You know, somebody somewhere in Sweden are sitting
on like, 250
copies of like 4 Japanese frantic searches or
something, and
they're just waiting for the day. I don't
know. Like, how how long seriously,
how long until a grief signed
appears in front of the the Hq,
I think like, it should have happened already.
I know. Like I know. Babe like, for
business maybe it takes like, another, like, 2
months
It's different, like, the expectation is just completely
there now. We know it. It's not like
top where people like, please please do it.
Like, but no expectation or not knowing. Here
it's like, right? We're just flicking our thumbs
until aubrey be Yeah. But basically way it
works, like top constantly kept grinding away at
you. Like I get the format in a
way, like, ever so slightly for for many,
many years, like seriously. I wanted to abandon
like, thousand and 9 2010,
and it it was been legacy like 2017.
That that's all. It sounds like kind of
like representative of the clay style that that
top stood for, 2 whereas
grief, basically like you show up for the
tournament to punches you in the face as
hard as you can You're... It still just
lunch. Is he. Yeah. And you're like, yeah,
This is what I signed up for. Okay.
Let's let let's play a couple morons until
Find somebody who doesn't play grief and punch
me. The face, and then the play on
space or something. So top pad decks like
Nick fit keeping when now. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I don't know. It's like, you know, when
you have, like, x crazy dictate, like, idiot
amin mean or something, but, you're like, yeah,
but he also did something for the environment.
Right? But that's what people talk... Say, like,
top was good like, and I don't know...
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I'm not buying that.
That's fair sir. Oh, guys. How's it going.
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Guys, It's been cut kind already just like
mention it to me. I think it's been
3 weeks. Right? You only did 1 episode
last month. What happened?
I was away, and I think we were,
like, maybe something happens to the legacy format.
Kinda. Yeah. Actually, you were you are, like
in Italy. Right? Were highly law or... Yeah.
I was on a cooking
deal. Is what you do... It's what you
put on the on the last episode. Right?
Yeah. Like, like Ky when he wasn't in
prisoner, I Marie. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly.
You what I'm just that your eye I'm
in charge of the show notes, right and
and typing off. Like, at some, you're gonna
outsource it Chat.
Yeah you. Did you know, like, you can
completely and that's actually wired to me. You
can completely
outsource on automate.
Making a podcast. I was listening to a
podcast the other day I bought. Give us
secrets away 8 Jesus Christ.
The kai is like, I've I've been faking
my, like, persona for, like, 20 years. Something
Yeah. I been honest. That's been our secret
sauce. Yeah.
So seriously, I was listening to like a
hacking podcast, and they talked about how good...
Like, if you get a little bit like
10 minutes of or less
of somebody speaking. You can train in an
Ai on that, and they can produce
insane results. Absolutely insane results. And then the
guy like he explains it and talks about
it. And then like after 10 minutes, he's
like, by the way, the first 10 minutes.
Yeah, That was all Ai.
Oh, maybe
maybe it's still. Yes. And I was like
dude. You just, like, completely blow my mind.
Okay. When do you think we can get
Ais to either play merge together or talk
about a a match together for 10 minutes.
But the thing is...
Oh, that yeah. That should definitely try like,
in the next couple of years maybe where,
like, what 1 of 1 of those 3
coasts just phases out for, like, an hour
and we replacement it with Ai. And just
see what happens. What you can Oops mirror.
Did IIII just hope that person whoever it
is, like, you know, acts
stands for a, on ben day through time.
And then, like, you said something and then
you get, like, canceled all over the place
and then you come back and, like, yeah.
I mean, like, you know, like, you kinda
know if it's a Ai or not, if
the Ai starts to, you know, mention, like
T and through time in the same sentence,
for example, you know, like their shit's gonna
happen. Did you reminds me, like, of the
when in the merlin?
They are bad Aircraft again.
Ali Time, You remember when people were playing...
No No not people. Okay. Okay. I gotta
rephrase that. When the America's threat on the
Sars got point, where people were like, should
we play N rod Mari. Color you remember
that that's right? Oh, yeah. Poor on baby.
War. It was poor. Yeah. Hell? Classic. No.
Wait, Are you are you supposed to, like,
bolt out your tops and bringing the rods
or how does it work? Click like a
against storm or something. Right? I think so
and they just killed you with Cabal Rituals
and passing names anyway. So it didn't matter.
That that's so that's so. That's so bizarre
because, Like, what what we used to do
back then the a thousand tendencies to site
out a couple of Led leds anyway. Makes
sense. It's like it's just like so what
else it was against. So what's what's the
point? Also I out your tops in the
mirror and another of them. Oh, man. It
also like I I just came back from
France and and the French language is beautiful,
you know, but
Rod and French is just.
It's something baguette spaghetti isn't. It's the baguette.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Baguette.
You gotta buy old copies saying, I I
wouldn't be surprised if Baguette that causes yours
like, you know, double the price of a
regular rod curse of the name. There are
the Germany has been like a joke for
a long time and everybody always said it's
called Baguette
Real, which which would be even cooler, but,
I guess,
what about that is?
But the way speaking of, like, putting questionable
carts in your deck, I wanna give a
shout out to 1, like, the thing that
made me laugh the most in the last
week or even the last couple of weeks,
and that's...
Mark Eric Fork winner of Gp Bo 2000.
They went off the last legacy Gp ever,
actually.
He played against the guy,
their fu
amazing name.
And that person was probably playing something like
I wanna say, Dragon stomp, like Moon stamp,
And turns out they didn't copy paste the
deck list, but actually, like, type it out
when when they got the cards magic online.
And you know how sometimes those list still
play like bone crusher giant. 1 that has
like that adventure thing that damage company prevented,
blah blah. Yeah. The person like, probably mis
misread and they put in 4 copies of
bone break outside the deck. Oh, no. That
card is great though. It it fits features
a 2 Chrome marx like nothing else. Yes.
Hell.
I mean, that deck is just like
Hours played blood moon and then place some
random red cards. It probably wasn't as bad
as a bigger mistake Oh, man. Like, you
you can also like crazy
you know, if you play that as a
regular threat and you just
hilarious. Like more than
4 4. Failure doesn't know. I think it's
4 and red for A55. Right? Oh, it's
run a red for A4444.
At.
That natural continuation of of G bears.
G who shine and then bomb giant. Good.
Imagine losing through that.
Apparently Mark lost 1 of the games, but
not to bone break child goodness. In Scary
he did.
The the moment you... Like given the the
the the he posted a chat, and the
guy was just so chill about it. My
what did I miss? Yeah. Look the same.
Copy Japanese list and didn't look properly. Thought
it's paul crusher giant.
I love it. I love it. Love it.
Oh, yeah. That's... You just hold to a
paper tournament playing like that.
Alright. You got you thirsty.
Dude I I wanna match on playing Giant
Spider against at North storm, and even against
against Canadian threshold.
Spider server?
Yeah. How do they be a giant spider?
Yeah. Oh, they just don't because it's Mo
and Del, Yeah. Be immediately dead.
Yeah. I remember, like, I I played something
else, and the pond was, like, how, you're
not gonna trick me because I know I
need to save money more for the giants
spine. I think I'm I need
like spider stump when Blue red Elm was
really really big and Mats ole A50 with
it.
It was just like Cabins and swarm yards
and then buy and loads of spiders.
He pretty sick.
Yeah. Which she should goes against like 1
of the those tenants of how to would
be good at magic.
You know, that I think it goes back
to Kai buddha who said,
play creatures, attack with creatures and don't play
any stupid fucking spiders. Yeah. She's like, 25
years old some kind of c, and I
always think back that when people play spiders
us in especially legacy.
Oh, but guys I I had no idea
what happened
when I played against suffered a breakfast the
other day because I don't know if you
guys knew this, I certainly didn't.
There I no more stuff it. Like yeah
change.
That...
The got said, Chris.
Like octopus doesn't appear in any card name,
but ce it does.
And, like, Aggregate good... Right? It's, it's such
such a unique magic to gathering only creature
type I think.
Like, octopus I can also see another card
games but Sephora it is so, like, specific.
