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Welcome to Cryptic chronicles. A show all about

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everything mysterious,

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unexplained and weird in the world.

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Today on the show, we're gonna go into

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the Us government's history,

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of researching and

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experimentation with Esp.

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Remote viewing. And psychic powers in general

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and has continued for decades all the way

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up to the present day.

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What are they hiding?

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What they put so much taxpayer money in

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2.

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And what is it about

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esoteric powers that has fascinated the Us government

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for so long.

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Well,

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You're gonna find out today Aren't you. So

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let's just hop right into it because it

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is time to get weird.

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I'm your host Tim Hacker and you're listening

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to Cryptic Chronicles.

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This is this is the way. This is

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the way.

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These these entities they would

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Most people have yet to learn that the

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federal government. Has a long history of investigating

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Esoteric phenomena.

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The ob

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nature of secret government quote, quote, black book

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projects has makes deep dives into the topic,

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challenging

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to say the least,

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at least for your everyday person going about

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their business.

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However,

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the truth stat the secretive groups within the

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government have had many secret programs,

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investigating mental to,

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Clair boy.

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Pre cognition, and remote viewing.

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As with basically everything coming from the government,

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surface level rhetoric should never be trusted. We're

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taken seriously.

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Because I mean, these these programs have been

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this discovered repeatedly over and over after they

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claimed

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they didn't exist.

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And when discovered, they've tried to say that

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these secret programs are for national dirty in

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defense,

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but

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things are rarely. If ever, what they seem

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at face value.

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What the ruling class says and what is

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rarely coincide.

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At least to those who are not naive.

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Not necessarily saying that you should be paranoid

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just that people who trust the government are

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just bad at history.

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And an ironically entertaining aspect of these secret

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government programs

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is that government pawns which humiliate anyone in

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the mainstream?

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Who was interested in Paris psychology.

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But in the background,

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they were knee deep in this stuff.

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How could it be that the highest branches

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of our government military became so interested in

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the paranormal?

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Well, that's a fascinating tale and I am

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here to tell you it.

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Over the years, a vast or of un

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uncomfortable taxpayer funds has vanished into these secret

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programs.

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These black budget projects,

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researching extra sensory perception.

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remote viewing, and many, many, many, many more

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mystical arts and stuff that

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you should never assume any

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government people to mess with.

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And the origin of all this is fascinating.

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It goes back to the not seas and

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and was a massive boom not only to

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our clan government's interest in weird stuff.

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This was the era of the spoon bender.

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Psychic soldiers

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and a keen paranoia,

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fueled by possibilities

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with the communist regime of Soviet Union also

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conducting their own, paranormal research,

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erupting into a full blown psychic arms race.

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Hal put off.

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Legendary paranormal investigator,

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physicist and former program director of the Stanford

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It's just 1 of many that have come

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forth as whistleblower over the years, concerning the

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secret research they conducted on remote viewing for

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the Department of the fence.

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the Cia.

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A lot of the information covered in this

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episode actually comes from hal put off.

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Despite all legitimate

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documentation of the shadowy government experiments on the

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paranormal.

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If you try and talk about it with

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an average everyday person,

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living in the matrix.

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They almost likely laugh at the idea.

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instantly mock and rally against the idea

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that these government experiments

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are very real

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and having been going on for decades.

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you should distinguish if you are talking to

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a skeptic.

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If somebody gives you... If you talk about

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this to somebody and they, like, give you

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pushback, you should distinguish if you are talking

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to a skeptic

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or a pseudo skeptic.

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this, a skeptic is good. Being a skeptic

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is good. It doesn't mean that you are

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close minded. It just means that you

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are discerning.

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Now, the way to tell between a pseudo

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skeptic and a skeptic is

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pseudo skepticism

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is based on brainwashing

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and close minded,

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licking kicking one's head in the sand as

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an analogy.

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It is ind nation, dogma,

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more of a belief structure similar to religion

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than actual opinions.

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And how you can spot a pseudo skeptic

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is you can show them objective evidence,

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backed up by irr

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sources,

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and it doesn't matter. A pseudo skeptic won't

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even look at the evidence or much less

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like,

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acknowledge it as legitimate.

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Real skeptics are actually pretty smart because you

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should be a skeptic about most things. A

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lot of people are out there to just

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empirical feed on you,

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and there's a sucker born every minute.

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factual evidence,

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they will be more into it and actually

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change their views.

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So it's good to be discerning and then

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you learn more and you can accept what's

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you know, is earned past a certain level

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of proof to you.

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though a a skeptic can change their views,

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a pseudo skeptic will not ever change their

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views

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unless the things that whatever programmed them

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tell them too.

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With us an abstract way to talk about

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it, but I just... I don't know how

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to summon it up quickly. I wanna move

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you can also just not talk about it

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or another, it's pretty much just essential to

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dismiss all comments and opinions of pseudo skeptics.

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Don't even engage, who cares. Just dismiss them

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like how they dismiss anything outside of their

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tiny little reality tunnel.

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Boom.

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So don't let anyone guess light you on

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this topic.

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There's actually

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there's actually like

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tons of legitimate evidence,

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suggesting the existence of mystical abilities like Esp,

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but they're never ending money that's been thrown

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Oh, for, just in case you don't know

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what I mean when I say For, it's

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a freedom of information act requests, so you

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agencies to give you information even if they

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don't want to. It's little... It's the law.

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At current, though, despite the evidence that I

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mentioned briefly. At current, it seems like it's

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beyond our current evolutionary

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comprehension.

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sky and say, the sky is not blue,

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it's purple, hidden and I weird stuff isn't

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real after seeing the evidence.

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That's my honest opinion. Something I really don't

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say very much on the show.

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as we progress as a race to the

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next level of attainment, who knows.

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probably part of our just natural evolutionary

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advancement and that's not my bias of being

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bigger if we aren't reduced into, like,

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minus us zombie species.

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believers in this type of phenomena have actually

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of wars at the past.

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who allegedly used his sixth sense to keep

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squad inmates out of traps and ambush in

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the Vietnam war.

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Joe Con was even later taken into some

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of these experiments the government was doing,

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specifically,

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into the intelligence agency experiments,

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on Esp.

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especially soldiers that actually see combat and have

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soldiers, I think. So it's really not anything

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the higher brass, like the desk

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people who don't actually face battle. These are

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the ones that are against all that kind

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of stuff. But the soldiers on the ground.

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Let's go to the the beginning of this.

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Where did all of this come from?

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it was the red scare

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the Soviets, but it's also the red scare

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that's led to the rise of the military

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industrial complex.

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Still the bane of all normal Americans to

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this day, which began the United States era

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of making war worldwide for profit and power

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and not to defend ourselves or our allies.

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Not only the Us itself mind you.

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But also like interfering in countries around the

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world such as the Cia causing tons of

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des stabilization, wars, all kinds of messed up

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stuff.

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So it reminds me of the old saying

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what came first?

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The chicken or the egg.

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If we get what I mean.

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The Clan research into the paranormal may have

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been ins by the latter events of World

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war 2,

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but

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it's still goes on all the way to

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the present day. Just under different names.

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Pseudo skeptics like to say this research ended

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in the nineties because it didn't have any

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results

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which is bullshit.

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But that's exactly what the powers that b,

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wants you to think.

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And they love their little pseudo skeptics.

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As I'm sure you know, many Nazis had

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more than a mild interest in the occult

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and supernatural.

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And it is the nazi research into the

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paranormal

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that sparked the psychic arms race between the

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Us and the Soviets over the next decades.

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In 19 45.

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The United States launched

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operation Als,

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which was an intelligence mission to seize documents

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concerning German military projects from Berlin before the

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Soviets could.

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I'm Rick Ke

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organization known as En,

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which was very well funded by the third

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reich, left behind huge caches of documents that

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surprised the operatives.

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Because a lot of them concerned,

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quote, quote, the occult sciences.

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To which I'm sure that you know a

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lot of the nazis were deeply invested in.

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Handler

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organization left behind a bizarre paper trail about

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secret history.

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Magical objects, and esoteric powers.

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They'd gone all over the world looking for

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coal artifacts.

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And long lost archeological sites that revealed unknown

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knowledge about humanity.

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These documents

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revealed nazi research into remote viewing.

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Psycho

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and myriad other psychic powers.

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In the book phenomena,

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from what a lot of the information in

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this episode originates,

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Go check it out to be linked.

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Author Annie Jacobs says the following

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quote.

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In that

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organization, there was Esp.

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Psycho,

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map do,

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an element of what you could say was

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the supernatural

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or the paranormal.

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In the Villas basement,

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the researchers found remnants of tu ton symbols

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and rights,

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as well as a baby skull in a

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corner pit of ashes

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We later learned that the Soviets had captured

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an equal probe of information on the same

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subject.

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And when we learned, that they were working

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in this area.

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You could say this is the Origin story

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of the psychic arms race.

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Quote,

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Some of these documents of the third reich

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even contains information about research, the nazis did

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to discover mind control techniques.

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And this is what sparked the later Cia

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investment in mind control research, which led to

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the Covert and Morally bankrupt corrupt Mk Ultra

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program.

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You've heard of that right.

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The Mk Ultra program

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originated from Nazi research.

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So it seems like a lot of dark

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and mysterious stuff is happening here. Right?

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But What exactly turned this discovery of bizarre

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Nazi research

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into a full blown psychic arms race?

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Well, that's because the Us intelligence agency of

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the time,

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Cia didn't exist yet.

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Discovered that the Soviets also discovered a whole

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crap of research the Nazis had on the

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paranormal.

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And the United States military can the possibility

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of the Soviet Union, mastering mine control before

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them, to be an existential threat. The communist

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regime ran constant reruns a propaganda on television,

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picturing captured Americans,

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displaying brain behavior.

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So their fear was not. Wholly unjust.

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The Soviets were pumping out tons of propaganda

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after the end of the war,

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including stories of famous world war 2 heroin,

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for The,

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who was a decorated war hero, and the

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Soviet Union's top psychic at the time.

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The narrative was that N has psycho

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powers and could stop an animal heart with

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only using her mind.

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Can you hold on for a sec and

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just imagine

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this era

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of like the Us military

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pretty much openly taken this stuff kinda of

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dead seriously?

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Like, what a bizarre

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time to be alive.

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And all of these caches of nazi documents

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they found on mind control in brainwashing and

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stuff They also found documents concerning human

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experimentation.

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Like,

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Frankenstein,

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like

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The Japanese also conducted horrific experiments on innocent

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people during world war 2, and the third

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reich utilized a lot of their prisoners and

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concentration camps for their experiments,

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much like the Japanese.

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The Nazis pushed human physiology.

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And mental capacity to the extreme on these

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poor souls,

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all the while heavily monitoring their results in

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a elaborate

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documentation.

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Quote.

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Now, the Cia

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and the Kgb

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would conduct similar experiments.

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Each side arguing that the other side's program

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required countermeasures measures to defend against them.

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While they were looking into mind research and

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how to input behavior. The Mk Ultra sub

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project 58

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became significant,

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which is the program to use drugs, which

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they call

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psycho pharmacology

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to enhance psychic functioning, in psychic people.

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It's a real jumping off point for understanding

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how and why this race against the Soviets

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began and why it's legitimate in many ways.

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And a quote.

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But how could the Us possibly justify research

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into something as morally dark as mind control.

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The Soviet Union and the Us for both

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pointing fingers at each other to justify their

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evil. The claim from both sides was that

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1 had to counter the other.

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Not only in mind control, but in mil

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psychic phenomena as well.

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And the fear mon of this time was

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just crazy. It's just back when they I

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used to have like,

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you know how at school or maybe at

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your job. You have, like, fire escape drills

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and practices and stuff like that. Well, this

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is the era where they had

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nuclear attack drills.

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They would have nuclear attack drills in schools

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where the kids would just get under their

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desk which wouldn't do anything as in is

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ridiculous,

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but it was definitely imprint those kids with

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some serious fear.

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So,

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you know, the

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cold war was an interesting time to be

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alive,

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but it was also pre horrifying.

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Just like the psychological aspect of it, being

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around all that propaganda and stuff, and just

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the constant threat pushed on your throat.

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I guess every generation kind of has its

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frost to bear,

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but still it's

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and I bet it sucks.

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But,

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anyway,

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Hello? Dear listener. Have you ever had a

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Have you ever seen a Ufo or something

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that you could not explain. Have you ever

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witnessed anomalous activity that defines reality?

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Have you ever experienced unexplained mysteries of existence?

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If you have your own cryptic tail and

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Just make sure you thought about where you

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leave your name where your phone or any

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Once again, Call 1 800

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9. That's 1 800

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757.

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06:04

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9. We look forward to hearing from you.

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Despite how silly a lot of the rumors

601
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and Propaganda was at this time.

602
00:25:16,369 --> 00:25:18,769
The disinformation campaigns on the Soviet side as

603
00:25:18,769 --> 00:25:20,769
well as the Us side really heated up.

604
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And

605
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when the full drive,

606
00:25:23,664 --> 00:25:25,821
wish the Us government would get really good

607
00:25:25,821 --> 00:25:27,899
at and our objective masters of it today.

608
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But with each of these rumors and pieces

609
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of propaganda,

610
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slightly based on actual facts, the psychic arms

611
00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:36,549
race, picked up speed big time.

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There be many government programs researching psychic phenomena,

613
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and the duties revolving around this research would

614
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be thrown back and forth between the Department

615
00:25:46,325 --> 00:25:47,944
of Defense and the Cia.

616
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With programs being shut down and then reopened

617
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under different names. Time and time again.

618
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The most famous of these programs would, of

619
00:25:56,306 --> 00:25:59,635
course be the legendary project Star gate within

620
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go swan,

621
00:26:01,061 --> 00:26:02,250
but we'll get to that in a bit.

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In the 19 seventies, the department of Defense

623
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was conducting research specifically

624
00:26:08,811 --> 00:26:10,250
into the active remote viewing.

625
00:26:10,744 --> 00:26:13,221
This remote viewing program revolved around the lore

626
00:26:13,221 --> 00:26:16,018
concerning a mystical ability someone can use. To

627
00:26:16,018 --> 00:26:19,109
visualize details of distant people and place it

628
00:26:19,309 --> 00:26:20,129
using Tele,

629
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or Esp or any of those words.

630
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1 of the places they used for their

631
00:26:26,342 --> 00:26:28,594
experiments was a building located at fort George

632
00:26:28,753 --> 00:26:31,466
Meade Army facility, in Fort Meade, Maryland,

633
00:26:32,025 --> 00:26:34,020
And another operation was going on at the

634
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right Patterson Air force base in Ohio. Which

635
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employed a secretary named Rosa Smith, who believes

636
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herself to be a psychic.

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Quote,

638
00:26:42,509 --> 00:26:44,529
it was a very small budget program.

639
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Because most people thought it was bananas

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00:26:48,513 --> 00:26:49,710
quote, phenomena.

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The location would change in times of emergency

642
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emissions though.

643
00:26:55,068 --> 00:26:56,578
Like in 19 76,

644
00:26:56,975 --> 00:26:58,565
when they were given the task of finding

645
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a downed American pilot through remote viewing.

646
00:27:01,982 --> 00:27:02,141
Quote,

647
00:27:03,033 --> 00:27:05,427
A Soviet bomber had gone down in the

648
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jungles of Africa,

649
00:27:07,183 --> 00:27:08,082
and the Cia

650
00:27:08,779 --> 00:27:10,237
and military intelligence

651
00:27:10,789 --> 00:27:12,327
had used every intelligence

652
00:27:12,785 --> 00:27:15,578
collections means available to them from the satellite

653
00:27:15,578 --> 00:27:16,078
technology

654
00:27:16,696 --> 00:27:17,595
to sick

655
00:27:18,053 --> 00:27:19,330
to human intelligence.

656
00:27:19,984 --> 00:27:21,683
And they had absolutely nothing

657
00:27:23,500 --> 00:27:24,000
quote

658
00:27:25,098 --> 00:27:28,190
With nothing to lose, the military contacted the

659
00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:30,940
viewing operation at Patterson, and they put the

660
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:33,492
psychic rosemary smith on the job, to which

661
00:27:33,492 --> 00:27:36,442
she actually drew maps that pinpoint where this

662
00:27:36,442 --> 00:27:37,000
aircraft was.

663
00:27:37,573 --> 00:27:39,407
At least within a few miles within the

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actual location, which is really good. And anyone's

665
00:27:42,596 --> 00:27:44,270
chance of doing that it's like 1 in

666
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a Brazilian million.

667
00:27:46,995 --> 00:27:48,986
The cable was sent to the Cia, and

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00:27:48,986 --> 00:27:50,739
they sent a paramilitary military team out into

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the jungle, you know, in the area where

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Rosemary Smith said it would be.

671
00:27:55,454 --> 00:27:57,292
They saw a village carrying a piece of

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aircraft out of their jungle, and that led

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them exactly to the plane.

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This was a paradigm

675
00:28:03,858 --> 00:28:05,445
shattering, events of many people.

676
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,032
Because it would go on to be 1

677
00:28:07,032 --> 00:28:09,254
of the most successful documented events of a

678
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psychic using remote renewing to great effect. That

679
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the military could touch and feel.

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And by that, I mean any form of

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00:28:17,225 --> 00:28:17,384
like,

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objective evidence of a successful remote viewing session.

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In the 19 sixties,

684
00:28:26,541 --> 00:28:28,947
meta physics became popular among physicists.

685
00:28:29,654 --> 00:28:33,095
At the Stanford Research institute. Harold, how put

686
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off, a physicist who was an expert in

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quantum electronics and electron beam devices.

688
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Began some interesting

689
00:28:40,950 --> 00:28:42,630
research in 19 72.

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Harold K was interested in questions like

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what his life?

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00:28:48,244 --> 00:28:49,443
Why is life?

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Because there was no theory as he knew

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it that could describe life's processes.

695
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Is thinking led him to want to attain

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a grant for research in D quantum biology.

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He worked for the country's second largest defense

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department research facility.

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00:29:06,130 --> 00:29:08,112
Located at the heart of Silicon Valley in

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Northern California.

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00:29:10,331 --> 00:29:10,831
So

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00:29:11,995 --> 00:29:12,812
r I

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00:29:13,359 --> 00:29:14,477
was kind of a big deal.

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00:29:15,275 --> 00:29:17,670
And P had heavy hit backing him up.

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00:29:18,708 --> 00:29:20,784
He had also worked for the Us Navy

706
00:29:20,784 --> 00:29:22,860
intelligence before his time as a scientist.

