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For welcome back Cody Earth, Distance from me

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back with their narratives and cardiology series designed

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to promote d diversity and inclusion and cardiology

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because their differences make stronger

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I'm here a doctor Chelsea Can, cardio a

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Academy intern, and interim medicine pathogen at Stone

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Brook. Today, Air force car nurse will be

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descending into Georgetown to talk with Doctor He

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Thank you for that, Cor is such an

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orange welcome Doctor Kelly to represent the Gi

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Chapter Artist and cardiology series.

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Doctor Kelly's and boards who define internal physician

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and cardiologist

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who specializes in non invasive cardiology

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at the north, side Hospital cardiovascular

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Institute. In Lawrence, Georgia.

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His expertise includes preventive health, 7 underserved, 3

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refugee health and utilizing artificial intelligence in healthcare

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care.

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He's a former in a Kurdish

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refugee whose family arrived in Germany in 19

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and lifted refugee camps until 2001.

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When they moved to the United States, 2

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weeks after 90 11.

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He completed his undergraduate studies at Georgia State

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University.

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He then went out to more house school

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at Medicine

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where he graduated K lau and was selected

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at the most inspiring person.

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He subsequently went on to finish his internal

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medicine residency

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at Emory university

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where he received

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recognition as resident of the year,

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and distinction in social and inpatient medicine.

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He completed his cardiology fellowship.

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where he was also awarded the Katz foundation

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fellowship and preventive cardiology.

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Doctor Kelly's also the main character of the

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documentary titled

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Refugee, also received numerous awards.

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Doctor Val

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once again, and let me reiterate that it

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is such an honor to have me with

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us here today.

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Welcome to Crowded nerds

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We are so excited to learn about year

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and you're Asp aspiring dread tonight. Thank you.

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No. Thank you very much for having me

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here. I was telling my wife that I'm

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on Cardio. She was like, that's so cools

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her my wife is impressed and she's been

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falling against or closely on social media for

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Thank you if And, doctor. Kelly for this

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time words we're really excited to have you

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here with this today And really hear about

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her inspire and jerry.

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We touched a little bit about this briefly

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your introduction ready, but you arrived in by

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United States just 2 meters after 09:11.

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And that time was the height of the

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American population had a distress that the Middle

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East. Could you take us through your Journey

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and the cr incurred mean you're home to

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live in refugee camps and then arriving in

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the Us. How are those first few years

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Yes, I'm occurred and the Kurdish of minority

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group is the 1 that probably the second

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civilized without country like in a history of

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We are pretty much divided on 4 major

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country Iraq syria, Iran and Turkey, and we

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live in the Syrian part

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having oppressed on This region.

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And because my father was a lawyer, he

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was torture by the government and then we

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had to leave because it wasn't safe, and

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I remember when the police stole our house

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there on a silo.

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a asylum status of applying every 6 months

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from an extension with a fear of being

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to the Us after 2 years of

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extreme vetting of going back to the embassy

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were accepted to the United States, which will

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give us some hope of the 09:11 happened.

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So was all the hopes were gone, but

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September 20 first, we had a call of

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have 2 days left to go to the

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Us and you think has been ready.

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You're supposed to be told us September 10

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went to come to the Us and 09:11

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happened. So we packed her clothes and

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with no family of friends nice day arriving

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in Atlanta at Joint In a small town

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called clark,

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pretty known right now for his diversity,

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right, T is down the street from Emory.

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And, you know, I arrived here as age

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of 18 as a high school senior

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with no friends on family and

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the Us as a refugee only get about

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3 to 6 months of support from the

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government. So they expect you in 6 months

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to learn language get drive a license get

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job.

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Be independent and take care of you cell.

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The American dream didn't delivery starved for us

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because my dad had a heart attack first

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couple of weeks nice day A obama's is

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a 45 year old muslim with a he

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job, was an ideal candidate for a jab

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on that time. So I had to pick

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a job as

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Squash and dish dishes putting 40 hours a

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weekend then while trying to learn English go

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to high school.

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But I was very blessed by many Americans

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come helping us along the journey and, And

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then I say people I went to Donate

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State Mo house and then Emery

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in 10 years span I. I am the

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slowest walker white walked from the restaurant. Down

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the block to Emory University style residency there.

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I always make sure I went back with

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my Emory Id get my free drinks, so

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That's my journey coming to the Us and

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that's how I got to cardiology across

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that time, but it is definitely challenging when

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you come as a, you're not living in

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neighbor living in underserved communities where I said

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to people refugees is just a poor American

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wasn't lot English yet. Once he learned English,

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you said dealing with the same issue

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education. Just to give you inside my high

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school where blocks in high school of a

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span of 20 years, only 3 people became

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down street from Emory. So this kinda gives

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you the whole disparity you, how these communities

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struggles

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and we faced the same thing. My neighbors

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were doctors and lawyers and nurses. My neighbors

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were. Low income, members of the community. So.

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It was very definitely very challenging in the

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So I just wanna ask a few questions

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and continue your documentary doctor Kelly. So any

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document we... Which I also recommend that anyone

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who hasn't watched it to go watch it.

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The lot to learn from it. There's a

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mention brand that prior to you arriving in

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the United States. Your family also had an

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experience with hate groups back home.

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Mentioned that due to these experiences, when you

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all carry to heat within you. However, when

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you fred meet Chris in the documentary, your

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approach is 1 that is inviting and you're

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able to show him the prospecting perspective of

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your life despite his initial reformation about you.

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And for everyone else on the call who

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hasn't him yet watched the kill, Chris father,

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a veteran and a former K member

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of who's was deep prejudice against Mu challenge

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when he meets Doctor Kelly.

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Doctor Kelly, your ability to give Chris more

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perspective it's highly commendable

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This is particularly relevant for us in medicine

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as physicians where we encountered patient and calls

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from all different background.

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And it's important for us to understand each

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individual's unique experiences.

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So how are you able to let go

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of the heat that you carry eat and

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what made you choose to approach others like

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Chris in this now there.

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You know, that's a very good question Deep

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question. Just Fyi actually, the document is on

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delta all delta flight across

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nation internationally. So I think I get call

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from my colleague haven't seen for 10 years.

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Oh I saw you and I joke with

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him this, like fake news is not me.

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As an Ai version. So it's on delta

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if you don't get to watch on Amazon.

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But when I was in Syria, I had

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to leave everything, we lived with a very

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privileged lives, you know, I'm leaving everything and

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coming to a country like Germany where we

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live in refugee camp, that carries some anger

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and their anger dis still into hate

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especially when he was in Germany, I was

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a target of a lot of kids in

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school being bully because I looked different. I

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was the only brown muslim kid in a

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town of 2000 people middle of the snow.

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creates that target of, you know, of a

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prejudice. And you have to leave Germany again

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because it an accept you. So you live

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with all this anger and hate them. When

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he come to the Us,

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you're like, okay. Life doesn't look great either

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like, I have to struggle and pay the

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bills and work.

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But a lot of American taught, like, it

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means to integrate. To be honest with you

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when we came here the first week, we

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had these Christian

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church member came to my house not gonna

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door and welcomed us and took us to

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Walmart and came and taught us English and

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hosted a party for. And I could kept

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thinking here's a muslim family just right off

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to 09:11 and he are the Southern Christian

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americans

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where, you know, the country just got attack

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and they're coming to welcome or something special

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about this country, like something different from any

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other country in the world. I did not

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experience. And I think that was the first

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step of me saying, hey, maybe

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there's hope in the world. Maybe we can

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make a difference. And I think that carries

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me through my career.

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And eventually when I met Chris

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how I work with him. I was had

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my own problem prejudice, I think, but experienced

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the American story in American dream really maybe

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change my perspective about things.

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Thank you so much for sharing your journey

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and the experience of coming to a place

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and studying over and being different and also

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how to mention that your neighbor was 1

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that had many people go on to become

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physician and awareness or single bills. And good

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job and really inspired went from coming from

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that experience and running English and, being an

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immigrant to becoming a distinguished cardiologist

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and I think we talk a lot about

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this that there's a lot of rhetoric in

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the Us about how immigrants, like, steel jobs

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for citizen at its end,

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especially when some of these groups achieve a

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lifestyle that it's better than the life style

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of other people. So your journey, would you

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say that and came across any circumstances

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in which others need you feel that land

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and tell us more about how you came

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from that environment

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your journey to becoming a physician cardiologist,

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walk got interested in the field and or

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the challenges because I can't imagine that it

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wasn't an easy journey and probably a lot

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went into it. You know, I was very

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fortunate blessed, again, if it was only just

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hard work and intelligent,

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everyone will be successful. It's not that easy.

