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- Belief is just a thought
that I've thought a lot.

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So if I believe I can't,
if I shift that thinking,

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I can believe something different

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and I can be something different

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and it's time to be something different.

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- Welcome to balancing
Life's Issues, the podcast.

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I'm your host Kai, and today we're here

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to continue the celebration
of Women's History Month

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by sharing the stories of inspiring women

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and honoring the choices

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that they've made throughout their lives.

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Today, Wendy invited
National speaker, trainer,

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and Toastmasters graduate Rock
Alon onto the podcast Raw.

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Got their bachelor's in
strategic communication from the

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University of North Texas
and claimed their master's in

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clinical counseling from UNT Dallas.

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They went on to found their
own emotional intelligence

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consulting company in 2020.

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Take it away, Wendy.

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- Hey Rah, how are ya?

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- I'm doing so well this morning, Wendy,

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how about yourself? Good.

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- I'm so happy you like,
popped in to my living room

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and, um, I love talking to
brilliant women, so thank you.

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Um, I appreciate that.

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And, and we're, we're just
taking some time out this month

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to highlight, um, women

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and especially caring smart,
amazing women that are helping

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to change the world in their own way.

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So instead of me introducing you,

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I'm gonna just throw it over to you.

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Like, can you tell our
everyone who you are?

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- Absolutely. So my name is
Raw Kalon de She pronouns.

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I am the creator and owner
of Raw Kalon Coaching

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and Consulting, an emotional
intelligence agency

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that helps individuals,
couples, communities,

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and companies understand

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that they are not simply
enough, but they are more than.

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So in a nutshell, I just
help people, people better

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through welcoming with
them, with emotional health

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and emotional intelligence.

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And it's been a lifelong
journey and very fulfilling.

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- You know, it, it's so funny

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'cause sometimes you ever
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and say like, don't
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Like, and what would you say?

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Like, but the problem Wendy is,

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- Oh, the problem Wendy, is

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that people don't trust themselves.

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There are lots of things that we know,

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we know on a deep cellular level.

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However, we have been
conditioned throughout life

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to trust people

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and circumstances external
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And so, especially as women,
especially as women of color,

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I know that I can find myself
having imposter syndrome

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or self-doubt that just
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in my full potential.

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So what I've been able to do

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and what I'm doing all my
life is removing those layers

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of doubt, revealing the
truth, and then embodying that

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and reminding other people to do the same.

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- Oh my goodness. I need tip number one.

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- Tip number one is sit with yourself,

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become comfortable in your own solitude.

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You'll be amazed at how quickly
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As soon as you sit your butt
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that you think that if
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you're missing something.

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and sitting with you,
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you're missing everything.

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and your feelings determine what you think

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and your thoughts determine your behavior.

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So yeah, that's thought number
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that's been a challenge for you?

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where it's like been like,
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to think about is starting
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connecting with people.

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be a licensed counselor,
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that I was around, honestly
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- Wait a minute, raw,
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especially if you know
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to discourage me, they
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- Wanna shield you, but really
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it is one of those moments where
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self-acceptance and
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gift making room for you.

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All of that started with this.

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- So do you have women that
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that you know, or that you don't know,

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I don't know if you wanna use
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and you're networking,
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or there a lot of women of color

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and you're like, I wanna be like her.

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there's no other woman I
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Uh, but I do have Dr.
Quinta, Dr. Chandler.

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and emotional health that I
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to when my world is spending.

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because you know how to help
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that you are constantly working
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You know, one thing here at
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like our own health, our own family.

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So will you share with us like
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other world like over there for you, raw,

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like your family, your health?
How's it going for you?

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- I would say that my body is changing.

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I'm 32 and I can tell and I can feel that.

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but I'm looking forward to

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what this next evolution looks like.

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My family is doing well, we are thriving

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and grateful to be doing so.

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This marks the 10 year anniversary

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of my mother passing away.

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And so this 10 year moment,
there's a lot of full circle.

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There's a lot of appreciation
for not being in the depths

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of grief like we were, but still knowing

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that grief holds a place within us,

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we've just grown bigger than
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- Do you think that, like,
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where you mean 32?

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I'm enough to be your
mom over here. Right?

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I'll ask you this question,
and I don't mean it negative,

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but it does come out a little negative,

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is we just haven't made enough progress.

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I feel like we just haven't
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How are you feeling about like
women and our empowerment?

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- You know, I, I think that we have made,

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we've made progress, but
there's always more to be done

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for me and my perspective.

