1 00:00:00,436 --> 00:00:02,339 I have a confession to make. And to 2 00:00:02,339 --> 00:00:03,609 be honest this a little bit embarrassing. 3 00:00:04,084 --> 00:00:04,481 You see, 4 00:00:05,195 --> 00:00:07,337 I am not all that great with pistols. 5 00:00:08,304 --> 00:00:10,302 I have to say I'm a bad pistol 6 00:00:10,302 --> 00:00:10,622 shooter, 7 00:00:11,341 --> 00:00:13,818 but it definitely lags behind my other skills, 8 00:00:14,217 --> 00:00:16,076 and as much as I enjoy a 9 00:00:16,549 --> 00:00:19,743 and shooting overall. My focus always hands back 10 00:00:19,743 --> 00:00:20,461 towards rifles. 11 00:00:21,180 --> 00:00:23,575 This was never more apparent to me than 12 00:00:23,575 --> 00:00:25,651 my first review assignment writing for a print 13 00:00:25,651 --> 00:00:26,050 magazine. 14 00:00:26,703 --> 00:00:28,298 But before I get to that, welcome to 15 00:00:28,298 --> 00:00:30,291 the everyday Marks that podcast podcasts where it's 16 00:00:30,291 --> 00:00:32,683 all about tactical skills for living a more, 17 00:00:33,321 --> 00:00:35,075 adventurous life I'm your host, Matt Robertson, 18 00:00:35,806 --> 00:00:37,715 Website is everybody marks dot c, they're verified 19 00:00:37,715 --> 00:00:40,577 today show notes, our community of Marks, Youtube 20 00:00:40,577 --> 00:00:43,201 channel, other podcast episodes, and all of that 21 00:00:43,201 --> 00:00:45,046 go stuff come on by hit that green 22 00:00:45,046 --> 00:00:45,523 subscribe button. 23 00:00:46,319 --> 00:00:47,592 I look forward to talking to you there. 24 00:00:48,706 --> 00:00:50,855 Back to the story. So several years ago, 25 00:00:51,332 --> 00:00:52,230 I was approached 26 00:00:52,938 --> 00:00:56,272 by American Rifle magazine to become me a 27 00:00:56,272 --> 00:00:58,337 regular writer. And I still do it today. 28 00:00:58,495 --> 00:01:00,083 So if you're a subscriber to that magazine 29 00:01:00,083 --> 00:01:02,402 via, your Nra membership, then you might see 30 00:01:02,402 --> 00:01:03,833 my articles in there from time to time. 31 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:07,095 My very first assignment was a review of 32 00:01:07,095 --> 00:01:08,288 a 19 11 pistol. 33 00:01:09,257 --> 00:01:11,405 In particular, it was an Iv Johnson Eagle 34 00:01:11,485 --> 00:01:13,951 L r special. Now what are the writing 35 00:01:13,951 --> 00:01:16,513 guidelines for the magazine was it a 5 36 00:01:16,513 --> 00:01:18,588 inch pistol had to be shot 4 groups 37 00:01:18,588 --> 00:01:19,786 at 25 yards. 38 00:01:20,664 --> 00:01:22,739 Without going into details, let's just say that 39 00:01:22,819 --> 00:01:24,256 I had 1 hell of a time, 40 00:01:24,988 --> 00:01:26,282 we're trying to group 41 00:01:26,893 --> 00:01:29,829 and pistol sites at 25 yards. It was 42 00:01:29,829 --> 00:01:32,131 such a challenge for me that I tended 43 00:01:32,131 --> 00:01:34,295 to client reviews for pistols unless I come 44 00:01:34,295 --> 00:01:36,046 out and dots to them. And even then, 45 00:01:36,206 --> 00:01:37,479 it's just... I'm just not that stable of 46 00:01:37,479 --> 00:01:39,549 the pistol. Nobody has pistols are more more 47 00:01:39,549 --> 00:01:39,868 difficult. 48 00:01:41,078 --> 00:01:42,992 And I felt really bad about this because, 49 00:01:43,151 --> 00:01:44,985 you know, there's this reputation everybody who writes 50 00:01:44,985 --> 00:01:45,862 for gun magazines. 