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Alright. Hello, everybody. Welcome to balancing life's issues

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the podcast,

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Wendy.

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We do a class on techno no stress.

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And we were just experiencing that for the

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last 30 seconds, so something happened with our

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stream, but there's a link

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that gray is gonna help get into the

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event which is say isn't started, But here

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we are live and we're working out the

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kinks.

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And...

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At Mountain.

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I'm good. I think it's funny.

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We had some people be able to get

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in, so thank you to those.

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We were gonna subtitle this, how to be

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an entrepreneur by doing everything wrong. Right.

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It's sort of my mantra. Right. Do we

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mess up? And this is a learning experience?

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Yeah. So it's a way way for before

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before you jump into it,

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we gotta throw it a couple seconds. You

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know who I'm psyche to jump that. Okay.

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Shout. So anybody... Anybody in the chat who

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is,

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gonna be asking questions.

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Your name into a raf will enter a

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raffle for the book called Say it well,

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Find your voice speaker mind inspire any audience

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by Terry Sup plot. Wendy, can you tell

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us about who Terry Soup pot is?

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I can.

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And it ties everything in, so kai knows

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you wellness and snow know. I'm I'm so

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excited that you you're your part of this

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journey with us. So thank you.

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And

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if you follow along with our Linkedin,

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journey, you'll know I was really an early

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doctor, and I've met some amazing people along

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the way, and 1 of them is Terry.

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He graciously...

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At a Zoom call, which was incredibly

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important and interesting,

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and his bio is amazing. I'm gonna leave

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the teaser are out there, There's a teaser

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for everybody to go on his Linkedin and

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look at his background, which will absolutely just

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just

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so impressive,

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and we're giving a ways book, which I

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pre ordered.

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we're gonna we're gonna get the new link

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up on social media. We've got a team

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of people here. So it's like every theme.

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It's, like chicken soup. Yeah. Yeah. It's like

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chicken soup. And wendy do you social It

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takes a team to make things Right. And

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I have had so many conversations ranging from

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work life balance to resilience to gratitude to

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being a new dad.

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And I'm really excited about this conversation because

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you have been a female business over for

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over 25 years,

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seemingly against all odds, at times. I'm sure

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you would

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agree. So I guess I wanted to kick

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this off asking you.

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Why did you decide to start your own

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company 25 years ago.

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Yeah. I think Brian is 1 of the

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most important questions for anybody here. Right? If

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if we're on, and and I'm gonna, you

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know, this is a an opportunity for me

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to share some some real deep belief. So

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the first 1 is, Perfect I don't believe

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it's a good idea

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to say you wanna be an oxygen

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because you wanna make money.

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And so for those of you who are

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listening or they're there and they're thinking that

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this is an easy way, and it's gonna

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solve your life problem and you're gonna be

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able to pay more bills.

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We know a lot about money as a

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motivator or and there are a lot easier

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ways to make money than to start your

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own company, you start your own world. So

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the first thing I'll tell you is that

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I do, I'll borrow from all the

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best short tanks that you've ever seen, and

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it's... Are you solving a problem. And for

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me, the problem was a single mom of

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3,

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who really didn't wanna spend every penny on

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day care. Right? That it wasn't just going

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to work to pay a day care a

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bill, So the problem was I really saw

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there were mistakes, and there were real things

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in Corporate America. Yeah. That needed to be

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fixed. Got it. Like what. And

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well, I think the first 1 is owning

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the fact that

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you know, they're... We're parent. And it highs

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little 1 walked in on a very important

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call like this happens so race We're going

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live now. Like, that's well happen.

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It's gonna happen.

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And for me, as an empty nest on

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the other way, maybe my puppies or my

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soon to be grandchild or... And and so

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I saw problems in that, we really need

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to live in a much more authentic world.

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That's of the buzz world today in social

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media. Right? Everybody's talking about all Authenticity. Well,

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for me, it was 30 years ago was

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it was really messy, and there were 3

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kids. I I happen to have 3 kids

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in 3 years.

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And I love it because some of you

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are chatting, it happened to you,

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I just think it's so interesting because we

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we had these big problems, like, employee retention.

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And for the first year Kai worked here.

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What was the big question I asked you...

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If not every day, almost every day. What

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did I saving?

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When... And what do we need to do?

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To be here. What to make sure you

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never leave. Right? And some people call that

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the stay interview?

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And it became down to a values

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conversation. So what inspired me to start the

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business was

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I see, and I I have to say

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with a heavy heart, I I don't think

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we fixed the problem. I think people are

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still

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feeling not comfortable sharing their messing this.

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Not sharing, oh, At the eye doctor was

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my mother who needs cataract surgery.

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Like, no baloney excuses, but the reality,

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or I'm scared that I might have cancer.

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I mean I'll just go through a week

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in my light with the 800 trainers.

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I'm waiting for cancer results.

