1 00:00:06,385 --> 00:00:07,605 - Hey everybody, I'm Doug. 2 00:00:07,665 --> 00:00:09,965 That's Connor, and this is the Bethel 3 00:00:09,965 --> 00:00:11,205 School District Presents podcast. 4 00:00:11,455 --> 00:00:13,125 Today we have a great show for you. 5 00:00:13,225 --> 00:00:15,445 I'm gonna be heading over to the Pierce County Skills Center 6 00:00:15,465 --> 00:00:18,445 to talk with students in the criminal justice program 7 00:00:18,945 --> 00:00:20,045 in just a few minutes. 8 00:00:20,305 --> 00:00:21,925 And I have a fun question I'm gonna ask them. 9 00:00:21,925 --> 00:00:23,725 And Connor, I'm gonna ask it of you first, 10 00:00:23,865 --> 00:00:25,565 as is our way here on the pod. 11 00:00:25,745 --> 00:00:27,925 And this week's question actually comes from my nephew. 12 00:00:28,105 --> 00:00:29,925 So thank you to him for sending this. 13 00:00:30,785 --> 00:00:32,805 The question is, if you could go back in time 14 00:00:33,145 --> 00:00:36,005 and witness any event in history, in person, 15 00:00:36,465 --> 00:00:39,165 now you can't get hurt, you can't change the event 16 00:00:39,225 --> 00:00:40,805 and you can't warn anybody, 17 00:00:40,985 --> 00:00:43,485 you're just gonna watch it happen like you are a 18 00:00:43,485 --> 00:00:44,965 ghost. What would it be? 19 00:00:45,265 --> 00:00:49,165 - Ooh, I like that. I like that a lot. Let me see here. 20 00:00:49,645 --> 00:00:51,725 I am a bit of a history buff, as you know, 21 00:00:51,865 --> 00:00:54,645 and two of my favorite historians, bill 22 00:00:54,645 --> 00:00:56,565 and Ted already did this. 23 00:00:56,825 --> 00:00:59,565 And I'm gonna just follow in their amazing footsteps 24 00:00:59,585 --> 00:01:02,005 and go back and hang out with Genghis Kahan. 25 00:01:02,185 --> 00:01:04,285 Eat some Twinkies. Have a good time. 26 00:01:04,435 --> 00:01:05,805 Okay, so Ransack the mall. 27 00:01:06,485 --> 00:01:09,725 - , let me dial you back in to refresh your memory, 28 00:01:09,725 --> 00:01:11,245 which is apparently very short today. 29 00:01:11,245 --> 00:01:14,125 You can't interact with the people you are observing this 30 00:01:14,265 --> 00:01:15,365 as if you're a ghost. 31 00:01:15,635 --> 00:01:17,885 - Well, what if I'm a ghost, like in ghost? 32 00:01:18,185 --> 00:01:19,925 Can I speak with Whoopi Goldberg? 33 00:01:19,985 --> 00:01:21,165 Can I knock pottery off 34 00:01:21,165 --> 00:01:22,405 tables? I mean, what are we talking here? 35 00:01:22,645 --> 00:01:23,765 - I, my dad didn't let me watch 36 00:01:23,765 --> 00:01:24,765 that movie when I was growing up, 37 00:01:24,785 --> 00:01:26,765 so I'm not catching the reference here that 38 00:01:26,765 --> 00:01:29,285 - Tracks - , but no, you can't do that. 39 00:01:29,675 --> 00:01:32,965 - Okay, well in that case, if I have to take a more 40 00:01:33,835 --> 00:01:35,805 observational route to this, 41 00:01:36,145 --> 00:01:39,405 I'm gonna go May 17th, 1966, 42 00:01:40,055 --> 00:01:43,685 Royal Albert Hall, London, England, 43 00:01:44,775 --> 00:01:47,525 world , where one 44 00:01:48,495 --> 00:01:51,835 Robert Zimmerman, AKA Bob Dylan 45 00:01:52,495 --> 00:01:55,835 is playing his first electric show in England. 46 00:01:56,335 --> 00:01:59,875 The fans went crazy, Doug, they hated him, 47 00:01:59,895 --> 00:02:01,835 but it was a classic show they did. 48 00:02:01,935 --> 00:02:04,155 Oh, they couldn't stand him. They called him a sellout. 49 00:02:04,375 --> 00:02:07,715 But we all know now Bob Dylan and Rock 50 00:02:07,715 --> 00:02:09,235 and Roll go hand in hand. 51 00:02:09,385 --> 00:02:11,755 Heck of a show. I would've loved to be there, 52 00:02:12,025 --> 00:02:13,675 give my ghostly moral support. 53 00:02:14,155 --> 00:02:15,875 - Interesting pick. I hadn't thought about concerts, 54 00:02:15,915 --> 00:02:18,275 I was thinking more historical moments like the signing 55 00:02:18,275 --> 00:02:19,675 of the Declaration of Independence 56 00:02:19,675 --> 00:02:21,715 or the Hindenburg Disaster or something like that. 57 00:02:21,975 --> 00:02:23,755 But I like it. Great pick for you. 58 00:02:24,015 --> 00:02:26,075 And we're gonna find out what students at the Pierce County 59 00:02:26,075 --> 00:02:29,675 Skills Center have to say about this question and many more. 60 00:02:30,695 --> 00:02:33,195 I'm here at the Pierce County Skill Center in a pretty 61 00:02:33,425 --> 00:02:34,515 unusual room. 62 00:02:34,695 --> 00:02:36,555 Let me tell you what I'm looking at right now. 63 00:02:36,555 --> 00:02:38,155 Well, first I have three people 64 00:02:38,155 --> 00:02:40,155 around the table looking back at me, wondering 65 00:02:40,155 --> 00:02:41,195 what I'm talking about here. 66 00:02:41,495 --> 00:02:42,715 Uh, we've got Braden. 67 00:02:42,715 --> 00:02:44,475 He is a junior from Sumner High School. 68 00:02:44,575 --> 00:02:47,595 Carter a senior at Graham c house in high school, 69 00:02:47,815 --> 00:02:48,835 and Mikey Vick, 70 00:02:48,895 --> 00:02:51,515 second year instructor here at the Pierce County Skill 71 00:02:51,515 --> 00:02:53,475 Center for the criminal justice program. 