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00:29:23,513 --> 00:29:25,986
And as a navy lieutenant, he was loaned

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00:29:25,986 --> 00:29:26,943
out to the Nsa.

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00:29:27,661 --> 00:29:29,117
So though he was a scientist.

710
00:29:29,814 --> 00:29:32,526
He was no stranger top secret government were.

711
00:29:34,380 --> 00:29:37,819
Passion was quantum physics, an esoteric concepts like

712
00:29:37,819 --> 00:29:38,779
quantum entanglement,

713
00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:42,714
0 point energy, at how quantum theory might

714
00:29:42,714 --> 00:29:44,734
account for biological life processes?

715
00:29:45,434 --> 00:29:46,315
Hence this question,

716
00:29:47,355 --> 00:29:48,794
why is life?

717
00:29:50,154 --> 00:29:50,609
And

718
00:29:51,129 --> 00:29:53,307
His fascination with quantum biology

719
00:29:54,166 --> 00:29:55,205
was quite profound.

720
00:29:56,324 --> 00:29:58,961
Precisely what he wanted to know more about

721
00:29:58,961 --> 00:30:01,684
was the elusive idea. Of Tac particles.

722
00:30:03,352 --> 00:30:04,782
He wrote a letter to a man named

723
00:30:04,782 --> 00:30:05,838
to Cl Baxter,

724
00:30:06,291 --> 00:30:08,380
who was an infamous Cia analyst

725
00:30:08,928 --> 00:30:10,201
specializing in deception.

726
00:30:11,157 --> 00:30:14,182
Herald thought that Baxter experiments with plants could

727
00:30:14,182 --> 00:30:16,172
have some connection to Tac on particles.

728
00:30:16,983 --> 00:30:17,881
The baxter

729
00:30:18,336 --> 00:30:18,836
effect

730
00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:20,404
and Baxter book.

731
00:30:20,961 --> 00:30:22,574
The secret life of plants

732
00:30:22,949 --> 00:30:25,055
would go down in his stray as a

733
00:30:25,112 --> 00:30:28,612
notoriously rev work of research by established science.

734
00:30:29,248 --> 00:30:32,315
Baxter experiments showed plants have a form of

735
00:30:32,615 --> 00:30:34,234
communication analogous to Esp

736
00:30:35,014 --> 00:30:37,894
and could show pain and fear as well

737
00:30:37,894 --> 00:30:40,701
as actually registered the presence of a human

738
00:30:40,701 --> 00:30:41,178
next to it.

739
00:30:42,528 --> 00:30:44,515
Since its plants have no nervous system.

740
00:30:44,992 --> 00:30:47,058
This whole idea like really pissed a lot

741
00:30:47,058 --> 00:30:48,194
of scientists off

742
00:30:48,504 --> 00:30:50,018
and still due to this and still does

743
00:30:50,097 --> 00:30:51,054
I mean to this day.

744
00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:52,488
However,

745
00:30:53,125 --> 00:30:55,458
Harold P thought that Tac particles

746
00:30:56,087 --> 00:30:58,733
could be just how plants feel pain or

747
00:30:58,869 --> 00:31:00,084
express this anomalous

748
00:31:00,538 --> 00:31:02,310
communication through analogous Esp.

749
00:31:03,734 --> 00:31:05,974
But by the time Harold letter reached Baxter.

750
00:31:06,295 --> 00:31:08,295
He had already moved on to human and

751
00:31:08,295 --> 00:31:10,055
plant, psychic experiments.

752
00:31:11,424 --> 00:31:14,203
And his test subject was a man named

753
00:31:14,282 --> 00:31:15,235
Ing Swan.

754
00:31:16,823 --> 00:31:18,887
And I know it's likely since you are

755
00:31:18,887 --> 00:31:21,446
interested in cryptic chronicles, you've heard of Ing

756
00:31:21,446 --> 00:31:22,241
swan before.

757
00:31:23,037 --> 00:31:23,752
That go,

758
00:31:24,548 --> 00:31:26,162
he had a fascinating backstory.

759
00:31:27,349 --> 00:31:29,586
He was basically considered a weirdo all his

760
00:31:29,586 --> 00:31:30,785
life and an outsider.

761
00:31:31,584 --> 00:31:33,821
Since he was a child Swan claimed to

762
00:31:33,821 --> 00:31:34,940
experience prem permissions.

763
00:31:35,514 --> 00:31:37,270
And that he could see people's aura, as

764
00:31:37,270 --> 00:31:38,967
well as a bunch of other more mystical

765
00:31:39,105 --> 00:31:39,584
abilities.

766
00:31:40,462 --> 00:31:42,058
Swan said he could go into a dream

767
00:31:42,058 --> 00:31:44,148
state and leave his body. And travel far

768
00:31:44,148 --> 00:31:45,926
and wide, basically doing

769
00:31:46,385 --> 00:31:48,942
astra projection Ob, that good stuff.

770
00:31:50,634 --> 00:31:53,424
His maternal grandmother claims to also be a

771
00:31:53,424 --> 00:31:53,902
sensitive,

772
00:31:54,301 --> 00:31:56,374
and his family was actually pretty supportive in

773
00:31:56,374 --> 00:31:58,208
his whole meta physical path.

774
00:31:59,419 --> 00:32:00,698
In 19 55,

775
00:32:01,177 --> 00:32:03,414
He graduated college with a double major in

776
00:32:03,414 --> 00:32:04,453
biology and art.

777
00:32:05,652 --> 00:32:07,823
Swan wanted to become a scientist. And get

778
00:32:07,823 --> 00:32:10,377
a degree in genetic research. However,

779
00:32:10,776 --> 00:32:12,212
he ended up a listing in the Us

780
00:32:12,212 --> 00:32:12,531
army.

781
00:32:13,329 --> 00:32:15,977
He served 3 years in Korea. But eventually

782
00:32:15,977 --> 00:32:17,733
left the army in 19 58,

783
00:32:18,052 --> 00:32:19,250
and moved to New York City.

784
00:32:19,888 --> 00:32:22,202
Swan was determined to make a living as

785
00:32:22,202 --> 00:32:22,841
an artist.

786
00:32:23,653 --> 00:32:24,845
But, of course, he had to pay the

787
00:32:24,845 --> 00:32:27,070
bills, so he had a day job as

788
00:32:27,070 --> 00:32:28,659
a clerk at the office of the United

789
00:32:28,898 --> 00:32:29,715
Nations secretary.

790
00:32:31,617 --> 00:32:33,133
Swan did this for 12 years,

791
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:35,446
but at night and on weekends,

792
00:32:36,084 --> 00:32:38,636
he was dedicated to arts and was immersed

793
00:32:38,636 --> 00:32:40,231
in the New York City art scene.

794
00:32:41,601 --> 00:32:43,593
And this is where he met the legendary

795
00:32:43,593 --> 00:32:45,346
artist named Be Mu.

796
00:32:45,983 --> 00:32:48,190
She was 1 of those high society types

797
00:32:48,548 --> 00:32:50,721
and walked at a crowd of the powerful

798
00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:52,373
and influential in New York.

799
00:32:53,488 --> 00:32:53,988
And

800
00:32:54,683 --> 00:32:57,096
1 of her favorite topics was actually psychic

801
00:32:57,153 --> 00:32:57,472
phenomena,

802
00:32:58,283 --> 00:33:00,584
so the 2 actually had a lot to

803
00:33:00,584 --> 00:33:03,203
talk about and got along really well right

804
00:33:03,203 --> 00:33:03,759
off the bat.

805
00:33:04,869 --> 00:33:06,139
Had 1 of Moon parties.

806
00:33:06,949 --> 00:33:08,144
Swan cl baxter,

807
00:33:08,622 --> 00:33:11,012
The same baxter that I just mentioned who

808
00:33:11,012 --> 00:33:12,685
was doing all those plant experiments.

809
00:33:13,721 --> 00:33:15,314
That you would liked each other and hit

810
00:33:15,314 --> 00:33:16,111
it off nicely.

811
00:33:16,603 --> 00:33:19,068
With Swan eventually asking if he could actually

812
00:33:19,068 --> 00:33:20,738
come physically baxter at his lap.

813
00:33:21,533 --> 00:33:24,180
Swan later recalls in an unpublished biography.

814
00:33:24,649 --> 00:33:26,792
That he wanted to see how plants reacted

815
00:33:26,792 --> 00:33:28,936
to human thoughts in a scientific environment.

816
00:33:29,650 --> 00:33:31,556
So wanted to sell himself out as a

817
00:33:31,556 --> 00:33:34,748
psychic guinea pig and hopes that he could

818
00:33:34,748 --> 00:33:36,896
quit his horrible day job do this kind

819
00:33:36,896 --> 00:33:37,873
of stuff and

820
00:33:39,044 --> 00:33:39,998
focus on his arts.

821
00:33:41,449 --> 00:33:42,647
Little did everyone know.

822
00:33:43,606 --> 00:33:44,746
In swan

823
00:33:45,125 --> 00:33:46,963
would revolutionize remote viewing,

824
00:33:47,682 --> 00:33:49,520
as well as psychic research in general,

825
00:33:51,285 --> 00:33:53,748
Swan worked very well with Cl Baxter and

826
00:33:53,748 --> 00:33:56,609
eventually. Baxter told him about Har Put letter.

827
00:33:57,499 --> 00:33:59,810
So now we have come full circle,

828
00:34:00,607 --> 00:34:02,998
the holy Trinity of Psychic research,

829
00:34:03,795 --> 00:34:04,671
in swan.

830
00:34:05,482 --> 00:34:05,982
Baxter,

831
00:34:06,517 --> 00:34:07,233
and put off.

832
00:34:08,267 --> 00:34:10,813
This research done at the Stanford Research Institute

833
00:34:10,813 --> 00:34:11,711
would become

834
00:34:13,374 --> 00:34:15,385
legendary of people who

835
00:34:16,158 --> 00:34:17,056
enjoy the paranormal

836
00:34:17,749 --> 00:34:18,885
and para psychology

837
00:34:19,673 --> 00:34:21,106
you know all that type of people.

838
00:34:22,699 --> 00:34:25,405
Throughout the seventies and eighties, Ing became New

839
00:34:25,485 --> 00:34:26,144
York City's

840
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,316
super psychic.

841
00:34:27,968 --> 00:34:31,097
And pioneered remote viewing out of body experiences,

842
00:34:31,632 --> 00:34:33,704
and other myriad paranormal research.

843
00:34:34,914 --> 00:34:37,952
Harold e put off and swan conducted their

844
00:34:37,952 --> 00:34:39,470
experiments but the tight scrutiny,

845
00:34:40,029 --> 00:34:42,906
and ru for error was completely removed to

846
00:34:42,906 --> 00:34:44,105
the greatest of their abilities.

847
00:34:45,710 --> 00:34:48,089
Their work at R drew the attention of

848
00:34:48,168 --> 00:34:49,144
Put colleagues

849
00:34:49,596 --> 00:34:50,333
who dis

850
00:34:50,944 --> 00:34:51,444
greatly.

851
00:34:52,864 --> 00:34:55,838
P believed he had the technology and abilities

852
00:34:56,057 --> 00:34:58,473
to research psychic phenomena with scientific

853
00:34:58,931 --> 00:35:01,426
accuracy. So he dismissed his

854
00:35:03,337 --> 00:35:05,095
more mine slave type,

855
00:35:05,893 --> 00:35:07,891
colleagues that looked down on his work.

856
00:35:09,421 --> 00:35:10,216
Another physicist,

857
00:35:10,853 --> 00:35:13,000
Russell Tar, would also joined them in a

858
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,760
psychic research who has his name attached all

859
00:35:15,799 --> 00:35:17,388
a stuff as well and is his own

860
00:35:17,388 --> 00:35:19,795
like kind of celebrity concerning all this

861
00:35:20,168 --> 00:35:21,042
psychic research.

862
00:35:22,234 --> 00:35:23,981
It didn't take long for the Cia to

863
00:35:23,981 --> 00:35:27,016
approach p off for Esp tests concerning Ing

864
00:35:27,016 --> 00:35:27,335
swan.

865
00:35:28,050 --> 00:35:30,355
With the R, just an offs shoot of

866
00:35:30,355 --> 00:35:31,467
the Department of Defense.

867
00:35:32,119 --> 00:35:33,790
They had all the funding they could ever

868
00:35:33,790 --> 00:35:34,029
want.

869
00:35:36,178 --> 00:35:38,248
At first they approached Put off swan to

870
00:35:38,248 --> 00:35:39,442
do some simple tests.

871
00:35:40,093 --> 00:35:41,758
Basically, just over the course of a couple

872
00:35:41,758 --> 00:35:43,210
weeks to see if he was

873
00:35:43,820 --> 00:35:44,954
not a Char.

874
00:35:45,882 --> 00:35:47,547
You know, and if he's passed the test,

875
00:35:48,039 --> 00:35:50,033
made move forward with Swan for the remote

876
00:35:50,033 --> 00:35:50,751
viewing program.

877
00:35:52,266 --> 00:35:54,101
However, Swan wasn't told the truth about all

878
00:35:54,101 --> 00:35:56,196
this stuff, he was told that the Cia

879
00:35:56,414 --> 00:35:57,824
agents were actually just

880
00:35:58,582 --> 00:36:00,098
academic colleagues of food off.

881
00:36:02,570 --> 00:36:04,564
So the tests were basically, he didn't know

882
00:36:04,564 --> 00:36:06,159
what was going on. So he didn't have

883
00:36:06,159 --> 00:36:07,595
any reason to do anything.

884
00:36:08,089 --> 00:36:09,068
Out of the ordinary.

885
00:36:10,406 --> 00:36:12,883
Essentially, you're pretty much guaranteeing that these tests

886
00:36:12,883 --> 00:36:14,661
that they did on Swan were

887
00:36:15,534 --> 00:36:16,434
were not compromised.

888
00:36:17,614 --> 00:36:20,414
These simple tests consisted of, what's in the

889
00:36:20,414 --> 00:36:21,454
box, tests,

890
00:36:21,934 --> 00:36:23,855
in which they put off supplies and other

891
00:36:23,855 --> 00:36:26,337
mundane simple objects sub box and then asked

892
00:36:26,495 --> 00:36:28,874
Swan to tell them specifically what was inside.

893
00:36:29,350 --> 00:36:30,722
This is a common Esp,

894
00:36:31,570 --> 00:36:32,626
like research

895
00:36:32,934 --> 00:36:35,002
test to see if people have psychic abilities.

896
00:36:36,115 --> 00:36:38,184
However, this did open the test up for

897
00:36:38,184 --> 00:36:40,907
cheating since the scientists would know what was

898
00:36:40,907 --> 00:36:42,983
in the box and could tip off Swan,

899
00:36:43,621 --> 00:36:44,840
you know, but

900
00:36:45,856 --> 00:36:47,852
Swan still didn't know that these were Cia

901
00:36:47,852 --> 00:36:48,650
guys doing all this.

902
00:36:50,099 --> 00:36:52,249
In any case to make sure sure that

903
00:36:52,249 --> 00:36:53,523
nothing funny was going on.

904
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,548
1 Cia agent thought of a fraud proof

905
00:36:56,548 --> 00:36:56,787
test.

906
00:36:57,598 --> 00:36:59,509
He went out into the R garden and

907
00:36:59,509 --> 00:37:00,703
grabbed a small brown moth.

908
00:37:01,579 --> 00:37:03,967
With the math alive, he placed inside a

909
00:37:03,967 --> 00:37:05,241
box and sealed the lid.

910
00:37:05,894 --> 00:37:07,812
Then he went side to the testing area

911
00:37:07,812 --> 00:37:09,490
where Swan was and asked.

912
00:37:10,369 --> 00:37:12,926
Can you tell us what's inside this box?

913
00:37:15,019 --> 00:37:15,838
Swan concentrated.

914
00:37:16,697 --> 00:37:18,694
And said that the object was very small.

915
00:37:19,493 --> 00:37:22,050
It looked kinda like a leaf was brown.

916
00:37:22,464 --> 00:37:24,218
And was moving like it was alive.

917
00:37:25,095 --> 00:37:27,567
The Cia Agent opened the lid and showed

918
00:37:27,567 --> 00:37:28,204
everyone the moth,

919
00:37:28,842 --> 00:37:30,937
and was completely astonished

920
00:37:31,487 --> 00:37:33,635
It's it's an understatement to say that the

921
00:37:33,794 --> 00:37:35,146
Cia agent was impressed.

922
00:37:36,578 --> 00:37:39,062
Shortly after this event, the group given government

923
00:37:39,062 --> 00:37:41,135
funding for an 8 month long program of

924
00:37:41,135 --> 00:37:44,246
research. The program was called, the bio field

925
00:37:44,246 --> 00:37:45,522
measurement program.

926
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:47,596
And was labeled top secret.

927
00:37:48,806 --> 00:37:51,275
What the group didn't know was that Yuri

928
00:37:51,434 --> 00:37:52,948
Gel was about to be brought into the

929
00:37:53,266 --> 00:37:55,496
R program as well as also take place

930
00:37:55,496 --> 00:37:56,213
in the testing.

931
00:37:57,264 --> 00:38:00,481
The results called quote quote, beg gel Swan

932
00:38:00,541 --> 00:38:00,860
phenomena,

933
00:38:01,579 --> 00:38:03,737
set the stage for government research into the

934
00:38:03,737 --> 00:38:05,655
paranormal for the next 20 years.

935
00:38:06,708 --> 00:38:08,320
All the research in 2 Para

936
00:38:08,694 --> 00:38:09,432
and psycho

937
00:38:09,806 --> 00:38:11,871
well through the nineties would be based on

938
00:38:11,871 --> 00:38:14,493
this research as the standard to judge by.

939
00:38:15,461 --> 00:38:17,605
And if you don't know why like, I

940
00:38:17,605 --> 00:38:19,193
kinda made it seem like you're a gel

941
00:38:19,193 --> 00:38:20,940
coming in was a big deal. If you

942
00:38:20,940 --> 00:38:22,369
don't know who your gel is.

943
00:38:23,259 --> 00:38:26,366
He's kinda similar to Ing swan, but a

944
00:38:26,366 --> 00:38:27,880
little bit more notorious.

945
00:38:28,916 --> 00:38:29,234
And

946
00:38:30,525 --> 00:38:32,445
your Gel would actually prove to be an

947
00:38:32,445 --> 00:38:35,324
issue concerning intelligence security because of his celebrity

948
00:38:35,324 --> 00:38:35,565
status.

