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Champagne sharks, champagne sharks. How's is everybody doing?
This is Kenny. West Coast edition. The West
Coast edition, everybody's been asking.
Everybody's been asking for the West Coast sharks.
We haven't done 1 in my goodness probably
the pandemic. It's been a minute, bro. Been
the mid. Yeah. It's definitely been better. I
think the last 1 you and I did
together.
I think we tried to do 1 1
night and it just you
is Yeah. Technology. Yeah. That was a while
ago. That was that was quite a few
ago. And then I think we did 1...
Yeah. I like the 1 we did when
we were talking about that Evil the the
the Tv series Evil? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
When we were talking about, like, the sell
shit that was going on with that particular.
Said that that was just me you, but
even that was like... 3 4 years That
was at least 2 3 years ago. The
original the original West coast
episode happened in 20 20 or 20 19.
That was no first 1 that we did.
And that 1 was really deep. That 1
was really dead. And I think of the
reason why a lot of people liked that
episode is 1, you never really get a
West coast perspective from Black folks that ain't
on the bullshit. You know I'm saying? That
it's very it's it's very rare that you'll
get authenticity that doesn't involve
whether it's the typical weather coast stuff people
know about. You know what I'm saying? Whether
there's game bang, rap, you know, stuff like
that Like, you know,
I tell people all the time, Like, growing
up, Being born in California but then being
raised in Portland. Like, Talked to Vid on
the phone the other day. And I told
her Said, I don't really tell people that
where I'm from because I was raised here.
You what Saying? I was raised in Portland
Oregon, but I was raised in pre
Portland Oregon, which is a different world. In
completely different world than than the world that
Portland is right now. So the way I
see things is gonna be very similar to
the way a lot of people in pre
Seattle, Preacher 5 San Francisco and La. You
know, also southern in California, it it was
really... We marched to the beat of the
La drum. You know what I'm saying where
there was music, politics, a lot of things
that black folks on the West Coast we
connected, and it's funny because there's a African
American
this it's called the Pacific Northwest African American
Museum. Is in Seattle. And this museum is
1 of those you're here too. Every here.
See has a African American history museum but
go ahead. Well, Portland Portland ain't got 1.
But that... I I digress. Yeah. Maybe maybe
1 day. Maybe 1 day. You know. But
in Seattle, they have 1. And it shows
how when Black folks came to the West
coast during both migrations that we went to
1 of 5 different places. Southern California, the
Bay Area, Portland, Tacoma, Seattle. You know Saying?
So we're all connected. You know, But I
also think that a lot of people don't
realize
How we process things
mentally. You know what I'm saying on the
West Coast as a as a black man
and as as black people. We process process
things a little differently than other places. And
we get the hate. You know what I'm
saying? We hear a lot of... I hear
a lot of. I see a lot of
it on social media, and I think a
lot of it is jealousy
I think a lot of times, people wish.
I ain't gonna say they wish they lived
out here, but there is there is some
benefits that's living out here. You know what
when we talk about weather, know what Saying
things like that. There is some benefits to
it, but I noticed that and I wanna
know what you think about this. I noticed
that a lot of people really focus on
the whole fact that, you they think that
brothers out here just have access to white
women and Mexican women and Asia asian. We're
like, we just just dating everybody. We just,
you know, we just got a buffet line
of women.
That we get you just run through. You
know don't say just don't live out here.
Well, I think I think part of the
problem is that,
you know, Hollywood plays a big role in
that. Right? When you talk about movies when
you talk about the entertainment industry. Even when
you throw in the music industry, it puts
out certain messages, it puts out a certain,
rather it's subliminal or outright, you get the
image of the West coast, California in particular.
And then southern California,
just super in particular,
la has just 1 big dot cotton So
on 1 end, you got just nothing but
hood nigga. And then on the other end,
is Hollywood, and then there's just celebrities walking
around everywhere. Where the truth of the matter
is, man like, when you get here,
oftentimes your
expectations are not gonna be met because it's
not like that you know what I'm saying?
Hollywood ain't Hollywood. Bro. It really you it's
not Hollywood is not a cool place. It's
a cool place to hang out. You if
you know the right people and things like
that. But when you actually go to Hollywood,
and I'm out there on a regular basis.
It's not what you think it is. You're
not gonna walk around and see select Murphy.
Yeah. You're not that... That's just not how
it is, bro. And as far as like
the gangs, you actually have to go.
Specific to specific areas to get around boys
in the hood. You know what I'm. Yeah.
Yeah. I think the perception of people that
are not from here due to media due
to music, all of that. Is
everywhere is either, you know, universal studios or
is boys in the hood and administer to
society with in fact it's not like that.
The majority of it is a lot more
complex than that,
you go to the hood in Los Angeles
and to someone from
Alabama or certain parts New York, certain parts
of new Jersey, that shit looks lip like
nigga just the hood. Like what. Yeah. And
then... But you just don't understand, like, because
it may look a certain once way, the
level of danger is still on 10. You
know what I mean? Yeah. And I I
think that throws a lot of people off
when they get here. Now as far as
like, the biased, though. I I don't I
don't know where that specifically comes from.
I think you still a lot now really
You didn't you you didn't use to see
it back in the day. You really didn't
and you know what's was funny is it's
funny you was saying that about,
how people see la. I reminds me at
Beverly Hills cop. Like, when Axel Foley, I
I don't know I don't know if anybody
ever caught this about Beverly hills cop. He
drove that ragged and he has an nova
all the way from detroit the La.
Do you ever you ever think about that?
Because remember when he met with
his home girl. She asked him what he
was driving, and he said he was still
driving The nova, and he was... He really
was. And it didn't to you're they're like,
damn, doesn't make a really job that shit
let them detroit, But I think that's that's
the joke within the joke. You know what
I'm saying? Right. Right But when he gets
to when he gets to hollywood to beverly
court unquote Beverly Hills, which ain't that big.
It's almost like he's driving all around La.
You what Saying Like. Right Beverly Hills is
this huge place, and I don't think people
understand that Beverly Hills ain't that far away
from the hood, not at all. If if
anything,
you're you're you're
you'll be amazed by how much damn traffic
you gonna be in if anything. Yeah. You
know 1 of the things that told me
to your point? That people don't really understand
the geography of Los Angeles is when people
talk about the the Rodney king riots, and
they they go to the infamous you know,
Korean
rooftop Korean. Yeah. Yeah You see, you know,
the Koreans defending their shops during the rise.
People literally think that, that was in the
hood where that was going on.
That shit was not in South Central Los
Angeles at all.
Some of their liquor stores are in South
Central Los Angeles, but the footage that you've
seen is actually closer to, like, the Wi
district. Yeah. Like, it's closer to, like, Echo
Park and yeah is over beer. It's it's
it's a lot of Koreans and Mexicans over
that way. It's not really too many black
people over that way. And 1 of the
guys who was actually defending the property. He
told you. On camera. I I was talking
of find that interview. He literally said, I
didn't see no black people, the people know
nerd. Yeah. He said the people were shooting
that were Mexican. You literally said that on
fail. Yes. And they just kinda brush over
that part and... Well they what they do
is they call his names run around writing
in Korea town like, no. Wasn't nick, you
know, they always get that screenshot of them
on the rooftop with the with the rifles,
but they never show what's below them and
what was going on. And Right. And that's
another Think that's another thing is that a
lot... What, I'm a speak from a black
perspective, and Don't wanna speak for of black
people in other regions, but I'm just tell
you what it looks like the off. It's
where it looks like to me is, like,
I think sometimes
for us, like, our family members. I'm sure
you got family in the south that came
from the south. My family came from the
south
weeks. South. Yeah. But we've been out here
for 70 years. You know don't saying my
grandparents moved from the south and the thirties.