I didn't even know where a Sephora it
is to be in this. It's probably like,
definitely something related to the brain or something
like I think that's like said saf lighter
or something like you break and proliferation on
my brain or something no idea.
I... Are you a doctor or something?
No. But, like, I know things. Kinda. But
at least I... Yeah. I convinced myself to
all things and then
That's that's not exactly the kind of quality
you want a doctor, I guess.
Now, but you you know what actually broke
my heart. Yeah. Suffered being up octopus now.
Na snake, whatever. You've chin, I never had
like, a special affection for like, if rates
and chin. I don't even know what the
difference is. But we as she knows
really didn't have to kill or she knows
See why. I mean, they they they have
a reason obviously.
I mean, I didn't why, but for me,
part of magic at beginning was it's because
it's got its own Ip and it's got
its own cool things and stuff. And when
I was younger, I remember opening boosters. And
seeing she knows and I'm like, oh, they're
kinda like lizards, but they're not they're there's
thing from magic in its cool. Right. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, even though they they kinda look
the same, yeah you... You start to imagine
maybe like, special attributes for, like, special
strengths or some, you know, some... Yeah.
Mh. I mean, in the end it's a
flavor I think and not really gonna matter
to me all that much. It's just like,
indicative indicator of, like, a bigger trend of,
like,
I don't know.
Things. It's went some a fake engineer. Oh,
No... Honestly, the reasons just, I think they
wanna make it easier.
Yeah Probably. They this should come those savings
happened. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Like... I can't remember
now. They did it with some other clutch
types. I. Like, infect creatures all booked for
vaccine and stuff. Like, it's... They are trying
to cut down the number of reach types.
But I think it's 1 of the reasons
interested buying. I don't know. Yeah.
Because like, everybody knows what Lives is, but
if you come to magic, you don't know
what whatever your she. But then at the
same time. I mean, that's always there ferrari
in front of you...
I mean, fought for, you you don't give
them any ideas. Like, you know, you already
have out art basics and people love them
apparently. They'll do like... Yeah. We've had full
arts. We'll do no art soon.
Oh I
like actually. Color them in safe. That sounds
good work. Like, you you just, like, draw
your own Artwork, and then people like Kai
are gonna get rich because they they were
like do the at the artwork. The future,
you have to pay extra for artwork if
you want that on your cards? Oh no.
You just get like, a exactly price. Like
just you put you're write the text on
them. They're okay. Have fun.
No But we shi of worry that has
especially because, I mean, they met already made
it a lizard warrior, literally called Lizard warrior
in potter, which like the whole idea was
being like simplified. But now that via Warrior,
isn't even a Yoshi shin warrior anymore creature
type wise.
He... He's like kicked out of the clap
of creatures that have, like, the same name
Creature types, which is like Sole. Right? You
don't really get that in creatures.
We she Warrior used to be a creature,
we she No warrior.
It's it's kind of like like legends, like,
you you got, like, Uncle Ish and, like,
creature tay ban, Just like, hey.
Oh, yeah. You also not have that anymore.
But, yeah, I just like... I'm partial to
to be yoshi because they... They were like,
big thing and and when I started playing
matching lots a saga and, like, I I
thought they were, like pretty cool and and
had a couple of cool cards, but I
had a deck with that 1 that was,
like, a 4 has that returns to your
hand the the tenth. Oh, car something like
that. Exactly the 1 I was thinking about.
And I remember,
It taking me ages to work out, like,
why it was good because you have to
keep playing it and stuff. But then it
was like, oh, it's actually, like, got a
4 power with He's for 3 manner. That's
it's actually that was well above rate. The...
In those days.
It felt like anyway.
Oh.
Yeah. Oh, also also, let's... Let let's just
hope that they don't they're coal
sliver.
Again, I don't know fish face fun. Oh
smell Good is it. You know, you you
you know, you you go like, yeah. I
new 5 color.
State it's very much not for sharing abilities.
Yeah. And they all fly other people kinda...
Anyone represents communism.
Like, the west, like, a lot of western
destinations there represented by, like, eagles, but I
guess, also like you had that communism. Like
the bear.
Notes the bear.
The bear. The bear. Yeah. Oh, the bare
1 that everything's are 2 too? No. No
No. No No. Like, when you think about,
like, the summit you need to think about
be. Right? Right. Right. Yeah So so maybe
bounce check. This... Yeah. Well, yeah. There's there's
the 1 in 1 Rosa 3 that makes
all creatures the 2 2 everything's fair and
balanced.
Oh definitely. And then you got you got
a paired off if trying undermine there's.
Kai is definitely a dictator.
I'm gonna understand with just said. Do you
know what you said, no I said, yeah.
You pair it with you english sean. So
all yours are 4 falls and all les
a dead.
This this maximum fun for us spoken get
through Doom stay player guys. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
True.
Oh, yeah. May maybe I have noticed but,
like, Doom players in general they hate creatures.
Same for storm players to look to they
don't give us shit creatures. I mean in
your deck? Yeah.
Yeah. I was like, I was more like
your. So how many cards you do you
have in hand and what's your life total?
Opened up brilliant place those creatures now?
You play frogs?
Oracle,
street rates,
shield
those Don't even brief to do like
Park.
Yeah. For everyone believing that the thousands oracle
creatures that's just already a kinda mistake. It's
it's just that it's this anime character that
just shows up at the end and and
then
and then you win the game. Yeah make
so sorry, that makes A22.
It's a race the alarm that also has
you win the game with but
Oh my goodness.
By the way, guys, before we go on,
I I quickly wanna I give a very
quick shout out too because I don't really
know anything else about that, but Charlie Bright
cop won the South German legacy championship
apparently playing red white initiative hit from what
I gave out on on discord.
Wow.
Hey. Be we talk clapping.
Chris especially because, like, initiative is having a
really tough time with everyone just grief and
then re animating their initiative creatures.
Oh, definitely. Yeah. And the draws is too.
They're really. Yeah. Who some fucking... What kind
helped me out. What what's the 1 that
occurs me on turn the.
Holy, should you tell me? Like, I think
on a left sorry it does line breaker.
Line break. I... Then my lines were broken,
like, many times over. Holy so powerful. You
told me about the card and it literally
kicked me on turn 3. Like, on the
first time they played that that Large, that
makes everything cheaper gives like plus parents the
end. I I love that we a few
in the podcast that were never like.
And that like on the second, they played
the the line breaker. The Yeah. And Attacked
for, I wanna say, like, 6, even could
at least? It's like
some often.
Sometimes better than
rail smash. Yeah. Cheaper as well. Yeah. I
think they the that that Cri Tech for
6 and then the other 1 for, like,
1 or 2. And then on the third
turn, it literally kicked me. Like I I
even had, like, block, and then and just
like this my my boom trendy damage to
your face. The deck is so fast. I
found like
that card is amazing, and I've died on
turn 3 a couple of times as well.
But the cards...
For me is impressed me in the most
is the flesh. It just...
Oh, absolutely... With got because it's command, especially.
It's just like, twin. It just kills you.
Yeah. I definitely. Like, III paid it. Again,
I played against it on
last Thursday
I just I just saw build, like, AAA
rock deal of a deck, you know, just
because I like like from the Loa and
All my awesome michelle you to place from
the low and the killing in 10 3.
0, man. Dude. And I'm telling you, like,
I got Pat against Rick's ce and Life
alone was probably never better than lost those.
That's gonna tell you. It was...
Loom from
As well if you can kill their creatures.
Yeah, Kind of. That's also what I thought,
but it's a little... It's a little slow
though, because our are much much faster. I
paid against it in the last round. And,
man, the the line breaker,
with, the thought not see. I was also
kinda of brutal because I take the... Usually,
you only removal spill and then they they're
kraken for, like, half of your life lifetime.
Half your life totally Right? It's it's kinda
crazy. Exactly.
And also like, another guy, I totally underestimated
was the, El dr flash breaker, which is
the... Yeah. M 3 minute 2, and it
poops out.
O 1, draws your response whenever you cast
a yeah. Not color spell. And also, like,
start draining your life for a little bit.
