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I stand up and I see my bike,

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told to myself. Well, I guess you're not

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It's it's

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overcoming adversity that brings out an extra level

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of performance for me. Yeah. And it's been

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a bit of my personal puzzle as an

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athlete to figure out how how to bring

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that without the adversity. Actually, I'm, like, totally

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gonna tell you it's gonna be the hook.

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Since we last had Alm on the show,

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Ale experiences from having victory slip through her

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Even during the tough times. So without further

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On.

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Welcome to the downtime podcast also known as

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A. How are you doing? Yeah. Good. Happy

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to be here in person. Yeah. Yeah. We're

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like, talking just before we came 1 I

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think It's 20 18. We did it remote

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with you 20 18. I would have guessed

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20 19. Yeah. We couldn't even see each

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other back then. It was, like, pretty much

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just a phone call style recording in there.

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Yeah. Yeah. Next kinda blows my cover that

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I've been around for a long time.

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Same here. Yeah. Yeah. 7 years in the

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podcast us world, which seems kinda crazy, but...

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It's wild because it does feel like honestly,

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it was yesterday for me. I don't know

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for you, but

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it feels like it feels by. It feels

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like yesterday and it also feels like a

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lifetime ago. Like it's weird her. Yeah. Yeah.

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A little bit of both I agree. Times

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a strange thing. And as always, I've done

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a little bit of research.

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The most

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interesting thing that popped out, Okay my research

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this time was that when you're

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getting dressed for a flight. You put your

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socks on first.

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But only on days when you're getting on

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a plane.

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Where was that? It was on a wide

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open like, wise words, I think.

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Oh, god. Yeah. It's kinda true. But that

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since I wrote that in this article, I

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kinda like, doubt it. So if I'm conscious,

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I'll would like, do regular dress up border,

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which I believe to be underwear before socks.

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Just so people know I'm normal. But if

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I'm unaware on a flight morning, I still

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just... I don't know. I think it's because

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I lay out my clothes the night before

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I eyes usually? Real organized. Kinda try like...

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Yeah. Like, the pack stuff is in the

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bag, and then I'm just... It's usually, like,

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super earlier or whatever. So... Yeah.

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I Maybe I'll put the socks last and

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the socks are first on the file or

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something. Yeah. So I'll super superstition there. You're

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super person?

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A little bit. Yeah. Yeah. A broken mirror,

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2 or 3 years ago. Okay. And

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I was with

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our partner phil who used to race downhill.

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Yeah. And then another 1 of his friends

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they're both racers and there is a part

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of chance in our job. Like I think

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it's...

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When writers are asked if they're super, it's

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just like, we have to acknowledge that there

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is a part of chance. And actually chance,

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I believe has plays a role and everything

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in your life. Okay. So

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a little bit. Is the answer why I

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definitely, like, turn around a counter clock likewise

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12 time and through South my shoulder

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broke.

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But he thinks Right? You've not had any

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bad luck we've been alright.

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Have I had bad luck? I don't think

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I have bad luck. Okay. But definitely didn't

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have the racing I wanted it in the

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last few years. Okay. So

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sometimes I think it... And I, actually, I'm,

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like, totally cutting it part of the story

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because people were gonna think I'm insane, but

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I'm just gonna tell you it's gonna be

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the hook or so,

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So then the boys were, like, are you

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gonna be okay like, this... And they were,

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like, stressing and then I was, like, Googling

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all sorts of, like, answers to what to

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do when you breaking mirror and

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We drove to this cemetery and if you

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touch like a doom with the craft mirror.

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This soul is supposed like, Absorbed a bad

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luck. I love this. So, yeah. We had

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a little trip to the center and then,

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the boys were just kind of supportive because

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they didn't want me to

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carry that at any race start, you know,

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They wanted me to know good luck on

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my side. So,

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yeah. That was... I guess you could say

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I'm probably super.

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Getting that vibe. Yeah

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love it. Right. So let's dig back then

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into some of the results. There was a

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couple that I kinda wanted to pick out.

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For sure. Yeah. They might be some of

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the slightly more painful 1 I think the

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story is really interesting. Yeah. And the first

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those is Lat t 20 21.

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Yeah. You get a fuck where this is

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going. Guess we need to catch her because

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if 20 18 was our last podcast,

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I hadn't even been that successful yet, Like,

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I had some pretty strong results, but then

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20 19 was the year I finished third

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overall and racked up podium consistently.

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And then in a weird sense, like,

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I mean, I'll let you go, but I.

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Take us through it.

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Covid just hitting athletes at different stages in

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their career and

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different humans in their lives too. Like, I

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think, now that we're, like, 4 years past.

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Like, we

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have the space, maybe to process a bit,

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how it all hit us differently. And

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I never really realized from me. It was

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like the height of my career. And

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than Covid. The momentum kinda just went... Yeah.

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And I didn't wanna believe it in in

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the moment. It was like, no. You know,

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Like, I I keep going, and But to

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be fair, early transformed our jobs and, like,

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how we traveled and

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created a stress, like I think the first

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year, we traveled when the vaccines weren't out

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yet, and we had 3 races at year

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in Out in Europe. Yeah.

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As North Americans like, I'm a pretty laid

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back person, but like, I would wake up,

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like a night and panic likes stressed because,

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like, it was, like, if you test positive.

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Like, you have to stay in Europe, it

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can't go home. And so,

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yeah, For me, that's when it hits is,

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like, how of the courier. And then I

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remember Jesse Rem and I, because we were

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all still in Rocky Mountain at the time.

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We are shooting the launch released for the

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main Sm helmet. Mh. In provoke, and we

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were all like a bit like, being fuss

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racers about, like, not wanting to hit big

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stuff because we didn't wanna get injured because

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we had been working hard all winter and

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we were headed the South America.

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And then on that shoot,

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we got the news that the races were

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canceled, and then we just started hitting big

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jumps on for and had a good time.

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This Smith got an awesome launch video. Yeah.

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But racing was done poor. Yeah. So that

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that was crazy, but

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yeah. That does lead us to where you

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were kinda going, which is 20 21 in

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Lat. Yeah. Yeah. So we had that, like,

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weird short season in 20 20? And, like,

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Yeah. I guess a lot of athletes struggled

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with... Do I train? Don't I train Do

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I take a break? How hard do I

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work? And, like, it just a messy kind

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of year. So, yeah, coming into 20 21.

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Things were still very much not normal. Right?

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Like, travel was still weird. Still Yeah. Maybe

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still lockdown. I can't remember. I've tried to

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block it No. I know. Wasn't it crazy.

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I think there was still locked down. I

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was like, when you would come back to

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your country? Like, Remember for the Kiwi. It

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was like, super expensive for... Us, it was

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just needed a place to be for 14

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days, and, yeah. Very yeah. Very weird times.

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We had the double headers. They sort of

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Yeah. Kept things

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like together and try to simplify the season

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a little bit. And think you'd got. Was

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it third in the first of the t

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double headers like you had pretty solid result.

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Yeah. I think

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it was rainy and it was, yeah, like

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the Wednesday race, and I got... Yeah. I

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got third on that 1. Yeah. And then,

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so I guess, obviously feeling good, feeling confident

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coming into the second 1, and it... We're

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in the pros stage days back there where

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you'd race the stage like the evening before

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the televised Yes. Yeah. Telephones. Yeah, you can

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find that on youtube.

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There go. Yeah. Talk us through it Right?

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Because it was going pretty well. Yeah. Technically,

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it finished pretty well Right, in a way

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because you were 7 seconds up until the

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lead I think in that. That's correct.

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Maybe that's a good confidence bruce for me

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for next week that?

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Yeah. So

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we had Pro stage and

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race day. So Pro stage is just the

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1 thing, and

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I remember vividly,

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Miranda Miller was still racing, and Melanie P

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too, so they were the girls that were

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starting in front of me for Pro stage

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and the vibe at the top of Pro

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stage like so, like, nerve racking in, like,

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way more adrenaline because...

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And I remember seeing Miranda get out of

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the gate and, like, Miranda Miller downhill sprint,

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and I was just like,

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I really have to go. And then male

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Pug was riding super strong in those years,

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and

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So I just, like, sprinted as hard as

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I could into the wood, and I remember

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watching the review after and how I hit

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the first corner and it was, like,

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to the edge just not working. So I

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was like, okay. I want a good run.

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And then, yeah. Just

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did some a super dumb. There was 1

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rock garden

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where every router was pretty, like, conscious about

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line choices and it was, like, quite chunk

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or whatever. And I had a little bit

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of a doubt, and I just un clipped

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1 feet, and then I dab, but I

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fully, like, just...

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I don't know what the medical term is.

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Like, it's not dis located because it comes

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right back in, but so like my ankle

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goes out and in.

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Yeah.

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I'm a pretty, like, I have, like, hyper

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relax joins. Okay. So Yeah. I think I'd

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probably... If I didn't, it would have been

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maybe a broken ankle. So in a sense,

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win win. Yeah.

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Remember just hitting that hearing, like, a bit

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of a pop, like, and then sitting on

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my seat, and there was maybe, like, hundred

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and 50 meters to the finish. And just,

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like, putting my foot on my pedal being

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like, oh, okay. Like, it's holding, you know?

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And then you'd rock up to the stage

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and I was just got off my bike,

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and I was like, oh, I really hurt

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myself. It's so embarrassed I started crying and

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Tara I was like,

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how can you hurt yourself and be, like

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7 seconds up, you know. So, yeah, It

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was a bit of a wild start,

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for sure, but That's... Yeah. Probably 1 of

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my best stages in the my career. That's

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cool. Yeah. But then you had to obviously,

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rather than doing what you wanna do, which

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is recover eat Yeah. All that good stuff.

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You're off to the hospital. Yeah. Yeah. And

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thank god, honestly, like T, har she was

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the ph and manager of rock and she

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definitely, like, kept us held together. And

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packed me a lunch. She called me an

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ambulance, and then I was, like, is pretty

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small mountain town. And so we... I'm at

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the back of the ambulance like,

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backside, and then we're going down this skull,

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and I'm getting like car activated, and we

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stopped at a gas station and everybody only

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speaks a town and I get transferred from

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1 ambulance influence to the other, and I'm

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just like,

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who knows at this point where I'm going.

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And like, I'm looking at my phone battery

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because it all happened like, pretty quick, You

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know?

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Because

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the the goal was, like, well, if you

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can continue because it was also the last

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race of a block. I think think because

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we had, like, a few and then that

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was a break after to this. So Was

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kinda like, oh,

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and

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so we wanted to know if anything was

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broken, was the main thing. So, yeah, I'm

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just alone that the house pretty sure I

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had some knit. So

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knitted a few rows and got an x

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extra and then T

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my mechanic at the time,

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waited, like, 3 hours for me and had

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a dinner in the car. Was so hungry.

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And I still have that photo of him,

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like, and never ate it dinner or, like,

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left it for me and. Like just like

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legendary staff and

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I believe that, like, we can lead to

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that later, but like, proteins like, really

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allow athletes to do feat that seem

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extraordinary.

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But they would...

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They only happen because there are other humans

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that are dedicated. Yeah That we 1 performer.

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That we never see. Yeah. But I like,

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the legends behind the legends going.

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Absolutely. Like, that's such a shitty evening like

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waiting at a hospital in Italy, like, in

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the van. So, yeah. I think we ended

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up being cleared. No fracture. Drove home, and

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then we had, like, this nice machine, which

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compresses and does ice and I did, like,

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3 cycles in the night or something, and

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then we woke up, tara taped it, and

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then she... We assessed the risk to the

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reward and the reward was

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potentially my best result ever. So... And then

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the risk was, like, re injury.

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But, yeah, I was like, start to do

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the first stage and

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see how it goes. Yeah.

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And up to a point, it went pretty

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well. Right? Yeah. Yeah. I was in a

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lot of pain.

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So

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the girls were, like, all being, like, super

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supportive, and In a funny sense, I think

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in my career, I'm being like,

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the tough cookies. I wish it was, like

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the winning cookie. But

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Yeah. I don't know. It speaks to my

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character, and I would never quit or give

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up. So that's how It raised and brought

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up and

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the girls were super supportive, like, just after

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the first, I was like, okay, if I

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lost,

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I remember being, like, if I lost more

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than 30 seconds,

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I quit. Like because... Yeah. There's at some

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point, like, how much pain do you wanna

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put yourself through to get, like, a result

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that wouldn't

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move you forward in the overall. Like... So

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I was like, okay. If I lost more

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than 30 seconds on Stage 1 I quit.

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And then I think I lost 5 seconds

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or maybe, like, not even to. So I

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I was still leaving. Yeah. And then,

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now, Pearson, I had her phone and would

437
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look and tell me and then I was

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like, okay. I guess I just gotta keep

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going and stage 2 was, like, a super

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big

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hike bike.

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So that was the hard... I knew that

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was the hardest part for me for that

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day. I because that was just like,

445
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like, w around and

446
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Morgan shah really helped me during that hike

447
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eye. She was there, just cheering me on

448
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and stuff. And

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I think that's the beauty of Avenger. I

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was like, sharing the hardship. And then when

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it's so us go

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here with yourself.

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So

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that's really something I've always loved about the

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sport and

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Yeah. So get to the top of stage

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2 super fit our stage 3, I guess,

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super physical stage, and that's when Hat was

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breaking into the scene. Oh yeah. Course. Yeah.

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And then you're all like, well.

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Did have a big mid stage climb that

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1. Stage. That was the stage that, like,

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started

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around a castle for for a, kinda of

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good photo. Yeah. For ben.

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And then,

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we

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It was pretty tech, and then it had,

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like, a super big field sprint in the

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grass. Yeah. Yeah.

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So

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I was kinda like, well, I just gotta,

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I, give it everything I've got. You know?

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And then

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I think I won that stage as well.

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And I remember, like, being in the field

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and they had mode, like, just where

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the finish was. Yeah. And I remember being

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with my head down and just, like, not

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even, like, looking up or to the finish,

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like, just looking at if the tall grass

482
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was like, beside me and I was like

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if... As long as it's, like, on both

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sides, I'm good, You know. So like, really

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dug so deep and

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yeah. Then I was going to the pits,

487
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and then everybody was trying to lie to

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me. But just not telling me how good

489
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it was going it, and I was like

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guys. I know it like...

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So we did the ice machine again with

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tara and checked my taping and I remember,

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Chris Ball actually came by and

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congratulate me on how strong I looked in

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that finish and stuff. So there's definitely, like

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a little bit of magic going in the

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air and, yeah. Just... It's interesting for me

498
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like, what brings that kind of performance out

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of me because

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as I'm sure you're gonna bring up,

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most times, it's overcoming adversity that brings out

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an extra level of performance for me. Yeah.

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And it's been a bit of my personal

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puzzle as an athlete to figure out how

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how to bring that without the adverse Like,

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how do you bring that edge when everything

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is working for you? And I think that

508
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that is something that

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pro athletes to have everything done and made

510
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for them. I'm like, how do you bring

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that in? Yeah. Or how do you create

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some, like,

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adversity that's not too adverse. Do you know

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what I mean? Yeah? Something think that just

515
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gives you that fire and that drive?

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Without having your ankle in pieces all. Yeah.

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Yeah. No. It's really interesting to me and

518
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to be honest. I haven't

519
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fully found the answer. Yeah. So I wonder

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if I I will. I mean I maybe

521
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have, but yeah. Yeah. Trip today. Yeah. Have

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you found anything that that

523
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works on that that that helps you dig

524
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into that, like,

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extra couple of percent.

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I think for me, it's like, I really

527
00:18:40,351 --> 00:18:42,592
have to to be doing it for myself.

