1 00:00:00,110 --> 00:00:00,943 . 2 00:00:02,740 --> 00:00:04,630 Welcome to Balancing Life's Issues, 3 00:00:04,730 --> 00:00:08,190 the podcast that helps define work-life balance. I'm your host, Kai, 4 00:00:08,190 --> 00:00:11,870 and I'm here with the c e o of b l I. Wendy Wallner. How are you today? 5 00:00:12,100 --> 00:00:15,910 Good. Super excited to have this conversation. This is an edgy one, Kai. 6 00:00:16,670 --> 00:00:17,950 . I know. Well, you know, 7 00:00:17,950 --> 00:00:21,710 what I wanted to do is start kind of just talking about what's happening in the 8 00:00:21,710 --> 00:00:24,070 work-life balance world, because that's what you've been doing mm-hmm. 9 00:00:24,110 --> 00:00:27,630 for 30 years. Mm-hmm. . Um, but before we get there, 10 00:00:27,790 --> 00:00:31,240 I just wanted to ask ya, you've been wearing two watches lately. 11 00:00:31,390 --> 00:00:32,223 Yeah. I just. 12 00:00:32,230 --> 00:00:33,800 What, what's, what's that all about? I. 13 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:34,633 Just took one off. 14 00:00:35,060 --> 00:00:36,480 So which one did you go with? I. 15 00:00:36,480 --> 00:00:37,320 Went with the Garmin, 16 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,720 which is quite causing quite the fervor in the work life world to, uh, 17 00:00:42,090 --> 00:00:43,880 apple, uh, to put Apple away. 18 00:00:44,260 --> 00:00:46,160 Uh, and, you know, why did, why did you go with Garmin? You. 19 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:46,360 Know, 20 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,000 I really am one of the people that's so committed to the idea of having it all. 21 00:00:50,260 --> 00:00:54,880 Um, and it does segue into what we wanna talk about today, but, you know, 22 00:00:55,260 --> 00:00:59,440 um, and it, today's a perfect day to have this conversation because, um, 23 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:05,080 I didn't sleep well. Mm. And the Garmin is so intuitive and has so, 24 00:01:05,100 --> 00:01:08,840 so many settings that it, it, it, it gave me a message right away saying, 25 00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:12,280 you know what, Wendy, you're gonna have to slow it down today. Yeah. Um, 26 00:01:12,580 --> 00:01:15,880 and you're gonna have to give yourself more of a break. Um, 27 00:01:16,500 --> 00:01:19,640 and be mindful that because I didn't sleep well, 28 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,280 I can't have a day like yesterday. Right. And so, 29 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:27,240 I think we all need as much help coaches, therapists, friends, 30 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:31,800 significant others who really do watch out for us. And my garmin's there for me, 31 00:01:32,070 --> 00:01:35,640 it's, it's given me the message. Take it down a notch today. 32 00:01:36,110 --> 00:01:38,800 Yeah. Take it down a notch. Yeah. I appreciate that. And, you know, 33 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:41,520 it's that kind of, that idea of the body battery we were talking about, right? 34 00:01:41,590 --> 00:01:43,200 Yeah. So like, what, 35 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,080 what are you doing today to make sure that that battery's staying at a level 36 00:01:47,350 --> 00:01:50,680 that gives you the energy to get through? Right. Get through your day. Yeah. 37 00:01:51,220 --> 00:01:53,080 You know, speaking of getting through the day, 38 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:56,960 there's this article from Glamour Mag magazine uk and the headline, 39 00:01:57,340 --> 00:01:59,920 and you're already smiling, the headline is, 40 00:01:59,990 --> 00:02:04,040 lazy Girl Jobs might just be the secret to work-life balance. 41 00:02:04,220 --> 00:02:07,840 So first I have to say, um, maybe this is a little arrogant, 42 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:12,800 but if you are a follower on our social media, I picked it up right away. Um, 43 00:02:12,920 --> 00:02:15,760 I picked it up before the New York Times, before Wall Street Journal, 44 00:02:15,940 --> 00:02:19,680 before any of the news stations. That's one of the things that I, 45 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:23,000 we pride ourselves here at B L I, that we're really, we're, 46 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,800 we're the best news clipping in the industry. We're the ones that are gonna, um, 47 00:02:26,990 --> 00:02:28,560 tell you what you need to know. Mm-hmm. . 