1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:04,419 This is where health care leadership comes together. 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:07,679 Becker's sixteenth annual meeting brings more than 3,500 3 00:00:07,679 --> 00:00:10,880 hospital and health system executives and nearly 800 4 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:12,019 speakers to Chicago 5 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:14,259 April. 6 00:00:14,615 --> 00:00:17,335 This year's event includes keynote conversations with Dallas 7 00:00:17,335 --> 00:00:20,214 Cowboys legend Troy Aikman and former president George 8 00:00:20,214 --> 00:00:22,934 w Bush. For the agenda and event details, 9 00:00:22,934 --> 00:00:25,175 visit beckershospitalreview.com 10 00:00:25,175 --> 00:00:26,855 and click on the events tab in the 11 00:00:26,855 --> 00:00:29,574 upper right. We're looking forward to hosting you 12 00:00:29,574 --> 00:00:30,314 in Chicago. 13 00:00:31,789 --> 00:00:34,670 Welcome to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. I'm Mariah 14 00:00:34,670 --> 00:00:37,409 Taylor, assistant editor, and I'm thrilled to interview 15 00:00:37,469 --> 00:00:40,689 Suzette Graham Hill, lead of cardio obstetrics program 16 00:00:40,989 --> 00:00:43,729 at NYC Health and Hospitals, Kings County. 17 00:00:44,145 --> 00:00:46,145 Suzette, thank you so much for joining me 18 00:00:46,145 --> 00:00:48,064 today. I'm so excited to learn more about 19 00:00:48,064 --> 00:00:50,004 how hospitals are addressing cardiovascular 20 00:00:50,384 --> 00:00:52,945 disease in pregnant patients. But before we dive 21 00:00:52,945 --> 00:00:54,625 in, I'd love to hear just a little 22 00:00:54,625 --> 00:00:56,244 bit more about you and your background. 23 00:00:56,929 --> 00:01:00,049 Well, a physician specialist here at Kings County 24 00:01:00,049 --> 00:01:00,549 Hospital 25 00:01:00,929 --> 00:01:02,869 taking care of adult patients, 26 00:01:03,170 --> 00:01:03,909 in particularly 27 00:01:04,450 --> 00:01:07,510 pregnant women who are referred from the obstetrics 28 00:01:07,810 --> 00:01:08,310 department 29 00:01:08,864 --> 00:01:11,105 where we see them in our heart health 30 00:01:11,105 --> 00:01:14,704 center, and we evaluate them, especially if they 31 00:01:14,704 --> 00:01:15,525 have preeclampsia 32 00:01:16,144 --> 00:01:17,364 or chronic hypertension. 33 00:01:17,984 --> 00:01:21,265 We evaluate them, with a physical exam as 34 00:01:21,265 --> 00:01:23,045 well as set up an echocardiogram 35 00:01:24,010 --> 00:01:26,729 as well as blood work to prevent any 36 00:01:26,729 --> 00:01:27,229 cardiovascular 37 00:01:27,689 --> 00:01:28,189 complications. 38 00:01:28,810 --> 00:01:31,310 So, I do that as well 39 00:01:31,769 --> 00:01:32,750 as read echocardiograms 40 00:01:33,450 --> 00:01:34,750 and perform transesophageal, 41 00:01:35,769 --> 00:01:36,269 echocardiograms. 42 00:01:36,935 --> 00:01:38,775 So I do a whole host of things 43 00:01:38,775 --> 00:01:40,954 to take care of adult patients. 44 00:01:41,655 --> 00:01:42,155 Excellent. 45 00:01:42,615 --> 00:01:44,855 And as probably many of our listeners know, 46 00:01:44,855 --> 00:01:45,355 cardiovascular 47 00:01:45,734 --> 00:01:48,295 disease is the leading cause of pregnancy related 48 00:01:48,295 --> 00:01:50,200 deaths right now. Can you tell us a 49 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,640 little bit more about the scale of this 50 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,979 problem and why hospital leaders are taking notice? 