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I'm thrilled today to
be joined by Mark Combs,

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chief Technology officer
of Vandellia Health. Mark,

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it's a pleasure to have
you on the podcast today.

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Thank you. It's great to be here.

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Now, I know we've got a lot to talk about.

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There's so much happening
in healthcare right now,

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but then for you in particular,

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as you're working through a
merger of two organizations,

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but before we dive into my questions,

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can you tell me a little bit more
about yourself and your background?

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Yeah, so, um, I've been,
been in it for over 25 years.

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Uh, this is my second health health
organization that I've been with,

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have worked just about in every
area of it you can think of. It's,

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uh, it's a fascinating field and it's
just constantly changing. So it's,

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it's very, keeps me very
interested, that's for sure.

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Absolutely. I I can imagine there's
never a dull moment, really, uh,

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from the healthcare perspective. And,
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if you could talk a little bit more about
how vandellia Health it was formed and

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where you're at right now in that process
of connecting the two organizations.

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Um, and,

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and then we can dive into the broader
technology and health IT questions.

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Yeah, I would, I would love
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I joined Mon Health System
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one road and, um, in September of 2022,

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we came together with Charleston Area
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West Virginia. We're in
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up in sort of the north
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and we decided to come together
and inform Vandellia Health.

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The two organizations really have
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we're growing. Uh,

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we've recently added two hospitals
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acquisitions around the state. It's a
very exciting time to be a part of, uh,

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Vandellia Health,

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and I'm just really happy to be here and
to be serving the people of the great

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state of West Virginia.

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That's fantastic and definitely
exciting to hear about the growth and

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development of the broader system.
I, I know that's a huge undertaking.

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So w with that in mind,

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what are some of the opportunities
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for the organization as well as the
headwinds that you have your eye on?

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Yeah, I think one area of growth that,

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that we've really finally started
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telemedicine. You know,

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a lot of organizations around the country
have been very successful with this.

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It's something that we're really
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being able to reach out to the
rural areas of West Virginia.

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And almost every single area
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we're a state of around
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Most of your listeners live in cities
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that's West Virginia.
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it takes 30 minutes to get anywhere,
and good healthcare is hard to come by,

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especially some of the
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So we're really reaching out in
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other areas that, you know, people
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in some of these smaller places.

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They just don't have enough population
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salaries. There's just not
the population or support it.

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access to universities and we have
access to more physicians and,

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and better infrastructure,
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we're able to extend those physicians
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throughout the state and really help
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of West Virginia.

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as you mentioned, the distance in,

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in a lot of the population living
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from the technology side make sure that,
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the people that you're working with have
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connect to the communities
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maybe they might not have
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So how are you thinking through
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making sure that you're still able
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it always starts with process and people,

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so a lot of times when, when we started
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can we get this cart? Ooh, can we get
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do we even know what
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a great director of telemedicine here and
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and help with these operational issues.
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the rest that kind of fell into place,

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and we really have been able to
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as you said, connectivity
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but usually in these areas where we might
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have, you know, a community hospital or,
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they do have some sort of
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area and we're able to set up a room
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connected to that hospital's
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we're starting to strike out
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Those aren't fully formed yet, but we're
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you know, you, you're seeing
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those types of services
now as we're moving forward
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I know right now is, uh, important
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especially as you've got two
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adding two more hospitals as well. Um,

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what does growth look like and how do you,

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are you adding value to
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How are we adding value to
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Isn't that the constant question
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We are trying to deliver our
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We're trying to be good stewards of
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over purchasing things that, you know,
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We wanna make sure everything that we're
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um, strategic plan.

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I think a lot of times that's where IT
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fix the computer or fix this or keep the
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but we really are and should be a
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understanding the organization's vision,

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sitting at the table with the
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helping to drive it, but
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So we can't run ahead
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We have to understand what the
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correct technology that will help
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what the business wants to accomplish.

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Absolutely. I think that makes
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it is great to hear from your
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really just align with the larger
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of the organization. Um, I,

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I think I'd love to hear when you look
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that you work most closely
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from the teams that you're working with
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mode, I guess, for the
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understand that their individual
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growing, learning and understanding
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Everyone's gotta be on board
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gotta move in that right direction,
and there's no magic switch.

