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Hey, b siders.

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We're back.

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Hello. Hello. And welcome back to Bravo for

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the b side. This is Danny. And this

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is Jim. And it's been a while.

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It has been a long while. Yeah. Like,

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crazy.

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Yeah. An an enormous amount of time, much

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more than we originally intended.

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But a lot of things have changed since

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we last recorded. Yes. For example, we now

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live in the middle of nowhere.

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Yeah. Literally in a cabin.

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Log cabin. A log cabin in the woods.

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Yeah. Not a fake one. Like secret serial

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killers. Yeah. Murder cat. Murder house. Murder house.

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Yeah. And we have about 17,000,000,000

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cats.

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Yeah. Anadago.

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Yep. We have a dog.

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Supposed to be Lily's dog, but

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he's my dog. He's more your dog.

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English bull terrier.

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Adorable. Named Husker.

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Because he's a husky boy. And, yeah, we've

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we'll we'll get into the cat situation

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later on. Let's let's keep that as,

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you know.

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And it feels great to be recording again

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in our brand new studio

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Yes. In the basement

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Yes. Cabin.

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Our much more spacious home office. Yes.

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I think we talked about before, folks. If

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you remember b siders, we were in a

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space, which was our,

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work from home office and our podcast recording.

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So it's the size of a j l

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cell. Yeah. But now we're it's, like, 16

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It's huge. We have comfy chairs. We have

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comfy recliner chairs that we can record in.

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thought I would, like, pull my knees up

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so I could sit in sideways in the

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chair like I like to. Mhmm. And then

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I totally forgot about it. So I can't

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do it now. Otherwise, you'll hear all my

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I'll I'll I'll save you from that. Maybe

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we'll take a break.

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yeah. It has

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been too long. It's been 2 years. Yeah.

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We didn't anticipate it, but, you know, life

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is like a the short break was just

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more and more things happening, and,

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well, here we are. But we are back.

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And better than ever, please. Absolutely.

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couple changes,

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we're not gonna be doing it weekly.

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This will be a biweekly podcast,

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just simply because time. And there's just so

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much going on. Yes.

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what we need to do for right now,

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and we will, you know,

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look at going going back to weekly. But

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right now, it'll be every 2 weeks.

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we're we're pushing for everybody to hit the

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links will be available in the description,

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addresses for our website, links to our Patreon.

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We have a Patreon for the production company.

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But more importantly, we have a Patreon for

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the podcast, which we've always had. Yes.

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We brought it back up.

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bottom line is this bad boy needs to

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pay for itself. Not gonna lie. Just comes

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down to that. As much as we love

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with all the time and work we put

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and the money it costs to, you know,

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not do a, I'm sitting in my car

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kind of thing. Well, that's that's the trouble,

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isn't it? That we have we have put

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a lot of money and effort and time

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and work into making this podcast sound as

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good as it does, and I think it

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sounds pretty good. I think so. But at

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a very bare minimum, we need to be

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in in at a zero

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loss for the year instead of at a,

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you know, in the red Yes. Which is

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where we have been previously. So That that

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is true. So, yeah, head to the Patreon.

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You know, let's keep this thing alive. And,

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you know, the whether we do it biweekly

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or weekly or 5 times a week, the

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host all the costs

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are pretty much the same. If we did

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cost even more. But

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this is the way it is. Space. Hosting

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space. But Yeah. So, anyway,

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that's kind of the thing. So I'm telling

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you right now, this is every beginning of

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Hit the Patreon.

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join up. $5 a month, folks. That is

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put the benefits on there.

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a week early

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because we're going to do these as we

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Ladies and gentlemen, we never missed a week.

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Yeah. That's true. You got sick a couple

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times. Yeah. I pounded through it alone. I

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was sick one time doing it alone, but

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we always got them out. We took a

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week long vacation,

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didn't miss a beat. And that's what we're

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we're gonna be talking about movies.

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Yes. B movies,

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independent film.

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So if you are new to Bravo for

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the b side, what we do,

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as we watch b movies, we dissect them,

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and we talk about what you can learn

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list movies aren't always great,

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and there's really not a lot of lessons

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unless you wanna be like an a lister

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pseudo artsy Hollywood type person.

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get the freedom, and independent film,

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absolute freedom.

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bang for your buck Yes. As far as

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filmmaking goes. Because you have no bucks. It's

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So we have a wonderful independent film we're

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gonna kick into in a little bit here

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absolutely for sure. Yes. A lot of our

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friends when we were, you know, podcasting before

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before we before we took our break,

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the show, but now we're gonna get to.

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it works out because because nobody has missed

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Share. Let everyone know what's going on. Like,

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you know, the podcast is back. Particularly folks,

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independent film,

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it any way, shape, or form. What Do

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you like movies? Do you make movies? Do

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you wanna make movies? Do you write movies?

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I mean, that's kind of it. Right? Yeah.

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share this. This is for everybody. And, like

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we believe the best lessons

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that were the biggest struggles to make. Yeah.

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This independent film has no money.

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The the b movies had limited money.

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some of the stuff we've seen before we

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and a lot of it is going to

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be stuff we haven't seen and maybe we

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won't like. But you know what?

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Every movie has a lesson.

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That's our lie, and we're here to share

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them with you. It is. And we just

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we love movies. We love them so, so

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much. Oh, yeah. And there would not be

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the big blockbuster movies, the huge budget movies

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independent films. Right. Well,

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how about How about you tell us about

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this movie? I talk about what we're gonna

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talk about. Yeah. Alright.

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Give me the stats. See, that's independent film

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independent film sound effects. Could fully work.

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me something real quick.

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So I didn't know this. Okay. Alright? I

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have been a Star Trek fan all my

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Knew all kinds of stuff about it. Roddenberry

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and behind the scenes and things. But I

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opening of the original series when the Enterprise

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goes by the screen, it goes

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and fought and fought to find the right

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finally got so pissed off that he walked

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into a recording booth, grabbed the microphone, hit

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the switch, and went

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that's that's it. That is him.

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Amazing. I know.

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See?

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It's the little things that matter. Anyway,

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this week,

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we are talking about a movie

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that we we longed

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to see,

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and,

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it's wonderful. So we're gonna be talking about

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the love song of William h Shaw

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done in 2023,

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directed by Cliff Campbell and Marty Cottola,

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also written by Cliff Campbell and Marty Cottola.

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Good guys. I know.

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And, you know, old b siders, you know

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who we're talking about.

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Starring Bradford Trojan, Eric Schumacher, Nathan Campbell, Rachel

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Netherton,

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Christina Pflueger, Julie Schaeffer, Sarah Jackson, Olivia Blake,

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and last

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but not least,

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Jeffrey Notkin. That's right.

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Did you hear me? Our boy, Jeff. Yeah.

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Rated r language.

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The budget on this was roughly

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around 30,000,

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and the

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log line is simply

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Billy Shaw is haunted by frenzy one last

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time in an attempt to reunite

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estranged John and Pete.

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Now you might be wondering, who are John

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and Pete? Well,

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so Love Song of William h Shaw is

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the 3rd

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film,

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3rd frenzy film,

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following

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Billy, John, and Pete on their journey from

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turning a comic book into a movie,

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into a franchise,

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and all the things that came with it.

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Yes. So we had Finding Frenzy.

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I can't remember when that date was.

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It's a long time ago. It's like 2010,

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2012.

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I believe so. I don't have our spreadsheets

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up right now with Yeah. With all that

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stuff.

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Anyway, so here's the thing. This is gonna

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be a bit of a well Mhmm. We

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don't really do spoiler free. We're gonna talk

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about this, but we are not going to

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go into the ending

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because This movie is not in distribution yet.

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Not yet. It has been doing the circuits

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for the film festivals

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and everything.

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They're still working on distribution.

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So like we did with fried berry,

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we're going to skip, like, the whole end

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bit. But when we get to the end,

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we'll talk about some

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some things you'll you'll find out. You just

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gotta wait and see.

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I'll also

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put out a little disclaimer.

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This movie might be a little confusing if

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you have not seen the other 2 frenzy

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films.

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Yes.

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I'm trying to think both of them. I

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thought we're on Tubi.

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Love Song is not on any platform yet.

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Hence, again, they're doing we're gonna distribution.

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But we did get

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we saw this last year Mhmm. When they

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completed the final edit. They had a watch

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party for everyone, and we got invited. We

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were so thrilled. We love these guys so

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much. They have been so good to us.

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And, you know, go back in the episodes,

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folks. We've got interviews with them.

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It's just so much fun. They're so magnificent.

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And they make a damn good movie.

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Thank you. That's the other thing.

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So let's see. What else can what else

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is there to say? Yeah. We're not gonna

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reveal the ending.

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We will, you know, talk about the rest

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of it because it is just a lot

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of fun.

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And we'll put in the notes,

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links to the first two films if they're

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available online. I know at the very least,

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the second one, Revenge of the Zooey, is

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available online.

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Finding frenzy might be difficult. Yeah. Revenge of

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Zooey, last time I watched it was on

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Tubi. Mhmm.

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Yeah.

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So we'll see.

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Alright. Would you, my dear,

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like to bring us into this movie?

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Let's do it. Alright.

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I don't have the soundboard stuff hooked up

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yet, so this is what you get, folks.

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We get our own personal Foley effects. You're

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welcome.

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So we start out,

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on an AA meeting,

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and we have

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our friend Billy, who we've seen in the

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first two films of this trilogy.

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Interestingly,

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this hasn't happened in the other movies, but

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Billy is breaking the 4th wall Yes. In

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this AA meeting,

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commenting on the fellow who is telling his

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story,

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you know, in this AA group,

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and he's not being very nice. No.

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He gets chastised

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by the woman sitting next to him,

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who is his girlfriend.

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Mhmm.

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And he kind

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of breaks into this a like, he stands

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up and starts talking about

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his sobriety

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how difficult it's been.

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And,

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how difficult it's been for him, for, you

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know, his sponsors to have relapsed,

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2 of them have died.

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Oh god. Yeah. Well, he he does that

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whole yeah. I've got 2 years. Anyone else

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here have 2 years? Oh, yeah. That wasn't

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easy. Anyone else here have a sponsor die

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on you? Yeah. I did twice.

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Yeah.

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Billy's a real pill.

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He also makes sure to call out his

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girlfriend, Katie, who is obviously

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not pleased about the whole situation.

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So he decided to be his own sponsor,

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and he's congratulating himself

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on his 2 years sober.

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Yeah.

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And he's giving,

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the I don't know what they call them

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in AA groups, but the the person who's

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sort of the moderator of the group.

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Yeah. I don't know. I just the moderator?

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Yeah.

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He's given that guy a hard time. And,

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eventually, Katie's like, okay.

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That's enough public time for you, Billy.

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We're gonna go home.

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So then we're in another house. And my

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notes are weird here because I

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I was trying to write this as though

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we were kind of watching movie we hadn't

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seen before, you know, without character names and

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stuff.

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And then

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so bear with me on my weird notes.

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Same here. Yeah.

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So we've got

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John working on his laptop.

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His wife asks him, what's going on, Jen?

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And he's been working on another script

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because he they've successfully sold scripts before. They've

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had movies made before. They've they're having money

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problems.

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And he's complaining about his friend, Pete. John

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and Pete are not getting along.

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Right.

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Well, Pete wrote a bestseller. Yes.

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And they

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we didn't see this

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in the last one. It's in between the

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films.

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They had a rift. Yes. Pete's off with

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his own comic book shop. He's doing gangbusters.

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Yeah. And John's like, you know, we're going

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broke.

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Yes. In in what was previously John and

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Pete's comic book shop. So

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John and Jen are discussing the success of

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the frenzy movie and how, like, that was

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where everything broke bad

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after that.

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So,

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let me cut to the, original comic book

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shop,

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which is John's now.

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And,

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gentleman behind the counter, none other than our

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mister Jeff Notkin,

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is talking with John. There's a woman upset

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that they didn't get a comic in that

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she had been waiting for, and I just

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I put it here in all caps, stop.

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Raise the screen folks because

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there it is.

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Our podcast logo. Our logo. They have this

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giant sign,

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bravo for the b side podcast. It's the

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same thing as the thumbnail that you see,

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only a little bigger Yeah. Wider.

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They asked us

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if they could put it in the movie,

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and we were like,

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who asks that kind of question?

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Of course,

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you can. Of course. But And that is

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a fantastic lovely thing that you can do

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as an independent filmmaker

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is give shout outs to your friends. Yes.

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You know?

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So sorry to break the momentum, but I'm

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still very proud of that. And we had

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to keep it quiet

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for so long.

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Yes. So long. I have a cell phone.

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I had that picture on my desktop.

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I open it up every now and again

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because they took a picture of it on

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the wall. I'm like Yeah.

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Like a little kid.

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So, anyway, there's our our logo on the

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wall behind them. Adam, Jeff Notkin's character,

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mollifies her with another rare comic,

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But she says she is going to go

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to Pete's and see if he has the

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one that she was looking for.

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John's face doesn't look very pleased.

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So now we're at Pete's comic shop, and

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this one's wildly different.

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It reminded me of neither one of these

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are,

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what should we say, Hollywoodized

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comic book shops. I was thinking like Big

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Bang Theory. Right. We have Stewart's comic book

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shop. It was fairly traditional.

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A lot of the gitchy gimmicky collectible stuff.

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And then there was that one in that

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one episode where Bernadette had to go to

525
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replace a comic. Yeah. Like Stewart's mortal enemy.

526
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Yeah. And this thing was

527
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it was so bougie. It was sad. I

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mean, oh, man.

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So John's comic book shop is as

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flat pure shop as you can get. Right?

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There's some artwork on the walls. Right. They

532
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got some figures and stuff, but it's just

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boxes and boxes and boxes and boxes of

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comics. Yeah. The white boxes. Yeah. Now we

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go to to Pete's,

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still white boxes, but it's a little newer

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looking, a little fresher

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looking.

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Yeah.

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So as we're there,

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he's giving this rousing positivity

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speech to his accountant.

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Phone rings and employee picks it up. Peace

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Comics, if you don't have it or if

545
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we don't have it,

546
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you don't need it. I love that line.

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It's somebody that wants a frenzy comic, and

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we find out that,

549
00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:02,099
John's assistant

550
00:21:06,664 --> 00:21:09,325
sold the comic series that the woman

551
00:21:09,784 --> 00:21:10,605
at John's

552
00:21:11,304 --> 00:21:12,684
comic book that we saw,

553
00:21:13,464 --> 00:21:14,444
that she wanted,

554
00:21:14,825 --> 00:21:16,044
sold it to Pete

555
00:21:16,424 --> 00:21:19,384
and for cheap. Directly to Pete. Directly to

556
00:21:19,384 --> 00:21:20,444
Pete. Yeah.

557
00:21:21,980 --> 00:21:24,619
Yeah. That's the thing. Yeah. So we cut

558
00:21:24,619 --> 00:21:27,359
to John airing his frustration with his assistant,

559
00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:28,000
Adam.

560
00:21:28,700 --> 00:21:31,359
It's a fruitless effort. Adam is just

561
00:21:31,820 --> 00:21:32,720
I love him.

562
00:21:33,340 --> 00:21:35,105
I mean, I love all these characters. But

563
00:21:35,305 --> 00:21:37,705
Yeah. Adam is just very he's taking it

564
00:21:37,705 --> 00:21:38,205
in,

565
00:21:38,585 --> 00:21:40,845
but you also see the churning

566
00:21:41,305 --> 00:21:43,705
wheel of light and goodness in his heart.

567
00:21:43,705 --> 00:21:45,085
And he's just like, you know,

568
00:21:45,625 --> 00:21:46,125
what?

569
00:21:46,904 --> 00:21:48,984
I love the character of Adam. He's so

570
00:21:48,984 --> 00:21:50,125
incredibly weird.

571
00:21:51,890 --> 00:21:54,210
He's just, you know He he just doesn't

572
00:21:54,210 --> 00:21:57,029
grasp the the depth of John's woe.

573
00:21:57,890 --> 00:21:59,650
But he's also like, well, I I okay.

574
00:21:59,650 --> 00:22:01,730
I get what you're saying. But, however, you

575
00:22:01,730 --> 00:22:04,309
know, we're alive, and today's another day

576
00:22:04,849 --> 00:22:05,829
kind of thing.

577
00:22:08,485 --> 00:22:10,404
Then we come back back to Pete's, and

578
00:22:10,404 --> 00:22:12,325
he's talking about how he's not at all

579
00:22:12,325 --> 00:22:12,825
sorry

580
00:22:13,684 --> 00:22:15,144
about this whole comic thing.

581
00:22:16,644 --> 00:22:18,164
And, you know, it and it's really does

582
00:22:18,164 --> 00:22:20,164
seem that he and John are clearly deeply

583
00:22:20,164 --> 00:22:22,299
at odds with with one another, because this

584
00:22:22,299 --> 00:22:25,339
is die eventually opposed to their conversations even

585
00:22:25,339 --> 00:22:26,320
when they would argue.

586
00:22:27,259 --> 00:22:27,759
Right?

587
00:22:28,619 --> 00:22:30,619
I mean, that seems like something very serious

588
00:22:30,619 --> 00:22:32,940
has happened and that it is it is

589
00:22:32,940 --> 00:22:33,440
irreparable.

590
00:22:33,900 --> 00:22:36,684
Yeah. It's it it's sad. It's like watching

591
00:22:36,684 --> 00:22:38,144
the aftermath of a divorce

592
00:22:38,765 --> 00:22:40,065
of of yeah.

593
00:22:41,005 --> 00:22:41,505
Okay.

594
00:22:41,884 --> 00:22:44,525
So a woman comes in. It's Pete's wife,

595
00:22:44,525 --> 00:22:45,025
Mona.

596
00:22:45,724 --> 00:22:47,565
She invites Pete to knock off early to

597
00:22:47,565 --> 00:22:49,919
grab some tacos on the way home. And

598
00:22:49,919 --> 00:22:52,559
as other employees come out, they give over

599
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,740
on on Pete's happenings with John.

600
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:56,740
One employee

601
00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,899
is Mona's brother, Earl.

602
00:23:01,534 --> 00:23:03,075
They all rat him out,

603
00:23:03,615 --> 00:23:06,734
meaning Pete, and Mona is not pleased. So

604
00:23:06,734 --> 00:23:08,274
she leaves without Pete,

605
00:23:08,734 --> 00:23:10,434
and Pete kicks out the staff.

606
00:23:11,615 --> 00:23:13,214
Oh, yeah. I guess that's how you run

607
00:23:13,214 --> 00:23:14,515
a store. But it is Pete.

608
00:23:15,259 --> 00:23:16,000
Love him,

609
00:23:17,419 --> 00:23:17,919
but

610
00:23:19,980 --> 00:23:22,480
he's Pete. Yeah. But he has great shirts.

611
00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:24,779
He does. And can I just pause for

612
00:23:24,779 --> 00:23:25,759
a second? Sure.

613
00:23:26,539 --> 00:23:28,940
So Pete is played by Nathan Campbell. Love

614
00:23:28,940 --> 00:23:29,440
Nathan,

615
00:23:30,695 --> 00:23:32,075
but he pisses me off.

616
00:23:32,855 --> 00:23:35,174
Like me, he's got long hair. He's got

617
00:23:35,174 --> 00:23:37,654
so much more of it. It's so thick.

618
00:23:37,654 --> 00:23:39,914
Why does everybody have thicker hair than me?

619
00:23:40,855 --> 00:23:43,299
Goddamn it. I every it it it was

620
00:23:43,299 --> 00:23:44,819
almost like a a kick in the nuts

621
00:23:44,819 --> 00:23:46,659
every time he was on screen. Because only

622
00:23:46,659 --> 00:23:47,700
one time does he wear it in a

623
00:23:47,700 --> 00:23:49,559
ponytail. So it's just like bobbing

624
00:23:49,859 --> 00:23:52,819
and moving. Yeah. His You luxurious hair. You

625
00:23:52,819 --> 00:23:53,960
thick hair, bitch.

626
00:23:54,414 --> 00:23:56,974
You know? Sorry, Nate. We do love you

627
00:23:57,214 --> 00:23:58,674
We do. And your hair.

628
00:23:59,615 --> 00:24:01,615
And I'll talk to Jim privately about making

629
00:24:01,615 --> 00:24:03,775
his hair thicker. I'm not making my hair

630
00:24:03,775 --> 00:24:04,275
thicker.

631
00:24:05,775 --> 00:24:08,670
It's it's it's doing what it's doing. Anyway,

632
00:24:08,830 --> 00:24:11,809
so We're circling back to Billy and Katie.

633
00:24:13,070 --> 00:24:13,470
Yeah.

634
00:24:14,269 --> 00:24:16,509
So, anyway, the employees all take turns yelling

635
00:24:16,509 --> 00:24:18,190
at him as they're going out the back

636
00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:20,369
door, and it's great. Yes.

637
00:24:21,184 --> 00:24:23,045
So we circle back to Billy and Katie,

638
00:24:23,744 --> 00:24:25,525
and Billy is upset

639
00:24:26,304 --> 00:24:28,404
that his friends, Pete and John,

640
00:24:29,025 --> 00:24:30,565
didn't show up at his sobriety

641
00:24:30,865 --> 00:24:31,365
ceremony.