51 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,219 Well, as you said, cardiovascular 52 00:01:56,599 --> 00:01:59,640 disease is the leading cause of pregnancy related 53 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,295 deaths in The United States. And these deaths 54 00:02:02,295 --> 00:02:03,354 we are noticing 55 00:02:03,734 --> 00:02:07,015 are happening after delivery, and they are and 56 00:02:07,015 --> 00:02:07,915 they are preventative 57 00:02:08,534 --> 00:02:10,634 with better screening and follow-up. 58 00:02:10,935 --> 00:02:13,014 We've noticed that most of the deaths are 59 00:02:13,014 --> 00:02:13,995 related to cardiomyopathy 60 00:02:14,455 --> 00:02:15,194 and hypertensive, 61 00:02:15,814 --> 00:02:16,314 disorders. 62 00:02:16,770 --> 00:02:19,969 So we in at Kings County Hospital, we 63 00:02:19,969 --> 00:02:21,509 are trying to, 64 00:02:22,930 --> 00:02:24,709 stop or trying to, 65 00:02:25,409 --> 00:02:27,569 do the workup so that we could prevent 66 00:02:27,569 --> 00:02:28,069 cardiovascular 67 00:02:28,449 --> 00:02:28,949 complications 68 00:02:29,569 --> 00:02:32,310 because we recognize that most of the deaths 69 00:02:32,605 --> 00:02:33,425 are occurring 70 00:02:33,805 --> 00:02:35,185 one year postpartum. 71 00:02:35,724 --> 00:02:38,685 And we also noted that black women are 72 00:02:38,685 --> 00:02:39,185 disproportionately 73 00:02:39,965 --> 00:02:40,465 affected 74 00:02:41,004 --> 00:02:44,625 that are are significantly affected by hypertensive 75 00:02:45,004 --> 00:02:47,825 heart disease, and they're having early mortality. 76 00:02:48,409 --> 00:02:49,790 So the hospital leaders 77 00:02:50,169 --> 00:02:52,349 are taking notice to all of these 78 00:02:52,729 --> 00:02:55,229 causes of, morbidity and mortality 79 00:02:55,610 --> 00:02:56,909 because these outcomes 80 00:02:57,370 --> 00:02:59,150 can largely be preventable 81 00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:00,990 with earlier screening, 82 00:03:01,575 --> 00:03:02,314 better follow-up, 83 00:03:02,615 --> 00:03:03,835 and stronger coordination 84 00:03:04,534 --> 00:03:07,194 between the obstetrics department and cardiology. 85 00:03:07,814 --> 00:03:10,775 Hospital leaders have noted that this is no 86 00:03:10,775 --> 00:03:12,635 longer a clinical issue. 87 00:03:12,935 --> 00:03:16,419 It is a systems and quality issue that 88 00:03:16,419 --> 00:03:18,680 we're all working together to forestall. 89 00:03:19,699 --> 00:03:21,539 I love that. And let's dive into that 90 00:03:21,539 --> 00:03:24,280 just a little bit deeper. What are hospitals 91 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:26,819 doing in care and operations to kind of 92 00:03:26,819 --> 00:03:27,879 meet this demand? 93 00:03:28,655 --> 00:03:31,075 Well, this shift means that the hospitals 94 00:03:31,455 --> 00:03:33,555 have they must move beyond 95 00:03:33,855 --> 00:03:34,355 traditional 96 00:03:34,814 --> 00:03:38,835 six weeks, the postpartum model. Maternal health care 97 00:03:38,974 --> 00:03:40,754 had now requires coordination 98 00:03:41,375 --> 00:03:43,314 between the obstetrics department, 99 00:03:43,770 --> 00:03:48,169 cardiology, and primary care. The traditional models of 100 00:03:48,169 --> 00:03:51,530 that six weeks is no longer effective. So 101 00:03:51,530 --> 00:03:52,030 cardiovascular 102 00:03:52,490 --> 00:03:53,629 risk is continuing 103 00:03:54,169 --> 00:03:57,770 to rise post six weeks after a woman 104 00:03:57,770 --> 00:03:58,830 has their baby. 105 00:03:59,185 --> 00:04:00,084 So the hospitals 106 00:04:00,544 --> 00:04:01,924 must build systems 107 00:04:02,224 --> 00:04:03,125 that integrate 108 00:04:03,584 --> 00:04:04,084 cardiology, 109 00:04:04,784 --> 00:04:06,324 maternal fetal medicine, 110 00:04:06,864 --> 00:04:09,924 nursing, and primary care. And it also 111 00:04:10,384 --> 00:04:13,584 requires an investment in blood pressure monitoring for 112 00:04:13,584 --> 00:04:14,324 the moms, 113 00:04:14,799 --> 00:04:15,780 patient education, 114 00:04:16,319 --> 00:04:17,540 and smoother discharge 115 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:18,979 planning. 