1 00:00:00,516 --> 00:00:01,652 It's the brew 2 00:00:02,105 --> 00:00:02,605 podcast. 3 00:00:03,456 --> 00:00:04,990 It is the drive b. 4 00:00:05,999 --> 00:00:07,827 Brought to you by Russian River brewing and 5 00:00:08,145 --> 00:00:10,782 Victory House. Her linda Harass is back with 6 00:00:10,782 --> 00:00:13,244 us international food and beer judge. 7 00:00:13,959 --> 00:00:15,787 And 1 of our guests today is Renee 8 00:00:15,945 --> 00:00:16,978 D luca Renee, 9 00:00:17,629 --> 00:00:19,379 Pleasure to meet you. Very nice to be 10 00:00:19,379 --> 00:00:21,130 here. Thank you so much, Steve. And you 11 00:00:21,130 --> 00:00:22,243 are the daughter of 12 00:00:22,959 --> 00:00:24,471 Jack Mc macarthur. Correct. 13 00:00:25,043 --> 00:00:28,068 And it's all about, new A brewing, 14 00:00:28,705 --> 00:00:31,036 and we're tasting some 15 00:00:31,411 --> 00:00:32,366 recently brood, 16 00:00:32,859 --> 00:00:35,322 Yes. The original recipe. And your dad's recipe. 17 00:00:35,481 --> 00:00:38,341 Right? Yes. Yes. Our friend Don Barclay, Brew 18 00:00:38,341 --> 00:00:41,042 at Men no brewing. He's here and back 19 00:00:41,042 --> 00:00:42,973 with us. And tell us your story. I 20 00:00:42,973 --> 00:00:45,151 mean, you're the daughter of a a major 21 00:00:45,290 --> 00:00:48,406 craft beer dude. Yeah. Your father started this 22 00:00:48,406 --> 00:00:49,205 in 76. 23 00:00:49,525 --> 00:00:51,618 Correct. That is when he incorporated New A 24 00:00:51,618 --> 00:00:54,335 and brewing company in Sonoma. I did not 25 00:00:54,335 --> 00:00:55,134 grow up with Jack. 26 00:00:55,853 --> 00:00:57,771 I found him a little later in life. 27 00:00:58,011 --> 00:01:00,344 Oh, cool. Yeah. It was a story. And 28 00:01:00,344 --> 00:01:02,024 when I found out what he was known 29 00:01:02,024 --> 00:01:04,424 for, I said, you know, I always knew 30 00:01:04,504 --> 00:01:06,185 I had beer in my blood, and I 31 00:01:06,185 --> 00:01:08,351 wasn't wrong. I have enjoyed getting to know 32 00:01:08,430 --> 00:01:11,055 Jack for the last 20 some years, and 33 00:01:11,055 --> 00:01:12,328 we have bonded over the beer, 34 00:01:13,044 --> 00:01:13,521 and 35 00:01:14,094 --> 00:01:17,131 I now run the brewers daughter beer company, 36 00:01:17,611 --> 00:01:20,887 which does business as new A, and I 37 00:01:20,887 --> 00:01:21,387 licensed 38 00:01:22,486 --> 00:01:25,318 Don who was Jack's head brewer 39 00:01:25,937 --> 00:01:28,494 for a number of years. Right. I said, 40 00:01:28,734 --> 00:01:30,492 sure. Go ahead and brew some for this 41 00:01:30,811 --> 00:01:32,465 event that we have coming up at the 42 00:01:32,982 --> 00:01:34,018 museum of Sonoma County, 43 00:01:35,133 --> 00:01:37,204 which is happening here we'll talk more about 44 00:01:37,204 --> 00:01:39,776 that with Linda in a moment. You started 45 00:01:39,913 --> 00:01:42,739 taking Jack Mc macarthur. U. To 46 00:01:43,119 --> 00:01:45,599 beer festivals and craft beer conferences and stuff. 47 00:01:46,079 --> 00:01:47,539 And then you helped revive 48 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,159 the beer in 20 11. Talk about that. 49 00:01:50,334 --> 00:01:51,842 Of the things we've done in getting to 50 00:01:51,842 --> 00:01:53,669 know each other is bond over the beer. 51 00:01:53,827 --> 00:01:56,130 And I said, Jack, how have you ever 52 00:01:56,130 --> 00:01:58,685 been to a beer fest or 1 a 53 00:01:58,685 --> 00:02:01,222 conference around craft beer, so big these days 54 00:02:01,222 --> 00:02:02,727 