You what. Yeah.
So so like what happened was, like, dude
I cited into
from
quite
I I had a 1 of 1 phone
1 off because I felt like a door.
Oh, man dude. And, obviously, like before tournament
I meant I let everyone and then room
know that there was a tom boy in
my deck, even though it was in a
sidecar. You such a fake. You know, that
there was this game where when you have
by Tomahawk Going 4, I've moved that region,
and
they they have... They have a couple of
dudes, including the the flash, and things start
to kinda balance out, but
there are 20 life still in your 10.
You cannot attack. And that's that that that's
the that's that that's a whole trick about
this flash is that, like, you can't really
stabilize. What As long as this guy lives,
every single draws that might potentially be another
o 1 that also that also drains your
for lot, 1 life like a ticket a
time bomb. Yeah.
Crazy powerful. I totally underestimated the sky, please
like yeah. Idiot. The good thing just lighting
there. The the other card that is so
so impressive is the Mic born.
That guide is insane. It's annoying. It's really
annoying. It's incredibly annoying and, so many times
you're like, because the deck is so fast
aggressive. This is, like the the mid range
Of card, I guess. But so often they'll,
like, kick it. You know, they have they
had tap 3 lands to kick in and
stuff. And then they'll excel on your basics,
and then go and get a waste waste
on your thing. And so you just get
double stone range, and it's just especially aggressive
First time it happened to me, I was
like, oh, are they gonna get like I
of Oo and then like next turn gets
on that old wasteland you. Fuck you. It's
it's a similar like it's not a problem
here based similar to na, like, the lan
companies play untapped is just so pushed and
it's
unnecessary. But... Yeah. I do a lot
I'm unnecessary. Yeah.
You say that, like, with a lot of,
like, I don't know. You're trying to to
make me feel guilty about it. They should
they should be... The card is insane. It's
been
Yeah. I think all the el dr, I
think most people are a bit too low
on them, but it's hard it's hard to
work it out because at the same time,
like, the the deck had been dead for
so long We haven't seen it.
And everyone's eyes run the Yu lab at
the beginning. So everyone was looking at 7CCC
or higher. I'll triangle the sole ends. Mh.
Actually, just being aggressive is really good.
Oh, yeah. Totally totally. And, like, and this
this means a lot in an environment where
there is the initiative mechanic, for example, which
is, like, 1 1 of the most broken
things you can do in fair magic. I
imagine needs used to do that. If if
he even can call this fair magic because
I don't know, but the the addresses are,
yeah, insanely fast,
I don't even know if you have enough
time to like, brainstorm some point for removal
it. Like, you gotta have to remove them
already thinking I mean it depends on what
that you're playing in up episode. I'd be
like looking to side out Ponder against the
deck. Yeah. I can I can see that
very much?
Oh, but going back to Kai,
like
tendencies, like the next thing an I was
shown says, kai
France.
Oh, so you want a big twin.
Hey. Yeah. Dude. I went to energy once.
I didn't play that tournament, but I watched
a lot of people play that tournament.
2 days legacy.
That's a that's a event that happens, I
think twice a year. Yeah, It's a 2
day legacy event. Even the side events were
legacy opened. It's an entire legacy.
This was an entire legacy weekend.
It's, like, nearly,
which is cut on the middle of the
country. Also
somewhat close to the
Swiss
Italian
trim border or Okay.
So I mean, it's probably like, a couple
couple of hours of with the car, but...
Yeah. It was it was great. Dude. It
was it were like, a hundred
20 30 40 players, something like that.
On both days and the were couple of
vendors. There was, this fantastic Ulta Ultra Alt
Kevin Altered. From Paris, I think, And people
came from, like, old parts of, of, from
France. Right? From, like, Marseille,
Paris Lyon, even from Italy Milan, and La
Matteo Luca fa sol and the kings.
Yeah. The boys they made it. They made
it with the car Yeah. They told me
it was, like, 6 hours or something. And
then... Well, 1 of them, Fab Gen,
he actually won the legacy tournament on Saturday,
which is
Oh, man. Dude. I could scroll down and
actually look up which Tac plate. Can I
just guess? You can guess and you're right.
Okay. Okay. Got you got you got 1.
You got 1 guess but... Fuck you get
half of my card. Okay. Meet we Go
on. Go on.
But... Yeah. You know how how kinda like
what terrible the Legacy game is right now.
But what I noticed this time and maybe
it's just me, but I feel like French
players don't complain. As much as other people
from other countries. That's not only customer.
I don't... Yeah. I just wanted to know
if that's true because that be insane. There
was... Yeah. There was just not a lot
of complaints. People just seem to have a
really good time there, even though the...
I think it was infested by Scam. No.
Like, at I'll last L, I didn't see
people really complaining, but you're still playing against
it and inter... Internally screaming, but I didn't
know. Honestly, I I feel like getting paper,
that's not really, like, complaining going on. Because
after all, you went to the tournament and
you hang out of, like, mostly friends. Some,
and and you just like you play the
game you love. There's a sense of exceptions
as well and, yeah. I think it's a
great point Julian that you're like, with your
friends. It's And then for playing on Magic
online, you're just like, well, here's my friend
to grief.
You have exactly 1 threat. Yeah. Yeah. If
you know, you go and then you go
on through it and, like you see all
these guys like Jp pa. Dude, like, I
played 9 rounds of like, she's okay. And
the 12 of those that played against Grief
and it was just like, what is this?
Mh. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah. He's Definitely. 1 1 more thing about
about the tournament minute and why I like
that 1 in particular is that, and a
part of the crew
Like, they they have they have such a
well organized team. It's
like, they they they do run the tournament.
They have their judges and so on, but
they're old... 1 of them, Alex also runs
his own bar in lyon. So, like, he
he bought, like, you know, a lot of
a lot of our tabs 2 d events
people could refuel... Yeah. Like, it was like
a delicious pale ale, I think. So I'm
also looking at picture. We'll we'll put these
in the show notes. Picture of the venue
looks incredible like, so spacious and nice. And
I know the the French guys are put
on, like, so Greg and everyone and stuff.
And so I would love to come to
this 1 day. Like Just that was wonderful.
Oh, yeah. Definitely. Definitely. Yeah. Really nice air
conditioning too. And Yep. Like, just touch on
the you it kinda looks a little bit
like, like, impact returns. Right?
Is it? Like,
kind
Yeah. III think... Because because I think this
room or, yeah. This whole is a theater
room.
Okay. Yeah, like this is this this... Yeah.
This giant stage we, which I couldn't
take a photo off here, but as you
can see, like, the the the the red
chairs over there this. You know, this is
where people can sit and enjoy, like a
a consult. I I thought it was like
an indoor sports stadium. I'm kind of like
in spain. Right? What's just... Yeah. Oh, yeah.
That's.
So okay can, like, how was it like
for you at the booth? Because he'll complete
revamped your entire booth. Right? You you share
the concept of it so many people,
yeah. I met. So this was also like,
the the first
Arm stop at my...
What was the? True You you gotta have,
like, property ordered a big It it it's
like 1 step, like, proper names special.
Yeah, So it's the it's a Solid tar
20 24
1 domination tour of doom, Doom of doom.
That's that's the 1II was fighting for.
This was the first talk, and I Yeah.
I I have a brand new really flashy
booth concept where people can, you know, get
their play mats and tokens whatnot, but that
can also challenge me and added a little
bit of a twist to this 1 because
there is a beautiful fortune,
and everyone gets a free roll. And
Man, you know, like, some of those roles
were insane. Like, they they some of them
have quickly explain the concept of it because
I think a lot of exactly Understand how
it works with the, like, that we watching,
but... Okay. What does it do? Yeah. Alright.
So you you show up. You smash the
button
the buzzer. To to start the challenge. It's
a 1 versus 1 in either legacy or
modern. I got
multiple decks prepared for both formats.
And
then the challenger is gonna roll the wheel
of fortune,
and some of those feels are having a
crazy impact on the game. I had there's
1 that says all creatures feb has,
which was ridiculous against that 1 player who
who... Who challenged me and he was some
painter. I didn't know that. But all Dude
all his goblin val had have a taste.