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It's like, you could be the hardest working

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person, and you could be very smart, but

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if the opportunity don't come to you well

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no present you it's very hard to make

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her out of those neighborhood.

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And that's something stuck with me that I

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was lucky that someone like, I remember doctor

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Lat who is a cardio surgeon, Emery, who

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threw his daughter who knew my brother was

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a soccer played in 1 of the school

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she went to. Whom my brother told her,

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hey, my brother is dishwasher, he wants to

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be a doctor and doing dinner she convinced

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her dad to call me.

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And, dad got my number from his soccer

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coach assistant. So just to give you like,

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all of these lucky patterns

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the guy calls me and say, hey, I

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wanna meet you Y first, he must be

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like an agent for the syrian government because

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he was Middle East himself. Who like, Why

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this guy called me, why will a harsh

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surgeon wants to talk to me? He invited

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me to me and he invited me his

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house and when I drove his neighbor it

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look like I'm the gardener with my little

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bumped up Toyota Camry.

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His humility sitting with me and asking me

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a question about my dream and talk about

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what I wanna do as a college student.

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Really taught me something special if this guy

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who was a very prominent surgeon taking the

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time to talk to me. I need to

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be like him during my journey. So every

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step of the way I looked behind. When

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I was in college, I was helping high

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school student getting air. When I was in

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Met, Was trying to help pre med getting.

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And when I became a fellow on in

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the same thing. And that's how I always

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went back to the community, because, you know,

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like, I always believe that, it was someone

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opened the door for you. You gotta hold

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the door for the next generation.

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Because if you just walk through that door

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and and close it, you just closed another

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major door for many people behind you.

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And I think that requires humility and making

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self believe it's not just hard work, and

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it's not just intelligent I got you. There's

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a blessing from higher up and also people

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came in your life to help you so

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instead of making luck

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a amount of luck, just making an opportunity

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for everyone else.

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That's married important the lesson that you spoke

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about there. Creating opportunities for others and anything,

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a lot lot of your work reflects that.

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In addition to that, I know that as

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a cardiologist, you also are an avid advocate.

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You've also chosen to make part of your

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lives work speaking out against hate. How do

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you think your 2 world intersect between cardiology

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and speaking out against hate.

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How is this work influence your Career as

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a physician so far? But it was a

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very challenging time. Right? As a physician, you

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have to be careful, what are you engage

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in and

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we have... We are always under the watch

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because we have a very professional group of

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people in the society, and we take care

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of people's family members. So how you present

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yourself in a public is very important. And

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I think with just for me was matter

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of, I was forced to the opportunity. It

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was around the Trump election and

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I was noticing there was a lot of

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entire Refugee and immigration Retro richard coming out,

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and I was shocked. I was like, wait

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a second. I came up 09:11 and I

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was welcomed by the same people who's say

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right now? We need we don't need more

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refuge in immigrants. Something's wrong here. Is it

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my fault that I'm not advocating enough?

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Because I could be this cardiologist living in

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a nice neighborhood and I'm protected, but

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hate make us realize no matter how privileged

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you are not protected. You might be... You

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could live in the mountain isolate from everything

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else Still hate we'll get you. It doesn't

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get to you you're gonna get to your

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kids.

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So I feel I'm having a child coming

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away right now.

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If I don't do something right now to

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advocate, my cable asked me 20 year, what

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did you do about this problem?

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And again, as a refugee right now, who's

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an Edi refugee financially stable.

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If I'm not the 1 who's ad advocate,

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do I expect the guy was a Cashier

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worker trying to survive and it might in

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neighborhood do as we get for themselves. It

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doesn't make sense. So I have to step

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in public and. What I learned also is

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You can be just part of pointing finger

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each other If you're just saying I'm part

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of this against you, you're really not making

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difference. You gotta reach out to the other

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side and figure out like, why these people

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don't like you visit some thing and my

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big believer is very hard to hate something

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you know.

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So that's why I had to make myself

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visible and available to these community and kinda

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start interacting and learning.

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What this hate coming from and this is

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not the fabric of this country. I know

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we have our own history, but we will

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have moved through some of these problems

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throughout history. So we need to figure out

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way to come to the table and find

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some common ground. And I think the experience

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with Chris that was very important and

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I think at all physician, we forget that

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when we end the public and people recognize

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we are doctors, we have these really superhero

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like invisible power that peep... We recognize many

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top. Like, people look up to us. Imagine

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you're sit in the room telling people I'm

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gonna put you on up with the risk

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for an edema. That person willing to take

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the risk for you because he tell him

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is the right thing to do. Now use

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that same rhetoric and power of convincing people

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that we we should look into to just

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sit on the ground. This let's talk shirt

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that less interact. Think about it, when we

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we have the best social advocate because people

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trust us Is the most trusting room professional

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in the world. So using that power using

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that

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does

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recognizing those privileges we have. Really we can

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make a difference beyond the exam room.

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Thank you doctor Kelly per share and how

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we can really leverage that trust that other

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patients haven't and must doing of that to

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good nukes. And I really like when you

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said about, if someone opens and door for

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you, you pulled and work for the next

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generation. I think It's just a very powerful

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statement because they beat sometimes people they'll go

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into a because they don't see someone like

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themselves. So people see someone like themselves and

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are able to talk to people like you

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and we're likely to aspire to be some

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light, the person that they're being up to.

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And that's been 1 of our missions for

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this narrative cardiology series and making people more

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comfortable having these conversations how other people might

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be dead written and rep recognizing the challenges

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that other space when they're trying to

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established himself in Medicine cardiology,

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so that our field overall can become very

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inclusive.

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And with that correct big events right now,

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we are often dealing with the sense of

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heat amongst different groups of people pour 1

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on another, and it seems like the sense

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like repeats that every a few years when

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different types of groups. And we know that

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even in medicine and,

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structural racism and he is prevalent. I wanna

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hear from your perspective, how do think as

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cor

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we can really work towards making our workplace

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more aggressive and trying to eliminate hate from

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that environment.

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You know, 1 of the thing that challenge

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over the Christmas community was for me to

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prove myself is... I'm not an interventional, but

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Imagine if you went in the case of

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stem, and this is the complex space. And

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you wanna have, like, I'm gonna test my

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skills at the best with this complicated kids

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and make sure the patients survive. If I

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could do this, I could do anything.

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Same thing with me like, I'm like, I'm

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gonna go for the worst of the worst,

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and it was... Chris was a k leader

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in Georgia worst, and he's said to people

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I will talk to

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blacks and Hispanic, but I would not talk

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to Muslim because he lost his friend in

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Afghanistan.

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And we start talking on social media. I

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started talking to him and I realized he

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was a veteran. I told about words working

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And I was doing some lining there and

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then we started developing some common ground. He

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had a child child. We had love for

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certain things. And eventually, he like move to

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the middle, and now he's is actually a

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super advocate fight for anti hate when he

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travels a nation and speaks and

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Our relationship flourish for him into creating a

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program to help others to leave hey. That's

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the same thing I I you know, I

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carry on with Chris, a package show compassion

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to Chris.

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We could do the same thing in our

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workplace. The thing about to strike me a

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lot of time and medicine is, we have

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this thing. When it comes to a patient,

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we walk in the room to strange engine,

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and we are so trying to be compassionate

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understand what they going on. But for some

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reason, that compassion doesn't translates to our colleagues.

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Sometimes,

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We feel like we all have to be

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tough

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I saw you need to suffer. I was

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on a 24 hour call Q 2 in

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my 20 years ago. You gotta do the

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same thing.

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But the the world's changed is not the

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same. I think we need to stop by

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being from compassionate humility to each other. I

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always tell my resonance like, You know, you're

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walk in room and you're so nice to

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missus Smith,

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but you need to be the same, nice

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to your colleague too. For example, I think

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1 other thing that we have

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still long way to go when it comes

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so female, you know, accuracy, and, you, especially

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when pregnant yeah I remember we're... I had

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a pregnant fellow and I will go to

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Her be like, hey, if you need to

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take off, I cover you. If you need

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to leave early, I got you. Let me

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know if you wanna switch your schedule. I

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think it starts with these small things. We

535
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need to be compassionate and to each other

536
00:18:40,310 --> 00:18:42,227
first, before even we show up to our

537
00:18:42,227 --> 00:18:44,720
patient, but somehow the reverse always have And

538
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,160
it to me I trying to always teach

539
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,160
my intern resident and c fellow when I

540
00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,320
was with him. That's the first step compassion

541
00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,840
start with the neighbor next to you first,

542
00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:53,359
then you go to the world and show

543
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,682
it. I think if we practice that, the

544
00:18:55,682 --> 00:18:58,626
humility compassion, our workplace, it will make it

545
00:18:58,626 --> 00:19:00,376
more inclusive and people feel are welcome.

