Welcome back to another episode of the External
project all things competitive in the world of
440000.
My name is Eric with the C Robert.
Hello. I'm a alive. And... We'll see if
we can get through this recording. I'm in
the middle of a
thunderstorm here. It's...
So they would say it's a dry heat
in Arizona What they don't tell you is
3 months of the year, it turns into
Miami.
And so right now we're in the middle
of a monsoon storm. So
Hopefully, this will hold through our recording, but,
the girl's is dead in middle of, by
end of
broadcasting. You know what happened. So...
Well, don't mind me. I'm just wrestling the
gator on the side. That were careful.
So, yeah. So big storm brewing here. We've
got our third full week of what our
people and now calling tenth edition or 10.5
at this point with a new
prior rules. So we've got a bev of
events to talk about, and we're also seeing
some interesting
new factions on the podium and a quite
a bit of diverse to when it comes
to
armies that are winning on a regular basis.
So
lots to talk about here. And, of course,
a little bit of low in in new
products to because it's it's still the hsa
Mar. So,
whenever if I'd to able looking at new
releases for this week and there was a
whopping Nec Monday box set and a book
I was like, cool. Okay.
Yeah. It's is a very, very quiet weekend.
So of 40 k, which I'm happy for
Sig getting their stuff.
The the new rats look awesome.
But
I very much
want to see new 4 k stuff.
Yeah. So,
of course,
Val rock there had a little video
going over What what could we expect for
new stuff, and I don't know. Some of
it, I kinda went This feels like a
recycled,
rumor, some of it felt like,
pure wish listing. I don't know. It was
just... All over the place themselves.
No knocking on Lord commander Val rec,
his article parked up on spiky bits.
And you.
Yeah. No. I'm not picking flat about it.
It's the rumor business is very hard. And
even the
the the best in the business go and
get a a good chunk right, and some...
It's your sources are are pretty off.
Not... Because they're not telling you the truth
is just they're trying to extrapolate
2 or 3 pieces to to put the
full picture together.
So, I mean, I remember there's was talk
of a
new
far and it turned up to be rain.
So this kinda weird stuff like that. So...
But
interesting enough together supposedly the... We heard this
rumor of a long time ago that's supposedly
an tenth edition that the
being protagonist we're gonna be blood angels, and
that was not the case. And now
that feels like maybe that was the case
and maybe got pushed back because there's still
a whole bunch and new blood angels get
to come out. And
given how well they're doing right now, the
med of the lasting thing we need is
the more players to get their hands on
blood angel features.
Yeah. It's
something that... Hey, by the way, a random
found his way out of the warp and
joined us. Awesome.
But yes.
The adventure of blood angels in this current
environment is by far the most
prolific.
Adventure I've ever seen
because, yeah,
Blood angels are just amazing.
They
in the 2
games that I watched today
against knights
and temp,
they had a
hundred 43 victory on the mites, and then
a
pretty moderate score against the temp
because it was a team practice day for
us. So
a 20 o and a 12 8 kind
of thing.
This is still pretty solid games. I mean,
12 it's a little close, but the, you
know,
Oh, however, you kinda feel larger your matchup
ups and get ready for... This is for
Champions cup.
Indeed, it is,
and
the the showing out of everyone that went.
Was solid. So
I leading the way didn't mess up match
up too terribly,
but
Now, Don got mad at me because I
put him into
Jason again when his neck runs.
No oh, well.
He na me for, like, 10 minutes and
then let it go.
Love you done.
I'm sure he can rebound from it.
D he did.
But, yeah, the the advent of team events
because there was a a little rumor that
I heard from a certain birdie.
That an old event might be turning into
a team of it.
Oh, interesting.
My she be a lot of... You know,
because in this weekend is the
the what used to be the Atc, the
American team Championship Dow, North American team championships.
Sales this weekend.
That's the the biggest team event here in
the states, but
the team events are definitely growing, and some
people say
more enjoyable way to play 40 k. So
might be the way to grow moving forward.
I'm not sure if 5 ban or 8
man teams are going to be the format
moving forward because both seem to be very
popular.
I mean, I enjoy it. It's the,
I think the the whole planning ahead of
time, whether do you bring this 5 good
lists or do you skew?
To certain match ups, or, you know, how
does that work? You know, what's your strategy
data? I think takes a lot more thought
than the list building being part of it,
Yeah. And that was something that we ran
into
today, our mix was... Yeah. I just gonna
1 unless you look
not
very
efficient,
but it it was still enough to go.