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,040 So I think that's the first thing that I saw this, 49 00:02:31,230 --> 00:02:35,960 this entire controversy and debate coming. Um, and I think it's important, 50 00:02:36,020 --> 00:02:39,320 Kai, that we send both, we set both sides up, and then I, 51 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:41,560 I'll share why I feel so strongly about one side. 52 00:02:41,980 --> 00:02:45,280 So let's talk about why some people are loving this lazy girl idea. 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:47,240 I think it's the most brilliant thing ever. And by the way, 54 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,800 I think it's interesting is that theoretically it shouldn't be gender. Right? 55 00:02:51,150 --> 00:02:54,320 Exactly. And that, that was, as I read through the article as a man, 56 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,760 I was kind of thinking that to myself, how am I, what, what, 57 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,080 what am I identifying with here, here? But really it's, you know, 58 00:03:00,180 --> 00:03:03,440 it refers to administrative, remote working flexible roles, 59 00:03:04,010 --> 00:03:05,800 which have a relatively decent. 60 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:06,140 Salary. 61 00:03:06,140 --> 00:03:09,240 Now we're doing this today when Zoom just announced that they're making their 62 00:03:09,510 --> 00:03:13,400 individuals, their employees go back to work. So how hilarious is it? 63 00:03:14,310 --> 00:03:14,670 Yeah. 64 00:03:14,670 --> 00:03:18,520 That zoom. Yeah. Supposedly working cutting edge is saying, no, no, no, 65 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,600 you can't work remotely. So that already throws a cringe into this whole idea. 66 00:03:23,370 --> 00:03:27,000 Right. And I guess as the article defined it, administrative, remote, working, 67 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:28,720 flexible, decent salary, 68 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,240 I redefined that as fairly compensated for task driven roles that most people 69 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,400 don't want to do, and fewer are good at that offers proper work-life balance. 70 00:03:38,460 --> 00:03:42,800 So I think the argument is that the way that we're operating today globally is 71 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,640 there are very few organizations where the best and the brightest can 72 00:03:47,670 --> 00:03:49,920 have it all the way it's set up today, 73 00:03:51,010 --> 00:03:54,600 there seems to be no option. And depe not, 74 00:03:54,870 --> 00:03:58,640 doesn't matter how you identify sexuality or your age, or, or, 75 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:02,920 it just seems to me that those people are just done. They're just saying, no, 76 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,880 Wendy, you're wrong. I've tried it. And the world at work, even not-for-profits, 77 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,360 hospital settings, there's no choice for me except to do this lazy world 78 00:04:13,980 --> 00:04:18,010 and to just coast. Mm-hmm. . Um, and I'm, 79 00:04:18,110 --> 00:04:22,330 I'm not gonna disagree. I think we have to, as companies, small or big, 80 00:04:22,980 --> 00:04:27,410 begin to reinvent everything, otherwise the best and the brightest, 81 00:04:27,410 --> 00:04:28,490 they're gonna opt out. 82 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:30,130 Yeah. And, you know, 83 00:04:30,130 --> 00:04:34,810 and if there is a job at your company that has little to no responsibility 84 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:39,730 and can afford someone to check out like that, whose fault is that? Right. 85 00:04:40,280 --> 00:04:41,290 More often than not, 86 00:04:41,470 --> 00:04:45,850 we look to the employee to blame the great resignation like this anti work 87 00:04:46,170 --> 00:04:47,010 movement, but like. 88 00:04:47,250 --> 00:04:47,820 Quitting. 