51 00:01:46,261 --> 00:01:47,936 You know, they can put put these amazing 52 00:01:47,936 --> 00:01:49,291 groups on paper, and I felt a lot 53 00:01:49,291 --> 00:01:51,703 of pressure to to execute this perfectly, 54 00:01:52,182 --> 00:01:54,180 and it's always bothering me ever since that 55 00:01:54,180 --> 00:01:55,778 that I had such a hard time with 56 00:01:55,778 --> 00:01:58,016 that. And I've gotten slightly better and technique 57 00:01:58,016 --> 00:01:59,295 but Still not where I feel like, It 58 00:01:59,295 --> 00:01:59,535 could be. 59 00:02:00,665 --> 00:02:02,894 Fast forward a little bit. In January 20 60 00:02:02,894 --> 00:02:03,292 22, 61 00:02:03,849 --> 00:02:05,283 I thought I was gonna start addressing this. 62 00:02:05,521 --> 00:02:07,512 I had a great interview with Josh, who 63 00:02:07,512 --> 00:02:07,965 is a 64 00:02:08,481 --> 00:02:10,943 Usps Grand master and then instructor over at 65 00:02:11,023 --> 00:02:12,532 Green Ops training who's local for me. 66 00:02:13,247 --> 00:02:14,938 And I don't think I made a podcast 67 00:02:14,995 --> 00:02:16,424 out of that interview by the way, but 68 00:02:16,424 --> 00:02:18,029 it is on the Youtube channel. She's check 69 00:02:18,029 --> 00:02:18,349 it out. 70 00:02:19,148 --> 00:02:20,507 And I had in my mind that this 71 00:02:20,507 --> 00:02:23,703 was my time to become a pistol, a 72 00:02:23,703 --> 00:02:26,420 pistol gun fighter. While that ended up not 73 00:02:26,420 --> 00:02:29,166 happening. Life and interest just kind of went 74 00:02:29,383 --> 00:02:29,781 elsewhere. 75 00:02:31,693 --> 00:02:33,764 Well, I wanna address it again, and this 76 00:02:33,764 --> 00:02:35,969 comes back to the conversation we've recently had 77 00:02:36,248 --> 00:02:39,269 about the Marks training zones. Now, if you 78 00:02:39,269 --> 00:02:41,494 remember, I'd dubbed the space between 0 and 79 00:02:41,494 --> 00:02:43,402 50 yards as the critical zone. 80 00:02:44,054 --> 00:02:46,291 And the grand scheme of capability, it is 81 00:02:46,291 --> 00:02:49,668 this space. That a marks must be absolutely 82 00:02:49,727 --> 00:02:52,613 capable. It is by far the zone where 83 00:02:52,613 --> 00:02:54,681 we are most likely to engage a threat 84 00:02:54,681 --> 00:02:57,168 in the real world, especially as a civilian 85 00:02:57,304 --> 00:02:59,610 and that can include home defense, concealed carry 86 00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:00,723 or even scenario acts. 87 00:03:02,011 --> 00:03:03,149 Now you can use 88 00:03:03,843 --> 00:03:05,675 a lot of tools for this 0 to 89 00:03:05,675 --> 00:03:08,383 50 zone. Rifles and carb beans are an 90 00:03:08,383 --> 00:03:09,896 obvious choice. A fantastic choice. 91 00:03:10,468 --> 00:03:11,662 And probably my preference. 92 00:03:12,776 --> 00:03:15,482 Shotgun guns also stand out is particularly good 93 00:03:15,482 --> 00:03:17,073 in the front half of that 0 to 94 00:03:17,073 --> 00:03:17,312 50. 95 00:03:19,395 --> 00:03:21,304 And this whole training zone was a big 96 00:03:21,304 --> 00:03:23,634 driver in me going down the Pcc in 97 00:03:23,691 --> 00:03:24,486 submachine gun format. 98 00:03:25,620 --> 00:03:28,039 The humble handgun just kind of seemed 99 00:03:28,340 --> 00:03:29,699 mundane in comparison. 