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This is b news with Ian Griffin, a

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podcast all about Kombucha sure.

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So I'm here sitting down in the town

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of Emery in the Bay area, with Michael

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Churchill who's heading up the

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combo,

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Kombucha Brewing

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piece of piece of equipment.

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Michael, what what have you got here?

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Yeah. Hi. Thanks for having me in.

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So we have a

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hardware device that makes Kombucha at home.

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So the idea was to

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kinda take the Diy

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Kombucha brewing,

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and make it simple and easy for anyone

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to brew at home.

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Right. And I'm a home brewer. I've probably

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brew the same way

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most people use either a gallon, 2 gallon

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glass jar. I got ceramic containers. But this

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as people will see if they go to

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the website, beach news dot com, and look

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for the

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posting that companies there there'll be some pictures

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from your site. And this is very high

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tech looking kind of burn aluminum

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why don't you describe, you know, how did

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this come about? First of all? What what

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was your vision? Because you. You brew kombucha.

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Right? I do. Yeah. So I've been brewing

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Ka kombucha since...

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Well, enjoying Cam kombucha since about, you know,

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20 15 or so.

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I started brewing in 20 17. Mh You

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know, I just felt like I could try

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it myself. I didn't wanna keep going to

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the store and buying it over and over.

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It really felt like,

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sort of a treat, you know, when you

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go back Kombucha. So

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you know, watch some videos online, learn how

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to brew it, you know, it turns out

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it's not really that difficult to B Kombucha.

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You know, most people

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can kinda figure it out.

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But over time, I started to realize that

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there was, like, these nuances that, you know,

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you you sort of had to dial in

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to make good kombucha. Right. Right.

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And that's what we decided to do a

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combo was to kinda take out those

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problems,

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and also the package in a really beautiful

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efficient compact on way.

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You know, most home setups. I don't know

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if you have, a similar setup where you

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just have jar, and you've got a piece

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of fabric over it. And in the winter,

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it gets cold. So what do you do?

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You get, you know, heating pad, you wrap

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it around it and kinda bottles next to.

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Yeah. My wife make sure I keep it

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in the garage. She doesn't want that messing

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up a kitchen whereas this looks very much...

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I mean, I'd put it in the same

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league as very nicely designed high end, clients

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as coffee makers or other things you find

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in in a sleek modern kitchen.

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I... We I was talking in a minute

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about the release schedule, but what's the what's

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the secret? What's the technology?

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How does it work?

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Sure. Yeah. So we could talk about how

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it works. You know, it's not

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crazy advanced

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alien technology.

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It's mostly, you know, with Kombucha, you wanna

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get the heating right and you wanna get

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the timing right. Those are the 2

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main points you wanna figure out. And that's

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what we've done with this is you get

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the heating to a nice gold lock zone,

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you know, about 75 degrees Celsius, 78 degrees

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Celsius somewhere in there. Fahrenheit night. Sorry fahrenheit.

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Sorry. About 26 Celsius. Yeah. Fahrenheit. Good Yeah.

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you've kinda got it set, and that's what

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you want.

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And then the timing is the other aspect.

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So this has a built in time on

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the top, you know, very simple analog buttons

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you can set it for, you know, a

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week up to 7 days.

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And then we also have a digital app,

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which you can access on your phone.

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So all the people I wanna connect and

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use an app, that'll be available.

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But, yeah, That was the idea was to

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kinda make sure that you get the timing

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and temperature right,

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let's talk about the heating. So it has

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heating pads on each side. Mh. And

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each side is controlled independently, so they work

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off separate timers and separate heating in once

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the heating is, you know, it runs for

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a week,

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and that finishes, it'll auto shut off and

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go into standby mode.

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let you know, hey, which is ready. So

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you can then take a sip, check it

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out. See what's going on, and then, you

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know, move on to the the next phase?

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And what's the capacity? Is it a couple

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of gallons?

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Yes. So it's just under a gallon. It's

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about 3 and a half liters on the

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jar side, and then the bottle side is

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07:50 milliliter per bottle.

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when people get the,

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equipment from you, are, you also gonna provide

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Sc start liquid or the guidance as to

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the ratio of the starter liquid to the

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t. How how does that work? Yeah. So

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the easiest way to get Ob to just

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buy a bottle of plain kombucha from the

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store, and that's a great way to kinda

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get going. Yeah. And then in terms of

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the volume for the jar,

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you've got your 3 and a half liters

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there. And then when you fill up the

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bottles on the backside,

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the liquid will stop pouring when there's 20

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for continuous brewing. Because the 4 is that

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high up and the yeah. Exact plate at

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the rate high. So it's a no brainer

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you're a good to go. A second. Exactly.

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sides. I'm looking at it. It's kind of

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sealed up here, but it it looks like

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it's got almost like coffee maker it's where

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you put in the liquid, and then it's

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got another compartment. So Yeah. What happens to

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be? I see. I see there's bottle in

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that. Yeah. So the front side is the

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jar. Supposed to be a boris look at

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glass jar.