949
00:38:36,125 --> 00:38:37,565
He was a big deal. He was like,

950
00:38:38,125 --> 00:38:40,456
those old Remember the show's in the nineties

951
00:38:40,456 --> 00:38:43,410
early 2 thousands of people doing like Psychic

952
00:38:43,410 --> 00:38:45,485
stuff on Tv and everyone was like, whoa.

953
00:38:46,364 --> 00:38:47,561
I forget that guy's name.

954
00:38:48,454 --> 00:38:49,968
But he was like that guy, but way

955
00:38:49,968 --> 00:38:50,286
bigger.

956
00:38:52,199 --> 00:38:54,270
Chris angel, there was a lot of them.

957
00:38:56,434 --> 00:38:56,673
Anyway,

958
00:38:57,547 --> 00:39:00,194
and pseudo skeptics and establishments,

959
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,453
power structures of oppression

960
00:39:04,081 --> 00:39:06,784
really hate the sky or hide the sky.

961
00:39:08,135 --> 00:39:10,599
Here's a quote, from these sometimes reliable source

962
00:39:10,599 --> 00:39:12,586
of information depending on the subject,

963
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:13,958
wikipedia?

964
00:39:15,077 --> 00:39:15,396
Quote.

965
00:39:16,275 --> 00:39:18,591
Your gel is an Israeli entertainer,

966
00:39:19,231 --> 00:39:19,731
rider

967
00:39:20,124 --> 00:39:20,863
and television

968
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,640
personality,

969
00:39:22,278 --> 00:39:25,230
gained fame and Notoriety, for claims that he

970
00:39:25,230 --> 00:39:27,246
has supernatural psychic abilities

971
00:39:27,878 --> 00:39:29,792
He gain no notoriety after a series of

972
00:39:29,792 --> 00:39:32,424
television appearances, in which she appeared to ben

973
00:39:32,504 --> 00:39:32,983
Spoons,

974
00:39:33,541 --> 00:39:34,759
start stopped watches,

975
00:39:35,136 --> 00:39:36,651
and other mysterious beats.

976
00:39:37,780 --> 00:39:40,001
Gel is famous for his ability to bend

977
00:39:40,001 --> 00:39:40,398
spoons,

978
00:39:40,873 --> 00:39:43,174
although he has a number of critics.

979
00:39:44,364 --> 00:39:45,260
He is a mental

980
00:39:45,729 --> 00:39:46,869
who uses trickery

981
00:39:47,248 --> 00:39:50,125
to stimulate side or paranormal ability.

982
00:39:51,083 --> 00:39:54,040
His signature trick is bending spoons while no

983
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:54,680
1 is looking.

984
00:39:55,332 --> 00:39:55,810
However,

985
00:39:56,208 --> 00:39:59,233
he has crossed a line, most men only

986
00:39:59,233 --> 00:39:59,711
flirt with,

987
00:40:00,427 --> 00:40:00,927
claiming

988
00:40:01,303 --> 00:40:02,918
that he performs his feet

989
00:40:03,309 --> 00:40:04,607
with true psychic capability

990
00:40:05,224 --> 00:40:06,362
and not trickery.

991
00:40:08,096 --> 00:40:08,655
And quote,

992
00:40:09,453 --> 00:40:09,851
wikipedia.

993
00:40:11,780 --> 00:40:13,692
See how bias outlook what a Pe article

994
00:40:13,692 --> 00:40:13,852
is.

995
00:40:16,003 --> 00:40:17,278
Totally trustworthy right?

996
00:40:18,648 --> 00:40:22,165
Yuri gel would conduct many experiments concerning psycho

997
00:40:22,459 --> 00:40:24,206
and other Esp abilities.

998
00:40:24,682 --> 00:40:27,144
The Cia concluded that many of the successful

999
00:40:27,144 --> 00:40:27,382
tests.

1000
00:40:27,954 --> 00:40:28,773
Had the probability

1001
00:40:29,150 --> 00:40:31,224
of 1 in a trillion.

1002
00:40:32,820 --> 00:40:35,466
1 word of the Cia experimenting with celebrity

1003
00:40:35,466 --> 00:40:37,848
psychic like Gary Gel reached the Pentagon.

1004
00:40:38,484 --> 00:40:39,516
Questions were asked.

1005
00:40:40,787 --> 00:40:43,249
Food off and park assured them with an

1006
00:40:43,249 --> 00:40:43,964
official statement.

1007
00:40:44,694 --> 00:40:46,921
That they were conducting these experiments with the

1008
00:40:46,921 --> 00:40:49,944
strict oversight, so faking the results was next

1009
00:40:49,944 --> 00:40:50,739
to impossible.

1010
00:40:51,789 --> 00:40:53,406
With the long history of Charlotte

1011
00:40:53,783 --> 00:40:55,857
concerning psychic abilities, which is true.

1012
00:40:56,575 --> 00:41:00,005
Other government agencies outside the intelligence agencies began

1013
00:41:00,005 --> 00:41:01,360
to sla the experiments.

1014
00:41:02,012 --> 00:41:03,445
It seemed to be a mistake to have

1015
00:41:03,445 --> 00:41:06,413
a celebrity psychic like Yuri gel for their

1016
00:41:06,470 --> 00:41:06,868
experiments,

1017
00:41:07,505 --> 00:41:10,227
which honestly in hindsight probably is Well yeah,

1018
00:41:10,386 --> 00:41:11,263
That was a bad idea.

1019
00:41:12,139 --> 00:41:14,551
If they're trying to be legitimate, especially when

1020
00:41:14,848 --> 00:41:17,101
the gutter press can just sla or taint

1021
00:41:17,159 --> 00:41:18,911
anyone with there's if the unit, there's no

1022
00:41:18,911 --> 00:41:21,234
evidence as somebody the establishment doesn't like.

1023
00:41:22,109 --> 00:41:22,348
So...

1024
00:41:23,621 --> 00:41:25,132
But they did what they did however.

1025
00:41:26,087 --> 00:41:29,842
However, other military officials became legitimately interested in

1026
00:41:29,842 --> 00:41:31,911
the experiments and asked to join in on

1027
00:41:31,911 --> 00:41:32,468
the tests.

1028
00:41:33,423 --> 00:41:35,572
But this did not turn out that well.

1029
00:41:36,223 --> 00:41:38,131
As a more Sla was thrown at the

1030
00:41:38,131 --> 00:41:38,631
scientists.

1031
00:41:39,403 --> 00:41:41,550
But in the end, the Cia did not

1032
00:41:41,550 --> 00:41:43,618
care and continued the program,

1033
00:41:45,230 --> 00:41:47,389
Time magazine wrote a smear campaign because of

1034
00:41:47,389 --> 00:41:48,049
a whistleblower.

1035
00:41:48,670 --> 00:41:49,409
To which an

1036
00:41:49,710 --> 00:41:50,909
investigation was launched.

1037
00:41:51,630 --> 00:41:54,364
This whistleblower was never found though. But there

1038
00:41:54,364 --> 00:41:55,343
was a whole

1039
00:41:55,882 --> 00:41:58,998
anti gel crusade going on. And Sr was

1040
00:41:58,998 --> 00:42:00,776
targeted as well as Cia.

1041
00:42:01,809 --> 00:42:03,645
That take long to r up a mob

1042
00:42:03,645 --> 00:42:04,145
and,

1043
00:42:05,002 --> 00:42:07,397
you know, have them screeching into the sky.

1044
00:42:08,594 --> 00:42:11,243
Kid green, a Cia upper big got a

1045
00:42:11,243 --> 00:42:12,041
call from Put.

1046
00:42:12,918 --> 00:42:15,151
They talked about the drama concerning yuri gel

1047
00:42:15,151 --> 00:42:18,922
and Sri, Put remained do that Gel legitimately

1048
00:42:19,219 --> 00:42:20,495
showed Esp abilities,

1049
00:42:21,068 --> 00:42:23,637
green denied Gel abilities and wanted the whole

1050
00:42:23,774 --> 00:42:26,081
situation to just be laid to rest in

1051
00:42:26,081 --> 00:42:26,559
all of this.

1052
00:42:28,721 --> 00:42:31,024
Crusade against Gel and the Cia to just

1053
00:42:31,024 --> 00:42:32,215
kind be swept under the rug.

1054
00:42:32,850 --> 00:42:34,915
But Food rudolph was kind of a charming

1055
00:42:34,915 --> 00:42:37,157
guy and actually convince screen to talk to

1056
00:42:37,157 --> 00:42:38,614
1 of his scientific collaborators.

1057
00:42:39,629 --> 00:42:40,129
But

1058
00:42:40,666 --> 00:42:44,254
this scientific collaborator was actually yuri gel pretending

1059
00:42:44,254 --> 00:42:45,051
to be somebody else.

1060
00:42:45,941 --> 00:42:47,526
He convinced green to do a test.

1061
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:49,982
Green would put a book on his desk

1062
00:42:49,982 --> 00:42:52,121
to be remote viewed. And if it was

1063
00:42:52,121 --> 00:42:52,597
successful,

1064
00:42:52,929 --> 00:42:55,235
To this direct Cia Head Hon show guy,

1065
00:42:55,872 --> 00:42:57,940
then he agreed will go forward with the

1066
00:42:57,940 --> 00:42:59,293
experiments and I won't cancel it.

1067
00:42:59,944 --> 00:43:01,302
And green had been working out a whole

1068
00:43:01,302 --> 00:43:04,018
bunch of classified stuff specifically with some soviet

1069
00:43:04,018 --> 00:43:05,936
bio weapons that have effects on a human

1070
00:43:05,936 --> 00:43:06,175
brain.

1071
00:43:07,069 --> 00:43:08,588
He took the medical book he was using

1072
00:43:08,588 --> 00:43:10,824
for research and laid on his desk, then

1073
00:43:10,824 --> 00:43:12,502
opened it was an image of the human

1074
00:43:12,502 --> 00:43:13,221
brain displayed.

1075
00:43:15,074 --> 00:43:16,994
Back inside the lab R.

1076
00:43:17,875 --> 00:43:19,875
Yuri Gel began making sketches,

1077
00:43:20,675 --> 00:43:23,074
which looked like a pan of scrambled eggs.

1078
00:43:24,530 --> 00:43:26,530
P then relayed the image back to green.

1079
00:43:27,489 --> 00:43:30,130
And the Cia head Hon show Big guy

1080
00:43:30,130 --> 00:43:30,949
was baffled

1081
00:43:31,824 --> 00:43:33,425
because the image of the brain he had

1082
00:43:33,425 --> 00:43:34,324
on his desk

1083
00:43:34,944 --> 00:43:35,925
did indeed

1084
00:43:36,704 --> 00:43:37,984
looked like scrambled eggs.

1085
00:43:39,679 --> 00:43:40,977
At least without context.

1086
00:43:42,312 --> 00:43:44,626
Also there is no room for cheating here

1087
00:43:44,626 --> 00:43:46,462
because Kit Green was within a high security

1088
00:43:46,621 --> 00:43:47,340
Cia office.

1089
00:43:47,913 --> 00:43:51,023
With no way, anyone having any spy equipment

1090
00:43:51,023 --> 00:43:53,574
to, like, sur him or anything like that.

1091
00:43:53,893 --> 00:43:55,726
He worked on top secret projects there.

1092
00:43:56,459 --> 00:43:58,766
So all the staff was heavily vetted. It

1093
00:43:58,766 --> 00:44:00,300
was in any room here for

1094
00:44:01,152 --> 00:44:01,868
bunny business.

1095
00:44:03,554 --> 00:44:05,703
To green, there was no way it was

1096
00:44:05,703 --> 00:44:07,454
possible that Gel knew what was on his

1097
00:44:07,454 --> 00:44:07,693
desk.

1098
00:44:08,330 --> 00:44:10,878
But somehow he did. In the meantime, because

1099
00:44:10,878 --> 00:44:12,879
of all this cut Green did agree that

1100
00:44:12,879 --> 00:44:14,546
he would port Tar and put off in

1101
00:44:14,546 --> 00:44:15,260
their experiments.

1102
00:44:15,974 --> 00:44:18,038
But the decision to close down the program

1103
00:44:18,038 --> 00:44:19,720
or not was not up to that guy.

1104
00:44:19,958 --> 00:44:21,546
It was up to the Cia director of

1105
00:44:21,546 --> 00:44:21,943
the time.

1106
00:44:22,737 --> 00:44:25,357
But thanks to Green support as well as

1107
00:44:25,357 --> 00:44:27,047
a plethora of other objective

1108
00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:29,661
documentation of Es P research results.

1109
00:44:30,378 --> 00:44:33,105
The Cia director decided that the agency's paranormal

1110
00:44:33,242 --> 00:44:34,219
research was valuable,

1111
00:44:34,992 --> 00:44:36,583
and would not only be continued.

1112
00:44:37,393 --> 00:44:39,170
But be expanded upon

1113
00:44:39,706 --> 00:44:41,460
and receive even more funding.

1114
00:44:43,374 --> 00:44:45,288
Officially, the program would still be called the

1115
00:44:45,288 --> 00:44:46,999
bio field measurements program.

1116
00:44:48,015 --> 00:44:48,813
But internally,

1117
00:44:49,452 --> 00:44:51,707
would be called the paranormal perception

1118
00:44:52,165 --> 00:44:53,043
research project.

1119
00:44:54,493 --> 00:44:54,993
So

1120
00:44:55,764 --> 00:44:59,124
Yuri Gel essentially saved this very famous program,

1121
00:44:59,894 --> 00:45:02,119
and this story is just ridiculous. You just

1122
00:45:02,119 --> 00:45:03,548
can't make this stuff up right?

1123
00:45:04,998 --> 00:45:07,316
Reality is always stranger than fiction.

1124
00:45:08,515 --> 00:45:10,433
But I should inject here that there are

1125
00:45:10,433 --> 00:45:13,550
some, like pretty su stuff about Yuri gel.

1126
00:45:14,044 --> 00:45:15,958
So I'm not saying that I'm a true

1127
00:45:15,958 --> 00:45:17,155
believer 100 percent.

1128
00:45:17,952 --> 00:45:19,308
I'm pretty neutral on the matter.

1129
00:45:20,106 --> 00:45:22,259
But, I mean, if the Cia were taking

1130
00:45:22,259 --> 00:45:22,998
him seriously

1131
00:45:23,376 --> 00:45:24,750
in this au like.

1132
00:45:26,190 --> 00:45:29,230
This is a legitimate Cia documented story.

1133
00:45:30,110 --> 00:45:32,202
There's just more to the pick and there's

1134
00:45:32,202 --> 00:45:35,411
probably a lot more to yuri gel than

1135
00:45:36,187 --> 00:45:37,303
Wikipedia whatever admits.

1136
00:45:38,259 --> 00:45:40,106
He was also going at like, at the

1137
00:45:40,106 --> 00:45:41,697
same time, he was also going out into

1138
00:45:41,697 --> 00:45:43,072
the spotlight and,

1139
00:45:43,686 --> 00:45:45,754
you know, being an ego guy celebrity.

1140
00:45:46,644 --> 00:45:47,916
And those kind of people are just not

1141
00:45:47,916 --> 00:45:48,711
really trustworthy.

1142
00:45:49,347 --> 00:45:49,586
Overall.

1143
00:45:50,381 --> 00:45:53,267
So this probably like an aspect to him

1144
00:45:53,324 --> 00:45:55,391
that is legitimate. I mean, the Cia says

1145
00:45:55,391 --> 00:45:55,868
so. Right?

1146
00:45:56,759 --> 00:45:58,754
Whereas, you know, there is also this other

1147
00:45:58,754 --> 00:46:00,610
side to him that might be kinda

1148
00:46:00,989 --> 00:46:01,547
kinda su.

1149
00:46:02,585 --> 00:46:04,420
Still just like, really fascinating stuff.

1150
00:46:05,947 --> 00:46:08,572
Like I said, reality is always stranger than

1151
00:46:08,572 --> 00:46:10,958
fiction and who needs fiction when you got

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so many, like,

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Now with the ongoing tests of your gel

1212
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Ing swan.

1213
00:50:44,218 --> 00:50:47,155
1 of the most, like bizarre things that

1214
00:50:47,155 --> 00:50:48,480
happened through all these

1215
00:50:49,157 --> 00:50:49,657
experiments

1216
00:50:50,192 --> 00:50:51,786
with some remote viewing that had to do

1217
00:50:51,786 --> 00:50:52,423
with Nasa.

1218
00:50:53,618 --> 00:50:56,486
At this time in history, the probe Nasa

1219
00:50:56,566 --> 00:50:59,048
Pioneer 10 Fly by was soon to go

1220
00:50:59,048 --> 00:50:59,922
past Jupiter,

1221
00:51:00,557 --> 00:51:03,259
and Swan suggested an experiment and remote viewing

1222
00:51:03,259 --> 00:51:04,927
the planet before the probe got there.

1223
00:51:06,139 --> 00:51:07,657
Everyone was on board and he did so.

1224
00:51:08,297 --> 00:51:10,854
Nobody really expected too much from this because

1225
00:51:10,854 --> 00:51:13,251
this was... I mean, remote Was never really

1226
00:51:13,251 --> 00:51:14,291
done outside of.

1227
00:51:15,344 --> 00:51:16,060
The planet Earth,

1228
00:51:16,696 --> 00:51:18,844
so it was just kind of a hail

1229
00:51:18,923 --> 00:51:19,423
Mary

1230
00:51:19,958 --> 00:51:21,071
just to see what would happen.

1231
00:51:22,519 --> 00:51:24,754
After the remote viewing session was done, Swan

1232
00:51:24,754 --> 00:51:26,750
thought that he made a mistake. He thought

1233
00:51:26,750 --> 00:51:28,666
that he might have accidentally remote viewed Saturn

1234
00:51:28,666 --> 00:51:30,742
or something because there was a ring around

1235
00:51:30,742 --> 00:51:31,300
the planet.

1236
00:51:31,954 --> 00:51:34,030
This led to everyone being uni impressed with

1237
00:51:34,030 --> 00:51:36,185
the remote viewing experiment of planet Jupiter.

1238
00:51:37,223 --> 00:51:37,702
That is.

1239
00:51:38,980 --> 00:51:41,236
Until when Nasa pioneer 10

1240
00:51:41,868 --> 00:51:43,882
performed its fly by the planet

1241
00:51:44,339 --> 00:51:47,448
and relayed the data assert that the ring

1242
00:51:47,448 --> 00:51:49,202
swan saw While remote viewing.

1243
00:51:50,410 --> 00:51:51,680
Did indeed exist.