You know don't say 19 twenties, 19 thirties
Well, my, let me take that back. My
mom's side all came from the south my
dad's side, my biological father, they all came
from
new Jersey Oh, wow thought. Yeah. I down.
He's clarified at yeah. Yeah yeah. Oh, wow.
See so so being that we've been 3
generations removed from living in the south. Like,
I don't know. I might I might know
a couple relatives that's still living itself. I
I don't really know them though. You know
what I'm saying? That we went on, we
was looking for. Me and my dad was
looking for a relative for Memorial veterans day.
We have a cousin he fought the Korean
Warren and he was looking for his heads
stone at the, veteran's cemetery And we've stumbled
upon this whole family tree thing of these
family members that we don't know, but we
didn't... We don't know them because the last
names got changed because a marriage and all
the other kind of stuff,
and they're in, like, Detroit and places like
that, but we've never met. We don't know
them, but they are related to it us,
like straight blood. You know? Sure. And And
and
I think sometimes
because we're so removed from the south, I
think it gets miss cons to what is
even like living out here. For a lot
of black folks that live in the South.
Because if you live in the south in
places like Jackson, Mississippi, Birmingham,
Jacksonville,
even in Texas Houston. You pretty much can
go all day, and don't see no white.
You what Saying? You you ain't gotta worry
about not seeing no white people. You don't
see only your yourself. And when you only
see yourself. So when you only see yourself
and the things that happen is against each
other, whether it's crime, whether it's happiness is
pain, whatever, you start to think about... Think
about... Sometimes, I think a lot of people
think about how they can get away from
being around themselves. Right. So they think that
we just inter ming with white folks and
white people come, hey. But would you like
to call me? Here you go, buddy. Right.
Right. Just break coffee and shit. Like, they
ain't like that. You know what I'm saying?
So I think that... That's part of it.
I'm not gonna say it's jealousy. I think
it might be your curiosity, but also, I
do believe that a lot of this happened
because of celebrity and mainly Nigga like Kanye
West when they became popular to start Dayton
and married these racially ambiguous armenian look females
That's when a lot of them dudes was
like, man, hey, man. The fuck. Nigga because
on the west coast getting know these bad
bitches bro. We don't even know these bras,
but we don't know these people.
I. I took love.
But they all from out this way, though.
You know what You're saying. So when you
when you make it big as a West
Coast artist bro. You don't have to leave...
Well, back then. You didn't anyway. It's probably
a little different now, But you didn't have
to leave La to go. You could come
from the hood having never really been work
to the beach or anywhere nice, and you
make it big and wrapping her whatever or
sports. And you go to Cal. You go
to Hollywood Hills. You go to Laurel Canyon.
You go to fucking,
Pacific Palace sage and shit like that. And
it's like a whole different world. And it's
literally just 15 miles away shit. The team
miles like a whole different world for these
dudes and you get access to a totally
different caliber
of woman or, you know, romantic partner whatever
you're into, and you never really even have
to leave Los Angeles where other people come.
To be dating a woman that's not black.
That's not a feather name it's definitely not
a feather in your camp. That out here.
Right. Right. It's not a feather in your
cat, but it it it... I'll say that
and I was having this conversation with my
son. You know, he's interested in going into
the gaming and whatnot. Yeah. And he and
I had a very real conversation man. And
he just, like, you know, he's very dedicated
to being in with a black woman. Like,
he wants he's on this pro black thing,
and he wants to be with a black
woman. And I'm not... I'm not be, you
know, by saying he's on this pro black
thing. I'm I'm a hundred percent with him
on that. I, I'm not be believing that
at all. But... So during the course of
the conversation, I said, well, you know, you're
gonna have to be very intentional about dating
a black woman because in your industry, if
you don't
intentionally seek after black women. You are very
likely not gonna find black women.
Yeah. You what I'm saying, like, that's just...
You may come across a stray hair and
there, but Yeah...
Your everyday life, you're going to be working
with people who are not your skin tone.
Yeah. And his in his industry, absolutely. Right.
And so I think that's what it needs
to be taken to account. We talk about
these brothers that get with these different races
of women. Once they leave the hook, if
they ever lived in the hook because you
know, you do got black folks that were
just raised in Yeah. Cal and shit. My
and they were raised in chin Hills or
corona or whatever far removed from the hood.
Yeah. Out here. So you if you get
it to industries where when you move to
certain places. The demographics change bro like, it's
not many of us there. And most of
us are not thinking like, man. I gotta
give it a black Gotta get black. Gotta
get black. No. They have wife. And they're
gonna get where they're around and look around
and they're gonna see who they're with. And
when you're working closely with people on a
regular basis, sexual attraction is gonna happen, and
then you're gonna get with who you get
with. Know what I'm saying? That's just how
it naturally go. So I think people need
to take that into a consideration when you
talk about the dynamics of you know, who
these brothers start dating when they get to
certain places or whatnot. You gotta be very
intentional. Yes. If you wanna date, black women,
you don't have to go looking for Black
women. Look, I'm... Look,
and that's a lot of ended. Look. I'm
in the education industry. I hate to call
it the industry, but I'm in that educational
system. Right. And it doesn't matter... Where You
know, in unless I'm living in Atlanta or,
Dallas Texas used in in New Orleans. It's
gonna be predominantly white. You know I'm saying?
The school I work at. I'm 1 of
2 black people. And the other black person
is a the 75 year old black.
Okay? He's married to a black woman, but
it's just it's 1 of those things where
you be like them. You know what Saying?
And, you know, we always have we we
all have these initiatives about we need more
black teachers, we we need more black administrators
that duh. And, you know, for whatever reason,
much like the industry your son is going
into, much like engineering, just ain't a lot
of black people there. Yeah. You what I'm
saying? And I don't fault black men or
black women who date outside they race. If
that's what you wanna do. First of all,
I ain't got sleep with you Right. Right.
But with the saying who you eat what
you eat don't make me... Don't make me
shit. Sex with don't make me come. Yeah
Exactly. You know what Saying? I'm not gonna
assume that just because you dating a a
Mexican woman or whatever that you... You're anti
black. I'm not gonna assume that. You what
Saying? Yeah. Like you just said, at the
end of day, you still gotta live your
life. Mh. You know Saying? You have to
live your life and being and having such
sexual attraction to someone that you're attracted to
is normal. That's what you're supposed to do,
regardless of what your sexual orientation is. Whoever
you're gonna be attracted to who you're gonna
be attracted to? All that you're gonna do?
What your
doctor Walmart that do... That doctor Uma omar
bullshit.
It's bullshit bullshit. That's a car of what
it's like to be a black man or
a pro black. Person in the United States
of America. That's a car. That's not right.