528
00:18:42,830 --> 00:18:43,965
Like to prove

529
00:18:44,576 --> 00:18:47,116
myself. And I think I grew up maybe

530
00:18:47,116 --> 00:18:48,069
in a sense like,

531
00:18:48,878 --> 00:18:49,378
hindering

532
00:18:49,753 --> 00:18:51,903
myself, like, maybe not training as hard as

533
00:18:51,982 --> 00:18:54,450
I could or, like, not doing every single

534
00:18:54,450 --> 00:18:56,280
little thing so that I would have something...

535
00:18:56,519 --> 00:18:58,111
Always a little something to overcome.

536
00:18:58,843 --> 00:19:00,755
But when you get to a level where

537
00:19:00,755 --> 00:19:03,702
you train very hard, you have everything dialed

538
00:19:03,702 --> 00:19:06,252
for you. Your bike is perfect. Like, it's

539
00:19:06,252 --> 00:19:06,911
kind of

540
00:19:08,259 --> 00:19:09,935
Yeah. How do you keep just doing it

541
00:19:09,935 --> 00:19:11,930
for yourself? Because you have all these other

542
00:19:11,930 --> 00:19:14,505
stress are just like, wanting to deliver? And

543
00:19:14,724 --> 00:19:15,224
so

544
00:19:16,815 --> 00:19:18,015
I don't I don't know if I found

545
00:19:18,015 --> 00:19:20,174
it. Yeah. Like, not in my last few

546
00:19:20,174 --> 00:19:22,494
years on the Rocky Mountain team. Like, I

547
00:19:22,494 --> 00:19:24,914
was disconnected from the process and

548
00:19:25,308 --> 00:19:28,114
my writing wasn't making you proud, and

549
00:19:29,045 --> 00:19:30,874
that's just personal. You know, like, it wasn't

550
00:19:30,874 --> 00:19:32,942
bad or anything. Like, I still gave it

551
00:19:32,942 --> 00:19:34,237
my all, but I wasn't

552
00:19:35,104 --> 00:19:35,604
feeling

553
00:19:36,303 --> 00:19:37,602
fulfilled. Yeah. So

554
00:19:38,061 --> 00:19:40,618
that's why I did this big change this

555
00:19:40,618 --> 00:19:42,456
year and change this program is to reconnect

556
00:19:42,456 --> 00:19:44,784
with that and reconnect with, like, arriving that

557
00:19:44,784 --> 00:19:46,531
really makes me proud. Yeah. We're definitely... Yeah.

558
00:19:46,690 --> 00:19:48,438
We'll definitely talk about that. Yeah. I think

559
00:19:48,676 --> 00:19:51,695
Jumping for Wanted to? Good. Do you think

560
00:19:51,695 --> 00:19:54,171
they're, like, when you have that adversity that

561
00:19:54,171 --> 00:19:56,633
thing? Yeah. Do you think it takes to

562
00:19:56,633 --> 00:19:59,173
some extent, it takes the result a little

563
00:19:59,173 --> 00:20:00,920
bit out of the picture because the result

564
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,420
becomes

565
00:20:01,808 --> 00:20:03,719
I'm gonna overcome this. Yeah. And I'm gonna

566
00:20:03,719 --> 00:20:05,311
smash this. I don't care. I'm gonna prove

567
00:20:05,311 --> 00:20:07,063
how strong I am. I think it takes

568
00:20:07,063 --> 00:20:09,451
away the pressure. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely.

569
00:20:10,023 --> 00:20:11,774
And then now, I'm just, like, I'm high

570
00:20:11,774 --> 00:20:13,923
putting myself through this? Like is it, like,

571
00:20:14,082 --> 00:20:14,320
you know,

572
00:20:15,355 --> 00:20:16,708
overthinking for sure. But,

573
00:20:17,518 --> 00:20:18,950
I do believe that when you have something

574
00:20:18,950 --> 00:20:21,496
to overcome, then the the pressure is immediately

575
00:20:21,496 --> 00:20:24,335
taken off your shoulder. Because the the the

576
00:20:24,533 --> 00:20:26,839
focus in that let drill race became, can

577
00:20:26,839 --> 00:20:28,907
you make it through stage 1? Yeah. Okay.

578
00:20:29,225 --> 00:20:30,657
Can you make it up to stage 2?

579
00:20:31,054 --> 00:20:33,215
Okay. And in a sense, that's such a

580
00:20:33,215 --> 00:20:35,676
silly lesson that we're taught, like, from super

581
00:20:35,676 --> 00:20:38,614
young athletes. It's like, focus on the present,

582
00:20:39,249 --> 00:20:40,202
be in the moment,

583
00:20:40,694 --> 00:20:43,088
1 thing after the other. 1 thing doesn't

584
00:20:43,088 --> 00:20:45,322
influence the next thing. So it's just like,

585
00:20:45,721 --> 00:20:47,795
really interesting to me how... Yeah.

586
00:20:48,368 --> 00:20:50,117
Yeah. And you're just battling the injury. You're

587
00:20:50,117 --> 00:20:51,787
not battling the time. You're not battling anyone

588
00:20:51,787 --> 00:20:52,661
else. You're just like,

589
00:20:53,297 --> 00:20:54,569
my body not gonna stop me do this.

590
00:20:54,728 --> 00:20:56,572
I'm gonna I'm gonna get it done. Yeah.

591
00:20:56,731 --> 00:21:00,154
So very very interesting. If anybody's got answers,

592
00:21:00,393 --> 00:21:02,486
you know, I'm open, like, please comment.

593
00:21:03,896 --> 00:21:03,976
Yes.

594
00:21:04,947 --> 00:21:07,440
You Paid a lot of like, addresses. So

595
00:21:07,498 --> 00:21:09,810
psychologist and figure it out, so you know.

596
00:21:10,209 --> 00:21:11,267
And you got psychology

597
00:21:12,122 --> 00:21:14,207
qualifications as well. Right? Yeah. I studied the...

598
00:21:14,525 --> 00:21:16,037
I have a bachelor of science and psych.

599
00:21:16,276 --> 00:21:18,504
Yeah. Yeah. And and we're still, like... We're

600
00:21:18,504 --> 00:21:19,777
still here. We're still here.

601
00:21:20,989 --> 00:21:23,226
It's crazy. The minds a complicated thing. Yeah.

602
00:21:23,385 --> 00:21:25,323
It is. It is but it's a wonderfully

603
00:21:25,622 --> 00:21:27,873
strong thing too. And I think it's at

604
00:21:27,873 --> 00:21:29,464
the end of the day it's using the

605
00:21:29,464 --> 00:21:32,248
strength to to to full by performance and

606
00:21:32,248 --> 00:21:33,225
not using

607
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,922
my mind to be in my way. And...

608
00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,547
In a sense, Yes. Harness that strength To

609
00:21:38,547 --> 00:21:41,092
to do well. And then sometimes that's hard

610
00:21:41,092 --> 00:21:41,172
like,

611
00:21:42,064 --> 00:21:43,980
especially when you're confronted with challenges. Yeah so.

612
00:21:44,219 --> 00:21:46,295
For sure. Let's come back to 20 21

613
00:21:46,295 --> 00:21:48,849
lat. Yeah. Yeah You're leading, I think. Yeah.

614
00:21:49,088 --> 00:21:51,419
We need final stage. In the pits, Yeah.

615
00:21:51,659 --> 00:21:53,976
Then there's 1 more stage that's super downhill.

616
00:21:54,456 --> 00:21:56,214
I think Kat wins that 1. And I

617
00:21:56,214 --> 00:21:57,492
have a little bit of a tumble, but,

618
00:21:57,573 --> 00:21:59,490
like, you know, there's good tumble and bad

619
00:21:59,490 --> 00:22:01,581
tumble. That was good 1. Just a little

620
00:22:01,581 --> 00:22:02,698
roll back to the bike.

621
00:22:03,735 --> 00:22:06,207
And then I think I'm, like, ahead by

622
00:22:06,207 --> 00:22:08,361
7 seconds into the last stage. I know.

623
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:09,637
At this point the result.

624
00:22:10,849 --> 00:22:11,910
And then I just

625
00:22:12,529 --> 00:22:14,609
don't believe in it. Like, that that first

626
00:22:14,609 --> 00:22:16,690
time, I'm just, like, oh my god, I

627
00:22:16,690 --> 00:22:17,670
have to do something

628
00:22:18,130 --> 00:22:20,772
insane to keep that lead. Like, I need

629
00:22:20,772 --> 00:22:21,726
to, like,

630
00:22:23,554 --> 00:22:25,621
I don't believe that what I my writing

631
00:22:25,621 --> 00:22:27,131
and what I've been doing is enough, So

632
00:22:27,211 --> 00:22:27,870
I just

633
00:22:28,499 --> 00:22:29,854
clutch collection collection to... And I feel like

634
00:22:29,854 --> 00:22:31,847
a lot of writers who have probably been

635
00:22:31,847 --> 00:22:32,507
in that

636
00:22:33,521 --> 00:22:35,355
position before end up doing that mistake, but,

637
00:22:35,435 --> 00:22:37,762
yeah, I go way too fast. And there's

638
00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,272
a corner with rocks slabs into a flat

639
00:22:41,272 --> 00:22:43,983
right, and I'm just like, yep. I'm not

640
00:22:43,983 --> 00:22:45,978
breaking into that, and I just hit the

641
00:22:45,978 --> 00:22:47,268
ground so hard. I'd don't...

642
00:22:48,141 --> 00:22:50,445
Yeah. Like, 1 of those were just bike

643
00:22:50,445 --> 00:22:51,954
disappear and I stand up and I see

644
00:22:51,954 --> 00:22:53,861
my bike, like, bouncing and stuff. And then

645
00:22:54,020 --> 00:22:56,420
I just told to myself. Well, I guess

646
00:22:56,420 --> 00:22:57,137
you're not winning.

647
00:22:59,924 --> 00:23:02,096
So, yeah. Definitely, like Ru

648
00:23:02,790 --> 00:23:03,290
maneuver

649
00:23:04,158 --> 00:23:06,724
and, like, lots of intros inspection as Gone

650
00:23:06,859 --> 00:23:08,448
since instead then. Yeah I ask, like, what?

651
00:23:08,607 --> 00:23:09,742
Do you... How do you

652
00:23:10,434 --> 00:23:12,117
deal with that? Because you... The win was

653
00:23:12,117 --> 00:23:14,896
there, right? Really? Yeah. Like, yeah. It it

654
00:23:14,896 --> 00:23:16,960
could have been taken yet. Yeah. Hat was

655
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,706
on form and Yeah. I'm sure you've had

656
00:23:18,706 --> 00:23:20,869
a race on, but, like, Yeah. It was

657
00:23:20,869 --> 00:23:23,026
the first time I ended up being in

658
00:23:23,026 --> 00:23:24,405
a a leader

659
00:23:24,864 --> 00:23:25,263
position. Yeah.

660
00:23:26,142 --> 00:23:28,060
I think the only other time. I remember

661
00:23:28,060 --> 00:23:31,182
back Barron calculating... When we did trophy of

662
00:23:31,182 --> 00:23:31,422
nations.

663
00:23:32,059 --> 00:23:34,528
Okay. I had overall fastest time that they...

664
00:23:34,847 --> 00:23:36,839
But That's. It was, like, a team thing

665
00:23:36,839 --> 00:23:37,715
so was different. Yeah.

666
00:23:39,954 --> 00:23:42,257
So, yeah. I don't know. Believe in yourself,

667
00:23:42,496 --> 00:23:43,845
I guess, this is the lesson because if

668
00:23:43,925 --> 00:23:45,513
I had just dropped in being like,

669
00:23:46,307 --> 00:23:46,942
you got this.

670
00:23:47,673 --> 00:23:49,904
I, don't do anything crazy. Not just right.

671
00:23:50,302 --> 00:23:52,931
Just believe that what you're bringing to the

672
00:23:52,931 --> 00:23:54,843
table is enough. Yeah. But it's almost like,

673
00:23:55,082 --> 00:23:57,487
I didn't believe that I could, like, win

674
00:23:57,487 --> 00:23:59,237
1. It was, like... You need to do

675
00:23:59,237 --> 00:24:01,862
something crazy for you to have this. But

676
00:24:01,862 --> 00:24:03,952
now, like, I just should have ridden

677
00:24:04,263 --> 00:24:06,969
So that's that's my learning. Yeah. Yeah. It

678
00:24:06,969 --> 00:24:08,084
has crazy isn't in it that you've... You

679
00:24:08,084 --> 00:24:09,914
know, you've won the pro stage by 7

680
00:24:09,914 --> 00:24:10,312
seconds.

681
00:24:10,790 --> 00:24:12,541
Still At another stage wins and you're still

682
00:24:12,541 --> 00:24:14,627
not, like, able to Yeah. I guess because

683
00:24:14,627 --> 00:24:16,702
it all happened in that same weekend maybe

684
00:24:16,702 --> 00:24:17,601
like it's too

685
00:24:18,219 --> 00:24:20,294
fresh. Yeah. Be like, I've got a history

686
00:24:20,294 --> 00:24:21,730
of this now. I can kinda trust it.

687
00:24:22,144 --> 00:24:24,055
Yeah. Yeah. Because it was, like a bit

688
00:24:24,055 --> 00:24:24,715
of a

689
00:24:25,250 --> 00:24:27,720
bit of a breakthrough performance, You know, I

690
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,508
had been second, third, plenty, but like, to

691
00:24:30,508 --> 00:24:32,115
win a stage by 7 seconds.

692
00:24:32,751 --> 00:24:34,898
Maybe I just thought I was riding on

693
00:24:34,898 --> 00:24:35,398
some

694
00:24:35,931 --> 00:24:37,998
extra things. So I just didn't believe that

695
00:24:37,998 --> 00:24:40,861
what regular Andrea can put in is enough.

696
00:24:41,273 --> 00:24:41,510
Yeah.

697
00:24:42,303 --> 00:24:44,601
It's such corny lessons. Like, it's always that.

698
00:24:44,918 --> 00:24:46,345
I feel like as it more I grow

699
00:24:46,345 --> 00:24:48,326
older the more, like, all these things that

700
00:24:48,326 --> 00:24:50,016
these coaches told you when you were young,

701
00:24:50,255 --> 00:24:52,330
like, they were right. And... If. It is...

702
00:24:52,490 --> 00:24:53,229
It sounds

703
00:24:53,607 --> 00:24:55,123
so simple doesn't it when it's talked about,

704
00:24:55,363 --> 00:24:57,692
but to actually do it. Mh. Like, all

705
00:24:57,692 --> 00:25:00,245
of the lessons are not complicated. Yeah. But

706
00:25:00,245 --> 00:25:02,559
executing on those things is not Yeah. It's

707
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,130
way harder than it actually sounds when you

708
00:25:04,249 --> 00:25:05,916
when someone tells you like just the process.

709
00:25:06,233 --> 00:25:08,298
It's true. It's so true. Yeah.

710
00:25:09,091 --> 00:25:11,950
Wild. Alright. Let's let's hit up With 20

711
00:25:11,950 --> 00:25:12,346
22.

712
00:25:12,902 --> 00:25:15,296
Yeah. Is that... Yeah. It's 20 22. Yeah.

713
00:25:15,534 --> 00:25:16,961
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Chunk us through that 1.

714
00:25:17,912 --> 00:25:20,291
Whistler 20 22. Home race. Love it.

715
00:25:21,416 --> 00:25:21,916
Pleased

716
00:25:22,290 --> 00:25:24,833
Lord. Like if I dream is to have

717
00:25:24,833 --> 00:25:26,740
a need of an Ed and Whistler,

718
00:25:28,011 --> 00:25:29,441
before I retire and honestly,

719
00:25:29,854 --> 00:25:31,133
Time is running out. Like,

720
00:25:33,050 --> 00:25:35,127
I'm definitely gonna be racing full tilt next

721
00:25:35,127 --> 00:25:37,859
year. So Yeah. Fingers trough. Chris paul, if

722
00:25:37,859 --> 00:25:38,259
you're listening.