he's like, no. I gave that all up. 55 00:02:02,965 --> 00:02:04,709 You know, he had kinda become this elusive 56 00:02:04,709 --> 00:02:07,425 figure in craft beer. Year. And I said, 57 00:02:07,504 --> 00:02:09,095 well, I wanna go to the Great American 58 00:02:09,095 --> 00:02:11,641 beer festival in Colorado. It's an annual event 59 00:02:11,641 --> 00:02:14,765 in Denver here And so he came and 60 00:02:14,765 --> 00:02:16,303 met me out there, and 61 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,555 we walking up and down the aisle were 62 00:02:19,555 --> 00:02:20,991 in 2011 63 00:02:20,991 --> 00:02:23,722 where all these... Breweries are handing out samples 64 00:02:23,722 --> 00:02:24,361 of their beer. 65 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:26,359 And I said, Jack, 66 00:02:27,238 --> 00:02:29,156 Look at what you started? What do you 67 00:02:29,156 --> 00:02:31,650 think about all this? And he said, Obama 68 00:02:31,650 --> 00:02:32,769 owes me a lot of money. 69 00:02:34,849 --> 00:02:36,930 Because, of course, back then, that's when Obama 70 00:02:36,930 --> 00:02:38,530 was in office and Jack's just a character, 71 00:02:39,183 --> 00:02:39,580 And 72 00:02:40,296 --> 00:02:42,443 I said, well, you started this, and then 73 00:02:42,443 --> 00:02:43,181 it got 74 00:02:43,556 --> 00:02:46,180 word around the hall. The jack was in 75 00:02:46,180 --> 00:02:46,577 attendance. 76 00:02:47,466 --> 00:02:49,927 And Jim Cook, who is the founder of 77 00:02:50,007 --> 00:02:51,515 Boston Beer, Sam Adams as we know it. 78 00:02:51,674 --> 00:02:53,500 You got Wind of it, and he said, 79 00:02:53,658 --> 00:02:54,690 oh, I wanna meet Jack. 80 00:02:55,581 --> 00:02:57,732 So we went to the Boston beer long 81 00:02:57,732 --> 00:03:00,521 shot breakfast, which is something that... Yeah. Sam 82 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:01,499 Adams does 83 00:03:01,955 --> 00:03:02,353 every, 84 00:03:02,991 --> 00:03:04,479 Great American beer festival, they 85 00:03:05,238 --> 00:03:05,738 award 86 00:03:06,437 --> 00:03:08,534 a home brewer who submits their recipe 87 00:03:08,913 --> 00:03:11,070 with brewing their beer, and they were announcing 88 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:13,821 that, And so I brought Jack to 89 00:03:14,438 --> 00:03:15,955 the breakfast that morning, 90 00:03:16,673 --> 00:03:18,270 that I got to stand there with the 91 00:03:18,270 --> 00:03:20,879 folks from Boston Brew their P person, and 92 00:03:21,557 --> 00:03:23,094 everybody else, and 93 00:03:23,551 --> 00:03:25,386 Jim and Jack met for the first time. 94 00:03:26,024 --> 00:03:29,055 And Jim said, oh, Jack, it's so great 95 00:03:29,055 --> 00:03:30,650 to meet you. It's like meeting Sam Adams. 96 00:03:30,904 --> 00:03:33,762 In that way that Jacob has very ef 97 00:03:33,762 --> 00:03:36,540 vessel You know. And he said, I don't 98 00:03:36,540 --> 00:03:37,969 know if you know this, and I'll tell 99 00:03:37,969 --> 00:03:39,477 you we did not know this. He said, 100 00:03:39,715 --> 00:03:43,166 in when the intellectual property from New A 101 00:03:43,166 --> 00:03:45,185 came into the public domain after 102 00:03:45,723 --> 00:03:47,642 you left New A and closed the business. 