Right. Right. Right. Because even he, that mother
motherfucker. I don't care what he say I
know a n that didn't slept with a
white 1 before I could smell it on.
K? He didn't collapse some white cheeks before.
Yeah. Yeah. He didn't clap white cheeks before.
That's why he got everybody running for the
hill. Telling him around for the heels. You
know what Saying because he got got stuck.
That's what it was. You know how you
know my philosophy. Road, Man, you talk... You
know my philosophy about people who who are
too much on like, you... You protested too
much. Yeah. You yeah. You...
I had to start looking at at you
bro. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's the people
that be there's something about that that you
lying. Saying Yeah the people that be... We've
seen this time of time again the biggest
opponents of certain
lifestyles,
social standing, social...
Sexual choices, be the ones that you gotta
watch. Just mh... I've learned that in life.
Bro, like, that's a real thing. Like, the
1 motherfuckers that be, you know, this like
super duper preaching against homosexual to the point
where it's just awkward like dude. Yes. Just
mixing it into everyday kind of a. I
nigga like, what's wrong with you. Yeah. And
nigga we talking about the lakers. You tell
my why 1 players look like he might
be was gay. Oh,
if her be partner purple code Purple was
k men don't wear part like, bro, we'll
start looking at you? You know what I'm
saying? Like, what what what is your porn
browser history shop? Funny.
Like I look and we and we know
that's true. And I've said this before in
the show. I think I said 8 years
ago, I remember being an undergrad in college.
And I this class called Mirage Intimacy, and
the number 1
selection on porn hub for,
white areas in the south was quote unquote
Ebony. Yep. And the number 1 consumers of
porn are white. Yeah. Know what I'm saying?
And as usually the people that's preach against
dating,
having sex, whatever, but they'd be usually the
1 watching the the the grimy, the... I
mean, I'm talking about, you look
hate to say like this. But you look
at the front covering it the, of course,
the black dude is always looking beast. You
know what I'm saying? If you know what
I mean? Sw Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You know
what I'm saying? Is is dick is is
is as long as the 10 freeway, and
you know what I'm saying? And it's a
white big. It's you know, said, the white
girl looked like she's, you know, barely 21,
like she ran away from home Very thin.
Yeah very always man. It ain't a big
thick right girl be No. You know what
I'm saying? That's the game that people play
on your mind. You know? Let's they say
games that people play. And be Having blonde
hair. You can't forget that's always. Always. You
know what I'm saying? So is is it's
just the way society has projected certain things
to be for you to think a certain
type of way. 1 really in the real
world, you know, I don't know what the
hell people be doing in their house when
Ain't there. You know what Saying? I don't
go to people house anyway. But I don't
know what people do when I'm not there
it's just it's just the way it is...
And I think the 0J0J
situation,
exacerbated a lot of this,
Mark Allen his weirdo as Marcus Allen and
his bullshit. It's a lot of its celebrity
of making people believe because I see a
lot of dudes going online. You know the
Brand black. Try to la White. You know
being too. Bro, I'm man, I'm I was
front line when that whole situation was going
on. That ain't what happen. Right. I'm here
to tell, but see. They don't listen to
the people who lived there. Bro. They have
on based on them again not like in
la. That's another thing. Like, there's a lot
of dudes online. That have never set foot
in Los Angeles. And they have like liz
off towards black L people. It's the... I'm
telling you is the dating thing at... I
think a lot of it because playing deleted
game thing too. Like it's something about too.
They just feel like... I would never let
nobody tell me what had I can't wear.
Like, they... It's like a... They wanna prove
that they're tougher. I don't is weird, bro.
But but this the thing no. We don't.
About we don't people on the West Coast,
we don't trip about day politics, whether it's
Florida, Miami with the Z town and autumn
them dues or but Houston in Dallas Chicago.
You know, but you never hear Chicago need
to talk about La. But right. Triple name
politics of what, and I I noticed this,
and I know you saw this 2 at
After the kendrick Lamar, pop out a lot.
During the pop out. And I wanted to
get you... Because I don't think you came
on when we talked about the I don't
think we've talked about the pop out at
all. After don't talk about the pop out.
We talk about drink. Well, yeah. Pop out
happens. Of course, he got meet the books
which is Jay worthy and hit AJ3 and
you know what Saying they all blood. You
know what Saying they out there and they
was rap. You know, they was representing, they
was rap. K? Now, of course, my boy
be, you know, Jeep Rico. He represented too.
You what I'm saying? That... It wasn't much
blew on the stage, but it was enough.
Okay? It was enough But I think a
lot of people that watch that what they
can't understand is, why is it that on
the West Coast and specifically La that people
in La don't wanna be like no else.
They got their own politics. They got their
own thing. They own music that they like,
and we don't care if you like it
Or. I think that really what it boils
down to because in this day in age
when it comes to hip hop when it
comes to culture, fashion. Everybody dresses a life.
You saying I told somebody that said, you
could come across the dude in La with
Van zone and some fucking looking like a
skater be a full fledged gang bang. You
know what I'm saying? You gang bang ain't
gotta do wearing chuck and dick suits and...
No. I they didn't just have on van.
Gang bang that this that rise skateboard boards.
Bro? Yes. You Like, it there are full
fledged gang members they're mostly from Long Beach
or Venice. That know how to ride skateboard
boards and do the whole no. Banging
crib. You know what I'm saying? And and
see the thing is,
when you... It's... I think a lot of
it is... And I had to say this,
bro, but I think there's a certain level
of jealousy there that they try to disguise
under fake blacks. Talk. Y'all destroying the community
and then why Y'all don't take that energy
and do this that in the third. Right.
Right. I'm not gonna say all of it
is not sincere. I think some of it
is sincere. But I think a lot of
it has to do with the fact that
the people that are saying that are not
a part of the community of people where
they could just instantly get together under 1
purpose and move in the direction of achieving
and protecting that purpose Right. Good bad right
or wrong. Right. Because Sure not gonna here
and say gang bang is good. Right. Right
now. I say this is a reputable that
did it. It's been doing did it. Starting
at 13 years old all the way up
until my late twenties. Yeah Yeah. I've seen
it all. You know what I'm saying? And
I can't I've no... I can't most of
my homeboy boys that are in my aged
bracket or older. They'll tell you, I wish
I wouldn't never did. Never did it. Right.
Right. Right. Well, Not god. I'm not saying
it's a good thing. Right? But take that
part of it out. When you have the
sense of community, the sense of purpose and
a sense you know, a set of principles
that you stand on that everybody unites around.
You po together you... It's it's a family,
and then you look at everybody else's the
outside. A lot of people envy that they
don't have that. Because those other places really...
And and I don't wanna say they don't
have it, but I'm a just go based
on what I've seen. They really don't have
a lot of order in these other cities.
I mean, especially Atlanta where there... Is it
seems like anything goes. This is random groups
of crews. It's like there. But it's worth
like, you know, when you talk about a
group of, you know, 345
hundred nigga. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
There's been around for generation.
4 5 generations, that's bigger than just crew
of nigga that's hot for the moment. You
know what I mean? Right. And in Chicago
has that as well.
Why said you'll Chicago on no lake because
they... Not really. Not really. They don't really
they ain't got dang looking at us like
that. No. That's why they could come out
here somebody like dirt to come out here
and move around and get respected because they
kinda understand what it is. Yeah.