All his fable mirror breaker, God also at
Hayes immediately made to our treasures. It was
it was a mess I'm telling you. They
they completely
me with K.
No. Time title splash nose, con crossroads top
painter. Exactly This.
Mysterious.
Yeah. And then there was, like this this
other challenger who who rolled both players start
with Isa vial in play already in play.
And then he shows me a second and
he reels Y 1.
Stuff like that, you know? And I I
gotta tell you, like, I have... Like, the
most ridiculous games in a fun way. In
a really, really fun way.
And there was a decent crowd of every
time because every... Like, No no 1 has
ever seen a game where, the burn player
draws 2 cost per face or like, we're
in the plain button. Exactly. Yeah. Oh, where,
where my modern
abi titan player also start with Chaos or
in hand. You know, Like, you have a
lot of... You have a lot of those
quite crazy scenarios that never come up, but
people are so familiar with, like, how things
how things support again oh, man. I also
filed in a couple of secrets. And out
do the k chaos 1 work workout.
So Chaos was probably like the saddest story
because my point was on the draw and
he had to go to this card
And like, he was so sorry about the
this are but he said, like, This is
literally the voice
right now.
And I was like to dude dude like,
he's because he's playing that big man deck.
Right? Like, it's it's not about the cast
you act like. You need to you need
to run have a hand size of 8
as well.
Oh, yeah. Maybe they can like, bit apart
like 10 pieces maybe just like the old
times. Yeah.
It's like, you got this amazing card of
nobody ever played take got to this skirt.
Oh,
man it's
disrespect.
Really cool idea there. Well, yeah. But that
was the cool... That was the whole, like,
both booth concepts it was like AAI place
to. You know, to get your tokens and
whatnot, but also to have a, crap ton
of fun, especially if you're in the so
called like, beer bracket, you know, we're like,
o 2 or something and you start drinking
beer. You know, a lot of people just
ended having a really good time there, including
myself. Did you keep track of track of
your records did you win lose a lot
So I I actually won a little more
than I lost. Rig and rigged.
Oh, man dude. You you guys are got
you you gotta try better, please. Wow. Do
you not take this front? Do not take
this.
Oh, shit, But before I forget, I got
crushed I got completely crushed by true future.
He was also here. I think he he
lives in Paris and he he went all
the way to leon. And played at the
main event, I think both days with his
twelfth post deck. I think everyone on Magic
on. I knows that he's always on a
whole deck.
Owned gosh.
He crossed me
my life, and literally. Yeah. I... Like, So
I was playing this feet, others in elves
stack, and I had I I had lethal
on board for next turn,
and
he had this tab and echo, which I,
you know, end end up like, paying with
my guys created, like, all the time. But
but then on this very last turn,
he tapped 3 of his Oo towers, which
all tap 3 manner,
to cost to get corn and to go
get Michel lettuce. Mh.
And first, I didn't really know what was
going on because I thought, okay Well, I
can I could just kill the car and
and and that's it? But I totally forgot
about tab ankle, and my eyes cradle, not
tapping for Mana. Actually, like, none of my
stuff tapping for Mana.
So that was like, that was leave you
to that combination.
Oh, man Do that. I wanna call it.
I wanted to call this... Yeah. I call
it almost.
But, you know, at this point, it's a
3 card combo. So, you know,
That's okay. It's it's a lot of combos.
Like, you use a third card but you
get it for free off the khan.
Yeah. Yeah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. It's it's
still no. You know that that's what Dr
people say, like, if you have enough money,
it's just a 2 card cover because I
have tried to fight man of funding.
So c rich their with Tab.
Definitely. Yeah. Oh, man. You you already mentioned
that Fabric to won the entire thing, and
we got a hundred and 28 player salt
great. What's the tournament actually card? Because, like
on an Mt msg top, it says gun
legacy or maybe it's, like French. It's like
g 1 or Guinea? No. It's It's it's
just gone legacy 12. It was like... It
was... Yeah. It was like this regular series,
and the Sunday event was,
I did special coaster was the El qualifier
if I remember correctly. Oh, and they only
had like, 3 copies of black scam on
the top 8. So I see, this is
pretty diverse. Got octopus breakfast over here. We
got Blue white control.
Please don't say octopus ad stressed. Well that's
it because I I did My god. I'd
never thought of that.
Please know. Because because now because now it
actually sounds like an actual meal to me
You know Sounds like, you know, 1 of
those American cereal brands. Octopus breakfast. And you
see, like, the the tiny mascot they have.
It's probably like a purple mask purple octopus,
like, a spoon feeding like all the sugar
and everything. So like, yeah.
And it's like a catch trace, like get
8 off them or something. I don't know.
They're definite 8 8 arms or something. I
don't know. Get aid. Was like eat 8.
Yeah. I see where you're going. It works.
I think. Yeah. Yeah. I...
Okay. I obviously just moved with something better...
There's like 1 deck. I really wanna show
you guys in this top 8 beers. I
think it's a really unique deck that you
don't see very often
It's the third slash 4 play storm by
David m F.
And you gotta check out this necklace list
because this is a storm deck that place
force of... With house a storm deck.
Exactly. That's... Oh, you're talking about the fourth
plastic.
Mh. Yeah. Okay.
Exactly Like, I was looking at the third.
It's just like, brainstorm force of ne mitigation
solid its huge
and storm coming in.
Okay. Okay.
Yeah. You gotta check this out. Like, it's
like, 16 lens.
Even mean including like, a seat of sign
and voted to Vis or both to 1
off. And then, yeah. And then, like, the
deck has, like the 4. You got the
brainstorm. You got the cabal r stock grids.
You got force of wheels.
Which is really unusual for for a storm
deck and and you... Because you also see
it there is no Led in this deck.
Ga Ga wheels P panda, sting as into
S poor, which is this new like, bounce
land I which is contact this, how to.
Lightning Bold. 1 t of 4 thought is
1 v of summer. And then, the show
continues with 4 copies of dress down, main
deck, 4 lu pets and 3 the 1
ring.
K. This guy is pretty nice... This is
this is a.
I love the the rings and force will
in, like, a a ritual deck it's just
a great base. Yeah. The call almost never
kill you before turned 3 or 4, but
it has some potential seem to respect it.
Exactly. Yes. This this this tech this that
cannot kill you on turn 1. That's impossible.
Like, no matter what the car combination is,
I think
you can... You cannot turn it in then
kill on turn 1. But you can un
turn 2, I think if you get, like,
super lucky ways. You're get from can talk
someone right like, lotus pedals lot of pedals
on like a page wheel.
Yeah. Yeah. You can. But alright needs to
have a nuts. Alright alright. Alright. Okay. You
can. Alright. Alright I get Do it ask
people like us. What if you can do
some of that. Someone point out.
You've sort across somebody doing that to us
many times. Yeah. Yeah. But this do is
A26 deck. Like turn series cloth deck. Like,
the the grinding stations is are always my
favorite kind of salad storms as well. So
this is... This incredibly cool. Yeah. I almost
I almost want like a second copy of
tenders of Agony in there, but it's probably
not good. Alright. It's it's rather the second
priority as well. Yeah. This is that course
I thinking. Yeah. You could. Like, it's probably
like a, like a win more maybe at
this point. But but but the play pattern
of this sex is really, like, very similar
to a to control that you you make
land drops. You cast dress downs and thought
enveloped of summer and all that sort of
enforce, of course, to cut them disrupt your
opponent, and then you and you land the
1 ring
and you After 2 turns, I wanna say,
your... You kinda go walk us. Your opponent
is completely out of out of gas, I
think after you force on this stuff.
Yeah. I think part of that, the beauty
is that's
unlike other draw engines and, like, these mid
range.
Wondering literally buys your turn. Right? The opponent
can do whatever they want the day, like
I don't know,
some kind of like, win the game effects.
Maybe. But other than that they have to
pass back to you and and then you
can go off again with the ring and
it's just Yeah. And you can even go.
It's annoying deck to play again. It's probably
also an an annoying deck to side again.