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I'm doing my first colonoscopy,

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can I scheduled something around that?

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My phone got dropped and shoot.

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You know, I could go on and on.

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Right? But the reality is it's messy, and

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I wanted to create a company that would

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teach companies how to embrace that mess. Yeah.

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Yeah. And that that feels like gets against

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the grain though. Right? Because there is a

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culture

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in,

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say the working...

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you know, maybe long hours little pay. Right?

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So how do you... As a business owner,

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entrepreneur

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who

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if things go according to plan, you're gonna

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have a staff. Right?

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So how do you... Well, you know, it's

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funny. Right? Because we talk about this with

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with the computer. So we're a staff 12

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now? And sometimes Apple store will say to

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me. Well, why don't you buy all 12

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of say same computers? I'm, like, what planet

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are you living on? Do you think I

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ever thought I would need 12:12

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computers. Like, you know, so I I think

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that idea of, and III

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do Angel investing now, and I certainly do

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a ton of mentorship and so Let me

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start with the next takeaway? 1 be mission

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base. What are you doing this for? What

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are you looking for? What's the goal? And

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the second 1 is, and and some of

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you may throw things at me through the

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through the. Just...

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I do not believe in the idea, you're

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gonna throw, like, things like kai,

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I don't believe in the idea that you

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have to spend money to make money. You

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have to have money to spend money to

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make money. And so a a lot of

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it came,

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at it it really came from,

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barter,

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my first

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was by an Ibm executive who needed help

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in her home.

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So she designed my brochure for free if

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I helped during in her home.

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And, I love the question about what my

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day looks like.

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it's always a challenge to practice what I've

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preach.

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So I do live in a generation world

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that some of you follow, you know my

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mom.

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Is a big part of my life. And

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so yesterday, I had to plan everything around

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a 2 hour eye doctor appointment. That was

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the most important thing. I'm not sending my

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mom for me personally outsourcing her.

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I am creating my day.

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Also know I'm 1 year at,

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after being sick and exercises become a top.

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So I would do a shout out to

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Peloton. I know they're having a lot of

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trouble now

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Love. Can we do, like, a tag for

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Ali and and Emma and Emma,

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who I watch or media is listening like

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they can throw the tag in there for

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us.

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Yeah. Well, my idea for peloton privatization have

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more 62 hours. Like to be work out

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with the person who looks like. Me right?

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And then I will also tell you, you

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know, I I think me So clearly, I

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I did mean to do my hair better.

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I could definitely do my hair better. That's...

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When you have as much hair and a

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thick it's a huge time Yeah. Time effort.

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I don't think you do you have that

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product? Kai. You're I'm having, great hair day.

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Usually, you see me with a hat. You

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are having a great hair jack. I yeah.

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So somebody here up my curly hair. I

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never loved my hair, But then I married

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somebody who has curly hair. So I have

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access to products.

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It's like, what? Oh what thing. Right? And

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how interesting thing more meant but,

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money on hair products last year Yeah. What

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my age is on 36. Yeah. Turning the

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corner on 37. I'm just grateful I have

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here.

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Yeah. That's... Yeah. Well, that's interesting That whole

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idea great for us. So when you're asking

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what my be looks like. I never hit

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a snooze button. I'm up every morning, by

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05:30, every morning, 7 days a week. I

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walk my dog super early.

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I'm very organized in terms of my house,

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my clutter.

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I I, you know, go along, but I

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also have to tell you. I am perfectly

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imperfect.

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So just like this had some bumps and

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bruises,

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and I I... For anyone who was fighting

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that perfectionism or working in a perfection.

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I think it is 1 of the best

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easiest way to work like vowels.

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And that's something you've had to push me

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out of

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right is... When I first started yeah needed

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to be perfect. And I really had... You

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had to break that model a little bit.

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So talk to me about as an entrepreneur,

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and you have staff that's really exciting that

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you wanna retain

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how do you,

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as a leader,

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break that mold or encourage them to go

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in certain directions because you you've pushed me

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into so many uncomfortable positions, but I have

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benefited coming out of all that.

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Yeah. And, you know, I love it because,

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you know, part of my job.

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You know, maybe as your boss, but, you

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know, hopefully also a friend and a a

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mentor is to be the best parent. And

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to bring my... To bring your child up

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with the best type of environment, which means

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take it down a notch. And

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you know, I do think it's interesting because

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type we're starting companies to get away from

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that. And III don't think we wanna use

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the word toxic culture. Although Linkedin, there's been

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a huge movement about this idea of, you

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know, toxic cultures and in Corporate America. And

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I I think it's still very much true.

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We have to embrace the ability of, what's

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the best part of your day, how are

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we gonna enjoy? And what part of the

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job we will have to do things we

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have to do?

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But what part of the job do we

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still absolutely love that no matter what Yeah.

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So you feel like there's, like a ratio,

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like, 80 inspiring 20.

