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Hey, b siders. Welcome to another episode of

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Bravo for the b side. This is Jim.

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And this is Danny. And

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we are

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so thrilled to be doing

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another episode so that the last one wasn't

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a fluke. Whoo. All of our time and

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effort hasn't been robbed from us. We're really

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back.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. As we're recording this, the

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other one's posted.

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Excellent. Everything works.

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So

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awesome. Yes. Yes.

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We have

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yet another movie that has been on

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our wait list.

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Yeah.

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We wanted to cover this one. Actually, we

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were planning on covering this one

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as well,

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before we stopped hosting before.

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Yeah. We even had interviews

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set up, and we're and we're setting up

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with the rest of the cast. So,

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yeah, we had to pull the plug on

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that.

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That's that is not a good feeling.

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No. It was it was horrible.

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But we're here,

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and I will see about getting them all

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back.

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I mean, they might be willing to. I

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know, at the very least, I'm I'm sure

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David would.

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Oh, yeah. You know, not just about this,

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but whatever else he's got going, we'd be

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happy to talk about.

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Do you want me to tell you about

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this movie? I would like you to tell

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us what we're going to get into.

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This movie is called

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I am rage.

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So

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yeah.

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Don't need to explain it.

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If made in 2023,

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directed

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by our good friend, Dave Ryan Keith,

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written by David Ryan Keith and Stephen Durham,

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starring

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Hanez

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Bang Bens.

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I'm so sorry if I butchered that.

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Marta Svetek,

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Derek Nelson, Antonia Williams, and Luke Aquilina.

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It was not rated, but it would

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be r.

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Easily.

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TV MA,

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depending on the service. Sometimes they label movies

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with TV ratings.

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I find that confusing.

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I do too. We'll do an episode about

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that maybe.

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Just do a whole episode about ratings? Yeah.

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Get it right.

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I mean, it would be interesting to, like,

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codify that into an episode because I think

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people are unclear about it sometimes.

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I mean, we are. I'm unclear about it.

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We might do the episode and come away

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still unclear.

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Right?

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Or maybe we do the episode, and then

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everyone comes to us, like,

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asking about ratings.

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that.

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Here is the

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log line.

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An ancient cult embroiled in a sinister blood

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trade

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makes the deadly mistake of abducting a young

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woman with a violent,

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shocking past.

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Yeah. That sounds about right. Yeah. That's accurate.

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let's just jump into this.

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know. We saw this

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in its, like, first raw cut. We did,

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and I was delighted. David sent us

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the screener. The music was way off. He

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found, like, all this YouTube music and shit

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put in there to fill in the gaps

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and stuff. It wasn't color corrected.

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our comeback. I don't wanna say first episode,

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but in our last episode.

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You know, we mentioned how we beat all

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these people and we had all these connections.

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One of the things about David, our relationship

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with him was so great because he trusted

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Mhmm. To take a look at this and

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take give me notes.

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Yeah. Right? He sent us a script.

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Did. Wasn't even, like, spell checked.

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What do you think? Have a read. Yeah.

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Because he knows we'll be honest. Mhmm.

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that trust.

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watching this when

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it did get completed

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and then, you know, we get the finished

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version.

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We'll talk more about this at the end,

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but you could see

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with the raw bit, you could see David.

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you're like,

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this is how good David is.

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like, all the way through. Right. Really good.

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Why don't we dive into this movie? Let's

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do it. Alright.

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So we open with a woman applying lipstick,

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slipping on some gloves.

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Nice leather,

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dark ones. Very sinister. I dug that a

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lot. Oh, yeah. It's very moody Yeah. These

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opening credits. Yeah.

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And then we see that we're in a

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room. If there's a man tied to a

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chair,

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I'm in. And then another figure

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in a mask

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comes in

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and goes over to a table and laid

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out on it. He or some knives and,

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you know, looking them over.

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Now the dude tied to the chair is

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not about

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the the

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the eye shopping

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Right. Going on.

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And then when the master figure starts touching

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him, like,

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you know. Yeah. It's not consensual torture.

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And then so the figure in the mask

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takes out a knife, walks over,

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cuts the guy free.

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but even more confused is the guy who

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is in the chair.

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gets it together real quick, and he lunges

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and takes the knife.

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The mask figure backs up, removes the mask,

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and it's the woman who was putting on

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lipstick and the gloves.

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and coolly

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starts after the guy.

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doesn't help. Just kinda, like, taking a look.

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So this woman disarms the captive,

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handily beats him to the ground.

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She grabs the captive by the hair and

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then shouts to the other master figure,

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fuck it now.

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Bucket comes, and then she just slits the

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guy's throat.

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It just starts emptying him into the bucket.

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It's pretty brutal. It is.

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And the fight was excellent. It was. Yes.

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We'll come back around.

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So then a guy in a doctor's smock

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comes in and says,

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I wish you would stop making such a

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mess. It's a waste of good product.

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And then the woman answers, what would be

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the fun in that?

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Then shoves the bullet filled bucket into his

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arms and it splashes.

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You know? Yeah.

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So let me cut to a woman

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sleeping.

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There's a door behind her.

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open up the door, come charging in,

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and then suddenly,

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there's a quick flash to her

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covered in blood

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and screaming. Mhmm. Like,

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you know,

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lost your mind kind of screaming.

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hard cut.

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It's her standing in front of a mirror,

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and she reaches for a bottle of pills.

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Later, there's a knock at the door.

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Fellow is there. It appears to be her

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boyfriend.

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Is picking her up to go camping. Sounds

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like they're gonna camp, like, one night and

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then go see his parents.

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be 8th parents' time

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in the relationship.

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Yep. We'll come back to that.

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And then we learned his brother is also

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coming.

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his girlfriend

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as well.

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about it.

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to calm her,

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he also says,

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his sister's coming.

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you know anyway, they get in the car.

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She's she's very reluctant,

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but seems like,

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okay. Maybe I can weather this.

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to do it. I I mean yeah. It

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at first glance, it she definitely has that

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like like, when people, like, I gotta get

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out more or I gotta do something. I

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gotta engage with the world more. And you

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can just see the distaste in their face

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at the whole situation. Yeah. But you see

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that determination back behind their eyes. Like, I'm

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gonna do this. Goddamn it. Oh, yeah. I'm

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gonna be social. I'm gonna be kind, and

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then I'm gonna come home and hovel for

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another month. Right. Go out again. Yeah.

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they're driving through the woods

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on this little path, and there's a woman

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laying in the middle of the dirt road.

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The the main girl gets out of the

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car, goes to check on her while the

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guy calls out Michael.

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He's calling out

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presumably his brother. I mean, that would be

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my presumption. Yeah.

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We learned his name is Adam.

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The the girl in the middle of the

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road, who's blonde,

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was faking.

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It's like this little practical joke. Yeah. So

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the the main girl,

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who I'm gonna call brunette for now,

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punches her,

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because she she's, like, shocked. This girl turns

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around. It's like

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Point of clarification. Mhmm. She's blonde,

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but she's not the woman from I didn't

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I don't think I mentioned that. Oh, right.

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She's not the the evil woman in the

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beginning. Yes.

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The brother shows up, Michael shows up,

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and they're all kind of, you know,

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chatting about this. But the main girl who

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we learned is Erin Mhmm. Was just going

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sort of wild

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about this whole situation. Oh, yeah.

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And she ends up running off. Adam chases

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her. Adam's the the guy who's her boyfriend.

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And he asked her what happened, and she

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is just like, I don't know. I just,

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you know,

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lost it for a minute.

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She has

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that pill bottle from earlier, and he asked

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her what it's for, and she doesn't really

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wanna talk about it.

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So then he's back to smiling and laughing.

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He's very charming, this guy. And he says,

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oh, I should've known my brother would've pulled

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something stupid like this. And he ends up

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going back. He leaves her there briefly.

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So that night,

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they're all around the fire. Aaron apologizes, and

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the blonde girl also apologizes.

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And the blonde girl asked Aaron if she's

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famous because she looks familiar.

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Right. And Aaron's like, oh, no. I just

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have one of those faces.

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Michael, the brother, says that she's interesting.

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And during this conversation, which I didn't, like,

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fully document the conversation, but,

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Michael says Adam is the boring one.

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And,

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he and the blonde girl go to bed.

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Erin and Adam have their short little conversation,

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and we learn

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what I tell from this is their relationship

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is new.

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They don't know each other very well.

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Right. She still seems a little on the

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fence about him.

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Yeah. Well, she says it verbatim.

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Yeah. I barely know you. Yeah.

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I think at some point, they mentioned they've

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been dating for, like, 3 months

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Yeah. If I remember correctly. Yeah. So it

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is pretty new.

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And 3 months isn't always

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I mean,

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it's different for every relationship, but, like,

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the meet the parents time,

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3 months is a little early ish.

331
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Yeah. You know?

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Unless you're one of those people who just

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introduces everyone to your parents.

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That would be creepy.

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It would.

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There's something wrong with that person.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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Yeah. And and I would think their parents

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would step up and say, stop.

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Please stop.

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Yeah. At least 6 months Right. Minimum.

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So

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the next day, they're pulling up to the

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house,

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and there's a lot of talk about the

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boys' parents being rich.

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And

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this first house they pull up to is

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not actually the house proper.

351
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Right. It's like a gatehouse or something. I

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I I call it the gardener's house or

353
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the yard guy's house. Right.

354
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Somebody somebody who works on the estate lives

355
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in it. Right. So it wasn't actually like

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a

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gate

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or anything nearby.

359
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Right. But the boys going in kinda check-in

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with him, they come back out, they leave.

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That guy radios ahead to the main house,

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And they get up to the house, and

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it's this, like, big, beautiful,

364
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red

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country

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estate

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or just mansion place.

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And they they're they're all kinda piling out

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of the car and stuff. And Adam turns

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to Aaron and says that his parents are

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gonna love her.

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Yeah.

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So

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they go inside, and there's, like, a lot

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of very weird conversation at this point happening.

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A lot of little comments that are just

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very strange, like Adam saying his parent that

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like, she's looking at Aaron's looking at a

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deer head on the wall.

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Oh, yeah. And Aaron says that his parents

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live by the hunt. They only eat what

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they kill.

383
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Right.

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And I'm like, if I were her, I'd

385
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be like, you know, that's weird. That's a

386
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weird thing that you said. Right?

387
00:14:21,375 --> 00:14:22,995
Well, I I mean

388
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oh, in in any condition, that would be

389
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weird. That's Even if it's true.

390
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It's an odd opener. It's a weird thing

391
00:14:31,375 --> 00:14:33,774
to say. Right. But when you pull up

392
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to a house like this

393
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Mhmm. And it kinda reminds you every time

394
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we watch it and they're going through the

395
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whole drive from one house to the next,

396
00:14:40,529 --> 00:14:42,389
I always think of, like, quickly down under,

397
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you know. Sure. When are we gonna get

398
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there? You know, oh, you've been on this

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land the last 3 days.

400
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You know,

401
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This place is massive. Right. You don't get

402
00:14:51,384 --> 00:14:53,304
a place like this just because you you

403
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hunt and eat your own food. So

404
00:14:57,065 --> 00:14:59,965
yeah. It just didn't quite Yeah. Anyway.

405
00:15:00,665 --> 00:15:02,684
So they go into this room, and

406
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Michael and the blonde girl have this, like,

407
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horn,

408
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and there is a custom to announce their

409
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arrival by blowing the horn.

410
00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:12,220
Yeah.

411
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And there's a lot of talk about, like,

412
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traditions.

413
00:15:17,485 --> 00:15:19,105
Mhmm. We have all these traditions.

414
00:15:20,524 --> 00:15:22,625
So Aaron blows the horn, and then,

415
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mom and dad come in.

416
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They greet the boys.

417
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Dad's very gregarious.

418
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He talks a lot. Mom's very quiet.

419
00:15:31,804 --> 00:15:32,304
Yeah.

420
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She's she's a looker, not like, oh, you

421
00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:37,179
know, she's she's pretty.

422
00:15:37,559 --> 00:15:40,200
Yeah. She's well, I don't think she's even

423
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watching. She's just looking.

424
00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,899
Yeah. She has looks.

425
00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:45,500
And I love

426
00:15:46,279 --> 00:15:47,100
this woman,

427
00:15:47,785 --> 00:15:49,004
this actor. Creepy.

428
00:15:50,504 --> 00:15:51,404
Just every

429
00:15:51,945 --> 00:15:53,965
time, it's a slightly different

430
00:15:54,585 --> 00:15:56,585
look. And there's not, like, really any story

431
00:15:56,585 --> 00:15:59,004
behind it, but it's uncomfortable as hell.

432
00:15:59,465 --> 00:16:02,019
It is. Every time. And I when, you

433
00:16:02,019 --> 00:16:03,940
know, when we rewatched it for this, I'm

434
00:16:03,940 --> 00:16:04,440
like,

435
00:16:04,820 --> 00:16:06,899
she's fucking awesome, but she's still creepy as

436
00:16:06,899 --> 00:16:08,759
shit even though I know what's going on.

437
00:16:08,899 --> 00:16:09,399
Right.

438
00:16:11,700 --> 00:16:14,279
So Adam asks where Margaret is.

439
00:16:14,735 --> 00:16:16,435
We presume that's the sister.

440
00:16:16,975 --> 00:16:17,475
Right.

441
00:16:18,175 --> 00:16:18,675
And,

442
00:16:19,215 --> 00:16:20,975
dad says something you wanna have. Oh, she

443
00:16:20,975 --> 00:16:22,195
likes to make an entrance.

444
00:16:22,654 --> 00:16:25,134
And it's just like this whole conversation is

445
00:16:25,134 --> 00:16:26,035
super awkward.

446
00:16:27,549 --> 00:16:28,990
I learned that the blonde girl's name is

447
00:16:28,990 --> 00:16:29,490
Sarah.

448
00:16:30,589 --> 00:16:31,089
Yes.

449
00:16:31,470 --> 00:16:33,549
And Erin is super weirded out by all

450
00:16:33,549 --> 00:16:36,110
this, but Sarah, strangely, does not seem all

451
00:16:36,110 --> 00:16:37,169
that weirded out.

452
00:16:38,429 --> 00:16:41,309
No. No. She's Like, this is fine. Yeah.

453
00:16:41,309 --> 00:16:42,610
Whatever. Yeah.

454
00:16:44,725 --> 00:16:47,445
And there there's, like, conversation before about Sarah

455
00:16:47,445 --> 00:16:48,665
having just met Michael.

456
00:16:49,285 --> 00:16:51,845
You know? So maybe she's just sort of

457
00:16:51,845 --> 00:16:54,165
a leaf on the wind kinda gal. I

458
00:16:54,165 --> 00:16:55,605
I kinda got the idea she was a

459
00:16:55,605 --> 00:16:57,205
bit of a free spirit. Yeah. You know,

460
00:16:57,205 --> 00:16:58,700
that's fine. We'll come meet your parents. You

461
00:16:58,700 --> 00:17:00,559
know, whatever. Yeah. Cool.

462
00:17:02,539 --> 00:17:04,640
So then we cut to a field somewhere.

463
00:17:05,660 --> 00:17:08,160
There's a man smoking a cigar,

464
00:17:08,779 --> 00:17:11,279
walking along followed by 2 masked men.

465
00:17:12,375 --> 00:17:14,634
He walks over to a picnic table

466
00:17:15,335 --> 00:17:16,875
that's been set up in the woods,

467
00:17:17,654 --> 00:17:19,975
and sits down, and on the table is

468
00:17:19,975 --> 00:17:21,835
a rifle, long range rifle,

469
00:17:22,215 --> 00:17:23,035
on a tripod.

470
00:17:25,830 --> 00:17:27,430
So then we cut way off in the

471
00:17:27,430 --> 00:17:27,930
distance

472
00:17:28,230 --> 00:17:31,210
is a man who's tied between 2 trees.

473
00:17:31,990 --> 00:17:32,490
Mhmm.

474
00:17:35,845 --> 00:17:37,384
Yeah. Don't get a lot of time

475
00:17:37,845 --> 00:17:39,065
to absorb this

476
00:17:39,765 --> 00:17:41,945
Right. And to noodle it because the guy

477
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leans into the rifle, looks through the scope,

478
00:17:45,445 --> 00:17:46,745
takes a shot. He's like,

479
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high into the right because he missed the

480
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the guy. So he makes a quick adjustment.

481
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Then he calls out, left shoulder, fires, and

482
00:17:55,329 --> 00:17:57,490
poor tied up dude gets hit in the

483
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shoulder.

484
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Then the guy,

485
00:18:00,369 --> 00:18:01,190
who's shooting

486
00:18:01,650 --> 00:18:03,109
says, right wrist,

487
00:18:04,384 --> 00:18:06,244
ends up shooting the rope.

488
00:18:07,345 --> 00:18:09,845
Right. So the poor tied up dude,

489
00:18:13,424 --> 00:18:15,524
just like the guy in the basement, suddenly,

490
00:18:15,904 --> 00:18:16,884
moment of clarity,

491
00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,539
unties his other hand

492
00:18:20,079 --> 00:18:22,180
Yeah. And sprints into the woods.

493
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And then,

494
00:18:23,839 --> 00:18:26,079
the the rifle guy says, looks like we've

495
00:18:26,079 --> 00:18:26,820
got a runner.

496
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And then he suits up

497
00:18:30,595 --> 00:18:34,755
as a, like, wild safari hunter. Yeah. He's

498
00:18:34,755 --> 00:18:36,355
got the vest. He's got the hat. He's

499
00:18:36,355 --> 00:18:38,295
got the necklace with teeth and claws,

500
00:18:39,394 --> 00:18:41,394
and he's got his his big rifle, his

501
00:18:41,394 --> 00:18:41,894
sidearm,

502
00:18:42,434 --> 00:18:43,654
to pursue this fella.

503
00:18:44,035 --> 00:18:45,735
So then we go back to the house,

504
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:46,940
and,

505
00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:49,099
the ladies

506
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:51,000
Still weird. This

507
00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,880
The the ladies learn they'll be sharing a

508
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room.

509
00:18:58,775 --> 00:19:01,414
Just, you know, tradition well, not tradition, but

510
00:19:01,575 --> 00:19:04,375
They're old fashioned. They're old fashioned. Yeah. So

511
00:19:04,375 --> 00:19:06,294
they're not gonna be be able to stay

512
00:19:06,294 --> 00:19:06,954
with their

513
00:19:07,255 --> 00:19:09,494
their bows. I use that word because that's

514
00:19:09,494 --> 00:19:11,210
how they kinda come across.

515
00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:13,289
Oh, it's a bow.

516
00:19:18,869 --> 00:19:20,089
Aaron looks outside,

517
00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:23,049
and sees Michael and the yard guy,

518
00:19:24,134 --> 00:19:26,715
talking with dad. And Michael is holding,

519
00:19:27,654 --> 00:19:28,955
one of their suitcases.

520
00:19:29,654 --> 00:19:31,115
Yeah. The lady's suitcases.

521
00:19:31,815 --> 00:19:32,855
I can't remember if it was hers. I

522
00:19:32,855 --> 00:19:34,154
think it was hers or Sarah's.

523
00:19:34,934 --> 00:19:36,474
I don't know whose is his.

524
00:19:39,519 --> 00:19:42,000
And then she has this flashback while she's

525
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:42,740
staring out,

526
00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:46,019
just really quick.

527
00:19:47,590 --> 00:19:48,820
You know, stuff.

528
00:19:49,855 --> 00:19:52,095
Real fast across the screen. And then Sarah

529
00:19:52,095 --> 00:19:53,315
snaps her out of it.

530
00:19:53,934 --> 00:19:55,234
So they chat for a bit.