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you have a... What we call filter disc.

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circuit. Oh, like like fabric would. Yeah. People

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use like a Rips rooftop fabric.

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So it is very durable, but it's also,

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get any kind of mold or any kind

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of issues with it it's very durable fabric.

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more of a structure. The fabric would also

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a thicker Pet bottle that can withstand that

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carbon coordination. Mh. So you make your kombucha

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v liter or whatever you said. It dispense

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it into the bottles.

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fermentation? Exactly. And the... This would need to

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be cool. Right? Is this heart and this

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cold or yeah. How's temperature? Just both heated.

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So when your jar site kombucha ferment commence

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for about a week. Once it's ready, you

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check it for that balance of that sour

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and that sort of sweet balance. Mh. Once

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that's ready, you then fill up bottles

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about 80 twenties. So you wanna about 20

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percent juice juice proof flavoring or whatnot, seal

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side for about 3 to 5 days. And

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see the pressure. Right? Once that's ready, toss

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them in the fridge, let it cool down

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fresh batch. On the jar side, fill in

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some sweet tea, and then you're good to

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go. Okay. So what we're looking at is

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it's plugs in presumably electrical

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heating,

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Container for a just under say a gallon

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of Kombucha,

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dispense into those bottles, secondary fermentation flavoring,

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very compact. It would look nice on any

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modern kitchen. Now let's talk about, yeah, you

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know, I first heard about this or a

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year ago. You guys

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refining it, but

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it sounds like you're getting close to when

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can people actually go ahead and order this

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and then presume they order it

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online, so tell us about your website and

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everything else. Yeah. Yeah. So we... We've been

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and we're we're basically ready to go into

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production. So we're gonna launch with the Kickstarter

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crowdfunding funding campaign to raise the funds for,

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you know, the mold and tooling in the

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first runs.

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So our Kickstarter will launch on July t,

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It'll run through August. So it'll run for

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us there, and then we will go into

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production at the end of the year and

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start shipping in,

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Q1Q2.

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Yeah. And do you have a, a suggested

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retail price? Any ideas there on what people

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willing to pay for this? Or you think

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it'll you think it's worth?

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So it's around 505

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50 for Msrp p. And then with the

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kickstarter, you'll see about a 30 percent discount

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Oh, so if people donate to the kick

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kickstarter, they get a discount.

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Yeah. For early backers,

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yeah. You'll have up to 30 percent discount.

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Out. Okay. It's pretty pretty good.

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Do you think there's a market? They have

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500 dollars? Sure. So 1 of the things

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with Combo is we're not some, you know,

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cheap

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quick little thing. We use high quality materials.

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We, you know, prioritize,

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like, high design. With his products.

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dollar Msrp price, it is a little bit

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of a stick shock to some people,

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if you were to do the math and

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we have, you know, if you're buying a

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Kombucha day. This thing pays for itself in,

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like, 3 months. So totally, I mean, I

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began drinking Kombucha,

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buying as many people did Gts ginger aid.

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I was getting... I immediately

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responded, you know, 15 years ago. I was

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buying a case a week. Which meant I

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was spending a hundred and 20 bucks a

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month. And I started brewing my own for,

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like, 10 cents a bottle. Yeah. So, yeah.

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It it definitely unlike other

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luxury items which you wouldn't get a return

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from on a 500 dollar sweater or whatever.

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You you you will show up Yeah.

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Cash flow positive

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for the Kombucha. And I guess what you're

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really selling then is that guaranteed sort of

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high end convenience

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taking the guess work with the

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the app Yeah. And the dialed in temperature

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is is that... And

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okay. So really, it's gonna be 20 25

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it'll be available. So what is your website

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if people wanna go see any

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put it in the blog post, but for

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people just listening to the audio,

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how do they find you? Sure. You that

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can go to the combo dot com,

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and all our socials are at the combo

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K0MBU?

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The combo? The combo. Yeah. Alright. So what's

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your background that led you to create something

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as elegance as this?

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Yeah. So me and my wife for both

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designers and industrial designers and automotive designers that's

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our trade. And mh, you know, during the

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pandemic, we just started trying to come up

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with ideas to build our own products. Mh.

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we came up with this. And the initial

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design was actually fairly different.

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And it went through a bunch of different

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iterations.

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But, you know, that's our that's our forte

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design and industrial design. And so we were

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able to, like, sketch and design it and

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build it and then sort of throw it

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over the wall over to China and say,

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hey, is this something that we can build?

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What's the feasibility like?

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You know, do all the market research and

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start to figure out, okay. If we were

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to sell a product like this. What does

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that look like? Mh.

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Well, that's great. To have heard about this.

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Good luck and

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I'll definitely,

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keep track of it and see how see

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how the sales go into 20 25. Thanks.

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Thanks so much.

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