Yeah.
We can handle ourselves.
What else did you pick up from playing
the game without giving away too many secrets
of the team, but this in general about
prior and what's... What's different?
It firm up my belief that
taking more infantry
is better,
and will always be better.
Because you don't get stuck behind buildings like
my tanks did
or some of the land raiders that were
at the event.
That's funny. Because it I did a practice
game beginning a tenth and I was so
Forgot about the new rules. And I got
my greater demon stuck behind some buildings. So
I was like, oh, this was a bad.
I yet.
But yeah, for armies,
like, blood angels, gust custodian, thousand sons
The only downside for thousand sons is
obviously magnus can't go through walls.
He's got a truckload movement. You should be
able to fly over them pretty easily
or around preferably. Right.
Now were you guys playing with the the
latest update from Tacoma?
Not that I was aware of. Okay. So
apparently, it's buried in the Tacoma
players packet.
Is they've made a slight change to the
pivot rule.
Now they're saying specifically, this is strictly for
the tacoma event this is not a...
A ruling
that will come in in a Faq later
this week or anything like that. But basically,
if you are on a round base,
but it is,
oh, 32 millimeters or less than you do
still have to make a pivot move.
32 millimeters
or less?
Yeah.
So basically
I heard they actually got rid of that
too.
Yeah. Explain it to me because I'm having
trouble.
Okay. So the way it used to work
was... I all the oval bases have to
make pivot,
vehicles without basis, making pivot,
but Ga,
flyer or flying skimmer, like say a tan,
which is on a
I think it's on a jet bike base,
do not have to spend any
movement to pivot.
Now not only is it that the tantalizing
and raiders still have to make that because
they're on the larger
bases,
but even things like
dread not and stuff like our a hundred
millimeter basis. Oh, I'll have to make pivot.
Depends on the 2 inches to pivot.
Oh, okay. That makes sense now. And So
if you are not L r or space
marines,
then you have to.
Right. So the only thing I could think
of is like, is basically... Is it just
jet bikes and are immune to pivot rules
from the sounds of... Yeah. Man answer what
I'm thinking. Having had a chance to double
check over here. What was it again? Because
I couldn't remember if mounted
vehicles had to do pivot or not. But
pretty sure they were free of charge.
So...
And
Ray has not fully
emerge from the warp. Has his voice box.
So works. There he is.
You had to fight a Brim stone horror
for it.
Apparently a couple. Indeed.
But, yes. The... Yeah
In general, I would always recommend
sure bringing large vehicles is helpful because they
take up a lot of space.
But still try to think of yourself as
trying to move through walls as efficiently as
possible.
Because otherwise, you're gonna be stuck behind a
building and
your opponent's just gonna pin you there.
Indeed,
Guys using the G w
Train lamps?
Yes. We were playing on layout 2 today.
Excellent.
It's actually when of the ones we're considering
for our next tournament. So good to know.
Yeah. There was a
a few people that were grumpy about it,
but
met. They can deal with it.
Fair and enough. Alright. So we have a
bev of
events to talk about this week.
Robert, where do you wanna start.
Well,
you usually have trouble reading these ones, so
we're gonna go ahead and start there. We're
gonna go to Sheffield.
There we go.
So home with death Leopard as well as
a major super major tournament this weekend.
Who's in the tenants in this particular event?
Well, we will
we will say fifth place because
it sucks to be bubble out, but
you were that close. We have andy Kw
with Nec coming in fifth place overall in
the event.
Whereas the top 4 ended up being
mike Porter but blood angels,
ben Jones with dark angels,
Second place is Josh Roberts
with chaos space marines, you finally left neck
electrons behind.
Or am I thinking of someone else? No.
You're thinking the right. No. The guy invented
the
grief list is playing...
Because say second major tournament now in a
row. He's playing k face brands. At least
playing the...
Forgot what's called the course air
detachment the... Oh, yeah. The raiders. Yeah.
And
surprise surprise to everyone, first place is Johnny
Simmons with Ad.
So I guess they there's bit of change
gonna work out for them.
Yeah.
And
a couple of commercials, of manipulative,
rangers, Vanguard,
some doing writers,
some last can chickens,
preacher,
sky,
so the their jump pack guys, the Tara,
and then rough stalker trader. So very much
a,
we're going to be everywhere and you can't
catch all of this. Yeah.