531
00:19:56,255 --> 00:19:57,154
Nothing great.

532
00:19:58,494 --> 00:20:00,115
Then Sarah says she remembers

533
00:20:01,054 --> 00:20:02,355
who Erin is.

534
00:20:03,089 --> 00:20:05,349
She's like, you're that girl who was adopted.

535
00:20:06,049 --> 00:20:07,349
That Or abducted.

536
00:20:07,730 --> 00:20:10,450
Yeah. I'm not even adopted. Okay. Yeah. Maybe

537
00:20:10,450 --> 00:20:11,990
it's spell checked me.

538
00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:13,990
Was abducted.

539
00:20:15,009 --> 00:20:16,529
And then I read about you in the

540
00:20:16,529 --> 00:20:18,710
paper. Erin just is like, stop.

541
00:20:21,544 --> 00:20:24,585
Sarah does. Kudos to her. So she's not

542
00:20:24,585 --> 00:20:26,345
like, you know, a bitch. I just wanna

543
00:20:26,345 --> 00:20:28,204
take a pause for a second. Okay.

544
00:20:29,065 --> 00:20:31,065
A lot of times so we have in

545
00:20:31,065 --> 00:20:31,804
in movies,

546
00:20:32,339 --> 00:20:34,179
Right? It's just like we have the Scooby

547
00:20:34,179 --> 00:20:35,859
gang and then we have the bad guys.

548
00:20:35,859 --> 00:20:36,759
Mhmm. Right?

549
00:20:38,019 --> 00:20:41,619
David has always inserted, like, just this real

550
00:20:41,619 --> 00:20:42,119
bitch

551
00:20:43,220 --> 00:20:45,640
into the Scooby gang to kinda, like,

552
00:20:46,414 --> 00:20:48,015
level them out a bit so they're not

553
00:20:48,015 --> 00:20:50,815
all Yeah. Right? I suppose you're right. Because

554
00:20:50,815 --> 00:20:52,974
you remember with Redwood Massacre? Yeah. I'm like,

555
00:20:52,974 --> 00:20:54,674
I hope she's first to fucking die.

556
00:20:56,414 --> 00:20:59,154
That one, she was just such a bitch.

557
00:20:59,535 --> 00:21:01,929
Oh my god. And she wasn't the first

558
00:21:01,929 --> 00:21:03,470
one to die. But, anyway,

559
00:21:04,569 --> 00:21:05,389
but Sarah

560
00:21:06,089 --> 00:21:08,809
is actually pretty cool. Yeah. Like, she is

561
00:21:08,809 --> 00:21:09,309
genuinely

562
00:21:10,089 --> 00:21:12,569
she's like, hey. If you ever wanna talk,

563
00:21:12,569 --> 00:21:13,309
I'll listen.

564
00:21:13,785 --> 00:21:15,945
You know? And I'm like, gosh. She really

565
00:21:15,945 --> 00:21:16,445
does

566
00:21:17,545 --> 00:21:19,705
the leaf in the wind. She's not a

567
00:21:19,705 --> 00:21:21,884
bad person. You know, the joke notwithstanding.

568
00:21:22,744 --> 00:21:23,725
You know, maybe,

569
00:21:24,904 --> 00:21:26,744
you know, Michael talked her into it, or

570
00:21:26,744 --> 00:21:28,845
she's just like, yeah. Whatever. Cool. You know?

571
00:21:29,049 --> 00:21:30,029
It would be fun.

572
00:21:31,769 --> 00:21:32,509
So, anyway,

573
00:21:33,450 --> 00:21:35,849
and Erin just kinda gives her a look,

574
00:21:35,849 --> 00:21:38,089
like, you know, I don't think that's gonna

575
00:21:38,089 --> 00:21:38,589
happen.

576
00:21:38,890 --> 00:21:39,390
Yeah.

577
00:21:39,930 --> 00:21:41,230
So, outside

578
00:21:41,529 --> 00:21:43,609
in the woods, we are back with our

579
00:21:43,609 --> 00:21:44,109
hunter,

580
00:21:45,105 --> 00:21:47,585
and he is tracking his prey, finding a

581
00:21:47,585 --> 00:21:48,404
blood trail.

582
00:21:49,424 --> 00:21:51,025
And I love the fact that he just,

583
00:21:51,025 --> 00:21:51,525
like,

584
00:21:53,184 --> 00:21:56,464
licks it. Yeah. You know? And I did

585
00:21:56,464 --> 00:21:57,365
have a thought.

586
00:21:57,759 --> 00:21:58,500
I'm like,

587
00:21:59,599 --> 00:22:01,779
what what was this guy's childhood?

588
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:05,299
What were his defining life moments?

589
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:06,980
Simply because

590
00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:09,119
you you just shot a guy. Mhmm. He's

591
00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,299
running through the woods. You're following him. Mhmm.

592
00:22:12,434 --> 00:22:14,434
Do you need to taste the blood? What

593
00:22:14,434 --> 00:22:16,615
could possibly be bleeding out there

594
00:22:18,035 --> 00:22:18,934
other than him?

595
00:22:19,474 --> 00:22:21,174
But this guy, he's like

596
00:22:21,634 --> 00:22:23,394
anyone who's ever seen the movie The Good

597
00:22:23,394 --> 00:22:23,894
Son.

598
00:22:24,740 --> 00:22:25,880
If Yeah. If

599
00:22:26,420 --> 00:22:29,299
spoilers ahead. If Macaulay Culkin's character in the

600
00:22:29,299 --> 00:22:31,220
movie had lived, he'd grow up to be

601
00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:33,779
this guy. Yeah. I always looked at this

602
00:22:33,779 --> 00:22:37,244
guy as, like, David Hasselhoff's evil twin. Well,

603
00:22:37,244 --> 00:22:39,505
because David Hasselhoff was like this oozy,

604
00:22:39,884 --> 00:22:41,664
almost bordering on smarmy,

605
00:22:42,125 --> 00:22:42,625
macho,

606
00:22:43,164 --> 00:22:45,424
you know, exuding. Sure. Sure. I'm a man.

607
00:22:45,724 --> 00:22:48,125
Yeah. And so is this guy. That's true.

608
00:22:48,125 --> 00:22:50,444
Right? Only, you know, Hasselhoff didn't run around

609
00:22:50,444 --> 00:22:50,944
Baywatch

610
00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:52,160
killing people.

611
00:22:53,660 --> 00:22:53,900
So

612
00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:56,559
and evil twin. They don't look alike.

613
00:22:57,340 --> 00:22:58,080
But, anyway

614
00:23:01,820 --> 00:23:02,320
so,

615
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:04,080
as they're walking through,

616
00:23:05,545 --> 00:23:07,224
they end up in some kind of a

617
00:23:07,224 --> 00:23:07,724
makeshift

618
00:23:08,025 --> 00:23:08,525
building.

619
00:23:10,025 --> 00:23:10,424
And

620
00:23:10,904 --> 00:23:11,404
Well,

621
00:23:11,705 --> 00:23:12,845
the small woods,

622
00:23:13,545 --> 00:23:15,865
as they're kinda going through it, from where

623
00:23:15,865 --> 00:23:16,525
he was

624
00:23:16,825 --> 00:23:18,205
or he's running through,

625
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,299
It is set up like this sort of

626
00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:23,200
like a like a paintball. I was just

627
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,559
gonna say it reminded me of, like, a

628
00:23:24,559 --> 00:23:25,059
paintball

629
00:23:25,519 --> 00:23:28,799
thing. Right. There are little buildings. There are,

630
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:31,440
like, things to hide behind. There's, like, barrels

631
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,779
and boxes. Some buildings are complete.

632
00:23:34,634 --> 00:23:36,875
Some are, like, three sides. Some are just,

633
00:23:36,875 --> 00:23:39,835
you know, two sides. Yeah. Making a corner

634
00:23:39,835 --> 00:23:41,835
kind of thing. Yeah. It's like a like

635
00:23:41,835 --> 00:23:43,855
a hunting playground. Yeah. Yeah.

636
00:23:45,755 --> 00:23:48,414
So, anyway, is the he's going through.

637
00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:50,809
The the guy who got shot jumps out

638
00:23:50,809 --> 00:23:52,029
and surprises the hunter,

639
00:23:52,650 --> 00:23:54,650
gets the rifle out of his hands, then

640
00:23:54,650 --> 00:23:55,630
a fight ensues.

641
00:23:56,410 --> 00:23:57,070
The hunter,

642
00:23:57,529 --> 00:23:58,029
again,

643
00:23:59,049 --> 00:24:00,570
doesn't have a problem putting him on the

644
00:24:00,570 --> 00:24:01,070
ground,

645
00:24:01,934 --> 00:24:03,234
and then slits his throat.

646
00:24:03,615 --> 00:24:04,115
That's

647
00:24:04,575 --> 00:24:05,075
2.

648
00:24:05,534 --> 00:24:07,934
2 kills. 2 kills. We're, like, 25 minutes

649
00:24:07,934 --> 00:24:08,914
into this movie.

650
00:24:09,294 --> 00:24:10,755
Yeah. And we've had 2

651
00:24:11,454 --> 00:24:12,914
very good throat slits.

652
00:24:13,294 --> 00:24:13,794
So

653
00:24:15,294 --> 00:24:15,794
sold.

654
00:24:17,910 --> 00:24:19,829
And, of course, you know, walks away, and

655
00:24:19,829 --> 00:24:20,650
he just kinda

656
00:24:21,109 --> 00:24:23,049
I guess that's gonna be a closed casket.

657
00:24:24,230 --> 00:24:26,230
Long, long, long as he's chewing on a

658
00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:26,730
cigar.

659
00:24:27,109 --> 00:24:27,609
Yes.

660
00:24:28,069 --> 00:24:29,929
And I only make fun of that because

661
00:24:30,069 --> 00:24:31,769
I've tried smoking cigars.

662
00:24:32,384 --> 00:24:34,625
I fucking hate them. And I don't know

663
00:24:34,625 --> 00:24:36,244
how anybody could take that

664
00:24:36,705 --> 00:24:39,525
big fat fucking sock full of leaves

665
00:24:39,825 --> 00:24:40,565
and branches

666
00:24:41,345 --> 00:24:42,884
and hold it in their mouth.

667
00:24:43,664 --> 00:24:45,184
And, you know, their teeth are, like, 4

668
00:24:45,184 --> 00:24:46,085
inches apart.

669
00:24:47,450 --> 00:24:49,769
It's just gnawing that all day. Yeah. I

670
00:24:49,769 --> 00:24:52,670
don't super understand this whole cigar thing either.

671
00:24:53,049 --> 00:24:54,349
But, you know,

672
00:24:54,650 --> 00:24:56,650
power to them. Sure. I'm just not gonna

673
00:24:56,650 --> 00:24:57,309
do it.

674
00:24:58,730 --> 00:24:58,970
It's

675
00:24:59,769 --> 00:25:01,230
so we're back at the house.

676
00:25:02,164 --> 00:25:03,065
Yeah. You talk

677
00:25:03,524 --> 00:25:04,024
about

678
00:25:04,484 --> 00:25:04,984
this

679
00:25:05,444 --> 00:25:05,944
one.

680
00:25:06,565 --> 00:25:07,065
Sarah

681
00:25:07,444 --> 00:25:08,984
has got her headphones in,

682
00:25:09,444 --> 00:25:10,804
and she's in a bath. And I love

683
00:25:10,804 --> 00:25:12,904
the bathtub. It's an old fashioned tub, freestanding,

684
00:25:13,524 --> 00:25:15,444
very big. Yeah. You know, it's the kind

685
00:25:15,444 --> 00:25:16,164
of thing that you

686
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,359
yeah, can almost, like, you know, strap yourself

687
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,559
to each side and do strokes in. Yes.

688
00:25:23,559 --> 00:25:26,380
Hold you in place. Like like, slim. Yeah.

689
00:25:28,279 --> 00:25:29,960
So she's sitting there, then we, you know,

690
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,115
the camera cuts and we see her we

691
00:25:32,115 --> 00:25:34,595
see her shoulders down to where the studs,

692
00:25:34,595 --> 00:25:36,115
you know. So actually, no. We didn't even

693
00:25:36,115 --> 00:25:37,575
get that far. The camera cuts

694
00:25:37,954 --> 00:25:39,974
before we see anything.

695
00:25:41,634 --> 00:25:43,414
Point that we'll we'll make later.

696
00:25:45,190 --> 00:25:47,769
And then these fingers start coming down her

697
00:25:47,990 --> 00:25:49,850
her shoulders, and she's like, oh,

698
00:25:50,390 --> 00:25:50,970
you know.

699
00:25:53,269 --> 00:25:53,769
However,

700
00:25:55,670 --> 00:25:56,730
as the viewer,

701
00:25:57,994 --> 00:25:58,494
instantly,

702
00:25:59,115 --> 00:26:00,174
they're like, oh,

703
00:26:00,875 --> 00:26:03,034
it's one of those. But then you're you're

704
00:26:03,034 --> 00:26:03,534
thinking,

705
00:26:04,554 --> 00:26:06,414
those don't look like manly hands.

706
00:26:06,794 --> 00:26:07,615
Well, it

707
00:26:07,994 --> 00:26:08,494
showed

708
00:26:10,169 --> 00:26:12,190
who it was before it showed the hands.

709
00:26:12,329 --> 00:26:13,230
Yeah. But

710
00:26:13,609 --> 00:26:14,429
it it

711
00:26:15,289 --> 00:26:17,789
it's just weird. Okay. It's just weird.

712
00:26:19,690 --> 00:26:20,190
So

713
00:26:21,384 --> 00:26:21,884
it's,

714
00:26:22,664 --> 00:26:24,424
well, she's rubbing her shoulders, then she starts

715
00:26:24,424 --> 00:26:25,644
playing with her hair.

716
00:26:26,184 --> 00:26:28,044
And then, like, she starts pulling it.

717
00:26:28,744 --> 00:26:30,525
At first, Sarah was like, oh.

718
00:26:31,384 --> 00:26:32,744
And then she turns around and sees that

719
00:26:32,744 --> 00:26:34,259
it's mom. Yeah.

720
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,380
And

721
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:38,099
mom says,

722
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:39,700
don't be late for dinner,

723
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:41,700
and then leaves.

724
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,759
And then there's this wide shot with Sarah

725
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:46,579
in the tub

726
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,335
smack in the middle of it. Mhmm. And

727
00:26:49,335 --> 00:26:50,634
her face is

728
00:26:50,934 --> 00:26:53,494
100 different kinds of what the ever loving

729
00:26:53,494 --> 00:26:56,234
fuck was that? Right. What just happened?

730
00:26:59,095 --> 00:27:00,694
And as we move into the next scene,

731
00:27:00,694 --> 00:27:03,279
folks, I'm gonna tell you, the creepiness from

732
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:05,619
what you just saw does not go away.

733
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:06,240
I just

734
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,660
It it lingers for a bit.

735
00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:12,799
So we cut to Erin who's alone in

736
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:14,480
in her room, and she's looking at her

737
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:14,980
pills.

738
00:27:15,865 --> 00:27:16,365
Mhmm.

739
00:27:17,464 --> 00:27:18,984
And then we talked to her. She's exploring

740
00:27:18,984 --> 00:27:19,565
the house.

741
00:27:20,025 --> 00:27:21,464
She walks into a room. There's a lot

742
00:27:21,464 --> 00:27:22,525
of pictures there.

743
00:27:23,065 --> 00:27:25,304
And one of them looks like an old

744
00:27:25,304 --> 00:27:26,284
timey photo,

745
00:27:26,664 --> 00:27:28,505
like, when you go to, like, you know,

746
00:27:28,505 --> 00:27:29,404
go to Tombstone

747
00:27:29,970 --> 00:27:31,490
and you get Right. You dress up as

748
00:27:31,490 --> 00:27:32,929
a cowboy, and they give you the, you

749
00:27:32,929 --> 00:27:33,829
know, the sepia

750
00:27:35,089 --> 00:27:36,230
photos and stuff.

751
00:27:36,849 --> 00:27:38,869
And in the picture, it looks like Adam,

752
00:27:39,169 --> 00:27:40,470
Michael, and dad.

753
00:27:42,464 --> 00:27:43,444
Roughly 1800.

754
00:27:44,545 --> 00:27:46,304
They work in cowboy outfits, but they were

755
00:27:46,304 --> 00:27:47,045
in that.

756
00:27:47,664 --> 00:27:48,644
Right. Right.

757
00:27:49,424 --> 00:27:51,664
So then Adam comes in, and says, oh,

758
00:27:51,664 --> 00:27:53,585
yeah. Those are my ancestors. They settled this

759
00:27:53,585 --> 00:27:54,804
land in, like, 1838.

760
00:27:56,609 --> 00:27:58,230
And then they start to make out.

761
00:27:59,170 --> 00:28:01,670
Adam gets a little too into it. Yeah.

762
00:28:02,130 --> 00:28:04,930
And Aaron freaks out and knocks his ass

763
00:28:04,930 --> 00:28:07,570
across the room Yeah. Onto the couch. That

764
00:28:07,570 --> 00:28:09,330
don't mean just, like, shoves. He stumbles and

765
00:28:09,330 --> 00:28:12,424
trips. This was like she He watches him.

766
00:28:12,424 --> 00:28:14,744
Hell, yeah. I don't think his heels hit

767
00:28:14,744 --> 00:28:16,764
the ground until he hit the couch. Yeah.

768
00:28:19,144 --> 00:28:21,784
And then she walks off. And I I

769
00:28:21,784 --> 00:28:23,784
remember watching this the first time, and it's

770
00:28:23,784 --> 00:28:25,660
the same thing every time. Like, my first

771
00:28:25,660 --> 00:28:26,400
thought is,

772
00:28:26,859 --> 00:28:28,619
this is a woman who is just not

773
00:28:28,619 --> 00:28:30,880
ready for a relationship right now. I know.

774
00:28:33,339 --> 00:28:35,580
It's very true. It's very clear that it

775
00:28:35,660 --> 00:28:36,940
she does not need to be in a

776
00:28:36,940 --> 00:28:38,480
relationship of any kind.

777
00:28:39,034 --> 00:28:40,794
Yeah. I For a while. I feel like

778
00:28:40,794 --> 00:28:43,595
she needs some me time Yeah. And needs

779
00:28:43,595 --> 00:28:45,755
to unpack a lot of stuff, which is

780
00:28:45,755 --> 00:28:46,255
fine,

781
00:28:47,595 --> 00:28:49,034
but it also doesn't help that, you know,

782
00:28:49,034 --> 00:28:50,554
she's got this guy, Adam. It seems like

783
00:28:50,554 --> 00:28:52,634
he's fairly nice, but then he just, like

784
00:28:52,714 --> 00:28:53,534
he's, like,

785
00:28:54,190 --> 00:28:55,950
cruising at, like, 40%, and then all of

786
00:28:55,950 --> 00:28:57,170
a sudden, he's, like, a 110.

787
00:28:57,950 --> 00:28:59,650
Right. Like, dude, read the room.

788
00:29:00,269 --> 00:29:01,250
Right? Okay.

789
00:29:03,869 --> 00:29:04,369
Then

790
00:29:05,070 --> 00:29:07,309
we are out in the garage, and Adam

791
00:29:07,309 --> 00:29:08,529
is going through her luggage.

792
00:29:09,785 --> 00:29:11,384
Yeah. And the girls I wanna make it

793
00:29:11,384 --> 00:29:13,785
clear. The girls have asked for their luggage

794
00:29:14,105 --> 00:29:16,984
Yes. Prior to this point, and they've been

795
00:29:16,984 --> 00:29:19,005
just sort of brushed off. Right.

796
00:29:20,345 --> 00:29:20,845
Ignored.