546
00:19:01,029 --> 00:19:02,869
The very important point you made there. I

547
00:19:02,869 --> 00:19:04,730
think 1 thing I noticed in the film

548
00:19:05,029 --> 00:19:07,109
was how you and Chris were able to

549
00:19:07,109 --> 00:19:08,950
feed this friendship and the midst of all

550
00:19:08,950 --> 00:19:10,959
this tension. That was going on around you.

551
00:19:11,198 --> 00:19:13,747
And, like, we also said being compassionate to

552
00:19:13,747 --> 00:19:15,419
our colleagues. I don't think we're often taught

553
00:19:15,419 --> 00:19:17,888
about enough in medical school and in residency

554
00:19:17,888 --> 00:19:20,128
and beyond, we always talk to know compassionate

555
00:19:20,128 --> 00:19:21,739
and show empathy to our patients

556
00:19:22,191 --> 00:19:23,937
rather than each other. So going on for

557
00:19:23,937 --> 00:19:25,603
that, I was curious if you could may

558
00:19:25,603 --> 00:19:27,134
offer some insight to how

559
00:19:27,684 --> 00:19:30,325
react physicians cannot not be sensitive issues, especially

560
00:19:30,325 --> 00:19:32,404
looking at a current political environment today.

561
00:19:32,884 --> 00:19:34,565
If you promised use today, you can see

562
00:19:34,565 --> 00:19:35,765
what's going on in our world and it

563
00:19:35,765 --> 00:19:37,855
didn't part of the country, not much different

564
00:19:37,855 --> 00:19:39,525
from when you were arrived in America a

565
00:19:39,525 --> 00:19:41,832
few years she goes. So by looking at

566
00:19:41,832 --> 00:19:44,695
our credit environment and our social issues, I

567
00:19:45,013 --> 00:19:45,331
America,

568
00:19:46,144 --> 00:19:48,305
Physicians may often be scared to be engaged

569
00:19:48,305 --> 00:19:51,505
or offer their opinion concerning issues, due fears

570
00:19:51,505 --> 00:19:53,505
of being judged or labeled. How do you

571
00:19:53,505 --> 00:19:56,388
think we have physician can properly navigate these

572
00:19:56,388 --> 00:19:58,613
issues without be flu or offensive.

573
00:19:59,248 --> 00:20:02,450
To me, I use methods. I use compassion

574
00:20:02,585 --> 00:20:02,982
humility,

575
00:20:03,714 --> 00:20:05,468
especially when I approached someone who's not in

576
00:20:05,468 --> 00:20:07,780
my profession, you know, and they show prejudice

577
00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:10,013
to army. I focus on my service. I've

578
00:20:10,013 --> 00:20:12,426
been a place. I remember recently there was

579
00:20:12,898 --> 00:20:15,312
A guy welcomed the shirt says veterans over

580
00:20:15,371 --> 00:20:16,886
refugees, and I went in a room. I

581
00:20:16,886 --> 00:20:19,917
took care of the the patient's family. I

582
00:20:19,917 --> 00:20:22,070
show respect. I explained everything to them.

583
00:20:22,883 --> 00:20:24,478
And by another the conversation, I was like,

584
00:20:24,558 --> 00:20:26,392
by the way, I happened to be a

585
00:20:26,392 --> 00:20:27,827
refugee. I came to the guy sit. And

586
00:20:27,827 --> 00:20:29,502
the guy was, like, in shock, I'm talking

587
00:20:29,502 --> 00:20:31,176
about the other. And I'm like, I was

588
00:20:31,176 --> 00:20:33,896
the other. I was exactly that refugee that

589
00:20:33,896 --> 00:20:35,486
maybe was been a value to this country.

590
00:20:35,724 --> 00:20:37,632
I was 18 years old, Muslim refugee.

591
00:20:38,506 --> 00:20:40,653
And I... Something clicked. And when I left

592
00:20:40,653 --> 00:20:42,497
the North told me of the emergency. You

593
00:20:42,497 --> 00:20:44,168
know Was like, hey, you know he apologized

594
00:20:44,168 --> 00:20:46,396
about his shirt. Yeah. And that guy wore

595
00:20:46,396 --> 00:20:48,305
the short publicly key opening, but I walked

596
00:20:48,305 --> 00:20:50,056
in there. I didn't argue with him. I

597
00:20:50,056 --> 00:20:52,460
just showed my service toward the respect to

598
00:20:52,460 --> 00:20:54,691
other family, And I think that's a very

599
00:20:54,691 --> 00:20:56,682
powerful thing. The story if you watched the

600
00:20:56,682 --> 00:20:58,435
movie ar know the guy who was actually

601
00:20:58,435 --> 00:20:59,964
a leader of the Neo Nazi in the

602
00:21:00,044 --> 00:21:02,362
West Coast. He the way he changed and

603
00:21:02,362 --> 00:21:04,599
left their group is by his neighbor showing

604
00:21:04,599 --> 00:21:06,757
compassion toward him who had a father who

605
00:21:06,757 --> 00:21:09,244
was actually killed by Neo nazis. He was

606
00:21:09,244 --> 00:21:11,069
shocked out the sons and the family of

607
00:21:11,069 --> 00:21:13,290
their family was so compassionate and so respectful

608
00:21:13,290 --> 00:21:15,353
to him despite his present.

609
00:21:16,003 --> 00:21:18,735
I think we could achieve more with service

610
00:21:19,191 --> 00:21:20,807
and show compassion, then

611
00:21:21,263 --> 00:21:23,549
then, you know, then like being argument like

612
00:21:23,749 --> 00:21:25,747
pick and sides. Again, there's certain situation. You

613
00:21:25,747 --> 00:21:27,585
have to stand up if you see someone

614
00:21:27,585 --> 00:21:30,142
getting bullied and someone getting hurt, then, of

615
00:21:30,142 --> 00:21:31,740
course, you have to stand when I stop

616
00:21:31,740 --> 00:21:31,900
that.

617
00:21:32,632 --> 00:21:34,698
But also another method I use humor. People

618
00:21:34,698 --> 00:21:36,048
asked me, I always when I was an

619
00:21:36,048 --> 00:21:38,034
interview. I never made a statement against a

620
00:21:38,034 --> 00:21:40,430
political figure. Someone asked me why think Trump

621
00:21:40,430 --> 00:21:40,906
doesn't like.

622
00:21:41,778 --> 00:21:43,363
I was like, baby... Because he hasn't tried

623
00:21:43,363 --> 00:21:45,106
my mother's food yet. We got better season

624
00:21:45,185 --> 00:21:46,533
We got better places.

625
00:21:47,024 --> 00:21:48,295
If you tries move mouse through, it's gonna

626
00:21:48,295 --> 00:21:50,281
be var very hard for to our. So

627
00:21:50,281 --> 00:21:52,188
else you could use humor and to calm

628
00:21:52,188 --> 00:21:52,688
down

629
00:21:53,062 --> 00:21:54,969
the situation. It's like the physician. You walk

630
00:21:54,969 --> 00:21:55,660
in the room

631
00:21:56,017 --> 00:21:57,925
Everyone's very tense. A few tense at the

632
00:21:57,925 --> 00:21:59,516
same time, the whole room is gonna be

633
00:21:59,516 --> 00:22:01,344
much more tense. And you can't anything done.

634
00:22:01,742 --> 00:22:03,570
Sometimes those physicians didn't have to calm down

635
00:22:03,570 --> 00:22:05,002
things, walking out with respect.

636
00:22:05,654 --> 00:22:07,013
Show them that you know what's going on

637
00:22:07,173 --> 00:22:09,010
You got this situation taken care of and

638
00:22:09,010 --> 00:22:10,529
everyone will start calming down listening.