103 00:03:47,881 --> 00:03:50,613 He goes, I retained it. Because I didn't 104 00:03:50,613 --> 00:03:53,249 want the big guys of beer to get 105 00:03:53,249 --> 00:03:54,687 the name New Album and do something with 106 00:03:54,687 --> 00:03:56,226 it because Jim was 107 00:03:56,939 --> 00:04:00,050 veer, Jack and randy A being, you know, 108 00:04:00,129 --> 00:04:01,724 the start of the whole craft beer movement 109 00:04:01,724 --> 00:04:03,240 and he knew what it meant. So he 110 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,676 had held onto it for all those years. 111 00:04:04,915 --> 00:04:05,713 What a great story. 112 00:04:06,430 --> 00:04:08,519 So. And we had no idea that that 113 00:04:08,519 --> 00:04:10,991 is what happened. And I just found that 114 00:04:10,991 --> 00:04:13,064 out today. I picked up Renee from the 115 00:04:13,064 --> 00:04:15,377 airport. And she was telling me all these 116 00:04:15,377 --> 00:04:17,544 stories because I'm like okay. You're gonna come 117 00:04:17,544 --> 00:04:19,375 on the show and there's a lot of 118 00:04:19,375 --> 00:04:21,605 myths out there about Chap Cola and New 119 00:04:21,685 --> 00:04:23,596 A. There's a lot of legends, There's a 120 00:04:23,596 --> 00:04:24,950 lot of myths and Legends the end. 121 00:04:26,077 --> 00:04:29,805 Urban legends, and you know the real stories. 122 00:04:30,043 --> 00:04:31,709 Yeah. And, you know, 123 00:04:32,519 --> 00:04:34,035 it I got to meet her at the 124 00:04:34,274 --> 00:04:37,147 Smithsonian Institute when the American Beer history, at 125 00:04:37,227 --> 00:04:40,100 American history Museum, in 20 19 yeah 2000 126 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:42,035 and put in the the beer history museum. 127 00:04:42,194 --> 00:04:43,954 Mh. And Jack was there if it's many 128 00:04:43,954 --> 00:04:45,795 time. Jack was en ent. Yes. 129 00:04:46,915 --> 00:04:47,314 There is a... 130 00:04:48,129 --> 00:04:49,966 Display at the Smithsonian in the history news 131 00:04:49,966 --> 00:04:52,123 museum dc if you go there, called brewing 132 00:04:52,123 --> 00:04:55,170 a revolution, and it honors for May tag. 133 00:04:55,329 --> 00:04:57,893 It honors Ken Gross and New, 134 00:04:58,901 --> 00:05:01,521 and they had a party to launch the 135 00:05:01,521 --> 00:05:02,649 exhibit in 2019, 136 00:05:02,809 --> 00:05:04,247 and we're in the same hall as Julia 137 00:05:04,407 --> 00:05:06,723 Child's kitchen. Which is pretty cool, man. 138 00:05:08,002 --> 00:05:09,935 So when the when the history, the museum 139 00:05:09,935 --> 00:05:12,574 of Sonoma County was gonna do this exhibit 140 00:05:12,574 --> 00:05:15,055 on Baron Hops. And I said, I'm actually 141 00:05:15,055 --> 00:05:17,134 friends with Jack Mc mcconnell S. They're like, 142 00:05:17,375 --> 00:05:19,381 no way. And Like, I think I might 143 00:05:19,381 --> 00:05:21,210 be able to get her here too. Yeah. 144 00:05:21,369 --> 00:05:23,516 And, of course, any opportunity come have a 145 00:05:23,516 --> 00:05:25,266 beer and honor jack and New A. And 146 00:05:25,345 --> 00:05:27,111 I'm there for it. And Now, Jack is 147 00:05:27,111 --> 00:05:29,263 still alive. He lives in a corner of 148 00:05:29,581 --> 00:05:31,334 Northwest Arkansas where he retired, 149 00:05:31,892 --> 00:05:32,370 and 150 00:05:32,769 --> 00:05:35,101 he is in his late seventies. 151 00:05:35,637 --> 00:05:38,125 He's doing up okay. But not in the 152 00:05:38,125 --> 00:05:40,062 kind of health where he could travel. And 153 00:05:40,201 --> 00:05:41,877 these days, I'm more or less telling the 154 00:05:41,877 --> 00:05:44,852 story and keeping his name and, the legend 155 00:05:44,910 --> 00:05:47,233 out there. Yeah. Says here you formed the 156 00:05:47,233 --> 00:05:47,733 brewers 157 00:05:48,108 --> 00:05:50,494 daughter beer company, and you've been running things 158 00:05:50,494 --> 00:05:52,107 ever since. Yes. So what 159 00:05:52,561 --> 00:05:55,026 was Jim Cook said come to Boston. 