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I gotta do that thing that I don't

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really like. Like, what's a good ratio in

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your mind. I mean, that would be a

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bit.

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A bad day. A good place should be

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close to a hundred percent.

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You know, what's great about technology and we're

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going into zinc incredibly exciting artificial intelligence and

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Apple intelligence

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I know. And it's just

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really fun,

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And this is really fun. And and I

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I like it because you're shouting out the

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Peloton and Ally and Am amazon, and that's

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the way we connect and and Terry,

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who, you know, everyone should get a his

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book to read about how to be the

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most impactful inspirational.

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And I'll quote 1 thing that he taught

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me was, to end everything with hope.

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And I just think I have to let

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that per because that's a real work life

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balance. At the end of the day, did

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you really just do your best? And what

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does your best look like? So just let's

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just take a second and say, like, are

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you exhausted? I mean, does your head in

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the pillow and you're out?

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Because then you're not doing anything.

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Almost 12 month old is helping.

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No. No. No. You you get you don't

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get it... You don't get... That out anymore.

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That's only 12 wind. Yeah. No excuse. Fair

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enough. I I would agree that, yes. At

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the end of the day, I'm I'm pretty

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worn out. I feel like... But I'm also

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a a box checker. Right? I have to

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do these many things in a day to

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feel satisfied. Right? And I think for a

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lot of people,

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this that's not re not really the case.

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Right? Like, like self starting,

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motivation, like, are those things that keep you

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getting out of bed. Right? Because you just...

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You're were just posting on social media why

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maybe you'd wanna quit. Right?

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Yeah.

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You know what... Yeah. I I think absolutely.

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There's so many days that are hard, really

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hard. If you saw it right now a

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pack of papers. Let's be real for a

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minute. I mean, you know, we were talking

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about starting a podcast,

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and I'd love to hear from you about

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no 1 told my life would do this

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hard.

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You know, I I never thought I would

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end up divorce and a single mom and

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and and certainly running a a global

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organization and a global company that if I

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tried to say in top of every law

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that's sitting here in front of me, it's

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it's overwhelming.

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So I think the... 1 of the most

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important things is we...

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Own your feelings. And I guess that's a

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little bit of the therapist hat coming out

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of me. But, you know, if you ask

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me how I am. I wanna be able

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to tell you too, like, at today If

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you like quitting. It gets... It... I don't

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know what words were allowed to say I'm

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live, but I'll I'll leave it. It blank

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today. In blank that. You can fill in

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the blanks. Absolutely. And, you know, I mean,

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I think as you're saying that, it's just

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kinda making me think about...

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You know, what motivates a Ceo that's not

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money. Right? So if you're having a tough

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day.

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And, you know, the reason you started B

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was for, that idea of of control. Right?

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You wanna be able to control

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how your day to day goes. Right? Because

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I started in Llc, and I was like,

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alright. I'm gonna get out there I'm gonna

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start, and then you you hired me full

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time.

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But I guess what I'm asking is

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I need that security of of, You know,

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job benefit and, you know, salary and all

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that stuff. Entrepreneur,

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when does that money... When does that money

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start coming in? Like, what's the realistic expectation

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there?

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Very, very, very, very very slim,

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and

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let's... And

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Also,

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I have to say,

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I think 1 thing that's interesting is, we

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really do have this deep conversation for a

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minute about,

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you know, the money needs.

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Certainly the home, and certainly a car food

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necessities.

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But for me now, what drives me is

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giving making were access to health care for

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employees is the best that could possibly do.

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Access to,

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days off, access to a quality of life

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for the world that I'm trying to create.

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It's 1 of the things about becoming a

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b corp. And again, I I wanna say

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how many things I've learned

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you know, I... I... It's always story time,

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but it's time for a very quick story

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For it. Wait. Hold on. Let me ask

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and

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drum roll. Oh, my I got lost the

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shock effects. Set a plus with the sound

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effects there.

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Well, 13 years ago, I had heard about

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a program,

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Goldman Sachs

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sponsoring 10000 small business. And we'll go ahead

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and link to it. It's been... It was

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an incredible experience. But about a week after

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I got accepted, it was a very long

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application process. I found out that my father

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was... Of being put in hospice. And I

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had this idea that I would defer my

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application

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and spend the time, and I think 1

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of the most important things I learned at

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that moment. It never works like that.

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Life is never a box, kai never.

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You don't finish 1 thing and then another

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thing happens.

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Unfortunately, the hardest day is when your kid

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wakes up sick, and then you have to

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figure something out with work. And that's where

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creativity comes in.

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And I was lucky that my Goldman Sachs

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cohorts, my my teacher, so I'm still friends

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with,

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said, no. If you quit now you're done.

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Figure it out. Yeah. And I realized something

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incredibly important 13 years ago.

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All of us have the potential to do

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so much more than we ever thought we

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could.

