1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,419 This is where health care leadership comes together. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,679 Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500 3 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:10,880 hospital and health system executives and nearly 800 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,019 speakers to Chicago 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,259 April. 6 00:00:14,615 --> 00:00:17,335 This year's event includes keynote conversations with Dallas 7 00:00:17,335 --> 00:00:20,214 Cowboys legend Troy Aikman and former president George 8 00:00:20,214 --> 00:00:22,934 w Bush. For the agenda and event details, 9 00:00:22,934 --> 00:00:25,175 visit beckershospitalreview.com 10 00:00:25,175 --> 00:00:26,855 and click on the events tab in the 11 00:00:26,855 --> 00:00:29,574 upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you 12 00:00:29,574 --> 00:00:30,314 in Chicago. 13 00:00:31,550 --> 00:00:33,710 Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Becker's Healthcare 14 00:00:33,710 --> 00:00:35,869 podcast. I'm Scott King, thrilled today to be 15 00:00:35,869 --> 00:00:38,270 joined by a very special guest, Disha k 16 00:00:38,270 --> 00:00:41,869 Brown, senior director, community clinics network operations over 17 00:00:41,869 --> 00:00:43,950 at UCLA Health. Disha, how are you? Thanks 18 00:00:43,950 --> 00:00:45,170 so much for joining us. 19 00:00:45,534 --> 00:00:48,015 I'm doing well, Scott. Thank you so much 20 00:00:48,015 --> 00:00:49,075 for having me. 21 00:00:49,695 --> 00:00:50,975 Of course. Of course. And, you know, we 22 00:00:50,975 --> 00:00:52,895 have a lot of of big topics in 23 00:00:52,895 --> 00:00:54,575 health care to to lean on you for 24 00:00:54,734 --> 00:00:56,494 to answer for us just a little bit. 25 00:00:56,494 --> 00:00:57,774 Before you do that, I was hoping you 26 00:00:57,774 --> 00:00:59,054 can give us a little bit about a 27 00:00:59,054 --> 00:01:01,460 little information about your background and your career 28 00:01:01,460 --> 00:01:02,199 in health care. 29 00:01:02,899 --> 00:01:04,119 Absolutely. Absolutely. 30 00:01:04,900 --> 00:01:07,219 So, Scott, currently, I serve as the senior 31 00:01:07,219 --> 00:01:09,879 director of community clinics operations 32 00:01:10,180 --> 00:01:12,579 here at UCLA Health, and I've been in 33 00:01:12,579 --> 00:01:15,385 this role now for a little bit over 34 00:01:15,444 --> 00:01:17,145 a year and a half. I have 35 00:01:17,525 --> 00:01:18,424 close to, 36 00:01:19,605 --> 00:01:21,704 twenty years of health care operations 37 00:01:22,165 --> 00:01:24,905 experience. And currently here at UCLA, 38 00:01:25,204 --> 00:01:26,265 I have the privilege 39 00:01:26,645 --> 00:01:29,545 of leading over 200 community clinics 40 00:01:29,980 --> 00:01:33,680 that delivers care to diverse communities across seven 41 00:01:33,739 --> 00:01:34,239 regions. 42 00:01:34,939 --> 00:01:37,760 Our clinics are often the front door 43 00:01:38,219 --> 00:01:40,459 to our health system, and the work that 44 00:01:40,459 --> 00:01:43,359 we do every day is centered on 45 00:01:44,045 --> 00:01:46,704 one simple but powerful mission, 46 00:01:47,084 --> 00:01:49,724 and that is healing with human kindness one 47 00:01:49,724 --> 00:01:52,125 patient at a time. And I like to 48 00:01:52,125 --> 00:01:55,084 think that what makes our organization special is 49 00:01:55,084 --> 00:01:57,424 not just the scale of what we do, 50 00:01:57,730 --> 00:02:01,430 but the intentional focus on bringing high quality 51 00:02:01,650 --> 00:02:03,109 academic level care 52 00:02:03,489 --> 00:02:06,609 closer to where patients live, work, and raise 53 00:02:06,609 --> 00:02:07,430 their families. 