642
00:24:34,849 --> 00:24:36,849
She suggests that he should go see them

643
00:24:36,849 --> 00:24:37,509
at Tuscon.

644
00:24:38,450 --> 00:24:39,429
And Billy

645
00:24:40,210 --> 00:24:41,190
says that he

646
00:24:41,569 --> 00:24:43,970
he hates crowds and people, and I love

647
00:24:43,970 --> 00:24:45,730
this line, any more than 2 people, and

648
00:24:45,730 --> 00:24:47,509
he's the asshole, which is true.

649
00:24:48,285 --> 00:24:50,305
2 or more people, and I'm the asshole.

650
00:24:50,445 --> 00:24:53,424
Yeah. So he he's pretty against this.

651
00:24:54,924 --> 00:24:55,424
Sorry.

652
00:24:57,085 --> 00:24:59,085
Are you okay? It's you know, it's just

653
00:24:59,085 --> 00:25:01,565
so funny. It's just that his, like, glaring

654
00:25:01,565 --> 00:25:03,299
moments of just self actualization

655
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:04,740
are just so

656
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:06,080
they tickle me. I

657
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960
Well, he yeah. In the face he has,

658
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,099
he says it.

659
00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:13,059
He's so incredibly self aware. Yes.

660
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:16,464
And it's At this point Yeah. Yeah. Well,

661
00:25:16,464 --> 00:25:17,865
I feel like he was before in the

662
00:25:17,865 --> 00:25:19,544
other two movies as well. Like, he was

663
00:25:19,544 --> 00:25:21,325
very self aware, but it just didn't

664
00:25:21,784 --> 00:25:24,664
bother him. Oh, no. No. Maybe we'll discuss

665
00:25:24,664 --> 00:25:26,044
that. Okay. Okay.

666
00:25:27,625 --> 00:25:29,724
So they're at their house, and Katie's

667
00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:31,099
making tacos

668
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,140
while Billy's smoking weed and sculpting clay.

669
00:25:35,319 --> 00:25:36,920
And I I do have to say here,

670
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,400
I I'm realizing watching this as Katie cuts

671
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:39,900
tomatoes

672
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,680
and pushes them through the hole in the

673
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:43,579
cutting board.

674
00:25:44,705 --> 00:25:46,085
That's a brilliant idea.

675
00:25:48,384 --> 00:25:49,605
And that's in my notes.

676
00:25:49,984 --> 00:25:52,384
That was distracting me. I was like, my

677
00:25:52,384 --> 00:25:52,884
god.

678
00:25:53,424 --> 00:25:54,565
That's so smart.

679
00:25:55,105 --> 00:25:57,265
You should've shared that with me yesterday when

680
00:25:57,265 --> 00:25:59,380
I was cutting tomatoes for the sandwiches. Were

681
00:25:59,380 --> 00:26:00,759
you using a cutting board?

682
00:26:01,380 --> 00:26:03,299
Well, no. I was using them. Yeah. And

683
00:26:03,299 --> 00:26:06,039
she was, like, dicing them. Oh. Yeah.

684
00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:08,119
So smart.

685
00:26:09,059 --> 00:26:09,559
Anyway,

686
00:26:11,059 --> 00:26:12,659
so she goes to Billy and do do

687
00:26:12,659 --> 00:26:15,000
this kind of homage to the movie Ghost,

688
00:26:16,714 --> 00:26:18,634
which if you didn't grow up in the

689
00:26:18,634 --> 00:26:19,134
nineties,

690
00:26:20,554 --> 00:26:22,154
it it might be lost on you, but,

691
00:26:22,634 --> 00:26:24,255
you should watch the movie Ghost.

692
00:26:24,794 --> 00:26:26,335
It's kind of a wild ride.

693
00:26:29,529 --> 00:26:30,429
Oh, man.

694
00:26:31,289 --> 00:26:31,789
So

695
00:26:32,089 --> 00:26:33,869
as she's doing this, Billy

696
00:26:36,009 --> 00:26:36,990
sees her

697
00:26:37,609 --> 00:26:38,109
as,

698
00:26:39,609 --> 00:26:40,109
Zoe

699
00:26:40,904 --> 00:26:41,565
or Frenzy.

700
00:26:43,865 --> 00:26:46,424
However you wanna Well, I mean, she's frenzy

701
00:26:46,424 --> 00:26:48,664
in the outfit and, I guess, Zoe

702
00:26:49,384 --> 00:26:52,599
even though he continuously calls her Zoe. Yeah.

703
00:26:52,599 --> 00:26:55,500
The frenzy is her space Her superhero. Superhero

704
00:26:55,559 --> 00:26:58,220
thing, and Zoe is the the secret identity.

705
00:26:58,759 --> 00:27:01,500
Right. Her Clark Kent Yeah. Sort of situation.

706
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:02,220
Yeah.

707
00:27:03,559 --> 00:27:05,500
And he wigs out for a little bit,

708
00:27:05,815 --> 00:27:08,394
but then things kinda go back to normal.

709
00:27:08,855 --> 00:27:11,195
But that night, Zoe appears to him again,

710
00:27:11,815 --> 00:27:12,315
and

711
00:27:13,174 --> 00:27:13,674
she

712
00:27:14,695 --> 00:27:15,914
never speaks aloud

713
00:27:16,375 --> 00:27:18,480
for at least most of the movie. But

714
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,759
say he wants to know what she wants,

715
00:27:19,759 --> 00:27:22,339
and she just kinda whispers to him.

716
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:25,920
And he makes the comment that, well, a

717
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,220
sequel would be easier

718
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,960
talking about their movies. Right. So we don't

719
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:32,805
know exactly what she's asked him.

720
00:27:33,684 --> 00:27:35,144
Apparently, it's gonna be difficult.

721
00:27:37,045 --> 00:27:37,545
Yes.

722
00:27:38,325 --> 00:27:40,025
So now we're with

723
00:27:40,805 --> 00:27:41,545
the girls.

724
00:27:42,164 --> 00:27:43,924
And I I wanna give a shout out

725
00:27:43,924 --> 00:27:45,384
to the women of this movie

726
00:27:46,210 --> 00:27:46,710
because

727
00:27:47,090 --> 00:27:48,150
they're all amazing.

728
00:27:48,769 --> 00:27:51,350
They they are. And just a a note,

729
00:27:51,730 --> 00:27:53,490
before the break, we had it all planned

730
00:27:53,490 --> 00:27:55,330
out. We we talked with the guys. I

731
00:27:55,330 --> 00:27:57,890
know. And with this one, we wanted to

732
00:27:57,890 --> 00:28:00,630
get all the ladies on and just them

733
00:28:01,285 --> 00:28:02,585
as as a group interview.

734
00:28:03,285 --> 00:28:05,224
Yeah. And, hopefully, we can still

735
00:28:05,684 --> 00:28:08,424
wrangle that because these women are brilliant.

736
00:28:09,125 --> 00:28:09,625
Oh,

737
00:28:10,085 --> 00:28:12,805
they're wonderful. And they're all so different and

738
00:28:12,805 --> 00:28:15,945
fantastic and how it's just love them.

739
00:28:17,609 --> 00:28:19,930
So they're talking about the beef between the

740
00:28:19,930 --> 00:28:20,430
boys.

741
00:28:24,170 --> 00:28:24,670
Mona

742
00:28:25,690 --> 00:28:27,930
says, you know, like, oh, well, you know,

743
00:28:27,930 --> 00:28:29,470
he got the better of John.

744
00:28:30,090 --> 00:28:30,830
And then

745
00:28:31,345 --> 00:28:32,705
it starts a little bit of an argument

746
00:28:32,705 --> 00:28:33,924
between Mona and

747
00:28:34,225 --> 00:28:35,205
Jen. Mhmm.

748
00:28:35,745 --> 00:28:38,384
And then Katie comes in smoothly and just

749
00:28:38,384 --> 00:28:39,924
kinda changes the subject.

750
00:28:40,945 --> 00:28:41,924
With salsa.

751
00:28:42,384 --> 00:28:42,884
Salsa.

752
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,220
You can solve any problem with salsa.

753
00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480
Oh, and she has a good line. Do

754
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,019
you have the line? I don't.

755
00:28:52,319 --> 00:28:53,519
She can't well, I don't have it word

756
00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:55,039
for word, but I I noted it. So

757
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:56,259
she comes in with the salsa.

758
00:28:56,605 --> 00:28:57,664
Change the subject

759
00:28:57,964 --> 00:29:00,125
as long as it isn't why men who

760
00:29:00,125 --> 00:29:01,024
get tats

761
00:29:01,884 --> 00:29:03,184
from women tattooists

762
00:29:03,484 --> 00:29:06,044
always get them near their junk. Oh. And

763
00:29:06,044 --> 00:29:07,664
she says it with such

764
00:29:08,125 --> 00:29:10,384
there's such putricity in the thought.

765
00:29:11,005 --> 00:29:11,505
Right.

766
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,019
And I love it.

767
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,480
Well, in the previous movies before Katie is

768
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:16,980
with,

769
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,920
Billy, she's a tattoo artist, and she's still

770
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:22,500
a tattoo artist. Right. But yeah.

771
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:23,539
So

772
00:29:24,575 --> 00:29:26,414
we jumped to Billy, who's got Zoe with

773
00:29:26,414 --> 00:29:27,075
him again.

774
00:29:28,335 --> 00:29:30,335
And he gets a call from John who

775
00:29:30,335 --> 00:29:32,115
apologizes for missing the ceremony.

776
00:29:32,974 --> 00:29:35,295
And Billy kinda asks him about what's going

777
00:29:35,295 --> 00:29:36,674
on between him and Pete

778
00:29:38,589 --> 00:29:40,130
because he doesn't really understand.

779
00:29:40,589 --> 00:29:41,089
Right.

780
00:29:41,869 --> 00:29:43,630
So he tells John that 3 of them

781
00:29:43,630 --> 00:29:45,309
need to talk about how to patch things

782
00:29:45,309 --> 00:29:45,809
up,

783
00:29:46,670 --> 00:29:47,170
and

784
00:29:47,789 --> 00:29:48,930
John is not

785
00:29:49,710 --> 00:29:51,170
super about it.

786
00:29:54,065 --> 00:29:56,065
So he tells Zoe, well, this isn't gonna

787
00:29:56,065 --> 00:29:57,904
be easy. So we know Zoe has told

788
00:29:57,904 --> 00:30:00,304
him, like, you need to patch things up.

789
00:30:00,304 --> 00:30:02,464
Mhmm. And then he tries to let him

790
00:30:02,464 --> 00:30:04,470
join, and she takes it from him,

791
00:30:05,990 --> 00:30:07,849
this figment of his imagination.

792
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:11,130
She's gonna make him go to Tuscon.

793
00:30:14,150 --> 00:30:16,390
And Billy breaks the 4th wall again here

794
00:30:16,390 --> 00:30:18,089
saying that when Frenzie disappeared,

795
00:30:19,195 --> 00:30:21,755
well, that he she disappeared when he stopped

796
00:30:21,755 --> 00:30:22,255
drinking.

797
00:30:22,634 --> 00:30:24,475
Right. When he got sober. Because in the

798
00:30:24,475 --> 00:30:26,494
previous films, he would see

799
00:30:26,955 --> 00:30:27,455
Mhmm.

800
00:30:27,994 --> 00:30:29,134
Her on a binge.

801
00:30:29,515 --> 00:30:30,414
Yes. Yeah.

802
00:30:30,890 --> 00:30:32,190
Well, not just her.

803
00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:33,789
All kinds of stuff.

804
00:30:34,250 --> 00:30:34,750
Yes.

805
00:30:35,370 --> 00:30:38,330
But her also. Mhmm. And so he's kind

806
00:30:38,330 --> 00:30:39,150
of confused

807
00:30:40,570 --> 00:30:41,070
because

808
00:30:42,410 --> 00:30:44,570
he thought that that was associated with his

809
00:30:44,570 --> 00:30:46,684
drinking. Right? Yeah. And

810
00:30:47,865 --> 00:30:50,045
John and Pete know. Nobody else knows.

811
00:30:50,825 --> 00:30:53,545
And he's concerned because if she's showing up

812
00:30:53,545 --> 00:30:55,085
again, like, something is wrong,

813
00:30:56,825 --> 00:30:58,765
super, super wrong. Mhmm.

814
00:30:59,259 --> 00:31:01,119
And he's not he knows

815
00:31:01,579 --> 00:31:03,839
that Tuscon isn't gonna go very well.

816
00:31:04,619 --> 00:31:06,000
Well and if he

817
00:31:06,539 --> 00:31:09,339
says anything Mhmm. They're immediately going to assume

818
00:31:09,339 --> 00:31:11,740
he's he's back on the wagon or off

819
00:31:11,740 --> 00:31:13,839
the wagon again. Right. Right.

820
00:31:14,705 --> 00:31:16,164
So we cut to,

821
00:31:16,705 --> 00:31:18,805
some some nice shots of Tuscon.

822
00:31:21,664 --> 00:31:24,005
And then we have Pete and John outside,

823
00:31:24,224 --> 00:31:26,085
both walking in. Now

824
00:31:27,339 --> 00:31:29,099
they both know that they each have to

825
00:31:29,099 --> 00:31:29,599
go.

826
00:31:30,619 --> 00:31:32,319
Right? Because it's it's Tuscon.

827
00:31:32,940 --> 00:31:35,099
And if folks if you don't know what

828
00:31:35,099 --> 00:31:36,079
Tuscon is,

829
00:31:37,179 --> 00:31:37,919
quick reference,

830
00:31:38,634 --> 00:31:39,375
it is

831
00:31:40,394 --> 00:31:41,535
a Comic Con

832
00:31:42,554 --> 00:31:43,054
and

833
00:31:43,595 --> 00:31:45,054
all things related

834
00:31:45,674 --> 00:31:47,134
in Tucson, Arizona.

835
00:31:47,994 --> 00:31:49,214
It's it's not

836
00:31:49,515 --> 00:31:50,015
massive,

837
00:31:51,049 --> 00:31:53,690
but it's fairly decently sized. Mhmm.

838
00:31:54,490 --> 00:31:56,190
It's awesome. We haven't been,

839
00:31:56,650 --> 00:31:58,569
but we've we've heard, like, Jeff talk about

840
00:31:58,569 --> 00:31:59,069
it.

841
00:31:59,450 --> 00:32:00,829
I would love to go.

842
00:32:01,210 --> 00:32:01,710
We

843
00:32:02,089 --> 00:32:04,670
we will get there. We were invited.

844
00:32:05,255 --> 00:32:07,095
We were invited to go to to to

845
00:32:07,095 --> 00:32:09,495
Tuscon to see the The premiere of this

846
00:32:09,495 --> 00:32:11,195
film. Yeah. The public premiere.

847
00:32:11,654 --> 00:32:14,295
But we were unable to. Right. But next

848
00:32:14,295 --> 00:32:15,434
year, maybe we'll,

849
00:32:16,215 --> 00:32:18,615
get a point. I know our friends will

850
00:32:18,615 --> 00:32:19,275
be there.

851
00:32:19,619 --> 00:32:20,359
Oh, absolutely.

852
00:32:21,460 --> 00:32:22,200
So anyway,

853
00:32:25,299 --> 00:32:26,900
so as they're both walking in, they're giving

854
00:32:26,900 --> 00:32:28,740
each other shit, and it's it's that it's

855
00:32:28,740 --> 00:32:31,380
it's like the sibling thing where one's walking

856
00:32:31,380 --> 00:32:33,240
and then one starts walking a little faster.

857
00:32:33,255 --> 00:32:34,535
It's, like, 3 feet ahead and then one

858
00:32:34,535 --> 00:32:36,295
starts walking a little faster, and then they're,

859
00:32:36,295 --> 00:32:38,934
like, running as they come in. And it's

860
00:32:38,934 --> 00:32:41,095
a race to the floor with lots of

861
00:32:41,095 --> 00:32:41,595
shoving

862
00:32:41,974 --> 00:32:43,115
and and everything.

863
00:32:44,615 --> 00:32:45,335
And he's like

864
00:32:49,130 --> 00:32:51,849
because, you know, let's be honest, folks. There

865
00:32:51,849 --> 00:32:52,990
aren't a lot of,

866
00:32:53,450 --> 00:32:54,190
gym membership,

867
00:32:54,730 --> 00:32:55,549
Uber Fit

868
00:32:56,250 --> 00:32:57,309
comic book people.

869
00:32:57,849 --> 00:33:00,889
I'm speaking as 1. Yeah. I mean shop

870
00:33:00,889 --> 00:33:01,389
owner.

871
00:33:02,244 --> 00:33:04,325
What I really like about the the walk

872
00:33:04,325 --> 00:33:05,144
through Tuscon

873
00:33:06,244 --> 00:33:09,044
is the the style of these films is

874
00:33:09,044 --> 00:33:10,184
very straightforward.

875
00:33:11,365 --> 00:33:13,525
Yeah. Right? There are not an there are

876
00:33:13,525 --> 00:33:16,164
not a lot of super complex shots. You

877
00:33:16,164 --> 00:33:17,704
know, it's very much

878
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:23,119
yeah. It's just straightforward. It's it's it's sort

879
00:33:23,500 --> 00:33:26,559
of Yeah. Good classic framing sort of thing.

880
00:33:26,619 --> 00:33:28,720
Let's roll that to the back end because

881
00:33:28,859 --> 00:33:31,579
there's a whole tube of discussion on that

882
00:33:31,819 --> 00:33:32,954
Okay. This whole thing.

883
00:33:33,515 --> 00:33:35,294
But well, no. I'm just saying we got

884
00:33:35,835 --> 00:33:37,855
way way more to get into on that.

885
00:33:38,075 --> 00:33:39,134
Sure. Yeah.

886
00:33:39,755 --> 00:33:41,674
It makes it easy to watch this happening.

887
00:33:41,674 --> 00:33:42,654
That's the thing.

888
00:33:43,434 --> 00:33:43,934
It

889
00:33:44,234 --> 00:33:46,394
and and and these 2, John and Pete,

890
00:33:46,394 --> 00:33:48,660
the way they're carrying on, just really the

891
00:33:48,660 --> 00:33:50,019
way it shot just kinda makes you feel

892
00:33:50,019 --> 00:33:52,500
like you're there. Mhmm. And just almost almost

893
00:33:52,500 --> 00:33:53,400
makes you go

894
00:33:55,220 --> 00:33:57,140
because we've all been through it, and it

895
00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:58,519
actually makes you feel like,

896
00:33:59,619 --> 00:34:00,440
damn kids.

897
00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:02,840
Stop it.

898
00:34:04,134 --> 00:34:06,075
But as they're doing this,

899
00:34:06,694 --> 00:34:09,034
outside is Billy making his way in

900
00:34:09,414 --> 00:34:12,454
very unhappily. I mean, there's just Bradford is

901
00:34:12,454 --> 00:34:14,554
so good. He is excellent.

902
00:34:16,299 --> 00:34:17,980
He gets in. He gets harassed at the

903
00:34:17,980 --> 00:34:19,920
door for not having a badge.

904
00:34:20,219 --> 00:34:21,039
That conversation

905
00:34:21,739 --> 00:34:22,719
is exceptional.

906
00:34:23,260 --> 00:34:24,799
I'd love to exchange.

907
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:27,119
Ultimately, he buys 1,

908
00:34:27,819 --> 00:34:28,639
very grudgingly,

909
00:34:29,019 --> 00:34:30,299
and he makes his way,

910
00:34:30,965 --> 00:34:32,565
through the floor to find Pete and or

911
00:34:32,565 --> 00:34:33,065
John.

912
00:34:33,525 --> 00:34:35,525
And a woman he bumps into is all

913
00:34:35,525 --> 00:34:38,885
about him and hits on him, like, twice

914
00:34:38,885 --> 00:34:39,385
heavily

915
00:34:39,764 --> 00:34:42,485
in dismay. And it's really cool. She's she's

916
00:34:42,485 --> 00:34:43,144
a cosplayer.

917
00:34:43,605 --> 00:34:44,505
Yes. Right?

918
00:34:45,170 --> 00:34:46,950
And it's kinda one of those things where

919
00:34:47,170 --> 00:34:49,349
it they play on the mist the mysticism

920
00:34:49,410 --> 00:34:50,950
of her her cosplay

921
00:34:51,329 --> 00:34:52,930
because she's like, you know, no. No. No.

922
00:34:52,930 --> 00:34:54,789
No. And also, there she is.

923
00:34:55,489 --> 00:34:57,170
As he turns, it goes a few feet.

924
00:34:57,170 --> 00:34:57,750
You know?

925
00:34:58,130 --> 00:34:58,869
She's magic.

926
00:34:59,170 --> 00:34:59,670
Yeah.

927
00:35:00,125 --> 00:35:01,025
And she's disappointed.