639
00:22:11,008 --> 00:22:13,406
I think there's different way to use that

640
00:22:13,406 --> 00:22:15,414
to find common ground. In the end, we

641
00:22:15,414 --> 00:22:17,798
all humans that we all read the same

642
00:22:17,798 --> 00:22:19,466
air, have the same blood. And when you're

643
00:22:19,466 --> 00:22:20,738
like a someone's echo, you can't really know

644
00:22:20,738 --> 00:22:22,820
if they're black and white. So I think

645
00:22:22,820 --> 00:22:24,808
that's where how we should approach his situation

646
00:22:24,808 --> 00:22:27,217
by hem and compassionate service

647
00:22:27,831 --> 00:22:28,706
in a touch of humor.

648
00:22:29,598 --> 00:22:30,875
Thank you for sharing that up to Kelly,

649
00:22:31,035 --> 00:22:32,871
And it's just really inspiring how you reflect

650
00:22:32,871 --> 00:22:34,946
so positively on your talking experience just to

651
00:22:34,946 --> 00:22:37,921
and really advanced someone that could compassionate and

652
00:22:38,313 --> 00:22:41,171
finds common ground with everyone in the situation

653
00:22:41,171 --> 00:22:41,885
categorize arises.

654
00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,981
And you been a really strong advocate serving

655
00:22:44,981 --> 00:22:48,253
the integrated Ag and minority communities and and

656
00:22:48,253 --> 00:22:50,398
mentioned, really trying to get back to where

657
00:22:50,398 --> 00:22:53,257
you key from and found also several nonprofit

658
00:22:53,257 --> 00:22:55,775
that are focused on medical mentorship and help

659
00:22:55,894 --> 00:22:56,451
your outreach,

660
00:22:56,929 --> 00:22:59,636
including a young position the initiative diet, focuses

661
00:22:59,636 --> 00:23:01,944
on an after school program, I or former

662
00:23:01,944 --> 00:23:04,588
high school with focus on mentorship, 90, a

663
00:23:04,588 --> 00:23:06,605
calming theme that I'm noticing between all these

664
00:23:06,823 --> 00:23:08,260
organizations and also find what you were talking.

665
00:23:08,420 --> 00:23:11,054
About earlier is that it's about providing access

666
00:23:11,054 --> 00:23:13,861
to resources and information to I won bad.

667
00:23:14,181 --> 00:23:17,073
So other people from Like yours can also

668
00:23:17,132 --> 00:23:19,524
aspire and the physicians. And it really means

669
00:23:19,524 --> 00:23:21,598
a lot when people like, your shop invest

670
00:23:21,598 --> 00:23:23,603
in the community and And he we talk

671
00:23:23,603 --> 00:23:25,349
a lot about this in cardiology about the

672
00:23:25,349 --> 00:23:27,808
the heap pipeline and outs so brand to

673
00:23:27,808 --> 00:23:29,871
start Bur to get people into Medicine and

674
00:23:29,871 --> 00:23:33,464
cardiology not just during residency or doing medical

675
00:23:33,464 --> 00:23:35,534
school but even earlier on, like, in high

676
00:23:35,534 --> 00:23:38,082
school? And you've done that through your program.

677
00:23:38,242 --> 00:23:39,730
So what do you think from your perspective

678
00:23:39,849 --> 00:23:41,849
and what are the biggest barriers or obstacles

679
00:23:41,849 --> 00:23:42,349
gold

680
00:23:42,650 --> 00:23:44,490
that are hindering people from entering the field

681
00:23:44,490 --> 00:23:46,650
that medicine or cardiology and how can me

682
00:23:46,650 --> 00:23:49,061
as the collecting Human and us seek to

683
00:23:49,061 --> 00:23:51,451
address these monitors and what are other ways

684
00:23:51,451 --> 00:23:54,079
to help the workforce and cardiology become more

685
00:23:54,079 --> 00:23:56,172
diverse so that it's more inclusive to first

686
00:23:56,309 --> 00:23:58,660
generations demands directly and other minority

687
00:23:59,119 --> 00:23:59,359
populations.

688
00:24:00,079 --> 00:24:01,519
That's a great point you bring it up,

689
00:24:01,759 --> 00:24:03,279
and for media, it was, like,

690
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:05,839
when I went back to my community, my

691
00:24:05,839 --> 00:24:07,370
high school. Spoke and how they told me

692
00:24:07,370 --> 00:24:09,441
only few people became doctor, and I thought

693
00:24:09,441 --> 00:24:10,498
that was pretty

694
00:24:11,034 --> 00:24:11,751
devastating, you know.

695
00:24:12,388 --> 00:24:13,742
Because, you know, you... You know, you feel

696
00:24:13,742 --> 00:24:15,829
good about yourself, you accomplished some but then

697
00:24:15,829 --> 00:24:17,109
you look around me, like, 1 of the

698
00:24:17,109 --> 00:24:18,150
very few people did it.

699
00:24:19,109 --> 00:24:20,869
You know, you've good for you, but what

700
00:24:20,869 --> 00:24:22,390
about for the community. And at same time

701
00:24:22,390 --> 00:24:23,750
was volunteering in the community,

702
00:24:24,244 --> 00:24:25,943
I was seeing people with, you know, high

703
00:24:26,002 --> 00:24:28,740
hypertension, hyper and diabetes, and I was writing

704
00:24:28,879 --> 00:24:31,037
prescription, treating them, But I thought while I

705
00:24:31,037 --> 00:24:32,315
could do this all day long, but I'm

706
00:24:32,315 --> 00:24:34,082
not making of a difference? I need to

707
00:24:34,082 --> 00:24:36,388
create more people like me. The reason I'm

708
00:24:36,388 --> 00:24:37,978
back to this community because I'm from that

709
00:24:37,978 --> 00:24:39,728
community How about more people from this can

710
00:24:39,728 --> 00:24:42,272
become doctors, nurses nurse practitioners, Pas,

711
00:24:43,003 --> 00:24:45,473
we could help so many people more. The

712
00:24:45,473 --> 00:24:47,704
the pipeline could be leaky, there could be

713
00:24:47,704 --> 00:24:49,775
a hundred pipeline in a community if the

714
00:24:49,775 --> 00:24:51,608
kids are not inspired to go through the

715
00:24:51,608 --> 00:24:52,108
pipeline

716
00:24:52,819 --> 00:24:54,736
then it's really the pipeline is useless at

717
00:24:54,736 --> 00:24:56,653
this time. So we need to make these

718
00:24:56,653 --> 00:24:58,171
kids believe they could be part of us.

719
00:24:58,491 --> 00:24:59,943
Because when you look at meta and over

720
00:24:59,943 --> 00:25:02,097
60 70 percent of medical student come from

721
00:25:02,097 --> 00:25:02,895
privileged background.

722
00:25:03,533 --> 00:25:06,406
So the medical school is not representing these

723
00:25:06,406 --> 00:25:09,720
kids. But our worst patient with the worse

724
00:25:09,859 --> 00:25:11,859
outcome technically technique. I'm saying the worst outcome

725
00:25:11,859 --> 00:25:13,859
patient are actually people both from on the

726
00:25:13,859 --> 00:25:14,179
communities.

727
00:25:14,674 --> 00:25:16,748
So medicine not reflecting those excuse. So I

728
00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:18,823
feel like I need to just feed the

729
00:25:18,823 --> 00:25:21,136
pipeline. I'm gonna try and inspire as many

730
00:25:21,136 --> 00:25:23,302
many kids I can to get into the

731
00:25:23,302 --> 00:25:24,893
prime. Even if it's leaky, the pie will

732
00:25:24,893 --> 00:25:27,040
be packed. So we get these kids into

733
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,602
medical school and I start as a fellow

734
00:25:29,602 --> 00:25:31,915
in clocks in high with 1 medical students,

735
00:25:32,394 --> 00:25:34,388
we build a curriculum around the medical student

736
00:25:34,388 --> 00:25:37,099
teaching and because if I tell, if you

737
00:25:37,099 --> 00:25:39,430
mentorship program is revolve our docked It just

738
00:25:39,430 --> 00:25:41,350
prone to failure was the second doctor Ken

739
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:43,109
doesn't have time to run this show that