797
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:21,930
Yeah.

798
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:24,730
He finds one of her pill bottles,

799
00:29:25,109 --> 00:29:25,930
takes it.

800
00:29:26,869 --> 00:29:29,830
Inside, Sarah and Aaron are telling dad that

801
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:32,309
they need their bags. Yeah. Yeah. That seems

802
00:29:32,309 --> 00:29:32,809
appropriate.

803
00:29:33,445 --> 00:29:34,805
He assures them the bags will be in

804
00:29:34,805 --> 00:29:36,585
their rooms after dinner.

805
00:29:37,525 --> 00:29:38,505
No explanation.

806
00:29:39,125 --> 00:29:41,865
Right. Weird. Another this is a weird family.

807
00:29:46,569 --> 00:29:49,470
Sarah whispers to Aaron. Heads up.

808
00:29:49,929 --> 00:29:51,470
Mother is a fucking lunatic.

809
00:29:55,450 --> 00:29:55,950
Oh,

810
00:29:56,409 --> 00:29:58,329
that just came out of nowhere. I love

811
00:29:58,329 --> 00:30:00,349
Sarah. Oh, that that was awesome.

812
00:30:00,775 --> 00:30:02,474
So they go into the dining room.

813
00:30:03,174 --> 00:30:05,815
Creepy mom is already there Mhmm. With another

814
00:30:05,815 --> 00:30:08,054
look. And I I I can't stress this

815
00:30:08,054 --> 00:30:08,554
enough.

816
00:30:08,934 --> 00:30:11,734
This woman, during filming, did not give the

817
00:30:11,734 --> 00:30:12,795
same look twice.

818
00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:15,519
It's a new bag of tricks every time

819
00:30:15,519 --> 00:30:18,000
they they even if they show her show

820
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,079
somebody talking and come back to her, something

821
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:20,579
different.

822
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,419
She's got a different

823
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,200
whether it's an eye or a lip or

824
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,819
something. She has just

825
00:30:27,119 --> 00:30:28,419
creeps me out.

826
00:30:28,744 --> 00:30:30,585
What's funny, because she doesn't say very much.

827
00:30:30,585 --> 00:30:32,904
Throughout the entire film, she doesn't say a

828
00:30:32,904 --> 00:30:34,125
whole lot. Right.

829
00:30:35,305 --> 00:30:37,945
But she speaks with her eyes. She does.

830
00:30:37,945 --> 00:30:40,845
She she is, hands down, the most unsettling

831
00:30:41,065 --> 00:30:42,125
character. Yeah.

832
00:30:45,049 --> 00:30:46,589
Alright. Now I lost my spot.

833
00:30:47,529 --> 00:30:49,130
Okay. So they go in the creep,

834
00:30:49,450 --> 00:30:51,470
go into the dining room. Creepy mom's there.

835
00:30:51,529 --> 00:30:53,929
They all sit down. Mom says they will

836
00:30:53,929 --> 00:30:56,109
start with the traditional drink. Now,

837
00:30:56,894 --> 00:30:57,795
knowing David,

838
00:30:58,174 --> 00:30:59,075
knowing horror

839
00:31:00,095 --> 00:31:03,055
right? Oh, yeah. Any horror fan knows, oh,

840
00:31:03,055 --> 00:31:05,375
this is where shit's about to Yes. Go

841
00:31:05,375 --> 00:31:07,634
south of the border here. Oh, no.

842
00:31:09,319 --> 00:31:09,819
So

843
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,900
dad walks around pouring drinks.

844
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:13,819
Some prattling

845
00:31:14,359 --> 00:31:16,279
on by him doesn't, you know and then

846
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:17,980
mom says, a toast.

847
00:31:18,839 --> 00:31:21,079
Aaron and Sarah drink. Everyone else puts their

848
00:31:21,079 --> 00:31:23,160
glasses down. At which point, I thought, even

849
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:24,220
if they had noticed,

850
00:31:25,384 --> 00:31:27,464
their only recourse would be try to try

851
00:31:27,464 --> 00:31:29,325
to immediately induce vomiting.

852
00:31:29,625 --> 00:31:31,144
Right. But I don't think that would have

853
00:31:31,144 --> 00:31:32,684
been a viable option anyway.

854
00:31:32,984 --> 00:31:35,404
Probably not. So they didn't catch that yet.

855
00:31:37,159 --> 00:31:39,079
Sarah's like, wow. The fuck did you give

856
00:31:39,079 --> 00:31:40,859
me? This is disgusting. Gross.

857
00:31:42,119 --> 00:31:43,019
Then and then,

858
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,640
as they're holding the glasses, everyone else is

859
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:47,240
down and their hands are away from their

860
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,599
glasses. And Sarah or Aaron does ask, why

861
00:31:50,599 --> 00:31:51,579
aren't they drinking?

862
00:31:52,715 --> 00:31:53,615
At which point

863
00:31:54,555 --> 00:31:56,795
And then everyone starts to laugh Yeah. Except

864
00:31:56,795 --> 00:31:57,855
for Aaron and Sarah.

865
00:31:59,035 --> 00:32:00,634
And it doesn't take long for the drink

866
00:32:00,634 --> 00:32:01,535
to take effect.

867
00:32:01,994 --> 00:32:02,394
They're

868
00:32:04,475 --> 00:32:06,575
you know, things are shimmery and everything.

869
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,139
Michael just walks up, kneels down by Sarah,

870
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:13,679
and says he's going to enjoy watching her

871
00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:15,059
bleed. I know.

872
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,779
And she's just looking at him like What?

873
00:32:20,414 --> 00:32:23,455
Aaron, trooper that she is, tries to stumble

874
00:32:23,455 --> 00:32:23,955
away.

875
00:32:24,975 --> 00:32:26,515
She does not get far.

876
00:32:27,615 --> 00:32:29,775
Right. Well, it looks like Aaron has a

877
00:32:29,775 --> 00:32:30,914
little bit of a

878
00:32:31,295 --> 00:32:33,475
higher tolerance or something, like,

879
00:32:33,890 --> 00:32:36,309
than Sarah does? Because Sarah is basically immediately

880
00:32:36,370 --> 00:32:38,049
like, ugh. Well, I

881
00:32:38,850 --> 00:32:40,630
so before you go to the next bit,

882
00:32:40,690 --> 00:32:42,690
something I noticed neither one of us did

883
00:32:42,850 --> 00:32:44,630
Mhmm. Was talk about the watch.

884
00:32:46,224 --> 00:32:48,884
Oh, I have it in my notes. Oh,

885
00:32:49,264 --> 00:32:51,105
because up to this well, do you want

886
00:32:51,105 --> 00:32:53,764
me to let you do it then? Sure.

887
00:32:54,384 --> 00:32:54,884
Okay.

888
00:32:56,625 --> 00:32:58,724
I don't have anything about it in here.

889
00:32:58,784 --> 00:33:02,109
But periodically throughout this Oh. Film Oh. Erin's

890
00:33:02,109 --> 00:33:04,210
watch has been going off at at intervals

891
00:33:05,549 --> 00:33:07,409
as a reminder for her pills,

892
00:33:07,950 --> 00:33:10,109
which she has looked at every time her

893
00:33:10,109 --> 00:33:12,289
watch goes off, but she has not

894
00:33:12,750 --> 00:33:15,924
taken any of them. The pills are not

895
00:33:15,924 --> 00:33:18,825
every 4 hours kind of alarm. Right.

896
00:33:19,284 --> 00:33:21,204
It's her it's a watch that's like a

897
00:33:21,204 --> 00:33:23,544
Fitbit, you know, could be an Apple Watch,

898
00:33:23,605 --> 00:33:24,105
whatever.

899
00:33:24,484 --> 00:33:28,184
Anything that monitors her her her body. Yeah.

900
00:33:28,244 --> 00:33:28,984
Her breathing

901
00:33:30,230 --> 00:33:31,850
is what she specifically said.

902
00:33:32,309 --> 00:33:32,809
Because

903
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:34,950
once when she when they had the argument

904
00:33:34,950 --> 00:33:37,110
in the woods Mhmm. And she told them

905
00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:39,029
to, you know, fuck off somewhere else. She

906
00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:39,509
was like

907
00:33:43,065 --> 00:33:45,325
trying to get her breathing under control. Mhmm.

908
00:33:45,464 --> 00:33:46,764
Trying to keep herself

909
00:33:47,865 --> 00:33:49,404
powered down, basically.

910
00:33:49,704 --> 00:33:51,244
Right. Right? So

911
00:33:52,505 --> 00:33:53,484
at this point,

912
00:33:54,825 --> 00:33:55,884
as we are

913
00:33:56,349 --> 00:33:58,509
going towards the end of this, you know,

914
00:33:58,509 --> 00:34:00,450
drug thing through their eyes

915
00:34:02,909 --> 00:34:04,049
Oh, yeah. Yeah.

916
00:34:05,470 --> 00:34:05,970
So

917
00:34:06,509 --> 00:34:07,809
everything goes black.

918
00:34:08,765 --> 00:34:11,724
Aaron wakes up to see the boys peeling

919
00:34:11,724 --> 00:34:13,985
some skin off of Sarah's arm.

920
00:34:15,485 --> 00:34:17,344
Both the girls are tied up in chairs,

921
00:34:18,765 --> 00:34:21,005
and they are, like, peeling a little a

922
00:34:21,005 --> 00:34:21,825
little rectangle

923
00:34:22,949 --> 00:34:25,750
of skin off of Sarah's arm. With a

924
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:28,409
razor. Yeah. They're, like, cutting a little, pulling?

925
00:34:28,949 --> 00:34:32,329
Right. Cutting, pulling. Very unpleasant looking. Yeah.

926
00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:33,849
And there's

927
00:34:34,230 --> 00:34:34,969
some tubes

928
00:34:35,364 --> 00:34:37,065
kind of, like, coming out of her,

929
00:34:38,164 --> 00:34:40,565
with blood and there's buckets. It's like draining

930
00:34:40,565 --> 00:34:41,465
into the buckets.

931
00:34:42,405 --> 00:34:45,385
And Adam tells Aaron he's glad she's awake,

932
00:34:46,644 --> 00:34:47,785
and he explains,

933
00:34:49,230 --> 00:34:50,849
while they're still torturing Sarah,

934
00:34:51,550 --> 00:34:53,809
that they harvest adrenochrome from people.

935
00:34:54,909 --> 00:34:55,409
And

936
00:34:55,710 --> 00:34:57,650
the way to do that is to inflict

937
00:34:57,710 --> 00:34:59,650
pain so that you spike adrenaline.

938
00:34:59,949 --> 00:35:00,449
Yeah.

939
00:35:01,324 --> 00:35:01,824
And

940
00:35:02,844 --> 00:35:03,344
Aaron

941
00:35:03,885 --> 00:35:05,664
doesn't seem to care at all

942
00:35:06,204 --> 00:35:07,505
about his little speech.

943
00:35:08,204 --> 00:35:09,025
She just says,

944
00:35:09,484 --> 00:35:11,025
I'm gonna kill you all,

945
00:35:12,364 --> 00:35:13,744
and, like, fairly emotionlessly.

946
00:35:14,444 --> 00:35:14,944
Mhmm.

947
00:35:15,590 --> 00:35:16,090
Right?

948
00:35:16,469 --> 00:35:18,250
She gets laughed. Yeah. Yeah.

949
00:35:20,789 --> 00:35:22,710
We cut to a car pulling up the

950
00:35:22,710 --> 00:35:24,890
drive, and mom and dad look nervous.

951
00:35:25,989 --> 00:35:26,489
It's

952
00:35:27,110 --> 00:35:28,170
lipstick woman,

953
00:35:29,934 --> 00:35:30,994
who is Margaret,

954
00:35:31,614 --> 00:35:32,355
and, apparently,

955
00:35:33,214 --> 00:35:34,835
Margaret's the one in charge.

956
00:35:36,574 --> 00:35:38,434
So back in the basement with the girls,

957
00:35:39,614 --> 00:35:41,315
Michael gets a radio call

958
00:35:41,869 --> 00:35:44,449
to bring up a sample for a client

959
00:35:45,710 --> 00:35:46,530
who is,

960
00:35:46,989 --> 00:35:48,130
the hunter guy.

961
00:35:49,630 --> 00:35:50,030
Yeah.

962
00:35:50,829 --> 00:35:51,809
Mister Wilson.

963
00:35:52,110 --> 00:35:54,929
Mhmm. I think they named him. Right.

964
00:35:56,704 --> 00:35:59,425
And said and then Adam turns to Erin

965
00:35:59,425 --> 00:36:01,204
while Michael heads off

966
00:36:01,505 --> 00:36:04,485
and says, let's get your adrenaline adrenaline up.

967
00:36:05,105 --> 00:36:06,704
And she says, well, you shouldn't do that

968
00:36:06,704 --> 00:36:07,844
because of my condition.

969
00:36:09,889 --> 00:36:11,190
And he is unconcerned.

970
00:36:12,849 --> 00:36:15,009
At which point, her watch goes off, and

971
00:36:15,009 --> 00:36:17,650
she rips the whole arm of the chair

972
00:36:17,650 --> 00:36:20,690
off of the chair. Yeah. She's taped to

973
00:36:20,690 --> 00:36:23,474
it. Right? They're not rope bound to these

974
00:36:23,474 --> 00:36:23,974
chairs.

975
00:36:24,355 --> 00:36:26,934
They're like Duct taped. Duct taped. Yeah.

976
00:36:27,394 --> 00:36:29,954
And her her arm just, like, pulls the

977
00:36:29,954 --> 00:36:32,355
whole arm of this wooden chair off, and

978
00:36:32,355 --> 00:36:34,775
then she proceeds to just kick his ass.

979
00:36:38,090 --> 00:36:39,550
After he's on the ground,

980
00:36:41,369 --> 00:36:43,369
she looks at her pill bottles. She even,

981
00:36:43,369 --> 00:36:46,329
like, pulls one out Yeah. And considers taking

982
00:36:46,329 --> 00:36:48,890
it, but does not. Drops it on the

983
00:36:48,890 --> 00:36:49,789
ground. Yep.

984
00:36:50,164 --> 00:36:52,344
Then she goes to Sarah and unties her.

985
00:36:54,244 --> 00:36:55,945
We jump to the hunting guy,

986
00:36:56,484 --> 00:36:57,385
mister Wilson.

987
00:36:58,005 --> 00:36:59,864
I just call him the hunting guy,

988
00:37:00,164 --> 00:37:02,405
like, for the whole thing. I mostly when

989
00:37:02,405 --> 00:37:04,804
I settled on the hunter Mhmm. Didn't wanna

990
00:37:04,804 --> 00:37:06,789
give it away with, you know, hunt because

991
00:37:06,789 --> 00:37:08,549
we didn't know he was the hunter Right.

992
00:37:08,710 --> 00:37:09,929
That we first saw it.

993
00:37:10,309 --> 00:37:11,949
But, yeah, I I use the hunter, but

994
00:37:11,949 --> 00:37:13,909
I use case and use mister Wilson. Shouldn't

995
00:37:13,909 --> 00:37:15,210
mix it up a little bit.

996
00:37:16,869 --> 00:37:18,010
Margaret is there,

997
00:37:18,525 --> 00:37:20,605
and he's talking about how he's been delighted

998
00:37:20,605 --> 00:37:21,585
with his stay,

999
00:37:23,005 --> 00:37:24,924
and they're working out a deal for him

1000
00:37:24,924 --> 00:37:26,844
to buy the blood that they harvest from

1001
00:37:26,844 --> 00:37:27,344
people.

1002
00:37:28,204 --> 00:37:30,204
And he calls it the elixir of life

1003
00:37:30,525 --> 00:37:32,464
Mhmm. The fountain of youth.

1004
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:35,110
And so you can kind of infer that

1005
00:37:35,110 --> 00:37:36,869
all these people drink this stuff, and it

1006
00:37:36,869 --> 00:37:38,710
keeps them looking young for quite a while

1007
00:37:38,869 --> 00:37:39,610
long time.

1008
00:37:39,989 --> 00:37:41,449
It's not like vampires.

1009
00:37:43,829 --> 00:37:44,329
No.

1010
00:37:44,789 --> 00:37:46,730
Well, it it it's that myth.

1011
00:37:47,525 --> 00:37:50,485
Right. Of, you know it's like, Silicon Valley,

1012
00:37:50,485 --> 00:37:51,385
the blood boy.

1013
00:37:54,724 --> 00:37:55,224
Okay.

1014
00:37:55,605 --> 00:37:56,105
Oh,

1015
00:37:56,644 --> 00:37:58,164
fear and loathing when they have that little

1016
00:37:58,164 --> 00:37:59,730
bit in the hotel room about the adrenochrome.

1017
00:37:59,730 --> 00:38:00,230
You

1018
00:38:00,769 --> 00:38:01,510
know, the guy said, you know, Jake does

1019
00:38:01,510 --> 00:38:02,230
it. I'll

1020
00:38:02,690 --> 00:38:02,806
do all this and stuff, but also, you

1021
00:38:02,806 --> 00:38:02,937
know, take you make you live longer and

1022
00:38:02,937 --> 00:38:03,889
all this bullshit. Anyway, he tries the blood,

1023
00:38:03,889 --> 00:38:05,109
and he's like, I'll

1024
00:38:05,489 --> 00:38:06,389
take it all.

1025
00:38:17,605 --> 00:38:18,505
At which point,

1026
00:38:18,964 --> 00:38:21,284
mom, who's been kind of in the background

1027
00:38:21,284 --> 00:38:21,944
of this

1028
00:38:22,404 --> 00:38:24,585
conversation between Margaret and Hunter,

1029
00:38:27,125 --> 00:38:29,125
turns to Michael, who's brought the cup up

1030
00:38:29,125 --> 00:38:30,184
for him to try,

1031
00:38:30,549 --> 00:38:32,630
and says, check on Adam. She's got a

1032
00:38:32,630 --> 00:38:33,369
bad feeling.

1033
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:34,329
Mhmm.

1034
00:38:35,589 --> 00:38:37,269
We cut back to the girls who are,

1035
00:38:37,269 --> 00:38:38,569
like, putting on clothes,

1036
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:41,670
when Michael comes in and finds Adam on

1037
00:38:41,670 --> 00:38:42,329
the ground,

1038
00:38:45,014 --> 00:38:47,195
at which point Aaron's watch very inconveniently

1039
00:38:47,574 --> 00:38:48,875
goes off Oh, yeah.

1040
00:38:49,894 --> 00:38:51,734
And alerts Michael to where they are. So

1041
00:38:51,734 --> 00:38:53,255
he rushes off to find them, and we

1042
00:38:53,255 --> 00:38:54,614
get this little bit of a cat and

1043
00:38:54,614 --> 00:38:55,914
mouse game Mhmm.

1044
00:38:56,949 --> 00:38:57,269
Until,

1045
00:38:58,789 --> 00:38:59,289
Sarah

1046
00:39:01,269 --> 00:39:03,750
fakes him out, and then Michael and Aaron

1047
00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:05,910
start fighting because Aaron comes up from behind.

1048
00:39:05,910 --> 00:39:06,410
Yeah.

1049
00:39:06,789 --> 00:39:08,010
And the choreography

1050
00:39:08,630 --> 00:39:09,130
that,

1051
00:39:09,804 --> 00:39:11,724
hasn't been mentioned a lot up to this

1052
00:39:11,724 --> 00:39:12,224
point

1053
00:39:13,085 --> 00:39:14,065
is really nice.

1054
00:39:14,445 --> 00:39:14,945
Yeah.