928
00:35:01,964 --> 00:35:03,885
You know? But she does she does not

929
00:35:03,885 --> 00:35:04,385
know

930
00:35:04,764 --> 00:35:07,164
how close she came to saddling up with

931
00:35:07,164 --> 00:35:08,284
the Titanic. So

932
00:35:08,764 --> 00:35:09,744
Oh my god.

933
00:35:10,684 --> 00:35:11,424
Come on.

934
00:35:11,804 --> 00:35:13,744
Billy is not a catch.

935
00:35:16,570 --> 00:35:19,210
He's he's a I don't I don't know.

936
00:35:19,210 --> 00:35:20,829
I mean He tries. He tries.

937
00:35:23,130 --> 00:35:23,630
So

938
00:35:24,170 --> 00:35:24,570
we,

939
00:35:26,010 --> 00:35:26,809
cut to a small,

940
00:35:27,945 --> 00:35:29,144
I don't know what it was. It's not

941
00:35:29,144 --> 00:35:30,125
really a room.

942
00:35:30,985 --> 00:35:32,525
It's kinda like a half room

943
00:35:33,385 --> 00:35:34,664
kind of thing. Anyway, there's a bunch of

944
00:35:34,664 --> 00:35:36,425
people gathered and there's a screen. So we

945
00:35:36,425 --> 00:35:37,244
see an announcement,

946
00:35:38,425 --> 00:35:39,805
being played on the screen

947
00:35:40,539 --> 00:35:42,960
of the future of the frenzy saga.

948
00:35:44,219 --> 00:35:45,920
And this fellow on the screen

949
00:35:46,380 --> 00:35:48,940
starts out saying how wonderful it has been

950
00:35:48,940 --> 00:35:49,599
so far.

951
00:35:50,539 --> 00:35:52,319
And then he announces, frenzy

952
00:35:53,019 --> 00:35:53,519
5.

953
00:35:54,824 --> 00:35:55,324
Yes.

954
00:35:56,105 --> 00:35:57,164
And people are like,

955
00:35:58,184 --> 00:35:58,844
you know.

956
00:35:59,224 --> 00:36:00,605
And then that's it. Show is over.

957
00:36:02,505 --> 00:36:03,005
So,

958
00:36:03,545 --> 00:36:05,164
Billy, at the back of the room,

959
00:36:05,625 --> 00:36:07,864
walks towards the front to the room to

960
00:36:07,864 --> 00:36:08,364
Ira,

961
00:36:08,769 --> 00:36:10,150
his one time manager.

962
00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:11,030
Mhmm.

963
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:14,550
We learn Billy is getting residuals for frenzy

964
00:36:14,690 --> 00:36:15,190
12.

965
00:36:16,130 --> 00:36:18,309
Ira is getting them for 34.

966
00:36:19,650 --> 00:36:21,110
And I just wanna mention,

967
00:36:24,355 --> 00:36:25,655
there are so

968
00:36:26,194 --> 00:36:26,694
many

969
00:36:27,315 --> 00:36:27,815
cameos.

970
00:36:28,275 --> 00:36:29,815
Really good cameos.

971
00:36:30,114 --> 00:36:31,954
I am I'm not gonna list them. I

972
00:36:31,954 --> 00:36:34,514
didn't bother because I I want every that's

973
00:36:34,514 --> 00:36:35,635
one of the things I don't wanna give

974
00:36:35,635 --> 00:36:36,059
away.

975
00:36:36,539 --> 00:36:38,619
But look for the cameos, folks. Well, if

976
00:36:38,619 --> 00:36:40,300
we get to do an interview with the

977
00:36:40,300 --> 00:36:41,739
girls or we get to do an interview

978
00:36:41,739 --> 00:36:43,760
with, you know, our our

979
00:36:44,140 --> 00:36:46,800
Pondo boys or Eric or Jeff or

980
00:36:47,099 --> 00:36:50,355
any of them, you guys can can spoil

981
00:36:50,355 --> 00:36:52,835
all the cameos that you want. Yep. That's

982
00:36:52,835 --> 00:36:55,074
their prerogative. That's right. You know, but we're

983
00:36:55,074 --> 00:36:56,215
trying to keep it clean.

984
00:36:56,675 --> 00:36:58,135
But I just I wanna remind

985
00:36:58,434 --> 00:36:58,934
folks,

986
00:37:00,275 --> 00:37:01,094
Jeff Notkin

987
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,019
was a cameo

988
00:37:06,199 --> 00:37:08,860
in the second film. That's right. Yes.

989
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:09,820
And,

990
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:12,539
yeah. Now he's in.

991
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:14,300
You know, it's it's just wonderful.

992
00:37:14,985 --> 00:37:17,244
So, ultimately, we have John and Pete.

993
00:37:17,545 --> 00:37:19,865
They are stuck at a table together Next

994
00:37:19,865 --> 00:37:23,224
to each other. Doing signatures and meeting the

995
00:37:23,224 --> 00:37:24,605
the group. Mhmm.

996
00:37:26,744 --> 00:37:29,305
Someone asked them if they wrote the first

997
00:37:29,305 --> 00:37:29,805
movie,

998
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:31,980
why weren't they in the credits?

999
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,579
And and then suddenly, Billy shows up,

1000
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,360
and they both say he can explain what

1001
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:40,860
happened.

1002
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,320
And he's just like, oh, yeah. I took

1003
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:44,460
credit for the film.

1004
00:37:47,835 --> 00:37:50,095
It just totally shut them out. Yep.

1005
00:37:51,994 --> 00:37:53,515
And then, there's a couple words, and then

1006
00:37:53,515 --> 00:37:54,894
Pete and John end up in

1007
00:37:55,275 --> 00:37:56,494
a wrestling match.

1008
00:37:56,875 --> 00:37:57,375
Yes.

1009
00:37:58,130 --> 00:38:00,050
And they tell Billy to go to hell

1010
00:38:00,050 --> 00:38:01,650
as he's trying to talk to them through

1011
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:03,349
their wrestling match. Yeah.

1012
00:38:04,289 --> 00:38:06,210
Billy tells us the audience, he's like, I

1013
00:38:06,210 --> 00:38:08,309
think they like treating each other like this.

1014
00:38:09,410 --> 00:38:09,910
Yeah.

1015
00:38:10,944 --> 00:38:12,385
And in the first couple of movies, they

1016
00:38:12,385 --> 00:38:14,144
did seem to have fun fighting with each

1017
00:38:14,144 --> 00:38:16,065
other, John and Pete. It was kind of

1018
00:38:16,065 --> 00:38:17,585
their thing. Yeah. I mean, yeah, it was

1019
00:38:17,585 --> 00:38:20,545
physical, but nobody ever threw a punch. Right.

1020
00:38:20,545 --> 00:38:22,944
It was a slap. Yeah. Yeah. But

1021
00:38:24,469 --> 00:38:24,969
So

1022
00:38:25,349 --> 00:38:27,750
Billy goes back to his car, and Zoey's

1023
00:38:27,750 --> 00:38:30,010
in there in her secret identity costume.

1024
00:38:30,869 --> 00:38:34,089
And he's like, this is pointless. Zoey Zephyr.

1025
00:38:34,630 --> 00:38:35,130
Yeah.

1026
00:38:36,565 --> 00:38:38,505
You know, I kinda wish there were, like,

1027
00:38:38,565 --> 00:38:40,744
real Zoe comics. I would I would

1028
00:38:41,605 --> 00:38:43,224
read them. I would absolutely

1029
00:38:44,485 --> 00:38:45,704
if I had to drive

1030
00:38:46,085 --> 00:38:47,844
Yeah. To get them directly from the dude

1031
00:38:47,844 --> 00:38:49,364
who illustrated it and, you know, put them

1032
00:38:49,364 --> 00:38:51,820
out. Yeah. Yeah. That would be so cool.

1033
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:53,579
Yeah. They look super cute.

1034
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:55,980
So she

1035
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,260
holds a knife to his throat. He's like,

1036
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,340
seriously, I have not been drinking.

1037
00:39:04,855 --> 00:39:06,375
Just a quick note because I put it

1038
00:39:06,375 --> 00:39:07,034
in here.

1039
00:39:08,214 --> 00:39:10,315
She does not speak one

1040
00:39:10,775 --> 00:39:12,074
word out loud

1041
00:39:12,454 --> 00:39:13,914
Right. To this point.

1042
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:17,300
So it's all looks and expressions Mhmm. And

1043
00:39:17,300 --> 00:39:18,119
he's surmising.

1044
00:39:18,739 --> 00:39:19,239
Mhmm.

1045
00:39:19,619 --> 00:39:21,539
This one was not real hard to figure

1046
00:39:21,539 --> 00:39:22,039
out.

1047
00:39:22,420 --> 00:39:22,920
No.

1048
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:26,099
It's pretty clear. And that's something that's really

1049
00:39:26,099 --> 00:39:28,760
great about about the actress who plays Zoe

1050
00:39:29,324 --> 00:39:29,984
is everything

1051
00:39:31,005 --> 00:39:33,425
is very clear even though she doesn't say

1052
00:39:33,724 --> 00:39:34,545
any words.

1053
00:39:34,844 --> 00:39:35,344
Right.

1054
00:39:36,684 --> 00:39:37,184
So

1055
00:39:38,764 --> 00:39:40,864
we are back at John's house,

1056
00:39:41,565 --> 00:39:42,784
and he is

1057
00:39:44,690 --> 00:39:45,909
arguing with Jen.

1058
00:39:47,809 --> 00:39:48,309
They're

1059
00:39:48,849 --> 00:39:50,469
they're trying to have a baby,

1060
00:39:51,089 --> 00:39:52,469
and she's a little frustrated.

1061
00:39:52,849 --> 00:39:54,690
And if you've watched the first couple of

1062
00:39:54,690 --> 00:39:55,190
films,

1063
00:39:55,569 --> 00:39:57,190
John and Jen's sex life

1064
00:39:57,730 --> 00:39:58,869
is really fun.

1065
00:39:59,454 --> 00:40:02,275
It's it's it's it's all about role play.

1066
00:40:02,414 --> 00:40:04,194
Seems like a blast. Yeah.

1067
00:40:06,175 --> 00:40:07,635
But he's preoccupied

1068
00:40:08,655 --> 00:40:09,474
with Pete,

1069
00:40:11,295 --> 00:40:13,775
but she doesn't care that he's preoccupied with

1070
00:40:13,775 --> 00:40:14,275
Pete.

1071
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,579
I'm ovulating. It's happening.

1072
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,400
And then Pete's doing the same thing at

1073
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,059
his house,

1074
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,380
you know, talking about his fight with John,

1075
00:40:29,015 --> 00:40:29,515
and

1076
00:40:29,815 --> 00:40:31,914
Mona is not interested at all.

1077
00:40:33,015 --> 00:40:34,695
I just I love how no one else

1078
00:40:34,695 --> 00:40:36,375
in this movie cares about John and Pete's

1079
00:40:36,375 --> 00:40:37,515
fight. They're just like

1080
00:40:37,815 --> 00:40:38,315
seriously.

1081
00:40:38,855 --> 00:40:39,515
I know.

1082
00:40:39,974 --> 00:40:41,914
It's it's I don't have time for this.

1083
00:40:45,820 --> 00:40:47,900
They hear music start playing, and it's Billy

1084
00:40:47,900 --> 00:40:49,039
outside with,

1085
00:40:49,579 --> 00:40:50,400
a speaker.

1086
00:40:51,420 --> 00:40:52,480
So, folks,

1087
00:40:53,579 --> 00:40:55,099
this is it's not a it's not a

1088
00:40:55,099 --> 00:40:55,599
cameo.

1089
00:40:56,255 --> 00:40:58,675
No. But it's an homage? It's an homage.

1090
00:41:00,574 --> 00:41:02,994
He's out there like Lloyd Dobler.

1091
00:41:04,335 --> 00:41:05,875
Instead of a big boom mocks,

1092
00:41:06,255 --> 00:41:08,275
it's a tiny Bluetooth speaker.

1093
00:41:12,070 --> 00:41:14,570
It's making sound, but it absolutely

1094
00:41:16,150 --> 00:41:17,289
Yeah. Yeah.

1095
00:41:17,670 --> 00:41:20,150
From from the time say anything was made

1096
00:41:20,150 --> 00:41:20,889
till now,

1097
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:23,530
a lot has changed, but it was beautiful.

1098
00:41:24,025 --> 00:41:24,764
That's wonderful.

1099
00:41:26,105 --> 00:41:28,025
And he kinda lays it all bare for

1100
00:41:28,025 --> 00:41:28,764
Pete here.

1101
00:41:29,704 --> 00:41:31,804
You know, like, saying Zoe's back.

1102
00:41:32,585 --> 00:41:33,324
You know,

1103
00:41:34,184 --> 00:41:35,880
this is bad. Mhmm.

1104
00:41:36,359 --> 00:41:38,599
Right? Please help me with this, and Pete

1105
00:41:38,599 --> 00:41:39,739
doesn't believe him.

1106
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,059
And in fairness to Pete, you know,

1107
00:41:44,679 --> 00:41:46,539
Billy's been the boy who cried wolf

1108
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,319
a few times. Yeah. Well, even Mona, towards

1109
00:41:49,319 --> 00:41:51,144
the end, she sticks her head out Yeah.

1110
00:41:51,144 --> 00:41:52,505
To hear just a little bit, and she's

1111
00:41:52,505 --> 00:41:54,605
just like, nope. Shut it down. Mhmm.

1112
00:41:56,744 --> 00:41:57,625
So there is,

1113
00:41:58,345 --> 00:42:00,744
there's a frenzy movie playing when Billy gets

1114
00:42:00,744 --> 00:42:01,244
home,

1115
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:05,179
which is awesome.

1116
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,820
So he tries to talk to

1117
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,980
Katie about Pete and John,

1118
00:42:10,679 --> 00:42:12,840
and she's she's kinda like, why is this

1119
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:13,659
so important?

1120
00:42:15,974 --> 00:42:16,635
You know?

1121
00:42:18,375 --> 00:42:19,994
And he kind of dodges

1122
00:42:20,295 --> 00:42:22,454
around it a little bit saying, oh, well,

1123
00:42:22,454 --> 00:42:24,474
they they saved me.

1124
00:42:24,934 --> 00:42:27,434
I don't have anybody else, but he's not

1125
00:42:27,974 --> 00:42:29,355
telling her about Zoe.

1126
00:42:30,039 --> 00:42:32,039
Right. At which point she says, well, as

1127
00:42:32,039 --> 00:42:34,760
long as, you know, you're not doing the

1128
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:35,819
crazy stuff,

1129
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:37,739
we're still okay.

1130
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,760
So then we're back in his pottery area,

1131
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,299
and Zoe appears again.

1132
00:42:44,925 --> 00:42:46,465
And she shows

1133
00:42:47,805 --> 00:42:48,465
him orgasm.

1134
00:42:49,565 --> 00:42:51,505
And as he he deduces

1135
00:42:52,125 --> 00:42:53,565
that she wants him to turn that last

1136
00:42:53,565 --> 00:42:54,785
comic into a movie.

1137
00:42:55,324 --> 00:42:57,085
And she shows him this vision of, like,

1138
00:42:57,085 --> 00:42:59,005
how things could be, and it's all beautiful

1139
00:42:59,005 --> 00:43:01,639
things, like him and Katie and a baby.

1140
00:43:02,260 --> 00:43:03,159
Right. You know?

1141
00:43:03,539 --> 00:43:06,760
And it's this beautiful dreamy sort of sequence.

1142
00:43:08,099 --> 00:43:11,079
I wanna just cut in. Uh-huh. So that

1143
00:43:11,539 --> 00:43:13,800
she mentions it's Nick's last

1144
00:43:14,264 --> 00:43:16,045
comic. And they're talking about Nick LaVine,

1145
00:43:16,664 --> 00:43:18,125
who in the second film

1146
00:43:18,904 --> 00:43:21,404
we we love everybody. We love them all.

1147
00:43:21,464 --> 00:43:23,625
All the actors, all the characters. But let

1148
00:43:23,625 --> 00:43:25,464
me tell you Nick stole the show. Nick

1149
00:43:25,464 --> 00:43:28,400
stole we, yep, we wanted a Nick LaVine

1150
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,079
figure. Yeah. So if you remember from the

1151
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,000
second film, Nick LaVine was the one you

1152
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,440
didn't see. Wasn't a talkie guy. Oh. Long

1153
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:35,940
hair

1154
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,400
and just kinda Weird. Yeah. Oh, man. It

1155
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,264
was a beautiful, like, acid trip singing with

1156
00:43:41,264 --> 00:43:43,605
him and everything. Desert. Yeah. Yeah.

1157
00:43:44,784 --> 00:43:47,184
And then she shows him what will happen

1158
00:43:47,184 --> 00:43:48,484
if they can't reconcile,

1159
00:43:49,344 --> 00:43:50,644
and it's not good.

1160
00:43:51,344 --> 00:43:52,324
Right. It's

1161
00:43:54,489 --> 00:43:55,309
it's bad.

1162
00:43:55,609 --> 00:43:56,109
Yeah.

1163
00:43:56,969 --> 00:43:59,130
So he says, well, I might need some

1164
00:43:59,130 --> 00:43:59,630
help.

1165
00:44:00,089 --> 00:44:02,730
So the next day, we're back at Peach's

1166
00:44:02,730 --> 00:44:05,069
shop, and they're setting up for Nick LaVine

1167
00:44:05,130 --> 00:44:05,534
day.

1168
00:44:06,094 --> 00:44:08,335
And, this is where I I noted Nick

1169
00:44:08,335 --> 00:44:09,554
was our our favorite,

1170
00:44:10,974 --> 00:44:12,194
in the second film.

1171
00:44:13,214 --> 00:44:15,694
And it they'd have this whole I I

1172
00:44:15,694 --> 00:44:18,255
just I love this. This when people who

1173
00:44:18,255 --> 00:44:18,994
love movies

1174
00:44:19,375 --> 00:44:20,114
make movies,

1175
00:44:21,119 --> 00:44:21,859
it is

1176
00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:23,460
amazing.

1177
00:44:24,159 --> 00:44:26,000
This whole movie is a love letter to

1178
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,420
movies. It it really is. It's it's

1179
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,359
Billy Shaw. It's not just his love letter

1180
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:31,859
to,

1181
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:34,659
you know, frenzy and his friends. It's just

1182
00:44:35,039 --> 00:44:36,664
film. Yeah. Right?

1183
00:44:38,885 --> 00:44:41,704
It it so it's this whole eighties style

1184
00:44:42,164 --> 00:44:44,965
montage with music and the dancing around and

1185
00:44:44,965 --> 00:44:45,864
doing the things,

1186
00:44:46,724 --> 00:44:47,625
and it just

1187
00:44:47,925 --> 00:44:48,905
I loved it.

1188
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:51,900
Juxtaposed

1189
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,780
with?

1190
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:53,820
Mhmm.

1191
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:56,780
We go to John's shop,

1192
00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:58,860
and we have shots of them prepping.

1193
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,800
Oh my god. Prepping for Nick Lafene Day

1194
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:02,539
as well.

1195
00:45:03,605 --> 00:45:05,364
Adam doesn't seem to be very good at

1196
00:45:05,364 --> 00:45:06,744
this kind of thing though.

1197
00:45:07,924 --> 00:45:09,924
We don't have a lot of dancing going

1198
00:45:09,924 --> 00:45:10,424
on.

1199
00:45:12,405 --> 00:45:14,644
It doesn't look like Pete's. Adam is good

1200
00:45:14,644 --> 00:45:15,144
at

1201
00:45:15,639 --> 00:45:16,219
He is.

1202
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,000
But we do get treated to Adam's very

1203
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:20,619
poor customer relation skills,

1204
00:45:21,159 --> 00:45:22,699
as he drives a customer

1205
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,480
straight to Pete's. Yes. You know, not physically,

1206
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:27,719
but just like the guy Directly. Yeah. They

1207
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,239
couldn't get out the door fast enough, and,

1208
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,425
you know, they just arrow shot right to

1209
00:45:31,425 --> 00:45:31,925
Pete's.

1210
00:45:32,545 --> 00:45:35,025
John comes out and asks if they need

1211
00:45:35,025 --> 00:45:38,005
to go over de escalation techniques again.

1212
00:45:38,305 --> 00:45:40,224
I wanna say And I love that. Do

1213
00:45:40,224 --> 00:45:41,905
we need to go over de escalation tech

1214
00:45:42,065 --> 00:45:43,125
techniques again?

1215
00:45:43,859 --> 00:45:44,359
So,

1216
00:45:47,779 --> 00:45:49,460
I forget her name, the other girl who

1217
00:45:49,460 --> 00:45:50,759
works in this store. Tanya.

1218
00:45:51,299 --> 00:45:52,839
Tanya? Tanya. Okay.

1219
00:45:53,539 --> 00:45:56,500
So both Tanya and Adam are not just

1220
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:57,719
rude to customers.

1221
00:45:58,099 --> 00:45:59,000
They're weird.