160 00:05:55,518 --> 00:05:57,846 And let's reimburse some of your original recipes, 161 00:05:58,379 --> 00:06:00,444 and we were like, okay. That sounds fun. 162 00:06:00,603 --> 00:06:02,272 So we got in touch with Don Barclay, 163 00:06:02,431 --> 00:06:04,433 who was the head brewer who still... Had 164 00:06:04,433 --> 00:06:05,072 the recipes, 165 00:06:05,789 --> 00:06:07,704 and we were in communication with the brewers 166 00:06:07,704 --> 00:06:10,096 at Boston beer, and I got to sit 167 00:06:10,096 --> 00:06:11,452 there and be a fly on the wall 168 00:06:11,452 --> 00:06:13,526 the day we did the brewing and listened 169 00:06:13,526 --> 00:06:16,088 to Jim Cook and Jack Mc macarthur, talk 170 00:06:16,088 --> 00:06:18,156 about the early days of craft beer while 171 00:06:18,156 --> 00:06:20,861 they were busy bring it. And john 172 00:06:21,656 --> 00:06:23,422 John Hall, the beer writer we there and 173 00:06:23,422 --> 00:06:27,165 really about it. And it was just an 174 00:06:27,165 --> 00:06:29,793 amazing experience, and then they released the beer 175 00:06:29,793 --> 00:06:30,452 a year 176 00:06:30,828 --> 00:06:34,258 later was and brought Jack out with Jim 177 00:06:34,258 --> 00:06:36,401 at the next Jb in 2012 178 00:06:36,401 --> 00:06:37,989 and released the story to the world, and 179 00:06:37,989 --> 00:06:39,987 they did a little beer tour. Renee, Dawn 180 00:06:40,066 --> 00:06:41,573 Broccoli, and my father and I are gonna 181 00:06:41,573 --> 00:06:43,738 go down to the russian pub tonight 182 00:06:44,349 --> 00:06:46,093 afterwards and do a meat and greet. So 183 00:06:46,093 --> 00:06:48,091 if you wanna come meet... Renee, Jack Mc 184 00:06:48,171 --> 00:06:50,234 S and Don Barkley. We won't have the 185 00:06:50,234 --> 00:06:51,742 beer, but you can come to the beer 186 00:06:51,821 --> 00:06:52,774 Festival Saturday. 187 00:06:53,329 --> 00:06:55,710 To try the beer... Renee, the Vip part 188 00:06:55,884 --> 00:06:58,122 Starts at 4, and Renee is gonna tap 189 00:06:58,122 --> 00:07:00,280 the c herself, How cool is that? Yay. 190 00:07:00,519 --> 00:07:01,239 At 04:30, 191 00:07:01,638 --> 00:07:03,476 and it goes 4 to 8, so a 192 00:07:03,476 --> 00:07:04,970 lot nicer and colder. I 193 00:07:05,723 --> 00:07:08,896 some memorabilia that I had, including the original 194 00:07:08,896 --> 00:07:11,197 handmade, new A point of sale sign that 195 00:07:11,276 --> 00:07:13,037 Jack used to make and anyone that was 196 00:07:13,037 --> 00:07:14,886 carrying his beer, he would make this handmade 197 00:07:14,942 --> 00:07:15,180 sign. 198 00:07:15,815 --> 00:07:17,324 And so I donated 1 of those to 199 00:07:17,324 --> 00:07:19,309 the exhibit and an original new A t 200 00:07:19,309 --> 00:07:21,156 shirt. The t shirt I'm wearing that says 201 00:07:21,156 --> 00:07:23,309 new A is from the updated beer. 202 00:07:24,027 --> 00:07:25,941 But, yeah. So that was a lot of 203 00:07:25,941 --> 00:07:27,776 fun rebooting it. And then Jim cooked did 204 00:07:27,776 --> 00:07:29,824 this amazing thing and said, you know, Jack 205 00:07:30,344 --> 00:07:32,102 you were a little ahead of the time, 206 00:07:32,342 --> 00:07:33,460 and a lot of us made a lot 207 00:07:33,460 --> 00:07:36,337 of money on your idea. So