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And as cliche and I hate Cliches. We

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are our worst enemies. I know there's someone

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listening here that their kids last day of

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school is today. You never get that day

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over.

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That is more important than any oil. Than

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any email that is more important than any

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phone call that is more important than any

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client because you never ever ever get that

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again. Yeah. And there's a way to prioritize

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my dad in hospice who ended up helping

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me through the entire with my homework,

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and it was a real bonding

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experience with sent so odd. Right? While he's

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dying, we're doing my homework.

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And he didn't live to see me graduate.

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But when he did teach me with 10

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and resilience. And

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if you've a reader, which I am, that

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would be Angela Duck book called Grit. Mh.

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So if you haven't watched that ted talk

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or you haven't read that book, can't be

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an entrepreneur

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without a lot of grit. Got it. Got

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it. So, you know, speaking of grit, Right?

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Making tough decisions. Right?

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What do you think is, like, 1 of

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the biggest mistakes you see entrepreneurs make.

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I think 1 of the biggest mistakes they

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make is that deer that that that, fear

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paralysis.

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And and I know that and and honestly,

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it's a culture that can be a very

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dishonest culture.

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You know, so I I remember following the

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woman I became

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obsessed with She owned hair hair dressing all

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over the country.

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Grossing, like, 10000000 dollars. I was like I

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just wanna be her. I wanna be her.

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And when she went out of business that's

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7 months later. I was devastated to find

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out, it makes me no difference how much

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money you're making, It's what you do with

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the money. So right running out of money.

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So... And that's true. Look, Right. Seems... And

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so she had all these amazing things, but

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at the end of the day, you can't

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afford it? I mean...

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Yeah.

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So Are there any, like,

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how do you maintain that sense of I'm

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not running out of money then. Is that

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like a daily?

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Yeah. Daily routine? Well, you hear it all

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the time? I'm pretty well. I'm trying to

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cheap. Play more of a listener. Like, I'm

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aware of something. I have no no. Okay.

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I'm I'm pretty cheap. Like, is it worth

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it? You know? We... Is it is it,

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you know, louis the vuitton is a great

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client. So we're doing a lot of shout

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outs here. I have 1 very expensive bag.

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And it's... Been... About my go to bag

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for 9 years.

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I have 1 bag that I spent a

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lot of money on. And we say that,

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do we invest in it? It is it

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worth.

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You know, all of us have... I think

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entrepreneurs

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all have a little bit what we call

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the shiny penny.

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And it can be very tempting to buy

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something new technology to the best and more.

537
00:19:17,535 --> 00:19:20,355
So what I'm really focused on is

538
00:19:20,669 --> 00:19:22,744
is it gonna keep me profitable? Mh.

539
00:19:23,622 --> 00:19:25,696
Am I gonna be able to withstand very

540
00:19:25,696 --> 00:19:27,532
tough time. Look, I'll tell you,

541
00:19:28,821 --> 00:19:30,808
September eleventh came, and

542
00:19:31,443 --> 00:19:33,588
I consider myself a very smart person. I'm

543
00:19:33,588 --> 00:19:34,541
very well educated.

544
00:19:35,097 --> 00:19:37,657
And a week after September eleventh came, I

545
00:19:37,657 --> 00:19:40,123
wrote all these beautiful letters to my clients,

546
00:19:40,362 --> 00:19:42,565
and I addressed it all to the the

547
00:19:43,002 --> 00:19:43,479
the

548
00:19:44,036 --> 00:19:44,434
towers.

549
00:19:45,309 --> 00:19:47,297
I couldn't comprehend anymore there anymore.

550
00:19:48,650 --> 00:19:49,150
And

551
00:19:49,859 --> 00:19:52,256
I realized coming home that day that the

552
00:19:52,256 --> 00:19:54,094
right thing to do would be to offer

553
00:19:54,094 --> 00:19:56,331
as many seminars as we could as many

554
00:19:56,331 --> 00:19:57,290
trainings as we could.

555
00:19:57,944 --> 00:19:59,860
For as long as we could for freight.

556
00:20:03,053 --> 00:20:04,969
And that really drove me to why am

557
00:20:05,129 --> 00:20:07,045
I doing this? Why is this important? Right.

558
00:20:07,459 --> 00:20:08,736
Who do we need to support?

559
00:20:09,294 --> 00:20:11,608
And I do believe in that, the idea

560
00:20:11,608 --> 00:20:13,762
of being grateful at that time. I was

561
00:20:13,762 --> 00:20:14,640
part of Donna Karen,

562
00:20:15,371 --> 00:20:17,834
board, which worked with Widows on September eleventh.