723
00:25:38,900 --> 00:25:40,820
Yeah. I know. I know they're doing everything

724
00:25:40,820 --> 00:25:42,420
there can to make this series,

725
00:25:43,059 --> 00:25:45,390
go overseas. It's just In a sense like

726
00:25:45,470 --> 00:25:48,097
Covid hit athletes, but Covid also hit the

727
00:25:48,097 --> 00:25:50,326
event organizers across the world. So... And the

728
00:25:50,326 --> 00:25:53,129
sport the industry. Right? We're still recovering. Yeah.

729
00:25:53,288 --> 00:25:55,282
We had the big boom. Now we go

730
00:25:55,282 --> 00:25:57,037
through bounce back through the low. But

731
00:25:57,675 --> 00:25:59,270
so, yeah. That that would definitely be my

732
00:25:59,270 --> 00:26:01,503
dream. So in 20 22, very happy to

733
00:26:01,503 --> 00:26:02,461
have a race with.

734
00:26:03,034 --> 00:26:05,272
Still on the Rocky Mountain program then. So

735
00:26:05,272 --> 00:26:07,370
we have Jesse and Rem and

736
00:26:09,987 --> 00:26:12,545
my mom and brother are there to watch,

737
00:26:13,517 --> 00:26:15,990
we start with 2 stages on black comb,

738
00:26:17,027 --> 00:26:19,659
unreal tracks, like, it's just, you know, in

739
00:26:19,659 --> 00:26:21,573
a sense, I was thinking about Morgan Shaw

740
00:26:21,573 --> 00:26:23,902
who won Comb Blue last weekend and the

741
00:26:23,902 --> 00:26:25,258
way she talked to me out the finish

742
00:26:25,258 --> 00:26:27,093
line, like, she was... I was so happy.

743
00:26:27,333 --> 00:26:29,248
Like it was drifting. I was hooking. It

744
00:26:29,248 --> 00:26:31,812
was perfect. Like, And that's like exactly how

745
00:26:31,812 --> 00:26:33,800
you feel as a Canadian racing whistler, I

746
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,368
think, because it's like what you know and

747
00:26:37,554 --> 00:26:40,268
So, yeah, just super excited, and then we're

748
00:26:40,268 --> 00:26:42,663
on a ride and sq a week before,

749
00:26:42,902 --> 00:26:45,137
and it's a bit drier than I expect,

750
00:26:45,297 --> 00:26:46,983
and I just over cooking it in a

751
00:26:46,983 --> 00:26:48,807
turn, and I crash and I do the

752
00:26:48,807 --> 00:26:49,441
other ankle.

753
00:26:51,185 --> 00:26:53,588
Yeah. Same noise. Same vibe

754
00:26:54,214 --> 00:26:55,830
golf ball size ankle,

755
00:26:56,208 --> 00:26:57,404
and then I'm just like,

756
00:26:58,361 --> 00:27:00,833
not like you gotta just be joking right

757
00:27:00,833 --> 00:27:02,747
now. But at the same time, I'm also

758
00:27:02,747 --> 00:27:04,677
like, oh, I know I can do this.

759
00:27:05,236 --> 00:27:07,471
Yeah. We've been there before. Yeah. Go get

760
00:27:07,471 --> 00:27:09,009
an x ray, whatever,

761
00:27:09,547 --> 00:27:10,047
same

762
00:27:10,425 --> 00:27:11,303
old story.

763
00:27:13,074 --> 00:27:16,018
So, yeah. And a bit of a better

764
00:27:16,018 --> 00:27:17,848
turnaround, like, it's not, like,

765
00:27:18,565 --> 00:27:20,236
the night before the race. So,

766
00:27:21,032 --> 00:27:21,907
it's a week before.

767
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,388
So, yeah, a bit of a twist of

768
00:27:24,388 --> 00:27:27,013
events and then honestly, annoy. So, like a,

769
00:27:27,093 --> 00:27:28,684
like, the fact that this is happening to

770
00:27:28,684 --> 00:27:31,494
me again. And then also the over thinker

771
00:27:31,494 --> 00:27:33,654
in myself of being like, are you doing

772
00:27:33,654 --> 00:27:34,214
this to yourself?

773
00:27:34,855 --> 00:27:37,674
Like, what's going on, you know? And then

774
00:27:38,788 --> 00:27:39,687
Yeah. So

775
00:27:40,065 --> 00:27:41,821
micro climate, I think was the first stage.

776
00:27:42,140 --> 00:27:42,300
Yeah.

777
00:27:43,577 --> 00:27:44,077
And

778
00:27:44,854 --> 00:27:47,022
I ended up winning that 1 by a

779
00:27:47,022 --> 00:27:48,136
hair in front of Visa.

780
00:27:48,693 --> 00:27:51,318
So I was like, okay. Like, this can

781
00:27:51,318 --> 00:27:52,693
work, you know, but,

782
00:27:53,799 --> 00:27:56,047
Yeah. Definitely lot not like your magical

783
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,408
home race. I did a few mistakes along

784
00:27:58,408 --> 00:28:00,315
the day as well. It was a bit

785
00:28:00,315 --> 00:28:00,974
of a

786
00:28:01,843 --> 00:28:03,599
the Black comb was, like, 1 2 stage

787
00:28:03,599 --> 00:28:05,116
is done, and then there was like, a

788
00:28:05,116 --> 00:28:07,212
whole other race, like, where we had to

789
00:28:07,431 --> 00:28:09,346
go up. We had, like, a ga stage,

790
00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:10,959
then we hiked to all the way up

791
00:28:10,959 --> 00:28:12,876
to Ride down slide into baby heads, which

792
00:28:12,876 --> 00:28:15,113
was my biggest test of the day as

793
00:28:15,113 --> 00:28:17,350
well, just w up to the stage.

794
00:28:18,482 --> 00:28:21,196
But on stage 3, which was... I think

795
00:28:21,196 --> 00:28:22,792
it was, like, mis fire to delayed fuse

796
00:28:22,792 --> 00:28:23,669
or something like that.

797
00:28:24,388 --> 00:28:24,888
I

798
00:28:26,636 --> 00:28:28,309
my chain guide was weird at the start,

799
00:28:28,468 --> 00:28:29,903
just, like, 5 routers before I dress so

800
00:28:29,982 --> 00:28:31,735
I, like, panicked a bit, worked on my

801
00:28:31,735 --> 00:28:33,742
chain, put it back. And then forgot to

802
00:28:33,742 --> 00:28:35,892
put my clutch on. Oh, no way. Yeah.

803
00:28:36,131 --> 00:28:38,281
And that's just like such a Pee mistake.

804
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,352
You do it once. But then I drop

805
00:28:40,352 --> 00:28:40,989
in and I'm like,

806
00:28:42,119 --> 00:28:43,553
And I hear it, and I'm, like, it'll

807
00:28:43,553 --> 00:28:44,986
be fine. It'll be fine. It'll be fine.

808
00:28:45,385 --> 00:28:45,885
And

809
00:28:46,261 --> 00:28:48,093
my own fault, but my chain ended up

810
00:28:48,093 --> 00:28:48,593
dropping

811
00:28:49,527 --> 00:28:52,352
into delayed fuse, which is, like, pretty technical

812
00:28:52,489 --> 00:28:53,921
and, like, ends with a little bit of

813
00:28:53,921 --> 00:28:55,592
pedal onto a flow track, and I was

814
00:28:55,592 --> 00:28:59,069
like, no. Like no way. So I actually

815
00:28:59,269 --> 00:29:01,263
finished third on that stage. U.

816
00:29:01,981 --> 00:29:03,815
Because I think I was so focused on

817
00:29:03,815 --> 00:29:06,128
corner and keeping my speed up. Yeah. And

818
00:29:06,128 --> 00:29:08,042
then honestly, I got to the bottom of

819
00:29:08,042 --> 00:29:09,892
that, and I was, like, I can do

820
00:29:09,892 --> 00:29:10,371
anything.

821
00:29:11,328 --> 00:29:13,561
Smash third with they change. Yeah. Yeah. So

822
00:29:13,561 --> 00:29:15,475
it was that energy of just, like,

823
00:29:16,353 --> 00:29:17,948
absolute fuel where you like, You're just, like,

824
00:29:18,107 --> 00:29:20,359
okay. I can do anything. Like, let's go.

825
00:29:20,519 --> 00:29:21,799
Like bring on the next thing.

826
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,100
And then

827
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,920
go up to ride down slide.

828
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,855
Ride ride down slide. This just super hot

829
00:29:27,974 --> 00:29:29,960
day Is a pretty hard raise for everybody,

830
00:29:30,199 --> 00:29:31,335
I think. And

831
00:29:32,980 --> 00:29:34,649
yeah, Ride Ride don't slide, and I get

832
00:29:34,649 --> 00:29:36,849
this weird feeling. Of, like, lots of track,

833
00:29:37,289 --> 00:29:39,606
and then I'm just like, nah. Like, no.

834
00:29:39,766 --> 00:29:41,844
It's it's fine. Ignore it. And honestly,

835
00:29:43,203 --> 00:29:44,721
as you can probably tell by the time

836
00:29:44,721 --> 00:29:46,732
we're in this podcast, I overthink. Quite a

837
00:29:46,732 --> 00:29:46,891
lot.

838
00:29:47,687 --> 00:29:49,596
So I'm, like, you're just thinking that. Like,

839
00:29:49,675 --> 00:29:51,505
you don't have a... Your tire not losing

840
00:29:51,505 --> 00:29:53,016
air. Yeah. Like, you're just thinking that whatever.

841
00:29:53,509 --> 00:29:54,950
Keep going. And then I get to the

842
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:56,730
bottom, and then we have to

843
00:29:57,269 --> 00:29:59,350
hike back up to 11 99,

844
00:30:00,309 --> 00:30:03,357
and transfers room pretty tight that day. So,

845
00:30:04,314 --> 00:30:06,226
because of the res receipt from pro stage,

846
00:30:06,464 --> 00:30:09,014
I guess, I started last to get to

847
00:30:09,014 --> 00:30:10,607
the bottom the girls are there, and then

848
00:30:10,687 --> 00:30:12,535
I just go to fill my bottle, and

849
00:30:12,615 --> 00:30:14,289
I go to start to transfer and my

850
00:30:14,289 --> 00:30:14,767
tire is flat.

851
00:30:15,564 --> 00:30:17,637
And then everybody's, like, he okay. Can you...

852
00:30:17,796 --> 00:30:19,151
And I was like, yep. I'm fine.

853
00:30:19,804 --> 00:30:22,678
Don't worry and just, like, immediate solution mode,

854
00:30:22,837 --> 00:30:24,514
and then I just, like, try to fix

855
00:30:24,514 --> 00:30:26,908
my tire, put my tube in my tube

856
00:30:26,908 --> 00:30:28,446
that I was carrying for

857
00:30:28,919 --> 00:30:32,025
good God how many races, how a a

858
00:30:32,025 --> 00:30:33,242
hole in it. So,

859
00:30:34,176 --> 00:30:36,486
I have, like, insane arm pump from where

860
00:30:36,486 --> 00:30:38,891
ride don't live, and then I take it

861
00:30:38,891 --> 00:30:41,361
back out. Adrian Da, I think comes,

862
00:30:42,396 --> 00:30:44,308
ends up fixing my flap, but I've already

863
00:30:44,308 --> 00:30:46,140
lost, like, 10 minutes. Yeah. Because there's a

864
00:30:46,140 --> 00:30:47,038
delay between

865
00:30:47,509 --> 00:30:49,282
top man and female. So

866
00:30:50,773 --> 00:30:52,524
yeah, fix my tire or whatever. And then

867
00:30:52,524 --> 00:30:55,151
my buddy Mckay actually shows up. And, like,

868
00:30:55,723 --> 00:30:57,873
It's like a movie moment of my life

869
00:30:57,873 --> 00:31:00,261
fisher like, grabs my chin bar,

870
00:31:01,455 --> 00:31:04,894
and he's like, you're not losing on this

871
00:31:04,894 --> 00:31:05,394
transfer.

872
00:31:05,929 --> 00:31:08,478
And then I was like, holly heck comes

873
00:31:08,478 --> 00:31:09,775
to leading like

874
00:31:11,439 --> 00:31:13,189
I guess we forgot to talk about pro

875
00:31:13,189 --> 00:31:15,335
stage because there was pro stage of that

876
00:31:15,335 --> 00:31:17,561
race too, and it was 11 99. Okay.

877
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,395
And Hat had 1 at Oh, no. I

878
00:31:21,395 --> 00:31:23,227
think I had 1, but we were pretty...

879
00:31:23,625 --> 00:31:25,139
I think I was second on this stage

880
00:31:25,139 --> 00:31:26,653
yet. And it was just a big drop

881
00:31:26,653 --> 00:31:28,644
and everything so At races just so cool.

882
00:31:29,361 --> 00:31:31,928
Anyway, I'm, like smashed at this point. And

883
00:31:31,928 --> 00:31:34,502
we're trying to walk up this transfer

884
00:31:34,879 --> 00:31:36,634
pedal walk, and I'm just, like,

885
00:31:37,352 --> 00:31:39,208
completely out of it because

886
00:31:39,999 --> 00:31:42,477
I'm everything's hitting me. I'm like, my ankle

887
00:31:42,477 --> 00:31:44,235
barely works. I had a flat. I dropped

888
00:31:44,235 --> 00:31:46,393
the chain. I have to do this transfer

889
00:31:46,393 --> 00:31:48,151
with, like, 10 minutes off, and we've been

890
00:31:48,151 --> 00:31:48,710
tight all day.

891
00:31:49,364 --> 00:31:52,954
And then Jesse, and, know, Mack mckay and

892
00:31:53,034 --> 00:31:53,512
Jose,

893
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:54,970
Bo

894
00:31:55,507 --> 00:31:57,593
ended up like, kind of pushing my bike,

895
00:31:57,832 --> 00:32:00,378
like, pushing me, like, really, like cheering me

896
00:32:00,378 --> 00:32:01,810
on the whole time and,

897
00:32:03,242 --> 00:32:04,754
Thomas Van ham who,

898
00:32:05,884 --> 00:32:07,878
in those years, like, we became super tight

899
00:32:07,878 --> 00:32:09,393
and he helped me with my riding quite

900
00:32:09,393 --> 00:32:11,467
a bit, and I never thought I would

901
00:32:11,467 --> 00:32:13,541
get him to agree to come to practice

902
00:32:13,541 --> 00:32:15,556
and Ed with me. But he

903
00:32:15,868 --> 00:32:17,458
I ended up pitching it to him because

904
00:32:17,696 --> 00:32:19,286
I had Ironed him as, like, a bit

905
00:32:19,286 --> 00:32:21,353
of a technical coach over the winter. And

906
00:32:21,353 --> 00:32:22,704
then I just took a chance and I

907
00:32:22,704 --> 00:32:24,214
was like, hey, mate. Like, you think he

908
00:32:24,214 --> 00:32:26,453
wanna, like, come to the world of and

909
00:32:26,533 --> 00:32:28,359
I practiced to me and I thought for

910
00:32:28,359 --> 00:32:29,153
sure you'd say that.

