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Warm weather means it's time to hit the

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boots, shoes, sandals and socks,

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Hydro.

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Hydra.

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That's the topic of this segment at Carolina

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Tj j, the Dj bog on the other

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a we'll start with hiking boots

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because that's 1 of the ones people will

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they'll park it in the closet.

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Have you ever done that Tj? I wish

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I wish I have done that. Well, maybe

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a pair of of hiking boots that don't

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really look that worn. Do they? No. No.

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with footwear and with, the rise of vintage

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clothing And yeah. People go into maybe goodwill

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car guy. So, if you let your car

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leather, of course, the skins of animal, but

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that's when a pair of leather boots will

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degrade, but going back to these boots that

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the glue or the cement that helps adhere

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many of you and bringing this up who

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great pair of hiking boots, but you don't

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the corner of your room,

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you just don't get to go hiking as

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much as you plan to or wish you

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that particular trip.

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and they'll say look at these boots.

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I've barely worn them, but the soul just

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accurately been put out there. This thing has

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it does have some age. Hydro hydraulics this

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worse about this is hydro

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other footwear that's suffering like this, you should

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get rid of it. So you're... You're... You

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get those fibers moving. Yeah. Is to move

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them. It is to go for that hike.

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that the more you use it the better

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not necessarily made these purchases, from Jesse Brown's.

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when purchases are made and the items aren't

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the wear and tear. It has to do,

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and be educated, but It's a chemical breakdown

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all the oil from leather evaporates and the

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fibers in the material

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different forms. We've had people whose souls have

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perfectly good looking hiking boots, but we've also

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sole in from some manufacturers almost turned to

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across a carpet or something because they're just

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they're deteriorating to that extent. Wow. So if

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Can you get some shoe glue or something

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like that and,

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you know, get another 6 months a year

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great of a question that is, but that

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your knowledge and bringing forth this question.

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You're gonna get a layman's answer, a problem

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solve answer. Okay. But then I'll give you

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a cobb question, someone whose

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My layman's question over it at Jesse Brown.

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The answer is yes.

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If you if you used barge cement or

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or whatever tie type of adhesive to put

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the the soul back on there. It will

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get you over the hump through a hike

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for a period of time. Right. But a

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reputable copper,

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many times will not work on a dry

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rot

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piece of footwear. Gotcha.

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The reason they won't is because of their

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reputation and because of their knowledge that it

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is only temporary.

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The the once dry rod has set in,

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it will... You can't stop the dry rod.

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Right. You can just

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maybe put a band aid on it. So

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I know about these... This particular

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boot, and it has been

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before

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treated. Oh, okay. Now it's older. Hydro hydraulics

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takes years usually to set in. Again, it's

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back to, the polyurethane, the P, the leather

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becoming dry brittle,

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separating,

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un hearing, if you will. This 1 has

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used...

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I'll say the brand. Is that bad? I

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don't think it's bad, but the gorilla glue.

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Yeah. You know that stuff. Yeah

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super glue, basically. Yeah. Yeah. So this has

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this has this is an older pair of

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boots. It's been around the block. It has

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a suffered dry rot and it has been

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repaired

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from that dry rot, but once again, it's...

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Once it's set in,

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it's temporary. So these are about to be

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retired again. I'll put this up. If you're

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just joining us talking about dry rot, talking

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about gear care,

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also talking about the necessity of using

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your gear as much as possible,

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no pressure, but dry rod is what happens

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when it is not used,

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the process can be exacerbated.

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If it's kept in a warm

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or humid place many times

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as

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as can happen. But,

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to answer your question about getting them res

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sold. It can get fixed, but not for...

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It's not a permanent fix. No. Yeah. That's

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exactly right. And if you're just joining us,

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we're are talking again about the about dry

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rod in this piece of hiking boots, but

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it can also happen for you non outdoors

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people

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who are in the collectible. We have a

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strong listeners partnership of the Carolina Outdoors at

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least via Radio,

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W t. There are partner

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as we broadcast

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early on Saturdays,

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but people who are going to

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different yard markets,

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flea markets,

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Garage sales, attic sales, Oh, yeah. Who are

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out there. Thank you for listening. Welcome aboard,

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but be mindful.

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That this is something to check for before

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Jordans may break down in this high high

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humidity we're in. You need check that 19

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Jordan Jersey

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from Chapel Hill. Yeah. Or, no. By that

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time, Chicago Bulls. Yeah. There you go. Need

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to check that 19 81.

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Chapel Hill Jersey

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because it does happen to apparel

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as well. It's easy to point it out

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in footwear, and that's what we get

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oftentimes at Jesse Brown's, not only hiking boots,

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but they can be casual shoes, many times

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waiting boots. What's a waiting boot. It's something

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that Anglers will use,

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to walk through water or in water to

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provide stability and support, but also,

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felt outs souls or a big deal for

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many of the free streams in Western North

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Carolina,

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so

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check those things out

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just to make sure that you're adhered.

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The people who should really be cognizant of

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this are people who are traveling.

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You have that certain pair of hiking boots

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that you bought when you were in college,

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But now you're getting ready to retire.

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You need to make sure that they... And

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you're going on a trip to Europe, You

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need to a, make sure that those those

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shoes or boots still fit

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because you don't wanna worry about that when

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you're on on a on a great trip

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of a of a lifetime in retirement, but

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you also wanna check

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those outs souls and mid soul. How do

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you do that? Just pull against them, you

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will see

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if if they detach.

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Be fore warren, if you're at the attic

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sale or yard sale or garage sale,

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you don't wanna damage the get... Goods

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before you purchase them, but you wanna make

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sure that you're getting what you're buying.

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This can be fore warned about this as

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well, This can happen

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inside

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stores

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as well. The the degradation process can be

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with new gear.

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Or or or gear hit that is sat

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in a store a long time. Now, fortunately,

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our sponsor Jesse Brown's. We don't have it

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like that. All ours is

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is flush per season, so we don't have

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anything that's been there

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for longer than a couple of years at

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least in the process of hydro

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or or dry rot

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takes more time than that. 1 more reason

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to get

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outside. Thanks for listening to

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me educate us about that. Thanks to Tj

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for jumping in with those a good topical

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points as well. We're gonna take a quick

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break. Come back on the other side. You're

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listening to the Carolina outdoors.