1222
00:45:59,964 --> 00:46:01,585
Like, it goes beyond rudeness

1223
00:46:01,964 --> 00:46:03,744
Yeah. And into the, like,

1224
00:46:04,284 --> 00:46:05,505
really, really weird

1225
00:46:05,804 --> 00:46:06,304
area.

1226
00:46:06,844 --> 00:46:08,864
Well, yeah. They're not, like, hatefully rude.

1227
00:46:09,405 --> 00:46:10,784
They're just they're, like,

1228
00:46:11,739 --> 00:46:12,239
sociopathically

1229
00:46:12,940 --> 00:46:13,440
disassociated

1230
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:16,480
Yeah. From what's happening on happening

1231
00:46:17,019 --> 00:46:18,079
rude. Yes.

1232
00:46:18,940 --> 00:46:21,340
Hence, the de escalation techniques. I just I

1233
00:46:21,340 --> 00:46:23,039
love that. These little lines.

1234
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:24,400
So,

1235
00:46:25,980 --> 00:46:26,480
Tanya,

1236
00:46:27,474 --> 00:46:27,974
who,

1237
00:46:28,514 --> 00:46:29,974
defends Adam to John.

1238
00:46:30,594 --> 00:46:32,295
A note on her. She's amazing.

1239
00:46:32,755 --> 00:46:34,594
Oh, yeah. She she is. She stares at

1240
00:46:34,594 --> 00:46:36,534
Adam with this haunting expression

1241
00:46:37,155 --> 00:46:39,014
that you just know she's like

1242
00:46:40,450 --> 00:46:43,829
Oh, yeah. Right? In their weird way. Mhmm.

1243
00:46:43,969 --> 00:46:46,849
But it's it's it's awesome. She's clearly into

1244
00:46:46,849 --> 00:46:49,730
him. And when you're watching, just she because

1245
00:46:49,730 --> 00:46:51,730
sometimes she's like on on, like, the far

1246
00:46:51,730 --> 00:46:53,010
edge of, like, the left side of the

1247
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:53,510
screen,

1248
00:46:54,085 --> 00:46:56,085
just, like, sticking out from a a row

1249
00:46:56,085 --> 00:46:57,605
of comics or something. But just look for

1250
00:46:57,605 --> 00:46:59,065
that face. Look for those expressions.

1251
00:46:59,445 --> 00:47:01,545
Like, when she's not actively on camera,

1252
00:47:02,324 --> 00:47:02,985
you know,

1253
00:47:03,285 --> 00:47:04,905
I they're just delightful.

1254
00:47:05,204 --> 00:47:07,650
I I loved seeing her every second. Like

1255
00:47:08,289 --> 00:47:10,210
Well, I hate It's just like an Easter

1256
00:47:10,210 --> 00:47:12,849
egg. We're being its own Easter egg for

1257
00:47:12,849 --> 00:47:14,769
the sake of being an Easter egg. Well,

1258
00:47:14,769 --> 00:47:15,889
I know. I might be wrong, but I

1259
00:47:15,889 --> 00:47:17,569
feel her character is a little bit of

1260
00:47:17,569 --> 00:47:19,510
an homage to, like, The Addams Family.

1261
00:47:20,925 --> 00:47:23,344
I think so. Feels a little bit Wednesday

1262
00:47:23,965 --> 00:47:27,105
Yeah. Addams to me. Yeah. Old old style.

1263
00:47:27,164 --> 00:47:30,125
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess the Christina

1264
00:47:30,125 --> 00:47:31,025
Ricci version

1265
00:47:31,965 --> 00:47:32,864
is is

1266
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,079
still kinda kept with some of that. Mhmm.

1267
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:37,680
But I'm I always think, you know, original

1268
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,099
Adam's family because, yeah, these guys were

1269
00:47:41,519 --> 00:47:42,019
something.

1270
00:47:44,079 --> 00:47:46,400
Anyway, after all that, we are back at

1271
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,900
Pete's.

1272
00:47:47,804 --> 00:47:49,505
And we have some hardcore

1273
00:47:49,885 --> 00:47:50,784
comic customers

1274
00:47:51,164 --> 00:47:51,984
all ramped

1275
00:47:52,525 --> 00:47:55,184
up because there are no more frenzy comics.

1276
00:47:57,405 --> 00:47:59,964
Meant to be funny, and it is, this

1277
00:47:59,964 --> 00:48:00,704
whole scene.

1278
00:48:01,050 --> 00:48:03,289
But I I I wrote in here, but

1279
00:48:03,289 --> 00:48:04,349
the dark truth

1280
00:48:05,130 --> 00:48:05,630
is

1281
00:48:06,410 --> 00:48:07,949
it is not an exaggeration.

1282
00:48:09,210 --> 00:48:10,510
No. No. It isn't.

1283
00:48:11,289 --> 00:48:12,349
And, I mean,

1284
00:48:14,105 --> 00:48:15,704
I don't know how to explain it. Folks,

1285
00:48:15,704 --> 00:48:17,804
if you've been to if you're into comics,

1286
00:48:17,944 --> 00:48:19,085
into graphic novels

1287
00:48:20,984 --> 00:48:22,764
and, hopefully, you're not one of these people.

1288
00:48:23,144 --> 00:48:24,664
Because if you are, you wouldn't know. There

1289
00:48:24,664 --> 00:48:26,264
can be a dark side to There is

1290
00:48:26,264 --> 00:48:28,109
a dark side. They get mean. Yeah. I

1291
00:48:28,109 --> 00:48:30,349
mean, they get mean. You know? This is

1292
00:48:30,589 --> 00:48:31,889
Yeah. This is serious.

1293
00:48:32,589 --> 00:48:34,369
And I'm not saying that to, you know,

1294
00:48:34,989 --> 00:48:36,449
like, piss on it or anything.

1295
00:48:37,789 --> 00:48:40,109
It's a very serious thing. I used to

1296
00:48:40,109 --> 00:48:41,009
collect comics,

1297
00:48:42,065 --> 00:48:43,585
Right? As a kid. Yeah. They all got

1298
00:48:43,585 --> 00:48:44,565
stolen from me.

1299
00:48:45,105 --> 00:48:46,484
It was years years years.

1300
00:48:46,864 --> 00:48:49,444
I've got 2 little boxes sitting behind you.

1301
00:48:49,824 --> 00:48:52,304
Just some favorite things that I'd see every

1302
00:48:52,304 --> 00:48:53,664
now and again. I'm like, oh, I had

1303
00:48:53,664 --> 00:48:56,019
that. Oh, I had that. You know? You

1304
00:48:56,019 --> 00:48:57,559
pick them up. So

1305
00:48:58,339 --> 00:49:00,339
I'm not ultra dedicated, but, oh, man, I've

1306
00:49:00,339 --> 00:49:01,940
been in the shop when they have those

1307
00:49:01,940 --> 00:49:04,819
people come in, you know, comic day. They've

1308
00:49:04,819 --> 00:49:06,195
arrived. Why aren't they out?

1309
00:49:06,755 --> 00:49:08,675
Oh, I know. Why aren't they priced? Why

1310
00:49:08,675 --> 00:49:10,594
aren't they organized? Why is there a stack

1311
00:49:10,594 --> 00:49:12,114
of comics over there that aren't bagged and

1312
00:49:12,114 --> 00:49:14,755
cardboarded? Right? Bags and boards bags and boards.

1313
00:49:14,755 --> 00:49:15,974
Where is you know?

1314
00:49:17,635 --> 00:49:19,875
Anything that has a serious fandom is like

1315
00:49:19,875 --> 00:49:22,199
that. I waited in line for Harry Potter

1316
00:49:22,199 --> 00:49:24,280
books as a kid, and, oh, boy. Oh,

1317
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:25,340
yeah. I'll tell you.

1318
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,460
Contentious.

1319
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:27,500
It is.

1320
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:32,039
So I get it, and they did make

1321
00:49:32,039 --> 00:49:34,385
it funny, But I I love how the

1322
00:49:34,385 --> 00:49:36,784
element of realism was injected into it. Mhmm.

1323
00:49:36,784 --> 00:49:37,925
You know, for that.

1324
00:49:39,505 --> 00:49:40,244
Let's see.

1325
00:49:40,945 --> 00:49:43,045
I lost my thing. Oh, here we go.

1326
00:49:43,425 --> 00:49:44,565
So at Billy's,

1327
00:49:45,025 --> 00:49:47,125
Katie, Jen, and Mona are having drinks.

1328
00:49:47,789 --> 00:49:50,050
Katie tells them she is worried about Billy,

1329
00:49:50,110 --> 00:49:51,410
that he's acting weird.

1330
00:49:54,110 --> 00:49:54,610
That's

1331
00:49:55,309 --> 00:49:56,449
that's a hard one.

1332
00:49:56,989 --> 00:49:59,630
That's a hard one. They're sweet friends, these

1333
00:49:59,630 --> 00:50:01,864
girls. Oh. What I wrote in my notes

1334
00:50:01,864 --> 00:50:05,244
because I really enjoyed their interactions here. Yes.

1335
00:50:05,704 --> 00:50:08,664
Yes. Well, in this movie, I love that

1336
00:50:08,664 --> 00:50:10,605
the men in this movie are just Rex.

1337
00:50:10,824 --> 00:50:12,204
Even though Billy's sober

1338
00:50:12,744 --> 00:50:15,945
Mhmm. He's still Billy Yeah. Who inherently is

1339
00:50:15,945 --> 00:50:16,525
a wreck.

1340
00:50:16,889 --> 00:50:17,389
Right?

1341
00:50:17,929 --> 00:50:19,609
And all 3 of these guys are just

1342
00:50:19,609 --> 00:50:20,109
wrecks.

1343
00:50:20,889 --> 00:50:21,630
It it's

1344
00:50:22,329 --> 00:50:24,730
it's just that old adage behind every great

1345
00:50:24,730 --> 00:50:27,289
man. And these aren't great guys. I mean,

1346
00:50:27,289 --> 00:50:27,869
I mean,

1347
00:50:29,224 --> 00:50:30,605
they're not there's no greatness.

1348
00:50:31,144 --> 00:50:32,824
They're not like the king of the comic

1349
00:50:32,824 --> 00:50:33,565
book shops.

1350
00:50:34,425 --> 00:50:35,565
The you know, whatever.

1351
00:50:36,105 --> 00:50:38,204
But, you know, they're decent guys,

1352
00:50:39,224 --> 00:50:41,885
fucked up, but they've got really good women

1353
00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:45,210
behind them who, without them, especially Billy Yeah.

1354
00:50:45,210 --> 00:50:46,489
Because we've seen what he's like without a

1355
00:50:46,489 --> 00:50:48,590
woman behind him to shore him up.

1356
00:50:50,410 --> 00:50:52,190
Yeah. They're they're just awesome,

1357
00:50:52,730 --> 00:50:53,630
and they're subtle.

1358
00:50:54,585 --> 00:50:55,484
They're not like,

1359
00:50:56,425 --> 00:50:57,085
you know,

1360
00:50:57,784 --> 00:50:59,945
we're gonna just do this. No. They they

1361
00:50:59,945 --> 00:51:02,105
do their little nudges and their stuff, or

1362
00:51:02,105 --> 00:51:04,105
they just ignore them, you know, like with

1363
00:51:04,105 --> 00:51:05,625
Mona in bed. You know, just reading her

1364
00:51:05,625 --> 00:51:06,445
comic book.

1365
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,180
Yeah. You'll stop talking one of these.

1366
00:51:14,519 --> 00:51:15,340
So, anyway,

1367
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,200
Katie's worried about Billy because he's acting weird.

1368
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,019
Jen is down because she's not pregnant yet.

1369
00:51:21,474 --> 00:51:23,795
And immediately, the other 2 were just like,

1370
00:51:23,795 --> 00:51:25,574
woof. Yes. You know,

1371
00:51:26,034 --> 00:51:27,175
hug hug puddle.

1372
00:51:27,875 --> 00:51:28,375
Mhmm.

1373
00:51:29,635 --> 00:51:32,054
Being supportive and encouraging to her.

1374
00:51:33,250 --> 00:51:34,289
And, yeah, it was

1375
00:51:35,329 --> 00:51:37,329
I I I just I love the balance.

1376
00:51:37,329 --> 00:51:38,849
And we're gonna talk about all this in

1377
00:51:38,849 --> 00:51:40,690
greater detail. But the balance of this scene

1378
00:51:40,690 --> 00:51:41,430
was fantastic.

1379
00:51:42,530 --> 00:51:45,269
It it hit and but it was sweet.

1380
00:51:46,055 --> 00:51:47,914
Yeah. And and at the end,

1381
00:51:48,215 --> 00:51:48,875
it was

1382
00:51:49,494 --> 00:51:50,795
uplifting and encouraging.

1383
00:51:51,335 --> 00:51:52,555
You know, just this

1384
00:51:53,175 --> 00:51:55,575
this tight little group of of women, the

1385
00:51:55,575 --> 00:51:56,235
the friendship.

1386
00:51:56,615 --> 00:51:58,695
Yeah. You know? I've I've some things to

1387
00:51:58,695 --> 00:52:00,650
say later. Oh, excellent.

1388
00:52:02,550 --> 00:52:03,609
Okay. So

1389
00:52:04,469 --> 00:52:05,929
then we're at Pete's.

1390
00:52:06,949 --> 00:52:08,409
1 of the staffers, Owen,

1391
00:52:08,789 --> 00:52:10,650
is deep sleeping on the floor

1392
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:11,690
underneath

1393
00:52:12,069 --> 00:52:12,569
a

1394
00:52:12,949 --> 00:52:13,449
table

1395
00:52:14,295 --> 00:52:17,414
as Pete sits at his desk tossing crumpled

1396
00:52:17,414 --> 00:52:18,875
up dollars at him

1397
00:52:19,894 --> 00:52:21,514
like he's trying to make a shot.

1398
00:52:22,135 --> 00:52:23,994
The accountant from earlier, Sarah,

1399
00:52:25,255 --> 00:52:25,994
is leaving.

1400
00:52:27,150 --> 00:52:30,429
Pete asks if she'll still or if she's

1401
00:52:30,429 --> 00:52:31,650
still helping John

1402
00:52:32,349 --> 00:52:34,609
with his books and how he's doing.

1403
00:52:35,469 --> 00:52:37,630
And I love it. Sarah just looks at

1404
00:52:37,630 --> 00:52:39,250
him and tells Pete to

1405
00:52:40,114 --> 00:52:40,934
call John.

1406
00:52:41,394 --> 00:52:42,694
Ask him. Yeah.

1407
00:52:43,554 --> 00:52:45,954
Then we're at John and Jen's. And the

1408
00:52:45,954 --> 00:52:48,675
best continuous thing about these films is John

1409
00:52:48,675 --> 00:52:50,295
and Jen's weird sex stuff.

1410
00:52:51,315 --> 00:52:53,414
The role play. It's my favorite bit.

1411
00:52:54,380 --> 00:52:57,019
Every time, it's so it's so just fresh

1412
00:52:57,019 --> 00:52:57,680
and funny.

1413
00:52:58,219 --> 00:52:59,900
There's a lot of effort that goes into

1414
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:02,000
them. Yes. These are not just like,

1415
00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:04,640
you know, throw on a sailor hat

1416
00:53:04,940 --> 00:53:07,039
kind of things. These are real serious

1417
00:53:07,545 --> 00:53:08,525
roleplaying costumes.

1418
00:53:08,905 --> 00:53:11,144
Right. Or just like some stupid dialogue and

1419
00:53:11,224 --> 00:53:13,625
or, you know, like, oh, are you here

1420
00:53:13,625 --> 00:53:14,844
to fix my pikes?

1421
00:53:15,144 --> 00:53:17,324
Yeah. Oh, no. No. This is

1422
00:53:17,864 --> 00:53:19,724
this is production level stuff.

1423
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,199
But Jen isn't into, you know, John's efforts

1424
00:53:26,199 --> 00:53:27,739
for this this night.

1425
00:53:28,199 --> 00:53:30,840
She's still upset about, you know, not being

1426
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,460
able to have a baby.

1427
00:53:34,934 --> 00:53:37,494
So then we jumped to the store, John's

1428
00:53:37,494 --> 00:53:39,194
store, and we get another cameo,

1429
00:53:41,574 --> 00:53:43,755
someone trying to sell the store some comics.

1430
00:53:44,135 --> 00:53:44,635
Yeah.

1431
00:53:45,989 --> 00:53:46,489
And

1432
00:53:46,789 --> 00:53:49,530
Adam is being so truly weird again.

1433
00:53:50,070 --> 00:53:50,570
I'm

1434
00:53:51,110 --> 00:53:52,550
I'm not gonna spoil it because I know

1435
00:53:52,550 --> 00:53:55,210
it's better to watch it. But his whole

1436
00:53:55,349 --> 00:53:57,289
charade that he goes through here

1437
00:53:59,704 --> 00:54:00,285
is just

1438
00:54:00,905 --> 00:54:01,965
just, you know,

1439
00:54:02,425 --> 00:54:03,724
chef's kiss. Yes.

1440
00:54:04,184 --> 00:54:04,684
And

1441
00:54:05,305 --> 00:54:05,805
Tanya

1442
00:54:06,265 --> 00:54:07,085
is 100%

1443
00:54:08,744 --> 00:54:11,244
Supportive. In it with you. Yes. Yep.

1444
00:54:11,545 --> 00:54:12,045
Delightful.

1445
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,099
And then we see Billy

1446
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:21,180
kind of being followed around by Zoe again.

1447
00:54:22,519 --> 00:54:24,840
And we get a montage of things not

1448
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:26,059
going well for Billy,

1449
00:54:27,724 --> 00:54:28,864
arguing with Katie,

1450
00:54:29,485 --> 00:54:31,965
you know, she can't then she's talking to

1451
00:54:31,965 --> 00:54:33,664
Pete. She can't find him.

1452
00:54:34,204 --> 00:54:35,905
He's gone and bought a bottle.

1453
00:54:38,364 --> 00:54:40,545
He's lying, this has always worked before.

1454
00:54:41,559 --> 00:54:42,059
Mhmm.

1455
00:54:43,559 --> 00:54:45,639
And Zoe is trying to stop him, but

1456
00:54:45,639 --> 00:54:48,119
he's drinking anyway. Well, let me let me

1457
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:49,900
go back a bit. Yeah. So

1458
00:54:50,599 --> 00:54:52,380
in in all this,

1459
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:53,500
when she's,

1460
00:54:54,574 --> 00:54:56,494
you know, calling and she gets a hold

1461
00:54:56,494 --> 00:54:57,074
of Pete

1462
00:54:58,094 --> 00:54:59,635
and she brings up frenzy,

1463
00:55:00,494 --> 00:55:02,594
Pete immediately hangs up

1464
00:55:04,494 --> 00:55:06,734
and heads out to look for Billy. Yeah.

1465
00:55:06,734 --> 00:55:08,114
Because he knows

1466
00:55:08,574 --> 00:55:09,394
the level

1467
00:55:11,639 --> 00:55:12,380
of what

1468
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:13,340
that

1469
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:14,300
means.

1470
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:15,340
Yes.

1471
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:16,380
Now

1472
00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:19,980
I think

1473
00:55:22,535 --> 00:55:23,974
This is probably a good place. This is

1474
00:55:23,974 --> 00:55:26,394
where we're gonna stop. There's still a good

1475
00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:27,114
chunk

1476
00:55:27,735 --> 00:55:29,434
for the ending. Yeah.

1477
00:55:29,974 --> 00:55:30,474
But

1478
00:55:30,775 --> 00:55:33,095
let's let's stop it here. Okay.

1479
00:55:33,414 --> 00:55:36,219
I will say this though. Okay? Folks, watch

1480
00:55:36,219 --> 00:55:37,760
this all the way through the credits

1481
00:55:38,219 --> 00:55:40,019
to the very very end. Oh, you have

1482
00:55:40,019 --> 00:55:41,900
a little cut scenes? There are some cut

1483
00:55:41,900 --> 00:55:44,800
scenes Massive. Style that are beautiful.

1484
00:55:47,914 --> 00:55:49,695
And I just yeah. I I

1485
00:55:50,394 --> 00:55:52,335
I love them. I'm glad they did them.

1486
00:55:53,034 --> 00:55:53,775
Oh, yeah.

1487
00:55:54,474 --> 00:55:54,974
So

1488
00:55:55,514 --> 00:55:56,014
yeah.

1489
00:55:56,875 --> 00:55:58,734
We'll leave it at that. Alright.

1490
00:55:59,610 --> 00:56:00,110
Alright.

1491
00:56:01,289 --> 00:56:02,670
So let's get into this

1492
00:56:03,369 --> 00:56:04,430
discussion piece.

1493
00:56:05,050 --> 00:56:07,150
Let's talk about stuff. Yeah.

1494
00:56:07,769 --> 00:56:10,110
So first of all, see this movie.

1495
00:56:10,650 --> 00:56:12,650
Yes. See it and see it again and

1496
00:56:12,650 --> 00:56:14,765
again and again and again. Watch all 3

1497
00:56:14,765 --> 00:56:16,065
of them. Binge it.

