,252
by this farming community that was kind of

1091
00:41:15,724 --> 00:41:17,342
you know, new to him. And

1092
00:41:19,077 --> 00:41:21,233
as is typical in Europe, my father as

1093
00:41:21,233 --> 00:41:22,212
soon he was

1094
00:41:22,590 --> 00:41:25,305
of age started what's called a journey ship,

1095
00:41:25,559 --> 00:41:28,032
So he worked for 6 years and a

1096
00:41:28,032 --> 00:41:29,866
variety of bakeries around the country,

1097
00:41:30,584 --> 00:41:33,216
and then completed a 3 year apprenticeship, which

1098
00:41:33,216 --> 00:41:34,891
is a little bit more of a formality.

1099
00:41:35,703 --> 00:41:37,797
And then in 19 58, he,

1100
00:41:38,572 --> 00:41:41,041
earned what's called the Mice brief, which is

1101
00:41:41,041 --> 00:41:42,237
his master shelf level.

1102
00:41:42,889 --> 00:41:45,112
In Du Do Germany. And in Germany at

1103
00:41:45,112 --> 00:41:46,699
the time and still today,

1104
00:41:47,494 --> 00:41:49,240
you can work in a bakery without being

1105
00:41:49,240 --> 00:41:51,566
a mis, but you can't own a bakery

1106
00:41:52,352 --> 00:41:55,213
without being a Mae. And his dream was

1107
00:41:55,213 --> 00:41:56,246
to come to America,

1108
00:41:56,882 --> 00:41:58,710
and that's exactly what he did in 19

1109
00:41:58,710 --> 00:42:00,880
60, landed in Chicago and

1110
00:42:01,349 --> 00:42:03,349
went to work for Lu bakery, which is

1111
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:04,869
still there in Chicago today,

1112
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:08,170
landmark with a bunch of other European

1113
00:42:09,759 --> 00:42:12,247
you know, pastry chefs and bakers, and

1114
00:42:13,577 --> 00:42:15,668
I came along in 62, and

1115
00:42:15,979 --> 00:42:17,894
know, grew up there in Chicago. In the

1116
00:42:17,894 --> 00:42:19,592
seventies, we moved to Colorado

1117
00:42:20,289 --> 00:42:22,364
to the Western slope of Colorado, a Gun

1118
00:42:22,364 --> 00:42:24,773
in Crest butte area and, you My parents

1119
00:42:24,773 --> 00:42:26,368
are still in that area. We got into

1120
00:42:26,368 --> 00:42:28,463
the hotel restaurant business, and

1121
00:42:29,957 --> 00:42:31,792
I did everything I could, Roger to not

1122
00:42:31,792 --> 00:42:33,467
get into this business. I thought I was

1123
00:42:33,467 --> 00:42:35,869
gonna be playing center field for the Chicago

1124
00:42:35,948 --> 00:42:37,958
Cubs. I had no doubt in my mind

1125
00:42:38,094 --> 00:42:39,684
that that's what I was gonna do. And,

1126
00:42:41,990 --> 00:42:43,672
center my dad, I I went to the

1127
00:42:43,751 --> 00:42:45,815
University of Oregon because we had relatives up

1128
00:42:45,815 --> 00:42:46,053
there.

1129
00:42:46,847 --> 00:42:47,164
And,

1130
00:42:48,434 --> 00:42:50,101
as... I couldn't get a job to save

1131
00:42:50,101 --> 00:42:50,498
my life.

1132
00:42:51,308 --> 00:42:53,778
Sup... My dad sent me to culinary school

1133
00:42:53,778 --> 00:42:55,451
after that. There was a small culinary school

1134
00:42:55,451 --> 00:42:56,509
in Portland, Oregon

1135
00:42:57,124 --> 00:42:59,434
and run by a bunch of European chefs

1136
00:42:59,434 --> 00:42:59,934
and

1137
00:43:00,804 --> 00:43:03,117
And that's where I found myself. Roger. That's

1138
00:43:03,117 --> 00:43:06,148
that's where I found. I fought it, but

1139
00:43:06,148 --> 00:43:08,700
the but the Dna was flowing through me.