1244
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:54,856
Jupiter does have a small ring,

1245
00:51:55,571 --> 00:51:58,215
and nobody knew it until obviously,

1246
00:51:59,478 --> 00:52:00,536
this Nasa

1247
00:52:01,233 --> 00:52:01,733
probe

1248
00:52:02,110 --> 00:52:03,626
could relay that information,

1249
00:52:04,343 --> 00:52:07,693
but swan actually remote muted before this information

1250
00:52:07,693 --> 00:52:08,591
even existed

1251
00:52:09,702 --> 00:52:10,979
So, yeah, you heard that right.

1252
00:52:11,617 --> 00:52:13,394
Swan remote Jupiter's ring

1253
00:52:13,852 --> 00:52:15,608
before it was discovered by Nasa.

1254
00:52:19,286 --> 00:52:21,911
Expanding the protocols of how they conducted remote

1255
00:52:21,911 --> 00:52:23,264
viewing tests even further.

1256
00:52:24,233 --> 00:52:26,774
Swan off the idea of a designated target

1257
00:52:26,774 --> 00:52:29,712
not by sending a beacon person to the

1258
00:52:29,712 --> 00:52:31,856
target, but by geographical coordinates,

1259
00:52:32,429 --> 00:52:36,106
latitude and long and degrees, minutes and seconds.

1260
00:52:36,665 --> 00:52:39,222
The remote viewers who conducted this experiment were

1261
00:52:39,302 --> 00:52:41,060
Ing swan at pat price.

1262
00:52:41,954 --> 00:52:44,767
And the entire transcripts are available in d

1263
00:52:45,065 --> 00:52:45,565
documents

1264
00:52:45,942 --> 00:52:47,457
to which the following is a quote of

1265
00:52:47,457 --> 00:52:48,175
the experiment.

1266
00:52:49,850 --> 00:52:51,387
In order to subjects,

1267
00:52:52,336 --> 00:52:53,074
Remote spewing,

1268
00:52:54,005 --> 00:52:56,947
to a rigorous long distance test under external

1269
00:52:56,947 --> 00:53:00,537
open control. A request for geographical coordinates of

1270
00:53:00,537 --> 00:53:03,418
a site unknown to subject and experiment

1271
00:53:04,109 --> 00:53:07,284
was forwarded to the Os group, responsible for

1272
00:53:07,284 --> 00:53:09,048
threat analysis in this area.

1273
00:53:09,606 --> 00:53:10,324
In response,

1274
00:53:11,202 --> 00:53:12,180
R personnel

1275
00:53:12,956 --> 00:53:14,870
received a set of geographical importance,

1276
00:53:16,067 --> 00:53:16,567
and

1277
00:53:17,263 --> 00:53:20,804
and degrees minutes and seconds of a facility

1278
00:53:21,179 --> 00:53:24,440
here after referred to as the West Virginia

1279
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:24,679
site.

1280
00:53:25,966 --> 00:53:28,928
Experiment then cured out to remote queuing experiments

1281
00:53:28,984 --> 00:53:30,516
on a top blind basis

1282
00:53:31,207 --> 00:53:31,945
that is

1283
00:53:32,557 --> 00:53:35,433
applying to experiment as well as subject.

1284
00:53:37,109 --> 00:53:37,928
The experiment,

1285
00:53:38,306 --> 00:53:41,257
as it's called the determination of the utility

1286
00:53:41,257 --> 00:53:43,769
of remote viewing under conditions

1287
00:53:44,070 --> 00:53:46,230
approximating an operational scenario.

1288
00:53:48,309 --> 00:53:50,070
2 subjects started on the site,

1289
00:53:50,802 --> 00:53:51,540
a sensitive

1290
00:53:51,993 --> 00:53:52,151
installation,

1291
00:53:53,104 --> 00:53:55,327
1 subject to a detailed map of the

1292
00:53:55,327 --> 00:53:56,835
building and grounds layout.

1293
00:53:57,550 --> 00:53:58,129
The other

1294
00:53:58,598 --> 00:54:00,588
provided information about the interior,

1295
00:54:01,144 --> 00:54:02,043
including code,

1296
00:54:02,498 --> 00:54:03,475
data subsequently

1297
00:54:03,930 --> 00:54:05,067
verified by sponsor,

1298
00:54:07,128 --> 00:54:08,742
report available from C.

1299
00:54:13,589 --> 00:54:15,528
The majority of information and documents

1300
00:54:15,907 --> 00:54:18,864
concerning this experiments are pretty much so classified

1301
00:54:18,864 --> 00:54:19,583
to this day,

1302
00:54:20,302 --> 00:54:22,675
other than a handful of pages and stuff

1303
00:54:22,714 --> 00:54:24,650
that it has been allowed to be

1304
00:54:25,187 --> 00:54:26,862
given out through 4 years and whatnot.

1305
00:54:28,378 --> 00:54:29,813
So there's a lot about the stuff that

1306
00:54:29,813 --> 00:54:32,467
we still don't know. However, what is known

1307
00:54:32,859 --> 00:54:34,452
is that the project's clients,

1308
00:54:35,168 --> 00:54:35,907
the Cia

1309
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,106
became even more interested in these experiments after

1310
00:54:40,106 --> 00:54:40,982
they took place.

1311
00:54:41,874 --> 00:54:44,032
It was not thought before that remote viewing

1312
00:54:44,032 --> 00:54:46,109
could be done without a direct quote unquote,

1313
00:54:46,588 --> 00:54:47,068
beacon.

1314
00:54:48,666 --> 00:54:50,599
So the idea that I be done just

1315
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:51,658
by being given

1316
00:54:52,117 --> 00:54:53,177
geographical coordinates

1317
00:54:53,956 --> 00:54:54,275
was

1318
00:54:55,234 --> 00:54:56,992
a new thing and kind of a game

1319
00:54:56,992 --> 00:54:58,271
changer in these experiments.

1320
00:54:59,884 --> 00:55:02,506
The Cia remote viewer pad price found this

1321
00:55:02,506 --> 00:55:05,287
exercise so fascinating he suggested another experiment to

1322
00:55:05,287 --> 00:55:06,320
challenge his abilities.

1323
00:55:07,369 --> 00:55:09,523
It was really ambitious too he wanted to

1324
00:55:09,523 --> 00:55:11,038
remote View side of the planet.

1325
00:55:11,915 --> 00:55:12,553
And oddly,

1326
00:55:13,271 --> 00:55:15,824
he was actually successful in locating 1 in

1327
00:55:15,824 --> 00:55:16,461
the ur.

1328
00:55:17,512 --> 00:55:20,956
The Cia later verified this remote viewing exercise

1329
00:55:21,172 --> 00:55:21,672
and

1330
00:55:22,445 --> 00:55:23,639
stated on record,

1331
00:55:24,116 --> 00:55:25,548
will these top secret records?

1332
00:55:26,438 --> 00:55:27,732
At the time top secret

1333
00:55:28,344 --> 00:55:30,036
that the information that he collected

1334
00:55:30,806 --> 00:55:31,703
was substantially

1335
00:55:32,236 --> 00:55:32,474
correct.

1336
00:55:34,875 --> 00:55:37,355
These 2 experiments were the first ever remote

1337
00:55:37,355 --> 00:55:39,614
viewing exercise success of a simulated

1338
00:55:40,315 --> 00:55:41,514
operational type scenario.

1339
00:55:41,929 --> 00:55:44,741
And price was invited to participate in further

1340
00:55:45,357 --> 00:55:47,510
experimentation being conducted by the secret program.

1341
00:55:48,546 --> 00:55:50,675
Price would go on to conduct another operational

1342
00:55:50,873 --> 00:55:52,465
scenario in which she remote viewed a base

1343
00:55:52,465 --> 00:55:55,172
in the Ussr, and even made sketches of

1344
00:55:55,251 --> 00:55:55,808
What saw.

1345
00:55:56,445 --> 00:55:58,355
To which later, it took some time, but

1346
00:55:58,355 --> 00:56:02,188
the Cia also admitted or confirmed that the

1347
00:56:02,188 --> 00:56:03,858
sketches that he made were accurate.

1348
00:56:04,414 --> 00:56:06,798
There was later on hand a Cia satellite

1349
00:56:06,798 --> 00:56:08,467
image surface area of the site.

1350
00:56:10,871 --> 00:56:12,147
So this is pretty weird. Right?

1351
00:56:16,135 --> 00:56:18,369
No wonder in, like later times, especially our

1352
00:56:18,369 --> 00:56:19,427
times, there'd be

1353
00:56:20,857 --> 00:56:23,113
like woo Cy ups to try and

1354
00:56:23,571 --> 00:56:24,050
all the stuff.

1355
00:56:25,567 --> 00:56:27,562
And here's a quote from price during the

1356
00:56:27,562 --> 00:56:27,882
experiment.

1357
00:56:29,094 --> 00:56:31,092
I am laying on my back on the

1358
00:56:31,092 --> 00:56:33,489
roof of a 2 or 3 storage brick

1359
00:56:33,489 --> 00:56:33,889
building.

1360
00:56:34,768 --> 00:56:37,085
It's a sunny day, and this sun feels

1361
00:56:37,085 --> 00:56:37,245
good.

1362
00:56:37,978 --> 00:56:39,724
There's this most amazing thing.

1363
00:56:40,439 --> 00:56:42,978
There is a gigantic crane moving back and

1364
00:56:42,978 --> 00:56:44,273
forth over my head

1365
00:56:44,804 --> 00:56:46,233
as I tore out the the air.

1366
00:56:46,885 --> 00:56:47,684
And looked down,

1367
00:56:48,565 --> 00:56:50,485
it seems to be riding on a track

1368
00:56:50,485 --> 00:56:52,085
with 1 rail on each side of the

1369
00:56:52,085 --> 00:56:52,485
building.

1370
00:56:53,204 --> 00:56:54,724
I've never seen anything like that.

1371
00:56:56,418 --> 00:56:56,974
End quote.

1372
00:56:58,565 --> 00:57:00,791
Price would describe more of the facility that

1373
00:57:00,791 --> 00:57:02,778
would later be confirmed as well because it

1374
00:57:02,778 --> 00:57:04,606
was actually what he was looking at was

1375
00:57:04,606 --> 00:57:05,663
an underground

1376
00:57:05,972 --> 00:57:06,290
base.

1377
00:57:06,846 --> 00:57:09,489
It was the secret Soviet atomic bomb laboratory.

1378
00:57:11,053 --> 00:57:12,006
Russell Tar said,

1379
00:57:12,721 --> 00:57:12,958
quote,

1380
00:57:13,689 --> 00:57:16,567
The accuracy of prices is drawing is a

1381
00:57:16,567 --> 00:57:19,065
sort of thing that I as a physicist

1382
00:57:19,124 --> 00:57:21,601
would never have believed if I had not

1383
00:57:21,601 --> 00:57:22,640
seen it for myself.

1384
00:57:23,772 --> 00:57:24,010
Quote.

1385
00:57:27,264 --> 00:57:30,200
The Cia and others were also baffled by

1386
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,549
the results of the experiment,

1387
00:57:32,279 --> 00:57:34,356
all they had was a horrible satellite image

1388
00:57:34,356 --> 00:57:37,093
that showed very little detail. Just

1389
00:57:38,830 --> 00:57:41,550
suggest gin of what the surface facility would

1390
00:57:41,550 --> 00:57:42,028
look like.

1391
00:57:43,539 --> 00:57:45,550
Prices sketches and descriptions

1392
00:57:46,418 --> 00:57:47,713
they were too accurate,

1393
00:57:48,166 --> 00:57:49,120
not to aston.

1394
00:57:50,551 --> 00:57:52,300
Especially years down the line when they were

1395
00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:53,254
fully confirmed.

1396
00:57:56,372 --> 00:57:57,327
On another mission,

1397
00:57:57,963 --> 00:57:59,816
En and his team of researchers

1398
00:58:00,271 --> 00:58:02,181
used remote viewing to spy on Russia from

1399
00:58:02,181 --> 00:58:04,130
their base in Palo alto o California,

1400
00:58:04,829 --> 00:58:07,390
and even discovered a downed Soviet spy plane,

1401
00:58:07,710 --> 00:58:09,630
hidden under the foliage of the jungle in

1402
00:58:09,789 --> 00:58:10,269
Africa,

1403
00:58:10,604 --> 00:58:12,678
after the Department of Defense gave up on

1404
00:58:12,678 --> 00:58:13,556
tracking it down.

1405
00:58:14,911 --> 00:58:16,767
And who knows what experiments

1406
00:58:17,304 --> 00:58:19,777
and operations they did that have yet to

1407
00:58:19,777 --> 00:58:20,469
be released

1408
00:58:21,706 --> 00:58:24,019
That's through all of these experiments they came

1409
00:58:24,019 --> 00:58:24,519
to

1410
00:58:26,172 --> 00:58:27,630
3 different categories

1411
00:58:28,166 --> 00:58:29,203
of remote viewing.

1412
00:58:30,733 --> 00:58:31,052
1.

1413
00:58:32,168 --> 00:58:33,523
Fortunate remote viewing,

1414
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:34,660
Cr.

1415
00:58:35,355 --> 00:58:39,032
The original Sr developed technique in which viewers

1416
00:58:39,032 --> 00:58:41,438
were asked what they saw at specified

1417
00:58:41,811 --> 00:58:42,764
geographical coordinates.

1418
00:58:44,908 --> 00:58:45,146
2,

1419
00:58:46,987 --> 00:58:48,177
extended remote viewing.

1420
00:58:48,891 --> 00:58:49,391
E.

1421
00:58:50,637 --> 00:58:51,375
A hybrid

1422
00:58:51,827 --> 00:58:54,389
relaxation slash medi based method

1423
00:58:54,699 --> 00:58:56,789
which is more transcend vision like

1424
00:58:58,358 --> 00:58:59,074
And 3,

1425
00:59:00,506 --> 00:59:01,541
written remote viewing,

1426
00:59:02,257 --> 00:59:02,757
w.

1427
00:59:03,945 --> 00:59:07,065
A hybrid of bulk channel and automatic writing

1428
00:59:07,065 --> 00:59:08,824
was introduced in 19 88.

1429
00:59:09,385 --> 00:59:10,764
Though, it proved

1430
00:59:11,304 --> 00:59:13,706
controversial and was regarded by some as much

1431
00:59:13,706 --> 00:59:14,421
less reliable.

1432
00:59:16,010 --> 00:59:17,996
And I could go on about a lot

1433
00:59:17,996 --> 00:59:19,983
of these other experiments, but it's just kind

1434
00:59:19,983 --> 00:59:21,213
of boring

1435
00:59:21,588 --> 00:59:22,645
detail that

1436
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:24,634
I'd rather just pick out the most

1437
00:59:25,327 --> 00:59:26,440
interesting things for you.

1438
00:59:28,045 --> 00:59:30,269
But there's all kinds of interesting stories concerning

1439
00:59:30,269 --> 00:59:32,120
the secret history of the Us government's

1440
00:59:32,573 --> 00:59:35,354
investigations into the paranormal, extra sensory perception,

1441
00:59:36,401 --> 00:59:37,853
and, you know, psycho

1442
00:59:38,226 --> 00:59:40,131
threw all that stuff in there, there's like

1443
00:59:40,131 --> 00:59:42,988
a whole rabbit hole to fall too. But

1444
00:59:42,988 --> 00:59:44,202
if I tried to cover

1445
00:59:45,224 --> 00:59:46,969
Like all of them, if this episode would

1446
00:59:46,969 --> 00:59:49,111
have to be many many parts or never

1447
00:59:49,111 --> 00:59:49,349
end.

1448
00:59:50,697 --> 00:59:52,046
The best thing to keep in mind about

1449
00:59:52,046 --> 00:59:54,365
all this stuff is to dismiss whatever the

1450
00:59:54,365 --> 00:59:57,570
mainstream narrative is about the subject because that's

1451
00:59:57,627 --> 00:59:59,139
precisely what they want you to think.

1452
00:59:59,949 --> 01:00:04,166
And intelligence agencies love, weapon pseudo skeptics and

1453
01:00:04,166 --> 01:00:06,952
the media against truth. This is all about

1454
01:00:06,952 --> 01:00:08,557
control And the way that they would think

1455
01:00:08,557 --> 01:00:10,467
about it probably is that it's for our

1456
01:00:10,467 --> 01:00:10,967
own

1457
01:00:11,979 --> 01:00:12,615
well being.

1458
01:00:13,331 --> 01:00:16,059
They're protecting us, which we both know is

1459
01:00:16,927 --> 01:00:17,804
complete bullshit.

1460
01:00:19,875 --> 01:00:21,628
Thanks for staying with me listener. I'm going

1461
01:00:21,628 --> 01:00:22,902
kinda tin hat today.

1462
01:00:23,634 --> 01:00:25,862
Sometimes we gather though. Right? Gotta keep these

1463
01:00:25,862 --> 01:00:26,362
episodes

1464
01:00:26,818 --> 01:00:29,683
spicy. Once in a while. Gotta sat our

1465
01:00:29,683 --> 01:00:31,036
inner conspiracy theorist.

1466
01:00:31,690 --> 01:00:33,369
You know we can both have this guilty

1467
01:00:33,369 --> 01:00:34,969
pleasure once in a while. Not a big

1468
01:00:34,969 --> 01:00:36,889
deal. And I don't think I've mentioned yet.

1469
01:00:37,050 --> 01:00:38,969
1 thing that I heard about In swan

1470
01:00:38,969 --> 01:00:39,469
and

1471
01:00:40,424 --> 01:00:42,742
Maybe it was even yuri Gel. I can't

1472
01:00:42,742 --> 01:00:44,420
remember right off the top of my head.

1473
01:00:45,059 --> 01:00:47,377
But some of these guys were involved in

1474
01:00:47,377 --> 01:00:48,836
this stuff, they were cy.

1475
01:00:49,947 --> 01:00:52,014
And this is back in the early days

1476
01:00:52,014 --> 01:00:52,753
of sci.

1477
01:00:53,923 --> 01:00:54,423
So

1478
01:00:54,957 --> 01:00:56,547
if that changes your opinion on me of

1479
01:00:56,547 --> 01:00:59,026
this stuff, it's I mean, I think it's

1480
01:00:59,026 --> 01:00:59,264
true,

1481
01:00:59,900 --> 01:01:00,796
but it could also

1482
01:01:01,329 --> 01:01:02,543
if you know about sci.