Yeah. I have to reread the rules, apparently,
put the rest doctors in there
transport
Go, and there's a way they can,
like, take advantage of the new deployment zones
where they can be in your back on
term 1. So I was like, oh well,
they're they're almost as bad as the old
jeans dealer double move. That's how fast there.
Oh, don't tell me about that. I I
haven't encountered that 42 inch charged for.
That was brutal. I was like, what that
heck is this? He literally tagged me. If
I'm diagonally across the table. I was like,
Okay. We'll take it. So I luckily left
all the rest of his army behind, so
I was able to
pop up the first wave, but I was
like, what the heck. I thought I was
safe.
So, yeah. I we curious to see have
3 how that actually works. But apparently that's
what the rust doctors do.
And then all the new guns are just
not much more effective now. So
Yep.
Mike... Hi. I mentioned by Porter playing blood
angels Har.
Transitioned from a, from Har winds to flooding
and so basically, a
infantry based close combat army that enormous movement
rules
to a
infantry based mailing unit
ignore movement rules. Okay.
Yeah.
The The trend I am seeing so far
for blood angels
is
you will have a minimum
of 20 models that moved 12 inches.
Yeah. And they all come back. And like
I said, there's rumors at our new sang
guard but that it's coming out. It's like,
oh, great.
Hey, man. I'll let him have it. We
need bigger thing our. Are gonna be shot
at sooner. I just realized I have an
army that could blood angels I can sell.
Hey. If they anybody's interest hit me up.
Ray. Don't do it.
Nope.
I'm good.
But, yes, that is the Sheffield super major.
And I'm assuming Johnny is actually the winner
because I know the super majors that we've
talked about before, like Manchester and stuff.
They... Don't... They're not officially over as of
our recording,
but it is pretty...
Easy to read the writing on the wall
because
Johnny and Josh
don't have the same amount of games played.
Makes sense to me. Alright. We on to
a next event.
Well, we're gonna
I'm going to assume
this is either in Canada or California.
What is TGX?
It's in cow. It's in Canada.
Yeah. I was I was like. Owen. I
can't pronounce town. It's like mer.
Missus Mississauga?
This Mississauga.
Please. Got it. Okay.
Pronounce is the name and knows the geography
I for 2. Yeah. This is like 1
of the oldest running tournaments in Canada. This
is like.
Unbelievable, And I can already spoiler alert
scar I didn't win this because he's at
the team Canada practice this weekend. So
even he joking said, oh, somebody else went
at this year.
So, yeah, the top 5 for
here rounded out to be
Adrian
Jim with black temp,
then Daniel
Corn
in fourth place, the dark angels.
The third place is Sam
Pop
with blood angels.
Second place is John Henry with Orcs.
And first place is
Nick J yellow
with
astra
Wow.
Alright.
I thought the blending were gonna win this
1 when I listening to the pre game
about this event. Interesting. Okay. Astra
takes it.
Yep. So
Leon ent
command sq or tank commander.
He has no guards.
Like, no safeguards guards met at all?
May take silence or all tanks or what's
you? Chime. Kind So 4 Chime,
rough writers, rough writers, Bo Bo, Bo.
Even russ is Oc Au.
Wow. Yeah. Yeah. He brought Cy and
and then rep here leaves your destroy battery.
Like,
alright. So just shoved everything in the Chime.
Got it.
Wow.
You know, I I've heard the... The science
are becoming very popular.
Yeah. Because of the they're relatively cheap, they
naturally deep strike themselves.
And with the
amount of actions that are going on in
the game nowadays.
Fix missions aren't gonna cut it.
Unless you do, like, action monkey based ones.
Can you imagine as if they do a
season where there's no fixed,
then I will cry because my win rate
with Gust custodial
plummet,
I'm sure you'll get an imperial agent that
will serve as an action extra monkey.
Yeah. A call Assassin for a hundred points.
Some sort of voice been arms,
nonsense. It's got, like, 3 up in vulnerable
and only, like, 80 points for 5.
Now.
I'm I'm fine with
being able to...
Get 6 point... Well, 8 points on cleanse
and max out assassinate head start angels. I'm
just like, yeah.
I'll take it.
But, yes, Congratulations to the top contenders of
TGX.
Sk will take back the winning titles eventually.