740
00:25:43,109 --> 00:25:45,350
program would stop. Or what a better advocate

741
00:25:45,350 --> 00:25:46,963
is the master knows how get into medical

742
00:25:46,963 --> 00:25:48,957
school, they just took Mca. They know exactly

743
00:25:48,957 --> 00:25:51,191
the process. So we use the medical student

744
00:25:51,191 --> 00:25:53,026
to teach a curriculum by inviting the doctors

745
00:25:53,026 --> 00:25:54,718
to speak. And I think right now, we're

746
00:25:54,718 --> 00:25:56,956
on 20 plus location around in Georgia. We

747
00:25:56,956 --> 00:25:59,273
have some pilot in Miami, Chicago and tough

748
00:25:59,273 --> 00:26:01,591
medical schools. So we've leveraged a program to

749
00:26:01,591 --> 00:26:03,842
end with minimal funding. If I show my

750
00:26:03,842 --> 00:26:05,837
budget of the program and house running, you'll

751
00:26:05,837 --> 00:26:08,152
be shocked. It's like a very minimal funded,

752
00:26:08,391 --> 00:26:10,966
privately funded by foundation, Georgia Acc

753
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,432
the Acc gave us some grant. So we've

754
00:26:13,432 --> 00:26:15,745
been very good at taking the best out

755
00:26:15,745 --> 00:26:18,297
of the budget and bringing the almost 20

756
00:26:18,297 --> 00:26:20,711
plus high school and colleagues across. And now

757
00:26:21,024 --> 00:26:23,257
Our program is run by the medical students

758
00:26:23,257 --> 00:26:25,171
who actually were pre meds when it came

759
00:26:25,171 --> 00:26:26,846
to our session. So it's kind of a

760
00:26:26,846 --> 00:26:29,159
residency program. That's how we created a residency

761
00:26:29,159 --> 00:26:30,356
program for feeding the pipeline.

762
00:26:31,169 --> 00:26:33,482
I tell people like, I don't believe in

763
00:26:33,482 --> 00:26:35,238
a helicopter mission. I don't believe it's just

764
00:26:35,238 --> 00:26:36,754
going to the community to do something for

765
00:26:36,754 --> 00:26:38,845
a day and leave. I feel like We

766
00:26:38,845 --> 00:26:40,765
need to find sustainable way to stay the

767
00:26:40,765 --> 00:26:42,684
community because that's only we could build trust

768
00:26:42,684 --> 00:26:45,164
and how you create more success. So that's

769
00:26:45,164 --> 00:26:47,175
my model. And It was all inspired because

770
00:26:47,255 --> 00:26:48,371
I was like, we need to get more

771
00:26:48,371 --> 00:26:50,445
people like, me and myself and other from

772
00:26:50,445 --> 00:26:52,119
my community into medicine.

773
00:26:52,837 --> 00:26:55,562
I think that's so important, not access including

774
00:26:55,562 --> 00:26:58,052
time medicine, especially having these people

775
00:26:58,507 --> 00:27:00,894
eventually as future physicians come back to the

776
00:27:00,894 --> 00:27:03,919
communities and solve the very issues every encounter

777
00:27:03,919 --> 00:27:04,316
medicine.

778
00:27:04,888 --> 00:27:07,035
So not only do you have infants in

779
00:27:07,035 --> 00:27:09,738
creating access and increasing diversity medicine. I see

780
00:27:09,738 --> 00:27:12,147
that you also have interest in refugee cardiovascular

781
00:27:12,283 --> 00:27:14,290
health? So I was curious to see if

782
00:27:14,290 --> 00:27:15,885
you may be able to expand on the

783
00:27:15,885 --> 00:27:19,474
specific disparities that exist then refugee Cardiovascular Health.

784
00:27:20,033 --> 00:27:22,686
And how we are the cardiovascular community

785
00:27:22,998 --> 00:27:24,133
can work to Jessie

786
00:27:24,506 --> 00:27:24,744
issues.

787
00:27:25,458 --> 00:27:26,831
It's tough because

788
00:27:27,363 --> 00:27:30,299
refugees and immigrants, they come from countries where

789
00:27:30,299 --> 00:27:31,092
prevention doesn't exist.

790
00:27:32,219 --> 00:27:33,808
Go to the doctor is like when I'm

791
00:27:33,808 --> 00:27:36,192
sick. Like, the mentality Of going to doctor

792
00:27:36,192 --> 00:27:38,258
check your cholesterol c and just make sure

793
00:27:38,258 --> 00:27:39,768
you're okay even though you feel good.

794
00:27:40,577 --> 00:27:42,646
That concept doesn't like exist in many countries.

795
00:27:43,123 --> 00:27:44,873
So I had always tell all my colleague

796
00:27:44,873 --> 00:27:47,854
just keep that in mind, getting refugees and

797
00:27:47,910 --> 00:27:49,580
educating their kids and families to get into

798
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:51,830
the clinic to get there, Number november check

799
00:27:52,045 --> 00:27:53,795
is a big deal. To get him to

800
00:27:53,795 --> 00:27:55,624
check their blood pressure when they're not feeling

801
00:27:55,624 --> 00:27:57,948
sick, that's a big deal. So we're trying

802
00:27:57,948 --> 00:28:00,585
to use, like very simple metrics in our

803
00:28:00,585 --> 00:28:03,381
local community by just teaching people out to

804
00:28:03,381 --> 00:28:05,234
check their blood pressure. What it means to

805
00:28:05,234 --> 00:28:06,914
get a mammogram. What it means to just

806
00:28:06,914 --> 00:28:07,894
go get a colonoscopy

807
00:28:08,515 --> 00:28:11,315
and teaching the kids because honestly, in every

808
00:28:11,315 --> 00:28:12,194
refugee family,

809
00:28:12,769 --> 00:28:15,319
first generation, the kids are the parents. The

810
00:28:15,319 --> 00:28:17,152
1 who speak English in the family is

811
00:28:17,152 --> 00:28:20,601
technically the the moment that kinda replacement because

812
00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:22,584
They mom and dad trying to survive,

813
00:28:23,299 --> 00:28:25,209
pay the rent, get things done for the

814
00:28:25,209 --> 00:28:26,959
kids, and the kids was speaking english I

815
00:28:26,959 --> 00:28:28,868
mainly they inter trying to get the family

816
00:28:28,868 --> 00:28:30,791
through. So I would say a focus on

817
00:28:30,791 --> 00:28:32,381
the kids. You get a teenager from a

818
00:28:32,381 --> 00:28:34,288
family who will speak English. That's probably the

819
00:28:34,288 --> 00:28:35,242
best health added of the kid.

820
00:28:35,957 --> 00:28:37,801
And you have to start very simple. And

821
00:28:37,801 --> 00:28:39,552
also, right now with the age of Ai

822
00:28:39,552 --> 00:28:40,132
and technology,

823
00:28:40,746 --> 00:28:42,975
providing material that there's in different language should

824
00:28:42,975 --> 00:28:44,089
be much easier than before.

825
00:28:44,726 --> 00:28:46,158
And I'll tell you people will stop using

826
00:28:46,158 --> 00:28:46,477
papers,

827
00:28:47,287 --> 00:28:49,432
Every refugee has a smartphone because they use

828
00:28:49,511 --> 00:28:51,179
Whatsapp and viper to call the family.

829
00:28:51,735 --> 00:28:53,721
Leverage technology in and favorite is so many

830
00:28:53,721 --> 00:28:55,628
things decreased technology for. I tell I teach

831
00:28:55,628 --> 00:28:57,952
all my ami refugee kids, take a picture

832
00:28:57,952 --> 00:29:00,846
of your medication. To slide like you grandkids

833
00:29:00,985 --> 00:29:02,820
and take a picture, and just take it

834
00:29:02,820 --> 00:29:04,656
to every appointment, the doctor will know exactly

835
00:29:04,656 --> 00:29:06,425
where you're taken. If I have a patient

836
00:29:06,425 --> 00:29:08,336
has an abnormal Ekg based on the left

837
00:29:08,336 --> 00:29:09,850
bundle, I just make him take a picture

838
00:29:09,850 --> 00:29:11,682
of it and make a look a when

839
00:29:11,841 --> 00:29:12,739
I've put my

840
00:29:13,195 --> 00:29:14,151
information in your contact,

841
00:29:14,563 --> 00:29:17,109
and that that picture profile is your Ekg.

842
00:29:17,347 --> 00:29:18,700
So you show up in any Ed you

843
00:29:18,700 --> 00:29:20,529
could show them that Ekg and because know

844
00:29:20,529 --> 00:29:22,610
exactly that's your base. This simple thing we

845
00:29:22,610 --> 00:29:25,253
could leverage technology that doesn't require much language

846
00:29:25,388 --> 00:29:26,657
that we can help a lot of refugee.