100 00:03:31,060 --> 00:03:32,580 But I have to be honest with myself, 101 00:03:33,074 --> 00:03:35,305 that this line of thinking that pistols are 102 00:03:35,305 --> 00:03:36,841 mundane is my own bias 103 00:03:37,298 --> 00:03:38,891 because I'm not that great with them. 104 00:03:40,007 --> 00:03:40,406 In fact, 105 00:03:41,058 --> 00:03:42,493 When I think about it and dig into 106 00:03:42,493 --> 00:03:45,442 it, pistols might even be more interesting than 107 00:03:45,442 --> 00:03:45,761 rifles. 108 00:03:46,797 --> 00:03:49,362 So let's make the case for handgun Now 109 00:03:49,362 --> 00:03:52,218 realize this is every bit a justification to 110 00:03:52,218 --> 00:03:53,725 myself as it might be for you. So 111 00:03:53,725 --> 00:03:55,471 bear with me. You may very well already 112 00:03:55,471 --> 00:03:57,629 be all in on the handgun train. And 113 00:03:57,629 --> 00:03:59,862 you are a pistol expert for that. Congratulations. 114 00:04:01,456 --> 00:04:03,211 But I'm not, and I need to justify 115 00:04:03,211 --> 00:04:05,364 why I have to do it. So for 116 00:04:05,364 --> 00:04:06,321 at least a year, 117 00:04:06,894 --> 00:04:07,453 or more, 118 00:04:08,013 --> 00:04:10,489 I've been planning and piling over a semi 119 00:04:10,489 --> 00:04:10,989 custom 120 00:04:11,368 --> 00:04:13,765 precision bolt action chamber in 223. 121 00:04:14,337 --> 00:04:16,008 Now the goal of this project is a 122 00:04:16,008 --> 00:04:18,474 rifle that works well enough out to 600 123 00:04:18,474 --> 00:04:20,326 yards that I could use it for both 124 00:04:20,462 --> 00:04:22,463 competition, as well as a trainer for my 125 00:04:22,463 --> 00:04:25,558 larger caliber. 223 is a lot cheaper to 126 00:04:25,558 --> 00:04:28,019 shoot than 30 caliber or 6 5. 127 00:04:28,829 --> 00:04:31,169 And the 2 through 223 bolt gun 128 00:04:32,349 --> 00:04:33,949 just has a huge fun factor to it, 129 00:04:34,110 --> 00:04:36,189 a lot light shooting in 22 through through 130 00:04:36,189 --> 00:04:37,389 lighter or heavy rifles. 131 00:04:39,084 --> 00:04:39,584 However, 132 00:04:40,444 --> 00:04:41,725 1 of the things that held me back 133 00:04:41,725 --> 00:04:44,045 from doing this aside from just the investment 134 00:04:44,045 --> 00:04:44,925 and the cost to do it. 135 00:04:45,659 --> 00:04:47,997 Is kind of my current range circumstances. 136 00:04:48,695 --> 00:04:51,012 The reality is all of my local ranges 137 00:04:51,012 --> 00:04:53,342 only go out to about 50 yards. They're 138 00:04:53,342 --> 00:04:55,486 all indoors with a single lane for paper 139 00:04:55,486 --> 00:04:55,804 targets. 140 00:04:56,678 --> 00:04:58,822 If I want to do anything longer than 141 00:04:58,822 --> 00:05:01,069 that, say 300 yards with steel 142 00:05:01,459 --> 00:05:02,895 then it's a trip out to West Virginia, 143 00:05:03,055 --> 00:05:04,731 and it's about a 90 minute drive in 144 00:05:04,731 --> 00:05:07,923 each direction, which means I have to plan 145 00:05:07,923 --> 00:05:10,169 for an entire day to. Half day of 146 00:05:10,169 --> 00:05:11,682 driving and shooting to make it worth it. 147 00:05:12,079 --> 00:05:14,490 Now doing that with any kind of regular 148 00:05:14,706 --> 00:05:16,298 is a difficult ask for my family. 