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It really is about
appreciating where you're at

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and using that as a catalyst
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I find that if I'm always
only having my sight set on

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where I want to get to
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to come off ungrateful and I'll get fussy

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and then I'll start to put up obstacles

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that aren't even necessarily there.

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I've had 100% success,

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success rate at getting to where I'm at.

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- The scenic route, you know, take,

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taking all the scenery, taking the views.

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But by this point now I am
just eager to see women embody,

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honoring the desires of their heart,

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not feeling selfish for that.

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Recognizing self care is self preservation

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and that by doing so, you
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of your village, to the
rest of the community.

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So let me ask you the hardest
question. What's that?

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Now in context, I have been
called some names along the way

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'cause I want what I want, what I want it.

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Mm-Hmm, <affirmative> and

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that word witch, but it
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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative> rhyme.
Different first letter. Mm-Hmm.

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<affirmative>. Has it ever happened

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to you? And how do you feel about that?

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- You know, with the
energy that I have, Wendy,

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people don't talk to me like that.

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And if they talk about me like
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to do it to my face because I,

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- But how, tell me how
you set that boundary.

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How did you change that?
Like, what did you do, rod?

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That I can learn from
that They would never

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say that about me, Wendy.

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'cause that's what I hear
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I don't know what they do when they're not

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And, and you know what, I'm good with that

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'cause we can't control control that.

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But, but what do you think?
What do you think you've done?

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And I, I mean, really tell me
what do you think you've done

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that that's just not
part of the conversation

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where they would say
to your face, you know,

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you're a a, a witch.

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Mm-Hmm. <affirmative>. But the other one

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- I've respected myself

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and I have put myself in positions

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where other people respect me too.

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So that even when they disagree
with me, there's no need

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to talk crazy to one another.

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And also they know that I am so observant

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and I am so aware of how I navigate people

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and how I lead with humility.

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That if they did get that low vibrational,

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if they did choose to behave
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they would be kicking themselves out

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of an opportunity to work with me.

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So when we disagree, they just
find an amicable way to do it

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because why would you
wanna miss out on someone

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who has this much to offer? Whoa,

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- Whoa.

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You know what I hear from
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I self-confidence,

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- Uh, and, and self-confidence.

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Not arrogance confidence.

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- Yeah. But you know, ra
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but let's, let's turn this into a

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real coaching moment for a minute.

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Okay? I went to a function last night

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and there were a lot of people there,

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and I, I thought I looked
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and, but not, and, and
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and, you know, it was
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Not one person commented on my attire,

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but they did on everyone else's.

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Mm mm-Hmm, <affirmative>. And I went home

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- Mm.
- Where, well, what happens with that?

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What's wrong with me <laugh>?

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- Well, it's not even.
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that question, what's wrong with me?

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A better question is what happened to me?

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It's not, what's wrong
with you? What happened?

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And what happens with most
women is that we're conditioned

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to find value in our appearance,

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not necessarily at the
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what we are contributing.

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you have this thoughtfulness over,

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I put intention into how I look.

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I want other people to appreciate that.

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But at the end of the day,
as long as you enjoyed

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how you were styling, that's
what matters. You know,

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- What would be the last thing?

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Like if you were, if you were,
you know, you're on your,

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your ability now to
communicate to the world and,

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and no script, um,

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women's history month, you would say

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- What I would say women, it's time.

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The future is female,

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but the present moment
is divinely feminine.

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I would say that the door
is locked from the inside.

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So stop waiting for someone
to come and save you.

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You have all the things you're equipped,

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even if you don't feel
prepared to save yourself.

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It just comes with sitting your butt down

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and getting familiar with who
that self you're saving is

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leading with that self-acceptance

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and that unconditional
compassion that it is not

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what is wrong with me,
but what happened to me

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that conditioned me to
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And that a belief is just a
thought that I've thought a lot.

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if I shift that thinking,

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I can believe something different

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and I can be something different

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and it's time to be something different.

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- I don't think you could
get any better than that.

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She's a freaking genius off.

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So I, all I can do is
tell you I'm grateful

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for your relationship and your
words and yeah, thank you.

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- Of course. Well have me on anytime.

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I love coming to your, your
living room and talking with

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- You.

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- Big thanks to Raw Kalan and
Wendy for today's episode.

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If you'd like to hear more from Raw,

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this month's free BLI webinar

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Until next time, everyone take care.

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