54 00:02:08,209 --> 00:02:10,310 Through our community clinic footprint, 55 00:02:10,995 --> 00:02:12,455 we see approximately 56 00:02:12,754 --> 00:02:16,055 close to a million outpatient visits a year. 57 00:02:16,115 --> 00:02:17,335 And so we're expanding 58 00:02:17,635 --> 00:02:21,655 access and advancing population health and really building 59 00:02:21,715 --> 00:02:23,415 care models that are increasingly 60 00:02:23,794 --> 00:02:26,135 team based and patient centered. 61 00:02:26,610 --> 00:02:27,590 For me personally, 62 00:02:28,689 --> 00:02:31,729 the work is deeply meaningful because it sits 63 00:02:31,729 --> 00:02:32,629 at the intersection 64 00:02:33,889 --> 00:02:34,629 of leadership, 65 00:02:35,090 --> 00:02:35,590 operational 66 00:02:35,969 --> 00:02:38,930 excellence, and community service. And so this is 67 00:02:38,930 --> 00:02:41,989 what drives me and continues to inspire me 68 00:02:42,094 --> 00:02:43,854 to do the work that I do every 69 00:02:43,854 --> 00:02:44,354 day. 70 00:02:45,055 --> 00:02:46,995 Thanks so much, Disha, for sharing your background 71 00:02:47,055 --> 00:02:48,735 info there. And and, yeah, I I think 72 00:02:48,735 --> 00:02:51,375 it's it's such a great, approach to focus 73 00:02:51,375 --> 00:02:53,775 on just, you know, one patient at a 74 00:02:53,775 --> 00:02:55,055 time. I think you end up helping so 75 00:02:55,055 --> 00:02:56,495 many people that way. So thank you for 76 00:02:56,495 --> 00:02:58,629 sharing that as well. And, you know, I 77 00:02:58,629 --> 00:02:59,770 I want to start by 78 00:03:00,310 --> 00:03:02,389 getting to the topics and asking you, what 79 00:03:02,389 --> 00:03:04,870 was the most important initiative you led in 80 00:03:04,870 --> 00:03:06,789 the last year? You know, what did you 81 00:03:06,789 --> 00:03:09,030 do for that initiative, and what were the 82 00:03:09,030 --> 00:03:09,530 results? 83 00:03:10,485 --> 00:03:12,245 You know, as I reflect over the last 84 00:03:12,245 --> 00:03:14,745 year and especially being new to UCLA, 85 00:03:15,125 --> 00:03:17,284 it is a little difficult for me to 86 00:03:17,284 --> 00:03:18,264 point to just 87 00:03:18,645 --> 00:03:19,465 one initiative. 88 00:03:20,004 --> 00:03:20,504 Leadership, 89 00:03:21,284 --> 00:03:23,625 I believe, in a complex health care system 90 00:03:23,764 --> 00:03:24,264 requires 91 00:03:24,564 --> 00:03:25,064 balancing 92 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,719 the immediate operational realities while also trying to 93 00:03:29,719 --> 00:03:30,219 advance 94 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,280 long term strategic priorities, and I often refer 95 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,180 to this as the duality of leadership. 96 00:03:37,745 --> 00:03:39,444 When I stepped into my role, 97 00:03:39,824 --> 00:03:41,664 over a year and a half ago, I 98 00:03:41,664 --> 00:03:43,125 established six leadership 99 00:03:43,504 --> 00:03:44,004 imperatives 100 00:03:44,544 --> 00:03:45,764 to guide the trajectory 101 00:03:46,544 --> 00:03:48,324 of my leadership platform. 102 00:03:48,944 --> 00:03:49,924 And some of those 103 00:03:50,319 --> 00:03:53,540 imperatives included strengthening our leadership teams, 104 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:54,980 integrated collaboration, 105 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,300 governance, standardizing 106 00:03:57,760 --> 00:03:58,260 processes, 107 00:03:58,800 --> 00:03:59,620 team cohesion, 108 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:00,980 and just building 109 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:03,460 a more results driven culture. 