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Welcome back to another Share light episode. And
as I've mentioned before, it's been a while
since I've done 1 of these, but I'm
I'm excited to be back in the saddle
with this. This is an opportunity for us
to showcase people in our listening audience who
are
really stepping into their power, their light, their
purpose. They're here to make a difference and
really do the work that resonates with who
they are.
And
today's guest is is actually exe exemplified that
beautifully. Her name is staff, and it's steph
Camille.
Steph is the host of medium in the
middle podcast.
She's a Rei master teacher, a spiritual and
business mentor, a psych k facilitator,
an intuitive psychic medium and an all around
energy enthusiasts.
She's based out of Bam, Alberta, and
and she offices services
virtually and in person and. So welcome Steph,
and thank you so much for doing this
with me today. Thanks, Denise. I appreciate you
having me on. Yeah. And this is... So
we have a lot of mediums that listen.
We have a lot of intuitive.
But what I love is
steph. And I mean this above in compassion
is relatively young and has really stepped into
her business with a passion.
Her service work is incredible.
So could you tell us a little bit
about how you started your business and what
led you to becoming an intuitive medium?
Oh, yes.
So I did start young, and I do
feel very grateful that I was able to
step into this. I get told that all
the time. So I started when I was
around 28 years old.
And I took a Rei course and then
weird things started happening, and then I took
Rei level 2, and more things started happening.
And that's really when my mediums ship ability
started to open up, but I always joke
that you don't realize your medium and Tlc
calls you with the show ready to go.
You have to do a lot of development,
so it took me a few years to
really get it under wraps to feel like
I had my boundaries.
And then it wasn't until
Covid happened.
I was working at a restaurant, and I
was side hustling for years always doing Ricky
on my days off, always doing things,
whether it was sub leasing, working at spas,
working out of my home.
But then when I was
working in a restaurant, and I lost my
job,
I was like, okay, What can I do
now? And I had a podcast medium in
the middle podcast.
So I had been doing the podcast for
about a year and people were always asking
for distance Rei and virtual services.
And then Covid kinda gave me the opportunity
to figure out how I could go virtual.
So I spent hours and hours
trying to figure it out and building a
website and testing it and having control groups
and testing it on people that I didn't
know and seeing if it worked.
And then I launched my business in 20
20,
and it went off, and I thought it
was because of Covid and everyone told me
when people go back to work, your business
is going to die when people go back
to work, your business is going to die.
And then
somehow, year over year, we grow and grow
and grow, and it put me full time
within, like, 6 months.
And then I am now just trying to
find the balance in year 5
of
working 6 days a week, 7 days a
week, 5 days a week trying to figure
out days off.
So that's really what happened is we... I
lost my job, and I was stuck at
home and people were asking, and I said,
okay. Let me figure out how to do
distance, Ricky. Let me figure out how to
teach online. Let me figure out all of
these things. And when school and university went
virtual, I was like, okay. If people are
learning how to be a doctor online,
I can teach Rei online, and I can
figure out what we need and what we
need to accommodate. So, yeah, that's
what threw me into it was losing my
job.
But I love that because it's divine orchestrated,
and you're able to reach so many more
people, than you ever would have been able
to reach just in your immediate geographical area.
And I always joke and I say that
Rei is a gateway drug for a lot
of people to open up to other modalities.
And you and I've chatted about this before
that Rei is really...
That's your love. I mean, you're you're
very very good at all your other modalities,
but your number 1 is so could you
talk a little bit about why Rei really
resonates with you as a practice?
Oh, yes. I also say Ricky is a
gateway drug. That's so far.
I think Ricky resonates me so much because
I always like to explain it to my
students and anyone that will listen to me
Yammer about it.
It's the awareness that Rei brings
So I always like to say that energy
healing is, like a new set of glasses
where you start to understand your body, you
start to understand your
energy you start to think like, oh, yeah.
How often do I get these headaches? How
often is my stomach upset? Why does my
right hip hurt when did my right hips
start hurting.
So I love Rei because of the awareness
that it brings into our own bodies
And I find that now we're so fast.
The life is moving fast. We're doing so
many things that we forget about our... I
always call your own body your home.
And we all need to start at home.
We can't run out and clean someone else's
house before our own house is clean.
So I just love Ricky you so much
because of the awareness and because we can
work on ourselves.
And because the more you work with it,
the better and better you become I always
compare it to riding a bike.
We all start with our little tricycle, and
then we get 2 wheels, and then we
have your training wheels, and then do we
move up from there. And eventually, you're riding
your bike drinking a coffee, talking to your
friend on the phone, waving even at the
neighbors and you forgot what It was like
when you were on a tricycle.
But we all start off on the tricycle,
like, it's universal, and, yes, some people go
faster than others,
but I love it because of the awareness
that it rings. And then once you have
those awareness glasses on,
you can never take them off. You can
never... Oh, I don't wanna know anymore. I
don't wanna be aware anymore. Oh, I don't
wanna pay attention to my energy anymore. And
I think
being aware of your energy is just
So so so important, and it makes life
so easy and fast. And that's why I
love Rei as well because I always want
people's lives to be easier and faster.