1140
00:43:09,418 --> 00:43:10,237
I did not

1141
00:43:10,789 --> 00:43:12,940
kinda fought the pastry side of things. I

1142
00:43:12,940 --> 00:43:15,727
like the I like, the creative side of

1143
00:43:15,727 --> 00:43:16,046
things.

1144
00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,043
So I I pursued that, and I know,

1145
00:43:20,122 --> 00:43:22,427
and I did my my country club,

1146
00:43:23,222 --> 00:43:26,425
chef Stint in the Hilton hotel and Western

1147
00:43:26,561 --> 00:43:27,538
hotel. And

1148
00:43:27,913 --> 00:43:28,310
and

1149
00:43:29,184 --> 00:43:30,715
you you know, came back and ran the

1150
00:43:30,715 --> 00:43:32,571
family business as well. And

1151
00:43:32,948 --> 00:43:34,703
years later, III

1152
00:43:34,703 --> 00:43:36,479
had the opportunity to

1153
00:43:36,857 --> 00:43:38,532
to go back to Portland and teach.

1154
00:43:39,425 --> 00:43:41,265
And I thought how hard can that be?

1155
00:43:43,105 --> 00:43:44,704
Go there and teach people how to cook.

1156
00:43:44,864 --> 00:43:45,505
Right? But

1157
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,500
It was the most fulfilling and

1158
00:43:49,039 --> 00:43:49,539
hardest

1159
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,160
job that I've ever had. And, you know,

1160
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,400
and I had some luck. Right? I met,

1161
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,813
you know, Jack Larson, who's the, the founder

1162
00:43:56,813 --> 00:43:56,972
of,

1163
00:43:57,690 --> 00:44:00,244
And back then he was the the person

1164
00:44:00,244 --> 00:44:02,239
that brought Cord Blue to America, and I

1165
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:03,196
had the opportunity,

1166
00:44:04,088 --> 00:44:06,870
to start managing that relationship. And

1167
00:44:08,301 --> 00:44:10,209
and here I am. You know, you you

1168
00:44:10,209 --> 00:44:11,424
said earlier too

1169
00:44:12,132 --> 00:44:14,301
I I remember what the question was, but,

1170
00:44:15,072 --> 00:44:16,742
you know, how do you find yourself here?

1171
00:44:17,536 --> 00:44:18,570
I I have to throw

1172
00:44:19,539 --> 00:44:20,970
I have to throw a bone to the

1173
00:44:20,970 --> 00:44:23,936
great state of Colorado and the great creditor

1174
00:44:24,868 --> 00:44:26,141
that that a accredited...

1175
00:44:26,871 --> 00:44:29,258
Our school asset out of Washington Dc.

1176
00:44:29,974 --> 00:44:32,940
I gotta go back to 20 14 and

1177
00:44:33,489 --> 00:44:35,084
you know, crazy things were going on in

1178
00:44:35,084 --> 00:44:37,317
the world and, you know, cost of education

1179
00:44:37,317 --> 00:44:39,094
was going through the ceiling and

1180
00:44:39,630 --> 00:44:41,784
and, you know, we all got together and

1181
00:44:41,784 --> 00:44:42,842
realized that,

1182
00:44:43,313 --> 00:44:45,139
there must be a way that we can

1183
00:44:45,139 --> 00:44:47,282
take some of the food... The the cost

1184
00:44:47,282 --> 00:44:50,877
out of bringing students to culinary school, traveling

1185
00:44:50,933 --> 00:44:53,490
across the country, We didn't have online at

1186
00:44:53,490 --> 00:44:53,967
that time.

1187
00:44:55,001 --> 00:44:55,501
And,

1188
00:44:55,954 --> 00:44:58,339
you know, III went on a site visit

1189
00:44:58,339 --> 00:45:00,645
with our creditor to another school to just

1190
00:45:00,645 --> 00:45:01,281
help them out.