563
00:20:18,390 --> 00:20:20,614
I met some amazing people that I'm still

564
00:20:20,614 --> 00:20:21,567
in touch with today,

565
00:20:23,018 --> 00:20:24,936
I know I'm dating myself now, but if

566
00:20:24,936 --> 00:20:26,294
you don't have a ro acts of a

567
00:20:26,294 --> 00:20:27,194
hundred people

568
00:20:28,451 --> 00:20:29,490
that know your soul.

569
00:20:30,144 --> 00:20:31,836
That you can call for a favor

570
00:20:32,211 --> 00:20:34,198
and say, I messed up. I really messed

571
00:20:34,198 --> 00:20:35,311
up. Can you help me?

572
00:20:36,424 --> 00:20:36,662
Yeah.

573
00:20:38,424 --> 00:20:40,009
I don't know how you're gonna succeed in

574
00:20:40,009 --> 00:20:42,861
your business because I call in favors all

575
00:20:42,861 --> 00:20:44,129
the time. Yeah. Networking.

576
00:20:44,605 --> 00:20:45,105
So

577
00:20:45,652 --> 00:20:46,448
As someone who has,

578
00:20:47,483 --> 00:20:47,983
sometimes,

579
00:20:48,597 --> 00:20:50,667
I wouldn't say crippling, but pretty bad social

580
00:20:50,667 --> 00:20:52,895
anxiety, I'll find myself at networking events.

581
00:20:53,549 --> 00:20:55,630
On behalf of B, you know, something I

582
00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:57,069
enjoy doing or if I Have to learn

583
00:20:57,069 --> 00:20:57,869
how to enjoy doing.

584
00:20:58,990 --> 00:21:00,429
Is there like, a tip you have for

585
00:21:00,429 --> 00:21:02,404
an entrepreneur whose needs to make those net

586
00:21:02,444 --> 00:21:04,123
working connections or or is going to that

587
00:21:04,123 --> 00:21:06,999
happy hour or that dinner reception? Like,

588
00:21:08,038 --> 00:21:09,977
like, how how do you just start the

589
00:21:10,196 --> 00:21:12,681
conversation without feeling the working dread. Oh, let's

590
00:21:12,681 --> 00:21:14,429
talk a little bit about You uk? How

591
00:21:14,429 --> 00:21:15,780
do you feel about that? I...

592
00:21:16,893 --> 00:21:19,038
Oh, man. I it's it's pretty tough for

593
00:21:19,038 --> 00:21:20,253
me. I am

594
00:21:20,564 --> 00:21:22,881
Yeah. Okay. Oh no. So a year ago,

595
00:21:23,121 --> 00:21:24,719
I came to and said, I'd like you

596
00:21:24,719 --> 00:21:26,397
to apply from 40 under Fort.

597
00:21:26,956 --> 00:21:28,970
And you said... I said No.

598
00:21:30,650 --> 00:21:33,049
And I said fine, then you'll do it

599
00:21:33,049 --> 00:21:34,089
the following year.

600
00:21:34,730 --> 00:21:35,849
So gave me a whole year to think

601
00:21:35,849 --> 00:21:37,230
about it. So I think the

602
00:21:38,260 --> 00:21:40,012
Well, more than you think about it, to

603
00:21:40,012 --> 00:21:41,444
kinda be like, yeah. I kinda think she's

604
00:21:41,444 --> 00:21:43,036
probably gonna want me to do it. Right.

605
00:21:43,195 --> 00:21:45,837
Like, I can't say no twice. So Again,

606
00:21:46,076 --> 00:21:47,509
I wanna be clear about something with entrepreneurs

607
00:21:47,509 --> 00:21:48,009
entrepreneur.

608
00:21:48,385 --> 00:21:49,261
It's not easy.

609
00:21:49,818 --> 00:21:50,318
It's

610
00:21:50,694 --> 00:21:52,525
card, and I don't think anybody if they're

611
00:21:52,525 --> 00:21:54,768
honest feels not. Good at that. And if

612
00:21:54,768 --> 00:21:55,564
they're telling you that,

613
00:21:56,519 --> 00:21:58,191
I think they're right. Okay. That's some cool

614
00:21:58,191 --> 00:22:00,919
number 1. And no, I... That's that. It's

615
00:22:01,135 --> 00:22:02,329
everybody's feeling this way.

616
00:22:04,098 --> 00:22:05,776
Everybody feeling this. Right? You know,

617
00:22:06,575 --> 00:22:09,211
1 of my mentors or coaches many years

618
00:22:09,211 --> 00:22:09,371
ago,

619
00:22:10,503 --> 00:22:12,814
taught me that idea that nobody walks in

620
00:22:12,814 --> 00:22:15,681
a room and feels totally comfortable. So Catherine

621
00:22:15,841 --> 00:22:16,239
Cri,

622
00:22:16,717 --> 00:22:18,788
who was the youngest supreme court judge in

623
00:22:18,947 --> 00:22:19,346
Texas.