911
00:32:30,266 --> 00:32:32,648
And he ended up coming, and we had

912
00:32:32,648 --> 00:32:34,529
done all the practice together and

913
00:32:36,009 --> 00:32:37,450
he was waiting on the top and I

914
00:32:37,450 --> 00:32:38,890
wasn't showing up. So he kinda, like, cruise

915
00:32:38,890 --> 00:32:40,250
down the transfer and he saw me, and

916
00:32:40,330 --> 00:32:42,410
I had, like, the c go over my

917
00:32:42,410 --> 00:32:45,061
shoulders like, just like, absolute wrecked, and then

918
00:32:45,061 --> 00:32:47,216
he was just like, can I do anything

919
00:32:47,216 --> 00:32:49,292
to help? And I was like, no. Like

920
00:32:49,292 --> 00:32:51,767
can. You can just like be there. And

921
00:32:51,767 --> 00:32:52,006
then,

922
00:32:52,899 --> 00:32:54,892
he was just like... And I that him

923
00:32:54,972 --> 00:32:56,965
I was like, that's, like in daryl rock

924
00:32:56,965 --> 00:32:57,284
potter.

925
00:32:58,081 --> 00:32:59,277
This is as bad as it gets.

926
00:32:59,994 --> 00:33:02,396
And we don't know if we're making this

927
00:33:02,396 --> 00:33:04,693
transfers so so we're going as hard as

928
00:33:04,693 --> 00:33:05,748
we can, and then

929
00:33:06,199 --> 00:33:07,625
we get to the top and there is

930
00:33:07,625 --> 00:33:10,188
a course hold. So So we have actually,

931
00:33:10,268 --> 00:33:12,585
like, a 30 or whatever minutes delay.

932
00:33:13,544 --> 00:33:15,143
And I make it. So I'm just like,

933
00:33:15,542 --> 00:33:17,061
okay. And then I just rest.

934
00:33:18,353 --> 00:33:20,206
We pump up my tire pretty

935
00:33:20,819 --> 00:33:22,728
to make sure because I... There was the

936
00:33:22,728 --> 00:33:24,478
big step down, the rook out, and I

937
00:33:24,478 --> 00:33:26,798
was like, I don't wanna flat again, You

938
00:33:26,798 --> 00:33:28,466
know, and that all the bike park as

939
00:33:28,466 --> 00:33:29,760
well. So,

940
00:33:30,134 --> 00:33:30,372
yeah.

941
00:33:32,119 --> 00:33:34,761
I drop in and then my race ran

942
00:33:34,761 --> 00:33:36,517
in the pro stage, which was 11 90

943
00:33:36,517 --> 00:33:38,113
and 9 I was super hectic. Like, the

944
00:33:38,113 --> 00:33:40,507
start super wild, like, not perfect at all.

945
00:33:40,666 --> 00:33:42,749
And I was, like, Let's just ride. And

946
00:33:42,749 --> 00:33:43,384
at this point,

947
00:33:44,734 --> 00:33:46,958
I know I've I've been here. Like, I've

948
00:33:46,958 --> 00:33:48,943
had a blessed day and I was leading

949
00:33:48,943 --> 00:33:51,181
race in 23 1 in Lit. And I

950
00:33:51,181 --> 00:33:53,088
was like, you didn't believe in yourself then,

951
00:33:53,723 --> 00:33:56,265
like believe in yourself now. And then all

952
00:33:56,265 --> 00:33:58,807
the girls are kinda like, oh, like repeat.

953
00:33:59,046 --> 00:34:00,888
Like and I even remember, like back looking

954
00:34:00,888 --> 00:34:03,193
at me and being like, yeah. Like, you

955
00:34:03,193 --> 00:34:04,623
got this, and then I was just like,

956
00:34:04,782 --> 00:34:06,951
oh, I don't. And then

957
00:34:08,614 --> 00:34:10,214
So at this point, I'm really trying not

958
00:34:10,214 --> 00:34:12,134
to make the same mistake coming. Yeah. It's,

959
00:34:12,214 --> 00:34:12,454
like,

960
00:34:13,094 --> 00:34:15,974
year enough. I'm so corny. Like, you're enough.

961
00:34:16,630 --> 00:34:18,710
You should believe in your riding what you're

962
00:34:18,710 --> 00:34:20,789
putting on the track is good. Yeah. And

963
00:34:20,950 --> 00:34:23,530
I'm just ready to have, like, a good

964
00:34:24,483 --> 00:34:27,428
run. And then I start. I'll just hit

965
00:34:27,428 --> 00:34:28,963
all the little things perfect.

966
00:34:29,657 --> 00:34:32,124
Hit the rock gap into the wooden step

967
00:34:32,124 --> 00:34:33,557
down, and then I just like,

968
00:34:35,003 --> 00:34:37,546
think like I really don't wanna be short

969
00:34:37,546 --> 00:34:38,500
on this step down.

970
00:34:39,135 --> 00:34:41,043
First because it's massive. You really don't wanna

971
00:34:41,043 --> 00:34:43,364
be short on it. But also because I

972
00:34:43,364 --> 00:34:46,080
don't wanna risk my tire. Yeah. So I'm,

973
00:34:46,161 --> 00:34:48,078
like, let's just push real hard into these

974
00:34:48,078 --> 00:34:52,081
2 burns, and it's way drier. Than the

975
00:34:52,081 --> 00:34:54,227
day before when we did pro stage. And

976
00:34:54,386 --> 00:34:56,293
I just pushed into the right right before

977
00:34:56,293 --> 00:34:58,304
the wooden ramp, and I just

978
00:34:58,773 --> 00:35:01,715
flight out. No way. Yeah. And it was

979
00:35:01,715 --> 00:35:02,034
like...

980
00:35:03,545 --> 00:35:05,709
Yeah. It was this... I was smart. You

981
00:35:05,709 --> 00:35:07,867
know? I wasn't it wasn't dumb. Yeah. Like

982
00:35:08,027 --> 00:35:11,064
I was trying to ride smart, and then

983
00:35:11,224 --> 00:35:13,941
I misread how dry it was, misread that

984
00:35:13,941 --> 00:35:15,240
maybe my tire had

985
00:35:15,714 --> 00:35:17,552
quite a bit more pressure. So maybe Okay.

986
00:35:17,792 --> 00:35:19,789
A little less traction into the be, and

987
00:35:19,869 --> 00:35:21,707
I just... Maybe the be was more used

988
00:35:21,707 --> 00:35:23,785
than yesterday too because more rider had gone

989
00:35:23,785 --> 00:35:25,951
through. So, like, a bit of a a

990
00:35:25,951 --> 00:35:28,657
few things compounded, and then I'm just sliding,

991
00:35:28,816 --> 00:35:31,363
and I have that sequence of photos from,

992
00:35:31,522 --> 00:35:33,838
like, a dad that was watching with his

993
00:35:33,838 --> 00:35:36,136
kids, and it's just like 5 photos of

994
00:35:36,136 --> 00:35:38,434
me sliding, and I... When I really wanna

995
00:35:38,434 --> 00:35:40,139
hurt my feelings, I look back

996
00:35:40,673 --> 00:35:42,582
what's your dreams washing away.

997
00:35:43,378 --> 00:35:45,366
Yeah. And then I just like,

998
00:35:46,734 --> 00:35:48,193
Yeah. It was like, just

999
00:35:48,732 --> 00:35:50,490
not even... Like, you know, the first time

1000
00:35:50,570 --> 00:35:51,609
I stood up and I was like, well,

1001
00:35:51,768 --> 00:35:53,047
are you're really not doing this this time,

1002
00:35:53,286 --> 00:35:54,565
but then I was it was just like,

1003
00:35:55,699 --> 00:35:58,099
no. Like, no way. And then I was

1004
00:35:58,099 --> 00:35:59,940
just like, I'm cursed. Like, and I'm like,

1005
00:36:00,099 --> 00:36:02,019
what the hell? You know? And so I

1006
00:36:02,019 --> 00:36:04,260
go back I keep going. I think Kat

1007
00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:05,952
catches me a bit down, and then I

1008
00:36:05,952 --> 00:36:08,846
was like, well, definitely not women. And then

1009
00:36:09,383 --> 00:36:09,941
I was, like,

1010
00:36:10,739 --> 00:36:12,829
crossed the line, and then it says, that

1011
00:36:12,989 --> 00:36:14,288
I'm fifth. So

1012
00:36:14,746 --> 00:36:17,143
not only am I not winning. I don't

1013
00:36:17,143 --> 00:36:18,581
get to be on the podium at my

1014
00:36:18,581 --> 00:36:19,060
home race,

1015
00:36:19,713 --> 00:36:21,145
I don't get to be on the podium

1016
00:36:21,145 --> 00:36:22,974
when Jesse and Ram were both on the

1017
00:36:22,974 --> 00:36:23,293
podium.

1018
00:36:23,929 --> 00:36:26,076
When everybody from the brand I rode for

1019
00:36:26,076 --> 00:36:26,554
was there.

1020
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:27,428
Like,

1021
00:36:28,717 --> 00:36:31,422
Absolutely. I remember we used to debrief as

1022
00:36:31,422 --> 00:36:33,571
a team, and we were debrief at the

1023
00:36:33,810 --> 00:36:35,322
Chicago airport because we were on the way

1024
00:36:35,322 --> 00:36:37,073
to Be. Yeah. And I remember, like,

1025
00:36:38,044 --> 00:36:39,960
stop crying and just being like, I can't

1026
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,035
believe, like, I didn't deliver this for my

1027
00:36:42,035 --> 00:36:43,632
team, you know, to have the 3 of

1028
00:36:43,632 --> 00:36:44,132
us

1029
00:36:44,510 --> 00:36:46,127
on the podium. So

1030
00:36:47,078 --> 00:36:48,513
Yeah. Bit of a bit of a bummer.

1031
00:36:48,752 --> 00:36:50,665
How you. How do you... Yeah. How do

1032
00:36:50,665 --> 00:36:52,041
you deal with that then? Because,

1033
00:36:52,418 --> 00:36:53,635
like, it feels like

1034
00:36:54,985 --> 00:36:56,824
Okay. You could... Yeah. I mean, you could

1035
00:36:56,824 --> 00:36:58,585
blame yourself for these things. Right? But also

1036
00:36:58,585 --> 00:37:00,905
there's feels like there's some fate creeping into

1037
00:37:00,905 --> 00:37:02,000
some of this stuff. I don't know if

1038
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:03,388
whether we believe in that or not, who

1039
00:37:03,388 --> 00:37:05,848
knows. But, like. You've had the victory snatched

1040
00:37:05,848 --> 00:37:08,229
away from you. Yeah. Twice. Yeah.

1041
00:37:08,943 --> 00:37:10,664
And especially in whistler let you say that's

1042
00:37:10,943 --> 00:37:12,453
even more painful like. Yeah.

1043
00:37:13,645 --> 00:37:14,599
How do you deal with it? I guess

1044
00:37:14,599 --> 00:37:15,496
there must be

1045
00:37:15,950 --> 00:37:17,301
when the results aren't going in the way

1046
00:37:17,301 --> 00:37:18,414
you want there must be some kind of

1047
00:37:18,414 --> 00:37:19,447
darker times or suppose.

1048
00:37:20,655 --> 00:37:22,566
Yeah. I guess, I was just like,

1049
00:37:24,794 --> 00:37:26,306
honestly, kinda numb. Like,

1050
00:37:27,992 --> 00:37:28,492
And

1051
00:37:29,262 --> 00:37:30,318
then other

1052
00:37:31,248 --> 00:37:34,424
competitors like Isa, who I'm actually really tight

1053
00:37:34,424 --> 00:37:35,139
with, like,

1054
00:37:35,789 --> 00:37:37,945
writes to me this amazing card, and she's

1055
00:37:37,945 --> 00:37:39,780
just like the climb and the fight is

1056
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:42,915
cooler than the winning. Like it's like, everything's

1057
00:37:43,293 --> 00:37:44,331
in this and, like,

1058
00:37:47,065 --> 00:37:48,585
in a sense, I think it like dis

1059
00:37:48,585 --> 00:37:51,625
associated me from the process and made me

1060
00:37:51,625 --> 00:37:54,195
not believe in doing all the process to

1061
00:37:54,195 --> 00:37:56,746
get the outcome because I had been doing

1062
00:37:56,746 --> 00:37:59,001
the process, and I felt like I wasn't

1063
00:37:59,857 --> 00:38:02,010
receiving the outcome I wanted. Yeah. So, like,

1064
00:38:02,343 --> 00:38:03,612
20 23

1065
00:38:03,612 --> 00:38:06,548
was actually, like, really weird for me season

1066
00:38:06,548 --> 00:38:09,483
wise because I was almost disconnected from doing

1067
00:38:09,483 --> 00:38:11,640
that process because it's it is ever consuming.

1068
00:38:11,799 --> 00:38:14,338
Like, to be at the world level. And

1069
00:38:14,338 --> 00:38:16,003
when we have riders like Ea and Richie

1070
00:38:16,003 --> 00:38:16,876
to deliver, like,

1071
00:38:18,163 --> 00:38:20,317
consistently, like, they do like, that's insane. Like,

1072
00:38:20,396 --> 00:38:22,789
there's so many variables that have to come

1073
00:38:22,789 --> 00:38:24,703
in, like, whether it'd be reading if the

1074
00:38:24,703 --> 00:38:25,980
burn is a bit... Like, you know? Yeah

1075
00:38:26,059 --> 00:38:27,988
Yeah. There's so so many things have to

1076
00:38:27,988 --> 00:38:30,139
come together. So I really respect people that

1077
00:38:30,139 --> 00:38:32,051
can deliver at that level and.

1078
00:38:33,325 --> 00:38:35,331
Yeah. In 20 20, I was like, I'm

1079
00:38:35,331 --> 00:38:37,399
owed this outcome. Like, I I know I

1080
00:38:37,399 --> 00:38:39,149
can. I've proven I can, like, so I

1081
00:38:39,149 --> 00:38:41,535
was angry almost. Yeah. Was just... And I

1082
00:38:41,535 --> 00:38:43,618
didn't really like my day today which is

1083
00:38:43,618 --> 00:38:45,446
a bit sad. Okay. Whatever your job is.

1084
00:38:45,684 --> 00:38:46,002
Yeah. Yeah.

1085
00:38:47,433 --> 00:38:50,532
So, yeah. Like a huge disconnect and, like,

1086
00:38:51,262 --> 00:38:53,879
riding, like, not making myself proud and, like,

1087
00:38:54,117 --> 00:38:56,655
having crashes because, like, trying to do too

1088
00:38:56,655 --> 00:38:59,764
much, like, not believing that I, I was

1089
00:38:59,764 --> 00:39:02,226
doing well and... Yeah. So just like,

1090
00:39:03,179 --> 00:39:05,244
not cool. Yeah. It doesn't sound like a

1091
00:39:05,244 --> 00:39:08,595
fun year. No. No. 20 23 was was

1092
00:39:08,595 --> 00:39:10,184
hard on me. Yeah for sure. Getting in

1093
00:39:10,184 --> 00:39:11,138
your head of it as well I guess,

1094
00:39:11,296 --> 00:39:12,647
like it's a bit of a downward spiral

1095
00:39:12,647 --> 00:39:14,395
with that kind of stuff. Yeah. And isn't

1096
00:39:14,395 --> 00:39:16,475
it funny that, like you just as an

1097
00:39:16,475 --> 00:39:18,619
athlete that you're there, and then you kinda

1098
00:39:18,619 --> 00:39:20,047
know what you have to do to get

1099
00:39:20,047 --> 00:39:21,238
out of it. But like you said, like,

1100
00:39:21,556 --> 00:39:22,056
applying

1101
00:39:22,746 --> 00:39:24,864
those lessons and applying those

1102
00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:28,080
at the advice that people give you, like,

1103
00:39:28,557 --> 00:39:30,860
it it takes a lot for things to,

1104
00:39:31,018 --> 00:39:32,710
like, go into

1105
00:39:33,179 --> 00:39:35,493
a good motion. Yeah so. You kinda got

1106
00:39:35,493 --> 00:39:36,472
locked into,

1107
00:39:36,849 --> 00:39:39,163
like, measuring yourself in results instead of in

1108
00:39:39,163 --> 00:39:40,774
process. Right? Because you a lost a bit

1109
00:39:40,774 --> 00:39:42,928
of faith in the process. Absolutely. Yeah Yeah.