1483
01:01:03,076 --> 01:01:05,299
It can also mean that these guys already

1484
01:01:05,299 --> 01:01:08,438
had some pretty interesting views of the universe.

1485
01:01:09,290 --> 01:01:10,244
If you know what I mean,

1486
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,028
to watch that south park episode that talks

1487
01:01:13,028 --> 01:01:13,687
about Sci.

1488
01:01:15,031 --> 01:01:17,178
But to me, that doesn't discredit them.

1489
01:01:18,450 --> 01:01:20,358
If it does to you, I mean, by

1490
01:01:20,358 --> 01:01:22,505
all means think think it does, but me

1491
01:01:22,505 --> 01:01:23,936
personally doesn't discredit them.

1492
01:01:24,827 --> 01:01:27,059
It is an interesting thing though that you

1493
01:01:27,059 --> 01:01:29,689
don't find in any of the books really.

1494
01:01:30,486 --> 01:01:32,182
It doesn't mention any of their

1495
01:01:32,969 --> 01:01:35,031
interaction with with cy or any of that.

1496
01:01:35,586 --> 01:01:37,807
But Ing swan and the rest would continue

1497
01:01:37,807 --> 01:01:40,028
the research for basically 32 years.

1498
01:01:40,599 --> 01:01:42,515
These programs would have a bunch of different

1499
01:01:42,515 --> 01:01:43,574
names, including

1500
01:01:44,590 --> 01:01:45,090
scan,

1501
01:01:45,708 --> 01:01:47,624
center lane, Gon Wish,

1502
01:01:48,262 --> 01:01:48,901
girl flame.

1503
01:01:49,794 --> 01:01:50,693
Project c,

1504
01:01:51,549 --> 01:01:53,144
Star gate, and Sun streak.

1505
01:01:54,022 --> 01:01:56,256
However, as an umbrella term,

1506
01:01:56,909 --> 01:01:58,686
This is all best remembered as

1507
01:01:59,384 --> 01:01:59,884
project

1508
01:02:00,421 --> 01:02:01,241
Star gate

1509
01:02:01,858 --> 01:02:02,358
or

1510
01:02:03,056 --> 01:02:04,333
the Star gate program.

1511
01:02:06,182 --> 01:02:07,000
And at this

1512
01:02:08,171 --> 01:02:11,195
lineage of branching tree of programs would go

1513
01:02:11,195 --> 01:02:12,945
on all the way up to 19 95.

1514
01:02:13,358 --> 01:02:15,501
With 1 of the more famous versions actually

1515
01:02:15,501 --> 01:02:17,564
having a movie made about it called the

1516
01:02:17,564 --> 01:02:18,992
men who stare at Goats,

1517
01:02:19,786 --> 01:02:21,056
which you've probably heard of.

1518
01:02:22,182 --> 01:02:23,532
Or if you haven't go watch it, it's

1519
01:02:23,532 --> 01:02:23,849
awesome,

1520
01:02:24,405 --> 01:02:26,072
but it's a real deal program and 1

1521
01:02:26,072 --> 01:02:27,818
of the most unique programs.

1522
01:02:28,851 --> 01:02:30,438
Actual name is detachment g.

1523
01:02:31,409 --> 01:02:33,984
This program was unique because it actually shunned

1524
01:02:34,202 --> 01:02:36,597
civilians. It didn't want any civilian psychic in

1525
01:02:36,597 --> 01:02:39,411
their program, so it only actually took people

1526
01:02:39,724 --> 01:02:40,998
from within the military.

1527
01:02:41,715 --> 01:02:43,069
And it turned out that there was actually

1528
01:02:43,069 --> 01:02:44,742
a decent amount of soldiers in the army

1529
01:02:44,742 --> 01:02:47,768
who came forth that they believed themselves to

1530
01:02:47,768 --> 01:02:48,268
be

1531
01:02:49,138 --> 01:02:51,292
to have psychic capabilities in 1 way or

1532
01:02:51,292 --> 01:02:51,611
another.

1533
01:02:53,366 --> 01:02:55,041
On September 19 79,

1534
01:02:56,014 --> 01:02:58,728
the national security council called Pawn Detachment g

1535
01:02:58,728 --> 01:03:01,202
for the remote viewing abilities, giving them a

1536
01:03:01,202 --> 01:03:03,916
mission to investigate a Soviet Navy base with

1537
01:03:03,916 --> 01:03:05,366
their psychic powers.

1538
01:03:06,641 --> 01:03:09,512
This remote viewing investigation was actually a success.

1539
01:03:09,910 --> 01:03:11,845
The results of detachment G's

1540
01:03:12,302 --> 01:03:12,461
investigation.

1541
01:03:13,114 --> 01:03:15,264
Led to the Cia discovering a new type

1542
01:03:15,264 --> 01:03:18,528
of soviet ballistic missile submarine later designated by

1543
01:03:18,687 --> 01:03:20,757
Nato as, the typhoon class.

1544
01:03:21,649 --> 01:03:24,866
The massive of nuclear sub called the Aco

1545
01:03:25,085 --> 01:03:26,123
by the Ussr.

1546
01:03:27,561 --> 01:03:28,461
But it's basically

1547
01:03:29,093 --> 01:03:31,470
attachment g, all this stuff around this area

1548
01:03:31,470 --> 01:03:33,159
at this time that

1549
01:03:33,848 --> 01:03:35,750
the government officially puts a lid on all

1550
01:03:35,750 --> 01:03:38,145
this stuff. And says that we don't do

1551
01:03:38,145 --> 01:03:39,414
psychic research anymore.

1552
01:03:40,049 --> 01:03:42,826
We don't do paranormal research anymore. It all

1553
01:03:42,826 --> 01:03:43,460
ends here.

1554
01:03:45,143 --> 01:03:45,620
However,

1555
01:03:46,655 --> 01:03:47,611
we know that's bullshit.

1556
01:03:48,567 --> 01:03:52,012
They continue doing this research even until this

1557
01:03:52,150 --> 01:03:52,389
day.

1558
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:56,500
The modern Times government research program is called

1559
01:03:56,639 --> 01:03:58,019
the anomalous mental

1560
01:03:58,559 --> 01:03:59,619
cognition program.

1561
01:04:00,494 --> 01:04:02,326
And is ran by the office of Naval

1562
01:04:02,326 --> 01:04:02,565
research.

1563
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,670
This also is most likely just the surface

1564
01:04:05,670 --> 01:04:06,864
program, so you know,

1565
01:04:07,661 --> 01:04:08,559
there are probably

1566
01:04:09,507 --> 01:04:11,415
or I... I'm confident enough to say that

1567
01:04:11,415 --> 01:04:14,619
there are many ongoing top secret programs

1568
01:04:14,993 --> 01:04:16,663
that we just never hear about.

1569
01:04:17,314 --> 01:04:19,304
There was always a public face program to

1570
01:04:19,304 --> 01:04:21,373
cover the real programs like look at project

1571
01:04:21,533 --> 01:04:22,568
Blue book, for example,

1572
01:04:23,284 --> 01:04:24,819
when they accidentally created

1573
01:04:25,448 --> 01:04:29,135
1 of their biggest enemies by hiring on

1574
01:04:30,068 --> 01:04:32,618
a scientist who was a skeptic to debunk

1575
01:04:32,618 --> 01:04:33,972
it all and then he turned into a

1576
01:04:33,972 --> 01:04:36,212
believer because found so much legitimate and evidence.

1577
01:04:37,085 --> 01:04:38,911
Originally project Blue book was just supposed to

1578
01:04:38,911 --> 01:04:41,634
be covered to discredit the Ufo phenomenon

1579
01:04:42,166 --> 01:04:43,039
and tell this guy,

1580
01:04:43,849 --> 01:04:45,436
What is his name? I know him it's

1581
01:04:45,436 --> 01:04:46,389
on the tip of my tongue.

1582
01:04:47,977 --> 01:04:50,041
Pisses is me off. I've read books on

1583
01:04:50,041 --> 01:04:50,517
him too.

1584
01:04:52,043 --> 01:04:52,202
Anyway,

1585
01:04:53,239 --> 01:04:55,791
in any case, the modern day anomalous most

1586
01:04:55,791 --> 01:04:58,661
mental cognition program has a 3900000.0

1587
01:04:58,661 --> 01:05:00,495
dollar funding every year.

1588
01:05:01,230 --> 01:05:03,070
They've even figured out ways to train and

1589
01:05:03,070 --> 01:05:05,869
build anomalous abilities and people that originally didn't

1590
01:05:05,869 --> 01:05:06,510
even have any,

1591
01:05:07,070 --> 01:05:08,269
such as a non invasive,

1592
01:05:08,764 --> 01:05:12,040
electro show and eth based brain computer interface

1593
01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:15,317
that enables direct computer communication for, quote, unquote,

1594
01:05:15,796 --> 01:05:16,115
training.

1595
01:05:17,724 --> 01:05:19,497
So with all the stigma,

1596
01:05:19,952 --> 01:05:22,918
based around psychic research because of pseudo skeptics

1597
01:05:23,054 --> 01:05:23,554
prop,

1598
01:05:24,420 --> 01:05:25,951
the wording has changed

1599
01:05:26,403 --> 01:05:29,442
over the years, but the research continues

1600
01:05:29,973 --> 01:05:32,090
with the underlying goal remaining the same since

1601
01:05:32,209 --> 01:05:34,677
these secret research programs began in the fifties.

1602
01:05:35,711 --> 01:05:37,463
This is the same reason why the wording

1603
01:05:37,463 --> 01:05:39,453
around the Ufo phenomenon is changing.

1604
01:05:40,264 --> 01:05:42,425
Getting to the point it's harder and harder

1605
01:05:42,425 --> 01:05:45,164
to suppress and shame out of existence this

1606
01:05:45,224 --> 01:05:47,304
information like anyone who comes forth talking about

1607
01:05:47,304 --> 01:05:47,464
it.

1608
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:49,960
So the government is adapting.

1609
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,839
They know that they cannot deny these anomalous

1610
01:05:52,839 --> 01:05:54,279
things about existence forever,

1611
01:05:54,760 --> 01:05:56,199
but since they are behind it at the

1612
01:05:56,199 --> 01:05:59,163
campaigns to smear the research and this miss

1613
01:05:59,163 --> 01:06:00,114
paranormal abilities,

1614
01:06:00,668 --> 01:06:02,570
they acknowledge it in a way that they

1615
01:06:02,570 --> 01:06:04,471
can try to keep control over the narrative.

1616
01:06:05,677 --> 01:06:07,108
However, this is kind of an issue for

1617
01:06:07,108 --> 01:06:09,278
them in modern times too because of the

1618
01:06:09,335 --> 01:06:10,449
decentralized way,

1619
01:06:11,085 --> 01:06:12,141
a lot of technology

1620
01:06:12,516 --> 01:06:13,312
moving forward.

1621
01:06:14,044 --> 01:06:14,544
Like

1622
01:06:14,923 --> 01:06:16,222
decentralized media

1623
01:06:16,681 --> 01:06:17,320
is growing.

1624
01:06:18,039 --> 01:06:19,876
They basically have to do overtime to keep

1625
01:06:19,876 --> 01:06:20,675
the status quo.

1626
01:06:21,408 --> 01:06:23,638
And unless they go full tyrant, which they

1627
01:06:23,638 --> 01:06:24,196
always could.

1628
01:06:25,072 --> 01:06:25,572
But

1629
01:06:26,347 --> 01:06:28,258
and tell if they do that, they're just

1630
01:06:28,258 --> 01:06:30,192
having a hard time keeping it

1631
01:06:30,663 --> 01:06:32,416
together and control the narrative.

1632
01:06:33,053 --> 01:06:35,125
But our technology is getting pretty crazy and

1633
01:06:35,125 --> 01:06:37,218
growing ever faster and faster

1634
01:06:37,768 --> 01:06:40,387
So technology may actually be the final stroke

1635
01:06:40,387 --> 01:06:43,902
in making psychic phenomena, no longer anomalous or

1636
01:06:44,116 --> 01:06:45,663
a belief or a

1637
01:06:46,038 --> 01:06:48,846
superstition, but an accepted aspect of our lives

1638
01:06:49,141 --> 01:06:50,175
and very existence.

1639
01:06:52,338 --> 01:06:52,577
Quote,

1640
01:06:53,771 --> 01:06:54,487
In essence,

1641
01:06:55,441 --> 01:06:56,476
you have this idea,

1642
01:06:57,351 --> 01:06:59,578
which really became the core and theme of

1643
01:06:59,578 --> 01:07:00,692
the book phenomena.

1644
01:07:01,503 --> 01:07:01,981
Which is,

1645
01:07:02,936 --> 01:07:05,028
is it fact or is it fantasy?

1646
01:07:05,642 --> 01:07:07,495
Or will advance technology

1647
01:07:08,109 --> 01:07:10,599
this remarkable system of systems of technology

1648
01:07:11,149 --> 01:07:14,592
the government has developed, which includes computer technology,

1649
01:07:15,126 --> 01:07:15,626
biotechnology

1650
01:07:16,479 --> 01:07:17,217
and nano

1651
01:07:18,149 --> 01:07:20,574
with this rubric of advanced technology

1652
01:07:20,954 --> 01:07:23,054
allow us to solve this age old mystery.

1653
01:07:24,315 --> 01:07:25,114
Whether or not,

1654
01:07:25,675 --> 01:07:27,054
extra sensory perception

1655
01:07:27,514 --> 01:07:28,655
exists biologically.

1656
01:07:31,519 --> 01:07:31,758
Quote,

1657
01:07:32,554 --> 01:07:32,952
phenomena.

1658
01:07:34,543 --> 01:07:36,612
Oh, and I'm gonna leave a definitely leave

1659
01:07:36,612 --> 01:07:38,703
a link the source of

1660
01:07:39,174 --> 01:07:40,692
A lot of the stuff I've gone over.

1661
01:07:41,331 --> 01:07:41,831
Phenomena

1662
01:07:42,370 --> 01:07:44,288
was my main source of research for this

1663
01:07:44,288 --> 01:07:45,487
episode, but I already knew a lot and

1664
01:07:45,487 --> 01:07:46,445
I already had books on it.

1665
01:07:47,179 --> 01:07:49,327
But definitely check out that book. It's great.

1666
01:07:50,440 --> 01:07:52,668
And lucky for you, this is gonna be

1667
01:07:52,668 --> 01:07:55,055
an extended episode because there was just so

1668
01:07:55,055 --> 01:07:55,873
much I

1669
01:07:56,184 --> 01:07:58,009
I to talk about and then I kinda

1670
01:07:58,009 --> 01:08:00,628
got off subject a couple times or laughed

1671
01:08:00,628 --> 01:08:01,763
a little bit too long

1672
01:08:02,136 --> 01:08:04,776
that we're just gonna have an extra long

1673
01:08:04,776 --> 01:08:07,589
episode and talk about more awesome stuff. And

1674
01:08:07,887 --> 01:08:09,562
I have to go get my voice a

1675
01:08:09,562 --> 01:08:11,237
little bit of a break and have some

1676
01:08:11,237 --> 01:08:11,715
coffee.

1677
01:08:12,194 --> 01:08:13,492
Otherwise, I'm just gonna be like

1678
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,073
So when we come back, we're gonna get

1679
01:08:17,073 --> 01:08:19,305
into the Mon Monroe Institute and how the

1680
01:08:19,465 --> 01:08:22,909
Cia specifically mentions the Mon Monroe Institute, and

1681
01:08:22,909 --> 01:08:25,810
some of their d documents concerning astra

1682
01:08:26,110 --> 01:08:26,350
projection,

1683
01:08:27,149 --> 01:08:29,390
remote viewing, and other psych phenomena.

1684
01:08:30,122 --> 01:08:32,587
Don't go anywhere, you're listening to cryptic chronicles.

1685
01:09:57,136 --> 01:09:59,118
So, yeah, moving past all of that,

1686
01:09:59,847 --> 01:10:02,069
1 of the most interesting things in this

1687
01:10:02,069 --> 01:10:02,569
whole

1688
01:10:03,577 --> 01:10:05,402
Cia doing secret stuff,

1689
01:10:06,274 --> 01:10:08,434
kind of a catalog is the is a

1690
01:10:08,434 --> 01:10:08,934
d

1691
01:10:09,314 --> 01:10:12,590
Cia document that specifically talks about the Mon

1692
01:10:12,670 --> 01:10:13,469
Rowan Institute.

1693
01:10:14,507 --> 01:10:15,866
It talks about how a lot of the

1694
01:10:15,866 --> 01:10:18,595
techniques that they used or directly requisition from

1695
01:10:18,595 --> 01:10:19,634
the Mon monroe Institute.

1696
01:10:20,431 --> 01:10:22,608
They invented something called hemisphere

1697
01:10:23,145 --> 01:10:25,953
synchronization, or just hem sync for short. Which

1698
01:10:25,953 --> 01:10:27,471
turned out to be a powerful tool in

1699
01:10:27,471 --> 01:10:29,549
developing these alleged psychic abilities.

1700
01:10:30,907 --> 01:10:31,945
And as a side note,

1701
01:10:32,679 --> 01:10:35,230
I personally did the Mon monroe Institute gateway

1702
01:10:35,230 --> 01:10:36,666
experience and a lot of their other stuff

1703
01:10:36,666 --> 01:10:38,420
for a decent amount of time and still

1704
01:10:38,420 --> 01:10:40,413
do it here and there, like not as

1705
01:10:40,413 --> 01:10:41,211
consistent, but, yeah.

1706
01:10:41,863 --> 01:10:43,533
And found a lot of the techniques that

1707
01:10:43,692 --> 01:10:46,555
I developed extremely useful for my meditation practice,

1708
01:10:47,192 --> 01:10:49,339
dream recall, and even lucid dreaming.

1709
01:10:50,229 --> 01:10:51,609
So I can definitely personally

1710
01:10:52,229 --> 01:10:54,469
verify that there is something special about the

1711
01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:55,350
Mon monroe Institute.

1712
01:10:56,310 --> 01:10:58,662
The only reason why I'm as good at

1713
01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:00,729
meditation as I am after all these years

1714
01:11:01,104 --> 01:11:03,887
it's because of this hem sink and, you

1715
01:11:03,887 --> 01:11:05,637
know, Bob Roast does.

1716
01:11:06,527 --> 01:11:08,753
And I'm someone with Adhd, so this was

1717
01:11:08,753 --> 01:11:09,707
very hard for me.