1055
00:39:15,804 --> 00:39:17,724
There is a lot of effort that goes

1056
00:39:17,724 --> 00:39:20,704
into the choreography and the camera movements

1057
00:39:21,005 --> 00:39:23,965
to marry up to it. Mhmm. And it

1058
00:39:23,965 --> 00:39:24,465
is

1059
00:39:25,170 --> 00:39:25,670
excellent.

1060
00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:26,550
Yes.

1061
00:39:27,409 --> 00:39:28,150
Very satisfying.

1062
00:39:28,530 --> 00:39:29,030
Yes.

1063
00:39:30,130 --> 00:39:32,309
The fight ends with Aaron cutting his jugular

1064
00:39:32,449 --> 00:39:32,949
open

1065
00:39:33,409 --> 00:39:35,510
and pushing a locker on top of him.

1066
00:39:36,050 --> 00:39:36,949
As yeah.

1067
00:39:37,405 --> 00:39:38,785
Final touch. Yeah.

1068
00:39:39,805 --> 00:39:41,724
And while the girls are escaping, they hear

1069
00:39:41,724 --> 00:39:44,125
the screams of, like, some other people being

1070
00:39:44,125 --> 00:39:44,625
held.

1071
00:39:46,204 --> 00:39:48,045
Oh, yeah. In this, like, under so this

1072
00:39:48,045 --> 00:39:50,650
is all taking place in, like The basement?

1073
00:39:50,789 --> 00:39:53,030
It's a big basement. It's it's it's Very

1074
00:39:53,030 --> 00:39:54,789
large. It's like a compound kind of It's

1075
00:39:54,789 --> 00:39:57,430
like an underground compound that they built for

1076
00:39:57,430 --> 00:40:00,390
their stuff over time, I'm imagining. Right. Because

1077
00:40:00,390 --> 00:40:01,930
it's not like It's bunkery.

1078
00:40:02,309 --> 00:40:04,390
Yeah. We couldn't pull it off here. No.

1079
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:06,695
We don't have enough basement. No.

1080
00:40:07,315 --> 00:40:10,595
So We can't operate a, you know, blood

1081
00:40:10,595 --> 00:40:11,095
harvesting

1082
00:40:12,035 --> 00:40:12,535
organization.

1083
00:40:12,994 --> 00:40:15,175
It's the whole fucking point of moving. Anyway,

1084
00:40:17,315 --> 00:40:18,914
so Aaron runs off to go find out

1085
00:40:18,914 --> 00:40:21,095
who these people are. Outside,

1086
00:40:22,010 --> 00:40:24,809
mom tells dad that something is not right.

1087
00:40:24,809 --> 00:40:26,109
Go check on the boys.

1088
00:40:26,809 --> 00:40:28,730
Then we see a bunch of people in

1089
00:40:28,730 --> 00:40:31,869
the distance running through the woods. Mhmm. Right?

1090
00:40:32,089 --> 00:40:32,589
And

1091
00:40:33,369 --> 00:40:34,349
this is beautiful

1092
00:40:35,405 --> 00:40:38,045
because it's a quick shot of our favorite

1093
00:40:38,045 --> 00:40:39,025
bald Scotsman,

1094
00:40:39,885 --> 00:40:40,784
Liam Mathieson.

1095
00:40:41,885 --> 00:40:43,824
And the first time we saw it,

1096
00:40:44,284 --> 00:40:45,025
we're like,

1097
00:40:45,405 --> 00:40:45,905
Liam.

1098
00:40:46,204 --> 00:40:46,704
Liam.

1099
00:40:47,269 --> 00:40:48,409
Wait. Was that Liam?

1100
00:40:48,869 --> 00:40:50,250
So we went back like, Liam.

1101
00:40:52,150 --> 00:40:54,569
Always a treat. He's, like, everywhere. Mhmm.

1102
00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:58,409
Margaret then tells the hunter, mister Wilson,

1103
00:40:59,269 --> 00:40:59,769
to,

1104
00:41:00,389 --> 00:41:02,969
to feel free to shoot them all.

1105
00:41:03,844 --> 00:41:06,164
It's a bonus. Yeah. She acts like they

1106
00:41:06,164 --> 00:41:08,565
did this all for his benefit, but she's,

1107
00:41:08,565 --> 00:41:11,764
like, pissed. Yeah. She's furious. And he's just

1108
00:41:11,764 --> 00:41:12,264
like,

1109
00:41:13,045 --> 00:41:14,585
I'm on it. It's like, alright.

1110
00:41:14,885 --> 00:41:17,045
Yep. Some masked men start with him and

1111
00:41:17,045 --> 00:41:18,505
he off he goes.

1112
00:41:19,179 --> 00:41:21,579
And then Margaret turns around and rips into

1113
00:41:21,579 --> 00:41:22,079
mom.

1114
00:41:22,380 --> 00:41:24,320
Mhmm. You can tell that yeah.

1115
00:41:24,699 --> 00:41:25,199
Margaret

1116
00:41:25,739 --> 00:41:26,960
is a go getter.

1117
00:41:27,420 --> 00:41:29,519
She is a type a fucking psycho.

1118
00:41:31,275 --> 00:41:32,414
She's yeah.

1119
00:41:33,594 --> 00:41:35,214
She she's all power.

1120
00:41:36,795 --> 00:41:38,315
So then we get to dad. He goes

1121
00:41:38,315 --> 00:41:40,734
down below, finds, Michael's body.

1122
00:41:41,194 --> 00:41:41,694
Mhmm.

1123
00:41:42,394 --> 00:41:44,554
Adam then wakes up, tells dad that Aaron

1124
00:41:44,554 --> 00:41:45,295
isn't human.

1125
00:41:47,489 --> 00:41:49,110
Dad makes him drink some blood,

1126
00:41:49,410 --> 00:41:49,910
Sarah's.

1127
00:41:51,969 --> 00:41:52,469
Upstairs,

1128
00:41:56,210 --> 00:41:58,390
Margaret and mom have come into the house.

1129
00:41:58,775 --> 00:42:01,195
Margaret goes up and belts mom. Mhmm.

1130
00:42:02,135 --> 00:42:03,894
Dad comes up to tell them Michael is

1131
00:42:03,894 --> 00:42:06,074
dead and that the girls are free.

1132
00:42:07,655 --> 00:42:09,914
Margaret loses her fucking mind.

1133
00:42:10,454 --> 00:42:12,155
And you could see she is just,

1134
00:42:13,175 --> 00:42:14,670
you know, this fucking family.

1135
00:42:16,109 --> 00:42:16,609
Yes.

1136
00:42:18,190 --> 00:42:19,089
Aaron and Sarah

1137
00:42:19,389 --> 00:42:21,489
have made it to the yard worker's house.

1138
00:42:21,949 --> 00:42:23,549
So we're we're getting towards the edge of

1139
00:42:23,549 --> 00:42:24,210
the property.

1140
00:42:26,765 --> 00:42:29,085
He's there. Aaron knocks him out. Then we

1141
00:42:29,085 --> 00:42:30,684
cut a little bit later. He's tied to

1142
00:42:30,684 --> 00:42:31,344
a chair.

1143
00:42:32,045 --> 00:42:33,885
He tells them they have no idea who

1144
00:42:33,885 --> 00:42:36,525
they're fucking with, and Aaron tells him about

1145
00:42:36,525 --> 00:42:37,025
Michael

1146
00:42:37,405 --> 00:42:39,405
and then says they haven't met or he

1147
00:42:39,405 --> 00:42:42,385
says they haven't met Margaret yet. Mhmm. And

1148
00:42:43,859 --> 00:42:46,119
I love that line. It's perfect

1149
00:42:46,739 --> 00:42:47,239
because

1150
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:49,639
she has been introduced to us

1151
00:42:50,579 --> 00:42:51,400
just enough

1152
00:42:51,940 --> 00:42:54,099
to make that line a 100% true. This

1153
00:42:54,099 --> 00:42:57,244
isn't bravado. This isn't desperation. Right. Like,

1154
00:42:57,864 --> 00:42:59,304
you you don't know what you're fucking up

1155
00:42:59,304 --> 00:42:59,804
against.

1156
00:43:00,425 --> 00:43:02,744
Well, Aaron, as well, she's like, they've never

1157
00:43:02,744 --> 00:43:03,484
met me.

1158
00:43:04,664 --> 00:43:05,164
Yeah.

1159
00:43:06,824 --> 00:43:08,525
She holds a knife to his throat.

1160
00:43:08,984 --> 00:43:09,804
Our our,

1161
00:43:11,099 --> 00:43:12,619
we hear Adam over the walkie talkie. She

1162
00:43:12,619 --> 00:43:14,619
has a walkie talkie, puts a knife to

1163
00:43:14,619 --> 00:43:15,660
the yard guy's throat

1164
00:43:16,059 --> 00:43:17,039
Mhmm. And,

1165
00:43:18,780 --> 00:43:19,680
says, answer.

1166
00:43:21,500 --> 00:43:23,660
If you don't fuck around, you're gonna get

1167
00:43:23,660 --> 00:43:24,160
it.

1168
00:43:26,934 --> 00:43:29,094
He answers. Adam says he's needed as a

1169
00:43:29,094 --> 00:43:29,594
playground.

1170
00:43:30,295 --> 00:43:31,994
Aaron threatens him.

1171
00:43:32,375 --> 00:43:33,675
I'm not gonna say threat,

1172
00:43:34,215 --> 00:43:36,934
but he pisses his his he pisses himself

1173
00:43:36,934 --> 00:43:38,934
in the chair. Big old puddle of piss

1174
00:43:38,934 --> 00:43:40,739
hit in the floor, and then she knocks

1175
00:43:40,739 --> 00:43:41,480
him out.

1176
00:43:43,380 --> 00:43:44,920
Sarah and Aaron leave.

1177
00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:46,920
Aaron walks around

1178
00:43:47,219 --> 00:43:47,719
and,

1179
00:43:50,179 --> 00:43:52,679
starts walking around the outside. Mhmm.

1180
00:43:53,085 --> 00:43:54,864
And Margaret jumps out.

1181
00:43:57,565 --> 00:44:00,844
And then Adam's behind her with Sarah. He's

1182
00:44:00,844 --> 00:44:01,984
got her captive.

1183
00:44:03,244 --> 00:44:04,860
Margaret knocks Aaron out.

1184
00:44:05,820 --> 00:44:07,260
And what can you do? Right? I mean,

1185
00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:09,200
pretty quickly. Yeah. Yeah.

1186
00:44:09,820 --> 00:44:11,440
So later, the back in the basement,

1187
00:44:11,980 --> 00:44:15,019
family is looking at Erin's information on a

1188
00:44:15,019 --> 00:44:17,280
laptop. Somebody did some deep dive digging.

1189
00:44:17,739 --> 00:44:19,039
So here's her story.

1190
00:44:19,605 --> 00:44:22,565
Erin was abducted at 4 and subjected to

1191
00:44:22,565 --> 00:44:24,744
the most heinous, horrible shit

1192
00:44:25,364 --> 00:44:26,905
for 15 years.

1193
00:44:28,244 --> 00:44:30,505
Dad's not really concerned about that.

1194
00:44:31,859 --> 00:44:33,719
Yeah. Dad is more concerned

1195
00:44:34,099 --> 00:44:36,199
about the circumstances of her escape.

1196
00:44:37,299 --> 00:44:39,380
And, of course, you know, everyone's looking at

1197
00:44:39,380 --> 00:44:41,219
him like, what are you talking about? And

1198
00:44:41,219 --> 00:44:43,239
then he, you know, brings up a picture.

1199
00:44:44,474 --> 00:44:44,974
And

1200
00:44:46,155 --> 00:44:47,994
These are pretty cool pictures. I'm yeah. I'm

1201
00:44:47,994 --> 00:44:48,735
gonna leave

1202
00:44:49,195 --> 00:44:51,275
it. Not gonna describe it. You guys gotta

1203
00:44:51,275 --> 00:44:53,375
see it. You'll enjoy it. Wild.

1204
00:44:53,994 --> 00:44:55,535
You see why dad's concerned.

1205
00:44:55,835 --> 00:44:58,235
Yeah. Because all the shit in the pictures

1206
00:44:58,235 --> 00:44:58,735
happened

1207
00:44:59,329 --> 00:44:59,989
by her.

1208
00:45:00,769 --> 00:45:01,269
Right.

1209
00:45:01,570 --> 00:45:02,869
She did these

1210
00:45:03,329 --> 00:45:03,829
things.

1211
00:45:06,210 --> 00:45:06,710
So

1212
00:45:07,010 --> 00:45:09,329
he tells Margaret and Adam, they need to

1213
00:45:09,329 --> 00:45:09,909
be careful.

1214
00:45:12,864 --> 00:45:15,105
At this point, to say Erin has anger

1215
00:45:15,105 --> 00:45:16,885
issues is a huge understatement.

1216
00:45:19,585 --> 00:45:21,744
Then we see Erin on a table. They've

1217
00:45:21,744 --> 00:45:23,045
drained some of her blood,

1218
00:45:23,519 --> 00:45:25,360
and they go on about her adrenaline is

1219
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:26,659
just off the charts.

1220
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:28,260
Right. Right?

1221
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:30,500
And,

1222
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:32,739
later,

1223
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,059
Erin wakes up again,

1224
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:38,099
tied to a chair again.

1225
00:45:39,295 --> 00:45:41,554
Sarah is behind her. They're back to back.

1226
00:45:42,414 --> 00:45:45,054
Outside, Margaret is with mister Wilson. He's,

1227
00:45:46,574 --> 00:45:48,675
she's selling him on on Aaron's blood.

1228
00:45:49,054 --> 00:45:52,059
Margaret says they'll be hunting Aaron, and she

1229
00:45:52,059 --> 00:45:54,619
wants her to suffer. Mister Wilson is fully

1230
00:45:54,619 --> 00:45:56,619
unborn. Can I back up just a second?

1231
00:45:56,619 --> 00:45:57,519
Back up a second.

1232
00:45:59,420 --> 00:46:01,500
When they're talking to the the white coat

1233
00:46:01,500 --> 00:46:02,880
guy about Aaron's adrenaline

1234
00:46:03,179 --> 00:46:03,679
levels,

1235
00:46:04,219 --> 00:46:06,780
Margaret goes to drink Aaron's blood to try

1236
00:46:06,780 --> 00:46:07,280
it,

1237
00:46:07,635 --> 00:46:09,074
but the guy in the white coat says,

1238
00:46:09,074 --> 00:46:10,135
do not do that.

1239
00:46:10,914 --> 00:46:12,375
It will need to be diluted.

1240
00:46:13,394 --> 00:46:15,175
Yeah. It'll kill you. Yeah.

1241
00:46:15,635 --> 00:46:17,414
You have a heart attack. Yeah.

1242
00:46:18,835 --> 00:46:19,335
Excellent.

1243
00:46:19,795 --> 00:46:20,614
Go on.

1244
00:46:20,989 --> 00:46:22,529
Why, thank you.

1245
00:46:22,829 --> 00:46:24,449
No. Good point. Good point.

1246
00:46:25,549 --> 00:46:26,049
See.

1247
00:46:26,989 --> 00:46:29,789
Wilson's on board. He's not too keen on

1248
00:46:29,789 --> 00:46:32,449
Sarah, though. Says she looks kinda damaged.

1249
00:46:35,585 --> 00:46:36,644
You know, standards.

1250
00:46:37,025 --> 00:46:37,525
Right?

1251
00:46:37,984 --> 00:46:39,844
Margaret says if he kills the girls,

1252
00:46:40,304 --> 00:46:41,924
his fee is forgiven.

1253
00:46:42,545 --> 00:46:45,045
Mhmm. If she kills the girls first,

1254
00:46:45,904 --> 00:46:47,605
he hands over a blank check.

1255
00:46:48,449 --> 00:46:49,969
She cuts Aaron and Sarah free and sends

1256
00:46:49,969 --> 00:46:50,949
them into the woods,

1257
00:46:51,250 --> 00:46:51,750
and,

1258
00:46:52,289 --> 00:46:53,109
mister Wilson

1259
00:46:53,969 --> 00:46:55,030
is all in.

1260
00:46:57,090 --> 00:46:58,309
So they're running.

1261
00:46:59,809 --> 00:47:00,309
Him.

1262
00:47:02,204 --> 00:47:04,284
Well, everybody's out there. It's not just him.

1263
00:47:04,284 --> 00:47:05,824
It's dad and Adam.

1264
00:47:07,724 --> 00:47:10,125
They find some of the runners first who

1265
00:47:10,125 --> 00:47:11,184
are trying to hide.

1266
00:47:11,804 --> 00:47:14,369
Mister Wilson takes one down. Dad, with a

1267
00:47:14,369 --> 00:47:16,289
bow, takes down another, which I thought was

1268
00:47:16,289 --> 00:47:18,130
kinda nice, you know. I like the bow.

1269
00:47:18,130 --> 00:47:20,230
Yeah. You know, he's a traditionalist, I guess.

1270
00:47:20,369 --> 00:47:21,989
Yeah. You know? Classical.

1271
00:47:22,690 --> 00:47:25,650
And then mister Wilson sights Aaron and starts

1272
00:47:25,650 --> 00:47:27,489
to shoot at her. She hides behind some

1273
00:47:27,489 --> 00:47:27,989
barrels.

1274
00:47:28,614 --> 00:47:30,454
He's out of ammo, so he switches to

1275
00:47:30,454 --> 00:47:31,035
a handgun

1276
00:47:31,494 --> 00:47:31,994
and,

1277
00:47:32,454 --> 00:47:33,114
you know,

1278
00:47:34,375 --> 00:47:36,075
Aaron is walking towards him

1279
00:47:36,614 --> 00:47:37,114
and

1280
00:47:37,655 --> 00:47:38,875
puts the handgun away,

1281
00:47:39,494 --> 00:47:40,875
wants to do it by hand.

1282
00:47:41,260 --> 00:47:41,760
Yeah.

1283
00:47:42,140 --> 00:47:43,599
Yeah. They fight.

1284
00:47:45,500 --> 00:47:46,400
The choreography,

1285
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:48,079
again, is really good.

1286
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:50,239
However, mister Wilson

1287
00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:51,440
isn't

1288
00:47:52,619 --> 00:47:53,680
MMA material.

1289
00:47:55,675 --> 00:47:57,114
He has a lot of snarky shit to

1290
00:47:57,114 --> 00:47:58,875
say. Oh, he's a hunter. He's not a

1291
00:47:58,875 --> 00:48:00,635
wrestler. Yeah. He's he he well, he's, you

1292
00:48:00,635 --> 00:48:02,714
know, he's the evil Hasselhoff

1293
00:48:03,114 --> 00:48:05,054
Yeah. Twin. He's he's madly.

1294
00:48:05,675 --> 00:48:07,835
But she's more manly because she whooped his

1295
00:48:07,835 --> 00:48:10,094
ass and ends up breaking his neck. Mhmm.

1296
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,880
Adam, meanwhile, is cleaning up a lot of

1297
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:14,940
the running victims.

1298
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:15,900
Yeah.

1299
00:48:16,599 --> 00:48:17,099
And,

1300
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:19,579
dad starts stalking Sarah.

1301
00:48:21,239 --> 00:48:23,079
This is there's, like, a lot of jumping

1302
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:23,980
around here.

1303
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:24,885
Mhmm.

1304
00:48:25,445 --> 00:48:25,945
Aaron

1305
00:48:26,485 --> 00:48:29,045
starts taking out some masked people, and there's

1306
00:48:29,045 --> 00:48:31,125
there's quite a few masked people running around

1307
00:48:31,125 --> 00:48:32,264
here. Yes.

1308
00:48:34,644 --> 00:48:37,045
Dad is distracted by the gunfire of this

1309
00:48:37,284 --> 00:48:38,744
you know, all that going on.