Especially since now there's also like creatures over
there, like we see 2 psychic frog to
shield to ak pump. Yeah.
An empty department. Okay.
I love... I I'm in love with this.
Thanks for pointing Out. I would have just
seen storm and I would've have kind of...
I probably looked it, and Would would've assumed
it's kind of, like, either at Echo Thing
or it's Or there's a there's a picture
of Sort of assume it's like kind of
anti. But this is what the old school
amp players wanna do. They wanna go misty
past or delta pass. That's the whole. That's
what they love. Whereas, I remember, like, Brian
cook is talking about the differences between the
2? He's like, why do you wanna just
mess around have Oh, my basic lands just
kill them, but I... The ant players always
like to have this kind of slightly control
element.
But could never... Mh. Quite good consuming deck
thing with fossil wheels and stuff. So... Yeah.
I mean, the 1 ring is just so
good in index with force will and
doug ritual I mean, we've seen Mark B
to this last year. Right? When he was
like Yeah. Getting top and Authorities he's, like,
it's been technical runs Doom. Yeah. His his
tech is... His deck is kind of the
kind of the same mix minus, the storm
spills and plus doom. I'd see playing the
series maybe.
But he would Add, like, a tundra and...
2 fe. Even if not 3. Yeah.
Very, very looking at the other other and
on the top, nothing's
3 6. Like, the controller was supposed to
be as like the the third place Right?
Control controller. Like I think it's
Just guy. Lot Laurent mentioned it on Twitter
that people should not play it.
He's not try it.
It it plays like fl, Titan of Fury
fires fury. But just like the kind of
card I've put off like, reading for a
long time because I was hoping it it's
not never gone. Hear. Lightning helix 0. Yeah.
So you need to know. Yeah. Oh, okay.
See that's now you me to put it.
Yeah. Like explorer I can work like. There
we go.
You know, they should they should, like, make
that, like, a keyword. Yeah Yeah. Like make
the the the whole mechanic of oral keywords.
Just like oral overall like, like, enough like
you you you can hear that and you
why literally actually read the card off.
My it's No. No no. Kite. That's 1
for.
Oh, sorry. Okay. Winning it then.
Also place like 3 copies of terminals. And
3 copies of wrath of the sky. The
tires meet must be a yuri. Yeah So
you're.
This is take no way around that. 6
sweep and fossil supplies now. Okay. You're in.
Here we go. 2 copies of fourth el
us throw back to a cart that used
to dominate legacy, which is, like, completely irrelevant
by now. Yeah. This hi flies guys. Okay
I don't know. As painter I data for
ceiling as every single time still against these
stupid control decks. Oh.
But I dude, honestly, I've been playing a
lot more paint again. Ever since like you
gave me the updated list.
I... I've been really enjoying it, like, I
haven't had a 5 an o yet, but
I've had a ton of foreign ones, Oh,
almost a time. I'm on this weird streak
where I am beating every single scan I
play almost, like,
yeah. But I'm really struggling with everything else.
So
Oh, I'm I it's with that stupid knicks
extra dominance, like, it's just like, it's not
worth fighting. Yeah. And whenever I face it
that just often loose. Like, that 1 of
the few ways that that they can actually
beat it. If they got down to 1,
they I have to lie the bottom hands
and it's just like, a, how. You go.
I've totally given up on it. Like, if
they... Yeah. I think even with side cards,
so It's still like... If 2 and 4
2 and 5 against it. While I was
trying to beat it, and it more popular.
Now it's just not popular enough and whatever.
What I like about the way you've currently
built the the deck is u you have
a lot, like, a lot of graveyard just
hate in the main deck. I think, like,
by now we are playing, like, 2 copies
of unlicensed terms. Yes.
That's a 1 off.
Solar lantern and I... There might even be
something like That's just it. But the horses
are really really strong at the moment. Oh,
there's so copies of Fairy Mac carbon the
side point of smile. Yeah. Yeah There's 2
fairy just because I I was always late
on 3 or 4, but I found that
I only ever wanted to bring in 2
again the scam decks, and there's not enough
on the Graveyard decks, and the hosts can
just steal gear ones against any of them
as well. So... Yeah.
So... And to finish that but but,
what I like is,
those cards they kinda give your fighting chance
against them animating, you know, something big,
whereas the the grief thing, you you can't
always stop that, especially on the draw, but
you also have, like 2 to 3 copies
of lightning both. Mh So you can try
to make sure that you don't die to
because, like the race is a a serious
thing, especially in ancient tum tag. And that
way,
it's it's kinda like it's
rather balanced, like rather well constructed in that
regard, and I agree I I don't feel
that match up all that much yearly. Yeah.
Because I...
Well, as in Italy, I kind of found
myself with bit of time just to play
around stuff. So I did... I did their
a ton.
I'm just gonna make a movie out if
you like you pray love. Yeah. But I...
Yeah. You... All these all the numbers kinda
like came from just playing a bunch, not
just thinking about it too much. But I'm,
I don't know. It's
It feels smooth and good now, but I'm
trying some other things. Like,
I went for 1 a leaked today with
2 fable and 2 imp recruiters.
Wow. And, last from the 3 golden Welder
because I mean, just to share thoughts like
Goblin World feels pretty hated out because a
lot of Beaumont is still and Da void
walkers.
And I'm siding out all the welder and
the to father her against scam currently. So
went down to 3 welder just because
There's just a lot of graveyard heat as
well from other decks like what we're doing
with this with the hears. It it also
doesn't like, feel feel like a big deal.
Right? Yeah. I don't really you don't I
need the graveyard order much against. That kind
of it here.
1 thing I wanna mention is like, I've
see a lot of muscles in side of
those these days. Yeah. And I... There's still
some main index step at the motion the
side was people do have been bringing it.
So sometimes and I'm always citing the world
is out now even if not. Because there's
just Doubt in every single 1. And every
single one's bringing in 3 or 4 Dart
avoid workers again you. And then it's just...
Not Always. Yeah. Mh So...
Yeah. So my I think is that, you
know, if you've got 4 engineer, and then
they've got some da or even on cars
that are kind of like that and whatever.
So the fable are amazing, but I didn't
want to have more 3 drops in the
deck. And I wanted to try
a couple of imperial just because I wanted
to make his main deck again because Meg
is is incredibly well positioned at the moment,
plus
most because of like the El dr deck
and post, but it is very good It
gets all the blue black decks even if
they have 2 basics. And then,
the other thing was with playing, like, 7
blasts in the main deck and I've got
the eighth in the side, what even because
how good frog is who so... The deck
that's so good. Like a... When you add
the eighth 1 to the sai. I was
like, said really nothing better. And then when
when I keep playing it, I'm, like 2
times so happy. Yeah. That's.
You literally use... Sometimes can actually it up
on a baby. They're like, they don't have
the blast they, and then they, like, this
cut it a frog like,
they do. Yeah. They actually have 2 blasts
Fuck.
You just have to always have the blast
and I haven't found that you can really
have too many in that much up now,
even though they, like, the troll is a
thing, but with 2 fairies and 2 horses
anything you can get around it. And so
also with the deck, leaning on the blast
more. I just... I want to be like
old painter and I want to have painter
play all the time. So that's yeah, that's
the thinking for 2 imperial recruiters because they're
just more painters rather than 2 fable.
That's why Thinking. It's... They've been too slow
just in the league today. I didn't really
use them very much. But,
I know. It's cool. It's and I've I
did the third grain just because, you know,
you're trying to comb more. I'm not sure
about that. But that's that's the next thing.
I'm trying out, but, yeah. The deck is
going back to more old school on red
painter I think just because of how the
meta gamers is, but we'll see.
I guess the imperial recruiters aren't expensive anymore.
Right? They used to be tied for, like,
the most expensive card. Legacy I can see,
Like, Yeah. Wrong before the water. Yeah. No.
No. They're very cheap. Now. They're in,
2 of the master sets Think like, because
I, yeah, million.
Okay. Man, but, you know, like, 1 card
you you might wanna consider is mass hysteria.