847
00:29:27,134 --> 00:29:28,824
I think the biggest barrier is a language

848
00:29:29,214 --> 00:29:30,652
but also if you could find an ad

849
00:29:30,652 --> 00:29:32,431
and the family, that's gonna be your best

850
00:29:32,570 --> 00:29:33,848
advocate to make a difference in their lives.

851
00:29:34,727 --> 00:29:36,405
I was the 1 person farm family. I'm

852
00:29:36,405 --> 00:29:37,928
don't know who encouraged my mom to get

853
00:29:37,928 --> 00:29:39,274
a my Gonna check hey went see him

854
00:29:39,274 --> 00:29:40,463
liquid. I wasn't the 1 who made sure

855
00:29:40,463 --> 00:29:42,602
my dad got the doctor, and I was

856
00:29:42,602 --> 00:29:43,815
18 years old. So

857
00:29:44,202 --> 00:29:45,867
it wasn't them that we're trying to take

858
00:29:45,867 --> 00:29:47,215
care of the. Was me they're trying to

859
00:29:47,215 --> 00:29:47,612
do there.

860
00:29:48,643 --> 00:29:51,339
But again, just like Americans and from underserved

861
00:29:51,339 --> 00:29:51,656
community,

862
00:29:52,308 --> 00:29:54,223
refugee with mental health issue. And that's something

863
00:29:54,223 --> 00:29:55,202
a whole different

864
00:29:56,138 --> 00:29:58,132
topic. I think we are so behind in

865
00:29:58,132 --> 00:30:00,457
this country that leads invest more, and refugee

866
00:30:00,457 --> 00:30:02,627
deal with this on a Max level. But

867
00:30:03,082 --> 00:30:04,753
I see a lot of resilience, and nothing

868
00:30:04,753 --> 00:30:06,836
like I'm trying to still understand how come

869
00:30:06,836 --> 00:30:08,504
these people come from the war zone them

870
00:30:08,504 --> 00:30:10,411
from the worst environment, come to a new

871
00:30:10,411 --> 00:30:11,285
country learn language,

872
00:30:12,238 --> 00:30:14,874
making an ends meet get their kids educated

873
00:30:14,874 --> 00:30:17,018
and still dealing with their issues. That's something

874
00:30:17,177 --> 00:30:18,765
I still have to figure out how we

875
00:30:18,765 --> 00:30:20,830
managing this. And it cost of resilience and

876
00:30:20,830 --> 00:30:23,147
things still That's very well understood it in

877
00:30:23,147 --> 00:30:23,703
in medicine.

878
00:30:24,338 --> 00:30:26,323
Yeah. The resilience stuff when your were inspiring

879
00:30:26,323 --> 00:30:28,093
and really, hadn't mentioned the

880
00:30:28,545 --> 00:30:31,355
prevention for refugees and for immigrant communities. It's

881
00:30:31,355 --> 00:30:33,514
inherent, not just target the adults and the

882
00:30:33,514 --> 00:30:35,355
people were having the disease, that's started from

883
00:30:35,355 --> 00:30:37,764
the kids who often oftentimes. The ones that

884
00:30:37,764 --> 00:30:40,887
can advocate for their parents or grandparents. And

885
00:30:41,102 --> 00:30:43,033
you talked a little bit about leveraging technology

886
00:30:43,169 --> 00:30:45,554
and how can use that to better educate

887
00:30:45,554 --> 00:30:48,272
patients? And I also noticed saying Den were

888
00:30:48,272 --> 00:30:50,420
related to mobile low health initiatives and how

889
00:30:50,420 --> 00:30:53,147
we can leverage technology for that, Standpoint. We

890
00:30:53,379 --> 00:30:56,011
to address prevention topics and medical metabolic killed

891
00:30:56,011 --> 00:30:57,048
and metabolic syndrome.

892
00:30:57,527 --> 00:30:59,281
Premier perspective, how do you think that mobile

893
00:30:59,281 --> 00:31:01,195
health technologies and some of your work related

894
00:31:01,195 --> 00:31:03,443
to not can be used to bring held

895
00:31:03,443 --> 00:31:05,276
the education went the ones that you mentioned

896
00:31:05,276 --> 00:31:07,188
to the people that are underserved or and

897
00:31:07,188 --> 00:31:10,867
while vulnerable in in the American population. I

898
00:31:10,867 --> 00:31:13,253
mean, is by simply just show them how

899
00:31:13,253 --> 00:31:15,480
to take pictures, save it in in note

900
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:16,275
notes area,

901
00:31:16,911 --> 00:31:18,875
give them the information and let them actually

902
00:31:19,154 --> 00:31:20,910
preserve it as in digital format. That was

903
00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:22,666
the biggest thing that I taught on my

904
00:31:22,666 --> 00:31:22,905
patient.

905
00:31:23,544 --> 00:31:25,220
There was a lot of apps about pressure

906
00:31:25,220 --> 00:31:26,497
check apps and all that we used that,

907
00:31:26,656 --> 00:31:27,509
but I think

908
00:31:27,947 --> 00:31:30,416
we already beyond the mobile technology. I think

909
00:31:30,416 --> 00:31:32,804
ai is gonna change that. I think language

910
00:31:32,804 --> 00:31:34,397
is gonna be a relative thing in the

911
00:31:34,397 --> 00:31:35,852
future. It's already existing

912
00:31:36,163 --> 00:31:37,995
use models where you could just speak, and

913
00:31:37,995 --> 00:31:39,985
the language real time was getting translated. I

914
00:31:39,985 --> 00:31:42,692
think language gonna be just not an issue

915
00:31:42,692 --> 00:31:44,855
anymore in few years And I think we

916
00:31:44,855 --> 00:31:46,784
just need to prepare as physician

917
00:31:47,157 --> 00:31:48,745
to just know how we could use Ai

918
00:31:48,745 --> 00:31:49,619
in our favor.

919
00:31:50,175 --> 00:31:52,183
I will say Ai is like the when

920
00:31:52,414 --> 00:31:54,724
people stop using money using credit card, everyone's

921
00:31:54,724 --> 00:31:56,238
afraid that the bank will steal your money.

922
00:31:56,557 --> 00:31:58,230
Everyone's so afraid of Ai, and I'm using

923
00:31:58,230 --> 00:32:00,062
it. I was telling today my wife about

924
00:32:00,062 --> 00:32:03,182
how chad Has this now Party Cr, and

925
00:32:03,262 --> 00:32:06,126
I'm training it my cardiology guidelines. Literally, I

926
00:32:06,126 --> 00:32:07,558
could give you a very simple example.

927
00:32:08,115 --> 00:32:09,627
I city, I trained a part on all

928
00:32:09,627 --> 00:32:10,843
the guidelines for lipids

929
00:32:11,153 --> 00:32:13,215
and I told him give me like, the

930
00:32:13,215 --> 00:32:14,905
the most updated tri hyper

931
00:32:15,515 --> 00:32:17,260
management. It gave me, like all the classes.

932
00:32:17,340 --> 00:32:18,688
And then I'll say, give me the drugs

933
00:32:18,688 --> 00:32:20,378
the more Gave me not only the drugs

934
00:32:20,378 --> 00:32:21,896
that gave me all the drugs and trial,

935
00:32:22,376 --> 00:32:23,974
and I say give me all the dosing

936
00:32:23,974 --> 00:32:26,371
for each drug, and it did that. That

937
00:32:26,371 --> 00:32:27,490
took 30 seconds.

938
00:32:28,301 --> 00:32:30,205
In 30 second while I'm talking to the

939
00:32:30,205 --> 00:32:31,951
patient, I could actually extract oh, and I

940
00:32:31,951 --> 00:32:33,221
trained the part to do that, and it

941
00:32:33,221 --> 00:32:35,443
was very accurate was extract all the data

942
00:32:35,443 --> 00:32:36,157
from the guidelines.

943
00:32:36,649 --> 00:32:38,407
So I think we should able to use

944
00:32:38,407 --> 00:32:40,245
some these technology to make our job easier,

945
00:32:40,405 --> 00:32:42,323
but also serve the community in better ways

946
00:32:42,323 --> 00:32:42,483
too.