72 00:02:54,265 --> 00:02:56,915 Pass them, there's a body on the floor 73 00:02:56,975 --> 00:02:58,835 and that's where I wanna start our conversation. 74 00:02:59,295 --> 00:03:02,485 Mikey, if you can tell me why is our body on the floor here? 75 00:03:02,835 --> 00:03:04,845 - Well, there's several different reasons why, 76 00:03:05,025 --> 00:03:06,965 but uh, it's part of our, uh, curriculum. 77 00:03:06,995 --> 00:03:08,405 Something I kind of built out. 78 00:03:08,455 --> 00:03:10,485 Crime scene investigation's a huge part 79 00:03:10,485 --> 00:03:12,685 of criminal justice with the forensics. 80 00:03:12,685 --> 00:03:15,525 We cover many different things. It's a huge, huge area. 81 00:03:15,665 --> 00:03:16,765 It could take my whole year, 82 00:03:17,145 --> 00:03:18,645 but I only try to manage, uh, 83 00:03:18,645 --> 00:03:20,045 about a month and a half of it. 84 00:03:20,305 --> 00:03:22,605 Um, but with it, they're processing that crime scene. 85 00:03:22,605 --> 00:03:23,925 They're processing the dead body. 86 00:03:24,225 --> 00:03:26,165 Uh, they're looking at the blood analysts, 87 00:03:26,165 --> 00:03:27,205 they're doing everything they can. 88 00:03:27,305 --> 00:03:29,085 So first thing they're gonna come in is they're gonna secure 89 00:03:29,085 --> 00:03:31,525 that scene, make sure everything's good to go get 90 00:03:31,525 --> 00:03:33,005 that initial plan of attack, come in, 91 00:03:33,005 --> 00:03:34,765 they're gonna take their crime scene photos 92 00:03:35,305 --> 00:03:37,205 and they're gonna move into their crime scene sketch, 93 00:03:38,205 --> 00:03:40,405 documenting everything, fixed points, triangulation, 94 00:03:40,715 --> 00:03:43,085 getting everything documented in a crime scene sketch, 95 00:03:43,085 --> 00:03:44,765 obviously with technology in advance. 96 00:03:44,765 --> 00:03:47,525 And we don't have that money to afford a 3D imager 97 00:03:47,525 --> 00:03:48,565 to come out and do it for us. 98 00:03:48,565 --> 00:03:50,525 So it's a good hands-on activity for students 99 00:03:50,585 --> 00:03:51,805 to learn the basics. 100 00:03:52,225 --> 00:03:54,645 And if technology fails now they can 101 00:03:54,675 --> 00:03:55,805 fall back on something else. 102 00:03:56,065 --> 00:03:57,525 And then finally we tie it together 103 00:03:57,525 --> 00:03:59,885 with the students running a whole investigation 104 00:03:59,885 --> 00:04:02,045 where they get to have a mock scene. 105 00:04:02,115 --> 00:04:05,405 They get up divided into their teams, they process, handle, 106 00:04:05,535 --> 00:04:06,925 solve the case at the end of the day, 107 00:04:07,305 --> 00:04:08,725 and they show me who did it. 108 00:04:08,865 --> 00:04:10,845 - That's fantastic. There are not a lot of classes 109 00:04:10,855 --> 00:04:14,405 where you walk into class and there's blood on the desk 110 00:04:14,545 --> 00:04:16,925 and it's part of the class that's ahead of you. 111 00:04:17,265 --> 00:04:19,885 Carter, for you, do you get a warning that this is happening 112 00:04:19,885 --> 00:04:22,125 or do you just walk in and there's a mess 113 00:04:22,305 --> 00:04:25,685 of stuff on your desk, including blood and unknown fluid? 114 00:04:26,305 --> 00:04:27,565 What's that like? Well, 115 00:04:27,675 --> 00:04:30,645 - Some days he'll give us the heads up sort 116 00:04:30,645 --> 00:04:32,005 of on what we're gonna learn. 117 00:04:32,195 --> 00:04:33,365 Just doesn't tell us how. 118 00:04:33,905 --> 00:04:35,885 So some days we could walk into 119 00:04:36,635 --> 00:04:40,725 like a blood splatter some days, a body, some days nothing. 120 00:04:41,365 --> 00:04:42,725 - Interesting. Bet those are the weird days. 121 00:04:42,995 --> 00:04:44,565 - Yeah. Sometimes we even will just walk 122 00:04:44,565 --> 00:04:45,805 into just a pile of handcuffs. 123 00:04:46,285 --> 00:04:47,285 - , - Yeah. 124 00:04:47,715 --> 00:04:48,925 - Tell me about that pile of 125 00:04:49,085 --> 00:04:50,085 - Handcuffs. 126 00:04:50,085 --> 00:04:51,645 So one of our units that we do when we're doing, uh, 127 00:04:51,645 --> 00:04:53,205 police procedures is handcuffing. 128 00:04:53,225 --> 00:04:55,285 So usually he'll just leave him in the bin, 129 00:04:55,285 --> 00:04:57,205 but occasionally he'll throw us a curve ball 130 00:04:57,205 --> 00:04:58,445 and just dump 'em out on a table. 131 00:04:58,855 --> 00:05:01,605 Being able to learn and work with my hands 132 00:05:01,605 --> 00:05:03,245 and then see what I've done wrong 133 00:05:03,245 --> 00:05:05,205 and fix that the next time worked 134 00:05:05,625 --> 00:05:07,085 so much better for me growing up. 135 00:05:07,145 --> 00:05:09,085 So I really enjoy that here. 136 00:05:09,355 --> 00:05:11,685 - Yeah. And it seems this, this class really is one 137 00:05:11,685 --> 00:05:14,125 that excels at that, the, that hands-on learning. 138 00:05:14,125 --> 00:05:15,525 We see it all over the skill center, 139 00:05:15,525 --> 00:05:17,765 whether it's in aerospace or fire science 140 00:05:17,765 --> 00:05:18,925 or here in criminal justice. 141 00:05:19,105 --> 00:05:21,445 Braden, you just mentioned those hands-on classes. 