1498
00:56:16,365 --> 00:56:16,865
Because

1499
00:56:18,605 --> 00:56:19,744
it's so fun.

1500
00:56:20,045 --> 00:56:22,445
It really is. And one of the things

1501
00:56:22,445 --> 00:56:24,445
that makes it fun is what we were

1502
00:56:24,445 --> 00:56:26,765
talking about. The way it's written, the way

1503
00:56:26,765 --> 00:56:27,585
it's shot,

1504
00:56:28,039 --> 00:56:30,519
and let's let's talk about those things. Okay.

1505
00:56:30,519 --> 00:56:32,679
So first of all, no matter how you

1506
00:56:32,679 --> 00:56:33,500
shoot a movie,

1507
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,539
it's shit if the writing's no good. True.

1508
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:40,780
The the Pondo boys,

1509
00:56:41,505 --> 00:56:42,885
Flip and Marty, they

1510
00:56:45,264 --> 00:56:48,304
nothing they they do is elevated. And by

1511
00:56:48,304 --> 00:56:49,284
that, I mean,

1512
00:56:49,904 --> 00:56:51,684
they don't take it to the oomph

1513
00:56:52,144 --> 00:56:52,644
level.

1514
00:56:53,264 --> 00:56:54,324
Well, they're not pretentious.

1515
00:56:54,704 --> 00:56:55,525
Ex exactly.

1516
00:56:55,824 --> 00:56:56,484
You know?

1517
00:56:57,619 --> 00:56:58,760
They they just

1518
00:57:00,019 --> 00:57:01,239
it's just real.

1519
00:57:01,780 --> 00:57:04,119
Yeah. Conversations are real. The antics

1520
00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:05,719
are real.

1521
00:57:06,099 --> 00:57:08,260
You know, if you've lived any amount of

1522
00:57:08,260 --> 00:57:08,500
time

1523
00:57:09,534 --> 00:57:11,474
outside of a bedroom or your basement,

1524
00:57:11,934 --> 00:57:13,795
you know, interacted with people,

1525
00:57:14,175 --> 00:57:15,554
this is how people

1526
00:57:17,454 --> 00:57:17,954
speak.

1527
00:57:18,414 --> 00:57:20,255
Yes. And this has been like our biggest

1528
00:57:20,255 --> 00:57:22,594
problem with a lot of movies, you know.

1529
00:57:23,099 --> 00:57:25,340
All the rules for writing scripts, you know,

1530
00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:27,660
2 sentences, 3 at most. Keep it short.

1531
00:57:27,660 --> 00:57:29,019
Keep it quick. Keep it doing this, you

1532
00:57:29,019 --> 00:57:30,300
know. And then I think, like, to, you

1533
00:57:30,300 --> 00:57:33,420
know, Glenn, Gary, Glenn Ross, like, there's whole

1534
00:57:33,420 --> 00:57:33,920
diatribes.

1535
00:57:34,700 --> 00:57:36,239
Oh, yeah. And it's

1536
00:57:36,804 --> 00:57:37,304
gorgeous.

1537
00:57:37,925 --> 00:57:40,804
It is. Right? Yeah. You know? Because that's

1538
00:57:40,804 --> 00:57:42,824
how we talk. We don't talk in

1539
00:57:44,324 --> 00:57:46,085
I've got 90 minutes to get a whole

1540
00:57:46,085 --> 00:57:47,684
bunch of shit out, and we have to

1541
00:57:47,684 --> 00:57:49,605
have a discourse. So it's gonna be 1

1542
00:57:49,605 --> 00:57:51,125
word, 2 words, 1 word, 2 words, 1

1543
00:57:51,125 --> 00:57:53,829
word, 2 words. Well, I mean okay. There's

1544
00:57:53,829 --> 00:57:55,530
the movie the film The Room.

1545
00:57:56,230 --> 00:57:58,230
Yes. No one in real life talks like

1546
00:57:58,230 --> 00:57:59,670
anybody talks in the room, and I don't

1547
00:57:59,670 --> 00:58:00,969
know how that got past.

1548
00:58:01,510 --> 00:58:03,190
You know? I don't know how that didn't

1549
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:03,690
occur

1550
00:58:04,005 --> 00:58:05,545
to Tom our

1551
00:58:06,164 --> 00:58:08,264
our lovely, lovely Tommy Wissow

1552
00:58:08,644 --> 00:58:10,025
Yeah. Who I adore.

1553
00:58:11,364 --> 00:58:12,424
We love Tommy.

1554
00:58:12,884 --> 00:58:15,045
But nobody talks like that. And on that,

1555
00:58:15,045 --> 00:58:16,484
folks, go back You just gotta know that.

1556
00:58:16,644 --> 00:58:19,125
Go back and find our our episode on

1557
00:58:19,125 --> 00:58:19,784
the room.

1558
00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,900
I'm looking at a Tommy bobblehead.

1559
00:58:23,519 --> 00:58:25,139
I'm looking at the script

1560
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:27,539
from the room that Tommy signed.

1561
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,420
Right. Right? Directly to you. Yes.

1562
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,880
And we have blind. And we have a

1563
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:33,780
pair of his underwear.

1564
00:58:34,364 --> 00:58:35,105
That's right.

1565
00:58:35,885 --> 00:58:36,945
Not not not his

1566
00:58:37,405 --> 00:58:39,724
that he wore. No. But his line. His

1567
00:58:39,724 --> 00:58:41,644
his unique line of underwear. And if we

1568
00:58:41,644 --> 00:58:43,565
ever meet him, I have questions about this

1569
00:58:43,565 --> 00:58:45,724
underwear. I have a lot of questions. Just

1570
00:58:45,724 --> 00:58:47,880
period. I just I really just wanna know

1571
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,659
about the underwear. I wanna know what

1572
00:58:51,079 --> 00:58:53,480
what is the situation there. It has a

1573
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,639
pocket. It has a weird little pocket on

1574
00:58:55,639 --> 00:58:57,579
the inside that can maybe fit a pen.

1575
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,780
Like, a pen Yeah. In it.

1576
00:59:01,364 --> 00:59:03,545
So it's not enough there's a banana pouch.

1577
00:59:03,925 --> 00:59:06,244
Right. It's got a pocket. I've never in

1578
00:59:06,244 --> 00:59:08,405
my life put on underwear of any kind

1579
00:59:08,405 --> 00:59:10,425
and thought, if only I had a pocket.

1580
00:59:11,525 --> 00:59:12,184
But, anyway,

1581
00:59:14,660 --> 00:59:17,940
these conversations are real. Even the kind of

1582
00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:19,239
slapsticky relationship

1583
00:59:19,539 --> 00:59:20,760
between John and Pete,

1584
00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:22,519
that's very real.

1585
00:59:23,380 --> 00:59:25,300
Oh, there are friendships that are like that.

1586
00:59:25,300 --> 00:59:27,320
Absolutely. I had some

1587
00:59:27,780 --> 00:59:30,565
way early on in life, and that's just

1588
00:59:30,565 --> 00:59:32,644
how it is. And it's what makes every

1589
00:59:32,644 --> 00:59:33,864
person in here relatable.

1590
00:59:34,244 --> 00:59:34,744
Mhmm.

1591
00:59:35,045 --> 00:59:35,545
And

1592
00:59:36,724 --> 00:59:38,744
that is the gold standard.

1593
00:59:39,605 --> 00:59:40,585
You want

1594
00:59:41,045 --> 00:59:43,224
everything you write to be relatable

1595
00:59:44,019 --> 00:59:44,760
to the audience.

1596
00:59:45,380 --> 00:59:48,420
Mhmm. And these guys do every single time

1597
00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:50,500
they've done it. Well and that's something I

1598
00:59:50,500 --> 00:59:52,579
wanna bring up too, the conversation between the

1599
00:59:52,579 --> 00:59:55,619
girls when Jen's talking about her struggles with

1600
00:59:55,619 --> 00:59:57,079
having a baby. Mhmm.

1601
00:59:58,025 --> 00:59:59,565
You know, I've got my girls

1602
01:00:00,985 --> 01:00:01,724
that I

1603
01:00:02,345 --> 01:00:03,005
talk to,

1604
01:00:05,305 --> 01:00:06,445
and their

1605
01:00:07,385 --> 01:00:10,525
their relationship is a very real female friendship

1606
01:00:10,585 --> 01:00:11,085
relationship.

1607
01:00:12,269 --> 01:00:12,929
You know?

1608
01:00:13,309 --> 01:00:13,809
And

1609
01:00:14,110 --> 01:00:15,650
that is something that was

1610
01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:18,510
sort of surprising to me, considering the script

1611
01:00:18,510 --> 01:00:20,750
is written by 2 men. No offense to

1612
01:00:20,750 --> 01:00:21,570
Cliff and Marty.

1613
01:00:22,110 --> 01:00:22,610
But

1614
01:00:23,869 --> 01:00:25,905
it it it is a shock as as

1615
01:00:25,905 --> 01:00:28,065
a woman to to see that Mhmm. In

1616
01:00:28,065 --> 01:00:30,485
a film, and it's a pleasant shock. Yeah.

1617
01:00:30,625 --> 01:00:31,285
You know?

1618
01:00:31,824 --> 01:00:33,684
So that's something that I really appreciate.

1619
01:00:35,105 --> 01:00:37,744
Well, I wonder if they had

1620
01:00:38,589 --> 01:00:39,409
A consultation.

1621
01:00:39,710 --> 01:00:40,369
A consultation.

1622
01:00:40,750 --> 01:00:41,250
Because

1623
01:00:41,550 --> 01:00:44,210
there's all these fantastic women. Yeah.

1624
01:00:44,589 --> 01:00:45,329
You know?

1625
01:00:47,389 --> 01:00:49,250
Well, so from an actor's perspective,

1626
01:00:49,869 --> 01:00:50,369
right,

1627
01:00:51,204 --> 01:00:52,264
As an actor,

1628
01:00:53,764 --> 01:00:54,744
never be afraid

1629
01:00:55,125 --> 01:00:56,744
to approach the the director

1630
01:00:57,364 --> 01:00:58,505
and say, hey.

1631
01:00:59,045 --> 01:01:00,565
You know, if you're if you're in the

1632
01:01:00,565 --> 01:01:02,324
shooting aspect of it or even doing, like,

1633
01:01:02,324 --> 01:01:04,264
script reviews, read throughs and stuff,

1634
01:01:05,230 --> 01:01:07,150
I don't think she would say this. I

1635
01:01:07,150 --> 01:01:09,550
don't think this character would talk like that.

1636
01:01:09,550 --> 01:01:11,329
Or quite frankly, you know,

1637
01:01:11,950 --> 01:01:13,489
this isn't how we've been taught.

1638
01:01:14,829 --> 01:01:15,329
Right?

1639
01:01:16,525 --> 01:01:18,045
Don't be afraid because your job as an

1640
01:01:18,045 --> 01:01:18,545
actor

1641
01:01:18,925 --> 01:01:20,605
is to take the written word and portray

1642
01:01:20,605 --> 01:01:22,764
it as realistically as you can for that

1643
01:01:22,764 --> 01:01:23,264
character.

1644
01:01:23,565 --> 01:01:24,385
Mhmm. Right?

1645
01:01:24,684 --> 01:01:25,824
And if it

1646
01:01:26,125 --> 01:01:27,824
if it doesn't hit,

1647
01:01:28,445 --> 01:01:30,945
say something. It's your job to say something.

1648
01:01:31,005 --> 01:01:33,880
Right? Now in Hollywood, in a films,

1649
01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:36,119
you hear about people losing their jobs

1650
01:01:36,820 --> 01:01:38,820
and getting fired from productions because they're just

1651
01:01:38,820 --> 01:01:40,340
like, this is I mean, if you're a

1652
01:01:40,340 --> 01:01:40,840
tool

1653
01:01:41,380 --> 01:01:43,940
Yeah. You're gonna get booted. Right? But there

1654
01:01:43,940 --> 01:01:45,635
are a lot of directors out there who

1655
01:01:45,635 --> 01:01:47,875
just don't they they have such an ego.

1656
01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:49,094
It can't take it.

1657
01:01:50,594 --> 01:01:52,835
Can't take it. Yeah. But on the other

1658
01:01:52,835 --> 01:01:54,694
hand, there are some very powerful

1659
01:01:55,315 --> 01:01:56,375
long time directors

1660
01:01:56,675 --> 01:01:57,815
who fully understand

1661
01:01:58,469 --> 01:02:00,570
that filmmaking is a collaborative,

1662
01:02:01,269 --> 01:02:01,769
creative

1663
01:02:02,230 --> 01:02:04,630
process. Yes. And if you have an actor

1664
01:02:04,630 --> 01:02:07,429
who is entrenched in this part, they come

1665
01:02:07,429 --> 01:02:08,570
to you and they say,

1666
01:02:09,429 --> 01:02:10,489
this doesn't work.

1667
01:02:11,324 --> 01:02:12,864
I don't see how this works.

1668
01:02:13,724 --> 01:02:15,804
A good director would say, okay. How about

1669
01:02:15,804 --> 01:02:17,585
we do it this way first,

1670
01:02:18,764 --> 01:02:21,005
and then let's see what you've got? Let's

1671
01:02:21,005 --> 01:02:21,984
do 2 takes.

1672
01:02:22,364 --> 01:02:24,819
Yeah. Right? Because because you never know. I

1673
01:02:24,819 --> 01:02:26,760
mean, as an actor, you could be wrong,

1674
01:02:26,980 --> 01:02:28,920
and there's nothing wrong with that. Collaboration

1675
01:02:29,219 --> 01:02:29,719
is

1676
01:02:30,739 --> 01:02:31,880
finding the right

1677
01:02:32,339 --> 01:02:34,019
in all the little pieces and putting them

1678
01:02:34,019 --> 01:02:34,519
together.

1679
01:02:35,059 --> 01:02:35,559
So,

1680
01:02:36,755 --> 01:02:37,894
you know, these folks,

1681
01:02:39,074 --> 01:02:40,994
they just nail it. You know? And as

1682
01:02:40,994 --> 01:02:42,054
far as as,

1683
01:02:42,594 --> 01:02:43,094
actors,

1684
01:02:46,035 --> 01:02:46,535
Bradford

1685
01:02:47,155 --> 01:02:47,894
as Billy,

1686
01:02:48,434 --> 01:02:51,574
he has always been magnificent with this character.

1687
01:02:51,950 --> 01:02:54,190
Yes. It's, you know, and it's almost like

1688
01:02:54,190 --> 01:02:56,610
he just, like, puts Billy on

1689
01:02:56,990 --> 01:02:58,130
like like a suit,

1690
01:02:58,829 --> 01:03:00,829
and there's just nothing left of Bradford in

1691
01:03:00,829 --> 01:03:02,050
there. He just becomes

1692
01:03:02,590 --> 01:03:03,090
Billy,

1693
01:03:03,470 --> 01:03:05,329
and it's just wild. His expressions,

1694
01:03:05,964 --> 01:03:07,664
his faces, his intonations,

1695
01:03:08,925 --> 01:03:09,425
everything

1696
01:03:10,364 --> 01:03:11,184
makes him

1697
01:03:11,804 --> 01:03:13,505
you just you just wanna keep watching.

1698
01:03:13,885 --> 01:03:16,284
And, I mean, that's the key. Yeah. That's

1699
01:03:16,284 --> 01:03:17,744
the key. So

1700
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:20,680
the the writing in this, like I said,

1701
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,079
it's not elevated to a point where they're

1702
01:03:23,079 --> 01:03:24,059
going for gimmick.

1703
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:27,480
Right. It's it's straight on. It's and it's

1704
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:29,019
constant all the way through.

1705
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:30,300
That's the thing.

1706
01:03:33,125 --> 01:03:35,385
I I just admire it. It it is

1707
01:03:35,605 --> 01:03:36,585
such a joy.

1708
01:03:36,885 --> 01:03:39,125
And then the actors doing and, of course,

1709
01:03:39,125 --> 01:03:40,425
you know, then there's the directors.

1710
01:03:40,965 --> 01:03:43,420
Oh, yeah. I mean Well, let's not forget

1711
01:03:43,420 --> 01:03:44,940
the directors. Yeah. I mean, you got a

1712
01:03:44,940 --> 01:03:46,380
bunch of guys in the in the orchestra

1713
01:03:46,380 --> 01:03:47,519
pit. You need somebody

1714
01:03:47,900 --> 01:03:49,820
to keep them in time and to keep

1715
01:03:49,820 --> 01:03:50,480
it moving.

1716
01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:53,599
Cliff and Marty have an excellent sense

1717
01:03:53,980 --> 01:03:55,679
of timing and pace.

1718
01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:57,360
Yes. You never

1719
01:03:57,660 --> 01:03:58,400
get bored.

1720
01:03:58,994 --> 01:04:01,014
And I there's movies that I like

1721
01:04:01,394 --> 01:04:01,974
a lot

1722
01:04:02,434 --> 01:04:04,054
that have moments where I'm like,

1723
01:04:04,835 --> 01:04:06,994
we're to this part again. You know, so

1724
01:04:06,994 --> 01:04:07,894
even in the big

1725
01:04:08,835 --> 01:04:09,574
big movies,

1726
01:04:10,769 --> 01:04:12,070
there's bad parts.

1727
01:04:12,610 --> 01:04:13,969
We won't get you. We're not gonna get

1728
01:04:13,969 --> 01:04:15,090
into the success of what the show is

1729
01:04:15,090 --> 01:04:17,909
about. We could we could have a 150

1730
01:04:17,969 --> 01:04:20,610
hour long constant episode on all the big

1731
01:04:20,610 --> 01:04:21,110
movies

1732
01:04:22,130 --> 01:04:22,869
that were

1733
01:04:23,324 --> 01:04:25,644
shit or had bad parts or things wrong

1734
01:04:25,644 --> 01:04:27,824
with it, blah blah blah blah blah. Anyway,

1735
01:04:28,925 --> 01:04:29,744
this is awesome

1736
01:04:30,525 --> 01:04:31,025
because

1737
01:04:31,885 --> 01:04:33,025
we've got great directors,

1738
01:04:33,324 --> 01:04:35,344
got great actors all around,

1739
01:04:36,030 --> 01:04:37,730
and the writing is good. Now

1740
01:04:38,670 --> 01:04:39,969
let's talk about the shooting.

1741
01:04:40,429 --> 01:04:40,929
Yes.

1742
01:04:41,469 --> 01:04:42,610
Go for it. So

1743
01:04:43,390 --> 01:04:46,050
all these movies are very straightforward, Ridley shot.

1744
01:04:46,190 --> 01:04:46,690
Classic,

1745
01:04:47,469 --> 01:04:49,010
you know, classic framing.

1746
01:04:50,264 --> 01:04:51,005
It's it's

1747
01:04:52,105 --> 01:04:53,864
there's not a lot of, like, huge rule

1748
01:04:53,864 --> 01:04:56,184
breaking as far as the filmmaking goes, and

1749
01:04:56,184 --> 01:04:58,444
there's nothing wrong with that. That's perfectly fine.

1750
01:04:59,065 --> 01:05:01,724
But they got permission to film at Tuscon.

1751
01:05:02,344 --> 01:05:02,844
Yes.

1752
01:05:03,559 --> 01:05:05,820
And So that is the real deal, people.

1753
01:05:06,199 --> 01:05:08,300
Yes. And what was really fun

1754
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:10,679
about the way they shot at Tuscon was

1755
01:05:10,679 --> 01:05:12,860
it was like they let their hair down,

1756
01:05:13,400 --> 01:05:15,500
and they just got, like,

1757
01:05:17,155 --> 01:05:19,875
they just it you can tell in the

1758
01:05:19,875 --> 01:05:21,655
way that those shots are framed,

1759
01:05:22,114 --> 01:05:23,255
the walk through

1760
01:05:23,795 --> 01:05:25,954
shot, that they just had a lot of

1761
01:05:25,954 --> 01:05:27,795
fun with it, and that everyone there had

1762
01:05:27,795 --> 01:05:29,010
a lot of fun with it.

1763
01:05:29,570 --> 01:05:31,650
And I really enjoy that because it gives

1764
01:05:31,650 --> 01:05:33,030
it such a warm,

1765
01:05:34,050 --> 01:05:37,030
lovely feeling Mhmm. Watching those scenes.

1766
01:05:37,969 --> 01:05:38,469
And

1767
01:05:39,329 --> 01:05:41,349
I think that's my advice is that, like,

1768
01:05:42,105 --> 01:05:43,324
have fun with it.

1769
01:05:43,784 --> 01:05:44,445
You know?

1770
01:05:44,985 --> 01:05:46,744
Follow the rules and stuff. But when you

1771
01:05:46,744 --> 01:05:47,485
have something

1772
01:05:47,864 --> 01:05:48,605
like that,

1773
01:05:48,985 --> 01:05:50,824
have fun with it because that's gonna come

1774
01:05:50,824 --> 01:05:51,324
through.

1775
01:05:51,784 --> 01:05:53,385
Well and here's the thing. So I can

1776
01:05:53,385 --> 01:05:55,144
think of quite a few movies that,

1777
01:05:56,570 --> 01:05:58,489
had permission to shoot, like, a at San

1778
01:05:58,489 --> 01:06:00,670
Diego Comic Con. Right. Right?