We don't have to take months or years
to learn a lesson. We don't have to
take months or years to figure out what
are the alarm bells of our body are
trying to tell us.
So,
yeah, I could go on on but why,
I love you So I think those are
the top for sure top reasons.
When there seem to be 2 schools of
thought with Bra. I've always when I was
trained with Break, I was taught that I
was a vessel and a conduit for healing
to come through me not from me which
is something that I've applied to all of
my work over the years.
And other folks feel that it's coming from
their source light. Which when you do your
trainings, which I know you have several coming
up. Do you... How do you...
What is your modality? How do you tell
people to? To. Yes. We are the conduit
do it. So I definitely agree with you.
We are the extension cord.
So I always like to explain we plug
to Ra, and then we plug to wherever
we're going. Nothing is being taken from you,
Nothing is coming from you. You aren't being
drained.
We are just the vessel.
So, yeah, We definitely learn and teach under
that school of thought.
And 1 thing that I... People will want
a Zoom caller, they'll want, you know, a
regression or the want something.
Virtually, and again, Covid did open up the
world for all of us.
Do you physically feel a difference
when you're doing distance rei versus when you're
doing Rei in person? Because you're right in
someone's work field when you're working with them
personally, or does it feel the same for
you?
I it does feel different.
When I do distance,
I have to connect
much stronger in person, I can touch you
and connect with distance, you really have to
go in and form that bond.
So there's some things that my body does
when I'm connecting distant to let me know
that I am connected, so I do this
like, weird yawn thing.
And when I disconnect, it feels different.
But it is the same results. I've had
people do in person and distance, and it's
the same experience for them, so which is
really nice to hear, minus my hands touching
you. And I do kind of prefer distance
because I can work a lot faster.
I don't have to move a chair around
your body. I don't have to walk from
head to your toes and your toes to
your belly and your belly to your toes
and your toes to your head
takes minutes.
So I always say I probably get between
4 and 7 more minutes of actual ra
key in a distant session because there's not
the formalities of you laying down on the
table. You taking off your coat. You putting
back on your c. Are you leaving all
those things.
So,
yeah, It's it is a little bit different
for me, but I do like that
once I'm in, my process is the same
whether I'm in person, whether I'm distance.
I still do my same process. It just
feels a little bit different because I am
connecting
quite deeply with distance.
I love that because it it's also everything
is vibration and energy, so you can send
that always equate it to, you know, sound
waves. It's gonna still get to where it's
going. But being able to direct that energy
to someone and then on the receiving end.
So...
That's a really really nice description that you
gave. Thank you. And that you you're saying
that you use your body as you call
it home. And I always our body as
a barometer. So when you feel things when
you're doing distance rei you or doing Rei
someone. Do you physically feel in your body?
What is in... Like, how are you drawn
to where to really direct your energy? Yeah.
So when I work decently, I use my
body as a surrogate. So I kind of
imagine that I'm putting on, like, a wet
suit that's your energy. So from my toes
up, I kind of imagine I'm going into
Denise, so I'm... I'm denise. I'm Denise. I'm
Denise from my toes to my head. And
then as soon as I'm fully in your
energy, I do a scan, and that's when
I'm like, oh, what's going with your shoulder.
Oh, and what happened to your knee And
oh, Have you broken your collar 3 times.
Then at the end of the session, I
peel off your suit, and I push you
away and I disconnect, and now I am
stuff again. So, yeah, I imagine that my
body becomes your body, and then I work
on my body
because it's yours.
So I do like the surrogate method when
I do distance Rei, but there's lots of
ways that you can do distance Rei, and
I always try to stress you have to
find the way that's easiest for you.
For me, I have to do it on
a video call. I find it that's the
easiest way. And before we begin, I ask
you I asked to see you from your
head to your toes. So you have to
show me your hands, and you have to
show me your toes. But it just helps
me connect to your energy so much faster
if I can do a scan with my
eyes. And then once I'm into your energy,
my eyes are closed, you lay down
and we're in, but some people connect on
the phone. Some people connect with voice. Some
people connect with a photo. Some people use
a surrogate teddy bear
So whenever I'm teaching distance, Ricky, I give,
like, 14 different options of how you can
connect distant instantly.
And I always say, try everyone and see
what you like best, and then try everyone
again and make sure that whatever way is
easiest for you is the easiest way for
you.
That's excellent advice because that applies to all
any other work you're going to do Based
on intuition or mediums ship or connection is
finding the way that it works best for
you. I I agree with you a hundred
percent on that.
And
really, really good point that you made about
making sure you connect from the person that
you're working with when you finish, and even
though you're being a conduit for healing energy,
if you're stepping into my virtual Or field,
by by doing this process, then you're going
to have to step out of it or
there's gonna keep a connection. And I think
a lot of times people forget you have
to disconnect with any of the work that
you're doing. Yeah. It's the most important step.