116 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,740 So from an operational 117 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:21,540 perspective, 118 00:04:21,919 --> 00:04:25,699 it shifts maternal care from a short term 119 00:04:25,759 --> 00:04:27,860 event to a long term 120 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:29,860 population health strategies. 121 00:04:30,625 --> 00:04:32,245 Leaders in our hospital 122 00:04:32,625 --> 00:04:34,004 view maternal cardiovascular 123 00:04:34,464 --> 00:04:37,444 health as part of a quality improvement 124 00:04:37,904 --> 00:04:39,365 and a risk management 125 00:04:39,904 --> 00:04:42,165 effort to take care of our patients. 126 00:04:43,430 --> 00:04:45,589 Amazing. And I know you guys are doing 127 00:04:45,589 --> 00:04:47,529 an amazing job of really improving 128 00:04:48,149 --> 00:04:50,789 your rates and the access to care for 129 00:04:50,789 --> 00:04:52,310 these patients. So can you give us a 130 00:04:52,310 --> 00:04:53,990 little bit more details about what kind of 131 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:56,089 initiatives or programs are showing success? 132 00:04:56,915 --> 00:05:00,375 Well, we have formed a cardio obstetric team, 133 00:05:00,595 --> 00:05:03,095 which involves obstetrics and cardiology. 134 00:05:03,714 --> 00:05:06,675 We also are working with the maternal health 135 00:05:06,675 --> 00:05:07,714 team to, 136 00:05:08,194 --> 00:05:10,694 have remote blood pressure monitoring, 137 00:05:11,149 --> 00:05:14,350 And we're also working with the obstetrics team 138 00:05:14,350 --> 00:05:15,490 to have automatic 139 00:05:15,870 --> 00:05:16,370 cardiology 140 00:05:16,830 --> 00:05:19,569 referrals for those women with preeclampsia. 141 00:05:20,589 --> 00:05:22,370 When hospitals standardized 142 00:05:22,750 --> 00:05:23,250 follow-up 143 00:05:23,574 --> 00:05:26,795 and extend postpartum care, we recognize 144 00:05:27,335 --> 00:05:28,395 outcomes improve. 145 00:05:28,774 --> 00:05:30,395 The American Heart Association 146 00:05:30,935 --> 00:05:32,634 has issued a guidance 147 00:05:33,095 --> 00:05:34,154 sub supporting 148 00:05:34,774 --> 00:05:38,189 cardio anesthetic teams, which brings the cardiologist 149 00:05:38,649 --> 00:05:40,830 and the obstetrics teams together 150 00:05:41,210 --> 00:05:42,910 for those high risk patients 151 00:05:43,370 --> 00:05:44,830 identified in the OBGYN 152 00:05:45,290 --> 00:05:45,790 department. 153 00:05:46,250 --> 00:05:49,069 So what we're doing, we're we're implementing 154 00:05:49,449 --> 00:05:51,069 remote blood pressure monitoring 155 00:05:51,529 --> 00:05:52,189 and programs 156 00:05:52,625 --> 00:05:54,404 that to reduce the postpartum 157 00:05:54,705 --> 00:05:55,205 complication 158 00:05:55,745 --> 00:05:56,805 by identifying 159 00:05:57,504 --> 00:06:00,564 high blood pressure early. Some of the hospitals 160 00:06:00,705 --> 00:06:02,004 schedule cardiology 161 00:06:02,305 --> 00:06:04,884 follow-up appointments before discharge, 162 00:06:05,264 --> 00:06:08,160 which improves our continuity of care. 163 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,240 States are expanding Medicaid coverage to twelve months 164 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:12,740 postpartum 165 00:06:13,199 --> 00:06:15,779 and also improving follow-up access. 