1 00:00:01,919 --> 00:00:04,500 This is where health care leadership comes together. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,679 Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500 3 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:10,880 hospital and health system executives and nearly 800 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,019 speakers to Chicago 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,259 April. 6 00:00:14,615 --> 00:00:17,335 This year's event includes keynote conversations with Dallas 7 00:00:17,335 --> 00:00:20,214 Cowboys legend Troy Aikman and former president George 8 00:00:20,214 --> 00:00:22,934 w Bush. For the agenda and event details, 9 00:00:22,934 --> 00:00:25,175 visit beckershospitalreview.com 10 00:00:25,175 --> 00:00:26,855 and click on the events tab in the 11 00:00:26,855 --> 00:00:29,494 upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you 12 00:00:29,494 --> 00:00:30,449 in Chicago. 13 00:00:31,870 --> 00:00:34,109 This is Laura Dierda with the Becker's Healthcare 14 00:00:34,109 --> 00:00:36,350 podcast. I'm thrilled today to be joined by 15 00:00:36,350 --> 00:00:39,149 doctor Erica Powell, vice president of medical affairs 16 00:00:39,149 --> 00:00:42,030 at Welspun Ephrata Community Hospital. Doctor Powell, it's 17 00:00:42,030 --> 00:00:43,310 a pleasure to have you on the podcast 18 00:00:43,310 --> 00:00:46,105 today. Thank you, Laura. I am excited to 19 00:00:46,105 --> 00:00:48,265 be here and share a little bit about 20 00:00:48,265 --> 00:00:50,505 myself and WellSpan and and some of the 21 00:00:50,505 --> 00:00:53,804 things that are facing health care in 2026. 22 00:00:54,745 --> 00:00:56,984 Fantastic. Well, I I'm excited about this too. 23 00:00:56,984 --> 00:00:58,469 I mean, I think there's so much in 24 00:00:58,469 --> 00:01:00,070 health care. It's such a dynamic space, and 25 00:01:00,070 --> 00:01:02,070 so I'm looking forward to spotlighting some of 26 00:01:02,070 --> 00:01:03,590 the things you're doing. But before we dive 27 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:04,549 in, can you tell us a little bit 28 00:01:04,549 --> 00:01:06,090 more about yourself in the hospital? 29 00:01:07,030 --> 00:01:09,689 Yeah. So I'm an emergency physician by training, 30 00:01:09,989 --> 00:01:11,829 but have been in a leadership role for 31 00:01:11,829 --> 00:01:13,049 about twenty years, 32 00:01:13,875 --> 00:01:16,354 in various positions. But my current role really 33 00:01:16,354 --> 00:01:16,854 is 34 00:01:17,314 --> 00:01:19,875 to oversee the quality and safety along with 35 00:01:19,875 --> 00:01:21,015 the dyad partner, 36 00:01:21,394 --> 00:01:23,974 at WellSpan Ephrata Community Hospital. 37 00:01:24,435 --> 00:01:27,494 WellSpan is an integrated community based health system 38 00:01:27,634 --> 00:01:30,119 that that serves Central Pennsylvania and Northern Maryland. 39 00:01:30,739 --> 00:01:32,359 We have about 23,000 40 00:01:32,420 --> 00:01:35,780 team members, eight hospitals, and a comprehensive network 41 00:01:35,780 --> 00:01:36,280 of 42 00:01:36,579 --> 00:01:39,319 ambulatory specialty and behavioral health services. 43 00:01:40,265 --> 00:01:43,704 We're really here to provide exceptional personalized care 44 00:01:43,704 --> 00:01:45,484 and inspire hope in communities. 45 00:01:46,745 --> 00:01:49,385 Our real focus is on clinical excellence and 46 00:01:49,385 --> 00:01:49,885 innovation 47 00:01:50,584 --> 00:01:51,885 with the goal of delivering 48 00:01:52,344 --> 00:01:53,805 high value health services, 49 00:01:54,265 --> 00:01:55,165 to the community. 