947
00:32:43,362 --> 00:32:45,494
And also the Cdc does a great job

948
00:32:45,772 --> 00:32:48,415
of creating profile of certain immigrant groups and

949
00:32:48,470 --> 00:32:49,740
and what are the issue issue main issue

950
00:32:49,740 --> 00:32:52,120
they're dealing with? I just recently discovered it,

951
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:54,362
so The government has a lot of good

952
00:32:54,362 --> 00:32:56,272
data on. If you have interest in working

953
00:32:56,272 --> 00:32:58,580
with certain community like the organic community, there's

954
00:32:58,580 --> 00:33:00,172
a lot of good data from the Cdc

955
00:33:00,172 --> 00:33:01,445
on what they're dealing with a lot of

956
00:33:01,445 --> 00:33:02,615
the main issues are,

957
00:33:03,450 --> 00:33:04,961
but get comfortable with the eye that's what

958
00:33:05,041 --> 00:33:06,553
I tell my physician. It's not gonna replace

959
00:33:06,553 --> 00:33:08,542
our job, but it definitely can make our

960
00:33:08,542 --> 00:33:08,940
job better.

961
00:33:10,149 --> 00:33:12,143
And although that's your brought up the intersection

962
00:33:12,143 --> 00:33:13,818
team in Medicine Api. I feel like there's

963
00:33:13,818 --> 00:33:16,051
a lot of work going on. I'm currently.

964
00:33:16,450 --> 00:33:19,162
Trying to combine the healthcare Ai and trying

965
00:33:19,162 --> 00:33:21,563
to improve our practice. I'm excited to see

966
00:33:21,563 --> 00:33:24,027
what the future holds for that. And I'm

967
00:33:24,027 --> 00:33:26,412
sure on his call. There's probably a future.

968
00:33:26,650 --> 00:33:29,446
It's inspiring cardiologist and cardiologist on the for

969
00:33:29,446 --> 00:33:29,922
right now.

970
00:33:30,556 --> 00:33:32,695
For those interested that in training and cardiology.

971
00:33:33,013 --> 00:33:34,756
What is some pertinent and pieces of advice

972
00:33:34,756 --> 00:33:36,287
you feel important to know

973
00:33:36,674 --> 00:33:38,434
In addition to that, what do you wish

974
00:33:38,434 --> 00:33:40,695
someone would've have told you while you're appliance

975
00:33:40,755 --> 00:33:41,394
for cardiology.

976
00:33:42,115 --> 00:33:44,434
But it is... And I don't wanna sound

977
00:33:44,434 --> 00:33:47,155
old, but every year is getting more competitive

978
00:33:47,155 --> 00:33:49,299
different especially, and I just met a medical

979
00:33:49,299 --> 00:33:52,158
student from Emery who just me emailing me

980
00:33:52,158 --> 00:33:53,270
and wanted to be a cardiologist.

981
00:33:53,603 --> 00:33:55,989
People are the mess schools start preparing for

982
00:33:55,989 --> 00:33:58,477
getting into cardiology fellowship because I think just

983
00:33:58,693 --> 00:34:01,158
people realize it as a very diverse field

984
00:34:01,158 --> 00:34:03,963
and It's almost like a general cardiology, technically

985
00:34:03,963 --> 00:34:05,797
a primary care of cardiology. And there's so

986
00:34:05,797 --> 00:34:06,834
many subs specialty,

987
00:34:07,313 --> 00:34:09,227
all the structural stuff that's going on is

988
00:34:09,227 --> 00:34:11,380
very exciting. All the new drugs are coming

989
00:34:11,380 --> 00:34:11,755
out

990
00:34:12,194 --> 00:34:13,795
I just help people like find a mentor.

991
00:34:14,114 --> 00:34:16,194
And more importantly find a sponsor.

992
00:34:16,674 --> 00:34:18,914
You know, you could find many mentors who

993
00:34:18,914 --> 00:34:21,006
could maybe guide you an aspect of cardiology,

994
00:34:21,245 --> 00:34:23,239
but find someone who's your advocate who's gonna

995
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,871
say, okay, I like your story. I like

996
00:34:25,871 --> 00:34:27,706
your passion. I'm gonna make sure you're gonna

997
00:34:27,706 --> 00:34:29,835
join off field. You want that doctor who

998
00:34:30,114 --> 00:34:31,629
where the is gonna add to advocate for.

999
00:34:31,869 --> 00:34:34,899
That's the most critical piece because and honestly,

1000
00:34:35,139 --> 00:34:37,292
I tell people, it is not how smart

1001
00:34:37,292 --> 00:34:39,126
you are is gonna impress people. You guys

1002
00:34:39,126 --> 00:34:39,786
are resident

1003
00:34:40,098 --> 00:34:42,163
Your best intern was the smartest intern. Your

1004
00:34:42,163 --> 00:34:44,228
best intern was a person who is ready

1005
00:34:44,228 --> 00:34:46,769
to go round, took care of everything sharp

1006
00:34:46,769 --> 00:34:48,993
early in the morning. Stay late done the

1007
00:34:48,993 --> 00:34:50,753
work. That's the best doctor.

1008
00:34:51,705 --> 00:34:53,688
Intelligence relative, like I told you, I created

1009
00:34:53,688 --> 00:34:55,592
this part that could answer any question curiosity

1010
00:34:55,592 --> 00:34:58,066
in 30 seconds. You could turn around, take

1011
00:34:58,066 --> 00:34:59,335
a phone call I can answer your question.

1012
00:34:59,494 --> 00:35:02,429
So intelligence becoming relative. I think hard work,

1013
00:35:03,222 --> 00:35:04,983
dedication is the most important thing. Because I

1014
00:35:04,983 --> 00:35:06,657
always will tell my intern, I could teach

1015
00:35:06,657 --> 00:35:08,807
you how to speak English. I could repeat

1016
00:35:08,807 --> 00:35:10,481
my name to your a hundred time. I

1017
00:35:10,481 --> 00:35:12,472
could teach your medicine, but I cannot teach

1018
00:35:12,472 --> 00:35:15,356
it on time and be professional. That's something

1019
00:35:15,356 --> 00:35:17,349
you have to really learn from your mentors

1020
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:19,046
and actually learn the wrong way. So

1021
00:35:19,423 --> 00:35:21,655
am Advice to anyone in any field? This

1022
00:35:21,655 --> 00:35:24,061
work hard, there's no shortcuts. Just and people

1023
00:35:24,061 --> 00:35:25,731
love to be around people who work hard

1024
00:35:25,731 --> 00:35:27,004
and interested in the field.

1025
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:28,992
I know what you guys experience. I mean,

1026
00:35:29,072 --> 00:35:30,916
you guys are right now residents and you

1027
00:35:30,916 --> 00:35:32,985
had interns Ms students What do you experienced

1028
00:35:32,985 --> 00:35:34,735
spend with working people who really interested in

1029
00:35:34,735 --> 00:35:36,804
cardiology and when it do it. Yeah. Know.

1030
00:35:36,884 --> 00:35:38,970
It's really true about that broke mindset that

1031
00:35:38,970 --> 00:35:41,282
people that are there to learn and are

1032
00:35:41,282 --> 00:35:43,994
really looking to be rid themselves, and That

1033
00:35:43,994 --> 00:35:46,067
I was really powerful you mentioned Doctor Kelly

1034
00:35:46,067 --> 00:35:46,567
and

1035
00:35:46,879 --> 00:35:48,793
1 thing that we always like to ask

1036
00:35:48,793 --> 00:35:50,229
everyone on the show. I can already hear

1037
00:35:50,229 --> 00:35:51,983
your passion for everything that you did within

1038
00:35:51,983 --> 00:35:53,978
cardiology and also So you're honored to see

1039
00:35:53,978 --> 00:35:54,478
for

1040
00:35:55,254 --> 00:35:56,232
making others

1041
00:35:56,863 --> 00:35:58,373
be able to follow that path and you

1042
00:35:58,373 --> 00:36:01,074
did is what makes your heart flutter about

1043
00:36:01,074 --> 00:36:03,140
the shield and inbound or daily day to

1044
00:36:03,140 --> 00:36:05,229
day, work with patients and

1045
00:36:06,095 --> 00:36:08,161
advocacy for, for generation immigrants.