142 00:05:21,945 --> 00:05:23,525 And Mikey, you've already talked a little bit about what 143 00:05:23,525 --> 00:05:26,285 that looks like here in Criminal Justice Carter for you. 144 00:05:26,635 --> 00:05:28,205 Well, how's the hands-on learning here? 145 00:05:28,565 --> 00:05:32,005 - I - Love it. Hands-on is kind of the best thing 146 00:05:32,005 --> 00:05:33,045 that I can do to learn. 147 00:05:33,385 --> 00:05:35,245 Mr. Vick has seen that , he's seen. 148 00:05:35,505 --> 00:05:37,005 I'm obviously not the best at paper, 149 00:05:37,505 --> 00:05:39,485 but when it comes to hands-on 150 00:05:39,785 --> 00:05:42,445 and actually doing like forensics handcuffs, 151 00:05:42,685 --> 00:05:45,365 building searches, I can get it done no problem. 152 00:05:45,585 --> 00:05:48,125 - And that's the ultimate goal, is having many opportunities 153 00:05:48,185 --> 00:05:50,765 to go ahead and process this or to do an assignment. 154 00:05:50,765 --> 00:05:52,765 There's more than one way just to do this. 155 00:05:53,225 --> 00:05:55,485 So if there's an easier way for them to learn 156 00:05:55,485 --> 00:05:58,205 and grasp the understanding of the whole concept, that 157 00:05:58,205 --> 00:05:59,405 that's what I'm really trying to push. 158 00:05:59,945 --> 00:06:01,645 Yes. Do I have a high standard? Yes. 159 00:06:01,645 --> 00:06:02,885 Do I have a high expectation? 160 00:06:02,945 --> 00:06:04,925 Am I gonna put you in a high stress environment? 161 00:06:05,225 --> 00:06:08,205 Of course, I'm trying to get you the industry standard 162 00:06:08,265 --> 00:06:10,965 of what's coming out now, what a police officer's 163 00:06:11,025 --> 00:06:12,845 or a prosecuting attorney 164 00:06:13,225 --> 00:06:16,685 or a death investigator, anything that's tied 165 00:06:16,685 --> 00:06:18,965 to law enforcement, I'm trying to replicate 166 00:06:18,965 --> 00:06:20,085 that here in this classroom 167 00:06:20,185 --> 00:06:22,525 and give you the best example so I can prepare you 168 00:06:22,785 --> 00:06:23,845 for that next step. 169 00:06:24,525 --> 00:06:26,285 - Absolutely. And let's use that as a springboard 170 00:06:26,285 --> 00:06:27,645 to talk about your background. 171 00:06:28,095 --> 00:06:29,605 Where, where, where do you come from? 172 00:06:30,365 --> 00:06:32,765 - I come from a little small little town called R Colorado. 173 00:06:32,985 --> 00:06:34,445 It was a super small town. 174 00:06:34,505 --> 00:06:37,165 Uh, everybody I went to kindergarten with I graduated with. 175 00:06:37,545 --> 00:06:38,845 So I knew I had to get out. 176 00:06:38,985 --> 00:06:42,405 Um, it was just, uh, my oldest sister, 177 00:06:42,905 --> 00:06:45,005 her name was in the same textbook that I used. 178 00:06:45,345 --> 00:06:46,765 - Oh my gosh. - So it was kind 179 00:06:46,765 --> 00:06:47,965 of like, Hey, I gotta get with the times. 180 00:06:48,165 --> 00:06:50,045 I gotta get outta here and kind of see the whole world. 181 00:06:50,345 --> 00:06:51,485 So I joined the military. 182 00:06:51,605 --> 00:06:53,085 I thought that was kind of the best avenue. 183 00:06:53,445 --> 00:06:55,285 I wasn't a, uh, straight a student. 184 00:06:55,365 --> 00:06:56,365 I didn't have a scholarship, 185 00:06:56,445 --> 00:06:57,925 I didn't have opportunities outside. 186 00:06:57,985 --> 00:07:00,205 So I figured joining the military was my best bet. 187 00:07:00,795 --> 00:07:03,045 When I did that, I was able to jump into Office 188 00:07:03,045 --> 00:07:04,245 of Special Investigations 189 00:07:04,305 --> 00:07:06,485 and it kind of opened up my career, opened up my life. 190 00:07:06,865 --> 00:07:09,605 Uh, I was able to run drug investigations. 191 00:07:09,765 --> 00:07:12,245 I was able to run sexual assaults, counter intel, 192 00:07:12,635 --> 00:07:13,765 executive protection. 193 00:07:13,825 --> 00:07:15,765 So it kind of opened the door for a lot of things. 194 00:07:16,305 --> 00:07:19,525 The best way to help shape the future, I believe is, uh, 195 00:07:19,695 --> 00:07:21,685 these students, if we really think about it, 196 00:07:21,685 --> 00:07:23,005 these students are the future. 197 00:07:23,265 --> 00:07:26,205 And what other job do you get to help manipulate or dictate 198 00:07:26,265 --> 00:07:29,605 or coach, mentor be the example, uh, 199 00:07:29,905 --> 00:07:31,565 for these students in this future? 200 00:07:31,905 --> 00:07:33,445 And that's really what I preach 201 00:07:33,705 --> 00:07:34,925 the whole time in this class. 202 00:07:35,585 --> 00:07:37,565 We have the past, we learn from the past. 203 00:07:38,145 --> 00:07:39,285 The present is something 204 00:07:39,285 --> 00:07:40,965 that we're focused on and we plan for. 205 00:07:40,965 --> 00:07:42,845 And that future is that dream. 206 00:07:42,845 --> 00:07:44,805 It's that distance we have to live for today. 207 00:07:45,605 --> 00:07:46,685 - Absolutely. And well said. 208 00:07:46,745 --> 00:07:48,325 As your background shows the world 209 00:07:48,405 --> 00:07:50,965 of criminal justice has a lot of avenues for employment, 210 00:07:50,965 --> 00:07:53,485 police officers, lawyers, paralegals, military police, 211 00:07:53,485 --> 00:07:55,565 corrections officers, probation officers. 