So you... That feels I can feel your
passion for this, your level of experience and
expertise,
and you So you were doing Rei people
and then you started to get more
intuitive hits and more medium ship hits during
a a Rei session, which I think happens
for a lot of people. Mh. Yeah opens
that door up.
Yeah. It is very common. And I think
because Ricky gets you into that space of
neutral of nothingness. You're letting the energy flow.
You aren't thinking about your laundry list. You
have to buy eggs. You'd pick up the
kids at 04:00.
Your mind should be clear when you're working,
It allows for everything else to drop in,
and
we know with all spiritual work. You need
that clear mind. You cannot be thinking.
And that just allows everything to drop in
so much easier.
So, yeah. Like, you said it's the gateway
drug because when you're in that zone, it's
like, oh, and who's Bob? Oh, Bob's uncle.
Oh, and who's this? And, oh, what's going
on with this?
People are always like, how do Know? I'm
not making it up? It's like, why of
all the things to think about, Why are
you thinking of that? Why would you ramp
think about some man named Bob? Or why
would you randomly think of a grandma making
blueberry muffins or why would you randomly think
of purple slippers? Like, You would randomly think,
I gotta buy eggs. Oh, I forgot to
take out the laundry. Oh, dead the dog
has to pee. Those are random thoughts. Fine.
But when it gets to, like, spirit and
drop in,
I don't know where the school of thought
of, like, I'm making it up came because
I wish people would just
trust it more and trust themselves.
Maybe you are making it up, but you're
probably not. And what's the worst case scenario
and and there's a spot 80 to it,
it it just... It's there. And mh.
There... If there was a catalyst for it
of coming in,
as you mentioned, the the logical things in
our everyday life, but the intuitive hits come
in, they come in out of left field
often and
we'll talk a little bit more about the
mediums ship in a minute. But another
modality that you offer is psych k.
And what is that? Because I don't think
a lot of people are familiar with it.
Yeah. So I love Site k. Site k
rewrite
your
subconscious mind. So if you have limiting beliefs,
what we do is we go in, we
find the limiting belief, and then we find
the new belief that you want, and we
kind of reprogram your mind like a computer
to take away the old belief and bring
in the new belief. But we do it
with energy, So it still feels like a
ra release. Your body still feels like it's
processing, and it feel like it it's working.
But what you're doing is you're finding your
limiting belief. So I like this to explain
it as you're trying to find the whole.
Your brain is very smart, and we're trying
to find the word that you're like, I
don't like that. So for example, you can
say I am abundant,
and that can test positive and you can
say, yeah. I am abundant.
But then only say, I feel abundant. Your
body's like, oh, no. I don't feel abundant.
I am abundant, but I don't feel abundant.
So if you are abundant, but you don't
feel abundant, now how are you gonna act.
So whatever you believe to be true is
how you act. I can save money, you'll
save money. I can't save money. You won't
save money.
So we try to find your limiting beliefs
and we try to be very specific about
what are, find the opposite. So if I
if the limiting belief is, I can't save
money. We swap it. I can save money.
I easily save money. I want to save
money. I prioritize saving money. What is the
word where you're like, no. I don't prioritize
saving money. No.
Once we find that belief, we reprogram it,
and we release the old belief, bring in
the new belief, and then you start to
act that way immediately because now you believe
that.
So just as a very simple example, because
I can say k myself, I said k
the smallest things.
I hate taking out the recycling.
It's... I will take it, and I'll put
it by the door, and I will trip
over it for a week because I just
hate taking out their recycling? I was like,
why do I have to walk this across
the street?
So I just arcade myself, I enjoy taking
out the recycling. I want to take up
the recycling.
So now when my recycling bin starts to
fill up. There is something in my mind
that goes,
soon we can take out the recycling.
And my conscious mind is like, why am
I thinking that like, who in their mind
thinks, Woo who I get to take out
the recycling.
But because I've reprogram that, every time the
bin gets full, it's like, Woo I get
to take out their recycling.
So it's interesting with Site k because there
are layers, then there was a period of
time where I stopped taking out the recycling,
and I was like, well, why? Am I
not taking out their recycling? I wanna take
it out. I like to take it out.
And then my brain says, well, you don't
have time. And I was like, oh,
a new belief. I don't have time to
take out the recycling.
Reprogram. I like taking out the recycling. I
always have time to take over the recycling.
And now my recycling doesn't sit by the
door, but we have to do that in
our lives. Again, the awareness.
What is it that you feel. I am.
I know. I feel. I like. I prioritize.
I want to. What are the words where
your brain and your body are like, oh,
no. I don't like that. So part of
the work is figuring out where the limiting
belief is and then we reprogram it using
site k. So Is just an easy and
fast way that you can reprogram limiting beliefs.