110 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:04,500 Unfortunately, 111 00:04:05,685 --> 00:04:07,784 I had to shift focus. Within 112 00:04:08,324 --> 00:04:11,224 nine months of me being here at UCLA 113 00:04:11,365 --> 00:04:13,865 Health, we were faced with an unexpected 114 00:04:14,165 --> 00:04:14,665 crisis 115 00:04:15,205 --> 00:04:16,985 during the LA fires, 116 00:04:17,379 --> 00:04:18,439 And I'm sure everyone 117 00:04:18,819 --> 00:04:22,439 remembers and recall what a difficult time period 118 00:04:22,579 --> 00:04:23,800 that was across, 119 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:26,680 Los Angeles and Los Angeles County. 120 00:04:27,540 --> 00:04:30,774 My immediate focus at that time was ensuring 121 00:04:30,834 --> 00:04:31,495 the safety 122 00:04:31,795 --> 00:04:34,134 of our staff, patients, and operational 123 00:04:34,514 --> 00:04:35,014 assets. 124 00:04:35,634 --> 00:04:38,214 Unfortunately, during that time, we did lose, 125 00:04:39,074 --> 00:04:39,895 one of our 126 00:04:40,274 --> 00:04:40,774 facilities. 127 00:04:41,235 --> 00:04:44,610 But, thankfully, due to quick action and just 128 00:04:44,769 --> 00:04:45,589 quick leadership 129 00:04:46,129 --> 00:04:48,610 of the people we had on the ground 130 00:04:48,610 --> 00:04:51,329 and leading our clinics, no lives were lost. 131 00:04:51,329 --> 00:04:53,969 And I'm very, very grateful for that because 132 00:04:53,969 --> 00:04:55,189 certainly that remained 133 00:04:55,729 --> 00:04:58,449 my highest priority to ensure that our staff 134 00:04:58,449 --> 00:05:00,149 and our patients were safe. 135 00:05:00,944 --> 00:05:03,024 If I step back and think a little 136 00:05:03,024 --> 00:05:04,564 bit more, I would also 137 00:05:05,264 --> 00:05:07,665 highlight the fact that over the past year, 138 00:05:07,665 --> 00:05:09,925 we were able to continue advancing 139 00:05:10,545 --> 00:05:13,584 one of our population health strategies that was 140 00:05:13,584 --> 00:05:14,084 extremely 141 00:05:14,705 --> 00:05:15,205 important. 142 00:05:16,019 --> 00:05:19,160 I co champion an initiative to help improve 143 00:05:19,779 --> 00:05:21,079 hypertension management 144 00:05:21,459 --> 00:05:23,879 across our community clinic footprint, 145 00:05:24,740 --> 00:05:28,199 and this focused on repeat blood pressure checks 146 00:05:28,634 --> 00:05:31,615 for patients that were presenting with elevated 147 00:05:31,995 --> 00:05:32,495 readings. 148 00:05:33,194 --> 00:05:34,574 Our performance improved 149 00:05:35,995 --> 00:05:36,814 by approximately 150 00:05:37,834 --> 00:05:41,115 thirty percent in a very short period of 151 00:05:41,115 --> 00:05:41,615 time 152 00:05:42,180 --> 00:05:45,620 between July and December, and our fiscal year 153 00:05:45,620 --> 00:05:48,439 is not over. And so I'm super excited 154 00:05:49,139 --> 00:05:50,519 about the achievements 155 00:05:51,060 --> 00:05:52,980 of the work that we've done in regard 156 00:05:52,980 --> 00:05:55,925 to this metric and in regard to this 157 00:05:55,925 --> 00:05:58,425 particular population because it represents 158 00:05:59,285 --> 00:06:03,144 meaningful progress in reducing long term cardiovascular 159 00:06:04,404 --> 00:06:07,060 risk for the population that we serve. In 160 00:06:07,060 --> 00:06:08,740 addition to that, I just learned this week, 161 00:06:08,740 --> 00:06:10,819 and I'm even more excited about it, that 162 00:06:10,819 --> 00:06:12,360 an abstract we submitted, 163 00:06:13,060 --> 00:06:15,160 in regard to this work was selected 164 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:18,439 for the Society of Internal General Medicine conference, 165 00:06:18,980 --> 00:06:19,480 presentation 166 00:06:20,104 --> 00:06:22,345 in May. So I'm super excited about it. 167 00:06:22,345 --> 00:06:23,725 And as I think about 168 00:06:24,264 --> 00:06:25,165 both of these 169 00:06:25,785 --> 00:06:29,164 areas over the past year, the experience demonstrates 170 00:06:29,384 --> 00:06:32,204 to me our ability to navigate crisis 171 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:33,860 while still delivering 172 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:34,740 measurable 173 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:36,019 health outcomes. 