1779
01:06:01,050 --> 01:06:03,150
Or any of these other big things.

1780
01:06:03,690 --> 01:06:04,190
And

1781
01:06:06,250 --> 01:06:08,349
they'll they'll set up shots

1782
01:06:09,054 --> 01:06:10,974
to capture, like, you know, the the the

1783
01:06:10,974 --> 01:06:11,474
broad

1784
01:06:12,255 --> 01:06:14,175
broad shots of everybody moving in the booths

1785
01:06:14,175 --> 01:06:16,175
and the stuff. Right? Mhmm. But then when

1786
01:06:16,175 --> 01:06:16,835
they cut

1787
01:06:17,375 --> 01:06:19,315
to our whatever the actors are

1788
01:06:19,695 --> 01:06:20,195
doing,

1789
01:06:21,389 --> 01:06:22,289
there's a

1790
01:06:23,389 --> 01:06:23,889
palpable

1791
01:06:24,670 --> 01:06:25,170
change

1792
01:06:25,549 --> 01:06:26,289
in feeling.

1793
01:06:26,989 --> 01:06:28,210
Yeah. And

1794
01:06:28,589 --> 01:06:29,809
you just it's like

1795
01:06:30,109 --> 01:06:30,429
that

1796
01:06:33,525 --> 01:06:34,184
Did you,

1797
01:06:34,724 --> 01:06:36,244
you didn't put yours on do not disturb

1798
01:06:36,244 --> 01:06:37,844
me? I did not. My watch just told

1799
01:06:37,844 --> 01:06:39,784
me to go to bed. What?

1800
01:06:40,724 --> 01:06:41,924
We have to come in here with, like,

1801
01:06:41,924 --> 01:06:42,585
no devices.

1802
01:06:43,204 --> 01:06:44,644
We won't get into it. There have been

1803
01:06:44,644 --> 01:06:45,144
issues.

1804
01:06:45,525 --> 01:06:46,824
So, but, anyway,

1805
01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:50,409
and there there is nothing worse than getting

1806
01:06:50,409 --> 01:06:52,969
into a movie and then getting ripped out

1807
01:06:53,210 --> 01:06:55,529
Oh, I know. Of it because of bad

1808
01:06:55,529 --> 01:06:56,029
edits,

1809
01:06:56,650 --> 01:06:57,549
bad choices.

1810
01:06:58,009 --> 01:06:58,509
Right?

1811
01:06:58,969 --> 01:06:59,469
This,

1812
01:07:00,684 --> 01:07:01,824
they had fun

1813
01:07:02,684 --> 01:07:03,425
with Tuscon,

1814
01:07:05,405 --> 01:07:06,625
but it fit

1815
01:07:07,005 --> 01:07:07,505
perfectly.

1816
01:07:07,804 --> 01:07:09,664
Yes. It's the tone.

1817
01:07:10,125 --> 01:07:11,425
And I think it's because

1818
01:07:11,885 --> 01:07:13,025
the way they write

1819
01:07:13,340 --> 01:07:15,579
and the way this was was shot and

1820
01:07:15,579 --> 01:07:16,880
directed and everything

1821
01:07:17,579 --> 01:07:19,199
is this is who they are.

1822
01:07:19,900 --> 01:07:20,400
Right?

1823
01:07:22,699 --> 01:07:24,239
They met Jeff at Tuscon.

1824
01:07:24,539 --> 01:07:26,239
Right. It's by nerds.

1825
01:07:26,940 --> 01:07:27,840
Not the podcast,

1826
01:07:28,364 --> 01:07:29,264
but the genuine article.

1827
01:07:29,885 --> 01:07:30,385
Yeah.

1828
01:07:32,204 --> 01:07:32,704
So

1829
01:07:33,085 --> 01:07:34,784
it yeah. It it

1830
01:07:36,045 --> 01:07:37,344
it's easy to watch.

1831
01:07:38,045 --> 01:07:39,025
It's engaging.

1832
01:07:39,324 --> 01:07:40,864
It keeps you

1833
01:07:42,839 --> 01:07:45,880
wanting to see what's coming next. Mhmm. You're

1834
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,819
not looking for anything except for Tanya

1835
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:49,019
in the periphery.

1836
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:53,159
You know? Keep an eye out for Tanya.

1837
01:07:53,159 --> 01:07:54,940
She'll sneak up on you. Yeah.

1838
01:07:57,315 --> 01:07:59,714
It just it's just so well done. I

1839
01:07:59,714 --> 01:08:00,214
I

1840
01:08:01,155 --> 01:08:03,255
I don't know how to, like, nitpick it

1841
01:08:03,635 --> 01:08:05,494
to talk about all the good things.

1842
01:08:05,875 --> 01:08:08,135
It's just overall done. Watch this.

1843
01:08:08,594 --> 01:08:10,534
And if you're gonna be behind the camera,

1844
01:08:11,639 --> 01:08:12,619
think about this.

1845
01:08:13,079 --> 01:08:13,579
Right?

1846
01:08:14,839 --> 01:08:15,659
The big

1847
01:08:16,199 --> 01:08:18,439
the biggest thing we've always talked about is

1848
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:19,579
write what you know.

1849
01:08:20,039 --> 01:08:21,979
Mhmm. Shoot what you know.

1850
01:08:22,935 --> 01:08:23,435
Right?

1851
01:08:24,614 --> 01:08:27,094
And I we we have watched a lot

1852
01:08:27,094 --> 01:08:28,314
of, like, short films.

1853
01:08:29,094 --> 01:08:30,875
We have watched a lot of

1854
01:08:31,255 --> 01:08:33,114
indie and and b movies

1855
01:08:34,774 --> 01:08:37,034
where they try so

1856
01:08:37,414 --> 01:08:37,914
hard

1857
01:08:39,369 --> 01:08:40,189
to emulate

1858
01:08:40,810 --> 01:08:42,109
and move beyond

1859
01:08:43,050 --> 01:08:44,270
the the tentpole

1860
01:08:44,649 --> 01:08:45,149
film

1861
01:08:45,689 --> 01:08:46,189
formula.

1862
01:08:46,569 --> 01:08:47,069
Right?

1863
01:08:47,930 --> 01:08:50,109
And that's the worst thing you can do.

1864
01:08:50,585 --> 01:08:51,704
It's worst thing you do. So we've talked

1865
01:08:51,704 --> 01:08:54,445
about Netflix. Mhmm. Netflix has, like, a template.

1866
01:08:54,585 --> 01:08:57,305
Everything on Netflix looks and feels and smells

1867
01:08:57,305 --> 01:08:57,965
the same.

1868
01:08:59,064 --> 01:09:00,045
Yeah. Right?

1869
01:09:01,145 --> 01:09:01,645
Even,

1870
01:09:01,945 --> 01:09:03,945
like, the the Korean films that we have

1871
01:09:03,945 --> 01:09:06,829
enjoyed, the series. Right. There's it's

1872
01:09:07,310 --> 01:09:09,630
They look they look and sound like every

1873
01:09:09,630 --> 01:09:11,649
other Netflix production. Yeah.

1874
01:09:12,350 --> 01:09:14,850
And I you know, just stop doing that.

1875
01:09:15,630 --> 01:09:16,449
Be you.

1876
01:09:17,630 --> 01:09:18,850
Just be

1877
01:09:19,310 --> 01:09:19,810
you.

1878
01:09:20,314 --> 01:09:23,274
Write your thing. Shoot your thing. Don't worry

1879
01:09:23,274 --> 01:09:23,774
about

1880
01:09:24,715 --> 01:09:26,574
are you spot on on the color correction.

1881
01:09:26,954 --> 01:09:28,095
Right. You know what?

1882
01:09:28,475 --> 01:09:29,774
You just do what you can.

1883
01:09:30,795 --> 01:09:32,475
Do what you can. Mhmm. If you like,

1884
01:09:32,475 --> 01:09:33,774
if you're just starting out,

1885
01:09:34,074 --> 01:09:36,340
you'll get it. Right? 5th film in, you'd

1886
01:09:36,340 --> 01:09:38,100
be like, oh, yeah. This is how it's

1887
01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:39,060
supposed to be. And you'll look at your

1888
01:09:39,060 --> 01:09:41,300
other films and be like, yeah. I can

1889
01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:42,039
see now

1890
01:09:42,500 --> 01:09:44,119
where I just missed the mark.

1891
01:09:44,579 --> 01:09:46,579
Yeah. You know? But that's a badge of

1892
01:09:46,579 --> 01:09:47,079
honor.

1893
01:09:47,595 --> 01:09:49,534
There's nothing wrong with getting better.

1894
01:09:49,994 --> 01:09:52,314
There's nothing wrong with learning. Do in life.

1895
01:09:52,314 --> 01:09:54,635
Right? Yeah. There's nothing wrong with learning from,

1896
01:09:54,635 --> 01:09:57,675
you know, things that you're doing. There's, an

1897
01:09:57,675 --> 01:10:00,314
adage that goes around that's the ceramics class

1898
01:10:00,314 --> 01:10:02,255
teacher. I don't know if you remember it.

1899
01:10:02,939 --> 01:10:04,800
Where he, like, splits the class in 2

1900
01:10:04,939 --> 01:10:06,380
and says to one half of the class,

1901
01:10:06,380 --> 01:10:08,699
you're gonna be graded on how many pots

1902
01:10:08,699 --> 01:10:09,439
you make

1903
01:10:09,819 --> 01:10:11,600
over the course of the semester Mhmm.

1904
01:10:12,140 --> 01:10:15,204
By, like, how many in weight. Right. You're

1905
01:10:15,204 --> 01:10:16,265
going for quantity.

1906
01:10:16,645 --> 01:10:18,164
And he tells the other half, you're going

1907
01:10:18,164 --> 01:10:18,905
for quality.

1908
01:10:19,685 --> 01:10:22,164
Right? You can make one pot, but it

1909
01:10:22,164 --> 01:10:23,625
needs to be a perfect pot.

1910
01:10:25,045 --> 01:10:26,585
And at the end of the semester,

1911
01:10:27,569 --> 01:10:28,069
right,

1912
01:10:29,010 --> 01:10:31,170
the best pots in the class are the

1913
01:10:31,170 --> 01:10:33,109
ones that have made quantity.

1914
01:10:33,569 --> 01:10:35,810
Right? Yeah. Because they've just been banging them

1915
01:10:35,810 --> 01:10:37,510
out, getting better every time,

1916
01:10:37,969 --> 01:10:39,989
or there's the ones who focused on quality

1917
01:10:40,449 --> 01:10:40,949
have

1918
01:10:41,250 --> 01:10:42,469
not made anything.

1919
01:10:43,734 --> 01:10:46,055
Right? Right. They have not made a perfect

1920
01:10:46,055 --> 01:10:48,074
pot because they've spent all semester

1921
01:10:48,694 --> 01:10:50,135
trying to figure out what would be the

1922
01:10:50,135 --> 01:10:52,135
perfect pot to make Yeah. What's that recipe?

1923
01:10:52,215 --> 01:10:54,454
Instead of just doing it. The dynamics, the

1924
01:10:54,454 --> 01:10:56,154
engineering behind it. Right.

1925
01:10:57,170 --> 01:10:58,390
Yep. Well,

1926
01:10:58,770 --> 01:11:00,210
and and you can see that in, like,

1927
01:11:00,210 --> 01:11:01,110
not just film,

1928
01:11:01,890 --> 01:11:02,930
but you can see it in, you know,

1929
01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:04,449
houses and every I mean, just the world

1930
01:11:04,449 --> 01:11:05,989
around us. It's become so

1931
01:11:07,250 --> 01:11:09,970
right? Because everyone's trying so hard to be

1932
01:11:09,970 --> 01:11:10,949
the next whatever

1933
01:11:11,774 --> 01:11:13,234
in whatever it is they're doing,

1934
01:11:13,534 --> 01:11:15,935
and they're just missing the boat. Meanwhile, the

1935
01:11:15,935 --> 01:11:17,314
people who are getting noticed,

1936
01:11:17,694 --> 01:11:19,614
the people who are having fun and becoming

1937
01:11:19,614 --> 01:11:20,114
successful,

1938
01:11:20,574 --> 01:11:23,454
or even not success because lord knows, we've

1939
01:11:23,454 --> 01:11:24,675
said this many times.

1940
01:11:24,979 --> 01:11:27,300
If you're involved in any of this, you're

1941
01:11:27,300 --> 01:11:27,800
mental.

1942
01:11:28,340 --> 01:11:31,000
Right. There's something wrong with you mentally, because

1943
01:11:31,060 --> 01:11:31,560
we,

1944
01:11:32,100 --> 01:11:32,920
as creatives,

1945
01:11:33,619 --> 01:11:35,560
can't function with a normal mind.

1946
01:11:36,659 --> 01:11:38,265
It would kill us. If you can be

1947
01:11:38,265 --> 01:11:41,244
happy doing anything else Yeah. Anything at all,

1948
01:11:41,625 --> 01:11:44,185
do that thing. Do that thing. Because this

1949
01:11:44,185 --> 01:11:47,725
is, like, just sorrow and rejection and disappointment

1950
01:11:48,185 --> 01:11:50,265
and all kinds of stuff. I mean It's

1951
01:11:50,265 --> 01:11:51,885
hard. Well, we

1952
01:11:52,440 --> 01:11:54,600
tried to launch a campaign. Well, we did

1953
01:11:54,600 --> 01:11:55,340
launch a campaign

1954
01:11:55,800 --> 01:11:57,960
for a short film Yeah. That we wanted

1955
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,619
to make.

1956
01:11:59,079 --> 01:11:59,579
And

1957
01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,060
it didn't go as we had hoped,

1958
01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:03,579
so we had to pivot.

1959
01:12:04,375 --> 01:12:06,054
We're still pivoting. There's a lot of pivots

1960
01:12:06,054 --> 01:12:07,014
going on. Mhmm.

1961
01:12:07,814 --> 01:12:09,514
But, you know, its day will come.

1962
01:12:11,094 --> 01:12:13,835
It will. Well, not for nothing. That script

1963
01:12:14,135 --> 01:12:15,734
that we wanted to shoot. I was wondering

1964
01:12:15,734 --> 01:12:17,175
if you were gonna mention it. Oh, yeah.

1965
01:12:17,175 --> 01:12:19,014
I'm gonna mention it. We worked too long

1966
01:12:19,014 --> 01:12:20,949
and hard at this stuff to let shit

1967
01:12:20,949 --> 01:12:22,090
like that blow by.

1968
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:25,670
Most of you b siders, you had you

1969
01:12:25,670 --> 01:12:28,069
know that we have had scripts going to

1970
01:12:28,069 --> 01:12:30,810
contests, and we've done quarter finalists, semifinalists.

1971
01:12:31,909 --> 01:12:34,744
We've never we always the bridesmaid, never the

1972
01:12:34,744 --> 01:12:36,844
bride. We've always been so

1973
01:12:37,304 --> 01:12:38,824
close, but, you know, there can be only

1974
01:12:38,824 --> 01:12:41,304
1. Yes. And we just had but we

1975
01:12:41,304 --> 01:12:42,844
finally made it to the finalists

1976
01:12:43,385 --> 01:12:44,925
Yes. Out of, like, 1300

1977
01:12:45,545 --> 01:12:46,045
total

1978
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:47,420
scripts.

1979
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,180
There are 11 finalists? There are 11 finalists.

1980
01:12:51,239 --> 01:12:53,340
That's crazy to me. We made it.

1981
01:12:54,359 --> 01:12:56,840
And we think it's a great little short,

1982
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:58,460
and we wrote it to be economical.

1983
01:12:58,840 --> 01:13:00,555
And this is something what we're talking about.

1984
01:13:00,635 --> 01:13:03,215
Write what you know, shoot what you know.

1985
01:13:03,435 --> 01:13:05,375
K. So we don't know

1986
01:13:05,675 --> 01:13:07,055
about 15 locations

1987
01:13:07,435 --> 01:13:09,755
and getting equipment here and there, and and

1988
01:13:09,755 --> 01:13:11,354
if making this film, it would be just

1989
01:13:11,354 --> 01:13:14,029
us. Yeah. We are the only 2 people,

1990
01:13:14,569 --> 01:13:17,050
with possibly if we had, budgeted for a

1991
01:13:17,050 --> 01:13:20,170
makeup person. Mhmm. Right? And a costumer, because

1992
01:13:20,170 --> 01:13:21,149
it's period piece.

1993
01:13:22,569 --> 01:13:24,029
But they're, you know, temporary.

1994
01:13:24,489 --> 01:13:26,489
Right? And then the actors, you know, budgeted

1995
01:13:26,489 --> 01:13:27,789
for them to get paid appropriately.

1996
01:13:28,465 --> 01:13:29,445
It's stag wages

1997
01:13:29,905 --> 01:13:31,905
people even though we're not involved in any

1998
01:13:31,905 --> 01:13:33,045
of that. You know, we're

1999
01:13:33,664 --> 01:13:35,585
we're gonna pay people. Let's try and pay

2000
01:13:35,585 --> 01:13:37,525
them right. Yeah. But, anyway,

2001
01:13:38,064 --> 01:13:39,125
didn't work out.

2002
01:13:39,905 --> 01:13:41,489
It just it just didn't work out.

2003
01:13:42,369 --> 01:13:44,530
But we're still gonna keep pushing it like

2004
01:13:44,530 --> 01:13:46,130
this, and the grand prize is it gets

2005
01:13:46,130 --> 01:13:46,630
made.

2006
01:13:47,010 --> 01:13:50,130
Which would be amazing. Yeah. And that's a

2007
01:13:50,130 --> 01:13:50,630
little,

2008
01:13:51,250 --> 01:13:53,030
FYI folks. If you do enter

2009
01:13:53,570 --> 01:13:54,470
your scripts

2010
01:13:55,765 --> 01:13:58,005
into a contest, make sure it's a contest

2011
01:13:58,005 --> 01:13:59,685
that has something to do with you getting

2012
01:13:59,685 --> 01:14:00,345
a meeting

2013
01:14:00,965 --> 01:14:01,605
with somebody

2014
01:14:02,005 --> 01:14:04,485
Mhmm. Or getting it made or at least

2015
01:14:04,485 --> 01:14:05,225
a grant

2016
01:14:05,685 --> 01:14:09,100
or something towards it. If you're in contests

2017
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:10,859
just to win money, like $5,000

2018
01:14:11,159 --> 01:14:13,079
for first prize, it's not gonna help you

2019
01:14:13,079 --> 01:14:14,780
at all. Might help pay the bills,

2020
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:16,380
right,

2021
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:18,220
for a short period.

2022
01:14:20,375 --> 01:14:22,854
But you you're you're Go for progress. Move

2023
01:14:22,854 --> 01:14:25,435
forward. Yeah. You want something to actually happen.

2024
01:14:25,655 --> 01:14:27,095
And if it's not gonna get made, you

2025
01:14:27,095 --> 01:14:29,515
wanna sit down with somebody who makes movies.

2026
01:14:30,055 --> 01:14:32,534
Yeah. Right? That's the grand prize. That's what

2027
01:14:32,534 --> 01:14:33,195
you want.

2028
01:14:33,735 --> 01:14:35,435
That's kinda part of why we started

2029
01:14:35,789 --> 01:14:36,770
that we were anxious

2030
01:14:37,389 --> 01:14:39,569
to bring this podcast back is because

2031
01:14:39,949 --> 01:14:42,189
what we gained from doing this podcast was

2032
01:14:42,189 --> 01:14:43,170
not money.

2033
01:14:43,630 --> 01:14:44,130
Clearly.

2034
01:14:46,670 --> 01:14:48,270
And that wasn't what it was for. I

2035
01:14:48,270 --> 01:14:51,010
mean, obviously, we want to not, you know,

2036
01:14:52,125 --> 01:14:54,045
go broke trying to keep this podcast on

2037
01:14:54,045 --> 01:14:55,184
the air. But

2038
01:14:56,764 --> 01:14:58,385
we're not in it to, you know,

2039
01:14:58,844 --> 01:15:01,484
become famous podcasters or make a ton of

2040
01:15:01,484 --> 01:15:03,164
money from it. That's not what it's for.

2041
01:15:03,164 --> 01:15:05,085
What we gained from doing this podcast before

2042
01:15:05,085 --> 01:15:06,630
we took our break was we made

2043
01:15:07,109 --> 01:15:08,250
so many friends

2044
01:15:08,949 --> 01:15:10,869
and and connections Mhmm.

2045
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:13,130
And and just meaningful

2046
01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:14,010
interactions

2047
01:15:14,310 --> 01:15:16,630
with people in our tribe who are interested

2048
01:15:16,630 --> 01:15:19,130
in doing what we're interested in doing. Yeah.

2049
01:15:19,545 --> 01:15:22,265
And that was the value that this has

2050
01:15:22,265 --> 01:15:23,005
to us.

2051
01:15:23,545 --> 01:15:24,045
Yes.