It's not the only way. There's lots of
ways that you can do it. I think
the cool thing about is we don't need
to know where it came from, the limiting
belief. We just need to know is it
there? Or is it not there? And if
it's there, we fix that. And if it's
not there, we move on? So we don't
have to go, like, when did you start
feeling that you couldn't save money? What happened
in your life? That made you feel like
you did save money. We don't have to
go into the therapy of it or just,
like, do you believe you can save money
or not? You don't? Okay. Let's fix that.
So it's amazing.
Is it a semi h not state? Is
it a collaborative effort? How how do you
reprogram?
Yes to both So I do surrogate it
for this too because it's a lot faster
if I do the balances for you, and
then we can move through more statements.
But, yeah, It is... The more I work
with it because we have to me as
the practitioner, I have to say certain things
to you. And it does feel like h
sometimes, I'm always, like, listen to my voice,
follow this.
But because of my Ra background, I can
balance very fast because I know how to
move energy.
So when we're doing balances, I will explain
to you where it sits.
So for example, I'll be like, oh, your
jaw is cl. Oh, this sits in your
job... Oh, this makes sense that it's sitting
in your job because you have a problem
speaking your voice and it's sitting in your
job. So when you are done k, You'll
feel those spots released. So you'll feel a
lot lighter and more expansive.
Obviously, we don't choose our limiting beliefs. They
just happen based on things that happen in
your life. But once they're removed, you're like,
oh, yeah. I don't feel that weight on
me anymore. So I love it as an
energy exercise. The limiting belief part is amazing
too, but it's really interesting to see what
you believe. And again, the awareness of starting
to realize where your limiting beliefs are.
That's fascinating
because I think so many people are wanting
to do the work but they don't wanna
dr up with the old stuff. They don't
feel a need to revisit.
I read something recently, and it was saying,
oh, these are you know, indicators of childhood
trauma, and I read them list and I
thought... Yeah. Well, Dan will tell me something
I don't know. I mean, III know it's
in there I'm working you know... So the
fact that you're able to say, where are
you hearing now? What do you wanna shift
and let go of? That's incredibly empowering. And
as you mentioned, it's quick. It's easy. You
can work through a lot more than having
to start from, And I'm not discounting the
need for
traditional therapies or practices
it... Because there is a place for that
as well, but we're talking about how can
I move forward with my life and get
my recycling taken up? Yeah. Well, and I
think because of my Ra background, and I
can understand your energy when I go into
it and then because of my too background.
You can come to me and say, oh,
like, I'm having a limiting belief about eating
healthy.
And We'll talk about it for, you know,
a few minutes, and I'm like, that's not
your belief. It's actually about you prioritizing yourself.
And the person goes, oh
and I'm like, yeah.
So we're gonna balance prioritizing your and eating
healthy has nothing to do with it. So
I also feel like why I'm good at
say, k is that I can mix everything
together.
We're in a 45 minute session. We work
through about 10 statements,
and
we get to the bottom of things. It's
not about Oh, I don't prioritize,
you know, working out or eating healthy. It's
like, well, actually, the limiting belief isn't about
working out or eating healthy. It's about. Do
you make... You making time for yourself, you
putting yourself So I'm good at kind of
calling people out on that and being like,
this isn't the thing we need to do.
This is.
So it may be 1 session for 1
person and 3 sessions for someone else to
really solidify those or can it
Well, no. Yeah. So you can...
So Canadian of me. Yeah. Yeah. No. No.
Yeah.
It depends like,
obviously, we all have a lot of limiting
beliefs. It depends how many you wanna work
on. So you would make 10 limiting beliefs.
We would work through those And then if
you had 10 new limiting beliefs, you could
book another session. If you find 10 more
limiting beliefs, you can book another session. But
usually, 1 to 2 sessions, you're gonna kick
off your big ones, and then you can
start to get into the nitty gritty. So
if you start to find things that are
more specific, but the more specific the better.
The other cool thing about your limiting beliefs
are there like Domino's.
So for example, if you don't believe you're
abundant,
You're probably not calling an abundant. You're probably
not saving money. You're probably not making money.
You're probably not all the things that come
with not feeling abundant.
But as soon as you feel abundant,
it triggers
all those other things.
So 1 limiting belief can domino
a lot of other things because they're all
wrapped up and you not feeling abundant. You
not putting yourself first. You not prioritizing your
your care. So once you prioritize your care,
well now you're working out. Well now you're
eating healthy. Well now you're going to bed
early. Well now you're drinking water, we'll now
So if those weren't limiting beliefs, those were
just by byproducts of you not putting yourself
first.
So it's also interesting to understand the mind
and how it works because Sometimes it's not
a limiting belief that I can work out
every day. It's the learning belief that, oh,
you deserve the time to work out every
day.
So we can cover
many different subjects, self love,
you know, grief,
so many things I'm blanking right now. Spiritual.