212 00:07:55,925 --> 00:07:57,285 I wanna ask you, Carter 213 00:07:57,385 --> 00:07:59,645 and Braden, what got you interested 214 00:07:59,645 --> 00:08:00,765 in this class in the first place? 215 00:08:01,345 --> 00:08:03,525 - So growing up, I've always been surrounded 216 00:08:03,525 --> 00:08:05,245 by military law enforcement. 217 00:08:06,195 --> 00:08:09,125 I've had three uncles serve in the military till later on, 218 00:08:09,505 --> 00:08:10,925 go into law enforcement. 219 00:08:11,385 --> 00:08:14,445 One of 'em actually had a really significant impact on me. 220 00:08:14,875 --> 00:08:17,485 When I was eight, he left the Army 221 00:08:17,705 --> 00:08:21,325 and moved to Virginia to be a sheriff in his hometown. 222 00:08:21,645 --> 00:08:22,725 'cause his dad passed away. 223 00:08:22,905 --> 00:08:25,685 So they offered him his position. Wow. Yeah. 224 00:08:26,345 --> 00:08:28,925 So even now, like still seeing him 225 00:08:29,265 --> 00:08:33,085 and keeping in contact, just learning all these things 226 00:08:33,085 --> 00:08:34,565 that he gets to do 227 00:08:34,565 --> 00:08:38,005 and talk about, it's kind 228 00:08:38,005 --> 00:08:40,125 of just there runs in my family. It, 229 00:08:40,145 --> 00:08:41,145 - It seems like it does. 230 00:08:41,145 --> 00:08:42,245 Braden, how about you? So, 231 00:08:42,425 --> 00:08:46,005 - Uh, me personally, my mom, uh, she went back 232 00:08:46,005 --> 00:08:49,525 to college actually to get a degree in criminal justice for 233 00:08:49,545 --> 00:08:51,445 as a paralegal as well 234 00:08:51,445 --> 00:08:54,805 as I've had a family friend in military, 235 00:08:55,705 --> 00:08:58,725 my grandfather who was a Vietnam vet, uh, 236 00:08:58,725 --> 00:09:00,805 unfortunately he passed before I could ever meet him. 237 00:09:01,665 --> 00:09:04,645 My great-grandfather was an electrician during World War ii. 238 00:09:04,865 --> 00:09:06,605 Uh, he served kind of behind the lines. 239 00:09:06,705 --> 00:09:08,845 He was actually in Sicily when D-Day took place. 240 00:09:08,845 --> 00:09:10,325 Kind of give you a timeframe of when he served. 241 00:09:11,025 --> 00:09:13,285 And on top of that, just my passion, you know, 242 00:09:13,555 --> 00:09:15,405 I've taught myself a lot 243 00:09:15,405 --> 00:09:17,205 of the similar things we learn here. 244 00:09:17,525 --> 00:09:20,285 'cause that's just what I do. I'm a think I plan for things. 245 00:09:20,525 --> 00:09:23,005 I learn. I, I'm a huge history buff. 246 00:09:23,115 --> 00:09:25,805 I've taught myself everything from as far back 247 00:09:25,805 --> 00:09:27,445 as World War II all the way up until now. 248 00:09:27,465 --> 00:09:32,325 So being in a school that has a program that's designed 249 00:09:32,465 --> 00:09:36,085 to teach me about my passion was huge for me. 250 00:09:36,265 --> 00:09:38,605 So I jumped on that opportunity as soon as I could. 251 00:09:38,855 --> 00:09:40,045 - Mikey, lemme come back to you. 252 00:09:40,185 --> 00:09:41,645 You touched on it a little bit before, 253 00:09:41,945 --> 00:09:43,645 but the Skill Center courses are known 254 00:09:43,665 --> 00:09:45,085 for their opportunities for students 255 00:09:45,085 --> 00:09:47,125 to earn college credit and certifications. 256 00:09:47,435 --> 00:09:48,845 What are your students walking away 257 00:09:48,845 --> 00:09:51,005 with upon graduating high school? Right. 258 00:09:51,065 --> 00:09:53,685 - So, uh, the majority of 'em, like I said, walk away with, 259 00:09:53,685 --> 00:09:55,445 uh, dual college credit from PCC. 260 00:09:55,445 --> 00:09:58,365 At the same time they're getting their basic first aid CPR. 261 00:09:58,655 --> 00:09:59,925 We've partnered up with, uh, 262 00:09:59,925 --> 00:10:01,565 Pierce County Emergency Management. 263 00:10:01,565 --> 00:10:03,765 They've offered additional courses to get certified. 264 00:10:03,785 --> 00:10:06,645 So next year students will be walking away with, uh, 265 00:10:06,695 --> 00:10:11,045 basic communication 1 0 1, emergency communication 1 0 2. 266 00:10:11,515 --> 00:10:13,245 Then they're also gonna be getting a, uh, 267 00:10:13,555 --> 00:10:15,165 what they call it is a Stop the Bleed. 268 00:10:15,165 --> 00:10:18,365 But it's almost a, um, it's a first responder kind of CPR. 269 00:10:18,425 --> 00:10:19,925 So it's an advanced CPR. 270 00:10:20,305 --> 00:10:22,645 Uh, they talk about tourniquets, how to stop the bleed, 271 00:10:22,965 --> 00:10:25,605 pressure points, uh, how to dress wounds, things like that. 272 00:10:25,665 --> 00:10:28,325 So we're just getting up a step one up above 273 00:10:28,325 --> 00:10:31,245 because a lot of first responders, that's huge things 274 00:10:31,245 --> 00:10:33,605 that they're running into is, you know, next level care 275 00:10:33,605 --> 00:10:35,125 before we can go ahead and send them off. 276 00:10:35,355 --> 00:10:38,205 They're also working into disaster training. 277 00:10:38,665 --> 00:10:39,925 Uh, we work with fema. 278 00:10:39,925 --> 00:10:41,445 We get the FEMA 100, 200 279 00:10:41,585 --> 00:10:43,645 and 700 all incident command things. 