1 00:00:00,399 --> 00:00:03,279 Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Mariah 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:05,440 Taylor, assistant editor, and I'm thrilled to be 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:09,300 interviewing Greg Reese, an interventional cardiologist at UPMC 4 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,240 on the podcast today. Greg, thank you so 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:14,559 much for joining me. I'm really excited to 6 00:00:14,559 --> 00:00:16,614 talk more about the work you're doing in 7 00:00:16,614 --> 00:00:19,815 cardiology care. But before we dive into that, 8 00:00:19,815 --> 00:00:21,574 I'd love you to introduce yourself and tell 9 00:00:21,574 --> 00:00:22,954 us a little bit about your background. 10 00:00:23,975 --> 00:00:26,135 Oh, thank you, Mariah, very much, for having 11 00:00:26,135 --> 00:00:27,114 me on the podcast. 12 00:00:27,975 --> 00:00:29,734 Well, let's see. I, grew up in New 13 00:00:29,734 --> 00:00:31,949 York City. I went to Penn State, 14 00:00:32,670 --> 00:00:35,409 went to Cornell Medical, and did my, 15 00:00:36,109 --> 00:00:39,310 residency fellowship training in Boston at Beth Israel 16 00:00:39,310 --> 00:00:39,810 Hospital. 17 00:00:40,350 --> 00:00:43,549 I practiced in Philadelphia for many years and, 18 00:00:43,870 --> 00:00:46,429 came to South Central Pennsylvania about eight years 19 00:00:46,429 --> 00:00:46,929 ago. 20 00:00:47,875 --> 00:00:48,375 Excellent. 21 00:00:48,994 --> 00:00:51,234 Now I hear that you over there at 22 00:00:51,234 --> 00:00:54,034 UPMC are doing some really interesting stuff in 23 00:00:54,034 --> 00:00:56,274 STEMI. So can you walk us through how 24 00:00:56,274 --> 00:00:57,975 the STEMI system is working? 25 00:00:58,914 --> 00:01:01,954 Of course. Well, we have a, STEMI alert 26 00:01:01,954 --> 00:01:04,069 system as, you know, most hospitals, 27 00:01:04,530 --> 00:01:06,790 do that have on-site interventional cardiology. 28 00:01:07,489 --> 00:01:09,489 And the way it works is we have 29 00:01:09,489 --> 00:01:10,709 a interventional cardiologist, 30 00:01:11,409 --> 00:01:12,870 at our hospital, 31 00:01:13,250 --> 00:01:15,750 all of our hospitals, but mine in particular 32 00:01:15,890 --> 00:01:17,430 is is here in York, Pennsylvania. 33 00:01:18,155 --> 00:01:22,094 We have, an interventional cardiologist on call 247, 34 00:01:23,114 --> 00:01:25,055 always within thirty minutes of the hospital. 35 00:01:25,515 --> 00:01:26,474 We also have, 36 00:01:26,875 --> 00:01:27,935 cardio cardiovascular 37 00:01:28,394 --> 00:01:29,694 technicians and nurses, 38 00:01:30,180 --> 00:01:32,359 also within thirty minutes of the hospital, 39 00:01:32,740 --> 00:01:34,680 on call twenty four seven. So 40 00:01:35,060 --> 00:01:37,400 if a patient comes into the ER 41 00:01:37,700 --> 00:01:40,260 or if the EMS team alerts us that 42 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:41,799 they have a STEMI in the field, 43 00:01:43,275 --> 00:01:46,015 we have both activation both via cell phone 44 00:01:46,314 --> 00:01:47,055 and via, 45 00:01:47,995 --> 00:01:50,635 pagers. You know, the nineteen eighties are calling, 46 00:01:50,635 --> 00:01:52,334 and they want their technology back. 47 00:01:52,954 --> 00:01:54,635 But we have that as well because there 48 00:01:54,635 --> 00:01:56,715 are some, dead zones where cell phones don't 49 00:01:56,715 --> 00:01:56,969 work. 50 00:01:57,530 --> 00:01:59,930 So we have multiple, modes of alert, and, 51 00:02:00,250 --> 00:02:01,950 you know, the team, mobilizes 52 00:02:02,409 --> 00:02:04,890 and comes in. You know, our goal, of 53 00:02:04,890 --> 00:02:07,069 course, is to be in within thirty minutes 54 00:02:07,130 --> 00:02:07,609 and, 55 00:02:08,009 --> 00:02:10,650 to have the patient in the cath lab, 56 00:02:11,344 --> 00:02:13,985 on the table, getting the procedure, and have 57 00:02:13,985 --> 00:02:14,485 the, 58 00:02:15,264 --> 00:02:18,465 artery open, ideally within thirty minutes after that. 59 00:02:18,625 --> 00:02:20,164 There is a ninety minute, 60 00:02:20,784 --> 00:02:22,004 goal, by the 61 00:02:22,384 --> 00:02:22,884 ACC, 62 00:02:23,344 --> 00:02:26,145 door to balloon time. We we want, to 63 00:02:26,145 --> 00:02:27,240 exceed that goal, 64 00:02:27,719 --> 00:02:29,879 as much as possible, and that's, that's how 65 00:02:29,879 --> 00:02:31,180 we work in the hospital. 