50 00:01:56,519 --> 00:01:58,040 That's great to hear. And, you know, a 51 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:00,280 huge, huge and important responsibility that you have 52 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,079 within the community to, make sure you're having 53 00:02:03,079 --> 00:02:04,920 that access to care and continue to providing 54 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:06,920 great outcomes. Now if you think back the 55 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:07,420 last 56 00:02:07,734 --> 00:02:09,175 year or so, could you tell us about 57 00:02:09,175 --> 00:02:10,935 the most important initiative that you led? What 58 00:02:10,935 --> 00:02:12,314 did you do, and what were the result? 59 00:02:13,254 --> 00:02:15,175 One of the big initiatives that we led 60 00:02:15,175 --> 00:02:16,875 was around length of stay 61 00:02:17,175 --> 00:02:19,735 and really how do we align clinical quality 62 00:02:19,735 --> 00:02:20,555 and operational 63 00:02:21,469 --> 00:02:23,810 across the entire cube care division 64 00:02:24,189 --> 00:02:24,689 focusing 65 00:02:25,150 --> 00:02:27,250 on patient flow, reducing variability, 66 00:02:27,870 --> 00:02:30,669 and strengthening physician engagements. I mean, some of 67 00:02:30,669 --> 00:02:32,930 the key components to that are interdisciplinary 68 00:02:33,709 --> 00:02:34,209 rounds, 69 00:02:34,974 --> 00:02:37,235 managing care escalation pathways, 70 00:02:37,694 --> 00:02:39,395 and really improving documentation 71 00:02:40,094 --> 00:02:43,055 accuracy to support the quality and financial integrity 72 00:02:43,055 --> 00:02:45,855 of our system. And what that really has 73 00:02:45,855 --> 00:02:46,835 led to is 74 00:02:47,169 --> 00:02:47,669 reducible, 75 00:02:47,969 --> 00:02:49,030 avoidable variation 76 00:02:49,330 --> 00:02:52,229 in length of stay across multiple service lines, 77 00:02:52,769 --> 00:02:53,590 better metrics, 78 00:02:54,449 --> 00:02:55,909 in ED to, 79 00:02:56,610 --> 00:02:57,909 admission, in 80 00:02:58,209 --> 00:02:59,829 overall length of stay. 81 00:03:00,129 --> 00:03:01,030 But the real 82 00:03:01,435 --> 00:03:03,834 beauty of focusing in on this was the 83 00:03:03,834 --> 00:03:04,974 strength in collaboration 84 00:03:05,275 --> 00:03:06,414 between operations, 85 00:03:06,794 --> 00:03:08,254 nursing, and medical leadership. 86 00:03:09,354 --> 00:03:10,954 And this when you get sort of the 87 00:03:10,954 --> 00:03:13,834 whole team engaged in this, it really helped 88 00:03:13,834 --> 00:03:14,814 us to deliver 89 00:03:15,569 --> 00:03:17,750 high reliable patient centered care 90 00:03:18,129 --> 00:03:19,750 while managing our capacity 91 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:21,430 much more effectively. 92 00:03:22,610 --> 00:03:24,610 That's helpful to understand and, you know, really 93 00:03:24,610 --> 00:03:26,530 great that you've been able to make, 94 00:03:27,409 --> 00:03:29,729 movement and measurable impact on some of those 95 00:03:29,729 --> 00:03:30,949 things. I think especially, 96 00:03:32,424 --> 00:03:34,824 having that overall length of stay be managed 97 00:03:34,824 --> 00:03:35,884 closely is critical, 98 00:03:36,664 --> 00:03:39,784 because capacity continues for many hospitals and systems 99 00:03:39,784 --> 00:03:42,185 to be constrained right now. I think, you 100 00:03:42,185 --> 00:03:43,625 know, when you were looking at, 101 00:03:44,449 --> 00:03:45,110 those interdisciplinary 102 00:03:45,489 --> 00:03:46,930 rounds, can you tell us a little bit 103 00:03:46,930 --> 00:03:49,650 more about that, what really occurs during those, 104 00:03:50,129 --> 00:03:52,769 conversations that has moved the needle in making 105 00:03:52,769 --> 00:03:54,370 a difference on some of the metrics you 106 00:03:54,370 --> 00:03:55,030 talked about? 107 00:03:55,889 --> 00:03:57,729 One of the things that we sat down 108 00:03:57,729 --> 00:03:59,784 as a health system to do is to 109 00:03:59,784 --> 00:04:01,165 put together a playbook. 