The big. That's that's the beauty of it
is because if someone came in with wanting
to take their career or their business to
the next level, but they're not seeing themselves
as worthy or capable or I don't have
the the right degree. Or I don't have
this, but they have passion and the drive
to do it? That seems like something you
could work with that would help them say,
okay, why are you holding yourself back. You
know... Oh, yeah. Like Am worthy is the
number 1 but the statement that we do.
I am worthy. I am enough. I am
deserving
those are massive statements that can... When you
feel deserving, now you feel deserving of everything.
When you are worthy, when you are enough,
now you're are worthy for everything in your
life.
So, yeah, there's really big blanket statements that
you can do that can change a lot.
So how did you come up with the
name for your podcast, the medium in the
middle?
Setting on a bar, And
so I knew I wanted to make a
podcast for months, and I bought the equipment
and I post practicing recording, and I was
trying to find the spot where It wasn't
echoing, and it was months and months and
months, but I didn't have a name, and
I was like I can't start until I
have a name.
And I had a friend visiting that I
used to work for at work with at
Lulu Le back in Ontario,
and she was visiting Ban and
she came to visit me when I was
working at the restaurant and we went downstairs
to the bar to have a drink. And
I was like, I just can't think of
a name. Like, stuff the medium, medium stuff,
stuff, them, you know, you're doing your flow
charts and you're writing all your words and
you're trying to find them and you're going
online to the word
creators,
and we were just like, kind of ad
living and talking about it. And I was
like, I can't start till, I have a
name.
And then she turned to me, and she
was like, what about medium in the middle?
She was, like, like, Malcolm in the middle,
but you're... The medium in the middle. You're
in the middle, and I was like, Oh
my god. That's it. I, like, paid my
bill, and I went home, and I was
like, I can now begin, like, medium in
the middle of. Mh. And it's just
Yeah. It's perfect because I'm in the middle.
Like, whether you're medium, whether you're doing Rei
key, what no matter what I do I
am in the middle. Stuff is in the
middle.
So
even though people are like, well, you don't
even do mediums ship readings. I was like,
I'm still a medium. Whether or not you
do mediums ship readings. Are still a medium.
Fyi, everyone. So Right. When I first saw
medium in the middle, what I thought was
oh, she's the conduit. She's between the realm.
She's between spirit and here. Which made perfect
sense. That was perfect. And you're... You've been
really open about that this isn't a a
time in your in your career and in
your work where you wanna do 1 on
1 readings, but you're exactly spot on or
bang on for the Canadian
that you you really don't have to be
practicing that
as a medium to b 1 because it's
something intrinsic to all of us. And I
really believe it comes more naturally to some
people, but we all have the capability to
connect with spirit. Yeah. I agree. And I
connect with spirit all the time, Like, this
morning, my mom was getting her nails done
and the woman's son's passing away, and I'm,
like, giving her a reading over text message.
You know, I was doing a Rei master's
course last week and the woman's daughter was
passed away. We were talking to her daughter.
Like, I still use mediums ship all the
time.
But do I wanna be sitting in front
of someone 1 on 1 for 10 readings
a week every week? No. That's not my
passion right now. Do I do mediums ship
all the time? Yes. Does it happen all
the time. Yes. I teach about it. I
help others. I host circles. I love mediums
ship, but for me to do it 1
on 1 as my full time job. It's...
I have so many other things on the
list of things that I'm obsessed with.
Just like it's not number 1, and it's
not number 2, so something has to give.
And if it's something that you're meant to
do
more of an... In your practice,
spirit will make sure you know that. Oh,
yeah. Because we all grow and evolve in
in it it shifts and changes. The longer
you do this. So I I absolutely love
that you respect that.
But it seems like the focus of you
work is to
empower people with their own ability to connect
with spirit and to gain confidence in how
they perceive the information coming through. Yes. I
always joke. My grandma hates on me for
this. I wanna put myself out of business.
I don't want people to think that they
need people like me and you.
You know, it's beautiful for the help. It's
beautiful for the support, but eventually, I don't
want you coming to me. Eventually, you have
your own glasses. You understand. You know these
things. You have the ability to do it
on your own. So I like how helping
people at those beginning stages, getting up on
their feet to be like, okay, you can
do this. You can, you know, connect on
your own. I can teach you how to
do everything I do and then getting them
up and running, but
I always joke. I wanna put myself out
of business. I wanna teach everyone how to
do this on their own so that they
are confident that they don't need people like
us.
Brett, I agree with you a hundred percent,
and I also think that it is...
There's more than enough to go around. So
when I see
people in this work who are being competitive
or fearful or well, I can't promote someone
else because it's gonna take away from me.
That's not the way it works. Where we're
trying to
cast a wider or net and so many
people right now
need a helping hand. There's there's a lot
of grief. There's a lot of he,
something that you don't offer, but I know
about you, which I love is that you're
incredibly astute with business. So do you do...
I know you do mentor our work? Do
you encourage other people who are already doing
this work, do you mentor more for
skill set, What is that part of your
business like?