280 00:10:44,225 --> 00:10:46,445 Uh, so it's a bunch of courses offered 281 00:10:46,445 --> 00:10:48,045 that they walk away in certificates, 282 00:10:48,045 --> 00:10:50,845 that they actually get a go and have tangible items, stuff 283 00:10:50,845 --> 00:10:53,645 to put on their resumes and actually, uh, get a job 284 00:10:53,745 --> 00:10:55,285 or open up the door to that. 285 00:10:55,705 --> 00:10:59,085 Uh, we partner with a lot of ep uh, executive protection. 286 00:10:59,385 --> 00:11:01,445 Uh, I got a couple job opportunities for students 287 00:11:01,445 --> 00:11:04,245 to go ahead and apply and work basic security 288 00:11:04,345 --> 00:11:05,725 at companies and things like that. 289 00:11:05,865 --> 00:11:08,125 So they're allowed to go ahead and transition into it. 290 00:11:08,145 --> 00:11:09,645 And that's ultimately what we're trying 291 00:11:09,645 --> 00:11:12,325 to do is find these high paying jobs for these students 292 00:11:12,425 --> 00:11:15,325 to slide in, get, get the foot into the door, 293 00:11:15,385 --> 00:11:17,285 what's the next step for the next plan. 294 00:11:17,345 --> 00:11:19,805 - That's fantastic. So students graduate high school 295 00:11:19,865 --> 00:11:22,045 and you've already helped 'em find a job. That's 296 00:11:22,045 --> 00:11:23,045 - The ultimate goal. 297 00:11:23,045 --> 00:11:24,125 We build resumes here. 298 00:11:24,145 --> 00:11:27,085 We practice interviewing, uh, we do cover letters. 299 00:11:27,265 --> 00:11:29,245 We talk about the whole application process 300 00:11:29,505 --> 00:11:30,845 of getting hired in a job. 301 00:11:31,145 --> 00:11:34,165 What's it look like? What does it entail? The interview? 302 00:11:34,675 --> 00:11:36,405 It's, it's several different steps 303 00:11:36,585 --> 00:11:39,205 and uh, when I applied when I first did, nobody was there 304 00:11:39,205 --> 00:11:40,245 to gimme this information. 305 00:11:40,345 --> 00:11:42,965 So to have this platform to do that, 306 00:11:43,305 --> 00:11:45,005 it really gives these students the leg up. 307 00:11:45,105 --> 00:11:47,005 Now I know that they're not all gonna be cops. 308 00:11:47,405 --> 00:11:50,165 I totally get that. I know they're not all gonna be lawyers. 309 00:11:50,405 --> 00:11:52,605 I know they're not all gonna even tr jump into the 310 00:11:52,765 --> 00:11:53,885 criminal justice career field. 311 00:11:53,885 --> 00:11:56,805 That's totally cool. But the cool opportunity here is 312 00:11:56,805 --> 00:11:59,285 that we open the door for so many different jobs 313 00:11:59,425 --> 00:12:01,005 and so many different opportunities. 314 00:12:01,315 --> 00:12:03,365 There's tons of support staff that we're looking 315 00:12:03,365 --> 00:12:05,285 to fill these positions for, right? 316 00:12:05,375 --> 00:12:07,765 We've got an evidence clerk, we've got records department, 317 00:12:07,935 --> 00:12:09,805 we've gotta pay these cops, right? 318 00:12:09,945 --> 00:12:11,245 So there's an accounting office 319 00:12:11,315 --> 00:12:12,805 that definitely has to do that. 320 00:12:13,185 --> 00:12:15,405 So there's these other jobs that we're trying to highlight 321 00:12:15,405 --> 00:12:17,685 and to bring, uh, shine the light on 322 00:12:17,685 --> 00:12:20,005 so these students can learn about it and apply for it. 323 00:12:20,035 --> 00:12:21,845 Emergency management, I keep bringing it up, 324 00:12:21,845 --> 00:12:24,845 but those are several positions right here that we can have. 325 00:12:24,845 --> 00:12:26,645 These students, as soon as they're 18 years old, 326 00:12:26,645 --> 00:12:29,445 they're sliding into and getting full paid jobs. 327 00:12:29,715 --> 00:12:33,245 Paid 27 an hour, getting full benefits South Sound 9 1 1. 328 00:12:33,245 --> 00:12:34,325 It's a dispatch company. 329 00:12:34,675 --> 00:12:36,845 It's for the whole district over here, 330 00:12:36,985 --> 00:12:38,085 uh, on the west coast. 331 00:12:38,715 --> 00:12:42,405 They offer volunteer opportunities, internships, shadows, 332 00:12:42,515 --> 00:12:44,405 they have records department, we have a dispatch 333 00:12:44,405 --> 00:12:45,565 and then a phone call taker. 334 00:12:45,625 --> 00:12:48,925 And these are all skill sets that they get from industry. 335 00:12:49,485 --> 00:12:51,405 I turn around and implement it in my classroom 336 00:12:51,785 --> 00:12:54,525 and now I have these students lined up for success for that. 337 00:12:54,835 --> 00:12:57,125 - It's all about piling that experience on building 338 00:12:57,125 --> 00:12:59,645 that resume and moving, always moving forward. 339 00:13:00,125 --> 00:13:02,085 I think that's just great advice for anybody, 340 00:13:02,095 --> 00:13:03,485 especially high school students. 341 00:13:04,305 --> 00:13:07,405 Braden, I kinda skipped over something in this room. 342 00:13:07,845 --> 00:13:10,085 I got distracted by the body that's right behind you, 343 00:13:10,105 --> 00:13:11,165 but, uh, you and I were talking 344 00:13:11,165 --> 00:13:12,685 before we started recording about 345 00:13:12,685 --> 00:13:14,845 the weight benches over here. Yes. Let's talk about 346 00:13:14,845 --> 00:13:15,845 - That. 347 00:13:15,845 --> 00:13:17,245 Yeah, so one of the courses, uh, 348 00:13:17,265 --> 00:13:20,045 for high school credits we receive is actually a PE credit. 