1191
00:45:02,015 --> 00:45:03,375
With a, a self study.

1192
00:45:04,255 --> 00:45:05,775
And I and I looked at the person

1193
00:45:05,934 --> 00:45:07,535
I was traveling with, and He said,

1194
00:45:08,175 --> 00:45:11,465
hey were thinking about taking culinary school online.

1195
00:45:12,102 --> 00:45:12,819
What do you think?

1196
00:45:13,695 --> 00:45:15,686
He said I think it's incredible. What can

1197
00:45:15,686 --> 00:45:16,562
we do to help?

1198
00:45:17,278 --> 00:45:18,814
2 years later, we launched

1199
00:45:19,443 --> 00:45:20,718
we launched to Sc,

1200
00:45:21,912 --> 00:45:24,483
programs online and gave access

1201
00:45:25,098 --> 00:45:27,429
to countless people who wouldn't be able to

1202
00:45:28,776 --> 00:45:31,566
pursue culinary education because they were restricted by

1203
00:45:31,566 --> 00:45:33,899
their, you know, their con. So

1204
00:45:34,515 --> 00:45:34,834
it's

1205
00:45:36,284 --> 00:45:38,521
you know, I'm I'm I'm, you know, Roger,

1206
00:45:38,681 --> 00:45:39,640
I did... It it's it's...

1207
00:45:40,359 --> 00:45:41,898
When I when I think about

1208
00:45:42,597 --> 00:45:46,449
how influenced I, was by my father, and

1209
00:45:46,449 --> 00:45:46,949
his

1210
00:45:47,409 --> 00:45:49,750
just attention to detail and his,

1211
00:45:50,130 --> 00:45:52,130
you know, his love for the craft, you

1212
00:45:52,130 --> 00:45:54,477
know, here we are in Gun in Colorado

1213
00:45:54,852 --> 00:45:56,228
outside of Gun in Colorado,

1214
00:45:56,762 --> 00:45:58,296
you know, a farming community,

1215
00:45:59,229 --> 00:46:01,457
resort community. They'd never seen...

1216
00:46:02,188 --> 00:46:06,432
Venus sc or black forest towards or apple

1217
00:46:06,490 --> 00:46:06,990
str

1218
00:46:07,765 --> 00:46:08,265
and

1219
00:46:09,214 --> 00:46:12,186
and he eased into it, and we,

1220
00:46:12,723 --> 00:46:14,637
you know, had a beautiful run in that

1221
00:46:14,637 --> 00:46:18,647
community with just introducing different types of food

1222
00:46:19,677 --> 00:46:21,588
to people who had never had access to

1223
00:46:21,588 --> 00:46:23,340
the... You know, who loved our food the

1224
00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:23,840
most

1225
00:46:24,456 --> 00:46:27,744
were were veterans. Veterans that had spent time

1226
00:46:28,374 --> 00:46:31,726
in Europe, eating European food, you know, braised

1227
00:46:31,726 --> 00:46:34,599
items, pork roast, Gu wash, things like that.

1228
00:46:34,998 --> 00:46:36,216
They're the ones that

1229
00:46:36,529 --> 00:46:38,367
you know, got emotional about coming to eat

1230
00:46:38,367 --> 00:46:39,426
with us. But

1231
00:46:40,364 --> 00:46:42,122
anyway, I can go on forever, but that's

1232
00:46:42,122 --> 00:46:43,981
that's a little bit about how I

1233
00:46:44,294 --> 00:46:45,972
I landed here at ed,

1234
00:46:46,931 --> 00:46:47,251
and

1235
00:46:47,810 --> 00:46:49,887
glad I did. Well, I'm glad you did

1236
00:46:49,887 --> 00:46:51,725
too, and I'm glad you've landed them farm

1237
00:46:51,725 --> 00:46:53,412
the table talk But now let's talk about

1238
00:46:53,412 --> 00:46:55,159
how their people could land there as well.