174 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,279 Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for sharing that. You 175 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,439 know, it's unfortunate to hear that a a 176 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:43,120 facility was lost, but but, you know, it's 177 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,120 nice to hear that everyone kinda banded together 178 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:47,199 and everyone was okay and and just, you 179 00:06:47,199 --> 00:06:47,699 know, 180 00:06:48,654 --> 00:06:50,894 a great great leadership got you guys through 181 00:06:50,894 --> 00:06:52,574 that crisis, it sounds like. And I kinda 182 00:06:52,574 --> 00:06:53,875 wanna go back to something 183 00:06:54,254 --> 00:06:55,875 you said about leadership. 184 00:06:56,334 --> 00:06:58,254 In your introduction, I think you kinda broke 185 00:06:58,254 --> 00:07:01,714 down your role as as focusing on leadership, 186 00:07:01,854 --> 00:07:04,660 operational excellence, and community service. And what I 187 00:07:04,660 --> 00:07:06,520 wanna ask you is is out of 188 00:07:06,899 --> 00:07:08,660 those kind of three sectors you divided your 189 00:07:08,660 --> 00:07:10,759 role into, do you think that leadership 190 00:07:11,139 --> 00:07:14,120 is the most important? Because, obviously, good leadership 191 00:07:14,259 --> 00:07:17,779 leads to good operational excellence and good community 192 00:07:17,779 --> 00:07:18,279 service. 193 00:07:19,285 --> 00:07:22,104 Absolutely. At the end of the day, regardless 194 00:07:22,404 --> 00:07:24,185 of whether we're talking about being 195 00:07:24,564 --> 00:07:27,305 results driven or being more people centered 196 00:07:28,004 --> 00:07:31,764 or even focusing on improving patient experience, at 197 00:07:31,764 --> 00:07:32,904 the end of the day, 198 00:07:33,220 --> 00:07:35,079 it all connects back to leadership. 199 00:07:35,860 --> 00:07:37,319 And that is why leadership 200 00:07:37,860 --> 00:07:39,560 became one of my 201 00:07:40,740 --> 00:07:44,019 first imperatives to focus on in regard to 202 00:07:44,019 --> 00:07:45,800 ensuring that our leaders, 203 00:07:46,625 --> 00:07:49,105 are strong and they're presenting strong and that 204 00:07:49,105 --> 00:07:51,105 they have what they need to succeed in 205 00:07:51,105 --> 00:07:51,845 their roles. 206 00:07:52,785 --> 00:07:54,865 Absolutely. And and leadership will get you through 207 00:07:54,865 --> 00:07:57,105 a a crisis like you just shared with 208 00:07:57,105 --> 00:07:58,165 us, and and you'll 209 00:07:59,029 --> 00:08:00,410 able to learn from that crisis. 210 00:08:00,790 --> 00:08:02,490 Absolutely. Like that again. 211 00:08:03,029 --> 00:08:04,090 Yes. Absolutely. 212 00:08:04,949 --> 00:08:06,550 And so the thing I wanna ask you 213 00:08:06,550 --> 00:08:08,650 is, what is what is the hardest thing 214 00:08:08,949 --> 00:08:10,310 you'll have to do in the coming year, 215 00:08:10,310 --> 00:08:10,970 you think? 216 00:08:11,394 --> 00:08:13,634 I think for me, the hardest thing that 217 00:08:13,634 --> 00:08:16,435 I would have to do is continue to 218 00:08:16,435 --> 00:08:18,694 focus on leading sustained 219 00:08:19,235 --> 00:08:20,375 culture change. 