1310
00:48:39,179 --> 00:48:42,059
And Sarah takes advantage of a moment where

1311
00:48:42,059 --> 00:48:44,300
he's distracted to stab him with an arrow

1312
00:48:44,300 --> 00:48:46,480
that she picked up from Bonnie. Yes.

1313
00:48:49,260 --> 00:48:51,119
Adam comes and finds dad

1314
00:48:51,795 --> 00:48:54,034
and is shaken by this turn of events

1315
00:48:54,514 --> 00:48:56,694
Yes. And then finds Sarah.

1316
00:48:57,234 --> 00:48:59,474
And when he goes to shoot her, his

1317
00:48:59,474 --> 00:49:00,534
clip is empty.

1318
00:49:01,875 --> 00:49:03,795
So he starts just beating her, and he's,

1319
00:49:03,795 --> 00:49:06,135
like, really taking his time about it

1320
00:49:06,449 --> 00:49:08,050
long enough for Aaron to see and come

1321
00:49:08,050 --> 00:49:11,190
to her rescue. Yeah. To hear her. Yeah.

1322
00:49:12,849 --> 00:49:14,389
So she and Adam fight,

1323
00:49:14,849 --> 00:49:15,349
and

1324
00:49:16,130 --> 00:49:17,730
I'm not gonna give away how that fight

1325
00:49:17,730 --> 00:49:19,809
ends, but she she kills Adam. But it's

1326
00:49:19,809 --> 00:49:21,489
really it's cool enough that you should wait

1327
00:49:21,489 --> 00:49:23,065
and see it. Yeah. You haven't seen it

1328
00:49:23,065 --> 00:49:24,045
already. Absolutely.

1329
00:49:26,985 --> 00:49:28,204
Margaret interrupts

1330
00:49:28,824 --> 00:49:30,525
Aaron's victorious moment

1331
00:49:31,545 --> 00:49:32,505
by killing Sarah

1332
00:49:33,864 --> 00:49:35,324
Yeah. Which is unfortunate.

1333
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:37,440
Well, in kind of a bitch way of

1334
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,039
doing it too. I've A little bit. Yeah.

1335
00:49:39,039 --> 00:49:40,880
I thought, you know I mean, I you're

1336
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:41,699
like traditionalists.

1337
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:42,820
You're hunters.

1338
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:45,619
You know, that's just petty. I I

1339
00:49:46,159 --> 00:49:47,679
I I thought it the first time, and

1340
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:49,519
I thought it again. We watched it this

1341
00:49:49,519 --> 00:49:50,019
time.

1342
00:49:51,875 --> 00:49:54,594
I expected better from you. It's petty. Yeah.

1343
00:49:54,594 --> 00:49:56,755
And that was kinda petty. You're this, like

1344
00:49:56,914 --> 00:49:59,234
It's below you. Hard brass bitch. It's just

1345
00:49:59,234 --> 00:49:59,394
like

1346
00:50:00,275 --> 00:50:02,214
you know, I'm sitting here watching.

1347
00:50:02,594 --> 00:50:04,214
I'm waiting for more Margaret.

1348
00:50:04,550 --> 00:50:06,650
Yeah. Right? Once I got a taste of

1349
00:50:07,269 --> 00:50:10,070
holy shit, you know, Tweedle Dee and Tweedle

1350
00:50:10,070 --> 00:50:12,170
Dum and, you know,

1351
00:50:12,469 --> 00:50:13,130
the mother

1352
00:50:13,989 --> 00:50:16,389
with the looks. Intriguing as she was, I

1353
00:50:16,389 --> 00:50:18,309
wanted more Margaret. Yeah. In time, she came

1354
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:20,175
on. I'm like, yeah. Let's see it. See,

1355
00:50:20,175 --> 00:50:20,835
I was

1356
00:50:21,135 --> 00:50:22,974
I will just say I'm not saying this

1357
00:50:22,974 --> 00:50:25,235
is a thing with the writing or but

1358
00:50:25,295 --> 00:50:26,195
as an individual,

1359
00:50:26,735 --> 00:50:29,875
I'm disappointed in Margaret for taking such a

1360
00:50:30,414 --> 00:50:30,914
fucking

1361
00:50:32,094 --> 00:50:33,074
pussy way

1362
00:50:33,500 --> 00:50:35,920
out of this situation. I expected more.

1363
00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:38,799
Shame on you, Margaret. Yeah.

1364
00:50:39,980 --> 00:50:42,639
And so the 2 circle and start fighting.

1365
00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:44,699
And this fight is, like, the crown of

1366
00:50:44,699 --> 00:50:45,359
the choreography

1367
00:50:45,900 --> 00:50:46,719
of the film,

1368
00:50:47,244 --> 00:50:50,204
and super fun to watch. Mhmm. And at

1369
00:50:50,204 --> 00:50:51,025
one point,

1370
00:50:52,284 --> 00:50:54,844
Margaret kinda forgets herself, and she takes a

1371
00:50:54,844 --> 00:50:55,984
bite out of Aaron.

1372
00:50:56,364 --> 00:50:57,184
Oh, yeah.

1373
00:50:58,364 --> 00:50:59,744
And so she feels

1374
00:51:00,204 --> 00:51:00,704
amazing.

1375
00:51:03,489 --> 00:51:06,069
But we were forewarned about this. Mhmm.

1376
00:51:07,889 --> 00:51:08,389
So

1377
00:51:09,650 --> 00:51:12,449
she's got the power running through her. Very

1378
00:51:12,449 --> 00:51:15,089
briefly, she's, you know, kicking ass a little

1379
00:51:15,089 --> 00:51:15,589
bit.

1380
00:51:16,055 --> 00:51:17,894
And after a little bit, she starts clutching

1381
00:51:17,894 --> 00:51:18,795
at her heart.

1382
00:51:19,095 --> 00:51:19,595
Yeah.

1383
00:51:20,614 --> 00:51:21,835
And Erin gives

1384
00:51:22,454 --> 00:51:24,155
a little speech about pain.

1385
00:51:28,389 --> 00:51:30,070
And she says, you think you know pain?

1386
00:51:30,070 --> 00:51:32,010
I've lived with it my whole life.

1387
00:51:33,590 --> 00:51:36,250
And Margaret dies with a pretty amazing

1388
00:51:36,710 --> 00:51:37,769
blood sploosh.

1389
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:38,809
Yeah.

1390
00:51:39,110 --> 00:51:40,889
That's pretty awesome. Yeah.

1391
00:51:42,864 --> 00:51:45,284
Aaron grabs a gun, returns to the house.

1392
00:51:45,984 --> 00:51:48,464
Mom is there with some glasses for some

1393
00:51:48,464 --> 00:51:50,545
reason. I'm not sure why. I think she

1394
00:51:50,545 --> 00:51:52,545
was expecting to, you know, have everyone come

1395
00:51:52,545 --> 00:51:54,885
back victorious and everyone have a little drink.

1396
00:51:54,944 --> 00:51:55,684
Oh, sure.

1397
00:51:56,980 --> 00:51:59,140
Aaron kills her without a whole lot of

1398
00:51:59,140 --> 00:51:59,640
preamble.

1399
00:52:00,180 --> 00:52:00,680
Nope.

1400
00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:06,019
And at this point, I'm like, well, she's

1401
00:52:06,019 --> 00:52:07,780
killed everyone there now, so this is her

1402
00:52:07,780 --> 00:52:09,079
house now. Right?

1403
00:52:09,394 --> 00:52:11,394
I'm pretty sure that's how it works. I

1404
00:52:11,394 --> 00:52:13,795
mean, I think it should. I Right? If

1405
00:52:13,795 --> 00:52:14,914
I had to go through all that and

1406
00:52:14,914 --> 00:52:16,275
I ended up wiping them all out, she'd

1407
00:52:16,275 --> 00:52:17,714
tell me, oh, that house is fine. Try

1408
00:52:17,714 --> 00:52:19,394
and take it from me. Yeah. They're all

1409
00:52:19,394 --> 00:52:21,474
dead. You. And the gay guy said there's

1410
00:52:21,474 --> 00:52:23,335
nothing for a 100 miles. So, like,

1411
00:52:23,809 --> 00:52:25,969
who's gonna come and stop her? Yeah. Except,

1412
00:52:25,969 --> 00:52:28,449
you know, well, tax time. Someone's gonna have

1413
00:52:28,449 --> 00:52:28,949
to

1414
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:29,909
do something.

1415
00:52:30,210 --> 00:52:31,909
Yeah. I mean, anyway

1416
00:52:33,730 --> 00:52:35,269
so she finds a car

1417
00:52:35,570 --> 00:52:36,710
and drives off.

1418
00:52:37,964 --> 00:52:39,505
Gate guy is on the road,

1419
00:52:42,525 --> 00:52:45,264
and he oh, he thinks he's got her.

1420
00:52:45,404 --> 00:52:45,904
Yeah.

1421
00:52:47,724 --> 00:52:49,484
Dead to rights. He's like, oh, on the

1422
00:52:49,484 --> 00:52:51,105
radio. I've got her, guys.

1423
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,460
Hold on, Aaron. Just stay there.

1424
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:55,840
I've got her. What do you want me

1425
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:58,260
to do? And there's no answer. Nope. Silence.

1426
00:52:58,720 --> 00:52:59,220
Mhmm.

1427
00:53:01,519 --> 00:53:03,360
She did tell him she would kill him

1428
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,300
if she saw him again. Yes.

1429
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:06,099
And

1430
00:53:06,505 --> 00:53:08,364
she does kill him. She does.

1431
00:53:09,385 --> 00:53:10,364
End of film.

1432
00:53:11,144 --> 00:53:12,944
Let's get into this. Let's get into it.

1433
00:53:13,065 --> 00:53:13,724
Stuff out.

1434
00:53:14,105 --> 00:53:15,965
So I wanna start out by saying,

1435
00:53:17,385 --> 00:53:19,565
David has always wanted to do

1436
00:53:19,869 --> 00:53:20,690
an action,

1437
00:53:21,070 --> 00:53:22,369
thriller, action horror.

1438
00:53:23,389 --> 00:53:25,550
Yes. And that's why we have I Am

1439
00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:27,250
Rage, and it rocks.

1440
00:53:27,550 --> 00:53:28,210
It does.

1441
00:53:28,510 --> 00:53:28,589
It

1442
00:53:30,190 --> 00:53:31,969
when he explained to us what

1443
00:53:32,914 --> 00:53:34,434
it was before he sent it to us,

1444
00:53:34,675 --> 00:53:35,815
we were just so happy.

1445
00:53:36,434 --> 00:53:38,594
Oh, I'm so happy for him. Yeah. He

1446
00:53:38,594 --> 00:53:41,815
was a big fan of action movies. Yeah.

1447
00:53:42,034 --> 00:53:44,534
You know, I like Jean Claude Van Damme,

1448
00:53:45,460 --> 00:53:47,480
you know, the the Bruce Lee movies,

1449
00:53:47,780 --> 00:53:49,000
the, you know

1450
00:53:49,780 --> 00:53:50,280
Just

1451
00:53:51,059 --> 00:53:53,539
fist to face Oh, yeah. Kind of thing.

1452
00:53:53,539 --> 00:53:54,360
Yeah. So,

1453
00:53:55,539 --> 00:53:56,360
yeah. This

1454
00:53:56,820 --> 00:53:59,300
it hits all the marks. Mhmm. Couple of

1455
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:01,000
things I wanna point out quick.

1456
00:54:01,755 --> 00:54:03,614
So, like, the drive scene to the house,

1457
00:54:04,315 --> 00:54:05,135
couple other

1458
00:54:05,674 --> 00:54:07,214
shots of, like, the woods

1459
00:54:07,674 --> 00:54:08,414
and stuff.

1460
00:54:09,114 --> 00:54:10,574
David has a signature

1461
00:54:11,275 --> 00:54:11,775
style.

1462
00:54:12,795 --> 00:54:14,335
His overhead shots,

1463
00:54:14,635 --> 00:54:15,694
the drone shots

1464
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:16,980
are magnificent.

1465
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:18,500
They're perfect.

1466
00:54:19,519 --> 00:54:21,300
They you can pick them out.

1467
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,619
If you if you showed me a dozen,

1468
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:24,180
then

1469
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,059
that's David's. Oh, yeah. You know?

1470
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:29,700
He also has

1471
00:54:30,625 --> 00:54:31,925
a very consistent

1472
00:54:32,625 --> 00:54:33,125
style

1473
00:54:33,585 --> 00:54:34,325
of cinematography.

1474
00:54:36,785 --> 00:54:38,785
A lot of that is here, but because

1475
00:54:38,785 --> 00:54:40,005
this is a different kind

1476
00:54:40,305 --> 00:54:40,965
of movie,

1477
00:54:43,039 --> 00:54:43,780
he's he's

1478
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:45,139
diverged

1479
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:47,679
from that. Because when you have action, you

1480
00:54:47,679 --> 00:54:48,739
have to shoot it differently

1481
00:54:49,119 --> 00:54:52,079
Yes. Than just, you know, someone creeping and

1482
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,139
then someone killing

1483
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:56,320
and or someone running and screaming. Mhmm. You

1484
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:57,380
know? But

1485
00:55:00,744 --> 00:55:02,664
the difference between this and then the the

1486
00:55:02,664 --> 00:55:03,965
rough cut that we saw

1487
00:55:04,744 --> 00:55:06,925
is very little. There's a few things

1488
00:55:07,385 --> 00:55:09,965
that were you know? It's all minor finishing

1489
00:55:10,025 --> 00:55:12,605
touchy kind of stuff. Right.

1490
00:55:15,199 --> 00:55:15,699
Anyway,

1491
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:17,219
I don't want

1492
00:55:17,679 --> 00:55:19,300
I don't wanna speak out of turn.

1493
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,199
There's a few things that were cut out

1494
00:55:21,199 --> 00:55:22,639
that, you know, could go into a blooper

1495
00:55:22,639 --> 00:55:23,139
reel.

1496
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:25,940
And, but

1497
00:55:26,775 --> 00:55:28,775
it's cool having seen that and then seeing

1498
00:55:28,775 --> 00:55:30,554
the finished product, how seamless.

1499
00:55:31,174 --> 00:55:33,574
Right? Oh, yeah. It just and and a

1500
00:55:33,574 --> 00:55:34,534
lot of that has to do with the

1501
00:55:34,534 --> 00:55:35,974
way he shoots. So I guess my big

1502
00:55:35,974 --> 00:55:38,234
takeaway from this is look at the cinematography.

1503
00:55:39,410 --> 00:55:41,329
See some of David's other movies. See the,

1504
00:55:41,329 --> 00:55:43,190
you know, the straight horror, Redwood Massacre.

1505
00:55:43,650 --> 00:55:45,349
Even go back to Attack of the Herbals.

1506
00:55:45,890 --> 00:55:47,969
Right? And we when we covered that, and

1507
00:55:47,969 --> 00:55:50,610
David talked freely about it. Liam talked freely

1508
00:55:50,610 --> 00:55:53,010
about it. Paul talked freely. Everyone talked freely

1509
00:55:53,010 --> 00:55:54,070
about it. Yeah.

1510
00:55:54,855 --> 00:55:57,574
What a clusterfuck of a production that was

1511
00:55:57,574 --> 00:55:59,114
until Lorraine stepped in,

1512
00:55:59,414 --> 00:56:01,494
who was his then girlfriend, later became his

1513
00:56:01,494 --> 00:56:03,894
wife, and kinda got their shit together for

1514
00:56:03,894 --> 00:56:04,394
them.

1515
00:56:04,775 --> 00:56:05,275
Yeah.

1516
00:56:05,815 --> 00:56:07,034
But even with that,

1517
00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:09,739
his eye and his way of doing things

1518
00:56:09,739 --> 00:56:11,519
and capturing what he wants

1519
00:56:11,900 --> 00:56:12,639
is magnificent.

1520
00:56:13,739 --> 00:56:14,239
Magnificent.

1521
00:56:14,539 --> 00:56:15,679
I mean, we just can't,

1522
00:56:16,380 --> 00:56:17,039
you know,

1523
00:56:17,659 --> 00:56:19,579
go on enough about that. So that's that's

1524
00:56:19,579 --> 00:56:21,039
my big takeaway is

1525
00:56:21,894 --> 00:56:25,735
observe, take notes, watch a particular thing over

1526
00:56:25,735 --> 00:56:28,454
and over and over. Rewind it. You know,

1527
00:56:28,454 --> 00:56:30,555
watch that 2 minutes or whatever.

1528
00:56:32,535 --> 00:56:34,474
Even with action, there's movement

1529
00:56:35,015 --> 00:56:35,835
lot of movement

1530
00:56:36,329 --> 00:56:37,070
of the characters.

1531
00:56:38,170 --> 00:56:40,809
There is. There's a there's a lot of

1532
00:56:40,809 --> 00:56:42,170
points in my notes, and I know you

1533
00:56:42,170 --> 00:56:43,550
like to wait till after we've

1534
00:56:44,090 --> 00:56:45,690
gone through the beats of the movie to

1535
00:56:45,690 --> 00:56:48,410
discuss it. But there is a lot, like,

1536
00:56:48,410 --> 00:56:50,804
several parts in my notes where I'm like,

1537
00:56:50,804 --> 00:56:53,605
the fluidity of the camera movement is really

1538
00:56:53,605 --> 00:56:56,085
doing it for me. Oh, same with mine,

1539
00:56:56,085 --> 00:56:57,764
the drone shots, the this and that, and

1540
00:56:57,764 --> 00:57:00,505
how this looks very David even though

1541
00:57:01,045 --> 00:57:01,764
David has,

1542
00:57:02,324 --> 00:57:03,065
the talent

1543
00:57:04,489 --> 00:57:06,909
of giving us movement and motion

1544
00:57:08,170 --> 00:57:11,210
without doing, like, weird shots and crazy shit.

1545
00:57:11,210 --> 00:57:13,869
Well, it all feels very organic and natural.

1546
00:57:14,170 --> 00:57:16,510
Yes. And the faster movements

1547
00:57:16,809 --> 00:57:17,309
here

1548
00:57:17,945 --> 00:57:19,644
with actual movement

1549
00:57:20,505 --> 00:57:21,324
still feels

1550
00:57:22,264 --> 00:57:23,405
organic and natural.

1551
00:57:24,025 --> 00:57:26,664
Everywhere the camera moves, everywhere it goes, everywhere

1552
00:57:26,664 --> 00:57:28,664
it points to is where your eye wants

1553
00:57:28,664 --> 00:57:29,324
to go

1554
00:57:29,945 --> 00:57:30,445
naturally

1555
00:57:31,545 --> 00:57:32,045
for

1556
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:34,699
for the shot. Right.

1557
00:57:35,719 --> 00:57:37,900
And it's just really masterfully done.

1558
00:57:39,800 --> 00:57:40,300
The

1559
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:41,739
the actors,

1560
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:44,219
all magnificent.

1561
00:57:44,815 --> 00:57:45,554
Oh, yeah.

1562
00:57:45,934 --> 00:57:47,934
They all do a good job. Get up.

1563
00:57:47,934 --> 00:57:49,614
You know, I mean, in a film like

1564
00:57:49,614 --> 00:57:51,135
this, you're gonna have a couple of, like,

1565
00:57:51,135 --> 00:57:53,375
cheesy ish characters. Like, the hunter guy was

1566
00:57:53,375 --> 00:57:54,594
a little cheesy, but

1567
00:57:56,094 --> 00:57:58,735
he's having a blast. He's doing a great

1568
00:57:58,735 --> 00:58:00,275
job of it. Mhmm.

1569
00:58:00,650 --> 00:58:01,150
Right?