1718
01:11:10,422 --> 01:11:12,331
Anyone who says that they can't meditate because

1719
01:11:12,331 --> 01:11:14,659
they have Adhd or some other kind of

1720
01:11:14,716 --> 01:11:15,511
neuro divergence,

1721
01:11:16,563 --> 01:11:17,121
you can.

1722
01:11:17,998 --> 01:11:19,673
I'm a perfect example. If I can do

1723
01:11:19,673 --> 01:11:21,847
it, you can do it. It just takes

1724
01:11:22,703 --> 01:11:23,581
a certain approach.

1725
01:11:24,618 --> 01:11:25,357
That isn't

1726
01:11:26,069 --> 01:11:27,989
typical to everybody else who does this kind

1727
01:11:27,989 --> 01:11:28,389
of stuff.

1728
01:11:29,349 --> 01:11:31,829
But it really helped me develop my ability

1729
01:11:31,829 --> 01:11:34,161
to meditate and do all this more spiritual

1730
01:11:34,161 --> 01:11:36,232
pen of stuff, which I greatly appreciate.

1731
01:11:37,029 --> 01:11:40,216
Not to mention the weird, super crazy trippy

1732
01:11:40,216 --> 01:11:42,128
stuff, you can experience once you learn how

1733
01:11:42,128 --> 01:11:43,917
to put yourself into sleep paralysis

1734
01:11:44,291 --> 01:11:45,403
while still being awake.

1735
01:11:46,832 --> 01:11:47,706
Yeah, That's fun.

1736
01:11:49,215 --> 01:11:51,145
Hem is really interesting

1737
01:11:51,677 --> 01:11:53,385
it might also be calls

1738
01:11:54,002 --> 01:11:54,960
by normal beats,

1739
01:11:55,518 --> 01:11:56,716
which if you're going to look for it,

1740
01:11:56,795 --> 01:11:58,551
and you don't wanna spend a fortune Mu

1741
01:11:58,551 --> 01:12:00,466
monroe Institute stuff. You can always just get

1742
01:12:00,466 --> 01:12:03,037
by nor beats. Same thing. All you needed

1743
01:12:03,037 --> 01:12:03,936
is some decent

1744
01:12:04,795 --> 01:12:06,233
stereo headphones and you're good to go.

1745
01:12:07,511 --> 01:12:07,671
Anyway,

1746
01:12:08,881 --> 01:12:10,176
What's this does

1747
01:12:10,867 --> 01:12:12,774
is sync up both hemisphere of the brain

1748
01:12:12,774 --> 01:12:13,909
into a single frequency.

1749
01:12:15,077 --> 01:12:16,269
Say, for example,

1750
01:12:17,158 --> 01:12:18,991
during the day, when you are just going

1751
01:12:18,991 --> 01:12:20,904
about your business and are doing your thing,

1752
01:12:21,860 --> 01:12:24,012
you're in beta frequency within your brain.

1753
01:12:25,143 --> 01:12:25,621
Right now,

1754
01:12:26,258 --> 01:12:27,055
listening to this,

1755
01:12:27,771 --> 01:12:30,502
you're most likely in beta, unless you are

1756
01:12:31,118 --> 01:12:32,881
listening to this while going to sleep or

1757
01:12:32,881 --> 01:12:35,184
something or doing a task that you really

1758
01:12:35,184 --> 01:12:37,033
enjoy, so you're kinda in the flow

1759
01:12:37,486 --> 01:12:39,336
because there's also other frequencies

1760
01:12:39,883 --> 01:12:41,949
The alpha frequencies is 1 of the ones

1761
01:12:41,949 --> 01:12:44,255
that you're most likely in a lot as

1762
01:12:44,255 --> 01:12:44,493
well,

1763
01:12:45,130 --> 01:12:46,878
but there's also delta and data.

1764
01:12:47,688 --> 01:12:49,434
And you can even kind of even have,

1765
01:12:49,512 --> 01:12:51,497
like, overlap here and there for unique results.

1766
01:12:51,814 --> 01:12:54,750
You can inspire all kinds of weird reactions

1767
01:12:54,750 --> 01:12:55,463
from your brain.

1768
01:12:56,113 --> 01:12:58,015
Depending on what frequency you're using.

1769
01:12:59,283 --> 01:13:01,027
Let's say you wanna sync up your brain

1770
01:13:01,027 --> 01:13:02,929
into a frequency that's good for meditation.

1771
01:13:03,977 --> 01:13:04,216
Well,

1772
01:13:04,933 --> 01:13:07,164
pop in some alpha waves, and you're good

1773
01:13:07,164 --> 01:13:07,483
to go.

1774
01:13:08,917 --> 01:13:11,005
And over time this will actually even frame

1775
01:13:11,005 --> 01:13:12,685
your brain to get into these states more

1776
01:13:12,685 --> 01:13:13,564
and more easily.

1777
01:13:14,445 --> 01:13:16,524
And eventually, your brain, I mean, if your

1778
01:13:16,524 --> 01:13:18,765
system had it. Eventually, your brain will be

1779
01:13:18,765 --> 01:13:21,270
so trained at this you only even need

1780
01:13:21,484 --> 01:13:23,386
hem sink or binary narrow beats anymore to

1781
01:13:23,386 --> 01:13:24,179
get into these states.

1782
01:13:25,210 --> 01:13:26,740
But that takes a lot of time and

1783
01:13:26,875 --> 01:13:27,033
dedication.

1784
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,595
But it is possible just saying,

1785
01:13:30,551 --> 01:13:32,939
and I actually have made by nora beats

1786
01:13:32,939 --> 01:13:34,372
myself if you wanna go listen to some

1787
01:13:34,372 --> 01:13:35,726
of my guided meditations.

1788
01:13:36,775 --> 01:13:39,000
Go through a dollar at Patreon or subscribe

1789
01:13:39,000 --> 01:13:41,939
star because they are exclusive to supporters, let

1790
01:13:41,939 --> 01:13:43,448
you can if you want to listen to

1791
01:13:43,448 --> 01:13:45,513
some of my bi beats and guided meditations.

1792
01:13:46,324 --> 01:13:47,603
By narrow and hem,

1793
01:13:48,162 --> 01:13:48,662
legit

1794
01:13:49,121 --> 01:13:51,759
actually work and can be very profound to

1795
01:13:51,759 --> 01:13:53,996
people who are interested in spiritual growth.

1796
01:13:55,689 --> 01:13:56,404
But back the point.

1797
01:13:57,515 --> 01:13:58,946
Let me just hustle at you real quick.

1798
01:13:59,105 --> 01:13:59,343
Right?

1799
01:14:00,297 --> 01:14:01,727
Even money. I need it.

1800
01:14:03,237 --> 01:14:03,634
But,

1801
01:14:04,997 --> 01:14:07,004
The Cia d classified document

1802
01:14:07,376 --> 01:14:09,438
says that Hem sink greatly aids and remote

1803
01:14:09,438 --> 01:14:11,285
viewing and that of body experiences.

1804
01:14:13,021 --> 01:14:14,292
I'm not going to claim to be able

1805
01:14:14,292 --> 01:14:16,515
to do either. Even though I said I've

1806
01:14:16,515 --> 01:14:18,578
spent years doing hem sink. So I don't

1807
01:14:18,578 --> 01:14:19,372
even think about it.

1808
01:14:20,425 --> 01:14:22,284
I'm not cut blow your mind with any

1809
01:14:22,505 --> 01:14:23,564
personal experiences.

1810
01:14:24,824 --> 01:14:26,125
But according to the Cia,

1811
01:14:26,985 --> 01:14:28,445
this stuff is legit

1812
01:14:28,759 --> 01:14:30,273
and that alone should be more than enough

1813
01:14:30,273 --> 01:14:31,708
to raise an eyebrow dear listener.

1814
01:14:32,904 --> 01:14:34,817
The founder of the Mon monroe Institute was

1815
01:14:34,817 --> 01:14:37,220
a man named to Robert Mon monroe. He

1816
01:14:37,220 --> 01:14:39,602
began his experiments that would lead to the

1817
01:14:39,602 --> 01:14:41,984
creation of hem sink after having some pretty

1818
01:14:41,984 --> 01:14:44,684
trippy experiences of leaving his body and be

1819
01:14:44,684 --> 01:14:45,479
consciously aware.

1820
01:14:46,529 --> 01:14:49,243
Bob wanted to investigate this phenomenon further, but

1821
01:14:49,243 --> 01:14:51,478
he wanted to be scientific about it because

1822
01:14:51,478 --> 01:14:52,617
early on in his

1823
01:14:53,154 --> 01:14:55,150
research into this kind of stuff. He noticed

1824
01:14:55,150 --> 01:14:56,542
that it had

1825
01:14:58,983 --> 01:15:00,198
could be what he

1826
01:15:01,128 --> 01:15:04,069
what he experienced like was associated with the

1827
01:15:04,069 --> 01:15:04,307
occult.

1828
01:15:05,039 --> 01:15:06,399
Or new Age stuff,

1829
01:15:08,079 --> 01:15:10,079
meta physics, all that kind of stuff. He

1830
01:15:10,079 --> 01:15:12,319
wanted to be scientific and at least be

1831
01:15:12,319 --> 01:15:13,599
taken like somewhat seriously.

1832
01:15:14,014 --> 01:15:15,845
So he decided to push away from all

1833
01:15:15,845 --> 01:15:18,472
of those terms that the occult uses like

1834
01:15:18,472 --> 01:15:21,100
astra projection and all that. He wanted to

1835
01:15:21,100 --> 01:15:22,055
distance himself from it.

1836
01:15:22,947 --> 01:15:24,856
So when he began his institute, he called

1837
01:15:24,856 --> 01:15:26,390
it Ob b.

1838
01:15:27,482 --> 01:15:29,016
The out of body experience.

1839
01:15:30,125 --> 01:15:31,962
A term that the Mon route institute still

1840
01:15:31,962 --> 01:15:33,501
uses today. And

1841
01:15:34,119 --> 01:15:36,357
if this kind of phenomenon is mentioned in

1842
01:15:36,357 --> 01:15:36,857
mainstream.

1843
01:15:38,529 --> 01:15:40,595
Even just maybe as a mental disorder or

1844
01:15:40,595 --> 01:15:43,061
anything like that, it's gonna be referred to

1845
01:15:43,061 --> 01:15:44,197
usually as Ob.

1846
01:15:45,287 --> 01:15:47,991
Robert Mon monroe documented his experienced as thoroughly.

1847
01:15:48,404 --> 01:15:50,627
And even wrote many books such as journeys

1848
01:15:50,627 --> 01:15:53,247
out of the body, barred journeys, an ultimate

1849
01:15:53,247 --> 01:15:53,565
journey.

1850
01:15:54,201 --> 01:15:55,630
When I first read these books they really

1851
01:15:55,630 --> 01:15:58,346
strip me out, but overall, kind of broaden

1852
01:15:58,346 --> 01:15:59,700
my horizons, I guess,

1853
01:16:01,453 --> 01:16:02,430
concerning possibilities

1854
01:16:03,125 --> 01:16:05,594
hidden behind the mysteries of existence.

1855
01:16:06,804 --> 01:16:08,719
1 thing, Bob Mu monroe did not cover

1856
01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:11,114
as well. He should have was the dark

1857
01:16:11,114 --> 01:16:11,992
side of all this stuff,

1858
01:16:12,710 --> 01:16:14,306
but he probably did that for good reason.

1859
01:16:15,198 --> 01:16:16,943
When you're traveling at the speed of thoughts,

1860
01:16:17,101 --> 01:16:19,402
if you think if your thoughts go dark

1861
01:16:19,402 --> 01:16:19,640
side,

1862
01:16:20,433 --> 01:16:21,544
guess what you're gonna attract.

1863
01:16:22,195 --> 01:16:24,675
So if you're scared in the background is

1864
01:16:24,675 --> 01:16:27,235
that something Scary might happen, the background of

1865
01:16:27,235 --> 01:16:29,315
your mind, and you kind fall into that

1866
01:16:29,315 --> 01:16:30,914
worrying about it, thinking about it while trying

1867
01:16:30,914 --> 01:16:33,803
to experience it Guess what? Bad stuff is

1868
01:16:33,803 --> 01:16:34,362
gonna happen.

1869
01:16:35,318 --> 01:16:37,470
When you're doing this work, a lot of

1870
01:16:37,470 --> 01:16:40,203
times you attract things with how your own

1871
01:16:40,341 --> 01:16:42,109
vibration is And I know that's a woo

1872
01:16:42,109 --> 01:16:44,819
term, but just consider it like overall how

1873
01:16:44,819 --> 01:16:47,130
you're... What you're thinking about how you feel

1874
01:16:47,130 --> 01:16:49,520
are you afraid? Are you worried? You're gonna

1875
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:50,657
track stuff that

1876
01:16:51,128 --> 01:16:52,963
is it is attracted to that?

1877
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:54,877
Like attracts like.

1878
01:16:55,835 --> 01:16:57,988
I mean, Robert Mon Rowe was teaching people

1879
01:16:57,988 --> 01:17:00,482
how to put themselves in into sleep paralysis

1880
01:17:00,953 --> 01:17:01,749
on purpose,

1881
01:17:02,386 --> 01:17:03,977
and I'm sure we all know just how

1882
01:17:03,977 --> 01:17:05,909
horrifying that can be concerning

1883
01:17:06,682 --> 01:17:08,250
hallucinations and whatnot, even if you have an

1884
01:17:08,448 --> 01:17:10,437
experienced it yourself, If you've listened to the

1885
01:17:10,437 --> 01:17:12,186
show for a long period of time, you

1886
01:17:12,186 --> 01:17:13,459
know exactly what I'm talking about.

1887
01:17:14,970 --> 01:17:16,481
You know, or if you believe that they

1888
01:17:16,481 --> 01:17:18,957
are at like legitimate paranormal entities. I'm not

1889
01:17:18,957 --> 01:17:20,466
really trying to put labels on it, but

1890
01:17:20,466 --> 01:17:23,402
let's just say it's objectively factual that things

1891
01:17:23,402 --> 01:17:25,148
can get pretty freaky key.

1892
01:17:26,359 --> 01:17:28,595
The first time that I went super deep

1893
01:17:28,595 --> 01:17:30,694
into the stuff and had some legitimate

1894
01:17:31,233 --> 01:17:31,472
success.

1895
01:17:32,591 --> 01:17:34,005
I was not

1896
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:38,340
ready for the vibration period that many experience

1897
01:17:38,340 --> 01:17:39,396
when going from Hip.

1898
01:17:40,328 --> 01:17:40,988
Into the

1899
01:17:41,299 --> 01:17:43,771
to the body literally falling asleep as the

1900
01:17:43,771 --> 01:17:44,569
mind is awake.

1901
01:17:45,685 --> 01:17:47,281
I'll never forget how much it freaked me

1902
01:17:47,281 --> 01:17:48,498
out. It was super

1903
01:17:49,354 --> 01:17:51,521
bizarre. Like, you... I can't really explain how

1904
01:17:51,521 --> 01:17:53,429
weird it is you have to experience, like

1905
01:17:53,429 --> 01:17:55,019
with my whole body feeling like the very

1906
01:17:55,019 --> 01:17:58,779
molecules in my skin bones and organs role

1907
01:17:58,993 --> 01:18:00,186
shaking uncontrollably.

1908
01:18:01,075 --> 01:18:03,141
But that experience is actually not that bad,

1909
01:18:03,300 --> 01:18:05,445
how things concerned, and most people will go

1910
01:18:05,445 --> 01:18:06,581
through it. So

1911
01:18:08,005 --> 01:18:08,324
but if...

1912
01:18:09,364 --> 01:18:10,965
I mean, I wasn't ready for it. I'm

1913
01:18:10,965 --> 01:18:12,404
not a pants seat. Who's just freaked me

1914
01:18:12,404 --> 01:18:14,885
out like, with it... I I can't explain

1915
01:18:14,885 --> 01:18:17,380
it. But you know, for people who have

1916
01:18:17,380 --> 01:18:20,579
experienced slick, sleep paralysis and seen freaky stuff,

1917
01:18:21,060 --> 01:18:23,220
the hallucinations or encounters,

1918
01:18:23,539 --> 01:18:24,739
whatever you wanna call them.

1919
01:18:25,635 --> 01:18:27,654
Get pretty terrifying during sleep paralysis

1920
01:18:28,515 --> 01:18:30,034
and keep in mind with Mon monroe Institute.

1921
01:18:30,194 --> 01:18:32,135
You're doing this stuff yourself on purpose.

1922
01:18:33,488 --> 01:18:35,556
There's a whole catalog to do this. My

1923
01:18:35,556 --> 01:18:38,341
god, the gateway experience is just the beginning.

1924
01:18:38,500 --> 01:18:39,534
It's the training wheels.

1925
01:18:40,329 --> 01:18:42,494
Achieving focus tennis is just the start. You

1926
01:18:42,494 --> 01:18:45,051
can go way deeper and have all kinds

1927
01:18:45,051 --> 01:18:46,190
of crazy experiences.

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01:18:46,810 --> 01:18:48,967
So I can personally verify to you that

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01:18:48,967 --> 01:18:51,364
the Mon monroe Institute stuff does indeed work.

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01:18:51,939 --> 01:18:53,774
If you have the discipline and the courage

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01:18:53,774 --> 01:18:55,770
to follow through with it, that gets not

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01:18:55,770 --> 01:18:57,946
easy, takes a lot of practice

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01:18:58,882 --> 01:18:59,441
and courage.

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01:19:00,574 --> 01:19:02,672
Because stuff is gonna get weird, guaranteed.

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01:19:04,490 --> 01:19:06,648
I'm sure we're all familiar with the old

1936
01:19:06,648 --> 01:19:09,945
h syndrome and shadow people and other

1937
01:19:10,578 --> 01:19:12,577
scary tales that have occurred to people while

1938
01:19:12,577 --> 01:19:14,275
they're trapped within sleep paralysis,

1939
01:19:14,974 --> 01:19:17,451
use your imagination. It's anything you could think

1940
01:19:17,451 --> 01:19:21,121
of. But Robert Mon Monroe actually specifically leaves

1941
01:19:21,121 --> 01:19:23,736
out the scary side of everything, in an

1942
01:19:23,736 --> 01:19:25,637
attempt to protect the person who's getting into

1943
01:19:25,637 --> 01:19:25,716
this.

1944
01:19:26,449 --> 01:19:27,887
Which does make sense to a agree.