89 00:04:47,820 --> 00:04:52,290 Quiet, quitting you. Why is the workforce in, in this mindset? 90 00:04:52,500 --> 00:04:52,950 Right. 91 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:54,890 You know what, I think it's really interesting. You know, 92 00:04:55,270 --> 00:04:58,570 one of the things that I've always thought was so profound was, you know, 93 00:04:58,570 --> 00:05:01,450 if you're a doctor every year you have to go back for training to keep your 94 00:05:01,450 --> 00:05:06,050 license a dentist, um, a a plumber, an engineer. I mean, you could go on and on, 95 00:05:06,050 --> 00:05:09,170 right? But me, as a C E O, theoretically, 96 00:05:09,250 --> 00:05:11,890 I graduated from University of Pennsylvania, you know, grad school, 97 00:05:12,210 --> 00:05:15,330 Syracuse undergrad. I never need to take another class. Right? I mean, I'm, 98 00:05:15,390 --> 00:05:18,290 I'm supposedly done. Mm-hmm. I'm a cook, right. Chicken, I'm perfect. 99 00:05:18,530 --> 00:05:21,050 I don't need, so that's the first thing is that, you know, 100 00:05:21,070 --> 00:05:23,610 and now I know this is self, you know, self-promoting, right? 101 00:05:23,730 --> 00:05:25,770 'cause I believe in education training, that's what we do. 102 00:05:26,710 --> 00:05:29,210 But I start every morning listening to podcasts. 103 00:05:29,210 --> 00:05:33,170 What do I need to learn today and how am I gonna change the organization? 104 00:05:33,270 --> 00:05:36,650 And it's a little crazy, right? It's a little wild west here at B L I I, 105 00:05:36,930 --> 00:05:40,170 I almost never know when anyone's on or working or not working. I mean, 106 00:05:40,170 --> 00:05:41,410 you know, it's definitely a, you know, 107 00:05:41,550 --> 00:05:44,810 and I can understand where certain leaders are gonna say that's just, 108 00:05:44,830 --> 00:05:48,690 that's too much. I can't handle it. Um, I think, so to me, 109 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:51,730 this is a shout out to leaders in organization, 110 00:05:51,830 --> 00:05:54,690 to managers in organizations to be very mindful of, 111 00:05:55,070 --> 00:05:58,360 if we wanna get amazing people like Kai or his wife or my kids, 112 00:05:58,380 --> 00:06:03,360 or any of these people that are really the ones that are gonna bring us into 113 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:07,000 the next phase of, of amazingness, 114 00:06:07,350 --> 00:06:09,600 then we have to reinvent everything. 115 00:06:10,410 --> 00:06:14,040 Right? Right. Which takes work. And, you know, I think you're, 116 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,280 you're speaking to the younger generation that's coming up that is stepping into 117 00:06:18,280 --> 00:06:21,520 manager roles, that's stepping into C-level roles. Right. I, 118 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:26,600 I would argue most of that group is pushing back against 119 00:06:26,660 --> 00:06:30,040 the traditional notions of what work is because. 120 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,480 They're not inspired anymore. 121 00:06:32,030 --> 00:06:35,720 There's a bigger problem here that I wanna make sure. So, um, 122 00:06:35,770 --> 00:06:38,160 let's just stop for a minute and say, congratulations, 123 00:06:38,300 --> 00:06:39,760 you have a new little one in the world. 124 00:06:40,500 --> 00:06:42,480 Oh, yes. Miles, Eric. 125 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:47,960 , miles Eric is coming into a world that we want to believe he 126 00:06:48,060 --> 00:06:51,880 can, um, do whatever he wants and have it all mm-hmm. 127 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,000 and be proud of themselves. And my concern mostly, 128 00:06:56,180 --> 00:06:57,440 and I interviewed, you know, 129 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:01,160 maybe 20 or 30 people in last week for today's podcast about this lazy, 130 00:07:02,060 --> 00:07:05,240 is are they proud of themselves when they opt out? 131 00:07:06,090 --> 00:07:06,923 Right. 132 00:07:07,060 --> 00:07:11,720 And that got them thinking about what does it feel like to not be at their best? 133 00:07:12,100 --> 00:07:15,680 And are they role modeling for the little ones in the world? Mm-hmm. 134 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:19,760 , you work super hard. You keep up, you know, your music and your, 135 00:07:19,820 --> 00:07:22,000 um, your relationships and your in-laws, and you, 136 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,640 the list goes on and on and on. Right. 