1570
00:58:03,050 --> 00:58:06,349
They they they brought it. Yeah. And

1571
00:58:06,809 --> 00:58:07,710
I I

1572
00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:10,110
you know, most of that

1573
00:58:10,489 --> 00:58:12,410
is the talent of the actor. We've gone

1574
00:58:12,410 --> 00:58:13,630
into that. Mhmm.

1575
00:58:14,065 --> 00:58:15,985
But even the most talented of actors can

1576
00:58:15,985 --> 00:58:17,744
fall flat on their face if their director

1577
00:58:17,744 --> 00:58:18,485
is shit.

1578
00:58:19,184 --> 00:58:19,684
And

1579
00:58:20,385 --> 00:58:23,025
David is well, like all the people we've

1580
00:58:23,025 --> 00:58:25,684
talked to. Right? All the people that we're

1581
00:58:25,824 --> 00:58:28,405
connected to, they're all just so fucking good.

1582
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:30,640
They are. They really are.

1583
00:58:32,780 --> 00:58:33,840
I I just

1584
00:58:34,220 --> 00:58:35,980
I love Liam so much. I love that

1585
00:58:35,980 --> 00:58:37,760
he finds his way into the movies.

1586
00:58:38,059 --> 00:58:39,019
He was in,

1587
00:58:39,340 --> 00:58:40,320
Redwood Massacre

1588
00:58:40,860 --> 00:58:41,360
2,

1589
00:58:41,735 --> 00:58:43,034
Redwood Massacre Annihilation.

1590
00:58:43,335 --> 00:58:43,835
Mhmm.

1591
00:58:44,534 --> 00:58:45,594
First, he was,

1592
00:58:46,775 --> 00:58:48,775
the subject of some photos they find on

1593
00:58:48,775 --> 00:58:49,835
a digital camera.

1594
00:58:50,215 --> 00:58:52,875
Right. Right? And then he was the voice

1595
00:58:53,414 --> 00:58:55,335
when they call out, you know, hey. Right.

1596
00:58:55,335 --> 00:58:56,315
You know,

1597
00:58:57,110 --> 00:58:57,929
kinda thing.

1598
00:58:59,590 --> 00:59:00,969
It it's just a wonderful

1599
00:59:01,750 --> 00:59:03,369
thing. And he's just so delightful.

1600
00:59:04,630 --> 00:59:06,650
Yeah. She's a lovely, lovely person.

1601
00:59:07,269 --> 00:59:10,344
But and his dedication to all this to,

1602
00:59:10,344 --> 00:59:12,105
you know, show up to just sprint through

1603
00:59:12,105 --> 00:59:12,765
the woods

1604
00:59:13,864 --> 00:59:14,844
as an escapee.

1605
00:59:16,025 --> 00:59:16,505
I mean

1606
00:59:17,545 --> 00:59:18,045
It's

1607
00:59:19,224 --> 00:59:21,305
you have to love it. Right? And we've

1608
00:59:21,305 --> 00:59:23,144
said that before. You have to love it.

1609
00:59:23,144 --> 00:59:23,644
Mhmm.

1610
00:59:24,130 --> 00:59:25,730
You have to love the art of filmmaking.

1611
00:59:25,730 --> 00:59:27,349
You have to love the art of storytelling.

1612
00:59:28,210 --> 00:59:30,949
You have to love the, you know, 10,

1613
00:59:31,010 --> 00:59:31,909
12 hour

1614
00:59:33,170 --> 00:59:33,650
days

1615
00:59:34,050 --> 00:59:36,609
Yes. Where you sit around and wait for

1616
00:59:36,609 --> 00:59:38,949
everything to be set up before you can

1617
00:59:39,174 --> 00:59:41,434
hop on and do your thing for

1618
00:59:41,894 --> 00:59:43,194
5 minutes, maybe?

1619
00:59:43,494 --> 00:59:46,934
Well yeah. Because it's independent film. There's also

1620
00:59:46,934 --> 00:59:49,654
a truncated shooting time. Mhmm. Especially, like, when

1621
00:59:49,654 --> 00:59:51,255
you're on a location like this, you've got

1622
00:59:51,739 --> 00:59:53,260
it was a very short period of time.

1623
00:59:53,260 --> 00:59:54,699
They had to knock a lot of stuff

1624
00:59:54,699 --> 00:59:55,199
out.

1625
00:59:55,579 --> 00:59:57,500
And the other thing about indie film is

1626
00:59:57,500 --> 00:59:59,500
Liam is doing a voice over. He is

1627
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,099
running through the woods. Mhmm. He is, you

1628
01:00:01,099 --> 01:00:02,400
know, get you know,

1629
01:00:03,420 --> 01:00:04,619
tell me what to do. We'll take some

1630
01:00:04,619 --> 01:00:07,359
pictures and, you know, that Right. That part.

1631
01:00:07,784 --> 01:00:10,204
Independent film, you're doing more than one thing.

1632
01:00:10,505 --> 01:00:12,344
Now David has reached a level where you

1633
01:00:12,344 --> 01:00:15,144
can see through the credits. Right? There's there's

1634
01:00:15,144 --> 01:00:15,724
a crew.

1635
01:00:16,824 --> 01:00:18,204
It's it's a very,

1636
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,579
you know, Attack of the Herbals

1637
01:00:22,199 --> 01:00:24,699
was funny and delightful and good.

1638
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:27,079
But you it was an indie film, and

1639
01:00:27,079 --> 01:00:29,000
you can still see the little points where

1640
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:31,660
everyone's doing different Everything. Yeah. Everything.

1641
01:00:32,585 --> 01:00:34,264
A little bit less. But David still does

1642
01:00:34,264 --> 01:00:36,904
color correction and editing. Oh, yeah. You know,

1643
01:00:36,904 --> 01:00:37,885
he is, like,

1644
01:00:38,424 --> 01:00:39,404
right on that.

1645
01:00:41,625 --> 01:00:43,164
It it it shows.

1646
01:00:44,025 --> 01:00:45,625
I mean, this is it's like a it's

1647
01:00:45,625 --> 01:00:46,605
it's his brand.

1648
01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:49,019
It is. You know, these these things are

1649
01:00:49,019 --> 01:00:51,420
his brand. The finished product is just so

1650
01:00:51,420 --> 01:00:52,640
much fun.

1651
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:54,320
Oh, a 100%.

1652
01:00:55,420 --> 01:00:55,920
It's

1653
01:00:56,539 --> 01:00:58,480
a blast watching this movie.

1654
01:00:59,594 --> 01:01:00,815
Mhmm. And

1655
01:01:01,315 --> 01:01:01,815
I

1656
01:01:02,315 --> 01:01:04,014
don't know if I have any other

1657
01:01:04,795 --> 01:01:08,074
points that you bring up for it. Well,

1658
01:01:08,074 --> 01:01:09,135
I mean, there's the choreography.

1659
01:01:09,675 --> 01:01:10,815
Yeah. Right?

1660
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,259
Nothing like this has existed in his films.

1661
01:01:15,639 --> 01:01:16,940
And he's never done

1662
01:01:18,279 --> 01:01:18,779
action

1663
01:01:19,079 --> 01:01:19,579
films.

1664
01:01:20,039 --> 01:01:22,759
Right. Right. And, hopefully, we'll get to talk

1665
01:01:22,759 --> 01:01:24,440
to him so he can address this a

1666
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,734
little more. But, you know, it's it's it's

1667
01:01:26,934 --> 01:01:28,315
you don't need to be

1668
01:01:28,855 --> 01:01:30,875
an experienced filmmaker to know

1669
01:01:31,335 --> 01:01:33,574
the difference between a creepy dude in the

1670
01:01:33,574 --> 01:01:34,714
woods horror movie.

1671
01:01:35,094 --> 01:01:37,974
Mhmm. Right? With, you know, occasionally, they run.

1672
01:01:37,974 --> 01:01:39,835
Usually, it's just like showing up in,

1673
01:01:40,614 --> 01:01:42,920
you know, blood and sounds and screams.

1674
01:01:43,539 --> 01:01:45,159
But when you're doing, like, fighting

1675
01:01:46,179 --> 01:01:48,679
Right. Full out fighting, you know,

1676
01:01:48,980 --> 01:01:50,039
the the choreography,

1677
01:01:51,059 --> 01:01:52,280
the the practice,

1678
01:01:53,539 --> 01:01:54,280
the rehearsal

1679
01:01:54,820 --> 01:01:55,320
to

1680
01:01:55,784 --> 01:01:56,525
get those

1681
01:01:56,905 --> 01:01:58,424
things down. And we know we we know

1682
01:01:58,424 --> 01:01:59,724
this from all kinds of films.

1683
01:02:00,105 --> 01:02:03,484
Right? Everything from Bruce Lee to Jackie Chan.

1684
01:02:03,784 --> 01:02:05,005
And doing it safely.

1685
01:02:05,304 --> 01:02:06,444
Doing it safely.

1686
01:02:06,744 --> 01:02:08,684
You know, her actors are paramount

1687
01:02:08,984 --> 01:02:10,204
in that respect

1688
01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:13,639
to, you know, not only make it look

1689
01:02:13,639 --> 01:02:14,139
real,

1690
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,440
but how many times you have to do

1691
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,059
it, and you have to

1692
01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:20,199
again, you have to love it as an

1693
01:02:20,199 --> 01:02:20,699
actor.

1694
01:02:21,239 --> 01:02:23,260
Oh, yeah. I know they put in some

1695
01:02:23,525 --> 01:02:24,985
some time and some takes.

1696
01:02:25,765 --> 01:02:26,265
I

1697
01:02:27,125 --> 01:02:28,905
am friends with David on socials,

1698
01:02:29,765 --> 01:02:32,244
and he posts a lot of little behind

1699
01:02:32,244 --> 01:02:32,885
the scenes

1700
01:02:33,285 --> 01:02:35,765
Yes. Clips and stuff. And I just delight

1701
01:02:35,765 --> 01:02:37,204
in watching them all the time. And when

1702
01:02:37,204 --> 01:02:38,425
they were making this,

1703
01:02:41,289 --> 01:02:42,730
there was there weren't a lot because he

1704
01:02:42,730 --> 01:02:44,510
was keeping a lot of it very

1705
01:02:44,969 --> 01:02:45,469
quiet,

1706
01:02:46,730 --> 01:02:47,230
but

1707
01:02:47,849 --> 01:02:49,309
there were a lot of

1708
01:02:50,010 --> 01:02:51,630
very good little outtakes

1709
01:02:52,090 --> 01:02:52,590
of

1710
01:02:53,804 --> 01:02:54,784
after the choreography

1711
01:02:55,164 --> 01:02:57,744
or trying to nail a move or, you

1712
01:02:58,045 --> 01:03:00,045
know, all these little things, and it was

1713
01:03:00,045 --> 01:03:00,545
just

1714
01:03:01,164 --> 01:03:02,764
you could tell how much work went into

1715
01:03:02,764 --> 01:03:04,525
it. Yeah. And the finished product, you can

1716
01:03:04,525 --> 01:03:06,224
tell how much work went into it.

1717
01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,219
If you go to YouTube,

1718
01:03:10,159 --> 01:03:12,099
and look up Clear Focus Movies,

1719
01:03:13,199 --> 01:03:15,360
some of those videos Mhmm. Are are on

1720
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,139
there. And and they're a delight.

1721
01:03:17,679 --> 01:03:18,659
They're a delight.

1722
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:19,940
I also

1723
01:03:21,204 --> 01:03:23,364
I of course, if this did happen, he

1724
01:03:23,364 --> 01:03:25,045
could choose just not to post it, so

1725
01:03:25,045 --> 01:03:26,505
we'd never know. But,

1726
01:03:27,045 --> 01:03:27,704
I mean,

1727
01:03:28,804 --> 01:03:29,545
these people,

1728
01:03:30,164 --> 01:03:33,385
these actors look like they're just in it.

1729
01:03:33,869 --> 01:03:35,710
You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. And,

1730
01:03:35,710 --> 01:03:36,849
you know, they're laughing,

1731
01:03:37,150 --> 01:03:39,089
and it's hard. You know it. But

1732
01:03:40,109 --> 01:03:41,710
you just can get the sense that they

1733
01:03:41,710 --> 01:03:42,769
feel good

1734
01:03:43,549 --> 01:03:45,389
about what's going on, and they're into it.

1735
01:03:45,607 --> 01:03:47,585
Set. And, yeah, it's a good set, and

1736
01:03:47,585 --> 01:03:49,284
that's super important. Mhmm.

1737
01:03:49,905 --> 01:03:52,065
We've we've talked about like we just mentioned,

1738
01:03:52,065 --> 01:03:54,885
you know, early on, he was doing everything.

1739
01:03:54,945 --> 01:03:55,445
Liam,

1740
01:03:55,824 --> 01:03:58,650
you know, famously described himself as Lorraine's bitch.

1741
01:03:59,529 --> 01:04:01,289
He would he would do everything from running

1742
01:04:01,289 --> 01:04:03,609
to get coffee to setting up shots and

1743
01:04:03,609 --> 01:04:04,510
just everything.

1744
01:04:05,210 --> 01:04:07,469
Independent film, that's what you do.

1745
01:04:08,170 --> 01:04:08,909
B movies,

1746
01:04:10,089 --> 01:04:11,309
slightly higher budgets,

1747
01:04:12,875 --> 01:04:13,375
union

1748
01:04:14,074 --> 01:04:14,574
cruise,

1749
01:04:14,875 --> 01:04:16,734
based here in the States. Right. Right?

1750
01:04:18,074 --> 01:04:20,315
But still a similar ish. It is very

1751
01:04:20,315 --> 01:04:22,795
similar because everyone has to kinda, you know

1752
01:04:23,114 --> 01:04:25,195
Kill in? Bring your a game Mhmm. And

1753
01:04:25,195 --> 01:04:27,034
then throw some other letters on there too.

1754
01:04:27,034 --> 01:04:27,534
Because

1755
01:04:28,210 --> 01:04:29,730
there's there's you know, we just gotta get

1756
01:04:29,730 --> 01:04:31,250
shit done. We have a budget

1757
01:04:31,570 --> 01:04:33,650
Mhmm. And it's pretty big, but it's for,

1758
01:04:33,650 --> 01:04:35,250
like, the nitty gritty to get this thing

1759
01:04:35,250 --> 01:04:36,949
done. We don't have time

1760
01:04:38,050 --> 01:04:39,190
for extra bullshit.

1761
01:04:39,570 --> 01:04:41,650
Right. We don't have time for delays. So,

1762
01:04:41,650 --> 01:04:44,105
you know, someone pukes and you're near a

1763
01:04:44,105 --> 01:04:45,625
mop, pick up that fucking mop and mop

1764
01:04:45,625 --> 01:04:47,385
it up. Because I don't care if you're

1765
01:04:47,385 --> 01:04:50,025
the janitor or not. You're the someone just

1766
01:04:50,025 --> 01:04:51,784
do it, please, so we can get going.

1767
01:04:51,784 --> 01:04:52,684
Yeah. Right?

1768
01:04:53,144 --> 01:04:54,764
And, you know, they

1769
01:04:55,224 --> 01:04:56,844
they mostly jump in.

1770
01:04:57,704 --> 01:04:59,280
But An independent film is where you're gonna

1771
01:04:59,599 --> 01:05:00,820
you just you have to.

1772
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,360
Well, there isn't any other choice. You either

1773
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,360
do it or the movie doesn't get made.

1774
01:05:05,360 --> 01:05:05,860
Right.

1775
01:05:07,519 --> 01:05:08,019
Variables.

1776
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:10,180
I was watching this.

1777
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:12,820
I was thinking, god, what would have happened

1778
01:05:13,434 --> 01:05:15,694
if Aaron had to tap out,

1779
01:05:16,795 --> 01:05:17,295
right,

1780
01:05:17,914 --> 01:05:20,315
at some point in the production or even,

1781
01:05:20,315 --> 01:05:20,815
like,

1782
01:05:21,275 --> 01:05:23,054
just before shooting began?

1783
01:05:24,234 --> 01:05:26,154
She's the central character that's a problem for

1784
01:05:26,154 --> 01:05:27,054
anyone, anywhere.

1785
01:05:29,110 --> 01:05:31,210
In an a list in Hollywood,

1786
01:05:32,070 --> 01:05:32,730
big productions,

1787
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:34,489
you have

1788
01:05:35,269 --> 01:05:37,130
15 people deep

1789
01:05:37,590 --> 01:05:38,969
who can take this part.

1790
01:05:39,670 --> 01:05:40,170
Right.

1791
01:05:40,535 --> 01:05:42,295
They've got it in the casting. Everyone has

1792
01:05:42,295 --> 01:05:44,934
it in their head. You know, something happens

1793
01:05:44,934 --> 01:05:47,175
because it's a reality. Mhmm. Something happens, I'm

1794
01:05:47,175 --> 01:05:48,614
gonna wheel this in. And depending at what

1795
01:05:48,614 --> 01:05:50,295
point in the motion picture, what do you

1796
01:05:50,295 --> 01:05:50,795
do?

1797
01:05:51,255 --> 01:05:51,755
Unlike

1798
01:05:52,055 --> 01:05:52,795
Ed Wood

1799
01:05:55,409 --> 01:05:56,070
who replaced

1800
01:05:56,369 --> 01:05:58,630
because Bela Lugosi died. Yes.

1801
01:05:59,889 --> 01:06:02,530
Hired a guy who was, like, a foot

1802
01:06:02,530 --> 01:06:03,590
and a half taller.

1803
01:06:04,289 --> 01:06:07,164
Right. Walked around with his his Dracula cape

1804
01:06:07,164 --> 01:06:09,344
over his face like we wouldn't notice.

1805
01:06:10,125 --> 01:06:12,304
And we didn't. It was perfect and flawless.

1806
01:06:12,444 --> 01:06:13,804
Yeah. I mean, I had to read about

1807
01:06:13,804 --> 01:06:16,144
it to Yeah. Know the difference. Yeah.

1808
01:06:16,764 --> 01:06:17,744
Oh my god.

1809
01:06:18,684 --> 01:06:20,704
But in independent film, it's harder.

1810
01:06:21,849 --> 01:06:24,190
It's way harder. David has

1811
01:06:25,609 --> 01:06:28,170
had a a pretty mean budget to get

1812
01:06:28,170 --> 01:06:29,389
some of the stuff done.

1813
01:06:30,329 --> 01:06:31,469
But even then,

1814
01:06:32,570 --> 01:06:35,050
what happens if somebody has to drop out,

1815
01:06:35,050 --> 01:06:36,670
especially after all that work?

1816
01:06:37,105 --> 01:06:40,864
Independent film cannot suffer those setbacks as easily

1817
01:06:40,864 --> 01:06:43,344
as a b movie or and neither one

1818
01:06:43,344 --> 01:06:45,045
can suffer it as easily as

1819
01:06:45,585 --> 01:06:47,844
primary production. Right. Right?

1820
01:06:49,329 --> 01:06:51,170
In fact, primary production, if it's too big

1821
01:06:51,170 --> 01:06:51,909
of a deal,

1822
01:06:52,289 --> 01:06:54,289
they'll just close the book. They'll write it

1823
01:06:54,289 --> 01:06:55,409
off at the end of the year, and

1824
01:06:55,409 --> 01:06:56,929
we'll never see any bit of that movie.

1825
01:06:56,929 --> 01:06:58,609
They won't go back to it. It's happened

1826
01:06:58,609 --> 01:07:01,170
so many times. So many times. Indie film

1827
01:07:01,170 --> 01:07:03,349
though, that's this is it.

1828
01:07:03,664 --> 01:07:05,925
This is blood and bone and flesh.