1110
00:39:43,088 --> 00:39:45,082
And I knew I always said you have

1111
00:39:45,082 --> 00:39:46,678
to be in the process. You have to

1112
00:39:46,678 --> 00:39:49,248
believe in the process, but also realized like,

1113
00:39:49,407 --> 00:39:51,165
not to use big words, but like,

1114
00:39:51,964 --> 00:39:54,301
I've been my eraser since I was

1115
00:39:55,651 --> 00:39:57,744
you know, very young. I had a full

1116
00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,427
career of believing in the process, and and

1117
00:40:00,587 --> 00:40:04,026
I had the days. Of big obsessed and

1118
00:40:04,026 --> 00:40:06,019
a bit of a harder time believing that

1119
00:40:06,019 --> 00:40:08,410
process. So maybe I was just burnt out

1120
00:40:08,410 --> 00:40:10,642
last year. Yeah. I realized, like, maybe I

1121
00:40:10,642 --> 00:40:13,129
was just Maybe I shouldn't have been trying

1122
00:40:13,129 --> 00:40:15,043
to push myself on the world cup circuit,

1123
00:40:15,203 --> 00:40:15,703
but

1124
00:40:16,240 --> 00:40:16,979
I believed

1125
00:40:17,516 --> 00:40:20,228
I should still, and I was supported by

1126
00:40:20,228 --> 00:40:21,320
a team and

1127
00:40:23,034 --> 00:40:25,027
I didn't wanna have a disconnect because I

1128
00:40:25,027 --> 00:40:26,542
didn't know if I could bring it back,

1129
00:40:26,702 --> 00:40:27,100
you know.

1130
00:40:27,659 --> 00:40:29,913
So... But looking back, definitely

1131
00:40:30,543 --> 00:40:32,692
my hundred percent wasn't a hundred percent last

1132
00:40:32,692 --> 00:40:34,919
year. I gave everything I had, but it

1133
00:40:34,919 --> 00:40:37,465
wasn't a hundred. You went the full Am.

1134
00:40:37,704 --> 00:40:38,977
Like you. No. Yeah.

1135
00:40:39,629 --> 00:40:40,585
How do you go and find the full

1136
00:40:40,824 --> 00:40:41,063
Ellen?

1137
00:40:41,701 --> 00:40:42,896
Yeah. It was a bit of a class

1138
00:40:42,896 --> 00:40:43,396
honestly.

1139
00:40:45,287 --> 00:40:47,142
Kind of knew that I needed

1140
00:40:47,454 --> 00:40:47,954
change

1141
00:40:48,331 --> 00:40:48,731
for sure.

1142
00:40:49,449 --> 00:40:51,124
Like, because you had a bit of change

1143
00:40:51,124 --> 00:40:52,720
in 20 23 in a way. Right? Because

1144
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,715
Jesse left the team. Canyon.

1145
00:40:55,208 --> 00:40:56,241
And I'm I right I think he took

1146
00:40:56,241 --> 00:40:57,615
his mechanic Ant tara

1147
00:40:58,228 --> 00:40:59,976
with him. Ant tara was, like your ph,

1148
00:41:00,056 --> 00:41:01,646
but I think a lot more than that

1149
00:41:01,646 --> 00:41:04,124
in as well Yeah. Charter was actually my

1150
00:41:04,124 --> 00:41:07,064
mechanic. So Charter ended up going with Jesse.

1151
00:41:08,494 --> 00:41:10,162
I think the correct way to say it,

1152
00:41:10,242 --> 00:41:12,402
it would actually be to say that T

1153
00:41:12,402 --> 00:41:15,025
went to work for Canyon. Okay. And at

1154
00:41:15,025 --> 00:41:16,773
the end of the day, like, people who

1155
00:41:16,773 --> 00:41:18,623
work for teams like, there are people

1156
00:41:18,934 --> 00:41:21,744
trying to, making a living And, like, working

1157
00:41:21,961 --> 00:41:24,373
conditions. And so everybody kind of

1158
00:41:26,597 --> 00:41:28,509
went to themselves and being, like, what do

1159
00:41:28,588 --> 00:41:30,580
I want for myself? Yeah. And then made

1160
00:41:30,580 --> 00:41:32,992
those decision based on that? And I really

1161
00:41:33,208 --> 00:41:35,772
respect It was hard. Yeah. Because I think

1162
00:41:35,772 --> 00:41:38,640
any team environment that was successful when it

1163
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,392
does come to a change or an end.

1164
00:41:40,551 --> 00:41:41,768
Yeah. Is difficult.

1165
00:41:42,304 --> 00:41:44,429
I think where Eye maybe was wrong as

1166
00:41:44,629 --> 00:41:46,703
I didn't go to myself. I didn't go

1167
00:41:46,703 --> 00:41:47,899
to myself and be like, wait...

1168
00:41:48,776 --> 00:41:50,770
What do I need? Yeah. I just stayed

1169
00:41:50,770 --> 00:41:52,206
and I was like, I need to keep

1170
00:41:52,206 --> 00:41:54,414
this program going. Like, I believe in this

1171
00:41:54,534 --> 00:41:56,919
program. Yeah. I want this team to be

1172
00:41:56,919 --> 00:42:00,202
a legacy for the upcoming North American riders

1173
00:42:00,259 --> 00:42:02,326
because, honestly, it's hard to have, like, a

1174
00:42:02,326 --> 00:42:04,881
pro team from North America on the circuit.

1175
00:42:05,278 --> 00:42:07,103
So I just really believed in that, but

1176
00:42:07,103 --> 00:42:09,643
then I was, like, fully not looking after

1177
00:42:09,643 --> 00:42:12,855
myself. It my focus was so outward. So

1178
00:42:14,577 --> 00:42:16,639
I don't think that changed in that changed

1179
00:42:16,639 --> 00:42:18,726
in 20 23. I don't think it served

1180
00:42:18,726 --> 00:42:20,642
me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No That makes total.

1181
00:42:20,961 --> 00:42:21,840
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1182
00:42:22,558 --> 00:42:23,058
So,

1183
00:42:23,755 --> 00:42:26,151
yeah. I just finished 23 23, and I

1184
00:42:26,151 --> 00:42:29,994
was, like, Well, first, ph physically mentally physiological,

1185
00:42:30,234 --> 00:42:31,989
I can't do another season like this. Okay.

1186
00:42:33,026 --> 00:42:35,498
So I'm sorry. Right. That's step 1. Yeah.

1187
00:42:35,817 --> 00:42:36,317
So

1188
00:42:37,588 --> 00:42:39,503
where do I find what I need?

1189
00:42:40,142 --> 00:42:40,642
And

1190
00:42:43,015 --> 00:42:45,011
yeah, It was the tough time of the

1191
00:42:45,011 --> 00:42:46,324
industry to? Probably

1192
00:42:46,784 --> 00:42:48,164
the worst time to

1193
00:42:48,465 --> 00:42:49,425
try and change. Yeah.

1194
00:42:50,784 --> 00:42:53,344
Everybody thought I was kind of crazy when

1195
00:42:53,505 --> 00:42:55,045
I said I was leaving

1196
00:42:55,358 --> 00:42:56,869
So that was your decision, then it wasn't

1197
00:42:56,869 --> 00:42:58,618
that Rocky wanted to change things up. It

1198
00:42:58,618 --> 00:43:00,367
was... You you were like right. I need

1199
00:43:00,367 --> 00:43:03,284
to yes crushing things. In a in a

1200
00:43:03,404 --> 00:43:04,763
ci substantial way,

1201
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,598
everybody was kind of on 2 years, but

1202
00:43:08,598 --> 00:43:11,807
me. So I was getting resigned. And then

1203
00:43:11,807 --> 00:43:13,184
there was movement within,

1204
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,713
how the team was gonna be organized. It's

1205
00:43:15,713 --> 00:43:16,670
now ran by

1206
00:43:17,945 --> 00:43:21,229
Lu, who also, and runs runs the Lu

1207
00:43:21,308 --> 00:43:23,620
World cup. Okay and, like, had kind of

1208
00:43:23,620 --> 00:43:26,490
a Rocky development team. So now it's based

1209
00:43:26,490 --> 00:43:27,048
in Europe.

1210
00:43:28,259 --> 00:43:29,691
So that was a big change for me

1211
00:43:29,691 --> 00:43:31,442
as well if I was gonna jump on

1212
00:43:31,442 --> 00:43:33,692
board with that program. And then,

1213
00:43:34,386 --> 00:43:36,534
yeah. I kinda realized everything was gonna change

1214
00:43:36,534 --> 00:43:38,538
at that point. And then I was, like,

1215
00:43:38,776 --> 00:43:40,286
what do I need? What do I want?

1216
00:43:40,605 --> 00:43:41,081
And

1217
00:43:42,831 --> 00:43:45,056
yeah. I think I raised the downhill world

1218
00:43:45,056 --> 00:43:48,099
cup in, and then I was finishing my

1219
00:43:48,099 --> 00:43:50,179
first practice lap, and I just saw the

1220
00:43:50,179 --> 00:43:52,819
guy from comments all Canada, and I'd never

1221
00:43:52,819 --> 00:43:55,059
really introduced myself. We know you knew of

1222
00:43:55,059 --> 00:43:56,099
each other, and I was like, hey,

1223
00:43:56,832 --> 00:43:58,738
what's going on next year with you guys

1224
00:43:58,738 --> 00:44:00,962
because I knew Come on all was a

1225
00:44:00,962 --> 00:44:03,186
band that really has racing at heart and

1226
00:44:03,186 --> 00:44:05,807
probably a good boat to be onto. Yes.

1227
00:44:07,488 --> 00:44:09,574
And, yeah, that ended up

1228
00:44:10,264 --> 00:44:11,930
leading into your a meeting that I thought

1229
00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:13,516
was gonna be, like, oh, yeah. We can

1230
00:44:13,516 --> 00:44:14,071
give you bikes.

1231
00:44:15,832 --> 00:44:17,419
But ended up being more than that.

1232
00:44:18,213 --> 00:44:19,268
There was some

1233
00:44:19,641 --> 00:44:21,942
interest in pushing the trail bikes in North

1234
00:44:22,101 --> 00:44:24,507
America, especially with a female. I don't think

1235
00:44:24,507 --> 00:44:26,505
they had, like, a woman athlete in North

1236
00:44:26,585 --> 00:44:27,464
America on the matters.

1237
00:44:28,183 --> 00:44:28,683
So

1238
00:44:30,181 --> 00:44:31,059
yeah, Kind of, like,

1239
00:44:31,791 --> 00:44:33,064
worked. And

1240
00:44:33,462 --> 00:44:34,337
yeah. Just like,

1241
00:44:35,132 --> 00:44:36,984
lots a very, like, short

1242
00:44:37,518 --> 00:44:38,018
because

1243
00:44:38,328 --> 00:44:40,786
lots happened. Like, I talked to everybody. I

1244
00:44:40,786 --> 00:44:43,324
was, like, putting out, like, hell mary are

1245
00:44:43,324 --> 00:44:45,783
there? Like just like, Yeah. Like this my

1246
00:44:45,783 --> 00:44:47,703
last like, you know, like, let's do it

1247
00:44:47,703 --> 00:44:50,481
or whatever and in the industry, like, I

1248
00:44:50,481 --> 00:44:52,625
received a lot of support even though there

1249
00:44:52,625 --> 00:44:55,166
wasn't, like, amazing offer on my table because

1250
00:44:55,166 --> 00:44:57,093
it's just wasn't this season for that. And

1251
00:44:57,093 --> 00:44:58,847
to be honest, I'm very objective with what

1252
00:44:58,927 --> 00:45:00,681
I delivered as well. Like I was twelfth

1253
00:45:00,681 --> 00:45:01,239
overall. Okay.

1254
00:45:02,673 --> 00:45:03,311
I hadn't, like,

1255
00:45:04,045 --> 00:45:05,484
were locked up on a podium in a

1256
00:45:05,484 --> 00:45:07,164
long time. Yeah. I almost 1 whistler in

1257
00:45:07,164 --> 00:45:09,565
20 22. That's awesome. But, like, on a

1258
00:45:09,565 --> 00:45:10,844
sheet of paper that is not a win,

1259
00:45:11,005 --> 00:45:12,784
you know? Yeah Not the easiest like

1260
00:45:13,085 --> 00:45:14,772
negotiation because I guess, in a time when

1261
00:45:14,772 --> 00:45:17,236
things are tight. Yeah. Yeah. So I I

1262
00:45:17,236 --> 00:45:19,302
really believe that in a sense like, I

1263
00:45:19,382 --> 00:45:20,994
I was kind of reaping

1264
00:45:21,463 --> 00:45:23,213
what I sow out there in the industry,

1265
00:45:23,373 --> 00:45:24,327
like, Of just, like,

1266
00:45:25,203 --> 00:45:26,714
the way I conducted myself,

1267
00:45:27,271 --> 00:45:28,408
how I

1268
00:45:29,195 --> 00:45:31,815
raised why I raised the brand that I

1269
00:45:31,815 --> 00:45:34,991
built. So I'm super thankful that I ended

1270
00:45:34,991 --> 00:45:37,467
up finding something and that people help me

1271
00:45:37,467 --> 00:45:39,691
finding something whether it be Damien from Yeti.

1272
00:45:39,850 --> 00:45:42,152
Like, we bounced ideas quite a bit. He

1273
00:45:42,152 --> 00:45:44,535
helped me. And just like, lots of people

1274
00:45:44,535 --> 00:45:45,908
out there willing to

1275
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:48,000
to help me. So,

1276
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:50,940
yeah, And to comments all Canada meeting ended

1277
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:53,339
it up being good, and then Elliot Jameson,

1278
00:45:54,072 --> 00:45:56,242
was also talking to them. Okay

1279
00:45:56,615 --> 00:45:59,874
he's 22 year old racer, and feel like

1280
00:45:59,874 --> 00:46:01,702
he's been around forever because he did X

1281
00:46:01,702 --> 00:46:02,338
and downhill.

1282
00:46:02,909 --> 00:46:04,425
He was on the Nor program for a

1283
00:46:04,425 --> 00:46:07,057
few years. Yes. And he was talking with

1284
00:46:07,137 --> 00:46:09,951
Common all Canada as well. And then once

1285
00:46:10,184 --> 00:46:12,888
are... Both our names became associated with Weight

1286
00:46:12,888 --> 00:46:14,877
and H, who's the junior that was already

1287
00:46:14,877 --> 00:46:15,592
on that program.

1288
00:46:17,359 --> 00:46:19,774
There's a bit of traction in our area

1289
00:46:19,832 --> 00:46:21,109
with 7 mesh and,

1290
00:46:22,785 --> 00:46:25,989
even, like, partnerships, like, we have an architecture

1291
00:46:25,989 --> 00:46:28,375
firm that sponsors strength. I've never seen anything

1292
00:46:28,375 --> 00:46:29,648
like that in Mountain biking in his school.

1293
00:46:29,886 --> 00:46:31,557
It's ever something different coming in. Yeah. And

1294
00:46:31,557 --> 00:46:33,084
in a it was funny when we had

1295
00:46:33,084 --> 00:46:34,596
the pink bike release, like people were like,

1296
00:46:34,675 --> 00:46:36,369
oh, what is that? We were this sponsor

1297
00:46:36,666 --> 00:46:39,235
Something. Yeah. It's called stark architecture, and

1298
00:46:40,740 --> 00:46:43,206
In a sense, sports Is by outside of

1299
00:46:43,206 --> 00:46:44,956
sports money. Like, you look at other sports.