Yeah. What the sounds of it.
Alright. We've leave the frozen north where we
go into next. Alright. Now I actually been
to this place. It's Denver, Colorado.
I know where this place is.
Now this this event would rather you not
talk about it, but it's Denver 40 k
Fight club.
And we're gonna talk about fight club.
Yeah. Because they're cool people.
So the top 5 and then rounded out
to be... Adrian Lopez with Ad and fifth.
Brandon Rod with blood angels and fourth.
Robert Mo with Astra,
Yes. I have a chance to keep us
custodian because he's not playing them.
Yes breaking news here folks.
And then second place, we have David Ad
with... Demons and in first place is colin
k with sisters.
Yeah. We. It's 1 if they were gonna
show up today. Okay. Interesting. I was more
surprised that demons came in second. Those... I
know there... A lot of people saying they're
strong, and I think they were that strong.
So...
I I will laugh at Collins list.
It is titled 1234I
can't use my posters anymore.
So it does very much look like it's
the classic sister's style of...
Ms u
and really
high value trading units.
Especially the paragon War suits those things will
wreck.
Yeah, especially with warren involved. Oh my god.
Yeah. She's in there.
It's the whole reason to put the void
Rape and bomber back at the list is
making
do damage against. And everything else my army
really struggles against them.
Now, that's actually take up
pondering at this paragon demon roster here
because
it is car brand,
Celeste. So the
demon
human
couple
first Lan nash,
then a blood master bullet grand Why a
lord of change.
Some blood layers, some mir,
some flavors,
2 minimum units blood crusher,
unit of flush sounds and a unit of
scream.
No not what I was expecting.
Clearly, it's a
Our monsters are gonna do all the heavy
lifting, and we're gonna drop off the little
guys on the way.
Yeah. But I was surprised he's spread out
across all 4. I figured he's was just
gonna pick 2 marks and then just
double up on everything.
Yeah. As we've seen
people do before. But I can see this
making sense because of the misunderstanding for me
of
that I guess a missed a clarification that
the Aura
that comes off of the greater demons is
specifically said to be the shadow
for their demons.
So they are always in their shadow. So,
yes, the gray and clean 1 is really,
really hard to move.
Right.
As for phil pains are amazing thing,
unless they're on a t 12 model.
Yeah. That's how I see, and then I
let's see with.
Sound like you took that many if at
all any deep. I didn't hear that.
No. He had...
It blood letters, blood crusher, streamers, ne. So
he had
no S care, no s units, besides celeste.
Weird.
It's trying to figure what the... That he's
doing it. Mean, obviously, he did a great
job. So I'm just gonna figure out would
have made more sense to drop
that and put in
use the points on doubling up on the
blood blood crusher. So you have 2 units
to 6.
Well, at that point, it... I know why
he would keep them at small units
because when you come in from the shadow,
you have to come in wholly within 6
of the greater demon. So. And blood pressure
are huge. Yeah. They are huge. They they
seem they've grown because I have I half
my old 1,
and it's a 40 millimeter base.
Yeah. So
trying to fit that many blood crusher next
to a blow through or star brand. Like
no. No. You're right. You're right.
So
interesting.
Because the other thought I had was
kinda come up with a list where I
could you have, like, a...
Keep her secrets. You start dropping down all
the farm equipment. That's Lan have those chariot.
Mh. They are the
impact that cause mortals.
But now you bring up a good point.
Can you wholly put that within 6 inches
of the base. I don't know if you
can't.
No. Now. There is no way you are
fitting
1 of those trees within 6 inches of
a keeper. I can really do that.
So
that's too bad.
But, yeah, it's...
This is, again, reinforcing what I firmly believe
that
units that
can
go into actions where
you have dedicated
bop units
is gonna be how you win an event
nowadays.
Because, obviously, sisters is really good at it.
Demons is really good at it, although, they're
more fragile than sisters are.
And then guard,
action monkeys for days.
But 3, you not seeing any of the
indirect fire anymore from guard. It seems to
be all
tanks. And I said a lot of transports.
A lot of boxes. So...
Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's because they took
away the overwatch for indirect fire.
Yeah. Thankfully.
But this is
a sign
of thousand sons are probably not as...
Prevalent
this weekend
as most people think they would have been,
because thousands cents are kind of a sleeper
army just because sure the cabal stuff got
hit.