1829
01:07:07,025 --> 01:07:07,525
Something

1830
01:07:07,905 --> 01:07:09,425
big like that were to happen, you have

1831
01:07:09,425 --> 01:07:11,505
to fucking make it work. You do? You

1832
01:07:11,505 --> 01:07:13,505
have to. Because you can't dump all that

1833
01:07:13,505 --> 01:07:15,744
money in. You can't go to any investors

1834
01:07:15,744 --> 01:07:17,264
you might have had and say, well, shit

1835
01:07:17,264 --> 01:07:17,764
happens.

1836
01:07:18,410 --> 01:07:21,050
The playground is very different. You cannot scrap

1837
01:07:21,050 --> 01:07:21,950
the whole project.

1838
01:07:22,730 --> 01:07:23,230
No.

1839
01:07:23,690 --> 01:07:24,190
No.

1840
01:07:26,570 --> 01:07:28,809
When we were watching Beowulf and we interviewed

1841
01:07:28,809 --> 01:07:29,309
everybody,

1842
01:07:32,054 --> 01:07:32,875
you know,

1843
01:07:33,335 --> 01:07:35,574
Bella got sick. Mhmm. So they had to

1844
01:07:35,574 --> 01:07:37,894
swap in, and it worked out good. Okay.

1845
01:07:37,894 --> 01:07:38,554
You know?

1846
01:07:39,335 --> 01:07:40,855
But that's just kind of the thing that

1847
01:07:40,855 --> 01:07:41,594
that happens.

1848
01:07:42,375 --> 01:07:42,875
And,

1849
01:07:43,650 --> 01:07:45,089
you know, the the the big takeaways of

1850
01:07:45,089 --> 01:07:46,150
this are the cinematography,

1851
01:07:46,449 --> 01:07:47,190
number 1,

1852
01:07:47,650 --> 01:07:49,569
because David is just so good at it.

1853
01:07:49,569 --> 01:07:51,889
It's every one of David's movies were like,

1854
01:07:51,889 --> 01:07:52,789
oh, the cinematography.

1855
01:07:54,130 --> 01:07:54,630
It's

1856
01:07:56,864 --> 01:07:58,724
what would what would the word be?

1857
01:08:01,585 --> 01:08:02,085
Cinematography

1858
01:08:02,704 --> 01:08:03,204
porn.

1859
01:08:03,585 --> 01:08:05,204
It's just so good.

1860
01:08:05,505 --> 01:08:07,985
Right? It's like you sit down. Well, I

1861
01:08:07,985 --> 01:08:09,285
mean, we we own,

1862
01:08:11,030 --> 01:08:11,769
the Redwood

1863
01:08:12,309 --> 01:08:14,150
movies. Mhmm. And we can, you know, get

1864
01:08:14,150 --> 01:08:15,670
the other one. Like, Attack of the Herbals

1865
01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:17,430
is out there for anybody on YouTube. I

1866
01:08:17,430 --> 01:08:19,029
encourage you to watch it if you haven't

1867
01:08:19,029 --> 01:08:19,529
already.

1868
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:21,670
Right. And go back and listen to our

1869
01:08:21,670 --> 01:08:24,184
episode on it. Listen to the, David Ryan

1870
01:08:24,184 --> 01:08:26,204
Keith and Liam Mathison interviews

1871
01:08:26,664 --> 01:08:28,824
with the ghost one? What is that in

1872
01:08:28,824 --> 01:08:29,804
the darkness?

1873
01:08:30,184 --> 01:08:32,184
What is I can't remember the name. Uh-uh,

1874
01:08:32,184 --> 01:08:34,344
Ghost in the Dark. That's the one. Yeah.

1875
01:08:34,344 --> 01:08:34,844
Yeah.

1876
01:08:37,460 --> 01:08:39,460
But it is every time I sit down

1877
01:08:39,460 --> 01:08:41,300
to watch something because I've watched it in

1878
01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:43,460
bed. I'm gonna throw a redwood on. Sure.

1879
01:08:43,460 --> 01:08:44,119
You know?

1880
01:08:45,619 --> 01:08:46,119
It

1881
01:08:47,060 --> 01:08:47,619
it's just

1882
01:08:48,135 --> 01:08:50,394
I know I'm getting to this really salacious

1883
01:08:51,094 --> 01:08:51,594
visual

1884
01:08:52,454 --> 01:08:54,715
that has nothing to do with the characters

1885
01:08:54,854 --> 01:08:55,755
or the story.

1886
01:08:56,215 --> 01:08:58,875
I just love watching good cinematography.

1887
01:08:59,814 --> 01:09:01,755
Like, this is thought. This is planned,

1888
01:09:02,250 --> 01:09:03,469
and it's it's

1889
01:09:03,849 --> 01:09:07,229
crafty or creative. Mhmm. And it's

1890
01:09:08,809 --> 01:09:11,469
technically proficient, but it's also unique.

1891
01:09:12,329 --> 01:09:14,329
Because all these people that we know are

1892
01:09:14,329 --> 01:09:16,429
technically proficient in their craft.

1893
01:09:16,744 --> 01:09:18,905
But with technically proficient, you can also do

1894
01:09:18,905 --> 01:09:21,145
things different enough to get your signature and

1895
01:09:21,145 --> 01:09:22,765
then make it you. And, you know,

1896
01:09:23,385 --> 01:09:25,405
one's not better than the other. It's just,

1897
01:09:25,864 --> 01:09:26,524
you know?

1898
01:09:28,024 --> 01:09:29,405
Well, there's, like,

1899
01:09:30,420 --> 01:09:32,500
there are actors who are really excellent at

1900
01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:35,779
acting. Mhmm. There are actors who trained for

1901
01:09:35,779 --> 01:09:38,840
years years years to become excellent at acting.

1902
01:09:39,699 --> 01:09:41,159
There are actors who

1903
01:09:42,515 --> 01:09:43,015
just

1904
01:09:43,795 --> 01:09:45,335
have that something

1905
01:09:46,034 --> 01:09:48,515
Yes. And that I'm not minimizing the amount

1906
01:09:48,515 --> 01:09:50,055
of work that they put in

1907
01:09:50,755 --> 01:09:51,814
to their craft.

1908
01:09:52,114 --> 01:09:53,095
Right? Mhmm.

1909
01:09:53,555 --> 01:09:55,734
And there's something to say for, like,

1910
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:58,520
you know, you do a thing enough times,

1911
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:00,460
then you become very good at it.

1912
01:10:01,319 --> 01:10:01,819
Right?

1913
01:10:02,520 --> 01:10:04,220
But I also truly believe

1914
01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:06,760
that there are people out there who just

1915
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:07,260
have

1916
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:08,539
a gift

1917
01:10:09,515 --> 01:10:10,414
for a thing.

1918
01:10:10,795 --> 01:10:12,895
This is where they needed to end up.

1919
01:10:13,354 --> 01:10:13,854
Right.

1920
01:10:14,795 --> 01:10:16,635
Right. And you you still even if you

1921
01:10:16,635 --> 01:10:19,375
have a gift for for painting or drawing

1922
01:10:19,554 --> 01:10:21,835
or writing or whatever it is, you still

1923
01:10:21,835 --> 01:10:23,274
need to put a lot of work into

1924
01:10:23,274 --> 01:10:25,829
it to become excellent at it. Oh, absolutely.

1925
01:10:25,890 --> 01:10:26,789
Right? Yes.

1926
01:10:27,570 --> 01:10:30,229
But there is no replacing that inherent,

1927
01:10:31,890 --> 01:10:32,390
instinct

1928
01:10:34,770 --> 01:10:36,949
for what looks good,

1929
01:10:37,864 --> 01:10:40,204
and I think that David has that. Yeah.

1930
01:10:40,505 --> 01:10:42,425
I mean, you can learn to do any

1931
01:10:42,425 --> 01:10:44,125
of the stuff having to do

1932
01:10:45,385 --> 01:10:47,324
with film. Mhmm. Right?

1933
01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:53,340
But there are those people, like you said,

1934
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:54,380
they were born

1935
01:10:55,159 --> 01:10:55,899
with it.

1936
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,520
And at some point, they crossed paths with

1937
01:10:58,520 --> 01:10:59,579
it, and it's like,

1938
01:11:00,119 --> 01:11:00,619
woah.

1939
01:11:01,159 --> 01:11:01,659
Woah.

1940
01:11:02,119 --> 01:11:04,699
Yeah. Right? But there are people who didn't,

1941
01:11:04,984 --> 01:11:06,744
weren't born with it, and have, you know,

1942
01:11:06,744 --> 01:11:09,385
openly say, hey. You know, I sucked. I

1943
01:11:09,465 --> 01:11:10,824
1st 5 years, I was you know, I

1944
01:11:10,824 --> 01:11:12,824
left LA. I was so fucking mad. But

1945
01:11:12,824 --> 01:11:14,505
then I, you know, got my shit together,

1946
01:11:14,505 --> 01:11:16,284
dove into it, and

1947
01:11:16,824 --> 01:11:19,005
worked the craft. Mhmm. You know?

1948
01:11:19,310 --> 01:11:20,930
And, I mean, we we know

1949
01:11:21,550 --> 01:11:23,789
100 and 100 and not personally, but we

1950
01:11:23,789 --> 01:11:25,310
know, you know, 100 and 100 and 100

1951
01:11:25,310 --> 01:11:25,970
of actors

1952
01:11:27,789 --> 01:11:29,550
who have played, you know, different things in

1953
01:11:29,550 --> 01:11:31,250
movies. Like, I think of, like, Tom Sizemore.

1954
01:11:31,470 --> 01:11:33,805
He's never really been, like, the go to

1955
01:11:33,805 --> 01:11:35,244
guy, but he was, you know, the backup

1956
01:11:35,244 --> 01:11:37,324
guy to Heat, and he's behind Al Pacino

1957
01:11:37,324 --> 01:11:38,845
and and, you know Right.

1958
01:11:43,085 --> 01:11:45,164
But he he was good at what he

1959
01:11:45,164 --> 01:11:45,664
did.

1960
01:11:46,340 --> 01:11:47,079
You know?

1961
01:11:48,179 --> 01:11:50,439
And whatever the the things are about

1962
01:11:51,300 --> 01:11:53,859
who gets where and what stuff. There are

1963
01:11:53,859 --> 01:11:56,340
people who are being lauded as, like, you

1964
01:11:56,340 --> 01:11:56,840
know,

1965
01:11:57,619 --> 01:11:58,599
Hollywood royalty.

1966
01:11:58,899 --> 01:12:00,279
And I look at it, and I'm thinking,

1967
01:12:01,215 --> 01:12:01,875
I'd rather

1968
01:12:02,255 --> 01:12:04,354
watch a 3rd grade play than see any

1969
01:12:04,921 --> 01:12:07,295
this man or woman in anything because they're

1970
01:12:07,295 --> 01:12:07,954
not good.

1971
01:12:09,054 --> 01:12:10,974
You know? But that's that's why we do

1972
01:12:10,974 --> 01:12:13,534
this podcast because Hollywood is not where you

1973
01:12:13,534 --> 01:12:16,114
go find the great shit. Great shit is

1974
01:12:16,750 --> 01:12:18,849
everybody who is struggling to get it done.

1975
01:12:19,229 --> 01:12:20,909
Oh, yeah. You know? And there's a lot

1976
01:12:20,909 --> 01:12:22,590
of actors who did any film. A lot

1977
01:12:22,590 --> 01:12:24,929
of actors who, you know, be Bruce Campbell,

1978
01:12:25,550 --> 01:12:26,609
the movie master.

1979
01:12:26,989 --> 01:12:28,689
The movie king. Right?

1980
01:12:28,994 --> 01:12:32,195
It's fucking wonderful. Yeah. I don't wanna see

1981
01:12:32,195 --> 01:12:34,994
him leading a Marvel type movie. I don't

1982
01:12:34,994 --> 01:12:37,255
wanna see him in a tentpole film because

1983
01:12:38,114 --> 01:12:40,295
they're not going to let him be him.

1984
01:12:41,170 --> 01:12:42,929
You know? Right. They're gonna shape him into

1985
01:12:42,929 --> 01:12:45,489
the marketing and the bullshit and stuff. You

1986
01:12:45,489 --> 01:12:47,590
know? I want Bubba Ho Taep

1987
01:12:47,969 --> 01:12:48,869
all the way.

1988
01:12:50,369 --> 01:12:52,869
Right. You know? I want army of darkness,

1989
01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:54,949
Bruce Campbell. God. Yes.

1990
01:12:55,345 --> 01:12:57,505
Because that is where he rocks. Yeah. You

1991
01:12:57,505 --> 01:12:59,204
know? And when he did television

1992
01:13:01,104 --> 01:13:01,604
awesome.

1993
01:13:03,104 --> 01:13:04,944
Oh, that's right. He did that.

1994
01:13:05,905 --> 01:13:07,905
It was Burn notice. I would love to

1995
01:13:07,905 --> 01:13:09,444
see David directing Bruce.

1996
01:13:10,079 --> 01:13:12,239
I would shit myself with such joy. That

1997
01:13:12,239 --> 01:13:13,060
would be wild.

1998
01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:14,500
Interesting.

1999
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:16,800
That would be wild. Could you see Bruce

2000
01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,979
in in, like, Attack of the Herbals,

2001
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:20,500
elevated?

2002
01:13:20,880 --> 01:13:23,139
Like, at David's current level of of

2003
01:13:23,599 --> 01:13:24,659
skill and resources?

2004
01:13:26,314 --> 01:13:28,395
Bring in Bruce. I mean, I think that

2005
01:13:28,395 --> 01:13:30,074
would be a good that would be a

2006
01:13:30,074 --> 01:13:30,814
good combo.

2007
01:13:33,034 --> 01:13:35,675
Wish list. I couldn't see Bruce in something

2008
01:13:35,675 --> 01:13:36,414
like Redwood.

2009
01:13:36,795 --> 01:13:39,135
Oh, no. Not a horror. Yeah. Like that.

2010
01:13:40,039 --> 01:13:41,560
More like Attack of the Herbals, like I

2011
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,600
said, because it's funny as shit. He could've

2012
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,840
played any number of people in there, you

2013
01:13:46,840 --> 01:13:49,400
know, especially the dad. You're trying to kill

2014
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:50,140
me, woman.

2015
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:52,220
It tastes like this.

2016
01:13:53,064 --> 01:13:55,385
The the music is very different. It just

2017
01:13:56,104 --> 01:13:57,944
so like I said before, when we got

2018
01:13:57,944 --> 01:13:59,164
the the

2019
01:13:59,625 --> 01:14:00,604
the rough cut,

2020
01:14:01,385 --> 01:14:03,224
it just had all good. But I even

2021
01:14:03,224 --> 01:14:04,904
told him, I said, you know, actually, this

2022
01:14:04,904 --> 01:14:07,119
music that you picked is That's pretty good.

2023
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:08,920
Is pretty good. But he he did get

2024
01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:09,579
it elevated

2025
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,800
Yeah. Which is is kinda cool. They did

2026
01:14:11,800 --> 01:14:13,020
sort of change the

2027
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:14,619
the the tune a bit.

2028
01:14:15,079 --> 01:14:17,720
The difference between what we saw and after

2029
01:14:17,720 --> 01:14:19,500
he colored it, the color correction

2030
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:20,949
Mhmm. Goddamn.

2031
01:14:21,274 --> 01:14:22,795
It was good, and then it was just

2032
01:14:22,795 --> 01:14:23,534
like, fucking

2033
01:14:24,875 --> 01:14:25,375
woah.

2034
01:14:26,554 --> 01:14:27,534
There you go, dude.

2035
01:14:28,554 --> 01:14:30,715
It was really good. It was. I mean

2036
01:14:31,034 --> 01:14:31,534
yeah.

2037
01:14:32,554 --> 01:14:34,635
I mean, I think the standout actor for

2038
01:14:34,635 --> 01:14:35,835
this film is the,

2039
01:14:36,859 --> 01:14:37,760
is Adam.

2040
01:14:38,539 --> 01:14:39,039
Adam?

2041
01:14:39,340 --> 01:14:39,840
Yes.

2042
01:14:41,260 --> 01:14:42,559
Because he was

2043
01:14:43,260 --> 01:14:44,159
very charming,

2044
01:14:44,699 --> 01:14:46,639
you know, very outgoing,

2045
01:14:47,420 --> 01:14:48,239
very likable.

2046
01:14:48,619 --> 01:14:49,119
Mhmm.

2047
01:14:49,564 --> 01:14:51,885
Even after you found out, like, what he

2048
01:14:51,885 --> 01:14:52,385
was,

2049
01:14:53,405 --> 01:14:54,385
I was still like,

2050
01:14:55,244 --> 01:14:57,425
I mean, but he's like you know?

2051
01:14:58,765 --> 01:15:00,925
He he he sucked you in, did he?

2052
01:15:00,925 --> 01:15:03,000
He did. Yeah. I I tell you what.

2053
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,000
He he still he made me laugh. Mhmm.

2054
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:07,159
There's there's a few moments where it's you

2055
01:15:07,159 --> 01:15:07,659
know?

2056
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:11,000
That's the only thing too. David always manages

2057
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:12,760
to find a way to put something light

2058
01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:15,559
in. A little humor. Right? Just to kinda

2059
01:15:15,719 --> 01:15:18,354
you know? It's okay, guys. It's okay. Yeah.

2060
01:15:18,354 --> 01:15:19,975
You don't have to take it so seriously.

2061
01:15:20,114 --> 01:15:22,274
You know? But, usually, he does that when

2062
01:15:22,274 --> 01:15:23,555
it's like, you don't need to take it

2063
01:15:23,555 --> 01:15:25,555
seriously. Take a breath. It's okay because shit's

2064
01:15:25,555 --> 01:15:27,975
about to get fucking sinister. That's true.

2065
01:15:28,675 --> 01:15:29,734
That's very true.

2066
01:15:30,039 --> 01:15:31,639
You see enough of the work, and you're

2067
01:15:31,639 --> 01:15:33,179
like, oh, here it comes.

2068
01:15:35,399 --> 01:15:37,420
The bad guy made a funny oh, shit.

2069
01:15:39,399 --> 01:15:41,100
So I Am Rage.

2070
01:15:42,215 --> 01:15:43,595
I Am Rage.

2071
01:15:43,975 --> 01:15:44,954
Excellent movie.

2072
01:15:46,055 --> 01:15:46,555
Excellent

2073
01:15:46,935 --> 01:15:47,435
visuals,

2074
01:15:49,095 --> 01:15:49,595
acting,

2075
01:15:50,055 --> 01:15:51,034
the the choreography,

2076
01:15:51,734 --> 01:15:54,295
and, you know, kudos to David for getting

2077
01:15:54,295 --> 01:15:55,975
to do the thing he's always wanted to

2078
01:15:55,975 --> 01:15:59,000
do. Mhmm. It's always magnificent. We celebrate that.

2079
01:15:59,139 --> 01:16:00,599
And listeners, you should too

2080
01:16:00,899 --> 01:16:02,899
because that's the other thing secret to this

2081
01:16:02,899 --> 01:16:03,399
business.

2082
01:16:04,500 --> 01:16:06,899
It's frustrating as fuck seeing everybody else get

2083
01:16:06,899 --> 01:16:08,979
something that you want and you haven't been

2084
01:16:08,979 --> 01:16:10,704
able to get to yet. But if you

2085
01:16:10,704 --> 01:16:12,965
don't celebrate it, you're never gonna make it.

2086
01:16:13,744 --> 01:16:15,905
You have to find it in you to

2087
01:16:15,905 --> 01:16:16,405
celebrate

2088
01:16:17,345 --> 01:16:18,645
somebody's success.