149 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:18,780 So I have to be honest. And a 150 00:05:18,780 --> 00:05:20,452 bit as much as I would love to 151 00:05:20,452 --> 00:05:20,952 enjoy 152 00:05:21,407 --> 00:05:24,511 a 3000 dollar bolt action semi custom rifle, 153 00:05:25,083 --> 00:05:26,987 it's mostly just gonna eat up space in 154 00:05:26,987 --> 00:05:28,811 my safe and not get a lot of 155 00:05:28,811 --> 00:05:28,970 use. 156 00:05:30,001 --> 00:05:31,350 So my circumstances, though, 157 00:05:32,159 --> 00:05:34,233 is difficult as they may be for shooting 158 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:36,806 long range these days are just about perfect 159 00:05:37,024 --> 00:05:39,736 for regular pistol and rim by training and 160 00:05:39,736 --> 00:05:40,853 close range car training. 161 00:05:42,224 --> 00:05:44,219 Pistols take up a lot less space in 162 00:05:44,219 --> 00:05:46,613 a safe. They're cheaper to practice with, and 163 00:05:46,613 --> 00:05:49,087 they have a lot of practical considerations. The 164 00:05:49,087 --> 00:05:49,886 chief 1 of those. 165 00:05:50,619 --> 00:05:53,810 Is that pistols are the civilian primary weapon. 166 00:05:54,049 --> 00:05:54,528 I know. 167 00:05:55,326 --> 00:05:56,065 I know 168 00:05:57,081 --> 00:05:59,595 given the choice of a going into a 169 00:05:59,735 --> 00:06:02,214 confrontation just about everyone, including me is gonna 170 00:06:02,214 --> 00:06:03,175 choose the long gun. 171 00:06:04,055 --> 00:06:06,795 I think was Clint Smith who famously qui 172 00:06:06,948 --> 00:06:08,694 The only purpose for a pistol is to 173 00:06:08,694 --> 00:06:10,042 fight your way back to the rifle you 174 00:06:10,042 --> 00:06:12,367 should have never laid down. I'm am not 175 00:06:12,581 --> 00:06:13,136 denying that. 176 00:06:14,423 --> 00:06:14,923 However, 177 00:06:15,620 --> 00:06:18,332 I also can't discount that you and I 178 00:06:18,332 --> 00:06:22,097 are probably not active serving military. Law enforcement 179 00:06:22,097 --> 00:06:24,651 or any profession where we're making a full 180 00:06:24,651 --> 00:06:26,806 time job out of getting into conflicts and 181 00:06:26,806 --> 00:06:28,801 are probably gonna have a rifle with us 182 00:06:28,801 --> 00:06:29,200 all the time. 183 00:06:30,327 --> 00:06:32,230 For the everyday remarks who's going about life, 184 00:06:32,626 --> 00:06:34,291 the thing we are most likely to have 185 00:06:34,291 --> 00:06:37,090 at hand to respond to a threat is 186 00:06:37,479 --> 00:06:37,959 a. 187 00:06:38,998 --> 00:06:41,156 During the early stages of something like scenario 188 00:06:41,156 --> 00:06:43,393 x, the whole point of the game is 189 00:06:43,393 --> 00:06:46,670 to be prepared while not drawing attention to 190 00:06:46,670 --> 00:06:46,910 yourself. 191 00:06:47,644 --> 00:06:49,805 Once you break out the long gun and 192 00:06:49,805 --> 00:06:51,904 load bearing gear, you are now signaling 193 00:06:52,605 --> 00:06:52,845 intent. 194 00:06:53,805 --> 00:06:56,420 That might be okay later on when you 195 00:06:56,619 --> 00:06:57,758 actually happen need 196 00:06:58,136 --> 00:07:00,770 to actively build a shield of deterrent to 197 00:07:00,770 --> 00:07:02,526 run your community with you and your team, 198 00:07:02,686 --> 00:07:04,841 by the way, not just you. But early 199 00:07:04,841 --> 00:07:05,081 on, 200 00:07:05,974 --> 00:07:08,531 Signaling intent to fight makes you come across 201 00:07:08,531 --> 00:07:09,430 as bell 202 00:07:09,809 --> 00:07:11,727 and draws all sorts of attention to you, 203 00:07:11,886 --> 00:07:14,608 both good and bad, and you don't necessarily 204 00:07:14,608 --> 00:07:17,940 want that attention. A pistol is the perfect 205 00:07:17,940 --> 00:07:20,319 tool here because you can conceal it. It's 206 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:20,819 inc, 207 00:07:21,684 --> 00:07:23,117 And then if you really want to, you 208 00:07:23,117 --> 00:07:25,687 could put something like a collapsed Pcc 209 00:07:26,063 --> 00:07:28,156 tucked into a non script backpack 210 00:07:28,532 --> 00:07:30,180 as a useful next step, which 211 00:07:30,696 --> 00:07:32,605 also useful it shares ammo mo with your 212 00:07:32,605 --> 00:07:33,003 handgun. 