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You know, we may have been working a
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10 years, whatever. We kind
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it's my responsibility and,

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and my leadership team's responsibility
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they can be more successful, help them
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They're really part of a
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and kind of help them look up out
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if that makes sense.

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especially when you're at a time where,
as you mentioned, you need everybody,

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uh, to be moving the right
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there's high change happening.
Um, you know, I think that's very,

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very interesting to hear in a
great mindset to have. Now, um,

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you talked a little bit about some of
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and how you really are, um,
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interest in, in the goals
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What do you see as being one risk or
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year that will add leaps and
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to do in the future?

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Well, I, I, I think I would answer that
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what would be right for our
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generally when thinking
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you have to think about where you
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and what your goals are.

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I feel like one of the investments
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to make is to, um, look at
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trying to better connect with
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We haven't really got there yet. It's a
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uh, VANDELLIA south area is, uh,

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probably ahead of that than the Vandellia
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that that's how we designate them
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we're still kind of running somewhat
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we're moving more together and we're
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the senior executive team is really
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that way. But it takes time.

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with our folks, our
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I was recently at an
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We spend so much time focused on the
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consumers of healthcare.

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with. I think the second way
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growth and explosion of this thing
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but we recently saw out of hymns
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and I think even Salesforce are starting
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products. If we as, as technologists
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don't lift our heads up and kind of
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it's quickly going to run over us.

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So just a couple of thoughts on areas
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Absolutely. I think that's fascinating
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as you mentioned, uh, having
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it is something that's front of mind.
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having Epic and Microsoft work together
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really fascinating to look at where the
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two challenges could be for
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When you look at your own organization,
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is that something that comes
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or something that's still
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something that you're thinking through
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potentially, uh, you
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could be ready to bring it into
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it's not on a lot of
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We're trying to raise the consciousness
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But like a lot of things,

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we're all running so fast and we're
trying to do all these great things that

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it's sort of outside of our
peripheral vision at the moment.

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It is an area of potential risk that I
think our risk and legal teams need to

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take a look at. Definitely our technology
teams need to understand and, uh,

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our operational leadership needs
to think through it as well.

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It's not something we're
going to be able to avoid.

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It's here and it's just going to grow
and continue to become more and more a

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part of our daily lives.

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Absolutely. Great perspective. Now,
before we wrap up our conversation,

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I just have one more question
and looking into the future,

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how do you see your role evolving in,

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in growth for you and the
technology teams at Valia Health? I.

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Think it goes back to that comment
around aligning with the organization.

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You know, I think gone are the days,

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and maybe they should never have
been the days when we just deal with

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the, the plumbing of it.

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I think we have to continually work
and think like business leaders and not

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necessarily strictly technology leaders.

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We have to make better
purchases for the organization.

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We have to do a better job at
aligning and using our resources.

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We have to be more efficient
in how we're using what the

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organization provides us. All
of the, a lot of the funds,

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I think about it this way,
when I spend the funds,

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it's from somebody's grandmother
coming in to get a lab done. You know,

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am I gonna take that money that they
provided us and blow that on some piece of

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technology that's just gonna sit on
a shelf for the next three years?

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And then one's gonna think
about, or some piece of software,

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we're only gonna get 10% usage out of.

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I think we have to be smarter and
wiser about our technology purchases,

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our decisions, find ways to
simplify our technology stack,

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find ways to better leverage the
cloud and just look at ways to,

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to simplify what we're doing so we can
be more efficient and more effective.

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Fantastic. Well, mark, thank you so
much for joining the podcast today.

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This has been really a fun conversation
and we're excited to have you join us as

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well in October for the Health IT
Digital Health and Revenue Cycle event.

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I know there'll be a lot of discussions
around many of the themes we've talked

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about here, and so it'll be great
to catch up, uh, later this year.

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Yeah, I'm, I'm really
looking forward to it.

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Last year was a really fun conference
and, uh, I think Becker's just does a,

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a great job and, and I appreciate
the opportunity to participate.