2052
01:15:26,185 --> 01:15:28,505
I mean, on that note so, yeah, we

2053
01:15:28,744 --> 01:15:31,805
they're not just friends. They're they're they're connections

2054
01:15:32,104 --> 01:15:33,164
to a world

2055
01:15:34,250 --> 01:15:37,210
we love living in. Yeah. Right? So it's

2056
01:15:37,210 --> 01:15:39,130
not just that, you know, hey, I know

2057
01:15:39,130 --> 01:15:41,210
this guy here. It's like, I know this

2058
01:15:41,210 --> 01:15:43,390
guy who does, you know, all this stuff.

2059
01:15:44,090 --> 01:15:46,969
Right? Yeah. And we get exposed to it.

2060
01:15:46,969 --> 01:15:47,609
I mean, we've had

2061
01:15:48,375 --> 01:15:50,135
we just we never imagined. I think we

2062
01:15:50,135 --> 01:15:51,895
mentioned this in an episode or 2 way

2063
01:15:51,895 --> 01:15:52,395
back.

2064
01:15:52,774 --> 01:15:55,335
We just never imagined we would meet so

2065
01:15:55,335 --> 01:15:56,234
many fantastic

2066
01:15:56,935 --> 01:15:58,774
people. And I'm gonna go all the way

2067
01:15:58,774 --> 01:15:59,994
back to our first episode.

2068
01:16:01,189 --> 01:16:03,770
Yeah. You know? Space Trucker Bruce.

2069
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:06,649
No.

2070
01:16:08,229 --> 01:16:10,310
Yeah. Space Trucker Bruce. I thought Bad Taste

2071
01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:13,449
was our first. Space Trucker was our second.

2072
01:16:13,510 --> 01:16:15,670
Chase Trucker Bruce was our first episode. Was

2073
01:16:15,670 --> 01:16:18,784
that? Yeah. Mhmm. I have to look now.

2074
01:16:20,685 --> 01:16:23,164
It was. Okay. I love you. I love

2075
01:16:23,164 --> 01:16:23,664
you.

2076
01:16:25,244 --> 01:16:26,225
Anyway, Anton

2077
01:16:26,925 --> 01:16:28,704
Anton Doiron? Doiron?

2078
01:16:29,085 --> 01:16:30,864
I Doiron? Doiron.

2079
01:16:31,250 --> 01:16:32,689
I I you know what? I will never

2080
01:16:32,689 --> 01:16:34,529
say his name. Anton, I am so, so

2081
01:16:34,529 --> 01:16:35,969
sorry. And I just

2082
01:16:36,770 --> 01:16:37,510
you know what?

2083
01:16:39,250 --> 01:16:40,149
Laid the hate.

2084
01:16:40,850 --> 01:16:43,170
Yes. I deserve it. I wanna watch Girl

2085
01:16:43,170 --> 01:16:45,270
Yeti in a spaceship so bad.

2086
01:16:45,614 --> 01:16:47,935
Anton. So we did space trucker Bruce. Mhmm.

2087
01:16:47,935 --> 01:16:49,295
And we covered that whole thing, and we

2088
01:16:49,295 --> 01:16:51,875
had an interview with him and, Carl.

2089
01:16:52,255 --> 01:16:53,314
Mhmm. And,

2090
01:16:53,935 --> 01:16:55,715
you know, played space trucker Bruce,

2091
01:16:56,414 --> 01:16:57,715
Carl Sears. And,

2092
01:16:58,420 --> 01:16:59,699
you know, they they told us about him

2093
01:16:59,699 --> 01:17:01,380
building a set in his he did all

2094
01:17:01,380 --> 01:17:03,399
this by himself. He built sets

2095
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:05,960
in his house, in his kid's room.

2096
01:17:07,300 --> 01:17:08,439
It was just wild.

2097
01:17:08,899 --> 01:17:09,399
But

2098
01:17:10,020 --> 01:17:12,199
the the one thing about it is

2099
01:17:13,095 --> 01:17:14,155
that this movie,

2100
01:17:14,775 --> 01:17:16,635
Love Song, William H. Shaw,

2101
01:17:17,494 --> 01:17:18,875
and Space Truck or Bruce

2102
01:17:19,335 --> 01:17:22,775
are pure independent film. All the aggravation. It

2103
01:17:22,775 --> 01:17:23,755
took forever

2104
01:17:24,949 --> 01:17:26,869
for Anton to get that made. And Girl

2105
01:17:26,869 --> 01:17:27,850
Yeti in a spaceship

2106
01:17:29,909 --> 01:17:31,670
He's doing it all on his own, and

2107
01:17:31,670 --> 01:17:33,510
it's taken an age. He's been rocking that

2108
01:17:33,510 --> 01:17:35,670
since we started this. But he's doing it.

2109
01:17:35,670 --> 01:17:38,569
Right? 2019 is when we first started. Yeah.

2110
01:17:38,734 --> 01:17:39,554
It's 2024,

2111
01:17:40,814 --> 01:17:42,274
and he's still putting updates

2112
01:17:42,654 --> 01:17:45,135
on because he does all of his modeling

2113
01:17:45,135 --> 01:17:47,614
in Blender. He does all the renderings and

2114
01:17:47,614 --> 01:17:48,114
everything.

2115
01:17:48,494 --> 01:17:48,994
Mhmm.

2116
01:17:49,774 --> 01:17:51,154
And it takes time.

2117
01:17:51,854 --> 01:17:53,074
If you want

2118
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:55,739
to make a movie in 90 days

2119
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:57,820
and then

2120
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:00,619
have it, like, ready to rock,

2121
01:18:02,199 --> 01:18:02,699
you're

2122
01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:05,180
you're in the wrong business.

2123
01:18:06,215 --> 01:18:07,414
Yeah. If you're trying to do it on

2124
01:18:07,414 --> 01:18:09,335
your own, you know. Yeah. You got big

2125
01:18:09,335 --> 01:18:10,934
money behind you. You can hire people to

2126
01:18:10,934 --> 01:18:12,054
do all the stuff. But Yeah. But if

2127
01:18:12,054 --> 01:18:13,414
you got big money behind you, you wouldn't

2128
01:18:13,414 --> 01:18:14,715
be listening to this podcast

2129
01:18:16,054 --> 01:18:18,135
about b movies and independent films. You'd be

2130
01:18:18,135 --> 01:18:20,395
listening to somebody talking about the the blockbusters

2131
01:18:20,694 --> 01:18:22,539
and the 150 to

2132
01:18:23,079 --> 01:18:23,980
$500,000,000 budgets

2133
01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:25,659
for, you know,

2134
01:18:26,440 --> 01:18:28,199
Robert Downey Junior is supposed to be getting,

2135
01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:31,180
like, an insane amount for playing doctor Doom.

2136
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,720
You know? That's that's a world that we

2137
01:18:33,720 --> 01:18:34,460
don't understand.

2138
01:18:35,954 --> 01:18:37,494
And, you know but, anyway,

2139
01:18:38,194 --> 01:18:40,194
you you have to love this, and it's

2140
01:18:40,194 --> 01:18:42,755
a slow process. And like I said, it's

2141
01:18:42,755 --> 01:18:43,255
painful.

2142
01:18:44,114 --> 01:18:44,614
It's,

2143
01:18:44,994 --> 01:18:46,774
you know, Kyle Hester

2144
01:18:47,640 --> 01:18:49,979
is still trying to get preacher 6 going.

2145
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,400
And we will be talking to him at

2146
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,280
some point too. Get him on and just

2147
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,680
talk about what it's like. I can't wait

2148
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,594
to talk to Kyle again. I know. He's

2149
01:19:00,594 --> 01:19:02,295
he's awesome. I watch his videos

2150
01:19:02,835 --> 01:19:03,655
all the time

2151
01:19:04,114 --> 01:19:06,614
because, you know, a, it helps.

2152
01:19:07,314 --> 01:19:09,234
Yeah. Make sure I click the like button

2153
01:19:09,234 --> 01:19:10,454
and, you know,

2154
01:19:11,314 --> 01:19:13,309
And and Lowell Dean's got a new movie

2155
01:19:13,309 --> 01:19:14,949
coming out too. Dean's got a new one

2156
01:19:14,949 --> 01:19:17,270
coming out. Silas has been working on a

2157
01:19:17,270 --> 01:19:17,770
series.

2158
01:19:18,149 --> 01:19:20,869
Yes. Silas Doll. I mean, there's all folks,

2159
01:19:20,869 --> 01:19:23,270
there's all these people that that we've met,

2160
01:19:23,270 --> 01:19:25,590
and we get to keep track of and

2161
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:27,510
share in their successes. And I think that's

2162
01:19:27,510 --> 01:19:29,185
the biggest thing. Yes.

2163
01:19:29,564 --> 01:19:30,064
Deciders

2164
01:19:30,444 --> 01:19:33,005
that we want to impart upon you. Yes.

2165
01:19:33,005 --> 01:19:34,925
You wanna be successful. Yes. You wanna get

2166
01:19:34,925 --> 01:19:37,484
your stuff done. But you know what? Make

2167
01:19:37,484 --> 01:19:38,225
those connections.

2168
01:19:39,645 --> 01:19:40,145
Help

2169
01:19:40,524 --> 01:19:41,024
people

2170
01:19:42,090 --> 01:19:43,070
as you can.

2171
01:19:43,770 --> 01:19:44,670
But more importantly,

2172
01:19:45,449 --> 01:19:46,670
revel in their success.

2173
01:19:47,050 --> 01:19:48,750
Celebrate it. A 100%.

2174
01:19:49,050 --> 01:19:50,890
Because we are all a single tribe. If

2175
01:19:50,890 --> 01:19:52,570
all the hunters go out and only 2

2176
01:19:52,570 --> 01:19:54,270
come back with food, don't get pissy.

2177
01:19:55,085 --> 01:19:56,545
Revel in their success.

2178
01:19:56,925 --> 01:19:58,864
Yeah. Because as they succeed,

2179
01:19:59,164 --> 01:20:01,585
I know it's sometimes hard to clock this,

2180
01:20:02,685 --> 01:20:03,185
but

2181
01:20:03,645 --> 01:20:04,545
that successful

2182
01:20:04,925 --> 01:20:05,425
hunter

2183
01:20:07,020 --> 01:20:08,000
feeds us all.

2184
01:20:08,859 --> 01:20:11,199
Yeah. Right? We all benefit from the success.

2185
01:20:11,899 --> 01:20:13,520
Because every independent filmmaker

2186
01:20:14,220 --> 01:20:17,180
or or b movie that just, like, breaks

2187
01:20:17,180 --> 01:20:19,680
out of the pen and goes wild.

2188
01:20:20,155 --> 01:20:20,655
Right?

2189
01:20:21,354 --> 01:20:22,335
It's a clear signal

2190
01:20:22,715 --> 01:20:23,774
these things work.

2191
01:20:24,155 --> 01:20:26,555
The audience loves this kind of stuff. And,

2192
01:20:26,555 --> 01:20:28,875
yeah, this is where money could go and

2193
01:20:28,875 --> 01:20:31,354
should go. Right. Right? One day, it'd be

2194
01:20:31,354 --> 01:20:31,854
awesome

2195
01:20:33,210 --> 01:20:33,710
if

2196
01:20:34,170 --> 01:20:36,989
If the big studios became obsolete because,

2197
01:20:37,449 --> 01:20:39,210
you know Or just switch their shit around

2198
01:20:39,210 --> 01:20:40,329
and be like, you know what? We could

2199
01:20:40,329 --> 01:20:41,550
make 50 movies

2200
01:20:42,409 --> 01:20:44,430
for every fucking Marvel film

2201
01:20:45,024 --> 01:20:45,524
that,

2202
01:20:46,064 --> 01:20:47,585
you know And the money they put into

2203
01:20:47,585 --> 01:20:49,744
those movies, if they split that up, you

2204
01:20:49,744 --> 01:20:50,484
know, to

2205
01:20:51,104 --> 01:20:51,604
300,

2206
01:20:52,225 --> 01:20:55,505
500 different independent films. Well, let's look at

2207
01:20:55,505 --> 01:20:57,505
this because you Imagine the content they could

2208
01:20:57,505 --> 01:20:59,664
get. Do you remember when we were talking

2209
01:20:59,664 --> 01:21:00,324
to Cliff

2210
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,180
and and the guys, right,

2211
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:03,460
in the interview?

2212
01:21:04,079 --> 01:21:04,579
And

2213
01:21:05,039 --> 01:21:06,960
Cliff commented, well, I wouldn't know what to

2214
01:21:06,960 --> 01:21:07,699
do with $50,000.

2215
01:21:10,319 --> 01:21:12,399
You know? Right. That's the kind of thing.

2216
01:21:12,399 --> 01:21:14,399
So this was roughly 30,000. So let's take

2217
01:21:14,399 --> 01:21:16,420
30,000 for this wonderful movie.

2218
01:21:17,015 --> 01:21:19,015
What would you do with 300,000,000? How many

2219
01:21:19,015 --> 01:21:20,534
of these movies can you make? It's real

2220
01:21:20,534 --> 01:21:22,135
simple. Just, you know, do the math. It's

2221
01:21:22,135 --> 01:21:22,635
tense.

2222
01:21:23,414 --> 01:21:26,695
And we will always maintain these movies have

2223
01:21:26,695 --> 01:21:27,515
more heart

2224
01:21:27,975 --> 01:21:30,475
or and and not just like an interromantic,

2225
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:32,960
you know,

2226
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,380
I don't even know what I'm looking for.

2227
01:21:36,239 --> 01:21:38,800
Just the romanticism of movie making. La Vie

2228
01:21:38,800 --> 01:21:40,579
Boehm. You know. Yeah.

2229
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,840
You know, it it's it it's the heart

2230
01:21:43,840 --> 01:21:44,579
of cinema.

2231
01:21:45,545 --> 01:21:48,284
This is why movies were made. You know?

2232
01:21:49,625 --> 01:21:52,824
It it is an art. Yeah. And as

2233
01:21:52,824 --> 01:21:54,764
humans, we need art.

2234
01:21:55,064 --> 01:21:55,564
Yes.

2235
01:21:56,264 --> 01:21:57,000
We do.

2236
01:21:57,319 --> 01:21:57,819
Yeah.

2237
01:21:58,279 --> 01:22:00,380
You do. Yeah. Art helps us to contextualize

2238
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:03,020
our lives and give them meaning.

2239
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:06,779
Yes. Well, and art helps us interpret

2240
01:22:07,399 --> 01:22:09,515
the things around us in

2241
01:22:10,774 --> 01:22:12,074
either a different way

2242
01:22:12,614 --> 01:22:14,395
or a more appreciative way

2243
01:22:15,574 --> 01:22:17,274
or makes us more insightful.

2244
01:22:18,215 --> 01:22:19,814
Right? You see you just when you can

2245
01:22:19,814 --> 01:22:21,515
see something just a little bit different,

2246
01:22:22,890 --> 01:22:24,189
your world can change.

2247
01:22:24,729 --> 01:22:25,710
Your whole path

2248
01:22:26,489 --> 01:22:29,529
can go, you know, one one direction you

2249
01:22:29,529 --> 01:22:30,350
never thought.

2250
01:22:31,050 --> 01:22:32,590
We have 3 indoor cats

2251
01:22:33,369 --> 01:22:35,310
and, like, 7 outdoor cats

2252
01:22:36,055 --> 01:22:38,875
I'm here in the middle of fucking nowhere.

2253
01:22:39,255 --> 01:22:41,755
I'm allergic to cats. And no mice.

2254
01:22:42,375 --> 01:22:44,555
But we have no mice. Right?

2255
01:22:45,654 --> 01:22:46,475
It's amazing.

2256
01:22:47,015 --> 01:22:48,154
But, oh my god.

2257
01:22:50,289 --> 01:22:53,090
Not anything I would have ever thought would

2258
01:22:53,090 --> 01:22:54,710
happen. If you'd have told me,

2259
01:22:55,090 --> 01:22:56,869
you know, 5 years ago

2260
01:22:57,250 --> 01:22:59,409
or further back, this is where you're gonna

2261
01:22:59,409 --> 01:23:01,970
be, we're like, you know, you need to

2262
01:23:01,970 --> 01:23:02,949
lay off a crack.

2263
01:23:03,475 --> 01:23:03,975
Mhmm.

2264
01:23:04,275 --> 01:23:04,775
Right?

2265
01:23:05,395 --> 01:23:07,074
But here we are because we had those

2266
01:23:07,074 --> 01:23:07,555
moments

2267
01:23:07,954 --> 01:23:08,395
Mhmm.

2268
01:23:08,835 --> 01:23:09,335
That

2269
01:23:10,114 --> 01:23:11,015
rather than

2270
01:23:12,275 --> 01:23:13,655
looking at from, like, a utilitarian

2271
01:23:14,515 --> 01:23:16,800
approach, which is kinda how I approach life.

2272
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,420
It is how you approach life. Utility

2273
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:19,460
oriented,

2274
01:23:20,479 --> 01:23:22,179
but I think that's tempered with

2275
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,960
looking beyond the pale. Right? Yeah. You know,

2276
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:30,015
it's well, hold on. And we had a

2277
01:23:30,015 --> 01:23:32,175
discussion, and, you know, I was I was

2278
01:23:32,175 --> 01:23:33,875
on I looked at it a different way,

2279
01:23:34,175 --> 01:23:36,094
and I was on board. Yeah. I wanna

2280
01:23:36,094 --> 01:23:37,774
do this. Like, you know what? I'm there.

2281
01:23:37,774 --> 01:23:39,375
Yeah. I'm a much more leaf in the

2282
01:23:39,375 --> 01:23:41,234
wind kind of person. Yeah.

2283
01:23:42,699 --> 01:23:45,199
But because I can do that, yeah, it

2284
01:23:46,539 --> 01:23:48,460
it makes it easy to make these kinds

2285
01:23:48,460 --> 01:23:51,359
of decisions. Mhmm. And it's been rough

2286
01:23:51,979 --> 01:23:52,479
because,

2287
01:23:52,780 --> 01:23:53,180
you know

2288
01:23:54,395 --> 01:23:56,155
it's been a lot harder than I thought

2289
01:23:56,155 --> 01:23:57,835
it would be, and there have been a

2290
01:23:57,835 --> 01:24:00,494
lot of twists and turns and surprises. And

2291
01:24:01,595 --> 01:24:03,515
But here we are. Yeah. You know, that's

2292
01:24:03,515 --> 01:24:05,375
the bottom line. Here we are,

2293
01:24:05,675 --> 01:24:07,454
and we're back into

2294
01:24:08,489 --> 01:24:10,250
pushing to do our thing. Because not only

2295
01:24:10,250 --> 01:24:12,189
are we doing the podcast again, BS McGillicuddy

2296
01:24:12,250 --> 01:24:13,930
is gonna fire up again. Mhmm. Gonna get

2297
01:24:13,930 --> 01:24:15,449
some more of those episodes up because I

2298
01:24:15,449 --> 01:24:17,289
love doing them because if there's anything I

2299
01:24:17,289 --> 01:24:18,430
love to do is rant.

2300
01:24:18,890 --> 01:24:21,609
And what's better than an alien rant. Alien

2301
01:24:21,609 --> 01:24:23,289
ranting about the stupid shit that goes on

2302
01:24:23,289 --> 01:24:24,029
on this planet.

2303
01:24:25,024 --> 01:24:27,685
But we're also going to be moving into

2304
01:24:28,545 --> 01:24:29,445
the the filmmaking.

2305
01:24:29,824 --> 01:24:31,604
And we're gonna just do what we can.

2306
01:24:31,905 --> 01:24:33,505
Yeah. Do what we can. We got some

2307
01:24:33,505 --> 01:24:35,984
ideas. We just spend a few $100 to

2308
01:24:35,984 --> 01:24:36,645
get some

2309
01:24:37,729 --> 01:24:40,310
mechanical things to make this, you know, work.

2310
01:24:40,609 --> 01:24:41,969
And we'll just use what we've got, and

2311
01:24:41,969 --> 01:24:43,649
we'll just go with that. And that's kinda

2312
01:24:43,649 --> 01:24:45,890
like our biggest thing. Right? Use what you've

2313
01:24:45,890 --> 01:24:48,369
got. Got an iPhone? Use it. Yeah. We

2314
01:24:48,369 --> 01:24:51,225
got old cameras in there. Got that that

2315
01:24:51,225 --> 01:24:54,425
old little Panasonic handheld camcorder with shit sound

2316
01:24:54,425 --> 01:24:56,844
and no jacks to plug anything into it

2317
01:24:56,984 --> 01:24:57,484
from,

2318
01:24:58,824 --> 01:24:59,324
what,

2319
01:25:00,585 --> 01:25:02,045
10, 11 years ago?

2320
01:25:02,689 --> 01:25:04,689
Well, we've just been in that. But, yes,

2321
01:25:04,689 --> 01:25:06,930
it does. Well, but if that's what we

2322
01:25:06,930 --> 01:25:08,850
had, that's what we that's what we would

2323
01:25:08,850 --> 01:25:10,789
have if that's all that there was.