1300
00:46:45,274 --> 00:46:48,392
Yeah. Like, this was that Mercedes benz world

1301
00:46:48,392 --> 00:46:50,302
cup for so many years, you know? And

1302
00:46:50,302 --> 00:46:51,814
all... So I think it's a bit of

1303
00:46:51,814 --> 00:46:53,405
a funny thing It's just because Mountain biking

1304
00:46:53,405 --> 00:46:56,032
is so core that we don't expect, like,

1305
00:46:57,162 --> 00:46:58,995
outside money to be like, portrait portrayed or...

1306
00:46:59,314 --> 00:47:00,987
And, I mean, it's a very small scale,

1307
00:47:01,147 --> 00:47:03,856
Like, we're a super small team, but,

1308
00:47:04,588 --> 00:47:07,132
Yeah. They're... Just everybody rides at that office.

1309
00:47:07,529 --> 00:47:09,039
My 1 of my good friend works for

1310
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:11,663
them. And the guy who owns the company

1311
00:47:11,663 --> 00:47:14,064
is actually Ban ar nuts brother and Ben

1312
00:47:14,064 --> 00:47:16,450
ar. Yeah. It worked on the industry and

1313
00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:19,210
how's the... Mechanic and yeah. Yeah. Worked with

1314
00:47:19,409 --> 00:47:20,530
Jack too. So

1315
00:47:21,409 --> 00:47:22,710
yeah. No. It's

1316
00:47:23,089 --> 00:47:24,769
it's interesting how that worked out, and that

1317
00:47:24,769 --> 00:47:27,329
thanks to Derek su C, who's

1318
00:47:28,944 --> 00:47:32,613
the comp marketing at comments all Canada. So

1319
00:47:32,613 --> 00:47:33,331
without him, like,

1320
00:47:34,208 --> 00:47:35,883
this wouldn't have, like, come together as much.

1321
00:47:36,122 --> 00:47:38,297
And then, yeah. I ended up bringing

1322
00:47:38,849 --> 00:47:41,570
some relationships for myself. Like, technically, we only

1323
00:47:41,570 --> 00:47:43,590
sign a frame deal this year. K. So

1324
00:47:43,889 --> 00:47:45,889
my hopes and goals would be to to

1325
00:47:45,889 --> 00:47:47,190
make this more of a

1326
00:47:47,742 --> 00:47:49,254
looping back to what I said, like, having

1327
00:47:49,254 --> 00:47:51,561
a North American team that young North Americans

1328
00:47:51,561 --> 00:47:54,665
can aspire to be taking care to go

1329
00:47:54,665 --> 00:47:56,438
to the world cup, especially that

1330
00:47:56,907 --> 00:47:58,575
they're a bit more in Europe now. So,

1331
00:47:58,654 --> 00:48:00,878
like, doing it without the support is is

1332
00:48:00,878 --> 00:48:03,577
really tough. And but so I think we

1333
00:48:03,577 --> 00:48:05,904
laid down an awesome foundation to

1334
00:48:06,214 --> 00:48:08,054
to do that? And, yeah, How do you

1335
00:48:08,054 --> 00:48:11,255
find the the new... The real Or how

1336
00:48:11,255 --> 00:48:13,114
do you reconnect yourself is

1337
00:48:13,588 --> 00:48:16,610
just like, exposing myself to challenges, And I

1338
00:48:16,610 --> 00:48:18,360
realized that in 22 23.

1339
00:48:18,758 --> 00:48:21,485
And since 20 21, maybe I was shielding

1340
00:48:21,621 --> 00:48:23,574
myself more from challenges

1341
00:48:24,112 --> 00:48:25,951
protecting what I have because I thought that

1342
00:48:25,951 --> 00:48:27,709
was enough to perform and I thought that

1343
00:48:27,709 --> 00:48:29,467
was what I needed to perform. But what

1344
00:48:29,547 --> 00:48:30,985
I needed to do is, like, blow the

1345
00:48:30,985 --> 00:48:33,478
door open and just have so many challenges

1346
00:48:33,478 --> 00:48:35,636
come my way that I reconnect with how

1347
00:48:35,795 --> 00:48:38,593
I actually faced those challenges. Nice. And, yeah.

1348
00:48:38,833 --> 00:48:41,550
I've staying connected to young riders. I think

1349
00:48:41,550 --> 00:48:44,593
is just essential, Like they... The energy or...

1350
00:48:44,991 --> 00:48:47,005
The energy, how they see

1351
00:48:47,779 --> 00:48:51,619
challenges, how they approach training, like, to be

1352
00:48:51,619 --> 00:48:52,017
honest,

1353
00:48:52,894 --> 00:48:54,889
I had no idea what the team chemistry

1354
00:48:54,889 --> 00:48:57,122
is gonna land. Like, I'm teammates with a

1355
00:48:57,122 --> 00:48:59,275
19 year old... He just turned 20. Waiting.

1356
00:48:59,515 --> 00:49:02,644
Yeah. And, 22 year old who's gonna turn

1357
00:49:02,644 --> 00:49:03,865
23, and

1358
00:49:04,325 --> 00:49:06,724
I'm 31. I just turned 31, 2 days

1359
00:49:06,724 --> 00:49:08,244
ago. So I was like, you know,

1360
00:49:08,898 --> 00:49:10,731
I have no idea. They might think I'm

1361
00:49:10,731 --> 00:49:13,997
weird and old and whatever, but we ended

1362
00:49:13,997 --> 00:49:17,285
up landing an insane team chemistry. And

1363
00:49:18,313 --> 00:49:20,148
I believe in a san, Francisco is the

1364
00:49:20,148 --> 00:49:21,662
3 of us, and then we have the

1365
00:49:21,742 --> 00:49:22,938
Commons soul race support,

1366
00:49:24,054 --> 00:49:26,367
ran by Par and everybody here at Comm,

1367
00:49:26,526 --> 00:49:27,026
and

1368
00:49:27,418 --> 00:49:28,372
without that, honestly.

1369
00:49:28,849 --> 00:49:31,554
That's also what made me go to common

1370
00:49:31,554 --> 00:49:33,303
all because I know to have that kind

1371
00:49:33,303 --> 00:49:36,024
of support for races at races and that's,

1372
00:49:36,104 --> 00:49:37,782
like such a cool thing that a brand

1373
00:49:37,782 --> 00:49:41,139
can do to actually foster that gap between

1374
00:49:41,139 --> 00:49:42,438
like development and

1375
00:49:42,817 --> 00:49:43,317
proteins.

1376
00:49:43,696 --> 00:49:44,196
So

1377
00:49:45,069 --> 00:49:47,321
Yeah. No. We ended up chatting about

1378
00:49:47,698 --> 00:49:51,464
everything, like, insane night team chemistry. I

1379
00:49:52,255 --> 00:49:54,672
they taught me again how to

1380
00:49:55,051 --> 00:49:56,730
arrive a bit late at the airport a

1381
00:49:56,730 --> 00:49:59,286
beach chill and that everything's literally gonna work

1382
00:49:59,286 --> 00:50:00,905
out, you know? So

1383
00:50:01,299 --> 00:50:03,449
Yeah. I know. It's been really cool. That's

1384
00:50:03,449 --> 00:50:05,201
amazing. And do... I guess in a way

1385
00:50:05,201 --> 00:50:07,134
you've sort of created a little bit of

1386
00:50:07,590 --> 00:50:09,501
whether you call it adversity or challenge for

1387
00:50:09,501 --> 00:50:12,142
yourself, brand new program, new structure. That's true.

1388
00:50:12,301 --> 00:50:14,211
I think you kinda stepped up to manager.

1389
00:50:14,529 --> 00:50:17,234
Answer. Maybe that's you've been so. Yeah. And

1390
00:50:17,234 --> 00:50:18,666
like you're learning a new bike, you're learning

1391
00:50:18,666 --> 00:50:20,696
a new product, like, all this stuff is

1392
00:50:21,313 --> 00:50:23,707
challenged, keeping things fresh and Yeah. Getting everything

1393
00:50:23,707 --> 00:50:24,106
example.

1394
00:50:24,584 --> 00:50:26,672
Everybody's is different. You know, I think to

1395
00:50:26,672 --> 00:50:28,894
be on a protein team or everything's, like,

1396
00:50:29,132 --> 00:50:30,163
given to you,

1397
00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,337
it really requires a specific mindset and a

1398
00:50:33,337 --> 00:50:35,257
specific athlete to be able to thrive in

1399
00:50:35,257 --> 00:50:37,964
that environment. It it does come with more

1400
00:50:37,964 --> 00:50:41,467
stress. Like, versus now, my plate is full

1401
00:50:41,467 --> 00:50:43,312
and I have all these challenges, but kind

1402
00:50:43,312 --> 00:50:45,452
of on me. Yeah. Like, nobody is out

1403
00:50:45,452 --> 00:50:47,989
there, like, putting their day to day on

1404
00:50:47,989 --> 00:50:49,337
the line for my performance.

1405
00:50:49,892 --> 00:50:50,392
And

1406
00:50:51,257 --> 00:50:53,802
in the sense like, every athletes is different

1407
00:50:53,802 --> 00:50:54,541
and maybe

1408
00:50:54,995 --> 00:50:57,620
that's how I perform better, and it's like

1409
00:50:57,620 --> 00:51:00,099
that balance of, like, how much can you

1410
00:51:00,099 --> 00:51:02,882
actually have on your plate and, like, but

1411
00:51:02,882 --> 00:51:04,177
definitely, I think

1412
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:07,110
by shielding my sell from challenges and only

1413
00:51:07,110 --> 00:51:09,336
focusing on my results and only having that

1414
00:51:09,336 --> 00:51:10,870
as the focus of my

1415
00:51:11,483 --> 00:51:13,153
day to day life. That was a bit

1416
00:51:13,153 --> 00:51:14,982
of a... Not a mistake, but like,

1417
00:51:15,633 --> 00:51:17,064
not the right path for me. For you.

1418
00:51:17,223 --> 00:51:19,211
Yeah. Yeah. But you say for some, maybe

1419
00:51:19,211 --> 00:51:21,596
it's perfect. Yeah. I do believe everybody has

1420
00:51:21,596 --> 00:51:23,107
to find balance. Though whether it'd be like,

1421
00:51:23,679 --> 00:51:26,556
a course, a class or, like something else,

1422
00:51:26,796 --> 00:51:27,935
like, because

1423
00:51:28,714 --> 00:51:30,312
it's easy to just get lost. And then

1424
00:51:30,312 --> 00:51:32,470
if your focus is only the outcome and

1425
00:51:32,470 --> 00:51:34,554
out come does it come. Like, that's just

1426
00:51:34,554 --> 00:51:37,019
hard what left with. Yeah. Nothing. Right? Yeah.

1427
00:51:37,338 --> 00:51:38,849
But even... Yeah, I guess, even now, if

1428
00:51:38,849 --> 00:51:39,349
your

1429
00:51:39,803 --> 00:51:40,678
result doesn't come,

1430
00:51:41,489 --> 00:51:43,248
there's loads of other, like, you're more than

1431
00:51:43,248 --> 00:51:45,645
that result. Yeah. You're the team manager. You're

1432
00:51:45,645 --> 00:51:47,882
looking after these guys. Honestly, they're pretty good.

1433
00:51:48,043 --> 00:51:50,120
Like, I I wouldn't say I manage. Me,

1434
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:52,702
like, No. I wouldn't they would be best.

1435
00:51:53,391 --> 00:51:56,880
Elliott actually unreal. Like, he has a spirit

1436
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,277
that's amazing, and I mean, his story is

1437
00:51:59,277 --> 00:52:01,670
also unreal in itself. Like, last year, he

1438
00:52:01,670 --> 00:52:02,170
was

1439
00:52:02,707 --> 00:52:05,441
eighteenth overall, private year, like, full

1440
00:52:05,818 --> 00:52:07,891
so the back of his van and impressive.

1441
00:52:09,260 --> 00:52:09,736
Just like,

1442
00:52:10,688 --> 00:52:12,593
literally wouldn't change it for the world. Yeah.

1443
00:52:12,831 --> 00:52:16,109
I loves it. Like, he he... And

1444
00:52:16,579 --> 00:52:18,736
to me what really connected me with these

1445
00:52:18,736 --> 00:52:20,654
guys. Is like, we ended up putting some

1446
00:52:20,654 --> 00:52:22,732
words to it. It was like, we're here

1447
00:52:22,732 --> 00:52:26,103
to feel fulfilled and race our best. Mh.

1448
00:52:26,422 --> 00:52:27,781
So it's kind of, like,

1449
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:30,978
to me, like, feeling fulfilled has to come

1450
00:52:30,978 --> 00:52:33,795
first before doing my best results. So

1451
00:52:34,108 --> 00:52:36,962
No. It's... Honestly, they're pretty impressive. They make

1452
00:52:36,962 --> 00:52:39,102
me a better a better version of myself.

1453
00:52:39,261 --> 00:52:41,401
So... That's amazing. You found good crew. Yeah.

1454
00:52:41,814 --> 00:52:43,728
Yeah. Sweet. So how's the season been going

1455
00:52:43,728 --> 00:52:45,163
so far because it's been... We were talking

1456
00:52:45,163 --> 00:52:46,779
a little bit before we hit record that

1457
00:52:46,838 --> 00:52:48,295
they're definitely challenging

1458
00:52:49,309 --> 00:52:52,038
Yeah. Circuits this year like, yeah on physical

1459
00:52:52,038 --> 00:52:53,796
challenges. Yeah. A bit of a change in

1460
00:52:53,796 --> 00:52:55,874
our our actual performance that we have to

1461
00:52:55,874 --> 00:52:56,273
put out.

1462
00:52:57,552 --> 00:52:59,890
There's a bit more focus into bringing

1463
00:53:00,843 --> 00:53:02,838
physicality back, which I think is great. Like,

1464
00:53:02,998 --> 00:53:03,797
I believe in daryl,

1465
00:53:04,435 --> 00:53:06,351
like, the fact that you have to do

1466
00:53:06,351 --> 00:53:08,347
the transfer has to be a variable in

1467
00:53:08,347 --> 00:53:09,065
your performance.

1468
00:53:10,753 --> 00:53:12,824
I think we're fine tuning, like, how much

1469
00:53:12,824 --> 00:53:14,575
of that has to be in a world

1470
00:53:14,575 --> 00:53:16,964
cup. Yeah. And I mean, sometimes, I think

1471
00:53:16,964 --> 00:53:19,128
we kinda forget, how young the sport of

1472
00:53:19,605 --> 00:53:22,867
Is, and how much, like, change it's going

1473
00:53:22,867 --> 00:53:23,844
through, and

1474
00:53:24,299 --> 00:53:24,879
I think

1475
00:53:25,509 --> 00:53:27,344
that's just part of the evolution of a

1476
00:53:27,344 --> 00:53:30,056
sport to to make it something that kids

1477
00:53:30,056 --> 00:53:31,971
can grow up and look forward to doing

1478
00:53:31,971 --> 00:53:32,370
like, Yes.

1479
00:53:33,583 --> 00:53:35,181
It was really funny. Actually waiting and have

1480
00:53:35,181 --> 00:53:37,578
a a memory on his phone. The other

1481
00:53:37,578 --> 00:53:39,815
day, like, a photo album memory and it

1482
00:53:39,815 --> 00:53:42,622
was Crank works 20 18, I think, and

1483
00:53:42,622 --> 00:53:44,616
he's about this stall. And, like, it looks

1484
00:53:44,616 --> 00:53:47,727
like absolute little g, and he's just walking

1485
00:53:47,727 --> 00:53:50,614
around Crank works taking photos with, like, Cecil

1486
00:53:50,694 --> 00:53:51,652
Ra, nico,

1487
00:53:52,372 --> 00:53:55,328
Greg Call and just like, all these people

1488
00:53:55,328 --> 00:53:56,047
and like,

1489
00:53:57,006 --> 00:53:58,365
I just looked at him my he's, like,

1490
00:53:58,445 --> 00:54:01,254
this 20 year old, d 21 currently second

1491
00:54:01,254 --> 00:54:03,888
in the overalls. And then just like, you

1492
00:54:03,888 --> 00:54:06,522
like grew up wanting to do this. Yeah.