213 00:07:33,877 --> 00:07:35,627 Now if the pistol is gonna be your 214 00:07:35,627 --> 00:07:37,774 primary for 99 percent of life, 215 00:07:38,743 --> 00:07:40,755 than you and I 216 00:07:41,210 --> 00:07:42,483 should become proficient with it. 217 00:07:44,314 --> 00:07:47,201 And that's a challenge because pistols take more 218 00:07:47,258 --> 00:07:47,758 skill 219 00:07:48,069 --> 00:07:50,222 to master. Like, more time they're more difficult. 220 00:07:51,020 --> 00:07:52,775 And the everybody marks from discord server, which, 221 00:07:52,934 --> 00:07:55,088 by the way, become a subscriber on the 222 00:07:55,088 --> 00:07:56,843 email to click a link at the link 223 00:07:56,843 --> 00:07:57,640 and then join server. 224 00:07:58,451 --> 00:07:59,644 1 person put it this way. 225 00:08:00,917 --> 00:08:03,622 Having people consider you a pistol arrow is 226 00:08:03,622 --> 00:08:05,946 harder than a rifle man, and even more 227 00:08:05,946 --> 00:08:07,940 perishable. And now this individual we said this 228 00:08:07,940 --> 00:08:10,594 was a Usps master, and 229 00:08:11,370 --> 00:08:13,864 knows a lot about competitive shooting with rifles 230 00:08:14,082 --> 00:08:14,560 and pistols. 231 00:08:15,371 --> 00:08:16,903 And the idea here is that 232 00:08:17,912 --> 00:08:19,660 being good with pistols are earns you more 233 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:21,407 respect in the competition world. It just does, 234 00:08:21,645 --> 00:08:24,289 and the skill fades faster. Josh saw 235 00:08:25,077 --> 00:08:27,068 Josh. Shaw, And I'm not even gonna edit 236 00:08:27,068 --> 00:08:28,103 this 1 by the way. So you're just 237 00:08:28,103 --> 00:08:29,775 gonna deal with my little verbal typo. 238 00:08:30,970 --> 00:08:32,801 Josh says something similar when I interviewed him. 239 00:08:33,453 --> 00:08:36,317 To be blunt, it is far more difficult 240 00:08:36,317 --> 00:08:38,146 to be excellent with a pistol than it 241 00:08:38,146 --> 00:08:38,624 is a rifle. 242 00:08:39,658 --> 00:08:42,019 Pistols involve all of the same 243 00:08:42,536 --> 00:08:45,317 fundamentals as rifles, but they are far less 244 00:08:45,317 --> 00:08:47,384 forgiving of mistakes. Even more, 245 00:08:48,019 --> 00:08:50,745 pistol proficiency has the added complexity 246 00:08:51,213 --> 00:08:53,601 2 manual arms. Like like, not to mention 247 00:08:53,601 --> 00:08:55,829 just, like, manipulating and reloading and racking the 248 00:08:55,829 --> 00:08:57,898 sign and all that, but the draw itself 249 00:08:57,898 --> 00:08:59,330 is a huge component of being good with 250 00:08:59,330 --> 00:08:59,728 the pistol. 251 00:09:00,855 --> 00:09:02,283 That's is not something you worry about with 252 00:09:02,283 --> 00:09:02,680 the rifle. 