110 00:04:01,784 --> 00:04:04,504 What are those best practices that are really 111 00:04:04,504 --> 00:04:05,564 going to 112 00:04:05,944 --> 00:04:08,504 help us move the needle? And by creating 113 00:04:08,504 --> 00:04:10,905 that playbook for the health system, not just 114 00:04:10,905 --> 00:04:13,449 the individual hospital I work at, we were 115 00:04:13,449 --> 00:04:14,069 really successful 116 00:04:14,930 --> 00:04:16,389 at creating standardized 117 00:04:16,850 --> 00:04:18,230 processes and strategies. 118 00:04:18,930 --> 00:04:20,310 One of those was multidisciplinary 119 00:04:21,250 --> 00:04:21,750 rounds. 120 00:04:22,290 --> 00:04:23,029 And so 121 00:04:23,410 --> 00:04:26,324 at each entity, we have a standard for 122 00:04:26,324 --> 00:04:26,985 that work 123 00:04:27,285 --> 00:04:29,204 and what it should look like. And we're 124 00:04:29,204 --> 00:04:32,345 really focused in on geometric length of stay 125 00:04:32,805 --> 00:04:35,365 and how we are addressing that for each 126 00:04:35,365 --> 00:04:35,865 patient 127 00:04:36,245 --> 00:04:38,564 in their care continuum. And by doing that 128 00:04:38,564 --> 00:04:39,949 with each patient 129 00:04:40,569 --> 00:04:41,389 at every 130 00:04:41,769 --> 00:04:44,009 one of our eight hospitals, we were really 131 00:04:44,009 --> 00:04:46,829 able to identify what are the true barriers 132 00:04:47,209 --> 00:04:49,689 to getting a patient through the system. And 133 00:04:49,689 --> 00:04:53,115 so some key opportunities came up for each 134 00:04:53,115 --> 00:04:55,275 of our hospitals that were similar, and then 135 00:04:55,275 --> 00:04:56,254 we could solve, 136 00:04:56,955 --> 00:04:58,495 to root for those barriers 137 00:04:59,035 --> 00:04:59,995 and put new, 138 00:05:00,395 --> 00:05:03,035 countermeasures in in place that help us to 139 00:05:03,035 --> 00:05:05,275 be successful. And I'll just give you, 140 00:05:05,915 --> 00:05:06,895 a quick example. 141 00:05:07,829 --> 00:05:10,569 We realized that we had some delay with 142 00:05:10,949 --> 00:05:11,449 processing 143 00:05:11,910 --> 00:05:13,529 how we use our consultants. 144 00:05:14,069 --> 00:05:17,050 And so we really worked hard to identify 145 00:05:18,470 --> 00:05:19,209 how we 146 00:05:19,589 --> 00:05:20,729 order the consultation, 147 00:05:21,189 --> 00:05:22,490 how it gets completed, 148 00:05:22,790 --> 00:05:24,625 and really streamline that streamline that documentation 149 00:05:25,004 --> 00:05:27,024 so that now we have a 150 00:05:27,485 --> 00:05:29,564 dashboard where we can sort of see how 151 00:05:29,564 --> 00:05:32,625 our consultants are engaging with our hospital teams 152 00:05:32,925 --> 00:05:35,425 in order to improve that that throughput. 153 00:05:36,050 --> 00:05:38,610 And by adding an escalation pathway, that really 154 00:05:38,610 --> 00:05:40,069 was the turbo boost 155 00:05:40,529 --> 00:05:43,589 around making sure that the people who needed 156 00:05:43,649 --> 00:05:44,790 additional resources 157 00:05:45,170 --> 00:05:47,490 from other team members were able to get 158 00:05:47,490 --> 00:05:48,470 them in the fashion. 159 00:05:49,675 --> 00:05:51,435 That's helpful to understand. Thank you so much, 160 00:05:51,435 --> 00:05:53,115 doctor Powell, for digging a little bit deeper 161 00:05:53,115 --> 00:05:54,875 there. Now looking ahead, what are some of 162 00:05:54,875 --> 00:05:56,955 your big priorities and headwinds that you're focused 163 00:05:56,955 --> 00:05:58,335 on for 2026? 164 00:05:59,275 --> 00:06:02,014 I think, like, every hospital workforce stabilization 165 00:06:02,395 --> 00:06:04,975 and optimization are going to be key. 166 00:06:05,639 --> 00:06:08,139 We need to ensure that we attract, retain, 167 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,560 support clinical talent while addressing burnout and the 168 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:13,420 complexities in clinical practice. 