2324
01:25:11,250 --> 01:25:12,390
So, you know,

2325
01:25:12,770 --> 01:25:14,229
do the stuff because

2326
01:25:14,770 --> 01:25:17,170
songs like or songs. Let's just look at

2327
01:25:17,170 --> 01:25:18,229
it. Love Song,

2328
01:25:18,585 --> 01:25:20,284
William H. Shaw, movies like this are

2329
01:25:22,985 --> 01:25:23,725
a testament

2330
01:25:25,465 --> 01:25:25,965
to

2331
01:25:26,985 --> 01:25:28,744
it can be done, and it can be

2332
01:25:28,744 --> 01:25:29,645
done good

2333
01:25:30,265 --> 01:25:32,925
and done well. Good. It can't. Awesome grammar.

2334
01:25:33,430 --> 01:25:35,270
It it can be done good. But done

2335
01:25:35,270 --> 01:25:37,350
done good. But it's right there in the

2336
01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:39,029
title, but, you know, the love song. This

2337
01:25:39,029 --> 01:25:40,810
movie is a love song to

2338
01:25:41,270 --> 01:25:42,569
film. Yes.

2339
01:25:43,909 --> 01:25:45,770
And and to, you know,

2340
01:25:46,195 --> 01:25:48,195
geekdom and and kind of all the things

2341
01:25:48,195 --> 01:25:49,255
that go with it,

2342
01:25:50,835 --> 01:25:51,814
and it shows.

2343
01:25:52,195 --> 01:25:54,055
Well and I think most important,

2344
01:25:56,515 --> 01:25:58,935
none of these movies have been written

2345
01:26:00,270 --> 01:26:00,770
to

2346
01:26:02,829 --> 01:26:04,829
I don't know. What's what's the word? Comic

2347
01:26:04,829 --> 01:26:05,329
eyes,

2348
01:26:05,949 --> 01:26:06,689
the characters.

2349
01:26:07,310 --> 01:26:10,530
Right. Right? It's this isn't a spoof.

2350
01:26:10,989 --> 01:26:12,530
This isn't a parody

2351
01:26:13,594 --> 01:26:14,094
on

2352
01:26:14,475 --> 01:26:16,875
people. You know, there are people who love

2353
01:26:16,875 --> 01:26:17,694
comic books.

2354
01:26:18,715 --> 01:26:21,515
They're lawyers. They're doctors. They're janitors. They're all

2355
01:26:21,515 --> 01:26:22,814
kinds of people. Yeah.

2356
01:26:23,835 --> 01:26:25,375
They they have taken this

2357
01:26:26,039 --> 01:26:27,420
and just straightforward.

2358
01:26:28,359 --> 01:26:30,300
Yeah. Nerds and geeks were a little weird,

2359
01:26:30,679 --> 01:26:32,939
you know, to to the normals, but,

2360
01:26:33,639 --> 01:26:35,159
you know, we get it. They don't need

2361
01:26:35,159 --> 01:26:35,659
to.

2362
01:26:40,425 --> 01:26:42,925
So with the shooting, let's talk budget.

2363
01:26:43,465 --> 01:26:44,845
Okay. K. So $30,000.

2364
01:26:45,225 --> 01:26:47,545
We gotta pay people. We wanna pay people

2365
01:26:47,545 --> 01:26:48,524
for their time.

2366
01:26:48,824 --> 01:26:50,045
Gotta have the equipment.

2367
01:26:51,625 --> 01:26:52,590
And and Eric

2368
01:26:52,989 --> 01:26:55,869
is very, very Eric Schumacher, who plays John,

2369
01:26:55,869 --> 01:26:56,369
he's

2370
01:26:56,909 --> 01:26:57,409
very,

2371
01:26:58,429 --> 01:27:00,349
you know, very up about paying people for

2372
01:27:00,349 --> 01:27:02,189
their time. That matters a lot to him,

2373
01:27:02,189 --> 01:27:03,630
and it matters a lot to everyone on

2374
01:27:03,630 --> 01:27:05,889
this production. Yes. But I know in particular

2375
01:27:06,029 --> 01:27:08,529
to Eric, that is, like, a sticking point.

2376
01:27:08,645 --> 01:27:09,465
Mhmm. Which

2377
01:27:09,844 --> 01:27:12,725
is incredible. Yes. Because that doesn't always happen

2378
01:27:12,725 --> 01:27:14,965
in indie film. A lot of times, you're

2379
01:27:14,965 --> 01:27:16,185
acting for a pizza.

2380
01:27:17,125 --> 01:27:18,344
You know? Yep.

2381
01:27:18,725 --> 01:27:20,344
Well, when so,

2382
01:27:21,780 --> 01:27:24,180
newcomers, you've never heard this before. B Sider,

2383
01:27:24,180 --> 01:27:25,800
you might remember we've talked about,

2384
01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:28,820
Alice Has It Under Control, short film that

2385
01:27:28,820 --> 01:27:30,199
we did back in 2014.

2386
01:27:31,460 --> 01:27:33,000
A lot of mistakes were made,

2387
01:27:33,555 --> 01:27:35,494
and that film will never be released.

2388
01:27:36,994 --> 01:27:38,835
I'm not gonna get into that. But that

2389
01:27:38,835 --> 01:27:40,755
was the same thing. We had people do

2390
01:27:40,755 --> 01:27:42,215
it for free. Mhmm.

2391
01:27:42,594 --> 01:27:43,494
We bought them

2392
01:27:44,114 --> 01:27:44,614
food,

2393
01:27:45,890 --> 01:27:47,670
and that was it, basically.

2394
01:27:48,130 --> 01:27:49,970
Because we didn't I mean, we didn't have

2395
01:27:49,970 --> 01:27:52,210
a budget. We didn't. Well, we had to

2396
01:27:52,210 --> 01:27:53,030
raise money

2397
01:27:53,649 --> 01:27:54,930
to well, I don't wanna get into it.

2398
01:27:54,930 --> 01:27:56,130
I don't wanna get into it. It's a

2399
01:27:56,130 --> 01:27:57,030
sour thing.

2400
01:27:58,225 --> 01:27:58,725
Anyway,

2401
01:27:59,345 --> 01:28:02,085
shit happens. Roll with it. Accept it.

2402
01:28:04,545 --> 01:28:05,685
An indie film,

2403
01:28:06,385 --> 01:28:08,145
you sometimes have to be faced with that.

2404
01:28:08,145 --> 01:28:09,449
You can't get the money to pay people.

2405
01:28:09,530 --> 01:28:10,810
Well, then, you know what? If you're serious

2406
01:28:10,810 --> 01:28:12,010
about this, you're gonna get some sort of

2407
01:28:12,010 --> 01:28:14,350
distribution. You're gonna go to festivals and stuff.

2408
01:28:14,409 --> 01:28:16,909
So you get people back in. Yeah. Right?

2409
01:28:17,130 --> 01:28:18,810
Say, okay. I need you to do this

2410
01:28:18,810 --> 01:28:20,970
because I have jack shit for money right

2411
01:28:20,970 --> 01:28:21,465
now.

2412
01:28:22,425 --> 01:28:22,925
But

2413
01:28:23,304 --> 01:28:24,904
you're gonna hit this to festivals and stuff.

2414
01:28:24,904 --> 01:28:26,685
And whether it's good or not

2415
01:28:27,545 --> 01:28:28,764
because this is the reality.

2416
01:28:29,465 --> 01:28:31,545
Every festival it goes to, somebody's gonna pay

2417
01:28:31,545 --> 01:28:33,224
to see it. You're gonna get some of

2418
01:28:33,224 --> 01:28:33,479
that.

2419
01:28:34,199 --> 01:28:36,039
Right? That's that's how you make money on

2420
01:28:36,039 --> 01:28:37,020
the festival circuit.

2421
01:28:38,199 --> 01:28:40,039
For those that do, then we won't get

2422
01:28:40,039 --> 01:28:41,340
into it. But, anyway,

2423
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:43,500
do it.

2424
01:28:45,239 --> 01:28:46,920
Get them to, you know, do the thing,

2425
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:47,324
but

2426
01:28:48,604 --> 01:28:51,104
be very upfront about it and

2427
01:28:52,445 --> 01:28:55,085
be serious about making sure they get back

2428
01:28:55,085 --> 01:28:57,185
end money. Right. Because

2429
01:28:58,204 --> 01:28:59,970
well, any other way is just not cool.

2430
01:29:00,130 --> 01:29:01,890
Be fair and do not take advantage of

2431
01:29:01,890 --> 01:29:02,949
people. Yeah.

2432
01:29:05,329 --> 01:29:07,090
There's I don't know. Have we talked enough

2433
01:29:07,090 --> 01:29:08,789
about this? Because I feel

2434
01:29:09,810 --> 01:29:11,909
like there's so much to talk about,

2435
01:29:12,914 --> 01:29:14,054
but it's like minutiae.

2436
01:29:15,474 --> 01:29:17,234
Yeah. It's a lot of minutiae. I think

2437
01:29:17,234 --> 01:29:19,875
we've covered all the big stuff. I think

2438
01:29:19,875 --> 01:29:21,635
we're just excited to be back, and so

2439
01:29:21,635 --> 01:29:23,554
we just wanna keep talking and talking and

2440
01:29:23,554 --> 01:29:24,774
talking. But Yeah.

2441
01:29:25,500 --> 01:29:26,939
Well, anyway, it,

2442
01:29:28,779 --> 01:29:31,920
yeah, it's, it's a wonderful movie, and,

2443
01:29:32,859 --> 01:29:34,479
you know, I mean, $30,000

2444
01:29:35,020 --> 01:29:35,840
is not

2445
01:29:36,380 --> 01:29:38,460
anything in terms of movie budgets. It's it's

2446
01:29:38,460 --> 01:29:40,159
actually pretty big in indie film.

2447
01:29:41,145 --> 01:29:43,405
That's that's a, you know, chunk of change.

2448
01:29:43,704 --> 01:29:44,204
Right?

2449
01:29:46,425 --> 01:29:46,925
But

2450
01:29:48,104 --> 01:29:49,085
do what you can.

2451
01:29:49,545 --> 01:29:51,145
Mhmm. Do what you can. Work with what

2452
01:29:51,145 --> 01:29:52,845
you've got. Use this as an example.

2453
01:29:53,750 --> 01:29:56,710
No wild filters, no crazy coloring, no moods,

2454
01:29:56,710 --> 01:29:58,470
and their sets weren't set up with, you

2455
01:29:58,470 --> 01:30:01,510
know, super technical lighting because the story didn't

2456
01:30:01,510 --> 01:30:02,329
call for it.

2457
01:30:03,430 --> 01:30:05,369
Anytime anything they would have spent

2458
01:30:05,824 --> 01:30:07,824
in terms of money, time, and effort on

2459
01:30:07,824 --> 01:30:09,685
those things for this movie

2460
01:30:10,064 --> 01:30:12,085
would have made it less than.

2461
01:30:13,024 --> 01:30:15,185
Right. Because it doesn't fit. Don't do it

2462
01:30:15,185 --> 01:30:16,164
just to do it.

2463
01:30:17,425 --> 01:30:19,104
Do what it is. If it's a driving

2464
01:30:19,104 --> 01:30:19,604
film,

2465
01:30:21,460 --> 01:30:23,300
get a car, get a steady you know,

2466
01:30:23,300 --> 01:30:24,739
get a gimbal and, you know, for a

2467
01:30:24,739 --> 01:30:25,639
steady cam,

2468
01:30:26,340 --> 01:30:27,800
drive, and shoot the movie.

2469
01:30:28,340 --> 01:30:30,199
You know, shoot 1 guy over here,

2470
01:30:30,500 --> 01:30:32,179
get in the back seat, switch over, shoot

2471
01:30:32,179 --> 01:30:34,225
this guy over here, camera in the front,

2472
01:30:34,225 --> 01:30:35,985
whatever you gotta do. Shoot it in the

2473
01:30:35,985 --> 01:30:37,744
fucking car. Doesn't have to be pulled on

2474
01:30:37,744 --> 01:30:39,824
a trailer. Doesn't need to be green screen

2475
01:30:39,824 --> 01:30:42,784
surrounded with, you know, motion playing. Do what

2476
01:30:42,784 --> 01:30:44,565
you can because that's the story.

2477
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:46,179
Yeah.

2478
01:30:46,719 --> 01:30:47,219
K.

2479
01:30:47,760 --> 01:30:49,439
Do the best you can with what you

2480
01:30:49,439 --> 01:30:51,520
have. Make a lot of pots. Don't try

2481
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:53,359
to make one perfect pot. Make as many

2482
01:30:53,359 --> 01:30:55,679
as you can. And love every minute of

2483
01:30:55,679 --> 01:30:57,300
it because when you do that,

2484
01:30:58,175 --> 01:30:59,375
you get a a

2485
01:31:00,015 --> 01:31:01,854
every every time I glance over, I keep

2486
01:31:01,854 --> 01:31:03,694
wanting to say it. But you get a

2487
01:31:03,694 --> 01:31:04,194
movie,

2488
01:31:04,574 --> 01:31:06,354
like Love Song of William H. Shaw.

2489
01:31:06,975 --> 01:31:08,595
That's right. That's gonna be the end result.

2490
01:31:08,734 --> 01:31:09,234
Love

2491
01:31:09,694 --> 01:31:11,609
the movie no matter what

2492
01:31:12,649 --> 01:31:13,469
while you're making

2493
01:31:14,649 --> 01:31:15,550
it. Wow.

2494
01:31:16,329 --> 01:31:19,929
So that brings our first episode in way

2495
01:31:19,929 --> 01:31:20,670
too long.

2496
01:31:21,210 --> 01:31:22,109
To a close,

2497
01:31:22,969 --> 01:31:24,590
I'm gonna say, again,

2498
01:31:25,145 --> 01:31:26,045
hit the patreon,

2499
01:31:28,185 --> 01:31:29,005
just, you know, patreon.com.

2500
01:31:29,385 --> 01:31:31,625
Bravo for the b side. If you want

2501
01:31:31,625 --> 01:31:32,844
to pop on the podcast.

2502
01:31:33,784 --> 01:31:35,645
All of the episodes. So

2503
01:31:36,425 --> 01:31:38,824
as we're re recording this, we still don't

2504
01:31:38,824 --> 01:31:41,060
actually have the hosting set up. I'm

2505
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,199
I'm working on that, and I gotta get

2506
01:31:43,199 --> 01:31:44,020
all the 100137

2507
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:46,500
episodes back on track.

2508
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:48,720
So by the time you hear this, it'll

2509
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:49,859
be irrelevant. But,

2510
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,119
if anything ever happens where there's a delay

2511
01:31:53,119 --> 01:31:54,000
or your,

2512
01:31:55,164 --> 01:31:57,564
like, with your dad, the the podcast apps

2513
01:31:57,564 --> 01:31:59,965
stopped working on his phone Mhmm. Couldn't get

2514
01:31:59,965 --> 01:32:00,625
to it,

2515
01:32:01,324 --> 01:32:02,925
go to Patreon. You just need to sign

2516
01:32:02,925 --> 01:32:03,425
up

2517
01:32:03,965 --> 01:32:06,304
with Patreon. You don't have to pay.

2518
01:32:06,844 --> 01:32:08,685
But if you are, if you have a

2519
01:32:08,685 --> 01:32:11,279
login to Patreon, you can access access every

2520
01:32:11,279 --> 01:32:13,119
single one of our episodes. That is like

2521
01:32:13,119 --> 01:32:15,859
a fail safe. Right. They'll always be there,

2522
01:32:16,559 --> 01:32:18,719
for, you know, everybody and anybody. We'd appreciate

2523
01:32:18,719 --> 01:32:20,639
it though if you'd sign up and, you

2524
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:22,399
know, throw us $5 a month. That would

2525
01:32:22,399 --> 01:32:23,300
be awesome.

2526
01:32:24,159 --> 01:32:24,899
Share it.

2527
01:32:26,494 --> 01:32:29,454
We also have a Patreon for the production

2528
01:32:29,454 --> 01:32:31,715
company, Lords of Misrule Productions.

2529
01:32:32,734 --> 01:32:33,954
It's a lot more to type.

2530
01:32:34,494 --> 01:32:35,854
It is a lot. We picked a very

2531
01:32:35,854 --> 01:32:38,110
long name. Yeah. But I like it. So

2532
01:32:38,590 --> 01:32:41,150
you know, the website has links, lords of

2533
01:32:41,150 --> 01:32:42,210
misrule productions.com.

2534
01:32:42,750 --> 01:32:43,949
Gosh. It's been a long time since I've

2535
01:32:43,949 --> 01:32:45,390
said that. Or you can see stuff that

2536
01:32:45,390 --> 01:32:47,650
we're working on and, you know Yeah.

2537
01:32:48,110 --> 01:32:50,350
They have links to our YouTube channels because

2538
01:32:50,350 --> 01:32:52,289
we will be converting these to

2539
01:32:53,744 --> 01:32:55,985
audio to video because people still like watching

2540
01:32:55,985 --> 01:32:57,664
them on YouTube, so we'll still be putting

2541
01:32:57,664 --> 01:32:58,324
those up.

2542
01:32:58,784 --> 01:33:01,284
Sure. And as always, you know,

2543
01:33:01,985 --> 01:33:03,664
emails are on the website. Reach out to

2544
01:33:03,664 --> 01:33:06,145
us. Yes. We are very easy to reach

2545
01:33:06,145 --> 01:33:07,685
out to. So if you are a filmmaker,

2546
01:33:07,744 --> 01:33:08,485
an actor,

2547
01:33:09,180 --> 01:33:11,260
whatever, anything you do in indie film or

2548
01:33:11,260 --> 01:33:13,100
b movies, and you want us to see

2549
01:33:13,100 --> 01:33:14,479
something that you have done,

2550
01:33:14,939 --> 01:33:16,539
you want us to, you know, cover a

2551
01:33:16,539 --> 01:33:18,699
movie, reach out to us, talk to us.

2552
01:33:18,699 --> 01:33:20,859
If you wanna, you know, come on and

2553
01:33:20,859 --> 01:33:22,784
interview with us. Or even if you're just

2554
01:33:22,784 --> 01:33:24,784
a listener. Yeah. Or even if you just

2555
01:33:24,784 --> 01:33:26,465
wanna You know, like, there's this movie I

2556
01:33:26,465 --> 01:33:28,145
saw, and it was awesome. I think you

2557
01:33:28,145 --> 01:33:29,905
guys would like it. Right? Yes. I'd love

2558
01:33:29,905 --> 01:33:32,385
to hear your thoughts. What's the Love love

2559
01:33:32,385 --> 01:33:32,885
recommendations.

2560
01:33:33,265 --> 01:33:34,864
We've gotten a few of those. Yeah. Now

2561
01:33:34,864 --> 01:33:36,545
mind you, we're not, like, you know, a

2562
01:33:36,545 --> 01:33:38,699
Hollywood reporter. You know, we

2563
01:33:39,079 --> 01:33:40,779
we don't have a massive reach.

2564
01:33:42,599 --> 01:33:45,319
But, Deciders, you can help with that. That's

2565
01:33:45,319 --> 01:33:47,719
right. We can grow this bad boy. But

2566
01:33:47,719 --> 01:33:49,099
we had a far enough reach

2567
01:33:49,399 --> 01:33:49,639
where

2568
01:33:50,435 --> 01:33:52,694
I mean, people reaching out to us to

2569
01:33:52,914 --> 01:33:53,895
do their movies

2570
01:33:54,675 --> 01:33:56,215
Yeah. Because you guys

2571
01:33:57,074 --> 01:33:58,215
would go watch them.

2572
01:33:58,755 --> 01:34:00,435
And there was enough of you to make

2573
01:34:00,435 --> 01:34:02,515
a little bit of a, you know, difference

2574
01:34:02,914 --> 01:34:05,494
Yeah. And get the buzz around. So,

2575
01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:09,720
yeah. Reach out to us, whoever you are.

2576
01:34:09,780 --> 01:34:12,039
We'd love to hear from you. Yep. Absolutely.

2577
01:34:14,020 --> 01:34:16,280
So With that. With that,

2578
01:34:16,979 --> 01:34:18,585
I think we'll bring this to a close.

2579
01:34:18,585 --> 01:34:21,725
Keep writing, keep filming, keep dreaming, keep being

2580
01:34:21,784 --> 01:34:22,284
creative.

2581
01:34:22,744 --> 01:34:25,005
And keep watching movies. Absolutely.

2582
01:34:25,864 --> 01:34:26,364
And

2583
01:34:28,265 --> 01:34:29,324
we'll see you

2584
01:34:29,944 --> 01:34:30,925
In 2 weeks.

2585
01:34:31,385 --> 01:34:31,885
Yeah.

2586
01:34:32,449 --> 01:34:33,270
Next episode.

2587
01:34:33,649 --> 01:34:35,350
See you next time. Bye. Bye.

2588
01:34:35,890 --> 01:34:38,550
Jesus Christ. Bye, b satters. Thank you.

2589
01:34:41,329 --> 01:34:42,070
We're out.