253 00:09:03,949 --> 00:09:04,980 So in general, 254 00:09:05,932 --> 00:09:07,067 excellence with a pistol 255 00:09:07,693 --> 00:09:10,002 carries over far better to rifle shooting than 256 00:09:10,002 --> 00:09:12,072 the other way around. Think about it this 257 00:09:12,072 --> 00:09:15,098 way. If you're able to perfectly execute a 258 00:09:15,098 --> 00:09:17,654 trigger pull, and maintain side alignment when the 259 00:09:17,654 --> 00:09:19,638 trigger weight is more than the gun itself. 260 00:09:19,875 --> 00:09:21,938 Sometimes a lot more like a double action 261 00:09:21,938 --> 00:09:22,255 pistol. 262 00:09:23,144 --> 00:09:26,340 Then it's a trivial matter to have amazing 263 00:09:26,340 --> 00:09:28,497 trigger control with a 3 pound trigger on 264 00:09:28,497 --> 00:09:29,535 a 9 pound rifle. 265 00:09:30,348 --> 00:09:31,861 Okay. That's just 1 example of how it 266 00:09:31,861 --> 00:09:32,339 carries over. 267 00:09:33,772 --> 00:09:35,126 Then there's a whole cost factor. 268 00:09:35,922 --> 00:09:38,470 I'm I'm primarily gonna focus on ammo cost 269 00:09:38,470 --> 00:09:40,884 here. Because while, I could argue that pistols 270 00:09:40,884 --> 00:09:42,884 are cheaper to get into than Rifles. That's 271 00:09:42,884 --> 00:09:44,965 just not always the case anymore. You now, 272 00:09:45,125 --> 00:09:47,044 shout out Palm Metals state Armor here, not 273 00:09:47,044 --> 00:09:48,978 sponsored, but I'd like to throw, plug at 274 00:09:48,978 --> 00:09:50,496 them because they're they're great company. 275 00:09:52,015 --> 00:09:54,412 They brought down the price of a good 276 00:09:54,412 --> 00:09:56,744 serviceable Ar 15 to nearly half a cost 277 00:09:56,744 --> 00:09:58,898 of many pistols I'm interested in. So it's 278 00:09:58,898 --> 00:10:00,494 like a wash. And then not to mention 279 00:10:00,494 --> 00:10:01,690 when it comes to polymer pistol to have 280 00:10:01,690 --> 00:10:02,967 the whole dagger line which you're like, 281 00:10:04,498 --> 00:10:06,412 insanely cheap to get into like a gl 282 00:10:06,412 --> 00:10:06,970 style pistol. 283 00:10:07,927 --> 00:10:10,399 So the cost to get started is not 284 00:10:10,399 --> 00:10:12,872 really issue here, but ammo is a different 285 00:10:12,872 --> 00:10:13,111 story. 286 00:10:13,764 --> 00:10:16,313 Now, of course, dry fire is important. But 287 00:10:16,313 --> 00:10:17,826 let's do the quick math and say that 288 00:10:17,826 --> 00:10:20,557 you want to expand 200 rounds per month 289 00:10:20,694 --> 00:10:22,820 in live fire at the range. This is 290 00:10:23,019 --> 00:10:24,214 do this back of the napkin and with 291 00:10:24,214 --> 00:10:24,293 me. 292 00:10:25,170 --> 00:10:27,958 That's 04:50 round boxes, 9 mil or say 293 00:10:27,958 --> 00:10:29,710 10:20 round at 223. 294 00:10:30,763 --> 00:10:32,201 Back in the day, I could blow through 295 00:10:32,201 --> 00:10:33,639 that in a single hour. So we're being 296 00:10:33,639 --> 00:10:35,877 generous here and saying like this is a 297 00:10:35,877 --> 00:10:37,075 month worth of practice. 298 00:10:37,806 --> 00:10:39,789 Looking at prices, right? When I wrote this, 299 00:10:41,217 --> 00:10:43,200 I can get a reasonable practice 9 mil 300 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:45,263 ammo for about 15 cents a shot. 301 00:10:45,833 --> 00:10:48,535 Or 30 dollars a month and 360 dollars 302 00:10:48,535 --> 00:10:52,271 a year. For 223, that doubles to 32 303 00:10:52,271 --> 00:10:52,907 cents per shot, 304 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:55,874 62 month per year or 60 dollars per 305 00:10:55,874 --> 00:10:58,030 month and 768 306 00:10:58,030 --> 00:11:00,105 dollars a year. And that's double. I can 307 00:11:00,105 --> 00:11:01,862 get a lot more practice, a lot more 308 00:11:01,862 --> 00:11:04,450 bang from my buck So to speak with 309 00:11:04,588 --> 00:11:06,740 that I can with 2 3. And this 310 00:11:06,740 --> 00:11:08,812 only gets worse as you scale up the 311 00:11:08,812 --> 00:11:10,246 caliber something like 03:08. 