they had 208 00:07:36,337 --> 00:07:38,929 released the new A that Boston Beer made 209 00:07:39,144 --> 00:07:41,211 around the country, and he gave my father 210 00:07:41,211 --> 00:07:42,880 all of the proceeds from the sale of 211 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,185 that beer. Holy moly. And he gave him 212 00:07:45,185 --> 00:07:47,172 all the intellectual property back, He said it 213 00:07:47,172 --> 00:07:49,502 belongs stayed you. That's so cool. Yeah. She 214 00:07:49,502 --> 00:07:51,820 is Renee D luca. She is the daughter 215 00:07:51,820 --> 00:07:55,016 of Jack Mc. New A brewing company is 216 00:07:55,016 --> 00:07:56,615 acknowledged to be the first post 217 00:07:57,348 --> 00:07:58,326 Prohibition micro 218 00:07:58,942 --> 00:08:00,298 brewery in the United States, 219 00:08:01,016 --> 00:08:02,871 and Jack Mc mcconnell founded it 220 00:08:03,647 --> 00:08:04,046 in 221 00:08:04,684 --> 00:08:05,641 19 76, 222 00:08:06,215 --> 00:08:06,715 Where 223 00:08:07,095 --> 00:08:08,295 did you grow up and where do you 224 00:08:08,295 --> 00:08:10,134 live now, Renee? Oh, thank you for asking. 225 00:08:10,694 --> 00:08:11,194 I 226 00:08:11,495 --> 00:08:13,175 was an adapt d, which is why I 227 00:08:13,175 --> 00:08:13,254 at. 228 00:08:13,990 --> 00:08:16,069 Jack later in life. I was raised by 229 00:08:16,069 --> 00:08:18,949 a very wonderful couple in suburban Washington, Dc. 230 00:08:19,590 --> 00:08:22,069 They were from Ohio. Virginia. 231 00:08:22,803 --> 00:08:26,312 Maryland actually. Think. Yeah. Right. Suburban Dc. 232 00:08:27,828 --> 00:08:28,328 And 233 00:08:29,024 --> 00:08:30,699 so I went to College in Ohio and 234 00:08:30,699 --> 00:08:32,388 accidentally stayed for 30 years, and I live 235 00:08:32,388 --> 00:08:36,118 in Cleveland, Ohio. And have, really done some 236 00:08:36,118 --> 00:08:37,626 cool things with New A and some of 237 00:08:37,626 --> 00:08:39,371 the brewers there. Cleveland has a great beer. 238 00:08:39,530 --> 00:08:41,292 But I ended up working and live radio 239 00:08:41,292 --> 00:08:43,201 and Tv in Cleveland for many years. You 240 00:08:43,201 --> 00:08:45,110 know, I believe that because you're really great 241 00:08:45,110 --> 00:08:47,417 right now. I'm the show and, you know, 242 00:08:47,815 --> 00:08:50,383 radio You. The story a few times. Yeah. 243 00:08:51,101 --> 00:08:53,095 Renee D luca with us, and 244 00:08:53,654 --> 00:08:56,141 her Linda talked more about what's going on 245 00:08:56,141 --> 00:08:58,053 at the museum of Sonoma County. The exhibit 246 00:08:58,053 --> 00:08:59,885 goes all the way till September first, and 247 00:08:59,885 --> 00:09:01,478 then we're gonna try to go over to 248 00:09:01,478 --> 00:09:03,470 the site where her father started the brewery 249 00:09:03,470 --> 00:09:05,397 in the town of Sonoma. Which I've never 250 00:09:05,397 --> 00:09:07,870 walked through either. So this Saturday from 4 251 00:09:07,870 --> 00:09:09,944 to 8, you can park across the street 252 00:09:09,944 --> 00:09:11,459 at the mall. It's right near the mall. 253 00:09:11,698 --> 00:09:12,975 People don't ask me, What do you mean? 254 00:09:13,054 --> 00:09:15,380 There's a museum of Sonoma County. It's beautiful. 255 00:09:15,619 --> 00:09:17,765 It's got columns and wood, and it's art 256 00:09:17,765 --> 00:09:19,832 d and Marble. And from what I understand, 257 00:09:19,991 --> 00:09:22,058 it's associated with the Smithsonian. It's this Smithsonian 258 00:09:22,058 --> 00:09:22,455 and philly. 