Yeah. So I do a mentorship program where
I take people on for 3 months at
a time, and we work together. My focuses
are Ricky, mediums ship development and business development.
I always say those are my wheelhouse, and
that's what I'm best at. But I've had
people do the program for different things.
I had 1 woman who worked for Nascar,
and she was a consultant,
and she hired me because she had just
said I like your business sense. You know
nothing about my industry, and it'll be interesting
to get your perspective on my problems.
And we work amazing together. She was, like,
okay, This is what's going on? And what
do you thinking? And I was like, is
this possible Is this possible? Could you apply
this? And she was, like, Wow. Great idea.
Never thought of it that way. So I
have an application process to make sure I
believe I can help you.
Again, that integrity piece, I'm not just gonna
take your money. I'm not just gonna work
with you if I don't think we're a
good match,
especially 3 months at a time. We have
I have to think I can help you.
We have to vibe. We have to get
along.
So, yeah, Rei development,
medium ship development. And then if you're starting
or growing a business, I love business. I'm
so double capricorn
that
I love procedures. I love numbers and I
know you're like this too. I love tracking.
I love year over year growth. I love
figuring go out to make money. I love
And while,
I don't like to talk about that side
of things because
if you're in this industry to make money,
you are doing it for the wrong reasons,
and you will not be successful.
Just point blank period. So Mh. I can
never lead with the money portion
because, yes, I love making money, I'm good
at it. My business is very successful, but
that is not why I do this.
And as soon as money becomes your focus,
you will fail in spirituality. You will. I'm
guaranteeing you.
Spirit does not support that.
Spirit supports abundance and Spirit support being in
integrity and working for the right reasons and
having a greater cause, that's not money. Does
the money come? Yes. So
I really watch how I market my business
stuff
because I don't wanna say, hey, work with
me to make 6 figures. Hey, Work with
me to be you know, fully sold out.
Hey, Work with me to... Well, know. If
you don't have your your base.
And if you're not in integrity. And if
you're not doing this for the right reasons
if you're not ready, and if you haven't
done the work,
none of that stuff comes. And no matter
what I can teach you, you're not making
6 figures in this business if you're not
doing it.
For the right reasons.
Or you're not going to have a consistent
client base or you're not going to continue
to grow and evolve. Yeah. No. And you
and I are on the same page with
that as far as ethics and integrity and
taking the high road and and often
people think...
You know... I've been quite open that there
are a lot of people that are doing
this for different reasons than what I perceive
as is service work.
And they struggle
or they're
they're successful, very successful for a short period
of time, but I've never seen it sustained.
No. And
especially going into year 5 of working full
time, and I work 6 to 7 days
a week, so there's lots of business to
be at.
I tell people not to give me money
probably more often than not. Oh, you don't
need this course. Oh, no. You don't need
to do again Oh, you've been trained once.
You don't need to train again. Oh, no.
You could do that on your own. The
amount of messages and Dms and emails where
I say, no. You don't have to book
that. Or no. You don't need that. Come
on. You know you don't need that. It's
just
that's what keeps me abundant is I
am honest.
So same thing with my mentorship. If I
don't believe I can help you or if
I don't believe I can take you to
the level that you wanna go, I will
say that. I'll say, hey, don't think I'm
the greatest fit. I think you probably need
someone else. I think, you know, I don't
wanna just take your money and waste your
time.
I will refund people. I just had a
woman where she was, like, wanting to build
a business and then 3 sessions in as
we were building and building and building. She
was, like, I don't want this. She's like,
I didn't. I had no idea what wasn't
it and I can't do... Like, no. I've
I thought about it, and this isn't what
I want. And I was like, okay Great.
Do you want me to refund you for
the rest of the program because I don't
wanna waste your time and I don't wanna
take your money. She was like, what? Like,
oh,
integrity, Like, it's so simple. Yes, I will
send you back that money. I literally made
it back 4 times 3 days later.
Right,
Because you're taking the high road and you're
doing it. In collaboration with spirit. This isn't
a... It always knows. But oh, hell, yes.
You just have to listen.
Listening the hard part.
But
especially in this the the
the energies right now are a little bit
more fear based. There's a lot of stress
and anxiety about finances abundant security, stability.
So for us to both sit, you know,
get out of the way, trust spirit,
do it for the right reason, highest and
invest.
I gift a lot of work, and I
don't
advertise that. Same. I will never... You will
never hear me talk all the work I
do for free. No.
Because it's nobody's business, except the people that
I'm choosing to give that too. Yep.
But it also is keeping that that cycle
going. It's it's the abundance there's plenty. I
don't have and I do the same thing
if someone comes to me... Said oh, I
wanna take this class,
and I already know in my heart that
they've far surpassed what I'm gonna be able
to offer to them
why would I encourage them to do it?
That that's not right. It's up morally. Right?
Yeah. And I think that leads into a
really good point about the ego work of
this.