And and so I think when you are
somebody who doesn't have that, there is a
level of Envy. Now I'm.
But I I think it's... Is some validity
to what I'm saying because you have these
deals. I'll go to any of these these
La based, gang pages,
Youtube, channels, whatever. Rather it's no jumper, rather
it's...
With some of the other shows on that
street street gangs. No big. Back on fifth,
the community,
yeah.
Right? Kevin mac, any of these videos. And
you'll see these people that are not from
Los Angeles, but they're making up the majority
of the comments. Yeah Yeah. And they're just
all y'all. That's stupid. He said, y'all. Man,
why gotta be 30 people. That. Shut up
nigga. Because you... If you had access to,
a group of 30 or more people had,
they had a chain of command and had
a community. You would do it 2 nigga
Stop. Absolutely. That's understand what I'm saying. Yeah.
And and I think a lot of that
is envy to a certain degree. Is all
of your envy mv No. That's not what
I'm saying. And I and and I'll throw
another example in there. I think that's why
a lot of people,
you hear a lot of people that criticized
like the black church. Yeah. Yeah. I think
it's a... Similar thing because the black church
has their own level of qualification. They move
together as a community They do they own
thing. They have a level little organization. Now
you don't have to agree with the religion
or the practices or whatever... But, I think
a lot of the criticism comes from people
who can't do that Yeah. Yeah.
For or there's people that feel like they
got dead wrong in the church. So then
they just became totally anti. I know somebody
that And I'm, you know me. I'm a
religious person, but I'm a person. I know
somebody that turn religion because of how they...
Feel like they got did. I'm like, wait
a minute. So this ain't really gotten nothing
to do with the church. This is about
you trying to find your way, but you
don't have to turn against the black church.
You just have to find what you need
to find. Right. But but hear me out
though because I'm not talking about, like, that's
a real thing. Like, people... I know people
personally that have had their whole psych their
whole mind destroyed by yeah. So I'm... I'm
gonna lead them out of it for the
moment. I'm talking about the ones who are
the hangers on, like, I'm not... I don't
have to go to church to worship god,
but they keeping an eye on everything the
church is doing and they always got something
to say, but they never wanna ask actually...
Step in and participate and help correct some
of the things that they think that the
church is doing wrong or they don't ever
wanna
take the opportunity to to step up. That's
okay. Cool. You don't think we're doing enough
over here. Let's open up a program to
address that. And why don't you lead it,
brother? They'll be like, no. I'm ain't doing
all that. All all, okay. So we see
what this is really all about. I think
there's a level of... Oh, and you see
it with black f return as well. I
don't throw.
Throw them in there. We get Yeah. They're
organized. They got their own little coal. They
take care of each other. Nigga that ain't
in that. They big go, Okay. We'll throw
y'all some crumbs, but y'all not with us.
We are us. Yeah. There is a level
of, and and I would be honest. A
lot of peoples. Big see that. Oh, y'all.
Y'all only care about yourselves. You ain't you
ain't really for all black people. Nigga they
never said they were. They've never said that
they were for all black people. They are
for themselves, and then they'll throw other black
people some crimes. Right did what I'm saying.
And that's just the
of. Wrong. That's a fan. But that's just...
If you look at life, that is just
the reality of life. Yes. We are tribal
people. Yes. People don't wanna acknowledge it. We
are tribal people bro. I don't know what
it is. No matter how developed we get
socially
tech tech... In terms of technology,
whatever it is at the end of the
day, you could take for a hundred people,
put them in a room, give them all
kinds of resources. They're gonna start dividing themselves
into groups. Absolutely.
Yeah. Absolutely. And, you know, this is the
thing is, like, whenever, you know, I hear
people talk about the economy and all things
and... You know, I know we all do
well. For ourselves. But and when you create
a community, if if td needs some... If
I need some, you need some, we we
have we have each other's back. If Vid
needs something, We got her back. That's Lil
sis. We got her back. If there's just
some random person, I mean, I'll see what
I could do. But if I won't... If
I don't know you like that. You know
what Saying I don't know what you... Because
we're talking about. Human beings. I don't know
what your... Interior motives are. You what Saying?
I I'll support you the best way I
can, but I don't really know you. So,
like and and and this is and this
is going drawn back to the pop out,
it just seems like whenever the West Coast
come out, we have our own thing. And
First of all, you saying that shit wasn't
tight, you lying. You know what I'm saying?
You mad. You lying And it didn't have
nothing to do with Drake. It didn't have
nothing put that beef. It has something to
do with the fact that it's... Time. Look
we've Yeah. And I know a lot of
people don't know these people, but there's a
lot of dudes in the community that are
former gang members, and I ain't talking about,
like, members former gang bang that are trying
to fix the community right now. So for
someone like a Kendrick Lamar to do that
that just pushes it even more know... Are
people still gonna represent day flag. Yeah. Are
people are still don't represent their community? They
should. I hope so yeah Don't it. You
said even if you don't gain bank, if
you from the Chris district, 1 motherfuckers from
the Chris district
represent that shit. They represent the shop... Even
if you don't bang. Yeah.
You proudly say I am from the District
after Los Angeles. If you from the Baldwin
villages area people will boldly and out said.
You from En.
Ing wood. Wherever. Ing
represents. Okay? And that's the way... And there's
nothing wrong with that. The only thing that's
wrong is when the violence. Comes in that.
So when people start talking about, y'all should
be. Y'all should... You don't even know what
they're doing. So when you try to... When
you see what you saw on Tv and
you immediately link comes that with violence, I
understand why you did, but I also understand
that I know you know that. You know
what I'm? Because you know that this was
for peace because Kendrick even said so that
it was for peace. So it bothers you.
And I think another part of it is
because what we said before, you know what
Saying? When people come to La, they have
this idea of what Beverly Hills in La.
A lot of people feel like they should
be able to come to La and it
should be there Oyster. But ain't normal city
like that. You can't go to york city
like that. And just move around and do
everything you all new and... Man. You gonna
get your last nowhere You going more Puerto
Rican town in the Bronx or the American
town or whatever. They will run your black
ass there? Yeah. There. You run 3 to
New York City. Are you serious? Like I
say, like, when I go to, you know
those... Week made you talk about this all
the time. When we watch old movies. We're
back in the day when you watch them
old movies in New York and a steam
coming from the manual. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah
Be like, man, When I when I go
to new york it better be just like
that. You know? I want the racist this
top nigga. I want rat. I want it
all, but I also noticed politics in that.
I'd correct. Know I'm saying? There's certain areas
I ain't got no bin been, but I
know that about La too. So when it
comes to the whole, you can't wear no
hat.
Other the kind of stuff, Nigga a look.
You do what you want. Do what you
want. And in my times out of tea
even with the hat thing well, you ain't
ain't nobody going by. Nobody don't bother you
doing they look, man, people street... People from
the streets know when they see a square.
Right? You know what I'm saying? They're not
gonna just all of a sudden be tar.
It's not like,
thriller, but like, you wore a a Cincinnati
reds had now all of a sudden, all
the game members just come jumping out of
trees and shit. Right. It doesn't climbing out
of manhole.