624
00:22:19,838 --> 00:22:21,429
Told me it it wasn't until she put

625
00:22:21,429 --> 00:22:23,179
the robe robot and she's like, I got

626
00:22:23,179 --> 00:22:23,736
the robe.

627
00:22:24,929 --> 00:22:26,997
So you fake it. Right? But I think

628
00:22:26,997 --> 00:22:28,844
for you and many of us Yes. Okay.

629
00:22:28,924 --> 00:22:30,362
Fine. You need a little bit of time

630
00:22:30,362 --> 00:22:33,658
to adjust to the accolades and the networking,

631
00:22:33,877 --> 00:22:35,395
and and you're yet to come up on

632
00:22:35,395 --> 00:22:37,327
the 40 under 40. Awards. Which is a

633
00:22:37,327 --> 00:22:39,721
really big deal. We're here in West County,

634
00:22:39,881 --> 00:22:41,397
so it's super competitive.

635
00:22:42,275 --> 00:22:44,644
Unbelievably grateful to see my name amongst. The

636
00:22:44,924 --> 00:22:46,924
the people who who are on that list

637
00:22:46,924 --> 00:22:47,424
is

638
00:22:48,365 --> 00:22:50,625
feels good. And it's in a testament to

639
00:22:51,005 --> 00:22:52,605
kind of what we've done here at B

640
00:22:52,605 --> 00:22:55,255
building the podcast and multimedia. Well, you're missing

641
00:22:55,255 --> 00:22:56,926
a little piece in that. So we phrase

642
00:22:56,926 --> 00:22:58,358
that. It's a testament to.

643
00:22:59,075 --> 00:22:59,234
Me.

644
00:23:00,905 --> 00:23:03,304
Yes. Right. Is that is that called. An

645
00:23:03,304 --> 00:23:03,804
entrepreneur

646
00:23:04,177 --> 00:23:06,344
definition humble? It's called being honest.

647
00:23:07,034 --> 00:23:08,622
You know, I I think they they they

648
00:23:08,622 --> 00:23:10,368
say, you know, this idea of I can

649
00:23:10,368 --> 00:23:12,210
own when I'm good at, and I applied

650
00:23:12,210 --> 00:23:14,434
for something and, you know, I I worked

651
00:23:14,434 --> 00:23:16,182
really hard on it, and I created a

652
00:23:16,182 --> 00:23:17,984
whole new department and a whole new I'm

653
00:23:18,265 --> 00:23:19,944
doing this, and we're trying to do a

654
00:23:19,944 --> 00:23:20,585
million things.

655
00:23:21,224 --> 00:23:22,825
And and there's a lot of conflict. I

656
00:23:22,825 --> 00:23:24,345
mean Kai, we're gonna share how to be

657
00:23:24,345 --> 00:23:24,904
an entrepreneur.

658
00:23:25,239 --> 00:23:26,432
You know, this morning I called you, and

659
00:23:26,512 --> 00:23:27,785
I like, we're gonna do this, and you're

660
00:23:27,785 --> 00:23:29,217
like, nah. I don't like that idea.

661
00:23:30,888 --> 00:23:33,195
Yeah. And entrepreneurs better not think they know

662
00:23:33,195 --> 00:23:33,752
it all.

663
00:23:34,803 --> 00:23:36,398
Because people know a lot more than I

664
00:23:36,398 --> 00:23:38,551
do. And if you're right or wrong, it

665
00:23:38,551 --> 00:23:40,226
doesn't matter it means you have a different

666
00:23:40,226 --> 00:23:42,458
perspective. So I think it's really important to

667
00:23:42,458 --> 00:23:43,908
say how many times do you ask gain

668
00:23:43,908 --> 00:23:44,622
for opinion.

669
00:23:45,257 --> 00:23:47,638
And who is who's giving you the opinion?

670
00:23:48,034 --> 00:23:48,431
You know,

671
00:23:49,701 --> 00:23:52,375
it should be all ages? It should look

672
00:23:52,575 --> 00:23:55,055
like, all different kinds of people. What is

673
00:23:55,055 --> 00:23:57,694
your experience as a, you know, as a

674
00:23:57,694 --> 00:24:00,347
young woman as a trans as a black

675
00:24:00,347 --> 00:24:02,498
person as a hispanic person as a refugee

676
00:24:02,498 --> 00:24:04,329
as an immigrant? I mean, you know, how

677
00:24:04,329 --> 00:24:05,684
do we get involved And how do I

678
00:24:05,684 --> 00:24:07,356
see the world to your lens?

679
00:24:07,755 --> 00:24:09,783
Yeah. So it's like, and that's

680
00:24:10,398 --> 00:24:12,150
when you really grow. Yeah. It's that that's

681
00:24:12,150 --> 00:24:13,503
like inclusive practice. Right?