1 Red banana all just the paste. I'm
telling you I dude that will boost your
deck up to, like, next year. You know
that's 1 problem with my hysteria,
it's A word trump so you cannot code
your upon never void with it.
Yeah. Yeah.
No. Yeah. Rub against pox Oh, man. There
was even a Pox player in France. Oh,
my goodness. Bad was. Yeah. Yeah. Do. I
I saw I saw I saw Parks action
and Pax also, I think Pax was also
won over
ass res 1 game did that literally made
my day. Oh, my goodness. That was so
good. That was so good. It's like you...
That that that meme of of of, the
guy in Batman like, No. No. Not bad,
man. It's Watch man. You are trapped in
here with me as the Pax almost like
Charm 1, a small box smallpox you out
of this world.
Oh, man dude. Yeah. Never another void for
the wind for that card.
Dude love that 1. By the way, in
speaking of new actually know. The this case,
it's it's literally new cards. There's this
blue red energy deck that... I thought it
was like a thinner thing.
But you t actually, make it... Made second
place in a recent challenge with it. It's
it's not even anything... It's the modern horizons
cards.
Oh, is it is it like I just
remember, like, the, like, energy being a thing
instead, like, 10 years ago or something. So
so in my head is always like that.
And basically, this is like a bluer red
tempo deck, but it doesn't play. Like the
creatures of choice are a for Language chandler
for Tam and christ student, which by the
way, it became on legacy mains state. I
wanna say by now kinda. I'm... I can
see that. I'm still bit un convinced. Like,
it's been played a lot and it's good.
I think Was too low on it by
still think it's just fine. Oh, I think
it's gonna go away.
I think
it will slowly. Gets it it gets the
right out what. Right? That that's what we
call it kind of the kind of card.
Yeah. Like where it shows up product, like
half a year then it never shows break
up again. That's kinda of my guess. I
think it is better, and it has its
spots, and it is sometimes really really good.
Like... We have 1 of the clips into
our planes soccer. That that lot. Like, that's
pretty decent. I just...
I just haven't been super impressed with it.
It may be because I'm playing the deck
with 8 p blasts. But.
I'll be I'll be playing with it in
some temporary at the beginning when winter horizon
came out as well, and it didn't fit
tempo in my experience. You don't want to
be daisy wanna be having Google lens, you
wanna be playing control deck. So
there's some, like, bug control decks, which are
basically just like anti scan with a rose
and blue black good cards and stuff, and
they have Tam, and I think she's quite
good there.
So I I just think doesn't really fit
the Timber super well. Cool. To go into
why this second is actually called Energy. So
there's a couple of synergies in here. The
first 1 is,
I guess the most basic 1 tune the
narrative,
which is for 1 blue
instant draw card. I guess we used to
call that. What's the card?
Dick... No, dig into the abyss. No. The
that was the cycle of like, 3 cards
that you play and eventually you get this
child comedy. Unspeakable. That was pinned to the
abyss.
That was the 1 that was played to
the storm in modern, but... Yeah. Yeah. So
this 1 draws a card and you get
2
which is like just like 2 energy counters.
Then you got Ga discharge, which I believe
you actually talked about for paint around. Yeah.
So yeah. Be this is this is like,
1 red, you get 3 energy, and then
you can spend any energy. 1. It deals
that might damage the creature or planes or
I.
This is late, especially good when format has,
like, frog control and stuff and big creatures
because you can pay the tune the narrative
of get too energy, and then you play
a discharge on the frog. And you only
spend the energy on resolution of the spell.
So, like, they need to give it 6
tough then...
Otherwise You... Otherwise, it's just there. So then
they don't give it 6 difference because they
have to discard 4 cards probably, and then
you can just spend 2 in kill it.
And then you've got Like 3 leftover for
the next 1.
What I really liked about it is you
do need to play these kind of other
enabler cards and some of the things give
you an energy, but, like It's also lay
a way to spend
a way to kill the troll. It's like
a bolt as well. The downside obviously it
doesn't go to the face, but
I don't know how often bulbs even go
to the face these. Is everything's trying to
play this game where you kill creatures you
gotta kill the grief and the Delphi and
the tam years on the frogs and everything.
So...
Yeah.
There's I don't know if you guys, watch
what's the the recent quote tour, but there
was there was this Jessica control act by
Javier Dom until he... And was...
This was the prime report spell in that
deck.
Next to the best spell in the format
now.
And I think, like, everyone seems so up.
Set because there was so user lightning bolt
being, like, a removal spell and then, you
know, ga discharge kinda
over road lightning bolt, in in control deck,
obviously, you don't wanna be yeah players. But
but, yeah, this old guy... This card also
kids plans focus and creatures and that that's
all you wanna do in a control deck.
For temple,
Man, like, you know, like, like, delve... Like,
blind flip delve into, like, like, 4 attacks
plus double I think Both that. Like, those
games don't happen very often these things. I
think we don't because this is little removal
around.
U. It's interesting you say this is good
against Sp has now that you explain it.
Actually, it makes a lot sense to me.
Because initially to me, I thought oh this
is good and there's like tons of smart
creatures because then you get to... Save some
of the energy for, like, later on when
you need it for... Yeah. Here's the flexibility.
It's not especially good against big creatures because
sometimes you'll use 2 bolts particular tequila a
big creature.
But, like, when you go tune the narrative
than this charge or there's another card unstable.
I mean, which has been pretty impressive, which
is, like... Yeah. See... I thought that was
the payoff. It kind of is, but then
they work together. So, like, you know, sometimes
you need to kill a 5 tough creatures.
You'll play the amulet and then you'll play
a discharge. And, yeah, you're using 2 cards
do it It's not like a good way,
but you have flexibility in these options to
do it. If you need... If you don't
need an removal cell, you can just use
a discharge to get some my energy for
the amulet, whatever.
I think these... Like, this so this built
has 3 amulet,
4 discharges and 2 tune narrative.
Seems
Like, you want 1 other payoff potentially, it's
it's hard to say, like,
I guess with ponder and brain storms, you
can just find the other things? Or do
they have... Yeah, they have those?
So. I mean, the amoled is kinda cool.
I'm, like, like, not really convinced of it.
It's an artifact, the color in the red.
When it comes to the play you get
too energy and then can tap it and
pay to energy excel Pop library and you
may play it. Mh
Until you exile another cardiff. I mean, let's...
So at any point. Even if they kill
it, you still can Yeah. Yeah. Which is
cool. And then losses us that triggered ability,
whenever you cast a spare from anywhere other
than your hands, the amoled deals 1 damage
to each opponent, and I guess that triggers
on on actually on the cards you exile
with
Yeah. Said it? I think so.
I think in this. Yeah. But
The the other card that's played in modern,
I tried in painters apt raptor, which is,
like, 1 a red. It's like a shard
It's like 1 the red for A21 first
strike. And when you... When Et b's, if
you cast from your hand, you get... When
et get to an energy, and then if
you cost it from your hand, you basically
reveal cards them to library till you're real
a non land card, and you can cast
that be up to pay lng equal to
Manor cost. Oh, it's hot. Yeah. So it's
pretty good. But like, what I found is
it's nice to be a kinda do a
Charlotte impression, but paint tears to me active
of cards. And this here, you don't being
force wheels and days and stuff. So
legacy is probably just a bit too reactive
to fit that in. And the 2 1
is just like whatever.
Yeah. Especially not, a Beaumont.
Actually, we keep calling at the Biomass I
really. I don't really feel like I'm limited
by Beaumont at too. All that march and
Mars is just a cyber at the moment.
I think.
Yeah. Which is yeah. Wild.
Frog. It's it's frog world. I'm glad we
talked better on our preview.
Okay.
There's another exciting bag that I actually recently
played because drum rolls
There's proper combo again.
And a that actually made top far in
a challenge, and, you know, Test tac friend
of the show has been working on this.
And he he he released, but he got
a primer for me it's more like a
development diary. Like, he lists all different versions
and the changes he made and, like, what
he learned from from all the different steps.
So we're definitely gonna link that in the
show notes, and I had so much fun
playing it. I was by the by the
way, we're gonna link the V where I
plated it through a leak to get off
my friend, Kevin. At dude Youtube, like, I'm...