If you're not from out here, you have
to actually go looking for that. Yeah. The
go it's like School boy queue. I wish
I could play that audio where he said,
he... And he said he was saying he
make a sense. Just like, Nigga, why do
you wanna come out here and even go
over there. Don't the.
Hey. Why do you wanna go over there?
Go box spots.
Get something eat, get your little woman
or a man or whatever you're doing? Kick
back, smoke your weed or whatever you're in
into and get the hell out of here.
Like, I don't understand. That's what I don't
understand because when you go to these areas,
there's nothing there. Okay? Yeah Why do you
wanna go to the Nick gardens? Really? Real.
Why? Well I can see that because Nigga
just wanna go to...
You know, if you wanna do the food
spots. You definitely me 1 go hawkins Yeah.
Yes. What's outside of that. Well, no. Let
me let me let me let me step
back for... Just a sec. Right? Because there
is a certain level of curiosity. There is
there we all have that. You know what
Saying? No. Not for me. I don't wanna
go. To the hood in Miami
or... No. No. Wherever real. I don't wanna
go to those places. No. The nigga is
hungry out there. They show it. That's enough
different type of hunger. Yeah. They'll you'll get
Got out there. Oh, I've been there. That's
a different type of hunger out there. Right.
And you'll never they'll never see you again.
Like, see, and I I went to the
in Miami accident. Yeah. Luckily, it was during
the daytime. But I'm... I tell him on
fucking a minute. I'm a scary Nigga Don't
care. You don't what saying? Right now that's
not saying like I'm a coward, it's just
that I'm always got my head on the
wi. You know what saying? When I went
to Miami.
I was looking for...
We was looking for black people because you
don't know the dynamics when you get there.
So when I cut there, I didn't see
no black people. Correct. So I asked a
brother. I said, man, where are black people
at. And he told me where to go,
and I ended up in Liberty City. Looks
like he was trying to line you up.
But I made sure it was during the
daytime. It was early church crowd. Church crowd
at the. You don't saying? Okay. Yep we
went back to the hotel. You don't saying,
but I'm not about to... Even even though
I know La that like the back of
my damn damn. I'm not going into the
they come on, But for what? Right? You
know right like Yeah. Bros. Just like, okay.
Let's let's let's take on let's stay on
the pop out. Right?
A lot of the early criticism that our
software. People outside... With both within the community
and outside of the community. But let's go
with outside first, and then we'll get to
some of these should that people were saying
that are actually firm out this way. A
lot of criticism in son and, you know,
that clown, whose initial start with ACW.
Yeah. Yeah.
Start talking mouth. Nigga is just gonna go
back to shooting up after the thing. That's
not the point. Right why saying that this
was Jesus
you know, coming to earth and unite and
everybody and ruling. Nobody said that. It's a
moment in time. Where, hopefully, we can build
off of something. Yeah. It's not gonna happen
overnight, bro? And everybody's not gonna be on
the same page. It's humans.
Everybody ain't gonna be with it. The ain't
gonna be able please everybody. Ram. And so
everybody's talking about all, See Nigga had a
shooting a couple weeks after the pop out.
What happened? Motherfucker is shootings in all these
other cities. Every day. Every... That was the
boy named Julio Julio? He just got mer
and the dude went and shot a video
or something at the place where the brother
got killed? Yeah. And that's in Jacksonville. So
what are y'all talking about? This is day
and all these other places Texas. The Whether
Houston Dallas or Fort Worth. Yep. Right? Chicago,
of course, that's gets all the news play.
Saint. Louis is probably even worse than Chicago,
but people just don't talk about but S
saint Louis is off the chain. Yes. Right?
I just saw a video of dudes in
Brooklyn or wherever that was, full fledged shooting
at a barber shop because he saw 1
person that he wanted to get hiding behind
a car
aired out the whole barber shop and killed
everybody except for the person he was trying
to get. Rem Rem My son is in
prison right now for
contract kill supposedly killed somebody. There's another little
young rapper from Brooklyn that got that murdered
somebody in a barber shop the dude come
out of Barber shop and he just didn't
like the way he looked at. And he
was made what you're looking at. And dude
stepped up the barber shop and then he
went to the barber shop... I mean, so
I mean, these things happen because you can't
tell everybody what to do. It but it
feels like when it comes to the West
coast, all of us. Sutton everybody wanna be
out to be Wells Barnett and most motherfucking
are looking junior. And that's because when you
stick it to rap in music. Los Angeles
is what the second and third largest market
in the world. Probably the second. Yeah. So
really... See, when you have a artist from
the West coast that really make some shape.
It's gonna cause air. It's gonna cause way
everywhere. Just because the market is so big.
So when people say oh, he's that's just
cracking at La. No. That's not true. That's
not true at all. But if something...
Because honestly, it's a lot of act. In
La that only really crack in la. They
don't... They don't reverb all through the whole
region because each region has the own little
shit going on. Having to do that was
at the pop only cracked on the West
Coast. Right. But once you get that 1
that really just ba his The... His head
that that drum or that bell in the
in the in the sound waves travel all
the way through the region and the whole
region react? That causes a reaction and all
over the place. The kendrick lamar drops a
reverse. Right. Everything drops. Exactly. And it started
with like that. Yeah. Let's notch If not
like us or none of that ever came,
out like that would probably still be in
the top 5 on in on the billboard.
Right It's still in the top... It still
is. Yeah. On billboard right now. And it
came out with. 4 months ago? In March.
All March or whatever.
And it's still making noise. So... But if
and if this beef never happened, if drake
had never responded, like that, would probably still
be getting that gang to play because people
know that. Like they know not like us.
Yep. All over the country Yep. Right? So
once somebody from the West really really, first
of all, when they make a sound wave
throughout the whole region I'm talking about. From
San Diego through La through Norway way California
all the way up to Seattle, to Port
All that boom. Once that happens, it goes
to Vegas. It goes to Arizona. It goes
to, Mexico. It goes. And next do you
know, all over the country is huge. Right?
Yeah. Yeah. Not like us. You could look
it up on Apple Music last week, I
don't know what it's doing this week. But
last week, it was literally number 1 in
Los Angeles. Number 1. And Toronto,
1 in New York, Number 1 in Atlanta,
Number 1 in Miami,
Number 1 in Albuquerque. You don't saying, like
maybe reached Good think of that song was
number 1. So obviously, something about it struck
a chord with people. And as my motherfuckers
said don't like that. Yeah. Why. Yeah. Why
are they. No. I think I think a
lot of times and we saw this with
other West Coast artists. What especially came to
e 40 Oh my god. Oh, they really
hate for. Damn. People are 80 40. You
know what I'm saying? And the thing about
it is well, if you had so much
why you're talking like, Y'all nigga wasn't... Y'all
nigga is 1 saying, player hate and all
that kind of stuff before e 40. Right.
Now we might have heard those words because
we live out here. But but ain't even
from there. No. You know what that? E
40 trademark all his shit. Yeah. Know
buddy I'm player hate, you never heard that
term until you heard E 40. Said. Now,
you might not have heard 40 he said
but somebody else did, and they started saying
it, and now you're saying it and that
word been in the Lexicon said since the
early nineties, maybe late eighties. Early nineties. Man,
it's a whole heap of slang that heat
is responsible for that that region is responsible
for. Yeah. Right. And and and and it's
and it's that region, the Bay area Mag
dr Rich for you know, all of that.