169 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,459 I think everyone's sort of focused on 170 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:18,620 how we can improve 171 00:06:19,584 --> 00:06:20,724 the use of technology 172 00:06:21,264 --> 00:06:21,764 to 173 00:06:22,144 --> 00:06:22,644 stabilize, 174 00:06:23,504 --> 00:06:25,365 and optimize our workforce. 175 00:06:25,824 --> 00:06:27,925 The other piece that I'm really 176 00:06:28,464 --> 00:06:31,104 interested in focusing on is value based care 177 00:06:31,104 --> 00:06:31,604 performance 178 00:06:31,970 --> 00:06:34,470 and really being able to deliver high quality 179 00:06:34,610 --> 00:06:36,949 outcomes at a lower cost using data, 180 00:06:37,970 --> 00:06:41,089 that supports care redesign. And I think between 181 00:06:41,089 --> 00:06:42,149 these two things, 182 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:45,509 we're gonna put a lot of energy into 183 00:06:46,704 --> 00:06:48,324 optimizing both pathways, 184 00:06:49,504 --> 00:06:51,444 to get a different different product 185 00:06:52,305 --> 00:06:54,004 without losing sight of 186 00:06:54,384 --> 00:06:57,185 the patient experience. And and that always is 187 00:06:57,185 --> 00:06:58,084 first of mine 188 00:06:58,544 --> 00:06:59,685 is the patient. 189 00:07:00,819 --> 00:07:02,500 Got it. That's helpful to know. And, you 190 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:05,220 know, I love the ability to keep focus 191 00:07:05,220 --> 00:07:07,540 on what's happening with the patient, the patient 192 00:07:07,540 --> 00:07:09,699 experience, those outcomes, and making sure they have 193 00:07:09,699 --> 00:07:11,939 quality care. And to your point in looking 194 00:07:11,939 --> 00:07:14,180 at the transition to more of the value 195 00:07:14,180 --> 00:07:17,035 based care performance, looking at ways that you 196 00:07:17,035 --> 00:07:19,134 can get the best possible outcome, 197 00:07:19,675 --> 00:07:20,574 for the patients. 198 00:07:20,954 --> 00:07:22,735 I I'm curious. How are you approaching, 199 00:07:23,514 --> 00:07:25,115 that type of of, 200 00:07:25,834 --> 00:07:28,875 transformation thinking through not only the technology that 201 00:07:28,875 --> 00:07:30,714 you'll have to to get that in place, 202 00:07:30,714 --> 00:07:31,535 but then also, 203 00:07:32,180 --> 00:07:34,660 you know, having it be part of a 204 00:07:34,660 --> 00:07:35,240 a broader, 205 00:07:35,699 --> 00:07:37,620 shift in the way that you're thinking about 206 00:07:37,620 --> 00:07:39,160 care and care models. 207 00:07:40,500 --> 00:07:42,819 One of the things if you're gonna endeavor 208 00:07:42,819 --> 00:07:45,939 to do this work is to understand what 209 00:07:45,939 --> 00:07:47,479 your data's telling you 210 00:07:47,834 --> 00:07:49,454 about your community, 211 00:07:49,754 --> 00:07:52,415 about your hospital, about your practices, 212 00:07:52,954 --> 00:07:55,675 and then really leveraging that data to different 213 00:07:55,675 --> 00:07:56,175 outcomes. 214 00:07:57,754 --> 00:08:00,555 Every hospital is going to have some unique 215 00:08:00,555 --> 00:08:02,415 barriers in order to deliver 216 00:08:02,949 --> 00:08:03,449 amazing 217 00:08:03,830 --> 00:08:04,889 care at, 218 00:08:06,149 --> 00:08:07,770 a good cost. And so 219 00:08:08,310 --> 00:08:10,330 one of the things that I feel like, 220 00:08:11,110 --> 00:08:13,910 needs to happen in this space is to 221 00:08:13,910 --> 00:08:16,089 have good data analytic tools 222 00:08:16,474 --> 00:08:19,055 to be able to understand where your unique 223 00:08:19,115 --> 00:08:21,774 barriers are. And and, again, I'm an examples 224 00:08:21,995 --> 00:08:23,055 person. So 225 00:08:23,675 --> 00:08:25,754 one of the things that we've done in 226 00:08:25,754 --> 00:08:27,694 this space is really to 227 00:08:28,394 --> 00:08:28,894 understand 228 00:08:29,514 --> 00:08:30,735 down to the DRG 229 00:08:31,550 --> 00:08:35,230 how our physicians are diagnosing certain types of 230 00:08:35,230 --> 00:08:35,730 illnesses 231 00:08:36,190 --> 00:08:37,409 and where are the opportunities 232 00:08:37,950 --> 00:08:39,250 to create standardization 233 00:08:40,190 --> 00:08:41,409 in care pathways. 