259 00:09:23,430 --> 00:09:25,110 It was the post office it was built 260 00:09:25,110 --> 00:09:26,629 in 19 16. It was a Santa rosa 261 00:09:26,629 --> 00:09:27,190 post office. 262 00:09:27,830 --> 00:09:29,830 And the sculpture guard, and they they have 263 00:09:29,830 --> 00:09:31,844 the whole land on there that yeah from 264 00:09:31,844 --> 00:09:33,674 when they moved the museum over back in 265 00:09:33,674 --> 00:09:34,311 the seventies. 266 00:09:34,708 --> 00:09:37,255 They moved it over there, and it's all 267 00:09:37,255 --> 00:09:39,165 fence in, and we're gonna have the beer 268 00:09:39,165 --> 00:09:40,700 festival in the sculpture garden 269 00:09:41,489 --> 00:09:43,727 cooler time of day, 4 to 8 Nice, 270 00:09:44,286 --> 00:09:46,364 along these different coal sculptures that are out 271 00:09:46,364 --> 00:09:48,841 there and the redwood trees are shade, russian 272 00:09:48,841 --> 00:09:49,321 river brewing, 273 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:50,360 pouring, 274 00:09:51,013 --> 00:09:53,001 light and sponsor are also they're pouring as 275 00:09:53,001 --> 00:09:55,228 well. Like an is a sponsor their point. 276 00:09:55,865 --> 00:09:58,187 We're gonna have some different local Pod farm 277 00:09:58,187 --> 00:10:01,135 brewing actually because they have a, they're actually 278 00:10:01,135 --> 00:10:02,888 part of 1 of the other exhibits. U. 279 00:10:03,525 --> 00:10:06,314 And Bruce Callum from Ke Brew housing to 280 00:10:06,314 --> 00:10:06,473 come, 281 00:10:07,524 --> 00:10:08,963 He's gonna come to the festival that's gonna 282 00:10:08,963 --> 00:10:11,041 be kinda... Cool. Yeah guy. Yeah. Him and 283 00:10:11,041 --> 00:10:12,479 his wife are gonna be there, they're gonna 284 00:10:12,479 --> 00:10:15,037 be in the Vip part. So, at 04:30... 285 00:10:15,196 --> 00:10:17,009 So if you go on, that 286 00:10:17,769 --> 00:10:19,049 museum so c dot org, 287 00:10:20,410 --> 00:10:22,490 or on their Facebook page as well, you 288 00:10:22,490 --> 00:10:24,730 can get... The Vip is sold out. If 289 00:10:24,730 --> 00:10:26,250 you've got your vip ticket if you win, 290 00:10:26,744 --> 00:10:28,998 come down there. If you're in the news 291 00:10:29,056 --> 00:10:31,230 biz, and you wanna can take some photographs 292 00:10:31,288 --> 00:10:33,281 and things like that and meet Renee and 293 00:10:33,281 --> 00:10:34,317 try this historic beer, 294 00:10:35,290 --> 00:10:36,889 let it let them know when you're checking 295 00:10:36,889 --> 00:10:38,170 then because we would like to get the 296 00:10:38,170 --> 00:10:39,850 word out about this because what we really 297 00:10:39,850 --> 00:10:42,269 wanna do eventually is get a historical 298 00:10:43,210 --> 00:10:44,330 landmark, a real 1, 299 00:10:45,776 --> 00:10:48,237 because this is history is national history. Yeah. 300 00:10:48,475 --> 00:10:50,619 Not just California, or Sonoma County has. And 301 00:10:50,619 --> 00:10:53,103 marking sonoma, this is where this craft beer 302 00:10:53,159 --> 00:10:53,659 revolution 303 00:10:54,287 --> 00:10:56,514 started. That's just so cool. Well, yeah. And 304 00:10:56,514 --> 00:10:58,184 your dad Jack Mc macarthur 305 00:10:58,582 --> 00:11:01,524 started new A brewing company in the town 306 00:11:01,524 --> 00:11:03,846 of sonoma. Yeah. So he was in the 307 00:11:03,846 --> 00:11:05,994 navy in the late sixties, and he was 308 00:11:05,994 --> 00:11:08,403 stationed in Scotland. He was a welder 309 00:11:09,017 --> 00:11:10,864 alps. For the nuclear submarines, 310 00:11:11,342 --> 00:11:13,174 and he would go into town in the 311 00:11:13,174 --> 00:11:15,427 evening and take part in 312 00:11:15,804 --> 00:11:18,911 enjoy the porter ale and staffs of Scotland. 