But they still have a lot of really
strong tricks,
Yeah. Absolutely.
And antoinette army, like, as an opponent.
Not really sure how, okay. I know he
gets cabal points up to the... But I'm,
like what the way I target other than
magnus to to reduce deep,
claw points.
Because
in,
even with the new changes, what it used
to be, they took away your armor save.
Now it's like, oh, it improves the Ap,
but I was, like, improves the Ap by
2 or something like that.
So... Yeah which basically takes for your arm
safe anyway. Right. So I was like, oh,
that's that's not nice. So...
Yeah.
And those are those are
a few events that we are gonna be
able to cover this week because there was
a lot of them. Yeah.
I think it kinda of 9 altogether, and
it was using an
of it.
Cover
How dare they copy our name. I'm kidding.
They're cool.
But, yeah. The
So now that raise here, he he can
also share the little birdie
of the rumor.
I heard today.
Okay.
The presumption is that Soc cal open,
is going to be turned into an 8
man team of event.
Really?
There is no
confirming and or denying
this rumor? Of course.
But that's kind of a big deal because
Soc cal
last year was a singles event.
1 by Or, I believe.
And now,
It's not just gonna be what wins the
event it's? Who wins the event because you're
gonna have 8 peoples.
I'm curious what's caught pushing them to make
the change because
frontline gaming did do a team events.
A few years ago, and they were very
quick to point out that they almost lost
their shirt on that event.
Yeah. That was the las Vegas team tournament.
And
I think it's because of the fact that
Soc cal is
such a prevalent
event for them. It's been a long running
1, so everyone knows where it is.
And I'm pretty sure the ticket prices are
going to reflect that of an 8 man
teen tournament.
I mean, I'm excited because to be, you
know, having a large team event close by.
It's kinda nice. So I was not particularly
thrilled about traveling to
was a chattanooga new tennessee this weekend for
Atc, but
hurts a great event, but it's... Yeah. The
commute is pretty rough.
So I'm kinda not... That part I'm pretty
excited about, but it's...
We're curious to see as the team circuit
kinda keep taking shape where else the other
vents will show up.
Mh.
And
I I can say from...
Being a team captain for
the last couple of
events I've gone to for Teams.
It is actually a bunch of fun to
sit there and try to
theory craft pairing in a
most efficient
way to... Alright. I need a
I need a 28 o here. I need
a close game here.
This game is the wild card. I don't
know what's gonna happen over there.
It's...
It's refreshing because you're not saying they're going.
Alright. This is the third time I've played
to this army this event.
Mh. I know exactly how I'm going to
win or I know. Him I'm exactly how
I'm going to lose.
Like I guess on, how you pair people
in, you keep plenty of your players might
run into that scenario.
Hey, hey. It's not my fault that...
There's a psychic kick arm. There's gray nights
or thousand zones or whatever. And I decide
to put temp into that because they can
have a 4 up against it. Like... Yeah.
True.
So I forgot remember, I now I think
it was W t was ruling on this
that they don't allow for coaches, any, like,
pairing software that you have to still do
it by hand.
Oh, yeah. It is still on my end.
K.
So
between games 1 and game 2 today. Her
little sc, I had to put on my
thinking cap and think real real hard about
what I wanted to go where.
And
Although we were...
Down a man, so it was
already a kind of
kind of a wash,
But the opposing team brought 2 space brewing
list. So obviously, they messed up to.
Whoops.
Somebody wasn't being attention to read the pocket.
Yeah. Now this was very much a a
rapidly planned kind of thing, so I don't
blame them for going oops.
So I think Arizona sending 3 teams.
Yeah. It'd be making saves,
the mid table mercenaries
and Club. Okay.
And
out of the 3 of us,
Making saves
had the most consistent scores out of the
sc today
and then the
little 5 man,
well, 5 or 6 man, little round Robin
thing we did the other weekend.
Mh.
But Club has
the highest...
Potential for just blowing people off the table.
Because the games against making saves today were
close.
The games that we had against Sm the
other weekend were not close at all.
Is that a pairing issue or just really
issue or
it was definitely a pairing issue.
I'm glad you identified it now. Grab time
to practice.
But, yeah, I think this is a perfect
excuse for, like, ray, Eric.
So called the team event, you're riding along
with us, no ifs stands or butts, unless
you actually can't go. Yeah. That's interested now.