234 00:08:42,509 --> 00:08:44,350 We need all of our physicians to speak 235 00:08:44,350 --> 00:08:45,330 the same language, 236 00:08:46,125 --> 00:08:48,065 to understand the impact, 237 00:08:48,764 --> 00:08:49,825 of their documentation, 238 00:08:50,524 --> 00:08:52,625 and how we leverage that to, 239 00:08:53,404 --> 00:08:55,725 better outcomes for the patient. So we've really 240 00:08:55,725 --> 00:08:57,825 worked hard to implement 241 00:08:58,445 --> 00:08:58,945 ERAS, 242 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:03,720 COVD pathways, heart failure pathways so that everybody's 243 00:09:03,860 --> 00:09:05,240 getting the same excellent 244 00:09:05,860 --> 00:09:07,399 high quality care, 245 00:09:07,860 --> 00:09:09,720 and we're also able to manage 246 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:11,399 those cost pressures 247 00:09:11,860 --> 00:09:12,600 that exist 248 00:09:12,980 --> 00:09:14,040 for all of us. 249 00:09:14,875 --> 00:09:16,715 That makes a lot of sense. It's helpful 250 00:09:16,715 --> 00:09:17,215 to, 251 00:09:17,675 --> 00:09:19,455 kind of get additional detail, 252 00:09:19,915 --> 00:09:21,754 around those things. I think it's something that 253 00:09:21,754 --> 00:09:23,754 so many organizations are dealing with right now 254 00:09:23,754 --> 00:09:26,315 and trying to wrap their heads around. So 255 00:09:26,315 --> 00:09:28,154 thank you for some of the your insight 256 00:09:28,154 --> 00:09:29,309 and perspective on it. 257 00:09:29,870 --> 00:09:31,549 What do you see as being the hardest 258 00:09:31,549 --> 00:09:32,750 thing you'll have to do in the coming 259 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:34,210 year? What do you think that will be? 260 00:09:34,909 --> 00:09:37,889 I think for anybody in health care leadership, 261 00:09:37,950 --> 00:09:39,870 one of the toughest things that we do 262 00:09:39,870 --> 00:09:42,750 is balancing short term operational needs with long 263 00:09:42,750 --> 00:09:44,370 term transformation work 264 00:09:44,855 --> 00:09:47,355 that we can't afford to slow down. So 265 00:09:48,055 --> 00:09:49,434 many of us spend time 266 00:09:50,055 --> 00:09:52,774 working day to day on the small things 267 00:09:52,774 --> 00:09:54,455 that are in front of us, but there's 268 00:09:54,455 --> 00:09:56,695 a lot of real work out there and 269 00:09:56,695 --> 00:09:57,754 the pace of change 270 00:09:58,350 --> 00:10:00,269 is exceptional. And we need to be able 271 00:10:00,269 --> 00:10:03,070 to lead people through that, support them, motivate 272 00:10:03,070 --> 00:10:03,570 them, 273 00:10:04,269 --> 00:10:07,389 and make some tough decisions about priorities, which 274 00:10:07,389 --> 00:10:07,889 takes 275 00:10:08,269 --> 00:10:09,409 a lot of communication, 276 00:10:09,950 --> 00:10:11,169 clarity, and empathy. 277 00:10:11,629 --> 00:10:12,370 And so 278 00:10:13,144 --> 00:10:14,684 I would just sort of reiterate 279 00:10:15,705 --> 00:10:17,945 that it's easy to get lost in the 280 00:10:17,945 --> 00:10:20,024 day to day when you know that the 281 00:10:20,024 --> 00:10:20,524 overall 282 00:10:21,865 --> 00:10:23,485 opportunities for organizational 283 00:10:24,345 --> 00:10:27,065 growth and stability lie in that longer term 284 00:10:27,065 --> 00:10:27,565 transformation 285 00:10:27,945 --> 00:10:28,445 work. 286 00:10:29,210 --> 00:10:30,570 Well, doctor Powell, that makes a lot of 287 00:10:30,570 --> 00:10:32,009 sense. And I I know there's a