66 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,280 Amazing. And I hear that you've done exactly 67 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:35,800 that. Can you tell us a little bit 68 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,800 more about the case where you were able 69 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,879 to get a patient in in a thirty 70 00:02:39,879 --> 00:02:42,939 seven minute window from door to balloon time? 71 00:02:43,455 --> 00:02:45,534 Of course. Now that was a off hours 72 00:02:45,534 --> 00:02:45,775 case. 73 00:02:46,495 --> 00:02:48,754 So thirty seven minutes is, certainly, 74 00:02:49,455 --> 00:02:51,935 very doable if, you know, the team is 75 00:02:51,935 --> 00:02:54,014 all there. It's 10:00 in the morning. You 76 00:02:54,014 --> 00:02:55,854 have an open lab, and someone comes into 77 00:02:55,854 --> 00:02:59,020 the ER. ER identifies the patient quickly as 78 00:02:59,020 --> 00:03:00,639 a STEMI does a quick EKG, 79 00:03:01,259 --> 00:03:02,939 you know, the cath lab team can swoop 80 00:03:02,939 --> 00:03:03,439 over, 81 00:03:03,819 --> 00:03:05,419 grab the patient, get them on the table, 82 00:03:05,419 --> 00:03:07,099 and that's doable. What was unique about this 83 00:03:07,099 --> 00:03:08,985 case is it was an off hours case. 84 00:03:09,705 --> 00:03:12,425 So the key here was that the patient 85 00:03:12,425 --> 00:03:13,245 called EMS, 86 00:03:14,185 --> 00:03:15,145 that the EMS, 87 00:03:15,465 --> 00:03:15,965 providers, 88 00:03:16,425 --> 00:03:18,585 who we work closely with, you know, I, 89 00:03:18,824 --> 00:03:20,365 did an on-site EKG, 90 00:03:21,384 --> 00:03:22,044 that was 91 00:03:22,700 --> 00:03:24,319 sent to the coordinator, 92 00:03:24,860 --> 00:03:26,620 team in the ER, and the STEMI alert 93 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:29,340 was called from the field. So we had 94 00:03:29,340 --> 00:03:32,300 time as a cardiology team to get in 95 00:03:32,300 --> 00:03:34,939 the hospital and get ready and basically to 96 00:03:34,939 --> 00:03:35,840 meet the ambulance, 97 00:03:37,074 --> 00:03:37,895 at the door. 98 00:03:38,354 --> 00:03:40,354 So that way we were able to, you 99 00:03:40,354 --> 00:03:41,415 know, get the patient 100 00:03:42,034 --> 00:03:44,034 in through the ER as quickly as possible 101 00:03:44,034 --> 00:03:45,495 on the table, instrumented, 102 00:03:46,194 --> 00:03:47,955 and get a door to balloon time of 103 00:03:47,955 --> 00:03:48,935 thirty seven minutes. 104 00:03:50,099 --> 00:03:50,759 That's incredible. 105 00:03:51,460 --> 00:03:53,620 And I'm sure as our listeners picked up 106 00:03:53,620 --> 00:03:55,860 too, there really is this emphasis on your 107 00:03:55,860 --> 00:03:57,939 team. So can you explain a little bit 108 00:03:57,939 --> 00:04:00,099 more about how your team has prepared and 109 00:04:00,099 --> 00:04:02,500 trained for exactly this kind of case and 110 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:04,599 how you're coordinating with other teams? 111 00:04:06,305 --> 00:04:08,224 Absolutely. I mean, I think, you know, the 112 00:04:08,224 --> 00:04:08,724 emphasis, 113 00:04:09,425 --> 00:04:12,145 in STEMI care, if you're talking about even 114 00:04:12,145 --> 00:04:14,384 ACLS training, has been the importance of the 115 00:04:14,384 --> 00:04:16,625 team. It's not one person. It's not a 116 00:04:16,625 --> 00:04:19,504 cardiologist. It's not an ER doc, but it 117 00:04:19,504 --> 00:04:22,540 requires a whole, you know, whole village. You 118 00:04:22,540 --> 00:04:25,519 know, it starts with the, the EMTs who, 119 00:04:25,740 --> 00:04:26,959 you know, can get there, 120 00:04:27,339 --> 00:04:29,259 identify the patient with chest pain, do an 121 00:04:29,259 --> 00:04:30,240 on-site EKG, 122 00:04:31,019 --> 00:04:33,819 and and call the STEMI alert. It's the 123 00:04:33,819 --> 00:04:35,199 ER docs who, 124 00:04:35,585 --> 00:04:37,345 and not only the ER docs, but the 125 00:04:37,345 --> 00:04:38,085 ER nurses, 126 00:04:38,545 --> 00:04:41,045 you know, everyone from the front desk, 127 00:04:42,305 --> 00:04:43,764 to the nurses to the doctors, 128 00:04:44,225 --> 00:04:45,205 who can rapidly 129 00:04:45,745 --> 00:04:48,720 triage those patients and and get, get them 130 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,639 cared for. And then it is, you know, 131 00:04:50,639 --> 00:04:52,879 cardiology team. And then after we're done with 132 00:04:52,879 --> 00:04:54,160 the patient, it's the, 133 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:57,279 doctors and nurses in the ICU. So it 134 00:04:57,279 --> 00:04:59,279 really is a team effort to get the 135 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,199 best results, not only in door to balloon 136 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:04,715 time, but also in outcomes, patient satisfaction, etcetera, 137 00:05:05,014 --> 00:05:06,555 in the care of STEMI patients. 138 00:05:07,735 --> 00:05:08,235 Excellent. 139 00:05:08,615 --> 00:05:12,314 And it's clearly paying off because UPMC Memorial 140 00:05:12,375 --> 00:05:13,194 and UPMC 141 00:05:13,574 --> 00:05:16,535 Hanover have both earned the ACC Platinum Performance 142 00:05:16,535 --> 00:05:18,919 Achievement Award for five years in a row. 143 00:05:19,060 --> 00:05:20,339 So can you talk to us a little 144 00:05:20,339 --> 00:05:22,439 bit more about what you believe has contributed 145 00:05:22,500 --> 00:05:23,959 to that streak? 146 00:05:24,979 --> 00:05:26,279 I think what has contributed 147 00:05:26,660 --> 00:05:28,439 is that it's been a priority 148 00:05:28,819 --> 00:05:31,699 of the individual hospitals and more importantly of 149 00:05:31,699 --> 00:05:32,360 the UPMC 150 00:05:32,865 --> 00:05:33,365 system, 151 00:05:34,225 --> 00:05:37,605 to provide excellent quality care across the cardiology 152 00:05:38,064 --> 00:05:38,564 spectrum, 153 00:05:38,944 --> 00:05:40,404 in terms of STEMI care, 154 00:05:40,865 --> 00:05:42,964 congestive heart failure, other conditions. 155 00:05:43,665 --> 00:05:45,024 The platinum award, 156 00:05:45,504 --> 00:05:47,680 which, you know, we really do value is 157 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:48,339 a recognition 158 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:50,800 of that of that care. You know, we 159 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:51,939 achieve that by 160 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,759 analyzing all of our outcomes, you know, with 161 00:05:55,759 --> 00:05:56,740 a very critical 162 00:05:57,199 --> 00:05:59,540 viewpoint to continuous quality improvement. 163 00:05:59,919 --> 00:06:01,060 You know, we have meetings, 164 00:06:01,675 --> 00:06:03,354 once a month or more, you know, more 165 00:06:03,354 --> 00:06:04,415 often if necessary, 166 00:06:04,954 --> 00:06:06,894 where we analyze all the cases, 167 00:06:07,194 --> 00:06:10,235 all of the, STEMI cases where we analyze 168 00:06:10,235 --> 00:06:12,654 our outcomes in cardiac catheterization, 169 00:06:13,115 --> 00:06:15,535 heart failure, arrhythmia management, etcetera, 170 00:06:16,860 --> 00:06:19,580 looking for any ways in which we can 171 00:06:19,580 --> 00:06:22,860 improve. You know, improvement doesn't take place in 172 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:24,939 leaps and bounds. It takes place in small 173 00:06:24,939 --> 00:06:27,020 steps. You know, you you get a an 174 00:06:27,020 --> 00:06:28,160 average time of 175 00:06:28,555 --> 00:06:31,035 ten minutes to EKG down to seven minutes, 176 00:06:31,035 --> 00:06:31,675 and you get, 177 00:06:32,314 --> 00:06:33,935 a minute here, a minute there. 178 00:06:34,314 --> 00:06:37,354 You get more thorough administration of medications in 179 00:06:37,354 --> 00:06:40,014 the ER and administration of medications at discharge, 180 00:06:40,634 --> 00:06:43,595 to prevent readmissions. So, you know, again, it's 181 00:06:43,595 --> 00:06:45,410 a it's a team approach, but it really 182 00:06:45,410 --> 00:06:46,790 is a dedication 183 00:06:47,889 --> 00:06:51,110 to, continuous improvement and optimizing care. 184 00:06:51,970 --> 00:06:52,470 Excellent. 185 00:06:52,770 --> 00:06:54,290 Well, thank you so much for taking the 186 00:06:54,290 --> 00:06:55,810 time to speak with me today. This was 187 00:06:55,810 --> 00:06:57,189 such an informative discussion. 188 00:06:58,245 --> 00:06:59,944 Thank you. Thank you for having me.