349 00:13:20,505 --> 00:13:23,205 And the how we fulfill that is Monday, Wednesday 350 00:13:23,205 --> 00:13:26,205 and Friday we work out, uh, Monday and Wednesday. 351 00:13:26,355 --> 00:13:29,685 It's more of like physical workouts, like pushups, sit ups, 352 00:13:29,915 --> 00:13:31,245 weights, that type of deal. 353 00:13:31,665 --> 00:13:33,685 And then usually on Fridays we'd 354 00:13:33,685 --> 00:13:34,765 call it basically a fun Friday. 355 00:13:34,835 --> 00:13:36,965 It's the day before the weekend, so why not and go out 356 00:13:36,965 --> 00:13:40,645 and do like volleyball, football, that type of deal. 357 00:13:40,645 --> 00:13:42,125 We work heavily with, uh, one 358 00:13:42,125 --> 00:13:43,805 of our other programs here, pre pt. 359 00:13:44,105 --> 00:13:45,925 - That's a pre-physical therapy. Correct. 360 00:13:46,025 --> 00:13:48,325 - Uh, so either us going over 361 00:13:48,345 --> 00:13:53,205 and they need someone to try taping our ankles for practice. 362 00:13:53,595 --> 00:13:57,485 It's a great partnership just within our school as well 363 00:13:57,785 --> 00:13:59,205 as on top of the ones that we received 364 00:13:59,205 --> 00:14:02,805 through like South sign 9 1 1 and industry standards. Yeah, 365 00:14:02,925 --> 00:14:03,925 - I love that. 366 00:14:03,925 --> 00:14:05,645 And just builds camaraderie among the whole school. Yeah. 367 00:14:05,645 --> 00:14:06,765 Let alone just the, just the 368 00:14:06,765 --> 00:14:09,085 - Camaraderie along among the school as well as a little bit 369 00:14:09,085 --> 00:14:10,365 of playful, joking, 370 00:14:11,045 --> 00:14:12,045 - . 371 00:14:12,045 --> 00:14:13,765 That's always good for camaraderie. Yeah, 372 00:14:14,245 --> 00:14:15,245 - . 373 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:16,445 Especially between the AM and PM sessions, 374 00:14:16,975 --> 00:14:18,525 - Which we have represented at the table. 375 00:14:18,625 --> 00:14:20,765 And I'll just say here at the Pierce County Skills Center, 376 00:14:20,765 --> 00:14:23,045 there is an AM class and a PM class. 377 00:14:23,425 --> 00:14:25,845 You spend half the day at your home high school 378 00:14:25,945 --> 00:14:28,885 and then half the day here Carter Senior getting ready 379 00:14:28,885 --> 00:14:31,485 to graduate criminal justice. Is this your future? 380 00:14:32,465 --> 00:14:36,605 - Um, I hope so. I plan on within the next 10 years becoming 381 00:14:36,845 --> 00:14:37,965 a forensic scientist. 382 00:14:38,465 --> 00:14:41,565 - Wow. Fantastic. So what's the next step for that? 383 00:14:41,685 --> 00:14:44,165 I don't know if you know of maybe, uh, Mr. Vick knows 384 00:14:44,645 --> 00:14:46,925 - I am attending central Washington in the fall. 385 00:14:47,285 --> 00:14:50,485 Excellent. For biochemistry to hopefully get that 386 00:14:51,225 --> 00:14:53,885 to touch bases and move forward through that. 387 00:14:54,355 --> 00:14:56,565 - Fantastic. - Once my four years are done, 388 00:14:57,025 --> 00:14:59,485 I'm gonna go out, use my skills, apply, 389 00:15:00,105 --> 00:15:01,845 use my certifications that I've learned here. 390 00:15:02,365 --> 00:15:05,125 - I love that. And I should have known a senior at this 391 00:15:05,125 --> 00:15:06,245 point in the school year, would know 392 00:15:06,335 --> 00:15:07,365 where he is headed this fall. 393 00:15:07,425 --> 00:15:09,645 So good luck to you. That's fantastic. 394 00:15:09,825 --> 00:15:13,165 Braden, you're a junior, you'll be here next year I would 395 00:15:13,165 --> 00:15:14,165 - Assume. Next year. Hopefully. 396 00:15:14,165 --> 00:15:16,405 - Hopefully here. Um, still in criminal justice, 397 00:15:16,745 --> 00:15:17,745 - Uh, no. 398 00:15:17,745 --> 00:15:19,685 So my end goal is to be a fire investigator 399 00:15:19,905 --> 00:15:22,005 or fire marshal depending on where you go. 400 00:15:22,145 --> 00:15:23,645 In fact, they're under the umbrella 401 00:15:23,665 --> 00:15:25,885 of Pierce County Emergency Management here in Pierce County 402 00:15:26,665 --> 00:15:29,405 and they actually acquire, uh, two to five years 403 00:15:29,745 --> 00:15:31,765 of fire service experience. 404 00:15:32,785 --> 00:15:34,605 Uh, just to my knowledge, it's just 405 00:15:34,605 --> 00:15:36,045 so you know your way around the fire ground. 406 00:15:36,145 --> 00:15:39,085 So me personally, I would say having a background in 407 00:15:39,405 --> 00:15:41,485 investigation and forensics would be a lot better 408 00:15:41,545 --> 00:15:44,085 to help you try and understand what they do here, 409 00:15:44,085 --> 00:15:45,965 which is why I'm taking this class this year. 410 00:15:46,305 --> 00:15:48,485 - I'm no expert. That sounds like a fantastic idea, 411 00:15:48,895 --> 00:15:50,005 Mikey. What says you? 412 00:15:50,425 --> 00:15:52,525 - Yes, of course. That's always opening us like another 413 00:15:52,525 --> 00:15:53,565 door like we talked about. 