1493
00:54:07,653 --> 00:54:09,425
And that's the first

1494
00:54:09,798 --> 00:54:12,500
generation of junior that have that Pretty much.

1495
00:54:12,738 --> 00:54:12,818
Sure.

1496
00:54:14,327 --> 00:54:16,885
So, yeah. It was just, like, really cool

1497
00:54:16,885 --> 00:54:19,290
to realize that that that's the sport. And

1498
00:54:19,743 --> 00:54:21,807
I do believe that integrating it in the

1499
00:54:22,125 --> 00:54:24,999
Uci is like the right path forward for

1500
00:54:24,999 --> 00:54:27,700
it to become recognized worldwide for it to

1501
00:54:27,700 --> 00:54:29,766
have federation for it to have a path

1502
00:54:29,766 --> 00:54:32,307
for riders to want to make it to

1503
00:54:32,307 --> 00:54:34,739
their. Because before it was just like this

1504
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,019
professional circuit and

1505
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,400
I personally grew up doing X etsy because

1506
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,179
I would have bur or

1507
00:54:40,639 --> 00:54:40,960
federation,

1508
00:54:42,014 --> 00:54:44,114
kept me in school. And so

1509
00:54:44,734 --> 00:54:46,894
I think it's just like, we have to

1510
00:54:46,894 --> 00:54:49,214
look like really big picture. It's very easy

1511
00:54:49,214 --> 00:54:51,628
to be focused on, like, your lands on

1512
00:54:51,628 --> 00:54:54,342
the current, like, because those... Because you're, like,

1513
00:54:54,501 --> 00:54:56,338
working so hard to make this transfer what

1514
00:54:56,338 --> 00:54:58,414
2 minutes left like, but I really think

1515
00:54:58,414 --> 00:55:00,170
we have to scope out and be like,

1516
00:55:00,744 --> 00:55:02,580
looking at what is the sport going to

1517
00:55:02,580 --> 00:55:04,896
be, what is the sports place because there

1518
00:55:04,896 --> 00:55:07,211
are kids that are growing up wanting to

1519
00:55:07,211 --> 00:55:09,387
do this. Yeah. That's super cool. So

1520
00:55:10,498 --> 00:55:12,727
Yeah. So you feel positive about the the

1521
00:55:12,727 --> 00:55:14,160
future of endure then you feel like we're

1522
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,070
heading in a positive direction.

1523
00:55:17,025 --> 00:55:19,511
I believe that any change is a bit

1524
00:55:19,511 --> 00:55:22,065
hard, and we need to give it some

1525
00:55:22,065 --> 00:55:24,060
time to bounce back, and it's just a

1526
00:55:24,060 --> 00:55:27,607
weird storm too, like, with the Covid down

1527
00:55:27,665 --> 00:55:30,237
downside and the industry and

1528
00:55:30,773 --> 00:55:31,331
just, like,

1529
00:55:32,207 --> 00:55:34,534
big structures like the Uci is just It's

1530
00:55:34,534 --> 00:55:37,170
a big governing body, like, it takes times

1531
00:55:37,170 --> 00:55:38,609
for things to move. Like, if you look

1532
00:55:38,609 --> 00:55:40,526
at the history of downhill and Cross country,

1533
00:55:40,686 --> 00:55:42,853
like, down and cross History Have been around

1534
00:55:42,853 --> 00:55:43,751
for a long

1535
00:55:44,125 --> 00:55:46,272
time. Yeah. Compared to For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

1536
00:55:46,431 --> 00:55:48,044
Yeah. So I think

1537
00:55:48,657 --> 00:55:50,247
just a little bit of patience, a little

1538
00:55:50,247 --> 00:55:51,122
bit of relief, like,

1539
00:55:51,774 --> 00:55:53,767
there's so many writers that wanna give their

1540
00:55:53,767 --> 00:55:55,601
best and be out there and do this.

1541
00:55:55,921 --> 00:55:56,421
So,

1542
00:55:57,117 --> 00:55:58,871
yeah. Just keep at it. I think Cool.

1543
00:55:59,031 --> 00:56:01,000
And your first world champs this year for

1544
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:02,887
Yeah. Isn't that jewel. Yes.

1545
00:56:03,259 --> 00:56:05,637
In Canada too, I love that venue actually.

1546
00:56:05,796 --> 00:56:07,461
So I was like, always thought it would

1547
00:56:07,461 --> 00:56:10,018
be finale. U. But Fred to be Canada

1548
00:56:10,018 --> 00:56:11,927
is pretty cool, I think. Yeah. Yeah. Ferrari

1549
00:56:11,927 --> 00:56:13,519
kinda feels a bit like the home of

1550
00:56:13,519 --> 00:56:14,871
endure in a. Doesn't it so I can't

1551
00:56:14,871 --> 00:56:16,622
really For sure finger on that, but, yeah.

1552
00:56:16,861 --> 00:56:19,262
Can say also, let's cool. No. Ken has,

1553
00:56:19,341 --> 00:56:20,556
like, epic stages,

1554
00:56:21,090 --> 00:56:24,190
like big ones, super tech. Personally really vibrant

1555
00:56:24,190 --> 00:56:25,938
but they're riding there so I'm not mad

1556
00:56:25,938 --> 00:56:26,733
about it being there.

1557
00:56:27,463 --> 00:56:29,532
So, yeah. How have you felt the season's

1558
00:56:29,532 --> 00:56:31,043
been going then that was... Yeah. That was

1559
00:56:31,043 --> 00:56:33,986
your question earlier. Yeah. Kinda sidetracked, but good.

1560
00:56:34,558 --> 00:56:37,344
Are you avoiding it? No It's going It's

1561
00:56:37,344 --> 00:56:40,528
actually going pretty well. Sweet. Yeah. I'm sitting

1562
00:56:40,528 --> 00:56:41,563
6 overall? Yeah.

1563
00:56:42,534 --> 00:56:44,209
I'm not gonna at quick mats, but I

1564
00:56:44,209 --> 00:56:46,124
was 12 last year's. Twice as good as

1565
00:56:46,124 --> 00:56:47,481
much. Pretty good. Yeah.

1566
00:56:48,997 --> 00:56:49,736
I haven't

1567
00:56:50,366 --> 00:56:52,772
sat this high in their overall since

1568
00:56:54,654 --> 00:56:56,822
I don't wanna jinx myself, but, like, probably

1569
00:56:56,878 --> 00:56:57,592
20 19.

1570
00:56:58,563 --> 00:56:59,063
So

1571
00:56:59,599 --> 00:57:01,514
no. And most of all, like,

1572
00:57:02,311 --> 00:57:04,226
I led into this season with, like,

1573
00:57:04,943 --> 00:57:06,539
well, if like shit really hits the fan.

1574
00:57:06,778 --> 00:57:09,101
I'll just manage just this program. You know,

1575
00:57:09,339 --> 00:57:12,039
and step away or, like, because all I

1576
00:57:12,039 --> 00:57:14,421
really wanted was to ride and feel proud.

1577
00:57:14,659 --> 00:57:15,556
Yeah. And

1578
00:57:16,899 --> 00:57:18,886
I'm still I connected to that, and I

1579
00:57:18,886 --> 00:57:21,032
really... I'm just trying not to let the

1580
00:57:21,032 --> 00:57:23,099
outcome come in the way because it's was

1581
00:57:23,099 --> 00:57:25,108
what I did last year in a few

1582
00:57:25,108 --> 00:57:26,407
years before. So

1583
00:57:27,825 --> 00:57:30,142
yeah. And mean, honestly, I had way really

1584
00:57:30,142 --> 00:57:32,711
helped keep me grounded on that and Also

1585
00:57:32,711 --> 00:57:34,540
break patterns. Like, I'll do dumb stuff. Like,

1586
00:57:34,699 --> 00:57:36,052
you look over on Instagram and be like,

1587
00:57:36,131 --> 00:57:37,802
oh, fuck. Like I didn't did this jump,

1588
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,869
like, the other girls are or whatever. And

1589
00:57:39,869 --> 00:57:41,880
then they'd be like, What are you doing?

1590
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:43,800
Don't ever do that?

1591
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:46,679
And it's just okay. Like, pattern that was

1592
00:57:46,679 --> 00:57:48,519
in my life for years like broken shattered.

1593
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:49,739
Like, don't even

1594
00:57:50,053 --> 00:57:52,363
So spend all this money on, like, counselors

1595
00:57:52,363 --> 00:57:52,863
and

1596
00:57:53,239 --> 00:57:54,514
psychologist and stuff. All you need a couple

1597
00:57:54,514 --> 00:57:56,266
of kids with you. Couple jobs. Yeah.

1598
00:57:57,461 --> 00:57:58,257
No. So

1599
00:57:59,308 --> 00:58:00,824
Yes. Seasons going really well.

1600
00:58:01,781 --> 00:58:04,413
Kinda just started in group b in Finale,

1601
00:58:04,572 --> 00:58:04,812
which,

1602
00:58:05,530 --> 00:58:08,161
hey, tough tough blow, but I was, like,

1603
00:58:09,134 --> 00:58:11,952
only 1 race, like move forward. Yeah. And

1604
00:58:12,810 --> 00:58:16,086
it was interesting, funny sidebar, but, like, in

1605
00:58:16,086 --> 00:58:18,260
finale group b, we got to raise stage

1606
00:58:18,260 --> 00:58:20,019
4, and then there is an accident.

1607
00:58:20,659 --> 00:58:22,819
That canceled stage 4 for group a women.

1608
00:58:23,059 --> 00:58:23,880
Yeah. So

1609
00:58:24,260 --> 00:58:25,954
we had a bit of a tougher race.

1610
00:58:26,193 --> 00:58:27,628
I would say it's fair to say it

1611
00:58:27,628 --> 00:58:29,781
because we had to rush to stage 4,

1612
00:58:30,021 --> 00:58:32,572
race, stage 4 rush to stage 5 versus

1613
00:58:32,572 --> 00:58:34,566
they kinda in group a got a break

1614
00:58:34,566 --> 00:58:37,054
pressure. A bit. Yeah. Hey, whatever. I don't

1615
00:58:37,214 --> 00:58:39,528
I don't really mind. But, then I was

1616
00:58:39,528 --> 00:58:41,523
like, I really need to be in group

1617
00:58:41,523 --> 00:58:43,691
a in Poland and like, I was like,

1618
00:58:43,850 --> 00:58:45,440
am I in group a? Like, my number,

1619
00:58:45,838 --> 00:58:46,235
whatever.

1620
00:58:46,712 --> 00:58:49,097
And then I was. And then we just

1621
00:58:49,097 --> 00:58:50,289
get wet like,

1622
00:58:51,578 --> 00:58:54,210
so hard for stage 2. So I was

1623
00:58:54,210 --> 00:58:57,799
like, oh, yeah. Cool. Awesome. I let group

1624
00:58:57,799 --> 00:58:58,198
bed.

1625
00:58:59,713 --> 00:59:00,213
So

1626
00:59:01,244 --> 00:59:02,996
That was a bit tough because in Poland,

1627
00:59:03,315 --> 00:59:04,670
I thought it was really cool because it

1628
00:59:04,670 --> 00:59:07,378
was a completely fresh venue and not a

1629
00:59:07,458 --> 00:59:07,936
French 1.

1630
00:59:08,589 --> 00:59:10,666
So I feel like, honestly, I feel like

1631
00:59:10,666 --> 00:59:12,504
it even out the playing field. And I

1632
00:59:12,504 --> 00:59:14,203
think you can see it across categories.

1633
00:59:14,901 --> 00:59:15,380
And

1634
00:59:16,674 --> 00:59:19,232
Yeah. I was riding pretty good, feeling good,

1635
00:59:19,631 --> 00:59:22,188
attacking, like, just all the feelings I've been

1636
00:59:22,188 --> 00:59:24,586
wanting to feel. So that was, like, super

1637
00:59:24,586 --> 00:59:27,236
nice. Because finale was is usually a pretty

1638
00:59:27,236 --> 00:59:30,506
physical race. And I manage ninth at Finale.

1639
00:59:30,746 --> 00:59:32,261
So honestly, that was, like,

1640
00:59:33,059 --> 00:59:34,893
okay. Like, I didn't get my ass to

1641
00:59:34,893 --> 00:59:36,065
me. And then

1642
00:59:38,166 --> 00:59:39,991
Poland, I just did, like,

1643
00:59:40,704 --> 00:59:43,029
I think I finished sixth. Mh. And

1644
00:59:44,369 --> 00:59:45,561
Yeah. Based on, like,

1645
00:59:47,548 --> 00:59:50,092
how I rode there and everything, I'm just

1646
00:59:50,092 --> 00:59:52,572
happy and to be honest, I think something

1647
00:59:52,572 --> 00:59:54,796
was protecting me from being in group b,

1648
00:59:55,590 --> 00:59:58,689
scoring my best result and then having that

1649
00:59:58,689 --> 00:59:59,189
be

1650
00:59:59,498 --> 01:00:02,360
like Yeah. The weather affected. Yeah. I think

1651
01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:02,837
mentally,

1652
01:00:03,393 --> 01:00:05,858
I'd I really don't know how I would

1653
01:00:05,858 --> 01:00:07,686
have bounced out of that because then it

1654
01:00:07,686 --> 01:00:09,606
would have been you know, like, do... Am

1655
01:00:09,606 --> 01:00:11,587
I enough? Like, is my riding enough? As

1656
01:00:11,587 --> 01:00:13,806
questions questions that would have come back? Yeah.

1657
01:00:14,123 --> 01:00:14,623
So

1658
01:00:16,359 --> 01:00:18,913
Yeah. It's... I was, like, yeah. Plenty of

1659
01:00:18,913 --> 01:00:20,429
other chances to get at it, but, like,

1660
01:00:20,588 --> 01:00:22,424
the chances are going by ass. Like we

1661
01:00:22,424 --> 01:00:24,361
only have 2 races left. So

1662
01:00:25,313 --> 01:00:27,068
yeah. It was good. Leo Gang was, like,

1663
01:00:27,947 --> 01:00:29,942
just like, not my best. I let, like,

1664
01:00:30,261 --> 01:00:32,496
a bit of outcome focus creep in and

1665
01:00:32,496 --> 01:00:34,344
had to, like, medium stages.

1666
01:00:36,094 --> 01:00:38,719
But, yeah. No still, like, focused and riding.

1667
01:00:39,116 --> 01:00:39,775
And then

1668
01:00:40,404 --> 01:00:42,555
I tried to go home because honestly, as

1669
01:00:42,555 --> 01:00:44,228
a non euros, we'd...

1670
01:00:45,661 --> 01:00:47,357
Like, I've been gone since

1671
01:00:47,748 --> 01:00:48,703
April 20 third.