That's way different from la a. That whole
mentality you know what Sure. Yeah. So, I
think, you know, like we're talking about the
pop out, nobody said that all the violence
was gonna stop in La because Kendrick did
something for peace. But what doing is is
part. And that's all we could ask for.
You asked for people to do their park.
You look, you got people like, Kendrick doing
his part, but then you got people with
boots on the ground, whether you agree with
him or not, Big you, and what he
does. Skip townsend, and what he does, all
of the channels on Youtube are these older
dudes that make video they're doing the history
of gangs. They always preach peace. Yep. You
know what I'm saying? Every link single 1
of the blood side and the curb side.
They are preaching peace in La. And I
saw a really good conversation last week. It
was on Kevin mac was 1 of his
homeboy boys and he was talking about what
is la on b in 10 years. Mh.
And because he's he said that, you know,
he grew up over on split 6 third
Brian hurts? And he was talking about how
now you see a lot of different looking
people there. You know what I'm saying? And
he was wondering what is la going look
like... In 10 years and plus what the
cost of living. You know mean just had
a conversation about that time my cost of
living is ridiculous. Yeah. For sure. And it's
to the point was Mexicans can't even afford
it. Yeah.
How is this gonna look in 10 years?
Is
bifurcation gonna be the all in b all?
Is it gonna be to the point worth?
Even why people can't afford it? Well, it's
I think it's at that point. Honestly. It's
at that point? Because what I'm starting to
see now. They build Na these damn townhouse
houses and and luxury apartments in condos. They
can't... They have a thousand vacancies. Yeah. Nobody
here can afford
to be making... They want you to make
3 and 4 times the rent in the
rent is 3000 dollars. I would say the
rent is 4300 a month Yeah. Like, nigga,
what what do you what do you think
people are out here doing? Do you really
think you can make a 500 unit luxury
apartment complex and make 50 at these motherfuckers
and put them all within... You know, 2
square miles of each other and in a?
Big is moving there. Yeah. Where all the
jobs that are supporting people making these lot...
Making all this money that can afford to
live in these place. Right. Right. Making the
rent higher than you're making it enough, now
it ain't. Because the rent and the mortgage
is damn near your you know, 3
working situation is a whole different thing because
if you put in a a guy he
just passed away. He lives a block from
my house. Old older gentleman. I should chopped
it up with him all time, and he'd
be living in his house for about 60
years. And he passed away. His kids put
the house on the market that was sold
in 2 weeks. Gone. And and the thing
is for someone working class like me, Ut,
if we wanted to put a bid and
somebody gonna come in with cash. Yep. So
then that now you're out of the housing
market. So how are you supposed to survive
on the West Coast or in New York
City? You know what Saying everybody don't wanna
live in Houston? Everybody don't wanna let hell
that Houston is becoming una unacceptable So it
it's dallas. So everybody don't wanna live in
chattanooga New to Tennessee. Okay? You know what
I'm saying? So when when you talk about
the politics on the West coast the things
that go on out here, because it's... Same
thing going on in La is the same
thing that happened in San Francisco is happening
in Oakland now. It already happened in Portland,
and it's already happened in Seattle. Probably happened
in Seattle before everywhere on West Coast. You
what Saying? Because that was tech the tech
industry in Seattle was a huge thing in
the early 2000
But when we're talking about the way people
are living, politics, race and things like that
as far as living on the West Coast,
and you're talking about, you know, people like
to bring in gangs. And all those are
the kind of stuff. It's like, do you...
If you've never lived out here. If you've
never been out here, it will be it'll
be like me trying to explain to someone
what the... Projects in Orleans is like, in
the way they get down. I don't know
because I don't... You know what I'm saying?
But they have their own politics. Right? They
got their own politics. So out here, if
I wanna move... And you know me, I'm
trying to move back to la for a
few years now, but I'm looking at the
way things is looking and I'm like. In
this in this in this recession, it's just
not gonna happen right now. What I'm saying
It's it's just not. And it's it's difficult,
but you could used to it after while
the way things have have been going. I
have the thing is. You don't wanna get
used to it because then they'll just keep
things where they are. Yeah. You know what
It's funny is,
I'm thinking about what you're saying about people
moving out. You're trying to make. People from
New York, be figuring it out. Well, I'll
give them next. Like, they from the East
Coast. They never heard this shit out. They
used that
They didn't actually get it out. I seen
seen a video on Youtube of a guy
that he was happy that he was able
to find an apartment for 2500 dollars. This
apartment was so small. It was followed than
the 1 that you showed me that was
in San Pedro.
Yeah
But he
Hey. I will give New Yorkers and East
Coast residents... I mean,
East Coast. Transplants this. They figured this it
out. When they get out here in any
significant numbers. They they just transformed the area
into Yeah. New York
snuck light. Yes. It's like, it's like New
York West out here. Thank all. Yeah. But
then on the flip side, there's a lot
of people from La that moved to New
York and Atlanta. They'd be figuring that shit
out. Yeah. Oh yeah, especially in Atlanta. They
kill. Yeah. I there's some people that from
La bro that left La when La was
cracking. Yeah. Like, I'm talking about La was
cracking from, like, early to mid nineties all
the way up until about 20... Like 10.
Yeah. 20 13 is when the wheels kinda
fell all the way off and shit and
it started kinda going downhill. But the people
who left around 20... In the in the
20 tens. They thrive and bro. In Houston
making it crack. They Atlanta making it cracked.
Yeah. Know what Saying? That they jumped on
Atlanta and Houston before the boom. Right. Because
you people gotta remember, Atlanta wasn't until the
96 Olympics Atlanta was just Atlanta. It wasn't
nowhere near what it is today. The nineties
olympics did a lot. Or too short. Moved
to Atlanta. In 19 90 13 fan out
there from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So and he
had he had a big hand in in
developing the Atlanta sound. Yeah. Yeah. Saying people
don't don't look at the up. But... Because
I remember... Yeah. I know you probably remember
this. Remember when a cash first came out.
And good mob. Like, that was cool. You
what I'm saying? But man again. Like. That
new group from the south. You what I'm
saying there for from Atlanta, but that was
it. It wasn't no... This is gonna be
the the the thing of the future. You
know what Saying?? That time I'm the gang
was still based around New York and La.
But you gotta remember, and this but I'll
tell people all the time when we have
these conversations. When New York held the crown
and hip hop, they wasn't sharing with nobody.
Hell. No They rejected everybody. You did what
I'm saying? Yeah. The West Coast literally had
to had to beat the ass and take
it from them. Yes. Right. And then when
we had the crown. We were sharing it
with everybody. Both likely. The West Coast, we
opened up doors from the nigga from the
Midwest. Yep. I remember bone thugs and harmony
when they first got big. Yep. They boom
was the biggest group in the world at
1. They were the biggest group in the
world. Yeah. Yeah. Remember that. Like that was
crazy. Crossroads and all the records they did.
They were at the level with wool tang.
The wool tang was 1 in.
Bro. Yeah it was crazy. Yeah. Was crazy.