137 00:07:24,260 --> 00:07:26,240 And that's what Maya is gonna see growing up. 138 00:07:26,750 --> 00:07:30,920 He's gonna see a balanced person that understands 139 00:07:31,550 --> 00:07:33,680 that you fill your cup up, 140 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,560 or we call 'em buckets over here in very different ways. 141 00:07:37,590 --> 00:07:41,640 He's not gonna see a, a parent who just says, you know what mm-hmm. 142 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,640 , I'm done. And this is good enough. I think the word lazy, 143 00:07:46,580 --> 00:07:48,720 and I know there's so much, you know, everyone's saying, oh, 144 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,600 we don't really mean lazy. Right. But you kind of do, 145 00:07:53,170 --> 00:07:55,710 you're kind of saying, just go get your paycheck. 146 00:07:55,890 --> 00:08:00,270 And that's a good thing because you have more energy, more body battery Yeah. 147 00:08:00,270 --> 00:08:01,103 For everything else. 148 00:08:01,570 --> 00:08:04,710 How are we role modeling for Miles that that's the best he can do? 149 00:08:05,220 --> 00:08:09,030 Yeah. Well, I guess I would argue that being in the music industry, right? 150 00:08:09,170 --> 00:08:12,070 That's, yeah. I went to school for music and, you know, 151 00:08:12,070 --> 00:08:14,070 moved to New York City and I was doing the music thing. 152 00:08:14,370 --> 00:08:18,670 All the jobs I had were in support of what I wanted to do musically and 153 00:08:18,830 --> 00:08:23,350 creatively, right? Because mm-hmm. , it's a hard reality for, um, 154 00:08:23,830 --> 00:08:27,710 musicians out there. Um, I would say, or creatives, artists, you know, 155 00:08:27,710 --> 00:08:32,270 people in that realm. It doesn't really pay the bills. Um, it fills the soul. 156 00:08:32,770 --> 00:08:36,270 Um, it makes you happy. Um, so you have to supplement that. 157 00:08:36,290 --> 00:08:39,510 So I do think I'm in a, I'm in a unique category of, 158 00:08:40,780 --> 00:08:43,510 call it lazy at that coffee job, right? 159 00:08:44,070 --> 00:08:48,990 I cared about doing a good job there while I was at, at the barista gig, um, 160 00:08:48,990 --> 00:08:53,190 helping pay rent. But ultimately my efforts and my, 161 00:08:53,290 --> 00:08:56,000 my true passions lied somewhere else. Okay. 162 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:56,960 So wait, I would say to you, 163 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,280 that's really interesting because then maybe it's true that your music becomes 164 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,720 more of a hobby, right? Um, and if you read the next big, 165 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:07,560 the next big thing is that we are hobby shopping. Mm-hmm. . Um, 166 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:11,640 so yeah. I mean, I'm not gonna say everybody becomes, um, you know, oh, 167 00:09:11,680 --> 00:09:14,720 I would date myself if I did a Rod Stewart. Right? Something. 168 00:09:15,140 --> 00:09:16,680 Ah, Rod's still out there. Okay. 169 00:09:16,680 --> 00:09:20,720 Perfect. . Um, but first of all, I just wanna say, you know, some, 170 00:09:20,770 --> 00:09:25,240 there is a small, but some follow their love and they're, it does work, right? 171 00:09:25,470 --> 00:09:29,800 Yeah. So the other problem, concern where I have about this lazy, um, 172 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:33,920 movement, this lazy girl movement is, um, 173 00:09:34,420 --> 00:09:37,080 how many are going to stop when it gets hard? 174 00:09:37,990 --> 00:09:38,460 Yeah. 175 00:09:38,460 --> 00:09:41,640 Um, you know, so that's number one. And number two, 176 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,600 I think the other piece about it is that, you know, 177 00:09:44,700 --> 00:09:48,600 you didn't wanna come over into the corporate world, right? Um mm-hmm. 178 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:49,220 . And, 179 00:09:49,220 --> 00:09:53,400 and I think it's interesting that it's not all been what you've wanted. 