There is so much self work and checking
yourself and
making sure that your ego isn't surpassing things
or you're doing things for Ego, and I
think, yeah, the people who give things away
for free and promote it.
That's ego. You're doing that for yourself. Hey.
Look at me, look how great I am.
You should be doing that work in integrity
because, like, you like the way you say,
like the work of service, Like, you're always
doing this in service,
and it's true if you're doing it in
service and not for the show and not
for the publicity
Again, your integrity, you're gonna be abundant. Your
business is gonna thrive. Everything is gonna flow.
If it's not flowing.
Have a look at yourself in the mirror.
And see.
Right. And that transfer is also into if
all of a sudden you're not feeling like
yours clear conduit it or you're not getting
the messages that you usually get or it's
a struggle to bring through the energy through
a Ra session For me, that's always a
red flag of, u, have I gotten my
own way and have I forgotten who I
work for here? Yep. So yes, I'm self
employed, but I work for spirit. Yep. And
and and I think that abundance can present
in a lot of ways. And for me,
abundance is when I can get out of
the way and let those messages come through.
And people say, oh my god. That's amazing.
And I'll say, no. It's not me. I
I sit here like a hand puppet.
And and it comes through me not from
me. But you made a really good point
a few minutes ago is that you've
trained. You've done a lot of training, a
lot of certifications, a lot of work to
get yourself to the level where you can
be such a clear conduit.
And that's a really important factor.
And I like to remind people how long
that takes because I know it's easy to
see me now in your 5 of business
but that's year 5 of full time business.
That's not the years before of
I can't stress enough how long I worked
7 days a week.
I cannot stress that enough. I don't have
kids, and I don't have a partner.
So when I say I work 7 days
a week, I really mean it. And that
was years and years and years of working
a full time job and having 3 part
time jobs,
working a full time job and doing Rei
after work on my days off before it
work. I used to know that about my,
like, internal clock was every 6 weeks. I
needed 1 day off, so I didn't burn
So every 6 weeks, I would take 1
day off, and then I would keep going
on the cycle. So the comparison trap,
I like to warn people do not compare
your chapter 1 or 2 to someone else's
chapter 20.
When you've been doing this for 10 years,
yes, It's easy. When you've been doing this
for 6 months? Yes, it feels like work.
I like to compare it to learning piano.
And if you bought your child, piano, a
piano,
what end piano lessons? What would you say?
You better practice 20 minutes every day after
school because how are you gonna get better
at Piano. I didn't buy you that piano
for nothing, and you would make them practice
every day because how do you get better
at piano? You practice. You go to your
lessons. You'll do your titles.
Spirituality is the same thing. What do you
gotta do to get really good? You practice
every day for 20 minutes you meet other
people who play Piano, You go to Piano
titles. You talk about Piano, when you're bored,
you do Piano.
That's how you get good and you're not
good in your first 6 months. Some people
are. The some people are. But
you're good in year 3. You're really good
in year 5, and then there's people like
you where you're the masters where I'm like,
you can tell. You've been doing this for
years,
and I go to those people, go to
the people who have been doing this for
20 years
and watch how they work, watch their... Structures,
watch how dialed in everything is, that took
20 years.
So I never want people to compare themselves
to me or other people because don't know
how long we've been doing this and practicing.
You are exactly where you need to be.
You are developing at exactly the rate you
need to be developing at, who You are
perfect just where you are, just keep practicing
your piano 20 minutes a day.
And if you forget for a month, okay.
Just practice when you remember. So, yeah. That's
American trap is dangerous.
That's a beautiful beautiful way. It's to describe
it and to also
really bring it home that
do it your way, Practice your way. Don't
But with
the social media with the compare... With all
the the... You watch a show on Tv
or Netflix that has
a medium show that has been so highly
edited that they hit everything. Everything... There's no
way to ever miss anything.
And no disrespect to any of the folks
that do that because there are some incredible
public mediums at and intuitive that do this
work.
But there's also a lot of really good
sometimes. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. People are really
good at the story of things.
But you're right. It's it's any muscle that
you that you work is going to improve.
Yeah. And that's something that I try to
share in my Rei level 1 course. So
I try to share all the things that
took me yours to learn. So for example,
boundaries and disconnecting.
It took me about a year and a
half to realize I could shut this stuff
off.
It took me a year and a half
to realize I could go to the grocery
store and not have noise that I could
sit in a yoga class and not feel
overwhelmed. That I could go out to dinner
and not have to hide in the bathroom
in the middle of dinner because I didn't
know what was happening,
a year and a half
I don't want my students sticky year and
a I have to learn boundaries and how
to shut off. We're learning that on day
1, but that's also the the thing of,
like, okay. It took me a year and
a half. Hopefully, it doesn't take you a
year and a half, but it might still
take you 6 months.
Might still take you 3 months. So
also, those lessons that take time
to figure out what you need.
But that goes along with, those are important
things to share with people.