313 00:11:19,404 --> 00:11:20,680 And he learned to brew while he was 314 00:11:20,680 --> 00:11:23,392 there. And then he was discharged to Northern 315 00:11:23,552 --> 00:11:24,052 California 316 00:11:24,828 --> 00:11:25,647 from the navy 317 00:11:26,024 --> 00:11:28,337 and was living in sonoma, and all there 318 00:11:28,337 --> 00:11:29,889 was to drink at that era 319 00:11:30,264 --> 00:11:31,615 was bud miller course. 320 00:11:32,331 --> 00:11:33,603 Yeah. And he said, well I guess if 321 00:11:33,683 --> 00:11:36,625 I want to drink those wonderful porter ai 322 00:11:36,625 --> 00:11:38,534 and stout, I have to brew them myself. 323 00:11:38,693 --> 00:11:41,412 So that's the inspiration for New A, 324 00:11:41,969 --> 00:11:44,673 the name new A, Sir Francis Drake when 325 00:11:44,673 --> 00:11:47,473 he, you know, found north in California. He 326 00:11:47,473 --> 00:11:49,462 named it new A. I don't know if 327 00:11:49,462 --> 00:11:50,974 you're knew that. And then the ship he 328 00:11:50,974 --> 00:11:52,804 was on was the Golden Hi, and that 329 00:11:52,804 --> 00:11:54,569 is the ship in that became part of 330 00:11:54,569 --> 00:11:57,271 the label of new album bringing Okay. So 331 00:11:57,271 --> 00:11:58,781 my dad had a sense of history and 332 00:11:58,781 --> 00:12:01,801 very to Impart that to the beer. And 333 00:12:01,801 --> 00:12:05,076 he retired. To what Northern Arkansas? Yeah. He's 334 00:12:05,076 --> 00:12:07,623 in Northwest Arkansas... So after he left New 335 00:12:07,702 --> 00:12:08,020 A, 336 00:12:08,816 --> 00:12:10,987 he went to the banks about 8 years 337 00:12:11,203 --> 00:12:11,521 into his... 338 00:12:12,807 --> 00:12:14,476 Endeavor, and they didn't understand what he was 339 00:12:14,476 --> 00:12:16,859 doing. They said, you know, starting a new 340 00:12:16,859 --> 00:12:18,448 beer company. It's like starting a new car 341 00:12:18,448 --> 00:12:20,926 company and going against Ford and Chevy. Why 342 00:12:20,926 --> 00:12:22,597 would you do that? Yeah. He, no. You 343 00:12:22,597 --> 00:12:24,426 don't understand doing something different, but they didn't 344 00:12:24,426 --> 00:12:26,835 finance them. So he did go to work 345 00:12:27,051 --> 00:12:29,459 with folks at Mend Brewing company for a 346 00:12:29,459 --> 00:12:32,173 while, and he was 1 of the folks 347 00:12:32,173 --> 00:12:34,727 that created Red tail Ale, which was 1 348 00:12:34,727 --> 00:12:36,976 of their flagship. Bruce. 1 of my favorite 349 00:12:36,976 --> 00:12:39,130 beers of all time wave. But Jack didn't 350 00:12:39,130 --> 00:12:40,566 really like working for other people. 351 00:12:41,763 --> 00:12:43,932 And so he went off he was an 352 00:12:43,932 --> 00:12:46,004 engineer by trade and went off and did 353 00:12:46,004 --> 00:12:48,634 other things and kind of was a little 354 00:12:48,634 --> 00:12:50,946 bitter and disappeared from the beer world until 355 00:12:51,025 --> 00:12:52,716 I've... Found him was reunited with him as 356 00:12:52,716 --> 00:12:53,355 an ind. 357 00:12:53,834 --> 00:12:55,511 My birth mother put me in touch with 358 00:12:55,511 --> 00:12:56,330 him long 359 00:12:56,868 --> 00:12:58,545 road to that... Old were you when you 360 00:12:58,545 --> 00:13:01,020 finally met your dad. So I found Linda 361 00:13:01,020 --> 00:13:02,623 found my birth mom when I was 30 362 00:13:02,623 --> 00:13:04,687 years old. Wow, And a couple years later 363 00:13:04,687 --> 00:13:05,163 was 364 00:13:05,639 --> 00:13:07,942 reunited with Jack, who did not know of 365 00:13:07,942 --> 00:13:08,577 my existence. 