I'm I'm intrigued. So they'll be
Man, I'm not a... What time what time
many years is it again for that 1?
You're
anywhere from, like,
August to October?
Yeah. Say it's like it's early falls. I
remember right.
Okay.
Seems doable.
Yep. It's just a drive over there.
Yeah. Because this was originally I wanted to
get to 1 of the G w events
to get a gold ticket, and
I don't see that when... That window just
be closing pretty quick right now. So...
There's an event
in fall,
you can try. Yeah.
Kinda a local even.
Yeah. That is a good point.
The
the
later half of the year,
local event of the Spike club open
has been
officially granted. I believe a single golden ticket.
I believe so.
So... Yeah. Whoever
whoever...
When the event gets to go to
the finals out in at Atlanta. Yep. The
WCW.
Yeah.
Still mad they copied me.
So
with prying kind of health
chugging along so far.
I know Too haven't had a chance to
practice as much as I have recently.
But are you guys thinking about
kind of reform your Army a little bit
to
be ready for more buildings and for
more places to hide?
My army was already kinda built that way.
So no.
A matter of fact, there's a couple things
that I'm kinda just doubling down. And now
it's just a matter of
executing. I think,
kinda touched on it earlier, I may as
actually look at
thick secondary the first time, a long time.
And
just for familiarity or just to free of
some,
hard drive space in the brain the concentrate
on the game state. So.
Yeah. I got about 1 or 2 list
I'm going over,
giving a good shot on and seeing how
it works.
And then going from there.
Yeah. I've got 4 games in, oh with
Brian Nexus with the same list.
The the only thing I'll change. I think
I whopping...
I swapped 1 thing out, and I've forgot
It took out, but
freed up, I end up putting in a
few Kronos
as...
Because 1 of the things I'm noticing is
a lot more missions that are
scoring at the end of my opponent's turn,
So I'm just trying to get a little
more durability into the list for those type
of actions.
Yeah. That's something that I can
absolutely attest to
with my
custodian doing any kind of
action based secondary.
I need to either be hiding
or have killed everything in that corner of
the table.
K
in order to do anything
without getting attacked.
Yeah. I'm not real good. At standing on
objectives and lasting my points turn. It's so
I'm just gonna get picked up. So
kind of in the same boat, either I'm
gonna wipe them out. So if they're attacking
my action monkey. It's a bad choice or
got an actual extra monkey that I can
actually take a hit. So...
Yeah.
The,
I think the
Best ones for
your Army, Eric are, like, containment because you
can just zoom along the side of the
table. Mh.
And
given you throw away a unit of man,
Engage in all fronts. Like, I know containment
isn't a fixed objective.
Try to grab containment fixed, though.
It.
No. No. It's not. It's 1 of the
few that is not. You would have to
go with the classic of engagement all fronts
and by hand behind Enemy lines.
Yeah. I'm trying to think the
established locust, I think it's a fixed 1.
I was looking at that 1.
Yeah. That's the replacement for deployed tele homer.
Yeah.
Because that way, I can take advantage of,
strategic reserves is coming in close to the
sidelines and then being in range. So...
And
I kind of imagine for you Ray, you
have the same problem I do where...
You're kinda stuck with your average movement.
So you don't get to venture out very
far.
And the thunderstorms says, hi.
Yeah. You and I both run
more elite solid list just because points.
Yeah.
That is a
natural downside.
I'm
I'm honestly thinking about taking out my cl.
Yeah. He talked about that earlier the they,
you know, just
getting them to move on the table was
a bit of a struggle.
Yeah. I got it.
To gotta go anywhere. So I'm might as
well bring 10 extra custodian guard
so
navigate the board elsewhere.
I could see it. You,
it's funny it's value taking tanks out. I
was debating whether keep
same amount of dark lance in or just
double down on haywire
because
I don't know. I felt the dark lance
are they're they're good when they hit, but
then when they they they fail. Oh my
god. It's just a a colossal with. So
I will admit your dark clients is still
scare the but jesus out of me,
because
anything
2 or higher is a
erased custodian.
So Yeah. I'm killing 1 good.
But, yeah. Yeah.
And I think I'm just little...
Overthinking my last matchup, Against to t ralph
is like, oh,
there's
a lot of bowls around here and a
lot of film pain. Okay.
And I want ask
you guys how annoying is it that the
average Ap of a weapon is now 2
and the average damage is too.
How annoying is that?