180 00:09:54,250 --> 00:09:55,320 Right? Right. 181 00:09:55,460 --> 00:09:58,400 Um, it's not, you know, there are many meetings that are like, Ugh, 182 00:09:58,460 --> 00:10:01,600 do I have to do that meeting again? Or, you know, right? Mm-hmm. , 183 00:10:01,620 --> 00:10:05,880 and you can talk to that, but you're not taking a lazy way out. 184 00:10:05,980 --> 00:10:10,000 So there's a middle ground there that employee also has to meet, right? 185 00:10:10,590 --> 00:10:14,720 Yeah. It just kind of seems though, at, at the end of the day as an employer, 186 00:10:14,890 --> 00:10:19,120 right? I think a lot of our listeners are employers, are managers, 187 00:10:19,220 --> 00:10:24,110 and we want to communicate how to communicate with 188 00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:25,670 a generation that's coming into your workforce. 189 00:10:26,130 --> 00:10:26,963 And parents. 190 00:10:27,610 --> 00:10:28,270 And. 191 00:10:28,270 --> 00:10:31,430 I love that we, that we do, and I did it yesterday for a very big client. 192 00:10:31,950 --> 00:10:35,030 I made it clear that we always sit here wearing many different, 193 00:10:35,170 --> 00:10:39,310 at every moment we're wearing, you know, not that one b l I podcast hat, right? 194 00:10:39,310 --> 00:10:40,310 Right. Mm-hmm. . Um, 195 00:10:40,450 --> 00:10:44,710 and even Miles at his whopping six weeks old is watching and listening and 196 00:10:44,710 --> 00:10:47,550 hearing to every word you say. Right. And matter of fact, 197 00:10:47,550 --> 00:10:50,910 there's some cultures who say they're born at one because they count in utero. 198 00:10:50,910 --> 00:10:52,550 Yeah. They say, Hey, whatcha talking about, 199 00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:56,790 they already developed a sense of the world mm-hmm. . And so, yeah. 200 00:10:56,870 --> 00:11:01,390 I mean, one of the things I'm so proud of is that we work super hard. 201 00:11:01,860 --> 00:11:06,630 Yeah. But hopefully on things that can continue 202 00:11:07,170 --> 00:11:08,430 our passions, our beliefs. 203 00:11:08,570 --> 00:11:11,950 And I really believe that if managers take a step back, 204 00:11:12,050 --> 00:11:13,830 it doesn't matter what you do for a living, 205 00:11:14,300 --> 00:11:16,270 it's how you see what you do for a living. 206 00:11:16,980 --> 00:11:21,190 I've done so many amazing conversations for bus drivers in this country. 207 00:11:21,370 --> 00:11:25,430 One of the populations that I love, because I know, you know, shout out to Mike, 208 00:11:25,450 --> 00:11:29,630 our bus driver in our community. Who knew I was a single mom with three kids. 209 00:11:29,650 --> 00:11:31,630 So I wanna tell a Mike bus story. 210 00:11:32,090 --> 00:11:33,030 You got it. Can't wait. 211 00:11:33,100 --> 00:11:36,710 Mike was there when I got divorced. My kids were very young, and they were six, 212 00:11:36,710 --> 00:11:40,230 seven, and nine. And from a very young age, they, 213 00:11:40,420 --> 00:11:43,070 they learned that Mike knew their schedule. 214 00:11:43,530 --> 00:11:45,230 Did they need to bring their instrument that day? 215 00:11:45,290 --> 00:11:47,630 Did they have their lunch money? You know, did, 216 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:50,590 could he check in with them about the sports schedules? And, 217 00:11:50,850 --> 00:11:52,910 and Mike became part of our family. Mm-hmm. The fact, 218 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,000 fact that he happened to drive a bus really wasn't what he did for a living. 219 00:11:56,210 --> 00:11:59,200 Right. What he did for a living was add to our community. 220 00:11:59,470 --> 00:12:02,000 Yeah. Engage with the community, be there, support. 221 00:12:02,030 --> 00:12:04,400 Care. And I think it's interesting, right, that the, 222 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,880 when I read these articles about this lazy girl, 223 00:12:07,340 --> 00:12:10,320 it sounds like they're so emotionally detached from their world. 