166 00:06:16,399 --> 00:06:17,220 These interventions 167 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:20,660 have been shown that structured systems 168 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:21,435 can 169 00:06:21,915 --> 00:06:22,415 significantly 170 00:06:23,274 --> 00:06:23,774 reduce 171 00:06:24,074 --> 00:06:25,294 preventable deaths. 172 00:06:26,314 --> 00:06:26,814 Amazing. 173 00:06:27,355 --> 00:06:28,954 And now for all of our listeners out 174 00:06:28,954 --> 00:06:30,714 there who are hearing you and your passion 175 00:06:30,714 --> 00:06:32,714 and thinking, I wanna do better at our 176 00:06:32,714 --> 00:06:35,220 hospital. I wanna make something happen. What is 177 00:06:35,220 --> 00:06:35,879 your recommendation 178 00:06:36,419 --> 00:06:38,740 for an area in heart care or patient 179 00:06:38,740 --> 00:06:41,079 experience that they can make the biggest difference? 180 00:06:41,779 --> 00:06:45,060 Well, hospitals can make the biggest difference by 181 00:06:45,060 --> 00:06:45,560 improving 182 00:06:46,259 --> 00:06:47,399 early risk 183 00:06:47,995 --> 00:06:48,495 identification 184 00:06:49,035 --> 00:06:50,654 and postpartum follow-up. 185 00:06:51,035 --> 00:06:53,535 We we're standardizing our cardiovascular 186 00:06:54,074 --> 00:06:54,574 screening 187 00:06:55,035 --> 00:06:55,855 during pregnancy 188 00:06:56,235 --> 00:06:57,375 to help identify 189 00:06:58,235 --> 00:07:00,254 those high risk women sooner. 190 00:07:00,610 --> 00:07:01,430 We're implementing 191 00:07:01,889 --> 00:07:03,750 automatic referrals to cardiology 192 00:07:04,290 --> 00:07:05,910 for those women with preeclampsia 193 00:07:06,610 --> 00:07:08,069 or severe hypertension 194 00:07:08,610 --> 00:07:11,029 to prevent long term complications. 195 00:07:11,970 --> 00:07:13,029 Clear communication 196 00:07:13,490 --> 00:07:14,310 at discharge 197 00:07:14,665 --> 00:07:18,925 we've identified is the key, including scheduling follow-up 198 00:07:19,225 --> 00:07:21,964 visits before the patients leave the hospital. 199 00:07:22,345 --> 00:07:24,845 Also, it will improve the patient's outcomes. 200 00:07:25,464 --> 00:07:25,964 Finally, 201 00:07:26,264 --> 00:07:28,845 we're trying to address the social barriers 202 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:30,020 such as transportation, 203 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:31,620 insurance 204 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:33,860 gaps, and health care literacy 205 00:07:34,399 --> 00:07:36,740 that because we recognize that this can dramatically 206 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:38,339 improve continuity 207 00:07:38,879 --> 00:07:41,060 of care. The greatest opportunity 208 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,220 lies in coordinating 209 00:07:43,955 --> 00:07:45,735 patient centered systems 210 00:07:46,194 --> 00:07:47,574 rather than isolated 211 00:07:47,955 --> 00:07:48,455 interventions. 212 00:07:49,714 --> 00:07:50,214 Incredible. 213 00:07:50,675 --> 00:07:52,995 Well, this has been a really informative discussion, 214 00:07:52,995 --> 00:07:55,235 and I just love hearing all the passion 215 00:07:55,235 --> 00:07:57,039 that you bring to this. So thank you 216 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:58,959 for joining me and sharing everything on the 217 00:07:58,959 --> 00:07:59,939 podcast today. 218 00:08:00,639 --> 00:08:01,379 Thank you.