312 00:11:10,899 --> 00:11:12,019 Basic 03:08 313 00:11:12,340 --> 00:11:12,660 Winchester. 314 00:11:13,299 --> 00:11:16,019 Again, doubles to 70 cents per shot. It's 315 00:11:16,019 --> 00:11:16,500 basic. 316 00:11:17,620 --> 00:11:20,100 That adds up to 1617 317 00:11:20,100 --> 00:11:22,826 dollars a year to practice with basic 3 318 00:11:22,826 --> 00:11:24,899 or away. Not even talking Mash section, it 319 00:11:24,899 --> 00:11:26,493 cost you, like, a buck 60 ish shot. 320 00:11:27,530 --> 00:11:28,667 So somebody 321 00:11:29,219 --> 00:11:31,634 From a pure cost standpoint, pistols 322 00:11:32,012 --> 00:11:33,630 are gonna help you build those fundamentals, 323 00:11:34,087 --> 00:11:36,562 much cheaper. Because remember pistol fundamentals carry over 324 00:11:36,562 --> 00:11:37,040 to rifles. 325 00:11:38,095 --> 00:11:39,774 Now, of course, Elephant in the room is 326 00:11:39,855 --> 00:11:42,334 Rim fire, which costs the same whether you're 327 00:11:42,334 --> 00:11:44,574 shooting it through a pistol or rifle. Rim 328 00:11:44,574 --> 00:11:46,826 fire is a fantastic tool. I took my 329 00:11:46,826 --> 00:11:47,565 22 330 00:11:48,659 --> 00:11:50,412 bolt action rifle out of the range as 331 00:11:50,412 --> 00:11:53,600 past weekend begin. It's it's a great time. 332 00:11:53,934 --> 00:11:55,450 I'm a huge applicant advocate a big fan. 333 00:11:55,769 --> 00:11:56,827 But keep in mind 334 00:11:57,285 --> 00:11:59,359 that the very low recoil of Rim fire, 335 00:11:59,838 --> 00:12:00,635 especially in a rifle, 336 00:12:01,129 --> 00:12:02,961 can also teach some bad habits. So I 337 00:12:02,961 --> 00:12:04,554 still think there's a lot of room for 338 00:12:04,554 --> 00:12:05,453 keeping a, 339 00:12:05,829 --> 00:12:07,285 quote unquote, normal 340 00:12:07,980 --> 00:12:10,424 recoil round in your practice rotation, so you 341 00:12:10,704 --> 00:12:11,582 learn how to deal with that. 342 00:12:13,178 --> 00:12:14,534 Now let's talk about the cool factor. 343 00:12:15,651 --> 00:12:17,327 This 1 is just kind of a point 344 00:12:17,327 --> 00:12:17,726 for fun. 345 00:12:18,459 --> 00:12:20,297 But the more I thought about it, resourced 346 00:12:20,297 --> 00:12:22,454 and consider what kinds of projects I wanna 347 00:12:22,454 --> 00:12:23,993 tackle in the future 348 00:12:24,851 --> 00:12:27,021 potentially the near future, The more I how 349 00:12:27,021 --> 00:12:29,411 to admit there's a certain level of artist 350 00:12:29,411 --> 00:12:31,881 tree and cool factor that goes into pistols. 351 00:12:32,837 --> 00:12:35,148 I don't necessarily mean like the polymer wonder 352 00:12:35,148 --> 00:12:37,236 nines here. You know, once you go up 353 00:12:37,236 --> 00:12:38,831 market a bit into the all metal pistols, 354 00:12:38,990 --> 00:12:41,165 the options for customization become 355 00:12:41,542 --> 00:12:41,941 enormous. 356 00:12:42,579 --> 00:12:44,573 There's a reason that the so called barbecue 357 00:12:44,573 --> 00:12:45,450 gun is a pistol, 358 00:12:45,944 --> 00:12:48,257 riding on the hip. Not a rifle. It's 359 00:12:48,257 --> 00:12:50,889 uno unproductive, but its presence makes a statement. 