1945
01:19:28,527 --> 01:19:30,126
But at the same time it doesn't give

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01:19:30,126 --> 01:19:32,283
the individuals the ability to build up their

1947
01:19:32,283 --> 01:19:33,002
own resilience,

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01:19:34,042 --> 01:19:35,261
specifically for 1

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01:19:37,636 --> 01:19:38,746
challenged to overcome,

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01:19:39,777 --> 01:19:41,600
known as the guardian of the threshold.

1951
01:19:44,318 --> 01:19:46,875
But not everybody meets the guardian of the

1952
01:19:46,875 --> 01:19:48,872
threshold. It's actually only people who are not

1953
01:19:48,872 --> 01:19:50,470
ready to be doing what they're doing.

1954
01:19:51,204 --> 01:19:53,921
This actually a specific thing that in the

1955
01:19:54,081 --> 01:19:56,078
Ob astra projection world.

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01:19:56,877 --> 01:19:58,475
If you believe this lower that is,

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01:19:59,207 --> 01:20:01,350
not trying to give you absolute just giving

1958
01:20:01,350 --> 01:20:03,333
you information I'll let you decide for yourself,

1959
01:20:04,364 --> 01:20:06,508
But there's a specific thing called the guardian

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01:20:06,508 --> 01:20:07,221
of the threshold.

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01:20:08,113 --> 01:20:08,613
Or

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01:20:08,991 --> 01:20:10,349
the lurk at the threshold.

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01:20:11,466 --> 01:20:13,222
You'll also cut find the same kind of

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01:20:13,222 --> 01:20:14,978
thing as 1 of the outer gods in

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01:20:14,978 --> 01:20:15,936
the ka cthulhu mythos those.

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01:20:16,908 --> 01:20:18,498
No connection though. I don't think.

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01:20:20,247 --> 01:20:22,950
Now, the guardian of the threshold is mentioned

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01:20:22,950 --> 01:20:25,256
in cult orders of the past like their

1969
01:20:25,256 --> 01:20:26,154
lower their

1970
01:20:26,864 --> 01:20:29,042
curriculum, their rituals or practices,

1971
01:20:29,580 --> 01:20:32,217
but it's mostly just referred to in, like,

1972
01:20:32,696 --> 01:20:33,256
enigmatic ways.

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01:20:33,987 --> 01:20:35,894
Concerning Ob. I don't really think that they

1974
01:20:35,894 --> 01:20:37,880
are the same thing in the idea of

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01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:39,865
what they're about, but it... They are kind

1976
01:20:39,865 --> 01:20:41,296
of the same thing at the same time.

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01:20:42,503 --> 01:20:44,096
Because you have to overcome the lurk of

1978
01:20:44,096 --> 01:20:46,726
the threshold, the guardian of the threshold before

1979
01:20:46,726 --> 01:20:49,674
you're allowed past certain levels of initiation and

1980
01:20:49,674 --> 01:20:51,927
into knowledge and whatnot or to

1981
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:54,800
Higher spiritual abilities.

1982
01:20:56,159 --> 01:20:58,000
Bill regret the threshold has 3 ways it

1983
01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:58,640
can be looked at?

1984
01:20:59,295 --> 01:21:01,934
And translated into one's personal reality tunnel.

1985
01:21:02,814 --> 01:21:04,974
The first way is that the lurk is

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01:21:04,974 --> 01:21:06,354
a legit autonomous

1987
01:21:07,149 --> 01:21:07,649
supernatural

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01:21:08,104 --> 01:21:08,343
entity.

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01:21:09,856 --> 01:21:12,244
The second way is that the lurk at

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01:21:12,244 --> 01:21:14,235
this threshold is actually your subconscious.

1991
01:21:15,604 --> 01:21:17,278
And the third is that the lurk at

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01:21:17,278 --> 01:21:19,132
the threshold is some kind of

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01:21:19,828 --> 01:21:21,125
ancestor protector

1994
01:21:21,581 --> 01:21:22,856
or higher self.

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01:21:23,590 --> 01:21:24,789
Or guardian angel.

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01:21:25,590 --> 01:21:28,470
Anything analogous to that kind of general idea

1997
01:21:28,470 --> 01:21:30,390
is what they could be Anything along those

1998
01:21:30,390 --> 01:21:31,909
lines. I'm sure you know what I mean.

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01:21:32,645 --> 01:21:34,324
And it's important to note that the guardian

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01:21:34,324 --> 01:21:36,725
of the threshold is not an enemy or

2001
01:21:36,725 --> 01:21:39,125
malicious or bad or evil or anything like

2002
01:21:39,125 --> 01:21:41,456
that. What it does is it does not

2003
01:21:41,456 --> 01:21:42,911
allow people out of their body

2004
01:21:43,366 --> 01:21:43,866
or

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01:21:44,322 --> 01:21:46,015
into entire forms of

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01:21:47,107 --> 01:21:47,607
consciousness

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01:21:48,539 --> 01:21:49,813
beyond the mundane really.

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01:21:50,864 --> 01:21:51,904
Unless somebody is ready.

2009
01:21:54,225 --> 01:21:55,904
And if you are trying to do all

2010
01:21:55,904 --> 01:21:58,064
this stuff, the lurk at the threshold will

2011
01:21:58,064 --> 01:21:58,545
test you.

2012
01:21:59,757 --> 01:22:01,192
In these ways that it does test can

2013
01:22:01,192 --> 01:22:03,183
be pretty frightening. You have to prove to

2014
01:22:03,183 --> 01:22:03,843
the lurk

2015
01:22:04,299 --> 01:22:05,015
that you're ready.

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01:22:06,291 --> 01:22:07,645
Some people do not even meet the lurk

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01:22:07,645 --> 01:22:08,680
at the threshold at all, though.

2018
01:22:09,334 --> 01:22:10,052
Keep that in mind.

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01:22:10,691 --> 01:22:12,686
Because allegedly it only manifests to people who

2020
01:22:12,686 --> 01:22:15,161
are not ready for Ob and esoteric journeys

2021
01:22:15,161 --> 01:22:16,518
out of body and stuff like that.

2022
01:22:18,049 --> 01:22:20,758
And how the lurk interacts with you is

2023
01:22:20,758 --> 01:22:22,033
also wholly unique.

2024
01:22:23,627 --> 01:22:24,184
For example,

2025
01:22:24,901 --> 01:22:26,814
let's say someone is practicing should do an

2026
01:22:26,893 --> 01:22:27,393
Ob

2027
01:22:27,864 --> 01:22:29,143
and it's getting closer whatever.

2028
01:22:30,261 --> 01:22:31,620
The lurk group could take on the form

2029
01:22:31,620 --> 01:22:33,938
like a classical h like the old h

2030
01:22:33,938 --> 01:22:35,456
syndrome during sleep paralysis.

2031
01:22:36,429 --> 01:22:37,946
It could take the form of a shadow

2032
01:22:37,946 --> 01:22:38,446
person

2033
01:22:39,143 --> 01:22:41,618
or just inc coherent whispers next your ear.

2034
01:22:42,656 --> 01:22:44,572
A knock on the door with someone asking

2035
01:22:44,572 --> 01:22:45,131
to be let in.

2036
01:22:46,658 --> 01:22:48,088
It could also be a simple flash or

2037
01:22:48,088 --> 01:22:50,235
a noise of some sort. Basically anything just

2038
01:22:50,235 --> 01:22:51,824
to knock you out of what you're doing.

2039
01:22:53,096 --> 01:22:54,551
It could be the feeling of somebody

2040
01:22:55,417 --> 01:22:56,923
entering the room, watching you.

2041
01:22:57,556 --> 01:22:59,301
You know, like a malicious entity at the

2042
01:22:59,301 --> 01:23:00,966
foot of the bed or from the doorway,

2043
01:23:01,442 --> 01:23:02,234
getting closer.

2044
01:23:02,965 --> 01:23:04,725
It could be 2 people having a conversation

2045
01:23:04,725 --> 01:23:06,485
in the room about you. It could be

2046
01:23:06,485 --> 01:23:07,704
literally anything.

2047
01:23:08,965 --> 01:23:10,805
Creepy whispers is another common 1.

2048
01:23:12,016 --> 01:23:13,609
But the whole point of the lurk at

2049
01:23:13,609 --> 01:23:16,498
the threshold. It's not really to

2050
01:23:16,953 --> 01:23:19,661
terrify you. It's actually to protect you.

2051
01:23:20,553 --> 01:23:22,467
It's not trying to hurt you or anything

2052
01:23:22,467 --> 01:23:24,462
like that. It just doesn't want to let

2053
01:23:24,462 --> 01:23:25,201
you out

2054
01:23:25,578 --> 01:23:27,253
until you are ready and prepared for what's

2055
01:23:27,253 --> 01:23:29,667
out there during a the conscious Ob.

2056
01:23:30,457 --> 01:23:32,444
And if you read Robert Mom Rose books,

2057
01:23:32,682 --> 01:23:34,670
you know exactly what I mean. Because there's

2058
01:23:34,670 --> 01:23:35,862
a lot of stuff out there that is

2059
01:23:35,862 --> 01:23:36,497
pretty freaky.

2060
01:23:37,134 --> 01:23:38,984
Who you're in the more subtle

2061
01:23:39,613 --> 01:23:39,931
realm.

2062
01:23:41,364 --> 01:23:44,310
The Lurk at the thresholds duty is to

2063
01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:46,699
challenge the individual until they prove that they're

2064
01:23:46,699 --> 01:23:47,097
are ready.

2065
01:23:47,829 --> 01:23:50,543
It is actually protecting the person despite how

2066
01:23:50,543 --> 01:23:52,240
freaky it is. So,

2067
01:23:52,779 --> 01:23:54,934
you know, it's like you're subconscious protecting you

2068
01:23:54,934 --> 01:23:56,371
from the Mundane perspective.

2069
01:23:57,263 --> 01:23:59,177
So Like, no. You are not ready for

2070
01:23:59,177 --> 01:24:01,251
that. Here's a freaky h lady on your

2071
01:24:01,251 --> 01:24:04,281
chest. Oh, And she's choking you. Good luck.

2072
01:24:06,605 --> 01:24:08,671
And the way to prove yourself to the

2073
01:24:08,671 --> 01:24:11,371
lurk at the threshold is to overcome your

2074
01:24:11,371 --> 01:24:12,586
fear or

2075
01:24:13,356 --> 01:24:13,856
distraction

2076
01:24:14,484 --> 01:24:16,240
or whatever it is that it grows at

2077
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:16,480
you.

2078
01:24:17,518 --> 01:24:19,593
When you win is when you are unaffected

2079
01:24:19,593 --> 01:24:20,152
by whatever,

2080
01:24:20,631 --> 01:24:22,306
whatever happens to screw with you.

2081
01:24:23,119 --> 01:24:25,033
It will actually keep this up during one's

2082
01:24:25,033 --> 01:24:27,586
attempts to consciously Ob until 1 no longer

2083
01:24:27,586 --> 01:24:29,521
shows any fear or is

2084
01:24:30,138 --> 01:24:31,994
unaffected by any of the lurk

2085
01:24:32,531 --> 01:24:32,770
manifestations.

2086
01:24:33,581 --> 01:24:35,646
It can be a pretty harrowing experience,

2087
01:24:36,044 --> 01:24:37,554
which is why so many people give up

2088
01:24:37,554 --> 01:24:39,779
when something scary happens, and they no longer

2089
01:24:39,779 --> 01:24:42,257
practice their Mon monroe Institute stuff or their

2090
01:24:42,337 --> 01:24:45,589
Ob techniques or astra projection aspirations. They just

2091
01:24:45,589 --> 01:24:46,858
put it all the way. They're like, nope.

2092
01:24:49,175 --> 01:24:50,773
Which I guess is kind of the the

2093
01:24:50,773 --> 01:24:51,971
point in the first place.

2094
01:24:52,850 --> 01:24:55,188
The lurk doing its job success

2095
01:24:55,646 --> 01:24:56,845
because Personally obviously,

2096
01:24:57,498 --> 01:25:00,443
not really geared towards that experience or ready

2097
01:25:00,443 --> 01:25:01,421
for it or

2098
01:25:02,432 --> 01:25:04,581
the right applicant for the job. You know

2099
01:25:04,581 --> 01:25:05,059
what I mean?

2100
01:25:07,304 --> 01:25:09,459
Because if you can't handle the lurk challenging

2101
01:25:09,459 --> 01:25:11,055
you, how the hell are you gonna handle

2102
01:25:11,055 --> 01:25:13,231
all the weird ass freaky stuff that happens

2103
01:25:13,370 --> 01:25:15,046
when you're doing Ob ease and whatnot.

2104
01:25:15,860 --> 01:25:16,820
That are way worse.

2105
01:25:18,020 --> 01:25:20,100
You're not going to, and it could be

2106
01:25:20,100 --> 01:25:20,600
mentally

2107
01:25:21,539 --> 01:25:22,039
damaging

2108
01:25:23,060 --> 01:25:23,940
if you're not prepared.

2109
01:25:24,993 --> 01:25:27,540
But once the aspirin sprint traveler accomplishes this,

2110
01:25:28,018 --> 01:25:29,530
the Lurk at the threshold will then leave

2111
01:25:29,530 --> 01:25:30,803
them alone from that point onward.

2112
01:25:31,440 --> 01:25:33,863
And like I said, many do not eat

2113
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:34,952
encounter the lurk,

2114
01:25:35,905 --> 01:25:36,699
but those who do.

2115
01:25:37,812 --> 01:25:40,195
It's not obvious exactly what's going on.

2116
01:25:41,644 --> 01:25:43,162
Which is why I find it hilarious that

2117
01:25:43,322 --> 01:25:44,920
Bob M really never talks about it.

2118
01:25:46,278 --> 01:25:48,296
But it does make sense from the context

2119
01:25:48,435 --> 01:25:50,530
that the less you're expecting a bad stuff

2120
01:25:50,530 --> 01:25:52,770
to happen, it's probably easier at the lurk

2121
01:25:52,770 --> 01:25:55,170
at the threshold experience is gonna be. If

2122
01:25:55,170 --> 01:25:57,970
you're freaked out and expecting kind screw stuff,

2123
01:25:59,179 --> 01:26:01,801
And that's what's gonna happen. So in some

2124
01:26:01,801 --> 01:26:02,279
cases,

2125
01:26:02,993 --> 01:26:05,139
unless you know the better, but not all

2126
01:26:05,139 --> 01:26:07,542
cases. And I find the idea that an

2127
01:26:07,542 --> 01:26:09,932
entity exists that blocks people from doing things

2128
01:26:09,932 --> 01:26:12,322
like astra projection, if you're not ready to

2129
01:26:12,322 --> 01:26:14,234
be pretty fascinating. What do you think? K,

2130
01:26:14,394 --> 01:26:15,212
that's pretty

2131
01:26:15,604 --> 01:26:16,404
That's pretty cool.

2132
01:26:18,481 --> 01:26:20,958
But, again, just to clarify, you can also

2133
01:26:20,958 --> 01:26:23,115
just look at it as your subconscious protecting

2134
01:26:23,115 --> 01:26:24,395
you, your ancestors,

2135
01:26:24,809 --> 01:26:26,881
or some guardian angel or higher self,

2136
01:26:27,757 --> 01:26:28,155
etcetera.

2137
01:26:30,386 --> 01:26:32,139
I think that I kinda started bla too

2138
01:26:32,139 --> 01:26:34,505
much about this Robert Mon monroe stuff and

2139
01:26:35,179 --> 01:26:36,527
I mean, it's supposed to be about Cia.

2140
01:26:36,685 --> 01:26:36,844
Right?

2141
01:26:38,430 --> 01:26:41,048
But the Cia document that was d as

2142
01:26:41,048 --> 01:26:42,158
talking about all this stuff.

2143
01:26:42,888 --> 01:26:45,588
You just happened to find me overlapping with

2144
01:26:45,588 --> 01:26:47,439
the topic I know a lot about and

2145
01:26:47,654 --> 01:26:49,027
enjoy myself. So,

2146
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:51,386
yes, I just couldn't resist bla a little

2147
01:26:51,386 --> 01:26:51,545
bit.

2148
01:26:52,434 --> 01:26:55,615
The d Cia document directly refers to the

2149
01:26:55,695 --> 01:26:57,684
Mon monroe Institute gateway experience.

2150
01:26:58,240 --> 01:26:59,036
As legitimate,

2151
01:26:59,927 --> 01:27:01,602
and used it in training for their own

2152
01:27:01,602 --> 01:27:03,617
programs, Aspirin and test subjects.

2153
01:27:04,632 --> 01:27:06,306
And all you need to begin the Mon

2154
01:27:06,306 --> 01:27:07,901
monroe institute gateway experience.

2155
01:27:08,474 --> 01:27:11,346
Like I said, is just some decent headphones,

2156
01:27:12,145 --> 01:27:14,618
and a quiet place to practice, mind awake,

2157
01:27:15,017 --> 01:27:15,815
body sleep.

2158
01:27:16,389 --> 01:27:18,943
And the meditation practices while listening to hem

2159
01:27:18,943 --> 01:27:19,182
sink.

2160
01:27:22,295 --> 01:27:23,970
In Bob's book far journeys.

2161
01:27:24,864 --> 01:27:27,679
He documented his own Obi through a psychedelic

2162
01:27:28,297 --> 01:27:30,293
abstract adventure outside of his body.

2163
01:27:31,091 --> 01:27:33,966
He says his, quote on, quote, second body.

2164
01:27:34,458 --> 01:27:35,833
Took him to other realities

2165
01:27:36,208 --> 01:27:37,799
separated from his fiscal life.

2166
01:27:38,435 --> 01:27:39,628
It was a while ago that I read

2167
01:27:39,628 --> 01:27:41,162
those books, but

2168
01:27:41,554 --> 01:27:42,909
He does a bunch of weird stuff in

2169
01:27:42,909 --> 01:27:45,222
the books. Check them out. I kinda probably

2170
01:27:45,222 --> 01:27:46,738
go over them to refresh my mind a

2171
01:27:46,738 --> 01:27:49,769
little bit. But these experiences are basically just

2172
01:27:49,769 --> 01:27:50,646
astra projection.

2173
01:27:51,458 --> 01:27:54,162
The journey is sometimes frightening with Bob meaning

2174
01:27:54,162 --> 01:27:58,456
dead humans, parasitic entities, and abstract trips into

2175
01:27:58,456 --> 01:27:59,252
unknown dimensions.

2176
01:27:59,823 --> 01:28:01,568
So you can see how it makes sense

2177
01:28:01,568 --> 01:28:03,868
kinda like that a alert... An entity like

2178
01:28:03,868 --> 01:28:05,931
the lurk at the threshold would exist kinda.