682
00:24:14,459 --> 00:24:16,291
So maybe that's, you know, we're we're we're

683
00:24:16,291 --> 00:24:17,587
coming up on 02:30

684
00:24:18,299 --> 00:24:19,977
And, I guess, why don't you talk about,

685
00:24:20,137 --> 00:24:21,655
you know, kind of the times we're in

686
00:24:21,655 --> 00:24:23,653
as an entrepreneur as a Ceo as a

687
00:24:23,653 --> 00:24:27,065
leader, and the importance of an inclusive work

688
00:24:27,104 --> 00:24:28,161
place. 1 that

689
00:24:28,853 --> 00:24:30,761
you know, celebrates all walks of life. How

690
00:24:30,761 --> 00:24:33,169
do you approach making sure

691
00:24:33,782 --> 00:24:34,338
that happens.

692
00:24:36,405 --> 00:24:36,539
Place

693
00:24:37,217 --> 00:24:38,651
So let's go back to your 1 year

694
00:24:38,651 --> 00:24:38,810
old

695
00:24:39,527 --> 00:24:40,882
When you're working with a 1 year old,

696
00:24:41,041 --> 00:24:42,555
1 of the most important things is to

697
00:24:42,555 --> 00:24:44,564
teach them to be messy. Some kids get

698
00:24:44,564 --> 00:24:46,801
it very easily. They they like it. They

699
00:24:46,801 --> 00:24:48,479
like being nasty. They don't mind being dirty.

700
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:50,557
They really embrace it and other kids, and

701
00:24:50,637 --> 00:24:51,915
I mike kids are all over the board

702
00:24:51,915 --> 00:24:53,926
on this. Really have to be taught how

703
00:24:53,926 --> 00:24:54,724
to be messy.

704
00:24:55,602 --> 00:24:57,278
And I see this as the parent job.

705
00:24:57,438 --> 00:24:58,955
I really see this. Now I see it

706
00:24:58,955 --> 00:25:00,311
if my job as a Ceo,

707
00:25:00,790 --> 00:25:02,720
and if if there were certain people on

708
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:04,555
my team that they were here, I can

709
00:25:04,555 --> 00:25:07,027
tell you that there was periods of time

710
00:25:07,027 --> 00:25:08,862
where they didn't like me very much because

711
00:25:08,941 --> 00:25:10,537
I pushed them way out of their comfort

712
00:25:10,537 --> 00:25:10,776
zone.

713
00:25:11,349 --> 00:25:13,813
To try something, and everybody wants happy endings.

714
00:25:14,052 --> 00:25:14,211
Yeah.

715
00:25:14,926 --> 00:25:16,993
There isn't always happy endings. Right.

716
00:25:17,788 --> 00:25:19,934
What there are is the ability to say

717
00:25:20,014 --> 00:25:22,892
I tried something. And so you're seeing,

718
00:25:23,449 --> 00:25:25,199
a shout out to end everything with hope.

719
00:25:25,676 --> 00:25:26,949
It's I get a do over,

720
00:25:28,952 --> 00:25:30,305
I get a do over. I get... We're

721
00:25:30,305 --> 00:25:31,737
gonna do this again, and we'll do the

722
00:25:31,737 --> 00:25:33,566
link a little bit better, and we'll get

723
00:25:33,566 --> 00:25:35,490
things more lined up, and then we'll do

724
00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:36,920
it again, and they'll get a little better,

725
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:38,589
and then we'll do it again. You know,

726
00:25:38,748 --> 00:25:39,861
there was a point in time at be

727
00:25:39,861 --> 00:25:41,609
like, we were doing 5 sessions at once.

728
00:25:41,768 --> 00:25:44,007
We glove, but it was amazing. How many

729
00:25:44,086 --> 00:25:45,674
Now? Are going on at a time Now?

730
00:25:45,912 --> 00:25:47,762
We can do 5 or 600

731
00:25:47,897 --> 00:25:49,485
at least at a time, and we're like,

732
00:25:49,723 --> 00:25:51,809
we don't... Right. But if you would talk

733
00:25:51,809 --> 00:25:53,644
to us during the dialogue up days,

734
00:25:54,999 --> 00:25:57,870
we're loading a picture. So if you're not

735
00:25:57,870 --> 00:26:00,275
embracing everything in all the mess I think

736
00:26:00,275 --> 00:26:02,260
it's gonna be really difficult for you to

737
00:26:02,260 --> 00:26:03,157
start your world

738
00:26:03,531 --> 00:26:04,031
and

739
00:26:04,404 --> 00:26:07,183
be successful. And then ultimately, of course, that

740
00:26:07,183 --> 00:26:10,621
financial freedom because obviously, that's part of why

741
00:26:10,621 --> 00:26:12,138
we're doing. Yeah. Absolutely.