224 00:12:11,110 --> 00:12:13,440 What kind of community are we gonna have? 225 00:12:13,830 --> 00:12:17,440 Yeah. I mean, it is where you find yourself in a moment. And, you know, 226 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:21,320 granted everything we've experienced the last few years, you know, 227 00:12:21,840 --> 00:12:24,640 I was somebody who had to quit my job because I had, 228 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:29,720 I had the space finally to understand how I didn't think I was being 229 00:12:29,740 --> 00:12:33,880 fairly treated. Right. Long way of saying, here we are, 230 00:12:34,100 --> 00:12:37,280 I'm being fairly treated because there's a work-life balance. 231 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:38,720 But it started with a conversation, Wendy, 232 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:43,640 and I think you often check in with me as an employee with all of our 233 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,840 employees. Um, there're often staff meetings you're like, like, let's talk guys. 234 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:50,840 Like how are you feeling? How are you balancing all this? 235 00:12:51,100 --> 00:12:55,920 And I admire how you help the company pivot this way, 236 00:12:55,990 --> 00:12:57,000 that way. So it's. 237 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:58,840 Always, it's, so, it's always good to talk to you, Kai. 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,200 'cause then there's a call to action. So the first thing is, 239 00:13:01,390 --> 00:13:05,480 instead of doing this idea of an exit interview, which companies do you know, 240 00:13:05,540 --> 00:13:09,320 you the, we should be focusing on a stay interview, right? Um mm-hmm. 241 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,200 . And, and it's what do I need to do to keep you here? Um, 242 00:13:12,260 --> 00:13:16,280 and what do I need to do to keep you challenged? So not for every project, 243 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,480 because that's unrealistic. And we're, you know, we're adulting, 244 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:22,600 we are in the adult world. Yes. Right? Yes. , we are. So, you know, 245 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,720 but what do I need to do? That enough of it is, oh, you know what, yeah, 246 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:27,680 I have this today, 247 00:13:27,980 --> 00:13:31,480 but I'm gonna fill my body battery and I wanna talk about something that's 248 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,040 important to me. Like I've been back to running, had a healthcare, 249 00:13:34,190 --> 00:13:37,760 back to running. Everybody kind of knows I'm not really good at it, 250 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,520 but I'm back to running. 'cause we know our physical bodies first. 251 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:45,600 I was a little self-deprecating there. You're out there running. That's great. 252 00:13:45,660 --> 00:13:47,280 Yes. Start there. Okay. Okay. 253 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,160 You know what, lemme tell you, the runner's out there, 254 00:13:49,260 --> 00:13:51,920 you need to stop asking me my, my, my mile. 255 00:13:52,380 --> 00:13:54,440 My mile. Minute mile. Yeah. It's. 256 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:55,360 Not a question, but, um, and, 257 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:57,400 and I love it because now the Garmin watch sends me, 258 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,800 you're an inspiration and love it. Love it. Right. 259 00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:03,320 But I think what's interesting is for this conversation, 260 00:14:03,380 --> 00:14:06,000 and maybe it's a good way to sort of sum up where we're going here, 261 00:14:06,140 --> 00:14:08,800 is our mind is connected. Right? We're, 262 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:10,640 and we're just figuring that out in this culture. 263 00:14:10,710 --> 00:14:14,160 Like when I was in Thailand or Egypt or some other cultures, you know, 264 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:17,960 the MINDBODY connection is 5,000 years old. It's who they're Sure part of it. 265 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,800 Right? Right. Um, I mean, they built the pyramids with no email, with no, 266 00:14:21,940 --> 00:14:24,200 you know, they built the pyramid. Right? 