1672
01:00:49,340 --> 01:00:51,411
And, I mean, I know Kiwi and Aussie

1673
01:00:51,411 --> 01:00:53,162
like, have it way worse. So when I

1674
01:00:53,162 --> 01:00:54,675
complain about it, I feel like a a

1675
01:00:54,675 --> 01:00:55,152
bit, like,

1676
01:00:56,124 --> 01:00:57,961
you know, it's not that hard, but for

1677
01:00:57,961 --> 01:01:00,219
me like being home and recharging and

1678
01:01:00,677 --> 01:01:02,595
so I tried to go home after Leo

1679
01:01:02,595 --> 01:01:04,128
gang, And I think that was a bit

1680
01:01:04,128 --> 01:01:06,126
of a miss like, because it was only

1681
01:01:06,126 --> 01:01:08,284
10 days at home, then back then straight

1682
01:01:08,284 --> 01:01:11,001
to Calm blue. I just thought I'd it

1683
01:01:11,001 --> 01:01:13,331
would be really good and I don't regret

1684
01:01:13,331 --> 01:01:14,922
it because it did recharge me, and I

1685
01:01:14,922 --> 01:01:16,912
feel super ready for a alleged. The next

1686
01:01:16,912 --> 01:01:18,742
1. But maybe it was a bit much

1687
01:01:18,742 --> 01:01:20,254
on the body. So in Calm blue, I

1688
01:01:20,254 --> 01:01:21,369
kinda, like, had no gas.

1689
01:01:22,339 --> 01:01:24,015
So Honestly don't need to do a ninth

1690
01:01:24,015 --> 01:01:25,772
again with nothing in the tank. I feel

1691
01:01:25,772 --> 01:01:26,272
like

1692
01:01:27,049 --> 01:01:28,406
last year that probably would've have been, like,

1693
01:01:28,725 --> 01:01:31,694
outside of 12:50. Okay. So, yeah. Yeah. Cool.

1694
01:01:31,933 --> 01:01:33,289
So we're in a good place then. Yeah.

1695
01:01:33,608 --> 01:01:35,682
No. We're doing pretty good. Yeah. Yeah. Nice.

1696
01:01:35,842 --> 01:01:37,756
And I've heard you say the comments Deal

1697
01:01:37,756 --> 01:01:38,713
at the minute is up to the end

1698
01:01:38,713 --> 01:01:39,510
of 25.

1699
01:01:40,069 --> 01:01:41,446
And then you're gonna think about

1700
01:01:41,758 --> 01:01:44,463
retiring from from racing? Yeah. Like,

1701
01:01:45,179 --> 01:01:46,610
do do you still feel that way now

1702
01:01:46,610 --> 01:01:48,494
that we're, like, halfway through the season and

1703
01:01:48,694 --> 01:01:50,932
Yeah. There was an interesting switch to happen

1704
01:01:50,932 --> 01:01:52,051
in my mindset actually,

1705
01:01:53,090 --> 01:01:53,569
honestly,

1706
01:01:54,368 --> 01:01:56,366
initially, it was just 1 year, and I

1707
01:01:56,366 --> 01:01:56,766
was like, yeah.

1708
01:01:57,978 --> 01:01:59,966
I can do 1 year, You know? And

1709
01:01:59,966 --> 01:02:00,466
then

1710
01:02:01,795 --> 01:02:03,783
they're, like, oh, actually, like, set 7 mesh

1711
01:02:03,783 --> 01:02:05,532
really wants this to be a thing and,

1712
01:02:05,691 --> 01:02:07,655
like, they're gonna push for 2 years and

1713
01:02:07,774 --> 01:02:09,925
they're like, your contracts 2 years. And then

1714
01:02:10,005 --> 01:02:11,439
I had like, a little bit of a

1715
01:02:11,439 --> 01:02:14,068
mental right a little Tv, you know? Because

1716
01:02:14,227 --> 01:02:15,502
I was like, wait. What?

1717
01:02:16,059 --> 01:02:16,936
To be 2 years.

1718
01:02:19,829 --> 01:02:20,329
So

1719
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:23,110
that was interesting. That was, like, early early,

1720
01:02:23,269 --> 01:02:24,630
like, before Christmas probably.

1721
01:02:25,110 --> 01:02:25,610
And,

1722
01:02:27,362 --> 01:02:29,829
then I trained really hard with actually my

1723
01:02:29,829 --> 01:02:31,603
buddy, Mckay Va who

1724
01:02:31,978 --> 01:02:34,388
switched from racing this year and is now

1725
01:02:34,699 --> 01:02:36,521
doing giant factory off road,

1726
01:02:37,155 --> 01:02:39,928
coaching. Yeah and he's doing my personal coaching,

1727
01:02:40,086 --> 01:02:41,537
and I train

1728
01:02:42,005 --> 01:02:44,484
he kept me honest for sure. And I

1729
01:02:44,484 --> 01:02:46,984
knew as well that I would have to

1730
01:02:47,125 --> 01:02:48,964
train very hard to be back. To to

1731
01:02:48,964 --> 01:02:50,644
bridge that gap that I wanted to bridge

1732
01:02:50,644 --> 01:02:52,570
and to have those feelings that I wanted

1733
01:02:52,570 --> 01:02:54,076
to have. I knew how strong I needed

1734
01:02:54,076 --> 01:02:56,137
to be. So I worked pretty hard and

1735
01:02:56,137 --> 01:02:57,801
then halfway through the winter,

1736
01:02:59,963 --> 01:03:00,463
or

1737
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:01,340
after

1738
01:03:02,597 --> 01:03:04,752
a race, I raised Pa, like, a local

1739
01:03:04,752 --> 01:03:06,508
down race. And then I was kinda, like,

1740
01:03:06,748 --> 01:03:08,993
doing well, and I was, like, Man. If

1741
01:03:09,072 --> 01:03:10,683
I have 1 other winter

1742
01:03:11,136 --> 01:03:13,858
of going a hard and being dedicated?

1743
01:03:14,311 --> 01:03:15,580
Like, what can I do next year?

1744
01:03:16,315 --> 01:03:17,835
And it was the first time in a

1745
01:03:17,835 --> 01:03:19,275
long time that I had, like,

1746
01:03:19,994 --> 01:03:22,954
like, positively, like, pictured myself in the future.

1747
01:03:23,195 --> 01:03:23,355
Yeah.

1748
01:03:23,994 --> 01:03:24,715
Succeeding and, like,

1749
01:03:25,530 --> 01:03:27,849
So that was a huge mindset shift. That's

1750
01:03:27,849 --> 01:03:30,010
cool. Yeah. Nice that must sound good to

1751
01:03:30,010 --> 01:03:32,010
suddenly be like, to realize that you're having

1752
01:03:32,010 --> 01:03:34,501
those thoughts. Not to feel like like, 1

1753
01:03:34,501 --> 01:03:36,891
more year, you know? Yeah. Because it's it's

1754
01:03:36,891 --> 01:03:39,041
really cool life. And, like, we're so fortunate.

1755
01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:41,908
III live an absolutely privileged life to, like,

1756
01:03:41,988 --> 01:03:43,678
be able to raise and do that as

1757
01:03:43,678 --> 01:03:44,078
a living.

1758
01:03:44,956 --> 01:03:46,714
But it's hard. Yeah. Like, it's not easy.

1759
01:03:46,954 --> 01:03:49,271
Like, it means, like, training, being tired going

1760
01:03:49,271 --> 01:03:51,759
to bed, like, and with the level of

1761
01:03:51,759 --> 01:03:54,150
physicality and the girls training, like, everything is

1762
01:03:54,150 --> 01:03:56,860
raising. So it's a lot of efforts. Yeah.

1763
01:03:57,100 --> 01:03:58,375
And And sacrifice.

1764
01:03:58,789 --> 01:04:00,541
To me, it also matches, like, when we

1765
01:04:00,541 --> 01:04:02,134
were talking bit earlier when I said, maybe

1766
01:04:02,293 --> 01:04:04,205
I was burnt out last year. You know?

1767
01:04:04,444 --> 01:04:06,276
When I felt that, like, mindset shift, I

1768
01:04:06,276 --> 01:04:08,605
was like, it felt like a a release

1769
01:04:08,605 --> 01:04:09,984
and it's just like, so,

1770
01:04:11,404 --> 01:04:13,644
yeah, wrap up this year, do a real

1771
01:04:13,644 --> 01:04:14,924
hard training next year,

1772
01:04:15,565 --> 01:04:16,385
start to

1773
01:04:16,860 --> 01:04:19,180
place my transition Yeah. Pieces.

1774
01:04:20,619 --> 01:04:22,860
I believe I maybe need a break of,

1775
01:04:23,019 --> 01:04:23,340
like,

1776
01:04:24,472 --> 01:04:25,347
traveling. Yeah.

1777
01:04:27,017 --> 01:04:29,483
So I'm thinking I would love to go

1778
01:04:29,483 --> 01:04:30,199
back to school.

1779
01:04:31,074 --> 01:04:32,449
I would love to become

1780
01:04:33,079 --> 01:04:35,812
some kind of body therapist. So ph

1781
01:04:36,349 --> 01:04:39,061
Os. So I'm I'm really not closing any

1782
01:04:39,061 --> 01:04:40,656
door as to where I could study that

1783
01:04:40,656 --> 01:04:42,512
in the world. Yes. And

1784
01:04:43,144 --> 01:04:44,905
having gone to the huge change that I

1785
01:04:44,905 --> 01:04:47,385
just did makes me realize that the next

1786
01:04:47,385 --> 01:04:49,464
change is not gonna be easy. Like... No.

1787
01:04:49,704 --> 01:04:51,724
This fall was really hard. But

1788
01:04:52,518 --> 01:04:54,674
I'm gonna just embrace it and, like, go

1789
01:04:54,674 --> 01:04:56,371
full tilt. And then I know

1790
01:04:56,829 --> 01:04:59,464
viking will come back around. You know? It's

1791
01:04:59,464 --> 01:05:02,192
it's not gonna go too far. So That's

1792
01:05:02,192 --> 01:05:03,942
kind of my plan. Yeah. Do you see

1793
01:05:03,942 --> 01:05:06,726
the team, like, continuing, maybe not with you

1794
01:05:06,726 --> 01:05:09,047
traveling with them, but, like, having some Yeah.

1795
01:05:09,286 --> 01:05:11,113
I I would love for it to... And

1796
01:05:11,272 --> 01:05:12,805
I would love to remain

1797
01:05:13,179 --> 01:05:15,800
involved in some capacity. Yeah. Like, maybe not

1798
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,278
in physically being there for a year or

1799
01:05:18,278 --> 01:05:21,693
2, but I... It would be so cool

1800
01:05:21,693 --> 01:05:23,837
if it could continue because I I believe

1801
01:05:23,837 --> 01:05:26,798
in Canadians doing well at world cups and

1802
01:05:27,269 --> 01:05:29,506
I believe in the talent and the junior

1803
01:05:29,506 --> 01:05:31,344
women's that we have coming up as well.

1804
01:05:31,504 --> 01:05:33,502
Like, I helped Lily Bo get on the

1805
01:05:33,581 --> 01:05:35,200
Rocky team last year and

1806
01:05:36,155 --> 01:05:38,574
she's hard at work, hard at it. There's

1807
01:05:38,795 --> 01:05:41,914
even younger talent, like, there's writers and see

1808
01:05:41,914 --> 01:05:44,255
to sky popping up everywhere, and

1809
01:05:44,570 --> 01:05:47,610
Eli skin as well who's, like, I think

1810
01:05:47,610 --> 01:05:49,450
she's third or fourth in the overall right

1811
01:05:49,450 --> 01:05:51,070
now of junior. So

1812
01:05:51,864 --> 01:05:54,179
Yeah. I would love for these girls to

1813
01:05:54,179 --> 01:05:55,376
have a little bit of a home, you

1814
01:05:55,376 --> 01:05:56,972
know. So Nice. See yeah. It's cool to

1815
01:05:56,972 --> 01:05:59,046
see canadian talent coming through hey. Yeah. Yeah.

1816
01:05:59,286 --> 01:06:01,682
And also connecting with everybody from Europe from

1817
01:06:01,841 --> 01:06:04,696
Ka all and and seeing them, like, see

1818
01:06:04,696 --> 01:06:07,235
a value in developing these riders as well.

1819
01:06:07,393 --> 01:06:09,878
So if I can remain that bridge because

1820
01:06:09,878 --> 01:06:11,233
it does feel crazy to.

1821
01:06:12,907 --> 01:06:15,777
Like as races, we have this insane experience

1822
01:06:15,777 --> 01:06:17,701
in such a specific bubble, which is, like

1823
01:06:17,780 --> 01:06:19,370
Mountain Biking racing me at the world cup

1824
01:06:19,370 --> 01:06:19,688
level.

1825
01:06:20,245 --> 01:06:22,073
And to just, like, step away and and,

1826
01:06:22,232 --> 01:06:24,711
like, totally, like, cut all my ties. Would

1827
01:06:24,711 --> 01:06:27,250
feel a bit weird. Yeah. So I I

1828
01:06:27,250 --> 01:06:29,313
would love to to use my experience and

1829
01:06:29,313 --> 01:06:31,534
and stay some kind of bridge in some

1830
01:06:31,534 --> 01:06:32,351
sense, but

1831
01:06:33,938 --> 01:06:35,696
I'm careful with that because I feel like

1832
01:06:35,696 --> 01:06:38,333
20 23 and... Were years that I didn't

1833
01:06:38,333 --> 01:06:40,331
focus on myself at all. Yeah. Okay. So

1834
01:06:40,331 --> 01:06:41,690
look out for number 1. Yeah.

1835
01:06:42,344 --> 01:06:45,213
And then look out for also what else

1836
01:06:45,373 --> 01:06:47,126
I care about? You know? Good stuff. Yeah.

1837
01:06:47,445 --> 01:06:49,836
Nice. We should start wrapping up. Yeah. Normally,

1838
01:06:49,916 --> 01:06:51,609
we ask final 4 questions, and I think

1839
01:06:51,609 --> 01:06:52,650
we hit you with 3 of them last

1840
01:06:52,650 --> 01:06:54,409
time because the fourth 1 didn't exist. Okay.

1841
01:06:54,730 --> 01:06:55,849
So we'll come back to the fourth 1,

1842
01:06:56,329 --> 01:06:56,650
which is,

1843
01:06:57,623 --> 01:06:59,769
what is something that you do every day

1844
01:06:59,769 --> 01:07:01,041
that you feel benefit to you?

1845
01:07:03,744 --> 01:07:05,493
Go outside of,

1846
01:07:07,019 --> 01:07:09,660
like, waking up. Yeah. And opening a door

1847
01:07:09,660 --> 01:07:12,619
or window and having the sun or rain

1848
01:07:12,619 --> 01:07:13,660
or clouds or snow.

1849
01:07:14,952 --> 01:07:17,182
But, like whatever air from outside hit me.

1850
01:07:17,421 --> 01:07:19,253
Yeah. Every day always.

1851
01:07:21,499 --> 01:07:23,817
Now as much as possible. Yeah. Yeah.

1852
01:07:24,616 --> 01:07:26,773
Wicked. Well, it's been super fun catching up,

1853
01:07:27,013 --> 01:07:28,712
and it's great to see you in a

1854
01:07:28,931 --> 01:07:31,974
happy, healthy place I agree. The energy feels

1855
01:07:31,974 --> 01:07:34,282
easier for me and for the unsure. That's

1856
01:07:34,282 --> 01:07:35,634
good. And I look forward to seeing how,

1857
01:07:35,793 --> 01:07:38,199
like this season and then next season goes.

1858
01:07:38,438 --> 01:07:40,836
Yeah. And, yeah, best of luck with whatever

1859
01:07:40,836 --> 01:07:42,754
you do in the future, but definitely make

1860
01:07:42,754 --> 01:07:44,512
sure we catch up after next season. Yeah.

1861
01:07:44,672 --> 01:07:46,590
I for sure. Thank you so much. Thank

1862
01:07:46,590 --> 01:07:46,750
you.

1863
01:07:47,562 --> 01:07:47,800
Thanks.

1864
01:07:51,860 --> 01:07:53,532
Alright. That's it for this episode with A.

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