220 00:08:21,074 --> 00:08:21,574 Strategy 221 00:08:22,594 --> 00:08:23,094 definitely 222 00:08:23,634 --> 00:08:24,454 is essential, 223 00:08:24,970 --> 00:08:26,649 but culture, I think, at the end of 224 00:08:26,649 --> 00:08:28,189 the day, ultimately determines 225 00:08:28,569 --> 00:08:30,110 whether strategy succeeds. 226 00:08:30,730 --> 00:08:31,949 And culture change 227 00:08:32,330 --> 00:08:35,450 is very difficult, and I often say, as 228 00:08:35,450 --> 00:08:38,649 leaders, we must learn to do hard things. 229 00:08:38,649 --> 00:08:40,585 We have to, and we have to lean 230 00:08:40,585 --> 00:08:41,805 into it. And and 231 00:08:42,345 --> 00:08:45,245 change can be certainly hard, and it requires 232 00:08:45,465 --> 00:08:45,965 consistency 233 00:08:46,665 --> 00:08:47,485 and certainly 234 00:08:48,024 --> 00:08:50,425 a lot of courage and patience at the 235 00:08:50,425 --> 00:08:53,065 same time, as well as, I believe it 236 00:08:53,065 --> 00:08:54,845 means, holding ourselves accountable 237 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,179 to the behaviors 238 00:08:56,639 --> 00:08:57,940 we say we value 239 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,660 and how we live up to those behaviors 240 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:02,340 even when it is uncomfortable 241 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,419 and staying committed to the long game despite 242 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,179 competing priorities. 243 00:09:08,674 --> 00:09:10,914 I often say I believe the real work 244 00:09:10,914 --> 00:09:11,574 of leadership 245 00:09:12,034 --> 00:09:13,254 is often unseen. 246 00:09:13,875 --> 00:09:17,254 It's not just achieving operational wins, 247 00:09:17,554 --> 00:09:21,495 but building environments where excellence becomes the norm. 248 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:23,259 I think this level of transformation 249 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,899 requires intentional effort every day, 250 00:09:26,279 --> 00:09:28,379 and I see that as both the greatest 251 00:09:28,439 --> 00:09:28,939 challenge 252 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,419 and the greatest opportunity ahead. 253 00:09:32,199 --> 00:09:33,959 Disha, where do you see the best opportunities 254 00:09:33,959 --> 00:09:34,699 for organizational 255 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:35,500 growth? 256 00:09:36,625 --> 00:09:38,164 You know, I am incredibly 257 00:09:38,544 --> 00:09:41,044 fortunate to be part of an organization 258 00:09:41,504 --> 00:09:45,125 like UCLA Health whose vision centers on healing 259 00:09:45,585 --> 00:09:48,544 with human kindness. And as demand for care 260 00:09:48,544 --> 00:09:49,924 continues to grow, 261 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:53,340 access remains one of our greatest opportunities. 262 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,279 I have this joke that I say all 263 00:09:56,279 --> 00:09:57,720 the time that, oh my gosh, I wish 264 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,560 I had a garden so I could grow 265 00:09:59,560 --> 00:10:00,379 more physicians. 266 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:03,399 It seems that we cannot simply hire enough 267 00:10:03,399 --> 00:10:05,855 physicians to meet the demand. So we must 268 00:10:05,855 --> 00:10:06,754 become smarter 269 00:10:07,294 --> 00:10:10,735 about how we design our care delivery models 270 00:10:10,735 --> 00:10:11,955 and focus on 271 00:10:12,815 --> 00:10:16,254 advanced team based models and optimizing the roles 272 00:10:16,254 --> 00:10:17,475 of all of our, 273 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,600 providers and our clinical staff and even being 274 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:23,340 able to leverage technology thoughtfully. 