2179
01:28:06,899 --> 01:28:09,050
Know to keep people from doing stuff that

2180
01:28:09,050 --> 01:28:09,926
they're not ready for.

2181
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,554
In Bob's tales,

2182
01:28:13,430 --> 01:28:15,875
these spirits and ghosts could actually very much

2183
01:28:16,154 --> 01:28:18,463
screw was someone's mental health, and even cause

2184
01:28:18,463 --> 01:28:19,100
mental illness,

2185
01:28:19,738 --> 01:28:20,238
Ptsd,

2186
01:28:20,852 --> 01:28:21,251
etcetera.

2187
01:28:21,808 --> 01:28:24,356
Not to mention creepy inter interdimensional aliens,

2188
01:28:25,327 --> 01:28:27,236
So let's just say stuff gets really, really

2189
01:28:27,236 --> 01:28:27,474
weird.

2190
01:28:28,270 --> 01:28:30,259
Bob goes on a trip that seems like

2191
01:28:30,259 --> 01:28:30,895
it's the...

2192
01:28:32,104 --> 01:28:33,401
The beginning of

2193
01:28:33,858 --> 01:28:37,605
when humans actually started receiving souls for rein

2194
01:28:37,605 --> 01:28:38,243
rejuvenation, I guess,

2195
01:28:38,961 --> 01:28:40,156
which is pretty bizarre first.

2196
01:28:40,809 --> 01:28:43,047
And the way these books are written, seems

2197
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kind of quaint and hard to read with

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01:28:44,885 --> 01:28:46,003
a bunch of weird terms.

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Read them you'll note know what I mean.

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But essentially,

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Bob meets like these little light entity beings,

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and they show him kind of the gears

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01:28:55,510 --> 01:28:56,488
behind reality.

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F.

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It's interesting.

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01:29:00,445 --> 01:29:01,634
And it shows them a lot.

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01:29:02,426 --> 01:29:03,560
It's hard to tell

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01:29:04,264 --> 01:29:06,102
like time and space have no meaning doing

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01:29:06,102 --> 01:29:07,161
this stuff. So

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01:29:08,419 --> 01:29:10,096
you shouldn't look at it in a linear

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01:29:10,096 --> 01:29:11,534
sense, so the stories won't make sense.

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01:29:12,345 --> 01:29:13,616
But I'm 1 of the books I can't

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01:29:13,616 --> 01:29:14,252
remember which 1.

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01:29:14,887 --> 01:29:16,716
He meets his energy beings and it's like

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01:29:16,716 --> 01:29:18,543
their first time going into a human.

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01:29:19,353 --> 01:29:22,059
And they all exist in a society outside

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01:29:22,059 --> 01:29:23,571
of humanity, you know, they're like,

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01:29:24,446 --> 01:29:26,355
going about their business, they're they all know

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01:29:26,355 --> 01:29:27,708
each other to these light entities.

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01:29:28,757 --> 01:29:29,812
Then 1 of them

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01:29:30,423 --> 01:29:32,488
goes into a human and he lives his

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01:29:32,488 --> 01:29:33,677
entire life as a caveman man.

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01:29:34,868 --> 01:29:36,853
Then he comes back to tell the tale.

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01:29:38,298 --> 01:29:40,126
The entity does this a decent amount of

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01:29:40,126 --> 01:29:42,510
times each time coming back to tell the

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01:29:42,510 --> 01:29:44,360
other light entities about the experiences.

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01:29:44,909 --> 01:29:46,667
And taking more of the light entities to

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01:29:46,667 --> 01:29:48,025
en inca as humans with him.

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01:29:49,144 --> 01:29:50,822
He talks about how in his human inform

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01:29:50,822 --> 01:29:52,041
he was chilled brutally

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01:29:52,592 --> 01:29:55,054
taken advantage of as a woman died of

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01:29:55,054 --> 01:29:55,554
hunger

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01:29:55,928 --> 01:29:56,667
was beaten

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01:29:57,119 --> 01:29:58,732
and all kinds of

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01:29:59,582 --> 01:30:01,886
pretty brutal stuff. You get the idea.

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01:30:02,538 --> 01:30:04,853
Like killing in battle and whatnot. The entity

2237
01:30:04,853 --> 01:30:06,209
is like, oh, yeah, it was dope.

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01:30:07,965 --> 01:30:08,682
But the thing is,

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01:30:09,973 --> 01:30:12,753
is that every single time this light entity

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01:30:12,753 --> 01:30:13,310
came back,

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01:30:13,865 --> 01:30:15,296
it lost a little bit of self.

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01:30:16,170 --> 01:30:17,837
Like it started to forget what it really

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01:30:17,837 --> 01:30:18,076
was.

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01:30:18,890 --> 01:30:22,109
Outside of inca as humans. And it became

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01:30:22,250 --> 01:30:25,449
addicted to inca as humans. It came back

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01:30:25,449 --> 01:30:28,185
more and more forgetful of its original energy

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01:30:28,185 --> 01:30:30,105
form and interacted less and less with the

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01:30:30,105 --> 01:30:32,185
other energy beings just looking for its next

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01:30:32,185 --> 01:30:33,225
fix to go back in.

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01:30:34,664 --> 01:30:36,537
Eventually, It is pretty much lost

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01:30:36,993 --> 01:30:37,493
altogether

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01:30:37,869 --> 01:30:39,942
and is fully addicted to inca as a

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01:30:39,942 --> 01:30:42,731
human and completely forgot about its whole original

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01:30:42,731 --> 01:30:44,734
role. Or existence.

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01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:47,592
Like a forgotten dream.

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01:30:49,021 --> 01:30:51,563
More and more, the energy being begin inca

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01:30:51,563 --> 01:30:52,301
this way

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01:30:52,770 --> 01:30:55,409
and more and more, they lose themselves and

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01:30:55,409 --> 01:30:56,050
don't come back.

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01:30:57,969 --> 01:30:59,969
Then there are these other beings called the

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01:30:59,969 --> 01:31:02,210
inspect that do not claim to have created

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01:31:02,210 --> 01:31:04,536
human experience but manage the flow

2263
01:31:04,908 --> 01:31:05,647
of a

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01:31:06,735 --> 01:31:07,766
something called lu.

2265
01:31:08,578 --> 01:31:09,854
I don't know if I really wanna get

2266
01:31:09,854 --> 01:31:12,087
into Luc, but if you are familiar with

2267
01:31:12,087 --> 01:31:13,602
our ko floor, our con.

2268
01:31:14,399 --> 01:31:16,473
It seems pretty freaking arc iconic.

2269
01:31:17,684 --> 01:31:20,246
And the human experience is actually

2270
01:31:22,443 --> 01:31:24,188
metaphorically I'll explain it this way.

2271
01:31:24,999 --> 01:31:28,435
We produce a fine wine for other spiritual

2272
01:31:28,435 --> 01:31:28,755
beings,

2273
01:31:29,713 --> 01:31:32,291
and it's like an energy source of

2274
01:31:33,242 --> 01:31:33,560
loose.

2275
01:31:34,433 --> 01:31:35,386
Not physical food.

2276
01:31:36,418 --> 01:31:38,721
So there's a huge hierarchy of spiritual entities

2277
01:31:38,721 --> 01:31:39,913
in the universe university. Yeah. I don't know.

2278
01:31:40,152 --> 01:31:42,296
This... That's a whole another a rabbit hole.

2279
01:31:43,742 --> 01:31:46,604
These specs could be analogous to a plethora

2280
01:31:46,604 --> 01:31:48,456
of different possibilities from

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01:31:49,944 --> 01:31:50,444
mythology,

2282
01:31:50,818 --> 01:31:51,318
history,

2283
01:31:52,821 --> 01:31:54,411
the occult, you name it.

2284
01:31:55,524 --> 01:31:57,273
There could be higher beings that keep humans

2285
01:31:57,273 --> 01:31:59,817
rein per and experiencing all the ups and

2286
01:31:59,817 --> 01:32:01,668
downs of life to produce

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01:32:01,978 --> 01:32:02,478
loose

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01:32:02,850 --> 01:32:04,779
energy for unknown intelligences,

2289
01:32:06,818 --> 01:32:07,453
were a farm.

2290
01:32:10,564 --> 01:32:13,426
The Cia analysis and assessment of Robert Mon

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01:32:13,426 --> 01:32:14,697
monroe gateway experience.

2292
01:32:15,650 --> 01:32:17,955
Overlap with concepts from Carlos Cast books.

2293
01:32:18,528 --> 01:32:19,985
With an attempt at scientific

2294
01:32:20,601 --> 01:32:20,841
explanation.

2295
01:32:21,479 --> 01:32:23,792
He work doesn't actually try to steer clear

2296
01:32:23,792 --> 01:32:26,265
of esoteric terms like Robert Mon monroe.

2297
01:32:29,388 --> 01:32:31,937
But the analysis touches on some pretty wild

2298
01:32:31,937 --> 01:32:33,871
stuff, more so than just Obi.

2299
01:32:34,963 --> 01:32:36,716
It includes waking dreaming.

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01:32:37,526 --> 01:32:38,877
Past and future travel,

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01:32:39,672 --> 01:32:40,307
remote viewing,

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01:32:41,023 --> 01:32:41,818
transcend dental,

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01:32:42,453 --> 01:32:42,693
meditation,

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01:32:43,408 --> 01:32:45,736
and belief systems in terms of hologram,

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01:32:46,684 --> 01:32:48,682
The Cia document talks about a whole bunch

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01:32:48,682 --> 01:32:50,920
of es esoteric terms in a serious fashion,

2307
01:32:51,319 --> 01:32:53,158
you'd never really think would come from the

2308
01:32:53,238 --> 01:32:54,916
Cia like it would be talking about it

2309
01:32:54,916 --> 01:32:55,475
in that way.

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01:32:57,081 --> 01:32:58,826
Here's a quote from the Cia document.

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01:32:59,619 --> 01:33:02,181
The universe is composed of interacting

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01:33:02,554 --> 01:33:03,030
energy fields,

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01:33:03,743 --> 01:33:05,902
some at best and some in motion.

2314
01:33:06,775 --> 01:33:10,212
It is in and of itself, 1 gigantic

2315
01:33:10,426 --> 01:33:12,728
hologram of unbelievable complexity,

2316
01:33:13,618 --> 01:33:15,796
according to the theories of Carl Crib,

2317
01:33:16,573 --> 01:33:17,233
a neuroscientist

2318
01:33:17,770 --> 01:33:19,069
at the Stanford University

2319
01:33:19,447 --> 01:33:22,401
and David Bo, a physicist at the University

2320
01:33:22,401 --> 01:33:22,960
of London.

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01:33:23,770 --> 01:33:26,394
The human mind is also a hologram, which

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01:33:26,394 --> 01:33:28,484
att itself to universal hologram

2323
01:33:29,177 --> 01:33:31,006
by the medium of energy exchange.

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01:33:31,974 --> 01:33:34,755
Thereby d reducing meaning and achieving the state

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01:33:34,755 --> 01:33:36,525
which we all call, consciousness.

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01:33:37,614 --> 01:33:40,104
With respect to the states have expanded or

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01:33:40,104 --> 01:33:41,005
altered consciousness

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01:33:41,625 --> 01:33:44,585
such as gateway uses, the process operates in

2329
01:33:44,585 --> 01:33:45,465
the following way.

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01:33:47,396 --> 01:33:49,788
Energy bass through various aspects of the universal

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01:33:49,868 --> 01:33:50,368
Hologram

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01:33:50,745 --> 01:33:54,094
and is perceived by the electrostatic fields which

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01:33:54,094 --> 01:33:55,291
comprise the human mind.

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01:33:55,863 --> 01:33:59,118
The holographic images being conveyed are projected upon

2335
01:33:59,118 --> 01:33:59,618
those

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01:33:59,991 --> 01:34:01,341
electrostatic fields at the mind,

2337
01:34:01,976 --> 01:34:04,616
and are perceived or under stood to the

2338
01:34:04,616 --> 01:34:07,726
extent that the electrostatic fields is operating at

2339
01:34:07,726 --> 01:34:10,837
a frequency and amplitude that can harmon within

2340
01:34:10,837 --> 01:34:13,070
and therefore read the energy carrier.

2341
01:34:13,564 --> 01:34:15,638
Wave pattern passing through its.

2342
01:34:16,756 --> 01:34:19,968
Changes in the frequency and amplitude of the

2343
01:34:20,186 --> 01:34:20,880
electrostatic field

2344
01:34:21,878 --> 01:34:23,896
which comprises the human mind

2345
01:34:24,355 --> 01:34:27,072
determines the configuration hence the character of the

2346
01:34:27,072 --> 01:34:28,530
holographic energy matrix,

2347
01:34:28,844 --> 01:34:31,872
which the mind projects to intercept, meaning directly

2348
01:34:31,872 --> 01:34:32,692
from the holographic

2349
01:34:33,148 --> 01:34:34,184
transmissions of the universe.

2350
01:34:35,858 --> 01:34:36,096
Then,

2351
01:34:37,225 --> 01:34:39,210
To make sense of what the holographic image

2352
01:34:39,210 --> 01:34:40,479
is saying to it.

2353
01:34:41,273 --> 01:34:43,891
The mind proceeds to compare the image just

2354
01:34:43,891 --> 01:34:44,764
perceived with itself.

2355
01:34:46,053 --> 01:34:46,553
Specifically,

2356
01:34:47,330 --> 01:34:49,645
it does this by comparing the image received

2357
01:34:49,645 --> 01:34:51,662
with that part of its own hologram,

2358
01:34:52,039 --> 01:34:53,476
which constitutes memory.

2359
01:34:54,529 --> 01:34:57,027
By registering differences in the geometric

2360
01:34:57,406 --> 01:34:59,505
form and in energy frequency.

2361
01:35:00,283 --> 01:35:01,023
The consciousness

2362
01:35:01,402 --> 01:35:01,801
perceives.

2363
01:35:03,972 --> 01:35:04,211
Quote,

2364
01:35:05,564 --> 01:35:08,589
Analysis and assessment of the gateway program, the

2365
01:35:08,668 --> 01:35:09,168
Cia.

2366
01:35:11,708 --> 01:35:13,458
So I guess like a holographic model of

2367
01:35:13,458 --> 01:35:15,923
the universe and consciousness is nothing new. I

2368
01:35:15,923 --> 01:35:17,197
mean, we've talk about it before on the

2369
01:35:17,197 --> 01:35:19,525
show. But I've always found it pretty fascinating.

2370
01:35:20,791 --> 01:35:22,802
However, the Cia talks about

2371
01:35:23,417 --> 01:35:24,712
this stuff in a

2372
01:35:25,247 --> 01:35:27,077
too serious of a manner for my taste.

2373
01:35:27,809 --> 01:35:30,365
I don't trust the Cia. But the Cia

2374
01:35:30,365 --> 01:35:32,203
talks about how the gateway program can be

2375
01:35:32,203 --> 01:35:34,440
used to transcend time and space itself.

2376
01:35:35,175 --> 01:35:37,567
The document talks about consciousness and energy and

2377
01:35:37,567 --> 01:35:39,981
all kinds of trippy woo stuff that

2378
01:35:41,874 --> 01:35:43,252
is suppressed in the mainstream

2379
01:35:43,868 --> 01:35:44,746
by bad actors.

2380
01:35:46,113 --> 01:35:47,622
And it keeps on going back to the

2381
01:35:47,622 --> 01:35:49,530
them on Monroe Institute stuff over and over.

2382
01:35:51,278 --> 01:35:52,550
So what do you think is it bizarre

2383
01:35:52,550 --> 01:35:54,474
to hear the Cia talk about... Stuff like

2384
01:35:54,553 --> 01:35:57,186
Ob being real in like a scientific sense.

2385
01:35:58,144 --> 01:35:59,740
They throw in quantum physics and a whole

2386
01:35:59,740 --> 01:36:01,256
bunch of other mind boggling topics.

2387
01:36:01,895 --> 01:36:04,064
Stuff So go check out the documents or

2388
01:36:04,064 --> 01:36:06,059
these books too that I base this episode

2389
01:36:06,059 --> 01:36:06,219
on.

2390
01:36:07,496 --> 01:36:09,092
Links in the details of this episode.

2391
01:36:10,065 --> 01:36:10,565
Definitely

2392
01:36:11,025 --> 01:36:13,905
should raise some eyebrows and confusion. The document

2393
01:36:13,905 --> 01:36:16,704
talks about Wu es o esoteric and meta

2394
01:36:16,704 --> 01:36:19,025
physics as if it is grounded and real.

2395
01:36:19,677 --> 01:36:21,583
And the Cia then goes on to explain

2396
01:36:21,583 --> 01:36:23,252
stuff that would have someone put in the

2397
01:36:23,331 --> 01:36:25,317
Loo bin if they talked about it in

2398
01:36:25,317 --> 01:36:26,508
public a hundred years ago.

2399
01:36:27,381 --> 01:36:29,024
These government agencies

2400
01:36:29,465 --> 01:36:31,465
Sure have been up to some weird stuff

2401
01:36:31,465 --> 01:36:32,904
behind the scenes over the years.

2402
01:37:21,649 --> 01:37:23,724
That's all for today's episode. I hope you

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01:37:23,724 --> 01:37:26,779
enjoyed this long tail about the Us government's

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01:37:27,157 --> 01:37:27,657
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2405
01:37:28,275 --> 01:37:31,010
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You keep the lights on.

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But most of all, thanks for listening.

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And as 1 of my favorite philosophers from

2443
01:38:54,083 --> 01:38:55,038
history once said.

2444
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:57,768
I'm a master

2445
01:38:58,143 --> 01:38:59,757
of speaking silently.

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01:39:00,690 --> 01:39:00,824
But

2447
01:39:05,734 --> 01:39:07,511
I'm telling you getting the,

2448
01:39:07,969 --> 01:39:09,939
and there's a reason why I'm getting the

2449
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Oh and everyone. Don't neither believe it or

2450
01:39:13,085 --> 01:39:15,734
they cannot believe it. I don't get too

2451
01:39:16,349 --> 01:39:19,790
but I am telling you right. Out, that

2452
01:39:19,790 --> 01:39:20,290
mother

2453
01:39:21,065 --> 01:39:23,457
that another back is not real.

2454
01:39:24,813 --> 01:39:27,046
And you can spit this plane and you

2455
01:39:27,046 --> 01:39:29,049
can Die with this or not.

2456
01:39:29,608 --> 01:39:30,566
I'm not going to.