It's not surprising really.
Whether they're surprising or not, how it annoying
is it.
Look considering all my models are pretty much
1 wound and
have creepy paper for for armor. I'm like,
whatever, You know, you guys paid extra points
for a weapon that's as effective of me
as
a spit football. So I'm good.
Then I'm just being a
salty
old gru.
Yeah.
And for me, I'm like, most of my
guns are AP0. So it's just like, okay.
I just...
Do I have to keep looking at volume
of fire or that's 1 of the reason
why I've been making some
changes to give them buff for for the
attacking, you know, it's anti Country 3 is
great, especially in my matchup against a Europe
because it's
T6T7I
just don't care. I'm willing on threes. So...
Mh.
But, yeah. Let's let's still get your to
a farmer.
I I do definitely, like, brian, though. It's...
It doesn't feel
dull
like, how the Leviathan was stirring to feel
because the Leviathan was...
Yeah. We're gonna do the same exact thing
over and over and over again and the
G w are,
kind of take come.
Now
and Par p the train layouts and the
deployments
allow for
some slightly more creative
adventures for deployment and such.
Yeah. It's a little more flexible. I think
the hard part
it's gonna use the changes because then we
kinda built everything around the built old payout
out. So...
But
overall, I think... The 1 I haven't tried
yet is
thing it's layout 8
where they got 4 of the small, 6
by 4 and ruins in the middle.
Mh.
That I have a feeling could be
a very definitely a game changer in terms
of what how your army plays.
Yeah. I'll have to take a look at
that 1 myself because if it's...
If it is the legitimate thunder dome,
I'm all for it.
Yeah. Got a fair.
Oh, come on. You don't wanna come party
with the custodian in the middle of the
table?
It's not the parting with them in the
middle. Just after we party that added all
the ones in the outside go. Okay. Kill
them now.
Oh, come on. We're just pre gaming. Man's
fine.
So
this is a tangent question
because my Ad is acting up.
I know I pest you, Eric about such
and such ghostly ghostly bone dad things of
Mc.
Ray?
If you were to dare touch a sig.
What would you play?
So I actually have 1 army for major
Sigma mar. I don't really play the game,
but I do have 1 army from there.
It's the storm cast hurdles.
Then technically, you don't have an Rm anymore
because they redid the line just like space
marines.
They only got rid of some stuff. That
didn't actually get rid of everything.
I just wanted to poke phone at uri.
Yeah. They were there quite the wholesale change
on that army. So...
Well, to be fair, they
of all the armies in Asia Sigma,
the storm cuts terminals had the strangest
portions.
And
what we're seeing is them
bringing those proportions
in line,
I never looked up back closely.
So
the original storm has journals,
essentially had, like, the build of a terminator.
There was a while. People were actually using
storm cast models
to build
assault terminator.
Well, the newer ones,
not just the ones that are coming out
or came out this weekend, but also some
of the ones that have come out in
the past
this past edition.
Were actually built
to the more proportion. So more like a
regular human being,
So that's what we're saying. And
some nice little improvements like,
there was a unit where they were...
Above that they didn't have the, you know,
the little
stands
the the flight stands.
Instead, they were above they were held above
their base by
basically ribbons.
They've they've swapped those out for tactical rocks,
which are a little bit more stable.
Interesting. Okay.
Accusation is true. Okay.
For
But, yes.
Robert's random tangent is over. I have nothing
else to ask about this. Yeah. Strange strange
game that is of Sigma.
I mean people would definitely have lots of
positives to say about the a new addition.
For some other the reason, I guess Game
tide is not selling well, but we'll see
what... As the game kind, I think the
a lot of that just just price. Yeah.
But no. It looks like... Hosted like a
fun game. There's...
Reactive movements and shooting. Sound like a really
cool feature. So
we'll see. Let's see what they have the
popularity. So that
Yep. But for now,
40 k all the way.
Mh.
So anything else to add before we wrap
things up upward tonight?
I don't know.
Where you got anything?
I think that's it for right now. So...
Yeah. No. I think for a lot of
stuff talk about today. Yeah. Surprisingly. So keep
our, you know, extension little light on the
preview, so keep my fingers crossed. That's something
new we
let me return the tide from all things
Sig more back to 40 k. Be kinda
nice.
But until then, my name's Eric.
I'm Robert.
I'm, Raymond. And thank you for listening thing
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