275 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,059 I believe that if we can do that, 276 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,940 when we build systems that are efficient, 277 00:10:30,264 --> 00:10:33,485 team based, and people centered, we can expand 278 00:10:33,625 --> 00:10:35,485 access and improve outcomes 279 00:10:35,865 --> 00:10:37,485 and at the same time, 280 00:10:37,945 --> 00:10:41,804 position the organization for long term sustainable growth. 281 00:10:42,750 --> 00:10:43,790 And, Disha, I think you have such a 282 00:10:43,790 --> 00:10:46,269 great perspective on on leadership and and what 283 00:10:46,269 --> 00:10:48,830 good leadership you know, what that entails in 284 00:10:48,830 --> 00:10:51,070 health care. I I want to to close 285 00:10:51,070 --> 00:10:52,750 this by asking you, how do you think 286 00:10:52,750 --> 00:10:54,370 you evolved as a leader? 287 00:10:55,264 --> 00:10:55,764 I 288 00:10:56,225 --> 00:10:59,105 think, you know, when you're starting out as 289 00:10:59,105 --> 00:11:01,585 a as a young leader, at some point, 290 00:11:01,585 --> 00:11:03,985 it it really appears to be daunting. It's 291 00:11:03,985 --> 00:11:06,085 like you're looking at the mountain. 292 00:11:06,625 --> 00:11:09,769 I was fortunate that throughout my leadership career 293 00:11:09,769 --> 00:11:11,070 and I began my 294 00:11:11,450 --> 00:11:13,610 experience in health care with the department of 295 00:11:13,610 --> 00:11:15,710 veteran affairs, I have the opportunity 296 00:11:16,169 --> 00:11:19,230 to really grow through various leadership platforms 297 00:11:19,690 --> 00:11:20,429 and trainings. 298 00:11:20,889 --> 00:11:22,190 In addition to that, 299 00:11:22,615 --> 00:11:23,115 matriculating 300 00:11:24,134 --> 00:11:25,754 through various senior positions, 301 00:11:26,134 --> 00:11:29,595 I think, also prepared me very, very well. 302 00:11:29,735 --> 00:11:33,095 And also facing that duality of leadership, trying 303 00:11:33,095 --> 00:11:35,754 to balance crisis while at the same time 304 00:11:36,209 --> 00:11:37,909 focusing on operational 305 00:11:38,769 --> 00:11:39,909 goals and initiatives. 306 00:11:40,529 --> 00:11:43,490 I think what has developed me the most 307 00:11:43,490 --> 00:11:46,289 as a leader is my commitment to being 308 00:11:46,289 --> 00:11:47,110 people centered 309 00:11:47,649 --> 00:11:49,990 and focusing on the human element 310 00:11:50,664 --> 00:11:52,924 of this work that we do every day. 311 00:11:52,985 --> 00:11:54,664 I I believe so much of what we 312 00:11:54,664 --> 00:11:57,705 do, especially in health care, but especially in 313 00:11:57,705 --> 00:12:01,144 a senior leadership role is human centered, and 314 00:12:01,144 --> 00:12:04,009 we must connect to the human element in 315 00:12:04,009 --> 00:12:06,509 order to drive operational excellence. 316 00:12:07,529 --> 00:12:09,129 Yeah. I think it's such an important point 317 00:12:09,129 --> 00:12:11,129 as we deal with emerging technology, you know, 318 00:12:11,129 --> 00:12:12,730 in health care now to to to make 319 00:12:12,730 --> 00:12:14,570 sure we're staying people focused. I think it's 320 00:12:14,570 --> 00:12:16,748 a a great perspective. And, Disha, thank you 321 00:12:16,748 --> 00:12:18,428 so much for a great conversation and for 322 00:12:18,428 --> 00:12:20,108 joining us on the podcast. Look forward to 323 00:12:20,108 --> 00:12:22,188 working with you again soon. Thank you. It's 324 00:12:22,188 --> 00:12:23,408 certainly been my pleasure.