It was a group from the Midwest. I
think they from Ohio cleveland cleveland with. Yep.
Yep. And then what that did, was then
with that fast rap style. In it in
the mel and all that. That opened up
the door for that midwest sound to Park
for Chicago... Yes. Open it up for that
whole area. So you started receiving more like,
twist got big and then do her door.
Yeah. Door temp. And then what's that group
that
Crucial crucial conflict. Right? Those records pop big
out here. Yeah. They did. Right? And because
they pop big out here. They was able
to pop big everywhere. Yeah. You know what
I'm saying? The New York was not fucking
with that Wasn't fucking with them. Then Remember
Out cast pop big out here. When that
first Album came out. My homie was playing
that. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm
saying? And so what end up happening, man
is the... And then you had Scarf face
coming out here message
j Mack and that's to let
And I pee coming out here. Remember memory
him ice cube had the song hand of
the body. Yeah to Huge song. P song.
Master he came out here, did his thing.
He started blowing up with no limit. They
were doing a lot of collaborations with West
Coast artists from the South from Southern California
and Northern, California. So it was like, okay.
Cool. New York don't wanna mess with nobody.
Cool. We don't all star programming together. And
when the west was cracking, we allowed all
that. Yeah. Right. Too short out there in
Atlanta. Dealing messing with the Dungeon family messing
with, any later on, messing with Little john.
Yeah and when he dropped blow the whistle
in the early 2 thousands or whatever. That
was a huge record. Yeah. With a new
sign. It might be... That might be 1
of Little John's biggest records and 2 source
biggest records. Yeah. It's still 2 short biggest
record to this day. And so when the
west fell off because, you know, when all
here let the gang bang and then all
that getting away. Yeah. And the south took
over. They they...
I don't know what subway with brothers in
the south. Like, Nigga don't get the love
back. They don't. They get hate back. Yes.
Like What what... What is going on here?
Yeah. You know? That's the thing is because
I can remember all those member the West
Coast Bad boys. That was really no limit.
Hooking up with the West coast. So on
those compilation it will be brother Lynch and
each boarding in. All these different ea ski
and all these... It'll be like, oh, you
be like, back. Memories
bro. Let's call bad boys
still
it it will be a it will be
a collaboration between Texas, Louisiana and Cali oh,
you know what I'm saying? And every now
and then, you get tech 9. And tech
9 from Kansas City. Tech 9 would get
a reversed. You know what I'm saying? Like,
the middle plus. Kansas City of places like
that in connection. That's where Mc drake got
killed at. Was in in Kansas City. I
didn't know that too. Yeah. Yeah I never
really looked to the... To his murder or
anything like that so I didn't. The city.
They never found out who didn't it, but
the Bay area going to the Midwest was
a normal thing. You you know And there's
a acronym name fat tone. He was put
on by sea ball. Like, that's just the
way it was, but it seemed like when
the when the South took over, and it
could be because of the individuals, The
individuals they got put on didn't show that
love back. And if you look at who
these individuals are, you never really heard them
whipped west coast artist anyway. Now 1 person
I will say that he he do even
Don't really listen to his music, Rick Ro
because he he was on music... He was
on Nip Album went really nobody knew who
not showed a lot of love to nip.
Yeah.
Yeah. For sure. And still to this day.
He still gives nip a lot of love.
Nobody even been in in his passing. So
I will give Rick ross that. Who else?
It was a couple of do. There's a
couple cats from out there that, and matter
of fact, I don't even know if From
a saying it's the it's the artist themselves.
It's more of the lame. It's the people.
Like it's the you the fans. It's the
fans that because a lot of the artists
they ain't on that type of time. No.
But then again, I do remember seeing me
mendoza up there when Kendrick won,
the Grammy for dance. The Me was up
there and look at real salty. Yeah. But
I'm kinda... That's the thing is, like, there's
this new generation of rappers from the south
to to me.
Because when I think about the south, when
you talk about south, I think about UGKI
remember U k big, than screw tapes. A
ball m mj c. Ball and m mj
g who don't some.
8 ball is in the c. Yeah. He's
in my top 10. Yeah. That's how much
I love 8 ball, bro. Yeah. 8... Tell
you some homie. When he dropped his first
single, I mean, he dropped his first solo
project so lost? Was it lost? Yeah. Lost.
I'm sure as major 1. To me, that
was 1 of the top 5 hip hop
albums of 19 98, Bro? Yeah. Yeah. That
I played that album on repeat more than
anything. I think that year. Yeah. Yeah. You
know what I'm saying? Yeah. I see the
song what you wanna do. Go to war
man will talk is cheap, in the gang
chance. Fights only ignite gun place so why
say watch. Yeah just back and don't come
around my weight. Nigga oh I figured it
out Yeah, man.
That was and and but you know what,
though? Those artists back then, the couch should
chasing Era hadn't started yet. So cloud chasing
air, and I'm not even throw Wayne in
that. Because wayne Show Wayne was on early
before He was on e ford I'll self
made billionaire 97. I don't put none of
them dudes in... Because I'm wasn't why you
just sitting here talking. I had to start
thinking like, it was so much Pro collaboration
going on between the south the Midwest and
the west that I can't put it on
the arc? No. And you remember the 1
of the biggest songs with smile, Scarf facing
pop. Yep. That was a huge...
That was a huge record. Like, Scarf face
with the bridge. You know dead away from
that record when it came out, out here.
Man, they even made a video for Park
was dead.
Yeah. I remember. They had a person on
the cross that you... It might be 2
popular, but we don't know. You know what
saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was at that
point. You know what Saying? That's how big
that was, but the cloud chasing era. That's
when things started getting a little screw and
I believe that, you know, down south, the
cloud chasing it just be on level 10
sometime. Know what Saying? You just be on
a different level to where you'd be like,
okay. Now Nigga you're doing too much. Being
extra. Mh. And then you just doing do.
And then the... Now when New York did
get on, You know who it was. That
really to me was like the first ones
to really start moving and shaking out here
with them fat joe big pause. Yeah. Yeah.
Fat Big pine. Yeah. They really started programming
with like Mac 10 and shit all here.
You know what Movie. Thicker and blood. It's
all about weight, work guns. Yay. Real motherfuckers
change doing don't play. Y'all mother motherfuckers don't
movie. Don't... Spring big putt fat joe Mag
10 baby. I remember that.
It was that 1 and you had the
1 song with e 40 sauce money and
fat joke. U. They had a sewn together.
So I think they was they was of
the... They were still trying to... Plus that
was, I think a lot of that was,
killed all that East Coast West coast shit
too for sure. Pretty sure. All let's start
making money together. We we got spinner, man.
Change the game, which was we remember the
change the gang remix with Jay z and
the dog pound. That was dope. That was
fire wreck. Yeah,
I. Gotta give Jay z props too. Because
Jay started moving and shaking a little bit
with everybody. He was 1 of the first
New York Mcs that was, like an elite.
Oh top tier level C that started moving
and shaking with the West Coast and with
the south. Because they were too short on
his album early. Yeah. And then remember, big
Pip was a huge rat Big Pip. Yeah.
With u k. Yeah. Yeah. So Yep. Jay
z, I'll give him credit Jay z fat
Fat Big putt. They
Bus rounds is another 1. Did when did
they start doing it We you got a
whole out. With Doctor. Dr. But it never
it never came out something happened, but they
did a whole album together. You. A thousand
like the 2000.