I'm a relative small Youtuber. But relative to
the other stuff I sometimes out there,
Youtube went ballistic, they were or or rather,
like, they they were all about that. They...
They... I don't know. People trust they wanna
see me playing, I have some... Even though
it's been so many years. It's just like,
okay, Judy. Do the trick. And I'm like,
okay. That there must be like when you
know when you're an artist. And you had
that 1 song 500 years ago Yeah. And
then, like, to this day, when they come
to your concert, all they wanna hears, like,
using in that song. You're like I again?
25 other songs right now.
Do the thing. Do okay. You not that
meme of bart sitting in the classroom bart,
do the thing. Sad Santos and like Okay.
I'm gonna But the thing is I enjoyed
it so much. I enjoyed it so much.
It finally felt, like Proper combo again. And
the... Of course, they're made It works you're
not playing Glimpse anymore, you're playing Na. And
that is just like completely broken that deck.
It's just it's not even funny anymore.
And that's a fun. Yeah. So
nice.
K. Maybe, check me. Maybe we wanna quick
quickly explain like what. I don't want, I
don't want to explain it.
No.
We don't do that on this podcast forecast.
That's what the news media is far. Right?
I'm I'm trying I I'll explain myself. You
know, I I have of cal client. Actually
what else the that you can do, guys?
Have you targets creatures. Dust off you. Yeah.
Dust off your... That's how it works. Of
taken.
Minus claims plus Na. That's it.
B bills much fine.
Yeah. The thing is like you've you've Korean
ranger your fired Same. You can activate those
like, on your turn on the opponent's turn.
It's the department just, like, literally has to
deal with Na and then it's still terrible
for them, and they... Honestly, they ended up
losing to natural order, basically every single time
just because, I mean, that's that's half how
it works. Right? You either... You respect 1
of the 3 aspects of F, which is
like, combo, natural order or be down. And
then, like, 1 of the other 2 k
like. It's very much for like that. It
it does look like old elves. It's it's
really cool. All it it was just a
not draw cards, just to put them straight
into hand.
Oh, yeah. The... Yeah. Yeah.
So yeah, definitely check it out if you
wanna watch some of the apps, and I'll
check out the sa
development diaries slash primer. Off the deck end
and how how it's making progress.
And, yeah. It's not just like something we
do for fun. It actually already has put
up sides since, you know, who knows how.
What I I've got 1 question.
Yeah. Why is B build the best guide
in the deck?
Oh, dude... I I believe we changed it
we tried to change your name because the
kind is... Bill spine over.
Yeah.
I don't remember what we call it, but...
So that guide is
kinda of weird because, like, it gives you
the mid range
advantage,
but it also like you can go because
it keeps target. Yeah. It keeps targeting your
own creativity and stuff.
So it it's a combo piece that you
feel like you don't really need, but I
mean, a I lot of times It... It's
basically like a 2 month version of I
wanna say Rents run, Pac master. Like, that
that mid range thing where people are like,
why is this there? Just Range should range?
And gives me nightmares as an old
shutter chavez player. Yeah. Yes. Detective couldn't kill
it. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
It's literally where I put it that. Oh
my god it's literally shocked. When you cast
a pack master and you tuck a like,
Elvis vision under it? Story.
Back when legacy was a bit low power
level.
But but when of the entire deck in
your head, maybe you could deal with us.
My tech was to add 2 december. Oh,
yeah. But that car only? You just bite
the bullet. Right?
Oh, dude Laughed that so much occurred. Oh,
so cool.
Guys before we close today's show out, I
mean, we are not really gonna get to
the tower Ban Grief on Pan Reef. Like,
I think it's
kind of like expected my price when... We're
just gonna get bad next month. We're thinking
the... I feel like there's enough like, community
defer between modern with Na, which... Whether at
needs ben or not is I'm not really
commenting on, but, you know, something you step
in legacy.
The I think the, like, a emergency kind
of change or something is quite possible. It's
it's a bit of ko. It's a bit
of rumor. It's just a bit of, like,
everyone's saying it's gonna happen. But I think
there's a chance, whether that's before we go
to impact returns in 2 weeks, who knows.
I don't know.
Thing it's like I don't Don't really think
that they're gonna do an emergency banning just
because the negative is not the kind of
format that needs that. Like emergency banning is
really just like before a approach I would
guess. It feels like quite a free way
for them to just get the communities be
back on their side. Like, it's pretty clear
what otherwise. Okay. Yeah. Like, everyone's just saying
just just get this grief card out of
our format. And then we can see where
things go and then you can have a
look at it in August like you said.
But later, it's really. From the other side
of it, like, I think like some of
the high ups and and results... I mean,
I don't know if they're getting involved from
these kind of decisions, but they would probably
be more like, oh, no. Emergency always like,
that's a bad word We we don't want
the emergencies in our game. We have, like,
sketch announce. That's fine. You can also... Yeah.
Just work it very differently. You can, like,
look. We've heard the community. We've seen the
numbers
1 3 has been out for x amount
of time, which is usually a bit less
time than we'd like to see if things
shake out, but clearly, nothing is changing legacy.
At this time we'll take action here, and
we hope to see some changes by August
or whatever. You're gonna make you're gonna make
a constructive chest. Yeah. Exactly. There we go.
They can hide
follow. Yeah. Hope dude.
Oh, man. I think... Like, the the poor
performer panel is that they they are very
open about things. They they can just be
like, look, okay. We should banned it, and
let's just do it now. I mean, they
even banned the card before it came out
yeah in the lost set. Yeah.
Say.
Quick stats that we just got why we
were recording. We already saw that in the
Showcase challenge 200
players. They for 6 copies of blue black
in the top 08:17 out 32 in top
32. 70 and out of 32, That's like
53
percent holy shit. Oh, goodness. That's just like
something else. I've also got... So Stefan is
mental, Stefan Sc. He top forward. Oh, yeah.
Came second in the Swiss 8 1. He
topped forward and I've got his his path
to the top 4. Round 1, El,
run 2 ben breakfast,
round 3 scam, run 4 scam, run 5
scam. Around 6 scam. Ra 7, turbo 4
8 scam, 9 scam quarter final scam, semi
final scam.
Oh, my goodness.
Honestly the at third point you might just,
like, pre board. I'm really sure like, how
you pay scams and 3 other.
Yeah. I saw like Jp was opposed something
like, he... He's in the top. I think
he also said, like, he's just about blade
9 rounds and, like, 6 or 7 where
like, scan and then the top 8 get.
Just... Yeah. In the top end he played
against Game right. Right? He actually played again
I against stephan fun. Yeah. Think ever be
close Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I was watching
Canister and Deceive stream, and they were both
playing scam, and they I think between them,
I watched them till they both got about
3332
or something. I only remember 1 of them
playing against 1 non scam deck out of
it as well.
Like. So here I'm gonna shout out, Mark
D playing 8 key
products engine
into the top 8. And
tuna
soon now.
I think. Yeah that that makes it lot
more sense.
Playing playing green post fast and into... That
is
incredibly powerful and...
Yep. Yeah. Call that doesn't play Elvis clay
anymore, which which has got a little bit
Surprising given they help powerful and replace Built
around place with
2 car and ring.
And so you can never do that with
reclaim unless you have, like... It's kind of
the very. Yeah crops. And also also, like,
It broke and broke my heart to see
that. There's no prime titan in in neck
anymore?
That was nice. But
props to true features for, like, just completely
gut the deck and making. Basically, making something
new, but it's it's now like the D
facto cloud poster. Great. Like, I love seeing
toward.
Like, a deck specialist just does this. Turns
upside down and... Yeah. It's amazing. It's so
powerful.
But you know, like, man, Like the this...
This kinda really brings me back to, like,
Tony Mu, who I haven't... I'm seen the
recently on magic online about but, like, he
kept using the same 75
for, like,
multiple years and months,
like, you didn't
care what the format does, you know, if
it's a Lu format or
express situation or any other legacy probably, he
just kept grinding his exact same 75.
So that's like dude... That's like a special
award I think. He does do well as
well, though. Yeah.