414 00:15:53,945 --> 00:15:56,765 So, uh, you know, what separates him from everybody else. 415 00:15:56,825 --> 00:15:58,765 So having this background in the investigations 416 00:15:58,765 --> 00:16:01,285 and know how to process a crime scene will definitely help 417 00:16:01,285 --> 00:16:02,485 him be in a fire investigator. 418 00:16:02,835 --> 00:16:04,205 - Well finally we started 419 00:16:04,205 --> 00:16:06,565 with a fun question we always do here on the show. 420 00:16:06,825 --> 00:16:09,045 And actually Braden, you mentioned, uh, one 421 00:16:09,045 --> 00:16:10,725 of our Star Wars intros that you really liked 422 00:16:11,005 --> 00:16:12,005 - . 423 00:16:12,005 --> 00:16:13,965 Yeah, I, uh, I, IV taught us to do our research. 424 00:16:14,165 --> 00:16:15,165 I went back and started listening 425 00:16:15,165 --> 00:16:16,125 to some of their older podcasts. 426 00:16:16,145 --> 00:16:17,685 Oh man, I love that Star Wars intro, 427 00:16:17,685 --> 00:16:18,685 especially the clinging on part. 428 00:16:19,085 --> 00:16:20,085 . 429 00:16:20,685 --> 00:16:22,005 - I love that you went back and listened to it. 430 00:16:22,045 --> 00:16:23,685 I haven't gone back to listen to those early episodes. 431 00:16:23,845 --> 00:16:24,845 - I got bored. - . 432 00:16:25,635 --> 00:16:28,205 Well that'll do well here is your fun question of the day. 433 00:16:28,865 --> 00:16:30,765 If you could go back in time 434 00:16:31,225 --> 00:16:33,885 and witness any event in history, in person, 435 00:16:33,985 --> 00:16:36,005 you can't get hurt, you can't change the event 436 00:16:36,025 --> 00:16:37,325 or warn anybody, it's gonna happen. 437 00:16:37,325 --> 00:16:39,525 You just watch it as if you were a ghost. 438 00:16:39,955 --> 00:16:41,245 What would it be and why? 439 00:16:41,305 --> 00:16:42,885 Braden, I wanna hold you to the end 440 00:16:42,885 --> 00:16:44,125 because you said you're a history buff 441 00:16:44,125 --> 00:16:47,045 and I feel like your answer's gonna be very interesting. 442 00:16:47,265 --> 00:16:48,365 So Mikey, you go first. 443 00:16:48,705 --> 00:16:51,885 - Um, I'm gonna go back to a time when I was elk hunting. 444 00:16:53,075 --> 00:16:54,485 - Okay. A personal history. I love 445 00:16:54,485 --> 00:16:55,485 - This. 446 00:16:55,485 --> 00:16:56,365 Yeah. Uh, I was in the woods 447 00:16:56,785 --> 00:16:59,205 and, uh, first bull elk that had came back. 448 00:16:59,785 --> 00:17:01,725 He bugled came outta the mountains, 449 00:17:01,895 --> 00:17:03,645 raked the ground, bugled one more time. 450 00:17:04,445 --> 00:17:07,485 I wasn't educated enough, I would say, uh, 451 00:17:07,625 --> 00:17:09,965 or confident enough to go ahead and stalk him. 452 00:17:10,025 --> 00:17:11,205 So I kind of stayed back. 453 00:17:11,365 --> 00:17:14,365 I was using a muzzle loader, so I was about over 200 yards. 454 00:17:14,765 --> 00:17:16,365 I should have moved up when he called the first time 455 00:17:16,365 --> 00:17:18,925 and then I probably would've had a kill, but I didn't. 456 00:17:19,065 --> 00:17:21,925 So I definitely want to go back and relive that again and, 457 00:17:22,025 --> 00:17:24,205 - And watch you not because remember you can't Yeah. 458 00:17:24,205 --> 00:17:25,445 - Change - It. I mean, you're just gonna 459 00:17:25,445 --> 00:17:26,485 watch it again and be depressed again 460 00:17:26,515 --> 00:17:28,885 - Just to even watch that again, ultimately Right. 461 00:17:29,245 --> 00:17:30,965 . But just to be able to watch 462 00:17:30,985 --> 00:17:32,445 and go through those emotions again. 463 00:17:32,565 --> 00:17:36,205 I mean, it was just one of the most, uh, impactful moments 464 00:17:36,425 --> 00:17:37,605 and I really love hunting 465 00:17:37,785 --> 00:17:39,365 and fishing, so definitely 466 00:17:39,365 --> 00:17:40,605 pushed me towards it more. So. Yeah. 467 00:17:40,605 --> 00:17:42,525 - That's fantastic. What a great answer. I love that. 468 00:17:42,525 --> 00:17:44,445 Thanks for sharing that. Yes. Carter, how about you? 469 00:17:45,485 --> 00:17:47,805 - I would say for me, it, it's a little bit controversial, 470 00:17:48,105 --> 00:17:51,165 but I would say like the whole, the whole case 471 00:17:51,265 --> 00:17:52,325 of OJ Simpson. 472 00:17:53,285 --> 00:17:55,405 'cause I know that dragged on for quite a few years 473 00:17:55,465 --> 00:17:56,485 and even did today. 474 00:17:56,995 --> 00:17:59,805 Even going back to jail like two or three times after that. 475 00:18:00,545 --> 00:18:03,205 But that is something that does bring curiosity to me. 476 00:18:03,555 --> 00:18:04,885 - Yeah. And there's, there's even a, 477 00:18:04,955 --> 00:18:07,445 there's a documentary series on Netflix 478 00:18:07,625 --> 00:18:09,365 or one of the streaming services now about it. 479 00:18:09,705 --> 00:18:11,685 Braden, we're over to you for the last question. 480 00:18:11,745 --> 00:18:12,925 If you could go back in time, 481 00:18:12,925 --> 00:18:15,205 witness any event in history, what would it be? 482 00:18:15,705 --> 00:18:18,085 - So honestly, when you said that kind of long answer, 483 00:18:18,285 --> 00:18:20,125 'cause I know you're a history buff, I kind of chuckled 484 00:18:20,245 --> 00:18:22,765 'cause uh, I only wrote down one thing D-Day period. 