lot 288 00:10:32,009 --> 00:10:33,450 going on right now in the health care 289 00:10:33,450 --> 00:10:35,850 space to both think long term, big picture 290 00:10:35,850 --> 00:10:38,170 strategically as well as getting things done on 291 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:40,809 a daily basis. Now from your perspective, as 292 00:10:40,809 --> 00:10:41,870 you're thinking about 293 00:10:42,294 --> 00:10:44,215 leaders in the health care space, emerging leaders, 294 00:10:44,215 --> 00:10:46,134 and more, what advice would you have for 295 00:10:46,134 --> 00:10:48,294 them to really be successful as they're going 296 00:10:48,294 --> 00:10:49,835 throughout their own leadership journeys? 297 00:10:51,014 --> 00:10:53,975 Laura, that's a great question. As I did 298 00:10:53,975 --> 00:10:55,735 on what I need to get done in 299 00:10:55,735 --> 00:10:56,855 2026, 300 00:10:56,855 --> 00:10:58,980 one of the things is to lead with 301 00:10:58,980 --> 00:11:01,160 clarity. People really are overwhelmed, 302 00:11:01,540 --> 00:11:04,019 and ambiguity is the enemy. I mean, we 303 00:11:04,019 --> 00:11:05,639 need to set fewer priorities, 304 00:11:06,340 --> 00:11:09,800 communicate them consistently, and reinforce them relentlessly. 305 00:11:10,660 --> 00:11:13,240 It's just getting back to the basics, 306 00:11:13,964 --> 00:11:16,384 in a very real way. So 307 00:11:16,924 --> 00:11:18,684 in other words, like, we need to go 308 00:11:18,684 --> 00:11:20,944 slower in order to move faster. I think 309 00:11:21,164 --> 00:11:22,944 sometimes the pace of change 310 00:11:23,404 --> 00:11:24,464 in health care 311 00:11:24,924 --> 00:11:27,720 is so exceptional that it just overwhelms 312 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:28,919 our frontline 313 00:11:29,220 --> 00:11:29,960 team members, 314 00:11:30,980 --> 00:11:31,799 and leaders 315 00:11:32,259 --> 00:11:35,059 in order to get done. And then as 316 00:11:35,059 --> 00:11:37,299 I sort of weave through this, we need 317 00:11:37,299 --> 00:11:38,279 to prioritize 318 00:11:38,995 --> 00:11:41,715 patient connection in every initiative. I mean, the 319 00:11:41,715 --> 00:11:43,575 reason we went into health care, 320 00:11:44,595 --> 00:11:47,394 really was about the patient. And we need 321 00:11:47,394 --> 00:11:49,894 to ask ourselves, does it make it easier, 322 00:11:49,955 --> 00:11:50,455 safer, 323 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,539 or more humane for our patients and families? 324 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,519 And if it really doesn't, then we need 325 00:11:55,519 --> 00:11:56,500 to take a pause 326 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,419 and wonder whether this is the right pathway 327 00:12:00,879 --> 00:12:02,500 to go down. And so 328 00:12:03,039 --> 00:12:05,379 I just would say to anybody who's 329 00:12:05,904 --> 00:12:06,725 going to be 330 00:12:07,264 --> 00:12:09,745 leading, in health care in 2026 331 00:12:09,745 --> 00:12:12,245 is we've gotta be more 332 00:12:12,625 --> 00:12:14,644 transparent about the tough stuff 333 00:12:15,024 --> 00:12:15,845 and really 334 00:12:16,144 --> 00:12:16,644 protect 335 00:12:17,585 --> 00:12:19,044 how we're doing things 336 00:12:19,745 --> 00:12:21,044 in terms of 337 00:12:22,199 --> 00:12:23,740 just being clear 338 00:12:24,279 --> 00:12:27,480 and concise and to the point until we 339 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,759 build, you know, a new muscle in terms 340 00:12:30,759 --> 00:12:32,220 of our leadership, 341 00:12:33,159 --> 00:12:33,980 skill set. 342 00:12:34,684 --> 00:12:36,404 Fantastic. Now where do you see some of 343 00:12:36,404 --> 00:12:39,164 the best opportunities for organizational growth? I don't 344 00:12:39,164 --> 00:12:42,044 think leveraging digital tools and virtual care are 345 00:12:42,044 --> 00:12:44,144 gonna both help patients and clinicians. 