Yeah. If we just don't adapt,
but...
Guys. I I could even wanna hear your
opinion on on 1 more thing before we
close it out and that was this announcement
that kind of made waves on basically Twitter
and reddit it about the old game
all center games
canceling their 5 k literally because of grief.
So the statement basically comes down to,
due to the current state of legacy in
the sentiment of local and regional players, our
event a likely to not live up to
the expectations that previous events have set for
quality, competitiveness in the attendance.
That's why we have decided to cancel the
event this time.
What do you think? I I think it's
a really poor argument. And
in especially in paper magic, there's
the majority of players are there with the
Pet. And
they just wanna jam. They Like, I I
saw it last weekend in in France to
that... Like, there was this
waste not plus,
what's it called burning inquiries
rack
nonsense deck, you know, like... And, like, and
the this guy had the had had the
best time in
come compared to everyone else, you know? And,
like, you gotta you gotta give those charge
his pox and
sliver
has the chance to to show up and
place on magic. Yeah. I think he because
if... This Breakers if if people end up
having a good time, doesn't really matter what
for the final record is like the event
was already a success, I think.
So,
like, you are gonna have the 10 percent
of, of spiky
skip res players. But there's
there will always be the best deck in
the format, and
I have to agree, but also at the
same time, I think this is 1 of
the worst points I've seen legacy.
Especially with play satisfaction stuff. But
I don't know. I think this is, you
know, it's it's an excuse because ticket sales
are probably low and they expect, attendance below
and they don't wanna lose money, which I
think is quite fair. And, like the format
is bad, and if they've had their customers
say, hey, I just don't really wanna play
at the moment. Maybe listen their feedback. I
don't wanna just assume that we know that
they're just letting you know trying to
make money blah blah, but Yeah. I don't
know if if you'll if you're breakeven or
make a bit of money, I think you
can run your events and people will be
happy. But we don't... Without But, this statement
doesn't really tell me about these
these position they're in, so I don't really
know. Yeah. I'm pretty much... With you guys
on that, that I believe, it would be
completely reasonable to outright and say, hey, I
don't think this event is gonna be popular
enough for us to make sense to run
it. I congrats like ticket sales, and I
I totally back them on that, especially, like
right now.
But
this feels like, I've kind of, like
Weird had reason that maybe it's just like
being put up
Cost. I've got the statement now, It says,
due to the current state of legacy and
the sentiment of local and regional legacy players
our event is likely not to live up
to expectations, pre events set for quality competitors
and attendance.
Like... Okay. They mentioned attendance. Yeah. So they've
set attendance and also, like, I've not heard
of Val century games, but they... They may
be very tune with their local community and
their local community has said,
we are not that interested in it right
now. And then if that's the reason, absolutely
fair enough. And, yeah, as as you said,
and I agree, like, if they're gonna have
lower
attendance than usual, Yeah. Just just wait it
out. I thought. I think I think either
way it's fair. I'm kind of... I don't...
I'm not massively into some of the reasons
they put out there. Feels like a bit
of too much information, too much excuses when
just the basics is necessary, But, hey. It's
more information it's being open about it. I
mean, to be fatal that that the statement
is, like, pretty long and they're go into
more details about that.
The... It's just, like, bold that part of
that's why we have decided to cancel whether
the time right after the... Okay. The... Okay.
Gotta give them that the at the part
of bottle 10. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.
It's... Yeah. It is
they they say in place of our 5
k, we're hosting our typical legacy monthly event.
Mh. So... Mh.
That the actually the thing that didn't sit
right with me more than their reasoning was
c people using this to, like,
walk up to and be like see what
you're doing to the format. I don't think
this is like big or relevant enough to,
like she like make the kind of argument.
Like, no offense to always gaming. I think
that they also know that. They don't wanna
be used. That way?
It it it would be pushing it to
say, hey, results the the damage due to
legacy because of grief. I don't know. I
think that would be too. Like, III like
when people make arguments
in favor of something I agree with, but
I don't like when people make arguments
that I don't agree with even though it's
in favor of something I agree because I
think that it damages matches the the entire
arguments idea and go when when you use
arguments that the flawed. And... Yeah. I've I've
seen people like, posters at wizards results all
the time, and I'm like, yeah, I don't
think you should. Mh.
So anyway, guys,
we see each other
towards the end of the month in a
beautiful
not alright. Cannot wait in
yeah. Can't. Stayed against. Gonna be the first
time for for Callum. Right?
We have been Spain before, but not to
the area.
Yeah. Oh, yeah. For you. Feel.
Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah Exactly. Yep. Yep. So
can,
only figure out gonna play paint. Alright? And
we also figured out you're not qualified for
the Spanish. Yes. I checked it. Yeah. Like,
I kept... Talking to doodle it would be
so amazing if you came Spanish champion though.
I wanna like you're the finals. And then
I at some point, you were like, treating.
I I don't think I'm Spanish. I'm like
great you're not.
I couldn't be who he knows He knows,
but Do you're you could be. Right? Like,
you you you could do 1 of those
American tests that that tells you, like, you
2 percent Spanish and just was like, all
of a sudden, you show up and you'd
start dancing the flame and everything, like, Sure.
Come.
Actually, for that day, though,
I'm look... We're we're looking for a modern
player or a pre modern player for The
teams, if anyone out there is listening and
is going and wants to play 1 of
his formats for the Friday teams. I'll be
there with my friend, Jamie. He wants play
legacy
I'm open to modern or pre modern. I'm
gonna bring pre modern. So if if I
need to play modern, I need to find
a deck or borrow a deck. But... Okay.
But you would be able to supply our
prem modern deck? Yes.
Which kind of effect with the.
It's not that's the best thing actually. Right?
It's pretty good. And I absolutely door playing
it and, yeah, I've got it.
We love that. Dude. So hit Hit up
on this discord on Twitter at Eternal Mt
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terrible name kinda in a different 1 and
somehow. I actually re rebranded my my Instagram.
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Instagram that you could not come up with
a verse name,
then the 1 I used to have on
my Instagram, and I realized that when I
was in in Greece. Like, I was doing,
like, like,
kite surfing photography and people are kept asking
me for my Instagram. And I kept saying
it I I was like, This is the
worst thing to ever say because I kept
telling them, oh, it's Shooting 023,
and they wouldn't go like... It's 02:53. And
Null 023 and and then never go like
02:02 3 because I said it's... So I
have to say it's it's 2 2 that's,
I thought it's good cool. Like, when I...
Like, literally be been
11 years, I put it's before my name
because it's chewed in it's so cool. Is
it?
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yeah.
Sorry God. Yes.
Never ever do that to your name because
you can never say, hey, my nickname. It's
Julian. No. It's it's Julian and people are,
like, let's see, like, some have like, speech
and petting and
it's like... Yeah. Never... So I changed it.
To the best thing you could come up
with, like I spend an entire evening, trying
to come up with the best kind of
Instagram I could get for myself. And you
know what it is Actually I forgot.
God.
No I'm pretty I'm I'm pretty sure... Ever
by car member.
It's julian dot k.
But I can't believe that was still a
still the problem of saying it's it's...
Yeah. It it's it's true. No. No now
it's just like, no. It's... Truly dot k.
Super except for k. Okay. I gotta get
married to to get, make something easy to
pronounce. So, like, what what what's the most
easily understood,
Like, I guess like Lee, Everybody knows like
how Leigh Takes spot with 2 e. No.
You either the tum years or an not.
I was I was really hoping for that
Mac. I was gonna say a say.
Yeah. I put below 2000 much easier than...
It's just 3000?
No one's gonna ask how to to spell
Mag was... Mentioned, like, you you actually at
some point, like, in my
future that I'm never gone on chief. I
become, like, a professional photographer, and, like, people
come up to me and they they asked
for my insta. That was And I'm like,
yeah, sure. And I'm sitting there, like, with
my, you know, 25000
dollar lands and everything. And I had... I...
I'm, like, it's Magna.
20 thousands.
That's j. Yeah. Been.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay. That's gonna be my future. I'm gonna
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