1239
00:46:55,318 --> 00:46:55,818
So

1240
00:46:56,588 --> 00:46:58,257
I... If they've been paying attention to us,

1241
00:46:58,416 --> 00:47:00,322
they can now pronounce es Sc.

1242
00:47:01,135 --> 00:47:03,534
All twice 2 for 2. You know. And

1243
00:47:03,695 --> 00:47:05,375
I know. And I was just Why not

1244
00:47:05,375 --> 00:47:08,429
go for it. And but I... But... Spelling

1245
00:47:08,429 --> 00:47:10,030
it. People aren't gonna be sure How many

1246
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:11,550
guess is and f that you have to

1247
00:47:11,550 --> 00:47:14,110
have. So why didn't you tell people how

1248
00:47:14,110 --> 00:47:16,762
they can get more information and people just

1249
00:47:16,762 --> 00:47:18,436
want to know what you're doing or maybe

1250
00:47:18,436 --> 00:47:20,190
somebody wants to get involved in the in

1251
00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:22,661
the in the program themselves, How do they

1252
00:47:22,661 --> 00:47:23,856
how do they find you. How does that

1253
00:47:23,856 --> 00:47:24,096
happen?

1254
00:47:24,746 --> 00:47:27,998
Yeah. That's... I I appreciate that very, very

1255
00:47:27,998 --> 00:47:28,157
much.

1256
00:47:30,061 --> 00:47:31,568
I did wanna mention real quick if I

1257
00:47:31,568 --> 00:47:33,811
could because. He's... Become a dear dear friend

1258
00:47:33,811 --> 00:47:34,869
of mine, but

1259
00:47:35,326 --> 00:47:37,719
Augustus I mentioned earlier, but his great grandson

1260
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,197
on Michelle

1261
00:47:39,314 --> 00:47:40,989
Is still with us. He's 80 years old,

1262
00:47:41,069 --> 00:47:42,345
he lives in the south of France,

1263
00:47:42,919 --> 00:47:44,137
He runs a museum

1264
00:47:44,674 --> 00:47:46,349
in the South of France, which was a

1265
00:47:46,349 --> 00:47:46,668
goose

1266
00:47:47,387 --> 00:47:48,184
Childhood home.

1267
00:47:48,902 --> 00:47:49,222
And

1268
00:47:50,753 --> 00:47:52,030
in in a in a month or 2,

1269
00:47:52,269 --> 00:47:54,663
I'll take a handful of people to the

1270
00:47:54,743 --> 00:47:55,860
South of France to

1271
00:47:56,738 --> 00:47:57,775
Es employees,

1272
00:47:58,669 --> 00:48:01,066
to visit the the museum. And he sits

1273
00:48:01,066 --> 00:48:02,983
on our board and I I just always

1274
00:48:02,983 --> 00:48:03,303
like to,

1275
00:48:04,661 --> 00:48:06,040
he was the number 1

1276
00:48:06,432 --> 00:48:07,727
the number 100

1277
00:48:08,338 --> 00:48:08,974
that I had

1278
00:48:10,007 --> 00:48:11,992
or earlier in the year. So is is

1279
00:48:11,992 --> 00:48:12,810
an amazing

1280
00:48:13,184 --> 00:48:15,586
amazing human being. But you can find us

1281
00:48:15,586 --> 00:48:21,168
at a sc dot EDU. That's ESC0FFIER.

1282
00:48:21,407 --> 00:48:23,640
You said it beautifully. It's sc dot EDU.

1283
00:48:24,133 --> 00:48:25,088
That's our website.

1284
00:48:25,804 --> 00:48:28,213
The name of our podcast is the ultimate

1285
00:48:28,349 --> 00:48:30,735
dish. You'll find that on the on the

1286
00:48:30,735 --> 00:48:31,928
on the website as well.

1287
00:48:32,819 --> 00:48:36,015
We we bring new students into our programs,

1288
00:48:36,175 --> 00:48:37,773
both on ground and online.