267 00:14:25,140 --> 00:14:27,760 Uh, some, some think that was the alien, but yes, go on. 268 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,480 Alright, I'll take the aliens. They built it without email. 269 00:14:29,550 --> 00:14:31,280 They built without any That's fair. 270 00:14:31,620 --> 00:14:34,600 But they built it because they also focus on intellectualism. 271 00:14:34,940 --> 00:14:37,840 And it is the extreme opposite of lazy. 272 00:14:38,710 --> 00:14:41,720 It's the extreme opposite of how hard it is to do something. 273 00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:45,120 How challenged you are, how welcoming you are to really fail. 274 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:49,880 And that's all out of my comfort zone. Right? Yeah. But it's kind of cool. 275 00:14:50,310 --> 00:14:52,520 Yeah. And I'm kind of getting excited about it, 276 00:14:52,540 --> 00:14:54,800 and it's kind of charging my body battery. Yeah. 277 00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:57,880 So I think it's interesting to think about it. It's not just our bodies, 278 00:14:58,230 --> 00:15:03,200 it's our minds. And it's, it really is the exact opposite of being lazy. 279 00:15:03,590 --> 00:15:04,423 Yeah. Yeah. 280 00:15:04,510 --> 00:15:08,960 That call to action today is to go have that conversation with your employee, 281 00:15:09,430 --> 00:15:12,560 have the have the stay interview. Yeah. Right. Um, 282 00:15:12,980 --> 00:15:16,520 pay attention to what that inner dialogue is telling you about an employee and, 283 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,840 and go talk to 'em about that. And, and the more you can do that, 284 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:24,000 the more you can set the standard of transparency and open communication, I, 285 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 I believe the more, the more you'll get back. So, yeah. 286 00:15:27,350 --> 00:15:30,960 Well, thank you all for joining. Really. Take a minute, share a comment, 287 00:15:31,010 --> 00:15:34,800 argue with us. We love it. Yeah. Disagree with us. Tell us how we're wrong. 288 00:15:34,950 --> 00:15:38,680 We'd love to hear how, how we're messed up. Um, absolutely most important. 289 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Thanks for being here today. 290 00:15:40,100 --> 00:15:43,840 Of course. And, and just a heads up, everyone, um, you know, speaking of Miles, 291 00:15:44,060 --> 00:15:47,320 uh, we're gonna do an episode on postpartum depression coming up because, 292 00:15:47,780 --> 00:15:50,760 you know, we've been sharing my story on social media about, you know, 293 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,760 the goods, like what's going great about, about, uh, having miles in our life. 294 00:15:54,820 --> 00:15:58,360 But there is another side to that story, and we're gonna bring in an expert. 295 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:00,360 We're gonna talk about it. Um, because it, 296 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,320 it is a problem that affects one in eight women, uh, in this country is, 297 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:07,520 is postpartum depression. So, uh, look forward to that episode, 298 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:11,840 that conversation. Um, and that should be drop in, in within the next week, 299 00:16:11,940 --> 00:16:14,800 so long as miles is sleeping enough, uh, 300 00:16:14,900 --> 00:16:18,040 to give me the time I need in the morning, uh, to make it happen. 301 00:16:18,270 --> 00:16:20,560 Yeah. And cutting edge with that new medicine coming out. 302 00:16:20,660 --> 00:16:23,640 So I'm looking forward to it. So thanks everybody. Yep. 303 00:16:23,650 --> 00:16:25,000 Until next time, everyone. Take care. 304 00:16:29,350 --> 00:16:32,680 This has been a production of Balancing Life's Issues with your host, 305 00:16:32,730 --> 00:16:35,280 Wendy Wollner, produced by me, Kai Sorenson. 306 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,000 Subscribe to the podcast wherever you listen and you'll get brand new episodes 307 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,080 as they drop. Got an idea for the show. 308 00:16:41,330 --> 00:16:46,160 Leave a comment or email Kai k i@balancinglifesissues.com.