At the beginning of their journey that you
had to figure out on your own. That's
a huge step up. That's a huge hand
you know, helping someone step into this more
Because when people said, I can never shut
it off, and I'm thinking you're gonna either
burn out or you're not being honest because
you can't sustain at that level. No. And
I know I think there's also a fear
around o I shut it off.
I'm shutting off my gifts.
And they'll never come back,
and that just makes me laugh because all
of the people who are in this work,
were we're like, we're always off.
Like, 98 percent of the time we're off
unless we're sitting in front of a client
doing this work. So Yeah. Trust me, you
can be off all day every day. And
when you want it on, spirit will show
up.
It's just about finding that balance and knowing
that you do not have to be on
all the time and that is how you
will easily sync.
And it allows you to enjoy
being a human being on the planet. And
without I everything else up on the sponge.
Yes. I find that's another big mistake people
make because they wanna skip the human step.
And I'm like, oh, no. No. No. Your
heat form doesn't disappear. We're still gonna make
mistakes. We're still gonna do human things. We're
still gonna have to learn lessons. They're still
the hard path. We can never skip the
human ness.
Know what's fun up there with spirit and
the fairies and the rainbows, but you have
to come back down to earth when you're
done work. You're still gonna have dishes in
your sink no matter how spiritual you are.
There's laundry to do, so just finding that
balance takes years.
Years.
Yeah. It and it... You're right. It does
take balance and it takes boundaries, and it
takes
and for me,
reminding myself every day
that I really feel lucky that I get
to do this. Alright. I've got a lot
of jobs for a lot of users. Like,
this is great. It pays my bills. It
takes care of things. I can give my
kids a a quality. I But when you
wake up and you realize as well, this
is what I get to do today, it's
a nice feeling. Oh, yeah. I love. Really
nice feeling.
I love my work. I love the people
that I work with. Like,
again, you're sitting in so much gratitude that
everything flows really well when
you're in doing the right thing. You're doing
what you're supposed to be doing and if
you're not doing something.
Or if you're doing something you're not supposed
to be, Spirit will tell you. There'll be
a roadblock, there'll be something in your way.
That's right. So you do have an upcoming
online rei training in July? Yes. I do
Rei trainings every month I teach Rei level
1 and Rei level 2. In July, the
course is the 20 seventh and the 20
eighth for the next Rei level 1. And
that course is actually special because it is
my 80 fifth time,
80 fifth time,
teaching level 1 and level 2. So That
doesn't count all of my masters trainings in
my advanced courses, but I've taught right now
5 times
online. That also it doesn't include your person.
So, yeah. So them every month, They're very
popular,
and I love teaching Ricky.
So is it an all day? Event, the
2 days actually. Yeah. So it's the weekend,
because you receive the att,
you can own... I teach Sue Rei, so
we have a lot of rules to follow.
But,
you can only receive 22A day, and they
do have to be spread out So Saturday,
you'll get 2 att minutes, Sunday, you'll get
2 att minutes. So we're Saturday, 1 to
05:30 Mountain Standard Time, and Sunday 1 to
5.
And then you'll receive all your att on
that weekend,
and we cover everything I wish I knew
in level 1 and all the helpful tip
I've learned over the years doing Rei.
So it's my favorite course. Level 1 is
a new set of glasses, a new perspective
on the world. So it's such a gift
to give to yourself to want to be
aware of your energy to want to understand
what your body is telling you to want
to understand your alarm bells and try to
make your life easier and faster.
So, yeah, I hold that course very dear
to my heart. And I host the monthly.
They're very popular. They sell out. I only
accept 11 students to your make sure that
everyone has a chance to share and talk
and get to know each other. And also
for the att, it's a lot. I do
22 2 minutes a day. So
but that is a lot. That is a
whole lot.
So if people want to contact you or
more information about z
what you have to offer, your classes, your
podcast, where would be the best place for
them to find you? Yeah. My podcast is
available anywhere you listen?
Medium in the middle podcast. It's available for
free on all streaming platforms. And then my
website is the medium in the middle dot
com. Has my courses, my medium chip circles,
my sessions, I work in person in Ban
Alberta, and virtually, But... And then on Instagram,
I'm at medium in the middle.
Tiktok medium in the middle. I'm medium in
the middle everywhere.
You can find things. Pinterest, Youtube. We're all
over.
Well, thank you so so very much for
doing this with me steph. You really, I
can feel your passion for this work, and
I'm sure your students feel very supported and
inspired
and know that they're incapable hands. So thank
you so much. Thank you so much for
having me on, and I hope my students
feel that way. That's the cool. But I
appreciate it. I lose lovely
conversation. Thank you. Yes. And for those of
you that are listening, remember, there is something
special that you came to share
and just take a minute and look within
and say, what is it that I'd like
to would I like to grow and evolve
and enjoy my time here. So thank you
for listening, and we'll be back with another
Sure your light.
Pretty soon.
Bye.