346 00:12:44,764 --> 00:12:47,084 As we know, particularly on the physician side, 347 00:12:47,084 --> 00:12:48,625 there are multiple specialty 348 00:12:49,084 --> 00:12:49,584 gaps 349 00:12:50,190 --> 00:12:52,769 across the country in in various regions, 350 00:12:53,230 --> 00:12:54,929 and we're really gonna need to 351 00:12:55,389 --> 00:12:58,529 make work efficient for those individuals 352 00:12:59,070 --> 00:13:00,990 who are in the specialty, who wanna be 353 00:13:00,990 --> 00:13:03,625 able to help as many people as possible, 354 00:13:04,085 --> 00:13:05,705 but may not be located 355 00:13:06,485 --> 00:13:09,445 exactly nearby. So being able to start, like, 356 00:13:09,445 --> 00:13:10,424 virtual dermatology 357 00:13:10,884 --> 00:13:14,565 and virtual rheumatology, which are specialties that we 358 00:13:14,565 --> 00:13:17,384 struggle with across the country in various 359 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:18,360 areas 360 00:13:18,740 --> 00:13:20,679 are gonna be key to 361 00:13:21,139 --> 00:13:23,940 being able to deliver those patient outcomes that 362 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:25,540 I talked about, 363 00:13:26,019 --> 00:13:28,279 earlier. I also think that, 364 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:31,799 we're gonna need to focus on building strategic 365 00:13:31,940 --> 00:13:32,440 partnerships, 366 00:13:33,464 --> 00:13:37,404 to improve care integration and support population health. 367 00:13:37,705 --> 00:13:39,144 As we know, the pace, 368 00:13:40,024 --> 00:13:41,725 the population is aging, 369 00:13:42,585 --> 00:13:44,985 at a significant rate, and I think we're 370 00:13:44,985 --> 00:13:46,284 going to need to 371 00:13:46,899 --> 00:13:49,620 be able to work with people outside of 372 00:13:49,620 --> 00:13:51,480 our individual health systems 373 00:13:51,940 --> 00:13:53,860 to make sure that we're able to support 374 00:13:53,860 --> 00:13:55,240 those patient outcomes 375 00:13:55,779 --> 00:13:58,120 both inside and outside of, 376 00:13:58,995 --> 00:13:59,735 our organization. 377 00:14:00,434 --> 00:14:02,455 And that whole community wellness 378 00:14:02,914 --> 00:14:05,955 kind of lens is gonna be critical to 379 00:14:05,955 --> 00:14:07,575 the success of health care. 380 00:14:08,674 --> 00:14:10,355 I love that. Doctor Powell, thank you so 381 00:14:10,355 --> 00:14:11,875 much for joining us on the podcast today. 382 00:14:11,875 --> 00:14:13,975 This has been such an informative conversation. 383 00:14:14,830 --> 00:14:16,750 You know, I I really appreciate everything that 384 00:14:16,750 --> 00:14:18,509 you're doing and and the passion that you 385 00:14:18,509 --> 00:14:20,269 bring, to health care, and I look forward 386 00:14:20,269 --> 00:14:21,789 to seeing you as well at our annual 387 00:14:21,789 --> 00:14:23,629 meeting. I know that you'll be speaking on 388 00:14:23,629 --> 00:14:24,990 a panel there, and so it'll be great 389 00:14:24,990 --> 00:14:26,830 to connect in person and and continue the 390 00:14:26,830 --> 00:14:27,330 conversation. 391 00:14:28,904 --> 00:14:31,945 That's awesome, Laura. I appreciate the opportunity to 392 00:14:31,945 --> 00:14:33,865 be able to share some of my insights 393 00:14:33,865 --> 00:14:37,304 here about what WellSpan is doing. I'm looking 394 00:14:37,304 --> 00:14:39,325 forward to connecting with my colleagues, 395 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:41,779 at the conference in Chicago. 396 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,240 It's always an exciting time to be able 397 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,960 to hear and listen and learn from some 398 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:48,660 of the best in the in the country.