366 00:13:09,228 --> 00:13:11,379 Wow when he found out about it, he 367 00:13:11,379 --> 00:13:13,690 said it's a communist conspiracy. 368 00:13:14,965 --> 00:13:17,116 But he and his family were very warm 369 00:13:17,116 --> 00:13:18,964 and welcoming to me and it is been 370 00:13:18,964 --> 00:13:21,616 a wonderful journey. And then we brew 371 00:13:22,073 --> 00:13:23,668 the beer, and I started bringing him to 372 00:13:23,668 --> 00:13:25,501 these conferences and events, and people like, oh, 373 00:13:25,741 --> 00:13:27,016 check Mc macarthur is still around. 374 00:13:27,829 --> 00:13:30,780 Jim Cook gave us the Llc property back. 375 00:13:31,498 --> 00:13:33,254 Jackson said Renee, I wanna do anything with 376 00:13:33,254 --> 00:13:34,131 this. I'm retired. 377 00:13:34,945 --> 00:13:37,024 So why don't you run with it and 378 00:13:37,184 --> 00:13:38,784 I have, and I've re brew some of 379 00:13:38,784 --> 00:13:41,845 the beers with some Ohio breweries in the 380 00:13:41,904 --> 00:13:42,065 meanwhile. 381 00:13:42,795 --> 00:13:45,896 And the money that Jim Cook gave Jack, 382 00:13:46,134 --> 00:13:47,962 he was able to build a little retirement 383 00:13:47,962 --> 00:13:51,063 home on his sister's property in Northwest Arkansas. 384 00:13:51,794 --> 00:13:53,875 Which he was on disability at that point. 385 00:13:54,115 --> 00:13:55,014 And so 386 00:13:55,794 --> 00:13:57,875 that is how he ended up in Northwest 387 00:13:57,875 --> 00:13:59,394 argument, which he really enjoys. So tell me 388 00:13:59,394 --> 00:14:01,166 what you were saying? About when people message 389 00:14:01,166 --> 00:14:03,399 you, they're usually messaging from California or the 390 00:14:03,399 --> 00:14:05,792 west. Because because California gets it more. They 391 00:14:05,792 --> 00:14:07,945 do. And and while it's been very well 392 00:14:07,945 --> 00:14:09,914 received in Ohio, and I lived in North 393 00:14:09,954 --> 00:14:11,466 carolina for a little while and Raleigh Brewing, 394 00:14:12,182 --> 00:14:13,296 actually brew the beer we had at the 395 00:14:13,376 --> 00:14:15,763 Is Smithsonian event. I brew with Raleigh Brewing. 396 00:14:16,957 --> 00:14:20,336 I've had Carolina partnerships with all these breweries 397 00:14:20,632 --> 00:14:23,257 east of the Mississippi, but it's the people 398 00:14:23,257 --> 00:14:25,644 from California that write to me the most 399 00:14:25,644 --> 00:14:26,042 and say, 400 00:14:26,853 --> 00:14:28,289 when are you gonna bring New A back 401 00:14:28,289 --> 00:14:29,028 to California. 402 00:14:29,644 --> 00:14:31,159 Want it? We miss it. Yeah. I believe 403 00:14:31,159 --> 00:14:33,153 that. Yeah. That makes sense. It was very 404 00:14:33,153 --> 00:14:35,226 popular. She is Renee to Luca? We're talking 405 00:14:35,226 --> 00:14:38,354 about new a Brewing company, her father, Jack 406 00:14:38,513 --> 00:14:41,706 Mc macarthur founded new A in the town 407 00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:43,941 sonoma in 19 76. There's a lot going 408 00:14:43,941 --> 00:14:46,085 on, We'll talk more about the big thing 409 00:14:46,085 --> 00:14:47,896 at the museum of Sonoma County.