742
00:26:12,936 --> 00:26:14,932
Okay. Well, we're we're heading to the end

743
00:26:14,932 --> 00:26:17,646
here. And so I guess Wendy, we love

744
00:26:17,646 --> 00:26:19,251
to end with a call to action. So

745
00:26:19,251 --> 00:26:20,918
let's put your put yourself in the place

746
00:26:20,918 --> 00:26:21,418
of

747
00:26:22,029 --> 00:26:23,458
wendy 01:25

748
00:26:23,458 --> 00:26:23,934
years ago.

749
00:26:25,046 --> 00:26:26,792
What would you tell yourself now? Yeah.

750
00:26:27,999 --> 00:26:29,828
Yeah. I was ready for this.

751
00:26:30,465 --> 00:26:32,533
Okay. Number 1, because Kite always got number

752
00:26:32,533 --> 00:26:35,396
1 is read read read read reread. Sorry

753
00:26:35,396 --> 00:26:38,606
to to go back and reiterate, but Linkedin

754
00:26:38,606 --> 00:26:40,444
is a huge part of how we connect.

755
00:26:41,483 --> 00:26:43,241
Take advantage of some of the people that

756
00:26:43,241 --> 00:26:44,840
are connected on My Linkedin.

757
00:26:45,731 --> 00:26:47,320
If you haven't done a shout out to

758
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,181
people like Terry Sup who have so many

759
00:26:50,181 --> 00:26:52,486
things we can learn from. Use Linkedin,

760
00:26:52,980 --> 00:26:55,059
read, Look at what's trending on they are,

761
00:26:55,779 --> 00:26:57,299
super important. Number 2,

762
00:26:58,259 --> 00:26:58,759
absolutely

763
00:26:59,619 --> 00:27:02,450
think about what you love. What you're passionate

764
00:27:02,506 --> 00:27:04,809
about, What means something to you. We're coming

765
00:27:04,809 --> 00:27:06,238
up doing a really hot,

766
00:27:07,032 --> 00:27:09,096
really important time in our history.

767
00:27:09,588 --> 00:27:11,574
Where we'd vote and we get involved in

768
00:27:11,574 --> 00:27:13,877
what politics means to you.

769
00:27:14,512 --> 00:27:16,839
And the last thing I wanted say is

770
00:27:17,864 --> 00:27:19,615
1 of the most important impacts that I've

771
00:27:19,615 --> 00:27:21,230
ever done is written my eu.

772
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:25,188
I really want to know what is it

773
00:27:25,188 --> 00:27:27,590
that I want said when I'm gone.

774
00:27:28,625 --> 00:27:31,012
And the amazing thing is I'm actually still

775
00:27:31,012 --> 00:27:31,728
here today.

776
00:27:32,763 --> 00:27:34,831
So no. Baloney needs excuses.

777
00:27:35,642 --> 00:27:37,631
If I wanna travel more, then I'm gonna

778
00:27:37,631 --> 00:27:39,937
do that. If I want to fill in

779
00:27:39,937 --> 00:27:41,687
the blank, be more athletic.

780
00:27:42,980 --> 00:27:45,859
I'm gonna exercise more or or better or

781
00:27:45,859 --> 00:27:46,179
smarter.

782
00:27:46,819 --> 00:27:49,140
You get to change and make the ability

783
00:27:49,140 --> 00:27:49,960
to change

784
00:27:50,259 --> 00:27:52,511
and the ad agile, and then use your

785
00:27:52,511 --> 00:27:55,382
own inspiration. You know, my stories work for

786
00:27:55,382 --> 00:27:57,875
some and not for everyone. So

787
00:27:58,412 --> 00:28:00,779
absolutely look at what turns you on, and

788
00:28:00,979 --> 00:28:02,890
don't lose sight of it. Well said. Don't

789
00:28:02,890 --> 00:28:03,368
lose sight.

790
00:28:04,165 --> 00:28:06,656
So everybody just keep in mind, podcast

791
00:28:07,032 --> 00:28:09,023
dot show slash b I is where you

792
00:28:09,023 --> 00:28:11,743
can keep up with. Our publicly streaming podcast,

793
00:28:11,982 --> 00:28:13,652
and it was wonderful to have everybody.

794
00:28:14,844 --> 00:28:17,150
And, yeah, I... This felt good. Should we

795
00:28:17,150 --> 00:28:17,866
should we do it again?

796
00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:21,701
I think we should do it again and

797
00:28:21,701 --> 00:28:23,532
get more impact and send us questions,

798
00:28:24,009 --> 00:28:26,397
follow us and send us off, comments and

799
00:28:26,397 --> 00:28:27,772
questions and people. So

800
00:28:28,242 --> 00:28:29,435
Until next time everybody,

801
00:28:30,150 --> 00:28:30,866
take care.

802
00:28:40,031 --> 00:28:42,261
This has been a production of balancing life's

803
00:28:42,261 --> 00:28:44,491
issues with your host, Kai Sore, and Wendy

804
00:28:44,651 --> 00:28:44,944
Warner

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