1046
00:36:08,797 --> 00:36:11,101
I just love preventing hard disease. I was

1047
00:36:11,101 --> 00:36:13,327
blessed to work with doctor sp dot C,

1048
00:36:13,406 --> 00:36:15,987
which are a really great preventive cardiologist and

1049
00:36:16,123 --> 00:36:18,585
it just catching disease that early stages on

1050
00:36:18,585 --> 00:36:21,048
working on like preventative, and and that's something

1051
00:36:21,128 --> 00:36:22,815
I love it. When I see an elevator

1052
00:36:22,815 --> 00:36:24,968
calcium score and like, that's great. We could

1053
00:36:24,968 --> 00:36:26,962
just catch this and start early and working

1054
00:36:26,962 --> 00:36:28,556
on the lipids, and put you on some

1055
00:36:28,556 --> 00:36:29,753
ass you know, like working on some of

1056
00:36:29,753 --> 00:36:31,676
the risk factor. That's what I love. I

1057
00:36:31,676 --> 00:36:34,160
also love helping patient over the secondary

1058
00:36:34,692 --> 00:36:36,359
prevention. I feel like I feel is so

1059
00:36:36,359 --> 00:36:38,159
evolving. I'll tell you this when I was

1060
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Into resident, we don't have interest on for

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sig and all these drugs.

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These drugs are changing heart is. It's amazing.

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Right, Within 5 to 10 years, we have

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the some of the best drug ever exists

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00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,387
heart failure. So I'm just saying like, to

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me is this is a wonderful thing just

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to Be right now have be a part

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00:36:54,464 --> 00:36:56,219
of a field that's evolving all the time.

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And well, I were working with cardiologist who've

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been practicing for 4 years when they tell

1071
00:37:00,126 --> 00:37:02,693
me they only had nit heparin and dig

1072
00:37:02,693 --> 00:37:04,128
jo back in the days. And look at

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00:37:04,128 --> 00:37:05,983
it now. Like, those are drugs we just

1074
00:37:06,121 --> 00:37:07,875
don't use first. So I'm just saying, like,

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00:37:08,034 --> 00:37:10,027
the feel is evolving so fast, and I

1076
00:37:10,027 --> 00:37:11,793
like it, you know? And and just, you

1077
00:37:11,793 --> 00:37:14,097
know, saving lives honestly. And like I said,

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00:37:14,494 --> 00:37:16,956
everyone, I tell everyone needs to here. Either

1079
00:37:16,956 --> 00:37:18,385
you have a family who has the heart

1080
00:37:18,385 --> 00:37:20,783
disease order You don't have hard this disease

1081
00:37:20,783 --> 00:37:23,482
yet and just unfortunately part of our society

1082
00:37:23,482 --> 00:37:25,864
how we eat and how lack of exercise

1083
00:37:25,864 --> 00:37:27,625
is leading to this. But I think as

1084
00:37:27,704 --> 00:37:29,529
Cardiologist, we could motivate people by some of

1085
00:37:29,529 --> 00:37:32,465
these early prevention methods you know, by saying,

1086
00:37:32,623 --> 00:37:33,972
hey, you know, you gotta look, you know,

1087
00:37:34,543 --> 00:37:36,134
Casting score is Elevator. Maybe we need to

1088
00:37:36,134 --> 00:37:38,441
start exercising working on your weight. And we

1089
00:37:38,441 --> 00:37:40,271
also also have more tools now for people

1090
00:37:40,271 --> 00:37:40,907
to use too.

1091
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,435
Yeah. Definitely so sending bio not just the

1092
00:37:44,435 --> 00:37:46,054
medications tools but all the

1093
00:37:46,672 --> 00:37:49,001
has cardiology to the Ai and a lot

1094
00:37:49,001 --> 00:37:51,699
of changing things that madison, But it's been

1095
00:37:51,699 --> 00:37:53,602
so powerful doctor Tell you to have here

1096
00:37:53,602 --> 00:37:56,140
to hear about her journey and where you

1097
00:37:56,140 --> 00:37:58,141
got yourself having got her herself to this

1098
00:37:58,141 --> 00:38:00,683
point today and how he really carrying that

1099
00:38:00,683 --> 00:38:03,464
compassion and humility when you swelling you serve

1100
00:38:03,464 --> 00:38:06,021
patients, but also long served med. On the

1101
00:38:06,021 --> 00:38:08,326
unity from key from so that others can

1102
00:38:08,326 --> 00:38:10,630
fall your seb. So you're ad because he

1103
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:12,219
really seeks a lot in... It's been a

1104
00:38:12,219 --> 00:38:14,699
lot to learn from you, but also lot

1105
00:38:14,699 --> 00:38:16,373
to work left don as I listen to

1106
00:38:16,373 --> 00:38:18,605
this recording again. I just really wanna thank

1107
00:38:18,605 --> 00:38:20,598
you for taking out time this evening to

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00:38:20,598 --> 00:38:22,613
share your inspiring and he with the car.

1109
00:38:23,403 --> 00:38:24,834
No. Thank you so much as an honor.

1110
00:38:24,993 --> 00:38:26,742
Every time I get an invited to speak

1111
00:38:26,742 --> 00:38:29,707
somewhere to speak, I feel very blessed because

1112
00:38:30,081 --> 00:38:32,149
years ago, when Was applying to medical school

1113
00:38:32,149 --> 00:38:34,231
and again. Wasn't the perfect ken. I'm the

1114
00:38:34,231 --> 00:38:36,934
1 who applied twice, and I was out

1115
00:38:36,934 --> 00:38:38,365
myself at that time. I'm ever gonna be

1116
00:38:38,365 --> 00:38:40,671
a doctor. I don't think anyone cares about

1117
00:38:40,671 --> 00:38:42,201
my story. And now sitting in front of

1118
00:38:42,201 --> 00:38:44,855
you guys sharing the story, just engaging

1119
00:38:45,232 --> 00:38:47,465
still very powerful and blessing to me. I

1120
00:38:47,465 --> 00:38:49,300
feel like I'm very lucky to be able

1121
00:38:49,300 --> 00:38:51,388
to do that every time. So Thank you

1122
00:38:51,388 --> 00:38:52,664
so much for you guys is work and

1123
00:38:52,664 --> 00:38:54,260
what you guys doing for the community and

1124
00:38:54,260 --> 00:38:56,493
educating others too. Yeah. Thinking doctor to Kelly

1125
00:38:56,652 --> 00:38:58,965
I learned so much more, even more so

1126
00:38:58,965 --> 00:39:00,934
than I... Before I started the call. So

1127
00:39:01,214 --> 00:39:03,449
I encourage anyone on the call. I looking

1128
00:39:03,449 --> 00:39:05,525
into his work. Watched him will be, going

1129
00:39:05,525 --> 00:39:07,520
on his website, go on and see what

1130
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,356
products is she's involved. I think it's very

1131
00:39:09,356 --> 00:39:09,675
inspiring.

1132
00:39:10,249 --> 00:39:11,606
Not only, if you wanna be a future

1133
00:39:11,606 --> 00:39:14,719
cardiologist, but just a future physician or any

1134
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,395
career choice path that you decide to take

1135
00:39:16,395 --> 00:39:18,310
on. So, I learned lot and you hope

1136
00:39:18,310 --> 00:39:19,923
everyone could time to learn more. So thank

1137
00:39:19,923 --> 00:39:20,882
you again for today.

1138
00:39:22,081 --> 00:39:24,179
No. Thank you. If you have any question

1139
00:39:24,238 --> 00:39:26,156
anyone, just email me. I respond to all

1140
00:39:26,156 --> 00:39:28,323
my email then. That's something I made a

1141
00:39:28,323 --> 00:39:30,391
promise to myself. If I become a doctor,

1142
00:39:30,550 --> 00:39:32,619
I'm gonna respond to everyone's email it'll email

1143
00:39:32,619 --> 00:39:34,782
me about when be meant what I wanna

1144
00:39:34,782 --> 00:39:36,614
get into medical school, what Do whatever I

1145
00:39:36,614 --> 00:39:38,526
wanna do. I'm doing right now. So thank

1146
00:39:38,526 --> 00:39:40,438
you. Thank you, So much, Kelly.

1147
00:39:41,872 --> 00:39:44,514
Thanks for tuning in to another nerds episode.

1148
00:39:44,752 --> 00:39:47,931
The audio editing for this episode was performed

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00:39:47,931 --> 00:39:51,109
in me, Chelsea Ammo Tri. I'm an intern

1150
00:39:51,109 --> 00:39:53,831
in their cardio nerds Academy household tossing and

1151
00:39:53,831 --> 00:39:56,167
a resident at the Stony Brick University Hospital

1152
00:39:56,225 --> 00:39:58,220
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