1289
00:48:38,412 --> 00:48:40,410
Every 6 weeks all year long.

1290
00:48:40,984 --> 00:48:41,963
We have programs

1291
00:48:42,660 --> 00:48:45,714
in culinary arts, pastry arts, plant based cuisine,

1292
00:48:46,492 --> 00:48:46,992
holistic,

1293
00:48:48,647 --> 00:48:49,445
nutrition and wellness,

1294
00:48:50,659 --> 00:48:50,900
entrepreneurship,

1295
00:48:51,699 --> 00:48:53,079
hospitality, restaurant management.

1296
00:48:54,019 --> 00:48:56,039
So there's a little bit of something for

1297
00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:56,260
everyone,

1298
00:48:57,074 --> 00:48:57,554
And

1299
00:48:58,275 --> 00:48:59,635
you know, it's a it's a it's a

1300
00:48:59,635 --> 00:49:01,554
fun place to be. We're on Instagram as

1301
00:49:01,554 --> 00:49:01,795
well.

1302
00:49:03,155 --> 00:49:05,554
So we're we're we're on everything social media.

1303
00:49:05,714 --> 00:49:07,641
So Not hard to find a coffee.

1304
00:49:08,834 --> 00:49:10,504
Well, I'll tell you what. I have a

1305
00:49:10,504 --> 00:49:12,811
feeling that there's some... Somebody listening to this

1306
00:49:12,811 --> 00:49:14,242
right now. It's gonna try to find you.

1307
00:49:15,053 --> 00:49:17,841
We we end up having a a the

1308
00:49:17,841 --> 00:49:19,138
a good audience

1309
00:49:19,514 --> 00:49:21,744
both around the country and some around the

1310
00:49:21,744 --> 00:49:23,975
world, mostly as you might guess in English,

1311
00:49:24,228 --> 00:49:27,481
speaking countries. Yeah. But but also, I'm glad

1312
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,782
I discovered your podcast as well. I've have

1313
00:49:29,782 --> 00:49:32,480
to listened to your conversation with Ferdinand met

1314
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,437
speaking and brought some memories and and to

1315
00:49:35,437 --> 00:49:36,232
next all podcast.

1316
00:49:37,027 --> 00:49:37,266
Congratulations.

1317
00:49:37,981 --> 00:49:40,049
Oh, thank you so much. This has been

1318
00:49:40,049 --> 00:49:42,219
so enjoyable, just a easy

1319
00:49:43,407 --> 00:49:44,204
conversation, and

1320
00:49:44,763 --> 00:49:46,938
I'm so glad that we we met, and

1321
00:49:47,076 --> 00:49:48,432
maybe we can figure out a way to

1322
00:49:48,432 --> 00:49:50,186
get you on to our podcast. That'd be

1323
00:49:50,186 --> 00:49:51,861
a fun chat as well, I'll be happy

1324
00:49:51,861 --> 00:49:53,705
to do that. And and actually, I wouldn't

1325
00:49:53,705 --> 00:49:55,214
rule out going to meet with you in

1326
00:49:55,214 --> 00:49:57,278
the south of France, but we'll have to

1327
00:49:57,278 --> 00:49:58,787
negotiate that. I figured you might say that.

1328
00:49:59,026 --> 00:49:59,184
Yeah.

1329
00:50:00,455 --> 00:50:00,510
And

1330
00:50:01,824 --> 00:50:04,771
Hey, Listen. This has been has been great,

1331
00:50:05,249 --> 00:50:08,515
and I appreciate it. So we'll come back.

1332
00:50:08,675 --> 00:50:09,392
We'll do this again.

1333
00:50:10,044 --> 00:50:11,556
Thanks for being on Farm to table talk.

1334
00:50:12,193 --> 00:50:13,785
Thank you so much, Roger. Take care.

1335
00:50:23,032 --> 00:50:25,180
You've been listening to farm to table talk

1336
00:50:25,180 --> 00:50:26,692
with your host, Roger Watson.