It was early 2000. It was. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm talking about the ones that really hopped
on, like, when the east west thing was
still closed yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I would
say, yeah. Fat Joe Big pun, j,
from the college? Maybe Dm max? Oh No.
Him and cube did the in the club
remix, or we'd be Club remix that was
a huge record. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. That's
it didn't do we'd be club and remix.
I forgot about that. I'm a that. I
was. 99
99. When did players club come out. Oh,
yeah. About 99 98 99. I just remember
they were on 5 with with send bad.
And I remember that performance they did on
5 with send back... They had show chop
on there doing the ad. And Yes. Yes.
That was a fire performance bro. When they...
I... I wonder if that's all you somewhere
because I remember recording that when I was
a kid and watching it. Was like I
kid when I came... Maybe I was growing
when that, It was like, 18 18 19.
Yeah. Something like that.
Still you're still a damn kid that's Yeah
Yeah. You you still don't know shit. You
know a damn thing. You don't start really
knowing anything so you get in your mid
late thirties right there.
Please those 08:25.
Yeah hell. Nah. You don't know a damn.
They will be be doing... You know, your
frontal lobe. Now I'll give fuck. You no
shit.
Yeah. You just you're not wise nothing You
know,
Like 32, you got your experience and you
you get your wisdom up a little bit.
Yeah. Sure. Say just a segue real quick.
I got a bunch of kids that just
graduated. And they was talking about, you know,
they 18 or whatever I said, look, don't
get it to us. You still don't know
shit. Mh. You all, but I can do
that. Man, look, go to college, get your
education and live your life, but don't do
nothing stupid, and trust me. You don't know
anything, and you're not gonna make any money,
so don't get mad, when you graduated from
college, and can't get a good job. You're
not gonna make any money to you're about
32, 33 years old because nobody trust you.
Yeah. It's just it is what it is.
You what Saying They was looking at me
like damn? And what am I doing this
for?
You're right hat that went doing it for.
Yeah. For sure. The right passage. My daughter's
going through it right now.
My son going through it, Bro. I don't
know. I know exactly exactly. Think I might
have to move back home and but, I'm
like, what what happened. Well, my room roommate
is moving back to Portland. And I can't
afford the red and and that... You have
a door door always open for so. That's
what we here for. Door always open your
room. Still it right there. You know what
I'm saying? Well don't figure it out. You
know what Saying? Figure. That's what we here
for. Bro. Right. That's what the head out
we here for. Yeah. But don't don't stress
about it if you gotta come home. Couple
of months. You gotta come home. It is
right. Right. Still be on your program. All
come.
Yeah me bullshit. You know what Saying Go
go to work while you're in there sn
it. Right. Right.
Come in here, take a breather in a
minute. You know, get your bearings together and
then get on it. You saying is Like
getting knocked off the horse. Buck you off.
You get back on. You know what Saying.
I told said you gotta get a roommate
or move back on campus and live in
the dorm. You only got 1 year left.
Nigga it. Like, come on now. Right. Santa's
not... Let's knock this shit out. Bring y'all
ass back home with your degree, and then
we'll pick up from there, and then we'll
just move on, but don't nigga stress about
it because you got a home to come
to them. That's a fact thing. What you're
saying a lot compared to a lot of
kids. You know Like don't have on home
to come back to for sure. For show.
But
we nigga we didn't whip. You took us
away on a whole another... I know I
thought I had real quick on a hold.
Yeah. Now. We could go on a hold
other for But back to the pop out,
you know, when it comes to the Kendrick
papa, I love that show. 1, I'm gonna
just say it right now. I told you
this already. Kinder Lamar to me is the
greatest rapper of all time. I mean, know
for that.
You know who gonna be bad about you
saying that. Who too. He ain't on like,
too can come on and get the smoke.
If you want it, you know what
family podcast
brother. You don't say
sometimes.
Because look, this the thing. This and this
is just this is just my opinion. This
is this is not the champagne shark. This
is kenny of hen. Okay? To me, when
you talk about a artist that's done everything
and didn't sell out It has stayed authentic
to himself and matured as an audit... As
an artist. Now you'd have to go back
to
probably...
I'm not throwing Jay in there because Jay
has had a lot of missteps when it
came to maturity. You what I'm saying?
LLQ,
you have to go back that far and
for him to touch on certain Subject that
cute, and, you know, cuba was my favorite
rapper of all time. Cube never touched on
certain subject that Kendrick has touched on, you
know, when you listen to Mister Morale, I
didn't know I think you told me this.
I didn't know that it was actually a
double album because I'm listening to it through
streaming services. So I didn't know, you know,
we don't actually go by physical.
Cds anymore. You know I'm saying? But this
is a double album, and the first half
of this of the album is the half
with codec on it, which is the point.
The big step you know? Talk big shit.
You know what Saying All this, you know,
living living Way and then mister Morales is
the second half where he goes to therapy.
That's why the second half starts with him.
Talking to the therapist. Yeah. Yeah You know
what Saying? I didn't know that. But no
that down. And then looking at how we
went from... And I... I'm not gonna include
section because that was more like a quote
unquote. State. When you go with Good kid
Mad City where he's letting you know this
is where I come from. This is what
I've been through as a young person. This
is what happened to me in my lifetime
to to Pi butterfly. I made it, and
these are the demons I'm struggling with. Yeah.
For sure. You you get damn, and it's
still a little bit of the last 2
together, and then you get more radio friendly
hits on it too. Yeah. And then you
get last ask 1 where I went to
therapy. These are the things I was struggling
with as a grown man? How many grown
men are gonna make about a sexual addiction
Right. You know, Tell you about of problems
they've had in their relationship with their lady.
Real life problems. Not a made up shit.
Right. For so. And then talk about
you know, sexual abuse as a child. Not
that he was molested, but, you know, stuff
his mother had been the most projected onto
him. Yes. You took it out on another
relative or talk about his auntie who transitioned
into a man. You know what I'm saying?
Like, that's that's stuff that we've we... You
know, look, on our last West Coast shark
episode. They are inaugural West Post shark episode.
We talked about a lot of this. Right.
Cal, trauma and things like that have affected
us in our lives, and even to this
day, I had a conversation with my brother,
a couple days ago. And I told him,
I meditate a lot. You know, and I
told us that when I meditate. I'm certain
things pop into my mind that I forgot
about. III was meditating the other day, and
I thought about this girl. I had a
crush on when I was a freshman in
high school. I ain't thought about this girl
in 30 years. Mh. But for whatever reason,
she popped into my mind. I thought about,
a couple of Birthdays I had. And I
told my brother, I said, look, Bro, We've
been through a lot... I said, but I'm
here to tell you everything wasn't bad. You
know what I'm saying? Everything wasn't bad. It's
just at the pain sticks out more than
the the happiness and the joy. You know,
I can remember the joyful things and, you
know, all of that, but that pain when
something happens it scars you. As as the
rapper cost says,
the wounds of my body healed faster than
the scars in my mind. Right. Know what
saying yeah. Hard to get the pain because
it it's... It it it could stunt your
growth a little bit.
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