485 00:18:23,685 --> 00:18:25,285 I don't need any more than that. Just D-Day. 486 00:18:25,745 --> 00:18:26,805 - Wow. Okay. 487 00:18:26,805 --> 00:18:28,405 So what vantage point would you, would you take? 488 00:18:28,405 --> 00:18:30,325 Would you be on one of the boats coming in? Um, 489 00:18:30,585 --> 00:18:33,165 - I'd probably either go, uh, from the perspective 490 00:18:33,185 --> 00:18:35,885 of the Texas, the Battleship USS Texas only. 491 00:18:36,045 --> 00:18:39,005 'cause basically they just flooded all the tanks on one side 492 00:18:39,005 --> 00:18:41,125 of the ship so they could tilt the ship over 493 00:18:41,185 --> 00:18:44,005 to shoot their shells farther inland. 494 00:18:44,685 --> 00:18:47,285 - Interesting - That or 0.2 hawk, uh, 495 00:18:47,285 --> 00:18:51,085 where the rangers actually had to scale the cliffs using 496 00:18:52,015 --> 00:18:53,205 ropes, rope ladders, 497 00:18:53,205 --> 00:18:55,805 and just a couple bits of sticks on a tied to a rope. 498 00:18:56,305 --> 00:18:58,605 Uh, it was actually mostly famous, not only 499 00:18:58,605 --> 00:19:01,805 because it was the bridge point between uh, Utah 500 00:19:01,805 --> 00:19:02,885 and Omaha Beach, but 501 00:19:02,885 --> 00:19:04,565 because it was the first time the 502 00:19:05,115 --> 00:19:08,125 Rangers were actually used in a naval invasion the most, 503 00:19:08,265 --> 00:19:10,205 the previous time they were shipped in 504 00:19:10,225 --> 00:19:12,565 behind friendly lines, uh, in North Africa. 505 00:19:12,795 --> 00:19:14,405 - Fantastic answers everybody. 506 00:19:14,495 --> 00:19:17,565 Thank you all for joining us Braden from Sumner High School, 507 00:19:17,785 --> 00:19:19,125 Carter from Graham Capal 508 00:19:19,225 --> 00:19:22,365 and Mikey Vick from right here at the Pierce County Skills 509 00:19:22,365 --> 00:19:23,685 Center, second year as instructor. 510 00:19:23,705 --> 00:19:25,245 And we hope to have you on for many more. 511 00:19:25,465 --> 00:19:27,325 Thanks everybody for joining us. Thanks. Of course. 512 00:19:27,325 --> 00:19:28,405 - Thank you - Having us. Thanks for having us. 513 00:19:31,415 --> 00:19:32,485 - Great interview Doug. 514 00:19:32,595 --> 00:19:34,165 Love hearing about that amazing program 515 00:19:34,385 --> 00:19:37,485 and some pretty weird answers to our question this week. 516 00:19:37,645 --> 00:19:40,325 I gotta save, but good for them. But that brings us to you. 517 00:19:40,425 --> 00:19:42,765 You're the one who hasn't answered the question yet. 518 00:19:42,765 --> 00:19:44,765 So Doug, where are you going back in time 519 00:19:45,025 --> 00:19:48,445 to observe like a silent but deadly ghost 520 00:19:48,965 --> 00:19:49,965 - ? 521 00:19:50,955 --> 00:19:52,405 Well, because we are on a podcast 522 00:19:52,595 --> 00:19:53,805 here, I'm thinking about audio. 523 00:19:53,985 --> 00:19:57,325 I'm thinking about January 7th, 1927, the first 524 00:19:57,835 --> 00:19:59,685 transatlantic telephone call. 525 00:19:59,705 --> 00:20:02,685 And I'd like a little leeway to stay the day prior 526 00:20:02,705 --> 00:20:03,805 to this event as well, 527 00:20:03,805 --> 00:20:06,125 because the formal ceremony happened on the seventh 528 00:20:06,125 --> 00:20:07,925 with the president of at and t 529 00:20:07,985 --> 00:20:10,765 and the head of the British General Post Office. 530 00:20:11,065 --> 00:20:12,165 But Connor was the night 531 00:20:12,165 --> 00:20:13,765 before, I think was the really fun time 532 00:20:13,765 --> 00:20:17,085 because they did a test the night before January 7th. 533 00:20:17,585 --> 00:20:21,685 And two unidentified voices crystal clear, one 534 00:20:21,685 --> 00:20:24,045 with an American accent, one with a British accent. 535 00:20:24,425 --> 00:20:27,685 Had a little chat. The first five words spoken on a 536 00:20:27,685 --> 00:20:30,125 transatlantic telephone call. Can you hear me now? 537 00:20:30,345 --> 00:20:32,165 - Ground control to major tone. No, 538 00:20:32,305 --> 00:20:33,305 - No. 539 00:20:33,305 --> 00:20:33,805 Can you hear me now? Oh, 540 00:20:34,165 --> 00:20:35,605 - I thought you were just asking. Yes, I can 541 00:20:35,965 --> 00:20:38,845 - that's gonna do it for this week's show. 542 00:20:39,135 --> 00:20:40,285 We'll see you next week. Everybody. 543 00:20:47,145 --> 00:20:50,605 - Is that Mr. G? Oh, good morning, sir. Evelyn, is that Mr. 544 00:20:50,845 --> 00:20:52,565 Ard? Yes, this is Mr. Gifford, sir Evelyn. 545 00:20:53,255 --> 00:20:55,965 Today as a result of very many years of research 546 00:20:56,025 --> 00:21:00,285 and experimentation, we open the telephonic channel 547 00:21:00,305 --> 00:21:01,965 of speech between New York and London. 548 00:21:03,555 --> 00:21:06,485 Thus, the people of these two great cities will be brought 549 00:21:06,485 --> 00:21:07,765 within speaking distance. 550 00:21:09,425 --> 00:21:11,845 No one can foresee the ultimate significance 551 00:21:11,945 --> 00:21:14,885 of this latest achievement of science and organization.