360 00:12:51,447 --> 00:12:53,681 Much like a gentleman's watch or a pair 361 00:12:53,681 --> 00:12:55,196 of expert shine shoes, 362 00:12:55,929 --> 00:12:58,004 pistol on the hip sends a certain kind 363 00:12:58,004 --> 00:13:00,958 of signal, whether it's a c in 19 364 00:13:00,958 --> 00:13:01,357 11 of, 365 00:13:02,235 --> 00:13:04,150 high power or something else. 366 00:13:04,884 --> 00:13:08,004 There's an entire industry of guns myths committed 367 00:13:08,004 --> 00:13:10,164 to the cause of helping you make it 368 00:13:10,164 --> 00:13:11,924 yours and something to be proud of. 369 00:13:12,976 --> 00:13:15,065 There's something to be said about enjoying 370 00:13:15,439 --> 00:13:17,846 carrying a gun that took a real human 371 00:13:18,140 --> 00:13:20,604 to personally fit and finish just so. 372 00:13:21,974 --> 00:13:24,311 Such a gun stands out in a market 373 00:13:24,610 --> 00:13:27,566 full of utilitarian black plastic and mel united 374 00:13:27,566 --> 00:13:28,126 striker fires. 375 00:13:29,099 --> 00:13:30,612 Let the difference between a man who wears 376 00:13:30,612 --> 00:13:32,921 a piece of mass produced consumer electronics on 377 00:13:32,921 --> 00:13:35,787 his wrist, like an apple watch or ubiquitous 378 00:13:35,787 --> 00:13:36,902 around here, Virginia. 379 00:13:37,633 --> 00:13:39,702 And a man who wears something analog, 380 00:13:40,100 --> 00:13:40,498 mechanical, 381 00:13:41,850 --> 00:13:42,884 assembled by a craftsman. 382 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:44,078 Sn, 383 00:13:45,127 --> 00:13:45,366 perhaps. 384 00:13:46,479 --> 00:13:47,593 But I don't think it's wrong. 385 00:13:48,627 --> 00:13:49,741 Through where am I going with this. 386 00:13:50,775 --> 00:13:52,460 All of this is to say my personal 387 00:13:52,460 --> 00:13:54,847 focus for the rest of this year and 388 00:13:54,847 --> 00:13:57,710 likely into next year is on pistols and 389 00:13:57,710 --> 00:13:58,585 handgun proficiency. 390 00:13:59,157 --> 00:14:00,591 Now, it's not say there won't be rifle 391 00:14:00,591 --> 00:14:03,241 content. I actually have a few incoming rifles 392 00:14:04,015 --> 00:14:07,121 for review as I'm putting this podcast together. 393 00:14:07,934 --> 00:14:10,251 But my personal goals are gonna center her 394 00:14:10,251 --> 00:14:10,811 on the pistol. 395 00:14:11,370 --> 00:14:12,430 That might mean 396 00:14:13,368 --> 00:14:15,206 learning how to tune and modify a bit, 397 00:14:15,366 --> 00:14:17,538 So so we'll see. But for me, in 398 00:14:17,538 --> 00:14:19,775 my current circumstances this makes the most sense 399 00:14:19,775 --> 00:14:22,411 to pursue. So what about you? Are you 400 00:14:22,411 --> 00:14:24,341 all in on the pistol train? Have I 401 00:14:24,341 --> 00:14:26,649 convinced you. Come by the website everyday marshall 402 00:14:26,649 --> 00:14:29,435 dot c and comment on this episode or 403 00:14:29,435 --> 00:14:31,027 join this discord server or comment on it 404 00:14:31,266 --> 00:14:33,017 Youtube I know. That's actually pretty apt to 405 00:14:33,017 --> 00:14:35,334 spot these he's he's these audio episodes and 406 00:14:35,493 --> 00:14:37,397 going to Youtube as well. Anyway, let me 407 00:14:37,397 --> 00:14:39,301 know what you think. Thanks for listening, and 408 00:14:39,460 --> 00:14:41,126 I'll catch you next time. Take care yourself.