2089
01:16:19,664 --> 01:16:21,425
You know? Well, you have to you have

2090
01:16:21,425 --> 01:16:23,425
to remember. If you are the type of

2091
01:16:23,425 --> 01:16:24,805
person who who sees

2092
01:16:25,650 --> 01:16:27,570
your friends in the business or people you

2093
01:16:27,570 --> 01:16:29,329
don't know in the business or someone who

2094
01:16:29,329 --> 01:16:31,030
you met at one point,

2095
01:16:31,570 --> 01:16:34,070
be successful. If you have trouble with that,

2096
01:16:34,369 --> 01:16:35,510
you have to remember

2097
01:16:36,449 --> 01:16:39,090
them being successful does not take away from

2098
01:16:39,090 --> 01:16:39,590
you.

2099
01:16:41,045 --> 01:16:42,024
Not one bit.

2100
01:16:42,564 --> 01:16:43,704
Right? Not one bit.

2101
01:16:44,965 --> 01:16:46,485
And, plus, you want people to, you know,

2102
01:16:46,485 --> 01:16:48,725
celebrate your success. Yeah. If you're a dick

2103
01:16:48,725 --> 01:16:49,385
to everybody,

2104
01:16:49,765 --> 01:16:51,284
you're gonna, like, oh, I got the part

2105
01:16:51,284 --> 01:16:52,725
or I got the funding, and I, you

2106
01:16:52,725 --> 01:16:55,449
know, finish this fucking cut. And I'm gonna,

2107
01:16:55,449 --> 01:16:57,609
you know, put it to a festival or

2108
01:16:57,609 --> 01:16:59,369
distribute it or something. You're gonna be standing

2109
01:16:59,369 --> 01:17:00,510
alone in your closet

2110
01:17:00,969 --> 01:17:02,250
because, you know, you're such a bitch to

2111
01:17:02,250 --> 01:17:03,869
everybody. Yeah. Don't do that.

2112
01:17:04,889 --> 01:17:07,050
We recently made the finals in a screenplay

2113
01:17:07,050 --> 01:17:09,229
contest that we entered. Mhmm.

2114
01:17:10,065 --> 01:17:11,905
We were in the top we were in

2115
01:17:11,905 --> 01:17:14,145
the final 11 Yes. I believe, out of

2116
01:17:14,145 --> 01:17:14,645
1300

2117
01:17:15,185 --> 01:17:16,645
scripts that had entered. Yeah.

2118
01:17:17,425 --> 01:17:18,885
We didn't win the contest,

2119
01:17:20,145 --> 01:17:21,905
but I am so happy for the person

2120
01:17:21,905 --> 01:17:23,664
who did win because the prize was getting

2121
01:17:23,664 --> 01:17:27,380
that film made. Yes. With a guaranteed $10,000

2122
01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,539
budget. It's a short film. Yeah.

2123
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,780
You know? And you know?

2124
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:35,140
And was I a little bummed? Sure.

2125
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:36,420
But

2126
01:17:37,039 --> 01:17:37,780
I know

2127
01:17:39,015 --> 01:17:41,274
because I know our script is good. Yes.

2128
01:17:42,135 --> 01:17:44,215
So I know the person who won it,

2129
01:17:44,215 --> 01:17:47,194
their script must have been also very good.

2130
01:17:47,814 --> 01:17:48,635
And I'm

2131
01:17:49,015 --> 01:17:50,295
glad that somebody

2132
01:17:50,949 --> 01:17:52,949
you know, I'm glad these contests exist and,

2133
01:17:52,949 --> 01:17:54,310
you know, people could win them and get

2134
01:17:54,310 --> 01:17:55,449
their, you know,

2135
01:17:55,909 --> 01:17:58,170
get their foot in the door somewhere. Well,

2136
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:59,909
it it setting up so much with a

2137
01:17:59,909 --> 01:18:00,810
foot in the door

2138
01:18:01,270 --> 01:18:03,369
is even though we didn't win,

2139
01:18:04,645 --> 01:18:07,284
someone did, and it's gonna get made. And

2140
01:18:07,284 --> 01:18:08,824
it's one more

2141
01:18:10,244 --> 01:18:12,104
one more railroad tie

2142
01:18:12,484 --> 01:18:15,045
set onto the ground. Yeah. Right? And the

2143
01:18:15,045 --> 01:18:16,725
tracks are gonna be laid upon it and

2144
01:18:16,725 --> 01:18:17,545
another one.

2145
01:18:17,850 --> 01:18:19,630
Because when someone succeeds

2146
01:18:20,250 --> 01:18:22,489
in this business at whatever it is they're

2147
01:18:22,489 --> 01:18:22,989
doing,

2148
01:18:24,010 --> 01:18:26,170
that just keeps paving the way for the

2149
01:18:26,170 --> 01:18:28,889
rest of us. Yeah. Right? Who are there

2150
01:18:28,969 --> 01:18:31,135
and we're laying down ties too. Oh, yeah.

2151
01:18:31,135 --> 01:18:32,774
You know? I mean, that's the whole thing

2152
01:18:32,774 --> 01:18:34,954
is whatever you're doing, that's what's happening.

2153
01:18:36,375 --> 01:18:38,555
Yeah. So you've gotta you gotta be in

2154
01:18:38,854 --> 01:18:40,694
it for it, you know? And we could,

2155
01:18:40,694 --> 01:18:42,314
you know, pause it. We've had

2156
01:18:43,869 --> 01:18:46,270
talked with people about contests and stuff. You

2157
01:18:46,270 --> 01:18:48,109
know? Sometimes it's not the level of the

2158
01:18:48,109 --> 01:18:50,609
script. It's everybody's mood or it's the thing.

2159
01:18:51,869 --> 01:18:53,969
You know? Right. We do it with pitches.

2160
01:18:54,109 --> 01:18:56,109
Like, we just we did a pitch, and

2161
01:18:56,109 --> 01:18:57,569
we got solid

2162
01:18:58,175 --> 01:19:01,215
marks on it. We Right? Did. And the

2163
01:19:01,215 --> 01:19:03,774
person said, I'm only passing because I already

2164
01:19:03,774 --> 01:19:05,795
have some a project that's in this

2165
01:19:06,175 --> 01:19:06,675
space.

2166
01:19:06,975 --> 01:19:09,395
Yes. And it's like, fuck.

2167
01:19:10,015 --> 01:19:12,609
Yeah. I mean You know, how do you

2168
01:19:12,609 --> 01:19:14,050
get that close and then all of a

2169
01:19:14,050 --> 01:19:16,149
sudden just, you know, clapper

2170
01:19:16,529 --> 01:19:17,829
closes on your genitals?

2171
01:19:19,489 --> 01:19:20,789
Ouch. You know?

2172
01:19:21,809 --> 01:19:23,409
But, hey, that's the business. That's what we

2173
01:19:23,409 --> 01:19:25,010
keep talking about. Suck it up. That's the

2174
01:19:25,010 --> 01:19:26,505
only thing you can do. You know, we

2175
01:19:26,505 --> 01:19:28,444
don't need to talk pretty about it anymore.

2176
01:19:28,664 --> 01:19:29,804
Just grow up.

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01:19:30,265 --> 01:19:31,885
It sucks. It's terrible.

2178
01:19:33,625 --> 01:19:35,064
But if this is really what you wanna

2179
01:19:35,064 --> 01:19:37,064
do, you're gonna eat every bowl of shit

2180
01:19:37,064 --> 01:19:39,399
that serves you until the one day you

2181
01:19:39,399 --> 01:19:41,579
get to do it. And we're gonna watch

2182
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:44,520
every film David ever makes and every film

2183
01:19:44,520 --> 01:19:47,180
our friends, the Ponder boys, ever make

2184
01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:50,060
and every film that, you know,

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01:19:50,764 --> 01:19:53,344
Ryan Krueger ever makes and and and

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01:19:53,885 --> 01:19:54,284
everybody

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01:19:54,685 --> 01:19:56,925
Yep. Alex. That we we know and love

2188
01:19:56,925 --> 01:19:58,944
and care about in this business because

2189
01:20:00,524 --> 01:20:02,145
they're doing it. Yeah.

2190
01:20:02,619 --> 01:20:04,300
Someone makes a movie, you watch it. And

2191
01:20:04,300 --> 01:20:07,100
we've watched some stinkers lately just as casual

2192
01:20:07,100 --> 01:20:07,600
watching.

2193
01:20:08,060 --> 01:20:09,420
But some of them, you know, I think

2194
01:20:09,420 --> 01:20:11,420
we're gonna go back and revisit. I'll tell

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01:20:11,420 --> 01:20:13,020
you what, this horror movie I will not

2196
01:20:13,020 --> 01:20:14,539
name that we're in the middle of that

2197
01:20:14,539 --> 01:20:15,979
we've been watching Oh, that I took off.

2198
01:20:16,060 --> 01:20:17,359
Since last night? Up next.

2199
01:20:18,195 --> 01:20:22,034
It was good. It was bad. Yeah. Really

2200
01:20:22,034 --> 01:20:22,534
bad,

2201
01:20:23,234 --> 01:20:26,055
but, like, in an entertaining way. Yeah.

2202
01:20:27,155 --> 01:20:27,655
Yeah.

2203
01:20:28,994 --> 01:20:30,755
Anyway, a lot of it has to do

2204
01:20:30,755 --> 01:20:32,710
with mood, but we'll talk about that in

2205
01:20:32,710 --> 01:20:35,750
another episode. I mean, that's true. So here's

2206
01:20:35,750 --> 01:20:38,470
the point, folks, where I say, head to

2207
01:20:38,470 --> 01:20:39,289
our Patreon,

2208
01:20:40,149 --> 01:20:40,649
patreon.com/bravafortheb

2209
01:20:42,789 --> 01:20:43,289
side.

2210
01:20:44,005 --> 01:20:45,204
Or if you wanna be a little more

2211
01:20:45,204 --> 01:20:45,704
general,

2212
01:20:46,085 --> 01:20:46,585
patreon.com

2213
01:20:47,685 --> 01:20:48,505
over slash

2214
01:20:49,284 --> 01:20:50,905
lords of misrule productions.

2215
01:20:52,005 --> 01:20:53,685
Probably wanna do the b side one. It's

2216
01:20:53,685 --> 01:20:54,425
a little shorter.

2217
01:20:56,340 --> 01:20:56,840
Please

2218
01:20:57,939 --> 01:21:00,199
become a patron. $5 a month.

2219
01:21:00,739 --> 01:21:02,100
Sign up for you don't have to sign

2220
01:21:02,100 --> 01:21:03,800
up for both. If you want to,

2221
01:21:04,100 --> 01:21:05,399
not gonna stop you.

2222
01:21:05,939 --> 01:21:06,439
But,

2223
01:21:07,539 --> 01:21:09,079
now, like I said in the last episode,

2224
01:21:09,139 --> 01:21:11,104
we're gonna keep pushing this. We would like

2225
01:21:11,104 --> 01:21:11,604
to

2226
01:21:12,625 --> 01:21:15,585
see money coming in so we can end

2227
01:21:15,585 --> 01:21:17,765
the year after year after year

2228
01:21:18,864 --> 01:21:20,885
not deep, deep, deep in the red

2229
01:21:21,265 --> 01:21:23,265
just to put out a simple podcast, you

2230
01:21:23,265 --> 01:21:24,725
know, to have that

2231
01:21:25,050 --> 01:21:26,989
elevated to at least break even

2232
01:21:27,609 --> 01:21:29,949
with these Come out even. Yeah.

2233
01:21:31,050 --> 01:21:31,550
So,

2234
01:21:32,170 --> 01:21:35,050
also, you know, like, subscribe, whatever buttons you

2235
01:21:35,050 --> 01:21:38,604
have Yep. On your Share Share, you know,

2236
01:21:38,604 --> 01:21:41,264
our episodes with your friends. Yep. Share it.

2237
01:21:41,965 --> 01:21:43,984
If you are in the biz,

2238
01:21:45,005 --> 01:21:46,304
reach out to us. Info@lordsofmissworldproductions.com.

2239
01:21:49,164 --> 01:21:50,800
Tell us about what you're working on. Tell

2240
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,800
us about something you did. Tell us something

2241
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,479
about what you're doing. Tell us who you

2242
01:21:54,479 --> 01:21:56,079
are, what you are. Maybe we'll have you

2243
01:21:56,079 --> 01:21:57,699
in the show, but we will always,

2244
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,800
always take a serious look at anything that

2245
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:02,979
you send us. Bottom line is

2246
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,979
we have to be able to see it.

2247
01:22:05,395 --> 01:22:06,755
Yes. Right? Like,

2248
01:22:08,354 --> 01:22:09,094
Love Song

2249
01:22:09,554 --> 01:22:10,534
isn't in distribution,

2250
01:22:11,154 --> 01:22:13,715
but it's out there, and they gave us

2251
01:22:13,715 --> 01:22:16,274
a, you know, password to, you know, see

2252
01:22:16,274 --> 01:22:16,774
the

2253
01:22:18,130 --> 01:22:19,109
see the see the movie.

2254
01:22:19,890 --> 01:22:21,010
We need to be able to see it.

2255
01:22:21,010 --> 01:22:21,329
And,

2256
01:22:21,810 --> 01:22:22,310
yeah.

2257
01:22:22,770 --> 01:22:23,270
We'll

2258
01:22:23,649 --> 01:22:24,149
we'll

2259
01:22:24,449 --> 01:22:26,069
talk about it. We'll be honest.

2260
01:22:26,529 --> 01:22:28,369
Well and also on that, you know, we've

2261
01:22:28,369 --> 01:22:31,590
interviewed directors, actors, writers, etcetera.

2262
01:22:32,295 --> 01:22:32,954
We also,

2263
01:22:33,655 --> 01:22:35,494
at one point interviewed someone who is a

2264
01:22:35,494 --> 01:22:38,135
script doctor. Mhmm. So you don't even need

2265
01:22:38,135 --> 01:22:39,494
to be in, you know

2266
01:22:40,454 --> 01:22:42,534
You don't need to be making movies. Right.

2267
01:22:42,534 --> 01:22:44,775
You could be peripherally involved. We will talk

2268
01:22:44,775 --> 01:22:46,875
to musicians. We will talk to composers.

2269
01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:49,659
Because at there's just everything going on. At

2270
01:22:49,659 --> 01:22:52,380
any level, if you're, like, hardcore indie, like,

2271
01:22:52,380 --> 01:22:53,279
it's just you

2272
01:22:53,659 --> 01:22:55,659
Yeah. And that's all you've got. Or if

2273
01:22:55,659 --> 01:22:58,380
you're, you know, in Hollywood Yeah. And you're

2274
01:22:58,380 --> 01:22:59,979
in the b movie circuit. You know? Are

2275
01:22:59,979 --> 01:23:02,800
you a CGI artist? You know? Are you?

2276
01:23:03,765 --> 01:23:06,324
We're interested in talking to everybody who does

2277
01:23:06,324 --> 01:23:08,664
any one of the million moving parts

2278
01:23:09,524 --> 01:23:11,944
of filmmaking. Because we love movies.

2279
01:23:12,404 --> 01:23:13,864
Yes. We just love them.

2280
01:23:14,484 --> 01:23:14,725
And

2281
01:23:15,409 --> 01:23:17,250
And I love learning more about them, and

2282
01:23:17,250 --> 01:23:18,930
you love learning more about them. And we

2283
01:23:18,930 --> 01:23:20,930
do this podcast so that everybody can learn

2284
01:23:20,930 --> 01:23:22,229
more about them. Yeah.

2285
01:23:22,770 --> 01:23:26,070
So So hit those hit those Patreon marks,

2286
01:23:26,210 --> 01:23:26,710
please.

2287
01:23:27,649 --> 01:23:29,510
Website, lords of misworldproductions.com.

2288
01:23:31,215 --> 01:23:33,715
Patreon links are there. Our web,

2289
01:23:34,574 --> 01:23:36,274
podcast episodes are there.

2290
01:23:36,574 --> 01:23:37,795
We are on

2291
01:23:38,175 --> 01:23:39,234
Apple, Spotify,

2292
01:23:39,695 --> 01:23:41,935
blah blah blah blah. All the regular ones?

2293
01:23:41,935 --> 01:23:44,114
Most of the one there's a couple, like,

2294
01:23:45,699 --> 01:23:46,840
that I don't know.

2295
01:23:47,219 --> 01:23:48,840
Like, I think it was Deezer

2296
01:23:49,300 --> 01:23:51,619
I couldn't get back on because they have

2297
01:23:51,619 --> 01:23:54,119
this whole thing going on now. But, anyway,

2298
01:23:54,340 --> 01:23:56,179
we're out there. If you can't find us

2299
01:23:56,179 --> 01:23:56,679
anywhere,

2300
01:23:57,694 --> 01:23:58,515
it's on the website.

2301
01:23:59,935 --> 01:24:02,755
And bottom line is you join Patreon.

2302
01:24:03,135 --> 01:24:05,375
Just just have a log in to Patreon.

2303
01:24:05,375 --> 01:24:06,835
You don't have to become a patron.

2304
01:24:07,215 --> 01:24:08,194
All of our episodes

2305
01:24:08,734 --> 01:24:11,454
are on our Patreon page Mhmm. And available

2306
01:24:11,454 --> 01:24:12,595
to anybody and everybody.

2307
01:24:13,739 --> 01:24:16,859
Right? So there it is. But we appreciate

2308
01:24:16,859 --> 01:24:17,599
you're listening.

2309
01:24:18,219 --> 01:24:20,079
We really do. And,

2310
01:24:21,179 --> 01:24:22,800
yeah, just, you know,

2311
01:24:24,139 --> 01:24:25,520
give us some money, man.

2312
01:24:27,954 --> 01:24:29,715
Because we're here. Support the show so we

2313
01:24:29,715 --> 01:24:31,074
can continue to do it. Yeah. We're not

2314
01:24:31,074 --> 01:24:32,755
looking for a lifestyle. We're doing this because

2315
01:24:32,755 --> 01:24:34,194
we wanna help support indie film. We wanna

2316
01:24:34,194 --> 01:24:36,034
help support d movies. We wanna help support

2317
01:24:36,034 --> 01:24:36,534
movies

2318
01:24:37,395 --> 01:24:37,895
and,

2319
01:24:38,274 --> 01:24:38,854
you know,

2320
01:24:40,930 --> 01:24:41,909
everyone involved.

2321
01:24:42,530 --> 01:24:43,030
So

2322
01:24:44,210 --> 01:24:46,449
go watch I Am Raige. Yes. Check out

2323
01:24:46,449 --> 01:24:48,689
our Patreon. What what is it on? I

2324
01:24:48,689 --> 01:24:49,810
forgot to write it down. What do we

2325
01:24:49,810 --> 01:24:52,869
watch it on? What's it? Tubi. Tubi. Mhmm.

2326
01:24:53,475 --> 01:24:53,975
Okay.

2327
01:24:54,914 --> 01:24:56,295
So, presently, it's on Tubi.

2328
01:24:57,314 --> 01:25:00,114
It's also available for rent on Amazon. On

2329
01:25:00,114 --> 01:25:02,614
Amazon. Yes. And you can buy it probably

2330
01:25:02,675 --> 01:25:04,454
anywhere, really. Yeah.

2331
01:25:05,569 --> 01:25:06,869
Yeah. So it's out

2332
01:25:07,970 --> 01:25:08,789
there. Alright.

2333
01:25:09,170 --> 01:25:10,710
Until next time. Besiders.

2334
01:25:12,130 --> 01:25:13,189
Thank you for listening.

2335
01:25:14,289 --> 01:25:16,390
We'll talk to you soon. Bye.